The rules are vague on the SS check? Really?
When operating as an individual, it should be the year YOU were first licensed.
Even if you are "borrowing" someone's shack.
If it is a multi-single effort, it should be the year that the HOST was first
licensed. In the case of a club station, that would be the year that the CLUB
was first licensed.
Nothing vague about that.
OK, so the rules may not have been written with iron-clad legal-type precision
years ago. We could always hire attorneys to scrutinize the rules to make them
so precise that their ought to be no ambiguity... of course there always will
be, in the minds of some, but that's beside the point... but then, who would
read 150 pages of rules in legalese? Plain English ought to be more than
adequate.
IMHO there is no ambiguity. The intent of the rules is clear.
73, ron W3WN
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net>
To: Michael Clarson <wv2zow@gmail.com>
Cc: James Cain <jamesdavidcain@gmail.com>; CQ contest reflector
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 20, 2017 11:58 am
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] "It's just to save on typing"
The difficulty with being obstinate about following rules to the letter is
situations vary and rules are often vague. The check is certainly in that
category.If you are a guest op, is it YOUR year of first licence or your
host’s? If you’re using his callsign, using your check muddles matters. If it’s
a multiop, whose check? If you were to follow the rules to the letter, you
might have each op giving out his own check (it’s not exactly clear when all it
says is “the year you were first licensed.”)Further: the rules also state quite
clearly “the decisions of the ARRL are final.” The ARRL has decided it will not
enforce checks (pretty hard to do, anyway). (Which is not the same as saying
you get away with miscopying a check, merely the League will take no steps to
determine if VE4XT really was first licensed in 1982. (I was.))So, if you’re
obstinate about following rules and the rules say the ARRL decisions are final,
then you must accept there is some deliberate vagueness to the rule and stop
worrying about it.73, kelly, ve4xt > On Oct 20, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Michael
Clarson <wv2zow@gmail.com> wrote:> > Have to agree with James. Rules pretty
clear on what the exchange is.> Check is"year first licensed", not some two
digit number I made up to> change things up. --Mike, WV2ZOW> > On Fri, Oct 20,
2017 at 8:23 AM, <jamesdavidcain@gmail.com> wrote:>> Lessee, now. This
discussion began concerning the ARRL Sweepstakes>> contest(s).>> >> Seems to me
that a legitimate entry must follow the rules for the exchange,>> and those
rules are specific. I don't see where any of the exchange elements>> can be
fudged, or "negotiated.">> >> If you don't plan to submit your SS log you can
fudge anything you want -->> except your call sign. But that's not playing
fair.>> >> K1TN>> >> >> 4.1. A consecutive serial number;>> >> 4.2.
Precedence;>> >> 4.2.1. "Q" for Single Op QRP (5 Watts output or less);>> >>
4.2.2. "A" for Single Op Low Power (up to 150 W output);>> >> 4.2.3. "B" for
Single Op High Power (greater than 150 W output);>> >> 4.2.4. "U" for Single Op
Unlimited Single-Op Unlimited High Power and>> Single-Op Unlimited Low Power
both send "U")>> >> 4.2.5. "M" for Multi-Op (Multiop High Power and Multiop Low
Power both send>> "M")>> >> 4.2.6. "S" for School Club;>> >> 4.3. Your Callsign
(remember that you must include your call sign during the>> exchange)>> >> 4.4.
Check>> >> 4.4.1. The last 2 digits of the year of first license for either
the>> operator or the station.>> >> 4.4.2. An entry must send the same Check
throughout the entire contest.>> >> 4.5. ARRL/RAC Section (click here for the
official list>> <http://www.arrl.org/contest-sections-list> )>> >> >> >>
----------->> >> I've been meaning to change things up anyway, just to keep
them on their>> toes.>> >> 73>> Ria, N2RJ>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:31 PM Art
Boyars <artboyars@gmail.com> wrote:>> >>> When I saw the post about Call
History Files for SS, and then saw the post>>> for the site where you can get
them, I was tempted to put in some bogus>>> data -- change CK 60 to CK 69;
change name Art to name Ari. But I'm not>>> quite that cranky. Yet.>>> >>>
73, Art K3KU>>> >>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 12:48 AM, Radio K0HB
<kzerohb@gmail.com> wrote:>>> >>>> Where possible, I routinely "update" my
exchange from the last contest,>>>> just to confound those who use "pre-loaded"
data file crutches.>>>> >>>> 73, de Hans, K0HB>>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original
Message----- From: Art Boyars>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:01 PM>>>>
To: CQ-Contest Reflector>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] "It's just to save on
typing">>>> >>>> E-mail chatting with N4ZR, who has relocated from WV to MD.
Pete muses>>>> that a lot of people who rely on SCP or Call History (or
whatever it is)>>>> "to save on typing" will bust the QSO by logging him as
WV.>>>> >>>> I can see it now -- a cry for making the data files official;
perhaps>>>> prohibiting people from relocating or using a different name.>>>>
>>>> "All participants must register in the official Call History File.
Your>>>> log must contain the data as reported in that File. Scoring will be
in>>>> accordance with that File.">>>> >>>> Just think of all the typing we'll
save!>>>> >>>> 73, Art K3KU>>>> who hopes you took this in fun (sort of)>>>>
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