Yuri,
Now you are twisting my words to try and make an unrelated point.
"Discrepancies" in context only referred to differences between the rules of
one given contest or event to another.
I am not in any way condoning the hypothetical situation you site, which has
nothing to do with my comments nor is anything that I even implicitly stated.
My point was and is simple. Rules between events may not or are not going to
be equal. Nothing more.
And that is the last that I'm going to say on the subject.
73, ron w3wn
-----Original Message-----
From: Yuri <ve3dz@rigexpert.net>
To: 'Ron Notarius W3WN' <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Cc: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 5, 2020 7:39 am
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ 160m contest-vs-DXCC rule problem
>Regardless, the rules of the contest prevail for the purposes of the contest.
>The rules of DXCC prevail for the purposes of the award. And for that matter,
>the >rules of WAE, WAZ, WPX, USA-CA, WAS, WAC, etc etc etc, prevail for the
>purposes of those awards as well. There will always be some discrepancies,
>because >the purposes are not the same. Even if there is some overlap.
>73, ron w3wn
Oh, so discrepancies are allowed sometimes? When? And what kind?
If someone participates in Contest where High Power limit is 1500 km, but in
order to work a new country for DXCC award (which by coincidence appears to be
a multiplier in this Contest), he increases his power to 2000 watts (which is
O.K. for his license) – would that count as a discrepancy? Overlap? Or rule
violation?
73, Yuri VE3DZ
From: Ron Notarius W3WN [mailto:wn3vaw@verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 11:55 AM
To: ve3dz@rigexpert.net
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ 160m contest-vs-DXCC rule problem
Ah, but there's the rub, Yuri.
Multipliers in SOME contests are based on DXCC entities. But not all.
Mults can be based on DXCC entity. Or WAE entity. Or CQ Zone. Or ITU Zone.
Or Maidenhead Gridsquare. Or State/Province/Regional designation. Or County
(Parish) or similar local political designation. Or ZIP code (or equivalent
postal code). Or given first name. Or Brand & Model of the
transmitter/transceiver in use, or at least it's date of manufacture or sale.
So while it may POSSIBLE -- although not desirable -- to have the rules in
sync, it is not always so. Even if it is possible, there are clearly many
extenuating circumstances when it is not desirable.
And I'm not sure I would know what a "real" contester is. What would an
"unreal" one be? (Never mind, I can think of a few.)
Regardless, the rules of the contest prevail for the purposes of the contest.
The rules of DXCC prevail for the purposes of the award. And for that matter,
the rules of WAE, WAZ, WPX, USA-CA, WAS, WAC, etc etc etc, prevail for the
purposes of those awards as well. There will always be some discrepancies,
because the purposes are not the same. Even if there is some overlap.
73, ron w3wn
-----Original Message-----
From: Yuri <ve3dz@rigexpert.net <mailto:ve3dz@rigexpert.net> >
To: 'Ron Notarius W3WN' <wn3vaw@verizon.net <mailto:wn3vaw@verizon.net> >
Cc: 'CQ-Contest Reflector' <cq-contest@contesting.com
<mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com> >
Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2020 9:02 am
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] CQ 160m contest-vs-DXCC rule problem
" Why should they be?" - Because multipliers in the contests like CQ WW and
ARRL are based on DXCC. And a lot of people participate in these contests just
to collect more countries for this prestigious award. So, why the rules should
be different? How then CQ would recognize which QSO was "right" and which was
"wrong"?
Same way as how ARRL nowadays recognizes "automated" FT8 QSO's? :-)
However, "real contesters", i.e. those who participate not "just for fun" but
in order to achieve better score or to win a contest - they wouldn't really
care IMO.
Yuri VE3DZ
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