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RE: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM 2.5 cards do not report signal or noise w/TC.

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Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM 2.5 cards do not report signal or noise w/TC...
From: "Tony " <tonylist@wwwbiz.com>
Reply-to: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 13:52:19 -0400
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Norm

The problems goes all the way back to Intersil on this one as they are
the one developing the firmware. We are doing EVERYTHING in out power to
add this functionality but WISP are a small spec on there radar, they
are moving very slow on this.

>From what Doug wrote on his last email even they are seeing the same
issues.

Sincerely
Tony Morella
Demarc Technology Group
Office: 908-996-7995
Cell: 908-246-9170
Fax: 908-847-0202
email: tony@demarctech.com
http://www.demarctech.com
Wireless Solution Provider


-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
On Behalf Of Norm Young
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 1:03 PM
To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM 2.5 cards do not report signal or
noise w/TC...


Tony, you need to put pressure on the manufacturer of the PRISM 2.5
cards to get the firmware problem with TC corrected.  If you don't then
both Dan and I are holding some fairly crippled hardware we bought from
you in good
faith.   This is a serious issue both for Dan, I and your reputation.
You
need to clear this problem forthwith.

Just my opinion,

Norm


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony " <tonylist@wwwbiz.com>
To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM 2.5 cards do not report signal or
noise w/TC...


> Norm
>
> The noise readings are a firmware issue on the Prism as it does not 
> report this info to KN.  What are the test you have run checking the 
> signal levels? Replacing an Orinoco with a Prism on the Client side 
> the rx signal level should not change very much.
>
> FYI the Mikrotik are 200mW cards, technically there is no such thing 
> as a 250mW card its marketing.  We work with the manufactures that 
> both TT and Mikrotik are dealing with and they have confirmed this!
>
> Sincerely
> Tony Morella
> Demarc Technology Group
> Office: 908-996-7995
> Cell: 908-246-9170
> Fax: 908-847-0202
> email: tony@demarctech.com
> http://www.demarctech.com
> Wireless Solution Provider
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> On Behalf Of Norm Young
> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 8:48 AM
> To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> Cc: support@karlnet.com
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM 2.5 cards do not report signal or 
> noise w/TC...
>
>
> Ok, but with one clarification, _both_ signal and noise are not 
> reported correctly.  It would be very nice if TC could read the card, 
> or a firmware fix could make it so.  Do you know the status of other 
> PRISM 2.5 card as to
> this reporting problem, ie; the Mikrotik 250mW cards?   Do they report
> the
> signal/noise levels correctly to TC?   If so, then it's a matter of
> getting
> the card manufacturer's firmware to adhere to this standard.   I
wonder
> if
> Doug could chime in here to confirm that this is a firmware problem 
> with the
> card?   Does Karlnet have a fix for this card?
>
> Norm
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony " <tonylist@wwwbiz.com>
> To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 9:24 PM
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM card do not report signal or noise

> w/TC...
>
>
> > Norm
> >
> > This is correct, I believe Doug posted this is other day.  TC does 
> > not
>
> > report noise level as the firmware on all Prism cards do not report 
> > it
>
> > yet.  From what I have been told the card can do it if the firmware 
> > is
>
> > change seems like a simple request, still looking into this.
> >
> > In the mean time we put in a request to grey out the s/n and noise 
> > readings as not to confuse things.
> >
> > Sincerely
> > Tony Morella
> > Demarc Technology Group
> > Office: 908-996-7995
> > Cell: 908-246-9170
> > Fax: 908-847-0202
> > email: tony@demarctech.com
> > http://www.demarctech.com
> > Wireless Solution Provider
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com 
> > [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Norm Young
> > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 11:45 PM
> > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > Subject: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM card do not report signal or noise
> > w/TC...
> >
> >
> > Tony, I tried your 100mW PRISM 2.5 cards in TC 
> > v4.02/AP-1000/SA-4400, and while the signal gains at the CPE's were 
> > impressive (7-8dB reported from the CPE Orinoco radio on average), 
> > the reporting from the PRISM 2.5 card was, well, non-existent.  All 
> > of my CPEs are reported to have a S/N of 1, signal -94, noise, -95.

> > Obviously bogus,
>
> > obviously not reported correctly by the card, or correctly 
> > interpreted
>
> > by Karlnet TC.
> >
> > Norm
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tony " <tonylist@wwwbiz.com>
> > To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 8:38 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] AP1000 with non-lucent cards
> >
> >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > This is correct at this time, I have not received a update on 
> > > whether or not SEC will be supported on the Prism chip.  Doug any 
> > > comments on this??
> > >
> > > Sincerely
> > > Tony Morella
> > > Demarc Technology Group
> > > Office: 908-996-7995
> > > Cell: 908-246-9170
> > > Fax: 908-847-0202
> > > email: tony@demarctech.com
> > > http://www.demarctech.com
> > > Wireless Solution Provider
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com 
> > > [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > > On Behalf Of Larry Yunker
> > > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:24 PM
> > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] AP1000 with non-lucent cards
> > >
> > >
> > > So you are stating that you can't even run 100mw cards in SEC mode

> > > in a PC running a karlnet flash-rom kit?  This sounds worse than I

> > > had thought.  I was really hoping to stay with Karlnet for it's 
> > > nice
>
> > > client signal monitoring capability.  But I really need to get 
> > > cards
>
> > > with more juice than 35mw and I really DON'T want to resort to 
> > > AMPs.
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > > From: "Tony " <tonylist@wwwbiz.com>
> > > Reply-To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:06:08 -0400
> > >
> > > >Larry
> > > >
> > > >Your request is for SEC which is not an option under the prism 
> > > >cards,
> >
> > > >SEC only works for Orinoco cards.
> > > >
> > > >Sincerely
> > > >Tony Morella
> > > >Demarc Technology Group
> > > >Office: 908-996-7995
> > > >Cell: 908-246-9170
> > > >Fax: 908-847-0202
> > > >email: tony@demarctech.com
> > > >http://www.demarctech.com
> > > >Wireless Solution Provider
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com 
> > > >[mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > > >On Behalf Of Larry Yunker
> > > >Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 4:33 PM
> > > >To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > >Subject: RE: [Karlnet] AP1000 with non-lucent cards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Hmm... I could have sworn that there were a few guys that had the

> > > >AP-1000's running in Turbocell mode with the prism cards.
> > > >
> > > >Here is what I need:
> > > >
> > > >Some sort of hardware suitable for tower mounting (lightweight, 
> > > >weather
> > >
> > > >resistant, Power-over-ethernet, etc, etc)
> > > >
> > > >Karlnet SEC BASE
> > > >three 100mw Cards (to run 3 sector antennas)
> > > >one standard 35mw Lucent Silver/Gold Card (to run backhaul to NOC

> > > >cross-polarized and 25ft vertical separation from the sectors)
> > > >
> > > >Does anyone market a 4-PCMCIA-slot SBC's with Karlnet firmware?  
> > > >Or
>
> > > >maybe I'll just need to get two 2-PCMCIA slot SBC's with Karlnet.
> > > >
> > > >Anyway... if Karlnet has any suggestions or if any vendors would 
> > > >like
> >
> > > >to contact me off-list, I'm looking for a solution!
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >Larry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > > >From: "Support" <support@karlnet.com>
> > > >Reply-To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > >Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:47:59 -0400
> > > >
> > > >>The higher output radios don't work in the AP-1000.  The 
> > > >>hardware isn't
> > > >
> > > >>setup to handle the power.
> > > >>
> > > >>Doug Harman
> > > >>KarlNet, Inc.
> > > >>525 Metro Place North
> > > >>Suite 100
> > > >>Dublin, OH 43017
> > > >>614 822-5275 x 123
> > > >>614 822-0024 fax
> > > >>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com 
> > > >>> [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]On
> > > >>> Behalf Of Larry Yunker
> > > >>> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:25 AM
> > > >>> To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > >>> Subject: [Karlnet] AP1000 with non-lucent cards
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Has anyone had any luck running the AP1000 in 802.11b mode 
> > > >>> with non-lucent cards.  I'm hoping to find a 100mw solution, 
> > > >>> but it has
> > > to
> > > >
> > > >>> be 802.11b mode NOT Turbocell.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Does the Karlnet SEC Base software let me do this?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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