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Re: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM 2.5 cards do not report signal or noise w/TC.

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Subject: Re: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM 2.5 cards do not report signal or noise w/TC...
From: "Norm Young" <npyoung@applegatebroadband.net>
Reply-to: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:02:49 -0700
List-post: <mailto:karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Tony, you need to put pressure on the manufacturer of the PRISM 2.5 cards to
get the firmware problem with TC corrected.  If you don't then both Dan and
I are holding some fairly crippled hardware we bought from you in good
faith.   This is a serious issue both for Dan, I and your reputation.  You
need to clear this problem forthwith.

Just my opinion,

Norm


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony " <tonylist@wwwbiz.com>
To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM 2.5 cards do not report signal or noise
w/TC...


> Norm
>
> The noise readings are a firmware issue on the Prism as it does not
> report this info to KN.  What are the test you have run checking the
> signal levels? Replacing an Orinoco with a Prism on the Client side the
> rx signal level should not change very much.
>
> FYI the Mikrotik are 200mW cards, technically there is no such thing as
> a 250mW card its marketing.  We work with the manufactures that both TT
> and Mikrotik are dealing with and they have confirmed this!
>
> Sincerely
> Tony Morella
> Demarc Technology Group
> Office: 908-996-7995
> Cell: 908-246-9170
> Fax: 908-847-0202
> email: tony@demarctech.com
> http://www.demarctech.com
> Wireless Solution Provider
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> On Behalf Of Norm Young
> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 8:48 AM
> To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> Cc: support@karlnet.com
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM 2.5 cards do not report signal or
> noise w/TC...
>
>
> Ok, but with one clarification, _both_ signal and noise are not reported
> correctly.  It would be very nice if TC could read the card, or a
> firmware fix could make it so.  Do you know the status of other PRISM
> 2.5 card as to
> this reporting problem, ie; the Mikrotik 250mW cards?   Do they report
> the
> signal/noise levels correctly to TC?   If so, then it's a matter of
> getting
> the card manufacturer's firmware to adhere to this standard.   I wonder
> if
> Doug could chime in here to confirm that this is a firmware problem with
> the
> card?   Does Karlnet have a fix for this card?
>
> Norm
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony " <tonylist@wwwbiz.com>
> To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 9:24 PM
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM card do not report signal or noise
> w/TC...
>
>
> > Norm
> >
> > This is correct, I believe Doug posted this is other day.  TC does not
>
> > report noise level as the firmware on all Prism cards do not report it
>
> > yet.  From what I have been told the card can do it if the firmware is
>
> > change seems like a simple request, still looking into this.
> >
> > In the mean time we put in a request to grey out the s/n and noise
> > readings as not to confuse things.
> >
> > Sincerely
> > Tony Morella
> > Demarc Technology Group
> > Office: 908-996-7995
> > Cell: 908-246-9170
> > Fax: 908-847-0202
> > email: tony@demarctech.com
> > http://www.demarctech.com
> > Wireless Solution Provider
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Norm Young
> > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 11:45 PM
> > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > Subject: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM card do not report signal or noise
> > w/TC...
> >
> >
> > Tony, I tried your 100mW PRISM 2.5 cards in TC v4.02/AP-1000/SA-4400,
> > and while the signal gains at the CPE's were impressive (7-8dB
> > reported from the CPE Orinoco radio on average), the reporting from
> > the PRISM 2.5 card was, well, non-existent.  All of my CPEs are
> > reported to have a S/N of 1, signal -94, noise, -95.  Obviously bogus,
>
> > obviously not reported correctly by the card, or correctly interpreted
>
> > by Karlnet TC.
> >
> > Norm
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tony " <tonylist@wwwbiz.com>
> > To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 8:38 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] AP1000 with non-lucent cards
> >
> >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > This is correct at this time, I have not received a update on
> > > whether or not SEC will be supported on the Prism chip.  Doug any
> > > comments on this??
> > >
> > > Sincerely
> > > Tony Morella
> > > Demarc Technology Group
> > > Office: 908-996-7995
> > > Cell: 908-246-9170
> > > Fax: 908-847-0202
> > > email: tony@demarctech.com
> > > http://www.demarctech.com
> > > Wireless Solution Provider
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> > > [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > > On Behalf Of Larry Yunker
> > > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:24 PM
> > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] AP1000 with non-lucent cards
> > >
> > >
> > > So you are stating that you can't even run 100mw cards in SEC mode
> > > in a PC running a karlnet flash-rom kit?  This sounds worse than I
> > > had thought.  I was really hoping to stay with Karlnet for it's nice
>
> > > client signal monitoring capability.  But I really need to get cards
>
> > > with more juice than 35mw and I really DON'T want to resort to AMPs.
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > > From: "Tony " <tonylist@wwwbiz.com>
> > > Reply-To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:06:08 -0400
> > >
> > > >Larry
> > > >
> > > >Your request is for SEC which is not an option under the prism
> > > >cards,
> >
> > > >SEC only works for Orinoco cards.
> > > >
> > > >Sincerely
> > > >Tony Morella
> > > >Demarc Technology Group
> > > >Office: 908-996-7995
> > > >Cell: 908-246-9170
> > > >Fax: 908-847-0202
> > > >email: tony@demarctech.com
> > > >http://www.demarctech.com
> > > >Wireless Solution Provider
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> > > >[mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > > >On Behalf Of Larry Yunker
> > > >Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 4:33 PM
> > > >To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > >Subject: RE: [Karlnet] AP1000 with non-lucent cards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Hmm... I could have sworn that there were a few guys that had the
> > > >AP-1000's running in Turbocell mode with the prism cards.
> > > >
> > > >Here is what I need:
> > > >
> > > >Some sort of hardware suitable for tower mounting (lightweight,
> > > >weather
> > >
> > > >resistant, Power-over-ethernet, etc, etc)
> > > >
> > > >Karlnet SEC BASE
> > > >three 100mw Cards (to run 3 sector antennas)
> > > >one standard 35mw Lucent Silver/Gold Card (to run backhaul to NOC
> > > >cross-polarized and 25ft vertical separation from the sectors)
> > > >
> > > >Does anyone market a 4-PCMCIA-slot SBC's with Karlnet firmware?  Or
>
> > > >maybe I'll just need to get two 2-PCMCIA slot SBC's with Karlnet.
> > > >
> > > >Anyway... if Karlnet has any suggestions or if any vendors would
> > > >like
> >
> > > >to contact me off-list, I'm looking for a solution!
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >Larry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > > >From: "Support" <support@karlnet.com>
> > > >Reply-To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > >Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:47:59 -0400
> > > >
> > > >>The higher output radios don't work in the AP-1000.  The hardware
> > > >>isn't
> > > >
> > > >>setup to handle the power.
> > > >>
> > > >>Doug Harman
> > > >>KarlNet, Inc.
> > > >>525 Metro Place North
> > > >>Suite 100
> > > >>Dublin, OH 43017
> > > >>614 822-5275 x 123
> > > >>614 822-0024 fax
> > > >>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> > > >>> [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]On
> > > >>> Behalf Of Larry Yunker
> > > >>> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:25 AM
> > > >>> To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > >>> Subject: [Karlnet] AP1000 with non-lucent cards
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Has anyone had any luck running the AP1000 in 802.11b mode with
> > > >>> non-lucent cards.  I'm hoping to find a 100mw solution, but it
> > > >>> has
> > > to
> > > >
> > > >>> be 802.11b mode NOT Turbocell.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Does the Karlnet SEC Base software let me do this?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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