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Re: [RFI] My biggest fear is happening

To: Stephanie WX3K <wx3k@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] My biggest fear is happening
From: Steve Muenich <srmuenich@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 15:36:36 -0500
List-post: <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
Stephanie,

Absolutely it’s prudent to baseline and document, but what’s not prudent is all 
the other actions that have already been mentioned.  

I’ll QRX now 


Sent from my mobile device

> On Jun 5, 2024, at 3:32 PM, Stephanie WX3K <wx3k@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Steve
> 
> And whose side are you on here ?
> 
> Taking a baseline beforehand is good reference and prudent
> 
> Stephanie WX3K
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2024, at 4:23 PM, Steve Muenich <srmuenich@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I still feel that you should have taken a baseline and assess the noise 
>> after, but instead you went all over the place, annoyed the installer that 
>> admittedly said he would work with you after he finished his job, you 
>> contacted the manufacturer, you contacted ARRL.   
>> You sir are the ham neighbor that the public non-ham world doesn’t want.
>> Even the title of your initial email “My biggest fear is happening” 
>> indicated you are flying off the deep end.  
>> Keep in perspective that this is only ham radio and a hobby.  
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mobile device
>> 
>>>> On Jun 5, 2024, at 2:58 PM, Paul Christensen via RFI <rfi@contesting.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>> What you really mean is that you misrepresented yourself and lied about 
>>> being an installer.  Our hobby doesn't need to be known for fostering that 
>>> kind of vendor relationship.  Frankly, I hope those of us here are done 
>>> assisting you.
>>> 
>>> Paul, W9AC
>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 5, 2024, at 12:13 PM, Bob Kozlarek WA2SQQ <wa2sqq@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I sent an email to Steve Anderson, but I’m not sure if the ARRL email
>>>> is back up and running. I also left him a voice message. We decided to
>>>> contact solar wave on my own and after masquerading as an installer I
>>>> actually got someone to call me back. I may have got lucky, but the
>>>> girl I spoke with had an excellent knowledge of using the phonetic
>>>> alphabet when she was repeating my email address back to me. After 20
>>>> minute phone call, she got back on the line to tell me that the matter
>>>> has been escalated to their engineering department and that their
>>>> engineering department is going to reach out to the installer who is
>>>> here right now. When I told him that I escalated the manner and that
>>>> somebody would be contacting him, he seemed quite annoyed. I’ll keep 
>>>> everyone posted.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> *Best 73 de WA2SQQElmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are those
>>>> we don't ask"*
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 12:25 PM Bob Kozlarek WA2SQQ
>>>>> <wa2sqq@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Already done
>>>>> *Best 73 de WA2SQQ*
>>>>> *Elmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are those we don't ask"*
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 12:16 PM Stephanie WX3K <wx3k@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Do baseline measurements of your band noise floors before they turn
>>>>>> it on
>>>>>> Stephanie WX3K
>>>>>>> On Jun 5, 2024, at 10:11 AM, Bob Kozlarek WA2SQQ <wa2sqq@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> So let’s assume Solar Edge is what they use. How has the feedback
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> noise?
>>>>>>> *Best 73 de WA2SQQElmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are
>>>>>>> those we don't ask"*
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 10:06 AM Michael Carter
>>>>>>>> <Mike.Carter@unh.edu>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>>>>> Unless your neighbor has opted to purchase and own the solar PV
>>>>>>>> system, Sunrun is the owner and obligated to address any RFI
>>>>>>>> issues associated with its installations.
>>>>>>>> The Sunrun business model is leasing of the installed PV system at
>>>>>>>> a fixed cost to the residence owner.
>>>>>>>> I tried to research the brands of products used by Sunrun
>>>>>>>> installers and found little information thus far.  Sunrun entered
>>>>>>>> into a purchase agreement with SolarEdge for inverters several
>>>>>>>> years ago, but I don't know if Sunrun is still using SolarEdge
>>>>>>>> products.
>>>>>>>> Readers of this list know all too well of RFI problems with
>>>>>>>> SolarEdge's line of 'solar optimizers', which are DC-DC
>>>>>>>> switch-mode power converters connected to each PV module.
>>>>>>>> Paul, W9AC's advice to quickly get a baseline reading of RF
>>>>>>>> background levels on all bands on which you operate is the best
>>>>>>>> action you can take now.  I would also reach out to Steve, W1EMI
>>>>>>>> at ARRL Laboratory who has interacted with SolarEdge and possibly
>>>>>>>> Sunrun on RFI issues.
>>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>> Mike, K8CN
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>> *From:* RFI <rfi-bounces+mike.carter=unh.edu@contesting.com> on
>>>>>> behalf of
>>>>>>>> Bob Kozlarek WA2SQQ <wa2sqq@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 5, 2024 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* rfi <rfi@contesting.com>
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [RFI] My biggest fear is happening
>>>>>>>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University System.
>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>> not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the
>>>>>>>> sender and know the content is safe.
>>>>>>>> Woke up this morning to discover a “Sunrun” solar truck in my
>>>>>>>> neighbors driveway. I’ve got a very good relation with my
>>>>>>>> neighbor. I shared my concerns and she admitted she wasn’t aware of 
>>>>>>>> the potential problem.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>> installers said, it should not cause any problems. I’m going to
>>>>>>>> speak
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the installers later today. What are the known components (brands)
>>>>>> that are
>>>>>>>> known offenders?
>>>>>>>> I’m going to try and remain optimistic, but I have a bad feeling.
>>>>>>>> *Best 73 de WA2SQQElmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are
>>>>>>>> those we don't ask"*
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