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Subject: [RTTY] WAEDC RTTY Contest
From: artinian@siol.net (Marijan Miletic, S56A)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:09:48 -0000
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NO QTC attitude is well known in WAE.  The best cure I saw so far was Leo,
S50R who manages to get them in five major languages.
It takes some time to explain the simple QTC request.  It is done by PC
software these days while I still type QTC with my two fingers...

73 de Mario, S56A, N1YU
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Shelby Summerville
  To: Waldemar DK3VN ; RTTY Contest
  Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 9:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [RTTY] WAEDC RTTY Contest


  Waldemar et al. The reasons for one not participating in any event
(contest
  or otherwise) are as varied as the number usually not participating?
  Personally, the passing of QTC's is not the part that lowers my
  participation interest, it is the request from other stations (this time
  can't blame US stations) for QTC's when I am calling CQ! As AA5AU
suggested,
  I have an exchanger buffer ending with "NO QTC", however, last year that
  still didn't keep stations from asking? I have been associated with
  contesting for 20 years, while only 4+ in RTTY, and believe that I have
seen
  the "best and worst" from many operators? My own personal barometer for a
  contest is, after the contest is over, I ask myself "did you have fun"? If
I
  have to think too long about that, I most likely didn't, and should try to
  find the reason, if I care to continue? I have had to personally
reevaluate
  my reason for participating, as my competitive nature will attempt to
  convince me that I didn't "really do well" if I didn't win! Well maybe, I
  just "redefined" winning?  :)
  I will most likely participate in WAE, along with my "beloved" no QTC
  buffer, and I will even try to keep a record of how many and which
stations
  ask for QTC's.
  C'Ya, Shelby
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Waldemar DK3VN <dk3vn@nexgo.de>
  To: RTTY Contest <rtty@contesting.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 4:20 AM
  Subject: Re: [RTTY] WAEDC RTTY Contest


  > Raj VE6RAJ wrote:
  > >
  > > "Hill, Don" wrote:
  > > >
  > > > There were a lot of comments made to the reflector that certain
  operators
  > > > would be skipping the WAEDC RTTY Contest because they did not care
  > > > for the exchange of QTC's.
  > > >
  > >
  > > Yeah:
  > >
  > > Just because you don't like QTCs shouldn't keep you out of the test. I
  > > am not a QTC expert, but as you can only send QTCs to another
continent,
  > > here is your chance to inflict your pain back on the originators or
the
  > > contest.
  > >
  > > 73
  > > Raj VE6RAJ
  >
  > Hi,
  >
  > for many HAM's the WAEDC is the most challenging DX contest in the
world!
  >
  > I am very surprised to read, that many RRTY OP's, even the "old ones",
  > don't like this contest, because they don't understand, what a QTC is???
  > I may understand, that SSB OP's don't know, what a QTC is, but a RTTY OP
  > should know what a QTC is! Boy, I am really surprised!
  >
  > If I remember right, the real OM's (OM=Old Man) here should correct me,
  > many, many decades ago the mode RTTY was created for one usage only:
  > To send QTC's from one point to an other point on this world. If I am
  > right, the mode CW was the first mode, which was created for the same
  > reason only; just to send QTC's.
  >
  > If anyone has forgotten what "QTC" means or had not to learn the
  > Q-Groups, like QRZ, QRM, QRN, QSY, .. as a part of the license test:
  > QTC=Telegram.
  >
  > See you in the WAEDC-RTTY. The real hard guys you can see in the
  > WAEDC-CW; if you still like CW. ~:-)
  >
  > 73 de Waldemar, DK3VN
  > --
  > Check RWRL on  http://www.qsl.net/dk3vn   mailto:dk3vn@darc.de
  > RWRL Mirror on http://home.nexgo.de/waldemar.kebsch
  > German DX Foundation #207  http://www.gdxf.de
  > Big antennas, high in the sky, are better than small ones, low!
  >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>NO QTC attitude is well known in =
WAE.&nbsp; The=20
best cure I saw so far was Leo, S50R who manages to get them in five =
major=20
languages.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It takes some time to explain the =
simple QTC=20
request.&nbsp; It is done by PC software these days while I still type =
QTC with=20
my two fingers...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Mario, S56A, =
N1YU</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dk4ww@home.com href=3D"mailto:k4ww@home.com";>Shelby =
Summerville</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Ddk3vn@nexgo.de=20
  href=3D"mailto:dk3vn@nexgo.de";>Waldemar DK3VN</A> ; <A =
title=3Drtty@contesting.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:rtty@contesting.com";>RTTY Contest</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 30, 2001 =
9:55=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RTTY] WAEDC RTTY=20
  Contest</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Waldemar et al. The reasons for one not participating =
in any=20
  event (contest<BR>or otherwise) are as varied as the number usually =
not=20
  participating?<BR>Personally, the passing of QTC's is not the part =
that lowers=20
  my<BR>participation interest, it is the request from other stations =
(this=20
  time<BR>can't blame US stations) for QTC's when I am calling CQ! As =
AA5AU=20
  suggested,<BR>I have an exchanger buffer ending with "NO QTC", =
however, last=20
  year that<BR>still didn't keep stations from asking? I have been =
associated=20
  with<BR>contesting for 20 years, while only 4+ in RTTY, and believe =
that I=20
  have seen<BR>the "best and worst" from many operators? My own personal =

  barometer for a<BR>contest is, after the contest is over, I ask myself =
"did=20
  you have fun"? If I<BR>have to think too long about that, I most =
likely=20
  didn't, and should try to<BR>find the reason, if I care to continue? I =
have=20
  had to personally reevaluate<BR>my reason for participating, as my =
competitive=20
  nature will attempt to<BR>convince me that I didn't "really do well" =
if I=20
  didn't win! Well maybe, I<BR>just "redefined" winning?&nbsp; :)<BR>I =
will most=20
  likely participate in WAE, along with my "beloved" no QTC<BR>buffer, =
and I=20
  will even try to keep a record of how many and which stations<BR>ask =
for=20
  QTC's.<BR>C'Ya, Shelby<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: =
Waldemar DK3VN=20
  &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:dk3vn@nexgo.de";>dk3vn@nexgo.de</A>&gt;<BR>To: =
RTTY Contest=20
  &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:rtty@contesting.com";>rtty@contesting.com</A>&gt;<BR>Sent: =

  Tuesday, October 30, 2001 4:20 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [RTTY] WAEDC RTTY=20
  Contest<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Raj VE6RAJ wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
"Hill,=20
  Don" wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; There were a lot of =
comments=20
  made to the reflector that certain<BR>operators<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
would be=20
  skipping the WAEDC RTTY Contest because they did not care<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
  for the exchange of QTC's.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =

  Yeah:<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Just because you don't like QTCs =
shouldn't=20
  keep you out of the test. I<BR>&gt; &gt; am not a QTC expert, but as =
you can=20
  only send QTCs to another continent,<BR>&gt; &gt; here is your chance =
to=20
  inflict your pain back on the originators or the<BR>&gt; &gt; =
contest.<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 73<BR>&gt; &gt; Raj VE6RAJ<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  Hi,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; for many HAM's the WAEDC is the most challenging =
DX=20
  contest in the world!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I am very surprised to read, =
that many=20
  RRTY OP's, even the "old ones",<BR>&gt; don't like this contest, =
because they=20
  don't understand, what a QTC is???<BR>&gt; I may understand, that SSB =
OP's=20
  don't know, what a QTC is, but a RTTY OP<BR>&gt; should know what a =
QTC is!=20
  Boy, I am really surprised!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; If I remember right, the =
real OM's=20
  (OM=3DOld Man) here should correct me,<BR>&gt; many, many decades ago =
the mode=20
  RTTY was created for one usage only:<BR>&gt; To send QTC's from one =
point to=20
  an other point on this world. If I am<BR>&gt; right, the mode CW was =
the first=20
  mode, which was created for the same<BR>&gt; reason only; just to send =

  QTC's.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; If anyone has forgotten what "QTC" means or had =
not to=20
  learn the<BR>&gt; Q-Groups, like QRZ, QRM, QRN, QSY, .. as a part of =
the=20
  license test:<BR>&gt; QTC=3DTelegram.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; See you in the =
WAEDC-RTTY.=20
  The real hard guys you can see in the<BR>&gt; WAEDC-CW; if you still =
like CW.=20
  ~:-)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 73 de Waldemar, DK3VN<BR>&gt; --<BR>&gt; Check =
RWRL=20
  on&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.qsl.net/dk3vn";>http://www.qsl.net/dk3vn</A>&nbsp;&nbsp=
; <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:dk3vn@darc.de";>mailto:dk3vn@darc.de</A><BR>&gt; RWRL =
Mirror on <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://home.nexgo.de/waldemar.kebsch";>http://home.nexgo.de/waldem=
ar.kebsch</A><BR>&gt;=20
  German DX Foundation #207&nbsp; <A=20
  href=3D"http://www.gdxf.de";>http://www.gdxf.de</A><BR>&gt; Big =
antennas, high in=20
  the sky, are better than small ones, low!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
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