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Re: [RTTY] QRM to W1AW/0 (MO) RTTY

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Subject: Re: [RTTY] QRM to W1AW/0 (MO) RTTY
From: "Gary AL9A" <al9a@mtaonline.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 08:17:56 -0800
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This thread has been valuable from my perspective. I am getting geared up to run as one of the WA1W/KL7 stations in a couple of weeks. To hopefully avoid getting "stepped on" by any of the various ARRL bulletins I have made a copy of the W1AW schedule from the latest QST and highlighted the various frequencies used by W1AW for their various modes.

My intention is to check this reminder before jumping on any given band so as to pick a frequency well removed from any used by ARRL, both as my TX frequency and any RX split frequency I may choose to use. Hopefully this will prevent ARRL bulletin interference to my TX frequency and to the RX frequency I'm using when split.

73,
Gary AL9A

-----Original Message----- From: joeduerbusch
Sent: June 04, 2014 7:00 AM
To: W0MU Mike Fatchett
Cc: rtty reflector
Subject: Re: [RTTY] QRM to W1AW/0 (MO) RTTY

Hi Mike, I do agree with Ed K0KL on this.  I have been copying the W1AW
bulletins for 40 years.  I still do, mostly on RTTY but sometimes on CW.
I have used the scheduled bulletins on RTTY to check out various RTTY
Equipment.  I even used W1AW CW to calibrate my Heathkit HW-16 when I was a
Novice.
Just because it broke a QSO with you, it doesn't mean it has no value.
As far as setting up on 14313, you can do that.  K1MAN did the same thing
for years on 14275.  Just be ready to be at your station 24/7.

So when W1AW comes on, either QSY or just copy it.

Joe K0BX



On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 5:01 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:

Does anyone even copy these bulletins anymore.  There is no way to find
out.  In this day and age I doubt many do.

Published months in advance do not allow one to break the rules. So if I
publish my operating schedule on 14.313 months in advance and fire up, this
is ok?  I think not.

Mike W0MU

On 6/3/2014 9:47 AM, Edwin Karl wrote:

How about don't blame the victim ... !

I didn't know even the exalted bulletins were special
and above the rules we all live with (?)

Ed K0KL

On 6/3/2014 10:20 AM, Dick Kriss wrote:

Gary AL9A.

The W1AW Bulletin station has been doing that for years. The error was
on the part of the W1AW/0 (MO) operator for setting up and calling CQ on
the published W1AW broadcast frequency.

It would be interesting to see a poll taken of the amateur community on
the need for ARRL W1AW broadcast station. Broadcasting was good when it was
created but may no longer be useful or used.  Maintaining a club station
for member use has value; however, I would rather see the operational cost
of broadcasting channeled into more useful projects, like LoTW.

Dick AA5VU

On Jun 2, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Gary AL9A <al9a@mtaonline.net> wrote:

 In no way is this "amusing".  It is a portent of of what awaits us all
should RM-11708 be enacted as is.

Dick, I think you should send a copy of your email to ARRL and ask why
they interfered with one of their own W1AW portable stations?  Also ask
what are they going to do to insure this doesn't happen again to any
unfortunate soul who happens to be operating on "their" frequency when its
time to transmit a ARRL bulletin?

73,
Gary AL9A

-----Original Message----- From: David Tanks via RTTY
Sent: June 02, 2014 2:35 PM
To: Dick Kriss ; RTTY Reflector
Subject: Re: [RTTY] QRM to W1AW/0 (MO) RTTY


This is amusing. The ARRL is touting RM 11708 as being helpful, while
at the same time QRMing an on-going operation on a frequency without
checking to see if it is busy! The ARRL does not have a right to a
frequency if it is occupied already. They are supposed to move to prevent
QRM, correct?


73, David AD4TJ



________________________________
From: Dick Kriss <aa5vu@att.net>
To: RTTY Reflector <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, June 2, 2014 6:29 PM
Subject: [RTTY] QRM to W1AW/0 (MO) RTTY


I was trying to work W1AW/0 (MO) on RTTY at 18.100 and W1AW home
bulletin station came on like a PACTOR robot and wiped out any chance of
working the W1AW/O Centennial station.

Future W1AW/P RTTY operations should avoid W1AW broadcast frequencies.

Dick AA5VU




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