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Re: [RTTY] Trailing CQ

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Subject: Re: [RTTY] Trailing CQ
From: Tom Osborne <w7why@frontier.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:54:33 -0700
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What are we supposed to do this weekend in the WPX SSB??

There are no skimmers for SSB.  How in the heck am I going to know who to
work and how to find them without a skimmer?

Guess I just won't get on.  73
Tom W7WHY


On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Michael Clarson <wv2zow@gmail.com> wrote:

> My understanding of the problem is S&P operators like CQ at the end to save
> time. Skimmers like the CQ at the end so they know its a valid CQ -
>  running station. Problem is when someone tailends the CQ with their own
> call (perfectly OK practice) it fools the skimmers into thinking they
> called CQ. Suggestion: instead of attempting to change the operating
> practice, suppose running stations end with CQ {period} {space} This keeps
> S&P ops happy. If skimmers do nothing, status quo is maintained. If
> skimmers alter software to ignore calls after the CQ {period}, spotting
> accuracy is improved. Comments? --Mike, WV2ZOW
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Ed Muns <ed@w0yk.com> wrote:
>
> > The rationale for a trailing 'CQ' in CQ and TU messages is no more true
> for
> > RTTY than CW.  CW contesting has decades of existence proof that such a
> > trailing CQ is not needed, i.e., the rationale is flawed.
> >
> > The only valid reason for the trailing 'CQ' in RTTY messages is that it
> has
> > (unnecessarily) been done that way for many years now.  RTTY contesters
> > expect it and can be confused if it isn't there.
> >
> > The advent of RTTY Skimmer offers a good reason to stop this practice,
> but
> > changing such an entrenched technique will take concerted effort by RTTY
> > contesters over a long period of time.  However, the longer we wait, the
> > longer it will take to accomplish.
> >
> > Why don't we drop 'CQ' from the end of our messages now and get on with
> the
> > transition?
> >
> > Ed W0YK
> >
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