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Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum

To: Phil Sussman <psussman@pactor.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Waterfall and CQ conundrum
From: joeduerbusch <k0bx@arrl.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 20:11:08 +0000
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When is this dead horse dead?


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On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Phil Sussman <psussman@pactor.com> wrote:

> Ah, yes, the 'laws' of one way propagation:
>
> One:    The consequence of one-way propagation when working split.
>         That's when a multitude of stations call (you know the
>         typical up 5-25 -- yep I've seen/heard that one) covering
>         existing QSOs and can't (won't) listen up first. Most noticeable
>         by hearing many stations (but one loud one in particular) that
>         keep yelling "UP" "UP" "UP" on the non-up frequency, thus
>         interfering with the original station.
>
> Two:    Calling CQ only to interfere with someone with whom you can't
>         hear, so his 'buddies' keep telling you that you're QRMing
>         someone, but you don't move either because you don't hear his
>         buddies either -or- you were there first and don't QSY.
>
> Three:  You call CQ, but nobody answers, either because they don't
>         hear you or you're not the DX they're seeking.
>
> 73 ES Happy Holidays !!!
>
> de Phil - N8PS
>
>
>
>
> Quoting Jerry Flanders <jeflanders@comcast.net>:
>
> Can you tell us more about the 'laws' of one-way-propagation, Phil? I have
>> heard of this for many years but have _never_ been able to find any proof
>> of it - only opinions.
>>
>> Jerry W4UK
>>
>> At 06:54 AM 3/27/2016, Phil Sussman wrote:
>>
>>> Ian is correct. Technology is a wonderful thing and is a good
>>> supplement. But, it is no substitute for common courtesy.
>>>
>>> From another point of view, many listeners might be observing
>>> a waterfall, all at the same time from various locations.
>>> Some might see a 'point' as occupied while others do not. Since
>>> there are no fixed frequencies, adjacent operating points vary.
>>> In addition, the 'laws' of one-way-propagation can apply.
>>>
>>> QRL or no QRL. Waterfall or no waterfall, contests have become
>>> for me, a matter of overblown egos and budgets. That's why I
>>> seldom participate and if I do make an exchange I don't submit
>>> a log. I really don't care about making points.
>>>
>>> 73 de Phil - N8PS
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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