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Re: [TenTec] My new ORION

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] My new ORION
From: <wq7x@cox.net>
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Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 19:26:57 -0400
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Grant,
1.I'm talking about narrow dynamic range as well.
Right now Orion will not handle week signal at 1kHz or 5kHz spacing from the 
strong signal S9 +35dB. This is the fact.
Everything is distorted-period.I'm not talking about specification. This is 
real life test with 1.372 firmware.
IC7800 will handle week signal under the same condition.
I know -I did it.
2. Orion will handle week signals close to strong one
perhaps even better than IC7800 but only with different firmware. I will not go 
back to 1.371 I will take  new one 2.0.
3. I don't care about your radio I care about majority of Orion's with 1.372. 
This is known problem and Bill has described it very well.
4. Everybody would prefer to turn the function ON or OFF
with one PUSH of the botton-this is normal way.
You should not need to push "AN" first to get black backround on it and than 
push it again to turn it "ON".

Also, tell me how many times do you have to turn the knob
in order to lower  the AGC treshold from 10uV to 0.37uV- is it about 200 times? 
This needs to be corrected as well.
Anybody else has this problem???

I like my radio but it has problems.Even Ten Tec will tell you that.
Also,I'm sure that Ten Tec will improve ORION.
But they need good feedback.
If everything is so good like you are trying to tell everybody, than why good 
number of ORION's was returned to Ten Tec for refund. We need to help Ten Tec 
to stop this
trend. We will not do good job if we close our eyes and pretend that everything 
is great.
Ten Tec and Elecraft are the only two Co. that understand
how to design good RX. So, Ten Tec just needs to finish
this great radio. 
Mark WQ7X



  
> 
> From: "Grant Youngman" <nq5t@comcast.net>
> Date: 2005/05/23 Mon PM 06:14:29 EDT
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] My new ORION
> 
>  
> > 1.No, the real difference will not became apparent because 
> > IC7800 can easily handle signal 599+35dB at 1kHz spacing. My 
> > Orion and many other Orion's can't handle that with the 
> > current fimware.
> 
> I'm talking about narrow spaced dynamic range, which has nothing to do with
> firmware.
> 
> > Ten Tec knows about the problem with the 
> > distortion of strong signals.
> > However your statement would be correct if Orion could handle 
> > strong signals without distortion.
> 
> I have had no problems as you have described.  Like I said, maybe I'm just
> lucky.
> 
> > So, is my statement correct.ON CW 100Hz BP filter on Orion is 
> > actually 300Hz?
> 
> I think it's a bit greater than 100 Hz, but don't recall any discussion of
> it being 300Hz.  Others on the board have done actual measurements and
> perhaps they will chime in.  The comments under 1.0 above relate, as I said,
> to  narrow spaced dynamic range, where the 7800 basically falls apart
> relative to the Orion.  Take at look at http://www.sherweng.com/table.html
> and http://www.w8ji.com/receiver_tests.htm.
> 
> > 3.Example: SSB mode I have pushed NB and then there is a 
> > carrier so I would like to engage
> >   AN and then I would like to turn off NB. Guess how many 
> > times You have to push those
> >   bottons. First I push AN, so now is highlighted and than I 
> > need to push again so it will
> >   engage and so on.
> 
> Ok, we all have different notions of what is a good control interface, given
> a fixed number of knobs.  My point was, if you want something different,
> suggest specifically what that should be.
> 
> > 
> > I'm really not interested to promote the ORION as a perfect 
> > TRX. 
> 
> Neither am I.  I use the Orion, warts and all, quite happily.  There is no
> "perfect" radio.  Some just cost more than others :-)
> 
> Grant/NQ5T
> 
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