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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Top receivers
From: d.e.warnick@comcast.net
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Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 12:36:06 +0000 (UTC)
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There are currently emission standards, etc. that need to be met to gain FCC 
type acceptance. If the current crop of transceivers meet these specifications 
& there is still a problem, then the specifications for FCC type acceptanced 
may (or may not) need to be reviewed. There is a specification for 'spurious 
emissions', as well as others. If they are not doing the job, then a thoroug h 
review of those specs may be in order. 

What we do not need is any government authority dictating engineering such as a 
specific type of component ("48v MOSFETs"). 

Please, please, please allow the consumer to drive the market, and be very 
cautious about yet more government oversight where it has been proven time and 
again to increase cost without solving anything. 

Just my take. 



We could solve a lot of issues on the air by better educating those among us 
who overdrive, tune improperly, overprocess, and run fa r more power than 
necess ary. (Yes, I do use a linear when necessary.) In the current Yemen & 
Somalia DXpeditions, I have had far more issues with bad operators than with 
bad signals. (If I hear UP, LID, or worse one more time, I think I'll scream). 
I have shut down & walked away several times, even though I need the band. My 
choice, but that's not the ham radio that I have enjoyed for more than 45 
years, and I choose to not let it become that. There are guys calling without a 
break even though a contact is in progress. If you want more government 
intervention, fund the FCC's enforcement branch to clean this up. (No, I don't 
really want that either but something has got to give). 



OK, I've had my rant. 

Happy Monday 



Dave 

WA3F 





----- Original Message -----


From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de> 
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com> 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 7:17:45 AM 
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Top receivers 

Bob, you hit it.  We need to stop making transmitters with 12v transistors. 
48v MOSFETs should be mandatory.  We do need laws to mandate this. 

The problem as I see it is with the mobile rigs. 
Maybe we could allow rigs designed specifically for mobile use to still use 
12v transistors, but have a conspicuous message on the box and a warning 
label on the rig, "NOT PERMITTED TO BE USED WITH A LINEAR AMPLIFIER". 

Surely 100w on a mobile whip can't do too much damage! 

YAESU definitely needs to clean up its act. 
The bands are flooded with FT-1000s which produce horrendous key clicks. 
Even though W8JI came up with a $2 fix for the problem just months after its 
initial announcement, it took Yaesu nearly 6 years to finally incorporate 
that fix into their new units. 

As Floyd pointed out, they still don't know how to build a rig that keys 
cleanly - regardless of price. Shame shame! 

If we start now, maybe in 5 years we could get some legislation, and maybe 
in 15 years the bands will finally be cleaner. 
I don't expect to see it in my lifetime! 

73 
Rick 

-----Original Message----- 
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] 
On Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 1:28 AM 
To: floyd@k8ac.net; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment 
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Top receivers 

Floyd, I agree with you and with many of the other writers.  The receiver 
performance has been pushed ahead and largely demanded by "users" in a 
competitive market while the transmitter performance is largely controlled 
by outdated Government regulations. 

Yes, it is time to clean up the bands and push for cleaner transmitters and 
power amps.  However, how does one control the outdated transmitters in use 
today?  Put a time limit on them saying they must meet the current specs or 
be trashed by a certain date?  They have done that for other applications 
and equipment such as the switch from analog TV to digital TV.  That was 
expensive for everyone, specially the broadcasters.  But look how it forced 
the price of digital TV's down.  The price dropped some 75% in just 2 years. 

Imagine a top of the line ham transceiver for under $2K.  Of course one has 
to look at things differently, i.e. a business vs. a hobby.  Then there are 
countries which mandate when a vehicle gets X number of years old they are 
crushed thus can no longer be used.  That was done to largely effect a 
reduction in air pollution and it worked.  Maybe that would work for ham 
radio. 

I'm all up for cleaner bands and cleaner signals.  I believe today we have 
to forgo the idea of 12 volt radios to attain that desired result. 
Technically there is no problem with that concern either.  As one wrote, 
there's the 200 watt class radio that only outputs 75 watts when running in 
class A mode.  Are we willing to accept that fact or are we a culture that 
is too number driven? 

I don't like Government intervention any more than anyone else, but some 
effort by manufactures, pushed by Government regulations and us buyers that 
pay our hard earned money for these boxes need to demand better 
transmitters.  That's "better" in terms of cleaner, lower noise, and lower 
IMD products and operators that  operate them correctly.  It is a very large 
topic and will need to be addressed on an international basis. 


73 
Bob, K4TAX 




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