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Re: [TenTec] din connector, etc.

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] din connector, etc.
From: Robert <rmcgraw@blomand.net>
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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 20:47:32 -0500
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The Eagle has a fixed delay of ~17 ms after key up before RF is generated. 
There is no post delay that I am aware.  If you are referring to QSK delay, 
this is only receive recovery delay. 

Bob, K4TAX


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> On Sep 23, 2014, at 8:20 PM, John F. <k4avx1@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Rick,
> I am presently keying the Hercules II with the amp keyer from Mike,
> and it works well.  In fact, it seemed as fast as qsk, although the
> Herc is in relay mode - has a vacuum relay, I think.  Anyway, I
> set the delay in the Eagle to about 3 ms to make it a little less
> harsh.  I use mostly CW, but have been doing more phone lately.
> The Amp Keyer  just follows the delay in the Eagle, so this is
> a work around.
> 
> Also, I have an old Dentron Clipperton L that I sometimes use.
> I believe it has the delay build in, but not sure as I haven't
> hooked it to the Amp Keyer yet.  If I use it for CW, I may have
> to set the delay in the Eagle longer to solve the problem you
> mentioned.  Need more time at the rig to get everything right.
> Probably use the Clipperton more on phone, because of the
> delay needed on CW.
> 
> Steve, looks like you have used  the Amp Keyer to solve a
> sometimes difficult problem.
> 
> At this point, I'm getting along OK trying to get ready for
> the fall SS, etc.
> 
> Thanks,
> 73, John, K4AVX
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 07:38:35 +0200
> From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP"<Rick@DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'"<tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Subject: Re:  din connector, news from Hall
>    Mountain KY
> Message-ID: <003001cfd627$77afeb00$670fc100$@de>
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> 
> John,
> 
> The WB8VGE amp keyer is really a sweet product but the 318 does have one
> additional feature which I could not live without (due to my old amp).  It
> has an adjustable post-dit "hang" delay.  If Mike's unit does too, he
> doesn't say so and I don't see any adjustment on the PC board for this
> feature.
> 
> Without this hang delay, when running CW, my old amp's open-frame TR relay
> chatters like crazy.
> I absolutely must have it.
> 
> If you have an amp with a fast relay, you may not need it.
> If you only run SSB you will never need it.
> For for CW and digi modes you may need it.
> 
> However it is a very simple circuit that could be added to the amp keyer.
> Maybe Mike will even include it with a version 2 of the amp keyer.
> 
> The Eagle is the only recent transceiver from Ten-Tec that requires this.
> The Omni's and OM7 have a menu adjustment for the hang delay.
> 
> It would be nice if Ten-Tec could add this but from what John Henry has
> stated in the past, it is missing the hardware to do so.  The hardware will
> cost about $3.
> 
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
> 
> 
> 
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:44:54 -0500
>> From: Steve Berg<wa9jml@frontier.com>
>> To:tentec@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Subject: Re:  din connector, news from Hall
>>    Mountain KY
>> Message-ID:<5420C286.8010306@frontier.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>> 
>> 
>> I have had great results from using Mike's Amp Keyer with my Argonaut II
>> and my boatanchor 6 meter setup.  I use the Amp Keyer to switch the coax
>> relay, and also the transmit connections on the back of my P&H
>> transmitting converter.  I use the P&H and a Tapetone dual cascode 6
>> meter receiving converter.  The receiving converter is slightly modified
>> to take the LO from the P&H.  It works surprisingly well!  I put in the
>> mod to run the transmit key line out of the Argo II.  It takes some care
>> to get the hang time set on the Argo.  Mike's product is well made and a
>> real help when dealing with the limited switching current specs of the Argo.
>> 
>> Steve WA9JML
>> 
>> EN51
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