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Re: [VHFcontesting] Sports vs. Radiosports

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Sports vs. Radiosports
From: "kentke" <kentke@infoblvd.net>
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 11:45:53 -0400
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I have never seen as much bickering as goes on these days.  Why don't you
guys just get on the air and have some "FUN" making contacts.
 By the way, look for my friend and I (KA2LIM & KB2YCC) /4 the day before
and during the Sep contest from FM26. We will be on four bands. 6 - 432. CW
& SSB. You can see our band plans at the following site:
http://www.infoblvd.net/kentke/ka2lim.htm
By the way, We will be on during the contest to give out a somewhat rare
grid not to win any ole' contest.  Have fun and see you on the bands.

Ken
KA2LIM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex" <kr1st@amsat.org>
Cc: "VHFContesting eMail Remailer" <VHFcontesting@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Sports vs. Radiosports


> Ev Tupis wrote:
>
> >>> === Radio Contests Today ===
> >>> When it's all over, we are given 30-days to "audit our logs".
> >>
> >>
> >> Are you trying to imply that people are cheating during this period?
> >> Could you explain this to us a bit more?
> >
> >
> > Hi George,
> > Nothing that ominous.
>
> Well, you did say "audit"...
>
> > I simply point out that in today's contesting
> > world, there is a 30-day grace-period that should be questioned as to
> > "why?".  Of course, the answer is "to allow for the submission of paper
> > logs via postal mail."
> >
> > I believe that this should be revisited as part of an overall
> > re-engineering of contesting with a 21st century focus.
>
> A 21st century Focus does not include hams who do not have means to
> electronically submit logs, or who choose to use paper logging? Let's
> keep the focus on being inclusive rather than exclusive. I'm sure the
> contest sponsors would narrow the window if their experience would allow
> for it.
>
> A 30 day window really isn't all that bad. Heck, sending a letter in the
> US can take up to two weeks. I get air mailed magazines from Europe that
> get here 6 to 8 weeks late because they end up on the wrong pile at the
> post office over there.
>
> I'm one of those folks that takes advantage of the 30 day window if
> needed. One time I had to rework my log because silly me didn't check
> the time on the computer and didn't realize until after a 48 hour
> contest that the CMOS battery was dead. One time I received a message
> from a fellow contester in Argentina whose log got partially destroyed
> and he tried to contact those folks he worked in order to recreate the
> log so he had something to submit and all that time at the radio wasn't
> for nothing.
>
> Of course, if we're really only interested in the scores of the highest
> scoring stations, then yes, you can shorten the grace period to a week
> or so. Those stations will probably have the means to meet that
> requirement. But count on losing a lot of participants, who btw., are on
> the other side of the contacts needed to generate that top score.
>
> 73,
> --Alex KR1ST
> http://www.kr1st.com
>
>
>
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