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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Explanation
From: Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:04:44 -0600
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The FCC could care less about grid circling, in or out of contests.

The FCC could care less about contests, contest scores or amateur radio
awards (VUCC, etc.)

The potential buyers of spectrum could care less about these things.

The only thing they MIGHT care about is whether the frequencies were being
used by radio amateurs at all.

We are not trying to sell the idea of keeping our frequencies to fellow
hams. We are trying to sell it to entities that could care less about ham
activities other than the fact there WERE activities, as long as no FCC
rules were violated.
If you think we, as radio amateurs, should fold it up and take up something
else just because there are a few people doing grid circling on maybe 14
days out of the year at the most, I'm in strong disagreement.

73, Zack W9SZ


On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:14 AM, frank bechdoldt <k3uhf@hotmail.com> wrote:

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> Someone asked
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> "Please explain how we would be better off by having no activity, than by
> having occasional grid circling activity."
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> The idea is to trade away the majority of the upper spectrum for security
> of the lower bands and perhaps less restrictions that keep people from being
> active hams, such as CC&R's.  If such an idea came to life there is a great
> potential to keep more people in Ham Radio.  The more people in ham radio
> will mean more ARRL members which would mean more money to take on issues
> that matter to us.  If 10 percent of all hams get on ssb on 50 mhz and up
> then we will get more activity as more hams keep and use their licenses on
> the bands that most of us truly utilize.  It is a win-win situation.
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> The discussion little to do with grid circling, other than its the activity
> the ARRL uses to justify spectrum.  The proposal will leave a mhz on each
> band and the grid circlers will be left unharmed.  Grid circling is an issue
> of contest rules, not trading spectrum. They are not under attack here.
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> The true challenge out there is to use that spectrum in a manner that looks
> productive from people outside of our subculture.  As I said perhaps a year
> ago there may even need to need for the ARRL to push the FCC to allow hams
> to do more and be less liable for what's transmitted and who uses our upper
> spectrum.
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> What if Hams were allowed to use 3 ghz to set up free wireless networks
>  for non hams?  The we would be providing something to the community. I'm
> sure there are better ideas than this.  But if we don't use it, we will lose
> it and at least right now we might be able to trade it for something.
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> That being said, make some good contacts, make some amazing long distance
> contacts on those high bands.  Take pictures, write articles for the
> newspapers and show what can be done up there.
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> As someone else said, why leave those 10 band portable stations all over
> the country idol? Go out there and show them off from mountain top to
> mountain top on a non contest weekend.  Of course advertise it so others can
> work towards their awards.
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> k3uhf
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