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Re: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200

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Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
From: "Norm Young" <lists@applegatebroadband.net>
Reply-to: Norm Young <lists@applegatebroadband.net>,Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:57:32 -0700
List-post: <mailto:karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
John,

I've been a user of MT for some time, and have been very pleased with the
router (which is our gateway router) and the continual improvements to same.
I'm really looking forward to this Nstreme protocol implementation.   I have
a backhaul application, 17 mi. shot, low noise.   Currently I'm using KN
2.4b, and I've outgrown it.  I'd like to see at least 20Mbps on this link.
I'm currently looking at Motorola's Canopy, but I certainly like the
functionality of your routers, and their ease of use.  Do you think this new
polling protocol/Atheros 5.8GHz radios would work for this application?

If it works, I'm also looking at the next step on the PtMP front.  What do
you have in the way of CPEs for Nstreme planned?

Also John, if you'd like to reduce your volume of questions like these, why
don't you implement a message board much like the StarOS folks have?  The
email MT board is too fragmented to be of much use in researching questions
like these.  (Not completely useless, but much less useful than
http://forums.star-os.com/ is for StarOS.)

Cheers,

Norm


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Tully" <tully@mikrotik.com>
To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:38 PM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200


> At 05:13 PM 4/28/2004, you wrote:
> >John,
> >
> >You will have a polling system soon? Please provide more details?
>
> Here is the initial document from a test package that you can put on a
> MikroTik AP/router/client.
> http://www.mikrotik.com/Documentation/nstreme.pdf
> Download page:
> http://www.mikrotik.com/download.html
>
> There will be some significant changes in the next two weeks, so this is
> just for testing if you are interested.  The Nstreme (TM) protocol also
has
> the possibility for two radios (one tx only and one rx only) -- also one
> radio is supported for the multipoint Nstreme.
>
> John
> www.mikrotik.com
>
>
>
>
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Dan
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> >[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> > > On Behalf Of John Tully
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:59 AM
> > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
> > >
> > > At 02:35 PM 4/28/2004, you wrote:
> > > >John,
> > > >
> > > >Have you thought about supporting the KN PC Driver for Linux so you
> >can
> > > >setup a Satellite station off a KN TC network?
> > >
> > > For 2.4GHz solutions, most people use our AP only and use some low
> >cost
> > > client solution -- unless they need a very smart router at the client,
> >and
> > > then they use our client solution also.  For 5GHz, people use all
> >MikroTik
> > > RouterOS products (and usually www.routerboard.com products) for a
> > > complete
> > > high speed solution.
> > >
> > > So, I don't think it would be so useful to have KN TC 2.4GHz client
> >only
> > > support in our system.  If the Linux driver includes source, then it
> > > wouldn't be difficult to add it -- but are many people interested in
> >this?
> > >
> > > Also, we will have the so called 'polling' feature soon -- and from
> >what I
> > > know about the Karlnet TC, ours will have some important features that
> >are
> > > not in the TC.  For example, ours will use multiple rates (actually,
> >ours
> > > uses the best rate for throughput) -- where I have read that with
> >some/all
> > > TC versions you have to set only one rate for the AP.  Of course I am
> >not
> > > an expert on TC, so I may be wrong.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > >[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of John Tully
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:56 AM
> > > >To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > >Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
> > > >
> > > >You can do that with a MikroTik RouterOS AP.
> > > >http://www.mikrotik.com/docs2.8/interface/bridge.main
> > > >
> > > >John
> > > >www.mikrotik.com
> > > >
> > > >At 06:15 PM 4/27/2004, you wrote:
> > > > >It's a shame that with 4 interfaces on the KN-200 that you can't
> >define
> > > >L2
> > > > >bridge groups - For example, define Interfaces 1 & 2 as "Group 1"
> >and
> > > > >Interfaces 3 & 4 as "Group 2" so that you can then route between
> >Group
> > > >1 &
> > > > >Group 2.
> > > > >
> > > > >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> > > > >
> > > > >On 2004-04-26 at 10:34 PM Paul Horak wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Anybody know if you can bridge and route on the same
> > > > > >radio (KN200 in this rather bizarre case :-))? If so,
> > > > > >please can you share the config? Turning on routing
> > > > > >seems to automatically deny bridging of IP traffic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Cheers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Paul
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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