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Re: [RTTY] Change in pileup procedure?

To: "Anthony (N2KI)" <n2ki.ham@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Change in pileup procedure?
From: Tom Haavisto <kamham69@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 06:53:27 -0500
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Have you really thought this through, and does your gear even support this
style of operation?

The reason I ask is that dual receive becomes an absolute must, and a lot
of older and low end gear does not offer this capability.  When I was
shopping for new gear, dual receive was a "must have" for me.  I also found
a lot of gear that does not do this.

Problem 2 is hearing the DX.  I can hear him/her fine because their TX QRG
is (relatively) clear.  Due to good timing, good luck, good TX QRG -
whatever - he happened to pick my call out of the din.  Now the problem
becomes - *I* need to hear him.  Many strong signals close by/on the same
frequency, and I need to pick out a weak signal out of that, and hope to
have a good contact.  Again, high end gear helps, but there are limits to
what it can do.  Low end/older gear?  Good luck with that!

Problem 3 is we have been doing things this way for as long as I have been
a ham.  Learning this "new" way is not going to be easy.

Add it all up, and it seems like a non-starter to me...

Tom - VE3CX



On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Anthony (N2KI) <n2ki.ham@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree.  It certainly is worth a try.  Anything is better than the mayhwm
> that exists now.  I worked FT5ZM tonight for the first time on 20cw and 40
> USB.  Need the RTTY contacts.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony (N2KI)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Bill Turner <dezrat1242@wildblue.net>
> wrote:
>
> > ORIGINAL MESSAGE:          (may be snipped)
> >
> > On 2/3/2014 1:42 PM, Anthony (N2KI) wrote:
> >
> >> How do you prevent the "slim" from coming back to you on your frequency
> >> as the DX station?  That will be the next problem.  Just a thought.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Anthony (N2KI)
> >>
> >
> > REPLY:
> >
> > That problem already exists. I've heard the slim call on the DX
> frequency,
> > pretending to be him. You usually can tell a difference in the signal,
> > either strength and QSB, format of the reply, or on CW, speed. I'd have a
> > macro that says QRT LID or words to that effect.
> >
> > Keep in mind the advantages:  No jammers on the DX frequency, no
> > interference from guys who forget to go split  and no cops with their UP
> UP
> > UP. Even if the slim is jamming someone, it's only ONE station instead of
> > jamming the DX for everybody.
> >
> >
> > 73, Bill W6WRT
> >
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