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Re: [CQ-Contest] Visalia

To: "Kevin J. Rowett" <krowett@rowett.org>,<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Visalia
From: "Jim Neiger" <n6tj@sbcglobal.net>
Reply-to: Jim Neiger <n6tj@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:59:41 -0700
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Having frequented Visalia, which we used to know as Fresno, 37 of the years 
since 1965, I have NO CLUE as to what N6RCE is complaining about.

Visalia is/was formally the annual joint meeting of the Northern and 
Southern California DX clubs.  Forty years ago, 90% of the attendees were in 
those clubs, and a real happy time had by all.

Then it became known as the International DX Convention, and many visitors 
started coming from virtually all continents and ham radio persuasions.

And contestors were made to feel welcome, and Visalia now hosts a Friday 
night contesting banquet, a Saturday afternoon contest forum, contest beer 
suites, etc.

And a nice compact room, in the main convention hotel, for exhibitors.

One can do Visalia, and never leave the hotel.  But if they choose to drive 
5 miles to central Visalia, they will find a very nice city, good 
restaurants, and feel "safe".

The Visalia convention this year, and increasingly so, was populated by many 
from outside of California, and obviously it has become a favorite place to 
go in April.

 Many of the top DXers and contesters from world-wide show at Visalia every 
year.  I  had the privilege of first meeting KH6IJ, K3ZO, W6AM, W6RR (and 
many other Southern California DXers/Contesters),  OH1RY,  and OH2BH,  at 

Again, I have NO CLUE as to what N6RCE is talking about, but probably he has 
already volunteered to make 2006 Visalia even better.

Jim Neiger  N6TJ  ZD8Z

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin J. Rowett" <krowett@rowett.org>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Visalia

> Visalia needs help.
> 73, de -KR- N6RCE
> PS - can you turn your MIC gain down a bit?  10 pt, even 12 pt is fine. 
> 14 pt isn't needed,
> takes up too much spectrum.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: N7MAL [mailto:N7MAL@CITLINK.NET]
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 1:06 AM
> To: Kevin J. Rowett; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dayton and the forum issues
> Lets take a step back in history. At one time there was a West Coast 
> hamfest held in Las Vegas, it was called SAROC. You talk about
> politics, whiners, and complainers it had them all. I was an exhibitor at 
> the last SAROC, in the 70's, and I was also an exhibitor
> that same year at Dayton. Dayton is still alive and reasonably healthy 
> while SAROC is long gone dead and buried.
> My point being the whiners and complainers and rumor mongers ruined SAROC. 
> Instead of being positive and helpful the whiners and
> complainers and rumor mongers got on their various soapboxes demanding a 
> boycott  and killed the hamfest.
> It sounds like Dayton needs a little tweaking to fix things not a bunch of 
> threats or a bunch of criticism. From almost every
> report, I hear, Visalia doesn't need any help.
> Suggesting boycotting is what killed SAROC and boycotting will kill 
> Dayton. If you have suggestions for improving Dayton or Visalia
> why not contact them directly and make your ideas known. Keep in mind 
> most-likely Dayton was around before you were a ham, so start
> out small and with respect.
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