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Re: [CQ-Contest] Visalia

To: "Jim Neiger" <n6tj@sbcglobal.net>,"Kevin J. Rowett" <krowett@rowett.org>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Visalia
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 04:48:11 -0000
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Even though Jim needs no help from me I totally second and am in total 
agreement. N6RCE said:""International DX Convention in Visalia - totally 
politics!"". I would like to know what he is referring to. I am unable to 
attend functions any longer but have chatted with many guys on the air since 
Visalia and no one, not one guy, has had anything bad to say. I chatted briefly 
with Don, VK3DZ(ed)M,(now SK), and have heard Martti, and others, on the air. 
These guys are/were prominent DX'ers who traveled 1/2 way around the world to 
attend Visalia. I heard no complaints, only compliments.
If you are looking for good socializing, really good BS'ing, 807's, and thrown 
in for good measure some ham-radio activities then Visalia is for you. 
If you are looking for the skies to open and give you some sort-of Imperial 
revelation then Visalia, Dayton, or any gathering of hams probably will never 
satisfy you. Visalia and Dayton provide everything for a really good weekend of 
ham-radio fun. You have 2 choices: You can make the best of it and have a 
really good weekend or you can 'knit-pick' and have a lousy weekend.
I prefer to make the best of it, and have in the past.

MAL             N7MAL

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim Neiger 
  To: Kevin J. Rowett ; cq-contest@contesting.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 22:59
  Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Visalia

  Having frequented Visalia, which we used to know as Fresno, 37 of the years 
  since 1965, I have NO CLUE as to what N6RCE is complaining about.

  Visalia is/was formally the annual joint meeting of the Northern and 
  Southern California DX clubs.  Forty years ago, 90% of the attendees were in 
  those clubs, and a real happy time had by all.

  Then it became known as the International DX Convention, and many visitors 
  started coming from virtually all continents and ham radio persuasions.

  And contestors were made to feel welcome, and Visalia now hosts a Friday 
  night contesting banquet, a Saturday afternoon contest forum, contest beer 
  suites, etc.

  And a nice compact room, in the main convention hotel, for exhibitors.

  One can do Visalia, and never leave the hotel.  But if they choose to drive 
  5 miles to central Visalia, they will find a very nice city, good 
  restaurants, and feel "safe".

  The Visalia convention this year, and increasingly so, was populated by many 
  from outside of California, and obviously it has become a favorite place to 
  go in April.

   Many of the top DXers and contesters from world-wide show at Visalia every 
  year.  I  had the privilege of first meeting KH6IJ, K3ZO, W6AM, W6RR (and 
  many other Southern California DXers/Contesters),  OH1RY,  and OH2BH,  at 

  Again, I have NO CLUE as to what N6RCE is talking about, but probably he has 
  already volunteered to make 2006 Visalia even better.

  Jim Neiger  N6TJ  ZD8Z

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Kevin J. Rowett" <krowett@rowett.org>
  To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
  Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Visalia

  > Visalia needs help.
  > 73, de -KR- N6RCE
  > PS - can you turn your MIC gain down a bit?  10 pt, even 12 pt is fine. 
  > 14 pt isn't needed,
  > takes up too much spectrum.
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: N7MAL [mailto:N7MAL@CITLINK.NET]
  > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 1:06 AM
  > To: Kevin J. Rowett; cq-contest@contesting.com
  > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dayton and the forum issues
  > Lets take a step back in history. At one time there was a West Coast 
  > hamfest held in Las Vegas, it was called SAROC. You talk about
  > politics, whiners, and complainers it had them all. I was an exhibitor at 
  > the last SAROC, in the 70's, and I was also an exhibitor
  > that same year at Dayton. Dayton is still alive and reasonably healthy 
  > while SAROC is long gone dead and buried.
  > My point being the whiners and complainers and rumor mongers ruined SAROC. 
  > Instead of being positive and helpful the whiners and
  > complainers and rumor mongers got on their various soapboxes demanding a 
  > boycott  and killed the hamfest.
  > It sounds like Dayton needs a little tweaking to fix things not a bunch of 
  > threats or a bunch of criticism. From almost every
  > report, I hear, Visalia doesn't need any help.
  > Suggesting boycotting is what killed SAROC and boycotting will kill 
  > Dayton. If you have suggestions for improving Dayton or Visalia
  > why not contact them directly and make your ideas known. Keep in mind 
  > most-likely Dayton was around before you were a ham, so start
  > out small and with respect.
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