I'm with Bob, one standard is enough. I wonder what sort of chaos
would result on the Air Traffic freqs if pilots used their own
personal favourite phonetic instead of the standard ones.
To me it seems that the real problem is the pronunciations used by
the transmitting operator, as well as, how the receiving operator
perceives and expects a letter to sound like, eg. likes he/she
himself/herself pronounces it.
The ZL Callbook and the ARRL Handbook for instance, contain guide-
lines on phonetics pronunciation for English speakers, and would
imagine other publications contain guide-lines for other language
speakers.
Buy hey, what would I know, I've just about given up on SSB contests,
and now stick to CW & RTTY contests :-)
73, Frank, ZL4BR, that's
ZOO-loo LEE-mah FO-wer BRAH-voh ROW-me-oh
On 2 Nov 2005 at 8:54, Bob Naumann - W5OV wrote:
>
> Eric,
>
> Standardization is the key, and we don't need to re-invent the wheel here.
>
> The ICAO phonetics are fine, and the reason you had trouble with using
> "Golf" is because whoever you were working doesn't know the standard.
>
> There's no reason that you can't use something different if you're having
> trouble with getting the standard phonetic across due to QRM, QRN, QSB, etc.
>
>
> None of them could be mistaken for any other phonetic - presuming you are
> hearing well enough to know what is being said.
>
> But please, let's continue to use the ICAO standard, and educate people what
> the standard is.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob W5OV
>
> Reference:
>
> http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/FSS/fss1401.htm
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Hilding [mailto:dx35@hilding.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 6:16 AM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Phonetics
>
> It is obvious that Phonetics are a pain-in-the-butt for a lot of contesters.
> Whoever came up with the "official" list must have been a golfer. "Golf"
> simply sucks...I found this out during Field Day with our local club
> (W6GGF). After wayyyy too many people NOT getting the callsign correctly, I
> reverted to the time-proven use of "GERMANY" from my old DXing days, and had
> no further problems.
>
> Here's a concept...
>
> Why don't WE as contesters come up with a UCP (list of "Universal CONTESTER
> Phonetics") that can solve most of the problems? Contest Sponsors can
> publish them along with their event rules.
>
> Yes, more than one syllable phonetics will slow down an exchange, but much
> less, IMHO, than the wasted time asking for multiple repeats.
>
> One person reported a problem with "Mike". I don't think I have ever heard
> anyone have a problem with "MEXICO"...or DENMARK...or AMERICA, etc.
>
> WE have an opportunity to improve things...if WE want to.
>
> Regardless of any changes, after reflecting on last weekend's CQ WW SSB, I
> think *some* "DX" SSB ops need to slowwwwwwwww down their verbalization of
> ***ANY*** phonetics if they want to be understood (especially those with
> H-E-A-V-Y accents).
>
> 73...
>
> Rick, K6VVA
>
>
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