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Re: [CQ-Contest] Self-spotting explanation from CQWW blog

To: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self-spotting explanation from CQWW blog
From: DXer <hfdxmonitor@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 15:20:54 -0400
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Hi Kelly,

Very simple: unassisted means you can't receive spots, not that you can't send 
them.

Ok...I thought it applied both ways. That's a problem right there, I think. Half-duplex assisted or unassisted.

Self-spotting restrictions aren't limited to unassisted, they apply to all.

Yes...my previous message was about self-spotting being allowed for all assisted participants. It's about 'big' assistance, and the eventual demise of the cluster. :^))

73 de Vince, VA3VF


73, kelly, ve4xt



Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 17, 2017, at 13:32, DXer <hfdxmonitor@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Kelly,

My message was not clear on what I was commenting. I meant the act of 
self-spotting, not skimmer. Although skimmer could be considered 'passive' 
self-spotting, I guess.

If you are unassisted, why is self-spotting even considered? It should not even 
be possible, or you are not unassisted.

73 de Vince, VA3VF

On 2017-04-17 2:23 PM, Kelly Taylor wrote:



Again, if the decision was to participate in the unassisted category, why is 
self-spotting or not an issue. Unassisted means no access to the benefits of 
spotting, sent or received, self or otherwise.

Not quite: you have no control over whether someone unrelated to your operation 
(or on CW, Skimmer) spots you, so your being spotted in that way doesn't affect 
your unassisted status. If it were otherwise, there could be zero, or very few, 
who still qualify as unassisted at contest end. Nearly everyone gets spotted.

It's when you or your designate spots you in an effort to boost your score does 
it become a rules issue.

73, kelly, ve4xt



As for internet access or not, I believe the RF based cluster still exist in 
some places. It may not be as common as in years past, but if available, it 
cannot be ignored by the rules.

73 de Vince, VA3VF
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