Living in the city, surrounded by overhead power lines, etc., I'm
certainly an alligator on 160, as well as 80. I rarely call CQ on
those bands in DX contests, but do when it's productive. I'm sure there
are many callers I can't hear, but I only call CQ when the rate is
decent and I've worked all the other stations I can find in S&P mode.
(For that matter, I don't even operate if the rate isn't decent.) I know
that frustrates some of the callers, but what can I do?
I do agree that it's unfair to tie up a frequency calling CQ endlessly
when it takes 5 minutes to make a new contact.
73,
Scott K9MA
On 2/24/2020 06:49, Edward Sawyer wrote:
Shouldn't you be equally lower in signal strength on the 4 square as your
ability to hear callers from the west? Not an alligator?
In my case, I have a bi-directional array pointing NE/SW and I also have the
ability to listen with 2 beverages pointing in the 2 directions, switching out
one once hearing a weaker station.
I think the bigger issue is the amount of QRM east of the Mississippi from 00 -
07Z (East Coast plus Europe) vs the West coast during that time. So similarly
to me hearing an EU station in broad daylight on 80M or 160M 30 - 90 mins
before sunset. I can hear them perfectly, but they never respond back. My
noise floor is S0 at that time. Who know what the EU station is hearing.
The point situation is a bigger discussion. The contest isn't a QSO party,
it's a DX contest. So of course DX (as defined normally) should count more
(insert the usual distance based scoring dialog here). There are other
contests - like Stew Perry - where DX is defined differently. However you
define it, you are not going to beat the coastal stations on 160M.
Ed N1UR
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Hellooooo W6/W7 !!!
The CQ 160M contest scoring is so skewed to favoring W1/W2/W3 --> EU Q's, there
is no reason to change the 160M 4 SQ from pointing NE. All that
is needed is a single CA/OR/WA QSO for the mult, the rest are 2 point Q's
compared to a 10 point EU Q. Of course I can barely hear you, I am just
hoping another 10 point DL or F calls me!
The lowly W6/W7 stations are -20+db off the back of the 4 square, maybe I can
hear you, maybe not. Who cares, you will still work me after EU sunrise.
At that time I will point my 4 square +/- beverages to the West.
I have been there done that, go look at K1A on QRZ.com.
If you have some concerns, write to Hicksville, NY, I am sure they will listen
and be sympathetic
The only fair contest would be 1 point Q's X mults. A W5/6/7/9/0 might win.
(((GASP)))
73, Bill KO7SS in Tucson, AZ
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