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Re: [TenTec] [Fwd: Line Isolator Balun (sorta) question.]

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] [Fwd: Line Isolator Balun (sorta) question.]
From: Richards <jruing@ameritech.net>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 15:19:19 -0400
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Hi Jim.... I am working my way through your piece, and getting the
drift that clamp-on ferrite beads do not typically hurt me, but unless I have A LOT of them, they won't help much (if at all).

I did like this quote (taken slightly out of context, of course...) :

        Receiving Antennas benefit significantly from the addition
        of a common mode choke to isolate the antenna from its
        feed line. Both ends of the RG6 feed line to each of my
        Beverages takes 8 turns through one of the Big Clamp-Ons.

And yet, if I read your Figure 35 on page 26 correctly (unlikely, but I will try, anyway...) it seems to say one needs A LOT of ferrite beads to make a substantial difference - on, say 40-10 meters, even more on lower bands - but the chart indicates numbers tested were like 20 and 40 beads... and if those are the typical 1/2 inch long beads (or the .19" beads mentioned int he text), then it seems one needs just 20-25 inches of beads to have some meaningful impact / effect. THAT seems tolerable if one was going to use clamp-on beads - as did W0IYH using a string of clamp-on beads on his 10M antennas - with good effect (acknowledging he preferred them over other types for convenience and specific reasons associated to a phased cabling already in place...)

So, they seem to have some positive effect - BUT AM I CORRECT THAT THEY HAVE NO SIGNIFICANT DELETERIOUS OR HARMFUL EFFECTS if placed on the coax near the feed point?

I am especially interested in whether or not they might have more or better impact on a receiving antenna than on one I transmit with. I use several receive only antennas, and anything to lower noise thereon is a bonus. I would anticipate they would be more benign in a receive only setting than on a transmit - receive setting.

Any traction?   Or just wasting my time.

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On 8/8/2010 1:05 PM, Jim Brown K9YC wrote:

benefit from reading my tutorial on coaxial chokes. Dissipation can be
made quite small if you make R large enough, and, as it turns out, it's
easy (and inexpensive) to do that if you understand the materials.

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

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