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Re: [VHFcontesting] rules

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] rules
From: "Tom Staley" <k9tms@mindspring.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:20:46 -0600
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You know all this rules questioning is kind of like doing your taxes. It
seems there are those that just have to find every loop hole and try to
exploit it. If you are wondering if you are in violation of the rules after
reading them most likely you maybe in some way. 

The only thing that would make it easier would be if all of the rules for a
given contest were in one site or document, not 2 or 3. 

73
Tom - K9TMS

-----Original Message-----
From: vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Zack Widup
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 1:44 PM
To: VHFcontesting@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] rules


It seems like there are always going to be a few people who try to cheat 
at any endeavor.  My sister is a college math teacher.  She's caught 
several cheaters in her classes over the last few years.  She could only 
guess at the percentage that actually cheat and don't get caught. 
Hopefully it's small.

In ham radio, where cheating doesn't result in such mean consequences as, 
say, in The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand, it just seems like a hollow victory 
to me. I just am not the type of person who could be proud of a victory I 
got by cheating.

But I don't know how you could always enforce it, either.  Maybe the cases 
of using pingjockey or logging onto a packet node can be identified, but 
what about the more obscure rules like power level?  You couldn't prove 
another station was running more power than what they're reporting unless 
you actually went to their stations or they told someone. You could only 
be suspicious.

When I'm Single-Op Portable, I invite some of the local hams to come up 
and see my site if they're willing to drive out there.  I always enjoy 
visitors and I don't have anything to hide.

And as a result I think I enjoy the victories I did have.

73, Zack W9SZ

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Gregg Seidl wrote:

>    Seems like we go thru this every couple of months.If someone want to
win
> so bad that they will cheat to do it,I say let them.If you like the vast
> majority just get on to have fun and work some new grids and get the dust
> off the equipment who really cares.
>    There is NO I repeat NO way to make scoring fair for everyone.Those in
> high ham areas will ALWAYS have an advantage.Its kinda bad here in
> mid-central Wisconsin,I can't think what is must be like in middle of
North
> Dakota.I also would love to hear what the bands sounds like from WMA or
WNY
> or NNJ.
>    Thats just the way it is.Doesn't mean you can't have a ton of fun.
> Gregg K9KL  still more cows then people here
>
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