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Re: [Amps] Building an Amp 101

To: "Al Kozakiewicz" <akozak@hourglass.com>, "MU 4CX250B" <4cx250b@miamioh.edu>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Building an Amp 101
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 11:05:30 -0500
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There is no logic in using vacuum relays in place of a bandswitch in a ham amp at 2500-3200V or so. The senior Ameritrons certainly dont have a blown bandswitch reputation even at 3200V.

If an amp arcs then fix the problem with some engineering and not mask it with brute force or no personal experience.

Carl
KM1H




----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Kozakiewicz" <akozak@hourglass.com>
To: "MU 4CX250B" <4cx250b@miamioh.edu>
Cc: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] Building an Amp 101


To make it clear, I've never tried this so I'm not speaking from personal experience.

But it seems logical to me that if a vacuum relay is required for the voltages and duty involved, then a bandswitch is out of the question as well, isn't it? My thought is that, putting aside questions around stray-L that might arise from the insertion of a relay, it's easier to find a relay with sufficient contact spacing than it is to find a bandswitch with a large enough diameter to maintain the same spacing between contact elements.

I guess these sorts of problems is why it's called engineering and not science!

Al
AB2ZY

-----Original Message-----
From: MU 4CX250B [mailto:4cx250b@miamioh.edu]
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:32 AM
To: Al Kozakiewicz
Cc: amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Building an Amp 101

Relays are certainly a possibility, Al, but for a nine band amplifier things get a bit complicated. My latest project ( 90% completed) is a duo - band 80m/160m amplifier with a pi- L tank circuit, and for that I am using two DPDT vacuum relays, each of which cost over $100. Scaling that up to a nine band amplifier doesn't seem very practical or cost-effective.
73,
Jim w8zr
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On Jan 18, 2014, at 8:52 AM, Al Kozakiewicz <akozak@hourglass.com> wrote:

Why not use relays appropriate for the switching duty? Then the bandswitch can be just about anything or even remotely controlled. Plus you can locate the switch where it's convenient to operate instead of being constrained by the necessity to place it close to the RF components.

Al
AB2ZY
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