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Re: [CQ-Contest] RST?

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RST?
From: VE3FH via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: VE3FH <ve3fh@yahoo.ca>
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2023 21:59:29 +0000 (UTC)
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 I think you're spot on with that comment, to me the 5NN in a CW contest serves 
the same function as the seven-byte preamble in an Ethernet frame. I'm lost 
without a 5NN and it took me a while to get used to the "ENN" some "NASCAR ops" 
send at 45wpm to save a microsecond or two.
I actually gave up on the Stew Perry because the lack of 5NN made it 
frustrating to copy the grid 
73,Julio VE3FH

    On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 09:09:24 a.m. EST, Mike Ritz 
<w7vo@comcast.net> wrote:  
 
 RST still has value as a “notifier” in that what follows is what really 
matters, the exchange. With CW, your brain gets into the rhythm of 5NN, and 
makes it easier to decide what follows. It’s even better in RTTY, as if your 
decoder gets the 599 correct, chances are the exchange may be OK too.

73;
Mike
W7VO 

Sent from my iPhone, utilizing  a very tiny keyboard fed from very fat fingers

> On Nov 16, 2023, at 5:40 PM, JIM STAHL via CQ-Contest 
> <cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> As I suggested a while back, “5NN” is now a cut number for “Please Copy “
> 
> 73  -  Jim  K8MR
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2023, at 7:57 PM, w1rm@comcast.net wrote:
>> 
>> I've been a ham since 1956 and worked more than my share of contests.  For
>> as long as forever, RST was an integral part of the qso and exchange.  In
>> days gone by, RST had value, especially the R and T values.  If you had a
>> crappy signal, T was a way to alert the op of that.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> But, fast forward to today, when was the last time you got anything but 599?
>> If you got 227 how would you react?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Signal reports are available through RBN for strength, to see if a band is
>> open, etc., but if you are single op, unassisted, I'm not sure you can even
>> use that.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So, does RST still have value?  Is it time to retire it?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Pete Chamalian, W1RM
>> 
>> 
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