Norm
When I do the calcs at 11Mb the theoretical number should be about
-73dBm at the laptop and -77dBm at the AP. Hmm Give me the lat/long and
antenna heights I want to run an path profile using RF software I have,
on the link and see what I come up with ;)
When you say LOS, how are you verify good fresnel zone clearance??
Sincerely
Tony Morella
Demarc Technology Group
Office: 908-996-7995
Cell: 908-246-9170
Fax: 908-847-0202
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-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
On Behalf Of Norm Young
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:13 AM
To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] PRISM II 100mW card and Karlnet TC V4.02
Hi Tony, certainly.
The results I reported before swapping the PRISM II card out of the PtMP
side were in this environment:
AP->1000, two cards slotted, one Orinoco Gold card (backhaul), one PRISM
AP->II
card (PtMP) running TC in both slots, PtMP in Base Station mode. The
PtMP setup is 1' pigtail, into lightning arrestor, then 20' of LMR-400
into a 90*, 15dB gain Superpass sector located some 25' AGL, and the
WPOP at 4800' AMSL. The "client" side was a laptop, Orinoco card, WinXP
Home running TC driver for XP, 4' pigtail into a 24dB PacWireless grid
parabolic, all
vertical polarization. The antenna was mounted on a surplus camera
tripod
about 1.5' AGL, and a typical site was right around 1200' AMSL at a
distance
of 7.6miles. Excellent LOS.
The results were:
Laptop AP
SNR 21dB 2dB
Signal -80dBm -101dBm
Noise -98dBm -102dBm
As you can see, the recieved signal at the laptop was good, but still
didn't meet specs...should have been -67.684 dBm according to
Ecommwireless SOM page. Either the sector was not aligned correctly (it
has a vertical -3dB beamwidth of 8*) or there's something askew in the
connectors, antenna, coax, etc.
Norm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony " <tonylist@wwwbiz.com>
To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] PRISM II 100mW card and Karlnet TC V4.02
> Norm
>
> Can you please confirm you WPOP and client side setup. Antennas,
> cable lengths etc, as you know the link is bi-directional as such both
> directions need to be with in spec on TX and RX to operate properly.
>
> Sincerely
> Tony Morella
> Demarc Technology Group
> Office: 908-996-7995
> Cell: 908-246-9170
> Fax: 908-847-0202
> email: tony@demarctech.com
> http://www.demarctech.com
> Wireless Solution Provider
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> On Behalf Of Norm Young
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 5:55 PM
> To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] PRISM II 100mW card and Karlnet TC V4.02
>
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> Yes indeed, it's running Karlnet TC. What made me think that the
> information can be trusted (after initially thinking otherwise) is
> that in areas that I'd previously with the Orinoco radio had a link
> (not necessarily a good one) I got nothing, in that (I think) the link
> from the laptop back to the AP was down to nothing (even though the
> signal from AP->laptop was quite good). The reason I think this,is
> that in the areas where I had a link (but a receive S/N = 2
> laptop->AP), the link would keep dropping (probably when the signal
> would fade). I don't know for sure, but it doesn't look just like a
> reporting error (as I had hoped).
>
> Norm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony " <tonylist@wwwbiz.com>
> To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] PRISM II 100mW card and Karlnet TC V4.02
>
>
> > Norm
> >
> > Just to confirm, all the numbers you are reporting where from
> > Karlnet TurboCell correct?? If this is the case, Doug (KN) has
> > report to me that all the Prism cards report back in the same way
> > and that the information can not always be trussed. They are looking
> > into this and I will update you as I know more.
> >
> > Did you notices a difference in performance?
> >
> > Sincerely
> > Tony Morella
> > Demarc Technology Group
> > Office: 908-996-7995
> > Cell: 908-246-9170
> > Fax: 908-847-0202
> > email: tony@demarctech.com
> > http://www.demarctech.com
> > Wireless Solution Provider
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> > [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Norm Young
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:09 PM
> > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] PRISM II 100mW card and Karlnet TC V4.02
> >
> >
> > Yes, please, is anyone else deploying this card with Karlnet TC?
> > I'd love for the problem to be other than this card, as I really,
> > really need that output power.
> >
> > I'm really surprised at the receive sensitivity being so depressed.
> > The noise reported is -102dBm on the PRISM II card, and the signal
> > is reported at -101dB and the local signal reported at the laptop
> > (Orinoco card, 24dB parabolic, 4' pigtail, Karlnet TC running on XP)
> > is -80dBm, noise @ -99dBm,
> > S/N=19 dB, distance 7.5mi from AP, good LOS, no obstructions. The
AP
> > is an
> > AP-1000, two radios slotted, one Orinoco on CH6 as a backhaul
> > running into a horizontally polarized 24dB parabolic, the other, the
> > PRISM II 100mW card as the PtMP on CH11 running into a 90 degree,
> > vertical polarized 15dB sector, running TC v4.02.
> >
> > Norm
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan Metcalf" <danm@suncorstainless.com>
> > To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 11:24 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] PRISM II 100mW card and Karlnet TC V4.02
> >
> >
> > > Anybody else see this?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dan Metcalf
> > > Wireless Broadband Systems
> > > dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com
> > > 781-658-2075
> > > www.wirelessbroadbandsystems.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Norm Young [mailto:npyoung@applegatebroadband.net]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:29 PM
> > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] PRISM II 100mW card and Karlnet TC V4.02
> > >
> > > I'm going to pull this PRISM II 100mW card, as I've discovered
> > > that the reporting of the signal strength at the AP (PRISM II,
> > > Karlnet
> > > TC)
> > is
> > > accurate---and extremely low. I'm seeing signal strengths that
are
> a
> > good
> > > 10dB below what they were with the Orinoco radio in place and all
> > > other factors equal/similar. The transmit power is as expected,
> > > 5dB
>
> > > above the Orinoco radios, but the receive sensitivity is, to say
> > > the
>
> > > least, very disappointing.
> > >
> > > I'll report the findings with the Orinoco radio slotted, and
> > > perhaps
>
> > > it
> > will
> > > reveal some other factor is at work, but for now, the PRISM II
> > > card is
> >
> > > a
> > dud
> > > on the receive sensitivity side. (Also the crash on reboot
> > > "feature".)
> > >
> > >
> > > Norm
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tony " <tonylist@wwwbiz.com>
> > > To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:39 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] PRISM II 100mW card and Karlnet TC V4.02
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dong
> > > >
> > > > You have this card! Its the one we sent you for testing :)
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely
> > > > Tony Morella
> > > > Demarc Technology Group
> > > > Office: 908-996-7995
> > > > Cell: 908-246-9170
> > > > Fax: 908-847-0202
> > > > email: tony@demarctech.com
> > > > http://www.demarctech.com
> > > > Wireless Solution Provider
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> > > > [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > > > On Behalf Of Support
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 1:18 PM
> > > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] PRISM II 100mW card and Karlnet TC V4.02
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Norm,
> > > >
> > > > We see this problem with some of the higher power radios in the
> > > > AP-1000 and the RG-1000. Those pieces of hardware were made for
> > > > the
> >
> > > > 32mW radios and they will act funny with the 100mW and 200mW
> > > > radios coming out. I have not seen the radio you are using, but
> > > > if
>
> > > > you want
> >
> > > > to send one in for testing we'd be glad to look at it for you.
> > > >
> > > >
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