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Re: [TenTec] RF Ground

To: "Ron Castro" <ronc@sonic.net>, "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] RF Ground
From: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>
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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:08:38 -0500
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I agree Ron.

I believe that 1/2" copper pipe as a bond conductor is adequate for most 
situations.  The 1/2" refrigeration line is soft and flexible and can be 
obtained in 100 ft to 250 ft coils more or less.  It can be flattened to 
about 1 " wide for easy connections.  It's still expensive.

73
Bob, K4TAX




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Castro" <ronc@sonic.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] RF Ground


>I think 18" is overkill.  In the broadcast industry we use 4" strap, which
> considering today's cost of copper is very expensive.
>
>           Ron  N6IE
>       www.N6IE.com
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>
> To: <Gary@doctorgary.net>; "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"
> <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 7:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] RF Ground
>
>
>> Gary:
>>
>> Here's what Jerry had to say and I agree:
>>
>> quote:
>>
>> If you really want lightning and RF grounding, those ground sources need
>> to be connected together with wide  copper strap. 18" is a nice width.
>> Otherwise the inductance is too much to be totally effective.
>>
>> 73, Jerry, K0CQ
>> end quote:
>>
>> The 18" copper strap that Jerry suggests would be nice but would also be 
>> a
>> nice investment today.
>>
>> In my case I use a piece of 1/2" copper refrigeration tubing to
>> connect/bond
>> [actually via CAD WELD} all of my driven grounds.   There's 3 at the base
>> of
>> the tower in a ring and 1 at each corner of the house.  The house has a
>> series of lightning rods across the top.  All of these points are
>> connected
>> together.  Also, the mast out the top of the tower has 2 bonding flexible
>> straps between the mast and the tower sleeve.  This assures that the mast
>> is
>> bonded to the tower and the path is not through my rotor.
>>
>> Yes, in your case, the path between your service ground and your antenna
>> ground is through your station equipment via the coax.  Not good!
>>
>> 73
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>> .
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gary Smith" <Gary@doctorgary.net>
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 5:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] RF Ground
>>
>>
>>> Hi Bob,
>>>
>>> My antennae use the same radial field of 60 or so 130' radials. The
>>> radial plate is 360' from the house. The only connection between the
>>> house and the radial field is via the coax shield. Are you suggesting
>>> I run a length of additional wire from one of the radials to the
>>> grounding point of the service entrance ground rod?
>>>
>>> Gary, KA1J
>>>
>>>> As to having a RF ground,  a ground radial system below your antenna is
>>>> the
>>>> reference point for that antenna.  Several antennas can share the same
>>>> radial system.  Also that radial system must be bonded back to the
>>>> service
>>>> entrance ground.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Bob, K4TAX
>>>
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