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Re: [TenTec] RF Ground

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] RF Ground
From: "Gary Hoffman" <ghoffman@spacetech.com>
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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:33:37 -0400
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Apropos of this, I use 1 inch OD soft copper refrigeration tubing for my ground connections also. It is quite available and (relatively) inexpensive. I order rolls of it from McMaster Carr, but your local refrigeration shop will have it too.

In my case I also permanently attach the tubing directly to the grounding points in question, (welding) and make runs as short as possible.

For example, the main RF ground is just outside my (separate) shack building, and almost directly under it. My tubing runs from the single point ground bar located 4 inches behind my rig on the wall, and goes straight down through the floor to the outside ground point. Maybe 3.5 feet total length. There is also an outdoor grounding connection plate located right there just above the dirt, through which coax cables are brought and thus bonded to ground. Those can also be disconnected outdoors, on the "shack side" of this plate.

The outside RF "central" ground I have constructed is then bonded (outside) to all my other grounds, including power system, telephone and cable system, the grounds at the base of the tower, the grounds at the base of the vertical and so forth and so on. None of that comes indoors. All of these bonds are either refrigeration tubing, or for the longer runs, very heavy copper wire. Of course these bonds are safety bonds only.

My RF ground refrigeration tube, being 3.5 feet long is barely more than 1 meter in length (obviously) which makes it an excellent performer. Useful even on the 10 meter band, where it is still only very roughly 0.1 wavelength long.

73 de Gary, AA2IZ


----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net> To: <Gary@doctorgary.net>; "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] RF Ground


Gary:

Here's what Jerry had to say and I agree:

quote:

If you really want lightning and RF grounding, those ground sources need
to be connected together with wide  copper strap. 18" is a nice width.
Otherwise the inductance is too much to be totally effective.

73, Jerry, K0CQ
end quote:

The 18" copper strap that Jerry suggests would be nice but would also be a
nice investment today.

In my case I use a piece of 1/2" copper refrigeration tubing to connect/bond [actually via CAD WELD} all of my driven grounds. There's 3 at the base of
the tower in a ring and 1 at each corner of the house.  The house has a
series of lightning rods across the top. All of these points are connected
together.  Also, the mast out the top of the tower has 2 bonding flexible
straps between the mast and the tower sleeve. This assures that the mast is
bonded to the tower and the path is not through my rotor.

Yes, in your case, the path between your service ground and your antenna
ground is through your station equipment via the coax.  Not good!

73
Bob, K4TAX

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Smith" <Gary@doctorgary.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 5:05 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] RF Ground


Hi Bob,

My antennae use the same radial field of 60 or so 130' radials. The
radial plate is 360' from the house. The only connection between the
house and the radial field is via the coax shield. Are you suggesting
I run a length of additional wire from one of the radials to the
grounding point of the service entrance ground rod?

Gary, KA1J

As to having a RF ground,  a ground radial system below your antenna is
the
reference point for that antenna.  Several antennas can share the same
radial system.  Also that radial system must be bonded back to the
service
entrance ground.

73
Bob, K4TAX

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