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Re: [TenTec] Orion resets at every power up

To: "'N4PY2'" <n4py2@earthlink.net>, "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion resets at every power up
From: "Martin Sole" <hs0zed@csloxinfo.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 22:19:55 +0700
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DSP/CPU board, U501, Yellow oblong, ST device marked C996160215,
M4T28-BR12SH1, Timekeeper Snaphat Lithium Battery.
Looks like it's plugged in to a 16 pin DIL holder designed to be mounted SMD
style.

Now to find it in the schematics. Unlikely I can find a source locally if it
should turn out to be the problem.

BTW, checked the 5 volt supply and it measures 5.06 volts at the output of
the regulator board so I guess that is okay.

Martin, HS0ZED


-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of N4PY2
Sent: 16 October 2010 22:08
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion resets at every power up

That's definitely not the case.  I just can't remember exactly where the
battery is located.

Carl Moreschi N4PY
121 Little Bell Drive
Hays, NC 28635
www.n4py.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "ROD" <w3krq@dejazzd.com>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion resets at every power up


>I think they are using a chip with a built in battery
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Martin Sole" <hs0zed@csloxinfo.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 10:44 AM
> To: "'N4PY2'" <n4py2@earthlink.net>; "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'"
> <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion resets at every power up
>
>> Okay, now I'm really confused! I'm looking at the V2 sweep mod document
>> and
>> have my 565AT in bits in front of me. Cannot for the life of me identify 
>> a
>> battery anywhere on either the document or the hardware on my bench. Huh,
>> what gives? Where exactly is this battery? Lets try and narrow it down to
>> a
>> specific board first:
>> DSP/CPU
>> Display
>> Left side front panel
>> Right side front panel
>>
>> Maybe I'm being dumb here but nothing I can see looks anything like a
>> battery I've ever seen before.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Martin, HS0ZED
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com 
>> [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
>> On Behalf Of N4PY2
>> Sent: 16 October 2010 21:14
>> To: Martin Sole
>> Cc: tentec
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion resets at every power up
>>
>> It's in the front panel of the Orion.  It's a coin cell.  See the
>> description on the tentec website for how to do the version 2 sweep mod.
>> This description shows how to get to the battery.  The battery is what
>> keeps
>> the non-volatile RAM alive.  Changing it should fix your problem.
>>
>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>> 121 Little Bell Drive
>> Hays, NC 28635
>> www.n4py.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Martin Sole" <hs0zed@csloxinfo.com>
>> To: "'N4PY2'" <n4py2@earthlink.net>; "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'"
>> <tentec@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 10:06 AM
>> Subject: RE: [TenTec] Orion resets at every power up
>>
>>
>>> There's a battery? Who'd have thought. I know it says battery failure
>>> when
>>> doing a RAM clear but had assumed (ha) it was just a way of saying that
>>> the
>>> process had taken place. Maybe standard device text.
>>>
>>> So where is the battery? Not on the CPU/DSP board. What is it's 
>>> function?
>>> Which schematic is it on? Coin cell? What expected life? Hopefully
>>> changing
>>> requires no special procedure. Who knows? Questions questions??!!
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Martin, HS0ZED
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
>>> [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
>>> On Behalf Of N4PY2
>>> Sent: 16 October 2010 19:11
>>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion resets at every power up
>>>
>>> There's a battery behind the front panel of the Orion.  It may need to 
>>> be
>>> replaced.  Follow the old instructions on the Tentec site for how to
>>> modify
>>> the Orion for the Version 2 sweep to get to the battery.
>>>
>>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>>> 121 Little Bell Drive
>>> Hays, NC 28635
>>> www.n4py.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Martin Sole" <hs0zed@csloxinfo.com>
>>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 2:10 AM
>>> Subject: [TenTec] Orion resets at every power up
>>>
>>>
>>>> After being able to load software into the radio again, not sure if it
>>>> was
>>>> PC serial port cable or connectors but it's okay now, I'm now seeing
>>>> that
>>>> at
>>>> almost every power cycle the radio does a master reset. The sequence of
>>>> events is as follows:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Radio off
>>>>
>>>> Power up and master reset complete appears
>>>>
>>>> Radio boots but has unusable audio
>>>>
>>>> Power down followed by power up again about 5 seconds later radio 
>>>> starts
>>>> normally
>>>>
>>>> Power off and leave for a short while, sometimes only 20 seconds or so,
>>>> power up again causes master reset
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Needless to say this is frustrating.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> RAM clear and forced master reset do not appear to have helped.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is it a 'known' issue?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Martin, HS0ZED
>>>>
>>>>
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