As has been said, 160 meter FT8 transmissions are all within the audio
bandwidth of an SSB signal on 1840 although technically they could operate
anywhere on the 160 meter band. That said, I've never heard anyone
operate FT8 outside of that slot, and for good reason. However, would the
folks that would call QRL on CW and operate in the middle of that slot,
potentially QRMing many FT8 QSO's in progress be willing to support someone
on FT8 start calling CQ in the middle of the DX window on 160? After all,
they may be wanting to work DX! Yes, that's a silly argument, and I in no
way would suggest anyone do that, but it illustrates a point. It's easy to
look at any mode other than your preferred mode at the time as being QRM,
but their interests are as valid as the next guy's. Then there are the
well-established nets that fire up at a certain time on a certain frequency
that creates the "I was here first" versus the "A lot of folks know to meet
here on this freq at this time" competing interests. Very few of us know
all of the competing interests, so people just need to be gentlemen (and
ladies) and work together to make it a better experience for all.
...Dave - N9FN
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From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 9:58 AM
To: Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell@gmail.com>
Cc: topband <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: FT8 qrm
Yes, you could and should.
It needs to be looked from everyone's point of view.
Of course, that deal falls apart for the 20m sstv guys. They own the
frequency.
Mike
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Well...we could look at who was on first from the CW op's point of
> view just as easily. It just depends on who's ox is being gored. As
> for not listening longer than a few seconds after QRL that is just
> reasonable. Some of us (me for example) listen around for five or ten
> minutes *before* sending QRL. Filters open. Waterfall on (if we have
> them). Nobody in ham radio has been assigned a frequency that 'belongs to
them'.
>
> That said, there are "gentlemen's agreements". Those only apply *if*
> there are gentlemen. The band offers 200 kc of spectrum - at least for
U.S. hams.
> That seems like a great plenty. It's the "Gentlemen's Band" so lets
> get back to being gentlemen and accommodate all of the other gentlemen
> (and ladies too). Maybe we can infect some of the other bands with
> more civility while we are at it.
>
> 73,
>
> Bill KU8H
>
>
> On 11/29/2017 07:59 AM, Michael Walker wrote:
>
>> Tim is correct.
>>
>> Also, when you do operate most digital modes today (FT8, RTTY, JT65,
>> etc), it is 50/50 if you even have the volume turned up as you are
>> focusing on the waterfall. Heck, even when I do RTTY, I usually just
>> watch the cross hairs on the simulated scope since that is the way I grew
with RTTY.
>>
>> The point is that hams own the spectrum and they get to do with it
>> what they choose within the limits of their license. Worldwide.
>>
>> No one makes you use any mode you don't want to. Spin the dial. Move
on.
>> Life is too short.
>>
>> Mike va3mw
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