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Re: [CQ-Contest] Log checking questions

To: Zack Widup <w9sz@prairienet.org>, cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Log checking questions
From: Ed K1EP <k1ep.list@gmail.com>
Reply-to: k1ep.list@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 16:17:50 -0500
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
At 12/19/2005 09:42 AM, Zack Widup wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, Ed K1EP wrote:
>
>> 
>> If I am in a contest that requires serial numbers (or grids, or first 
>> names) and if I work someone, casual or not, I have to put something in 
>> the log.   I can't just make something up.  
>
>Why not?

Because you do not know whether that person will submit a log or not.  If he 
submits a log and you have the exchange wrong, you lose.  You just can't make 
up an exchange and fill your log in with it.   If he is handing out a valid 
exchange for the contest, but still not submitting a log, that exchange can be 
derived by the contest log checkers.  I can not just leave the exchange blank, 
then it is not a valid contest exchange FOR ME.  I don't care if that person 
submits a log or not, I just want my entry to have that QSO.  

>Now, IF the exchange you sent affects the other person's scoring (e.g. 
>giving the wrong state in SS or the wrong grid in VHF contests) I consider 
>that to be unethical.  But if what you're sending (e.g. serial number or 
>name) has no bearing on the other guy's score, it seems irrelevant to me.

Well, the contest log checking can determine if the exchange is unstable if 
that person hasn't submitted a log.  In that case, you aren't penalized.  But 
if that person is using a KW in NAQP, or operated 25 straight hours in SS, or 
didn't QSY in a sprint, I don't care, in the sense that it doesn't affect my 
contest entry.  From my perspective, it was a valid QSO for the contest.  

>I've often considered getting in on a contest that requires serial 
>numbers about an hour after it started and then doing S&P, giving people 
>serial numbers in the thousands, and then not sending in a log. That 
>should raise a few eyebrows!  :-)

People have done that in SS, at least started from a number other than 1.  The 
rules don't state that you have to start with 1, it states that they have to be 
sequential:

4. Exchange: The required exchange consists of: 
4.1. A consecutive serial number; 

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