I was looking into office chairs today and found this interesting note about
office chair ergonomics. Thought you might find it useful.
http://www.tifaq.com/furniture/archive/chairs-apr96-brooks.txt
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Mon Apr 1 00:21:39 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Popkin-Grams lurk!
In-Reply-To: <3CA67B10.720@erols.com>
References: <001601c1d755$bac8d340$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020401002004.02a1a770@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
At 21:57 03/30/02 -0500, Chuck K3FT wrote:
>but they are unique, none the less! :-)
I thought that unique meant rare, etc...
From what I hear these are not by any means rare!
73
Tom K5IID
>From khz at atnet.ru Mon Apr 1 05:48:54 2002
From: khz@atnet.ru (Serg Z. Demidov UA1OMS)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Tx-Rx Offset Standards
Message-ID: <00d001c1d920$dee03120$c4b35250@khz>
I also think that the reason of displacement signals is result of the
Doppler's effect. When I giving CQ almost all of the Japanese stations (from
east) calling a little bit above. In other hands almost all of US guys (from
west) are a little bit lower than my frequency.
73! Serg Z. Demidov UA1OMS
http://www.quadrat.ru/qsl
The all-too-obvious answer is the doppler effect caused by the rotation of
the earth, compressing any signal originating east of the U.S.--or should I
wait until Monday to bring this up?
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Silver Ward
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 11:12 AM
To: CONTEST REFLECTOR
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Tx-Rx Offset Standards
I was wondering if there is a different convention for offset standards.
We're all pretty much using the same radios but it seems unlikely that they
are pre-configured by the manufacturer to use different offsets based on the
target market. It's not much of a difference - maybe 200 Hz - but I find
myself leaving the RIT "up a little" when EU stations are answering my CQs.
How about it, EU guys? Is the converse true - that you have to listen a
little lower in frequency when running USA?
73, Ward N0AX
>From zf2nt at candw.ky Mon Apr 1 03:51:52 2002
From: zf2nt@candw.ky (Bruce B. Sawyer)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Dayton Bathtub
Message-ID: <000d01c1d930$95fb0c40$e575883f@ibm1050257>
>I don't snore, chew (anymore), or go with the girls that do.
Is 1 out of 3 good enough? I've got the same problem K7BG does...I think I
can find my way to Dayton OK (first go to SLC , then follow the sun for the
next three days, right?), but once I get there, then what? Anybody willing
to share a spot on the floor in their Crowne Plaza room? I don't snore, but
can't make any promises about the other two. Will gladly share
expenses...on the room. You gotta pull full freight on the other two,
though.
Bruce, ZF2NT
>From ab0mv at ix.netcom.com Mon Apr 1 09:45:36 2002
From: ab0mv@ix.netcom.com (Merri)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OFF Freq Callers
Message-ID: <Springmail.0994.1017683136.0.37526100@webmail.pas.earthlink.net>
And it seems quite a few people call YLs off frequency regardless of
continent/country.
Merri AB0MV
>From g.m.mcadams at worldnet.att.net Mon Apr 1 10:35:52 2002
From: g.m.mcadams@worldnet.att.net (Gary McAdams)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Message-ID: <00c301c1d9ac$5d282980$7ca2520c@computername>
Hello Guys,
I have a question about the WPX contest.
My call is WG7X and with this call, I always
thought that I would be a popular fellow in
the various WPX contests. This has not
been the case, ever, and I have participated
in quite a few of these tests.
Recent rules changes have made Q's on the
same continent worth at least one point, and
with my WG7 prefix I'm also a multiplier.
During the SSB test, I was S&P'in and many
stations said: Thanks for the mult!" and quite
a few gave me the unsolicited "big signal"
report. (DX and Domestic)
So, given that I have a fairly good signal, and
a weird call, I wonder why I could not get even a
small run going? S&P got me to about 350 q's
(and almost every one a new mult) but I could not
get any answers to my CQ's...
Should I expect to be sought out as a needed
multiplier, or continue to participate in my normal
way in the S&P mode? W7's are literally a dime
a dozen and I've always thought that the WPX offered
myself and others a way to be popular, if only
for a short time.
Thoughts?
Gary, WG7X
>From w8ji at contesting.com Mon Apr 1 16:06:28 2002
From: w8ji@contesting.com (Tom Rauch)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Tx-Rx Offset Standards
In-Reply-To: <00d001c1d920$dee03120$c4b35250@khz>
Message-ID: <3CA88584.1369.44DE010@localhost>
> I also think that the reason of displacement signals is result of the
> Doppler's effect. When I giving CQ almost all of the Japanese stations
> (from east) calling a little bit above. In other hands almost all of
> US guys (from west) are a little bit lower than my frequency.
Hi Sege,
I am not sure if you are serious, but this is the day we have for
jokes in the USA. In case anyone takes that serious, it was not.
The earth could rotate 10,000 miles per second, and there would
be no doppler effect.
Doppler only occurs when the path length is changing, not when
the path is moving but staying exactly the same distance.
It could be more a culture thing, that USA operators listen to lower
pitched tones more often than JA, or vice versa. But it is definitely
not earth rotation. Thank goodness, or WWV frequency standards
would not work, and the AM BC band would be full of heterodynes.
73, Tom W8JI
W8JI@contesting.com
>From tomek at sp5zcc.waw.pl Tue Apr 2 12:00:05 2002
From: tomek@sp5zcc.waw.pl (SP5UAF)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SP DX Contest
Message-ID: <19210028770.20020402120005@sp5zcc.waw.pl>
Hello,
I would like to let you know about SP DX Contest. This year event will
take place during the coming weekend (every year the first weekend of
April).
Please visit SP DX Contest WWW
http://www.sp5zcc.waw.pl/spdxc/
There you can find all necessary information: rules, special awards,
contest logging software, information about Polish awards, result from
previous years etc.
Contest rules are published in many language versions (Polish,
English, German, French, Portuguese, Spanih, Norwich and even
Chinese).
We do hope to meet all of you in the SP DX Contest 2002.
73
Tom SP5UAF
(responsible for SP DX Contest WWW)
>From n4zr at contesting.com Tue Apr 2 08:48:33 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Recording software with AGC
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020402084424.0505e020@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
I've gotten my second shack PC set up, so I'm now prepared to record
contests to disk, but I'm encountering one issue. To record everything
that comes from both radios (2 channels in the Mark 5, one in the TS-930) I
think I need to get the audio in stereo at the headphone jack of my 2-radio
box and then combine the two streams into one recording channel. The
combining is no problem, but if I do that, I will have to contend with
varying audio levels.
I'm wondering if anyone knows of a piece of recording software that
implements AGC, or how others get around this issue?
Thanks!
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Tue Apr 2 14:37:09 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020402133709.012cabe0@pop.vnet.net>
WG7X wrote:
>Should I expect to be sought out as a needed
multiplier, or continue to participate in my normal
way in the S&P mode? W7's are literally a dime
a dozen and I've always thought that the WPX offered
myself and others a way to be popular, if only
for a short time.
Gary, your prefix is rare but not rare enough, hi!
Serious SOAB or SOSB WPX contesters will get ~1000 prefixes
in this contest, so one more prefix will only add 1/1000 or
0.1% to their score. As long as conditions allow running
stations at fairly high rates (say 70 or higher), most guys
will simply run and let the prefix multipliers come to them.
The only time I ever tune for stations in this contest is
when rates drop below what I think is a reasonable rate.
In CQWW or ARRL DX, multipliers are worth much more than in
WPX since there are fewer of them. I'm sure the SO2R guys in
WPX were looking for you, but there were just not enough for
you to notice it.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n5nj at gte.net Tue Apr 2 10:09:31 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (n5nj@gte.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Message-ID: <RELAY2Ky8pnidKrlVKv000011ec@relay2.softcomca.com>
Gary,
The answer to your question is not a simple one. There are many factors that
contribute to a station being heard and able to attract many callers.
I know that I remarked to several stations during this past weekend's contest
that they had great signals - but you have to understand the reference points.
The reference points are those stations barely at the noise level and are very
difficult to copy. At times, a station that you can hear clearly, even if he's
S2 or less can have a "big signal". It's all relative.
Now, look at your station. Are you running an amplifier? What kind of
antennas do you have? Directional? Vertical? Dipoles? Those guys you hear
that are 40 over S9 at your place are running stacked yagis and legal limit
amplifiers. Are you?
Next, are you aware of your surroundings? What I mean here is do you know who
is above & below your frequency? Could they be covering you up and you don't
realize it? Is there a pileup on a nearby frequency that you might not be able
to hear both sides of?
If you don't have one of the big stations and want to get a run going, you must
isolate your signal from all of those big gun stations. To make your signal
stand out, find smaller stations to set up near. This is not as easy to
actually do as it is to describe it here, but the ability to gauge the
surroundings is an acquired skill - you almost have to have a "feel" for what's
going on. You also have to have excellent equipment that is working perfectly.
You receiver must be very sensitive and you have to be able to discern weak
signals. I'm not talking about working weak stations, I'm talking about
hearing what's going on around your chosen frequency.
Think about the above comments, and continue the discussion.
73,
Bob N5NJ
Original Message:
-----------------
From: Gary McAdams g.m.mcadams@worldnet.att.net
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Hello Guys,
I have a question about the WPX contest.
My call is WG7X and with this call, I always
thought that I would be a popular fellow in
the various WPX contests. This has not
been the case, ever, and I have participated
in quite a few of these tests.
Recent rules changes have made Q's on the
same continent worth at least one point, and
with my WG7 prefix I'm also a multiplier.
During the SSB test, I was S&P'in and many
stations said: Thanks for the mult!" and quite
a few gave me the unsolicited "big signal"
report. (DX and Domestic)
So, given that I have a fairly good signal, and
a weird call, I wonder why I could not get even a
small run going? S&P got me to about 350 q's
(and almost every one a new mult) but I could not
get any answers to my CQ's...
Should I expect to be sought out as a needed
multiplier, or continue to participate in my normal
way in the S&P mode? W7's are literally a dime
a dozen and I've always thought that the WPX offered
myself and others a way to be popular, if only
for a short time.
Thoughts?
Gary, WG7X
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 2 07:11:24 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 02Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020402071039.00ad8da0@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 02Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to: (see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(BR)AB LP
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOAB LP
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
K5PI(@W5KFT) 918 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
Operators:
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EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
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N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
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WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 2 07:14:18 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 02Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020402071241.00adba30@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 02Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to: (see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA M/S HP
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
Operators:
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From kl7ra at blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov Tue Apr 2 08:30:43 2002
From: kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov (KL7RA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Message-ID: <03bf01c1da6c$1ede68e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
Gary writes:
>My call is WG7X and with this call, I always
>thought that I would be a popular fellow in
>the various WPX contests. This has not
>been the case, ever, and I have participated
>in quite a few of these tests.
Hi Gary
The problem is the WPX is a rate contest and most of
the serious stations are calling CQ. The other problem
is there are a lot of prefixes in this contest so the single
op has little incentive to search them out.
Here's what to do:
Wait until late Sunday to operate. If no other WG7 prefix
has been active you will be swapped by the M/M, M/S
stations after the first spot. And they will be loud, tired
and hungry.
Good luck.
73 Rich KL7RA
>From n2mg at contesting.com Tue Apr 2 10:30:37 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OFF Freq Callers
Message-ID:
<20020402103038.20183.c002-h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
I think many of them get flustered at the prospect of
actually talking to a girl!
73 Mike N2MG
On Mon, 01 April 2002, Merri wrote
> And it seems quite a few people call YLs off
> frequency regardless of continent/country.
>
> Merri AB0MV
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Tue Apr 2 14:54:58 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
References: <200204021703.g32H3UAl018918@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <031501c1da84$1d63c2e0$03010a0a@office1>
Gary,
I think the short answer is that now that almost every US prefix possible is
available (with the exception of the KP/NP/WP blocks from 6 thru 0, as I
don't think any of the old old Palmyra KP6 calls are still QRV), no one
prefix stands out from all of the others.
Trust me -- I miss the days when WN3 was a super-rare prefix in the contest!
Someone will always be needing us for mults, but because of the
preponderance of US mults, few will be actively looking for us specifically,
so plan your future strategy accordingly.
I also spent almost all of my limited time this weekend on S&P, and I'm
satisfied with my score (350 Q's, over 250K points), all things
considered -- especially since it was barefoot with verticals.
And no Popkin-grams to date, but the week is yet young...
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
From: "Gary McAdams" <g.m.mcadams@worldnet.att.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Hello Guys,
I have a question about the WPX contest.
My call is WG7X and with this call, I always
thought that I would be a popular fellow in
the various WPX contests. This has not
been the case, ever, and I have participated
in quite a few of these tests.
Recent rules changes have made Q's on the
same continent worth at least one point, and
with my WG7 prefix I'm also a multiplier.
During the SSB test, I was S&P'in and many
stations said: Thanks for the mult!" and quite
a few gave me the unsolicited "big signal"
report. (DX and Domestic)
So, given that I have a fairly good signal, and
a weird call, I wonder why I could not get even a
small run going? S&P got me to about 350 q's
(and almost every one a new mult) but I could not
get any answers to my CQ's...
Should I expect to be sought out as a needed
multiplier, or continue to participate in my normal
way in the S&P mode? W7's are literally a dime
a dozen and I've always thought that the WPX offered
myself and others a way to be popular, if only
for a short time.
Thoughts?
Gary, WG7X
--__--__--
>From windev at inetmarket.com Tue Apr 2 17:07:09 2002
From: windev@inetmarket.com (Gerry Hull)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NAB -> See you there.
Message-ID: <20020402170356.B5C7.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Hi,
Looking forward to meeting fellow contesters at the
NAB ham gettogether next Wednesday...
73, Gerry Hull, W1VE/VE1RM
(Oh, National Association of Broadcasters covention in Vegas, for
those who are wondering.)
Hull Computer Consulting
POB C, Greenfield, NH
Home Office: 603-547-8327
Voice Mail/Fax: 866-823-5473
email: windev@inetmarket.com
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Wed Apr 3 00:51:47 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020403004236.00d8b650@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
Gosh guys, just because I don't have multiple towers, antennas, rigs,
and/or the money to buy them doesn't mean that I am not a serious
contester. Even in the WPX. I love this "sport" and will keep doing it
till I can't do it anymore.
But the question I have always wondered is, is everybody is running,
how are you getting the Q's.
I made possibly 15 Q's this wekend via "running", it was more like a
very slow walk, and I wound up with over 1k Q's and 1.3 million points.
So you should thank us S&P ops and not belittle them(us) by intimating
that we are not serious ops. Absolutely we are serious, and if we weren't
you would have much fewer Q's in the log.
Some people drive Porsches and some of us drive Fords or whatever.
That doesn't mean we can't get to work on time.
73, Tom K5IID
>From david.e.burger at au.pwcglobal.com Wed Apr 3 13:04:43 2002
From: david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com (david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] KT6RU, and odd callsigns VK8AA and 80/75m
Message-ID: <OF33D3F58C.9F20E7C2-ONCA256B90.000F8295@aap.pwcinternal.com>
Dan, you were loud on 40m - but it looked like I worked a few stateside 40m
QRP'ers there as well !
Regarding oddball callsigns (like VK8AA), the real money is on a 6 pointer
and a new mult in one hit, but I cannot access spotting systems where I
operate, so its very much like Rich's comments - just work them and the
mults follow. This was my first serious attempt on 160/80 and 40m...
2003 antenna sketch's are already complete !!
I don't frequent 80/75 outside contests, but as our little 5Khz VK/NA SSB
window was 'busy', getting people to listen down to 3699 for me was a
challenge. Is there a split contest protocol on 80/75 in place like 40m ?
I worked about 10% of what I heard on 80/75, even though US sigs were
10over or more. My wideband 80m antenna was 40m off the ground and 30m
from the beach and seemed to work OK.
David VK8AA
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>From yt3t at absolutok.net Wed Apr 3 12:17:46 2002
From: yt3t@absolutok.net (Kele YT3T)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Economics of Contest QSLing
Message-ID: <008201c1daf8$d0f75820$9de45d50@pentium>
Hi everyone,
as a perrennial QSL designer and printer, I am curious to check if anyone
would be interested to use the following service:
1. Sending QSO data files via email to YU1AO
2. Approving proposed QSL card design and cost
3. Sending funds for the service
4. Having QSLs printed, filled and shipped to bureaus and managers.
This way, many of you can save time and complications, some ink for the
printer... Please note, this is one way process, I am not offering to handle
cards received from bureau/mgrs. Only transmitt. The only paper I am ready
to receive (for this time, in this matter) are your funds.
There are some people who like my designs and prints, and as I am building
(finally) a contest station on the hilltop, additional service is a must, to
make everyone happy :-)
Yes, one must trust that the job will be done honestly as agreed, and that
is probably the main disadvantage of this proposal, but as an ambitious
contester I take a risk to be blamed in the contest community, whatever I
do, and that is just a bit more valuable to me than required pennies.
Please send me your opinions on this subject.
73s
Kele
YU1AO, YT3T, N2KAB
email to yt3t@absolutok.net
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Wed Apr 3 16:14:44 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Yesterdaaaaay
Message-ID: <014101c1db22$4a69c020$5017be3f@bigguy>
The Beatles - Loss Of Logbook (To the tune of "Yesterday")
Yesterday,
All those backups seemed a waste of pay.
Now my log has gone away.
Oh I believe in yesterday.
Suddenly,
There's not half the Q's there used to be,
And log submission's hanging over me.
Oh CT crashed so suddenly.
I pushed something wrong,
What it was, I could not say.
Now my Q's have gone and I long
for yesterday-ay-ay-ay.
Yesterday,
The need for back-ups seemed so far away.
I knew my Cabrillo was here to stay,
Now I believe in yesterday.
(???) 73, de Hans, K0HB
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Wed Apr 3 11:18:07 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <003901c1db33$85fb0480$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
So what do other people think about eQSL.cc change of policy?
The main page of the web site now says:
"We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of our
InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have confirmed."
So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and who by
law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL out of
courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I have
faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc -- now you
are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It seems
that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able to
respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not even be
able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From hamradio at earthlink.net Wed Apr 3 09:49:03 2002
From: hamradio@earthlink.net (Vincent Walton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Address for D44DD?
Message-ID: <41200243317493120@earthlink.net>
I worked a D44DD in the CQ WW WPX contest last weekend, anyone have an
address for this call?
Thanks
--- Vince, K6BIR
--- hamradio@earthlink.net
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Wed Apr 3 12:54:38 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
References: <200204031702.g33H2aAl007367@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <04fe01c1db39$2b909900$03010a0a@office1>
Tom,
I'm not sure where you're coming from. When I say that I'm not "serious" in
a contest, that only means that I'm out there to hand out Q's, usually S&P,
for the benefit of other operators. It's a recognition that my interest in
a high score in that particular contest isn't there, for whatever reason.
Maybe my equipment's not up to snuff due to my location. But usually it's
because I have limited time to devote to that particular contest due to
time, work, family, or other neccesary tasks & obligations.
A contest I'll take "seriously" is one where I am planning a strategy in an
effort to place highly or even win. For example, I put a "serious" effort
into ARRL DX Phone this year and did very well for myself. Most years I put
a "serious" effort into the PA QSO Party, either for myself and/or my
club -- I've helped out a lot behind the scenes the last few years with the
club efforts and we're getting some really good contesters out of the
effort. And so on.
So saying that I'm not "serious" is not by any means belittling nor should
it be interpreted as such. It's just an indication of how hard I worked at
it. I sure wish I could put a serious effort into most of the major
contests, it's just not possible right now.
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
From: Tom Horton <k5iid@ntelos.net>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
Gosh guys, just because I don't have multiple towers, antennas, rigs,
and/or the money to buy them doesn't mean that I am not a serious
contester. Even in the WPX. I love this "sport" and will keep doing it
till I can't do it anymore.
But the question I have always wondered is, is everybody is running,
how are you getting the Q's.
I made possibly 15 Q's this wekend via "running", it was more like a
very slow walk, and I wound up with over 1k Q's and 1.3 million points.
So you should thank us S&P ops and not belittle them(us) by intimating
that we are not serious ops. Absolutely we are serious, and if we weren't
you would have much fewer Q's in the log.
Some people drive Porsches and some of us drive Fords or whatever.
That doesn't mean we can't get to work on time.
73, Tom K5IID
>From dhenderson at arrl.org Wed Apr 3 14:15:24 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2001 ARRL Ten Meter Contest Logs Received
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B7687@KAHLESS>
The list of Logs Received for the 2001 ARRL Ten Meter Contest has been
posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
If you find an error in your listing, or if your listing is missing, please
contact me at n1nd@arrl.org. Please have your receipt number available if
you submitted electronically.
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From dhenderson at arrl.org Wed Apr 3 14:55:33 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Logs Received posted for 2001 ARRL 160-Meter Contest
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B7688@KAHLESS>
The list of Logs Received for the 2001 ARRL 160-Meter Contest has been
posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
If you find an error in your listing, or if your listing is missing, please
contact me at n1nd@arrl.org. Please have your receipt number available if
you submitted electronically.
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Wed Apr 3 20:07:17 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
In-Reply-To: <04fe01c1db39$2b909900$03010a0a@office1>
References: <200204031702.g33H2aAl007367@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020403200113.00c84b00@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
Ron,
I agree with you.
What I was getting at is that apparently some folks think that
if you are not a big gun and don't get over 1000 prefixes in
the WPX contest, then you are not a serious contester.
I've been contesting probably as long as most anyone on this
reflector and a heck of a lot more than most that are here.
No, I have never won a big contest nationally , but I do and have
won my section several times over the years. I've placed in the
Top Ten in a few. So to intimate that, since I only got 523 prefixes
last weekend, I am not a serious contester I really don't
think is accurate.
That's all I was saying.
73, Tom K5IID
At 12:54 04/03/02 -0500, Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
>Tom,
>
>I'm not sure where you're coming from. When I say that I'm not "serious" in
>a contest, that only means that I'm out there to hand out Q's, usually S&P,
>for the benefit of other operators. It's a recognition that my interest in
>a high score in that particular contest isn't there, for whatever reason.
>Maybe my equipment's not up to snuff due to my location. But usually it's
>because I have limited time to devote to that particular contest due to
>time, work, family, or other neccesary tasks & obligations.
>
>A contest I'll take "seriously" is one where I am planning a strategy in an
>effort to place highly or even win. For example, I put a "serious" effort
>into ARRL DX Phone this year and did very well for myself. Most years I put
>a "serious" effort into the PA QSO Party, either for myself and/or my
>club -- I've helped out a lot behind the scenes the last few years with the
>club efforts and we're getting some really good contesters out of the
>effort. And so on.
>
>So saying that I'm not "serious" is not by any means belittling nor should
>it be interpreted as such. It's just an indication of how hard I worked at
>it. I sure wish I could put a serious effort into most of the major
>contests, it's just not possible right now.
>
>73, ron wn3vaw
>
>"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
>
>-- The Firesign Theatre
>
>----- Original Message -----
>To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>From: Tom Horton <k5iid@ntelos.net>
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
>
>Gosh guys, just because I don't have multiple towers, antennas, rigs,
>and/or the money to buy them doesn't mean that I am not a serious
>contester. Even in the WPX. I love this "sport" and will keep doing it
>till I can't do it anymore.
>But the question I have always wondered is, is everybody is running,
>how are you getting the Q's.
> I made possibly 15 Q's this wekend via "running", it was more like a
>very slow walk, and I wound up with over 1k Q's and 1.3 million points.
>So you should thank us S&P ops and not belittle them(us) by intimating
>that we are not serious ops. Absolutely we are serious, and if we weren't
>you would have much fewer Q's in the log.
>Some people drive Porsches and some of us drive Fords or whatever.
>That doesn't mean we can't get to work on time.
>73, Tom K5IID
>
>
>
>
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>From a.annesi at libero.it Wed Apr 3 22:10:34 2002
From: a.annesi@libero.it (Alberto Annesi - IV3TAN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: R: [CQ-Contest] Address for D44DD?
References: <41200243317493120@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <003a01c1db4b$9d5f8e80$9c3e1997@m1f8y5>
Hi Vince,
we was active during the last WPX SSB with D44TD Callsign.
The qsl manager is CT1EKF.
73
de IV3TAN (D44TC and one of D44TD)
----- Original Message -----
From: Vincent Walton <hamradio@earthlink.net>
To: CQ Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Cc: Contest Reflector <contest@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:00 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Address for D44DD?
> I worked a D44DD in the CQ WW WPX contest last weekend, anyone have an
> address for this call?
> Thanks
>
> --- Vince, K6BIR
> --- hamradio@earthlink.net
>
>
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>From k1ir at designet.com Wed Apr 3 20:37:06 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <s1h8xf5bc0ebapn.030420022037@designet-jsi>
Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we can
call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the point? If
you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We submit the
information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review their
logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one, but I
don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks are off
by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line QSL - no
QSO - and no way to track it.
What do the DXCC Rules say?
"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply, written
proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be submitted
directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . . Staff may
accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
and,
"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call signs of
both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and date, time
and band."
For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new double-blind
confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic QSLing.
It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure to get
them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether printed or
electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL DXCC
policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From K4tmc at aol.com Wed Apr 3 21:03:12 2002
From: K4tmc@aol.com (K4tmc@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April CQ arrives
Message-ID: <c9.20099b03.29dd0e60@aol.com>
Front cover photo of W0GG in his neat shack with details of his station
inside.
Contest related items:
Results - 2001 CQ WW WPX CW Contest
The (Golden) Triangle of Contesting in Poland
Contesting - CQ's 2002 Contest Survey
Propagation - Cycle 23 is Dying (Not)
Our Readers Say - Limit Contesting Frequencies (letter)
Other interesting items:
Zero Bias (editorial) - Lobbying 101
Public Service - President Bush Praises Hams, Calls for More Volunteering
The Impact of Solar Storms on World Economies and the Birth of A New
Commodities Trading Technique (remember what month this is)
The Heyday of CW at Sea, Part II, A radio Operator's Life at Sea
Reader Survey - questions about antenna restriction experiences
Make Your Mobile Mic "Hands Free"
Softbrewing a Logbook, A Primer For Database Design
World of Ideas - Keys 2002, New, Old, and Always Terrific!, Part II
QRP - More Build'em Notes and FT-817 Tips
DX - Getting the DX, Keep Your Cool and Listen!
VHF Plus - Sunspots: Downhill? Not So Fast!
Ads:
Sorry, no ad for the "new" series of Mark-V FT-1000MP Marine, Aeronautical,
Silver, Gold, etc. rigs? maybe next April!
73 & High Rates,
Henry Pollock - K4TMC
Raleigh, NC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 3 19:46:34 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 03Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204040346.g343kYt04764@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 03Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
A new era has begun for producing contest summaries. In the past, it
would be neccessary for individuals to collect and format the data
at periodic intervals and then mail out the results. The Web Submission form by
Bruce/WA7BNM was a big improvement as it allowed the data to be parsed and
imported by software. The next logical leap is to have a database itself
produce reports and we are close to that that point. The data being input into
the Web Submission pages is going into a database and reports can be produced
at whim. All the WPX reports including this one have been generated from that
database. The possibilities are endless. For now, while the system gets
fine-tuned and Bruce refines the system, I will continue sending
out the summaries as e-mail. We hope you will continue your fine tradition of
comments and input.
One downside, if you don't use the Web-page submission forms, it's really going
to be hard to show your results in the summaries. For now, Bruce is manually
inputting that data but it's slow and demanding process and probably not
something that can go on for long. This doesn't mean you can't post your own
results to 3830, it just means that they will be delayed for now and may not
get into summaries in the future. It's a lot of work to manually input contest
data and a job I have seriously been considering giving up. Now that the
technology is available to make that job unneccesary, I really implore that you
use the Web-page submission forms IF you want to be in the summaries.
best
dink
comments can be sent to mwdink@eskimo.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
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USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
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USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
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USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
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N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
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USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
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USA SO(BR)AB LP
WN6K 859 435 29:45 723,405 SCCC
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USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
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USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
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USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
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USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
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USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
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USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
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USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
K5PI(@W5KFT) 918 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
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USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
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USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
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USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
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USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
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USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
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USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
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USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
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USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
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K0FX(DON) 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM3GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 3 19:47:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 03Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204040347.g343lZ404773@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 03Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
A new era has begun for producing contest summaries. In the past, it
would be neccessary for individuals to collect and format the data
at periodic intervals and then mail out the results. The Web Submission form by
Bruce/WA7BNM was a big improvement as it allowed the data to be parsed and
imported by software. The next logical leap is to have a database itself
produce reports and we are close to that that point. The data being input into
the Web Submission pages is going into a database and reports can be produced
at whim. All the WPX reports including this one have been generated from that
database. The possibilities are endless. For now, while the system gets
fine-tuned and Bruce refines the system, I will continue sending
out the summaries as e-mail. We hope you will continue your fine tradition of
comments and input.
One downside, if you don't use the Web-page submission forms, it's really going
to be hard to show your results in the summaries. For now, Bruce is manually
inputting that data but it's slow and demanding process and probably not
something that can go on for long. This doesn't mean you can't post your own
results to 3830, it just means that they will be delayed for now and may not
get into summaries in the future. It's a lot of work to manually input contest
data and a job I have seriously been considering giving up. Now that the
technology is available to make that job unneccesary, I really implore that you
use the Web-page submission forms IF you want to be in the summaries.
best
dink
comments can be sent to mwdink@eskimo.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
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Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
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Non-USA M/S HP
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM3GU(@FM5GU) 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
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Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
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Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
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Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
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YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
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M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
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VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 @12 78,210
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Non-USA SOAB HP
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
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Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
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Non-USA SOAB QRP
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
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Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P 1384 599 36 2,479,860
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
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Non-USA SOSB15 HP
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
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Non-USA SOSB15 LP
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
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Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM3GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Apr 4 05:05:53 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
Message-ID: <006801c1db8e$09a48360$042bfa43@computer>
Quack's
Along with Tom, A serious contestor can work vy hard at it and still not
break 1000 PX , I could have done an all band effort but that is a bit much
as one rapidly approacches bit 70. I did manage 566 on Ten meters only and
had condx not crashed on Saturday, maybe 800 or so. I think that I'm a
serious contestor and have seldom been the big score in any of the DX
contest and Usually not even the top 10. Some could be to do with physical
location. eg: WWA , this just doesn't
make for big time scores where major mults from EU are not easy to get thru
the Aluminum of W1 thru W5, I heard numerious W0 call area stns wrking EU
that were just a trace here. I would recommend that there are many ways to
be serious, Always try to better previous scores , however rember that
conditions play a very big part. The main thing is to have that first 4
hrs of 130 plus average. or manage to dig 100 plus countries from a band .
W4ZV always puts 20 to 40 more 10 M countries in his log than I can manage.
No big deal he has a 40 DB advantage with Location and Antennas. I still
have fun.
CU all In the Next One
Quack aka;Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Horton" <k5iid@ntelos.net>
To: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 21:07
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
> Ron,
> I agree with you.
> What I was getting at is that apparently some folks think that
> if you are not a big gun and don't get over 1000 prefixes in
> the WPX contest, then you are not a serious contester.
> I've been contesting probably as long as most anyone on this
> reflector and a heck of a lot more than most that are here.
> No, I have never won a big contest nationally , but I do and have
> won my section several times over the years. I've placed in the
> Top Ten in a few. So to intimate that, since I only got 523 prefixes
> last weekend, I am not a serious contester I really don't
> think is accurate.
> That's all I was saying.
> 73, Tom K5IID
>
>
>
>
> At 12:54 04/03/02 -0500, Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
> >Tom,
> >
> >I'm not sure where you're coming from. When I say that I'm not "serious"
in
> >a contest, that only means that I'm out there to hand out Q's, usually
S&P,
> >for the benefit of other operators. It's a recognition that my interest
in
> >a high score in that particular contest isn't there, for whatever reason.
> >Maybe my equipment's not up to snuff due to my location. But usually
it's
> >because I have limited time to devote to that particular contest due to
> >time, work, family, or other neccesary tasks & obligations.
> >
> >A contest I'll take "seriously" is one where I am planning a strategy in
an
> >effort to place highly or even win. For example, I put a "serious"
effort
> >into ARRL DX Phone this year and did very well for myself. Most years I
put
> >a "serious" effort into the PA QSO Party, either for myself and/or my
> >club -- I've helped out a lot behind the scenes the last few years with
the
> >club efforts and we're getting some really good contesters out of the
> >effort. And so on.
> >
> >So saying that I'm not "serious" is not by any means belittling nor
should
> >it be interpreted as such. It's just an indication of how hard I worked
at
> >it. I sure wish I could put a serious effort into most of the major
> >contests, it's just not possible right now.
> >
> >73, ron wn3vaw
> >
> >"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
> >
> >-- The Firesign Theatre
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> >From: Tom Horton <k5iid@ntelos.net>
> >Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
> >
> >Gosh guys, just because I don't have multiple towers, antennas, rigs,
> >and/or the money to buy them doesn't mean that I am not a serious
> >contester. Even in the WPX. I love this "sport" and will keep doing it
> >till I can't do it anymore.
> >But the question I have always wondered is, is everybody is running,
> >how are you getting the Q's.
> > I made possibly 15 Q's this wekend via "running", it was more like a
> >very slow walk, and I wound up with over 1k Q's and 1.3 million points.
> >So you should thank us S&P ops and not belittle them(us) by intimating
> >that we are not serious ops. Absolutely we are serious, and if we weren't
> >you would have much fewer Q's in the log.
> >Some people drive Porsches and some of us drive Fords or whatever.
> >That doesn't mean we can't get to work on time.
> >73, Tom K5IID
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Wed Apr 3 23:48:05 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
K1IR's post disappoints me.
Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and why is always
the ARRL which is at fault?
Why is ARRL once again being blamed for the conniptions of the 2002 Keystone
Kops over at eQSL, who are ready to sell you a QSL card but can't grasp the
concept that they're acting as a (questionably ethical) QSL manager in the
process? Further, since my understanding (from those involved in the LotW
project) that it's eQSL that chose not to be compatible with LotW or anyone
else, why is anyone else being blamed for anything they do in their own
little world?
If you don't log a QSO and forget to fill out or send a card, and have no
way of following up on it later because of a lack of a log entry (mobile,
portable or otherwise) who's fault is this and why is this blame now being
assigned to LotW which is still a work in progress?
Where is it written that Logbook of the World is going to eliminate the
current use and acceptance of printed QSL cards when everything I have seen
& read to date indicates otherwise?
And most importantly Jim, answer us this: If you think this is a step in
the wrong direction, then what would you have them do? And how would you
make it work? It's easy to crticize and assign blame. You don't care for
the solution? Then what would you do?
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Organization: DesigNET International
Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we can
call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the point?
If
you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We submit
the
information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review
their
logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one, but
I
don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks are
off
by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line QSL -
no
QSO - and no way to track it.
What do the DXCC Rules say?
"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply,
written
proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be submitted
directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . . Staff may
accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
and,
"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call signs
of
both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and date,
time
and band."
For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new double-blind
confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic QSLing.
It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure to
get
them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether printed
or
electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL DXCC
policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 3 21:30:36 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW 160 SSB - Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020403213017.00a153f0@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 CQWW 160 SSB - Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: March 31.2002
E-mail logs to: cq160@kkn.net
Mail logs to: (none, CQ has asked that all logs be e-mailed)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
3830 archives - http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
DX Multi-Op LP
SN8V @SP8YMM 64 0 30 9,810
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
DX Multi-Op HP
KG4DZ 3430 3,231,060
XE1RCS 747 53 27 301,840
EI7M 546 29 44 248,500
4O6A @YT6A 550 18 52 221,600
G3UEG 417 20 51 20 166,700
DL2DBH (DJ9DZ) 312 9 45 17 82,836
M0ABC 376 7 44 1,791
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
DX SO LP
P40A (KK9A) 114 33 7 44,080
IK8HCG 190 3 40 39,474
V31AH (W0AH) 239 39 15 14 32,076
SP9BQJ 152 1 40 31,119 SPDXCLUB
OH6NIO 131 0 35 22,820 CONTEST CLUB FINLAND
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
DX SO HP
OT2T (ON4UN) 704 32 57 398,097
SV8CS 664 19 57 270,028
OH0NL 454 6 52 141,346 CONTEST CLUB FINLAND
LY2FY 433 7 20 141,215 KTU RC
RU6LA 363 2 55 14 109,098
LY2TA @LY7Z 114 10 41 4 33,864
G3SVL 66 6 29 4 12,985
RW4PL 51 32 1 8,320
XE2AC 23 8 3 3 1,221
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
USA/VE Multi-Op HP
N8TR 1068 58 32 33 234,000
VE3DC 674 54 10 209,536
AA4V 580 52 30 8 118,080
AA1K 531 51 28 11 113,602
WD5R 702 54 16 24 109,550
N7GP @W7MCO 608 54 12 24 89,100
NZ1U @KB1H 345 48 25 69,861
K3WW 482 46 12 12 66,758
K3OO 219 17 38 32,285
K3OOO 159 34 6 14,720
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
USA/VE SO QRP
W0ETC 341 50 3 38,531
KR0B (KS0T) 287 50 3 12 33,125
VA3TTT 104 28 1 14,558
WB6BWZ 38 17 0 1,292
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
USA/VE SO LP
VA3RU 478 54 12 154,572
K1PX 773 57 10 24 115,106
AC0W 518 53 7 14 68,640
W1CTN 326 51 16 16 53,868
K0UK 328 51 4 40,700 GRAND MESA
W3LL 288 42 5 23 29,093
AA1UT 206 39 2 21 18,614
K1JT 172 37 6 10 16,684
N8PY 128 123 5 8 11,560
W3MF 139 34 2 3 11,088
N1LW 84 33 3 7,092
W8DRZ 68 30 0 8 4,040
VE3RCN 42 20 3,900
KW8W 70 22 1 4 3,278
N4CW 50 26 0 2,834
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
USA/VE SO HP
VA3KA @VE3QAA 717 57 30 317,898
W4MYA 1177 58 41 27 306,603
VE3PN 680 56 30 22 297,818
WB9Z 1409 58 31 27 297,171
N4UK 1022 57 34 232,232
N3HBX 889 56 24 173,760
K9NR 952 57 19 164,236
K4JNY 838 54 21 143,775
K3NM 677 56 20 124,336
K0DU 739 54 14 25 112,880
W5PR 656 52 20 112,104
NX9T 696 52 17 108,261
K8DX 477 48 25 96,944
K2UOP 602 52 10 13 82,522
W3GH 406 52 17 67,896
K1GU 422 43 10 50,668
N8KM 375 46 12 50,228
AC8G 299 51 10 10 42,212
AA4NC 300 42 15 41,838
K0EJ 400 44 4 40,800
KO7X @KI7WX 313 49 6 4 37,840
VE6JY 156 46 2 35,712
KG7H 274 51 4 14 33,440
N6RO 211 51 6 27,645
K4BAI 207 42 5 18,522
W4HJ 252 34 1 18,480
N3HXQ 166 33 3 3 13,248
K6SE 126 41 3 5 12,488
N7DF/TI9 (N7DF 31 18 4 2 3,410
Teams:
SN8V @SP8YMM SP8LBK, SP8NCF
KG4DZ W4ZYT W4SD N8CH KU4EC N6ZO
XE1RCS XE1JG, XE1KK, XE1ME, XE1VIC, XE1YJY
4O6A @YT6A YU7EU, YT6A
N8TR N8TR,WB8K,W8BIN,KF8UN,N8DMM
VE3DC VE3BK, VE3GCP, VE3VZ, VE3STT, VE3RZ, VA3DJ, VE
3VMO
WD5R WD5R/N5ECT
N7GP @W7MCO W7MCO, N5IA, N7QK, K7LON
NZ1U @KB1H KB1H, N1XS
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 3 21:34:45 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Russian DX Contest - Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020403213420.00a1cba0@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 Russian DX Contest - Final Claimed Scores
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
3830 Archives -http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX M/S
LY7Z HP 2452 618 24 10,755,054
LY1YK HP 2094 533 24 7,744,490
KR1G HP 1160 385 16 3,201,275
N2ED QRP 1153 298 22 2,358,074
W5NN @K5NZ HP 1074 307 24 1,951,599
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SO CW
DL2OBF @DF3KV HP 1560 494 24 5,229,978
ZC4DW (G0DEZ) LP 1429 464 4,959,690
LY2GV HP 1408 4,405,960
K3CR (LZ4AX) HP 1400 431 24 4,076,553
G3LZQ HP 941 410 16 2,782,260
HB9ARF LP 1055 380 20 2,735,240
ES5KJ (ES5RY) LP 998 373 2,539,011
N4BP HP 1001 321 17 2,087,784
AA3B HP 886 302 1,813,510
OH3XR LP 779 344 11 1,769,192
VE1OP HP 931 282 15 1,745,298
YL2LY HP 702 309 10 1,527,387
W8CAR HP 598 236 1,028,724
N2RM (N2NC) HP 577 233 7 993,279
KM5G HP 618 205 809,135
OZ0RS LP 434 232 11 727,552
K8DX HP 307 164 4 334,888
AB2E LP 320 156 316,836
HB9DTM LP 250 147 8 274,743
K5XR (W5ASP) HP 254 116 202,420
WA6O @K6ZM HP 210 103 4 162,740
K7MI HP 213 103 147,290
N2GC HP 200 119 137,207
W4SAA HP 155 116 7 129,688
K1GU HP 168 103 4 108,356
KN4Y LP 125 679 5 84,770
N2NC QRP 65 46 2 22,632
K6III QRP 30 21 2,961
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SO Mixed
SN2B (UA2FB) 2338 572 9,045,608
OZ1AA @OZ7YY HP 1982 533 24 7,771,140
N2NT HP 2067 445 24 6,267,380
HA3OV LP 1603 478 24 5,593,556
YL0A (YL2KA) LP 1411 452 24 4,653,792
VA3UZ @VA3RU HP 1724 000 24 4,399,590
YL2GD HP 1279 437 16 3,993,306
K3WW HP 1225 338 15 2,824,328
OH6NIO HP 1050 339 12 2,266,893
M0TTT LP 792 287 11 1,626,142
SM6DER LP 651 298 15 1,323,120
KQ2M HP 596 249 1,045,800
K4MA HP 449 200 602,000
N4YDU LP 364 166 7 397,736
VA3WN LP 347 131 250,472
N1SNB LP 287 119 4 214,319
KI7Y LP 258 61 191,142
YL2PN LP 182 114 4 148,428
LZ1ABC HP 225 0 60,000
VE5SF LP 102 49 29,743
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SO SSB
LY4AA @LY7A HP 1621 512 24 5,824,000
SN2X (SP2DWG) LP 1008 356 20 2,572,456
W6AAN @WF3J HP 946 266 1,762,250
WB0WAO LP 176 90 18 113,850
VE3AGC LP 127 75 5 71,775
N3GXY QRP 656 67 8 43,952
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/10
HB9CZF HP 393 97 9 286,441
I2WIJ LP 315 86 5 207,776
K2SX HP 316 92 188,508
VE3KZ HP 183 76 3 100,548
W4NZ HP 147 67 2 71,958
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/15
ZC4BS LP 312 97 5 211,654
LY2NXW LP 238 86 131,924
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/20
LY6A (LY2BM) HP 1348 146 24 1,282,026
IK8UND HP 3325 113 18 375,725
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/40
A61AR HP 499 115 439,645
YZ7DX LP 356 98 7 233,436
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/80
S53F LP 435 89 253,027
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
Russian M/S
RU1A HP 3567 732 10,261,176
RF9C @RK9CWW HP 2859 700 24 8,700,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
Russian SO Mixed
RW4PL HP 1626 478 17 2,567,338
UA9FM HP 619 268 11 751,427
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
Russian SO SSB
RA3DNC LP 954 334 1,051,098
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
Russian SOSB/10
UA9YAB HP 1062 139 14 661,640
Teams:
LY7Z LY1DS, LY2TA
LY1YK LY2FY LY3CI
KR1G KR1G W1AAX
N2ED KF2EW, K2AF, N2ED
W5NN @K5NZ UA0OFF, K5NZ
RU1A RV1AW UA1ARX RW1AC RA1AR RA1AIP RA6CO RV3ACA R
N3AZ
RF9C @RK9CWW RZ9CO, UA9CDC, RA9CKQ, UA9CIR, RA9CMO
>From frenaye at pcnet.com Thu Apr 4 08:23:16 2002
From: frenaye@pcnet.com (Tom Frenaye)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Only 30 days - NEQP
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020404081512.038f7d60@204.213.232.3 >
Organizing efforts for the (new) New England QSO Party are going well. We
hope you'll plan to spend some time working New England stations on the weekend
of May 4-5. The full rules and a whole lot more are on the NEQP web site at:
http://www.neqp.org
We are working hard to get all 67 NE counties in CT MA ME NH RI and VT active
during the contest and have commitments for 42 of them already. If you plan
to be active from NE, let us know - we'll add you to our Reserve Your County
(tnx CQP) listing. We're also looking for plaque sponsors - so far we have 8
of them sponsored. Questions or comments can go to info@neqp.org
-- Tom/K1KI and Bob/W1RH
PS: Don't forget the Florida QSO Party the weekend before - a good warm up for
the NEQP.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
New England QSO Party - May 4-5, 2002 http://www.neqp.org
>From wo4o at juno.com Thu Apr 4 07:37:26 2002
From: wo4o@juno.com (R. A. Painter)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <20020404.073749.-1846735.6.wo4o@juno.com>
Wo4o doesn't like it either. nuff sed
73, Ric
On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 11:18:07 -0600 Sylvan Katz <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
writes:
> So what do other people think about eQSL.cc change of policy?
>
> The main page of the web site now says:
>
> "We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of
> our
> InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have
> confirmed."
>
> So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and
> who by
> law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL
> out of
> courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
>
> Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I
> have
> faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
> apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc --
> now you
> are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It
> seems
> that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able
> to
> respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not
> even be
> able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
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>From kr1g at hotmail.com Thu Apr 4 20:23:11 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <F101nk27XcYVJ4w3kXg00002131@hotmail.com>
Although no longer in the LoTW or ARRL loop, and thus speaking only for
myself, I can't possibly see how making the eQSL inbox somewhat more similar
to LoTW has to do with making it "closer to DXCC acceptance".
As I've said before, I like eQSL.cc - its a nice way of sending pretty
pictures around. It does a wonderful job with "QSL images" - or whatever
term you'd like to use. I *like* it! Its pretty cool.
But security has to be designed in from the beginning, not added afterwards.
We might argue over how much security is necessary, but seriously, DXCC
belongs to the ARRL and it's their decision (and of course I happen to agree
with them - but thats the subject of another post)
73
Ted KR1G
> > "We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of
> > our
> > InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have
> > confirmed."
> >
> > So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and
> > who by
> > law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL
> > out of
> > courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
> >
> > Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I
> > have
> > faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
> > apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc --
> > now you
> > are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It
> > seems
> > that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able
> > to
> > respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not
> > even be
> > able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
> >
> > .. sylvan
> >
> > Ô¿Ô¬
> > ----------------
> > Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> > Saskatoon, SK
> > http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
> >
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>From i2uiy at cqww.com Thu Apr 4 15:35:29 2002
From: i2uiy@cqww.com (I2UIY)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
Message-ID: <4.1.20020404202805.0094deb0@popmail.libero.it>
*********************************************
* PLEASE NOTE THE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS FOR LOGS *
*********************************************
EU SPRINT 2002
In 1994 the EU Sprint Gang (I2UIY, OK2FD, DL6RAI, and G4BUO) organized the
first European Sprint contests. For 2001 there have been some rule changes,
introducing an awards programme and bringing the Spring Sprints forward in
the calendar. You can find past scores and other information about the
sprints by visiting the official EU Sprint web site at this address:
<http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/>.
The BIG news is that now we will award a certificate to the winners in each
country but this is not all. Three nice plaques will be awarded for the top
three scores from all four contests combined. Therefore, please red circle
the four EU Sprint saturdays on your calendar, we will be looking for you
starting April 13!
EU SPRINT 2002
The EU Sprint Gang hereby invites you to participate in the four European
Sprint Contests held in 2002.
ENTRANTS: any licensed station may enter the Sprint. European stations can
work everybody; stations outside of Europe can work only European stations.
CATEGORIES: Single Operator ONLY. Only ONE signal may be aired at one time.
DATES:
EU SPRINT Spring:
* SSB: second Saturday in April - 13 April 2002 - managed by G4BUO
* CW: third Saturday in April - 20 April 2002 - managed by I2UIY
EU SPRINT Autumn:
* SSB: first Saturday in October - 5 October 2002 - managed by I2UIY
* CW: second Saturday in October - 12 October 2002 - managed by OK2FD
TIME: from 15:00 UTC until 18:59 UTC.
BANDS: 20, 40 and 80 metres only.
Pilot frequencies are: SSB: 14.250, 7.050, 3.730. CW: 14.040, 7.025, 3.550
EXCHANGE: all of the following data MUST BE PART OF THE EXCHANGE:
a) your callsign,
b) the other station's callsign,
c) your serial number starting from 001 (RST not required),
d) your name or nickname.
Please note that BOTH stations MUST repeat BOTH callsigns DURING the
exchange.
A valid exchange is: "OK2FD de I2UIY 118 Paolo" while "OK2FD 118 Paolo" is
NOT a valid exchange.
SPECIAL QSY RULE: if any station initiates a call (by sending CQ, QRZ?,
etc.), he is permitted to work ONLY one station on the same frequency. He
must thereafter move AT LEAST 2 (two) kHz before he may call another
station or before he may solicit again (CQ, QRZ?, etc.) other calls.
VALID CONTACTS: valid contacts are QSOs correctly logged and confirmed.
Each operator may use ONE and ONLY one name during the Sprint. If the
exchange is copied incorrectly, that operator will receive zero (0) points.
In case of miscopied callsigns, both stations will receive zero (0) points
for that QSO.
SCORING: each valid QSO counts one 1 (one) point. The final score is the
total number of QSOs.
AWARDS: Colorful certificates will be issued to the winners of each Sprint,
and to the leaders in each country. A special plaque will also be awarded
for the top three scores from all four contests combined. To be eligible
for this award an operator must enter at least three of the Sprints in the
year. Results will be forwarded as soon as possible to Leagues, magazines
and bulletins.
LOGS: a single chronological log is required. Please send us your log via
email or on a floppy disk, if you use computer for logging. Use any of the
available software or send a plain ASCII file. A separate summary sheet is
also required. Please send us the right files: for DL2NBU software, send
yourcall.ASC; for N6TR software, send yourcall.DAT; for IK4EWK software,
send yourcall.DBF.
If you want the latest release of the DL2NBU software, you can download it
from the EU Sprint web site: <http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/>.
Log files must be sent NO LATER than 15 days after the contest to:
<eusprint@kkn.net>. The receipt of your electronic log will be confirmed.
If you do not receive a confirmation within two days, try again or use the
postal
system.
Disk logs, or paper entries must be posted NO LATER than 15 days after the
contest to the appropriate address:
* Spring SSB Sprint: Dave Lawley, G4BUO, Carramore, Coldharbour Road,
Penshurst, Kent, TN11 8EX, England, UK.
* Spring CW Sprint: Paolo Cortese, I2UIY, P. O. Box 14, 27043 Broni
(PV), Italy.
* Autumn SSB Sprint: Paolo Cortese, I2UIY, P. O. Box 14, 27043 Broni
(PV), Italy.
* Autumn CW Sprint: Karel Karmasin, OK2FD, Gen. Svobody 636, 674 01
Trebic, Czech Republic.
Thanks in advance for your participation de: G4BUO, I2UIY & OK2FD.
**************************************************
* Download the FREE software: http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/ *
**************************************************
[ ] Paolo Cortese, I2UIY / IQ2A / NH7DX / OK8AFL
[ ] Pizza & Pasta Contest Club
[ ] CQWW Contest Committee
[ ] Eu Sprint Manager
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>From k4ik at subich.com Thu Apr 4 15:50:55 2002
From: k4ik@subich.com (Joe Subich, K4IK)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>
> From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:48 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> K1IR's post disappoints me.
>
> Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and
> why is always the ARRL which is at fault?
Why are you saying the ARRL staff is always right? eQSL had a
letter/email which stated that printed QSLs from anyone acting
as a legitimate (authorized) QSL manager would be accepted.
Someone among the ARRL staff changed that after the fact to
require a "double blind" process.
I think the change after the fact and without public discussion
is bad form at the minimum.
> Further, since my understanding (from those involved in the LotW
> project) that it's eQSL that chose not to be compatible with LotW
> or anyone else, why is anyone else being blamed for anything they
> do in their own little world?
Again, why are you being an ARRL cheerleader? eQSL "was there first."
Why did LOTW decide to adopt a system that was incompatible from the
beginning and adopt a "take it or leave it" attitude?
There is room for people to work together *IF* everyone is willing
to be flexible. To take the "play by my rules or I'll take my ball
and go home" attitude does nobody any good.
73,
... Joe, K4IK
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Thu Apr 4 16:04:01 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
> If you don't log a QSO and forget to fill out or send a card, and have no
> way of following up on it later because of a lack of a log entry (mobile,
> portable or otherwise) who's fault is this and why is this blame now being
> assigned to LotW which is still a work in progress?
There is an implicit assumption in the above statement that may not be quite
accurate. It appears to assume that both sides of a qso care about awards
and QSLs. I, for example, don't really care about awards and qsl cards. On
the other hand, I sure want to help those who do by confirming their qso
with me. I don't send QSL cards by mail --- a bit too expensive for my
simple life -- however, eQSLs are ideal. Although, I must admit I have never
initiated an eQSL but I have responded to hundreds of them.
By law I do not have to keep a general log. In practice I don't keep a
general log. I do keep contest logs. After, they are scored, they are
compressed, archived and put on a shelf. Too be quite honest I do not have
the time to search through contest logs, and some months I may have 4
contests logs, to confirm each QSL or eQSL that comes to my mail and
e-mail.boxes.
I rely on the honor system - if a fellow amateur wants an eQSL card from me
then all he has to do is send me an eQSL. I will assume he values our qso
and that he is honorable enough to provide me with accurate information
about our qso in his eQSL . And until the recent change of policy at eQSL.cc
I use to "eQSL 100 percent" but it seems they are forcing me to change my
words to "I never QSL". What a pity.
As others have pointed out, QSLing "is fundamentally an honor system and we
should be striving for ways to implement that honor system as painlessly as
possible."
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Thu Apr 4 17:26:00 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ronald Rossi)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <3CACD2F8.1D5EDC2A@btv.ibm.com>
Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
>
> K1IR's post disappoints me.
>
> Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and why is always
> the ARRL which is at fault?
They were slow to pick up the ball on this issue, but still want to define a
standard and determine the rules. The folks that started eQSL are forward
looking and getting the job done. Double blind is not how it is done for paper,
why should it be done that way electronically? In answer to "how would you make
this work?"...we have a working model.
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron (kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From w7zr at citlink.net Thu Apr 4 16:15:46 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
RO
I just pulled all of my logs from eqsl and will not answer cards through
that service anymore. It's a shame.
Dick W7ZR
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sylvan Katz" <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> > If you don't log a QSO and forget to fill out or send a card, and have
no
> > way of following up on it later because of a lack of a log entry
(mobile,
> > portable or otherwise) who's fault is this and why is this blame now
being
> > assigned to LotW which is still a work in progress?
>
> There is an implicit assumption in the above statement that may not be
quite
> accurate. It appears to assume that both sides of a qso care about awards
> and QSLs. I, for example, don't really care about awards and qsl cards. On
> the other hand, I sure want to help those who do by confirming their qso
> with me. I don't send QSL cards by mail --- a bit too expensive for my
> simple life -- however, eQSLs are ideal. Although, I must admit I have
never
> initiated an eQSL but I have responded to hundreds of them.
>
> By law I do not have to keep a general log. In practice I don't keep a
> general log. I do keep contest logs. After, they are scored, they are
> compressed, archived and put on a shelf. Too be quite honest I do not have
> the time to search through contest logs, and some months I may have 4
> contests logs, to confirm each QSL or eQSL that comes to my mail and
> e-mail.boxes.
>
> I rely on the honor system - if a fellow amateur wants an eQSL card from
me
> then all he has to do is send me an eQSL. I will assume he values our qso
> and that he is honorable enough to provide me with accurate information
> about our qso in his eQSL . And until the recent change of policy at
eQSL.cc
> I use to "eQSL 100 percent" but it seems they are forcing me to change my
> words to "I never QSL". What a pity.
>
> As others have pointed out, QSLing "is fundamentally an honor system and
we
> should be striving for ways to implement that honor system as painlessly
as
> possible."
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> "A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
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>
>
>From rhodes at evertek.net Thu Apr 4 17:18:02 2002
From: rhodes@evertek.net (Jim Rhodes)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <003901c1db33$85fb0480$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020404170941.00a0bd90@pop3.evertek.net>
Let me get this straight. You may or may not keep a log, that is up to you.
They are now saying that if you can't confirm the QSO because you don't
have a log, then you can't view the card, so you can't get the QSO data
from THEIR card so that you know what to put on your card. In other works
if I needed a card from VE5 all I would have had to do was send you a card
with made up information on it & you would have put the same information on
your card and posted it back to me. to me this just confirms that they
needed to close that avenue. If I can't confirm a QSO I don't send an QSL,
paper or e. If you do then you are not really helping the system.
Or am I mistaken. Is there another reason that you would be unable to
confirm a QSO?
At 11:18 AM 4/3/02, Sylvan Katz wrote:
>So what do other people think about eQSL.cc change of policy?
>
>The main page of the web site now says:
>
>"We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of our
>InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have confirmed."
>
>So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and who by
>law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL out of
>courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
>
>Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I have
>faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
>apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc -- now you
>are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It seems
>that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able to
>respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not even be
>able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
>
>.. sylvan
>
>????
>----------------
>Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
>Saskatoon, SK
>http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
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>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Thu Apr 4 17:30:35 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>; from Joe Subich,
K4IK on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 03:50:55PM -0500
References: <079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>
Message-ID: <20020404173035.E25949@cs.utexas.edu>
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 03:50:55PM -0500, Joe Subich, K4IK wrote:
>
>
> > From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:48 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> >
> >
> > K1IR's post disappoints me.
> >
> > Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and
> > why is always the ARRL which is at fault?
>
> Why are you saying the ARRL staff is always right? eQSL had a
> letter/email which stated that printed QSLs from anyone acting
> as a legitimate (authorized) QSL manager would be accepted.
"Legitimate" QSL Managers do not sell QSLs for a fee.
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Thu Apr 4 18:00:14 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>
Message-ID: <015501c1dc31$e3c17820$03010a0a@office1>
1. I am not saying ARRL is always right. I am saying that ARRL is not
automatically always in the wrong. I disagree with ARRL Leadership on many
issues, and if you don't believe that, go look at the Refarming posts over
on eHam.net
2. I agree with you that no public discussion, or at least announcement,
prior to the change by eQSL was a bad move. And I think it is unfortunate
that the explanation(s) given on the eQSL site, at present, are somewhat
superficial. That is a matter to be taken up with the people who made those
decisions, who wrote the text, and posted everything to the web site. Last
time I checked, Newington wasn't in Texas.
3. My understanding from talking to many people involved with what is now
known as the Logbook of the World project is that it was hoped from the
beginning that there would be some interaction and/or compatibility between
eQSL & LotW. It is also my understanding, based on a direct comment from
one of those participating, that it was N5UP who chose to discontinue
discussions on making the two systems compatible, not the LotW project. And
the big problem is one of security and validation issues, something which
eQSL lacked from the very beginning and still lacks in a big way today.
Otherwise I wouldn't have a "legitimate" P5SLIM eQSL jpeg file saved on my
hard drive.
4. Is it more important to be first or to do it right? If it's not done
right, what's the point in being first?
5. I have been forwarded a statement from N5UP stating that he made these
changes on his own initiative without being ordered to by anyone at the ARRL
staff and/or the LotW project. If this is true, then why is blamed being
dumped on ARRL for "forcing" the change?
6. Am I being an ARRL "cheerleader?" Hardly. I look terrible in
pom-pons and short skirts.
Besides, why does it seem always "in vogue" to bash the League and to bash
anyone who comes out in support of them? And more importantly, who do you
think the League is? The Headquarters staff? The elected and appointed
leadership? The League is it's membership -- too many of whom sit on the
fence and wait for someone else to do something, which is another issue
altogether. I am an active member of the ARRL. I have made it a point to
know the current and immediate past Division Directors, Vice Directors, and
Section Managers. And if I dislike something, I let them know. They may
tell me I'm off base, they may even may tell me to shut up and take a long
walk off a short pier, but I make my feelings known. Do you? (And I'm
lucky that the current and immediate past leadership in the Atlantic
Division listen. I've heard many complaints about other Division Directors
who allegedly don't. But that too is another issue)
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Subich, K4IK <k4ik@subich.com>
To: Ron Notarius WN3VAW <wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:48 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> K1IR's post disappoints me.
>
> Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and
> why is always the ARRL which is at fault?
Why are you saying the ARRL staff is always right? eQSL had a
letter/email which stated that printed QSLs from anyone acting
as a legitimate (authorized) QSL manager would be accepted.
Someone among the ARRL staff changed that after the fact to
require a "double blind" process.
I think the change after the fact and without public discussion
is bad form at the minimum.
> Further, since my understanding (from those involved in the LotW
> project) that it's eQSL that chose not to be compatible with LotW
> or anyone else, why is anyone else being blamed for anything they
> do in their own little world?
Again, why are you being an ARRL cheerleader? eQSL "was there first."
Why did LOTW decide to adopt a system that was incompatible from the
beginning and adopt a "take it or leave it" attitude?
There is room for people to work together *IF* everyone is willing
to be flexible. To take the "play by my rules or I'll take my ball
and go home" attitude does nobody any good.
73,
... Joe, K4IK
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Thu Apr 4 18:47:46 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1> <3CACD2F8.1D5EDC2A@btv.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <01bb01c1dc35$dd1fa2e0$03010a0a@office1>
Ron,
You make an interesting point. Why does ARRL want to define a standard and
determine the rules? Could it be because DXCC is their awards program?
Where they "slow" to pick up the ball? I think they were being cautious.
And maybe a little too conservative for my tastes too. Nevertheless, they
have taken action.
And I'm not sure why a fuss is now being made over "double blind." First,
that is indeed how it is done with paper QSL's -- after all, I send you a
card thinking that I made a contact, but until I either see your log or get
your card in return, how do I know it's there? And until you get my card,
ditto. Isn't that "double blind?" Second, this has been something that
has been requested of ALL on line logs for quite some time, and for good
reason. It is to prevent someone from fraudulently claiming a contact
actually made with another station as theirs as a "busted call." There was
a DXpedition last year where one of the ops posted complete logs early, and
they had to be recalled for that very reason.
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
From: Ronald Rossi <rrossi@btv.ibm.com>
To: Ron Notarius WN3VAW <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
>
> K1IR's post disappoints me.
>
> Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and why is
always
> the ARRL which is at fault?
They were slow to pick up the ball on this issue, but still want to define a
standard and determine the rules. The folks that started eQSL are forward
looking and getting the job done. Double blind is not how it is done for
paper,
why should it be done that way electronically? In answer to "how would you
make
this work?"...we have a working model.
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron (kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Thu Apr 4 16:07:49 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
References: <4.1.20020404202805.0094deb0@popmail.libero.it>
Message-ID: <005101c1dc35$ecefcb00$5a2afea9@sbcglobal.net>
NOW if we could just get Paolo and the ASSOCIAZIONE RADIOAMATORI ITALIANI
(ARI) to reward the winner with a trip for two to Italy to pick-up their
trophy, kind of like they used to do for the Bermuda contest, then we would
really have something. Or at least the pleasure of sharing one of Paolo's
world-famous 2 kilogram pizzas! Over to you, Paolo.
Jim
N6TJ (on as ZD8Z in the upcoming EU
CW SPRINT April 20)
----- Original Message -----
From: "I2UIY" <i2uiy@cqww.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:35 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
>
> *********************************************
> * PLEASE NOTE THE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS FOR LOGS *
> *********************************************
>
> EU SPRINT 2002
> In 1994 the EU Sprint Gang (I2UIY, OK2FD, DL6RAI, and G4BUO) organized
the
> first European Sprint contests. For 2001 there have been some rule
changes,
> introducing an awards programme and bringing the Spring Sprints forward
in
> the calendar. You can find past scores and other information about
the
> sprints by visiting the official EU Sprint web site at this
address:
> <http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/>.
> The BIG news is that now we will award a certificate to the winners in
each
> country but this is not all. Three nice plaques will be awarded for the
top
> three scores from all four contests combined. Therefore, please red
circle
> the four EU Sprint saturdays on your calendar, we will be looking for
you
> starting April 13!
>
> EU SPRINT 2002
> The EU Sprint Gang hereby invites you to participate in the four
European
> Sprint Contests held in 2002.
>
> ENTRANTS: any licensed station may enter the Sprint. European stations
can
> work everybody; stations outside of Europe can work only European
stations.
> CATEGORIES: Single Operator ONLY. Only ONE signal may be aired at one
time.
> DATES:
> EU SPRINT Spring:
> * SSB: second Saturday in April - 13 April 2002 - managed by G4BUO
> * CW: third Saturday in April - 20 April 2002 - managed by I2UIY
> EU SPRINT Autumn:
> * SSB: first Saturday in October - 5 October 2002 - managed by I2UIY
> * CW: second Saturday in October - 12 October 2002 - managed by OK2FD
> TIME: from 15:00 UTC until 18:59 UTC.
> BANDS: 20, 40 and 80 metres only.
> Pilot frequencies are: SSB: 14.250, 7.050, 3.730. CW: 14.040, 7.025, 3.550
> EXCHANGE: all of the following data MUST BE PART OF THE EXCHANGE:
> a) your callsign,
> b) the other station's callsign,
> c) your serial number starting from 001 (RST not required),
> d) your name or nickname.
> Please note that BOTH stations MUST repeat BOTH callsigns DURING
the
> exchange.
> A valid exchange is: "OK2FD de I2UIY 118 Paolo" while "OK2FD 118 Paolo"
is
> NOT a valid exchange.
> SPECIAL QSY RULE: if any station initiates a call (by sending CQ,
QRZ?,
> etc.), he is permitted to work ONLY one station on the same frequency.
He
> must thereafter move AT LEAST 2 (two) kHz before he may call
another
> station or before he may solicit again (CQ, QRZ?, etc.) other calls.
> VALID CONTACTS: valid contacts are QSOs correctly logged and
confirmed.
> Each operator may use ONE and ONLY one name during the Sprint. If
the
> exchange is copied incorrectly, that operator will receive zero (0)
points.
> In case of miscopied callsigns, both stations will receive zero (0)
points
> for that QSO.
> SCORING: each valid QSO counts one 1 (one) point. The final score is
the
> total number of QSOs.
> AWARDS: Colorful certificates will be issued to the winners of each
Sprint,
> and to the leaders in each country. A special plaque will also be
awarded
> for the top three scores from all four contests combined. To be
eligible
> for this award an operator must enter at least three of the Sprints in
the
> year. Results will be forwarded as soon as possible to Leagues,
magazines
> and bulletins.
> LOGS: a single chronological log is required. Please send us your log
via
> email or on a floppy disk, if you use computer for logging. Use any of
the
> available software or send a plain ASCII file. A separate summary sheet
is
> also required. Please send us the right files: for DL2NBU software,
send
> yourcall.ASC; for N6TR software, send yourcall.DAT; for IK4EWK
software,
> send yourcall.DBF.
> If you want the latest release of the DL2NBU software, you can download it
> from the EU Sprint web site: <http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/>.
> Log files must be sent NO LATER than 15 days after the contest to:
> <eusprint@kkn.net>. The receipt of your electronic log will be confirmed.
> If you do not receive a confirmation within two days, try again or use the
> postal
> system.
> Disk logs, or paper entries must be posted NO LATER than 15 days after the
> contest to the appropriate address:
> * Spring SSB Sprint: Dave Lawley, G4BUO, Carramore, Coldharbour
Road,
> Penshurst, Kent, TN11 8EX, England, UK.
> * Spring CW Sprint: Paolo Cortese, I2UIY, P. O. Box 14, 27043
Broni
> (PV), Italy.
> * Autumn SSB Sprint: Paolo Cortese, I2UIY, P. O. Box 14, 27043
Broni
> (PV), Italy.
> * Autumn CW Sprint: Karel Karmasin, OK2FD, Gen. Svobody 636, 674
01
> Trebic, Czech Republic.
>
> Thanks in advance for your participation de: G4BUO, I2UIY & OK2FD.
>
> **************************************************
> * Download the FREE software: http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/ *
> **************************************************
>
>
>
>
> [ ] Paolo Cortese, I2UIY / IQ2A / NH7DX / OK8AFL
> [ ] Pizza & Pasta Contest Club
> [ ] CQWW Contest Committee
> [ ] Eu Sprint Manager
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>From kr1g at hotmail.com Fri Apr 5 03:10:06 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <F114eX2GOC9GBDYnV7j000166f5@hotmail.com>
Jim,
You are not quite right, although close. If the times are off or something
else is wrong (and you probably won't know what, just that you worked
P5/KR1G on 160 and the logs have been submitted and you don't have credit),
you would de *exactly* what you do today - send P5/KR1G's QSL manager,
KC1XX, a note saying "man I know I'm in the log can you double check
please?" And Matt may find a problem, like your call K1IR was logged
correctly on the cheap one-ply toilet paper KR1G used for logging because
his laptop ran erratically on P5 power but copied into the computer log
incorrectly.
As far as being too strict, blame me!! The biggest strength and reason for
the prestige of the DXCC program is its security - yes, you can scam it.
Print your own DL, and G and EA6 and PYOF cards and submit them and they'll
probably pass. Try that with a P5 or VU7 card and it gets *much* harder.
They do catch cheaters quite often I'm told. Any eQSL system MUST be at
least as secure! If its too secure and a too much of a hassle (the two go
hand in hand), it can be loosened later. We did consider possible (in some
cases probable) attacks and some of the "features" are designed especially
for them. Yes, I am Paranoid - its my job :)
73
Ted KR1G
>From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
>To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we can
>call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the point?
>If
>you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We submit
>the
>information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review
>their
>logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one, but
>I
>don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks are
>off
>by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line QSL -
>no
>QSO - and no way to track it.
>
>What do the DXCC Rules say?
>
>"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply,
>written
>proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be
>submitted
>directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . . Staff
>may
>accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
>
>and,
>
>"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call
>signs of
>both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and date,
>time
>and band."
>
>For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
>solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new double-blind
>confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic QSLing.
>
>It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure to
>get
>them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether printed
>or
>electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
>
>Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL DXCC
>policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
>accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
>
>73,
>
>Jim Idelson K1IR
>email k1ir@designet.com
>web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>
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>From k1ir at designet.com Thu Apr 4 23:00:33 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <ooxt6wp5y6ytfss.040420022300@designet-jsi>
>If you think this is a step in the wrong direction, then what would you have
them do? And how would you make it work? It's easy to criticize and assign
blame. You don't care for the solution? Then what would you do?<
No problem, Ron. I would implement the electronic QSL system in a manner that
mirrors the existing paper QSL system. That system would permit a QSL to be
issued unilaterally by one station and received by the other. This is what we
have today in the paper world - and while not perfect, it works. In fact, it
works so well that DXCC continues to be the most prestigious and popular award
program in amateur radio. If it were tainted by significant problems with QSL
credibility, it would not hold this lofty position after nearly 65 years.
I certainly agree with Ted - security needs to be built into the program, and
to me that includes making these unilateral QSLs theft- and copy-proof.
However, if there is a desire to increase the rigor in QSL requirements for
DXCC and other awards, such a decision and discussion should be taken up by the
DXCC team with significant input from those involved in the DXCC program. It
should not be implemented via an end-run by the QSL technologists.
The current approach might be great for the dedicated, web-savvy, hard-core
DXers among us; but it is not going to be particularly attractive to the
newcomers and casual operators that dominate our ranks. The requirement to
upload electronic logs in order to receive QSLs will filter out thousands of
potential users.
Instead, every ARRL member with an email address should automatically begin to
receive electronic QSLs. Totals for all awards should be tracked on-line for
every member. All this should be user-configurable at the ARRL website. This is
the way to drive acceptance and rapid adoption.
Want to ensure that confirmations of rare DX QSOs are harder to forge? Put
special requirements on certain DXpedition logs, extremely rare countries, etc.
But, please don't introduce log transcription or upload requirements just so we
can see the QSL for a 20M DL QSO.
The right way to do this is to start by web-ifying the process we have today,
learning from the initial experience, and finally, make changes that need to be
made - based on sound reasoning.
That's what I think.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Fri Apr 5 04:10:31 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>
Message-ID: <015f01c1dc4f$7378aca0$7a13be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Subich, K4IK" <k4ik@subich.com>
> Why are you saying the ARRL staff is always right?
The ARRL is obviously right on matters related to ARRL,
and DXCC is an ARRL property.
eQSL is also obviously right on matters related to their
program.
With all kind wishes,
de Hans, K0HB
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Fri Apr 5 04:37:24 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <F114eX2GOC9GBDYnV7j000166f5@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <017a01c1dc53$346f7300$7a13be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
> As far as being too strict, blame me!!
"Too strict" is transparent to the honest player.
With all kind wishes,
de Hans, K0HB
>From k0il at arrl.net Thu Apr 4 22:47:02 2002
From: k0il@arrl.net (Ed - K0iL)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Nebraska QSO Party
Message-ID: <01C1DC2A.A3E7D020.k0il@arrl.net>
The Heartland DX Association of Nebraska & Iowa
Invites You To
*** The Nebraska QSO Party ***
April 27th & 28th
1700 zulu Saturday to 1700 zulu Sunday
You just haven't partied until you've gone Cow Tipping at 2am Saturday
Nite!
For complete rules, details and paperwork go to:
http://www.qsl.net/hdxa/neqso/
Cow Tipping not required or even recommended unless you the right boots.
;^)
There are 93 counties in Nebraska but, just like years past, don't look for
all of them to be
active. We just don't have that many hams here, and even fewer contesters;
but you Sweepstakes guys already knew that. Well, what do you expect
trying to hold radio contests during "Big Red" Season every year. What are
you thinking?!
If you live near Nebraska and have mobile HF capabilities, come on over and
have some fun running counties. We even have one ham flying in from Oregon
who's planning a mobile expedition through some fairly rare counties this
NQP.
Special Stations to look out for:
---------------------------------------------
W7DRA - Mike from Oregon will be mobile. Tentative schedule is Boone,
Madison, Stanton, Cuming and Burt counties.
KG0KR - Beth. Another local mobile op who gives out several counties each
year.
K0AIR - Strategic Air Command (SAC) Memorial Club may be operating again
from
Douglas County's EOC underground.
NI0DX - We'll let you know if anyone decides to use the club call after our
April HDXA
Dinner.
With FQP & NQP going on at the same time, work all of the Nebraska &
Florida stations that you can then sort them afterward and send in all the
logs. Just Call "CQ N-F QP" or maybe F-N QP! Just work it! See you in
the Party.
73,
de ed -K0iL
HDXA V.P.
-.-. --.- .... .- -- ... -.. . -.- ----- .. .-.. -.-
Ed Edwards -- K0iL
PO Box 375
Elkhorn, NE 68022-0375 k0il@qsl.net
Visit my web site: http://www.qsl.net/k0il
or HDXA's web site: http://www.qsl.net/hdxa
--... ...-- . ... --. .-.. - --- ..- --- -- ...-.- . .
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 4 21:19:37 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 04Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204050519.g355JbP05856@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 04Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
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AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
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AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
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WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
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K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
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K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
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USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
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USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
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USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
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KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
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WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
K5PI(@W5KFT) 918 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM3GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 4 21:20:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 04Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204050520.g355KnB05867@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 04Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM3GU(@FM5GU) 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20h 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 @12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32.8 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
PA5AT 648 383 15 hr 512,454
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P 1384 599 36 2,479,860
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18.5 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14.4 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
9A4X 2475 916 35.6 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30,5 3,175,484
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM3GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From tautvydas at achema.com Fri Apr 5 10:08:53 2002
From: tautvydas@achema.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tautvydas_Misi=FBnas?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
Message-ID: <006201c1dc79$2314e510$a800a8c0@tautvydas>
Jim,why You are so late with such brilliant idea?!
I've got my plaque by mail instead ...
CU this year!
Ted,LY2OX
>From va7bm at netzero.net Wed Apr 3 20:57:01 2002
From: va7bm@netzero.net (va7bm)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <003901c1db33$85fb0480$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <001c01c1dc8d$09b46000$7807fea9@address.com>
Yes that is a pity. I have no interest in receiving eQSL's (34 years chasing
DX I don't need many cards to increase my total. I've uploaded over 10'000
under 3 different calls and hope they are of some use to somebody. Oh well,
guess they will get it all sorted oneday.
73 Bob VA7BM ex VE7OR, VE7AZV and also licensed as KB7QEQ
----- Original Message -----
From: Sylvan Katz <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: CQ-Contest <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: April 03, 2002 9:18 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> So what do other people think about eQSL.cc change of policy?
>
> The main page of the web site now says:
>
> "We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of our
> InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have confirmed."
>
> So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and who by
> law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL out
of
> courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
>
> Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I have
> faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
> apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc -- now you
> are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It seems
> that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able to
> respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not even be
> able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Fri Apr 5 07:24:41 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
Message-ID: <003b01c1dca5$3e99b5a0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
>I just pulled all of my logs from eqsl and will not answer cards through
>that service anymore. It's a shame.
Might I suggest that instead of pulling your logs that you try the
following.
1. Post a message short message to CQ-Contest indicating why you oppose the
eQSL policy
(QSLing is part of the contest process).
2. Go to eQSL.cc and reject each eQSL that was sent to you
3. When the reject QSL pop-up box appears, check "Other problem listed
below"
4. and in the box put the URL of the message you posted to CQ-Contest.
You can get the URL of your posting by going to
http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/ and finding your posting.
This approach will allow us to use eQSL.cc to help rally a broader community
to encourage the eQSL.cc advisory board to reverse it decision and change a
good thing gone bad back to a valuable tool that can be used by us all and
not just DXCC award seekers.
Just a thought
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From k7qq at netzero.net Fri Apr 5 07:42:52 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <001001c1dcab$a5f06cc0$b13dfa43@computer>
Quacks
I find that in most cases where I have one that isn't correct its is simply
a bad time or band in the Log that I uploaded or his log. When U reject
just put in the time shown in Ur log and if he wants the card he can obtain
it that way. I don't even look at the ards that come thru. I respond when
I get SASE /$ I have 5 years of cards at the buro that I may get some day.
I load logs to e-QSL right after a contest so I don't have to confirm them.
The recient chang at e-QSL makes for a bigger job but no BFD. I still am
tring to work WAS.
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: "ted demopoulos" <kr1g@hotmail.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 03:10
Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> Jim,
>
> You are not quite right, although close. If the times are off or something
> else is wrong (and you probably won't know what, just that you worked
> P5/KR1G on 160 and the logs have been submitted and you don't have
credit),
> you would de *exactly* what you do today - send P5/KR1G's QSL manager,
> KC1XX, a note saying "man I know I'm in the log can you double check
> please?" And Matt may find a problem, like your call K1IR was logged
> correctly on the cheap one-ply toilet paper KR1G used for logging because
> his laptop ran erratically on P5 power but copied into the computer log
> incorrectly.
>
> As far as being too strict, blame me!! The biggest strength and reason for
> the prestige of the DXCC program is its security - yes, you can scam it.
> Print your own DL, and G and EA6 and PYOF cards and submit them and
they'll
> probably pass. Try that with a P5 or VU7 card and it gets *much* harder.
> They do catch cheaters quite often I'm told. Any eQSL system MUST be at
> least as secure! If its too secure and a too much of a hassle (the two go
> hand in hand), it can be loosened later. We did consider possible (in some
> cases probable) attacks and some of the "features" are designed especially
> for them. Yes, I am Paranoid - its my job :)
>
> 73
> Ted KR1G
>
> >From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
> >To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> >
> >Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we
can
> >call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the
point?
> >If
> >you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We submit
> >the
> >information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review
> >their
> >logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one,
but
> >I
> >don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks
are
> >off
> >by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line
QSL -
> >no
> >QSO - and no way to track it.
> >
> >What do the DXCC Rules say?
> >
> >"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply,
> >written
> >proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be
> >submitted
> >directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . . Staff
> >may
> >accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
> >
> >and,
> >
> >"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call
> >signs of
> >both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and date,
> >time
> >and band."
> >
> >For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
> >solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new double-blind
> >confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic QSLing.
> >
> >It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure to
> >get
> >them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether
printed
> >or
> >electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
> >
> >Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL
DXCC
> >policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
> >accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
> >
> >73,
> >
> >Jim Idelson K1IR
> >email k1ir@designet.com
> >web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >CQ-Contest mailing list
> >CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
>
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> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From w7zr at citlink.net Fri Apr 5 07:25:31 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1> <003b01c1dca5$3e99b5a0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <00cc01c1dcaf$0455bd80$2dd443d8@N1>
> >I just pulled all of my logs from eqsl and will not answer cards through
> >that service anymore. It's a shame.
>
> Might I suggest that instead of pulling your logs that you try the
> following.
>
> 1. Post a message short message to CQ-Contest indicating why you oppose
the
> eQSL policy
> (QSLing is part of the contest process).
> 2. Go to eQSL.cc and reject each eQSL that was sent to you
I had uploaded 110,000 QSOs. I will forward on the requests for eqsl
confirmations to you. Joking. But no joke...I don't need or want the
confirmations. I was trying to do it to help others.
> 3. When the reject QSL pop-up box appears, check "Other problem listed
> below"
> 4. and in the box put the URL of the message you posted to CQ-Contest.
>
> You can get the URL of your posting by going to
> http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/ and finding your posting.
>
> This approach will allow us to use eQSL.cc to help rally a broader
community
> to encourage the eQSL.cc advisory board to reverse it decision and change
a
> good thing gone bad back to a valuable tool that can be used by us all and
> not just DXCC award seekers.
>
> Just a thought
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> "A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
>
>
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Fri Apr 5 09:54:39 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The clock is ticking down to FQP 2K2
Message-ID: <007b01c1dcb1$d50e70a0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
(please forward this message to your local ham club e-mail reflectors-TNX!)
Yes, its Friday and the WPX SSB is past us....what next you say?
You Yankees, how did those fixed South "multiplier" antennas work for
you....DON'T MOVE EM JUST YET! Because:
It's only 22 days until FQP 2K2...
Over the past several years, the Florida Contest Group has turned out tens
of thousands of QSOs from hams just like you in a state QSO Party - The
Florida QSO Party.
The FQP has just about something for everybody including a handsome
certificate program, extensive plaque program (see below), college
competition, club competition and new this year:
An SWL Category!
If you are an SWL please contact me - we would like to get this information
distributed ASAP to the e-mail reflectors that SWL's frequent!
Florida hams take pride in airing their state - our larger fixed stations
can rack up over 2000 QSOs in the FQP - this is a 20 hour contest, so that
means they average over 100/hour. How can they do this - by your
participation!
We have successfully activated all of Florida's Counties since we took over
running the FQP several years ago - in fact several stations did it last
year! How do we do that - with mobilers roving the state...if you are a
mobiler/county activator we invite you to join us...each year several out of
state hams will come down to the Sunshine State and help us activate our
counties...last year there were several such stations who became plaque
winners.
Here are the FQP 2,001 Plaque winners, congratulations go to:
Sponsor Award Winner
N4PN Top Florida CW NO4S (K9OM op)
N4DL Top Florida Phone K4XS
N4BP Top Florida QRP NA4CW
K1TO Top Florida Mobile (Single Op) W5WMU
K4OJ Top Florida Mobile (Multi-Op) K5WA (+N6MU)
AB4RL Top Florida Score K4FQP (K5KG op)
K4OJ Most QSO's Florida Single Operator K4XS
N4PK Top Florida Club Station Score W4MLB
QCWA Chapter 62 Top Novice/Technician No Entries
KD4RWN Top University Non-Florida W6YX
Friendship ARC Top University Florida K4UCF
W4JN Top Non-Florida CW K3TW
K4XS Top Non-Florida Phone N?WY
NF4A Top Non-Florida Mixed Mode W8MJ
NA4CW Top Non-Florida QRP K3TW
N4TO Top European CW M?SDX
WD4AHZ Top Canadian Mixed Mode VE1OP
NF4A Top DX Mixed Mode LY3BA
K5KG 1st station to work all Counties in FQP K3WW
Have you tried the FQP?
It is a fun contest with a simple exchange - Floridians send a signal report
and a county (full county abbreviation list on the FQP web page/URL
below)...Out of Florida stations send a signal report and their
state/province or country - again consult the URL below....
Floridians if you can participate please check in to the web page ASAP and
click on the link for county activation/NS4W, our county coordinator....let
him know what county or counties you can activate.. Once we have a
commitment for a county the Florida map on the opening page of the website
will change color from Green to Orange for that county...over the next few
weeks you will see the map become more and more orange and with the help of
other Floridians we will make it all Orange once again! Please check in
ASAP so the mobile teams can plan their routes to ensure all FL counties
will be well represented!
There are Florida county as well as out of state records posted on the FQP
website - check them out - as well as all the other valuable info on the
FQP. The FQP website is a true asset - it even contains links to logging
software that supports the FQP!
Spend a few minutes surfing the website, bookmark it and don't forget:
Its only 22 days until the 2,002 - be there!
Check out the website:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp/index.html
73/GL
Jim, K4OJ
K4FCG
The Florida Contest Group...thanks to you were running 'em!
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Apr 5 11:14:04 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <00cc01c1dcaf$0455bd80$2dd443d8@N1>
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
<003b01c1dca5$3e99b5a0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020405111207.05278560@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 07:25 AM 4/5/02 -0700, Richard Zalewski wrote:
>...
>I had uploaded 110,000 QSOs. I will forward on the requests for eqsl
>confirmations to you. Joking. But no joke...I don't need or want the
>confirmations. I was trying to do it to help others.
I don't get it -- if the eQSLs aren't accepted for DXCC, it's hard to
understand why it's helpful to upload your logs there. I'm waiting for
LotW to become operational, because at least we know that those credits
will be accepted. I hope that this project is not turning into another FAA
air traffic control computer upgrade!
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Fri Apr 5 08:16:32 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (bob.wruble@verizon.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1> <003b01c1dca5$3e99b5a0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <002f01c1dcbd$40bc3390$3ec13d04@bobhome>
i am/was on their stupid advisory board and was never
consulted or asked about their abrupt policy change!
they had a good thing going but this latest move will likely
remove me as a customer. i wrote them a private email a few
days ago re this move but no response so far!
de w7gg/ai7b/ww7or
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sylvan Katz" <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>; "Ron Notarius WN3VAW"
<wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> >I just pulled all of my logs from eqsl and will not answer cards through
> >that service anymore. It's a shame.
>
> Might I suggest that instead of pulling your logs that you try the
> following.
>
> 1. Post a message short message to CQ-Contest indicating why you oppose
the
> eQSL policy
> (QSLing is part of the contest process).
> 2. Go to eQSL.cc and reject each eQSL that was sent to you
> 3. When the reject QSL pop-up box appears, check "Other problem listed
> below"
> 4. and in the box put the URL of the message you posted to CQ-Contest.
>
> You can get the URL of your posting by going to
> http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/ and finding your posting.
>
> This approach will allow us to use eQSL.cc to help rally a broader
community
> to encourage the eQSL.cc advisory board to reverse it decision and change
a
> good thing gone bad back to a valuable tool that can be used by us all and
> not just DXCC award seekers.
>
> Just a thought
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> "A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Fri Apr 5 08:25:27 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (bob.wruble@verizon.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <001001c1dcab$a5f06cc0$b13dfa43@computer>
Message-ID: <003801c1dcbe$7f29d730$3ec13d04@bobhome>
forcing u to upload all of ur logs is a stupid move in my opinion
becuz that sends a endless stream of eqsls to stations that
have no interest in getting them .... like me!
why do i need 20 qsls from k7qq each contest season??
or from other domestic contest stns??
i have not uploaded any of my annual 30k plus contest
qsos to eqsl for this very reason ....... i saw eqsl as a great tool to
respond to the constant drone of incoming qsl requests
that follow/plague contesters ........
i want to support the paper chasers in the hobby in exchage for their wking
me in the contests ......... but now it looks like this
can't be done without uploading the logs?
lifes a bitch and then u die!
de w7gg/ai7b/ww7or
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
To: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:42 PM
Subject: Fw: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> Quacks
> I find that in most cases where I have one that isn't correct its is
simply
> a bad time or band in the Log that I uploaded or his log. When U reject
> just put in the time shown in Ur log and if he wants the card he can
obtain
> it that way. I don't even look at the ards that come thru. I respond
when
> I get SASE /$ I have 5 years of cards at the buro that I may get some
day.
> I load logs to e-QSL right after a contest so I don't have to confirm
them.
> The recient chang at e-QSL makes for a bigger job but no BFD. I still am
> tring to work WAS.
>
> Quack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ted demopoulos" <kr1g@hotmail.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 03:10
> Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> > Jim,
> >
> > You are not quite right, although close. If the times are off or
something
> > else is wrong (and you probably won't know what, just that you worked
> > P5/KR1G on 160 and the logs have been submitted and you don't have
> credit),
> > you would de *exactly* what you do today - send P5/KR1G's QSL manager,
> > KC1XX, a note saying "man I know I'm in the log can you double check
> > please?" And Matt may find a problem, like your call K1IR was logged
> > correctly on the cheap one-ply toilet paper KR1G used for logging
because
> > his laptop ran erratically on P5 power but copied into the computer log
> > incorrectly.
> >
> > As far as being too strict, blame me!! The biggest strength and reason
for
> > the prestige of the DXCC program is its security - yes, you can scam it.
> > Print your own DL, and G and EA6 and PYOF cards and submit them and
> they'll
> > probably pass. Try that with a P5 or VU7 card and it gets *much* harder.
> > They do catch cheaters quite often I'm told. Any eQSL system MUST be at
> > least as secure! If its too secure and a too much of a hassle (the two
go
> > hand in hand), it can be loosened later. We did consider possible (in
some
> > cases probable) attacks and some of the "features" are designed
especially
> > for them. Yes, I am Paranoid - its my job :)
> >
> > 73
> > Ted KR1G
> >
> > >From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
> > >To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> > >
> > >Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we
> can
> > >call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the
> point?
> > >If
> > >you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We
submit
> > >the
> > >information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review
> > >their
> > >logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one,
> but
> > >I
> > >don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks
> are
> > >off
> > >by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line
> QSL -
> > >no
> > >QSO - and no way to track it.
> > >
> > >What do the DXCC Rules say?
> > >
> > >"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply,
> > >written
> > >proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be
> > >submitted
> > >directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . .
Staff
> > >may
> > >accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
> > >
> > >and,
> > >
> > >"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call
> > >signs of
> > >both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and
date,
> > >time
> > >and band."
> > >
> > >For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
> > >solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new
double-blind
> > >confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic
QSLing.
> > >
> > >It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure
to
> > >get
> > >them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether
> printed
> > >or
> > >electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
> > >
> > >Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL
> DXCC
> > >policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
> > >accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
> > >
> > >73,
> > >
> > >Jim Idelson K1IR
> > >email k1ir@designet.com
> > >web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >CQ-Contest mailing list
> > >CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > >http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From yt3t at absolutok.net Fri Apr 5 20:17:28 2002
From: yt3t@absolutok.net (Kele YT3T)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL problem option - ALL INCLUSIVE
References: <200204050401.g35413Al001366@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000001c1dcd0$e5ab4680$9de45d50@pentium>
For those who do not have time to go through all the troubles of having
their cards received at other end:
NEW, ALL INCLUSIVE
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YT1WW is offering the following service:
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YT1WW is managing YU QSL bureau for more than 20 years.
YU1AO is designing and printing (nice) cards for more than 20 years, and
some
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Isn't this cheap?
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73
Kele
YU1AO, YT3T, N2KAB
email to yt3t@absolutok.net
(QSLing is excellent marketing strategy for your next contest score)
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Fri Apr 5 15:07:33 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] qsl's
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEJDDEAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
An interesting forum, to discuss ARRL's impact on
eQSL policy.
This is a real conundrum; my reason for using
eQSL was simplicity of providing courtesy responses
to folks I'd worked.
While I DO log dx, and have 300+ worked, I have zero
confirmed. Well...ok, I threw out 250 or so, from my
old address, and have worked over 300 since moving to
VT....and yes, over a hundred HAVE sent paper cards since
then....but WHO CARES?
It's not about pieces of paper, it's about people.
I like swapping .jpg's with folks I work, and knowing
a bit more about them, WHILE I work them (thank you,
qrz.com).
Am I simply off in a corner, here? The ARRL program is
meaningless to me. eQSL's utility has been reduced
substantially since the change.
Fie on the bloody lot of them. What shall we do next?
Jim Jarvis
N2EA
>From k1mk at arrl.net Fri Apr 5 12:22:49 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID:
<20020405122256.5465.c002-h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Jim,
Jim Idelson wrote:
> However, if there is a desire to increase the rigor in QSL
requirements for
> DXCC and other awards, such a decision and discussion should be taken
up by the
> DXCC team with significant input from those involved in the DXCC
program. It
> should not be implemented via an end-run by the QSL technologists.
That rigor would appear to already be there, at least in public
statements if not enforcement.
The DXCC Program has characterized preemptive QSLing even with paper
cards as a "poor QSLing practice" that should be discouraged; at least
when it's practiced by rare DX stations.
Now, it doesn't seem to be of much concern that individual contesters
from "common" entities preemptively send out multiple thousands of
unsolicited cards via the bureau annually. A very low percentage of
those cards are likely to ever make their way back in an appliction to
the DXCC Desk (or field checking).
Also, with paper cards the fact that the first of two cards exchanged is
an unsolicited confirmation doesn't seem to matter. The initial card in
an exchange of QSLs is typically not the one with which the DXCC Desk is
concerned, particularly at the higher achievement levels.
Likewise, responding to incoming cards without consulting a log is
another example of what was described as "poor QSLing practice". It
might be seen as a courtesy or convienience when practiced between
stations in non-rare entities, but if it became known that a station
from a "rare" entity sent out cards without checking a log or didn't
keep a log, DXCC credit for contacts with that station might well be
denied.
Yes, those would seem to be very much of a double-standard; which are
not internally self-consistent. If DXCC has a more rigorous set of
self-imposed standards (or suggested practices) for how QSLs from "rare
DX" should be generated which differ from the typical practices employed
by us "commoners", then it should not be that much of a surprise that a
single, uniform protocol enforced by LoTW would be based upon the
higher, more rigorous standards and suggested practices of the DXCC
Program rather that emulating the practices in common use.
Remember LoTW is firstly a front-end for DXCC and other ARRL awards
programs. It satifies the requirements needed to perform those functions
very well. But it is not necessarily the best or most general model for
how to define and implement an open standard for portable, forge-proof
electronic confirmations.
> The current approach might be great for the dedicated, web-savvy,
hard-core
> DXers among us; but it is not going to be particularly attractive to
the
> newcomers and casual operators that dominate our ranks. The
requirement to
> upload electronic logs in order to receive QSLs will filter out
thousands of
> potential users.
The current approach would not prevent a casual user from sending QSO
information for a single contact, just like sending an individual card.
Could easily do that from a web form: type in your QSO data, click send.
Anyone can create their own version of what they think this UI should
look like because the upload is by means of e-mail or http. And the
upload could even go via a third-party since it does not have to take
place over a validated or otherwise secured connection.
Unless there is a change in philosophy what is unlikely to happen is to
be told "You've Got QSL" and be provided with the full QSO details.
> Want to ensure that confirmations of rare DX QSOs are harder to forge?
Put
> special requirements on certain DXpedition logs, extremely rare
countries, etc.
How about only requiring the user submit double-blind matching QSLs for
new band/mode countries? Might work if LoTW were only intended to be
used for DXCC. It's not.
Plans are to expand LoTW to include the other ARRL awards programs, so
you'd need to also exclude viewing of unsolicited, unmatched QSLs from
new states, grids, etc. Over the longer term there is a consideration of
marketing LoTW data or awards checking services to outside customers.
Can't compromise the integerity and potential marketability of the
database, so the genie can never be let of the bottle.
This whole issue of double-blind originates with the scenario that by
going to electronic confirmations will make the QSLing process so easy
and inexpenisve that preemptive QSLing will become the norm. Why go
through the trouble of checking each card, just upload the logs? It
helps out the other guy, right?
As a result, the thinking goes, many of the "undeserving" will start
receiving unsolicited confirmations for contacts they didn't make
because of the inevitable busted call signs. Remember those? This is
CQ-Contest after all. Some of the weaker individuals out there might be
tempted to submit those unearned confirmations for award credit.
It can happen just as easily with a bureau card despite preemptive
QSLing having been labeled a "poor" practice. It doesn't happen very
often only because most of the rarer DX don't send out a card for every
contact via the bureau; yes, some do.
As I recall, one goal of LoTW was to come up with a process for
electronic conformations that was "more secure" than paper QSLs. Going
double-blind closes off giving out credit for a busted call. Just like
contest log checking.
It's yet another attempting to have a machine enforce ethical behavior.
It's a people problem. Other than personal integrity, there is nothing
to stop two individuals from consipiring to falsify a contact, under the
present system or any future system. But the machine can stop an
individual from fraudulently taking advantage of some else's error. Is
it worth it the inconvience?
Anyone got a different solution?
> But, please don't introduce log transcription or upload requirements
just so we
> can see the QSL for a 20M DL QSO.
Well, I guess we're not supposed to look at the unsolicited DL cards
that arrive via the bureau, either. :-(
73,
Mike K1MK
k1mk@alum.mit.edu
Michael Keane K1MK
k1mk@arrl.net
________________________________________________
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>From k0hb at earthlink.net Fri Apr 5 20:27:52 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New Contesting Radio?
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar> <00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
Message-ID: <001c01c1dcd7$fe2fa820$0215be3f@bigguy>
>From jtolbert at gremlan.org Fri Apr 5 19:18:18 2002
From: jtolbert@gremlan.org (Jamie WW3S)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2 problems I see with eQSL
Message-ID: <011501c1dd00$8e341140$0500000a@bedroom>
I have not been very active with eQSL but had over 600 qsls in my in-box so
I just uploaded my log (about 38,000 qsos in ADIF) to eQSL and surprisingly
only a small amount "matched" what was in my inbox. This means they must be
entered manually to confirm. Two problems I saw was a slight mis-match in
time. EX: I logged at 1923 but other station logged at 1924, this gets
bounced. Bigger problem was they have the contest exchange in the exchanged
field and apparently my programs wont export that so the card in my in-box
displays 599 513 where mine just has 599; again this gets bounced. I'd love
to be able to confirm these 500+ qsos without manually searching the log and
then adding it to my eQSL log but I just don't have the time. You would
think there would be a +/- parameter that could be set so if within "X"
minutes do an auto-confirm.....
73
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Apr 5 19:04:18 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL DX SSB - DX Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020405190201.00aabc00@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 ARRL DX SSB - DX Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: April 2, 2002
E-mail logs to: DXPhone@arrl.org
Mail logs to:
DX Phone Contest
ARRL
225 Main St.
Newington, CT 06111
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX M/2 HP
9A7A 6360 289 5,514,120 CROATIAN CONTEST CLU
HG6N 6028 267 4,828,428
DL6RAI 5459 270 48 4,421,790 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
OA4O 5400 261 4,228,200 RADIO CLUB PERUANO
LY7Z 5119 266 4,000,000 LITHUANIAN DX GROUP
YT9X @YU1AAX 4910 253 3,726,690 YU CONTEST CLUB
EA5DFV 4598 244 44 3,365,736
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX M/M LP
V26S 5036 299 34 4,517,292 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX M/M HP
9A1A 8438 306 48 7,746,084 CROATIAN CONTEST CLU
EA8ZS 5623 303 48 5,111,307 GALDAR CONTEST TEAM
LT1F 4536 241 48 3,270,129 THE BAD POWER
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX M/S LP
KH6/W2EDD @KH6 2470 242 1,793,220
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX M/S HP
VP5B 7746 338 48 7,854,444 TOP OF EUROPE CONTES
FY5KE 7665 328 7,542,360
PJ4G 6122 322 48 5,913,852 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
TM5C 6265 284 5,337,780
6D2YFM 5734 318 48 5,329,004
CT9M 4865 282 48 4,115,790 RHEIN RUHR DX ASSOCI
OM0M 4657 259 3,618,489
OM7M 4301 278 48 3,587,034 LBCC
OE2S 4290 269 40 3,462,030 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
IQ4T 3740 251 48 2,816,220 ROMAGNA CONTEST CLUB
PW0T 4156 225 48 2,805,300 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
SN8V @SP8YMM 3548 240 43 2,554,560
LU1NF 3140 214 45 2,015,880
PI4TUE 2696 223 1,803,624
LA2Z 2675 223 1,789,575
IO4T 2432 241 1,758,336
VK4UC 2369 221 40 1,569,984 WWDXC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOAB QRP
TI5N (W8QZA) 1590 200 40 954,000
F5NOD 519 134 15 208,638
LR7E (LU3DR) 209 88 38 55,176
S54AA 167 84 42,084 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
SM6DER 187 61 9 34,221 HISINGENS RADIOKLUBB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOAB LP
XE2AUB 1700 161 30 821,100
SV1DPI 1467 176 774,576
KL7AC 1449 172 20 747,684
EA6DD 1240 193 717,960
FS/KT8X 1228 162 13 596,808
V51/SP6IXF 845 111 8 281,385 SPDXCLUB
RG9O (RZ9OU) 649 133 258,552
F8AAN 601 124 16 222,084
RD4M (UA4LU) 369 99 109,593
SP1EK 267 89 71,289 SPCC
VA3PC 660 107 70,620
JE1TSD 153 438 32,412
SP8GNF 118 66 23,364
MW5EPA 165 76 5 12,540 CONTEST CAMBRIA
T97M 77 34 7,854 SARAJEVO CONTEST GRO
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOAB HP
8P5A (W2SC) 8211 336 48 8,280,000 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
TI5/VE7CC (VE7 5639 328 40 5,548,776
WP2Z (N2TK) 5190 299 35 4,655,430 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
SN2B (SP2FAX) 5033 266 4,016,334
M6T (G4PIQ) 4515 283 3,830,688 MARTLESHAM DX & CG
NH7A 4541 280 3,814,440
GM4YXI 3915 282 34 3,312,090 NORTH OF SCOTLAND CO
G4BUO 4418 246 33 3,260,484 CHILTERN DX CLUB
HI3/K1CX (KC1X 3515 306 18 3,226,770 ECC
GM7V (GM3WOJ) 3148 249 37 2,351,556 NORTH OF SCOTLAND CG
OE1EMS 3008 228 30 2,057,472
7S2E (SM2DMU) 2660 228 40 1,819,440 TOP OF EUROPE CONTES
RA3AJ 2627 212 1,670,772
RK4FF 1776 194 1,033,050
ZL1ANJ 1036 171 30 531,468
IK4AUY 963 161 11 465,129 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
VK2CZ 1021 125 20 382,875
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOAB(A) LP
7L4IOU 867 162 418,446
9A7P (9A6XX) 627 106 199,386 WORLDWIDE YOUNG CONT
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOAB(A) HP
DK8ZB 2793 282 37 2,362,878 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/10 QRP
SP5XMU 220 46 32 30,360
T91ENS 10 8 240 SARAJEVO CONTEST GRO
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/10 LP
PY2XAT 1799 60 323,820 TUPY DX GROUP
G0AEV 1438 59 254,526
PY2YU 1425 59 252,225
EA7GTF 1393 59 246,561
P40B (P43P) 1313 58 8 228,288 ARUBA AMATEUR RADIO
SP3KEY (SP3DWQ 1115 59 16 197,335
KH6GMP 1078 56 48 181,104 HAWAII DX ASSOCIATIO
S58M 822 59 144,000 SCC
XE1BEF 727 57 124,317
IQ2C (IK2JUB) 623 59 11 110,271 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
S57LWG @S57IIO 607 55 100,000
M0GTO 226 45 8 30,375
YU1ACS (4N1EA) 178 42 20 22,428 YU CONTEST CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/10 HP
ZX5J 3311 61 605,913 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
PJ2K (K6RO) 3179 60 28 572,220 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
ZF2AH (W6VNR) 2914 59 29 515,778
NP3X (KP4WW) 2689 60 484,020 COAMO CONTEST CLUB
9A5Y (9A3LG) 2406 59 425,862
DL1IAO @DL0WW 2432 58 18 423,168 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
DF9ZP 2383 59 421,791 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
S50C (S55OO) 2295 59 406,215 CCS CONTEST CLUB SLO
S50K 2207 60 18 397,260 SCC
YT0A (YT3T) 2244 59 17 397,011
DF3KV 2132 60 19 383,760 RHEIN RUHR DX ASSOCI
IK4MHB 2002 60 360,360 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
S51TA 1814 59 321,078 CCS-CONTEST CLUB SLO
EA3QP 1706 61 15 312,198
UU7J (UT5UT) 1372 59 241,428 CRIMEAN CONTEST CLUB
RZ3AA 1163 60 12 209,340
OM5AW 2850 58 165,300
UA9YAB 566 54 13 91,692
RU9WX 360 49 52,920 BASHKIRIAN DX CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/15 LP
TI7/N4MO (N4MO 1700 59 25 300,900 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
V31MF 1512 60 272,160
PY2NDX 1520 59 269,040
ZV2V (PY2LED) 1252 60 225,360 TUPY DX GROUP
S57IIO 1161 59 205,497
LZ9W (LZ2HM) 1006 59 178,062 LZDXF
SP4DEU 718 58 124,932
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/15 HP
OH6NIO 1741 145 757,335
P40A (KK9A) 3550 59 628,350 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
OK1RI 2481 61 454,023
KL7RA 2661 58 22 447,354
9A1P 2282 59 24 403,914 WORLDWIDE YOUNG CONT
4O6A (Z32AF) 2194 59 388,338 SKY CONTEST CLUB
OH6AC (OH6CS) 2005 61 366,915 CONTEST CLUB OF FINL
OE8SKQ 2002 6012 354,708
ES5RW 1915 59 20 338,955 TARTU CONTEST TEAM
S53MM @S51TA 1779 59 314,883 CCS-CONTEST CLUB SLO
EA3IN 1583 59 280,191
S52ZW 1579 279,483 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
LY6A (LY2BM) 1504 59 266,031
OK1CF 1224 59 216,648
J37K (AC8G) 1170 59 8 207,090
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/160 HP
HA5JI 65 17 3,315
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/20 LP
SM0W (SM0WKA) 1542 59 272,934 CONTEST CLUB OF FINL
IK8UND 607 54 98,334
ZC4DW 63 27 3 5,103 CHILTERN DX CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/20 HP
PY3FOX 193 836 19,383,600 ARACAURIA DX GROUP
OH4A (OH6LI) 2550 62 40 470,000 CONTEST CLUB OF FINL
OH8L (OH8LQ) 2359 62 423,894 CONTEST CLUB OF FINL
S51CK 1266 60 227,880 SCC
PY3FOX 1114 58 193,836 ARACAURIA DX GROUP
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOSB/40 HP
GW7X (GW4BLE) 1156 58 25 201,144 CONTEST CAMBRIA
BA4RF 58 27 4,698
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOSB/80 LP
S57MSU 28 12 1,008
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DX SOSB/80 HP
YV5OHW 703 57 24 120,213
OT2T (ON4UN) 490 42 61,740
S59CAB (S53CC) 409 42 51,534
UZ7U (UT3UA) 202 29 17,574
YT6A 418 37 SKY CONTEST CLUB
Teams:
9A7A 9A8A, 9A7V, 9A6DM, 9A4RX, 9A4PA, 9A4BT, 9A3TR,
9A3OS, 9A2ME
HG6N HA3OV HA6DX HA6ND HA6NF HA6NQ HA6NY HA6PX
DL6RAI DL1MGB, DL2NBU, DL4RDJ, DL6RAI AND DJ5CL
OA4O OA4EI, OA4AHW, OA4BHY, OA4CRK, OA4DII, OA4DIX,
OA4DJW, OA4DKC, OA4DMR (OH0XX), DL1NL
LY7Z LY1DS, LY2TA, LY3MM
YT9X @YU1AAX YT1RU, YT1RA, YZ1KA, YU1JW, YU1ZZ, MARKO
EA5DFV EA5ON EA5CLH EC5CPL EA5DFV
V26S N2WKS KD3TB W3CF
9A1A N4PN, NF4A, 9A5W, 9A3GW, 9A6A, 9A6D, 9A7R,
9A5K, 9A8W, 9A9A
EA8ZS EA8ZS AND GALDAR CONTEST TEAM
LT1F LU1FAM, LU1FGE, LU1FT, LU1FD, LU1FKR, LU3FP,
LU3FZW, LU5FHM, LU6FQD, LU8FOX, LU2FV
KH6/W2EDD @KH AD4J, K3ZM, W4GKA
VP5B K4ISV, K4CN
FY5KE F1HAR F5MZN F6FVY FY5FU FY5FY F5HRY
PJ4G K2NG, K2TW, NO2R
TM5C F6CTT - F5MUX - F5NLY - F5VCO - F4SGU
CT9M CT3BD, CT3DL, CT3EE, CT3EN, CT3HK, CT3IA,
CT3IQ, CT3KU
OM0M OM3BH, OM3CHL, OM8DX, OM8AW
OM7M OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OE2S OE2GEN, OE2LCM, OE2MON, OE2VEL
IQ4T I4IFL I4MNY IK4HVR IK4MGP IK4MGX IK4SXJ IK4WMH
PW0T PY7ZZ, PY7XC, PY5CC, PY5HSD, PT7BZ, PY1RO,
PY0FF, N6FF, PY7ZY
SN8V @SP8YMM SP8GQU, SP8ARY, SP8GWI, SP8LBK, SP8NCF, SQ8BGJ
LU1NF LU1NDC, LU2NI & LU8NA
PI4TUE PA3EZL PE1PRG
LA2Z LA3BO, LA6MV
IO4T IK4RQJ, IK4VET, IK4XCL, IK4ZHH, IK4ALM, IZ4DIJ
VK4UC VK4UC;NO7T
V31MF V31MF/KC5ZT
K4JA K4JA, K4MA, K9JY, KE9I, W3BP, KG9X
KI1G KI1G, K1NG, WF1B,KS1J,K1JN,K1SD,KB1LN
KR1G WA1S NR1DX W1AAX WC1M KR1G
N4TO K1TO, N4DL, N4TO, T93M, T93Y
K1IR AA1AA, K1EP, K1IR, KM2P, W1VE
KB1H KB1H, NB1U, N1XS, K1EBY, AA1CE, KB1DFB, W1TJL,
W3TB, KE1LI
W5KFT W5KFT, W6PH, K5TSQ, K5PI, W5TA, W5JEN, W5TD
VE6SV VE5FN VA6EA VE6AKY VE6EZ VE6NAP VE6RFM VE6SV
K2RD WA1FCN W1CU K2WR K2RD
NK7U NK7U, K7ZO, W7ZRC, WA7LT, KK7A, K7MK
N5TW WM5R NA4M KM5TY N5DUW WS4G W5TD N5TW
VE1JF VE1JF, VE1AI, VE1AMJ, VE1DHD, VE1HC, VE1MOO
AA5NT N3BUO, KK7JS, WD5FLK, N1CC, N5NJ, AA5NT,
KC5LOS, KC5SDY, W5GDC
KK1L KK1L, K1KD, W1SJ, W1DEC, AA1SU, K1WEY, N1ZUK,
K1HD, KC1WH
VE7SCC VE7HHS VA7DX
N3BB W5JEN, W5RQA, W5TA, WR5Q, KD5QJV, N3BB
KC1XX K1GQ W1FV AD1C HC1OT K6AW W1MD W2RQ K1XX
K9NS AA9D,K9DX,K9HMB,K9NO,K9PPY,K9PW,K9QVB,K9RO,
K9RS,KO9A,KS9W,W9RM,WE9V.
W2FU W2FU, K2UA, N2MG, K2AXX, K2DB, K2TER, K1PY
W1FJ @W1KM NB1B, W1KM, N1TB, N1NK, W1NA, W1FJ
N2RM N2RM N2NC WM2H
W3PP W3PP N6ZO K3FT N3KW W2GJ KB3FEE W3PAR N3PT KW3Z
K3ANS K3ANS, N3PUR, N3MX, KB3CBO, K3YD, W3ZL, KC3WX,
W0RSJ
K3NM K3IPK,K3ZV,LU9AY,K3NM
N6RO K3EST, K6RC, K6TA, K6KO, KI7WX, W6SR, N6BV,
N6SNO, N6RO
W4MYA N4DEN, N4EHJ, K4KJL,K4KML,K4WMA,KF4QQY,W4HZ,
W4MYA,WK4Y
W8ZA K3DNE, K8OQL, ND3A, N8II, W8ZA
W2CG W2CG, W2EN, W2NO, K2WJ
K3OO @K3OOO K3OO & K3OOO
K3CT @K3II K3CT, K3II
NY4T NY4T N4LKE W1ADE KR4FO KG4RDF KG4MHK
K8AZ K8AZ, K8BL, K8NZ, ND8L, W8KIC, WB8K, WT8C
W0GU @N2IC N2IC,NA5S,K0KR
W4MR @AA4NC AA4NC, N4YDU, K4HA
K8CC K8CC, K8GL, KE8OC
K5NZ W5BA , K5GA , K5NZ
K0DU K0CL, N0ZA, KC0DKX,K0UK
K2XR K2XR+K2OWR+WB2WIK
NE3F KS3F K3ATO NT3V NG3Z KB3GWY
K5NA K5NA, K5DU, KI5DR, N5ZC, K2UR, NT5C
N5YA N5YA, WX0B, N5KR, K5MR, K5WO, KR5F
K2KQ K2KQ, W2WB
N1MM N1MM, N1IXF
VA3RU VE3NZ VA3RU
KR0B KR0B,NOBKL,KS0T,N0RA,KJ0B,K0KP,KB0KQA
W0ZT W0ZT, K0SR, K0XN
K0TV KB1PZ W1ES NF1A K0TV
N1LN W5MF, K7LEX, W5MJS, N1LN
VE3HG VE3HG, VE3RZ, VA3GGF, VA3EC
W6EEN W6EEN, K6XC, W6AQ, W6ORD
K0FJ K0FJ K0BJ KC0JAO
W3LJ W3IDT K3NCO KA3UBJ W3LJ
K9ES K9ES, AD4ES
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Apr 5 19:04:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL DX SSB - NA Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020405190153.00aa85e0@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 ARRL DX SSB - NA Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: April 2, 2002
E-mail logs to: DXPhone@arrl.org
Mail logs to:
DX Phone Contest
ARRL
225 Main St.
Newington, CT 06111
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA M/2 HP
K4JA 5767 610 48 10,551,780 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
KI1G 5378 576 48 9,291,456 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
KR1G 4964 519 48 7,702,479 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N4TO 4595 537 48 7,397,712 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
K1IR 4393 522 44 6,868,476 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
KB1H 3789 530 6,000,660 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W5KFT 3992 478 48 5,721,660 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
VE6SV 4089 445 5,429,445
K2RD 3580 498 46 5,288,760 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NK7U 3795 434 48 4,916,352
N5TW 3347 441 48 4,343,409 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
VE1JF 3270 435 38 4,267,350
AA5NT 3201 445 4,199,910 NORTH TEXAS CONTEST
KK1L 2487 425 40 3,165,825 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
VE7SCC 1569 334 36 1,572,138 COQUITLAM AMATEUR RA
N3BB 933 291 27 814,509 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
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NA M/M HP
W3LPL 8728 688 17,967,120
KC1XX 8535 672 17,037,216
K9NS 8189 636 48 15,609,348 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
W2FU 6364 595 48 11,359,740 ROCHESTER (NY) DX AS
W1FJ @W1KM 5595 590 9,892,530 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N2RM 5260 565 48 8,902,140 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W3PP 5161 550 48 8,515,650 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3ANS 4562 560 48 7,627,200 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3NM 4742 532 45 7,563,444 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N6RO 4803 497 48 7,150,836 RIVER CITY CONTESTER
W4MYA 4211 568 45 7,069,096 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W8ZA 3441 497 48 5,130,531 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W2CG 2489 464 3,477,216 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3OO @K3OOO 1892 434 24 2,463,385 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3CT @K3II 1642 339 25 1,669,914 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA M/S LP
NY4T 982 284 44 835,812 TENNESSEE CONTEST GR
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NA M/S HP
K8AZ 3137 516 48 4,800,000 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
W0GU @N2IC 3339 458 48 4,586,412 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
W4MR @AA4NC 3250 466 4,543,500 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
K8CC 3018 476 48 4,309,704 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
K5NZ 2871 480 48 4,132,800
K0DU 3289 393 47 3,873,015 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
K2XR 2752 468 48 3,859,596 SCORE!
NE3F 2581 470 3,633,570
K5NA 2585 450 3,439,800 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
N5YA 2579 438 48 3,387,492 NORTH TEXAS CONTEST
K2KQ 2477 446 48 3,314,226 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N1MM 2453 445 48 3,257,400 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
VA3RU 2781 392 3,255,168
KR0B 2512 416 48 3,133,728 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
W0ZT 2249 411 44 2,773,017 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
K0TV 2139 410 2,627,280 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N1LN 1963 405 48 2,385,045 TEXAS DX SOCIETY
W2YC @AA2WN 1684 449 48 2,268,348 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
VE3HG 1731 408 46 2,113,848
W6EEN 1488 328 48 1,462,224 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
K0FJ 1342 330 37 1,326,600
W3LJ 965 297 38 859,815
K9ES 286 79 25 67,308 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
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NA SOAB QRP
N4KG 922 283 32 782,778
K7MM 735 219 482,895
N3GXY 360 156 25 168,480
KI0II 276 135 111,780 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
K8ZT 207 123 76,014
NQ7X 208 102 12 63,648 AZ SCQRPIONS
W9HL 132 86 34,056 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
WB6BWZ 129 80 7 30,960 SOUTH EAST CONTEST C
N7IR 91 51 3 13,923 CENTRAL ARIZONA DX A
WD4OAY 60 44 19 7,920
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOAB LP
VA3UZ 1767 343 34 1,807,953 U-VE CONTEST CLUB
AC0W 1620 335 43 1,628,100 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N1SV 1454 345 1,508,890 YCCC
K8EP 1508 320 42 1,447,680
N5AW 1419 339 41 1,443,123 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
N4TZ/9 (N4TZ) 1355 344 1,398,360 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K1VR 1280 345 36 1,324,800 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
K1VUT 1297 305 37 1,186,755 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
VE5SF 1076 260 26 826,800
N0FP 857 243 28 624,753 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N6WIN @W6KK 819 243 29 597,051
W3LL 691 267 28 553,491 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W7YAQ 822 224 19 552,384 WVDXC
K0XH 808 227 40 550,248 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N1LW 733 244 536,556 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
K9JLS @AI9U 741 237 30 526,851 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K1HT 690 245 14 507,150 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N2GA 723 229 15 496,701 ORDER OF BOILED OWLS
VE4YU 709 213 452,412
W2ENY 596 251 448,788 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
W3SE 617 237 438,687 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
VE7FO 736 200 31 427,800
WS7V 671 204 410,652
NX9T 605 211 10 382,965 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
WN3VAW 545 233 24 380,955 WIRELESS ASSOCIATION
K8IA 578 219 20 379,746
VE3AGC 583 215 30 376,035 GOLDEN HORSESHOE DX
VA3TTT 570 204 342,720
NS4W @K4UCF 542 198 321,948 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
N9XX 563 188 317,532 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K1VSJ 518 191 10 296,814 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N6EM 587 168 295,344 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
K3OX 428 219 11 281,196
K8KHZ 495 180 265,680 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
W1DAD 427 207 265,167 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
AA1UT 443 190 29 252,510
WA7YAZ 499 157 235,029
W0RK 428 177 20 227,268
AA6PW 404 163 14 197,556 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
KW7N 399 162 193,914
AB2E 344 175 180,600
KE4KMG 334 134 133,464 TCG
W8DRZ 321 132 27 127,116 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
W4/VE3BUC (VE3 268 131 9 105,324 SNOWBIRD MOBILE
W1AMF 280 122 8 102,480
NS3T 214 158 15 101,436
AB0MV 239 122 87,474 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
K8GT 226 125 84,750 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
K1VU 169 97 49,179 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N7XY 136 109 7 44,472 WWDXC
WA4PXP @W4MQ 97 97 10 28,227
VO1MX 118 75 2 26,325
W7UQ (KL9A) 217 39 4 25,389 WORLDWIDE YOUNG CONT
K2CC (KC2BMG) 120 70 24,780
W6ZZZ 45 35 4,725 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
WA2PQE 25 20 7 1,500
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOAB HP
KQ2M 4403 503 45 6,642,618 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K5ZD (KM3T) 3887 464 42 5,405,136
VE3EJ 3656 487 44 5,265,444 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K4ZW 3868 451 47 5,233,404 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W9RE 3907 453 5,187,000 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
N2NT 3493 466 48 4,880,418 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
VY2SS (K6LA) 3505 401 48 4,216,515 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
AA1K 3211 415 48 3,997,695 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
WB9Z 3045 434 45 3,964,590 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K3ZO 3164 413 40 3,920,196 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
K5TR 3010 410 46 3,702,300 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
N9RV 3141 381 32 3,584,448 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K1KI (KM1P) 2823 324 35 2,879,982 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W7GG 2619 361 41 2,788,725 WVDXC
K4AB 2411 380 2,748,540 SOUTH EAST CONTEST C
K9ZO (KB9UWU) 2051 351 40 2,159,703 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
W6UE (W4EF) 2126 341 42 2,139,093 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
W4WTB 1544 351 35 1,625,832
VO1WET 2055 253 20 1,555,191
K8AL 1423 361 29 1,541,109 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K3MD 1411 331 31 1,401,123 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N0KV 1484 305 35 1,347,795
N2GC 1294 322 28 1,250,004 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N3HXQ 1306 306 39 1,188,810 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
N6ZZ 1614 241 25 1,156,077
N1JP 1166 312 26 1,091,376 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
K4BAI 1438 252 1,087,128 SOUTH EAST CONTEST C
KI9A @K0LIR 1248 97 28 1,063,296 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K0OU 1047 297 29 932,877 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K2BX 1009 290 20 877,830 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W1AO 1006 285 18 860,130 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W9JA 808 330 24 799,920
N6CCL 829 276 683,100 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
KI6CG 874 230 24 602,370 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
AD8J 748 237 16 531,828 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K6LRN 659 237 468,549 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
K1TEO 771 196 7 453,348
W0ZQ 648 227 441,288 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N8PW 657 220 28 432,960 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K5XR (W5ASP) 740 195 432,900 TEXAS DX SOCIETY
K5YAA 713 178 18 380,742 OKLAHOMA DX ASSOCIAT
NR7DX (K7ABV) 602 206 15 372,036 NORTHERN ROCKIES DX
K3VA 505 231 349,965 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
KO7X @KI7WX 305 154 5 140,910 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W4NZ 321 137 8 131,931 TENNESSEE CONTEST GR
VE5CPU 147 65 4 28,665
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOAB(A) LP
NA2U 1261 329 30 1,244,607 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W0LSD 1055 289 30 914,685
K5IID 995 298 31 889,530 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
N6WS 908 314 30 854,394 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
WO1N 709 335 22 712,545 YU CONTEST CLUB
K0UK 669 317 636,219 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
K0PC 590 226 19 400,200 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N1NB 554 236 16 392,232 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
KB1GW 626 195 22 365,626 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
WN6K 528 228 15 361,152 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
K9GY 460 94 129,720 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K6KYJ 294 139 19 122,598 WIRED LIL' PISTOLS
N3SD 252 152 114,912 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOAB(A) HP
KE2TR 1934 414 40 24,000,786
K3WW 3356 523 48 5,265,564 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W2RE 3239 506 45 4,915,284 HVCDX
K2DM 2514 453 39 3,415,167 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W1GD 2278 448 38 3,061,632
W2GDJ 2201 433 40 2,859,099 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N8TR 2015 471 40 2,847,195 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K5KG 2046 430 38 2,638,050 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
AA3B 2051 408 39 2,510,424 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3PP 1848 381 32 2,112,264 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W3MF 1688 408 26 2,066,112 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N0AV 1361 385 24 1,570,800
N8KM 1465 357 40 1,569,015 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
N3ZA 1204 416 38 1,502,592 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
VE1OP 1417 346 28 1,462,542
K8LN 1232 363 24 1,341,648 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
ND5S 1018 427 23 1,302,777 GREAT LAKES DX / CON
WT3W 1134 349 24 1,187,298 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K1GU 1142 335 36 1,147,710 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
K0KX 1116 338 16 1,128,582 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
W8CAR 1256 269 20 1,013,592 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
W3GH 1012 311 1,012,305
N2CY 1037 306 27 951,966 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W6TK 1023 304 19 930,240 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
KA2D 1046 292 27 916,926 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W3GM (K3ND) 929 313 19 872,331 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N0XB 1072 270 24 867,510 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
K1JE 890 288 768,096 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NX5M 700 308 9 646,800 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
AA4V 783 266 11 623,238 CAROLINA DX ASSOCIAT
W3IQ 837 221 554,931 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
KI6T 709 245 521,115 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
NA2M 555 260 432,900 ORDER OF BOILED OWLS
W2UP 552 261 5 432,216 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K7OX 548 235 385,635
KD2HE 530 201 319,590
K6RIM 429 226 290,862 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
KC0CZI 422 158 12 198,132
WC1M 381 165 5 188,595 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
AB1R 262 152 13 119,016
KW8W 158 106 5 50,244 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
WO9S 127 63 24,003 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/10 QRP
K6III 158 56 26,544 NCCC
W6RCL 140 43 18,060
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/10 LP
W7ZR 936 116 24 325,728 WVDXC
N6MU @N6NB 932 109 304,764 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
W7UT 721 114 246,582 UTAH'S DIXIE DX & CO
W0ETC 775 104 15 241,800 TENNESSEE CONTEST GR
N7CZ 410 80 98,400
KS2G 414 76 7 94,392 ORDER OF BOILED OWLS
N2CU 374 84 8 94,248 WESTERN NEW YORK DX
KN0V 253 759 53,889 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
WA7BNM 100 54 2 16,200 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/10 HP
W4ZV 2212 135 31 895,860 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W5PR 2102 134 845,004 TEXAS DX SOCIETY
K9NW @K9UWA 1973 123 30 728,037 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
VO1MP 1795 116 624,660
K7XZ (K1MY) 1715 115 30 591,330 CENTRAL ARIZONA DX A
K7QQ 1624 113 550,536 WWDXC
K5AM 1606 111 534,798
N3HBX 1708 103 527,772 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
VA7XX 1534 112 514,752
N6ED 1300 119 464,100
VE6JY (TI2WGO) 977 111 325,008
K3JT 1044 99 309,474 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
N7YX 680 110 20 223,410 WWDXC
K8IR 479 89 17 127,626 BAY AREA WIRELESS AS
N5KB 174 76 39,672 NORTH TEXAS CONTEST
W4ZYT 127 55 2 20,955 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/15 LP
VE3RCN 175 65 24 34,125
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/15 HP
VE6WQ @VE6JY 277 136 1,048,152
N3RD @N3RS 2286 146 1,001,268 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N2TX 2183 142 929,532 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W7WA 2297 132 909,612 WWDXC
K6HNZ 1295 109 423,465
AD4L @N4AF 1196 118 30 423,384 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W4SAA 320 84 14 80,720 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/20 LP
W5ZO 377 92 105,182
K0FX 234 79 5 55,458 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
VA3WN 72 42 3 8,946
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/20 HP
N7DD 1344 124 499,596
WW4M @N4AF 1161 105 365,400 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
K4XDX 726 114 24 246,114
VE6EX @VE6JY 818 99 38 225,720
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/40 LP
W4NC (N4VHK) 100 47 10 14,100 CAROLINA DX ASSOCIAT
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/40 HP
K4XS 856 92 29 236,256 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
VA6MA (VE6MAA) 309 72 66,744
KD4RH 116 52 12 18,096 CAROLINA DX ASSOCIAT
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/80 HP
VA6DXR (VE6JY) 37 24 2,592
Teams:
9A7A 9A8A, 9A7V, 9A6DM, 9A4RX, 9A4PA, 9A4BT, 9A3TR,
9A3OS, 9A2ME
HG6N HA3OV HA6DX HA6ND HA6NF HA6NQ HA6NY HA6PX
DL6RAI DL1MGB, DL2NBU, DL4RDJ, DL6RAI AND DJ5CL
OA4O OA4EI, OA4AHW, OA4BHY, OA4CRK, OA4DII, OA4DIX,
OA4DJW, OA4DKC, OA4DMR (OH0XX), DL1NL
LY7Z LY1DS, LY2TA, LY3MM
YT9X @YU1AAX YT1RU, YT1RA, YZ1KA, YU1JW, YU1ZZ, MARKO
EA5DFV EA5ON EA5CLH EC5CPL EA5DFV
V26S N2WKS KD3TB W3CF
9A1A N4PN, NF4A, 9A5W, 9A3GW, 9A6A, 9A6D, 9A7R,
9A5K, 9A8W, 9A9A
EA8ZS EA8ZS AND GALDAR CONTEST TEAM
LT1F LU1FAM, LU1FGE, LU1FT, LU1FD, LU1FKR, LU3FP,
LU3FZW, LU5FHM, LU6FQD, LU8FOX, LU2FV
KH6/W2EDD @KH AD4J, K3ZM, W4GKA
VP5B K4ISV, K4CN
FY5KE F1HAR F5MZN F6FVY FY5FU FY5FY F5HRY
PJ4G K2NG, K2TW, NO2R
TM5C F6CTT - F5MUX - F5NLY - F5VCO - F4SGU
CT9M CT3BD, CT3DL, CT3EE, CT3EN, CT3HK, CT3IA,
CT3IQ, CT3KU
OM0M OM3BH, OM3CHL, OM8DX, OM8AW
OM7M OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OE2S OE2GEN, OE2LCM, OE2MON, OE2VEL
IQ4T I4IFL I4MNY IK4HVR IK4MGP IK4MGX IK4SXJ IK4WMH
PW0T PY7ZZ, PY7XC, PY5CC, PY5HSD, PT7BZ, PY1RO,
PY0FF, N6FF, PY7ZY
SN8V @SP8YMM SP8GQU, SP8ARY, SP8GWI, SP8LBK, SP8NCF, SQ8BGJ
LU1NF LU1NDC, LU2NI & LU8NA
PI4TUE PA3EZL PE1PRG
LA2Z LA3BO, LA6MV
IO4T IK4RQJ, IK4VET, IK4XCL, IK4ZHH, IK4ALM, IZ4DIJ
VK4UC VK4UC;NO7T
V31MF V31MF/KC5ZT
K4JA K4JA, K4MA, K9JY, KE9I, W3BP, KG9X
KI1G KI1G, K1NG, WF1B,KS1J,K1JN,K1SD,KB1LN
KR1G WA1S NR1DX W1AAX WC1M KR1G
N4TO K1TO, N4DL, N4TO, T93M, T93Y
K1IR AA1AA, K1EP, K1IR, KM2P, W1VE
KB1H KB1H, NB1U, N1XS, K1EBY, AA1CE, KB1DFB, W1TJL,
W3TB, KE1LI
W5KFT W5KFT, W6PH, K5TSQ, K5PI, W5TA, W5JEN, W5TD
VE6SV VE5FN VA6EA VE6AKY VE6EZ VE6NAP VE6RFM VE6SV
K2RD WA1FCN W1CU K2WR K2RD
NK7U NK7U, K7ZO, W7ZRC, WA7LT, KK7A, K7MK
N5TW WM5R NA4M KM5TY N5DUW WS4G W5TD N5TW
VE1JF VE1JF, VE1AI, VE1AMJ, VE1DHD, VE1HC, VE1MOO
AA5NT N3BUO, KK7JS, WD5FLK, N1CC, N5NJ, AA5NT,
KC5LOS, KC5SDY, W5GDC
KK1L KK1L, K1KD, W1SJ, W1DEC, AA1SU, K1WEY, N1ZUK,
K1HD, KC1WH
VE7SCC VE7HHS VA7DX
N3BB W5JEN, W5RQA, W5TA, WR5Q, KD5QJV, N3BB
KC1XX K1GQ W1FV AD1C HC1OT K6AW W1MD W2RQ K1XX
K9NS AA9D,K9DX,K9HMB,K9NO,K9PPY,K9PW,K9QVB,K9RO,
K9RS,KO9A,KS9W,W9RM,WE9V.
W2FU W2FU, K2UA, N2MG, K2AXX, K2DB, K2TER, K1PY
W1FJ @W1KM NB1B, W1KM, N1TB, N1NK, W1NA, W1FJ
N2RM N2RM N2NC WM2H
W3PP W3PP N6ZO K3FT N3KW W2GJ KB3FEE W3PAR N3PT KW3Z
K3ANS K3ANS, N3PUR, N3MX, KB3CBO, K3YD, W3ZL, KC3WX,
W0RSJ
K3NM K3IPK,K3ZV,LU9AY,K3NM
N6RO K3EST, K6RC, K6TA, K6KO, KI7WX, W6SR, N6BV,
N6SNO, N6RO
W4MYA N4DEN, N4EHJ, K4KJL,K4KML,K4WMA,KF4QQY,W4HZ,
W4MYA,WK4Y
W8ZA K3DNE, K8OQL, ND3A, N8II, W8ZA
W2CG W2CG, W2EN, W2NO, K2WJ
K3OO @K3OOO K3OO & K3OOO
K3CT @K3II K3CT, K3II
NY4T NY4T N4LKE W1ADE KR4FO KG4RDF KG4MHK
K8AZ K8AZ, K8BL, K8NZ, ND8L, W8KIC, WB8K, WT8C
W0GU @N2IC N2IC,NA5S,K0KR
W4MR @AA4NC AA4NC, N4YDU, K4HA
K8CC K8CC, K8GL, KE8OC
K5NZ W5BA , K5GA , K5NZ
K0DU K0CL, N0ZA, KC0DKX,K0UK
K2XR K2XR+K2OWR+WB2WIK
NE3F KS3F K3ATO NT3V NG3Z KB3GWY
K5NA K5NA, K5DU, KI5DR, N5ZC, K2UR, NT5C
N5YA N5YA, WX0B, N5KR, K5MR, K5WO, KR5F
K2KQ K2KQ, W2WB
N1MM N1MM, N1IXF
VA3RU VE3NZ VA3RU
KR0B KR0B,NOBKL,KS0T,N0RA,KJ0B,K0KP,KB0KQA
W0ZT W0ZT, K0SR, K0XN
K0TV KB1PZ W1ES NF1A K0TV
N1LN W5MF, K7LEX, W5MJS, N1LN
VE3HG VE3HG, VE3RZ, VA3GGF, VA3EC
W6EEN W6EEN, K6XC, W6AQ, W6ORD
K0FJ K0FJ K0BJ KC0JAO
W3LJ W3IDT K3NCO KA3UBJ W3LJ
K9ES K9ES, AD4ES
>From K4tmc at aol.com Fri Apr 5 22:27:18 2002
From: K4tmc@aol.com (K4tmc@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Huntsville, AL
Message-ID: <d3.976099e.29dfc516@aol.com>
Any contesters in the Huntsville area? I'll be in town visiting Wyle Labs
for a few days and wondering if there are any local club meetings happening.
Or, would anyone be interested in contest strategy discussions during dinner
one evening?
73,
Henry Pollock - K4TMC
Raleigh, NC
>From k7qq at netzero.net Sat Apr 6 06:47:34 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <00ee01c1dd2f$ca75be40$fb1dfa43@computer>
Hey Bob U can do like I do Archieve them then U have too many per band file
to even look at them
QUACK
----- Original Message -----
From: <bob.wruble@verizon.net>
To: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>; "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 17:25
Subject: Re: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> forcing u to upload all of ur logs is a stupid move in my opinion
> becuz that sends a endless stream of eqsls to stations that
> have no interest in getting them .... like me!
> why do i need 20 qsls from k7qq each contest season??
> or from other domestic contest stns??
>
> i have not uploaded any of my annual 30k plus contest
> qsos to eqsl for this very reason ....... i saw eqsl as a great tool to
> respond to the constant drone of incoming qsl requests
> that follow/plague contesters ........
>
> i want to support the paper chasers in the hobby in exchage for their
wking
> me in the contests ......... but now it looks like this
> can't be done without uploading the logs?
>
> lifes a bitch and then u die!
>
> de w7gg/ai7b/ww7or
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
> To: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:42 PM
> Subject: Fw: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> > Quacks
> > I find that in most cases where I have one that isn't correct its is
> simply
> > a bad time or band in the Log that I uploaded or his log. When U reject
> > just put in the time shown in Ur log and if he wants the card he can
> obtain
> > it that way. I don't even look at the ards that come thru. I respond
> when
> > I get SASE /$ I have 5 years of cards at the buro that I may get some
> day.
> > I load logs to e-QSL right after a contest so I don't have to confirm
> them.
> > The recient chang at e-QSL makes for a bigger job but no BFD. I still
am
> > tring to work WAS.
> >
> > Quack
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ted demopoulos" <kr1g@hotmail.com>
> > To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 03:10
> > Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> >
> >
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > > You are not quite right, although close. If the times are off or
> something
> > > else is wrong (and you probably won't know what, just that you worked
> > > P5/KR1G on 160 and the logs have been submitted and you don't have
> > credit),
> > > you would de *exactly* what you do today - send P5/KR1G's QSL manager,
> > > KC1XX, a note saying "man I know I'm in the log can you double check
> > > please?" And Matt may find a problem, like your call K1IR was logged
> > > correctly on the cheap one-ply toilet paper KR1G used for logging
> because
> > > his laptop ran erratically on P5 power but copied into the computer
log
> > > incorrectly.
> > >
> > > As far as being too strict, blame me!! The biggest strength and reason
> for
> > > the prestige of the DXCC program is its security - yes, you can scam
it.
> > > Print your own DL, and G and EA6 and PYOF cards and submit them and
> > they'll
> > > probably pass. Try that with a P5 or VU7 card and it gets *much*
harder.
> > > They do catch cheaters quite often I'm told. Any eQSL system MUST be
at
> > > least as secure! If its too secure and a too much of a hassle (the two
> go
> > > hand in hand), it can be loosened later. We did consider possible (in
> some
> > > cases probable) attacks and some of the "features" are designed
> especially
> > > for them. Yes, I am Paranoid - its my job :)
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Ted KR1G
> > >
> > > >From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
> > > >To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> > > >
> > > >Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what
we
> > can
> > > >call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the
> > point?
> > > >If
> > > >you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We
> submit
> > > >the
> > > >information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations
review
> > > >their
> > > >logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good
one,
> > but
> > > >I
> > > >don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our
clocks
> > are
> > > >off
> > > >by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line
> > QSL -
> > > >no
> > > >QSO - and no way to track it.
> > > >
> > > >What do the DXCC Rules say?
> > > >
> > > >"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV
apply,
> > > >written
> > > >proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be
> > > >submitted
> > > >directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . .
> Staff
> > > >may
> > > >accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are
adopted."
> > > >
> > > >and,
> > > >
> > > >"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the
call
> > > >signs of
> > > >both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and
> date,
> > > >time
> > > >and band."
> > > >
> > > >For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX
station -
> > > >solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new
> double-blind
> > > >confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic
> QSLing.
> > > >
> > > >It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a
pleasure
> to
> > > >get
> > > >them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether
> > printed
> > > >or
> > > >electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed
country.
> > > >
> > > >Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL
> > DXCC
> > > >policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
> > > >accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
> > > >
> > > >73,
> > > >
> > > >Jim Idelson K1IR
> > > >email k1ir@designet.com
> > > >web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
> > > >
> > > >_______________________________________________
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> > > >CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > > >http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> > >
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
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> > > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> > >
> >
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> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
>
>From ei4hq at qsl.net Sat Apr 6 08:22:35 2002
From: ei4hq@qsl.net (Cormac, EI4HQ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re eQSL change of policy...
Message-ID: <005001c1dd3b$d3e08440$0200a8c0@CormacGebruers>
I've been following this thread with some interest. I've some clarifications if
I may. All the questions below relate to statements made in emails on this
thread...
Is it the case that US stations are not required to maintain a general logbook
of all contacts?
How is eQSL "charging" for "free" QSL's?
How is eQSL effectively behaving as a QSL manager?
Cormac, EI4HQ
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>From BobK8IA at aol.com Sat Apr 6 07:23:24 2002
From: BobK8IA@aol.com (BobK8IA@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New Contesting Radio?
Message-ID: <1a8.421a45.29e042bc@aol.com>
>From http://www.tentec.com/TT565.htm
"Instant Two Radio Mode" allows ORION to instantly QSY between two different
bands. Two linear amplifiers, two sets of accessory devices via dual band data
outputs and two antennas can optionally be connected to ORION to allow
instantaneous QSY.
Unfortunately is still "looks like a TenTec"
73, de Hans, K0HB
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Hi Hans;
I guess I've been away from contesting too long as I didnt realize that they
gave points for how sexy the radio one is competing with looks! <g>
Seriously, if a radio yields the perfomance and flexiblility necessary for
that competitive "edge" I couldnt care less what it looks like. And
competition is why we all subscribe to this thread, right?
Nope, I am not a Ten Tec user/owner but the Orion certainly intirgues me.
Take care..see ya
73, Bob K8IA
Michigan USA
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Sat Apr 6 07:20:29 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New Contesting Radio?
In-Reply-To: <001c01c1dcd7$fe2fa820$0215be3f@bigguy>
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020406071307.02516ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 08:27 PM 4/5/02 +0100, K0HB wrote:
>Unfortunately is still "looks like a TenTec"
Yeah, but ... It looks as if they have clearly given ergonomics a lot more
thought than Yaesu et al. Look where the knobs are -- no important
controls on little bitty knobs along the bottom edge of the radio where you
almost need tweezers to get at them. No letting the shape of the previous
panel casting drive the new control layout...
Also, cascading narrow crystal filters in the first IF with IF DSP further
back sure makes sense to this layman, compared to wide roofing filters with
the sharpness at the back end -- if it works as described, there may be a
lot of MPs and Mark V's on the used market.
>From k7qq at netzero.net Sat Apr 6 16:41:28 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: K6III has rejected one of your eQSL log entries
Message-ID: <013a01c1dd81$c8332800$fb1dfa43@computer>
Quacks
I don't have any logs prior to 1997 in ADIF format so I just tell those
prior to that date no chance of confirmation.
I have found that by sending an e-mail to some rejections with date, time,
and band they are able to get confirmation if they desire. Its a bit of a
hassle, but part of the price of contesting. I have 44K Q's uploaded and
have maybe looked at 2 or 3 that have come in via e-qsl.
Don't complain guys just archieve them and delete the reject messages from
e-QSL if its too much bother.
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: <k6iii@juno.com>
To: <k7qq@netzero.net>
Cc: <k6iii@arrl.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 06:59
Subject: Re: K6III has rejected one of your eQSL log entries
> Yea, right.... need another eQSL like a....
> The new eQSL inbox format is not my idea of the way to go, but, then I
> guess that's the price to get the accredited for DXCC, etc...
>
> Trying to find old logs from 12-13 years ago is a no go...
>
> 73 es see u in the next contest.
>
> de Jerry/k6iii
> San Jose, CA
> On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 06:30:33 +0100 "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net> writes:
> > Tnx 100"s of Q's in contest I really need this confirmation HA HA.
> > 73 and
> > CU in the next one
> > Quack
>
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Apr 6 13:54:36 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re eQSL change of policy...
References: <200204061702.g36H2XAl032110@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <005201c1dd9c$c477b260$03010a0a@office1>
Cormac,
Good questions. Short answers:
1. For many years, the US FCC has not legally required us to keep a
logbook -- and some don't. We are encouraged to do so but it's no longer a
legal requirement.
2. eQSL will print and mail a QSL that has been put in your electronic "in
box." Right now this is only available in North America. They will charge,
at present, $1 per card, with a $5 minimum charge to set up your "account."
3. If anyone prints a QSL card with your call on it, and sends out that
card based on your log, they are acting as a QSL Manager. eQSL's present
system of charging for cards means that they are doing just that, since the
printed card is based on your log. This is why many amateurs have now
pulled their logs from eQSL.cc.
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cormac, EI4HQ" <ei4hq@qsl.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re eQSL change of policy...
I've been following this thread with some interest. I've some
clarifications if I may. All the questions below relate to statements
made in emails on this thread...
Is it the case that US stations are not required to maintain a general
logbook of all contacts?
How is eQSL "charging" for "free" QSL's?
How is eQSL effectively behaving as a QSL manager?
Cormac, EI4HQ
>From thompson at mindspring.com Sat Apr 6 15:08:03 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ten Tec Orion and limited SO2R
Message-ID: <006901c1dda6$c2b165c0$476156d1@default>
Hans, K0HB mention of the ability of the orion to handle limited two radio
function can easily be accomplished now with Software defined radios SDR.
The Orion and the FT1000D allows limited SO2R and now the Orion allows a
second amp and antenna. Even back in the late 60's Hallicrafters SR2000 and
SR400 allowed two frequency operation at once so you could run on say 14155
and tune the band with the other VFO. Both allowed dual RX without switching
between the two VFO's. This can be done (less the dual duplex RX) with
most transceivers. My older FT980's allow me to work satellite on 21.230
and receive on 28.940.
SO2R is easy when you are Single band because there is usually no need for
another amp and antenna. Multi band SO2R is more complicated. Even the
logging software has to be set up properly to record the right rig and band.
On the writelog reflector a common complaint is that the wrong band or mode
was logged and how do you fix??
73 Dave K4JRB
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Sat Apr 6 19:08:38 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References:
<20020405122256.5465.c002-h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <013601c1ddd0$c00c1d40$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
> present system or any future system. But the machine can stop an
> individual from fraudulently taking advantage of some else's error. Is
> it worth it the inconvience?
A machine can also obscure a small but pertinent piece of information (e.g.
log entry is local time not UTC) that would allow a human to quickly
identify and verify a questionable qso in a collection of logs. While a
machine can present a barrier to fraud it can also present a barrier to
knowledge. Furthermore, erecting machine barriers of any kind can turn a
system design into an endless exercise of dealing with exceptions -- these
systems can collapse under their own complexity. Wisdom suggests that just
because it can be done by machine does not mean it should be done.
> Anyone got a different solution?
Accept the simple realization that an ARRL award or any other award for that
matter is simply that an award. We do not need to build a Fort Knox to
protect these awards. And yes cheaters will some times get certificates - so
what! Why not build a system that follows an age old amateur radio community
tradition of striving to enable the exchange of knowledge and not hinder it.
A twist. All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as well
as more check logs!
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From ve4xt at mb.sympatico.ca Sat Apr 6 20:25:23 2002
From: ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K7RI, KH6J, K7QQ, K7BV, K9NS, W1YK
Message-ID: <003401c1dddb$792308c0$0100a8c0@joe>
Hi, if you're one of these guys, I want to hear from you!
I'm writing the QST report for 2001 ARRL SS Phone, and I need to talk (type)
to you about your station and your effort.
Please e-mail me at ve4xt@mts.net or reply to this message.
Thanks!
Kelly
VE4XT
>From ve4xt at mb.sympatico.ca Sat Apr 6 21:17:32 2002
From: ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Did you miss just one sect. in SS Phone?
Message-ID: <00a901c1dde2$c1cefdc0$0100a8c0@joe>
Please tell me which one it was. Just doing a quick poll for a report on SS
in QST.
Thanks.
Kelly
ve4xt
>From k7qq at netzero.net Sun Apr 7 07:49:15 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <004701c1ddf7$f7be77c0$052bfa43@computer>
Quacks
The following by VE5XZ is an exlent idea for LOtw and would encourage more
contest activity I'm sure by the casual op's who are looking to get WAS ,
DXCC, and band states , countries. I hope others in the Contest community
will push this idea.
Rex K7QQ
> > Anyone got a different solution?
>
> Accept the simple realization that an ARRL award or any other award for
that
> matter is simply that an award. We do not need to build a Fort Knox to
> protect these awards. And yes cheaters will some times get certificates -
so
> what! Why not build a system that follows an age old amateur radio
community
> tradition of striving to enable the exchange of knowledge and not hinder
it.
>
> A twist. All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
> contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
> award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
> required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as
well
> as more check logs!
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> "A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Sun Apr 7 07:10:23 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <004701c1ddf7$f7be77c0$052bfa43@computer>
Message-ID: <003901c1ddf2$86e715c0$3d11be3f@bigguy>
Sure sounds like a no-brainer to me.
"Way back when" such contacts in ARRL DX Contest were creditable.
73, Hans, K0HB
> > A twist. All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
> > contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
> > award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
> > required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as
> >well as more check logs!
>From ve3pn at igs.net Sun Apr 7 08:05:25 2002
From: ve3pn@igs.net (PETER BARRON)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #87 - 9 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200204060555.g365t1Al022144@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000501c1de02$97c4c300$98f4a8c0@HOMEOFFICE>
I also read that with interest BUT does it allow true two radio mode i.e. Rx
on radio 2 whilst TX on radio1
Its does say (my underlining)
""Instant Two Radio Mode" allows ORION to instantly QSY between two
different bands. Two linear amplifiers, two sets of accessory devices via
dual band data outputs and two antennas can optionally be connected to ORION
to allow instantaneous QSY (useful for seeking out and working stations on
one band during a contest while CQing on a different band, for example)."
This IMPLIES that radio 1 can be CQing i.e. Transmitting on one band whilst
Rx on another BUT does not specifically say that one can
Peter
Ve3pn@igs.net
From: "K0HB" <k0hb@earthlink.net>
To: "MWA Reflector" <mn-wireless-assn@yahoogroups.com>,
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New Contesting Radio?
>From http://www.tentec.com/TT565.htm
"Instant Two Radio Mode" allows ORION to instantly QSY between two different
bands. Two linear amplifiers, two sets of accessory devices via dual band
data
outputs and two antennas can optionally be connected to ORION to allow
instantaneous QSY.
Unfortunately is still "looks like a TenTec"
73, de Hans, K0HB
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Sun Apr 7 08:11:27 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020407071051.00c60220@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
Sylvan,
The below used to be the case. I'm not sure when it
stopped, but it was a good deal for those taht don't
like to QSL. I have often thought that it would be a good
deal to bring it back.
As you say, with the software that is in place now, they
could just credit you and then notify you later...hi.
73, Tom K5IID
At 19:08 04/06/02 -0600, you wrote:
>A twist. All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
>contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
>award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
>required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as well
>as more check logs!
>From k7zo at cableone.net Sun Apr 7 11:04:32 2002
From: k7zo@cableone.net (K7ZO (Scott Tuthill))
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX M/S Rules Question
Message-ID: <004101c1de4d$e7e3d240$6401a8c0@3ComC>
To all: I have a question on the WPX M/S rules. I was at NK7U last weekend
and we were going to operate M/S but then realized that we either did not
understand the M/S rules and/or Writelog could not manage it. Overall the
M/S rules are very familiar as they match CQWW. The question is with respect
to serial numbers. The rules state: " One -- and only one -- other band may
be used during any 10-minute period if -- and only if -- the station worked
is a new multiplier. Use a separate serial numbers for the multiplier
station...."
Does this mean you would have, potentially, two separate serial number
sequences on a given band? For example, NK7U starts the contest and is
running on 10M. I find a new mult on 15M and work it giving it serial number
1. I then go on to find several other mults giving them serial number 2, 3,
4, and 5. Then later when 10M dies and NK7U moves to 15M and starts running
what serial number does he start with. Does he start with 1 since that would
be a separate serial number sequence for running. Or does he use 6 since
that would be the next serial number in the 15M band sequence?
We could not figure it out so we ended up running a 2 person M/M instead.
Then the flares pretty well wiped things out anyway....
Thanks for your help.
Scott/K7ZO
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Sun Apr 7 14:18:56 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL awards/contest logs
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHGEKMDEAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
Ve5ZX wrote:
>All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
>contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
>award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
?required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as well
>as more check logs! ... sylvan
And I think it's a GREAT idea. Suggest it to your ARRL director!
N2EA
>From w7why at harborside.com Sun Apr 7 21:11:06 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <s1h8xf5bc0ebapn.030420022037@designet-jsi>
Message-ID: <3CB099CA.B49A99EE@harborside.com>
Jim Idelson wrote:
> What do the DXCC Rules say?
>
> "2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV >apply,
> written proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication >(contacts) must be
> submitted directly to ARRL Headquarters for >all DXCC credits claimed . . .
Most of the cards I now get just have a label affixed to them.
Anyone can get (or make) a card and print a label. They are
rarely signed any more and they usually cone in an envelope so
they have no postmarks or stamps on them. I remember the last
time I got a bunch of samples from a QSL card printer they had
some pretty good DX cards in them. Just print out some labels
and stick them on a card and mail them in. How is that more
secure than an eQSL?
Tom W7WHY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sun Apr 7 18:25:55 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 SP DX Contest - Claimed scores 07Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020407171945.00aa55a0@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 SP DX Contest - Claimed scores 07Apr2002
Log Due: April 30, 2002
E-mail logs to: spdxc-logs@pzk.org.pl
Mail logs to:
Polski Zwiazek Krotkofalowcow
SPDX Contest Committee
P.O. Box 320
00-950 Warszawa
Poland
Find rules at: http://www.sp5zcc.waw.pl/spdxc/reg_g.html
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
3830 Archives - http://lists.contesting.com/_3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABCW
SN7N (SP7PS) HP 1013 0 192 24 361,728
N1RR HP 522 0 84 19 131,544
VE3QAA HP 500 0 81 121,500
VE1OP HP 363 0 63 15 68,607
W4SAA HP 297 0 68 60,588
AB2E LP 172 0 61 10 31,476
N6ZZ HP 165 0 53 26,235
VE9DX LP 27 0 15 1,215
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABMixed
RD4M (UA4LU) HP 403 552 77 19 220,605
K3WW HP 404 360 85 14 194,565
N2ED HP 433 329 80 14 178,080
N9RV HP 149 2 45 2 20,385
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABSSB
VE6POL @VE6JY HP 0 486 52 20 74,880
VE3BUC LP 0 70 210 3 6,090
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/10SSB
VA3KA HP 0 223 16 8 10,704
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/20CW
K2SX HP 88 0 16 4,224
K9NW LP 8 0 6 144
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/20SSB
M0GTO LP 0 30 11 2 990
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/80CW
LY2NXW LP 102 0 16 4,896
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/80Mixed
LY2FY HP 0 162 31 7 14,973 KTU RC
Band Breakdowns:
160 80 40 20 15 10
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABCW
SN7N (SP7
004/000/017 13/000/033 24/000/036 32/000/050 18/000/036 8/000/020
N1RR 006/000/003 33/000/016 58/000/016 131/000/016 165/000/017
129/000/016
VE3QAA 001/000/001 39/000/016 58/000/016 125/000/016 164/000/016
113/000/016
VE1OP 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
/000/000
W4SAA 000/000/000 7/000/006 59/000/016 71/000/014 80/000/016
80/000/016
AB2E 000/000/000 11/000/009 46/000/016 59/000/015 45/000/015
11/000/006
N6ZZ 000/000/000 /000/000 14/000/010 47/000/016 78/000/016
26/000/011
VE9DX 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 15/000/007
12/000/008
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABMixed
RD4M (UA4 031/000/013 98/000/016 169/000/016 335/000/016
332/000/016 /000/000
K3WW 005/000/005 42/003/016 64/000/016 102/112/016
117/165/016 74/080/016
N2ED 005/000/003 23/000/013 46/005/016 100/067/016
174/196/016 85/060/016
N9RV 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 34/000/014 83/020/016
32/000/015
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABSSB
VE6POL @V
000/000/000 /000/000 /016/011 /206/016 /241/016 /023/009
VE3BUC 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /002/006 /034/102
/034/102
>From k2kw at prodigy.net Mon Apr 8 22:16:55 2002
From: k2kw@prodigy.net (K2KW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Visalia Contest Dinner - Gett'n short!
Message-ID: <005401c1df7d$6337ec80$b11daace@main>
Visalia is just around the corner... Don't miss out on the best dinner at
Visalia!
The Northern California Contest Club Presents the 4th Annual International
DX Convention Contest Dinner on Friday, April 26, 2002.
EVENING EVENTS:
Dinner, guest speaker, lots of contesters & DXers & door prizes. We are
pleased to announce the evening presentation: Dr Beldar's Contest
Emporium - Products you might not see at HRO...
Doors and cash bar open at 7:00 p.m. Dinner is served at 8:00 p.m.
Full details are available on the International DX Convention web site:
http://www.qsl.net/visalia2002/events.html
Dinner Choices: Prime Rib of Beef -- $29.00 or Chicken Princess -- $23.00
Purchase tickets from:
Tom Taormina, K5RC
Productivity Resources
PO Box 1126
Virginia City NV 89440
775-847-7929
775-847-7930 (FAX)
K5RC@aol.com
73, Kenny K2KW & Steve, K6AW
Organizers, 4th Annual International DX Convention Contest Dinner
>From MPeiperl at london.edu Mon Apr 8 20:01:22 2002
From: MPeiperl@london.edu (Maury Peiperl)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
References: <200204081603.g38G37Al008268@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <3CB1DAF2.10704@london.edu>
Sylvan, that may be the single best idea I have ever heard in the DXCC /
Awards area. You are talking about confirmed contacts; that is, contacts
for which the League already has both logs and has compared them. Yes cards
are nice and there is nothing like the look and feel of a good, rare one,
but this doesn't do away with that; it merely supplements it with
incontrovertible
data provided by the amateurs themselves.
I for one would even be willing to pay (within reason) for such a service.
I could finally collect my 5BDXCC, which with two small kids and the other
pressures of mid-life, I might otherwise never manage to get all the cards
for.
73
Maury W3EF / G0UHK
Ve5ZX wrote:
All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
?required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as
well
as more check logs! ... sylvan
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Mon Apr 8 15:17:21 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL awards/contest logs
References: <200204081603.g38G38Al008271@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <021b01c1df2b$26fbaba0$03010a0a@office1>
I believe this is the direction they're headed in with the implementation of
the Cabrillo format, and ultimately with Logbook of the World (although
that's not all LotW is going to do).
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
----- Original Message -----
From: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Cc: <k1ki@arrl.org>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL awards/contest logs
Ve5ZX wrote:
>All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
>contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
>award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
?required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as
well
>as more check logs! ... sylvan
And I think it's a GREAT idea. Suggest it to your ARRL director!
N2EA
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Mon Apr 8 15:27:24 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204081603.g38G38Al008271@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <021c01c1df2b$27efcfa0$03010a0a@office1>
Most of the cards I've been getting lately have either been filled out by
hand, or the label has been either signed or stamped in some way to indicate
"verified by" the QSL manager(s) and their assistant(s).
While it is true that it's not that hard to make up a card, making up a full
color glossy card using the same photo(s) as many of the DXpeditions use
today, well, that's another story. And I really can't believe it would be
worth all the time, effort, and money to duplicate most of these cards, and
make them convincing enough to pass muster -- and why would you bother with
anything but the toughest ones anyway?
I think we can accept, though, that if someone is really determined enough,
they can fool the system -- and since people check the cards, mistakes
happen and invalid cards are sometimes accepted (and good ones not). Be so
as it may...
Look, the electronic QSL concept isn't neccesarily a bad one. eQSL.cc's
implementation of it has, sadly, left a lot to be desired -- they may have
been "first," but I sure wish they'd gotten it right instead.
But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their printed
eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real breakthrough.
And those of us who still feel the old fashioned "QSL card is the last
courtesy of a QSO" mantra can still exchange cards either via paper or
electronically as we so choose.
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Osborne <w7why@harborside.com>
Reply-To: w7why@harborside.com
Organization: Amateur Radio W7WHY
To: CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Jim Idelson wrote:
> What do the DXCC Rules say?
>
> "2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV >apply,
written proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication >(contacts) must be
submitted directly to ARRL Headquarters for >all DXCC credits claimed . . .
Most of the cards I now get just have a label affixed to them.
Anyone can get (or make) a card and print a label. They are
rarely signed any more and they usually cone in an envelope so
they have no postmarks or stamps on them. I remember the last
time I got a bunch of samples from a QSL card printer they had
some pretty good DX cards in them. Just print out some labels
and stick them on a card and mail them in. How is that more
secure than an eQSL?
Tom W7WHY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 8 21:44:15 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 SP DX Contest - Claimed scores 08/Apr/2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020408204255.00a16d00@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 SP DX Contest - Claimed scores 08/Apr/2002
Log Due: April 30, 2002
E-mail logs to: spdxc-logs@pzk.org.pl
Mail logs to:
Polski Zwiazek Krotkofalowcow
SPDX Contest Committee
P.O. Box 320
00-950 Warszawa
Poland
Find rules at: http://www.sp5zcc.waw.pl/spdxc/reg_g.html
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
3830 Archives - http://lists.contesting.com/_3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
M/S
SP8YMM HP 690 890 216 24 780,192
RT9W HP 1496 95 426,360 BASHKIRIAN DX CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABCW
SN7N (SP7PS) HP 1013 0 192 24 361,728
N1RR HP 522 0 84 19 131,544
VE3QAA HP 500 0 81 121,500
NY1S LP 367 0 65 13 71,175
VE1OP HP 363 0 63 15 68,607
W4SAA HP 297 0 68 60,588
F6IRF LP 268 0 63 50,652
AB2E LP 172 0 61 10 31,476
N6ZZ HP 165 0 53 26,235
N4GG HP 150 0 47 3 21,150
OM9ANL (F6FNL) LP 113 0 31 6 10,509
WN6K LP 50 0 17 2,550
VE9DX LP 27 0 15 1,215
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABMixed
SP2DWG LP 1003 165 330,165
UA9CDC HP 333 600 91 17 254,709
RD4M (UA4LU) HP 403 552 77 19 220,605
K3WW HP 404 360 85 14 194,565
N2ED HP 433 329 80 14 178,080
KM5G HP 244 73 57 54,207
N9RV HP 149 2 45 2 20,385
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABSSB
VE6POL @VE6JY HP 0 486 52 20 74,880
VE3BUC LP 0 70 210 3 6,090
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/10SSB
VA3KA HP 0 223 16 8 10,704
W5PR HP 0 185 16 8,880
VK2CZ HP 0 26 13 2 1,014
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/20CW
K2SX HP 88 0 16 4,224
K9NW LP 8 0 6 144
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/20SSB
M0GTO LP 0 30 11 2 990
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/80CW
LY2NXW LP 102 0 16 4,896
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/80Mixed
S53F LP 42 159 32 19,296
LY2FY HP 0 162 31 7 14,973 KTU RC
Band Breakdowns:
160 80 40 20 15
10
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
M/S
SP8YMM 037/000/011 84/000/025 264/000/040 447/000/000 502/000/000
246/000/000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABCW
SN7N (SP7
004/000/017 13/000/033 24/000/036 32/000/050 18/000/036 8/000/020
N1RR 006/000/003 33/000/016 58/000/016 131/000/016 165/000/017
129/000/016
VE3QAA 001/000/001 39/000/016 58/000/016 125/000/016 164/000/016
113/000/016
NY1S 000/000/000 4/000/004 33/000/014 109/000/015
135/000/016 86/000/016
VE1OP 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
/000/000
W4SAA 000/000/000 7/000/006 59/000/016 71/000/014 80/000/016
80/000/016
F6IRF 012/000/009 39/000/014 73/000/016
133/000/016 11/000/008 /000/000
AB2E 000/000/000 11/000/009 46/000/016 59/000/015 45/000/015
11/000/006
N6ZZ 000/000/000 /000/000 14/000/010 47/000/016 78/000/016
26/000/011
N4GG 000/000/000 1/000/001 31/000/015 54/000/015 64/000/016
/000/000
OM9ANL (F
000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
WN6K 000/000/000 /000/000 1/000/001 49/000/016 /000/000
/000/000
VE9DX 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 15/000/007
12/000/008
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABMixed
UA9CDC 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
/000/000
RD4M (UA4 031/000/013 98/000/016 169/000/016 335/000/016
332/000/016 /000/000
K3WW 005/000/005 42/003/016 64/000/016 102/112/016
117/165/016 74/080/016
N2ED 005/000/003 23/000/013 46/005/016 100/067/016
174/196/016 85/060/016
KM5G 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
/000/000
N9RV 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 34/000/014 83/020/016
32/000/015
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABSSB
VE6POL @V
000/000/000 /000/000 /016/011 /206/016 /241/016 /023/009
VE3BUC 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /002/006 /034/102
/034/102
Teams:
SP8YMM SP8GQU, SP8GWI, SP8LBK
RT9W RU9WX RX9WR RW9WW RV9WA UA9WFM & RA9WR
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 8 21:31:48 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 08Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204090331.g393Vmq11703@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 08Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCC
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCC
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
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Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SOSB20 LP
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 8 21:28:53 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 08Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204090328.g393SrL11691@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 08Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(NI2W+VE3XAP 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
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USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From ve3pn at igs.net Tue Apr 9 05:15:21 2002
From: ve3pn@igs.net (PETER BARRON)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ten Tec Orion and limited SO2R
Message-ID: <000c01c1df7d$2acc6970$98f4a8c0@HOMEOFFICE>
Follow up on this topic from Ten Tec is
"Not if it is full duplex. While transmitting, the opposite receiver will
mute.
You can instantaneously transmit on the 'sub' frequency and the other
receiver will mute. You can control all of this via the computer
interface, and use two sets of band data and two linear amps (and
separate antennas) if desired."
Seems like the only advantage is the Two separate band outputs from
the Orion.
Peter
Ve3pn@igs.net
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ten Tec Orion and limited SO2R
Hans, K0HB mention of the ability of the orion to handle limited two radio
function can easily be accomplished now with Software defined radios SDR.
The Orion and the FT1000D allows limited SO2R and now the Orion allows a
second amp and antenna. Even back in the late 60's Hallicrafters SR2000 and
SR400 allowed two frequency operation at once so you could run on say 14155
and tune the band with the other VFO. Both allowed dual RX without switching
between the two VFO's. This can be done (less the dual duplex RX) with
most transceivers. My older FT980's allow me to work satellite on 21.230
and receive on 28.940.
SO2R is easy when you are Single band because there is usually no need for
another amp and antenna. Multi band SO2R is more complicated. Even the
logging software has to be set up properly to record the right rig and band.
On the writelog reflector a common complaint is that the wrong band or mode
was logged and how do you fix??
73 Dave K4JRB
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Tue Apr 9 10:02:21 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] (no subject)
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHCEMHDEAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
-0- snip
what's really important isn't the eQSL
"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real breakthrough.
73, ron wn3vaw
-0- snip
Yes. THAT is the central point.
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Tue Apr 9 09:29:59 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <021c01c1df2b$27efcfa0$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204090805350.962-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
>
> I think we can accept, though, that if someone is really determined enough,
> they can fool the system -- and since people check the cards, mistakes
> happen and invalid cards are sometimes accepted (and good ones not). Be so
> as it may...
>
This always brings up a question with me. Why would someone want to fake
a QSL or a QSO on one for DXCC credit? I am an honest man and I don't
even have the slightest desire to do this. Maybe that is why I have a
hard time understanding those who would. Who are you really cheating if
you present a false card? Only yourself.
There could be a few who are just trying it to see if they can get away
with it - to "fool the system", as you said. I would guess that they care
so little about the DXCC program that they just want to see how far they
can stretch it.
I just received a QSL from a DXpedition which had QSO's on many bands
on it. I did notice that the person who filled it out by hand noted the
frequencies worked as "3.5" ... "7" ... "14" ... "18." ... "24" ... "28"
Notice the period after the "18" that wasn't on the other frequencies?
It's apparently there so no one can change it to "1.8" on the card.
> Look, the electronic QSL concept isn't neccesarily a bad one. eQSL.cc's
> implementation of it has, sadly, left a lot to be desired -- they may have
> been "first," but I sure wish they'd gotten it right instead.
>
> But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their printed
> eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
> "card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
> securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
> awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
> check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real breakthrough.
> And those of us who still feel the old fashioned "QSL card is the last
> courtesy of a QSO" mantra can still exchange cards either via paper or
> electronically as we so choose.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
I don't have anything against eQSL's. I still like the paper ones, though.
It's more fun to show them to non-hams once in a while. I've even gotten
a few people interested in ham radio by showing them DX cards.
One question about the LoTW project is what about the rare DX station who
doesn't have a computer and keeps paper logs? Is someone going to get his
logs and put them in digital format and send them to ARRL?
Just food for thought, in case there are any hungry minds this morning.
:-)
73, Zack W9SZ
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Tue Apr 9 14:42:08 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020409124208.013c6500@pop.vnet.net>
WN3VAW wrote:
>But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their printed
>eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
>"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
>securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
>awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
>check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real breakthrough.
I just uploaded ~37K of contest QSO's to eQSL for the past few
years and see no major security problems with the way eQSL is implemented.
In fact, it is actually more strict than I would be if I were answering
QSL's directly where I would recognize problems like "wrong band", "wrong
time" due to local time, "wrong date" for the contest, etc. eQSL does
make it difficult to diagnose these problems but you can always reject
the card and ask the sender to check his data again.
I totally agree with Ron's statement above. I am personally aware
of numerous attempts to submit false confirmations for 160 QSO's over the
years and the ultimate test of these is not the quality of the printing,
etc, but the QSO data which is in the log. If a QSO is in question, ARRL
has on several occasions contacted the QSL manager to request actual log
data to verify questionable QSL's. Making complete log data available will
make it VERY easy to catch erroneous confirmations and should improve the
integrity of the system currently used at ARRL. In fact, I suspect the
current system is not nearly as "clean" for most DXCC QSL's as it is for
160 confirmations which are checked at ARRL HQ with someone looking at
a greyline map to weed out obvious problem QSO's. eQSL and LotW should
make the system even better!
I feel eQSL and LotW are major steps in the right direction for
all of us. They will improve the integrity of awards and will especially
make life easier for those of us making many contest QSO's who may not
enjoy the QSL burden that comes with them.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From N5RP at pdq.net Tue Apr 9 10:16:50 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Internet packet feeds to other software
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020409091119.00b80c30@pop.pdq.net>
I could not find a consolidated source of information that outlined how to
get packet spots off of the Internet and have those spots fed into my NA
contest software, as well as feed any other software that might desire to
see a TNC as it's packet data collector. I use the following setup to grab
packet data for my DX4Windows software and for all DOS based contest software.
1)
I connect to the Internet for my packet spots using a program called
DX-Telnet, written by Fabrizio Sartini,
see: http://www.qsl.net/wd4ngb/telnet.htm
DX-Telnet has means for maintaining connection, re-connecting after
connections fail, and other niceties all built into the program.
I have used two methods for sending packet data to my main radio station
computer.
One method uses inter-computer communication within my home network.
The other (and better) method uses a spare computer (surplus laptop) to go
grab Internet packet data and then feed that data to an available COM port
on my main ham radio computer where I run contest software and my normal
day to day logging software.
I grab all of my packet spots using a high speed DSL connection via this
surplus laptop computer. That computer has to have the DX Telnet program on
it and two other necessary programs (UDPSEND & DXT4WIN), both of which are
included and sourced from Fabrizio.
Basically, the three programs that are needed to get Internet sourced
packet spot feeds from the laptop to my main station computer running NA or
DX 4 Windows are:
DX-Telnet - Gets the data from the Internet
DXT4WIN - Allows the main station computer to talk back to and into the
laptop machine that is acting as the pseudo TNC
UDPSEND - Allows the DX-Telnet collected data from my laptop to be fed
into my primary station computer COM port
On the packet connected computer (my laptop) I invoke UDPSEND, DXT4WIN, and
have these programs perform the rudiments of sending the DX-Telnet
collected data to a COM port on the laptop.
That laptop COM port is, in turn, connected by cable to a COM port on the
main station computer running the NA contest software or logging software.
Now then, you just configure the NA software or logging software as though
it were connected to a TNC, and the spots from the laptop are sent to the
main station computer COM port just like a normal TNC process.
After doing this setup of making an Internet grab computer feed into your
main radio station or contest computer, NA and my DX 4 Windows logging
software act as though they both have a TNC connected into the system, and
the packet spots are fed flawlessly.
This setup can feed packet spots to your computer for any program that
would normally use a TNC as its packet cluster data source.
2)
In addition to doing what I just outlined as what we might call part 1 of
the concept,
I will now lay out what we might refer to as part 2 of the concept.
That is the part where we customize the various programs to do what we
desire to accomplish.
As in the following:
UDPSEND -
In the setup for the UDPSEND program, you will have to "check" a box to
invoke the "CT Net Protocol" transmissions.
That tells the UDP program output transmissions to emulate a standard that
current DOS based contest softwares use.
DXT4WIN -
DXT4WIN does not require any boxes to be ticked, or any parameters to be set.
DX-Telnet -
aa)
DX-Telnet will require you to invoke the auxiliary COM port setup, and set
the parameters to the values that NA would normally expect to see from a
TNC such as proper COM port # and rate values of 9600,N,8,1.
For my situation, I use COM port #1 and 9600,N,8,1 parameters.
That simply tells DX-Telnet to send the info to a specified COM port on the
Internet collecting computer, and then forward that info out at parameter
value(s) that your main station computer software can read.
bb)
DX-Telnet will require you to invoke the "LINKS" parameters,
and set these values, as follows:
EXE Name = UDPSEND
Link Topic = UDP
Link Item = textin
That should do it for you.
Now then, you can use DX-Telnet with all of its filters, lights, Italian
accented announcements, dings and dongs features to go out, grab, keep
grabbing, etc. desired packet data from the variously available web sites
for same, and feed that info/data into any program that might desire to see
a TNC for its procurement process.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Tue Apr 9 16:06:39 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <200204091240.g39Ce6Al025891@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020409145049.00d23b00@pop.pacific.net.hk>
W7WHY asked how a traditional QSL with merely a computer generated label
could be more secure than an eQSL.
The DXCC Desk will check up on a card they suspect & will go to great lengths
to verify it. Perhaps an eQSL may appear to be no different than a
traditional one
to the layman, but after who knows how many cards have been processed by the
DXCC program, over the years it wouldn't surprise me they know what to look
for.
And from my experience, they certainly know a dodgy card when they see one.
73, BW2/VR2BrettGraham
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Tue Apr 9 16:20:21 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
In-Reply-To: <200204091240.g39Ce6Al025891@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020409144806.00d2eef0@pop.pacific.net.hk>
I may be QCWA material, though am still on the wrong side of 40 to have a
senior moment (or so I would like to think), but didn't ARRL used to give DXCC
credit in the past for those who worked a DX station that turned in a log
in the
ARRL DX test?
73, BW2/VR2BrettGraham
>From BobK8IA at aol.com Tue Apr 9 13:14:47 2002
From: BobK8IA@aol.com (BobK8IA@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
Message-ID: <89.163d19dc.29e46d77@aol.com>
>Ve5ZX wrote:
?
? ? All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
award for which it is considered to be a valid contact.
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----------------------------------------
This used to exist back in the 60s-70s when Bob White was running the DXCC
show.No software then, of course, but if ARRL had contest logs from both
parties you could get country credit.
Anyone know why/how they got away from that policy? I wouldnt think it would
be difficult to "re-implement", especially with Cabrillo logging!
73, Bob K8IA
Michigan USA
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>From k1ir at designet.com Tue Apr 9 14:23:24 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] (no subject)
Message-ID: <r0okp1xrmrzoj0m.090420021323@designet-jsi>
Fellow Contesters!
I am pleased to announce that the reins of YCCC leadership for 2002-2003 have
been transferred to a bold and brilliant new team:
Chris Terkla, N1XS - President
Art Holmes, W1RZF - Vice President
Don Toman, K2KQ - Activities Manager
Ed Parish, K1EP - Treasurer
Dennis Egan, NB1B - Secretary
We in New England [New York and a little bit of New Jersey, too] look forward
to another great year of exciting contest activity!
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From ei4hq at qsl.net Tue Apr 9 20:35:24 2002
From: ei4hq@qsl.net (Cormac, EI4HQ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204081603.g38G38Al008271@contesting.com>
<021c01c1df2b$27efcfa0$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <003701c1dff5$52e4ea40$0200a8c0@CormacGebruers>
Firstly thanks to all for answering the questions I posted in relation to
this thread on Saturday.
I emailed eQSL.cc and requested information on the "new" InBox situation.
Specifically I asked them about the strictness of the time match. The answer
I consider to be perfectly reasonable is that an acceptale match is one
where the times are within +/- 1 hour of each other. Sure if you're time
zones are screwed up then you might have a problem but otherwise I can't see
how that aspect of things would be a cause of upset for anyone. Everyone
does keep their logs (those that are required to...) in UTC... don't they?
A few general comments;
I'd consider how ARRL treats DXCC to be entirely up to them as its their
award. Hence the introduction, arrangements & management of LotW and their
acceptance/rejection or otherwise of eQSL.cc entirely up to them. If you
don't like what they're doing then don't apply for the award - otherwise
accept the rules as they make them...
I'm quite frankly amazed that US stations are not legally required to keep
logs anymore - no doubt it was debated high up and low down at the time but
seems nuts to me. How do I know that any US station I QSL has any idea I've
worked them - sounds like I could (feasibly) attempt random qsling and
probably get enough cards to claim WAS... almost worth trying as an
experiment :o) Also it must make enforcement & policing more difficult -
perhaps this is a good thing in the eyes of a certain portion of the ham
population ;o)
Those who QSL out of courtesy - there are many who appreciate your efforts
and I can see how the changes could cause inconvenience. However I suspect
anyone really serious about QSLs is still primarily in paper mode and will
be for sometime. eQSL is, at the end of the day, an "early implementer". No
doubt a consensus will be reached eventually. The amateur radio community is
no different to the world IT community - open standards etc. are a LONG time
coming and we're not there yet...
Cormac, EI4HQ
via buro, direct, eQSL.cc and any other way someone wants a QSL...
>From kr1g at hotmail.com Tue Apr 9 21:32:35 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
Message-ID: <F129N8zDo2QltZ4jN5u0000a31c@hotmail.com>
I think it is reasonable to expect LoTW to do this, although obviously not
in its first implementation.
There are all kinds of neat things eQSLing will make possible that we can
never think of.
Who thought the Internet would ever revolutionize shopping :)
73
Ted, KR1G
PS: BTW, once LoTW is up and running, I'm going for 5B+WAS - no way I have
the time to send out so many paper cards, even though I do love them.
>From: Maury Peiperl <MPeiperl@london.edu>
>To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
>
>
>
>
>
>Sylvan, that may be the single best idea I have ever heard in the DXCC /
>Awards area. You are talking about confirmed contacts; that is, contacts
>for which the League already has both logs and has compared them. Yes
>cards
>are nice and there is nothing like the look and feel of a good, rare one,
>but this doesn't do away with that; it merely supplements it with
>incontrovertible
>data provided by the amateurs themselves.
>
>
>
>I for one would even be willing to pay (within reason) for such a service.
> I could finally collect my 5BDXCC, which with two small kids and the
>other
>pressures of mid-life, I might otherwise never manage to get all the cards
>for.
>
>
>
>73
>
>Maury W3EF / G0UHK
>
>
>
>Ve5ZX wrote:
>
>
>
>
> All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
>contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
>award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
>
>
>
> ?required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests
>as well
>
>
>
> as more check logs! ... sylvan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>From TOMK5RC at aol.com Tue Apr 9 20:30:32 2002
From: TOMK5RC@aol.com (TOMK5RC@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Where are they Now?
Message-ID: <157.c070681.29e4d398@aol.com>
I am working on a presentation for the Visalia DX Convention called "Where
are they Now" featuring old and new photos of famous contesters and DXers. I
received a lot of input from this group the first time I posted a plea so I
am asking again. If you have any photos of contesters and DXers "then and
now" I would appreciate having email copies (jpeg preferred). I can scan in
regular photos, but have no facilities for converting 35 mm slides. If you
have any other interesting photos of contesters and DXers, please send those
also or direct me to web sites that contain photos. Please explain who is in
the photos!
I will make this presentation available for others to use after Visalia. It
will be in MS PowerPoint. My deadline is 4/20.
Thanks!
Tom, K5RC
Virginia City NV
>From k4bai at worldnet.att.net Tue Apr 9 23:21:02 2002
From: k4bai@worldnet.att.net (John T. Laney, III)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SWL Reports from DE0RAY on QSOs with K3WWP
Message-ID: <3CB3A18E.95C3AFF2@worldnet.att.net>
Hello all:
After receiving a large number of requests for SWL confirmations for
alleged QSOs between myself or others that I handle cards for, all QSOs
being with K3WWP, I have confirmed with John, K3WWP, that his logs are
available on his website. He had already suspected the possibility from
other reports, but it is clear now to me that DE0RAY is sending reports
of QSOs in contests made by K3WWP and available on his website. There
is no way that DE0RAY is able to follow K3WWP to three bands in one
contest for QSOs at widely spaced times with W4AN when John is running 5
watts with indoor antennas and is doing almost exclusively S&P. I
suggest that any such SWL cards be returned as unconfirmed due to the
availability of the logs on the internet.
73,
John, K4BAI/8P9HT/8P9Z.
>From W4EF at dellroy.com Tue Apr 9 21:11:36 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Mike)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <1.5.4.32.20020409124208.013c6500@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <09c201c1e03d$6d2717f0$6501a8c0@1800XP>
Wow, I am really having a hard time fathoming the pathology
of someone who would fake a QSL confirmation for 160 and
then submit it for award credit. Thats seriously twisted, but I
guess it shouldn't surprise me given what I hear going on in
pileups these days.
BTW, on a related note, would it be considered unethical
to alter a QSL to correct a mistake made by the QSL manager?
Case in point is a card I received which showed "18 MHz" in
the frequency block. The card I sent to the manager with the
"PSE QSL" request was for a 160 meter contact. My card
showed "1.8 MHz" in the frequency block. The QSL manager
presumeably verified that I was in the log since he sent me
a return QSL. I know I didn't work the station on 18 MHz
because I distinctly remember working the station on 160
meters at that time, and my log shows a match with everything
on his card except the frequency. My guess is that the manager
wasn't watching and put the "dot" on top of part of the "1" or
part of the "8". Is it ethical for me alter the card and add the dot
in, or should I spend an extra 2 bucks and request another card
to stay on the moral high ground? Would altering the card (to
correct it) inch me closer to the "twisted pathology" of the guy
who knowingly fabricates a confirmation for a QSO that he
knows didn't take place?
Sorry that this is a little of topic for CQ-Contest, but I couldn't
resist.
73 de Mike, W4EF................
---- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tippett" <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> WN3VAW wrote:
>
> >But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their
printed
> >eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
> >"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
> >securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
> >awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
> >check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real
breakthrough.
>
> I just uploaded ~37K of contest QSO's to eQSL for the past few
> years and see no major security problems with the way eQSL is implemented.
> In fact, it is actually more strict than I would be if I were answering
> QSL's directly where I would recognize problems like "wrong band", "wrong
> time" due to local time, "wrong date" for the contest, etc. eQSL does
> make it difficult to diagnose these problems but you can always reject
> the card and ask the sender to check his data again.
>
> I totally agree with Ron's statement above. I am personally aware
> of numerous attempts to submit false confirmations for 160 QSO's over the
> years and the ultimate test of these is not the quality of the printing,
> etc, but the QSO data which is in the log. If a QSO is in question, ARRL
> has on several occasions contacted the QSL manager to request actual log
> data to verify questionable QSL's. Making complete log data available
will
> make it VERY easy to catch erroneous confirmations and should improve the
> integrity of the system currently used at ARRL. In fact, I suspect the
> current system is not nearly as "clean" for most DXCC QSL's as it is for
> 160 confirmations which are checked at ARRL HQ with someone looking at
> a greyline map to weed out obvious problem QSO's. eQSL and LotW should
> make the system even better!
>
> I feel eQSL and LotW are major steps in the right direction for
> all of us. They will improve the integrity of awards and will especially
> make life easier for those of us making many contest QSO's who may not
> enjoy the QSL burden that comes with them.
>
> 73, Bill W4ZV
>
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Tue Apr 9 23:59:37 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] eQSL QSO Times
Message-ID: <000201c1e046$c4487520$d22bfa43@computer>
Quack
I had one eQsl rejection come thru that the only problem with the data for a
SS QSO was the time was off by 1 (ONE) minute. Now this is getting to the
redicilous, I don't need the confirmation but this one Q the guy sent me
log data and I replied.
Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cormac, EI4HQ" <ei4hq@qsl.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 19:35
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> Firstly thanks to all for answering the questions I posted in relation to
> this thread on Saturday.
>
> I emailed eQSL.cc and requested information on the "new" InBox situation.
> Specifically I asked them about the strictness of the time match. The
answer
> I consider to be perfectly reasonable is that an acceptale match is one
> where the times are within +/- 1 hour of each other. Sure if you're time
> zones are screwed up then you might have a problem but otherwise I can't
see
> how that aspect of things would be a cause of upset for anyone. Everyone
> does keep their logs (those that are required to...) in UTC... don't they?
>
> A few general comments;
>
> I'd consider how ARRL treats DXCC to be entirely up to them as its their
> award. Hence the introduction, arrangements & management of LotW and their
> acceptance/rejection or otherwise of eQSL.cc entirely up to them. If you
> don't like what they're doing then don't apply for the award - otherwise
> accept the rules as they make them...
>
> I'm quite frankly amazed that US stations are not legally required to keep
> logs anymore - no doubt it was debated high up and low down at the time
but
> seems nuts to me. How do I know that any US station I QSL has any idea
I've
> worked them - sounds like I could (feasibly) attempt random qsling and
> probably get enough cards to claim WAS... almost worth trying as an
> experiment :o) Also it must make enforcement & policing more difficult -
> perhaps this is a good thing in the eyes of a certain portion of the ham
> population ;o)
>
> Those who QSL out of courtesy - there are many who appreciate your efforts
> and I can see how the changes could cause inconvenience. However I suspect
> anyone really serious about QSLs is still primarily in paper mode and will
> be for sometime. eQSL is, at the end of the day, an "early implementer".
No
> doubt a consensus will be reached eventually. The amateur radio community
is
> no different to the world IT community - open standards etc. are a LONG
time
> coming and we're not there yet...
>
> Cormac, EI4HQ
> via buro, direct, eQSL.cc and any other way someone wants a QSL...
>
>
>
>
>
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>From w9sz at prairienet.org Wed Apr 10 09:31:26 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] eQSL QSO Times
In-Reply-To: <000201c1e046$c4487520$d22bfa43@computer>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204100824390.5885-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Rex Maner wrote:
> Quack
> I had one eQsl rejection come thru that the only problem with the data for a
> SS QSO was the time was off by 1 (ONE) minute. Now this is getting to the
> redicilous, I don't need the confirmation but this one Q the guy sent me
> log data and I replied.
> Rex
That's just stupid. It will probably contribute greatly to the downfall
of eQSL.
I'm sure that we, as contesters, don't always have our clocks synchronized
to the same exact second. And every DXpedition I've received QSL's from
sent me a card, even if the times were quite a bit off. Probably, if
you're sitting on an Antarctic rock, freezing your tuchis, you don't
particularly care how exact your clock is.
QST had a note (I think in the "How's DX?" column) a while back about the
"Martti Laine rule". If the callsign logged by the DX station was off by
one character (for instance, if I got logged as W0SZ or W9SG) and the
station logged did not submit a card in a reasonable time or did not
contest the QSO, I would get the card.
I wonder how that will fit in with eQSL and LoTW?
73, Zack W9SZ
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Wed Apr 10 14:52:21 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <09c201c1e03d$6d2717f0$6501a8c0@1800XP>
References: <1.5.4.32.20020409124208.013c6500@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020410134702.00c66700@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
Mike,
If you are going to use the card in question for DXCC,
or probably any other award purpose, then just realize
that if the ARRL catches it, not only will the card be
returned, you could be banned from DXCC altogether.
I sent a card for Don Search to look at and say yea
or nay one time because it was a station operating
portable from another country and it had been written in pencil.
He said it was ok so I sent it in with my next update.
Just be careful.
73, Tom K5II
At 20:11 04/09/02 -0700, Mike wrote:
>Wow, I am really having a hard time fathoming the pathology
>of someone who would fake a QSL confirmation for 160 and
>then submit it for award credit. Thats seriously twisted, but I
>guess it shouldn't surprise me given what I hear going on in
>pileups these days.
>
>BTW, on a related note, would it be considered unethical
>to alter a QSL to correct a mistake made by the QSL manager?
>Case in point is a card I received which showed "18 MHz" in
>the frequency block. The card I sent to the manager with the
>"PSE QSL" request was for a 160 meter contact. My card
>showed "1.8 MHz" in the frequency block. The QSL manager
>presumeably verified that I was in the log since he sent me
>a return QSL. I know I didn't work the station on 18 MHz
>because I distinctly remember working the station on 160
>meters at that time, and my log shows a match with everything
>on his card except the frequency. My guess is that the manager
>wasn't watching and put the "dot" on top of part of the "1" or
>part of the "8". Is it ethical for me alter the card and add the dot
>in, or should I spend an extra 2 bucks and request another card
>to stay on the moral high ground? Would altering the card (to
>correct it) inch me closer to the "twisted pathology" of the guy
>who knowingly fabricates a confirmation for a QSO that he
>knows didn't take place?
>
>Sorry that this is a little of topic for CQ-Contest, but I couldn't
>resist.
>
>73 de Mike, W4EF................
>
>---- Original Message -----
>From: "Bill Tippett" <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
>To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:42 AM
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> > WN3VAW wrote:
> >
> > >But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their
>printed
> > >eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
> > >"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
> > >securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
> > >awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
> > >check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real
>breakthrough.
> >
> > I just uploaded ~37K of contest QSO's to eQSL for the past few
> > years and see no major security problems with the way eQSL is implemented.
> > In fact, it is actually more strict than I would be if I were answering
> > QSL's directly where I would recognize problems like "wrong band", "wrong
> > time" due to local time, "wrong date" for the contest, etc. eQSL does
> > make it difficult to diagnose these problems but you can always reject
> > the card and ask the sender to check his data again.
> >
> > I totally agree with Ron's statement above. I am personally aware
> > of numerous attempts to submit false confirmations for 160 QSO's over the
> > years and the ultimate test of these is not the quality of the printing,
> > etc, but the QSO data which is in the log. If a QSO is in question, ARRL
> > has on several occasions contacted the QSL manager to request actual log
> > data to verify questionable QSL's. Making complete log data available
>will
> > make it VERY easy to catch erroneous confirmations and should improve the
> > integrity of the system currently used at ARRL. In fact, I suspect the
> > current system is not nearly as "clean" for most DXCC QSL's as it is for
> > 160 confirmations which are checked at ARRL HQ with someone looking at
> > a greyline map to weed out obvious problem QSO's. eQSL and LotW should
> > make the system even better!
> >
> > I feel eQSL and LotW are major steps in the right direction for
> > all of us. They will improve the integrity of awards and will especially
> > make life easier for those of us making many contest QSO's who may not
> > enjoy the QSL burden that comes with them.
> >
> > 73, Bill W4ZV
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 09:07:21 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Oklahoma QSO Party - Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101507.g3AF7LP13048@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Oklahoma QSO Party - Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 30, 2002
E-mail logs to: w5atv@cox.net
Mail logs to:
OKDX Assn
c/o David Ratliff, W5ATV
3215 W. 40th
Tulsa, OK 74107
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
One of the new benefits of the Web based scoring pages.
Easy generation of reports for smaller test.
Support for the smaller tests. Thanks go to Bruce, WA7BNM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsDig Qs hr Score Club
SOAB HP
K5YAA 217 609 0 20 92,365 OKDX
K4BAI 17 31 0 3,164 SECC
LY3BA 7 10 0 328 Kaunas University
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 09:11:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Virginia QSO Party - Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101511.g3AFBQF13059@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Virginia QSO Party - Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 15, 2002
E-mail logs to: ks4ii@arrl.net
Mail logs to:
VA QSO Party
Call Box 59
Sterling, VA 20167
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
I know this summary is overkill and I won't send out such in
the future. Just testing the process.
Thanks for your patience.
dink
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Call CW Qs Ph Qs hr Score Club
M/M HP
K4JA(W3BP) 312 1370 23 406,477
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Single Op HP
K4OAQ 300 0 11 72,428
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 09:51:09 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 SP DX Contest - All Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101551.g3AFp9H13092@localhost.localdomain>
2002 SP DX Contest - All Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 30, 2002
E-mail logs to: spdxc-logs@pzk.org.pl
Mail logs to:
Polski Zwiazek Krotkofalowcow
SPDX Contest Committee
PO Box 320
00-950 Warszawa
Poland
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
(Summary results are based on data reported via 3830 Submission Web Page)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph Qs Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
SP8YMM 690 890 216 24 780,192
RT9W 590 906 95 426,360 Bashkirian DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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All SOABCW HP
SN7N(SP7PS) 1013 0 192 24 361,728
N1RR 522 0 84 19 131,544 YCCC
VE3QAA 500 0 81 18 121,500 CAPITAL REGION DX CL
VE1OP 363 0 63 15 68,607
W4SAA 297 0 68 60,588 FCG
N6ZZ 165 0 53 26,235
N4GG 150 0 47 3 21,150 PVRC
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All SOABCW LP
NY1S 367 0 65 13 71,175
F6IRF 268 0 63 17 50,652 Yota Sawe DX group
AB2E 172 0 61 10 31,476 FRC
UA9FM 134 0 51 6 20,502
OM9ANL(F6FNL) 113 0 31 6 10,509
WN6K 50 0 17 2 2,550 SCCC
VE9DX 27 0 15 1,215
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All SOABMixed HP
UA9CDC 333 600 91 17 254,709 Ural Contest Group
RD4M(UA4LU) 403 552 77 19 220,605
K3WW 404 360 85 14 194,565 FRC
N2ED 433 329 80 14 178,080 FRC
G0DVJ/P 122 380 54 13 81,000
KM5G 244 73 57 54,207
N9RV 149 2 45 2 20,385 SMC
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All SOABMixed LP
SP2DWG 554 449 165 330,165
YL2PN 66 16 24 4 5,904 Latvian CC
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All SOABSSB HP
VE6POL(@VE6JY) 0 486 52 20 74,880
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VE3BUC 0 70 210 3 6,090
VE7AVV 0 78 22 11 5,148
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All SOSB/10SSB HP
VA3KA 0 223 16 8 10,704 Capital Region DX
W5PR 0 185 16 8,880 TDXS
VK2CZ 0 26 13 2 1,014
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All SOSB/20CW HP
K2SX 88 0 16 4,224 YCCC
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All SOSB/20CW LP
K9NW 8 0 6 1 144 MRRC
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All SOSB/20SSB LP
9A7P(9A6XX) 0 70 11 1 2,310
M0GTO 0 30 11 2 990
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All SOSB/80CW LP
LY2NXW 102 0 16 4,896
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All SOSB/80Mixed HP
LY2FY 52 110 31 7 14,973 KTU RC
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All SOSB/80Mixed LP
S53F 42 159 32 19,296
Operators:
RT9W RA9WR,RU9WX,RV9WA,RW9WW,RX9WR,UA9WFM
SP8YMM SP8GQU,SP8GWI,SP8LBK
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 10:14:02 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101614.g3AGE2213117@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCC
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCC
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
L5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 10:16:25 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101616.g3AGGPO13126@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From gm3woj at talk21.com Wed Apr 10 21:58:13 2002
From: gm3woj@talk21.com (Chris Tran GM3WOJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Internet packet feeds to other software
Message-ID: <003701c1e0ca$22ef2c80$668efea9@chris.tranbtinternet.com>
Hi Bob et al
I've been experimenting connecting NA to a DXCluster node
using Telnet - K1TTT's WinTelnetX 4.11
The configuration below works successfully for NA 10.54, so
I guess should be OK for NA 10.55, which I have not had time
to try yet. I'm using 2 PCs networked with NA, and a third PC
running WinTelnetX under W98. For simplicity the set-up
below uses COM1 on the Windows PC, and COM1 on one of the
networked NA PCs. The DXCluster node I use (GB7BIG) is
running AR-Cluster software.
---------------------------------------
Connect together the COM ports on the 2 PCs (1 x NA PC
and 1 x WinTelnetX PC) using a serial cable where pin2 at one end
connects to pin3 at the other end and vice versa.
-------------------------------------------
NA 10.54
Under 'Config', select f4 Serial Port Setup :
port adr baud device IRQ
COM1 3F8 9600 TNC 4
Select f5 Equipment Configuration :
TNC Type : LOCAL
----------------------------------------------
WinTelnetx 4.11
COM
Select - Add new ComPort :
Port COM1
Baud 9600
Bits 8
Parity None
Stop bits 1
Flow RTSCTS
Name COM
Is TNC False
Buffer 32000
Keep alive time 0
Port Data Type CT User
Dupes 0
CR/LF 1
TEL
Select - Add new Network - Connect :
Host name or IP marnet.dns2go.com
Port number 23
Name TEL
Is TNC False
Buffer 32000
Keep alive time 0
Port Data Type Cluster User
Mycall INET
Antiloop Px <
Dupes 0
CR/LF 2
Prompt call: Response GM3WOJ
Add - Routes COM <-> TEL 2-way
--------------------------------------------
Hope this helps anyone who's trying to do the
same thing - the advantage of this over DXTelnet
is that only 2 pieces of software are running.
73
Chris GM3WOJ
>From ei4hq at qsl.net Wed Apr 10 23:28:54 2002
From: ei4hq@qsl.net (Cormac, EI4HQ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] eQSL QSO Times
References: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204100824390.5885-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <001601c1e0d6$b876c860$0200a8c0@CormacGebruers>
I've received several [off-line] responses to my email about eQSL time
matching for QSO's - some quite entertaining and all in the right spirit I
hasten to add!
A number of them highlighted problems with the time matching - it certainly
doesn't appear that eQSL is giving the +/1 hr leeway that they suggests it
should be in several situations - whether its a glitch or something else is
afoot I don't yet know.
I'm going to mention this to them tonight in a follow up email (no specifics
just a general observation that people are having problems with it) and see
how they respond.
EI4HQ
>From ik2bcp at hamlan.org Wed Apr 10 23:41:09 2002
From: ik2bcp@hamlan.org (Guido Tedeschi, ik2bcp)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] An optocoupled isolator for Yaesu CAT
References: <000201c1e046$c4487520$d22bfa43@computer>
Message-ID: <00c301c1e0d0$2038fe70$20a3862c@Main>
Hello All,
I designed a simple optocoupled isolator for connecting the CAT
interface of our Yaesu FT1000MP MK5 to a PC.
The optocoupling avoids electrical and RF problems that you can have with a
simple RS232C cable in a contest environment.
If anyone is interested, go to http://www.hamlan.org/tech/tech.htm
Ciao and 73
Guido, ik2bcp / iu2r / ab9dg
>From ns3t at arrl.net Wed Apr 10 21:58:16 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
Message-ID: <003301c1e0f4$0a0dc080$0000a398@COMPUTER>
After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB contest over
the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
to those in charge of the WPX contest.
I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
More later.
Jamie NS3T
>From N6HC at aol.com Wed Apr 10 23:29:06 2002
From: N6HC@aol.com (N6HC@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL QSO Times
Message-ID: <18b.63b5eba.29e64ef2@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/10/02 1:59:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
w9sz@prairienet.org writes:
> QST had a note (I think in the "How's DX?" column) a while back about the
> "Martti Laine rule". If the callsign logged by the DX station was off by
> one character (for instance, if I got logged as W0SZ or W9SG) and the
> station logged did not submit a card in a reasonable time or did not
> contest the QSO, I would get the card.
>
I wish that the ZL9CI expedition followed the "Martti Laine rule". I got my
QSL card returned for a SSB contact because they had N5HC instead of N6HC in
their log at the exact time that I worked them! They refused to confirm my
contact! What a bunch of anal compulsives. I wonder if they ever got a QSL
from N5HC?
With best regards,
Arnie
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>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Wed Apr 10 23:32:36 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
Message-ID: <b4.9baaf49.29e64fc4@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/11/2002 2:09:06 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
ns3t@arrl.net writes:
> I again found evidence of
> disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
> to those in charge of the WPX contest.
>
Jamie,
I too am appaled at the thought of self-spotting or even disguised
self-spotting.
However, I am curious why you will be forwarding any findings of your
analysis to "those in charge of the WPX contest". Have you been designated
by the contest sponsors to do this analysis and report your findings, or are
you self appointed in this role? If you have been hired by the contest
sponsors to report your findings, I would like to see the criteria on which
you will base your judgement outlined in the contest rules. If you are self
appointed, I'd suggest you find something better to do. You are getting
yourself into a big rat trap, in my opinion!
What is the point of reporting any findings? Will those cited be
disqualified? And how will you really determine what is legitimate, but
frequently repeated spotting, during the contest vs. malicious self-spotting.
I for one do a lot of packet Assisted contest operating. It is my favorite
mode of contesting. Many times I will spot a DX station over and over when I
tune across them. I do this especially late in the contest when activity
waines for the DX station. I am alway hopeful that my spotting will bring on
those Q's on a band or mode previously missed by others. This is especially
true for Sweepstakes spotting.
Let me explain. Take a contest regular, such as HC8N. What is the harm in
spotting HC8N many times over on each band as you tune across him? The
intent is do drive traffic to him. Of course!
I'd appreciate your comments.
73, Geo...
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
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>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 11 06:58:07 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXSpider DX Cluster manual
Message-ID:
<20020411055808.46.c002-h012.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
I have posted the manual (in PDF) for the DXSpider
DX Cluster software on the YCCC website (under menu
item: Resources)
http://www.yccc.org/Resources/DXCluster/dxspider.pdf
(Thanks to Ken, K1EA, for the file)
73 Mike N2MG
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>From f5nly at free.fr Thu Apr 11 18:07:11 2002
From: f5nly@free.fr (F5NLY)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
References: <003301c1e0f4$0a0dc080$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Message-ID: <002201c1e16a$8f956480$915e933e@default>
Wow, interesting to see some sounds of "auto-spotting"... a point read in
WPX rules.
73 Lee.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jamie Dupree
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:58 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB contest over
the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
to those in charge of the WPX contest.
I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
More later.
Jamie NS3T
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>From widelitz at gte.net Thu Apr 11 09:03:07 2002
From: widelitz@gte.net (Ken Widelitz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team
U.A. E.
In-Reply-To: <01c1e14c$ddb6e6c0$LocalHost@default>
Message-ID: <BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>
So now you are selecting a station designer and letting him bring in his
hired guns to operate for him? Does he get to bring his towers and antennas
with him?
Its your stadium, your football, your rules, but this one makes no sense.
73, Ken, K6LA
>From david.e.burger at au.pwcglobal.com Fri Apr 12 12:02:31 2002
From: david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com (david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
Message-ID: <OFF871A305.4C75F0AD-ONCA256B99.0004E8D0@aap.pwcinternal.com>
I have never been able to use spotting in any contests, as generally my
contest station is out of range of convention carrier networks, but was
amazed to see I had been spotted over 20 times - and by people I do not
know - bar one.
I understand there is an Assisted Class in many contests, and they can use
the spottingnetwork and whatever quality (or quantity) that may bring.
The real issue is self spotting as mentioned in the rules - so if you saw a
VK8AA spot by VK2CZ then that would be grounds for disqualification as I
hold both calls.
Leave it to the WPX organisers to do proper data mining and come up with
their decisions.
David VK8AA / VK2CZ
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>From artinian at siol.net Fri Apr 12 09:34:35 2002
From: artinian@siol.net (Marijan Miletic, S56A)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Crown Plaza Dayton 17. 5. for KH1 crew
Message-ID: <009d01c1e1fc$e2cf5010$0100a8c0@S56A>
Any spare room available at Dayton Crown Plaza for KH1 returning crew led by
YT1AD?
Direct answers to artinian@siol.net would be appreciated until April 19th.
73 de Mario, S56A, N1YU
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>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Fri Apr 12 15:29:15 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ES OPEN on April 20th!
References: <BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>
Message-ID: <00a001c1e215$47457750$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Hallo dear friends and contesters,
I would like to invite you to participate in ES OPEN HF CHAMPIONSHIPS that will
take place on next Saturday, April 20th, 0500 to 0859 UTC. It is an interesting
short HF Contest on Saturday morning on 80 and 40 meters and there will be many
ES stations in the air! The best places will be awarded with beautiful trophies
from ERAU. You can also easily fulfil the requirements for ESTONIA AWARD. We
hope very much for active participation also from Western and Southern Europe
and even from other continents - You are very welcome!
NEW "COMPUTER FRIENDLY" RULES AND 2001 RESULTS are now available from:
http://www.erau.ee/modules.php?op=modload&name=Info&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=68&newlang=eng
You can also find TR LOG CONFIGURATION FILES FOR ES OPEN from the web site
above!!! TR LOG CAN BE EASILY USED FOR LOGGING NOW!!! Other logging programs
fit also well with new rules!
You can download TR Files directly from:
http://www.erau.ee/esopen.zip
Rules are new, more interesting and very easy now:
Contest takes place on 80 and 40m at the same time and in both modes.
There are 4 one hour periods: 0500 - 0559, 0600 - 0659, 0700 - 0759, 0800 -
0859 UTC.
You can work each station two times in one period regardless of mode - once on
40m and once on 80m. Thus 8 times in total during the contest.
Non ES stations can work only ES stations.
Each CW QSO gives 2 points and each SSB QSO gives 1 point.
Multipliers are ES region prefixes on each band and mode - thus maximum 40 for
A, D and F classes and 20 for B and C classes.
Report: RST + QSO number
Logs should be sent to esopen@erau.ee
Please check ERAU web site above for complete Rules and results from previous
years!
Please forward that info also to other fellow hams in your region who are
interested in contesting!
Hope very much to see you all in ES OPEN!
73
Tonno
ES5TV
ERAU HF MANAGER
es5tv@erau.ee
www.erau.ee
p.s. Please contact me for any questions and comments or if you want me to send
you TR Files via e-mail!
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>From k3mm at comcast.net Fri Apr 12 11:20:35 2002
From: k3mm@comcast.net (k3mm@comcast.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 -
Team U.A. E.
References: <BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>
Message-ID: <00f201c1e22d$3683d660$6400a8c0@Home>
Sure it does....money talks...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Widelitz" <widelitz@gte.net>
To: <ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi>; "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:03 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team
U.A. E.
> So now you are selecting a station designer and letting him bring in his
> hired guns to operate for him? Does he get to bring his towers and
antennas
> with him?
>
> Its your stadium, your football, your rules, but this one makes no sense.
>
> 73, Ken, K6LA
>
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>From geoiii at kkn.net Fri Apr 12 10:42:27 2002
From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III - K5TR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team
U.A. E.
In-Reply-To: <BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>; from Ken Widelitz
on Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 08:03:07AM -0700
References: <01c1e14c$ddb6e6c0$LocalHost@default>
<BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>
Message-ID: <20020412094227.F15721@loja.kkn.net>
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 08:03:07AM -0700, Ken Widelitz wrote:
> So now you are selecting a station designer and letting him bring in his
> hired guns to operate for him? Does he get to bring his towers and antennas
> with him?
>
> Its your stadium, your football, your rules, but this one makes no sense.
The team selection criteria was spelled out by the WRTC 2002
folks on June 5th 2001.
You can find it here:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/teams1.htm
This team would appear to be:
"The Organizer's Wild Card Team" as listed under the Special Teams section.
I dont see a problem with this - they are only doing what they planned to do.
Besides N6ZZ and K1ZM are compenent operators.
--
George Fremin III - K5TR
geoiii@kkn.net
http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Fri Apr 12 12:19:59 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest spots/this weekends antenna work
Message-ID: <01d801c1e235$82fdcde0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Like K5KG I find myself using packet during several contests and whenever I
tune past a station as he signs I type in his callsign...if it is a dupe
rather than just F11 I hit Alt-F3 (think that is it) to spot that station to
the cluster...mebbe the next guy will not stop there as it pops up on his
band map! I know I will spot the same guy many times during a contest...but
I do not keep mental note of this - that is what the machines are for.
This is not a slam on your observations...I find them interesting and the
thought of self spotting makes me sick...kind of like the unqiue principal
though - it should only be used as a POSSIBLE indicator of foul play... if a
guy gets spotted a lot more power to him as long as he ain't doin' it...he
is a "beacon" which ultimately your winners should be - never knew anyone
who S&P'd their way to #1!
In case you were getting ready to tune up for the next major contest - it is
the Florida QSO Party on April 27 & 28 - tweak your antennas for max gain
into Florida - we will be waiting for you! Follow the mobile teams as they
amass QSOs criss-crossing Florida.
15 days until FQP 2K2 - Florida fixed stations and mobiles please check into
the website and notify NS4W of your plans to activate which county(ies).
Check out the website at:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp/
Most of the counties have turned from Green to Orange - looks like more
clean sweeps will be available this year! Handsome certificates and plaques
are awarded each year - check out last years results and the rules and
records for the FQP at the above site - DEFINITELY READ THE EXCELLENT
WRITEUP BY K1TO, contest log crunching don't get any better!
FQP 2K2 - thanks to YOU we're running 'em!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
Florida Contest Group - sponsors of the Florida QSO Party
>From ddddd at attbi.com Fri Apr 12 10:06:09 2002
From: ddddd@attbi.com (Dave Tucker)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
Message-ID: <B8DC5400.3792%ddddd@attbi.com>
Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like to set
the record
straight for one and all
I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX whenever I was
in S&P
mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many were dx,
many were
domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O numerous times
is in
no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can only spot a
station
once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say, that's my
favorite band.
NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact was in
friendly
competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East and West
coast
stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed because I
didn't happen
to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I appreciated
the spots
that others posted.
Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need this crap
in our hobby.
Dave Tucker KA6BIM
Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
"After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
contest over
the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
to those in charge of the WPX contest.
I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
More later.
Jamie NS3T"
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Fri Apr 12 13:53:40 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] self-spotting
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEAJDFAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
Folks,
Self-spotting is just one more 'difficult to administer' situation,
where there is opportunity for deception, and no readily apparent
solution.
I would recommend keeping it simple.
If you are single op....you shouldn't be assisted, period.
If you're on an expedition, your home call shouldn't be calling
you out, as it suggests you're assisted by the folks at home.
If you are either m/m, m/s, or SOA, then you're assisted, anyway.
A socially accepted norm for self spotting ought to be developed..
say once or twice an hour, for discussion purposes.
The possibility of someone cloaking themselves as you, and spotting
you just to disqualify you, exists. There was recent evidence of it
coming out of EU on the CQDXirc site. How to protect against it?
Then comes the really interesting part....all of your club buddies
decide to 'help' you by calling you out early and often, so your
expedition can set a new record. More difficult to track and
administer...and possibly done out of ignorance or genuine good
will. The solution? Raise the penalty, so nobody can fail to be
aware of it. Castration might be on the extreme side....
and it would increase the risk of having a flock of dx coming back to
an increasing population of "yl's". So maybe the contest organizers
should contemplate enabling a "protest" scenario, as is done in
sailboat racing. DQ the entire club, AND expedition, if there is
even the suspicion of collusive behavior. The burden of detection is
placed on the contestants. File protest at the end of the race.
Sponsors get to be the judges.
There are significant differences in prop times among packet systems.
So it's possible for three or four guys to spot HC8N around the same
time, while being unaware of the OTHER guys who spotted. And not all
packet systems are linked during contests. Makes the problem even
knottier.
The alternative? No rule. No limit. Packet is...whatever the
bandwidth will support. But SO still can't use it. That's easiest to
administer.
Jim, N2EA
>From ad1c at yahoo.com Fri Apr 12 12:16:24 2002
From: ad1c@yahoo.com (Jim Reisert)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest spots/this weekends antenna work
In-Reply-To: <01d801c1e235$82fdcde0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20020412181624.42134.qmail@web13602.mail.yahoo.com>
--- Jim White <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> Like K5KG I find myself using packet during several contests and whenever I
> tune past a station as he signs I type in his callsign...if it is a dupe
> rather than just F11 I hit Alt-F3 (think that is it) to spot that station to
> the cluster...mebbe the next guy will not stop there as it pops up on his
> band map! I know I will spot the same guy many times during a contest...but
> I do not keep mental note of this - that is what the machines are for.
The "machines" also have a band map which will tell you if the station has been
spotted recently. I don't spot stations that are still in my band map. This
keeps the number of redundant spots down.
73 - Jim AD1C
=====
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USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
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>From k6iii at juno.com Fri Apr 12 19:18:01 2002
From: k6iii@juno.com (k6iii@juno.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
Message-ID: <20020412.181803.-354851.2.k6iii@juno.com>
Good solid and reasonable reply, Dave. I saw many of your spots and
appreciated them. I too spotted many friends so our NCCC guys could find
them; many more than once. I don't see the point ns3t is trying to make.
Certainly self-spotting is contrary to the rules, but spotting other
stations, no mater how many times is not against the rules. I wonder
where ns3t was observing these spots; perhaps some telnet node somewhere,
and what is his evidence (and criteria) for determing a self-spot has
occurred. Rather annoying to make this accusations without supporting
evidence.
de Jerry/k6iii
San Jose, CA
On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:06:09 -0800 Dave Tucker <ddddd@attbi.com> writes:
Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like
to set the record straight for one and all
I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX
whenever I was in S&P mode. I was very active and probably sent over
350 spots. Many were dx, many were domestic. Some more than once. That
I happened to spot NR6O numerous times is in no way a violation of any
rule. Where does it state that you can only spot a station once? <<<
snip >>>
Dave Tucker KA6BIM
>
>
>
> Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
>
> "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> contest over
> the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with
> the
> reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
> disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be
> forwarded
> to those in charge of the WPX contest.
>
> I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that
> frequently
> spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say
> that
> they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest;
> some
> of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
>
> MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
>
> 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
>
> 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
>
> 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
>
> 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
>
> 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
>
> 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
>
> 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
>
> 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
>
> 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
>
> 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
>
>
> More later.
>
> Jamie NS3T"
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>From ki9a at aol.com Fri Apr 12 15:50:42 2002
From: ki9a@aol.com (ki9a@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots-getting old!
Message-ID: <2DC7111B.73CBF469.00003FFE@aol.com>
C'mon guys. this tread is getting real old!
Here it is:
1) self spotting is illegal. Don't do it.
2) spotting others is OK. Do it. There are no limits. Deal with it.
I have recently started using packet during contests, it makes it a bit more
intersting for us little pistols. Yeah, damn right I spot my buddies. Show me
in the rules where I can't. I also spot guys who I don't even know, but I do
know they are out there busting their butts during any given weekend. Then,
there are the rare mults that I spot.
If someone has enough time to go over THOUSANDS of WPX spots, then post them
according to who spotted who, they really,really need to get a life!
If you don't like packet, don't use it. Period.
73-Chuck KI9A
>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 12 12:23:30 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PACKET AND SPOTTING
Message-ID: <02b401c1e257$87f81860$5a2afea9@sbcglobal.net>
I read with great amusement of all the foibles the packet-eers have thrust
upon themselves with accusations of "self spotting", etc etc, ad nauseum.
Be careful of what you ask for. You just might get it.
Jim Neiger
N6TJ
>From ns3t at arrl.net Fri Apr 12 18:06:52 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: NS3T's wild accusation
Message-ID: <001e01c1e265$f89e9040$5f20fccd@jvpcb01>
Dave -
Thanks for your note.
I am making no accusation of any wrongdoing by KA6BIM. I'm sorry you
see it differently. I merely ran some numbers. I don't believe
you did anything wrong at all.
I'm just searching for people who are abusing the system with
multiple spots of other stations.
Hope to work you sometime down the line.
73s
Jamie NS3T
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>
> To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:06 PM
> Subject: NS3T's wild accusation
>
>
> > Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like to
> set
> > the record
> > straight for one and all
> >
> > I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX whenever I
> was
> > in S&P
> > mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many were
dx,
> > many were
> > domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O numerous
> times
> > is in
> > no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can only
spot
> a
> > station
> > once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say, that's my
> > favorite band.
> > NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact was in
> > friendly
> > competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East and
West
> > coast
> > stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed because
I
> > didn't happen
> > to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I
> appreciated
> > the spots
> > that others posted.
> >
> > Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need this
crap
> > in our hobby.
> >
> > Dave Tucker KA6BIM
> >
> >
> >
> > Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
> >
> > "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> > contest over
> > the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
> > reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
> > disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
> > to those in charge of the WPX contest.
> >
> > I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
> > spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
> > they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
> > of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
> >
> > MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
> >
> > 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
> >
> > 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
> >
> > 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
> >
> > 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
> >
> > 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
> >
> > 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
> >
> > 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
> >
> > 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
> >
> > 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> > PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
> >
> > 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
> >
> >
> > More later.
> >
> > Jamie NS3T"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Fri Apr 12 22:13:38 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots-getting old!
In-Reply-To: <2DC7111B.73CBF469.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004701c1e266$eaec97c0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Its not the fact that we don't like packet, its that we don't like
obvious attempts to get around a rule in some contests. Especially not
when there is relatively easy to track evidence from ip addresses used
to make the spots. It just takes some time to sort it all out. Database
tools make it easy to find odd patterns, the key is to sort out the
abuses from the coincidences before taking action.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of ki9a@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 18:51
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots-getting old!
>
> C'mon guys. this tread is getting real old!
>
> Here it is:
> 1) self spotting is illegal. Don't do it.
> 2) spotting others is OK. Do it. There are no limits. Deal with it.
>
> I have recently started using packet during contests, it makes it a
bit
> more intersting for us little pistols. Yeah, damn right I spot my
buddies.
> Show me in the rules where I can't. I also spot guys who I don't even
> know, but I do know they are out there busting their butts during any
> given weekend. Then, there are the rare mults that I spot.
>
> If someone has enough time to go over THOUSANDS of WPX spots, then
post
> them according to who spotted who, they really,really need to get a
life!
>
> If you don't like packet, don't use it. Period.
>
> 73-Chuck KI9A
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>From kr6x at kr6x.com Fri Apr 12 18:00:06 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 -
Team U.A. E.
Message-ID: <00ae01c1e27e$2ccdb540$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
> Besides N6ZZ and K1ZM are competent operators.
I'd be making an understatement if I seconded that
opinion. In spades. But, then, Ken is aware of this also.
I think Ken's post would come under the category of
humor for the masses on the reflector. Of course, a
lot of my own very serious posts are sometimes seen
as humor here.
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Fremin III - K5TR" <geoiii@kkn.net>
To: "Ken Widelitz" <widelitz@gte.net>
Cc: <ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi>; "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 09:42
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 -
Team U.A. E.
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 08:03:07AM -0700, Ken Widelitz wrote:
> > So now you are selecting a station designer and letting him bring in his
> > hired guns to operate for him? Does he get to bring his towers and
antennas
> > with him?
> >
> > Its your stadium, your football, your rules, but this one makes no
sense.
>
> The team selection criteria was spelled out by the WRTC 2002
> folks on June 5th 2001.
>
> You can find it here:
>
> http://www.wrtc2002.org/teams1.htm
>
>
> This team would appear to be:
>
> "The Organizer's Wild Card Team" as listed under the Special Teams
section.
>
>
> I dont see a problem with this - they are only doing what they planned to
do.
>
> Besides N6ZZ and K1ZM are compenent operators.
>
>
> --
> George Fremin III - K5TR
> geoiii@kkn.net
> http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>
>
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>From k0hb at earthlink.net Sat Apr 13 01:50:58 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?iso-8859-1?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: NS3T's wild accusation
References: <001e01c1e265$f89e9040$5f20fccd@jvpcb01>
Message-ID: <00ff01c1e27c$e6176700$3c11be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Dupree" <ns3t@arrl.net>
>
> I'm just searching for people who are abusing the system with
> multiple spots of other stations.
>
>From k2av at contesting.com Fri Apr 12 22:01:14 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: NS3T's wild accusation
References: <001e01c1e265$f89e9040$5f20fccd@jvpcb01>
Message-ID: <00ad01c1e286$b5a74d60$0500a8c0@swift>
How does one define "abuse" of the system? Who owns the rules? Who are
the enlightened, privileged ones who gets to define "abuse"? Just the
contest committees, who necessarily have that in their job
description.
Self-spotting is forbidden in contest rules, as is use of spots by
unassisted entry categories. Aside from that?
Nothing down that I know of sets any numeric limits for spotting or
any such. Nor is there anything that says you can only spot stations
in which you have no personal interest.
All the rest is just a personal take (horrors, an attempt to impose
one's own personal druthers on the masses?).
Try carefully defining "abuse" and make the case for the definition,
if you can. A contest committee might be listening, then again, maybe
not.
73, Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Dupree" <ns3t@arrl.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 5:06 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: NS3T's wild accusation
>
> Dave -
>
> Thanks for your note.
>
> I am making no accusation of any wrongdoing by KA6BIM. I'm sorry
you
> see it differently. I merely ran some numbers. I don't believe
> you did anything wrong at all.
>
> I'm just searching for people who are abusing the system with
> multiple spots of other stations.
>
> Hope to work you sometime down the line.
>
> 73s
> Jamie NS3T
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>
> > To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> > Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:06 PM
> > Subject: NS3T's wild accusation
> >
> >
> > > Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would
like to
> > set
> > > the record
> > > straight for one and all
> > >
> > > I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX
whenever I
> > was
> > > in S&P
> > > mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many
were
> dx,
> > > many were
> > > domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O
numerous
> > times
> > > is in
> > > no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can
only
> spot
> > a
> > > station
> > > once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say,
that's my
> > > favorite band.
> > > NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact
was in
> > > friendly
> > > competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East
and
> West
> > > coast
> > > stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed
because
> I
> > > didn't happen
> > > to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I
> > appreciated
> > > the spots
> > > that others posted.
> > >
> > > Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need
this
> crap
> > > in our hobby.
> > >
> > > Dave Tucker KA6BIM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
> > >
> > > "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> > > contest over
> > > the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work
with the
> > > reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence
of
> > > disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be
forwarded
> > > to those in charge of the WPX contest.
> > >
> > > I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that
frequently
> > > spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people
say that
> > > they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour
contest; some
> > > of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
> > >
> > > MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
> > >
> > > 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
> > >
> > > 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
> > >
> > > 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
> > >
> > > 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
> > >
> > > 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
> > >
> > > 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
> > >
> > > 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
> > >
> > > 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
> > >
> > > 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> > > PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
> > >
> > > 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
> > >
> > >
> > > More later.
> > >
> > > Jamie NS3T"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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>
>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 13 04:32:06 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
References: <B8DC5400.3792%ddddd@attbi.com>
Message-ID: <3CB798A6.F41D6D60@harborside.com>
Dave Tucker wrote:
>
> I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX >whenever I was
> in S&P mode.
Hi Dave
Did you ask these stations if they wanted to be spotted?? I've
read posts where lots of DX stations don't want to be spotted
during a contest. Slows the rate down considerably. Maybe we
can have a new category MSBASDAC--Most Spots By A Station During
A Contest.
Tom W7WHY
>From w3gh at kiski.net Sat Apr 13 00:35:34 2002
From: w3gh@kiski.net (Robert W. King)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Room needed at Dayton
Message-ID: <000f01c1e29c$460e4380$1dbfc3d1@oemcomputer>
Anyone have an extra room at Crowne Plaza
or willing to share expenses? May 16-17-18.
Bob W3GH
>From vk4uc at ozemail.com.au Sat Apr 13 15:15:57 2002
From: vk4uc@ozemail.com.au (John Cashen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release
#18 - Team U.A. E.
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020413140329.00ab2760@mail.ozemail.com.au>
I don't know if anyone has noticed, but the "Continent" of Oceania is not
represented in the World Championships. If a station entry in the Oceania
could have been allowed to use"hired guns" perhaps our part of the world
would have been included too. We have been hosting top contesters for CQWW
and other contests for many years now.
BTW Oceania was represented in the past two WRTCs.
73
John VK4UC
>From va3uz at rac.ca Sat Apr 13 11:24:00 2002
From: va3uz@rac.ca (VA3UZ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] My WPX CW UBN file
Message-ID: <007801c1e2f6$e8a8e6e0$0201a8c0@yuri>
Bad or non verifiable CALL SIGNS excluded from the score:
QSO: 21032 CW 2001-05-26 1530 VA3UZ 599 1047 VE3RKF 599
126
QSO: 14044 CW 2001-05-27 0315 VA3UZ 599 1976 K0IAL 599
194
Ironically, just heard K0IAL on 20 m SSB. Mike from Iowa....
One more funny thing:
QSOs found, by cross checking, to have unmatchable serial numbers not
excluded from the score:
QSO: 21032 CW 2001-05-26 1751 VA3UZ 599 1271 N6NF 599
27
..............................................Serial number should be: 1
< SNIP >
QSO: 14025 CW 2001-05-27 2241 VA3UZ 599 2887 N6NF 599
267
..............................................Serial number should be: 1
Does N6NF have all the serial numbers "1" in his LOG? :-)) Just curios.
73 Yuri VA3UZ
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Sat Apr 13 11:37:52 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spotting statistics
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEBGDFAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
The problem with data...any data...is understanding it. NS3T's doesn't
take into account the TOTAL NUMBER OF SPOTS FROM EACH STATION. It may
be that what is reported represents only a small percentage of total spots
for any given station, and is not only not material statistically, it might
not be memorable during the heat of a contest.
Take an extreme case....Suppose a m/m has a mult hunting/spotting position.
All it's doing is feeding the station network with mults for band S&P
follow-up,
and dumping spots on the net. It might spot...10-15 an hour, for 48 hours.
That's 480 to 720 spots in a contest. Suppose there are different ops in that
chair. What is the chance they'll randomly spot HC8N 4 times on 10 meters?
When 10 is hot, I'd say pretty fair. Chances of 10-12 spots happening are
high, in fact.
What does it mean? Absolutely nothing, statistically.
Let's take the top poster on Jamie's list....IR3P. He spotted FM5GU 30 times,
half of which were on 20 meters. Is there something wrong with that? Suppose
IR3P has buddies who NEED FM, and he was making sure they knew where he was.
We don't know whether that was 100% of IR3P's total spots, or 1%; but
it was probably in the minority. It averages less than one an hour...and less
than one every TWO hours on 20 meters. Is that a lot? Doesn't seem so.
Here's another factor:
Most EU spots tend to go to DXSummit, and are visible worldwide. Some US clubs
still close their network to outside spots...and vice versa....so you might
have
more aggressive spotting within a club than is visible globally. Where's the
fairness factor there?
Again, I urge caution in reaching judgement on this issue. If you stipulate
that self-spotting is a proscribed behavior, then the only remaining question
is "what's excessive spotting of other guys?".
My response would be, "Who cares?". Why discourage spotting at all? The more
you spot, the more you drain resource that could be producing Q's for your own
station. If you overdo it, the packet bandwidth starts to backlog. It's a
self-limiting behavior, both ways.
Let's talk about something else.
Jim Jarvis, N2EA
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Apr 13 13:42:50 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <01df01c1e30a$5d503440$03010a0a@office1>
Tom,
My experience was exactly the opposite -- I had a lot of DX stations (I
stopped counting at 30) ask me to put them on the cluster. I had 2 or 3
that seemed perturbed when I declined -- one S5 station called me a, hmmm,
compared me to a portion of the human anatomy that rarely see much sunshine
(and maybe I am sometimes, aren't we all, but that still does not strike me
as an appropriate transmission during the contest!).
Personally, I found NS3T's statistics interesting but inconclusive. Since
we don't know who actually generated the spots, proving self-spotting
without further details would be difficult. Be so as it may, while I think
a rule clarification regarding soliciting for or self-spotting may be worth
considering for most contests, I don't know what more can be done.
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Osborne <w7why@harborside.com>
Reply-To: w7why@harborside.com
Organization: Amateur Radio W7WHY
To: CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
Dave Tucker wrote:
>
> I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX
>whenever I was in S&P mode.
Hi Dave
Did you ask these stations if they wanted to be spotted?? I've
read posts where lots of DX stations don't want to be spotted
during a contest. Slows the rate down considerably. Maybe we
can have a new category MSBASDAC--Most Spots By A Station During
A Contest.
Tom W7WHY
>From yt3t at absolutok.net Sat Apr 13 21:00:48 2002
From: yt3t@absolutok.net (Kele YT3T)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <001601c1e315$24df0ae0$9ce45d50@pentium>
Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
U.A.E. guest ops...
For an average YU ham, you are ALL very wealthy, and from our point of view,
the sport of contesting is "money talks' indeed. To let you get an idea, an
average YU ham has to spend his whole 2-year income to be able to set a
station consisting of: one modern transceiver, one kilowatt amplifier, one
rotor, one modest tower, one tribander and minimum of required cables and
wires. I did NOT say 2-year savings, but 2-year salaries. And just a few
months more to get a modest computer.
I do not think that A61AJ have spent his 2+year income to set his station,
just as many of you who maintain super stations.
So, the real money consumption in contesting activities happens in my
neighbourhood, and I am desperate, since they all expect me to run this
race. Oh well, I hope some of you will print your QSL cards at my printshop
:-)
73
Kele
YT3T, YU1AO
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sat Apr 13 19:19:39 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] station availability
Message-ID: <004901c1e317$c66a1b00$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
My station is available for most of the spring/summer contests. I am
booked for WPX CW, NE QSO Party, CQ-M, and maybe IARU. If you are
interested in trying out any of the other summer contests please contact
me directly. This is a chance to try out big antennas, different radios
and amps, bring friends and do a multi-op, etc.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From n4zr at contesting.com Sat Apr 13 15:43:22 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
In-Reply-To: <001601c1e315$24df0ae0$9ce45d50@pentium>
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020413144147.0532caa0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 08:00 PM 4/13/02 +0200, Kele YT3T wrote:
>Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
>U.A.E. guest ops...
I have been searching in vain for the press release that started all this
-- The WRTC web site does not have press release #18. Could it possibly be
a hoax? If not, could someone either send me the text directly or point me
to a URL?
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From japancorporateresearch at compuserve.com Sat Apr 13 16:07:20 2002
From: japancorporateresearch@compuserve.com (Hal Offutt)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Upcoming Contests for Mobiles
Message-ID: <200204131507_MC3-F9B8-FA62@compuserve.com>
Hi,
Most of you probably read the great article by Jim K8MR on mobile
contesting in the March/April 2002 issue of NCJ.
Jim pointed out the similarity between the mobile category in state QSO
parties and the WRTC: operators in both events compete from very similar
stations and under very similar conditions. He explained the great fun and
challenge of mobile contesting: laying out a route before the contest,
operating from a vehicle while enjoying the countryside scenery, good
pileups and rates, and real competition. He also noted how much fun it can
be for non-mobile stations to follow the mobiles around and work them in
each new county they enter.
Mobile contesting has become increasingly popular during the past few
years. I think this is mainly due to the involvement of contest clubs in
the resurrection of the FQP, the OQP, the GAQP and the MQP and their
success in getting a lot of first class ops out on the roads. Another
enabling factor is the availability of so many compact 12V HF rigs at
reasonable prices. More and more state QSO parties now have achieved what
I think is the minimum number of active mobiles (six to eight) necessary to
make an interesting event for all participants. I expect to see even more
mobiles out there in the future as people discover just how much fun this
form of contesting is.
Four of the best events for mobile contesting are coming up over the next
three weeks. If Jim's article stimulated your interest with his article,
you will have ample opportunity coming up to experience this brand of
contesting activity, either from your home QTH or from your own vehicle.
Brief information on these events is shown below.
First, a couple of notes:
1. These events are rapidly becoming true *CONTESTS*, not simply low-key
county hunting events. The counties are the means, not the end. Most of
the mobile operators in the events I detail below (with one exception) are
not especially interested in county hunting. If you do chase counties,
though, there's no better forum.
2. Some of the top ops in the country are getting out there on the road in
these events. Take a look at the results from previous years and at the
list of guys planning to operate this year and you'll see what I mean.
3. Although these contests are all centered in the US, activity from
outside the US is permitted and very welcome.
4. There are pileups every time a mobile changes counties. That's around
160 pileups during a 12 hour contest where 8 mobiles each change counties
20 times. This is a great opportunity to practice your pileup-busting
technique. How often can you be the first station into the mobile's log?
5. Plenty of cool wallpaper and plaques available.
Upcoming Contests with Major Mobile Activity
1. Michigan QSO Party, sponsored by the Mad River Radio Club, April 20-21
A 12 hour event from 1600Z to 0400Z Saturday (noon to midnight EDST). Nine
mobiles were active last year, with the winner making 924 contacts. SSB
and CW but emphasis on CW. Mobiles handed out nearly 5,000 contacts in
all. Attracts some of the top ops in the Midwest. Most MI counties get
activated.
Rules and results: http://mrrc.net
2. Florida QSO Party, sponsored by the Florida Contest Group, April 27-28
A 20 hour event in two ten-hour time periods: Sat 1600Z to 0159Z (noon to
10 PM EDST) and Sun 1200Z to 2159Z (8 AM to 6 PM EDST). SSB and CW, good
activity on both modes. 10 mobiles were active last year and there were
403 total log submissions. All FL counties were active. High mobile QSO
count was 1207.
Rules and results: http://www.qsl.net/fcg
3. New England QSO Party, sponsored by YCCC and several local clubs, May
4-5
A 20 hour event in two time periods: Sat 2000Z to 0300Z (4 PM to 11 PM
EDST) and Sun 1100Z to 2400Z (7 AM to 8 PM EDST).
Both SSB and CW. This is the first running of a new event that brings the
six small New England states under one QSO party umbrella. Promises to
turn some sleepy NE state QSO parties into a real contest. 8 mobiles have
already announced plans to be active, and the sponsors are aiming to get
all NE counties on.
Rules: http://neqp.org
4. County Hunters' Contest CW, sponsored by the Mobile Amateur Radio
Awards Club, May 4-5
A 48 hour event from 0000Z Saturday to 2400Z Sunday (8 PM Friday night to 8
PM Sunday night EDST). CW only. No significant activity during the night.
Fixed stations can work each other as well as the mobiles but mobiles
count 15 points against 1 point for fixed station contacts, so activity is
focussed on the mobiles. This is the only event of the year where mobiles
in different states can contact and compete with each other. 15 mobiles
were active in 2001, with the winner's QSO total at 1905 and the high
multiplier at 340. The overlap with the NEQP this year should make for
even more activity.
The Indiana QSO Party is also scheduled for Saturday, May 4 from 1300Z to
0500Z (9 AM to 1 AM) so you can work the NEQP, the CHC, and the INQP at the
same time. Info at www.qsl.net/kj9d/inqp/rules.html.
73 & GL,
Hal W1NN
______________________________________
Japan Corporate Research
Research and Consulting Services on Japan
www.japancorporateresearch.com
>From K3EST at cqww.com Sat Apr 13 13:54:08 2002
From: K3EST@cqww.com (Bob Cox)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB reports
Message-ID: <007c01c1e325$1452a460$ae2b5142@rockne>
Dear Fellow Contesters,
The 2001 CQ WW SSB UBN and NIL reports are now available for you at
http://www.cqww.com . Just find your call and click. Enter your password which
everyone who submitted an email log received. If you submitted only a paper
log your call will not appear on the list.
In a few weeks we will place a list of calls + categories + clubs on the
cqww.com web site for you to check. An announcement will be made.
The CQ WW will require the cabrillo format for submissions starting with the
2002 contest. All the non-cabrillo 2001 SSB logs on the CQ WW website have been
converted to the carbillo format by the CQ WW Committee. The cabrillo format is
available with the major contest logging programs.
Although we are sure that you are familiar with the reasons why cabrillo is
important, here is the main reason: It allows the easy assembly of all the data
necessary for compiling the results by the contest sponsor. Without cabrillo
the CQ WW Committee must deal with many, many logging formats....which takes
many, now unneeded, hundreds of hours.
Approximately 70 % of the logs received for the 2001 CQ WW SSB test were
already in the cabrillo format. This was great! Thanks.
73
Bob, K3EST
CQ WW Director
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>From bagno at mai.ru Sun Apr 14 01:43:12 2002
From: bagno@mai.ru (Dmitri Bagno (RW3FO))
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
Message-ID: <007001c1e32c$e0ca3920$0100007f@localhost>
Two nice certificates came today for EuSprint 2001 --
thank you Paolo, Dave, Bernhard & Karel!
--Dmitri (RW3FO)
>From ad6e at inreach.com Sat Apr 13 00:31:43 2002
From: ad6e@inreach.com (Alan Maenchen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
References: <B8DC5400.3792%ddddd@attbi.com>
Message-ID: <002301c1e27b$aa6fe840$0e0bfea9@am>
Thanks Dave for bringing this to light.
Its one of the reasons I've un-subscribed to CQ-Contest
If NS3T doesn't want to see all those spots he should turn it off.
So far as "self spotting" goes, he should correlate the spotter to be one of
the operators at said spotted station. Looks like his list is simply a list
of frequently spotted stations .. not self spotted. However, even that may
not "work" since an operator can legally spot a M/M station while he is
operating somewhere else, then go work from that M/M later (or earlier). No
problem for non-ARRL contests.
Al AD6E (also, part-time op at KX7M)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>
To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 17:06
Subject: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
> Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like to
set
> the record
> straight for one and all
>
> I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX whenever I
was
> in S&P
> mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many were dx,
> many were
> domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O numerous
times
> is in
> no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can only spot
a
> station
> once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say, that's my
> favorite band.
> NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact was in
> friendly
> competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East and West
> coast
> stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed because I
> didn't happen
> to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I
appreciated
> the spots
> that others posted.
>
> Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need this crap
> in our hobby.
>
> Dave Tucker KA6BIM
>
>
>
> Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
>
> "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> contest over
> the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
> reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
> disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
> to those in charge of the WPX contest.
>
> I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
> spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
> they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
> of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
>
> MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
>
> 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
>
> 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
>
> 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
>
> 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
>
> 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
>
> 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
>
> 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
>
> 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
>
> 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
>
> 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
>
>
> More later.
>
> Jamie NS3T"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> NCCC@contesting.com
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>
>From ns3t at arrl.net Sat Apr 13 20:44:21 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: spotting statistics
Message-ID: <002e01c1e345$35adb670$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Jim -
Thanks for your note.
I should have been more clear in my original posting. I opened the
discussion about self spotting, but then posted data on something else.
That was probably a mistake and has resulted in a bit of tempest. :-)
So here is the background that some have asked for...and I
am making NO judgment about these spots. I simply thought
the raw numbers of spots were interesting, that's why I posted them
in the first place.
The reason I got into this is that during the ARRL contest, someone
spotted under my call. A quick review showed that's happening more
than we would probably like to admit...but that is not what these
numbers are about. These are raw numbers of what stations
spotted another station the most - that's all.
---
IR3P made 30 spots of FM5GU - IR3P made no other spots
in the contest.
S51QN made 28 spots of S58M - S51QN made only one
other spot in the contest.
CE4CVN made 28 spots of CB4A - CE4VCN made a total of
38 spots in the WPX.
OK1WWJ made 21 spots of OL5T - OK1WWJ made only
two other contest spots that weekend.
RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times - RK3QWA made
112 spots in the WPX.
N2QER spotted NY6DX 13 times - N2QER made 33 total spots.
UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - UR7IJQ made only
one other WPX contest spot.
PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - PY2SBY made
a total of 28 spots in the contest.
KA6BIM spotted NR6O 10 times - as KA6BIM has pointed
out, he made many more overall spots, a total of 436,
making this a very small minority.
KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - KC5JSO made a
total of 19 WPX spots.
So there we go. I am making no wild accusations here -
I'm just running numbers and looking for a discussion.
I'm not trying to discourage spotting or cast it in a negative
light. I still plan to talk further about self spots. But that
is later, not in the above numbers.
Jamie NS3T
>From w5xd at writelog.com Sun Apr 14 01:37:15 2002
From: w5xd@writelog.com (W. Wright, W5XD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots. who needs 'em?
Message-ID: <000d01c1e34c$870dc210$6400000a@W5XD>
Am I the only person on the planet that thinks running packet in a contest
REDUCES the enjoyment of the weekend? If the guys that are complaining at
each other about abusing packet would all just quit using it, they might
discover you enjoy the sense of accomplishment that comes with finding your
own multipliers.
As a software vendor I get requests that I can paraphrase as "please improve
the aim of your software for shooting fish in a barrel--there were 100 fish
in that barrel last weekend and I could have shot more than 90 of them if
your software were better". I do attempt to "improve the aim" (should I?),
but one the great mysteries of life is why folks don't try to go find fish
that haven't been put the the barrel yet?
Wayne, W5XD
>From otterstad at enter.vg Sun Apr 14 05:42:38 2002
From: otterstad@enter.vg (otterstad@enter.vg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
In-Reply-To: <001601c1e315$24df0ae0$9ce45d50@pentium>
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
<001601c1e315$24df0ae0$9ce45d50@pentium>
Message-ID: <20020414024238.552C111712@mail1.vg.eunet.no>
Kele YT3T <yt3t@absolutok.net>:
> Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to
the selection of
> U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> For an average YU ham, you are ALL very wealthy, and
from our point of
> view,
> the sport of contesting is "money talks' indeed. To
let you get an idea, an
> average YU ham has to spend his whole 2-year income
to be able to set a
> station consisting of: one modern transceiver, one
kilowatt amplifier, one
> rotor, one modest tower, one tribander and minimum of
required cables and
> wires. I did NOT say 2-year savings, but 2-year
salaries. And just a few
> months more to get a modest computer.
Thanks for putting this into a different perspective ,
Kele. We need to be reminded from time to time how
priviledged we are !
73 Rag W7/LA5HE
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Sun Apr 14 04:57:29 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
In-Reply-To: <200204140115.g3E1FUAl013265@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020414033001.00a98700@pop.pacific.net.hk>
Hmmm... I thought we were tuned to cq-contest. ;^)
Cheers to NS3T for his subsequent clarification of intention. I beginning
to think
I was the only one who could sense it was such to begin with.
Obviously, neither KA6BIM nor NR6O (that's N6RO, right?) are to be confused
with some of the dodgy spotters out there. And the raw data NS3T presented
does show how the good guys can look like those that might not be so good.
Let's not get carried away here or take things out of context,
either. Remember,
NS3T - like myself - found he was making spots that he didn't. Some dodgy
stuff is going on out there. I sense some here have forgotten that or may not
have seen the start of the thread & others seem not to follow much of it at all
from what they have contributed to the discussion.
IMHO, sometimes it's hard to even bring stuff up here for level-headed
reasonable
discussion of the sort I would expect from radiosporting enthusiasts & some of
the reaction seen on this thread is why. I'll now retire to the roof to
read the
Sunday papers & contemplate the reaction that may result from this post as no
doubt somebody will not read it in the friendly tone in which it was written.
No frame intended - sorry my poor Engrish!
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From kg6ok at pacbell.net Sun Apr 14 06:12:51 2002
From: kg6ok@pacbell.net (Herb Rosenberg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Win a Complete Amateur Radio Station?
Message-ID: <3CB90FD3.A315556@pacbell.net>
How would you like to win a Complete Amateur Radio Station?
Interested? Well, if you come to the International DX Convention in
Visalia, CA on Friday - Sunday, April 26-28, 2002, and you buy enough
raffle tickets, and you are very very lucky.....
You could walk out with all of this....... (a complete custom dream
station, and more..... )
For a HF radio,
How about an ICOM 706MKII, Alinco DX77, Kenwood TS2000, and Yaesu
FT1000MP Mark V HF transceivers?
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How about a Force 12 XR5 Beam, M2 KT36XA Beam, Cushcraft AW3S, Fulid
Motion SteppIR Dipole, World Radio ZX20 Beam, and Butternut HV2
Vertical?
For Cabling,
How about 125 feet of National Wire & Cable premium rotor and coaxial
cables?
For a Tower,
How about a US Tower TX-455 (yes, the whole tower)
For a microphone,
How about a Heil Goldline Microphone & and Heil Proset Head Set and a
Limited Edition Astatic D-104 Collector's microphone?
For a Key,
How about a Bencher BY-1 Keyer and a Idiom Press LogiKey Iambic Keyer
For Station Accessories,
How about a AOR Multi terminal PSK, RTTY, decoder, Daiwa Watt Meters, a
HAL DPX38 RTTY Demodulator, ClearSpeech speakers, DXer Dream Clocks, and
Coffee Mugs?
Oh, yeah, and don't forget about,
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For your Neighbors,
How about some low pass filters, phone filters, and ear muffs?
For your YL and / or XYL, you will have to have,
Wild Women Pins and collectibles
For Miscellaneous Stuff, that no shack is complete without,
How about a few thousand pre-printed deluxe QSL cards, Collector item
ARRL Operating Manual, Collector Item ARRL Antenna Book, and a wide
assortment of other books, cd's, and publications?
For Callbooks,
How about your choice of CDROM Callbooks from Buckmaster and Radio
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For Logging and Contesting,
How about logging and contest software from DX4WIN, Writelog, NA, EQF
Software, LOGic 5, MiLog, and others?
For HF Mobile Operating,
How about mobile antenna products from HI-Q Antennas, K6MB, W6AAQ, KJ7U,
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How about deep deep discount certificates on the purchase of ACOM,
ALPHA, and Henry Radio Amplifiers & Tri-ex towers?
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How about a life time subscription to World Radio Magazine, and 1 year
subscriptions to CQ Magazine, Popular Communications, DX Magazine, QRZ
DX, Daily DX, Weekly DX, Low Band Monitor, RTY Journal, and the K1BV
Awards Directories?
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How about some VHF / UHF / FRS handheld radios?
For Gift Certificates,
How about gift certificates to Amateur Electronic Supply - Las Vegas,
The Wireman, Idiom Press, Peter Dahl Co, and Elecraft?
Interested? Well, come to the International DX Convention, and you may
just walk out with all of this stuff, and more.
For details, check our web site at:
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>From trogo at telegraphy.com Sun Apr 14 00:52:28 2002
From: trogo@telegraphy.com (Tony Rogozinski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
<5.1.0.14.0.20020413144147.0532caa0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <01c401c1e380$f7f174c0$012cfea9@ph.cox.net>
Give me a break for Goodness Sakes! The sponsors/organizers of this event -
in
writing - have reserved the right to invite a team of their choosing - and
in this
case we know who it is. So quit bitching and accept the fact that they made
a
decision regardless of how or why it was done. You guys sound like a bunch
of babies! Get your shit together and concentrate on the business at hand
which
is to win the contest once it takes place. Interestingly I don't see any
derogatory
postings by the guys who usually do win.
Tony N7BG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
> At 08:00 PM 4/13/02 +0200, Kele YT3T wrote:
> >Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
> >U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> I have been searching in vain for the press release that started all this
> -- The WRTC web site does not have press release #18. Could it possibly
be
> a hoax? If not, could someone either send me the text directly or point
me
> to a URL?
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sun Apr 14 13:25:30 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB reports
In-Reply-To: <007c01c1e325$1452a460$ae2b5142@rockne>
Message-ID: <002d01c1e3af$77f06630$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Is there someplace were a summary of ubn statistics is published? Best,
worst, average, type breakdowns??
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From k7sv at va.prestige.net Sun Apr 14 10:19:37 2002
From: k7sv@va.prestige.net (Larry Schimelpfenig)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
References: <200204140115.g3E1F1Al013256@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000801c1e3b7$07bafda0$1e2e4144@frbgva.adelphia.net>
Is it increasing age that is causing me to have trouble understanding folks
these days?
Pete Smith (N4ZR) asked for a copy or URL of WRTC 2002 release 18. I assume
Pete, like myself, would like to read it to better understand what the
thread is all about. Having no luck in finding 18, the best I can do is
form conclusions based on the fragments that have appeared in the thread.
This morning Tony Rogozinski (N7BG) responds to Pete in derogatory terms
that have nothing to do with Pete's request.
My two long term loves in ham radio have been contesting and dxing. The lack
of discipline and apathy of a large percentage of the dx crowd has reduced
my primary interest in the hobby to contesting. Perhaps it's in my best
interest to stop reading the reflectors and just get on and work the
contests I enjoy.
73 de Larry K7SV
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Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 9:15 PM
Subject: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #101 - 12 msgs
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. My WPX CW UBN file (VA3UZ)
> 2. spotting statistics (jljarvis)
> 3. Re: NS3T's wild accusation (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
> 4. Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.) (Kele YT3T)
> 5. station availability (David Robbins)
> 6. Re: Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.) (Pete Smith)
> 7. Upcoming Contests for Mobiles (Hal Offutt)
> 8. SSB reports (Bob Cox)
> 9. Re: Eu Sprint 2002 (Dmitri Bagno (RW3FO))
> 10. Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation (Alan Maenchen)
> 11. Re: spotting statistics (Jamie Dupree)
> 12. spots. who needs 'em? (W. Wright, W5XD)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> From: "VA3UZ" <va3uz@rac.ca>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] My WPX CW UBN file
>
> Bad or non verifiable CALL SIGNS excluded from the score:
>
> QSO: 21032 CW 2001-05-26 1530 VA3UZ 599 1047 VE3RKF 599
> 126
> QSO: 14044 CW 2001-05-27 0315 VA3UZ 599 1976 K0IAL 599
> 194
>
> Ironically, just heard K0IAL on 20 m SSB. Mike from Iowa....
>
> One more funny thing:
>
> QSOs found, by cross checking, to have unmatchable serial numbers not
> excluded from the score:
>
> QSO: 21032 CW 2001-05-26 1751 VA3UZ 599 1271 N6NF
599
> 27
> ..............................................Serial number should be:
1
>
>
> < SNIP >
>
>
> QSO: 14025 CW 2001-05-27 2241 VA3UZ 599 2887 N6NF 599
> 267
> ..............................................Serial number should be:
1
>
> Does N6NF have all the serial numbers "1" in his LOG? :-)) Just curios.
>
>
> 73 Yuri VA3UZ
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> From: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] spotting statistics
>
>
>
> The problem with data...any data...is understanding it. NS3T's doesn't
> take into account the TOTAL NUMBER OF SPOTS FROM EACH STATION. It may
> be that what is reported represents only a small percentage of total spots
> for any given station, and is not only not material statistically, it
might
> not be memorable during the heat of a contest.
>
> Take an extreme case....Suppose a m/m has a mult hunting/spotting
position.
> All it's doing is feeding the station network with mults for band S&P
follow-up,
> and dumping spots on the net. It might spot...10-15 an hour, for 48
hours.
> That's 480 to 720 spots in a contest. Suppose there are different ops in
that
> chair. What is the chance they'll randomly spot HC8N 4 times on 10
meters?
> When 10 is hot, I'd say pretty fair. Chances of 10-12 spots happening are
> high, in fact.
>
> What does it mean? Absolutely nothing, statistically.
>
> Let's take the top poster on Jamie's list....IR3P. He spotted FM5GU 30
times,
> half of which were on 20 meters. Is there something wrong with that?
Suppose
> IR3P has buddies who NEED FM, and he was making sure they knew where he
was.
> We don't know whether that was 100% of IR3P's total spots, or 1%; but
> it was probably in the minority. It averages less than one an hour...and
less
> than one every TWO hours on 20 meters. Is that a lot? Doesn't seem so.
>
> Here's another factor:
> Most EU spots tend to go to DXSummit, and are visible worldwide. Some US
clubs
> still close their network to outside spots...and vice versa....so you
might have
> more aggressive spotting within a club than is visible globally. Where's
the
> fairness factor there?
>
> Again, I urge caution in reaching judgement on this issue. If you
stipulate
> that self-spotting is a proscribed behavior, then the only remaining
question
> is "what's excessive spotting of other guys?".
>
> My response would be, "Who cares?". Why discourage spotting at all? The
more
> you spot, the more you drain resource that could be producing Q's for your
own
> station. If you overdo it, the packet bandwidth starts to backlog. It's
a
> self-limiting behavior, both ways.
>
> Let's talk about something else.
>
> Jim Jarvis, N2EA
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
>
> Tom,
>
> My experience was exactly the opposite -- I had a lot of DX stations (I
> stopped counting at 30) ask me to put them on the cluster. I had 2 or 3
> that seemed perturbed when I declined -- one S5 station called me a, hmmm,
> compared me to a portion of the human anatomy that rarely see much
sunshine
> (and maybe I am sometimes, aren't we all, but that still does not strike
me
> as an appropriate transmission during the contest!).
>
> Personally, I found NS3T's statistics interesting but inconclusive. Since
> we don't know who actually generated the spots, proving self-spotting
> without further details would be difficult. Be so as it may, while I
think
> a rule clarification regarding soliciting for or self-spotting may be
worth
> considering for most contests, I don't know what more can be done.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "There's No Crying in Baseball!"
> -- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Osborne <w7why@harborside.com>
> Reply-To: w7why@harborside.com
> Organization: Amateur Radio W7WHY
> To: CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
>
> Dave Tucker wrote:
> >
> > I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX
> >whenever I was in S&P mode.
>
> Hi Dave
>
> Did you ask these stations if they wanted to be spotted?? I've
> read posts where lots of DX stations don't want to be spotted
> during a contest. Slows the rate down considerably. Maybe we
> can have a new category MSBASDAC--Most Spots By A Station During
> A Contest.
> Tom W7WHY
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> From: "Kele YT3T" <yt3t@absolutok.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
>
> Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
> U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> For an average YU ham, you are ALL very wealthy, and from our point of
view,
> the sport of contesting is "money talks' indeed. To let you get an idea,
an
> average YU ham has to spend his whole 2-year income to be able to set a
> station consisting of: one modern transceiver, one kilowatt amplifier, one
> rotor, one modest tower, one tribander and minimum of required cables and
> wires. I did NOT say 2-year savings, but 2-year salaries. And just a few
> months more to get a modest computer.
>
> I do not think that A61AJ have spent his 2+year income to set his station,
> just as many of you who maintain super stations.
>
> So, the real money consumption in contesting activities happens in my
> neighbourhood, and I am desperate, since they all expect me to run this
> race. Oh well, I hope some of you will print your QSL cards at my
printshop
> :-)
>
> 73
> Kele
> YT3T, YU1AO
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> From: "David Robbins" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
> To: <yccc@yccc.org>, "reflector cq-contest" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] station availability
>
> My station is available for most of the spring/summer contests. I am
> booked for WPX CW, NE QSO Party, CQ-M, and maybe IARU. If you are
> interested in trying out any of the other summer contests please contact
> me directly. This is a chance to try out big antennas, different radios
> and amps, bring friends and do a multi-op, etc.
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> From: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
>
> At 08:00 PM 4/13/02 +0200, Kele YT3T wrote:
> >Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
> >U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> I have been searching in vain for the press release that started all this
> -- The WRTC web site does not have press release #18. Could it possibly
be
> a hoax? If not, could someone either send me the text directly or point
me
> to a URL?
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> From: Hal Offutt <japancorporateresearch@compuserve.com>
> To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Upcoming Contests for Mobiles
>
> Hi,
>
> Most of you probably read the great article by Jim K8MR on mobile
> contesting in the March/April 2002 issue of NCJ.
>
> Jim pointed out the similarity between the mobile category in state QSO
> parties and the WRTC: operators in both events compete from very similar
> stations and under very similar conditions. He explained the great fun
and
> challenge of mobile contesting: laying out a route before the contest,
> operating from a vehicle while enjoying the countryside scenery, good
> pileups and rates, and real competition. He also noted how much fun it
can
> be for non-mobile stations to follow the mobiles around and work them in
> each new county they enter.
>
> Mobile contesting has become increasingly popular during the past few
> years. I think this is mainly due to the involvement of contest clubs in
> the resurrection of the FQP, the OQP, the GAQP and the MQP and their
> success in getting a lot of first class ops out on the roads. Another
> enabling factor is the availability of so many compact 12V HF rigs at
> reasonable prices. More and more state QSO parties now have achieved what
> I think is the minimum number of active mobiles (six to eight) necessary
to
> make an interesting event for all participants. I expect to see even more
> mobiles out there in the future as people discover just how much fun this
> form of contesting is.
>
> Four of the best events for mobile contesting are coming up over the next
> three weeks. If Jim's article stimulated your interest with his article,
> you will have ample opportunity coming up to experience this brand of
> contesting activity, either from your home QTH or from your own vehicle.
> Brief information on these events is shown below.
>
> First, a couple of notes:
>
> 1. These events are rapidly becoming true *CONTESTS*, not simply low-key
> county hunting events. The counties are the means, not the end. Most of
> the mobile operators in the events I detail below (with one exception) are
> not especially interested in county hunting. If you do chase counties,
> though, there's no better forum.
>
> 2. Some of the top ops in the country are getting out there on the road
in
> these events. Take a look at the results from previous years and at the
> list of guys planning to operate this year and you'll see what I mean.
>
>
> 3. Although these contests are all centered in the US, activity from
> outside the US is permitted and very welcome.
>
> 4. There are pileups every time a mobile changes counties. That's around
> 160 pileups during a 12 hour contest where 8 mobiles each change counties
> 20 times. This is a great opportunity to practice your pileup-busting
> technique. How often can you be the first station into the mobile's log?
>
> 5. Plenty of cool wallpaper and plaques available.
>
>
>
> Upcoming Contests with Major Mobile Activity
>
>
> 1. Michigan QSO Party, sponsored by the Mad River Radio Club, April 20-21
>
> A 12 hour event from 1600Z to 0400Z Saturday (noon to midnight EDST).
Nine
> mobiles were active last year, with the winner making 924 contacts. SSB
> and CW but emphasis on CW. Mobiles handed out nearly 5,000 contacts in
> all. Attracts some of the top ops in the Midwest. Most MI counties get
> activated.
>
> Rules and results: http://mrrc.net
>
>
>
> 2. Florida QSO Party, sponsored by the Florida Contest Group, April
27-28
>
>
> A 20 hour event in two ten-hour time periods: Sat 1600Z to 0159Z (noon to
> 10 PM EDST) and Sun 1200Z to 2159Z (8 AM to 6 PM EDST). SSB and CW, good
> activity on both modes. 10 mobiles were active last year and there were
> 403 total log submissions. All FL counties were active. High mobile QSO
> count was 1207.
>
> Rules and results: http://www.qsl.net/fcg
>
>
>
> 3. New England QSO Party, sponsored by YCCC and several local clubs, May
> 4-5
>
> A 20 hour event in two time periods: Sat 2000Z to 0300Z (4 PM to 11 PM
> EDST) and Sun 1100Z to 2400Z (7 AM to 8 PM EDST).
> Both SSB and CW. This is the first running of a new event that brings the
> six small New England states under one QSO party umbrella. Promises to
> turn some sleepy NE state QSO parties into a real contest. 8 mobiles have
> already announced plans to be active, and the sponsors are aiming to get
> all NE counties on.
>
> Rules: http://neqp.org
>
>
>
> 4. County Hunters' Contest CW, sponsored by the Mobile Amateur Radio
> Awards Club, May 4-5
>
> A 48 hour event from 0000Z Saturday to 2400Z Sunday (8 PM Friday night to
8
> PM Sunday night EDST). CW only. No significant activity during the
night.
> Fixed stations can work each other as well as the mobiles but mobiles
> count 15 points against 1 point for fixed station contacts, so activity is
> focussed on the mobiles. This is the only event of the year where mobiles
> in different states can contact and compete with each other. 15 mobiles
> were active in 2001, with the winner's QSO total at 1905 and the high
> multiplier at 340. The overlap with the NEQP this year should make for
> even more activity.
>
>
> The Indiana QSO Party is also scheduled for Saturday, May 4 from 1300Z to
> 0500Z (9 AM to 1 AM) so you can work the NEQP, the CHC, and the INQP at
the
> same time. Info at www.qsl.net/kj9d/inqp/rules.html.
>
>
> 73 & GL,
>
> Hal W1NN
>
>
> ______________________________________
> Japan Corporate Research
> Research and Consulting Services on Japan
> www.japancorporateresearch.com
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> From: "Bob Cox" <K3EST@cqww.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB reports
>
>
> Dear Fellow Contesters,
>
> The 2001 CQ WW SSB UBN and NIL reports are now available for you at =
> http://www.cqww.com . Just find your call and click. Enter your password =
> which everyone who submitted an email log received. If you submitted =
> only a paper log your call will not appear on the list.
>
> In a few weeks we will place a list of calls + categories + clubs on the =
> cqww.com web site for you to check. An announcement will be made.
>
> The CQ WW will require the cabrillo format for submissions starting with =
> the 2002 contest. All the non-cabrillo 2001 SSB logs on the CQ WW =
> website have been converted to the carbillo format by the CQ WW =
> Committee. The cabrillo format is available with the major contest =
> logging programs.=20
>
> Although we are sure that you are familiar with the reasons why cabrillo =
> is important, here is the main reason: It allows the easy assembly of =
> all the data necessary for compiling the results by the contest sponsor. =
> Without cabrillo the CQ WW Committee must deal with many, many logging =
> formats....which takes many, now unneeded, hundreds of hours.
>
> Approximately 70 % of the logs received for the 2001 CQ WW SSB test were =
> already in the cabrillo format. This was great! Thanks.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K3EST
> CQ WW Director
>
>
>
>
>
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> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> From: "Dmitri Bagno (RW3FO)" <bagno@mai.ru>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
>
> Two nice certificates came today for EuSprint 2001 --
> thank you Paolo, Dave, Bernhard & Karel!
>
> --Dmitri (RW3FO)
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> From: "Alan Maenchen" <ad6e@inreach.com>
> To: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>, <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
>
> Thanks Dave for bringing this to light.
> Its one of the reasons I've un-subscribed to CQ-Contest
>
> If NS3T doesn't want to see all those spots he should turn it off.
>
> So far as "self spotting" goes, he should correlate the spotter to be one
of
> the operators at said spotted station. Looks like his list is simply a
list
> of frequently spotted stations .. not self spotted. However, even that may
> not "work" since an operator can legally spot a M/M station while he is
> operating somewhere else, then go work from that M/M later (or earlier).
No
> problem for non-ARRL contests.
>
> Al AD6E (also, part-time op at KX7M)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>
> To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 17:06
> Subject: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
>
>
> > Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like to
> set
> > the record
> > straight for one and all
> >
> > I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX whenever I
> was
> > in S&P
> > mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many were
dx,
> > many were
> > domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O numerous
> times
> > is in
> > no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can only
spot
> a
> > station
> > once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say, that's my
> > favorite band.
> > NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact was in
> > friendly
> > competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East and
West
> > coast
> > stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed because
I
> > didn't happen
> > to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I
> appreciated
> > the spots
> > that others posted.
> >
> > Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need this
crap
> > in our hobby.
> >
> > Dave Tucker KA6BIM
> >
> >
> >
> > Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
> >
> > "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> > contest over
> > the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
> > reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
> > disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
> > to those in charge of the WPX contest.
> >
> > I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
> > spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
> > they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
> > of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
> >
> > MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
> >
> > 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
> >
> > 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
> >
> > 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
> >
> > 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
> >
> > 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
> >
> > 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
> >
> > 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
> >
> > 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
> >
> > 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> > PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
> >
> > 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
> >
> >
> > More later.
> >
> > Jamie NS3T"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > NCCC mailing list
> > NCCC@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/nccc
> >
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> From: "Jamie Dupree" <ns3t@arrl.net>
> To: <jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
> Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: spotting statistics
>
> Jim -
>
> Thanks for your note.
>
> I should have been more clear in my original posting. I opened the
> discussion about self spotting, but then posted data on something else.
> That was probably a mistake and has resulted in a bit of tempest. :-)
>
> So here is the background that some have asked for...and I
> am making NO judgment about these spots. I simply thought
> the raw numbers of spots were interesting, that's why I posted them
> in the first place.
>
> The reason I got into this is that during the ARRL contest, someone
> spotted under my call. A quick review showed that's happening more
> than we would probably like to admit...but that is not what these
> numbers are about. These are raw numbers of what stations
> spotted another station the most - that's all.
> ---
>
> IR3P made 30 spots of FM5GU - IR3P made no other spots
> in the contest.
>
> S51QN made 28 spots of S58M - S51QN made only one
> other spot in the contest.
>
> CE4CVN made 28 spots of CB4A - CE4VCN made a total of
> 38 spots in the WPX.
>
> OK1WWJ made 21 spots of OL5T - OK1WWJ made only
> two other contest spots that weekend.
>
> RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times - RK3QWA made
> 112 spots in the WPX.
>
> N2QER spotted NY6DX 13 times - N2QER made 33 total spots.
>
> UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - UR7IJQ made only
> one other WPX contest spot.
>
> PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - PY2SBY made
> a total of 28 spots in the contest.
>
> KA6BIM spotted NR6O 10 times - as KA6BIM has pointed
> out, he made many more overall spots, a total of 436,
> making this a very small minority.
>
> KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - KC5JSO made a
> total of 19 WPX spots.
>
> So there we go. I am making no wild accusations here -
> I'm just running numbers and looking for a discussion.
> I'm not trying to discourage spotting or cast it in a negative
> light. I still plan to talk further about self spots. But that
> is later, not in the above numbers.
>
> Jamie NS3T
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> Reply-To: <w5xd@writelog.com>
> From: "W. Wright, W5XD" <w5xd@writelog.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots. who needs 'em?
>
> Am I the only person on the planet that thinks running packet in a contest
> REDUCES the enjoyment of the weekend? If the guys that are complaining at
> each other about abusing packet would all just quit using it, they might
> discover you enjoy the sense of accomplishment that comes with finding
your
> own multipliers.
>
> As a software vendor I get requests that I can paraphrase as "please
improve
> the aim of your software for shooting fish in a barrel--there were 100
fish
> in that barrel last weekend and I could have shot more than 90 of them if
> your software were better". I do attempt to "improve the aim" (should I?),
> but one the great mysteries of life is why folks don't try to go find fish
> that haven't been put the the barrel yet?
>
> Wayne, W5XD
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
> End of CQ-Contest Digest
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sun Apr 14 15:59:03 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
Message-ID: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
I hate to reinvent the wheel, don't have a lot of time to homebrew or
put together kits, and don't know much about operating so2r besides what
I have seen from a few guest operators. But I am ready to buy the stuff
needed to make a better so2r setup option on my m/m station. I am
looking to buy as much as possible, preferably including cables already
made up.
The equipment would be:
2x ft-1000mp
heil proset headset
ct or na logging software
dvp board for voice keying
aea morsemachine or other external keyer(s)
each band has its own coax coming in to the table
What I am looking for are suggestions for 2 or 3 things:
1. a headset/keyer/mic/dvp switch with cables
2. a 6 antenna to 2 radio antenna switch with band decoder for each
radio and control cables.
3. a 6 band 2 radio bandpass filter switch for between the radios and
amps, or possibly two separate switched bandpass filters with cables and
decoder.
Could one decoder run both the antenna switch and bandpass filter
switch?
What is available off the shelf to do this?
What are the pro's and con's of different models that are available, if
there are choices?
Is it better to run 1 computer or 2?? Why??
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Sun Apr 14 12:22:23 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dodgy spotting
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHAECHDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
NS3T's second cut at data clearly shows that David, WA6BIM, wasn't doing
anything wrong. (Jamie's FIRST cut at data, by the way, did NOT
say that anyone necessarily did anything untoward...he made NO
ACCUSATIONS. Some folks were sensitive.)
What we know, from Brett-VR2BG, from Jamie-NS3T, and from others on
CQDXirc, is that not all spots come from the station whose callsign
is indicated as the author. If we were to take the top 3 on Jamie's
list, I bet we'd find that at least ONE of them didn't make those spots.
This is going to be hard to administrate, and hard to monitor. The
potential for cloaked self-spotting exists, or for 'team' behavior,
where a friend cloaks--or doesn't--and spots his expedition buddy.
I am not convinced that extensive spotting actually produces a real
advantage. Serious contesters will have you on their band map, which
probably dupe-filters. Casual players may not be on packet at all.
There may be a few who chase DX, and chase spots...but they're not an
infinite supply of Q's...and duplicate spotting may only yield a very
small additional benefit.
On the down side....those spots may attract QRP stations, who will
destroy your rate, as you try to pull them out!
Simple, relaxed rules are best. Anything more can't be enforced.
Jim Jarvis, N2EA
Essex Vermont
ps: (VR2BG...you were pounding in, here in VT on 15 this morning, Brett!)
>From w6rw at earthlink.net Sun Apr 14 11:47:41 2002
From: w6rw@earthlink.net (Michael S. Mitchell, W6RW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB reports
References: <002d01c1e3af$77f06630$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <3CB9C0BC.CCB3BDCF@earthlink.net>
They used to publish it in the CQ Contest magazine before if became a
dinasour!
David Robbins wrote:
> Is there someplace were a summary of ubn statistics is published? Best,
> worst, average, type breakdowns??
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
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>From W4EF at dellroy.com Sun Apr 14 13:08:27 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Mike)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
<5.1.0.14.0.20020413144147.0532caa0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <137601c1e3e7$c2266050$6501a8c0@1800XP>
Pete,
I thought this was an April Fools joke, but apparently it
is not (its dated April 11, 2002):
http://www.wrtc2002.org/news18.htm
I don't know what all the fuss is about, 2 more good
operators competing against a bunch of other good
operators. I don't see how Ali's financial resources
will give Jeff and Phil any advantage during the
competition except that maybe he can by them
each a pair silk underwear or treat them to a pre-
competition massage to keep them relaxed
and focused?
73 de Mike, W4EF (aka Elmer Fudd)..........................
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
> At 08:00 PM 4/13/02 +0200, Kele YT3T wrote:
> >Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
> >U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> I have been searching in vain for the press release that started all this
> -- The WRTC web site does not have press release #18. Could it possibly
be
> a hoax? If not, could someone either send me the text directly or point
me
> to a URL?
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
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>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Sun Apr 14 16:44:57 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204141528140.23160-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Can't believe the whining about this team. Forget that both ops are world
class. Forget that they announced this team well in advance.
The OH's are putting on this event. It is THEIR contest. If they want to
invite novice ops from OH0 who are sons of the biggest donor... its OK
with me. They are doing all the work and coming up with all the money
required to pull it off. To publically criticize them for any of their
choices seems to me to be in very poor taste.
As for money talks.... I will put my spot up for the highest bidder.
Proceeds to benefit the event. Any talkers? eerrrr takers?
73
Bill Fisher
>From dick.green at valley.net Sun Apr 14 17:39:27 2002
From: dick.green@valley.net (Dick Green)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy (long)
In-Reply-To: <F114eX2GOC9GBDYnV7j000166f5@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICELFCHAA.dick.green@valley.net>
During the past couple of years, I've been reluctant to comment on
electronic QSL issues because I was working on the LOTW design. I felt that
it would be inappropriate to say anything until the design and project had
been approved by the ARRL Board and announced to the membership. Also, I'm
not a League employee or spokesperson, and didn't want anyone to think I was
stating ARRL policy.
But now that LOTW has been announced and my part of the project is over, I
think it's OK for me to comment on some of the issues that have been raised
as a result of eQSL's change of policy. Please bear in mind that I'm
speaking for me, not ARRL, and that the LOTW specifications are subject to
change.
1. I resent the unfounded accusation that the "QSL technologists" somehow
forced a policy change on DXCC. Nothing of the sort happened. We could
easily have designed LOTW to allow browsing of unsolicited QSLs without
compromising security (our main concern), but were specifically instructed
by DXCC not to do so. LOTW does not permit users to examine unconfirmed QSLs
for the same reason DXCC has had a long-standing policy of discouraging
DXpeditioners from posting all QSO data from their logs on the Internet.
Regardless of any loopholes in the DXCC rules, it's never been right for
WC1M to get a card that was really intended for WY1M, or for WC1M to get a
20M CW confirmation when he incorrectly logged the QSO on 10M a day later.
I'm surprised that a contester wouldn't understand this -- after all, you
don't get credit when you log a contest QSO incorrectly. I suppose another
reason for discouraging the posting of full logs is that it would encourage
people in pileups to call and call, regardless of whether they can hear the
DX or not, in the hope that they will be worked and can get the QSO data
from an online log. Speaking as an Honor Roll and 5BDXCC DXer, I welcome any
DXCC policies that discourage poor operating practice (which, to me,
includes failing to accurately log a contact.)
2. Another completely unfounded accusation is that ARRL forced eQSL to
change its policy by dangling the prospect of DXCC acceptance. eQSL's claim
that the policy change takes them a step closer to acceptance for DXCC
credit is probably a figment of their imagination. They may perceive that
the big problem was browsing of unconfirmed QSLs (which DXCC certainly
frowns on), but as others have stated, the real problem with eQSL is its
lack of data security (see below.) There was no way for us to design LOTW to
be compatible because eQSL doesn't meet even minimal security standards
required to protect the integrity of the DXCC program. While it's
theoretically possible for third parties to securely collect QSO data
according to the LOTW specification, I recommended that ARRL develop its own
version of the system because over the long haul DXCC can't rely exclusively
on the viability of outside vendors. Even if outside vendors are used to
securely collect QSO data, ARRL cannot rely on any external entity to issue
credentials for using LOTW. That function completely controls the integrity
of LOTW and DXCC, which is the sole responsibility of ARRL (see
authentication, #9, below.)
3. It's been said that "The requirement to upload electronic logs in order
to receive QSLs will filter out thousands of potential users." This is an
extreme and baseless claim. First of all, it's not all that hard. You don't
have to submit your entire log -- you can extract and submit whatever QSOs
you want to confirm, although most participants will probably find it easier
just to upload the latest additions to their log. In either case, ARRL plans
to work with log program authors to ensure that this process is as simple
and automated as possible. A stand-alone program for manually entering QSOs
will be provided for those who do not use logging software. If you want a
confirmation, all you have to do is enter the data. It's hard to believe
that thousands will reject LOTW because of this simple requirement.
4. There's something funny about the demand that LOTW allow users to view
and print unsolicited QSLs without uploading matching log data. Does this
mean it's OK to completely ignore the confirmation request? Presumably, the
sender wants a response, but you don't have to give one. You can go merrily
about getting your card or DXCC without giving anyone your card, state or
county. That doesn't seem very friendly. Yes, you can do the same with paper
cards, but how many people hang unsolicited cards on the wall or submit them
to DXCC without having the courtesy to respond? Probably not very many. I
certainly don't (I'd feel guilty!) If most people do in fact respond, then
they have to do some work -- e.g., write out a card. Why is that any
different from uploading a log entry to LOTW or using the stand-alone
program to enter the QSO data? Are the proponents really arguing for the
right to print an unsolicited QSL or use it for awards credit without
providing a response? Will thousands of selfish potential users hate LOTW
for this?
5. But it's not really about the effort of uploading logs -- the real
argument here is that you shouldn't be required to log a contact in order to
receive a confirmation. This argument says you should be able to get a card
without giving your version of the contact information, or that it's OK to
simply echo back the information on the unsolicited QSL. As I said before, I
believe it's poor operating practice not to log a contact, and I believe
it's even worse practice to confirm the data on an unsolicited QSL unless it
matches a log entry (otherwise, in my book, it's NIL.) What if the sender is
mistaken about the time, date, mode or band? How meaningful is the card when
both stations haven't independently verified the data? Pretty pictures, I
guess. Then why not just exchange card images via e-mail or post them on a
website? There's no need to fill in the QSO data because it doesn't mean
anything. Given the it's poor quality, the data certainly should not be used
for awards credit, and then you don't need a central electronic QSL facility
at all.
6. Unlike eQSL, LOTW's primary purpose is not to produce QSL card images for
confirmed contacts. The goal for LOTW is to enhance DXCC and other award
programs, where the QSO information is supremely meaningful. As such, the
requirements of the DXCC program dictate much of the design. LOTW is
intended to speed up, simplify and reduce the cost of the awards
confirmation process for applicants and HQ, while maintaining or improving
the integrity of DXCC data. Rather than filtering out thousands of potential
users, the simplicity of uploading logs to LOTW for awards credit will
likely attract many amateurs who have avoided the awards program because of
the hassle, high cost and lengthy delays to obtain paper QSL cards.
Hopefully this, and the potential benefit of being able to obtain QSL images
from the same uploaded log data, will greatly outweigh the requirement to
upload logs and the restriction on viewing unconfirmed or unsolicited QSLs.
7. From the beginning, LOTW was designed to be a confirmation system. In
other words, both stations submit QSO data and LOTW automatically matches
them to obtain confirmations. It's analogous to what a QSL manager does,
except that confirmations are automatically routed to DXCC for pending
awards credit. Automatic confirmation is one of the big differences between
LOTW and the original eQSL design, and perhaps one reason why eQSL changed
their policy. Until the change, eQSL functioned more like an electronic
clearinghouse - a central repository of QSO data that facilitated manual
confirmation by users. LOTW's automatic confirmation means that you don't
have to decide, on a QSO-by-QSO basis, which contacts to confirm. You don't
have to pick through the incoming QSO data to determine which QSOs are
needed for credit and you don't have to do anything to submit them to DXCC.
Just upload your log and the rest is automatic.
8. Another crucial, and much more important, difference between LOTW and
eQSL is security of the data. Long before I entered the picture, ARRL had
been considering various designs for electronic QSLs. One of their biggest
concerns was the potential for modification of the QSO data. For example, I
receive an electronic QSL from 5A1A for 20M SSB, make a copy and change the
data to 10M CW so the confirmation will count for my 10M DXCC award. This is
trivially easy to do with computer data unless certain security precautions
are taken. I was one of several amateurs who suggested to ARRL that digital
signatures using public key cryptography could solve this and other security
problems. Digitally signed QSO data can't be altered without detection and
we can be positive that the signature came from a specific digital ID. To my
knowledge, no other method provides these safeguards. It may be argued that
this is stronger than the security of paper QSLs, but what's wrong with
that? Just because the old system wasn't secure, it doesn't mean the new one
shouldn't be. The extra security isn't necessary for exchanging pretty
postcards, but it sure enhances the integrity of the awards program.
9. A major problem for any security system, whether it be based on digital
IDs or passwords, is authentication. This is the process of determining the
identity of the person requesting the digital ID or password and safely
distributing the ID or password to that person. In the case of amateur
radio, the question is not so much identity per se, but callsign ownership.
The key requirement is that only the owner of a particular callsign, or a
QSL manager authorized by the owner, can digitally sign QSO data for that
callsign. But when some random online user claims to own a callsign, how do
we know he's telling the truth? It's a very difficult problem to solve, and
there are many tradeoffs. By far, this part of the LOTW design took the most
time and effort to work out. Almost half of the 83-page specification is
devoted to discussing authentication and related topics. Nine different
approaches were analyzed in great detail, including possible attack
scenarios and consequences. Using ARRL membership and e-mail addresses for
authentication, as suggested on this reflector, ranked among the weakest
methods (i.e., easy to cheat.)
10. Why so much security? Is it really necessary to use such advanced
methods to protect data that, in the final analysis, is important only to
hobbyists? Well, let's all remember the uproar that occurred when certain
DXpeditioners were found to have lied about the locations of some rare
operations (I can think of two famous cases.) One of the perpetrators was
also suspected of denying contacts to people he didn't like. Over the years,
the DXCC desk has intercepted plenty of altered cards and other attempts to
cheat the system. While some participants just say, "they're only cheating
themselves", others get pretty annoyed. Some feel quite diminished by the
thought of a cheater getting an Honor Roll plaque when they're still working
for it after 20 years and $1,000 in postage. There are others who, right or
wrong, aggressively protect their position in the Honor Roll list and would
be very vocal if "beaten" by a cheater. Although some may not take DXCC
seriously, there are many participants who take it very seriously, spend a
lot of money chasing awards, and care deeply about the integrity of the
program. I don't understand why anyone would cheat, but out of millions of
hams worldwide we're going to get quite a few who will.
11. There's a lot more to it than simple cheating -- there's also the
potential for malicious persons to undermine the integrity of the system by
stuffing it with lots of false data. A partial honor system works for paper
QSLs from non-rare entities because it's a lot of work to promulgate fake
cards on a big scale. Paper forgeries are likely to affect a small number of
people, or only the perpetrator. But computer fraud can be much more
damaging than paper fraud because it's easy to quickly duplicate the fraud
dozens, hundreds or thousands of times over. For example, without security I
could submit bogus P5 confirmations for hundreds of random callsigns in the
callbook. How does the computer know I'm not the real P5? For that matter, I
could submit bogus confirmations from any rare callsign. OK, let's say ARRL
doesn't allow electronic QSLs from rare entities unless mailed in on a
floppy disk with paper proof (sort of a pain for the DX station.) Then I'll
just flood the system with thousands of fake DL and OK confirmations. No one
will know who has a legitimate DL or OK and who doesn't. Don't care if DL or
OK cards are legit? How about the semi-rare ones that DXCC doesn't check?
Should we add more work for the DX and DXCC by requiring a floppy and paper
proof for those QSOs, too? What happens if someone hacks the ARRL server and
changes the QSO data for hundreds of users? What if a disgruntled ARRL
employee alters thousands of incoming QSL records just to get back at the
boss? How can we know whether any given QSO record was altered after it left
the sender's computer? Without good answers to these and many other
questions (or, worse, if a breach occurs), the LOTW system and the DXCC
program will be perceived to lack integrity. Once that horse gets out of the
barn, it'll be too late to put it back in.
12. One of the truisms in system design is that security and convenience
have an inverse relationship: the harder it is to breach a system, the less
convenient it will be to use (there can be tradeoffs with privacy, too --
e.g., are you prepared to let the government keep a digital copy of your
fingerprints in their database?) Much of the design work for LOTW involved
vigorous debates over this tradeoff. Everyone wanted the system to be
secure, but everyone also wanted it to be easy to use. KR1G and I were hired
to be the security experts, so naturally we advocated for as strong a system
as possible. ARRL staffers insisted on integrity of the system, but pushed
very hard to make it easy to get started and easy to use. I can assure you
that at all times the needs of LOTW's customers were paramount in everyone's
mind. In the end, it was hard for us to escape one piece of logic: you can
start out with strong security and, if it's too inconvenient, relax the
rules later on. But you can't do it the other way around.
13. Although automated software will not be provided for amateur-to-amateur
QSLing, the system design allows it. In theory, you can extract QSO data,
digitally sign it, send the signed QSO data to another station (for whom it
was unsolicited), get a confirming digitally signed QSO record in return,
then e-mail both records to LOTW for confirmation and awards credit for both
stations (or the station getting the unsolicited QSO data can send it in
along with his signed matching QSO data.) It doesn't matter who actually
e-mails the QSO data to LOTW -- it only matters that there are matching
records, each digitally signed by one of the stations. That said, I don't
know why anyone would go through the trouble. It's much easier just to
upload your log and forget about it. Besides, what DXpedition would want to
receive 50,000 e-mails before they even leave the island? Or have to send
50,000 e-mails back? The point is this: application design should be
appropriate for the medium that will be used. It is often the case that
mirroring a bricks-and-mortar or snail-mail design is not the best approach
for the Internet.
14. Someone wondered whether contest logs submitted to ARRL could
automatically get into LOTW. The implementation team is responsible for
selecting the LOTW format and I don't know what they settled on. My
understanding is that Cabrillo won't be adequate for all the QSO data we
might want to submit. Also, each LOTW record has to be digitally signed,
which is not part of the Cabrillo standard. The original spec for LOTW
records didn't have a field for a contest exchange, but I don't know what
the final spec will be. My conclusion is that it's likely you will have to
do two e-mail submissions: one in Cabrillo for the contest sponsor and one
in LOTW format for DXCC. As long as logging programs support the LOTW format
(as is hoped), it won't be a huge hardship to do two e-mails, and maybe the
logging programs will make this transparent to the user. It's entirely
possible that the two formats will merge down the road so that only one
submission will be required.
15. I plan to use LOTW for two things: 1) to get awards credit (faster
turnaround time, zero postage cost and no stolen cards/greenstamps/IRCs),
and 2) to ease the burden of responding to thousands of requests for contest
QSLs. I'll use mail or the buro to request a card for any new entity that I
work or from DXpeditions that offer interesting cards. But I'll get DXCC
credit right away through LOTW and I won't clog up the buro with new
band/mode requests or preemptive contest QSLs. My hope is that most contest
stations will stop preemptive QSLing and use LOTW instead. If paper QSLs are
requested only by those who really want them, or those who don't have access
to LOTW, then the burden on the buro, QSL managers and contest operators
should be greatly reduced.
I hope this too-lengthy e-mail sheds some light on the subject. Given that
full details about LOTW won't be released until the system becomes
available, it's understandable that there are some misimpressions about it.
But I would hope that in the future people would refrain from making
statements about the actions and motives of others without first
ascertaining the facts.
73, Dick WC1M
>From artinian at siol.net Sun Apr 14 21:41:12 2002
From: artinian@siol.net (Marijan Miletic, S56A)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PACKET AND SPOTTING
References: <02b401c1e257$87f81860$5a2afea9@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <018801c1e3f4$b7ae66b0$0100a8c0@S56A>
The pain is even greater in Internet addicts :-)
Stick with CW and HF radio!
73 de Mario, S56A, N1YU slowly packing for KH1
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Neiger" <n6tj@sbcglobal.net>
To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:23 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PACKET AND SPOTTING
> I read with great amusement of all the foibles the packet-eers have thrust
> upon themselves with accusations of "self spotting", etc etc, ad nauseum.
>
> Be careful of what you ask for. You just might get it.
>
>
> Jim Neiger
> N6TJ
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>From jjreisert at alum.mit.edu Sun Apr 14 19:52:44 2002
From: jjreisert@alum.mit.edu (Jim Reisert AD1C)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team U.A.E.
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020414185055.01590c98@mail.attbi.com>
This didn't make it to the CQ-Contest reflector, so here it is.
73 - Jim AD1C
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES TEAM (A61AJ) INVITED TO WRTC 2002
As part of its original plan for the WRTC 2002 event, the WRTC2002
organizing committee reserved the right to select one team with special
characteristics, while maintaining the high quality operator criteria
established as a hallmark for the WRTC 2002 games.
With this objective in mind, at its meeting on April 8, 2002, the committee
decided to invite a team from the United Arab Emirates (A61AJ) to be the
representative of the contesting community in the Middle East.
The teams operating from A61AJ have achieved superb results over the past
few years and this action seeks to recognize this fact. The inclusion of
this special team is thus viewed as a positive addition to the games.
Team UAE will be led by Ali Al-Futtaim, A61AJ, who has been the driving
force behind the development of what is one of the premier contest
superstations in the Middle East and Asia. In the spirit of the games, a
team has been selected that is representative of the current A61AJ
operating roster. While his team members are U.S. nationals, they also
represent the A61AJ team as it now stands in the contesting landscape.
Accordingly, we are delighted to welcome Ali Al-Futtaim, A61AJ, and his
operating team of Jeff Briggs, K1ZM, and Phil Goetz, N6ZZ, to the games as
the WRTC 2002 special team selection.
WRTC2002 Organizing Committee
--
Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863
USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
>From VE3ZT at rac.ca Sun Apr 14 21:06:38 2002
From: VE3ZT@rac.ca (Paul-VE3ZT)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots. who needs 'em?
In-Reply-To: <000d01c1e34c$870dc210$6400000a@W5XD>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020414200109.00a6bc50@pop6.sympatico.ca>
Hi Wayne,
I thought there was something wrong with me until I read your post. At
least there are two of us who can't be bothered with that packet stuff.
Getting the beam pointed to within 20 or 30 degrees of Europe is high-tech
enough for me.
cu in the next one,
Paul, VE3ZT
________________
At 08:37 PM 13/04/2002, W. Wright, W5XD, you said...
>Am I the only person on the planet that thinks running packet in a contest
>REDUCES the enjoyment of the weekend? If the guys that are complaining at
>each other about abusing packet would all just quit using it, they might
>discover you enjoy the sense of accomplishment that comes with finding your
>own multipliers.
>
>As a software vendor I get requests that I can paraphrase as "please improve
>the aim of your software for shooting fish in a barrel--there were 100 fish
>in that barrel last weekend and I could have shot more than 90 of them if
>your software were better". I do attempt to "improve the aim" (should I?),
>but one the great mysteries of life is why folks don't try to go find fish
>that haven't been put the the barrel yet?
>
>Wayne, W5XD
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>From jjreisert at alum.mit.edu Sun Apr 14 21:17:16 2002
From: jjreisert@alum.mit.edu (Jim Reisert AD1C)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dodgy spotting
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHAECHDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020414201339.00b3cd98@mail.attbi.com>
At 11:22 AM 4/14/2002 -0400, jljarvis wrote:
>What we know, from Brett-VR2BG, from Jamie-NS3T, and from others on
>CQDXirc, is that not all spots come from the station whose callsign
>is indicated as the author.
Exactly! Here is a spot made during CQ WPX SSB:
AD1C 14215.1 OT2A says he is running 10 kW!! 0706 31 Mar 2002
The only reason I knew about this was I got an E-mail from one of the
operators denying the 10KW charge. But I never made the spot! I wasn't
even in the contest, except to give the prefix to a few friends. Second,
0706z is 2:06 a.m. local time and I was sound asleep.
73 - Jim AD1C
--
Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863
USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
>From kr1g at hotmail.com Mon Apr 15 02:40:57 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
Message-ID: <F1065HfqR77bieLYCT400005f1c@hotmail.com>
I agree with Bill 100% - its the OH's event. I can't even imagine the amount
of work they're doing, but I'm grateful even though i can't be there.
Its their contest, its their show - let them do what they see fit.
They can invite George Bush as an op, Yassar Arafat as the master of
ceremonies, run a seance in conjunction with the event trying to contact
great silent key contesters, or even invite relatively inexperienced ops and
give them stacks and amps for comic relief. I won't complain.
Bill, I won't bid on your spot - I'd only embarrass myself!
Well, I haven't read the whining - i don't *like* whining. Even though I'm
whining against whining myself.
Lets leave the OHs alone and let them do the fantastic good I'm sure they
will,
73
Ted KR1G
>From: "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com>
>To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
>
>
>Can't believe the whining about this team. Forget that both ops are world
>class. Forget that they announced this team well in advance.
>
>The OH's are putting on this event. It is THEIR contest. If they want to
>invite novice ops from OH0 who are sons of the biggest donor... its OK
>with me. They are doing all the work and coming up with all the money
>required to pull it off. To publically criticize them for any of their
>choices seems to me to be in very poor taste.
>
>As for money talks.... I will put my spot up for the highest bidder.
>Proceeds to benefit the event. Any talkers? eerrrr takers?
>
>73
>
>Bill Fisher
>
>
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>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Sun Apr 14 19:56:32 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204141528140.23160-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <014601c1e420$c47b8400$c46f7e42@sbcglobal.net>
The fact of the matter is: hosting a successful WRTC today is big business.
And certainly not-for-profit. Nor, apparently, in some circles, for credit
or gratitude, either.
Of course, money talks. I seem to recall the initial Finnish budget was of
the order of $200,000, with one-half coming from a major commercial sponsor.
Not exactly pocket change for anyone. Just where do all the purists think
this money is coming from?
Perhaps any future WRTC's will cost even more. What's the chance of any of
these future events happening if potential host nations become so disgusted
with what the Finn's experienced, that they wouldn't touch it with a 10
meter dipole?
I have known quite a few of the OH contesters, well, for over 30 years. A
MORE SERIOUS group of contesters you will not find.
We must (1) give them credit for even taking on the challenge of hosting
WRTC2002 (especially now in the post 9/11 era), and (2) assume they know
what they are doing.
If accepting "help" from any outside source, they believe to be the BEST way
to do it, why can't we simply stand back, and shut-up. Unless we can offer
some concrete assistance to them. More criticism, I'm sure, is what they
don't need.
If there ever is another WRTC, perhaps the financial help could come from
the formal formation of support organizations (kind of like the Political
Action Comittees in the USA), where EACH TWO MAN TEAM acquires sponsors, and
fund raising efforts, and the like, with 100% of the proceeds going to the
host WRTC Committee?
Jim Neiger
N6TJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 12:44 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
>
> Can't believe the whining about this team. Forget that both ops are world
> class. Forget that they announced this team well in advance.
>
> The OH's are putting on this event. It is THEIR contest. If they want to
> invite novice ops from OH0 who are sons of the biggest donor... its OK
> with me. They are doing all the work and coming up with all the money
> required to pull it off. To publically criticize them for any of their
> choices seems to me to be in very poor taste.
>
> As for money talks.... I will put my spot up for the highest bidder.
> Proceeds to benefit the event. Any talkers? eerrrr takers?
>
> 73
>
> Bill Fisher
>
>
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>From k3pp at ptd.net Sun Apr 14 23:51:36 2002
From: k3pp@ptd.net (Glenn O'Donnell, K3PP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION>
Hi Dave,
I have the Top Ten DX Doubler SO2R controller, the Top Ten Band Decoders,
and a WX0B Six-Pak and it is a VY FB arrangement. A TTD decoder (with the
source-driver option) can drive both the Six-Pak and a I.C.E. multi-band
bandpass filter. The key is, some devices switch to ground (the filter) and
others switch to +12v (the Six-Pak). For the SO2R controller, there is also
the WX0B SO2R Master. The DXD is less expensive and I prefer the layout
and physical packaging, but both are great units.
With one computer, you can control everything from WriteLog, CT, or NA (and
I suspect TR, although I've never tried it). One computer consumes less
real estate, requires only one human interface, and is less trouble. I
can't say enough good things about this arrangement. All I need is another
amp, another bandpass filter, and time to use it all (and a lot of practice
to get the most out of it!), and I'll be in tip-top shape.
VY 73 de Glenn K3PP
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Robbins" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
To: "reflector cq-contest" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 10:59 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> I hate to reinvent the wheel, don't have a lot of time to homebrew or
> put together kits, and don't know much about operating so2r besides what
> I have seen from a few guest operators. But I am ready to buy the stuff
> needed to make a better so2r setup option on my m/m station. I am
> looking to buy as much as possible, preferably including cables already
> made up.
>
> The equipment would be:
> 2x ft-1000mp
> heil proset headset
> ct or na logging software
> dvp board for voice keying
> aea morsemachine or other external keyer(s)
> each band has its own coax coming in to the table
>
> What I am looking for are suggestions for 2 or 3 things:
> 1. a headset/keyer/mic/dvp switch with cables
> 2. a 6 antenna to 2 radio antenna switch with band decoder for each
> radio and control cables.
> 3. a 6 band 2 radio bandpass filter switch for between the radios and
> amps, or possibly two separate switched bandpass filters with cables and
> decoder.
>
> Could one decoder run both the antenna switch and bandpass filter
> switch?
>
> What is available off the shelf to do this?
>
> What are the pro's and con's of different models that are available, if
> there are choices?
>
> Is it better to run 1 computer or 2?? Why??
>
>
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>
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>From tavan at tibco.com Sun Apr 14 22:02:26 2002
From: tavan@tibco.com (Rick Tavan)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <3CBA50D2.F6236E1A@tibco.com>
I'm also an SO2R beginner. I took it up mainly so I could write upbeat,
encouraging columns about the experience for the NCCC newsletter. So if you get
responses from the Great Ones, listen to them more carefully. FWIW, here's what
I got and am pretty happy with (in order of your questions):
1. Top Ten Devices DX Doubler - well thought out, simple to use. Just plug in
the rigs, the
paddel, an (optional) external keyer, the computer, the phones and the mic.
Includes an optional cable for the 1000MP which is OK although the
connectors
and stiff cables stick out awkwardly from the radio. Good review of this
box in NCJ
recently by N0AX I believe.
Note that if you want to put an external DVK between the mic and the DXD
you will
need to make up a cable with a male mic connector. Rare. I'm doing it this
way but some of
the logging programs allegedly do well with sound cards in the computer and
that would
be a simpler hook-up.
2. WX0B Array Solutions Six Pack two radio antenna switch does exactly what you
want.
3. I got a pair of Dunestar 600 BPFs. One is driven by a Top Ten Band Decoder
for the 1000MP. (You will need one decoder for each MP). My second radio is a
930 so I have to use a manual switch for its filter. I got the decoder with two
sets of outputs so I can, in theory, drive the MP half of the Six Pack
automatically. Haven't hooked that up yet but I'm confident it can be made to
work. You have to build up a little diode matrix if any one feedline serves
more than one band. If you have multiple antennas for some bands, you may
prefer not to automate antenna switching.
You absolutely, positively want to use a single computer to drive this stuff
for SO2R. Don't even think about two. Programs like trlog understand you are
SO2R and do a lot of the headstanding for you. The DX Doubler has a cable to
the (single) computer that eliminates lots of custom cabling in and out of your
computer's parallel port. You don't want to worry about two keyboards and don't
have to with this setup. OTOH, if you want to do M/S you will have to have two
computers and network them. I've seen this done but never set it up myself.
The main alternative to all this stuff seems to be the Array Solutions SO2R
Master. I found several excellent contesters using each box. SO2R Master has
most of the connections on a box with no controls so it can be out of the way
behind the rigs. But the switch box takes up desk space. But it has nice
switches. The DX Doubler fits nicely under my rigs which sit on a shelf
supported by 2x4's. If you keep your rigs at table level, this may be a
problem. I chose DX Doubler because I understood the switch labels and N6RO
recommended it. But K5RC recommended SO2R Master. Study the ergonomics and pick
one.
If you have a second-radio antenna that is far away from the primary radio,
consider skipping the BPFs. Mine are quite unnecessary when I have Rig 1 on the
tribander and Rig 2 on the vertical 300' away. OTOH, when Rig 2 is on the 40m
rotary dipole on the same boom as the tribander, the BPFs are the only thing
that keeps the 20m receiver from turning to toast.
I have one RFI problem with this setup - the TTD band decoder gets funny when I
transmit on 10m so I have to switch in the 10m filter manually. Even with the
DXD you end up with quite a rat's nest of cables so I advise you to be more
careful with cable construction, grounding and connections.
It has been much more fun integrating all this stuff than actually operating
SO2R. That's hard! ;-)
73,
Rick N6XI
David Robbins wrote:
> I hate to reinvent the wheel, don't have a lot of time to homebrew or
> put together kits, and don't know much about operating so2r besides what
> I have seen from a few guest operators. But I am ready to buy the stuff
> needed to make a better so2r setup option on my m/m station. I am
> looking to buy as much as possible, preferably including cables already
> made up.
>
> The equipment would be:
> 2x ft-1000mp
> heil proset headset
> ct or na logging software
> dvp board for voice keying
> aea morsemachine or other external keyer(s)
> each band has its own coax coming in to the table
>
> What I am looking for are suggestions for 2 or 3 things:
> 1. a headset/keyer/mic/dvp switch with cables
> 2. a 6 antenna to 2 radio antenna switch with band decoder for each
> radio and control cables.
> 3. a 6 band 2 radio bandpass filter switch for between the radios and
> amps, or possibly two separate switched bandpass filters with cables and
> decoder.
>
> Could one decoder run both the antenna switch and bandpass filter
> switch?
>
> What is available off the shelf to do this?
>
> What are the pro's and con's of different models that are available, if
> there are choices?
>
> Is it better to run 1 computer or 2?? Why??
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
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3165 Porter Drive
Palo Alto, CA 94304-1213
tavan@tibco.com
n6xi@arrl.net
650-846-5214 Office
408-896-0476 Cell
>From ha5pp at yahoo.com Mon Apr 15 01:28:19 2002
From: ha5pp@yahoo.com (Zoltan Szoke)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 2002 Teams
Message-ID: <20020415072819.23678.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi Contesters,
Money talks...(??) (What does it mean?)
Only one JA-Team (In Slovenia: 3!!).
No Team-Oceania.
??
I think that the Finns (organizers) must find out
something. They want (simply) more teams for a bigger
competition. I believe in Finn's GOOD intent. (We
don't see the background, there is probably no
"enough" teams...)
Good luck to Organizers!
73
Zoli
HA5PP
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>From mitja.gregoric at hit.si Mon Apr 15 12:01:29 2002
From: mitja.gregoric@hit.si (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Mitja_Gregori=E8?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Lost LOG
Message-ID: <000901c1e45c$224fe4f0$4a284dc1@ng.hit.si>
Because of strange circumstances my WPX SSB log is lost for good.Things look
as far as im concerned desperate here.My mistake to trust to my computer and
to not make a copy.
Mike - S57LWG
E-mail: mitja.gregoric@hit.si
http://qsl.net/s57lwg
>From swca at swbell.net Mon Apr 15 08:13:38 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION>
Message-ID: <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
> With one computer, you can control everything from WriteLog, CT, or NA
(and
> I suspect TR, although I've never tried it).
TRlog can do all that. And more.
Mark, N5OT
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 15 07:33:40 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204151333.g3FDXeY19867@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
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NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
WX5S(@W6YX) 4553 1078 48 10,743,348 NCCC
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
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NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
NT6K 2254 845 48 4,173,455 NCCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
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NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
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N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
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KD2HE 176 152 63,080
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KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
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N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
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KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
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NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
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W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
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KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
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K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
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N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
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NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
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KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
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AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
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N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
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AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
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N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
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WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
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KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
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K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
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W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 15 07:39:10 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
15Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204151339.g3FDdAQ19886@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCC
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20h 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCC
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 464 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCC
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From s51ta at volja.net Mon Apr 15 16:37:10 2002
From: s51ta@volja.net (Tadej Mezek, S51TA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION> <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
Message-ID: <00d801c1e486$0fb14170$6c4548d9@home>
For SO2R the best software is TR (for now)-dualing CQ, but if writelog will
add some functions as they are on TR, writelog will be better i suppose.
The computers can do almost everything today so we must just wait a little
bit longer:)
I am using TR for so2r CW and writelog for SSB, because of voice keyer
symplicity...
73 Ted, s51ta
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Beckwith" <swca@swbell.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> > With one computer, you can control everything from WriteLog, CT, or NA
> (and
> > I suspect TR, although I've never tried it).
>
> TRlog can do all that. And more.
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
>
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 15 07:39:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204151339.g3FDdn019895@localhost.localdomain>
2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: jidx-hfcw@ne.nal.go.jp
Mail logs to:
JIDX HFCW Contest
c/o Five-Nine Magazine
PO Box 59
Kamata, Tokyo 144
Japan
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
AE0Q(@K0HM) 452 115 64,400 Grand Mesa
N0AC(@N0NI) 427 110 30 54,780
N2ED 255 96 7 29,184 FRC
K3WW 224 81 6 21,060 FRC
N6ZZ 192 82 20,910 SCCC
N9RV 161 70 3 15,190 SMC
VE7FO 120 70 9 10,780
N4GG 43 34 4 1,972 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
WN6K 238 88 21 30,008 SCCC
VE3BUC 86 47 5 4,042
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/10 LP
NT6K 127 41 5 10,414 NCCC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 15 07:40:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204151340.g3FDeQQ19906@localhost.localdomain>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCC
UA4LU 180 4 180
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
>From ns3t at arrl.net Mon Apr 15 10:58:52 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] re: dodgy spotting
Message-ID: <005501c1e485$b05924e0$5f20fccd@jvpcb01>
Your "spot" of OT2A was made thru a node in Germany.
73s Jamie NS3T
>AD1C 14215.1 OT2A says he is running 10 kW!! 0706 31 Mar 2002
>The only reason I knew about this was I got an E-mail from one of the
>operators denying the 10KW charge. But I never made the spot! I wasn't
>even in the contest, except to give the prefix to a few friends. Second,
>0706z is 2:06 a.m. local time and I was sound asleep.
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Mon Apr 15 13:24:45 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dodgy spotting
In-Reply-To: <200204142340.g3ENekAl002541@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020415120824.00d2c4a0@pop.pacific.net.hk>
N2EA added this, as well as other reasonable level-headed comments:
>I am not convinced that extensive spotting actually produces a real
>advantage.
It can be detrimental. I am often tempted to do self-spotting, but to
deliberately
mis-spot myself in hopes it reduces the mess these spots-gone-ballistic can
cause. I often am forced to abandon a run when things get messy like that.
>ps: (VR2BG...you were pounding in, here in VT on 15 this morning, Brett!)
I sensed the band was good, but so few called - even if I were serious in
JIDX HF CW this year, I'll happily work non-JAs when a JA isn't calling & even
reply to the pesky QSLs such contacts inevitably produce. JIDX is quickly
becoming no fun due to lack of activity & I'm sorry to say I spent most of the
weekend up on the roof enjoying the sun as a result.
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Mon Apr 15 17:58:59 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dodgy spotting
In-Reply-To: <200204151603.g3FG3RAl016620@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020415165035.00d2edf0@pop.pacific.net.hk>
Thanks to AD1C for noticing he too is making spots he didn't.
Anybody else?
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Apr 15 14:31:33 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R methodology
Message-ID: <008701c1e4a3$63643bc0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
I like to use two computers in SO2R because I am not that good at it...
The second station has its own keyboard and I can hunt and peck bits and
pieces of the callsign into it - maybe all or part of the exchange...and
once the timiong is right for a pause on the run rig and availability on the
secon d rig I hit F4...
If you only have one keyboard you can easily be overwhelmed...of course it
is more efficient and I am certain the winners have perfected their skills
along these lines...
Me I just am bored listening to myself call CQ so I do something else while
that is going on and at the same time fatten up the score....when it gets
too maddening I just run em....taking a pause from info overload...
Don't forget it is 12 days until the Florida QSO Party!
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
73,
Jim, K4OJ
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Mon Apr 15 16:20:33 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ web site?
Message-ID: <20020415152032.E4705@cs.utexas.edu>
Anybody know what's wrong with CQ's web site?
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/
--
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Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Tue Apr 16 00:22:09 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Writelog-RSGB Jubilee contest
Message-ID: <VA.00000c13.00269c51@gw3njw>
Hi
The module is now ready to have the ribbon tied on, thanks to
Ray/G4FON with help from Wayne/W5XD. However before we do the
final packaging I would like to have a few Guinea pig beta
testers.
What you'd need to do at this stage is to load a .dll file into
the .......\Writelog\programs directory and register the dll
using regsvr32. If this sounds daunting, it's not, and even a
dummy like me can do it! The final package will be self
installing for anyone challenged in this area however.
If you'd like to help, please email me and I'll either send you
the file or tell you where to download it.
tia
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
Contest Cambria-http://www.gw7x.org
>From K4ZW at Staffnet.com Tue Apr 16 02:00:26 2002
From: K4ZW@Staffnet.com (Ken Claerbout)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
Message-ID: <006101c1e4e2$190cdde0$9d504fc6@main>
Here's what I'm using at my QTH.
1.) Single computer with Writelog
2.) W5XD SO2R box (mine is the old kit form)
3.) Sound card in PC for voice keyer
4.) Top Ten band decoders on both radios
5.) WX0B Six Pak antenna switch
6.) WX0B (W3NQN design) BPF on the second radio only (this filter is worth
the money)
I've been using this arrangement for 2 years. I'm very happy with the
way everything is working and have no plans to change the setup unless
something better comes along. Here is what I consider some of the benefits
of this arrangement.
1.) with a click of the mouse, I'm able to listen to the second radio in
both ears while the "run" radio is in transmit. Or, I can listen to TX & RX
of a single radio full time by switching out of the latch function. I could
never last 48 hours with a different radio in each ear.
2.) By hitting shift and down arrow, I can enter a call from the second
radio without interrupting the run radio. Personally, I find this much more
convenient than wrestling with two computers.
3.) The right channel audio output of the sound card is wired to the run
radio (on the right) and the left channel to the second radio. Writelog
routes the audio to which ever rig is chosen. The software provides the
interlock that keeps me from transmitting on both radios at the same time.
A big no-no for Single Op! The same applies on CW from the SO2R box.
4.) The key to maximizing the effectiveness of second radio, is the ability
to hear signals of all strengths while the run radio is blasting away.
Antenna separation is important but so is a good bandpass filter (BPF).
Choose one wisely. Incidentally, I haven't seen the need to put a BPF on my
run radio.
73
Ken K4ZW
>From k9gx at n4gn.com Tue Apr 16 07:29:02 2002
From: k9gx@n4gn.com (Mark S. Williams)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team
U.A. E.
References: <00ae01c1e27e$2ccdb540$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Message-ID: <002b01c1e510$20f43fc0$e0981ad8@iglou.com>
You know, Ali has built a world class station at A61AJ. He's invited some of
the best ops in the world to that station to maximize the effectiveness of
the hardware. He's earned a place on the "world stage" in our "game".
Why shouldn't he be part of the showcase that is the WRTC?
Who would you rather see in the Olympics? Athletes who are at the peak of
their game because they have the drive, determination and perserverence to
be the best in the world....or fat guys who eat three donuts for breakfast
every morning? (Not that I have anything against donuts, mind you...I have
yet to meet one I didn't like!)
Just a thought from K9GX who hopes to visit Helsinki this summer to watch
the WRTC performances and maybe, if I'm very lucky, find a chair at some
friendly OH shack during IARU.
73,
Mark
K9GX
>From s51ta at volja.net Tue Apr 16 09:42:09 2002
From: s51ta@volja.net (Tadej Mezek, S51TA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION> <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
<5.1.0.14.2.20020415170919.05091ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
HI!
I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is not
put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and the
audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
Are there any changes lately?
On writelog you just plug the microphone from heil or any other in SB mic
input, speaker output connect with TRX and the thing works perfectly anf it
even switch the mic off when transmit. And recording of messages is much
easier.....like k1ea dvk board.
Ted, s51ta
Otherwise I was always TR fan....maybe something can be done by Tree.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: "Tadej Mezek, S51TA" <s51ta@volja.net>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> At 03:37 PM 4/15/02 +0200, you wrote:
> >I am using TR for so2r CW and writelog for SSB, because of voice keyer
> >symplicity...
>
>
> Ted, you might want to look at the freeware package SBDVP. It integrates
> very tightly with TR and uses a SB-16 or similar sound card. The best
part
> is that all of the keystrokes of TR of TR work just as on CW - for
example,
> when running, you type in a station's callsign, dupe with the spacebar,
say
> his callsign and hit Enter. The program sends your exchange to him. You
> type in his exchange for you and hit [Enter] again, and the program sends
> the QSL message. The only thing it won't do is voice callsigns and serial
> numbers from typed input, but that is mostly an academic advantage, and
> Writelog doesn't do that anyway, does it?
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
>From jim at kc4hw.net Tue Apr 16 07:40:02 2002
From: jim@kc4hw.net (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
In-Reply-To: <006101c1e4e2$190cdde0$9d504fc6@main>
Message-ID: <200204161040.g3GAe2oh013541@smtp-server3.tampabay.rr.com>
> 1.) Single computer with Writelog
I have been using one computer with two video cards and two monitors.
Unfortunately my vision is not a good as it once was and this gives me
the opportunity to run both monitors at 800x600. This confirguration give
the ability to treat two monitors as one. The mouse will scroll back and
forth between the two. You can put alot of the misc windows on the
second monitor and reserve the main monitor for the log, bandmaps,
decode windows (rtty), etc
There are limitations on what cards can be used. On Win98SE check in
the help for Multiple Display Support and make sure your video cards are
compatible.
Jim Johnson, Melbourne, Florida
jim@kc4hw.net - http://www.kc4hw.net
DXCluster RF Connection: 144.97
DXCluster Telnet: Coming Soon
>From 00tlzivney at bsu.edu Tue Apr 16 09:44:24 2002
From: 00tlzivney@bsu.edu (Zivney, Terry L.)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NIL on 40m SSB split
Message-ID: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBA9A@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
Like many of you, I have been studying my UBN report
from the 2001 CQ WW SSB contest in order to see what
copying mistakes I had made.
My biggest surprise was that I lost 3 multipliers on
40 m ssb. Now, I could easily understand thinking I
was working one station while actually working another
in the crowded 40m CW segment, but how in the world
does this happen when working split? In each case,
I was transmitting up on the frequency requested by
the DX station calling CQ. In each case, I am sure
I heard my call on the CQ frequency. In each case,
I obviously copied a valid call on the CQ frequency,
because the three stations in question each made more
than 4,000 QSOs. And, needless to say, each of these
stations had big signals so it seems unlikely there
was a second station CQing on the same frequency and
listening on the same split, given that most of the
time the standard CQ includes "listening on this
frequency and 72**."
What can I do to improve on this problem?
Terry Zivney, N4TZ/9
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 16 07:47:56 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204161347.g3GDluV20763@localhost.localdomain>
2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: jidx-hfcw@ne.nal.go.jp
Mail logs to:
JIDX HFCW Contest
c/o Five-Nine Magazine
PO Box 59
Kamata, Tokyo 144
Japan
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
AE0Q(@K0HM) 452 115 64,400 Grand Mesa
N0AC(@N0NI) 427 110 30 54,780
N2ED 255 96 7 29,184 FRC
K3WW 224 81 6 21,060 FRC
N6ZZ 192 82 20,910 SCCC
N9RV 161 70 3 15,190 SMC
VE7FO 120 70 9 10,780
N4GG 43 34 4 1,972 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
WN6K 238 88 21 30,008 SCCC
SV1CIB 109 66 9,174
VE3BUC 86 47 4 4,042
WA6BOB 35 33 2 1,155
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/10 LP
OM5AW 466 44 10 20,504
NT6K 127 41 4 10,414 NCCC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 16 07:48:32 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204161348.g3GDmW020773@localhost.localdomain>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 16 07:51:44 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
16Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204161351.g3GDpiA20787@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
VE7SCC 2120 0 48 4,406,904 Coquitlam Amateur Ra
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
P40V 6610 1251 48 25,617,978 NCCC
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCF
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 <36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28.5 1,318,518
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20h 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35.8 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 @12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCF
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32.8 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 542 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
VE5SF 628 366 9 543,510
PA5AT 648 383 15 hr 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCF
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCF
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
YT1RA 1227 588 36 1,535,268 YU CC
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18.5 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14.4 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35.6 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30,5 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCF
YT9X(YZ1KA) 1346 629 36 1,697,042 YU CC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
K3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Tue Apr 16 14:34:18 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204161331320.30467-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Still have not seen any of the 3 plaques I (we) supposedly won in the WPX
CW and SSB contests. One is four years old now.
So, I'm curious if anyone is actually paying CQ for the plaques? If so,
where is the money going?
73
Bill, W4AN
>From n4uk at mindspring.com Tue Apr 16 21:37:11 2002
From: n4uk@mindspring.com (n4uk@mindspring.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Quartz Hill C.C New Zealand
Message-ID: <Springmail.0994.1019003831.0.22034700@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
Sorry for the bandwidth guys. Lost the e-mail address of the ZLs from
Wellington. I hope to be in Wellington on Friday. Can someone send me tel
numbers or E-mail addresses from the Quartz Hill Radio Club members?
Thanks, Ken, N4UK. SOuth of Taupo, NZ
>From k2av at contesting.com Tue Apr 16 22:03:16 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NIL on 40m SSB split
References: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBA9A@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
Message-ID: <00c101c1e5ab$a89aa540$0500a8c0@swift>
This one smells like the old
fumble-fingered-ten-thumbs-while-working-USA-SSB-stations-at-4-AM-in-t
he-morning-local-after-being-up-all-night jinx.
In your case, specifically, from across the pond,
"November Four Tango Zulu Five Nine One Four"
as he types in "N4RZ", and too bleary eyed to tell he missed the
key...
Been there, done that...
73, Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zivney, Terry L." <00tlzivney@bsu.edu>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Cc: <smc@qth.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 9:44 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NIL on 40m SSB split
> Like many of you, I have been studying my UBN report
> from the 2001 CQ WW SSB contest in order to see what
> copying mistakes I had made.
>
> My biggest surprise was that I lost 3 multipliers on
> 40 m ssb. Now, I could easily understand thinking I
> was working one station while actually working another
> in the crowded 40m CW segment, but how in the world
> does this happen when working split? In each case,
> I was transmitting up on the frequency requested by
> the DX station calling CQ. In each case, I am sure
> I heard my call on the CQ frequency. In each case,
> I obviously copied a valid call on the CQ frequency,
> because the three stations in question each made more
> than 4,000 QSOs. And, needless to say, each of these
> stations had big signals so it seems unlikely there
> was a second station CQing on the same frequency and
> listening on the same split, given that most of the
> time the standard CQ includes "listening on this
> frequency and 72**."
>
> What can I do to improve on this problem?
>
> Terry Zivney, N4TZ/9
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>From k8dx at raex.com Tue Apr 16 22:27:40 2002
From: k8dx@raex.com (Scott Detloff K8DX)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204161331320.30467-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <01d101c1e5af$1188cca0$1c1ec4d8@oemcomputer>
Hi Bill,
I know exactly what you mean. As a matter of fact I spoke with
N8BJQ, a few weeks ago about this and I offered to help handle
making and sending out past due and future plaques. He said that
he had it under control, since he was only backed up a few years!
I made the same offer to K1AR about the CQ WW plaques. His
reply was much more positive. With some teamwork, he figures
that if I could give him a hand, plaques would hit about the same time
the results are out. What a novel idea, eh?
Scott K8DX
Scott Detloff K8DX
Paris, Ohio
Visit The North Coast Contesters @ www.qsl.net/ncc
Tour K8DX @ www.qsl.net/k8dx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:34 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
>
> Still have not seen any of the 3 plaques I (we) supposedly won in the WPX
> CW and SSB contests. One is four years old now.
>
> So, I'm curious if anyone is actually paying CQ for the plaques? If so,
> where is the money going?
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
>
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>
>
>From kh6nd at lava.net Tue Apr 16 18:02:49 2002
From: kh6nd@lava.net (kh6nd@lava.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204161331320.30467-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <3CBCE5D9.1B9AEB8C@lava.net>
Bill,
You can add 9 more CQ plaques that were won, and never received, from
1997-2001 efforts at KH7R.
Six for WPX, one for CQ 160, and last but not least, two of these were
the CQ WW World M/M combined trophies from 1997 and 1998.
Anyone else care to add to this list?
Mike
KH6ND
"Bill Fisher, W4AN" wrote:
>
> Still have not seen any of the 3 plaques I (we) supposedly won in the WPX
> CW and SSB contests. One is four years old now.
>
> So, I'm curious if anyone is actually paying CQ for the plaques? If so,
> where is the money going?
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
>
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>From ua9cdc at mail.ur.ru Wed Apr 17 15:07:14 2002
From: ua9cdc@mail.ur.ru (Igor Sokolov)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION> <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
<5.1.0.14.2.20020415170919.05091ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
<00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
Message-ID: <007f01c1e5ec$9eb83740$0801a8c0@mail.ur.ru>
> I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is
not
> put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and
the
> audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
I am prepared to demonstrate you on the air that the audio that comes from
SBDVP is as good or better then that coming from the mike. I have been using
SBDVP for the last 3-4 years and noticed that my CQ attracts more callers if
sent with SBDVP were the audio can be preprocessed.
> even switch the mic off when transmit. And recording of messages is much
> easier.....like k1ea dvk board.
Recording with SBDVP is Ctl-F# then play it back by pressing that F#
Just wonder what can be easier and more intuitive?
73, Igor UA9CDC
>
>
> Ted, s51ta
>
>
> Otherwise I was always TR fan....maybe something can be done by Tree.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
> To: "Tadej Mezek, S51TA" <s51ta@volja.net>
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
>
>
> > At 03:37 PM 4/15/02 +0200, you wrote:
> > >I am using TR for so2r CW and writelog for SSB, because of voice keyer
> > >symplicity...
> >
> >
> > Ted, you might want to look at the freeware package SBDVP. It
integrates
> > very tightly with TR and uses a SB-16 or similar sound card. The best
> part
> > is that all of the keystrokes of TR of TR work just as on CW - for
> example,
> > when running, you type in a station's callsign, dupe with the spacebar,
> say
> > his callsign and hit Enter. The program sends your exchange to him. You
> > type in his exchange for you and hit [Enter] again, and the program
sends
> > the QSL message. The only thing it won't do is voice callsigns and
serial
> > numbers from typed input, but that is mostly an academic advantage, and
> > Writelog doesn't do that anyway, does it?
> >
> > 73, Pete N4ZR
> >
> > Check out the World HF
> > Contest Station Database at
> > www.pvrc.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Wed Apr 17 13:39:57 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
References: <Springmail.0994.1019003831.0.22034700@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <005a01c1e5f3$d6c23530$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
As far as UBNs were mentioned I might say that I noticed quite a few -B
calls in our ES9C M/M UBN report that were actually absolutely fine and
existing calls and had been worked by many stations - 30, 40, or even more.
There was seemingly no reason to determine them -B (no Wn or anything). I
know for sure some of them were OK QSOs as I even remember them. Like my
first QSO on 20m -
1 -B ly3bh(3) ly3by(1224)ww ly3bx(850)n ly3be(644)ww ly3bg(108) w3bh(2)
It's a well-known contester from LY and we even chatted a few words in the
beginning of the contest. He has only made a few QSOs as I suspect he worked
in some M/S team maybe...
Another example on 20m:
2183 -B f8btq(17) f8bqq(552)h f8bdq(21) f8bvq(8) hb9btq(147) py7btq(6)
and on 10m:
269 -B ea8zc(5) ea8zs(4250)ww ea8zz(12) ea8jc(7)
It is a bit irritating actually, don't know if anybody else has noticed
it...
73
Tonno
ES5TV
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Wed Apr 17 09:49:11 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you on this reflector because you like contesitng?
Message-ID: <000501c1e60e$465cc4e0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Are you a contest club member?
Guess you like contesting, huh?
Did you know there is a club competition category in the Florida QSO Party?
Well..now you do, as a matter of fact, here are the results of the 2,001
club competition for US Clubs outside of Florida:
US Clubs
CLUB SCORE ENTRANTS QTH
1 Mad River RC 231,604 5 MI/OH/IN
2 Society of Midwest Contesters 215,076 5 IL/IN/MO
3 Frankford RC 170,244 3 PA/DE
4 Western New York DX Assn 95,424 1 NY
5 Stanford Univ ARC 90,768 1 CA
6 Southern California Contest Club 69,534 2 CA
7 Univ of ID ARC 62,656 1 ID
8 Northern California Contest Club 51,656 2 CA/NV
9 Texas DX Society 44,880 1 TX
10 Carolina DX Assn 36,432 1 NC
11 Carl Hayden 27,692 2 AZ
12 Oklahoma DX Assn 21,504 1 OK
13 Heartland DX Assn 16,192 2 NE
14 Southeast Contest Club 13,700 3 GA/AL
15 Potomac Valley Radio Club 13,416 1 NC
16 Yankee Clipper Contest Club 9,506 1 MA
17 Northern Arizona DX Assn 9,400 1 AZ
18 Central Texas DX and Contest Club 5,808 1 TX
19 NC State Univ 1,924 1 NC
20 Univ of Chicago ARC 770 1 IL
21 Metro DX Club 646 1 IL
22 Motor City DX Club 108 1 MI
Here are the results from the DX clubs outside of the US
DX Clubs
CLUB SCORE ENTRANTS QTH
1 Kaunas Univ. of Technology RC 42,140 1 LY
2 RSGB 29,410 1 G
3 Top of Europe Contesters 3,950 3 SM
4 Radio Club Uruguay 1,880 1 CX
5 Lithuanian DX Group 144 1 LY
Note that the Kaunas University score is 10th among the non-FL clubs
submitting scores, and that score was from long time FQP supporter Gedas,
LY3BA - due to poor conditions he only worked 57 of the 67 counties this
past year, that's right LY - Lithuania - tope European scorer M0SDX only
missed 2 counties on CW!
....also note that sometimes only one score is being submitted by a contest
club...even if you only get on for a few hours please submit your score for
your club - this is an aspect of the FQP yet to mature - I would love to see
that happen! Note that many of the contest clubs with newer members are
using the state QSO Parties as training grounds for the "majors" - why not
make the FQP one of those opportunities? We also have School competition
and Novice/Tech categories! The Floirda COntest Group exists to promote
contesting - anything we can do to help you promote contesting - we would
love to help other contest clubs do same!
The FQP is a good contest for contesters - why do I say that?
Because the contest rules were written by, the predominance of operators
are, and results are compiled by
CONTESTERS
This year marks the fifth year of sponsorship of the FQP by the Florida
Contest Group. As a contest club we know what contesters like...and we try
and offer it up...if your having fun we're having fun!
I encourage all contesters to get on and send in a score for their club -
there are many awards available in the FQP including the club competition.
Spend a little while cruising the FQP website - read the excellent write-ups
of the contest by logchecker and two time returning WRTC 1st place team
member K1TO....this is definitely NOT our Dad's State QSO Party!
Good ops - snappy exchanges - and no rotor spinning!
Go on, go to the website - its great reading - click on your state record
and see the opportunity for you to own a state record!
Go there and study up - after all the Florida QSO Party is only 10 days
away!
We have commitments for the activation on all but 6 Florida counties with
three mobile teams yet to check in with their routes (yes, this info is on
the website, too!) I feel safe in saying that once again a sweep of the 67
Florida Counties will be possible in the FQP....
Surf on over to:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp/
If you love contests, you'll love the FQP! Would I steer you wrong? C'mon
get - on - I'll let you work me in Sweepstakes this November :-)
73,
Jim White, K4OJ
aka one of the K4FCG/M team once a year!
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Wed Apr 17 10:12:21 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ron D. Rossi)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
In-Reply-To: <00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
Message-ID: <200204171312.JAA25908@johnpaul.btv.ibm.com>
>>>"Tadej Mezek, S51TA" said:
>
> HI!
>
> I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is not
> put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and the
> audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
This is sound card dependent. I run my heil into my soundcard whose output
goes right to the radio. I run SBDVP with TR and I can record messages on the
fly...truly a wonderful thing. The mic however is not muted on TX of a
recorded message.
Who knows...there just may be improvements in the future.
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron rossi(kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From k3lr at k3lr.com Wed Apr 17 09:36:26 2002
From: k3lr@k3lr.com (Tim Duffy K3LR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UPDATE Dayton Contest Dinner 2002
Message-ID: <3CBD7A5A.34C9B6ED@k3lr.com>
******Tickets are selling very fast. Do not delay your order.******
UPDATE!!!! We are honored to have Joe Taylor, K1JT as our featured
dinner speaker this year.
Joe was awarded the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1993 and is also a noted
VHF Contest enthusiast.
The North Coast Contesters are pleased to announce:
The 10th Annual Dayton Contest Dinner
Tickets are on sale NOW.
Master of Ceremonies is CQ Magazine Contest Editor and
CQ Contest Hall of Fame member, John Dorr, K1AR
The 2002 Contest Hall of Fame Induction's will be formally announced by
the CQ WorldWide Contest Director and CQ Contest Hall of Fame member,
Bob Cox, K3EST.
Several WRTC 2002 activities are planned.
The dinner will be held on Saturday night, May 18, 2002 at 6:30 PM:
Cash bar opens at 5:30 PM.
Located at the Crowne Plaza Hotel (Official Contest Hotel)
5th and Jefferson Streets (Next to the Convention Center)
Dayton (Downtown), Ohio in the VAN CLEVE BALLROOM
Menu: Prime Rib of Beef, Potato, vegetables, rolls, chocolate fudge
cake, choice of beverage, coffee, tea or iced tea.
*** Vegetarian menu available by request at the dinner.
Price is $30.00 per person.
**** SEATING IS LIMITED TO 300, SO ORDER YOUR TICKETS EARLY ****
Seating is random and is not reserved. Tables are set in rounds or 8.
All dinner ticket orders are handled exclusively by Craig Clark, W1JCC
at:
Radioware and Radio Bookstore
PO Box 209
Rindge, NH 03461
http://www.radio-ware.com
You can place your order by calling:
Monday through Friday from 10 AM to 6 PM eastern USA time.
1-800-457-7373
1-603-899-6957 for International
or by FAX 1-603-899-6826 24 hours
You can also EMAIL your orders to: nx1g@monad.net
Visa, Mastercard, American Express. Sorry no COD orders.
EMAILs must include charge card + number, callsign and return address
information.
Tickets will be sent via First Class US Mail no later than May 7, 2002.
Please allow plenty of time for your tickets to arrive before you leave
for Dayton.
Radioware and Radio Bookstore is not responsible for tickets lost in the
mail.
*** Special thanks to Craig Clark, W1JCC for once again handling the
tickets ***
Deadline for ticket orders is May 6, 2002. NO EXCEPTIONS
There will be no tickets at the door.
Many contest operators from around the world attend this event. If you
enjoy radio contesting, you do not want to miss this dinner.
We expect a quick sell out. Order your tickets early!
73!
Tim K3LR
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Wed Apr 17 10:49:11 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Room space available?
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJCEBEECAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Now that I've retired from work, I have time to finally attend a Dayton
Hamvention.
Of course, no room (I tried calling at 8:15am that fateful day).
Does anyone at the Crowne Plaza have available floor space in their room
they can share?
I will pay my portion of the room, obviously.
I have a sleeping bag.
I know some cowboy poetry.
I don't smoke and I don't know N5RP.
73,
dale, kg5u
>From i4jmy at iol.it Wed Apr 17 19:06:49 2002
From: i4jmy@iol.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?i4jmy@iol.it?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] =?iso-8859-1?Q?UBN?=
Message-ID: <GUPZFD$0C7EB579BF04EA4CF7BE3235BFF8A588@iol.it>
Checked UBN fles of last WWDX SSB.
Found removed QSOs and mults.
Used Writelog, all contest digitally recorded and easy to target and
listen to verify each single doubt.
A number of bad QSO is instead Ok, but who knows if the other guy
didn't forget to log or lost the qso with us typing wrong and the
erasing with no memory...
OK also for the unavoidable limits of the checking system, nothing is
perfect.
Finally I like this checking way, also when good QSOs becomes a
penalty, each medicine isn't "panacea" and has it's side effects.
Thanks CQ and WWDX contest committee for the big job and improvements,
now it's thousand times better than what it was before and what happens
isn't their sin.
What I don't like at all is instead to have discovered a particular
mult & country and zone removed in 3 bands (80, 40 & 10).
I'm talking about a very known MultiOp top contest station that entered
in our log probably with
his "free_run_hunting_fox_illegal_same_band_station" since it did
breaking our pile up (an easy to check thing when a record is
available) and then removed the QSO, by purpose, I don't want to
question why.
That's all folks, and I'll sleep fine in any case.
73,
Mauri I4JMY (IR4T)
PS Do not ask me who that station is, if I didn't write here, it means
I don't want to tell.
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Wed Apr 17 14:31:38 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Helvetia (HB9) contest and FQP
Message-ID: <ba.24841380.29ef0b7a@aol.com>
Hello Gang,
I am appending a message from Urs, HB9ABO, a good friend of mine whom I met
on the 3B7RF DXpedition in 1998. Urs and I have been corresponding to
coordinate, as best we can, Qso's between participants in the FQP and the
Helvetia (HB9) contest which have overlapping times.
Here is the HB9 contest info from Urs:
"The 1600 - 0200 UTC period of your FQP coincides with
the first part of our Helvetia 26 contest.
HB9 stations send:
RS(T) QSO No, Canton
Where Canton is one of
ZH BE LU UR SZ OW NW GL ZG FR SO SH
BS BL AR AI GR SG AG TG TI VD VS NE GE JU
Those who will think of, will add "DX" at the end:
eg. 579123 AR DX
Foreign stations send RST and QSO Number."
Urs sent this info about HB9O which I thought would be of interest:
"Also I am still doing some work with the Swiss Humanitary
Aid Unit's specialized group CommunicationS.
HB9BXE, HB9BQW, HB9BQI are in a group of about two dozen
hams who studied then realized a complete renewal of the
Ham radio station at the Swiss Museum of Transport - HB9O.
They raised funds of more than CHF 100'000 and the new
station is now almost complete. As a member of the newly
created operating group I am now busy with instructing operators
coming from all parts of the country.
There are five working places at HB9O:
- "Individual": Terminals of all antennas, 230 V, 13.6 VDC, control
of all rotators. This place enables a ham to bring his own equipment
with him to use it at HB9O.
- ATV: Amateur Television (Reception of Satellite Signals)
- VHF/UHF: well - repeater traffic, hi. Be sure, before long I will
install a CW key there too!
- Digital VHF/UHF/HF All digital modes, spectators can watch QSOs
on large screens
- HF: FT920, good old TR7, CW/SSB
Only one of this places will be active at any time.
The station will also be on the web and there are two interactive
consoles where the spectators can see and hear "what is amateur
radio?".
So I am rather busy, travelling three times to Lucerne a week
and at home writing and updating the station's operator's manual...
bcnu on contest!
73, Urs, HB9ABO
Tnx & 73, George, K5KG/K4FQP
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From AA4NC at aol.com Wed Apr 17 17:55:48 2002
From: AA4NC@aol.com (AA4NC@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
Message-ID: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
Bill,
Don't feel like the lone ranger. I have given up waiting for CQ magazine
contest plaques that never arrived dating back to 1984! Some of these were
multiop plaques that I paid for to get copies for myself and other operators.
I feel lucky to even get a paper certificate from a CQ contest! Most of these
also seem to get lost in the same black hole with the plaques. I guess they
figure that most people are too busy calculating UBN statistics to notice that
they never get their "awards" for CQ contests.
We just have to look at N1ND and crew at ARRL to see how it SHOULD be done!
73,
Will
>From je1cka at jzap.com Thu Apr 18 12:05:22 2002
From: je1cka@jzap.com (Tack Kumagai)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] JIDX Email-Log received List
Message-ID: <200204180205.LAA00588@ne.nal.go.jp>
I have uploaded past and current JIDX contest email-log received list to
the following URL
http://je1cka.jzap.com/jidx/index.html
http://je1cka.jzap.com/jidx/2002-hfcw-log-list.html
will update twice a week
---------
JIDX contest committee chairman
Tack Kumagai JE1CKA/KH0AM
Email: jidx-chairman@ne.nal.go.jp
http://je1cka.jzap.com/jidx/
>From thompson at mindspring.com Wed Apr 17 22:58:13 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NIL on 40m SSB split
References: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBA9A@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
<00c101c1e5ab$a89aa540$0500a8c0@swift>
Message-ID: <012501c1e67e$9f613420$348156d1@default>
Two problems can occur in working split on 40 (even in just S&P operation).
1. Timing of reply error. Here a Dx station gives a report that you think
is for you but its for another station.
2. The false duplicate contact. This is a problem that occurs with the
Dx station but can occur with a W/VE running stations as well. Often the
Dx station is listening on a frequency (say 7215) but at any given time
there are several others listening on or about the same frequency. So you
give a report to say IK3XXX and he logs it correctly but HB9AAA also logs
the QSO thinking you are working him. Later you call HB9AAA and he says
"work b4."
This just happened to me in my 1 hour run during the WPX SSB. I spent 30
minutes S&Ping and 30 minutes running. Toward the end of my S&P operation I
called a semi rare station and got "worked before." At least I knew that I
was already in his log. Now the problem for the serious competitor
is to correct this and get in the log properly.
Now how do you minimize these mistakes? The best way is to say the Dx
stations call as you call him. If the other DX station hears this he or
she will not log you by mistake. Make sure the station repeats your call
or clearly gives your call. If there is ANY uncertainty ask for a repeat
and confirmation!
In running make sure you say the stations call clearly (one rule is to stay
with the same phonetics yours and his!!!) so you get the correct station to
log you. I hear Dxpeditions talking too fast or never completing the call
before QRZ and I can guess at the duplicates this causes. One other rule is
to give your complete call. I call this the N6RJ/HB9TL rule. Let the Dx
ask for a couple of letters.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From k8cc at comcast.net Thu Apr 18 01:25:17 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (Dave Pruett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Michigan QSO Party
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020418000015.00a3c9e0@mail.comcast.net>
This coming weekend is the Michigan QSO Party, sponsored by the Mad River
Radio Club. Complete rules can be found on the MRRC web site
http://www.mrrc.net, but here are the basics:
Begins: 1600 UTC - 20 April 2002
Ends: 0400 UTC - 21 April 2002
A station can be worked once per band-mode (CW/SSB) on 80-10
meters. Non-MI stations work MI stations. MI stations work anyone. MI
mobile stations can be worked again when they change counties.
Exchange: MI stations send QSO number and county. Non-MI stations send QSO
number and state/province, or "DX" for non-W/VE.
Multipliers: Counted once per mode (CW/SSB). MI stations count MI counties
(83), states (49) and VE provinces (58). Non-MI stations count MI counties.
Classes: Single-op (high, low and QRP power), multi-operator and mobile
(100W only).
Logs should be submitted within 30 days to mqp@contesting.com or via postal
mail to: MRRC, c/o Dave Pruett, K8CC, 2727 Harris Road, Ypsilanti, MI 48198.
Contest configuration files for the MiQP are available for NA, TRLog and
WriteLog. A demo version of the NA Contest Logging Program which supports
MiQP and certain other state QSO parties is available for free from the
DATOM Engineering web site at http://www.datomonline.com.
Since the MiQP contest format and rules were streamlined in 1999, activity
has increased every year. For the past two years, all 83 MI counties were
on the air through a combination of mobiles and home stations. For 2002,
there will be least ten well-equipped mobile stations out roaming the MI
countryside. We'll publish a list of calls and the counties they plan to
activate tomorrow evening. Also, a number of club stations, including the
well-known W8SH at Michigan State University and perhaps W8YY at Michigan
Tech plan to be QRV.
73,
Dave Pruett, K8CC
>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Thu Apr 18 13:14:30 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why can't I get SBDVP to record?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION> <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
<5.1.0.14.2.20020415170919.05091ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
<00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
<007f01c1e5ec$9eb83740$0801a8c0@mail.ur.ru>
Message-ID: <00ed01c1e6bd$e97ff890$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Guys, as you are successfully using it - can you give me an advice? I am
quite desperate already. I have WIN 98 and E-Dio SC4000 (ALS4000) SB Pro
compatible PCI soundcard - Win and DOS drivers installed.
I can start SBDVP and TR both in WIN or in MS-DOS but both ways allow me
only to play the example message under F10. I can not record. It creates an
empty file when I try to record with CTRL-F1. Maybe I have some conflict
between DOS and WIN soundcard dirvers, I don't know.
I can record sound files with Windows Sound Recorder though. Can I somehow
convert the WAV files into DVP files and record under Windows???
73
Tonno
ES5TV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Sokolov" <ua9cdc@mail.ur.ru>
To: "Tadej Mezek, S51TA" <s51ta@volja.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> > I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is
> not
> > put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and
> the
> > audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
>
> I am prepared to demonstrate you on the air that the audio that comes from
> SBDVP is as good or better then that coming from the mike. I have been
using
> SBDVP for the last 3-4 years and noticed that my CQ attracts more callers
if
> sent with SBDVP were the audio can be preprocessed.
>
> > even switch the mic off when transmit. And recording of messages is much
> > easier.....like k1ea dvk board.
>
> Recording with SBDVP is Ctl-F# then play it back by pressing that F#
> Just wonder what can be easier and more intuitive?
>
>
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
> >
> >
> > Ted, s51ta
> >
> >
> > Otherwise I was always TR fan....maybe something can be done by Tree.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
> > To: "Tadej Mezek, S51TA" <s51ta@volja.net>
> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> >
> >
> > > At 03:37 PM 4/15/02 +0200, you wrote:
> > > >I am using TR for so2r CW and writelog for SSB, because of voice
keyer
> > > >symplicity...
> > >
> > >
> > > Ted, you might want to look at the freeware package SBDVP. It
> integrates
> > > very tightly with TR and uses a SB-16 or similar sound card. The best
> > part
> > > is that all of the keystrokes of TR of TR work just as on CW - for
> > example,
> > > when running, you type in a station's callsign, dupe with the
spacebar,
> > say
> > > his callsign and hit Enter. The program sends your exchange to him.
You
> > > type in his exchange for you and hit [Enter] again, and the program
> sends
> > > the QSL message. The only thing it won't do is voice callsigns and
> serial
> > > numbers from typed input, but that is mostly an academic advantage,
and
> > > Writelog doesn't do that anyway, does it?
> > >
> > > 73, Pete N4ZR
> > >
> > > Check out the World HF
> > > Contest Station Database at
> > > www.pvrc.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From coaching at barrybettman.com Thu Apr 18 03:51:50 2002
From: coaching@barrybettman.com (Barry Bettman, PCC- Success Coaching
[mailto:coaching@barrybettman.com])
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dayton roomate
Message-ID: <3CBE9736.B331EB22@barrybettman.com>
I am looking for a roommate and nonsmoking room to share for May 16th
Thursday, May 17th Friday, and May 18th Saturday at Dayton. Please
contact:
Barry K6ST
coaching@barrybettman.com
650-726-1205
>From k4ww at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 07:32:54 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004301c1e6c4$665c7b80$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
AA4NC@aol.com wrote, in response to W4AN: "I feel lucky to even get a paper
certificate from a CQ contest!"
Yes I am a WPX RTTY Plaque sponsor! Having never been fortunate enough to
have won a plaque, obviously I haven't received one! I have received a few
certificates, and none of them were received in less than a year from the
particular contest! I'm more concerned with the omission of my log for 2001
WPX without any explanation or response from the contest manager? In almost
every contest, I read in the soapbox comments "how much fun was had"! While
I agree 100% with "if the awards are going to be advertised, they should be
provided", if y'all are in CQ sponsored contest(s) for the fun, why are
y'all concerned about the awards? There are far too many reasons as to the
delay or non-receipt of advertised contest award(s), but, IMHO, the primary
reason is "too much for too few with too little"! From what little I know
about the CQ award(s) program, it is a "bureaucratic nightmare", of which I
want no part of! Maybe the time has come for CQ to "fess up" and admit that
they will no longer provide ANY contest(s) awards? After all, "don't we
enter just for the fun of it"?
C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
>From n4zr at contesting.com Thu Apr 18 07:42:03 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
In-Reply-To: <200204171312.JAA25908@johnpaul.btv.ibm.com>
References: <00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020418063801.05e60ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 09:12 AM 4/17/02 -0400, Ron wrote:
> >>>"Tadej Mezek, S51TA" said:
> >
> > HI!
> >
> > I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is not
> > put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and the
> > audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
>
>This is sound card dependent. I run my heil into my soundcard whose output
>goes right to the radio. I run SBDVP with TR and I can record messages on the
>fly...truly a wonderful thing. The mic however is not muted on TX of a
>recorded message.
>
>Who knows...there just may be improvements in the future.
On at least some soundcards, full-duplex operation (whereby the microphone
audio is live when the sound card is running under SBDVP) is set up on the
Device Manager. That's where I enabled it on my SB-16.
The documentation for SBDVP, while full and technically correct, is not
very well organized to guide the user in setting it up and using it with
TR. If there is interest, I'll write up a brief "getting started"
supplement and post it on the web.
73, Pete N4ZR
>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 18 06:30:31 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
Message-ID:
<20020418053032.24594.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Wed, 17 April 2002, "Tonno Vahk" wrote
>
> As far as UBNs were mentioned I might say that I
noticed quite a few -B
> calls in our ES9C M/M UBN report that were actually
absolutely fine and
> existing calls and had been worked by many stations -
30, 40, or even more.
Just because 30 or 40 people copied the same call,
doesn't mean it's the "right" call. I've listened in
awe to some stations giving their callsigns with the
same (often highly-accented) phonetics over and over.
When pressed about a specific letter, they clarify with
different phonetics that reveal a different callsign.
In fact, several times a contest I find myself calling
a station, getting told by him that I'm a dupe, then
hear the station use a different set of phonetics that
changes his call. (This happens with spotted calls a
LOT.)
-Mike N2MG
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Thu Apr 18 18:05:05 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
References:
<20020418053032.24594.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <018f01c1e6e2$0af65e00$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Yes, of course, I am not 100% sure that those calls were actually right and
I completly agree with you. I am just wondering based on what were they
determined BAD as there was no WN and the call is issued and active
according to all callbooks and databases and he did not submit the log.
73
Tonno
ES5TV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
> On Wed, 17 April 2002, "Tonno Vahk" wrote
>
> >
> > As far as UBNs were mentioned I might say that I
> noticed quite a few -B
> > calls in our ES9C M/M UBN report that were actually
> absolutely fine and
> > existing calls and had been worked by many stations -
> 30, 40, or even more.
>
> Just because 30 or 40 people copied the same call,
> doesn't mean it's the "right" call. I've listened in
> awe to some stations giving their callsigns with the
> same (often highly-accented) phonetics over and over.
> When pressed about a specific letter, they clarify with
> different phonetics that reveal a different callsign.
>
> In fact, several times a contest I find myself calling
> a station, getting told by him that I'm a dupe, then
> hear the station use a different set of phonetics that
> changes his call. (This happens with spotted calls a
> LOT.)
>
>
> -Mike N2MG
>
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>From wally at el-soft.com Thu Apr 18 19:21:49 2002
From: wally@el-soft.com (Valeri Stefanov)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] BADs in UBN
Message-ID: <004701c1e6f5$27947020$cd1038d4@wally>
Same observed here at LZ8T as with ES9C.
OK1KH is an existing station and I work him regularily in contests. He has
quite potent signal on top band so mistake is in fact difficult to be made.
Another example is a QSO with S50S, too.
Nobody is perfect !
73's de Wally LZ2CJ & LZ8T & YM3LZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 18 09:25:27 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 18Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204181525.g3IFPR522298@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 18Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530
WX5S(@W6YX) 4553 1078 48 10,743,348 NCCC
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
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USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
NT6K 2254 845 48 4,173,455 NCCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
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USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
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USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
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USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
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USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
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USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
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USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
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USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
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USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
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USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
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USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K6LRN 333 255 208,640 NCCC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
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USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 18 09:27:42 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
18Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204181527.g3IFRgL22307@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 18Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
VE7SCC 2120 0 48 4,406,904 Coquitlam Amateur Ra
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Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
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Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
P40V 6610 1251 48 25,617,978 NCCC
3V8BB 5868 1238 48 23,900,828 YU CC
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCF
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
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Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
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Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
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Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCF
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 542 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
VE5SF 628 366 9 543,510
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCF
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCF
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
YT1RA 1227 588 36 1,535,268 YU CC
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCF
YT9X(YZ1KA) 1346 629 36 1,697,042 YU CC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 18 09:48:00 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 JIDX and EU Sprint Summaries 18Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020418084413.00aab500@pop3.eskimo.com>
Combined 2002 JIDX and EU Sprint Summaries 18Apr2002
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: jidx-hfcw@ne.nal.go.jp
Mail logs to:
JIDX HFCW Contest
c/o Five-Nine Magazine
PO Box 59
Kamata, Tokyo 144
Japan
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
GM4YXI 520 127 14 82,931 North of Scotland Co
AE0Q(@K0HM) 452 115 64,400 Grand Mesa
N0AC(@N0NI) 427 110 30 54,780
OH1F(OH1NOA) 326 100 12 36,100 CCF
N2ED 255 96 7 29,184 FRC
K3WW 224 81 6 21,060 FRC
N6ZZ 192 82 20,910 SCCC
N9RV 161 70 3 15,190 SMC
VE7FO 120 70 9 10,780
N4GG 43 34 4 1,972 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
HB9ARF 259 106 37,630
WN6K 238 88 21 30,008 SCCC
SV1CIB 109 66 9,174
VE3BUC 86 47 4 4,042
WA6BOB 35 33 2 1,155
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/10 LP
OM5AW 466 44 10 20,504
NT6K 127 41 4 10,414 NCCC
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 18Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
9A7P(9A6XX) 126 3 126 WWYC
EI/G4BUO 32 1 32
>From K1AR at aol.com Thu Apr 18 12:54:49 2002
From: K1AR@aol.com (K1AR@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plaque-gate
Message-ID: <17f.6fe1404.29f04649@aol.com>
As the guy responsible for CQ WW trophies, I can only comment on my part of
this puzzle. N8BJQ will need to respond to the WPX issues.
As for the CQ WW, we are essentially caught up. The last batch of 2000
trophies are at the engraver awaiting completion and shipment. As soon as I
have the final results for last year's contest, I will be moving forward
immediately to produce them. So, we're actually in reasonable shape.
The issue with the KH7R M/M combined awards is that they are funded and
produced locally by the boys at Alpha/Ehrhorn. I've obviously assumed
erroneously that this was happening and will fix it immediately. I'm sure
that with the business transition there, this is one thing that fell through
the cracks.
If there are other problems with CQWW trophies in particular, I am not aware
of them and encourage you to bring them to my attention.
Please accept my apology for any problems.
73 John, K1AR
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Thu Apr 18 13:32:17 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
<004301c1e6c4$665c7b80$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
Message-ID: <007901c1e6f6$9b4ad300$ab2745cf@default>
I can only speak for the CQ 160 Contests but I do know getting out
certificates and plaques is a chore.
I have some help and the results are mixed. Plaque Sponsors won't pay up or
quit amateur radio or even become SK. If I have problems with the CQ 160
Contests I know the WPX and WW must struggle. There is no national
association with paid workers to get out plaques and certificates and I
always ask the question Why do sponsors pay for these plaques and often not
for volunteer run contests such as CQ.
Now as to K4WW's complaint about being left out of the results with no
comments...this happens due to too much reliance on computer checking. I
have lost logs due to one log overlaying another and several that
disappeared. I have a check in log that allows me to provide claimed
scores and then I move the logs to a final file that is updated when the
checking is done. There are bugs in the best log checking programs (I
debugged 5 in the CQ 160 cabrillo checking software last year). I
personally check the top logs for missed errors and possible corrections. I
also check major logs if the score changes (lowers usually) by more than 3%.
I also make all decisions about DQ (usually too many unverified QSOs). I
feel sorry for K4WW as I know contest efforts deserve better. But this is
my reasoning and even in 1400 entries I still get a few lost, missed, wrong
location, wrong classification.
The WW and WPX with 6 to 10,000 entries are much more difficult and we need
the computer to help us do a better job of assuring the scores are correct
the real winners identified!
73 Dave K4JRB
> Yes I am a WPX RTTY Plaque sponsor! Having never been fortunate enough to
> have won a plaque, obviously I haven't received one! I have received a few
> certificates, and none of them were received in less than a year from the
> particular contest! I'm more concerned with the omission of my log for
2001
> WPX without any explanation or response from the contest manager? In
almost
> every contest, I read in the soapbox comments "how much fun was had"!
While
> I agree 100% with "if the awards are going to be advertised, they should
be
> provided", if y'all are in CQ sponsored contest(s) for the fun, why are
> y'all concerned about the awards? There are far too many reasons as to the
> delay or non-receipt of advertised contest award(s), but, IMHO, the
primary
> reason is "too much for too few with too little"! From what little I know
> about the CQ award(s) program, it is a "bureaucratic nightmare", of which
I
> want no part of! Maybe the time has come for CQ to "fess up" and admit
that
> they will no longer provide ANY contest(s) awards? After all, "don't we
> enter just for the fun of it"?
> C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From i4ufh at libero.it Thu Apr 18 21:29:48 2002
From: i4ufh@libero.it (Fabio I4UFH)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00ca01c1e707$05b2b630$c293623e@i4ufh>
Still Waiting IQ4T CQWW SSB 1997 1st EU SO 15 , IJ4R WPX 1991 MS 1st EU
73 Fabio I4UFH
----- Original Message -----
From: <AA4NC@aol.com>
To: ""Bill Fisher, W4AN"" <w4an@contesting.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
> Bill,
>
> Don't feel like the lone ranger. I have given up waiting for CQ magazine
contest plaques that never arrived dating back to 1984! Some of these were
multiop plaques that I paid for to get copies for myself and other
operators.
>
> I feel lucky to even get a paper certificate from a CQ contest! Most of
these also seem to get lost in the same black hole with the plaques. I guess
they figure that most people are too busy calculating UBN statistics to
notice that they never get their "awards" for CQ contests.
>
> We just have to look at N1ND and crew at ARRL to see how it SHOULD be
done!
>
> 73,
>
> Will
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From ab0mv at ix.netcom.com Thu Apr 18 14:03:16 2002
From: ab0mv@ix.netcom.com (Merrimon Crawford Pladsen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ certificates
In-Reply-To: <007901c1e6f6$9b4ad300$ab2745cf@default>
References: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
<004301c1e6c4$665c7b80$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
Message-ID: <E16yHCR-0002by-00@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net>
I know people still waiting for certificates/plaques from 1999 CQ contests.
4 years is too long. Those responsible will not respond to repeated
questions via email or snail mail. Even a simple response that those
responsible & CQ contest committee are aware of the delay and are trying to
do something about it would be better than refusing any response to
certificate/plaque winners!
73
Merri AB0MV
>From jsschuster at snet.net Thu Apr 18 19:23:58 2002
From: jsschuster@snet.net (jsschuster)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Bed available...Visalia
Message-ID: <3CBF0F3E.B5F3AFD6@snet.net>
I have an extra bed in my Holiday Inn room if anyone would like to
share costs. JACK w1wef@arrl.net
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Apr 18 20:39:24 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST QST de K4FCG K4FCG - New Catagories! - New Plaques!
Message-ID: <021501c1e732$460fb4a0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
New for this year's Florida QSO Party - which is now only 9 days away - will
be a
SWL Category
And we have added a new plaque to the awards program (tnx K4RX):
Top Single-Op Mobile CW-Only
There are alot of opportunites to receive beautiful FQP certificates and a
very extensive plaque program...
If you haven't done so yet - go to the FQP website - there are the records -
the results - and EVERYTHING you wanna know about the hottest QSO Party in
April - The FQP! Click on:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
Florida hams are asked to please register with NS4W as soon as possible -
(see the county activation page and click on his call) wiht YOUR county
activation plans....this is a big help for guys looking to complete their
Florida Counties for CHC and also an aid to the competitors as far as
knowing who will be going to which county, we try to activate every county
with more than one ham - even if that means multiple mobile teams...by the
way their tentative routes are also on there!
Its CW, its SSB and its 10 - 40 meters on both Saturday and Sunday....did I
mention that it is only
9 Days Until FQP 2K2?
Join the PARTY, the Florida QSO Party!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Apr 18 21:07:08 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FLASH THIS JUST IN Re: QST QST de K4FCG K4FCG - New
Catagories! - New Plaques!
Message-ID: <026c01c1e736$25a97f80$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
This just in to FQP central
STOP THE PRESSES!
Yet another catagory has been added to the FQP Plaque program...
Thanks to sponosrship by N4PN we now have a new catagory for the FQP plaque
program...
Top Multi-Op Mobile CW
(can anyone do battle with K1TO and N4TO?)
The FQP keeps growing - find out why on Aptil 27 and 28 - last years logs
received reporteed
28,978 QSOs
were made in the 2,001 Florida QSO Party.....
K4OJ
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:39 PM
Subject: QST QST de K4FCG K4FCG - New Catagories! - New Plaques!
> New for this year's Florida QSO Party - which is now only 9 days away -
will
> be a
>
> SWL Category
>
>
> And we have added a new plaque to the awards program (tnx K4RX):
>
> Top Single-Op Mobile CW-Only
>
>
> There are alot of opportunites to receive beautiful FQP certificates and a
> very extensive plaque program...
>
> If you haven't done so yet - go to the FQP website - there are the
records -
> the results - and EVERYTHING you wanna know about the hottest QSO Party in
> April - The FQP! Click on:
>
> http://www.qsl.net/fqp
>
> Florida hams are asked to please register with NS4W as soon as possible -
> (see the county activation page and click on his call) wiht YOUR county
> activation plans....this is a big help for guys looking to complete their
> Florida Counties for CHC and also an aid to the competitors as far as
> knowing who will be going to which county, we try to activate every county
> with more than one ham - even if that means multiple mobile teams...by the
> way their tentative routes are also on there!
>
> Its CW, its SSB and its 10 - 40 meters on both Saturday and Sunday....did
I
> mention that it is only
>
> 9 Days Until FQP 2K2?
>
> Join the PARTY, the Florida QSO Party!
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, K4OJ
>
> http://www.qsl.net/fqp
>
>
>
>
>From k1ir at designet.com Thu Apr 18 22:25:47 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Welcome K7BV!
Message-ID: <km1zbcrga22vroi.180420022125@designet-jsi>
Fellow contesters,
With thoughts of contest coverage, Logbook of the World, World Amateur Radio
Day [what's that?] and a variety of other subjects weighing heavily on my mind,
I decided to dial up our new ARRL Sales and Marketing man - Dennis
Motschenbacher, K7BV - just to exchange some ideas. We had a great
conversation, and I wanted to let you all know that I see his involvement as a
really positive development. Take a look at the note he sent along following
our conversation.
Welcome and GL, Dennis!
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
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FROM: "Motschenbacher, Dennis K7BV" <k7bv@arrl.org>
TO: 'Jim Idelson' <k1ir@designet.com>
DATE: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:13:19 -0400
RE: RE: re[2]: Want to talk?
Jim,
Thanks for the call today. Although, I have only been working at the League
for a little over two weeks, I am already deeply grateful that there are
enthusiastic hams like you who care enough about our hobby to pick up the
telephone and express their well thought out concerns about our hobby with
me. I appreciate you giving me a chance to listen to you, trusting that I
was indeed doing exactly that - listening to you.
Now that I am working inside the walls at the ARRL, I find myself stunned by
the number of different topics that are being dealt with by the staff. Today
I still feel overwhelmed as I rush from office to office, absorbing history,
goals, and activity details for the incredibly diverse spectrum of interests
within amateur radio. It very clear to me that this Sales & Marketing
Manager job will put me in close touch with virtually every department in
the League.
I am making it my personal goal to insure that I work to maintain an open
and accommodating relationship with everyone here and, equally as important,
with the people we serve. I do feel some comfort knowing I do not need to
have all the answers but instead can draw on the vast resource of our
talented membership. I made note of the great marketing ideas you shared
with me and I will make sure the Marketing Team I am in the process of forming
gives them a good round of out-of-the-box discussion
Again, thanks for your call that reinforced this core belief of mine that I
am here to "develop" efforts that bring in additional members and revenues -
people like you will insure that I have an endless list of ideas to develop.
Although I know for sure that I will not be able to please everyone, I
promise you I will never use that as an excuse for not trying.
So...back to reeeally important matters - tell me again what the YCCC
signing bonus is?
73, Dennis Motschenbacher K7BV/1
ARRL Sales & Marketing Manager
860.594.0412
>From jdup at jdupree.com Thu Apr 18 23:03:14 2002
From: jdup@jdupree.com (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #1
Message-ID: <009301c1e746$70c1f190$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Contesters:
This post begins a review of spots from the 2002 WPX SSB contest.
I started looking at spots earlier this year, after the ARRL DX
contests, when I noticed that someone had spotted under my call.
Reviewing the WPX spots, there are patterns, especially from
spots made via IRC/DX Summit.
In the WPX contest, 248 US calls made close to 450 spots via
IRC/DX Summit. 27 of those US calls making spots, or
10.8%, were by inactive calls.
Only a handful of other US inactives were found in thousands
of spots from other nodes and clusters.
DX inactives were much more difficult to determine, because
of conflicting information on the web. I have tried to
err on the side of caution when dealing with those numbers.
Basically the data presented here will show the number of
"unique" spotters - that is, calls that made only one spot
during the contest (and often had never spotted before.)
Along with unique calls, there are calls that are inactive.
Those calls aren't being busted and spotted, but rather the
inactive calls are doing the spotting.
Also, there are spots from calls which never use IRC/DX Summit
to make spots - but for some reason used that to make
a spot of one of these stations.
Sometimes, patterns quickly emerge - such as a string of
spots of the same station on the exact same frequency.
Also, certain letter combinations become obvious because
of their placement on the keyboard. Look for spotting
stations with strings like FGH, GTY, GTF, DRF, HYG and
combinations like that.
This data will not "prove" that a certain station has faked
spots - the spot data will speak for itself and should be
interpreted by everyone on their own. I don't make any
contest rules, nor do I enforce any. This is just what I found.
These spots could be legit, they could be done by a friend, or
even a foe of the station being spotted - all with or without
that station's knowledge.
I do hope people will take the time to calmly evaluate
the data and then draw their own conclusions.
All times are in GMT.
Jamie NS3T
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:03:59 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #2
Message-ID: <009901c1e746$8b2ddc10$0000a398@COMPUTER>
US Inactives-WPX
This is a list of the inactive US calls which made spots in
the 2002 WPX SSB. The calls were checked with both Buckmaster
and the WM7D.net databases.
All of these spots originated from IRC/DX Summit except
for the spots of PY2NDX, which were spotted via a
node in Europe.
The inactive call of the spotter is first, followed by the
call of the station being spotted:
AG6TR (RS0F)
K2FGY (OH1F)
K3IUP (OH1F)
K3SK (RS0F)
K4JHV (UA9YAB)
K5UIP (PY2NDX)
K6LTX (RA0FU)
K8AQW (OH1F)
K8DGH (EA3ELZ)
K8IJL (ER6A)
K9APM (LT1A & LT1F)
KA4OWW (CQ1P)
KB5RT (AL1G)
KD7RDG (PY2NDX)
KF6SAK (PY2NDX)
KM4RT (EA3ELZ)
N4GHY (SV1SL)
W0JIG (NP2N/AG0)
W4RFC (UA9YAB)
W6JGH (TG9AJR)
W6JUD (WP3C)
W7UAS (UA9YAB)
W8GYT (SV1SL)
W8JGX (UA9YAB)
W8NNB (TG9AJR)
W9RSK (RS0F)
WA4DSF (TG9AJR)
WB3ERH (PY2NDX)
WB6WER (OH0V)
WB8ETG (EA3ELZ)
WB8FHG (TG9AJR)
WB8JFH (TG9AJR)
MORE
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:05:10 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #3
Message-ID: <00ac01c1e746$b5bffdf0$0000a398@COMPUTER>
The first example from the 2002 WPX SSB is LV7H.
During the contest, there were 54 spots of LV7H.
34 of those came from DX Summit.
Of those 34 spots, 27 of the spotting calls were
unique - meaning that station only spotted LV7H
during the contest. In fact, only two of these uniques
had previous spots on record.
As many as 18 of those 27 uniques were also inactive
calls, depending on the source (Buckmaster, etc.)
There were no inactive US calls found.
K3DZ 14155 LV7H Sun Mar 31 22:44:00 2002
OH2TR 28667 LV7H Sun Mar 31 18:48:00 2002
4Z5LJ 28544 LV7H Sun Mar 31 17:45:00 2002
IZ3ETV 28515 LV7H Sun Mar 31 15:25:00 2002
ES7DR 28597 LV7H Sun Mar 31 14:29:00 2002
ZS6IR 28530 LV7H Sun Mar 31 13:56:00 2002
F5FTR 28665 LV7H Sun Mar 31 13:14:00 2002
DL5GHY 28566 LV7H Sun Mar 31 12:39:00 2002
SP7FGT 28463 LV7H Sun Mar 31 12:14:00 2002
JA5GDT 21277 LV7H Sun Mar 31 02:25:00 2002
UT1AS 14234.5 LV7H Sun Mar 31 01:29:00 2002
JA5GDT 21277 LV7H Sun Mar 31 02:25:00 2002
UT1AS 14234.5 LV7H Sun Mar 31 01:29:00 2002
IK5DFT 21204 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 19:29:00 2002
ZS5DRF 28553.5 LV7H Sat Mar 30 18:37:00 2002
PY2FYS 28689 LV7H Sat Mar 30 17:11:00 2002
UR5TD 28553 LV7H Sat Mar 30 16:05:00 2002
OH7GH 28429 LV7H Sat Mar 30 12:19:00 2002
OM7M 28485 LV7H Sat Mar 30 12:17:00 2002
EA4DLE 28422 LV7H Sat Mar 30 11:46:00 2002
DL1ERK 28575 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 11:13:00 2002
SP6GTY 28534 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 10:53:00 2002
DL3FTN 14157 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 06:55:00 2002
EA3ARL 14338 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 06:25:00 2002
JF2ERD 21266 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 05:09:00 2002
JA7DHE 28537 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 04:40:00 2002
JA1FDE 21218.5 LV7H CONTET VIA LU7HF Sat Mar 30 01:51
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
In the WPX, there were 17 spots of TG9AJR. A dozen of
those spots were via IRC/DX Summit. Those 12 spots
also produced 12 unique calls. Every one of these
calls has no spots on record other than TG9AJR.
VE4TBD 14142 TG9AJR Sun Mar 31 23:56 2002
WA6DVC 21413 TG9AJR Sun Mar 31 23:43 2002
W6JGH 28306 TG9AJR Sun Mar 31 23:15 2002
WA4DSF 28306 TG9AJR Test Sun Mar 31 23:08 2002
HA3SDF 21185 TG9AJR Sun Mar 31 06:36 2002
WB8FHG 21436 TG9AJR Sat Mar 30 18:49 2002
W8NNB 28707 TG9AJR Test Sat Mar 30 14:44 2002
KC0ADF 28707 TG9AJR Sat Mar 30 14:34 2002
EA3FVB 28707 TG9AJR Sat Mar 30 14:19 2002
WB8JFH 28707 TG9AJR Sat Mar 30 14:02 2002
VE3DFG 28689 TG9AJR Test Sat Mar 30 13:49 2002
LU7FHG 21210 TG9AJR CQ CONTEST WPX Sat Mar 30 06:19 2002
At least six of those calls are inactive.
They include: VE4TBD, W6JGH, WA4DSF, WB8FHG, W8NNB and WB8JFH.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
In the WPX, there were 80 spots of RS0F. Of those, 59 spots
came via IRC/DX Summit. 33 of those 59 calls were uniques -
meaning that station only spotted RS0F during the contest.
For all but two calls, this is the only spot listed
on record by this call.
10-14 of those unique calls were also inactive, depending
on the source (Buckmaster, etc.) Two of those inactive
calls were from the US: AG6TR and W6NHS.
Here are the uniques for RS0F:
KS6T 21370.8 RS0F Sun Mar 31 23:51:00 2002
AD6KA 21370.8 RS0F Sun Mar 31 23:44:00 2002
K3SK 21387 RS0F Sun Mar 31 12:20:00 2002
UT7EE 21387 RS0F Sun Mar 31 12:16:00 2002
9A8M 21387 RS0F Sun Mar 31 12:03:00 2002
G4RDG 21386.9 RS0F Sun Mar 31 12:00:00 2002
JA8DLC 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:52:00 2002
UA9AN 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:43:00 2002
VK4WPX 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:37:00 2002
ON4CSA 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:16:00 2002
ON4CAZ 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:09:00 2002
IZ3WWY 21387 RS0F rusia spase station! Sun Mar 31 10:55
HA1SN 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 10:53:00 2002
YB0DPI 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 09:32:00 2002
OE5RU 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 09:27:00 2002
DL7YD 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 09:18:00 2002
G4RDF 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 08:51:00 2002
DL1GN 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 08:44:00 2002
OK1KMS 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 08:41:00 2002
LZ5Z 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 08:22:00 2002
VE7AVV 21220 RS0F Sun Mar 31 04:43:00 2002
L20E 21220 RS0F Sun Mar 31 04:33:00 2002
K6HRU 21268 RS0F Sun Mar 31 03:43:00 2002
NA7Z 21268 RS0F Sun Mar 31 03:37:00 2002
K7TR 21268 RS0F Sun Mar 31 03:19:00 2002
KR5D 21268 RS0F Sun Mar 31 03:09:00 2002
AG6TR 21304.7 RS0F Sun Mar 31 02:22:00 2002
N2UVR 21304.7 RS0F Sun Mar 31 01:47:00 2002
NA0U 21448.8 RS0F Sun Mar 31 00:07:00 2002
W6NHS 21448.9 RS0F Sun Mar 31 00:00:00 2002
W9RSK 21325 RS0F Sat Mar 30 23:44:00 2002
W6RS 21325 RS0F Sat Mar 30 23:22:00 2002
SP3FR 21415.8 RS0F Sat Mar 30 12:02:00 2002
12 other stations spotted RS0F with their only IRC/
DX Summit spot of the contest - while using a different
node for other WPX spots:
W2GG, AA3B, W3AS, RM6A, DL8AAM, SK6DZ, RL3A, DL2HX,
UA6LGR, YU1RE, RK9CZO and JA5WNH.
MORE
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:06:03 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #4
Message-ID: <00b101c1e746$d53100d0$0000a398@COMPUTER>
The next example, PY2NDX is different from all of the others
presented here. There were 51 WPX spots of PY2NDX.
32 of those spots were made thru a node in Spain.
Of the 28 stations that spotted thru that node, 23 of the
calls were uniques, meaning that they only spotted
PY2NDX during the contest. For many, this is their only
spot on record.
Of those 23 uniques, at least 11 of the calls are inactive.
The US inactives include: WB3ERH, W8TGP, K5UIP and KD7RDG.
Here is the list of unique spotters:
KF4RGB 21349.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 23:58
K9JU 21349.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 23:50:
K9JU 28508.1 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 23:09:
K9JU 21406.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 22:27
UA4JV 14133.8 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 21:48
PA3ERT 14211.3 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 21:08
M0FTY 21327.4 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 19:30
DF4RG 21353.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 19:10
SP4JL 28540 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 18:55
OK1ASG 28673 PY2NDX cq wpx Sun Mar 31 15:11
JA1GIO 21318 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 02:06
JA1DVF 21317.8 PY2NDX wpx Sun Mar 31 01:22
WB3ERH 21317 PY2NDX wpx Sun Mar 31 00:48
W8TGP 28562.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 00:29
K5UIP 28562.5 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 23:52
W9TY 28562.5 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 22:17
DL2JIK 21306.5 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 21:30
W3FG 28331.8 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 20:44
KF9RF 28331.8 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 20:35
KF6SAK 28532 PY2NDX cq wpx Sat Mar 30 19:42
EA4HJE 28559 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 17:13
K4VB 28653.8 PY2NDX wpx Sat Mar 30 14:40
IK2WDH 28650 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 11:09
JA3ESJ 14176 PY2NDX wpx Sat Mar 30 09:49
KD7RDG 14188 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 05:55
Again, all of these spots of PY2NDX were made thru a node
in Spain. That same node is regularly used for spotting by
PY2NDX during non-contest periods. A similar pattern
was observed during the ARRL DX SSB contest.
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
JT1BV
In the WPX SSB, there were 22 spots of JT1BV.
16 of those 22 spots were via IRC/DX Summit.
Those produced 15 "unique" calls:
EA1TI 28480 JT1BV Sun Mar 31 04:50:00 2002
JA1WQL 28525 JT1BV Sun Mar 31 03:30:00 2002
JH5HDA 28485 JT1BV Sun Mar 31 03:21:00 2002
DS2AHI 28485 JT1BV cq Sun Mar 31 03:09:00 2002
JA3ULR 28485 JT1BV test Sun Mar 31 02:50:00 2002
UQ1D 28510 JT1BV Mongolia Sun Mar 31 02:42
EA1WYF 28545 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 09:41:00 2002
IK5VHU 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 08:34:00 2002
RA3SA 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 08:22:00 2002
9A5ST 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 07:44:00 2002
DL1BBR 28400 JT1BV naran u get qsl 0n 40m 4 Sat Mar 30 07:10
YT7TY 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 06:41:00 2002
RZ6BU 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 06:32:00 2002
KC7UP 28605 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 02:58:00 2002
WA6AQQ 28605 JT1BV cq contest! Sat Mar 30 02:49:00
For what it's worth, there were five self-spots for JT1BV as well:
JT1BV 28480.0 JT1BV contest 0205 30 Mar 2002
JT1BV 28485.0 JT1BV 0314 30 Mar 2002
JT1BV 28685.0 JT1BV cq contest!0621 30 Mar 2002
JT1BV 28495.0 JT1BV 0701 30 Mar 2002
JT1BV 28690.0 JT1BV 0733 30 Mar 2002
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
YL7C
In the WPX SSB contest, there were 27 spots of YL7C.
14 stations made 21 spots of YL7C via IRC/DX Summit.
Of those 14 calls, 13 were uniques (several had multiple
spots of YL7C.) As many as 9 of the DX calls could
be inactive.
K6CAL 14238.6 YL7C WPX Sun Mar 31 18:30
W7CZ 14238.6 YL7C WPX Sun Mar 31 18:18
K6CAL 14238.6 YL7C cq Sun Mar 31 17:47
KE4HW 21297.5 YL7C WPX Sun Mar 31 15:12
K7GE 21240 YL7C Sun Mar 31 17:15
PA3KD 14166.3 YL7C LOUD Sun Mar 31 08:55
JA7MMI 28587.7 YL7C Sun Mar 31 08:03
JA5MWE 28537.7 YL7C Sun Mar 31 07:08
K7GE 14164.5 YL7C WPX Sun Mar 31 04:30
YB8QY 14219.9 YL7C LOUD Sat Mar 30 19:11
KE4HW 14243.8 YL7C Sat Mar 30 18:27:
KE4HW 21425.3 YL7C Sat Mar 30 14:21
KE4HW 28564.6 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 12:52
XA2LA 21145.8 YL7C Sat Mar 30 11:27
JA5MWE 21302.6 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 10:35
JF5RJK 28655.8 YL7C Sat Mar 30 09:35
DS5REF 28590 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 09:24
JH6TRC 28590 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 09:02
JA7MMI 28385.6 YL7C LOUD Sat Mar 30 08:27
JA8BBN 28328.2 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 08:12:
MORE
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:06:43 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #5
Message-ID: <00b201c1e746$ed3d0250$0000a398@COMPUTER>
LT1F
During the WPX contest, there were over 130 spots of LT1F.
Of those, 55 spots came via mIRC - those will be the spots
that this data concerns.
Of those 55 spots via mIRC, 43 of the calls were unique -
meaning that station only spotted LT1F during the contest.
7-12 of these calls were also inactive, depending
on the source (Buckmaster, etc.)
The only US inactive was K9APM. The note from K9APM
is: "assisted category." These are the uniques:
JA5SUD 14223.5 LT1F booming signal Sun Mar 31 22:00
JA1EEG 28533.8 LT1F good signal in JA Sun Mar 31 21:56
PY5XT 3780 LT1F 59 wpx Sun Mar 31 21:48
K9APM 28555 LT1F assisted category Sun Mar 31 21:36
N5YE 28544.9 LT1F Sun Mar 31 20:38
WS0V 28544.9 LT1F Sun Mar 31 20:10
SM5DYC 21349.7 LT1F 59 wpx Sun Mar 31 20:07
DK9SD 28576 LT1F Sun Mar 31 19:56
W0AJU 21349.7 LT1F 59 Sun Mar 31 19:42
UN8GF 14300 LT1F good signal Sun Mar 31 19:39
PA0ATY 28576 LT1F 59==== Sun Mar 31 19:36
G3JJZ 21349.7 LT1F wpx very strong Sun Mar 31 19:13
LU1FAM 21375.8 LT1F Look for Us!!! :)) Sun Mar 31 18:02
IK2ULM 28657.5 LT1F Sun Mar 31 17:36
LU1FAM 28537.2 LT1F Sun Mar 31 16:53
HB9AWS 28632.9 LT1F few takers! Sun Mar 31 13:05
LY5W 28632.9 LT1F WEAK SIGNAL Sun Mar 31 12:52
UT6EE 21328.9 LT1F long path (lp wpx) Sun Mar 31 12:13
DL3DBY 28632.9 LT1F wpx very strong Sun Mar 31 12:09
JH4AS 14219.6 LT1F cq contest Sun Mar 31 09:15
DN8AF 14334 LT1F DX CONTEST Sun Mar 31 07:32
JR3LFP 21355 LT1F Sun Mar 31 06:55
EA3ACA 14334 LT1F Sun Mar 31 06:53:
VA7AM 7080.5 LT1F qsx 7269 Sun Mar 31 06:43
HC1OT 7048 LT1F qsx 7211 contest Sun Mar 31 05:25
W7KQZ 14321 LT1F contest Sun Mar 31 05:15
JA1KWB 28415 LT1F Sun Mar 31 04:21
W4QK 21355 LT1F Sun Mar 31 04:20
OH6XY 7051.2 LT1F Sun Mar 31 04:17
RU9AF 28414 LT1F cq cq Sun Mar 31 04:00
VP2YV 21355 LT1F contest Sun Mar 31 03:59:
JK1NOP 28415.4 LT1F WPX BOOMING SIGNAL Sun Mar 31 02:01
JA7NUR 21228.7 LT1F WPX / BIG SIGNAL Sun Mar 31 01:59
KK4TA 14290 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:58:
W1TRB 7056 LT1F qsx 7227 Sun Mar 31 00:51
JA4YHX 14200 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:41
N02A 28413.6 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:29
N2NI 21228.7 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:28
WS7V 3790 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:27
SVGHF 14329 LT1F Sat Mar 30 23:32
K6AY 28438 LT1F Sat Mar 30 23:25
W9YK 28438.2 LT1F Sat Mar 30 23:21
LU9FHY 7050 LT1F Sat Mar 30 23:16
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
UA9YAB
During the WPX contest, there were 30 spots of UA9YAB.
Of those, 11 spots came via mIRC/DX Summit.
Of those 11 spots via mIRC, 9 of the calls were unique -
as many as seven of those uniques were also inactive calls,
depending on the source (Buckmaster, etc.)
The US inactives were:
W8JGX 28620 UA9YAB Sun Mar 31 13:25
W4RFC 28355 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 13:39
K4JHV 28355 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 13:07
W7UAS 28546.3 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 01:37
Here are the other uniques:
PY7TFZ 28620 UA9YAB Big in WPX Sun Mar 31 11:53
JK7SXM 28528 UA9YAB Sun Mar 31 03:44
JH1ACA 28440 UA9YAB Sun Mar 31 01:19
SP7YHC 28536.6 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 06:55
JH1ACA 28545 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 01:06
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
UU7J
During the WPX contest, there were 62 spots of UU7J.
Of those, 30 spots came via mIRC/DX Summit.
Of those 30 spots, 19 of the calls were "unique" -
2-5 of those uniques were also inactive calls, depending
on the source (Buckmaster, etc.) There were no US inactives,
but the WA1Z spot would seem to be out of band.
Here are the uniques:
VE7VZ 14136 UU7J Sun Mar 31 23:47
WA1Z 14132 UU7J Sun Mar 31 22:50
M3JAG 14169.2 UU7J Sun Mar 31 21:30
CT1GFK 14169.2 UU7J Sun Mar 31 19:13
WA2AGE 14170 UU7J loud Sun Mar 31 17:24:
JE0EHE 14170 UU7J Sun Mar 31 16:42
EU3AR 14170 UU7J Sun Mar 31 14:21
DL1EF 14170 UU7J wpx Sun Mar 31 13:31
W1TE 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 13:00
DK4ZZ 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 12:32
OZ5RM 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 10:26
RW4HB 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 10:11
OK2BJK 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 07:35
WN6R 14212 UU7J wpx loud Sun Mar 31 00:45
ON7CC 14187 UU7J Sat Mar 30 20:24
G0TTM 14187 UU7J Sat Mar 30 20:15
IZ5ENH 14187.1 UU7J wpx Sat Mar 30 19:22
UA9ACE 14192.9 UU7J Sat Mar 30 14:10
SM7CQY 14193 UU7J Sat Mar 30 13:24
SM7CQY 14207.5 UU7J Sat Mar 30 08:45
MORE
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:07:32 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #6
Message-ID: <00b501c1e747$09ec4d20$0000a398@COMPUTER>
RA0FU
There were 17 spots of RA0FU during the WPX SSB contest.
Of those 17, 8 spots were via IRC/DX Summit.
Those eight calls produced eight unique spots and
as many as six inactive calls, including K6LTX.
K6LTX 28512.2 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 23:35:00 2002
F6GPJ 28612.6 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 10:40:00 2002
SP3AK 28613 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 10:21:00 2002
OK1DFA 28575.7 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 09:33:00 2002
DL4OCG 28575 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 09:07:00 2002
OE3DFG 28575 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 08:33:00 2002
EA5GF 28348.2 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 08:06:00 2002
LY3GA 28514 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 07:35:00 2002
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
RD4M
During the WPX contest, there were 36 spots of RD4M.
Of those, 24 spots came via mIRC/DX Summit.
Of those 24 spots via mIRC, 7 of the calls were unique -
3-6 of those uniques were also inactive calls, depending
on the source (Buckmaster, etc.)
There were no inactive US calls found in these spots.
The uniques are as follows:
DL3WQ 7080.9 RD4M Sun Mar 31 23:48:00 2002
F6HYY 7033.3 RD4M Sun Mar 31 22:00:00 2002
DL1WAL 21320 RD4M Sun Mar 31 16:16:00 2002
JK1DLW 28532 RD4M Sun Mar 31 05:55:00 2002
NI2W 14197 RD4M Sun Mar 31 04:43:00 2002
DF2WE 21225.1 RD4M Sat Mar 30 16:13:00 2002
DN1ET 28552 RD4M Sat Mar 30 12:12:00 2002
Five other stations spotted RD4M with their only mIRC/DX Summit
spot of the entire contest:
RL3A, RZ3AZ, PA1BRZ, NR2D and RU4HP
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
5B4/R3CC
During the WPX contest, there were 80 spots of UA9YAB.
Of those, 14 spots came via mIRC/DX Summit.
Of those 14 spots via mIRC, 6 of the calls were unique -
Two of those uniques were also inactive calls, according
to Buckmaster. There were no US inactives.
Here are the uniques:
DL6DGI 3798.5 5B4/R3CC Sun Mar 31 20:47:00 2002
KB3BBJ 28527.7 5B4/R3CC Sun Mar 31 16:52:00 2002
JH6WNY 28522.3 5B4/R3CC Sun Mar 31 05:07:00 2002
JA3VXH 28516 5B4/R3CC wpx Sun Mar 31 04:57:00 2002
KC8QKF 21300 5B4/R3CC Sat Mar 30 01:51:00 2002
KC3SF 21300 5B4/R3CC Sat Mar 30 01:38:00 2002
N3FYW 21301.3 5B4/R3CC loud Sat Mar 30 01:15:00 2002
There were also these two spots from W1AAA:
W1AAA 21200 5B4/R3CC self spot on dxsummit Sat Mar 30 01:57
W1AAA 21205 5B4/R3CC using bogus calls Sat Mar 30 01:57
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
EA3ELZ
There were 10 spots of EA3ELZ in the WPX SSB. Four of those
spots were via IRC/DX Summit. All four were uniques:
WB8ETG 28731.4 EA3ELZ BIG SIG Sun Mar 31 16:35
K8DGH 28766 EA3ELZ BIG SIG Sun Mar 31 13:40
NO5R 14349.2 EA3ELZ WPX Sun Mar 31 03:35
KM4RT 14315.5 EA3ELZ Sat Mar 30 02:29
US callbook servers say that three of these calls are
not active: WB8ETG, K8DGH and KM4RT.
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
AN5OL
In the WPX, there were seven spots for AN5OL, all seven
were uniques. Note the similarity in the three G-calls.
G0PPF 28401 AN5OL Sun Mar 31 12:41:00 2002
US2IR 28549.5 AN5OL Sun Mar 31 07:25:00 2002
G0PPP 28390.9 AN5OL Sat Mar 30 11:38:00 2002
LY2AT 28390.8 AN5OL via EA5OL Sat Mar 30 11:02:00
G0PPP 21310 AN5OL test Sat Mar 30 10:40:00 2002
G0PPH 14285 AN5OL Sat Mar 30 08:23:00 2002
G0PPH 14288 AN5OL Sat Mar 30 07:32:00 2002
G0PPH is active - but it is unclear from web searches whether
G0PPP and G0PPF are as well. All of those spots were made
from a node in Spain. The other two spots were from mIRC/DX Summit.
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
WP3C
During the WPX contest, there were 47 spots of WP3C.
5 of those spots came via IRC/DX Summit - those five
stations were all uniques, only spotting WP3C.
Two of those calls are listed as inactive.
VE3RM 28666.6 WP3C Sun Mar 31 18:04:00 2002
I7RFG 28856 WP3C Via W3HNK Sun Mar 31 15:19:00 2002
KP4AH 28638.5 WP3C TEST Sun Mar 31 12:45:00 2002
W6JUD 21335.5 WP3C TEST Sun Mar 31 12:24:00 2002
NP3KI 7090 WP3C 7279.0 Sun Mar 31 11:19:00 2002
KP4AH 7091 WP3C 7199.0 Sat Mar 30 09:06:00 2002
NP3KI 7091 WP3C 7200.0 Sat Mar 30 08:30:00 2002
The inactive calls are W6JUD and I7RFG.
Also, there are two self-spots for WP3C from the WPX:
WP3C-WPX 28420.0 WP3C WPX KP42319 31 Mar 2002
WP3C 7087.5 WP3C 7288.0 KP40641 30 Mar 2002
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
RW3DU
In the WPX contest, there were 9 spots of RW3DU.
They included spots from eight unique calls:
JS6GIM 28462 RW3DU BIG Sun Mar 31 11:20:00 2002
F6KTL 21253.5 RW3DU BIG SIGNAL Sun Mar 31 06:53:00
OH2K 3730.2 RW3DU Sat Mar 30 19:40:00 2002
RK6BZ 3749 RW3DU CQ TEST Sat Mar 30 17:45:00 2002
EA7FVX 14305 RW3DU Sat Mar 30 17:03:00 2002
WS1A 21383.5 RW3DU Sat Mar 30 12:40:00 2002
NB1B 21245 RW3DU FB Sat Mar 30 12:32:00 2002
DL7FER 14256.5 RW3DU BIG SIGNAL Sat Mar 30 11:24:00
Seven of these spots were via IRC/DX Summit, only RK6BZ was not.
NB1B usually uses another node.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
NP2N/AG0
In the WPX, 10 stations made 17 spots of NP2N/AG0.
Two of the spots came from W0JIG, which is not an active call:
W0JIG 14270 NP2N/AG0 Sat Mar 30 14:27
W0JIG 14195.5 NP2N/AG0 LOUD IN CENTRAL IOWA Sat Mar 30 03:15
NP2N/AG0 was also spotted 7 times by W0ANZ.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
OH1F
There were 20 total spots of OH1F during the WPX contest.
Four of those spots came via IRC/DX Summit - three of
the calls were unique spotters:
K2FGY 213582 OH1F Sun Mar 31 16:04:00 2002
K3IUP 21379 OH1F Sat Mar 30 17:29:00 2002
K8AQW 21379 OH1F Sat Mar 30 17:04:00 2002
All three of these US calls are listed as inactive.
*********************************************
>From ki9a at aol.com Fri Apr 19 00:04:00 2002
From: ki9a@aol.com (ki9a@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
Message-ID: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
#2 & #3,"unique" spots, inactive calls, blah,blah,blah.
Is this really going to make or break contesting?
DO THE RULES STATE YOU NEED TO USE YOUR OWN CALL TO PUT *INTERNET*, yes,
INTERNET spots up??
This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not condone using "fake" calls for
spotting, but, I'm sure there are better things to talk about than this BS.
Again folks, you don't need to correctly ID on the internet spots, errr, maybe
they changed the rules? Maybe I will spot guys during the next contest using
the word MOE or CURLEY instead of my own call, I'm sure NS3T will drive himself
nuts trying to figure if MOE is still active? ;-)
73-Chuck KI9A
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Fri Apr 19 05:32:44 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
In-Reply-To: <200204190252.g3J2qj9F030858@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020419041415.00d41b00@pop.pacific.net.hk>
If dealing with the logs, putting together the results & getting out
certificates &
plaques is anything like QSLs, then I don't envy the lot of volunteers like
N8BJQ,
K4JRB, K3EST & Co, etc.
Sometimes I wonder how I include an SAE & IRC in my Cabrillo file in order to
help make getting the certificate back to me easier for these guys - or
what the
tag is for including a credit card number to pay for a plaque that the
original sponsor
may not have followed through with, or to pay for one if I may have
qualified for one
which had not been sponsored.
Sometimes I reckon there's simply more that the participants could be doing.
For example, what's a plaque cost - USD50? That's less per day than it costs
to leave my motor at the airport when I fly to 9M6 for the weekend, let alone
the plane ticket itself. Heck, I don't see much change out of USD50 driving
into town to collect QSLs from my PO box!
The certificates are often not such a big deal, as #1 HK is almost always a
given.
I do get a kick out of the ones that are endorsed as zone winner, #1 Asia, #5
world or the like... wish we could see more of that. Awards help fuel activity
in the event, IMHO. They are important, just like those pesky QSLs we get as
a result of operating in them.
I'm still shy of Real Contester status, so believe to date I've earned only
one Real
Contest plaque. It is for WPX, but I'm patient. Just like discussing
UBNs, these
guys are reasonable & I for one am willing to cut them some slack.
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From k8cc at comcast.net Fri Apr 19 02:05:08 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (Dave Pruett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Routes For MiQP Mobiles This Weekend
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020419004959.0098c5e0@mail.comcast.net>
One last reminder the 2002 Michigan QSO Party is this weekend, running from
16Z on Saturday to 04Z Sunday. Full rules are available on the MRRC web
site at http://www.mrrc.net.
A big part of the activity in state QSO parties comes from mobile stations
who roam the countryside activating rare or uncommon counties. MiQP is no
different and there will be ten full time mobile stations out this
weekend. Here are their callsigns and the counties they will activate:
AA8U:
Jackson, Ingham, Eaton, Calhoun, Barry, Allegan, Kent, Ottawa, Muskegon,
Newaygo, Montcalm, Ionia, Gratiot, Clinton
AF8A:
Saginaw, Gratiot, Montcalm, Mecosta, Isabella, Midland, Newaygo, Muskegon,
Osceola, Mason, Lake, Manistee, Clare, Glad, Bay, Genesee, Livingston,
Washtenaw, Monroe
K5OT:
Baraga, Houghton, Ontonogon, Gogebic, Iron, Dickenson, Menominee
K8CC:
Presque Isle, Alpena, Alcona, Iosco, Arenac, Bay, Saginaw, Tuscola, Huron,
Sanilac, St. Clair, Macomb, Lapeer, Genesee, Shiawassee, Ingham,
Livingston, Oakland, Wayne, Monroe, Lenawee, Washtenaw
K8IR:
Dickinson, Iron, Gogebic, Ontonagon, Houghton, Keweenaw, Baraga, Marquette,
Alger, Delta, Menominee
K8MR:
Bay, Arenac, Gladwin, Ogemaw, Roscommon, Crawford, Oscoda, Montmorency,
Otsego, Cheboygan, Emmet, Charlevoix, Antrim, Kalkaska, Grand
Traverse, Wexford, Missaukee, Osceola, Clare, Isabella, Gratiot, Clinton,
Ingham, Livingston, Washtenaw
KU8E:
Monroe, Lenawee, Hillsdale, Jackson, Branch, St Joseph, Cass, Berrien, Van
Buren, Kalamazoo, Calhoun, Barry, Eaton, Ingham, Livingston
N8FYL:
Route TBD
W1NN:
Ottawa, Allegan, Kent, Ionia, Barry, Eaton, Clinton, Shiawassee, Ingham,
Livingston, Oakland, Wayne, Washtenaw
W8UE:
Delta, Alger, Marquette, Schoolcraft, Luce, Chippewa, Mackinaw, Emmet,
Cheboygan, Otsego, Charlevoix, Antrim, Kalkaska, Grand Traverse, Leelenaw,
Benzie, Manistee, Mason, Lake, Newago, Oceana, Mecosta, Isabella, Midland
WT9U:
Route is TBD
GL and hope to see everyone this weekend.
73,
Dave/K8CC
>From 4n1fg at infosky.net Fri Apr 19 10:36:36 2002
From: 4n1fg@infosky.net (Sasha Milojevic - 4N1FG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] YUDX Contest
Message-ID: <004901c1e774$faef3d90$0c67fac3@sasha>
Hallo dear friends and contesters,
I would like to invite you to participate in YUDX Contest that will take
place on next weekend, April 20/21, Saturday 12:00 UTC - Sunday 12:00 UTC.
Complete rules and software you can find on http://yudx.net
73 de 4N1FG, Sasha
4n1fg@qsl.net
>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Fri Apr 19 12:38:06 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (Timo)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #6
References: <00b501c1e747$09ec4d20$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Message-ID: <002701c1e77d$875e0a60$a3c5f83e@tklimoff>
> OH1F
>
> There were 20 total spots of OH1F during the WPX contest.
> Four of those spots came via IRC/DX Summit - three of
> the calls were unique spotters:
>
> K2FGY 213582 OH1F Sun Mar 31 16:04:00 2002
> K3IUP 21379 OH1F Sat Mar 30 17:29:00 2002
> K8AQW 21379 OH1F Sat Mar 30 17:04:00 2002
>
> All three of these US calls are listed as inactive.
This is very interesting because a club station OH1F has no access to IRC/DX
Summit ( = no self spotting possible via this route). So the most interesting
question is: why on Earth someone spots us with most likely fake callsign but
not with his/her own call? (Maybe SWL?)
Timo OH1NOA
one of OH1F (ES9C in WPX)
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Fri Apr 19 12:25:16 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r thanks
Message-ID: <000c01c1e794$e23a4450$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Thanks for all the comments on so2r equipment, there are of course too
many replies to respond to each one directly. Hopefully I will get to
read through them all and summarize here or on my web site shortly.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Fri Apr 19 09:08:58 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FW: nice work!
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEGGDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
-----Original Message-----
From: jljarvis [mailto:jljarvis@adelphia.net]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:08 AM
To: jdup@jdupree.com
Subject: nice work!
Jamie/NS3T,
Not very many guys have the capability to do the search/analysis
you did...and of those, few would take the time. Nice bit of work.
What this does is set a standard for the contest committees...if
they choose to go there....for the kind of analysis which is possible.
The only 'weak' spot in it is identifying calls which are 'active'...
and I would assume that contest committees would draw up on log
submissions as well as buckmaster, or other reporting services.
What your data makes abundantly clear, is that there is a relatively
high level of packet piracy going on. The potential is there for this
to increase.
This would seem to be difficult ground upon which to formulate
competitive policy. Want your chief rival DQ'd? Spot 'im!
For that matter...and this is another thread....want your chief rival's
rate to drop? Spot 'im!
Jim Jarvis, N2EA
>From robert.chandler at sympatico.ca Fri Apr 19 09:37:28 2002
From: robert.chandler@sympatico.ca (Bob Chandler, VE3SRE)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ONTARIO QSO PARTY - THIS WEEKEND!
Message-ID: <010201c1e79e$f762f070$f0b9fea9@CATDISH>
Hi!
The 6th Annual Ontario QSO Party takes place this
weekend April 20-21st starting at 1800 UTC Saturday
running to 1800 UTC Sunday sponsored by the
Ontario DX Association.
Details are available at http://www.odxa.on.ca/oqphome.html
Files are available for TR-log, NA-log, N1MM's new logging
programme and Log-EQF. As well VE3SYB has
developed a logging programme called "OQP-log"
specifically for this contest.
CU on the bands!
73 de Bob VE3SRE
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>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Fri Apr 19 07:13:04 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
In-Reply-To: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20020419131304.17022.qmail@web13304.mail.yahoo.com>
Ahh, well. Someone failed to READ all of NS3T's
comments concerning his intent and purpose for
the postings, it seems.
I did not read NS3T's comments as flames,
attempts to engage in a witch hunt or anything
like that.
I saw it as an attempt to provide data and some
kind of REASONABLE thought and analysis as to the
WHAT behind the WHY.
ALthough I'm not an analyst, I found it useful
for thought and consideration as I'm sure others
did as well.
Thanks, NS3T, for the info.
73
Chuck K3FT
========================================
There's an old saying.. 'You don't like what you
hear (read) on the radio.. spin the dial (hit
delete)' HI!
-......"This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not
> condone using "fake" calls for spotting, but,
> I'm sure there are better things to talk about
> than this BS.
>
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>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Apr 19 09:28:47 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
In-Reply-To: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204190819300.9820-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 ki9a@aol.com wrote:
> #2 & #3,"unique" spots, inactive calls, blah,blah,blah.
>
> Is this really going to make or break contesting?
>
> DO THE RULES STATE YOU NEED TO USE YOUR OWN CALL TO PUT *INTERNET*, yes,
> INTERNET spots up??
>
> This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not condone using "fake" calls for
> spotting, but, I'm sure there are better things to talk about than this BS.
>
> Again folks, you don't need to correctly ID on the internet spots, errr,
> maybe they changed the rules? Maybe I will spot guys during the next contest
> using the word MOE or CURLEY instead of my own call, I'm sure NS3T will drive
> himself nuts trying to figure if MOE is still active? ;-)
>
> 73-Chuck KI9A
What happened to SHEMP? :-)
I agree; this whole thing is pretty much pointless. No one is going to be
able to prove anything out of it; possibly some of the stations who in
fact did only spot one callsign once during the contest will be offended.
And what constitutes an "inactive station"? Who decides that? I would go
through the effort of contacting each and verifying he/she wasn't in the
contest and didn't spot anybody before making such a broad statement. And
again, it's going to be difficult or impossible to determine and prove who
did make the spot if it was with a fake callsign.
I only made about 10 QSO's during WPX SSB because I lost my voice due to a
virus. I didn't send in a log. I may have spotted somene during that
time; does that make me a suspected villain? Does that make me an
"inactive station"?
Let's discuss something else. Who's going to be in the TARA PSK Rumble
this weekend?
73, Zack W9SZ
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Fri Apr 19 08:30:28 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
References: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00d301c1e7a6$5f1f9fe0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
> This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not condone using "fake" calls for
spotting, but, I'm sure there are better things to talk about than this BS.
Jamie - I on the other hand think your analysis is intriguing and
insightful. We need a lot more of this type of analysis to shed light on the
actual activities and fundamental nature of contesting. I suspect that only
detailed empirical analysis not hearsay will be the only way we can move
amateur radio contesting to a higher plane that it is currently on.
I am still studying you finding. Keep up the good work and keep us informed!
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From k2kw at prodigy.net Fri Apr 19 08:02:02 2002
From: k2kw@prodigy.net (KEN SILVERMAN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DX Holiday Web Page - Major Update
Message-ID: <009c01c1e7aa$c9ee9fc0$97d3fea9@a>
I am pleased to announce the latest update to DX Holiday www.dxholiday.com,
your best source for DXpedition information on Rent-a-QTHs, Ham Friendly
Locations, and Club stations.
This update includes changes to over 55 DXCC Entities.
3B8 3B9 3DA0 3W 6Y 7P 9M2 9M6 9Q A2 A3
A5 C9 CE0 CY9 D4 DU FG FM GJ GW HC8
HI HL HR J6 JW JX K KH0 KH4 KH6 LX LY
OH0 SM SV T7 T88 T9 TG TI TI9 TK TU UT
V2 V5 VK9X YK YU Z2 ZK1 ZS
There are some new Rent-a-QTH additions in: FM, V2, A5, SM, LY, and the KH0
location was improved. Unfortunately we have lost Rent-a-QTH's in:
KH4 and A35. (KH4 is no longer open to the public)
Thanks to all those who submitted information. I must also apologize for
the long awaited update, but life events didn't leave much time for ham
radio since I started working in August 2001. (That was the date of the
last update). Monthly updates will continue again.
If you've been on a recent DXpedition, please send me details of your trip
so others can benefit from your experience!
73, Kenny K2KW
www.dxholiday.com
>From wd3q at erols.com Fri Apr 19 08:19:34 2002
From: wd3q@erols.com (Eric Rosenberg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
Message-ID: <190402109.26373@webbox.com>
When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of my CQWW logs,
I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN information.
I may have gotten that email and subsequent information, but
if I did, I no longer have it.
How can I get it (again)?
Eric W3DQ
Washington DC
>From paspe at mega.ist.utl.pt Fri Apr 19 16:30:51 2002
From: paspe@mega.ist.utl.pt (Pedro Antonio De Sousa Pedroso)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ certificates
In-Reply-To: <E16yHCR-0002by-00@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10204191529370.28588-100000@mega>
I am still waiting for a WPX award from CQ WW WPX CW 1999
.... never understood why it is taking so long.
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Merrimon Crawford Pladsen wrote:
> From: Merrimon Crawford Pladsen <ab0mv@ix.netcom.com>
> To: CQ-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ certificates
>
> I know people still waiting for certificates/plaques from 1999 CQ contests.
> 4 years is too long. Those responsible will not respond to repeated
> questions via email or snail mail. Even a simple response that those
> responsible & CQ contest committee are aware of the delay and are trying to
> do something about it would be better than refusing any response to
> certificate/plaque winners!
> 73
> Merri AB0MV
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Fri Apr 19 11:01:32 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] It's All in the Mind, You Know
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020419094646.00b809f8@pop.pdq.net>
Packet thread has been interesting to say the least.
Still, Ham Radio is just a hobby, and hobbies are to enjoy.
Self spotting.
Clandestine spotting.
Buddy repeat spotting.
QSO begging spotting.
QLF.
QRQ.
QRS.
F1, F2, F3, F4 - Can't copy CW.
F1, F2, F3, F4 - Can't send CW.
Frequency police.
Scoldings for not using split.
Deliberate QRM.
Net ownership of frequencies.
Contesters destroying telephone quality SSB chit chat of rag chewers.
Hemorrhoid, aches and pains, and medication QSO content.
Political QSO's.
High Power.
Low Power.
Big antennae.
No antennae.
Stations with maintenance crews.
Stations hiding in a closet.
TVI.
BCI.
RFI.
Front Row Monkeys.
Back Row Monkeys.
Audio adjustment # 2437.
Funny how some things bug me, and some things make me laugh.
Guess I better to just learn to laugh more - at more,
and get bugged less - at less.
Maybe then, I'm gonna find I enjoy my hobby every bit as much as I seem to
keep telling myself.
Who else wants to join me in trying to enjoy the hobby enough to get past
most of the above list?
I really do like to laugh.
Maybe ham radio and laughter would make for a great day on a repeated basis.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Apr 19 11:23:05 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
In-Reply-To: <20020419131304.17022.qmail@web13304.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204191014570.13474-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Chuck wrote:
> Ahh, well. Someone failed to READ all of NS3T's
> comments concerning his intent and purpose for
> the postings, it seems.
>
> I did not read NS3T's comments as flames,
> attempts to engage in a witch hunt or anything
> like that.
>
> I saw it as an attempt to provide data and some
> kind of REASONABLE thought and analysis as to the
> WHAT behind the WHY.
>
> ALthough I'm not an analyst, I found it useful
> for thought and consideration as I'm sure others
> did as well.
>
> Thanks, NS3T, for the info.
>
> 73
>
> Chuck K3FT
I had a misunderstanding. Jamie pointed out to me that "inactive" didn't
mean that the station wasn't in the contest, but rather that the callsign
hadn't been issued according to recent databases. That makes the whole
thing much more intriguing. I'm now among the curious!
Zack W9SZ
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Fri Apr 19 09:35:19 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
References: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004901c1e7b7$d3e0c8c0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
The crazy nature of practically every open e-mail reflector can be
blamed for some of the annoyance we all feel about the postings
we receive from time to time. We all want to present and
sometimes promote our own views and in so doing we might even
try to suppress those views that run counter to our own. It's the
nature of reflectors.
Reflectors do provide a valuable forum for our ideas, and the
contesting reflector can get particularly ugly sometimes simply
because it is just about the best way to promote new ideas
about "fairness" in contests. NS3T was clearly a little bit wild
with his early posts on this subject, and a number of innocents
were abused in the process. The "witch hunt" comparison is
a good one.
We do need to reexamine the rules of contests from time to time,
and provide new suggestions as to how contesting can be made
"fair" again when we discover new technologies that are legal by
the "word of the law" but are nonetheless "cheating" when an
honest evaluation is made. This year it's the net, next year it
could be something we haven't thought of yet.
We can all agree that the demon that NS3T was attacking
deserves to be vanquished, even though we'd like to see an
approach to this battle that would inflict less collateral damage.
----- Original Message -----
From: <ki9a@aol.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 20:04
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
> #2 & #3,"unique" spots, inactive calls, blah,blah,blah.
>
> Is this really going to make or break contesting?
>
> DO THE RULES STATE YOU NEED TO USE YOUR OWN CALL TO PUT *INTERNET*, yes,
INTERNET spots up??
>
> This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not condone using "fake" calls for
spotting, but, I'm sure there are better things to talk about than this BS.
>
> Again folks, you don't need to correctly ID on the internet spots, errr,
maybe they changed the rules? Maybe I will spot guys during the next contest
using the word MOE or CURLEY instead of my own call, I'm sure NS3T will
drive himself nuts trying to figure if MOE is still active? ;-)
>
> 73-Chuck KI9A
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>From dennis.mcalpine at verizon.net Fri Apr 19 12:40:19 2002
From: dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net (Dennis McAlpine)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FW: nice work!
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEGGDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <00b901c1e7b8$83186fa0$e1e453a2@oemcomputer>
Jamie.NS3T,
Add my compliments for your efforts as well. It may not prove anythin but
if there's enough smoke, there might just be a fire there somewhere.
For those who are critical of this "BS" ,as one arrogant writer called it, I
remind you of the furor that N6AA et al created when he started the whole
concept of "uniques, uniques + 1, etc". Yet, as a result of that I would
guess that the accuracy of logging has gone up dramatically and most of us
have become better operators as a result of paying more attention to what we
are doing.
Go back even before then to the times when certain contesters thought it was
smart to run excessive power to make their life easier. We all knew who
they were. For example, how many W6s from CA can run a pile-up of East
Coast stations on 40 cw at 1400 EST with a s9 signal with 100 watts? or
even a KW? Eventually, peer pressure forced most of those guys to get with
the program and run legit power.
The type of analysis you are doing may well cause the same sort of reaction.
The people who are illegally (yes, the rules do prohibit such spots)
spotting themselves under the guise of someone else's call or a made-up one
can no longer hide under the rock. Once they are in the sunlight maybe they
will get the bright idea that it's time to cease and desist.
Keep it up.
73,
Dennis K2SX
----- Original Message -----
From: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@adelphia.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:08 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FW: nice work!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jljarvis [mailto:jljarvis@adelphia.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:08 AM
> To: jdup@jdupree.com
> Subject: nice work!
>
>
> Jamie/NS3T,
>
> Not very many guys have the capability to do the search/analysis
> you did...and of those, few would take the time. Nice bit of work.
>
> What this does is set a standard for the contest committees...if
> they choose to go there....for the kind of analysis which is possible.
>
> The only 'weak' spot in it is identifying calls which are 'active'...
> and I would assume that contest committees would draw up on log
> submissions as well as buckmaster, or other reporting services.
>
> What your data makes abundantly clear, is that there is a relatively
> high level of packet piracy going on. The potential is there for this
> to increase.
>
> This would seem to be difficult ground upon which to formulate
> competitive policy. Want your chief rival DQ'd? Spot 'im!
>
> For that matter...and this is another thread....want your chief rival's
> rate to drop? Spot 'im!
>
> Jim Jarvis, N2EA
>
>
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>From KI9A at aol.com Fri Apr 19 13:57:41 2002
From: KI9A@aol.com (KI9A@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
Message-ID: <12f.1015ddb5.29f1a685@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/19/02 11:53:05 AM Central Daylight Time,
SteveBaron@StarLinX.com writes:
You seem to have missed the whole point.
>
Nope. Not at all.
The point is it would be darn near impossible to stop packet cheats. Period,
especially INTERNET spots.
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>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Fri Apr 19 14:14:05 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Folks,
While this may be a tiresome topic for some, I, for one,
would like to see some fact-based vision applied to the
process of rulemaking. NS3T's data makes a giant step in
that regard.
As Zack/KI9A pointed out, Manny, Moe and Curley can spot legally
via Internet. There are third-party message issues afoot when
those spots are absorbed into RF distribution systems, however.
(Here comes David Popkin!)
I can see a whole landscape of possible policy choices adopted by
contest sponsors, and packet system operators in response to this
situation.
Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
I have what I believe is an informed and reasoned justification
for this recommendation. Short form: It's not a benefit,if
everyone can do it; it may reduce rates. If in doubt, see K1AR's
column in the May CQ, reference N2RM.
Jim/N2EA
>From k7gt at attbi.com Fri Apr 19 18:42:41 2002
From: k7gt@attbi.com (k7gt@attbi.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Any serious contest loggers for LINUX??
Message-ID: <20020419174244.FGSF1143.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
I am a very casual contester currently using TRLog
(which I like very much) on an older DOS PC. Looking
forward a few years, maintaining that old PC and its
ilk is going to be quite problematic. Thus I wonder
if there have been any serious efforts to write up
a contest logger that would function well on a modern
very fast PC running LINUX (as opposed to Windows XXX).
I do mostly CW for both regular operating and contests,
so superb CW keying from the program is a MUST. I am
wondering if LINUX running on, say, a 1.6 GHZ PC might be
free enough from system interrupts to key a rig. Or,
another direction, could it drive a W5XD-style SO2R
control/keyer
box?
I am NOT a LINUX geek but have used it casually at work
along with UNIX on the workstations there.
If this is previously walked turf, I apologize in advance
as I am a newbie here.
73 Allan K7GT
(contest under K6TTX)
Pleasanton CA
>From dhenderson at arrl.org Fri Apr 19 15:58:39 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL Offers Members Expanded Contest Results on the Web
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B7810@KAHLESS>
ARRL Debuts Expanded Online Contest Coverage
The ARRL is proud to announce the introduction of expanded online coverage
of ARRL contests effective April 19, 2002. The URL for expanded ARRL Contest
coverage is http://www.arrl.org/contests/results/ . ARRL staff members and
volunteers have spent many months in planning and developing this expanded
online resource to provide more detailed, in-depth coverage of ARRL events
on the Web. Expanded ARRL Contest coverage online supplements coverage in
QST.
The first contest results presented in the expanded online format are the
2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes, CW. The online presentation features:
? An interactive, searchable database of the line scores. In addition to the
information normally presented in QST, you can see band-by-band QSO
breakdowns, hours operated, check and club affiliation for each entry. The
database is searchable by call sign, entry class, ARRL Section or Division,
and club. You can sort the results by many criteria, including call, score,
QSOs, multipliers, or band QSOs.
? Expanded Soapbox comments. In the initial presentation, Soapbox comments
from all of the electronic Cabrillo entries are included. For future
contests, the Soapbox tools will be available for entrants to add their
comments or photos immediately after the contest.
? An expanded version of the contest write-up that appears in QST. Written
by noted competitor Randy Thompson, K5ZD, the expanded writeup goes into
much more detail than the typical QST presentation. Also included are
station descriptions for the top 10 entrants in each single-op category, a
sidebar story about the log checking process by K5ZD and a sidebar about the
history of the November Sweepstakes by Doug Grant, K1DG.
? Updated contest category records. Ken Adams, K5KA, and Dave Clemons,
K1VUT, have teamed up to provided updated November Sweepstakes records for
each entry class and ARRL Division and Section, as well as overall category
records.
The new features add to existing online resources for contesters, including
complete ARRL contest rules and forms, the ARRL Contest Calendar, and the
Contest Corral listing of contests throughout the year. ARRL Members may
also subscribe to the ARRL Contest Rate Sheet, a biweekly e-mail newsletter
that debuted in March 2002.
Access to the extended coverage is available to ARRL members. To visit the
site, you need to be logged on to the ARRL website with your user name and
password. If you have not registered, you may do so online at
www.arrl.org/members. As has been our practice for several years, non-ARRL
members will continue to be able to view a PDF file of the QST results
article from the main ARRL Contest Branch Web page at www.arrl.org/contests
approximately 30 days after the issue of QST in which it appears has been
published.
ARRL Contests Online is considered a "work in progress." The online
presentation will be flexible, allowing us to improve the site as it
develops. As new contest results become available, they will be added to the
site. As you explore the site, we welcome your feedback. You may contact
contests@arrl.org with your comments or suggestions. You may also contact us
by phone at 860-594-0232.
>From geoiii at kkn.net Fri Apr 19 13:38:48 2002
From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III - K5TR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>; from
jljarvis on Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <20020419123848.C8470@loja.kkn.net>
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400, jljarvis wrote:
>
> Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
>
Yes.
In fact I will go a step further and recommend that we
also modify the contest logging programs to do a
self spot anytime you call CQ.
(This idea was thought up by N5KO about 7 months ago.)
--
George Fremin III - K5TR
geoiii@kkn.net
http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>From w7zr at citlink.net Fri Apr 19 13:47:16 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] BIG PRICE REDUCTION!!
Message-ID: <000901c1e7db$2b61d350$35d1fea9@N1>
I have just done a major price reduction on my QTH in Mexico. Great DX and
Contest location. Take a look at www.w7zr.com
73
Dick W7ZR XE2DV
Price Reduced!!
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>From kr6x at kr6x.com Fri Apr 19 14:45:17 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
<20020419123848.C8470@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <001e01c1e7e3$27fc6790$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
This is a neat idea if we are trying to push the guys still using
pencils out of contesting. That would probably include
newcomers to contesting, as well as N6PN.
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Fremin III - K5TR" <geoiii@kkn.net>
To: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 12:38
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400, jljarvis wrote:
> >
> > Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> > Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
> >
>
> Yes.
>
> In fact I will go a step further and recommend that we
> also modify the contest logging programs to do a
> self spot anytime you call CQ.
>
> (This idea was thought up by N5KO about 7 months ago.)
>
> --
> George Fremin III - K5TR
> geoiii@kkn.net
> http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>
>
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>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Fri Apr 19 17:57:24 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL Offers Members Expanded Contest Results on the Web
Message-ID: <8c.17170751.29f1deb4@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/19/2002 7:26:39 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
dhenderson@arrl.org writes:
> ARRL Debuts Expanded Online Contest Coverage
>
Dan, all I can say is WOW. Great work, and tnx.
73, George
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From k2qmf at juno.com Fri Apr 19 18:51:51 2002
From: k2qmf@juno.com (k2qmf@juno.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Message-ID: <20020419.175204.-861739.0.K2QMF@juno.com>
This is a great idea!!
This would stop all this foolishness and maybe make contesting
a little more "FUN". After all isn't that what ham radio is all
about????
73, Ted K2QMF. See ya at Dayton for some fun...
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 12:38:48 -0700 George Fremin III - K5TR
<geoiii@kkn.net> writes:
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400, jljarvis wrote:
> >
> > Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> > Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
>
> >
>
> Yes.
>
> In fact I will go a step further and recommend that we
> also modify the contest logging programs to do a
> self spot anytime you call CQ.
>
> (This idea was thought up by N5KO about 7 months ago.)
>
> --
> George Fremin III - K5TR
> geoiii@kkn.net
> http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>
>
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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>From kk4ta at STRATO.NET Fri Apr 19 19:16:34 2002
From: kk4ta@STRATO.NET (Tom and Adela)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Stepp-IR 3 element Beam
In-Reply-To: <026c01c1e736$25a97f80$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <BIEGKCDKMCJPDIEONEMJCEGECCAA.kk4ta@strato.net>
Hello All,
Is anyone out there using the Stepp-IR beam, or have you seen any reviews
other than the ones in e-ham which I have read.
I am soooooo close to ordering one, but am still somewhat hesitant. Any
opinions from anyone?
Their site is http://www.fluidmotion.ws/index.htm
Tom
KK4TA
>From K7LXC at aol.com Fri Apr 19 21:06:08 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Stepp-IR 3 element Beam
Message-ID: <15f.c74e93c.29f20af0@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/19/02 3:25:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kk4ta@STRATO.NET
writes:
> Is anyone out there using the Stepp-IR beam, or have you seen any reviews
> other than the ones in e-ham which I have read.
>
> I am soooooo close to ordering one, but am still somewhat hesitant. Any
> opinions from anyone?
Check out the TowerTalk archives at www.contesting.com. Go to the List
Search and put in <towertalk stepp>.
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
TOWER TECH
>From ha5pp at yahoo.com Fri Apr 19 22:29:05 2002
From: ha5pp@yahoo.com (Zoltan Szoke)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
In-Reply-To: <001e01c1e7e3$27fc6790$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Message-ID: <20020420042905.25369.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi,
Yes. All contesters (callsign) will be on culsters.
The contest program will make a callsign-map per band.
We can see the call-map on monitor. We will no need
any hunting (mults, etc.). The logging program will
know what we needed. Perhaps a "help-program" will be
able to make some important mults for us WITHOUT US.
And finally we will no need to fight 40-48 hours non
stop, it will be enough to check our PC by hours. Or
it will be enough to push a BIG ENTER at the start of
the contest...(??) This is the future of contesting.
73
Zoli
HA5PP
--- "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com> wrote:
> This is a neat idea if we are trying to push the
> guys still using
> pencils out of contesting. That would probably
> include
> newcomers to contesting, as well as N6PN.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Fremin III - K5TR" <geoiii@kkn.net>
> To: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@adelphia.net>
> Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 12:38
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting
> 'witch-hunt'
>
>
> > On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400, jljarvis
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Want to stop packet piracy and perceived
> cheating?
> > > Make self-spotting legal, for any station
> allowed to use packet.
> > >
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > In fact I will go a step further and recommend
> that we
> > also modify the contest logging programs to do a
> > self spot anytime you call CQ.
> >
> > (This idea was thought up by N5KO about 7 months
> ago.)
> >
> > --
> > George Fremin III - K5TR
> > geoiii@kkn.net
> > http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >
>
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
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>
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Sat Apr 20 09:11:53 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New ARRL Web Coverage of Contests
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020420074959.025f9400@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
The new approach to covering contests is excellent -- compliments to N1ND,
K5ZD and all others involved in the project. I particularly enjoyed the
ability to sort and display line scores by various parameters, and the
presentation of band-by-band breakouts for everyone. The equipment page on
stations in the top ten boxes was also a welcome addition. Finally, I
think the new transparency as to which stations counted toward which club
score is a welcome addition.
There are just two things I would like to see added. The major one would
be on-line access to my own set of the reports described by K5ZD in his
sidebar "What Price Accuracy." I know that in the past these have been
available by e-mail request to N1ND, but frankly I hesitate to make the
request when I know how few and how busy folks in the Contest Branch
are. CQWW has made this information available, and since N6TR wrote the
software for both I'd hope that most of the work has already been done.
The minor request would be to be able to sort line scores by region as well
as Division and Section.
A great start!
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From maposte at hotmail.com Sat Apr 20 13:45:57 2002
From: maposte@hotmail.com (Fred NA2U)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [3830] ARRL Offers Members Expanded Contest Results
on the Web
Message-ID: <F87zadTMVwVn20lbhsK0000441a@hotmail.com>
Dan, what a GREAT source of contest results! But, PLEASE don't stop
publishing individual contest results in QST.
73,
Fred/NA2U
CWMAN...I'D RATHER WORK CW!!!
"Je mange donc je suis."
>From: "Henderson, Dan N1ND" <dhenderson@arrl.org>
>To: "'3830@contesting.com'" <3830@contesting.com>, "'cq-contest'"
><cq-contest@contesting.com>, "'VHF List'" <vhf@w6yx.Stanford.EDU>,
>"'VHF Contesting.com'" <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
>Subject: [3830] ARRL Offers Members Expanded Contest Results on the Web
>
>
>ARRL Debuts Expanded Online Contest Coverage
>
>The ARRL is proud to announce the introduction of expanded online coverage
>of ARRL contests effective April 19, 2002. The URL for expanded ARRL
>Contest
>coverage is http://www.arrl.org/contests/results/ . ARRL staff members and
>volunteers have spent many months in planning and developing this expanded
>online resource to provide more detailed, in-depth coverage of ARRL events
>on the Web. Expanded ARRL Contest coverage online supplements coverage in
>QST.
>
>The first contest results presented in the expanded online format are the
>2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes, CW. The online presentation features:
>
>Ø An interactive, searchable database of the line scores. In addition to
>the
>information normally presented in QST, you can see band-by-band QSO
>breakdowns, hours operated, check and club affiliation for each entry. The
>database is searchable by call sign, entry class, ARRL Section or Division,
>and club. You can sort the results by many criteria, including call, score,
>QSOs, multipliers, or band QSOs.
>
>Ø Expanded Soapbox comments. In the initial presentation, Soapbox comments
>from all of the electronic Cabrillo entries are included. For future
>contests, the Soapbox tools will be available for entrants to add their
>comments or photos immediately after the contest.
>
>Ø An expanded version of the contest write-up that appears in QST. Written
>by noted competitor Randy Thompson, K5ZD, the expanded writeup goes into
>much more detail than the typical QST presentation. Also included are
>station descriptions for the top 10 entrants in each single-op category, a
>sidebar story about the log checking process by K5ZD and a sidebar about
>the
>history of the November Sweepstakes by Doug Grant, K1DG.
>
>Ø Updated contest category records. Ken Adams, K5KA, and Dave Clemons,
>K1VUT, have teamed up to provided updated November Sweepstakes records for
>each entry class and ARRL Division and Section, as well as overall category
>records.
>
>The new features add to existing online resources for contesters, including
>complete ARRL contest rules and forms, the ARRL Contest Calendar, and the
>Contest Corral listing of contests throughout the year. ARRL Members may
>also subscribe to the ARRL Contest Rate Sheet, a biweekly e-mail newsletter
>that debuted in March 2002.
>
>Access to the extended coverage is available to ARRL members. To visit the
>site, you need to be logged on to the ARRL website with your user name and
>password. If you have not registered, you may do so online at
>www.arrl.org/members. As has been our practice for several years, non-ARRL
>members will continue to be able to view a PDF file of the QST results
>article from the main ARRL Contest Branch Web page at www.arrl.org/contests
>approximately 30 days after the issue of QST in which it appears has been
>published.
>
>ARRL Contests Online is considered a "work in progress." The online
>presentation will be flexible, allowing us to improve the site as it
>develops. As new contest results become available, they will be added to
>the
>site. As you explore the site, we welcome your feedback. You may contact
>contests@arrl.org with your comments or suggestions. You may also contact
>us
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Sat Apr 20 05:53:59 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
Message-ID: <000901c1e86f$8972caa0$6941fa43@computer>
How can I get one for SSCW and find the UBN for CQ and ARRL??
Not a computer geek/guru
QUACK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 15:19
Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
>
> When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of my CQWW logs,
> I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN information.
>
>
> I may have gotten that email and subsequent information, but
> if I did, I no longer have it.
>
> How can I get it (again)?
>
> Eric W3DQ
> Washington DC
>
>
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Sat Apr 20 05:47:56 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] It's All in the Mind, You Know
Message-ID: <000801c1e86f$880aaf20$6941fa43@computer>
QUACKS
Bob your taking all these treads TOO Serious, get a grip and Hang on,
Somone will now make a tread of your complaint.
73 TU Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob, N5RP" <N5RP@pdq.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 16:01
Subject: [CQ-Contest] It's All in the Mind, You Know
> Packet thread has been interesting to say the least.
>
> Still, Ham Radio is just a hobby, and hobbies are to enjoy.
>
> Self spotting.
> Clandestine spotting.
> Buddy repeat spotting.
> QSO begging spotting.
> QLF.
> QRQ.
> QRS.
> F1, F2, F3, F4 - Can't copy CW.
> F1, F2, F3, F4 - Can't send CW.
> Frequency police.
> Scoldings for not using split.
> Deliberate QRM.
> Net ownership of frequencies.
> Contesters destroying telephone quality SSB chit chat of rag chewers.
> Hemorrhoid, aches and pains, and medication QSO content.
> Political QSO's.
> High Power.
> Low Power.
> Big antennae.
> No antennae.
> Stations with maintenance crews.
> Stations hiding in a closet.
> TVI.
> BCI.
> RFI.
> Front Row Monkeys.
> Back Row Monkeys.
> Audio adjustment # 2437.
>
> Funny how some things bug me, and some things make me laugh.
> Guess I better to just learn to laugh more - at more,
> and get bugged less - at less.
> Maybe then, I'm gonna find I enjoy my hobby every bit as much as I seem to
> keep telling myself.
>
> Who else wants to join me in trying to enjoy the hobby enough to get past
> most of the above list?
>
> I really do like to laugh.
> Maybe ham radio and laughter would make for a great day on a repeated
basis.
> Bob Perring
> ...........................................
> Amateur Radio Station N5RP
> mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
> N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>
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>From K4tmc at aol.com Sat Apr 20 11:31:32 2002
From: K4tmc@aol.com (K4tmc@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] May QST arrives
Message-ID: <b2.a470a1c.29f2d5c4@aol.com>
A stop by the PO box this morning resulted in the latest issues of QST.
Front cover photo of the W8ZR EZ-Tuner; with this issue containing Part 2 of
the related article.
Contest related items:
The EZ-Tuner, Part 2
A DXpedition to Niger (during the ARRL DX SSB Contest)
A Novice Contester Gets His
DXing with Polar Bears (and 10 Meter contesting)
The Evolution of the World Radiosport Team Championships
Product Review - ICOM IC-746PRO transceiver
Results - 2001 ARRL International EME Competition
Rules - ARRL Field Day 2002 and June VHF QSO Party
Other interesting items:
It Seems To Us (editorial) Ever Upward (the quest for higher and higher
frequencies)
The St. Loius Switcher (13.8 V at 20 A from a PC power supply)
A Microphone Adapter for the IC-706
A 6-Meter Quad-Turnstile
One Stealthy Delta (an HF Delta Loop)
Somewhere There's a Good Home for a Boat Anchor
What Can You Do with a Dip Meter?
Hints & Kinks - Coiling wire or rope without kinks; FT1000 for digital mode
USB/LSB
Happenings - ARRL Asks FCC to Eliminate, "Refarm" Novice CW Bands
How's DX? - More on the Pileups and Behavior
The World Above 50 MHz - The Problem with DX Records
Old Radio - Tube Lore (the 813)
Ads:
Inside-cover, full-page, bright orange ad for the Florida QSO Party (OK, this
is not the April issue)
Am-Com and High Sierra have a combined full-page ad for the Am-Com Antenna
Controller and the HS-1500MKII Antenna.
SGC has full-page ad for their new product, the STEALTH Kit (Smart Tuning
Emergency Antenna Loop Tactical Hf), which is basically an SG-237 tuner, 80
ft of wire, and some nylon rope.
Radio Shack has a cute ad for their new dual band HT. It is in one of those
white foam trays that you buy meat in at the local supermarket,
shrink-wrapped, and with a label stating "our ham is 100% FCC choice".
The ARRL has a new book - Simple and Fun Antennas for Hams.
Alpha Power has ad with picture of their new ALPHA 6 six-meter 1500W
amplifier.
Yaesu's inside-backcover-page ad shows their new "ultra-rugged submersible
tri-band magnesium handie" labeled Submersible VX-7R.
How long before we will have an "ultra-rugged submersible magnesium
FT1000MP-MKV Field Plus"? Aren't island Dxpeditioners demanding something
like this? And with its own built-in water-activated EPIRB!
73 & High Rates,
Henry Pollock - K4TMC
Raleigh, NC
Oops, don't forget the OJ QSO Party! Oops again; it's the Florida QSO Party!
OK JIm...go...
>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Sat Apr 20 08:42:12 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spotting
In-Reply-To: <20020420042905.25369.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020420144212.19523.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com>
Iassume the message about everyone self spotting
and allowing all to do this was in jest. I will
take it as such.
To cut back on the 'bogus spotting' perhaps a
good tack to take would be for the Internet
accessible spotting networks (and I guess the
other systems as well) to implement callsign
checks using current callsign resource checkers.
(QRZ/BUCKMASTER, registration by individual to
verify they arewho they say they are). I'm not a
progrmamerso I'll not even attempt to proffer a
suggestionon the 'how'. I leave that to the
pro's.
When you log in it checks your call against a
master list. If good...you get
through.Thisdoesn't stop the spoofer, but if it
is a problem, then there are tracing items which
can find out the where. It's not easy..but if we
start NOW.. we canimplement things and improve
them. Again, I'm not saying 'HOW' just offering
food for thought.
Spotting is here to stay. It's not going away and
itis a useful tool having value, indeed. Best we
can do with the genie that is well and good out
of the bottle is figure out a wayto manage and
manipulate it.
Just one small suggestion and idea.
best 73
CU in the Pileups!
Chuck K3FT
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>From n2mg at contesting.com Sat Apr 20 13:40:59 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
Message-ID:
<20020420124100.28192.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
For ARRL contests, email N1ND@arrl.org and request the
specific contest(s).
For CQWW, you were (should have been) sent instructions
in an email with the URL and an access number.
73 Mike N2MG
On Sat, 20 April 2002, "Rex Maner" wrote
>
> How can I get one for SSCW and find the UBN for CQ
and ARRL??
> Not a computer geek/guru
> QUACK
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 15:19
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN
Information
>
>
> >
> > When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of
my CQWW logs,
> > I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN
information.
> >
> >
> > I may have gotten that email and subsequent
information, but
> > if I did, I no longer have it.
> >
> > How can I get it (again)?
> >
> > Eric W3DQ
> > Washington DC
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Apr 20 19:08:16 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging
Message-ID: <025d01c1e8b9$4882a5c0$03010a0a@office1>
I've just been asked by my club's Field Day chairman to serve on the
computer/logging committee. First order of business is to decide on a
logging program for this year.
Two complications:
1) we have a blind amateur in the club, so a lot of Windows oriented
packages won't work because of problems with his text-to-voice hardware &
software
2) they would like to network the two or three operating positions
together.
So far, WriteLog has been suggested. Personally, I like CT but I know
networking it can be cranky. And we are going to talk to Tom N3EQF about
Log-EQF & Win-EQF in the next few days, when we can catch up to him
(advantage of him being a local!)
Any suggestions?
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
"There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
probably."
--John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 20 23:34:56 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #1
References: <009301c1e746$70c1f190$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Message-ID: <3CC1DF00.658759FD@harborside.com>
Jamie Dupree wrote:
>
> Contesters:
>
> This post begins a review of spots from the 2002 WPX SSB contest.
I was wondering, what happens if a QRP station uses packet
spotting. Does that automatically take him (or her) out of the
QRP category and put them in LP assisted? I don't think there is
such a thing as QRP assisted is there? 73
Tom W7WHY
>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 20 23:41:34 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <3CC1E08E.6B0E2AD5@harborside.com>
jljarvis wrote:
> Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
Or just forget about packet and do it without spotting at all.
No? Why not.
Tom W7WHY
>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 20 23:51:19 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
References: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204190819300.9820-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <3CC1E2D7.F8704B63@harborside.com>
Zack Widup wrote:
> And what constitutes an "inactive station"?
I would think the Buckmaster callsign lookup is a good spot to
start (where he got lots of his data). If there is no such
callsign issued, I'd be pretty sure it's "inactive."
Tom W7WHY
>From ve6jy at freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Sun Apr 21 00:35:34 2002
From: ve6jy@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (VE6JY Don Moman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging
References: <025d01c1e8b9$4882a5c0$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <003501c1e8bb$b192c980$ddcea1c6@ve6jy>
TRlog would be (and is) my choice. It's especially suited to field day since
it can run on a wide range of older machines and laptops and is very easy
to network and interface to the radios (be sure you have enough serial
ports - 2 per machine is handy. The intuitive use of the enter and
escape keys make for easy learning and logging for a new user. All files are
plain ascii txt so if you do have a problem with power or hd problems, it's
a lot easier to "fix" or recover a corrupted text file than a bin type. TR
is very bulletproof if you do have a power crash (who forgot to fuel the
genny?) which is another plus. Support from the author, N6TR and the TRlog
reflector is tops.
As a bonus, the free sample version supports Field day.
http://www.qth.com/tr/free.html
73 Don
VE6JY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 23:08
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging
> I've just been asked by my club's Field Day chairman to serve on the
> computer/logging committee. First order of business is to decide on a
> logging program for this year.
>
> Two complications:
>
> 1) we have a blind amateur in the club, so a lot of Windows oriented
> packages won't work because of problems with his text-to-voice hardware &
> software
>
> 2) they would like to network the two or three operating positions
> together.
>
> So far, WriteLog has been suggested. Personally, I like CT but I know
> networking it can be cranky. And we are going to talk to Tom N3EQF about
> Log-EQF & Win-EQF in the next few days, when we can catch up to him
> (advantage of him being a local!)
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "There's No Crying in Baseball!"
> -- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
>
> "There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
> probably."
> --John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
>
>
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>From k2qmf at juno.com Sat Apr 20 21:38:01 2002
From: k2qmf@juno.com (k2qmf@juno.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Message-ID: <20020420.204438.-88046435.0.K2QMF@juno.com>
Because it's more "FUN" to use packet for some of us...
K2QMF
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 22:41:34 +0100 Tom Osborne <w7why@harborside.com>
writes:
>
>
> jljarvis wrote:
>
> > Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> > Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
>
>
> Or just forget about packet and do it without spotting at all.
> No? Why not.
> Tom W7WHY
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>From wd3q at erols.com Sat Apr 20 23:19:35 2002
From: wd3q@erols.com (Eric Rosenberg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020420221834.009fb640@pop3.norton.antivirus>
This worked for me.
Thanks Steve for the suggestion, and Larry (N6TW) for the quick
response!
Eric W3DQ
Washington, DC
>Reply-To: "Steve Baron - KB3MM" <SteveBaron@StarLinX.com>
>From: "Steve Baron - KB3MM" <SteveBaron@StarLinX.com>
>To: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700
>
>Go to www.cqww.com and send an e-mail to N6TW (address on that page).
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
>To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 14:19
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
>
>
> >
> > When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of my CQWW logs,
> > I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN information.
> >
> > I may have gotten that email and subsequent information, but
> > if I did, I no longer have it.
> >
> > How can I get it (again)?
> >
> > Eric W3DQ
> > Washington DC
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>From k2kw at prodigy.net Sun Apr 21 01:02:22 2002
From: k2kw@prodigy.net (KEN SILVERMAN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Visalia Contest Dinner - It's not too late!
Message-ID: <002301c1e902$7e1694a0$97d3fea9@a>
We still have seats available for the Contest Dinner at Visalia! It's not
too late to join the fun. Dr. Beldar's been doing some last minute consumer
research, and his presentation on new contesting products of the future
should not be missed!
Please get your reservations into Tom, K5RC (below) ASAP. All dinner
reservations need to be done by Tuesday.
73, Kenny K2KW
----------------------
4th Annual International DX Convention Contest Dinner
Evening Events: Dinner, short contesting program, guest speaker, and door
prizes. Guest speaker: Dr Beldar - "Dr Beldar's Contest Emporium"
Products you are not likely to see at HRO!
Doors and cash bar open at 7:00 p.m. Dinner is served at 8:00 p.m. (Note:
This dinner is not part of the convention registration fee, and is a
separate function open to all who wish to join the fun.)
The dinner will be held in the Oak and Maple rooms at the Holiday Inn
Visalia, 9000 West Airport Drive, Visalia, CA
Many contesters from around the world have already made their reservations.
You don't want to miss this opportunity to meet and hang out with top
contesters and DXers!
Dinner Details:
Menu: Prime Rib of Beef -- $29.00 or Chicken Princess -- $23.00
Meals include: salad, entree, baked potato, green beans almondine, bread,
tea/coffee, chocolate mousse dessert and all taxes and gratuity. Chicken
Princess is a grilled chicken breast topped with asparagus, shrimp, and a
cream-wine sauce. Cash bar will remain open during dinner.
Tables are set in rounds of 10, no reserved seating.
Tickets: Deadline for ticket orders is Tuesday, April 23, 2002. Tickets are
not being sold at the door. Tickets will not be mailed, but will be held at
the door and available at 6pm, Friday, April 26, 2002.
You can only order tickets by calling, faxing, e-mailing or snail-mail to:
Tom Taormina, K5RC
Productivity Resources
PO Box 1126
Virginia City NV 89440
775-847-7929
775-847-7930 (FAX)
k5rc@aol.com
Payment Methods: Visa/MC/Amex (include expiration date, and name as it
appears on the card), checks, money order, or cash - sorry, no CODs. Credit
card billings will show up as "Productivity Resources".
Refund Policy: Dinner orders must be guaranteed with the hotel, so we
cannot offer refunds on or after Wednesday, April 24, 2002. You are free to
resell your dinner if you cannot make the event.
>From k1ir at designet.com Sun Apr 21 09:31:43 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] (no subject)
Message-ID: <1lorwrtb0j6ozq1.210420020831@designet-jsi>
Wayne,
A problem that occurs at only 200W will almost certainly be in the driven
element. You may have to take it down and find the loose hardware, bad
connection or clean up one of the loading coils, but you don't have to buy a
new antenna!
73,
Jim K1IR
[Towertalk] Hy=Gain 402BA-S
Wayne F. King wfking@worldnet.att.net
Sun, 21 Apr 2002 05:49:32 -0400
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HI Folks,
I have a HY-GAIN 402BA-S 40 meter 2 el beam. It works fine on RX and 100
watts TX. However it does not like high power anymore. Instant SWR
infinity with the PA on. Even at 200 watts it appears to arch over. As
long as I run less then 150 watts it's fine.
It's mounted at 110' and 15' above a Mosley Pro-57A. It's feed with 1/2"
heliax and a RG-214U jumper to a WX0B 1.1 balun. I checked the feedline
to the balun with a 50 ohm load and it's fine. The balun checked out
fine. In fact I substituted a coax balun and still the same problem.
I thought I would run this by you folks before I take it down. Hopefully
someone has a handle on this and maybe a fix other then buying a new
antenna.
Thanks in advance.
Wayne N2WK
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Jim Idelson K1IR
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>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sun Apr 21 13:48:50 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: so2r off the shelf?
In-Reply-To: <003901c1e3c5$e0628520$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <000501c1e932$e34ff7f0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Again I thank everyone who replied to the original question I posed
about so2r equipment that I could get off the shelf. I have finally
filtered and read the replies and summarized them on my web site at
http://www.k1ttt.net/technote/tworadio.html. In this summary I have
left out replies that said things like: 'go to this website for
everything', or 'I know xxx uses this stuff', or 'switch to writelog and
use their unique stuff', or 'trlog is better', or 'I have a great
homebrew setup', or 'these look good on the web site, but I have never
used them'. I am also leaving out the ones that went on about how to
setup filters and stubs, as I stated I am presently set up for m/m
operation so I know about filtering, what I am looking for is how to
switch everything the best way for so2r. If you want to review the
whole thread it is available in the archives of course.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yccc-admin@yccc.org [mailto:yccc-admin@yccc.org] On Behalf Of
David
> Robbins
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 15:06
> To: YCCC
> Subject: [YCCC] so2r off the shelf?
>
>
> I hate to reinvent the wheel, don't have a lot of time to homebrew or
> put together kits, and don't know much about operating so2r besides
what
> I have seen from a few guest operators. But I am ready to buy the
stuff
> needed to make a better so2r setup option on my m/m station. I am
> looking to buy as much as possible, preferably including cables
already
> made up.
>
> The equipment would be:
> 2x ft-1000mp
> heil proset headset
> ct or na logging software
> dvp board for voice keying
> aea morsemachine or other external keyer(s)
> each band has its own coax coming in to the table
>
> What I am looking for are suggestions for 2 or 3 things:
> 1. a headset/keyer/mic/dvp switch with cables
> 2. a 6 antenna to 2 radio antenna switch with band decoder for each
> radio and control cables.
> 3. a 6 band 2 radio bandpass filter switch for between the radios and
> amps, or possibly two separate switched bandpass filters with cables
and
> decoder.
>
> Could one decoder run both the antenna switch and bandpass filter
> switch?
>
> What is available off the shelf to do this?
>
> What are the pro's and con's of different models that are available,
if
> there are choices?
>
> Is it better to run 1 computer or 2?? Why??
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>From dhenderson at arrl.org Sun Apr 21 10:28:48 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Log Checking Reports for ARRL SS
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B781B@KAHLESS>
Hey Guys:
Issuing the Log Checking Reports (since they are not UBNs ala CQ we are
referring to them as LCRs) is not an automated process. We will be
discussing the best way to make them available and will make an announcement
about it in the next few days. Please hold your requests for them - since
it may entail a separate email address. Thanks for yor patience and
understanding.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From k0rc at pclink.com Mon Apr 22 09:54:53 2002
From: k0rc@pclink.com (k0rc)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
References: <190402109.26373@webbox.com>
Message-ID: <10b601c1ea05$47e09080$25010bce@elite233>
Eric,
Bob, K3EST, will send you your password in a private email if you ask him.
Maybe the website will include a "password engine" in the future to
eliminate this administrative task. I would guess you and I are not the
only ones requesting a "fill" on their password.
73 de Bob - K0RC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:19 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
>
> When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of my CQWW logs,
> I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN information.
>
>
> I may have gotten that email and subsequent information, but
> if I did, I no longer have it.
>
> How can I get it (again)?
>
> Eric W3DQ
> Washington DC
>
>
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>From phmonnard at bluewin.ch Sun Apr 21 15:26:32 2002
From: phmonnard@bluewin.ch (Philippe Monnard)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Helvetia 26 contest
Message-ID: <3CC2AFF8.6D93F63E@bluewin.ch>
Hello
Dont forget next week end 27 and 28 april 2002
The Helvetia 2002 contest
Start on 27 april 2002 at 1300 UTC until 28 april 2002 at 1300 UTC
ON 1.8 (cw only) - 3.5 - 7 - 14 - 21 - 28 MHz
CW/SSB
Contact with swiss station 3 points
Multi 1 by canton per band
Log must be sent until the 20 of may 2002
to : Hermann Stein HB9CRV
Br?elmatten 13
4410 Liestal
Switzerland
or by e-mail in ASCII format + summary sheet to: contest@uska.ch
You can find the complete rules http://www.uska.ch
see you in the contest
73's qro
Phil - HB9ARF
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sun Apr 21 11:37:31 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Reply Summary (to date)
Message-ID: <040101c1e942$348f3b80$03010a0a@office1>
Thanks to all who've replied to me on the FD Logging software question I
posed yesterday.
Examining the replies has been interesting.
In terms of raw numbers, the overwhelming number of responses have been in
favor of TRLog. Interestingly enough, most of these responses have come
from the TRLog reflector, NOT the CQ-Contest reflector... since one of the
replies to me was cross-posted.
Sticking solely to reponses from CQ-Contest, TRLog still had the most
favorable responses, with NA and CT both tied for a close second. But most
of the CT comments have not been ringing endorsements -- most have basically
told me that since I already own CT, might as well stick with it rather than
learn a new package. Also interesting comments there.
I'm still interested in further comments from anyone familiar with these
three packages. Meantime I'm going to have to hunt up copies of TRLog & NA
for comparison... a thought that still makes me shudder (several years ago,
I once asked a few questions about one of these on the Pa QSO Party
reflector and unexpectedly received a phone call from the distributor who
had been told I was ready to buy it!)
A few additional comments:
Several people have told me that networking the laptops for FD isn't worth
the aggravation. Actually, I agree, but I was asked to check into it. (
Don't shoot the messenger! )
Several others have had... interesting reactions to my comment regarding our
blind member. I've been called Politcally Correct ( please! ) for even
mentioning it; and prejuduced for not referring to him as "visually
impaired" instead of "blind." Must be doing something right if I'm ticking
off both sides of THAT nonsense. In any event, while I appreciate the
well-meant comments on alternatives to sticking to text-based software so
that Shawn's text-to-voice stuff would work... well, we don't work that way
here, sorry. He's a member of our club, he's a great operator, and a
reasonable request like this is not a burden, merely a small problem to be
solved. Sorry a few don't look at it that way, but that's life.
Besides, the alternative is that he'll cook again this year. (Think I'm
kidding? Go to http://doit.pgh.net/~wolfie/washrag.htm, pull up the July
2001 issue, and look at Page 7) Although a cross-state wedding kept me from
the club FD op last year, I hear that his burgers were first-rate...
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Sun Apr 21 14:05:31 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEILDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
W1MOO, 5A VT, will change from TR to Writelog this year.
6 node ethernet network....5 stations and a site-executive laptop.
Last year, TR's quirky use of memory cost us 50Q's and two key
hours of downtime on one cw station, when the bands were hot.
Ethernet vs. rs232c should improve rfi issues across the site.
Ease of setup of networked operation in Writelog will save us
setup and debug time.
And we've got a TR expert in our midst; although he gets to
sleep and go to church! So we're switching programs despite
his feelings for TR.
Last year's disaster happened during the sleep/church period,
of course. Thank you, Father Murphy! :)
Jim/N2EA
Message: 4
From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Reply Summary (to date)
Thanks to all who've replied to me on the FD Logging software question I
posed yesterday.
Jim Jarvis
Keithley Instruments
Essex Vermont
802 872 5830 voice
802 872 5831 fax
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Sun Apr 21 17:44:37 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ronald Rossi)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging
References: <025d01c1e8b9$4882a5c0$03010a0a@office1>
<003501c1e8bb$b192c980$ddcea1c6@ve6jy>
Message-ID: <3CC324B5.87DDC2AB@btv.ibm.com>
Even better yet is the free version will very likely be updated to the most
recent in time for FD!
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron (kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
VE6JY Don Moman wrote:
>
> TRlog would be (and is) my choice. It's especially suited to field day since
> it can run on a wide range of older machines and laptops and is very easy
> to network and interface to the radios (be sure you have enough serial
> ports - 2 per machine is handy. The intuitive use of the enter and
> escape keys make for easy learning and logging for a new user. All files are
> plain ascii txt so if you do have a problem with power or hd problems, it's
> a lot easier to "fix" or recover a corrupted text file than a bin type. TR
> is very bulletproof if you do have a power crash (who forgot to fuel the
> genny?) which is another plus. Support from the author, N6TR and the TRlog
> reflector is tops.
>
> As a bonus, the free sample version supports Field day.
> http://www.qth.com/tr/free.html
>
> 73 Don
> VE6JY
>From py2ny at arrl.net Sun Apr 21 19:02:42 2002
From: py2ny@arrl.net (PY2NY - Vitor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio 2002
Message-ID: <013801c1e978$13f2a160$6d14d2c8@asbyte.com.br>
Hello my friends - anybody can send me
in private, any information and home page
for Ham Radio 2002 in Germany? Including
some cities to visit around, and restaurants
or places to visit... Good hotels, anything
will be nice because my wife and me will
try to go there, this year...
Many thanks and see all of you in contest...
PY2NY - Vitor Luis Aidar dos Santos
Caixa Postal 204
Jaboticabal, SP - Brasil - 14870-970
Phone: (16) 97854218
E-mail: py2ny@arrl.net
>From mi2az05 at netscape.net Sun Apr 21 18:24:00 2002
From: mi2az05@netscape.net (mi2az05@netscape.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
Message-ID: <6FADC906.22E96578.001FB510@netscape.net>
I have been reading the posts on FD software and the networking issue. Am I
missing something, why are the computers being networked? No need for it at FD
is there? All you submit is a dupesheet. Just wondering why the importance of
networking at FD?
Barry
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>From k5zd at charter.net Sun Apr 21 23:23:55 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
In-Reply-To: <6FADC906.22E96578.001FB510@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDMEDGDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
It gives you the flexibility to use any station on any band. By having all
the computers networked, they all have the current log of stations worked
and won't have to waste time chasing dupes.
For operations where stations are dedicated to bands or modes, it is
probably better to avoid the hassle/issues of networking. Keep it simple!
K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of
> mi2az05@netscape.net
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 21:24 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
>
>
> I have been reading the posts on FD software and the networking
> issue. Am I missing something, why are the computers being
> networked? No need for it at FD is there? All you submit is a
> dupesheet. Just wondering why the importance of networking at FD?
>
> Barry
>
>
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sun Apr 21 20:26:34 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Software, Take 2
Message-ID: <076c01c1e98c$1bcd09c0$03010a0a@office1>
Murphy's Law has struck.
Talked with our blind amateur, about logging software today. Found out, to
my embarresment, that somewhere along the way, his saying that his software
could NOT handle a DOS logging program got changed around to where I was
told that his software could ONLY handle DOS. *sigh* Sorry about that.
Part of that came about because his stuff won't work with all Windows apps
either (this came up 2 years ago at the club Pa QSO Party operation, when we
found out his stuff wouldn't work with KA3JWE's logging program for the
'test.)
So... turns out I'm looking for a Windows-based logging program to use for
Field Day. New candidates include Win-EQF and N1MM's package. Any other
suggestions?
...yes, we're still thinking about Networking, too. Found out that last
year, someone went home for the night with their rig & laptop, and took the
20 Phone log with them. So the next op started working a bunch of dupes.
So it goes...
73, ron wn3vaw
"There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
probably."
--John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
>From TJCoker at lasd.org Sun Apr 21 17:58:37 2002
From: TJCoker@lasd.org (Coker, Timothy J)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Yaesu FT-1000D or Ft-1000 Mk V/Field for contesting?
Message-ID: <D418C6B4A038D611BF1900508B2CC5D91EBA89@1-CRDF-MAIL>
Hello, I am in the market for an upgraded radio for contest/dxing purposes.
I currently own a Kenwood TS-850SAT and would like to purchase a new or used
top of the line Yaesu to replace this radio with.
I have the choice of selecting between the following radios:
FT-1000D at a used price $2000-2300 with filters
FT-1000MP Mk V new
FT-1000MP Mk V Field new
I will be taking my radio to other ham shacks to guest op during contests as
I live in an apartment at this time. Occasionally I might want to lug along
a radio when staying in a cabin while camping. I mainly operate SSB but do
CW when handing out points in tests and when chasing DX. Computer
interfacing will be done with Writelog and DX4WIN software.
I'm leaning towards a 1000D based on the advice of a ham friend who I
consider very knowledgeable with various radio lines as he works in the
sales end of ham radio. I would love to hear any suggestions based on your
thoughts between these 3 radios. My emphasis is on contesting capabilities
using SSB and CW to lesser extent. Dxing comes 2nd in my operating habits as
a between contest activity.
Will I miss the DSP features introduced with the MP Mk V line? Or will the
"pinnacle of analogue technology" suffice just fine for contest operation?
The 200 watts output of the 1000D and Mk V seems great, but I'd just as
rather go legal limit if 100 watts doesn't work right off the bat, so I
don't think that the extra power is a huge issue when you've got a linear in
the shack. Any radio I buy will be loaded with filters, in the choice of the
Mark V series it will obviously bring the cost well over the "loaded, used
D"
Thanks a lot for anyone's opinions and thoughts, 73, Tim N6WIN.
>From k2wr at njdxa.org Mon Apr 22 00:25:53 2002
From: k2wr@njdxa.org (Rich K2WR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio 2002
References: <013801c1e978$13f2a160$6d14d2c8@asbyte.com.br>
Message-ID: <002401c1e9ad$68e90440$0200a8c0@5j08601>
Vitor (and others interested):
Friedrichshafen Messe (Convention Center):
http://www.messe-fn.de/fairs/ham_radio/index.php3
D.A.R.C. info page (in German):
http://home.t-online.de/home/sauter.up/darc/seiten/ham.htm
English:
http://www.darc.de/referate/ausland/foreign/exhibit.html
Portugese:
http://www.darc.de/referate/ausland/CT/aus-port.html
I went last year and had a great time. Making arrangements to go again this
year. Hope to see you there.
73, Rich K2WR
>From n2mg at contesting.com Mon Apr 22 06:19:06 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
Message-ID:
<20020422051908.11933.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Also,
1) The ability to chat (great for those overnight
hours when only the operators are awake and nobody's
sure that anyone is manning the generators as well as
for other less-serious reasons).
2) The entire operations' log is on all machines (good
for backup purposes).
3) Thanks to number 2, the convenience of seeing the
total score on any given machine.
73 Mike N2MG
On Sun, 21 April 2002, "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" wrote
>
> It gives you the flexibility to use any station on
any band. By having all
> the computers networked, they all have the current
log of stations worked
> and won't have to waste time chasing dupes.
>
> For operations where stations are dedicated to bands
or modes, it is
> probably better to avoid the hassle/issues of
networking. Keep it simple!
>
> K5ZD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of
> > mi2az05@netscape.net
> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 21:24 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
> >
> >
> > I have been reading the posts on FD software and
the networking
> > issue. Am I missing something, why are the
computers being
> > networked? No need for it at FD is there? All you
submit is a
> > dupesheet. Just wondering why the importance of
networking at FD?
> >
> > Barry
> >
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Mon Apr 22 04:16:23 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Reply Summary (to date)
References: <040101c1e942$348f3b80$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <000301c1ea01$ab6e8b60$012bfa43@computer>
Hi Ron
Go to the webe site ac6v.com tons on free ware there and NA is one of them.
The operation is basicly the same as CT and works on a DOS mach. or also on
win ME in a DOS window in ME or exit to DOS prompt is better.
I use it here for all contest and have no problems.
NO reason to LINK computers for FD other than to show it can be done. Hand
everyone a floppy and tell everyone to copy the whaateverfd.QDF to it post
FD take them home and do all the logs on your on computer.
Rex K7QQ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 15:37
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Reply Summary (to date)
> Thanks to all who've replied to me on the FD Logging software question I
> posed yesterday.
>
> Examining the replies has been interesting.
>
> In terms of raw numbers, the overwhelming number of responses have been in
> favor of TRLog. Interestingly enough, most of these responses have come
> from the TRLog reflector, NOT the CQ-Contest reflector... since one of the
> replies to me was cross-posted.
>
> Sticking solely to reponses from CQ-Contest, TRLog still had the most
> favorable responses, with NA and CT both tied for a close second. But
most
> of the CT comments have not been ringing endorsements -- most have
basically
> told me that since I already own CT, might as well stick with it rather
than
> learn a new package. Also interesting comments there.
>
> I'm still interested in further comments from anyone familiar with these
> three packages. Meantime I'm going to have to hunt up copies of TRLog &
NA
> for comparison... a thought that still makes me shudder (several years
ago,
> I once asked a few questions about one of these on the Pa QSO Party
> reflector and unexpectedly received a phone call from the distributor who
> had been told I was ready to buy it!)
>
> A few additional comments:
> Several people have told me that networking the laptops for FD isn't worth
> the aggravation. Actually, I agree, but I was asked to check into it. (
> Don't shoot the messenger! )
>
> Several others have had... interesting reactions to my comment regarding
our
> blind member. I've been called Politcally Correct ( please! ) for even
> mentioning it; and prejuduced for not referring to him as "visually
> impaired" instead of "blind." Must be doing something right if I'm
ticking
> off both sides of THAT nonsense. In any event, while I appreciate the
> well-meant comments on alternatives to sticking to text-based software so
> that Shawn's text-to-voice stuff would work... well, we don't work that
way
> here, sorry. He's a member of our club, he's a great operator, and a
> reasonable request like this is not a burden, merely a small problem to be
> solved. Sorry a few don't look at it that way, but that's life.
>
> Besides, the alternative is that he'll cook again this year. (Think I'm
> kidding? Go to http://doit.pgh.net/~wolfie/washrag.htm, pull up the July
> 2001 issue, and look at Page 7) Although a cross-state wedding kept me
from
> the club FD op last year, I hear that his burgers were first-rate...
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
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> -- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
>
>
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>From ad1c at yahoo.com Mon Apr 22 08:15:16 2002
From: ad1c@yahoo.com (Jim Reisert)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
In-Reply-To:
<20020422051908.11933.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <20020422141516.77032.qmail@web13604.mail.yahoo.com>
--- Mike Gilmer - N2MG <n2mg@contesting.com> wrote:
> 1) The ability to
> 2) The entire operations' log is on all machines (good
> for backup purposes).
> 3) Thanks to number 2, the convenience of seeing the
> total score on any given machine.
And for us hard-core multi-op contesters, the ability to pass QSOs, i.e. "Hey,
we're also CQing on 21.245, look for us there right now!"
73 - Jim AD1C
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 22 08:06:50 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204221406.g3ME6oX27947@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
WX5S(@W6YX) 4553 1078 48 10,743,348 NCCC
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
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USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 48 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
NZ1U(@KB1H) 2207 896 34 5,264,896 YCCC
NT6K 2254 845 48 4,173,455 NCCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
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USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
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USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
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USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
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USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
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USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
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USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
N4WSM 260 209 146,091 TCG
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USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
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USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
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USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
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USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
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USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K6LRN 333 255 208,640 NCCC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
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USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
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USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
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USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
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USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
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USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
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USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
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USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
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USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
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USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
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USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
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USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
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USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ1U KB1DFB,KB1H,N1XS
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
YW4M DL2GG,YV2IF,YV3AZC,YV4FZM,YV4GLD,YV4GME,YV4YC,
YV5AMH,YV5EED,YV5IQJ,YV5IVB,YV5LMW
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 22 08:09:48 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
22Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204221409.g3ME9mr27956@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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Non-USA M/M HP
YW4M 9455 1415 48 45,210,665
OT2A 9687 1523 37,950,114
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
VE7SCC 2120 0 48 4,406,904 Coquitlam Amateur Ra
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Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
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Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
P40V 6610 1251 48 25,617,978 NCCC
3V8BB 5868 1238 48 23,900,828 YU CC
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCF
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
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Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
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Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
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Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
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Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
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Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
VE7UQ 689 391 676,821
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 @12 78,210
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Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCF
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
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Non-USA SOAB LP
VP5V(W5AO) 4333 990 36 10,409,850 OkDX
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 542 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
ZD9IR 756 387 15 877,716
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
VE5SF 628 366 9 543,510
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
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Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
TM4K(F5BEG) 1040 547 1,346,714
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCF
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
Z33AA 928 501 1,122,240
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
VK4NEF 606 390 672,360
VE1ASJ 591 378 26 556,794
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
UT7QF 2334 929 35 4,825,226 UCC
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCF
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
YT1RA 1227 588 36 1,535,268 YU CC
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14.4 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 LP
4N1A(YU1EA) 154 121 38,115
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCF
YT9X(YZ1KA) 1346 629 36 1,697,042 YU CC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
PJ2H(W0CG) 1098 500 21 3,226,000 Caribbean Contesting
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ1U KB1DFB,KB1H,N1XS
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
YW4M DL2GG,YV2IF,YV3AZC,YV4FZM,YV4GLD,YV4GME,YV4YC,
YV5AMH,YV5EED,YV5IQJ,YV5IVB,YV5LMW
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 22 08:30:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] EU Sprint Sprints - CW/SSB 22Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020422072901.00a46650@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 EU Spring Sprint, CW - Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 5, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Paolo Cortese, I2UIY
PO Box 14
27043 Broni (PV)
Italy
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 148 4 148
M0TTT 136 4 136
LY2OX 132 132 LDXG
UY5ZZ 124 124 UCC
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
9A7P(9A6XX) 126 3:20 126 WWYC
I2WIJ 55 1 55
EI/G4BUO 32 1.2 32
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 22 08:15:52 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204221415.g3MEFqN27969@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: mqp@contesting.com
Mail logs to:
Mad River Radio Club
c/o Dave Pruett
2727 Harris Road
Ypsilanti, MI 48198
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
M/M HP
K8AA 302 560 102 89 11 222,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
Mobile LP
K5OT/M 205 77 51 32 40,421 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
Single Op HP
N9RV 145 89 58 37 6 36,005 SMC
K8DX 76 95 77 0 4 19,019 MRRC
VE7FO 38 16 25 12 5 3,404
VK2CZ 0 1 0 1 1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
Single Op LP
K8KHZ 74 311 39 90 12 59,211 Hazel Park ARC
K8SIA 185 120 56 51 7 52,430 MRRC
K7SV 166 100 64 42 11 45,792 PVRC
AD1C 157 49 72 31 10 37,389 YCCC
NY1S 118 45 63 23 11 24,116
KN4Y 150 0 73 0 12 21,900 FCG
N2CU 63 37 30 19 3 7,987 Western NY DX Assn
NF4A 52 32 32 15 6,392 FCG
WN6K 40 25 22 14 3,780 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
Single Op QRP
K3WW 82 19 47 14 6 11,163 FRC
Operators:
K8AA K8AA,KB8ECG,NU8Z
>From jimdstearns at msn.com Mon Apr 22 11:36:44 2002
From: jimdstearns@msn.com (Jim Stearns)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
In-Reply-To:
<20020422051908.11933.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <IPEKKPKNPHNBJJOEKHCLEENDCMAA.jimdstearns@msn.com>
Hello All,
Networking is great.....
However, it should be tested well in advance, startup scripts written, etc.
I've seen too many contesting hours missed do to the net going down and
people wanting you to re-boot, change drivers, NIC cards, etc.
We do not network but we do configure all our individual computers with a
bat file so if we get a pwr surge, lightning shut downs, etc. the Op can
just type the name of the .bat file and he is back on the air.
GL in the contest.
73
* Jim, W4MGM
* Member Woodbridge Wireless, Inc., ARC
* Est. 1972
* See WWI Homepage for Membership Information and Events
* WWW.WoodbridgeWireless.Org
* "Radio Amateurs in Community Action"
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Mike Gilmer - N2MG
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 8:19 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
Also,
1) The ability to chat (great for those overnight
hours when only the operators are awake and nobody's
sure that anyone is manning the generators as well as
for other less-serious reasons).
2) The entire operations' log is on all machines (good
for backup purposes).
3) Thanks to number 2, the convenience of seeing the
total score on any given machine.
73 Mike N2MG
On Sun, 21 April 2002, "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" wrote
>
> It gives you the flexibility to use any station on
any band. By having all
> the computers networked, they all have the current
log of stations worked
> and won't have to waste time chasing dupes.
>
> For operations where stations are dedicated to bands
or modes, it is
> probably better to avoid the hassle/issues of
networking. Keep it simple!
>
> K5ZD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of
> > mi2az05@netscape.net
> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 21:24 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
> >
> >
> > I have been reading the posts on FD software and
the networking
> > issue. Am I missing something, why are the
computers being
> > networked? No need for it at FD is there? All you
submit is a
> > dupesheet. Just wondering why the importance of
networking at FD?
> >
> > Barry
> >
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>From n2mg at contesting.com Mon Apr 22 08:45:26 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
Message-ID:
<20020422074526.14896.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Mon, 22 April 2002, "Jim Stearns" wrote
> we do configure all our individual computers with a
> bat file so if we get a pwr surge, lightning shut
> downs, etc. the Op can just type the name of
> the .bat file and he is back on the air.
I do this for ALL contests. I have contest-specific
batch files (with useful names, like CQWWCW01.bat)
that are usually based on last year's setup. These
load the TSRs, have the right command-line stuff,
whatever... but, perhaps more importantly, I have
another one called GO.BAT that calls the contest-
specific one. All I ever need to do in the event of a
crash is type "GO".
73,
Mike
n2mg@contesting.com
________________________________________________
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http://www.peoplepc.com
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Mon Apr 22 16:45:13 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
In-Reply-To:
<20020422074526.14896.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <000901c1ea14$b2160e80$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
> > we do configure all our individual computers with a
> > bat file so if we get a pwr surge, lightning shut
> > downs, etc. the Op can just type the name of
> > the .bat file and he is back on the air.
>
> I do this for ALL contests. I have contest-specific
> batch files (with useful names, like CQWWCW01.bat)
> that are usually based on last year's setup. These
> load the TSRs, have the right command-line stuff,
> whatever... but, perhaps more importantly, I have
> another one called GO.BAT that calls the contest-
> specific one. All I ever need to do in the event of a
> crash is type "GO".
>
ok, now take that one more step... at the end of the autoexec.bat add
two lines:
pause
go
and when you reboot the op gets the prompt 'press any key...' and when
he does the log starts automatically. You use ctrl-break to bypass it
when needed.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Mon Apr 22 13:11:20 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ron D. Rossi)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEILDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <200204221611.MAA27056@johnpaul.btv.ibm.com>
>>>"jljarvis" said:
>
> W1MOO, 5A VT, will change from TR to Writelog this year.
> 6 node ethernet network....5 stations and a site-executive laptop.
Same setup as TR.
>
> Last year, TR's quirky use of memory cost us 50Q's and two key
> hours of downtime on one cw station, when the bands were hot.
Jim the year before it was because all the power save features were not turned
off on the laptop. Last year we might have lost 50Qs, but it was because the
CW tent "HAD" to run on windows laptops with all kinds of extra stuff. Booting
it back up required the owner to be there to have it done correctly. The
bottom line though is you cannot turn off a networked computer when you go
home for the night!! The other machines were "clean boots" and worked fine
(nor were they turned off!!).
>
> Ethernet vs. rs232c should improve rfi issues across the site.
There were no RFI issues. In general ethernet has great capabilities, but with
increased complexity.
>
> Ease of setup of networked operation in Writelog will save us
> setup and debug time.
To be fair it "might" save us time. We don't know that yet, since it is the
first year. Last year it was <1 hour including running cables from no
computers to having all five booted and talking to each other (up to 200'
distance between CPUs).
>
> And we've got a TR expert in our midst; although he gets to
> sleep and go to church! So we're switching programs despite
> his feelings for TR.
It will free me up!! Now someone else gets to be slaved to the network =:-)
>
> Last year's disaster happened during the sleep/church period,
> of course. Thank you, Father Murphy! :)
Bless you my son!
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron rossi(kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From nat at ajheatwole.com Mon Apr 22 14:29:24 2002
From: nat@ajheatwole.com (Nat Heatwole)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Thank You WJ9B!
References:
<20020422074526.14896.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <008b01c1ea23$3f8329c0$6ec214ac@guilford.edu>
Fellow Contesters,
I'm currently going to school at Guilford College in Greensboro, NC. I
was walking to class one day last semester and I noticed a HF tribander
on a building on campus. My later inquiries about the antenna led me to
Physics professor Rex Adelberger. Through Rex I learned that the antenna
is a Mosley CL-36-M and that it is attached to a station with two linear
amps and two HF radios. I also learned that there have been several ham
clubs at Guilford in the past and Rex agreed to be the faculty advisor
to another if I could get a club established.
I don't think I've ever seen a station in greater disarray but in the
months that followed I set about rebuilding it. But I soon hit an
obstacle. All of the students at Guilford are stuck in the satellite TV,
cell phone, Internet, DVD, computer, PDA era. In other words, bulky
analog gear that's 30-40 years old, is not computer controllable, and
that can't work RTTY/PSK would not attract sufficient interest for a
club. I sent messages to the PVRC and CQ-Contest reflectors begging for
donations of newer gear but to my dismay I got *NO* offers.
Later, Carl Willis, KF4KIG (the only other known licensed ham at
Guilford) dragged me to the Raleigh Hamfest. I have been a member of
PVRC for years and PVRC-NC had a booth there so I stopped by to meet
some of the NC crowd. One of them was Will, WJ9B, a professor at
UNC-Greensboro, which is just down the street from Guilford. The day
after the hamfest Will e-mailed me and offered to donate some gear in
exchange for a tax deduction. A few days later he arrived at Guilford
wielding an Omni C and an Argonaut II. While the Omni C is a step down
from computer control it is ten steps up from the rigs currently there.
The fair market value of this donation was $1150(!).
This was the inertia we needed. I am more confident now than I have been
at any other time that a working station and functioning club will be
present on campus very soon, hopefully soon enough to get the station on
the air for SS (go PVRC!). I would like to publically extend my personal
thanks to Will, WJ9B. He is a fine individual, a great friend, and an A1
ham. He could have gotten more money had he chosen to sell these rigs on
the open market but he instead decided to donate them. Fine business! He
did not ask that I send this thank you; it's an expression of how truly
grateful I am.
I know his generosity is paralleled in the contesting community and I
hope that others will follow in his footsteps. If anyone reading this
can donate money or equipment of any magnitude to our efforts it would
be *GREATLY* appreciated and I can arrange all of the specifics for a
tax deduction. Please e-mail me if you can help in any way. Thanks
again, Will! Hopefully you are the first of many.
73, Nat, WZ3AR
<nat@ajheatwole.com>
>From w7zr at citlink.net Mon Apr 22 11:37:47 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <015701c1ea24$6cd00960$35d1fea9@N1>
How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
Most recent WPX SSB
SO AB (A) HP
NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the fact that
he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R is not a
separate classification.
I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a current
class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but unfortunetly
I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
Dick W7ZR
Price Reduced!!
Vacation or Retire Here
It's Paradise on the Beach
www.w7zr.com
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Mon Apr 22 19:16:27 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020422171627.012e77ac@pop.vnet.net>
Today I received my plaque for the 2000 CQ WPX SSB which I only
decided to sponsor last June...AFTER the 2000 results were published
(since it represented the new USA record for SOSB10). Steve N8BJQ is
doing a great job of almost SINGLE-HANDEDLY managing both WPX contests
which are nearly as popular worldwide as the CQ WW (which has far more
volunteer support with nearly two dozen Committee Members and 17 DX
Advisors). I am sure he puts in a huge number of hours collecting logs,
analyzing them, preparing the results/stories, responding to UBN requests,
keeping worldwide records up-to-date, preparing certificate lists for CQ
(who actually mails all certificates) and managing the plaques (donors and
recipients). There is NO other major DX contest that has only ONE person
doing what Steve does and NO other major DX contest that provides complete
world records concurrent with published results. Given all of this, I am
always amazed at how reponsive Steve is to any request from me!
Kudos to Steve for a thankless job! Maybe a little less griping
and a little more volunteering to help is in order from some of us.
73, Bill W4ZV
P.S. On top of WPX, Steve is also one of the CQ WW Committe Members!
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Mon Apr 22 15:24:56 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] TR vs. WL
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHGEJMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
I need to clarify something....regarding my TR vs. WriteLog post,
and W1MOO Field Day. KK1L, our TR maven, observed that the networking
issues were identical for either program...and he's right.
Beyond that, I offer the following quotation:
?Last year we might have lost 50Qs, but it was because the CW tent "HAD"
to run on windows laptops with all kinds of extra stuff. Booting
it back up required the owner to be there to have it done correctly. The
bottom line though is you cannot turn off a networked computer when you go
home for the night!! The other machines were "clean boots" and worked fine
(nor were they turned off!!)."
Ron is CORRECT; I stand chastened. TR is a slick program. I own it, as
well as Writelog. At the root of it, I guess, is whether one is a windows
nazi or not. (This is the point at which Linux fans should jump in...)
I personally don?t care what program is running, so long as there are
stick-on labels on the FN keys. My sense is, WL may be easier to implement
the network connection than TR, for the uninitiated or casual user. Once
one is proficient in TR?s setup, I believe it?s essentially a wash.
In rethinking last year?s problem...Ron is absolutely right. It WAS
specifically due to one laptop, which had gone into screen blanked,
system sleep mode....where a casual visitor couldn?t tell if it was
sleeping or powered off. Hitting the power switch didn?t wake it up...
it turned it off. The other laptop in that tent was in the sleep mode,
but hitting its power switch DID wake it up.
Message: set all computers power control options to ?never?...and keep the
power on, if you?re going to network.
73, Jim, n2ea
>From n2mg at contesting.com Mon Apr 22 13:21:50 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
Message-ID:
<20020422122152.17715.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
My one, weekend-long, experience with Writelog (we had
another nickname for it) was in a fully networked,
6-station, multi-multi environment and was less than
thrilling. Most PCs locked up at various times, and,
after rebooting, were, as often as not, invisible to
the network no matter what we tried. After a half-
hour or an hour (or two), poof!, they would simply
reappear on the network. Magic! There were many
things about Writelog that I liked. Its networking
reliability was not one of them.
Anyway, another "good" reason for networking at field
day is the gee-whiz attraction of which most hams are
guilty. That is, assuming one can get it going and
keep it going...
73 Mike N2MG
On Mon, 22 April 2002, "Ron D. Rossi" wrote
>
> >>>"jljarvis" said:
> >
> > Ease of setup of networked operation in Writelog
will save us
> > setup and debug time.
>
> To be fair it "might" save us time. We don't know
that yet, since it is the
> first year. Last year it was <1 hour including
running cables from no
> computers to having all five booted and talking to
each other (up to 200'
> distance between CPUs).
>
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>From k0hb at earthlink.net Mon Apr 22 20:42:54 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?Windows-1252?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PC control of Yaesu G-1000DXA rotor?
Message-ID: <016101c1ea2d$85606700$4517be3f@bigguy>
I have a Yaesu G-1000DXA antenna rotor. This rotor can be come under PC control
(CT, and other logging programs) with addition of a GS-232A adapter. I'm not
sure what's inside that gadget, but it costs $540, about the cost of the rest of
the rotor itself. Has anyone here homebrewed up a replacement for this thing?
Care to share your schematic and code?
(???) 73, de Hans, K0HB
--
"If people concentrated on the really important things
of life, there'd be a shortage of fishing rods and Vibroplex
keys."
>From rthorne at tcac.net Mon Apr 22 15:44:19 2002
From: rthorne@tcac.net (Richard Thorne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [Yaesu] PC control of Yaesu G-1000DXA rotor?
References: <016101c1ea2d$85606700$4517be3f@bigguy>
Message-ID: <3CC46813.D64B85DF@tcac.net>
Hans:
Go to: http://idiompress.com/ They have a board that will work for $149.95.
It
emulates the Hygain DCU-1. So if your software supports the DCU-1, it should
handle
this card.
The normal waivers apply, i.e. I have no financial interest etc. etc........
K?HB wrote:
> I have a Yaesu G-1000DXA antenna rotor. This rotor can be come under PC
> control
> (CT, and other logging programs) with addition of a GS-232A adapter. I'm not
> sure what's inside that gadget, but it costs $540, about the cost of the rest
> of
> the rotor itself. Has anyone here homebrewed up a replacement for this thing?
> Care to share your schematic and code?
>
> (???) 73, de Hans, K0HB
>
> --
> "If people concentrated on the really important things
> of life, there'd be a shortage of fishing rods and Vibroplex
> keys."
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Yaesu@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/yaesu
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>From k1ir at designet.com Mon Apr 22 18:23:28 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
Message-ID: <gp4ct8clw31qm88.220420021723@designet-jsi>
Mike,
Your story about WriteLog isn't what we experience here in our multi-single
operations. Once we get the Windows networking configured right, we never have
a problem getting a machine back on line after a problem. We have had some
occassional system hangs, but getting the machine back up is really easy, and
the log syncs up immediately. It is totally cool to have all four logs reliably
identical at the end of the contest.
73,
Jim
[CQ-Contest] FD logging program
Mike Gilmer - N2MG n2mg@contesting.com
Mon, 22 Apr 2002 12:21:50 -0700 (PDT)
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My one, weekend-long, experience with Writelog (we had
another nickname for it) was in a fully networked,
6-station, multi-multi environment and was less than
thrilling. Most PCs locked up at various times, and,
after rebooting, were, as often as not, invisible to
the network no matter what we tried. After a half-
hour or an hour (or two), poof!, they would simply
reappear on the network. Magic! There were many
things about Writelog that I liked. Its networking
reliability was not one of them.
Anyway, another "good" reason for networking at field
day is the gee-whiz attraction of which most hams are
guilty. That is, assuming one can get it going and
keep it going...
73 Mike N2MG
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Apr 22 20:19:04 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
Message-ID: <00db01c1ea54$182c6680$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Five days until the Florida QSO Party - hopefully we will get some better
conditions than our friends in Michigan and Ontario had this past weekend.
In case you haven't gone yet - check out the FQP website:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
All 67 counties should be activated by at least one and possibly two or
three more stations depending on traffic. Sweeps should be possible once
again...who will be the first?
GL!
The Florida Contest Group
Sponsors of The Florida QSO Party
(sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
away - K4OJ)
>From k5zd at charter.net Tue Apr 23 02:20:03 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <015701c1ea24$6cd00960$35d1fea9@N1>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEDPDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
I suspect if NV4X was SO1R he would have *only* had about 2800 x 950 for
7.0M...
More variables here than you can see in the score listings.
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Richard Zalewski
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 17:38 PM
> To: cq-contest
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>
> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
>
> Most recent WPX SSB
>
> SO AB (A) HP
>
> NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
>
> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> fact that
> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that
> SO2R is not a
> separate classification.
>
> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in
> a current
> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> unfortunetly
> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
>
> Dick W7ZR
>
> Price Reduced!!
> Vacation or Retire Here
> It's Paradise on the Beach
> www.w7zr.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From n6ki at juno.com Mon Apr 22 22:55:04 2002
From: n6ki@juno.com (Dennis Vernacchia)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Dick,
I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
advantage.
I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
will seee that the
top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
that is
due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
Bottom line, just list it in results.
73, Dennis N6KI
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
writes:
> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
>
> Most recent WPX SSB
>
> SO AB (A) HP
>
> NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
>
> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> fact that
> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> is not a
> separate classification.
>
> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> current
> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> unfortunetly
> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
>
> Dick W7ZR
>
> Price Reduced!!
> Vacation or Retire Here
> It's Paradise on the Beach
> www.w7zr.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
73,
Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
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>From k8do at amethyst.diamondcs.net Tue Apr 23 09:53:52 2002
From: k8do@amethyst.diamondcs.net (Dennis O'Connor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
References:
<20020422122152.17715.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <005101c1eac5$f0b7d180$1d996c40@gq7mb01>
My experience has been with CT and TRLog... I have found that TRLog, run on
a dos machine (any version from 2.0 onwards to 5.0, not windoze faking it)
and networked off the 232 port is absolutely bulletproof...
An additional advantage is that the DOS autoexec.bat file can simply have
the name of the current contest inserted as the last line and whenever you
get a power interruption the machine simply reboots directly into the
contest without the operator doing anything except yelling at whoever is
responsible for power, "what happened to the !@#$%^&* power, dammit?"...
While all the computers are loaded with windoze on the harddrive, we simply
pop a DOS boot disc in the A: drive that loads DOS (3.3 in my case) when
the machine is powered up... When the contest is over the floppy is popped
out of the A: drive and the machine reverts to windoze automatically...
Denny
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
> My one, weekend-long, experience with Writelog (we had
> another nickname for it) was in a fully networked,
> 6-station, multi-multi environment and was less than
> thrilling. Most PCs locked up at various times, and,
> after rebooting, were, as often as not, invisible to
> the network no matter what we tried. After a half-
> hour or an hour (or two), poof!, they would simply
> reappear on the network. Magic! There were many
> things about Writelog that I liked. Its networking
> reliability was not one of them.
>
> Anyway, another "good" reason for networking at field
> day is the gee-whiz attraction of which most hams are
> guilty. That is, assuming one can get it going and
> keep it going...
>
> 73 Mike N2MG
>
>
> On Mon, 22 April 2002, "Ron D. Rossi" wrote
>
> >
> > >>>"jljarvis" said:
> > >
> > > Ease of setup of networked operation in Writelog
> will save us
> > > setup and debug time.
> >
> > To be fair it "might" save us time. We don't know
> that yet, since it is the
> > first year. Last year it was <1 hour including
> running cables from no
> > computers to having all five booted and talking to
> each other (up to 200'
> > distance between CPUs).
> >
>
> ________________________________________________
> PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
> http://www.peoplepc.com
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From dave at egh.com Tue Apr 23 10:17:13 2002
From: dave@egh.com (David Clemons)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: FQP minus 5
Message-ID: <00A0CE30.1E6D45B6.33@egh.com>
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the FQP reminder, it's easy to forget the FQP is
coming up this time of year. :-)
Is it true that the FQP has new a logchecking software package
called CHAD?
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
>From dhenderson at arrl.org Tue Apr 23 10:36:25 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL International DX CW Contest Logs Received posted
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B786D@KAHLESS>
The list of Logs Received for the 2002 ARRL International DX CW Contest has
been posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
If you find an error in your listing, please have your Cabrillo log file and
receipt number available when you contact me at 860-594-0232 or by email at
contests@arrl.org
If your entry is missing, please contact me at the above numbers. Logs
received after the deadline for submission, received with an invalid format
or with missing information may be re-classified as Checklogs.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From 9a3a at spidernet.com.cy Tue Apr 23 15:01:21 2002
From: 9a3a@spidernet.com.cy (Ivo PEZER, 5B4ADA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Message-ID: <006e01c1eab6$349aeb40$b6949ac2@spidernet.net>
Unfortunatelly, our hoby of contesting is far from being equal to all
participants.
SO2R is just one of the latest developements that have caused many concerns.
But, maybe one can look at SO2R from other perspective. In my case, I've
upgraded to SO2R because I have no space for multiple towers and multiple
stacks. With SO2R I at least have better chance to increase my score using
single yagi antennas on 46 ft roof mounted tower.
I would, however, trade SO2R for multiple tower/stack station with fully
automatic amplifier if that was possible... but what about SO2R's with
multiple tower/stack/amp etc. station....
It's never ending story, I guess.
73 and enjoy contesting.
Ivo 5B4ADA/C4A
>
> I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
> the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
> That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
> will seee that the
> top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
> that is
> due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
>
> Bottom line, just list it in results.
>
> 73, Dennis N6KI
>
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
> writes:
> > How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >
> > Most recent WPX SSB
> >
> > SO AB (A) HP
> >
> > NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> >
> > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> > fact that
> > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> > is not a
> > separate classification.
> >
> > I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> > current
> > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> > unfortunetly
> > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >
> > Dick W7ZR
>From w2up at mindspring.com Tue Apr 23 11:14:48 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Message-ID: <E17014E-0005OT-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
Dennis,
I added a second radio a few years ago to improve my
competiveness (and fun!) as a single-op, or SOA. Now that some
single ops have found a way to improve their scores within the rules
you want to change those rules. Is that fair? I've already spent my
time, effort and money on the second radio setup. BTW, I do it all
with a one tower station, so don't tell me you need major real
estate, mltiple towers, megabucks, etc. That argument doesn't fly.
Using your logic, multi-single should be split into more than one
category. There's MO1R - a bunch of guys time-sharing one radio.
MO2R - a bunch of guys sharing 2 radios, where one is a run radio
and the other is a mult radio. MOMR - a bunch of guys sharing
what should be a multi-multi, where one guy runs, and 3 or 4 other
guys tune the bands chasing mults watching 10 minute timers,
etc.
And how about breaking down multi-multi? There are the
"professional" stations like LPL, XX, JA where guys fly in from all
over the world to operate. On the other hand, there are stations like
K3ANS and W3PP that are less "refined" and encourage newbies
to operate to gain experience.
Better yet, let's let everyone have their own category and decide
who they want to compete with.
73,
Barry W2UP
On 22 Apr 02, at 21:55, Dennis Vernacchia wrote:
> Dick,
>
> I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
> suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that already
> run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the advantage.
>
> I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on the
> reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
> That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and
> you will seee that the top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an
> SO2R station gets beat but that is due to other factors like a poor Op
> or lack of good equipment/antennas.
>
> Bottom line, just list it in results.
>
> 73, Dennis N6KI
>
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski"
> <w7zr@citlink.net> writes: > How about considering this regarding SO2R
> as a separate class. > > Most recent WPX SSB > > SO AB (A) HP > > NV4X
> 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS
> 2.78M > > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X
> or the > fact that > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep
> telling me that SO2R > is not a > separate classification. > > I sure
> would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a > current
> > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but >
> unfortunetly > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts. > > Dick W7ZR > >
> Price Reduced!! > Vacation or Retire Here > It's Paradise on the Beach
> > www.w7zr.com > > _______________________________________________ >
> CQ-Contest mailing list > CQ-Contest@contesting.com >
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest >
>
>
> 73,
>
> Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
>
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>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Tue Apr 23 14:43:44 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
In-Reply-To: <200204231306.g3ND6L9F026807@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020423134138.00d30c80@pop.pacific.net.hk>
K4OJ concluded with:
>(sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
>away - K4OJ)
Yeah, right. That's when we start seeing "364 days until FQP!" posts if memory
serves me correctly.
;^)
73, BW2/VR2BrettGraham
>From thompson at mindspring.com Tue Apr 23 11:47:30 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R another class??
Message-ID: <006301c1ead5$cc482ba0$d04b56d1@default>
I don't think so. Years ago we used a separate receiver to be able to
listen on two frequencies at once.
Then when transceivers came along with broad band so there was no tuning we
could switch between
the VFO's and good ops found that they could hold a frequency while using
the other VFO to tune around the band. My old Yaesu even let me have the
other VFO on another band.
The only difference with SO2R is having two rigs rather than two VFO's. The
next step in complexity is to have each hooked to different antennas and
amps. I agree with K5ZD's assumption of perhaps 80 less QSO's without SO2R.
Since SO2R have no access to packet or web spots then those operating as
assisted can make better use of SO2R.
I have writelog running and also have web summit so assisted SO2R (mine is
limited to one antenna/amp altho I can switch antennas). I find that I can
work 4 or 5 mults or others in a test hour.
I don't feel this would hold up for the entire contest. 60 to 80 out of
2880 is quite reasonable for SO no 2R.
While I am at it I don't think the tri-bander single wire is much worse than
tri-bander shorty 2 el 40.
Those of us with one tower think one tower is a better representation if one
is needed at all.
Dave K4JRB
>From kk4ta at strato.net Tue Apr 23 13:56:32 2002
From: kk4ta@strato.net (Tom and Adela)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: FQP minus 5
In-Reply-To: <00A0CE30.1E6D45B6.33@egh.com>
Message-ID: <BIEGKCDKMCJPDIEONEMJIEHACCAA.kk4ta@strato.net>
The acronym stands for "Can't Have Any Dupes"
Tom
KK4TA
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@CONTESTING.COM
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@CONTESTING.COM]On Behalf Of David Clemons
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 9:17 AM
To: CQ-CONTEST@CONTESTING.COM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: FQP minus 5
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the FQP reminder, it's easy to forget the FQP is
coming up this time of year. :-)
Is it true that the FQP has new a logchecking software package
called CHAD?
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
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>From no5w at txucom.net Tue Apr 23 13:11:43 2002
From: no5w@txucom.net (Charles Sanders)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
In-Reply-To: <00db01c1ea54$182c6680$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <000001c1eae9$f1c58da0$6401a8c0@EMOCSANDER>
Jim --
The Michigan group posted routes for the mobiles just prior to the test.
Will that be done for FQP? Good to see all of that orange on the website.
CU this weekend hopefully with better conditions than the MiQP.
73/Chuck/NO5W
>>Five days until the Florida QSO Party - hopefully we will get some better
>>conditions than our friends in Michigan and Ontario had this past weekend.
>>(sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
>>away - K4OJ)
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>From snichols at mvosprey.com Tue Apr 23 15:03:40 2002
From: snichols@mvosprey.com (Scott Nichols)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
References: <00db01c1ea54$182c6680$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <3CC593EC.7A011F57@mvosprey.com>
Hats off to the organizers of the FQP...I just received my certificate from
last year and a well done summary pamphlet of what happened, results, info
etc...Good work...
73, Scott VE1OP
Jim White wrote:
> Five days until the Florida QSO Party - hopefully we will get some better
> conditions than our friends in Michigan and Ontario had this past weekend.
>
> In case you haven't gone yet - check out the FQP website:
>
> http://www.qsl.net/fqp
>
> All 67 counties should be activated by at least one and possibly two or
> three more stations depending on traffic. Sweeps should be possible once
> again...who will be the first?
>
> GL!
>
> The Florida Contest Group
> Sponsors of The Florida QSO Party
>
> (sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
> away - K4OJ)
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>From ken.claerbout at equant.com Tue Apr 23 14:27:10 2002
From: ken.claerbout@equant.com (ken.claerbout@equant.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <OF9E121321.7BEF5D74-ON85256BA4.004C4B66@domino.globalone.net>
At the risk of beating a horse that has assumed room temperature a long
time ago, Randy (K5ZD) is absolutely right. There are far more variables
involved than just SO1R vs SO2R.
Do we also start separate listings for those who have a single yagi as
opposed to a stack of two or three? They certainly have an advantage. Two
or three towers are certainly better than one. What do we do there? How
about those who use something like a 1000MP with dual VFO's as opposed to a
transceiver with a single VFO? Yes the playing field is not level and it
never will be completely.
I look back at my situation several years ago. I wanted to be
competitive with guys in the Top Ten. SO2R was just one piece of the
overall puzzle. K3ZO was beating me rather consistently on 15 meters.
Rather than suggest we place people with 8 element yagis at 160 feet in a
different category, I upgraded my 15 meter antenna system within the
confines of my available real estate (1 acre) and financial ability. To
me, that's what contesting is about.
If you choose not to operate SO2R for whatever reason, that's fine. It
doesn't however, make an argument to sub-divide the Single Operator
category anymore than it does for some of the other so called advantages
noted above (single yagi vs stacks, etc.).
73
Ken K4ZW
Dick,
I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
advantage.
I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
will seee that the
top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
that is
due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
Bottom line, just list it in results.
73, Dennis N6KI
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
writes:
> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
>
> Most recent WPX SSB
>
> SO AB (A) HP
>
> NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
>
> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> fact that
> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> is not a
> separate classification.
>
> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> current
> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> unfortunetly
> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
>
> Dick W7ZR
>
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>From w0uo at cs.com Tue Apr 23 14:46:09 2002
From: w0uo@cs.com (w0uo@cs.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <2091E0D4.66C90F65.00004183@cs.com>
Contesters:
Dennis' suggestion is right on.
The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to include it in
contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage exists within
just a few months.
If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect between SO2R
and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two major
contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year to require
stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. If SO2R is the cause of
an advantage, one would expect the advantage to either be substantially
decreased or disappear in the second year.
Sound like a fair test?
7i3 de Jim
W0UO/5
Dennis Vernacchia <n6ki@juno.com> wrote:
>Dick,
>
> ? ? ? ? I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
>suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
>already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
>advantage.
> ? ? ? ?
> ? ? ? ?I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
>the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
>That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
>will seee that the
>top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
>that is
>due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
>
>Bottom line, just list it in results.
>
>73, Dennis ?N6KI
>
>On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
>writes:
>> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
>>
>> Most recent WPX SSB
>>
>> SO AB (A) HP
>>
>> NV4X ? ?2880 Q ?960 PFX ?33 HRS ?7.58M
>> WZ7ZR 1836 Q ?749 PFX ?32 HRS ?2.78M
>>
>> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
>> fact that
>> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
>> is not a
>> separate classification.
>>
>> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
>> current
>> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. ?I would do it but
>> unfortunetly
>> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
>>
>> Dick W7ZR
>>
>> Price Reduced!!
>> Vacation or Retire Here
>> It's Paradise on the Beach
>> www.w7zr.com
>>
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>
>
>73,
>
>Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
>
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>From kr6x at kr6x.com Tue Apr 23 11:48:43 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEDPDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Message-ID: <001a01c1eaef$202dcb80$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
In the world of computers the ubiquitous use of "TLA's" has
been dominating the ideology of descriptive language for
many years. Of course, "TLA's" stands for "three letter
abbreviations". The theory goes like this: if something isn't
important enough to be abbreviated until only the people to
which it is important can understand it, then it's insignificant.
Having personally pioneered the use of two transceivers at
W6HX over 30 years ago (no, I don't pretend to have been
the first contester to do this, only that I wandered into the
frontier unassisted), I knew when the TLA "SO2R" came
into widespread use that numerous competitors who had
previously considered the practice insignificant would
henceforth and forever after see "SO2R" as being somehow
fundamentally different from single transceiver operation.
Oh, yes, I realize that "SO2R" isn't 3 letters, it's 3 letters and
a number. Right. Sure, I'll be getting flamed on the list for
that. But many "TLA's" aren't really three letters. Consider
"MM" for "multi-operator, multi-transmitter", "MOST" or
"MS" for "multi-operator, single transmitter", and "M2" for
"multi-operator two transmitter". Those are categories, aren't
they?
It's funny that the more important issues in the competitive
position that contesters can attain aren't given the important
attention that they deserve. Oh, sure, one contest now has
a tribander and dipoles category that you can actually enter,
and there is even a category for inexperienced operators
somewhere in the immense structure for contests. But these
divisions in the contest world can never separate us quite
adequately until we have "TLA's" for each of them. I'm
sure that everyone will agree that we need some additional
"TLA's" to describe every facet of top notch competition
that separates us from reaching the top rungs of the contest.
Both the "good" and the "bad" issues require "TLA's".
For instance:
W5WMU's station has numerous towers. While most of
the operators in the November SS have dipoles on 40 and
80 meters, they often don't realize that a station like
W5WMU can have upwards of 6 full sized 40 meter beams
of 3 elements or greater - two stacked 3 elements pointed
at the Eastern seaboard, two pointed at the mid-west, and
two pointed at California. And, with one of the world's top
CW operators (N6TR) running SO2R you'd think a station
like that would always come out on top.
But NO!
WP3R always comes out on top. We need a "TLA" and a
separate entry category for WP3R. I'm going to suggest
"WP3R".
Here are a few more suggestions, and I hope I'm not the
only guy on the reflector who has ideas on this matter:
PN - Pencil Nightmare - enters every contest without
computer logging
PPC - Pirate's his Packet Callsign - Why do guys log
onto the internet/packet spotting nets with an inactive
operator's call during contests instead of their own?
TBD - Tri-Bander and Dipole? No! Tower Blew Down!
SSF - Single Sideband Filter only, no narrow CW filter
OF2R - Occupies run Frequency silently while chasing
multipliers on the second station - this can be a single
operator or a multi-operator multi-transmitter habit
HC - Happy Camper - MM station who, at 0000z, starts
calling "CQ contest" on 21,251 USB with 4 stacked
7 element yagis pointing at Europe and remains there
continuously for the next 48 hours. Implies OF2R.
TMC - Too Many Computers - No, these are the
neighbor's computers and television sets that put out
terrible RF radiation on all bands
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
To: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>; "cq-contest"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 18:20
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> I suspect if NV4X was SO1R he would have *only* had about 2800 x 950 for
> 7.0M...
>
> More variables here than you can see in the score listings.
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Richard Zalewski
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 17:38 PM
> > To: cq-contest
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> >
> >
> > How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >
> > Most recent WPX SSB
> >
> > SO AB (A) HP
> >
> > NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> >
> > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> > fact that
> > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that
> > SO2R is not a
> > separate classification.
> >
> > I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in
> > a current
> > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> > unfortunetly
> > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >
> > Dick W7ZR
> >
> > Price Reduced!!
> > Vacation or Retire Here
> > It's Paradise on the Beach
> > www.w7zr.com
> >
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>From dhenderson at arrl.org Tue Apr 23 15:07:44 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL January VHF Sweepstakes Logs Received
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B7889@KAHLESS>
The list of Logs Received for the 2002 ARRL January VHF Sweepstakes has been
posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
If you find an error in your listing, please contact me at contests@arrl.org
or by phone at 860-594-0232. Please have your receipt number available if
you filed electronically. Logs listed as checklogs either submitted as such
or were missing necessary information in the Cabrillo log file.
Thanks and 73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 15:36:45 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <1020323143645.OAA13428@gate.iterated.com>
On 4/23/02 7:01 AM, Ivo PEZER, 5B4ADA at 9a3a@spidernet.com.cy wrote:
>SO2R is just one of the latest developements that have caused many concerns.
SO2R is not a recent development. SO2R operating is decades old.
Contrary to the conventional wisdom, SO2R isn't a matter of buying
equipment. Having two radios doesn't suddenly given you an overwhelming
advantage.
Further, consider the efforts of Fred, K3ZO. He manages to hold his own
quite nicely with just one radio.
--
Technology has also made the issue entirely confused. For a couple of
years I have made the statement that the FT-1000D has 95% of the required
circuitry to do SO2R operating with a single radio. The only thing that
it doesn't do is receive while transmitting.
Now comes TenTec with their Orion. I have yet to hear back from the Sales
department on my question, but I would be quite surprised if it couldn't
receive while transmitting.
SO2R operation is effectively two receivers and one transmitter run by
one operator. Since only one signal is on the air at a time, and all
logging, spotting and operating is done by the single operator, it
properly belongs in the Single-Operator category.
There is no need for a new category.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 16:31:49 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] More QRP Bashing
Message-ID: <1020323153149.PAA19534@gate.iterated.com>
On 3/27/02 10:12 AM, Guy Olinger, K2AV at k2av@contesting.com wrote:
>It would seem that interference problems are largely solved by staying
>at low power, 100 watts, though QRP will definitely keep you off the
>neighbor's radar.
I dunno. Even with 100 watts, I still get into my neighbor's telephones
when using certain antennas, and my own TV on certain bands, if the DVD
player is hooked up.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 17:28:47 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
Message-ID: <1020323162844.QAA25155@gate.iterated.com>
On 4/13/02 12:42 PM, Ron Notarius WN3VAW at wn3vaw@fyi.net wrote:
>My experience was exactly the opposite -- I had a lot of DX stations (I
>stopped counting at 30) ask me to put them on the cluster.
Isn't ASKING to be put on the 'cluster in itself, a violation of the
rules?
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From w2up at mindspring.com Tue Apr 23 21:45:59 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <2091E0D4.66C90F65.00004183@cs.com>
Message-ID: <3CC5C807.4420.D4E7EF@localhost>
No, it's not a fair test. There are too many variables, and the causal
relationship of one variable vs. another is not adequately isolated. You
would need ops of SO1R vs. SO2R selected randomly to do an
unbiased study. However, this doesn't happen in the real world, as
SO2R is correlated (I didn't say 100% correlated, but definitely
correlated) with the better and more competitive ops (yechh, I hated
statistics in college).
Using your analogy, let's compare scores of ops using Kenwood vs.
Yaesu radios. If one group does better, does that mean we should have
separate categories for each mfr. of radio?
73,
Barry W2UP
On 23 Apr 2002 w0uo@cs.com wrote:
> Contesters:
>
> Dennis' suggestion is right on.
>
> The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to include it in
> contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage exists
> within just a few months.
>
> If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect between
> SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two
> major contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year to
> require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. If
SO2R is the cause of an advantage, one would expect the advantage to either be
substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
>
> Sound like a fair test?
>
> 7i3 de Jim
> W0UO/5
>
>
> Dennis Vernacchia <n6ki@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >Dick,
> >
> > ? ? ? ? I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
> >suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
> >already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
> >advantage.
> > ? ? ? ?
> > ? ? ? ?I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
> >the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
> >That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
> >will seee that the
> >top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
> >that is
> >due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
> >
> >Bottom line, just list it in results.
> >
> >73, Dennis ?N6KI
> >
> >On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
> >writes:
> >> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >>
> >> Most recent WPX SSB
> >>
> >> SO AB (A) HP
> >>
> >> NV4X ? ?2880 Q ?960 PFX ?33 HRS ?7.58M
> >> WZ7ZR 1836 Q ?749 PFX ?32 HRS ?2.78M
> >>
> >> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> >> fact that
> >> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> >> is not a
> >> separate classification.
> >>
> >> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> >> current
> >> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. ?I would do it but
> >> unfortunetly
> >> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >>
> >> Dick W7ZR
> >>
> >> Price Reduced!!
> >> Vacation or Retire Here
> >> It's Paradise on the Beach
> >> www.w7zr.com
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >>
> >
> >
> >73,
> >
> >Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
> >
> >________________________________________________________________
> >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO!
> >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less!
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Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From aa4ga at hemc.net Tue Apr 23 18:05:12 2002
From: aa4ga@hemc.net (aa4ga@hemc.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <2091E0D4.66C90F65.00004183@cs.com>
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On 23 Apr 2002 at 13:46, w0uo@cs.com wrote:
> The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to
> include it in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an
> advantage exists within just a few months.
Uh, who says SO2R isn't an advantage? Of course it is to those doing
it, or they wouldn't be doing it.
Having computer logging is an advantage over paper logging and a
memory keyer.
A memory keyer is an advantage over a non-memory keyer.
A non-memory keyer is an advantage over a bug.
A bug is an advantage over a straight key.
A straight key is an advantage over jamming two wires together.
Some folks don't have the typing skills to utilize the computer
logging advantage, and some folks don't have the multi-tasking skills
to utilize the SO2R advantage.
Why should there be separate categories for SO2R if not for different
keying methods?
If we try hard enough, I'm sure we could come up with enough
categories so that everyone can win one!
SO2R isn't new...it's just that it's easier to implement with off-the-
shelf tools than it ever has been. I wonder if early contesters
fought over whether or not there should be different classes based on
homebrew vs. commercial radios? They probably would have if they'd
had the CQ-Contest reflector!
We've been through all this before, and I'm sure we will again.
73 de Lee
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 18:14:26 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Spotting
Message-ID: <1020323171423.RAA28493@gate.iterated.com>
On 3/20/02 9:48 AM, w5gn from earth to swbell at w5gn@mxg.com wrote:
>I don't understand this "fear about flooding the
>spotting network" - if you are S&P'ing to generate
>spots, and working them, 60 an hour is hot and
>insignificant in volume, I would think.
If 1000 people S & P at 60/hr, that's 60,000 spots/hr -- many of them
likely redundant. I've seen lots of redundant spots. I think a few of
them are people trying to announce who they've managed to work.
>Do you run a node, and if so, is volume a problem?
I do not run a node. However, volume can be a problem, especially during
a contest.
>And if you filter out your 15:30 spot, because
>you spotted that station at 15:00, then I'll
>never see that station if I come to that band at
>15:31 because of your posting filter.
Possibly. There's always the case that you "just missed" an important
spot. The only solution there is to crank up your spotting connection
before the contest and leave it up.
The fundamental problem is that there's no replication of spots -- if you
aren't connected when the spot goes out, you miss it. (Unless your node
has a memory, and then you are limited to the depth of that memory)
There are programmatic solutions to this sort of problem, but it would
require some changes in the nature and formatting of the spots -- not
likely to happen.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 23 16:11:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Ontario QSO Party - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204232211.g3NMBCe29111@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Ontario QSO Party - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve3sre@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Ontario QSO Party
Ontario DX Assoc
PO Box 161 Station A
Willowdale, Ontario M2N 5S8
Canada
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
HFSSB LP
VE3BUC 3 195 104 24,675
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
VE3DC 965 1526 294 24 448,644 Other (specify when
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
SOABMixed LP
VE3STT 102 231 152 87,248
VA3WN 62 152 125 10 41,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
SOABMixed QRP
VA3TTT 118 113 114 17 45,578 U-VE Contest Club
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3OZO,VE3RZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 23 16:12:00 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204232212.g3NMC0Q29120@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: mqp@contesting.com
Mail logs to:
Mad River Radio Club
c/o Dave Pruett
2727 Harris Road
Ypsilanti, MI 48198
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/M HP
K8AA 302 560 102 89 11 222,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Mobile LP
K8MR 655 199 63 54 12 176,553 MRRC
WT9U/M 530 123 58 48 11 124,974 SMC
K5OT/M 205 77 51 32 40,421 SMC
K8IR 242 42 55 21 11 39,976 M&MARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op HP
N9RV 145 89 58 37 6 36,005 SMC
K4BAI 110 38 56 23 20,382 SECC
K8DX 76 95 77 0 4 19,019 MRRC
VE7FO 38 16 25 12 5 3,404
W4SAA/4(@W1CW) 45 0 30 0 3 2,700 FCG
K1KI 16 0 14 0 1 448 YCCC
VK2CZ 0 1 0 1 1
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op LP
K8KHZ 74 311 39 90 12 59,211 Hazel Park ARC
K8SIA 185 120 56 51 7 52,430 MRRC
K7SV 166 100 64 42 11 45,792 PVRC
AD1C 157 49 72 31 10 37,389 YCCC
NY1S 118 45 63 23 11 24,116
KN4Y 150 0 73 0 12 21,900 FCG
K8GL 104 0 35 0 3 11,330 MRRC
N2CU 63 37 30 19 3 7,987 Western NY DX Assn
NF4A 52 32 32 15 6,392 FCG
WN6K 40 25 22 14 3,780 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op QRP
N9NE/8 201 67 0 0 12 54,873 Fond du Lac ARC
K3WW 82 19 47 14 6 11,163 FRC
Operators:
K8AA K8AA,KB8ECG,NU8Z
K8IR K8IR,KG8CX
K8MR K8MR,W8DRZ
>From k4ww at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 19:33:02 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <1020323143645.OAA13428@gate.iterated.com>
Message-ID: <006501c1eb16$d49c3760$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
"Bill Coleman" <aa4lr@arrl.net> wrote, among other things: "Further,
consider the efforts of Fred, K3ZO. He manages to hold his own
quite nicely with just one radio."
While I agree, I have yet to see a plaque or certificate for "1st Place,
Holding Your Own"!
Shelby, K4WW
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 23 16:33:23 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 EU Sprint, CW/SSB - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020423153218.00a5b0c0@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 EU Spring Sprint, CW - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 5, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Paolo Cortese, I2UIY
PO Box 14
27043 Broni (PV)
Italy
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 148 4 148
M0TTT 136 4 136
LY2OX 132 132 LDXG
UY5ZZ 124 124 UCC
K1KI 23 1 23 YCCC
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Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
9A6XX 110 3 110 WWYC
YL2PN 61 3 61 Latvian CC
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
9A7P(9A6XX) 126 3 126 WWYC
I2WIJ 55 1 55
EI/G4BUO 32 1 32
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 23 16:50:38 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 EU Sprint, CW/SSB - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020423154942.00a55ec0@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 EU Spring Sprint, CW - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 5, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Paolo Cortese, I2UIY
PO Box 14
27043 Broni (PV)
Italy
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 148 4 148
M0TTT 136 4 136
LY2OX 132 132 LDXG
UY5ZZ 124 124 UCC
K1KI 23 1 23 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
9A6XX 110 3 110 WWYC
YL2PN 61 3 61 Latvian CC
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
9A7P(9A6XX) 126 3 126 WWYC
I2WIJ 55 1 55
EI/G4BUO 32 1 32
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Tue Apr 23 16:51:18 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <cb.211a4d32.29f72b81@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002901c1eb19$6561c2e0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Right idea, but the wrong definition. 8 radios and 8 towers wouldn't even
be competitive as a multi-multi station. But SO8R, now you're talking!
----- Original Message -----
From: <ALANNOTTAGE@aol.com>
To: <kr6x@kr6x.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 14:26
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> How about FOR - 'full-on radio' i.e 8 radios and 8 towers!!!!
>
> Al G0XBV
>
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Tue Apr 23 17:11:22 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <2091E0D4.66C90F65.00004183@cs.com>
Message-ID: <005701c1eb1c$3a95ec00$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Well, the problem with this line of thought is that if SO2R
did not provide a significant advantage, the results would still
probably look like it did. Only those who are already scoring
near the top of the listings would consider spending the extra
money for a second transceiver, a second amplifier, any
filters required, etc., and then doing the extra work of
separating feedlines, stacked antennas, and system grounds
plus running the extra radio interface cables from the logging
computer to the transceivers. Adding a good transceiver plus
amplifier, SO2R box, etc., costs money that most hams would
more effectively spend on improvements to the antennas. So
even if SO2R cost a few points in the contest rather than
adding to your score you'd still see only the high scorers with
"SO2R" next to their contest results.
----- Original Message -----
From: <w0uo@cs.com>
To: "Dennis Vernacchia" <n6ki@juno.com>; <w7zr@citlink.net>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:46
Subject: RE: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> Contesters:
>
> Dennis' suggestion is right on.
>
> The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to include it
in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage exists
within just a few months.
>
> If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect between
SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two
major contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year
to require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. If SO2R is
the cause of an advantage, one would expect the advantage to either be
substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
>
> Sound like a fair test?
>
> 7i3 de Jim
> W0UO/5
>
>
> Dennis Vernacchia <n6ki@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >Dick,
> >
> > I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
> >suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
> >already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
> >advantage.
> >
> > I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
> >the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
> >That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
> >will seee that the
> >top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
> >that is
> >due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
> >
> >Bottom line, just list it in results.
> >
> >73, Dennis N6KI
> >
> >On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
> >writes:
> >> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >>
> >> Most recent WPX SSB
> >>
> >> SO AB (A) HP
> >>
> >> NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> >> WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> >>
> >> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> >> fact that
> >> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> >> is not a
> >> separate classification.
> >>
> >> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> >> current
> >> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> >> unfortunetly
> >> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >>
> >> Dick W7ZR
> >>
> >> Price Reduced!!
> >> Vacation or Retire Here
> >> It's Paradise on the Beach
> >> www.w7zr.com
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >>
> >
> >
> >73,
> >
> >Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
> >
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>From W0uo at cs.com Tue Apr 23 22:52:08 2002
From: W0uo@cs.com (W0uo@cs.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <81.1ab4fdd4.29f769c8@cs.com>
KR6X,
With all due respect, lets look at what I said:
The quickest way to expose {an advantage, or lack thereof}, is to include it
in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage exists
within just a few months.
>
> If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect between
SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two
major contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year
to require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. (If SO2R is
the cause of an advantage}, one would expect the advantage to either be
substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
>
> Sound like a fair test?
Now, lets state two hypothesis. H0: SO2R is not a significant advantage
in contesting. H1: SO2R is a significant advantage in contesting. Testing
these hypotheses requires an experimental design. The simplest design, but
not the only one and maybe not the best, is to run two contests, one with
current rules, one with a 3 minute band change limit for both SO1R and SO2R.
I could, but will not here, state a decision rule. It should be easy for
anyone with a background in statistics. Suffice it to say, if factors other
than SO2R are more significant, it will be born out in the measurements.
There is no other way to end this argument. Them that have want to keep
it that way, them that do not want to (or cannot) invest the extra $3,000 or
so that it takes to SO2R right want it changed.
It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a significant advantage.
Its time we found out.
73 de Jim
W0UO/5
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Apr 23 23:02:07 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4 Days to go
Message-ID: <002c01c1eb34$0993ea40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
NO5W penned the following:
From: "Charles Sanders" <no5w@txucom.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
Jim --
The Michigan group posted routes for the mobiles just prior to the test.
Will that be done for FQP? Good to see all of that orange on the website.
CU this weekend hopefully with better conditions than the MiQP.
73/Chuck/NO5W
>>Five days until the Florida QSO Party - hopefully we will get some better
>>conditions than our friends in Michigan and Ontario had this past weekend.
>>(sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
>>away - K4OJ)
The proposed routes for all the mobile teams are listed on the FQP web page -
when you get to the home page click on top of the:
Counties On The Air
text/"button"....
And Brett...yeah I might say something like 364 days til come Monday, but I
guess what I am ttying to say is that I will not be as frequent a visitor to
your in box as I have been since the WPX!
Chuck, and others are encouraged to go to the website for the FQP, its:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
Surf it - it really is good stuff...
4 Days til you can make me stop e-harassing you - all you have to do is work us
in the FQP
73,
Jim, K4OJ
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Apr 23 23:13:52 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R - is it fair?
Message-ID: <003501c1eb35$ae39c460$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
I think
WPR
will suffice :-) as an abbreviation for the Puerto Rico advantage...what is
interesting however is that WP3R can be beat...and not from the Carribean.
K1TO did it a couple of years ago - yes, there is no doubtr there is some major
advantage to being the "DX" in a domestic contest....but after talking wiht a
number of guys who have done SS from KP4 they do not exactly have a cake walk
when the bands go long on Saturday night....
As far SO2R being unfair - I go back to my yearly speach - it is one set of
gray cells versus another set of gray cells in single operator (and may the
finest tuned gray cells win)...i.e. - I don't care if it is SO6R as long as it
isn't assisted operation the winner is the one who has taught his brain to best
process as much information asd possible to maximize his score. And yes,
someone who can juggle multiple radios like N5TJ or K1TO can has a definate
advantage over my brain cells which aren't as good....and I also can't shoot
billiards as well as K1TO but I am not asking him to spot me a few balls in 8
ball, either.
If a guy can tune a rig with each and and each foot, send with both hands, type
with one hand on two different keyboards and run CW pileups at over 300 per
hour - congratulations to him for maximizing the human brain and he deserves to
be the winner...
Do not create a category for this - unless you want to create a category for
state of the art rigs with DSP versus those without...and Prntium computer
logging versus older DOS 486es, etc...
Its about the operator...the really good ones can juggle it all and still tell
you you logged somehting wrong via a talk message at a multi-op...I have seen
K1TO correct my callsign logging errors in the middle of a JA run - he was
running over 150 an hour at the time....
Its the operator....PERIOD.
K4OJ
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>From k4ma at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 24 00:39:38 2002
From: k4ma@nc.rr.com (Jim Stevens)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEDPDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Message-ID: <008b01c1eb41$ac92fbc0$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com>
Wow!
I didn't expect to be the subject of a CQ-Contest expose'.
Before I am crucified, let me provide some data / facts.
I operated the contest using TR-Log. For those of you familiar with TR-Log,
if one
has it configured correctly it will provide you with an estimate of the
number of 2nd
radio QSOs. I did have it configured that way, and TR-Log says I made 96
2nd radio
QSOs. My experience says that TR-Log underestimates the number of 2nd radio
QSOs
by some amount, so I did the following.
TR-Log marked QSOs by radio 1 with "A" and QSOs by radio 2 with "B". I used
a DOS
editor with some old, but advanced editing capabilities to count the number
of "B" QSOs.
There were 176 2nd radio QSOs by this count. I also counted the number of
mults worked
by the 2nd radio which were 111. Obviously some of these I would have
worked regardless,
but just using 176 and 111, my claimed score with SO2R would have been (with
the same points / QSO):
2704 X 849 = 6.29M which is still considerable ahead of the gentleman making
the original
post. If anyone would like to see a copy of my log, just e-mail me.
Let me describe my massive SO2R station. I have a single 100 feet high
Rohn-25G tower
which supports at the top a TH-6 and 40-2CD which are rotatable. I have a
2nd TH-6
side mounted but fixed on Europe at 50 feet. I have 80M and 160M inverted
vees hanging
from the tower. I have a WX0B Six-Pack antenna switch which allows me to
switch any
of the antennas to either radio. I have 2 ICE Model 419 bandpass filters
which provide
my only interstation interference reduction. The "run" station is a
FT-1000MP with an
AL-1200 amp. The "mult" station is a Kenwood TS-440S with a Clipperton-L
amp.
I have a Dunestar audio switch box, and a home brew (yes, I do know how to
solder a
little) box for switching the mike audio. Everything is manually switched
(WE9V, the king
of automatic switching, is like a God to me).
If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't support separate categories
for SO2R.
SO2R is hard! I like to think I am a much better SSB op than CW (I know
that may
not be saying much) but because of that I rarely push SO2R that hard in CW
contests
except Sweepstakes (where Sunday rates are so slow) and NAQPs (where it is
not
quite as tough). Even in SSB contests, where I think I know what the hell I
am doing
at least half the time, I don't push SO2R as hard as I should because it is
tough to do.
It is a lot of work. I admire the SO2R masters like (to name a few) N6TR,
N5TJ, K5ZD.
But I don't think I should have a different category than them just because
of SO2R.
A final comment since I am on my soapbox. Why the hell did I do Assisted
especially
in WPX? Good question.
First, in this particular contest, I knew that I had some other commitments
that would
keep me from being 100% focused on the contest.
Second, I enjoy packet. I like watching the spots come across. I still
chase DX. I enjoy
chatting with others during the test. I spent some time during this test
chatting with K4JA
on antennas projects at his station and conditions during the test. All
things that would not
have been possible without packet.
73, Jim NV4X (K4MA operator)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
To: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>; "cq-contest"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:20 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> I suspect if NV4X was SO1R he would have *only* had about 2800 x 950 for
> 7.0M...
>
> More variables here than you can see in the score listings.
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Richard Zalewski
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 17:38 PM
> > To: cq-contest
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> >
> >
> > How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >
> > Most recent WPX SSB
> >
> > SO AB (A) HP
> >
> > NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> >
> > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> > fact that
> > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that
> > SO2R is not a
> > separate classification.
> >
> > I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in
> > a current
> > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> > unfortunetly
> > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >
> > Dick W7ZR
> >
> > Price Reduced!!
> > Vacation or Retire Here
> > It's Paradise on the Beach
> > www.w7zr.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>From kr1g at hotmail.com Wed Apr 24 05:19:08 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This -TLAs
Message-ID: <F18KoBCsBNq0mzjvJiA0000b0b0@hotmail.com>
I think I must disagree, although only slightly. TLA stands for three letter
"acronym", not abbreviation. And SO2R, while effectively a TLA, is truly a
AN4T - an alpha numeric 4-tuple, which is *far* more powerful.
And the FQP doesn't truly recognize the effects of true-north, just magnetic
north. Thats why they don't have a seperate category for Florida natives.
Man its a long time till WPX CW (soryy Jim, I'll be away from home for the
Freestyle QSO Party!)
73
Ted, ex-KR1G (I think)
>From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com>
>To: "cq-contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>In the world of computers the ubiquitous use of "TLA's" has
>been dominating the ideology of descriptive language for
>many years. Of course, "TLA's" stands for "three letter
>abbreviations". The theory goes like this: if something isn't
>important enough to be abbreviated until only the people to
>which it is important can understand it, then it's insignificant.
>
>Having personally pioneered the use of two transceivers at
>W6HX over 30 years ago (no, I don't pretend to have been
>the first contester to do this, only that I wandered into the
>frontier unassisted), I knew when the TLA "SO2R" came
>into widespread use that numerous competitors who had
>previously considered the practice insignificant would
>henceforth and forever after see "SO2R" as being somehow
>fundamentally different from single transceiver operation.
>
>Oh, yes, I realize that "SO2R" isn't 3 letters, it's 3 letters and
>a number. Right. Sure, I'll be getting flamed on the list for
>that. But many "TLA's" aren't really three letters. Consider
>"MM" for "multi-operator, multi-transmitter", "MOST" or
>"MS" for "multi-operator, single transmitter", and "M2" for
>"multi-operator two transmitter". Those are categories, aren't
>they?
>
>It's funny that the more important issues in the competitive
>position that contesters can attain aren't given the important
>attention that they deserve. Oh, sure, one contest now has
>a tribander and dipoles category that you can actually enter,
>and there is even a category for inexperienced operators
>somewhere in the immense structure for contests. But these
>divisions in the contest world can never separate us quite
>adequately until we have "TLA's" for each of them. I'm
>sure that everyone will agree that we need some additional
>"TLA's" to describe every facet of top notch competition
>that separates us from reaching the top rungs of the contest.
>Both the "good" and the "bad" issues require "TLA's".
>
>For instance:
>
>W5WMU's station has numerous towers. While most of
>the operators in the November SS have dipoles on 40 and
>80 meters, they often don't realize that a station like
>W5WMU can have upwards of 6 full sized 40 meter beams
>of 3 elements or greater - two stacked 3 elements pointed
>at the Eastern seaboard, two pointed at the mid-west, and
>two pointed at California. And, with one of the world's top
>CW operators (N6TR) running SO2R you'd think a station
>like that would always come out on top.
>
>But NO!
>
>WP3R always comes out on top. We need a "TLA" and a
>separate entry category for WP3R. I'm going to suggest
>"WP3R".
>
>Here are a few more suggestions, and I hope I'm not the
>only guy on the reflector who has ideas on this matter:
>
>PN - Pencil Nightmare - enters every contest without
> computer logging
>PPC - Pirate's his Packet Callsign - Why do guys log
> onto the internet/packet spotting nets with an inactive
> operator's call during contests instead of their own?
>TBD - Tri-Bander and Dipole? No! Tower Blew Down!
>SSF - Single Sideband Filter only, no narrow CW filter
>OF2R - Occupies run Frequency silently while chasing
> multipliers on the second station - this can be a single
> operator or a multi-operator multi-transmitter habit
>HC - Happy Camper - MM station who, at 0000z, starts
> calling "CQ contest" on 21,251 USB with 4 stacked
> 7 element yagis pointing at Europe and remains there
> continuously for the next 48 hours. Implies OF2R.
>TMC - Too Many Computers - No, these are the
> neighbor's computers and television sets that put out
> terrible RF radiation on all bands
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
>To: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>; "cq-contest"
><cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 18:20
>Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>
> > I suspect if NV4X was SO1R he would have *only* had about 2800 x 950 for
> > 7.0M...
> >
> > More variables here than you can see in the score listings.
> >
> > Randy, K5ZD
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Richard Zalewski
> > > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 17:38 PM
> > > To: cq-contest
> > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> > >
> > >
> > > How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> > >
> > > Most recent WPX SSB
> > >
> > > SO AB (A) HP
> > >
> > > NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> > > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> > >
> > > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> > > fact that
> > > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that
> > > SO2R is not a
> > > separate classification.
> > >
> > > I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in
> > > a current
> > > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> > > unfortunetly
> > > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> > >
> > > Dick W7ZR
> > >
> > > Price Reduced!!
> > > Vacation or Retire Here
> > > It's Paradise on the Beach
> > > www.w7zr.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
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>From kr6x at kr6x.com Tue Apr 23 22:33:51 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <02c101c1eb49$3cb4daf0$ede3c23f@KR6X.ORG>
Frankly, from your first sentence this last message
from you shows a misunderstanding of my post.
"cause and effect"
One can show that there is a statistical relationship between
higher scores and SO2R.
I'll not deny that. It's going to be a fact. You'll see that the
average SO2R score is considerably higher than the
average single rig entry.
But to equate the score difference between single rig entries
and SO2R entries to the advantage to be gained by going to
SO2R shows the intent to use statistics to deceive.
In a double-blind test I'm confident that it could be
demonstrated that the average top 20 entrants in any
contest could benefit from adding SO2R capability or
alternatively would suffer a score reduction if his SO2R
capability was eliminated.
But the score difference would be only a few percent, and
for many operators that are less motivated and/or less
capable than the average top 20 entrants there could even
be a significant score reduction resulting from the fatigue
that sets in within several hours of the beginning of the
serious SO2R operation. For this significantly large group
of operators, the effort required to get the most out of a
station with SO2R capabilities will tire them until they
become somewhat befuddled, and will begin to operate
inefficiently. They'll often lose run frequencies they'd
otherwise have controlled or become impatient and
angry whenever they run across duplicate contacts.
The second receiver will distract them until they miscopy
exchanges that they should have received. SO2R will
cause all but the very best operators to drain their
mental capacities until they struggle to do the
things that would have been easy for them. They
just can't keep up the pace.
With the average modern new transceiver price being
around $3500-$5000, the modern competitive amplifier
new price $2500-$4000, and the remaining hardware
required to go to full SO2R around $500-$1000, the
price of adding SO2R capability to an existing station
can range between $7500 and $10,000. Admittedly,
it can be done for less. But most competitors see the
investment as being better spent on improving antennas.
If budgetary constraints are included, then a double-
blind test would probably show that the decision to go
to SO2R results in significant score reductions.
----- Original Message -----
From: <W0uo@cs.com>
To: <kr6x@kr6x.com>; <CQ-CONTEST@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> KR6X,
>
> With all due respect, lets look at what I said:
>
> The quickest way to expose {an advantage, or lack thereof}, is to
include it
> in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage
exists
> within just a few months.
> >
> > If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect
between
> SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run
on two
> major contest with current rules, change the rules for the
subsequent year
> to require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. (If
SO2R is
> the cause of an advantage}, one would expect the advantage to either
be
> substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
> >
> > Sound like a fair test?
>
> Now, lets state two hypothesis. H0: SO2R is not a significant
advantage
> in contesting. H1: SO2R is a significant advantage in contesting.
Testing
> these hypotheses requires an experimental design. The simplest
design, but
> not the only one and maybe not the best, is to run two contests, one
with
> current rules, one with a 3 minute band change limit for both SO1R
and SO2R.
> I could, but will not here, state a decision rule. It should be
easy for
> anyone with a background in statistics. Suffice it to say, if
factors other
> than SO2R are more significant, it will be born out in the
measurements.
> There is no other way to end this argument. Them that have want
to keep
> it that way, them that do not want to (or cannot) invest the extra
$3,000 or
> so that it takes to SO2R right want it changed.
> It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a significant
advantage.
> Its time we found out.
>
> 73 de Jim
> W0UO/5
>From kl7ra at blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov Wed Apr 24 09:36:01 2002
From: kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov (KL7RA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <008401c1ebae$2001a4a0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
On 4/23/02 7:01 AM, Ivo PEZER, 5B4ADA at 9a3a@spidernet.com.cy wrote:
>SO2R is just one of the latest developements that have caused many concerns.
Bill replies:
>SO2R is not a recent development. SO2R operating is decades old.
I had a complete two station setup in the 60's, so2r switching and all.
Unfortunately it was used for instant band hopping as I never acquired
the skill to tune a second radio for mults while sending CW with my
right hand.
It was the PC and SO2R software, most probably TRLog, that added
any clear cut advantage to having the second radio. Even then it takes
an additional skill requiring a lot of practice to operate everything
efficiently.
My guess is the top ten ops would stay in the top ten with or without
whatever advantages comes their way by technology. I don't see Jeff or
Dan taking a big dump in the standings anytime in the future because of
something "new". I see guys like that always looking for whatever skill or
equipment it takes to keep up or ahead of the pack.
In my opinion it's probably best not to dumb down the contest community
by rule changes but to encourage station and operator improvements.
The major rule changes will come soon enough. Contests will go to 24 hour
weekends, due busy lifestyles and packet spots will be okay for everyone,
due to enforcement issues.
73 Rich KL7RA
Snowed all weekend, zero degrees F last night. Come on Dayton...
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Wed Apr 24 08:42:14 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Message-ID: <3CC661D6.E4CC558F@gte.net>
Didn't anyone really READ Dennis' post? WHERE did he say anything about
a seperate category for SO2R? I just reread it, and still don't see it.
He wrote:
"I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on the
reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized."
Just something in the results to show who is and isn't using SO2R - NOT
A SEPERATE OR NEW CATEGORY. It's already on the 3830 reporting form ...
what's the big deal on adding an * after a printed result?
Seems like it's a big secret or something!
73, Ron WD4AHZ
SO1R, by choice AND necessity (and no, I don't want a new category. I'd
just like to know how I compare to my "peers" - and maybe smile when I
happen to beat a SO2R - or is THAT what has everyone so worried?)
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Wed Apr 24 08:48:12 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
References: <000001c1eae9$f1c58da0$6401a8c0@EMOCSANDER>
Message-ID: <3CC6633C.C1667475@gte.net>
Charles Sanders wrote:
> The Michigan group posted routes for the mobiles just prior to the
> test. Will that be done for FQP?
Go to the "On The Air" page on the FQP Web site. There you'll find a
listing of the mobiles and what counties they plan to be active from
(listen for them to sign /CTY, to let you know what county they are
currently in), as well as some of the fixed stations who will be on.
Ron, WD4AHZ
>From ums at nconnect.net Wed Apr 24 08:06:21 2002
From: ums@nconnect.net (Gary Sutcliffe)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <E17014E-0005OT-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
References: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20020424070621.00707cb0@mail.nconnect.net>
Radio contesting is unfair. Someone with better antennas, radios, location,
etc. will always have an advantage over an equivalent operator with a
lesser station. That's life. Or, maybe it is just a natural part of a
competition that encourages innovation.
The one thing about SO2R is that just writing a check and adding SO2R
capabilities to your station will not give you the automatic improvement
that other equipment upgrades would. You have to put the effort in to learn
to do it effectively. IMHO, SO2R is the major change in contesting that is
mostly based on operator skill.
I think we should applaud those who put the effort in to operate SO2R
effectively. We should also applaud those who work to improve other
contesting skills like pulling weak ones out of the noise, better typing
skills, better pileup techniques, better run skills, better S&P skills,
etc. I don't see a whole lot of difference.
73 - Gary, W9XT (whose limited moves into SO2R have probably cost more
QSO's than they gained :-)
____________
Gary Sutcliffe, W9XT Unified Microsystems
ums@nconnect.net PO Box 133
http://www.QTH.com/w9xt Slinger, WI 53086
>From ha1ag at compuserve.com Wed Apr 24 12:01:05 2002
From: ha1ag@compuserve.com (Zoli Pitman HA1AG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Rome & Lisbon
Message-ID: <001d01c1eb8a$d7dec680$33112a1f@Libertel>
Hi,
After a few days of leisure (hopefully FQP can be included! :) ) I'll be on
the road again. I'll be in Rome, Italy between 6 and 12 May, and in Lisbon,
Portugal between 1 and 9 June.
I'd like to use this trips to meet local hams so if U're interested in
having a beer (or more) and have a chat about contesting send me an emailto
ha1ag@compuserve.com.
73 de Zoli HA1AG
>From ve4xt at mts.net Wed Apr 24 08:42:41 2002
From: ve4xt@mts.net (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
Message-ID: <007101c1eb8d$86131c40$0100a8c0@joe>
First off, let me state I do not run SO2R, so this is not about protecting
any turf.
I don't believe SO2R warrants a separate category. W7ZR's analysis -- so
statistically flawed on so many levels I can't imagine anyone would base an
argument upon it -- simply shows one station in the promised land of
propagation laying a big old can of whupp-ass on a station in a
propagationally challenged area. No big surprise there.
Is there an advantage to SO2R? Perhaps, though it seems the jury is still
out. Sure, stations will claim to have made 100 QSOs or 200 QSOs on the
second radio. But even that is not valid statistically unless you make those
QSOs net of QSOs lost on the main radio while fiddling with SO2R.
Nobody has even ventured to speculate on QSOs lost, though SO2R continues to
be popular so obviously people think there's an advantage.
Some SO2R foes are in la-la land if they think that running two radios means
doubling their QSO count. Not even close.
But is the advantage to SO2R any different than the ability to copy several
streams of CW at once. Clearly, ops with that ability have a large operative
advantage over ops who struggle to copy one stream of CW at once. Do we
create a separate category for them?
Is the advantage to SO2R any different than the advantage granted an
operator whose internal SSB filters work better than the next guy's? Do we
create a separate category for them?
Is the advantage to SO2R any different than the advantage granted an
operator whose ability to pick bandswitch times is better than the next
guy's? Do we create a separate category for them?
How about the operators with the innate ability to find run frequencies
almost instantly?
(Oh, and don't bring in the economic argument, please. It's simply not
relevant. First, you can borrow the other radio. It doesn't need its own
amp. It doesn't need its own set of 5/5/5/5/5/5 yagis. You can homebrew your
way past the connectivity issues. Second, if you're going to apply
economics, then why not apply economics to the case of the ham who's
struggling to keep his FTDX400 on the air versus the guy who's FT 1000 MP
Mark V just arrived? Or the guy who's pair of homebrew 811s can't hold a
candle to an Alpha 87s pair of 8877s? SO2R is an ability that's practised
and honed over countless hours of operating. It can't be bought.)
I think the proposal to create a separate category for SO2R amounts to a
lowering of standards and marginalizes operators for doing what we really
want them to do -- be the best ops they can be.
If you would like to self-identify as SO1R, and have a separate category for
that, I wouldn't complain. I think, that like the tribander-single element
class, it would be OK to allow ops to opt out of the big leagues if they
choose. That would be democratic. Fair. Reasonable. And it wouldn't lower
the standards in the main category. I also suspect, that much like the
number of ops who would qualify for T/S don't choose that category, you'd
have ops with one radio who choose not to self-identify as SO1R.
There's a romantic quality to being a giant-killer. I wouldn't want to see
that taken away by forcing the giant into a different arena.
73, kelly
ve4xt
>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Wed Apr 24 10:45:01 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jay Pryor <jpryor@ARCHES.UGA.EDU>
To: SECC@contesting.com
Subject: [SECC] Eyes and Contests
I'm passing this along so you will be aware of this possibility . . .
For the past four or five years when I operated in contests, I got blurred
vision. Not just blurry vision but vision that is seriously blurred -- to
the extent that it would be dangerous to operate a car, which I have
done. About a month ago I was diagnosed as having glaucoma. This week I
learned that I have intermittent acute angle glaucoma. The onset is caused
by dilated pupils. When the pupils are dilated for long periods of time,
like when I'm sitting in a fairly dark room in front of radios, pressure
builds in my eyes and blurred vision results.
The good news is that it can be fixed. In fact the kind that I have is the
only form of glaucoma that can be fixed. The eye doc fixed the right eye
yesterday with a laser and will treat the left eye on Friday. This is a
rare condition, but if you get seriously blurred vision when you contest
for long periods of time you might want have your eyes checked by an
ophthalmologist. In fact it isn't a bad idea anyway.
FWIW,
Jay/K4OGG
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>From nf4a at knology.net Wed Apr 24 11:01:00 2002
From: nf4a@knology.net (NF4A)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NF4A/M Route Plans for FQP
Message-ID: <NEBBKJEIHCNOJGJPHIDLMEOGEMAA.nf4a@knology.net>
Saturday starting in ESC then, SAN,OKA,WAL,HOL,WAG,JAC,GAD,LEO,JEF,MAD and
as far east on I-10 as possible with POSSIBLE excursion to SUW and HAM.
Sunday starting in BAY then, GUL,CAL,LIB,GAD,LEO,WAK,JEF,TAY,LAF,DIX, then
back thru to FRA (finishing contest in FRA so I can go have a cold beer with
N4PN at St. George Island in FRA)
40-10 Meters SSB and CW
Charlie NF4A/9A5PC
>From N5RP at pdq.net Wed Apr 24 11:06:28 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020424095929.00b37588@pop.pdq.net>
At 09:45 4/24/2002 -0400, Bill Fisher, W4AN wrote:
>I'm passing this along so you will be aware of this possibility . . .
>
>For the past four or five years when I operated in contests, I got blurred
>vision.
<snip>
=========================>
Yes, as Bill mentions, the torture on the eyes from hamming in front of
computers presents some real dangers and problems to our aging community.
I've done some research on this very problem for my own benefit, and my
wife, for my benefit, has done some looking around for information on the
subject, as well.
Before I dare get in trouble for "impersonating" a professional by
mentioning what I came to discover on the subject, are there any
professionals out there in the commercial interior design or medical arena
that might wish to comment on the ergonomics of a properly designed station
layout as it applies to eye strain and eye damage to our aging contest
community?
.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Wed Apr 24 16:12:16 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
In-Reply-To: <200204241446.g3OEk49F015354@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020424150421.00a91f00@pop.pacific.net.hk>
K4OJ continued:
>And Brett...yeah I might say something like 364 days til come Monday, =
>but I guess what I am ttying to say is that I will not be as frequent a =
>visitor to your in box as I have been since the WPX!
But if you don't, I'll probably cock things up & miss it... so keep up the good
work, mate.
Already have 280 bhp taxi with total nutcase driver booked & seat closest to
first exit door on B747-400 Combi reserved for fast exit upon arrival in HKG
in hopes I can be back home in time to defend the all-time greater China record
in FQP...
I trust others have their FQP plans equally sorted & will be ready to rock 'n
roll this weekend!
73, BW2/VR2BrettGraham
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 24 09:38:56 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FYI - Virus Address Spoofing
In-Reply-To: <001301c1eb11$ee1e0240$6401a8c0@Workgroup>
References: <8aabcucrdvnpph3ouob7g5cb0hka7oc61k@4ax.com>
<000201c1eb04$380a9a20$8266fea9@telepac.pt>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020424082102.00a5a120@pop3.eskimo.com>
FYI - just as a trivial interest
A lot of mail has been going around about the latest
virus behavior and address spoofing. Got a good example
of it in the 3830 administration hold box this morning.
A post FROM "3830-request" TO "3830".
3830-request would never originate mail - it is used
for incoming list administration requests. You would normally
post TO "3830-request". Obviously, some one has both these
addresses in their address book and the random combination
finally popped up.
So, the moral is (if there is one), watch who you
accuse of sending viruses. :>(
73 and have good day
dink, n7wa
>From n2mg at contesting.com Wed Apr 24 11:58:09 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL Contest Rate Sheet
Message-ID:
<20020424105810.23676.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
It seems that for about a month or so, the ARRL has
been publishing the "Contest Rate Sheet" bulletin (in
electronic form). It's available via email (to ARRL
members) and on the web:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/rate-sheet/
Ward Silver, N?AX is editing it.
Seems to be a part of the web-presence arsenal of
contesting resources which the League is developing.
Did I miss its announcement or what?
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From kq2m at mags.net Wed Apr 24 15:07:38 2002
From: kq2m@mags.net (Robert Shohet)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R Nonsense
Message-ID: <000701c1ebba$eb9c0680$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
This thread is almost as old as SO2R itself and keeps coming up every year.
OK, here it is:
1) SO2R is an advantage over SO1R, but ONLY for those operators who gain
more with the 2nd radio than they lose on the 1st radio. REREAD THAT
PLEASE!
Many people try SO2R, discover that it's tougher than they thought and
really mess up with the first radio (as well as the 2nd radio), get
flustered and really tired and frustrated, and LOSE SCORE compare to simply
being SO1R. Plus the discouragement they feel REDUCES their energy level
and their score further.
IMO, computer logging was a quantum leap over paper logging, and in my case,
I KNOW that computer software has helped increase my efficiency and score
FAR MORE than adding a 2nd radio ever did! Despite that, the contest
sponsors didn't see fit to put create a new category for computer loggers -
they were right NOT to do so.
Sure software costs less than a 2nd station, but you can borrow a 2nd radio
and amp and it costs a lot less to build a wirebeam that it does for
computer software!
2) This $5,000, - $10,000 for SO2R is TOTAL NONSENSE! While I don't doubt
that some have spent this and more, I started with a USED TS830, USED SB220
and a few wire antennas.
Total cost MAYBE was $1,200, and that was 15 years ago. Today you could buy
them for less. Heck, someone would probably give you the TS830 for FREE!
What does it cost to build a 20 M Inverted V out of spare wire and RG8X?
$10? The computer that I used was a really slow 286. It would have cost
more to throw it away than to use it!
Even as recently as 4 years ago, I was still using a TS940 and SB220 with a
few wire antennas as my 2nd radio. Good enough to beat quite a few
Northeastern good ops with stacks and real SO2R capability and come in 3rd
in ARRLDXCW SOABHP Unassisted and finish in the top-ten in ARRLDX and CQWW
each year. As many have said, SKILL COUNTS!
3) I still DO NOT use automatic ant/radio/amp switching. I have some of the
stuff I need but I never installed it. I'm not sure that it will be durable
enough and I don't have the time to install it. IT IS NOT NECESSARY for
competitive SO2R, but it sure makes it more fun and more efficient if you
have it.
So spend (or don't spend) all the money you want, but understand that MONEY
ALONE does not change the standings. A great opr at a decent station will
almost always beat a decent opr at a great station!
4) Competitive SO2R is primarily about skill building, operating efficiency
and challenging yourself. Operating 2 radios (or more) is a skill that is
developed. While some may be born with more inherent talent than others (no
different than athletes, musicians, or anything else), a real "pro" takes
pride in it, works at it and seeks to find new things to do to aid the
operation. The more you push yourself, the better your skills get, and the
more often you push yourself, the more consistent the improvement and the
higher the baseline level of skill available for next time.
I haven't nearly maxed out my skill level yet. If I gave it as much time as
I do my career, I would probably be an order of magnitude better at it with
that much LESS effort. I can't wait to hear when someone has managed to
"perfect" a really efficient SO3R. I don't think it has happened yet, but I
am sure it will and I will applaud it when it does!
5) I won't address all the other areas covered, but suffice it to say that
life is unfair and contesting is unfair. There will NEVER be a level
playing field: there will never be equal propagation, or equal disposable
income, or equal location, or equal time flexibility, or equal anything -
that's just how it is. So, I try to focus on a few key things:
1) Having fun
2) Improving myself and my skills
3) Competing with myself, and
4) Talking with my friends
IMO, that's really all that should matter, and leads to maximum enjoyment.
I can NEVER win SS Phone from Connecticut, but I can still enjoy operating
in it (one of my favorite contests) and I won't ask for the contest sponsor
to create a new category to give me a better chance to win.
Someone can go to a big station in Nev or PR and make 30% more q's and score
than me, SO WHAT?
If they can use 8 radios and increase that to 40% more q's than me , SO
WHAT? They should be congratulated for their extra effort!
I know, that's not how everyone feels. That's simply my opinion. I leave
the judicious use of categories to the contest sponsors.
In the meantime, and as the debate rages on, please remember that what
matters most is to get on, operate and try to have fun.
73
Bob KQ2M
>From n2mg at contesting.com Wed Apr 24 12:31:53 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Tue, 23 April 2002, W0uo@cs.com wrote
> It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a
> significant advantage. Its time we found out.
This is the wrong question.
No one said that SO2R was not an advantage. From what
I've read, most agree that it is a significant
advantage. Anything that provides a detectable
improvement to one's score is a "significant"
advantage - IOW, one worth undertaking. If it wasn't
an advantage, why would anyone bother doing it?
The right question is: Does SO2R warrant a separate
category (and why)? The number of things providing
(significant or otherwise) advantage is virtually
endless and they have been listed here ad nauseum.
Virtually none of them have a distinct category. Why
does SO2R stand out in some minds? I sense it is not
simply because it offers an advantage. To me it
almost seems like it is simply because it is a
politically-correct-to-question operating technique.
Is it a bolt-on advantage like an amplifier? No, SO2R
requires a high degree of skill to use. Is it like
packet? No, all advantages from SO2R come from within
one's own efforts. Is it like having big antennas
(which generally have no separate category)? No, most
of the work required to extract an advantage from big
antennas is done well before the contest period.
73 Mike N2MG
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From n5nj at gte.net Wed Apr 24 15:17:55 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (Bob Naumann - N5NJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FYI - Virus Address Spoofing
References: <8aabcucrdvnpph3ouob7g5cb0hka7oc61k@4ax.com>
<000201c1eb04$380a9a20$8266fea9@telepac.pt>
<5.1.0.14.1.20020424082102.00a5a120@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <00f001c1ebc4$c536b9e0$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
I have been receiving these types of notices for several weeks.
They all have a ham "theme" to them, in that many of the emails are hams.
So, someone, probably one of the contesting community, has an email virus on
their machine running rampant.
Several of us have communicated about it and we all know that it's not our
machines.
The virus that does this is called:
KLEZ.E.WORM
It uses the:
MIMEEXPLOIT.IFRAME
weakness of Outlook and Internet Explorer.
The w32.klez.e@mm virus, also known as the "Klez" virus, is a mass mailing
e-mail worm that copies itself to network shares and distributes itself to
all of the Address Book entries on the affected computer's Outlook Address
Book.
You can read about it here:
http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q316658
These things are real, and if you don't have up-to-date virus protection, it
might be your computer doing it.
I thought SPAM was bad enough, now I get all of these rejected email
messages.
73,
N5NJ
----- Original Message -----
From: <mwdink@eskimo.com>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>;
<list-owners@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:38 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FYI - Virus Address Spoofing
> FYI - just as a trivial interest
>
> A lot of mail has been going around about the latest
> virus behavior and address spoofing. Got a good example
> of it in the 3830 administration hold box this morning.
>
>
> A post FROM "3830-request" TO "3830".
>
> 3830-request would never originate mail - it is used
> for incoming list administration requests. You would normally
> post TO "3830-request". Obviously, some one has both these
> addresses in their address book and the random combination
> finally popped up.
>
> So, the moral is (if there is one), watch who you
> accuse of sending viruses. :>(
>
> 73 and have good day
> dink, n7wa
>
>
>
>
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>From k0hb at earthlink.net Wed Apr 24 20:32:58 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?iso-8859-1?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <012a01c1ebbe$768006e0$1a11be3f@bigguy>
W0uo@cs.com wrote
> It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a
> significant advantage. Its time we found out.
Of course it's an advantage, just like being able to copy QRQ code is an
advantage.
In other words, it's a skill and skilled people have an advantage.
I'm not an SO2R guy, in fact I have trouble being an SO1.5R guy (I have a Drake
R4C on a multiband vertical to tune for mults).
Until I decide to master the skill, the SO2R guys are gonna do better than me.
That's my problem, and their advantage. So be it!
(???) 73, de Hans, K0HB
--
1943 Poster Child for The National Precocious Little Bastard Campaign
>From tree at kkn.net Wed Apr 24 13:37:01 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Larry Tree Tyree N6TR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020424123701.B31963@kkn.net>
> I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on the
> reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized."
>
> Just something in the results to show who is and isn't using SO2R - NOT
> A SEPERATE OR NEW CATEGORY. It's already on the 3830 reporting form ...
> what's the big deal on adding an * after a printed result?
I would like to point out that the CW Sprint lists the number of band
changes for the top ten stations. This easily shows who is using two
radios and how much they are using it.
Typically, one or two of the top ten are using one radio - with six or
less band changes. There are typically one or two stations up over 100
band changes in the same four hours.
Tree N6TR
tree@kkn.net
>From w2up at mindspring.com Wed Apr 24 16:55:31 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020424095929.00b37588@pop.pdq.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <E170SrW-0004AP-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
On 24 Apr 02, at 10:06, Bob, N5RP wrote:
> At 09:45 4/24/2002 -0400, Bill Fisher, W4AN wrote:
> >I'm passing this along so you will be aware of this possibility . . .
> >
> >For the past four or five years when I operated in contests, I got
> >blurred vision.
> <snip>
> =========================>
> Yes, as Bill mentions, the torture on the eyes from hamming in front
> of computers presents some real dangers and problems to our aging
> community.
>
> I've done some research on this very problem for my own benefit, and
> my wife, for my benefit, has done some looking around for information
> on the subject, as well.
>
> Before I dare get in trouble for "impersonating" a professional by
> mentioning what I came to discover on the subject, are there any
> professionals out there in the commercial interior design or medical
> arena that might wish to comment on the ergonomics of a properly
> designed station layout as it applies to eye strain and eye damage to
> our aging contest community? . Bob Perring
> ........................................... Amateur Radio Station
> N5RP mailto:N5RP@pdq.net N5RP Station Page:
> http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>
Ergonomics of computer use - nothing earth-shattering here. The
monitor should be at eye level, not above. This is more to prevent
neck problems than eye problems. The focusing muscles in the
eyes contract to focus close up, such as on a monitor. This does
no harm, but may lead to "eyestrain" or headache. The focusing
muscles relax to their resting state when you look across the room
- not a bad idea to do this periodically. If you are over 40-45, and
you don't wear glasses, you probably will need them for extended
close work. If you do wear glasses already for distance, you
probably will need correction for close work.
Glaucoma - Glaucoma is a disease of optic nerve damage that can
lead to blindness without treatment. There are many kinds of
glaucoma. The most common type is open-angle glaucoma
(90+%). It is slowly progressive over months to years. In its early
stages, it is usually without symptoms. By the time you notice a
"blind spot" in your vision, about 90% of your field of vision is gone
and cannot be recovered. It is usually treated with eye drops,
sometimes with laser, sometimes with surgery.
Narrow (or closed) angle glaucoma is much less common, but is a
medical emergency, often leading to blindness within a few days, if
not treated. Symptoms may include pain, redness, blurry vision
and headache. It most often occurs in dim lighting, such as movie
theaters and ham shacks. The "glaucoma attack" may be initially
treated with medication, then followed by laser, which is usually
curative.
2% of Americans of European descent have glaucoma. 10% of
Americans of African descent have glaucoma. It often runs in
families, but not necessarily.
If you are over 40, have your eyes examined every 2 years, even if
you have no problems with them. If you are diabetic, make that
every year.
73,
Dr. Barry, W2UP
Disclaimer - I am an ophthalmologist licensed to practice medicine
in PA and NJ. This e-mail is general information only and should
not be interpreted as medical advice or the practice of medicine.
--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From tree at kkn.net Wed Apr 24 13:56:13 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree N6TR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
Message-ID: <200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
But - with the exception of the Poisson D'Avril contest on the
first, there just doesn't seem to be much going on.
It really makes it hard for us two radio guys to keep our skills
in shape.
At any rate - if anyone does know of any contests coming up this
weekend, that might not be well publicized, please let me know.
Maybe the Podunk Stew Perry Kid's QSO Party Sprint or something...
73 Tree N6TR
tree@kkn.net
>From ford at cmgate.com Wed Apr 24 16:09:15 2002
From: ford@cmgate.com (Ford Peterson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <000801c1ebcb$ea1026a0$13ed83d1@office>
Mike Gilmer wrote:
>
> The right question is: Does SO2R warrant a separate
> category (and why)? The number of things providing
> (significant or otherwise) advantage is virtually
> endless and they have been listed here ad nauseum.
> Virtually none of them have a distinct category. Why
> does SO2R stand out in some minds? I sense it is not
> simply because it offers an advantage. To me it
> almost seems like it is simply because it is a
> politically-correct-to-question operating technique.
>
SO2R is to contesting what running two fishing lines is to a fishing
contest. Two radios does not double the Qs. It may however double your
score. Chasing down mults while running a frequency is not rocket
science--especially when the run rate slows. Checking activity on other
bands with one radio requires giving up a run frequency.
Comparing a station with two radios to a station with one radio is not a
fair comparison. Comparing a station with a beam and a dipole is very
comparable to a station with 6 mono banders. In each case, only one antenna
gets used at a time.
SO2R is more akin to multi-multi operation than a multi-single. To compare
SO2R to a single op-single radio is quite unfair. There is nothing
"political" about it. It's simple physics, rudimentary probabilities, basic
ergonomics.
SO2R should be a category on its own, just like the "assisted" notion we now
embrace as "logical."
Ford-N?FP
ford@cmgate.com
>From Jimk8mr at aol.com Wed Apr 24 17:21:49 2002
From: Jimk8mr@aol.com (Jimk8mr@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <1a7.14b8401.29f86ddd@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/24/02 3:00:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
n2mg@contesting.com writes:
> Why
> does SO2R stand out in some minds? I sense it is not
> simply because it offers an advantage. To me it
> almost seems like it is simply because it is a
> politically-correct-to-question operating technique.
SO2R stands out in my mind not because it lets a person run up a bigger score
than would, say, a huge antenna farm, but because it leads to different
operating techniques that while great for the user are not so great for the
rest of contest community.
For years one had to, from time to time, abandon a run frequency to find the
many multipliers - mainly operations that are the only activity from that
country - who would never answer a USA station's CQ. This would then open up
a frequency that would be up for grabs for the first person who happened to
arrive there.
With SO2R the savvy operator just keeps CQing away, while finding and working
those mults on his second radio. That run frequency never becomes available
for anyone else.
For a number of years this may have been a managable problem, since automated
CQing was confined to CW, where there is just about always a little more room
at the top of the band. When voice keyers arrived on the scene in SSB
contests, SO2R became a bigger problem because there is never just a little
more room above 14350 or 21450.
SO2R is a natural evolutionary outcome of the quest for bigger and better.
It's great for the guys who can equip a station for it and use it well. For
the rest of us, forgive us if we aren't so excited by it. Tuning up and down
a band listening to the same guys CQing gets old quickly.
Check out the phone DX contests in about 4 years when we don't have 900 KHz
of useful spectrum on 28 MHz...
That said, I see nothing to be gained by making it a separate category. I
see no harm in making available the information on who is using it.
Jim K8MR
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Wed Apr 24 21:23:55 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R Nonsense
In-Reply-To: <000701c1ebba$eb9c0680$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
Message-ID: <000301c1ebcd$f636bcd0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
> I can't wait to hear when someone has managed to "perfect" a
> really efficient SO3R. I don't think it has happened yet, but
> I am sure it will and I will applaud it when it does!
Hey, s51ta did so6r here for wpx ssb this year and did pretty good for
his first try at it. There are just a few little bugs to work out and
it should be all ready for a real workout in a future contest! For one
he has to stretch his arms a bit to reach all the stuff, but once I get
all the autotune amps and auto turning antennas in place it should be
much easier. The biggest improvement will be when someone makes a
contest logger that will talk to all 6 radios at once. Then a so6r
headphone switcher with spatial separation of the 12 audio channels
would be nice, it would make the audio mixing look a bit less like a
recording studio. Think about that for a while, put 20m front and
center, 15m to the left, 10m to the right, then distribute 40m, 80m ,
and 160m above or below them, add virtual reality goggles and an eye
position sensor to pan you to the band you want to concentrate on, just
think of the possibilities!
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Wed Apr 24 17:29:17 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (James Jarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] blurred vision
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOELNDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Acute angle glaucoma.....I was diagnosed with it in my left
eye a couple of years ago, and had it treated. The right eye
is monitored regularly; the opthalmologist recommends
laser surgery, just to avoid the possibility of a problem.
As I understand it, this is a normal condition of aging for
a significant percentage of the population. Fluid in the
eyeball normally leaks out through ducts at the periphery
of the cornea. Those ducts get pinched in narrow-angle
glaucoma. This results in pressure building up.
In turn, this can limit blood flow to the retina..and ultimately
cause blindness.
W4AN observed that it's made worse under darkened room
conditions, when the pupils dilate. This is true,
but it doesn't cause the condition, as I understand it.
The normal aging process results in the eye changing shape,
which poses the problem.
The risk is that ocular pressure can build quickly under
some conditions.....like going to 9,000 feet pressure,
which is normal cabin pressure in a commercial jet plane.
The risk of loss of retinal cells due to lack of blood
flow is serious....blindness can result.
If you're over 40, you should ask about acute angle
glaucoma when you have your eyes regularly checked.
W2OX, himself an MD Opthalmologist, recommends glasses
for contesting that give you a wide field of view, at
the normal equipment distance. This will reduce fatigue,
keeping you in the chair longer.
Jim Jarvis
n2ea
>From n5nj at gte.net Wed Apr 24 16:34:03 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (Bob Naumann - N5NJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <81.1ab4fdd4.29f769c8@cs.com>
Message-ID: <014001c1ebcf$73e61260$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
It IS an advantage - but only to those who can do it well! There is no
need for any further analysis.
Heck, I run SO2R from home with my TH3jr at 15' and my vertical. It's cool,
but I'm not going to win anything from here so, it would be meaningless in
the summary.
SO2R requires more skill - not just more equipment.
If all that was required was more equipment, I could stack up six rigs and
guarantee an SS win - right?
Wrong!
I find myself agreeing with KQ2M on this.
N5NJ
----- Original Message -----
From: <W0uo@cs.com>
To: <kr6x@kr6x.com>; <CQ-CONTEST@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> KR6X,
>
> With all due respect, lets look at what I said:
>
> The quickest way to expose {an advantage, or lack thereof}, is to include
it
> in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage
exists
> within just a few months.
> >
> > If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect
between
> SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two
> major contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year
> to require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. (If SO2R
is
> the cause of an advantage}, one would expect the advantage to either be
> substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
> >
> > Sound like a fair test?
>
> Now, lets state two hypothesis. H0: SO2R is not a significant
advantage
> in contesting. H1: SO2R is a significant advantage in contesting.
Testing
> these hypotheses requires an experimental design. The simplest design,
but
> not the only one and maybe not the best, is to run two contests, one with
> current rules, one with a 3 minute band change limit for both SO1R and
SO2R.
> I could, but will not here, state a decision rule. It should be easy
for
> anyone with a background in statistics. Suffice it to say, if factors
other
> than SO2R are more significant, it will be born out in the measurements.
> There is no other way to end this argument. Them that have want to
keep
> it that way, them that do not want to (or cannot) invest the extra $3,000
or
> so that it takes to SO2R right want it changed.
> It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a significant advantage.
> Its time we found out.
>
> 73 de Jim
> W0UO/5
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>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Thu Apr 25 00:46:48 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
References: <Springmail.0994.1019003831.0.22034700@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
<005a01c1e5f3$d6c23530$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Message-ID: <023401c1ebd1$28b33550$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Today I got an impressive letter from Dick Norton, N6AA, member of CQWW
Contest Committee. He clearly showed me that I was was wrong in my
assumptions about mistakes in log checking and all the decisions of the
Committee were VERY CLEARLY reasoned and VERY WELL analyzed.
I want to apologize for any possible indirect accusations I made and for any
doubts I had in the accuracy of the log checking procedure. Iam more than
convinced now that this is an enormous job those guys are doing and I am
very impressed by the standards they have set and by the methods they use.
It goes far beyond what we see in UBN and NIL reports!
Dick clearly explained me that I was the only station working LY3BH actually
as the others were clear -Bs and it was quite certain that LY3BH was not in
the air. I confirmed it also having exchanged some emails with LY stations.
EA8ZC was actually us duping EA8ZS (the duplicate contact was in EA8ZS log!)
He proved me that several other -Bs that were worked by many stations
besides us were really with no doubt -Bs!
He admitted that F8BTQ was probably correct QSO and credit for it will be
restored in the
final run that will determine the score listed in the magazine. That was
probably one of the only errors in the log checking.
He also pointed my attention to the several U calls that should actually
have been marked -B!
There were some 20 of them! I guess you all have been thinking while looking
at the U calls in the UBN report that "Was I really the only one to work
this station or did I mess up the call but was just lucky to hit an existing
one???!!!" Well I have thought so and it felt like a gift of some kind
always!
So the actual subject of my intial posting should have been: "We submitted
the ES9C log with almost 10,000 QSOs, and it had one contact that appeared
to be incorrectly marked -B. There were at least 20 claimed QSOs that should
have been marked -B, but were not"
:)
So no more whining about the UBNs, lets try to be more accurate ourselves
and big thanks to those guys who have been striving to make our favourite
contest what it is!
73
Tonno
ES5TV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tonno Vahk" <tonno.vahk@mail.ee>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
> As far as UBNs were mentioned I might say that I noticed quite a few -B
> calls in our ES9C M/M UBN report that were actually absolutely fine and
> existing calls and had been worked by many stations - 30, 40, or even
more.
> There was seemingly no reason to determine them -B (no Wn or anything). I
> know for sure some of them were OK QSOs as I even remember them. Like my
> first QSO on 20m -
>
> 1 -B ly3bh(3) ly3by(1224)ww ly3bx(850)n ly3be(644)ww ly3bg(108) w3bh(2)
>
> It's a well-known contester from LY and we even chatted a few words in the
> beginning of the contest. He has only made a few QSOs as I suspect he
worked
> in some M/S team maybe...
>
> Another example on 20m:
>
> 2183 -B f8btq(17) f8bqq(552)h f8bdq(21) f8bvq(8) hb9btq(147) py7btq(6)
>
> and on 10m:
>
> 269 -B ea8zc(5) ea8zs(4250)ww ea8zz(12) ea8jc(7)
>
> It is a bit irritating actually, don't know if anybody else has noticed
> it...
>
> 73
> Tonno
> ES5TV
>
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>From hwardsil1 at mindspring.com Wed Apr 24 18:45:17 2002
From: hwardsil1@mindspring.com (hwardsil1@mindspring.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Honor Sprint - Not This Year
Message-ID: <Springmail.0994.1019684717.0.01296800@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
After inquiring about interest in running an Honor Sprint in May, I only got a
handful of responses, so I am not going to sponsor an Honor Sprint this year.
Sorry about that!
One idea that did come up was that of running a "doubleheader" sprint, with 2
hours on 10-15 in the morning and 2 hours on 20-40 in the evening. I might do
that some other time.
73, Ward N0AX
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Wed Apr 24 16:06:18 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <00c601c1ebdc$43c019c0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Mike --
Beyond the issue of whether SO2R deserves a category by itself
there's a new one that is seldom mentioned.
If a contest sponsor were to create an SO2R category, then would
there be any way to enforce it? Or could the sponsor simply be
creating a new way to cheat?
Admittedly, if the two rigs are on two different bands one could
draw inferences from the number of bandchanges that occur.
But SO2R can be implemented using two rigs and two antennas
on the same band in a few cases. It might sound far fetched on
the surface, but the cross-rig interference potential isn't completely
insurmountable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:31
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> On Tue, 23 April 2002, W0uo@cs.com wrote
>
> > It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a
> > significant advantage. Its time we found out.
>
> This is the wrong question.
>
> No one said that SO2R was not an advantage. From what
> I've read, most agree that it is a significant
> advantage. Anything that provides a detectable
> improvement to one's score is a "significant"
> advantage - IOW, one worth undertaking. If it wasn't
> an advantage, why would anyone bother doing it?
>
> The right question is: Does SO2R warrant a separate
> category (and why)? The number of things providing
> (significant or otherwise) advantage is virtually
> endless and they have been listed here ad nauseum.
> Virtually none of them have a distinct category. Why
> does SO2R stand out in some minds? I sense it is not
> simply because it offers an advantage. To me it
> almost seems like it is simply because it is a
> politically-correct-to-question operating technique.
>
> Is it a bolt-on advantage like an amplifier? No, SO2R
> requires a high degree of skill to use. Is it like
> packet? No, all advantages from SO2R come from within
> one's own efforts. Is it like having big antennas
> (which generally have no separate category)? No, most
> of the work required to extract an advantage from big
> antennas is done well before the contest period.
>
> 73 Mike N2MG
>
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>From 107770.3462 at compuserve.com Wed Apr 24 22:26:56 2002
From: 107770.3462@compuserve.com (James P. Cassidy)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Honor Sprint
Message-ID: <200204242127_MC3-FB4C-FF8D@compuserve.com>
OK Ward, Sorry there wasn't more interest. N6TR will just have to put up
with the lack of action. Maybe use the contest simulator.
73 Jim KI7Y
>From n2mg at contesting.com Wed Apr 24 19:29:09 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID:
<20020424182911.27816.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Wed, 24 April 2002, Jimk8mr@aol.com wrote
> For years one had to, from time to time, abandon a
> run frequency to find the many multipliers...
> <snip>
> With SO2R the savvy operator just keeps CQing away,
> while finding and working those mults on his second
> radio. That run frequency never becomes available
> for anyone else.
>
At the risk of not knowing the answer to a question
before I ask it, I wonder how true this is? It would
be good to compare the logs of top SO1R and SO2R
stations and compare the "park time" on a given run
freq.
Although I may be wrong, I suspect, just like the
difference in total score, the effect of SO2R on
frequency occupation is less than some imagine.
SO2R guys are generally NOT working mults on the same
band they are CQing on. So if they are CQing on 10m
and want to hunt mults on 10m (a typical move for an
SO1R guy), most SO2R ops are going to have to start
CQing on 15m - freeing up the 10m run freq. "Savvy"
SO2R guys move around on the bands a lot.
> Tuning up and down a band listening to the same guys
> CQing gets old quickly.
You can't possibly mean to suggest that the SO2R guys
are to blame for this?
> Check out the phone DX contests in about 4 years
> when we don't have 900 KHz
> of useful spectrum on 28 MHz...
This happens every cycle. IMO, there will be little
clear distinction between the zoo that will exist on
20m with or without there being SO2R operations.
> I see no harm in making available the information on
> who is using it.
Let's list all the pertinent info, then - the ARRL
would "only" publish it on the web anyway (where
bandwidth is "cheap"). Let's list all the antennas,
amplifiers, DSP equipment, auto-switching
arrangements, whether or not the operator had his
meals served to him, or had a bathroom within 15 feet
of the shack, etc.
Mike N2MG
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>From ve4xt at mts.net Wed Apr 24 21:46:52 2002
From: ve4xt@mts.net (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
<000801c1ebcb$ea1026a0$13ed83d1@office>
Message-ID: <008801c1ebfb$13dc2e00$0100a8c0@joe>
Comparing SO2R and assisted is not a fair analogy. Packet requires no skill,
involves the assistance of others and makes mult hunting the equivalent of
shooting fish in a barrel.
SO2R requires considerable skill, involves no outside assistance and makes
mult hunting EVEN MORE difficult as singly you must juggle numerous stimuli
while still making sense of what you're sending and what you're receiving,
often in both ears at once.
You can't buy SO2R, no matter how much money you throw at Yaecomwood and
WX0B. This notion that somehow you buy a second radio and all of a sudden
you're God's gift to contesting is patently false. It is very difficult. It
requires an operator to be highly proficient at all we hold dear. To
marginalize their efforts by forcing them into a secluded playing field is
to discourage excellence. Funny how you don't hear the Toronto Blue Jays
demanding that the New York Yankees be placed into a different category.
Now, creating an SO1R category that operators could voluntarily enter --
assuming they are indeed using only one radio -- gives an out to people who
choose, for whatever reason, to compete at a different level while
preserving the high standards of the main single op category. It's a
win-win. People who feel cheated by SO2R can now compete amongst like-minded
individuals while those who want to measure themselves against the best can
continue to do so. I suspect the majority of ops would remain in the main
category irrespective of how many radios they are running.
Remember the category refers to single OPERATOR. Even if he has three
radios, there's still just ONE operator.
> SO2R should be a category on its own, just like the "assisted" notion we
now
embrace as "logical."
Ford-N?FP
ford@cmgate.com
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>From k5ka at earthlink.net Wed Apr 24 21:48:14 2002
From: k5ka@earthlink.net (Ken Adams K5KA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO1R vs SO2R
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20020424204814.006d4ecc@earthlink.net>
This seems to come up every few months and the solution
that is always promoted is to create a new category for
SO2R. Instead of waiting for a sponsor to do that (which
won't happen), why not sponsor a plaque for SO1R ?
That's easy to do in every contest and it is something that
you have under your own control.
Ken K5KA
>From je1cka at jzap.com Thu Apr 25 12:19:26 2002
From: je1cka@jzap.com (Tack Kumagai)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums (JIDX CW)
In-Reply-To: Tree N6TR's message of "Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:56:13 -0700"
<200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
References: <200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <200204250219.LAA24615@ne.nal.go.jp>
In message "[CQ-Contest] April doldrums"
on 02/04/24, Tree N6TR <tree@kkn.net> writes:
:
:
: Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
:
: We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
Oh!! Please do not forget the JIDX HFCW contest in 2nd full weekend.
This JIDX HFCW contest will be JIDX CW contest in 2003.
LFCW(2nd wkend in Jan) and HFCW(2nd wkend in Apr) will be merged
into one CW contest. The complete rule will be announced soon.
---------
JIDX contest committee chairman
Tack Kumagai JE1CKA/KH0AM
Email: jidx-chairman@ne.nal.go.jp
http://je1cka.jzap.com/jidx/
>From k0il at arrl.net Wed Apr 24 23:01:59 2002
From: k0il@arrl.net (Ed - K0iL)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Nebraska QSO Party Reminder
Message-ID: <01C1EBDB.A99405A0.k0il@arrl.net>
Being a little more low key here in Nebraska, this'll be the only last
minute reminder you'll get on the reflector about:
*** The Nebraska QSO Party ***
April 27th & 28th
1700 zulu Saturday to 1700 zulu Sunday
For complete rules, details and paperwork go to:
http://www.qsl.net/hdxa/neqso/
If you live near Nebraska and have mobile HF capabilities, come on over and
have some fun running counties. A ham from Oregon is flying in to operate
portable from Burt County Saturday and Cumming county on Sunday morning.
The rest of ya should just get on the air this weekend and work every
Nebraska Station you run across! You'll feel better afterwards.
Special Nebraska Stations to look out for:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
W7DRA/p - Mike will be portable in Burt & Cumming counties.
KG0KR - Beth. Local mobile op gives out several counties each year.
K0AIR - Strategic Air Command Memorial Club will be operating again from
Douglas County's EOC underground.
K0iL - Douglas County (not rare unless you need it!)
Just Call "CQ N-F QP" or maybe F-N QP. Or if you're lookin' for a real
challenge, just hunt for the NQP stations! But just work it! See you in
the Parties.
73,
de ed -K0iL
HDXA V.P.
-.-. --.- .... .- -- ... -.. . -.- ----- .. .-.. -.-
Ed Edwards -- K0iL
PO Box 375
Elkhorn, NE 68022-0375 k0il@qsl.net
Visit my web site: http://www.qsl.net/k0il
or HDXA's web site: http://www.qsl.net/hdxa
--... ...-- . ... --. .-.. - --- ..- --- -- ...-.- . .
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by Roger Welsch. Recommended NQP Reading List
>From va3uz at rac.ca Thu Apr 25 00:26:29 2002
From: va3uz@rac.ca (VA3UZ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <20020420042905.25369.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00e301c1ec0d$f2970cc0$0201a8c0@yuri>
>
> Yes. All contesters (callsign) will be on culsters.
> The contest program will make a callsign-map per band.
> We can see the call-map on monitor. We will no need
> any hunting (mults, etc.). The logging program will
> know what we needed. Perhaps a "help-program" will be
> able to make some important mults for us WITHOUT US.
> And finally we will no need to fight 40-48 hours non
> stop, it will be enough to check our PC by hours. Or
> it will be enough to push a BIG ENTER at the start of
> the contest...(??) This is the future of contesting.
>
>
> 73
> Zoli
> HA5PP
>
Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be definitely
out of it.
Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
>From tavan at tibco.com Wed Apr 24 22:20:10 2002
From: tavan@tibco.com (Rick Tavan)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
References: <200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <3CC783F9.ACC2FD84@tibco.com>
OK, Tree, your assignment for April is to make the trlog simulator simulate
SO2R.
/Rick N6XI
Tree N6TR wrote:
> Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
>
> We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
>
> But - with the exception of the Poisson D'Avril contest on the
> first, there just doesn't seem to be much going on.
>
> It really makes it hard for us two radio guys to keep our skills
> in shape.
>
> At any rate - if anyone does know of any contests coming up this
> weekend, that might not be well publicized, please let me know.
> Maybe the Podunk Stew Perry Kid's QSO Party Sprint or something...
>
> 73 Tree N6TR
> tree@kkn.net
>From rv1aw at inbox.ru Thu Apr 25 10:22:22 2002
From: rv1aw@inbox.ru (Andrey Karpov)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Praha (OK)
Message-ID: <E170bi2-0009TM-00@f4.mail.ru>
I'm going to be in Praha with wife from 28th April until 5th May for rest.
We'll be staying in "CHODSKA" hotel. I'd love to get together with other
contesters in the area. If you're interested in gathering, please drop me a
mail.
73! Andrei Karpov RV1AW & RU1A
>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Apr 25 05:27:44 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <000201c1ec22$e0d23400$6a3dfa43@computer>
QUACK's
Gosh I'm sure we had this same discussion Last year and The year before
etc:
How many times we gonna have to read this STUFF
Nuff Said Already
Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Sutcliffe" <ums@nconnect.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 13:06
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> Radio contesting is unfair. Someone with better antennas, radios,
location,
> etc. will always have an advantage over an equivalent operator with a
> lesser station. That's life. Or, maybe it is just a natural part of a
> competition that encourages innovation.
>
> The one thing about SO2R is that just writing a check and adding SO2R
> capabilities to your station will not give you the automatic improvement
> that other equipment upgrades would. You have to put the effort in to
learn
> to do it effectively. IMHO, SO2R is the major change in contesting that is
> mostly based on operator skill.
>
> I think we should applaud those who put the effort in to operate SO2R
> effectively. We should also applaud those who work to improve other
> contesting skills like pulling weak ones out of the noise, better typing
> skills, better pileup techniques, better run skills, better S&P skills,
> etc. I don't see a whole lot of difference.
>
> 73 - Gary, W9XT (whose limited moves into SO2R have probably cost more
> QSO's than they gained :-)
>
>
> ____________
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> http://www.QTH.com/w9xt Slinger, WI 53086
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>From i4jmy at iol.it Thu Apr 25 13:09:05 2002
From: i4jmy@iol.it (Maurizio Panicara)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
References: <Springmail.0994.1019003831.0.22034700@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
<005a01c1e5f3$d6c23530$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
<023401c1ebd1$28b33550$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Message-ID: <002801c1ec41$434354c0$42941a97@i4jmy>
The CQWWDX is definitely my favourite contest also because of the great job
that's behind, the accurate log checking and the respect I've for the huge
effort of the committee.
The weak point in the system is not the log checking procedure, the best
possible, but the fact that known that logs will be analyzed, a number of
logs are actually "revised" (i.e. QSO removed to fit with some rule) and
"corrected" (officially against so called typos, hi) before submission.
I've been told of logs fully rewised with tape recordings, but also
statistically, against databases of previous contests or cross checked with
several logs of the contest in object.
Stated that either behaviours aren't in the rules but exist, it probably
happens that many unique calls (I mean self found uniques) are statistically
corrected into a "most probable call" by many, choosing to correct the
"typo" into a call with higher recurrence in previous contests. Like this,
the same procedure used by many with similar databases, a fake but valid qso
will be created if that station didn't enter the contest at all, or the
"ex-unique" didn't send his log.
In the same way, stated that a removed qso isn't in the log, it's hard to
verify (or prove) that originally it was.
73,
Mauri I4JMY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tonno Vahk" <tonno.vahk@mail.ee>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:46 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
> Today I got an impressive letter from Dick Norton, N6AA, member of CQWW
> Contest Committee. He clearly showed me that I was was wrong in my
> assumptions about mistakes in log checking and all the decisions of the
> Committee were VERY CLEARLY reasoned and VERY WELL analyzed.
>
> I want to apologize for any possible indirect accusations I made and for
any
> doubts I had in the accuracy of the log checking procedure. Iam more than
> convinced now that this is an enormous job those guys are doing and I am
> very impressed by the standards they have set and by the methods they use.
> It goes far beyond what we see in UBN and NIL reports!
>
> Dick clearly explained me that I was the only station working LY3BH
actually
> as the others were clear -Bs and it was quite certain that LY3BH was not
in
> the air. I confirmed it also having exchanged some emails with LY
stations.
>
> EA8ZC was actually us duping EA8ZS (the duplicate contact was in EA8ZS
log!)
>
> He proved me that several other -Bs that were worked by many stations
> besides us were really with no doubt -Bs!
>
> He admitted that F8BTQ was probably correct QSO and credit for it will be
> restored in the
> final run that will determine the score listed in the magazine. That was
> probably one of the only errors in the log checking.
>
> He also pointed my attention to the several U calls that should actually
> have been marked -B!
> There were some 20 of them! I guess you all have been thinking while
looking
> at the U calls in the UBN report that "Was I really the only one to work
> this station or did I mess up the call but was just lucky to hit an
existing
> one???!!!" Well I have thought so and it felt like a gift of some kind
> always!
>
> So the actual subject of my intial posting should have been: "We submitted
> the ES9C log with almost 10,000 QSOs, and it had one contact that appeared
> to be incorrectly marked -B. There were at least 20 claimed QSOs that
should
> have been marked -B, but were not"
>
> :)
>
> So no more whining about the UBNs, lets try to be more accurate ourselves
> and big thanks to those guys who have been striving to make our favourite
> contest what it is!
>
> 73
> Tonno
> ES5TV
>From tautvydas at achema.com Thu Apr 25 14:40:07 2002
From: tautvydas@achema.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tautvydas_Misi=FBnas?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] e-QSL change of policy
Message-ID: <00ad01c1ec4d$f880ebc0$a800a8c0@tautvydas>
I became e-QSL system user a while ago and it worked perfectly up to this
major change done.Sorry,but now my inbox size reached maybe 500 QSO's and I
can do nothing:my attempts to upload ADIF files are vain-just very small
files with less than 100 QSO's get through,larger do not!
E-QSL page became extermely slow,maybe due to sharply increased
attendance.This system needs radical upgrade to use it safely and easily.DAT
and DTA files should be accepted for sure.
e-QSLing is our future definitely and system is in transition now .As
financing to develope it is needed ,subsribtion system must be introduced.
My appologies to the guys who are waiting my return e-QSL,maybe it will
be possible one day...
73 ,Ted,LY2OX
>From k8do at amethyst.diamondcs.net Thu Apr 25 09:01:35 2002
From: k8do@amethyst.diamondcs.net (Dennis O'Connor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
<E170SrW-0004AP-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <002d01c1ec50$f817c250$20996c40@gq7mb01>
An opthalmologist! And here I thought you were a real doctor....
Denny - GP for a quarter century...
<snicker>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
> On 24 Apr 02, at 10:06, Bob, N5RP wrote:
>
> > At 09:45 4/24/2002 -0400, Bill Fisher, W4AN wrote:
> > >I'm passing this along so you will be aware of this possibility . . .
> > >
> > >For the past four or five years when I operated in contests, I got
> > >blurred vision.
> > <snip>
> > =========================>
> > Yes, as Bill mentions, the torture on the eyes from hamming in front
> > of computers presents some real dangers and problems to our aging
> > community.
> >
> > I've done some research on this very problem for my own benefit, and
> > my wife, for my benefit, has done some looking around for information
> > on the subject, as well.
> >
> > Before I dare get in trouble for "impersonating" a professional by
> > mentioning what I came to discover on the subject, are there any
> > professionals out there in the commercial interior design or medical
> > arena that might wish to comment on the ergonomics of a properly
> > designed station layout as it applies to eye strain and eye damage to
> > our aging contest community? . Bob Perring
> > ........................................... Amateur Radio Station
> > N5RP mailto:N5RP@pdq.net N5RP Station Page:
> > http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
> >
>
> Ergonomics of computer use - nothing earth-shattering here. The
> monitor should be at eye level, not above. This is more to prevent
> neck problems than eye problems. The focusing muscles in the
> eyes contract to focus close up, such as on a monitor. This does
> no harm, but may lead to "eyestrain" or headache. The focusing
> muscles relax to their resting state when you look across the room
> - not a bad idea to do this periodically. If you are over 40-45, and
> you don't wear glasses, you probably will need them for extended
> close work. If you do wear glasses already for distance, you
> probably will need correction for close work.
>
> Glaucoma - Glaucoma is a disease of optic nerve damage that can
> lead to blindness without treatment. There are many kinds of
> glaucoma. The most common type is open-angle glaucoma
> (90+%). It is slowly progressive over months to years. In its early
> stages, it is usually without symptoms. By the time you notice a
> "blind spot" in your vision, about 90% of your field of vision is gone
> and cannot be recovered. It is usually treated with eye drops,
> sometimes with laser, sometimes with surgery.
> Narrow (or closed) angle glaucoma is much less common, but is a
> medical emergency, often leading to blindness within a few days, if
> not treated. Symptoms may include pain, redness, blurry vision
> and headache. It most often occurs in dim lighting, such as movie
> theaters and ham shacks. The "glaucoma attack" may be initially
> treated with medication, then followed by laser, which is usually
> curative.
> 2% of Americans of European descent have glaucoma. 10% of
> Americans of African descent have glaucoma. It often runs in
> families, but not necessarily.
>
> If you are over 40, have your eyes examined every 2 years, even if
> you have no problems with them. If you are diabetic, make that
> every year.
>
> 73,
> Dr. Barry, W2UP
>
> Disclaimer - I am an ophthalmologist licensed to practice medicine
> in PA and NJ. This e-mail is general information only and should
> not be interpreted as medical advice or the practice of medicine.
>
> --
> Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>
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>From tgardner at glcc.com Thu Apr 25 09:19:32 2002
From: tgardner@glcc.com (Tim Gardner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Indiana QSO Party - May 4
Message-ID: <scc7bc1e.058@USGSFS01.g-l.com>
Greetings all,
Just a reminder that the Indiana QSO Party is coming
next weekend ? May 4, 2002.
Please check out the completely revamped website at
www.hdxcc.org/inqp for all the details, rules and
links for free logging software.
We know of planned operations that will put about 75%
of Indiana's 92 counties on the air. If you know of
others, please let us know by sending email to
inqp@hdxcc.org. You will find a map showing all the
operations known to us on our web site (check the
"Activity" link).
'73
Tim - N9LF
>From k8do at amethyst.diamondcs.net Thu Apr 25 09:34:10 2002
From: k8do@amethyst.diamondcs.net (Dennis O'Connor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <cb.211a4d32.29f72b81@aol.com>
<002901c1eb19$6561c2e0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Message-ID: <00ba01c1ec55$838fcfe0$20996c40@gq7mb01>
Leigh, like you I am always interested in new ideas... But this one I
love... You run an SO8R and I will follow you around... I can probably make
a good living off the guys answering your run radio that you don't hear on
the first call... In fact, that gives me an idea for a new catagory... Two
station, single frequency contesting... I will call it TS, for short...
Just think of the possibilities... More than one station working a
frequency... Think of the increase in scores...Think of the camraderie as we
all work the same DX station on the same frequency... This would be real
TS...
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com>
To: <ALANNOTTAGE@aol.com>; <CQ-CONTEST@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> Right idea, but the wrong definition. 8 radios and 8 towers wouldn't even
> be competitive as a multi-multi station. But SO8R, now you're talking!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ALANNOTTAGE@aol.com>
> To: <kr6x@kr6x.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 14:26
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>
> > How about FOR - 'full-on radio' i.e 8 radios and 8 towers!!!!
> >
> > Al G0XBV
> >
>
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>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:12:32 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
Message-ID: <20020425141358.NMXQ962.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/24/02 3:56 PM, Tree N6TR at tree@kkn.net wrote:
>Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
Isn't this because Dayton was traditionally held in April?
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From w4au at contesting.com Thu Apr 25 10:10:25 2002
From: w4au@contesting.com (John Unger)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
In-Reply-To: <200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020425090623.00c10c30@gsvaresm01.er.usgs.gov>
Tree -
I think the Florida QSO Party is coming up sometime soon, but that usually
conflicts with Dayton, doesn't it? Also I may be confused after reading all the
messages on this reflector, but I believe that the new FQP rules do not allow
SO2R stations this year unless they append their calls with /SO2R.
73 - John, W4AU
At 12:56 4/24/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
>
>We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
>
>But - with the exception of the Poisson D'Avril contest on the
>first, there just doesn't seem to be much going on.
>
>It really makes it hard for us two radio guys to keep our skills
>in shape.
>
>At any rate - if anyone does know of any contests coming up this
>weekend, that might not be well publicized, please let me know.
>Maybe the Podunk Stew Perry Kid's QSO Party Sprint or something...
>
>73 Tree N6TR
>tree@kkn.net
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>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 25 07:11:28 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID:
<20020425061129.26490.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Wed, 24 April 2002, "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" wrote
> If a contest sponsor were to create an SO2R
> category, then would there be any way to enforce
> it? Or could the sponsor simply be creating a new
> way to cheat?
While a valid point, this would not be unique to an
SO2R category. Almost ALL categories (hell, even your
state/section) are essentially unenforceable.
> Admittedly, if the two rigs are on two different
> bands one could draw inferences from the number of
> bandchanges that occur.
While there is surely a high correlation between the
number and timing of band changes and SO2R operation,
(hell, there is already freeware that proports to tell
one how many "second radio" QSOs were made) it *is*
possible for one radio (even a radio with one VFO knob
like a 940), one autotune amp and automatic antenna
switching to be used to nab QSOs on bands other than
the one being CQed on. Not nearly as efficient or
effective as true SO2R, but the results in the log
would be fairly similar.
My guess is that anyone "cheating" an SO2R rule is out
of the running anyway. I think most guys would be
proud of the fact that they ran it!
> But SO2R can be implemented using two rigs and two
> antennas on the same band in a few cases. It might
> sound far fetched on the surface, but the cross-rig
> interference potential isn't completely
> insurmountable.
While admittedly not trivial, this is definitely do-
able (being done currently by at least one multi-op
station).
73 Mike N2MG
________________________________________________
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>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 25 07:23:26 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
Message-ID:
<20020425062328.27396.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Tonno,
I, too, have had several correspondences with the CQWW
committee and/or log checking folks. Each of the
responses I received was courteous and enlightening.
The more I learned (directly from them and not from
speculation on the reflector), the more I realized
these guys know what the hell they are doing. The
techniques are logical and well constructed. And,
might I add, apparently still very closely scrutinized
by humans.
It's only too bad that they haven't figured out a way
to make a public document describing some of their
techniques without giving away their, excuse the
term, "secrets". They understandably want to avoid
folks attempting to "wash" their logs based on the
criteria.
Mike N2MG
On Wed, 24 April 2002, "Tonno Vahk" wrote
>
> Today I got an impressive letter from Dick Norton,
N6AA, member of CQWW
> Contest Committee. He clearly showed me that I was
was wrong in my
> assumptions about mistakes in log checking and all
the decisions of the
> Committee were VERY CLEARLY reasoned and VERY WELL
analyzed.
>
> I want to apologize for any possible indirect
accusations I made and for any
> doubts I had in the accuracy of the log checking
procedure. Iam more than
> convinced now that this is an enormous job those guys
are doing and I am
> very impressed by the standards they have set and by
the methods they use.
> It goes far beyond what we see in UBN and NIL reports!
________________________________________________
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http://www.peoplepc.com
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:53:08 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425145434.BEQW12902.imf16bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/24/02 12:33 AM, Leigh S. Jones at kr6x@kr6x.com wrote:
>With the average modern new transceiver price being
>around $3500-$5000, the modern competitive amplifier
>new price $2500-$4000, and the remaining hardware
>required to go to full SO2R around $500-$1000, the
>price of adding SO2R capability to an existing station
>can range between $7500 and $10,000.
Horsepucky.
You don't NEED a NEW transceiver for SO2R. A second-hand radio will do
just fine.
You don't NEED an amplifier for SO2R. If you don't like going barefoot,
even a modest amplifier will provide some cover.
You need some switching, perhaps some filtering, and a second tranceiver.
You can probably add SO2R capability to an existing station for
$500-1000, easily. Maybe to $1500 if you insist on having an amplifier.
If you've already got $10,000 in your station (for the first radio and
antennas), another $1000 isn't much.
Me? I can't afford a $10,000 ham station.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:21:11 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425142237.LNET28927.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/23/02 1:46 PM, w0uo@cs.com at w0uo@cs.com wrote:
>The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to include it
>in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage
>exists within just a few months.
While the contest sponsors don't report it in every case, you'll find
that the forms for the 3830 list DO have a field for SO2R operation.
It wouldn't be hard to correlate the listings on 3830 with the contest
results.
(And what about the RTTY contest guys who run SO3R?)
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 12:06:48 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425150814.TQOW20943.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/24/02 4:09 PM, Ford Peterson at ford@cmgate.com wrote:
>SO2R is to contesting what running two fishing lines is to a fishing
>contest.
Not exactly. SO2R doesn't mean you can transmit on both similtaneously.
You are still constrained to have one transmitted signal on the air at
one time.
It's more like having two fishing lines where only one line is in the
water at a time....
>Comparing a station with two radios to a station with one radio is not a
>fair comparison.
No? I have two radios. (Just built an Elecraft K2) I don't see any
single-radio operators quaking in their boots over it.
>Comparing a station with a beam and a dipole is very
>comparable to a station with 6 mono banders. In each case, only one antenna
>gets used at a time.
Define "used".
And I disagree. A tribander and a dipole is not comparable to multiple
tribanders or monoband antennas. In fact, the CQ WPX committee agrees
with me. That's why they have the TS category. Even so, there's a huge
difference in the "T". A Butternut HF5B isn't comparable to a Force12
C51XR.
>SO2R is more akin to multi-multi operation than a multi-single.
Not at all. Only one transmitted signal. Only one operator. I don't see
any relation at all to the multi-operator categories.
However, a Multi-Single station configuration often makes an adequate
SO2R station.
> To compare
>SO2R to a single op-single radio is quite unfair.
Not at all. It's just one guy with more equipment!
> There is nothing
>"political" about it. It's simple physics, rudimentary probabilities, basic
>ergonomics.
Poppycock.
>SO2R should be a category on its own, just like the "assisted" notion we now
>embrace as "logical."
No! Assisted involves having some other person do spotting of stations
for you. SO2R is ONE guy. UNO! What's worse, he's got more hardware to
manage.
Further, modern radios really confuse the SO2R issue. Is a guy using an
FT-1000 using two radios? The MP can receive in two portions of the same
band, and the FT-1000D can receive on two different bands? The new TenTec
Orion may make the whole situation worse (Unlike the Yeasu, it is unclear
if the Orion blanks both receivers during transmit).
Look again. The category is "Single Operator". The contest sponsors
typically make no mention of how much equipment he is using. So long as
the condition of one transmitted signal at any one time, appropriate
power level, and assistance (or lack thereof), there is no reason to make
a different category just because someone listens to more than one
receiver at a time.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:28:04 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425142930.OYGG15548.imf02bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/23/02 5:05 PM, aa4ga@hemc.net at aa4ga@hemc.net wrote:
>Uh, who says SO2R isn't an advantage? Of course it is to those doing
>it, or they wouldn't be doing it.
Not exactly, Lee. Certainly the operator must perceive it to be an
advantage, or they wouldn't do it. I think it takes considerable skill
for it to be a true advantage. And some SO2R operators don't perform as
well as SO1R operators.
>Some folks don't have the typing skills to utilize the computer
>logging advantage, and some folks don't have the multi-tasking skills
>to utilize the SO2R advantage.
W4AN's comment to me, when I tried SO2R operating in the 1995 SS SSB was
"you can't learn to do this in a single contest." Bill has literally
spent weeks in the shack chair, making casual QSOs on one rig while
listening with on ear to another radio. It's much harder than it sounds.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:46:59 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425144826.QKRA14245.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/23/02 7:11 PM, Leigh S. Jones, KR6X at kr6x@kr6x.com wrote:
>Only those who are already scoring
>near the top of the listings would consider spending the extra
>money for a second transceiver, a second amplifier, any
>filters required, etc., and then doing the extra work of
>separating feedlines, stacked antennas, and system grounds
>plus running the extra radio interface cables from the logging
>computer to the transceivers.
Seems like this is a mis-conception as well. Why do the two stations have
to be equal? Consider - to get benefit from SO2R, do you really need a
top-of-the-line transceiver? Do you really need a second amplifier? Do
you really need equivalent antennas for both stations?
If you already have a very competitive contest station -- do you really
need to double it for SO2R? I don't think so. There's several scenarios.
Consider:
A) The second radio will be used virtually exclusively for S & P. Do you
need an amplifier for this? Seems one could make virtually the same
number of QSOs barefoot S & P as one could with an amp. And if there's
some important multiplier to be had, perhaps bringing radio one to bear
might be worth the trouble.
B) Since you're not calling CQ, aren't you less likely to be digging out
really weak callers on the second radio? Perhaps you don't need such an
elaborate transceiver, or big stacks of antennas. Perhaps just adding a
single tribander and a couple of dipoles would be sufficient, or even one
of those multi-band vertical dummy loads might work. (W4AN used an R5 for
second radio practice) A second-hand radio might do passibly well, or
perhaps a miniature mobile rig. (K4OGG moves his mobile HF radio to the
shack for contests)
C) Can you leverage your existing antenna system? W4AN didn't add a
single antenna to run SO2R at his superstation. Why? He's got a single
feedline for each band. Antennas are easily switched from one radio to
the other. If you already have monoband antennas on every band, you don't
need more antennas.
--
I'm working to add SO2R operation to my very modest station on a tight
budget. I have no amplifier(s). I'm looking to improve my low-power
scores. I recently built a K2 (which will become a K2-100 soon), and
already have an old TS-430S. At low power, I don't appear to need any
filters. Antennas are modest -- an A3S at 49.5', 80m doublet, 40m sloper,
R7000.
I refuse to believe that my modest SO2R configuration is somehow so
competitive that SO1R operators don't stand a chance and need to be moved
to another category.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 25 09:32:57 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
Message-ID:
<20020425083258.27251.h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Tree N6TR wrote:
> Anyone notice how there just aren't any real
> contests in April?
I thought the FQP happened in April. Maybe I'm
wrong... I should look it up somewhere.
Besides, maybe that's not a "real" contest...
OJ? ;-)
________________________________________________
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http://www.peoplepc.com
>From n5nj at gte.net Thu Apr 25 11:24:57 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (Bob Naumann - N5NJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
References:
<20020425062328.27396.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <071a01c1ec6d$5c0b0120$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
Mike,
I think this recent thread is doing a great deal to clear up many
misconceptions about the log checking process and the UBN reports.
It seems the three main points that are misunderstood are that:
1) B means 'BAD QSO" and not necessarily a "bad" or non-existent callsign
2) Uniques DO NOT cost you points from your score.
3) If someone else logs your call incorrectly, they lose points - not you.
Regarding number 1, often a callsign is logged which is indeed a good
callsign - but it's marked B because that isn't who you worked!
73,
Bob N5NJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
To: <tonno.vahk@mail.ee>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
> Tonno,
>
> I, too, have had several correspondences with the CQWW
> committee and/or log checking folks. Each of the
> responses I received was courteous and enlightening.
>
> The more I learned (directly from them and not from
> speculation on the reflector), the more I realized
> these guys know what the hell they are doing. The
> techniques are logical and well constructed. And,
> might I add, apparently still very closely scrutinized
> by humans.
>
> It's only too bad that they haven't figured out a way
> to make a public document describing some of their
> techniques without giving away their, excuse the
> term, "secrets". They understandably want to avoid
> folks attempting to "wash" their logs based on the
> criteria.
>
> Mike N2MG
>
> On Wed, 24 April 2002, "Tonno Vahk" wrote
>
> >
> > Today I got an impressive letter from Dick Norton,
> N6AA, member of CQWW
> > Contest Committee. He clearly showed me that I was
> was wrong in my
> > assumptions about mistakes in log checking and all
> the decisions of the
> > Committee were VERY CLEARLY reasoned and VERY WELL
> analyzed.
> >
> > I want to apologize for any possible indirect
> accusations I made and for any
> > doubts I had in the accuracy of the log checking
> procedure. Iam more than
> > convinced now that this is an enormous job those guys
> are doing and I am
> > very impressed by the standards they have set and by
> the methods they use.
> > It goes far beyond what we see in UBN and NIL reports!
>
> ________________________________________________
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> http://www.peoplepc.com
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>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Thu Apr 25 11:10:49 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL.cc reverses policy
Message-ID: <017c01c1ec73$c413f140$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
April 24, 2002 -- eQSL.cc has removed its double blind requirement on the
eQSL inbox because the ARRL says that it will not accept its eQSLs for DXCC
awards and a large majority of their users wants things put back they way
they were. Read the complete announcement at
http://www.eqsl.org/qslcard/DXCCInfo.cfm
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Thu Apr 25 10:18:23 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Having the PC do all the work..
In-Reply-To: <00e301c1ec0d$f2970cc0$0201a8c0@yuri>
Message-ID: <20020425161823.53145.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com>
--- VA3UZ <va3uz@rac.ca> wrote: ..... it will be
enough to check our PC ..Or it will be enough to
push a BIG ENTER at the start of the
contest...(??) This is the future of contesting.
de k3ft (tongue firmly implanted into right
cheek)
Hit the 'big ENTER'.. let the PC do the work,
read the results at the end'..
This reminds me of a movie in the later 70's
entitled 'Colossus... The Forbin Project'.
73
Chuck K3FT
SO1R.. SO2R... the key.. after all is to
remember.. all the technology in the world CAN'T
beat someone who has experience, ability or a
great combination of both!
__________________________________________________
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Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more
http://games.yahoo.com/
>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Apr 25 17:59:25 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] e-QSL change of policy
Message-ID: <006b01c1ec72$52d67da0$891dfa43@computer>
Ted
As far as I know the only way eQSL will take files is in ADIF format. One
can also enter them one at at a time into the system on line.
GL and CU in next contest
Quack aka Rex K7QQ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tautvydas Misi?nas" <tautvydas@achema.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:40
Subject: [CQ-Contest] e-QSL change of policy
> I became e-QSL system user a while ago and it worked perfectly up to this
> major change done.Sorry,but now my inbox size reached maybe 500 QSO's and
I
> can do nothing:my attempts to upload ADIF files are vain-just very small
> files with less than 100 QSO's get through,larger do not!
> E-QSL page became extermely slow,maybe due to sharply increased
> attendance.This system needs radical upgrade to use it safely and
easily.DAT
> and DTA files should be accepted for sure.
> e-QSLing is our future definitely and system is in transition now .As
> financing to develope it is needed ,subsribtion system must be introduced.
> My appologies to the guys who are waiting my return e-QSL,maybe it will
> be possible one day...
> 73 ,Ted,LY2OX
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Apr 25 18:02:37 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <007201c1ec72$a31d0720$891dfa43@computer>
Quacks
OK but Gold nugget?????
----- Original Message -----
From: "K0LUZ" <k0luz@topsusa.com>
To: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 16:40
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
> GROWL!!!
>
> If you disconnect from the mailing list, that seems to drop the number of
> times you have to read it significantly. Otherwise, just endure like the
> rest of us and there might even be a gold nugget in there somewhere.
>
> GROWL!
>
> 73
> Red
> K0LUZ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> QUACK's
>
> Gosh I'm sure we had this same discussion Last year and The year before
> etc:
> How many times we gonna have to read this STUFF
> Nuff Said Already
> Rex
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Sutcliffe" <ums@nconnect.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 13:06
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>
> > Radio contesting is unfair. Someone with better antennas, radios,
> location,
> > etc. will always have an advantage over an equivalent operator with a
> > lesser station. That's life. Or, maybe it is just a natural part of a
> > competition that encourages innovation.
> >
> > The one thing about SO2R is that just writing a check and adding SO2R
> > capabilities to your station will not give you the automatic
improvement
> > that other equipment upgrades would. You have to put the effort in to
> learn
> > to do it effectively. IMHO, SO2R is the major change in contesting that
is
> > mostly based on operator skill.
> >
> > I think we should applaud those who put the effort in to operate SO2R
> > effectively. We should also applaud those who work to improve other
> > contesting skills like pulling weak ones out of the noise, better typing
> > skills, better pileup techniques, better run skills, better S&P skills,
> > etc. I don't see a whole lot of difference.
> >
> > 73 - Gary, W9XT (whose limited moves into SO2R have probably cost more
> > QSO's than they gained :-)
> >
> >
> > ____________
> > Gary Sutcliffe, W9XT Unified Microsystems
> > ums@nconnect.net PO Box 133
> > http://www.QTH.com/w9xt Slinger, WI 53086
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
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> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
>From k6ll at despammed.com Thu Apr 25 12:25:44 2002
From: k6ll@despammed.com (k6ll@despammed.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] consider this
Message-ID: <200204251625.LAA27938@despammed.com>
Recently, N6TR wrote:
I would like to point out that the CW Sprint lists the number of band
changes for the top ten stations. This easily shows who is using two
radios and how much they are using it.
Typically, one or two of the top ten are using one radio - with six or
less band changes. There are typically one or two stations up over 100
band changes in the same four hours.
--------------------------------
I think Tree has a good idea here
that should be expanded to other
contests.
The number of band changes can be
calculated easily from the
Cabrillo log by the scorers. It is a valuable
statistic, and should be published
in all contest results, especially
now that we are starting to see
Web versions of the results,
with fewer space limitations than
in printed magazines.
For the so2r folks, they can look
at the band change statistic and
compare themselves to other so2r
ops as a measure of effectiveness.
For the so1r folks, they can skip
through the so2r scores, which will
be very apparent from the band
changes, and look at their score
as compared with other so1r entries.
By the way, kudos to the ARRL for
their on-line results for the SS CW.
The database manipulation capability
is great! Now just add the band changes,
and we'll be in hog heaven.
Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
>From n5ia at zia-connection.com Thu Apr 25 10:19:39 2002
From: n5ia@zia-connection.com (Milt Jensen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
<000801c1ebcb$ea1026a0$13ed83d1@office> <008801c1ebfb$13dc2e00$0100a8c0@joe>
Message-ID: <002201c1ec75$0232d8a0$ca01060a@dvec.org>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly Taylor" <ve4xt@mts.net>
To: "Ford Peterson" <ford@cmgate.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
SNIP
> Now, creating an SO1R category that operators could voluntarily enter --
> assuming they are indeed using only one radio -- gives an out to people
who
> choose, for whatever reason, to compete at a different level while
> preserving the high standards of the main single op category. It's a
> win-win. People who feel cheated by SO2R can now compete amongst
like-minded
> individuals while those who want to measure themselves against the best
can
> continue to do so. I suspect the majority of ops would remain in the main
> category irrespective of how many radios they are running.
>
> Remember the category refers to single OPERATOR. Even if he has three
> radios, there's still just ONE operator.
This seems logical to me. This approach would be similar to what is now
done for the Field Day contest (err, Operating Event) where the QRP entries
are allowed to enter different categories (separate score listing) depending
on whether they have a transmitter power source from fossil fueled
mehcanical sources OR they go to the extra effort of planning and
implementation of wind/solar etc. sources of power and battery storage for
all of their TX/RX power requirements. There are no rewards other than the
accomplishment of the feat and the QST report of how your operation compared
to a similarly setup/powered station.
Mis dos centavos, de Milt, N5IA; leading a 4A solar powered QRP effort from
K7EAR at DM52 in AZ this year.
>From w9wi at w9wi.com Thu Apr 25 12:49:14 2002
From: w9wi@w9wi.com (Doug Smith W9WI)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider This
In-Reply-To: <200204251522.g3PFMj9F031838@contesting.com>; from
cq-contest-request@contesting.com on Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 11:22:45AM -0400
References: <200204251522.g3PFMj9F031838@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <20020425114914.D18628@w9wi.com>
> Although I may be wrong, I suspect, just like the
> difference in total score, the effect of SO2R on
> frequency occupation is less than some imagine.
*Something* has affected frequency occupation. It's most blatantly obvious
on 10 meters during CW and mixed-mode contests, when you have people CQing
as high as 28.250. Before SO2R, it was rare (at least in my neck of the
woods) to hear anybody above 28.100 except a Novice or two.
I suppose it's concievable increased activity in Eastern Europe and/or the
AM/SSB intruders are responsible for this. I doubt it - there aren't that
many of either.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
I fear K8MR is right. I've seen situations where I've gone 5-10 minutes
without a QSO in a domestic SSB contest because *everybody* was CQing on 75
- there were no "holes" for a new CQer - and after tuning the band over and
over, literally everybody CQing is a dupe. What's the answer?
- Keep listening to dupes hoping a hole opens up?
- Keep CQing on a dead 20, 40, or 160m band, knowing it could be 10-15
minutes before you get any answers?
- Find a weak station and start CQing, knowing you'll be able to hear
callers through him?
- Start CQing on 75m 3 hours before sunset to ensure you'll have a frequency
when 40 dies?
- Switch to 2m and start DXing on 146.52?
I contest for fun, and #5 is the only one that sounds like fun to me...
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com
>From n7df at zianet.com Sat Apr 27 11:52:57 2002
From: n7df@zianet.com (Larry N7DF)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eyestrain/neckstrain - avoiding of
Message-ID: <002501c1ee0c$2c7b9780$2a7df3d8@n7df>
A study of computer related job stress was done by some Federal Agency several
years back. I think it was NIH, but I'm not sure.
A major part of the eye strain problem was found to be related to spasms in the
neck muscles from holding the head in the wrong position. Generally the
monitor screen should be slightly below eye level. For each person the exact
preferred position can be determined by the following exercise.
While sitting in the chair and position you will normally use while using the
computer, look into an open space about ten feet away.
Hold your right hand, palm towards you at arms length and slowly move it up and
down. You will notice that there is one location where it seems to suddenly
appear the clearest.
Repeat with your left hand. You will probably notice that the clearest
position will be somewhat lower than for the right hand.
Now do this with both hands at once. This should clearly show the difference
in preferred location for each hand.
Set your computer monitor with the bottom of the screen at the location for the
lower hand.
This should reduce the neck strain significantly.
Another thing you can do is get a soft cervical collar from your local drug
store and wear it when you are at the computer for a long period of time.
73
Larry
N7DF
Remember:
E=IR is not just a good idea.
IT'S THE LAW!
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 10:38:38 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251638.g3PGccC30719@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: mqp@contesting.com
Mail logs to:
Mad River Radio Club
c/o Dave Pruett
2727 Harris Road
Ypsilanti, MI 48198
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/M HP
K8AA 302 560 102 89 11 222,324
W8SH 205 356 69 91 11 122,560 MSU Amateur Radio Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Mobile LP
K8MR 655 199 63 54 12 176,553 MRRC
WT9U/M 530 123 58 48 11 124,974 SMC
AA8U 420 74 36 48 12 41,496 MRRC
K5OT/M 205 77 51 32 40,421 SMC
K8IR 242 42 55 21 11 39,976 M&MARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op HP
N8KR 112 670 60 113 12 154,662 MRRC
N9RV 145 89 58 37 6 36,005 SMC
AD8J 103 77 47 36 9 23,489 NCC
K4BAI 110 38 56 23 20,382 SECC
K8DX 76 95 77 0 4 19,019 MRRC
N8II 52 59 27 31 5 9,454 PVRC
VE7FO 38 16 25 12 5 3,404
W4SAA/4(@W1CW) 45 0 30 0 3 2,700 FCG
KW8W 0 50 0 24 2 1,200 MRRC
K1KI 16 0 14 0 1 448 YCCC
VK2CZ 0 1 0 1 1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op LP
N8TC 285 271 81 81 12 136,242 EMARC
K8KHZ 74 311 39 90 12 59,211 Hazel Park ARC
K8SIA 185 120 56 51 7 52,430 MRRC
N8EA 299 0 84 0 50,232 MRRC
K7SV 166 100 64 42 11 45,792 PVRC
AD1C 157 49 72 31 10 37,389 YCCC
W8EDU(AF8A) 136 76 83 20 11 35,844 OkDX
W8RU 173 22 64 15 4 29,072 MRRC
NY1S 118 45 63 23 11 24,116
KN4Y 150 0 73 0 12 21,900 FCG
K8GL 104 0 35 0 3 11,330 MRRC
N2CU 63 37 30 19 3 7,987 Western NY DX Assn
NF4A 52 32 32 15 6,392 FCG
K9NW 64 0 41 0 4 5,248 Sultans of Shwing
WN6K 40 25 22 14 3,780 SCCC
NO5W 39 0 30 0 4 2,340
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op QRP
N9NE/8 201 67 0 0 12 54,873 Fond du Lac ARC
K3WW 82 19 47 14 6 11,163 FRC
Operators:
K8AA K8AA,KB8ECG,NU8Z
K8IR K8IR,KG8CX
K8MR K8MR,W8DRZ
W8SH K8MAS,KB8RWQ,KB8ZGL,KB8ZQZ,KC8JUZ,KC8PUN,KT8X,
W8ELS
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 10:40:02 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Ontario QSO Party - Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251640.g3PGe2U30730@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Ontario QSO Party - Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve3sre@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Ontario QSO Party
Ontario DX Assoc
PO Box 161 Station A
Willowdale, Ontario M2N 5S8
Canada
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
HFSSB LP
VE3BUC 3 195 104 24,675
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
VE3DC 260 705 294 24 448,644 Hamilton ARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
SOABMixed LP
VE3STT 102 231 152 87,248
VE3MQW 77 158 158 79,632
VA3WN 62 152 125 10 41,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
SOABMixed QRP
VE3KZ 134 295 192 20 175,872
VA3TTT 118 113 114 17 45,578 U-VE Contest Club
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3OZO,VE3RZ,
VE3VMO
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 10:59:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251659.g3PGxZl30743@localhost.localdomain>
2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: jidx-hfcw@ne.nal.go.jp
Mail logs to:
JIDX HFCW Contest
c/o Five-Nine Magazine
PO Box 59
Kamata, Tokyo 144
Japan
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
GM4YXI 520 127 14 82,931 North of Scotland Co
ES5QX 511 123 80,688
AE0Q(@K0HM) 452 115 64,400 Grand Mesa
N0AC(@N0NI) 427 110 30 54,780
F5IN 327 107 40,232
OH1F(OH1NOA) 326 100 12 36,100 CCF
N2ED 255 96 7 29,184 FRC
K3WW 224 81 6 21,060 FRC
N6ZZ 192 82 20,910 SCCC
N9RV 161 70 3 15,190 SMC
N6HC 143 72 4 13,320 SCCC
VE7FO 120 70 9 10,780
N4GG 43 34 4 1,972 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
HB9ARF 259 106 37,630
WN6K 238 88 21 30,008 SCCC
SV1CIB 109 66 9,174
VE3BUC 86 47 4 4,042
WA6BOB 35 33 2 1,155
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/10 LP
OM5AW 466 44 10 20,504
NT6K 127 41 4 10,414 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/15 HP
UT7QF 392 46 25 17,986 UCC
N1XS(@KB1H) 101 31 2 3,131 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
I2WIJ 67 32 3 2,144 Marconi Contest Club
>From loumecseri at bestnetpc.com Thu Apr 25 14:17:32 2002
From: loumecseri@bestnetpc.com (Lou Mecseri)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020425090623.00c10c30@gsvaresm01.er.usgs.gov>
Message-ID: <005e01c1ec7d$1705ae80$bb4ad0d1@n9a1i1>
Yes, FQP is this weekend, Saturday and Sunday.
PLEASE work us.
73s
Lou KE1F
----- Original Message -----
From: John Unger <w4au@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
: Tree -
:
: I think the Florida QSO Party is coming up sometime soon, but that usually
conflicts with Dayton, doesn't it? Also I may be confused after reading all
the messages on this reflector, but I believe that the new FQP rules do not
allow SO2R stations this year unless they append their calls with /SO2R.
:
: 73 - John, W4AU
:
:
: At 12:56 4/24/02 -0700, you wrote:
:
: >Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
: >
: >We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
: >
: >But - with the exception of the Poisson D'Avril contest on the
: >first, there just doesn't seem to be much going on.
: >
: >It really makes it hard for us two radio guys to keep our skills
: >in shape.
: >
: >At any rate - if anyone does know of any contests coming up this
: >weekend, that might not be well publicized, please let me know.
: >Maybe the Podunk Stew Perry Kid's QSO Party Sprint or something...
: >
: >73 Tree N6TR
: >tree@kkn.net
: >_______________________________________________
: >CQ-Contest mailing list
: >CQ-Contest@contesting.com
: >http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
:
: _______________________________________________
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:
:
>From otterstad at enter.vg Thu Apr 25 20:25:10 2002
From: otterstad@enter.vg (otterstad@enter.vg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Praha (OK)
In-Reply-To: <E170bi2-0009TM-00@f4.mail.ru>
References: <E170bi2-0009TM-00@f4.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <20020425172510.64318118AC@mail1.vg.eunet.no>
Quoting Andrey Karpov <rv1aw@inbox.ru>:
> I'm going to be in Praha with wife from 28th April
until 5th May for rest.
> We'll be staying in "CHODSKA" hotel. I'd love to
get together with other
> contesters in the area. If you're interested in
gathering, please drop me a
> mail.
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 11:31:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251731.g3PHVQZ30771@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
WX5S(@W6YX) 4553 1078 48 10,743,348 NCCC
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
NZ1U(@KB1H) 2207 896 34 5,264,896 YCCC
NT6K 2254 845 48 4,173,455 NCCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
N4WSM 260 209 146,091 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K6LRN 333 255 208,640 NCCC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
K8GL 570 358 12 541,654 MRRC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ1U KB1DFB,KB1H,N1XS
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
YW4M DL2GG,YV2IF,YV3AZC,YV4FZM,YV4GLD,YV4GME,YV4YC,
YV5AMH,YV5EED,YV5IQJ,YV5IVB,YV5LMW
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 11:33:34 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251733.g3PHXYt30780@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
YW4M 9455 1415 48 45,210,665
OT2A 9687 1523 37,950,114
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
VE7SCC 2120 0 48 4,406,904 Coquitlam Amateur Ra
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
P40V 6610 1251 48 25,617,978 NCCC
3V8BB 5868 1238 48 23,900,828 YU CC
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCF
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20h 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
VE7UQ 689 391 676,821
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCF
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
VP5V(W5AO) 4333 990 36 10,409,850 OkDX
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 542 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
ZD9IR 756 387 15 877,716
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
VE5SF 628 366 9 543,510
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
TM4K(F5BEG) 1040 547 1,346,714
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCF
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
Z33AA 928 501 1,122,240
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
VK4NEF 606 390 672,360
VE1ASJ 591 378 26 556,794
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
ZF2AH(W6VNR@EART 2689 871 30 5,654,532
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
UT7QF 2334 929 35 4,825,226 UCC
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCF
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
YT1RA 1227 588 36 1,535,268 YU CC
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14.4 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 LP
4N1A(YU1EA) 154 121 38,115
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCF
YT9X(YZ1KA) 1346 629 36 1,697,042 YU CC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
PJ2H(W0CG) 1098 500 21 3,226,000 Caribbean Contesting
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ1U KB1DFB,KB1H,N1XS
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
YW4M DL2GG,YV2IF,YV3AZC,YV4FZM,YV4GLD,YV4GME,YV4YC,
YV5AMH,YV5EED,YV5IQJ,YV5IVB,YV5LMW
>From zf2nt at candw.ky Thu Apr 25 18:57:11 2002
From: zf2nt@candw.ky (Bruce B. Sawyer)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Message-ID: <000d01c1ec82$a3cfe920$2d75883f@ibm1050257>
>Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be definitely
>out of it.
>Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
>
>73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited to
N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key (or
RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage that
it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us put
our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its knees!
CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 15:17:03 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
Message-ID: <20020425181830.YXOZ18777.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/25/02 9:23 AM, Mike Gilmer - N2MG at n2mg@contesting.com wrote:
>The more I learned (directly from them and not from
>speculation on the reflector), the more I realized
>these guys know what the hell they are doing. The
>techniques are logical and well constructed. And,
>might I add, apparently still very closely scrutinized
>by humans.
Hear, hear! I'll second this. That's been my impression. The more I
learned abotu what the contest judges were doing, the more impressed I
was that they'd covered all the angles.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Thu Apr 25 15:54:10 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (James Jarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] neckstrain/eyestrain/fatigue
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEMKDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
W2OX observed the growing number of bifocals in use
among contesters. Even continuous gradient lenses
require a certain head position for a particular
focal length. The resulting neck strain probably
also translates into strain along the spinal column.
Alex recommends a full set of 'computer glasses' for
contesting. Focal length is roughly arms length...or
average distance to your equipment from your average
chair position. This will give you maximum posture
flexibility, and minimize the strain.
I also recommend bowflex training with rowing,
as a means to strengthen the neck, back and abdominal
muscles. The result of even moderate, repeated exercise,
is a definite improvement in ability to sit for long
periods.
N2EA
>From thompson at mindspring.com Thu Apr 25 17:02:54 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
<E170SrW-0004AP-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
<002d01c1ec50$f817c250$20996c40@gq7mb01>
Message-ID: <007001c1ec94$30c64660$3c3445cf@default>
Barry is an MD with a speciality not a eye checker technician.
73 Dave K4JRB
> An opthalmologist! And here I thought you were a real doctor....
>
> Denny - GP for a quarter century...
>
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 21:17:13 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <008801c1ebfb$13dc2e00$0100a8c0@joe>
Message-ID: <000201c1ec96$307925e0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
>
> Comparing SO2R and assisted is not a fair analogy. Packet requires no
> skill,
> involves the assistance of others and makes mult hunting the
equivalent of
> shooting fish in a barrel.
Of course it takes skill, otherwise the assisted ops and all the multi
ops would have many more multipliers than unassisted. It takes lots of
skill to know when to go after spots and when to ignore them, to grab
them in between cq's without losing a run, practice using the second vfo
if your radio is so equipped to tune them in and grab them, etc.
unskilled ops at a m/m miss many spotted mults because they don't know
how to properly grab them. Even worse are ops that are distracted and
let the run rate go down by spending too much time in pileups at the
wrong time in the contest.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Thu Apr 25 17:45:35 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <200204252015.g3PKFf9F009831@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <009901c1ec9a$55051640$03010a0a@office1>
OK, so let me see if I've got this straight:
The packet cluster system was originally constructed for use by contesters
during contests. It was most heavily used during the Big Six contest
weekends (ARRL DX, CQ WPX, CQ WW CW & Phone) and most of the other majors
(ARRL 10M, ARRL 160, IARU, Ca QS0, Pa QSO, etc.)
To keep it active, DX'ers were encouraged to use it during other times with
the proviso that they vacate the cluster during contest weekends. To the
point that, for example, some poor schmuck who doesn't know this, who posts
a CW DX spot during a Major phone weekend will get yelled at or even locked
out for the weekend.
Now we have a proposal that to discourage packet cheats -- that is, those
who use the cluster in an unethical manners and/or in contrast to the posted
rules of the contests -- we flood the packet cluster with so many spots as
to force the system to break down and then be useful to no one. That or ban
use of the cluster altogether. All to force the "packet" guys to shut down
the cluster system that was originally set up, for better or worse, for use
by contesters during contests.
Am I missing something, or has this reached a new point of absurdity?
73, ron wn3vaw
"There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
probably."
--John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
From: "Bruce B. Sawyer" <zf2nt@candw.ky>
To: <va3uz@rac.ca>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
>Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be definitely
>out of it.
>Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
>
>73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited to
N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key (or
RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage that
it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us put
our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its knees!
CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
>From w7zr at citlink.net Thu Apr 25 16:10:07 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
References: <007101c1eb8d$86131c40$0100a8c0@joe>
Message-ID: <002f01c1eca5$fcf506c0$35d1fea9@N1>
Good, I accomplished what I started out to do and that is to get people to
think about this subject (SO2R).
While I do not want to get embroiled in attacks and a lot of specifics I
will try to make a couple of points of clarification from my point of view.
First, let me again state this was not a statistical analysis. Anyone could
see that in the initial post I referenced my score and one other station in
my class for one contest. Hardly suggested that it was a "study" or an
"analysis". The information posted was the "data" at hand and it really was
not the sum total of the point of view. I believe several of the
suggestions made regarding a good future comparison of SO2R vs SO1R bear
review by the contest folks. What could be wrong with that?
While I have posted in the past on this subject and sometimes jokingly have
suggested many categories so "everyone" gets an award, that is not my goal.
I feel that SO2R vs SO1R is like having a race
between a Corvette and a Corvair. (Now please don't start a thread on car
comparisons). Those that think there is no advantage to running SO2R then
why do they do it? Most who do it are really first class contest operators
anyway. They do it to increase their score. They do it to advance
techniques. Then why was the technique of using packet radio swiftly put in
to a separate class? Someone suggested running packet spots takes no skill.
I beg to differ. To take full advantage of packet spotting in the assisted
category does require a bit of skill, coordination, timing and
understanding. Just about the same skills and equipment necessary for SO2R.
So why is one mode a category by itself and not the other?
Those who have said it is not a money issue. I can agree with that. There
are many ways to set up the station for SO2R without spending megabucks.
That is not my point. I could put $100K into my Corvair and it is still a
Corvair. I just feel in the spirit of competition, of trying to get more
operators
involved contesting, we need to have limited but fair classifications so
that
those who "need" to compete for the "prize" can do so on as level a playing
field as possible. For the rest of us, we can just have fun.
Oh yes, it was pointed out that there are so many other factors as to why I
was "womped". Very true. Some of the suggested differences were: It was
unfair to compare East Coast stations to West Coast stations (Whoa, I don't
think we want to get that one started); the operator for the station I
posted is "That Good" ( I stated in the original post that I take nothing
away from the other operator, a great contestor); that the soil conductivity
was different in Virginia than Arizona (Great idea, I think we should have
to submit the results of lab tests at each station and classify them by soil
conductivity). However, I was not just
writing about my station and my class but all others who are running SO1R in
an SO2R class. It still is amazing to me how many private emails I got in
support of the idea but how few were posted. Maybe some are intimidated but
still support the proposal.
Meanwhile I just will continue to try and stir
some thought on the subject.
>From N5RP at pdq.net Thu Apr 25 18:18:48 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] neckstrain/eyestrain/fatigue
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEMKDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020425171709.00b7f7a8@pop.pdq.net>
At 14:54 4/25/2002 -0400, James Jarvis wrote:
>I also recommend bowflex training with rowing,
>as a means to strengthen the neck, back and abdominal
>muscles.
====================>
I do elbowflex curls and my stomach seems to get bigger.
What am I doing wrong?
Do I need heavier bottles?
A Proper UK pint of 20 oz?
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Thu Apr 25 17:09:42 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <000d01c1ec82$a3cfe920$2d75883f@ibm1050257>
Message-ID: <004201c1ecae$49e69f40$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Bruce, I don't think that the intent was to bring the cluster system to its
knees. Hopefully there would be adequate preparation for this to be
effective; heaven knows the internet itself will be quite able to stand
up to the pressure -- it would only be the servers of the spotting
networks themselves that would be heavily stressed.
This would completely remove the "cheating" element from the self-
spotting act, while at the same time it would increase the usefulness
of the spotting system. Imagine -- the spotting networks would
provide 100% coverage of all CQ's, spreading the impact of new
spots to every CQ on the band... No more big packet pileups.
Instantaneously updated bandmaps that are never out of date. No
need for anyone to provide any spots of stations thay've just worked.
Your own personal approach to filtering spots -- spots no longer
filtered by your competitor!
No, although there would be much more server traffic, the server
traffic isn't the drawback to this idea. It would place a 100%
requirement on all entrants (even those who are located in quite
remote places where there is no internet service available at
all) to connect to the internet and use computers to do all of their
logging. It would put the Heathkit HW-8 and pencil gang
completely out of business competitively, and force everyone to
modern equipment and modern operating practices.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce B. Sawyer" <zf2nt@candw.ky>
To: <va3uz@rac.ca>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:57
Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
> >Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be
definitely
> >out of it.
> >Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
> >
> >73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
>
> I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited to
> N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
> EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key
(or
> RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage
that
> it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
> convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us put
> our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its
knees!
>
> CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
>
>
>
>
>
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>From K4tmc at aol.com Thu Apr 25 20:17:51 2002
From: K4tmc@aol.com (K4tmc@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] May CQ arrives
Message-ID: <68.1f23fac2.29f9e89f@aol.com>
A stop by the PO box this morning resulted in the latest issue of CQ.
Front cover photo of N0GQ operating backpack-mobile in the Rockies with
details of his station inside. This month's issue is titled "Mobile Special!"
Contest related items:
Results - 2001 CQ WW RTTY DX Contest
Contesting - The Changing Face of Multi-Operator Contesting
Other interesting items:
Zero Bias (editorial) - Wood, Kids, and Radio
A Ham Radio "Voyage of Discovery" (a recreation of Lewis and Clark's trip)
County Hunting on the Road (and a County-Hunting primer)
The Fifth Annual CQ National Foxhunting Weekend
Reader Survey - ethics of ham radio and results of survey on refarming Novice
bands
World of Ideas - Mobiling 2002, More Ideas and New Goodies
Radio Classics - Mobile Operation in the '50s
What's New - Goodies Galore
Manufacturer Previews at Charlotte Hamfest (new items from Ten-Tec, Heil, and
Icom)
How It Works - Solar Power, The Easy Way
DX - Operating Procedures
VHF Plus - Mobile Hamming, A Driving Distraction?
Propagation - What is a CME? (coronal mass ejection)
Ads:
Heil Sound has full-page ad featuring the Pro-Set Plus and Traveler headsets,
and Classic, ICM, and Goldline microphones.
And more?
Don't forget the Florida QSO Party this weekend!!! (Jim, send the check to my
callbook address)
73 & High Rates,
Henry Pollock - K4TMC
Raleigh, NC
>From w2up at mindspring.com Fri Apr 26 02:00:59 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <007001c1ec94$30c64660$3c3445cf@default>
Message-ID: <3CC8A6CB.17059.30549E7@localhost>
Dave,
Thanks for your support. Actually, I think Denny was being a bit tongue
in cheek with his comment. I did reply privately to him that it didn't
surprise me he was a GP, as he couldn't even spell ophthalmologist
correctly :.)
Barry W2UP
On 25 Apr 2002 David L. Thompson wrote:
> Barry is an MD with a speciality not a eye checker technician.
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
> > An opthalmologist! And here I thought you were a real doctor....
> >
> > Denny - GP for a quarter century...
> >
>
>
>
--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Thu Apr 25 21:04:23 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
References: <007101c1eb8d$86131c40$0100a8c0@joe>
<002f01c1eca5$fcf506c0$35d1fea9@N1>
Message-ID: <066f01c1eccf$11d0b340$ede3c23f@KR6X.ORG>
Richard Zalewski <w7zr@citlink.net> wrote:
> Good, I accomplished what I started out to do and that is to get
people to
> think about this subject (SO2R).
Truly, I'd have to respond that you did not attain your goal. What
you did
was to reopen a stale topic and give a few of us a chance to get in
some
zingers. The vast majority of respondents posted opinions in
opposition to
the views you presented. Most were taken aback by your pronouncement
that the numeric comparison between your score and a leading scorer
could be attributed primarily to your own personal choice of issues
(SO2R).
Most of the respondents who seemed to agree with you also seemed to
be at a loss when presenting their views. One made comparisons
clearly
showing that he thought all SO2R competitors routinely called CQ on
two bands simultaneously. Others vastly overestimated the score
advantage that is attained through SO2R or suggested flawed
statistical
methods that they thought we should use to evaluate the value of SO2R
to the competitor. Clearly each of them believed they were presenting
valid arguments, even though their arguments wouldn't stand up under
the weight of examination.
Out of the discussion, one quite interesting suggestion surfaced:
Rather than considering a column showing SO1R or SO2R as a statistic,
the suggestion that the number of bandchanges in the log be printed
was
interesting, to me at least.
Those of us who wish to interpret this as an indicator of possible
SO2R
operation could do so -- and your own personal position would be
buoyed. Those of us who wish to interpret this as an indication of
"hustle" can do so. And those of us who object to the concept of
stigmatizing the use of two rigs with a label (TLA) and a column
(SO2R or SO1R) in the magazines that would provide fuel for
further attacks on everything that represents excellence in contest
operating wouldn't be offended. These kinds of numbers would be
interesting totop competitors when reading the contest results.
But in the final analysis, the majority of respondents simply said
that
this topic is stale, and they tire from hearing about it. I, for one,
disagree. I tend to believe that even a stale topic is worth the
effort
of fighting through dozens of boring, ill tempered, poorly presented
opinions as long as some comedian can push a good joke into the
thread somewhere along the way.
KR6X
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
To: "cq-contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
> Good, I accomplished what I started out to do and that is to get
people to
> think about this subject (SO2R).
>
> While I do not want to get embroiled in attacks and a lot of
specifics I
> will try to make a couple of points of clarification from my point
of view.
>
> First, let me again state this was not a statistical analysis.
Anyone could
> see that in the initial post I referenced my score and one other
station in
> my class for one contest. Hardly suggested that it was a "study" or
an
> "analysis". The information posted was the "data" at hand and it
really was
> not the sum total of the point of view. I believe several of the
> suggestions made regarding a good future comparison of SO2R vs SO1R
bear
> review by the contest folks. What could be wrong with that?
>
> While I have posted in the past on this subject and sometimes
jokingly have
> suggested many categories so "everyone" gets an award, that is not
my goal.
> I feel that SO2R vs SO1R is like having a race
> between a Corvette and a Corvair. (Now please don't start a thread
on car
> comparisons). Those that think there is no advantage to running
SO2R then
> why do they do it? Most who do it are really first class contest
operators
> anyway. They do it to increase their score. They do it to advance
> techniques. Then why was the technique of using packet radio
swiftly put in
> to a separate class? Someone suggested running packet spots takes
no skill.
> I beg to differ. To take full advantage of packet spotting in the
assisted
> category does require a bit of skill, coordination, timing and
> understanding. Just about the same skills and equipment necessary
for SO2R.
> So why is one mode a category by itself and not the other?
>
> Those who have said it is not a money issue. I can agree with that.
There
> are many ways to set up the station for SO2R without spending
megabucks.
> That is not my point. I could put $100K into my Corvair and it is
still a
> Corvair. I just feel in the spirit of competition, of trying to
get more
> operators
> involved contesting, we need to have limited but fair
classifications so
> that
> those who "need" to compete for the "prize" can do so on as level a
playing
> field as possible. For the rest of us, we can just have fun.
>
> Oh yes, it was pointed out that there are so many other factors as
to why I
> was "womped". Very true. Some of the suggested differences were: It
was
> unfair to compare East Coast stations to West Coast stations (Whoa,
I don't
> think we want to get that one started); the operator for the station
I
> posted is "That Good" ( I stated in the original post that I take
nothing
> away from the other operator, a great contestor); that the soil
conductivity
> was different in Virginia than Arizona (Great idea, I think we
should have
> to submit the results of lab tests at each station and classify them
by soil
> conductivity). However, I was not just
> writing about my station and my class but all others who are running
SO1R in
> an SO2R class. It still is amazing to me how many private emails I
got in
> support of the idea but how few were posted. Maybe some are
intimidated but
> still support the proposal.
>
> Meanwhile I just will continue to try and stir
> some thought on the subject.
>
>
>
>
>
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>From harri.mantila at nokia.com Fri Apr 26 13:50:47 2002
From: harri.mantila@nokia.com (harri.mantila@nokia.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Portugal de OH6YF
Message-ID: <A242AFEC69697D40B6094A94B2C192AA096192@esebe011.NOE.Nokia.com>
Hello!
I'll be visiting Lisbon from the 2nd to the 4th of May 2002.
It would be nice to meet some HAMs while I am there.
QRZ?
73,
Harry OH6YF
___________________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH?MYF-M?BYF
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
Tel: +358-50-5472478
>From n2mg at contesting.com Fri Apr 26 05:14:20 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
Message-ID:
<20020426041421.7091.h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Thu, 25 April 2002, "Richard Zalewski" wrote
> Those that think there is no advantage to running
> SO2R then why do they do it?
Who ever said this?
> Most who do it are really first class contest
> operators anyway. They do it to increase their
> score. They do it to advance techniques. Then why
> was the technique of using packet radio swiftly put
> in to a separate class?
Why does the analogy of packet use and SO2R keep coming
up? I see absolutely no connection (other than the
attempts by those who don't use them to want to
separate themselves from those that do).
The primary (potential) advantage of packet comes from
other operators' efforts. Use of packet, in the past,
forced single operators (who didn't want to cheat) to
claim Multi-Multi. Creating a category for assisted
operation allowed single operators to not have to claim
multi-operator. The key word is OPERATOR.
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Fri Apr 26 12:04:32 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Absurdity...
Message-ID: <1020326110405.LAA24842@gate.iterated.com>
On 4/25/02 4:45 PM, Ron Notarius WN3VAW at wn3vaw@fyi.net wrote:
>Am I missing something, or has this reached a new point of absurdity?
Hey, in contesting, we're pushing the limits of absurdity all the time!
--
(During the last NAQP, my wife remarked to my daughters that I was
involved in a "QSO Party" downstairs. My girls picked up on the word
"party" and asked if they could go. So, they came down to the shack for a
visit. A few minutes later, they came back upstairs. "Mama, how can daddy
be at a party? He's just sitting down there all by himself....")
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From n4vhk at summitschool.com Fri Apr 26 13:19:10 2002
From: n4vhk@summitschool.com (Henry Heidtmann)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NC QSO Party results are posted!
Message-ID: <3CC97DFE.7CC65A6@summitschool.com>
The 2002 NC QSO Party results have been posted at the Forsyth Amateur
Radio Club website.
http://www.w4nc.org
Thanks for everyone's participation- we hope to see you next year!
Plaques and certifcates will be out by the middle of May!
See you all at Dayton-
73,
Henry Heidtmann, N4VHK
NC QSO Party Chair
Winston-Salem, NC
>From trogo at telegraphy.com Fri Apr 26 10:25:18 2002
From: trogo@telegraphy.com (Tony Rogozinski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dayton Ticket
Message-ID: <025d01c1ed3e$f4a39100$012cfea9@ph.cox.net>
I ended up with an extra $17 admission ticket - will sell it for $14 plus an
SASE -
beat the crowd - don't stand in line.
Tony Rogozinski N7BG
6625 West Pershing Avenue
Glendale AZ 85304
"I collect telegraph keys and most anything
related to telegraphy especially old or unusual
bugs (semi automatic keys). Please email or
call toll free 888-848-1572 if you have anything
to sell or trade!"
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Fri Apr 26 13:43:13 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Tomorrow is the Florida QSO Party!
Message-ID: <036701c1ed41$751126c0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
K4TMC wrote:
Don't forget the Florida QSO Party this weekend!!! (Jim, send the check to my
callbook address)
....I will have a check cut for you, 'TMC.....honest!
CQ-Contest robot subscribers will be pleased to learn that after tomorrow I
will once again crawl into my hole for another 11 months...
I appreciate the fact that most of the readership of the various reflectors
understands I am merely promoting an amateur radio activity that our club
sponsors. I try to do it in a lighthearted fashion to make it a little more
palatable.
There is one group I appear to have accidentally offended this year with my
postings and I have reassured one of their senior members, and asked that he
inform them, that this was not my intent. If you feel I have stepped on your
toes please accept my apologies.
The Florida QSO Party has been blessed with great participation the past few
years since it was taken over by the Florida Contest Group, and we take pride
in routinely activating all 67 of Florida's counties my employing contesters to
mobile between the less activated ones.
Why do contesters do this - fun. How do contesters have fun - running
stations....your help in allowing us to have fun this weekend would be
appreciated...we will be waiting for you as we cross the county lines...the
"fresh meat" pileups are a blast - hope to see you in there!
FQP details/records/results/downloads adn more can be found at our world class
website (tnx WD4AHZ) it is at:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
[note that the qsl.net server is having problems today but should be up shortly]
ThE PARTY starts tomorrow at noon Eastern time...
Thanks again,
Jim, K4OJ
Florida Contest Group
Sponsors: The Florida QSO Party
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Apr 26 14:20:44 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <200204261604.g3QG4f9F026749@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <030101c1ed48$fa19af20$03010a0a@office1>
So now the solution to stopping cluster cheats is to force everyone to use
the cluster and to effectively discourage or ban those who don't from
participating in the contest? In other words, to stop the cheats we ban the
operators who can not possible have been cheating?
I was wrong before. THIS is the latest height in absurdity.
73, ron wn3vaw
"There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
probably."
--John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Bruce, I don't think that the intent was to bring the cluster system to its
knees. Hopefully there would be adequate preparation for this to be
effective; heaven knows the internet itself will be quite able to stand
up to the pressure -- it would only be the servers of the spotting
networks themselves that would be heavily stressed.
This would completely remove the "cheating" element from the self-
spotting act, while at the same time it would increase the usefulness
of the spotting system. Imagine -- the spotting networks would
provide 100% coverage of all CQ's, spreading the impact of new
spots to every CQ on the band... No more big packet pileups.
Instantaneously updated bandmaps that are never out of date. No
need for anyone to provide any spots of stations thay've just worked.
Your own personal approach to filtering spots -- spots no longer
filtered by your competitor!
No, although there would be much more server traffic, the server
traffic isn't the drawback to this idea. It would place a 100%
requirement on all entrants (even those who are located in quite
remote places where there is no internet service available at
all) to connect to the internet and use computers to do all of their
logging. It would put the Heathkit HW-8 and pencil gang
completely out of business competitively, and force everyone to
modern equipment and modern operating practices.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce B. Sawyer" <zf2nt@candw.ky>
To: <va3uz@rac.ca>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:57
Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
> >Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be
definitely
> >out of it.
> >Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
> >
> >73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
>
> I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited to
> N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
> EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key
(or
> RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage
that
> it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
> convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us put
> our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its
knees!
>
> CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
>
>
>
>
>
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>From nat at ajheatwole.com Fri Apr 26 17:14:43 2002
From: nat@ajheatwole.com (Nat Heatwole)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The Purpose of Contest Categories
References: <007101c1eb8d$86131c40$0100a8c0@joe>
<002f01c1eca5$fcf506c0$35d1fea9@N1> <066f01c1eccf$11d0b340$ede3c23f@KR6X.ORG>
Message-ID: <006901c1ed5f$06f9e140$6ec214ac@guilford.edu>
I've been on this reflector a while now and I've noticed that the SO2R
debate tends to be cyclical. It starts when someone complains about SO2R
or SO2R operators, the new category debate starts up, the mud is slung,
and it ends when people get tired of the thread. I usually don't
participate in the SO2R debate but I think it's about time I said
something as I'm getting sick of the ignorance surrounding it.
I've come to realize after watching the hundreds of posts about SO2R on
the reflector over the years that a lot of people don't understand why
there are different categories in contests. There is a methodology to
it, believe it or not. Contest categories are intended for one or both
of the following reasons:
1. To distinguish between a different numbers of operators and/or
simultaneous transmissions (ie. M/S, M/2, M/M).
2. To correct for elements that will produce an INHERENT unfairness or
advantage.
Look around, all contests have this scheme to their categories. However,
many don't realize what an "inherent unfairness" is. Here's the
definition:
-INHERENT UNFAIRNESS (def): any advantage in a contest that is mutually
exclusive of operator skill and station location where the *mere
addition* of a particular element or aspect increases an operator's
score.
In other words, adding a component that *in and of itself* increases
your score is an inherent advantage. Components of this nature include
amplifiers, as turning on an amp gives one an inherent advantage even if
one's operator skill was to remain constant because amps give the
ability to break pileups more easily, it "opens" the band earlier, and
CQing becomes much easier. All of these will increase one's score
independently of one's operating skill and QTH.
If you have operator A and he turns on 1500w as opposed to previously
running 100w and his operator skills remains the same under both
scenarios his score will be inherently higher with 1500w because of the
above reasons. Therefore 1500w is an inherent advantage over 100w and
that is why power categories (QRP, LP, HP) exist.
Some have brought up the packet issue, the fact that there is a separate
category for this. This is necessary because of #1. Because more than
one operator is (indirectly) contributing to a station's score an
additional category is appropriate and necessary.
The SO2R category controversy is fueled by that fact that 1) many people
have never really operated SO2R and 2) many people don't understand how
SO2R works. It *DOES NOT* provide an inherent advantage. Actually, when
everyone tries SO2R there score go DOWN initially, some for long periods
of time. In other words, it's the antithesis of an inherent advantage;
it's an inherent disadvantage. And because only one operator and one
transmitted signal at any time is present there is no justification for
a new category. In order to profit from SO2R operating one must work at
it a LOT over many contests and over many years. In other words, they
must develop operating skill surrounding it; just adding another radio
has no inherent advantage.
If a new category were to be created for SO2R it would:
1. Discourage creativity and innovation in contesting.
2. Discourage operators from investing time, money, and effort in their
stations.
3. Discourage competition.
4. Discourage operators from advancing their operating skill.
Any one of those four (let alone ALL four at once) will kill contesting.
Yes SO2R is an advantage, just like operating skill is an advantage, but
it is an *acquired* advantage not an inherent advantage and therefore
not unfair to possess. Also, there's the question of how to define SO2R
as well as the onslaught of new categories if we were to separate SO2R
from SO1R. Take CQ WW for example. If we made SO2R a new category in CQ
WW there would be 42 new categories:
SO2R AB QRP
SO2R AB QRP (A)
SO2R AB LP
SO2R AB LP (A)
SO2R AB HP
SO2R AB HP (A)
SO2R 160m QRP
SO2R 160m QRP (A)
SO2R 160m LP
SO2R 160m LP (A)
SO2R 160m HP
SO2R 160m HP (A)
SO2R 80m QRP
SO2R 80m QRP (A)
SO2R 80m LP
SO2R 80m LP (A)
SO2R 80m HP
SO2R 80m HP (A)
SO2R 40m QRP
SO2R 40m QRP (A)
SO2R 40m LP
SO2R 40m LP (A)
SO2R 40m HP
SO2R 40m HP (A)
SO2R 20m QRP
SO2R 20m QRP (A)
SO2R 20m LP
SO2R 20m LP (A)
SO2R 20m HP
SO2R 20m HP (A)
SO2R 15m QRP
SO2R 15m QRP (A)
SO2R 15m LP
SO2R 15m LP (A)
SO2R 15m HP
SO2R 15m HP (A)
SO2R 10m QRP
SO2R 10m QRP (A)
SO2R 10m LP
SO2R 10m LP (A)
SO2R 10m HP
SO2R 10m HP (A)
You think CQ is slow at returning certificates and plaques now, just
imagine. And CQ WPX (for example) would be even worse as it includes
several categories not found in CQ WW, notably rookie (R), band
restricted (BR), and tribander-single element (TS). I don't have the
energy to type all of those new SO2R categories out and neither does CQ
(one reason why they haven't adopted a SO2R category).
And another thing. Any activity discouraging SO2R means that less people
will operate SO2R. And when less people operate SO2R that means
*EVERYONE'S* score goes down because less total QSO's will be made in
any given contest. That's just what we need in contesting, less Q's.
That's the problem that has nearly killed SS several times.
People who want a new class for SO2R don't understand SO2R and/or
they're confusing it's acquired advantage with an inherent advantage.
When you discourage innovation and skill, contesting ends. If you don't
like SO2R don't operate it. If you do not wish to advance your operating
skill through that avenue (like K3ZO), if instead you wish to acquire it
other ways that's great. But don't complain about others who chose to
acquire it that way and don't segregate these individuals into their own
category just because you don't like their (acquired) skill advantage.
KQ2M beats the *&%$ out of me in every contest due (in part) to his
excellent, highly refined operating skill of which SO2R is one and only
one component. Do I claim he has an advantage, ABSOLUTLY! But it's not
an unfair one, it took him years to acquire and he still claims to be in
the process of perfecting it. I'm happy for Bob. I don't wish him to be
in another class just because he undertakes ventures that increase his
operating skill. That's what radiosport is about and Bob is what all
contesters should strive to be.
If you like SO2R operate it. If you don't like SO2R don't operate it.
But if you chose not to operate it, don't claim it should have it's own
category because that's NOT WHY categories exist. Only when this is
understood will the cyclical SO2R debate finally end.
73, Nat, WZ3AR
<nat@ajheatwole.com>
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Fri Apr 26 16:52:09 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <200204261604.g3QG4f9F026749@contesting.com>
<030101c1ed48$fa19af20$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <019f01c1ed75$0042d120$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Right, an unfortunate side effect preventing the use of
what is effectively a great idea but for the side effect.
Sure would have cut down on those busted spots...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 10:20
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
> So now the solution to stopping cluster cheats is to force everyone to use
> the cluster and to effectively discourage or ban those who don't from
> participating in the contest? In other words, to stop the cheats we ban
the
> operators who can not possible have been cheating?
>
> I was wrong before. THIS is the latest height in absurdity.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
> probably."
> --John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
>
> Bruce, I don't think that the intent was to bring the cluster system to
its
> knees. Hopefully there would be adequate preparation for this to be
> effective; heaven knows the internet itself will be quite able to stand
> up to the pressure -- it would only be the servers of the spotting
> networks themselves that would be heavily stressed.
>
> This would completely remove the "cheating" element from the self-
> spotting act, while at the same time it would increase the usefulness
> of the spotting system. Imagine -- the spotting networks would
> provide 100% coverage of all CQ's, spreading the impact of new
> spots to every CQ on the band... No more big packet pileups.
> Instantaneously updated bandmaps that are never out of date. No
> need for anyone to provide any spots of stations thay've just worked.
> Your own personal approach to filtering spots -- spots no longer
> filtered by your competitor!
>
> No, although there would be much more server traffic, the server
> traffic isn't the drawback to this idea. It would place a 100%
> requirement on all entrants (even those who are located in quite
> remote places where there is no internet service available at
> all) to connect to the internet and use computers to do all of their
> logging. It would put the Heathkit HW-8 and pencil gang
> completely out of business competitively, and force everyone to
> modern equipment and modern operating practices.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce B. Sawyer" <zf2nt@candw.ky>
> To: <va3uz@rac.ca>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:57
> Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
>
>
> > >Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be
> definitely
> > >out of it.
> > >Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
> > >
> > >73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
> >
> > I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited
to
> > N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
> > EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key
> (or
> > RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage
> that
> > it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
> > convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us
put
> > our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its
> knees!
> >
> > CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
>
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>From k1ea at contesting.com Fri Apr 26 19:57:32 2002
From: k1ea@contesting.com (K1EA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Free CT for New England Qso Party
Message-ID: <000201c1ed75$bfc638c0$c801010a@home.k1ea.com>
I have placed a free download of CT on www.k1ea.com for use in the New
England QSO Party.
This is the full CT, except it says registered to New England QSO Party.
I hope this helps participation.
73,
Ken K1EA
>From trogo at telegraphy.com Fri Apr 26 17:09:49 2002
From: trogo@telegraphy.com (Tony Rogozinski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dayton Ticket
Message-ID: <03c701c1ed77$76c68f60$012cfea9@ph.cox.net>
The ticket is sold.
"I collect telegraph keys and most anything
related to telegraphy especially old or unusual
bugs (semi automatic keys). Please email or
call toll free 888-848-1572 if you have anything
to sell or trade!"
>From w3cf at comcast.net Fri Apr 26 21:14:59 2002
From: w3cf@comcast.net (Doug Priest)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition in a box
Message-ID: <NFBBKEEFALNKFAKNGPCKGEMCCDAA.w3cf@comcast.net>
http://www.casesbypelican.com/
Just put IC-751a, MFJ Voice Keyer, Bencher Paddles, and Laptop computer in
the Pelican 1650 case.
I'm impressed. 69 pounds :-)
Water tight, air tight, corrosion proof protection for your DXpedition.
Unconditional lifetime guarantee......
It locks and rolls, too.....
73
Doug W3CF /V26DX
Doug Priest W3CF
Hatfield, Pa.
19440-3958
Doug@W3CF.com
www.w3cf.com
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Apr 26 21:31:31 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest related good deal...
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020426202716.05110ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
For those who are looking for good-quality shielded cable to connect band
decoders to radios and/or PCs, Radio Shack is currently running a 97 cent
sale on 30 feet (!) of double-shielded 4-conductor data/audio cable, stock
number 278-777. The local manager said it is a discontinued item. Package
says it is 4 26-gauge conductors, stranded, color coded, 100 % foil shield
with 75% braid overlay.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From al_lorona at agilent.com Fri Apr 26 19:34:32 2002
From: al_lorona@agilent.com (al_lorona@agilent.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
Message-ID: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Hi, Everybody,
I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a different check
than my correct check. On purpose. I think I used something like '55' in the
CW SS, and '00' in the phone SS. Why did I do this? I guess I thought it
would be cool to try out another number. Or to alleviate boredom. I don't
know.
I had talked it over with a friend before the contest and we came to the
conclusion that it would not be against the spirit of the rules to do so.
After all, the SS check is only a simulation of a real check anyway, which
of course is the word count of a message. And it's not the same as changing
your precedence or your section, which would have very serious consequences
for you and for others.
I suspect that some folks couldn't care less what check I sent, while others
may take exception to the practice. I want to hear all sides, because I'm
thinking of doing it again.
Regards,
Al W6LX
>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 27 03:09:23 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
References:
<20020426041421.7091.h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <3CC9FA43.2DE2DA54@harborside.com>
Mike Gilmer - N2MG wrote:
> Why does the analogy of packet use and SO2R keep coming
> up? I see absolutely no connection (other than the
> attempts by those who don't use them to want to
> separate themselves from those that do).
And the problems with this is????
Tom W7WHY
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Sat Apr 27 04:11:56 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?iso-8859-1?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
References: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Message-ID: <012801c1ed90$e9487d00$b810be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
From: <al_lorona@agilent.com>
>
> I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a different check
> than my correct check. On purpose. I think I used something like '55' in the
> CW SS, and '00' in the phone SS. Why did I do this? I guess I thought it
> would be cool to try out another number. Or to alleviate boredom. I don't
> know.
>
I looked in my checkbook, and every check has a different number.
Copy what I sent *YOU*, not what I send someone else last year.
73, de Hans, K0HB
>From k5zd at charter.net Sat Apr 27 04:12:48 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
In-Reply-To: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEGNDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Send anything you want! Just make sure you send the same thing to everyone
you work and that you get it right in your log submission to ARRL (you would
be surprised how often this doesn't happen).
The only people who will complain are those using databases from previous
years. They deserve to lose a QSO if they don't copy what you send...
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of
> al_lorona@agilent.com
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 00:35 AM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
>
>
>
> Hi, Everybody,
>
> I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a
> different check
> than my correct check. On purpose. I think I used something like
> '55' in the
> CW SS, and '00' in the phone SS. Why did I do this? I guess I thought it
> would be cool to try out another number. Or to alleviate boredom. I don't
> know.
>
> I had talked it over with a friend before the contest and we came to the
> conclusion that it would not be against the spirit of the rules to do so.
> After all, the SS check is only a simulation of a real check anyway, which
> of course is the word count of a message. And it's not the same
> as changing
> your precedence or your section, which would have very serious
> consequences
> for you and for others.
>
> I suspect that some folks couldn't care less what check I sent,
> while others
> may take exception to the practice. I want to hear all sides, because I'm
> thinking of doing it again.
>
> Regards,
>
> Al W6LX
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Sat Apr 27 01:08:12 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The Florida QSO Party Starts at Noon Eastern on Saturday!
Message-ID: <020c01c1eda1$260a2080$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
It is just rolling over to Saturday here in Tampa....so for one last time
before the fun begins in 12 hours at 1600Z just thought I would remind everyone
that:
The Florida QSO Party is 0 Days Away - see everyone in a few hours!
Details can be found at: http://www.qsl.net/fqp
Start time Saturday - Noon Eastern
Start time Sunday - 8:00 AM Eastern
Both days are ten hour operaitng windows...mobiles will be criss crossing the
state hitting all the counties - some of them many times - please join us for a
Party - Florida Style!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
Floirda Contest Group
(0ne of the ops in K4FCG Mobile)
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>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Sat Apr 27 00:11:53 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
In-Reply-To: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJEEMFECAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> I suspect that some folks couldn't care less what check I sent,
> while others
> may take exception to the practice. I want to hear all sides, because I'm
> thinking of doing it again.
>
Hey, Al, I'll copy as best I can whatever anyone sends me. It doesn't matter
what you sent last year or the year before. What matters is what you send
me now, that you report it as such, and that I copy it accurately in the
log.
It's between you and the contest sponsor to deal with the appropriateness of
changing your check.
73,
dale, kg5u
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sat Apr 27 12:09:28 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
In-Reply-To: <3CC9FA43.2DE2DA54@harborside.com>
Message-ID: <000201c1eddc$00004410$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
> > Why does the analogy of packet use and SO2R keep coming
> > up? I see absolutely no connection (other than the
> > attempts by those who don't use them to want to
> > separate themselves from those that do).
>
>
> And the problems with this is????
> Tom W7WHY
no problem, which is the point of the question. So2r is ONE OPERATOR
doing all he can to win. Using packet takes assistance from other
operators which used to put you in a multi op class. The s/o 'assisted'
class was actually NOT a split of s/o, it was a split of the m/s class
into those who actually had only one operator at the radios and those
who had more than one operator at the radios.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Sat Apr 27 09:02:35 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Bogus check--check/// one guy does it with
wires!...another with wheels
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHAEOBDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
W6LX wrote....
>I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a different check
>than my correct check. On purpose. Al, W6LX
Sure, Al....it's not that it was so long ago you can't REMEMBER what it is, eh?
(Which is, truth to tell, my situation. Novice ticket arrived around a
year-end.)
-0-
To the guy who pointed out KQ2M's so2r prowess....I might point out that
Bob, for the most part, has done this with WIRES. Now, his
place looks like a damned spider web, with those wire beams all over
the place....but he has instant directional switching as a result. As his
tower system comes on line, look for the scores to go down :)
-0-
And then there's Dougie, W3CF, who's busy practicing wheelies with his
portable station in a box.
-0-
And we STILL haven't solved the ultimate packet question!!!
-0-
Natives are restless...snow is off the mountains in VT...must be time for
Dayton.
Jim/N2EA
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sat Apr 27 14:16:24 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ne qso party rules?
Message-ID: <000801c1eded$bbc422f0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
A problem to expect with the new CT 9.72 for the NE QSO Party for those
of you with computer controlled radios who haven't seen these bugs in
the recent versions of CT(or haven't cared because most contests are
single mode only):
Changing modes on the ts-940 or ft-1000 (the mp seems to be ok) must be
done on the computer and THEN ALSO on the radio to get them to match up.
I don't know if this applies to other radios, but it is something to
watch for.
Also noted, my f10-check mult window seems to be empty.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From k3ft at erols.com Sat Apr 27 10:15:29 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
References: <000201c1eddc$00004410$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <3CCAB281.4167@erols.com>
Have to laugh at what some guy might think as he copies my check of '03' (for
the 2002
SS) which, when, after about 15 hours my Q number is up there as being quite
good for a
99 year old contester! HEH (Guess it's true! RF and CW DO tend to preserve one
rather
well!) IT's even MORR humorous when the folks who know me wonder how I aged so
quickly.
(I tell 'em it is due to being on 20M SSB for 20 hours during the DX contests!)
I'm with the other people. As long as it's consistent, it's what you report,
and I copy
what you sent.. send what you like!
73
Chuck K3FT
>From k1ir at designet.com Sat Apr 27 10:24:04 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
Message-ID: <nw4xvyay87pbki3.270420020924@designet-jsi>
>I'm thinking of doing it again.<
Al,
How could you? This interpretation of the SS rules is highly irregular.
Clearly, you have created an unfair advantage for yourself in using a Bogus
Check. Don't underestimate the significance of what you're doing here. Changing
your check from your actual year first licensed to 55 seems to have given you a
huge advantage in dits. Dats not fair. And changing your check to 00 in phone
seems to have given you a similar advantage in zeros. Now, some will argue that
the advantage is not that big; some will say its huge. Some will say they just
don't have the resources to implement such an advantage for themselves.
This flagrant rules violation almost rises to the level of the Bogus Signal
Report, now a widespread practice amongst hardcore contesters. How does a
dedicated DXer challenge these uncaring contest ops who continually send a 59
when the spirit of the rules dictate that correct report is "22 and please
confirm your call"? To allow these upstanding DXers to compete on a level
playing field, the category SOBS [Single-Op Bogus Signal Report] is long
overdue.
At a minimum, you must self-declare yourself as SOBC, and the CAC should
immediately begin deliberations on how to structure this serious new category
of SS competition.
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Sat Apr 27 11:07:10 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
In-Reply-To: <3CCAB281.4167@erols.com>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDGEABEGAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
I guess I'm going against the Majority on this one. Could I have
been to be the only one to have read the rules in modern memory?
The rules specify what to send for *check* in the same way it
does for *section*.
>From kwolff at charter.net Sat Apr 27 13:12:55 2002
From: kwolff@charter.net (Ken Wolff)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [YCCC] ne qso party rules?
In-Reply-To: <000e01c1edf5$edc2edb0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <000001c1ee06$64390f00$c801010a@home.k1ea.com>
Fixed it. Find at www.k1ea.com
-----Original Message-----
From: David Robbins [mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 10:15 AM
To: k1ea@contesting.com; reflector ct-user
Subject: FW: [YCCC] ne qso party rules?
Alt-z closes the check call window then crashes the machine.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Frenaye [mailto:frenaye@pcnet.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 13:39
> To: David Robbins
> Subject: Re: [YCCC] ne qso party rules?
>
> At 01:16 PM 4/27/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>
> >Also noted, my f10-check mult window seems to be empty.
>
> Alt-Z brings it up I think... -- Tom
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> ------------------------------------------
> e-mail: frenaye@pcnet.com YCCC --> http://www.yccc.org/
> Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone:
860-668-5444
>From k3ft at erols.com Sat Apr 27 13:38:39 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SoBS/SoBC
Message-ID: <3CCAE21F.5BA7@erols.com>
So BC! So BS! Great idea! How about just 'BC' and 'BS' ;-)
Personally, I don't care WHAT check or section you send as long as you are
consistent
and that's what you submit under IF you choose to send in a log. If you pick a
'rare'
section, you oughta be ready to answer ALL the QSL requests tho! (AND DON'T
expect
SASE's! <grin>)
C'mon guys.. let's lighten up. I think we're suffering 'SO2R Thread burnout'
here.
Remember the line from the 50's and 60's.. 'It's ONLY a movie.. It's only a
movie.. It's
only a movie!...'
73
Chuck K3FT
>From chas.shaw at verizon.net Sat Apr 27 17:43:43 2002
From: chas.shaw@verizon.net (Charles W. Shaw)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
In-Reply-To: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDGEABEGAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
References: <3CCAB281.4167@erols.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020427163820.009d1330@mail.verizon.net>
Jeff Maass wrote:
>I guess I'm going against the Majority on this one.
I will join Jeff. In addition to what he pointed
out about the RULES, it is handy and interesting
to know the tenure of the station you are working!
And, I really was first licensed in '55!
Charles, N5UL
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Apr 27 15:04:46 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
References: <200204271603.g3RG3J9F001583@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <04f201c1ee16$087103c0$03010a0a@office1>
My college club station (K3CR up at Penn State) was first on the air in
1909, and got one of the first Department of Commerce licenses (8XE) in
1912. Now just try and convince the kids up there that they should use a
check of '12,' just like the rules state (year the station was first
licensed, right?)
A few years ago, I was told (when I got a check of "84" if I recall
correctly) that a would-be lawyer in the club claimed that under strict
interpretation of the rules, each operator was obligated to use as the check
the year HE (or she) was first licensed.
Another time, someone mistakenly used the year the club got the call (72) as
the check instead of year first licensed -- mistake was caught after about
70-80 QSO's and then they switched. This was back in the pre-computer days,
incidently... anyway this was reported with the explanation when the log was
sent in so that no one else would get penalized for our mistake.
In any event, I know the question did come up once about the appropriate
check to use -- the Penn State ARC itself only dates to the early 1960's
even though the Penn State station goes way back, which is a whole 'nother
story -- and we were told by the ARRL contest folks at the time that in the
case of ambiguity, any valid check would be accepted so long as the same
check was consistently used throughout the contest.
And consider this folks... what do we do in 10 years time when the 2 digit
check "laps"? Is there going to be a distinction made between "1912" and
"2012" checks, or are they both going to simply be "12"? (Granted, this
will most likely only affect club stations, but you never know...
I have many fond memories of Sweepstakes operating from K3CR. You can blame
my love of contesting on W3AS, WA3FET, K3UA, K3YD, AA3B, WA3WAW, the former
WA3WUD (can never
remember Howie's "new" 2x1 call) and a host of others. And then there was
the time
the Young Gun Contester (who was a student at the time but not a member of
the club) who asked if he could operate the club station SO in SS because
he'd
been disqualified the year before under his own ticket... but if I mention
his call, he'll
definitely snub me at Dayton this year. Hmmmm... tempting...
73, ron wn3vaw
'Never attribute to malice that which is adequately
explained by stupidity.' --Hanlon's Razor
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck K3FT <k3ft@erols.com>
To: CQ-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
Have to laugh at what some guy might think as he copies my check of '03'
(for the 2002
SS) which, when, after about 15 hours my Q number is up there as being quite
good for a
99 year old contester! HEH (Guess it's true! RF and CW DO tend to preserve
one rather
well!) IT's even MORR humorous when the folks who know me wonder how I aged
so quickly.
(I tell 'em it is due to being on 20M SSB for 20 hours during the DX
contests!)
I'm with the other people. As long as it's consistent, it's what you report,
and I copy
what you sent.. send what you like!
73
Chuck K3FT
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>From ve3iay at rac.ca Sat Apr 27 19:02:46 2002
From: ve3iay@rac.ca (Richard Ferch)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
Message-ID: <000701c1ee37$4525c640$6400a8c0@workstation1>
On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:07:10 -0400, Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com sent:
> If you can justify changing the *check* in your exchange, I can
> justify changing the **Section** in my exchange (so long as I'm
> consistent)! In fact, as it doesn't say "*Your* ARRL/RAC Section"
> it is **less** explicit than the specification for Check, which it
> says must be "...year *you* were first licensed"!
>
> Perhaps I'll send "WY' or "ND" as my *section* this year, as they
> *are* ARRL Sections. From Ohio, that should provide an advantage
> for me!
>
Surely you jest, Jeff!
Using a faked check is a lot like fibbing about your age in the All Asian
contest, or the commonplace practice of using a nickname in the NAQP.
Remember all the "Chad"s in January 2001? Did anyone seriously suggest that
this was a violation of the rules? Heck, there's even an award for "best
name" in the RTTY NAQP! I think the majority view you referred to is that
the check in SS is similar to these.
Using a faked section would be completely different. In SS, the section is a
critical element of contest scoring, both for multipliers and for the Clean
Sweep award, as well as for your competitive position vs. the rest of the
section. Lying about your section would attack the integrity of the contest
results and awards. I'm proud of my Clean Sweep mug, but if I seriously
thought there was a chance that some of the QSOs were with falsified
sections, I would throw it out - it would have no value to me. Not that it
is any of my business (I'm not an ARRL member), but my personal opinion is
that if a station located in Ohio were to deliberately send "WY" or "ND" as
his section, that should be grounds for disqualification. And no, I don't
think for a second that you or anyone else on this reflector would actually
do that - it was obviously a "straw man" argument!
The callsign in the exchange is another such critical element; it must be
consistent and unchanged during the contest, any particular call sign must
only be used by one station during the contest, and of course it must be a
callsign the operator is legally entitled to use.
The precedence is different. I don't care during the contest what the other
station's precedence is, as long as they record it correctly in their log
(for log checking - obviously, to deliberately record something different in
the log than what was sent over the air would be highly unethical, but I
hope we are not talking about that kind of tactic!). However, the log
checkers may wish to insist that it be consistent with the entry
classification, and that is their prerogative. Nevertheless, let's suppose
someone, perhaps for childish one-upmanship reasons, sends "Q" during the
contest, logs the exchange as such, but uses high power and enters their log
in the high power category (again, I am not talking about lying about the
power, only about using an incorrect precedence in the exchange). If
everyone could somehow be completely sure that this would not result in
errors during the log checking process or a misclassification of the entry,
would it really matter?
The serial number is similar. It doesn't matter to me if someone increases
their serial number by ten instead of by one after every QSO, as long as
what they put in their log agrees with what they sent me. Indeed, the longer
serial numbers they will have to send will probably increase the number of
fills they are asked for, so it's actually in my competitive interest if
someone else inflates their serial numbers. The log checkers may choose to
insist otherwise, of course, and have their own valid reasons for doing so.
Furthermore, they can easily enforce the rule about consecutive serial
numbers by checking the logs, just as they can enforce the precedence rule
by cross-checking the precedence with the entry class.
However, using a bogus check affects no-one at all. As long as I copy
correctly what the other guy sends, and as long as he records it correctly
in his log, who cares? Again, the log checkers may insist that it not change
during the contest for log-checking reasons. I suppose that, according to a
literal-minded reading of the rules, they could even insist that it be
correct, but why would they? Unlike insisting that the check be consistent,
which is verifiable, insisting on correctness would be unenforceable and,
more importantly, immaterial, and therefore a waste of time. Logically, a
rule which is unenforceable and immaterial may not be a very good one, but
there would be no real point to changing this particular rule even if
everyone agreed that it needn't be taken literally.
Despite the above argument, I think that Al's idea of changing his check is
not a particularly good one as far as improving his score is concerned. I
believe the net effect on his score could even be negative, as follows:
Given the widespread use of master callsign databases, there is an advantage
to using a consistent check every year, or a consistent name in every NAQP.
It's similar to the advantage everyone gets by sending 599 instead of a true
signal report in CQ WW. Namely, it may slightly reduce the number of fills,
which may in turn have a positive effect on the score. On the other hand, I
suppose using a different name or check every year or a different signal
report every QSO might improve your competitive situation ever so slightly
by increasing the likelihood of busted QSOs in your competitors' logs.
Speaking for myself, I would judge the former effect to be of more actual
benefit than the latter.
Now on the other hand, if Al wanted to shorten his Sweepstakes exchange by
moving from LAX to NE, I'm sure he would get lots of encouragement from the
rest of us! ;)
73,
Rich VE3IAY
>From swca at swbell.net Sun Apr 28 08:15:03 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
References: <000701c1ee37$4525c640$6400a8c0@workstation1>
Message-ID: <011001c1eeae$55f67560$934afea9@TL01>
I think if Al wants to send "55" as his check but it is not the year he was
first licensed, he must first find an op who was licensed in 55 like Charles
there. Charlie goes to Al's house, drinks the beer and eats the sandwiches,
and Al enter Multi-Single.
Mark, N5OT
>From aj9c at comteck.com Sun Apr 28 14:06:23 2002
From: aj9c@comteck.com (Mike Kasrich)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SS checks
Message-ID: <3CCBF3CF.7030605@comteck.com>
Ive always understood you were to use the last two numbers from the year
you were first licensed. If you don't my apple cart won't be tipped one
way or the other but the guys with the super duper master.dat files
might get confused for a second or so.
mike/aj9c
NR A AJ9C 74 IN
>From k4ww at arrl.net Sun Apr 28 13:37:16 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Rules
Message-ID: <001901c1eed2$f594d840$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
>From kq2m at mags.net Sun Apr 28 14:16:14 2002
From: kq2m@mags.net (Robert Shohet)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Router/Firewall/Network/Internet spot problems?
Message-ID: <000701c1eed8$682227a0$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
Hi Guys,
I currently am using a Dell Win98 Ver 2 computer with a Motorola SB4100
Cable Modem and Charter Pipeline - Cable Modem Internet access. I am also
using Zonealarm Pro Ver 2.6 as my firewall.
My plan was to install a D-Link DI-704P router and then connect up my other
Win98 Ver 2 computer in the shack (a Dell optiplex running on Win 98 Ver 2).
I decided to "test" the router by first connecting it to the upstairs
computer.
I shut down Zonealarm Pro and then hooked up the router and went through the
installation process.
After it was installed, I noticed that I couldn't browse. So I went to the
Appendix and ran the "Ping" test on the gateway address - it passed the
test. But I still couldn't browse or receive e-mail.
I called Charter - my cable/internet provider and was told that Zonealarm
might be the culprit but I thought I remembered Zonealarm asking me about
something and then asking for my password to change it.
I suspect that the Router does work but I am not sure what is "blocking" the
ability of the cable modem and the computer to talk with each other through
the router. I am hoping that someone out there has a Win98 computer with
Zonealarm and the DLink DI-704p router and can tell me what I am missing.
BTW, after removing the router and reinstalling the cable modem settings,
everything works fine again.
Any ideas please or suggestions? Thanks for your help.
73
Bob KQ2M
>From w5xd at writelog.com Sun Apr 28 20:35:05 2002
From: w5xd@writelog.com (W. Wright, W5XD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SS checks
In-Reply-To: <3CCBF3CF.7030605@comteck.com>
Message-ID: <000601c1eeeb$ccdceb40$6400000a@W5XD>
For any given SS weekend, I feel free to choose either '71 (the year I know
I made my first QSO--in February) or '70 (because I seem to remember my
license date was earlier and I am too lazy to research the details).
But after sending 71 for many years, I find I get asked for a lot more fills
if I send 70. Since I am not a serious competitor and because I really
dislike the use of databases instead of copying off the air, I still plan to
send 70 some weekends just to slow down the database guys.
Wayne
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Sun Apr 28 21:59:02 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?iso-8859-1?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Rules
References: <001901c1eed2$f594d840$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
Message-ID: <00ec01c1eeef$264a9120$4215be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shelby Summerville" <k4ww@arrl.net>
> Several years ago the question of "check" came up while discussing a
> m/o using W4CN (class of 27), and we were advised "that in a m/o, the check
> should be that of the callsign being used"! IMHO, any proven, deliberate
> deviation from the "official" rules should be grounds for disqualification?
Sunuvugun, Shelby. That's going to cause a lot of difficulty for folks with
calls which have been recycled. For example our club got the call W0EF
in 1994. Before that we were KB0SAH (1992). We got the call W0EF
in memoriam of an SK member. He got the call in 1977. Prior to that
the call had first been issued in 1924 to another fellow. I was first licensed
in 1963. Now, if I am operating W0EF in SS do I use:
A. 1924 (The year W0EF was first issued)
B. 1963 (The year I was first licensed)
C. 1992 (The year the club was first licensed)
D. 1994 (The year W0EF was issued to our club)
E. 1955 (The year my cousin Frank caught the crabs on liberty in Kobe)
I bet the ARRL doesn't care a bit which date we use, so long as we use the same
number all weekend long.
73, de Hans, K0HB
>From n4zr at contesting.com Sun Apr 28 18:18:23 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SS checks
In-Reply-To: <000601c1eeeb$ccdceb40$6400000a@W5XD>
References: <3CCBF3CF.7030605@comteck.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020428171608.025b6be0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 07:35 PM 4/28/02 +0000, W. Wright, W5XD wrote:
>For any given SS weekend, I feel free to choose either '71 (the year I know
>I made my first QSO--in February) or '70 (because I seem to remember my
>license date was earlier and I am too lazy to research the details).
>
>But after sending 71 for many years, I find I get asked for a lot more fills
>if I send 70. Since I am not a serious competitor and because I really
>dislike the use of databases instead of copying off the air, I still plan to
>send 70 some weekends just to slow down the database guys.
That's good by me, Wayne -- you will join the 50 or so guys last year whose
checks and/or sections didn't agree with the ones they sent me the year
before. That's about 3 times as many as the total number of QSOs I lost
due to copying errors, so there must be quite a bit of check-changing
really going on.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From k5zd at charter.net Sun Apr 28 23:07:35 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Router/Firewall/Network/Internet spot problems?
In-Reply-To: <000701c1eed8$682227a0$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDMEHHDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
And this has what to do with contesting? Seems there are better sources of
networking tech support on the Internet.
Although it could be a welcome change from SO2R and SS checks! :)
K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Robert Shohet
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 17:16 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Router/Firewall/Network/Internet spot problems?
>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I currently am using a Dell Win98 Ver 2 computer with a Motorola SB4100
> Cable Modem and Charter Pipeline - Cable Modem Internet access. I am also
> using Zonealarm Pro Ver 2.6 as my firewall.
>
> My plan was to install a D-Link DI-704P router and then connect
> up my other
> Win98 Ver 2 computer in the shack (a Dell optiplex running on Win
> 98 Ver 2).
>
> I decided to "test" the router by first connecting it to the upstairs
> computer.
>
> I shut down Zonealarm Pro and then hooked up the router and went
> through the
> installation process.
>
> After it was installed, I noticed that I couldn't browse. So I
> went to the
> Appendix and ran the "Ping" test on the gateway address - it passed the
> test. But I still couldn't browse or receive e-mail.
>
> I called Charter - my cable/internet provider and was told that Zonealarm
> might be the culprit but I thought I remembered Zonealarm asking me about
> something and then asking for my password to change it.
>
> I suspect that the Router does work but I am not sure what is
> "blocking" the
> ability of the cable modem and the computer to talk with each
> other through
> the router. I am hoping that someone out there has a Win98 computer with
> Zonealarm and the DLink DI-704p router and can tell me what I am missing.
>
> BTW, after removing the router and reinstalling the cable modem settings,
> everything works fine again.
>
> Any ideas please or suggestions? Thanks for your help.
>
> 73
>
> Bob KQ2M
>
>
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>From steve at oakcom.com Sun Apr 28 20:27:34 2002
From: steve@oakcom.com (Steve Maki)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Router/Firewall/Network/Internet spot problems?
In-Reply-To: <000701c1eed8$682227a0$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
References: <000701c1eed8$682227a0$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
Message-ID: <ir0pcuco4oiarbj4162sogidmhh5n4g8jl@4ax.com>
KQ2M wrote:
>Hi Guys,
>
>I currently am using a Dell Win98 Ver 2 computer with a Motorola SB4100
>Cable Modem and Charter Pipeline - Cable Modem Internet access. I am also
>using Zonealarm Pro Ver 2.6 as my firewall.
>
>My plan was to install a D-Link DI-704P router and then connect up my other
>Win98 Ver 2 computer in the shack (a Dell optiplex running on Win 98 Ver 2).
>
>I decided to "test" the router by first connecting it to the upstairs
>computer.
>
>I shut down Zonealarm Pro and then hooked up the router and went through the
>installation process.
>
>After it was installed, I noticed that I couldn't browse. So I went to the
>Appendix and ran the "Ping" test on the gateway address - it passed the
>test. But I still couldn't browse or receive e-mail.
>
>I called Charter - my cable/internet provider and was told that Zonealarm
>might be the culprit but I thought I remembered Zonealarm asking me about
>something and then asking for my password to change it.
>
>I suspect that the Router does work but I am not sure what is "blocking" the
>ability of the cable modem and the computer to talk with each other through
>the router. I am hoping that someone out there has a Win98 computer with
>Zonealarm and the DLink DI-704p router and can tell me what I am missing.
>
>BTW, after removing the router and reinstalling the cable modem settings,
>everything works fine again.
>
>Any ideas please or suggestions? Thanks for your help.
Your gateway address may now be your router, in which case the
ping test only tells you that your home network is working.
Ordinarily you must notify your cable co. of your new MAC address
(the router's MAC address). After you do that, connectivity to the
outside world will REQUIRE that you have the router in line.
73
--
Steve K8LX
>From n5nj at gte.net Sun Apr 28 21:39:28 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (Bob Naumann - N5NJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Rules
References: <001901c1eed2$f594d840$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
<00ec01c1eeef$264a9120$4215be3f@bigguy>
Message-ID: <002d01c1ef1e$b3f94640$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
K4WW stated:
> Several years ago the question of "check" came up while discussing a
> m/o using W4CN (class of 27), and we were advised "that in a m/o, the
check
> should be that of the callsign being used"!
K0HB queried:
" Now, if I am operating W0EF in SS do I use:
> A. 1924 (The year W0EF was first issued)
> B. 1963 (The year I was first licensed)
> C. 1992 (The year the club was first licensed)
> D. 1994 (The year W0EF was issued to our club)
> E. 1955 (The year my cousin Frank caught the crabs on liberty in Kobe) "
The correct answer would be "C".
Because:
The callsign being used was issued to the club, and 1992 was the year the
club was first licensed.
Does it matter really? Nope.
73,
N5NJ
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Sun Apr 28 19:49:16 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
References: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Message-ID: <012b01c1ef20$12e4eff0$ede3c23f@KR6X.ORG>
I've been struggling over this one for the past two days. Here's my
answer:
If I were asked this question by the sponsors of the SS, I'd probably
suggest that a liberal interpretation of the rules was in order. I'd
probably
take the attitude that it doesn't really matter to me whether someone
used
his real check or some other number.
If I were beaten by one contact in a contest where the leader took a
liberal interpretation and sent 55 on CW where his real check was 01,
I would probably not complain bitterly and suggest that the leader be
disqualified for violating the rules.
But if I were the sponsor of the contest and I received a complaint
from
a second place operator who might have been in first place but for the
liberal interpretation that the leader took, I'd be forced to
interpret the
rules strictly, no matter what my personal opinion was.
So here I am, not in the position of a sponsor, but in the position of
a
friend being asked for advice prior to the contest while you still
have
choices. Honestly my best advice as a friend is that you should avoid
being challenged by second place; make certain you follow the strict
interpretation of the rules so that you will never be put in the
embarrassing position of being disqualified for such a pitifully tiny
issue.
KR6X
----- Original Message -----
From: <al_lorona@agilent.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 5:34 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
>
> Hi, Everybody,
>
> I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a
different check
> than my correct check. On purpose. I think I used something like
'55' in the
> CW SS, and '00' in the phone SS. Why did I do this? I guess I
thought it
> would be cool to try out another number. Or to alleviate boredom. I
don't
> know.
>
> I had talked it over with a friend before the contest and we came to
the
> conclusion that it would not be against the spirit of the rules to
do so.
> After all, the SS check is only a simulation of a real check anyway,
which
> of course is the word count of a message. And it's not the same as
changing
> your precedence or your section, which would have very serious
consequences
> for you and for others.
>
> I suspect that some folks couldn't care less what check I sent,
while others
> may take exception to the practice. I want to hear all sides,
because I'm
> thinking of doing it again.
>
> Regards,
>
> Al W6LX
>
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>From ah3c at frii.com Mon Apr 29 06:33:38 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
References: <000701c1ee37$4525c640$6400a8c0@workstation1>
<011001c1eeae$55f67560$934afea9@TL01>
Message-ID: <002a01c1ef71$b5b0f2a0$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Mark,
Great idea! You are welcome to share Buds or Beaujolais and use my '58
check any time. I'll even do mushroom/swiss omelets for the Sunday
doldroms. Who knows, contesting from home might even become fun enough for
me to get back in the fray....We could set some sort of record in the
revised "A" category: Annebriated.
73,
Pete, W0RTT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Beckwith" <swca@swbell.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
> I think if Al wants to send "55" as his check but it is not the year he
was
> first licensed, he must first find an op who was licensed in 55 like
Charles
> there. Charlie goes to Al's house, drinks the beer and eats the
sandwiches,
> and Al enter Multi-Single.
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
>
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>From Cqtestk4xs at aol.com Mon Apr 29 10:50:26 2002
From: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com (Cqtestk4xs@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Checks in SS
Message-ID: <34.26c0172d.29fea9a2@aol.com>
I really don't do much posting, but this thread is interesting. Who gives a
fat rat's tail what the check is. Other than for data analysis, one check is
as good as another. I have used 62 for years, but if the urge overcomes me,
I may use 73, 88 or some other number.
Is changing your check any different than "borrowing" a friend's desirable
call or to have a secondary "club" desirable call where you are the
trustee....especially for WPX? Check the latest claimed scores for WPX.
Lots of once a year calls are in there from some big guns.
Bill K4XS(SS)...aka WK4R(WPX)
>From kg2au at stny.rr.com Mon Apr 29 11:16:17 2002
From: kg2au@stny.rr.com (Jimmy Weierich)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Rules
In-Reply-To: <002d01c1ef1e$b3f94640$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
References: <001901c1eed2$f594d840$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
<00ec01c1eeef$264a9120$4215be3f@bigguy>
<002d01c1ef1e$b3f94640$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
Message-ID: <a05100300b8f3048b1755@[66.24.254.199]>
I became licensed as a novice in 1960. Updated to technician before
the novice expired but let it lapse after the five year term.
Became licensed again in 1994. What year should I use?
To paraphrase a former president, I guess it depends on what "first" is.
I agree with N5NJ.
Best regards,
Jimmy
>Does it matter really? Nope.
>
>73,
>N5NJ
--
Jimmy Weierich, K2LV, ex KG2AU <kg2au@stny.rr.com>
Vestal, NY USA FN12xa
>From W3DMB at aol.com Mon Apr 29 11:27:30 2002
From: W3DMB@aol.com (W3DMB@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re:[CQ Contest] 'bogus' check
Message-ID: <40.1ce8c2e3.29feb252@aol.com>
Since my check was 55 (no sense changing that) I guess I have to find another
way to get an edge.
Perhaps just use initials (GW) like the real OOTs did or change my area
or if that doesn't help - just learn to copy hi-speed cw [probably the best
idea].
Jerry, W3DMB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Beckwith" <swca@swbell.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
I think if Al wants to send "55" as his check but it is not the year he was
first licensed, he must first find an op who was licensed in 55 like Charles
there. Charlie goes to Al's house, drinks the beer and eats the sandwiches,
and Al enter Multi-Single.
Mark, N5OT
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 29 08:28:59 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Florida QSO Party - Claimed Scores 29Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204291428.g3TESx204326@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Florida QSO Party - Claimed Scores 29Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: FLQSOParty@aol.com
Mail logs to:
Florida QSO Party
c/o Ron Wetjen, WD4AHZ
5362 Castleman Dr.
Sarasota, FL 34232
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/SMixed LP
NJ4M(@WD4AHZ) 447 642 63 70 20 408,576 Sarasota Emergency R
AD4ES 444 497 67 70 20 188,745 FCG
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
MobileCW LP
K1KI/M 28 7 20 7 1 3,402 YCCC
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SchoolCW LP
K8GU 50 0 30 0 2 6,000 MRRC
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABCW HP
W4SO 693 0 87 0 120,582
VE1OP 259 0 67 0 17 34,706
K2SX 243 0 64 0 31,104 YCCC
GM3POI 230 0 67 0 30,820
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABCW LP
K8IR 319 0 66 0 18 84,216 BAY AREA WIRELESS
K5ZD 271 0 65 0 7 70,460 YCCC
NT6K 252 0 64 0 18 64,512 NCCC
W4AU 208 0 61 0 10 50,752 Loudoun ARG
W8RU 182 0 62 0 7 45,136 MRRC
K1KI 194 0 55 0 4 42,680 YCCC
NO5W 142 0 59 0 33,512
K5OT 170 0 64 0 21,760 SMC
AE9B 55 0 28 0 2 3,080
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed HP
K3WW 247 47 64 27 15 49,231 FRC
K6LA 142 152 55 41 12 41,856 SCCC
W6KC 98 72 39 28 6 17,956
N2ED 96 59 40 20 5 15,060 FRC
K8DX 36 19 20 14 1 3,094 NCC
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SOABMixed LP
N4PN 365 1646 67 121 20 893,376 Panama City ARC
N6MU(@N6NB) 367 228 66 55 20 232,804 SCCC
W8MJ 365 216 67 49 20 219,472 MRRC
N2CU 296 112 64 41 13 147,840 Western New York DX
NY1S 223 54 60 20 14 80,000
K5WO 259 83 66 0 16 79,332 NTCC
N4PK 58 340 0 0 75,696
W8CAR 140 61 49 29 10 53,196 MRRC
N9NE 206 72 61 27 11 48,928 Fond du Lac (WI)
N4CW 114 26 54 18 36,576
W9RE 153 60 58 29 31,929 SMC
K0OU 104 37 45 20 31,850 SMC
AE6Y 86 34 39 15 3 22,248 NCCC
NS3T 79 21 44 17 5 10,919
K5KA 46 6 5 29 2 6,664
AB2E 55 27 50 32 10 6,302 FRC
VE7SR(VE7TLL) 7 11 7 9 1 800
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed QRP
K5IID 239 75 66 34 15 165,900 MRRC
K1RC 190 43 1140 129 102,789
W0ETT 116 54 0 0 9 17,446 Grand Mesa
K4IU 88 31 43 16 13,865 MWA
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABSSB HP
K4XS 0 2278 0 124 20 282,472 FCG
VK2CZ 0 44 0 25 1,100
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABSSB LP
VE3BUC 0 89 0 33 4 2,937
KB9UWU 0 41 0 21 1 1,722 SMC
W1DAD 0 30 0 19 2 1,140 YCCC
W6ZZZ 0 19 0 11 209 NCCC
Operators:
AD4ES AD4ES,K9ES
NJ4M W1ROX,WD4AHZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 29 08:31:15 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 SPDX RTTY Contest - All Claimed Scores 29Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204291431.g3TEVFa04340@localhost.localdomain>
2002 SPDX RTTY Contest - All Claimed Scores 29Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: sknerus@polbox.com
Mail logs to:
SPDX RTTY Contest Manager
Christopher Ulatowski
Box 253
81-963 Gdynia 1
Poland
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op HP
SQ6Z(@SP6YAQ) 664 4269 172 24 5,711,922
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Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
AA5AU 175 78 1272 5 595,296
VA3DX 125 1093 60 4 327,900
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Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
GU0SUP 225 1475 106 938,100
PA5AT 258 1562 110 14 859,100
VE9DX 102 782 63 5 295,596
SV1XV 103 603 81 15 293,058
Operators:
SQ6Z SP3RBR,SP6RZ,SP8NR
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Apr 29 14:27:14 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K4FCG/M FQP 2,002 - long
References: <179.77cafff.29fec4e6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <036401c1efa3$1a9589c0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Congrats to team TOad - once again proving TWO TO's are better than one!
N4KM and K4OJ once again activated the club call K4FCG this year - we made a
few driving errors on the first day which team TO was kind enough to correct
on the second day...part of this was due to being a little frazzled at the
beginning of the contest...
The one thing I did not check out BEFORE the contest almost spelled
disaster - I was in charge of the computer/station and N4KM had the xcvr and
antennas installed on his new Nissan - what a great ride for ths trip...
As we connected the gear all together on Saturday morning the laptop wasn't
working - I had loaded all the NA files into it the night before and did
some trial logging and it seamed fine....the problem came in that I had done
this software stuff from home using the AC adaptor.
I had bought an off the shelf DC adaptor for the laptop power and just
plugged everything in - BIG MISTAKE.
The DC adaptor had reversable polarity on the plug and sure enough it was
exactly wrong.
Not knowing what we would find Kevin, N4KM said let's take a look inside -
as a QCAO the thought of opening up a Thinkpad Laptop and doing diagnostics
blew my mind!
After about 45 or 50 screws were removed the power supply board was found
and this little teenie tiny surface mount fuse, about the size of a grain of
rice - was found to be open....being the weekend with only a couple of hours
until the start of FQP it was decided to bridge the fuse with solder and see
if that was the only thing wrong with the computer. Mind you at this point
I had about soiled my britches...but, sure enough together it went and voila
it booted!
There is a Florida Contest God!
Now that the laptop was working we finished installing all of our gear off
we went - at the start of the contest we were running behind - had hoped to
start in Osceola but since we were running late it was actually Polk we
started in...I was so frazzled I completely forgot we were supposed to
detour into Okeechobee as one of our first counties and by the time I
realised we had missed it we were passed it - thanks to K1TO/N4TO for
covering that one Sunday...
The previous weekend we had gotten together with the Two TO's at a Floirda
cOntest Group meeting and decided to run opposite ends of the state in
oppostie directions each day - that way if one of us had an opportunity to
offer a sweep there would be a greater chance of it happening.
After a couple of hours into the contest activity really seemed to pick up
and for several hours on Saturday afternoon we were able to work as well on
15 as we were on 20 - this was fun since the same core group could work us
in the same county at least twice, now!
We made good time Saturday despite hitting the detour WD4AHZ warned us
about, and ended up adding Pinellas, and Hillsborough as well as Pasco to
our Saturday tally....at the end of the first day N4TO and K4FCG were both
in Pasco - suspect we were going in opposite directions on I75! Could hear
them "blowing by" the filters, hi!
Managed to get going ok on Sunday - we got off a little earlier than planned
so added a side trip to Citrus into the mix...dunno if that is my favorite
county or ORA, Orange!
conditions were definatley not as good on Sunday as they were Saturday, the
killer signals of GM3POI was down to s8 or s9...and 15 wasn't there for
double band core group QSOs
We knew that HA1AG needed Putnam bad so we parked there for almost an hour
and made 88 QSOs - unfortunately no Zoli to be found :-(
Things ran smooth Sunday - with all the activity from KH2D we decided to
skip hittting Northernmost Nassau and just high tailed it down 95
South...because we did that we got to return at the end to Osceola and Polk
counties.
N4KM has a great ride - it was a real pleasure to operate the FQP in style
mobile - the gear worked well - he had two antennas we could bounce
between - a screwdriver and a 20 meter ham stick.
35 Counties
1955 QSOs (1943 on CW)
20 hours...
Biggest QSOs county = Palm Beach @ 134 QSOs - 68 on 20 CW and 65 on 15 CW -
that was fun!
Average QSOs per county = 56
That's almost a hundred an hour average - thanks to everyone who
participated in the FQP, you made it fun for us guys big time!
The N4TO TOads made 2195 QSOs in 44 counties...incredable. between our two
efforts alone there were 4150 QSOs!!!!!
3830 reports keep coming in and it looks like we may have a record number of
county sweeps - including a QRP entrant and a European!
My special thanks to friend N4KM - we had a blast this weekend...if this
ain't what ham radio is about I dunno what it should be!
All of that said, one more thing....
363 Days til the next FQP, 2,003!
:-)
Jim, K4OJ
(+ N4KM ======> K4FCG/M)
>From frenaye at pcnet.com Mon Apr 29 14:30:57 2002
From: frenaye@pcnet.com (Tom Frenaye)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NEQP - a taste of New England
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020429125925.02405780@204.213.232.3 >
The activity in the FQP this past weekend will be tough to beat, but we're
going to give it a try in the New England QSO Party this next next weekend -
May 4th-5th. The full details and rules are at http://www.neqp.org/
We know of at least 200 people in New Eengland who will be active - and that
includes 13 mobiles, 3 portables and several on digital modes. One team even
plans to travel to new counties via small plane. All counties should be
covered (67 of them, the same as Florida...).
It looks like we may have a "clean sweep" of software support - CT by K1EA,
CQPWin by AE6Y, GenLog by W3KM, Logger by N1MM, NA by K8CC (not complete yet),
SD by EI5DI, TR by N6TR, Win-EQF by N3EQF, Writelog by W5XD (being tested
today). Paper logs OK also - the web site has forms for summary and log
sheets.
There are lots of reasons to operate in the NEQP, but K1DG says it best.
Check out the web site (http://www.neqp.org/) for "The Top Ten Reasons to
Operate the NEQP" The web site also has lots of other resources - list of
county abbreviations, county outline maps, list of home stations as well as
mobiles and where they plan to travel, and a list of NE county awards.
Certificates will be sent to everyone who makes at least 25 QSOs, plus there
are 19 plaques sponsored (so far), including one for the person who works a
"Clean Sweep - Not First, but Furthest", and one for the top score from
California/Nevada.
Oh yes, the reason the message subject says "a taste of New England" is that
we're going to send someone a lobster dinner for two, plus another 20 people
will receive some maple syrup or Ben & Jerry's ice cream.
-- Tom Frenaye/K1KI + Bob Hess/W1RH
(questions? --> info@neqp.org )
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New England QSO Party - May 4-5, 2002 http://www.neqp.org
>From n5nj at verizon.net Mon Apr 29 13:50:25 2002
From: n5nj@verizon.net (n5nj@verizon.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Checks in SS
Message-ID: <20020429175025.IVMU8115.out016.verizon.net@out016>
Using 73 as your check will not help!
My check is 73 and I get asked for repeats of my check very often. I think
people don't trust that they've heard that commonly heard combination and have
to be certain that they are not miscopying it.
My guess is that a combination that is unusual that forces you to pay attention
will be copied more carefully.
1 A N5NJ 73 NTX
>
> From: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Checks in SS
>
> I really don't do much posting, but this thread is interesting. Who gives a
> fat rat's tail what the check is. Other than for data analysis, one check is
> as good as another. I have used 62 for years, but if the urge overcomes me,
> I may use 73, 88 or some other number.
> Is changing your check any different than "borrowing" a friend's desirable
> call or to have a secondary "club" desirable call where you are the
> trustee....especially for WPX? Check the latest claimed scores for WPX.
> Lots of once a year calls are in there from some big guns.
> Bill K4XS(SS)...aka WK4R(WPX)
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>From al_lorona at agilent.com Mon Apr 29 15:10:03 2002
From: al_lorona@agilent.com (LORONA,AL (A-USA,ex3))
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
Message-ID: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10DB@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
When I operated the (entire) SS with the 'bogus' check, I really didn't
think about whether it would be an advantage or a disadvantage. I thought it
would be a morally and contest-ually (sic) neutral decision. Did I break the
rules? Yes. But gaining a competitive edge wasn't one of the reasons I had
for changing my check. I just wanted to program my memory keyer with a
different number.
Somebody said that, primarily because of all of the master databases in use,
that doing so could actually have been detrimental due to the higher
potential for error on the part of the station 'copying' my exchange.
However, Leigh has turned the discussion toward the possibility of it being
an *advantage*, presumably because of my specifically using the check '55'
as the example. Leigh, please correct me if I am mis-reading your
statements.
If Leigh is saying what I think he's saying, and if we are going to stick
with a strict interpretation of the SS rules regarding the check then some
of us have built-in advantages that *can't be overcome by the others*. That
is, if you are one of the lucky 55ers, you will always have the advantage
over, say, a 91er. Interesting, huh?
There was no doubt in my mind when I did it that I was in violation of the
*letter* of the law. That's why I referred to the spirit of the law in my
original post. Perhaps the only regret I had was that I skewed the
statistics of those who like to glean information from all of the checks.
Yet, (as somebody has already pointed out) if I use my club call with its
check of '97', that certainly isn't indicative of my real age in the hobby.
That in itself is a skewing of the statistics, isn't it?
Because of the balanced arguments on both sides of this issue, I believe
that without thinking too much about it, the decision I made really was
close to neutral.
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Mon Apr 29 16:21:06 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Book
In-Reply-To: <20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>; from Mike Gilmer -
N2MG on Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 09:33:14AM -0800
References: <20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>
Message-ID: <20020429152106.Q12630@cs.utexas.edu>
Any news on a contesting book?
--
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Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Apr 29 21:01:27 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Breakdown - K4FCG/Mobile Multi-Single
Message-ID: <043d01c1efda$2d1a6ca0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
de K4OJ - hope this registers somewhat, formatting may get screwy - if
anyone wants the Excel version I will send it off reflector....anxious to
compare notes with the TO Twosome who had even more QSOs than we did - they
hit 9 more counties and made 250 more QSOs than we did - our computer and
paddle was smoking - theirs must have been on fire!
Initial breakdown stats
K4FCG/Mobile - K4OJ + N4KM - FQP 2002
CTY Total CW Q SSB Q
QSOs 40 20 15 10 40 20 15 10
ALC 53 48 5
BAK 44 44
BRA 54 54
CHA 62 61 1
CIT 44 44
CLA 27 27
CLM 56 56
CLR 62 47 14 1
DUV 58 58
FLG 48 44 4
GLA 58 37 21
HAM 64 59 4 1
HEN 74 39 34 1
HER 41 6 35
HIL 44 16 28
IDR 44 32 12
LEE 91 52 39
MAO 51 44 7
MRT 29 15 14
MTE 60 14 46
ORA 48 6 42
OSC 43 2 41
PAL 134 68 65 1
PAS 85 45 40
PIN 42 9 33
POL 64 64
PUT 88 76 11 1
SAR 55 8 47
SEM 36 29 7
STJ 39 37 2
STL 36 25 11
SUM 51 47 3 1
SUW 55 55
UNI 63 58 5
VOL 52 39 13
1955 Total
There were definately regional propagation trends - form FL we seemed to
land in the right places on 20 meters asd far as most QSOs to be had - even
though 15 was very solid to the West most of the crew out there was at the
Visalia convention I suspect!
CW
40 106
20 1571
15 265
10 1
SSB
40 0
20 11
15 1
10 0
cw=1943
ssb=12
1955/35 counties 56 QSO/CTY AVG
1955/20 hours 98 QSO/Hour Avg
Now for a good nights rest...again special thanks to running mate N4KM and
W1CW/W1YL for emotional and culinary support.
Jim, K4OJ
>From ah3c at frii.com Mon Apr 29 21:54:33 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Book
References: <20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>
<20020429152106.Q12630@cs.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <003a01c1eff2$5c5ce340$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Did you ever read Bill Zachary's great "Contest Cook Book"?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth E. Harker" <kharker@cs.utexas.edu>
To: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>; <wd3q@erols.com>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest Book
> Any news on a contesting book?
>
> --
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> University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign:
WM5R
> Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest
Club
> Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on
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>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Tue Apr 30 09:23:50 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] bogus/dodgy spotting
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEAKDGAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
For those inclined to want to trace the source of
some of the questionable contest spots.....there
is a regular source of EU origin on CQDXirc, and
probably dxSummit. Today, he's using F0OL, and N0QRM,
and N1LID. The content makes it clear that he's in EU,
and that it's the same source for all three callsigns.
He's been at it for a solid hour or more, now.
There should be ample opportunity before contests to
track this guy down, if you have the capability.
n2ea
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 30 09:05:28 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Florida QSO Party - Claimed Scores 30Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204301505.g3UF5SM05245@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Florida QSO Party - Claimed Scores 30Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: FLQSOParty@aol.com
Mail logs to:
Florida QSO Party
c/o Ron Wetjen, WD4AHZ
5362 Castleman Dr.
Sarasota, FL 34232
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/SMixed HP
VE7FO 62 3 37 3 9 5,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/SMixed LP
NJ4M(@WD4AHZ) 447 642 63 70 20 408,576 Sarasota Emergency R
AD4ES 444 497 67 70 20 188,745 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
MobileCW LP
K1KI/M 28 7 20 7 1 3,402 YCCC
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
MobileMixed LP
NF4A/M 953 189 446 139 20 159,932 Panama City ARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SchoolCW LP
K8GU 50 0 30 0 ~2 6,000 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SchoolMixed LP
W7UQ(KL9A) 90 47 43 26 4 29,964 WWYC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABCW HP
W4SO 693 0 87 0 120,582
VE1OP 259 0 67 0 17 34,706
K2SX 243 0 64 0 31,104 YCCC
GM3POI 230 0 67 0 30,820
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABCW LP
K8IR 319 0 66 0 18 84,216 BAY AREA WIRELESS
K5ZD 271 0 65 0 7 70,460 YCCC
NT6K 252 0 64 0 18 64,512 NCCC
W4AU 208 0 61 0 10 50,752 Loudoun ARG
W8RU 182 0 62 0 7 45,136 MRRC
K1KI 194 0 55 0 4 42,680 YCCC
NO5W 142 0 59 0 33,512
K5OT 170 0 64 0 21,760 SMC
K3FT 77 0 42 0 4 6,308 PVRC
AE9B 55 0 28 0 2 3,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed HP
W4SAA 485 456 67 69 20 193,936 SFDXA
HA1AG 220 110 0 0 59,950
K3WW 247 47 64 27 15 49,231 FRC
K6LA 142 152 55 41 12 41,856 SCCC
K4BAI 252 24 65 12 13 40,656 SECC
K5YAA 275 68 65 26 39,552 OkDX
W6KC 98 72 39 28 6 17,956
N2ED 96 59 40 20 5 15,060 FRC
KO7X(@KI7WX) 110 41 40 3 4 11,223 PVRC
K8DX 36 19 20 14 1 3,094 NCC
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed LP
N4PN 365 1646 67 121 20 893,376 Panama City ARC
K4FQP(K5KG) 679 467 74 65 20 507,350 FCG
N6MU(@N6NB) 367 228 66 55 20 232,804 SCCC
W8MJ 365 216 67 49 20 219,472 MRRC
N2CU 296 112 64 41 13 147,840 Western New York DX
NY1S 223 54 60 20 14 80,000
K5WO 259 83 66 0 16 79,332 NTCC
N4PK 58 340 0 0 75,696
W8CAR 140 61 49 29 10 53,196 MRRC
N9NE 206 72 61 27 11 48,928 Fond du Lac (WI)
K8MR 139 42 53 23 48,640 MRRC
N4CW 114 26 54 18 36,576
N8TC 104 41 50 22 35,856 Bay Area DXers
W9RE 153 60 58 29 31,929 SMC
K0OU 104 37 45 20 31,850 SMC
AE6Y 86 34 39 15 3 22,248 NCCC
NS3T 79 21 44 17 5 10,919
K5KA 46 6 5 29 2 6,664
AB2E 55 27 50 32 10 6,302 FRC
VE7SR(VE7TLL) 7 11 7 9 1 800
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 18 1 14 1 1 285
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed QRP
K5IID 239 75 66 34 15 165,900 MRRC
N0UR 278 60 63 21 16 155,232 MWA
K1RC 190 43 1140 129 102,789
W0ETT 116 54 0 0 9 17,446 Grand Mesa
4IU 88 31 43 16 13,865 MWA
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABSSB HP
K4XS 0 2278 0 124 20 282,472 FCG
VK2CZ 0 44 0 25 1,100
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABSSB LP
VE3BUC 0 89 0 33 4 2,937
KB9UWU 0 41 0 21 1 1,722 SMC
W1DAD 0 30 0 19 2 1,140 YCCC
W6ZZZ 0 19 0 11 209 NCCC
Operators:
AD4ES AD4ES,K9ES
NJ4M W1ROX,WD4AHZ
VE7FO VE7CX,VE7FO
>From jds at twistedoak.com Tue Apr 30 12:00:09 2002
From: jds@twistedoak.com (Jeff Stai)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Book
In-Reply-To: <20020429152106.Q12630@cs.utexas.edu>
References: <20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>
<20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020430105801.00a89ea0@mail.megapathdsl.net>
At 01:21 PM 4/29/2002, Kenneth E. Harker wrote:
> Any news on a contesting book?
well, I have started looking into it, and have been collecting info, but I
was daft enough to say I would do this and then (naturally) got deeply
involved in the start of a new business. Ergo, it is "standing by", as they
say... stay tuned - jeff wk6i
Jeff Stai Twisted Oak Winery LLC
Email jds@twistedoak.com
Amateur Radio WK6I
ROC Web Page http://www.rocstock.org/
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Tue Apr 30 21:14:55 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] bogus/dodgy spotting
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEAKDGAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <000b01c1f083$b25bd7b0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
If it is on #cqdx irc channel or dxsummit with a -@ after the call as I
believe all those probably are, then it is put into the system using the
web interface at dxsummit. I and others have tried to request the logs
that the page says they keep on ip addresses but so far have not gotten
any reply. If anyone know of a contact at that site please let me know,
otherwise it is a good anonymous hole for putting in garbage.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of jljarvis
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:24
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] bogus/dodgy spotting
>
>
> For those inclined to want to trace the source of
> some of the questionable contest spots.....there
> is a regular source of EU origin on CQDXirc, and
> probably dxSummit. Today, he's using F0OL, and N0QRM,
> and N1LID. The content makes it clear that he's in EU,
> and that it's the same source for all three callsigns.
> He's been at it for a solid hour or more, now.
>
> There should be ample opportunity before contests to
> track this guy down, if you have the capability.
>
> n2ea
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>From k1ir at designet.com Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A little bit about chairs
Message-ID: <bvb2i8mrd58i0ds.300420021709@designet-jsi>
I was looking into office chairs today and found this interesting note about
office chair ergonomics. Thought you might find it useful.
http://www.tifaq.com/furniture/archive/chairs-apr96-brooks.txt
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From ve4xt at mts.net Tue Apr 30 20:46:05 2002
From: ve4xt@mts.net (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Bogus check
Message-ID: <008701c1f0a9$955fb020$0100a8c0@joe>
Hi all,
Forgive me, but I fail to see what all the hand-wringing is about...
I've always sent my "real" check (82), but only because when I first did SS
(in 83), that's what seemed logical and I've seen no reason to change it
since.
But never have I believed that the contest police would be banging down my
door if I used something different. Nobody seems to complain about the name
lottery that takes place with every NAQP (except of course CT users
frustrated that Nostradamus won't fit in the field provided (fittingly, TR
users never complained (I don't know if NA users complained, but I think
they're a bit more laid back anyway (and I've never met one of them WriteLog
guys, but I think they're OK)))).
Anyway, I just hope that if you think this is the kind of issue that will
bring the contest world to its knees, you'll give your head a shake. It just
ain't that important. No significant advantage is obtained (I mean, if
WD4AHZ wishes to use 55, I'm not going to complain) over any advantage
obtained by using the same check every year (for the database users).
When I did SS from WB0O in 1998, I used his check (the real one). It only
made sense, particularly given the database guys. I think my fill rate would
have gone way up had I not.
Kelly
ve4xt
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Mon Apr 1 00:21:39 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Popkin-Grams lurk!
In-Reply-To: <3CA67B10.720@erols.com>
References: <001601c1d755$bac8d340$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020401002004.02a1a770@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
At 21:57 03/30/02 -0500, Chuck K3FT wrote:
>but they are unique, none the less! :-)
I thought that unique meant rare, etc...
From what I hear these are not by any means rare!
73
Tom K5IID
>From khz at atnet.ru Mon Apr 1 05:48:54 2002
From: khz@atnet.ru (Serg Z. Demidov UA1OMS)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Tx-Rx Offset Standards
Message-ID: <00d001c1d920$dee03120$c4b35250@khz>
I also think that the reason of displacement signals is result of the
Doppler's effect. When I giving CQ almost all of the Japanese stations (from
east) calling a little bit above. In other hands almost all of US guys (from
west) are a little bit lower than my frequency.
73! Serg Z. Demidov UA1OMS
http://www.quadrat.ru/qsl
The all-too-obvious answer is the doppler effect caused by the rotation of
the earth, compressing any signal originating east of the U.S.--or should I
wait until Monday to bring this up?
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Silver Ward
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 11:12 AM
To: CONTEST REFLECTOR
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Tx-Rx Offset Standards
I was wondering if there is a different convention for offset standards.
We're all pretty much using the same radios but it seems unlikely that they
are pre-configured by the manufacturer to use different offsets based on the
target market. It's not much of a difference - maybe 200 Hz - but I find
myself leaving the RIT "up a little" when EU stations are answering my CQs.
How about it, EU guys? Is the converse true - that you have to listen a
little lower in frequency when running USA?
73, Ward N0AX
>From zf2nt at candw.ky Mon Apr 1 03:51:52 2002
From: zf2nt@candw.ky (Bruce B. Sawyer)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Dayton Bathtub
Message-ID: <000d01c1d930$95fb0c40$e575883f@ibm1050257>
>I don't snore, chew (anymore), or go with the girls that do.
Is 1 out of 3 good enough? I've got the same problem K7BG does...I think I
can find my way to Dayton OK (first go to SLC , then follow the sun for the
next three days, right?), but once I get there, then what? Anybody willing
to share a spot on the floor in their Crowne Plaza room? I don't snore, but
can't make any promises about the other two. Will gladly share
expenses...on the room. You gotta pull full freight on the other two,
though.
Bruce, ZF2NT
>From ab0mv at ix.netcom.com Mon Apr 1 09:45:36 2002
From: ab0mv@ix.netcom.com (Merri)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OFF Freq Callers
Message-ID: <Springmail.0994.1017683136.0.37526100@webmail.pas.earthlink.net>
And it seems quite a few people call YLs off frequency regardless of
continent/country.
Merri AB0MV
>From g.m.mcadams at worldnet.att.net Mon Apr 1 10:35:52 2002
From: g.m.mcadams@worldnet.att.net (Gary McAdams)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Message-ID: <00c301c1d9ac$5d282980$7ca2520c@computername>
Hello Guys,
I have a question about the WPX contest.
My call is WG7X and with this call, I always
thought that I would be a popular fellow in
the various WPX contests. This has not
been the case, ever, and I have participated
in quite a few of these tests.
Recent rules changes have made Q's on the
same continent worth at least one point, and
with my WG7 prefix I'm also a multiplier.
During the SSB test, I was S&P'in and many
stations said: Thanks for the mult!" and quite
a few gave me the unsolicited "big signal"
report. (DX and Domestic)
So, given that I have a fairly good signal, and
a weird call, I wonder why I could not get even a
small run going? S&P got me to about 350 q's
(and almost every one a new mult) but I could not
get any answers to my CQ's...
Should I expect to be sought out as a needed
multiplier, or continue to participate in my normal
way in the S&P mode? W7's are literally a dime
a dozen and I've always thought that the WPX offered
myself and others a way to be popular, if only
for a short time.
Thoughts?
Gary, WG7X
>From w8ji at contesting.com Mon Apr 1 16:06:28 2002
From: w8ji@contesting.com (Tom Rauch)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Tx-Rx Offset Standards
In-Reply-To: <00d001c1d920$dee03120$c4b35250@khz>
Message-ID: <3CA88584.1369.44DE010@localhost>
> I also think that the reason of displacement signals is result of the
> Doppler's effect. When I giving CQ almost all of the Japanese stations
> (from east) calling a little bit above. In other hands almost all of
> US guys (from west) are a little bit lower than my frequency.
Hi Sege,
I am not sure if you are serious, but this is the day we have for
jokes in the USA. In case anyone takes that serious, it was not.
The earth could rotate 10,000 miles per second, and there would
be no doppler effect.
Doppler only occurs when the path length is changing, not when
the path is moving but staying exactly the same distance.
It could be more a culture thing, that USA operators listen to lower
pitched tones more often than JA, or vice versa. But it is definitely
not earth rotation. Thank goodness, or WWV frequency standards
would not work, and the AM BC band would be full of heterodynes.
73, Tom W8JI
W8JI@contesting.com
>From tomek at sp5zcc.waw.pl Tue Apr 2 12:00:05 2002
From: tomek@sp5zcc.waw.pl (SP5UAF)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SP DX Contest
Message-ID: <19210028770.20020402120005@sp5zcc.waw.pl>
Hello,
I would like to let you know about SP DX Contest. This year event will
take place during the coming weekend (every year the first weekend of
April).
Please visit SP DX Contest WWW
http://www.sp5zcc.waw.pl/spdxc/
There you can find all necessary information: rules, special awards,
contest logging software, information about Polish awards, result from
previous years etc.
Contest rules are published in many language versions (Polish,
English, German, French, Portuguese, Spanih, Norwich and even
Chinese).
We do hope to meet all of you in the SP DX Contest 2002.
73
Tom SP5UAF
(responsible for SP DX Contest WWW)
>From n4zr at contesting.com Tue Apr 2 08:48:33 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Recording software with AGC
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020402084424.0505e020@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
I've gotten my second shack PC set up, so I'm now prepared to record
contests to disk, but I'm encountering one issue. To record everything
that comes from both radios (2 channels in the Mark 5, one in the TS-930) I
think I need to get the audio in stereo at the headphone jack of my 2-radio
box and then combine the two streams into one recording channel. The
combining is no problem, but if I do that, I will have to contend with
varying audio levels.
I'm wondering if anyone knows of a piece of recording software that
implements AGC, or how others get around this issue?
Thanks!
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Tue Apr 2 14:37:09 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020402133709.012cabe0@pop.vnet.net>
WG7X wrote:
>Should I expect to be sought out as a needed
multiplier, or continue to participate in my normal
way in the S&P mode? W7's are literally a dime
a dozen and I've always thought that the WPX offered
myself and others a way to be popular, if only
for a short time.
Gary, your prefix is rare but not rare enough, hi!
Serious SOAB or SOSB WPX contesters will get ~1000 prefixes
in this contest, so one more prefix will only add 1/1000 or
0.1% to their score. As long as conditions allow running
stations at fairly high rates (say 70 or higher), most guys
will simply run and let the prefix multipliers come to them.
The only time I ever tune for stations in this contest is
when rates drop below what I think is a reasonable rate.
In CQWW or ARRL DX, multipliers are worth much more than in
WPX since there are fewer of them. I'm sure the SO2R guys in
WPX were looking for you, but there were just not enough for
you to notice it.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n5nj at gte.net Tue Apr 2 10:09:31 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (n5nj@gte.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Message-ID: <RELAY2Ky8pnidKrlVKv000011ec@relay2.softcomca.com>
Gary,
The answer to your question is not a simple one. There are many factors that
contribute to a station being heard and able to attract many callers.
I know that I remarked to several stations during this past weekend's contest
that they had great signals - but you have to understand the reference points.
The reference points are those stations barely at the noise level and are very
difficult to copy. At times, a station that you can hear clearly, even if he's
S2 or less can have a "big signal". It's all relative.
Now, look at your station. Are you running an amplifier? What kind of
antennas do you have? Directional? Vertical? Dipoles? Those guys you hear
that are 40 over S9 at your place are running stacked yagis and legal limit
amplifiers. Are you?
Next, are you aware of your surroundings? What I mean here is do you know who
is above & below your frequency? Could they be covering you up and you don't
realize it? Is there a pileup on a nearby frequency that you might not be able
to hear both sides of?
If you don't have one of the big stations and want to get a run going, you must
isolate your signal from all of those big gun stations. To make your signal
stand out, find smaller stations to set up near. This is not as easy to
actually do as it is to describe it here, but the ability to gauge the
surroundings is an acquired skill - you almost have to have a "feel" for what's
going on. You also have to have excellent equipment that is working perfectly.
You receiver must be very sensitive and you have to be able to discern weak
signals. I'm not talking about working weak stations, I'm talking about
hearing what's going on around your chosen frequency.
Think about the above comments, and continue the discussion.
73,
Bob N5NJ
Original Message:
-----------------
From: Gary McAdams g.m.mcadams@worldnet.att.net
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Hello Guys,
I have a question about the WPX contest.
My call is WG7X and with this call, I always
thought that I would be a popular fellow in
the various WPX contests. This has not
been the case, ever, and I have participated
in quite a few of these tests.
Recent rules changes have made Q's on the
same continent worth at least one point, and
with my WG7 prefix I'm also a multiplier.
During the SSB test, I was S&P'in and many
stations said: Thanks for the mult!" and quite
a few gave me the unsolicited "big signal"
report. (DX and Domestic)
So, given that I have a fairly good signal, and
a weird call, I wonder why I could not get even a
small run going? S&P got me to about 350 q's
(and almost every one a new mult) but I could not
get any answers to my CQ's...
Should I expect to be sought out as a needed
multiplier, or continue to participate in my normal
way in the S&P mode? W7's are literally a dime
a dozen and I've always thought that the WPX offered
myself and others a way to be popular, if only
for a short time.
Thoughts?
Gary, WG7X
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 2 07:11:24 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 02Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020402071039.00ad8da0@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 02Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to: (see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(BR)AB LP
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB LP
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
K5PI(@W5KFT) 918 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
Operators:
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 2 07:14:18 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 02Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020402071241.00adba30@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 02Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to: (see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
Operators:
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From kl7ra at blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov Tue Apr 2 08:30:43 2002
From: kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov (KL7RA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Message-ID: <03bf01c1da6c$1ede68e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
Gary writes:
>My call is WG7X and with this call, I always
>thought that I would be a popular fellow in
>the various WPX contests. This has not
>been the case, ever, and I have participated
>in quite a few of these tests.
Hi Gary
The problem is the WPX is a rate contest and most of
the serious stations are calling CQ. The other problem
is there are a lot of prefixes in this contest so the single
op has little incentive to search them out.
Here's what to do:
Wait until late Sunday to operate. If no other WG7 prefix
has been active you will be swapped by the M/M, M/S
stations after the first spot. And they will be loud, tired
and hungry.
Good luck.
73 Rich KL7RA
>From n2mg at contesting.com Tue Apr 2 10:30:37 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OFF Freq Callers
Message-ID:
<20020402103038.20183.c002-h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
I think many of them get flustered at the prospect of
actually talking to a girl!
73 Mike N2MG
On Mon, 01 April 2002, Merri wrote
> And it seems quite a few people call YLs off
> frequency regardless of continent/country.
>
> Merri AB0MV
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Tue Apr 2 14:54:58 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
References: <200204021703.g32H3UAl018918@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <031501c1da84$1d63c2e0$03010a0a@office1>
Gary,
I think the short answer is that now that almost every US prefix possible is
available (with the exception of the KP/NP/WP blocks from 6 thru 0, as I
don't think any of the old old Palmyra KP6 calls are still QRV), no one
prefix stands out from all of the others.
Trust me -- I miss the days when WN3 was a super-rare prefix in the contest!
Someone will always be needing us for mults, but because of the
preponderance of US mults, few will be actively looking for us specifically,
so plan your future strategy accordingly.
I also spent almost all of my limited time this weekend on S&P, and I'm
satisfied with my score (350 Q's, over 250K points), all things
considered -- especially since it was barefoot with verticals.
And no Popkin-grams to date, but the week is yet young...
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
From: "Gary McAdams" <g.m.mcadams@worldnet.att.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Hello Guys,
I have a question about the WPX contest.
My call is WG7X and with this call, I always
thought that I would be a popular fellow in
the various WPX contests. This has not
been the case, ever, and I have participated
in quite a few of these tests.
Recent rules changes have made Q's on the
same continent worth at least one point, and
with my WG7 prefix I'm also a multiplier.
During the SSB test, I was S&P'in and many
stations said: Thanks for the mult!" and quite
a few gave me the unsolicited "big signal"
report. (DX and Domestic)
So, given that I have a fairly good signal, and
a weird call, I wonder why I could not get even a
small run going? S&P got me to about 350 q's
(and almost every one a new mult) but I could not
get any answers to my CQ's...
Should I expect to be sought out as a needed
multiplier, or continue to participate in my normal
way in the S&P mode? W7's are literally a dime
a dozen and I've always thought that the WPX offered
myself and others a way to be popular, if only
for a short time.
Thoughts?
Gary, WG7X
--__--__--
>From windev at inetmarket.com Tue Apr 2 17:07:09 2002
From: windev@inetmarket.com (Gerry Hull)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NAB -> See you there.
Message-ID: <20020402170356.B5C7.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Hi,
Looking forward to meeting fellow contesters at the
NAB ham gettogether next Wednesday...
73, Gerry Hull, W1VE/VE1RM
(Oh, National Association of Broadcasters covention in Vegas, for
those who are wondering.)
Hull Computer Consulting
POB C, Greenfield, NH
Home Office: 603-547-8327
Voice Mail/Fax: 866-823-5473
email: windev@inetmarket.com
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Wed Apr 3 00:51:47 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020403004236.00d8b650@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
Gosh guys, just because I don't have multiple towers, antennas, rigs,
and/or the money to buy them doesn't mean that I am not a serious
contester. Even in the WPX. I love this "sport" and will keep doing it
till I can't do it anymore.
But the question I have always wondered is, is everybody is running,
how are you getting the Q's.
I made possibly 15 Q's this wekend via "running", it was more like a
very slow walk, and I wound up with over 1k Q's and 1.3 million points.
So you should thank us S&P ops and not belittle them(us) by intimating
that we are not serious ops. Absolutely we are serious, and if we weren't
you would have much fewer Q's in the log.
Some people drive Porsches and some of us drive Fords or whatever.
That doesn't mean we can't get to work on time.
73, Tom K5IID
>From david.e.burger at au.pwcglobal.com Wed Apr 3 13:04:43 2002
From: david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com (david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] KT6RU, and odd callsigns VK8AA and 80/75m
Message-ID: <OF33D3F58C.9F20E7C2-ONCA256B90.000F8295@aap.pwcinternal.com>
Dan, you were loud on 40m - but it looked like I worked a few stateside 40m
QRP'ers there as well !
Regarding oddball callsigns (like VK8AA), the real money is on a 6 pointer
and a new mult in one hit, but I cannot access spotting systems where I
operate, so its very much like Rich's comments - just work them and the
mults follow. This was my first serious attempt on 160/80 and 40m...
2003 antenna sketch's are already complete !!
I don't frequent 80/75 outside contests, but as our little 5Khz VK/NA SSB
window was 'busy', getting people to listen down to 3699 for me was a
challenge. Is there a split contest protocol on 80/75 in place like 40m ?
I worked about 10% of what I heard on 80/75, even though US sigs were
10over or more. My wideband 80m antenna was 40m off the ground and 30m
from the beach and seemed to work OK.
David VK8AA
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>From yt3t at absolutok.net Wed Apr 3 12:17:46 2002
From: yt3t@absolutok.net (Kele YT3T)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Economics of Contest QSLing
Message-ID: <008201c1daf8$d0f75820$9de45d50@pentium>
Hi everyone,
as a perrennial QSL designer and printer, I am curious to check if anyone
would be interested to use the following service:
1. Sending QSO data files via email to YU1AO
2. Approving proposed QSL card design and cost
3. Sending funds for the service
4. Having QSLs printed, filled and shipped to bureaus and managers.
This way, many of you can save time and complications, some ink for the
printer... Please note, this is one way process, I am not offering to handle
cards received from bureau/mgrs. Only transmitt. The only paper I am ready
to receive (for this time, in this matter) are your funds.
There are some people who like my designs and prints, and as I am building
(finally) a contest station on the hilltop, additional service is a must, to
make everyone happy :-)
Yes, one must trust that the job will be done honestly as agreed, and that
is probably the main disadvantage of this proposal, but as an ambitious
contester I take a risk to be blamed in the contest community, whatever I
do, and that is just a bit more valuable to me than required pennies.
Please send me your opinions on this subject.
73s
Kele
YU1AO, YT3T, N2KAB
email to yt3t@absolutok.net
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Wed Apr 3 16:14:44 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Yesterdaaaaay
Message-ID: <014101c1db22$4a69c020$5017be3f@bigguy>
The Beatles - Loss Of Logbook (To the tune of "Yesterday")
Yesterday,
All those backups seemed a waste of pay.
Now my log has gone away.
Oh I believe in yesterday.
Suddenly,
There's not half the Q's there used to be,
And log submission's hanging over me.
Oh CT crashed so suddenly.
I pushed something wrong,
What it was, I could not say.
Now my Q's have gone and I long
for yesterday-ay-ay-ay.
Yesterday,
The need for back-ups seemed so far away.
I knew my Cabrillo was here to stay,
Now I believe in yesterday.
(???) 73, de Hans, K0HB
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Wed Apr 3 11:18:07 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <003901c1db33$85fb0480$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
So what do other people think about eQSL.cc change of policy?
The main page of the web site now says:
"We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of our
InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have confirmed."
So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and who by
law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL out of
courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I have
faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc -- now you
are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It seems
that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able to
respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not even be
able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From hamradio at earthlink.net Wed Apr 3 09:49:03 2002
From: hamradio@earthlink.net (Vincent Walton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Address for D44DD?
Message-ID: <41200243317493120@earthlink.net>
I worked a D44DD in the CQ WW WPX contest last weekend, anyone have an
address for this call?
Thanks
--- Vince, K6BIR
--- hamradio@earthlink.net
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Wed Apr 3 12:54:38 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
References: <200204031702.g33H2aAl007367@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <04fe01c1db39$2b909900$03010a0a@office1>
Tom,
I'm not sure where you're coming from. When I say that I'm not "serious" in
a contest, that only means that I'm out there to hand out Q's, usually S&P,
for the benefit of other operators. It's a recognition that my interest in
a high score in that particular contest isn't there, for whatever reason.
Maybe my equipment's not up to snuff due to my location. But usually it's
because I have limited time to devote to that particular contest due to
time, work, family, or other neccesary tasks & obligations.
A contest I'll take "seriously" is one where I am planning a strategy in an
effort to place highly or even win. For example, I put a "serious" effort
into ARRL DX Phone this year and did very well for myself. Most years I put
a "serious" effort into the PA QSO Party, either for myself and/or my
club -- I've helped out a lot behind the scenes the last few years with the
club efforts and we're getting some really good contesters out of the
effort. And so on.
So saying that I'm not "serious" is not by any means belittling nor should
it be interpreted as such. It's just an indication of how hard I worked at
it. I sure wish I could put a serious effort into most of the major
contests, it's just not possible right now.
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
From: Tom Horton <k5iid@ntelos.net>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
Gosh guys, just because I don't have multiple towers, antennas, rigs,
and/or the money to buy them doesn't mean that I am not a serious
contester. Even in the WPX. I love this "sport" and will keep doing it
till I can't do it anymore.
But the question I have always wondered is, is everybody is running,
how are you getting the Q's.
I made possibly 15 Q's this wekend via "running", it was more like a
very slow walk, and I wound up with over 1k Q's and 1.3 million points.
So you should thank us S&P ops and not belittle them(us) by intimating
that we are not serious ops. Absolutely we are serious, and if we weren't
you would have much fewer Q's in the log.
Some people drive Porsches and some of us drive Fords or whatever.
That doesn't mean we can't get to work on time.
73, Tom K5IID
>From dhenderson at arrl.org Wed Apr 3 14:15:24 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2001 ARRL Ten Meter Contest Logs Received
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B7687@KAHLESS>
The list of Logs Received for the 2001 ARRL Ten Meter Contest has been
posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
If you find an error in your listing, or if your listing is missing, please
contact me at n1nd@arrl.org. Please have your receipt number available if
you submitted electronically.
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From dhenderson at arrl.org Wed Apr 3 14:55:33 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Logs Received posted for 2001 ARRL 160-Meter Contest
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B7688@KAHLESS>
The list of Logs Received for the 2001 ARRL 160-Meter Contest has been
posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
If you find an error in your listing, or if your listing is missing, please
contact me at n1nd@arrl.org. Please have your receipt number available if
you submitted electronically.
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Wed Apr 3 20:07:17 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
In-Reply-To: <04fe01c1db39$2b909900$03010a0a@office1>
References: <200204031702.g33H2aAl007367@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020403200113.00c84b00@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
Ron,
I agree with you.
What I was getting at is that apparently some folks think that
if you are not a big gun and don't get over 1000 prefixes in
the WPX contest, then you are not a serious contester.
I've been contesting probably as long as most anyone on this
reflector and a heck of a lot more than most that are here.
No, I have never won a big contest nationally , but I do and have
won my section several times over the years. I've placed in the
Top Ten in a few. So to intimate that, since I only got 523 prefixes
last weekend, I am not a serious contester I really don't
think is accurate.
That's all I was saying.
73, Tom K5IID
At 12:54 04/03/02 -0500, Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
>Tom,
>
>I'm not sure where you're coming from. When I say that I'm not "serious" in
>a contest, that only means that I'm out there to hand out Q's, usually S&P,
>for the benefit of other operators. It's a recognition that my interest in
>a high score in that particular contest isn't there, for whatever reason.
>Maybe my equipment's not up to snuff due to my location. But usually it's
>because I have limited time to devote to that particular contest due to
>time, work, family, or other neccesary tasks & obligations.
>
>A contest I'll take "seriously" is one where I am planning a strategy in an
>effort to place highly or even win. For example, I put a "serious" effort
>into ARRL DX Phone this year and did very well for myself. Most years I put
>a "serious" effort into the PA QSO Party, either for myself and/or my
>club -- I've helped out a lot behind the scenes the last few years with the
>club efforts and we're getting some really good contesters out of the
>effort. And so on.
>
>So saying that I'm not "serious" is not by any means belittling nor should
>it be interpreted as such. It's just an indication of how hard I worked at
>it. I sure wish I could put a serious effort into most of the major
>contests, it's just not possible right now.
>
>73, ron wn3vaw
>
>"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
>
>-- The Firesign Theatre
>
>----- Original Message -----
>To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>From: Tom Horton <k5iid@ntelos.net>
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
>
>Gosh guys, just because I don't have multiple towers, antennas, rigs,
>and/or the money to buy them doesn't mean that I am not a serious
>contester. Even in the WPX. I love this "sport" and will keep doing it
>till I can't do it anymore.
>But the question I have always wondered is, is everybody is running,
>how are you getting the Q's.
> I made possibly 15 Q's this wekend via "running", it was more like a
>very slow walk, and I wound up with over 1k Q's and 1.3 million points.
>So you should thank us S&P ops and not belittle them(us) by intimating
>that we are not serious ops. Absolutely we are serious, and if we weren't
>you would have much fewer Q's in the log.
>Some people drive Porsches and some of us drive Fords or whatever.
>That doesn't mean we can't get to work on time.
>73, Tom K5IID
>
>
>
>
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>CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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>From a.annesi at libero.it Wed Apr 3 22:10:34 2002
From: a.annesi@libero.it (Alberto Annesi - IV3TAN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: R: [CQ-Contest] Address for D44DD?
References: <41200243317493120@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <003a01c1db4b$9d5f8e80$9c3e1997@m1f8y5>
Hi Vince,
we was active during the last WPX SSB with D44TD Callsign.
The qsl manager is CT1EKF.
73
de IV3TAN (D44TC and one of D44TD)
----- Original Message -----
From: Vincent Walton <hamradio@earthlink.net>
To: CQ Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Cc: Contest Reflector <contest@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:00 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Address for D44DD?
> I worked a D44DD in the CQ WW WPX contest last weekend, anyone have an
> address for this call?
> Thanks
>
> --- Vince, K6BIR
> --- hamradio@earthlink.net
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From k1ir at designet.com Wed Apr 3 20:37:06 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <s1h8xf5bc0ebapn.030420022037@designet-jsi>
Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we can
call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the point? If
you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We submit the
information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review their
logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one, but I
don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks are off
by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line QSL - no
QSO - and no way to track it.
What do the DXCC Rules say?
"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply, written
proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be submitted
directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . . Staff may
accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
and,
"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call signs of
both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and date, time
and band."
For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new double-blind
confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic QSLing.
It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure to get
them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether printed or
electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL DXCC
policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From K4tmc at aol.com Wed Apr 3 21:03:12 2002
From: K4tmc@aol.com (K4tmc@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April CQ arrives
Message-ID: <c9.20099b03.29dd0e60@aol.com>
Front cover photo of W0GG in his neat shack with details of his station
inside.
Contest related items:
Results - 2001 CQ WW WPX CW Contest
The (Golden) Triangle of Contesting in Poland
Contesting - CQ's 2002 Contest Survey
Propagation - Cycle 23 is Dying (Not)
Our Readers Say - Limit Contesting Frequencies (letter)
Other interesting items:
Zero Bias (editorial) - Lobbying 101
Public Service - President Bush Praises Hams, Calls for More Volunteering
The Impact of Solar Storms on World Economies and the Birth of A New
Commodities Trading Technique (remember what month this is)
The Heyday of CW at Sea, Part II, A radio Operator's Life at Sea
Reader Survey - questions about antenna restriction experiences
Make Your Mobile Mic "Hands Free"
Softbrewing a Logbook, A Primer For Database Design
World of Ideas - Keys 2002, New, Old, and Always Terrific!, Part II
QRP - More Build'em Notes and FT-817 Tips
DX - Getting the DX, Keep Your Cool and Listen!
VHF Plus - Sunspots: Downhill? Not So Fast!
Ads:
Sorry, no ad for the "new" series of Mark-V FT-1000MP Marine, Aeronautical,
Silver, Gold, etc. rigs? maybe next April!
73 & High Rates,
Henry Pollock - K4TMC
Raleigh, NC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 3 19:46:34 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 03Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204040346.g343kYt04764@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 03Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
A new era has begun for producing contest summaries. In the past, it
would be neccessary for individuals to collect and format the data
at periodic intervals and then mail out the results. The Web Submission form by
Bruce/WA7BNM was a big improvement as it allowed the data to be parsed and
imported by software. The next logical leap is to have a database itself
produce reports and we are close to that that point. The data being input into
the Web Submission pages is going into a database and reports can be produced
at whim. All the WPX reports including this one have been generated from that
database. The possibilities are endless. For now, while the system gets
fine-tuned and Bruce refines the system, I will continue sending
out the summaries as e-mail. We hope you will continue your fine tradition of
comments and input.
One downside, if you don't use the Web-page submission forms, it's really going
to be hard to show your results in the summaries. For now, Bruce is manually
inputting that data but it's slow and demanding process and probably not
something that can go on for long. This doesn't mean you can't post your own
results to 3830, it just means that they will be delayed for now and may not
get into summaries in the future. It's a lot of work to manually input contest
data and a job I have seriously been considering giving up. Now that the
technology is available to make that job unneccesary, I really implore that you
use the Web-page submission forms IF you want to be in the summaries.
best
dink
comments can be sent to mwdink@eskimo.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
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USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(BR)AB LP
WN6K 859 435 29:45 723,405 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
K5PI(@W5KFT) 918 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX(DON) 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM3GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 3 19:47:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 03Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204040347.g343lZ404773@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 03Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
A new era has begun for producing contest summaries. In the past, it
would be neccessary for individuals to collect and format the data
at periodic intervals and then mail out the results. The Web Submission form by
Bruce/WA7BNM was a big improvement as it allowed the data to be parsed and
imported by software. The next logical leap is to have a database itself
produce reports and we are close to that that point. The data being input into
the Web Submission pages is going into a database and reports can be produced
at whim. All the WPX reports including this one have been generated from that
database. The possibilities are endless. For now, while the system gets
fine-tuned and Bruce refines the system, I will continue sending
out the summaries as e-mail. We hope you will continue your fine tradition of
comments and input.
One downside, if you don't use the Web-page submission forms, it's really going
to be hard to show your results in the summaries. For now, Bruce is manually
inputting that data but it's slow and demanding process and probably not
something that can go on for long. This doesn't mean you can't post your own
results to 3830, it just means that they will be delayed for now and may not
get into summaries in the future. It's a lot of work to manually input contest
data and a job I have seriously been considering giving up. Now that the
technology is available to make that job unneccesary, I really implore that you
use the Web-page submission forms IF you want to be in the summaries.
best
dink
comments can be sent to mwdink@eskimo.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM3GU(@FM5GU) 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 @12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P 1384 599 36 2,479,860
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM3GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Apr 4 05:05:53 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
Message-ID: <006801c1db8e$09a48360$042bfa43@computer>
Quack's
Along with Tom, A serious contestor can work vy hard at it and still not
break 1000 PX , I could have done an all band effort but that is a bit much
as one rapidly approacches bit 70. I did manage 566 on Ten meters only and
had condx not crashed on Saturday, maybe 800 or so. I think that I'm a
serious contestor and have seldom been the big score in any of the DX
contest and Usually not even the top 10. Some could be to do with physical
location. eg: WWA , this just doesn't
make for big time scores where major mults from EU are not easy to get thru
the Aluminum of W1 thru W5, I heard numerious W0 call area stns wrking EU
that were just a trace here. I would recommend that there are many ways to
be serious, Always try to better previous scores , however rember that
conditions play a very big part. The main thing is to have that first 4
hrs of 130 plus average. or manage to dig 100 plus countries from a band .
W4ZV always puts 20 to 40 more 10 M countries in his log than I can manage.
No big deal he has a 40 DB advantage with Location and Antennas. I still
have fun.
CU all In the Next One
Quack aka;Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Horton" <k5iid@ntelos.net>
To: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 21:07
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
> Ron,
> I agree with you.
> What I was getting at is that apparently some folks think that
> if you are not a big gun and don't get over 1000 prefixes in
> the WPX contest, then you are not a serious contester.
> I've been contesting probably as long as most anyone on this
> reflector and a heck of a lot more than most that are here.
> No, I have never won a big contest nationally , but I do and have
> won my section several times over the years. I've placed in the
> Top Ten in a few. So to intimate that, since I only got 523 prefixes
> last weekend, I am not a serious contester I really don't
> think is accurate.
> That's all I was saying.
> 73, Tom K5IID
>
>
>
>
> At 12:54 04/03/02 -0500, Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
> >Tom,
> >
> >I'm not sure where you're coming from. When I say that I'm not "serious"
in
> >a contest, that only means that I'm out there to hand out Q's, usually
S&P,
> >for the benefit of other operators. It's a recognition that my interest
in
> >a high score in that particular contest isn't there, for whatever reason.
> >Maybe my equipment's not up to snuff due to my location. But usually
it's
> >because I have limited time to devote to that particular contest due to
> >time, work, family, or other neccesary tasks & obligations.
> >
> >A contest I'll take "seriously" is one where I am planning a strategy in
an
> >effort to place highly or even win. For example, I put a "serious"
effort
> >into ARRL DX Phone this year and did very well for myself. Most years I
put
> >a "serious" effort into the PA QSO Party, either for myself and/or my
> >club -- I've helped out a lot behind the scenes the last few years with
the
> >club efforts and we're getting some really good contesters out of the
> >effort. And so on.
> >
> >So saying that I'm not "serious" is not by any means belittling nor
should
> >it be interpreted as such. It's just an indication of how hard I worked
at
> >it. I sure wish I could put a serious effort into most of the major
> >contests, it's just not possible right now.
> >
> >73, ron wn3vaw
> >
> >"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
> >
> >-- The Firesign Theatre
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> >From: Tom Horton <k5iid@ntelos.net>
> >Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
> >
> >Gosh guys, just because I don't have multiple towers, antennas, rigs,
> >and/or the money to buy them doesn't mean that I am not a serious
> >contester. Even in the WPX. I love this "sport" and will keep doing it
> >till I can't do it anymore.
> >But the question I have always wondered is, is everybody is running,
> >how are you getting the Q's.
> > I made possibly 15 Q's this wekend via "running", it was more like a
> >very slow walk, and I wound up with over 1k Q's and 1.3 million points.
> >So you should thank us S&P ops and not belittle them(us) by intimating
> >that we are not serious ops. Absolutely we are serious, and if we weren't
> >you would have much fewer Q's in the log.
> >Some people drive Porsches and some of us drive Fords or whatever.
> >That doesn't mean we can't get to work on time.
> >73, Tom K5IID
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Wed Apr 3 23:48:05 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
K1IR's post disappoints me.
Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and why is always
the ARRL which is at fault?
Why is ARRL once again being blamed for the conniptions of the 2002 Keystone
Kops over at eQSL, who are ready to sell you a QSL card but can't grasp the
concept that they're acting as a (questionably ethical) QSL manager in the
process? Further, since my understanding (from those involved in the LotW
project) that it's eQSL that chose not to be compatible with LotW or anyone
else, why is anyone else being blamed for anything they do in their own
little world?
If you don't log a QSO and forget to fill out or send a card, and have no
way of following up on it later because of a lack of a log entry (mobile,
portable or otherwise) who's fault is this and why is this blame now being
assigned to LotW which is still a work in progress?
Where is it written that Logbook of the World is going to eliminate the
current use and acceptance of printed QSL cards when everything I have seen
& read to date indicates otherwise?
And most importantly Jim, answer us this: If you think this is a step in
the wrong direction, then what would you have them do? And how would you
make it work? It's easy to crticize and assign blame. You don't care for
the solution? Then what would you do?
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Organization: DesigNET International
Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we can
call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the point?
If
you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We submit
the
information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review
their
logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one, but
I
don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks are
off
by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line QSL -
no
QSO - and no way to track it.
What do the DXCC Rules say?
"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply,
written
proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be submitted
directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . . Staff may
accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
and,
"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call signs
of
both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and date,
time
and band."
For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new double-blind
confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic QSLing.
It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure to
get
them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether printed
or
electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL DXCC
policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 3 21:30:36 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW 160 SSB - Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020403213017.00a153f0@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 CQWW 160 SSB - Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: March 31.2002
E-mail logs to: cq160@kkn.net
Mail logs to: (none, CQ has asked that all logs be e-mailed)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
3830 archives - http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
DX Multi-Op LP
SN8V @SP8YMM 64 0 30 9,810
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
DX Multi-Op HP
KG4DZ 3430 3,231,060
XE1RCS 747 53 27 301,840
EI7M 546 29 44 248,500
4O6A @YT6A 550 18 52 221,600
G3UEG 417 20 51 20 166,700
DL2DBH (DJ9DZ) 312 9 45 17 82,836
M0ABC 376 7 44 1,791
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
DX SO LP
P40A (KK9A) 114 33 7 44,080
IK8HCG 190 3 40 39,474
V31AH (W0AH) 239 39 15 14 32,076
SP9BQJ 152 1 40 31,119 SPDXCLUB
OH6NIO 131 0 35 22,820 CONTEST CLUB FINLAND
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
DX SO HP
OT2T (ON4UN) 704 32 57 398,097
SV8CS 664 19 57 270,028
OH0NL 454 6 52 141,346 CONTEST CLUB FINLAND
LY2FY 433 7 20 141,215 KTU RC
RU6LA 363 2 55 14 109,098
LY2TA @LY7Z 114 10 41 4 33,864
G3SVL 66 6 29 4 12,985
RW4PL 51 32 1 8,320
XE2AC 23 8 3 3 1,221
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
USA/VE Multi-Op HP
N8TR 1068 58 32 33 234,000
VE3DC 674 54 10 209,536
AA4V 580 52 30 8 118,080
AA1K 531 51 28 11 113,602
WD5R 702 54 16 24 109,550
N7GP @W7MCO 608 54 12 24 89,100
NZ1U @KB1H 345 48 25 69,861
K3WW 482 46 12 12 66,758
K3OO 219 17 38 32,285
K3OOO 159 34 6 14,720
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
USA/VE SO QRP
W0ETC 341 50 3 38,531
KR0B (KS0T) 287 50 3 12 33,125
VA3TTT 104 28 1 14,558
WB6BWZ 38 17 0 1,292
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
USA/VE SO LP
VA3RU 478 54 12 154,572
K1PX 773 57 10 24 115,106
AC0W 518 53 7 14 68,640
W1CTN 326 51 16 16 53,868
K0UK 328 51 4 40,700 GRAND MESA
W3LL 288 42 5 23 29,093
AA1UT 206 39 2 21 18,614
K1JT 172 37 6 10 16,684
N8PY 128 123 5 8 11,560
W3MF 139 34 2 3 11,088
N1LW 84 33 3 7,092
W8DRZ 68 30 0 8 4,040
VE3RCN 42 20 3,900
KW8W 70 22 1 4 3,278
N4CW 50 26 0 2,834
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
USA/VE SO HP
VA3KA @VE3QAA 717 57 30 317,898
W4MYA 1177 58 41 27 306,603
VE3PN 680 56 30 22 297,818
WB9Z 1409 58 31 27 297,171
N4UK 1022 57 34 232,232
N3HBX 889 56 24 173,760
K9NR 952 57 19 164,236
K4JNY 838 54 21 143,775
K3NM 677 56 20 124,336
K0DU 739 54 14 25 112,880
W5PR 656 52 20 112,104
NX9T 696 52 17 108,261
K8DX 477 48 25 96,944
K2UOP 602 52 10 13 82,522
W3GH 406 52 17 67,896
K1GU 422 43 10 50,668
N8KM 375 46 12 50,228
AC8G 299 51 10 10 42,212
AA4NC 300 42 15 41,838
K0EJ 400 44 4 40,800
KO7X @KI7WX 313 49 6 4 37,840
VE6JY 156 46 2 35,712
KG7H 274 51 4 14 33,440
N6RO 211 51 6 27,645
K4BAI 207 42 5 18,522
W4HJ 252 34 1 18,480
N3HXQ 166 33 3 3 13,248
K6SE 126 41 3 5 12,488
N7DF/TI9 (N7DF 31 18 4 2 3,410
Teams:
SN8V @SP8YMM SP8LBK, SP8NCF
KG4DZ W4ZYT W4SD N8CH KU4EC N6ZO
XE1RCS XE1JG, XE1KK, XE1ME, XE1VIC, XE1YJY
4O6A @YT6A YU7EU, YT6A
N8TR N8TR,WB8K,W8BIN,KF8UN,N8DMM
VE3DC VE3BK, VE3GCP, VE3VZ, VE3STT, VE3RZ, VA3DJ, VE
3VMO
WD5R WD5R/N5ECT
N7GP @W7MCO W7MCO, N5IA, N7QK, K7LON
NZ1U @KB1H KB1H, N1XS
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 3 21:34:45 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Russian DX Contest - Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020403213420.00a1cba0@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 Russian DX Contest - Final Claimed Scores
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
3830 Archives -http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX M/S
LY7Z HP 2452 618 24 10,755,054
LY1YK HP 2094 533 24 7,744,490
KR1G HP 1160 385 16 3,201,275
N2ED QRP 1153 298 22 2,358,074
W5NN @K5NZ HP 1074 307 24 1,951,599
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SO CW
DL2OBF @DF3KV HP 1560 494 24 5,229,978
ZC4DW (G0DEZ) LP 1429 464 4,959,690
LY2GV HP 1408 4,405,960
K3CR (LZ4AX) HP 1400 431 24 4,076,553
G3LZQ HP 941 410 16 2,782,260
HB9ARF LP 1055 380 20 2,735,240
ES5KJ (ES5RY) LP 998 373 2,539,011
N4BP HP 1001 321 17 2,087,784
AA3B HP 886 302 1,813,510
OH3XR LP 779 344 11 1,769,192
VE1OP HP 931 282 15 1,745,298
YL2LY HP 702 309 10 1,527,387
W8CAR HP 598 236 1,028,724
N2RM (N2NC) HP 577 233 7 993,279
KM5G HP 618 205 809,135
OZ0RS LP 434 232 11 727,552
K8DX HP 307 164 4 334,888
AB2E LP 320 156 316,836
HB9DTM LP 250 147 8 274,743
K5XR (W5ASP) HP 254 116 202,420
WA6O @K6ZM HP 210 103 4 162,740
K7MI HP 213 103 147,290
N2GC HP 200 119 137,207
W4SAA HP 155 116 7 129,688
K1GU HP 168 103 4 108,356
KN4Y LP 125 679 5 84,770
N2NC QRP 65 46 2 22,632
K6III QRP 30 21 2,961
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SO Mixed
SN2B (UA2FB) 2338 572 9,045,608
OZ1AA @OZ7YY HP 1982 533 24 7,771,140
N2NT HP 2067 445 24 6,267,380
HA3OV LP 1603 478 24 5,593,556
YL0A (YL2KA) LP 1411 452 24 4,653,792
VA3UZ @VA3RU HP 1724 000 24 4,399,590
YL2GD HP 1279 437 16 3,993,306
K3WW HP 1225 338 15 2,824,328
OH6NIO HP 1050 339 12 2,266,893
M0TTT LP 792 287 11 1,626,142
SM6DER LP 651 298 15 1,323,120
KQ2M HP 596 249 1,045,800
K4MA HP 449 200 602,000
N4YDU LP 364 166 7 397,736
VA3WN LP 347 131 250,472
N1SNB LP 287 119 4 214,319
KI7Y LP 258 61 191,142
YL2PN LP 182 114 4 148,428
LZ1ABC HP 225 0 60,000
VE5SF LP 102 49 29,743
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SO SSB
LY4AA @LY7A HP 1621 512 24 5,824,000
SN2X (SP2DWG) LP 1008 356 20 2,572,456
W6AAN @WF3J HP 946 266 1,762,250
WB0WAO LP 176 90 18 113,850
VE3AGC LP 127 75 5 71,775
N3GXY QRP 656 67 8 43,952
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/10
HB9CZF HP 393 97 9 286,441
I2WIJ LP 315 86 5 207,776
K2SX HP 316 92 188,508
VE3KZ HP 183 76 3 100,548
W4NZ HP 147 67 2 71,958
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/15
ZC4BS LP 312 97 5 211,654
LY2NXW LP 238 86 131,924
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/20
LY6A (LY2BM) HP 1348 146 24 1,282,026
IK8UND HP 3325 113 18 375,725
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/40
A61AR HP 499 115 439,645
YZ7DX LP 356 98 7 233,436
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/80
S53F LP 435 89 253,027
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
Russian M/S
RU1A HP 3567 732 10,261,176
RF9C @RK9CWW HP 2859 700 24 8,700,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
Russian SO Mixed
RW4PL HP 1626 478 17 2,567,338
UA9FM HP 619 268 11 751,427
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
Russian SO SSB
RA3DNC LP 954 334 1,051,098
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
Russian SOSB/10
UA9YAB HP 1062 139 14 661,640
Teams:
LY7Z LY1DS, LY2TA
LY1YK LY2FY LY3CI
KR1G KR1G W1AAX
N2ED KF2EW, K2AF, N2ED
W5NN @K5NZ UA0OFF, K5NZ
RU1A RV1AW UA1ARX RW1AC RA1AR RA1AIP RA6CO RV3ACA R
N3AZ
RF9C @RK9CWW RZ9CO, UA9CDC, RA9CKQ, UA9CIR, RA9CMO
>From frenaye at pcnet.com Thu Apr 4 08:23:16 2002
From: frenaye@pcnet.com (Tom Frenaye)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Only 30 days - NEQP
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020404081512.038f7d60@204.213.232.3 >
Organizing efforts for the (new) New England QSO Party are going well. We
hope you'll plan to spend some time working New England stations on the weekend
of May 4-5. The full rules and a whole lot more are on the NEQP web site at:
http://www.neqp.org
We are working hard to get all 67 NE counties in CT MA ME NH RI and VT active
during the contest and have commitments for 42 of them already. If you plan
to be active from NE, let us know - we'll add you to our Reserve Your County
(tnx CQP) listing. We're also looking for plaque sponsors - so far we have 8
of them sponsored. Questions or comments can go to info@neqp.org
-- Tom/K1KI and Bob/W1RH
PS: Don't forget the Florida QSO Party the weekend before - a good warm up for
the NEQP.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
New England QSO Party - May 4-5, 2002 http://www.neqp.org
>From wo4o at juno.com Thu Apr 4 07:37:26 2002
From: wo4o@juno.com (R. A. Painter)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <20020404.073749.-1846735.6.wo4o@juno.com>
Wo4o doesn't like it either. nuff sed
73, Ric
On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 11:18:07 -0600 Sylvan Katz <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
writes:
> So what do other people think about eQSL.cc change of policy?
>
> The main page of the web site now says:
>
> "We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of
> our
> InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have
> confirmed."
>
> So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and
> who by
> law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL
> out of
> courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
>
> Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I
> have
> faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
> apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc --
> now you
> are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It
> seems
> that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able
> to
> respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not
> even be
> able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
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>From kr1g at hotmail.com Thu Apr 4 20:23:11 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <F101nk27XcYVJ4w3kXg00002131@hotmail.com>
Although no longer in the LoTW or ARRL loop, and thus speaking only for
myself, I can't possibly see how making the eQSL inbox somewhat more similar
to LoTW has to do with making it "closer to DXCC acceptance".
As I've said before, I like eQSL.cc - its a nice way of sending pretty
pictures around. It does a wonderful job with "QSL images" - or whatever
term you'd like to use. I *like* it! Its pretty cool.
But security has to be designed in from the beginning, not added afterwards.
We might argue over how much security is necessary, but seriously, DXCC
belongs to the ARRL and it's their decision (and of course I happen to agree
with them - but thats the subject of another post)
73
Ted KR1G
> > "We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of
> > our
> > InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have
> > confirmed."
> >
> > So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and
> > who by
> > law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL
> > out of
> > courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
> >
> > Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I
> > have
> > faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
> > apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc --
> > now you
> > are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It
> > seems
> > that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able
> > to
> > respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not
> > even be
> > able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
> >
> > .. sylvan
> >
> > Ô¿Ô¬
> > ----------------
> > Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> > Saskatoon, SK
> > http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
> >
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> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
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>From i2uiy at cqww.com Thu Apr 4 15:35:29 2002
From: i2uiy@cqww.com (I2UIY)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
Message-ID: <4.1.20020404202805.0094deb0@popmail.libero.it>
*********************************************
* PLEASE NOTE THE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS FOR LOGS *
*********************************************
EU SPRINT 2002
In 1994 the EU Sprint Gang (I2UIY, OK2FD, DL6RAI, and G4BUO) organized the
first European Sprint contests. For 2001 there have been some rule changes,
introducing an awards programme and bringing the Spring Sprints forward in
the calendar. You can find past scores and other information about the
sprints by visiting the official EU Sprint web site at this address:
<http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/>.
The BIG news is that now we will award a certificate to the winners in each
country but this is not all. Three nice plaques will be awarded for the top
three scores from all four contests combined. Therefore, please red circle
the four EU Sprint saturdays on your calendar, we will be looking for you
starting April 13!
EU SPRINT 2002
The EU Sprint Gang hereby invites you to participate in the four European
Sprint Contests held in 2002.
ENTRANTS: any licensed station may enter the Sprint. European stations can
work everybody; stations outside of Europe can work only European stations.
CATEGORIES: Single Operator ONLY. Only ONE signal may be aired at one time.
DATES:
EU SPRINT Spring:
* SSB: second Saturday in April - 13 April 2002 - managed by G4BUO
* CW: third Saturday in April - 20 April 2002 - managed by I2UIY
EU SPRINT Autumn:
* SSB: first Saturday in October - 5 October 2002 - managed by I2UIY
* CW: second Saturday in October - 12 October 2002 - managed by OK2FD
TIME: from 15:00 UTC until 18:59 UTC.
BANDS: 20, 40 and 80 metres only.
Pilot frequencies are: SSB: 14.250, 7.050, 3.730. CW: 14.040, 7.025, 3.550
EXCHANGE: all of the following data MUST BE PART OF THE EXCHANGE:
a) your callsign,
b) the other station's callsign,
c) your serial number starting from 001 (RST not required),
d) your name or nickname.
Please note that BOTH stations MUST repeat BOTH callsigns DURING the
exchange.
A valid exchange is: "OK2FD de I2UIY 118 Paolo" while "OK2FD 118 Paolo" is
NOT a valid exchange.
SPECIAL QSY RULE: if any station initiates a call (by sending CQ, QRZ?,
etc.), he is permitted to work ONLY one station on the same frequency. He
must thereafter move AT LEAST 2 (two) kHz before he may call another
station or before he may solicit again (CQ, QRZ?, etc.) other calls.
VALID CONTACTS: valid contacts are QSOs correctly logged and confirmed.
Each operator may use ONE and ONLY one name during the Sprint. If the
exchange is copied incorrectly, that operator will receive zero (0) points.
In case of miscopied callsigns, both stations will receive zero (0) points
for that QSO.
SCORING: each valid QSO counts one 1 (one) point. The final score is the
total number of QSOs.
AWARDS: Colorful certificates will be issued to the winners of each Sprint,
and to the leaders in each country. A special plaque will also be awarded
for the top three scores from all four contests combined. To be eligible
for this award an operator must enter at least three of the Sprints in the
year. Results will be forwarded as soon as possible to Leagues, magazines
and bulletins.
LOGS: a single chronological log is required. Please send us your log via
email or on a floppy disk, if you use computer for logging. Use any of the
available software or send a plain ASCII file. A separate summary sheet is
also required. Please send us the right files: for DL2NBU software, send
yourcall.ASC; for N6TR software, send yourcall.DAT; for IK4EWK software,
send yourcall.DBF.
If you want the latest release of the DL2NBU software, you can download it
from the EU Sprint web site: <http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/>.
Log files must be sent NO LATER than 15 days after the contest to:
<eusprint@kkn.net>. The receipt of your electronic log will be confirmed.
If you do not receive a confirmation within two days, try again or use the
postal
system.
Disk logs, or paper entries must be posted NO LATER than 15 days after the
contest to the appropriate address:
* Spring SSB Sprint: Dave Lawley, G4BUO, Carramore, Coldharbour Road,
Penshurst, Kent, TN11 8EX, England, UK.
* Spring CW Sprint: Paolo Cortese, I2UIY, P. O. Box 14, 27043 Broni
(PV), Italy.
* Autumn SSB Sprint: Paolo Cortese, I2UIY, P. O. Box 14, 27043 Broni
(PV), Italy.
* Autumn CW Sprint: Karel Karmasin, OK2FD, Gen. Svobody 636, 674 01
Trebic, Czech Republic.
Thanks in advance for your participation de: G4BUO, I2UIY & OK2FD.
**************************************************
* Download the FREE software: http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/ *
**************************************************
[ ] Paolo Cortese, I2UIY / IQ2A / NH7DX / OK8AFL
[ ] Pizza & Pasta Contest Club
[ ] CQWW Contest Committee
[ ] Eu Sprint Manager
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>From k4ik at subich.com Thu Apr 4 15:50:55 2002
From: k4ik@subich.com (Joe Subich, K4IK)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>
> From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:48 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> K1IR's post disappoints me.
>
> Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and
> why is always the ARRL which is at fault?
Why are you saying the ARRL staff is always right? eQSL had a
letter/email which stated that printed QSLs from anyone acting
as a legitimate (authorized) QSL manager would be accepted.
Someone among the ARRL staff changed that after the fact to
require a "double blind" process.
I think the change after the fact and without public discussion
is bad form at the minimum.
> Further, since my understanding (from those involved in the LotW
> project) that it's eQSL that chose not to be compatible with LotW
> or anyone else, why is anyone else being blamed for anything they
> do in their own little world?
Again, why are you being an ARRL cheerleader? eQSL "was there first."
Why did LOTW decide to adopt a system that was incompatible from the
beginning and adopt a "take it or leave it" attitude?
There is room for people to work together *IF* everyone is willing
to be flexible. To take the "play by my rules or I'll take my ball
and go home" attitude does nobody any good.
73,
... Joe, K4IK
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Thu Apr 4 16:04:01 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
> If you don't log a QSO and forget to fill out or send a card, and have no
> way of following up on it later because of a lack of a log entry (mobile,
> portable or otherwise) who's fault is this and why is this blame now being
> assigned to LotW which is still a work in progress?
There is an implicit assumption in the above statement that may not be quite
accurate. It appears to assume that both sides of a qso care about awards
and QSLs. I, for example, don't really care about awards and qsl cards. On
the other hand, I sure want to help those who do by confirming their qso
with me. I don't send QSL cards by mail --- a bit too expensive for my
simple life -- however, eQSLs are ideal. Although, I must admit I have never
initiated an eQSL but I have responded to hundreds of them.
By law I do not have to keep a general log. In practice I don't keep a
general log. I do keep contest logs. After, they are scored, they are
compressed, archived and put on a shelf. Too be quite honest I do not have
the time to search through contest logs, and some months I may have 4
contests logs, to confirm each QSL or eQSL that comes to my mail and
e-mail.boxes.
I rely on the honor system - if a fellow amateur wants an eQSL card from me
then all he has to do is send me an eQSL. I will assume he values our qso
and that he is honorable enough to provide me with accurate information
about our qso in his eQSL . And until the recent change of policy at eQSL.cc
I use to "eQSL 100 percent" but it seems they are forcing me to change my
words to "I never QSL". What a pity.
As others have pointed out, QSLing "is fundamentally an honor system and we
should be striving for ways to implement that honor system as painlessly as
possible."
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Thu Apr 4 17:26:00 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ronald Rossi)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <3CACD2F8.1D5EDC2A@btv.ibm.com>
Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
>
> K1IR's post disappoints me.
>
> Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and why is always
> the ARRL which is at fault?
They were slow to pick up the ball on this issue, but still want to define a
standard and determine the rules. The folks that started eQSL are forward
looking and getting the job done. Double blind is not how it is done for paper,
why should it be done that way electronically? In answer to "how would you make
this work?"...we have a working model.
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron (kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From w7zr at citlink.net Thu Apr 4 16:15:46 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
RO
I just pulled all of my logs from eqsl and will not answer cards through
that service anymore. It's a shame.
Dick W7ZR
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sylvan Katz" <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> > If you don't log a QSO and forget to fill out or send a card, and have
no
> > way of following up on it later because of a lack of a log entry
(mobile,
> > portable or otherwise) who's fault is this and why is this blame now
being
> > assigned to LotW which is still a work in progress?
>
> There is an implicit assumption in the above statement that may not be
quite
> accurate. It appears to assume that both sides of a qso care about awards
> and QSLs. I, for example, don't really care about awards and qsl cards. On
> the other hand, I sure want to help those who do by confirming their qso
> with me. I don't send QSL cards by mail --- a bit too expensive for my
> simple life -- however, eQSLs are ideal. Although, I must admit I have
never
> initiated an eQSL but I have responded to hundreds of them.
>
> By law I do not have to keep a general log. In practice I don't keep a
> general log. I do keep contest logs. After, they are scored, they are
> compressed, archived and put on a shelf. Too be quite honest I do not have
> the time to search through contest logs, and some months I may have 4
> contests logs, to confirm each QSL or eQSL that comes to my mail and
> e-mail.boxes.
>
> I rely on the honor system - if a fellow amateur wants an eQSL card from
me
> then all he has to do is send me an eQSL. I will assume he values our qso
> and that he is honorable enough to provide me with accurate information
> about our qso in his eQSL . And until the recent change of policy at
eQSL.cc
> I use to "eQSL 100 percent" but it seems they are forcing me to change my
> words to "I never QSL". What a pity.
>
> As others have pointed out, QSLing "is fundamentally an honor system and
we
> should be striving for ways to implement that honor system as painlessly
as
> possible."
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> "A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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>
>
>From rhodes at evertek.net Thu Apr 4 17:18:02 2002
From: rhodes@evertek.net (Jim Rhodes)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <003901c1db33$85fb0480$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020404170941.00a0bd90@pop3.evertek.net>
Let me get this straight. You may or may not keep a log, that is up to you.
They are now saying that if you can't confirm the QSO because you don't
have a log, then you can't view the card, so you can't get the QSO data
from THEIR card so that you know what to put on your card. In other works
if I needed a card from VE5 all I would have had to do was send you a card
with made up information on it & you would have put the same information on
your card and posted it back to me. to me this just confirms that they
needed to close that avenue. If I can't confirm a QSO I don't send an QSL,
paper or e. If you do then you are not really helping the system.
Or am I mistaken. Is there another reason that you would be unable to
confirm a QSO?
At 11:18 AM 4/3/02, Sylvan Katz wrote:
>So what do other people think about eQSL.cc change of policy?
>
>The main page of the web site now says:
>
>"We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of our
>InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have confirmed."
>
>So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and who by
>law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL out of
>courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
>
>Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I have
>faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
>apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc -- now you
>are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It seems
>that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able to
>respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not even be
>able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
>
>.. sylvan
>
>????
>----------------
>Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
>Saskatoon, SK
>http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
>_______________________________________________
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>CQ-Contest@contesting.com
>http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
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>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Thu Apr 4 17:30:35 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>; from Joe Subich,
K4IK on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 03:50:55PM -0500
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<LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>
Message-ID: <20020404173035.E25949@cs.utexas.edu>
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 03:50:55PM -0500, Joe Subich, K4IK wrote:
>
>
> > From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:48 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> >
> >
> > K1IR's post disappoints me.
> >
> > Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and
> > why is always the ARRL which is at fault?
>
> Why are you saying the ARRL staff is always right? eQSL had a
> letter/email which stated that printed QSLs from anyone acting
> as a legitimate (authorized) QSL manager would be accepted.
"Legitimate" QSL Managers do not sell QSLs for a fee.
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Thu Apr 4 18:00:14 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>
Message-ID: <015501c1dc31$e3c17820$03010a0a@office1>
1. I am not saying ARRL is always right. I am saying that ARRL is not
automatically always in the wrong. I disagree with ARRL Leadership on many
issues, and if you don't believe that, go look at the Refarming posts over
on eHam.net
2. I agree with you that no public discussion, or at least announcement,
prior to the change by eQSL was a bad move. And I think it is unfortunate
that the explanation(s) given on the eQSL site, at present, are somewhat
superficial. That is a matter to be taken up with the people who made those
decisions, who wrote the text, and posted everything to the web site. Last
time I checked, Newington wasn't in Texas.
3. My understanding from talking to many people involved with what is now
known as the Logbook of the World project is that it was hoped from the
beginning that there would be some interaction and/or compatibility between
eQSL & LotW. It is also my understanding, based on a direct comment from
one of those participating, that it was N5UP who chose to discontinue
discussions on making the two systems compatible, not the LotW project. And
the big problem is one of security and validation issues, something which
eQSL lacked from the very beginning and still lacks in a big way today.
Otherwise I wouldn't have a "legitimate" P5SLIM eQSL jpeg file saved on my
hard drive.
4. Is it more important to be first or to do it right? If it's not done
right, what's the point in being first?
5. I have been forwarded a statement from N5UP stating that he made these
changes on his own initiative without being ordered to by anyone at the ARRL
staff and/or the LotW project. If this is true, then why is blamed being
dumped on ARRL for "forcing" the change?
6. Am I being an ARRL "cheerleader?" Hardly. I look terrible in
pom-pons and short skirts.
Besides, why does it seem always "in vogue" to bash the League and to bash
anyone who comes out in support of them? And more importantly, who do you
think the League is? The Headquarters staff? The elected and appointed
leadership? The League is it's membership -- too many of whom sit on the
fence and wait for someone else to do something, which is another issue
altogether. I am an active member of the ARRL. I have made it a point to
know the current and immediate past Division Directors, Vice Directors, and
Section Managers. And if I dislike something, I let them know. They may
tell me I'm off base, they may even may tell me to shut up and take a long
walk off a short pier, but I make my feelings known. Do you? (And I'm
lucky that the current and immediate past leadership in the Atlantic
Division listen. I've heard many complaints about other Division Directors
who allegedly don't. But that too is another issue)
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Subich, K4IK <k4ik@subich.com>
To: Ron Notarius WN3VAW <wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:48 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> K1IR's post disappoints me.
>
> Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and
> why is always the ARRL which is at fault?
Why are you saying the ARRL staff is always right? eQSL had a
letter/email which stated that printed QSLs from anyone acting
as a legitimate (authorized) QSL manager would be accepted.
Someone among the ARRL staff changed that after the fact to
require a "double blind" process.
I think the change after the fact and without public discussion
is bad form at the minimum.
> Further, since my understanding (from those involved in the LotW
> project) that it's eQSL that chose not to be compatible with LotW
> or anyone else, why is anyone else being blamed for anything they
> do in their own little world?
Again, why are you being an ARRL cheerleader? eQSL "was there first."
Why did LOTW decide to adopt a system that was incompatible from the
beginning and adopt a "take it or leave it" attitude?
There is room for people to work together *IF* everyone is willing
to be flexible. To take the "play by my rules or I'll take my ball
and go home" attitude does nobody any good.
73,
... Joe, K4IK
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Thu Apr 4 18:47:46 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1> <3CACD2F8.1D5EDC2A@btv.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <01bb01c1dc35$dd1fa2e0$03010a0a@office1>
Ron,
You make an interesting point. Why does ARRL want to define a standard and
determine the rules? Could it be because DXCC is their awards program?
Where they "slow" to pick up the ball? I think they were being cautious.
And maybe a little too conservative for my tastes too. Nevertheless, they
have taken action.
And I'm not sure why a fuss is now being made over "double blind." First,
that is indeed how it is done with paper QSL's -- after all, I send you a
card thinking that I made a contact, but until I either see your log or get
your card in return, how do I know it's there? And until you get my card,
ditto. Isn't that "double blind?" Second, this has been something that
has been requested of ALL on line logs for quite some time, and for good
reason. It is to prevent someone from fraudulently claiming a contact
actually made with another station as theirs as a "busted call." There was
a DXpedition last year where one of the ops posted complete logs early, and
they had to be recalled for that very reason.
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
From: Ronald Rossi <rrossi@btv.ibm.com>
To: Ron Notarius WN3VAW <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
>
> K1IR's post disappoints me.
>
> Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and why is
always
> the ARRL which is at fault?
They were slow to pick up the ball on this issue, but still want to define a
standard and determine the rules. The folks that started eQSL are forward
looking and getting the job done. Double blind is not how it is done for
paper,
why should it be done that way electronically? In answer to "how would you
make
this work?"...we have a working model.
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron (kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Thu Apr 4 16:07:49 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
References: <4.1.20020404202805.0094deb0@popmail.libero.it>
Message-ID: <005101c1dc35$ecefcb00$5a2afea9@sbcglobal.net>
NOW if we could just get Paolo and the ASSOCIAZIONE RADIOAMATORI ITALIANI
(ARI) to reward the winner with a trip for two to Italy to pick-up their
trophy, kind of like they used to do for the Bermuda contest, then we would
really have something. Or at least the pleasure of sharing one of Paolo's
world-famous 2 kilogram pizzas! Over to you, Paolo.
Jim
N6TJ (on as ZD8Z in the upcoming EU
CW SPRINT April 20)
----- Original Message -----
From: "I2UIY" <i2uiy@cqww.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:35 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
>
> *********************************************
> * PLEASE NOTE THE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS FOR LOGS *
> *********************************************
>
> EU SPRINT 2002
> In 1994 the EU Sprint Gang (I2UIY, OK2FD, DL6RAI, and G4BUO) organized
the
> first European Sprint contests. For 2001 there have been some rule
changes,
> introducing an awards programme and bringing the Spring Sprints forward
in
> the calendar. You can find past scores and other information about
the
> sprints by visiting the official EU Sprint web site at this
address:
> <http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/>.
> The BIG news is that now we will award a certificate to the winners in
each
> country but this is not all. Three nice plaques will be awarded for the
top
> three scores from all four contests combined. Therefore, please red
circle
> the four EU Sprint saturdays on your calendar, we will be looking for
you
> starting April 13!
>
> EU SPRINT 2002
> The EU Sprint Gang hereby invites you to participate in the four
European
> Sprint Contests held in 2002.
>
> ENTRANTS: any licensed station may enter the Sprint. European stations
can
> work everybody; stations outside of Europe can work only European
stations.
> CATEGORIES: Single Operator ONLY. Only ONE signal may be aired at one
time.
> DATES:
> EU SPRINT Spring:
> * SSB: second Saturday in April - 13 April 2002 - managed by G4BUO
> * CW: third Saturday in April - 20 April 2002 - managed by I2UIY
> EU SPRINT Autumn:
> * SSB: first Saturday in October - 5 October 2002 - managed by I2UIY
> * CW: second Saturday in October - 12 October 2002 - managed by OK2FD
> TIME: from 15:00 UTC until 18:59 UTC.
> BANDS: 20, 40 and 80 metres only.
> Pilot frequencies are: SSB: 14.250, 7.050, 3.730. CW: 14.040, 7.025, 3.550
> EXCHANGE: all of the following data MUST BE PART OF THE EXCHANGE:
> a) your callsign,
> b) the other station's callsign,
> c) your serial number starting from 001 (RST not required),
> d) your name or nickname.
> Please note that BOTH stations MUST repeat BOTH callsigns DURING
the
> exchange.
> A valid exchange is: "OK2FD de I2UIY 118 Paolo" while "OK2FD 118 Paolo"
is
> NOT a valid exchange.
> SPECIAL QSY RULE: if any station initiates a call (by sending CQ,
QRZ?,
> etc.), he is permitted to work ONLY one station on the same frequency.
He
> must thereafter move AT LEAST 2 (two) kHz before he may call
another
> station or before he may solicit again (CQ, QRZ?, etc.) other calls.
> VALID CONTACTS: valid contacts are QSOs correctly logged and
confirmed.
> Each operator may use ONE and ONLY one name during the Sprint. If
the
> exchange is copied incorrectly, that operator will receive zero (0)
points.
> In case of miscopied callsigns, both stations will receive zero (0)
points
> for that QSO.
> SCORING: each valid QSO counts one 1 (one) point. The final score is
the
> total number of QSOs.
> AWARDS: Colorful certificates will be issued to the winners of each
Sprint,
> and to the leaders in each country. A special plaque will also be
awarded
> for the top three scores from all four contests combined. To be
eligible
> for this award an operator must enter at least three of the Sprints in
the
> year. Results will be forwarded as soon as possible to Leagues,
magazines
> and bulletins.
> LOGS: a single chronological log is required. Please send us your log
via
> email or on a floppy disk, if you use computer for logging. Use any of
the
> available software or send a plain ASCII file. A separate summary sheet
is
> also required. Please send us the right files: for DL2NBU software,
send
> yourcall.ASC; for N6TR software, send yourcall.DAT; for IK4EWK
software,
> send yourcall.DBF.
> If you want the latest release of the DL2NBU software, you can download it
> from the EU Sprint web site: <http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/>.
> Log files must be sent NO LATER than 15 days after the contest to:
> <eusprint@kkn.net>. The receipt of your electronic log will be confirmed.
> If you do not receive a confirmation within two days, try again or use the
> postal
> system.
> Disk logs, or paper entries must be posted NO LATER than 15 days after the
> contest to the appropriate address:
> * Spring SSB Sprint: Dave Lawley, G4BUO, Carramore, Coldharbour
Road,
> Penshurst, Kent, TN11 8EX, England, UK.
> * Spring CW Sprint: Paolo Cortese, I2UIY, P. O. Box 14, 27043
Broni
> (PV), Italy.
> * Autumn SSB Sprint: Paolo Cortese, I2UIY, P. O. Box 14, 27043
Broni
> (PV), Italy.
> * Autumn CW Sprint: Karel Karmasin, OK2FD, Gen. Svobody 636, 674
01
> Trebic, Czech Republic.
>
> Thanks in advance for your participation de: G4BUO, I2UIY & OK2FD.
>
> **************************************************
> * Download the FREE software: http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/ *
> **************************************************
>
>
>
>
> [ ] Paolo Cortese, I2UIY / IQ2A / NH7DX / OK8AFL
> [ ] Pizza & Pasta Contest Club
> [ ] CQWW Contest Committee
> [ ] Eu Sprint Manager
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>From kr1g at hotmail.com Fri Apr 5 03:10:06 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <F114eX2GOC9GBDYnV7j000166f5@hotmail.com>
Jim,
You are not quite right, although close. If the times are off or something
else is wrong (and you probably won't know what, just that you worked
P5/KR1G on 160 and the logs have been submitted and you don't have credit),
you would de *exactly* what you do today - send P5/KR1G's QSL manager,
KC1XX, a note saying "man I know I'm in the log can you double check
please?" And Matt may find a problem, like your call K1IR was logged
correctly on the cheap one-ply toilet paper KR1G used for logging because
his laptop ran erratically on P5 power but copied into the computer log
incorrectly.
As far as being too strict, blame me!! The biggest strength and reason for
the prestige of the DXCC program is its security - yes, you can scam it.
Print your own DL, and G and EA6 and PYOF cards and submit them and they'll
probably pass. Try that with a P5 or VU7 card and it gets *much* harder.
They do catch cheaters quite often I'm told. Any eQSL system MUST be at
least as secure! If its too secure and a too much of a hassle (the two go
hand in hand), it can be loosened later. We did consider possible (in some
cases probable) attacks and some of the "features" are designed especially
for them. Yes, I am Paranoid - its my job :)
73
Ted KR1G
>From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
>To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we can
>call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the point?
>If
>you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We submit
>the
>information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review
>their
>logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one, but
>I
>don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks are
>off
>by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line QSL -
>no
>QSO - and no way to track it.
>
>What do the DXCC Rules say?
>
>"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply,
>written
>proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be
>submitted
>directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . . Staff
>may
>accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
>
>and,
>
>"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call
>signs of
>both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and date,
>time
>and band."
>
>For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
>solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new double-blind
>confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic QSLing.
>
>It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure to
>get
>them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether printed
>or
>electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
>
>Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL DXCC
>policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
>accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
>
>73,
>
>Jim Idelson K1IR
>email k1ir@designet.com
>web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>
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>From k1ir at designet.com Thu Apr 4 23:00:33 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <ooxt6wp5y6ytfss.040420022300@designet-jsi>
>If you think this is a step in the wrong direction, then what would you have
them do? And how would you make it work? It's easy to criticize and assign
blame. You don't care for the solution? Then what would you do?<
No problem, Ron. I would implement the electronic QSL system in a manner that
mirrors the existing paper QSL system. That system would permit a QSL to be
issued unilaterally by one station and received by the other. This is what we
have today in the paper world - and while not perfect, it works. In fact, it
works so well that DXCC continues to be the most prestigious and popular award
program in amateur radio. If it were tainted by significant problems with QSL
credibility, it would not hold this lofty position after nearly 65 years.
I certainly agree with Ted - security needs to be built into the program, and
to me that includes making these unilateral QSLs theft- and copy-proof.
However, if there is a desire to increase the rigor in QSL requirements for
DXCC and other awards, such a decision and discussion should be taken up by the
DXCC team with significant input from those involved in the DXCC program. It
should not be implemented via an end-run by the QSL technologists.
The current approach might be great for the dedicated, web-savvy, hard-core
DXers among us; but it is not going to be particularly attractive to the
newcomers and casual operators that dominate our ranks. The requirement to
upload electronic logs in order to receive QSLs will filter out thousands of
potential users.
Instead, every ARRL member with an email address should automatically begin to
receive electronic QSLs. Totals for all awards should be tracked on-line for
every member. All this should be user-configurable at the ARRL website. This is
the way to drive acceptance and rapid adoption.
Want to ensure that confirmations of rare DX QSOs are harder to forge? Put
special requirements on certain DXpedition logs, extremely rare countries, etc.
But, please don't introduce log transcription or upload requirements just so we
can see the QSL for a 20M DL QSO.
The right way to do this is to start by web-ifying the process we have today,
learning from the initial experience, and finally, make changes that need to be
made - based on sound reasoning.
That's what I think.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Fri Apr 5 04:10:31 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>
Message-ID: <015f01c1dc4f$7378aca0$7a13be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Subich, K4IK" <k4ik@subich.com>
> Why are you saying the ARRL staff is always right?
The ARRL is obviously right on matters related to ARRL,
and DXCC is an ARRL property.
eQSL is also obviously right on matters related to their
program.
With all kind wishes,
de Hans, K0HB
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Fri Apr 5 04:37:24 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <F114eX2GOC9GBDYnV7j000166f5@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <017a01c1dc53$346f7300$7a13be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
> As far as being too strict, blame me!!
"Too strict" is transparent to the honest player.
With all kind wishes,
de Hans, K0HB
>From k0il at arrl.net Thu Apr 4 22:47:02 2002
From: k0il@arrl.net (Ed - K0iL)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Nebraska QSO Party
Message-ID: <01C1DC2A.A3E7D020.k0il@arrl.net>
The Heartland DX Association of Nebraska & Iowa
Invites You To
*** The Nebraska QSO Party ***
April 27th & 28th
1700 zulu Saturday to 1700 zulu Sunday
You just haven't partied until you've gone Cow Tipping at 2am Saturday
Nite!
For complete rules, details and paperwork go to:
http://www.qsl.net/hdxa/neqso/
Cow Tipping not required or even recommended unless you the right boots.
;^)
There are 93 counties in Nebraska but, just like years past, don't look for
all of them to be
active. We just don't have that many hams here, and even fewer contesters;
but you Sweepstakes guys already knew that. Well, what do you expect
trying to hold radio contests during "Big Red" Season every year. What are
you thinking?!
If you live near Nebraska and have mobile HF capabilities, come on over and
have some fun running counties. We even have one ham flying in from Oregon
who's planning a mobile expedition through some fairly rare counties this
NQP.
Special Stations to look out for:
---------------------------------------------
W7DRA - Mike from Oregon will be mobile. Tentative schedule is Boone,
Madison, Stanton, Cuming and Burt counties.
KG0KR - Beth. Another local mobile op who gives out several counties each
year.
K0AIR - Strategic Air Command (SAC) Memorial Club may be operating again
from
Douglas County's EOC underground.
NI0DX - We'll let you know if anyone decides to use the club call after our
April HDXA
Dinner.
With FQP & NQP going on at the same time, work all of the Nebraska &
Florida stations that you can then sort them afterward and send in all the
logs. Just Call "CQ N-F QP" or maybe F-N QP! Just work it! See you in
the Party.
73,
de ed -K0iL
HDXA V.P.
-.-. --.- .... .- -- ... -.. . -.- ----- .. .-.. -.-
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PO Box 375
Elkhorn, NE 68022-0375 k0il@qsl.net
Visit my web site: http://www.qsl.net/k0il
or HDXA's web site: http://www.qsl.net/hdxa
--... ...-- . ... --. .-.. - --- ..- --- -- ...-.- . .
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 4 21:19:37 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 04Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204050519.g355JbP05856@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 04Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
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NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
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USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(NI2W+VE3XAP 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
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USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
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USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
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USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
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USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
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USA SO(BR)AB LP
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
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USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
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USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
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USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
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USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
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USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
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USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
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USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
K5PI(@W5KFT) 918 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
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USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
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USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
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USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
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USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
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USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
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USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
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USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
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USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
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USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
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USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM3GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 4 21:20:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 04Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204050520.g355KnB05867@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 04Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
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Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
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Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
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Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM3GU(@FM5GU) 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
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Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
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Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20h 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
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Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
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Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
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Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 @12 78,210
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Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
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Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32.8 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
PA5AT 648 383 15 hr 512,454
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
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Non-USA SOAB QRP
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
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Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P 1384 599 36 2,479,860
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
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Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
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Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18.5 467,040 BCDX Club
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Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14.4 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
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Non-USA SOSB20 HP
9A4X 2475 916 35.6 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30,5 3,175,484
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB20 LP
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
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Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
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Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
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Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
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Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM3GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From tautvydas at achema.com Fri Apr 5 10:08:53 2002
From: tautvydas@achema.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tautvydas_Misi=FBnas?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
Message-ID: <006201c1dc79$2314e510$a800a8c0@tautvydas>
Jim,why You are so late with such brilliant idea?!
I've got my plaque by mail instead ...
CU this year!
Ted,LY2OX
>From va7bm at netzero.net Wed Apr 3 20:57:01 2002
From: va7bm@netzero.net (va7bm)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <003901c1db33$85fb0480$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <001c01c1dc8d$09b46000$7807fea9@address.com>
Yes that is a pity. I have no interest in receiving eQSL's (34 years chasing
DX I don't need many cards to increase my total. I've uploaded over 10'000
under 3 different calls and hope they are of some use to somebody. Oh well,
guess they will get it all sorted oneday.
73 Bob VA7BM ex VE7OR, VE7AZV and also licensed as KB7QEQ
----- Original Message -----
From: Sylvan Katz <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: CQ-Contest <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: April 03, 2002 9:18 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> So what do other people think about eQSL.cc change of policy?
>
> The main page of the web site now says:
>
> "We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of our
> InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have confirmed."
>
> So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and who by
> law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL out
of
> courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
>
> Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I have
> faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
> apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc -- now you
> are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It seems
> that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able to
> respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not even be
> able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Fri Apr 5 07:24:41 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
Message-ID: <003b01c1dca5$3e99b5a0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
>I just pulled all of my logs from eqsl and will not answer cards through
>that service anymore. It's a shame.
Might I suggest that instead of pulling your logs that you try the
following.
1. Post a message short message to CQ-Contest indicating why you oppose the
eQSL policy
(QSLing is part of the contest process).
2. Go to eQSL.cc and reject each eQSL that was sent to you
3. When the reject QSL pop-up box appears, check "Other problem listed
below"
4. and in the box put the URL of the message you posted to CQ-Contest.
You can get the URL of your posting by going to
http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/ and finding your posting.
This approach will allow us to use eQSL.cc to help rally a broader community
to encourage the eQSL.cc advisory board to reverse it decision and change a
good thing gone bad back to a valuable tool that can be used by us all and
not just DXCC award seekers.
Just a thought
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From k7qq at netzero.net Fri Apr 5 07:42:52 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <001001c1dcab$a5f06cc0$b13dfa43@computer>
Quacks
I find that in most cases where I have one that isn't correct its is simply
a bad time or band in the Log that I uploaded or his log. When U reject
just put in the time shown in Ur log and if he wants the card he can obtain
it that way. I don't even look at the ards that come thru. I respond when
I get SASE /$ I have 5 years of cards at the buro that I may get some day.
I load logs to e-QSL right after a contest so I don't have to confirm them.
The recient chang at e-QSL makes for a bigger job but no BFD. I still am
tring to work WAS.
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: "ted demopoulos" <kr1g@hotmail.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 03:10
Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> Jim,
>
> You are not quite right, although close. If the times are off or something
> else is wrong (and you probably won't know what, just that you worked
> P5/KR1G on 160 and the logs have been submitted and you don't have
credit),
> you would de *exactly* what you do today - send P5/KR1G's QSL manager,
> KC1XX, a note saying "man I know I'm in the log can you double check
> please?" And Matt may find a problem, like your call K1IR was logged
> correctly on the cheap one-ply toilet paper KR1G used for logging because
> his laptop ran erratically on P5 power but copied into the computer log
> incorrectly.
>
> As far as being too strict, blame me!! The biggest strength and reason for
> the prestige of the DXCC program is its security - yes, you can scam it.
> Print your own DL, and G and EA6 and PYOF cards and submit them and
they'll
> probably pass. Try that with a P5 or VU7 card and it gets *much* harder.
> They do catch cheaters quite often I'm told. Any eQSL system MUST be at
> least as secure! If its too secure and a too much of a hassle (the two go
> hand in hand), it can be loosened later. We did consider possible (in some
> cases probable) attacks and some of the "features" are designed especially
> for them. Yes, I am Paranoid - its my job :)
>
> 73
> Ted KR1G
>
> >From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
> >To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> >
> >Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we
can
> >call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the
point?
> >If
> >you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We submit
> >the
> >information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review
> >their
> >logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one,
but
> >I
> >don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks
are
> >off
> >by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line
QSL -
> >no
> >QSO - and no way to track it.
> >
> >What do the DXCC Rules say?
> >
> >"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply,
> >written
> >proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be
> >submitted
> >directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . . Staff
> >may
> >accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
> >
> >and,
> >
> >"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call
> >signs of
> >both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and date,
> >time
> >and band."
> >
> >For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
> >solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new double-blind
> >confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic QSLing.
> >
> >It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure to
> >get
> >them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether
printed
> >or
> >electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
> >
> >Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL
DXCC
> >policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
> >accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
> >
> >73,
> >
> >Jim Idelson K1IR
> >email k1ir@designet.com
> >web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >CQ-Contest mailing list
> >CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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>
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> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From w7zr at citlink.net Fri Apr 5 07:25:31 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1> <003b01c1dca5$3e99b5a0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <00cc01c1dcaf$0455bd80$2dd443d8@N1>
> >I just pulled all of my logs from eqsl and will not answer cards through
> >that service anymore. It's a shame.
>
> Might I suggest that instead of pulling your logs that you try the
> following.
>
> 1. Post a message short message to CQ-Contest indicating why you oppose
the
> eQSL policy
> (QSLing is part of the contest process).
> 2. Go to eQSL.cc and reject each eQSL that was sent to you
I had uploaded 110,000 QSOs. I will forward on the requests for eqsl
confirmations to you. Joking. But no joke...I don't need or want the
confirmations. I was trying to do it to help others.
> 3. When the reject QSL pop-up box appears, check "Other problem listed
> below"
> 4. and in the box put the URL of the message you posted to CQ-Contest.
>
> You can get the URL of your posting by going to
> http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/ and finding your posting.
>
> This approach will allow us to use eQSL.cc to help rally a broader
community
> to encourage the eQSL.cc advisory board to reverse it decision and change
a
> good thing gone bad back to a valuable tool that can be used by us all and
> not just DXCC award seekers.
>
> Just a thought
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> "A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
>
>
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Fri Apr 5 09:54:39 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The clock is ticking down to FQP 2K2
Message-ID: <007b01c1dcb1$d50e70a0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
(please forward this message to your local ham club e-mail reflectors-TNX!)
Yes, its Friday and the WPX SSB is past us....what next you say?
You Yankees, how did those fixed South "multiplier" antennas work for
you....DON'T MOVE EM JUST YET! Because:
It's only 22 days until FQP 2K2...
Over the past several years, the Florida Contest Group has turned out tens
of thousands of QSOs from hams just like you in a state QSO Party - The
Florida QSO Party.
The FQP has just about something for everybody including a handsome
certificate program, extensive plaque program (see below), college
competition, club competition and new this year:
An SWL Category!
If you are an SWL please contact me - we would like to get this information
distributed ASAP to the e-mail reflectors that SWL's frequent!
Florida hams take pride in airing their state - our larger fixed stations
can rack up over 2000 QSOs in the FQP - this is a 20 hour contest, so that
means they average over 100/hour. How can they do this - by your
participation!
We have successfully activated all of Florida's Counties since we took over
running the FQP several years ago - in fact several stations did it last
year! How do we do that - with mobilers roving the state...if you are a
mobiler/county activator we invite you to join us...each year several out of
state hams will come down to the Sunshine State and help us activate our
counties...last year there were several such stations who became plaque
winners.
Here are the FQP 2,001 Plaque winners, congratulations go to:
Sponsor Award Winner
N4PN Top Florida CW NO4S (K9OM op)
N4DL Top Florida Phone K4XS
N4BP Top Florida QRP NA4CW
K1TO Top Florida Mobile (Single Op) W5WMU
K4OJ Top Florida Mobile (Multi-Op) K5WA (+N6MU)
AB4RL Top Florida Score K4FQP (K5KG op)
K4OJ Most QSO's Florida Single Operator K4XS
N4PK Top Florida Club Station Score W4MLB
QCWA Chapter 62 Top Novice/Technician No Entries
KD4RWN Top University Non-Florida W6YX
Friendship ARC Top University Florida K4UCF
W4JN Top Non-Florida CW K3TW
K4XS Top Non-Florida Phone N?WY
NF4A Top Non-Florida Mixed Mode W8MJ
NA4CW Top Non-Florida QRP K3TW
N4TO Top European CW M?SDX
WD4AHZ Top Canadian Mixed Mode VE1OP
NF4A Top DX Mixed Mode LY3BA
K5KG 1st station to work all Counties in FQP K3WW
Have you tried the FQP?
It is a fun contest with a simple exchange - Floridians send a signal report
and a county (full county abbreviation list on the FQP web page/URL
below)...Out of Florida stations send a signal report and their
state/province or country - again consult the URL below....
Floridians if you can participate please check in to the web page ASAP and
click on the link for county activation/NS4W, our county coordinator....let
him know what county or counties you can activate.. Once we have a
commitment for a county the Florida map on the opening page of the website
will change color from Green to Orange for that county...over the next few
weeks you will see the map become more and more orange and with the help of
other Floridians we will make it all Orange once again! Please check in
ASAP so the mobile teams can plan their routes to ensure all FL counties
will be well represented!
There are Florida county as well as out of state records posted on the FQP
website - check them out - as well as all the other valuable info on the
FQP. The FQP website is a true asset - it even contains links to logging
software that supports the FQP!
Spend a few minutes surfing the website, bookmark it and don't forget:
Its only 22 days until the 2,002 - be there!
Check out the website:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp/index.html
73/GL
Jim, K4OJ
K4FCG
The Florida Contest Group...thanks to you were running 'em!
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Apr 5 11:14:04 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <00cc01c1dcaf$0455bd80$2dd443d8@N1>
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
<003b01c1dca5$3e99b5a0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020405111207.05278560@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 07:25 AM 4/5/02 -0700, Richard Zalewski wrote:
>...
>I had uploaded 110,000 QSOs. I will forward on the requests for eqsl
>confirmations to you. Joking. But no joke...I don't need or want the
>confirmations. I was trying to do it to help others.
I don't get it -- if the eQSLs aren't accepted for DXCC, it's hard to
understand why it's helpful to upload your logs there. I'm waiting for
LotW to become operational, because at least we know that those credits
will be accepted. I hope that this project is not turning into another FAA
air traffic control computer upgrade!
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Fri Apr 5 08:16:32 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (bob.wruble@verizon.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1> <003b01c1dca5$3e99b5a0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <002f01c1dcbd$40bc3390$3ec13d04@bobhome>
i am/was on their stupid advisory board and was never
consulted or asked about their abrupt policy change!
they had a good thing going but this latest move will likely
remove me as a customer. i wrote them a private email a few
days ago re this move but no response so far!
de w7gg/ai7b/ww7or
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sylvan Katz" <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>; "Ron Notarius WN3VAW"
<wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> >I just pulled all of my logs from eqsl and will not answer cards through
> >that service anymore. It's a shame.
>
> Might I suggest that instead of pulling your logs that you try the
> following.
>
> 1. Post a message short message to CQ-Contest indicating why you oppose
the
> eQSL policy
> (QSLing is part of the contest process).
> 2. Go to eQSL.cc and reject each eQSL that was sent to you
> 3. When the reject QSL pop-up box appears, check "Other problem listed
> below"
> 4. and in the box put the URL of the message you posted to CQ-Contest.
>
> You can get the URL of your posting by going to
> http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/ and finding your posting.
>
> This approach will allow us to use eQSL.cc to help rally a broader
community
> to encourage the eQSL.cc advisory board to reverse it decision and change
a
> good thing gone bad back to a valuable tool that can be used by us all and
> not just DXCC award seekers.
>
> Just a thought
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> "A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Fri Apr 5 08:25:27 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (bob.wruble@verizon.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <001001c1dcab$a5f06cc0$b13dfa43@computer>
Message-ID: <003801c1dcbe$7f29d730$3ec13d04@bobhome>
forcing u to upload all of ur logs is a stupid move in my opinion
becuz that sends a endless stream of eqsls to stations that
have no interest in getting them .... like me!
why do i need 20 qsls from k7qq each contest season??
or from other domestic contest stns??
i have not uploaded any of my annual 30k plus contest
qsos to eqsl for this very reason ....... i saw eqsl as a great tool to
respond to the constant drone of incoming qsl requests
that follow/plague contesters ........
i want to support the paper chasers in the hobby in exchage for their wking
me in the contests ......... but now it looks like this
can't be done without uploading the logs?
lifes a bitch and then u die!
de w7gg/ai7b/ww7or
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
To: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:42 PM
Subject: Fw: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> Quacks
> I find that in most cases where I have one that isn't correct its is
simply
> a bad time or band in the Log that I uploaded or his log. When U reject
> just put in the time shown in Ur log and if he wants the card he can
obtain
> it that way. I don't even look at the ards that come thru. I respond
when
> I get SASE /$ I have 5 years of cards at the buro that I may get some
day.
> I load logs to e-QSL right after a contest so I don't have to confirm
them.
> The recient chang at e-QSL makes for a bigger job but no BFD. I still am
> tring to work WAS.
>
> Quack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ted demopoulos" <kr1g@hotmail.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 03:10
> Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> > Jim,
> >
> > You are not quite right, although close. If the times are off or
something
> > else is wrong (and you probably won't know what, just that you worked
> > P5/KR1G on 160 and the logs have been submitted and you don't have
> credit),
> > you would de *exactly* what you do today - send P5/KR1G's QSL manager,
> > KC1XX, a note saying "man I know I'm in the log can you double check
> > please?" And Matt may find a problem, like your call K1IR was logged
> > correctly on the cheap one-ply toilet paper KR1G used for logging
because
> > his laptop ran erratically on P5 power but copied into the computer log
> > incorrectly.
> >
> > As far as being too strict, blame me!! The biggest strength and reason
for
> > the prestige of the DXCC program is its security - yes, you can scam it.
> > Print your own DL, and G and EA6 and PYOF cards and submit them and
> they'll
> > probably pass. Try that with a P5 or VU7 card and it gets *much* harder.
> > They do catch cheaters quite often I'm told. Any eQSL system MUST be at
> > least as secure! If its too secure and a too much of a hassle (the two
go
> > hand in hand), it can be loosened later. We did consider possible (in
some
> > cases probable) attacks and some of the "features" are designed
especially
> > for them. Yes, I am Paranoid - its my job :)
> >
> > 73
> > Ted KR1G
> >
> > >From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
> > >To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> > >
> > >Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we
> can
> > >call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the
> point?
> > >If
> > >you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We
submit
> > >the
> > >information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review
> > >their
> > >logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one,
> but
> > >I
> > >don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks
> are
> > >off
> > >by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line
> QSL -
> > >no
> > >QSO - and no way to track it.
> > >
> > >What do the DXCC Rules say?
> > >
> > >"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply,
> > >written
> > >proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be
> > >submitted
> > >directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . .
Staff
> > >may
> > >accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
> > >
> > >and,
> > >
> > >"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call
> > >signs of
> > >both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and
date,
> > >time
> > >and band."
> > >
> > >For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
> > >solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new
double-blind
> > >confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic
QSLing.
> > >
> > >It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure
to
> > >get
> > >them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether
> printed
> > >or
> > >electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
> > >
> > >Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL
> DXCC
> > >policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
> > >accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
> > >
> > >73,
> > >
> > >Jim Idelson K1IR
> > >email k1ir@designet.com
> > >web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
> > >
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>From yt3t at absolutok.net Fri Apr 5 20:17:28 2002
From: yt3t@absolutok.net (Kele YT3T)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL problem option - ALL INCLUSIVE
References: <200204050401.g35413Al001366@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000001c1dcd0$e5ab4680$9de45d50@pentium>
For those who do not have time to go through all the troubles of having
their cards received at other end:
NEW, ALL INCLUSIVE
Outgoing QSL Bureau located in Belgrade, Serbia, and managed by YU1AO and
YT1WW is offering the following service:
(1) Full color prints, excellent quality, low prices. Simple one or two
color prints available too. Nothing printed unless you authorize it.
(2) Once printed, the cards will be filled according to your data submitted
by email, FOR FREE (Yes, we/ve done it already for SKY CC Team members).
(3) Once filled, the cards will be shipped to ww bureaus and managers at
rates equal to those at your QTH ($8 for 400 cards in USA?)
YT1WW is managing YU QSL bureau for more than 20 years.
YU1AO is designing and printing (nice) cards for more than 20 years, and
some
of you like them.
Isn't this cheap?
Time saving, ink saving, and with cheaper cards even money saving.
73
Kele
YU1AO, YT3T, N2KAB
email to yt3t@absolutok.net
(QSLing is excellent marketing strategy for your next contest score)
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Fri Apr 5 15:07:33 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] qsl's
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEJDDEAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
An interesting forum, to discuss ARRL's impact on
eQSL policy.
This is a real conundrum; my reason for using
eQSL was simplicity of providing courtesy responses
to folks I'd worked.
While I DO log dx, and have 300+ worked, I have zero
confirmed. Well...ok, I threw out 250 or so, from my
old address, and have worked over 300 since moving to
VT....and yes, over a hundred HAVE sent paper cards since
then....but WHO CARES?
It's not about pieces of paper, it's about people.
I like swapping .jpg's with folks I work, and knowing
a bit more about them, WHILE I work them (thank you,
qrz.com).
Am I simply off in a corner, here? The ARRL program is
meaningless to me. eQSL's utility has been reduced
substantially since the change.
Fie on the bloody lot of them. What shall we do next?
Jim Jarvis
N2EA
>From k1mk at arrl.net Fri Apr 5 12:22:49 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID:
<20020405122256.5465.c002-h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Jim,
Jim Idelson wrote:
> However, if there is a desire to increase the rigor in QSL
requirements for
> DXCC and other awards, such a decision and discussion should be taken
up by the
> DXCC team with significant input from those involved in the DXCC
program. It
> should not be implemented via an end-run by the QSL technologists.
That rigor would appear to already be there, at least in public
statements if not enforcement.
The DXCC Program has characterized preemptive QSLing even with paper
cards as a "poor QSLing practice" that should be discouraged; at least
when it's practiced by rare DX stations.
Now, it doesn't seem to be of much concern that individual contesters
from "common" entities preemptively send out multiple thousands of
unsolicited cards via the bureau annually. A very low percentage of
those cards are likely to ever make their way back in an appliction to
the DXCC Desk (or field checking).
Also, with paper cards the fact that the first of two cards exchanged is
an unsolicited confirmation doesn't seem to matter. The initial card in
an exchange of QSLs is typically not the one with which the DXCC Desk is
concerned, particularly at the higher achievement levels.
Likewise, responding to incoming cards without consulting a log is
another example of what was described as "poor QSLing practice". It
might be seen as a courtesy or convienience when practiced between
stations in non-rare entities, but if it became known that a station
from a "rare" entity sent out cards without checking a log or didn't
keep a log, DXCC credit for contacts with that station might well be
denied.
Yes, those would seem to be very much of a double-standard; which are
not internally self-consistent. If DXCC has a more rigorous set of
self-imposed standards (or suggested practices) for how QSLs from "rare
DX" should be generated which differ from the typical practices employed
by us "commoners", then it should not be that much of a surprise that a
single, uniform protocol enforced by LoTW would be based upon the
higher, more rigorous standards and suggested practices of the DXCC
Program rather that emulating the practices in common use.
Remember LoTW is firstly a front-end for DXCC and other ARRL awards
programs. It satifies the requirements needed to perform those functions
very well. But it is not necessarily the best or most general model for
how to define and implement an open standard for portable, forge-proof
electronic confirmations.
> The current approach might be great for the dedicated, web-savvy,
hard-core
> DXers among us; but it is not going to be particularly attractive to
the
> newcomers and casual operators that dominate our ranks. The
requirement to
> upload electronic logs in order to receive QSLs will filter out
thousands of
> potential users.
The current approach would not prevent a casual user from sending QSO
information for a single contact, just like sending an individual card.
Could easily do that from a web form: type in your QSO data, click send.
Anyone can create their own version of what they think this UI should
look like because the upload is by means of e-mail or http. And the
upload could even go via a third-party since it does not have to take
place over a validated or otherwise secured connection.
Unless there is a change in philosophy what is unlikely to happen is to
be told "You've Got QSL" and be provided with the full QSO details.
> Want to ensure that confirmations of rare DX QSOs are harder to forge?
Put
> special requirements on certain DXpedition logs, extremely rare
countries, etc.
How about only requiring the user submit double-blind matching QSLs for
new band/mode countries? Might work if LoTW were only intended to be
used for DXCC. It's not.
Plans are to expand LoTW to include the other ARRL awards programs, so
you'd need to also exclude viewing of unsolicited, unmatched QSLs from
new states, grids, etc. Over the longer term there is a consideration of
marketing LoTW data or awards checking services to outside customers.
Can't compromise the integerity and potential marketability of the
database, so the genie can never be let of the bottle.
This whole issue of double-blind originates with the scenario that by
going to electronic confirmations will make the QSLing process so easy
and inexpenisve that preemptive QSLing will become the norm. Why go
through the trouble of checking each card, just upload the logs? It
helps out the other guy, right?
As a result, the thinking goes, many of the "undeserving" will start
receiving unsolicited confirmations for contacts they didn't make
because of the inevitable busted call signs. Remember those? This is
CQ-Contest after all. Some of the weaker individuals out there might be
tempted to submit those unearned confirmations for award credit.
It can happen just as easily with a bureau card despite preemptive
QSLing having been labeled a "poor" practice. It doesn't happen very
often only because most of the rarer DX don't send out a card for every
contact via the bureau; yes, some do.
As I recall, one goal of LoTW was to come up with a process for
electronic conformations that was "more secure" than paper QSLs. Going
double-blind closes off giving out credit for a busted call. Just like
contest log checking.
It's yet another attempting to have a machine enforce ethical behavior.
It's a people problem. Other than personal integrity, there is nothing
to stop two individuals from consipiring to falsify a contact, under the
present system or any future system. But the machine can stop an
individual from fraudulently taking advantage of some else's error. Is
it worth it the inconvience?
Anyone got a different solution?
> But, please don't introduce log transcription or upload requirements
just so we
> can see the QSL for a 20M DL QSO.
Well, I guess we're not supposed to look at the unsolicited DL cards
that arrive via the bureau, either. :-(
73,
Mike K1MK
k1mk@alum.mit.edu
Michael Keane K1MK
k1mk@arrl.net
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Fri Apr 5 20:27:52 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New Contesting Radio?
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar> <00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
Message-ID: <001c01c1dcd7$fe2fa820$0215be3f@bigguy>
>From http://www.tentec.com/TT565.htm
"Instant Two Radio Mode" allows ORION to instantly QSY between two different
bands. Two linear amplifiers, two sets of accessory devices via dual band data
outputs and two antennas can optionally be connected to ORION to allow
instantaneous QSY.
Unfortunately is still "looks like a TenTec"
73, de Hans, K0HB
>From jtolbert at gremlan.org Fri Apr 5 19:18:18 2002
From: jtolbert@gremlan.org (Jamie WW3S)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2 problems I see with eQSL
Message-ID: <011501c1dd00$8e341140$0500000a@bedroom>
I have not been very active with eQSL but had over 600 qsls in my in-box so
I just uploaded my log (about 38,000 qsos in ADIF) to eQSL and surprisingly
only a small amount "matched" what was in my inbox. This means they must be
entered manually to confirm. Two problems I saw was a slight mis-match in
time. EX: I logged at 1923 but other station logged at 1924, this gets
bounced. Bigger problem was they have the contest exchange in the exchanged
field and apparently my programs wont export that so the card in my in-box
displays 599 513 where mine just has 599; again this gets bounced. I'd love
to be able to confirm these 500+ qsos without manually searching the log and
then adding it to my eQSL log but I just don't have the time. You would
think there would be a +/- parameter that could be set so if within "X"
minutes do an auto-confirm.....
73
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Apr 5 19:04:18 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL DX SSB - DX Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020405190201.00aabc00@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 ARRL DX SSB - DX Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: April 2, 2002
E-mail logs to: DXPhone@arrl.org
Mail logs to:
DX Phone Contest
ARRL
225 Main St.
Newington, CT 06111
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX M/2 HP
9A7A 6360 289 5,514,120 CROATIAN CONTEST CLU
HG6N 6028 267 4,828,428
DL6RAI 5459 270 48 4,421,790 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
OA4O 5400 261 4,228,200 RADIO CLUB PERUANO
LY7Z 5119 266 4,000,000 LITHUANIAN DX GROUP
YT9X @YU1AAX 4910 253 3,726,690 YU CONTEST CLUB
EA5DFV 4598 244 44 3,365,736
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX M/M LP
V26S 5036 299 34 4,517,292 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX M/M HP
9A1A 8438 306 48 7,746,084 CROATIAN CONTEST CLU
EA8ZS 5623 303 48 5,111,307 GALDAR CONTEST TEAM
LT1F 4536 241 48 3,270,129 THE BAD POWER
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX M/S LP
KH6/W2EDD @KH6 2470 242 1,793,220
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX M/S HP
VP5B 7746 338 48 7,854,444 TOP OF EUROPE CONTES
FY5KE 7665 328 7,542,360
PJ4G 6122 322 48 5,913,852 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
TM5C 6265 284 5,337,780
6D2YFM 5734 318 48 5,329,004
CT9M 4865 282 48 4,115,790 RHEIN RUHR DX ASSOCI
OM0M 4657 259 3,618,489
OM7M 4301 278 48 3,587,034 LBCC
OE2S 4290 269 40 3,462,030 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
IQ4T 3740 251 48 2,816,220 ROMAGNA CONTEST CLUB
PW0T 4156 225 48 2,805,300 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
SN8V @SP8YMM 3548 240 43 2,554,560
LU1NF 3140 214 45 2,015,880
PI4TUE 2696 223 1,803,624
LA2Z 2675 223 1,789,575
IO4T 2432 241 1,758,336
VK4UC 2369 221 40 1,569,984 WWDXC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOAB QRP
TI5N (W8QZA) 1590 200 40 954,000
F5NOD 519 134 15 208,638
LR7E (LU3DR) 209 88 38 55,176
S54AA 167 84 42,084 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
SM6DER 187 61 9 34,221 HISINGENS RADIOKLUBB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOAB LP
XE2AUB 1700 161 30 821,100
SV1DPI 1467 176 774,576
KL7AC 1449 172 20 747,684
EA6DD 1240 193 717,960
FS/KT8X 1228 162 13 596,808
V51/SP6IXF 845 111 8 281,385 SPDXCLUB
RG9O (RZ9OU) 649 133 258,552
F8AAN 601 124 16 222,084
RD4M (UA4LU) 369 99 109,593
SP1EK 267 89 71,289 SPCC
VA3PC 660 107 70,620
JE1TSD 153 438 32,412
SP8GNF 118 66 23,364
MW5EPA 165 76 5 12,540 CONTEST CAMBRIA
T97M 77 34 7,854 SARAJEVO CONTEST GRO
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOAB HP
8P5A (W2SC) 8211 336 48 8,280,000 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
TI5/VE7CC (VE7 5639 328 40 5,548,776
WP2Z (N2TK) 5190 299 35 4,655,430 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
SN2B (SP2FAX) 5033 266 4,016,334
M6T (G4PIQ) 4515 283 3,830,688 MARTLESHAM DX & CG
NH7A 4541 280 3,814,440
GM4YXI 3915 282 34 3,312,090 NORTH OF SCOTLAND CO
G4BUO 4418 246 33 3,260,484 CHILTERN DX CLUB
HI3/K1CX (KC1X 3515 306 18 3,226,770 ECC
GM7V (GM3WOJ) 3148 249 37 2,351,556 NORTH OF SCOTLAND CG
OE1EMS 3008 228 30 2,057,472
7S2E (SM2DMU) 2660 228 40 1,819,440 TOP OF EUROPE CONTES
RA3AJ 2627 212 1,670,772
RK4FF 1776 194 1,033,050
ZL1ANJ 1036 171 30 531,468
IK4AUY 963 161 11 465,129 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
VK2CZ 1021 125 20 382,875
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOAB(A) LP
7L4IOU 867 162 418,446
9A7P (9A6XX) 627 106 199,386 WORLDWIDE YOUNG CONT
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOAB(A) HP
DK8ZB 2793 282 37 2,362,878 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOSB/10 QRP
SP5XMU 220 46 32 30,360
T91ENS 10 8 240 SARAJEVO CONTEST GRO
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOSB/10 LP
PY2XAT 1799 60 323,820 TUPY DX GROUP
G0AEV 1438 59 254,526
PY2YU 1425 59 252,225
EA7GTF 1393 59 246,561
P40B (P43P) 1313 58 8 228,288 ARUBA AMATEUR RADIO
SP3KEY (SP3DWQ 1115 59 16 197,335
KH6GMP 1078 56 48 181,104 HAWAII DX ASSOCIATIO
S58M 822 59 144,000 SCC
XE1BEF 727 57 124,317
IQ2C (IK2JUB) 623 59 11 110,271 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
S57LWG @S57IIO 607 55 100,000
M0GTO 226 45 8 30,375
YU1ACS (4N1EA) 178 42 20 22,428 YU CONTEST CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOSB/10 HP
ZX5J 3311 61 605,913 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
PJ2K (K6RO) 3179 60 28 572,220 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
ZF2AH (W6VNR) 2914 59 29 515,778
NP3X (KP4WW) 2689 60 484,020 COAMO CONTEST CLUB
9A5Y (9A3LG) 2406 59 425,862
DL1IAO @DL0WW 2432 58 18 423,168 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
DF9ZP 2383 59 421,791 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
S50C (S55OO) 2295 59 406,215 CCS CONTEST CLUB SLO
S50K 2207 60 18 397,260 SCC
YT0A (YT3T) 2244 59 17 397,011
DF3KV 2132 60 19 383,760 RHEIN RUHR DX ASSOCI
IK4MHB 2002 60 360,360 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
S51TA 1814 59 321,078 CCS-CONTEST CLUB SLO
EA3QP 1706 61 15 312,198
UU7J (UT5UT) 1372 59 241,428 CRIMEAN CONTEST CLUB
RZ3AA 1163 60 12 209,340
OM5AW 2850 58 165,300
UA9YAB 566 54 13 91,692
RU9WX 360 49 52,920 BASHKIRIAN DX CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOSB/15 LP
TI7/N4MO (N4MO 1700 59 25 300,900 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
V31MF 1512 60 272,160
PY2NDX 1520 59 269,040
ZV2V (PY2LED) 1252 60 225,360 TUPY DX GROUP
S57IIO 1161 59 205,497
LZ9W (LZ2HM) 1006 59 178,062 LZDXF
SP4DEU 718 58 124,932
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOSB/15 HP
OH6NIO 1741 145 757,335
P40A (KK9A) 3550 59 628,350 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
OK1RI 2481 61 454,023
KL7RA 2661 58 22 447,354
9A1P 2282 59 24 403,914 WORLDWIDE YOUNG CONT
4O6A (Z32AF) 2194 59 388,338 SKY CONTEST CLUB
OH6AC (OH6CS) 2005 61 366,915 CONTEST CLUB OF FINL
OE8SKQ 2002 6012 354,708
ES5RW 1915 59 20 338,955 TARTU CONTEST TEAM
S53MM @S51TA 1779 59 314,883 CCS-CONTEST CLUB SLO
EA3IN 1583 59 280,191
S52ZW 1579 279,483 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
LY6A (LY2BM) 1504 59 266,031
OK1CF 1224 59 216,648
J37K (AC8G) 1170 59 8 207,090
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOSB/160 HP
HA5JI 65 17 3,315
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOSB/20 LP
SM0W (SM0WKA) 1542 59 272,934 CONTEST CLUB OF FINL
IK8UND 607 54 98,334
ZC4DW 63 27 3 5,103 CHILTERN DX CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOSB/20 HP
PY3FOX 193 836 19,383,600 ARACAURIA DX GROUP
OH4A (OH6LI) 2550 62 40 470,000 CONTEST CLUB OF FINL
OH8L (OH8LQ) 2359 62 423,894 CONTEST CLUB OF FINL
S51CK 1266 60 227,880 SCC
PY3FOX 1114 58 193,836 ARACAURIA DX GROUP
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOSB/40 HP
GW7X (GW4BLE) 1156 58 25 201,144 CONTEST CAMBRIA
BA4RF 58 27 4,698
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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DX SOSB/80 LP
S57MSU 28 12 1,008
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DX SOSB/80 HP
YV5OHW 703 57 24 120,213
OT2T (ON4UN) 490 42 61,740
S59CAB (S53CC) 409 42 51,534
UZ7U (UT3UA) 202 29 17,574
YT6A 418 37 SKY CONTEST CLUB
Teams:
9A7A 9A8A, 9A7V, 9A6DM, 9A4RX, 9A4PA, 9A4BT, 9A3TR,
9A3OS, 9A2ME
HG6N HA3OV HA6DX HA6ND HA6NF HA6NQ HA6NY HA6PX
DL6RAI DL1MGB, DL2NBU, DL4RDJ, DL6RAI AND DJ5CL
OA4O OA4EI, OA4AHW, OA4BHY, OA4CRK, OA4DII, OA4DIX,
OA4DJW, OA4DKC, OA4DMR (OH0XX), DL1NL
LY7Z LY1DS, LY2TA, LY3MM
YT9X @YU1AAX YT1RU, YT1RA, YZ1KA, YU1JW, YU1ZZ, MARKO
EA5DFV EA5ON EA5CLH EC5CPL EA5DFV
V26S N2WKS KD3TB W3CF
9A1A N4PN, NF4A, 9A5W, 9A3GW, 9A6A, 9A6D, 9A7R,
9A5K, 9A8W, 9A9A
EA8ZS EA8ZS AND GALDAR CONTEST TEAM
LT1F LU1FAM, LU1FGE, LU1FT, LU1FD, LU1FKR, LU3FP,
LU3FZW, LU5FHM, LU6FQD, LU8FOX, LU2FV
KH6/W2EDD @KH AD4J, K3ZM, W4GKA
VP5B K4ISV, K4CN
FY5KE F1HAR F5MZN F6FVY FY5FU FY5FY F5HRY
PJ4G K2NG, K2TW, NO2R
TM5C F6CTT - F5MUX - F5NLY - F5VCO - F4SGU
CT9M CT3BD, CT3DL, CT3EE, CT3EN, CT3HK, CT3IA,
CT3IQ, CT3KU
OM0M OM3BH, OM3CHL, OM8DX, OM8AW
OM7M OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OE2S OE2GEN, OE2LCM, OE2MON, OE2VEL
IQ4T I4IFL I4MNY IK4HVR IK4MGP IK4MGX IK4SXJ IK4WMH
PW0T PY7ZZ, PY7XC, PY5CC, PY5HSD, PT7BZ, PY1RO,
PY0FF, N6FF, PY7ZY
SN8V @SP8YMM SP8GQU, SP8ARY, SP8GWI, SP8LBK, SP8NCF, SQ8BGJ
LU1NF LU1NDC, LU2NI & LU8NA
PI4TUE PA3EZL PE1PRG
LA2Z LA3BO, LA6MV
IO4T IK4RQJ, IK4VET, IK4XCL, IK4ZHH, IK4ALM, IZ4DIJ
VK4UC VK4UC;NO7T
V31MF V31MF/KC5ZT
K4JA K4JA, K4MA, K9JY, KE9I, W3BP, KG9X
KI1G KI1G, K1NG, WF1B,KS1J,K1JN,K1SD,KB1LN
KR1G WA1S NR1DX W1AAX WC1M KR1G
N4TO K1TO, N4DL, N4TO, T93M, T93Y
K1IR AA1AA, K1EP, K1IR, KM2P, W1VE
KB1H KB1H, NB1U, N1XS, K1EBY, AA1CE, KB1DFB, W1TJL,
W3TB, KE1LI
W5KFT W5KFT, W6PH, K5TSQ, K5PI, W5TA, W5JEN, W5TD
VE6SV VE5FN VA6EA VE6AKY VE6EZ VE6NAP VE6RFM VE6SV
K2RD WA1FCN W1CU K2WR K2RD
NK7U NK7U, K7ZO, W7ZRC, WA7LT, KK7A, K7MK
N5TW WM5R NA4M KM5TY N5DUW WS4G W5TD N5TW
VE1JF VE1JF, VE1AI, VE1AMJ, VE1DHD, VE1HC, VE1MOO
AA5NT N3BUO, KK7JS, WD5FLK, N1CC, N5NJ, AA5NT,
KC5LOS, KC5SDY, W5GDC
KK1L KK1L, K1KD, W1SJ, W1DEC, AA1SU, K1WEY, N1ZUK,
K1HD, KC1WH
VE7SCC VE7HHS VA7DX
N3BB W5JEN, W5RQA, W5TA, WR5Q, KD5QJV, N3BB
KC1XX K1GQ W1FV AD1C HC1OT K6AW W1MD W2RQ K1XX
K9NS AA9D,K9DX,K9HMB,K9NO,K9PPY,K9PW,K9QVB,K9RO,
K9RS,KO9A,KS9W,W9RM,WE9V.
W2FU W2FU, K2UA, N2MG, K2AXX, K2DB, K2TER, K1PY
W1FJ @W1KM NB1B, W1KM, N1TB, N1NK, W1NA, W1FJ
N2RM N2RM N2NC WM2H
W3PP W3PP N6ZO K3FT N3KW W2GJ KB3FEE W3PAR N3PT KW3Z
K3ANS K3ANS, N3PUR, N3MX, KB3CBO, K3YD, W3ZL, KC3WX,
W0RSJ
K3NM K3IPK,K3ZV,LU9AY,K3NM
N6RO K3EST, K6RC, K6TA, K6KO, KI7WX, W6SR, N6BV,
N6SNO, N6RO
W4MYA N4DEN, N4EHJ, K4KJL,K4KML,K4WMA,KF4QQY,W4HZ,
W4MYA,WK4Y
W8ZA K3DNE, K8OQL, ND3A, N8II, W8ZA
W2CG W2CG, W2EN, W2NO, K2WJ
K3OO @K3OOO K3OO & K3OOO
K3CT @K3II K3CT, K3II
NY4T NY4T N4LKE W1ADE KR4FO KG4RDF KG4MHK
K8AZ K8AZ, K8BL, K8NZ, ND8L, W8KIC, WB8K, WT8C
W0GU @N2IC N2IC,NA5S,K0KR
W4MR @AA4NC AA4NC, N4YDU, K4HA
K8CC K8CC, K8GL, KE8OC
K5NZ W5BA , K5GA , K5NZ
K0DU K0CL, N0ZA, KC0DKX,K0UK
K2XR K2XR+K2OWR+WB2WIK
NE3F KS3F K3ATO NT3V NG3Z KB3GWY
K5NA K5NA, K5DU, KI5DR, N5ZC, K2UR, NT5C
N5YA N5YA, WX0B, N5KR, K5MR, K5WO, KR5F
K2KQ K2KQ, W2WB
N1MM N1MM, N1IXF
VA3RU VE3NZ VA3RU
KR0B KR0B,NOBKL,KS0T,N0RA,KJ0B,K0KP,KB0KQA
W0ZT W0ZT, K0SR, K0XN
K0TV KB1PZ W1ES NF1A K0TV
N1LN W5MF, K7LEX, W5MJS, N1LN
VE3HG VE3HG, VE3RZ, VA3GGF, VA3EC
W6EEN W6EEN, K6XC, W6AQ, W6ORD
K0FJ K0FJ K0BJ KC0JAO
W3LJ W3IDT K3NCO KA3UBJ W3LJ
K9ES K9ES, AD4ES
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Apr 5 19:04:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL DX SSB - NA Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020405190153.00aa85e0@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 ARRL DX SSB - NA Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: April 2, 2002
E-mail logs to: DXPhone@arrl.org
Mail logs to:
DX Phone Contest
ARRL
225 Main St.
Newington, CT 06111
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA M/2 HP
K4JA 5767 610 48 10,551,780 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
KI1G 5378 576 48 9,291,456 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
KR1G 4964 519 48 7,702,479 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N4TO 4595 537 48 7,397,712 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
K1IR 4393 522 44 6,868,476 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
KB1H 3789 530 6,000,660 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W5KFT 3992 478 48 5,721,660 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
VE6SV 4089 445 5,429,445
K2RD 3580 498 46 5,288,760 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NK7U 3795 434 48 4,916,352
N5TW 3347 441 48 4,343,409 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
VE1JF 3270 435 38 4,267,350
AA5NT 3201 445 4,199,910 NORTH TEXAS CONTEST
KK1L 2487 425 40 3,165,825 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
VE7SCC 1569 334 36 1,572,138 COQUITLAM AMATEUR RA
N3BB 933 291 27 814,509 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA M/M HP
W3LPL 8728 688 17,967,120
KC1XX 8535 672 17,037,216
K9NS 8189 636 48 15,609,348 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
W2FU 6364 595 48 11,359,740 ROCHESTER (NY) DX AS
W1FJ @W1KM 5595 590 9,892,530 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N2RM 5260 565 48 8,902,140 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W3PP 5161 550 48 8,515,650 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3ANS 4562 560 48 7,627,200 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3NM 4742 532 45 7,563,444 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N6RO 4803 497 48 7,150,836 RIVER CITY CONTESTER
W4MYA 4211 568 45 7,069,096 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W8ZA 3441 497 48 5,130,531 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W2CG 2489 464 3,477,216 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3OO @K3OOO 1892 434 24 2,463,385 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3CT @K3II 1642 339 25 1,669,914 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA M/S LP
NY4T 982 284 44 835,812 TENNESSEE CONTEST GR
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA M/S HP
K8AZ 3137 516 48 4,800,000 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
W0GU @N2IC 3339 458 48 4,586,412 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
W4MR @AA4NC 3250 466 4,543,500 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
K8CC 3018 476 48 4,309,704 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
K5NZ 2871 480 48 4,132,800
K0DU 3289 393 47 3,873,015 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
K2XR 2752 468 48 3,859,596 SCORE!
NE3F 2581 470 3,633,570
K5NA 2585 450 3,439,800 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
N5YA 2579 438 48 3,387,492 NORTH TEXAS CONTEST
K2KQ 2477 446 48 3,314,226 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N1MM 2453 445 48 3,257,400 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
VA3RU 2781 392 3,255,168
KR0B 2512 416 48 3,133,728 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
W0ZT 2249 411 44 2,773,017 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
K0TV 2139 410 2,627,280 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N1LN 1963 405 48 2,385,045 TEXAS DX SOCIETY
W2YC @AA2WN 1684 449 48 2,268,348 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
VE3HG 1731 408 46 2,113,848
W6EEN 1488 328 48 1,462,224 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
K0FJ 1342 330 37 1,326,600
W3LJ 965 297 38 859,815
K9ES 286 79 25 67,308 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOAB QRP
N4KG 922 283 32 782,778
K7MM 735 219 482,895
N3GXY 360 156 25 168,480
KI0II 276 135 111,780 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
K8ZT 207 123 76,014
NQ7X 208 102 12 63,648 AZ SCQRPIONS
W9HL 132 86 34,056 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
WB6BWZ 129 80 7 30,960 SOUTH EAST CONTEST C
N7IR 91 51 3 13,923 CENTRAL ARIZONA DX A
WD4OAY 60 44 19 7,920
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOAB LP
VA3UZ 1767 343 34 1,807,953 U-VE CONTEST CLUB
AC0W 1620 335 43 1,628,100 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N1SV 1454 345 1,508,890 YCCC
K8EP 1508 320 42 1,447,680
N5AW 1419 339 41 1,443,123 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
N4TZ/9 (N4TZ) 1355 344 1,398,360 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K1VR 1280 345 36 1,324,800 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
K1VUT 1297 305 37 1,186,755 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
VE5SF 1076 260 26 826,800
N0FP 857 243 28 624,753 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N6WIN @W6KK 819 243 29 597,051
W3LL 691 267 28 553,491 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W7YAQ 822 224 19 552,384 WVDXC
K0XH 808 227 40 550,248 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N1LW 733 244 536,556 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
K9JLS @AI9U 741 237 30 526,851 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K1HT 690 245 14 507,150 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N2GA 723 229 15 496,701 ORDER OF BOILED OWLS
VE4YU 709 213 452,412
W2ENY 596 251 448,788 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
W3SE 617 237 438,687 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
VE7FO 736 200 31 427,800
WS7V 671 204 410,652
NX9T 605 211 10 382,965 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
WN3VAW 545 233 24 380,955 WIRELESS ASSOCIATION
K8IA 578 219 20 379,746
VE3AGC 583 215 30 376,035 GOLDEN HORSESHOE DX
VA3TTT 570 204 342,720
NS4W @K4UCF 542 198 321,948 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
N9XX 563 188 317,532 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K1VSJ 518 191 10 296,814 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N6EM 587 168 295,344 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
K3OX 428 219 11 281,196
K8KHZ 495 180 265,680 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
W1DAD 427 207 265,167 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
AA1UT 443 190 29 252,510
WA7YAZ 499 157 235,029
W0RK 428 177 20 227,268
AA6PW 404 163 14 197,556 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
KW7N 399 162 193,914
AB2E 344 175 180,600
KE4KMG 334 134 133,464 TCG
W8DRZ 321 132 27 127,116 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
W4/VE3BUC (VE3 268 131 9 105,324 SNOWBIRD MOBILE
W1AMF 280 122 8 102,480
NS3T 214 158 15 101,436
AB0MV 239 122 87,474 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
K8GT 226 125 84,750 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
K1VU 169 97 49,179 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N7XY 136 109 7 44,472 WWDXC
WA4PXP @W4MQ 97 97 10 28,227
VO1MX 118 75 2 26,325
W7UQ (KL9A) 217 39 4 25,389 WORLDWIDE YOUNG CONT
K2CC (KC2BMG) 120 70 24,780
W6ZZZ 45 35 4,725 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
WA2PQE 25 20 7 1,500
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOAB HP
KQ2M 4403 503 45 6,642,618 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K5ZD (KM3T) 3887 464 42 5,405,136
VE3EJ 3656 487 44 5,265,444 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K4ZW 3868 451 47 5,233,404 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W9RE 3907 453 5,187,000 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
N2NT 3493 466 48 4,880,418 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
VY2SS (K6LA) 3505 401 48 4,216,515 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
AA1K 3211 415 48 3,997,695 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
WB9Z 3045 434 45 3,964,590 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K3ZO 3164 413 40 3,920,196 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
K5TR 3010 410 46 3,702,300 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
N9RV 3141 381 32 3,584,448 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K1KI (KM1P) 2823 324 35 2,879,982 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W7GG 2619 361 41 2,788,725 WVDXC
K4AB 2411 380 2,748,540 SOUTH EAST CONTEST C
K9ZO (KB9UWU) 2051 351 40 2,159,703 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
W6UE (W4EF) 2126 341 42 2,139,093 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
W4WTB 1544 351 35 1,625,832
VO1WET 2055 253 20 1,555,191
K8AL 1423 361 29 1,541,109 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K3MD 1411 331 31 1,401,123 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N0KV 1484 305 35 1,347,795
N2GC 1294 322 28 1,250,004 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N3HXQ 1306 306 39 1,188,810 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
N6ZZ 1614 241 25 1,156,077
N1JP 1166 312 26 1,091,376 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
K4BAI 1438 252 1,087,128 SOUTH EAST CONTEST C
KI9A @K0LIR 1248 97 28 1,063,296 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K0OU 1047 297 29 932,877 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K2BX 1009 290 20 877,830 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W1AO 1006 285 18 860,130 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W9JA 808 330 24 799,920
N6CCL 829 276 683,100 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
KI6CG 874 230 24 602,370 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
AD8J 748 237 16 531,828 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K6LRN 659 237 468,549 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
K1TEO 771 196 7 453,348
W0ZQ 648 227 441,288 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N8PW 657 220 28 432,960 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K5XR (W5ASP) 740 195 432,900 TEXAS DX SOCIETY
K5YAA 713 178 18 380,742 OKLAHOMA DX ASSOCIAT
NR7DX (K7ABV) 602 206 15 372,036 NORTHERN ROCKIES DX
K3VA 505 231 349,965 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
KO7X @KI7WX 305 154 5 140,910 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W4NZ 321 137 8 131,931 TENNESSEE CONTEST GR
VE5CPU 147 65 4 28,665
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOAB(A) LP
NA2U 1261 329 30 1,244,607 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W0LSD 1055 289 30 914,685
K5IID 995 298 31 889,530 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
N6WS 908 314 30 854,394 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
WO1N 709 335 22 712,545 YU CONTEST CLUB
K0UK 669 317 636,219 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
K0PC 590 226 19 400,200 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N1NB 554 236 16 392,232 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
KB1GW 626 195 22 365,626 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
WN6K 528 228 15 361,152 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
K9GY 460 94 129,720 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K6KYJ 294 139 19 122,598 WIRED LIL' PISTOLS
N3SD 252 152 114,912 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOAB(A) HP
KE2TR 1934 414 40 24,000,786
K3WW 3356 523 48 5,265,564 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W2RE 3239 506 45 4,915,284 HVCDX
K2DM 2514 453 39 3,415,167 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W1GD 2278 448 38 3,061,632
W2GDJ 2201 433 40 2,859,099 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N8TR 2015 471 40 2,847,195 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K5KG 2046 430 38 2,638,050 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
AA3B 2051 408 39 2,510,424 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3PP 1848 381 32 2,112,264 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W3MF 1688 408 26 2,066,112 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N0AV 1361 385 24 1,570,800
N8KM 1465 357 40 1,569,015 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
N3ZA 1204 416 38 1,502,592 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
VE1OP 1417 346 28 1,462,542
K8LN 1232 363 24 1,341,648 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
ND5S 1018 427 23 1,302,777 GREAT LAKES DX / CON
WT3W 1134 349 24 1,187,298 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K1GU 1142 335 36 1,147,710 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
K0KX 1116 338 16 1,128,582 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
W8CAR 1256 269 20 1,013,592 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
W3GH 1012 311 1,012,305
N2CY 1037 306 27 951,966 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W6TK 1023 304 19 930,240 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
KA2D 1046 292 27 916,926 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W3GM (K3ND) 929 313 19 872,331 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N0XB 1072 270 24 867,510 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
K1JE 890 288 768,096 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NX5M 700 308 9 646,800 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
AA4V 783 266 11 623,238 CAROLINA DX ASSOCIAT
W3IQ 837 221 554,931 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
KI6T 709 245 521,115 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
NA2M 555 260 432,900 ORDER OF BOILED OWLS
W2UP 552 261 5 432,216 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K7OX 548 235 385,635
KD2HE 530 201 319,590
K6RIM 429 226 290,862 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
KC0CZI 422 158 12 198,132
WC1M 381 165 5 188,595 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
AB1R 262 152 13 119,016
KW8W 158 106 5 50,244 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
WO9S 127 63 24,003 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/10 QRP
K6III 158 56 26,544 NCCC
W6RCL 140 43 18,060
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/10 LP
W7ZR 936 116 24 325,728 WVDXC
N6MU @N6NB 932 109 304,764 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
W7UT 721 114 246,582 UTAH'S DIXIE DX & CO
W0ETC 775 104 15 241,800 TENNESSEE CONTEST GR
N7CZ 410 80 98,400
KS2G 414 76 7 94,392 ORDER OF BOILED OWLS
N2CU 374 84 8 94,248 WESTERN NEW YORK DX
KN0V 253 759 53,889 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
WA7BNM 100 54 2 16,200 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/10 HP
W4ZV 2212 135 31 895,860 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W5PR 2102 134 845,004 TEXAS DX SOCIETY
K9NW @K9UWA 1973 123 30 728,037 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
VO1MP 1795 116 624,660
K7XZ (K1MY) 1715 115 30 591,330 CENTRAL ARIZONA DX A
K7QQ 1624 113 550,536 WWDXC
K5AM 1606 111 534,798
N3HBX 1708 103 527,772 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
VA7XX 1534 112 514,752
N6ED 1300 119 464,100
VE6JY (TI2WGO) 977 111 325,008
K3JT 1044 99 309,474 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
N7YX 680 110 20 223,410 WWDXC
K8IR 479 89 17 127,626 BAY AREA WIRELESS AS
N5KB 174 76 39,672 NORTH TEXAS CONTEST
W4ZYT 127 55 2 20,955 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/15 LP
VE3RCN 175 65 24 34,125
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/15 HP
VE6WQ @VE6JY 277 136 1,048,152
N3RD @N3RS 2286 146 1,001,268 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N2TX 2183 142 929,532 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W7WA 2297 132 909,612 WWDXC
K6HNZ 1295 109 423,465
AD4L @N4AF 1196 118 30 423,384 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W4SAA 320 84 14 80,720 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/20 LP
W5ZO 377 92 105,182
K0FX 234 79 5 55,458 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
VA3WN 72 42 3 8,946
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/20 HP
N7DD 1344 124 499,596
WW4M @N4AF 1161 105 365,400 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
K4XDX 726 114 24 246,114
VE6EX @VE6JY 818 99 38 225,720
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/40 LP
W4NC (N4VHK) 100 47 10 14,100 CAROLINA DX ASSOCIAT
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/40 HP
K4XS 856 92 29 236,256 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
VA6MA (VE6MAA) 309 72 66,744
KD4RH 116 52 12 18,096 CAROLINA DX ASSOCIAT
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/80 HP
VA6DXR (VE6JY) 37 24 2,592
Teams:
9A7A 9A8A, 9A7V, 9A6DM, 9A4RX, 9A4PA, 9A4BT, 9A3TR,
9A3OS, 9A2ME
HG6N HA3OV HA6DX HA6ND HA6NF HA6NQ HA6NY HA6PX
DL6RAI DL1MGB, DL2NBU, DL4RDJ, DL6RAI AND DJ5CL
OA4O OA4EI, OA4AHW, OA4BHY, OA4CRK, OA4DII, OA4DIX,
OA4DJW, OA4DKC, OA4DMR (OH0XX), DL1NL
LY7Z LY1DS, LY2TA, LY3MM
YT9X @YU1AAX YT1RU, YT1RA, YZ1KA, YU1JW, YU1ZZ, MARKO
EA5DFV EA5ON EA5CLH EC5CPL EA5DFV
V26S N2WKS KD3TB W3CF
9A1A N4PN, NF4A, 9A5W, 9A3GW, 9A6A, 9A6D, 9A7R,
9A5K, 9A8W, 9A9A
EA8ZS EA8ZS AND GALDAR CONTEST TEAM
LT1F LU1FAM, LU1FGE, LU1FT, LU1FD, LU1FKR, LU3FP,
LU3FZW, LU5FHM, LU6FQD, LU8FOX, LU2FV
KH6/W2EDD @KH AD4J, K3ZM, W4GKA
VP5B K4ISV, K4CN
FY5KE F1HAR F5MZN F6FVY FY5FU FY5FY F5HRY
PJ4G K2NG, K2TW, NO2R
TM5C F6CTT - F5MUX - F5NLY - F5VCO - F4SGU
CT9M CT3BD, CT3DL, CT3EE, CT3EN, CT3HK, CT3IA,
CT3IQ, CT3KU
OM0M OM3BH, OM3CHL, OM8DX, OM8AW
OM7M OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OE2S OE2GEN, OE2LCM, OE2MON, OE2VEL
IQ4T I4IFL I4MNY IK4HVR IK4MGP IK4MGX IK4SXJ IK4WMH
PW0T PY7ZZ, PY7XC, PY5CC, PY5HSD, PT7BZ, PY1RO,
PY0FF, N6FF, PY7ZY
SN8V @SP8YMM SP8GQU, SP8ARY, SP8GWI, SP8LBK, SP8NCF, SQ8BGJ
LU1NF LU1NDC, LU2NI & LU8NA
PI4TUE PA3EZL PE1PRG
LA2Z LA3BO, LA6MV
IO4T IK4RQJ, IK4VET, IK4XCL, IK4ZHH, IK4ALM, IZ4DIJ
VK4UC VK4UC;NO7T
V31MF V31MF/KC5ZT
K4JA K4JA, K4MA, K9JY, KE9I, W3BP, KG9X
KI1G KI1G, K1NG, WF1B,KS1J,K1JN,K1SD,KB1LN
KR1G WA1S NR1DX W1AAX WC1M KR1G
N4TO K1TO, N4DL, N4TO, T93M, T93Y
K1IR AA1AA, K1EP, K1IR, KM2P, W1VE
KB1H KB1H, NB1U, N1XS, K1EBY, AA1CE, KB1DFB, W1TJL,
W3TB, KE1LI
W5KFT W5KFT, W6PH, K5TSQ, K5PI, W5TA, W5JEN, W5TD
VE6SV VE5FN VA6EA VE6AKY VE6EZ VE6NAP VE6RFM VE6SV
K2RD WA1FCN W1CU K2WR K2RD
NK7U NK7U, K7ZO, W7ZRC, WA7LT, KK7A, K7MK
N5TW WM5R NA4M KM5TY N5DUW WS4G W5TD N5TW
VE1JF VE1JF, VE1AI, VE1AMJ, VE1DHD, VE1HC, VE1MOO
AA5NT N3BUO, KK7JS, WD5FLK, N1CC, N5NJ, AA5NT,
KC5LOS, KC5SDY, W5GDC
KK1L KK1L, K1KD, W1SJ, W1DEC, AA1SU, K1WEY, N1ZUK,
K1HD, KC1WH
VE7SCC VE7HHS VA7DX
N3BB W5JEN, W5RQA, W5TA, WR5Q, KD5QJV, N3BB
KC1XX K1GQ W1FV AD1C HC1OT K6AW W1MD W2RQ K1XX
K9NS AA9D,K9DX,K9HMB,K9NO,K9PPY,K9PW,K9QVB,K9RO,
K9RS,KO9A,KS9W,W9RM,WE9V.
W2FU W2FU, K2UA, N2MG, K2AXX, K2DB, K2TER, K1PY
W1FJ @W1KM NB1B, W1KM, N1TB, N1NK, W1NA, W1FJ
N2RM N2RM N2NC WM2H
W3PP W3PP N6ZO K3FT N3KW W2GJ KB3FEE W3PAR N3PT KW3Z
K3ANS K3ANS, N3PUR, N3MX, KB3CBO, K3YD, W3ZL, KC3WX,
W0RSJ
K3NM K3IPK,K3ZV,LU9AY,K3NM
N6RO K3EST, K6RC, K6TA, K6KO, KI7WX, W6SR, N6BV,
N6SNO, N6RO
W4MYA N4DEN, N4EHJ, K4KJL,K4KML,K4WMA,KF4QQY,W4HZ,
W4MYA,WK4Y
W8ZA K3DNE, K8OQL, ND3A, N8II, W8ZA
W2CG W2CG, W2EN, W2NO, K2WJ
K3OO @K3OOO K3OO & K3OOO
K3CT @K3II K3CT, K3II
NY4T NY4T N4LKE W1ADE KR4FO KG4RDF KG4MHK
K8AZ K8AZ, K8BL, K8NZ, ND8L, W8KIC, WB8K, WT8C
W0GU @N2IC N2IC,NA5S,K0KR
W4MR @AA4NC AA4NC, N4YDU, K4HA
K8CC K8CC, K8GL, KE8OC
K5NZ W5BA , K5GA , K5NZ
K0DU K0CL, N0ZA, KC0DKX,K0UK
K2XR K2XR+K2OWR+WB2WIK
NE3F KS3F K3ATO NT3V NG3Z KB3GWY
K5NA K5NA, K5DU, KI5DR, N5ZC, K2UR, NT5C
N5YA N5YA, WX0B, N5KR, K5MR, K5WO, KR5F
K2KQ K2KQ, W2WB
N1MM N1MM, N1IXF
VA3RU VE3NZ VA3RU
KR0B KR0B,NOBKL,KS0T,N0RA,KJ0B,K0KP,KB0KQA
W0ZT W0ZT, K0SR, K0XN
K0TV KB1PZ W1ES NF1A K0TV
N1LN W5MF, K7LEX, W5MJS, N1LN
VE3HG VE3HG, VE3RZ, VA3GGF, VA3EC
W6EEN W6EEN, K6XC, W6AQ, W6ORD
K0FJ K0FJ K0BJ KC0JAO
W3LJ W3IDT K3NCO KA3UBJ W3LJ
K9ES K9ES, AD4ES
>From K4tmc at aol.com Fri Apr 5 22:27:18 2002
From: K4tmc@aol.com (K4tmc@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Huntsville, AL
Message-ID: <d3.976099e.29dfc516@aol.com>
Any contesters in the Huntsville area? I'll be in town visiting Wyle Labs
for a few days and wondering if there are any local club meetings happening.
Or, would anyone be interested in contest strategy discussions during dinner
one evening?
73,
Henry Pollock - K4TMC
Raleigh, NC
>From k7qq at netzero.net Sat Apr 6 06:47:34 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <00ee01c1dd2f$ca75be40$fb1dfa43@computer>
Hey Bob U can do like I do Archieve them then U have too many per band file
to even look at them
QUACK
----- Original Message -----
From: <bob.wruble@verizon.net>
To: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>; "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 17:25
Subject: Re: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> forcing u to upload all of ur logs is a stupid move in my opinion
> becuz that sends a endless stream of eqsls to stations that
> have no interest in getting them .... like me!
> why do i need 20 qsls from k7qq each contest season??
> or from other domestic contest stns??
>
> i have not uploaded any of my annual 30k plus contest
> qsos to eqsl for this very reason ....... i saw eqsl as a great tool to
> respond to the constant drone of incoming qsl requests
> that follow/plague contesters ........
>
> i want to support the paper chasers in the hobby in exchage for their
wking
> me in the contests ......... but now it looks like this
> can't be done without uploading the logs?
>
> lifes a bitch and then u die!
>
> de w7gg/ai7b/ww7or
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
> To: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:42 PM
> Subject: Fw: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> > Quacks
> > I find that in most cases where I have one that isn't correct its is
> simply
> > a bad time or band in the Log that I uploaded or his log. When U reject
> > just put in the time shown in Ur log and if he wants the card he can
> obtain
> > it that way. I don't even look at the ards that come thru. I respond
> when
> > I get SASE /$ I have 5 years of cards at the buro that I may get some
> day.
> > I load logs to e-QSL right after a contest so I don't have to confirm
> them.
> > The recient chang at e-QSL makes for a bigger job but no BFD. I still
am
> > tring to work WAS.
> >
> > Quack
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ted demopoulos" <kr1g@hotmail.com>
> > To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 03:10
> > Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> >
> >
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > > You are not quite right, although close. If the times are off or
> something
> > > else is wrong (and you probably won't know what, just that you worked
> > > P5/KR1G on 160 and the logs have been submitted and you don't have
> > credit),
> > > you would de *exactly* what you do today - send P5/KR1G's QSL manager,
> > > KC1XX, a note saying "man I know I'm in the log can you double check
> > > please?" And Matt may find a problem, like your call K1IR was logged
> > > correctly on the cheap one-ply toilet paper KR1G used for logging
> because
> > > his laptop ran erratically on P5 power but copied into the computer
log
> > > incorrectly.
> > >
> > > As far as being too strict, blame me!! The biggest strength and reason
> for
> > > the prestige of the DXCC program is its security - yes, you can scam
it.
> > > Print your own DL, and G and EA6 and PYOF cards and submit them and
> > they'll
> > > probably pass. Try that with a P5 or VU7 card and it gets *much*
harder.
> > > They do catch cheaters quite often I'm told. Any eQSL system MUST be
at
> > > least as secure! If its too secure and a too much of a hassle (the two
> go
> > > hand in hand), it can be loosened later. We did consider possible (in
> some
> > > cases probable) attacks and some of the "features" are designed
> especially
> > > for them. Yes, I am Paranoid - its my job :)
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Ted KR1G
> > >
> > > >From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
> > > >To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> > > >
> > > >Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what
we
> > can
> > > >call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the
> > point?
> > > >If
> > > >you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We
> submit
> > > >the
> > > >information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations
review
> > > >their
> > > >logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good
one,
> > but
> > > >I
> > > >don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our
clocks
> > are
> > > >off
> > > >by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line
> > QSL -
> > > >no
> > > >QSO - and no way to track it.
> > > >
> > > >What do the DXCC Rules say?
> > > >
> > > >"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV
apply,
> > > >written
> > > >proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be
> > > >submitted
> > > >directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . .
> Staff
> > > >may
> > > >accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are
adopted."
> > > >
> > > >and,
> > > >
> > > >"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the
call
> > > >signs of
> > > >both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and
> date,
> > > >time
> > > >and band."
> > > >
> > > >For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX
station -
> > > >solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new
> double-blind
> > > >confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic
> QSLing.
> > > >
> > > >It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a
pleasure
> to
> > > >get
> > > >them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether
> > printed
> > > >or
> > > >electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed
country.
> > > >
> > > >Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL
> > DXCC
> > > >policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
> > > >accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
> > > >
> > > >73,
> > > >
> > > >Jim Idelson K1IR
> > > >email k1ir@designet.com
> > > >web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
> > > >
> > > >_______________________________________________
> > > >CQ-Contest mailing list
> > > >CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > > >http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> > >
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
>
>From ei4hq at qsl.net Sat Apr 6 08:22:35 2002
From: ei4hq@qsl.net (Cormac, EI4HQ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re eQSL change of policy...
Message-ID: <005001c1dd3b$d3e08440$0200a8c0@CormacGebruers>
I've been following this thread with some interest. I've some clarifications if
I may. All the questions below relate to statements made in emails on this
thread...
Is it the case that US stations are not required to maintain a general logbook
of all contacts?
How is eQSL "charging" for "free" QSL's?
How is eQSL effectively behaving as a QSL manager?
Cormac, EI4HQ
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>From BobK8IA at aol.com Sat Apr 6 07:23:24 2002
From: BobK8IA@aol.com (BobK8IA@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New Contesting Radio?
Message-ID: <1a8.421a45.29e042bc@aol.com>
>From http://www.tentec.com/TT565.htm
"Instant Two Radio Mode" allows ORION to instantly QSY between two different
bands. Two linear amplifiers, two sets of accessory devices via dual band data
outputs and two antennas can optionally be connected to ORION to allow
instantaneous QSY.
Unfortunately is still "looks like a TenTec"
73, de Hans, K0HB
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Hi Hans;
I guess I've been away from contesting too long as I didnt realize that they
gave points for how sexy the radio one is competing with looks! <g>
Seriously, if a radio yields the perfomance and flexiblility necessary for
that competitive "edge" I couldnt care less what it looks like. And
competition is why we all subscribe to this thread, right?
Nope, I am not a Ten Tec user/owner but the Orion certainly intirgues me.
Take care..see ya
73, Bob K8IA
Michigan USA
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Sat Apr 6 07:20:29 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New Contesting Radio?
In-Reply-To: <001c01c1dcd7$fe2fa820$0215be3f@bigguy>
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020406071307.02516ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 08:27 PM 4/5/02 +0100, K0HB wrote:
>Unfortunately is still "looks like a TenTec"
Yeah, but ... It looks as if they have clearly given ergonomics a lot more
thought than Yaesu et al. Look where the knobs are -- no important
controls on little bitty knobs along the bottom edge of the radio where you
almost need tweezers to get at them. No letting the shape of the previous
panel casting drive the new control layout...
Also, cascading narrow crystal filters in the first IF with IF DSP further
back sure makes sense to this layman, compared to wide roofing filters with
the sharpness at the back end -- if it works as described, there may be a
lot of MPs and Mark V's on the used market.
>From k7qq at netzero.net Sat Apr 6 16:41:28 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: K6III has rejected one of your eQSL log entries
Message-ID: <013a01c1dd81$c8332800$fb1dfa43@computer>
Quacks
I don't have any logs prior to 1997 in ADIF format so I just tell those
prior to that date no chance of confirmation.
I have found that by sending an e-mail to some rejections with date, time,
and band they are able to get confirmation if they desire. Its a bit of a
hassle, but part of the price of contesting. I have 44K Q's uploaded and
have maybe looked at 2 or 3 that have come in via e-qsl.
Don't complain guys just archieve them and delete the reject messages from
e-QSL if its too much bother.
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: <k6iii@juno.com>
To: <k7qq@netzero.net>
Cc: <k6iii@arrl.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 06:59
Subject: Re: K6III has rejected one of your eQSL log entries
> Yea, right.... need another eQSL like a....
> The new eQSL inbox format is not my idea of the way to go, but, then I
> guess that's the price to get the accredited for DXCC, etc...
>
> Trying to find old logs from 12-13 years ago is a no go...
>
> 73 es see u in the next contest.
>
> de Jerry/k6iii
> San Jose, CA
> On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 06:30:33 +0100 "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net> writes:
> > Tnx 100"s of Q's in contest I really need this confirmation HA HA.
> > 73 and
> > CU in the next one
> > Quack
>
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Apr 6 13:54:36 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re eQSL change of policy...
References: <200204061702.g36H2XAl032110@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <005201c1dd9c$c477b260$03010a0a@office1>
Cormac,
Good questions. Short answers:
1. For many years, the US FCC has not legally required us to keep a
logbook -- and some don't. We are encouraged to do so but it's no longer a
legal requirement.
2. eQSL will print and mail a QSL that has been put in your electronic "in
box." Right now this is only available in North America. They will charge,
at present, $1 per card, with a $5 minimum charge to set up your "account."
3. If anyone prints a QSL card with your call on it, and sends out that
card based on your log, they are acting as a QSL Manager. eQSL's present
system of charging for cards means that they are doing just that, since the
printed card is based on your log. This is why many amateurs have now
pulled their logs from eQSL.cc.
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cormac, EI4HQ" <ei4hq@qsl.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re eQSL change of policy...
I've been following this thread with some interest. I've some
clarifications if I may. All the questions below relate to statements
made in emails on this thread...
Is it the case that US stations are not required to maintain a general
logbook of all contacts?
How is eQSL "charging" for "free" QSL's?
How is eQSL effectively behaving as a QSL manager?
Cormac, EI4HQ
>From thompson at mindspring.com Sat Apr 6 15:08:03 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ten Tec Orion and limited SO2R
Message-ID: <006901c1dda6$c2b165c0$476156d1@default>
Hans, K0HB mention of the ability of the orion to handle limited two radio
function can easily be accomplished now with Software defined radios SDR.
The Orion and the FT1000D allows limited SO2R and now the Orion allows a
second amp and antenna. Even back in the late 60's Hallicrafters SR2000 and
SR400 allowed two frequency operation at once so you could run on say 14155
and tune the band with the other VFO. Both allowed dual RX without switching
between the two VFO's. This can be done (less the dual duplex RX) with
most transceivers. My older FT980's allow me to work satellite on 21.230
and receive on 28.940.
SO2R is easy when you are Single band because there is usually no need for
another amp and antenna. Multi band SO2R is more complicated. Even the
logging software has to be set up properly to record the right rig and band.
On the writelog reflector a common complaint is that the wrong band or mode
was logged and how do you fix??
73 Dave K4JRB
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Sat Apr 6 19:08:38 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References:
<20020405122256.5465.c002-h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <013601c1ddd0$c00c1d40$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
> present system or any future system. But the machine can stop an
> individual from fraudulently taking advantage of some else's error. Is
> it worth it the inconvience?
A machine can also obscure a small but pertinent piece of information (e.g.
log entry is local time not UTC) that would allow a human to quickly
identify and verify a questionable qso in a collection of logs. While a
machine can present a barrier to fraud it can also present a barrier to
knowledge. Furthermore, erecting machine barriers of any kind can turn a
system design into an endless exercise of dealing with exceptions -- these
systems can collapse under their own complexity. Wisdom suggests that just
because it can be done by machine does not mean it should be done.
> Anyone got a different solution?
Accept the simple realization that an ARRL award or any other award for that
matter is simply that an award. We do not need to build a Fort Knox to
protect these awards. And yes cheaters will some times get certificates - so
what! Why not build a system that follows an age old amateur radio community
tradition of striving to enable the exchange of knowledge and not hinder it.
A twist. All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as well
as more check logs!
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From ve4xt at mb.sympatico.ca Sat Apr 6 20:25:23 2002
From: ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K7RI, KH6J, K7QQ, K7BV, K9NS, W1YK
Message-ID: <003401c1dddb$792308c0$0100a8c0@joe>
Hi, if you're one of these guys, I want to hear from you!
I'm writing the QST report for 2001 ARRL SS Phone, and I need to talk (type)
to you about your station and your effort.
Please e-mail me at ve4xt@mts.net or reply to this message.
Thanks!
Kelly
VE4XT
>From ve4xt at mb.sympatico.ca Sat Apr 6 21:17:32 2002
From: ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Did you miss just one sect. in SS Phone?
Message-ID: <00a901c1dde2$c1cefdc0$0100a8c0@joe>
Please tell me which one it was. Just doing a quick poll for a report on SS
in QST.
Thanks.
Kelly
ve4xt
>From k7qq at netzero.net Sun Apr 7 07:49:15 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <004701c1ddf7$f7be77c0$052bfa43@computer>
Quacks
The following by VE5XZ is an exlent idea for LOtw and would encourage more
contest activity I'm sure by the casual op's who are looking to get WAS ,
DXCC, and band states , countries. I hope others in the Contest community
will push this idea.
Rex K7QQ
> > Anyone got a different solution?
>
> Accept the simple realization that an ARRL award or any other award for
that
> matter is simply that an award. We do not need to build a Fort Knox to
> protect these awards. And yes cheaters will some times get certificates -
so
> what! Why not build a system that follows an age old amateur radio
community
> tradition of striving to enable the exchange of knowledge and not hinder
it.
>
> A twist. All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
> contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
> award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
> required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as
well
> as more check logs!
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> "A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Sun Apr 7 07:10:23 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <004701c1ddf7$f7be77c0$052bfa43@computer>
Message-ID: <003901c1ddf2$86e715c0$3d11be3f@bigguy>
Sure sounds like a no-brainer to me.
"Way back when" such contacts in ARRL DX Contest were creditable.
73, Hans, K0HB
> > A twist. All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
> > contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
> > award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
> > required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as
> >well as more check logs!
>From ve3pn at igs.net Sun Apr 7 08:05:25 2002
From: ve3pn@igs.net (PETER BARRON)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #87 - 9 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200204060555.g365t1Al022144@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000501c1de02$97c4c300$98f4a8c0@HOMEOFFICE>
I also read that with interest BUT does it allow true two radio mode i.e. Rx
on radio 2 whilst TX on radio1
Its does say (my underlining)
""Instant Two Radio Mode" allows ORION to instantly QSY between two
different bands. Two linear amplifiers, two sets of accessory devices via
dual band data outputs and two antennas can optionally be connected to ORION
to allow instantaneous QSY (useful for seeking out and working stations on
one band during a contest while CQing on a different band, for example)."
This IMPLIES that radio 1 can be CQing i.e. Transmitting on one band whilst
Rx on another BUT does not specifically say that one can
Peter
Ve3pn@igs.net
From: "K0HB" <k0hb@earthlink.net>
To: "MWA Reflector" <mn-wireless-assn@yahoogroups.com>,
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New Contesting Radio?
>From http://www.tentec.com/TT565.htm
"Instant Two Radio Mode" allows ORION to instantly QSY between two different
bands. Two linear amplifiers, two sets of accessory devices via dual band
data
outputs and two antennas can optionally be connected to ORION to allow
instantaneous QSY.
Unfortunately is still "looks like a TenTec"
73, de Hans, K0HB
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Sun Apr 7 08:11:27 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020407071051.00c60220@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
Sylvan,
The below used to be the case. I'm not sure when it
stopped, but it was a good deal for those taht don't
like to QSL. I have often thought that it would be a good
deal to bring it back.
As you say, with the software that is in place now, they
could just credit you and then notify you later...hi.
73, Tom K5IID
At 19:08 04/06/02 -0600, you wrote:
>A twist. All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
>contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
>award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
>required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as well
>as more check logs!
>From k7zo at cableone.net Sun Apr 7 11:04:32 2002
From: k7zo@cableone.net (K7ZO (Scott Tuthill))
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX M/S Rules Question
Message-ID: <004101c1de4d$e7e3d240$6401a8c0@3ComC>
To all: I have a question on the WPX M/S rules. I was at NK7U last weekend
and we were going to operate M/S but then realized that we either did not
understand the M/S rules and/or Writelog could not manage it. Overall the
M/S rules are very familiar as they match CQWW. The question is with respect
to serial numbers. The rules state: " One -- and only one -- other band may
be used during any 10-minute period if -- and only if -- the station worked
is a new multiplier. Use a separate serial numbers for the multiplier
station...."
Does this mean you would have, potentially, two separate serial number
sequences on a given band? For example, NK7U starts the contest and is
running on 10M. I find a new mult on 15M and work it giving it serial number
1. I then go on to find several other mults giving them serial number 2, 3,
4, and 5. Then later when 10M dies and NK7U moves to 15M and starts running
what serial number does he start with. Does he start with 1 since that would
be a separate serial number sequence for running. Or does he use 6 since
that would be the next serial number in the 15M band sequence?
We could not figure it out so we ended up running a 2 person M/M instead.
Then the flares pretty well wiped things out anyway....
Thanks for your help.
Scott/K7ZO
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Sun Apr 7 14:18:56 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL awards/contest logs
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHGEKMDEAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
Ve5ZX wrote:
>All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
>contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
>award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
?required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as well
>as more check logs! ... sylvan
And I think it's a GREAT idea. Suggest it to your ARRL director!
N2EA
>From w7why at harborside.com Sun Apr 7 21:11:06 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <s1h8xf5bc0ebapn.030420022037@designet-jsi>
Message-ID: <3CB099CA.B49A99EE@harborside.com>
Jim Idelson wrote:
> What do the DXCC Rules say?
>
> "2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV >apply,
> written proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication >(contacts) must be
> submitted directly to ARRL Headquarters for >all DXCC credits claimed . . .
Most of the cards I now get just have a label affixed to them.
Anyone can get (or make) a card and print a label. They are
rarely signed any more and they usually cone in an envelope so
they have no postmarks or stamps on them. I remember the last
time I got a bunch of samples from a QSL card printer they had
some pretty good DX cards in them. Just print out some labels
and stick them on a card and mail them in. How is that more
secure than an eQSL?
Tom W7WHY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sun Apr 7 18:25:55 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 SP DX Contest - Claimed scores 07Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020407171945.00aa55a0@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 SP DX Contest - Claimed scores 07Apr2002
Log Due: April 30, 2002
E-mail logs to: spdxc-logs@pzk.org.pl
Mail logs to:
Polski Zwiazek Krotkofalowcow
SPDX Contest Committee
P.O. Box 320
00-950 Warszawa
Poland
Find rules at: http://www.sp5zcc.waw.pl/spdxc/reg_g.html
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
3830 Archives - http://lists.contesting.com/_3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABCW
SN7N (SP7PS) HP 1013 0 192 24 361,728
N1RR HP 522 0 84 19 131,544
VE3QAA HP 500 0 81 121,500
VE1OP HP 363 0 63 15 68,607
W4SAA HP 297 0 68 60,588
AB2E LP 172 0 61 10 31,476
N6ZZ HP 165 0 53 26,235
VE9DX LP 27 0 15 1,215
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABMixed
RD4M (UA4LU) HP 403 552 77 19 220,605
K3WW HP 404 360 85 14 194,565
N2ED HP 433 329 80 14 178,080
N9RV HP 149 2 45 2 20,385
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABSSB
VE6POL @VE6JY HP 0 486 52 20 74,880
VE3BUC LP 0 70 210 3 6,090
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/10SSB
VA3KA HP 0 223 16 8 10,704
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/20CW
K2SX HP 88 0 16 4,224
K9NW LP 8 0 6 144
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/20SSB
M0GTO LP 0 30 11 2 990
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/80CW
LY2NXW LP 102 0 16 4,896
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/80Mixed
LY2FY HP 0 162 31 7 14,973 KTU RC
Band Breakdowns:
160 80 40 20 15 10
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABCW
SN7N (SP7
004/000/017 13/000/033 24/000/036 32/000/050 18/000/036 8/000/020
N1RR 006/000/003 33/000/016 58/000/016 131/000/016 165/000/017
129/000/016
VE3QAA 001/000/001 39/000/016 58/000/016 125/000/016 164/000/016
113/000/016
VE1OP 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
/000/000
W4SAA 000/000/000 7/000/006 59/000/016 71/000/014 80/000/016
80/000/016
AB2E 000/000/000 11/000/009 46/000/016 59/000/015 45/000/015
11/000/006
N6ZZ 000/000/000 /000/000 14/000/010 47/000/016 78/000/016
26/000/011
VE9DX 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 15/000/007
12/000/008
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABMixed
RD4M (UA4 031/000/013 98/000/016 169/000/016 335/000/016
332/000/016 /000/000
K3WW 005/000/005 42/003/016 64/000/016 102/112/016
117/165/016 74/080/016
N2ED 005/000/003 23/000/013 46/005/016 100/067/016
174/196/016 85/060/016
N9RV 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 34/000/014 83/020/016
32/000/015
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABSSB
VE6POL @V
000/000/000 /000/000 /016/011 /206/016 /241/016 /023/009
VE3BUC 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /002/006 /034/102
/034/102
>From k2kw at prodigy.net Mon Apr 8 22:16:55 2002
From: k2kw@prodigy.net (K2KW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Visalia Contest Dinner - Gett'n short!
Message-ID: <005401c1df7d$6337ec80$b11daace@main>
Visalia is just around the corner... Don't miss out on the best dinner at
Visalia!
The Northern California Contest Club Presents the 4th Annual International
DX Convention Contest Dinner on Friday, April 26, 2002.
EVENING EVENTS:
Dinner, guest speaker, lots of contesters & DXers & door prizes. We are
pleased to announce the evening presentation: Dr Beldar's Contest
Emporium - Products you might not see at HRO...
Doors and cash bar open at 7:00 p.m. Dinner is served at 8:00 p.m.
Full details are available on the International DX Convention web site:
http://www.qsl.net/visalia2002/events.html
Dinner Choices: Prime Rib of Beef -- $29.00 or Chicken Princess -- $23.00
Purchase tickets from:
Tom Taormina, K5RC
Productivity Resources
PO Box 1126
Virginia City NV 89440
775-847-7929
775-847-7930 (FAX)
K5RC@aol.com
73, Kenny K2KW & Steve, K6AW
Organizers, 4th Annual International DX Convention Contest Dinner
>From MPeiperl at london.edu Mon Apr 8 20:01:22 2002
From: MPeiperl@london.edu (Maury Peiperl)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
References: <200204081603.g38G37Al008268@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <3CB1DAF2.10704@london.edu>
Sylvan, that may be the single best idea I have ever heard in the DXCC /
Awards area. You are talking about confirmed contacts; that is, contacts
for which the League already has both logs and has compared them. Yes cards
are nice and there is nothing like the look and feel of a good, rare one,
but this doesn't do away with that; it merely supplements it with
incontrovertible
data provided by the amateurs themselves.
I for one would even be willing to pay (within reason) for such a service.
I could finally collect my 5BDXCC, which with two small kids and the other
pressures of mid-life, I might otherwise never manage to get all the cards
for.
73
Maury W3EF / G0UHK
Ve5ZX wrote:
All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
?required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as
well
as more check logs! ... sylvan
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Mon Apr 8 15:17:21 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL awards/contest logs
References: <200204081603.g38G38Al008271@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <021b01c1df2b$26fbaba0$03010a0a@office1>
I believe this is the direction they're headed in with the implementation of
the Cabrillo format, and ultimately with Logbook of the World (although
that's not all LotW is going to do).
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
----- Original Message -----
From: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Cc: <k1ki@arrl.org>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL awards/contest logs
Ve5ZX wrote:
>All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
>contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
>award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
?required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as
well
>as more check logs! ... sylvan
And I think it's a GREAT idea. Suggest it to your ARRL director!
N2EA
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Mon Apr 8 15:27:24 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204081603.g38G38Al008271@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <021c01c1df2b$27efcfa0$03010a0a@office1>
Most of the cards I've been getting lately have either been filled out by
hand, or the label has been either signed or stamped in some way to indicate
"verified by" the QSL manager(s) and their assistant(s).
While it is true that it's not that hard to make up a card, making up a full
color glossy card using the same photo(s) as many of the DXpeditions use
today, well, that's another story. And I really can't believe it would be
worth all the time, effort, and money to duplicate most of these cards, and
make them convincing enough to pass muster -- and why would you bother with
anything but the toughest ones anyway?
I think we can accept, though, that if someone is really determined enough,
they can fool the system -- and since people check the cards, mistakes
happen and invalid cards are sometimes accepted (and good ones not). Be so
as it may...
Look, the electronic QSL concept isn't neccesarily a bad one. eQSL.cc's
implementation of it has, sadly, left a lot to be desired -- they may have
been "first," but I sure wish they'd gotten it right instead.
But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their printed
eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real breakthrough.
And those of us who still feel the old fashioned "QSL card is the last
courtesy of a QSO" mantra can still exchange cards either via paper or
electronically as we so choose.
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Osborne <w7why@harborside.com>
Reply-To: w7why@harborside.com
Organization: Amateur Radio W7WHY
To: CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Jim Idelson wrote:
> What do the DXCC Rules say?
>
> "2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV >apply,
written proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication >(contacts) must be
submitted directly to ARRL Headquarters for >all DXCC credits claimed . . .
Most of the cards I now get just have a label affixed to them.
Anyone can get (or make) a card and print a label. They are
rarely signed any more and they usually cone in an envelope so
they have no postmarks or stamps on them. I remember the last
time I got a bunch of samples from a QSL card printer they had
some pretty good DX cards in them. Just print out some labels
and stick them on a card and mail them in. How is that more
secure than an eQSL?
Tom W7WHY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 8 21:44:15 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 SP DX Contest - Claimed scores 08/Apr/2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020408204255.00a16d00@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 SP DX Contest - Claimed scores 08/Apr/2002
Log Due: April 30, 2002
E-mail logs to: spdxc-logs@pzk.org.pl
Mail logs to:
Polski Zwiazek Krotkofalowcow
SPDX Contest Committee
P.O. Box 320
00-950 Warszawa
Poland
Find rules at: http://www.sp5zcc.waw.pl/spdxc/reg_g.html
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
3830 Archives - http://lists.contesting.com/_3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
M/S
SP8YMM HP 690 890 216 24 780,192
RT9W HP 1496 95 426,360 BASHKIRIAN DX CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABCW
SN7N (SP7PS) HP 1013 0 192 24 361,728
N1RR HP 522 0 84 19 131,544
VE3QAA HP 500 0 81 121,500
NY1S LP 367 0 65 13 71,175
VE1OP HP 363 0 63 15 68,607
W4SAA HP 297 0 68 60,588
F6IRF LP 268 0 63 50,652
AB2E LP 172 0 61 10 31,476
N6ZZ HP 165 0 53 26,235
N4GG HP 150 0 47 3 21,150
OM9ANL (F6FNL) LP 113 0 31 6 10,509
WN6K LP 50 0 17 2,550
VE9DX LP 27 0 15 1,215
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABMixed
SP2DWG LP 1003 165 330,165
UA9CDC HP 333 600 91 17 254,709
RD4M (UA4LU) HP 403 552 77 19 220,605
K3WW HP 404 360 85 14 194,565
N2ED HP 433 329 80 14 178,080
KM5G HP 244 73 57 54,207
N9RV HP 149 2 45 2 20,385
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABSSB
VE6POL @VE6JY HP 0 486 52 20 74,880
VE3BUC LP 0 70 210 3 6,090
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/10SSB
VA3KA HP 0 223 16 8 10,704
W5PR HP 0 185 16 8,880
VK2CZ HP 0 26 13 2 1,014
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/20CW
K2SX HP 88 0 16 4,224
K9NW LP 8 0 6 144
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/20SSB
M0GTO LP 0 30 11 2 990
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/80CW
LY2NXW LP 102 0 16 4,896
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/80Mixed
S53F LP 42 159 32 19,296
LY2FY HP 0 162 31 7 14,973 KTU RC
Band Breakdowns:
160 80 40 20 15
10
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
M/S
SP8YMM 037/000/011 84/000/025 264/000/040 447/000/000 502/000/000
246/000/000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABCW
SN7N (SP7
004/000/017 13/000/033 24/000/036 32/000/050 18/000/036 8/000/020
N1RR 006/000/003 33/000/016 58/000/016 131/000/016 165/000/017
129/000/016
VE3QAA 001/000/001 39/000/016 58/000/016 125/000/016 164/000/016
113/000/016
NY1S 000/000/000 4/000/004 33/000/014 109/000/015
135/000/016 86/000/016
VE1OP 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
/000/000
W4SAA 000/000/000 7/000/006 59/000/016 71/000/014 80/000/016
80/000/016
F6IRF 012/000/009 39/000/014 73/000/016
133/000/016 11/000/008 /000/000
AB2E 000/000/000 11/000/009 46/000/016 59/000/015 45/000/015
11/000/006
N6ZZ 000/000/000 /000/000 14/000/010 47/000/016 78/000/016
26/000/011
N4GG 000/000/000 1/000/001 31/000/015 54/000/015 64/000/016
/000/000
OM9ANL (F
000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
WN6K 000/000/000 /000/000 1/000/001 49/000/016 /000/000
/000/000
VE9DX 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 15/000/007
12/000/008
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABMixed
UA9CDC 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
/000/000
RD4M (UA4 031/000/013 98/000/016 169/000/016 335/000/016
332/000/016 /000/000
K3WW 005/000/005 42/003/016 64/000/016 102/112/016
117/165/016 74/080/016
N2ED 005/000/003 23/000/013 46/005/016 100/067/016
174/196/016 85/060/016
KM5G 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
/000/000
N9RV 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 34/000/014 83/020/016
32/000/015
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABSSB
VE6POL @V
000/000/000 /000/000 /016/011 /206/016 /241/016 /023/009
VE3BUC 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /002/006 /034/102
/034/102
Teams:
SP8YMM SP8GQU, SP8GWI, SP8LBK
RT9W RU9WX RX9WR RW9WW RV9WA UA9WFM & RA9WR
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 8 21:31:48 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 08Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204090331.g393Vmq11703@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 08Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCC
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
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Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
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Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
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Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
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Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
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Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
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Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCC
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
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Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
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Non-USA SOAB QRP
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
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Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
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Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
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Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
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Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
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Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB20 LP
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
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Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
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Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
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Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
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Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 8 21:28:53 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 08Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204090328.g393SrL11691@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 08Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
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USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(NI2W+VE3XAP 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
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USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
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USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
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USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
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USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
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USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
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USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
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USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
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USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
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USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
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USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
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USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
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USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
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USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
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USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
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USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
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USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
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USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
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USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
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USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
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USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
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USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
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USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
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USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
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KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From ve3pn at igs.net Tue Apr 9 05:15:21 2002
From: ve3pn@igs.net (PETER BARRON)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ten Tec Orion and limited SO2R
Message-ID: <000c01c1df7d$2acc6970$98f4a8c0@HOMEOFFICE>
Follow up on this topic from Ten Tec is
"Not if it is full duplex. While transmitting, the opposite receiver will
mute.
You can instantaneously transmit on the 'sub' frequency and the other
receiver will mute. You can control all of this via the computer
interface, and use two sets of band data and two linear amps (and
separate antennas) if desired."
Seems like the only advantage is the Two separate band outputs from
the Orion.
Peter
Ve3pn@igs.net
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ten Tec Orion and limited SO2R
Hans, K0HB mention of the ability of the orion to handle limited two radio
function can easily be accomplished now with Software defined radios SDR.
The Orion and the FT1000D allows limited SO2R and now the Orion allows a
second amp and antenna. Even back in the late 60's Hallicrafters SR2000 and
SR400 allowed two frequency operation at once so you could run on say 14155
and tune the band with the other VFO. Both allowed dual RX without switching
between the two VFO's. This can be done (less the dual duplex RX) with
most transceivers. My older FT980's allow me to work satellite on 21.230
and receive on 28.940.
SO2R is easy when you are Single band because there is usually no need for
another amp and antenna. Multi band SO2R is more complicated. Even the
logging software has to be set up properly to record the right rig and band.
On the writelog reflector a common complaint is that the wrong band or mode
was logged and how do you fix??
73 Dave K4JRB
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Tue Apr 9 10:02:21 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] (no subject)
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHCEMHDEAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
-0- snip
what's really important isn't the eQSL
"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real breakthrough.
73, ron wn3vaw
-0- snip
Yes. THAT is the central point.
>From what I can see, eQSL.cc, by using the double blind system, has
created the cross-referenced data. It's the access for award determination
that's the remaining roadblock.
Don't forget, eQSL.cc provides competition for ARRL in this arena. ARRL
is in no way motivated to work with the eQSL data. Indeed, it has proposed
a competitive response, in LotW.
73, Jim, N2EA
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Tue Apr 9 09:29:59 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <021c01c1df2b$27efcfa0$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204090805350.962-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
>
> I think we can accept, though, that if someone is really determined enough,
> they can fool the system -- and since people check the cards, mistakes
> happen and invalid cards are sometimes accepted (and good ones not). Be so
> as it may...
>
This always brings up a question with me. Why would someone want to fake
a QSL or a QSO on one for DXCC credit? I am an honest man and I don't
even have the slightest desire to do this. Maybe that is why I have a
hard time understanding those who would. Who are you really cheating if
you present a false card? Only yourself.
There could be a few who are just trying it to see if they can get away
with it - to "fool the system", as you said. I would guess that they care
so little about the DXCC program that they just want to see how far they
can stretch it.
I just received a QSL from a DXpedition which had QSO's on many bands
on it. I did notice that the person who filled it out by hand noted the
frequencies worked as "3.5" ... "7" ... "14" ... "18." ... "24" ... "28"
Notice the period after the "18" that wasn't on the other frequencies?
It's apparently there so no one can change it to "1.8" on the card.
> Look, the electronic QSL concept isn't neccesarily a bad one. eQSL.cc's
> implementation of it has, sadly, left a lot to be desired -- they may have
> been "first," but I sure wish they'd gotten it right instead.
>
> But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their printed
> eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
> "card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
> securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
> awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
> check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real breakthrough.
> And those of us who still feel the old fashioned "QSL card is the last
> courtesy of a QSO" mantra can still exchange cards either via paper or
> electronically as we so choose.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
I don't have anything against eQSL's. I still like the paper ones, though.
It's more fun to show them to non-hams once in a while. I've even gotten
a few people interested in ham radio by showing them DX cards.
One question about the LoTW project is what about the rare DX station who
doesn't have a computer and keeps paper logs? Is someone going to get his
logs and put them in digital format and send them to ARRL?
Just food for thought, in case there are any hungry minds this morning.
:-)
73, Zack W9SZ
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Tue Apr 9 14:42:08 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020409124208.013c6500@pop.vnet.net>
WN3VAW wrote:
>But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their printed
>eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
>"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
>securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
>awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
>check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real breakthrough.
I just uploaded ~37K of contest QSO's to eQSL for the past few
years and see no major security problems with the way eQSL is implemented.
In fact, it is actually more strict than I would be if I were answering
QSL's directly where I would recognize problems like "wrong band", "wrong
time" due to local time, "wrong date" for the contest, etc. eQSL does
make it difficult to diagnose these problems but you can always reject
the card and ask the sender to check his data again.
I totally agree with Ron's statement above. I am personally aware
of numerous attempts to submit false confirmations for 160 QSO's over the
years and the ultimate test of these is not the quality of the printing,
etc, but the QSO data which is in the log. If a QSO is in question, ARRL
has on several occasions contacted the QSL manager to request actual log
data to verify questionable QSL's. Making complete log data available will
make it VERY easy to catch erroneous confirmations and should improve the
integrity of the system currently used at ARRL. In fact, I suspect the
current system is not nearly as "clean" for most DXCC QSL's as it is for
160 confirmations which are checked at ARRL HQ with someone looking at
a greyline map to weed out obvious problem QSO's. eQSL and LotW should
make the system even better!
I feel eQSL and LotW are major steps in the right direction for
all of us. They will improve the integrity of awards and will especially
make life easier for those of us making many contest QSO's who may not
enjoy the QSL burden that comes with them.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From N5RP at pdq.net Tue Apr 9 10:16:50 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Internet packet feeds to other software
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020409091119.00b80c30@pop.pdq.net>
I could not find a consolidated source of information that outlined how to
get packet spots off of the Internet and have those spots fed into my NA
contest software, as well as feed any other software that might desire to
see a TNC as it's packet data collector. I use the following setup to grab
packet data for my DX4Windows software and for all DOS based contest software.
1)
I connect to the Internet for my packet spots using a program called
DX-Telnet, written by Fabrizio Sartini,
see: http://www.qsl.net/wd4ngb/telnet.htm
DX-Telnet has means for maintaining connection, re-connecting after
connections fail, and other niceties all built into the program.
I have used two methods for sending packet data to my main radio station
computer.
One method uses inter-computer communication within my home network.
The other (and better) method uses a spare computer (surplus laptop) to go
grab Internet packet data and then feed that data to an available COM port
on my main ham radio computer where I run contest software and my normal
day to day logging software.
I grab all of my packet spots using a high speed DSL connection via this
surplus laptop computer. That computer has to have the DX Telnet program on
it and two other necessary programs (UDPSEND & DXT4WIN), both of which are
included and sourced from Fabrizio.
Basically, the three programs that are needed to get Internet sourced
packet spot feeds from the laptop to my main station computer running NA or
DX 4 Windows are:
DX-Telnet - Gets the data from the Internet
DXT4WIN - Allows the main station computer to talk back to and into the
laptop machine that is acting as the pseudo TNC
UDPSEND - Allows the DX-Telnet collected data from my laptop to be fed
into my primary station computer COM port
On the packet connected computer (my laptop) I invoke UDPSEND, DXT4WIN, and
have these programs perform the rudiments of sending the DX-Telnet
collected data to a COM port on the laptop.
That laptop COM port is, in turn, connected by cable to a COM port on the
main station computer running the NA contest software or logging software.
Now then, you just configure the NA software or logging software as though
it were connected to a TNC, and the spots from the laptop are sent to the
main station computer COM port just like a normal TNC process.
After doing this setup of making an Internet grab computer feed into your
main radio station or contest computer, NA and my DX 4 Windows logging
software act as though they both have a TNC connected into the system, and
the packet spots are fed flawlessly.
This setup can feed packet spots to your computer for any program that
would normally use a TNC as its packet cluster data source.
2)
In addition to doing what I just outlined as what we might call part 1 of
the concept,
I will now lay out what we might refer to as part 2 of the concept.
That is the part where we customize the various programs to do what we
desire to accomplish.
As in the following:
UDPSEND -
In the setup for the UDPSEND program, you will have to "check" a box to
invoke the "CT Net Protocol" transmissions.
That tells the UDP program output transmissions to emulate a standard that
current DOS based contest softwares use.
DXT4WIN -
DXT4WIN does not require any boxes to be ticked, or any parameters to be set.
DX-Telnet -
aa)
DX-Telnet will require you to invoke the auxiliary COM port setup, and set
the parameters to the values that NA would normally expect to see from a
TNC such as proper COM port # and rate values of 9600,N,8,1.
For my situation, I use COM port #1 and 9600,N,8,1 parameters.
That simply tells DX-Telnet to send the info to a specified COM port on the
Internet collecting computer, and then forward that info out at parameter
value(s) that your main station computer software can read.
bb)
DX-Telnet will require you to invoke the "LINKS" parameters,
and set these values, as follows:
EXE Name = UDPSEND
Link Topic = UDP
Link Item = textin
That should do it for you.
Now then, you can use DX-Telnet with all of its filters, lights, Italian
accented announcements, dings and dongs features to go out, grab, keep
grabbing, etc. desired packet data from the variously available web sites
for same, and feed that info/data into any program that might desire to see
a TNC for its procurement process.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Tue Apr 9 16:06:39 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <200204091240.g39Ce6Al025891@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020409145049.00d23b00@pop.pacific.net.hk>
W7WHY asked how a traditional QSL with merely a computer generated label
could be more secure than an eQSL.
The DXCC Desk will check up on a card they suspect & will go to great lengths
to verify it. Perhaps an eQSL may appear to be no different than a
traditional one
to the layman, but after who knows how many cards have been processed by the
DXCC program, over the years it wouldn't surprise me they know what to look
for.
And from my experience, they certainly know a dodgy card when they see one.
73, BW2/VR2BrettGraham
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Tue Apr 9 16:20:21 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
In-Reply-To: <200204091240.g39Ce6Al025891@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020409144806.00d2eef0@pop.pacific.net.hk>
I may be QCWA material, though am still on the wrong side of 40 to have a
senior moment (or so I would like to think), but didn't ARRL used to give DXCC
credit in the past for those who worked a DX station that turned in a log
in the
ARRL DX test?
73, BW2/VR2BrettGraham
>From BobK8IA at aol.com Tue Apr 9 13:14:47 2002
From: BobK8IA@aol.com (BobK8IA@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
Message-ID: <89.163d19dc.29e46d77@aol.com>
>Ve5ZX wrote:
?
? ? All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
award for which it is considered to be a valid contact.
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----------------------------------------
This used to exist back in the 60s-70s when Bob White was running the DXCC
show.No software then, of course, but if ARRL had contest logs from both
parties you could get country credit.
Anyone know why/how they got away from that policy? I wouldnt think it would
be difficult to "re-implement", especially with Cabrillo logging!
73, Bob K8IA
Michigan USA
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>From k1ir at designet.com Tue Apr 9 14:23:24 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] (no subject)
Message-ID: <r0okp1xrmrzoj0m.090420021323@designet-jsi>
Fellow Contesters!
I am pleased to announce that the reins of YCCC leadership for 2002-2003 have
been transferred to a bold and brilliant new team:
Chris Terkla, N1XS - President
Art Holmes, W1RZF - Vice President
Don Toman, K2KQ - Activities Manager
Ed Parish, K1EP - Treasurer
Dennis Egan, NB1B - Secretary
We in New England [New York and a little bit of New Jersey, too] look forward
to another great year of exciting contest activity!
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From ei4hq at qsl.net Tue Apr 9 20:35:24 2002
From: ei4hq@qsl.net (Cormac, EI4HQ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204081603.g38G38Al008271@contesting.com>
<021c01c1df2b$27efcfa0$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <003701c1dff5$52e4ea40$0200a8c0@CormacGebruers>
Firstly thanks to all for answering the questions I posted in relation to
this thread on Saturday.
I emailed eQSL.cc and requested information on the "new" InBox situation.
Specifically I asked them about the strictness of the time match. The answer
I consider to be perfectly reasonable is that an acceptale match is one
where the times are within +/- 1 hour of each other. Sure if you're time
zones are screwed up then you might have a problem but otherwise I can't see
how that aspect of things would be a cause of upset for anyone. Everyone
does keep their logs (those that are required to...) in UTC... don't they?
A few general comments;
I'd consider how ARRL treats DXCC to be entirely up to them as its their
award. Hence the introduction, arrangements & management of LotW and their
acceptance/rejection or otherwise of eQSL.cc entirely up to them. If you
don't like what they're doing then don't apply for the award - otherwise
accept the rules as they make them...
I'm quite frankly amazed that US stations are not legally required to keep
logs anymore - no doubt it was debated high up and low down at the time but
seems nuts to me. How do I know that any US station I QSL has any idea I've
worked them - sounds like I could (feasibly) attempt random qsling and
probably get enough cards to claim WAS... almost worth trying as an
experiment :o) Also it must make enforcement & policing more difficult -
perhaps this is a good thing in the eyes of a certain portion of the ham
population ;o)
Those who QSL out of courtesy - there are many who appreciate your efforts
and I can see how the changes could cause inconvenience. However I suspect
anyone really serious about QSLs is still primarily in paper mode and will
be for sometime. eQSL is, at the end of the day, an "early implementer". No
doubt a consensus will be reached eventually. The amateur radio community is
no different to the world IT community - open standards etc. are a LONG time
coming and we're not there yet...
Cormac, EI4HQ
via buro, direct, eQSL.cc and any other way someone wants a QSL...
>From kr1g at hotmail.com Tue Apr 9 21:32:35 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
Message-ID: <F129N8zDo2QltZ4jN5u0000a31c@hotmail.com>
I think it is reasonable to expect LoTW to do this, although obviously not
in its first implementation.
There are all kinds of neat things eQSLing will make possible that we can
never think of.
Who thought the Internet would ever revolutionize shopping :)
73
Ted, KR1G
PS: BTW, once LoTW is up and running, I'm going for 5B+WAS - no way I have
the time to send out so many paper cards, even though I do love them.
>From: Maury Peiperl <MPeiperl@london.edu>
>To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
>
>
>
>
>
>Sylvan, that may be the single best idea I have ever heard in the DXCC /
>Awards area. You are talking about confirmed contacts; that is, contacts
>for which the League already has both logs and has compared them. Yes
>cards
>are nice and there is nothing like the look and feel of a good, rare one,
>but this doesn't do away with that; it merely supplements it with
>incontrovertible
>data provided by the amateurs themselves.
>
>
>
>I for one would even be willing to pay (within reason) for such a service.
> I could finally collect my 5BDXCC, which with two small kids and the
>other
>pressures of mid-life, I might otherwise never manage to get all the cards
>for.
>
>
>
>73
>
>Maury W3EF / G0UHK
>
>
>
>Ve5ZX wrote:
>
>
>
>
> All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
>contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
>award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
>
>
>
> ?required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests
>as well
>
>
>
> as more check logs! ... sylvan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>From TOMK5RC at aol.com Tue Apr 9 20:30:32 2002
From: TOMK5RC@aol.com (TOMK5RC@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Where are they Now?
Message-ID: <157.c070681.29e4d398@aol.com>
I am working on a presentation for the Visalia DX Convention called "Where
are they Now" featuring old and new photos of famous contesters and DXers. I
received a lot of input from this group the first time I posted a plea so I
am asking again. If you have any photos of contesters and DXers "then and
now" I would appreciate having email copies (jpeg preferred). I can scan in
regular photos, but have no facilities for converting 35 mm slides. If you
have any other interesting photos of contesters and DXers, please send those
also or direct me to web sites that contain photos. Please explain who is in
the photos!
I will make this presentation available for others to use after Visalia. It
will be in MS PowerPoint. My deadline is 4/20.
Thanks!
Tom, K5RC
Virginia City NV
>From k4bai at worldnet.att.net Tue Apr 9 23:21:02 2002
From: k4bai@worldnet.att.net (John T. Laney, III)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SWL Reports from DE0RAY on QSOs with K3WWP
Message-ID: <3CB3A18E.95C3AFF2@worldnet.att.net>
Hello all:
After receiving a large number of requests for SWL confirmations for
alleged QSOs between myself or others that I handle cards for, all QSOs
being with K3WWP, I have confirmed with John, K3WWP, that his logs are
available on his website. He had already suspected the possibility from
other reports, but it is clear now to me that DE0RAY is sending reports
of QSOs in contests made by K3WWP and available on his website. There
is no way that DE0RAY is able to follow K3WWP to three bands in one
contest for QSOs at widely spaced times with W4AN when John is running 5
watts with indoor antennas and is doing almost exclusively S&P. I
suggest that any such SWL cards be returned as unconfirmed due to the
availability of the logs on the internet.
73,
John, K4BAI/8P9HT/8P9Z.
>From W4EF at dellroy.com Tue Apr 9 21:11:36 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Mike)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <1.5.4.32.20020409124208.013c6500@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <09c201c1e03d$6d2717f0$6501a8c0@1800XP>
Wow, I am really having a hard time fathoming the pathology
of someone who would fake a QSL confirmation for 160 and
then submit it for award credit. Thats seriously twisted, but I
guess it shouldn't surprise me given what I hear going on in
pileups these days.
BTW, on a related note, would it be considered unethical
to alter a QSL to correct a mistake made by the QSL manager?
Case in point is a card I received which showed "18 MHz" in
the frequency block. The card I sent to the manager with the
"PSE QSL" request was for a 160 meter contact. My card
showed "1.8 MHz" in the frequency block. The QSL manager
presumeably verified that I was in the log since he sent me
a return QSL. I know I didn't work the station on 18 MHz
because I distinctly remember working the station on 160
meters at that time, and my log shows a match with everything
on his card except the frequency. My guess is that the manager
wasn't watching and put the "dot" on top of part of the "1" or
part of the "8". Is it ethical for me alter the card and add the dot
in, or should I spend an extra 2 bucks and request another card
to stay on the moral high ground? Would altering the card (to
correct it) inch me closer to the "twisted pathology" of the guy
who knowingly fabricates a confirmation for a QSO that he
knows didn't take place?
Sorry that this is a little of topic for CQ-Contest, but I couldn't
resist.
73 de Mike, W4EF................
---- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tippett" <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> WN3VAW wrote:
>
> >But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their
printed
> >eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
> >"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
> >securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
> >awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
> >check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real
breakthrough.
>
> I just uploaded ~37K of contest QSO's to eQSL for the past few
> years and see no major security problems with the way eQSL is implemented.
> In fact, it is actually more strict than I would be if I were answering
> QSL's directly where I would recognize problems like "wrong band", "wrong
> time" due to local time, "wrong date" for the contest, etc. eQSL does
> make it difficult to diagnose these problems but you can always reject
> the card and ask the sender to check his data again.
>
> I totally agree with Ron's statement above. I am personally aware
> of numerous attempts to submit false confirmations for 160 QSO's over the
> years and the ultimate test of these is not the quality of the printing,
> etc, but the QSO data which is in the log. If a QSO is in question, ARRL
> has on several occasions contacted the QSL manager to request actual log
> data to verify questionable QSL's. Making complete log data available
will
> make it VERY easy to catch erroneous confirmations and should improve the
> integrity of the system currently used at ARRL. In fact, I suspect the
> current system is not nearly as "clean" for most DXCC QSL's as it is for
> 160 confirmations which are checked at ARRL HQ with someone looking at
> a greyline map to weed out obvious problem QSO's. eQSL and LotW should
> make the system even better!
>
> I feel eQSL and LotW are major steps in the right direction for
> all of us. They will improve the integrity of awards and will especially
> make life easier for those of us making many contest QSO's who may not
> enjoy the QSL burden that comes with them.
>
> 73, Bill W4ZV
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From k7qq at netzero.net Tue Apr 9 23:59:37 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] eQSL QSO Times
Message-ID: <000201c1e046$c4487520$d22bfa43@computer>
Quack
I had one eQsl rejection come thru that the only problem with the data for a
SS QSO was the time was off by 1 (ONE) minute. Now this is getting to the
redicilous, I don't need the confirmation but this one Q the guy sent me
log data and I replied.
Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cormac, EI4HQ" <ei4hq@qsl.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 19:35
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> Firstly thanks to all for answering the questions I posted in relation to
> this thread on Saturday.
>
> I emailed eQSL.cc and requested information on the "new" InBox situation.
> Specifically I asked them about the strictness of the time match. The
answer
> I consider to be perfectly reasonable is that an acceptale match is one
> where the times are within +/- 1 hour of each other. Sure if you're time
> zones are screwed up then you might have a problem but otherwise I can't
see
> how that aspect of things would be a cause of upset for anyone. Everyone
> does keep their logs (those that are required to...) in UTC... don't they?
>
> A few general comments;
>
> I'd consider how ARRL treats DXCC to be entirely up to them as its their
> award. Hence the introduction, arrangements & management of LotW and their
> acceptance/rejection or otherwise of eQSL.cc entirely up to them. If you
> don't like what they're doing then don't apply for the award - otherwise
> accept the rules as they make them...
>
> I'm quite frankly amazed that US stations are not legally required to keep
> logs anymore - no doubt it was debated high up and low down at the time
but
> seems nuts to me. How do I know that any US station I QSL has any idea
I've
> worked them - sounds like I could (feasibly) attempt random qsling and
> probably get enough cards to claim WAS... almost worth trying as an
> experiment :o) Also it must make enforcement & policing more difficult -
> perhaps this is a good thing in the eyes of a certain portion of the ham
> population ;o)
>
> Those who QSL out of courtesy - there are many who appreciate your efforts
> and I can see how the changes could cause inconvenience. However I suspect
> anyone really serious about QSLs is still primarily in paper mode and will
> be for sometime. eQSL is, at the end of the day, an "early implementer".
No
> doubt a consensus will be reached eventually. The amateur radio community
is
> no different to the world IT community - open standards etc. are a LONG
time
> coming and we're not there yet...
>
> Cormac, EI4HQ
> via buro, direct, eQSL.cc and any other way someone wants a QSL...
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Wed Apr 10 09:31:26 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] eQSL QSO Times
In-Reply-To: <000201c1e046$c4487520$d22bfa43@computer>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204100824390.5885-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Rex Maner wrote:
> Quack
> I had one eQsl rejection come thru that the only problem with the data for a
> SS QSO was the time was off by 1 (ONE) minute. Now this is getting to the
> redicilous, I don't need the confirmation but this one Q the guy sent me
> log data and I replied.
> Rex
That's just stupid. It will probably contribute greatly to the downfall
of eQSL.
I'm sure that we, as contesters, don't always have our clocks synchronized
to the same exact second. And every DXpedition I've received QSL's from
sent me a card, even if the times were quite a bit off. Probably, if
you're sitting on an Antarctic rock, freezing your tuchis, you don't
particularly care how exact your clock is.
QST had a note (I think in the "How's DX?" column) a while back about the
"Martti Laine rule". If the callsign logged by the DX station was off by
one character (for instance, if I got logged as W0SZ or W9SG) and the
station logged did not submit a card in a reasonable time or did not
contest the QSO, I would get the card.
I wonder how that will fit in with eQSL and LoTW?
73, Zack W9SZ
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Wed Apr 10 14:52:21 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <09c201c1e03d$6d2717f0$6501a8c0@1800XP>
References: <1.5.4.32.20020409124208.013c6500@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020410134702.00c66700@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
Mike,
If you are going to use the card in question for DXCC,
or probably any other award purpose, then just realize
that if the ARRL catches it, not only will the card be
returned, you could be banned from DXCC altogether.
I sent a card for Don Search to look at and say yea
or nay one time because it was a station operating
portable from another country and it had been written in pencil.
He said it was ok so I sent it in with my next update.
Just be careful.
73, Tom K5II
At 20:11 04/09/02 -0700, Mike wrote:
>Wow, I am really having a hard time fathoming the pathology
>of someone who would fake a QSL confirmation for 160 and
>then submit it for award credit. Thats seriously twisted, but I
>guess it shouldn't surprise me given what I hear going on in
>pileups these days.
>
>BTW, on a related note, would it be considered unethical
>to alter a QSL to correct a mistake made by the QSL manager?
>Case in point is a card I received which showed "18 MHz" in
>the frequency block. The card I sent to the manager with the
>"PSE QSL" request was for a 160 meter contact. My card
>showed "1.8 MHz" in the frequency block. The QSL manager
>presumeably verified that I was in the log since he sent me
>a return QSL. I know I didn't work the station on 18 MHz
>because I distinctly remember working the station on 160
>meters at that time, and my log shows a match with everything
>on his card except the frequency. My guess is that the manager
>wasn't watching and put the "dot" on top of part of the "1" or
>part of the "8". Is it ethical for me alter the card and add the dot
>in, or should I spend an extra 2 bucks and request another card
>to stay on the moral high ground? Would altering the card (to
>correct it) inch me closer to the "twisted pathology" of the guy
>who knowingly fabricates a confirmation for a QSO that he
>knows didn't take place?
>
>Sorry that this is a little of topic for CQ-Contest, but I couldn't
>resist.
>
>73 de Mike, W4EF................
>
>---- Original Message -----
>From: "Bill Tippett" <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
>To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:42 AM
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> > WN3VAW wrote:
> >
> > >But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their
>printed
> > >eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
> > >"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
> > >securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
> > >awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
> > >check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real
>breakthrough.
> >
> > I just uploaded ~37K of contest QSO's to eQSL for the past few
> > years and see no major security problems with the way eQSL is implemented.
> > In fact, it is actually more strict than I would be if I were answering
> > QSL's directly where I would recognize problems like "wrong band", "wrong
> > time" due to local time, "wrong date" for the contest, etc. eQSL does
> > make it difficult to diagnose these problems but you can always reject
> > the card and ask the sender to check his data again.
> >
> > I totally agree with Ron's statement above. I am personally aware
> > of numerous attempts to submit false confirmations for 160 QSO's over the
> > years and the ultimate test of these is not the quality of the printing,
> > etc, but the QSO data which is in the log. If a QSO is in question, ARRL
> > has on several occasions contacted the QSL manager to request actual log
> > data to verify questionable QSL's. Making complete log data available
>will
> > make it VERY easy to catch erroneous confirmations and should improve the
> > integrity of the system currently used at ARRL. In fact, I suspect the
> > current system is not nearly as "clean" for most DXCC QSL's as it is for
> > 160 confirmations which are checked at ARRL HQ with someone looking at
> > a greyline map to weed out obvious problem QSO's. eQSL and LotW should
> > make the system even better!
> >
> > I feel eQSL and LotW are major steps in the right direction for
> > all of us. They will improve the integrity of awards and will especially
> > make life easier for those of us making many contest QSO's who may not
> > enjoy the QSL burden that comes with them.
> >
> > 73, Bill W4ZV
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
>
>
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 09:07:21 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Oklahoma QSO Party - Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101507.g3AF7LP13048@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Oklahoma QSO Party - Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 30, 2002
E-mail logs to: w5atv@cox.net
Mail logs to:
OKDX Assn
c/o David Ratliff, W5ATV
3215 W. 40th
Tulsa, OK 74107
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
One of the new benefits of the Web based scoring pages.
Easy generation of reports for smaller test.
Support for the smaller tests. Thanks go to Bruce, WA7BNM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsDig Qs hr Score Club
SOAB HP
K5YAA 217 609 0 20 92,365 OKDX
K4BAI 17 31 0 3,164 SECC
LY3BA 7 10 0 328 Kaunas University
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 09:11:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Virginia QSO Party - Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101511.g3AFBQF13059@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Virginia QSO Party - Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 15, 2002
E-mail logs to: ks4ii@arrl.net
Mail logs to:
VA QSO Party
Call Box 59
Sterling, VA 20167
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
I know this summary is overkill and I won't send out such in
the future. Just testing the process.
Thanks for your patience.
dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph Qs hr Score Club
M/M HP
K4JA(W3BP) 312 1370 23 406,477
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph Qs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
K4OAQ 300 0 11 72,428
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 09:51:09 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 SP DX Contest - All Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101551.g3AFp9H13092@localhost.localdomain>
2002 SP DX Contest - All Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 30, 2002
E-mail logs to: spdxc-logs@pzk.org.pl
Mail logs to:
Polski Zwiazek Krotkofalowcow
SPDX Contest Committee
PO Box 320
00-950 Warszawa
Poland
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
(Summary results are based on data reported via 3830 Submission Web Page)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph Qs Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
SP8YMM 690 890 216 24 780,192
RT9W 590 906 95 426,360 Bashkirian DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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All SOABCW HP
SN7N(SP7PS) 1013 0 192 24 361,728
N1RR 522 0 84 19 131,544 YCCC
VE3QAA 500 0 81 18 121,500 CAPITAL REGION DX CL
VE1OP 363 0 63 15 68,607
W4SAA 297 0 68 60,588 FCG
N6ZZ 165 0 53 26,235
N4GG 150 0 47 3 21,150 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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All SOABCW LP
NY1S 367 0 65 13 71,175
F6IRF 268 0 63 17 50,652 Yota Sawe DX group
AB2E 172 0 61 10 31,476 FRC
UA9FM 134 0 51 6 20,502
OM9ANL(F6FNL) 113 0 31 6 10,509
WN6K 50 0 17 2 2,550 SCCC
VE9DX 27 0 15 1,215
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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All SOABMixed HP
UA9CDC 333 600 91 17 254,709 Ural Contest Group
RD4M(UA4LU) 403 552 77 19 220,605
K3WW 404 360 85 14 194,565 FRC
N2ED 433 329 80 14 178,080 FRC
G0DVJ/P 122 380 54 13 81,000
KM5G 244 73 57 54,207
N9RV 149 2 45 2 20,385 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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All SOABMixed LP
SP2DWG 554 449 165 330,165
YL2PN 66 16 24 4 5,904 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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VE6POL(@VE6JY) 0 486 52 20 74,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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VE3BUC 0 70 210 3 6,090
VE7AVV 0 78 22 11 5,148
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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VA3KA 0 223 16 8 10,704 Capital Region DX
W5PR 0 185 16 8,880 TDXS
VK2CZ 0 26 13 2 1,014
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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All SOSB/20CW HP
K2SX 88 0 16 4,224 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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All SOSB/20CW LP
K9NW 8 0 6 1 144 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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All SOSB/20SSB LP
9A7P(9A6XX) 0 70 11 1 2,310
M0GTO 0 30 11 2 990
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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All SOSB/80CW LP
LY2NXW 102 0 16 4,896
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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All SOSB/80Mixed HP
LY2FY 52 110 31 7 14,973 KTU RC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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All SOSB/80Mixed LP
S53F 42 159 32 19,296
Operators:
RT9W RA9WR,RU9WX,RV9WA,RW9WW,RX9WR,UA9WFM
SP8YMM SP8GQU,SP8GWI,SP8LBK
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 10:14:02 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101614.g3AGE2213117@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCC
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCC
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
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Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
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Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
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Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
L5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
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Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
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Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
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Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
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Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
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Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
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Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
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Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 10:16:25 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101616.g3AGGPO13126@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
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USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
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USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
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USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
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USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
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USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
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USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
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USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
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USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
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USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
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USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
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USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
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USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
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USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
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USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
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USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
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USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
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USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
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USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
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USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
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USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From gm3woj at talk21.com Wed Apr 10 21:58:13 2002
From: gm3woj@talk21.com (Chris Tran GM3WOJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Internet packet feeds to other software
Message-ID: <003701c1e0ca$22ef2c80$668efea9@chris.tranbtinternet.com>
Hi Bob et al
I've been experimenting connecting NA to a DXCluster node
using Telnet - K1TTT's WinTelnetX 4.11
The configuration below works successfully for NA 10.54, so
I guess should be OK for NA 10.55, which I have not had time
to try yet. I'm using 2 PCs networked with NA, and a third PC
running WinTelnetX under W98. For simplicity the set-up
below uses COM1 on the Windows PC, and COM1 on one of the
networked NA PCs. The DXCluster node I use (GB7BIG) is
running AR-Cluster software.
---------------------------------------
Connect together the COM ports on the 2 PCs (1 x NA PC
and 1 x WinTelnetX PC) using a serial cable where pin2 at one end
connects to pin3 at the other end and vice versa.
-------------------------------------------
NA 10.54
Under 'Config', select f4 Serial Port Setup :
port adr baud device IRQ
COM1 3F8 9600 TNC 4
Select f5 Equipment Configuration :
TNC Type : LOCAL
----------------------------------------------
WinTelnetx 4.11
COM
Select - Add new ComPort :
Port COM1
Baud 9600
Bits 8
Parity None
Stop bits 1
Flow RTSCTS
Name COM
Is TNC False
Buffer 32000
Keep alive time 0
Port Data Type CT User
Dupes 0
CR/LF 1
TEL
Select - Add new Network - Connect :
Host name or IP marnet.dns2go.com
Port number 23
Name TEL
Is TNC False
Buffer 32000
Keep alive time 0
Port Data Type Cluster User
Mycall INET
Antiloop Px <
Dupes 0
CR/LF 2
Prompt call: Response GM3WOJ
Add - Routes COM <-> TEL 2-way
--------------------------------------------
Hope this helps anyone who's trying to do the
same thing - the advantage of this over DXTelnet
is that only 2 pieces of software are running.
73
Chris GM3WOJ
>From ei4hq at qsl.net Wed Apr 10 23:28:54 2002
From: ei4hq@qsl.net (Cormac, EI4HQ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] eQSL QSO Times
References: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204100824390.5885-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <001601c1e0d6$b876c860$0200a8c0@CormacGebruers>
I've received several [off-line] responses to my email about eQSL time
matching for QSO's - some quite entertaining and all in the right spirit I
hasten to add!
A number of them highlighted problems with the time matching - it certainly
doesn't appear that eQSL is giving the +/1 hr leeway that they suggests it
should be in several situations - whether its a glitch or something else is
afoot I don't yet know.
I'm going to mention this to them tonight in a follow up email (no specifics
just a general observation that people are having problems with it) and see
how they respond.
EI4HQ
>From ik2bcp at hamlan.org Wed Apr 10 23:41:09 2002
From: ik2bcp@hamlan.org (Guido Tedeschi, ik2bcp)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] An optocoupled isolator for Yaesu CAT
References: <000201c1e046$c4487520$d22bfa43@computer>
Message-ID: <00c301c1e0d0$2038fe70$20a3862c@Main>
Hello All,
I designed a simple optocoupled isolator for connecting the CAT
interface of our Yaesu FT1000MP MK5 to a PC.
The optocoupling avoids electrical and RF problems that you can have with a
simple RS232C cable in a contest environment.
If anyone is interested, go to http://www.hamlan.org/tech/tech.htm
Ciao and 73
Guido, ik2bcp / iu2r / ab9dg
>From ns3t at arrl.net Wed Apr 10 21:58:16 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
Message-ID: <003301c1e0f4$0a0dc080$0000a398@COMPUTER>
After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB contest over
the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
to those in charge of the WPX contest.
I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
More later.
Jamie NS3T
>From N6HC at aol.com Wed Apr 10 23:29:06 2002
From: N6HC@aol.com (N6HC@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL QSO Times
Message-ID: <18b.63b5eba.29e64ef2@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/10/02 1:59:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
w9sz@prairienet.org writes:
> QST had a note (I think in the "How's DX?" column) a while back about the
> "Martti Laine rule". If the callsign logged by the DX station was off by
> one character (for instance, if I got logged as W0SZ or W9SG) and the
> station logged did not submit a card in a reasonable time or did not
> contest the QSO, I would get the card.
>
I wish that the ZL9CI expedition followed the "Martti Laine rule". I got my
QSL card returned for a SSB contact because they had N5HC instead of N6HC in
their log at the exact time that I worked them! They refused to confirm my
contact! What a bunch of anal compulsives. I wonder if they ever got a QSL
from N5HC?
With best regards,
Arnie
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>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Wed Apr 10 23:32:36 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
Message-ID: <b4.9baaf49.29e64fc4@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/11/2002 2:09:06 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
ns3t@arrl.net writes:
> I again found evidence of
> disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
> to those in charge of the WPX contest.
>
Jamie,
I too am appaled at the thought of self-spotting or even disguised
self-spotting.
However, I am curious why you will be forwarding any findings of your
analysis to "those in charge of the WPX contest". Have you been designated
by the contest sponsors to do this analysis and report your findings, or are
you self appointed in this role? If you have been hired by the contest
sponsors to report your findings, I would like to see the criteria on which
you will base your judgement outlined in the contest rules. If you are self
appointed, I'd suggest you find something better to do. You are getting
yourself into a big rat trap, in my opinion!
What is the point of reporting any findings? Will those cited be
disqualified? And how will you really determine what is legitimate, but
frequently repeated spotting, during the contest vs. malicious self-spotting.
I for one do a lot of packet Assisted contest operating. It is my favorite
mode of contesting. Many times I will spot a DX station over and over when I
tune across them. I do this especially late in the contest when activity
waines for the DX station. I am alway hopeful that my spotting will bring on
those Q's on a band or mode previously missed by others. This is especially
true for Sweepstakes spotting.
Let me explain. Take a contest regular, such as HC8N. What is the harm in
spotting HC8N many times over on each band as you tune across him? The
intent is do drive traffic to him. Of course!
I'd appreciate your comments.
73, Geo...
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
<A HREF="http://www.consultpr.com/";>www.consultPR.com</A>
<A HREF="http://www.fs9000.com";>www.fs9000.com</A>
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>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 11 06:58:07 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXSpider DX Cluster manual
Message-ID:
<20020411055808.46.c002-h012.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
I have posted the manual (in PDF) for the DXSpider
DX Cluster software on the YCCC website (under menu
item: Resources)
http://www.yccc.org/Resources/DXCluster/dxspider.pdf
(Thanks to Ken, K1EA, for the file)
73 Mike N2MG
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From f5nly at free.fr Thu Apr 11 18:07:11 2002
From: f5nly@free.fr (F5NLY)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
References: <003301c1e0f4$0a0dc080$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Message-ID: <002201c1e16a$8f956480$915e933e@default>
Wow, interesting to see some sounds of "auto-spotting"... a point read in
WPX rules.
73 Lee.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jamie Dupree
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:58 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB contest over
the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
to those in charge of the WPX contest.
I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
More later.
Jamie NS3T
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>From widelitz at gte.net Thu Apr 11 09:03:07 2002
From: widelitz@gte.net (Ken Widelitz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team
U.A. E.
In-Reply-To: <01c1e14c$ddb6e6c0$LocalHost@default>
Message-ID: <BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>
So now you are selecting a station designer and letting him bring in his
hired guns to operate for him? Does he get to bring his towers and antennas
with him?
Its your stadium, your football, your rules, but this one makes no sense.
73, Ken, K6LA
>From david.e.burger at au.pwcglobal.com Fri Apr 12 12:02:31 2002
From: david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com (david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
Message-ID: <OFF871A305.4C75F0AD-ONCA256B99.0004E8D0@aap.pwcinternal.com>
I have never been able to use spotting in any contests, as generally my
contest station is out of range of convention carrier networks, but was
amazed to see I had been spotted over 20 times - and by people I do not
know - bar one.
I understand there is an Assisted Class in many contests, and they can use
the spottingnetwork and whatever quality (or quantity) that may bring.
The real issue is self spotting as mentioned in the rules - so if you saw a
VK8AA spot by VK2CZ then that would be grounds for disqualification as I
hold both calls.
Leave it to the WPX organisers to do proper data mining and come up with
their decisions.
David VK8AA / VK2CZ
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>From artinian at siol.net Fri Apr 12 09:34:35 2002
From: artinian@siol.net (Marijan Miletic, S56A)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Crown Plaza Dayton 17. 5. for KH1 crew
Message-ID: <009d01c1e1fc$e2cf5010$0100a8c0@S56A>
Any spare room available at Dayton Crown Plaza for KH1 returning crew led by
YT1AD?
Direct answers to artinian@siol.net would be appreciated until April 19th.
73 de Mario, S56A, N1YU
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>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Fri Apr 12 15:29:15 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ES OPEN on April 20th!
References: <BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>
Message-ID: <00a001c1e215$47457750$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Hallo dear friends and contesters,
I would like to invite you to participate in ES OPEN HF CHAMPIONSHIPS that will
take place on next Saturday, April 20th, 0500 to 0859 UTC. It is an interesting
short HF Contest on Saturday morning on 80 and 40 meters and there will be many
ES stations in the air! The best places will be awarded with beautiful trophies
from ERAU. You can also easily fulfil the requirements for ESTONIA AWARD. We
hope very much for active participation also from Western and Southern Europe
and even from other continents - You are very welcome!
NEW "COMPUTER FRIENDLY" RULES AND 2001 RESULTS are now available from:
http://www.erau.ee/modules.php?op=modload&name=Info&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=68&newlang=eng
You can also find TR LOG CONFIGURATION FILES FOR ES OPEN from the web site
above!!! TR LOG CAN BE EASILY USED FOR LOGGING NOW!!! Other logging programs
fit also well with new rules!
You can download TR Files directly from:
http://www.erau.ee/esopen.zip
Rules are new, more interesting and very easy now:
Contest takes place on 80 and 40m at the same time and in both modes.
There are 4 one hour periods: 0500 - 0559, 0600 - 0659, 0700 - 0759, 0800 -
0859 UTC.
You can work each station two times in one period regardless of mode - once on
40m and once on 80m. Thus 8 times in total during the contest.
Non ES stations can work only ES stations.
Each CW QSO gives 2 points and each SSB QSO gives 1 point.
Multipliers are ES region prefixes on each band and mode - thus maximum 40 for
A, D and F classes and 20 for B and C classes.
Report: RST + QSO number
Logs should be sent to esopen@erau.ee
Please check ERAU web site above for complete Rules and results from previous
years!
Please forward that info also to other fellow hams in your region who are
interested in contesting!
Hope very much to see you all in ES OPEN!
73
Tonno
ES5TV
ERAU HF MANAGER
es5tv@erau.ee
www.erau.ee
p.s. Please contact me for any questions and comments or if you want me to send
you TR Files via e-mail!
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>From k3mm at comcast.net Fri Apr 12 11:20:35 2002
From: k3mm@comcast.net (k3mm@comcast.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 -
Team U.A. E.
References: <BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>
Message-ID: <00f201c1e22d$3683d660$6400a8c0@Home>
Sure it does....money talks...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Widelitz" <widelitz@gte.net>
To: <ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi>; "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:03 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team
U.A. E.
> So now you are selecting a station designer and letting him bring in his
> hired guns to operate for him? Does he get to bring his towers and
antennas
> with him?
>
> Its your stadium, your football, your rules, but this one makes no sense.
>
> 73, Ken, K6LA
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From geoiii at kkn.net Fri Apr 12 10:42:27 2002
From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III - K5TR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team
U.A. E.
In-Reply-To: <BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>; from Ken Widelitz
on Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 08:03:07AM -0700
References: <01c1e14c$ddb6e6c0$LocalHost@default>
<BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>
Message-ID: <20020412094227.F15721@loja.kkn.net>
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 08:03:07AM -0700, Ken Widelitz wrote:
> So now you are selecting a station designer and letting him bring in his
> hired guns to operate for him? Does he get to bring his towers and antennas
> with him?
>
> Its your stadium, your football, your rules, but this one makes no sense.
The team selection criteria was spelled out by the WRTC 2002
folks on June 5th 2001.
You can find it here:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/teams1.htm
This team would appear to be:
"The Organizer's Wild Card Team" as listed under the Special Teams section.
I dont see a problem with this - they are only doing what they planned to do.
Besides N6ZZ and K1ZM are compenent operators.
--
George Fremin III - K5TR
geoiii@kkn.net
http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Fri Apr 12 12:19:59 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest spots/this weekends antenna work
Message-ID: <01d801c1e235$82fdcde0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Like K5KG I find myself using packet during several contests and whenever I
tune past a station as he signs I type in his callsign...if it is a dupe
rather than just F11 I hit Alt-F3 (think that is it) to spot that station to
the cluster...mebbe the next guy will not stop there as it pops up on his
band map! I know I will spot the same guy many times during a contest...but
I do not keep mental note of this - that is what the machines are for.
This is not a slam on your observations...I find them interesting and the
thought of self spotting makes me sick...kind of like the unqiue principal
though - it should only be used as a POSSIBLE indicator of foul play... if a
guy gets spotted a lot more power to him as long as he ain't doin' it...he
is a "beacon" which ultimately your winners should be - never knew anyone
who S&P'd their way to #1!
In case you were getting ready to tune up for the next major contest - it is
the Florida QSO Party on April 27 & 28 - tweak your antennas for max gain
into Florida - we will be waiting for you! Follow the mobile teams as they
amass QSOs criss-crossing Florida.
15 days until FQP 2K2 - Florida fixed stations and mobiles please check into
the website and notify NS4W of your plans to activate which county(ies).
Check out the website at:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp/
Most of the counties have turned from Green to Orange - looks like more
clean sweeps will be available this year! Handsome certificates and plaques
are awarded each year - check out last years results and the rules and
records for the FQP at the above site - DEFINITELY READ THE EXCELLENT
WRITEUP BY K1TO, contest log crunching don't get any better!
FQP 2K2 - thanks to YOU we're running 'em!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
Florida Contest Group - sponsors of the Florida QSO Party
>From ddddd at attbi.com Fri Apr 12 10:06:09 2002
From: ddddd@attbi.com (Dave Tucker)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
Message-ID: <B8DC5400.3792%ddddd@attbi.com>
Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like to set
the record
straight for one and all
I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX whenever I was
in S&P
mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many were dx,
many were
domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O numerous times
is in
no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can only spot a
station
once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say, that's my
favorite band.
NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact was in
friendly
competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East and West
coast
stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed because I
didn't happen
to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I appreciated
the spots
that others posted.
Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need this crap
in our hobby.
Dave Tucker KA6BIM
Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
"After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
contest over
the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
to those in charge of the WPX contest.
I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
More later.
Jamie NS3T"
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Fri Apr 12 13:53:40 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] self-spotting
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEAJDFAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
Folks,
Self-spotting is just one more 'difficult to administer' situation,
where there is opportunity for deception, and no readily apparent
solution.
I would recommend keeping it simple.
If you are single op....you shouldn't be assisted, period.
If you're on an expedition, your home call shouldn't be calling
you out, as it suggests you're assisted by the folks at home.
If you are either m/m, m/s, or SOA, then you're assisted, anyway.
A socially accepted norm for self spotting ought to be developed..
say once or twice an hour, for discussion purposes.
The possibility of someone cloaking themselves as you, and spotting
you just to disqualify you, exists. There was recent evidence of it
coming out of EU on the CQDXirc site. How to protect against it?
Then comes the really interesting part....all of your club buddies
decide to 'help' you by calling you out early and often, so your
expedition can set a new record. More difficult to track and
administer...and possibly done out of ignorance or genuine good
will. The solution? Raise the penalty, so nobody can fail to be
aware of it. Castration might be on the extreme side....
and it would increase the risk of having a flock of dx coming back to
an increasing population of "yl's". So maybe the contest organizers
should contemplate enabling a "protest" scenario, as is done in
sailboat racing. DQ the entire club, AND expedition, if there is
even the suspicion of collusive behavior. The burden of detection is
placed on the contestants. File protest at the end of the race.
Sponsors get to be the judges.
There are significant differences in prop times among packet systems.
So it's possible for three or four guys to spot HC8N around the same
time, while being unaware of the OTHER guys who spotted. And not all
packet systems are linked during contests. Makes the problem even
knottier.
The alternative? No rule. No limit. Packet is...whatever the
bandwidth will support. But SO still can't use it. That's easiest to
administer.
Jim, N2EA
>From ad1c at yahoo.com Fri Apr 12 12:16:24 2002
From: ad1c@yahoo.com (Jim Reisert)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest spots/this weekends antenna work
In-Reply-To: <01d801c1e235$82fdcde0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20020412181624.42134.qmail@web13602.mail.yahoo.com>
--- Jim White <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> Like K5KG I find myself using packet during several contests and whenever I
> tune past a station as he signs I type in his callsign...if it is a dupe
> rather than just F11 I hit Alt-F3 (think that is it) to spot that station to
> the cluster...mebbe the next guy will not stop there as it pops up on his
> band map! I know I will spot the same guy many times during a contest...but
> I do not keep mental note of this - that is what the machines are for.
The "machines" also have a band map which will tell you if the station has been
spotted recently. I don't spot stations that are still in my band map. This
keeps the number of redundant spots down.
73 - Jim AD1C
=====
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>From k6iii at juno.com Fri Apr 12 19:18:01 2002
From: k6iii@juno.com (k6iii@juno.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
Message-ID: <20020412.181803.-354851.2.k6iii@juno.com>
Good solid and reasonable reply, Dave. I saw many of your spots and
appreciated them. I too spotted many friends so our NCCC guys could find
them; many more than once. I don't see the point ns3t is trying to make.
Certainly self-spotting is contrary to the rules, but spotting other
stations, no mater how many times is not against the rules. I wonder
where ns3t was observing these spots; perhaps some telnet node somewhere,
and what is his evidence (and criteria) for determing a self-spot has
occurred. Rather annoying to make this accusations without supporting
evidence.
de Jerry/k6iii
San Jose, CA
On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:06:09 -0800 Dave Tucker <ddddd@attbi.com> writes:
Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like
to set the record straight for one and all
I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX
whenever I was in S&P mode. I was very active and probably sent over
350 spots. Many were dx, many were domestic. Some more than once. That
I happened to spot NR6O numerous times is in no way a violation of any
rule. Where does it state that you can only spot a station once? <<<
snip >>>
Dave Tucker KA6BIM
>
>
>
> Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
>
> "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> contest over
> the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with
> the
> reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
> disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be
> forwarded
> to those in charge of the WPX contest.
>
> I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that
> frequently
> spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say
> that
> they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest;
> some
> of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
>
> MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
>
> 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
>
> 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
>
> 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
>
> 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
>
> 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
>
> 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
>
> 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
>
> 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
>
> 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
>
> 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
>
>
> More later.
>
> Jamie NS3T"
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>From ki9a at aol.com Fri Apr 12 15:50:42 2002
From: ki9a@aol.com (ki9a@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots-getting old!
Message-ID: <2DC7111B.73CBF469.00003FFE@aol.com>
C'mon guys. this tread is getting real old!
Here it is:
1) self spotting is illegal. Don't do it.
2) spotting others is OK. Do it. There are no limits. Deal with it.
I have recently started using packet during contests, it makes it a bit more
intersting for us little pistols. Yeah, damn right I spot my buddies. Show me
in the rules where I can't. I also spot guys who I don't even know, but I do
know they are out there busting their butts during any given weekend. Then,
there are the rare mults that I spot.
If someone has enough time to go over THOUSANDS of WPX spots, then post them
according to who spotted who, they really,really need to get a life!
If you don't like packet, don't use it. Period.
73-Chuck KI9A
>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 12 12:23:30 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PACKET AND SPOTTING
Message-ID: <02b401c1e257$87f81860$5a2afea9@sbcglobal.net>
I read with great amusement of all the foibles the packet-eers have thrust
upon themselves with accusations of "self spotting", etc etc, ad nauseum.
Be careful of what you ask for. You just might get it.
Jim Neiger
N6TJ
>From ns3t at arrl.net Fri Apr 12 18:06:52 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: NS3T's wild accusation
Message-ID: <001e01c1e265$f89e9040$5f20fccd@jvpcb01>
Dave -
Thanks for your note.
I am making no accusation of any wrongdoing by KA6BIM. I'm sorry you
see it differently. I merely ran some numbers. I don't believe
you did anything wrong at all.
I'm just searching for people who are abusing the system with
multiple spots of other stations.
Hope to work you sometime down the line.
73s
Jamie NS3T
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>
> To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:06 PM
> Subject: NS3T's wild accusation
>
>
> > Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like to
> set
> > the record
> > straight for one and all
> >
> > I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX whenever I
> was
> > in S&P
> > mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many were
dx,
> > many were
> > domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O numerous
> times
> > is in
> > no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can only
spot
> a
> > station
> > once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say, that's my
> > favorite band.
> > NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact was in
> > friendly
> > competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East and
West
> > coast
> > stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed because
I
> > didn't happen
> > to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I
> appreciated
> > the spots
> > that others posted.
> >
> > Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need this
crap
> > in our hobby.
> >
> > Dave Tucker KA6BIM
> >
> >
> >
> > Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
> >
> > "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> > contest over
> > the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
> > reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
> > disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
> > to those in charge of the WPX contest.
> >
> > I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
> > spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
> > they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
> > of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
> >
> > MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
> >
> > 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
> >
> > 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
> >
> > 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
> >
> > 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
> >
> > 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
> >
> > 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
> >
> > 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
> >
> > 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
> >
> > 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> > PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
> >
> > 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
> >
> >
> > More later.
> >
> > Jamie NS3T"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Fri Apr 12 22:13:38 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots-getting old!
In-Reply-To: <2DC7111B.73CBF469.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004701c1e266$eaec97c0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Its not the fact that we don't like packet, its that we don't like
obvious attempts to get around a rule in some contests. Especially not
when there is relatively easy to track evidence from ip addresses used
to make the spots. It just takes some time to sort it all out. Database
tools make it easy to find odd patterns, the key is to sort out the
abuses from the coincidences before taking action.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of ki9a@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 18:51
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots-getting old!
>
> C'mon guys. this tread is getting real old!
>
> Here it is:
> 1) self spotting is illegal. Don't do it.
> 2) spotting others is OK. Do it. There are no limits. Deal with it.
>
> I have recently started using packet during contests, it makes it a
bit
> more intersting for us little pistols. Yeah, damn right I spot my
buddies.
> Show me in the rules where I can't. I also spot guys who I don't even
> know, but I do know they are out there busting their butts during any
> given weekend. Then, there are the rare mults that I spot.
>
> If someone has enough time to go over THOUSANDS of WPX spots, then
post
> them according to who spotted who, they really,really need to get a
life!
>
> If you don't like packet, don't use it. Period.
>
> 73-Chuck KI9A
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>From kr6x at kr6x.com Fri Apr 12 18:00:06 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 -
Team U.A. E.
Message-ID: <00ae01c1e27e$2ccdb540$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
> Besides N6ZZ and K1ZM are competent operators.
I'd be making an understatement if I seconded that
opinion. In spades. But, then, Ken is aware of this also.
I think Ken's post would come under the category of
humor for the masses on the reflector. Of course, a
lot of my own very serious posts are sometimes seen
as humor here.
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Fremin III - K5TR" <geoiii@kkn.net>
To: "Ken Widelitz" <widelitz@gte.net>
Cc: <ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi>; "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 09:42
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 -
Team U.A. E.
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 08:03:07AM -0700, Ken Widelitz wrote:
> > So now you are selecting a station designer and letting him bring in his
> > hired guns to operate for him? Does he get to bring his towers and
antennas
> > with him?
> >
> > Its your stadium, your football, your rules, but this one makes no
sense.
>
> The team selection criteria was spelled out by the WRTC 2002
> folks on June 5th 2001.
>
> You can find it here:
>
> http://www.wrtc2002.org/teams1.htm
>
>
> This team would appear to be:
>
> "The Organizer's Wild Card Team" as listed under the Special Teams
section.
>
>
> I dont see a problem with this - they are only doing what they planned to
do.
>
> Besides N6ZZ and K1ZM are compenent operators.
>
>
> --
> George Fremin III - K5TR
> geoiii@kkn.net
> http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>
>
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>From k0hb at earthlink.net Sat Apr 13 01:50:58 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?iso-8859-1?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: NS3T's wild accusation
References: <001e01c1e265$f89e9040$5f20fccd@jvpcb01>
Message-ID: <00ff01c1e27c$e6176700$3c11be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Dupree" <ns3t@arrl.net>
>
> I'm just searching for people who are abusing the system with
> multiple spots of other stations.
>
>From the French:
Un chasseur sachant chasser chasse sans son chien.
(A hunter who knows how to hunt hunts without his dog)
>From k2av at contesting.com Fri Apr 12 22:01:14 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: NS3T's wild accusation
References: <001e01c1e265$f89e9040$5f20fccd@jvpcb01>
Message-ID: <00ad01c1e286$b5a74d60$0500a8c0@swift>
How does one define "abuse" of the system? Who owns the rules? Who are
the enlightened, privileged ones who gets to define "abuse"? Just the
contest committees, who necessarily have that in their job
description.
Self-spotting is forbidden in contest rules, as is use of spots by
unassisted entry categories. Aside from that?
Nothing down that I know of sets any numeric limits for spotting or
any such. Nor is there anything that says you can only spot stations
in which you have no personal interest.
All the rest is just a personal take (horrors, an attempt to impose
one's own personal druthers on the masses?).
Try carefully defining "abuse" and make the case for the definition,
if you can. A contest committee might be listening, then again, maybe
not.
73, Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Dupree" <ns3t@arrl.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 5:06 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: NS3T's wild accusation
>
> Dave -
>
> Thanks for your note.
>
> I am making no accusation of any wrongdoing by KA6BIM. I'm sorry
you
> see it differently. I merely ran some numbers. I don't believe
> you did anything wrong at all.
>
> I'm just searching for people who are abusing the system with
> multiple spots of other stations.
>
> Hope to work you sometime down the line.
>
> 73s
> Jamie NS3T
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>
> > To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> > Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:06 PM
> > Subject: NS3T's wild accusation
> >
> >
> > > Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would
like to
> > set
> > > the record
> > > straight for one and all
> > >
> > > I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX
whenever I
> > was
> > > in S&P
> > > mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many
were
> dx,
> > > many were
> > > domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O
numerous
> > times
> > > is in
> > > no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can
only
> spot
> > a
> > > station
> > > once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say,
that's my
> > > favorite band.
> > > NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact
was in
> > > friendly
> > > competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East
and
> West
> > > coast
> > > stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed
because
> I
> > > didn't happen
> > > to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I
> > appreciated
> > > the spots
> > > that others posted.
> > >
> > > Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need
this
> crap
> > > in our hobby.
> > >
> > > Dave Tucker KA6BIM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
> > >
> > > "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> > > contest over
> > > the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work
with the
> > > reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence
of
> > > disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be
forwarded
> > > to those in charge of the WPX contest.
> > >
> > > I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that
frequently
> > > spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people
say that
> > > they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour
contest; some
> > > of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
> > >
> > > MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
> > >
> > > 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
> > >
> > > 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
> > >
> > > 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
> > >
> > > 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
> > >
> > > 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
> > >
> > > 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
> > >
> > > 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
> > >
> > > 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
> > >
> > > 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> > > PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
> > >
> > > 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
> > >
> > >
> > > More later.
> > >
> > > Jamie NS3T"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 13 04:32:06 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
References: <B8DC5400.3792%ddddd@attbi.com>
Message-ID: <3CB798A6.F41D6D60@harborside.com>
Dave Tucker wrote:
>
> I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX >whenever I was
> in S&P mode.
Hi Dave
Did you ask these stations if they wanted to be spotted?? I've
read posts where lots of DX stations don't want to be spotted
during a contest. Slows the rate down considerably. Maybe we
can have a new category MSBASDAC--Most Spots By A Station During
A Contest.
Tom W7WHY
>From w3gh at kiski.net Sat Apr 13 00:35:34 2002
From: w3gh@kiski.net (Robert W. King)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Room needed at Dayton
Message-ID: <000f01c1e29c$460e4380$1dbfc3d1@oemcomputer>
Anyone have an extra room at Crowne Plaza
or willing to share expenses? May 16-17-18.
Bob W3GH
>From vk4uc at ozemail.com.au Sat Apr 13 15:15:57 2002
From: vk4uc@ozemail.com.au (John Cashen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release
#18 - Team U.A. E.
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020413140329.00ab2760@mail.ozemail.com.au>
I don't know if anyone has noticed, but the "Continent" of Oceania is not
represented in the World Championships. If a station entry in the Oceania
could have been allowed to use"hired guns" perhaps our part of the world
would have been included too. We have been hosting top contesters for CQWW
and other contests for many years now.
BTW Oceania was represented in the past two WRTCs.
73
John VK4UC
>From va3uz at rac.ca Sat Apr 13 11:24:00 2002
From: va3uz@rac.ca (VA3UZ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] My WPX CW UBN file
Message-ID: <007801c1e2f6$e8a8e6e0$0201a8c0@yuri>
Bad or non verifiable CALL SIGNS excluded from the score:
QSO: 21032 CW 2001-05-26 1530 VA3UZ 599 1047 VE3RKF 599
126
QSO: 14044 CW 2001-05-27 0315 VA3UZ 599 1976 K0IAL 599
194
Ironically, just heard K0IAL on 20 m SSB. Mike from Iowa....
One more funny thing:
QSOs found, by cross checking, to have unmatchable serial numbers not
excluded from the score:
QSO: 21032 CW 2001-05-26 1751 VA3UZ 599 1271 N6NF 599
27
..............................................Serial number should be: 1
< SNIP >
QSO: 14025 CW 2001-05-27 2241 VA3UZ 599 2887 N6NF 599
267
..............................................Serial number should be: 1
Does N6NF have all the serial numbers "1" in his LOG? :-)) Just curios.
73 Yuri VA3UZ
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Sat Apr 13 11:37:52 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spotting statistics
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEBGDFAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
The problem with data...any data...is understanding it. NS3T's doesn't
take into account the TOTAL NUMBER OF SPOTS FROM EACH STATION. It may
be that what is reported represents only a small percentage of total spots
for any given station, and is not only not material statistically, it might
not be memorable during the heat of a contest.
Take an extreme case....Suppose a m/m has a mult hunting/spotting position.
All it's doing is feeding the station network with mults for band S&P
follow-up,
and dumping spots on the net. It might spot...10-15 an hour, for 48 hours.
That's 480 to 720 spots in a contest. Suppose there are different ops in that
chair. What is the chance they'll randomly spot HC8N 4 times on 10 meters?
When 10 is hot, I'd say pretty fair. Chances of 10-12 spots happening are
high, in fact.
What does it mean? Absolutely nothing, statistically.
Let's take the top poster on Jamie's list....IR3P. He spotted FM5GU 30 times,
half of which were on 20 meters. Is there something wrong with that? Suppose
IR3P has buddies who NEED FM, and he was making sure they knew where he was.
We don't know whether that was 100% of IR3P's total spots, or 1%; but
it was probably in the minority. It averages less than one an hour...and less
than one every TWO hours on 20 meters. Is that a lot? Doesn't seem so.
Here's another factor:
Most EU spots tend to go to DXSummit, and are visible worldwide. Some US clubs
still close their network to outside spots...and vice versa....so you might
have
more aggressive spotting within a club than is visible globally. Where's the
fairness factor there?
Again, I urge caution in reaching judgement on this issue. If you stipulate
that self-spotting is a proscribed behavior, then the only remaining question
is "what's excessive spotting of other guys?".
My response would be, "Who cares?". Why discourage spotting at all? The more
you spot, the more you drain resource that could be producing Q's for your own
station. If you overdo it, the packet bandwidth starts to backlog. It's a
self-limiting behavior, both ways.
Let's talk about something else.
Jim Jarvis, N2EA
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Apr 13 13:42:50 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <01df01c1e30a$5d503440$03010a0a@office1>
Tom,
My experience was exactly the opposite -- I had a lot of DX stations (I
stopped counting at 30) ask me to put them on the cluster. I had 2 or 3
that seemed perturbed when I declined -- one S5 station called me a, hmmm,
compared me to a portion of the human anatomy that rarely see much sunshine
(and maybe I am sometimes, aren't we all, but that still does not strike me
as an appropriate transmission during the contest!).
Personally, I found NS3T's statistics interesting but inconclusive. Since
we don't know who actually generated the spots, proving self-spotting
without further details would be difficult. Be so as it may, while I think
a rule clarification regarding soliciting for or self-spotting may be worth
considering for most contests, I don't know what more can be done.
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Osborne <w7why@harborside.com>
Reply-To: w7why@harborside.com
Organization: Amateur Radio W7WHY
To: CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
Dave Tucker wrote:
>
> I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX
>whenever I was in S&P mode.
Hi Dave
Did you ask these stations if they wanted to be spotted?? I've
read posts where lots of DX stations don't want to be spotted
during a contest. Slows the rate down considerably. Maybe we
can have a new category MSBASDAC--Most Spots By A Station During
A Contest.
Tom W7WHY
>From yt3t at absolutok.net Sat Apr 13 21:00:48 2002
From: yt3t@absolutok.net (Kele YT3T)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <001601c1e315$24df0ae0$9ce45d50@pentium>
Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
U.A.E. guest ops...
For an average YU ham, you are ALL very wealthy, and from our point of view,
the sport of contesting is "money talks' indeed. To let you get an idea, an
average YU ham has to spend his whole 2-year income to be able to set a
station consisting of: one modern transceiver, one kilowatt amplifier, one
rotor, one modest tower, one tribander and minimum of required cables and
wires. I did NOT say 2-year savings, but 2-year salaries. And just a few
months more to get a modest computer.
I do not think that A61AJ have spent his 2+year income to set his station,
just as many of you who maintain super stations.
So, the real money consumption in contesting activities happens in my
neighbourhood, and I am desperate, since they all expect me to run this
race. Oh well, I hope some of you will print your QSL cards at my printshop
:-)
73
Kele
YT3T, YU1AO
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sat Apr 13 19:19:39 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] station availability
Message-ID: <004901c1e317$c66a1b00$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
My station is available for most of the spring/summer contests. I am
booked for WPX CW, NE QSO Party, CQ-M, and maybe IARU. If you are
interested in trying out any of the other summer contests please contact
me directly. This is a chance to try out big antennas, different radios
and amps, bring friends and do a multi-op, etc.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From n4zr at contesting.com Sat Apr 13 15:43:22 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
In-Reply-To: <001601c1e315$24df0ae0$9ce45d50@pentium>
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020413144147.0532caa0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 08:00 PM 4/13/02 +0200, Kele YT3T wrote:
>Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
>U.A.E. guest ops...
I have been searching in vain for the press release that started all this
-- The WRTC web site does not have press release #18. Could it possibly be
a hoax? If not, could someone either send me the text directly or point me
to a URL?
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From japancorporateresearch at compuserve.com Sat Apr 13 16:07:20 2002
From: japancorporateresearch@compuserve.com (Hal Offutt)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Upcoming Contests for Mobiles
Message-ID: <200204131507_MC3-F9B8-FA62@compuserve.com>
Hi,
Most of you probably read the great article by Jim K8MR on mobile
contesting in the March/April 2002 issue of NCJ.
Jim pointed out the similarity between the mobile category in state QSO
parties and the WRTC: operators in both events compete from very similar
stations and under very similar conditions. He explained the great fun and
challenge of mobile contesting: laying out a route before the contest,
operating from a vehicle while enjoying the countryside scenery, good
pileups and rates, and real competition. He also noted how much fun it can
be for non-mobile stations to follow the mobiles around and work them in
each new county they enter.
Mobile contesting has become increasingly popular during the past few
years. I think this is mainly due to the involvement of contest clubs in
the resurrection of the FQP, the OQP, the GAQP and the MQP and their
success in getting a lot of first class ops out on the roads. Another
enabling factor is the availability of so many compact 12V HF rigs at
reasonable prices. More and more state QSO parties now have achieved what
I think is the minimum number of active mobiles (six to eight) necessary to
make an interesting event for all participants. I expect to see even more
mobiles out there in the future as people discover just how much fun this
form of contesting is.
Four of the best events for mobile contesting are coming up over the next
three weeks. If Jim's article stimulated your interest with his article,
you will have ample opportunity coming up to experience this brand of
contesting activity, either from your home QTH or from your own vehicle.
Brief information on these events is shown below.
First, a couple of notes:
1. These events are rapidly becoming true *CONTESTS*, not simply low-key
county hunting events. The counties are the means, not the end. Most of
the mobile operators in the events I detail below (with one exception) are
not especially interested in county hunting. If you do chase counties,
though, there's no better forum.
2. Some of the top ops in the country are getting out there on the road in
these events. Take a look at the results from previous years and at the
list of guys planning to operate this year and you'll see what I mean.
3. Although these contests are all centered in the US, activity from
outside the US is permitted and very welcome.
4. There are pileups every time a mobile changes counties. That's around
160 pileups during a 12 hour contest where 8 mobiles each change counties
20 times. This is a great opportunity to practice your pileup-busting
technique. How often can you be the first station into the mobile's log?
5. Plenty of cool wallpaper and plaques available.
Upcoming Contests with Major Mobile Activity
1. Michigan QSO Party, sponsored by the Mad River Radio Club, April 20-21
A 12 hour event from 1600Z to 0400Z Saturday (noon to midnight EDST). Nine
mobiles were active last year, with the winner making 924 contacts. SSB
and CW but emphasis on CW. Mobiles handed out nearly 5,000 contacts in
all. Attracts some of the top ops in the Midwest. Most MI counties get
activated.
Rules and results: http://mrrc.net
2. Florida QSO Party, sponsored by the Florida Contest Group, April 27-28
A 20 hour event in two ten-hour time periods: Sat 1600Z to 0159Z (noon to
10 PM EDST) and Sun 1200Z to 2159Z (8 AM to 6 PM EDST). SSB and CW, good
activity on both modes. 10 mobiles were active last year and there were
403 total log submissions. All FL counties were active. High mobile QSO
count was 1207.
Rules and results: http://www.qsl.net/fcg
3. New England QSO Party, sponsored by YCCC and several local clubs, May
4-5
A 20 hour event in two time periods: Sat 2000Z to 0300Z (4 PM to 11 PM
EDST) and Sun 1100Z to 2400Z (7 AM to 8 PM EDST).
Both SSB and CW. This is the first running of a new event that brings the
six small New England states under one QSO party umbrella. Promises to
turn some sleepy NE state QSO parties into a real contest. 8 mobiles have
already announced plans to be active, and the sponsors are aiming to get
all NE counties on.
Rules: http://neqp.org
4. County Hunters' Contest CW, sponsored by the Mobile Amateur Radio
Awards Club, May 4-5
A 48 hour event from 0000Z Saturday to 2400Z Sunday (8 PM Friday night to 8
PM Sunday night EDST). CW only. No significant activity during the night.
Fixed stations can work each other as well as the mobiles but mobiles
count 15 points against 1 point for fixed station contacts, so activity is
focussed on the mobiles. This is the only event of the year where mobiles
in different states can contact and compete with each other. 15 mobiles
were active in 2001, with the winner's QSO total at 1905 and the high
multiplier at 340. The overlap with the NEQP this year should make for
even more activity.
The Indiana QSO Party is also scheduled for Saturday, May 4 from 1300Z to
0500Z (9 AM to 1 AM) so you can work the NEQP, the CHC, and the INQP at the
same time. Info at www.qsl.net/kj9d/inqp/rules.html.
73 & GL,
Hal W1NN
______________________________________
Japan Corporate Research
Research and Consulting Services on Japan
www.japancorporateresearch.com
>From K3EST at cqww.com Sat Apr 13 13:54:08 2002
From: K3EST@cqww.com (Bob Cox)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB reports
Message-ID: <007c01c1e325$1452a460$ae2b5142@rockne>
Dear Fellow Contesters,
The 2001 CQ WW SSB UBN and NIL reports are now available for you at
http://www.cqww.com . Just find your call and click. Enter your password which
everyone who submitted an email log received. If you submitted only a paper
log your call will not appear on the list.
In a few weeks we will place a list of calls + categories + clubs on the
cqww.com web site for you to check. An announcement will be made.
The CQ WW will require the cabrillo format for submissions starting with the
2002 contest. All the non-cabrillo 2001 SSB logs on the CQ WW website have been
converted to the carbillo format by the CQ WW Committee. The cabrillo format is
available with the major contest logging programs.
Although we are sure that you are familiar with the reasons why cabrillo is
important, here is the main reason: It allows the easy assembly of all the data
necessary for compiling the results by the contest sponsor. Without cabrillo
the CQ WW Committee must deal with many, many logging formats....which takes
many, now unneeded, hundreds of hours.
Approximately 70 % of the logs received for the 2001 CQ WW SSB test were
already in the cabrillo format. This was great! Thanks.
73
Bob, K3EST
CQ WW Director
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>From bagno at mai.ru Sun Apr 14 01:43:12 2002
From: bagno@mai.ru (Dmitri Bagno (RW3FO))
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
Message-ID: <007001c1e32c$e0ca3920$0100007f@localhost>
Two nice certificates came today for EuSprint 2001 --
thank you Paolo, Dave, Bernhard & Karel!
--Dmitri (RW3FO)
>From ad6e at inreach.com Sat Apr 13 00:31:43 2002
From: ad6e@inreach.com (Alan Maenchen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
References: <B8DC5400.3792%ddddd@attbi.com>
Message-ID: <002301c1e27b$aa6fe840$0e0bfea9@am>
Thanks Dave for bringing this to light.
Its one of the reasons I've un-subscribed to CQ-Contest
If NS3T doesn't want to see all those spots he should turn it off.
So far as "self spotting" goes, he should correlate the spotter to be one of
the operators at said spotted station. Looks like his list is simply a list
of frequently spotted stations .. not self spotted. However, even that may
not "work" since an operator can legally spot a M/M station while he is
operating somewhere else, then go work from that M/M later (or earlier). No
problem for non-ARRL contests.
Al AD6E (also, part-time op at KX7M)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>
To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 17:06
Subject: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
> Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like to
set
> the record
> straight for one and all
>
> I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX whenever I
was
> in S&P
> mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many were dx,
> many were
> domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O numerous
times
> is in
> no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can only spot
a
> station
> once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say, that's my
> favorite band.
> NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact was in
> friendly
> competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East and West
> coast
> stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed because I
> didn't happen
> to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I
appreciated
> the spots
> that others posted.
>
> Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need this crap
> in our hobby.
>
> Dave Tucker KA6BIM
>
>
>
> Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
>
> "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> contest over
> the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
> reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
> disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
> to those in charge of the WPX contest.
>
> I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
> spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
> they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
> of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
>
> MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
>
> 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
>
> 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
>
> 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
>
> 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
>
> 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
>
> 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
>
> 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
>
> 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
>
> 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
>
> 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
>
>
> More later.
>
> Jamie NS3T"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>From ns3t at arrl.net Sat Apr 13 20:44:21 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: spotting statistics
Message-ID: <002e01c1e345$35adb670$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Jim -
Thanks for your note.
I should have been more clear in my original posting. I opened the
discussion about self spotting, but then posted data on something else.
That was probably a mistake and has resulted in a bit of tempest. :-)
So here is the background that some have asked for...and I
am making NO judgment about these spots. I simply thought
the raw numbers of spots were interesting, that's why I posted them
in the first place.
The reason I got into this is that during the ARRL contest, someone
spotted under my call. A quick review showed that's happening more
than we would probably like to admit...but that is not what these
numbers are about. These are raw numbers of what stations
spotted another station the most - that's all.
---
IR3P made 30 spots of FM5GU - IR3P made no other spots
in the contest.
S51QN made 28 spots of S58M - S51QN made only one
other spot in the contest.
CE4CVN made 28 spots of CB4A - CE4VCN made a total of
38 spots in the WPX.
OK1WWJ made 21 spots of OL5T - OK1WWJ made only
two other contest spots that weekend.
RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times - RK3QWA made
112 spots in the WPX.
N2QER spotted NY6DX 13 times - N2QER made 33 total spots.
UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - UR7IJQ made only
one other WPX contest spot.
PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - PY2SBY made
a total of 28 spots in the contest.
KA6BIM spotted NR6O 10 times - as KA6BIM has pointed
out, he made many more overall spots, a total of 436,
making this a very small minority.
KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - KC5JSO made a
total of 19 WPX spots.
So there we go. I am making no wild accusations here -
I'm just running numbers and looking for a discussion.
I'm not trying to discourage spotting or cast it in a negative
light. I still plan to talk further about self spots. But that
is later, not in the above numbers.
Jamie NS3T
>From w5xd at writelog.com Sun Apr 14 01:37:15 2002
From: w5xd@writelog.com (W. Wright, W5XD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots. who needs 'em?
Message-ID: <000d01c1e34c$870dc210$6400000a@W5XD>
Am I the only person on the planet that thinks running packet in a contest
REDUCES the enjoyment of the weekend? If the guys that are complaining at
each other about abusing packet would all just quit using it, they might
discover you enjoy the sense of accomplishment that comes with finding your
own multipliers.
As a software vendor I get requests that I can paraphrase as "please improve
the aim of your software for shooting fish in a barrel--there were 100 fish
in that barrel last weekend and I could have shot more than 90 of them if
your software were better". I do attempt to "improve the aim" (should I?),
but one the great mysteries of life is why folks don't try to go find fish
that haven't been put the the barrel yet?
Wayne, W5XD
>From otterstad at enter.vg Sun Apr 14 05:42:38 2002
From: otterstad@enter.vg (otterstad@enter.vg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
In-Reply-To: <001601c1e315$24df0ae0$9ce45d50@pentium>
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
<001601c1e315$24df0ae0$9ce45d50@pentium>
Message-ID: <20020414024238.552C111712@mail1.vg.eunet.no>
Kele YT3T <yt3t@absolutok.net>:
> Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to
the selection of
> U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> For an average YU ham, you are ALL very wealthy, and
from our point of
> view,
> the sport of contesting is "money talks' indeed. To
let you get an idea, an
> average YU ham has to spend his whole 2-year income
to be able to set a
> station consisting of: one modern transceiver, one
kilowatt amplifier, one
> rotor, one modest tower, one tribander and minimum of
required cables and
> wires. I did NOT say 2-year savings, but 2-year
salaries. And just a few
> months more to get a modest computer.
Thanks for putting this into a different perspective ,
Kele. We need to be reminded from time to time how
priviledged we are !
73 Rag W7/LA5HE
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Sun Apr 14 04:57:29 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
In-Reply-To: <200204140115.g3E1FUAl013265@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020414033001.00a98700@pop.pacific.net.hk>
Hmmm... I thought we were tuned to cq-contest. ;^)
Cheers to NS3T for his subsequent clarification of intention. I beginning
to think
I was the only one who could sense it was such to begin with.
Obviously, neither KA6BIM nor NR6O (that's N6RO, right?) are to be confused
with some of the dodgy spotters out there. And the raw data NS3T presented
does show how the good guys can look like those that might not be so good.
Let's not get carried away here or take things out of context,
either. Remember,
NS3T - like myself - found he was making spots that he didn't. Some dodgy
stuff is going on out there. I sense some here have forgotten that or may not
have seen the start of the thread & others seem not to follow much of it at all
from what they have contributed to the discussion.
IMHO, sometimes it's hard to even bring stuff up here for level-headed
reasonable
discussion of the sort I would expect from radiosporting enthusiasts & some of
the reaction seen on this thread is why. I'll now retire to the roof to
read the
Sunday papers & contemplate the reaction that may result from this post as no
doubt somebody will not read it in the friendly tone in which it was written.
No frame intended - sorry my poor Engrish!
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From kg6ok at pacbell.net Sun Apr 14 06:12:51 2002
From: kg6ok@pacbell.net (Herb Rosenberg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Win a Complete Amateur Radio Station?
Message-ID: <3CB90FD3.A315556@pacbell.net>
How would you like to win a Complete Amateur Radio Station?
Interested? Well, if you come to the International DX Convention in
Visalia, CA on Friday - Sunday, April 26-28, 2002, and you buy enough
raffle tickets, and you are very very lucky.....
You could walk out with all of this....... (a complete custom dream
station, and more..... )
For a HF radio,
How about an ICOM 706MKII, Alinco DX77, Kenwood TS2000, and Yaesu
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For HF Antennas,
How about a Force 12 XR5 Beam, M2 KT36XA Beam, Cushcraft AW3S, Fulid
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For Cabling,
How about 125 feet of National Wire & Cable premium rotor and coaxial
cables?
For a Tower,
How about a US Tower TX-455 (yes, the whole tower)
For a microphone,
How about a Heil Goldline Microphone & and Heil Proset Head Set and a
Limited Edition Astatic D-104 Collector's microphone?
For a Key,
How about a Bencher BY-1 Keyer and a Idiom Press LogiKey Iambic Keyer
For Station Accessories,
How about a AOR Multi terminal PSK, RTTY, decoder, Daiwa Watt Meters, a
HAL DPX38 RTTY Demodulator, ClearSpeech speakers, DXer Dream Clocks, and
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Oh, yeah, and don't forget about,
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How about a few thousand pre-printed deluxe QSL cards, Collector item
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How about your choice of CDROM Callbooks from Buckmaster and Radio
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How about logging and contest software from DX4WIN, Writelog, NA, EQF
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How about mobile antenna products from HI-Q Antennas, K6MB, W6AAQ, KJ7U,
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>From trogo at telegraphy.com Sun Apr 14 00:52:28 2002
From: trogo@telegraphy.com (Tony Rogozinski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
<5.1.0.14.0.20020413144147.0532caa0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <01c401c1e380$f7f174c0$012cfea9@ph.cox.net>
Give me a break for Goodness Sakes! The sponsors/organizers of this event -
in
writing - have reserved the right to invite a team of their choosing - and
in this
case we know who it is. So quit bitching and accept the fact that they made
a
decision regardless of how or why it was done. You guys sound like a bunch
of babies! Get your shit together and concentrate on the business at hand
which
is to win the contest once it takes place. Interestingly I don't see any
derogatory
postings by the guys who usually do win.
Tony N7BG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
> At 08:00 PM 4/13/02 +0200, Kele YT3T wrote:
> >Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
> >U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> I have been searching in vain for the press release that started all this
> -- The WRTC web site does not have press release #18. Could it possibly
be
> a hoax? If not, could someone either send me the text directly or point
me
> to a URL?
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sun Apr 14 13:25:30 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB reports
In-Reply-To: <007c01c1e325$1452a460$ae2b5142@rockne>
Message-ID: <002d01c1e3af$77f06630$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Is there someplace were a summary of ubn statistics is published? Best,
worst, average, type breakdowns??
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From k7sv at va.prestige.net Sun Apr 14 10:19:37 2002
From: k7sv@va.prestige.net (Larry Schimelpfenig)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
References: <200204140115.g3E1F1Al013256@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000801c1e3b7$07bafda0$1e2e4144@frbgva.adelphia.net>
Is it increasing age that is causing me to have trouble understanding folks
these days?
Pete Smith (N4ZR) asked for a copy or URL of WRTC 2002 release 18. I assume
Pete, like myself, would like to read it to better understand what the
thread is all about. Having no luck in finding 18, the best I can do is
form conclusions based on the fragments that have appeared in the thread.
This morning Tony Rogozinski (N7BG) responds to Pete in derogatory terms
that have nothing to do with Pete's request.
My two long term loves in ham radio have been contesting and dxing. The lack
of discipline and apathy of a large percentage of the dx crowd has reduced
my primary interest in the hobby to contesting. Perhaps it's in my best
interest to stop reading the reflectors and just get on and work the
contests I enjoy.
73 de Larry K7SV
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> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. My WPX CW UBN file (VA3UZ)
> 2. spotting statistics (jljarvis)
> 3. Re: NS3T's wild accusation (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
> 4. Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.) (Kele YT3T)
> 5. station availability (David Robbins)
> 6. Re: Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.) (Pete Smith)
> 7. Upcoming Contests for Mobiles (Hal Offutt)
> 8. SSB reports (Bob Cox)
> 9. Re: Eu Sprint 2002 (Dmitri Bagno (RW3FO))
> 10. Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation (Alan Maenchen)
> 11. Re: spotting statistics (Jamie Dupree)
> 12. spots. who needs 'em? (W. Wright, W5XD)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> From: "VA3UZ" <va3uz@rac.ca>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] My WPX CW UBN file
>
> Bad or non verifiable CALL SIGNS excluded from the score:
>
> QSO: 21032 CW 2001-05-26 1530 VA3UZ 599 1047 VE3RKF 599
> 126
> QSO: 14044 CW 2001-05-27 0315 VA3UZ 599 1976 K0IAL 599
> 194
>
> Ironically, just heard K0IAL on 20 m SSB. Mike from Iowa....
>
> One more funny thing:
>
> QSOs found, by cross checking, to have unmatchable serial numbers not
> excluded from the score:
>
> QSO: 21032 CW 2001-05-26 1751 VA3UZ 599 1271 N6NF
599
> 27
> ..............................................Serial number should be:
1
>
>
> < SNIP >
>
>
> QSO: 14025 CW 2001-05-27 2241 VA3UZ 599 2887 N6NF 599
> 267
> ..............................................Serial number should be:
1
>
> Does N6NF have all the serial numbers "1" in his LOG? :-)) Just curios.
>
>
> 73 Yuri VA3UZ
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> From: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] spotting statistics
>
>
>
> The problem with data...any data...is understanding it. NS3T's doesn't
> take into account the TOTAL NUMBER OF SPOTS FROM EACH STATION. It may
> be that what is reported represents only a small percentage of total spots
> for any given station, and is not only not material statistically, it
might
> not be memorable during the heat of a contest.
>
> Take an extreme case....Suppose a m/m has a mult hunting/spotting
position.
> All it's doing is feeding the station network with mults for band S&P
follow-up,
> and dumping spots on the net. It might spot...10-15 an hour, for 48
hours.
> That's 480 to 720 spots in a contest. Suppose there are different ops in
that
> chair. What is the chance they'll randomly spot HC8N 4 times on 10
meters?
> When 10 is hot, I'd say pretty fair. Chances of 10-12 spots happening are
> high, in fact.
>
> What does it mean? Absolutely nothing, statistically.
>
> Let's take the top poster on Jamie's list....IR3P. He spotted FM5GU 30
times,
> half of which were on 20 meters. Is there something wrong with that?
Suppose
> IR3P has buddies who NEED FM, and he was making sure they knew where he
was.
> We don't know whether that was 100% of IR3P's total spots, or 1%; but
> it was probably in the minority. It averages less than one an hour...and
less
> than one every TWO hours on 20 meters. Is that a lot? Doesn't seem so.
>
> Here's another factor:
> Most EU spots tend to go to DXSummit, and are visible worldwide. Some US
clubs
> still close their network to outside spots...and vice versa....so you
might have
> more aggressive spotting within a club than is visible globally. Where's
the
> fairness factor there?
>
> Again, I urge caution in reaching judgement on this issue. If you
stipulate
> that self-spotting is a proscribed behavior, then the only remaining
question
> is "what's excessive spotting of other guys?".
>
> My response would be, "Who cares?". Why discourage spotting at all? The
more
> you spot, the more you drain resource that could be producing Q's for your
own
> station. If you overdo it, the packet bandwidth starts to backlog. It's
a
> self-limiting behavior, both ways.
>
> Let's talk about something else.
>
> Jim Jarvis, N2EA
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
>
> Tom,
>
> My experience was exactly the opposite -- I had a lot of DX stations (I
> stopped counting at 30) ask me to put them on the cluster. I had 2 or 3
> that seemed perturbed when I declined -- one S5 station called me a, hmmm,
> compared me to a portion of the human anatomy that rarely see much
sunshine
> (and maybe I am sometimes, aren't we all, but that still does not strike
me
> as an appropriate transmission during the contest!).
>
> Personally, I found NS3T's statistics interesting but inconclusive. Since
> we don't know who actually generated the spots, proving self-spotting
> without further details would be difficult. Be so as it may, while I
think
> a rule clarification regarding soliciting for or self-spotting may be
worth
> considering for most contests, I don't know what more can be done.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "There's No Crying in Baseball!"
> -- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Osborne <w7why@harborside.com>
> Reply-To: w7why@harborside.com
> Organization: Amateur Radio W7WHY
> To: CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
>
> Dave Tucker wrote:
> >
> > I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX
> >whenever I was in S&P mode.
>
> Hi Dave
>
> Did you ask these stations if they wanted to be spotted?? I've
> read posts where lots of DX stations don't want to be spotted
> during a contest. Slows the rate down considerably. Maybe we
> can have a new category MSBASDAC--Most Spots By A Station During
> A Contest.
> Tom W7WHY
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> From: "Kele YT3T" <yt3t@absolutok.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
>
> Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
> U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> For an average YU ham, you are ALL very wealthy, and from our point of
view,
> the sport of contesting is "money talks' indeed. To let you get an idea,
an
> average YU ham has to spend his whole 2-year income to be able to set a
> station consisting of: one modern transceiver, one kilowatt amplifier, one
> rotor, one modest tower, one tribander and minimum of required cables and
> wires. I did NOT say 2-year savings, but 2-year salaries. And just a few
> months more to get a modest computer.
>
> I do not think that A61AJ have spent his 2+year income to set his station,
> just as many of you who maintain super stations.
>
> So, the real money consumption in contesting activities happens in my
> neighbourhood, and I am desperate, since they all expect me to run this
> race. Oh well, I hope some of you will print your QSL cards at my
printshop
> :-)
>
> 73
> Kele
> YT3T, YU1AO
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> From: "David Robbins" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
> To: <yccc@yccc.org>, "reflector cq-contest" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] station availability
>
> My station is available for most of the spring/summer contests. I am
> booked for WPX CW, NE QSO Party, CQ-M, and maybe IARU. If you are
> interested in trying out any of the other summer contests please contact
> me directly. This is a chance to try out big antennas, different radios
> and amps, bring friends and do a multi-op, etc.
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> From: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
>
> At 08:00 PM 4/13/02 +0200, Kele YT3T wrote:
> >Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
> >U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> I have been searching in vain for the press release that started all this
> -- The WRTC web site does not have press release #18. Could it possibly
be
> a hoax? If not, could someone either send me the text directly or point
me
> to a URL?
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> From: Hal Offutt <japancorporateresearch@compuserve.com>
> To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Upcoming Contests for Mobiles
>
> Hi,
>
> Most of you probably read the great article by Jim K8MR on mobile
> contesting in the March/April 2002 issue of NCJ.
>
> Jim pointed out the similarity between the mobile category in state QSO
> parties and the WRTC: operators in both events compete from very similar
> stations and under very similar conditions. He explained the great fun
and
> challenge of mobile contesting: laying out a route before the contest,
> operating from a vehicle while enjoying the countryside scenery, good
> pileups and rates, and real competition. He also noted how much fun it
can
> be for non-mobile stations to follow the mobiles around and work them in
> each new county they enter.
>
> Mobile contesting has become increasingly popular during the past few
> years. I think this is mainly due to the involvement of contest clubs in
> the resurrection of the FQP, the OQP, the GAQP and the MQP and their
> success in getting a lot of first class ops out on the roads. Another
> enabling factor is the availability of so many compact 12V HF rigs at
> reasonable prices. More and more state QSO parties now have achieved what
> I think is the minimum number of active mobiles (six to eight) necessary
to
> make an interesting event for all participants. I expect to see even more
> mobiles out there in the future as people discover just how much fun this
> form of contesting is.
>
> Four of the best events for mobile contesting are coming up over the next
> three weeks. If Jim's article stimulated your interest with his article,
> you will have ample opportunity coming up to experience this brand of
> contesting activity, either from your home QTH or from your own vehicle.
> Brief information on these events is shown below.
>
> First, a couple of notes:
>
> 1. These events are rapidly becoming true *CONTESTS*, not simply low-key
> county hunting events. The counties are the means, not the end. Most of
> the mobile operators in the events I detail below (with one exception) are
> not especially interested in county hunting. If you do chase counties,
> though, there's no better forum.
>
> 2. Some of the top ops in the country are getting out there on the road
in
> these events. Take a look at the results from previous years and at the
> list of guys planning to operate this year and you'll see what I mean.
>
>
> 3. Although these contests are all centered in the US, activity from
> outside the US is permitted and very welcome.
>
> 4. There are pileups every time a mobile changes counties. That's around
> 160 pileups during a 12 hour contest where 8 mobiles each change counties
> 20 times. This is a great opportunity to practice your pileup-busting
> technique. How often can you be the first station into the mobile's log?
>
> 5. Plenty of cool wallpaper and plaques available.
>
>
>
> Upcoming Contests with Major Mobile Activity
>
>
> 1. Michigan QSO Party, sponsored by the Mad River Radio Club, April 20-21
>
> A 12 hour event from 1600Z to 0400Z Saturday (noon to midnight EDST).
Nine
> mobiles were active last year, with the winner making 924 contacts. SSB
> and CW but emphasis on CW. Mobiles handed out nearly 5,000 contacts in
> all. Attracts some of the top ops in the Midwest. Most MI counties get
> activated.
>
> Rules and results: http://mrrc.net
>
>
>
> 2. Florida QSO Party, sponsored by the Florida Contest Group, April
27-28
>
>
> A 20 hour event in two ten-hour time periods: Sat 1600Z to 0159Z (noon to
> 10 PM EDST) and Sun 1200Z to 2159Z (8 AM to 6 PM EDST). SSB and CW, good
> activity on both modes. 10 mobiles were active last year and there were
> 403 total log submissions. All FL counties were active. High mobile QSO
> count was 1207.
>
> Rules and results: http://www.qsl.net/fcg
>
>
>
> 3. New England QSO Party, sponsored by YCCC and several local clubs, May
> 4-5
>
> A 20 hour event in two time periods: Sat 2000Z to 0300Z (4 PM to 11 PM
> EDST) and Sun 1100Z to 2400Z (7 AM to 8 PM EDST).
> Both SSB and CW. This is the first running of a new event that brings the
> six small New England states under one QSO party umbrella. Promises to
> turn some sleepy NE state QSO parties into a real contest. 8 mobiles have
> already announced plans to be active, and the sponsors are aiming to get
> all NE counties on.
>
> Rules: http://neqp.org
>
>
>
> 4. County Hunters' Contest CW, sponsored by the Mobile Amateur Radio
> Awards Club, May 4-5
>
> A 48 hour event from 0000Z Saturday to 2400Z Sunday (8 PM Friday night to
8
> PM Sunday night EDST). CW only. No significant activity during the
night.
> Fixed stations can work each other as well as the mobiles but mobiles
> count 15 points against 1 point for fixed station contacts, so activity is
> focussed on the mobiles. This is the only event of the year where mobiles
> in different states can contact and compete with each other. 15 mobiles
> were active in 2001, with the winner's QSO total at 1905 and the high
> multiplier at 340. The overlap with the NEQP this year should make for
> even more activity.
>
>
> The Indiana QSO Party is also scheduled for Saturday, May 4 from 1300Z to
> 0500Z (9 AM to 1 AM) so you can work the NEQP, the CHC, and the INQP at
the
> same time. Info at www.qsl.net/kj9d/inqp/rules.html.
>
>
> 73 & GL,
>
> Hal W1NN
>
>
> ______________________________________
> Japan Corporate Research
> Research and Consulting Services on Japan
> www.japancorporateresearch.com
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> From: "Bob Cox" <K3EST@cqww.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB reports
>
>
> Dear Fellow Contesters,
>
> The 2001 CQ WW SSB UBN and NIL reports are now available for you at =
> http://www.cqww.com . Just find your call and click. Enter your password =
> which everyone who submitted an email log received. If you submitted =
> only a paper log your call will not appear on the list.
>
> In a few weeks we will place a list of calls + categories + clubs on the =
> cqww.com web site for you to check. An announcement will be made.
>
> The CQ WW will require the cabrillo format for submissions starting with =
> the 2002 contest. All the non-cabrillo 2001 SSB logs on the CQ WW =
> website have been converted to the carbillo format by the CQ WW =
> Committee. The cabrillo format is available with the major contest =
> logging programs.=20
>
> Although we are sure that you are familiar with the reasons why cabrillo =
> is important, here is the main reason: It allows the easy assembly of =
> all the data necessary for compiling the results by the contest sponsor. =
> Without cabrillo the CQ WW Committee must deal with many, many logging =
> formats....which takes many, now unneeded, hundreds of hours.
>
> Approximately 70 % of the logs received for the 2001 CQ WW SSB test were =
> already in the cabrillo format. This was great! Thanks.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K3EST
> CQ WW Director
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> From: "Dmitri Bagno (RW3FO)" <bagno@mai.ru>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
>
> Two nice certificates came today for EuSprint 2001 --
> thank you Paolo, Dave, Bernhard & Karel!
>
> --Dmitri (RW3FO)
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> From: "Alan Maenchen" <ad6e@inreach.com>
> To: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>, <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
>
> Thanks Dave for bringing this to light.
> Its one of the reasons I've un-subscribed to CQ-Contest
>
> If NS3T doesn't want to see all those spots he should turn it off.
>
> So far as "self spotting" goes, he should correlate the spotter to be one
of
> the operators at said spotted station. Looks like his list is simply a
list
> of frequently spotted stations .. not self spotted. However, even that may
> not "work" since an operator can legally spot a M/M station while he is
> operating somewhere else, then go work from that M/M later (or earlier).
No
> problem for non-ARRL contests.
>
> Al AD6E (also, part-time op at KX7M)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>
> To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 17:06
> Subject: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
>
>
> > Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like to
> set
> > the record
> > straight for one and all
> >
> > I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX whenever I
> was
> > in S&P
> > mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many were
dx,
> > many were
> > domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O numerous
> times
> > is in
> > no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can only
spot
> a
> > station
> > once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say, that's my
> > favorite band.
> > NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact was in
> > friendly
> > competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East and
West
> > coast
> > stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed because
I
> > didn't happen
> > to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I
> appreciated
> > the spots
> > that others posted.
> >
> > Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need this
crap
> > in our hobby.
> >
> > Dave Tucker KA6BIM
> >
> >
> >
> > Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
> >
> > "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> > contest over
> > the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
> > reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
> > disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
> > to those in charge of the WPX contest.
> >
> > I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
> > spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
> > they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
> > of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
> >
> > MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
> >
> > 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
> >
> > 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
> >
> > 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
> >
> > 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
> >
> > 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
> >
> > 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
> >
> > 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
> >
> > 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
> >
> > 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> > PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
> >
> > 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
> >
> >
> > More later.
> >
> > Jamie NS3T"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
> Message: 11
> From: "Jamie Dupree" <ns3t@arrl.net>
> To: <jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
> Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: spotting statistics
>
> Jim -
>
> Thanks for your note.
>
> I should have been more clear in my original posting. I opened the
> discussion about self spotting, but then posted data on something else.
> That was probably a mistake and has resulted in a bit of tempest. :-)
>
> So here is the background that some have asked for...and I
> am making NO judgment about these spots. I simply thought
> the raw numbers of spots were interesting, that's why I posted them
> in the first place.
>
> The reason I got into this is that during the ARRL contest, someone
> spotted under my call. A quick review showed that's happening more
> than we would probably like to admit...but that is not what these
> numbers are about. These are raw numbers of what stations
> spotted another station the most - that's all.
> ---
>
> IR3P made 30 spots of FM5GU - IR3P made no other spots
> in the contest.
>
> S51QN made 28 spots of S58M - S51QN made only one
> other spot in the contest.
>
> CE4CVN made 28 spots of CB4A - CE4VCN made a total of
> 38 spots in the WPX.
>
> OK1WWJ made 21 spots of OL5T - OK1WWJ made only
> two other contest spots that weekend.
>
> RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times - RK3QWA made
> 112 spots in the WPX.
>
> N2QER spotted NY6DX 13 times - N2QER made 33 total spots.
>
> UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - UR7IJQ made only
> one other WPX contest spot.
>
> PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - PY2SBY made
> a total of 28 spots in the contest.
>
> KA6BIM spotted NR6O 10 times - as KA6BIM has pointed
> out, he made many more overall spots, a total of 436,
> making this a very small minority.
>
> KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - KC5JSO made a
> total of 19 WPX spots.
>
> So there we go. I am making no wild accusations here -
> I'm just running numbers and looking for a discussion.
> I'm not trying to discourage spotting or cast it in a negative
> light. I still plan to talk further about self spots. But that
> is later, not in the above numbers.
>
> Jamie NS3T
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> Reply-To: <w5xd@writelog.com>
> From: "W. Wright, W5XD" <w5xd@writelog.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots. who needs 'em?
>
> Am I the only person on the planet that thinks running packet in a contest
> REDUCES the enjoyment of the weekend? If the guys that are complaining at
> each other about abusing packet would all just quit using it, they might
> discover you enjoy the sense of accomplishment that comes with finding
your
> own multipliers.
>
> As a software vendor I get requests that I can paraphrase as "please
improve
> the aim of your software for shooting fish in a barrel--there were 100
fish
> in that barrel last weekend and I could have shot more than 90 of them if
> your software were better". I do attempt to "improve the aim" (should I?),
> but one the great mysteries of life is why folks don't try to go find fish
> that haven't been put the the barrel yet?
>
> Wayne, W5XD
>
>
>
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>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sun Apr 14 15:59:03 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
Message-ID: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
I hate to reinvent the wheel, don't have a lot of time to homebrew or
put together kits, and don't know much about operating so2r besides what
I have seen from a few guest operators. But I am ready to buy the stuff
needed to make a better so2r setup option on my m/m station. I am
looking to buy as much as possible, preferably including cables already
made up.
The equipment would be:
2x ft-1000mp
heil proset headset
ct or na logging software
dvp board for voice keying
aea morsemachine or other external keyer(s)
each band has its own coax coming in to the table
What I am looking for are suggestions for 2 or 3 things:
1. a headset/keyer/mic/dvp switch with cables
2. a 6 antenna to 2 radio antenna switch with band decoder for each
radio and control cables.
3. a 6 band 2 radio bandpass filter switch for between the radios and
amps, or possibly two separate switched bandpass filters with cables and
decoder.
Could one decoder run both the antenna switch and bandpass filter
switch?
What is available off the shelf to do this?
What are the pro's and con's of different models that are available, if
there are choices?
Is it better to run 1 computer or 2?? Why??
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Sun Apr 14 12:22:23 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dodgy spotting
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHAECHDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
NS3T's second cut at data clearly shows that David, WA6BIM, wasn't doing
anything wrong. (Jamie's FIRST cut at data, by the way, did NOT
say that anyone necessarily did anything untoward...he made NO
ACCUSATIONS. Some folks were sensitive.)
What we know, from Brett-VR2BG, from Jamie-NS3T, and from others on
CQDXirc, is that not all spots come from the station whose callsign
is indicated as the author. If we were to take the top 3 on Jamie's
list, I bet we'd find that at least ONE of them didn't make those spots.
This is going to be hard to administrate, and hard to monitor. The
potential for cloaked self-spotting exists, or for 'team' behavior,
where a friend cloaks--or doesn't--and spots his expedition buddy.
I am not convinced that extensive spotting actually produces a real
advantage. Serious contesters will have you on their band map, which
probably dupe-filters. Casual players may not be on packet at all.
There may be a few who chase DX, and chase spots...but they're not an
infinite supply of Q's...and duplicate spotting may only yield a very
small additional benefit.
On the down side....those spots may attract QRP stations, who will
destroy your rate, as you try to pull them out!
Simple, relaxed rules are best. Anything more can't be enforced.
Jim Jarvis, N2EA
Essex Vermont
ps: (VR2BG...you were pounding in, here in VT on 15 this morning, Brett!)
>From w6rw at earthlink.net Sun Apr 14 11:47:41 2002
From: w6rw@earthlink.net (Michael S. Mitchell, W6RW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB reports
References: <002d01c1e3af$77f06630$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <3CB9C0BC.CCB3BDCF@earthlink.net>
They used to publish it in the CQ Contest magazine before if became a
dinasour!
David Robbins wrote:
> Is there someplace were a summary of ubn statistics is published? Best,
> worst, average, type breakdowns??
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
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>From W4EF at dellroy.com Sun Apr 14 13:08:27 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Mike)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
<5.1.0.14.0.20020413144147.0532caa0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <137601c1e3e7$c2266050$6501a8c0@1800XP>
Pete,
I thought this was an April Fools joke, but apparently it
is not (its dated April 11, 2002):
http://www.wrtc2002.org/news18.htm
I don't know what all the fuss is about, 2 more good
operators competing against a bunch of other good
operators. I don't see how Ali's financial resources
will give Jeff and Phil any advantage during the
competition except that maybe he can by them
each a pair silk underwear or treat them to a pre-
competition massage to keep them relaxed
and focused?
73 de Mike, W4EF (aka Elmer Fudd)..........................
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
> At 08:00 PM 4/13/02 +0200, Kele YT3T wrote:
> >Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
> >U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> I have been searching in vain for the press release that started all this
> -- The WRTC web site does not have press release #18. Could it possibly
be
> a hoax? If not, could someone either send me the text directly or point
me
> to a URL?
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
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>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Sun Apr 14 16:44:57 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204141528140.23160-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Can't believe the whining about this team. Forget that both ops are world
class. Forget that they announced this team well in advance.
The OH's are putting on this event. It is THEIR contest. If they want to
invite novice ops from OH0 who are sons of the biggest donor... its OK
with me. They are doing all the work and coming up with all the money
required to pull it off. To publically criticize them for any of their
choices seems to me to be in very poor taste.
As for money talks.... I will put my spot up for the highest bidder.
Proceeds to benefit the event. Any talkers? eerrrr takers?
73
Bill Fisher
>From dick.green at valley.net Sun Apr 14 17:39:27 2002
From: dick.green@valley.net (Dick Green)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy (long)
In-Reply-To: <F114eX2GOC9GBDYnV7j000166f5@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICELFCHAA.dick.green@valley.net>
During the past couple of years, I've been reluctant to comment on
electronic QSL issues because I was working on the LOTW design. I felt that
it would be inappropriate to say anything until the design and project had
been approved by the ARRL Board and announced to the membership. Also, I'm
not a League employee or spokesperson, and didn't want anyone to think I was
stating ARRL policy.
But now that LOTW has been announced and my part of the project is over, I
think it's OK for me to comment on some of the issues that have been raised
as a result of eQSL's change of policy. Please bear in mind that I'm
speaking for me, not ARRL, and that the LOTW specifications are subject to
change.
1. I resent the unfounded accusation that the "QSL technologists" somehow
forced a policy change on DXCC. Nothing of the sort happened. We could
easily have designed LOTW to allow browsing of unsolicited QSLs without
compromising security (our main concern), but were specifically instructed
by DXCC not to do so. LOTW does not permit users to examine unconfirmed QSLs
for the same reason DXCC has had a long-standing policy of discouraging
DXpeditioners from posting all QSO data from their logs on the Internet.
Regardless of any loopholes in the DXCC rules, it's never been right for
WC1M to get a card that was really intended for WY1M, or for WC1M to get a
20M CW confirmation when he incorrectly logged the QSO on 10M a day later.
I'm surprised that a contester wouldn't understand this -- after all, you
don't get credit when you log a contest QSO incorrectly. I suppose another
reason for discouraging the posting of full logs is that it would encourage
people in pileups to call and call, regardless of whether they can hear the
DX or not, in the hope that they will be worked and can get the QSO data
from an online log. Speaking as an Honor Roll and 5BDXCC DXer, I welcome any
DXCC policies that discourage poor operating practice (which, to me,
includes failing to accurately log a contact.)
2. Another completely unfounded accusation is that ARRL forced eQSL to
change its policy by dangling the prospect of DXCC acceptance. eQSL's claim
that the policy change takes them a step closer to acceptance for DXCC
credit is probably a figment of their imagination. They may perceive that
the big problem was browsing of unconfirmed QSLs (which DXCC certainly
frowns on), but as others have stated, the real problem with eQSL is its
lack of data security (see below.) There was no way for us to design LOTW to
be compatible because eQSL doesn't meet even minimal security standards
required to protect the integrity of the DXCC program. While it's
theoretically possible for third parties to securely collect QSO data
according to the LOTW specification, I recommended that ARRL develop its own
version of the system because over the long haul DXCC can't rely exclusively
on the viability of outside vendors. Even if outside vendors are used to
securely collect QSO data, ARRL cannot rely on any external entity to issue
credentials for using LOTW. That function completely controls the integrity
of LOTW and DXCC, which is the sole responsibility of ARRL (see
authentication, #9, below.)
3. It's been said that "The requirement to upload electronic logs in order
to receive QSLs will filter out thousands of potential users." This is an
extreme and baseless claim. First of all, it's not all that hard. You don't
have to submit your entire log -- you can extract and submit whatever QSOs
you want to confirm, although most participants will probably find it easier
just to upload the latest additions to their log. In either case, ARRL plans
to work with log program authors to ensure that this process is as simple
and automated as possible. A stand-alone program for manually entering QSOs
will be provided for those who do not use logging software. If you want a
confirmation, all you have to do is enter the data. It's hard to believe
that thousands will reject LOTW because of this simple requirement.
4. There's something funny about the demand that LOTW allow users to view
and print unsolicited QSLs without uploading matching log data. Does this
mean it's OK to completely ignore the confirmation request? Presumably, the
sender wants a response, but you don't have to give one. You can go merrily
about getting your card or DXCC without giving anyone your card, state or
county. That doesn't seem very friendly. Yes, you can do the same with paper
cards, but how many people hang unsolicited cards on the wall or submit them
to DXCC without having the courtesy to respond? Probably not very many. I
certainly don't (I'd feel guilty!) If most people do in fact respond, then
they have to do some work -- e.g., write out a card. Why is that any
different from uploading a log entry to LOTW or using the stand-alone
program to enter the QSO data? Are the proponents really arguing for the
right to print an unsolicited QSL or use it for awards credit without
providing a response? Will thousands of selfish potential users hate LOTW
for this?
5. But it's not really about the effort of uploading logs -- the real
argument here is that you shouldn't be required to log a contact in order to
receive a confirmation. This argument says you should be able to get a card
without giving your version of the contact information, or that it's OK to
simply echo back the information on the unsolicited QSL. As I said before, I
believe it's poor operating practice not to log a contact, and I believe
it's even worse practice to confirm the data on an unsolicited QSL unless it
matches a log entry (otherwise, in my book, it's NIL.) What if the sender is
mistaken about the time, date, mode or band? How meaningful is the card when
both stations haven't independently verified the data? Pretty pictures, I
guess. Then why not just exchange card images via e-mail or post them on a
website? There's no need to fill in the QSO data because it doesn't mean
anything. Given the it's poor quality, the data certainly should not be used
for awards credit, and then you don't need a central electronic QSL facility
at all.
6. Unlike eQSL, LOTW's primary purpose is not to produce QSL card images for
confirmed contacts. The goal for LOTW is to enhance DXCC and other award
programs, where the QSO information is supremely meaningful. As such, the
requirements of the DXCC program dictate much of the design. LOTW is
intended to speed up, simplify and reduce the cost of the awards
confirmation process for applicants and HQ, while maintaining or improving
the integrity of DXCC data. Rather than filtering out thousands of potential
users, the simplicity of uploading logs to LOTW for awards credit will
likely attract many amateurs who have avoided the awards program because of
the hassle, high cost and lengthy delays to obtain paper QSL cards.
Hopefully this, and the potential benefit of being able to obtain QSL images
from the same uploaded log data, will greatly outweigh the requirement to
upload logs and the restriction on viewing unconfirmed or unsolicited QSLs.
7. From the beginning, LOTW was designed to be a confirmation system. In
other words, both stations submit QSO data and LOTW automatically matches
them to obtain confirmations. It's analogous to what a QSL manager does,
except that confirmations are automatically routed to DXCC for pending
awards credit. Automatic confirmation is one of the big differences between
LOTW and the original eQSL design, and perhaps one reason why eQSL changed
their policy. Until the change, eQSL functioned more like an electronic
clearinghouse - a central repository of QSO data that facilitated manual
confirmation by users. LOTW's automatic confirmation means that you don't
have to decide, on a QSO-by-QSO basis, which contacts to confirm. You don't
have to pick through the incoming QSO data to determine which QSOs are
needed for credit and you don't have to do anything to submit them to DXCC.
Just upload your log and the rest is automatic.
8. Another crucial, and much more important, difference between LOTW and
eQSL is security of the data. Long before I entered the picture, ARRL had
been considering various designs for electronic QSLs. One of their biggest
concerns was the potential for modification of the QSO data. For example, I
receive an electronic QSL from 5A1A for 20M SSB, make a copy and change the
data to 10M CW so the confirmation will count for my 10M DXCC award. This is
trivially easy to do with computer data unless certain security precautions
are taken. I was one of several amateurs who suggested to ARRL that digital
signatures using public key cryptography could solve this and other security
problems. Digitally signed QSO data can't be altered without detection and
we can be positive that the signature came from a specific digital ID. To my
knowledge, no other method provides these safeguards. It may be argued that
this is stronger than the security of paper QSLs, but what's wrong with
that? Just because the old system wasn't secure, it doesn't mean the new one
shouldn't be. The extra security isn't necessary for exchanging pretty
postcards, but it sure enhances the integrity of the awards program.
9. A major problem for any security system, whether it be based on digital
IDs or passwords, is authentication. This is the process of determining the
identity of the person requesting the digital ID or password and safely
distributing the ID or password to that person. In the case of amateur
radio, the question is not so much identity per se, but callsign ownership.
The key requirement is that only the owner of a particular callsign, or a
QSL manager authorized by the owner, can digitally sign QSO data for that
callsign. But when some random online user claims to own a callsign, how do
we know he's telling the truth? It's a very difficult problem to solve, and
there are many tradeoffs. By far, this part of the LOTW design took the most
time and effort to work out. Almost half of the 83-page specification is
devoted to discussing authentication and related topics. Nine different
approaches were analyzed in great detail, including possible attack
scenarios and consequences. Using ARRL membership and e-mail addresses for
authentication, as suggested on this reflector, ranked among the weakest
methods (i.e., easy to cheat.)
10. Why so much security? Is it really necessary to use such advanced
methods to protect data that, in the final analysis, is important only to
hobbyists? Well, let's all remember the uproar that occurred when certain
DXpeditioners were found to have lied about the locations of some rare
operations (I can think of two famous cases.) One of the perpetrators was
also suspected of denying contacts to people he didn't like. Over the years,
the DXCC desk has intercepted plenty of altered cards and other attempts to
cheat the system. While some participants just say, "they're only cheating
themselves", others get pretty annoyed. Some feel quite diminished by the
thought of a cheater getting an Honor Roll plaque when they're still working
for it after 20 years and $1,000 in postage. There are others who, right or
wrong, aggressively protect their position in the Honor Roll list and would
be very vocal if "beaten" by a cheater. Although some may not take DXCC
seriously, there are many participants who take it very seriously, spend a
lot of money chasing awards, and care deeply about the integrity of the
program. I don't understand why anyone would cheat, but out of millions of
hams worldwide we're going to get quite a few who will.
11. There's a lot more to it than simple cheating -- there's also the
potential for malicious persons to undermine the integrity of the system by
stuffing it with lots of false data. A partial honor system works for paper
QSLs from non-rare entities because it's a lot of work to promulgate fake
cards on a big scale. Paper forgeries are likely to affect a small number of
people, or only the perpetrator. But computer fraud can be much more
damaging than paper fraud because it's easy to quickly duplicate the fraud
dozens, hundreds or thousands of times over. For example, without security I
could submit bogus P5 confirmations for hundreds of random callsigns in the
callbook. How does the computer know I'm not the real P5? For that matter, I
could submit bogus confirmations from any rare callsign. OK, let's say ARRL
doesn't allow electronic QSLs from rare entities unless mailed in on a
floppy disk with paper proof (sort of a pain for the DX station.) Then I'll
just flood the system with thousands of fake DL and OK confirmations. No one
will know who has a legitimate DL or OK and who doesn't. Don't care if DL or
OK cards are legit? How about the semi-rare ones that DXCC doesn't check?
Should we add more work for the DX and DXCC by requiring a floppy and paper
proof for those QSOs, too? What happens if someone hacks the ARRL server and
changes the QSO data for hundreds of users? What if a disgruntled ARRL
employee alters thousands of incoming QSL records just to get back at the
boss? How can we know whether any given QSO record was altered after it left
the sender's computer? Without good answers to these and many other
questions (or, worse, if a breach occurs), the LOTW system and the DXCC
program will be perceived to lack integrity. Once that horse gets out of the
barn, it'll be too late to put it back in.
12. One of the truisms in system design is that security and convenience
have an inverse relationship: the harder it is to breach a system, the less
convenient it will be to use (there can be tradeoffs with privacy, too --
e.g., are you prepared to let the government keep a digital copy of your
fingerprints in their database?) Much of the design work for LOTW involved
vigorous debates over this tradeoff. Everyone wanted the system to be
secure, but everyone also wanted it to be easy to use. KR1G and I were hired
to be the security experts, so naturally we advocated for as strong a system
as possible. ARRL staffers insisted on integrity of the system, but pushed
very hard to make it easy to get started and easy to use. I can assure you
that at all times the needs of LOTW's customers were paramount in everyone's
mind. In the end, it was hard for us to escape one piece of logic: you can
start out with strong security and, if it's too inconvenient, relax the
rules later on. But you can't do it the other way around.
13. Although automated software will not be provided for amateur-to-amateur
QSLing, the system design allows it. In theory, you can extract QSO data,
digitally sign it, send the signed QSO data to another station (for whom it
was unsolicited), get a confirming digitally signed QSO record in return,
then e-mail both records to LOTW for confirmation and awards credit for both
stations (or the station getting the unsolicited QSO data can send it in
along with his signed matching QSO data.) It doesn't matter who actually
e-mails the QSO data to LOTW -- it only matters that there are matching
records, each digitally signed by one of the stations. That said, I don't
know why anyone would go through the trouble. It's much easier just to
upload your log and forget about it. Besides, what DXpedition would want to
receive 50,000 e-mails before they even leave the island? Or have to send
50,000 e-mails back? The point is this: application design should be
appropriate for the medium that will be used. It is often the case that
mirroring a bricks-and-mortar or snail-mail design is not the best approach
for the Internet.
14. Someone wondered whether contest logs submitted to ARRL could
automatically get into LOTW. The implementation team is responsible for
selecting the LOTW format and I don't know what they settled on. My
understanding is that Cabrillo won't be adequate for all the QSO data we
might want to submit. Also, each LOTW record has to be digitally signed,
which is not part of the Cabrillo standard. The original spec for LOTW
records didn't have a field for a contest exchange, but I don't know what
the final spec will be. My conclusion is that it's likely you will have to
do two e-mail submissions: one in Cabrillo for the contest sponsor and one
in LOTW format for DXCC. As long as logging programs support the LOTW format
(as is hoped), it won't be a huge hardship to do two e-mails, and maybe the
logging programs will make this transparent to the user. It's entirely
possible that the two formats will merge down the road so that only one
submission will be required.
15. I plan to use LOTW for two things: 1) to get awards credit (faster
turnaround time, zero postage cost and no stolen cards/greenstamps/IRCs),
and 2) to ease the burden of responding to thousands of requests for contest
QSLs. I'll use mail or the buro to request a card for any new entity that I
work or from DXpeditions that offer interesting cards. But I'll get DXCC
credit right away through LOTW and I won't clog up the buro with new
band/mode requests or preemptive contest QSLs. My hope is that most contest
stations will stop preemptive QSLing and use LOTW instead. If paper QSLs are
requested only by those who really want them, or those who don't have access
to LOTW, then the burden on the buro, QSL managers and contest operators
should be greatly reduced.
I hope this too-lengthy e-mail sheds some light on the subject. Given that
full details about LOTW won't be released until the system becomes
available, it's understandable that there are some misimpressions about it.
But I would hope that in the future people would refrain from making
statements about the actions and motives of others without first
ascertaining the facts.
73, Dick WC1M
>From artinian at siol.net Sun Apr 14 21:41:12 2002
From: artinian@siol.net (Marijan Miletic, S56A)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PACKET AND SPOTTING
References: <02b401c1e257$87f81860$5a2afea9@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <018801c1e3f4$b7ae66b0$0100a8c0@S56A>
The pain is even greater in Internet addicts :-)
Stick with CW and HF radio!
73 de Mario, S56A, N1YU slowly packing for KH1
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Neiger" <n6tj@sbcglobal.net>
To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:23 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PACKET AND SPOTTING
> I read with great amusement of all the foibles the packet-eers have thrust
> upon themselves with accusations of "self spotting", etc etc, ad nauseum.
>
> Be careful of what you ask for. You just might get it.
>
>
> Jim Neiger
> N6TJ
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>From jjreisert at alum.mit.edu Sun Apr 14 19:52:44 2002
From: jjreisert@alum.mit.edu (Jim Reisert AD1C)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team U.A.E.
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020414185055.01590c98@mail.attbi.com>
This didn't make it to the CQ-Contest reflector, so here it is.
73 - Jim AD1C
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES TEAM (A61AJ) INVITED TO WRTC 2002
As part of its original plan for the WRTC 2002 event, the WRTC2002
organizing committee reserved the right to select one team with special
characteristics, while maintaining the high quality operator criteria
established as a hallmark for the WRTC 2002 games.
With this objective in mind, at its meeting on April 8, 2002, the committee
decided to invite a team from the United Arab Emirates (A61AJ) to be the
representative of the contesting community in the Middle East.
The teams operating from A61AJ have achieved superb results over the past
few years and this action seeks to recognize this fact. The inclusion of
this special team is thus viewed as a positive addition to the games.
Team UAE will be led by Ali Al-Futtaim, A61AJ, who has been the driving
force behind the development of what is one of the premier contest
superstations in the Middle East and Asia. In the spirit of the games, a
team has been selected that is representative of the current A61AJ
operating roster. While his team members are U.S. nationals, they also
represent the A61AJ team as it now stands in the contesting landscape.
Accordingly, we are delighted to welcome Ali Al-Futtaim, A61AJ, and his
operating team of Jeff Briggs, K1ZM, and Phil Goetz, N6ZZ, to the games as
the WRTC 2002 special team selection.
WRTC2002 Organizing Committee
--
Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863
USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
>From VE3ZT at rac.ca Sun Apr 14 21:06:38 2002
From: VE3ZT@rac.ca (Paul-VE3ZT)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots. who needs 'em?
In-Reply-To: <000d01c1e34c$870dc210$6400000a@W5XD>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020414200109.00a6bc50@pop6.sympatico.ca>
Hi Wayne,
I thought there was something wrong with me until I read your post. At
least there are two of us who can't be bothered with that packet stuff.
Getting the beam pointed to within 20 or 30 degrees of Europe is high-tech
enough for me.
cu in the next one,
Paul, VE3ZT
________________
At 08:37 PM 13/04/2002, W. Wright, W5XD, you said...
>Am I the only person on the planet that thinks running packet in a contest
>REDUCES the enjoyment of the weekend? If the guys that are complaining at
>each other about abusing packet would all just quit using it, they might
>discover you enjoy the sense of accomplishment that comes with finding your
>own multipliers.
>
>As a software vendor I get requests that I can paraphrase as "please improve
>the aim of your software for shooting fish in a barrel--there were 100 fish
>in that barrel last weekend and I could have shot more than 90 of them if
>your software were better". I do attempt to "improve the aim" (should I?),
>but one the great mysteries of life is why folks don't try to go find fish
>that haven't been put the the barrel yet?
>
>Wayne, W5XD
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>From jjreisert at alum.mit.edu Sun Apr 14 21:17:16 2002
From: jjreisert@alum.mit.edu (Jim Reisert AD1C)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dodgy spotting
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHAECHDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020414201339.00b3cd98@mail.attbi.com>
At 11:22 AM 4/14/2002 -0400, jljarvis wrote:
>What we know, from Brett-VR2BG, from Jamie-NS3T, and from others on
>CQDXirc, is that not all spots come from the station whose callsign
>is indicated as the author.
Exactly! Here is a spot made during CQ WPX SSB:
AD1C 14215.1 OT2A says he is running 10 kW!! 0706 31 Mar 2002
The only reason I knew about this was I got an E-mail from one of the
operators denying the 10KW charge. But I never made the spot! I wasn't
even in the contest, except to give the prefix to a few friends. Second,
0706z is 2:06 a.m. local time and I was sound asleep.
73 - Jim AD1C
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USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
>From kr1g at hotmail.com Mon Apr 15 02:40:57 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
Message-ID: <F1065HfqR77bieLYCT400005f1c@hotmail.com>
I agree with Bill 100% - its the OH's event. I can't even imagine the amount
of work they're doing, but I'm grateful even though i can't be there.
Its their contest, its their show - let them do what they see fit.
They can invite George Bush as an op, Yassar Arafat as the master of
ceremonies, run a seance in conjunction with the event trying to contact
great silent key contesters, or even invite relatively inexperienced ops and
give them stacks and amps for comic relief. I won't complain.
Bill, I won't bid on your spot - I'd only embarrass myself!
Well, I haven't read the whining - i don't *like* whining. Even though I'm
whining against whining myself.
Lets leave the OHs alone and let them do the fantastic good I'm sure they
will,
73
Ted KR1G
>From: "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com>
>To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
>
>
>Can't believe the whining about this team. Forget that both ops are world
>class. Forget that they announced this team well in advance.
>
>The OH's are putting on this event. It is THEIR contest. If they want to
>invite novice ops from OH0 who are sons of the biggest donor... its OK
>with me. They are doing all the work and coming up with all the money
>required to pull it off. To publically criticize them for any of their
>choices seems to me to be in very poor taste.
>
>As for money talks.... I will put my spot up for the highest bidder.
>Proceeds to benefit the event. Any talkers? eerrrr takers?
>
>73
>
>Bill Fisher
>
>
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>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Sun Apr 14 19:56:32 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204141528140.23160-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <014601c1e420$c47b8400$c46f7e42@sbcglobal.net>
The fact of the matter is: hosting a successful WRTC today is big business.
And certainly not-for-profit. Nor, apparently, in some circles, for credit
or gratitude, either.
Of course, money talks. I seem to recall the initial Finnish budget was of
the order of $200,000, with one-half coming from a major commercial sponsor.
Not exactly pocket change for anyone. Just where do all the purists think
this money is coming from?
Perhaps any future WRTC's will cost even more. What's the chance of any of
these future events happening if potential host nations become so disgusted
with what the Finn's experienced, that they wouldn't touch it with a 10
meter dipole?
I have known quite a few of the OH contesters, well, for over 30 years. A
MORE SERIOUS group of contesters you will not find.
We must (1) give them credit for even taking on the challenge of hosting
WRTC2002 (especially now in the post 9/11 era), and (2) assume they know
what they are doing.
If accepting "help" from any outside source, they believe to be the BEST way
to do it, why can't we simply stand back, and shut-up. Unless we can offer
some concrete assistance to them. More criticism, I'm sure, is what they
don't need.
If there ever is another WRTC, perhaps the financial help could come from
the formal formation of support organizations (kind of like the Political
Action Comittees in the USA), where EACH TWO MAN TEAM acquires sponsors, and
fund raising efforts, and the like, with 100% of the proceeds going to the
host WRTC Committee?
Jim Neiger
N6TJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 12:44 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
>
> Can't believe the whining about this team. Forget that both ops are world
> class. Forget that they announced this team well in advance.
>
> The OH's are putting on this event. It is THEIR contest. If they want to
> invite novice ops from OH0 who are sons of the biggest donor... its OK
> with me. They are doing all the work and coming up with all the money
> required to pull it off. To publically criticize them for any of their
> choices seems to me to be in very poor taste.
>
> As for money talks.... I will put my spot up for the highest bidder.
> Proceeds to benefit the event. Any talkers? eerrrr takers?
>
> 73
>
> Bill Fisher
>
>
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>From k3pp at ptd.net Sun Apr 14 23:51:36 2002
From: k3pp@ptd.net (Glenn O'Donnell, K3PP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION>
Hi Dave,
I have the Top Ten DX Doubler SO2R controller, the Top Ten Band Decoders,
and a WX0B Six-Pak and it is a VY FB arrangement. A TTD decoder (with the
source-driver option) can drive both the Six-Pak and a I.C.E. multi-band
bandpass filter. The key is, some devices switch to ground (the filter) and
others switch to +12v (the Six-Pak). For the SO2R controller, there is also
the WX0B SO2R Master. The DXD is less expensive and I prefer the layout
and physical packaging, but both are great units.
With one computer, you can control everything from WriteLog, CT, or NA (and
I suspect TR, although I've never tried it). One computer consumes less
real estate, requires only one human interface, and is less trouble. I
can't say enough good things about this arrangement. All I need is another
amp, another bandpass filter, and time to use it all (and a lot of practice
to get the most out of it!), and I'll be in tip-top shape.
VY 73 de Glenn K3PP
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Robbins" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
To: "reflector cq-contest" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 10:59 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> I hate to reinvent the wheel, don't have a lot of time to homebrew or
> put together kits, and don't know much about operating so2r besides what
> I have seen from a few guest operators. But I am ready to buy the stuff
> needed to make a better so2r setup option on my m/m station. I am
> looking to buy as much as possible, preferably including cables already
> made up.
>
> The equipment would be:
> 2x ft-1000mp
> heil proset headset
> ct or na logging software
> dvp board for voice keying
> aea morsemachine or other external keyer(s)
> each band has its own coax coming in to the table
>
> What I am looking for are suggestions for 2 or 3 things:
> 1. a headset/keyer/mic/dvp switch with cables
> 2. a 6 antenna to 2 radio antenna switch with band decoder for each
> radio and control cables.
> 3. a 6 band 2 radio bandpass filter switch for between the radios and
> amps, or possibly two separate switched bandpass filters with cables and
> decoder.
>
> Could one decoder run both the antenna switch and bandpass filter
> switch?
>
> What is available off the shelf to do this?
>
> What are the pro's and con's of different models that are available, if
> there are choices?
>
> Is it better to run 1 computer or 2?? Why??
>
>
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
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>From tavan at tibco.com Sun Apr 14 22:02:26 2002
From: tavan@tibco.com (Rick Tavan)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <3CBA50D2.F6236E1A@tibco.com>
I'm also an SO2R beginner. I took it up mainly so I could write upbeat,
encouraging columns about the experience for the NCCC newsletter. So if you get
responses from the Great Ones, listen to them more carefully. FWIW, here's what
I got and am pretty happy with (in order of your questions):
1. Top Ten Devices DX Doubler - well thought out, simple to use. Just plug in
the rigs, the
paddel, an (optional) external keyer, the computer, the phones and the mic.
Includes an optional cable for the 1000MP which is OK although the
connectors
and stiff cables stick out awkwardly from the radio. Good review of this
box in NCJ
recently by N0AX I believe.
Note that if you want to put an external DVK between the mic and the DXD
you will
need to make up a cable with a male mic connector. Rare. I'm doing it this
way but some of
the logging programs allegedly do well with sound cards in the computer and
that would
be a simpler hook-up.
2. WX0B Array Solutions Six Pack two radio antenna switch does exactly what you
want.
3. I got a pair of Dunestar 600 BPFs. One is driven by a Top Ten Band Decoder
for the 1000MP. (You will need one decoder for each MP). My second radio is a
930 so I have to use a manual switch for its filter. I got the decoder with two
sets of outputs so I can, in theory, drive the MP half of the Six Pack
automatically. Haven't hooked that up yet but I'm confident it can be made to
work. You have to build up a little diode matrix if any one feedline serves
more than one band. If you have multiple antennas for some bands, you may
prefer not to automate antenna switching.
You absolutely, positively want to use a single computer to drive this stuff
for SO2R. Don't even think about two. Programs like trlog understand you are
SO2R and do a lot of the headstanding for you. The DX Doubler has a cable to
the (single) computer that eliminates lots of custom cabling in and out of your
computer's parallel port. You don't want to worry about two keyboards and don't
have to with this setup. OTOH, if you want to do M/S you will have to have two
computers and network them. I've seen this done but never set it up myself.
The main alternative to all this stuff seems to be the Array Solutions SO2R
Master. I found several excellent contesters using each box. SO2R Master has
most of the connections on a box with no controls so it can be out of the way
behind the rigs. But the switch box takes up desk space. But it has nice
switches. The DX Doubler fits nicely under my rigs which sit on a shelf
supported by 2x4's. If you keep your rigs at table level, this may be a
problem. I chose DX Doubler because I understood the switch labels and N6RO
recommended it. But K5RC recommended SO2R Master. Study the ergonomics and pick
one.
If you have a second-radio antenna that is far away from the primary radio,
consider skipping the BPFs. Mine are quite unnecessary when I have Rig 1 on the
tribander and Rig 2 on the vertical 300' away. OTOH, when Rig 2 is on the 40m
rotary dipole on the same boom as the tribander, the BPFs are the only thing
that keeps the 20m receiver from turning to toast.
I have one RFI problem with this setup - the TTD band decoder gets funny when I
transmit on 10m so I have to switch in the 10m filter manually. Even with the
DXD you end up with quite a rat's nest of cables so I advise you to be more
careful with cable construction, grounding and connections.
It has been much more fun integrating all this stuff than actually operating
SO2R. That's hard! ;-)
73,
Rick N6XI
David Robbins wrote:
> I hate to reinvent the wheel, don't have a lot of time to homebrew or
> put together kits, and don't know much about operating so2r besides what
> I have seen from a few guest operators. But I am ready to buy the stuff
> needed to make a better so2r setup option on my m/m station. I am
> looking to buy as much as possible, preferably including cables already
> made up.
>
> The equipment would be:
> 2x ft-1000mp
> heil proset headset
> ct or na logging software
> dvp board for voice keying
> aea morsemachine or other external keyer(s)
> each band has its own coax coming in to the table
>
> What I am looking for are suggestions for 2 or 3 things:
> 1. a headset/keyer/mic/dvp switch with cables
> 2. a 6 antenna to 2 radio antenna switch with band decoder for each
> radio and control cables.
> 3. a 6 band 2 radio bandpass filter switch for between the radios and
> amps, or possibly two separate switched bandpass filters with cables and
> decoder.
>
> Could one decoder run both the antenna switch and bandpass filter
> switch?
>
> What is available off the shelf to do this?
>
> What are the pro's and con's of different models that are available, if
> there are choices?
>
> Is it better to run 1 computer or 2?? Why??
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
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>From ha5pp at yahoo.com Mon Apr 15 01:28:19 2002
From: ha5pp@yahoo.com (Zoltan Szoke)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 2002 Teams
Message-ID: <20020415072819.23678.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi Contesters,
Money talks...(??) (What does it mean?)
Only one JA-Team (In Slovenia: 3!!).
No Team-Oceania.
??
I think that the Finns (organizers) must find out
something. They want (simply) more teams for a bigger
competition. I believe in Finn's GOOD intent. (We
don't see the background, there is probably no
"enough" teams...)
Good luck to Organizers!
73
Zoli
HA5PP
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>From mitja.gregoric at hit.si Mon Apr 15 12:01:29 2002
From: mitja.gregoric@hit.si (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Mitja_Gregori=E8?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Lost LOG
Message-ID: <000901c1e45c$224fe4f0$4a284dc1@ng.hit.si>
Because of strange circumstances my WPX SSB log is lost for good.Things look
as far as im concerned desperate here.My mistake to trust to my computer and
to not make a copy.
Mike - S57LWG
E-mail: mitja.gregoric@hit.si
http://qsl.net/s57lwg
>From swca at swbell.net Mon Apr 15 08:13:38 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION>
Message-ID: <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
> With one computer, you can control everything from WriteLog, CT, or NA
(and
> I suspect TR, although I've never tried it).
TRlog can do all that. And more.
Mark, N5OT
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 15 07:33:40 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204151333.g3FDXeY19867@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
WX5S(@W6YX) 4553 1078 48 10,743,348 NCCC
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
NT6K 2254 845 48 4,173,455 NCCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
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USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
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USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
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USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
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USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
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USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
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USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
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USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
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USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
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USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
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USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
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USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
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USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
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USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
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USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
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USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
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USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 15 07:39:10 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
15Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204151339.g3FDdAQ19886@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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Non-USA M/M HP
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
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Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
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Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCC
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
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Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
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Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20h 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
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Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
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Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
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Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
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Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCC
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
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Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 464 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
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Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
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Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
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Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCC
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
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Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
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Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
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Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
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Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
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Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
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Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
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Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From s51ta at volja.net Mon Apr 15 16:37:10 2002
From: s51ta@volja.net (Tadej Mezek, S51TA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION> <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
Message-ID: <00d801c1e486$0fb14170$6c4548d9@home>
For SO2R the best software is TR (for now)-dualing CQ, but if writelog will
add some functions as they are on TR, writelog will be better i suppose.
The computers can do almost everything today so we must just wait a little
bit longer:)
I am using TR for so2r CW and writelog for SSB, because of voice keyer
symplicity...
73 Ted, s51ta
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Beckwith" <swca@swbell.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> > With one computer, you can control everything from WriteLog, CT, or NA
> (and
> > I suspect TR, although I've never tried it).
>
> TRlog can do all that. And more.
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
>
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 15 07:39:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204151339.g3FDdn019895@localhost.localdomain>
2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: jidx-hfcw@ne.nal.go.jp
Mail logs to:
JIDX HFCW Contest
c/o Five-Nine Magazine
PO Box 59
Kamata, Tokyo 144
Japan
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
AE0Q(@K0HM) 452 115 64,400 Grand Mesa
N0AC(@N0NI) 427 110 30 54,780
N2ED 255 96 7 29,184 FRC
K3WW 224 81 6 21,060 FRC
N6ZZ 192 82 20,910 SCCC
N9RV 161 70 3 15,190 SMC
VE7FO 120 70 9 10,780
N4GG 43 34 4 1,972 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
WN6K 238 88 21 30,008 SCCC
VE3BUC 86 47 5 4,042
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/10 LP
NT6K 127 41 5 10,414 NCCC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 15 07:40:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204151340.g3FDeQQ19906@localhost.localdomain>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCC
UA4LU 180 4 180
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
>From ns3t at arrl.net Mon Apr 15 10:58:52 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] re: dodgy spotting
Message-ID: <005501c1e485$b05924e0$5f20fccd@jvpcb01>
Your "spot" of OT2A was made thru a node in Germany.
73s Jamie NS3T
>AD1C 14215.1 OT2A says he is running 10 kW!! 0706 31 Mar 2002
>The only reason I knew about this was I got an E-mail from one of the
>operators denying the 10KW charge. But I never made the spot! I wasn't
>even in the contest, except to give the prefix to a few friends. Second,
>0706z is 2:06 a.m. local time and I was sound asleep.
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Mon Apr 15 13:24:45 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dodgy spotting
In-Reply-To: <200204142340.g3ENekAl002541@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020415120824.00d2c4a0@pop.pacific.net.hk>
N2EA added this, as well as other reasonable level-headed comments:
>I am not convinced that extensive spotting actually produces a real
>advantage.
It can be detrimental. I am often tempted to do self-spotting, but to
deliberately
mis-spot myself in hopes it reduces the mess these spots-gone-ballistic can
cause. I often am forced to abandon a run when things get messy like that.
>ps: (VR2BG...you were pounding in, here in VT on 15 this morning, Brett!)
I sensed the band was good, but so few called - even if I were serious in
JIDX HF CW this year, I'll happily work non-JAs when a JA isn't calling & even
reply to the pesky QSLs such contacts inevitably produce. JIDX is quickly
becoming no fun due to lack of activity & I'm sorry to say I spent most of the
weekend up on the roof enjoying the sun as a result.
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Mon Apr 15 17:58:59 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dodgy spotting
In-Reply-To: <200204151603.g3FG3RAl016620@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020415165035.00d2edf0@pop.pacific.net.hk>
Thanks to AD1C for noticing he too is making spots he didn't.
Anybody else?
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Apr 15 14:31:33 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R methodology
Message-ID: <008701c1e4a3$63643bc0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
I like to use two computers in SO2R because I am not that good at it...
The second station has its own keyboard and I can hunt and peck bits and
pieces of the callsign into it - maybe all or part of the exchange...and
once the timiong is right for a pause on the run rig and availability on the
secon d rig I hit F4...
If you only have one keyboard you can easily be overwhelmed...of course it
is more efficient and I am certain the winners have perfected their skills
along these lines...
Me I just am bored listening to myself call CQ so I do something else while
that is going on and at the same time fatten up the score....when it gets
too maddening I just run em....taking a pause from info overload...
Don't forget it is 12 days until the Florida QSO Party!
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
73,
Jim, K4OJ
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Mon Apr 15 16:20:33 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ web site?
Message-ID: <20020415152032.E4705@cs.utexas.edu>
Anybody know what's wrong with CQ's web site?
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Tue Apr 16 00:22:09 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Writelog-RSGB Jubilee contest
Message-ID: <VA.00000c13.00269c51@gw3njw>
Hi
The module is now ready to have the ribbon tied on, thanks to
Ray/G4FON with help from Wayne/W5XD. However before we do the
final packaging I would like to have a few Guinea pig beta
testers.
What you'd need to do at this stage is to load a .dll file into
the .......\Writelog\programs directory and register the dll
using regsvr32. If this sounds daunting, it's not, and even a
dummy like me can do it! The final package will be self
installing for anyone challenged in this area however.
If you'd like to help, please email me and I'll either send you
the file or tell you where to download it.
tia
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
Contest Cambria-http://www.gw7x.org
>From K4ZW at Staffnet.com Tue Apr 16 02:00:26 2002
From: K4ZW@Staffnet.com (Ken Claerbout)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
Message-ID: <006101c1e4e2$190cdde0$9d504fc6@main>
Here's what I'm using at my QTH.
1.) Single computer with Writelog
2.) W5XD SO2R box (mine is the old kit form)
3.) Sound card in PC for voice keyer
4.) Top Ten band decoders on both radios
5.) WX0B Six Pak antenna switch
6.) WX0B (W3NQN design) BPF on the second radio only (this filter is worth
the money)
I've been using this arrangement for 2 years. I'm very happy with the
way everything is working and have no plans to change the setup unless
something better comes along. Here is what I consider some of the benefits
of this arrangement.
1.) with a click of the mouse, I'm able to listen to the second radio in
both ears while the "run" radio is in transmit. Or, I can listen to TX & RX
of a single radio full time by switching out of the latch function. I could
never last 48 hours with a different radio in each ear.
2.) By hitting shift and down arrow, I can enter a call from the second
radio without interrupting the run radio. Personally, I find this much more
convenient than wrestling with two computers.
3.) The right channel audio output of the sound card is wired to the run
radio (on the right) and the left channel to the second radio. Writelog
routes the audio to which ever rig is chosen. The software provides the
interlock that keeps me from transmitting on both radios at the same time.
A big no-no for Single Op! The same applies on CW from the SO2R box.
4.) The key to maximizing the effectiveness of second radio, is the ability
to hear signals of all strengths while the run radio is blasting away.
Antenna separation is important but so is a good bandpass filter (BPF).
Choose one wisely. Incidentally, I haven't seen the need to put a BPF on my
run radio.
73
Ken K4ZW
>From k9gx at n4gn.com Tue Apr 16 07:29:02 2002
From: k9gx@n4gn.com (Mark S. Williams)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team
U.A. E.
References: <00ae01c1e27e$2ccdb540$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Message-ID: <002b01c1e510$20f43fc0$e0981ad8@iglou.com>
You know, Ali has built a world class station at A61AJ. He's invited some of
the best ops in the world to that station to maximize the effectiveness of
the hardware. He's earned a place on the "world stage" in our "game".
Why shouldn't he be part of the showcase that is the WRTC?
Who would you rather see in the Olympics? Athletes who are at the peak of
their game because they have the drive, determination and perserverence to
be the best in the world....or fat guys who eat three donuts for breakfast
every morning? (Not that I have anything against donuts, mind you...I have
yet to meet one I didn't like!)
Just a thought from K9GX who hopes to visit Helsinki this summer to watch
the WRTC performances and maybe, if I'm very lucky, find a chair at some
friendly OH shack during IARU.
73,
Mark
K9GX
>From s51ta at volja.net Tue Apr 16 09:42:09 2002
From: s51ta@volja.net (Tadej Mezek, S51TA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION> <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
<5.1.0.14.2.20020415170919.05091ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
HI!
I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is not
put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and the
audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
Are there any changes lately?
On writelog you just plug the microphone from heil or any other in SB mic
input, speaker output connect with TRX and the thing works perfectly anf it
even switch the mic off when transmit. And recording of messages is much
easier.....like k1ea dvk board.
Ted, s51ta
Otherwise I was always TR fan....maybe something can be done by Tree.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: "Tadej Mezek, S51TA" <s51ta@volja.net>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> At 03:37 PM 4/15/02 +0200, you wrote:
> >I am using TR for so2r CW and writelog for SSB, because of voice keyer
> >symplicity...
>
>
> Ted, you might want to look at the freeware package SBDVP. It integrates
> very tightly with TR and uses a SB-16 or similar sound card. The best
part
> is that all of the keystrokes of TR of TR work just as on CW - for
example,
> when running, you type in a station's callsign, dupe with the spacebar,
say
> his callsign and hit Enter. The program sends your exchange to him. You
> type in his exchange for you and hit [Enter] again, and the program sends
> the QSL message. The only thing it won't do is voice callsigns and serial
> numbers from typed input, but that is mostly an academic advantage, and
> Writelog doesn't do that anyway, does it?
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
>From jim at kc4hw.net Tue Apr 16 07:40:02 2002
From: jim@kc4hw.net (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
In-Reply-To: <006101c1e4e2$190cdde0$9d504fc6@main>
Message-ID: <200204161040.g3GAe2oh013541@smtp-server3.tampabay.rr.com>
> 1.) Single computer with Writelog
I have been using one computer with two video cards and two monitors.
Unfortunately my vision is not a good as it once was and this gives me
the opportunity to run both monitors at 800x600. This confirguration give
the ability to treat two monitors as one. The mouse will scroll back and
forth between the two. You can put alot of the misc windows on the
second monitor and reserve the main monitor for the log, bandmaps,
decode windows (rtty), etc
There are limitations on what cards can be used. On Win98SE check in
the help for Multiple Display Support and make sure your video cards are
compatible.
Jim Johnson, Melbourne, Florida
jim@kc4hw.net - http://www.kc4hw.net
DXCluster RF Connection: 144.97
DXCluster Telnet: Coming Soon
>From 00tlzivney at bsu.edu Tue Apr 16 09:44:24 2002
From: 00tlzivney@bsu.edu (Zivney, Terry L.)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NIL on 40m SSB split
Message-ID: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBA9A@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
Like many of you, I have been studying my UBN report
from the 2001 CQ WW SSB contest in order to see what
copying mistakes I had made.
My biggest surprise was that I lost 3 multipliers on
40 m ssb. Now, I could easily understand thinking I
was working one station while actually working another
in the crowded 40m CW segment, but how in the world
does this happen when working split? In each case,
I was transmitting up on the frequency requested by
the DX station calling CQ. In each case, I am sure
I heard my call on the CQ frequency. In each case,
I obviously copied a valid call on the CQ frequency,
because the three stations in question each made more
than 4,000 QSOs. And, needless to say, each of these
stations had big signals so it seems unlikely there
was a second station CQing on the same frequency and
listening on the same split, given that most of the
time the standard CQ includes "listening on this
frequency and 72**."
What can I do to improve on this problem?
Terry Zivney, N4TZ/9
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 16 07:47:56 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204161347.g3GDluV20763@localhost.localdomain>
2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: jidx-hfcw@ne.nal.go.jp
Mail logs to:
JIDX HFCW Contest
c/o Five-Nine Magazine
PO Box 59
Kamata, Tokyo 144
Japan
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
AE0Q(@K0HM) 452 115 64,400 Grand Mesa
N0AC(@N0NI) 427 110 30 54,780
N2ED 255 96 7 29,184 FRC
K3WW 224 81 6 21,060 FRC
N6ZZ 192 82 20,910 SCCC
N9RV 161 70 3 15,190 SMC
VE7FO 120 70 9 10,780
N4GG 43 34 4 1,972 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
WN6K 238 88 21 30,008 SCCC
SV1CIB 109 66 9,174
VE3BUC 86 47 4 4,042
WA6BOB 35 33 2 1,155
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/10 LP
OM5AW 466 44 10 20,504
NT6K 127 41 4 10,414 NCCC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 16 07:48:32 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204161348.g3GDmW020773@localhost.localdomain>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 16 07:51:44 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
16Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204161351.g3GDpiA20787@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
VE7SCC 2120 0 48 4,406,904 Coquitlam Amateur Ra
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
P40V 6610 1251 48 25,617,978 NCCC
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCF
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 <36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28.5 1,318,518
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20h 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35.8 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 @12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCF
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32.8 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 542 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
VE5SF 628 366 9 543,510
PA5AT 648 383 15 hr 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCF
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCF
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
YT1RA 1227 588 36 1,535,268 YU CC
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18.5 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14.4 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35.6 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30,5 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCF
YT9X(YZ1KA) 1346 629 36 1,697,042 YU CC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
K3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Tue Apr 16 14:34:18 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204161331320.30467-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Still have not seen any of the 3 plaques I (we) supposedly won in the WPX
CW and SSB contests. One is four years old now.
So, I'm curious if anyone is actually paying CQ for the plaques? If so,
where is the money going?
73
Bill, W4AN
>From n4uk at mindspring.com Tue Apr 16 21:37:11 2002
From: n4uk@mindspring.com (n4uk@mindspring.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Quartz Hill C.C New Zealand
Message-ID: <Springmail.0994.1019003831.0.22034700@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
Sorry for the bandwidth guys. Lost the e-mail address of the ZLs from
Wellington. I hope to be in Wellington on Friday. Can someone send me tel
numbers or E-mail addresses from the Quartz Hill Radio Club members?
Thanks, Ken, N4UK. SOuth of Taupo, NZ
>From k2av at contesting.com Tue Apr 16 22:03:16 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NIL on 40m SSB split
References: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBA9A@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
Message-ID: <00c101c1e5ab$a89aa540$0500a8c0@swift>
This one smells like the old
fumble-fingered-ten-thumbs-while-working-USA-SSB-stations-at-4-AM-in-t
he-morning-local-after-being-up-all-night jinx.
In your case, specifically, from across the pond,
"November Four Tango Zulu Five Nine One Four"
as he types in "N4RZ", and too bleary eyed to tell he missed the
key...
Been there, done that...
73, Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zivney, Terry L." <00tlzivney@bsu.edu>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Cc: <smc@qth.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 9:44 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NIL on 40m SSB split
> Like many of you, I have been studying my UBN report
> from the 2001 CQ WW SSB contest in order to see what
> copying mistakes I had made.
>
> My biggest surprise was that I lost 3 multipliers on
> 40 m ssb. Now, I could easily understand thinking I
> was working one station while actually working another
> in the crowded 40m CW segment, but how in the world
> does this happen when working split? In each case,
> I was transmitting up on the frequency requested by
> the DX station calling CQ. In each case, I am sure
> I heard my call on the CQ frequency. In each case,
> I obviously copied a valid call on the CQ frequency,
> because the three stations in question each made more
> than 4,000 QSOs. And, needless to say, each of these
> stations had big signals so it seems unlikely there
> was a second station CQing on the same frequency and
> listening on the same split, given that most of the
> time the standard CQ includes "listening on this
> frequency and 72**."
>
> What can I do to improve on this problem?
>
> Terry Zivney, N4TZ/9
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>
>From k8dx at raex.com Tue Apr 16 22:27:40 2002
From: k8dx@raex.com (Scott Detloff K8DX)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204161331320.30467-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <01d101c1e5af$1188cca0$1c1ec4d8@oemcomputer>
Hi Bill,
I know exactly what you mean. As a matter of fact I spoke with
N8BJQ, a few weeks ago about this and I offered to help handle
making and sending out past due and future plaques. He said that
he had it under control, since he was only backed up a few years!
I made the same offer to K1AR about the CQ WW plaques. His
reply was much more positive. With some teamwork, he figures
that if I could give him a hand, plaques would hit about the same time
the results are out. What a novel idea, eh?
Scott K8DX
Scott Detloff K8DX
Paris, Ohio
Visit The North Coast Contesters @ www.qsl.net/ncc
Tour K8DX @ www.qsl.net/k8dx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:34 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
>
> Still have not seen any of the 3 plaques I (we) supposedly won in the WPX
> CW and SSB contests. One is four years old now.
>
> So, I'm curious if anyone is actually paying CQ for the plaques? If so,
> where is the money going?
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
>From kh6nd at lava.net Tue Apr 16 18:02:49 2002
From: kh6nd@lava.net (kh6nd@lava.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204161331320.30467-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <3CBCE5D9.1B9AEB8C@lava.net>
Bill,
You can add 9 more CQ plaques that were won, and never received, from
1997-2001 efforts at KH7R.
Six for WPX, one for CQ 160, and last but not least, two of these were
the CQ WW World M/M combined trophies from 1997 and 1998.
Anyone else care to add to this list?
Mike
KH6ND
"Bill Fisher, W4AN" wrote:
>
> Still have not seen any of the 3 plaques I (we) supposedly won in the WPX
> CW and SSB contests. One is four years old now.
>
> So, I'm curious if anyone is actually paying CQ for the plaques? If so,
> where is the money going?
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From ua9cdc at mail.ur.ru Wed Apr 17 15:07:14 2002
From: ua9cdc@mail.ur.ru (Igor Sokolov)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION> <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
<5.1.0.14.2.20020415170919.05091ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
<00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
Message-ID: <007f01c1e5ec$9eb83740$0801a8c0@mail.ur.ru>
> I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is
not
> put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and
the
> audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
I am prepared to demonstrate you on the air that the audio that comes from
SBDVP is as good or better then that coming from the mike. I have been using
SBDVP for the last 3-4 years and noticed that my CQ attracts more callers if
sent with SBDVP were the audio can be preprocessed.
> even switch the mic off when transmit. And recording of messages is much
> easier.....like k1ea dvk board.
Recording with SBDVP is Ctl-F# then play it back by pressing that F#
Just wonder what can be easier and more intuitive?
73, Igor UA9CDC
>
>
> Ted, s51ta
>
>
> Otherwise I was always TR fan....maybe something can be done by Tree.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
> To: "Tadej Mezek, S51TA" <s51ta@volja.net>
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
>
>
> > At 03:37 PM 4/15/02 +0200, you wrote:
> > >I am using TR for so2r CW and writelog for SSB, because of voice keyer
> > >symplicity...
> >
> >
> > Ted, you might want to look at the freeware package SBDVP. It
integrates
> > very tightly with TR and uses a SB-16 or similar sound card. The best
> part
> > is that all of the keystrokes of TR of TR work just as on CW - for
> example,
> > when running, you type in a station's callsign, dupe with the spacebar,
> say
> > his callsign and hit Enter. The program sends your exchange to him. You
> > type in his exchange for you and hit [Enter] again, and the program
sends
> > the QSL message. The only thing it won't do is voice callsigns and
serial
> > numbers from typed input, but that is mostly an academic advantage, and
> > Writelog doesn't do that anyway, does it?
> >
> > 73, Pete N4ZR
> >
> > Check out the World HF
> > Contest Station Database at
> > www.pvrc.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Wed Apr 17 13:39:57 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
References: <Springmail.0994.1019003831.0.22034700@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <005a01c1e5f3$d6c23530$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
As far as UBNs were mentioned I might say that I noticed quite a few -B
calls in our ES9C M/M UBN report that were actually absolutely fine and
existing calls and had been worked by many stations - 30, 40, or even more.
There was seemingly no reason to determine them -B (no Wn or anything). I
know for sure some of them were OK QSOs as I even remember them. Like my
first QSO on 20m -
1 -B ly3bh(3) ly3by(1224)ww ly3bx(850)n ly3be(644)ww ly3bg(108) w3bh(2)
It's a well-known contester from LY and we even chatted a few words in the
beginning of the contest. He has only made a few QSOs as I suspect he worked
in some M/S team maybe...
Another example on 20m:
2183 -B f8btq(17) f8bqq(552)h f8bdq(21) f8bvq(8) hb9btq(147) py7btq(6)
and on 10m:
269 -B ea8zc(5) ea8zs(4250)ww ea8zz(12) ea8jc(7)
It is a bit irritating actually, don't know if anybody else has noticed
it...
73
Tonno
ES5TV
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Wed Apr 17 09:49:11 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you on this reflector because you like contesitng?
Message-ID: <000501c1e60e$465cc4e0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Are you a contest club member?
Guess you like contesting, huh?
Did you know there is a club competition category in the Florida QSO Party?
Well..now you do, as a matter of fact, here are the results of the 2,001
club competition for US Clubs outside of Florida:
US Clubs
CLUB SCORE ENTRANTS QTH
1 Mad River RC 231,604 5 MI/OH/IN
2 Society of Midwest Contesters 215,076 5 IL/IN/MO
3 Frankford RC 170,244 3 PA/DE
4 Western New York DX Assn 95,424 1 NY
5 Stanford Univ ARC 90,768 1 CA
6 Southern California Contest Club 69,534 2 CA
7 Univ of ID ARC 62,656 1 ID
8 Northern California Contest Club 51,656 2 CA/NV
9 Texas DX Society 44,880 1 TX
10 Carolina DX Assn 36,432 1 NC
11 Carl Hayden 27,692 2 AZ
12 Oklahoma DX Assn 21,504 1 OK
13 Heartland DX Assn 16,192 2 NE
14 Southeast Contest Club 13,700 3 GA/AL
15 Potomac Valley Radio Club 13,416 1 NC
16 Yankee Clipper Contest Club 9,506 1 MA
17 Northern Arizona DX Assn 9,400 1 AZ
18 Central Texas DX and Contest Club 5,808 1 TX
19 NC State Univ 1,924 1 NC
20 Univ of Chicago ARC 770 1 IL
21 Metro DX Club 646 1 IL
22 Motor City DX Club 108 1 MI
Here are the results from the DX clubs outside of the US
DX Clubs
CLUB SCORE ENTRANTS QTH
1 Kaunas Univ. of Technology RC 42,140 1 LY
2 RSGB 29,410 1 G
3 Top of Europe Contesters 3,950 3 SM
4 Radio Club Uruguay 1,880 1 CX
5 Lithuanian DX Group 144 1 LY
Note that the Kaunas University score is 10th among the non-FL clubs
submitting scores, and that score was from long time FQP supporter Gedas,
LY3BA - due to poor conditions he only worked 57 of the 67 counties this
past year, that's right LY - Lithuania - tope European scorer M0SDX only
missed 2 counties on CW!
....also note that sometimes only one score is being submitted by a contest
club...even if you only get on for a few hours please submit your score for
your club - this is an aspect of the FQP yet to mature - I would love to see
that happen! Note that many of the contest clubs with newer members are
using the state QSO Parties as training grounds for the "majors" - why not
make the FQP one of those opportunities? We also have School competition
and Novice/Tech categories! The Floirda COntest Group exists to promote
contesting - anything we can do to help you promote contesting - we would
love to help other contest clubs do same!
The FQP is a good contest for contesters - why do I say that?
Because the contest rules were written by, the predominance of operators
are, and results are compiled by
CONTESTERS
This year marks the fifth year of sponsorship of the FQP by the Florida
Contest Group. As a contest club we know what contesters like...and we try
and offer it up...if your having fun we're having fun!
I encourage all contesters to get on and send in a score for their club -
there are many awards available in the FQP including the club competition.
Spend a little while cruising the FQP website - read the excellent write-ups
of the contest by logchecker and two time returning WRTC 1st place team
member K1TO....this is definitely NOT our Dad's State QSO Party!
Good ops - snappy exchanges - and no rotor spinning!
Go on, go to the website - its great reading - click on your state record
and see the opportunity for you to own a state record!
Go there and study up - after all the Florida QSO Party is only 10 days
away!
We have commitments for the activation on all but 6 Florida counties with
three mobile teams yet to check in with their routes (yes, this info is on
the website, too!) I feel safe in saying that once again a sweep of the 67
Florida Counties will be possible in the FQP....
Surf on over to:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp/
If you love contests, you'll love the FQP! Would I steer you wrong? C'mon
get - on - I'll let you work me in Sweepstakes this November :-)
73,
Jim White, K4OJ
aka one of the K4FCG/M team once a year!
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Wed Apr 17 10:12:21 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ron D. Rossi)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
In-Reply-To: <00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
Message-ID: <200204171312.JAA25908@johnpaul.btv.ibm.com>
>>>"Tadej Mezek, S51TA" said:
>
> HI!
>
> I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is not
> put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and the
> audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
This is sound card dependent. I run my heil into my soundcard whose output
goes right to the radio. I run SBDVP with TR and I can record messages on the
fly...truly a wonderful thing. The mic however is not muted on TX of a
recorded message.
Who knows...there just may be improvements in the future.
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron rossi(kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From k3lr at k3lr.com Wed Apr 17 09:36:26 2002
From: k3lr@k3lr.com (Tim Duffy K3LR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UPDATE Dayton Contest Dinner 2002
Message-ID: <3CBD7A5A.34C9B6ED@k3lr.com>
******Tickets are selling very fast. Do not delay your order.******
UPDATE!!!! We are honored to have Joe Taylor, K1JT as our featured
dinner speaker this year.
Joe was awarded the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1993 and is also a noted
VHF Contest enthusiast.
The North Coast Contesters are pleased to announce:
The 10th Annual Dayton Contest Dinner
Tickets are on sale NOW.
Master of Ceremonies is CQ Magazine Contest Editor and
CQ Contest Hall of Fame member, John Dorr, K1AR
The 2002 Contest Hall of Fame Induction's will be formally announced by
the CQ WorldWide Contest Director and CQ Contest Hall of Fame member,
Bob Cox, K3EST.
Several WRTC 2002 activities are planned.
The dinner will be held on Saturday night, May 18, 2002 at 6:30 PM:
Cash bar opens at 5:30 PM.
Located at the Crowne Plaza Hotel (Official Contest Hotel)
5th and Jefferson Streets (Next to the Convention Center)
Dayton (Downtown), Ohio in the VAN CLEVE BALLROOM
Menu: Prime Rib of Beef, Potato, vegetables, rolls, chocolate fudge
cake, choice of beverage, coffee, tea or iced tea.
*** Vegetarian menu available by request at the dinner.
Price is $30.00 per person.
**** SEATING IS LIMITED TO 300, SO ORDER YOUR TICKETS EARLY ****
Seating is random and is not reserved. Tables are set in rounds or 8.
All dinner ticket orders are handled exclusively by Craig Clark, W1JCC
at:
Radioware and Radio Bookstore
PO Box 209
Rindge, NH 03461
http://www.radio-ware.com
You can place your order by calling:
Monday through Friday from 10 AM to 6 PM eastern USA time.
1-800-457-7373
1-603-899-6957 for International
or by FAX 1-603-899-6826 24 hours
You can also EMAIL your orders to: nx1g@monad.net
Visa, Mastercard, American Express. Sorry no COD orders.
EMAILs must include charge card + number, callsign and return address
information.
Tickets will be sent via First Class US Mail no later than May 7, 2002.
Please allow plenty of time for your tickets to arrive before you leave
for Dayton.
Radioware and Radio Bookstore is not responsible for tickets lost in the
mail.
*** Special thanks to Craig Clark, W1JCC for once again handling the
tickets ***
Deadline for ticket orders is May 6, 2002. NO EXCEPTIONS
There will be no tickets at the door.
Many contest operators from around the world attend this event. If you
enjoy radio contesting, you do not want to miss this dinner.
We expect a quick sell out. Order your tickets early!
73!
Tim K3LR
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Wed Apr 17 10:49:11 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Room space available?
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJCEBEECAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Now that I've retired from work, I have time to finally attend a Dayton
Hamvention.
Of course, no room (I tried calling at 8:15am that fateful day).
Does anyone at the Crowne Plaza have available floor space in their room
they can share?
I will pay my portion of the room, obviously.
I have a sleeping bag.
I know some cowboy poetry.
I don't smoke and I don't know N5RP.
73,
dale, kg5u
>From i4jmy at iol.it Wed Apr 17 19:06:49 2002
From: i4jmy@iol.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?i4jmy@iol.it?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] =?iso-8859-1?Q?UBN?=
Message-ID: <GUPZFD$0C7EB579BF04EA4CF7BE3235BFF8A588@iol.it>
Checked UBN fles of last WWDX SSB.
Found removed QSOs and mults.
Used Writelog, all contest digitally recorded and easy to target and
listen to verify each single doubt.
A number of bad QSO is instead Ok, but who knows if the other guy
didn't forget to log or lost the qso with us typing wrong and the
erasing with no memory...
OK also for the unavoidable limits of the checking system, nothing is
perfect.
Finally I like this checking way, also when good QSOs becomes a
penalty, each medicine isn't "panacea" and has it's side effects.
Thanks CQ and WWDX contest committee for the big job and improvements,
now it's thousand times better than what it was before and what happens
isn't their sin.
What I don't like at all is instead to have discovered a particular
mult & country and zone removed in 3 bands (80, 40 & 10).
I'm talking about a very known MultiOp top contest station that entered
in our log probably with
his "free_run_hunting_fox_illegal_same_band_station" since it did
breaking our pile up (an easy to check thing when a record is
available) and then removed the QSO, by purpose, I don't want to
question why.
That's all folks, and I'll sleep fine in any case.
73,
Mauri I4JMY (IR4T)
PS Do not ask me who that station is, if I didn't write here, it means
I don't want to tell.
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Wed Apr 17 14:31:38 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Helvetia (HB9) contest and FQP
Message-ID: <ba.24841380.29ef0b7a@aol.com>
Hello Gang,
I am appending a message from Urs, HB9ABO, a good friend of mine whom I met
on the 3B7RF DXpedition in 1998. Urs and I have been corresponding to
coordinate, as best we can, Qso's between participants in the FQP and the
Helvetia (HB9) contest which have overlapping times.
Here is the HB9 contest info from Urs:
"The 1600 - 0200 UTC period of your FQP coincides with
the first part of our Helvetia 26 contest.
HB9 stations send:
RS(T) QSO No, Canton
Where Canton is one of
ZH BE LU UR SZ OW NW GL ZG FR SO SH
BS BL AR AI GR SG AG TG TI VD VS NE GE JU
Those who will think of, will add "DX" at the end:
eg. 579123 AR DX
Foreign stations send RST and QSO Number."
Urs sent this info about HB9O which I thought would be of interest:
"Also I am still doing some work with the Swiss Humanitary
Aid Unit's specialized group CommunicationS.
HB9BXE, HB9BQW, HB9BQI are in a group of about two dozen
hams who studied then realized a complete renewal of the
Ham radio station at the Swiss Museum of Transport - HB9O.
They raised funds of more than CHF 100'000 and the new
station is now almost complete. As a member of the newly
created operating group I am now busy with instructing operators
coming from all parts of the country.
There are five working places at HB9O:
- "Individual": Terminals of all antennas, 230 V, 13.6 VDC, control
of all rotators. This place enables a ham to bring his own equipment
with him to use it at HB9O.
- ATV: Amateur Television (Reception of Satellite Signals)
- VHF/UHF: well - repeater traffic, hi. Be sure, before long I will
install a CW key there too!
- Digital VHF/UHF/HF All digital modes, spectators can watch QSOs
on large screens
- HF: FT920, good old TR7, CW/SSB
Only one of this places will be active at any time.
The station will also be on the web and there are two interactive
consoles where the spectators can see and hear "what is amateur
radio?".
So I am rather busy, travelling three times to Lucerne a week
and at home writing and updating the station's operator's manual...
bcnu on contest!
73, Urs, HB9ABO
Tnx & 73, George, K5KG/K4FQP
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From AA4NC at aol.com Wed Apr 17 17:55:48 2002
From: AA4NC@aol.com (AA4NC@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
Message-ID: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
Bill,
Don't feel like the lone ranger. I have given up waiting for CQ magazine
contest plaques that never arrived dating back to 1984! Some of these were
multiop plaques that I paid for to get copies for myself and other operators.
I feel lucky to even get a paper certificate from a CQ contest! Most of these
also seem to get lost in the same black hole with the plaques. I guess they
figure that most people are too busy calculating UBN statistics to notice that
they never get their "awards" for CQ contests.
We just have to look at N1ND and crew at ARRL to see how it SHOULD be done!
73,
Will
>From je1cka at jzap.com Thu Apr 18 12:05:22 2002
From: je1cka@jzap.com (Tack Kumagai)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] JIDX Email-Log received List
Message-ID: <200204180205.LAA00588@ne.nal.go.jp>
I have uploaded past and current JIDX contest email-log received list to
the following URL
http://je1cka.jzap.com/jidx/index.html
http://je1cka.jzap.com/jidx/2002-hfcw-log-list.html
will update twice a week
---------
JIDX contest committee chairman
Tack Kumagai JE1CKA/KH0AM
Email: jidx-chairman@ne.nal.go.jp
http://je1cka.jzap.com/jidx/
>From thompson at mindspring.com Wed Apr 17 22:58:13 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NIL on 40m SSB split
References: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBA9A@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
<00c101c1e5ab$a89aa540$0500a8c0@swift>
Message-ID: <012501c1e67e$9f613420$348156d1@default>
Two problems can occur in working split on 40 (even in just S&P operation).
1. Timing of reply error. Here a Dx station gives a report that you think
is for you but its for another station.
2. The false duplicate contact. This is a problem that occurs with the
Dx station but can occur with a W/VE running stations as well. Often the
Dx station is listening on a frequency (say 7215) but at any given time
there are several others listening on or about the same frequency. So you
give a report to say IK3XXX and he logs it correctly but HB9AAA also logs
the QSO thinking you are working him. Later you call HB9AAA and he says
"work b4."
This just happened to me in my 1 hour run during the WPX SSB. I spent 30
minutes S&Ping and 30 minutes running. Toward the end of my S&P operation I
called a semi rare station and got "worked before." At least I knew that I
was already in his log. Now the problem for the serious competitor
is to correct this and get in the log properly.
Now how do you minimize these mistakes? The best way is to say the Dx
stations call as you call him. If the other DX station hears this he or
she will not log you by mistake. Make sure the station repeats your call
or clearly gives your call. If there is ANY uncertainty ask for a repeat
and confirmation!
In running make sure you say the stations call clearly (one rule is to stay
with the same phonetics yours and his!!!) so you get the correct station to
log you. I hear Dxpeditions talking too fast or never completing the call
before QRZ and I can guess at the duplicates this causes. One other rule is
to give your complete call. I call this the N6RJ/HB9TL rule. Let the Dx
ask for a couple of letters.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From k8cc at comcast.net Thu Apr 18 01:25:17 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (Dave Pruett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Michigan QSO Party
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020418000015.00a3c9e0@mail.comcast.net>
This coming weekend is the Michigan QSO Party, sponsored by the Mad River
Radio Club. Complete rules can be found on the MRRC web site
http://www.mrrc.net, but here are the basics:
Begins: 1600 UTC - 20 April 2002
Ends: 0400 UTC - 21 April 2002
A station can be worked once per band-mode (CW/SSB) on 80-10
meters. Non-MI stations work MI stations. MI stations work anyone. MI
mobile stations can be worked again when they change counties.
Exchange: MI stations send QSO number and county. Non-MI stations send QSO
number and state/province, or "DX" for non-W/VE.
Multipliers: Counted once per mode (CW/SSB). MI stations count MI counties
(83), states (49) and VE provinces (58). Non-MI stations count MI counties.
Classes: Single-op (high, low and QRP power), multi-operator and mobile
(100W only).
Logs should be submitted within 30 days to mqp@contesting.com or via postal
mail to: MRRC, c/o Dave Pruett, K8CC, 2727 Harris Road, Ypsilanti, MI 48198.
Contest configuration files for the MiQP are available for NA, TRLog and
WriteLog. A demo version of the NA Contest Logging Program which supports
MiQP and certain other state QSO parties is available for free from the
DATOM Engineering web site at http://www.datomonline.com.
Since the MiQP contest format and rules were streamlined in 1999, activity
has increased every year. For the past two years, all 83 MI counties were
on the air through a combination of mobiles and home stations. For 2002,
there will be least ten well-equipped mobile stations out roaming the MI
countryside. We'll publish a list of calls and the counties they plan to
activate tomorrow evening. Also, a number of club stations, including the
well-known W8SH at Michigan State University and perhaps W8YY at Michigan
Tech plan to be QRV.
73,
Dave Pruett, K8CC
>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Thu Apr 18 13:14:30 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why can't I get SBDVP to record?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION> <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
<5.1.0.14.2.20020415170919.05091ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
<00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
<007f01c1e5ec$9eb83740$0801a8c0@mail.ur.ru>
Message-ID: <00ed01c1e6bd$e97ff890$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Guys, as you are successfully using it - can you give me an advice? I am
quite desperate already. I have WIN 98 and E-Dio SC4000 (ALS4000) SB Pro
compatible PCI soundcard - Win and DOS drivers installed.
I can start SBDVP and TR both in WIN or in MS-DOS but both ways allow me
only to play the example message under F10. I can not record. It creates an
empty file when I try to record with CTRL-F1. Maybe I have some conflict
between DOS and WIN soundcard dirvers, I don't know.
I can record sound files with Windows Sound Recorder though. Can I somehow
convert the WAV files into DVP files and record under Windows???
73
Tonno
ES5TV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Sokolov" <ua9cdc@mail.ur.ru>
To: "Tadej Mezek, S51TA" <s51ta@volja.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> > I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is
> not
> > put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and
> the
> > audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
>
> I am prepared to demonstrate you on the air that the audio that comes from
> SBDVP is as good or better then that coming from the mike. I have been
using
> SBDVP for the last 3-4 years and noticed that my CQ attracts more callers
if
> sent with SBDVP were the audio can be preprocessed.
>
> > even switch the mic off when transmit. And recording of messages is much
> > easier.....like k1ea dvk board.
>
> Recording with SBDVP is Ctl-F# then play it back by pressing that F#
> Just wonder what can be easier and more intuitive?
>
>
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
> >
> >
> > Ted, s51ta
> >
> >
> > Otherwise I was always TR fan....maybe something can be done by Tree.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
> > To: "Tadej Mezek, S51TA" <s51ta@volja.net>
> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> >
> >
> > > At 03:37 PM 4/15/02 +0200, you wrote:
> > > >I am using TR for so2r CW and writelog for SSB, because of voice
keyer
> > > >symplicity...
> > >
> > >
> > > Ted, you might want to look at the freeware package SBDVP. It
> integrates
> > > very tightly with TR and uses a SB-16 or similar sound card. The best
> > part
> > > is that all of the keystrokes of TR of TR work just as on CW - for
> > example,
> > > when running, you type in a station's callsign, dupe with the
spacebar,
> > say
> > > his callsign and hit Enter. The program sends your exchange to him.
You
> > > type in his exchange for you and hit [Enter] again, and the program
> sends
> > > the QSL message. The only thing it won't do is voice callsigns and
> serial
> > > numbers from typed input, but that is mostly an academic advantage,
and
> > > Writelog doesn't do that anyway, does it?
> > >
> > > 73, Pete N4ZR
> > >
> > > Check out the World HF
> > > Contest Station Database at
> > > www.pvrc.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
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>From coaching at barrybettman.com Thu Apr 18 03:51:50 2002
From: coaching@barrybettman.com (Barry Bettman, PCC- Success Coaching
[mailto:coaching@barrybettman.com])
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dayton roomate
Message-ID: <3CBE9736.B331EB22@barrybettman.com>
I am looking for a roommate and nonsmoking room to share for May 16th
Thursday, May 17th Friday, and May 18th Saturday at Dayton. Please
contact:
Barry K6ST
coaching@barrybettman.com
650-726-1205
>From k4ww at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 07:32:54 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004301c1e6c4$665c7b80$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
AA4NC@aol.com wrote, in response to W4AN: "I feel lucky to even get a paper
certificate from a CQ contest!"
Yes I am a WPX RTTY Plaque sponsor! Having never been fortunate enough to
have won a plaque, obviously I haven't received one! I have received a few
certificates, and none of them were received in less than a year from the
particular contest! I'm more concerned with the omission of my log for 2001
WPX without any explanation or response from the contest manager? In almost
every contest, I read in the soapbox comments "how much fun was had"! While
I agree 100% with "if the awards are going to be advertised, they should be
provided", if y'all are in CQ sponsored contest(s) for the fun, why are
y'all concerned about the awards? There are far too many reasons as to the
delay or non-receipt of advertised contest award(s), but, IMHO, the primary
reason is "too much for too few with too little"! From what little I know
about the CQ award(s) program, it is a "bureaucratic nightmare", of which I
want no part of! Maybe the time has come for CQ to "fess up" and admit that
they will no longer provide ANY contest(s) awards? After all, "don't we
enter just for the fun of it"?
C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
>From n4zr at contesting.com Thu Apr 18 07:42:03 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
In-Reply-To: <200204171312.JAA25908@johnpaul.btv.ibm.com>
References: <00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020418063801.05e60ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 09:12 AM 4/17/02 -0400, Ron wrote:
> >>>"Tadej Mezek, S51TA" said:
> >
> > HI!
> >
> > I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is not
> > put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and the
> > audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
>
>This is sound card dependent. I run my heil into my soundcard whose output
>goes right to the radio. I run SBDVP with TR and I can record messages on the
>fly...truly a wonderful thing. The mic however is not muted on TX of a
>recorded message.
>
>Who knows...there just may be improvements in the future.
On at least some soundcards, full-duplex operation (whereby the microphone
audio is live when the sound card is running under SBDVP) is set up on the
Device Manager. That's where I enabled it on my SB-16.
The documentation for SBDVP, while full and technically correct, is not
very well organized to guide the user in setting it up and using it with
TR. If there is interest, I'll write up a brief "getting started"
supplement and post it on the web.
73, Pete N4ZR
>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 18 06:30:31 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
Message-ID:
<20020418053032.24594.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Wed, 17 April 2002, "Tonno Vahk" wrote
>
> As far as UBNs were mentioned I might say that I
noticed quite a few -B
> calls in our ES9C M/M UBN report that were actually
absolutely fine and
> existing calls and had been worked by many stations -
30, 40, or even more.
Just because 30 or 40 people copied the same call,
doesn't mean it's the "right" call. I've listened in
awe to some stations giving their callsigns with the
same (often highly-accented) phonetics over and over.
When pressed about a specific letter, they clarify with
different phonetics that reveal a different callsign.
In fact, several times a contest I find myself calling
a station, getting told by him that I'm a dupe, then
hear the station use a different set of phonetics that
changes his call. (This happens with spotted calls a
LOT.)
-Mike N2MG
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Thu Apr 18 18:05:05 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
References:
<20020418053032.24594.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <018f01c1e6e2$0af65e00$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Yes, of course, I am not 100% sure that those calls were actually right and
I completly agree with you. I am just wondering based on what were they
determined BAD as there was no WN and the call is issued and active
according to all callbooks and databases and he did not submit the log.
73
Tonno
ES5TV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
> On Wed, 17 April 2002, "Tonno Vahk" wrote
>
> >
> > As far as UBNs were mentioned I might say that I
> noticed quite a few -B
> > calls in our ES9C M/M UBN report that were actually
> absolutely fine and
> > existing calls and had been worked by many stations -
> 30, 40, or even more.
>
> Just because 30 or 40 people copied the same call,
> doesn't mean it's the "right" call. I've listened in
> awe to some stations giving their callsigns with the
> same (often highly-accented) phonetics over and over.
> When pressed about a specific letter, they clarify with
> different phonetics that reveal a different callsign.
>
> In fact, several times a contest I find myself calling
> a station, getting told by him that I'm a dupe, then
> hear the station use a different set of phonetics that
> changes his call. (This happens with spotted calls a
> LOT.)
>
>
> -Mike N2MG
>
> ________________________________________________
> PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
> http://www.peoplepc.com
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>From wally at el-soft.com Thu Apr 18 19:21:49 2002
From: wally@el-soft.com (Valeri Stefanov)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] BADs in UBN
Message-ID: <004701c1e6f5$27947020$cd1038d4@wally>
Same observed here at LZ8T as with ES9C.
OK1KH is an existing station and I work him regularily in contests. He has
quite potent signal on top band so mistake is in fact difficult to be made.
Another example is a QSO with S50S, too.
Nobody is perfect !
73's de Wally LZ2CJ & LZ8T & YM3LZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 18 09:25:27 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 18Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204181525.g3IFPR522298@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 18Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530
WX5S(@W6YX) 4553 1078 48 10,743,348 NCCC
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
NT6K 2254 845 48 4,173,455 NCCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K6LRN 333 255 208,640 NCCC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 18 09:27:42 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
18Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204181527.g3IFRgL22307@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 18Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
VE7SCC 2120 0 48 4,406,904 Coquitlam Amateur Ra
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
P40V 6610 1251 48 25,617,978 NCCC
3V8BB 5868 1238 48 23,900,828 YU CC
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCF
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCF
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 542 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
VE5SF 628 366 9 543,510
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCF
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCF
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
YT1RA 1227 588 36 1,535,268 YU CC
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCF
YT9X(YZ1KA) 1346 629 36 1,697,042 YU CC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 18 09:48:00 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 JIDX and EU Sprint Summaries 18Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020418084413.00aab500@pop3.eskimo.com>
Combined 2002 JIDX and EU Sprint Summaries 18Apr2002
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: jidx-hfcw@ne.nal.go.jp
Mail logs to:
JIDX HFCW Contest
c/o Five-Nine Magazine
PO Box 59
Kamata, Tokyo 144
Japan
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
GM4YXI 520 127 14 82,931 North of Scotland Co
AE0Q(@K0HM) 452 115 64,400 Grand Mesa
N0AC(@N0NI) 427 110 30 54,780
OH1F(OH1NOA) 326 100 12 36,100 CCF
N2ED 255 96 7 29,184 FRC
K3WW 224 81 6 21,060 FRC
N6ZZ 192 82 20,910 SCCC
N9RV 161 70 3 15,190 SMC
VE7FO 120 70 9 10,780
N4GG 43 34 4 1,972 PVRC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
HB9ARF 259 106 37,630
WN6K 238 88 21 30,008 SCCC
SV1CIB 109 66 9,174
VE3BUC 86 47 4 4,042
WA6BOB 35 33 2 1,155
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/10 LP
OM5AW 466 44 10 20,504
NT6K 127 41 4 10,414 NCCC
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 18Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
9A7P(9A6XX) 126 3 126 WWYC
EI/G4BUO 32 1 32
>From K1AR at aol.com Thu Apr 18 12:54:49 2002
From: K1AR@aol.com (K1AR@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plaque-gate
Message-ID: <17f.6fe1404.29f04649@aol.com>
As the guy responsible for CQ WW trophies, I can only comment on my part of
this puzzle. N8BJQ will need to respond to the WPX issues.
As for the CQ WW, we are essentially caught up. The last batch of 2000
trophies are at the engraver awaiting completion and shipment. As soon as I
have the final results for last year's contest, I will be moving forward
immediately to produce them. So, we're actually in reasonable shape.
The issue with the KH7R M/M combined awards is that they are funded and
produced locally by the boys at Alpha/Ehrhorn. I've obviously assumed
erroneously that this was happening and will fix it immediately. I'm sure
that with the business transition there, this is one thing that fell through
the cracks.
If there are other problems with CQWW trophies in particular, I am not aware
of them and encourage you to bring them to my attention.
Please accept my apology for any problems.
73 John, K1AR
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Thu Apr 18 13:32:17 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
<004301c1e6c4$665c7b80$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
Message-ID: <007901c1e6f6$9b4ad300$ab2745cf@default>
I can only speak for the CQ 160 Contests but I do know getting out
certificates and plaques is a chore.
I have some help and the results are mixed. Plaque Sponsors won't pay up or
quit amateur radio or even become SK. If I have problems with the CQ 160
Contests I know the WPX and WW must struggle. There is no national
association with paid workers to get out plaques and certificates and I
always ask the question Why do sponsors pay for these plaques and often not
for volunteer run contests such as CQ.
Now as to K4WW's complaint about being left out of the results with no
comments...this happens due to too much reliance on computer checking. I
have lost logs due to one log overlaying another and several that
disappeared. I have a check in log that allows me to provide claimed
scores and then I move the logs to a final file that is updated when the
checking is done. There are bugs in the best log checking programs (I
debugged 5 in the CQ 160 cabrillo checking software last year). I
personally check the top logs for missed errors and possible corrections. I
also check major logs if the score changes (lowers usually) by more than 3%.
I also make all decisions about DQ (usually too many unverified QSOs). I
feel sorry for K4WW as I know contest efforts deserve better. But this is
my reasoning and even in 1400 entries I still get a few lost, missed, wrong
location, wrong classification.
The WW and WPX with 6 to 10,000 entries are much more difficult and we need
the computer to help us do a better job of assuring the scores are correct
the real winners identified!
73 Dave K4JRB
> Yes I am a WPX RTTY Plaque sponsor! Having never been fortunate enough to
> have won a plaque, obviously I haven't received one! I have received a few
> certificates, and none of them were received in less than a year from the
> particular contest! I'm more concerned with the omission of my log for
2001
> WPX without any explanation or response from the contest manager? In
almost
> every contest, I read in the soapbox comments "how much fun was had"!
While
> I agree 100% with "if the awards are going to be advertised, they should
be
> provided", if y'all are in CQ sponsored contest(s) for the fun, why are
> y'all concerned about the awards? There are far too many reasons as to the
> delay or non-receipt of advertised contest award(s), but, IMHO, the
primary
> reason is "too much for too few with too little"! From what little I know
> about the CQ award(s) program, it is a "bureaucratic nightmare", of which
I
> want no part of! Maybe the time has come for CQ to "fess up" and admit
that
> they will no longer provide ANY contest(s) awards? After all, "don't we
> enter just for the fun of it"?
> C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From i4ufh at libero.it Thu Apr 18 21:29:48 2002
From: i4ufh@libero.it (Fabio I4UFH)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00ca01c1e707$05b2b630$c293623e@i4ufh>
Still Waiting IQ4T CQWW SSB 1997 1st EU SO 15 , IJ4R WPX 1991 MS 1st EU
73 Fabio I4UFH
----- Original Message -----
From: <AA4NC@aol.com>
To: ""Bill Fisher, W4AN"" <w4an@contesting.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
> Bill,
>
> Don't feel like the lone ranger. I have given up waiting for CQ magazine
contest plaques that never arrived dating back to 1984! Some of these were
multiop plaques that I paid for to get copies for myself and other
operators.
>
> I feel lucky to even get a paper certificate from a CQ contest! Most of
these also seem to get lost in the same black hole with the plaques. I guess
they figure that most people are too busy calculating UBN statistics to
notice that they never get their "awards" for CQ contests.
>
> We just have to look at N1ND and crew at ARRL to see how it SHOULD be
done!
>
> 73,
>
> Will
> _______________________________________________
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>From ab0mv at ix.netcom.com Thu Apr 18 14:03:16 2002
From: ab0mv@ix.netcom.com (Merrimon Crawford Pladsen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ certificates
In-Reply-To: <007901c1e6f6$9b4ad300$ab2745cf@default>
References: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
<004301c1e6c4$665c7b80$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
Message-ID: <E16yHCR-0002by-00@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net>
I know people still waiting for certificates/plaques from 1999 CQ contests.
4 years is too long. Those responsible will not respond to repeated
questions via email or snail mail. Even a simple response that those
responsible & CQ contest committee are aware of the delay and are trying to
do something about it would be better than refusing any response to
certificate/plaque winners!
73
Merri AB0MV
>From jsschuster at snet.net Thu Apr 18 19:23:58 2002
From: jsschuster@snet.net (jsschuster)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Bed available...Visalia
Message-ID: <3CBF0F3E.B5F3AFD6@snet.net>
I have an extra bed in my Holiday Inn room if anyone would like to
share costs. JACK w1wef@arrl.net
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Apr 18 20:39:24 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST QST de K4FCG K4FCG - New Catagories! - New Plaques!
Message-ID: <021501c1e732$460fb4a0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
New for this year's Florida QSO Party - which is now only 9 days away - will
be a
SWL Category
And we have added a new plaque to the awards program (tnx K4RX):
Top Single-Op Mobile CW-Only
There are alot of opportunites to receive beautiful FQP certificates and a
very extensive plaque program...
If you haven't done so yet - go to the FQP website - there are the records -
the results - and EVERYTHING you wanna know about the hottest QSO Party in
April - The FQP! Click on:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
Florida hams are asked to please register with NS4W as soon as possible -
(see the county activation page and click on his call) wiht YOUR county
activation plans....this is a big help for guys looking to complete their
Florida Counties for CHC and also an aid to the competitors as far as
knowing who will be going to which county, we try to activate every county
with more than one ham - even if that means multiple mobile teams...by the
way their tentative routes are also on there!
Its CW, its SSB and its 10 - 40 meters on both Saturday and Sunday....did I
mention that it is only
9 Days Until FQP 2K2?
Join the PARTY, the Florida QSO Party!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Apr 18 21:07:08 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FLASH THIS JUST IN Re: QST QST de K4FCG K4FCG - New
Catagories! - New Plaques!
Message-ID: <026c01c1e736$25a97f80$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
This just in to FQP central
STOP THE PRESSES!
Yet another catagory has been added to the FQP Plaque program...
Thanks to sponosrship by N4PN we now have a new catagory for the FQP plaque
program...
Top Multi-Op Mobile CW
(can anyone do battle with K1TO and N4TO?)
The FQP keeps growing - find out why on Aptil 27 and 28 - last years logs
received reporteed
28,978 QSOs
were made in the 2,001 Florida QSO Party.....
K4OJ
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:39 PM
Subject: QST QST de K4FCG K4FCG - New Catagories! - New Plaques!
> New for this year's Florida QSO Party - which is now only 9 days away -
will
> be a
>
> SWL Category
>
>
> And we have added a new plaque to the awards program (tnx K4RX):
>
> Top Single-Op Mobile CW-Only
>
>
> There are alot of opportunites to receive beautiful FQP certificates and a
> very extensive plaque program...
>
> If you haven't done so yet - go to the FQP website - there are the
records -
> the results - and EVERYTHING you wanna know about the hottest QSO Party in
> April - The FQP! Click on:
>
> http://www.qsl.net/fqp
>
> Florida hams are asked to please register with NS4W as soon as possible -
> (see the county activation page and click on his call) wiht YOUR county
> activation plans....this is a big help for guys looking to complete their
> Florida Counties for CHC and also an aid to the competitors as far as
> knowing who will be going to which county, we try to activate every county
> with more than one ham - even if that means multiple mobile teams...by the
> way their tentative routes are also on there!
>
> Its CW, its SSB and its 10 - 40 meters on both Saturday and Sunday....did
I
> mention that it is only
>
> 9 Days Until FQP 2K2?
>
> Join the PARTY, the Florida QSO Party!
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, K4OJ
>
> http://www.qsl.net/fqp
>
>
>
>
>From k1ir at designet.com Thu Apr 18 22:25:47 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Welcome K7BV!
Message-ID: <km1zbcrga22vroi.180420022125@designet-jsi>
Fellow contesters,
With thoughts of contest coverage, Logbook of the World, World Amateur Radio
Day [what's that?] and a variety of other subjects weighing heavily on my mind,
I decided to dial up our new ARRL Sales and Marketing man - Dennis
Motschenbacher, K7BV - just to exchange some ideas. We had a great
conversation, and I wanted to let you all know that I see his involvement as a
really positive development. Take a look at the note he sent along following
our conversation.
Welcome and GL, Dennis!
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
FROM: "Motschenbacher, Dennis K7BV" <k7bv@arrl.org>
TO: 'Jim Idelson' <k1ir@designet.com>
DATE: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:13:19 -0400
RE: RE: re[2]: Want to talk?
Jim,
Thanks for the call today. Although, I have only been working at the League
for a little over two weeks, I am already deeply grateful that there are
enthusiastic hams like you who care enough about our hobby to pick up the
telephone and express their well thought out concerns about our hobby with
me. I appreciate you giving me a chance to listen to you, trusting that I
was indeed doing exactly that - listening to you.
Now that I am working inside the walls at the ARRL, I find myself stunned by
the number of different topics that are being dealt with by the staff. Today
I still feel overwhelmed as I rush from office to office, absorbing history,
goals, and activity details for the incredibly diverse spectrum of interests
within amateur radio. It very clear to me that this Sales & Marketing
Manager job will put me in close touch with virtually every department in
the League.
I am making it my personal goal to insure that I work to maintain an open
and accommodating relationship with everyone here and, equally as important,
with the people we serve. I do feel some comfort knowing I do not need to
have all the answers but instead can draw on the vast resource of our
talented membership. I made note of the great marketing ideas you shared
with me and I will make sure the Marketing Team I am in the process of forming
gives them a good round of out-of-the-box discussion
Again, thanks for your call that reinforced this core belief of mine that I
am here to "develop" efforts that bring in additional members and revenues -
people like you will insure that I have an endless list of ideas to develop.
Although I know for sure that I will not be able to please everyone, I
promise you I will never use that as an excuse for not trying.
So...back to reeeally important matters - tell me again what the YCCC
signing bonus is?
73, Dennis Motschenbacher K7BV/1
ARRL Sales & Marketing Manager
860.594.0412
>From jdup at jdupree.com Thu Apr 18 23:03:14 2002
From: jdup@jdupree.com (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #1
Message-ID: <009301c1e746$70c1f190$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Contesters:
This post begins a review of spots from the 2002 WPX SSB contest.
I started looking at spots earlier this year, after the ARRL DX
contests, when I noticed that someone had spotted under my call.
Reviewing the WPX spots, there are patterns, especially from
spots made via IRC/DX Summit.
In the WPX contest, 248 US calls made close to 450 spots via
IRC/DX Summit. 27 of those US calls making spots, or
10.8%, were by inactive calls.
Only a handful of other US inactives were found in thousands
of spots from other nodes and clusters.
DX inactives were much more difficult to determine, because
of conflicting information on the web. I have tried to
err on the side of caution when dealing with those numbers.
Basically the data presented here will show the number of
"unique" spotters - that is, calls that made only one spot
during the contest (and often had never spotted before.)
Along with unique calls, there are calls that are inactive.
Those calls aren't being busted and spotted, but rather the
inactive calls are doing the spotting.
Also, there are spots from calls which never use IRC/DX Summit
to make spots - but for some reason used that to make
a spot of one of these stations.
Sometimes, patterns quickly emerge - such as a string of
spots of the same station on the exact same frequency.
Also, certain letter combinations become obvious because
of their placement on the keyboard. Look for spotting
stations with strings like FGH, GTY, GTF, DRF, HYG and
combinations like that.
This data will not "prove" that a certain station has faked
spots - the spot data will speak for itself and should be
interpreted by everyone on their own. I don't make any
contest rules, nor do I enforce any. This is just what I found.
These spots could be legit, they could be done by a friend, or
even a foe of the station being spotted - all with or without
that station's knowledge.
I do hope people will take the time to calmly evaluate
the data and then draw their own conclusions.
All times are in GMT.
Jamie NS3T
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:03:59 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #2
Message-ID: <009901c1e746$8b2ddc10$0000a398@COMPUTER>
US Inactives-WPX
This is a list of the inactive US calls which made spots in
the 2002 WPX SSB. The calls were checked with both Buckmaster
and the WM7D.net databases.
All of these spots originated from IRC/DX Summit except
for the spots of PY2NDX, which were spotted via a
node in Europe.
The inactive call of the spotter is first, followed by the
call of the station being spotted:
AG6TR (RS0F)
K2FGY (OH1F)
K3IUP (OH1F)
K3SK (RS0F)
K4JHV (UA9YAB)
K5UIP (PY2NDX)
K6LTX (RA0FU)
K8AQW (OH1F)
K8DGH (EA3ELZ)
K8IJL (ER6A)
K9APM (LT1A & LT1F)
KA4OWW (CQ1P)
KB5RT (AL1G)
KD7RDG (PY2NDX)
KF6SAK (PY2NDX)
KM4RT (EA3ELZ)
N4GHY (SV1SL)
W0JIG (NP2N/AG0)
W4RFC (UA9YAB)
W6JGH (TG9AJR)
W6JUD (WP3C)
W7UAS (UA9YAB)
W8GYT (SV1SL)
W8JGX (UA9YAB)
W8NNB (TG9AJR)
W9RSK (RS0F)
WA4DSF (TG9AJR)
WB3ERH (PY2NDX)
WB6WER (OH0V)
WB8ETG (EA3ELZ)
WB8FHG (TG9AJR)
WB8JFH (TG9AJR)
MORE
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:05:10 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #3
Message-ID: <00ac01c1e746$b5bffdf0$0000a398@COMPUTER>
The first example from the 2002 WPX SSB is LV7H.
During the contest, there were 54 spots of LV7H.
34 of those came from DX Summit.
Of those 34 spots, 27 of the spotting calls were
unique - meaning that station only spotted LV7H
during the contest. In fact, only two of these uniques
had previous spots on record.
As many as 18 of those 27 uniques were also inactive
calls, depending on the source (Buckmaster, etc.)
There were no inactive US calls found.
K3DZ 14155 LV7H Sun Mar 31 22:44:00 2002
OH2TR 28667 LV7H Sun Mar 31 18:48:00 2002
4Z5LJ 28544 LV7H Sun Mar 31 17:45:00 2002
IZ3ETV 28515 LV7H Sun Mar 31 15:25:00 2002
ES7DR 28597 LV7H Sun Mar 31 14:29:00 2002
ZS6IR 28530 LV7H Sun Mar 31 13:56:00 2002
F5FTR 28665 LV7H Sun Mar 31 13:14:00 2002
DL5GHY 28566 LV7H Sun Mar 31 12:39:00 2002
SP7FGT 28463 LV7H Sun Mar 31 12:14:00 2002
JA5GDT 21277 LV7H Sun Mar 31 02:25:00 2002
UT1AS 14234.5 LV7H Sun Mar 31 01:29:00 2002
JA5GDT 21277 LV7H Sun Mar 31 02:25:00 2002
UT1AS 14234.5 LV7H Sun Mar 31 01:29:00 2002
IK5DFT 21204 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 19:29:00 2002
ZS5DRF 28553.5 LV7H Sat Mar 30 18:37:00 2002
PY2FYS 28689 LV7H Sat Mar 30 17:11:00 2002
UR5TD 28553 LV7H Sat Mar 30 16:05:00 2002
OH7GH 28429 LV7H Sat Mar 30 12:19:00 2002
OM7M 28485 LV7H Sat Mar 30 12:17:00 2002
EA4DLE 28422 LV7H Sat Mar 30 11:46:00 2002
DL1ERK 28575 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 11:13:00 2002
SP6GTY 28534 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 10:53:00 2002
DL3FTN 14157 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 06:55:00 2002
EA3ARL 14338 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 06:25:00 2002
JF2ERD 21266 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 05:09:00 2002
JA7DHE 28537 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 04:40:00 2002
JA1FDE 21218.5 LV7H CONTET VIA LU7HF Sat Mar 30 01:51
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
In the WPX, there were 17 spots of TG9AJR. A dozen of
those spots were via IRC/DX Summit. Those 12 spots
also produced 12 unique calls. Every one of these
calls has no spots on record other than TG9AJR.
VE4TBD 14142 TG9AJR Sun Mar 31 23:56 2002
WA6DVC 21413 TG9AJR Sun Mar 31 23:43 2002
W6JGH 28306 TG9AJR Sun Mar 31 23:15 2002
WA4DSF 28306 TG9AJR Test Sun Mar 31 23:08 2002
HA3SDF 21185 TG9AJR Sun Mar 31 06:36 2002
WB8FHG 21436 TG9AJR Sat Mar 30 18:49 2002
W8NNB 28707 TG9AJR Test Sat Mar 30 14:44 2002
KC0ADF 28707 TG9AJR Sat Mar 30 14:34 2002
EA3FVB 28707 TG9AJR Sat Mar 30 14:19 2002
WB8JFH 28707 TG9AJR Sat Mar 30 14:02 2002
VE3DFG 28689 TG9AJR Test Sat Mar 30 13:49 2002
LU7FHG 21210 TG9AJR CQ CONTEST WPX Sat Mar 30 06:19 2002
At least six of those calls are inactive.
They include: VE4TBD, W6JGH, WA4DSF, WB8FHG, W8NNB and WB8JFH.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
In the WPX, there were 80 spots of RS0F. Of those, 59 spots
came via IRC/DX Summit. 33 of those 59 calls were uniques -
meaning that station only spotted RS0F during the contest.
For all but two calls, this is the only spot listed
on record by this call.
10-14 of those unique calls were also inactive, depending
on the source (Buckmaster, etc.) Two of those inactive
calls were from the US: AG6TR and W6NHS.
Here are the uniques for RS0F:
KS6T 21370.8 RS0F Sun Mar 31 23:51:00 2002
AD6KA 21370.8 RS0F Sun Mar 31 23:44:00 2002
K3SK 21387 RS0F Sun Mar 31 12:20:00 2002
UT7EE 21387 RS0F Sun Mar 31 12:16:00 2002
9A8M 21387 RS0F Sun Mar 31 12:03:00 2002
G4RDG 21386.9 RS0F Sun Mar 31 12:00:00 2002
JA8DLC 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:52:00 2002
UA9AN 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:43:00 2002
VK4WPX 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:37:00 2002
ON4CSA 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:16:00 2002
ON4CAZ 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:09:00 2002
IZ3WWY 21387 RS0F rusia spase station! Sun Mar 31 10:55
HA1SN 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 10:53:00 2002
YB0DPI 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 09:32:00 2002
OE5RU 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 09:27:00 2002
DL7YD 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 09:18:00 2002
G4RDF 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 08:51:00 2002
DL1GN 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 08:44:00 2002
OK1KMS 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 08:41:00 2002
LZ5Z 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 08:22:00 2002
VE7AVV 21220 RS0F Sun Mar 31 04:43:00 2002
L20E 21220 RS0F Sun Mar 31 04:33:00 2002
K6HRU 21268 RS0F Sun Mar 31 03:43:00 2002
NA7Z 21268 RS0F Sun Mar 31 03:37:00 2002
K7TR 21268 RS0F Sun Mar 31 03:19:00 2002
KR5D 21268 RS0F Sun Mar 31 03:09:00 2002
AG6TR 21304.7 RS0F Sun Mar 31 02:22:00 2002
N2UVR 21304.7 RS0F Sun Mar 31 01:47:00 2002
NA0U 21448.8 RS0F Sun Mar 31 00:07:00 2002
W6NHS 21448.9 RS0F Sun Mar 31 00:00:00 2002
W9RSK 21325 RS0F Sat Mar 30 23:44:00 2002
W6RS 21325 RS0F Sat Mar 30 23:22:00 2002
SP3FR 21415.8 RS0F Sat Mar 30 12:02:00 2002
12 other stations spotted RS0F with their only IRC/
DX Summit spot of the contest - while using a different
node for other WPX spots:
W2GG, AA3B, W3AS, RM6A, DL8AAM, SK6DZ, RL3A, DL2HX,
UA6LGR, YU1RE, RK9CZO and JA5WNH.
MORE
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:06:03 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #4
Message-ID: <00b101c1e746$d53100d0$0000a398@COMPUTER>
The next example, PY2NDX is different from all of the others
presented here. There were 51 WPX spots of PY2NDX.
32 of those spots were made thru a node in Spain.
Of the 28 stations that spotted thru that node, 23 of the
calls were uniques, meaning that they only spotted
PY2NDX during the contest. For many, this is their only
spot on record.
Of those 23 uniques, at least 11 of the calls are inactive.
The US inactives include: WB3ERH, W8TGP, K5UIP and KD7RDG.
Here is the list of unique spotters:
KF4RGB 21349.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 23:58
K9JU 21349.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 23:50:
K9JU 28508.1 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 23:09:
K9JU 21406.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 22:27
UA4JV 14133.8 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 21:48
PA3ERT 14211.3 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 21:08
M0FTY 21327.4 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 19:30
DF4RG 21353.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 19:10
SP4JL 28540 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 18:55
OK1ASG 28673 PY2NDX cq wpx Sun Mar 31 15:11
JA1GIO 21318 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 02:06
JA1DVF 21317.8 PY2NDX wpx Sun Mar 31 01:22
WB3ERH 21317 PY2NDX wpx Sun Mar 31 00:48
W8TGP 28562.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 00:29
K5UIP 28562.5 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 23:52
W9TY 28562.5 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 22:17
DL2JIK 21306.5 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 21:30
W3FG 28331.8 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 20:44
KF9RF 28331.8 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 20:35
KF6SAK 28532 PY2NDX cq wpx Sat Mar 30 19:42
EA4HJE 28559 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 17:13
K4VB 28653.8 PY2NDX wpx Sat Mar 30 14:40
IK2WDH 28650 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 11:09
JA3ESJ 14176 PY2NDX wpx Sat Mar 30 09:49
KD7RDG 14188 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 05:55
Again, all of these spots of PY2NDX were made thru a node
in Spain. That same node is regularly used for spotting by
PY2NDX during non-contest periods. A similar pattern
was observed during the ARRL DX SSB contest.
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
JT1BV
In the WPX SSB, there were 22 spots of JT1BV.
16 of those 22 spots were via IRC/DX Summit.
Those produced 15 "unique" calls:
EA1TI 28480 JT1BV Sun Mar 31 04:50:00 2002
JA1WQL 28525 JT1BV Sun Mar 31 03:30:00 2002
JH5HDA 28485 JT1BV Sun Mar 31 03:21:00 2002
DS2AHI 28485 JT1BV cq Sun Mar 31 03:09:00 2002
JA3ULR 28485 JT1BV test Sun Mar 31 02:50:00 2002
UQ1D 28510 JT1BV Mongolia Sun Mar 31 02:42
EA1WYF 28545 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 09:41:00 2002
IK5VHU 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 08:34:00 2002
RA3SA 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 08:22:00 2002
9A5ST 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 07:44:00 2002
DL1BBR 28400 JT1BV naran u get qsl 0n 40m 4 Sat Mar 30 07:10
YT7TY 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 06:41:00 2002
RZ6BU 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 06:32:00 2002
KC7UP 28605 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 02:58:00 2002
WA6AQQ 28605 JT1BV cq contest! Sat Mar 30 02:49:00
For what it's worth, there were five self-spots for JT1BV as well:
JT1BV 28480.0 JT1BV contest 0205 30 Mar 2002
JT1BV 28485.0 JT1BV 0314 30 Mar 2002
JT1BV 28685.0 JT1BV cq contest!0621 30 Mar 2002
JT1BV 28495.0 JT1BV 0701 30 Mar 2002
JT1BV 28690.0 JT1BV 0733 30 Mar 2002
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
YL7C
In the WPX SSB contest, there were 27 spots of YL7C.
14 stations made 21 spots of YL7C via IRC/DX Summit.
Of those 14 calls, 13 were uniques (several had multiple
spots of YL7C.) As many as 9 of the DX calls could
be inactive.
K6CAL 14238.6 YL7C WPX Sun Mar 31 18:30
W7CZ 14238.6 YL7C WPX Sun Mar 31 18:18
K6CAL 14238.6 YL7C cq Sun Mar 31 17:47
KE4HW 21297.5 YL7C WPX Sun Mar 31 15:12
K7GE 21240 YL7C Sun Mar 31 17:15
PA3KD 14166.3 YL7C LOUD Sun Mar 31 08:55
JA7MMI 28587.7 YL7C Sun Mar 31 08:03
JA5MWE 28537.7 YL7C Sun Mar 31 07:08
K7GE 14164.5 YL7C WPX Sun Mar 31 04:30
YB8QY 14219.9 YL7C LOUD Sat Mar 30 19:11
KE4HW 14243.8 YL7C Sat Mar 30 18:27:
KE4HW 21425.3 YL7C Sat Mar 30 14:21
KE4HW 28564.6 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 12:52
XA2LA 21145.8 YL7C Sat Mar 30 11:27
JA5MWE 21302.6 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 10:35
JF5RJK 28655.8 YL7C Sat Mar 30 09:35
DS5REF 28590 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 09:24
JH6TRC 28590 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 09:02
JA7MMI 28385.6 YL7C LOUD Sat Mar 30 08:27
JA8BBN 28328.2 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 08:12:
MORE
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:06:43 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #5
Message-ID: <00b201c1e746$ed3d0250$0000a398@COMPUTER>
LT1F
During the WPX contest, there were over 130 spots of LT1F.
Of those, 55 spots came via mIRC - those will be the spots
that this data concerns.
Of those 55 spots via mIRC, 43 of the calls were unique -
meaning that station only spotted LT1F during the contest.
7-12 of these calls were also inactive, depending
on the source (Buckmaster, etc.)
The only US inactive was K9APM. The note from K9APM
is: "assisted category." These are the uniques:
JA5SUD 14223.5 LT1F booming signal Sun Mar 31 22:00
JA1EEG 28533.8 LT1F good signal in JA Sun Mar 31 21:56
PY5XT 3780 LT1F 59 wpx Sun Mar 31 21:48
K9APM 28555 LT1F assisted category Sun Mar 31 21:36
N5YE 28544.9 LT1F Sun Mar 31 20:38
WS0V 28544.9 LT1F Sun Mar 31 20:10
SM5DYC 21349.7 LT1F 59 wpx Sun Mar 31 20:07
DK9SD 28576 LT1F Sun Mar 31 19:56
W0AJU 21349.7 LT1F 59 Sun Mar 31 19:42
UN8GF 14300 LT1F good signal Sun Mar 31 19:39
PA0ATY 28576 LT1F 59==== Sun Mar 31 19:36
G3JJZ 21349.7 LT1F wpx very strong Sun Mar 31 19:13
LU1FAM 21375.8 LT1F Look for Us!!! :)) Sun Mar 31 18:02
IK2ULM 28657.5 LT1F Sun Mar 31 17:36
LU1FAM 28537.2 LT1F Sun Mar 31 16:53
HB9AWS 28632.9 LT1F few takers! Sun Mar 31 13:05
LY5W 28632.9 LT1F WEAK SIGNAL Sun Mar 31 12:52
UT6EE 21328.9 LT1F long path (lp wpx) Sun Mar 31 12:13
DL3DBY 28632.9 LT1F wpx very strong Sun Mar 31 12:09
JH4AS 14219.6 LT1F cq contest Sun Mar 31 09:15
DN8AF 14334 LT1F DX CONTEST Sun Mar 31 07:32
JR3LFP 21355 LT1F Sun Mar 31 06:55
EA3ACA 14334 LT1F Sun Mar 31 06:53:
VA7AM 7080.5 LT1F qsx 7269 Sun Mar 31 06:43
HC1OT 7048 LT1F qsx 7211 contest Sun Mar 31 05:25
W7KQZ 14321 LT1F contest Sun Mar 31 05:15
JA1KWB 28415 LT1F Sun Mar 31 04:21
W4QK 21355 LT1F Sun Mar 31 04:20
OH6XY 7051.2 LT1F Sun Mar 31 04:17
RU9AF 28414 LT1F cq cq Sun Mar 31 04:00
VP2YV 21355 LT1F contest Sun Mar 31 03:59:
JK1NOP 28415.4 LT1F WPX BOOMING SIGNAL Sun Mar 31 02:01
JA7NUR 21228.7 LT1F WPX / BIG SIGNAL Sun Mar 31 01:59
KK4TA 14290 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:58:
W1TRB 7056 LT1F qsx 7227 Sun Mar 31 00:51
JA4YHX 14200 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:41
N02A 28413.6 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:29
N2NI 21228.7 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:28
WS7V 3790 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:27
SVGHF 14329 LT1F Sat Mar 30 23:32
K6AY 28438 LT1F Sat Mar 30 23:25
W9YK 28438.2 LT1F Sat Mar 30 23:21
LU9FHY 7050 LT1F Sat Mar 30 23:16
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
UA9YAB
During the WPX contest, there were 30 spots of UA9YAB.
Of those, 11 spots came via mIRC/DX Summit.
Of those 11 spots via mIRC, 9 of the calls were unique -
as many as seven of those uniques were also inactive calls,
depending on the source (Buckmaster, etc.)
The US inactives were:
W8JGX 28620 UA9YAB Sun Mar 31 13:25
W4RFC 28355 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 13:39
K4JHV 28355 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 13:07
W7UAS 28546.3 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 01:37
Here are the other uniques:
PY7TFZ 28620 UA9YAB Big in WPX Sun Mar 31 11:53
JK7SXM 28528 UA9YAB Sun Mar 31 03:44
JH1ACA 28440 UA9YAB Sun Mar 31 01:19
SP7YHC 28536.6 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 06:55
JH1ACA 28545 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 01:06
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
UU7J
During the WPX contest, there were 62 spots of UU7J.
Of those, 30 spots came via mIRC/DX Summit.
Of those 30 spots, 19 of the calls were "unique" -
2-5 of those uniques were also inactive calls, depending
on the source (Buckmaster, etc.) There were no US inactives,
but the WA1Z spot would seem to be out of band.
Here are the uniques:
VE7VZ 14136 UU7J Sun Mar 31 23:47
WA1Z 14132 UU7J Sun Mar 31 22:50
M3JAG 14169.2 UU7J Sun Mar 31 21:30
CT1GFK 14169.2 UU7J Sun Mar 31 19:13
WA2AGE 14170 UU7J loud Sun Mar 31 17:24:
JE0EHE 14170 UU7J Sun Mar 31 16:42
EU3AR 14170 UU7J Sun Mar 31 14:21
DL1EF 14170 UU7J wpx Sun Mar 31 13:31
W1TE 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 13:00
DK4ZZ 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 12:32
OZ5RM 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 10:26
RW4HB 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 10:11
OK2BJK 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 07:35
WN6R 14212 UU7J wpx loud Sun Mar 31 00:45
ON7CC 14187 UU7J Sat Mar 30 20:24
G0TTM 14187 UU7J Sat Mar 30 20:15
IZ5ENH 14187.1 UU7J wpx Sat Mar 30 19:22
UA9ACE 14192.9 UU7J Sat Mar 30 14:10
SM7CQY 14193 UU7J Sat Mar 30 13:24
SM7CQY 14207.5 UU7J Sat Mar 30 08:45
MORE
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:07:32 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #6
Message-ID: <00b501c1e747$09ec4d20$0000a398@COMPUTER>
RA0FU
There were 17 spots of RA0FU during the WPX SSB contest.
Of those 17, 8 spots were via IRC/DX Summit.
Those eight calls produced eight unique spots and
as many as six inactive calls, including K6LTX.
K6LTX 28512.2 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 23:35:00 2002
F6GPJ 28612.6 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 10:40:00 2002
SP3AK 28613 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 10:21:00 2002
OK1DFA 28575.7 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 09:33:00 2002
DL4OCG 28575 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 09:07:00 2002
OE3DFG 28575 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 08:33:00 2002
EA5GF 28348.2 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 08:06:00 2002
LY3GA 28514 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 07:35:00 2002
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
RD4M
During the WPX contest, there were 36 spots of RD4M.
Of those, 24 spots came via mIRC/DX Summit.
Of those 24 spots via mIRC, 7 of the calls were unique -
3-6 of those uniques were also inactive calls, depending
on the source (Buckmaster, etc.)
There were no inactive US calls found in these spots.
The uniques are as follows:
DL3WQ 7080.9 RD4M Sun Mar 31 23:48:00 2002
F6HYY 7033.3 RD4M Sun Mar 31 22:00:00 2002
DL1WAL 21320 RD4M Sun Mar 31 16:16:00 2002
JK1DLW 28532 RD4M Sun Mar 31 05:55:00 2002
NI2W 14197 RD4M Sun Mar 31 04:43:00 2002
DF2WE 21225.1 RD4M Sat Mar 30 16:13:00 2002
DN1ET 28552 RD4M Sat Mar 30 12:12:00 2002
Five other stations spotted RD4M with their only mIRC/DX Summit
spot of the entire contest:
RL3A, RZ3AZ, PA1BRZ, NR2D and RU4HP
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
5B4/R3CC
During the WPX contest, there were 80 spots of UA9YAB.
Of those, 14 spots came via mIRC/DX Summit.
Of those 14 spots via mIRC, 6 of the calls were unique -
Two of those uniques were also inactive calls, according
to Buckmaster. There were no US inactives.
Here are the uniques:
DL6DGI 3798.5 5B4/R3CC Sun Mar 31 20:47:00 2002
KB3BBJ 28527.7 5B4/R3CC Sun Mar 31 16:52:00 2002
JH6WNY 28522.3 5B4/R3CC Sun Mar 31 05:07:00 2002
JA3VXH 28516 5B4/R3CC wpx Sun Mar 31 04:57:00 2002
KC8QKF 21300 5B4/R3CC Sat Mar 30 01:51:00 2002
KC3SF 21300 5B4/R3CC Sat Mar 30 01:38:00 2002
N3FYW 21301.3 5B4/R3CC loud Sat Mar 30 01:15:00 2002
There were also these two spots from W1AAA:
W1AAA 21200 5B4/R3CC self spot on dxsummit Sat Mar 30 01:57
W1AAA 21205 5B4/R3CC using bogus calls Sat Mar 30 01:57
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
EA3ELZ
There were 10 spots of EA3ELZ in the WPX SSB. Four of those
spots were via IRC/DX Summit. All four were uniques:
WB8ETG 28731.4 EA3ELZ BIG SIG Sun Mar 31 16:35
K8DGH 28766 EA3ELZ BIG SIG Sun Mar 31 13:40
NO5R 14349.2 EA3ELZ WPX Sun Mar 31 03:35
KM4RT 14315.5 EA3ELZ Sat Mar 30 02:29
US callbook servers say that three of these calls are
not active: WB8ETG, K8DGH and KM4RT.
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
AN5OL
In the WPX, there were seven spots for AN5OL, all seven
were uniques. Note the similarity in the three G-calls.
G0PPF 28401 AN5OL Sun Mar 31 12:41:00 2002
US2IR 28549.5 AN5OL Sun Mar 31 07:25:00 2002
G0PPP 28390.9 AN5OL Sat Mar 30 11:38:00 2002
LY2AT 28390.8 AN5OL via EA5OL Sat Mar 30 11:02:00
G0PPP 21310 AN5OL test Sat Mar 30 10:40:00 2002
G0PPH 14285 AN5OL Sat Mar 30 08:23:00 2002
G0PPH 14288 AN5OL Sat Mar 30 07:32:00 2002
G0PPH is active - but it is unclear from web searches whether
G0PPP and G0PPF are as well. All of those spots were made
from a node in Spain. The other two spots were from mIRC/DX Summit.
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
WP3C
During the WPX contest, there were 47 spots of WP3C.
5 of those spots came via IRC/DX Summit - those five
stations were all uniques, only spotting WP3C.
Two of those calls are listed as inactive.
VE3RM 28666.6 WP3C Sun Mar 31 18:04:00 2002
I7RFG 28856 WP3C Via W3HNK Sun Mar 31 15:19:00 2002
KP4AH 28638.5 WP3C TEST Sun Mar 31 12:45:00 2002
W6JUD 21335.5 WP3C TEST Sun Mar 31 12:24:00 2002
NP3KI 7090 WP3C 7279.0 Sun Mar 31 11:19:00 2002
KP4AH 7091 WP3C 7199.0 Sat Mar 30 09:06:00 2002
NP3KI 7091 WP3C 7200.0 Sat Mar 30 08:30:00 2002
The inactive calls are W6JUD and I7RFG.
Also, there are two self-spots for WP3C from the WPX:
WP3C-WPX 28420.0 WP3C WPX KP42319 31 Mar 2002
WP3C 7087.5 WP3C 7288.0 KP40641 30 Mar 2002
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
RW3DU
In the WPX contest, there were 9 spots of RW3DU.
They included spots from eight unique calls:
JS6GIM 28462 RW3DU BIG Sun Mar 31 11:20:00 2002
F6KTL 21253.5 RW3DU BIG SIGNAL Sun Mar 31 06:53:00
OH2K 3730.2 RW3DU Sat Mar 30 19:40:00 2002
RK6BZ 3749 RW3DU CQ TEST Sat Mar 30 17:45:00 2002
EA7FVX 14305 RW3DU Sat Mar 30 17:03:00 2002
WS1A 21383.5 RW3DU Sat Mar 30 12:40:00 2002
NB1B 21245 RW3DU FB Sat Mar 30 12:32:00 2002
DL7FER 14256.5 RW3DU BIG SIGNAL Sat Mar 30 11:24:00
Seven of these spots were via IRC/DX Summit, only RK6BZ was not.
NB1B usually uses another node.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
NP2N/AG0
In the WPX, 10 stations made 17 spots of NP2N/AG0.
Two of the spots came from W0JIG, which is not an active call:
W0JIG 14270 NP2N/AG0 Sat Mar 30 14:27
W0JIG 14195.5 NP2N/AG0 LOUD IN CENTRAL IOWA Sat Mar 30 03:15
NP2N/AG0 was also spotted 7 times by W0ANZ.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
OH1F
There were 20 total spots of OH1F during the WPX contest.
Four of those spots came via IRC/DX Summit - three of
the calls were unique spotters:
K2FGY 213582 OH1F Sun Mar 31 16:04:00 2002
K3IUP 21379 OH1F Sat Mar 30 17:29:00 2002
K8AQW 21379 OH1F Sat Mar 30 17:04:00 2002
All three of these US calls are listed as inactive.
*********************************************
>From ki9a at aol.com Fri Apr 19 00:04:00 2002
From: ki9a@aol.com (ki9a@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
Message-ID: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
#2 & #3,"unique" spots, inactive calls, blah,blah,blah.
Is this really going to make or break contesting?
DO THE RULES STATE YOU NEED TO USE YOUR OWN CALL TO PUT *INTERNET*, yes,
INTERNET spots up??
This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not condone using "fake" calls for
spotting, but, I'm sure there are better things to talk about than this BS.
Again folks, you don't need to correctly ID on the internet spots, errr, maybe
they changed the rules? Maybe I will spot guys during the next contest using
the word MOE or CURLEY instead of my own call, I'm sure NS3T will drive himself
nuts trying to figure if MOE is still active? ;-)
73-Chuck KI9A
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Fri Apr 19 05:32:44 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
In-Reply-To: <200204190252.g3J2qj9F030858@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020419041415.00d41b00@pop.pacific.net.hk>
If dealing with the logs, putting together the results & getting out
certificates &
plaques is anything like QSLs, then I don't envy the lot of volunteers like
N8BJQ,
K4JRB, K3EST & Co, etc.
Sometimes I wonder how I include an SAE & IRC in my Cabrillo file in order to
help make getting the certificate back to me easier for these guys - or
what the
tag is for including a credit card number to pay for a plaque that the
original sponsor
may not have followed through with, or to pay for one if I may have
qualified for one
which had not been sponsored.
Sometimes I reckon there's simply more that the participants could be doing.
For example, what's a plaque cost - USD50? That's less per day than it costs
to leave my motor at the airport when I fly to 9M6 for the weekend, let alone
the plane ticket itself. Heck, I don't see much change out of USD50 driving
into town to collect QSLs from my PO box!
The certificates are often not such a big deal, as #1 HK is almost always a
given.
I do get a kick out of the ones that are endorsed as zone winner, #1 Asia, #5
world or the like... wish we could see more of that. Awards help fuel activity
in the event, IMHO. They are important, just like those pesky QSLs we get as
a result of operating in them.
I'm still shy of Real Contester status, so believe to date I've earned only
one Real
Contest plaque. It is for WPX, but I'm patient. Just like discussing
UBNs, these
guys are reasonable & I for one am willing to cut them some slack.
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From k8cc at comcast.net Fri Apr 19 02:05:08 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (Dave Pruett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Routes For MiQP Mobiles This Weekend
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020419004959.0098c5e0@mail.comcast.net>
One last reminder the 2002 Michigan QSO Party is this weekend, running from
16Z on Saturday to 04Z Sunday. Full rules are available on the MRRC web
site at http://www.mrrc.net.
A big part of the activity in state QSO parties comes from mobile stations
who roam the countryside activating rare or uncommon counties. MiQP is no
different and there will be ten full time mobile stations out this
weekend. Here are their callsigns and the counties they will activate:
AA8U:
Jackson, Ingham, Eaton, Calhoun, Barry, Allegan, Kent, Ottawa, Muskegon,
Newaygo, Montcalm, Ionia, Gratiot, Clinton
AF8A:
Saginaw, Gratiot, Montcalm, Mecosta, Isabella, Midland, Newaygo, Muskegon,
Osceola, Mason, Lake, Manistee, Clare, Glad, Bay, Genesee, Livingston,
Washtenaw, Monroe
K5OT:
Baraga, Houghton, Ontonogon, Gogebic, Iron, Dickenson, Menominee
K8CC:
Presque Isle, Alpena, Alcona, Iosco, Arenac, Bay, Saginaw, Tuscola, Huron,
Sanilac, St. Clair, Macomb, Lapeer, Genesee, Shiawassee, Ingham,
Livingston, Oakland, Wayne, Monroe, Lenawee, Washtenaw
K8IR:
Dickinson, Iron, Gogebic, Ontonagon, Houghton, Keweenaw, Baraga, Marquette,
Alger, Delta, Menominee
K8MR:
Bay, Arenac, Gladwin, Ogemaw, Roscommon, Crawford, Oscoda, Montmorency,
Otsego, Cheboygan, Emmet, Charlevoix, Antrim, Kalkaska, Grand
Traverse, Wexford, Missaukee, Osceola, Clare, Isabella, Gratiot, Clinton,
Ingham, Livingston, Washtenaw
KU8E:
Monroe, Lenawee, Hillsdale, Jackson, Branch, St Joseph, Cass, Berrien, Van
Buren, Kalamazoo, Calhoun, Barry, Eaton, Ingham, Livingston
N8FYL:
Route TBD
W1NN:
Ottawa, Allegan, Kent, Ionia, Barry, Eaton, Clinton, Shiawassee, Ingham,
Livingston, Oakland, Wayne, Washtenaw
W8UE:
Delta, Alger, Marquette, Schoolcraft, Luce, Chippewa, Mackinaw, Emmet,
Cheboygan, Otsego, Charlevoix, Antrim, Kalkaska, Grand Traverse, Leelenaw,
Benzie, Manistee, Mason, Lake, Newago, Oceana, Mecosta, Isabella, Midland
WT9U:
Route is TBD
GL and hope to see everyone this weekend.
73,
Dave/K8CC
>From 4n1fg at infosky.net Fri Apr 19 10:36:36 2002
From: 4n1fg@infosky.net (Sasha Milojevic - 4N1FG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] YUDX Contest
Message-ID: <004901c1e774$faef3d90$0c67fac3@sasha>
Hallo dear friends and contesters,
I would like to invite you to participate in YUDX Contest that will take
place on next weekend, April 20/21, Saturday 12:00 UTC - Sunday 12:00 UTC.
Complete rules and software you can find on http://yudx.net
73 de 4N1FG, Sasha
4n1fg@qsl.net
>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Fri Apr 19 12:38:06 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (Timo)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #6
References: <00b501c1e747$09ec4d20$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Message-ID: <002701c1e77d$875e0a60$a3c5f83e@tklimoff>
> OH1F
>
> There were 20 total spots of OH1F during the WPX contest.
> Four of those spots came via IRC/DX Summit - three of
> the calls were unique spotters:
>
> K2FGY 213582 OH1F Sun Mar 31 16:04:00 2002
> K3IUP 21379 OH1F Sat Mar 30 17:29:00 2002
> K8AQW 21379 OH1F Sat Mar 30 17:04:00 2002
>
> All three of these US calls are listed as inactive.
This is very interesting because a club station OH1F has no access to IRC/DX
Summit ( = no self spotting possible via this route). So the most interesting
question is: why on Earth someone spots us with most likely fake callsign but
not with his/her own call? (Maybe SWL?)
Timo OH1NOA
one of OH1F (ES9C in WPX)
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Fri Apr 19 12:25:16 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r thanks
Message-ID: <000c01c1e794$e23a4450$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Thanks for all the comments on so2r equipment, there are of course too
many replies to respond to each one directly. Hopefully I will get to
read through them all and summarize here or on my web site shortly.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Fri Apr 19 09:08:58 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FW: nice work!
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEGGDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
-----Original Message-----
From: jljarvis [mailto:jljarvis@adelphia.net]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:08 AM
To: jdup@jdupree.com
Subject: nice work!
Jamie/NS3T,
Not very many guys have the capability to do the search/analysis
you did...and of those, few would take the time. Nice bit of work.
What this does is set a standard for the contest committees...if
they choose to go there....for the kind of analysis which is possible.
The only 'weak' spot in it is identifying calls which are 'active'...
and I would assume that contest committees would draw up on log
submissions as well as buckmaster, or other reporting services.
What your data makes abundantly clear, is that there is a relatively
high level of packet piracy going on. The potential is there for this
to increase.
This would seem to be difficult ground upon which to formulate
competitive policy. Want your chief rival DQ'd? Spot 'im!
For that matter...and this is another thread....want your chief rival's
rate to drop? Spot 'im!
Jim Jarvis, N2EA
>From robert.chandler at sympatico.ca Fri Apr 19 09:37:28 2002
From: robert.chandler@sympatico.ca (Bob Chandler, VE3SRE)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ONTARIO QSO PARTY - THIS WEEKEND!
Message-ID: <010201c1e79e$f762f070$f0b9fea9@CATDISH>
Hi!
The 6th Annual Ontario QSO Party takes place this
weekend April 20-21st starting at 1800 UTC Saturday
running to 1800 UTC Sunday sponsored by the
Ontario DX Association.
Details are available at http://www.odxa.on.ca/oqphome.html
Files are available for TR-log, NA-log, N1MM's new logging
programme and Log-EQF. As well VE3SYB has
developed a logging programme called "OQP-log"
specifically for this contest.
CU on the bands!
73 de Bob VE3SRE
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>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Fri Apr 19 07:13:04 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
In-Reply-To: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20020419131304.17022.qmail@web13304.mail.yahoo.com>
Ahh, well. Someone failed to READ all of NS3T's
comments concerning his intent and purpose for
the postings, it seems.
I did not read NS3T's comments as flames,
attempts to engage in a witch hunt or anything
like that.
I saw it as an attempt to provide data and some
kind of REASONABLE thought and analysis as to the
WHAT behind the WHY.
ALthough I'm not an analyst, I found it useful
for thought and consideration as I'm sure others
did as well.
Thanks, NS3T, for the info.
73
Chuck K3FT
========================================
There's an old saying.. 'You don't like what you
hear (read) on the radio.. spin the dial (hit
delete)' HI!
-......"This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not
> condone using "fake" calls for spotting, but,
> I'm sure there are better things to talk about
> than this BS.
>
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>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Apr 19 09:28:47 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
In-Reply-To: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204190819300.9820-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 ki9a@aol.com wrote:
> #2 & #3,"unique" spots, inactive calls, blah,blah,blah.
>
> Is this really going to make or break contesting?
>
> DO THE RULES STATE YOU NEED TO USE YOUR OWN CALL TO PUT *INTERNET*, yes,
> INTERNET spots up??
>
> This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not condone using "fake" calls for
> spotting, but, I'm sure there are better things to talk about than this BS.
>
> Again folks, you don't need to correctly ID on the internet spots, errr,
> maybe they changed the rules? Maybe I will spot guys during the next contest
> using the word MOE or CURLEY instead of my own call, I'm sure NS3T will drive
> himself nuts trying to figure if MOE is still active? ;-)
>
> 73-Chuck KI9A
What happened to SHEMP? :-)
I agree; this whole thing is pretty much pointless. No one is going to be
able to prove anything out of it; possibly some of the stations who in
fact did only spot one callsign once during the contest will be offended.
And what constitutes an "inactive station"? Who decides that? I would go
through the effort of contacting each and verifying he/she wasn't in the
contest and didn't spot anybody before making such a broad statement. And
again, it's going to be difficult or impossible to determine and prove who
did make the spot if it was with a fake callsign.
I only made about 10 QSO's during WPX SSB because I lost my voice due to a
virus. I didn't send in a log. I may have spotted somene during that
time; does that make me a suspected villain? Does that make me an
"inactive station"?
Let's discuss something else. Who's going to be in the TARA PSK Rumble
this weekend?
73, Zack W9SZ
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Fri Apr 19 08:30:28 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
References: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00d301c1e7a6$5f1f9fe0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
> This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not condone using "fake" calls for
spotting, but, I'm sure there are better things to talk about than this BS.
Jamie - I on the other hand think your analysis is intriguing and
insightful. We need a lot more of this type of analysis to shed light on the
actual activities and fundamental nature of contesting. I suspect that only
detailed empirical analysis not hearsay will be the only way we can move
amateur radio contesting to a higher plane that it is currently on.
I am still studying you finding. Keep up the good work and keep us informed!
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From k2kw at prodigy.net Fri Apr 19 08:02:02 2002
From: k2kw@prodigy.net (KEN SILVERMAN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DX Holiday Web Page - Major Update
Message-ID: <009c01c1e7aa$c9ee9fc0$97d3fea9@a>
I am pleased to announce the latest update to DX Holiday www.dxholiday.com,
your best source for DXpedition information on Rent-a-QTHs, Ham Friendly
Locations, and Club stations.
This update includes changes to over 55 DXCC Entities.
3B8 3B9 3DA0 3W 6Y 7P 9M2 9M6 9Q A2 A3
A5 C9 CE0 CY9 D4 DU FG FM GJ GW HC8
HI HL HR J6 JW JX K KH0 KH4 KH6 LX LY
OH0 SM SV T7 T88 T9 TG TI TI9 TK TU UT
V2 V5 VK9X YK YU Z2 ZK1 ZS
There are some new Rent-a-QTH additions in: FM, V2, A5, SM, LY, and the KH0
location was improved. Unfortunately we have lost Rent-a-QTH's in:
KH4 and A35. (KH4 is no longer open to the public)
Thanks to all those who submitted information. I must also apologize for
the long awaited update, but life events didn't leave much time for ham
radio since I started working in August 2001. (That was the date of the
last update). Monthly updates will continue again.
If you've been on a recent DXpedition, please send me details of your trip
so others can benefit from your experience!
73, Kenny K2KW
www.dxholiday.com
>From wd3q at erols.com Fri Apr 19 08:19:34 2002
From: wd3q@erols.com (Eric Rosenberg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
Message-ID: <190402109.26373@webbox.com>
When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of my CQWW logs,
I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN information.
I may have gotten that email and subsequent information, but
if I did, I no longer have it.
How can I get it (again)?
Eric W3DQ
Washington DC
>From paspe at mega.ist.utl.pt Fri Apr 19 16:30:51 2002
From: paspe@mega.ist.utl.pt (Pedro Antonio De Sousa Pedroso)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ certificates
In-Reply-To: <E16yHCR-0002by-00@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10204191529370.28588-100000@mega>
I am still waiting for a WPX award from CQ WW WPX CW 1999
.... never understood why it is taking so long.
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Merrimon Crawford Pladsen wrote:
> From: Merrimon Crawford Pladsen <ab0mv@ix.netcom.com>
> To: CQ-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ certificates
>
> I know people still waiting for certificates/plaques from 1999 CQ contests.
> 4 years is too long. Those responsible will not respond to repeated
> questions via email or snail mail. Even a simple response that those
> responsible & CQ contest committee are aware of the delay and are trying to
> do something about it would be better than refusing any response to
> certificate/plaque winners!
> 73
> Merri AB0MV
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Fri Apr 19 11:01:32 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] It's All in the Mind, You Know
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020419094646.00b809f8@pop.pdq.net>
Packet thread has been interesting to say the least.
Still, Ham Radio is just a hobby, and hobbies are to enjoy.
Self spotting.
Clandestine spotting.
Buddy repeat spotting.
QSO begging spotting.
QLF.
QRQ.
QRS.
F1, F2, F3, F4 - Can't copy CW.
F1, F2, F3, F4 - Can't send CW.
Frequency police.
Scoldings for not using split.
Deliberate QRM.
Net ownership of frequencies.
Contesters destroying telephone quality SSB chit chat of rag chewers.
Hemorrhoid, aches and pains, and medication QSO content.
Political QSO's.
High Power.
Low Power.
Big antennae.
No antennae.
Stations with maintenance crews.
Stations hiding in a closet.
TVI.
BCI.
RFI.
Front Row Monkeys.
Back Row Monkeys.
Audio adjustment # 2437.
Funny how some things bug me, and some things make me laugh.
Guess I better to just learn to laugh more - at more,
and get bugged less - at less.
Maybe then, I'm gonna find I enjoy my hobby every bit as much as I seem to
keep telling myself.
Who else wants to join me in trying to enjoy the hobby enough to get past
most of the above list?
I really do like to laugh.
Maybe ham radio and laughter would make for a great day on a repeated basis.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Apr 19 11:23:05 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
In-Reply-To: <20020419131304.17022.qmail@web13304.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204191014570.13474-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Chuck wrote:
> Ahh, well. Someone failed to READ all of NS3T's
> comments concerning his intent and purpose for
> the postings, it seems.
>
> I did not read NS3T's comments as flames,
> attempts to engage in a witch hunt or anything
> like that.
>
> I saw it as an attempt to provide data and some
> kind of REASONABLE thought and analysis as to the
> WHAT behind the WHY.
>
> ALthough I'm not an analyst, I found it useful
> for thought and consideration as I'm sure others
> did as well.
>
> Thanks, NS3T, for the info.
>
> 73
>
> Chuck K3FT
I had a misunderstanding. Jamie pointed out to me that "inactive" didn't
mean that the station wasn't in the contest, but rather that the callsign
hadn't been issued according to recent databases. That makes the whole
thing much more intriguing. I'm now among the curious!
Zack W9SZ
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Fri Apr 19 09:35:19 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
References: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004901c1e7b7$d3e0c8c0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
The crazy nature of practically every open e-mail reflector can be
blamed for some of the annoyance we all feel about the postings
we receive from time to time. We all want to present and
sometimes promote our own views and in so doing we might even
try to suppress those views that run counter to our own. It's the
nature of reflectors.
Reflectors do provide a valuable forum for our ideas, and the
contesting reflector can get particularly ugly sometimes simply
because it is just about the best way to promote new ideas
about "fairness" in contests. NS3T was clearly a little bit wild
with his early posts on this subject, and a number of innocents
were abused in the process. The "witch hunt" comparison is
a good one.
We do need to reexamine the rules of contests from time to time,
and provide new suggestions as to how contesting can be made
"fair" again when we discover new technologies that are legal by
the "word of the law" but are nonetheless "cheating" when an
honest evaluation is made. This year it's the net, next year it
could be something we haven't thought of yet.
We can all agree that the demon that NS3T was attacking
deserves to be vanquished, even though we'd like to see an
approach to this battle that would inflict less collateral damage.
----- Original Message -----
From: <ki9a@aol.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 20:04
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
> #2 & #3,"unique" spots, inactive calls, blah,blah,blah.
>
> Is this really going to make or break contesting?
>
> DO THE RULES STATE YOU NEED TO USE YOUR OWN CALL TO PUT *INTERNET*, yes,
INTERNET spots up??
>
> This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not condone using "fake" calls for
spotting, but, I'm sure there are better things to talk about than this BS.
>
> Again folks, you don't need to correctly ID on the internet spots, errr,
maybe they changed the rules? Maybe I will spot guys during the next contest
using the word MOE or CURLEY instead of my own call, I'm sure NS3T will
drive himself nuts trying to figure if MOE is still active? ;-)
>
> 73-Chuck KI9A
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From dennis.mcalpine at verizon.net Fri Apr 19 12:40:19 2002
From: dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net (Dennis McAlpine)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FW: nice work!
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEGGDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <00b901c1e7b8$83186fa0$e1e453a2@oemcomputer>
Jamie.NS3T,
Add my compliments for your efforts as well. It may not prove anythin but
if there's enough smoke, there might just be a fire there somewhere.
For those who are critical of this "BS" ,as one arrogant writer called it, I
remind you of the furor that N6AA et al created when he started the whole
concept of "uniques, uniques + 1, etc". Yet, as a result of that I would
guess that the accuracy of logging has gone up dramatically and most of us
have become better operators as a result of paying more attention to what we
are doing.
Go back even before then to the times when certain contesters thought it was
smart to run excessive power to make their life easier. We all knew who
they were. For example, how many W6s from CA can run a pile-up of East
Coast stations on 40 cw at 1400 EST with a s9 signal with 100 watts? or
even a KW? Eventually, peer pressure forced most of those guys to get with
the program and run legit power.
The type of analysis you are doing may well cause the same sort of reaction.
The people who are illegally (yes, the rules do prohibit such spots)
spotting themselves under the guise of someone else's call or a made-up one
can no longer hide under the rock. Once they are in the sunlight maybe they
will get the bright idea that it's time to cease and desist.
Keep it up.
73,
Dennis K2SX
----- Original Message -----
From: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@adelphia.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:08 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FW: nice work!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jljarvis [mailto:jljarvis@adelphia.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:08 AM
> To: jdup@jdupree.com
> Subject: nice work!
>
>
> Jamie/NS3T,
>
> Not very many guys have the capability to do the search/analysis
> you did...and of those, few would take the time. Nice bit of work.
>
> What this does is set a standard for the contest committees...if
> they choose to go there....for the kind of analysis which is possible.
>
> The only 'weak' spot in it is identifying calls which are 'active'...
> and I would assume that contest committees would draw up on log
> submissions as well as buckmaster, or other reporting services.
>
> What your data makes abundantly clear, is that there is a relatively
> high level of packet piracy going on. The potential is there for this
> to increase.
>
> This would seem to be difficult ground upon which to formulate
> competitive policy. Want your chief rival DQ'd? Spot 'im!
>
> For that matter...and this is another thread....want your chief rival's
> rate to drop? Spot 'im!
>
> Jim Jarvis, N2EA
>
>
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>From KI9A at aol.com Fri Apr 19 13:57:41 2002
From: KI9A@aol.com (KI9A@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
Message-ID: <12f.1015ddb5.29f1a685@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/19/02 11:53:05 AM Central Daylight Time,
SteveBaron@StarLinX.com writes:
You seem to have missed the whole point.
>
Nope. Not at all.
The point is it would be darn near impossible to stop packet cheats. Period,
especially INTERNET spots.
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>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Fri Apr 19 14:14:05 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Folks,
While this may be a tiresome topic for some, I, for one,
would like to see some fact-based vision applied to the
process of rulemaking. NS3T's data makes a giant step in
that regard.
As Zack/KI9A pointed out, Manny, Moe and Curley can spot legally
via Internet. There are third-party message issues afoot when
those spots are absorbed into RF distribution systems, however.
(Here comes David Popkin!)
I can see a whole landscape of possible policy choices adopted by
contest sponsors, and packet system operators in response to this
situation.
Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
I have what I believe is an informed and reasoned justification
for this recommendation. Short form: It's not a benefit,if
everyone can do it; it may reduce rates. If in doubt, see K1AR's
column in the May CQ, reference N2RM.
Jim/N2EA
>From k7gt at attbi.com Fri Apr 19 18:42:41 2002
From: k7gt@attbi.com (k7gt@attbi.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Any serious contest loggers for LINUX??
Message-ID: <20020419174244.FGSF1143.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
I am a very casual contester currently using TRLog
(which I like very much) on an older DOS PC. Looking
forward a few years, maintaining that old PC and its
ilk is going to be quite problematic. Thus I wonder
if there have been any serious efforts to write up
a contest logger that would function well on a modern
very fast PC running LINUX (as opposed to Windows XXX).
I do mostly CW for both regular operating and contests,
so superb CW keying from the program is a MUST. I am
wondering if LINUX running on, say, a 1.6 GHZ PC might be
free enough from system interrupts to key a rig. Or,
another direction, could it drive a W5XD-style SO2R
control/keyer
box?
I am NOT a LINUX geek but have used it casually at work
along with UNIX on the workstations there.
If this is previously walked turf, I apologize in advance
as I am a newbie here.
73 Allan K7GT
(contest under K6TTX)
Pleasanton CA
>From dhenderson at arrl.org Fri Apr 19 15:58:39 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL Offers Members Expanded Contest Results on the Web
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B7810@KAHLESS>
ARRL Debuts Expanded Online Contest Coverage
The ARRL is proud to announce the introduction of expanded online coverage
of ARRL contests effective April 19, 2002. The URL for expanded ARRL Contest
coverage is http://www.arrl.org/contests/results/ . ARRL staff members and
volunteers have spent many months in planning and developing this expanded
online resource to provide more detailed, in-depth coverage of ARRL events
on the Web. Expanded ARRL Contest coverage online supplements coverage in
QST.
The first contest results presented in the expanded online format are the
2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes, CW. The online presentation features:
? An interactive, searchable database of the line scores. In addition to the
information normally presented in QST, you can see band-by-band QSO
breakdowns, hours operated, check and club affiliation for each entry. The
database is searchable by call sign, entry class, ARRL Section or Division,
and club. You can sort the results by many criteria, including call, score,
QSOs, multipliers, or band QSOs.
? Expanded Soapbox comments. In the initial presentation, Soapbox comments
from all of the electronic Cabrillo entries are included. For future
contests, the Soapbox tools will be available for entrants to add their
comments or photos immediately after the contest.
? An expanded version of the contest write-up that appears in QST. Written
by noted competitor Randy Thompson, K5ZD, the expanded writeup goes into
much more detail than the typical QST presentation. Also included are
station descriptions for the top 10 entrants in each single-op category, a
sidebar story about the log checking process by K5ZD and a sidebar about the
history of the November Sweepstakes by Doug Grant, K1DG.
? Updated contest category records. Ken Adams, K5KA, and Dave Clemons,
K1VUT, have teamed up to provided updated November Sweepstakes records for
each entry class and ARRL Division and Section, as well as overall category
records.
The new features add to existing online resources for contesters, including
complete ARRL contest rules and forms, the ARRL Contest Calendar, and the
Contest Corral listing of contests throughout the year. ARRL Members may
also subscribe to the ARRL Contest Rate Sheet, a biweekly e-mail newsletter
that debuted in March 2002.
Access to the extended coverage is available to ARRL members. To visit the
site, you need to be logged on to the ARRL website with your user name and
password. If you have not registered, you may do so online at
www.arrl.org/members. As has been our practice for several years, non-ARRL
members will continue to be able to view a PDF file of the QST results
article from the main ARRL Contest Branch Web page at www.arrl.org/contests
approximately 30 days after the issue of QST in which it appears has been
published.
ARRL Contests Online is considered a "work in progress." The online
presentation will be flexible, allowing us to improve the site as it
develops. As new contest results become available, they will be added to the
site. As you explore the site, we welcome your feedback. You may contact
contests@arrl.org with your comments or suggestions. You may also contact us
by phone at 860-594-0232.
>From geoiii at kkn.net Fri Apr 19 13:38:48 2002
From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III - K5TR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>; from
jljarvis on Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <20020419123848.C8470@loja.kkn.net>
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400, jljarvis wrote:
>
> Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
>
Yes.
In fact I will go a step further and recommend that we
also modify the contest logging programs to do a
self spot anytime you call CQ.
(This idea was thought up by N5KO about 7 months ago.)
--
George Fremin III - K5TR
geoiii@kkn.net
http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>From w7zr at citlink.net Fri Apr 19 13:47:16 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] BIG PRICE REDUCTION!!
Message-ID: <000901c1e7db$2b61d350$35d1fea9@N1>
I have just done a major price reduction on my QTH in Mexico. Great DX and
Contest location. Take a look at www.w7zr.com
73
Dick W7ZR XE2DV
Price Reduced!!
Vacation or Retire Here
It's Paradise on the Beach
www.w7zr.com
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Fri Apr 19 14:45:17 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
<20020419123848.C8470@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <001e01c1e7e3$27fc6790$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
This is a neat idea if we are trying to push the guys still using
pencils out of contesting. That would probably include
newcomers to contesting, as well as N6PN.
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Fremin III - K5TR" <geoiii@kkn.net>
To: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 12:38
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400, jljarvis wrote:
> >
> > Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> > Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
> >
>
> Yes.
>
> In fact I will go a step further and recommend that we
> also modify the contest logging programs to do a
> self spot anytime you call CQ.
>
> (This idea was thought up by N5KO about 7 months ago.)
>
> --
> George Fremin III - K5TR
> geoiii@kkn.net
> http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Fri Apr 19 17:57:24 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL Offers Members Expanded Contest Results on the Web
Message-ID: <8c.17170751.29f1deb4@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/19/2002 7:26:39 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
dhenderson@arrl.org writes:
> ARRL Debuts Expanded Online Contest Coverage
>
Dan, all I can say is WOW. Great work, and tnx.
73, George
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From k2qmf at juno.com Fri Apr 19 18:51:51 2002
From: k2qmf@juno.com (k2qmf@juno.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Message-ID: <20020419.175204.-861739.0.K2QMF@juno.com>
This is a great idea!!
This would stop all this foolishness and maybe make contesting
a little more "FUN". After all isn't that what ham radio is all
about????
73, Ted K2QMF. See ya at Dayton for some fun...
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 12:38:48 -0700 George Fremin III - K5TR
<geoiii@kkn.net> writes:
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400, jljarvis wrote:
> >
> > Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> > Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
>
> >
>
> Yes.
>
> In fact I will go a step further and recommend that we
> also modify the contest logging programs to do a
> self spot anytime you call CQ.
>
> (This idea was thought up by N5KO about 7 months ago.)
>
> --
> George Fremin III - K5TR
> geoiii@kkn.net
> http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
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>From kk4ta at STRATO.NET Fri Apr 19 19:16:34 2002
From: kk4ta@STRATO.NET (Tom and Adela)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Stepp-IR 3 element Beam
In-Reply-To: <026c01c1e736$25a97f80$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <BIEGKCDKMCJPDIEONEMJCEGECCAA.kk4ta@strato.net>
Hello All,
Is anyone out there using the Stepp-IR beam, or have you seen any reviews
other than the ones in e-ham which I have read.
I am soooooo close to ordering one, but am still somewhat hesitant. Any
opinions from anyone?
Their site is http://www.fluidmotion.ws/index.htm
Tom
KK4TA
>From K7LXC at aol.com Fri Apr 19 21:06:08 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Stepp-IR 3 element Beam
Message-ID: <15f.c74e93c.29f20af0@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/19/02 3:25:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kk4ta@STRATO.NET
writes:
> Is anyone out there using the Stepp-IR beam, or have you seen any reviews
> other than the ones in e-ham which I have read.
>
> I am soooooo close to ordering one, but am still somewhat hesitant. Any
> opinions from anyone?
Check out the TowerTalk archives at www.contesting.com. Go to the List
Search and put in <towertalk stepp>.
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
TOWER TECH
>From ha5pp at yahoo.com Fri Apr 19 22:29:05 2002
From: ha5pp@yahoo.com (Zoltan Szoke)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
In-Reply-To: <001e01c1e7e3$27fc6790$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Message-ID: <20020420042905.25369.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi,
Yes. All contesters (callsign) will be on culsters.
The contest program will make a callsign-map per band.
We can see the call-map on monitor. We will no need
any hunting (mults, etc.). The logging program will
know what we needed. Perhaps a "help-program" will be
able to make some important mults for us WITHOUT US.
And finally we will no need to fight 40-48 hours non
stop, it will be enough to check our PC by hours. Or
it will be enough to push a BIG ENTER at the start of
the contest...(??) This is the future of contesting.
73
Zoli
HA5PP
--- "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com> wrote:
> This is a neat idea if we are trying to push the
> guys still using
> pencils out of contesting. That would probably
> include
> newcomers to contesting, as well as N6PN.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Fremin III - K5TR" <geoiii@kkn.net>
> To: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@adelphia.net>
> Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 12:38
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting
> 'witch-hunt'
>
>
> > On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400, jljarvis
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Want to stop packet piracy and perceived
> cheating?
> > > Make self-spotting legal, for any station
> allowed to use packet.
> > >
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > In fact I will go a step further and recommend
> that we
> > also modify the contest logging programs to do a
> > self spot anytime you call CQ.
> >
> > (This idea was thought up by N5KO about 7 months
> ago.)
> >
> > --
> > George Fremin III - K5TR
> > geoiii@kkn.net
> > http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
> >
> >
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> >
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Sat Apr 20 09:11:53 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New ARRL Web Coverage of Contests
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020420074959.025f9400@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
The new approach to covering contests is excellent -- compliments to N1ND,
K5ZD and all others involved in the project. I particularly enjoyed the
ability to sort and display line scores by various parameters, and the
presentation of band-by-band breakouts for everyone. The equipment page on
stations in the top ten boxes was also a welcome addition. Finally, I
think the new transparency as to which stations counted toward which club
score is a welcome addition.
There are just two things I would like to see added. The major one would
be on-line access to my own set of the reports described by K5ZD in his
sidebar "What Price Accuracy." I know that in the past these have been
available by e-mail request to N1ND, but frankly I hesitate to make the
request when I know how few and how busy folks in the Contest Branch
are. CQWW has made this information available, and since N6TR wrote the
software for both I'd hope that most of the work has already been done.
The minor request would be to be able to sort line scores by region as well
as Division and Section.
A great start!
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From maposte at hotmail.com Sat Apr 20 13:45:57 2002
From: maposte@hotmail.com (Fred NA2U)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [3830] ARRL Offers Members Expanded Contest Results
on the Web
Message-ID: <F87zadTMVwVn20lbhsK0000441a@hotmail.com>
Dan, what a GREAT source of contest results! But, PLEASE don't stop
publishing individual contest results in QST.
73,
Fred/NA2U
CWMAN...I'D RATHER WORK CW!!!
"Je mange donc je suis."
>From: "Henderson, Dan N1ND" <dhenderson@arrl.org>
>To: "'3830@contesting.com'" <3830@contesting.com>, "'cq-contest'"
><cq-contest@contesting.com>, "'VHF List'" <vhf@w6yx.Stanford.EDU>,
>"'VHF Contesting.com'" <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
>Subject: [3830] ARRL Offers Members Expanded Contest Results on the Web
>
>
>ARRL Debuts Expanded Online Contest Coverage
>
>The ARRL is proud to announce the introduction of expanded online coverage
>of ARRL contests effective April 19, 2002. The URL for expanded ARRL
>Contest
>coverage is http://www.arrl.org/contests/results/ . ARRL staff members and
>volunteers have spent many months in planning and developing this expanded
>online resource to provide more detailed, in-depth coverage of ARRL events
>on the Web. Expanded ARRL Contest coverage online supplements coverage in
>QST.
>
>The first contest results presented in the expanded online format are the
>2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes, CW. The online presentation features:
>
>Ø An interactive, searchable database of the line scores. In addition to
>the
>information normally presented in QST, you can see band-by-band QSO
>breakdowns, hours operated, check and club affiliation for each entry. The
>database is searchable by call sign, entry class, ARRL Section or Division,
>and club. You can sort the results by many criteria, including call, score,
>QSOs, multipliers, or band QSOs.
>
>Ø Expanded Soapbox comments. In the initial presentation, Soapbox comments
>from all of the electronic Cabrillo entries are included. For future
>contests, the Soapbox tools will be available for entrants to add their
>comments or photos immediately after the contest.
>
>Ø An expanded version of the contest write-up that appears in QST. Written
>by noted competitor Randy Thompson, K5ZD, the expanded writeup goes into
>much more detail than the typical QST presentation. Also included are
>station descriptions for the top 10 entrants in each single-op category, a
>sidebar story about the log checking process by K5ZD and a sidebar about
>the
>history of the November Sweepstakes by Doug Grant, K1DG.
>
>Ø Updated contest category records. Ken Adams, K5KA, and Dave Clemons,
>K1VUT, have teamed up to provided updated November Sweepstakes records for
>each entry class and ARRL Division and Section, as well as overall category
>records.
>
>The new features add to existing online resources for contesters, including
>complete ARRL contest rules and forms, the ARRL Contest Calendar, and the
>Contest Corral listing of contests throughout the year. ARRL Members may
>also subscribe to the ARRL Contest Rate Sheet, a biweekly e-mail newsletter
>that debuted in March 2002.
>
>Access to the extended coverage is available to ARRL members. To visit the
>site, you need to be logged on to the ARRL website with your user name and
>password. If you have not registered, you may do so online at
>www.arrl.org/members. As has been our practice for several years, non-ARRL
>members will continue to be able to view a PDF file of the QST results
>article from the main ARRL Contest Branch Web page at www.arrl.org/contests
>approximately 30 days after the issue of QST in which it appears has been
>published.
>
>ARRL Contests Online is considered a "work in progress." The online
>presentation will be flexible, allowing us to improve the site as it
>develops. As new contest results become available, they will be added to
>the
>site. As you explore the site, we welcome your feedback. You may contact
>contests@arrl.org with your comments or suggestions. You may also contact
>us
>by phone at 860-594-0232.
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Sat Apr 20 05:53:59 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
Message-ID: <000901c1e86f$8972caa0$6941fa43@computer>
How can I get one for SSCW and find the UBN for CQ and ARRL??
Not a computer geek/guru
QUACK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 15:19
Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
>
> When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of my CQWW logs,
> I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN information.
>
>
> I may have gotten that email and subsequent information, but
> if I did, I no longer have it.
>
> How can I get it (again)?
>
> Eric W3DQ
> Washington DC
>
>
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Sat Apr 20 05:47:56 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] It's All in the Mind, You Know
Message-ID: <000801c1e86f$880aaf20$6941fa43@computer>
QUACKS
Bob your taking all these treads TOO Serious, get a grip and Hang on,
Somone will now make a tread of your complaint.
73 TU Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob, N5RP" <N5RP@pdq.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 16:01
Subject: [CQ-Contest] It's All in the Mind, You Know
> Packet thread has been interesting to say the least.
>
> Still, Ham Radio is just a hobby, and hobbies are to enjoy.
>
> Self spotting.
> Clandestine spotting.
> Buddy repeat spotting.
> QSO begging spotting.
> QLF.
> QRQ.
> QRS.
> F1, F2, F3, F4 - Can't copy CW.
> F1, F2, F3, F4 - Can't send CW.
> Frequency police.
> Scoldings for not using split.
> Deliberate QRM.
> Net ownership of frequencies.
> Contesters destroying telephone quality SSB chit chat of rag chewers.
> Hemorrhoid, aches and pains, and medication QSO content.
> Political QSO's.
> High Power.
> Low Power.
> Big antennae.
> No antennae.
> Stations with maintenance crews.
> Stations hiding in a closet.
> TVI.
> BCI.
> RFI.
> Front Row Monkeys.
> Back Row Monkeys.
> Audio adjustment # 2437.
>
> Funny how some things bug me, and some things make me laugh.
> Guess I better to just learn to laugh more - at more,
> and get bugged less - at less.
> Maybe then, I'm gonna find I enjoy my hobby every bit as much as I seem to
> keep telling myself.
>
> Who else wants to join me in trying to enjoy the hobby enough to get past
> most of the above list?
>
> I really do like to laugh.
> Maybe ham radio and laughter would make for a great day on a repeated
basis.
> Bob Perring
> ...........................................
> Amateur Radio Station N5RP
> mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
> N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
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>From K4tmc at aol.com Sat Apr 20 11:31:32 2002
From: K4tmc@aol.com (K4tmc@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] May QST arrives
Message-ID: <b2.a470a1c.29f2d5c4@aol.com>
A stop by the PO box this morning resulted in the latest issues of QST.
Front cover photo of the W8ZR EZ-Tuner; with this issue containing Part 2 of
the related article.
Contest related items:
The EZ-Tuner, Part 2
A DXpedition to Niger (during the ARRL DX SSB Contest)
A Novice Contester Gets His
DXing with Polar Bears (and 10 Meter contesting)
The Evolution of the World Radiosport Team Championships
Product Review - ICOM IC-746PRO transceiver
Results - 2001 ARRL International EME Competition
Rules - ARRL Field Day 2002 and June VHF QSO Party
Other interesting items:
It Seems To Us (editorial) Ever Upward (the quest for higher and higher
frequencies)
The St. Loius Switcher (13.8 V at 20 A from a PC power supply)
A Microphone Adapter for the IC-706
A 6-Meter Quad-Turnstile
One Stealthy Delta (an HF Delta Loop)
Somewhere There's a Good Home for a Boat Anchor
What Can You Do with a Dip Meter?
Hints & Kinks - Coiling wire or rope without kinks; FT1000 for digital mode
USB/LSB
Happenings - ARRL Asks FCC to Eliminate, "Refarm" Novice CW Bands
How's DX? - More on the Pileups and Behavior
The World Above 50 MHz - The Problem with DX Records
Old Radio - Tube Lore (the 813)
Ads:
Inside-cover, full-page, bright orange ad for the Florida QSO Party (OK, this
is not the April issue)
Am-Com and High Sierra have a combined full-page ad for the Am-Com Antenna
Controller and the HS-1500MKII Antenna.
SGC has full-page ad for their new product, the STEALTH Kit (Smart Tuning
Emergency Antenna Loop Tactical Hf), which is basically an SG-237 tuner, 80
ft of wire, and some nylon rope.
Radio Shack has a cute ad for their new dual band HT. It is in one of those
white foam trays that you buy meat in at the local supermarket,
shrink-wrapped, and with a label stating "our ham is 100% FCC choice".
The ARRL has a new book - Simple and Fun Antennas for Hams.
Alpha Power has ad with picture of their new ALPHA 6 six-meter 1500W
amplifier.
Yaesu's inside-backcover-page ad shows their new "ultra-rugged submersible
tri-band magnesium handie" labeled Submersible VX-7R.
How long before we will have an "ultra-rugged submersible magnesium
FT1000MP-MKV Field Plus"? Aren't island Dxpeditioners demanding something
like this? And with its own built-in water-activated EPIRB!
73 & High Rates,
Henry Pollock - K4TMC
Raleigh, NC
Oops, don't forget the OJ QSO Party! Oops again; it's the Florida QSO Party!
OK JIm...go...
>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Sat Apr 20 08:42:12 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spotting
In-Reply-To: <20020420042905.25369.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020420144212.19523.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com>
Iassume the message about everyone self spotting
and allowing all to do this was in jest. I will
take it as such.
To cut back on the 'bogus spotting' perhaps a
good tack to take would be for the Internet
accessible spotting networks (and I guess the
other systems as well) to implement callsign
checks using current callsign resource checkers.
(QRZ/BUCKMASTER, registration by individual to
verify they arewho they say they are). I'm not a
progrmamerso I'll not even attempt to proffer a
suggestionon the 'how'. I leave that to the
pro's.
When you log in it checks your call against a
master list. If good...you get
through.Thisdoesn't stop the spoofer, but if it
is a problem, then there are tracing items which
can find out the where. It's not easy..but if we
start NOW.. we canimplement things and improve
them. Again, I'm not saying 'HOW' just offering
food for thought.
Spotting is here to stay. It's not going away and
itis a useful tool having value, indeed. Best we
can do with the genie that is well and good out
of the bottle is figure out a wayto manage and
manipulate it.
Just one small suggestion and idea.
best 73
CU in the Pileups!
Chuck K3FT
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>From n2mg at contesting.com Sat Apr 20 13:40:59 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
Message-ID:
<20020420124100.28192.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
For ARRL contests, email N1ND@arrl.org and request the
specific contest(s).
For CQWW, you were (should have been) sent instructions
in an email with the URL and an access number.
73 Mike N2MG
On Sat, 20 April 2002, "Rex Maner" wrote
>
> How can I get one for SSCW and find the UBN for CQ
and ARRL??
> Not a computer geek/guru
> QUACK
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 15:19
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN
Information
>
>
> >
> > When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of
my CQWW logs,
> > I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN
information.
> >
> >
> > I may have gotten that email and subsequent
information, but
> > if I did, I no longer have it.
> >
> > How can I get it (again)?
> >
> > Eric W3DQ
> > Washington DC
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Apr 20 19:08:16 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging
Message-ID: <025d01c1e8b9$4882a5c0$03010a0a@office1>
I've just been asked by my club's Field Day chairman to serve on the
computer/logging committee. First order of business is to decide on a
logging program for this year.
Two complications:
1) we have a blind amateur in the club, so a lot of Windows oriented
packages won't work because of problems with his text-to-voice hardware &
software
2) they would like to network the two or three operating positions
together.
So far, WriteLog has been suggested. Personally, I like CT but I know
networking it can be cranky. And we are going to talk to Tom N3EQF about
Log-EQF & Win-EQF in the next few days, when we can catch up to him
(advantage of him being a local!)
Any suggestions?
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
"There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
probably."
--John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 20 23:34:56 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #1
References: <009301c1e746$70c1f190$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Message-ID: <3CC1DF00.658759FD@harborside.com>
Jamie Dupree wrote:
>
> Contesters:
>
> This post begins a review of spots from the 2002 WPX SSB contest.
I was wondering, what happens if a QRP station uses packet
spotting. Does that automatically take him (or her) out of the
QRP category and put them in LP assisted? I don't think there is
such a thing as QRP assisted is there? 73
Tom W7WHY
>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 20 23:41:34 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <3CC1E08E.6B0E2AD5@harborside.com>
jljarvis wrote:
> Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
Or just forget about packet and do it without spotting at all.
No? Why not.
Tom W7WHY
>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 20 23:51:19 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
References: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204190819300.9820-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <3CC1E2D7.F8704B63@harborside.com>
Zack Widup wrote:
> And what constitutes an "inactive station"?
I would think the Buckmaster callsign lookup is a good spot to
start (where he got lots of his data). If there is no such
callsign issued, I'd be pretty sure it's "inactive."
Tom W7WHY
>From ve6jy at freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Sun Apr 21 00:35:34 2002
From: ve6jy@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (VE6JY Don Moman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging
References: <025d01c1e8b9$4882a5c0$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <003501c1e8bb$b192c980$ddcea1c6@ve6jy>
TRlog would be (and is) my choice. It's especially suited to field day since
it can run on a wide range of older machines and laptops and is very easy
to network and interface to the radios (be sure you have enough serial
ports - 2 per machine is handy. The intuitive use of the enter and
escape keys make for easy learning and logging for a new user. All files are
plain ascii txt so if you do have a problem with power or hd problems, it's
a lot easier to "fix" or recover a corrupted text file than a bin type. TR
is very bulletproof if you do have a power crash (who forgot to fuel the
genny?) which is another plus. Support from the author, N6TR and the TRlog
reflector is tops.
As a bonus, the free sample version supports Field day.
http://www.qth.com/tr/free.html
73 Don
VE6JY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 23:08
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging
> I've just been asked by my club's Field Day chairman to serve on the
> computer/logging committee. First order of business is to decide on a
> logging program for this year.
>
> Two complications:
>
> 1) we have a blind amateur in the club, so a lot of Windows oriented
> packages won't work because of problems with his text-to-voice hardware &
> software
>
> 2) they would like to network the two or three operating positions
> together.
>
> So far, WriteLog has been suggested. Personally, I like CT but I know
> networking it can be cranky. And we are going to talk to Tom N3EQF about
> Log-EQF & Win-EQF in the next few days, when we can catch up to him
> (advantage of him being a local!)
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "There's No Crying in Baseball!"
> -- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
>
> "There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
> probably."
> --John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
>
>
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>From k2qmf at juno.com Sat Apr 20 21:38:01 2002
From: k2qmf@juno.com (k2qmf@juno.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Message-ID: <20020420.204438.-88046435.0.K2QMF@juno.com>
Because it's more "FUN" to use packet for some of us...
K2QMF
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 22:41:34 +0100 Tom Osborne <w7why@harborside.com>
writes:
>
>
> jljarvis wrote:
>
> > Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> > Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
>
>
> Or just forget about packet and do it without spotting at all.
> No? Why not.
> Tom W7WHY
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>From wd3q at erols.com Sat Apr 20 23:19:35 2002
From: wd3q@erols.com (Eric Rosenberg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020420221834.009fb640@pop3.norton.antivirus>
This worked for me.
Thanks Steve for the suggestion, and Larry (N6TW) for the quick
response!
Eric W3DQ
Washington, DC
>Reply-To: "Steve Baron - KB3MM" <SteveBaron@StarLinX.com>
>From: "Steve Baron - KB3MM" <SteveBaron@StarLinX.com>
>To: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700
>
>Go to www.cqww.com and send an e-mail to N6TW (address on that page).
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
>To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 14:19
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
>
>
> >
> > When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of my CQWW logs,
> > I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN information.
> >
> > I may have gotten that email and subsequent information, but
> > if I did, I no longer have it.
> >
> > How can I get it (again)?
> >
> > Eric W3DQ
> > Washington DC
> >
> >
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>From k2kw at prodigy.net Sun Apr 21 01:02:22 2002
From: k2kw@prodigy.net (KEN SILVERMAN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Visalia Contest Dinner - It's not too late!
Message-ID: <002301c1e902$7e1694a0$97d3fea9@a>
We still have seats available for the Contest Dinner at Visalia! It's not
too late to join the fun. Dr. Beldar's been doing some last minute consumer
research, and his presentation on new contesting products of the future
should not be missed!
Please get your reservations into Tom, K5RC (below) ASAP. All dinner
reservations need to be done by Tuesday.
73, Kenny K2KW
----------------------
4th Annual International DX Convention Contest Dinner
Evening Events: Dinner, short contesting program, guest speaker, and door
prizes. Guest speaker: Dr Beldar - "Dr Beldar's Contest Emporium"
Products you are not likely to see at HRO!
Doors and cash bar open at 7:00 p.m. Dinner is served at 8:00 p.m. (Note:
This dinner is not part of the convention registration fee, and is a
separate function open to all who wish to join the fun.)
The dinner will be held in the Oak and Maple rooms at the Holiday Inn
Visalia, 9000 West Airport Drive, Visalia, CA
Many contesters from around the world have already made their reservations.
You don't want to miss this opportunity to meet and hang out with top
contesters and DXers!
Dinner Details:
Menu: Prime Rib of Beef -- $29.00 or Chicken Princess -- $23.00
Meals include: salad, entree, baked potato, green beans almondine, bread,
tea/coffee, chocolate mousse dessert and all taxes and gratuity. Chicken
Princess is a grilled chicken breast topped with asparagus, shrimp, and a
cream-wine sauce. Cash bar will remain open during dinner.
Tables are set in rounds of 10, no reserved seating.
Tickets: Deadline for ticket orders is Tuesday, April 23, 2002. Tickets are
not being sold at the door. Tickets will not be mailed, but will be held at
the door and available at 6pm, Friday, April 26, 2002.
You can only order tickets by calling, faxing, e-mailing or snail-mail to:
Tom Taormina, K5RC
Productivity Resources
PO Box 1126
Virginia City NV 89440
775-847-7929
775-847-7930 (FAX)
k5rc@aol.com
Payment Methods: Visa/MC/Amex (include expiration date, and name as it
appears on the card), checks, money order, or cash - sorry, no CODs. Credit
card billings will show up as "Productivity Resources".
Refund Policy: Dinner orders must be guaranteed with the hotel, so we
cannot offer refunds on or after Wednesday, April 24, 2002. You are free to
resell your dinner if you cannot make the event.
>From k1ir at designet.com Sun Apr 21 09:31:43 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] (no subject)
Message-ID: <1lorwrtb0j6ozq1.210420020831@designet-jsi>
Wayne,
A problem that occurs at only 200W will almost certainly be in the driven
element. You may have to take it down and find the loose hardware, bad
connection or clean up one of the loading coils, but you don't have to buy a
new antenna!
73,
Jim K1IR
[Towertalk] Hy=Gain 402BA-S
Wayne F. King wfking@worldnet.att.net
Sun, 21 Apr 2002 05:49:32 -0400
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HI Folks,
I have a HY-GAIN 402BA-S 40 meter 2 el beam. It works fine on RX and 100
watts TX. However it does not like high power anymore. Instant SWR
infinity with the PA on. Even at 200 watts it appears to arch over. As
long as I run less then 150 watts it's fine.
It's mounted at 110' and 15' above a Mosley Pro-57A. It's feed with 1/2"
heliax and a RG-214U jumper to a WX0B 1.1 balun. I checked the feedline
to the balun with a 50 ohm load and it's fine. The balun checked out
fine. In fact I substituted a coax balun and still the same problem.
I thought I would run this by you folks before I take it down. Hopefully
someone has a handle on this and maybe a fix other then buying a new
antenna.
Thanks in advance.
Wayne N2WK
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Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sun Apr 21 13:48:50 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: so2r off the shelf?
In-Reply-To: <003901c1e3c5$e0628520$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <000501c1e932$e34ff7f0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Again I thank everyone who replied to the original question I posed
about so2r equipment that I could get off the shelf. I have finally
filtered and read the replies and summarized them on my web site at
http://www.k1ttt.net/technote/tworadio.html. In this summary I have
left out replies that said things like: 'go to this website for
everything', or 'I know xxx uses this stuff', or 'switch to writelog and
use their unique stuff', or 'trlog is better', or 'I have a great
homebrew setup', or 'these look good on the web site, but I have never
used them'. I am also leaving out the ones that went on about how to
setup filters and stubs, as I stated I am presently set up for m/m
operation so I know about filtering, what I am looking for is how to
switch everything the best way for so2r. If you want to review the
whole thread it is available in the archives of course.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yccc-admin@yccc.org [mailto:yccc-admin@yccc.org] On Behalf Of
David
> Robbins
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 15:06
> To: YCCC
> Subject: [YCCC] so2r off the shelf?
>
>
> I hate to reinvent the wheel, don't have a lot of time to homebrew or
> put together kits, and don't know much about operating so2r besides
what
> I have seen from a few guest operators. But I am ready to buy the
stuff
> needed to make a better so2r setup option on my m/m station. I am
> looking to buy as much as possible, preferably including cables
already
> made up.
>
> The equipment would be:
> 2x ft-1000mp
> heil proset headset
> ct or na logging software
> dvp board for voice keying
> aea morsemachine or other external keyer(s)
> each band has its own coax coming in to the table
>
> What I am looking for are suggestions for 2 or 3 things:
> 1. a headset/keyer/mic/dvp switch with cables
> 2. a 6 antenna to 2 radio antenna switch with band decoder for each
> radio and control cables.
> 3. a 6 band 2 radio bandpass filter switch for between the radios and
> amps, or possibly two separate switched bandpass filters with cables
and
> decoder.
>
> Could one decoder run both the antenna switch and bandpass filter
> switch?
>
> What is available off the shelf to do this?
>
> What are the pro's and con's of different models that are available,
if
> there are choices?
>
> Is it better to run 1 computer or 2?? Why??
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> YCCC Reflector
> yccc@yccc.org
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/yccc
>From dhenderson at arrl.org Sun Apr 21 10:28:48 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Log Checking Reports for ARRL SS
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B781B@KAHLESS>
Hey Guys:
Issuing the Log Checking Reports (since they are not UBNs ala CQ we are
referring to them as LCRs) is not an automated process. We will be
discussing the best way to make them available and will make an announcement
about it in the next few days. Please hold your requests for them - since
it may entail a separate email address. Thanks for yor patience and
understanding.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From k0rc at pclink.com Mon Apr 22 09:54:53 2002
From: k0rc@pclink.com (k0rc)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
References: <190402109.26373@webbox.com>
Message-ID: <10b601c1ea05$47e09080$25010bce@elite233>
Eric,
Bob, K3EST, will send you your password in a private email if you ask him.
Maybe the website will include a "password engine" in the future to
eliminate this administrative task. I would guess you and I are not the
only ones requesting a "fill" on their password.
73 de Bob - K0RC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:19 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
>
> When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of my CQWW logs,
> I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN information.
>
>
> I may have gotten that email and subsequent information, but
> if I did, I no longer have it.
>
> How can I get it (again)?
>
> Eric W3DQ
> Washington DC
>
>
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>From phmonnard at bluewin.ch Sun Apr 21 15:26:32 2002
From: phmonnard@bluewin.ch (Philippe Monnard)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Helvetia 26 contest
Message-ID: <3CC2AFF8.6D93F63E@bluewin.ch>
Hello
Dont forget next week end 27 and 28 april 2002
The Helvetia 2002 contest
Start on 27 april 2002 at 1300 UTC until 28 april 2002 at 1300 UTC
ON 1.8 (cw only) - 3.5 - 7 - 14 - 21 - 28 MHz
CW/SSB
Contact with swiss station 3 points
Multi 1 by canton per band
Log must be sent until the 20 of may 2002
to : Hermann Stein HB9CRV
Br?elmatten 13
4410 Liestal
Switzerland
or by e-mail in ASCII format + summary sheet to: contest@uska.ch
You can find the complete rules http://www.uska.ch
see you in the contest
73's qro
Phil - HB9ARF
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sun Apr 21 11:37:31 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Reply Summary (to date)
Message-ID: <040101c1e942$348f3b80$03010a0a@office1>
Thanks to all who've replied to me on the FD Logging software question I
posed yesterday.
Examining the replies has been interesting.
In terms of raw numbers, the overwhelming number of responses have been in
favor of TRLog. Interestingly enough, most of these responses have come
from the TRLog reflector, NOT the CQ-Contest reflector... since one of the
replies to me was cross-posted.
Sticking solely to reponses from CQ-Contest, TRLog still had the most
favorable responses, with NA and CT both tied for a close second. But most
of the CT comments have not been ringing endorsements -- most have basically
told me that since I already own CT, might as well stick with it rather than
learn a new package. Also interesting comments there.
I'm still interested in further comments from anyone familiar with these
three packages. Meantime I'm going to have to hunt up copies of TRLog & NA
for comparison... a thought that still makes me shudder (several years ago,
I once asked a few questions about one of these on the Pa QSO Party
reflector and unexpectedly received a phone call from the distributor who
had been told I was ready to buy it!)
A few additional comments:
Several people have told me that networking the laptops for FD isn't worth
the aggravation. Actually, I agree, but I was asked to check into it. (
Don't shoot the messenger! )
Several others have had... interesting reactions to my comment regarding our
blind member. I've been called Politcally Correct ( please! ) for even
mentioning it; and prejuduced for not referring to him as "visually
impaired" instead of "blind." Must be doing something right if I'm ticking
off both sides of THAT nonsense. In any event, while I appreciate the
well-meant comments on alternatives to sticking to text-based software so
that Shawn's text-to-voice stuff would work... well, we don't work that way
here, sorry. He's a member of our club, he's a great operator, and a
reasonable request like this is not a burden, merely a small problem to be
solved. Sorry a few don't look at it that way, but that's life.
Besides, the alternative is that he'll cook again this year. (Think I'm
kidding? Go to http://doit.pgh.net/~wolfie/washrag.htm, pull up the July
2001 issue, and look at Page 7) Although a cross-state wedding kept me from
the club FD op last year, I hear that his burgers were first-rate...
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Sun Apr 21 14:05:31 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEILDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
W1MOO, 5A VT, will change from TR to Writelog this year.
6 node ethernet network....5 stations and a site-executive laptop.
Last year, TR's quirky use of memory cost us 50Q's and two key
hours of downtime on one cw station, when the bands were hot.
Ethernet vs. rs232c should improve rfi issues across the site.
Ease of setup of networked operation in Writelog will save us
setup and debug time.
And we've got a TR expert in our midst; although he gets to
sleep and go to church! So we're switching programs despite
his feelings for TR.
Last year's disaster happened during the sleep/church period,
of course. Thank you, Father Murphy! :)
Jim/N2EA
Message: 4
From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Reply Summary (to date)
Thanks to all who've replied to me on the FD Logging software question I
posed yesterday.
Jim Jarvis
Keithley Instruments
Essex Vermont
802 872 5830 voice
802 872 5831 fax
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Sun Apr 21 17:44:37 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ronald Rossi)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging
References: <025d01c1e8b9$4882a5c0$03010a0a@office1>
<003501c1e8bb$b192c980$ddcea1c6@ve6jy>
Message-ID: <3CC324B5.87DDC2AB@btv.ibm.com>
Even better yet is the free version will very likely be updated to the most
recent in time for FD!
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron (kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
VE6JY Don Moman wrote:
>
> TRlog would be (and is) my choice. It's especially suited to field day since
> it can run on a wide range of older machines and laptops and is very easy
> to network and interface to the radios (be sure you have enough serial
> ports - 2 per machine is handy. The intuitive use of the enter and
> escape keys make for easy learning and logging for a new user. All files are
> plain ascii txt so if you do have a problem with power or hd problems, it's
> a lot easier to "fix" or recover a corrupted text file than a bin type. TR
> is very bulletproof if you do have a power crash (who forgot to fuel the
> genny?) which is another plus. Support from the author, N6TR and the TRlog
> reflector is tops.
>
> As a bonus, the free sample version supports Field day.
> http://www.qth.com/tr/free.html
>
> 73 Don
> VE6JY
>From py2ny at arrl.net Sun Apr 21 19:02:42 2002
From: py2ny@arrl.net (PY2NY - Vitor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio 2002
Message-ID: <013801c1e978$13f2a160$6d14d2c8@asbyte.com.br>
Hello my friends - anybody can send me
in private, any information and home page
for Ham Radio 2002 in Germany? Including
some cities to visit around, and restaurants
or places to visit... Good hotels, anything
will be nice because my wife and me will
try to go there, this year...
Many thanks and see all of you in contest...
PY2NY - Vitor Luis Aidar dos Santos
Caixa Postal 204
Jaboticabal, SP - Brasil - 14870-970
Phone: (16) 97854218
E-mail: py2ny@arrl.net
>From mi2az05 at netscape.net Sun Apr 21 18:24:00 2002
From: mi2az05@netscape.net (mi2az05@netscape.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
Message-ID: <6FADC906.22E96578.001FB510@netscape.net>
I have been reading the posts on FD software and the networking issue. Am I
missing something, why are the computers being networked? No need for it at FD
is there? All you submit is a dupesheet. Just wondering why the importance of
networking at FD?
Barry
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>From k5zd at charter.net Sun Apr 21 23:23:55 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
In-Reply-To: <6FADC906.22E96578.001FB510@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDMEDGDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
It gives you the flexibility to use any station on any band. By having all
the computers networked, they all have the current log of stations worked
and won't have to waste time chasing dupes.
For operations where stations are dedicated to bands or modes, it is
probably better to avoid the hassle/issues of networking. Keep it simple!
K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of
> mi2az05@netscape.net
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 21:24 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
>
>
> I have been reading the posts on FD software and the networking
> issue. Am I missing something, why are the computers being
> networked? No need for it at FD is there? All you submit is a
> dupesheet. Just wondering why the importance of networking at FD?
>
> Barry
>
>
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sun Apr 21 20:26:34 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Software, Take 2
Message-ID: <076c01c1e98c$1bcd09c0$03010a0a@office1>
Murphy's Law has struck.
Talked with our blind amateur, about logging software today. Found out, to
my embarresment, that somewhere along the way, his saying that his software
could NOT handle a DOS logging program got changed around to where I was
told that his software could ONLY handle DOS. *sigh* Sorry about that.
Part of that came about because his stuff won't work with all Windows apps
either (this came up 2 years ago at the club Pa QSO Party operation, when we
found out his stuff wouldn't work with KA3JWE's logging program for the
'test.)
So... turns out I'm looking for a Windows-based logging program to use for
Field Day. New candidates include Win-EQF and N1MM's package. Any other
suggestions?
...yes, we're still thinking about Networking, too. Found out that last
year, someone went home for the night with their rig & laptop, and took the
20 Phone log with them. So the next op started working a bunch of dupes.
So it goes...
73, ron wn3vaw
"There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
probably."
--John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
>From TJCoker at lasd.org Sun Apr 21 17:58:37 2002
From: TJCoker@lasd.org (Coker, Timothy J)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Yaesu FT-1000D or Ft-1000 Mk V/Field for contesting?
Message-ID: <D418C6B4A038D611BF1900508B2CC5D91EBA89@1-CRDF-MAIL>
Hello, I am in the market for an upgraded radio for contest/dxing purposes.
I currently own a Kenwood TS-850SAT and would like to purchase a new or used
top of the line Yaesu to replace this radio with.
I have the choice of selecting between the following radios:
FT-1000D at a used price $2000-2300 with filters
FT-1000MP Mk V new
FT-1000MP Mk V Field new
I will be taking my radio to other ham shacks to guest op during contests as
I live in an apartment at this time. Occasionally I might want to lug along
a radio when staying in a cabin while camping. I mainly operate SSB but do
CW when handing out points in tests and when chasing DX. Computer
interfacing will be done with Writelog and DX4WIN software.
I'm leaning towards a 1000D based on the advice of a ham friend who I
consider very knowledgeable with various radio lines as he works in the
sales end of ham radio. I would love to hear any suggestions based on your
thoughts between these 3 radios. My emphasis is on contesting capabilities
using SSB and CW to lesser extent. Dxing comes 2nd in my operating habits as
a between contest activity.
Will I miss the DSP features introduced with the MP Mk V line? Or will the
"pinnacle of analogue technology" suffice just fine for contest operation?
The 200 watts output of the 1000D and Mk V seems great, but I'd just as
rather go legal limit if 100 watts doesn't work right off the bat, so I
don't think that the extra power is a huge issue when you've got a linear in
the shack. Any radio I buy will be loaded with filters, in the choice of the
Mark V series it will obviously bring the cost well over the "loaded, used
D"
Thanks a lot for anyone's opinions and thoughts, 73, Tim N6WIN.
>From k2wr at njdxa.org Mon Apr 22 00:25:53 2002
From: k2wr@njdxa.org (Rich K2WR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio 2002
References: <013801c1e978$13f2a160$6d14d2c8@asbyte.com.br>
Message-ID: <002401c1e9ad$68e90440$0200a8c0@5j08601>
Vitor (and others interested):
Friedrichshafen Messe (Convention Center):
http://www.messe-fn.de/fairs/ham_radio/index.php3
D.A.R.C. info page (in German):
http://home.t-online.de/home/sauter.up/darc/seiten/ham.htm
English:
http://www.darc.de/referate/ausland/foreign/exhibit.html
Portugese:
http://www.darc.de/referate/ausland/CT/aus-port.html
I went last year and had a great time. Making arrangements to go again this
year. Hope to see you there.
73, Rich K2WR
>From n2mg at contesting.com Mon Apr 22 06:19:06 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
Message-ID:
<20020422051908.11933.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Also,
1) The ability to chat (great for those overnight
hours when only the operators are awake and nobody's
sure that anyone is manning the generators as well as
for other less-serious reasons).
2) The entire operations' log is on all machines (good
for backup purposes).
3) Thanks to number 2, the convenience of seeing the
total score on any given machine.
73 Mike N2MG
On Sun, 21 April 2002, "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" wrote
>
> It gives you the flexibility to use any station on
any band. By having all
> the computers networked, they all have the current
log of stations worked
> and won't have to waste time chasing dupes.
>
> For operations where stations are dedicated to bands
or modes, it is
> probably better to avoid the hassle/issues of
networking. Keep it simple!
>
> K5ZD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of
> > mi2az05@netscape.net
> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 21:24 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
> >
> >
> > I have been reading the posts on FD software and
the networking
> > issue. Am I missing something, why are the
computers being
> > networked? No need for it at FD is there? All you
submit is a
> > dupesheet. Just wondering why the importance of
networking at FD?
> >
> > Barry
> >
________________________________________________
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Mon Apr 22 04:16:23 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Reply Summary (to date)
References: <040101c1e942$348f3b80$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <000301c1ea01$ab6e8b60$012bfa43@computer>
Hi Ron
Go to the webe site ac6v.com tons on free ware there and NA is one of them.
The operation is basicly the same as CT and works on a DOS mach. or also on
win ME in a DOS window in ME or exit to DOS prompt is better.
I use it here for all contest and have no problems.
NO reason to LINK computers for FD other than to show it can be done. Hand
everyone a floppy and tell everyone to copy the whaateverfd.QDF to it post
FD take them home and do all the logs on your on computer.
Rex K7QQ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 15:37
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Reply Summary (to date)
> Thanks to all who've replied to me on the FD Logging software question I
> posed yesterday.
>
> Examining the replies has been interesting.
>
> In terms of raw numbers, the overwhelming number of responses have been in
> favor of TRLog. Interestingly enough, most of these responses have come
> from the TRLog reflector, NOT the CQ-Contest reflector... since one of the
> replies to me was cross-posted.
>
> Sticking solely to reponses from CQ-Contest, TRLog still had the most
> favorable responses, with NA and CT both tied for a close second. But
most
> of the CT comments have not been ringing endorsements -- most have
basically
> told me that since I already own CT, might as well stick with it rather
than
> learn a new package. Also interesting comments there.
>
> I'm still interested in further comments from anyone familiar with these
> three packages. Meantime I'm going to have to hunt up copies of TRLog &
NA
> for comparison... a thought that still makes me shudder (several years
ago,
> I once asked a few questions about one of these on the Pa QSO Party
> reflector and unexpectedly received a phone call from the distributor who
> had been told I was ready to buy it!)
>
> A few additional comments:
> Several people have told me that networking the laptops for FD isn't worth
> the aggravation. Actually, I agree, but I was asked to check into it. (
> Don't shoot the messenger! )
>
> Several others have had... interesting reactions to my comment regarding
our
> blind member. I've been called Politcally Correct ( please! ) for even
> mentioning it; and prejuduced for not referring to him as "visually
> impaired" instead of "blind." Must be doing something right if I'm
ticking
> off both sides of THAT nonsense. In any event, while I appreciate the
> well-meant comments on alternatives to sticking to text-based software so
> that Shawn's text-to-voice stuff would work... well, we don't work that
way
> here, sorry. He's a member of our club, he's a great operator, and a
> reasonable request like this is not a burden, merely a small problem to be
> solved. Sorry a few don't look at it that way, but that's life.
>
> Besides, the alternative is that he'll cook again this year. (Think I'm
> kidding? Go to http://doit.pgh.net/~wolfie/washrag.htm, pull up the July
> 2001 issue, and look at Page 7) Although a cross-state wedding kept me
from
> the club FD op last year, I hear that his burgers were first-rate...
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "There's No Crying in Baseball!"
> -- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
>
>
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>
>From ad1c at yahoo.com Mon Apr 22 08:15:16 2002
From: ad1c@yahoo.com (Jim Reisert)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
In-Reply-To:
<20020422051908.11933.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <20020422141516.77032.qmail@web13604.mail.yahoo.com>
--- Mike Gilmer - N2MG <n2mg@contesting.com> wrote:
> 1) The ability to
> 2) The entire operations' log is on all machines (good
> for backup purposes).
> 3) Thanks to number 2, the convenience of seeing the
> total score on any given machine.
And for us hard-core multi-op contesters, the ability to pass QSOs, i.e. "Hey,
we're also CQing on 21.245, look for us there right now!"
73 - Jim AD1C
=====
Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863
USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 22 08:06:50 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204221406.g3ME6oX27947@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
WX5S(@W6YX) 4553 1078 48 10,743,348 NCCC
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 48 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
NZ1U(@KB1H) 2207 896 34 5,264,896 YCCC
NT6K 2254 845 48 4,173,455 NCCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
N4WSM 260 209 146,091 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K6LRN 333 255 208,640 NCCC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ1U KB1DFB,KB1H,N1XS
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
YW4M DL2GG,YV2IF,YV3AZC,YV4FZM,YV4GLD,YV4GME,YV4YC,
YV5AMH,YV5EED,YV5IQJ,YV5IVB,YV5LMW
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 22 08:09:48 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
22Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204221409.g3ME9mr27956@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
YW4M 9455 1415 48 45,210,665
OT2A 9687 1523 37,950,114
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
VE7SCC 2120 0 48 4,406,904 Coquitlam Amateur Ra
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
P40V 6610 1251 48 25,617,978 NCCC
3V8BB 5868 1238 48 23,900,828 YU CC
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCF
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
VE7UQ 689 391 676,821
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 @12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCF
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
VP5V(W5AO) 4333 990 36 10,409,850 OkDX
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 542 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
ZD9IR 756 387 15 877,716
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
VE5SF 628 366 9 543,510
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
TM4K(F5BEG) 1040 547 1,346,714
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCF
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
Z33AA 928 501 1,122,240
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
VK4NEF 606 390 672,360
VE1ASJ 591 378 26 556,794
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
UT7QF 2334 929 35 4,825,226 UCC
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCF
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
YT1RA 1227 588 36 1,535,268 YU CC
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14.4 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 LP
4N1A(YU1EA) 154 121 38,115
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCF
YT9X(YZ1KA) 1346 629 36 1,697,042 YU CC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
PJ2H(W0CG) 1098 500 21 3,226,000 Caribbean Contesting
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ1U KB1DFB,KB1H,N1XS
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
YW4M DL2GG,YV2IF,YV3AZC,YV4FZM,YV4GLD,YV4GME,YV4YC,
YV5AMH,YV5EED,YV5IQJ,YV5IVB,YV5LMW
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 22 08:30:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] EU Sprint Sprints - CW/SSB 22Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020422072901.00a46650@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 EU Spring Sprint, CW - Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 5, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Paolo Cortese, I2UIY
PO Box 14
27043 Broni (PV)
Italy
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 148 4 148
M0TTT 136 4 136
LY2OX 132 132 LDXG
UY5ZZ 124 124 UCC
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
9A7P(9A6XX) 126 3:20 126 WWYC
I2WIJ 55 1 55
EI/G4BUO 32 1.2 32
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 22 08:15:52 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204221415.g3MEFqN27969@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: mqp@contesting.com
Mail logs to:
Mad River Radio Club
c/o Dave Pruett
2727 Harris Road
Ypsilanti, MI 48198
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
M/M HP
K8AA 302 560 102 89 11 222,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
Mobile LP
K5OT/M 205 77 51 32 40,421 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
Single Op HP
N9RV 145 89 58 37 6 36,005 SMC
K8DX 76 95 77 0 4 19,019 MRRC
VE7FO 38 16 25 12 5 3,404
VK2CZ 0 1 0 1 1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
Single Op LP
K8KHZ 74 311 39 90 12 59,211 Hazel Park ARC
K8SIA 185 120 56 51 7 52,430 MRRC
K7SV 166 100 64 42 11 45,792 PVRC
AD1C 157 49 72 31 10 37,389 YCCC
NY1S 118 45 63 23 11 24,116
KN4Y 150 0 73 0 12 21,900 FCG
N2CU 63 37 30 19 3 7,987 Western NY DX Assn
NF4A 52 32 32 15 6,392 FCG
WN6K 40 25 22 14 3,780 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
Single Op QRP
K3WW 82 19 47 14 6 11,163 FRC
Operators:
K8AA K8AA,KB8ECG,NU8Z
>From jimdstearns at msn.com Mon Apr 22 11:36:44 2002
From: jimdstearns@msn.com (Jim Stearns)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
In-Reply-To:
<20020422051908.11933.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <IPEKKPKNPHNBJJOEKHCLEENDCMAA.jimdstearns@msn.com>
Hello All,
Networking is great.....
However, it should be tested well in advance, startup scripts written, etc.
I've seen too many contesting hours missed do to the net going down and
people wanting you to re-boot, change drivers, NIC cards, etc.
We do not network but we do configure all our individual computers with a
bat file so if we get a pwr surge, lightning shut downs, etc. the Op can
just type the name of the .bat file and he is back on the air.
GL in the contest.
73
* Jim, W4MGM
* Member Woodbridge Wireless, Inc., ARC
* Est. 1972
* See WWI Homepage for Membership Information and Events
* WWW.WoodbridgeWireless.Org
* "Radio Amateurs in Community Action"
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Mike Gilmer - N2MG
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 8:19 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
Also,
1) The ability to chat (great for those overnight
hours when only the operators are awake and nobody's
sure that anyone is manning the generators as well as
for other less-serious reasons).
2) The entire operations' log is on all machines (good
for backup purposes).
3) Thanks to number 2, the convenience of seeing the
total score on any given machine.
73 Mike N2MG
On Sun, 21 April 2002, "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" wrote
>
> It gives you the flexibility to use any station on
any band. By having all
> the computers networked, they all have the current
log of stations worked
> and won't have to waste time chasing dupes.
>
> For operations where stations are dedicated to bands
or modes, it is
> probably better to avoid the hassle/issues of
networking. Keep it simple!
>
> K5ZD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of
> > mi2az05@netscape.net
> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 21:24 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
> >
> >
> > I have been reading the posts on FD software and
the networking
> > issue. Am I missing something, why are the
computers being
> > networked? No need for it at FD is there? All you
submit is a
> > dupesheet. Just wondering why the importance of
networking at FD?
> >
> > Barry
> >
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>From n2mg at contesting.com Mon Apr 22 08:45:26 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
Message-ID:
<20020422074526.14896.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Mon, 22 April 2002, "Jim Stearns" wrote
> we do configure all our individual computers with a
> bat file so if we get a pwr surge, lightning shut
> downs, etc. the Op can just type the name of
> the .bat file and he is back on the air.
I do this for ALL contests. I have contest-specific
batch files (with useful names, like CQWWCW01.bat)
that are usually based on last year's setup. These
load the TSRs, have the right command-line stuff,
whatever... but, perhaps more importantly, I have
another one called GO.BAT that calls the contest-
specific one. All I ever need to do in the event of a
crash is type "GO".
73,
Mike
n2mg@contesting.com
________________________________________________
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http://www.peoplepc.com
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Mon Apr 22 16:45:13 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
In-Reply-To:
<20020422074526.14896.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <000901c1ea14$b2160e80$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
> > we do configure all our individual computers with a
> > bat file so if we get a pwr surge, lightning shut
> > downs, etc. the Op can just type the name of
> > the .bat file and he is back on the air.
>
> I do this for ALL contests. I have contest-specific
> batch files (with useful names, like CQWWCW01.bat)
> that are usually based on last year's setup. These
> load the TSRs, have the right command-line stuff,
> whatever... but, perhaps more importantly, I have
> another one called GO.BAT that calls the contest-
> specific one. All I ever need to do in the event of a
> crash is type "GO".
>
ok, now take that one more step... at the end of the autoexec.bat add
two lines:
pause
go
and when you reboot the op gets the prompt 'press any key...' and when
he does the log starts automatically. You use ctrl-break to bypass it
when needed.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Mon Apr 22 13:11:20 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ron D. Rossi)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEILDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <200204221611.MAA27056@johnpaul.btv.ibm.com>
>>>"jljarvis" said:
>
> W1MOO, 5A VT, will change from TR to Writelog this year.
> 6 node ethernet network....5 stations and a site-executive laptop.
Same setup as TR.
>
> Last year, TR's quirky use of memory cost us 50Q's and two key
> hours of downtime on one cw station, when the bands were hot.
Jim the year before it was because all the power save features were not turned
off on the laptop. Last year we might have lost 50Qs, but it was because the
CW tent "HAD" to run on windows laptops with all kinds of extra stuff. Booting
it back up required the owner to be there to have it done correctly. The
bottom line though is you cannot turn off a networked computer when you go
home for the night!! The other machines were "clean boots" and worked fine
(nor were they turned off!!).
>
> Ethernet vs. rs232c should improve rfi issues across the site.
There were no RFI issues. In general ethernet has great capabilities, but with
increased complexity.
>
> Ease of setup of networked operation in Writelog will save us
> setup and debug time.
To be fair it "might" save us time. We don't know that yet, since it is the
first year. Last year it was <1 hour including running cables from no
computers to having all five booted and talking to each other (up to 200'
distance between CPUs).
>
> And we've got a TR expert in our midst; although he gets to
> sleep and go to church! So we're switching programs despite
> his feelings for TR.
It will free me up!! Now someone else gets to be slaved to the network =:-)
>
> Last year's disaster happened during the sleep/church period,
> of course. Thank you, Father Murphy! :)
Bless you my son!
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron rossi(kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From nat at ajheatwole.com Mon Apr 22 14:29:24 2002
From: nat@ajheatwole.com (Nat Heatwole)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Thank You WJ9B!
References:
<20020422074526.14896.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <008b01c1ea23$3f8329c0$6ec214ac@guilford.edu>
Fellow Contesters,
I'm currently going to school at Guilford College in Greensboro, NC. I
was walking to class one day last semester and I noticed a HF tribander
on a building on campus. My later inquiries about the antenna led me to
Physics professor Rex Adelberger. Through Rex I learned that the antenna
is a Mosley CL-36-M and that it is attached to a station with two linear
amps and two HF radios. I also learned that there have been several ham
clubs at Guilford in the past and Rex agreed to be the faculty advisor
to another if I could get a club established.
I don't think I've ever seen a station in greater disarray but in the
months that followed I set about rebuilding it. But I soon hit an
obstacle. All of the students at Guilford are stuck in the satellite TV,
cell phone, Internet, DVD, computer, PDA era. In other words, bulky
analog gear that's 30-40 years old, is not computer controllable, and
that can't work RTTY/PSK would not attract sufficient interest for a
club. I sent messages to the PVRC and CQ-Contest reflectors begging for
donations of newer gear but to my dismay I got *NO* offers.
Later, Carl Willis, KF4KIG (the only other known licensed ham at
Guilford) dragged me to the Raleigh Hamfest. I have been a member of
PVRC for years and PVRC-NC had a booth there so I stopped by to meet
some of the NC crowd. One of them was Will, WJ9B, a professor at
UNC-Greensboro, which is just down the street from Guilford. The day
after the hamfest Will e-mailed me and offered to donate some gear in
exchange for a tax deduction. A few days later he arrived at Guilford
wielding an Omni C and an Argonaut II. While the Omni C is a step down
from computer control it is ten steps up from the rigs currently there.
The fair market value of this donation was $1150(!).
This was the inertia we needed. I am more confident now than I have been
at any other time that a working station and functioning club will be
present on campus very soon, hopefully soon enough to get the station on
the air for SS (go PVRC!). I would like to publically extend my personal
thanks to Will, WJ9B. He is a fine individual, a great friend, and an A1
ham. He could have gotten more money had he chosen to sell these rigs on
the open market but he instead decided to donate them. Fine business! He
did not ask that I send this thank you; it's an expression of how truly
grateful I am.
I know his generosity is paralleled in the contesting community and I
hope that others will follow in his footsteps. If anyone reading this
can donate money or equipment of any magnitude to our efforts it would
be *GREATLY* appreciated and I can arrange all of the specifics for a
tax deduction. Please e-mail me if you can help in any way. Thanks
again, Will! Hopefully you are the first of many.
73, Nat, WZ3AR
<nat@ajheatwole.com>
>From w7zr at citlink.net Mon Apr 22 11:37:47 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <015701c1ea24$6cd00960$35d1fea9@N1>
How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
Most recent WPX SSB
SO AB (A) HP
NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the fact that
he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R is not a
separate classification.
I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a current
class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but unfortunetly
I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
Dick W7ZR
Price Reduced!!
Vacation or Retire Here
It's Paradise on the Beach
www.w7zr.com
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Mon Apr 22 19:16:27 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020422171627.012e77ac@pop.vnet.net>
Today I received my plaque for the 2000 CQ WPX SSB which I only
decided to sponsor last June...AFTER the 2000 results were published
(since it represented the new USA record for SOSB10). Steve N8BJQ is
doing a great job of almost SINGLE-HANDEDLY managing both WPX contests
which are nearly as popular worldwide as the CQ WW (which has far more
volunteer support with nearly two dozen Committee Members and 17 DX
Advisors). I am sure he puts in a huge number of hours collecting logs,
analyzing them, preparing the results/stories, responding to UBN requests,
keeping worldwide records up-to-date, preparing certificate lists for CQ
(who actually mails all certificates) and managing the plaques (donors and
recipients). There is NO other major DX contest that has only ONE person
doing what Steve does and NO other major DX contest that provides complete
world records concurrent with published results. Given all of this, I am
always amazed at how reponsive Steve is to any request from me!
Kudos to Steve for a thankless job! Maybe a little less griping
and a little more volunteering to help is in order from some of us.
73, Bill W4ZV
P.S. On top of WPX, Steve is also one of the CQ WW Committe Members!
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Mon Apr 22 15:24:56 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] TR vs. WL
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHGEJMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
I need to clarify something....regarding my TR vs. WriteLog post,
and W1MOO Field Day. KK1L, our TR maven, observed that the networking
issues were identical for either program...and he's right.
Beyond that, I offer the following quotation:
?Last year we might have lost 50Qs, but it was because the CW tent "HAD"
to run on windows laptops with all kinds of extra stuff. Booting
it back up required the owner to be there to have it done correctly. The
bottom line though is you cannot turn off a networked computer when you go
home for the night!! The other machines were "clean boots" and worked fine
(nor were they turned off!!)."
Ron is CORRECT; I stand chastened. TR is a slick program. I own it, as
well as Writelog. At the root of it, I guess, is whether one is a windows
nazi or not. (This is the point at which Linux fans should jump in...)
I personally don?t care what program is running, so long as there are
stick-on labels on the FN keys. My sense is, WL may be easier to implement
the network connection than TR, for the uninitiated or casual user. Once
one is proficient in TR?s setup, I believe it?s essentially a wash.
In rethinking last year?s problem...Ron is absolutely right. It WAS
specifically due to one laptop, which had gone into screen blanked,
system sleep mode....where a casual visitor couldn?t tell if it was
sleeping or powered off. Hitting the power switch didn?t wake it up...
it turned it off. The other laptop in that tent was in the sleep mode,
but hitting its power switch DID wake it up.
Message: set all computers power control options to ?never?...and keep the
power on, if you?re going to network.
73, Jim, n2ea
>From n2mg at contesting.com Mon Apr 22 13:21:50 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
Message-ID:
<20020422122152.17715.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
My one, weekend-long, experience with Writelog (we had
another nickname for it) was in a fully networked,
6-station, multi-multi environment and was less than
thrilling. Most PCs locked up at various times, and,
after rebooting, were, as often as not, invisible to
the network no matter what we tried. After a half-
hour or an hour (or two), poof!, they would simply
reappear on the network. Magic! There were many
things about Writelog that I liked. Its networking
reliability was not one of them.
Anyway, another "good" reason for networking at field
day is the gee-whiz attraction of which most hams are
guilty. That is, assuming one can get it going and
keep it going...
73 Mike N2MG
On Mon, 22 April 2002, "Ron D. Rossi" wrote
>
> >>>"jljarvis" said:
> >
> > Ease of setup of networked operation in Writelog
will save us
> > setup and debug time.
>
> To be fair it "might" save us time. We don't know
that yet, since it is the
> first year. Last year it was <1 hour including
running cables from no
> computers to having all five booted and talking to
each other (up to 200'
> distance between CPUs).
>
________________________________________________
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>From k0hb at earthlink.net Mon Apr 22 20:42:54 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?Windows-1252?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PC control of Yaesu G-1000DXA rotor?
Message-ID: <016101c1ea2d$85606700$4517be3f@bigguy>
I have a Yaesu G-1000DXA antenna rotor. This rotor can be come under PC control
(CT, and other logging programs) with addition of a GS-232A adapter. I'm not
sure what's inside that gadget, but it costs $540, about the cost of the rest of
the rotor itself. Has anyone here homebrewed up a replacement for this thing?
Care to share your schematic and code?
(???) 73, de Hans, K0HB
--
"If people concentrated on the really important things
of life, there'd be a shortage of fishing rods and Vibroplex
keys."
>From rthorne at tcac.net Mon Apr 22 15:44:19 2002
From: rthorne@tcac.net (Richard Thorne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [Yaesu] PC control of Yaesu G-1000DXA rotor?
References: <016101c1ea2d$85606700$4517be3f@bigguy>
Message-ID: <3CC46813.D64B85DF@tcac.net>
Hans:
Go to: http://idiompress.com/ They have a board that will work for $149.95.
It
emulates the Hygain DCU-1. So if your software supports the DCU-1, it should
handle
this card.
The normal waivers apply, i.e. I have no financial interest etc. etc........
K?HB wrote:
> I have a Yaesu G-1000DXA antenna rotor. This rotor can be come under PC
> control
> (CT, and other logging programs) with addition of a GS-232A adapter. I'm not
> sure what's inside that gadget, but it costs $540, about the cost of the rest
> of
> the rotor itself. Has anyone here homebrewed up a replacement for this thing?
> Care to share your schematic and code?
>
> (???) 73, de Hans, K0HB
>
> --
> "If people concentrated on the really important things
> of life, there'd be a shortage of fishing rods and Vibroplex
> keys."
>
> _______________________________________________
> Yaesu mailing list
> Yaesu@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/yaesu
--
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Advo Companies, Inc.
806-342-0600
>From k1ir at designet.com Mon Apr 22 18:23:28 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
Message-ID: <gp4ct8clw31qm88.220420021723@designet-jsi>
Mike,
Your story about WriteLog isn't what we experience here in our multi-single
operations. Once we get the Windows networking configured right, we never have
a problem getting a machine back on line after a problem. We have had some
occassional system hangs, but getting the machine back up is really easy, and
the log syncs up immediately. It is totally cool to have all four logs reliably
identical at the end of the contest.
73,
Jim
[CQ-Contest] FD logging program
Mike Gilmer - N2MG n2mg@contesting.com
Mon, 22 Apr 2002 12:21:50 -0700 (PDT)
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My one, weekend-long, experience with Writelog (we had
another nickname for it) was in a fully networked,
6-station, multi-multi environment and was less than
thrilling. Most PCs locked up at various times, and,
after rebooting, were, as often as not, invisible to
the network no matter what we tried. After a half-
hour or an hour (or two), poof!, they would simply
reappear on the network. Magic! There were many
things about Writelog that I liked. Its networking
reliability was not one of them.
Anyway, another "good" reason for networking at field
day is the gee-whiz attraction of which most hams are
guilty. That is, assuming one can get it going and
keep it going...
73 Mike N2MG
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Apr 22 20:19:04 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
Message-ID: <00db01c1ea54$182c6680$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Five days until the Florida QSO Party - hopefully we will get some better
conditions than our friends in Michigan and Ontario had this past weekend.
In case you haven't gone yet - check out the FQP website:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
All 67 counties should be activated by at least one and possibly two or
three more stations depending on traffic. Sweeps should be possible once
again...who will be the first?
GL!
The Florida Contest Group
Sponsors of The Florida QSO Party
(sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
away - K4OJ)
>From k5zd at charter.net Tue Apr 23 02:20:03 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <015701c1ea24$6cd00960$35d1fea9@N1>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEDPDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
I suspect if NV4X was SO1R he would have *only* had about 2800 x 950 for
7.0M...
More variables here than you can see in the score listings.
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Richard Zalewski
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 17:38 PM
> To: cq-contest
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>
> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
>
> Most recent WPX SSB
>
> SO AB (A) HP
>
> NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
>
> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> fact that
> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that
> SO2R is not a
> separate classification.
>
> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in
> a current
> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> unfortunetly
> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
>
> Dick W7ZR
>
> Price Reduced!!
> Vacation or Retire Here
> It's Paradise on the Beach
> www.w7zr.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From n6ki at juno.com Mon Apr 22 22:55:04 2002
From: n6ki@juno.com (Dennis Vernacchia)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Dick,
I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
advantage.
I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
will seee that the
top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
that is
due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
Bottom line, just list it in results.
73, Dennis N6KI
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
writes:
> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
>
> Most recent WPX SSB
>
> SO AB (A) HP
>
> NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
>
> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> fact that
> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> is not a
> separate classification.
>
> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> current
> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> unfortunetly
> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
>
> Dick W7ZR
>
> Price Reduced!!
> Vacation or Retire Here
> It's Paradise on the Beach
> www.w7zr.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
73,
Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
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>From k8do at amethyst.diamondcs.net Tue Apr 23 09:53:52 2002
From: k8do@amethyst.diamondcs.net (Dennis O'Connor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
References:
<20020422122152.17715.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <005101c1eac5$f0b7d180$1d996c40@gq7mb01>
My experience has been with CT and TRLog... I have found that TRLog, run on
a dos machine (any version from 2.0 onwards to 5.0, not windoze faking it)
and networked off the 232 port is absolutely bulletproof...
An additional advantage is that the DOS autoexec.bat file can simply have
the name of the current contest inserted as the last line and whenever you
get a power interruption the machine simply reboots directly into the
contest without the operator doing anything except yelling at whoever is
responsible for power, "what happened to the !@#$%^&* power, dammit?"...
While all the computers are loaded with windoze on the harddrive, we simply
pop a DOS boot disc in the A: drive that loads DOS (3.3 in my case) when
the machine is powered up... When the contest is over the floppy is popped
out of the A: drive and the machine reverts to windoze automatically...
Denny
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
> My one, weekend-long, experience with Writelog (we had
> another nickname for it) was in a fully networked,
> 6-station, multi-multi environment and was less than
> thrilling. Most PCs locked up at various times, and,
> after rebooting, were, as often as not, invisible to
> the network no matter what we tried. After a half-
> hour or an hour (or two), poof!, they would simply
> reappear on the network. Magic! There were many
> things about Writelog that I liked. Its networking
> reliability was not one of them.
>
> Anyway, another "good" reason for networking at field
> day is the gee-whiz attraction of which most hams are
> guilty. That is, assuming one can get it going and
> keep it going...
>
> 73 Mike N2MG
>
>
> On Mon, 22 April 2002, "Ron D. Rossi" wrote
>
> >
> > >>>"jljarvis" said:
> > >
> > > Ease of setup of networked operation in Writelog
> will save us
> > > setup and debug time.
> >
> > To be fair it "might" save us time. We don't know
> that yet, since it is the
> > first year. Last year it was <1 hour including
> running cables from no
> > computers to having all five booted and talking to
> each other (up to 200'
> > distance between CPUs).
> >
>
> ________________________________________________
> PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
> http://www.peoplepc.com
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From dave at egh.com Tue Apr 23 10:17:13 2002
From: dave@egh.com (David Clemons)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: FQP minus 5
Message-ID: <00A0CE30.1E6D45B6.33@egh.com>
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the FQP reminder, it's easy to forget the FQP is
coming up this time of year. :-)
Is it true that the FQP has new a logchecking software package
called CHAD?
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
>From dhenderson at arrl.org Tue Apr 23 10:36:25 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL International DX CW Contest Logs Received posted
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B786D@KAHLESS>
The list of Logs Received for the 2002 ARRL International DX CW Contest has
been posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
If you find an error in your listing, please have your Cabrillo log file and
receipt number available when you contact me at 860-594-0232 or by email at
contests@arrl.org
If your entry is missing, please contact me at the above numbers. Logs
received after the deadline for submission, received with an invalid format
or with missing information may be re-classified as Checklogs.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From 9a3a at spidernet.com.cy Tue Apr 23 15:01:21 2002
From: 9a3a@spidernet.com.cy (Ivo PEZER, 5B4ADA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Message-ID: <006e01c1eab6$349aeb40$b6949ac2@spidernet.net>
Unfortunatelly, our hoby of contesting is far from being equal to all
participants.
SO2R is just one of the latest developements that have caused many concerns.
But, maybe one can look at SO2R from other perspective. In my case, I've
upgraded to SO2R because I have no space for multiple towers and multiple
stacks. With SO2R I at least have better chance to increase my score using
single yagi antennas on 46 ft roof mounted tower.
I would, however, trade SO2R for multiple tower/stack station with fully
automatic amplifier if that was possible... but what about SO2R's with
multiple tower/stack/amp etc. station....
It's never ending story, I guess.
73 and enjoy contesting.
Ivo 5B4ADA/C4A
>
> I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
> the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
> That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
> will seee that the
> top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
> that is
> due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
>
> Bottom line, just list it in results.
>
> 73, Dennis N6KI
>
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
> writes:
> > How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >
> > Most recent WPX SSB
> >
> > SO AB (A) HP
> >
> > NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> >
> > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> > fact that
> > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> > is not a
> > separate classification.
> >
> > I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> > current
> > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> > unfortunetly
> > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >
> > Dick W7ZR
>From w2up at mindspring.com Tue Apr 23 11:14:48 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Message-ID: <E17014E-0005OT-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
Dennis,
I added a second radio a few years ago to improve my
competiveness (and fun!) as a single-op, or SOA. Now that some
single ops have found a way to improve their scores within the rules
you want to change those rules. Is that fair? I've already spent my
time, effort and money on the second radio setup. BTW, I do it all
with a one tower station, so don't tell me you need major real
estate, mltiple towers, megabucks, etc. That argument doesn't fly.
Using your logic, multi-single should be split into more than one
category. There's MO1R - a bunch of guys time-sharing one radio.
MO2R - a bunch of guys sharing 2 radios, where one is a run radio
and the other is a mult radio. MOMR - a bunch of guys sharing
what should be a multi-multi, where one guy runs, and 3 or 4 other
guys tune the bands chasing mults watching 10 minute timers,
etc.
And how about breaking down multi-multi? There are the
"professional" stations like LPL, XX, JA where guys fly in from all
over the world to operate. On the other hand, there are stations like
K3ANS and W3PP that are less "refined" and encourage newbies
to operate to gain experience.
Better yet, let's let everyone have their own category and decide
who they want to compete with.
73,
Barry W2UP
On 22 Apr 02, at 21:55, Dennis Vernacchia wrote:
> Dick,
>
> I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
> suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that already
> run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the advantage.
>
> I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on the
> reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
> That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and
> you will seee that the top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an
> SO2R station gets beat but that is due to other factors like a poor Op
> or lack of good equipment/antennas.
>
> Bottom line, just list it in results.
>
> 73, Dennis N6KI
>
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski"
> <w7zr@citlink.net> writes: > How about considering this regarding SO2R
> as a separate class. > > Most recent WPX SSB > > SO AB (A) HP > > NV4X
> 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS
> 2.78M > > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X
> or the > fact that > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep
> telling me that SO2R > is not a > separate classification. > > I sure
> would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a > current
> > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but >
> unfortunetly > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts. > > Dick W7ZR > >
> Price Reduced!! > Vacation or Retire Here > It's Paradise on the Beach
> > www.w7zr.com > > _______________________________________________ >
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> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest >
>
>
> 73,
>
> Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
>
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>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Tue Apr 23 14:43:44 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
In-Reply-To: <200204231306.g3ND6L9F026807@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020423134138.00d30c80@pop.pacific.net.hk>
K4OJ concluded with:
>(sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
>away - K4OJ)
Yeah, right. That's when we start seeing "364 days until FQP!" posts if memory
serves me correctly.
;^)
73, BW2/VR2BrettGraham
>From thompson at mindspring.com Tue Apr 23 11:47:30 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R another class??
Message-ID: <006301c1ead5$cc482ba0$d04b56d1@default>
I don't think so. Years ago we used a separate receiver to be able to
listen on two frequencies at once.
Then when transceivers came along with broad band so there was no tuning we
could switch between
the VFO's and good ops found that they could hold a frequency while using
the other VFO to tune around the band. My old Yaesu even let me have the
other VFO on another band.
The only difference with SO2R is having two rigs rather than two VFO's. The
next step in complexity is to have each hooked to different antennas and
amps. I agree with K5ZD's assumption of perhaps 80 less QSO's without SO2R.
Since SO2R have no access to packet or web spots then those operating as
assisted can make better use of SO2R.
I have writelog running and also have web summit so assisted SO2R (mine is
limited to one antenna/amp altho I can switch antennas). I find that I can
work 4 or 5 mults or others in a test hour.
I don't feel this would hold up for the entire contest. 60 to 80 out of
2880 is quite reasonable for SO no 2R.
While I am at it I don't think the tri-bander single wire is much worse than
tri-bander shorty 2 el 40.
Those of us with one tower think one tower is a better representation if one
is needed at all.
Dave K4JRB
>From kk4ta at strato.net Tue Apr 23 13:56:32 2002
From: kk4ta@strato.net (Tom and Adela)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: FQP minus 5
In-Reply-To: <00A0CE30.1E6D45B6.33@egh.com>
Message-ID: <BIEGKCDKMCJPDIEONEMJIEHACCAA.kk4ta@strato.net>
The acronym stands for "Can't Have Any Dupes"
Tom
KK4TA
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@CONTESTING.COM
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@CONTESTING.COM]On Behalf Of David Clemons
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 9:17 AM
To: CQ-CONTEST@CONTESTING.COM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: FQP minus 5
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the FQP reminder, it's easy to forget the FQP is
coming up this time of year. :-)
Is it true that the FQP has new a logchecking software package
called CHAD?
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
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>From no5w at txucom.net Tue Apr 23 13:11:43 2002
From: no5w@txucom.net (Charles Sanders)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
In-Reply-To: <00db01c1ea54$182c6680$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <000001c1eae9$f1c58da0$6401a8c0@EMOCSANDER>
Jim --
The Michigan group posted routes for the mobiles just prior to the test.
Will that be done for FQP? Good to see all of that orange on the website.
CU this weekend hopefully with better conditions than the MiQP.
73/Chuck/NO5W
>>Five days until the Florida QSO Party - hopefully we will get some better
>>conditions than our friends in Michigan and Ontario had this past weekend.
>>(sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
>>away - K4OJ)
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>From snichols at mvosprey.com Tue Apr 23 15:03:40 2002
From: snichols@mvosprey.com (Scott Nichols)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
References: <00db01c1ea54$182c6680$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <3CC593EC.7A011F57@mvosprey.com>
Hats off to the organizers of the FQP...I just received my certificate from
last year and a well done summary pamphlet of what happened, results, info
etc...Good work...
73, Scott VE1OP
Jim White wrote:
> Five days until the Florida QSO Party - hopefully we will get some better
> conditions than our friends in Michigan and Ontario had this past weekend.
>
> In case you haven't gone yet - check out the FQP website:
>
> http://www.qsl.net/fqp
>
> All 67 counties should be activated by at least one and possibly two or
> three more stations depending on traffic. Sweeps should be possible once
> again...who will be the first?
>
> GL!
>
> The Florida Contest Group
> Sponsors of The Florida QSO Party
>
> (sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
> away - K4OJ)
>
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>From ken.claerbout at equant.com Tue Apr 23 14:27:10 2002
From: ken.claerbout@equant.com (ken.claerbout@equant.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <OF9E121321.7BEF5D74-ON85256BA4.004C4B66@domino.globalone.net>
At the risk of beating a horse that has assumed room temperature a long
time ago, Randy (K5ZD) is absolutely right. There are far more variables
involved than just SO1R vs SO2R.
Do we also start separate listings for those who have a single yagi as
opposed to a stack of two or three? They certainly have an advantage. Two
or three towers are certainly better than one. What do we do there? How
about those who use something like a 1000MP with dual VFO's as opposed to a
transceiver with a single VFO? Yes the playing field is not level and it
never will be completely.
I look back at my situation several years ago. I wanted to be
competitive with guys in the Top Ten. SO2R was just one piece of the
overall puzzle. K3ZO was beating me rather consistently on 15 meters.
Rather than suggest we place people with 8 element yagis at 160 feet in a
different category, I upgraded my 15 meter antenna system within the
confines of my available real estate (1 acre) and financial ability. To
me, that's what contesting is about.
If you choose not to operate SO2R for whatever reason, that's fine. It
doesn't however, make an argument to sub-divide the Single Operator
category anymore than it does for some of the other so called advantages
noted above (single yagi vs stacks, etc.).
73
Ken K4ZW
Dick,
I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
advantage.
I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
will seee that the
top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
that is
due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
Bottom line, just list it in results.
73, Dennis N6KI
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
writes:
> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
>
> Most recent WPX SSB
>
> SO AB (A) HP
>
> NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
>
> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> fact that
> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> is not a
> separate classification.
>
> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> current
> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> unfortunetly
> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
>
> Dick W7ZR
>
> Price Reduced!!
> Vacation or Retire Here
> It's Paradise on the Beach
> www.w7zr.com
>
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>From w0uo at cs.com Tue Apr 23 14:46:09 2002
From: w0uo@cs.com (w0uo@cs.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <2091E0D4.66C90F65.00004183@cs.com>
Contesters:
Dennis' suggestion is right on.
The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to include it in
contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage exists within
just a few months.
If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect between SO2R
and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two major
contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year to require
stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. If SO2R is the cause of
an advantage, one would expect the advantage to either be substantially
decreased or disappear in the second year.
Sound like a fair test?
7i3 de Jim
W0UO/5
Dennis Vernacchia <n6ki@juno.com> wrote:
>Dick,
>
> ? ? ? ? I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
>suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
>already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
>advantage.
> ? ? ? ?
> ? ? ? ?I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
>the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
>That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
>will seee that the
>top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
>that is
>due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
>
>Bottom line, just list it in results.
>
>73, Dennis ?N6KI
>
>On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
>writes:
>> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
>>
>> Most recent WPX SSB
>>
>> SO AB (A) HP
>>
>> NV4X ? ?2880 Q ?960 PFX ?33 HRS ?7.58M
>> WZ7ZR 1836 Q ?749 PFX ?32 HRS ?2.78M
>>
>> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
>> fact that
>> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
>> is not a
>> separate classification.
>>
>> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
>> current
>> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. ?I would do it but
>> unfortunetly
>> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
>>
>> Dick W7ZR
>>
>> Price Reduced!!
>> Vacation or Retire Here
>> It's Paradise on the Beach
>> www.w7zr.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
>
>73,
>
>Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
>
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>From kr6x at kr6x.com Tue Apr 23 11:48:43 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEDPDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Message-ID: <001a01c1eaef$202dcb80$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
In the world of computers the ubiquitous use of "TLA's" has
been dominating the ideology of descriptive language for
many years. Of course, "TLA's" stands for "three letter
abbreviations". The theory goes like this: if something isn't
important enough to be abbreviated until only the people to
which it is important can understand it, then it's insignificant.
Having personally pioneered the use of two transceivers at
W6HX over 30 years ago (no, I don't pretend to have been
the first contester to do this, only that I wandered into the
frontier unassisted), I knew when the TLA "SO2R" came
into widespread use that numerous competitors who had
previously considered the practice insignificant would
henceforth and forever after see "SO2R" as being somehow
fundamentally different from single transceiver operation.
Oh, yes, I realize that "SO2R" isn't 3 letters, it's 3 letters and
a number. Right. Sure, I'll be getting flamed on the list for
that. But many "TLA's" aren't really three letters. Consider
"MM" for "multi-operator, multi-transmitter", "MOST" or
"MS" for "multi-operator, single transmitter", and "M2" for
"multi-operator two transmitter". Those are categories, aren't
they?
It's funny that the more important issues in the competitive
position that contesters can attain aren't given the important
attention that they deserve. Oh, sure, one contest now has
a tribander and dipoles category that you can actually enter,
and there is even a category for inexperienced operators
somewhere in the immense structure for contests. But these
divisions in the contest world can never separate us quite
adequately until we have "TLA's" for each of them. I'm
sure that everyone will agree that we need some additional
"TLA's" to describe every facet of top notch competition
that separates us from reaching the top rungs of the contest.
Both the "good" and the "bad" issues require "TLA's".
For instance:
W5WMU's station has numerous towers. While most of
the operators in the November SS have dipoles on 40 and
80 meters, they often don't realize that a station like
W5WMU can have upwards of 6 full sized 40 meter beams
of 3 elements or greater - two stacked 3 elements pointed
at the Eastern seaboard, two pointed at the mid-west, and
two pointed at California. And, with one of the world's top
CW operators (N6TR) running SO2R you'd think a station
like that would always come out on top.
But NO!
WP3R always comes out on top. We need a "TLA" and a
separate entry category for WP3R. I'm going to suggest
"WP3R".
Here are a few more suggestions, and I hope I'm not the
only guy on the reflector who has ideas on this matter:
PN - Pencil Nightmare - enters every contest without
computer logging
PPC - Pirate's his Packet Callsign - Why do guys log
onto the internet/packet spotting nets with an inactive
operator's call during contests instead of their own?
TBD - Tri-Bander and Dipole? No! Tower Blew Down!
SSF - Single Sideband Filter only, no narrow CW filter
OF2R - Occupies run Frequency silently while chasing
multipliers on the second station - this can be a single
operator or a multi-operator multi-transmitter habit
HC - Happy Camper - MM station who, at 0000z, starts
calling "CQ contest" on 21,251 USB with 4 stacked
7 element yagis pointing at Europe and remains there
continuously for the next 48 hours. Implies OF2R.
TMC - Too Many Computers - No, these are the
neighbor's computers and television sets that put out
terrible RF radiation on all bands
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
To: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>; "cq-contest"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 18:20
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> I suspect if NV4X was SO1R he would have *only* had about 2800 x 950 for
> 7.0M...
>
> More variables here than you can see in the score listings.
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Richard Zalewski
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 17:38 PM
> > To: cq-contest
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> >
> >
> > How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >
> > Most recent WPX SSB
> >
> > SO AB (A) HP
> >
> > NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> >
> > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> > fact that
> > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that
> > SO2R is not a
> > separate classification.
> >
> > I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in
> > a current
> > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> > unfortunetly
> > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >
> > Dick W7ZR
> >
> > Price Reduced!!
> > Vacation or Retire Here
> > It's Paradise on the Beach
> > www.w7zr.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>From dhenderson at arrl.org Tue Apr 23 15:07:44 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL January VHF Sweepstakes Logs Received
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B7889@KAHLESS>
The list of Logs Received for the 2002 ARRL January VHF Sweepstakes has been
posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
If you find an error in your listing, please contact me at contests@arrl.org
or by phone at 860-594-0232. Please have your receipt number available if
you filed electronically. Logs listed as checklogs either submitted as such
or were missing necessary information in the Cabrillo log file.
Thanks and 73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 15:36:45 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <1020323143645.OAA13428@gate.iterated.com>
On 4/23/02 7:01 AM, Ivo PEZER, 5B4ADA at 9a3a@spidernet.com.cy wrote:
>SO2R is just one of the latest developements that have caused many concerns.
SO2R is not a recent development. SO2R operating is decades old.
Contrary to the conventional wisdom, SO2R isn't a matter of buying
equipment. Having two radios doesn't suddenly given you an overwhelming
advantage.
Further, consider the efforts of Fred, K3ZO. He manages to hold his own
quite nicely with just one radio.
--
Technology has also made the issue entirely confused. For a couple of
years I have made the statement that the FT-1000D has 95% of the required
circuitry to do SO2R operating with a single radio. The only thing that
it doesn't do is receive while transmitting.
Now comes TenTec with their Orion. I have yet to hear back from the Sales
department on my question, but I would be quite surprised if it couldn't
receive while transmitting.
SO2R operation is effectively two receivers and one transmitter run by
one operator. Since only one signal is on the air at a time, and all
logging, spotting and operating is done by the single operator, it
properly belongs in the Single-Operator category.
There is no need for a new category.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 16:31:49 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] More QRP Bashing
Message-ID: <1020323153149.PAA19534@gate.iterated.com>
On 3/27/02 10:12 AM, Guy Olinger, K2AV at k2av@contesting.com wrote:
>It would seem that interference problems are largely solved by staying
>at low power, 100 watts, though QRP will definitely keep you off the
>neighbor's radar.
I dunno. Even with 100 watts, I still get into my neighbor's telephones
when using certain antennas, and my own TV on certain bands, if the DVD
player is hooked up.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 17:28:47 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
Message-ID: <1020323162844.QAA25155@gate.iterated.com>
On 4/13/02 12:42 PM, Ron Notarius WN3VAW at wn3vaw@fyi.net wrote:
>My experience was exactly the opposite -- I had a lot of DX stations (I
>stopped counting at 30) ask me to put them on the cluster.
Isn't ASKING to be put on the 'cluster in itself, a violation of the
rules?
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From w2up at mindspring.com Tue Apr 23 21:45:59 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <2091E0D4.66C90F65.00004183@cs.com>
Message-ID: <3CC5C807.4420.D4E7EF@localhost>
No, it's not a fair test. There are too many variables, and the causal
relationship of one variable vs. another is not adequately isolated. You
would need ops of SO1R vs. SO2R selected randomly to do an
unbiased study. However, this doesn't happen in the real world, as
SO2R is correlated (I didn't say 100% correlated, but definitely
correlated) with the better and more competitive ops (yechh, I hated
statistics in college).
Using your analogy, let's compare scores of ops using Kenwood vs.
Yaesu radios. If one group does better, does that mean we should have
separate categories for each mfr. of radio?
73,
Barry W2UP
On 23 Apr 2002 w0uo@cs.com wrote:
> Contesters:
>
> Dennis' suggestion is right on.
>
> The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to include it in
> contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage exists
> within just a few months.
>
> If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect between
> SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two
> major contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year to
> require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. If
SO2R is the cause of an advantage, one would expect the advantage to either be
substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
>
> Sound like a fair test?
>
> 7i3 de Jim
> W0UO/5
>
>
> Dennis Vernacchia <n6ki@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >Dick,
> >
> > ? ? ? ? I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
> >suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
> >already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
> >advantage.
> > ? ? ? ?
> > ? ? ? ?I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
> >the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
> >That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
> >will seee that the
> >top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
> >that is
> >due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
> >
> >Bottom line, just list it in results.
> >
> >73, Dennis ?N6KI
> >
> >On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
> >writes:
> >> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >>
> >> Most recent WPX SSB
> >>
> >> SO AB (A) HP
> >>
> >> NV4X ? ?2880 Q ?960 PFX ?33 HRS ?7.58M
> >> WZ7ZR 1836 Q ?749 PFX ?32 HRS ?2.78M
> >>
> >> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> >> fact that
> >> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> >> is not a
> >> separate classification.
> >>
> >> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> >> current
> >> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. ?I would do it but
> >> unfortunetly
> >> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >>
> >> Dick W7ZR
> >>
> >> Price Reduced!!
> >> Vacation or Retire Here
> >> It's Paradise on the Beach
> >> www.w7zr.com
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >>
> >
> >
> >73,
> >
> >Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
> >
> >________________________________________________________________
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Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From aa4ga at hemc.net Tue Apr 23 18:05:12 2002
From: aa4ga@hemc.net (aa4ga@hemc.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <2091E0D4.66C90F65.00004183@cs.com>
Message-ID: <3CC59448.22411.3CA20D@localhost>
On 23 Apr 2002 at 13:46, w0uo@cs.com wrote:
> The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to
> include it in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an
> advantage exists within just a few months.
Uh, who says SO2R isn't an advantage? Of course it is to those doing
it, or they wouldn't be doing it.
Having computer logging is an advantage over paper logging and a
memory keyer.
A memory keyer is an advantage over a non-memory keyer.
A non-memory keyer is an advantage over a bug.
A bug is an advantage over a straight key.
A straight key is an advantage over jamming two wires together.
Some folks don't have the typing skills to utilize the computer
logging advantage, and some folks don't have the multi-tasking skills
to utilize the SO2R advantage.
Why should there be separate categories for SO2R if not for different
keying methods?
If we try hard enough, I'm sure we could come up with enough
categories so that everyone can win one!
SO2R isn't new...it's just that it's easier to implement with off-the-
shelf tools than it ever has been. I wonder if early contesters
fought over whether or not there should be different classes based on
homebrew vs. commercial radios? They probably would have if they'd
had the CQ-Contest reflector!
We've been through all this before, and I'm sure we will again.
73 de Lee
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 18:14:26 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Spotting
Message-ID: <1020323171423.RAA28493@gate.iterated.com>
On 3/20/02 9:48 AM, w5gn from earth to swbell at w5gn@mxg.com wrote:
>I don't understand this "fear about flooding the
>spotting network" - if you are S&P'ing to generate
>spots, and working them, 60 an hour is hot and
>insignificant in volume, I would think.
If 1000 people S & P at 60/hr, that's 60,000 spots/hr -- many of them
likely redundant. I've seen lots of redundant spots. I think a few of
them are people trying to announce who they've managed to work.
>Do you run a node, and if so, is volume a problem?
I do not run a node. However, volume can be a problem, especially during
a contest.
>And if you filter out your 15:30 spot, because
>you spotted that station at 15:00, then I'll
>never see that station if I come to that band at
>15:31 because of your posting filter.
Possibly. There's always the case that you "just missed" an important
spot. The only solution there is to crank up your spotting connection
before the contest and leave it up.
The fundamental problem is that there's no replication of spots -- if you
aren't connected when the spot goes out, you miss it. (Unless your node
has a memory, and then you are limited to the depth of that memory)
There are programmatic solutions to this sort of problem, but it would
require some changes in the nature and formatting of the spots -- not
likely to happen.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 23 16:11:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Ontario QSO Party - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204232211.g3NMBCe29111@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Ontario QSO Party - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve3sre@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Ontario QSO Party
Ontario DX Assoc
PO Box 161 Station A
Willowdale, Ontario M2N 5S8
Canada
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
HFSSB LP
VE3BUC 3 195 104 24,675
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
VE3DC 965 1526 294 24 448,644 Other (specify when
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
SOABMixed LP
VE3STT 102 231 152 87,248
VA3WN 62 152 125 10 41,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
SOABMixed QRP
VA3TTT 118 113 114 17 45,578 U-VE Contest Club
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3OZO,VE3RZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 23 16:12:00 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204232212.g3NMC0Q29120@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: mqp@contesting.com
Mail logs to:
Mad River Radio Club
c/o Dave Pruett
2727 Harris Road
Ypsilanti, MI 48198
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/M HP
K8AA 302 560 102 89 11 222,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Mobile LP
K8MR 655 199 63 54 12 176,553 MRRC
WT9U/M 530 123 58 48 11 124,974 SMC
K5OT/M 205 77 51 32 40,421 SMC
K8IR 242 42 55 21 11 39,976 M&MARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op HP
N9RV 145 89 58 37 6 36,005 SMC
K4BAI 110 38 56 23 20,382 SECC
K8DX 76 95 77 0 4 19,019 MRRC
VE7FO 38 16 25 12 5 3,404
W4SAA/4(@W1CW) 45 0 30 0 3 2,700 FCG
K1KI 16 0 14 0 1 448 YCCC
VK2CZ 0 1 0 1 1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op LP
K8KHZ 74 311 39 90 12 59,211 Hazel Park ARC
K8SIA 185 120 56 51 7 52,430 MRRC
K7SV 166 100 64 42 11 45,792 PVRC
AD1C 157 49 72 31 10 37,389 YCCC
NY1S 118 45 63 23 11 24,116
KN4Y 150 0 73 0 12 21,900 FCG
K8GL 104 0 35 0 3 11,330 MRRC
N2CU 63 37 30 19 3 7,987 Western NY DX Assn
NF4A 52 32 32 15 6,392 FCG
WN6K 40 25 22 14 3,780 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op QRP
N9NE/8 201 67 0 0 12 54,873 Fond du Lac ARC
K3WW 82 19 47 14 6 11,163 FRC
Operators:
K8AA K8AA,KB8ECG,NU8Z
K8IR K8IR,KG8CX
K8MR K8MR,W8DRZ
>From k4ww at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 19:33:02 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <1020323143645.OAA13428@gate.iterated.com>
Message-ID: <006501c1eb16$d49c3760$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
"Bill Coleman" <aa4lr@arrl.net> wrote, among other things: "Further,
consider the efforts of Fred, K3ZO. He manages to hold his own
quite nicely with just one radio."
While I agree, I have yet to see a plaque or certificate for "1st Place,
Holding Your Own"!
Shelby, K4WW
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 23 16:33:23 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 EU Sprint, CW/SSB - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020423153218.00a5b0c0@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 EU Spring Sprint, CW - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 5, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Paolo Cortese, I2UIY
PO Box 14
27043 Broni (PV)
Italy
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 148 4 148
M0TTT 136 4 136
LY2OX 132 132 LDXG
UY5ZZ 124 124 UCC
K1KI 23 1 23 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
9A6XX 110 3 110 WWYC
YL2PN 61 3 61 Latvian CC
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
9A7P(9A6XX) 126 3 126 WWYC
I2WIJ 55 1 55
EI/G4BUO 32 1 32
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 23 16:50:38 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 EU Sprint, CW/SSB - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020423154942.00a55ec0@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 EU Spring Sprint, CW - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 5, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Paolo Cortese, I2UIY
PO Box 14
27043 Broni (PV)
Italy
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 148 4 148
M0TTT 136 4 136
LY2OX 132 132 LDXG
UY5ZZ 124 124 UCC
K1KI 23 1 23 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
9A6XX 110 3 110 WWYC
YL2PN 61 3 61 Latvian CC
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
9A7P(9A6XX) 126 3 126 WWYC
I2WIJ 55 1 55
EI/G4BUO 32 1 32
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Tue Apr 23 16:51:18 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <cb.211a4d32.29f72b81@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002901c1eb19$6561c2e0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Right idea, but the wrong definition. 8 radios and 8 towers wouldn't even
be competitive as a multi-multi station. But SO8R, now you're talking!
----- Original Message -----
From: <ALANNOTTAGE@aol.com>
To: <kr6x@kr6x.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 14:26
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> How about FOR - 'full-on radio' i.e 8 radios and 8 towers!!!!
>
> Al G0XBV
>
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Tue Apr 23 17:11:22 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <2091E0D4.66C90F65.00004183@cs.com>
Message-ID: <005701c1eb1c$3a95ec00$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Well, the problem with this line of thought is that if SO2R
did not provide a significant advantage, the results would still
probably look like it did. Only those who are already scoring
near the top of the listings would consider spending the extra
money for a second transceiver, a second amplifier, any
filters required, etc., and then doing the extra work of
separating feedlines, stacked antennas, and system grounds
plus running the extra radio interface cables from the logging
computer to the transceivers. Adding a good transceiver plus
amplifier, SO2R box, etc., costs money that most hams would
more effectively spend on improvements to the antennas. So
even if SO2R cost a few points in the contest rather than
adding to your score you'd still see only the high scorers with
"SO2R" next to their contest results.
----- Original Message -----
From: <w0uo@cs.com>
To: "Dennis Vernacchia" <n6ki@juno.com>; <w7zr@citlink.net>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:46
Subject: RE: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> Contesters:
>
> Dennis' suggestion is right on.
>
> The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to include it
in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage exists
within just a few months.
>
> If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect between
SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two
major contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year
to require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. If SO2R is
the cause of an advantage, one would expect the advantage to either be
substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
>
> Sound like a fair test?
>
> 7i3 de Jim
> W0UO/5
>
>
> Dennis Vernacchia <n6ki@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >Dick,
> >
> > I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
> >suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
> >already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
> >advantage.
> >
> > I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
> >the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
> >That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
> >will seee that the
> >top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
> >that is
> >due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
> >
> >Bottom line, just list it in results.
> >
> >73, Dennis N6KI
> >
> >On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
> >writes:
> >> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >>
> >> Most recent WPX SSB
> >>
> >> SO AB (A) HP
> >>
> >> NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> >> WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> >>
> >> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> >> fact that
> >> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> >> is not a
> >> separate classification.
> >>
> >> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> >> current
> >> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> >> unfortunetly
> >> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >>
> >> Dick W7ZR
> >>
> >> Price Reduced!!
> >> Vacation or Retire Here
> >> It's Paradise on the Beach
> >> www.w7zr.com
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >>
> >
> >
> >73,
> >
> >Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
> >
> >________________________________________________________________
> >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO!
> >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less!
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>From W0uo at cs.com Tue Apr 23 22:52:08 2002
From: W0uo@cs.com (W0uo@cs.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <81.1ab4fdd4.29f769c8@cs.com>
KR6X,
With all due respect, lets look at what I said:
The quickest way to expose {an advantage, or lack thereof}, is to include it
in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage exists
within just a few months.
>
> If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect between
SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two
major contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year
to require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. (If SO2R is
the cause of an advantage}, one would expect the advantage to either be
substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
>
> Sound like a fair test?
Now, lets state two hypothesis. H0: SO2R is not a significant advantage
in contesting. H1: SO2R is a significant advantage in contesting. Testing
these hypotheses requires an experimental design. The simplest design, but
not the only one and maybe not the best, is to run two contests, one with
current rules, one with a 3 minute band change limit for both SO1R and SO2R.
I could, but will not here, state a decision rule. It should be easy for
anyone with a background in statistics. Suffice it to say, if factors other
than SO2R are more significant, it will be born out in the measurements.
There is no other way to end this argument. Them that have want to keep
it that way, them that do not want to (or cannot) invest the extra $3,000 or
so that it takes to SO2R right want it changed.
It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a significant advantage.
Its time we found out.
73 de Jim
W0UO/5
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Apr 23 23:02:07 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4 Days to go
Message-ID: <002c01c1eb34$0993ea40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
NO5W penned the following:
From: "Charles Sanders" <no5w@txucom.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
Jim --
The Michigan group posted routes for the mobiles just prior to the test.
Will that be done for FQP? Good to see all of that orange on the website.
CU this weekend hopefully with better conditions than the MiQP.
73/Chuck/NO5W
>>Five days until the Florida QSO Party - hopefully we will get some better
>>conditions than our friends in Michigan and Ontario had this past weekend.
>>(sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
>>away - K4OJ)
The proposed routes for all the mobile teams are listed on the FQP web page -
when you get to the home page click on top of the:
Counties On The Air
text/"button"....
And Brett...yeah I might say something like 364 days til come Monday, but I
guess what I am ttying to say is that I will not be as frequent a visitor to
your in box as I have been since the WPX!
Chuck, and others are encouraged to go to the website for the FQP, its:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
Surf it - it really is good stuff...
4 Days til you can make me stop e-harassing you - all you have to do is work us
in the FQP
73,
Jim, K4OJ
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Apr 23 23:13:52 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R - is it fair?
Message-ID: <003501c1eb35$ae39c460$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
I think
WPR
will suffice :-) as an abbreviation for the Puerto Rico advantage...what is
interesting however is that WP3R can be beat...and not from the Carribean.
K1TO did it a couple of years ago - yes, there is no doubtr there is some major
advantage to being the "DX" in a domestic contest....but after talking wiht a
number of guys who have done SS from KP4 they do not exactly have a cake walk
when the bands go long on Saturday night....
As far SO2R being unfair - I go back to my yearly speach - it is one set of
gray cells versus another set of gray cells in single operator (and may the
finest tuned gray cells win)...i.e. - I don't care if it is SO6R as long as it
isn't assisted operation the winner is the one who has taught his brain to best
process as much information asd possible to maximize his score. And yes,
someone who can juggle multiple radios like N5TJ or K1TO can has a definate
advantage over my brain cells which aren't as good....and I also can't shoot
billiards as well as K1TO but I am not asking him to spot me a few balls in 8
ball, either.
If a guy can tune a rig with each and and each foot, send with both hands, type
with one hand on two different keyboards and run CW pileups at over 300 per
hour - congratulations to him for maximizing the human brain and he deserves to
be the winner...
Do not create a category for this - unless you want to create a category for
state of the art rigs with DSP versus those without...and Prntium computer
logging versus older DOS 486es, etc...
Its about the operator...the really good ones can juggle it all and still tell
you you logged somehting wrong via a talk message at a multi-op...I have seen
K1TO correct my callsign logging errors in the middle of a JA run - he was
running over 150 an hour at the time....
Its the operator....PERIOD.
K4OJ
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>From k4ma at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 24 00:39:38 2002
From: k4ma@nc.rr.com (Jim Stevens)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEDPDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Message-ID: <008b01c1eb41$ac92fbc0$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com>
Wow!
I didn't expect to be the subject of a CQ-Contest expose'.
Before I am crucified, let me provide some data / facts.
I operated the contest using TR-Log. For those of you familiar with TR-Log,
if one
has it configured correctly it will provide you with an estimate of the
number of 2nd
radio QSOs. I did have it configured that way, and TR-Log says I made 96
2nd radio
QSOs. My experience says that TR-Log underestimates the number of 2nd radio
QSOs
by some amount, so I did the following.
TR-Log marked QSOs by radio 1 with "A" and QSOs by radio 2 with "B". I used
a DOS
editor with some old, but advanced editing capabilities to count the number
of "B" QSOs.
There were 176 2nd radio QSOs by this count. I also counted the number of
mults worked
by the 2nd radio which were 111. Obviously some of these I would have
worked regardless,
but just using 176 and 111, my claimed score with SO2R would have been (with
the same points / QSO):
2704 X 849 = 6.29M which is still considerable ahead of the gentleman making
the original
post. If anyone would like to see a copy of my log, just e-mail me.
Let me describe my massive SO2R station. I have a single 100 feet high
Rohn-25G tower
which supports at the top a TH-6 and 40-2CD which are rotatable. I have a
2nd TH-6
side mounted but fixed on Europe at 50 feet. I have 80M and 160M inverted
vees hanging
from the tower. I have a WX0B Six-Pack antenna switch which allows me to
switch any
of the antennas to either radio. I have 2 ICE Model 419 bandpass filters
which provide
my only interstation interference reduction. The "run" station is a
FT-1000MP with an
AL-1200 amp. The "mult" station is a Kenwood TS-440S with a Clipperton-L
amp.
I have a Dunestar audio switch box, and a home brew (yes, I do know how to
solder a
little) box for switching the mike audio. Everything is manually switched
(WE9V, the king
of automatic switching, is like a God to me).
If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't support separate categories
for SO2R.
SO2R is hard! I like to think I am a much better SSB op than CW (I know
that may
not be saying much) but because of that I rarely push SO2R that hard in CW
contests
except Sweepstakes (where Sunday rates are so slow) and NAQPs (where it is
not
quite as tough). Even in SSB contests, where I think I know what the hell I
am doing
at least half the time, I don't push SO2R as hard as I should because it is
tough to do.
It is a lot of work. I admire the SO2R masters like (to name a few) N6TR,
N5TJ, K5ZD.
But I don't think I should have a different category than them just because
of SO2R.
A final comment since I am on my soapbox. Why the hell did I do Assisted
especially
in WPX? Good question.
First, in this particular contest, I knew that I had some other commitments
that would
keep me from being 100% focused on the contest.
Second, I enjoy packet. I like watching the spots come across. I still
chase DX. I enjoy
chatting with others during the test. I spent some time during this test
chatting with K4JA
on antennas projects at his station and conditions during the test. All
things that would not
have been possible without packet.
73, Jim NV4X (K4MA operator)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
To: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>; "cq-contest"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:20 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> I suspect if NV4X was SO1R he would have *only* had about 2800 x 950 for
> 7.0M...
>
> More variables here than you can see in the score listings.
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Richard Zalewski
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 17:38 PM
> > To: cq-contest
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> >
> >
> > How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >
> > Most recent WPX SSB
> >
> > SO AB (A) HP
> >
> > NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> >
> > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> > fact that
> > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that
> > SO2R is not a
> > separate classification.
> >
> > I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in
> > a current
> > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> > unfortunetly
> > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >
> > Dick W7ZR
> >
> > Price Reduced!!
> > Vacation or Retire Here
> > It's Paradise on the Beach
> > www.w7zr.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
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>From kr1g at hotmail.com Wed Apr 24 05:19:08 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This -TLAs
Message-ID: <F18KoBCsBNq0mzjvJiA0000b0b0@hotmail.com>
I think I must disagree, although only slightly. TLA stands for three letter
"acronym", not abbreviation. And SO2R, while effectively a TLA, is truly a
AN4T - an alpha numeric 4-tuple, which is *far* more powerful.
And the FQP doesn't truly recognize the effects of true-north, just magnetic
north. Thats why they don't have a seperate category for Florida natives.
Man its a long time till WPX CW (soryy Jim, I'll be away from home for the
Freestyle QSO Party!)
73
Ted, ex-KR1G (I think)
>From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com>
>To: "cq-contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>In the world of computers the ubiquitous use of "TLA's" has
>been dominating the ideology of descriptive language for
>many years. Of course, "TLA's" stands for "three letter
>abbreviations". The theory goes like this: if something isn't
>important enough to be abbreviated until only the people to
>which it is important can understand it, then it's insignificant.
>
>Having personally pioneered the use of two transceivers at
>W6HX over 30 years ago (no, I don't pretend to have been
>the first contester to do this, only that I wandered into the
>frontier unassisted), I knew when the TLA "SO2R" came
>into widespread use that numerous competitors who had
>previously considered the practice insignificant would
>henceforth and forever after see "SO2R" as being somehow
>fundamentally different from single transceiver operation.
>
>Oh, yes, I realize that "SO2R" isn't 3 letters, it's 3 letters and
>a number. Right. Sure, I'll be getting flamed on the list for
>that. But many "TLA's" aren't really three letters. Consider
>"MM" for "multi-operator, multi-transmitter", "MOST" or
>"MS" for "multi-operator, single transmitter", and "M2" for
>"multi-operator two transmitter". Those are categories, aren't
>they?
>
>It's funny that the more important issues in the competitive
>position that contesters can attain aren't given the important
>attention that they deserve. Oh, sure, one contest now has
>a tribander and dipoles category that you can actually enter,
>and there is even a category for inexperienced operators
>somewhere in the immense structure for contests. But these
>divisions in the contest world can never separate us quite
>adequately until we have "TLA's" for each of them. I'm
>sure that everyone will agree that we need some additional
>"TLA's" to describe every facet of top notch competition
>that separates us from reaching the top rungs of the contest.
>Both the "good" and the "bad" issues require "TLA's".
>
>For instance:
>
>W5WMU's station has numerous towers. While most of
>the operators in the November SS have dipoles on 40 and
>80 meters, they often don't realize that a station like
>W5WMU can have upwards of 6 full sized 40 meter beams
>of 3 elements or greater - two stacked 3 elements pointed
>at the Eastern seaboard, two pointed at the mid-west, and
>two pointed at California. And, with one of the world's top
>CW operators (N6TR) running SO2R you'd think a station
>like that would always come out on top.
>
>But NO!
>
>WP3R always comes out on top. We need a "TLA" and a
>separate entry category for WP3R. I'm going to suggest
>"WP3R".
>
>Here are a few more suggestions, and I hope I'm not the
>only guy on the reflector who has ideas on this matter:
>
>PN - Pencil Nightmare - enters every contest without
> computer logging
>PPC - Pirate's his Packet Callsign - Why do guys log
> onto the internet/packet spotting nets with an inactive
> operator's call during contests instead of their own?
>TBD - Tri-Bander and Dipole? No! Tower Blew Down!
>SSF - Single Sideband Filter only, no narrow CW filter
>OF2R - Occupies run Frequency silently while chasing
> multipliers on the second station - this can be a single
> operator or a multi-operator multi-transmitter habit
>HC - Happy Camper - MM station who, at 0000z, starts
> calling "CQ contest" on 21,251 USB with 4 stacked
> 7 element yagis pointing at Europe and remains there
> continuously for the next 48 hours. Implies OF2R.
>TMC - Too Many Computers - No, these are the
> neighbor's computers and television sets that put out
> terrible RF radiation on all bands
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
>To: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>; "cq-contest"
><cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 18:20
>Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>
> > I suspect if NV4X was SO1R he would have *only* had about 2800 x 950 for
> > 7.0M...
> >
> > More variables here than you can see in the score listings.
> >
> > Randy, K5ZD
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Richard Zalewski
> > > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 17:38 PM
> > > To: cq-contest
> > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> > >
> > >
> > > How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> > >
> > > Most recent WPX SSB
> > >
> > > SO AB (A) HP
> > >
> > > NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> > > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> > >
> > > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> > > fact that
> > > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that
> > > SO2R is not a
> > > separate classification.
> > >
> > > I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in
> > > a current
> > > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> > > unfortunetly
> > > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> > >
> > > Dick W7ZR
> > >
> > > Price Reduced!!
> > > Vacation or Retire Here
> > > It's Paradise on the Beach
> > > www.w7zr.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
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>From kr6x at kr6x.com Tue Apr 23 22:33:51 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <02c101c1eb49$3cb4daf0$ede3c23f@KR6X.ORG>
Frankly, from your first sentence this last message
from you shows a misunderstanding of my post.
"cause and effect"
One can show that there is a statistical relationship between
higher scores and SO2R.
I'll not deny that. It's going to be a fact. You'll see that the
average SO2R score is considerably higher than the
average single rig entry.
But to equate the score difference between single rig entries
and SO2R entries to the advantage to be gained by going to
SO2R shows the intent to use statistics to deceive.
In a double-blind test I'm confident that it could be
demonstrated that the average top 20 entrants in any
contest could benefit from adding SO2R capability or
alternatively would suffer a score reduction if his SO2R
capability was eliminated.
But the score difference would be only a few percent, and
for many operators that are less motivated and/or less
capable than the average top 20 entrants there could even
be a significant score reduction resulting from the fatigue
that sets in within several hours of the beginning of the
serious SO2R operation. For this significantly large group
of operators, the effort required to get the most out of a
station with SO2R capabilities will tire them until they
become somewhat befuddled, and will begin to operate
inefficiently. They'll often lose run frequencies they'd
otherwise have controlled or become impatient and
angry whenever they run across duplicate contacts.
The second receiver will distract them until they miscopy
exchanges that they should have received. SO2R will
cause all but the very best operators to drain their
mental capacities until they struggle to do the
things that would have been easy for them. They
just can't keep up the pace.
With the average modern new transceiver price being
around $3500-$5000, the modern competitive amplifier
new price $2500-$4000, and the remaining hardware
required to go to full SO2R around $500-$1000, the
price of adding SO2R capability to an existing station
can range between $7500 and $10,000. Admittedly,
it can be done for less. But most competitors see the
investment as being better spent on improving antennas.
If budgetary constraints are included, then a double-
blind test would probably show that the decision to go
to SO2R results in significant score reductions.
----- Original Message -----
From: <W0uo@cs.com>
To: <kr6x@kr6x.com>; <CQ-CONTEST@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> KR6X,
>
> With all due respect, lets look at what I said:
>
> The quickest way to expose {an advantage, or lack thereof}, is to
include it
> in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage
exists
> within just a few months.
> >
> > If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect
between
> SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run
on two
> major contest with current rules, change the rules for the
subsequent year
> to require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. (If
SO2R is
> the cause of an advantage}, one would expect the advantage to either
be
> substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
> >
> > Sound like a fair test?
>
> Now, lets state two hypothesis. H0: SO2R is not a significant
advantage
> in contesting. H1: SO2R is a significant advantage in contesting.
Testing
> these hypotheses requires an experimental design. The simplest
design, but
> not the only one and maybe not the best, is to run two contests, one
with
> current rules, one with a 3 minute band change limit for both SO1R
and SO2R.
> I could, but will not here, state a decision rule. It should be
easy for
> anyone with a background in statistics. Suffice it to say, if
factors other
> than SO2R are more significant, it will be born out in the
measurements.
> There is no other way to end this argument. Them that have want
to keep
> it that way, them that do not want to (or cannot) invest the extra
$3,000 or
> so that it takes to SO2R right want it changed.
> It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a significant
advantage.
> Its time we found out.
>
> 73 de Jim
> W0UO/5
>From kl7ra at blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov Wed Apr 24 09:36:01 2002
From: kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov (KL7RA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <008401c1ebae$2001a4a0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
On 4/23/02 7:01 AM, Ivo PEZER, 5B4ADA at 9a3a@spidernet.com.cy wrote:
>SO2R is just one of the latest developements that have caused many concerns.
Bill replies:
>SO2R is not a recent development. SO2R operating is decades old.
I had a complete two station setup in the 60's, so2r switching and all.
Unfortunately it was used for instant band hopping as I never acquired
the skill to tune a second radio for mults while sending CW with my
right hand.
It was the PC and SO2R software, most probably TRLog, that added
any clear cut advantage to having the second radio. Even then it takes
an additional skill requiring a lot of practice to operate everything
efficiently.
My guess is the top ten ops would stay in the top ten with or without
whatever advantages comes their way by technology. I don't see Jeff or
Dan taking a big dump in the standings anytime in the future because of
something "new". I see guys like that always looking for whatever skill or
equipment it takes to keep up or ahead of the pack.
In my opinion it's probably best not to dumb down the contest community
by rule changes but to encourage station and operator improvements.
The major rule changes will come soon enough. Contests will go to 24 hour
weekends, due busy lifestyles and packet spots will be okay for everyone,
due to enforcement issues.
73 Rich KL7RA
Snowed all weekend, zero degrees F last night. Come on Dayton...
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Wed Apr 24 08:42:14 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Message-ID: <3CC661D6.E4CC558F@gte.net>
Didn't anyone really READ Dennis' post? WHERE did he say anything about
a seperate category for SO2R? I just reread it, and still don't see it.
He wrote:
"I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on the
reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized."
Just something in the results to show who is and isn't using SO2R - NOT
A SEPERATE OR NEW CATEGORY. It's already on the 3830 reporting form ...
what's the big deal on adding an * after a printed result?
Seems like it's a big secret or something!
73, Ron WD4AHZ
SO1R, by choice AND necessity (and no, I don't want a new category. I'd
just like to know how I compare to my "peers" - and maybe smile when I
happen to beat a SO2R - or is THAT what has everyone so worried?)
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Wed Apr 24 08:48:12 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
References: <000001c1eae9$f1c58da0$6401a8c0@EMOCSANDER>
Message-ID: <3CC6633C.C1667475@gte.net>
Charles Sanders wrote:
> The Michigan group posted routes for the mobiles just prior to the
> test. Will that be done for FQP?
Go to the "On The Air" page on the FQP Web site. There you'll find a
listing of the mobiles and what counties they plan to be active from
(listen for them to sign /CTY, to let you know what county they are
currently in), as well as some of the fixed stations who will be on.
Ron, WD4AHZ
>From ums at nconnect.net Wed Apr 24 08:06:21 2002
From: ums@nconnect.net (Gary Sutcliffe)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <E17014E-0005OT-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
References: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20020424070621.00707cb0@mail.nconnect.net>
Radio contesting is unfair. Someone with better antennas, radios, location,
etc. will always have an advantage over an equivalent operator with a
lesser station. That's life. Or, maybe it is just a natural part of a
competition that encourages innovation.
The one thing about SO2R is that just writing a check and adding SO2R
capabilities to your station will not give you the automatic improvement
that other equipment upgrades would. You have to put the effort in to learn
to do it effectively. IMHO, SO2R is the major change in contesting that is
mostly based on operator skill.
I think we should applaud those who put the effort in to operate SO2R
effectively. We should also applaud those who work to improve other
contesting skills like pulling weak ones out of the noise, better typing
skills, better pileup techniques, better run skills, better S&P skills,
etc. I don't see a whole lot of difference.
73 - Gary, W9XT (whose limited moves into SO2R have probably cost more
QSO's than they gained :-)
____________
Gary Sutcliffe, W9XT Unified Microsystems
ums@nconnect.net PO Box 133
http://www.QTH.com/w9xt Slinger, WI 53086
>From ha1ag at compuserve.com Wed Apr 24 12:01:05 2002
From: ha1ag@compuserve.com (Zoli Pitman HA1AG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Rome & Lisbon
Message-ID: <001d01c1eb8a$d7dec680$33112a1f@Libertel>
Hi,
After a few days of leisure (hopefully FQP can be included! :) ) I'll be on
the road again. I'll be in Rome, Italy between 6 and 12 May, and in Lisbon,
Portugal between 1 and 9 June.
I'd like to use this trips to meet local hams so if U're interested in
having a beer (or more) and have a chat about contesting send me an emailto
ha1ag@compuserve.com.
73 de Zoli HA1AG
>From ve4xt at mts.net Wed Apr 24 08:42:41 2002
From: ve4xt@mts.net (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
Message-ID: <007101c1eb8d$86131c40$0100a8c0@joe>
First off, let me state I do not run SO2R, so this is not about protecting
any turf.
I don't believe SO2R warrants a separate category. W7ZR's analysis -- so
statistically flawed on so many levels I can't imagine anyone would base an
argument upon it -- simply shows one station in the promised land of
propagation laying a big old can of whupp-ass on a station in a
propagationally challenged area. No big surprise there.
Is there an advantage to SO2R? Perhaps, though it seems the jury is still
out. Sure, stations will claim to have made 100 QSOs or 200 QSOs on the
second radio. But even that is not valid statistically unless you make those
QSOs net of QSOs lost on the main radio while fiddling with SO2R.
Nobody has even ventured to speculate on QSOs lost, though SO2R continues to
be popular so obviously people think there's an advantage.
Some SO2R foes are in la-la land if they think that running two radios means
doubling their QSO count. Not even close.
But is the advantage to SO2R any different than the ability to copy several
streams of CW at once. Clearly, ops with that ability have a large operative
advantage over ops who struggle to copy one stream of CW at once. Do we
create a separate category for them?
Is the advantage to SO2R any different than the advantage granted an
operator whose internal SSB filters work better than the next guy's? Do we
create a separate category for them?
Is the advantage to SO2R any different than the advantage granted an
operator whose ability to pick bandswitch times is better than the next
guy's? Do we create a separate category for them?
How about the operators with the innate ability to find run frequencies
almost instantly?
(Oh, and don't bring in the economic argument, please. It's simply not
relevant. First, you can borrow the other radio. It doesn't need its own
amp. It doesn't need its own set of 5/5/5/5/5/5 yagis. You can homebrew your
way past the connectivity issues. Second, if you're going to apply
economics, then why not apply economics to the case of the ham who's
struggling to keep his FTDX400 on the air versus the guy who's FT 1000 MP
Mark V just arrived? Or the guy who's pair of homebrew 811s can't hold a
candle to an Alpha 87s pair of 8877s? SO2R is an ability that's practised
and honed over countless hours of operating. It can't be bought.)
I think the proposal to create a separate category for SO2R amounts to a
lowering of standards and marginalizes operators for doing what we really
want them to do -- be the best ops they can be.
If you would like to self-identify as SO1R, and have a separate category for
that, I wouldn't complain. I think, that like the tribander-single element
class, it would be OK to allow ops to opt out of the big leagues if they
choose. That would be democratic. Fair. Reasonable. And it wouldn't lower
the standards in the main category. I also suspect, that much like the
number of ops who would qualify for T/S don't choose that category, you'd
have ops with one radio who choose not to self-identify as SO1R.
There's a romantic quality to being a giant-killer. I wouldn't want to see
that taken away by forcing the giant into a different arena.
73, kelly
ve4xt
>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Wed Apr 24 10:45:01 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jay Pryor <jpryor@ARCHES.UGA.EDU>
To: SECC@contesting.com
Subject: [SECC] Eyes and Contests
I'm passing this along so you will be aware of this possibility . . .
For the past four or five years when I operated in contests, I got blurred
vision. Not just blurry vision but vision that is seriously blurred -- to
the extent that it would be dangerous to operate a car, which I have
done. About a month ago I was diagnosed as having glaucoma. This week I
learned that I have intermittent acute angle glaucoma. The onset is caused
by dilated pupils. When the pupils are dilated for long periods of time,
like when I'm sitting in a fairly dark room in front of radios, pressure
builds in my eyes and blurred vision results.
The good news is that it can be fixed. In fact the kind that I have is the
only form of glaucoma that can be fixed. The eye doc fixed the right eye
yesterday with a laser and will treat the left eye on Friday. This is a
rare condition, but if you get seriously blurred vision when you contest
for long periods of time you might want have your eyes checked by an
ophthalmologist. In fact it isn't a bad idea anyway.
FWIW,
Jay/K4OGG
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>From nf4a at knology.net Wed Apr 24 11:01:00 2002
From: nf4a@knology.net (NF4A)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NF4A/M Route Plans for FQP
Message-ID: <NEBBKJEIHCNOJGJPHIDLMEOGEMAA.nf4a@knology.net>
Saturday starting in ESC then, SAN,OKA,WAL,HOL,WAG,JAC,GAD,LEO,JEF,MAD and
as far east on I-10 as possible with POSSIBLE excursion to SUW and HAM.
Sunday starting in BAY then, GUL,CAL,LIB,GAD,LEO,WAK,JEF,TAY,LAF,DIX, then
back thru to FRA (finishing contest in FRA so I can go have a cold beer with
N4PN at St. George Island in FRA)
40-10 Meters SSB and CW
Charlie NF4A/9A5PC
>From N5RP at pdq.net Wed Apr 24 11:06:28 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020424095929.00b37588@pop.pdq.net>
At 09:45 4/24/2002 -0400, Bill Fisher, W4AN wrote:
>I'm passing this along so you will be aware of this possibility . . .
>
>For the past four or five years when I operated in contests, I got blurred
>vision.
<snip>
=========================>
Yes, as Bill mentions, the torture on the eyes from hamming in front of
computers presents some real dangers and problems to our aging community.
I've done some research on this very problem for my own benefit, and my
wife, for my benefit, has done some looking around for information on the
subject, as well.
Before I dare get in trouble for "impersonating" a professional by
mentioning what I came to discover on the subject, are there any
professionals out there in the commercial interior design or medical arena
that might wish to comment on the ergonomics of a properly designed station
layout as it applies to eye strain and eye damage to our aging contest
community?
.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Wed Apr 24 16:12:16 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
In-Reply-To: <200204241446.g3OEk49F015354@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020424150421.00a91f00@pop.pacific.net.hk>
K4OJ continued:
>And Brett...yeah I might say something like 364 days til come Monday, =
>but I guess what I am ttying to say is that I will not be as frequent a =
>visitor to your in box as I have been since the WPX!
But if you don't, I'll probably cock things up & miss it... so keep up the good
work, mate.
Already have 280 bhp taxi with total nutcase driver booked & seat closest to
first exit door on B747-400 Combi reserved for fast exit upon arrival in HKG
in hopes I can be back home in time to defend the all-time greater China record
in FQP...
I trust others have their FQP plans equally sorted & will be ready to rock 'n
roll this weekend!
73, BW2/VR2BrettGraham
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 24 09:38:56 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FYI - Virus Address Spoofing
In-Reply-To: <001301c1eb11$ee1e0240$6401a8c0@Workgroup>
References: <8aabcucrdvnpph3ouob7g5cb0hka7oc61k@4ax.com>
<000201c1eb04$380a9a20$8266fea9@telepac.pt>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020424082102.00a5a120@pop3.eskimo.com>
FYI - just as a trivial interest
A lot of mail has been going around about the latest
virus behavior and address spoofing. Got a good example
of it in the 3830 administration hold box this morning.
A post FROM "3830-request" TO "3830".
3830-request would never originate mail - it is used
for incoming list administration requests. You would normally
post TO "3830-request". Obviously, some one has both these
addresses in their address book and the random combination
finally popped up.
So, the moral is (if there is one), watch who you
accuse of sending viruses. :>(
73 and have good day
dink, n7wa
>From n2mg at contesting.com Wed Apr 24 11:58:09 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL Contest Rate Sheet
Message-ID:
<20020424105810.23676.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
It seems that for about a month or so, the ARRL has
been publishing the "Contest Rate Sheet" bulletin (in
electronic form). It's available via email (to ARRL
members) and on the web:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/rate-sheet/
Ward Silver, N?AX is editing it.
Seems to be a part of the web-presence arsenal of
contesting resources which the League is developing.
Did I miss its announcement or what?
________________________________________________
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>From kq2m at mags.net Wed Apr 24 15:07:38 2002
From: kq2m@mags.net (Robert Shohet)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R Nonsense
Message-ID: <000701c1ebba$eb9c0680$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
This thread is almost as old as SO2R itself and keeps coming up every year.
OK, here it is:
1) SO2R is an advantage over SO1R, but ONLY for those operators who gain
more with the 2nd radio than they lose on the 1st radio. REREAD THAT
PLEASE!
Many people try SO2R, discover that it's tougher than they thought and
really mess up with the first radio (as well as the 2nd radio), get
flustered and really tired and frustrated, and LOSE SCORE compare to simply
being SO1R. Plus the discouragement they feel REDUCES their energy level
and their score further.
IMO, computer logging was a quantum leap over paper logging, and in my case,
I KNOW that computer software has helped increase my efficiency and score
FAR MORE than adding a 2nd radio ever did! Despite that, the contest
sponsors didn't see fit to put create a new category for computer loggers -
they were right NOT to do so.
Sure software costs less than a 2nd station, but you can borrow a 2nd radio
and amp and it costs a lot less to build a wirebeam that it does for
computer software!
2) This $5,000, - $10,000 for SO2R is TOTAL NONSENSE! While I don't doubt
that some have spent this and more, I started with a USED TS830, USED SB220
and a few wire antennas.
Total cost MAYBE was $1,200, and that was 15 years ago. Today you could buy
them for less. Heck, someone would probably give you the TS830 for FREE!
What does it cost to build a 20 M Inverted V out of spare wire and RG8X?
$10? The computer that I used was a really slow 286. It would have cost
more to throw it away than to use it!
Even as recently as 4 years ago, I was still using a TS940 and SB220 with a
few wire antennas as my 2nd radio. Good enough to beat quite a few
Northeastern good ops with stacks and real SO2R capability and come in 3rd
in ARRLDXCW SOABHP Unassisted and finish in the top-ten in ARRLDX and CQWW
each year. As many have said, SKILL COUNTS!
3) I still DO NOT use automatic ant/radio/amp switching. I have some of the
stuff I need but I never installed it. I'm not sure that it will be durable
enough and I don't have the time to install it. IT IS NOT NECESSARY for
competitive SO2R, but it sure makes it more fun and more efficient if you
have it.
So spend (or don't spend) all the money you want, but understand that MONEY
ALONE does not change the standings. A great opr at a decent station will
almost always beat a decent opr at a great station!
4) Competitive SO2R is primarily about skill building, operating efficiency
and challenging yourself. Operating 2 radios (or more) is a skill that is
developed. While some may be born with more inherent talent than others (no
different than athletes, musicians, or anything else), a real "pro" takes
pride in it, works at it and seeks to find new things to do to aid the
operation. The more you push yourself, the better your skills get, and the
more often you push yourself, the more consistent the improvement and the
higher the baseline level of skill available for next time.
I haven't nearly maxed out my skill level yet. If I gave it as much time as
I do my career, I would probably be an order of magnitude better at it with
that much LESS effort. I can't wait to hear when someone has managed to
"perfect" a really efficient SO3R. I don't think it has happened yet, but I
am sure it will and I will applaud it when it does!
5) I won't address all the other areas covered, but suffice it to say that
life is unfair and contesting is unfair. There will NEVER be a level
playing field: there will never be equal propagation, or equal disposable
income, or equal location, or equal time flexibility, or equal anything -
that's just how it is. So, I try to focus on a few key things:
1) Having fun
2) Improving myself and my skills
3) Competing with myself, and
4) Talking with my friends
IMO, that's really all that should matter, and leads to maximum enjoyment.
I can NEVER win SS Phone from Connecticut, but I can still enjoy operating
in it (one of my favorite contests) and I won't ask for the contest sponsor
to create a new category to give me a better chance to win.
Someone can go to a big station in Nev or PR and make 30% more q's and score
than me, SO WHAT?
If they can use 8 radios and increase that to 40% more q's than me , SO
WHAT? They should be congratulated for their extra effort!
I know, that's not how everyone feels. That's simply my opinion. I leave
the judicious use of categories to the contest sponsors.
In the meantime, and as the debate rages on, please remember that what
matters most is to get on, operate and try to have fun.
73
Bob KQ2M
>From n2mg at contesting.com Wed Apr 24 12:31:53 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Tue, 23 April 2002, W0uo@cs.com wrote
> It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a
> significant advantage. Its time we found out.
This is the wrong question.
No one said that SO2R was not an advantage. From what
I've read, most agree that it is a significant
advantage. Anything that provides a detectable
improvement to one's score is a "significant"
advantage - IOW, one worth undertaking. If it wasn't
an advantage, why would anyone bother doing it?
The right question is: Does SO2R warrant a separate
category (and why)? The number of things providing
(significant or otherwise) advantage is virtually
endless and they have been listed here ad nauseum.
Virtually none of them have a distinct category. Why
does SO2R stand out in some minds? I sense it is not
simply because it offers an advantage. To me it
almost seems like it is simply because it is a
politically-correct-to-question operating technique.
Is it a bolt-on advantage like an amplifier? No, SO2R
requires a high degree of skill to use. Is it like
packet? No, all advantages from SO2R come from within
one's own efforts. Is it like having big antennas
(which generally have no separate category)? No, most
of the work required to extract an advantage from big
antennas is done well before the contest period.
73 Mike N2MG
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>From n5nj at gte.net Wed Apr 24 15:17:55 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (Bob Naumann - N5NJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FYI - Virus Address Spoofing
References: <8aabcucrdvnpph3ouob7g5cb0hka7oc61k@4ax.com>
<000201c1eb04$380a9a20$8266fea9@telepac.pt>
<5.1.0.14.1.20020424082102.00a5a120@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <00f001c1ebc4$c536b9e0$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
I have been receiving these types of notices for several weeks.
They all have a ham "theme" to them, in that many of the emails are hams.
So, someone, probably one of the contesting community, has an email virus on
their machine running rampant.
Several of us have communicated about it and we all know that it's not our
machines.
The virus that does this is called:
KLEZ.E.WORM
It uses the:
MIMEEXPLOIT.IFRAME
weakness of Outlook and Internet Explorer.
The w32.klez.e@mm virus, also known as the "Klez" virus, is a mass mailing
e-mail worm that copies itself to network shares and distributes itself to
all of the Address Book entries on the affected computer's Outlook Address
Book.
You can read about it here:
http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q316658
These things are real, and if you don't have up-to-date virus protection, it
might be your computer doing it.
I thought SPAM was bad enough, now I get all of these rejected email
messages.
73,
N5NJ
----- Original Message -----
From: <mwdink@eskimo.com>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>;
<list-owners@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:38 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FYI - Virus Address Spoofing
> FYI - just as a trivial interest
>
> A lot of mail has been going around about the latest
> virus behavior and address spoofing. Got a good example
> of it in the 3830 administration hold box this morning.
>
>
> A post FROM "3830-request" TO "3830".
>
> 3830-request would never originate mail - it is used
> for incoming list administration requests. You would normally
> post TO "3830-request". Obviously, some one has both these
> addresses in their address book and the random combination
> finally popped up.
>
> So, the moral is (if there is one), watch who you
> accuse of sending viruses. :>(
>
> 73 and have good day
> dink, n7wa
>
>
>
>
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>From k0hb at earthlink.net Wed Apr 24 20:32:58 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?iso-8859-1?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <012a01c1ebbe$768006e0$1a11be3f@bigguy>
W0uo@cs.com wrote
> It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a
> significant advantage. Its time we found out.
Of course it's an advantage, just like being able to copy QRQ code is an
advantage.
In other words, it's a skill and skilled people have an advantage.
I'm not an SO2R guy, in fact I have trouble being an SO1.5R guy (I have a Drake
R4C on a multiband vertical to tune for mults).
Until I decide to master the skill, the SO2R guys are gonna do better than me.
That's my problem, and their advantage. So be it!
(???) 73, de Hans, K0HB
--
1943 Poster Child for The National Precocious Little Bastard Campaign
>From tree at kkn.net Wed Apr 24 13:37:01 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Larry Tree Tyree N6TR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020424123701.B31963@kkn.net>
> I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on the
> reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized."
>
> Just something in the results to show who is and isn't using SO2R - NOT
> A SEPERATE OR NEW CATEGORY. It's already on the 3830 reporting form ...
> what's the big deal on adding an * after a printed result?
I would like to point out that the CW Sprint lists the number of band
changes for the top ten stations. This easily shows who is using two
radios and how much they are using it.
Typically, one or two of the top ten are using one radio - with six or
less band changes. There are typically one or two stations up over 100
band changes in the same four hours.
Tree N6TR
tree@kkn.net
>From w2up at mindspring.com Wed Apr 24 16:55:31 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020424095929.00b37588@pop.pdq.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <E170SrW-0004AP-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
On 24 Apr 02, at 10:06, Bob, N5RP wrote:
> At 09:45 4/24/2002 -0400, Bill Fisher, W4AN wrote:
> >I'm passing this along so you will be aware of this possibility . . .
> >
> >For the past four or five years when I operated in contests, I got
> >blurred vision.
> <snip>
> =========================>
> Yes, as Bill mentions, the torture on the eyes from hamming in front
> of computers presents some real dangers and problems to our aging
> community.
>
> I've done some research on this very problem for my own benefit, and
> my wife, for my benefit, has done some looking around for information
> on the subject, as well.
>
> Before I dare get in trouble for "impersonating" a professional by
> mentioning what I came to discover on the subject, are there any
> professionals out there in the commercial interior design or medical
> arena that might wish to comment on the ergonomics of a properly
> designed station layout as it applies to eye strain and eye damage to
> our aging contest community? . Bob Perring
> ........................................... Amateur Radio Station
> N5RP mailto:N5RP@pdq.net N5RP Station Page:
> http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>
Ergonomics of computer use - nothing earth-shattering here. The
monitor should be at eye level, not above. This is more to prevent
neck problems than eye problems. The focusing muscles in the
eyes contract to focus close up, such as on a monitor. This does
no harm, but may lead to "eyestrain" or headache. The focusing
muscles relax to their resting state when you look across the room
- not a bad idea to do this periodically. If you are over 40-45, and
you don't wear glasses, you probably will need them for extended
close work. If you do wear glasses already for distance, you
probably will need correction for close work.
Glaucoma - Glaucoma is a disease of optic nerve damage that can
lead to blindness without treatment. There are many kinds of
glaucoma. The most common type is open-angle glaucoma
(90+%). It is slowly progressive over months to years. In its early
stages, it is usually without symptoms. By the time you notice a
"blind spot" in your vision, about 90% of your field of vision is gone
and cannot be recovered. It is usually treated with eye drops,
sometimes with laser, sometimes with surgery.
Narrow (or closed) angle glaucoma is much less common, but is a
medical emergency, often leading to blindness within a few days, if
not treated. Symptoms may include pain, redness, blurry vision
and headache. It most often occurs in dim lighting, such as movie
theaters and ham shacks. The "glaucoma attack" may be initially
treated with medication, then followed by laser, which is usually
curative.
2% of Americans of European descent have glaucoma. 10% of
Americans of African descent have glaucoma. It often runs in
families, but not necessarily.
If you are over 40, have your eyes examined every 2 years, even if
you have no problems with them. If you are diabetic, make that
every year.
73,
Dr. Barry, W2UP
Disclaimer - I am an ophthalmologist licensed to practice medicine
in PA and NJ. This e-mail is general information only and should
not be interpreted as medical advice or the practice of medicine.
--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From tree at kkn.net Wed Apr 24 13:56:13 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree N6TR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
Message-ID: <200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
But - with the exception of the Poisson D'Avril contest on the
first, there just doesn't seem to be much going on.
It really makes it hard for us two radio guys to keep our skills
in shape.
At any rate - if anyone does know of any contests coming up this
weekend, that might not be well publicized, please let me know.
Maybe the Podunk Stew Perry Kid's QSO Party Sprint or something...
73 Tree N6TR
tree@kkn.net
>From ford at cmgate.com Wed Apr 24 16:09:15 2002
From: ford@cmgate.com (Ford Peterson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <000801c1ebcb$ea1026a0$13ed83d1@office>
Mike Gilmer wrote:
>
> The right question is: Does SO2R warrant a separate
> category (and why)? The number of things providing
> (significant or otherwise) advantage is virtually
> endless and they have been listed here ad nauseum.
> Virtually none of them have a distinct category. Why
> does SO2R stand out in some minds? I sense it is not
> simply because it offers an advantage. To me it
> almost seems like it is simply because it is a
> politically-correct-to-question operating technique.
>
SO2R is to contesting what running two fishing lines is to a fishing
contest. Two radios does not double the Qs. It may however double your
score. Chasing down mults while running a frequency is not rocket
science--especially when the run rate slows. Checking activity on other
bands with one radio requires giving up a run frequency.
Comparing a station with two radios to a station with one radio is not a
fair comparison. Comparing a station with a beam and a dipole is very
comparable to a station with 6 mono banders. In each case, only one antenna
gets used at a time.
SO2R is more akin to multi-multi operation than a multi-single. To compare
SO2R to a single op-single radio is quite unfair. There is nothing
"political" about it. It's simple physics, rudimentary probabilities, basic
ergonomics.
SO2R should be a category on its own, just like the "assisted" notion we now
embrace as "logical."
Ford-N?FP
ford@cmgate.com
>From Jimk8mr at aol.com Wed Apr 24 17:21:49 2002
From: Jimk8mr@aol.com (Jimk8mr@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <1a7.14b8401.29f86ddd@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/24/02 3:00:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
n2mg@contesting.com writes:
> Why
> does SO2R stand out in some minds? I sense it is not
> simply because it offers an advantage. To me it
> almost seems like it is simply because it is a
> politically-correct-to-question operating technique.
SO2R stands out in my mind not because it lets a person run up a bigger score
than would, say, a huge antenna farm, but because it leads to different
operating techniques that while great for the user are not so great for the
rest of contest community.
For years one had to, from time to time, abandon a run frequency to find the
many multipliers - mainly operations that are the only activity from that
country - who would never answer a USA station's CQ. This would then open up
a frequency that would be up for grabs for the first person who happened to
arrive there.
With SO2R the savvy operator just keeps CQing away, while finding and working
those mults on his second radio. That run frequency never becomes available
for anyone else.
For a number of years this may have been a managable problem, since automated
CQing was confined to CW, where there is just about always a little more room
at the top of the band. When voice keyers arrived on the scene in SSB
contests, SO2R became a bigger problem because there is never just a little
more room above 14350 or 21450.
SO2R is a natural evolutionary outcome of the quest for bigger and better.
It's great for the guys who can equip a station for it and use it well. For
the rest of us, forgive us if we aren't so excited by it. Tuning up and down
a band listening to the same guys CQing gets old quickly.
Check out the phone DX contests in about 4 years when we don't have 900 KHz
of useful spectrum on 28 MHz...
That said, I see nothing to be gained by making it a separate category. I
see no harm in making available the information on who is using it.
Jim K8MR
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Wed Apr 24 21:23:55 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R Nonsense
In-Reply-To: <000701c1ebba$eb9c0680$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
Message-ID: <000301c1ebcd$f636bcd0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
> I can't wait to hear when someone has managed to "perfect" a
> really efficient SO3R. I don't think it has happened yet, but
> I am sure it will and I will applaud it when it does!
Hey, s51ta did so6r here for wpx ssb this year and did pretty good for
his first try at it. There are just a few little bugs to work out and
it should be all ready for a real workout in a future contest! For one
he has to stretch his arms a bit to reach all the stuff, but once I get
all the autotune amps and auto turning antennas in place it should be
much easier. The biggest improvement will be when someone makes a
contest logger that will talk to all 6 radios at once. Then a so6r
headphone switcher with spatial separation of the 12 audio channels
would be nice, it would make the audio mixing look a bit less like a
recording studio. Think about that for a while, put 20m front and
center, 15m to the left, 10m to the right, then distribute 40m, 80m ,
and 160m above or below them, add virtual reality goggles and an eye
position sensor to pan you to the band you want to concentrate on, just
think of the possibilities!
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Wed Apr 24 17:29:17 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (James Jarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] blurred vision
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOELNDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Acute angle glaucoma.....I was diagnosed with it in my left
eye a couple of years ago, and had it treated. The right eye
is monitored regularly; the opthalmologist recommends
laser surgery, just to avoid the possibility of a problem.
As I understand it, this is a normal condition of aging for
a significant percentage of the population. Fluid in the
eyeball normally leaks out through ducts at the periphery
of the cornea. Those ducts get pinched in narrow-angle
glaucoma. This results in pressure building up.
In turn, this can limit blood flow to the retina..and ultimately
cause blindness.
W4AN observed that it's made worse under darkened room
conditions, when the pupils dilate. This is true,
but it doesn't cause the condition, as I understand it.
The normal aging process results in the eye changing shape,
which poses the problem.
The risk is that ocular pressure can build quickly under
some conditions.....like going to 9,000 feet pressure,
which is normal cabin pressure in a commercial jet plane.
The risk of loss of retinal cells due to lack of blood
flow is serious....blindness can result.
If you're over 40, you should ask about acute angle
glaucoma when you have your eyes regularly checked.
W2OX, himself an MD Opthalmologist, recommends glasses
for contesting that give you a wide field of view, at
the normal equipment distance. This will reduce fatigue,
keeping you in the chair longer.
Jim Jarvis
n2ea
>From n5nj at gte.net Wed Apr 24 16:34:03 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (Bob Naumann - N5NJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <81.1ab4fdd4.29f769c8@cs.com>
Message-ID: <014001c1ebcf$73e61260$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
It IS an advantage - but only to those who can do it well! There is no
need for any further analysis.
Heck, I run SO2R from home with my TH3jr at 15' and my vertical. It's cool,
but I'm not going to win anything from here so, it would be meaningless in
the summary.
SO2R requires more skill - not just more equipment.
If all that was required was more equipment, I could stack up six rigs and
guarantee an SS win - right?
Wrong!
I find myself agreeing with KQ2M on this.
N5NJ
----- Original Message -----
From: <W0uo@cs.com>
To: <kr6x@kr6x.com>; <CQ-CONTEST@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> KR6X,
>
> With all due respect, lets look at what I said:
>
> The quickest way to expose {an advantage, or lack thereof}, is to include
it
> in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage
exists
> within just a few months.
> >
> > If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect
between
> SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two
> major contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year
> to require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. (If SO2R
is
> the cause of an advantage}, one would expect the advantage to either be
> substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
> >
> > Sound like a fair test?
>
> Now, lets state two hypothesis. H0: SO2R is not a significant
advantage
> in contesting. H1: SO2R is a significant advantage in contesting.
Testing
> these hypotheses requires an experimental design. The simplest design,
but
> not the only one and maybe not the best, is to run two contests, one with
> current rules, one with a 3 minute band change limit for both SO1R and
SO2R.
> I could, but will not here, state a decision rule. It should be easy
for
> anyone with a background in statistics. Suffice it to say, if factors
other
> than SO2R are more significant, it will be born out in the measurements.
> There is no other way to end this argument. Them that have want to
keep
> it that way, them that do not want to (or cannot) invest the extra $3,000
or
> so that it takes to SO2R right want it changed.
> It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a significant advantage.
> Its time we found out.
>
> 73 de Jim
> W0UO/5
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>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Thu Apr 25 00:46:48 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
References: <Springmail.0994.1019003831.0.22034700@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
<005a01c1e5f3$d6c23530$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Message-ID: <023401c1ebd1$28b33550$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Today I got an impressive letter from Dick Norton, N6AA, member of CQWW
Contest Committee. He clearly showed me that I was was wrong in my
assumptions about mistakes in log checking and all the decisions of the
Committee were VERY CLEARLY reasoned and VERY WELL analyzed.
I want to apologize for any possible indirect accusations I made and for any
doubts I had in the accuracy of the log checking procedure. Iam more than
convinced now that this is an enormous job those guys are doing and I am
very impressed by the standards they have set and by the methods they use.
It goes far beyond what we see in UBN and NIL reports!
Dick clearly explained me that I was the only station working LY3BH actually
as the others were clear -Bs and it was quite certain that LY3BH was not in
the air. I confirmed it also having exchanged some emails with LY stations.
EA8ZC was actually us duping EA8ZS (the duplicate contact was in EA8ZS log!)
He proved me that several other -Bs that were worked by many stations
besides us were really with no doubt -Bs!
He admitted that F8BTQ was probably correct QSO and credit for it will be
restored in the
final run that will determine the score listed in the magazine. That was
probably one of the only errors in the log checking.
He also pointed my attention to the several U calls that should actually
have been marked -B!
There were some 20 of them! I guess you all have been thinking while looking
at the U calls in the UBN report that "Was I really the only one to work
this station or did I mess up the call but was just lucky to hit an existing
one???!!!" Well I have thought so and it felt like a gift of some kind
always!
So the actual subject of my intial posting should have been: "We submitted
the ES9C log with almost 10,000 QSOs, and it had one contact that appeared
to be incorrectly marked -B. There were at least 20 claimed QSOs that should
have been marked -B, but were not"
:)
So no more whining about the UBNs, lets try to be more accurate ourselves
and big thanks to those guys who have been striving to make our favourite
contest what it is!
73
Tonno
ES5TV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tonno Vahk" <tonno.vahk@mail.ee>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
> As far as UBNs were mentioned I might say that I noticed quite a few -B
> calls in our ES9C M/M UBN report that were actually absolutely fine and
> existing calls and had been worked by many stations - 30, 40, or even
more.
> There was seemingly no reason to determine them -B (no Wn or anything). I
> know for sure some of them were OK QSOs as I even remember them. Like my
> first QSO on 20m -
>
> 1 -B ly3bh(3) ly3by(1224)ww ly3bx(850)n ly3be(644)ww ly3bg(108) w3bh(2)
>
> It's a well-known contester from LY and we even chatted a few words in the
> beginning of the contest. He has only made a few QSOs as I suspect he
worked
> in some M/S team maybe...
>
> Another example on 20m:
>
> 2183 -B f8btq(17) f8bqq(552)h f8bdq(21) f8bvq(8) hb9btq(147) py7btq(6)
>
> and on 10m:
>
> 269 -B ea8zc(5) ea8zs(4250)ww ea8zz(12) ea8jc(7)
>
> It is a bit irritating actually, don't know if anybody else has noticed
> it...
>
> 73
> Tonno
> ES5TV
>
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>From hwardsil1 at mindspring.com Wed Apr 24 18:45:17 2002
From: hwardsil1@mindspring.com (hwardsil1@mindspring.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Honor Sprint - Not This Year
Message-ID: <Springmail.0994.1019684717.0.01296800@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
After inquiring about interest in running an Honor Sprint in May, I only got a
handful of responses, so I am not going to sponsor an Honor Sprint this year.
Sorry about that!
One idea that did come up was that of running a "doubleheader" sprint, with 2
hours on 10-15 in the morning and 2 hours on 20-40 in the evening. I might do
that some other time.
73, Ward N0AX
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Wed Apr 24 16:06:18 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <00c601c1ebdc$43c019c0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Mike --
Beyond the issue of whether SO2R deserves a category by itself
there's a new one that is seldom mentioned.
If a contest sponsor were to create an SO2R category, then would
there be any way to enforce it? Or could the sponsor simply be
creating a new way to cheat?
Admittedly, if the two rigs are on two different bands one could
draw inferences from the number of bandchanges that occur.
But SO2R can be implemented using two rigs and two antennas
on the same band in a few cases. It might sound far fetched on
the surface, but the cross-rig interference potential isn't completely
insurmountable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:31
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> On Tue, 23 April 2002, W0uo@cs.com wrote
>
> > It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a
> > significant advantage. Its time we found out.
>
> This is the wrong question.
>
> No one said that SO2R was not an advantage. From what
> I've read, most agree that it is a significant
> advantage. Anything that provides a detectable
> improvement to one's score is a "significant"
> advantage - IOW, one worth undertaking. If it wasn't
> an advantage, why would anyone bother doing it?
>
> The right question is: Does SO2R warrant a separate
> category (and why)? The number of things providing
> (significant or otherwise) advantage is virtually
> endless and they have been listed here ad nauseum.
> Virtually none of them have a distinct category. Why
> does SO2R stand out in some minds? I sense it is not
> simply because it offers an advantage. To me it
> almost seems like it is simply because it is a
> politically-correct-to-question operating technique.
>
> Is it a bolt-on advantage like an amplifier? No, SO2R
> requires a high degree of skill to use. Is it like
> packet? No, all advantages from SO2R come from within
> one's own efforts. Is it like having big antennas
> (which generally have no separate category)? No, most
> of the work required to extract an advantage from big
> antennas is done well before the contest period.
>
> 73 Mike N2MG
>
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>From 107770.3462 at compuserve.com Wed Apr 24 22:26:56 2002
From: 107770.3462@compuserve.com (James P. Cassidy)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Honor Sprint
Message-ID: <200204242127_MC3-FB4C-FF8D@compuserve.com>
OK Ward, Sorry there wasn't more interest. N6TR will just have to put up
with the lack of action. Maybe use the contest simulator.
73 Jim KI7Y
>From n2mg at contesting.com Wed Apr 24 19:29:09 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID:
<20020424182911.27816.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Wed, 24 April 2002, Jimk8mr@aol.com wrote
> For years one had to, from time to time, abandon a
> run frequency to find the many multipliers...
> <snip>
> With SO2R the savvy operator just keeps CQing away,
> while finding and working those mults on his second
> radio. That run frequency never becomes available
> for anyone else.
>
At the risk of not knowing the answer to a question
before I ask it, I wonder how true this is? It would
be good to compare the logs of top SO1R and SO2R
stations and compare the "park time" on a given run
freq.
Although I may be wrong, I suspect, just like the
difference in total score, the effect of SO2R on
frequency occupation is less than some imagine.
SO2R guys are generally NOT working mults on the same
band they are CQing on. So if they are CQing on 10m
and want to hunt mults on 10m (a typical move for an
SO1R guy), most SO2R ops are going to have to start
CQing on 15m - freeing up the 10m run freq. "Savvy"
SO2R guys move around on the bands a lot.
> Tuning up and down a band listening to the same guys
> CQing gets old quickly.
You can't possibly mean to suggest that the SO2R guys
are to blame for this?
> Check out the phone DX contests in about 4 years
> when we don't have 900 KHz
> of useful spectrum on 28 MHz...
This happens every cycle. IMO, there will be little
clear distinction between the zoo that will exist on
20m with or without there being SO2R operations.
> I see no harm in making available the information on
> who is using it.
Let's list all the pertinent info, then - the ARRL
would "only" publish it on the web anyway (where
bandwidth is "cheap"). Let's list all the antennas,
amplifiers, DSP equipment, auto-switching
arrangements, whether or not the operator had his
meals served to him, or had a bathroom within 15 feet
of the shack, etc.
Mike N2MG
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>From ve4xt at mts.net Wed Apr 24 21:46:52 2002
From: ve4xt@mts.net (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
<000801c1ebcb$ea1026a0$13ed83d1@office>
Message-ID: <008801c1ebfb$13dc2e00$0100a8c0@joe>
Comparing SO2R and assisted is not a fair analogy. Packet requires no skill,
involves the assistance of others and makes mult hunting the equivalent of
shooting fish in a barrel.
SO2R requires considerable skill, involves no outside assistance and makes
mult hunting EVEN MORE difficult as singly you must juggle numerous stimuli
while still making sense of what you're sending and what you're receiving,
often in both ears at once.
You can't buy SO2R, no matter how much money you throw at Yaecomwood and
WX0B. This notion that somehow you buy a second radio and all of a sudden
you're God's gift to contesting is patently false. It is very difficult. It
requires an operator to be highly proficient at all we hold dear. To
marginalize their efforts by forcing them into a secluded playing field is
to discourage excellence. Funny how you don't hear the Toronto Blue Jays
demanding that the New York Yankees be placed into a different category.
Now, creating an SO1R category that operators could voluntarily enter --
assuming they are indeed using only one radio -- gives an out to people who
choose, for whatever reason, to compete at a different level while
preserving the high standards of the main single op category. It's a
win-win. People who feel cheated by SO2R can now compete amongst like-minded
individuals while those who want to measure themselves against the best can
continue to do so. I suspect the majority of ops would remain in the main
category irrespective of how many radios they are running.
Remember the category refers to single OPERATOR. Even if he has three
radios, there's still just ONE operator.
> SO2R should be a category on its own, just like the "assisted" notion we
now
embrace as "logical."
Ford-N?FP
ford@cmgate.com
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>From k5ka at earthlink.net Wed Apr 24 21:48:14 2002
From: k5ka@earthlink.net (Ken Adams K5KA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO1R vs SO2R
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20020424204814.006d4ecc@earthlink.net>
This seems to come up every few months and the solution
that is always promoted is to create a new category for
SO2R. Instead of waiting for a sponsor to do that (which
won't happen), why not sponsor a plaque for SO1R ?
That's easy to do in every contest and it is something that
you have under your own control.
Ken K5KA
>From je1cka at jzap.com Thu Apr 25 12:19:26 2002
From: je1cka@jzap.com (Tack Kumagai)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums (JIDX CW)
In-Reply-To: Tree N6TR's message of "Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:56:13 -0700"
<200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
References: <200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <200204250219.LAA24615@ne.nal.go.jp>
In message "[CQ-Contest] April doldrums"
on 02/04/24, Tree N6TR <tree@kkn.net> writes:
:
:
: Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
:
: We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
Oh!! Please do not forget the JIDX HFCW contest in 2nd full weekend.
This JIDX HFCW contest will be JIDX CW contest in 2003.
LFCW(2nd wkend in Jan) and HFCW(2nd wkend in Apr) will be merged
into one CW contest. The complete rule will be announced soon.
---------
JIDX contest committee chairman
Tack Kumagai JE1CKA/KH0AM
Email: jidx-chairman@ne.nal.go.jp
http://je1cka.jzap.com/jidx/
>From k0il at arrl.net Wed Apr 24 23:01:59 2002
From: k0il@arrl.net (Ed - K0iL)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Nebraska QSO Party Reminder
Message-ID: <01C1EBDB.A99405A0.k0il@arrl.net>
Being a little more low key here in Nebraska, this'll be the only last
minute reminder you'll get on the reflector about:
*** The Nebraska QSO Party ***
April 27th & 28th
1700 zulu Saturday to 1700 zulu Sunday
For complete rules, details and paperwork go to:
http://www.qsl.net/hdxa/neqso/
If you live near Nebraska and have mobile HF capabilities, come on over and
have some fun running counties. A ham from Oregon is flying in to operate
portable from Burt County Saturday and Cumming county on Sunday morning.
The rest of ya should just get on the air this weekend and work every
Nebraska Station you run across! You'll feel better afterwards.
Special Nebraska Stations to look out for:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
W7DRA/p - Mike will be portable in Burt & Cumming counties.
KG0KR - Beth. Local mobile op gives out several counties each year.
K0AIR - Strategic Air Command Memorial Club will be operating again from
Douglas County's EOC underground.
K0iL - Douglas County (not rare unless you need it!)
Just Call "CQ N-F QP" or maybe F-N QP. Or if you're lookin' for a real
challenge, just hunt for the NQP stations! But just work it! See you in
the Parties.
73,
de ed -K0iL
HDXA V.P.
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PO Box 375
Elkhorn, NE 68022-0375 k0il@qsl.net
Visit my web site: http://www.qsl.net/k0il
or HDXA's web site: http://www.qsl.net/hdxa
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>From va3uz at rac.ca Thu Apr 25 00:26:29 2002
From: va3uz@rac.ca (VA3UZ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <20020420042905.25369.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00e301c1ec0d$f2970cc0$0201a8c0@yuri>
>
> Yes. All contesters (callsign) will be on culsters.
> The contest program will make a callsign-map per band.
> We can see the call-map on monitor. We will no need
> any hunting (mults, etc.). The logging program will
> know what we needed. Perhaps a "help-program" will be
> able to make some important mults for us WITHOUT US.
> And finally we will no need to fight 40-48 hours non
> stop, it will be enough to check our PC by hours. Or
> it will be enough to push a BIG ENTER at the start of
> the contest...(??) This is the future of contesting.
>
>
> 73
> Zoli
> HA5PP
>
Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be definitely
out of it.
Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
>From tavan at tibco.com Wed Apr 24 22:20:10 2002
From: tavan@tibco.com (Rick Tavan)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
References: <200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <3CC783F9.ACC2FD84@tibco.com>
OK, Tree, your assignment for April is to make the trlog simulator simulate
SO2R.
/Rick N6XI
Tree N6TR wrote:
> Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
>
> We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
>
> But - with the exception of the Poisson D'Avril contest on the
> first, there just doesn't seem to be much going on.
>
> It really makes it hard for us two radio guys to keep our skills
> in shape.
>
> At any rate - if anyone does know of any contests coming up this
> weekend, that might not be well publicized, please let me know.
> Maybe the Podunk Stew Perry Kid's QSO Party Sprint or something...
>
> 73 Tree N6TR
> tree@kkn.net
>From rv1aw at inbox.ru Thu Apr 25 10:22:22 2002
From: rv1aw@inbox.ru (Andrey Karpov)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Praha (OK)
Message-ID: <E170bi2-0009TM-00@f4.mail.ru>
I'm going to be in Praha with wife from 28th April until 5th May for rest.
We'll be staying in "CHODSKA" hotel. I'd love to get together with other
contesters in the area. If you're interested in gathering, please drop me a
mail.
73! Andrei Karpov RV1AW & RU1A
>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Apr 25 05:27:44 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <000201c1ec22$e0d23400$6a3dfa43@computer>
QUACK's
Gosh I'm sure we had this same discussion Last year and The year before
etc:
How many times we gonna have to read this STUFF
Nuff Said Already
Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Sutcliffe" <ums@nconnect.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 13:06
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> Radio contesting is unfair. Someone with better antennas, radios,
location,
> etc. will always have an advantage over an equivalent operator with a
> lesser station. That's life. Or, maybe it is just a natural part of a
> competition that encourages innovation.
>
> The one thing about SO2R is that just writing a check and adding SO2R
> capabilities to your station will not give you the automatic improvement
> that other equipment upgrades would. You have to put the effort in to
learn
> to do it effectively. IMHO, SO2R is the major change in contesting that is
> mostly based on operator skill.
>
> I think we should applaud those who put the effort in to operate SO2R
> effectively. We should also applaud those who work to improve other
> contesting skills like pulling weak ones out of the noise, better typing
> skills, better pileup techniques, better run skills, better S&P skills,
> etc. I don't see a whole lot of difference.
>
> 73 - Gary, W9XT (whose limited moves into SO2R have probably cost more
> QSO's than they gained :-)
>
>
> ____________
> Gary Sutcliffe, W9XT Unified Microsystems
> ums@nconnect.net PO Box 133
> http://www.QTH.com/w9xt Slinger, WI 53086
>
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>From i4jmy at iol.it Thu Apr 25 13:09:05 2002
From: i4jmy@iol.it (Maurizio Panicara)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
References: <Springmail.0994.1019003831.0.22034700@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
<005a01c1e5f3$d6c23530$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
<023401c1ebd1$28b33550$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Message-ID: <002801c1ec41$434354c0$42941a97@i4jmy>
The CQWWDX is definitely my favourite contest also because of the great job
that's behind, the accurate log checking and the respect I've for the huge
effort of the committee.
The weak point in the system is not the log checking procedure, the best
possible, but the fact that known that logs will be analyzed, a number of
logs are actually "revised" (i.e. QSO removed to fit with some rule) and
"corrected" (officially against so called typos, hi) before submission.
I've been told of logs fully rewised with tape recordings, but also
statistically, against databases of previous contests or cross checked with
several logs of the contest in object.
Stated that either behaviours aren't in the rules but exist, it probably
happens that many unique calls (I mean self found uniques) are statistically
corrected into a "most probable call" by many, choosing to correct the
"typo" into a call with higher recurrence in previous contests. Like this,
the same procedure used by many with similar databases, a fake but valid qso
will be created if that station didn't enter the contest at all, or the
"ex-unique" didn't send his log.
In the same way, stated that a removed qso isn't in the log, it's hard to
verify (or prove) that originally it was.
73,
Mauri I4JMY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tonno Vahk" <tonno.vahk@mail.ee>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:46 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
> Today I got an impressive letter from Dick Norton, N6AA, member of CQWW
> Contest Committee. He clearly showed me that I was was wrong in my
> assumptions about mistakes in log checking and all the decisions of the
> Committee were VERY CLEARLY reasoned and VERY WELL analyzed.
>
> I want to apologize for any possible indirect accusations I made and for
any
> doubts I had in the accuracy of the log checking procedure. Iam more than
> convinced now that this is an enormous job those guys are doing and I am
> very impressed by the standards they have set and by the methods they use.
> It goes far beyond what we see in UBN and NIL reports!
>
> Dick clearly explained me that I was the only station working LY3BH
actually
> as the others were clear -Bs and it was quite certain that LY3BH was not
in
> the air. I confirmed it also having exchanged some emails with LY
stations.
>
> EA8ZC was actually us duping EA8ZS (the duplicate contact was in EA8ZS
log!)
>
> He proved me that several other -Bs that were worked by many stations
> besides us were really with no doubt -Bs!
>
> He admitted that F8BTQ was probably correct QSO and credit for it will be
> restored in the
> final run that will determine the score listed in the magazine. That was
> probably one of the only errors in the log checking.
>
> He also pointed my attention to the several U calls that should actually
> have been marked -B!
> There were some 20 of them! I guess you all have been thinking while
looking
> at the U calls in the UBN report that "Was I really the only one to work
> this station or did I mess up the call but was just lucky to hit an
existing
> one???!!!" Well I have thought so and it felt like a gift of some kind
> always!
>
> So the actual subject of my intial posting should have been: "We submitted
> the ES9C log with almost 10,000 QSOs, and it had one contact that appeared
> to be incorrectly marked -B. There were at least 20 claimed QSOs that
should
> have been marked -B, but were not"
>
> :)
>
> So no more whining about the UBNs, lets try to be more accurate ourselves
> and big thanks to those guys who have been striving to make our favourite
> contest what it is!
>
> 73
> Tonno
> ES5TV
>From tautvydas at achema.com Thu Apr 25 14:40:07 2002
From: tautvydas@achema.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tautvydas_Misi=FBnas?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] e-QSL change of policy
Message-ID: <00ad01c1ec4d$f880ebc0$a800a8c0@tautvydas>
I became e-QSL system user a while ago and it worked perfectly up to this
major change done.Sorry,but now my inbox size reached maybe 500 QSO's and I
can do nothing:my attempts to upload ADIF files are vain-just very small
files with less than 100 QSO's get through,larger do not!
E-QSL page became extermely slow,maybe due to sharply increased
attendance.This system needs radical upgrade to use it safely and easily.DAT
and DTA files should be accepted for sure.
e-QSLing is our future definitely and system is in transition now .As
financing to develope it is needed ,subsribtion system must be introduced.
My appologies to the guys who are waiting my return e-QSL,maybe it will
be possible one day...
73 ,Ted,LY2OX
>From k8do at amethyst.diamondcs.net Thu Apr 25 09:01:35 2002
From: k8do@amethyst.diamondcs.net (Dennis O'Connor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
<E170SrW-0004AP-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <002d01c1ec50$f817c250$20996c40@gq7mb01>
An opthalmologist! And here I thought you were a real doctor....
Denny - GP for a quarter century...
<snicker>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
> On 24 Apr 02, at 10:06, Bob, N5RP wrote:
>
> > At 09:45 4/24/2002 -0400, Bill Fisher, W4AN wrote:
> > >I'm passing this along so you will be aware of this possibility . . .
> > >
> > >For the past four or five years when I operated in contests, I got
> > >blurred vision.
> > <snip>
> > =========================>
> > Yes, as Bill mentions, the torture on the eyes from hamming in front
> > of computers presents some real dangers and problems to our aging
> > community.
> >
> > I've done some research on this very problem for my own benefit, and
> > my wife, for my benefit, has done some looking around for information
> > on the subject, as well.
> >
> > Before I dare get in trouble for "impersonating" a professional by
> > mentioning what I came to discover on the subject, are there any
> > professionals out there in the commercial interior design or medical
> > arena that might wish to comment on the ergonomics of a properly
> > designed station layout as it applies to eye strain and eye damage to
> > our aging contest community? . Bob Perring
> > ........................................... Amateur Radio Station
> > N5RP mailto:N5RP@pdq.net N5RP Station Page:
> > http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
> >
>
> Ergonomics of computer use - nothing earth-shattering here. The
> monitor should be at eye level, not above. This is more to prevent
> neck problems than eye problems. The focusing muscles in the
> eyes contract to focus close up, such as on a monitor. This does
> no harm, but may lead to "eyestrain" or headache. The focusing
> muscles relax to their resting state when you look across the room
> - not a bad idea to do this periodically. If you are over 40-45, and
> you don't wear glasses, you probably will need them for extended
> close work. If you do wear glasses already for distance, you
> probably will need correction for close work.
>
> Glaucoma - Glaucoma is a disease of optic nerve damage that can
> lead to blindness without treatment. There are many kinds of
> glaucoma. The most common type is open-angle glaucoma
> (90+%). It is slowly progressive over months to years. In its early
> stages, it is usually without symptoms. By the time you notice a
> "blind spot" in your vision, about 90% of your field of vision is gone
> and cannot be recovered. It is usually treated with eye drops,
> sometimes with laser, sometimes with surgery.
> Narrow (or closed) angle glaucoma is much less common, but is a
> medical emergency, often leading to blindness within a few days, if
> not treated. Symptoms may include pain, redness, blurry vision
> and headache. It most often occurs in dim lighting, such as movie
> theaters and ham shacks. The "glaucoma attack" may be initially
> treated with medication, then followed by laser, which is usually
> curative.
> 2% of Americans of European descent have glaucoma. 10% of
> Americans of African descent have glaucoma. It often runs in
> families, but not necessarily.
>
> If you are over 40, have your eyes examined every 2 years, even if
> you have no problems with them. If you are diabetic, make that
> every year.
>
> 73,
> Dr. Barry, W2UP
>
> Disclaimer - I am an ophthalmologist licensed to practice medicine
> in PA and NJ. This e-mail is general information only and should
> not be interpreted as medical advice or the practice of medicine.
>
> --
> Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>
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>From tgardner at glcc.com Thu Apr 25 09:19:32 2002
From: tgardner@glcc.com (Tim Gardner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Indiana QSO Party - May 4
Message-ID: <scc7bc1e.058@USGSFS01.g-l.com>
Greetings all,
Just a reminder that the Indiana QSO Party is coming
next weekend ? May 4, 2002.
Please check out the completely revamped website at
www.hdxcc.org/inqp for all the details, rules and
links for free logging software.
We know of planned operations that will put about 75%
of Indiana's 92 counties on the air. If you know of
others, please let us know by sending email to
inqp@hdxcc.org. You will find a map showing all the
operations known to us on our web site (check the
"Activity" link).
'73
Tim - N9LF
>From k8do at amethyst.diamondcs.net Thu Apr 25 09:34:10 2002
From: k8do@amethyst.diamondcs.net (Dennis O'Connor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <cb.211a4d32.29f72b81@aol.com>
<002901c1eb19$6561c2e0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Message-ID: <00ba01c1ec55$838fcfe0$20996c40@gq7mb01>
Leigh, like you I am always interested in new ideas... But this one I
love... You run an SO8R and I will follow you around... I can probably make
a good living off the guys answering your run radio that you don't hear on
the first call... In fact, that gives me an idea for a new catagory... Two
station, single frequency contesting... I will call it TS, for short...
Just think of the possibilities... More than one station working a
frequency... Think of the increase in scores...Think of the camraderie as we
all work the same DX station on the same frequency... This would be real
TS...
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com>
To: <ALANNOTTAGE@aol.com>; <CQ-CONTEST@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> Right idea, but the wrong definition. 8 radios and 8 towers wouldn't even
> be competitive as a multi-multi station. But SO8R, now you're talking!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ALANNOTTAGE@aol.com>
> To: <kr6x@kr6x.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 14:26
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>
> > How about FOR - 'full-on radio' i.e 8 radios and 8 towers!!!!
> >
> > Al G0XBV
> >
>
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>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:12:32 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
Message-ID: <20020425141358.NMXQ962.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/24/02 3:56 PM, Tree N6TR at tree@kkn.net wrote:
>Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
Isn't this because Dayton was traditionally held in April?
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From w4au at contesting.com Thu Apr 25 10:10:25 2002
From: w4au@contesting.com (John Unger)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
In-Reply-To: <200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020425090623.00c10c30@gsvaresm01.er.usgs.gov>
Tree -
I think the Florida QSO Party is coming up sometime soon, but that usually
conflicts with Dayton, doesn't it? Also I may be confused after reading all the
messages on this reflector, but I believe that the new FQP rules do not allow
SO2R stations this year unless they append their calls with /SO2R.
73 - John, W4AU
At 12:56 4/24/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
>
>We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
>
>But - with the exception of the Poisson D'Avril contest on the
>first, there just doesn't seem to be much going on.
>
>It really makes it hard for us two radio guys to keep our skills
>in shape.
>
>At any rate - if anyone does know of any contests coming up this
>weekend, that might not be well publicized, please let me know.
>Maybe the Podunk Stew Perry Kid's QSO Party Sprint or something...
>
>73 Tree N6TR
>tree@kkn.net
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>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 25 07:11:28 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID:
<20020425061129.26490.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Wed, 24 April 2002, "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" wrote
> If a contest sponsor were to create an SO2R
> category, then would there be any way to enforce
> it? Or could the sponsor simply be creating a new
> way to cheat?
While a valid point, this would not be unique to an
SO2R category. Almost ALL categories (hell, even your
state/section) are essentially unenforceable.
> Admittedly, if the two rigs are on two different
> bands one could draw inferences from the number of
> bandchanges that occur.
While there is surely a high correlation between the
number and timing of band changes and SO2R operation,
(hell, there is already freeware that proports to tell
one how many "second radio" QSOs were made) it *is*
possible for one radio (even a radio with one VFO knob
like a 940), one autotune amp and automatic antenna
switching to be used to nab QSOs on bands other than
the one being CQed on. Not nearly as efficient or
effective as true SO2R, but the results in the log
would be fairly similar.
My guess is that anyone "cheating" an SO2R rule is out
of the running anyway. I think most guys would be
proud of the fact that they ran it!
> But SO2R can be implemented using two rigs and two
> antennas on the same band in a few cases. It might
> sound far fetched on the surface, but the cross-rig
> interference potential isn't completely
> insurmountable.
While admittedly not trivial, this is definitely do-
able (being done currently by at least one multi-op
station).
73 Mike N2MG
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 25 07:23:26 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
Message-ID:
<20020425062328.27396.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Tonno,
I, too, have had several correspondences with the CQWW
committee and/or log checking folks. Each of the
responses I received was courteous and enlightening.
The more I learned (directly from them and not from
speculation on the reflector), the more I realized
these guys know what the hell they are doing. The
techniques are logical and well constructed. And,
might I add, apparently still very closely scrutinized
by humans.
It's only too bad that they haven't figured out a way
to make a public document describing some of their
techniques without giving away their, excuse the
term, "secrets". They understandably want to avoid
folks attempting to "wash" their logs based on the
criteria.
Mike N2MG
On Wed, 24 April 2002, "Tonno Vahk" wrote
>
> Today I got an impressive letter from Dick Norton,
N6AA, member of CQWW
> Contest Committee. He clearly showed me that I was
was wrong in my
> assumptions about mistakes in log checking and all
the decisions of the
> Committee were VERY CLEARLY reasoned and VERY WELL
analyzed.
>
> I want to apologize for any possible indirect
accusations I made and for any
> doubts I had in the accuracy of the log checking
procedure. Iam more than
> convinced now that this is an enormous job those guys
are doing and I am
> very impressed by the standards they have set and by
the methods they use.
> It goes far beyond what we see in UBN and NIL reports!
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:53:08 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425145434.BEQW12902.imf16bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/24/02 12:33 AM, Leigh S. Jones at kr6x@kr6x.com wrote:
>With the average modern new transceiver price being
>around $3500-$5000, the modern competitive amplifier
>new price $2500-$4000, and the remaining hardware
>required to go to full SO2R around $500-$1000, the
>price of adding SO2R capability to an existing station
>can range between $7500 and $10,000.
Horsepucky.
You don't NEED a NEW transceiver for SO2R. A second-hand radio will do
just fine.
You don't NEED an amplifier for SO2R. If you don't like going barefoot,
even a modest amplifier will provide some cover.
You need some switching, perhaps some filtering, and a second tranceiver.
You can probably add SO2R capability to an existing station for
$500-1000, easily. Maybe to $1500 if you insist on having an amplifier.
If you've already got $10,000 in your station (for the first radio and
antennas), another $1000 isn't much.
Me? I can't afford a $10,000 ham station.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:21:11 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425142237.LNET28927.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/23/02 1:46 PM, w0uo@cs.com at w0uo@cs.com wrote:
>The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to include it
>in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage
>exists within just a few months.
While the contest sponsors don't report it in every case, you'll find
that the forms for the 3830 list DO have a field for SO2R operation.
It wouldn't be hard to correlate the listings on 3830 with the contest
results.
(And what about the RTTY contest guys who run SO3R?)
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 12:06:48 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425150814.TQOW20943.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/24/02 4:09 PM, Ford Peterson at ford@cmgate.com wrote:
>SO2R is to contesting what running two fishing lines is to a fishing
>contest.
Not exactly. SO2R doesn't mean you can transmit on both similtaneously.
You are still constrained to have one transmitted signal on the air at
one time.
It's more like having two fishing lines where only one line is in the
water at a time....
>Comparing a station with two radios to a station with one radio is not a
>fair comparison.
No? I have two radios. (Just built an Elecraft K2) I don't see any
single-radio operators quaking in their boots over it.
>Comparing a station with a beam and a dipole is very
>comparable to a station with 6 mono banders. In each case, only one antenna
>gets used at a time.
Define "used".
And I disagree. A tribander and a dipole is not comparable to multiple
tribanders or monoband antennas. In fact, the CQ WPX committee agrees
with me. That's why they have the TS category. Even so, there's a huge
difference in the "T". A Butternut HF5B isn't comparable to a Force12
C51XR.
>SO2R is more akin to multi-multi operation than a multi-single.
Not at all. Only one transmitted signal. Only one operator. I don't see
any relation at all to the multi-operator categories.
However, a Multi-Single station configuration often makes an adequate
SO2R station.
> To compare
>SO2R to a single op-single radio is quite unfair.
Not at all. It's just one guy with more equipment!
> There is nothing
>"political" about it. It's simple physics, rudimentary probabilities, basic
>ergonomics.
Poppycock.
>SO2R should be a category on its own, just like the "assisted" notion we now
>embrace as "logical."
No! Assisted involves having some other person do spotting of stations
for you. SO2R is ONE guy. UNO! What's worse, he's got more hardware to
manage.
Further, modern radios really confuse the SO2R issue. Is a guy using an
FT-1000 using two radios? The MP can receive in two portions of the same
band, and the FT-1000D can receive on two different bands? The new TenTec
Orion may make the whole situation worse (Unlike the Yeasu, it is unclear
if the Orion blanks both receivers during transmit).
Look again. The category is "Single Operator". The contest sponsors
typically make no mention of how much equipment he is using. So long as
the condition of one transmitted signal at any one time, appropriate
power level, and assistance (or lack thereof), there is no reason to make
a different category just because someone listens to more than one
receiver at a time.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:28:04 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425142930.OYGG15548.imf02bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/23/02 5:05 PM, aa4ga@hemc.net at aa4ga@hemc.net wrote:
>Uh, who says SO2R isn't an advantage? Of course it is to those doing
>it, or they wouldn't be doing it.
Not exactly, Lee. Certainly the operator must perceive it to be an
advantage, or they wouldn't do it. I think it takes considerable skill
for it to be a true advantage. And some SO2R operators don't perform as
well as SO1R operators.
>Some folks don't have the typing skills to utilize the computer
>logging advantage, and some folks don't have the multi-tasking skills
>to utilize the SO2R advantage.
W4AN's comment to me, when I tried SO2R operating in the 1995 SS SSB was
"you can't learn to do this in a single contest." Bill has literally
spent weeks in the shack chair, making casual QSOs on one rig while
listening with on ear to another radio. It's much harder than it sounds.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:46:59 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425144826.QKRA14245.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/23/02 7:11 PM, Leigh S. Jones, KR6X at kr6x@kr6x.com wrote:
>Only those who are already scoring
>near the top of the listings would consider spending the extra
>money for a second transceiver, a second amplifier, any
>filters required, etc., and then doing the extra work of
>separating feedlines, stacked antennas, and system grounds
>plus running the extra radio interface cables from the logging
>computer to the transceivers.
Seems like this is a mis-conception as well. Why do the two stations have
to be equal? Consider - to get benefit from SO2R, do you really need a
top-of-the-line transceiver? Do you really need a second amplifier? Do
you really need equivalent antennas for both stations?
If you already have a very competitive contest station -- do you really
need to double it for SO2R? I don't think so. There's several scenarios.
Consider:
A) The second radio will be used virtually exclusively for S & P. Do you
need an amplifier for this? Seems one could make virtually the same
number of QSOs barefoot S & P as one could with an amp. And if there's
some important multiplier to be had, perhaps bringing radio one to bear
might be worth the trouble.
B) Since you're not calling CQ, aren't you less likely to be digging out
really weak callers on the second radio? Perhaps you don't need such an
elaborate transceiver, or big stacks of antennas. Perhaps just adding a
single tribander and a couple of dipoles would be sufficient, or even one
of those multi-band vertical dummy loads might work. (W4AN used an R5 for
second radio practice) A second-hand radio might do passibly well, or
perhaps a miniature mobile rig. (K4OGG moves his mobile HF radio to the
shack for contests)
C) Can you leverage your existing antenna system? W4AN didn't add a
single antenna to run SO2R at his superstation. Why? He's got a single
feedline for each band. Antennas are easily switched from one radio to
the other. If you already have monoband antennas on every band, you don't
need more antennas.
--
I'm working to add SO2R operation to my very modest station on a tight
budget. I have no amplifier(s). I'm looking to improve my low-power
scores. I recently built a K2 (which will become a K2-100 soon), and
already have an old TS-430S. At low power, I don't appear to need any
filters. Antennas are modest -- an A3S at 49.5', 80m doublet, 40m sloper,
R7000.
I refuse to believe that my modest SO2R configuration is somehow so
competitive that SO1R operators don't stand a chance and need to be moved
to another category.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 25 09:32:57 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
Message-ID:
<20020425083258.27251.h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Tree N6TR wrote:
> Anyone notice how there just aren't any real
> contests in April?
I thought the FQP happened in April. Maybe I'm
wrong... I should look it up somewhere.
Besides, maybe that's not a "real" contest...
OJ? ;-)
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>From n5nj at gte.net Thu Apr 25 11:24:57 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (Bob Naumann - N5NJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
References:
<20020425062328.27396.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <071a01c1ec6d$5c0b0120$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
Mike,
I think this recent thread is doing a great deal to clear up many
misconceptions about the log checking process and the UBN reports.
It seems the three main points that are misunderstood are that:
1) B means 'BAD QSO" and not necessarily a "bad" or non-existent callsign
2) Uniques DO NOT cost you points from your score.
3) If someone else logs your call incorrectly, they lose points - not you.
Regarding number 1, often a callsign is logged which is indeed a good
callsign - but it's marked B because that isn't who you worked!
73,
Bob N5NJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
To: <tonno.vahk@mail.ee>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
> Tonno,
>
> I, too, have had several correspondences with the CQWW
> committee and/or log checking folks. Each of the
> responses I received was courteous and enlightening.
>
> The more I learned (directly from them and not from
> speculation on the reflector), the more I realized
> these guys know what the hell they are doing. The
> techniques are logical and well constructed. And,
> might I add, apparently still very closely scrutinized
> by humans.
>
> It's only too bad that they haven't figured out a way
> to make a public document describing some of their
> techniques without giving away their, excuse the
> term, "secrets". They understandably want to avoid
> folks attempting to "wash" their logs based on the
> criteria.
>
> Mike N2MG
>
> On Wed, 24 April 2002, "Tonno Vahk" wrote
>
> >
> > Today I got an impressive letter from Dick Norton,
> N6AA, member of CQWW
> > Contest Committee. He clearly showed me that I was
> was wrong in my
> > assumptions about mistakes in log checking and all
> the decisions of the
> > Committee were VERY CLEARLY reasoned and VERY WELL
> analyzed.
> >
> > I want to apologize for any possible indirect
> accusations I made and for any
> > doubts I had in the accuracy of the log checking
> procedure. Iam more than
> > convinced now that this is an enormous job those guys
> are doing and I am
> > very impressed by the standards they have set and by
> the methods they use.
> > It goes far beyond what we see in UBN and NIL reports!
>
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>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Thu Apr 25 11:10:49 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL.cc reverses policy
Message-ID: <017c01c1ec73$c413f140$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
April 24, 2002 -- eQSL.cc has removed its double blind requirement on the
eQSL inbox because the ARRL says that it will not accept its eQSLs for DXCC
awards and a large majority of their users wants things put back they way
they were. Read the complete announcement at
http://www.eqsl.org/qslcard/DXCCInfo.cfm
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Thu Apr 25 10:18:23 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Having the PC do all the work..
In-Reply-To: <00e301c1ec0d$f2970cc0$0201a8c0@yuri>
Message-ID: <20020425161823.53145.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com>
--- VA3UZ <va3uz@rac.ca> wrote: ..... it will be
enough to check our PC ..Or it will be enough to
push a BIG ENTER at the start of the
contest...(??) This is the future of contesting.
de k3ft (tongue firmly implanted into right
cheek)
Hit the 'big ENTER'.. let the PC do the work,
read the results at the end'..
This reminds me of a movie in the later 70's
entitled 'Colossus... The Forbin Project'.
73
Chuck K3FT
SO1R.. SO2R... the key.. after all is to
remember.. all the technology in the world CAN'T
beat someone who has experience, ability or a
great combination of both!
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Apr 25 17:59:25 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] e-QSL change of policy
Message-ID: <006b01c1ec72$52d67da0$891dfa43@computer>
Ted
As far as I know the only way eQSL will take files is in ADIF format. One
can also enter them one at at a time into the system on line.
GL and CU in next contest
Quack aka Rex K7QQ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tautvydas Misi?nas" <tautvydas@achema.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:40
Subject: [CQ-Contest] e-QSL change of policy
> I became e-QSL system user a while ago and it worked perfectly up to this
> major change done.Sorry,but now my inbox size reached maybe 500 QSO's and
I
> can do nothing:my attempts to upload ADIF files are vain-just very small
> files with less than 100 QSO's get through,larger do not!
> E-QSL page became extermely slow,maybe due to sharply increased
> attendance.This system needs radical upgrade to use it safely and
easily.DAT
> and DTA files should be accepted for sure.
> e-QSLing is our future definitely and system is in transition now .As
> financing to develope it is needed ,subsribtion system must be introduced.
> My appologies to the guys who are waiting my return e-QSL,maybe it will
> be possible one day...
> 73 ,Ted,LY2OX
>
>
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Apr 25 18:02:37 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <007201c1ec72$a31d0720$891dfa43@computer>
Quacks
OK but Gold nugget?????
----- Original Message -----
From: "K0LUZ" <k0luz@topsusa.com>
To: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 16:40
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
> GROWL!!!
>
> If you disconnect from the mailing list, that seems to drop the number of
> times you have to read it significantly. Otherwise, just endure like the
> rest of us and there might even be a gold nugget in there somewhere.
>
> GROWL!
>
> 73
> Red
> K0LUZ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> QUACK's
>
> Gosh I'm sure we had this same discussion Last year and The year before
> etc:
> How many times we gonna have to read this STUFF
> Nuff Said Already
> Rex
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Sutcliffe" <ums@nconnect.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 13:06
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>
> > Radio contesting is unfair. Someone with better antennas, radios,
> location,
> > etc. will always have an advantage over an equivalent operator with a
> > lesser station. That's life. Or, maybe it is just a natural part of a
> > competition that encourages innovation.
> >
> > The one thing about SO2R is that just writing a check and adding SO2R
> > capabilities to your station will not give you the automatic
improvement
> > that other equipment upgrades would. You have to put the effort in to
> learn
> > to do it effectively. IMHO, SO2R is the major change in contesting that
is
> > mostly based on operator skill.
> >
> > I think we should applaud those who put the effort in to operate SO2R
> > effectively. We should also applaud those who work to improve other
> > contesting skills like pulling weak ones out of the noise, better typing
> > skills, better pileup techniques, better run skills, better S&P skills,
> > etc. I don't see a whole lot of difference.
> >
> > 73 - Gary, W9XT (whose limited moves into SO2R have probably cost more
> > QSO's than they gained :-)
> >
> >
> > ____________
> > Gary Sutcliffe, W9XT Unified Microsystems
> > ums@nconnect.net PO Box 133
> > http://www.QTH.com/w9xt Slinger, WI 53086
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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>
>From k6ll at despammed.com Thu Apr 25 12:25:44 2002
From: k6ll@despammed.com (k6ll@despammed.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] consider this
Message-ID: <200204251625.LAA27938@despammed.com>
Recently, N6TR wrote:
I would like to point out that the CW Sprint lists the number of band
changes for the top ten stations. This easily shows who is using two
radios and how much they are using it.
Typically, one or two of the top ten are using one radio - with six or
less band changes. There are typically one or two stations up over 100
band changes in the same four hours.
--------------------------------
I think Tree has a good idea here
that should be expanded to other
contests.
The number of band changes can be
calculated easily from the
Cabrillo log by the scorers. It is a valuable
statistic, and should be published
in all contest results, especially
now that we are starting to see
Web versions of the results,
with fewer space limitations than
in printed magazines.
For the so2r folks, they can look
at the band change statistic and
compare themselves to other so2r
ops as a measure of effectiveness.
For the so1r folks, they can skip
through the so2r scores, which will
be very apparent from the band
changes, and look at their score
as compared with other so1r entries.
By the way, kudos to the ARRL for
their on-line results for the SS CW.
The database manipulation capability
is great! Now just add the band changes,
and we'll be in hog heaven.
Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
>From n5ia at zia-connection.com Thu Apr 25 10:19:39 2002
From: n5ia@zia-connection.com (Milt Jensen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
<000801c1ebcb$ea1026a0$13ed83d1@office> <008801c1ebfb$13dc2e00$0100a8c0@joe>
Message-ID: <002201c1ec75$0232d8a0$ca01060a@dvec.org>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly Taylor" <ve4xt@mts.net>
To: "Ford Peterson" <ford@cmgate.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
SNIP
> Now, creating an SO1R category that operators could voluntarily enter --
> assuming they are indeed using only one radio -- gives an out to people
who
> choose, for whatever reason, to compete at a different level while
> preserving the high standards of the main single op category. It's a
> win-win. People who feel cheated by SO2R can now compete amongst
like-minded
> individuals while those who want to measure themselves against the best
can
> continue to do so. I suspect the majority of ops would remain in the main
> category irrespective of how many radios they are running.
>
> Remember the category refers to single OPERATOR. Even if he has three
> radios, there's still just ONE operator.
This seems logical to me. This approach would be similar to what is now
done for the Field Day contest (err, Operating Event) where the QRP entries
are allowed to enter different categories (separate score listing) depending
on whether they have a transmitter power source from fossil fueled
mehcanical sources OR they go to the extra effort of planning and
implementation of wind/solar etc. sources of power and battery storage for
all of their TX/RX power requirements. There are no rewards other than the
accomplishment of the feat and the QST report of how your operation compared
to a similarly setup/powered station.
Mis dos centavos, de Milt, N5IA; leading a 4A solar powered QRP effort from
K7EAR at DM52 in AZ this year.
>From w9wi at w9wi.com Thu Apr 25 12:49:14 2002
From: w9wi@w9wi.com (Doug Smith W9WI)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider This
In-Reply-To: <200204251522.g3PFMj9F031838@contesting.com>; from
cq-contest-request@contesting.com on Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 11:22:45AM -0400
References: <200204251522.g3PFMj9F031838@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <20020425114914.D18628@w9wi.com>
> Although I may be wrong, I suspect, just like the
> difference in total score, the effect of SO2R on
> frequency occupation is less than some imagine.
*Something* has affected frequency occupation. It's most blatantly obvious
on 10 meters during CW and mixed-mode contests, when you have people CQing
as high as 28.250. Before SO2R, it was rare (at least in my neck of the
woods) to hear anybody above 28.100 except a Novice or two.
I suppose it's concievable increased activity in Eastern Europe and/or the
AM/SSB intruders are responsible for this. I doubt it - there aren't that
many of either.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
I fear K8MR is right. I've seen situations where I've gone 5-10 minutes
without a QSO in a domestic SSB contest because *everybody* was CQing on 75
- there were no "holes" for a new CQer - and after tuning the band over and
over, literally everybody CQing is a dupe. What's the answer?
- Keep listening to dupes hoping a hole opens up?
- Keep CQing on a dead 20, 40, or 160m band, knowing it could be 10-15
minutes before you get any answers?
- Find a weak station and start CQing, knowing you'll be able to hear
callers through him?
- Start CQing on 75m 3 hours before sunset to ensure you'll have a frequency
when 40 dies?
- Switch to 2m and start DXing on 146.52?
I contest for fun, and #5 is the only one that sounds like fun to me...
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com
>From n7df at zianet.com Sat Apr 27 11:52:57 2002
From: n7df@zianet.com (Larry N7DF)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eyestrain/neckstrain - avoiding of
Message-ID: <002501c1ee0c$2c7b9780$2a7df3d8@n7df>
A study of computer related job stress was done by some Federal Agency several
years back. I think it was NIH, but I'm not sure.
A major part of the eye strain problem was found to be related to spasms in the
neck muscles from holding the head in the wrong position. Generally the
monitor screen should be slightly below eye level. For each person the exact
preferred position can be determined by the following exercise.
While sitting in the chair and position you will normally use while using the
computer, look into an open space about ten feet away.
Hold your right hand, palm towards you at arms length and slowly move it up and
down. You will notice that there is one location where it seems to suddenly
appear the clearest.
Repeat with your left hand. You will probably notice that the clearest
position will be somewhat lower than for the right hand.
Now do this with both hands at once. This should clearly show the difference
in preferred location for each hand.
Set your computer monitor with the bottom of the screen at the location for the
lower hand.
This should reduce the neck strain significantly.
Another thing you can do is get a soft cervical collar from your local drug
store and wear it when you are at the computer for a long period of time.
73
Larry
N7DF
Remember:
E=IR is not just a good idea.
IT'S THE LAW!
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 10:38:38 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251638.g3PGccC30719@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: mqp@contesting.com
Mail logs to:
Mad River Radio Club
c/o Dave Pruett
2727 Harris Road
Ypsilanti, MI 48198
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/M HP
K8AA 302 560 102 89 11 222,324
W8SH 205 356 69 91 11 122,560 MSU Amateur Radio Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Mobile LP
K8MR 655 199 63 54 12 176,553 MRRC
WT9U/M 530 123 58 48 11 124,974 SMC
AA8U 420 74 36 48 12 41,496 MRRC
K5OT/M 205 77 51 32 40,421 SMC
K8IR 242 42 55 21 11 39,976 M&MARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op HP
N8KR 112 670 60 113 12 154,662 MRRC
N9RV 145 89 58 37 6 36,005 SMC
AD8J 103 77 47 36 9 23,489 NCC
K4BAI 110 38 56 23 20,382 SECC
K8DX 76 95 77 0 4 19,019 MRRC
N8II 52 59 27 31 5 9,454 PVRC
VE7FO 38 16 25 12 5 3,404
W4SAA/4(@W1CW) 45 0 30 0 3 2,700 FCG
KW8W 0 50 0 24 2 1,200 MRRC
K1KI 16 0 14 0 1 448 YCCC
VK2CZ 0 1 0 1 1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op LP
N8TC 285 271 81 81 12 136,242 EMARC
K8KHZ 74 311 39 90 12 59,211 Hazel Park ARC
K8SIA 185 120 56 51 7 52,430 MRRC
N8EA 299 0 84 0 50,232 MRRC
K7SV 166 100 64 42 11 45,792 PVRC
AD1C 157 49 72 31 10 37,389 YCCC
W8EDU(AF8A) 136 76 83 20 11 35,844 OkDX
W8RU 173 22 64 15 4 29,072 MRRC
NY1S 118 45 63 23 11 24,116
KN4Y 150 0 73 0 12 21,900 FCG
K8GL 104 0 35 0 3 11,330 MRRC
N2CU 63 37 30 19 3 7,987 Western NY DX Assn
NF4A 52 32 32 15 6,392 FCG
K9NW 64 0 41 0 4 5,248 Sultans of Shwing
WN6K 40 25 22 14 3,780 SCCC
NO5W 39 0 30 0 4 2,340
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op QRP
N9NE/8 201 67 0 0 12 54,873 Fond du Lac ARC
K3WW 82 19 47 14 6 11,163 FRC
Operators:
K8AA K8AA,KB8ECG,NU8Z
K8IR K8IR,KG8CX
K8MR K8MR,W8DRZ
W8SH K8MAS,KB8RWQ,KB8ZGL,KB8ZQZ,KC8JUZ,KC8PUN,KT8X,
W8ELS
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 10:40:02 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Ontario QSO Party - Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251640.g3PGe2U30730@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Ontario QSO Party - Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve3sre@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Ontario QSO Party
Ontario DX Assoc
PO Box 161 Station A
Willowdale, Ontario M2N 5S8
Canada
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
HFSSB LP
VE3BUC 3 195 104 24,675
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
VE3DC 260 705 294 24 448,644 Hamilton ARC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
SOABMixed LP
VE3STT 102 231 152 87,248
VE3MQW 77 158 158 79,632
VA3WN 62 152 125 10 41,000
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
SOABMixed QRP
VE3KZ 134 295 192 20 175,872
VA3TTT 118 113 114 17 45,578 U-VE Contest Club
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3OZO,VE3RZ,
VE3VMO
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 10:59:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251659.g3PGxZl30743@localhost.localdomain>
2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: jidx-hfcw@ne.nal.go.jp
Mail logs to:
JIDX HFCW Contest
c/o Five-Nine Magazine
PO Box 59
Kamata, Tokyo 144
Japan
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
GM4YXI 520 127 14 82,931 North of Scotland Co
ES5QX 511 123 80,688
AE0Q(@K0HM) 452 115 64,400 Grand Mesa
N0AC(@N0NI) 427 110 30 54,780
F5IN 327 107 40,232
OH1F(OH1NOA) 326 100 12 36,100 CCF
N2ED 255 96 7 29,184 FRC
K3WW 224 81 6 21,060 FRC
N6ZZ 192 82 20,910 SCCC
N9RV 161 70 3 15,190 SMC
N6HC 143 72 4 13,320 SCCC
VE7FO 120 70 9 10,780
N4GG 43 34 4 1,972 PVRC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
HB9ARF 259 106 37,630
WN6K 238 88 21 30,008 SCCC
SV1CIB 109 66 9,174
VE3BUC 86 47 4 4,042
WA6BOB 35 33 2 1,155
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/10 LP
OM5AW 466 44 10 20,504
NT6K 127 41 4 10,414 NCCC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/15 HP
UT7QF 392 46 25 17,986 UCC
N1XS(@KB1H) 101 31 2 3,131 YCCC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
I2WIJ 67 32 3 2,144 Marconi Contest Club
>From loumecseri at bestnetpc.com Thu Apr 25 14:17:32 2002
From: loumecseri@bestnetpc.com (Lou Mecseri)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020425090623.00c10c30@gsvaresm01.er.usgs.gov>
Message-ID: <005e01c1ec7d$1705ae80$bb4ad0d1@n9a1i1>
Yes, FQP is this weekend, Saturday and Sunday.
PLEASE work us.
73s
Lou KE1F
----- Original Message -----
From: John Unger <w4au@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
: Tree -
:
: I think the Florida QSO Party is coming up sometime soon, but that usually
conflicts with Dayton, doesn't it? Also I may be confused after reading all
the messages on this reflector, but I believe that the new FQP rules do not
allow SO2R stations this year unless they append their calls with /SO2R.
:
: 73 - John, W4AU
:
:
: At 12:56 4/24/02 -0700, you wrote:
:
: >Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
: >
: >We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
: >
: >But - with the exception of the Poisson D'Avril contest on the
: >first, there just doesn't seem to be much going on.
: >
: >It really makes it hard for us two radio guys to keep our skills
: >in shape.
: >
: >At any rate - if anyone does know of any contests coming up this
: >weekend, that might not be well publicized, please let me know.
: >Maybe the Podunk Stew Perry Kid's QSO Party Sprint or something...
: >
: >73 Tree N6TR
: >tree@kkn.net
: >_______________________________________________
: >CQ-Contest mailing list
: >CQ-Contest@contesting.com
: >http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
:
: _______________________________________________
: CQ-Contest mailing list
: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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:
:
>From otterstad at enter.vg Thu Apr 25 20:25:10 2002
From: otterstad@enter.vg (otterstad@enter.vg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Praha (OK)
In-Reply-To: <E170bi2-0009TM-00@f4.mail.ru>
References: <E170bi2-0009TM-00@f4.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <20020425172510.64318118AC@mail1.vg.eunet.no>
Quoting Andrey Karpov <rv1aw@inbox.ru>:
> I'm going to be in Praha with wife from 28th April
until 5th May for rest.
> We'll be staying in "CHODSKA" hotel. I'd love to
get together with other
> contesters in the area. If you're interested in
gathering, please drop me a
> mail.
Go to OK1RR's web site for more info
73
Rag w6/la5he
>
>
> 73! Andrei Karpov RV1AW & RU1A
>
>
________________________________________
_______
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
>
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-conte
st
>
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 11:31:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251731.g3PHVQZ30771@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
WX5S(@W6YX) 4553 1078 48 10,743,348 NCCC
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
NZ1U(@KB1H) 2207 896 34 5,264,896 YCCC
NT6K 2254 845 48 4,173,455 NCCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
N4WSM 260 209 146,091 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K6LRN 333 255 208,640 NCCC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
K8GL 570 358 12 541,654 MRRC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ1U KB1DFB,KB1H,N1XS
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
YW4M DL2GG,YV2IF,YV3AZC,YV4FZM,YV4GLD,YV4GME,YV4YC,
YV5AMH,YV5EED,YV5IQJ,YV5IVB,YV5LMW
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 11:33:34 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251733.g3PHXYt30780@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
YW4M 9455 1415 48 45,210,665
OT2A 9687 1523 37,950,114
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
VE7SCC 2120 0 48 4,406,904 Coquitlam Amateur Ra
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
P40V 6610 1251 48 25,617,978 NCCC
3V8BB 5868 1238 48 23,900,828 YU CC
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCF
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20h 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
VE7UQ 689 391 676,821
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCF
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
VP5V(W5AO) 4333 990 36 10,409,850 OkDX
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 542 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
ZD9IR 756 387 15 877,716
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
VE5SF 628 366 9 543,510
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
TM4K(F5BEG) 1040 547 1,346,714
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCF
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
Z33AA 928 501 1,122,240
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
VK4NEF 606 390 672,360
VE1ASJ 591 378 26 556,794
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
ZF2AH(W6VNR@EART 2689 871 30 5,654,532
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
UT7QF 2334 929 35 4,825,226 UCC
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCF
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
YT1RA 1227 588 36 1,535,268 YU CC
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14.4 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 LP
4N1A(YU1EA) 154 121 38,115
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCF
YT9X(YZ1KA) 1346 629 36 1,697,042 YU CC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
PJ2H(W0CG) 1098 500 21 3,226,000 Caribbean Contesting
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ1U KB1DFB,KB1H,N1XS
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
YW4M DL2GG,YV2IF,YV3AZC,YV4FZM,YV4GLD,YV4GME,YV4YC,
YV5AMH,YV5EED,YV5IQJ,YV5IVB,YV5LMW
>From zf2nt at candw.ky Thu Apr 25 18:57:11 2002
From: zf2nt@candw.ky (Bruce B. Sawyer)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Message-ID: <000d01c1ec82$a3cfe920$2d75883f@ibm1050257>
>Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be definitely
>out of it.
>Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
>
>73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited to
N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key (or
RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage that
it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us put
our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its knees!
CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 15:17:03 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
Message-ID: <20020425181830.YXOZ18777.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/25/02 9:23 AM, Mike Gilmer - N2MG at n2mg@contesting.com wrote:
>The more I learned (directly from them and not from
>speculation on the reflector), the more I realized
>these guys know what the hell they are doing. The
>techniques are logical and well constructed. And,
>might I add, apparently still very closely scrutinized
>by humans.
Hear, hear! I'll second this. That's been my impression. The more I
learned abotu what the contest judges were doing, the more impressed I
was that they'd covered all the angles.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Thu Apr 25 15:54:10 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (James Jarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] neckstrain/eyestrain/fatigue
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEMKDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
W2OX observed the growing number of bifocals in use
among contesters. Even continuous gradient lenses
require a certain head position for a particular
focal length. The resulting neck strain probably
also translates into strain along the spinal column.
Alex recommends a full set of 'computer glasses' for
contesting. Focal length is roughly arms length...or
average distance to your equipment from your average
chair position. This will give you maximum posture
flexibility, and minimize the strain.
I also recommend bowflex training with rowing,
as a means to strengthen the neck, back and abdominal
muscles. The result of even moderate, repeated exercise,
is a definite improvement in ability to sit for long
periods.
N2EA
>From thompson at mindspring.com Thu Apr 25 17:02:54 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
<E170SrW-0004AP-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
<002d01c1ec50$f817c250$20996c40@gq7mb01>
Message-ID: <007001c1ec94$30c64660$3c3445cf@default>
Barry is an MD with a speciality not a eye checker technician.
73 Dave K4JRB
> An opthalmologist! And here I thought you were a real doctor....
>
> Denny - GP for a quarter century...
>
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 21:17:13 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <008801c1ebfb$13dc2e00$0100a8c0@joe>
Message-ID: <000201c1ec96$307925e0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
>
> Comparing SO2R and assisted is not a fair analogy. Packet requires no
> skill,
> involves the assistance of others and makes mult hunting the
equivalent of
> shooting fish in a barrel.
Of course it takes skill, otherwise the assisted ops and all the multi
ops would have many more multipliers than unassisted. It takes lots of
skill to know when to go after spots and when to ignore them, to grab
them in between cq's without losing a run, practice using the second vfo
if your radio is so equipped to tune them in and grab them, etc.
unskilled ops at a m/m miss many spotted mults because they don't know
how to properly grab them. Even worse are ops that are distracted and
let the run rate go down by spending too much time in pileups at the
wrong time in the contest.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Thu Apr 25 17:45:35 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <200204252015.g3PKFf9F009831@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <009901c1ec9a$55051640$03010a0a@office1>
OK, so let me see if I've got this straight:
The packet cluster system was originally constructed for use by contesters
during contests. It was most heavily used during the Big Six contest
weekends (ARRL DX, CQ WPX, CQ WW CW & Phone) and most of the other majors
(ARRL 10M, ARRL 160, IARU, Ca QS0, Pa QSO, etc.)
To keep it active, DX'ers were encouraged to use it during other times with
the proviso that they vacate the cluster during contest weekends. To the
point that, for example, some poor schmuck who doesn't know this, who posts
a CW DX spot during a Major phone weekend will get yelled at or even locked
out for the weekend.
Now we have a proposal that to discourage packet cheats -- that is, those
who use the cluster in an unethical manners and/or in contrast to the posted
rules of the contests -- we flood the packet cluster with so many spots as
to force the system to break down and then be useful to no one. That or ban
use of the cluster altogether. All to force the "packet" guys to shut down
the cluster system that was originally set up, for better or worse, for use
by contesters during contests.
Am I missing something, or has this reached a new point of absurdity?
73, ron wn3vaw
"There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
probably."
--John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
From: "Bruce B. Sawyer" <zf2nt@candw.ky>
To: <va3uz@rac.ca>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
>Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be definitely
>out of it.
>Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
>
>73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited to
N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key (or
RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage that
it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us put
our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its knees!
CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
>From w7zr at citlink.net Thu Apr 25 16:10:07 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
References: <007101c1eb8d$86131c40$0100a8c0@joe>
Message-ID: <002f01c1eca5$fcf506c0$35d1fea9@N1>
Good, I accomplished what I started out to do and that is to get people to
think about this subject (SO2R).
While I do not want to get embroiled in attacks and a lot of specifics I
will try to make a couple of points of clarification from my point of view.
First, let me again state this was not a statistical analysis. Anyone could
see that in the initial post I referenced my score and one other station in
my class for one contest. Hardly suggested that it was a "study" or an
"analysis". The information posted was the "data" at hand and it really was
not the sum total of the point of view. I believe several of the
suggestions made regarding a good future comparison of SO2R vs SO1R bear
review by the contest folks. What could be wrong with that?
While I have posted in the past on this subject and sometimes jokingly have
suggested many categories so "everyone" gets an award, that is not my goal.
I feel that SO2R vs SO1R is like having a race
between a Corvette and a Corvair. (Now please don't start a thread on car
comparisons). Those that think there is no advantage to running SO2R then
why do they do it? Most who do it are really first class contest operators
anyway. They do it to increase their score. They do it to advance
techniques. Then why was the technique of using packet radio swiftly put in
to a separate class? Someone suggested running packet spots takes no skill.
I beg to differ. To take full advantage of packet spotting in the assisted
category does require a bit of skill, coordination, timing and
understanding. Just about the same skills and equipment necessary for SO2R.
So why is one mode a category by itself and not the other?
Those who have said it is not a money issue. I can agree with that. There
are many ways to set up the station for SO2R without spending megabucks.
That is not my point. I could put $100K into my Corvair and it is still a
Corvair. I just feel in the spirit of competition, of trying to get more
operators
involved contesting, we need to have limited but fair classifications so
that
those who "need" to compete for the "prize" can do so on as level a playing
field as possible. For the rest of us, we can just have fun.
Oh yes, it was pointed out that there are so many other factors as to why I
was "womped". Very true. Some of the suggested differences were: It was
unfair to compare East Coast stations to West Coast stations (Whoa, I don't
think we want to get that one started); the operator for the station I
posted is "That Good" ( I stated in the original post that I take nothing
away from the other operator, a great contestor); that the soil conductivity
was different in Virginia than Arizona (Great idea, I think we should have
to submit the results of lab tests at each station and classify them by soil
conductivity). However, I was not just
writing about my station and my class but all others who are running SO1R in
an SO2R class. It still is amazing to me how many private emails I got in
support of the idea but how few were posted. Maybe some are intimidated but
still support the proposal.
Meanwhile I just will continue to try and stir
some thought on the subject.
>From N5RP at pdq.net Thu Apr 25 18:18:48 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] neckstrain/eyestrain/fatigue
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEMKDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020425171709.00b7f7a8@pop.pdq.net>
At 14:54 4/25/2002 -0400, James Jarvis wrote:
>I also recommend bowflex training with rowing,
>as a means to strengthen the neck, back and abdominal
>muscles.
====================>
I do elbowflex curls and my stomach seems to get bigger.
What am I doing wrong?
Do I need heavier bottles?
A Proper UK pint of 20 oz?
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Thu Apr 25 17:09:42 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <000d01c1ec82$a3cfe920$2d75883f@ibm1050257>
Message-ID: <004201c1ecae$49e69f40$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Bruce, I don't think that the intent was to bring the cluster system to its
knees. Hopefully there would be adequate preparation for this to be
effective; heaven knows the internet itself will be quite able to stand
up to the pressure -- it would only be the servers of the spotting
networks themselves that would be heavily stressed.
This would completely remove the "cheating" element from the self-
spotting act, while at the same time it would increase the usefulness
of the spotting system. Imagine -- the spotting networks would
provide 100% coverage of all CQ's, spreading the impact of new
spots to every CQ on the band... No more big packet pileups.
Instantaneously updated bandmaps that are never out of date. No
need for anyone to provide any spots of stations thay've just worked.
Your own personal approach to filtering spots -- spots no longer
filtered by your competitor!
No, although there would be much more server traffic, the server
traffic isn't the drawback to this idea. It would place a 100%
requirement on all entrants (even those who are located in quite
remote places where there is no internet service available at
all) to connect to the internet and use computers to do all of their
logging. It would put the Heathkit HW-8 and pencil gang
completely out of business competitively, and force everyone to
modern equipment and modern operating practices.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce B. Sawyer" <zf2nt@candw.ky>
To: <va3uz@rac.ca>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:57
Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
> >Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be
definitely
> >out of it.
> >Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
> >
> >73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
>
> I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited to
> N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
> EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key
(or
> RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage
that
> it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
> convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us put
> our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its
knees!
>
> CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From K4tmc at aol.com Thu Apr 25 20:17:51 2002
From: K4tmc@aol.com (K4tmc@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] May CQ arrives
Message-ID: <68.1f23fac2.29f9e89f@aol.com>
A stop by the PO box this morning resulted in the latest issue of CQ.
Front cover photo of N0GQ operating backpack-mobile in the Rockies with
details of his station inside. This month's issue is titled "Mobile Special!"
Contest related items:
Results - 2001 CQ WW RTTY DX Contest
Contesting - The Changing Face of Multi-Operator Contesting
Other interesting items:
Zero Bias (editorial) - Wood, Kids, and Radio
A Ham Radio "Voyage of Discovery" (a recreation of Lewis and Clark's trip)
County Hunting on the Road (and a County-Hunting primer)
The Fifth Annual CQ National Foxhunting Weekend
Reader Survey - ethics of ham radio and results of survey on refarming Novice
bands
World of Ideas - Mobiling 2002, More Ideas and New Goodies
Radio Classics - Mobile Operation in the '50s
What's New - Goodies Galore
Manufacturer Previews at Charlotte Hamfest (new items from Ten-Tec, Heil, and
Icom)
How It Works - Solar Power, The Easy Way
DX - Operating Procedures
VHF Plus - Mobile Hamming, A Driving Distraction?
Propagation - What is a CME? (coronal mass ejection)
Ads:
Heil Sound has full-page ad featuring the Pro-Set Plus and Traveler headsets,
and Classic, ICM, and Goldline microphones.
And more?
Don't forget the Florida QSO Party this weekend!!! (Jim, send the check to my
callbook address)
73 & High Rates,
Henry Pollock - K4TMC
Raleigh, NC
>From w2up at mindspring.com Fri Apr 26 02:00:59 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <007001c1ec94$30c64660$3c3445cf@default>
Message-ID: <3CC8A6CB.17059.30549E7@localhost>
Dave,
Thanks for your support. Actually, I think Denny was being a bit tongue
in cheek with his comment. I did reply privately to him that it didn't
surprise me he was a GP, as he couldn't even spell ophthalmologist
correctly :.)
Barry W2UP
On 25 Apr 2002 David L. Thompson wrote:
> Barry is an MD with a speciality not a eye checker technician.
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
> > An opthalmologist! And here I thought you were a real doctor....
> >
> > Denny - GP for a quarter century...
> >
>
>
>
--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Thu Apr 25 21:04:23 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
References: <007101c1eb8d$86131c40$0100a8c0@joe>
<002f01c1eca5$fcf506c0$35d1fea9@N1>
Message-ID: <066f01c1eccf$11d0b340$ede3c23f@KR6X.ORG>
Richard Zalewski <w7zr@citlink.net> wrote:
> Good, I accomplished what I started out to do and that is to get
people to
> think about this subject (SO2R).
Truly, I'd have to respond that you did not attain your goal. What
you did
was to reopen a stale topic and give a few of us a chance to get in
some
zingers. The vast majority of respondents posted opinions in
opposition to
the views you presented. Most were taken aback by your pronouncement
that the numeric comparison between your score and a leading scorer
could be attributed primarily to your own personal choice of issues
(SO2R).
Most of the respondents who seemed to agree with you also seemed to
be at a loss when presenting their views. One made comparisons
clearly
showing that he thought all SO2R competitors routinely called CQ on
two bands simultaneously. Others vastly overestimated the score
advantage that is attained through SO2R or suggested flawed
statistical
methods that they thought we should use to evaluate the value of SO2R
to the competitor. Clearly each of them believed they were presenting
valid arguments, even though their arguments wouldn't stand up under
the weight of examination.
Out of the discussion, one quite interesting suggestion surfaced:
Rather than considering a column showing SO1R or SO2R as a statistic,
the suggestion that the number of bandchanges in the log be printed
was
interesting, to me at least.
Those of us who wish to interpret this as an indicator of possible
SO2R
operation could do so -- and your own personal position would be
buoyed. Those of us who wish to interpret this as an indication of
"hustle" can do so. And those of us who object to the concept of
stigmatizing the use of two rigs with a label (TLA) and a column
(SO2R or SO1R) in the magazines that would provide fuel for
further attacks on everything that represents excellence in contest
operating wouldn't be offended. These kinds of numbers would be
interesting totop competitors when reading the contest results.
But in the final analysis, the majority of respondents simply said
that
this topic is stale, and they tire from hearing about it. I, for one,
disagree. I tend to believe that even a stale topic is worth the
effort
of fighting through dozens of boring, ill tempered, poorly presented
opinions as long as some comedian can push a good joke into the
thread somewhere along the way.
KR6X
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
To: "cq-contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
> Good, I accomplished what I started out to do and that is to get
people to
> think about this subject (SO2R).
>
> While I do not want to get embroiled in attacks and a lot of
specifics I
> will try to make a couple of points of clarification from my point
of view.
>
> First, let me again state this was not a statistical analysis.
Anyone could
> see that in the initial post I referenced my score and one other
station in
> my class for one contest. Hardly suggested that it was a "study" or
an
> "analysis". The information posted was the "data" at hand and it
really was
> not the sum total of the point of view. I believe several of the
> suggestions made regarding a good future comparison of SO2R vs SO1R
bear
> review by the contest folks. What could be wrong with that?
>
> While I have posted in the past on this subject and sometimes
jokingly have
> suggested many categories so "everyone" gets an award, that is not
my goal.
> I feel that SO2R vs SO1R is like having a race
> between a Corvette and a Corvair. (Now please don't start a thread
on car
> comparisons). Those that think there is no advantage to running
SO2R then
> why do they do it? Most who do it are really first class contest
operators
> anyway. They do it to increase their score. They do it to advance
> techniques. Then why was the technique of using packet radio
swiftly put in
> to a separate class? Someone suggested running packet spots takes
no skill.
> I beg to differ. To take full advantage of packet spotting in the
assisted
> category does require a bit of skill, coordination, timing and
> understanding. Just about the same skills and equipment necessary
for SO2R.
> So why is one mode a category by itself and not the other?
>
> Those who have said it is not a money issue. I can agree with that.
There
> are many ways to set up the station for SO2R without spending
megabucks.
> That is not my point. I could put $100K into my Corvair and it is
still a
> Corvair. I just feel in the spirit of competition, of trying to
get more
> operators
> involved contesting, we need to have limited but fair
classifications so
> that
> those who "need" to compete for the "prize" can do so on as level a
playing
> field as possible. For the rest of us, we can just have fun.
>
> Oh yes, it was pointed out that there are so many other factors as
to why I
> was "womped". Very true. Some of the suggested differences were: It
was
> unfair to compare East Coast stations to West Coast stations (Whoa,
I don't
> think we want to get that one started); the operator for the station
I
> posted is "That Good" ( I stated in the original post that I take
nothing
> away from the other operator, a great contestor); that the soil
conductivity
> was different in Virginia than Arizona (Great idea, I think we
should have
> to submit the results of lab tests at each station and classify them
by soil
> conductivity). However, I was not just
> writing about my station and my class but all others who are running
SO1R in
> an SO2R class. It still is amazing to me how many private emails I
got in
> support of the idea but how few were posted. Maybe some are
intimidated but
> still support the proposal.
>
> Meanwhile I just will continue to try and stir
> some thought on the subject.
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From harri.mantila at nokia.com Fri Apr 26 13:50:47 2002
From: harri.mantila@nokia.com (harri.mantila@nokia.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Portugal de OH6YF
Message-ID: <A242AFEC69697D40B6094A94B2C192AA096192@esebe011.NOE.Nokia.com>
Hello!
I'll be visiting Lisbon from the 2nd to the 4th of May 2002.
It would be nice to meet some HAMs while I am there.
QRZ?
73,
Harry OH6YF
___________________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH?MYF-M?BYF
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
Tel: +358-50-5472478
>From n2mg at contesting.com Fri Apr 26 05:14:20 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
Message-ID:
<20020426041421.7091.h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Thu, 25 April 2002, "Richard Zalewski" wrote
> Those that think there is no advantage to running
> SO2R then why do they do it?
Who ever said this?
> Most who do it are really first class contest
> operators anyway. They do it to increase their
> score. They do it to advance techniques. Then why
> was the technique of using packet radio swiftly put
> in to a separate class?
Why does the analogy of packet use and SO2R keep coming
up? I see absolutely no connection (other than the
attempts by those who don't use them to want to
separate themselves from those that do).
The primary (potential) advantage of packet comes from
other operators' efforts. Use of packet, in the past,
forced single operators (who didn't want to cheat) to
claim Multi-Multi. Creating a category for assisted
operation allowed single operators to not have to claim
multi-operator. The key word is OPERATOR.
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Fri Apr 26 12:04:32 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Absurdity...
Message-ID: <1020326110405.LAA24842@gate.iterated.com>
On 4/25/02 4:45 PM, Ron Notarius WN3VAW at wn3vaw@fyi.net wrote:
>Am I missing something, or has this reached a new point of absurdity?
Hey, in contesting, we're pushing the limits of absurdity all the time!
--
(During the last NAQP, my wife remarked to my daughters that I was
involved in a "QSO Party" downstairs. My girls picked up on the word
"party" and asked if they could go. So, they came down to the shack for a
visit. A few minutes later, they came back upstairs. "Mama, how can daddy
be at a party? He's just sitting down there all by himself....")
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From n4vhk at summitschool.com Fri Apr 26 13:19:10 2002
From: n4vhk@summitschool.com (Henry Heidtmann)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NC QSO Party results are posted!
Message-ID: <3CC97DFE.7CC65A6@summitschool.com>
The 2002 NC QSO Party results have been posted at the Forsyth Amateur
Radio Club website.
http://www.w4nc.org
Thanks for everyone's participation- we hope to see you next year!
Plaques and certifcates will be out by the middle of May!
See you all at Dayton-
73,
Henry Heidtmann, N4VHK
NC QSO Party Chair
Winston-Salem, NC
>From trogo at telegraphy.com Fri Apr 26 10:25:18 2002
From: trogo@telegraphy.com (Tony Rogozinski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dayton Ticket
Message-ID: <025d01c1ed3e$f4a39100$012cfea9@ph.cox.net>
I ended up with an extra $17 admission ticket - will sell it for $14 plus an
SASE -
beat the crowd - don't stand in line.
Tony Rogozinski N7BG
6625 West Pershing Avenue
Glendale AZ 85304
"I collect telegraph keys and most anything
related to telegraphy especially old or unusual
bugs (semi automatic keys). Please email or
call toll free 888-848-1572 if you have anything
to sell or trade!"
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Fri Apr 26 13:43:13 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Tomorrow is the Florida QSO Party!
Message-ID: <036701c1ed41$751126c0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
K4TMC wrote:
Don't forget the Florida QSO Party this weekend!!! (Jim, send the check to my
callbook address)
....I will have a check cut for you, 'TMC.....honest!
CQ-Contest robot subscribers will be pleased to learn that after tomorrow I
will once again crawl into my hole for another 11 months...
I appreciate the fact that most of the readership of the various reflectors
understands I am merely promoting an amateur radio activity that our club
sponsors. I try to do it in a lighthearted fashion to make it a little more
palatable.
There is one group I appear to have accidentally offended this year with my
postings and I have reassured one of their senior members, and asked that he
inform them, that this was not my intent. If you feel I have stepped on your
toes please accept my apologies.
The Florida QSO Party has been blessed with great participation the past few
years since it was taken over by the Florida Contest Group, and we take pride
in routinely activating all 67 of Florida's counties my employing contesters to
mobile between the less activated ones.
Why do contesters do this - fun. How do contesters have fun - running
stations....your help in allowing us to have fun this weekend would be
appreciated...we will be waiting for you as we cross the county lines...the
"fresh meat" pileups are a blast - hope to see you in there!
FQP details/records/results/downloads adn more can be found at our world class
website (tnx WD4AHZ) it is at:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
[note that the qsl.net server is having problems today but should be up shortly]
ThE PARTY starts tomorrow at noon Eastern time...
Thanks again,
Jim, K4OJ
Florida Contest Group
Sponsors: The Florida QSO Party
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Apr 26 14:20:44 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <200204261604.g3QG4f9F026749@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <030101c1ed48$fa19af20$03010a0a@office1>
So now the solution to stopping cluster cheats is to force everyone to use
the cluster and to effectively discourage or ban those who don't from
participating in the contest? In other words, to stop the cheats we ban the
operators who can not possible have been cheating?
I was wrong before. THIS is the latest height in absurdity.
73, ron wn3vaw
"There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
probably."
--John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Bruce, I don't think that the intent was to bring the cluster system to its
knees. Hopefully there would be adequate preparation for this to be
effective; heaven knows the internet itself will be quite able to stand
up to the pressure -- it would only be the servers of the spotting
networks themselves that would be heavily stressed.
This would completely remove the "cheating" element from the self-
spotting act, while at the same time it would increase the usefulness
of the spotting system. Imagine -- the spotting networks would
provide 100% coverage of all CQ's, spreading the impact of new
spots to every CQ on the band... No more big packet pileups.
Instantaneously updated bandmaps that are never out of date. No
need for anyone to provide any spots of stations thay've just worked.
Your own personal approach to filtering spots -- spots no longer
filtered by your competitor!
No, although there would be much more server traffic, the server
traffic isn't the drawback to this idea. It would place a 100%
requirement on all entrants (even those who are located in quite
remote places where there is no internet service available at
all) to connect to the internet and use computers to do all of their
logging. It would put the Heathkit HW-8 and pencil gang
completely out of business competitively, and force everyone to
modern equipment and modern operating practices.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce B. Sawyer" <zf2nt@candw.ky>
To: <va3uz@rac.ca>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:57
Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
> >Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be
definitely
> >out of it.
> >Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
> >
> >73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
>
> I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited to
> N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
> EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key
(or
> RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage
that
> it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
> convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us put
> our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its
knees!
>
> CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From nat at ajheatwole.com Fri Apr 26 17:14:43 2002
From: nat@ajheatwole.com (Nat Heatwole)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The Purpose of Contest Categories
References: <007101c1eb8d$86131c40$0100a8c0@joe>
<002f01c1eca5$fcf506c0$35d1fea9@N1> <066f01c1eccf$11d0b340$ede3c23f@KR6X.ORG>
Message-ID: <006901c1ed5f$06f9e140$6ec214ac@guilford.edu>
I've been on this reflector a while now and I've noticed that the SO2R
debate tends to be cyclical. It starts when someone complains about SO2R
or SO2R operators, the new category debate starts up, the mud is slung,
and it ends when people get tired of the thread. I usually don't
participate in the SO2R debate but I think it's about time I said
something as I'm getting sick of the ignorance surrounding it.
I've come to realize after watching the hundreds of posts about SO2R on
the reflector over the years that a lot of people don't understand why
there are different categories in contests. There is a methodology to
it, believe it or not. Contest categories are intended for one or both
of the following reasons:
1. To distinguish between a different numbers of operators and/or
simultaneous transmissions (ie. M/S, M/2, M/M).
2. To correct for elements that will produce an INHERENT unfairness or
advantage.
Look around, all contests have this scheme to their categories. However,
many don't realize what an "inherent unfairness" is. Here's the
definition:
-INHERENT UNFAIRNESS (def): any advantage in a contest that is mutually
exclusive of operator skill and station location where the *mere
addition* of a particular element or aspect increases an operator's
score.
In other words, adding a component that *in and of itself* increases
your score is an inherent advantage. Components of this nature include
amplifiers, as turning on an amp gives one an inherent advantage even if
one's operator skill was to remain constant because amps give the
ability to break pileups more easily, it "opens" the band earlier, and
CQing becomes much easier. All of these will increase one's score
independently of one's operating skill and QTH.
If you have operator A and he turns on 1500w as opposed to previously
running 100w and his operator skills remains the same under both
scenarios his score will be inherently higher with 1500w because of the
above reasons. Therefore 1500w is an inherent advantage over 100w and
that is why power categories (QRP, LP, HP) exist.
Some have brought up the packet issue, the fact that there is a separate
category for this. This is necessary because of #1. Because more than
one operator is (indirectly) contributing to a station's score an
additional category is appropriate and necessary.
The SO2R category controversy is fueled by that fact that 1) many people
have never really operated SO2R and 2) many people don't understand how
SO2R works. It *DOES NOT* provide an inherent advantage. Actually, when
everyone tries SO2R there score go DOWN initially, some for long periods
of time. In other words, it's the antithesis of an inherent advantage;
it's an inherent disadvantage. And because only one operator and one
transmitted signal at any time is present there is no justification for
a new category. In order to profit from SO2R operating one must work at
it a LOT over many contests and over many years. In other words, they
must develop operating skill surrounding it; just adding another radio
has no inherent advantage.
If a new category were to be created for SO2R it would:
1. Discourage creativity and innovation in contesting.
2. Discourage operators from investing time, money, and effort in their
stations.
3. Discourage competition.
4. Discourage operators from advancing their operating skill.
Any one of those four (let alone ALL four at once) will kill contesting.
Yes SO2R is an advantage, just like operating skill is an advantage, but
it is an *acquired* advantage not an inherent advantage and therefore
not unfair to possess. Also, there's the question of how to define SO2R
as well as the onslaught of new categories if we were to separate SO2R
from SO1R. Take CQ WW for example. If we made SO2R a new category in CQ
WW there would be 42 new categories:
SO2R AB QRP
SO2R AB QRP (A)
SO2R AB LP
SO2R AB LP (A)
SO2R AB HP
SO2R AB HP (A)
SO2R 160m QRP
SO2R 160m QRP (A)
SO2R 160m LP
SO2R 160m LP (A)
SO2R 160m HP
SO2R 160m HP (A)
SO2R 80m QRP
SO2R 80m QRP (A)
SO2R 80m LP
SO2R 80m LP (A)
SO2R 80m HP
SO2R 80m HP (A)
SO2R 40m QRP
SO2R 40m QRP (A)
SO2R 40m LP
SO2R 40m LP (A)
SO2R 40m HP
SO2R 40m HP (A)
SO2R 20m QRP
SO2R 20m QRP (A)
SO2R 20m LP
SO2R 20m LP (A)
SO2R 20m HP
SO2R 20m HP (A)
SO2R 15m QRP
SO2R 15m QRP (A)
SO2R 15m LP
SO2R 15m LP (A)
SO2R 15m HP
SO2R 15m HP (A)
SO2R 10m QRP
SO2R 10m QRP (A)
SO2R 10m LP
SO2R 10m LP (A)
SO2R 10m HP
SO2R 10m HP (A)
You think CQ is slow at returning certificates and plaques now, just
imagine. And CQ WPX (for example) would be even worse as it includes
several categories not found in CQ WW, notably rookie (R), band
restricted (BR), and tribander-single element (TS). I don't have the
energy to type all of those new SO2R categories out and neither does CQ
(one reason why they haven't adopted a SO2R category).
And another thing. Any activity discouraging SO2R means that less people
will operate SO2R. And when less people operate SO2R that means
*EVERYONE'S* score goes down because less total QSO's will be made in
any given contest. That's just what we need in contesting, less Q's.
That's the problem that has nearly killed SS several times.
People who want a new class for SO2R don't understand SO2R and/or
they're confusing it's acquired advantage with an inherent advantage.
When you discourage innovation and skill, contesting ends. If you don't
like SO2R don't operate it. If you do not wish to advance your operating
skill through that avenue (like K3ZO), if instead you wish to acquire it
other ways that's great. But don't complain about others who chose to
acquire it that way and don't segregate these individuals into their own
category just because you don't like their (acquired) skill advantage.
KQ2M beats the *&%$ out of me in every contest due (in part) to his
excellent, highly refined operating skill of which SO2R is one and only
one component. Do I claim he has an advantage, ABSOLUTLY! But it's not
an unfair one, it took him years to acquire and he still claims to be in
the process of perfecting it. I'm happy for Bob. I don't wish him to be
in another class just because he undertakes ventures that increase his
operating skill. That's what radiosport is about and Bob is what all
contesters should strive to be.
If you like SO2R operate it. If you don't like SO2R don't operate it.
But if you chose not to operate it, don't claim it should have it's own
category because that's NOT WHY categories exist. Only when this is
understood will the cyclical SO2R debate finally end.
73, Nat, WZ3AR
<nat@ajheatwole.com>
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Fri Apr 26 16:52:09 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <200204261604.g3QG4f9F026749@contesting.com>
<030101c1ed48$fa19af20$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <019f01c1ed75$0042d120$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Right, an unfortunate side effect preventing the use of
what is effectively a great idea but for the side effect.
Sure would have cut down on those busted spots...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 10:20
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
> So now the solution to stopping cluster cheats is to force everyone to use
> the cluster and to effectively discourage or ban those who don't from
> participating in the contest? In other words, to stop the cheats we ban
the
> operators who can not possible have been cheating?
>
> I was wrong before. THIS is the latest height in absurdity.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
> probably."
> --John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
>
> Bruce, I don't think that the intent was to bring the cluster system to
its
> knees. Hopefully there would be adequate preparation for this to be
> effective; heaven knows the internet itself will be quite able to stand
> up to the pressure -- it would only be the servers of the spotting
> networks themselves that would be heavily stressed.
>
> This would completely remove the "cheating" element from the self-
> spotting act, while at the same time it would increase the usefulness
> of the spotting system. Imagine -- the spotting networks would
> provide 100% coverage of all CQ's, spreading the impact of new
> spots to every CQ on the band... No more big packet pileups.
> Instantaneously updated bandmaps that are never out of date. No
> need for anyone to provide any spots of stations thay've just worked.
> Your own personal approach to filtering spots -- spots no longer
> filtered by your competitor!
>
> No, although there would be much more server traffic, the server
> traffic isn't the drawback to this idea. It would place a 100%
> requirement on all entrants (even those who are located in quite
> remote places where there is no internet service available at
> all) to connect to the internet and use computers to do all of their
> logging. It would put the Heathkit HW-8 and pencil gang
> completely out of business competitively, and force everyone to
> modern equipment and modern operating practices.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce B. Sawyer" <zf2nt@candw.ky>
> To: <va3uz@rac.ca>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:57
> Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
>
>
> > >Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be
> definitely
> > >out of it.
> > >Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
> > >
> > >73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
> >
> > I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited
to
> > N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
> > EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key
> (or
> > RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage
> that
> > it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
> > convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us
put
> > our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its
> knees!
> >
> > CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
>
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>
>From k1ea at contesting.com Fri Apr 26 19:57:32 2002
From: k1ea@contesting.com (K1EA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Free CT for New England Qso Party
Message-ID: <000201c1ed75$bfc638c0$c801010a@home.k1ea.com>
I have placed a free download of CT on www.k1ea.com for use in the New
England QSO Party.
This is the full CT, except it says registered to New England QSO Party.
I hope this helps participation.
73,
Ken K1EA
>From trogo at telegraphy.com Fri Apr 26 17:09:49 2002
From: trogo@telegraphy.com (Tony Rogozinski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dayton Ticket
Message-ID: <03c701c1ed77$76c68f60$012cfea9@ph.cox.net>
The ticket is sold.
"I collect telegraph keys and most anything
related to telegraphy especially old or unusual
bugs (semi automatic keys). Please email or
call toll free 888-848-1572 if you have anything
to sell or trade!"
>From w3cf at comcast.net Fri Apr 26 21:14:59 2002
From: w3cf@comcast.net (Doug Priest)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition in a box
Message-ID: <NFBBKEEFALNKFAKNGPCKGEMCCDAA.w3cf@comcast.net>
http://www.casesbypelican.com/
Just put IC-751a, MFJ Voice Keyer, Bencher Paddles, and Laptop computer in
the Pelican 1650 case.
I'm impressed. 69 pounds :-)
Water tight, air tight, corrosion proof protection for your DXpedition.
Unconditional lifetime guarantee......
It locks and rolls, too.....
73
Doug W3CF /V26DX
Doug Priest W3CF
Hatfield, Pa.
19440-3958
Doug@W3CF.com
www.w3cf.com
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Apr 26 21:31:31 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest related good deal...
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020426202716.05110ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
For those who are looking for good-quality shielded cable to connect band
decoders to radios and/or PCs, Radio Shack is currently running a 97 cent
sale on 30 feet (!) of double-shielded 4-conductor data/audio cable, stock
number 278-777. The local manager said it is a discontinued item. Package
says it is 4 26-gauge conductors, stranded, color coded, 100 % foil shield
with 75% braid overlay.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From al_lorona at agilent.com Fri Apr 26 19:34:32 2002
From: al_lorona@agilent.com (al_lorona@agilent.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
Message-ID: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Hi, Everybody,
I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a different check
than my correct check. On purpose. I think I used something like '55' in the
CW SS, and '00' in the phone SS. Why did I do this? I guess I thought it
would be cool to try out another number. Or to alleviate boredom. I don't
know.
I had talked it over with a friend before the contest and we came to the
conclusion that it would not be against the spirit of the rules to do so.
After all, the SS check is only a simulation of a real check anyway, which
of course is the word count of a message. And it's not the same as changing
your precedence or your section, which would have very serious consequences
for you and for others.
I suspect that some folks couldn't care less what check I sent, while others
may take exception to the practice. I want to hear all sides, because I'm
thinking of doing it again.
Regards,
Al W6LX
>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 27 03:09:23 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
References:
<20020426041421.7091.h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <3CC9FA43.2DE2DA54@harborside.com>
Mike Gilmer - N2MG wrote:
> Why does the analogy of packet use and SO2R keep coming
> up? I see absolutely no connection (other than the
> attempts by those who don't use them to want to
> separate themselves from those that do).
And the problems with this is????
Tom W7WHY
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Sat Apr 27 04:11:56 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?iso-8859-1?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
References: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Message-ID: <012801c1ed90$e9487d00$b810be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
From: <al_lorona@agilent.com>
>
> I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a different check
> than my correct check. On purpose. I think I used something like '55' in the
> CW SS, and '00' in the phone SS. Why did I do this? I guess I thought it
> would be cool to try out another number. Or to alleviate boredom. I don't
> know.
>
I looked in my checkbook, and every check has a different number.
Copy what I sent *YOU*, not what I send someone else last year.
73, de Hans, K0HB
>From k5zd at charter.net Sat Apr 27 04:12:48 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
In-Reply-To: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEGNDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Send anything you want! Just make sure you send the same thing to everyone
you work and that you get it right in your log submission to ARRL (you would
be surprised how often this doesn't happen).
The only people who will complain are those using databases from previous
years. They deserve to lose a QSO if they don't copy what you send...
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of
> al_lorona@agilent.com
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 00:35 AM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
>
>
>
> Hi, Everybody,
>
> I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a
> different check
> than my correct check. On purpose. I think I used something like
> '55' in the
> CW SS, and '00' in the phone SS. Why did I do this? I guess I thought it
> would be cool to try out another number. Or to alleviate boredom. I don't
> know.
>
> I had talked it over with a friend before the contest and we came to the
> conclusion that it would not be against the spirit of the rules to do so.
> After all, the SS check is only a simulation of a real check anyway, which
> of course is the word count of a message. And it's not the same
> as changing
> your precedence or your section, which would have very serious
> consequences
> for you and for others.
>
> I suspect that some folks couldn't care less what check I sent,
> while others
> may take exception to the practice. I want to hear all sides, because I'm
> thinking of doing it again.
>
> Regards,
>
> Al W6LX
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Sat Apr 27 01:08:12 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The Florida QSO Party Starts at Noon Eastern on Saturday!
Message-ID: <020c01c1eda1$260a2080$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
It is just rolling over to Saturday here in Tampa....so for one last time
before the fun begins in 12 hours at 1600Z just thought I would remind everyone
that:
The Florida QSO Party is 0 Days Away - see everyone in a few hours!
Details can be found at: http://www.qsl.net/fqp
Start time Saturday - Noon Eastern
Start time Sunday - 8:00 AM Eastern
Both days are ten hour operaitng windows...mobiles will be criss crossing the
state hitting all the counties - some of them many times - please join us for a
Party - Florida Style!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
Floirda Contest Group
(0ne of the ops in K4FCG Mobile)
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>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Sat Apr 27 00:11:53 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
In-Reply-To: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJEEMFECAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> I suspect that some folks couldn't care less what check I sent,
> while others
> may take exception to the practice. I want to hear all sides, because I'm
> thinking of doing it again.
>
Hey, Al, I'll copy as best I can whatever anyone sends me. It doesn't matter
what you sent last year or the year before. What matters is what you send
me now, that you report it as such, and that I copy it accurately in the
log.
It's between you and the contest sponsor to deal with the appropriateness of
changing your check.
73,
dale, kg5u
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sat Apr 27 12:09:28 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
In-Reply-To: <3CC9FA43.2DE2DA54@harborside.com>
Message-ID: <000201c1eddc$00004410$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
> > Why does the analogy of packet use and SO2R keep coming
> > up? I see absolutely no connection (other than the
> > attempts by those who don't use them to want to
> > separate themselves from those that do).
>
>
> And the problems with this is????
> Tom W7WHY
no problem, which is the point of the question. So2r is ONE OPERATOR
doing all he can to win. Using packet takes assistance from other
operators which used to put you in a multi op class. The s/o 'assisted'
class was actually NOT a split of s/o, it was a split of the m/s class
into those who actually had only one operator at the radios and those
who had more than one operator at the radios.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Sat Apr 27 09:02:35 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Bogus check--check/// one guy does it with
wires!...another with wheels
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHAEOBDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
W6LX wrote....
>I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a different check
>than my correct check. On purpose. Al, W6LX
Sure, Al....it's not that it was so long ago you can't REMEMBER what it is, eh?
(Which is, truth to tell, my situation. Novice ticket arrived around a
year-end.)
-0-
To the guy who pointed out KQ2M's so2r prowess....I might point out that
Bob, for the most part, has done this with WIRES. Now, his
place looks like a damned spider web, with those wire beams all over
the place....but he has instant directional switching as a result. As his
tower system comes on line, look for the scores to go down :)
-0-
And then there's Dougie, W3CF, who's busy practicing wheelies with his
portable station in a box.
-0-
And we STILL haven't solved the ultimate packet question!!!
-0-
Natives are restless...snow is off the mountains in VT...must be time for
Dayton.
Jim/N2EA
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sat Apr 27 14:16:24 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ne qso party rules?
Message-ID: <000801c1eded$bbc422f0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
A problem to expect with the new CT 9.72 for the NE QSO Party for those
of you with computer controlled radios who haven't seen these bugs in
the recent versions of CT(or haven't cared because most contests are
single mode only):
Changing modes on the ts-940 or ft-1000 (the mp seems to be ok) must be
done on the computer and THEN ALSO on the radio to get them to match up.
I don't know if this applies to other radios, but it is something to
watch for.
Also noted, my f10-check mult window seems to be empty.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From k3ft at erols.com Sat Apr 27 10:15:29 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
References: <000201c1eddc$00004410$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <3CCAB281.4167@erols.com>
Have to laugh at what some guy might think as he copies my check of '03' (for
the 2002
SS) which, when, after about 15 hours my Q number is up there as being quite
good for a
99 year old contester! HEH (Guess it's true! RF and CW DO tend to preserve one
rather
well!) IT's even MORR humorous when the folks who know me wonder how I aged so
quickly.
(I tell 'em it is due to being on 20M SSB for 20 hours during the DX contests!)
I'm with the other people. As long as it's consistent, it's what you report,
and I copy
what you sent.. send what you like!
73
Chuck K3FT
>From k1ir at designet.com Sat Apr 27 10:24:04 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
Message-ID: <nw4xvyay87pbki3.270420020924@designet-jsi>
>I'm thinking of doing it again.<
Al,
How could you? This interpretation of the SS rules is highly irregular.
Clearly, you have created an unfair advantage for yourself in using a Bogus
Check. Don't underestimate the significance of what you're doing here. Changing
your check from your actual year first licensed to 55 seems to have given you a
huge advantage in dits. Dats not fair. And changing your check to 00 in phone
seems to have given you a similar advantage in zeros. Now, some will argue that
the advantage is not that big; some will say its huge. Some will say they just
don't have the resources to implement such an advantage for themselves.
This flagrant rules violation almost rises to the level of the Bogus Signal
Report, now a widespread practice amongst hardcore contesters. How does a
dedicated DXer challenge these uncaring contest ops who continually send a 59
when the spirit of the rules dictate that correct report is "22 and please
confirm your call"? To allow these upstanding DXers to compete on a level
playing field, the category SOBS [Single-Op Bogus Signal Report] is long
overdue.
At a minimum, you must self-declare yourself as SOBC, and the CAC should
immediately begin deliberations on how to structure this serious new category
of SS competition.
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Sat Apr 27 11:07:10 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
In-Reply-To: <3CCAB281.4167@erols.com>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDGEABEGAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
I guess I'm going against the Majority on this one. Could I have
been to be the only one to have read the rules in modern memory?
The rules specify what to send for *check* in the same way it
does for *section*.
>From the SS Rules (from the ARRL web site):
" 4.Exchange: The required exchange consists of:
4.1. A consecutive serial number;
4.2. Precedence;
4.2.1. "Q" for Single Op QRP (5 W output or less);
4.2.2. "A" for Single Op Low Power (up to 150 W output);
4.2.3. "B" for Single Op High Power (greater than 150 W output);
4.2.4. "U" for Single Op Unlimited;
4.2.5. "M" for Multi-Op;
4.2.6. "S" for School Club;
4.3. Your Callsign;
4.4. Check (the last two digits of the year you were first licensed);
4.5. ARRL/RAC Section"
Check is explicitly specified. Section is explicitly specified.
Precedence is explicitly specified. Where does it say "or whatever
you feel like using instead"?
If you can justify changing the *check* in your exchange, I can
justify changing the **Section** in my exchange (so long as I'm
consistent)! In fact, as it doesn't say "*Your* ARRL/RAC Section"
it is **less** explicit than the specification for Check, which it
says must be "...year *you* were first licensed"!
Perhaps I'll send "WY' or "ND" as my *section* this year, as they
*are* ARRL Sections. From Ohio, that should provide an advantage
for me!
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Chuck K3FT
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 10:15 AM
> To: CQ-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
>
>
> Have to laugh at what some guy might think as he copies my check
> of '03' (for the 2002
> SS) which, when, after about 15 hours my Q number is up there as
> being quite good for a
> 99 year old contester! HEH (Guess it's true! RF and CW DO tend to
> preserve one rather
> well!) IT's even MORR humorous when the folks who know me wonder
> how I aged so quickly.
> (I tell 'em it is due to being on 20M SSB for 20 hours during
> the DX contests!)
>
> I'm with the other people. As long as it's consistent, it's what
> you report, and I copy
> what you sent.. send what you like!
>
> 73
> Chuck K3FT
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>From kwolff at charter.net Sat Apr 27 13:12:55 2002
From: kwolff@charter.net (Ken Wolff)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [YCCC] ne qso party rules?
In-Reply-To: <000e01c1edf5$edc2edb0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <000001c1ee06$64390f00$c801010a@home.k1ea.com>
Fixed it. Find at www.k1ea.com
-----Original Message-----
From: David Robbins [mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 10:15 AM
To: k1ea@contesting.com; reflector ct-user
Subject: FW: [YCCC] ne qso party rules?
Alt-z closes the check call window then crashes the machine.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Frenaye [mailto:frenaye@pcnet.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 13:39
> To: David Robbins
> Subject: Re: [YCCC] ne qso party rules?
>
> At 01:16 PM 4/27/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>
> >Also noted, my f10-check mult window seems to be empty.
>
> Alt-Z brings it up I think... -- Tom
>
>
>
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--
> ------------------------------------------
> e-mail: frenaye@pcnet.com YCCC --> http://www.yccc.org/
> Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone:
860-668-5444
>From k3ft at erols.com Sat Apr 27 13:38:39 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SoBS/SoBC
Message-ID: <3CCAE21F.5BA7@erols.com>
So BC! So BS! Great idea! How about just 'BC' and 'BS' ;-)
Personally, I don't care WHAT check or section you send as long as you are
consistent
and that's what you submit under IF you choose to send in a log. If you pick a
'rare'
section, you oughta be ready to answer ALL the QSL requests tho! (AND DON'T
expect
SASE's! <grin>)
C'mon guys.. let's lighten up. I think we're suffering 'SO2R Thread burnout'
here.
Remember the line from the 50's and 60's.. 'It's ONLY a movie.. It's only a
movie.. It's
only a movie!...'
73
Chuck K3FT
>From chas.shaw at verizon.net Sat Apr 27 17:43:43 2002
From: chas.shaw@verizon.net (Charles W. Shaw)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
In-Reply-To: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDGEABEGAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
References: <3CCAB281.4167@erols.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020427163820.009d1330@mail.verizon.net>
Jeff Maass wrote:
>I guess I'm going against the Majority on this one.
I will join Jeff. In addition to what he pointed
out about the RULES, it is handy and interesting
to know the tenure of the station you are working!
And, I really was first licensed in '55!
Charles, N5UL
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Apr 27 15:04:46 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
References: <200204271603.g3RG3J9F001583@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <04f201c1ee16$087103c0$03010a0a@office1>
My college club station (K3CR up at Penn State) was first on the air in
1909, and got one of the first Department of Commerce licenses (8XE) in
1912. Now just try and convince the kids up there that they should use a
check of '12,' just like the rules state (year the station was first
licensed, right?)
A few years ago, I was told (when I got a check of "84" if I recall
correctly) that a would-be lawyer in the club claimed that under strict
interpretation of the rules, each operator was obligated to use as the check
the year HE (or she) was first licensed.
Another time, someone mistakenly used the year the club got the call (72) as
the check instead of year first licensed -- mistake was caught after about
70-80 QSO's and then they switched. This was back in the pre-computer days,
incidently... anyway this was reported with the explanation when the log was
sent in so that no one else would get penalized for our mistake.
In any event, I know the question did come up once about the appropriate
check to use -- the Penn State ARC itself only dates to the early 1960's
even though the Penn State station goes way back, which is a whole 'nother
story -- and we were told by the ARRL contest folks at the time that in the
case of ambiguity, any valid check would be accepted so long as the same
check was consistently used throughout the contest.
And consider this folks... what do we do in 10 years time when the 2 digit
check "laps"? Is there going to be a distinction made between "1912" and
"2012" checks, or are they both going to simply be "12"? (Granted, this
will most likely only affect club stations, but you never know...
I have many fond memories of Sweepstakes operating from K3CR. You can blame
my love of contesting on W3AS, WA3FET, K3UA, K3YD, AA3B, WA3WAW, the former
WA3WUD (can never
remember Howie's "new" 2x1 call) and a host of others. And then there was
the time
the Young Gun Contester (who was a student at the time but not a member of
the club) who asked if he could operate the club station SO in SS because
he'd
been disqualified the year before under his own ticket... but if I mention
his call, he'll
definitely snub me at Dayton this year. Hmmmm... tempting...
73, ron wn3vaw
'Never attribute to malice that which is adequately
explained by stupidity.' --Hanlon's Razor
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck K3FT <k3ft@erols.com>
To: CQ-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
Have to laugh at what some guy might think as he copies my check of '03'
(for the 2002
SS) which, when, after about 15 hours my Q number is up there as being quite
good for a
99 year old contester! HEH (Guess it's true! RF and CW DO tend to preserve
one rather
well!) IT's even MORR humorous when the folks who know me wonder how I aged
so quickly.
(I tell 'em it is due to being on 20M SSB for 20 hours during the DX
contests!)
I'm with the other people. As long as it's consistent, it's what you report,
and I copy
what you sent.. send what you like!
73
Chuck K3FT
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>From ve3iay at rac.ca Sat Apr 27 19:02:46 2002
From: ve3iay@rac.ca (Richard Ferch)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
Message-ID: <000701c1ee37$4525c640$6400a8c0@workstation1>
On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:07:10 -0400, Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com sent:
> If you can justify changing the *check* in your exchange, I can
> justify changing the **Section** in my exchange (so long as I'm
> consistent)! In fact, as it doesn't say "*Your* ARRL/RAC Section"
> it is **less** explicit than the specification for Check, which it
> says must be "...year *you* were first licensed"!
>
> Perhaps I'll send "WY' or "ND" as my *section* this year, as they
> *are* ARRL Sections. From Ohio, that should provide an advantage
> for me!
>
Surely you jest, Jeff!
Using a faked check is a lot like fibbing about your age in the All Asian
contest, or the commonplace practice of using a nickname in the NAQP.
Remember all the "Chad"s in January 2001? Did anyone seriously suggest that
this was a violation of the rules? Heck, there's even an award for "best
name" in the RTTY NAQP! I think the majority view you referred to is that
the check in SS is similar to these.
Using a faked section would be completely different. In SS, the section is a
critical element of contest scoring, both for multipliers and for the Clean
Sweep award, as well as for your competitive position vs. the rest of the
section. Lying about your section would attack the integrity of the contest
results and awards. I'm proud of my Clean Sweep mug, but if I seriously
thought there was a chance that some of the QSOs were with falsified
sections, I would throw it out - it would have no value to me. Not that it
is any of my business (I'm not an ARRL member), but my personal opinion is
that if a station located in Ohio were to deliberately send "WY" or "ND" as
his section, that should be grounds for disqualification. And no, I don't
think for a second that you or anyone else on this reflector would actually
do that - it was obviously a "straw man" argument!
The callsign in the exchange is another such critical element; it must be
consistent and unchanged during the contest, any particular call sign must
only be used by one station during the contest, and of course it must be a
callsign the operator is legally entitled to use.
The precedence is different. I don't care during the contest what the other
station's precedence is, as long as they record it correctly in their log
(for log checking - obviously, to deliberately record something different in
the log than what was sent over the air would be highly unethical, but I
hope we are not talking about that kind of tactic!). However, the log
checkers may wish to insist that it be consistent with the entry
classification, and that is their prerogative. Nevertheless, let's suppose
someone, perhaps for childish one-upmanship reasons, sends "Q" during the
contest, logs the exchange as such, but uses high power and enters their log
in the high power category (again, I am not talking about lying about the
power, only about using an incorrect precedence in the exchange). If
everyone could somehow be completely sure that this would not result in
errors during the log checking process or a misclassification of the entry,
would it really matter?
The serial number is similar. It doesn't matter to me if someone increases
their serial number by ten instead of by one after every QSO, as long as
what they put in their log agrees with what they sent me. Indeed, the longer
serial numbers they will have to send will probably increase the number of
fills they are asked for, so it's actually in my competitive interest if
someone else inflates their serial numbers. The log checkers may choose to
insist otherwise, of course, and have their own valid reasons for doing so.
Furthermore, they can easily enforce the rule about consecutive serial
numbers by checking the logs, just as they can enforce the precedence rule
by cross-checking the precedence with the entry class.
However, using a bogus check affects no-one at all. As long as I copy
correctly what the other guy sends, and as long as he records it correctly
in his log, who cares? Again, the log checkers may insist that it not change
during the contest for log-checking reasons. I suppose that, according to a
literal-minded reading of the rules, they could even insist that it be
correct, but why would they? Unlike insisting that the check be consistent,
which is verifiable, insisting on correctness would be unenforceable and,
more importantly, immaterial, and therefore a waste of time. Logically, a
rule which is unenforceable and immaterial may not be a very good one, but
there would be no real point to changing this particular rule even if
everyone agreed that it needn't be taken literally.
Despite the above argument, I think that Al's idea of changing his check is
not a particularly good one as far as improving his score is concerned. I
believe the net effect on his score could even be negative, as follows:
Given the widespread use of master callsign databases, there is an advantage
to using a consistent check every year, or a consistent name in every NAQP.
It's similar to the advantage everyone gets by sending 599 instead of a true
signal report in CQ WW. Namely, it may slightly reduce the number of fills,
which may in turn have a positive effect on the score. On the other hand, I
suppose using a different name or check every year or a different signal
report every QSO might improve your competitive situation ever so slightly
by increasing the likelihood of busted QSOs in your competitors' logs.
Speaking for myself, I would judge the former effect to be of more actual
benefit than the latter.
Now on the other hand, if Al wanted to shorten his Sweepstakes exchange by
moving from LAX to NE, I'm sure he would get lots of encouragement from the
rest of us! ;)
73,
Rich VE3IAY
>From swca at swbell.net Sun Apr 28 08:15:03 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
References: <000701c1ee37$4525c640$6400a8c0@workstation1>
Message-ID: <011001c1eeae$55f67560$934afea9@TL01>
I think if Al wants to send "55" as his check but it is not the year he was
first licensed, he must first find an op who was licensed in 55 like Charles
there. Charlie goes to Al's house, drinks the beer and eats the sandwiches,
and Al enter Multi-Single.
Mark, N5OT
>From aj9c at comteck.com Sun Apr 28 14:06:23 2002
From: aj9c@comteck.com (Mike Kasrich)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SS checks
Message-ID: <3CCBF3CF.7030605@comteck.com>
Ive always understood you were to use the last two numbers from the year
you were first licensed. If you don't my apple cart won't be tipped one
way or the other but the guys with the super duper master.dat files
might get confused for a second or so.
mike/aj9c
NR A AJ9C 74 IN
>From k4ww at arrl.net Sun Apr 28 13:37:16 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Rules
Message-ID: <001901c1eed2$f594d840$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
>From the "official" SS rules:
4.Exchange: The required exchange consists of:
4.1. A consecutive serial number;
4.2. Precedence;
4.2.1. "Q" for Single Op QRP (5 W output or less);
4.2.2. "A" for Single Op Low Power (up to 150 W output);
4.2.3. "B" for Single Op High Power (greater than 150 W output);
4.2.4. "U" for Single Op Unlimited;
4.2.5. "M" for Multi-Op;
4.2.6. "S" for School Club;
4.3. Your Callsign;
4.4. Check (the last two digits of the year you were first licensed);
4.5. ARRL/RAC Section
Example: WA4QQN would respond to W1AW's call by sending: W1AW 123 B WA4QQN
71 NC which indicates QSO number 123, B for Single Op High Power, WA4QQN,
first licensed in 1971, and in the North Carolina section.
4.6. With the exception of the serial number, which changes from QSO to QSO,
the exchange sent must remain consistent during the entire contest.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Usually many of a contest(s) rules are somewhat "open to interpretation"?
Many are quick to point out in another often discussed thread that "SO = one
(1) operator, regardless of the amount of equipment"? The wording of SS
rules, at least to me, leave no doubt of what an exchange should be? At no
place, within the "exchange" portion of the rules, do I find "send what you
care"? Several years ago the question of "check" came up while discussing a
m/o using W4CN (class of 27), and we were advised "that in a m/o, the check
should be that of the callsign being used"! IMHO, any proven, deliberate
deviation from the "official" rules should be grounds for disqualification?
I also notice that no one in an "official" capacity from ARRL has commented
on this ridiculous attempt at circumventing the posted rules, gives even
more reason to believe it is purely "a figment of someone's distorted
imagination"?
C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
>From kq2m at mags.net Sun Apr 28 14:16:14 2002
From: kq2m@mags.net (Robert Shohet)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Router/Firewall/Network/Internet spot problems?
Message-ID: <000701c1eed8$682227a0$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
Hi Guys,
I currently am using a Dell Win98 Ver 2 computer with a Motorola SB4100
Cable Modem and Charter Pipeline - Cable Modem Internet access. I am also
using Zonealarm Pro Ver 2.6 as my firewall.
My plan was to install a D-Link DI-704P router and then connect up my other
Win98 Ver 2 computer in the shack (a Dell optiplex running on Win 98 Ver 2).
I decided to "test" the router by first connecting it to the upstairs
computer.
I shut down Zonealarm Pro and then hooked up the router and went through the
installation process.
After it was installed, I noticed that I couldn't browse. So I went to the
Appendix and ran the "Ping" test on the gateway address - it passed the
test. But I still couldn't browse or receive e-mail.
I called Charter - my cable/internet provider and was told that Zonealarm
might be the culprit but I thought I remembered Zonealarm asking me about
something and then asking for my password to change it.
I suspect that the Router does work but I am not sure what is "blocking" the
ability of the cable modem and the computer to talk with each other through
the router. I am hoping that someone out there has a Win98 computer with
Zonealarm and the DLink DI-704p router and can tell me what I am missing.
BTW, after removing the router and reinstalling the cable modem settings,
everything works fine again.
Any ideas please or suggestions? Thanks for your help.
73
Bob KQ2M
>From w5xd at writelog.com Sun Apr 28 20:35:05 2002
From: w5xd@writelog.com (W. Wright, W5XD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SS checks
In-Reply-To: <3CCBF3CF.7030605@comteck.com>
Message-ID: <000601c1eeeb$ccdceb40$6400000a@W5XD>
For any given SS weekend, I feel free to choose either '71 (the year I know
I made my first QSO--in February) or '70 (because I seem to remember my
license date was earlier and I am too lazy to research the details).
But after sending 71 for many years, I find I get asked for a lot more fills
if I send 70. Since I am not a serious competitor and because I really
dislike the use of databases instead of copying off the air, I still plan to
send 70 some weekends just to slow down the database guys.
Wayne
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Sun Apr 28 21:59:02 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?iso-8859-1?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Rules
References: <001901c1eed2$f594d840$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
Message-ID: <00ec01c1eeef$264a9120$4215be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shelby Summerville" <k4ww@arrl.net>
> Several years ago the question of "check" came up while discussing a
> m/o using W4CN (class of 27), and we were advised "that in a m/o, the check
> should be that of the callsign being used"! IMHO, any proven, deliberate
> deviation from the "official" rules should be grounds for disqualification?
Sunuvugun, Shelby. That's going to cause a lot of difficulty for folks with
calls which have been recycled. For example our club got the call W0EF
in 1994. Before that we were KB0SAH (1992). We got the call W0EF
in memoriam of an SK member. He got the call in 1977. Prior to that
the call had first been issued in 1924 to another fellow. I was first licensed
in 1963. Now, if I am operating W0EF in SS do I use:
A. 1924 (The year W0EF was first issued)
B. 1963 (The year I was first licensed)
C. 1992 (The year the club was first licensed)
D. 1994 (The year W0EF was issued to our club)
E. 1955 (The year my cousin Frank caught the crabs on liberty in Kobe)
I bet the ARRL doesn't care a bit which date we use, so long as we use the same
number all weekend long.
73, de Hans, K0HB
>From n4zr at contesting.com Sun Apr 28 18:18:23 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SS checks
In-Reply-To: <000601c1eeeb$ccdceb40$6400000a@W5XD>
References: <3CCBF3CF.7030605@comteck.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020428171608.025b6be0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 07:35 PM 4/28/02 +0000, W. Wright, W5XD wrote:
>For any given SS weekend, I feel free to choose either '71 (the year I know
>I made my first QSO--in February) or '70 (because I seem to remember my
>license date was earlier and I am too lazy to research the details).
>
>But after sending 71 for many years, I find I get asked for a lot more fills
>if I send 70. Since I am not a serious competitor and because I really
>dislike the use of databases instead of copying off the air, I still plan to
>send 70 some weekends just to slow down the database guys.
That's good by me, Wayne -- you will join the 50 or so guys last year whose
checks and/or sections didn't agree with the ones they sent me the year
before. That's about 3 times as many as the total number of QSOs I lost
due to copying errors, so there must be quite a bit of check-changing
really going on.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From k5zd at charter.net Sun Apr 28 23:07:35 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Router/Firewall/Network/Internet spot problems?
In-Reply-To: <000701c1eed8$682227a0$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDMEHHDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
And this has what to do with contesting? Seems there are better sources of
networking tech support on the Internet.
Although it could be a welcome change from SO2R and SS checks! :)
K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Robert Shohet
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 17:16 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Router/Firewall/Network/Internet spot problems?
>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I currently am using a Dell Win98 Ver 2 computer with a Motorola SB4100
> Cable Modem and Charter Pipeline - Cable Modem Internet access. I am also
> using Zonealarm Pro Ver 2.6 as my firewall.
>
> My plan was to install a D-Link DI-704P router and then connect
> up my other
> Win98 Ver 2 computer in the shack (a Dell optiplex running on Win
> 98 Ver 2).
>
> I decided to "test" the router by first connecting it to the upstairs
> computer.
>
> I shut down Zonealarm Pro and then hooked up the router and went
> through the
> installation process.
>
> After it was installed, I noticed that I couldn't browse. So I
> went to the
> Appendix and ran the "Ping" test on the gateway address - it passed the
> test. But I still couldn't browse or receive e-mail.
>
> I called Charter - my cable/internet provider and was told that Zonealarm
> might be the culprit but I thought I remembered Zonealarm asking me about
> something and then asking for my password to change it.
>
> I suspect that the Router does work but I am not sure what is
> "blocking" the
> ability of the cable modem and the computer to talk with each
> other through
> the router. I am hoping that someone out there has a Win98 computer with
> Zonealarm and the DLink DI-704p router and can tell me what I am missing.
>
> BTW, after removing the router and reinstalling the cable modem settings,
> everything works fine again.
>
> Any ideas please or suggestions? Thanks for your help.
>
> 73
>
> Bob KQ2M
>
>
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>From steve at oakcom.com Sun Apr 28 20:27:34 2002
From: steve@oakcom.com (Steve Maki)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Router/Firewall/Network/Internet spot problems?
In-Reply-To: <000701c1eed8$682227a0$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
References: <000701c1eed8$682227a0$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
Message-ID: <ir0pcuco4oiarbj4162sogidmhh5n4g8jl@4ax.com>
KQ2M wrote:
>Hi Guys,
>
>I currently am using a Dell Win98 Ver 2 computer with a Motorola SB4100
>Cable Modem and Charter Pipeline - Cable Modem Internet access. I am also
>using Zonealarm Pro Ver 2.6 as my firewall.
>
>My plan was to install a D-Link DI-704P router and then connect up my other
>Win98 Ver 2 computer in the shack (a Dell optiplex running on Win 98 Ver 2).
>
>I decided to "test" the router by first connecting it to the upstairs
>computer.
>
>I shut down Zonealarm Pro and then hooked up the router and went through the
>installation process.
>
>After it was installed, I noticed that I couldn't browse. So I went to the
>Appendix and ran the "Ping" test on the gateway address - it passed the
>test. But I still couldn't browse or receive e-mail.
>
>I called Charter - my cable/internet provider and was told that Zonealarm
>might be the culprit but I thought I remembered Zonealarm asking me about
>something and then asking for my password to change it.
>
>I suspect that the Router does work but I am not sure what is "blocking" the
>ability of the cable modem and the computer to talk with each other through
>the router. I am hoping that someone out there has a Win98 computer with
>Zonealarm and the DLink DI-704p router and can tell me what I am missing.
>
>BTW, after removing the router and reinstalling the cable modem settings,
>everything works fine again.
>
>Any ideas please or suggestions? Thanks for your help.
Your gateway address may now be your router, in which case the
ping test only tells you that your home network is working.
Ordinarily you must notify your cable co. of your new MAC address
(the router's MAC address). After you do that, connectivity to the
outside world will REQUIRE that you have the router in line.
73
--
Steve K8LX
>From n5nj at gte.net Sun Apr 28 21:39:28 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (Bob Naumann - N5NJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Rules
References: <001901c1eed2$f594d840$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
<00ec01c1eeef$264a9120$4215be3f@bigguy>
Message-ID: <002d01c1ef1e$b3f94640$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
K4WW stated:
> Several years ago the question of "check" came up while discussing a
> m/o using W4CN (class of 27), and we were advised "that in a m/o, the
check
> should be that of the callsign being used"!
K0HB queried:
" Now, if I am operating W0EF in SS do I use:
> A. 1924 (The year W0EF was first issued)
> B. 1963 (The year I was first licensed)
> C. 1992 (The year the club was first licensed)
> D. 1994 (The year W0EF was issued to our club)
> E. 1955 (The year my cousin Frank caught the crabs on liberty in Kobe) "
The correct answer would be "C".
Because:
The callsign being used was issued to the club, and 1992 was the year the
club was first licensed.
Does it matter really? Nope.
73,
N5NJ
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Sun Apr 28 19:49:16 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
References: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Message-ID: <012b01c1ef20$12e4eff0$ede3c23f@KR6X.ORG>
I've been struggling over this one for the past two days. Here's my
answer:
If I were asked this question by the sponsors of the SS, I'd probably
suggest that a liberal interpretation of the rules was in order. I'd
probably
take the attitude that it doesn't really matter to me whether someone
used
his real check or some other number.
If I were beaten by one contact in a contest where the leader took a
liberal interpretation and sent 55 on CW where his real check was 01,
I would probably not complain bitterly and suggest that the leader be
disqualified for violating the rules.
But if I were the sponsor of the contest and I received a complaint
from
a second place operator who might have been in first place but for the
liberal interpretation that the leader took, I'd be forced to
interpret the
rules strictly, no matter what my personal opinion was.
So here I am, not in the position of a sponsor, but in the position of
a
friend being asked for advice prior to the contest while you still
have
choices. Honestly my best advice as a friend is that you should avoid
being challenged by second place; make certain you follow the strict
interpretation of the rules so that you will never be put in the
embarrassing position of being disqualified for such a pitifully tiny
issue.
KR6X
----- Original Message -----
From: <al_lorona@agilent.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 5:34 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
>
> Hi, Everybody,
>
> I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a
different check
> than my correct check. On purpose. I think I used something like
'55' in the
> CW SS, and '00' in the phone SS. Why did I do this? I guess I
thought it
> would be cool to try out another number. Or to alleviate boredom. I
don't
> know.
>
> I had talked it over with a friend before the contest and we came to
the
> conclusion that it would not be against the spirit of the rules to
do so.
> After all, the SS check is only a simulation of a real check anyway,
which
> of course is the word count of a message. And it's not the same as
changing
> your precedence or your section, which would have very serious
consequences
> for you and for others.
>
> I suspect that some folks couldn't care less what check I sent,
while others
> may take exception to the practice. I want to hear all sides,
because I'm
> thinking of doing it again.
>
> Regards,
>
> Al W6LX
>
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>From ah3c at frii.com Mon Apr 29 06:33:38 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
References: <000701c1ee37$4525c640$6400a8c0@workstation1>
<011001c1eeae$55f67560$934afea9@TL01>
Message-ID: <002a01c1ef71$b5b0f2a0$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Mark,
Great idea! You are welcome to share Buds or Beaujolais and use my '58
check any time. I'll even do mushroom/swiss omelets for the Sunday
doldroms. Who knows, contesting from home might even become fun enough for
me to get back in the fray....We could set some sort of record in the
revised "A" category: Annebriated.
73,
Pete, W0RTT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Beckwith" <swca@swbell.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
> I think if Al wants to send "55" as his check but it is not the year he
was
> first licensed, he must first find an op who was licensed in 55 like
Charles
> there. Charlie goes to Al's house, drinks the beer and eats the
sandwiches,
> and Al enter Multi-Single.
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
>
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>From Cqtestk4xs at aol.com Mon Apr 29 10:50:26 2002
From: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com (Cqtestk4xs@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Checks in SS
Message-ID: <34.26c0172d.29fea9a2@aol.com>
I really don't do much posting, but this thread is interesting. Who gives a
fat rat's tail what the check is. Other than for data analysis, one check is
as good as another. I have used 62 for years, but if the urge overcomes me,
I may use 73, 88 or some other number.
Is changing your check any different than "borrowing" a friend's desirable
call or to have a secondary "club" desirable call where you are the
trustee....especially for WPX? Check the latest claimed scores for WPX.
Lots of once a year calls are in there from some big guns.
Bill K4XS(SS)...aka WK4R(WPX)
>From kg2au at stny.rr.com Mon Apr 29 11:16:17 2002
From: kg2au@stny.rr.com (Jimmy Weierich)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Rules
In-Reply-To: <002d01c1ef1e$b3f94640$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
References: <001901c1eed2$f594d840$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
<00ec01c1eeef$264a9120$4215be3f@bigguy>
<002d01c1ef1e$b3f94640$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
Message-ID: <a05100300b8f3048b1755@[66.24.254.199]>
I became licensed as a novice in 1960. Updated to technician before
the novice expired but let it lapse after the five year term.
Became licensed again in 1994. What year should I use?
To paraphrase a former president, I guess it depends on what "first" is.
I agree with N5NJ.
Best regards,
Jimmy
>Does it matter really? Nope.
>
>73,
>N5NJ
--
Jimmy Weierich, K2LV, ex KG2AU <kg2au@stny.rr.com>
Vestal, NY USA FN12xa
>From W3DMB at aol.com Mon Apr 29 11:27:30 2002
From: W3DMB@aol.com (W3DMB@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re:[CQ Contest] 'bogus' check
Message-ID: <40.1ce8c2e3.29feb252@aol.com>
Since my check was 55 (no sense changing that) I guess I have to find another
way to get an edge.
Perhaps just use initials (GW) like the real OOTs did or change my area
or if that doesn't help - just learn to copy hi-speed cw [probably the best
idea].
Jerry, W3DMB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Beckwith" <swca@swbell.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
I think if Al wants to send "55" as his check but it is not the year he was
first licensed, he must first find an op who was licensed in 55 like Charles
there. Charlie goes to Al's house, drinks the beer and eats the sandwiches,
and Al enter Multi-Single.
Mark, N5OT
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 29 08:28:59 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Florida QSO Party - Claimed Scores 29Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204291428.g3TESx204326@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Florida QSO Party - Claimed Scores 29Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: FLQSOParty@aol.com
Mail logs to:
Florida QSO Party
c/o Ron Wetjen, WD4AHZ
5362 Castleman Dr.
Sarasota, FL 34232
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/SMixed LP
NJ4M(@WD4AHZ) 447 642 63 70 20 408,576 Sarasota Emergency R
AD4ES 444 497 67 70 20 188,745 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
MobileCW LP
K1KI/M 28 7 20 7 1 3,402 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SchoolCW LP
K8GU 50 0 30 0 2 6,000 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABCW HP
W4SO 693 0 87 0 120,582
VE1OP 259 0 67 0 17 34,706
K2SX 243 0 64 0 31,104 YCCC
GM3POI 230 0 67 0 30,820
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABCW LP
K8IR 319 0 66 0 18 84,216 BAY AREA WIRELESS
K5ZD 271 0 65 0 7 70,460 YCCC
NT6K 252 0 64 0 18 64,512 NCCC
W4AU 208 0 61 0 10 50,752 Loudoun ARG
W8RU 182 0 62 0 7 45,136 MRRC
K1KI 194 0 55 0 4 42,680 YCCC
NO5W 142 0 59 0 33,512
K5OT 170 0 64 0 21,760 SMC
AE9B 55 0 28 0 2 3,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed HP
K3WW 247 47 64 27 15 49,231 FRC
K6LA 142 152 55 41 12 41,856 SCCC
W6KC 98 72 39 28 6 17,956
N2ED 96 59 40 20 5 15,060 FRC
K8DX 36 19 20 14 1 3,094 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed LP
N4PN 365 1646 67 121 20 893,376 Panama City ARC
N6MU(@N6NB) 367 228 66 55 20 232,804 SCCC
W8MJ 365 216 67 49 20 219,472 MRRC
N2CU 296 112 64 41 13 147,840 Western New York DX
NY1S 223 54 60 20 14 80,000
K5WO 259 83 66 0 16 79,332 NTCC
N4PK 58 340 0 0 75,696
W8CAR 140 61 49 29 10 53,196 MRRC
N9NE 206 72 61 27 11 48,928 Fond du Lac (WI)
N4CW 114 26 54 18 36,576
W9RE 153 60 58 29 31,929 SMC
K0OU 104 37 45 20 31,850 SMC
AE6Y 86 34 39 15 3 22,248 NCCC
NS3T 79 21 44 17 5 10,919
K5KA 46 6 5 29 2 6,664
AB2E 55 27 50 32 10 6,302 FRC
VE7SR(VE7TLL) 7 11 7 9 1 800
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed QRP
K5IID 239 75 66 34 15 165,900 MRRC
K1RC 190 43 1140 129 102,789
W0ETT 116 54 0 0 9 17,446 Grand Mesa
K4IU 88 31 43 16 13,865 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABSSB HP
K4XS 0 2278 0 124 20 282,472 FCG
VK2CZ 0 44 0 25 1,100
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABSSB LP
VE3BUC 0 89 0 33 4 2,937
KB9UWU 0 41 0 21 1 1,722 SMC
W1DAD 0 30 0 19 2 1,140 YCCC
W6ZZZ 0 19 0 11 209 NCCC
Operators:
AD4ES AD4ES,K9ES
NJ4M W1ROX,WD4AHZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 29 08:31:15 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 SPDX RTTY Contest - All Claimed Scores 29Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204291431.g3TEVFa04340@localhost.localdomain>
2002 SPDX RTTY Contest - All Claimed Scores 29Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: sknerus@polbox.com
Mail logs to:
SPDX RTTY Contest Manager
Christopher Ulatowski
Box 253
81-963 Gdynia 1
Poland
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op HP
SQ6Z(@SP6YAQ) 664 4269 172 24 5,711,922
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
AA5AU 175 78 1272 5 595,296
VA3DX 125 1093 60 4 327,900
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
GU0SUP 225 1475 106 938,100
PA5AT 258 1562 110 14 859,100
VE9DX 102 782 63 5 295,596
SV1XV 103 603 81 15 293,058
Operators:
SQ6Z SP3RBR,SP6RZ,SP8NR
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Apr 29 14:27:14 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K4FCG/M FQP 2,002 - long
References: <179.77cafff.29fec4e6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <036401c1efa3$1a9589c0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Congrats to team TOad - once again proving TWO TO's are better than one!
N4KM and K4OJ once again activated the club call K4FCG this year - we made a
few driving errors on the first day which team TO was kind enough to correct
on the second day...part of this was due to being a little frazzled at the
beginning of the contest...
The one thing I did not check out BEFORE the contest almost spelled
disaster - I was in charge of the computer/station and N4KM had the xcvr and
antennas installed on his new Nissan - what a great ride for ths trip...
As we connected the gear all together on Saturday morning the laptop wasn't
working - I had loaded all the NA files into it the night before and did
some trial logging and it seamed fine....the problem came in that I had done
this software stuff from home using the AC adaptor.
I had bought an off the shelf DC adaptor for the laptop power and just
plugged everything in - BIG MISTAKE.
The DC adaptor had reversable polarity on the plug and sure enough it was
exactly wrong.
Not knowing what we would find Kevin, N4KM said let's take a look inside -
as a QCAO the thought of opening up a Thinkpad Laptop and doing diagnostics
blew my mind!
After about 45 or 50 screws were removed the power supply board was found
and this little teenie tiny surface mount fuse, about the size of a grain of
rice - was found to be open....being the weekend with only a couple of hours
until the start of FQP it was decided to bridge the fuse with solder and see
if that was the only thing wrong with the computer. Mind you at this point
I had about soiled my britches...but, sure enough together it went and voila
it booted!
There is a Florida Contest God!
Now that the laptop was working we finished installing all of our gear off
we went - at the start of the contest we were running behind - had hoped to
start in Osceola but since we were running late it was actually Polk we
started in...I was so frazzled I completely forgot we were supposed to
detour into Okeechobee as one of our first counties and by the time I
realised we had missed it we were passed it - thanks to K1TO/N4TO for
covering that one Sunday...
The previous weekend we had gotten together with the Two TO's at a Floirda
cOntest Group meeting and decided to run opposite ends of the state in
oppostie directions each day - that way if one of us had an opportunity to
offer a sweep there would be a greater chance of it happening.
After a couple of hours into the contest activity really seemed to pick up
and for several hours on Saturday afternoon we were able to work as well on
15 as we were on 20 - this was fun since the same core group could work us
in the same county at least twice, now!
We made good time Saturday despite hitting the detour WD4AHZ warned us
about, and ended up adding Pinellas, and Hillsborough as well as Pasco to
our Saturday tally....at the end of the first day N4TO and K4FCG were both
in Pasco - suspect we were going in opposite directions on I75! Could hear
them "blowing by" the filters, hi!
Managed to get going ok on Sunday - we got off a little earlier than planned
so added a side trip to Citrus into the mix...dunno if that is my favorite
county or ORA, Orange!
conditions were definatley not as good on Sunday as they were Saturday, the
killer signals of GM3POI was down to s8 or s9...and 15 wasn't there for
double band core group QSOs
We knew that HA1AG needed Putnam bad so we parked there for almost an hour
and made 88 QSOs - unfortunately no Zoli to be found :-(
Things ran smooth Sunday - with all the activity from KH2D we decided to
skip hittting Northernmost Nassau and just high tailed it down 95
South...because we did that we got to return at the end to Osceola and Polk
counties.
N4KM has a great ride - it was a real pleasure to operate the FQP in style
mobile - the gear worked well - he had two antennas we could bounce
between - a screwdriver and a 20 meter ham stick.
35 Counties
1955 QSOs (1943 on CW)
20 hours...
Biggest QSOs county = Palm Beach @ 134 QSOs - 68 on 20 CW and 65 on 15 CW -
that was fun!
Average QSOs per county = 56
That's almost a hundred an hour average - thanks to everyone who
participated in the FQP, you made it fun for us guys big time!
The N4TO TOads made 2195 QSOs in 44 counties...incredable. between our two
efforts alone there were 4150 QSOs!!!!!
3830 reports keep coming in and it looks like we may have a record number of
county sweeps - including a QRP entrant and a European!
My special thanks to friend N4KM - we had a blast this weekend...if this
ain't what ham radio is about I dunno what it should be!
All of that said, one more thing....
363 Days til the next FQP, 2,003!
:-)
Jim, K4OJ
(+ N4KM ======> K4FCG/M)
>From frenaye at pcnet.com Mon Apr 29 14:30:57 2002
From: frenaye@pcnet.com (Tom Frenaye)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NEQP - a taste of New England
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020429125925.02405780@204.213.232.3 >
The activity in the FQP this past weekend will be tough to beat, but we're
going to give it a try in the New England QSO Party this next next weekend -
May 4th-5th. The full details and rules are at http://www.neqp.org/
We know of at least 200 people in New Eengland who will be active - and that
includes 13 mobiles, 3 portables and several on digital modes. One team even
plans to travel to new counties via small plane. All counties should be
covered (67 of them, the same as Florida...).
It looks like we may have a "clean sweep" of software support - CT by K1EA,
CQPWin by AE6Y, GenLog by W3KM, Logger by N1MM, NA by K8CC (not complete yet),
SD by EI5DI, TR by N6TR, Win-EQF by N3EQF, Writelog by W5XD (being tested
today). Paper logs OK also - the web site has forms for summary and log
sheets.
There are lots of reasons to operate in the NEQP, but K1DG says it best.
Check out the web site (http://www.neqp.org/) for "The Top Ten Reasons to
Operate the NEQP" The web site also has lots of other resources - list of
county abbreviations, county outline maps, list of home stations as well as
mobiles and where they plan to travel, and a list of NE county awards.
Certificates will be sent to everyone who makes at least 25 QSOs, plus there
are 19 plaques sponsored (so far), including one for the person who works a
"Clean Sweep - Not First, but Furthest", and one for the top score from
California/Nevada.
Oh yes, the reason the message subject says "a taste of New England" is that
we're going to send someone a lobster dinner for two, plus another 20 people
will receive some maple syrup or Ben & Jerry's ice cream.
-- Tom Frenaye/K1KI + Bob Hess/W1RH
(questions? --> info@neqp.org )
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
New England QSO Party - May 4-5, 2002 http://www.neqp.org
>From n5nj at verizon.net Mon Apr 29 13:50:25 2002
From: n5nj@verizon.net (n5nj@verizon.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Checks in SS
Message-ID: <20020429175025.IVMU8115.out016.verizon.net@out016>
Using 73 as your check will not help!
My check is 73 and I get asked for repeats of my check very often. I think
people don't trust that they've heard that commonly heard combination and have
to be certain that they are not miscopying it.
My guess is that a combination that is unusual that forces you to pay attention
will be copied more carefully.
1 A N5NJ 73 NTX
>
> From: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Checks in SS
>
> I really don't do much posting, but this thread is interesting. Who gives a
> fat rat's tail what the check is. Other than for data analysis, one check is
> as good as another. I have used 62 for years, but if the urge overcomes me,
> I may use 73, 88 or some other number.
> Is changing your check any different than "borrowing" a friend's desirable
> call or to have a secondary "club" desirable call where you are the
> trustee....especially for WPX? Check the latest claimed scores for WPX.
> Lots of once a year calls are in there from some big guns.
> Bill K4XS(SS)...aka WK4R(WPX)
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>From al_lorona at agilent.com Mon Apr 29 15:10:03 2002
From: al_lorona@agilent.com (LORONA,AL (A-USA,ex3))
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
Message-ID: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10DB@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
When I operated the (entire) SS with the 'bogus' check, I really didn't
think about whether it would be an advantage or a disadvantage. I thought it
would be a morally and contest-ually (sic) neutral decision. Did I break the
rules? Yes. But gaining a competitive edge wasn't one of the reasons I had
for changing my check. I just wanted to program my memory keyer with a
different number.
Somebody said that, primarily because of all of the master databases in use,
that doing so could actually have been detrimental due to the higher
potential for error on the part of the station 'copying' my exchange.
However, Leigh has turned the discussion toward the possibility of it being
an *advantage*, presumably because of my specifically using the check '55'
as the example. Leigh, please correct me if I am mis-reading your
statements.
If Leigh is saying what I think he's saying, and if we are going to stick
with a strict interpretation of the SS rules regarding the check then some
of us have built-in advantages that *can't be overcome by the others*. That
is, if you are one of the lucky 55ers, you will always have the advantage
over, say, a 91er. Interesting, huh?
There was no doubt in my mind when I did it that I was in violation of the
*letter* of the law. That's why I referred to the spirit of the law in my
original post. Perhaps the only regret I had was that I skewed the
statistics of those who like to glean information from all of the checks.
Yet, (as somebody has already pointed out) if I use my club call with its
check of '97', that certainly isn't indicative of my real age in the hobby.
That in itself is a skewing of the statistics, isn't it?
Because of the balanced arguments on both sides of this issue, I believe
that without thinking too much about it, the decision I made really was
close to neutral.
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Mon Apr 29 16:21:06 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Book
In-Reply-To: <20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>; from Mike Gilmer -
N2MG on Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 09:33:14AM -0800
References: <20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>
Message-ID: <20020429152106.Q12630@cs.utexas.edu>
Any news on a contesting book?
--
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Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Apr 29 21:01:27 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Breakdown - K4FCG/Mobile Multi-Single
Message-ID: <043d01c1efda$2d1a6ca0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
de K4OJ - hope this registers somewhat, formatting may get screwy - if
anyone wants the Excel version I will send it off reflector....anxious to
compare notes with the TO Twosome who had even more QSOs than we did - they
hit 9 more counties and made 250 more QSOs than we did - our computer and
paddle was smoking - theirs must have been on fire!
Initial breakdown stats
K4FCG/Mobile - K4OJ + N4KM - FQP 2002
CTY Total CW Q SSB Q
QSOs 40 20 15 10 40 20 15 10
ALC 53 48 5
BAK 44 44
BRA 54 54
CHA 62 61 1
CIT 44 44
CLA 27 27
CLM 56 56
CLR 62 47 14 1
DUV 58 58
FLG 48 44 4
GLA 58 37 21
HAM 64 59 4 1
HEN 74 39 34 1
HER 41 6 35
HIL 44 16 28
IDR 44 32 12
LEE 91 52 39
MAO 51 44 7
MRT 29 15 14
MTE 60 14 46
ORA 48 6 42
OSC 43 2 41
PAL 134 68 65 1
PAS 85 45 40
PIN 42 9 33
POL 64 64
PUT 88 76 11 1
SAR 55 8 47
SEM 36 29 7
STJ 39 37 2
STL 36 25 11
SUM 51 47 3 1
SUW 55 55
UNI 63 58 5
VOL 52 39 13
1955 Total
There were definately regional propagation trends - form FL we seemed to
land in the right places on 20 meters asd far as most QSOs to be had - even
though 15 was very solid to the West most of the crew out there was at the
Visalia convention I suspect!
CW
40 106
20 1571
15 265
10 1
SSB
40 0
20 11
15 1
10 0
cw=1943
ssb=12
1955/35 counties 56 QSO/CTY AVG
1955/20 hours 98 QSO/Hour Avg
Now for a good nights rest...again special thanks to running mate N4KM and
W1CW/W1YL for emotional and culinary support.
Jim, K4OJ
>From ah3c at frii.com Mon Apr 29 21:54:33 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Book
References: <20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>
<20020429152106.Q12630@cs.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <003a01c1eff2$5c5ce340$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Did you ever read Bill Zachary's great "Contest Cook Book"?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth E. Harker" <kharker@cs.utexas.edu>
To: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>; <wd3q@erols.com>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest Book
> Any news on a contesting book?
>
> --
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kharker@cs.utexas.edu
> University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign:
WM5R
> Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest
Club
> Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on
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>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Tue Apr 30 09:23:50 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] bogus/dodgy spotting
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEAKDGAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
For those inclined to want to trace the source of
some of the questionable contest spots.....there
is a regular source of EU origin on CQDXirc, and
probably dxSummit. Today, he's using F0OL, and N0QRM,
and N1LID. The content makes it clear that he's in EU,
and that it's the same source for all three callsigns.
He's been at it for a solid hour or more, now.
There should be ample opportunity before contests to
track this guy down, if you have the capability.
n2ea
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 30 09:05:28 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Florida QSO Party - Claimed Scores 30Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204301505.g3UF5SM05245@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Florida QSO Party - Claimed Scores 30Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: FLQSOParty@aol.com
Mail logs to:
Florida QSO Party
c/o Ron Wetjen, WD4AHZ
5362 Castleman Dr.
Sarasota, FL 34232
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/SMixed HP
VE7FO 62 3 37 3 9 5,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/SMixed LP
NJ4M(@WD4AHZ) 447 642 63 70 20 408,576 Sarasota Emergency R
AD4ES 444 497 67 70 20 188,745 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
MobileCW LP
K1KI/M 28 7 20 7 1 3,402 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
MobileMixed LP
NF4A/M 953 189 446 139 20 159,932 Panama City ARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SchoolCW LP
K8GU 50 0 30 0 ~2 6,000 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SchoolMixed LP
W7UQ(KL9A) 90 47 43 26 4 29,964 WWYC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABCW HP
W4SO 693 0 87 0 120,582
VE1OP 259 0 67 0 17 34,706
K2SX 243 0 64 0 31,104 YCCC
GM3POI 230 0 67 0 30,820
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABCW LP
K8IR 319 0 66 0 18 84,216 BAY AREA WIRELESS
K5ZD 271 0 65 0 7 70,460 YCCC
NT6K 252 0 64 0 18 64,512 NCCC
W4AU 208 0 61 0 10 50,752 Loudoun ARG
W8RU 182 0 62 0 7 45,136 MRRC
K1KI 194 0 55 0 4 42,680 YCCC
NO5W 142 0 59 0 33,512
K5OT 170 0 64 0 21,760 SMC
K3FT 77 0 42 0 4 6,308 PVRC
AE9B 55 0 28 0 2 3,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed HP
W4SAA 485 456 67 69 20 193,936 SFDXA
HA1AG 220 110 0 0 59,950
K3WW 247 47 64 27 15 49,231 FRC
K6LA 142 152 55 41 12 41,856 SCCC
K4BAI 252 24 65 12 13 40,656 SECC
K5YAA 275 68 65 26 39,552 OkDX
W6KC 98 72 39 28 6 17,956
N2ED 96 59 40 20 5 15,060 FRC
KO7X(@KI7WX) 110 41 40 3 4 11,223 PVRC
K8DX 36 19 20 14 1 3,094 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed LP
N4PN 365 1646 67 121 20 893,376 Panama City ARC
K4FQP(K5KG) 679 467 74 65 20 507,350 FCG
N6MU(@N6NB) 367 228 66 55 20 232,804 SCCC
W8MJ 365 216 67 49 20 219,472 MRRC
N2CU 296 112 64 41 13 147,840 Western New York DX
NY1S 223 54 60 20 14 80,000
K5WO 259 83 66 0 16 79,332 NTCC
N4PK 58 340 0 0 75,696
W8CAR 140 61 49 29 10 53,196 MRRC
N9NE 206 72 61 27 11 48,928 Fond du Lac (WI)
K8MR 139 42 53 23 48,640 MRRC
N4CW 114 26 54 18 36,576
N8TC 104 41 50 22 35,856 Bay Area DXers
W9RE 153 60 58 29 31,929 SMC
K0OU 104 37 45 20 31,850 SMC
AE6Y 86 34 39 15 3 22,248 NCCC
NS3T 79 21 44 17 5 10,919
K5KA 46 6 5 29 2 6,664
AB2E 55 27 50 32 10 6,302 FRC
VE7SR(VE7TLL) 7 11 7 9 1 800
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 18 1 14 1 1 285
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed QRP
K5IID 239 75 66 34 15 165,900 MRRC
N0UR 278 60 63 21 16 155,232 MWA
K1RC 190 43 1140 129 102,789
W0ETT 116 54 0 0 9 17,446 Grand Mesa
4IU 88 31 43 16 13,865 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABSSB HP
K4XS 0 2278 0 124 20 282,472 FCG
VK2CZ 0 44 0 25 1,100
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABSSB LP
VE3BUC 0 89 0 33 4 2,937
KB9UWU 0 41 0 21 1 1,722 SMC
W1DAD 0 30 0 19 2 1,140 YCCC
W6ZZZ 0 19 0 11 209 NCCC
Operators:
AD4ES AD4ES,K9ES
NJ4M W1ROX,WD4AHZ
VE7FO VE7CX,VE7FO
>From jds at twistedoak.com Tue Apr 30 12:00:09 2002
From: jds@twistedoak.com (Jeff Stai)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Book
In-Reply-To: <20020429152106.Q12630@cs.utexas.edu>
References: <20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>
<20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020430105801.00a89ea0@mail.megapathdsl.net>
At 01:21 PM 4/29/2002, Kenneth E. Harker wrote:
> Any news on a contesting book?
well, I have started looking into it, and have been collecting info, but I
was daft enough to say I would do this and then (naturally) got deeply
involved in the start of a new business. Ergo, it is "standing by", as they
say... stay tuned - jeff wk6i
Jeff Stai Twisted Oak Winery LLC
Email jds@twistedoak.com
Amateur Radio WK6I
ROC Web Page http://www.rocstock.org/
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Tue Apr 30 21:14:55 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] bogus/dodgy spotting
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEAKDGAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <000b01c1f083$b25bd7b0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
If it is on #cqdx irc channel or dxsummit with a -@ after the call as I
believe all those probably are, then it is put into the system using the
web interface at dxsummit. I and others have tried to request the logs
that the page says they keep on ip addresses but so far have not gotten
any reply. If anyone know of a contact at that site please let me know,
otherwise it is a good anonymous hole for putting in garbage.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of jljarvis
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:24
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] bogus/dodgy spotting
>
>
> For those inclined to want to trace the source of
> some of the questionable contest spots.....there
> is a regular source of EU origin on CQDXirc, and
> probably dxSummit. Today, he's using F0OL, and N0QRM,
> and N1LID. The content makes it clear that he's in EU,
> and that it's the same source for all three callsigns.
> He's been at it for a solid hour or more, now.
>
> There should be ample opportunity before contests to
> track this guy down, if you have the capability.
>
> n2ea
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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>From k1ir at designet.com Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A little bit about chairs
Message-ID: <bvb2i8mrd58i0ds.300420021709@designet-jsi>
I was looking into office chairs today and found this interesting note about
office chair ergonomics. Thought you might find it useful.
http://www.tifaq.com/furniture/archive/chairs-apr96-brooks.txt
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From ve4xt at mts.net Tue Apr 30 20:46:05 2002
From: ve4xt@mts.net (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Bogus check
Message-ID: <008701c1f0a9$955fb020$0100a8c0@joe>
Hi all,
Forgive me, but I fail to see what all the hand-wringing is about...
I've always sent my "real" check (82), but only because when I first did SS
(in 83), that's what seemed logical and I've seen no reason to change it
since.
But never have I believed that the contest police would be banging down my
door if I used something different. Nobody seems to complain about the name
lottery that takes place with every NAQP (except of course CT users
frustrated that Nostradamus won't fit in the field provided (fittingly, TR
users never complained (I don't know if NA users complained, but I think
they're a bit more laid back anyway (and I've never met one of them WriteLog
guys, but I think they're OK)))).
Anyway, I just hope that if you think this is the kind of issue that will
bring the contest world to its knees, you'll give your head a shake. It just
ain't that important. No significant advantage is obtained (I mean, if
WD4AHZ wishes to use 55, I'm not going to complain) over any advantage
obtained by using the same check every year (for the database users).
When I did SS from WB0O in 1998, I used his check (the real one). It only
made sense, particularly given the database guys. I think my fill rate would
have gone way up had I not.
Kelly
ve4xt
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Mon Apr 1 00:21:39 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Popkin-Grams lurk!
In-Reply-To: <3CA67B10.720@erols.com>
References: <001601c1d755$bac8d340$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020401002004.02a1a770@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
At 21:57 03/30/02 -0500, Chuck K3FT wrote:
>but they are unique, none the less! :-)
I thought that unique meant rare, etc...
From what I hear these are not by any means rare!
73
Tom K5IID
>From khz at atnet.ru Mon Apr 1 05:48:54 2002
From: khz@atnet.ru (Serg Z. Demidov UA1OMS)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Tx-Rx Offset Standards
Message-ID: <00d001c1d920$dee03120$c4b35250@khz>
I also think that the reason of displacement signals is result of the
Doppler's effect. When I giving CQ almost all of the Japanese stations (from
east) calling a little bit above. In other hands almost all of US guys (from
west) are a little bit lower than my frequency.
73! Serg Z. Demidov UA1OMS
http://www.quadrat.ru/qsl
The all-too-obvious answer is the doppler effect caused by the rotation of
the earth, compressing any signal originating east of the U.S.--or should I
wait until Monday to bring this up?
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Silver Ward
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 11:12 AM
To: CONTEST REFLECTOR
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Tx-Rx Offset Standards
I was wondering if there is a different convention for offset standards.
We're all pretty much using the same radios but it seems unlikely that they
are pre-configured by the manufacturer to use different offsets based on the
target market. It's not much of a difference - maybe 200 Hz - but I find
myself leaving the RIT "up a little" when EU stations are answering my CQs.
How about it, EU guys? Is the converse true - that you have to listen a
little lower in frequency when running USA?
73, Ward N0AX
>From zf2nt at candw.ky Mon Apr 1 03:51:52 2002
From: zf2nt@candw.ky (Bruce B. Sawyer)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Dayton Bathtub
Message-ID: <000d01c1d930$95fb0c40$e575883f@ibm1050257>
>I don't snore, chew (anymore), or go with the girls that do.
Is 1 out of 3 good enough? I've got the same problem K7BG does...I think I
can find my way to Dayton OK (first go to SLC , then follow the sun for the
next three days, right?), but once I get there, then what? Anybody willing
to share a spot on the floor in their Crowne Plaza room? I don't snore, but
can't make any promises about the other two. Will gladly share
expenses...on the room. You gotta pull full freight on the other two,
though.
Bruce, ZF2NT
>From ab0mv at ix.netcom.com Mon Apr 1 09:45:36 2002
From: ab0mv@ix.netcom.com (Merri)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OFF Freq Callers
Message-ID: <Springmail.0994.1017683136.0.37526100@webmail.pas.earthlink.net>
And it seems quite a few people call YLs off frequency regardless of
continent/country.
Merri AB0MV
>From g.m.mcadams at worldnet.att.net Mon Apr 1 10:35:52 2002
From: g.m.mcadams@worldnet.att.net (Gary McAdams)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Message-ID: <00c301c1d9ac$5d282980$7ca2520c@computername>
Hello Guys,
I have a question about the WPX contest.
My call is WG7X and with this call, I always
thought that I would be a popular fellow in
the various WPX contests. This has not
been the case, ever, and I have participated
in quite a few of these tests.
Recent rules changes have made Q's on the
same continent worth at least one point, and
with my WG7 prefix I'm also a multiplier.
During the SSB test, I was S&P'in and many
stations said: Thanks for the mult!" and quite
a few gave me the unsolicited "big signal"
report. (DX and Domestic)
So, given that I have a fairly good signal, and
a weird call, I wonder why I could not get even a
small run going? S&P got me to about 350 q's
(and almost every one a new mult) but I could not
get any answers to my CQ's...
Should I expect to be sought out as a needed
multiplier, or continue to participate in my normal
way in the S&P mode? W7's are literally a dime
a dozen and I've always thought that the WPX offered
myself and others a way to be popular, if only
for a short time.
Thoughts?
Gary, WG7X
>From w8ji at contesting.com Mon Apr 1 16:06:28 2002
From: w8ji@contesting.com (Tom Rauch)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Tx-Rx Offset Standards
In-Reply-To: <00d001c1d920$dee03120$c4b35250@khz>
Message-ID: <3CA88584.1369.44DE010@localhost>
> I also think that the reason of displacement signals is result of the
> Doppler's effect. When I giving CQ almost all of the Japanese stations
> (from east) calling a little bit above. In other hands almost all of
> US guys (from west) are a little bit lower than my frequency.
Hi Sege,
I am not sure if you are serious, but this is the day we have for
jokes in the USA. In case anyone takes that serious, it was not.
The earth could rotate 10,000 miles per second, and there would
be no doppler effect.
Doppler only occurs when the path length is changing, not when
the path is moving but staying exactly the same distance.
It could be more a culture thing, that USA operators listen to lower
pitched tones more often than JA, or vice versa. But it is definitely
not earth rotation. Thank goodness, or WWV frequency standards
would not work, and the AM BC band would be full of heterodynes.
73, Tom W8JI
W8JI@contesting.com
>From tomek at sp5zcc.waw.pl Tue Apr 2 12:00:05 2002
From: tomek@sp5zcc.waw.pl (SP5UAF)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SP DX Contest
Message-ID: <19210028770.20020402120005@sp5zcc.waw.pl>
Hello,
I would like to let you know about SP DX Contest. This year event will
take place during the coming weekend (every year the first weekend of
April).
Please visit SP DX Contest WWW
http://www.sp5zcc.waw.pl/spdxc/
There you can find all necessary information: rules, special awards,
contest logging software, information about Polish awards, result from
previous years etc.
Contest rules are published in many language versions (Polish,
English, German, French, Portuguese, Spanih, Norwich and even
Chinese).
We do hope to meet all of you in the SP DX Contest 2002.
73
Tom SP5UAF
(responsible for SP DX Contest WWW)
>From n4zr at contesting.com Tue Apr 2 08:48:33 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Recording software with AGC
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020402084424.0505e020@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
I've gotten my second shack PC set up, so I'm now prepared to record
contests to disk, but I'm encountering one issue. To record everything
that comes from both radios (2 channels in the Mark 5, one in the TS-930) I
think I need to get the audio in stereo at the headphone jack of my 2-radio
box and then combine the two streams into one recording channel. The
combining is no problem, but if I do that, I will have to contend with
varying audio levels.
I'm wondering if anyone knows of a piece of recording software that
implements AGC, or how others get around this issue?
Thanks!
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Tue Apr 2 14:37:09 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020402133709.012cabe0@pop.vnet.net>
WG7X wrote:
>Should I expect to be sought out as a needed
multiplier, or continue to participate in my normal
way in the S&P mode? W7's are literally a dime
a dozen and I've always thought that the WPX offered
myself and others a way to be popular, if only
for a short time.
Gary, your prefix is rare but not rare enough, hi!
Serious SOAB or SOSB WPX contesters will get ~1000 prefixes
in this contest, so one more prefix will only add 1/1000 or
0.1% to their score. As long as conditions allow running
stations at fairly high rates (say 70 or higher), most guys
will simply run and let the prefix multipliers come to them.
The only time I ever tune for stations in this contest is
when rates drop below what I think is a reasonable rate.
In CQWW or ARRL DX, multipliers are worth much more than in
WPX since there are fewer of them. I'm sure the SO2R guys in
WPX were looking for you, but there were just not enough for
you to notice it.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n5nj at gte.net Tue Apr 2 10:09:31 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (n5nj@gte.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Message-ID: <RELAY2Ky8pnidKrlVKv000011ec@relay2.softcomca.com>
Gary,
The answer to your question is not a simple one. There are many factors that
contribute to a station being heard and able to attract many callers.
I know that I remarked to several stations during this past weekend's contest
that they had great signals - but you have to understand the reference points.
The reference points are those stations barely at the noise level and are very
difficult to copy. At times, a station that you can hear clearly, even if he's
S2 or less can have a "big signal". It's all relative.
Now, look at your station. Are you running an amplifier? What kind of
antennas do you have? Directional? Vertical? Dipoles? Those guys you hear
that are 40 over S9 at your place are running stacked yagis and legal limit
amplifiers. Are you?
Next, are you aware of your surroundings? What I mean here is do you know who
is above & below your frequency? Could they be covering you up and you don't
realize it? Is there a pileup on a nearby frequency that you might not be able
to hear both sides of?
If you don't have one of the big stations and want to get a run going, you must
isolate your signal from all of those big gun stations. To make your signal
stand out, find smaller stations to set up near. This is not as easy to
actually do as it is to describe it here, but the ability to gauge the
surroundings is an acquired skill - you almost have to have a "feel" for what's
going on. You also have to have excellent equipment that is working perfectly.
You receiver must be very sensitive and you have to be able to discern weak
signals. I'm not talking about working weak stations, I'm talking about
hearing what's going on around your chosen frequency.
Think about the above comments, and continue the discussion.
73,
Bob N5NJ
Original Message:
-----------------
From: Gary McAdams g.m.mcadams@worldnet.att.net
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Hello Guys,
I have a question about the WPX contest.
My call is WG7X and with this call, I always
thought that I would be a popular fellow in
the various WPX contests. This has not
been the case, ever, and I have participated
in quite a few of these tests.
Recent rules changes have made Q's on the
same continent worth at least one point, and
with my WG7 prefix I'm also a multiplier.
During the SSB test, I was S&P'in and many
stations said: Thanks for the mult!" and quite
a few gave me the unsolicited "big signal"
report. (DX and Domestic)
So, given that I have a fairly good signal, and
a weird call, I wonder why I could not get even a
small run going? S&P got me to about 350 q's
(and almost every one a new mult) but I could not
get any answers to my CQ's...
Should I expect to be sought out as a needed
multiplier, or continue to participate in my normal
way in the S&P mode? W7's are literally a dime
a dozen and I've always thought that the WPX offered
myself and others a way to be popular, if only
for a short time.
Thoughts?
Gary, WG7X
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 2 07:11:24 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 02Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020402071039.00ad8da0@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 02Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to: (see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(BR)AB LP
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB LP
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
K5PI(@W5KFT) 918 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
Operators:
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 2 07:14:18 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 02Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020402071241.00adba30@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 02Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to: (see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
Operators:
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From kl7ra at blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov Tue Apr 2 08:30:43 2002
From: kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov (KL7RA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Message-ID: <03bf01c1da6c$1ede68e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
Gary writes:
>My call is WG7X and with this call, I always
>thought that I would be a popular fellow in
>the various WPX contests. This has not
>been the case, ever, and I have participated
>in quite a few of these tests.
Hi Gary
The problem is the WPX is a rate contest and most of
the serious stations are calling CQ. The other problem
is there are a lot of prefixes in this contest so the single
op has little incentive to search them out.
Here's what to do:
Wait until late Sunday to operate. If no other WG7 prefix
has been active you will be swapped by the M/M, M/S
stations after the first spot. And they will be loud, tired
and hungry.
Good luck.
73 Rich KL7RA
>From n2mg at contesting.com Tue Apr 2 10:30:37 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OFF Freq Callers
Message-ID:
<20020402103038.20183.c002-h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
I think many of them get flustered at the prospect of
actually talking to a girl!
73 Mike N2MG
On Mon, 01 April 2002, Merri wrote
> And it seems quite a few people call YLs off
> frequency regardless of continent/country.
>
> Merri AB0MV
________________________________________________
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Tue Apr 2 14:54:58 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
References: <200204021703.g32H3UAl018918@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <031501c1da84$1d63c2e0$03010a0a@office1>
Gary,
I think the short answer is that now that almost every US prefix possible is
available (with the exception of the KP/NP/WP blocks from 6 thru 0, as I
don't think any of the old old Palmyra KP6 calls are still QRV), no one
prefix stands out from all of the others.
Trust me -- I miss the days when WN3 was a super-rare prefix in the contest!
Someone will always be needing us for mults, but because of the
preponderance of US mults, few will be actively looking for us specifically,
so plan your future strategy accordingly.
I also spent almost all of my limited time this weekend on S&P, and I'm
satisfied with my score (350 Q's, over 250K points), all things
considered -- especially since it was barefoot with verticals.
And no Popkin-grams to date, but the week is yet young...
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
From: "Gary McAdams" <g.m.mcadams@worldnet.att.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Hello Guys,
I have a question about the WPX contest.
My call is WG7X and with this call, I always
thought that I would be a popular fellow in
the various WPX contests. This has not
been the case, ever, and I have participated
in quite a few of these tests.
Recent rules changes have made Q's on the
same continent worth at least one point, and
with my WG7 prefix I'm also a multiplier.
During the SSB test, I was S&P'in and many
stations said: Thanks for the mult!" and quite
a few gave me the unsolicited "big signal"
report. (DX and Domestic)
So, given that I have a fairly good signal, and
a weird call, I wonder why I could not get even a
small run going? S&P got me to about 350 q's
(and almost every one a new mult) but I could not
get any answers to my CQ's...
Should I expect to be sought out as a needed
multiplier, or continue to participate in my normal
way in the S&P mode? W7's are literally a dime
a dozen and I've always thought that the WPX offered
myself and others a way to be popular, if only
for a short time.
Thoughts?
Gary, WG7X
--__--__--
>From windev at inetmarket.com Tue Apr 2 17:07:09 2002
From: windev@inetmarket.com (Gerry Hull)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NAB -> See you there.
Message-ID: <20020402170356.B5C7.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Hi,
Looking forward to meeting fellow contesters at the
NAB ham gettogether next Wednesday...
73, Gerry Hull, W1VE/VE1RM
(Oh, National Association of Broadcasters covention in Vegas, for
those who are wondering.)
Hull Computer Consulting
POB C, Greenfield, NH
Home Office: 603-547-8327
Voice Mail/Fax: 866-823-5473
email: windev@inetmarket.com
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Wed Apr 3 00:51:47 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020403004236.00d8b650@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
Gosh guys, just because I don't have multiple towers, antennas, rigs,
and/or the money to buy them doesn't mean that I am not a serious
contester. Even in the WPX. I love this "sport" and will keep doing it
till I can't do it anymore.
But the question I have always wondered is, is everybody is running,
how are you getting the Q's.
I made possibly 15 Q's this wekend via "running", it was more like a
very slow walk, and I wound up with over 1k Q's and 1.3 million points.
So you should thank us S&P ops and not belittle them(us) by intimating
that we are not serious ops. Absolutely we are serious, and if we weren't
you would have much fewer Q's in the log.
Some people drive Porsches and some of us drive Fords or whatever.
That doesn't mean we can't get to work on time.
73, Tom K5IID
>From david.e.burger at au.pwcglobal.com Wed Apr 3 13:04:43 2002
From: david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com (david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] KT6RU, and odd callsigns VK8AA and 80/75m
Message-ID: <OF33D3F58C.9F20E7C2-ONCA256B90.000F8295@aap.pwcinternal.com>
Dan, you were loud on 40m - but it looked like I worked a few stateside 40m
QRP'ers there as well !
Regarding oddball callsigns (like VK8AA), the real money is on a 6 pointer
and a new mult in one hit, but I cannot access spotting systems where I
operate, so its very much like Rich's comments - just work them and the
mults follow. This was my first serious attempt on 160/80 and 40m...
2003 antenna sketch's are already complete !!
I don't frequent 80/75 outside contests, but as our little 5Khz VK/NA SSB
window was 'busy', getting people to listen down to 3699 for me was a
challenge. Is there a split contest protocol on 80/75 in place like 40m ?
I worked about 10% of what I heard on 80/75, even though US sigs were
10over or more. My wideband 80m antenna was 40m off the ground and 30m
from the beach and seemed to work OK.
David VK8AA
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>From yt3t at absolutok.net Wed Apr 3 12:17:46 2002
From: yt3t@absolutok.net (Kele YT3T)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Economics of Contest QSLing
Message-ID: <008201c1daf8$d0f75820$9de45d50@pentium>
Hi everyone,
as a perrennial QSL designer and printer, I am curious to check if anyone
would be interested to use the following service:
1. Sending QSO data files via email to YU1AO
2. Approving proposed QSL card design and cost
3. Sending funds for the service
4. Having QSLs printed, filled and shipped to bureaus and managers.
This way, many of you can save time and complications, some ink for the
printer... Please note, this is one way process, I am not offering to handle
cards received from bureau/mgrs. Only transmitt. The only paper I am ready
to receive (for this time, in this matter) are your funds.
There are some people who like my designs and prints, and as I am building
(finally) a contest station on the hilltop, additional service is a must, to
make everyone happy :-)
Yes, one must trust that the job will be done honestly as agreed, and that
is probably the main disadvantage of this proposal, but as an ambitious
contester I take a risk to be blamed in the contest community, whatever I
do, and that is just a bit more valuable to me than required pennies.
Please send me your opinions on this subject.
73s
Kele
YU1AO, YT3T, N2KAB
email to yt3t@absolutok.net
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Wed Apr 3 16:14:44 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Yesterdaaaaay
Message-ID: <014101c1db22$4a69c020$5017be3f@bigguy>
The Beatles - Loss Of Logbook (To the tune of "Yesterday")
Yesterday,
All those backups seemed a waste of pay.
Now my log has gone away.
Oh I believe in yesterday.
Suddenly,
There's not half the Q's there used to be,
And log submission's hanging over me.
Oh CT crashed so suddenly.
I pushed something wrong,
What it was, I could not say.
Now my Q's have gone and I long
for yesterday-ay-ay-ay.
Yesterday,
The need for back-ups seemed so far away.
I knew my Cabrillo was here to stay,
Now I believe in yesterday.
(???) 73, de Hans, K0HB
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Wed Apr 3 11:18:07 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <003901c1db33$85fb0480$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
So what do other people think about eQSL.cc change of policy?
The main page of the web site now says:
"We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of our
InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have confirmed."
So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and who by
law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL out of
courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I have
faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc -- now you
are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It seems
that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able to
respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not even be
able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From hamradio at earthlink.net Wed Apr 3 09:49:03 2002
From: hamradio@earthlink.net (Vincent Walton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Address for D44DD?
Message-ID: <41200243317493120@earthlink.net>
I worked a D44DD in the CQ WW WPX contest last weekend, anyone have an
address for this call?
Thanks
--- Vince, K6BIR
--- hamradio@earthlink.net
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Wed Apr 3 12:54:38 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
References: <200204031702.g33H2aAl007367@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <04fe01c1db39$2b909900$03010a0a@office1>
Tom,
I'm not sure where you're coming from. When I say that I'm not "serious" in
a contest, that only means that I'm out there to hand out Q's, usually S&P,
for the benefit of other operators. It's a recognition that my interest in
a high score in that particular contest isn't there, for whatever reason.
Maybe my equipment's not up to snuff due to my location. But usually it's
because I have limited time to devote to that particular contest due to
time, work, family, or other neccesary tasks & obligations.
A contest I'll take "seriously" is one where I am planning a strategy in an
effort to place highly or even win. For example, I put a "serious" effort
into ARRL DX Phone this year and did very well for myself. Most years I put
a "serious" effort into the PA QSO Party, either for myself and/or my
club -- I've helped out a lot behind the scenes the last few years with the
club efforts and we're getting some really good contesters out of the
effort. And so on.
So saying that I'm not "serious" is not by any means belittling nor should
it be interpreted as such. It's just an indication of how hard I worked at
it. I sure wish I could put a serious effort into most of the major
contests, it's just not possible right now.
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
From: Tom Horton <k5iid@ntelos.net>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
Gosh guys, just because I don't have multiple towers, antennas, rigs,
and/or the money to buy them doesn't mean that I am not a serious
contester. Even in the WPX. I love this "sport" and will keep doing it
till I can't do it anymore.
But the question I have always wondered is, is everybody is running,
how are you getting the Q's.
I made possibly 15 Q's this wekend via "running", it was more like a
very slow walk, and I wound up with over 1k Q's and 1.3 million points.
So you should thank us S&P ops and not belittle them(us) by intimating
that we are not serious ops. Absolutely we are serious, and if we weren't
you would have much fewer Q's in the log.
Some people drive Porsches and some of us drive Fords or whatever.
That doesn't mean we can't get to work on time.
73, Tom K5IID
>From dhenderson at arrl.org Wed Apr 3 14:15:24 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2001 ARRL Ten Meter Contest Logs Received
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B7687@KAHLESS>
The list of Logs Received for the 2001 ARRL Ten Meter Contest has been
posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
If you find an error in your listing, or if your listing is missing, please
contact me at n1nd@arrl.org. Please have your receipt number available if
you submitted electronically.
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From dhenderson at arrl.org Wed Apr 3 14:55:33 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Logs Received posted for 2001 ARRL 160-Meter Contest
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B7688@KAHLESS>
The list of Logs Received for the 2001 ARRL 160-Meter Contest has been
posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
If you find an error in your listing, or if your listing is missing, please
contact me at n1nd@arrl.org. Please have your receipt number available if
you submitted electronically.
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Wed Apr 3 20:07:17 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
In-Reply-To: <04fe01c1db39$2b909900$03010a0a@office1>
References: <200204031702.g33H2aAl007367@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020403200113.00c84b00@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
Ron,
I agree with you.
What I was getting at is that apparently some folks think that
if you are not a big gun and don't get over 1000 prefixes in
the WPX contest, then you are not a serious contester.
I've been contesting probably as long as most anyone on this
reflector and a heck of a lot more than most that are here.
No, I have never won a big contest nationally , but I do and have
won my section several times over the years. I've placed in the
Top Ten in a few. So to intimate that, since I only got 523 prefixes
last weekend, I am not a serious contester I really don't
think is accurate.
That's all I was saying.
73, Tom K5IID
At 12:54 04/03/02 -0500, Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
>Tom,
>
>I'm not sure where you're coming from. When I say that I'm not "serious" in
>a contest, that only means that I'm out there to hand out Q's, usually S&P,
>for the benefit of other operators. It's a recognition that my interest in
>a high score in that particular contest isn't there, for whatever reason.
>Maybe my equipment's not up to snuff due to my location. But usually it's
>because I have limited time to devote to that particular contest due to
>time, work, family, or other neccesary tasks & obligations.
>
>A contest I'll take "seriously" is one where I am planning a strategy in an
>effort to place highly or even win. For example, I put a "serious" effort
>into ARRL DX Phone this year and did very well for myself. Most years I put
>a "serious" effort into the PA QSO Party, either for myself and/or my
>club -- I've helped out a lot behind the scenes the last few years with the
>club efforts and we're getting some really good contesters out of the
>effort. And so on.
>
>So saying that I'm not "serious" is not by any means belittling nor should
>it be interpreted as such. It's just an indication of how hard I worked at
>it. I sure wish I could put a serious effort into most of the major
>contests, it's just not possible right now.
>
>73, ron wn3vaw
>
>"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
>
>-- The Firesign Theatre
>
>----- Original Message -----
>To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>From: Tom Horton <k5iid@ntelos.net>
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
>
>Gosh guys, just because I don't have multiple towers, antennas, rigs,
>and/or the money to buy them doesn't mean that I am not a serious
>contester. Even in the WPX. I love this "sport" and will keep doing it
>till I can't do it anymore.
>But the question I have always wondered is, is everybody is running,
>how are you getting the Q's.
> I made possibly 15 Q's this wekend via "running", it was more like a
>very slow walk, and I wound up with over 1k Q's and 1.3 million points.
>So you should thank us S&P ops and not belittle them(us) by intimating
>that we are not serious ops. Absolutely we are serious, and if we weren't
>you would have much fewer Q's in the log.
>Some people drive Porsches and some of us drive Fords or whatever.
>That doesn't mean we can't get to work on time.
>73, Tom K5IID
>
>
>
>
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>From a.annesi at libero.it Wed Apr 3 22:10:34 2002
From: a.annesi@libero.it (Alberto Annesi - IV3TAN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: R: [CQ-Contest] Address for D44DD?
References: <41200243317493120@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <003a01c1db4b$9d5f8e80$9c3e1997@m1f8y5>
Hi Vince,
we was active during the last WPX SSB with D44TD Callsign.
The qsl manager is CT1EKF.
73
de IV3TAN (D44TC and one of D44TD)
----- Original Message -----
From: Vincent Walton <hamradio@earthlink.net>
To: CQ Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Cc: Contest Reflector <contest@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:00 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Address for D44DD?
> I worked a D44DD in the CQ WW WPX contest last weekend, anyone have an
> address for this call?
> Thanks
>
> --- Vince, K6BIR
> --- hamradio@earthlink.net
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>From k1ir at designet.com Wed Apr 3 20:37:06 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <s1h8xf5bc0ebapn.030420022037@designet-jsi>
Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we can
call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the point? If
you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We submit the
information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review their
logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one, but I
don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks are off
by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line QSL - no
QSO - and no way to track it.
What do the DXCC Rules say?
"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply, written
proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be submitted
directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . . Staff may
accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
and,
"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call signs of
both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and date, time
and band."
For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new double-blind
confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic QSLing.
It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure to get
them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether printed or
electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL DXCC
policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From K4tmc at aol.com Wed Apr 3 21:03:12 2002
From: K4tmc@aol.com (K4tmc@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April CQ arrives
Message-ID: <c9.20099b03.29dd0e60@aol.com>
Front cover photo of W0GG in his neat shack with details of his station
inside.
Contest related items:
Results - 2001 CQ WW WPX CW Contest
The (Golden) Triangle of Contesting in Poland
Contesting - CQ's 2002 Contest Survey
Propagation - Cycle 23 is Dying (Not)
Our Readers Say - Limit Contesting Frequencies (letter)
Other interesting items:
Zero Bias (editorial) - Lobbying 101
Public Service - President Bush Praises Hams, Calls for More Volunteering
The Impact of Solar Storms on World Economies and the Birth of A New
Commodities Trading Technique (remember what month this is)
The Heyday of CW at Sea, Part II, A radio Operator's Life at Sea
Reader Survey - questions about antenna restriction experiences
Make Your Mobile Mic "Hands Free"
Softbrewing a Logbook, A Primer For Database Design
World of Ideas - Keys 2002, New, Old, and Always Terrific!, Part II
QRP - More Build'em Notes and FT-817 Tips
DX - Getting the DX, Keep Your Cool and Listen!
VHF Plus - Sunspots: Downhill? Not So Fast!
Ads:
Sorry, no ad for the "new" series of Mark-V FT-1000MP Marine, Aeronautical,
Silver, Gold, etc. rigs? maybe next April!
73 & High Rates,
Henry Pollock - K4TMC
Raleigh, NC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 3 19:46:34 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 03Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204040346.g343kYt04764@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 03Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
A new era has begun for producing contest summaries. In the past, it
would be neccessary for individuals to collect and format the data
at periodic intervals and then mail out the results. The Web Submission form by
Bruce/WA7BNM was a big improvement as it allowed the data to be parsed and
imported by software. The next logical leap is to have a database itself
produce reports and we are close to that that point. The data being input into
the Web Submission pages is going into a database and reports can be produced
at whim. All the WPX reports including this one have been generated from that
database. The possibilities are endless. For now, while the system gets
fine-tuned and Bruce refines the system, I will continue sending
out the summaries as e-mail. We hope you will continue your fine tradition of
comments and input.
One downside, if you don't use the Web-page submission forms, it's really going
to be hard to show your results in the summaries. For now, Bruce is manually
inputting that data but it's slow and demanding process and probably not
something that can go on for long. This doesn't mean you can't post your own
results to 3830, it just means that they will be delayed for now and may not
get into summaries in the future. It's a lot of work to manually input contest
data and a job I have seriously been considering giving up. Now that the
technology is available to make that job unneccesary, I really implore that you
use the Web-page submission forms IF you want to be in the summaries.
best
dink
comments can be sent to mwdink@eskimo.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(BR)AB LP
WN6K 859 435 29:45 723,405 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
K5PI(@W5KFT) 918 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX(DON) 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM3GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 3 19:47:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 03Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204040347.g343lZ404773@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 03Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
A new era has begun for producing contest summaries. In the past, it
would be neccessary for individuals to collect and format the data
at periodic intervals and then mail out the results. The Web Submission form by
Bruce/WA7BNM was a big improvement as it allowed the data to be parsed and
imported by software. The next logical leap is to have a database itself
produce reports and we are close to that that point. The data being input into
the Web Submission pages is going into a database and reports can be produced
at whim. All the WPX reports including this one have been generated from that
database. The possibilities are endless. For now, while the system gets
fine-tuned and Bruce refines the system, I will continue sending
out the summaries as e-mail. We hope you will continue your fine tradition of
comments and input.
One downside, if you don't use the Web-page submission forms, it's really going
to be hard to show your results in the summaries. For now, Bruce is manually
inputting that data but it's slow and demanding process and probably not
something that can go on for long. This doesn't mean you can't post your own
results to 3830, it just means that they will be delayed for now and may not
get into summaries in the future. It's a lot of work to manually input contest
data and a job I have seriously been considering giving up. Now that the
technology is available to make that job unneccesary, I really implore that you
use the Web-page submission forms IF you want to be in the summaries.
best
dink
comments can be sent to mwdink@eskimo.com
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM3GU(@FM5GU) 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 @12 78,210
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P 1384 599 36 2,479,860
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM3GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Apr 4 05:05:53 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
Message-ID: <006801c1db8e$09a48360$042bfa43@computer>
Quack's
Along with Tom, A serious contestor can work vy hard at it and still not
break 1000 PX , I could have done an all band effort but that is a bit much
as one rapidly approacches bit 70. I did manage 566 on Ten meters only and
had condx not crashed on Saturday, maybe 800 or so. I think that I'm a
serious contestor and have seldom been the big score in any of the DX
contest and Usually not even the top 10. Some could be to do with physical
location. eg: WWA , this just doesn't
make for big time scores where major mults from EU are not easy to get thru
the Aluminum of W1 thru W5, I heard numerious W0 call area stns wrking EU
that were just a trace here. I would recommend that there are many ways to
be serious, Always try to better previous scores , however rember that
conditions play a very big part. The main thing is to have that first 4
hrs of 130 plus average. or manage to dig 100 plus countries from a band .
W4ZV always puts 20 to 40 more 10 M countries in his log than I can manage.
No big deal he has a 40 DB advantage with Location and Antennas. I still
have fun.
CU all In the Next One
Quack aka;Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Horton" <k5iid@ntelos.net>
To: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 21:07
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
> Ron,
> I agree with you.
> What I was getting at is that apparently some folks think that
> if you are not a big gun and don't get over 1000 prefixes in
> the WPX contest, then you are not a serious contester.
> I've been contesting probably as long as most anyone on this
> reflector and a heck of a lot more than most that are here.
> No, I have never won a big contest nationally , but I do and have
> won my section several times over the years. I've placed in the
> Top Ten in a few. So to intimate that, since I only got 523 prefixes
> last weekend, I am not a serious contester I really don't
> think is accurate.
> That's all I was saying.
> 73, Tom K5IID
>
>
>
>
> At 12:54 04/03/02 -0500, Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
> >Tom,
> >
> >I'm not sure where you're coming from. When I say that I'm not "serious"
in
> >a contest, that only means that I'm out there to hand out Q's, usually
S&P,
> >for the benefit of other operators. It's a recognition that my interest
in
> >a high score in that particular contest isn't there, for whatever reason.
> >Maybe my equipment's not up to snuff due to my location. But usually
it's
> >because I have limited time to devote to that particular contest due to
> >time, work, family, or other neccesary tasks & obligations.
> >
> >A contest I'll take "seriously" is one where I am planning a strategy in
an
> >effort to place highly or even win. For example, I put a "serious"
effort
> >into ARRL DX Phone this year and did very well for myself. Most years I
put
> >a "serious" effort into the PA QSO Party, either for myself and/or my
> >club -- I've helped out a lot behind the scenes the last few years with
the
> >club efforts and we're getting some really good contesters out of the
> >effort. And so on.
> >
> >So saying that I'm not "serious" is not by any means belittling nor
should
> >it be interpreted as such. It's just an indication of how hard I worked
at
> >it. I sure wish I could put a serious effort into most of the major
> >contests, it's just not possible right now.
> >
> >73, ron wn3vaw
> >
> >"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
> >
> >-- The Firesign Theatre
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> >From: Tom Horton <k5iid@ntelos.net>
> >Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
> >
> >Gosh guys, just because I don't have multiple towers, antennas, rigs,
> >and/or the money to buy them doesn't mean that I am not a serious
> >contester. Even in the WPX. I love this "sport" and will keep doing it
> >till I can't do it anymore.
> >But the question I have always wondered is, is everybody is running,
> >how are you getting the Q's.
> > I made possibly 15 Q's this wekend via "running", it was more like a
> >very slow walk, and I wound up with over 1k Q's and 1.3 million points.
> >So you should thank us S&P ops and not belittle them(us) by intimating
> >that we are not serious ops. Absolutely we are serious, and if we weren't
> >you would have much fewer Q's in the log.
> >Some people drive Porsches and some of us drive Fords or whatever.
> >That doesn't mean we can't get to work on time.
> >73, Tom K5IID
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >CQ-Contest mailing list
> >CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Wed Apr 3 23:48:05 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
K1IR's post disappoints me.
Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and why is always
the ARRL which is at fault?
Why is ARRL once again being blamed for the conniptions of the 2002 Keystone
Kops over at eQSL, who are ready to sell you a QSL card but can't grasp the
concept that they're acting as a (questionably ethical) QSL manager in the
process? Further, since my understanding (from those involved in the LotW
project) that it's eQSL that chose not to be compatible with LotW or anyone
else, why is anyone else being blamed for anything they do in their own
little world?
If you don't log a QSO and forget to fill out or send a card, and have no
way of following up on it later because of a lack of a log entry (mobile,
portable or otherwise) who's fault is this and why is this blame now being
assigned to LotW which is still a work in progress?
Where is it written that Logbook of the World is going to eliminate the
current use and acceptance of printed QSL cards when everything I have seen
& read to date indicates otherwise?
And most importantly Jim, answer us this: If you think this is a step in
the wrong direction, then what would you have them do? And how would you
make it work? It's easy to crticize and assign blame. You don't care for
the solution? Then what would you do?
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Organization: DesigNET International
Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we can
call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the point?
If
you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We submit
the
information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review
their
logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one, but
I
don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks are
off
by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line QSL -
no
QSO - and no way to track it.
What do the DXCC Rules say?
"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply,
written
proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be submitted
directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . . Staff may
accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
and,
"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call signs
of
both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and date,
time
and band."
For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new double-blind
confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic QSLing.
It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure to
get
them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether printed
or
electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL DXCC
policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 3 21:30:36 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW 160 SSB - Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020403213017.00a153f0@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 CQWW 160 SSB - Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: March 31.2002
E-mail logs to: cq160@kkn.net
Mail logs to: (none, CQ has asked that all logs be e-mailed)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
3830 archives - http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
DX Multi-Op LP
SN8V @SP8YMM 64 0 30 9,810
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
DX Multi-Op HP
KG4DZ 3430 3,231,060
XE1RCS 747 53 27 301,840
EI7M 546 29 44 248,500
4O6A @YT6A 550 18 52 221,600
G3UEG 417 20 51 20 166,700
DL2DBH (DJ9DZ) 312 9 45 17 82,836
M0ABC 376 7 44 1,791
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
DX SO LP
P40A (KK9A) 114 33 7 44,080
IK8HCG 190 3 40 39,474
V31AH (W0AH) 239 39 15 14 32,076
SP9BQJ 152 1 40 31,119 SPDXCLUB
OH6NIO 131 0 35 22,820 CONTEST CLUB FINLAND
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
DX SO HP
OT2T (ON4UN) 704 32 57 398,097
SV8CS 664 19 57 270,028
OH0NL 454 6 52 141,346 CONTEST CLUB FINLAND
LY2FY 433 7 20 141,215 KTU RC
RU6LA 363 2 55 14 109,098
LY2TA @LY7Z 114 10 41 4 33,864
G3SVL 66 6 29 4 12,985
RW4PL 51 32 1 8,320
XE2AC 23 8 3 3 1,221
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
USA/VE Multi-Op HP
N8TR 1068 58 32 33 234,000
VE3DC 674 54 10 209,536
AA4V 580 52 30 8 118,080
AA1K 531 51 28 11 113,602
WD5R 702 54 16 24 109,550
N7GP @W7MCO 608 54 12 24 89,100
NZ1U @KB1H 345 48 25 69,861
K3WW 482 46 12 12 66,758
K3OO 219 17 38 32,285
K3OOO 159 34 6 14,720
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
USA/VE SO QRP
W0ETC 341 50 3 38,531
KR0B (KS0T) 287 50 3 12 33,125
VA3TTT 104 28 1 14,558
WB6BWZ 38 17 0 1,292
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
USA/VE SO LP
VA3RU 478 54 12 154,572
K1PX 773 57 10 24 115,106
AC0W 518 53 7 14 68,640
W1CTN 326 51 16 16 53,868
K0UK 328 51 4 40,700 GRAND MESA
W3LL 288 42 5 23 29,093
AA1UT 206 39 2 21 18,614
K1JT 172 37 6 10 16,684
N8PY 128 123 5 8 11,560
W3MF 139 34 2 3 11,088
N1LW 84 33 3 7,092
W8DRZ 68 30 0 8 4,040
VE3RCN 42 20 3,900
KW8W 70 22 1 4 3,278
N4CW 50 26 0 2,834
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
USA/VE SO HP
VA3KA @VE3QAA 717 57 30 317,898
W4MYA 1177 58 41 27 306,603
VE3PN 680 56 30 22 297,818
WB9Z 1409 58 31 27 297,171
N4UK 1022 57 34 232,232
N3HBX 889 56 24 173,760
K9NR 952 57 19 164,236
K4JNY 838 54 21 143,775
K3NM 677 56 20 124,336
K0DU 739 54 14 25 112,880
W5PR 656 52 20 112,104
NX9T 696 52 17 108,261
K8DX 477 48 25 96,944
K2UOP 602 52 10 13 82,522
W3GH 406 52 17 67,896
K1GU 422 43 10 50,668
N8KM 375 46 12 50,228
AC8G 299 51 10 10 42,212
AA4NC 300 42 15 41,838
K0EJ 400 44 4 40,800
KO7X @KI7WX 313 49 6 4 37,840
VE6JY 156 46 2 35,712
KG7H 274 51 4 14 33,440
N6RO 211 51 6 27,645
K4BAI 207 42 5 18,522
W4HJ 252 34 1 18,480
N3HXQ 166 33 3 3 13,248
K6SE 126 41 3 5 12,488
N7DF/TI9 (N7DF 31 18 4 2 3,410
Teams:
SN8V @SP8YMM SP8LBK, SP8NCF
KG4DZ W4ZYT W4SD N8CH KU4EC N6ZO
XE1RCS XE1JG, XE1KK, XE1ME, XE1VIC, XE1YJY
4O6A @YT6A YU7EU, YT6A
N8TR N8TR,WB8K,W8BIN,KF8UN,N8DMM
VE3DC VE3BK, VE3GCP, VE3VZ, VE3STT, VE3RZ, VA3DJ, VE
3VMO
WD5R WD5R/N5ECT
N7GP @W7MCO W7MCO, N5IA, N7QK, K7LON
NZ1U @KB1H KB1H, N1XS
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 3 21:34:45 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Russian DX Contest - Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020403213420.00a1cba0@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 Russian DX Contest - Final Claimed Scores
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
3830 Archives -http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX M/S
LY7Z HP 2452 618 24 10,755,054
LY1YK HP 2094 533 24 7,744,490
KR1G HP 1160 385 16 3,201,275
N2ED QRP 1153 298 22 2,358,074
W5NN @K5NZ HP 1074 307 24 1,951,599
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SO CW
DL2OBF @DF3KV HP 1560 494 24 5,229,978
ZC4DW (G0DEZ) LP 1429 464 4,959,690
LY2GV HP 1408 4,405,960
K3CR (LZ4AX) HP 1400 431 24 4,076,553
G3LZQ HP 941 410 16 2,782,260
HB9ARF LP 1055 380 20 2,735,240
ES5KJ (ES5RY) LP 998 373 2,539,011
N4BP HP 1001 321 17 2,087,784
AA3B HP 886 302 1,813,510
OH3XR LP 779 344 11 1,769,192
VE1OP HP 931 282 15 1,745,298
YL2LY HP 702 309 10 1,527,387
W8CAR HP 598 236 1,028,724
N2RM (N2NC) HP 577 233 7 993,279
KM5G HP 618 205 809,135
OZ0RS LP 434 232 11 727,552
K8DX HP 307 164 4 334,888
AB2E LP 320 156 316,836
HB9DTM LP 250 147 8 274,743
K5XR (W5ASP) HP 254 116 202,420
WA6O @K6ZM HP 210 103 4 162,740
K7MI HP 213 103 147,290
N2GC HP 200 119 137,207
W4SAA HP 155 116 7 129,688
K1GU HP 168 103 4 108,356
KN4Y LP 125 679 5 84,770
N2NC QRP 65 46 2 22,632
K6III QRP 30 21 2,961
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SO Mixed
SN2B (UA2FB) 2338 572 9,045,608
OZ1AA @OZ7YY HP 1982 533 24 7,771,140
N2NT HP 2067 445 24 6,267,380
HA3OV LP 1603 478 24 5,593,556
YL0A (YL2KA) LP 1411 452 24 4,653,792
VA3UZ @VA3RU HP 1724 000 24 4,399,590
YL2GD HP 1279 437 16 3,993,306
K3WW HP 1225 338 15 2,824,328
OH6NIO HP 1050 339 12 2,266,893
M0TTT LP 792 287 11 1,626,142
SM6DER LP 651 298 15 1,323,120
KQ2M HP 596 249 1,045,800
K4MA HP 449 200 602,000
N4YDU LP 364 166 7 397,736
VA3WN LP 347 131 250,472
N1SNB LP 287 119 4 214,319
KI7Y LP 258 61 191,142
YL2PN LP 182 114 4 148,428
LZ1ABC HP 225 0 60,000
VE5SF LP 102 49 29,743
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SO SSB
LY4AA @LY7A HP 1621 512 24 5,824,000
SN2X (SP2DWG) LP 1008 356 20 2,572,456
W6AAN @WF3J HP 946 266 1,762,250
WB0WAO LP 176 90 18 113,850
VE3AGC LP 127 75 5 71,775
N3GXY QRP 656 67 8 43,952
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/10
HB9CZF HP 393 97 9 286,441
I2WIJ LP 315 86 5 207,776
K2SX HP 316 92 188,508
VE3KZ HP 183 76 3 100,548
W4NZ HP 147 67 2 71,958
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/15
ZC4BS LP 312 97 5 211,654
LY2NXW LP 238 86 131,924
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/20
LY6A (LY2BM) HP 1348 146 24 1,282,026
IK8UND HP 3325 113 18 375,725
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/40
A61AR HP 499 115 439,645
YZ7DX LP 356 98 7 233,436
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/80
S53F LP 435 89 253,027
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
Russian M/S
RU1A HP 3567 732 10,261,176
RF9C @RK9CWW HP 2859 700 24 8,700,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
Russian SO Mixed
RW4PL HP 1626 478 17 2,567,338
UA9FM HP 619 268 11 751,427
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
Russian SO SSB
RA3DNC LP 954 334 1,051,098
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
Russian SOSB/10
UA9YAB HP 1062 139 14 661,640
Teams:
LY7Z LY1DS, LY2TA
LY1YK LY2FY LY3CI
KR1G KR1G W1AAX
N2ED KF2EW, K2AF, N2ED
W5NN @K5NZ UA0OFF, K5NZ
RU1A RV1AW UA1ARX RW1AC RA1AR RA1AIP RA6CO RV3ACA R
N3AZ
RF9C @RK9CWW RZ9CO, UA9CDC, RA9CKQ, UA9CIR, RA9CMO
>From frenaye at pcnet.com Thu Apr 4 08:23:16 2002
From: frenaye@pcnet.com (Tom Frenaye)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Only 30 days - NEQP
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020404081512.038f7d60@204.213.232.3 >
Organizing efforts for the (new) New England QSO Party are going well. We
hope you'll plan to spend some time working New England stations on the weekend
of May 4-5. The full rules and a whole lot more are on the NEQP web site at:
http://www.neqp.org
We are working hard to get all 67 NE counties in CT MA ME NH RI and VT active
during the contest and have commitments for 42 of them already. If you plan
to be active from NE, let us know - we'll add you to our Reserve Your County
(tnx CQP) listing. We're also looking for plaque sponsors - so far we have 8
of them sponsored. Questions or comments can go to info@neqp.org
-- Tom/K1KI and Bob/W1RH
PS: Don't forget the Florida QSO Party the weekend before - a good warm up for
the NEQP.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
New England QSO Party - May 4-5, 2002 http://www.neqp.org
>From wo4o at juno.com Thu Apr 4 07:37:26 2002
From: wo4o@juno.com (R. A. Painter)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <20020404.073749.-1846735.6.wo4o@juno.com>
Wo4o doesn't like it either. nuff sed
73, Ric
On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 11:18:07 -0600 Sylvan Katz <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
writes:
> So what do other people think about eQSL.cc change of policy?
>
> The main page of the web site now says:
>
> "We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of
> our
> InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have
> confirmed."
>
> So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and
> who by
> law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL
> out of
> courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
>
> Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I
> have
> faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
> apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc --
> now you
> are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It
> seems
> that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able
> to
> respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not
> even be
> able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
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>From kr1g at hotmail.com Thu Apr 4 20:23:11 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <F101nk27XcYVJ4w3kXg00002131@hotmail.com>
Although no longer in the LoTW or ARRL loop, and thus speaking only for
myself, I can't possibly see how making the eQSL inbox somewhat more similar
to LoTW has to do with making it "closer to DXCC acceptance".
As I've said before, I like eQSL.cc - its a nice way of sending pretty
pictures around. It does a wonderful job with "QSL images" - or whatever
term you'd like to use. I *like* it! Its pretty cool.
But security has to be designed in from the beginning, not added afterwards.
We might argue over how much security is necessary, but seriously, DXCC
belongs to the ARRL and it's their decision (and of course I happen to agree
with them - but thats the subject of another post)
73
Ted KR1G
> > "We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of
> > our
> > InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have
> > confirmed."
> >
> > So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and
> > who by
> > law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL
> > out of
> > courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
> >
> > Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I
> > have
> > faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
> > apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc --
> > now you
> > are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It
> > seems
> > that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able
> > to
> > respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not
> > even be
> > able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
> >
> > .. sylvan
> >
> > Ô¿Ô¬
> > ----------------
> > Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> > Saskatoon, SK
> > http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
> >
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>From i2uiy at cqww.com Thu Apr 4 15:35:29 2002
From: i2uiy@cqww.com (I2UIY)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
Message-ID: <4.1.20020404202805.0094deb0@popmail.libero.it>
*********************************************
* PLEASE NOTE THE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS FOR LOGS *
*********************************************
EU SPRINT 2002
In 1994 the EU Sprint Gang (I2UIY, OK2FD, DL6RAI, and G4BUO) organized the
first European Sprint contests. For 2001 there have been some rule changes,
introducing an awards programme and bringing the Spring Sprints forward in
the calendar. You can find past scores and other information about the
sprints by visiting the official EU Sprint web site at this address:
<http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/>.
The BIG news is that now we will award a certificate to the winners in each
country but this is not all. Three nice plaques will be awarded for the top
three scores from all four contests combined. Therefore, please red circle
the four EU Sprint saturdays on your calendar, we will be looking for you
starting April 13!
EU SPRINT 2002
The EU Sprint Gang hereby invites you to participate in the four European
Sprint Contests held in 2002.
ENTRANTS: any licensed station may enter the Sprint. European stations can
work everybody; stations outside of Europe can work only European stations.
CATEGORIES: Single Operator ONLY. Only ONE signal may be aired at one time.
DATES:
EU SPRINT Spring:
* SSB: second Saturday in April - 13 April 2002 - managed by G4BUO
* CW: third Saturday in April - 20 April 2002 - managed by I2UIY
EU SPRINT Autumn:
* SSB: first Saturday in October - 5 October 2002 - managed by I2UIY
* CW: second Saturday in October - 12 October 2002 - managed by OK2FD
TIME: from 15:00 UTC until 18:59 UTC.
BANDS: 20, 40 and 80 metres only.
Pilot frequencies are: SSB: 14.250, 7.050, 3.730. CW: 14.040, 7.025, 3.550
EXCHANGE: all of the following data MUST BE PART OF THE EXCHANGE:
a) your callsign,
b) the other station's callsign,
c) your serial number starting from 001 (RST not required),
d) your name or nickname.
Please note that BOTH stations MUST repeat BOTH callsigns DURING the
exchange.
A valid exchange is: "OK2FD de I2UIY 118 Paolo" while "OK2FD 118 Paolo" is
NOT a valid exchange.
SPECIAL QSY RULE: if any station initiates a call (by sending CQ, QRZ?,
etc.), he is permitted to work ONLY one station on the same frequency. He
must thereafter move AT LEAST 2 (two) kHz before he may call another
station or before he may solicit again (CQ, QRZ?, etc.) other calls.
VALID CONTACTS: valid contacts are QSOs correctly logged and confirmed.
Each operator may use ONE and ONLY one name during the Sprint. If the
exchange is copied incorrectly, that operator will receive zero (0) points.
In case of miscopied callsigns, both stations will receive zero (0) points
for that QSO.
SCORING: each valid QSO counts one 1 (one) point. The final score is the
total number of QSOs.
AWARDS: Colorful certificates will be issued to the winners of each Sprint,
and to the leaders in each country. A special plaque will also be awarded
for the top three scores from all four contests combined. To be eligible
for this award an operator must enter at least three of the Sprints in the
year. Results will be forwarded as soon as possible to Leagues, magazines
and bulletins.
LOGS: a single chronological log is required. Please send us your log via
email or on a floppy disk, if you use computer for logging. Use any of the
available software or send a plain ASCII file. A separate summary sheet is
also required. Please send us the right files: for DL2NBU software, send
yourcall.ASC; for N6TR software, send yourcall.DAT; for IK4EWK software,
send yourcall.DBF.
If you want the latest release of the DL2NBU software, you can download it
from the EU Sprint web site: <http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/>.
Log files must be sent NO LATER than 15 days after the contest to:
<eusprint@kkn.net>. The receipt of your electronic log will be confirmed.
If you do not receive a confirmation within two days, try again or use the
postal
system.
Disk logs, or paper entries must be posted NO LATER than 15 days after the
contest to the appropriate address:
* Spring SSB Sprint: Dave Lawley, G4BUO, Carramore, Coldharbour Road,
Penshurst, Kent, TN11 8EX, England, UK.
* Spring CW Sprint: Paolo Cortese, I2UIY, P. O. Box 14, 27043 Broni
(PV), Italy.
* Autumn SSB Sprint: Paolo Cortese, I2UIY, P. O. Box 14, 27043 Broni
(PV), Italy.
* Autumn CW Sprint: Karel Karmasin, OK2FD, Gen. Svobody 636, 674 01
Trebic, Czech Republic.
Thanks in advance for your participation de: G4BUO, I2UIY & OK2FD.
**************************************************
* Download the FREE software: http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/ *
**************************************************
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[ ] Pizza & Pasta Contest Club
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>From k4ik at subich.com Thu Apr 4 15:50:55 2002
From: k4ik@subich.com (Joe Subich, K4IK)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>
> From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:48 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> K1IR's post disappoints me.
>
> Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and
> why is always the ARRL which is at fault?
Why are you saying the ARRL staff is always right? eQSL had a
letter/email which stated that printed QSLs from anyone acting
as a legitimate (authorized) QSL manager would be accepted.
Someone among the ARRL staff changed that after the fact to
require a "double blind" process.
I think the change after the fact and without public discussion
is bad form at the minimum.
> Further, since my understanding (from those involved in the LotW
> project) that it's eQSL that chose not to be compatible with LotW
> or anyone else, why is anyone else being blamed for anything they
> do in their own little world?
Again, why are you being an ARRL cheerleader? eQSL "was there first."
Why did LOTW decide to adopt a system that was incompatible from the
beginning and adopt a "take it or leave it" attitude?
There is room for people to work together *IF* everyone is willing
to be flexible. To take the "play by my rules or I'll take my ball
and go home" attitude does nobody any good.
73,
... Joe, K4IK
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Thu Apr 4 16:04:01 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
> If you don't log a QSO and forget to fill out or send a card, and have no
> way of following up on it later because of a lack of a log entry (mobile,
> portable or otherwise) who's fault is this and why is this blame now being
> assigned to LotW which is still a work in progress?
There is an implicit assumption in the above statement that may not be quite
accurate. It appears to assume that both sides of a qso care about awards
and QSLs. I, for example, don't really care about awards and qsl cards. On
the other hand, I sure want to help those who do by confirming their qso
with me. I don't send QSL cards by mail --- a bit too expensive for my
simple life -- however, eQSLs are ideal. Although, I must admit I have never
initiated an eQSL but I have responded to hundreds of them.
By law I do not have to keep a general log. In practice I don't keep a
general log. I do keep contest logs. After, they are scored, they are
compressed, archived and put on a shelf. Too be quite honest I do not have
the time to search through contest logs, and some months I may have 4
contests logs, to confirm each QSL or eQSL that comes to my mail and
e-mail.boxes.
I rely on the honor system - if a fellow amateur wants an eQSL card from me
then all he has to do is send me an eQSL. I will assume he values our qso
and that he is honorable enough to provide me with accurate information
about our qso in his eQSL . And until the recent change of policy at eQSL.cc
I use to "eQSL 100 percent" but it seems they are forcing me to change my
words to "I never QSL". What a pity.
As others have pointed out, QSLing "is fundamentally an honor system and we
should be striving for ways to implement that honor system as painlessly as
possible."
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Thu Apr 4 17:26:00 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ronald Rossi)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <3CACD2F8.1D5EDC2A@btv.ibm.com>
Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
>
> K1IR's post disappoints me.
>
> Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and why is always
> the ARRL which is at fault?
They were slow to pick up the ball on this issue, but still want to define a
standard and determine the rules. The folks that started eQSL are forward
looking and getting the job done. Double blind is not how it is done for paper,
why should it be done that way electronically? In answer to "how would you make
this work?"...we have a working model.
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron (kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From w7zr at citlink.net Thu Apr 4 16:15:46 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
RO
I just pulled all of my logs from eqsl and will not answer cards through
that service anymore. It's a shame.
Dick W7ZR
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sylvan Katz" <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> > If you don't log a QSO and forget to fill out or send a card, and have
no
> > way of following up on it later because of a lack of a log entry
(mobile,
> > portable or otherwise) who's fault is this and why is this blame now
being
> > assigned to LotW which is still a work in progress?
>
> There is an implicit assumption in the above statement that may not be
quite
> accurate. It appears to assume that both sides of a qso care about awards
> and QSLs. I, for example, don't really care about awards and qsl cards. On
> the other hand, I sure want to help those who do by confirming their qso
> with me. I don't send QSL cards by mail --- a bit too expensive for my
> simple life -- however, eQSLs are ideal. Although, I must admit I have
never
> initiated an eQSL but I have responded to hundreds of them.
>
> By law I do not have to keep a general log. In practice I don't keep a
> general log. I do keep contest logs. After, they are scored, they are
> compressed, archived and put on a shelf. Too be quite honest I do not have
> the time to search through contest logs, and some months I may have 4
> contests logs, to confirm each QSL or eQSL that comes to my mail and
> e-mail.boxes.
>
> I rely on the honor system - if a fellow amateur wants an eQSL card from
me
> then all he has to do is send me an eQSL. I will assume he values our qso
> and that he is honorable enough to provide me with accurate information
> about our qso in his eQSL . And until the recent change of policy at
eQSL.cc
> I use to "eQSL 100 percent" but it seems they are forcing me to change my
> words to "I never QSL". What a pity.
>
> As others have pointed out, QSLing "is fundamentally an honor system and
we
> should be striving for ways to implement that honor system as painlessly
as
> possible."
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> "A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
>From rhodes at evertek.net Thu Apr 4 17:18:02 2002
From: rhodes@evertek.net (Jim Rhodes)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <003901c1db33$85fb0480$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020404170941.00a0bd90@pop3.evertek.net>
Let me get this straight. You may or may not keep a log, that is up to you.
They are now saying that if you can't confirm the QSO because you don't
have a log, then you can't view the card, so you can't get the QSO data
from THEIR card so that you know what to put on your card. In other works
if I needed a card from VE5 all I would have had to do was send you a card
with made up information on it & you would have put the same information on
your card and posted it back to me. to me this just confirms that they
needed to close that avenue. If I can't confirm a QSO I don't send an QSL,
paper or e. If you do then you are not really helping the system.
Or am I mistaken. Is there another reason that you would be unable to
confirm a QSO?
At 11:18 AM 4/3/02, Sylvan Katz wrote:
>So what do other people think about eQSL.cc change of policy?
>
>The main page of the web site now says:
>
>"We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of our
>InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have confirmed."
>
>So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and who by
>law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL out of
>courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
>
>Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I have
>faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
>apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc -- now you
>are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It seems
>that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able to
>respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not even be
>able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
>
>.. sylvan
>
>????
>----------------
>Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
>Saskatoon, SK
>http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
>_______________________________________________
>CQ-Contest mailing list
>CQ-Contest@contesting.com
>http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
Jim Rhodes K0XU
jim@rhodesend.net
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>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Thu Apr 4 17:30:35 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>; from Joe Subich,
K4IK on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 03:50:55PM -0500
References: <079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>
Message-ID: <20020404173035.E25949@cs.utexas.edu>
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 03:50:55PM -0500, Joe Subich, K4IK wrote:
>
>
> > From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:48 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> >
> >
> > K1IR's post disappoints me.
> >
> > Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and
> > why is always the ARRL which is at fault?
>
> Why are you saying the ARRL staff is always right? eQSL had a
> letter/email which stated that printed QSLs from anyone acting
> as a legitimate (authorized) QSL manager would be accepted.
"Legitimate" QSL Managers do not sell QSLs for a fee.
--
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Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Thu Apr 4 18:00:14 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>
Message-ID: <015501c1dc31$e3c17820$03010a0a@office1>
1. I am not saying ARRL is always right. I am saying that ARRL is not
automatically always in the wrong. I disagree with ARRL Leadership on many
issues, and if you don't believe that, go look at the Refarming posts over
on eHam.net
2. I agree with you that no public discussion, or at least announcement,
prior to the change by eQSL was a bad move. And I think it is unfortunate
that the explanation(s) given on the eQSL site, at present, are somewhat
superficial. That is a matter to be taken up with the people who made those
decisions, who wrote the text, and posted everything to the web site. Last
time I checked, Newington wasn't in Texas.
3. My understanding from talking to many people involved with what is now
known as the Logbook of the World project is that it was hoped from the
beginning that there would be some interaction and/or compatibility between
eQSL & LotW. It is also my understanding, based on a direct comment from
one of those participating, that it was N5UP who chose to discontinue
discussions on making the two systems compatible, not the LotW project. And
the big problem is one of security and validation issues, something which
eQSL lacked from the very beginning and still lacks in a big way today.
Otherwise I wouldn't have a "legitimate" P5SLIM eQSL jpeg file saved on my
hard drive.
4. Is it more important to be first or to do it right? If it's not done
right, what's the point in being first?
5. I have been forwarded a statement from N5UP stating that he made these
changes on his own initiative without being ordered to by anyone at the ARRL
staff and/or the LotW project. If this is true, then why is blamed being
dumped on ARRL for "forcing" the change?
6. Am I being an ARRL "cheerleader?" Hardly. I look terrible in
pom-pons and short skirts.
Besides, why does it seem always "in vogue" to bash the League and to bash
anyone who comes out in support of them? And more importantly, who do you
think the League is? The Headquarters staff? The elected and appointed
leadership? The League is it's membership -- too many of whom sit on the
fence and wait for someone else to do something, which is another issue
altogether. I am an active member of the ARRL. I have made it a point to
know the current and immediate past Division Directors, Vice Directors, and
Section Managers. And if I dislike something, I let them know. They may
tell me I'm off base, they may even may tell me to shut up and take a long
walk off a short pier, but I make my feelings known. Do you? (And I'm
lucky that the current and immediate past leadership in the Atlantic
Division listen. I've heard many complaints about other Division Directors
who allegedly don't. But that too is another issue)
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Subich, K4IK <k4ik@subich.com>
To: Ron Notarius WN3VAW <wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:48 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> K1IR's post disappoints me.
>
> Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and
> why is always the ARRL which is at fault?
Why are you saying the ARRL staff is always right? eQSL had a
letter/email which stated that printed QSLs from anyone acting
as a legitimate (authorized) QSL manager would be accepted.
Someone among the ARRL staff changed that after the fact to
require a "double blind" process.
I think the change after the fact and without public discussion
is bad form at the minimum.
> Further, since my understanding (from those involved in the LotW
> project) that it's eQSL that chose not to be compatible with LotW
> or anyone else, why is anyone else being blamed for anything they
> do in their own little world?
Again, why are you being an ARRL cheerleader? eQSL "was there first."
Why did LOTW decide to adopt a system that was incompatible from the
beginning and adopt a "take it or leave it" attitude?
There is room for people to work together *IF* everyone is willing
to be flexible. To take the "play by my rules or I'll take my ball
and go home" attitude does nobody any good.
73,
... Joe, K4IK
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Thu Apr 4 18:47:46 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1> <3CACD2F8.1D5EDC2A@btv.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <01bb01c1dc35$dd1fa2e0$03010a0a@office1>
Ron,
You make an interesting point. Why does ARRL want to define a standard and
determine the rules? Could it be because DXCC is their awards program?
Where they "slow" to pick up the ball? I think they were being cautious.
And maybe a little too conservative for my tastes too. Nevertheless, they
have taken action.
And I'm not sure why a fuss is now being made over "double blind." First,
that is indeed how it is done with paper QSL's -- after all, I send you a
card thinking that I made a contact, but until I either see your log or get
your card in return, how do I know it's there? And until you get my card,
ditto. Isn't that "double blind?" Second, this has been something that
has been requested of ALL on line logs for quite some time, and for good
reason. It is to prevent someone from fraudulently claiming a contact
actually made with another station as theirs as a "busted call." There was
a DXpedition last year where one of the ops posted complete logs early, and
they had to be recalled for that very reason.
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
From: Ronald Rossi <rrossi@btv.ibm.com>
To: Ron Notarius WN3VAW <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
>
> K1IR's post disappoints me.
>
> Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and why is
always
> the ARRL which is at fault?
They were slow to pick up the ball on this issue, but still want to define a
standard and determine the rules. The folks that started eQSL are forward
looking and getting the job done. Double blind is not how it is done for
paper,
why should it be done that way electronically? In answer to "how would you
make
this work?"...we have a working model.
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron (kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Thu Apr 4 16:07:49 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
References: <4.1.20020404202805.0094deb0@popmail.libero.it>
Message-ID: <005101c1dc35$ecefcb00$5a2afea9@sbcglobal.net>
NOW if we could just get Paolo and the ASSOCIAZIONE RADIOAMATORI ITALIANI
(ARI) to reward the winner with a trip for two to Italy to pick-up their
trophy, kind of like they used to do for the Bermuda contest, then we would
really have something. Or at least the pleasure of sharing one of Paolo's
world-famous 2 kilogram pizzas! Over to you, Paolo.
Jim
N6TJ (on as ZD8Z in the upcoming EU
CW SPRINT April 20)
----- Original Message -----
From: "I2UIY" <i2uiy@cqww.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:35 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
>
> *********************************************
> * PLEASE NOTE THE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS FOR LOGS *
> *********************************************
>
> EU SPRINT 2002
> In 1994 the EU Sprint Gang (I2UIY, OK2FD, DL6RAI, and G4BUO) organized
the
> first European Sprint contests. For 2001 there have been some rule
changes,
> introducing an awards programme and bringing the Spring Sprints forward
in
> the calendar. You can find past scores and other information about
the
> sprints by visiting the official EU Sprint web site at this
address:
> <http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/>.
> The BIG news is that now we will award a certificate to the winners in
each
> country but this is not all. Three nice plaques will be awarded for the
top
> three scores from all four contests combined. Therefore, please red
circle
> the four EU Sprint saturdays on your calendar, we will be looking for
you
> starting April 13!
>
> EU SPRINT 2002
> The EU Sprint Gang hereby invites you to participate in the four
European
> Sprint Contests held in 2002.
>
> ENTRANTS: any licensed station may enter the Sprint. European stations
can
> work everybody; stations outside of Europe can work only European
stations.
> CATEGORIES: Single Operator ONLY. Only ONE signal may be aired at one
time.
> DATES:
> EU SPRINT Spring:
> * SSB: second Saturday in April - 13 April 2002 - managed by G4BUO
> * CW: third Saturday in April - 20 April 2002 - managed by I2UIY
> EU SPRINT Autumn:
> * SSB: first Saturday in October - 5 October 2002 - managed by I2UIY
> * CW: second Saturday in October - 12 October 2002 - managed by OK2FD
> TIME: from 15:00 UTC until 18:59 UTC.
> BANDS: 20, 40 and 80 metres only.
> Pilot frequencies are: SSB: 14.250, 7.050, 3.730. CW: 14.040, 7.025, 3.550
> EXCHANGE: all of the following data MUST BE PART OF THE EXCHANGE:
> a) your callsign,
> b) the other station's callsign,
> c) your serial number starting from 001 (RST not required),
> d) your name or nickname.
> Please note that BOTH stations MUST repeat BOTH callsigns DURING
the
> exchange.
> A valid exchange is: "OK2FD de I2UIY 118 Paolo" while "OK2FD 118 Paolo"
is
> NOT a valid exchange.
> SPECIAL QSY RULE: if any station initiates a call (by sending CQ,
QRZ?,
> etc.), he is permitted to work ONLY one station on the same frequency.
He
> must thereafter move AT LEAST 2 (two) kHz before he may call
another
> station or before he may solicit again (CQ, QRZ?, etc.) other calls.
> VALID CONTACTS: valid contacts are QSOs correctly logged and
confirmed.
> Each operator may use ONE and ONLY one name during the Sprint. If
the
> exchange is copied incorrectly, that operator will receive zero (0)
points.
> In case of miscopied callsigns, both stations will receive zero (0)
points
> for that QSO.
> SCORING: each valid QSO counts one 1 (one) point. The final score is
the
> total number of QSOs.
> AWARDS: Colorful certificates will be issued to the winners of each
Sprint,
> and to the leaders in each country. A special plaque will also be
awarded
> for the top three scores from all four contests combined. To be
eligible
> for this award an operator must enter at least three of the Sprints in
the
> year. Results will be forwarded as soon as possible to Leagues,
magazines
> and bulletins.
> LOGS: a single chronological log is required. Please send us your log
via
> email or on a floppy disk, if you use computer for logging. Use any of
the
> available software or send a plain ASCII file. A separate summary sheet
is
> also required. Please send us the right files: for DL2NBU software,
send
> yourcall.ASC; for N6TR software, send yourcall.DAT; for IK4EWK
software,
> send yourcall.DBF.
> If you want the latest release of the DL2NBU software, you can download it
> from the EU Sprint web site: <http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/>.
> Log files must be sent NO LATER than 15 days after the contest to:
> <eusprint@kkn.net>. The receipt of your electronic log will be confirmed.
> If you do not receive a confirmation within two days, try again or use the
> postal
> system.
> Disk logs, or paper entries must be posted NO LATER than 15 days after the
> contest to the appropriate address:
> * Spring SSB Sprint: Dave Lawley, G4BUO, Carramore, Coldharbour
Road,
> Penshurst, Kent, TN11 8EX, England, UK.
> * Spring CW Sprint: Paolo Cortese, I2UIY, P. O. Box 14, 27043
Broni
> (PV), Italy.
> * Autumn SSB Sprint: Paolo Cortese, I2UIY, P. O. Box 14, 27043
Broni
> (PV), Italy.
> * Autumn CW Sprint: Karel Karmasin, OK2FD, Gen. Svobody 636, 674
01
> Trebic, Czech Republic.
>
> Thanks in advance for your participation de: G4BUO, I2UIY & OK2FD.
>
> **************************************************
> * Download the FREE software: http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/ *
> **************************************************
>
>
>
>
> [ ] Paolo Cortese, I2UIY / IQ2A / NH7DX / OK8AFL
> [ ] Pizza & Pasta Contest Club
> [ ] CQWW Contest Committee
> [ ] Eu Sprint Manager
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>From kr1g at hotmail.com Fri Apr 5 03:10:06 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <F114eX2GOC9GBDYnV7j000166f5@hotmail.com>
Jim,
You are not quite right, although close. If the times are off or something
else is wrong (and you probably won't know what, just that you worked
P5/KR1G on 160 and the logs have been submitted and you don't have credit),
you would de *exactly* what you do today - send P5/KR1G's QSL manager,
KC1XX, a note saying "man I know I'm in the log can you double check
please?" And Matt may find a problem, like your call K1IR was logged
correctly on the cheap one-ply toilet paper KR1G used for logging because
his laptop ran erratically on P5 power but copied into the computer log
incorrectly.
As far as being too strict, blame me!! The biggest strength and reason for
the prestige of the DXCC program is its security - yes, you can scam it.
Print your own DL, and G and EA6 and PYOF cards and submit them and they'll
probably pass. Try that with a P5 or VU7 card and it gets *much* harder.
They do catch cheaters quite often I'm told. Any eQSL system MUST be at
least as secure! If its too secure and a too much of a hassle (the two go
hand in hand), it can be loosened later. We did consider possible (in some
cases probable) attacks and some of the "features" are designed especially
for them. Yes, I am Paranoid - its my job :)
73
Ted KR1G
>From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
>To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we can
>call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the point?
>If
>you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We submit
>the
>information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review
>their
>logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one, but
>I
>don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks are
>off
>by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line QSL -
>no
>QSO - and no way to track it.
>
>What do the DXCC Rules say?
>
>"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply,
>written
>proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be
>submitted
>directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . . Staff
>may
>accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
>
>and,
>
>"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call
>signs of
>both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and date,
>time
>and band."
>
>For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
>solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new double-blind
>confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic QSLing.
>
>It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure to
>get
>them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether printed
>or
>electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
>
>Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL DXCC
>policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
>accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
>
>73,
>
>Jim Idelson K1IR
>email k1ir@designet.com
>web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>
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>From k1ir at designet.com Thu Apr 4 23:00:33 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <ooxt6wp5y6ytfss.040420022300@designet-jsi>
>If you think this is a step in the wrong direction, then what would you have
them do? And how would you make it work? It's easy to criticize and assign
blame. You don't care for the solution? Then what would you do?<
No problem, Ron. I would implement the electronic QSL system in a manner that
mirrors the existing paper QSL system. That system would permit a QSL to be
issued unilaterally by one station and received by the other. This is what we
have today in the paper world - and while not perfect, it works. In fact, it
works so well that DXCC continues to be the most prestigious and popular award
program in amateur radio. If it were tainted by significant problems with QSL
credibility, it would not hold this lofty position after nearly 65 years.
I certainly agree with Ted - security needs to be built into the program, and
to me that includes making these unilateral QSLs theft- and copy-proof.
However, if there is a desire to increase the rigor in QSL requirements for
DXCC and other awards, such a decision and discussion should be taken up by the
DXCC team with significant input from those involved in the DXCC program. It
should not be implemented via an end-run by the QSL technologists.
The current approach might be great for the dedicated, web-savvy, hard-core
DXers among us; but it is not going to be particularly attractive to the
newcomers and casual operators that dominate our ranks. The requirement to
upload electronic logs in order to receive QSLs will filter out thousands of
potential users.
Instead, every ARRL member with an email address should automatically begin to
receive electronic QSLs. Totals for all awards should be tracked on-line for
every member. All this should be user-configurable at the ARRL website. This is
the way to drive acceptance and rapid adoption.
Want to ensure that confirmations of rare DX QSOs are harder to forge? Put
special requirements on certain DXpedition logs, extremely rare countries, etc.
But, please don't introduce log transcription or upload requirements just so we
can see the QSL for a 20M DL QSO.
The right way to do this is to start by web-ifying the process we have today,
learning from the initial experience, and finally, make changes that need to be
made - based on sound reasoning.
That's what I think.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Fri Apr 5 04:10:31 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>
Message-ID: <015f01c1dc4f$7378aca0$7a13be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Subich, K4IK" <k4ik@subich.com>
> Why are you saying the ARRL staff is always right?
The ARRL is obviously right on matters related to ARRL,
and DXCC is an ARRL property.
eQSL is also obviously right on matters related to their
program.
With all kind wishes,
de Hans, K0HB
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Fri Apr 5 04:37:24 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <F114eX2GOC9GBDYnV7j000166f5@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <017a01c1dc53$346f7300$7a13be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
> As far as being too strict, blame me!!
"Too strict" is transparent to the honest player.
With all kind wishes,
de Hans, K0HB
>From k0il at arrl.net Thu Apr 4 22:47:02 2002
From: k0il@arrl.net (Ed - K0iL)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Nebraska QSO Party
Message-ID: <01C1DC2A.A3E7D020.k0il@arrl.net>
The Heartland DX Association of Nebraska & Iowa
Invites You To
*** The Nebraska QSO Party ***
April 27th & 28th
1700 zulu Saturday to 1700 zulu Sunday
You just haven't partied until you've gone Cow Tipping at 2am Saturday
Nite!
For complete rules, details and paperwork go to:
http://www.qsl.net/hdxa/neqso/
Cow Tipping not required or even recommended unless you the right boots.
;^)
There are 93 counties in Nebraska but, just like years past, don't look for
all of them to be
active. We just don't have that many hams here, and even fewer contesters;
but you Sweepstakes guys already knew that. Well, what do you expect
trying to hold radio contests during "Big Red" Season every year. What are
you thinking?!
If you live near Nebraska and have mobile HF capabilities, come on over and
have some fun running counties. We even have one ham flying in from Oregon
who's planning a mobile expedition through some fairly rare counties this
NQP.
Special Stations to look out for:
---------------------------------------------
W7DRA - Mike from Oregon will be mobile. Tentative schedule is Boone,
Madison, Stanton, Cuming and Burt counties.
KG0KR - Beth. Another local mobile op who gives out several counties each
year.
K0AIR - Strategic Air Command (SAC) Memorial Club may be operating again
from
Douglas County's EOC underground.
NI0DX - We'll let you know if anyone decides to use the club call after our
April HDXA
Dinner.
With FQP & NQP going on at the same time, work all of the Nebraska &
Florida stations that you can then sort them afterward and send in all the
logs. Just Call "CQ N-F QP" or maybe F-N QP! Just work it! See you in
the Party.
73,
de ed -K0iL
HDXA V.P.
-.-. --.- .... .- -- ... -.. . -.- ----- .. .-.. -.-
Ed Edwards -- K0iL
PO Box 375
Elkhorn, NE 68022-0375 k0il@qsl.net
Visit my web site: http://www.qsl.net/k0il
or HDXA's web site: http://www.qsl.net/hdxa
--... ...-- . ... --. .-.. - --- ..- --- -- ...-.- . .
"It's Not The End Of The Earth, But You Can See It From Here"
by Roger Welsch. Recommended NQP Reading List
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 4 21:19:37 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 04Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204050519.g355JbP05856@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 04Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 4 21:20:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 04Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204050520.g355KnB05867@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 04Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20h 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 @12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32.8 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
PA5AT 648 383 15 hr 512,454
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P 1384 599 36 2,479,860
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18.5 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14.4 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
9A4X 2475 916 35.6 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30,5 3,175,484
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM3GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From tautvydas at achema.com Fri Apr 5 10:08:53 2002
From: tautvydas@achema.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tautvydas_Misi=FBnas?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
Message-ID: <006201c1dc79$2314e510$a800a8c0@tautvydas>
Jim,why You are so late with such brilliant idea?!
I've got my plaque by mail instead ...
CU this year!
Ted,LY2OX
>From va7bm at netzero.net Wed Apr 3 20:57:01 2002
From: va7bm@netzero.net (va7bm)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <003901c1db33$85fb0480$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <001c01c1dc8d$09b46000$7807fea9@address.com>
Yes that is a pity. I have no interest in receiving eQSL's (34 years chasing
DX I don't need many cards to increase my total. I've uploaded over 10'000
under 3 different calls and hope they are of some use to somebody. Oh well,
guess they will get it all sorted oneday.
73 Bob VA7BM ex VE7OR, VE7AZV and also licensed as KB7QEQ
----- Original Message -----
From: Sylvan Katz <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: CQ-Contest <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: April 03, 2002 9:18 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> So what do other people think about eQSL.cc change of policy?
>
> The main page of the web site now says:
>
> "We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of our
> InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have confirmed."
>
> So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and who by
> law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL out
of
> courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
>
> Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I have
> faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
> apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc -- now you
> are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It seems
> that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able to
> respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not even be
> able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Fri Apr 5 07:24:41 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
Message-ID: <003b01c1dca5$3e99b5a0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
>I just pulled all of my logs from eqsl and will not answer cards through
>that service anymore. It's a shame.
Might I suggest that instead of pulling your logs that you try the
following.
1. Post a message short message to CQ-Contest indicating why you oppose the
eQSL policy
(QSLing is part of the contest process).
2. Go to eQSL.cc and reject each eQSL that was sent to you
3. When the reject QSL pop-up box appears, check "Other problem listed
below"
4. and in the box put the URL of the message you posted to CQ-Contest.
You can get the URL of your posting by going to
http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/ and finding your posting.
This approach will allow us to use eQSL.cc to help rally a broader community
to encourage the eQSL.cc advisory board to reverse it decision and change a
good thing gone bad back to a valuable tool that can be used by us all and
not just DXCC award seekers.
Just a thought
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From k7qq at netzero.net Fri Apr 5 07:42:52 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <001001c1dcab$a5f06cc0$b13dfa43@computer>
Quacks
I find that in most cases where I have one that isn't correct its is simply
a bad time or band in the Log that I uploaded or his log. When U reject
just put in the time shown in Ur log and if he wants the card he can obtain
it that way. I don't even look at the ards that come thru. I respond when
I get SASE /$ I have 5 years of cards at the buro that I may get some day.
I load logs to e-QSL right after a contest so I don't have to confirm them.
The recient chang at e-QSL makes for a bigger job but no BFD. I still am
tring to work WAS.
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: "ted demopoulos" <kr1g@hotmail.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 03:10
Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> Jim,
>
> You are not quite right, although close. If the times are off or something
> else is wrong (and you probably won't know what, just that you worked
> P5/KR1G on 160 and the logs have been submitted and you don't have
credit),
> you would de *exactly* what you do today - send P5/KR1G's QSL manager,
> KC1XX, a note saying "man I know I'm in the log can you double check
> please?" And Matt may find a problem, like your call K1IR was logged
> correctly on the cheap one-ply toilet paper KR1G used for logging because
> his laptop ran erratically on P5 power but copied into the computer log
> incorrectly.
>
> As far as being too strict, blame me!! The biggest strength and reason for
> the prestige of the DXCC program is its security - yes, you can scam it.
> Print your own DL, and G and EA6 and PYOF cards and submit them and
they'll
> probably pass. Try that with a P5 or VU7 card and it gets *much* harder.
> They do catch cheaters quite often I'm told. Any eQSL system MUST be at
> least as secure! If its too secure and a too much of a hassle (the two go
> hand in hand), it can be loosened later. We did consider possible (in some
> cases probable) attacks and some of the "features" are designed especially
> for them. Yes, I am Paranoid - its my job :)
>
> 73
> Ted KR1G
>
> >From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
> >To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> >
> >Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we
can
> >call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the
point?
> >If
> >you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We submit
> >the
> >information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review
> >their
> >logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one,
but
> >I
> >don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks
are
> >off
> >by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line
QSL -
> >no
> >QSO - and no way to track it.
> >
> >What do the DXCC Rules say?
> >
> >"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply,
> >written
> >proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be
> >submitted
> >directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . . Staff
> >may
> >accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
> >
> >and,
> >
> >"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call
> >signs of
> >both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and date,
> >time
> >and band."
> >
> >For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
> >solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new double-blind
> >confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic QSLing.
> >
> >It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure to
> >get
> >them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether
printed
> >or
> >electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
> >
> >Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL
DXCC
> >policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
> >accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
> >
> >73,
> >
> >Jim Idelson K1IR
> >email k1ir@designet.com
> >web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >CQ-Contest mailing list
> >CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
>
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From w7zr at citlink.net Fri Apr 5 07:25:31 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1> <003b01c1dca5$3e99b5a0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <00cc01c1dcaf$0455bd80$2dd443d8@N1>
> >I just pulled all of my logs from eqsl and will not answer cards through
> >that service anymore. It's a shame.
>
> Might I suggest that instead of pulling your logs that you try the
> following.
>
> 1. Post a message short message to CQ-Contest indicating why you oppose
the
> eQSL policy
> (QSLing is part of the contest process).
> 2. Go to eQSL.cc and reject each eQSL that was sent to you
I had uploaded 110,000 QSOs. I will forward on the requests for eqsl
confirmations to you. Joking. But no joke...I don't need or want the
confirmations. I was trying to do it to help others.
> 3. When the reject QSL pop-up box appears, check "Other problem listed
> below"
> 4. and in the box put the URL of the message you posted to CQ-Contest.
>
> You can get the URL of your posting by going to
> http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/ and finding your posting.
>
> This approach will allow us to use eQSL.cc to help rally a broader
community
> to encourage the eQSL.cc advisory board to reverse it decision and change
a
> good thing gone bad back to a valuable tool that can be used by us all and
> not just DXCC award seekers.
>
> Just a thought
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> "A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
>
>
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Fri Apr 5 09:54:39 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The clock is ticking down to FQP 2K2
Message-ID: <007b01c1dcb1$d50e70a0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
(please forward this message to your local ham club e-mail reflectors-TNX!)
Yes, its Friday and the WPX SSB is past us....what next you say?
You Yankees, how did those fixed South "multiplier" antennas work for
you....DON'T MOVE EM JUST YET! Because:
It's only 22 days until FQP 2K2...
Over the past several years, the Florida Contest Group has turned out tens
of thousands of QSOs from hams just like you in a state QSO Party - The
Florida QSO Party.
The FQP has just about something for everybody including a handsome
certificate program, extensive plaque program (see below), college
competition, club competition and new this year:
An SWL Category!
If you are an SWL please contact me - we would like to get this information
distributed ASAP to the e-mail reflectors that SWL's frequent!
Florida hams take pride in airing their state - our larger fixed stations
can rack up over 2000 QSOs in the FQP - this is a 20 hour contest, so that
means they average over 100/hour. How can they do this - by your
participation!
We have successfully activated all of Florida's Counties since we took over
running the FQP several years ago - in fact several stations did it last
year! How do we do that - with mobilers roving the state...if you are a
mobiler/county activator we invite you to join us...each year several out of
state hams will come down to the Sunshine State and help us activate our
counties...last year there were several such stations who became plaque
winners.
Here are the FQP 2,001 Plaque winners, congratulations go to:
Sponsor Award Winner
N4PN Top Florida CW NO4S (K9OM op)
N4DL Top Florida Phone K4XS
N4BP Top Florida QRP NA4CW
K1TO Top Florida Mobile (Single Op) W5WMU
K4OJ Top Florida Mobile (Multi-Op) K5WA (+N6MU)
AB4RL Top Florida Score K4FQP (K5KG op)
K4OJ Most QSO's Florida Single Operator K4XS
N4PK Top Florida Club Station Score W4MLB
QCWA Chapter 62 Top Novice/Technician No Entries
KD4RWN Top University Non-Florida W6YX
Friendship ARC Top University Florida K4UCF
W4JN Top Non-Florida CW K3TW
K4XS Top Non-Florida Phone N?WY
NF4A Top Non-Florida Mixed Mode W8MJ
NA4CW Top Non-Florida QRP K3TW
N4TO Top European CW M?SDX
WD4AHZ Top Canadian Mixed Mode VE1OP
NF4A Top DX Mixed Mode LY3BA
K5KG 1st station to work all Counties in FQP K3WW
Have you tried the FQP?
It is a fun contest with a simple exchange - Floridians send a signal report
and a county (full county abbreviation list on the FQP web page/URL
below)...Out of Florida stations send a signal report and their
state/province or country - again consult the URL below....
Floridians if you can participate please check in to the web page ASAP and
click on the link for county activation/NS4W, our county coordinator....let
him know what county or counties you can activate.. Once we have a
commitment for a county the Florida map on the opening page of the website
will change color from Green to Orange for that county...over the next few
weeks you will see the map become more and more orange and with the help of
other Floridians we will make it all Orange once again! Please check in
ASAP so the mobile teams can plan their routes to ensure all FL counties
will be well represented!
There are Florida county as well as out of state records posted on the FQP
website - check them out - as well as all the other valuable info on the
FQP. The FQP website is a true asset - it even contains links to logging
software that supports the FQP!
Spend a few minutes surfing the website, bookmark it and don't forget:
Its only 22 days until the 2,002 - be there!
Check out the website:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp/index.html
73/GL
Jim, K4OJ
K4FCG
The Florida Contest Group...thanks to you were running 'em!
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Apr 5 11:14:04 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <00cc01c1dcaf$0455bd80$2dd443d8@N1>
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
<003b01c1dca5$3e99b5a0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020405111207.05278560@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 07:25 AM 4/5/02 -0700, Richard Zalewski wrote:
>...
>I had uploaded 110,000 QSOs. I will forward on the requests for eqsl
>confirmations to you. Joking. But no joke...I don't need or want the
>confirmations. I was trying to do it to help others.
I don't get it -- if the eQSLs aren't accepted for DXCC, it's hard to
understand why it's helpful to upload your logs there. I'm waiting for
LotW to become operational, because at least we know that those credits
will be accepted. I hope that this project is not turning into another FAA
air traffic control computer upgrade!
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Fri Apr 5 08:16:32 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (bob.wruble@verizon.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1> <003b01c1dca5$3e99b5a0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <002f01c1dcbd$40bc3390$3ec13d04@bobhome>
i am/was on their stupid advisory board and was never
consulted or asked about their abrupt policy change!
they had a good thing going but this latest move will likely
remove me as a customer. i wrote them a private email a few
days ago re this move but no response so far!
de w7gg/ai7b/ww7or
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sylvan Katz" <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>; "Ron Notarius WN3VAW"
<wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> >I just pulled all of my logs from eqsl and will not answer cards through
> >that service anymore. It's a shame.
>
> Might I suggest that instead of pulling your logs that you try the
> following.
>
> 1. Post a message short message to CQ-Contest indicating why you oppose
the
> eQSL policy
> (QSLing is part of the contest process).
> 2. Go to eQSL.cc and reject each eQSL that was sent to you
> 3. When the reject QSL pop-up box appears, check "Other problem listed
> below"
> 4. and in the box put the URL of the message you posted to CQ-Contest.
>
> You can get the URL of your posting by going to
> http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/ and finding your posting.
>
> This approach will allow us to use eQSL.cc to help rally a broader
community
> to encourage the eQSL.cc advisory board to reverse it decision and change
a
> good thing gone bad back to a valuable tool that can be used by us all and
> not just DXCC award seekers.
>
> Just a thought
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> "A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
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>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Fri Apr 5 08:25:27 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (bob.wruble@verizon.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <001001c1dcab$a5f06cc0$b13dfa43@computer>
Message-ID: <003801c1dcbe$7f29d730$3ec13d04@bobhome>
forcing u to upload all of ur logs is a stupid move in my opinion
becuz that sends a endless stream of eqsls to stations that
have no interest in getting them .... like me!
why do i need 20 qsls from k7qq each contest season??
or from other domestic contest stns??
i have not uploaded any of my annual 30k plus contest
qsos to eqsl for this very reason ....... i saw eqsl as a great tool to
respond to the constant drone of incoming qsl requests
that follow/plague contesters ........
i want to support the paper chasers in the hobby in exchage for their wking
me in the contests ......... but now it looks like this
can't be done without uploading the logs?
lifes a bitch and then u die!
de w7gg/ai7b/ww7or
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
To: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:42 PM
Subject: Fw: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> Quacks
> I find that in most cases where I have one that isn't correct its is
simply
> a bad time or band in the Log that I uploaded or his log. When U reject
> just put in the time shown in Ur log and if he wants the card he can
obtain
> it that way. I don't even look at the ards that come thru. I respond
when
> I get SASE /$ I have 5 years of cards at the buro that I may get some
day.
> I load logs to e-QSL right after a contest so I don't have to confirm
them.
> The recient chang at e-QSL makes for a bigger job but no BFD. I still am
> tring to work WAS.
>
> Quack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ted demopoulos" <kr1g@hotmail.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 03:10
> Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> > Jim,
> >
> > You are not quite right, although close. If the times are off or
something
> > else is wrong (and you probably won't know what, just that you worked
> > P5/KR1G on 160 and the logs have been submitted and you don't have
> credit),
> > you would de *exactly* what you do today - send P5/KR1G's QSL manager,
> > KC1XX, a note saying "man I know I'm in the log can you double check
> > please?" And Matt may find a problem, like your call K1IR was logged
> > correctly on the cheap one-ply toilet paper KR1G used for logging
because
> > his laptop ran erratically on P5 power but copied into the computer log
> > incorrectly.
> >
> > As far as being too strict, blame me!! The biggest strength and reason
for
> > the prestige of the DXCC program is its security - yes, you can scam it.
> > Print your own DL, and G and EA6 and PYOF cards and submit them and
> they'll
> > probably pass. Try that with a P5 or VU7 card and it gets *much* harder.
> > They do catch cheaters quite often I'm told. Any eQSL system MUST be at
> > least as secure! If its too secure and a too much of a hassle (the two
go
> > hand in hand), it can be loosened later. We did consider possible (in
some
> > cases probable) attacks and some of the "features" are designed
especially
> > for them. Yes, I am Paranoid - its my job :)
> >
> > 73
> > Ted KR1G
> >
> > >From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
> > >To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> > >
> > >Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we
> can
> > >call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the
> point?
> > >If
> > >you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We
submit
> > >the
> > >information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review
> > >their
> > >logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one,
> but
> > >I
> > >don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks
> are
> > >off
> > >by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line
> QSL -
> > >no
> > >QSO - and no way to track it.
> > >
> > >What do the DXCC Rules say?
> > >
> > >"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply,
> > >written
> > >proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be
> > >submitted
> > >directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . .
Staff
> > >may
> > >accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
> > >
> > >and,
> > >
> > >"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call
> > >signs of
> > >both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and
date,
> > >time
> > >and band."
> > >
> > >For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
> > >solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new
double-blind
> > >confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic
QSLing.
> > >
> > >It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure
to
> > >get
> > >them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether
> printed
> > >or
> > >electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
> > >
> > >Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL
> DXCC
> > >policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
> > >accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
> > >
> > >73,
> > >
> > >Jim Idelson K1IR
> > >email k1ir@designet.com
> > >web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >CQ-Contest mailing list
> > >CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > >http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
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>From yt3t at absolutok.net Fri Apr 5 20:17:28 2002
From: yt3t@absolutok.net (Kele YT3T)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL problem option - ALL INCLUSIVE
References: <200204050401.g35413Al001366@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000001c1dcd0$e5ab4680$9de45d50@pentium>
For those who do not have time to go through all the troubles of having
their cards received at other end:
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73
Kele
YU1AO, YT3T, N2KAB
email to yt3t@absolutok.net
(QSLing is excellent marketing strategy for your next contest score)
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Fri Apr 5 15:07:33 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] qsl's
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEJDDEAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
An interesting forum, to discuss ARRL's impact on
eQSL policy.
This is a real conundrum; my reason for using
eQSL was simplicity of providing courtesy responses
to folks I'd worked.
While I DO log dx, and have 300+ worked, I have zero
confirmed. Well...ok, I threw out 250 or so, from my
old address, and have worked over 300 since moving to
VT....and yes, over a hundred HAVE sent paper cards since
then....but WHO CARES?
It's not about pieces of paper, it's about people.
I like swapping .jpg's with folks I work, and knowing
a bit more about them, WHILE I work them (thank you,
qrz.com).
Am I simply off in a corner, here? The ARRL program is
meaningless to me. eQSL's utility has been reduced
substantially since the change.
Fie on the bloody lot of them. What shall we do next?
Jim Jarvis
N2EA
>From k1mk at arrl.net Fri Apr 5 12:22:49 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID:
<20020405122256.5465.c002-h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Jim,
Jim Idelson wrote:
> However, if there is a desire to increase the rigor in QSL
requirements for
> DXCC and other awards, such a decision and discussion should be taken
up by the
> DXCC team with significant input from those involved in the DXCC
program. It
> should not be implemented via an end-run by the QSL technologists.
That rigor would appear to already be there, at least in public
statements if not enforcement.
The DXCC Program has characterized preemptive QSLing even with paper
cards as a "poor QSLing practice" that should be discouraged; at least
when it's practiced by rare DX stations.
Now, it doesn't seem to be of much concern that individual contesters
from "common" entities preemptively send out multiple thousands of
unsolicited cards via the bureau annually. A very low percentage of
those cards are likely to ever make their way back in an appliction to
the DXCC Desk (or field checking).
Also, with paper cards the fact that the first of two cards exchanged is
an unsolicited confirmation doesn't seem to matter. The initial card in
an exchange of QSLs is typically not the one with which the DXCC Desk is
concerned, particularly at the higher achievement levels.
Likewise, responding to incoming cards without consulting a log is
another example of what was described as "poor QSLing practice". It
might be seen as a courtesy or convienience when practiced between
stations in non-rare entities, but if it became known that a station
from a "rare" entity sent out cards without checking a log or didn't
keep a log, DXCC credit for contacts with that station might well be
denied.
Yes, those would seem to be very much of a double-standard; which are
not internally self-consistent. If DXCC has a more rigorous set of
self-imposed standards (or suggested practices) for how QSLs from "rare
DX" should be generated which differ from the typical practices employed
by us "commoners", then it should not be that much of a surprise that a
single, uniform protocol enforced by LoTW would be based upon the
higher, more rigorous standards and suggested practices of the DXCC
Program rather that emulating the practices in common use.
Remember LoTW is firstly a front-end for DXCC and other ARRL awards
programs. It satifies the requirements needed to perform those functions
very well. But it is not necessarily the best or most general model for
how to define and implement an open standard for portable, forge-proof
electronic confirmations.
> The current approach might be great for the dedicated, web-savvy,
hard-core
> DXers among us; but it is not going to be particularly attractive to
the
> newcomers and casual operators that dominate our ranks. The
requirement to
> upload electronic logs in order to receive QSLs will filter out
thousands of
> potential users.
The current approach would not prevent a casual user from sending QSO
information for a single contact, just like sending an individual card.
Could easily do that from a web form: type in your QSO data, click send.
Anyone can create their own version of what they think this UI should
look like because the upload is by means of e-mail or http. And the
upload could even go via a third-party since it does not have to take
place over a validated or otherwise secured connection.
Unless there is a change in philosophy what is unlikely to happen is to
be told "You've Got QSL" and be provided with the full QSO details.
> Want to ensure that confirmations of rare DX QSOs are harder to forge?
Put
> special requirements on certain DXpedition logs, extremely rare
countries, etc.
How about only requiring the user submit double-blind matching QSLs for
new band/mode countries? Might work if LoTW were only intended to be
used for DXCC. It's not.
Plans are to expand LoTW to include the other ARRL awards programs, so
you'd need to also exclude viewing of unsolicited, unmatched QSLs from
new states, grids, etc. Over the longer term there is a consideration of
marketing LoTW data or awards checking services to outside customers.
Can't compromise the integerity and potential marketability of the
database, so the genie can never be let of the bottle.
This whole issue of double-blind originates with the scenario that by
going to electronic confirmations will make the QSLing process so easy
and inexpenisve that preemptive QSLing will become the norm. Why go
through the trouble of checking each card, just upload the logs? It
helps out the other guy, right?
As a result, the thinking goes, many of the "undeserving" will start
receiving unsolicited confirmations for contacts they didn't make
because of the inevitable busted call signs. Remember those? This is
CQ-Contest after all. Some of the weaker individuals out there might be
tempted to submit those unearned confirmations for award credit.
It can happen just as easily with a bureau card despite preemptive
QSLing having been labeled a "poor" practice. It doesn't happen very
often only because most of the rarer DX don't send out a card for every
contact via the bureau; yes, some do.
As I recall, one goal of LoTW was to come up with a process for
electronic conformations that was "more secure" than paper QSLs. Going
double-blind closes off giving out credit for a busted call. Just like
contest log checking.
It's yet another attempting to have a machine enforce ethical behavior.
It's a people problem. Other than personal integrity, there is nothing
to stop two individuals from consipiring to falsify a contact, under the
present system or any future system. But the machine can stop an
individual from fraudulently taking advantage of some else's error. Is
it worth it the inconvience?
Anyone got a different solution?
> But, please don't introduce log transcription or upload requirements
just so we
> can see the QSL for a 20M DL QSO.
Well, I guess we're not supposed to look at the unsolicited DL cards
that arrive via the bureau, either. :-(
73,
Mike K1MK
k1mk@alum.mit.edu
Michael Keane K1MK
k1mk@arrl.net
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Fri Apr 5 20:27:52 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New Contesting Radio?
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar> <00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
Message-ID: <001c01c1dcd7$fe2fa820$0215be3f@bigguy>
>From http://www.tentec.com/TT565.htm
"Instant Two Radio Mode" allows ORION to instantly QSY between two different
bands. Two linear amplifiers, two sets of accessory devices via dual band data
outputs and two antennas can optionally be connected to ORION to allow
instantaneous QSY.
Unfortunately is still "looks like a TenTec"
73, de Hans, K0HB
>From jtolbert at gremlan.org Fri Apr 5 19:18:18 2002
From: jtolbert@gremlan.org (Jamie WW3S)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2 problems I see with eQSL
Message-ID: <011501c1dd00$8e341140$0500000a@bedroom>
I have not been very active with eQSL but had over 600 qsls in my in-box so
I just uploaded my log (about 38,000 qsos in ADIF) to eQSL and surprisingly
only a small amount "matched" what was in my inbox. This means they must be
entered manually to confirm. Two problems I saw was a slight mis-match in
time. EX: I logged at 1923 but other station logged at 1924, this gets
bounced. Bigger problem was they have the contest exchange in the exchanged
field and apparently my programs wont export that so the card in my in-box
displays 599 513 where mine just has 599; again this gets bounced. I'd love
to be able to confirm these 500+ qsos without manually searching the log and
then adding it to my eQSL log but I just don't have the time. You would
think there would be a +/- parameter that could be set so if within "X"
minutes do an auto-confirm.....
73
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Apr 5 19:04:18 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL DX SSB - DX Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020405190201.00aabc00@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 ARRL DX SSB - DX Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: April 2, 2002
E-mail logs to: DXPhone@arrl.org
Mail logs to:
DX Phone Contest
ARRL
225 Main St.
Newington, CT 06111
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX M/2 HP
9A7A 6360 289 5,514,120 CROATIAN CONTEST CLU
HG6N 6028 267 4,828,428
DL6RAI 5459 270 48 4,421,790 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
OA4O 5400 261 4,228,200 RADIO CLUB PERUANO
LY7Z 5119 266 4,000,000 LITHUANIAN DX GROUP
YT9X @YU1AAX 4910 253 3,726,690 YU CONTEST CLUB
EA5DFV 4598 244 44 3,365,736
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX M/M LP
V26S 5036 299 34 4,517,292 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX M/M HP
9A1A 8438 306 48 7,746,084 CROATIAN CONTEST CLU
EA8ZS 5623 303 48 5,111,307 GALDAR CONTEST TEAM
LT1F 4536 241 48 3,270,129 THE BAD POWER
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX M/S LP
KH6/W2EDD @KH6 2470 242 1,793,220
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX M/S HP
VP5B 7746 338 48 7,854,444 TOP OF EUROPE CONTES
FY5KE 7665 328 7,542,360
PJ4G 6122 322 48 5,913,852 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
TM5C 6265 284 5,337,780
6D2YFM 5734 318 48 5,329,004
CT9M 4865 282 48 4,115,790 RHEIN RUHR DX ASSOCI
OM0M 4657 259 3,618,489
OM7M 4301 278 48 3,587,034 LBCC
OE2S 4290 269 40 3,462,030 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
IQ4T 3740 251 48 2,816,220 ROMAGNA CONTEST CLUB
PW0T 4156 225 48 2,805,300 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
SN8V @SP8YMM 3548 240 43 2,554,560
LU1NF 3140 214 45 2,015,880
PI4TUE 2696 223 1,803,624
LA2Z 2675 223 1,789,575
IO4T 2432 241 1,758,336
VK4UC 2369 221 40 1,569,984 WWDXC
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DX SOAB QRP
TI5N (W8QZA) 1590 200 40 954,000
F5NOD 519 134 15 208,638
LR7E (LU3DR) 209 88 38 55,176
S54AA 167 84 42,084 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
SM6DER 187 61 9 34,221 HISINGENS RADIOKLUBB
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DX SOAB LP
XE2AUB 1700 161 30 821,100
SV1DPI 1467 176 774,576
KL7AC 1449 172 20 747,684
EA6DD 1240 193 717,960
FS/KT8X 1228 162 13 596,808
V51/SP6IXF 845 111 8 281,385 SPDXCLUB
RG9O (RZ9OU) 649 133 258,552
F8AAN 601 124 16 222,084
RD4M (UA4LU) 369 99 109,593
SP1EK 267 89 71,289 SPCC
VA3PC 660 107 70,620
JE1TSD 153 438 32,412
SP8GNF 118 66 23,364
MW5EPA 165 76 5 12,540 CONTEST CAMBRIA
T97M 77 34 7,854 SARAJEVO CONTEST GRO
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DX SOAB HP
8P5A (W2SC) 8211 336 48 8,280,000 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
TI5/VE7CC (VE7 5639 328 40 5,548,776
WP2Z (N2TK) 5190 299 35 4,655,430 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
SN2B (SP2FAX) 5033 266 4,016,334
M6T (G4PIQ) 4515 283 3,830,688 MARTLESHAM DX & CG
NH7A 4541 280 3,814,440
GM4YXI 3915 282 34 3,312,090 NORTH OF SCOTLAND CO
G4BUO 4418 246 33 3,260,484 CHILTERN DX CLUB
HI3/K1CX (KC1X 3515 306 18 3,226,770 ECC
GM7V (GM3WOJ) 3148 249 37 2,351,556 NORTH OF SCOTLAND CG
OE1EMS 3008 228 30 2,057,472
7S2E (SM2DMU) 2660 228 40 1,819,440 TOP OF EUROPE CONTES
RA3AJ 2627 212 1,670,772
RK4FF 1776 194 1,033,050
ZL1ANJ 1036 171 30 531,468
IK4AUY 963 161 11 465,129 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
VK2CZ 1021 125 20 382,875
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DX SOAB(A) LP
7L4IOU 867 162 418,446
9A7P (9A6XX) 627 106 199,386 WORLDWIDE YOUNG CONT
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DX SOAB(A) HP
DK8ZB 2793 282 37 2,362,878 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
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DX SOSB/10 QRP
SP5XMU 220 46 32 30,360
T91ENS 10 8 240 SARAJEVO CONTEST GRO
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DX SOSB/10 LP
PY2XAT 1799 60 323,820 TUPY DX GROUP
G0AEV 1438 59 254,526
PY2YU 1425 59 252,225
EA7GTF 1393 59 246,561
P40B (P43P) 1313 58 8 228,288 ARUBA AMATEUR RADIO
SP3KEY (SP3DWQ 1115 59 16 197,335
KH6GMP 1078 56 48 181,104 HAWAII DX ASSOCIATIO
S58M 822 59 144,000 SCC
XE1BEF 727 57 124,317
IQ2C (IK2JUB) 623 59 11 110,271 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
S57LWG @S57IIO 607 55 100,000
M0GTO 226 45 8 30,375
YU1ACS (4N1EA) 178 42 20 22,428 YU CONTEST CLUB
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DX SOSB/10 HP
ZX5J 3311 61 605,913 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
PJ2K (K6RO) 3179 60 28 572,220 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
ZF2AH (W6VNR) 2914 59 29 515,778
NP3X (KP4WW) 2689 60 484,020 COAMO CONTEST CLUB
9A5Y (9A3LG) 2406 59 425,862
DL1IAO @DL0WW 2432 58 18 423,168 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
DF9ZP 2383 59 421,791 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
S50C (S55OO) 2295 59 406,215 CCS CONTEST CLUB SLO
S50K 2207 60 18 397,260 SCC
YT0A (YT3T) 2244 59 17 397,011
DF3KV 2132 60 19 383,760 RHEIN RUHR DX ASSOCI
IK4MHB 2002 60 360,360 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
S51TA 1814 59 321,078 CCS-CONTEST CLUB SLO
EA3QP 1706 61 15 312,198
UU7J (UT5UT) 1372 59 241,428 CRIMEAN CONTEST CLUB
RZ3AA 1163 60 12 209,340
OM5AW 2850 58 165,300
UA9YAB 566 54 13 91,692
RU9WX 360 49 52,920 BASHKIRIAN DX CLUB
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DX SOSB/15 LP
TI7/N4MO (N4MO 1700 59 25 300,900 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
V31MF 1512 60 272,160
PY2NDX 1520 59 269,040
ZV2V (PY2LED) 1252 60 225,360 TUPY DX GROUP
S57IIO 1161 59 205,497
LZ9W (LZ2HM) 1006 59 178,062 LZDXF
SP4DEU 718 58 124,932
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DX SOSB/15 HP
OH6NIO 1741 145 757,335
P40A (KK9A) 3550 59 628,350 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
OK1RI 2481 61 454,023
KL7RA 2661 58 22 447,354
9A1P 2282 59 24 403,914 WORLDWIDE YOUNG CONT
4O6A (Z32AF) 2194 59 388,338 SKY CONTEST CLUB
OH6AC (OH6CS) 2005 61 366,915 CONTEST CLUB OF FINL
OE8SKQ 2002 6012 354,708
ES5RW 1915 59 20 338,955 TARTU CONTEST TEAM
S53MM @S51TA 1779 59 314,883 CCS-CONTEST CLUB SLO
EA3IN 1583 59 280,191
S52ZW 1579 279,483 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
LY6A (LY2BM) 1504 59 266,031
OK1CF 1224 59 216,648
J37K (AC8G) 1170 59 8 207,090
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DX SOSB/160 HP
HA5JI 65 17 3,315
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DX SOSB/20 LP
SM0W (SM0WKA) 1542 59 272,934 CONTEST CLUB OF FINL
IK8UND 607 54 98,334
ZC4DW 63 27 3 5,103 CHILTERN DX CLUB
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DX SOSB/20 HP
PY3FOX 193 836 19,383,600 ARACAURIA DX GROUP
OH4A (OH6LI) 2550 62 40 470,000 CONTEST CLUB OF FINL
OH8L (OH8LQ) 2359 62 423,894 CONTEST CLUB OF FINL
S51CK 1266 60 227,880 SCC
PY3FOX 1114 58 193,836 ARACAURIA DX GROUP
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DX SOSB/40 HP
GW7X (GW4BLE) 1156 58 25 201,144 CONTEST CAMBRIA
BA4RF 58 27 4,698
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DX SOSB/80 LP
S57MSU 28 12 1,008
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DX SOSB/80 HP
YV5OHW 703 57 24 120,213
OT2T (ON4UN) 490 42 61,740
S59CAB (S53CC) 409 42 51,534
UZ7U (UT3UA) 202 29 17,574
YT6A 418 37 SKY CONTEST CLUB
Teams:
9A7A 9A8A, 9A7V, 9A6DM, 9A4RX, 9A4PA, 9A4BT, 9A3TR,
9A3OS, 9A2ME
HG6N HA3OV HA6DX HA6ND HA6NF HA6NQ HA6NY HA6PX
DL6RAI DL1MGB, DL2NBU, DL4RDJ, DL6RAI AND DJ5CL
OA4O OA4EI, OA4AHW, OA4BHY, OA4CRK, OA4DII, OA4DIX,
OA4DJW, OA4DKC, OA4DMR (OH0XX), DL1NL
LY7Z LY1DS, LY2TA, LY3MM
YT9X @YU1AAX YT1RU, YT1RA, YZ1KA, YU1JW, YU1ZZ, MARKO
EA5DFV EA5ON EA5CLH EC5CPL EA5DFV
V26S N2WKS KD3TB W3CF
9A1A N4PN, NF4A, 9A5W, 9A3GW, 9A6A, 9A6D, 9A7R,
9A5K, 9A8W, 9A9A
EA8ZS EA8ZS AND GALDAR CONTEST TEAM
LT1F LU1FAM, LU1FGE, LU1FT, LU1FD, LU1FKR, LU3FP,
LU3FZW, LU5FHM, LU6FQD, LU8FOX, LU2FV
KH6/W2EDD @KH AD4J, K3ZM, W4GKA
VP5B K4ISV, K4CN
FY5KE F1HAR F5MZN F6FVY FY5FU FY5FY F5HRY
PJ4G K2NG, K2TW, NO2R
TM5C F6CTT - F5MUX - F5NLY - F5VCO - F4SGU
CT9M CT3BD, CT3DL, CT3EE, CT3EN, CT3HK, CT3IA,
CT3IQ, CT3KU
OM0M OM3BH, OM3CHL, OM8DX, OM8AW
OM7M OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OE2S OE2GEN, OE2LCM, OE2MON, OE2VEL
IQ4T I4IFL I4MNY IK4HVR IK4MGP IK4MGX IK4SXJ IK4WMH
PW0T PY7ZZ, PY7XC, PY5CC, PY5HSD, PT7BZ, PY1RO,
PY0FF, N6FF, PY7ZY
SN8V @SP8YMM SP8GQU, SP8ARY, SP8GWI, SP8LBK, SP8NCF, SQ8BGJ
LU1NF LU1NDC, LU2NI & LU8NA
PI4TUE PA3EZL PE1PRG
LA2Z LA3BO, LA6MV
IO4T IK4RQJ, IK4VET, IK4XCL, IK4ZHH, IK4ALM, IZ4DIJ
VK4UC VK4UC;NO7T
V31MF V31MF/KC5ZT
K4JA K4JA, K4MA, K9JY, KE9I, W3BP, KG9X
KI1G KI1G, K1NG, WF1B,KS1J,K1JN,K1SD,KB1LN
KR1G WA1S NR1DX W1AAX WC1M KR1G
N4TO K1TO, N4DL, N4TO, T93M, T93Y
K1IR AA1AA, K1EP, K1IR, KM2P, W1VE
KB1H KB1H, NB1U, N1XS, K1EBY, AA1CE, KB1DFB, W1TJL,
W3TB, KE1LI
W5KFT W5KFT, W6PH, K5TSQ, K5PI, W5TA, W5JEN, W5TD
VE6SV VE5FN VA6EA VE6AKY VE6EZ VE6NAP VE6RFM VE6SV
K2RD WA1FCN W1CU K2WR K2RD
NK7U NK7U, K7ZO, W7ZRC, WA7LT, KK7A, K7MK
N5TW WM5R NA4M KM5TY N5DUW WS4G W5TD N5TW
VE1JF VE1JF, VE1AI, VE1AMJ, VE1DHD, VE1HC, VE1MOO
AA5NT N3BUO, KK7JS, WD5FLK, N1CC, N5NJ, AA5NT,
KC5LOS, KC5SDY, W5GDC
KK1L KK1L, K1KD, W1SJ, W1DEC, AA1SU, K1WEY, N1ZUK,
K1HD, KC1WH
VE7SCC VE7HHS VA7DX
N3BB W5JEN, W5RQA, W5TA, WR5Q, KD5QJV, N3BB
KC1XX K1GQ W1FV AD1C HC1OT K6AW W1MD W2RQ K1XX
K9NS AA9D,K9DX,K9HMB,K9NO,K9PPY,K9PW,K9QVB,K9RO,
K9RS,KO9A,KS9W,W9RM,WE9V.
W2FU W2FU, K2UA, N2MG, K2AXX, K2DB, K2TER, K1PY
W1FJ @W1KM NB1B, W1KM, N1TB, N1NK, W1NA, W1FJ
N2RM N2RM N2NC WM2H
W3PP W3PP N6ZO K3FT N3KW W2GJ KB3FEE W3PAR N3PT KW3Z
K3ANS K3ANS, N3PUR, N3MX, KB3CBO, K3YD, W3ZL, KC3WX,
W0RSJ
K3NM K3IPK,K3ZV,LU9AY,K3NM
N6RO K3EST, K6RC, K6TA, K6KO, KI7WX, W6SR, N6BV,
N6SNO, N6RO
W4MYA N4DEN, N4EHJ, K4KJL,K4KML,K4WMA,KF4QQY,W4HZ,
W4MYA,WK4Y
W8ZA K3DNE, K8OQL, ND3A, N8II, W8ZA
W2CG W2CG, W2EN, W2NO, K2WJ
K3OO @K3OOO K3OO & K3OOO
K3CT @K3II K3CT, K3II
NY4T NY4T N4LKE W1ADE KR4FO KG4RDF KG4MHK
K8AZ K8AZ, K8BL, K8NZ, ND8L, W8KIC, WB8K, WT8C
W0GU @N2IC N2IC,NA5S,K0KR
W4MR @AA4NC AA4NC, N4YDU, K4HA
K8CC K8CC, K8GL, KE8OC
K5NZ W5BA , K5GA , K5NZ
K0DU K0CL, N0ZA, KC0DKX,K0UK
K2XR K2XR+K2OWR+WB2WIK
NE3F KS3F K3ATO NT3V NG3Z KB3GWY
K5NA K5NA, K5DU, KI5DR, N5ZC, K2UR, NT5C
N5YA N5YA, WX0B, N5KR, K5MR, K5WO, KR5F
K2KQ K2KQ, W2WB
N1MM N1MM, N1IXF
VA3RU VE3NZ VA3RU
KR0B KR0B,NOBKL,KS0T,N0RA,KJ0B,K0KP,KB0KQA
W0ZT W0ZT, K0SR, K0XN
K0TV KB1PZ W1ES NF1A K0TV
N1LN W5MF, K7LEX, W5MJS, N1LN
VE3HG VE3HG, VE3RZ, VA3GGF, VA3EC
W6EEN W6EEN, K6XC, W6AQ, W6ORD
K0FJ K0FJ K0BJ KC0JAO
W3LJ W3IDT K3NCO KA3UBJ W3LJ
K9ES K9ES, AD4ES
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Apr 5 19:04:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL DX SSB - NA Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020405190153.00aa85e0@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 ARRL DX SSB - NA Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: April 2, 2002
E-mail logs to: DXPhone@arrl.org
Mail logs to:
DX Phone Contest
ARRL
225 Main St.
Newington, CT 06111
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
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NA M/2 HP
K4JA 5767 610 48 10,551,780 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
KI1G 5378 576 48 9,291,456 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
KR1G 4964 519 48 7,702,479 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N4TO 4595 537 48 7,397,712 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
K1IR 4393 522 44 6,868,476 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
KB1H 3789 530 6,000,660 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W5KFT 3992 478 48 5,721,660 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
VE6SV 4089 445 5,429,445
K2RD 3580 498 46 5,288,760 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NK7U 3795 434 48 4,916,352
N5TW 3347 441 48 4,343,409 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
VE1JF 3270 435 38 4,267,350
AA5NT 3201 445 4,199,910 NORTH TEXAS CONTEST
KK1L 2487 425 40 3,165,825 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
VE7SCC 1569 334 36 1,572,138 COQUITLAM AMATEUR RA
N3BB 933 291 27 814,509 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
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NA M/M HP
W3LPL 8728 688 17,967,120
KC1XX 8535 672 17,037,216
K9NS 8189 636 48 15,609,348 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
W2FU 6364 595 48 11,359,740 ROCHESTER (NY) DX AS
W1FJ @W1KM 5595 590 9,892,530 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N2RM 5260 565 48 8,902,140 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W3PP 5161 550 48 8,515,650 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3ANS 4562 560 48 7,627,200 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3NM 4742 532 45 7,563,444 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N6RO 4803 497 48 7,150,836 RIVER CITY CONTESTER
W4MYA 4211 568 45 7,069,096 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W8ZA 3441 497 48 5,130,531 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W2CG 2489 464 3,477,216 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3OO @K3OOO 1892 434 24 2,463,385 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3CT @K3II 1642 339 25 1,669,914 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
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NA M/S LP
NY4T 982 284 44 835,812 TENNESSEE CONTEST GR
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NA M/S HP
K8AZ 3137 516 48 4,800,000 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
W0GU @N2IC 3339 458 48 4,586,412 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
W4MR @AA4NC 3250 466 4,543,500 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
K8CC 3018 476 48 4,309,704 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
K5NZ 2871 480 48 4,132,800
K0DU 3289 393 47 3,873,015 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
K2XR 2752 468 48 3,859,596 SCORE!
NE3F 2581 470 3,633,570
K5NA 2585 450 3,439,800 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
N5YA 2579 438 48 3,387,492 NORTH TEXAS CONTEST
K2KQ 2477 446 48 3,314,226 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N1MM 2453 445 48 3,257,400 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
VA3RU 2781 392 3,255,168
KR0B 2512 416 48 3,133,728 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
W0ZT 2249 411 44 2,773,017 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
K0TV 2139 410 2,627,280 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N1LN 1963 405 48 2,385,045 TEXAS DX SOCIETY
W2YC @AA2WN 1684 449 48 2,268,348 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
VE3HG 1731 408 46 2,113,848
W6EEN 1488 328 48 1,462,224 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
K0FJ 1342 330 37 1,326,600
W3LJ 965 297 38 859,815
K9ES 286 79 25 67,308 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
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NA SOAB QRP
N4KG 922 283 32 782,778
K7MM 735 219 482,895
N3GXY 360 156 25 168,480
KI0II 276 135 111,780 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
K8ZT 207 123 76,014
NQ7X 208 102 12 63,648 AZ SCQRPIONS
W9HL 132 86 34,056 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
WB6BWZ 129 80 7 30,960 SOUTH EAST CONTEST C
N7IR 91 51 3 13,923 CENTRAL ARIZONA DX A
WD4OAY 60 44 19 7,920
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NA SOAB LP
VA3UZ 1767 343 34 1,807,953 U-VE CONTEST CLUB
AC0W 1620 335 43 1,628,100 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N1SV 1454 345 1,508,890 YCCC
K8EP 1508 320 42 1,447,680
N5AW 1419 339 41 1,443,123 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
N4TZ/9 (N4TZ) 1355 344 1,398,360 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K1VR 1280 345 36 1,324,800 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
K1VUT 1297 305 37 1,186,755 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
VE5SF 1076 260 26 826,800
N0FP 857 243 28 624,753 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N6WIN @W6KK 819 243 29 597,051
W3LL 691 267 28 553,491 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W7YAQ 822 224 19 552,384 WVDXC
K0XH 808 227 40 550,248 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N1LW 733 244 536,556 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
K9JLS @AI9U 741 237 30 526,851 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K1HT 690 245 14 507,150 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N2GA 723 229 15 496,701 ORDER OF BOILED OWLS
VE4YU 709 213 452,412
W2ENY 596 251 448,788 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
W3SE 617 237 438,687 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
VE7FO 736 200 31 427,800
WS7V 671 204 410,652
NX9T 605 211 10 382,965 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
WN3VAW 545 233 24 380,955 WIRELESS ASSOCIATION
K8IA 578 219 20 379,746
VE3AGC 583 215 30 376,035 GOLDEN HORSESHOE DX
VA3TTT 570 204 342,720
NS4W @K4UCF 542 198 321,948 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
N9XX 563 188 317,532 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K1VSJ 518 191 10 296,814 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N6EM 587 168 295,344 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
K3OX 428 219 11 281,196
K8KHZ 495 180 265,680 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
W1DAD 427 207 265,167 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
AA1UT 443 190 29 252,510
WA7YAZ 499 157 235,029
W0RK 428 177 20 227,268
AA6PW 404 163 14 197,556 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
KW7N 399 162 193,914
AB2E 344 175 180,600
KE4KMG 334 134 133,464 TCG
W8DRZ 321 132 27 127,116 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
W4/VE3BUC (VE3 268 131 9 105,324 SNOWBIRD MOBILE
W1AMF 280 122 8 102,480
NS3T 214 158 15 101,436
AB0MV 239 122 87,474 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
K8GT 226 125 84,750 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
K1VU 169 97 49,179 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N7XY 136 109 7 44,472 WWDXC
WA4PXP @W4MQ 97 97 10 28,227
VO1MX 118 75 2 26,325
W7UQ (KL9A) 217 39 4 25,389 WORLDWIDE YOUNG CONT
K2CC (KC2BMG) 120 70 24,780
W6ZZZ 45 35 4,725 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
WA2PQE 25 20 7 1,500
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NA SOAB HP
KQ2M 4403 503 45 6,642,618 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K5ZD (KM3T) 3887 464 42 5,405,136
VE3EJ 3656 487 44 5,265,444 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K4ZW 3868 451 47 5,233,404 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W9RE 3907 453 5,187,000 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
N2NT 3493 466 48 4,880,418 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
VY2SS (K6LA) 3505 401 48 4,216,515 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
AA1K 3211 415 48 3,997,695 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
WB9Z 3045 434 45 3,964,590 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K3ZO 3164 413 40 3,920,196 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
K5TR 3010 410 46 3,702,300 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
N9RV 3141 381 32 3,584,448 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K1KI (KM1P) 2823 324 35 2,879,982 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W7GG 2619 361 41 2,788,725 WVDXC
K4AB 2411 380 2,748,540 SOUTH EAST CONTEST C
K9ZO (KB9UWU) 2051 351 40 2,159,703 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
W6UE (W4EF) 2126 341 42 2,139,093 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
W4WTB 1544 351 35 1,625,832
VO1WET 2055 253 20 1,555,191
K8AL 1423 361 29 1,541,109 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K3MD 1411 331 31 1,401,123 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N0KV 1484 305 35 1,347,795
N2GC 1294 322 28 1,250,004 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N3HXQ 1306 306 39 1,188,810 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
N6ZZ 1614 241 25 1,156,077
N1JP 1166 312 26 1,091,376 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
K4BAI 1438 252 1,087,128 SOUTH EAST CONTEST C
KI9A @K0LIR 1248 97 28 1,063,296 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K0OU 1047 297 29 932,877 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K2BX 1009 290 20 877,830 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W1AO 1006 285 18 860,130 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W9JA 808 330 24 799,920
N6CCL 829 276 683,100 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
KI6CG 874 230 24 602,370 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
AD8J 748 237 16 531,828 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K6LRN 659 237 468,549 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
K1TEO 771 196 7 453,348
W0ZQ 648 227 441,288 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N8PW 657 220 28 432,960 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K5XR (W5ASP) 740 195 432,900 TEXAS DX SOCIETY
K5YAA 713 178 18 380,742 OKLAHOMA DX ASSOCIAT
NR7DX (K7ABV) 602 206 15 372,036 NORTHERN ROCKIES DX
K3VA 505 231 349,965 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
KO7X @KI7WX 305 154 5 140,910 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W4NZ 321 137 8 131,931 TENNESSEE CONTEST GR
VE5CPU 147 65 4 28,665
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOAB(A) LP
NA2U 1261 329 30 1,244,607 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W0LSD 1055 289 30 914,685
K5IID 995 298 31 889,530 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
N6WS 908 314 30 854,394 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
WO1N 709 335 22 712,545 YU CONTEST CLUB
K0UK 669 317 636,219 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
K0PC 590 226 19 400,200 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N1NB 554 236 16 392,232 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
KB1GW 626 195 22 365,626 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
WN6K 528 228 15 361,152 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
K9GY 460 94 129,720 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K6KYJ 294 139 19 122,598 WIRED LIL' PISTOLS
N3SD 252 152 114,912 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOAB(A) HP
KE2TR 1934 414 40 24,000,786
K3WW 3356 523 48 5,265,564 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W2RE 3239 506 45 4,915,284 HVCDX
K2DM 2514 453 39 3,415,167 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W1GD 2278 448 38 3,061,632
W2GDJ 2201 433 40 2,859,099 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N8TR 2015 471 40 2,847,195 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K5KG 2046 430 38 2,638,050 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
AA3B 2051 408 39 2,510,424 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3PP 1848 381 32 2,112,264 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W3MF 1688 408 26 2,066,112 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N0AV 1361 385 24 1,570,800
N8KM 1465 357 40 1,569,015 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
N3ZA 1204 416 38 1,502,592 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
VE1OP 1417 346 28 1,462,542
K8LN 1232 363 24 1,341,648 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
ND5S 1018 427 23 1,302,777 GREAT LAKES DX / CON
WT3W 1134 349 24 1,187,298 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K1GU 1142 335 36 1,147,710 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
K0KX 1116 338 16 1,128,582 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
W8CAR 1256 269 20 1,013,592 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
W3GH 1012 311 1,012,305
N2CY 1037 306 27 951,966 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W6TK 1023 304 19 930,240 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
KA2D 1046 292 27 916,926 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W3GM (K3ND) 929 313 19 872,331 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N0XB 1072 270 24 867,510 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
K1JE 890 288 768,096 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NX5M 700 308 9 646,800 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
AA4V 783 266 11 623,238 CAROLINA DX ASSOCIAT
W3IQ 837 221 554,931 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
KI6T 709 245 521,115 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
NA2M 555 260 432,900 ORDER OF BOILED OWLS
W2UP 552 261 5 432,216 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K7OX 548 235 385,635
KD2HE 530 201 319,590
K6RIM 429 226 290,862 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
KC0CZI 422 158 12 198,132
WC1M 381 165 5 188,595 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
AB1R 262 152 13 119,016
KW8W 158 106 5 50,244 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
WO9S 127 63 24,003 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/10 QRP
K6III 158 56 26,544 NCCC
W6RCL 140 43 18,060
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/10 LP
W7ZR 936 116 24 325,728 WVDXC
N6MU @N6NB 932 109 304,764 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
W7UT 721 114 246,582 UTAH'S DIXIE DX & CO
W0ETC 775 104 15 241,800 TENNESSEE CONTEST GR
N7CZ 410 80 98,400
KS2G 414 76 7 94,392 ORDER OF BOILED OWLS
N2CU 374 84 8 94,248 WESTERN NEW YORK DX
KN0V 253 759 53,889 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
WA7BNM 100 54 2 16,200 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/10 HP
W4ZV 2212 135 31 895,860 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W5PR 2102 134 845,004 TEXAS DX SOCIETY
K9NW @K9UWA 1973 123 30 728,037 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
VO1MP 1795 116 624,660
K7XZ (K1MY) 1715 115 30 591,330 CENTRAL ARIZONA DX A
K7QQ 1624 113 550,536 WWDXC
K5AM 1606 111 534,798
N3HBX 1708 103 527,772 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
VA7XX 1534 112 514,752
N6ED 1300 119 464,100
VE6JY (TI2WGO) 977 111 325,008
K3JT 1044 99 309,474 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
N7YX 680 110 20 223,410 WWDXC
K8IR 479 89 17 127,626 BAY AREA WIRELESS AS
N5KB 174 76 39,672 NORTH TEXAS CONTEST
W4ZYT 127 55 2 20,955 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/15 LP
VE3RCN 175 65 24 34,125
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/15 HP
VE6WQ @VE6JY 277 136 1,048,152
N3RD @N3RS 2286 146 1,001,268 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N2TX 2183 142 929,532 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W7WA 2297 132 909,612 WWDXC
K6HNZ 1295 109 423,465
AD4L @N4AF 1196 118 30 423,384 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W4SAA 320 84 14 80,720 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/20 LP
W5ZO 377 92 105,182
K0FX 234 79 5 55,458 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
VA3WN 72 42 3 8,946
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/20 HP
N7DD 1344 124 499,596
WW4M @N4AF 1161 105 365,400 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
K4XDX 726 114 24 246,114
VE6EX @VE6JY 818 99 38 225,720
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/40 LP
W4NC (N4VHK) 100 47 10 14,100 CAROLINA DX ASSOCIAT
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/40 HP
K4XS 856 92 29 236,256 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
VA6MA (VE6MAA) 309 72 66,744
KD4RH 116 52 12 18,096 CAROLINA DX ASSOCIAT
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/80 HP
VA6DXR (VE6JY) 37 24 2,592
Teams:
9A7A 9A8A, 9A7V, 9A6DM, 9A4RX, 9A4PA, 9A4BT, 9A3TR,
9A3OS, 9A2ME
HG6N HA3OV HA6DX HA6ND HA6NF HA6NQ HA6NY HA6PX
DL6RAI DL1MGB, DL2NBU, DL4RDJ, DL6RAI AND DJ5CL
OA4O OA4EI, OA4AHW, OA4BHY, OA4CRK, OA4DII, OA4DIX,
OA4DJW, OA4DKC, OA4DMR (OH0XX), DL1NL
LY7Z LY1DS, LY2TA, LY3MM
YT9X @YU1AAX YT1RU, YT1RA, YZ1KA, YU1JW, YU1ZZ, MARKO
EA5DFV EA5ON EA5CLH EC5CPL EA5DFV
V26S N2WKS KD3TB W3CF
9A1A N4PN, NF4A, 9A5W, 9A3GW, 9A6A, 9A6D, 9A7R,
9A5K, 9A8W, 9A9A
EA8ZS EA8ZS AND GALDAR CONTEST TEAM
LT1F LU1FAM, LU1FGE, LU1FT, LU1FD, LU1FKR, LU3FP,
LU3FZW, LU5FHM, LU6FQD, LU8FOX, LU2FV
KH6/W2EDD @KH AD4J, K3ZM, W4GKA
VP5B K4ISV, K4CN
FY5KE F1HAR F5MZN F6FVY FY5FU FY5FY F5HRY
PJ4G K2NG, K2TW, NO2R
TM5C F6CTT - F5MUX - F5NLY - F5VCO - F4SGU
CT9M CT3BD, CT3DL, CT3EE, CT3EN, CT3HK, CT3IA,
CT3IQ, CT3KU
OM0M OM3BH, OM3CHL, OM8DX, OM8AW
OM7M OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OE2S OE2GEN, OE2LCM, OE2MON, OE2VEL
IQ4T I4IFL I4MNY IK4HVR IK4MGP IK4MGX IK4SXJ IK4WMH
PW0T PY7ZZ, PY7XC, PY5CC, PY5HSD, PT7BZ, PY1RO,
PY0FF, N6FF, PY7ZY
SN8V @SP8YMM SP8GQU, SP8ARY, SP8GWI, SP8LBK, SP8NCF, SQ8BGJ
LU1NF LU1NDC, LU2NI & LU8NA
PI4TUE PA3EZL PE1PRG
LA2Z LA3BO, LA6MV
IO4T IK4RQJ, IK4VET, IK4XCL, IK4ZHH, IK4ALM, IZ4DIJ
VK4UC VK4UC;NO7T
V31MF V31MF/KC5ZT
K4JA K4JA, K4MA, K9JY, KE9I, W3BP, KG9X
KI1G KI1G, K1NG, WF1B,KS1J,K1JN,K1SD,KB1LN
KR1G WA1S NR1DX W1AAX WC1M KR1G
N4TO K1TO, N4DL, N4TO, T93M, T93Y
K1IR AA1AA, K1EP, K1IR, KM2P, W1VE
KB1H KB1H, NB1U, N1XS, K1EBY, AA1CE, KB1DFB, W1TJL,
W3TB, KE1LI
W5KFT W5KFT, W6PH, K5TSQ, K5PI, W5TA, W5JEN, W5TD
VE6SV VE5FN VA6EA VE6AKY VE6EZ VE6NAP VE6RFM VE6SV
K2RD WA1FCN W1CU K2WR K2RD
NK7U NK7U, K7ZO, W7ZRC, WA7LT, KK7A, K7MK
N5TW WM5R NA4M KM5TY N5DUW WS4G W5TD N5TW
VE1JF VE1JF, VE1AI, VE1AMJ, VE1DHD, VE1HC, VE1MOO
AA5NT N3BUO, KK7JS, WD5FLK, N1CC, N5NJ, AA5NT,
KC5LOS, KC5SDY, W5GDC
KK1L KK1L, K1KD, W1SJ, W1DEC, AA1SU, K1WEY, N1ZUK,
K1HD, KC1WH
VE7SCC VE7HHS VA7DX
N3BB W5JEN, W5RQA, W5TA, WR5Q, KD5QJV, N3BB
KC1XX K1GQ W1FV AD1C HC1OT K6AW W1MD W2RQ K1XX
K9NS AA9D,K9DX,K9HMB,K9NO,K9PPY,K9PW,K9QVB,K9RO,
K9RS,KO9A,KS9W,W9RM,WE9V.
W2FU W2FU, K2UA, N2MG, K2AXX, K2DB, K2TER, K1PY
W1FJ @W1KM NB1B, W1KM, N1TB, N1NK, W1NA, W1FJ
N2RM N2RM N2NC WM2H
W3PP W3PP N6ZO K3FT N3KW W2GJ KB3FEE W3PAR N3PT KW3Z
K3ANS K3ANS, N3PUR, N3MX, KB3CBO, K3YD, W3ZL, KC3WX,
W0RSJ
K3NM K3IPK,K3ZV,LU9AY,K3NM
N6RO K3EST, K6RC, K6TA, K6KO, KI7WX, W6SR, N6BV,
N6SNO, N6RO
W4MYA N4DEN, N4EHJ, K4KJL,K4KML,K4WMA,KF4QQY,W4HZ,
W4MYA,WK4Y
W8ZA K3DNE, K8OQL, ND3A, N8II, W8ZA
W2CG W2CG, W2EN, W2NO, K2WJ
K3OO @K3OOO K3OO & K3OOO
K3CT @K3II K3CT, K3II
NY4T NY4T N4LKE W1ADE KR4FO KG4RDF KG4MHK
K8AZ K8AZ, K8BL, K8NZ, ND8L, W8KIC, WB8K, WT8C
W0GU @N2IC N2IC,NA5S,K0KR
W4MR @AA4NC AA4NC, N4YDU, K4HA
K8CC K8CC, K8GL, KE8OC
K5NZ W5BA , K5GA , K5NZ
K0DU K0CL, N0ZA, KC0DKX,K0UK
K2XR K2XR+K2OWR+WB2WIK
NE3F KS3F K3ATO NT3V NG3Z KB3GWY
K5NA K5NA, K5DU, KI5DR, N5ZC, K2UR, NT5C
N5YA N5YA, WX0B, N5KR, K5MR, K5WO, KR5F
K2KQ K2KQ, W2WB
N1MM N1MM, N1IXF
VA3RU VE3NZ VA3RU
KR0B KR0B,NOBKL,KS0T,N0RA,KJ0B,K0KP,KB0KQA
W0ZT W0ZT, K0SR, K0XN
K0TV KB1PZ W1ES NF1A K0TV
N1LN W5MF, K7LEX, W5MJS, N1LN
VE3HG VE3HG, VE3RZ, VA3GGF, VA3EC
W6EEN W6EEN, K6XC, W6AQ, W6ORD
K0FJ K0FJ K0BJ KC0JAO
W3LJ W3IDT K3NCO KA3UBJ W3LJ
K9ES K9ES, AD4ES
>From K4tmc at aol.com Fri Apr 5 22:27:18 2002
From: K4tmc@aol.com (K4tmc@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Huntsville, AL
Message-ID: <d3.976099e.29dfc516@aol.com>
Any contesters in the Huntsville area? I'll be in town visiting Wyle Labs
for a few days and wondering if there are any local club meetings happening.
Or, would anyone be interested in contest strategy discussions during dinner
one evening?
73,
Henry Pollock - K4TMC
Raleigh, NC
>From k7qq at netzero.net Sat Apr 6 06:47:34 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <00ee01c1dd2f$ca75be40$fb1dfa43@computer>
Hey Bob U can do like I do Archieve them then U have too many per band file
to even look at them
QUACK
----- Original Message -----
From: <bob.wruble@verizon.net>
To: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>; "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 17:25
Subject: Re: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> forcing u to upload all of ur logs is a stupid move in my opinion
> becuz that sends a endless stream of eqsls to stations that
> have no interest in getting them .... like me!
> why do i need 20 qsls from k7qq each contest season??
> or from other domestic contest stns??
>
> i have not uploaded any of my annual 30k plus contest
> qsos to eqsl for this very reason ....... i saw eqsl as a great tool to
> respond to the constant drone of incoming qsl requests
> that follow/plague contesters ........
>
> i want to support the paper chasers in the hobby in exchage for their
wking
> me in the contests ......... but now it looks like this
> can't be done without uploading the logs?
>
> lifes a bitch and then u die!
>
> de w7gg/ai7b/ww7or
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
> To: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:42 PM
> Subject: Fw: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> > Quacks
> > I find that in most cases where I have one that isn't correct its is
> simply
> > a bad time or band in the Log that I uploaded or his log. When U reject
> > just put in the time shown in Ur log and if he wants the card he can
> obtain
> > it that way. I don't even look at the ards that come thru. I respond
> when
> > I get SASE /$ I have 5 years of cards at the buro that I may get some
> day.
> > I load logs to e-QSL right after a contest so I don't have to confirm
> them.
> > The recient chang at e-QSL makes for a bigger job but no BFD. I still
am
> > tring to work WAS.
> >
> > Quack
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ted demopoulos" <kr1g@hotmail.com>
> > To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 03:10
> > Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> >
> >
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > > You are not quite right, although close. If the times are off or
> something
> > > else is wrong (and you probably won't know what, just that you worked
> > > P5/KR1G on 160 and the logs have been submitted and you don't have
> > credit),
> > > you would de *exactly* what you do today - send P5/KR1G's QSL manager,
> > > KC1XX, a note saying "man I know I'm in the log can you double check
> > > please?" And Matt may find a problem, like your call K1IR was logged
> > > correctly on the cheap one-ply toilet paper KR1G used for logging
> because
> > > his laptop ran erratically on P5 power but copied into the computer
log
> > > incorrectly.
> > >
> > > As far as being too strict, blame me!! The biggest strength and reason
> for
> > > the prestige of the DXCC program is its security - yes, you can scam
it.
> > > Print your own DL, and G and EA6 and PYOF cards and submit them and
> > they'll
> > > probably pass. Try that with a P5 or VU7 card and it gets *much*
harder.
> > > They do catch cheaters quite often I'm told. Any eQSL system MUST be
at
> > > least as secure! If its too secure and a too much of a hassle (the two
> go
> > > hand in hand), it can be loosened later. We did consider possible (in
> some
> > > cases probable) attacks and some of the "features" are designed
> especially
> > > for them. Yes, I am Paranoid - its my job :)
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Ted KR1G
> > >
> > > >From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
> > > >To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> > > >
> > > >Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what
we
> > can
> > > >call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the
> > point?
> > > >If
> > > >you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We
> submit
> > > >the
> > > >information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations
review
> > > >their
> > > >logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good
one,
> > but
> > > >I
> > > >don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our
clocks
> > are
> > > >off
> > > >by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line
> > QSL -
> > > >no
> > > >QSO - and no way to track it.
> > > >
> > > >What do the DXCC Rules say?
> > > >
> > > >"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV
apply,
> > > >written
> > > >proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be
> > > >submitted
> > > >directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . .
> Staff
> > > >may
> > > >accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are
adopted."
> > > >
> > > >and,
> > > >
> > > >"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the
call
> > > >signs of
> > > >both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and
> date,
> > > >time
> > > >and band."
> > > >
> > > >For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX
station -
> > > >solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new
> double-blind
> > > >confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic
> QSLing.
> > > >
> > > >It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a
pleasure
> to
> > > >get
> > > >them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether
> > printed
> > > >or
> > > >electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed
country.
> > > >
> > > >Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL
> > DXCC
> > > >policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
> > > >accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
> > > >
> > > >73,
> > > >
> > > >Jim Idelson K1IR
> > > >email k1ir@designet.com
> > > >web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
> > > >
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> > >
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>From ei4hq at qsl.net Sat Apr 6 08:22:35 2002
From: ei4hq@qsl.net (Cormac, EI4HQ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re eQSL change of policy...
Message-ID: <005001c1dd3b$d3e08440$0200a8c0@CormacGebruers>
I've been following this thread with some interest. I've some clarifications if
I may. All the questions below relate to statements made in emails on this
thread...
Is it the case that US stations are not required to maintain a general logbook
of all contacts?
How is eQSL "charging" for "free" QSL's?
How is eQSL effectively behaving as a QSL manager?
Cormac, EI4HQ
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>From BobK8IA at aol.com Sat Apr 6 07:23:24 2002
From: BobK8IA@aol.com (BobK8IA@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New Contesting Radio?
Message-ID: <1a8.421a45.29e042bc@aol.com>
>From http://www.tentec.com/TT565.htm
"Instant Two Radio Mode" allows ORION to instantly QSY between two different
bands. Two linear amplifiers, two sets of accessory devices via dual band data
outputs and two antennas can optionally be connected to ORION to allow
instantaneous QSY.
Unfortunately is still "looks like a TenTec"
73, de Hans, K0HB
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Hi Hans;
I guess I've been away from contesting too long as I didnt realize that they
gave points for how sexy the radio one is competing with looks! <g>
Seriously, if a radio yields the perfomance and flexiblility necessary for
that competitive "edge" I couldnt care less what it looks like. And
competition is why we all subscribe to this thread, right?
Nope, I am not a Ten Tec user/owner but the Orion certainly intirgues me.
Take care..see ya
73, Bob K8IA
Michigan USA
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Sat Apr 6 07:20:29 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New Contesting Radio?
In-Reply-To: <001c01c1dcd7$fe2fa820$0215be3f@bigguy>
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020406071307.02516ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 08:27 PM 4/5/02 +0100, K0HB wrote:
>Unfortunately is still "looks like a TenTec"
Yeah, but ... It looks as if they have clearly given ergonomics a lot more
thought than Yaesu et al. Look where the knobs are -- no important
controls on little bitty knobs along the bottom edge of the radio where you
almost need tweezers to get at them. No letting the shape of the previous
panel casting drive the new control layout...
Also, cascading narrow crystal filters in the first IF with IF DSP further
back sure makes sense to this layman, compared to wide roofing filters with
the sharpness at the back end -- if it works as described, there may be a
lot of MPs and Mark V's on the used market.
>From k7qq at netzero.net Sat Apr 6 16:41:28 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: K6III has rejected one of your eQSL log entries
Message-ID: <013a01c1dd81$c8332800$fb1dfa43@computer>
Quacks
I don't have any logs prior to 1997 in ADIF format so I just tell those
prior to that date no chance of confirmation.
I have found that by sending an e-mail to some rejections with date, time,
and band they are able to get confirmation if they desire. Its a bit of a
hassle, but part of the price of contesting. I have 44K Q's uploaded and
have maybe looked at 2 or 3 that have come in via e-qsl.
Don't complain guys just archieve them and delete the reject messages from
e-QSL if its too much bother.
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: <k6iii@juno.com>
To: <k7qq@netzero.net>
Cc: <k6iii@arrl.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 06:59
Subject: Re: K6III has rejected one of your eQSL log entries
> Yea, right.... need another eQSL like a....
> The new eQSL inbox format is not my idea of the way to go, but, then I
> guess that's the price to get the accredited for DXCC, etc...
>
> Trying to find old logs from 12-13 years ago is a no go...
>
> 73 es see u in the next contest.
>
> de Jerry/k6iii
> San Jose, CA
> On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 06:30:33 +0100 "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net> writes:
> > Tnx 100"s of Q's in contest I really need this confirmation HA HA.
> > 73 and
> > CU in the next one
> > Quack
>
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Apr 6 13:54:36 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re eQSL change of policy...
References: <200204061702.g36H2XAl032110@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <005201c1dd9c$c477b260$03010a0a@office1>
Cormac,
Good questions. Short answers:
1. For many years, the US FCC has not legally required us to keep a
logbook -- and some don't. We are encouraged to do so but it's no longer a
legal requirement.
2. eQSL will print and mail a QSL that has been put in your electronic "in
box." Right now this is only available in North America. They will charge,
at present, $1 per card, with a $5 minimum charge to set up your "account."
3. If anyone prints a QSL card with your call on it, and sends out that
card based on your log, they are acting as a QSL Manager. eQSL's present
system of charging for cards means that they are doing just that, since the
printed card is based on your log. This is why many amateurs have now
pulled their logs from eQSL.cc.
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cormac, EI4HQ" <ei4hq@qsl.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re eQSL change of policy...
I've been following this thread with some interest. I've some
clarifications if I may. All the questions below relate to statements
made in emails on this thread...
Is it the case that US stations are not required to maintain a general
logbook of all contacts?
How is eQSL "charging" for "free" QSL's?
How is eQSL effectively behaving as a QSL manager?
Cormac, EI4HQ
>From thompson at mindspring.com Sat Apr 6 15:08:03 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ten Tec Orion and limited SO2R
Message-ID: <006901c1dda6$c2b165c0$476156d1@default>
Hans, K0HB mention of the ability of the orion to handle limited two radio
function can easily be accomplished now with Software defined radios SDR.
The Orion and the FT1000D allows limited SO2R and now the Orion allows a
second amp and antenna. Even back in the late 60's Hallicrafters SR2000 and
SR400 allowed two frequency operation at once so you could run on say 14155
and tune the band with the other VFO. Both allowed dual RX without switching
between the two VFO's. This can be done (less the dual duplex RX) with
most transceivers. My older FT980's allow me to work satellite on 21.230
and receive on 28.940.
SO2R is easy when you are Single band because there is usually no need for
another amp and antenna. Multi band SO2R is more complicated. Even the
logging software has to be set up properly to record the right rig and band.
On the writelog reflector a common complaint is that the wrong band or mode
was logged and how do you fix??
73 Dave K4JRB
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Sat Apr 6 19:08:38 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References:
<20020405122256.5465.c002-h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <013601c1ddd0$c00c1d40$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
> present system or any future system. But the machine can stop an
> individual from fraudulently taking advantage of some else's error. Is
> it worth it the inconvience?
A machine can also obscure a small but pertinent piece of information (e.g.
log entry is local time not UTC) that would allow a human to quickly
identify and verify a questionable qso in a collection of logs. While a
machine can present a barrier to fraud it can also present a barrier to
knowledge. Furthermore, erecting machine barriers of any kind can turn a
system design into an endless exercise of dealing with exceptions -- these
systems can collapse under their own complexity. Wisdom suggests that just
because it can be done by machine does not mean it should be done.
> Anyone got a different solution?
Accept the simple realization that an ARRL award or any other award for that
matter is simply that an award. We do not need to build a Fort Knox to
protect these awards. And yes cheaters will some times get certificates - so
what! Why not build a system that follows an age old amateur radio community
tradition of striving to enable the exchange of knowledge and not hinder it.
A twist. All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as well
as more check logs!
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From ve4xt at mb.sympatico.ca Sat Apr 6 20:25:23 2002
From: ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K7RI, KH6J, K7QQ, K7BV, K9NS, W1YK
Message-ID: <003401c1dddb$792308c0$0100a8c0@joe>
Hi, if you're one of these guys, I want to hear from you!
I'm writing the QST report for 2001 ARRL SS Phone, and I need to talk (type)
to you about your station and your effort.
Please e-mail me at ve4xt@mts.net or reply to this message.
Thanks!
Kelly
VE4XT
>From ve4xt at mb.sympatico.ca Sat Apr 6 21:17:32 2002
From: ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Did you miss just one sect. in SS Phone?
Message-ID: <00a901c1dde2$c1cefdc0$0100a8c0@joe>
Please tell me which one it was. Just doing a quick poll for a report on SS
in QST.
Thanks.
Kelly
ve4xt
>From k7qq at netzero.net Sun Apr 7 07:49:15 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <004701c1ddf7$f7be77c0$052bfa43@computer>
Quacks
The following by VE5XZ is an exlent idea for LOtw and would encourage more
contest activity I'm sure by the casual op's who are looking to get WAS ,
DXCC, and band states , countries. I hope others in the Contest community
will push this idea.
Rex K7QQ
> > Anyone got a different solution?
>
> Accept the simple realization that an ARRL award or any other award for
that
> matter is simply that an award. We do not need to build a Fort Knox to
> protect these awards. And yes cheaters will some times get certificates -
so
> what! Why not build a system that follows an age old amateur radio
community
> tradition of striving to enable the exchange of knowledge and not hinder
it.
>
> A twist. All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
> contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
> award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
> required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as
well
> as more check logs!
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> "A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
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>From k0hb at earthlink.net Sun Apr 7 07:10:23 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <004701c1ddf7$f7be77c0$052bfa43@computer>
Message-ID: <003901c1ddf2$86e715c0$3d11be3f@bigguy>
Sure sounds like a no-brainer to me.
"Way back when" such contacts in ARRL DX Contest were creditable.
73, Hans, K0HB
> > A twist. All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
> > contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
> > award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
> > required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as
> >well as more check logs!
>From ve3pn at igs.net Sun Apr 7 08:05:25 2002
From: ve3pn@igs.net (PETER BARRON)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #87 - 9 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200204060555.g365t1Al022144@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000501c1de02$97c4c300$98f4a8c0@HOMEOFFICE>
I also read that with interest BUT does it allow true two radio mode i.e. Rx
on radio 2 whilst TX on radio1
Its does say (my underlining)
""Instant Two Radio Mode" allows ORION to instantly QSY between two
different bands. Two linear amplifiers, two sets of accessory devices via
dual band data outputs and two antennas can optionally be connected to ORION
to allow instantaneous QSY (useful for seeking out and working stations on
one band during a contest while CQing on a different band, for example)."
This IMPLIES that radio 1 can be CQing i.e. Transmitting on one band whilst
Rx on another BUT does not specifically say that one can
Peter
Ve3pn@igs.net
From: "K0HB" <k0hb@earthlink.net>
To: "MWA Reflector" <mn-wireless-assn@yahoogroups.com>,
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New Contesting Radio?
>From http://www.tentec.com/TT565.htm
"Instant Two Radio Mode" allows ORION to instantly QSY between two different
bands. Two linear amplifiers, two sets of accessory devices via dual band
data
outputs and two antennas can optionally be connected to ORION to allow
instantaneous QSY.
Unfortunately is still "looks like a TenTec"
73, de Hans, K0HB
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Sun Apr 7 08:11:27 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020407071051.00c60220@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
Sylvan,
The below used to be the case. I'm not sure when it
stopped, but it was a good deal for those taht don't
like to QSL. I have often thought that it would be a good
deal to bring it back.
As you say, with the software that is in place now, they
could just credit you and then notify you later...hi.
73, Tom K5IID
At 19:08 04/06/02 -0600, you wrote:
>A twist. All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
>contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
>award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
>required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as well
>as more check logs!
>From k7zo at cableone.net Sun Apr 7 11:04:32 2002
From: k7zo@cableone.net (K7ZO (Scott Tuthill))
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX M/S Rules Question
Message-ID: <004101c1de4d$e7e3d240$6401a8c0@3ComC>
To all: I have a question on the WPX M/S rules. I was at NK7U last weekend
and we were going to operate M/S but then realized that we either did not
understand the M/S rules and/or Writelog could not manage it. Overall the
M/S rules are very familiar as they match CQWW. The question is with respect
to serial numbers. The rules state: " One -- and only one -- other band may
be used during any 10-minute period if -- and only if -- the station worked
is a new multiplier. Use a separate serial numbers for the multiplier
station...."
Does this mean you would have, potentially, two separate serial number
sequences on a given band? For example, NK7U starts the contest and is
running on 10M. I find a new mult on 15M and work it giving it serial number
1. I then go on to find several other mults giving them serial number 2, 3,
4, and 5. Then later when 10M dies and NK7U moves to 15M and starts running
what serial number does he start with. Does he start with 1 since that would
be a separate serial number sequence for running. Or does he use 6 since
that would be the next serial number in the 15M band sequence?
We could not figure it out so we ended up running a 2 person M/M instead.
Then the flares pretty well wiped things out anyway....
Thanks for your help.
Scott/K7ZO
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Sun Apr 7 14:18:56 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL awards/contest logs
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHGEKMDEAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
Ve5ZX wrote:
>All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
>contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
>award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
?required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as well
>as more check logs! ... sylvan
And I think it's a GREAT idea. Suggest it to your ARRL director!
N2EA
>From w7why at harborside.com Sun Apr 7 21:11:06 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <s1h8xf5bc0ebapn.030420022037@designet-jsi>
Message-ID: <3CB099CA.B49A99EE@harborside.com>
Jim Idelson wrote:
> What do the DXCC Rules say?
>
> "2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV >apply,
> written proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication >(contacts) must be
> submitted directly to ARRL Headquarters for >all DXCC credits claimed . . .
Most of the cards I now get just have a label affixed to them.
Anyone can get (or make) a card and print a label. They are
rarely signed any more and they usually cone in an envelope so
they have no postmarks or stamps on them. I remember the last
time I got a bunch of samples from a QSL card printer they had
some pretty good DX cards in them. Just print out some labels
and stick them on a card and mail them in. How is that more
secure than an eQSL?
Tom W7WHY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sun Apr 7 18:25:55 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 SP DX Contest - Claimed scores 07Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020407171945.00aa55a0@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 SP DX Contest - Claimed scores 07Apr2002
Log Due: April 30, 2002
E-mail logs to: spdxc-logs@pzk.org.pl
Mail logs to:
Polski Zwiazek Krotkofalowcow
SPDX Contest Committee
P.O. Box 320
00-950 Warszawa
Poland
Find rules at: http://www.sp5zcc.waw.pl/spdxc/reg_g.html
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
3830 Archives - http://lists.contesting.com/_3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABCW
SN7N (SP7PS) HP 1013 0 192 24 361,728
N1RR HP 522 0 84 19 131,544
VE3QAA HP 500 0 81 121,500
VE1OP HP 363 0 63 15 68,607
W4SAA HP 297 0 68 60,588
AB2E LP 172 0 61 10 31,476
N6ZZ HP 165 0 53 26,235
VE9DX LP 27 0 15 1,215
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABMixed
RD4M (UA4LU) HP 403 552 77 19 220,605
K3WW HP 404 360 85 14 194,565
N2ED HP 433 329 80 14 178,080
N9RV HP 149 2 45 2 20,385
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABSSB
VE6POL @VE6JY HP 0 486 52 20 74,880
VE3BUC LP 0 70 210 3 6,090
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/10SSB
VA3KA HP 0 223 16 8 10,704
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/20CW
K2SX HP 88 0 16 4,224
K9NW LP 8 0 6 144
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/20SSB
M0GTO LP 0 30 11 2 990
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/80CW
LY2NXW LP 102 0 16 4,896
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/80Mixed
LY2FY HP 0 162 31 7 14,973 KTU RC
Band Breakdowns:
160 80 40 20 15 10
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABCW
SN7N (SP7
004/000/017 13/000/033 24/000/036 32/000/050 18/000/036 8/000/020
N1RR 006/000/003 33/000/016 58/000/016 131/000/016 165/000/017
129/000/016
VE3QAA 001/000/001 39/000/016 58/000/016 125/000/016 164/000/016
113/000/016
VE1OP 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
/000/000
W4SAA 000/000/000 7/000/006 59/000/016 71/000/014 80/000/016
80/000/016
AB2E 000/000/000 11/000/009 46/000/016 59/000/015 45/000/015
11/000/006
N6ZZ 000/000/000 /000/000 14/000/010 47/000/016 78/000/016
26/000/011
VE9DX 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 15/000/007
12/000/008
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABMixed
RD4M (UA4 031/000/013 98/000/016 169/000/016 335/000/016
332/000/016 /000/000
K3WW 005/000/005 42/003/016 64/000/016 102/112/016
117/165/016 74/080/016
N2ED 005/000/003 23/000/013 46/005/016 100/067/016
174/196/016 85/060/016
N9RV 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 34/000/014 83/020/016
32/000/015
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABSSB
VE6POL @V
000/000/000 /000/000 /016/011 /206/016 /241/016 /023/009
VE3BUC 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /002/006 /034/102
/034/102
>From k2kw at prodigy.net Mon Apr 8 22:16:55 2002
From: k2kw@prodigy.net (K2KW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Visalia Contest Dinner - Gett'n short!
Message-ID: <005401c1df7d$6337ec80$b11daace@main>
Visalia is just around the corner... Don't miss out on the best dinner at
Visalia!
The Northern California Contest Club Presents the 4th Annual International
DX Convention Contest Dinner on Friday, April 26, 2002.
EVENING EVENTS:
Dinner, guest speaker, lots of contesters & DXers & door prizes. We are
pleased to announce the evening presentation: Dr Beldar's Contest
Emporium - Products you might not see at HRO...
Doors and cash bar open at 7:00 p.m. Dinner is served at 8:00 p.m.
Full details are available on the International DX Convention web site:
http://www.qsl.net/visalia2002/events.html
Dinner Choices: Prime Rib of Beef -- $29.00 or Chicken Princess -- $23.00
Purchase tickets from:
Tom Taormina, K5RC
Productivity Resources
PO Box 1126
Virginia City NV 89440
775-847-7929
775-847-7930 (FAX)
K5RC@aol.com
73, Kenny K2KW & Steve, K6AW
Organizers, 4th Annual International DX Convention Contest Dinner
>From MPeiperl at london.edu Mon Apr 8 20:01:22 2002
From: MPeiperl@london.edu (Maury Peiperl)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
References: <200204081603.g38G37Al008268@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <3CB1DAF2.10704@london.edu>
Sylvan, that may be the single best idea I have ever heard in the DXCC /
Awards area. You are talking about confirmed contacts; that is, contacts
for which the League already has both logs and has compared them. Yes cards
are nice and there is nothing like the look and feel of a good, rare one,
but this doesn't do away with that; it merely supplements it with
incontrovertible
data provided by the amateurs themselves.
I for one would even be willing to pay (within reason) for such a service.
I could finally collect my 5BDXCC, which with two small kids and the other
pressures of mid-life, I might otherwise never manage to get all the cards
for.
73
Maury W3EF / G0UHK
Ve5ZX wrote:
All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
?required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as
well
as more check logs! ... sylvan
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Mon Apr 8 15:17:21 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL awards/contest logs
References: <200204081603.g38G38Al008271@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <021b01c1df2b$26fbaba0$03010a0a@office1>
I believe this is the direction they're headed in with the implementation of
the Cabrillo format, and ultimately with Logbook of the World (although
that's not all LotW is going to do).
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
----- Original Message -----
From: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Cc: <k1ki@arrl.org>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL awards/contest logs
Ve5ZX wrote:
>All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
>contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
>award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
?required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as
well
>as more check logs! ... sylvan
And I think it's a GREAT idea. Suggest it to your ARRL director!
N2EA
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Mon Apr 8 15:27:24 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204081603.g38G38Al008271@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <021c01c1df2b$27efcfa0$03010a0a@office1>
Most of the cards I've been getting lately have either been filled out by
hand, or the label has been either signed or stamped in some way to indicate
"verified by" the QSL manager(s) and their assistant(s).
While it is true that it's not that hard to make up a card, making up a full
color glossy card using the same photo(s) as many of the DXpeditions use
today, well, that's another story. And I really can't believe it would be
worth all the time, effort, and money to duplicate most of these cards, and
make them convincing enough to pass muster -- and why would you bother with
anything but the toughest ones anyway?
I think we can accept, though, that if someone is really determined enough,
they can fool the system -- and since people check the cards, mistakes
happen and invalid cards are sometimes accepted (and good ones not). Be so
as it may...
Look, the electronic QSL concept isn't neccesarily a bad one. eQSL.cc's
implementation of it has, sadly, left a lot to be desired -- they may have
been "first," but I sure wish they'd gotten it right instead.
But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their printed
eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real breakthrough.
And those of us who still feel the old fashioned "QSL card is the last
courtesy of a QSO" mantra can still exchange cards either via paper or
electronically as we so choose.
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Osborne <w7why@harborside.com>
Reply-To: w7why@harborside.com
Organization: Amateur Radio W7WHY
To: CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Jim Idelson wrote:
> What do the DXCC Rules say?
>
> "2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV >apply,
written proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication >(contacts) must be
submitted directly to ARRL Headquarters for >all DXCC credits claimed . . .
Most of the cards I now get just have a label affixed to them.
Anyone can get (or make) a card and print a label. They are
rarely signed any more and they usually cone in an envelope so
they have no postmarks or stamps on them. I remember the last
time I got a bunch of samples from a QSL card printer they had
some pretty good DX cards in them. Just print out some labels
and stick them on a card and mail them in. How is that more
secure than an eQSL?
Tom W7WHY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 8 21:44:15 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 SP DX Contest - Claimed scores 08/Apr/2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020408204255.00a16d00@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 SP DX Contest - Claimed scores 08/Apr/2002
Log Due: April 30, 2002
E-mail logs to: spdxc-logs@pzk.org.pl
Mail logs to:
Polski Zwiazek Krotkofalowcow
SPDX Contest Committee
P.O. Box 320
00-950 Warszawa
Poland
Find rules at: http://www.sp5zcc.waw.pl/spdxc/reg_g.html
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
3830 Archives - http://lists.contesting.com/_3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
M/S
SP8YMM HP 690 890 216 24 780,192
RT9W HP 1496 95 426,360 BASHKIRIAN DX CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABCW
SN7N (SP7PS) HP 1013 0 192 24 361,728
N1RR HP 522 0 84 19 131,544
VE3QAA HP 500 0 81 121,500
NY1S LP 367 0 65 13 71,175
VE1OP HP 363 0 63 15 68,607
W4SAA HP 297 0 68 60,588
F6IRF LP 268 0 63 50,652
AB2E LP 172 0 61 10 31,476
N6ZZ HP 165 0 53 26,235
N4GG HP 150 0 47 3 21,150
OM9ANL (F6FNL) LP 113 0 31 6 10,509
WN6K LP 50 0 17 2,550
VE9DX LP 27 0 15 1,215
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABMixed
SP2DWG LP 1003 165 330,165
UA9CDC HP 333 600 91 17 254,709
RD4M (UA4LU) HP 403 552 77 19 220,605
K3WW HP 404 360 85 14 194,565
N2ED HP 433 329 80 14 178,080
KM5G HP 244 73 57 54,207
N9RV HP 149 2 45 2 20,385
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABSSB
VE6POL @VE6JY HP 0 486 52 20 74,880
VE3BUC LP 0 70 210 3 6,090
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/10SSB
VA3KA HP 0 223 16 8 10,704
W5PR HP 0 185 16 8,880
VK2CZ HP 0 26 13 2 1,014
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/20CW
K2SX HP 88 0 16 4,224
K9NW LP 8 0 6 144
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/20SSB
M0GTO LP 0 30 11 2 990
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Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/80CW
LY2NXW LP 102 0 16 4,896
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Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/80Mixed
S53F LP 42 159 32 19,296
LY2FY HP 0 162 31 7 14,973 KTU RC
Band Breakdowns:
160 80 40 20 15
10
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
M/S
SP8YMM 037/000/011 84/000/025 264/000/040 447/000/000 502/000/000
246/000/000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABCW
SN7N (SP7
004/000/017 13/000/033 24/000/036 32/000/050 18/000/036 8/000/020
N1RR 006/000/003 33/000/016 58/000/016 131/000/016 165/000/017
129/000/016
VE3QAA 001/000/001 39/000/016 58/000/016 125/000/016 164/000/016
113/000/016
NY1S 000/000/000 4/000/004 33/000/014 109/000/015
135/000/016 86/000/016
VE1OP 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
/000/000
W4SAA 000/000/000 7/000/006 59/000/016 71/000/014 80/000/016
80/000/016
F6IRF 012/000/009 39/000/014 73/000/016
133/000/016 11/000/008 /000/000
AB2E 000/000/000 11/000/009 46/000/016 59/000/015 45/000/015
11/000/006
N6ZZ 000/000/000 /000/000 14/000/010 47/000/016 78/000/016
26/000/011
N4GG 000/000/000 1/000/001 31/000/015 54/000/015 64/000/016
/000/000
OM9ANL (F
000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
WN6K 000/000/000 /000/000 1/000/001 49/000/016 /000/000
/000/000
VE9DX 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 15/000/007
12/000/008
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABMixed
UA9CDC 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
/000/000
RD4M (UA4 031/000/013 98/000/016 169/000/016 335/000/016
332/000/016 /000/000
K3WW 005/000/005 42/003/016 64/000/016 102/112/016
117/165/016 74/080/016
N2ED 005/000/003 23/000/013 46/005/016 100/067/016
174/196/016 85/060/016
KM5G 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
/000/000
N9RV 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 34/000/014 83/020/016
32/000/015
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABSSB
VE6POL @V
000/000/000 /000/000 /016/011 /206/016 /241/016 /023/009
VE3BUC 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /002/006 /034/102
/034/102
Teams:
SP8YMM SP8GQU, SP8GWI, SP8LBK
RT9W RU9WX RX9WR RW9WW RV9WA UA9WFM & RA9WR
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 8 21:31:48 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 08Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204090331.g393Vmq11703@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 08Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCC
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCC
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 8 21:28:53 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 08Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204090328.g393SrL11691@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 08Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
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N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
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WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
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KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
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KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
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N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
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WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
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WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
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KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
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>From ve3pn at igs.net Tue Apr 9 05:15:21 2002
From: ve3pn@igs.net (PETER BARRON)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ten Tec Orion and limited SO2R
Message-ID: <000c01c1df7d$2acc6970$98f4a8c0@HOMEOFFICE>
Follow up on this topic from Ten Tec is
"Not if it is full duplex. While transmitting, the opposite receiver will
mute.
You can instantaneously transmit on the 'sub' frequency and the other
receiver will mute. You can control all of this via the computer
interface, and use two sets of band data and two linear amps (and
separate antennas) if desired."
Seems like the only advantage is the Two separate band outputs from
the Orion.
Peter
Ve3pn@igs.net
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ten Tec Orion and limited SO2R
Hans, K0HB mention of the ability of the orion to handle limited two radio
function can easily be accomplished now with Software defined radios SDR.
The Orion and the FT1000D allows limited SO2R and now the Orion allows a
second amp and antenna. Even back in the late 60's Hallicrafters SR2000 and
SR400 allowed two frequency operation at once so you could run on say 14155
and tune the band with the other VFO. Both allowed dual RX without switching
between the two VFO's. This can be done (less the dual duplex RX) with
most transceivers. My older FT980's allow me to work satellite on 21.230
and receive on 28.940.
SO2R is easy when you are Single band because there is usually no need for
another amp and antenna. Multi band SO2R is more complicated. Even the
logging software has to be set up properly to record the right rig and band.
On the writelog reflector a common complaint is that the wrong band or mode
was logged and how do you fix??
73 Dave K4JRB
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Tue Apr 9 10:02:21 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] (no subject)
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHCEMHDEAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
-0- snip
what's really important isn't the eQSL
"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real breakthrough.
73, ron wn3vaw
-0- snip
Yes. THAT is the central point.
>From what I can see, eQSL.cc, by using the double blind system, has
created the cross-referenced data. It's the access for award determination
that's the remaining roadblock.
Don't forget, eQSL.cc provides competition for ARRL in this arena. ARRL
is in no way motivated to work with the eQSL data. Indeed, it has proposed
a competitive response, in LotW.
73, Jim, N2EA
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Tue Apr 9 09:29:59 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <021c01c1df2b$27efcfa0$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204090805350.962-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
>
> I think we can accept, though, that if someone is really determined enough,
> they can fool the system -- and since people check the cards, mistakes
> happen and invalid cards are sometimes accepted (and good ones not). Be so
> as it may...
>
This always brings up a question with me. Why would someone want to fake
a QSL or a QSO on one for DXCC credit? I am an honest man and I don't
even have the slightest desire to do this. Maybe that is why I have a
hard time understanding those who would. Who are you really cheating if
you present a false card? Only yourself.
There could be a few who are just trying it to see if they can get away
with it - to "fool the system", as you said. I would guess that they care
so little about the DXCC program that they just want to see how far they
can stretch it.
I just received a QSL from a DXpedition which had QSO's on many bands
on it. I did notice that the person who filled it out by hand noted the
frequencies worked as "3.5" ... "7" ... "14" ... "18." ... "24" ... "28"
Notice the period after the "18" that wasn't on the other frequencies?
It's apparently there so no one can change it to "1.8" on the card.
> Look, the electronic QSL concept isn't neccesarily a bad one. eQSL.cc's
> implementation of it has, sadly, left a lot to be desired -- they may have
> been "first," but I sure wish they'd gotten it right instead.
>
> But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their printed
> eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
> "card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
> securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
> awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
> check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real breakthrough.
> And those of us who still feel the old fashioned "QSL card is the last
> courtesy of a QSO" mantra can still exchange cards either via paper or
> electronically as we so choose.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
I don't have anything against eQSL's. I still like the paper ones, though.
It's more fun to show them to non-hams once in a while. I've even gotten
a few people interested in ham radio by showing them DX cards.
One question about the LoTW project is what about the rare DX station who
doesn't have a computer and keeps paper logs? Is someone going to get his
logs and put them in digital format and send them to ARRL?
Just food for thought, in case there are any hungry minds this morning.
:-)
73, Zack W9SZ
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Tue Apr 9 14:42:08 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020409124208.013c6500@pop.vnet.net>
WN3VAW wrote:
>But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their printed
>eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
>"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
>securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
>awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
>check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real breakthrough.
I just uploaded ~37K of contest QSO's to eQSL for the past few
years and see no major security problems with the way eQSL is implemented.
In fact, it is actually more strict than I would be if I were answering
QSL's directly where I would recognize problems like "wrong band", "wrong
time" due to local time, "wrong date" for the contest, etc. eQSL does
make it difficult to diagnose these problems but you can always reject
the card and ask the sender to check his data again.
I totally agree with Ron's statement above. I am personally aware
of numerous attempts to submit false confirmations for 160 QSO's over the
years and the ultimate test of these is not the quality of the printing,
etc, but the QSO data which is in the log. If a QSO is in question, ARRL
has on several occasions contacted the QSL manager to request actual log
data to verify questionable QSL's. Making complete log data available will
make it VERY easy to catch erroneous confirmations and should improve the
integrity of the system currently used at ARRL. In fact, I suspect the
current system is not nearly as "clean" for most DXCC QSL's as it is for
160 confirmations which are checked at ARRL HQ with someone looking at
a greyline map to weed out obvious problem QSO's. eQSL and LotW should
make the system even better!
I feel eQSL and LotW are major steps in the right direction for
all of us. They will improve the integrity of awards and will especially
make life easier for those of us making many contest QSO's who may not
enjoy the QSL burden that comes with them.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From N5RP at pdq.net Tue Apr 9 10:16:50 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Internet packet feeds to other software
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020409091119.00b80c30@pop.pdq.net>
I could not find a consolidated source of information that outlined how to
get packet spots off of the Internet and have those spots fed into my NA
contest software, as well as feed any other software that might desire to
see a TNC as it's packet data collector. I use the following setup to grab
packet data for my DX4Windows software and for all DOS based contest software.
1)
I connect to the Internet for my packet spots using a program called
DX-Telnet, written by Fabrizio Sartini,
see: http://www.qsl.net/wd4ngb/telnet.htm
DX-Telnet has means for maintaining connection, re-connecting after
connections fail, and other niceties all built into the program.
I have used two methods for sending packet data to my main radio station
computer.
One method uses inter-computer communication within my home network.
The other (and better) method uses a spare computer (surplus laptop) to go
grab Internet packet data and then feed that data to an available COM port
on my main ham radio computer where I run contest software and my normal
day to day logging software.
I grab all of my packet spots using a high speed DSL connection via this
surplus laptop computer. That computer has to have the DX Telnet program on
it and two other necessary programs (UDPSEND & DXT4WIN), both of which are
included and sourced from Fabrizio.
Basically, the three programs that are needed to get Internet sourced
packet spot feeds from the laptop to my main station computer running NA or
DX 4 Windows are:
DX-Telnet - Gets the data from the Internet
DXT4WIN - Allows the main station computer to talk back to and into the
laptop machine that is acting as the pseudo TNC
UDPSEND - Allows the DX-Telnet collected data from my laptop to be fed
into my primary station computer COM port
On the packet connected computer (my laptop) I invoke UDPSEND, DXT4WIN, and
have these programs perform the rudiments of sending the DX-Telnet
collected data to a COM port on the laptop.
That laptop COM port is, in turn, connected by cable to a COM port on the
main station computer running the NA contest software or logging software.
Now then, you just configure the NA software or logging software as though
it were connected to a TNC, and the spots from the laptop are sent to the
main station computer COM port just like a normal TNC process.
After doing this setup of making an Internet grab computer feed into your
main radio station or contest computer, NA and my DX 4 Windows logging
software act as though they both have a TNC connected into the system, and
the packet spots are fed flawlessly.
This setup can feed packet spots to your computer for any program that
would normally use a TNC as its packet cluster data source.
2)
In addition to doing what I just outlined as what we might call part 1 of
the concept,
I will now lay out what we might refer to as part 2 of the concept.
That is the part where we customize the various programs to do what we
desire to accomplish.
As in the following:
UDPSEND -
In the setup for the UDPSEND program, you will have to "check" a box to
invoke the "CT Net Protocol" transmissions.
That tells the UDP program output transmissions to emulate a standard that
current DOS based contest softwares use.
DXT4WIN -
DXT4WIN does not require any boxes to be ticked, or any parameters to be set.
DX-Telnet -
aa)
DX-Telnet will require you to invoke the auxiliary COM port setup, and set
the parameters to the values that NA would normally expect to see from a
TNC such as proper COM port # and rate values of 9600,N,8,1.
For my situation, I use COM port #1 and 9600,N,8,1 parameters.
That simply tells DX-Telnet to send the info to a specified COM port on the
Internet collecting computer, and then forward that info out at parameter
value(s) that your main station computer software can read.
bb)
DX-Telnet will require you to invoke the "LINKS" parameters,
and set these values, as follows:
EXE Name = UDPSEND
Link Topic = UDP
Link Item = textin
That should do it for you.
Now then, you can use DX-Telnet with all of its filters, lights, Italian
accented announcements, dings and dongs features to go out, grab, keep
grabbing, etc. desired packet data from the variously available web sites
for same, and feed that info/data into any program that might desire to see
a TNC for its procurement process.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Tue Apr 9 16:06:39 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <200204091240.g39Ce6Al025891@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020409145049.00d23b00@pop.pacific.net.hk>
W7WHY asked how a traditional QSL with merely a computer generated label
could be more secure than an eQSL.
The DXCC Desk will check up on a card they suspect & will go to great lengths
to verify it. Perhaps an eQSL may appear to be no different than a
traditional one
to the layman, but after who knows how many cards have been processed by the
DXCC program, over the years it wouldn't surprise me they know what to look
for.
And from my experience, they certainly know a dodgy card when they see one.
73, BW2/VR2BrettGraham
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Tue Apr 9 16:20:21 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
In-Reply-To: <200204091240.g39Ce6Al025891@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020409144806.00d2eef0@pop.pacific.net.hk>
I may be QCWA material, though am still on the wrong side of 40 to have a
senior moment (or so I would like to think), but didn't ARRL used to give DXCC
credit in the past for those who worked a DX station that turned in a log
in the
ARRL DX test?
73, BW2/VR2BrettGraham
>From BobK8IA at aol.com Tue Apr 9 13:14:47 2002
From: BobK8IA@aol.com (BobK8IA@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
Message-ID: <89.163d19dc.29e46d77@aol.com>
>Ve5ZX wrote:
?
? ? All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
award for which it is considered to be a valid contact.
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----------------------------------------
This used to exist back in the 60s-70s when Bob White was running the DXCC
show.No software then, of course, but if ARRL had contest logs from both
parties you could get country credit.
Anyone know why/how they got away from that policy? I wouldnt think it would
be difficult to "re-implement", especially with Cabrillo logging!
73, Bob K8IA
Michigan USA
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>From k1ir at designet.com Tue Apr 9 14:23:24 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] (no subject)
Message-ID: <r0okp1xrmrzoj0m.090420021323@designet-jsi>
Fellow Contesters!
I am pleased to announce that the reins of YCCC leadership for 2002-2003 have
been transferred to a bold and brilliant new team:
Chris Terkla, N1XS - President
Art Holmes, W1RZF - Vice President
Don Toman, K2KQ - Activities Manager
Ed Parish, K1EP - Treasurer
Dennis Egan, NB1B - Secretary
We in New England [New York and a little bit of New Jersey, too] look forward
to another great year of exciting contest activity!
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From ei4hq at qsl.net Tue Apr 9 20:35:24 2002
From: ei4hq@qsl.net (Cormac, EI4HQ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204081603.g38G38Al008271@contesting.com>
<021c01c1df2b$27efcfa0$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <003701c1dff5$52e4ea40$0200a8c0@CormacGebruers>
Firstly thanks to all for answering the questions I posted in relation to
this thread on Saturday.
I emailed eQSL.cc and requested information on the "new" InBox situation.
Specifically I asked them about the strictness of the time match. The answer
I consider to be perfectly reasonable is that an acceptale match is one
where the times are within +/- 1 hour of each other. Sure if you're time
zones are screwed up then you might have a problem but otherwise I can't see
how that aspect of things would be a cause of upset for anyone. Everyone
does keep their logs (those that are required to...) in UTC... don't they?
A few general comments;
I'd consider how ARRL treats DXCC to be entirely up to them as its their
award. Hence the introduction, arrangements & management of LotW and their
acceptance/rejection or otherwise of eQSL.cc entirely up to them. If you
don't like what they're doing then don't apply for the award - otherwise
accept the rules as they make them...
I'm quite frankly amazed that US stations are not legally required to keep
logs anymore - no doubt it was debated high up and low down at the time but
seems nuts to me. How do I know that any US station I QSL has any idea I've
worked them - sounds like I could (feasibly) attempt random qsling and
probably get enough cards to claim WAS... almost worth trying as an
experiment :o) Also it must make enforcement & policing more difficult -
perhaps this is a good thing in the eyes of a certain portion of the ham
population ;o)
Those who QSL out of courtesy - there are many who appreciate your efforts
and I can see how the changes could cause inconvenience. However I suspect
anyone really serious about QSLs is still primarily in paper mode and will
be for sometime. eQSL is, at the end of the day, an "early implementer". No
doubt a consensus will be reached eventually. The amateur radio community is
no different to the world IT community - open standards etc. are a LONG time
coming and we're not there yet...
Cormac, EI4HQ
via buro, direct, eQSL.cc and any other way someone wants a QSL...
>From kr1g at hotmail.com Tue Apr 9 21:32:35 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
Message-ID: <F129N8zDo2QltZ4jN5u0000a31c@hotmail.com>
I think it is reasonable to expect LoTW to do this, although obviously not
in its first implementation.
There are all kinds of neat things eQSLing will make possible that we can
never think of.
Who thought the Internet would ever revolutionize shopping :)
73
Ted, KR1G
PS: BTW, once LoTW is up and running, I'm going for 5B+WAS - no way I have
the time to send out so many paper cards, even though I do love them.
>From: Maury Peiperl <MPeiperl@london.edu>
>To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
>
>
>
>
>
>Sylvan, that may be the single best idea I have ever heard in the DXCC /
>Awards area. You are talking about confirmed contacts; that is, contacts
>for which the League already has both logs and has compared them. Yes
>cards
>are nice and there is nothing like the look and feel of a good, rare one,
>but this doesn't do away with that; it merely supplements it with
>incontrovertible
>data provided by the amateurs themselves.
>
>
>
>I for one would even be willing to pay (within reason) for such a service.
> I could finally collect my 5BDXCC, which with two small kids and the
>other
>pressures of mid-life, I might otherwise never manage to get all the cards
>for.
>
>
>
>73
>
>Maury W3EF / G0UHK
>
>
>
>Ve5ZX wrote:
>
>
>
>
> All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
>contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
>award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
>
>
>
> ?required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests
>as well
>
>
>
> as more check logs! ... sylvan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>From TOMK5RC at aol.com Tue Apr 9 20:30:32 2002
From: TOMK5RC@aol.com (TOMK5RC@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Where are they Now?
Message-ID: <157.c070681.29e4d398@aol.com>
I am working on a presentation for the Visalia DX Convention called "Where
are they Now" featuring old and new photos of famous contesters and DXers. I
received a lot of input from this group the first time I posted a plea so I
am asking again. If you have any photos of contesters and DXers "then and
now" I would appreciate having email copies (jpeg preferred). I can scan in
regular photos, but have no facilities for converting 35 mm slides. If you
have any other interesting photos of contesters and DXers, please send those
also or direct me to web sites that contain photos. Please explain who is in
the photos!
I will make this presentation available for others to use after Visalia. It
will be in MS PowerPoint. My deadline is 4/20.
Thanks!
Tom, K5RC
Virginia City NV
>From k4bai at worldnet.att.net Tue Apr 9 23:21:02 2002
From: k4bai@worldnet.att.net (John T. Laney, III)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SWL Reports from DE0RAY on QSOs with K3WWP
Message-ID: <3CB3A18E.95C3AFF2@worldnet.att.net>
Hello all:
After receiving a large number of requests for SWL confirmations for
alleged QSOs between myself or others that I handle cards for, all QSOs
being with K3WWP, I have confirmed with John, K3WWP, that his logs are
available on his website. He had already suspected the possibility from
other reports, but it is clear now to me that DE0RAY is sending reports
of QSOs in contests made by K3WWP and available on his website. There
is no way that DE0RAY is able to follow K3WWP to three bands in one
contest for QSOs at widely spaced times with W4AN when John is running 5
watts with indoor antennas and is doing almost exclusively S&P. I
suggest that any such SWL cards be returned as unconfirmed due to the
availability of the logs on the internet.
73,
John, K4BAI/8P9HT/8P9Z.
>From W4EF at dellroy.com Tue Apr 9 21:11:36 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Mike)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <1.5.4.32.20020409124208.013c6500@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <09c201c1e03d$6d2717f0$6501a8c0@1800XP>
Wow, I am really having a hard time fathoming the pathology
of someone who would fake a QSL confirmation for 160 and
then submit it for award credit. Thats seriously twisted, but I
guess it shouldn't surprise me given what I hear going on in
pileups these days.
BTW, on a related note, would it be considered unethical
to alter a QSL to correct a mistake made by the QSL manager?
Case in point is a card I received which showed "18 MHz" in
the frequency block. The card I sent to the manager with the
"PSE QSL" request was for a 160 meter contact. My card
showed "1.8 MHz" in the frequency block. The QSL manager
presumeably verified that I was in the log since he sent me
a return QSL. I know I didn't work the station on 18 MHz
because I distinctly remember working the station on 160
meters at that time, and my log shows a match with everything
on his card except the frequency. My guess is that the manager
wasn't watching and put the "dot" on top of part of the "1" or
part of the "8". Is it ethical for me alter the card and add the dot
in, or should I spend an extra 2 bucks and request another card
to stay on the moral high ground? Would altering the card (to
correct it) inch me closer to the "twisted pathology" of the guy
who knowingly fabricates a confirmation for a QSO that he
knows didn't take place?
Sorry that this is a little of topic for CQ-Contest, but I couldn't
resist.
73 de Mike, W4EF................
---- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tippett" <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> WN3VAW wrote:
>
> >But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their
printed
> >eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
> >"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
> >securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
> >awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
> >check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real
breakthrough.
>
> I just uploaded ~37K of contest QSO's to eQSL for the past few
> years and see no major security problems with the way eQSL is implemented.
> In fact, it is actually more strict than I would be if I were answering
> QSL's directly where I would recognize problems like "wrong band", "wrong
> time" due to local time, "wrong date" for the contest, etc. eQSL does
> make it difficult to diagnose these problems but you can always reject
> the card and ask the sender to check his data again.
>
> I totally agree with Ron's statement above. I am personally aware
> of numerous attempts to submit false confirmations for 160 QSO's over the
> years and the ultimate test of these is not the quality of the printing,
> etc, but the QSO data which is in the log. If a QSO is in question, ARRL
> has on several occasions contacted the QSL manager to request actual log
> data to verify questionable QSL's. Making complete log data available
will
> make it VERY easy to catch erroneous confirmations and should improve the
> integrity of the system currently used at ARRL. In fact, I suspect the
> current system is not nearly as "clean" for most DXCC QSL's as it is for
> 160 confirmations which are checked at ARRL HQ with someone looking at
> a greyline map to weed out obvious problem QSO's. eQSL and LotW should
> make the system even better!
>
> I feel eQSL and LotW are major steps in the right direction for
> all of us. They will improve the integrity of awards and will especially
> make life easier for those of us making many contest QSO's who may not
> enjoy the QSL burden that comes with them.
>
> 73, Bill W4ZV
>
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Tue Apr 9 23:59:37 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] eQSL QSO Times
Message-ID: <000201c1e046$c4487520$d22bfa43@computer>
Quack
I had one eQsl rejection come thru that the only problem with the data for a
SS QSO was the time was off by 1 (ONE) minute. Now this is getting to the
redicilous, I don't need the confirmation but this one Q the guy sent me
log data and I replied.
Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cormac, EI4HQ" <ei4hq@qsl.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 19:35
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> Firstly thanks to all for answering the questions I posted in relation to
> this thread on Saturday.
>
> I emailed eQSL.cc and requested information on the "new" InBox situation.
> Specifically I asked them about the strictness of the time match. The
answer
> I consider to be perfectly reasonable is that an acceptale match is one
> where the times are within +/- 1 hour of each other. Sure if you're time
> zones are screwed up then you might have a problem but otherwise I can't
see
> how that aspect of things would be a cause of upset for anyone. Everyone
> does keep their logs (those that are required to...) in UTC... don't they?
>
> A few general comments;
>
> I'd consider how ARRL treats DXCC to be entirely up to them as its their
> award. Hence the introduction, arrangements & management of LotW and their
> acceptance/rejection or otherwise of eQSL.cc entirely up to them. If you
> don't like what they're doing then don't apply for the award - otherwise
> accept the rules as they make them...
>
> I'm quite frankly amazed that US stations are not legally required to keep
> logs anymore - no doubt it was debated high up and low down at the time
but
> seems nuts to me. How do I know that any US station I QSL has any idea
I've
> worked them - sounds like I could (feasibly) attempt random qsling and
> probably get enough cards to claim WAS... almost worth trying as an
> experiment :o) Also it must make enforcement & policing more difficult -
> perhaps this is a good thing in the eyes of a certain portion of the ham
> population ;o)
>
> Those who QSL out of courtesy - there are many who appreciate your efforts
> and I can see how the changes could cause inconvenience. However I suspect
> anyone really serious about QSLs is still primarily in paper mode and will
> be for sometime. eQSL is, at the end of the day, an "early implementer".
No
> doubt a consensus will be reached eventually. The amateur radio community
is
> no different to the world IT community - open standards etc. are a LONG
time
> coming and we're not there yet...
>
> Cormac, EI4HQ
> via buro, direct, eQSL.cc and any other way someone wants a QSL...
>
>
>
>
>
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>From w9sz at prairienet.org Wed Apr 10 09:31:26 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] eQSL QSO Times
In-Reply-To: <000201c1e046$c4487520$d22bfa43@computer>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204100824390.5885-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Rex Maner wrote:
> Quack
> I had one eQsl rejection come thru that the only problem with the data for a
> SS QSO was the time was off by 1 (ONE) minute. Now this is getting to the
> redicilous, I don't need the confirmation but this one Q the guy sent me
> log data and I replied.
> Rex
That's just stupid. It will probably contribute greatly to the downfall
of eQSL.
I'm sure that we, as contesters, don't always have our clocks synchronized
to the same exact second. And every DXpedition I've received QSL's from
sent me a card, even if the times were quite a bit off. Probably, if
you're sitting on an Antarctic rock, freezing your tuchis, you don't
particularly care how exact your clock is.
QST had a note (I think in the "How's DX?" column) a while back about the
"Martti Laine rule". If the callsign logged by the DX station was off by
one character (for instance, if I got logged as W0SZ or W9SG) and the
station logged did not submit a card in a reasonable time or did not
contest the QSO, I would get the card.
I wonder how that will fit in with eQSL and LoTW?
73, Zack W9SZ
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Wed Apr 10 14:52:21 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <09c201c1e03d$6d2717f0$6501a8c0@1800XP>
References: <1.5.4.32.20020409124208.013c6500@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020410134702.00c66700@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
Mike,
If you are going to use the card in question for DXCC,
or probably any other award purpose, then just realize
that if the ARRL catches it, not only will the card be
returned, you could be banned from DXCC altogether.
I sent a card for Don Search to look at and say yea
or nay one time because it was a station operating
portable from another country and it had been written in pencil.
He said it was ok so I sent it in with my next update.
Just be careful.
73, Tom K5II
At 20:11 04/09/02 -0700, Mike wrote:
>Wow, I am really having a hard time fathoming the pathology
>of someone who would fake a QSL confirmation for 160 and
>then submit it for award credit. Thats seriously twisted, but I
>guess it shouldn't surprise me given what I hear going on in
>pileups these days.
>
>BTW, on a related note, would it be considered unethical
>to alter a QSL to correct a mistake made by the QSL manager?
>Case in point is a card I received which showed "18 MHz" in
>the frequency block. The card I sent to the manager with the
>"PSE QSL" request was for a 160 meter contact. My card
>showed "1.8 MHz" in the frequency block. The QSL manager
>presumeably verified that I was in the log since he sent me
>a return QSL. I know I didn't work the station on 18 MHz
>because I distinctly remember working the station on 160
>meters at that time, and my log shows a match with everything
>on his card except the frequency. My guess is that the manager
>wasn't watching and put the "dot" on top of part of the "1" or
>part of the "8". Is it ethical for me alter the card and add the dot
>in, or should I spend an extra 2 bucks and request another card
>to stay on the moral high ground? Would altering the card (to
>correct it) inch me closer to the "twisted pathology" of the guy
>who knowingly fabricates a confirmation for a QSO that he
>knows didn't take place?
>
>Sorry that this is a little of topic for CQ-Contest, but I couldn't
>resist.
>
>73 de Mike, W4EF................
>
>---- Original Message -----
>From: "Bill Tippett" <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
>To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:42 AM
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> > WN3VAW wrote:
> >
> > >But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their
>printed
> > >eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
> > >"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
> > >securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
> > >awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
> > >check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real
>breakthrough.
> >
> > I just uploaded ~37K of contest QSO's to eQSL for the past few
> > years and see no major security problems with the way eQSL is implemented.
> > In fact, it is actually more strict than I would be if I were answering
> > QSL's directly where I would recognize problems like "wrong band", "wrong
> > time" due to local time, "wrong date" for the contest, etc. eQSL does
> > make it difficult to diagnose these problems but you can always reject
> > the card and ask the sender to check his data again.
> >
> > I totally agree with Ron's statement above. I am personally aware
> > of numerous attempts to submit false confirmations for 160 QSO's over the
> > years and the ultimate test of these is not the quality of the printing,
> > etc, but the QSO data which is in the log. If a QSO is in question, ARRL
> > has on several occasions contacted the QSL manager to request actual log
> > data to verify questionable QSL's. Making complete log data available
>will
> > make it VERY easy to catch erroneous confirmations and should improve the
> > integrity of the system currently used at ARRL. In fact, I suspect the
> > current system is not nearly as "clean" for most DXCC QSL's as it is for
> > 160 confirmations which are checked at ARRL HQ with someone looking at
> > a greyline map to weed out obvious problem QSO's. eQSL and LotW should
> > make the system even better!
> >
> > I feel eQSL and LotW are major steps in the right direction for
> > all of us. They will improve the integrity of awards and will especially
> > make life easier for those of us making many contest QSO's who may not
> > enjoy the QSL burden that comes with them.
> >
> > 73, Bill W4ZV
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
>
>
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 09:07:21 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Oklahoma QSO Party - Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101507.g3AF7LP13048@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Oklahoma QSO Party - Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 30, 2002
E-mail logs to: w5atv@cox.net
Mail logs to:
OKDX Assn
c/o David Ratliff, W5ATV
3215 W. 40th
Tulsa, OK 74107
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
One of the new benefits of the Web based scoring pages.
Easy generation of reports for smaller test.
Support for the smaller tests. Thanks go to Bruce, WA7BNM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsDig Qs hr Score Club
SOAB HP
K5YAA 217 609 0 20 92,365 OKDX
K4BAI 17 31 0 3,164 SECC
LY3BA 7 10 0 328 Kaunas University
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 09:11:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Virginia QSO Party - Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101511.g3AFBQF13059@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Virginia QSO Party - Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 15, 2002
E-mail logs to: ks4ii@arrl.net
Mail logs to:
VA QSO Party
Call Box 59
Sterling, VA 20167
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
I know this summary is overkill and I won't send out such in
the future. Just testing the process.
Thanks for your patience.
dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph Qs hr Score Club
M/M HP
K4JA(W3BP) 312 1370 23 406,477
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph Qs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
K4OAQ 300 0 11 72,428
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 09:51:09 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 SP DX Contest - All Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101551.g3AFp9H13092@localhost.localdomain>
2002 SP DX Contest - All Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 30, 2002
E-mail logs to: spdxc-logs@pzk.org.pl
Mail logs to:
Polski Zwiazek Krotkofalowcow
SPDX Contest Committee
PO Box 320
00-950 Warszawa
Poland
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
(Summary results are based on data reported via 3830 Submission Web Page)
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Call CW Qs Ph Qs Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
SP8YMM 690 890 216 24 780,192
RT9W 590 906 95 426,360 Bashkirian DX Club
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Call CW Qs Ph Qs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABCW HP
SN7N(SP7PS) 1013 0 192 24 361,728
N1RR 522 0 84 19 131,544 YCCC
VE3QAA 500 0 81 18 121,500 CAPITAL REGION DX CL
VE1OP 363 0 63 15 68,607
W4SAA 297 0 68 60,588 FCG
N6ZZ 165 0 53 26,235
N4GG 150 0 47 3 21,150 PVRC
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All SOABCW LP
NY1S 367 0 65 13 71,175
F6IRF 268 0 63 17 50,652 Yota Sawe DX group
AB2E 172 0 61 10 31,476 FRC
UA9FM 134 0 51 6 20,502
OM9ANL(F6FNL) 113 0 31 6 10,509
WN6K 50 0 17 2 2,550 SCCC
VE9DX 27 0 15 1,215
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All SOABMixed HP
UA9CDC 333 600 91 17 254,709 Ural Contest Group
RD4M(UA4LU) 403 552 77 19 220,605
K3WW 404 360 85 14 194,565 FRC
N2ED 433 329 80 14 178,080 FRC
G0DVJ/P 122 380 54 13 81,000
KM5G 244 73 57 54,207
N9RV 149 2 45 2 20,385 SMC
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All SOABMixed LP
SP2DWG 554 449 165 330,165
YL2PN 66 16 24 4 5,904 Latvian CC
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All SOABSSB HP
VE6POL(@VE6JY) 0 486 52 20 74,880
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All SOABSSB LP
VE3BUC 0 70 210 3 6,090
VE7AVV 0 78 22 11 5,148
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All SOSB/10SSB HP
VA3KA 0 223 16 8 10,704 Capital Region DX
W5PR 0 185 16 8,880 TDXS
VK2CZ 0 26 13 2 1,014
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All SOSB/20CW HP
K2SX 88 0 16 4,224 YCCC
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All SOSB/20CW LP
K9NW 8 0 6 1 144 MRRC
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All SOSB/20SSB LP
9A7P(9A6XX) 0 70 11 1 2,310
M0GTO 0 30 11 2 990
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All SOSB/80CW LP
LY2NXW 102 0 16 4,896
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All SOSB/80Mixed HP
LY2FY 52 110 31 7 14,973 KTU RC
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All SOSB/80Mixed LP
S53F 42 159 32 19,296
Operators:
RT9W RA9WR,RU9WX,RV9WA,RW9WW,RX9WR,UA9WFM
SP8YMM SP8GQU,SP8GWI,SP8LBK
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 10:14:02 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101614.g3AGE2213117@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
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Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCC
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
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Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCC
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
L5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
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Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
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Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
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Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 10:16:25 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101616.g3AGGPO13126@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From gm3woj at talk21.com Wed Apr 10 21:58:13 2002
From: gm3woj@talk21.com (Chris Tran GM3WOJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Internet packet feeds to other software
Message-ID: <003701c1e0ca$22ef2c80$668efea9@chris.tranbtinternet.com>
Hi Bob et al
I've been experimenting connecting NA to a DXCluster node
using Telnet - K1TTT's WinTelnetX 4.11
The configuration below works successfully for NA 10.54, so
I guess should be OK for NA 10.55, which I have not had time
to try yet. I'm using 2 PCs networked with NA, and a third PC
running WinTelnetX under W98. For simplicity the set-up
below uses COM1 on the Windows PC, and COM1 on one of the
networked NA PCs. The DXCluster node I use (GB7BIG) is
running AR-Cluster software.
---------------------------------------
Connect together the COM ports on the 2 PCs (1 x NA PC
and 1 x WinTelnetX PC) using a serial cable where pin2 at one end
connects to pin3 at the other end and vice versa.
-------------------------------------------
NA 10.54
Under 'Config', select f4 Serial Port Setup :
port adr baud device IRQ
COM1 3F8 9600 TNC 4
Select f5 Equipment Configuration :
TNC Type : LOCAL
----------------------------------------------
WinTelnetx 4.11
COM
Select - Add new ComPort :
Port COM1
Baud 9600
Bits 8
Parity None
Stop bits 1
Flow RTSCTS
Name COM
Is TNC False
Buffer 32000
Keep alive time 0
Port Data Type CT User
Dupes 0
CR/LF 1
TEL
Select - Add new Network - Connect :
Host name or IP marnet.dns2go.com
Port number 23
Name TEL
Is TNC False
Buffer 32000
Keep alive time 0
Port Data Type Cluster User
Mycall INET
Antiloop Px <
Dupes 0
CR/LF 2
Prompt call: Response GM3WOJ
Add - Routes COM <-> TEL 2-way
--------------------------------------------
Hope this helps anyone who's trying to do the
same thing - the advantage of this over DXTelnet
is that only 2 pieces of software are running.
73
Chris GM3WOJ
>From ei4hq at qsl.net Wed Apr 10 23:28:54 2002
From: ei4hq@qsl.net (Cormac, EI4HQ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] eQSL QSO Times
References: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204100824390.5885-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <001601c1e0d6$b876c860$0200a8c0@CormacGebruers>
I've received several [off-line] responses to my email about eQSL time
matching for QSO's - some quite entertaining and all in the right spirit I
hasten to add!
A number of them highlighted problems with the time matching - it certainly
doesn't appear that eQSL is giving the +/1 hr leeway that they suggests it
should be in several situations - whether its a glitch or something else is
afoot I don't yet know.
I'm going to mention this to them tonight in a follow up email (no specifics
just a general observation that people are having problems with it) and see
how they respond.
EI4HQ
>From ik2bcp at hamlan.org Wed Apr 10 23:41:09 2002
From: ik2bcp@hamlan.org (Guido Tedeschi, ik2bcp)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] An optocoupled isolator for Yaesu CAT
References: <000201c1e046$c4487520$d22bfa43@computer>
Message-ID: <00c301c1e0d0$2038fe70$20a3862c@Main>
Hello All,
I designed a simple optocoupled isolator for connecting the CAT
interface of our Yaesu FT1000MP MK5 to a PC.
The optocoupling avoids electrical and RF problems that you can have with a
simple RS232C cable in a contest environment.
If anyone is interested, go to http://www.hamlan.org/tech/tech.htm
Ciao and 73
Guido, ik2bcp / iu2r / ab9dg
>From ns3t at arrl.net Wed Apr 10 21:58:16 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
Message-ID: <003301c1e0f4$0a0dc080$0000a398@COMPUTER>
After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB contest over
the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
to those in charge of the WPX contest.
I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
More later.
Jamie NS3T
>From N6HC at aol.com Wed Apr 10 23:29:06 2002
From: N6HC@aol.com (N6HC@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL QSO Times
Message-ID: <18b.63b5eba.29e64ef2@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/10/02 1:59:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
w9sz@prairienet.org writes:
> QST had a note (I think in the "How's DX?" column) a while back about the
> "Martti Laine rule". If the callsign logged by the DX station was off by
> one character (for instance, if I got logged as W0SZ or W9SG) and the
> station logged did not submit a card in a reasonable time or did not
> contest the QSO, I would get the card.
>
I wish that the ZL9CI expedition followed the "Martti Laine rule". I got my
QSL card returned for a SSB contact because they had N5HC instead of N6HC in
their log at the exact time that I worked them! They refused to confirm my
contact! What a bunch of anal compulsives. I wonder if they ever got a QSL
from N5HC?
With best regards,
Arnie
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>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Wed Apr 10 23:32:36 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
Message-ID: <b4.9baaf49.29e64fc4@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/11/2002 2:09:06 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
ns3t@arrl.net writes:
> I again found evidence of
> disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
> to those in charge of the WPX contest.
>
Jamie,
I too am appaled at the thought of self-spotting or even disguised
self-spotting.
However, I am curious why you will be forwarding any findings of your
analysis to "those in charge of the WPX contest". Have you been designated
by the contest sponsors to do this analysis and report your findings, or are
you self appointed in this role? If you have been hired by the contest
sponsors to report your findings, I would like to see the criteria on which
you will base your judgement outlined in the contest rules. If you are self
appointed, I'd suggest you find something better to do. You are getting
yourself into a big rat trap, in my opinion!
What is the point of reporting any findings? Will those cited be
disqualified? And how will you really determine what is legitimate, but
frequently repeated spotting, during the contest vs. malicious self-spotting.
I for one do a lot of packet Assisted contest operating. It is my favorite
mode of contesting. Many times I will spot a DX station over and over when I
tune across them. I do this especially late in the contest when activity
waines for the DX station. I am alway hopeful that my spotting will bring on
those Q's on a band or mode previously missed by others. This is especially
true for Sweepstakes spotting.
Let me explain. Take a contest regular, such as HC8N. What is the harm in
spotting HC8N many times over on each band as you tune across him? The
intent is do drive traffic to him. Of course!
I'd appreciate your comments.
73, Geo...
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
<A HREF="http://www.consultpr.com/";>www.consultPR.com</A>
<A HREF="http://www.fs9000.com";>www.fs9000.com</A>
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>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 11 06:58:07 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXSpider DX Cluster manual
Message-ID:
<20020411055808.46.c002-h012.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
I have posted the manual (in PDF) for the DXSpider
DX Cluster software on the YCCC website (under menu
item: Resources)
http://www.yccc.org/Resources/DXCluster/dxspider.pdf
(Thanks to Ken, K1EA, for the file)
73 Mike N2MG
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From f5nly at free.fr Thu Apr 11 18:07:11 2002
From: f5nly@free.fr (F5NLY)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
References: <003301c1e0f4$0a0dc080$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Message-ID: <002201c1e16a$8f956480$915e933e@default>
Wow, interesting to see some sounds of "auto-spotting"... a point read in
WPX rules.
73 Lee.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jamie Dupree
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:58 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB contest over
the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
to those in charge of the WPX contest.
I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
More later.
Jamie NS3T
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>From widelitz at gte.net Thu Apr 11 09:03:07 2002
From: widelitz@gte.net (Ken Widelitz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team
U.A. E.
In-Reply-To: <01c1e14c$ddb6e6c0$LocalHost@default>
Message-ID: <BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>
So now you are selecting a station designer and letting him bring in his
hired guns to operate for him? Does he get to bring his towers and antennas
with him?
Its your stadium, your football, your rules, but this one makes no sense.
73, Ken, K6LA
>From david.e.burger at au.pwcglobal.com Fri Apr 12 12:02:31 2002
From: david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com (david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
Message-ID: <OFF871A305.4C75F0AD-ONCA256B99.0004E8D0@aap.pwcinternal.com>
I have never been able to use spotting in any contests, as generally my
contest station is out of range of convention carrier networks, but was
amazed to see I had been spotted over 20 times - and by people I do not
know - bar one.
I understand there is an Assisted Class in many contests, and they can use
the spottingnetwork and whatever quality (or quantity) that may bring.
The real issue is self spotting as mentioned in the rules - so if you saw a
VK8AA spot by VK2CZ then that would be grounds for disqualification as I
hold both calls.
Leave it to the WPX organisers to do proper data mining and come up with
their decisions.
David VK8AA / VK2CZ
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>From artinian at siol.net Fri Apr 12 09:34:35 2002
From: artinian@siol.net (Marijan Miletic, S56A)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Crown Plaza Dayton 17. 5. for KH1 crew
Message-ID: <009d01c1e1fc$e2cf5010$0100a8c0@S56A>
Any spare room available at Dayton Crown Plaza for KH1 returning crew led by
YT1AD?
Direct answers to artinian@siol.net would be appreciated until April 19th.
73 de Mario, S56A, N1YU
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>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Fri Apr 12 15:29:15 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ES OPEN on April 20th!
References: <BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>
Message-ID: <00a001c1e215$47457750$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Hallo dear friends and contesters,
I would like to invite you to participate in ES OPEN HF CHAMPIONSHIPS that will
take place on next Saturday, April 20th, 0500 to 0859 UTC. It is an interesting
short HF Contest on Saturday morning on 80 and 40 meters and there will be many
ES stations in the air! The best places will be awarded with beautiful trophies
from ERAU. You can also easily fulfil the requirements for ESTONIA AWARD. We
hope very much for active participation also from Western and Southern Europe
and even from other continents - You are very welcome!
NEW "COMPUTER FRIENDLY" RULES AND 2001 RESULTS are now available from:
http://www.erau.ee/modules.php?op=modload&name=Info&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=68&newlang=eng
You can also find TR LOG CONFIGURATION FILES FOR ES OPEN from the web site
above!!! TR LOG CAN BE EASILY USED FOR LOGGING NOW!!! Other logging programs
fit also well with new rules!
You can download TR Files directly from:
http://www.erau.ee/esopen.zip
Rules are new, more interesting and very easy now:
Contest takes place on 80 and 40m at the same time and in both modes.
There are 4 one hour periods: 0500 - 0559, 0600 - 0659, 0700 - 0759, 0800 -
0859 UTC.
You can work each station two times in one period regardless of mode - once on
40m and once on 80m. Thus 8 times in total during the contest.
Non ES stations can work only ES stations.
Each CW QSO gives 2 points and each SSB QSO gives 1 point.
Multipliers are ES region prefixes on each band and mode - thus maximum 40 for
A, D and F classes and 20 for B and C classes.
Report: RST + QSO number
Logs should be sent to esopen@erau.ee
Please check ERAU web site above for complete Rules and results from previous
years!
Please forward that info also to other fellow hams in your region who are
interested in contesting!
Hope very much to see you all in ES OPEN!
73
Tonno
ES5TV
ERAU HF MANAGER
es5tv@erau.ee
www.erau.ee
p.s. Please contact me for any questions and comments or if you want me to send
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>From k3mm at comcast.net Fri Apr 12 11:20:35 2002
From: k3mm@comcast.net (k3mm@comcast.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 -
Team U.A. E.
References: <BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>
Message-ID: <00f201c1e22d$3683d660$6400a8c0@Home>
Sure it does....money talks...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Widelitz" <widelitz@gte.net>
To: <ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi>; "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:03 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team
U.A. E.
> So now you are selecting a station designer and letting him bring in his
> hired guns to operate for him? Does he get to bring his towers and
antennas
> with him?
>
> Its your stadium, your football, your rules, but this one makes no sense.
>
> 73, Ken, K6LA
>
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>From geoiii at kkn.net Fri Apr 12 10:42:27 2002
From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III - K5TR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team
U.A. E.
In-Reply-To: <BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>; from Ken Widelitz
on Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 08:03:07AM -0700
References: <01c1e14c$ddb6e6c0$LocalHost@default>
<BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>
Message-ID: <20020412094227.F15721@loja.kkn.net>
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 08:03:07AM -0700, Ken Widelitz wrote:
> So now you are selecting a station designer and letting him bring in his
> hired guns to operate for him? Does he get to bring his towers and antennas
> with him?
>
> Its your stadium, your football, your rules, but this one makes no sense.
The team selection criteria was spelled out by the WRTC 2002
folks on June 5th 2001.
You can find it here:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/teams1.htm
This team would appear to be:
"The Organizer's Wild Card Team" as listed under the Special Teams section.
I dont see a problem with this - they are only doing what they planned to do.
Besides N6ZZ and K1ZM are compenent operators.
--
George Fremin III - K5TR
geoiii@kkn.net
http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Fri Apr 12 12:19:59 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest spots/this weekends antenna work
Message-ID: <01d801c1e235$82fdcde0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Like K5KG I find myself using packet during several contests and whenever I
tune past a station as he signs I type in his callsign...if it is a dupe
rather than just F11 I hit Alt-F3 (think that is it) to spot that station to
the cluster...mebbe the next guy will not stop there as it pops up on his
band map! I know I will spot the same guy many times during a contest...but
I do not keep mental note of this - that is what the machines are for.
This is not a slam on your observations...I find them interesting and the
thought of self spotting makes me sick...kind of like the unqiue principal
though - it should only be used as a POSSIBLE indicator of foul play... if a
guy gets spotted a lot more power to him as long as he ain't doin' it...he
is a "beacon" which ultimately your winners should be - never knew anyone
who S&P'd their way to #1!
In case you were getting ready to tune up for the next major contest - it is
the Florida QSO Party on April 27 & 28 - tweak your antennas for max gain
into Florida - we will be waiting for you! Follow the mobile teams as they
amass QSOs criss-crossing Florida.
15 days until FQP 2K2 - Florida fixed stations and mobiles please check into
the website and notify NS4W of your plans to activate which county(ies).
Check out the website at:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp/
Most of the counties have turned from Green to Orange - looks like more
clean sweeps will be available this year! Handsome certificates and plaques
are awarded each year - check out last years results and the rules and
records for the FQP at the above site - DEFINITELY READ THE EXCELLENT
WRITEUP BY K1TO, contest log crunching don't get any better!
FQP 2K2 - thanks to YOU we're running 'em!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
Florida Contest Group - sponsors of the Florida QSO Party
>From ddddd at attbi.com Fri Apr 12 10:06:09 2002
From: ddddd@attbi.com (Dave Tucker)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
Message-ID: <B8DC5400.3792%ddddd@attbi.com>
Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like to set
the record
straight for one and all
I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX whenever I was
in S&P
mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many were dx,
many were
domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O numerous times
is in
no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can only spot a
station
once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say, that's my
favorite band.
NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact was in
friendly
competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East and West
coast
stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed because I
didn't happen
to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I appreciated
the spots
that others posted.
Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need this crap
in our hobby.
Dave Tucker KA6BIM
Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
"After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
contest over
the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
to those in charge of the WPX contest.
I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
More later.
Jamie NS3T"
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Fri Apr 12 13:53:40 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] self-spotting
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEAJDFAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
Folks,
Self-spotting is just one more 'difficult to administer' situation,
where there is opportunity for deception, and no readily apparent
solution.
I would recommend keeping it simple.
If you are single op....you shouldn't be assisted, period.
If you're on an expedition, your home call shouldn't be calling
you out, as it suggests you're assisted by the folks at home.
If you are either m/m, m/s, or SOA, then you're assisted, anyway.
A socially accepted norm for self spotting ought to be developed..
say once or twice an hour, for discussion purposes.
The possibility of someone cloaking themselves as you, and spotting
you just to disqualify you, exists. There was recent evidence of it
coming out of EU on the CQDXirc site. How to protect against it?
Then comes the really interesting part....all of your club buddies
decide to 'help' you by calling you out early and often, so your
expedition can set a new record. More difficult to track and
administer...and possibly done out of ignorance or genuine good
will. The solution? Raise the penalty, so nobody can fail to be
aware of it. Castration might be on the extreme side....
and it would increase the risk of having a flock of dx coming back to
an increasing population of "yl's". So maybe the contest organizers
should contemplate enabling a "protest" scenario, as is done in
sailboat racing. DQ the entire club, AND expedition, if there is
even the suspicion of collusive behavior. The burden of detection is
placed on the contestants. File protest at the end of the race.
Sponsors get to be the judges.
There are significant differences in prop times among packet systems.
So it's possible for three or four guys to spot HC8N around the same
time, while being unaware of the OTHER guys who spotted. And not all
packet systems are linked during contests. Makes the problem even
knottier.
The alternative? No rule. No limit. Packet is...whatever the
bandwidth will support. But SO still can't use it. That's easiest to
administer.
Jim, N2EA
>From ad1c at yahoo.com Fri Apr 12 12:16:24 2002
From: ad1c@yahoo.com (Jim Reisert)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest spots/this weekends antenna work
In-Reply-To: <01d801c1e235$82fdcde0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20020412181624.42134.qmail@web13602.mail.yahoo.com>
--- Jim White <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> Like K5KG I find myself using packet during several contests and whenever I
> tune past a station as he signs I type in his callsign...if it is a dupe
> rather than just F11 I hit Alt-F3 (think that is it) to spot that station to
> the cluster...mebbe the next guy will not stop there as it pops up on his
> band map! I know I will spot the same guy many times during a contest...but
> I do not keep mental note of this - that is what the machines are for.
The "machines" also have a band map which will tell you if the station has been
spotted recently. I don't spot stations that are still in my band map. This
keeps the number of redundant spots down.
73 - Jim AD1C
=====
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USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
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>From k6iii at juno.com Fri Apr 12 19:18:01 2002
From: k6iii@juno.com (k6iii@juno.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
Message-ID: <20020412.181803.-354851.2.k6iii@juno.com>
Good solid and reasonable reply, Dave. I saw many of your spots and
appreciated them. I too spotted many friends so our NCCC guys could find
them; many more than once. I don't see the point ns3t is trying to make.
Certainly self-spotting is contrary to the rules, but spotting other
stations, no mater how many times is not against the rules. I wonder
where ns3t was observing these spots; perhaps some telnet node somewhere,
and what is his evidence (and criteria) for determing a self-spot has
occurred. Rather annoying to make this accusations without supporting
evidence.
de Jerry/k6iii
San Jose, CA
On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:06:09 -0800 Dave Tucker <ddddd@attbi.com> writes:
Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like
to set the record straight for one and all
I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX
whenever I was in S&P mode. I was very active and probably sent over
350 spots. Many were dx, many were domestic. Some more than once. That
I happened to spot NR6O numerous times is in no way a violation of any
rule. Where does it state that you can only spot a station once? <<<
snip >>>
Dave Tucker KA6BIM
>
>
>
> Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
>
> "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> contest over
> the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with
> the
> reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
> disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be
> forwarded
> to those in charge of the WPX contest.
>
> I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that
> frequently
> spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say
> that
> they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest;
> some
> of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
>
> MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
>
> 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
>
> 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
>
> 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
>
> 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
>
> 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
>
> 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
>
> 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
>
> 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
>
> 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
>
> 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
>
>
> More later.
>
> Jamie NS3T"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> NCCC@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/nccc
>
>From ki9a at aol.com Fri Apr 12 15:50:42 2002
From: ki9a@aol.com (ki9a@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots-getting old!
Message-ID: <2DC7111B.73CBF469.00003FFE@aol.com>
C'mon guys. this tread is getting real old!
Here it is:
1) self spotting is illegal. Don't do it.
2) spotting others is OK. Do it. There are no limits. Deal with it.
I have recently started using packet during contests, it makes it a bit more
intersting for us little pistols. Yeah, damn right I spot my buddies. Show me
in the rules where I can't. I also spot guys who I don't even know, but I do
know they are out there busting their butts during any given weekend. Then,
there are the rare mults that I spot.
If someone has enough time to go over THOUSANDS of WPX spots, then post them
according to who spotted who, they really,really need to get a life!
If you don't like packet, don't use it. Period.
73-Chuck KI9A
>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 12 12:23:30 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PACKET AND SPOTTING
Message-ID: <02b401c1e257$87f81860$5a2afea9@sbcglobal.net>
I read with great amusement of all the foibles the packet-eers have thrust
upon themselves with accusations of "self spotting", etc etc, ad nauseum.
Be careful of what you ask for. You just might get it.
Jim Neiger
N6TJ
>From ns3t at arrl.net Fri Apr 12 18:06:52 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: NS3T's wild accusation
Message-ID: <001e01c1e265$f89e9040$5f20fccd@jvpcb01>
Dave -
Thanks for your note.
I am making no accusation of any wrongdoing by KA6BIM. I'm sorry you
see it differently. I merely ran some numbers. I don't believe
you did anything wrong at all.
I'm just searching for people who are abusing the system with
multiple spots of other stations.
Hope to work you sometime down the line.
73s
Jamie NS3T
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>
> To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:06 PM
> Subject: NS3T's wild accusation
>
>
> > Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like to
> set
> > the record
> > straight for one and all
> >
> > I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX whenever I
> was
> > in S&P
> > mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many were
dx,
> > many were
> > domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O numerous
> times
> > is in
> > no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can only
spot
> a
> > station
> > once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say, that's my
> > favorite band.
> > NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact was in
> > friendly
> > competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East and
West
> > coast
> > stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed because
I
> > didn't happen
> > to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I
> appreciated
> > the spots
> > that others posted.
> >
> > Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need this
crap
> > in our hobby.
> >
> > Dave Tucker KA6BIM
> >
> >
> >
> > Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
> >
> > "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> > contest over
> > the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
> > reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
> > disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
> > to those in charge of the WPX contest.
> >
> > I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
> > spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
> > they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
> > of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
> >
> > MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
> >
> > 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
> >
> > 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
> >
> > 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
> >
> > 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
> >
> > 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
> >
> > 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
> >
> > 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
> >
> > 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
> >
> > 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> > PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
> >
> > 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
> >
> >
> > More later.
> >
> > Jamie NS3T"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Fri Apr 12 22:13:38 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots-getting old!
In-Reply-To: <2DC7111B.73CBF469.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004701c1e266$eaec97c0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Its not the fact that we don't like packet, its that we don't like
obvious attempts to get around a rule in some contests. Especially not
when there is relatively easy to track evidence from ip addresses used
to make the spots. It just takes some time to sort it all out. Database
tools make it easy to find odd patterns, the key is to sort out the
abuses from the coincidences before taking action.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of ki9a@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 18:51
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots-getting old!
>
> C'mon guys. this tread is getting real old!
>
> Here it is:
> 1) self spotting is illegal. Don't do it.
> 2) spotting others is OK. Do it. There are no limits. Deal with it.
>
> I have recently started using packet during contests, it makes it a
bit
> more intersting for us little pistols. Yeah, damn right I spot my
buddies.
> Show me in the rules where I can't. I also spot guys who I don't even
> know, but I do know they are out there busting their butts during any
> given weekend. Then, there are the rare mults that I spot.
>
> If someone has enough time to go over THOUSANDS of WPX spots, then
post
> them according to who spotted who, they really,really need to get a
life!
>
> If you don't like packet, don't use it. Period.
>
> 73-Chuck KI9A
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Fri Apr 12 18:00:06 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 -
Team U.A. E.
Message-ID: <00ae01c1e27e$2ccdb540$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
> Besides N6ZZ and K1ZM are competent operators.
I'd be making an understatement if I seconded that
opinion. In spades. But, then, Ken is aware of this also.
I think Ken's post would come under the category of
humor for the masses on the reflector. Of course, a
lot of my own very serious posts are sometimes seen
as humor here.
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Fremin III - K5TR" <geoiii@kkn.net>
To: "Ken Widelitz" <widelitz@gte.net>
Cc: <ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi>; "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 09:42
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 -
Team U.A. E.
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 08:03:07AM -0700, Ken Widelitz wrote:
> > So now you are selecting a station designer and letting him bring in his
> > hired guns to operate for him? Does he get to bring his towers and
antennas
> > with him?
> >
> > Its your stadium, your football, your rules, but this one makes no
sense.
>
> The team selection criteria was spelled out by the WRTC 2002
> folks on June 5th 2001.
>
> You can find it here:
>
> http://www.wrtc2002.org/teams1.htm
>
>
> This team would appear to be:
>
> "The Organizer's Wild Card Team" as listed under the Special Teams
section.
>
>
> I dont see a problem with this - they are only doing what they planned to
do.
>
> Besides N6ZZ and K1ZM are compenent operators.
>
>
> --
> George Fremin III - K5TR
> geoiii@kkn.net
> http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>
>
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>From k0hb at earthlink.net Sat Apr 13 01:50:58 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?iso-8859-1?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: NS3T's wild accusation
References: <001e01c1e265$f89e9040$5f20fccd@jvpcb01>
Message-ID: <00ff01c1e27c$e6176700$3c11be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Dupree" <ns3t@arrl.net>
>
> I'm just searching for people who are abusing the system with
> multiple spots of other stations.
>
>From the French:
Un chasseur sachant chasser chasse sans son chien.
(A hunter who knows how to hunt hunts without his dog)
>From k2av at contesting.com Fri Apr 12 22:01:14 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: NS3T's wild accusation
References: <001e01c1e265$f89e9040$5f20fccd@jvpcb01>
Message-ID: <00ad01c1e286$b5a74d60$0500a8c0@swift>
How does one define "abuse" of the system? Who owns the rules? Who are
the enlightened, privileged ones who gets to define "abuse"? Just the
contest committees, who necessarily have that in their job
description.
Self-spotting is forbidden in contest rules, as is use of spots by
unassisted entry categories. Aside from that?
Nothing down that I know of sets any numeric limits for spotting or
any such. Nor is there anything that says you can only spot stations
in which you have no personal interest.
All the rest is just a personal take (horrors, an attempt to impose
one's own personal druthers on the masses?).
Try carefully defining "abuse" and make the case for the definition,
if you can. A contest committee might be listening, then again, maybe
not.
73, Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Dupree" <ns3t@arrl.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 5:06 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: NS3T's wild accusation
>
> Dave -
>
> Thanks for your note.
>
> I am making no accusation of any wrongdoing by KA6BIM. I'm sorry
you
> see it differently. I merely ran some numbers. I don't believe
> you did anything wrong at all.
>
> I'm just searching for people who are abusing the system with
> multiple spots of other stations.
>
> Hope to work you sometime down the line.
>
> 73s
> Jamie NS3T
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>
> > To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> > Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:06 PM
> > Subject: NS3T's wild accusation
> >
> >
> > > Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would
like to
> > set
> > > the record
> > > straight for one and all
> > >
> > > I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX
whenever I
> > was
> > > in S&P
> > > mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many
were
> dx,
> > > many were
> > > domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O
numerous
> > times
> > > is in
> > > no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can
only
> spot
> > a
> > > station
> > > once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say,
that's my
> > > favorite band.
> > > NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact
was in
> > > friendly
> > > competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East
and
> West
> > > coast
> > > stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed
because
> I
> > > didn't happen
> > > to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I
> > appreciated
> > > the spots
> > > that others posted.
> > >
> > > Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need
this
> crap
> > > in our hobby.
> > >
> > > Dave Tucker KA6BIM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
> > >
> > > "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> > > contest over
> > > the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work
with the
> > > reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence
of
> > > disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be
forwarded
> > > to those in charge of the WPX contest.
> > >
> > > I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that
frequently
> > > spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people
say that
> > > they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour
contest; some
> > > of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
> > >
> > > MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
> > >
> > > 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
> > >
> > > 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
> > >
> > > 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
> > >
> > > 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
> > >
> > > 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
> > >
> > > 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
> > >
> > > 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
> > >
> > > 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
> > >
> > > 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> > > PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
> > >
> > > 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
> > >
> > >
> > > More later.
> > >
> > > Jamie NS3T"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 13 04:32:06 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
References: <B8DC5400.3792%ddddd@attbi.com>
Message-ID: <3CB798A6.F41D6D60@harborside.com>
Dave Tucker wrote:
>
> I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX >whenever I was
> in S&P mode.
Hi Dave
Did you ask these stations if they wanted to be spotted?? I've
read posts where lots of DX stations don't want to be spotted
during a contest. Slows the rate down considerably. Maybe we
can have a new category MSBASDAC--Most Spots By A Station During
A Contest.
Tom W7WHY
>From w3gh at kiski.net Sat Apr 13 00:35:34 2002
From: w3gh@kiski.net (Robert W. King)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Room needed at Dayton
Message-ID: <000f01c1e29c$460e4380$1dbfc3d1@oemcomputer>
Anyone have an extra room at Crowne Plaza
or willing to share expenses? May 16-17-18.
Bob W3GH
>From vk4uc at ozemail.com.au Sat Apr 13 15:15:57 2002
From: vk4uc@ozemail.com.au (John Cashen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release
#18 - Team U.A. E.
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020413140329.00ab2760@mail.ozemail.com.au>
I don't know if anyone has noticed, but the "Continent" of Oceania is not
represented in the World Championships. If a station entry in the Oceania
could have been allowed to use"hired guns" perhaps our part of the world
would have been included too. We have been hosting top contesters for CQWW
and other contests for many years now.
BTW Oceania was represented in the past two WRTCs.
73
John VK4UC
>From va3uz at rac.ca Sat Apr 13 11:24:00 2002
From: va3uz@rac.ca (VA3UZ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] My WPX CW UBN file
Message-ID: <007801c1e2f6$e8a8e6e0$0201a8c0@yuri>
Bad or non verifiable CALL SIGNS excluded from the score:
QSO: 21032 CW 2001-05-26 1530 VA3UZ 599 1047 VE3RKF 599
126
QSO: 14044 CW 2001-05-27 0315 VA3UZ 599 1976 K0IAL 599
194
Ironically, just heard K0IAL on 20 m SSB. Mike from Iowa....
One more funny thing:
QSOs found, by cross checking, to have unmatchable serial numbers not
excluded from the score:
QSO: 21032 CW 2001-05-26 1751 VA3UZ 599 1271 N6NF 599
27
..............................................Serial number should be: 1
< SNIP >
QSO: 14025 CW 2001-05-27 2241 VA3UZ 599 2887 N6NF 599
267
..............................................Serial number should be: 1
Does N6NF have all the serial numbers "1" in his LOG? :-)) Just curios.
73 Yuri VA3UZ
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Sat Apr 13 11:37:52 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spotting statistics
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEBGDFAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
The problem with data...any data...is understanding it. NS3T's doesn't
take into account the TOTAL NUMBER OF SPOTS FROM EACH STATION. It may
be that what is reported represents only a small percentage of total spots
for any given station, and is not only not material statistically, it might
not be memorable during the heat of a contest.
Take an extreme case....Suppose a m/m has a mult hunting/spotting position.
All it's doing is feeding the station network with mults for band S&P
follow-up,
and dumping spots on the net. It might spot...10-15 an hour, for 48 hours.
That's 480 to 720 spots in a contest. Suppose there are different ops in that
chair. What is the chance they'll randomly spot HC8N 4 times on 10 meters?
When 10 is hot, I'd say pretty fair. Chances of 10-12 spots happening are
high, in fact.
What does it mean? Absolutely nothing, statistically.
Let's take the top poster on Jamie's list....IR3P. He spotted FM5GU 30 times,
half of which were on 20 meters. Is there something wrong with that? Suppose
IR3P has buddies who NEED FM, and he was making sure they knew where he was.
We don't know whether that was 100% of IR3P's total spots, or 1%; but
it was probably in the minority. It averages less than one an hour...and less
than one every TWO hours on 20 meters. Is that a lot? Doesn't seem so.
Here's another factor:
Most EU spots tend to go to DXSummit, and are visible worldwide. Some US clubs
still close their network to outside spots...and vice versa....so you might
have
more aggressive spotting within a club than is visible globally. Where's the
fairness factor there?
Again, I urge caution in reaching judgement on this issue. If you stipulate
that self-spotting is a proscribed behavior, then the only remaining question
is "what's excessive spotting of other guys?".
My response would be, "Who cares?". Why discourage spotting at all? The more
you spot, the more you drain resource that could be producing Q's for your own
station. If you overdo it, the packet bandwidth starts to backlog. It's a
self-limiting behavior, both ways.
Let's talk about something else.
Jim Jarvis, N2EA
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Apr 13 13:42:50 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <01df01c1e30a$5d503440$03010a0a@office1>
Tom,
My experience was exactly the opposite -- I had a lot of DX stations (I
stopped counting at 30) ask me to put them on the cluster. I had 2 or 3
that seemed perturbed when I declined -- one S5 station called me a, hmmm,
compared me to a portion of the human anatomy that rarely see much sunshine
(and maybe I am sometimes, aren't we all, but that still does not strike me
as an appropriate transmission during the contest!).
Personally, I found NS3T's statistics interesting but inconclusive. Since
we don't know who actually generated the spots, proving self-spotting
without further details would be difficult. Be so as it may, while I think
a rule clarification regarding soliciting for or self-spotting may be worth
considering for most contests, I don't know what more can be done.
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Osborne <w7why@harborside.com>
Reply-To: w7why@harborside.com
Organization: Amateur Radio W7WHY
To: CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
Dave Tucker wrote:
>
> I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX
>whenever I was in S&P mode.
Hi Dave
Did you ask these stations if they wanted to be spotted?? I've
read posts where lots of DX stations don't want to be spotted
during a contest. Slows the rate down considerably. Maybe we
can have a new category MSBASDAC--Most Spots By A Station During
A Contest.
Tom W7WHY
>From yt3t at absolutok.net Sat Apr 13 21:00:48 2002
From: yt3t@absolutok.net (Kele YT3T)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <001601c1e315$24df0ae0$9ce45d50@pentium>
Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
U.A.E. guest ops...
For an average YU ham, you are ALL very wealthy, and from our point of view,
the sport of contesting is "money talks' indeed. To let you get an idea, an
average YU ham has to spend his whole 2-year income to be able to set a
station consisting of: one modern transceiver, one kilowatt amplifier, one
rotor, one modest tower, one tribander and minimum of required cables and
wires. I did NOT say 2-year savings, but 2-year salaries. And just a few
months more to get a modest computer.
I do not think that A61AJ have spent his 2+year income to set his station,
just as many of you who maintain super stations.
So, the real money consumption in contesting activities happens in my
neighbourhood, and I am desperate, since they all expect me to run this
race. Oh well, I hope some of you will print your QSL cards at my printshop
:-)
73
Kele
YT3T, YU1AO
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sat Apr 13 19:19:39 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] station availability
Message-ID: <004901c1e317$c66a1b00$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
My station is available for most of the spring/summer contests. I am
booked for WPX CW, NE QSO Party, CQ-M, and maybe IARU. If you are
interested in trying out any of the other summer contests please contact
me directly. This is a chance to try out big antennas, different radios
and amps, bring friends and do a multi-op, etc.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From n4zr at contesting.com Sat Apr 13 15:43:22 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
In-Reply-To: <001601c1e315$24df0ae0$9ce45d50@pentium>
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020413144147.0532caa0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 08:00 PM 4/13/02 +0200, Kele YT3T wrote:
>Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
>U.A.E. guest ops...
I have been searching in vain for the press release that started all this
-- The WRTC web site does not have press release #18. Could it possibly be
a hoax? If not, could someone either send me the text directly or point me
to a URL?
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From japancorporateresearch at compuserve.com Sat Apr 13 16:07:20 2002
From: japancorporateresearch@compuserve.com (Hal Offutt)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Upcoming Contests for Mobiles
Message-ID: <200204131507_MC3-F9B8-FA62@compuserve.com>
Hi,
Most of you probably read the great article by Jim K8MR on mobile
contesting in the March/April 2002 issue of NCJ.
Jim pointed out the similarity between the mobile category in state QSO
parties and the WRTC: operators in both events compete from very similar
stations and under very similar conditions. He explained the great fun and
challenge of mobile contesting: laying out a route before the contest,
operating from a vehicle while enjoying the countryside scenery, good
pileups and rates, and real competition. He also noted how much fun it can
be for non-mobile stations to follow the mobiles around and work them in
each new county they enter.
Mobile contesting has become increasingly popular during the past few
years. I think this is mainly due to the involvement of contest clubs in
the resurrection of the FQP, the OQP, the GAQP and the MQP and their
success in getting a lot of first class ops out on the roads. Another
enabling factor is the availability of so many compact 12V HF rigs at
reasonable prices. More and more state QSO parties now have achieved what
I think is the minimum number of active mobiles (six to eight) necessary to
make an interesting event for all participants. I expect to see even more
mobiles out there in the future as people discover just how much fun this
form of contesting is.
Four of the best events for mobile contesting are coming up over the next
three weeks. If Jim's article stimulated your interest with his article,
you will have ample opportunity coming up to experience this brand of
contesting activity, either from your home QTH or from your own vehicle.
Brief information on these events is shown below.
First, a couple of notes:
1. These events are rapidly becoming true *CONTESTS*, not simply low-key
county hunting events. The counties are the means, not the end. Most of
the mobile operators in the events I detail below (with one exception) are
not especially interested in county hunting. If you do chase counties,
though, there's no better forum.
2. Some of the top ops in the country are getting out there on the road in
these events. Take a look at the results from previous years and at the
list of guys planning to operate this year and you'll see what I mean.
3. Although these contests are all centered in the US, activity from
outside the US is permitted and very welcome.
4. There are pileups every time a mobile changes counties. That's around
160 pileups during a 12 hour contest where 8 mobiles each change counties
20 times. This is a great opportunity to practice your pileup-busting
technique. How often can you be the first station into the mobile's log?
5. Plenty of cool wallpaper and plaques available.
Upcoming Contests with Major Mobile Activity
1. Michigan QSO Party, sponsored by the Mad River Radio Club, April 20-21
A 12 hour event from 1600Z to 0400Z Saturday (noon to midnight EDST). Nine
mobiles were active last year, with the winner making 924 contacts. SSB
and CW but emphasis on CW. Mobiles handed out nearly 5,000 contacts in
all. Attracts some of the top ops in the Midwest. Most MI counties get
activated.
Rules and results: http://mrrc.net
2. Florida QSO Party, sponsored by the Florida Contest Group, April 27-28
A 20 hour event in two ten-hour time periods: Sat 1600Z to 0159Z (noon to
10 PM EDST) and Sun 1200Z to 2159Z (8 AM to 6 PM EDST). SSB and CW, good
activity on both modes. 10 mobiles were active last year and there were
403 total log submissions. All FL counties were active. High mobile QSO
count was 1207.
Rules and results: http://www.qsl.net/fcg
3. New England QSO Party, sponsored by YCCC and several local clubs, May
4-5
A 20 hour event in two time periods: Sat 2000Z to 0300Z (4 PM to 11 PM
EDST) and Sun 1100Z to 2400Z (7 AM to 8 PM EDST).
Both SSB and CW. This is the first running of a new event that brings the
six small New England states under one QSO party umbrella. Promises to
turn some sleepy NE state QSO parties into a real contest. 8 mobiles have
already announced plans to be active, and the sponsors are aiming to get
all NE counties on.
Rules: http://neqp.org
4. County Hunters' Contest CW, sponsored by the Mobile Amateur Radio
Awards Club, May 4-5
A 48 hour event from 0000Z Saturday to 2400Z Sunday (8 PM Friday night to 8
PM Sunday night EDST). CW only. No significant activity during the night.
Fixed stations can work each other as well as the mobiles but mobiles
count 15 points against 1 point for fixed station contacts, so activity is
focussed on the mobiles. This is the only event of the year where mobiles
in different states can contact and compete with each other. 15 mobiles
were active in 2001, with the winner's QSO total at 1905 and the high
multiplier at 340. The overlap with the NEQP this year should make for
even more activity.
The Indiana QSO Party is also scheduled for Saturday, May 4 from 1300Z to
0500Z (9 AM to 1 AM) so you can work the NEQP, the CHC, and the INQP at the
same time. Info at www.qsl.net/kj9d/inqp/rules.html.
73 & GL,
Hal W1NN
______________________________________
Japan Corporate Research
Research and Consulting Services on Japan
www.japancorporateresearch.com
>From K3EST at cqww.com Sat Apr 13 13:54:08 2002
From: K3EST@cqww.com (Bob Cox)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB reports
Message-ID: <007c01c1e325$1452a460$ae2b5142@rockne>
Dear Fellow Contesters,
The 2001 CQ WW SSB UBN and NIL reports are now available for you at
http://www.cqww.com . Just find your call and click. Enter your password which
everyone who submitted an email log received. If you submitted only a paper
log your call will not appear on the list.
In a few weeks we will place a list of calls + categories + clubs on the
cqww.com web site for you to check. An announcement will be made.
The CQ WW will require the cabrillo format for submissions starting with the
2002 contest. All the non-cabrillo 2001 SSB logs on the CQ WW website have been
converted to the carbillo format by the CQ WW Committee. The cabrillo format is
available with the major contest logging programs.
Although we are sure that you are familiar with the reasons why cabrillo is
important, here is the main reason: It allows the easy assembly of all the data
necessary for compiling the results by the contest sponsor. Without cabrillo
the CQ WW Committee must deal with many, many logging formats....which takes
many, now unneeded, hundreds of hours.
Approximately 70 % of the logs received for the 2001 CQ WW SSB test were
already in the cabrillo format. This was great! Thanks.
73
Bob, K3EST
CQ WW Director
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>From bagno at mai.ru Sun Apr 14 01:43:12 2002
From: bagno@mai.ru (Dmitri Bagno (RW3FO))
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
Message-ID: <007001c1e32c$e0ca3920$0100007f@localhost>
Two nice certificates came today for EuSprint 2001 --
thank you Paolo, Dave, Bernhard & Karel!
--Dmitri (RW3FO)
>From ad6e at inreach.com Sat Apr 13 00:31:43 2002
From: ad6e@inreach.com (Alan Maenchen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
References: <B8DC5400.3792%ddddd@attbi.com>
Message-ID: <002301c1e27b$aa6fe840$0e0bfea9@am>
Thanks Dave for bringing this to light.
Its one of the reasons I've un-subscribed to CQ-Contest
If NS3T doesn't want to see all those spots he should turn it off.
So far as "self spotting" goes, he should correlate the spotter to be one of
the operators at said spotted station. Looks like his list is simply a list
of frequently spotted stations .. not self spotted. However, even that may
not "work" since an operator can legally spot a M/M station while he is
operating somewhere else, then go work from that M/M later (or earlier). No
problem for non-ARRL contests.
Al AD6E (also, part-time op at KX7M)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>
To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 17:06
Subject: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
> Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like to
set
> the record
> straight for one and all
>
> I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX whenever I
was
> in S&P
> mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many were dx,
> many were
> domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O numerous
times
> is in
> no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can only spot
a
> station
> once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say, that's my
> favorite band.
> NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact was in
> friendly
> competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East and West
> coast
> stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed because I
> didn't happen
> to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I
appreciated
> the spots
> that others posted.
>
> Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need this crap
> in our hobby.
>
> Dave Tucker KA6BIM
>
>
>
> Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
>
> "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> contest over
> the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
> reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
> disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
> to those in charge of the WPX contest.
>
> I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
> spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
> they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
> of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
>
> MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
>
> 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
>
> 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
>
> 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
>
> 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
>
> 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
>
> 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
>
> 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
>
> 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
>
> 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
>
> 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
>
>
> More later.
>
> Jamie NS3T"
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>From ns3t at arrl.net Sat Apr 13 20:44:21 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: spotting statistics
Message-ID: <002e01c1e345$35adb670$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Jim -
Thanks for your note.
I should have been more clear in my original posting. I opened the
discussion about self spotting, but then posted data on something else.
That was probably a mistake and has resulted in a bit of tempest. :-)
So here is the background that some have asked for...and I
am making NO judgment about these spots. I simply thought
the raw numbers of spots were interesting, that's why I posted them
in the first place.
The reason I got into this is that during the ARRL contest, someone
spotted under my call. A quick review showed that's happening more
than we would probably like to admit...but that is not what these
numbers are about. These are raw numbers of what stations
spotted another station the most - that's all.
---
IR3P made 30 spots of FM5GU - IR3P made no other spots
in the contest.
S51QN made 28 spots of S58M - S51QN made only one
other spot in the contest.
CE4CVN made 28 spots of CB4A - CE4VCN made a total of
38 spots in the WPX.
OK1WWJ made 21 spots of OL5T - OK1WWJ made only
two other contest spots that weekend.
RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times - RK3QWA made
112 spots in the WPX.
N2QER spotted NY6DX 13 times - N2QER made 33 total spots.
UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - UR7IJQ made only
one other WPX contest spot.
PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - PY2SBY made
a total of 28 spots in the contest.
KA6BIM spotted NR6O 10 times - as KA6BIM has pointed
out, he made many more overall spots, a total of 436,
making this a very small minority.
KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - KC5JSO made a
total of 19 WPX spots.
So there we go. I am making no wild accusations here -
I'm just running numbers and looking for a discussion.
I'm not trying to discourage spotting or cast it in a negative
light. I still plan to talk further about self spots. But that
is later, not in the above numbers.
Jamie NS3T
>From w5xd at writelog.com Sun Apr 14 01:37:15 2002
From: w5xd@writelog.com (W. Wright, W5XD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots. who needs 'em?
Message-ID: <000d01c1e34c$870dc210$6400000a@W5XD>
Am I the only person on the planet that thinks running packet in a contest
REDUCES the enjoyment of the weekend? If the guys that are complaining at
each other about abusing packet would all just quit using it, they might
discover you enjoy the sense of accomplishment that comes with finding your
own multipliers.
As a software vendor I get requests that I can paraphrase as "please improve
the aim of your software for shooting fish in a barrel--there were 100 fish
in that barrel last weekend and I could have shot more than 90 of them if
your software were better". I do attempt to "improve the aim" (should I?),
but one the great mysteries of life is why folks don't try to go find fish
that haven't been put the the barrel yet?
Wayne, W5XD
>From otterstad at enter.vg Sun Apr 14 05:42:38 2002
From: otterstad@enter.vg (otterstad@enter.vg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
In-Reply-To: <001601c1e315$24df0ae0$9ce45d50@pentium>
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
<001601c1e315$24df0ae0$9ce45d50@pentium>
Message-ID: <20020414024238.552C111712@mail1.vg.eunet.no>
Kele YT3T <yt3t@absolutok.net>:
> Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to
the selection of
> U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> For an average YU ham, you are ALL very wealthy, and
from our point of
> view,
> the sport of contesting is "money talks' indeed. To
let you get an idea, an
> average YU ham has to spend his whole 2-year income
to be able to set a
> station consisting of: one modern transceiver, one
kilowatt amplifier, one
> rotor, one modest tower, one tribander and minimum of
required cables and
> wires. I did NOT say 2-year savings, but 2-year
salaries. And just a few
> months more to get a modest computer.
Thanks for putting this into a different perspective ,
Kele. We need to be reminded from time to time how
priviledged we are !
73 Rag W7/LA5HE
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Sun Apr 14 04:57:29 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
In-Reply-To: <200204140115.g3E1FUAl013265@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020414033001.00a98700@pop.pacific.net.hk>
Hmmm... I thought we were tuned to cq-contest. ;^)
Cheers to NS3T for his subsequent clarification of intention. I beginning
to think
I was the only one who could sense it was such to begin with.
Obviously, neither KA6BIM nor NR6O (that's N6RO, right?) are to be confused
with some of the dodgy spotters out there. And the raw data NS3T presented
does show how the good guys can look like those that might not be so good.
Let's not get carried away here or take things out of context,
either. Remember,
NS3T - like myself - found he was making spots that he didn't. Some dodgy
stuff is going on out there. I sense some here have forgotten that or may not
have seen the start of the thread & others seem not to follow much of it at all
from what they have contributed to the discussion.
IMHO, sometimes it's hard to even bring stuff up here for level-headed
reasonable
discussion of the sort I would expect from radiosporting enthusiasts & some of
the reaction seen on this thread is why. I'll now retire to the roof to
read the
Sunday papers & contemplate the reaction that may result from this post as no
doubt somebody will not read it in the friendly tone in which it was written.
No frame intended - sorry my poor Engrish!
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From kg6ok at pacbell.net Sun Apr 14 06:12:51 2002
From: kg6ok@pacbell.net (Herb Rosenberg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Win a Complete Amateur Radio Station?
Message-ID: <3CB90FD3.A315556@pacbell.net>
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>From trogo at telegraphy.com Sun Apr 14 00:52:28 2002
From: trogo@telegraphy.com (Tony Rogozinski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
<5.1.0.14.0.20020413144147.0532caa0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <01c401c1e380$f7f174c0$012cfea9@ph.cox.net>
Give me a break for Goodness Sakes! The sponsors/organizers of this event -
in
writing - have reserved the right to invite a team of their choosing - and
in this
case we know who it is. So quit bitching and accept the fact that they made
a
decision regardless of how or why it was done. You guys sound like a bunch
of babies! Get your shit together and concentrate on the business at hand
which
is to win the contest once it takes place. Interestingly I don't see any
derogatory
postings by the guys who usually do win.
Tony N7BG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
> At 08:00 PM 4/13/02 +0200, Kele YT3T wrote:
> >Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
> >U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> I have been searching in vain for the press release that started all this
> -- The WRTC web site does not have press release #18. Could it possibly
be
> a hoax? If not, could someone either send me the text directly or point
me
> to a URL?
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sun Apr 14 13:25:30 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB reports
In-Reply-To: <007c01c1e325$1452a460$ae2b5142@rockne>
Message-ID: <002d01c1e3af$77f06630$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Is there someplace were a summary of ubn statistics is published? Best,
worst, average, type breakdowns??
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From k7sv at va.prestige.net Sun Apr 14 10:19:37 2002
From: k7sv@va.prestige.net (Larry Schimelpfenig)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
References: <200204140115.g3E1F1Al013256@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000801c1e3b7$07bafda0$1e2e4144@frbgva.adelphia.net>
Is it increasing age that is causing me to have trouble understanding folks
these days?
Pete Smith (N4ZR) asked for a copy or URL of WRTC 2002 release 18. I assume
Pete, like myself, would like to read it to better understand what the
thread is all about. Having no luck in finding 18, the best I can do is
form conclusions based on the fragments that have appeared in the thread.
This morning Tony Rogozinski (N7BG) responds to Pete in derogatory terms
that have nothing to do with Pete's request.
My two long term loves in ham radio have been contesting and dxing. The lack
of discipline and apathy of a large percentage of the dx crowd has reduced
my primary interest in the hobby to contesting. Perhaps it's in my best
interest to stop reading the reflectors and just get on and work the
contests I enjoy.
73 de Larry K7SV
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> 1. My WPX CW UBN file (VA3UZ)
> 2. spotting statistics (jljarvis)
> 3. Re: NS3T's wild accusation (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
> 4. Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.) (Kele YT3T)
> 5. station availability (David Robbins)
> 6. Re: Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.) (Pete Smith)
> 7. Upcoming Contests for Mobiles (Hal Offutt)
> 8. SSB reports (Bob Cox)
> 9. Re: Eu Sprint 2002 (Dmitri Bagno (RW3FO))
> 10. Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation (Alan Maenchen)
> 11. Re: spotting statistics (Jamie Dupree)
> 12. spots. who needs 'em? (W. Wright, W5XD)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> From: "VA3UZ" <va3uz@rac.ca>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] My WPX CW UBN file
>
> Bad or non verifiable CALL SIGNS excluded from the score:
>
> QSO: 21032 CW 2001-05-26 1530 VA3UZ 599 1047 VE3RKF 599
> 126
> QSO: 14044 CW 2001-05-27 0315 VA3UZ 599 1976 K0IAL 599
> 194
>
> Ironically, just heard K0IAL on 20 m SSB. Mike from Iowa....
>
> One more funny thing:
>
> QSOs found, by cross checking, to have unmatchable serial numbers not
> excluded from the score:
>
> QSO: 21032 CW 2001-05-26 1751 VA3UZ 599 1271 N6NF
599
> 27
> ..............................................Serial number should be:
1
>
>
> < SNIP >
>
>
> QSO: 14025 CW 2001-05-27 2241 VA3UZ 599 2887 N6NF 599
> 267
> ..............................................Serial number should be:
1
>
> Does N6NF have all the serial numbers "1" in his LOG? :-)) Just curios.
>
>
> 73 Yuri VA3UZ
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> From: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] spotting statistics
>
>
>
> The problem with data...any data...is understanding it. NS3T's doesn't
> take into account the TOTAL NUMBER OF SPOTS FROM EACH STATION. It may
> be that what is reported represents only a small percentage of total spots
> for any given station, and is not only not material statistically, it
might
> not be memorable during the heat of a contest.
>
> Take an extreme case....Suppose a m/m has a mult hunting/spotting
position.
> All it's doing is feeding the station network with mults for band S&P
follow-up,
> and dumping spots on the net. It might spot...10-15 an hour, for 48
hours.
> That's 480 to 720 spots in a contest. Suppose there are different ops in
that
> chair. What is the chance they'll randomly spot HC8N 4 times on 10
meters?
> When 10 is hot, I'd say pretty fair. Chances of 10-12 spots happening are
> high, in fact.
>
> What does it mean? Absolutely nothing, statistically.
>
> Let's take the top poster on Jamie's list....IR3P. He spotted FM5GU 30
times,
> half of which were on 20 meters. Is there something wrong with that?
Suppose
> IR3P has buddies who NEED FM, and he was making sure they knew where he
was.
> We don't know whether that was 100% of IR3P's total spots, or 1%; but
> it was probably in the minority. It averages less than one an hour...and
less
> than one every TWO hours on 20 meters. Is that a lot? Doesn't seem so.
>
> Here's another factor:
> Most EU spots tend to go to DXSummit, and are visible worldwide. Some US
clubs
> still close their network to outside spots...and vice versa....so you
might have
> more aggressive spotting within a club than is visible globally. Where's
the
> fairness factor there?
>
> Again, I urge caution in reaching judgement on this issue. If you
stipulate
> that self-spotting is a proscribed behavior, then the only remaining
question
> is "what's excessive spotting of other guys?".
>
> My response would be, "Who cares?". Why discourage spotting at all? The
more
> you spot, the more you drain resource that could be producing Q's for your
own
> station. If you overdo it, the packet bandwidth starts to backlog. It's
a
> self-limiting behavior, both ways.
>
> Let's talk about something else.
>
> Jim Jarvis, N2EA
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
>
> Tom,
>
> My experience was exactly the opposite -- I had a lot of DX stations (I
> stopped counting at 30) ask me to put them on the cluster. I had 2 or 3
> that seemed perturbed when I declined -- one S5 station called me a, hmmm,
> compared me to a portion of the human anatomy that rarely see much
sunshine
> (and maybe I am sometimes, aren't we all, but that still does not strike
me
> as an appropriate transmission during the contest!).
>
> Personally, I found NS3T's statistics interesting but inconclusive. Since
> we don't know who actually generated the spots, proving self-spotting
> without further details would be difficult. Be so as it may, while I
think
> a rule clarification regarding soliciting for or self-spotting may be
worth
> considering for most contests, I don't know what more can be done.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "There's No Crying in Baseball!"
> -- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Osborne <w7why@harborside.com>
> Reply-To: w7why@harborside.com
> Organization: Amateur Radio W7WHY
> To: CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
>
> Dave Tucker wrote:
> >
> > I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX
> >whenever I was in S&P mode.
>
> Hi Dave
>
> Did you ask these stations if they wanted to be spotted?? I've
> read posts where lots of DX stations don't want to be spotted
> during a contest. Slows the rate down considerably. Maybe we
> can have a new category MSBASDAC--Most Spots By A Station During
> A Contest.
> Tom W7WHY
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> From: "Kele YT3T" <yt3t@absolutok.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
>
> Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
> U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> For an average YU ham, you are ALL very wealthy, and from our point of
view,
> the sport of contesting is "money talks' indeed. To let you get an idea,
an
> average YU ham has to spend his whole 2-year income to be able to set a
> station consisting of: one modern transceiver, one kilowatt amplifier, one
> rotor, one modest tower, one tribander and minimum of required cables and
> wires. I did NOT say 2-year savings, but 2-year salaries. And just a few
> months more to get a modest computer.
>
> I do not think that A61AJ have spent his 2+year income to set his station,
> just as many of you who maintain super stations.
>
> So, the real money consumption in contesting activities happens in my
> neighbourhood, and I am desperate, since they all expect me to run this
> race. Oh well, I hope some of you will print your QSL cards at my
printshop
> :-)
>
> 73
> Kele
> YT3T, YU1AO
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> From: "David Robbins" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
> To: <yccc@yccc.org>, "reflector cq-contest" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] station availability
>
> My station is available for most of the spring/summer contests. I am
> booked for WPX CW, NE QSO Party, CQ-M, and maybe IARU. If you are
> interested in trying out any of the other summer contests please contact
> me directly. This is a chance to try out big antennas, different radios
> and amps, bring friends and do a multi-op, etc.
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> From: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
>
> At 08:00 PM 4/13/02 +0200, Kele YT3T wrote:
> >Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
> >U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> I have been searching in vain for the press release that started all this
> -- The WRTC web site does not have press release #18. Could it possibly
be
> a hoax? If not, could someone either send me the text directly or point
me
> to a URL?
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> From: Hal Offutt <japancorporateresearch@compuserve.com>
> To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Upcoming Contests for Mobiles
>
> Hi,
>
> Most of you probably read the great article by Jim K8MR on mobile
> contesting in the March/April 2002 issue of NCJ.
>
> Jim pointed out the similarity between the mobile category in state QSO
> parties and the WRTC: operators in both events compete from very similar
> stations and under very similar conditions. He explained the great fun
and
> challenge of mobile contesting: laying out a route before the contest,
> operating from a vehicle while enjoying the countryside scenery, good
> pileups and rates, and real competition. He also noted how much fun it
can
> be for non-mobile stations to follow the mobiles around and work them in
> each new county they enter.
>
> Mobile contesting has become increasingly popular during the past few
> years. I think this is mainly due to the involvement of contest clubs in
> the resurrection of the FQP, the OQP, the GAQP and the MQP and their
> success in getting a lot of first class ops out on the roads. Another
> enabling factor is the availability of so many compact 12V HF rigs at
> reasonable prices. More and more state QSO parties now have achieved what
> I think is the minimum number of active mobiles (six to eight) necessary
to
> make an interesting event for all participants. I expect to see even more
> mobiles out there in the future as people discover just how much fun this
> form of contesting is.
>
> Four of the best events for mobile contesting are coming up over the next
> three weeks. If Jim's article stimulated your interest with his article,
> you will have ample opportunity coming up to experience this brand of
> contesting activity, either from your home QTH or from your own vehicle.
> Brief information on these events is shown below.
>
> First, a couple of notes:
>
> 1. These events are rapidly becoming true *CONTESTS*, not simply low-key
> county hunting events. The counties are the means, not the end. Most of
> the mobile operators in the events I detail below (with one exception) are
> not especially interested in county hunting. If you do chase counties,
> though, there's no better forum.
>
> 2. Some of the top ops in the country are getting out there on the road
in
> these events. Take a look at the results from previous years and at the
> list of guys planning to operate this year and you'll see what I mean.
>
>
> 3. Although these contests are all centered in the US, activity from
> outside the US is permitted and very welcome.
>
> 4. There are pileups every time a mobile changes counties. That's around
> 160 pileups during a 12 hour contest where 8 mobiles each change counties
> 20 times. This is a great opportunity to practice your pileup-busting
> technique. How often can you be the first station into the mobile's log?
>
> 5. Plenty of cool wallpaper and plaques available.
>
>
>
> Upcoming Contests with Major Mobile Activity
>
>
> 1. Michigan QSO Party, sponsored by the Mad River Radio Club, April 20-21
>
> A 12 hour event from 1600Z to 0400Z Saturday (noon to midnight EDST).
Nine
> mobiles were active last year, with the winner making 924 contacts. SSB
> and CW but emphasis on CW. Mobiles handed out nearly 5,000 contacts in
> all. Attracts some of the top ops in the Midwest. Most MI counties get
> activated.
>
> Rules and results: http://mrrc.net
>
>
>
> 2. Florida QSO Party, sponsored by the Florida Contest Group, April
27-28
>
>
> A 20 hour event in two ten-hour time periods: Sat 1600Z to 0159Z (noon to
> 10 PM EDST) and Sun 1200Z to 2159Z (8 AM to 6 PM EDST). SSB and CW, good
> activity on both modes. 10 mobiles were active last year and there were
> 403 total log submissions. All FL counties were active. High mobile QSO
> count was 1207.
>
> Rules and results: http://www.qsl.net/fcg
>
>
>
> 3. New England QSO Party, sponsored by YCCC and several local clubs, May
> 4-5
>
> A 20 hour event in two time periods: Sat 2000Z to 0300Z (4 PM to 11 PM
> EDST) and Sun 1100Z to 2400Z (7 AM to 8 PM EDST).
> Both SSB and CW. This is the first running of a new event that brings the
> six small New England states under one QSO party umbrella. Promises to
> turn some sleepy NE state QSO parties into a real contest. 8 mobiles have
> already announced plans to be active, and the sponsors are aiming to get
> all NE counties on.
>
> Rules: http://neqp.org
>
>
>
> 4. County Hunters' Contest CW, sponsored by the Mobile Amateur Radio
> Awards Club, May 4-5
>
> A 48 hour event from 0000Z Saturday to 2400Z Sunday (8 PM Friday night to
8
> PM Sunday night EDST). CW only. No significant activity during the
night.
> Fixed stations can work each other as well as the mobiles but mobiles
> count 15 points against 1 point for fixed station contacts, so activity is
> focussed on the mobiles. This is the only event of the year where mobiles
> in different states can contact and compete with each other. 15 mobiles
> were active in 2001, with the winner's QSO total at 1905 and the high
> multiplier at 340. The overlap with the NEQP this year should make for
> even more activity.
>
>
> The Indiana QSO Party is also scheduled for Saturday, May 4 from 1300Z to
> 0500Z (9 AM to 1 AM) so you can work the NEQP, the CHC, and the INQP at
the
> same time. Info at www.qsl.net/kj9d/inqp/rules.html.
>
>
> 73 & GL,
>
> Hal W1NN
>
>
> ______________________________________
> Japan Corporate Research
> Research and Consulting Services on Japan
> www.japancorporateresearch.com
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> From: "Bob Cox" <K3EST@cqww.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB reports
>
>
> Dear Fellow Contesters,
>
> The 2001 CQ WW SSB UBN and NIL reports are now available for you at =
> http://www.cqww.com . Just find your call and click. Enter your password =
> which everyone who submitted an email log received. If you submitted =
> only a paper log your call will not appear on the list.
>
> In a few weeks we will place a list of calls + categories + clubs on the =
> cqww.com web site for you to check. An announcement will be made.
>
> The CQ WW will require the cabrillo format for submissions starting with =
> the 2002 contest. All the non-cabrillo 2001 SSB logs on the CQ WW =
> website have been converted to the carbillo format by the CQ WW =
> Committee. The cabrillo format is available with the major contest =
> logging programs.=20
>
> Although we are sure that you are familiar with the reasons why cabrillo =
> is important, here is the main reason: It allows the easy assembly of =
> all the data necessary for compiling the results by the contest sponsor. =
> Without cabrillo the CQ WW Committee must deal with many, many logging =
> formats....which takes many, now unneeded, hundreds of hours.
>
> Approximately 70 % of the logs received for the 2001 CQ WW SSB test were =
> already in the cabrillo format. This was great! Thanks.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K3EST
> CQ WW Director
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 9
> From: "Dmitri Bagno (RW3FO)" <bagno@mai.ru>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
>
> Two nice certificates came today for EuSprint 2001 --
> thank you Paolo, Dave, Bernhard & Karel!
>
> --Dmitri (RW3FO)
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> From: "Alan Maenchen" <ad6e@inreach.com>
> To: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>, <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
>
> Thanks Dave for bringing this to light.
> Its one of the reasons I've un-subscribed to CQ-Contest
>
> If NS3T doesn't want to see all those spots he should turn it off.
>
> So far as "self spotting" goes, he should correlate the spotter to be one
of
> the operators at said spotted station. Looks like his list is simply a
list
> of frequently spotted stations .. not self spotted. However, even that may
> not "work" since an operator can legally spot a M/M station while he is
> operating somewhere else, then go work from that M/M later (or earlier).
No
> problem for non-ARRL contests.
>
> Al AD6E (also, part-time op at KX7M)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>
> To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 17:06
> Subject: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
>
>
> > Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like to
> set
> > the record
> > straight for one and all
> >
> > I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX whenever I
> was
> > in S&P
> > mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many were
dx,
> > many were
> > domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O numerous
> times
> > is in
> > no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can only
spot
> a
> > station
> > once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say, that's my
> > favorite band.
> > NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact was in
> > friendly
> > competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East and
West
> > coast
> > stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed because
I
> > didn't happen
> > to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I
> appreciated
> > the spots
> > that others posted.
> >
> > Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need this
crap
> > in our hobby.
> >
> > Dave Tucker KA6BIM
> >
> >
> >
> > Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
> >
> > "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> > contest over
> > the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
> > reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
> > disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
> > to those in charge of the WPX contest.
> >
> > I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
> > spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
> > they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
> > of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
> >
> > MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
> >
> > 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
> >
> > 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
> >
> > 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
> >
> > 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
> >
> > 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
> >
> > 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
> >
> > 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
> >
> > 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
> >
> > 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> > PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
> >
> > 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
> >
> >
> > More later.
> >
> > Jamie NS3T"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > NCCC mailing list
> > NCCC@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/nccc
> >
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> From: "Jamie Dupree" <ns3t@arrl.net>
> To: <jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
> Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: spotting statistics
>
> Jim -
>
> Thanks for your note.
>
> I should have been more clear in my original posting. I opened the
> discussion about self spotting, but then posted data on something else.
> That was probably a mistake and has resulted in a bit of tempest. :-)
>
> So here is the background that some have asked for...and I
> am making NO judgment about these spots. I simply thought
> the raw numbers of spots were interesting, that's why I posted them
> in the first place.
>
> The reason I got into this is that during the ARRL contest, someone
> spotted under my call. A quick review showed that's happening more
> than we would probably like to admit...but that is not what these
> numbers are about. These are raw numbers of what stations
> spotted another station the most - that's all.
> ---
>
> IR3P made 30 spots of FM5GU - IR3P made no other spots
> in the contest.
>
> S51QN made 28 spots of S58M - S51QN made only one
> other spot in the contest.
>
> CE4CVN made 28 spots of CB4A - CE4VCN made a total of
> 38 spots in the WPX.
>
> OK1WWJ made 21 spots of OL5T - OK1WWJ made only
> two other contest spots that weekend.
>
> RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times - RK3QWA made
> 112 spots in the WPX.
>
> N2QER spotted NY6DX 13 times - N2QER made 33 total spots.
>
> UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - UR7IJQ made only
> one other WPX contest spot.
>
> PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - PY2SBY made
> a total of 28 spots in the contest.
>
> KA6BIM spotted NR6O 10 times - as KA6BIM has pointed
> out, he made many more overall spots, a total of 436,
> making this a very small minority.
>
> KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - KC5JSO made a
> total of 19 WPX spots.
>
> So there we go. I am making no wild accusations here -
> I'm just running numbers and looking for a discussion.
> I'm not trying to discourage spotting or cast it in a negative
> light. I still plan to talk further about self spots. But that
> is later, not in the above numbers.
>
> Jamie NS3T
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> Reply-To: <w5xd@writelog.com>
> From: "W. Wright, W5XD" <w5xd@writelog.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots. who needs 'em?
>
> Am I the only person on the planet that thinks running packet in a contest
> REDUCES the enjoyment of the weekend? If the guys that are complaining at
> each other about abusing packet would all just quit using it, they might
> discover you enjoy the sense of accomplishment that comes with finding
your
> own multipliers.
>
> As a software vendor I get requests that I can paraphrase as "please
improve
> the aim of your software for shooting fish in a barrel--there were 100
fish
> in that barrel last weekend and I could have shot more than 90 of them if
> your software were better". I do attempt to "improve the aim" (should I?),
> but one the great mysteries of life is why folks don't try to go find fish
> that haven't been put the the barrel yet?
>
> Wayne, W5XD
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
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>
>
> End of CQ-Contest Digest
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sun Apr 14 15:59:03 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
Message-ID: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
I hate to reinvent the wheel, don't have a lot of time to homebrew or
put together kits, and don't know much about operating so2r besides what
I have seen from a few guest operators. But I am ready to buy the stuff
needed to make a better so2r setup option on my m/m station. I am
looking to buy as much as possible, preferably including cables already
made up.
The equipment would be:
2x ft-1000mp
heil proset headset
ct or na logging software
dvp board for voice keying
aea morsemachine or other external keyer(s)
each band has its own coax coming in to the table
What I am looking for are suggestions for 2 or 3 things:
1. a headset/keyer/mic/dvp switch with cables
2. a 6 antenna to 2 radio antenna switch with band decoder for each
radio and control cables.
3. a 6 band 2 radio bandpass filter switch for between the radios and
amps, or possibly two separate switched bandpass filters with cables and
decoder.
Could one decoder run both the antenna switch and bandpass filter
switch?
What is available off the shelf to do this?
What are the pro's and con's of different models that are available, if
there are choices?
Is it better to run 1 computer or 2?? Why??
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Sun Apr 14 12:22:23 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dodgy spotting
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHAECHDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
NS3T's second cut at data clearly shows that David, WA6BIM, wasn't doing
anything wrong. (Jamie's FIRST cut at data, by the way, did NOT
say that anyone necessarily did anything untoward...he made NO
ACCUSATIONS. Some folks were sensitive.)
What we know, from Brett-VR2BG, from Jamie-NS3T, and from others on
CQDXirc, is that not all spots come from the station whose callsign
is indicated as the author. If we were to take the top 3 on Jamie's
list, I bet we'd find that at least ONE of them didn't make those spots.
This is going to be hard to administrate, and hard to monitor. The
potential for cloaked self-spotting exists, or for 'team' behavior,
where a friend cloaks--or doesn't--and spots his expedition buddy.
I am not convinced that extensive spotting actually produces a real
advantage. Serious contesters will have you on their band map, which
probably dupe-filters. Casual players may not be on packet at all.
There may be a few who chase DX, and chase spots...but they're not an
infinite supply of Q's...and duplicate spotting may only yield a very
small additional benefit.
On the down side....those spots may attract QRP stations, who will
destroy your rate, as you try to pull them out!
Simple, relaxed rules are best. Anything more can't be enforced.
Jim Jarvis, N2EA
Essex Vermont
ps: (VR2BG...you were pounding in, here in VT on 15 this morning, Brett!)
>From w6rw at earthlink.net Sun Apr 14 11:47:41 2002
From: w6rw@earthlink.net (Michael S. Mitchell, W6RW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB reports
References: <002d01c1e3af$77f06630$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <3CB9C0BC.CCB3BDCF@earthlink.net>
They used to publish it in the CQ Contest magazine before if became a
dinasour!
David Robbins wrote:
> Is there someplace were a summary of ubn statistics is published? Best,
> worst, average, type breakdowns??
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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>From W4EF at dellroy.com Sun Apr 14 13:08:27 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Mike)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
<5.1.0.14.0.20020413144147.0532caa0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <137601c1e3e7$c2266050$6501a8c0@1800XP>
Pete,
I thought this was an April Fools joke, but apparently it
is not (its dated April 11, 2002):
http://www.wrtc2002.org/news18.htm
I don't know what all the fuss is about, 2 more good
operators competing against a bunch of other good
operators. I don't see how Ali's financial resources
will give Jeff and Phil any advantage during the
competition except that maybe he can by them
each a pair silk underwear or treat them to a pre-
competition massage to keep them relaxed
and focused?
73 de Mike, W4EF (aka Elmer Fudd)..........................
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
> At 08:00 PM 4/13/02 +0200, Kele YT3T wrote:
> >Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
> >U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> I have been searching in vain for the press release that started all this
> -- The WRTC web site does not have press release #18. Could it possibly
be
> a hoax? If not, could someone either send me the text directly or point
me
> to a URL?
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Sun Apr 14 16:44:57 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204141528140.23160-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Can't believe the whining about this team. Forget that both ops are world
class. Forget that they announced this team well in advance.
The OH's are putting on this event. It is THEIR contest. If they want to
invite novice ops from OH0 who are sons of the biggest donor... its OK
with me. They are doing all the work and coming up with all the money
required to pull it off. To publically criticize them for any of their
choices seems to me to be in very poor taste.
As for money talks.... I will put my spot up for the highest bidder.
Proceeds to benefit the event. Any talkers? eerrrr takers?
73
Bill Fisher
>From dick.green at valley.net Sun Apr 14 17:39:27 2002
From: dick.green@valley.net (Dick Green)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy (long)
In-Reply-To: <F114eX2GOC9GBDYnV7j000166f5@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICELFCHAA.dick.green@valley.net>
During the past couple of years, I've been reluctant to comment on
electronic QSL issues because I was working on the LOTW design. I felt that
it would be inappropriate to say anything until the design and project had
been approved by the ARRL Board and announced to the membership. Also, I'm
not a League employee or spokesperson, and didn't want anyone to think I was
stating ARRL policy.
But now that LOTW has been announced and my part of the project is over, I
think it's OK for me to comment on some of the issues that have been raised
as a result of eQSL's change of policy. Please bear in mind that I'm
speaking for me, not ARRL, and that the LOTW specifications are subject to
change.
1. I resent the unfounded accusation that the "QSL technologists" somehow
forced a policy change on DXCC. Nothing of the sort happened. We could
easily have designed LOTW to allow browsing of unsolicited QSLs without
compromising security (our main concern), but were specifically instructed
by DXCC not to do so. LOTW does not permit users to examine unconfirmed QSLs
for the same reason DXCC has had a long-standing policy of discouraging
DXpeditioners from posting all QSO data from their logs on the Internet.
Regardless of any loopholes in the DXCC rules, it's never been right for
WC1M to get a card that was really intended for WY1M, or for WC1M to get a
20M CW confirmation when he incorrectly logged the QSO on 10M a day later.
I'm surprised that a contester wouldn't understand this -- after all, you
don't get credit when you log a contest QSO incorrectly. I suppose another
reason for discouraging the posting of full logs is that it would encourage
people in pileups to call and call, regardless of whether they can hear the
DX or not, in the hope that they will be worked and can get the QSO data
from an online log. Speaking as an Honor Roll and 5BDXCC DXer, I welcome any
DXCC policies that discourage poor operating practice (which, to me,
includes failing to accurately log a contact.)
2. Another completely unfounded accusation is that ARRL forced eQSL to
change its policy by dangling the prospect of DXCC acceptance. eQSL's claim
that the policy change takes them a step closer to acceptance for DXCC
credit is probably a figment of their imagination. They may perceive that
the big problem was browsing of unconfirmed QSLs (which DXCC certainly
frowns on), but as others have stated, the real problem with eQSL is its
lack of data security (see below.) There was no way for us to design LOTW to
be compatible because eQSL doesn't meet even minimal security standards
required to protect the integrity of the DXCC program. While it's
theoretically possible for third parties to securely collect QSO data
according to the LOTW specification, I recommended that ARRL develop its own
version of the system because over the long haul DXCC can't rely exclusively
on the viability of outside vendors. Even if outside vendors are used to
securely collect QSO data, ARRL cannot rely on any external entity to issue
credentials for using LOTW. That function completely controls the integrity
of LOTW and DXCC, which is the sole responsibility of ARRL (see
authentication, #9, below.)
3. It's been said that "The requirement to upload electronic logs in order
to receive QSLs will filter out thousands of potential users." This is an
extreme and baseless claim. First of all, it's not all that hard. You don't
have to submit your entire log -- you can extract and submit whatever QSOs
you want to confirm, although most participants will probably find it easier
just to upload the latest additions to their log. In either case, ARRL plans
to work with log program authors to ensure that this process is as simple
and automated as possible. A stand-alone program for manually entering QSOs
will be provided for those who do not use logging software. If you want a
confirmation, all you have to do is enter the data. It's hard to believe
that thousands will reject LOTW because of this simple requirement.
4. There's something funny about the demand that LOTW allow users to view
and print unsolicited QSLs without uploading matching log data. Does this
mean it's OK to completely ignore the confirmation request? Presumably, the
sender wants a response, but you don't have to give one. You can go merrily
about getting your card or DXCC without giving anyone your card, state or
county. That doesn't seem very friendly. Yes, you can do the same with paper
cards, but how many people hang unsolicited cards on the wall or submit them
to DXCC without having the courtesy to respond? Probably not very many. I
certainly don't (I'd feel guilty!) If most people do in fact respond, then
they have to do some work -- e.g., write out a card. Why is that any
different from uploading a log entry to LOTW or using the stand-alone
program to enter the QSO data? Are the proponents really arguing for the
right to print an unsolicited QSL or use it for awards credit without
providing a response? Will thousands of selfish potential users hate LOTW
for this?
5. But it's not really about the effort of uploading logs -- the real
argument here is that you shouldn't be required to log a contact in order to
receive a confirmation. This argument says you should be able to get a card
without giving your version of the contact information, or that it's OK to
simply echo back the information on the unsolicited QSL. As I said before, I
believe it's poor operating practice not to log a contact, and I believe
it's even worse practice to confirm the data on an unsolicited QSL unless it
matches a log entry (otherwise, in my book, it's NIL.) What if the sender is
mistaken about the time, date, mode or band? How meaningful is the card when
both stations haven't independently verified the data? Pretty pictures, I
guess. Then why not just exchange card images via e-mail or post them on a
website? There's no need to fill in the QSO data because it doesn't mean
anything. Given the it's poor quality, the data certainly should not be used
for awards credit, and then you don't need a central electronic QSL facility
at all.
6. Unlike eQSL, LOTW's primary purpose is not to produce QSL card images for
confirmed contacts. The goal for LOTW is to enhance DXCC and other award
programs, where the QSO information is supremely meaningful. As such, the
requirements of the DXCC program dictate much of the design. LOTW is
intended to speed up, simplify and reduce the cost of the awards
confirmation process for applicants and HQ, while maintaining or improving
the integrity of DXCC data. Rather than filtering out thousands of potential
users, the simplicity of uploading logs to LOTW for awards credit will
likely attract many amateurs who have avoided the awards program because of
the hassle, high cost and lengthy delays to obtain paper QSL cards.
Hopefully this, and the potential benefit of being able to obtain QSL images
from the same uploaded log data, will greatly outweigh the requirement to
upload logs and the restriction on viewing unconfirmed or unsolicited QSLs.
7. From the beginning, LOTW was designed to be a confirmation system. In
other words, both stations submit QSO data and LOTW automatically matches
them to obtain confirmations. It's analogous to what a QSL manager does,
except that confirmations are automatically routed to DXCC for pending
awards credit. Automatic confirmation is one of the big differences between
LOTW and the original eQSL design, and perhaps one reason why eQSL changed
their policy. Until the change, eQSL functioned more like an electronic
clearinghouse - a central repository of QSO data that facilitated manual
confirmation by users. LOTW's automatic confirmation means that you don't
have to decide, on a QSO-by-QSO basis, which contacts to confirm. You don't
have to pick through the incoming QSO data to determine which QSOs are
needed for credit and you don't have to do anything to submit them to DXCC.
Just upload your log and the rest is automatic.
8. Another crucial, and much more important, difference between LOTW and
eQSL is security of the data. Long before I entered the picture, ARRL had
been considering various designs for electronic QSLs. One of their biggest
concerns was the potential for modification of the QSO data. For example, I
receive an electronic QSL from 5A1A for 20M SSB, make a copy and change the
data to 10M CW so the confirmation will count for my 10M DXCC award. This is
trivially easy to do with computer data unless certain security precautions
are taken. I was one of several amateurs who suggested to ARRL that digital
signatures using public key cryptography could solve this and other security
problems. Digitally signed QSO data can't be altered without detection and
we can be positive that the signature came from a specific digital ID. To my
knowledge, no other method provides these safeguards. It may be argued that
this is stronger than the security of paper QSLs, but what's wrong with
that? Just because the old system wasn't secure, it doesn't mean the new one
shouldn't be. The extra security isn't necessary for exchanging pretty
postcards, but it sure enhances the integrity of the awards program.
9. A major problem for any security system, whether it be based on digital
IDs or passwords, is authentication. This is the process of determining the
identity of the person requesting the digital ID or password and safely
distributing the ID or password to that person. In the case of amateur
radio, the question is not so much identity per se, but callsign ownership.
The key requirement is that only the owner of a particular callsign, or a
QSL manager authorized by the owner, can digitally sign QSO data for that
callsign. But when some random online user claims to own a callsign, how do
we know he's telling the truth? It's a very difficult problem to solve, and
there are many tradeoffs. By far, this part of the LOTW design took the most
time and effort to work out. Almost half of the 83-page specification is
devoted to discussing authentication and related topics. Nine different
approaches were analyzed in great detail, including possible attack
scenarios and consequences. Using ARRL membership and e-mail addresses for
authentication, as suggested on this reflector, ranked among the weakest
methods (i.e., easy to cheat.)
10. Why so much security? Is it really necessary to use such advanced
methods to protect data that, in the final analysis, is important only to
hobbyists? Well, let's all remember the uproar that occurred when certain
DXpeditioners were found to have lied about the locations of some rare
operations (I can think of two famous cases.) One of the perpetrators was
also suspected of denying contacts to people he didn't like. Over the years,
the DXCC desk has intercepted plenty of altered cards and other attempts to
cheat the system. While some participants just say, "they're only cheating
themselves", others get pretty annoyed. Some feel quite diminished by the
thought of a cheater getting an Honor Roll plaque when they're still working
for it after 20 years and $1,000 in postage. There are others who, right or
wrong, aggressively protect their position in the Honor Roll list and would
be very vocal if "beaten" by a cheater. Although some may not take DXCC
seriously, there are many participants who take it very seriously, spend a
lot of money chasing awards, and care deeply about the integrity of the
program. I don't understand why anyone would cheat, but out of millions of
hams worldwide we're going to get quite a few who will.
11. There's a lot more to it than simple cheating -- there's also the
potential for malicious persons to undermine the integrity of the system by
stuffing it with lots of false data. A partial honor system works for paper
QSLs from non-rare entities because it's a lot of work to promulgate fake
cards on a big scale. Paper forgeries are likely to affect a small number of
people, or only the perpetrator. But computer fraud can be much more
damaging than paper fraud because it's easy to quickly duplicate the fraud
dozens, hundreds or thousands of times over. For example, without security I
could submit bogus P5 confirmations for hundreds of random callsigns in the
callbook. How does the computer know I'm not the real P5? For that matter, I
could submit bogus confirmations from any rare callsign. OK, let's say ARRL
doesn't allow electronic QSLs from rare entities unless mailed in on a
floppy disk with paper proof (sort of a pain for the DX station.) Then I'll
just flood the system with thousands of fake DL and OK confirmations. No one
will know who has a legitimate DL or OK and who doesn't. Don't care if DL or
OK cards are legit? How about the semi-rare ones that DXCC doesn't check?
Should we add more work for the DX and DXCC by requiring a floppy and paper
proof for those QSOs, too? What happens if someone hacks the ARRL server and
changes the QSO data for hundreds of users? What if a disgruntled ARRL
employee alters thousands of incoming QSL records just to get back at the
boss? How can we know whether any given QSO record was altered after it left
the sender's computer? Without good answers to these and many other
questions (or, worse, if a breach occurs), the LOTW system and the DXCC
program will be perceived to lack integrity. Once that horse gets out of the
barn, it'll be too late to put it back in.
12. One of the truisms in system design is that security and convenience
have an inverse relationship: the harder it is to breach a system, the less
convenient it will be to use (there can be tradeoffs with privacy, too --
e.g., are you prepared to let the government keep a digital copy of your
fingerprints in their database?) Much of the design work for LOTW involved
vigorous debates over this tradeoff. Everyone wanted the system to be
secure, but everyone also wanted it to be easy to use. KR1G and I were hired
to be the security experts, so naturally we advocated for as strong a system
as possible. ARRL staffers insisted on integrity of the system, but pushed
very hard to make it easy to get started and easy to use. I can assure you
that at all times the needs of LOTW's customers were paramount in everyone's
mind. In the end, it was hard for us to escape one piece of logic: you can
start out with strong security and, if it's too inconvenient, relax the
rules later on. But you can't do it the other way around.
13. Although automated software will not be provided for amateur-to-amateur
QSLing, the system design allows it. In theory, you can extract QSO data,
digitally sign it, send the signed QSO data to another station (for whom it
was unsolicited), get a confirming digitally signed QSO record in return,
then e-mail both records to LOTW for confirmation and awards credit for both
stations (or the station getting the unsolicited QSO data can send it in
along with his signed matching QSO data.) It doesn't matter who actually
e-mails the QSO data to LOTW -- it only matters that there are matching
records, each digitally signed by one of the stations. That said, I don't
know why anyone would go through the trouble. It's much easier just to
upload your log and forget about it. Besides, what DXpedition would want to
receive 50,000 e-mails before they even leave the island? Or have to send
50,000 e-mails back? The point is this: application design should be
appropriate for the medium that will be used. It is often the case that
mirroring a bricks-and-mortar or snail-mail design is not the best approach
for the Internet.
14. Someone wondered whether contest logs submitted to ARRL could
automatically get into LOTW. The implementation team is responsible for
selecting the LOTW format and I don't know what they settled on. My
understanding is that Cabrillo won't be adequate for all the QSO data we
might want to submit. Also, each LOTW record has to be digitally signed,
which is not part of the Cabrillo standard. The original spec for LOTW
records didn't have a field for a contest exchange, but I don't know what
the final spec will be. My conclusion is that it's likely you will have to
do two e-mail submissions: one in Cabrillo for the contest sponsor and one
in LOTW format for DXCC. As long as logging programs support the LOTW format
(as is hoped), it won't be a huge hardship to do two e-mails, and maybe the
logging programs will make this transparent to the user. It's entirely
possible that the two formats will merge down the road so that only one
submission will be required.
15. I plan to use LOTW for two things: 1) to get awards credit (faster
turnaround time, zero postage cost and no stolen cards/greenstamps/IRCs),
and 2) to ease the burden of responding to thousands of requests for contest
QSLs. I'll use mail or the buro to request a card for any new entity that I
work or from DXpeditions that offer interesting cards. But I'll get DXCC
credit right away through LOTW and I won't clog up the buro with new
band/mode requests or preemptive contest QSLs. My hope is that most contest
stations will stop preemptive QSLing and use LOTW instead. If paper QSLs are
requested only by those who really want them, or those who don't have access
to LOTW, then the burden on the buro, QSL managers and contest operators
should be greatly reduced.
I hope this too-lengthy e-mail sheds some light on the subject. Given that
full details about LOTW won't be released until the system becomes
available, it's understandable that there are some misimpressions about it.
But I would hope that in the future people would refrain from making
statements about the actions and motives of others without first
ascertaining the facts.
73, Dick WC1M
>From artinian at siol.net Sun Apr 14 21:41:12 2002
From: artinian@siol.net (Marijan Miletic, S56A)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PACKET AND SPOTTING
References: <02b401c1e257$87f81860$5a2afea9@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <018801c1e3f4$b7ae66b0$0100a8c0@S56A>
The pain is even greater in Internet addicts :-)
Stick with CW and HF radio!
73 de Mario, S56A, N1YU slowly packing for KH1
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Neiger" <n6tj@sbcglobal.net>
To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:23 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PACKET AND SPOTTING
> I read with great amusement of all the foibles the packet-eers have thrust
> upon themselves with accusations of "self spotting", etc etc, ad nauseum.
>
> Be careful of what you ask for. You just might get it.
>
>
> Jim Neiger
> N6TJ
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>From jjreisert at alum.mit.edu Sun Apr 14 19:52:44 2002
From: jjreisert@alum.mit.edu (Jim Reisert AD1C)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team U.A.E.
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020414185055.01590c98@mail.attbi.com>
This didn't make it to the CQ-Contest reflector, so here it is.
73 - Jim AD1C
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES TEAM (A61AJ) INVITED TO WRTC 2002
As part of its original plan for the WRTC 2002 event, the WRTC2002
organizing committee reserved the right to select one team with special
characteristics, while maintaining the high quality operator criteria
established as a hallmark for the WRTC 2002 games.
With this objective in mind, at its meeting on April 8, 2002, the committee
decided to invite a team from the United Arab Emirates (A61AJ) to be the
representative of the contesting community in the Middle East.
The teams operating from A61AJ have achieved superb results over the past
few years and this action seeks to recognize this fact. The inclusion of
this special team is thus viewed as a positive addition to the games.
Team UAE will be led by Ali Al-Futtaim, A61AJ, who has been the driving
force behind the development of what is one of the premier contest
superstations in the Middle East and Asia. In the spirit of the games, a
team has been selected that is representative of the current A61AJ
operating roster. While his team members are U.S. nationals, they also
represent the A61AJ team as it now stands in the contesting landscape.
Accordingly, we are delighted to welcome Ali Al-Futtaim, A61AJ, and his
operating team of Jeff Briggs, K1ZM, and Phil Goetz, N6ZZ, to the games as
the WRTC 2002 special team selection.
WRTC2002 Organizing Committee
--
Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863
USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
>From VE3ZT at rac.ca Sun Apr 14 21:06:38 2002
From: VE3ZT@rac.ca (Paul-VE3ZT)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots. who needs 'em?
In-Reply-To: <000d01c1e34c$870dc210$6400000a@W5XD>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020414200109.00a6bc50@pop6.sympatico.ca>
Hi Wayne,
I thought there was something wrong with me until I read your post. At
least there are two of us who can't be bothered with that packet stuff.
Getting the beam pointed to within 20 or 30 degrees of Europe is high-tech
enough for me.
cu in the next one,
Paul, VE3ZT
________________
At 08:37 PM 13/04/2002, W. Wright, W5XD, you said...
>Am I the only person on the planet that thinks running packet in a contest
>REDUCES the enjoyment of the weekend? If the guys that are complaining at
>each other about abusing packet would all just quit using it, they might
>discover you enjoy the sense of accomplishment that comes with finding your
>own multipliers.
>
>As a software vendor I get requests that I can paraphrase as "please improve
>the aim of your software for shooting fish in a barrel--there were 100 fish
>in that barrel last weekend and I could have shot more than 90 of them if
>your software were better". I do attempt to "improve the aim" (should I?),
>but one the great mysteries of life is why folks don't try to go find fish
>that haven't been put the the barrel yet?
>
>Wayne, W5XD
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>From jjreisert at alum.mit.edu Sun Apr 14 21:17:16 2002
From: jjreisert@alum.mit.edu (Jim Reisert AD1C)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dodgy spotting
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHAECHDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020414201339.00b3cd98@mail.attbi.com>
At 11:22 AM 4/14/2002 -0400, jljarvis wrote:
>What we know, from Brett-VR2BG, from Jamie-NS3T, and from others on
>CQDXirc, is that not all spots come from the station whose callsign
>is indicated as the author.
Exactly! Here is a spot made during CQ WPX SSB:
AD1C 14215.1 OT2A says he is running 10 kW!! 0706 31 Mar 2002
The only reason I knew about this was I got an E-mail from one of the
operators denying the 10KW charge. But I never made the spot! I wasn't
even in the contest, except to give the prefix to a few friends. Second,
0706z is 2:06 a.m. local time and I was sound asleep.
73 - Jim AD1C
--
Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863
USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
>From kr1g at hotmail.com Mon Apr 15 02:40:57 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
Message-ID: <F1065HfqR77bieLYCT400005f1c@hotmail.com>
I agree with Bill 100% - its the OH's event. I can't even imagine the amount
of work they're doing, but I'm grateful even though i can't be there.
Its their contest, its their show - let them do what they see fit.
They can invite George Bush as an op, Yassar Arafat as the master of
ceremonies, run a seance in conjunction with the event trying to contact
great silent key contesters, or even invite relatively inexperienced ops and
give them stacks and amps for comic relief. I won't complain.
Bill, I won't bid on your spot - I'd only embarrass myself!
Well, I haven't read the whining - i don't *like* whining. Even though I'm
whining against whining myself.
Lets leave the OHs alone and let them do the fantastic good I'm sure they
will,
73
Ted KR1G
>From: "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com>
>To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
>
>
>Can't believe the whining about this team. Forget that both ops are world
>class. Forget that they announced this team well in advance.
>
>The OH's are putting on this event. It is THEIR contest. If they want to
>invite novice ops from OH0 who are sons of the biggest donor... its OK
>with me. They are doing all the work and coming up with all the money
>required to pull it off. To publically criticize them for any of their
>choices seems to me to be in very poor taste.
>
>As for money talks.... I will put my spot up for the highest bidder.
>Proceeds to benefit the event. Any talkers? eerrrr takers?
>
>73
>
>Bill Fisher
>
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>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Sun Apr 14 19:56:32 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204141528140.23160-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <014601c1e420$c47b8400$c46f7e42@sbcglobal.net>
The fact of the matter is: hosting a successful WRTC today is big business.
And certainly not-for-profit. Nor, apparently, in some circles, for credit
or gratitude, either.
Of course, money talks. I seem to recall the initial Finnish budget was of
the order of $200,000, with one-half coming from a major commercial sponsor.
Not exactly pocket change for anyone. Just where do all the purists think
this money is coming from?
Perhaps any future WRTC's will cost even more. What's the chance of any of
these future events happening if potential host nations become so disgusted
with what the Finn's experienced, that they wouldn't touch it with a 10
meter dipole?
I have known quite a few of the OH contesters, well, for over 30 years. A
MORE SERIOUS group of contesters you will not find.
We must (1) give them credit for even taking on the challenge of hosting
WRTC2002 (especially now in the post 9/11 era), and (2) assume they know
what they are doing.
If accepting "help" from any outside source, they believe to be the BEST way
to do it, why can't we simply stand back, and shut-up. Unless we can offer
some concrete assistance to them. More criticism, I'm sure, is what they
don't need.
If there ever is another WRTC, perhaps the financial help could come from
the formal formation of support organizations (kind of like the Political
Action Comittees in the USA), where EACH TWO MAN TEAM acquires sponsors, and
fund raising efforts, and the like, with 100% of the proceeds going to the
host WRTC Committee?
Jim Neiger
N6TJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 12:44 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
>
> Can't believe the whining about this team. Forget that both ops are world
> class. Forget that they announced this team well in advance.
>
> The OH's are putting on this event. It is THEIR contest. If they want to
> invite novice ops from OH0 who are sons of the biggest donor... its OK
> with me. They are doing all the work and coming up with all the money
> required to pull it off. To publically criticize them for any of their
> choices seems to me to be in very poor taste.
>
> As for money talks.... I will put my spot up for the highest bidder.
> Proceeds to benefit the event. Any talkers? eerrrr takers?
>
> 73
>
> Bill Fisher
>
>
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>From k3pp at ptd.net Sun Apr 14 23:51:36 2002
From: k3pp@ptd.net (Glenn O'Donnell, K3PP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION>
Hi Dave,
I have the Top Ten DX Doubler SO2R controller, the Top Ten Band Decoders,
and a WX0B Six-Pak and it is a VY FB arrangement. A TTD decoder (with the
source-driver option) can drive both the Six-Pak and a I.C.E. multi-band
bandpass filter. The key is, some devices switch to ground (the filter) and
others switch to +12v (the Six-Pak). For the SO2R controller, there is also
the WX0B SO2R Master. The DXD is less expensive and I prefer the layout
and physical packaging, but both are great units.
With one computer, you can control everything from WriteLog, CT, or NA (and
I suspect TR, although I've never tried it). One computer consumes less
real estate, requires only one human interface, and is less trouble. I
can't say enough good things about this arrangement. All I need is another
amp, another bandpass filter, and time to use it all (and a lot of practice
to get the most out of it!), and I'll be in tip-top shape.
VY 73 de Glenn K3PP
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Robbins" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
To: "reflector cq-contest" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 10:59 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> I hate to reinvent the wheel, don't have a lot of time to homebrew or
> put together kits, and don't know much about operating so2r besides what
> I have seen from a few guest operators. But I am ready to buy the stuff
> needed to make a better so2r setup option on my m/m station. I am
> looking to buy as much as possible, preferably including cables already
> made up.
>
> The equipment would be:
> 2x ft-1000mp
> heil proset headset
> ct or na logging software
> dvp board for voice keying
> aea morsemachine or other external keyer(s)
> each band has its own coax coming in to the table
>
> What I am looking for are suggestions for 2 or 3 things:
> 1. a headset/keyer/mic/dvp switch with cables
> 2. a 6 antenna to 2 radio antenna switch with band decoder for each
> radio and control cables.
> 3. a 6 band 2 radio bandpass filter switch for between the radios and
> amps, or possibly two separate switched bandpass filters with cables and
> decoder.
>
> Could one decoder run both the antenna switch and bandpass filter
> switch?
>
> What is available off the shelf to do this?
>
> What are the pro's and con's of different models that are available, if
> there are choices?
>
> Is it better to run 1 computer or 2?? Why??
>
>
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
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>From tavan at tibco.com Sun Apr 14 22:02:26 2002
From: tavan@tibco.com (Rick Tavan)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <3CBA50D2.F6236E1A@tibco.com>
I'm also an SO2R beginner. I took it up mainly so I could write upbeat,
encouraging columns about the experience for the NCCC newsletter. So if you get
responses from the Great Ones, listen to them more carefully. FWIW, here's what
I got and am pretty happy with (in order of your questions):
1. Top Ten Devices DX Doubler - well thought out, simple to use. Just plug in
the rigs, the
paddel, an (optional) external keyer, the computer, the phones and the mic.
Includes an optional cable for the 1000MP which is OK although the
connectors
and stiff cables stick out awkwardly from the radio. Good review of this
box in NCJ
recently by N0AX I believe.
Note that if you want to put an external DVK between the mic and the DXD
you will
need to make up a cable with a male mic connector. Rare. I'm doing it this
way but some of
the logging programs allegedly do well with sound cards in the computer and
that would
be a simpler hook-up.
2. WX0B Array Solutions Six Pack two radio antenna switch does exactly what you
want.
3. I got a pair of Dunestar 600 BPFs. One is driven by a Top Ten Band Decoder
for the 1000MP. (You will need one decoder for each MP). My second radio is a
930 so I have to use a manual switch for its filter. I got the decoder with two
sets of outputs so I can, in theory, drive the MP half of the Six Pack
automatically. Haven't hooked that up yet but I'm confident it can be made to
work. You have to build up a little diode matrix if any one feedline serves
more than one band. If you have multiple antennas for some bands, you may
prefer not to automate antenna switching.
You absolutely, positively want to use a single computer to drive this stuff
for SO2R. Don't even think about two. Programs like trlog understand you are
SO2R and do a lot of the headstanding for you. The DX Doubler has a cable to
the (single) computer that eliminates lots of custom cabling in and out of your
computer's parallel port. You don't want to worry about two keyboards and don't
have to with this setup. OTOH, if you want to do M/S you will have to have two
computers and network them. I've seen this done but never set it up myself.
The main alternative to all this stuff seems to be the Array Solutions SO2R
Master. I found several excellent contesters using each box. SO2R Master has
most of the connections on a box with no controls so it can be out of the way
behind the rigs. But the switch box takes up desk space. But it has nice
switches. The DX Doubler fits nicely under my rigs which sit on a shelf
supported by 2x4's. If you keep your rigs at table level, this may be a
problem. I chose DX Doubler because I understood the switch labels and N6RO
recommended it. But K5RC recommended SO2R Master. Study the ergonomics and pick
one.
If you have a second-radio antenna that is far away from the primary radio,
consider skipping the BPFs. Mine are quite unnecessary when I have Rig 1 on the
tribander and Rig 2 on the vertical 300' away. OTOH, when Rig 2 is on the 40m
rotary dipole on the same boom as the tribander, the BPFs are the only thing
that keeps the 20m receiver from turning to toast.
I have one RFI problem with this setup - the TTD band decoder gets funny when I
transmit on 10m so I have to switch in the 10m filter manually. Even with the
DXD you end up with quite a rat's nest of cables so I advise you to be more
careful with cable construction, grounding and connections.
It has been much more fun integrating all this stuff than actually operating
SO2R. That's hard! ;-)
73,
Rick N6XI
David Robbins wrote:
> I hate to reinvent the wheel, don't have a lot of time to homebrew or
> put together kits, and don't know much about operating so2r besides what
> I have seen from a few guest operators. But I am ready to buy the stuff
> needed to make a better so2r setup option on my m/m station. I am
> looking to buy as much as possible, preferably including cables already
> made up.
>
> The equipment would be:
> 2x ft-1000mp
> heil proset headset
> ct or na logging software
> dvp board for voice keying
> aea morsemachine or other external keyer(s)
> each band has its own coax coming in to the table
>
> What I am looking for are suggestions for 2 or 3 things:
> 1. a headset/keyer/mic/dvp switch with cables
> 2. a 6 antenna to 2 radio antenna switch with band decoder for each
> radio and control cables.
> 3. a 6 band 2 radio bandpass filter switch for between the radios and
> amps, or possibly two separate switched bandpass filters with cables and
> decoder.
>
> Could one decoder run both the antenna switch and bandpass filter
> switch?
>
> What is available off the shelf to do this?
>
> What are the pro's and con's of different models that are available, if
> there are choices?
>
> Is it better to run 1 computer or 2?? Why??
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
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TIBCO Software Inc.
3165 Porter Drive
Palo Alto, CA 94304-1213
tavan@tibco.com
n6xi@arrl.net
650-846-5214 Office
408-896-0476 Cell
>From ha5pp at yahoo.com Mon Apr 15 01:28:19 2002
From: ha5pp@yahoo.com (Zoltan Szoke)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 2002 Teams
Message-ID: <20020415072819.23678.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi Contesters,
Money talks...(??) (What does it mean?)
Only one JA-Team (In Slovenia: 3!!).
No Team-Oceania.
??
I think that the Finns (organizers) must find out
something. They want (simply) more teams for a bigger
competition. I believe in Finn's GOOD intent. (We
don't see the background, there is probably no
"enough" teams...)
Good luck to Organizers!
73
Zoli
HA5PP
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>From mitja.gregoric at hit.si Mon Apr 15 12:01:29 2002
From: mitja.gregoric@hit.si (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Mitja_Gregori=E8?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Lost LOG
Message-ID: <000901c1e45c$224fe4f0$4a284dc1@ng.hit.si>
Because of strange circumstances my WPX SSB log is lost for good.Things look
as far as im concerned desperate here.My mistake to trust to my computer and
to not make a copy.
Mike - S57LWG
E-mail: mitja.gregoric@hit.si
http://qsl.net/s57lwg
>From swca at swbell.net Mon Apr 15 08:13:38 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION>
Message-ID: <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
> With one computer, you can control everything from WriteLog, CT, or NA
(and
> I suspect TR, although I've never tried it).
TRlog can do all that. And more.
Mark, N5OT
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 15 07:33:40 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204151333.g3FDXeY19867@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
WX5S(@W6YX) 4553 1078 48 10,743,348 NCCC
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
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USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
NT6K 2254 845 48 4,173,455 NCCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
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USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
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USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
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USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
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USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
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USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
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USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
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USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
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USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
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USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
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USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
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USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
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USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
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USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
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USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
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USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
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USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
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USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
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USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
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USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
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USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
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USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
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USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
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USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 15 07:39:10 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
15Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204151339.g3FDdAQ19886@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
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Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
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Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCC
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
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Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20h 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCC
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 464 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCC
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From s51ta at volja.net Mon Apr 15 16:37:10 2002
From: s51ta@volja.net (Tadej Mezek, S51TA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION> <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
Message-ID: <00d801c1e486$0fb14170$6c4548d9@home>
For SO2R the best software is TR (for now)-dualing CQ, but if writelog will
add some functions as they are on TR, writelog will be better i suppose.
The computers can do almost everything today so we must just wait a little
bit longer:)
I am using TR for so2r CW and writelog for SSB, because of voice keyer
symplicity...
73 Ted, s51ta
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Beckwith" <swca@swbell.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> > With one computer, you can control everything from WriteLog, CT, or NA
> (and
> > I suspect TR, although I've never tried it).
>
> TRlog can do all that. And more.
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
>
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 15 07:39:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204151339.g3FDdn019895@localhost.localdomain>
2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: jidx-hfcw@ne.nal.go.jp
Mail logs to:
JIDX HFCW Contest
c/o Five-Nine Magazine
PO Box 59
Kamata, Tokyo 144
Japan
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
AE0Q(@K0HM) 452 115 64,400 Grand Mesa
N0AC(@N0NI) 427 110 30 54,780
N2ED 255 96 7 29,184 FRC
K3WW 224 81 6 21,060 FRC
N6ZZ 192 82 20,910 SCCC
N9RV 161 70 3 15,190 SMC
VE7FO 120 70 9 10,780
N4GG 43 34 4 1,972 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
WN6K 238 88 21 30,008 SCCC
VE3BUC 86 47 5 4,042
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/10 LP
NT6K 127 41 5 10,414 NCCC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 15 07:40:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204151340.g3FDeQQ19906@localhost.localdomain>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCC
UA4LU 180 4 180
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
>From ns3t at arrl.net Mon Apr 15 10:58:52 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] re: dodgy spotting
Message-ID: <005501c1e485$b05924e0$5f20fccd@jvpcb01>
Your "spot" of OT2A was made thru a node in Germany.
73s Jamie NS3T
>AD1C 14215.1 OT2A says he is running 10 kW!! 0706 31 Mar 2002
>The only reason I knew about this was I got an E-mail from one of the
>operators denying the 10KW charge. But I never made the spot! I wasn't
>even in the contest, except to give the prefix to a few friends. Second,
>0706z is 2:06 a.m. local time and I was sound asleep.
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Mon Apr 15 13:24:45 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dodgy spotting
In-Reply-To: <200204142340.g3ENekAl002541@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020415120824.00d2c4a0@pop.pacific.net.hk>
N2EA added this, as well as other reasonable level-headed comments:
>I am not convinced that extensive spotting actually produces a real
>advantage.
It can be detrimental. I am often tempted to do self-spotting, but to
deliberately
mis-spot myself in hopes it reduces the mess these spots-gone-ballistic can
cause. I often am forced to abandon a run when things get messy like that.
>ps: (VR2BG...you were pounding in, here in VT on 15 this morning, Brett!)
I sensed the band was good, but so few called - even if I were serious in
JIDX HF CW this year, I'll happily work non-JAs when a JA isn't calling & even
reply to the pesky QSLs such contacts inevitably produce. JIDX is quickly
becoming no fun due to lack of activity & I'm sorry to say I spent most of the
weekend up on the roof enjoying the sun as a result.
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Mon Apr 15 17:58:59 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dodgy spotting
In-Reply-To: <200204151603.g3FG3RAl016620@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020415165035.00d2edf0@pop.pacific.net.hk>
Thanks to AD1C for noticing he too is making spots he didn't.
Anybody else?
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Apr 15 14:31:33 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R methodology
Message-ID: <008701c1e4a3$63643bc0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
I like to use two computers in SO2R because I am not that good at it...
The second station has its own keyboard and I can hunt and peck bits and
pieces of the callsign into it - maybe all or part of the exchange...and
once the timiong is right for a pause on the run rig and availability on the
secon d rig I hit F4...
If you only have one keyboard you can easily be overwhelmed...of course it
is more efficient and I am certain the winners have perfected their skills
along these lines...
Me I just am bored listening to myself call CQ so I do something else while
that is going on and at the same time fatten up the score....when it gets
too maddening I just run em....taking a pause from info overload...
Don't forget it is 12 days until the Florida QSO Party!
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
73,
Jim, K4OJ
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Mon Apr 15 16:20:33 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ web site?
Message-ID: <20020415152032.E4705@cs.utexas.edu>
Anybody know what's wrong with CQ's web site?
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Tue Apr 16 00:22:09 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Writelog-RSGB Jubilee contest
Message-ID: <VA.00000c13.00269c51@gw3njw>
Hi
The module is now ready to have the ribbon tied on, thanks to
Ray/G4FON with help from Wayne/W5XD. However before we do the
final packaging I would like to have a few Guinea pig beta
testers.
What you'd need to do at this stage is to load a .dll file into
the .......\Writelog\programs directory and register the dll
using regsvr32. If this sounds daunting, it's not, and even a
dummy like me can do it! The final package will be self
installing for anyone challenged in this area however.
If you'd like to help, please email me and I'll either send you
the file or tell you where to download it.
tia
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
Contest Cambria-http://www.gw7x.org
>From K4ZW at Staffnet.com Tue Apr 16 02:00:26 2002
From: K4ZW@Staffnet.com (Ken Claerbout)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
Message-ID: <006101c1e4e2$190cdde0$9d504fc6@main>
Here's what I'm using at my QTH.
1.) Single computer with Writelog
2.) W5XD SO2R box (mine is the old kit form)
3.) Sound card in PC for voice keyer
4.) Top Ten band decoders on both radios
5.) WX0B Six Pak antenna switch
6.) WX0B (W3NQN design) BPF on the second radio only (this filter is worth
the money)
I've been using this arrangement for 2 years. I'm very happy with the
way everything is working and have no plans to change the setup unless
something better comes along. Here is what I consider some of the benefits
of this arrangement.
1.) with a click of the mouse, I'm able to listen to the second radio in
both ears while the "run" radio is in transmit. Or, I can listen to TX & RX
of a single radio full time by switching out of the latch function. I could
never last 48 hours with a different radio in each ear.
2.) By hitting shift and down arrow, I can enter a call from the second
radio without interrupting the run radio. Personally, I find this much more
convenient than wrestling with two computers.
3.) The right channel audio output of the sound card is wired to the run
radio (on the right) and the left channel to the second radio. Writelog
routes the audio to which ever rig is chosen. The software provides the
interlock that keeps me from transmitting on both radios at the same time.
A big no-no for Single Op! The same applies on CW from the SO2R box.
4.) The key to maximizing the effectiveness of second radio, is the ability
to hear signals of all strengths while the run radio is blasting away.
Antenna separation is important but so is a good bandpass filter (BPF).
Choose one wisely. Incidentally, I haven't seen the need to put a BPF on my
run radio.
73
Ken K4ZW
>From k9gx at n4gn.com Tue Apr 16 07:29:02 2002
From: k9gx@n4gn.com (Mark S. Williams)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team
U.A. E.
References: <00ae01c1e27e$2ccdb540$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Message-ID: <002b01c1e510$20f43fc0$e0981ad8@iglou.com>
You know, Ali has built a world class station at A61AJ. He's invited some of
the best ops in the world to that station to maximize the effectiveness of
the hardware. He's earned a place on the "world stage" in our "game".
Why shouldn't he be part of the showcase that is the WRTC?
Who would you rather see in the Olympics? Athletes who are at the peak of
their game because they have the drive, determination and perserverence to
be the best in the world....or fat guys who eat three donuts for breakfast
every morning? (Not that I have anything against donuts, mind you...I have
yet to meet one I didn't like!)
Just a thought from K9GX who hopes to visit Helsinki this summer to watch
the WRTC performances and maybe, if I'm very lucky, find a chair at some
friendly OH shack during IARU.
73,
Mark
K9GX
>From s51ta at volja.net Tue Apr 16 09:42:09 2002
From: s51ta@volja.net (Tadej Mezek, S51TA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION> <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
<5.1.0.14.2.20020415170919.05091ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
HI!
I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is not
put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and the
audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
Are there any changes lately?
On writelog you just plug the microphone from heil or any other in SB mic
input, speaker output connect with TRX and the thing works perfectly anf it
even switch the mic off when transmit. And recording of messages is much
easier.....like k1ea dvk board.
Ted, s51ta
Otherwise I was always TR fan....maybe something can be done by Tree.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: "Tadej Mezek, S51TA" <s51ta@volja.net>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> At 03:37 PM 4/15/02 +0200, you wrote:
> >I am using TR for so2r CW and writelog for SSB, because of voice keyer
> >symplicity...
>
>
> Ted, you might want to look at the freeware package SBDVP. It integrates
> very tightly with TR and uses a SB-16 or similar sound card. The best
part
> is that all of the keystrokes of TR of TR work just as on CW - for
example,
> when running, you type in a station's callsign, dupe with the spacebar,
say
> his callsign and hit Enter. The program sends your exchange to him. You
> type in his exchange for you and hit [Enter] again, and the program sends
> the QSL message. The only thing it won't do is voice callsigns and serial
> numbers from typed input, but that is mostly an academic advantage, and
> Writelog doesn't do that anyway, does it?
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
>From jim at kc4hw.net Tue Apr 16 07:40:02 2002
From: jim@kc4hw.net (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
In-Reply-To: <006101c1e4e2$190cdde0$9d504fc6@main>
Message-ID: <200204161040.g3GAe2oh013541@smtp-server3.tampabay.rr.com>
> 1.) Single computer with Writelog
I have been using one computer with two video cards and two monitors.
Unfortunately my vision is not a good as it once was and this gives me
the opportunity to run both monitors at 800x600. This confirguration give
the ability to treat two monitors as one. The mouse will scroll back and
forth between the two. You can put alot of the misc windows on the
second monitor and reserve the main monitor for the log, bandmaps,
decode windows (rtty), etc
There are limitations on what cards can be used. On Win98SE check in
the help for Multiple Display Support and make sure your video cards are
compatible.
Jim Johnson, Melbourne, Florida
jim@kc4hw.net - http://www.kc4hw.net
DXCluster RF Connection: 144.97
DXCluster Telnet: Coming Soon
>From 00tlzivney at bsu.edu Tue Apr 16 09:44:24 2002
From: 00tlzivney@bsu.edu (Zivney, Terry L.)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NIL on 40m SSB split
Message-ID: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBA9A@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
Like many of you, I have been studying my UBN report
from the 2001 CQ WW SSB contest in order to see what
copying mistakes I had made.
My biggest surprise was that I lost 3 multipliers on
40 m ssb. Now, I could easily understand thinking I
was working one station while actually working another
in the crowded 40m CW segment, but how in the world
does this happen when working split? In each case,
I was transmitting up on the frequency requested by
the DX station calling CQ. In each case, I am sure
I heard my call on the CQ frequency. In each case,
I obviously copied a valid call on the CQ frequency,
because the three stations in question each made more
than 4,000 QSOs. And, needless to say, each of these
stations had big signals so it seems unlikely there
was a second station CQing on the same frequency and
listening on the same split, given that most of the
time the standard CQ includes "listening on this
frequency and 72**."
What can I do to improve on this problem?
Terry Zivney, N4TZ/9
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 16 07:47:56 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204161347.g3GDluV20763@localhost.localdomain>
2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: jidx-hfcw@ne.nal.go.jp
Mail logs to:
JIDX HFCW Contest
c/o Five-Nine Magazine
PO Box 59
Kamata, Tokyo 144
Japan
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
AE0Q(@K0HM) 452 115 64,400 Grand Mesa
N0AC(@N0NI) 427 110 30 54,780
N2ED 255 96 7 29,184 FRC
K3WW 224 81 6 21,060 FRC
N6ZZ 192 82 20,910 SCCC
N9RV 161 70 3 15,190 SMC
VE7FO 120 70 9 10,780
N4GG 43 34 4 1,972 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
WN6K 238 88 21 30,008 SCCC
SV1CIB 109 66 9,174
VE3BUC 86 47 4 4,042
WA6BOB 35 33 2 1,155
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/10 LP
OM5AW 466 44 10 20,504
NT6K 127 41 4 10,414 NCCC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 16 07:48:32 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204161348.g3GDmW020773@localhost.localdomain>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 16 07:51:44 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
16Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204161351.g3GDpiA20787@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
VE7SCC 2120 0 48 4,406,904 Coquitlam Amateur Ra
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
P40V 6610 1251 48 25,617,978 NCCC
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCF
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 <36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28.5 1,318,518
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20h 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35.8 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 @12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCF
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32.8 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 542 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
VE5SF 628 366 9 543,510
PA5AT 648 383 15 hr 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCF
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCF
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
YT1RA 1227 588 36 1,535,268 YU CC
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18.5 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14.4 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35.6 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30,5 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCF
YT9X(YZ1KA) 1346 629 36 1,697,042 YU CC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
K3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Tue Apr 16 14:34:18 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204161331320.30467-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Still have not seen any of the 3 plaques I (we) supposedly won in the WPX
CW and SSB contests. One is four years old now.
So, I'm curious if anyone is actually paying CQ for the plaques? If so,
where is the money going?
73
Bill, W4AN
>From n4uk at mindspring.com Tue Apr 16 21:37:11 2002
From: n4uk@mindspring.com (n4uk@mindspring.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Quartz Hill C.C New Zealand
Message-ID: <Springmail.0994.1019003831.0.22034700@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
Sorry for the bandwidth guys. Lost the e-mail address of the ZLs from
Wellington. I hope to be in Wellington on Friday. Can someone send me tel
numbers or E-mail addresses from the Quartz Hill Radio Club members?
Thanks, Ken, N4UK. SOuth of Taupo, NZ
>From k2av at contesting.com Tue Apr 16 22:03:16 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NIL on 40m SSB split
References: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBA9A@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
Message-ID: <00c101c1e5ab$a89aa540$0500a8c0@swift>
This one smells like the old
fumble-fingered-ten-thumbs-while-working-USA-SSB-stations-at-4-AM-in-t
he-morning-local-after-being-up-all-night jinx.
In your case, specifically, from across the pond,
"November Four Tango Zulu Five Nine One Four"
as he types in "N4RZ", and too bleary eyed to tell he missed the
key...
Been there, done that...
73, Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zivney, Terry L." <00tlzivney@bsu.edu>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Cc: <smc@qth.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 9:44 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NIL on 40m SSB split
> Like many of you, I have been studying my UBN report
> from the 2001 CQ WW SSB contest in order to see what
> copying mistakes I had made.
>
> My biggest surprise was that I lost 3 multipliers on
> 40 m ssb. Now, I could easily understand thinking I
> was working one station while actually working another
> in the crowded 40m CW segment, but how in the world
> does this happen when working split? In each case,
> I was transmitting up on the frequency requested by
> the DX station calling CQ. In each case, I am sure
> I heard my call on the CQ frequency. In each case,
> I obviously copied a valid call on the CQ frequency,
> because the three stations in question each made more
> than 4,000 QSOs. And, needless to say, each of these
> stations had big signals so it seems unlikely there
> was a second station CQing on the same frequency and
> listening on the same split, given that most of the
> time the standard CQ includes "listening on this
> frequency and 72**."
>
> What can I do to improve on this problem?
>
> Terry Zivney, N4TZ/9
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>From k8dx at raex.com Tue Apr 16 22:27:40 2002
From: k8dx@raex.com (Scott Detloff K8DX)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204161331320.30467-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <01d101c1e5af$1188cca0$1c1ec4d8@oemcomputer>
Hi Bill,
I know exactly what you mean. As a matter of fact I spoke with
N8BJQ, a few weeks ago about this and I offered to help handle
making and sending out past due and future plaques. He said that
he had it under control, since he was only backed up a few years!
I made the same offer to K1AR about the CQ WW plaques. His
reply was much more positive. With some teamwork, he figures
that if I could give him a hand, plaques would hit about the same time
the results are out. What a novel idea, eh?
Scott K8DX
Scott Detloff K8DX
Paris, Ohio
Visit The North Coast Contesters @ www.qsl.net/ncc
Tour K8DX @ www.qsl.net/k8dx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:34 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
>
> Still have not seen any of the 3 plaques I (we) supposedly won in the WPX
> CW and SSB contests. One is four years old now.
>
> So, I'm curious if anyone is actually paying CQ for the plaques? If so,
> where is the money going?
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
>
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>
>From kh6nd at lava.net Tue Apr 16 18:02:49 2002
From: kh6nd@lava.net (kh6nd@lava.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204161331320.30467-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <3CBCE5D9.1B9AEB8C@lava.net>
Bill,
You can add 9 more CQ plaques that were won, and never received, from
1997-2001 efforts at KH7R.
Six for WPX, one for CQ 160, and last but not least, two of these were
the CQ WW World M/M combined trophies from 1997 and 1998.
Anyone else care to add to this list?
Mike
KH6ND
"Bill Fisher, W4AN" wrote:
>
> Still have not seen any of the 3 plaques I (we) supposedly won in the WPX
> CW and SSB contests. One is four years old now.
>
> So, I'm curious if anyone is actually paying CQ for the plaques? If so,
> where is the money going?
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From ua9cdc at mail.ur.ru Wed Apr 17 15:07:14 2002
From: ua9cdc@mail.ur.ru (Igor Sokolov)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION> <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
<5.1.0.14.2.20020415170919.05091ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
<00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
Message-ID: <007f01c1e5ec$9eb83740$0801a8c0@mail.ur.ru>
> I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is
not
> put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and
the
> audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
I am prepared to demonstrate you on the air that the audio that comes from
SBDVP is as good or better then that coming from the mike. I have been using
SBDVP for the last 3-4 years and noticed that my CQ attracts more callers if
sent with SBDVP were the audio can be preprocessed.
> even switch the mic off when transmit. And recording of messages is much
> easier.....like k1ea dvk board.
Recording with SBDVP is Ctl-F# then play it back by pressing that F#
Just wonder what can be easier and more intuitive?
73, Igor UA9CDC
>
>
> Ted, s51ta
>
>
> Otherwise I was always TR fan....maybe something can be done by Tree.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
> To: "Tadej Mezek, S51TA" <s51ta@volja.net>
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
>
>
> > At 03:37 PM 4/15/02 +0200, you wrote:
> > >I am using TR for so2r CW and writelog for SSB, because of voice keyer
> > >symplicity...
> >
> >
> > Ted, you might want to look at the freeware package SBDVP. It
integrates
> > very tightly with TR and uses a SB-16 or similar sound card. The best
> part
> > is that all of the keystrokes of TR of TR work just as on CW - for
> example,
> > when running, you type in a station's callsign, dupe with the spacebar,
> say
> > his callsign and hit Enter. The program sends your exchange to him. You
> > type in his exchange for you and hit [Enter] again, and the program
sends
> > the QSL message. The only thing it won't do is voice callsigns and
serial
> > numbers from typed input, but that is mostly an academic advantage, and
> > Writelog doesn't do that anyway, does it?
> >
> > 73, Pete N4ZR
> >
> > Check out the World HF
> > Contest Station Database at
> > www.pvrc.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Wed Apr 17 13:39:57 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
References: <Springmail.0994.1019003831.0.22034700@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <005a01c1e5f3$d6c23530$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
As far as UBNs were mentioned I might say that I noticed quite a few -B
calls in our ES9C M/M UBN report that were actually absolutely fine and
existing calls and had been worked by many stations - 30, 40, or even more.
There was seemingly no reason to determine them -B (no Wn or anything). I
know for sure some of them were OK QSOs as I even remember them. Like my
first QSO on 20m -
1 -B ly3bh(3) ly3by(1224)ww ly3bx(850)n ly3be(644)ww ly3bg(108) w3bh(2)
It's a well-known contester from LY and we even chatted a few words in the
beginning of the contest. He has only made a few QSOs as I suspect he worked
in some M/S team maybe...
Another example on 20m:
2183 -B f8btq(17) f8bqq(552)h f8bdq(21) f8bvq(8) hb9btq(147) py7btq(6)
and on 10m:
269 -B ea8zc(5) ea8zs(4250)ww ea8zz(12) ea8jc(7)
It is a bit irritating actually, don't know if anybody else has noticed
it...
73
Tonno
ES5TV
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Wed Apr 17 09:49:11 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you on this reflector because you like contesitng?
Message-ID: <000501c1e60e$465cc4e0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Are you a contest club member?
Guess you like contesting, huh?
Did you know there is a club competition category in the Florida QSO Party?
Well..now you do, as a matter of fact, here are the results of the 2,001
club competition for US Clubs outside of Florida:
US Clubs
CLUB SCORE ENTRANTS QTH
1 Mad River RC 231,604 5 MI/OH/IN
2 Society of Midwest Contesters 215,076 5 IL/IN/MO
3 Frankford RC 170,244 3 PA/DE
4 Western New York DX Assn 95,424 1 NY
5 Stanford Univ ARC 90,768 1 CA
6 Southern California Contest Club 69,534 2 CA
7 Univ of ID ARC 62,656 1 ID
8 Northern California Contest Club 51,656 2 CA/NV
9 Texas DX Society 44,880 1 TX
10 Carolina DX Assn 36,432 1 NC
11 Carl Hayden 27,692 2 AZ
12 Oklahoma DX Assn 21,504 1 OK
13 Heartland DX Assn 16,192 2 NE
14 Southeast Contest Club 13,700 3 GA/AL
15 Potomac Valley Radio Club 13,416 1 NC
16 Yankee Clipper Contest Club 9,506 1 MA
17 Northern Arizona DX Assn 9,400 1 AZ
18 Central Texas DX and Contest Club 5,808 1 TX
19 NC State Univ 1,924 1 NC
20 Univ of Chicago ARC 770 1 IL
21 Metro DX Club 646 1 IL
22 Motor City DX Club 108 1 MI
Here are the results from the DX clubs outside of the US
DX Clubs
CLUB SCORE ENTRANTS QTH
1 Kaunas Univ. of Technology RC 42,140 1 LY
2 RSGB 29,410 1 G
3 Top of Europe Contesters 3,950 3 SM
4 Radio Club Uruguay 1,880 1 CX
5 Lithuanian DX Group 144 1 LY
Note that the Kaunas University score is 10th among the non-FL clubs
submitting scores, and that score was from long time FQP supporter Gedas,
LY3BA - due to poor conditions he only worked 57 of the 67 counties this
past year, that's right LY - Lithuania - tope European scorer M0SDX only
missed 2 counties on CW!
....also note that sometimes only one score is being submitted by a contest
club...even if you only get on for a few hours please submit your score for
your club - this is an aspect of the FQP yet to mature - I would love to see
that happen! Note that many of the contest clubs with newer members are
using the state QSO Parties as training grounds for the "majors" - why not
make the FQP one of those opportunities? We also have School competition
and Novice/Tech categories! The Floirda COntest Group exists to promote
contesting - anything we can do to help you promote contesting - we would
love to help other contest clubs do same!
The FQP is a good contest for contesters - why do I say that?
Because the contest rules were written by, the predominance of operators
are, and results are compiled by
CONTESTERS
This year marks the fifth year of sponsorship of the FQP by the Florida
Contest Group. As a contest club we know what contesters like...and we try
and offer it up...if your having fun we're having fun!
I encourage all contesters to get on and send in a score for their club -
there are many awards available in the FQP including the club competition.
Spend a little while cruising the FQP website - read the excellent write-ups
of the contest by logchecker and two time returning WRTC 1st place team
member K1TO....this is definitely NOT our Dad's State QSO Party!
Good ops - snappy exchanges - and no rotor spinning!
Go on, go to the website - its great reading - click on your state record
and see the opportunity for you to own a state record!
Go there and study up - after all the Florida QSO Party is only 10 days
away!
We have commitments for the activation on all but 6 Florida counties with
three mobile teams yet to check in with their routes (yes, this info is on
the website, too!) I feel safe in saying that once again a sweep of the 67
Florida Counties will be possible in the FQP....
Surf on over to:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp/
If you love contests, you'll love the FQP! Would I steer you wrong? C'mon
get - on - I'll let you work me in Sweepstakes this November :-)
73,
Jim White, K4OJ
aka one of the K4FCG/M team once a year!
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Wed Apr 17 10:12:21 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ron D. Rossi)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
In-Reply-To: <00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
Message-ID: <200204171312.JAA25908@johnpaul.btv.ibm.com>
>>>"Tadej Mezek, S51TA" said:
>
> HI!
>
> I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is not
> put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and the
> audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
This is sound card dependent. I run my heil into my soundcard whose output
goes right to the radio. I run SBDVP with TR and I can record messages on the
fly...truly a wonderful thing. The mic however is not muted on TX of a
recorded message.
Who knows...there just may be improvements in the future.
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron rossi(kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From k3lr at k3lr.com Wed Apr 17 09:36:26 2002
From: k3lr@k3lr.com (Tim Duffy K3LR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UPDATE Dayton Contest Dinner 2002
Message-ID: <3CBD7A5A.34C9B6ED@k3lr.com>
******Tickets are selling very fast. Do not delay your order.******
UPDATE!!!! We are honored to have Joe Taylor, K1JT as our featured
dinner speaker this year.
Joe was awarded the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1993 and is also a noted
VHF Contest enthusiast.
The North Coast Contesters are pleased to announce:
The 10th Annual Dayton Contest Dinner
Tickets are on sale NOW.
Master of Ceremonies is CQ Magazine Contest Editor and
CQ Contest Hall of Fame member, John Dorr, K1AR
The 2002 Contest Hall of Fame Induction's will be formally announced by
the CQ WorldWide Contest Director and CQ Contest Hall of Fame member,
Bob Cox, K3EST.
Several WRTC 2002 activities are planned.
The dinner will be held on Saturday night, May 18, 2002 at 6:30 PM:
Cash bar opens at 5:30 PM.
Located at the Crowne Plaza Hotel (Official Contest Hotel)
5th and Jefferson Streets (Next to the Convention Center)
Dayton (Downtown), Ohio in the VAN CLEVE BALLROOM
Menu: Prime Rib of Beef, Potato, vegetables, rolls, chocolate fudge
cake, choice of beverage, coffee, tea or iced tea.
*** Vegetarian menu available by request at the dinner.
Price is $30.00 per person.
**** SEATING IS LIMITED TO 300, SO ORDER YOUR TICKETS EARLY ****
Seating is random and is not reserved. Tables are set in rounds or 8.
All dinner ticket orders are handled exclusively by Craig Clark, W1JCC
at:
Radioware and Radio Bookstore
PO Box 209
Rindge, NH 03461
http://www.radio-ware.com
You can place your order by calling:
Monday through Friday from 10 AM to 6 PM eastern USA time.
1-800-457-7373
1-603-899-6957 for International
or by FAX 1-603-899-6826 24 hours
You can also EMAIL your orders to: nx1g@monad.net
Visa, Mastercard, American Express. Sorry no COD orders.
EMAILs must include charge card + number, callsign and return address
information.
Tickets will be sent via First Class US Mail no later than May 7, 2002.
Please allow plenty of time for your tickets to arrive before you leave
for Dayton.
Radioware and Radio Bookstore is not responsible for tickets lost in the
mail.
*** Special thanks to Craig Clark, W1JCC for once again handling the
tickets ***
Deadline for ticket orders is May 6, 2002. NO EXCEPTIONS
There will be no tickets at the door.
Many contest operators from around the world attend this event. If you
enjoy radio contesting, you do not want to miss this dinner.
We expect a quick sell out. Order your tickets early!
73!
Tim K3LR
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Wed Apr 17 10:49:11 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Room space available?
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJCEBEECAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Now that I've retired from work, I have time to finally attend a Dayton
Hamvention.
Of course, no room (I tried calling at 8:15am that fateful day).
Does anyone at the Crowne Plaza have available floor space in their room
they can share?
I will pay my portion of the room, obviously.
I have a sleeping bag.
I know some cowboy poetry.
I don't smoke and I don't know N5RP.
73,
dale, kg5u
>From i4jmy at iol.it Wed Apr 17 19:06:49 2002
From: i4jmy@iol.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?i4jmy@iol.it?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] =?iso-8859-1?Q?UBN?=
Message-ID: <GUPZFD$0C7EB579BF04EA4CF7BE3235BFF8A588@iol.it>
Checked UBN fles of last WWDX SSB.
Found removed QSOs and mults.
Used Writelog, all contest digitally recorded and easy to target and
listen to verify each single doubt.
A number of bad QSO is instead Ok, but who knows if the other guy
didn't forget to log or lost the qso with us typing wrong and the
erasing with no memory...
OK also for the unavoidable limits of the checking system, nothing is
perfect.
Finally I like this checking way, also when good QSOs becomes a
penalty, each medicine isn't "panacea" and has it's side effects.
Thanks CQ and WWDX contest committee for the big job and improvements,
now it's thousand times better than what it was before and what happens
isn't their sin.
What I don't like at all is instead to have discovered a particular
mult & country and zone removed in 3 bands (80, 40 & 10).
I'm talking about a very known MultiOp top contest station that entered
in our log probably with
his "free_run_hunting_fox_illegal_same_band_station" since it did
breaking our pile up (an easy to check thing when a record is
available) and then removed the QSO, by purpose, I don't want to
question why.
That's all folks, and I'll sleep fine in any case.
73,
Mauri I4JMY (IR4T)
PS Do not ask me who that station is, if I didn't write here, it means
I don't want to tell.
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Wed Apr 17 14:31:38 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Helvetia (HB9) contest and FQP
Message-ID: <ba.24841380.29ef0b7a@aol.com>
Hello Gang,
I am appending a message from Urs, HB9ABO, a good friend of mine whom I met
on the 3B7RF DXpedition in 1998. Urs and I have been corresponding to
coordinate, as best we can, Qso's between participants in the FQP and the
Helvetia (HB9) contest which have overlapping times.
Here is the HB9 contest info from Urs:
"The 1600 - 0200 UTC period of your FQP coincides with
the first part of our Helvetia 26 contest.
HB9 stations send:
RS(T) QSO No, Canton
Where Canton is one of
ZH BE LU UR SZ OW NW GL ZG FR SO SH
BS BL AR AI GR SG AG TG TI VD VS NE GE JU
Those who will think of, will add "DX" at the end:
eg. 579123 AR DX
Foreign stations send RST and QSO Number."
Urs sent this info about HB9O which I thought would be of interest:
"Also I am still doing some work with the Swiss Humanitary
Aid Unit's specialized group CommunicationS.
HB9BXE, HB9BQW, HB9BQI are in a group of about two dozen
hams who studied then realized a complete renewal of the
Ham radio station at the Swiss Museum of Transport - HB9O.
They raised funds of more than CHF 100'000 and the new
station is now almost complete. As a member of the newly
created operating group I am now busy with instructing operators
coming from all parts of the country.
There are five working places at HB9O:
- "Individual": Terminals of all antennas, 230 V, 13.6 VDC, control
of all rotators. This place enables a ham to bring his own equipment
with him to use it at HB9O.
- ATV: Amateur Television (Reception of Satellite Signals)
- VHF/UHF: well - repeater traffic, hi. Be sure, before long I will
install a CW key there too!
- Digital VHF/UHF/HF All digital modes, spectators can watch QSOs
on large screens
- HF: FT920, good old TR7, CW/SSB
Only one of this places will be active at any time.
The station will also be on the web and there are two interactive
consoles where the spectators can see and hear "what is amateur
radio?".
So I am rather busy, travelling three times to Lucerne a week
and at home writing and updating the station's operator's manual...
bcnu on contest!
73, Urs, HB9ABO
Tnx & 73, George, K5KG/K4FQP
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
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>From AA4NC at aol.com Wed Apr 17 17:55:48 2002
From: AA4NC@aol.com (AA4NC@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
Message-ID: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
Bill,
Don't feel like the lone ranger. I have given up waiting for CQ magazine
contest plaques that never arrived dating back to 1984! Some of these were
multiop plaques that I paid for to get copies for myself and other operators.
I feel lucky to even get a paper certificate from a CQ contest! Most of these
also seem to get lost in the same black hole with the plaques. I guess they
figure that most people are too busy calculating UBN statistics to notice that
they never get their "awards" for CQ contests.
We just have to look at N1ND and crew at ARRL to see how it SHOULD be done!
73,
Will
>From je1cka at jzap.com Thu Apr 18 12:05:22 2002
From: je1cka@jzap.com (Tack Kumagai)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] JIDX Email-Log received List
Message-ID: <200204180205.LAA00588@ne.nal.go.jp>
I have uploaded past and current JIDX contest email-log received list to
the following URL
http://je1cka.jzap.com/jidx/index.html
http://je1cka.jzap.com/jidx/2002-hfcw-log-list.html
will update twice a week
---------
JIDX contest committee chairman
Tack Kumagai JE1CKA/KH0AM
Email: jidx-chairman@ne.nal.go.jp
http://je1cka.jzap.com/jidx/
>From thompson at mindspring.com Wed Apr 17 22:58:13 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NIL on 40m SSB split
References: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBA9A@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
<00c101c1e5ab$a89aa540$0500a8c0@swift>
Message-ID: <012501c1e67e$9f613420$348156d1@default>
Two problems can occur in working split on 40 (even in just S&P operation).
1. Timing of reply error. Here a Dx station gives a report that you think
is for you but its for another station.
2. The false duplicate contact. This is a problem that occurs with the
Dx station but can occur with a W/VE running stations as well. Often the
Dx station is listening on a frequency (say 7215) but at any given time
there are several others listening on or about the same frequency. So you
give a report to say IK3XXX and he logs it correctly but HB9AAA also logs
the QSO thinking you are working him. Later you call HB9AAA and he says
"work b4."
This just happened to me in my 1 hour run during the WPX SSB. I spent 30
minutes S&Ping and 30 minutes running. Toward the end of my S&P operation I
called a semi rare station and got "worked before." At least I knew that I
was already in his log. Now the problem for the serious competitor
is to correct this and get in the log properly.
Now how do you minimize these mistakes? The best way is to say the Dx
stations call as you call him. If the other DX station hears this he or
she will not log you by mistake. Make sure the station repeats your call
or clearly gives your call. If there is ANY uncertainty ask for a repeat
and confirmation!
In running make sure you say the stations call clearly (one rule is to stay
with the same phonetics yours and his!!!) so you get the correct station to
log you. I hear Dxpeditions talking too fast or never completing the call
before QRZ and I can guess at the duplicates this causes. One other rule is
to give your complete call. I call this the N6RJ/HB9TL rule. Let the Dx
ask for a couple of letters.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From k8cc at comcast.net Thu Apr 18 01:25:17 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (Dave Pruett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Michigan QSO Party
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020418000015.00a3c9e0@mail.comcast.net>
This coming weekend is the Michigan QSO Party, sponsored by the Mad River
Radio Club. Complete rules can be found on the MRRC web site
http://www.mrrc.net, but here are the basics:
Begins: 1600 UTC - 20 April 2002
Ends: 0400 UTC - 21 April 2002
A station can be worked once per band-mode (CW/SSB) on 80-10
meters. Non-MI stations work MI stations. MI stations work anyone. MI
mobile stations can be worked again when they change counties.
Exchange: MI stations send QSO number and county. Non-MI stations send QSO
number and state/province, or "DX" for non-W/VE.
Multipliers: Counted once per mode (CW/SSB). MI stations count MI counties
(83), states (49) and VE provinces (58). Non-MI stations count MI counties.
Classes: Single-op (high, low and QRP power), multi-operator and mobile
(100W only).
Logs should be submitted within 30 days to mqp@contesting.com or via postal
mail to: MRRC, c/o Dave Pruett, K8CC, 2727 Harris Road, Ypsilanti, MI 48198.
Contest configuration files for the MiQP are available for NA, TRLog and
WriteLog. A demo version of the NA Contest Logging Program which supports
MiQP and certain other state QSO parties is available for free from the
DATOM Engineering web site at http://www.datomonline.com.
Since the MiQP contest format and rules were streamlined in 1999, activity
has increased every year. For the past two years, all 83 MI counties were
on the air through a combination of mobiles and home stations. For 2002,
there will be least ten well-equipped mobile stations out roaming the MI
countryside. We'll publish a list of calls and the counties they plan to
activate tomorrow evening. Also, a number of club stations, including the
well-known W8SH at Michigan State University and perhaps W8YY at Michigan
Tech plan to be QRV.
73,
Dave Pruett, K8CC
>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Thu Apr 18 13:14:30 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why can't I get SBDVP to record?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION> <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
<5.1.0.14.2.20020415170919.05091ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
<00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
<007f01c1e5ec$9eb83740$0801a8c0@mail.ur.ru>
Message-ID: <00ed01c1e6bd$e97ff890$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Guys, as you are successfully using it - can you give me an advice? I am
quite desperate already. I have WIN 98 and E-Dio SC4000 (ALS4000) SB Pro
compatible PCI soundcard - Win and DOS drivers installed.
I can start SBDVP and TR both in WIN or in MS-DOS but both ways allow me
only to play the example message under F10. I can not record. It creates an
empty file when I try to record with CTRL-F1. Maybe I have some conflict
between DOS and WIN soundcard dirvers, I don't know.
I can record sound files with Windows Sound Recorder though. Can I somehow
convert the WAV files into DVP files and record under Windows???
73
Tonno
ES5TV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Sokolov" <ua9cdc@mail.ur.ru>
To: "Tadej Mezek, S51TA" <s51ta@volja.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> > I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is
> not
> > put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and
> the
> > audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
>
> I am prepared to demonstrate you on the air that the audio that comes from
> SBDVP is as good or better then that coming from the mike. I have been
using
> SBDVP for the last 3-4 years and noticed that my CQ attracts more callers
if
> sent with SBDVP were the audio can be preprocessed.
>
> > even switch the mic off when transmit. And recording of messages is much
> > easier.....like k1ea dvk board.
>
> Recording with SBDVP is Ctl-F# then play it back by pressing that F#
> Just wonder what can be easier and more intuitive?
>
>
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
> >
> >
> > Ted, s51ta
> >
> >
> > Otherwise I was always TR fan....maybe something can be done by Tree.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
> > To: "Tadej Mezek, S51TA" <s51ta@volja.net>
> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> >
> >
> > > At 03:37 PM 4/15/02 +0200, you wrote:
> > > >I am using TR for so2r CW and writelog for SSB, because of voice
keyer
> > > >symplicity...
> > >
> > >
> > > Ted, you might want to look at the freeware package SBDVP. It
> integrates
> > > very tightly with TR and uses a SB-16 or similar sound card. The best
> > part
> > > is that all of the keystrokes of TR of TR work just as on CW - for
> > example,
> > > when running, you type in a station's callsign, dupe with the
spacebar,
> > say
> > > his callsign and hit Enter. The program sends your exchange to him.
You
> > > type in his exchange for you and hit [Enter] again, and the program
> sends
> > > the QSL message. The only thing it won't do is voice callsigns and
> serial
> > > numbers from typed input, but that is mostly an academic advantage,
and
> > > Writelog doesn't do that anyway, does it?
> > >
> > > 73, Pete N4ZR
> > >
> > > Check out the World HF
> > > Contest Station Database at
> > > www.pvrc.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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>From coaching at barrybettman.com Thu Apr 18 03:51:50 2002
From: coaching@barrybettman.com (Barry Bettman, PCC- Success Coaching
[mailto:coaching@barrybettman.com])
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dayton roomate
Message-ID: <3CBE9736.B331EB22@barrybettman.com>
I am looking for a roommate and nonsmoking room to share for May 16th
Thursday, May 17th Friday, and May 18th Saturday at Dayton. Please
contact:
Barry K6ST
coaching@barrybettman.com
650-726-1205
>From k4ww at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 07:32:54 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004301c1e6c4$665c7b80$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
AA4NC@aol.com wrote, in response to W4AN: "I feel lucky to even get a paper
certificate from a CQ contest!"
Yes I am a WPX RTTY Plaque sponsor! Having never been fortunate enough to
have won a plaque, obviously I haven't received one! I have received a few
certificates, and none of them were received in less than a year from the
particular contest! I'm more concerned with the omission of my log for 2001
WPX without any explanation or response from the contest manager? In almost
every contest, I read in the soapbox comments "how much fun was had"! While
I agree 100% with "if the awards are going to be advertised, they should be
provided", if y'all are in CQ sponsored contest(s) for the fun, why are
y'all concerned about the awards? There are far too many reasons as to the
delay or non-receipt of advertised contest award(s), but, IMHO, the primary
reason is "too much for too few with too little"! From what little I know
about the CQ award(s) program, it is a "bureaucratic nightmare", of which I
want no part of! Maybe the time has come for CQ to "fess up" and admit that
they will no longer provide ANY contest(s) awards? After all, "don't we
enter just for the fun of it"?
C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
>From n4zr at contesting.com Thu Apr 18 07:42:03 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
In-Reply-To: <200204171312.JAA25908@johnpaul.btv.ibm.com>
References: <00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020418063801.05e60ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 09:12 AM 4/17/02 -0400, Ron wrote:
> >>>"Tadej Mezek, S51TA" said:
> >
> > HI!
> >
> > I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is not
> > put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and the
> > audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
>
>This is sound card dependent. I run my heil into my soundcard whose output
>goes right to the radio. I run SBDVP with TR and I can record messages on the
>fly...truly a wonderful thing. The mic however is not muted on TX of a
>recorded message.
>
>Who knows...there just may be improvements in the future.
On at least some soundcards, full-duplex operation (whereby the microphone
audio is live when the sound card is running under SBDVP) is set up on the
Device Manager. That's where I enabled it on my SB-16.
The documentation for SBDVP, while full and technically correct, is not
very well organized to guide the user in setting it up and using it with
TR. If there is interest, I'll write up a brief "getting started"
supplement and post it on the web.
73, Pete N4ZR
>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 18 06:30:31 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
Message-ID:
<20020418053032.24594.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Wed, 17 April 2002, "Tonno Vahk" wrote
>
> As far as UBNs were mentioned I might say that I
noticed quite a few -B
> calls in our ES9C M/M UBN report that were actually
absolutely fine and
> existing calls and had been worked by many stations -
30, 40, or even more.
Just because 30 or 40 people copied the same call,
doesn't mean it's the "right" call. I've listened in
awe to some stations giving their callsigns with the
same (often highly-accented) phonetics over and over.
When pressed about a specific letter, they clarify with
different phonetics that reveal a different callsign.
In fact, several times a contest I find myself calling
a station, getting told by him that I'm a dupe, then
hear the station use a different set of phonetics that
changes his call. (This happens with spotted calls a
LOT.)
-Mike N2MG
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Thu Apr 18 18:05:05 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
References:
<20020418053032.24594.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <018f01c1e6e2$0af65e00$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Yes, of course, I am not 100% sure that those calls were actually right and
I completly agree with you. I am just wondering based on what were they
determined BAD as there was no WN and the call is issued and active
according to all callbooks and databases and he did not submit the log.
73
Tonno
ES5TV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
> On Wed, 17 April 2002, "Tonno Vahk" wrote
>
> >
> > As far as UBNs were mentioned I might say that I
> noticed quite a few -B
> > calls in our ES9C M/M UBN report that were actually
> absolutely fine and
> > existing calls and had been worked by many stations -
> 30, 40, or even more.
>
> Just because 30 or 40 people copied the same call,
> doesn't mean it's the "right" call. I've listened in
> awe to some stations giving their callsigns with the
> same (often highly-accented) phonetics over and over.
> When pressed about a specific letter, they clarify with
> different phonetics that reveal a different callsign.
>
> In fact, several times a contest I find myself calling
> a station, getting told by him that I'm a dupe, then
> hear the station use a different set of phonetics that
> changes his call. (This happens with spotted calls a
> LOT.)
>
>
> -Mike N2MG
>
> ________________________________________________
> PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
> http://www.peoplepc.com
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>From wally at el-soft.com Thu Apr 18 19:21:49 2002
From: wally@el-soft.com (Valeri Stefanov)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] BADs in UBN
Message-ID: <004701c1e6f5$27947020$cd1038d4@wally>
Same observed here at LZ8T as with ES9C.
OK1KH is an existing station and I work him regularily in contests. He has
quite potent signal on top band so mistake is in fact difficult to be made.
Another example is a QSO with S50S, too.
Nobody is perfect !
73's de Wally LZ2CJ & LZ8T & YM3LZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 18 09:25:27 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 18Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204181525.g3IFPR522298@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 18Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530
WX5S(@W6YX) 4553 1078 48 10,743,348 NCCC
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
NT6K 2254 845 48 4,173,455 NCCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K6LRN 333 255 208,640 NCCC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
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USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
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USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
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USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
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USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
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USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
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USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
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USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
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USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
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USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
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USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
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USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
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USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 18 09:27:42 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
18Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204181527.g3IFRgL22307@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 18Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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Non-USA M/M HP
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
VE7SCC 2120 0 48 4,406,904 Coquitlam Amateur Ra
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Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
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Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
P40V 6610 1251 48 25,617,978 NCCC
3V8BB 5868 1238 48 23,900,828 YU CC
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCF
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
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Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
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Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
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Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
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Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
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Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
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Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCF
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
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Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 542 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
VE5SF 628 366 9 543,510
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
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Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCF
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Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
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Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCF
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
YT1RA 1227 588 36 1,535,268 YU CC
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
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Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
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Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
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Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCF
YT9X(YZ1KA) 1346 629 36 1,697,042 YU CC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
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Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
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Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
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Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
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Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 18 09:48:00 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 JIDX and EU Sprint Summaries 18Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020418084413.00aab500@pop3.eskimo.com>
Combined 2002 JIDX and EU Sprint Summaries 18Apr2002
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: jidx-hfcw@ne.nal.go.jp
Mail logs to:
JIDX HFCW Contest
c/o Five-Nine Magazine
PO Box 59
Kamata, Tokyo 144
Japan
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
GM4YXI 520 127 14 82,931 North of Scotland Co
AE0Q(@K0HM) 452 115 64,400 Grand Mesa
N0AC(@N0NI) 427 110 30 54,780
OH1F(OH1NOA) 326 100 12 36,100 CCF
N2ED 255 96 7 29,184 FRC
K3WW 224 81 6 21,060 FRC
N6ZZ 192 82 20,910 SCCC
N9RV 161 70 3 15,190 SMC
VE7FO 120 70 9 10,780
N4GG 43 34 4 1,972 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
HB9ARF 259 106 37,630
WN6K 238 88 21 30,008 SCCC
SV1CIB 109 66 9,174
VE3BUC 86 47 4 4,042
WA6BOB 35 33 2 1,155
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/10 LP
OM5AW 466 44 10 20,504
NT6K 127 41 4 10,414 NCCC
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 18Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
9A7P(9A6XX) 126 3 126 WWYC
EI/G4BUO 32 1 32
>From K1AR at aol.com Thu Apr 18 12:54:49 2002
From: K1AR@aol.com (K1AR@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plaque-gate
Message-ID: <17f.6fe1404.29f04649@aol.com>
As the guy responsible for CQ WW trophies, I can only comment on my part of
this puzzle. N8BJQ will need to respond to the WPX issues.
As for the CQ WW, we are essentially caught up. The last batch of 2000
trophies are at the engraver awaiting completion and shipment. As soon as I
have the final results for last year's contest, I will be moving forward
immediately to produce them. So, we're actually in reasonable shape.
The issue with the KH7R M/M combined awards is that they are funded and
produced locally by the boys at Alpha/Ehrhorn. I've obviously assumed
erroneously that this was happening and will fix it immediately. I'm sure
that with the business transition there, this is one thing that fell through
the cracks.
If there are other problems with CQWW trophies in particular, I am not aware
of them and encourage you to bring them to my attention.
Please accept my apology for any problems.
73 John, K1AR
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Thu Apr 18 13:32:17 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
<004301c1e6c4$665c7b80$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
Message-ID: <007901c1e6f6$9b4ad300$ab2745cf@default>
I can only speak for the CQ 160 Contests but I do know getting out
certificates and plaques is a chore.
I have some help and the results are mixed. Plaque Sponsors won't pay up or
quit amateur radio or even become SK. If I have problems with the CQ 160
Contests I know the WPX and WW must struggle. There is no national
association with paid workers to get out plaques and certificates and I
always ask the question Why do sponsors pay for these plaques and often not
for volunteer run contests such as CQ.
Now as to K4WW's complaint about being left out of the results with no
comments...this happens due to too much reliance on computer checking. I
have lost logs due to one log overlaying another and several that
disappeared. I have a check in log that allows me to provide claimed
scores and then I move the logs to a final file that is updated when the
checking is done. There are bugs in the best log checking programs (I
debugged 5 in the CQ 160 cabrillo checking software last year). I
personally check the top logs for missed errors and possible corrections. I
also check major logs if the score changes (lowers usually) by more than 3%.
I also make all decisions about DQ (usually too many unverified QSOs). I
feel sorry for K4WW as I know contest efforts deserve better. But this is
my reasoning and even in 1400 entries I still get a few lost, missed, wrong
location, wrong classification.
The WW and WPX with 6 to 10,000 entries are much more difficult and we need
the computer to help us do a better job of assuring the scores are correct
the real winners identified!
73 Dave K4JRB
> Yes I am a WPX RTTY Plaque sponsor! Having never been fortunate enough to
> have won a plaque, obviously I haven't received one! I have received a few
> certificates, and none of them were received in less than a year from the
> particular contest! I'm more concerned with the omission of my log for
2001
> WPX without any explanation or response from the contest manager? In
almost
> every contest, I read in the soapbox comments "how much fun was had"!
While
> I agree 100% with "if the awards are going to be advertised, they should
be
> provided", if y'all are in CQ sponsored contest(s) for the fun, why are
> y'all concerned about the awards? There are far too many reasons as to the
> delay or non-receipt of advertised contest award(s), but, IMHO, the
primary
> reason is "too much for too few with too little"! From what little I know
> about the CQ award(s) program, it is a "bureaucratic nightmare", of which
I
> want no part of! Maybe the time has come for CQ to "fess up" and admit
that
> they will no longer provide ANY contest(s) awards? After all, "don't we
> enter just for the fun of it"?
> C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From i4ufh at libero.it Thu Apr 18 21:29:48 2002
From: i4ufh@libero.it (Fabio I4UFH)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00ca01c1e707$05b2b630$c293623e@i4ufh>
Still Waiting IQ4T CQWW SSB 1997 1st EU SO 15 , IJ4R WPX 1991 MS 1st EU
73 Fabio I4UFH
----- Original Message -----
From: <AA4NC@aol.com>
To: ""Bill Fisher, W4AN"" <w4an@contesting.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
> Bill,
>
> Don't feel like the lone ranger. I have given up waiting for CQ magazine
contest plaques that never arrived dating back to 1984! Some of these were
multiop plaques that I paid for to get copies for myself and other
operators.
>
> I feel lucky to even get a paper certificate from a CQ contest! Most of
these also seem to get lost in the same black hole with the plaques. I guess
they figure that most people are too busy calculating UBN statistics to
notice that they never get their "awards" for CQ contests.
>
> We just have to look at N1ND and crew at ARRL to see how it SHOULD be
done!
>
> 73,
>
> Will
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From ab0mv at ix.netcom.com Thu Apr 18 14:03:16 2002
From: ab0mv@ix.netcom.com (Merrimon Crawford Pladsen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ certificates
In-Reply-To: <007901c1e6f6$9b4ad300$ab2745cf@default>
References: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
<004301c1e6c4$665c7b80$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
Message-ID: <E16yHCR-0002by-00@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net>
I know people still waiting for certificates/plaques from 1999 CQ contests.
4 years is too long. Those responsible will not respond to repeated
questions via email or snail mail. Even a simple response that those
responsible & CQ contest committee are aware of the delay and are trying to
do something about it would be better than refusing any response to
certificate/plaque winners!
73
Merri AB0MV
>From jsschuster at snet.net Thu Apr 18 19:23:58 2002
From: jsschuster@snet.net (jsschuster)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Bed available...Visalia
Message-ID: <3CBF0F3E.B5F3AFD6@snet.net>
I have an extra bed in my Holiday Inn room if anyone would like to
share costs. JACK w1wef@arrl.net
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Apr 18 20:39:24 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST QST de K4FCG K4FCG - New Catagories! - New Plaques!
Message-ID: <021501c1e732$460fb4a0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
New for this year's Florida QSO Party - which is now only 9 days away - will
be a
SWL Category
And we have added a new plaque to the awards program (tnx K4RX):
Top Single-Op Mobile CW-Only
There are alot of opportunites to receive beautiful FQP certificates and a
very extensive plaque program...
If you haven't done so yet - go to the FQP website - there are the records -
the results - and EVERYTHING you wanna know about the hottest QSO Party in
April - The FQP! Click on:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
Florida hams are asked to please register with NS4W as soon as possible -
(see the county activation page and click on his call) wiht YOUR county
activation plans....this is a big help for guys looking to complete their
Florida Counties for CHC and also an aid to the competitors as far as
knowing who will be going to which county, we try to activate every county
with more than one ham - even if that means multiple mobile teams...by the
way their tentative routes are also on there!
Its CW, its SSB and its 10 - 40 meters on both Saturday and Sunday....did I
mention that it is only
9 Days Until FQP 2K2?
Join the PARTY, the Florida QSO Party!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Apr 18 21:07:08 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FLASH THIS JUST IN Re: QST QST de K4FCG K4FCG - New
Catagories! - New Plaques!
Message-ID: <026c01c1e736$25a97f80$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
This just in to FQP central
STOP THE PRESSES!
Yet another catagory has been added to the FQP Plaque program...
Thanks to sponosrship by N4PN we now have a new catagory for the FQP plaque
program...
Top Multi-Op Mobile CW
(can anyone do battle with K1TO and N4TO?)
The FQP keeps growing - find out why on Aptil 27 and 28 - last years logs
received reporteed
28,978 QSOs
were made in the 2,001 Florida QSO Party.....
K4OJ
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:39 PM
Subject: QST QST de K4FCG K4FCG - New Catagories! - New Plaques!
> New for this year's Florida QSO Party - which is now only 9 days away -
will
> be a
>
> SWL Category
>
>
> And we have added a new plaque to the awards program (tnx K4RX):
>
> Top Single-Op Mobile CW-Only
>
>
> There are alot of opportunites to receive beautiful FQP certificates and a
> very extensive plaque program...
>
> If you haven't done so yet - go to the FQP website - there are the
records -
> the results - and EVERYTHING you wanna know about the hottest QSO Party in
> April - The FQP! Click on:
>
> http://www.qsl.net/fqp
>
> Florida hams are asked to please register with NS4W as soon as possible -
> (see the county activation page and click on his call) wiht YOUR county
> activation plans....this is a big help for guys looking to complete their
> Florida Counties for CHC and also an aid to the competitors as far as
> knowing who will be going to which county, we try to activate every county
> with more than one ham - even if that means multiple mobile teams...by the
> way their tentative routes are also on there!
>
> Its CW, its SSB and its 10 - 40 meters on both Saturday and Sunday....did
I
> mention that it is only
>
> 9 Days Until FQP 2K2?
>
> Join the PARTY, the Florida QSO Party!
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, K4OJ
>
> http://www.qsl.net/fqp
>
>
>
>
>From k1ir at designet.com Thu Apr 18 22:25:47 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Welcome K7BV!
Message-ID: <km1zbcrga22vroi.180420022125@designet-jsi>
Fellow contesters,
With thoughts of contest coverage, Logbook of the World, World Amateur Radio
Day [what's that?] and a variety of other subjects weighing heavily on my mind,
I decided to dial up our new ARRL Sales and Marketing man - Dennis
Motschenbacher, K7BV - just to exchange some ideas. We had a great
conversation, and I wanted to let you all know that I see his involvement as a
really positive development. Take a look at the note he sent along following
our conversation.
Welcome and GL, Dennis!
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
FROM: "Motschenbacher, Dennis K7BV" <k7bv@arrl.org>
TO: 'Jim Idelson' <k1ir@designet.com>
DATE: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:13:19 -0400
RE: RE: re[2]: Want to talk?
Jim,
Thanks for the call today. Although, I have only been working at the League
for a little over two weeks, I am already deeply grateful that there are
enthusiastic hams like you who care enough about our hobby to pick up the
telephone and express their well thought out concerns about our hobby with
me. I appreciate you giving me a chance to listen to you, trusting that I
was indeed doing exactly that - listening to you.
Now that I am working inside the walls at the ARRL, I find myself stunned by
the number of different topics that are being dealt with by the staff. Today
I still feel overwhelmed as I rush from office to office, absorbing history,
goals, and activity details for the incredibly diverse spectrum of interests
within amateur radio. It very clear to me that this Sales & Marketing
Manager job will put me in close touch with virtually every department in
the League.
I am making it my personal goal to insure that I work to maintain an open
and accommodating relationship with everyone here and, equally as important,
with the people we serve. I do feel some comfort knowing I do not need to
have all the answers but instead can draw on the vast resource of our
talented membership. I made note of the great marketing ideas you shared
with me and I will make sure the Marketing Team I am in the process of forming
gives them a good round of out-of-the-box discussion
Again, thanks for your call that reinforced this core belief of mine that I
am here to "develop" efforts that bring in additional members and revenues -
people like you will insure that I have an endless list of ideas to develop.
Although I know for sure that I will not be able to please everyone, I
promise you I will never use that as an excuse for not trying.
So...back to reeeally important matters - tell me again what the YCCC
signing bonus is?
73, Dennis Motschenbacher K7BV/1
ARRL Sales & Marketing Manager
860.594.0412
>From jdup at jdupree.com Thu Apr 18 23:03:14 2002
From: jdup@jdupree.com (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #1
Message-ID: <009301c1e746$70c1f190$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Contesters:
This post begins a review of spots from the 2002 WPX SSB contest.
I started looking at spots earlier this year, after the ARRL DX
contests, when I noticed that someone had spotted under my call.
Reviewing the WPX spots, there are patterns, especially from
spots made via IRC/DX Summit.
In the WPX contest, 248 US calls made close to 450 spots via
IRC/DX Summit. 27 of those US calls making spots, or
10.8%, were by inactive calls.
Only a handful of other US inactives were found in thousands
of spots from other nodes and clusters.
DX inactives were much more difficult to determine, because
of conflicting information on the web. I have tried to
err on the side of caution when dealing with those numbers.
Basically the data presented here will show the number of
"unique" spotters - that is, calls that made only one spot
during the contest (and often had never spotted before.)
Along with unique calls, there are calls that are inactive.
Those calls aren't being busted and spotted, but rather the
inactive calls are doing the spotting.
Also, there are spots from calls which never use IRC/DX Summit
to make spots - but for some reason used that to make
a spot of one of these stations.
Sometimes, patterns quickly emerge - such as a string of
spots of the same station on the exact same frequency.
Also, certain letter combinations become obvious because
of their placement on the keyboard. Look for spotting
stations with strings like FGH, GTY, GTF, DRF, HYG and
combinations like that.
This data will not "prove" that a certain station has faked
spots - the spot data will speak for itself and should be
interpreted by everyone on their own. I don't make any
contest rules, nor do I enforce any. This is just what I found.
These spots could be legit, they could be done by a friend, or
even a foe of the station being spotted - all with or without
that station's knowledge.
I do hope people will take the time to calmly evaluate
the data and then draw their own conclusions.
All times are in GMT.
Jamie NS3T
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:03:59 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #2
Message-ID: <009901c1e746$8b2ddc10$0000a398@COMPUTER>
US Inactives-WPX
This is a list of the inactive US calls which made spots in
the 2002 WPX SSB. The calls were checked with both Buckmaster
and the WM7D.net databases.
All of these spots originated from IRC/DX Summit except
for the spots of PY2NDX, which were spotted via a
node in Europe.
The inactive call of the spotter is first, followed by the
call of the station being spotted:
AG6TR (RS0F)
K2FGY (OH1F)
K3IUP (OH1F)
K3SK (RS0F)
K4JHV (UA9YAB)
K5UIP (PY2NDX)
K6LTX (RA0FU)
K8AQW (OH1F)
K8DGH (EA3ELZ)
K8IJL (ER6A)
K9APM (LT1A & LT1F)
KA4OWW (CQ1P)
KB5RT (AL1G)
KD7RDG (PY2NDX)
KF6SAK (PY2NDX)
KM4RT (EA3ELZ)
N4GHY (SV1SL)
W0JIG (NP2N/AG0)
W4RFC (UA9YAB)
W6JGH (TG9AJR)
W6JUD (WP3C)
W7UAS (UA9YAB)
W8GYT (SV1SL)
W8JGX (UA9YAB)
W8NNB (TG9AJR)
W9RSK (RS0F)
WA4DSF (TG9AJR)
WB3ERH (PY2NDX)
WB6WER (OH0V)
WB8ETG (EA3ELZ)
WB8FHG (TG9AJR)
WB8JFH (TG9AJR)
MORE
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:05:10 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #3
Message-ID: <00ac01c1e746$b5bffdf0$0000a398@COMPUTER>
The first example from the 2002 WPX SSB is LV7H.
During the contest, there were 54 spots of LV7H.
34 of those came from DX Summit.
Of those 34 spots, 27 of the spotting calls were
unique - meaning that station only spotted LV7H
during the contest. In fact, only two of these uniques
had previous spots on record.
As many as 18 of those 27 uniques were also inactive
calls, depending on the source (Buckmaster, etc.)
There were no inactive US calls found.
K3DZ 14155 LV7H Sun Mar 31 22:44:00 2002
OH2TR 28667 LV7H Sun Mar 31 18:48:00 2002
4Z5LJ 28544 LV7H Sun Mar 31 17:45:00 2002
IZ3ETV 28515 LV7H Sun Mar 31 15:25:00 2002
ES7DR 28597 LV7H Sun Mar 31 14:29:00 2002
ZS6IR 28530 LV7H Sun Mar 31 13:56:00 2002
F5FTR 28665 LV7H Sun Mar 31 13:14:00 2002
DL5GHY 28566 LV7H Sun Mar 31 12:39:00 2002
SP7FGT 28463 LV7H Sun Mar 31 12:14:00 2002
JA5GDT 21277 LV7H Sun Mar 31 02:25:00 2002
UT1AS 14234.5 LV7H Sun Mar 31 01:29:00 2002
JA5GDT 21277 LV7H Sun Mar 31 02:25:00 2002
UT1AS 14234.5 LV7H Sun Mar 31 01:29:00 2002
IK5DFT 21204 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 19:29:00 2002
ZS5DRF 28553.5 LV7H Sat Mar 30 18:37:00 2002
PY2FYS 28689 LV7H Sat Mar 30 17:11:00 2002
UR5TD 28553 LV7H Sat Mar 30 16:05:00 2002
OH7GH 28429 LV7H Sat Mar 30 12:19:00 2002
OM7M 28485 LV7H Sat Mar 30 12:17:00 2002
EA4DLE 28422 LV7H Sat Mar 30 11:46:00 2002
DL1ERK 28575 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 11:13:00 2002
SP6GTY 28534 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 10:53:00 2002
DL3FTN 14157 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 06:55:00 2002
EA3ARL 14338 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 06:25:00 2002
JF2ERD 21266 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 05:09:00 2002
JA7DHE 28537 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 04:40:00 2002
JA1FDE 21218.5 LV7H CONTET VIA LU7HF Sat Mar 30 01:51
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
In the WPX, there were 17 spots of TG9AJR. A dozen of
those spots were via IRC/DX Summit. Those 12 spots
also produced 12 unique calls. Every one of these
calls has no spots on record other than TG9AJR.
VE4TBD 14142 TG9AJR Sun Mar 31 23:56 2002
WA6DVC 21413 TG9AJR Sun Mar 31 23:43 2002
W6JGH 28306 TG9AJR Sun Mar 31 23:15 2002
WA4DSF 28306 TG9AJR Test Sun Mar 31 23:08 2002
HA3SDF 21185 TG9AJR Sun Mar 31 06:36 2002
WB8FHG 21436 TG9AJR Sat Mar 30 18:49 2002
W8NNB 28707 TG9AJR Test Sat Mar 30 14:44 2002
KC0ADF 28707 TG9AJR Sat Mar 30 14:34 2002
EA3FVB 28707 TG9AJR Sat Mar 30 14:19 2002
WB8JFH 28707 TG9AJR Sat Mar 30 14:02 2002
VE3DFG 28689 TG9AJR Test Sat Mar 30 13:49 2002
LU7FHG 21210 TG9AJR CQ CONTEST WPX Sat Mar 30 06:19 2002
At least six of those calls are inactive.
They include: VE4TBD, W6JGH, WA4DSF, WB8FHG, W8NNB and WB8JFH.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
In the WPX, there were 80 spots of RS0F. Of those, 59 spots
came via IRC/DX Summit. 33 of those 59 calls were uniques -
meaning that station only spotted RS0F during the contest.
For all but two calls, this is the only spot listed
on record by this call.
10-14 of those unique calls were also inactive, depending
on the source (Buckmaster, etc.) Two of those inactive
calls were from the US: AG6TR and W6NHS.
Here are the uniques for RS0F:
KS6T 21370.8 RS0F Sun Mar 31 23:51:00 2002
AD6KA 21370.8 RS0F Sun Mar 31 23:44:00 2002
K3SK 21387 RS0F Sun Mar 31 12:20:00 2002
UT7EE 21387 RS0F Sun Mar 31 12:16:00 2002
9A8M 21387 RS0F Sun Mar 31 12:03:00 2002
G4RDG 21386.9 RS0F Sun Mar 31 12:00:00 2002
JA8DLC 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:52:00 2002
UA9AN 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:43:00 2002
VK4WPX 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:37:00 2002
ON4CSA 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:16:00 2002
ON4CAZ 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:09:00 2002
IZ3WWY 21387 RS0F rusia spase station! Sun Mar 31 10:55
HA1SN 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 10:53:00 2002
YB0DPI 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 09:32:00 2002
OE5RU 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 09:27:00 2002
DL7YD 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 09:18:00 2002
G4RDF 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 08:51:00 2002
DL1GN 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 08:44:00 2002
OK1KMS 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 08:41:00 2002
LZ5Z 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 08:22:00 2002
VE7AVV 21220 RS0F Sun Mar 31 04:43:00 2002
L20E 21220 RS0F Sun Mar 31 04:33:00 2002
K6HRU 21268 RS0F Sun Mar 31 03:43:00 2002
NA7Z 21268 RS0F Sun Mar 31 03:37:00 2002
K7TR 21268 RS0F Sun Mar 31 03:19:00 2002
KR5D 21268 RS0F Sun Mar 31 03:09:00 2002
AG6TR 21304.7 RS0F Sun Mar 31 02:22:00 2002
N2UVR 21304.7 RS0F Sun Mar 31 01:47:00 2002
NA0U 21448.8 RS0F Sun Mar 31 00:07:00 2002
W6NHS 21448.9 RS0F Sun Mar 31 00:00:00 2002
W9RSK 21325 RS0F Sat Mar 30 23:44:00 2002
W6RS 21325 RS0F Sat Mar 30 23:22:00 2002
SP3FR 21415.8 RS0F Sat Mar 30 12:02:00 2002
12 other stations spotted RS0F with their only IRC/
DX Summit spot of the contest - while using a different
node for other WPX spots:
W2GG, AA3B, W3AS, RM6A, DL8AAM, SK6DZ, RL3A, DL2HX,
UA6LGR, YU1RE, RK9CZO and JA5WNH.
MORE
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:06:03 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #4
Message-ID: <00b101c1e746$d53100d0$0000a398@COMPUTER>
The next example, PY2NDX is different from all of the others
presented here. There were 51 WPX spots of PY2NDX.
32 of those spots were made thru a node in Spain.
Of the 28 stations that spotted thru that node, 23 of the
calls were uniques, meaning that they only spotted
PY2NDX during the contest. For many, this is their only
spot on record.
Of those 23 uniques, at least 11 of the calls are inactive.
The US inactives include: WB3ERH, W8TGP, K5UIP and KD7RDG.
Here is the list of unique spotters:
KF4RGB 21349.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 23:58
K9JU 21349.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 23:50:
K9JU 28508.1 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 23:09:
K9JU 21406.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 22:27
UA4JV 14133.8 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 21:48
PA3ERT 14211.3 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 21:08
M0FTY 21327.4 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 19:30
DF4RG 21353.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 19:10
SP4JL 28540 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 18:55
OK1ASG 28673 PY2NDX cq wpx Sun Mar 31 15:11
JA1GIO 21318 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 02:06
JA1DVF 21317.8 PY2NDX wpx Sun Mar 31 01:22
WB3ERH 21317 PY2NDX wpx Sun Mar 31 00:48
W8TGP 28562.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 00:29
K5UIP 28562.5 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 23:52
W9TY 28562.5 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 22:17
DL2JIK 21306.5 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 21:30
W3FG 28331.8 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 20:44
KF9RF 28331.8 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 20:35
KF6SAK 28532 PY2NDX cq wpx Sat Mar 30 19:42
EA4HJE 28559 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 17:13
K4VB 28653.8 PY2NDX wpx Sat Mar 30 14:40
IK2WDH 28650 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 11:09
JA3ESJ 14176 PY2NDX wpx Sat Mar 30 09:49
KD7RDG 14188 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 05:55
Again, all of these spots of PY2NDX were made thru a node
in Spain. That same node is regularly used for spotting by
PY2NDX during non-contest periods. A similar pattern
was observed during the ARRL DX SSB contest.
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
JT1BV
In the WPX SSB, there were 22 spots of JT1BV.
16 of those 22 spots were via IRC/DX Summit.
Those produced 15 "unique" calls:
EA1TI 28480 JT1BV Sun Mar 31 04:50:00 2002
JA1WQL 28525 JT1BV Sun Mar 31 03:30:00 2002
JH5HDA 28485 JT1BV Sun Mar 31 03:21:00 2002
DS2AHI 28485 JT1BV cq Sun Mar 31 03:09:00 2002
JA3ULR 28485 JT1BV test Sun Mar 31 02:50:00 2002
UQ1D 28510 JT1BV Mongolia Sun Mar 31 02:42
EA1WYF 28545 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 09:41:00 2002
IK5VHU 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 08:34:00 2002
RA3SA 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 08:22:00 2002
9A5ST 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 07:44:00 2002
DL1BBR 28400 JT1BV naran u get qsl 0n 40m 4 Sat Mar 30 07:10
YT7TY 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 06:41:00 2002
RZ6BU 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 06:32:00 2002
KC7UP 28605 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 02:58:00 2002
WA6AQQ 28605 JT1BV cq contest! Sat Mar 30 02:49:00
For what it's worth, there were five self-spots for JT1BV as well:
JT1BV 28480.0 JT1BV contest 0205 30 Mar 2002
JT1BV 28485.0 JT1BV 0314 30 Mar 2002
JT1BV 28685.0 JT1BV cq contest!0621 30 Mar 2002
JT1BV 28495.0 JT1BV 0701 30 Mar 2002
JT1BV 28690.0 JT1BV 0733 30 Mar 2002
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
YL7C
In the WPX SSB contest, there were 27 spots of YL7C.
14 stations made 21 spots of YL7C via IRC/DX Summit.
Of those 14 calls, 13 were uniques (several had multiple
spots of YL7C.) As many as 9 of the DX calls could
be inactive.
K6CAL 14238.6 YL7C WPX Sun Mar 31 18:30
W7CZ 14238.6 YL7C WPX Sun Mar 31 18:18
K6CAL 14238.6 YL7C cq Sun Mar 31 17:47
KE4HW 21297.5 YL7C WPX Sun Mar 31 15:12
K7GE 21240 YL7C Sun Mar 31 17:15
PA3KD 14166.3 YL7C LOUD Sun Mar 31 08:55
JA7MMI 28587.7 YL7C Sun Mar 31 08:03
JA5MWE 28537.7 YL7C Sun Mar 31 07:08
K7GE 14164.5 YL7C WPX Sun Mar 31 04:30
YB8QY 14219.9 YL7C LOUD Sat Mar 30 19:11
KE4HW 14243.8 YL7C Sat Mar 30 18:27:
KE4HW 21425.3 YL7C Sat Mar 30 14:21
KE4HW 28564.6 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 12:52
XA2LA 21145.8 YL7C Sat Mar 30 11:27
JA5MWE 21302.6 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 10:35
JF5RJK 28655.8 YL7C Sat Mar 30 09:35
DS5REF 28590 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 09:24
JH6TRC 28590 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 09:02
JA7MMI 28385.6 YL7C LOUD Sat Mar 30 08:27
JA8BBN 28328.2 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 08:12:
MORE
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:06:43 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #5
Message-ID: <00b201c1e746$ed3d0250$0000a398@COMPUTER>
LT1F
During the WPX contest, there were over 130 spots of LT1F.
Of those, 55 spots came via mIRC - those will be the spots
that this data concerns.
Of those 55 spots via mIRC, 43 of the calls were unique -
meaning that station only spotted LT1F during the contest.
7-12 of these calls were also inactive, depending
on the source (Buckmaster, etc.)
The only US inactive was K9APM. The note from K9APM
is: "assisted category." These are the uniques:
JA5SUD 14223.5 LT1F booming signal Sun Mar 31 22:00
JA1EEG 28533.8 LT1F good signal in JA Sun Mar 31 21:56
PY5XT 3780 LT1F 59 wpx Sun Mar 31 21:48
K9APM 28555 LT1F assisted category Sun Mar 31 21:36
N5YE 28544.9 LT1F Sun Mar 31 20:38
WS0V 28544.9 LT1F Sun Mar 31 20:10
SM5DYC 21349.7 LT1F 59 wpx Sun Mar 31 20:07
DK9SD 28576 LT1F Sun Mar 31 19:56
W0AJU 21349.7 LT1F 59 Sun Mar 31 19:42
UN8GF 14300 LT1F good signal Sun Mar 31 19:39
PA0ATY 28576 LT1F 59==== Sun Mar 31 19:36
G3JJZ 21349.7 LT1F wpx very strong Sun Mar 31 19:13
LU1FAM 21375.8 LT1F Look for Us!!! :)) Sun Mar 31 18:02
IK2ULM 28657.5 LT1F Sun Mar 31 17:36
LU1FAM 28537.2 LT1F Sun Mar 31 16:53
HB9AWS 28632.9 LT1F few takers! Sun Mar 31 13:05
LY5W 28632.9 LT1F WEAK SIGNAL Sun Mar 31 12:52
UT6EE 21328.9 LT1F long path (lp wpx) Sun Mar 31 12:13
DL3DBY 28632.9 LT1F wpx very strong Sun Mar 31 12:09
JH4AS 14219.6 LT1F cq contest Sun Mar 31 09:15
DN8AF 14334 LT1F DX CONTEST Sun Mar 31 07:32
JR3LFP 21355 LT1F Sun Mar 31 06:55
EA3ACA 14334 LT1F Sun Mar 31 06:53:
VA7AM 7080.5 LT1F qsx 7269 Sun Mar 31 06:43
HC1OT 7048 LT1F qsx 7211 contest Sun Mar 31 05:25
W7KQZ 14321 LT1F contest Sun Mar 31 05:15
JA1KWB 28415 LT1F Sun Mar 31 04:21
W4QK 21355 LT1F Sun Mar 31 04:20
OH6XY 7051.2 LT1F Sun Mar 31 04:17
RU9AF 28414 LT1F cq cq Sun Mar 31 04:00
VP2YV 21355 LT1F contest Sun Mar 31 03:59:
JK1NOP 28415.4 LT1F WPX BOOMING SIGNAL Sun Mar 31 02:01
JA7NUR 21228.7 LT1F WPX / BIG SIGNAL Sun Mar 31 01:59
KK4TA 14290 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:58:
W1TRB 7056 LT1F qsx 7227 Sun Mar 31 00:51
JA4YHX 14200 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:41
N02A 28413.6 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:29
N2NI 21228.7 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:28
WS7V 3790 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:27
SVGHF 14329 LT1F Sat Mar 30 23:32
K6AY 28438 LT1F Sat Mar 30 23:25
W9YK 28438.2 LT1F Sat Mar 30 23:21
LU9FHY 7050 LT1F Sat Mar 30 23:16
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
UA9YAB
During the WPX contest, there were 30 spots of UA9YAB.
Of those, 11 spots came via mIRC/DX Summit.
Of those 11 spots via mIRC, 9 of the calls were unique -
as many as seven of those uniques were also inactive calls,
depending on the source (Buckmaster, etc.)
The US inactives were:
W8JGX 28620 UA9YAB Sun Mar 31 13:25
W4RFC 28355 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 13:39
K4JHV 28355 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 13:07
W7UAS 28546.3 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 01:37
Here are the other uniques:
PY7TFZ 28620 UA9YAB Big in WPX Sun Mar 31 11:53
JK7SXM 28528 UA9YAB Sun Mar 31 03:44
JH1ACA 28440 UA9YAB Sun Mar 31 01:19
SP7YHC 28536.6 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 06:55
JH1ACA 28545 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 01:06
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
UU7J
During the WPX contest, there were 62 spots of UU7J.
Of those, 30 spots came via mIRC/DX Summit.
Of those 30 spots, 19 of the calls were "unique" -
2-5 of those uniques were also inactive calls, depending
on the source (Buckmaster, etc.) There were no US inactives,
but the WA1Z spot would seem to be out of band.
Here are the uniques:
VE7VZ 14136 UU7J Sun Mar 31 23:47
WA1Z 14132 UU7J Sun Mar 31 22:50
M3JAG 14169.2 UU7J Sun Mar 31 21:30
CT1GFK 14169.2 UU7J Sun Mar 31 19:13
WA2AGE 14170 UU7J loud Sun Mar 31 17:24:
JE0EHE 14170 UU7J Sun Mar 31 16:42
EU3AR 14170 UU7J Sun Mar 31 14:21
DL1EF 14170 UU7J wpx Sun Mar 31 13:31
W1TE 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 13:00
DK4ZZ 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 12:32
OZ5RM 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 10:26
RW4HB 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 10:11
OK2BJK 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 07:35
WN6R 14212 UU7J wpx loud Sun Mar 31 00:45
ON7CC 14187 UU7J Sat Mar 30 20:24
G0TTM 14187 UU7J Sat Mar 30 20:15
IZ5ENH 14187.1 UU7J wpx Sat Mar 30 19:22
UA9ACE 14192.9 UU7J Sat Mar 30 14:10
SM7CQY 14193 UU7J Sat Mar 30 13:24
SM7CQY 14207.5 UU7J Sat Mar 30 08:45
MORE
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:07:32 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #6
Message-ID: <00b501c1e747$09ec4d20$0000a398@COMPUTER>
RA0FU
There were 17 spots of RA0FU during the WPX SSB contest.
Of those 17, 8 spots were via IRC/DX Summit.
Those eight calls produced eight unique spots and
as many as six inactive calls, including K6LTX.
K6LTX 28512.2 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 23:35:00 2002
F6GPJ 28612.6 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 10:40:00 2002
SP3AK 28613 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 10:21:00 2002
OK1DFA 28575.7 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 09:33:00 2002
DL4OCG 28575 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 09:07:00 2002
OE3DFG 28575 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 08:33:00 2002
EA5GF 28348.2 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 08:06:00 2002
LY3GA 28514 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 07:35:00 2002
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
RD4M
During the WPX contest, there were 36 spots of RD4M.
Of those, 24 spots came via mIRC/DX Summit.
Of those 24 spots via mIRC, 7 of the calls were unique -
3-6 of those uniques were also inactive calls, depending
on the source (Buckmaster, etc.)
There were no inactive US calls found in these spots.
The uniques are as follows:
DL3WQ 7080.9 RD4M Sun Mar 31 23:48:00 2002
F6HYY 7033.3 RD4M Sun Mar 31 22:00:00 2002
DL1WAL 21320 RD4M Sun Mar 31 16:16:00 2002
JK1DLW 28532 RD4M Sun Mar 31 05:55:00 2002
NI2W 14197 RD4M Sun Mar 31 04:43:00 2002
DF2WE 21225.1 RD4M Sat Mar 30 16:13:00 2002
DN1ET 28552 RD4M Sat Mar 30 12:12:00 2002
Five other stations spotted RD4M with their only mIRC/DX Summit
spot of the entire contest:
RL3A, RZ3AZ, PA1BRZ, NR2D and RU4HP
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
5B4/R3CC
During the WPX contest, there were 80 spots of UA9YAB.
Of those, 14 spots came via mIRC/DX Summit.
Of those 14 spots via mIRC, 6 of the calls were unique -
Two of those uniques were also inactive calls, according
to Buckmaster. There were no US inactives.
Here are the uniques:
DL6DGI 3798.5 5B4/R3CC Sun Mar 31 20:47:00 2002
KB3BBJ 28527.7 5B4/R3CC Sun Mar 31 16:52:00 2002
JH6WNY 28522.3 5B4/R3CC Sun Mar 31 05:07:00 2002
JA3VXH 28516 5B4/R3CC wpx Sun Mar 31 04:57:00 2002
KC8QKF 21300 5B4/R3CC Sat Mar 30 01:51:00 2002
KC3SF 21300 5B4/R3CC Sat Mar 30 01:38:00 2002
N3FYW 21301.3 5B4/R3CC loud Sat Mar 30 01:15:00 2002
There were also these two spots from W1AAA:
W1AAA 21200 5B4/R3CC self spot on dxsummit Sat Mar 30 01:57
W1AAA 21205 5B4/R3CC using bogus calls Sat Mar 30 01:57
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
EA3ELZ
There were 10 spots of EA3ELZ in the WPX SSB. Four of those
spots were via IRC/DX Summit. All four were uniques:
WB8ETG 28731.4 EA3ELZ BIG SIG Sun Mar 31 16:35
K8DGH 28766 EA3ELZ BIG SIG Sun Mar 31 13:40
NO5R 14349.2 EA3ELZ WPX Sun Mar 31 03:35
KM4RT 14315.5 EA3ELZ Sat Mar 30 02:29
US callbook servers say that three of these calls are
not active: WB8ETG, K8DGH and KM4RT.
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
AN5OL
In the WPX, there were seven spots for AN5OL, all seven
were uniques. Note the similarity in the three G-calls.
G0PPF 28401 AN5OL Sun Mar 31 12:41:00 2002
US2IR 28549.5 AN5OL Sun Mar 31 07:25:00 2002
G0PPP 28390.9 AN5OL Sat Mar 30 11:38:00 2002
LY2AT 28390.8 AN5OL via EA5OL Sat Mar 30 11:02:00
G0PPP 21310 AN5OL test Sat Mar 30 10:40:00 2002
G0PPH 14285 AN5OL Sat Mar 30 08:23:00 2002
G0PPH 14288 AN5OL Sat Mar 30 07:32:00 2002
G0PPH is active - but it is unclear from web searches whether
G0PPP and G0PPF are as well. All of those spots were made
from a node in Spain. The other two spots were from mIRC/DX Summit.
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
WP3C
During the WPX contest, there were 47 spots of WP3C.
5 of those spots came via IRC/DX Summit - those five
stations were all uniques, only spotting WP3C.
Two of those calls are listed as inactive.
VE3RM 28666.6 WP3C Sun Mar 31 18:04:00 2002
I7RFG 28856 WP3C Via W3HNK Sun Mar 31 15:19:00 2002
KP4AH 28638.5 WP3C TEST Sun Mar 31 12:45:00 2002
W6JUD 21335.5 WP3C TEST Sun Mar 31 12:24:00 2002
NP3KI 7090 WP3C 7279.0 Sun Mar 31 11:19:00 2002
KP4AH 7091 WP3C 7199.0 Sat Mar 30 09:06:00 2002
NP3KI 7091 WP3C 7200.0 Sat Mar 30 08:30:00 2002
The inactive calls are W6JUD and I7RFG.
Also, there are two self-spots for WP3C from the WPX:
WP3C-WPX 28420.0 WP3C WPX KP42319 31 Mar 2002
WP3C 7087.5 WP3C 7288.0 KP40641 30 Mar 2002
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
RW3DU
In the WPX contest, there were 9 spots of RW3DU.
They included spots from eight unique calls:
JS6GIM 28462 RW3DU BIG Sun Mar 31 11:20:00 2002
F6KTL 21253.5 RW3DU BIG SIGNAL Sun Mar 31 06:53:00
OH2K 3730.2 RW3DU Sat Mar 30 19:40:00 2002
RK6BZ 3749 RW3DU CQ TEST Sat Mar 30 17:45:00 2002
EA7FVX 14305 RW3DU Sat Mar 30 17:03:00 2002
WS1A 21383.5 RW3DU Sat Mar 30 12:40:00 2002
NB1B 21245 RW3DU FB Sat Mar 30 12:32:00 2002
DL7FER 14256.5 RW3DU BIG SIGNAL Sat Mar 30 11:24:00
Seven of these spots were via IRC/DX Summit, only RK6BZ was not.
NB1B usually uses another node.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
NP2N/AG0
In the WPX, 10 stations made 17 spots of NP2N/AG0.
Two of the spots came from W0JIG, which is not an active call:
W0JIG 14270 NP2N/AG0 Sat Mar 30 14:27
W0JIG 14195.5 NP2N/AG0 LOUD IN CENTRAL IOWA Sat Mar 30 03:15
NP2N/AG0 was also spotted 7 times by W0ANZ.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
OH1F
There were 20 total spots of OH1F during the WPX contest.
Four of those spots came via IRC/DX Summit - three of
the calls were unique spotters:
K2FGY 213582 OH1F Sun Mar 31 16:04:00 2002
K3IUP 21379 OH1F Sat Mar 30 17:29:00 2002
K8AQW 21379 OH1F Sat Mar 30 17:04:00 2002
All three of these US calls are listed as inactive.
*********************************************
>From ki9a at aol.com Fri Apr 19 00:04:00 2002
From: ki9a@aol.com (ki9a@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
Message-ID: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
#2 & #3,"unique" spots, inactive calls, blah,blah,blah.
Is this really going to make or break contesting?
DO THE RULES STATE YOU NEED TO USE YOUR OWN CALL TO PUT *INTERNET*, yes,
INTERNET spots up??
This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not condone using "fake" calls for
spotting, but, I'm sure there are better things to talk about than this BS.
Again folks, you don't need to correctly ID on the internet spots, errr, maybe
they changed the rules? Maybe I will spot guys during the next contest using
the word MOE or CURLEY instead of my own call, I'm sure NS3T will drive himself
nuts trying to figure if MOE is still active? ;-)
73-Chuck KI9A
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Fri Apr 19 05:32:44 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
In-Reply-To: <200204190252.g3J2qj9F030858@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020419041415.00d41b00@pop.pacific.net.hk>
If dealing with the logs, putting together the results & getting out
certificates &
plaques is anything like QSLs, then I don't envy the lot of volunteers like
N8BJQ,
K4JRB, K3EST & Co, etc.
Sometimes I wonder how I include an SAE & IRC in my Cabrillo file in order to
help make getting the certificate back to me easier for these guys - or
what the
tag is for including a credit card number to pay for a plaque that the
original sponsor
may not have followed through with, or to pay for one if I may have
qualified for one
which had not been sponsored.
Sometimes I reckon there's simply more that the participants could be doing.
For example, what's a plaque cost - USD50? That's less per day than it costs
to leave my motor at the airport when I fly to 9M6 for the weekend, let alone
the plane ticket itself. Heck, I don't see much change out of USD50 driving
into town to collect QSLs from my PO box!
The certificates are often not such a big deal, as #1 HK is almost always a
given.
I do get a kick out of the ones that are endorsed as zone winner, #1 Asia, #5
world or the like... wish we could see more of that. Awards help fuel activity
in the event, IMHO. They are important, just like those pesky QSLs we get as
a result of operating in them.
I'm still shy of Real Contester status, so believe to date I've earned only
one Real
Contest plaque. It is for WPX, but I'm patient. Just like discussing
UBNs, these
guys are reasonable & I for one am willing to cut them some slack.
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From k8cc at comcast.net Fri Apr 19 02:05:08 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (Dave Pruett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Routes For MiQP Mobiles This Weekend
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020419004959.0098c5e0@mail.comcast.net>
One last reminder the 2002 Michigan QSO Party is this weekend, running from
16Z on Saturday to 04Z Sunday. Full rules are available on the MRRC web
site at http://www.mrrc.net.
A big part of the activity in state QSO parties comes from mobile stations
who roam the countryside activating rare or uncommon counties. MiQP is no
different and there will be ten full time mobile stations out this
weekend. Here are their callsigns and the counties they will activate:
AA8U:
Jackson, Ingham, Eaton, Calhoun, Barry, Allegan, Kent, Ottawa, Muskegon,
Newaygo, Montcalm, Ionia, Gratiot, Clinton
AF8A:
Saginaw, Gratiot, Montcalm, Mecosta, Isabella, Midland, Newaygo, Muskegon,
Osceola, Mason, Lake, Manistee, Clare, Glad, Bay, Genesee, Livingston,
Washtenaw, Monroe
K5OT:
Baraga, Houghton, Ontonogon, Gogebic, Iron, Dickenson, Menominee
K8CC:
Presque Isle, Alpena, Alcona, Iosco, Arenac, Bay, Saginaw, Tuscola, Huron,
Sanilac, St. Clair, Macomb, Lapeer, Genesee, Shiawassee, Ingham,
Livingston, Oakland, Wayne, Monroe, Lenawee, Washtenaw
K8IR:
Dickinson, Iron, Gogebic, Ontonagon, Houghton, Keweenaw, Baraga, Marquette,
Alger, Delta, Menominee
K8MR:
Bay, Arenac, Gladwin, Ogemaw, Roscommon, Crawford, Oscoda, Montmorency,
Otsego, Cheboygan, Emmet, Charlevoix, Antrim, Kalkaska, Grand
Traverse, Wexford, Missaukee, Osceola, Clare, Isabella, Gratiot, Clinton,
Ingham, Livingston, Washtenaw
KU8E:
Monroe, Lenawee, Hillsdale, Jackson, Branch, St Joseph, Cass, Berrien, Van
Buren, Kalamazoo, Calhoun, Barry, Eaton, Ingham, Livingston
N8FYL:
Route TBD
W1NN:
Ottawa, Allegan, Kent, Ionia, Barry, Eaton, Clinton, Shiawassee, Ingham,
Livingston, Oakland, Wayne, Washtenaw
W8UE:
Delta, Alger, Marquette, Schoolcraft, Luce, Chippewa, Mackinaw, Emmet,
Cheboygan, Otsego, Charlevoix, Antrim, Kalkaska, Grand Traverse, Leelenaw,
Benzie, Manistee, Mason, Lake, Newago, Oceana, Mecosta, Isabella, Midland
WT9U:
Route is TBD
GL and hope to see everyone this weekend.
73,
Dave/K8CC
>From 4n1fg at infosky.net Fri Apr 19 10:36:36 2002
From: 4n1fg@infosky.net (Sasha Milojevic - 4N1FG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] YUDX Contest
Message-ID: <004901c1e774$faef3d90$0c67fac3@sasha>
Hallo dear friends and contesters,
I would like to invite you to participate in YUDX Contest that will take
place on next weekend, April 20/21, Saturday 12:00 UTC - Sunday 12:00 UTC.
Complete rules and software you can find on http://yudx.net
73 de 4N1FG, Sasha
4n1fg@qsl.net
>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Fri Apr 19 12:38:06 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (Timo)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #6
References: <00b501c1e747$09ec4d20$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Message-ID: <002701c1e77d$875e0a60$a3c5f83e@tklimoff>
> OH1F
>
> There were 20 total spots of OH1F during the WPX contest.
> Four of those spots came via IRC/DX Summit - three of
> the calls were unique spotters:
>
> K2FGY 213582 OH1F Sun Mar 31 16:04:00 2002
> K3IUP 21379 OH1F Sat Mar 30 17:29:00 2002
> K8AQW 21379 OH1F Sat Mar 30 17:04:00 2002
>
> All three of these US calls are listed as inactive.
This is very interesting because a club station OH1F has no access to IRC/DX
Summit ( = no self spotting possible via this route). So the most interesting
question is: why on Earth someone spots us with most likely fake callsign but
not with his/her own call? (Maybe SWL?)
Timo OH1NOA
one of OH1F (ES9C in WPX)
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Fri Apr 19 12:25:16 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r thanks
Message-ID: <000c01c1e794$e23a4450$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Thanks for all the comments on so2r equipment, there are of course too
many replies to respond to each one directly. Hopefully I will get to
read through them all and summarize here or on my web site shortly.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Fri Apr 19 09:08:58 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FW: nice work!
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEGGDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
-----Original Message-----
From: jljarvis [mailto:jljarvis@adelphia.net]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:08 AM
To: jdup@jdupree.com
Subject: nice work!
Jamie/NS3T,
Not very many guys have the capability to do the search/analysis
you did...and of those, few would take the time. Nice bit of work.
What this does is set a standard for the contest committees...if
they choose to go there....for the kind of analysis which is possible.
The only 'weak' spot in it is identifying calls which are 'active'...
and I would assume that contest committees would draw up on log
submissions as well as buckmaster, or other reporting services.
What your data makes abundantly clear, is that there is a relatively
high level of packet piracy going on. The potential is there for this
to increase.
This would seem to be difficult ground upon which to formulate
competitive policy. Want your chief rival DQ'd? Spot 'im!
For that matter...and this is another thread....want your chief rival's
rate to drop? Spot 'im!
Jim Jarvis, N2EA
>From robert.chandler at sympatico.ca Fri Apr 19 09:37:28 2002
From: robert.chandler@sympatico.ca (Bob Chandler, VE3SRE)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ONTARIO QSO PARTY - THIS WEEKEND!
Message-ID: <010201c1e79e$f762f070$f0b9fea9@CATDISH>
Hi!
The 6th Annual Ontario QSO Party takes place this
weekend April 20-21st starting at 1800 UTC Saturday
running to 1800 UTC Sunday sponsored by the
Ontario DX Association.
Details are available at http://www.odxa.on.ca/oqphome.html
Files are available for TR-log, NA-log, N1MM's new logging
programme and Log-EQF. As well VE3SYB has
developed a logging programme called "OQP-log"
specifically for this contest.
CU on the bands!
73 de Bob VE3SRE
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>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Fri Apr 19 07:13:04 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
In-Reply-To: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20020419131304.17022.qmail@web13304.mail.yahoo.com>
Ahh, well. Someone failed to READ all of NS3T's
comments concerning his intent and purpose for
the postings, it seems.
I did not read NS3T's comments as flames,
attempts to engage in a witch hunt or anything
like that.
I saw it as an attempt to provide data and some
kind of REASONABLE thought and analysis as to the
WHAT behind the WHY.
ALthough I'm not an analyst, I found it useful
for thought and consideration as I'm sure others
did as well.
Thanks, NS3T, for the info.
73
Chuck K3FT
========================================
There's an old saying.. 'You don't like what you
hear (read) on the radio.. spin the dial (hit
delete)' HI!
-......"This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not
> condone using "fake" calls for spotting, but,
> I'm sure there are better things to talk about
> than this BS.
>
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>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Apr 19 09:28:47 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
In-Reply-To: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204190819300.9820-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 ki9a@aol.com wrote:
> #2 & #3,"unique" spots, inactive calls, blah,blah,blah.
>
> Is this really going to make or break contesting?
>
> DO THE RULES STATE YOU NEED TO USE YOUR OWN CALL TO PUT *INTERNET*, yes,
> INTERNET spots up??
>
> This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not condone using "fake" calls for
> spotting, but, I'm sure there are better things to talk about than this BS.
>
> Again folks, you don't need to correctly ID on the internet spots, errr,
> maybe they changed the rules? Maybe I will spot guys during the next contest
> using the word MOE or CURLEY instead of my own call, I'm sure NS3T will drive
> himself nuts trying to figure if MOE is still active? ;-)
>
> 73-Chuck KI9A
What happened to SHEMP? :-)
I agree; this whole thing is pretty much pointless. No one is going to be
able to prove anything out of it; possibly some of the stations who in
fact did only spot one callsign once during the contest will be offended.
And what constitutes an "inactive station"? Who decides that? I would go
through the effort of contacting each and verifying he/she wasn't in the
contest and didn't spot anybody before making such a broad statement. And
again, it's going to be difficult or impossible to determine and prove who
did make the spot if it was with a fake callsign.
I only made about 10 QSO's during WPX SSB because I lost my voice due to a
virus. I didn't send in a log. I may have spotted somene during that
time; does that make me a suspected villain? Does that make me an
"inactive station"?
Let's discuss something else. Who's going to be in the TARA PSK Rumble
this weekend?
73, Zack W9SZ
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Fri Apr 19 08:30:28 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
References: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00d301c1e7a6$5f1f9fe0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
> This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not condone using "fake" calls for
spotting, but, I'm sure there are better things to talk about than this BS.
Jamie - I on the other hand think your analysis is intriguing and
insightful. We need a lot more of this type of analysis to shed light on the
actual activities and fundamental nature of contesting. I suspect that only
detailed empirical analysis not hearsay will be the only way we can move
amateur radio contesting to a higher plane that it is currently on.
I am still studying you finding. Keep up the good work and keep us informed!
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From k2kw at prodigy.net Fri Apr 19 08:02:02 2002
From: k2kw@prodigy.net (KEN SILVERMAN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DX Holiday Web Page - Major Update
Message-ID: <009c01c1e7aa$c9ee9fc0$97d3fea9@a>
I am pleased to announce the latest update to DX Holiday www.dxholiday.com,
your best source for DXpedition information on Rent-a-QTHs, Ham Friendly
Locations, and Club stations.
This update includes changes to over 55 DXCC Entities.
3B8 3B9 3DA0 3W 6Y 7P 9M2 9M6 9Q A2 A3
A5 C9 CE0 CY9 D4 DU FG FM GJ GW HC8
HI HL HR J6 JW JX K KH0 KH4 KH6 LX LY
OH0 SM SV T7 T88 T9 TG TI TI9 TK TU UT
V2 V5 VK9X YK YU Z2 ZK1 ZS
There are some new Rent-a-QTH additions in: FM, V2, A5, SM, LY, and the KH0
location was improved. Unfortunately we have lost Rent-a-QTH's in:
KH4 and A35. (KH4 is no longer open to the public)
Thanks to all those who submitted information. I must also apologize for
the long awaited update, but life events didn't leave much time for ham
radio since I started working in August 2001. (That was the date of the
last update). Monthly updates will continue again.
If you've been on a recent DXpedition, please send me details of your trip
so others can benefit from your experience!
73, Kenny K2KW
www.dxholiday.com
>From wd3q at erols.com Fri Apr 19 08:19:34 2002
From: wd3q@erols.com (Eric Rosenberg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
Message-ID: <190402109.26373@webbox.com>
When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of my CQWW logs,
I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN information.
I may have gotten that email and subsequent information, but
if I did, I no longer have it.
How can I get it (again)?
Eric W3DQ
Washington DC
>From paspe at mega.ist.utl.pt Fri Apr 19 16:30:51 2002
From: paspe@mega.ist.utl.pt (Pedro Antonio De Sousa Pedroso)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ certificates
In-Reply-To: <E16yHCR-0002by-00@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10204191529370.28588-100000@mega>
I am still waiting for a WPX award from CQ WW WPX CW 1999
.... never understood why it is taking so long.
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Merrimon Crawford Pladsen wrote:
> From: Merrimon Crawford Pladsen <ab0mv@ix.netcom.com>
> To: CQ-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ certificates
>
> I know people still waiting for certificates/plaques from 1999 CQ contests.
> 4 years is too long. Those responsible will not respond to repeated
> questions via email or snail mail. Even a simple response that those
> responsible & CQ contest committee are aware of the delay and are trying to
> do something about it would be better than refusing any response to
> certificate/plaque winners!
> 73
> Merri AB0MV
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Fri Apr 19 11:01:32 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] It's All in the Mind, You Know
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020419094646.00b809f8@pop.pdq.net>
Packet thread has been interesting to say the least.
Still, Ham Radio is just a hobby, and hobbies are to enjoy.
Self spotting.
Clandestine spotting.
Buddy repeat spotting.
QSO begging spotting.
QLF.
QRQ.
QRS.
F1, F2, F3, F4 - Can't copy CW.
F1, F2, F3, F4 - Can't send CW.
Frequency police.
Scoldings for not using split.
Deliberate QRM.
Net ownership of frequencies.
Contesters destroying telephone quality SSB chit chat of rag chewers.
Hemorrhoid, aches and pains, and medication QSO content.
Political QSO's.
High Power.
Low Power.
Big antennae.
No antennae.
Stations with maintenance crews.
Stations hiding in a closet.
TVI.
BCI.
RFI.
Front Row Monkeys.
Back Row Monkeys.
Audio adjustment # 2437.
Funny how some things bug me, and some things make me laugh.
Guess I better to just learn to laugh more - at more,
and get bugged less - at less.
Maybe then, I'm gonna find I enjoy my hobby every bit as much as I seem to
keep telling myself.
Who else wants to join me in trying to enjoy the hobby enough to get past
most of the above list?
I really do like to laugh.
Maybe ham radio and laughter would make for a great day on a repeated basis.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Apr 19 11:23:05 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
In-Reply-To: <20020419131304.17022.qmail@web13304.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204191014570.13474-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Chuck wrote:
> Ahh, well. Someone failed to READ all of NS3T's
> comments concerning his intent and purpose for
> the postings, it seems.
>
> I did not read NS3T's comments as flames,
> attempts to engage in a witch hunt or anything
> like that.
>
> I saw it as an attempt to provide data and some
> kind of REASONABLE thought and analysis as to the
> WHAT behind the WHY.
>
> ALthough I'm not an analyst, I found it useful
> for thought and consideration as I'm sure others
> did as well.
>
> Thanks, NS3T, for the info.
>
> 73
>
> Chuck K3FT
I had a misunderstanding. Jamie pointed out to me that "inactive" didn't
mean that the station wasn't in the contest, but rather that the callsign
hadn't been issued according to recent databases. That makes the whole
thing much more intriguing. I'm now among the curious!
Zack W9SZ
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Fri Apr 19 09:35:19 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
References: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004901c1e7b7$d3e0c8c0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
The crazy nature of practically every open e-mail reflector can be
blamed for some of the annoyance we all feel about the postings
we receive from time to time. We all want to present and
sometimes promote our own views and in so doing we might even
try to suppress those views that run counter to our own. It's the
nature of reflectors.
Reflectors do provide a valuable forum for our ideas, and the
contesting reflector can get particularly ugly sometimes simply
because it is just about the best way to promote new ideas
about "fairness" in contests. NS3T was clearly a little bit wild
with his early posts on this subject, and a number of innocents
were abused in the process. The "witch hunt" comparison is
a good one.
We do need to reexamine the rules of contests from time to time,
and provide new suggestions as to how contesting can be made
"fair" again when we discover new technologies that are legal by
the "word of the law" but are nonetheless "cheating" when an
honest evaluation is made. This year it's the net, next year it
could be something we haven't thought of yet.
We can all agree that the demon that NS3T was attacking
deserves to be vanquished, even though we'd like to see an
approach to this battle that would inflict less collateral damage.
----- Original Message -----
From: <ki9a@aol.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 20:04
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
> #2 & #3,"unique" spots, inactive calls, blah,blah,blah.
>
> Is this really going to make or break contesting?
>
> DO THE RULES STATE YOU NEED TO USE YOUR OWN CALL TO PUT *INTERNET*, yes,
INTERNET spots up??
>
> This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not condone using "fake" calls for
spotting, but, I'm sure there are better things to talk about than this BS.
>
> Again folks, you don't need to correctly ID on the internet spots, errr,
maybe they changed the rules? Maybe I will spot guys during the next contest
using the word MOE or CURLEY instead of my own call, I'm sure NS3T will
drive himself nuts trying to figure if MOE is still active? ;-)
>
> 73-Chuck KI9A
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From dennis.mcalpine at verizon.net Fri Apr 19 12:40:19 2002
From: dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net (Dennis McAlpine)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FW: nice work!
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEGGDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <00b901c1e7b8$83186fa0$e1e453a2@oemcomputer>
Jamie.NS3T,
Add my compliments for your efforts as well. It may not prove anythin but
if there's enough smoke, there might just be a fire there somewhere.
For those who are critical of this "BS" ,as one arrogant writer called it, I
remind you of the furor that N6AA et al created when he started the whole
concept of "uniques, uniques + 1, etc". Yet, as a result of that I would
guess that the accuracy of logging has gone up dramatically and most of us
have become better operators as a result of paying more attention to what we
are doing.
Go back even before then to the times when certain contesters thought it was
smart to run excessive power to make their life easier. We all knew who
they were. For example, how many W6s from CA can run a pile-up of East
Coast stations on 40 cw at 1400 EST with a s9 signal with 100 watts? or
even a KW? Eventually, peer pressure forced most of those guys to get with
the program and run legit power.
The type of analysis you are doing may well cause the same sort of reaction.
The people who are illegally (yes, the rules do prohibit such spots)
spotting themselves under the guise of someone else's call or a made-up one
can no longer hide under the rock. Once they are in the sunlight maybe they
will get the bright idea that it's time to cease and desist.
Keep it up.
73,
Dennis K2SX
----- Original Message -----
From: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@adelphia.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:08 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FW: nice work!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jljarvis [mailto:jljarvis@adelphia.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:08 AM
> To: jdup@jdupree.com
> Subject: nice work!
>
>
> Jamie/NS3T,
>
> Not very many guys have the capability to do the search/analysis
> you did...and of those, few would take the time. Nice bit of work.
>
> What this does is set a standard for the contest committees...if
> they choose to go there....for the kind of analysis which is possible.
>
> The only 'weak' spot in it is identifying calls which are 'active'...
> and I would assume that contest committees would draw up on log
> submissions as well as buckmaster, or other reporting services.
>
> What your data makes abundantly clear, is that there is a relatively
> high level of packet piracy going on. The potential is there for this
> to increase.
>
> This would seem to be difficult ground upon which to formulate
> competitive policy. Want your chief rival DQ'd? Spot 'im!
>
> For that matter...and this is another thread....want your chief rival's
> rate to drop? Spot 'im!
>
> Jim Jarvis, N2EA
>
>
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>From KI9A at aol.com Fri Apr 19 13:57:41 2002
From: KI9A@aol.com (KI9A@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
Message-ID: <12f.1015ddb5.29f1a685@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/19/02 11:53:05 AM Central Daylight Time,
SteveBaron@StarLinX.com writes:
You seem to have missed the whole point.
>
Nope. Not at all.
The point is it would be darn near impossible to stop packet cheats. Period,
especially INTERNET spots.
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>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Fri Apr 19 14:14:05 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Folks,
While this may be a tiresome topic for some, I, for one,
would like to see some fact-based vision applied to the
process of rulemaking. NS3T's data makes a giant step in
that regard.
As Zack/KI9A pointed out, Manny, Moe and Curley can spot legally
via Internet. There are third-party message issues afoot when
those spots are absorbed into RF distribution systems, however.
(Here comes David Popkin!)
I can see a whole landscape of possible policy choices adopted by
contest sponsors, and packet system operators in response to this
situation.
Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
I have what I believe is an informed and reasoned justification
for this recommendation. Short form: It's not a benefit,if
everyone can do it; it may reduce rates. If in doubt, see K1AR's
column in the May CQ, reference N2RM.
Jim/N2EA
>From k7gt at attbi.com Fri Apr 19 18:42:41 2002
From: k7gt@attbi.com (k7gt@attbi.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Any serious contest loggers for LINUX??
Message-ID: <20020419174244.FGSF1143.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
I am a very casual contester currently using TRLog
(which I like very much) on an older DOS PC. Looking
forward a few years, maintaining that old PC and its
ilk is going to be quite problematic. Thus I wonder
if there have been any serious efforts to write up
a contest logger that would function well on a modern
very fast PC running LINUX (as opposed to Windows XXX).
I do mostly CW for both regular operating and contests,
so superb CW keying from the program is a MUST. I am
wondering if LINUX running on, say, a 1.6 GHZ PC might be
free enough from system interrupts to key a rig. Or,
another direction, could it drive a W5XD-style SO2R
control/keyer
box?
I am NOT a LINUX geek but have used it casually at work
along with UNIX on the workstations there.
If this is previously walked turf, I apologize in advance
as I am a newbie here.
73 Allan K7GT
(contest under K6TTX)
Pleasanton CA
>From dhenderson at arrl.org Fri Apr 19 15:58:39 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL Offers Members Expanded Contest Results on the Web
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B7810@KAHLESS>
ARRL Debuts Expanded Online Contest Coverage
The ARRL is proud to announce the introduction of expanded online coverage
of ARRL contests effective April 19, 2002. The URL for expanded ARRL Contest
coverage is http://www.arrl.org/contests/results/ . ARRL staff members and
volunteers have spent many months in planning and developing this expanded
online resource to provide more detailed, in-depth coverage of ARRL events
on the Web. Expanded ARRL Contest coverage online supplements coverage in
QST.
The first contest results presented in the expanded online format are the
2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes, CW. The online presentation features:
? An interactive, searchable database of the line scores. In addition to the
information normally presented in QST, you can see band-by-band QSO
breakdowns, hours operated, check and club affiliation for each entry. The
database is searchable by call sign, entry class, ARRL Section or Division,
and club. You can sort the results by many criteria, including call, score,
QSOs, multipliers, or band QSOs.
? Expanded Soapbox comments. In the initial presentation, Soapbox comments
from all of the electronic Cabrillo entries are included. For future
contests, the Soapbox tools will be available for entrants to add their
comments or photos immediately after the contest.
? An expanded version of the contest write-up that appears in QST. Written
by noted competitor Randy Thompson, K5ZD, the expanded writeup goes into
much more detail than the typical QST presentation. Also included are
station descriptions for the top 10 entrants in each single-op category, a
sidebar story about the log checking process by K5ZD and a sidebar about the
history of the November Sweepstakes by Doug Grant, K1DG.
? Updated contest category records. Ken Adams, K5KA, and Dave Clemons,
K1VUT, have teamed up to provided updated November Sweepstakes records for
each entry class and ARRL Division and Section, as well as overall category
records.
The new features add to existing online resources for contesters, including
complete ARRL contest rules and forms, the ARRL Contest Calendar, and the
Contest Corral listing of contests throughout the year. ARRL Members may
also subscribe to the ARRL Contest Rate Sheet, a biweekly e-mail newsletter
that debuted in March 2002.
Access to the extended coverage is available to ARRL members. To visit the
site, you need to be logged on to the ARRL website with your user name and
password. If you have not registered, you may do so online at
www.arrl.org/members. As has been our practice for several years, non-ARRL
members will continue to be able to view a PDF file of the QST results
article from the main ARRL Contest Branch Web page at www.arrl.org/contests
approximately 30 days after the issue of QST in which it appears has been
published.
ARRL Contests Online is considered a "work in progress." The online
presentation will be flexible, allowing us to improve the site as it
develops. As new contest results become available, they will be added to the
site. As you explore the site, we welcome your feedback. You may contact
contests@arrl.org with your comments or suggestions. You may also contact us
by phone at 860-594-0232.
>From geoiii at kkn.net Fri Apr 19 13:38:48 2002
From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III - K5TR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>; from
jljarvis on Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <20020419123848.C8470@loja.kkn.net>
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400, jljarvis wrote:
>
> Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
>
Yes.
In fact I will go a step further and recommend that we
also modify the contest logging programs to do a
self spot anytime you call CQ.
(This idea was thought up by N5KO about 7 months ago.)
--
George Fremin III - K5TR
geoiii@kkn.net
http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>From w7zr at citlink.net Fri Apr 19 13:47:16 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] BIG PRICE REDUCTION!!
Message-ID: <000901c1e7db$2b61d350$35d1fea9@N1>
I have just done a major price reduction on my QTH in Mexico. Great DX and
Contest location. Take a look at www.w7zr.com
73
Dick W7ZR XE2DV
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>From kr6x at kr6x.com Fri Apr 19 14:45:17 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
<20020419123848.C8470@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <001e01c1e7e3$27fc6790$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
This is a neat idea if we are trying to push the guys still using
pencils out of contesting. That would probably include
newcomers to contesting, as well as N6PN.
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Fremin III - K5TR" <geoiii@kkn.net>
To: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 12:38
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400, jljarvis wrote:
> >
> > Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> > Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
> >
>
> Yes.
>
> In fact I will go a step further and recommend that we
> also modify the contest logging programs to do a
> self spot anytime you call CQ.
>
> (This idea was thought up by N5KO about 7 months ago.)
>
> --
> George Fremin III - K5TR
> geoiii@kkn.net
> http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Fri Apr 19 17:57:24 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL Offers Members Expanded Contest Results on the Web
Message-ID: <8c.17170751.29f1deb4@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/19/2002 7:26:39 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
dhenderson@arrl.org writes:
> ARRL Debuts Expanded Online Contest Coverage
>
Dan, all I can say is WOW. Great work, and tnx.
73, George
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From k2qmf at juno.com Fri Apr 19 18:51:51 2002
From: k2qmf@juno.com (k2qmf@juno.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Message-ID: <20020419.175204.-861739.0.K2QMF@juno.com>
This is a great idea!!
This would stop all this foolishness and maybe make contesting
a little more "FUN". After all isn't that what ham radio is all
about????
73, Ted K2QMF. See ya at Dayton for some fun...
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 12:38:48 -0700 George Fremin III - K5TR
<geoiii@kkn.net> writes:
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400, jljarvis wrote:
> >
> > Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> > Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
>
> >
>
> Yes.
>
> In fact I will go a step further and recommend that we
> also modify the contest logging programs to do a
> self spot anytime you call CQ.
>
> (This idea was thought up by N5KO about 7 months ago.)
>
> --
> George Fremin III - K5TR
> geoiii@kkn.net
> http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
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>From kk4ta at STRATO.NET Fri Apr 19 19:16:34 2002
From: kk4ta@STRATO.NET (Tom and Adela)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Stepp-IR 3 element Beam
In-Reply-To: <026c01c1e736$25a97f80$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <BIEGKCDKMCJPDIEONEMJCEGECCAA.kk4ta@strato.net>
Hello All,
Is anyone out there using the Stepp-IR beam, or have you seen any reviews
other than the ones in e-ham which I have read.
I am soooooo close to ordering one, but am still somewhat hesitant. Any
opinions from anyone?
Their site is http://www.fluidmotion.ws/index.htm
Tom
KK4TA
>From K7LXC at aol.com Fri Apr 19 21:06:08 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Stepp-IR 3 element Beam
Message-ID: <15f.c74e93c.29f20af0@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/19/02 3:25:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kk4ta@STRATO.NET
writes:
> Is anyone out there using the Stepp-IR beam, or have you seen any reviews
> other than the ones in e-ham which I have read.
>
> I am soooooo close to ordering one, but am still somewhat hesitant. Any
> opinions from anyone?
Check out the TowerTalk archives at www.contesting.com. Go to the List
Search and put in <towertalk stepp>.
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
TOWER TECH
>From ha5pp at yahoo.com Fri Apr 19 22:29:05 2002
From: ha5pp@yahoo.com (Zoltan Szoke)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
In-Reply-To: <001e01c1e7e3$27fc6790$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Message-ID: <20020420042905.25369.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi,
Yes. All contesters (callsign) will be on culsters.
The contest program will make a callsign-map per band.
We can see the call-map on monitor. We will no need
any hunting (mults, etc.). The logging program will
know what we needed. Perhaps a "help-program" will be
able to make some important mults for us WITHOUT US.
And finally we will no need to fight 40-48 hours non
stop, it will be enough to check our PC by hours. Or
it will be enough to push a BIG ENTER at the start of
the contest...(??) This is the future of contesting.
73
Zoli
HA5PP
--- "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com> wrote:
> This is a neat idea if we are trying to push the
> guys still using
> pencils out of contesting. That would probably
> include
> newcomers to contesting, as well as N6PN.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Fremin III - K5TR" <geoiii@kkn.net>
> To: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@adelphia.net>
> Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 12:38
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting
> 'witch-hunt'
>
>
> > On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400, jljarvis
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Want to stop packet piracy and perceived
> cheating?
> > > Make self-spotting legal, for any station
> allowed to use packet.
> > >
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > In fact I will go a step further and recommend
> that we
> > also modify the contest logging programs to do a
> > self spot anytime you call CQ.
> >
> > (This idea was thought up by N5KO about 7 months
> ago.)
> >
> > --
> > George Fremin III - K5TR
> > geoiii@kkn.net
> > http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >
>
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
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>
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Sat Apr 20 09:11:53 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New ARRL Web Coverage of Contests
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020420074959.025f9400@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
The new approach to covering contests is excellent -- compliments to N1ND,
K5ZD and all others involved in the project. I particularly enjoyed the
ability to sort and display line scores by various parameters, and the
presentation of band-by-band breakouts for everyone. The equipment page on
stations in the top ten boxes was also a welcome addition. Finally, I
think the new transparency as to which stations counted toward which club
score is a welcome addition.
There are just two things I would like to see added. The major one would
be on-line access to my own set of the reports described by K5ZD in his
sidebar "What Price Accuracy." I know that in the past these have been
available by e-mail request to N1ND, but frankly I hesitate to make the
request when I know how few and how busy folks in the Contest Branch
are. CQWW has made this information available, and since N6TR wrote the
software for both I'd hope that most of the work has already been done.
The minor request would be to be able to sort line scores by region as well
as Division and Section.
A great start!
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From maposte at hotmail.com Sat Apr 20 13:45:57 2002
From: maposte@hotmail.com (Fred NA2U)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [3830] ARRL Offers Members Expanded Contest Results
on the Web
Message-ID: <F87zadTMVwVn20lbhsK0000441a@hotmail.com>
Dan, what a GREAT source of contest results! But, PLEASE don't stop
publishing individual contest results in QST.
73,
Fred/NA2U
CWMAN...I'D RATHER WORK CW!!!
"Je mange donc je suis."
>From: "Henderson, Dan N1ND" <dhenderson@arrl.org>
>To: "'3830@contesting.com'" <3830@contesting.com>, "'cq-contest'"
><cq-contest@contesting.com>, "'VHF List'" <vhf@w6yx.Stanford.EDU>,
>"'VHF Contesting.com'" <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
>Subject: [3830] ARRL Offers Members Expanded Contest Results on the Web
>
>
>ARRL Debuts Expanded Online Contest Coverage
>
>The ARRL is proud to announce the introduction of expanded online coverage
>of ARRL contests effective April 19, 2002. The URL for expanded ARRL
>Contest
>coverage is http://www.arrl.org/contests/results/ . ARRL staff members and
>volunteers have spent many months in planning and developing this expanded
>online resource to provide more detailed, in-depth coverage of ARRL events
>on the Web. Expanded ARRL Contest coverage online supplements coverage in
>QST.
>
>The first contest results presented in the expanded online format are the
>2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes, CW. The online presentation features:
>
>Ø An interactive, searchable database of the line scores. In addition to
>the
>information normally presented in QST, you can see band-by-band QSO
>breakdowns, hours operated, check and club affiliation for each entry. The
>database is searchable by call sign, entry class, ARRL Section or Division,
>and club. You can sort the results by many criteria, including call, score,
>QSOs, multipliers, or band QSOs.
>
>Ø Expanded Soapbox comments. In the initial presentation, Soapbox comments
>from all of the electronic Cabrillo entries are included. For future
>contests, the Soapbox tools will be available for entrants to add their
>comments or photos immediately after the contest.
>
>Ø An expanded version of the contest write-up that appears in QST. Written
>by noted competitor Randy Thompson, K5ZD, the expanded writeup goes into
>much more detail than the typical QST presentation. Also included are
>station descriptions for the top 10 entrants in each single-op category, a
>sidebar story about the log checking process by K5ZD and a sidebar about
>the
>history of the November Sweepstakes by Doug Grant, K1DG.
>
>Ø Updated contest category records. Ken Adams, K5KA, and Dave Clemons,
>K1VUT, have teamed up to provided updated November Sweepstakes records for
>each entry class and ARRL Division and Section, as well as overall category
>records.
>
>The new features add to existing online resources for contesters, including
>complete ARRL contest rules and forms, the ARRL Contest Calendar, and the
>Contest Corral listing of contests throughout the year. ARRL Members may
>also subscribe to the ARRL Contest Rate Sheet, a biweekly e-mail newsletter
>that debuted in March 2002.
>
>Access to the extended coverage is available to ARRL members. To visit the
>site, you need to be logged on to the ARRL website with your user name and
>password. If you have not registered, you may do so online at
>www.arrl.org/members. As has been our practice for several years, non-ARRL
>members will continue to be able to view a PDF file of the QST results
>article from the main ARRL Contest Branch Web page at www.arrl.org/contests
>approximately 30 days after the issue of QST in which it appears has been
>published.
>
>ARRL Contests Online is considered a "work in progress." The online
>presentation will be flexible, allowing us to improve the site as it
>develops. As new contest results become available, they will be added to
>the
>site. As you explore the site, we welcome your feedback. You may contact
>contests@arrl.org with your comments or suggestions. You may also contact
>us
>by phone at 860-594-0232.
>_______________________________________________
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Sat Apr 20 05:53:59 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
Message-ID: <000901c1e86f$8972caa0$6941fa43@computer>
How can I get one for SSCW and find the UBN for CQ and ARRL??
Not a computer geek/guru
QUACK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 15:19
Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
>
> When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of my CQWW logs,
> I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN information.
>
>
> I may have gotten that email and subsequent information, but
> if I did, I no longer have it.
>
> How can I get it (again)?
>
> Eric W3DQ
> Washington DC
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Sat Apr 20 05:47:56 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] It's All in the Mind, You Know
Message-ID: <000801c1e86f$880aaf20$6941fa43@computer>
QUACKS
Bob your taking all these treads TOO Serious, get a grip and Hang on,
Somone will now make a tread of your complaint.
73 TU Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob, N5RP" <N5RP@pdq.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 16:01
Subject: [CQ-Contest] It's All in the Mind, You Know
> Packet thread has been interesting to say the least.
>
> Still, Ham Radio is just a hobby, and hobbies are to enjoy.
>
> Self spotting.
> Clandestine spotting.
> Buddy repeat spotting.
> QSO begging spotting.
> QLF.
> QRQ.
> QRS.
> F1, F2, F3, F4 - Can't copy CW.
> F1, F2, F3, F4 - Can't send CW.
> Frequency police.
> Scoldings for not using split.
> Deliberate QRM.
> Net ownership of frequencies.
> Contesters destroying telephone quality SSB chit chat of rag chewers.
> Hemorrhoid, aches and pains, and medication QSO content.
> Political QSO's.
> High Power.
> Low Power.
> Big antennae.
> No antennae.
> Stations with maintenance crews.
> Stations hiding in a closet.
> TVI.
> BCI.
> RFI.
> Front Row Monkeys.
> Back Row Monkeys.
> Audio adjustment # 2437.
>
> Funny how some things bug me, and some things make me laugh.
> Guess I better to just learn to laugh more - at more,
> and get bugged less - at less.
> Maybe then, I'm gonna find I enjoy my hobby every bit as much as I seem to
> keep telling myself.
>
> Who else wants to join me in trying to enjoy the hobby enough to get past
> most of the above list?
>
> I really do like to laugh.
> Maybe ham radio and laughter would make for a great day on a repeated
basis.
> Bob Perring
> ...........................................
> Amateur Radio Station N5RP
> mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
> N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>
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>From K4tmc at aol.com Sat Apr 20 11:31:32 2002
From: K4tmc@aol.com (K4tmc@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] May QST arrives
Message-ID: <b2.a470a1c.29f2d5c4@aol.com>
A stop by the PO box this morning resulted in the latest issues of QST.
Front cover photo of the W8ZR EZ-Tuner; with this issue containing Part 2 of
the related article.
Contest related items:
The EZ-Tuner, Part 2
A DXpedition to Niger (during the ARRL DX SSB Contest)
A Novice Contester Gets His
DXing with Polar Bears (and 10 Meter contesting)
The Evolution of the World Radiosport Team Championships
Product Review - ICOM IC-746PRO transceiver
Results - 2001 ARRL International EME Competition
Rules - ARRL Field Day 2002 and June VHF QSO Party
Other interesting items:
It Seems To Us (editorial) Ever Upward (the quest for higher and higher
frequencies)
The St. Loius Switcher (13.8 V at 20 A from a PC power supply)
A Microphone Adapter for the IC-706
A 6-Meter Quad-Turnstile
One Stealthy Delta (an HF Delta Loop)
Somewhere There's a Good Home for a Boat Anchor
What Can You Do with a Dip Meter?
Hints & Kinks - Coiling wire or rope without kinks; FT1000 for digital mode
USB/LSB
Happenings - ARRL Asks FCC to Eliminate, "Refarm" Novice CW Bands
How's DX? - More on the Pileups and Behavior
The World Above 50 MHz - The Problem with DX Records
Old Radio - Tube Lore (the 813)
Ads:
Inside-cover, full-page, bright orange ad for the Florida QSO Party (OK, this
is not the April issue)
Am-Com and High Sierra have a combined full-page ad for the Am-Com Antenna
Controller and the HS-1500MKII Antenna.
SGC has full-page ad for their new product, the STEALTH Kit (Smart Tuning
Emergency Antenna Loop Tactical Hf), which is basically an SG-237 tuner, 80
ft of wire, and some nylon rope.
Radio Shack has a cute ad for their new dual band HT. It is in one of those
white foam trays that you buy meat in at the local supermarket,
shrink-wrapped, and with a label stating "our ham is 100% FCC choice".
The ARRL has a new book - Simple and Fun Antennas for Hams.
Alpha Power has ad with picture of their new ALPHA 6 six-meter 1500W
amplifier.
Yaesu's inside-backcover-page ad shows their new "ultra-rugged submersible
tri-band magnesium handie" labeled Submersible VX-7R.
How long before we will have an "ultra-rugged submersible magnesium
FT1000MP-MKV Field Plus"? Aren't island Dxpeditioners demanding something
like this? And with its own built-in water-activated EPIRB!
73 & High Rates,
Henry Pollock - K4TMC
Raleigh, NC
Oops, don't forget the OJ QSO Party! Oops again; it's the Florida QSO Party!
OK JIm...go...
>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Sat Apr 20 08:42:12 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spotting
In-Reply-To: <20020420042905.25369.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020420144212.19523.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com>
Iassume the message about everyone self spotting
and allowing all to do this was in jest. I will
take it as such.
To cut back on the 'bogus spotting' perhaps a
good tack to take would be for the Internet
accessible spotting networks (and I guess the
other systems as well) to implement callsign
checks using current callsign resource checkers.
(QRZ/BUCKMASTER, registration by individual to
verify they arewho they say they are). I'm not a
progrmamerso I'll not even attempt to proffer a
suggestionon the 'how'. I leave that to the
pro's.
When you log in it checks your call against a
master list. If good...you get
through.Thisdoesn't stop the spoofer, but if it
is a problem, then there are tracing items which
can find out the where. It's not easy..but if we
start NOW.. we canimplement things and improve
them. Again, I'm not saying 'HOW' just offering
food for thought.
Spotting is here to stay. It's not going away and
itis a useful tool having value, indeed. Best we
can do with the genie that is well and good out
of the bottle is figure out a wayto manage and
manipulate it.
Just one small suggestion and idea.
best 73
CU in the Pileups!
Chuck K3FT
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>From n2mg at contesting.com Sat Apr 20 13:40:59 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
Message-ID:
<20020420124100.28192.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
For ARRL contests, email N1ND@arrl.org and request the
specific contest(s).
For CQWW, you were (should have been) sent instructions
in an email with the URL and an access number.
73 Mike N2MG
On Sat, 20 April 2002, "Rex Maner" wrote
>
> How can I get one for SSCW and find the UBN for CQ
and ARRL??
> Not a computer geek/guru
> QUACK
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 15:19
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN
Information
>
>
> >
> > When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of
my CQWW logs,
> > I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN
information.
> >
> >
> > I may have gotten that email and subsequent
information, but
> > if I did, I no longer have it.
> >
> > How can I get it (again)?
> >
> > Eric W3DQ
> > Washington DC
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Apr 20 19:08:16 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging
Message-ID: <025d01c1e8b9$4882a5c0$03010a0a@office1>
I've just been asked by my club's Field Day chairman to serve on the
computer/logging committee. First order of business is to decide on a
logging program for this year.
Two complications:
1) we have a blind amateur in the club, so a lot of Windows oriented
packages won't work because of problems with his text-to-voice hardware &
software
2) they would like to network the two or three operating positions
together.
So far, WriteLog has been suggested. Personally, I like CT but I know
networking it can be cranky. And we are going to talk to Tom N3EQF about
Log-EQF & Win-EQF in the next few days, when we can catch up to him
(advantage of him being a local!)
Any suggestions?
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
"There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
probably."
--John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 20 23:34:56 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #1
References: <009301c1e746$70c1f190$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Message-ID: <3CC1DF00.658759FD@harborside.com>
Jamie Dupree wrote:
>
> Contesters:
>
> This post begins a review of spots from the 2002 WPX SSB contest.
I was wondering, what happens if a QRP station uses packet
spotting. Does that automatically take him (or her) out of the
QRP category and put them in LP assisted? I don't think there is
such a thing as QRP assisted is there? 73
Tom W7WHY
>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 20 23:41:34 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <3CC1E08E.6B0E2AD5@harborside.com>
jljarvis wrote:
> Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
Or just forget about packet and do it without spotting at all.
No? Why not.
Tom W7WHY
>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 20 23:51:19 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
References: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204190819300.9820-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <3CC1E2D7.F8704B63@harborside.com>
Zack Widup wrote:
> And what constitutes an "inactive station"?
I would think the Buckmaster callsign lookup is a good spot to
start (where he got lots of his data). If there is no such
callsign issued, I'd be pretty sure it's "inactive."
Tom W7WHY
>From ve6jy at freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Sun Apr 21 00:35:34 2002
From: ve6jy@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (VE6JY Don Moman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging
References: <025d01c1e8b9$4882a5c0$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <003501c1e8bb$b192c980$ddcea1c6@ve6jy>
TRlog would be (and is) my choice. It's especially suited to field day since
it can run on a wide range of older machines and laptops and is very easy
to network and interface to the radios (be sure you have enough serial
ports - 2 per machine is handy. The intuitive use of the enter and
escape keys make for easy learning and logging for a new user. All files are
plain ascii txt so if you do have a problem with power or hd problems, it's
a lot easier to "fix" or recover a corrupted text file than a bin type. TR
is very bulletproof if you do have a power crash (who forgot to fuel the
genny?) which is another plus. Support from the author, N6TR and the TRlog
reflector is tops.
As a bonus, the free sample version supports Field day.
http://www.qth.com/tr/free.html
73 Don
VE6JY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 23:08
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging
> I've just been asked by my club's Field Day chairman to serve on the
> computer/logging committee. First order of business is to decide on a
> logging program for this year.
>
> Two complications:
>
> 1) we have a blind amateur in the club, so a lot of Windows oriented
> packages won't work because of problems with his text-to-voice hardware &
> software
>
> 2) they would like to network the two or three operating positions
> together.
>
> So far, WriteLog has been suggested. Personally, I like CT but I know
> networking it can be cranky. And we are going to talk to Tom N3EQF about
> Log-EQF & Win-EQF in the next few days, when we can catch up to him
> (advantage of him being a local!)
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "There's No Crying in Baseball!"
> -- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
>
> "There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
> probably."
> --John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From k2qmf at juno.com Sat Apr 20 21:38:01 2002
From: k2qmf@juno.com (k2qmf@juno.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Message-ID: <20020420.204438.-88046435.0.K2QMF@juno.com>
Because it's more "FUN" to use packet for some of us...
K2QMF
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 22:41:34 +0100 Tom Osborne <w7why@harborside.com>
writes:
>
>
> jljarvis wrote:
>
> > Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> > Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
>
>
> Or just forget about packet and do it without spotting at all.
> No? Why not.
> Tom W7WHY
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
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>From wd3q at erols.com Sat Apr 20 23:19:35 2002
From: wd3q@erols.com (Eric Rosenberg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020420221834.009fb640@pop3.norton.antivirus>
This worked for me.
Thanks Steve for the suggestion, and Larry (N6TW) for the quick
response!
Eric W3DQ
Washington, DC
>Reply-To: "Steve Baron - KB3MM" <SteveBaron@StarLinX.com>
>From: "Steve Baron - KB3MM" <SteveBaron@StarLinX.com>
>To: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700
>
>Go to www.cqww.com and send an e-mail to N6TW (address on that page).
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
>To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 14:19
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
>
>
> >
> > When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of my CQWW logs,
> > I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN information.
> >
> > I may have gotten that email and subsequent information, but
> > if I did, I no longer have it.
> >
> > How can I get it (again)?
> >
> > Eric W3DQ
> > Washington DC
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>From k2kw at prodigy.net Sun Apr 21 01:02:22 2002
From: k2kw@prodigy.net (KEN SILVERMAN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Visalia Contest Dinner - It's not too late!
Message-ID: <002301c1e902$7e1694a0$97d3fea9@a>
We still have seats available for the Contest Dinner at Visalia! It's not
too late to join the fun. Dr. Beldar's been doing some last minute consumer
research, and his presentation on new contesting products of the future
should not be missed!
Please get your reservations into Tom, K5RC (below) ASAP. All dinner
reservations need to be done by Tuesday.
73, Kenny K2KW
----------------------
4th Annual International DX Convention Contest Dinner
Evening Events: Dinner, short contesting program, guest speaker, and door
prizes. Guest speaker: Dr Beldar - "Dr Beldar's Contest Emporium"
Products you are not likely to see at HRO!
Doors and cash bar open at 7:00 p.m. Dinner is served at 8:00 p.m. (Note:
This dinner is not part of the convention registration fee, and is a
separate function open to all who wish to join the fun.)
The dinner will be held in the Oak and Maple rooms at the Holiday Inn
Visalia, 9000 West Airport Drive, Visalia, CA
Many contesters from around the world have already made their reservations.
You don't want to miss this opportunity to meet and hang out with top
contesters and DXers!
Dinner Details:
Menu: Prime Rib of Beef -- $29.00 or Chicken Princess -- $23.00
Meals include: salad, entree, baked potato, green beans almondine, bread,
tea/coffee, chocolate mousse dessert and all taxes and gratuity. Chicken
Princess is a grilled chicken breast topped with asparagus, shrimp, and a
cream-wine sauce. Cash bar will remain open during dinner.
Tables are set in rounds of 10, no reserved seating.
Tickets: Deadline for ticket orders is Tuesday, April 23, 2002. Tickets are
not being sold at the door. Tickets will not be mailed, but will be held at
the door and available at 6pm, Friday, April 26, 2002.
You can only order tickets by calling, faxing, e-mailing or snail-mail to:
Tom Taormina, K5RC
Productivity Resources
PO Box 1126
Virginia City NV 89440
775-847-7929
775-847-7930 (FAX)
k5rc@aol.com
Payment Methods: Visa/MC/Amex (include expiration date, and name as it
appears on the card), checks, money order, or cash - sorry, no CODs. Credit
card billings will show up as "Productivity Resources".
Refund Policy: Dinner orders must be guaranteed with the hotel, so we
cannot offer refunds on or after Wednesday, April 24, 2002. You are free to
resell your dinner if you cannot make the event.
>From k1ir at designet.com Sun Apr 21 09:31:43 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] (no subject)
Message-ID: <1lorwrtb0j6ozq1.210420020831@designet-jsi>
Wayne,
A problem that occurs at only 200W will almost certainly be in the driven
element. You may have to take it down and find the loose hardware, bad
connection or clean up one of the loading coils, but you don't have to buy a
new antenna!
73,
Jim K1IR
[Towertalk] Hy=Gain 402BA-S
Wayne F. King wfking@worldnet.att.net
Sun, 21 Apr 2002 05:49:32 -0400
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HI Folks,
I have a HY-GAIN 402BA-S 40 meter 2 el beam. It works fine on RX and 100
watts TX. However it does not like high power anymore. Instant SWR
infinity with the PA on. Even at 200 watts it appears to arch over. As
long as I run less then 150 watts it's fine.
It's mounted at 110' and 15' above a Mosley Pro-57A. It's feed with 1/2"
heliax and a RG-214U jumper to a WX0B 1.1 balun. I checked the feedline
to the balun with a 50 ohm load and it's fine. The balun checked out
fine. In fact I substituted a coax balun and still the same problem.
I thought I would run this by you folks before I take it down. Hopefully
someone has a handle on this and maybe a fix other then buying a new
antenna.
Thanks in advance.
Wayne N2WK
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Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
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>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sun Apr 21 13:48:50 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: so2r off the shelf?
In-Reply-To: <003901c1e3c5$e0628520$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <000501c1e932$e34ff7f0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Again I thank everyone who replied to the original question I posed
about so2r equipment that I could get off the shelf. I have finally
filtered and read the replies and summarized them on my web site at
http://www.k1ttt.net/technote/tworadio.html. In this summary I have
left out replies that said things like: 'go to this website for
everything', or 'I know xxx uses this stuff', or 'switch to writelog and
use their unique stuff', or 'trlog is better', or 'I have a great
homebrew setup', or 'these look good on the web site, but I have never
used them'. I am also leaving out the ones that went on about how to
setup filters and stubs, as I stated I am presently set up for m/m
operation so I know about filtering, what I am looking for is how to
switch everything the best way for so2r. If you want to review the
whole thread it is available in the archives of course.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yccc-admin@yccc.org [mailto:yccc-admin@yccc.org] On Behalf Of
David
> Robbins
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 15:06
> To: YCCC
> Subject: [YCCC] so2r off the shelf?
>
>
> I hate to reinvent the wheel, don't have a lot of time to homebrew or
> put together kits, and don't know much about operating so2r besides
what
> I have seen from a few guest operators. But I am ready to buy the
stuff
> needed to make a better so2r setup option on my m/m station. I am
> looking to buy as much as possible, preferably including cables
already
> made up.
>
> The equipment would be:
> 2x ft-1000mp
> heil proset headset
> ct or na logging software
> dvp board for voice keying
> aea morsemachine or other external keyer(s)
> each band has its own coax coming in to the table
>
> What I am looking for are suggestions for 2 or 3 things:
> 1. a headset/keyer/mic/dvp switch with cables
> 2. a 6 antenna to 2 radio antenna switch with band decoder for each
> radio and control cables.
> 3. a 6 band 2 radio bandpass filter switch for between the radios and
> amps, or possibly two separate switched bandpass filters with cables
and
> decoder.
>
> Could one decoder run both the antenna switch and bandpass filter
> switch?
>
> What is available off the shelf to do this?
>
> What are the pro's and con's of different models that are available,
if
> there are choices?
>
> Is it better to run 1 computer or 2?? Why??
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> YCCC Reflector
> yccc@yccc.org
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/yccc
>From dhenderson at arrl.org Sun Apr 21 10:28:48 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Log Checking Reports for ARRL SS
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B781B@KAHLESS>
Hey Guys:
Issuing the Log Checking Reports (since they are not UBNs ala CQ we are
referring to them as LCRs) is not an automated process. We will be
discussing the best way to make them available and will make an announcement
about it in the next few days. Please hold your requests for them - since
it may entail a separate email address. Thanks for yor patience and
understanding.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From k0rc at pclink.com Mon Apr 22 09:54:53 2002
From: k0rc@pclink.com (k0rc)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
References: <190402109.26373@webbox.com>
Message-ID: <10b601c1ea05$47e09080$25010bce@elite233>
Eric,
Bob, K3EST, will send you your password in a private email if you ask him.
Maybe the website will include a "password engine" in the future to
eliminate this administrative task. I would guess you and I are not the
only ones requesting a "fill" on their password.
73 de Bob - K0RC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:19 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
>
> When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of my CQWW logs,
> I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN information.
>
>
> I may have gotten that email and subsequent information, but
> if I did, I no longer have it.
>
> How can I get it (again)?
>
> Eric W3DQ
> Washington DC
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From phmonnard at bluewin.ch Sun Apr 21 15:26:32 2002
From: phmonnard@bluewin.ch (Philippe Monnard)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Helvetia 26 contest
Message-ID: <3CC2AFF8.6D93F63E@bluewin.ch>
Hello
Dont forget next week end 27 and 28 april 2002
The Helvetia 2002 contest
Start on 27 april 2002 at 1300 UTC until 28 april 2002 at 1300 UTC
ON 1.8 (cw only) - 3.5 - 7 - 14 - 21 - 28 MHz
CW/SSB
Contact with swiss station 3 points
Multi 1 by canton per band
Log must be sent until the 20 of may 2002
to : Hermann Stein HB9CRV
Br?elmatten 13
4410 Liestal
Switzerland
or by e-mail in ASCII format + summary sheet to: contest@uska.ch
You can find the complete rules http://www.uska.ch
see you in the contest
73's qro
Phil - HB9ARF
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sun Apr 21 11:37:31 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Reply Summary (to date)
Message-ID: <040101c1e942$348f3b80$03010a0a@office1>
Thanks to all who've replied to me on the FD Logging software question I
posed yesterday.
Examining the replies has been interesting.
In terms of raw numbers, the overwhelming number of responses have been in
favor of TRLog. Interestingly enough, most of these responses have come
from the TRLog reflector, NOT the CQ-Contest reflector... since one of the
replies to me was cross-posted.
Sticking solely to reponses from CQ-Contest, TRLog still had the most
favorable responses, with NA and CT both tied for a close second. But most
of the CT comments have not been ringing endorsements -- most have basically
told me that since I already own CT, might as well stick with it rather than
learn a new package. Also interesting comments there.
I'm still interested in further comments from anyone familiar with these
three packages. Meantime I'm going to have to hunt up copies of TRLog & NA
for comparison... a thought that still makes me shudder (several years ago,
I once asked a few questions about one of these on the Pa QSO Party
reflector and unexpectedly received a phone call from the distributor who
had been told I was ready to buy it!)
A few additional comments:
Several people have told me that networking the laptops for FD isn't worth
the aggravation. Actually, I agree, but I was asked to check into it. (
Don't shoot the messenger! )
Several others have had... interesting reactions to my comment regarding our
blind member. I've been called Politcally Correct ( please! ) for even
mentioning it; and prejuduced for not referring to him as "visually
impaired" instead of "blind." Must be doing something right if I'm ticking
off both sides of THAT nonsense. In any event, while I appreciate the
well-meant comments on alternatives to sticking to text-based software so
that Shawn's text-to-voice stuff would work... well, we don't work that way
here, sorry. He's a member of our club, he's a great operator, and a
reasonable request like this is not a burden, merely a small problem to be
solved. Sorry a few don't look at it that way, but that's life.
Besides, the alternative is that he'll cook again this year. (Think I'm
kidding? Go to http://doit.pgh.net/~wolfie/washrag.htm, pull up the July
2001 issue, and look at Page 7) Although a cross-state wedding kept me from
the club FD op last year, I hear that his burgers were first-rate...
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Sun Apr 21 14:05:31 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEILDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
W1MOO, 5A VT, will change from TR to Writelog this year.
6 node ethernet network....5 stations and a site-executive laptop.
Last year, TR's quirky use of memory cost us 50Q's and two key
hours of downtime on one cw station, when the bands were hot.
Ethernet vs. rs232c should improve rfi issues across the site.
Ease of setup of networked operation in Writelog will save us
setup and debug time.
And we've got a TR expert in our midst; although he gets to
sleep and go to church! So we're switching programs despite
his feelings for TR.
Last year's disaster happened during the sleep/church period,
of course. Thank you, Father Murphy! :)
Jim/N2EA
Message: 4
From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Reply Summary (to date)
Thanks to all who've replied to me on the FD Logging software question I
posed yesterday.
Jim Jarvis
Keithley Instruments
Essex Vermont
802 872 5830 voice
802 872 5831 fax
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Sun Apr 21 17:44:37 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ronald Rossi)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging
References: <025d01c1e8b9$4882a5c0$03010a0a@office1>
<003501c1e8bb$b192c980$ddcea1c6@ve6jy>
Message-ID: <3CC324B5.87DDC2AB@btv.ibm.com>
Even better yet is the free version will very likely be updated to the most
recent in time for FD!
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron (kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
VE6JY Don Moman wrote:
>
> TRlog would be (and is) my choice. It's especially suited to field day since
> it can run on a wide range of older machines and laptops and is very easy
> to network and interface to the radios (be sure you have enough serial
> ports - 2 per machine is handy. The intuitive use of the enter and
> escape keys make for easy learning and logging for a new user. All files are
> plain ascii txt so if you do have a problem with power or hd problems, it's
> a lot easier to "fix" or recover a corrupted text file than a bin type. TR
> is very bulletproof if you do have a power crash (who forgot to fuel the
> genny?) which is another plus. Support from the author, N6TR and the TRlog
> reflector is tops.
>
> As a bonus, the free sample version supports Field day.
> http://www.qth.com/tr/free.html
>
> 73 Don
> VE6JY
>From py2ny at arrl.net Sun Apr 21 19:02:42 2002
From: py2ny@arrl.net (PY2NY - Vitor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio 2002
Message-ID: <013801c1e978$13f2a160$6d14d2c8@asbyte.com.br>
Hello my friends - anybody can send me
in private, any information and home page
for Ham Radio 2002 in Germany? Including
some cities to visit around, and restaurants
or places to visit... Good hotels, anything
will be nice because my wife and me will
try to go there, this year...
Many thanks and see all of you in contest...
PY2NY - Vitor Luis Aidar dos Santos
Caixa Postal 204
Jaboticabal, SP - Brasil - 14870-970
Phone: (16) 97854218
E-mail: py2ny@arrl.net
>From mi2az05 at netscape.net Sun Apr 21 18:24:00 2002
From: mi2az05@netscape.net (mi2az05@netscape.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
Message-ID: <6FADC906.22E96578.001FB510@netscape.net>
I have been reading the posts on FD software and the networking issue. Am I
missing something, why are the computers being networked? No need for it at FD
is there? All you submit is a dupesheet. Just wondering why the importance of
networking at FD?
Barry
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>From k5zd at charter.net Sun Apr 21 23:23:55 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
In-Reply-To: <6FADC906.22E96578.001FB510@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDMEDGDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
It gives you the flexibility to use any station on any band. By having all
the computers networked, they all have the current log of stations worked
and won't have to waste time chasing dupes.
For operations where stations are dedicated to bands or modes, it is
probably better to avoid the hassle/issues of networking. Keep it simple!
K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of
> mi2az05@netscape.net
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 21:24 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
>
>
> I have been reading the posts on FD software and the networking
> issue. Am I missing something, why are the computers being
> networked? No need for it at FD is there? All you submit is a
> dupesheet. Just wondering why the importance of networking at FD?
>
> Barry
>
>
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sun Apr 21 20:26:34 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Software, Take 2
Message-ID: <076c01c1e98c$1bcd09c0$03010a0a@office1>
Murphy's Law has struck.
Talked with our blind amateur, about logging software today. Found out, to
my embarresment, that somewhere along the way, his saying that his software
could NOT handle a DOS logging program got changed around to where I was
told that his software could ONLY handle DOS. *sigh* Sorry about that.
Part of that came about because his stuff won't work with all Windows apps
either (this came up 2 years ago at the club Pa QSO Party operation, when we
found out his stuff wouldn't work with KA3JWE's logging program for the
'test.)
So... turns out I'm looking for a Windows-based logging program to use for
Field Day. New candidates include Win-EQF and N1MM's package. Any other
suggestions?
...yes, we're still thinking about Networking, too. Found out that last
year, someone went home for the night with their rig & laptop, and took the
20 Phone log with them. So the next op started working a bunch of dupes.
So it goes...
73, ron wn3vaw
"There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
probably."
--John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
>From TJCoker at lasd.org Sun Apr 21 17:58:37 2002
From: TJCoker@lasd.org (Coker, Timothy J)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Yaesu FT-1000D or Ft-1000 Mk V/Field for contesting?
Message-ID: <D418C6B4A038D611BF1900508B2CC5D91EBA89@1-CRDF-MAIL>
Hello, I am in the market for an upgraded radio for contest/dxing purposes.
I currently own a Kenwood TS-850SAT and would like to purchase a new or used
top of the line Yaesu to replace this radio with.
I have the choice of selecting between the following radios:
FT-1000D at a used price $2000-2300 with filters
FT-1000MP Mk V new
FT-1000MP Mk V Field new
I will be taking my radio to other ham shacks to guest op during contests as
I live in an apartment at this time. Occasionally I might want to lug along
a radio when staying in a cabin while camping. I mainly operate SSB but do
CW when handing out points in tests and when chasing DX. Computer
interfacing will be done with Writelog and DX4WIN software.
I'm leaning towards a 1000D based on the advice of a ham friend who I
consider very knowledgeable with various radio lines as he works in the
sales end of ham radio. I would love to hear any suggestions based on your
thoughts between these 3 radios. My emphasis is on contesting capabilities
using SSB and CW to lesser extent. Dxing comes 2nd in my operating habits as
a between contest activity.
Will I miss the DSP features introduced with the MP Mk V line? Or will the
"pinnacle of analogue technology" suffice just fine for contest operation?
The 200 watts output of the 1000D and Mk V seems great, but I'd just as
rather go legal limit if 100 watts doesn't work right off the bat, so I
don't think that the extra power is a huge issue when you've got a linear in
the shack. Any radio I buy will be loaded with filters, in the choice of the
Mark V series it will obviously bring the cost well over the "loaded, used
D"
Thanks a lot for anyone's opinions and thoughts, 73, Tim N6WIN.
>From k2wr at njdxa.org Mon Apr 22 00:25:53 2002
From: k2wr@njdxa.org (Rich K2WR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio 2002
References: <013801c1e978$13f2a160$6d14d2c8@asbyte.com.br>
Message-ID: <002401c1e9ad$68e90440$0200a8c0@5j08601>
Vitor (and others interested):
Friedrichshafen Messe (Convention Center):
http://www.messe-fn.de/fairs/ham_radio/index.php3
D.A.R.C. info page (in German):
http://home.t-online.de/home/sauter.up/darc/seiten/ham.htm
English:
http://www.darc.de/referate/ausland/foreign/exhibit.html
Portugese:
http://www.darc.de/referate/ausland/CT/aus-port.html
I went last year and had a great time. Making arrangements to go again this
year. Hope to see you there.
73, Rich K2WR
>From n2mg at contesting.com Mon Apr 22 06:19:06 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
Message-ID:
<20020422051908.11933.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Also,
1) The ability to chat (great for those overnight
hours when only the operators are awake and nobody's
sure that anyone is manning the generators as well as
for other less-serious reasons).
2) The entire operations' log is on all machines (good
for backup purposes).
3) Thanks to number 2, the convenience of seeing the
total score on any given machine.
73 Mike N2MG
On Sun, 21 April 2002, "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" wrote
>
> It gives you the flexibility to use any station on
any band. By having all
> the computers networked, they all have the current
log of stations worked
> and won't have to waste time chasing dupes.
>
> For operations where stations are dedicated to bands
or modes, it is
> probably better to avoid the hassle/issues of
networking. Keep it simple!
>
> K5ZD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of
> > mi2az05@netscape.net
> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 21:24 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
> >
> >
> > I have been reading the posts on FD software and
the networking
> > issue. Am I missing something, why are the
computers being
> > networked? No need for it at FD is there? All you
submit is a
> > dupesheet. Just wondering why the importance of
networking at FD?
> >
> > Barry
> >
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Mon Apr 22 04:16:23 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Reply Summary (to date)
References: <040101c1e942$348f3b80$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <000301c1ea01$ab6e8b60$012bfa43@computer>
Hi Ron
Go to the webe site ac6v.com tons on free ware there and NA is one of them.
The operation is basicly the same as CT and works on a DOS mach. or also on
win ME in a DOS window in ME or exit to DOS prompt is better.
I use it here for all contest and have no problems.
NO reason to LINK computers for FD other than to show it can be done. Hand
everyone a floppy and tell everyone to copy the whaateverfd.QDF to it post
FD take them home and do all the logs on your on computer.
Rex K7QQ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 15:37
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Reply Summary (to date)
> Thanks to all who've replied to me on the FD Logging software question I
> posed yesterday.
>
> Examining the replies has been interesting.
>
> In terms of raw numbers, the overwhelming number of responses have been in
> favor of TRLog. Interestingly enough, most of these responses have come
> from the TRLog reflector, NOT the CQ-Contest reflector... since one of the
> replies to me was cross-posted.
>
> Sticking solely to reponses from CQ-Contest, TRLog still had the most
> favorable responses, with NA and CT both tied for a close second. But
most
> of the CT comments have not been ringing endorsements -- most have
basically
> told me that since I already own CT, might as well stick with it rather
than
> learn a new package. Also interesting comments there.
>
> I'm still interested in further comments from anyone familiar with these
> three packages. Meantime I'm going to have to hunt up copies of TRLog &
NA
> for comparison... a thought that still makes me shudder (several years
ago,
> I once asked a few questions about one of these on the Pa QSO Party
> reflector and unexpectedly received a phone call from the distributor who
> had been told I was ready to buy it!)
>
> A few additional comments:
> Several people have told me that networking the laptops for FD isn't worth
> the aggravation. Actually, I agree, but I was asked to check into it. (
> Don't shoot the messenger! )
>
> Several others have had... interesting reactions to my comment regarding
our
> blind member. I've been called Politcally Correct ( please! ) for even
> mentioning it; and prejuduced for not referring to him as "visually
> impaired" instead of "blind." Must be doing something right if I'm
ticking
> off both sides of THAT nonsense. In any event, while I appreciate the
> well-meant comments on alternatives to sticking to text-based software so
> that Shawn's text-to-voice stuff would work... well, we don't work that
way
> here, sorry. He's a member of our club, he's a great operator, and a
> reasonable request like this is not a burden, merely a small problem to be
> solved. Sorry a few don't look at it that way, but that's life.
>
> Besides, the alternative is that he'll cook again this year. (Think I'm
> kidding? Go to http://doit.pgh.net/~wolfie/washrag.htm, pull up the July
> 2001 issue, and look at Page 7) Although a cross-state wedding kept me
from
> the club FD op last year, I hear that his burgers were first-rate...
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
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> -- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
>
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>From ad1c at yahoo.com Mon Apr 22 08:15:16 2002
From: ad1c@yahoo.com (Jim Reisert)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
In-Reply-To:
<20020422051908.11933.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <20020422141516.77032.qmail@web13604.mail.yahoo.com>
--- Mike Gilmer - N2MG <n2mg@contesting.com> wrote:
> 1) The ability to
> 2) The entire operations' log is on all machines (good
> for backup purposes).
> 3) Thanks to number 2, the convenience of seeing the
> total score on any given machine.
And for us hard-core multi-op contesters, the ability to pass QSOs, i.e. "Hey,
we're also CQing on 21.245, look for us there right now!"
73 - Jim AD1C
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 22 08:06:50 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204221406.g3ME6oX27947@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
WX5S(@W6YX) 4553 1078 48 10,743,348 NCCC
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 48 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
NZ1U(@KB1H) 2207 896 34 5,264,896 YCCC
NT6K 2254 845 48 4,173,455 NCCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
N4WSM 260 209 146,091 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K6LRN 333 255 208,640 NCCC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
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USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
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USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
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USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
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USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
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USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
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USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
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USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
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USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ1U KB1DFB,KB1H,N1XS
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
YW4M DL2GG,YV2IF,YV3AZC,YV4FZM,YV4GLD,YV4GME,YV4YC,
YV5AMH,YV5EED,YV5IQJ,YV5IVB,YV5LMW
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 22 08:09:48 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
22Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204221409.g3ME9mr27956@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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Non-USA M/M HP
YW4M 9455 1415 48 45,210,665
OT2A 9687 1523 37,950,114
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
VE7SCC 2120 0 48 4,406,904 Coquitlam Amateur Ra
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Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
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Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
P40V 6610 1251 48 25,617,978 NCCC
3V8BB 5868 1238 48 23,900,828 YU CC
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCF
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
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Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
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Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
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Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
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Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
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Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
VE7UQ 689 391 676,821
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 @12 78,210
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Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCF
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
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Non-USA SOAB LP
VP5V(W5AO) 4333 990 36 10,409,850 OkDX
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 542 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
ZD9IR 756 387 15 877,716
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
VE5SF 628 366 9 543,510
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
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Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
TM4K(F5BEG) 1040 547 1,346,714
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCF
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Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
Z33AA 928 501 1,122,240
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
VK4NEF 606 390 672,360
VE1ASJ 591 378 26 556,794
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
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Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
UT7QF 2334 929 35 4,825,226 UCC
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCF
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
YT1RA 1227 588 36 1,535,268 YU CC
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
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Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
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Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14.4 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
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Non-USA SOSB160 LP
4N1A(YU1EA) 154 121 38,115
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Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCF
YT9X(YZ1KA) 1346 629 36 1,697,042 YU CC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
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Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
PJ2H(W0CG) 1098 500 21 3,226,000 Caribbean Contesting
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
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Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
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Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
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Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ1U KB1DFB,KB1H,N1XS
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
YW4M DL2GG,YV2IF,YV3AZC,YV4FZM,YV4GLD,YV4GME,YV4YC,
YV5AMH,YV5EED,YV5IQJ,YV5IVB,YV5LMW
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 22 08:30:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] EU Sprint Sprints - CW/SSB 22Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020422072901.00a46650@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 EU Spring Sprint, CW - Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 5, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Paolo Cortese, I2UIY
PO Box 14
27043 Broni (PV)
Italy
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 148 4 148
M0TTT 136 4 136
LY2OX 132 132 LDXG
UY5ZZ 124 124 UCC
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
9A7P(9A6XX) 126 3:20 126 WWYC
I2WIJ 55 1 55
EI/G4BUO 32 1.2 32
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 22 08:15:52 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204221415.g3MEFqN27969@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: mqp@contesting.com
Mail logs to:
Mad River Radio Club
c/o Dave Pruett
2727 Harris Road
Ypsilanti, MI 48198
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
M/M HP
K8AA 302 560 102 89 11 222,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
Mobile LP
K5OT/M 205 77 51 32 40,421 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
Single Op HP
N9RV 145 89 58 37 6 36,005 SMC
K8DX 76 95 77 0 4 19,019 MRRC
VE7FO 38 16 25 12 5 3,404
VK2CZ 0 1 0 1 1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
Single Op LP
K8KHZ 74 311 39 90 12 59,211 Hazel Park ARC
K8SIA 185 120 56 51 7 52,430 MRRC
K7SV 166 100 64 42 11 45,792 PVRC
AD1C 157 49 72 31 10 37,389 YCCC
NY1S 118 45 63 23 11 24,116
KN4Y 150 0 73 0 12 21,900 FCG
N2CU 63 37 30 19 3 7,987 Western NY DX Assn
NF4A 52 32 32 15 6,392 FCG
WN6K 40 25 22 14 3,780 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
Single Op QRP
K3WW 82 19 47 14 6 11,163 FRC
Operators:
K8AA K8AA,KB8ECG,NU8Z
>From jimdstearns at msn.com Mon Apr 22 11:36:44 2002
From: jimdstearns@msn.com (Jim Stearns)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
In-Reply-To:
<20020422051908.11933.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <IPEKKPKNPHNBJJOEKHCLEENDCMAA.jimdstearns@msn.com>
Hello All,
Networking is great.....
However, it should be tested well in advance, startup scripts written, etc.
I've seen too many contesting hours missed do to the net going down and
people wanting you to re-boot, change drivers, NIC cards, etc.
We do not network but we do configure all our individual computers with a
bat file so if we get a pwr surge, lightning shut downs, etc. the Op can
just type the name of the .bat file and he is back on the air.
GL in the contest.
73
* Jim, W4MGM
* Member Woodbridge Wireless, Inc., ARC
* Est. 1972
* See WWI Homepage for Membership Information and Events
* WWW.WoodbridgeWireless.Org
* "Radio Amateurs in Community Action"
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Mike Gilmer - N2MG
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 8:19 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
Also,
1) The ability to chat (great for those overnight
hours when only the operators are awake and nobody's
sure that anyone is manning the generators as well as
for other less-serious reasons).
2) The entire operations' log is on all machines (good
for backup purposes).
3) Thanks to number 2, the convenience of seeing the
total score on any given machine.
73 Mike N2MG
On Sun, 21 April 2002, "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" wrote
>
> It gives you the flexibility to use any station on
any band. By having all
> the computers networked, they all have the current
log of stations worked
> and won't have to waste time chasing dupes.
>
> For operations where stations are dedicated to bands
or modes, it is
> probably better to avoid the hassle/issues of
networking. Keep it simple!
>
> K5ZD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of
> > mi2az05@netscape.net
> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 21:24 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
> >
> >
> > I have been reading the posts on FD software and
the networking
> > issue. Am I missing something, why are the
computers being
> > networked? No need for it at FD is there? All you
submit is a
> > dupesheet. Just wondering why the importance of
networking at FD?
> >
> > Barry
> >
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>From n2mg at contesting.com Mon Apr 22 08:45:26 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
Message-ID:
<20020422074526.14896.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Mon, 22 April 2002, "Jim Stearns" wrote
> we do configure all our individual computers with a
> bat file so if we get a pwr surge, lightning shut
> downs, etc. the Op can just type the name of
> the .bat file and he is back on the air.
I do this for ALL contests. I have contest-specific
batch files (with useful names, like CQWWCW01.bat)
that are usually based on last year's setup. These
load the TSRs, have the right command-line stuff,
whatever... but, perhaps more importantly, I have
another one called GO.BAT that calls the contest-
specific one. All I ever need to do in the event of a
crash is type "GO".
73,
Mike
n2mg@contesting.com
________________________________________________
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http://www.peoplepc.com
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Mon Apr 22 16:45:13 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
In-Reply-To:
<20020422074526.14896.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <000901c1ea14$b2160e80$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
> > we do configure all our individual computers with a
> > bat file so if we get a pwr surge, lightning shut
> > downs, etc. the Op can just type the name of
> > the .bat file and he is back on the air.
>
> I do this for ALL contests. I have contest-specific
> batch files (with useful names, like CQWWCW01.bat)
> that are usually based on last year's setup. These
> load the TSRs, have the right command-line stuff,
> whatever... but, perhaps more importantly, I have
> another one called GO.BAT that calls the contest-
> specific one. All I ever need to do in the event of a
> crash is type "GO".
>
ok, now take that one more step... at the end of the autoexec.bat add
two lines:
pause
go
and when you reboot the op gets the prompt 'press any key...' and when
he does the log starts automatically. You use ctrl-break to bypass it
when needed.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Mon Apr 22 13:11:20 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ron D. Rossi)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEILDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <200204221611.MAA27056@johnpaul.btv.ibm.com>
>>>"jljarvis" said:
>
> W1MOO, 5A VT, will change from TR to Writelog this year.
> 6 node ethernet network....5 stations and a site-executive laptop.
Same setup as TR.
>
> Last year, TR's quirky use of memory cost us 50Q's and two key
> hours of downtime on one cw station, when the bands were hot.
Jim the year before it was because all the power save features were not turned
off on the laptop. Last year we might have lost 50Qs, but it was because the
CW tent "HAD" to run on windows laptops with all kinds of extra stuff. Booting
it back up required the owner to be there to have it done correctly. The
bottom line though is you cannot turn off a networked computer when you go
home for the night!! The other machines were "clean boots" and worked fine
(nor were they turned off!!).
>
> Ethernet vs. rs232c should improve rfi issues across the site.
There were no RFI issues. In general ethernet has great capabilities, but with
increased complexity.
>
> Ease of setup of networked operation in Writelog will save us
> setup and debug time.
To be fair it "might" save us time. We don't know that yet, since it is the
first year. Last year it was <1 hour including running cables from no
computers to having all five booted and talking to each other (up to 200'
distance between CPUs).
>
> And we've got a TR expert in our midst; although he gets to
> sleep and go to church! So we're switching programs despite
> his feelings for TR.
It will free me up!! Now someone else gets to be slaved to the network =:-)
>
> Last year's disaster happened during the sleep/church period,
> of course. Thank you, Father Murphy! :)
Bless you my son!
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron rossi(kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From nat at ajheatwole.com Mon Apr 22 14:29:24 2002
From: nat@ajheatwole.com (Nat Heatwole)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Thank You WJ9B!
References:
<20020422074526.14896.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <008b01c1ea23$3f8329c0$6ec214ac@guilford.edu>
Fellow Contesters,
I'm currently going to school at Guilford College in Greensboro, NC. I
was walking to class one day last semester and I noticed a HF tribander
on a building on campus. My later inquiries about the antenna led me to
Physics professor Rex Adelberger. Through Rex I learned that the antenna
is a Mosley CL-36-M and that it is attached to a station with two linear
amps and two HF radios. I also learned that there have been several ham
clubs at Guilford in the past and Rex agreed to be the faculty advisor
to another if I could get a club established.
I don't think I've ever seen a station in greater disarray but in the
months that followed I set about rebuilding it. But I soon hit an
obstacle. All of the students at Guilford are stuck in the satellite TV,
cell phone, Internet, DVD, computer, PDA era. In other words, bulky
analog gear that's 30-40 years old, is not computer controllable, and
that can't work RTTY/PSK would not attract sufficient interest for a
club. I sent messages to the PVRC and CQ-Contest reflectors begging for
donations of newer gear but to my dismay I got *NO* offers.
Later, Carl Willis, KF4KIG (the only other known licensed ham at
Guilford) dragged me to the Raleigh Hamfest. I have been a member of
PVRC for years and PVRC-NC had a booth there so I stopped by to meet
some of the NC crowd. One of them was Will, WJ9B, a professor at
UNC-Greensboro, which is just down the street from Guilford. The day
after the hamfest Will e-mailed me and offered to donate some gear in
exchange for a tax deduction. A few days later he arrived at Guilford
wielding an Omni C and an Argonaut II. While the Omni C is a step down
from computer control it is ten steps up from the rigs currently there.
The fair market value of this donation was $1150(!).
This was the inertia we needed. I am more confident now than I have been
at any other time that a working station and functioning club will be
present on campus very soon, hopefully soon enough to get the station on
the air for SS (go PVRC!). I would like to publically extend my personal
thanks to Will, WJ9B. He is a fine individual, a great friend, and an A1
ham. He could have gotten more money had he chosen to sell these rigs on
the open market but he instead decided to donate them. Fine business! He
did not ask that I send this thank you; it's an expression of how truly
grateful I am.
I know his generosity is paralleled in the contesting community and I
hope that others will follow in his footsteps. If anyone reading this
can donate money or equipment of any magnitude to our efforts it would
be *GREATLY* appreciated and I can arrange all of the specifics for a
tax deduction. Please e-mail me if you can help in any way. Thanks
again, Will! Hopefully you are the first of many.
73, Nat, WZ3AR
<nat@ajheatwole.com>
>From w7zr at citlink.net Mon Apr 22 11:37:47 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <015701c1ea24$6cd00960$35d1fea9@N1>
How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
Most recent WPX SSB
SO AB (A) HP
NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the fact that
he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R is not a
separate classification.
I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a current
class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but unfortunetly
I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
Dick W7ZR
Price Reduced!!
Vacation or Retire Here
It's Paradise on the Beach
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Mon Apr 22 19:16:27 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020422171627.012e77ac@pop.vnet.net>
Today I received my plaque for the 2000 CQ WPX SSB which I only
decided to sponsor last June...AFTER the 2000 results were published
(since it represented the new USA record for SOSB10). Steve N8BJQ is
doing a great job of almost SINGLE-HANDEDLY managing both WPX contests
which are nearly as popular worldwide as the CQ WW (which has far more
volunteer support with nearly two dozen Committee Members and 17 DX
Advisors). I am sure he puts in a huge number of hours collecting logs,
analyzing them, preparing the results/stories, responding to UBN requests,
keeping worldwide records up-to-date, preparing certificate lists for CQ
(who actually mails all certificates) and managing the plaques (donors and
recipients). There is NO other major DX contest that has only ONE person
doing what Steve does and NO other major DX contest that provides complete
world records concurrent with published results. Given all of this, I am
always amazed at how reponsive Steve is to any request from me!
Kudos to Steve for a thankless job! Maybe a little less griping
and a little more volunteering to help is in order from some of us.
73, Bill W4ZV
P.S. On top of WPX, Steve is also one of the CQ WW Committe Members!
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Mon Apr 22 15:24:56 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] TR vs. WL
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHGEJMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
I need to clarify something....regarding my TR vs. WriteLog post,
and W1MOO Field Day. KK1L, our TR maven, observed that the networking
issues were identical for either program...and he's right.
Beyond that, I offer the following quotation:
?Last year we might have lost 50Qs, but it was because the CW tent "HAD"
to run on windows laptops with all kinds of extra stuff. Booting
it back up required the owner to be there to have it done correctly. The
bottom line though is you cannot turn off a networked computer when you go
home for the night!! The other machines were "clean boots" and worked fine
(nor were they turned off!!)."
Ron is CORRECT; I stand chastened. TR is a slick program. I own it, as
well as Writelog. At the root of it, I guess, is whether one is a windows
nazi or not. (This is the point at which Linux fans should jump in...)
I personally don?t care what program is running, so long as there are
stick-on labels on the FN keys. My sense is, WL may be easier to implement
the network connection than TR, for the uninitiated or casual user. Once
one is proficient in TR?s setup, I believe it?s essentially a wash.
In rethinking last year?s problem...Ron is absolutely right. It WAS
specifically due to one laptop, which had gone into screen blanked,
system sleep mode....where a casual visitor couldn?t tell if it was
sleeping or powered off. Hitting the power switch didn?t wake it up...
it turned it off. The other laptop in that tent was in the sleep mode,
but hitting its power switch DID wake it up.
Message: set all computers power control options to ?never?...and keep the
power on, if you?re going to network.
73, Jim, n2ea
>From n2mg at contesting.com Mon Apr 22 13:21:50 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
Message-ID:
<20020422122152.17715.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
My one, weekend-long, experience with Writelog (we had
another nickname for it) was in a fully networked,
6-station, multi-multi environment and was less than
thrilling. Most PCs locked up at various times, and,
after rebooting, were, as often as not, invisible to
the network no matter what we tried. After a half-
hour or an hour (or two), poof!, they would simply
reappear on the network. Magic! There were many
things about Writelog that I liked. Its networking
reliability was not one of them.
Anyway, another "good" reason for networking at field
day is the gee-whiz attraction of which most hams are
guilty. That is, assuming one can get it going and
keep it going...
73 Mike N2MG
On Mon, 22 April 2002, "Ron D. Rossi" wrote
>
> >>>"jljarvis" said:
> >
> > Ease of setup of networked operation in Writelog
will save us
> > setup and debug time.
>
> To be fair it "might" save us time. We don't know
that yet, since it is the
> first year. Last year it was <1 hour including
running cables from no
> computers to having all five booted and talking to
each other (up to 200'
> distance between CPUs).
>
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>From k0hb at earthlink.net Mon Apr 22 20:42:54 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?Windows-1252?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PC control of Yaesu G-1000DXA rotor?
Message-ID: <016101c1ea2d$85606700$4517be3f@bigguy>
I have a Yaesu G-1000DXA antenna rotor. This rotor can be come under PC control
(CT, and other logging programs) with addition of a GS-232A adapter. I'm not
sure what's inside that gadget, but it costs $540, about the cost of the rest of
the rotor itself. Has anyone here homebrewed up a replacement for this thing?
Care to share your schematic and code?
(???) 73, de Hans, K0HB
--
"If people concentrated on the really important things
of life, there'd be a shortage of fishing rods and Vibroplex
keys."
>From rthorne at tcac.net Mon Apr 22 15:44:19 2002
From: rthorne@tcac.net (Richard Thorne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [Yaesu] PC control of Yaesu G-1000DXA rotor?
References: <016101c1ea2d$85606700$4517be3f@bigguy>
Message-ID: <3CC46813.D64B85DF@tcac.net>
Hans:
Go to: http://idiompress.com/ They have a board that will work for $149.95.
It
emulates the Hygain DCU-1. So if your software supports the DCU-1, it should
handle
this card.
The normal waivers apply, i.e. I have no financial interest etc. etc........
K?HB wrote:
> I have a Yaesu G-1000DXA antenna rotor. This rotor can be come under PC
> control
> (CT, and other logging programs) with addition of a GS-232A adapter. I'm not
> sure what's inside that gadget, but it costs $540, about the cost of the rest
> of
> the rotor itself. Has anyone here homebrewed up a replacement for this thing?
> Care to share your schematic and code?
>
> (???) 73, de Hans, K0HB
>
> --
> "If people concentrated on the really important things
> of life, there'd be a shortage of fishing rods and Vibroplex
> keys."
>
> _______________________________________________
> Yaesu mailing list
> Yaesu@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/yaesu
--
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Advo Companies, Inc.
806-342-0600
>From k1ir at designet.com Mon Apr 22 18:23:28 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
Message-ID: <gp4ct8clw31qm88.220420021723@designet-jsi>
Mike,
Your story about WriteLog isn't what we experience here in our multi-single
operations. Once we get the Windows networking configured right, we never have
a problem getting a machine back on line after a problem. We have had some
occassional system hangs, but getting the machine back up is really easy, and
the log syncs up immediately. It is totally cool to have all four logs reliably
identical at the end of the contest.
73,
Jim
[CQ-Contest] FD logging program
Mike Gilmer - N2MG n2mg@contesting.com
Mon, 22 Apr 2002 12:21:50 -0700 (PDT)
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My one, weekend-long, experience with Writelog (we had
another nickname for it) was in a fully networked,
6-station, multi-multi environment and was less than
thrilling. Most PCs locked up at various times, and,
after rebooting, were, as often as not, invisible to
the network no matter what we tried. After a half-
hour or an hour (or two), poof!, they would simply
reappear on the network. Magic! There were many
things about Writelog that I liked. Its networking
reliability was not one of them.
Anyway, another "good" reason for networking at field
day is the gee-whiz attraction of which most hams are
guilty. That is, assuming one can get it going and
keep it going...
73 Mike N2MG
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Apr 22 20:19:04 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
Message-ID: <00db01c1ea54$182c6680$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Five days until the Florida QSO Party - hopefully we will get some better
conditions than our friends in Michigan and Ontario had this past weekend.
In case you haven't gone yet - check out the FQP website:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
All 67 counties should be activated by at least one and possibly two or
three more stations depending on traffic. Sweeps should be possible once
again...who will be the first?
GL!
The Florida Contest Group
Sponsors of The Florida QSO Party
(sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
away - K4OJ)
>From k5zd at charter.net Tue Apr 23 02:20:03 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <015701c1ea24$6cd00960$35d1fea9@N1>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEDPDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
I suspect if NV4X was SO1R he would have *only* had about 2800 x 950 for
7.0M...
More variables here than you can see in the score listings.
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Richard Zalewski
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 17:38 PM
> To: cq-contest
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>
> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
>
> Most recent WPX SSB
>
> SO AB (A) HP
>
> NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
>
> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> fact that
> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that
> SO2R is not a
> separate classification.
>
> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in
> a current
> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> unfortunetly
> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
>
> Dick W7ZR
>
> Price Reduced!!
> Vacation or Retire Here
> It's Paradise on the Beach
> www.w7zr.com
>
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>From n6ki at juno.com Mon Apr 22 22:55:04 2002
From: n6ki@juno.com (Dennis Vernacchia)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Dick,
I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
advantage.
I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
will seee that the
top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
that is
due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
Bottom line, just list it in results.
73, Dennis N6KI
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
writes:
> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
>
> Most recent WPX SSB
>
> SO AB (A) HP
>
> NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
>
> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> fact that
> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> is not a
> separate classification.
>
> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> current
> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> unfortunetly
> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
>
> Dick W7ZR
>
> Price Reduced!!
> Vacation or Retire Here
> It's Paradise on the Beach
> www.w7zr.com
>
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>
73,
Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
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>From k8do at amethyst.diamondcs.net Tue Apr 23 09:53:52 2002
From: k8do@amethyst.diamondcs.net (Dennis O'Connor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
References:
<20020422122152.17715.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <005101c1eac5$f0b7d180$1d996c40@gq7mb01>
My experience has been with CT and TRLog... I have found that TRLog, run on
a dos machine (any version from 2.0 onwards to 5.0, not windoze faking it)
and networked off the 232 port is absolutely bulletproof...
An additional advantage is that the DOS autoexec.bat file can simply have
the name of the current contest inserted as the last line and whenever you
get a power interruption the machine simply reboots directly into the
contest without the operator doing anything except yelling at whoever is
responsible for power, "what happened to the !@#$%^&* power, dammit?"...
While all the computers are loaded with windoze on the harddrive, we simply
pop a DOS boot disc in the A: drive that loads DOS (3.3 in my case) when
the machine is powered up... When the contest is over the floppy is popped
out of the A: drive and the machine reverts to windoze automatically...
Denny
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
> My one, weekend-long, experience with Writelog (we had
> another nickname for it) was in a fully networked,
> 6-station, multi-multi environment and was less than
> thrilling. Most PCs locked up at various times, and,
> after rebooting, were, as often as not, invisible to
> the network no matter what we tried. After a half-
> hour or an hour (or two), poof!, they would simply
> reappear on the network. Magic! There were many
> things about Writelog that I liked. Its networking
> reliability was not one of them.
>
> Anyway, another "good" reason for networking at field
> day is the gee-whiz attraction of which most hams are
> guilty. That is, assuming one can get it going and
> keep it going...
>
> 73 Mike N2MG
>
>
> On Mon, 22 April 2002, "Ron D. Rossi" wrote
>
> >
> > >>>"jljarvis" said:
> > >
> > > Ease of setup of networked operation in Writelog
> will save us
> > > setup and debug time.
> >
> > To be fair it "might" save us time. We don't know
> that yet, since it is the
> > first year. Last year it was <1 hour including
> running cables from no
> > computers to having all five booted and talking to
> each other (up to 200'
> > distance between CPUs).
> >
>
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>From dave at egh.com Tue Apr 23 10:17:13 2002
From: dave@egh.com (David Clemons)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: FQP minus 5
Message-ID: <00A0CE30.1E6D45B6.33@egh.com>
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the FQP reminder, it's easy to forget the FQP is
coming up this time of year. :-)
Is it true that the FQP has new a logchecking software package
called CHAD?
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
>From dhenderson at arrl.org Tue Apr 23 10:36:25 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL International DX CW Contest Logs Received posted
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B786D@KAHLESS>
The list of Logs Received for the 2002 ARRL International DX CW Contest has
been posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
If you find an error in your listing, please have your Cabrillo log file and
receipt number available when you contact me at 860-594-0232 or by email at
contests@arrl.org
If your entry is missing, please contact me at the above numbers. Logs
received after the deadline for submission, received with an invalid format
or with missing information may be re-classified as Checklogs.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From 9a3a at spidernet.com.cy Tue Apr 23 15:01:21 2002
From: 9a3a@spidernet.com.cy (Ivo PEZER, 5B4ADA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Message-ID: <006e01c1eab6$349aeb40$b6949ac2@spidernet.net>
Unfortunatelly, our hoby of contesting is far from being equal to all
participants.
SO2R is just one of the latest developements that have caused many concerns.
But, maybe one can look at SO2R from other perspective. In my case, I've
upgraded to SO2R because I have no space for multiple towers and multiple
stacks. With SO2R I at least have better chance to increase my score using
single yagi antennas on 46 ft roof mounted tower.
I would, however, trade SO2R for multiple tower/stack station with fully
automatic amplifier if that was possible... but what about SO2R's with
multiple tower/stack/amp etc. station....
It's never ending story, I guess.
73 and enjoy contesting.
Ivo 5B4ADA/C4A
>
> I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
> the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
> That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
> will seee that the
> top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
> that is
> due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
>
> Bottom line, just list it in results.
>
> 73, Dennis N6KI
>
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
> writes:
> > How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >
> > Most recent WPX SSB
> >
> > SO AB (A) HP
> >
> > NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> >
> > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> > fact that
> > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> > is not a
> > separate classification.
> >
> > I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> > current
> > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> > unfortunetly
> > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >
> > Dick W7ZR
>From w2up at mindspring.com Tue Apr 23 11:14:48 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Message-ID: <E17014E-0005OT-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
Dennis,
I added a second radio a few years ago to improve my
competiveness (and fun!) as a single-op, or SOA. Now that some
single ops have found a way to improve their scores within the rules
you want to change those rules. Is that fair? I've already spent my
time, effort and money on the second radio setup. BTW, I do it all
with a one tower station, so don't tell me you need major real
estate, mltiple towers, megabucks, etc. That argument doesn't fly.
Using your logic, multi-single should be split into more than one
category. There's MO1R - a bunch of guys time-sharing one radio.
MO2R - a bunch of guys sharing 2 radios, where one is a run radio
and the other is a mult radio. MOMR - a bunch of guys sharing
what should be a multi-multi, where one guy runs, and 3 or 4 other
guys tune the bands chasing mults watching 10 minute timers,
etc.
And how about breaking down multi-multi? There are the
"professional" stations like LPL, XX, JA where guys fly in from all
over the world to operate. On the other hand, there are stations like
K3ANS and W3PP that are less "refined" and encourage newbies
to operate to gain experience.
Better yet, let's let everyone have their own category and decide
who they want to compete with.
73,
Barry W2UP
On 22 Apr 02, at 21:55, Dennis Vernacchia wrote:
> Dick,
>
> I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
> suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that already
> run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the advantage.
>
> I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on the
> reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
> That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and
> you will seee that the top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an
> SO2R station gets beat but that is due to other factors like a poor Op
> or lack of good equipment/antennas.
>
> Bottom line, just list it in results.
>
> 73, Dennis N6KI
>
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski"
> <w7zr@citlink.net> writes: > How about considering this regarding SO2R
> as a separate class. > > Most recent WPX SSB > > SO AB (A) HP > > NV4X
> 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS
> 2.78M > > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X
> or the > fact that > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep
> telling me that SO2R > is not a > separate classification. > > I sure
> would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a > current
> > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but >
> unfortunetly > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts. > > Dick W7ZR > >
> Price Reduced!! > Vacation or Retire Here > It's Paradise on the Beach
> > www.w7zr.com > > _______________________________________________ >
> CQ-Contest mailing list > CQ-Contest@contesting.com >
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest >
>
>
> 73,
>
> Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
>
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>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Tue Apr 23 14:43:44 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
In-Reply-To: <200204231306.g3ND6L9F026807@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020423134138.00d30c80@pop.pacific.net.hk>
K4OJ concluded with:
>(sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
>away - K4OJ)
Yeah, right. That's when we start seeing "364 days until FQP!" posts if memory
serves me correctly.
;^)
73, BW2/VR2BrettGraham
>From thompson at mindspring.com Tue Apr 23 11:47:30 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R another class??
Message-ID: <006301c1ead5$cc482ba0$d04b56d1@default>
I don't think so. Years ago we used a separate receiver to be able to
listen on two frequencies at once.
Then when transceivers came along with broad band so there was no tuning we
could switch between
the VFO's and good ops found that they could hold a frequency while using
the other VFO to tune around the band. My old Yaesu even let me have the
other VFO on another band.
The only difference with SO2R is having two rigs rather than two VFO's. The
next step in complexity is to have each hooked to different antennas and
amps. I agree with K5ZD's assumption of perhaps 80 less QSO's without SO2R.
Since SO2R have no access to packet or web spots then those operating as
assisted can make better use of SO2R.
I have writelog running and also have web summit so assisted SO2R (mine is
limited to one antenna/amp altho I can switch antennas). I find that I can
work 4 or 5 mults or others in a test hour.
I don't feel this would hold up for the entire contest. 60 to 80 out of
2880 is quite reasonable for SO no 2R.
While I am at it I don't think the tri-bander single wire is much worse than
tri-bander shorty 2 el 40.
Those of us with one tower think one tower is a better representation if one
is needed at all.
Dave K4JRB
>From kk4ta at strato.net Tue Apr 23 13:56:32 2002
From: kk4ta@strato.net (Tom and Adela)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: FQP minus 5
In-Reply-To: <00A0CE30.1E6D45B6.33@egh.com>
Message-ID: <BIEGKCDKMCJPDIEONEMJIEHACCAA.kk4ta@strato.net>
The acronym stands for "Can't Have Any Dupes"
Tom
KK4TA
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@CONTESTING.COM
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@CONTESTING.COM]On Behalf Of David Clemons
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 9:17 AM
To: CQ-CONTEST@CONTESTING.COM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: FQP minus 5
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the FQP reminder, it's easy to forget the FQP is
coming up this time of year. :-)
Is it true that the FQP has new a logchecking software package
called CHAD?
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
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>From no5w at txucom.net Tue Apr 23 13:11:43 2002
From: no5w@txucom.net (Charles Sanders)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
In-Reply-To: <00db01c1ea54$182c6680$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <000001c1eae9$f1c58da0$6401a8c0@EMOCSANDER>
Jim --
The Michigan group posted routes for the mobiles just prior to the test.
Will that be done for FQP? Good to see all of that orange on the website.
CU this weekend hopefully with better conditions than the MiQP.
73/Chuck/NO5W
>>Five days until the Florida QSO Party - hopefully we will get some better
>>conditions than our friends in Michigan and Ontario had this past weekend.
>>(sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
>>away - K4OJ)
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>From snichols at mvosprey.com Tue Apr 23 15:03:40 2002
From: snichols@mvosprey.com (Scott Nichols)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
References: <00db01c1ea54$182c6680$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <3CC593EC.7A011F57@mvosprey.com>
Hats off to the organizers of the FQP...I just received my certificate from
last year and a well done summary pamphlet of what happened, results, info
etc...Good work...
73, Scott VE1OP
Jim White wrote:
> Five days until the Florida QSO Party - hopefully we will get some better
> conditions than our friends in Michigan and Ontario had this past weekend.
>
> In case you haven't gone yet - check out the FQP website:
>
> http://www.qsl.net/fqp
>
> All 67 counties should be activated by at least one and possibly two or
> three more stations depending on traffic. Sweeps should be possible once
> again...who will be the first?
>
> GL!
>
> The Florida Contest Group
> Sponsors of The Florida QSO Party
>
> (sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
> away - K4OJ)
>
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>From ken.claerbout at equant.com Tue Apr 23 14:27:10 2002
From: ken.claerbout@equant.com (ken.claerbout@equant.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <OF9E121321.7BEF5D74-ON85256BA4.004C4B66@domino.globalone.net>
At the risk of beating a horse that has assumed room temperature a long
time ago, Randy (K5ZD) is absolutely right. There are far more variables
involved than just SO1R vs SO2R.
Do we also start separate listings for those who have a single yagi as
opposed to a stack of two or three? They certainly have an advantage. Two
or three towers are certainly better than one. What do we do there? How
about those who use something like a 1000MP with dual VFO's as opposed to a
transceiver with a single VFO? Yes the playing field is not level and it
never will be completely.
I look back at my situation several years ago. I wanted to be
competitive with guys in the Top Ten. SO2R was just one piece of the
overall puzzle. K3ZO was beating me rather consistently on 15 meters.
Rather than suggest we place people with 8 element yagis at 160 feet in a
different category, I upgraded my 15 meter antenna system within the
confines of my available real estate (1 acre) and financial ability. To
me, that's what contesting is about.
If you choose not to operate SO2R for whatever reason, that's fine. It
doesn't however, make an argument to sub-divide the Single Operator
category anymore than it does for some of the other so called advantages
noted above (single yagi vs stacks, etc.).
73
Ken K4ZW
Dick,
I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
advantage.
I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
will seee that the
top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
that is
due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
Bottom line, just list it in results.
73, Dennis N6KI
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
writes:
> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
>
> Most recent WPX SSB
>
> SO AB (A) HP
>
> NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
>
> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> fact that
> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> is not a
> separate classification.
>
> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> current
> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> unfortunetly
> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
>
> Dick W7ZR
>
> Price Reduced!!
> Vacation or Retire Here
> It's Paradise on the Beach
> www.w7zr.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From w0uo at cs.com Tue Apr 23 14:46:09 2002
From: w0uo@cs.com (w0uo@cs.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <2091E0D4.66C90F65.00004183@cs.com>
Contesters:
Dennis' suggestion is right on.
The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to include it in
contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage exists within
just a few months.
If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect between SO2R
and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two major
contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year to require
stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. If SO2R is the cause of
an advantage, one would expect the advantage to either be substantially
decreased or disappear in the second year.
Sound like a fair test?
7i3 de Jim
W0UO/5
Dennis Vernacchia <n6ki@juno.com> wrote:
>Dick,
>
> ? ? ? ? I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
>suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
>already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
>advantage.
> ? ? ? ?
> ? ? ? ?I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
>the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
>That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
>will seee that the
>top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
>that is
>due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
>
>Bottom line, just list it in results.
>
>73, Dennis ?N6KI
>
>On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
>writes:
>> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
>>
>> Most recent WPX SSB
>>
>> SO AB (A) HP
>>
>> NV4X ? ?2880 Q ?960 PFX ?33 HRS ?7.58M
>> WZ7ZR 1836 Q ?749 PFX ?32 HRS ?2.78M
>>
>> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
>> fact that
>> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
>> is not a
>> separate classification.
>>
>> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
>> current
>> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. ?I would do it but
>> unfortunetly
>> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
>>
>> Dick W7ZR
>>
>> Price Reduced!!
>> Vacation or Retire Here
>> It's Paradise on the Beach
>> www.w7zr.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> CQ-Contest mailing list
>> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>>
>
>
>73,
>
>Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
>
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>From kr6x at kr6x.com Tue Apr 23 11:48:43 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEDPDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Message-ID: <001a01c1eaef$202dcb80$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
In the world of computers the ubiquitous use of "TLA's" has
been dominating the ideology of descriptive language for
many years. Of course, "TLA's" stands for "three letter
abbreviations". The theory goes like this: if something isn't
important enough to be abbreviated until only the people to
which it is important can understand it, then it's insignificant.
Having personally pioneered the use of two transceivers at
W6HX over 30 years ago (no, I don't pretend to have been
the first contester to do this, only that I wandered into the
frontier unassisted), I knew when the TLA "SO2R" came
into widespread use that numerous competitors who had
previously considered the practice insignificant would
henceforth and forever after see "SO2R" as being somehow
fundamentally different from single transceiver operation.
Oh, yes, I realize that "SO2R" isn't 3 letters, it's 3 letters and
a number. Right. Sure, I'll be getting flamed on the list for
that. But many "TLA's" aren't really three letters. Consider
"MM" for "multi-operator, multi-transmitter", "MOST" or
"MS" for "multi-operator, single transmitter", and "M2" for
"multi-operator two transmitter". Those are categories, aren't
they?
It's funny that the more important issues in the competitive
position that contesters can attain aren't given the important
attention that they deserve. Oh, sure, one contest now has
a tribander and dipoles category that you can actually enter,
and there is even a category for inexperienced operators
somewhere in the immense structure for contests. But these
divisions in the contest world can never separate us quite
adequately until we have "TLA's" for each of them. I'm
sure that everyone will agree that we need some additional
"TLA's" to describe every facet of top notch competition
that separates us from reaching the top rungs of the contest.
Both the "good" and the "bad" issues require "TLA's".
For instance:
W5WMU's station has numerous towers. While most of
the operators in the November SS have dipoles on 40 and
80 meters, they often don't realize that a station like
W5WMU can have upwards of 6 full sized 40 meter beams
of 3 elements or greater - two stacked 3 elements pointed
at the Eastern seaboard, two pointed at the mid-west, and
two pointed at California. And, with one of the world's top
CW operators (N6TR) running SO2R you'd think a station
like that would always come out on top.
But NO!
WP3R always comes out on top. We need a "TLA" and a
separate entry category for WP3R. I'm going to suggest
"WP3R".
Here are a few more suggestions, and I hope I'm not the
only guy on the reflector who has ideas on this matter:
PN - Pencil Nightmare - enters every contest without
computer logging
PPC - Pirate's his Packet Callsign - Why do guys log
onto the internet/packet spotting nets with an inactive
operator's call during contests instead of their own?
TBD - Tri-Bander and Dipole? No! Tower Blew Down!
SSF - Single Sideband Filter only, no narrow CW filter
OF2R - Occupies run Frequency silently while chasing
multipliers on the second station - this can be a single
operator or a multi-operator multi-transmitter habit
HC - Happy Camper - MM station who, at 0000z, starts
calling "CQ contest" on 21,251 USB with 4 stacked
7 element yagis pointing at Europe and remains there
continuously for the next 48 hours. Implies OF2R.
TMC - Too Many Computers - No, these are the
neighbor's computers and television sets that put out
terrible RF radiation on all bands
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
To: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>; "cq-contest"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 18:20
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> I suspect if NV4X was SO1R he would have *only* had about 2800 x 950 for
> 7.0M...
>
> More variables here than you can see in the score listings.
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Richard Zalewski
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 17:38 PM
> > To: cq-contest
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> >
> >
> > How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >
> > Most recent WPX SSB
> >
> > SO AB (A) HP
> >
> > NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> >
> > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> > fact that
> > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that
> > SO2R is not a
> > separate classification.
> >
> > I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in
> > a current
> > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> > unfortunetly
> > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >
> > Dick W7ZR
> >
> > Price Reduced!!
> > Vacation or Retire Here
> > It's Paradise on the Beach
> > www.w7zr.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
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>From dhenderson at arrl.org Tue Apr 23 15:07:44 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL January VHF Sweepstakes Logs Received
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B7889@KAHLESS>
The list of Logs Received for the 2002 ARRL January VHF Sweepstakes has been
posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
If you find an error in your listing, please contact me at contests@arrl.org
or by phone at 860-594-0232. Please have your receipt number available if
you filed electronically. Logs listed as checklogs either submitted as such
or were missing necessary information in the Cabrillo log file.
Thanks and 73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 15:36:45 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <1020323143645.OAA13428@gate.iterated.com>
On 4/23/02 7:01 AM, Ivo PEZER, 5B4ADA at 9a3a@spidernet.com.cy wrote:
>SO2R is just one of the latest developements that have caused many concerns.
SO2R is not a recent development. SO2R operating is decades old.
Contrary to the conventional wisdom, SO2R isn't a matter of buying
equipment. Having two radios doesn't suddenly given you an overwhelming
advantage.
Further, consider the efforts of Fred, K3ZO. He manages to hold his own
quite nicely with just one radio.
--
Technology has also made the issue entirely confused. For a couple of
years I have made the statement that the FT-1000D has 95% of the required
circuitry to do SO2R operating with a single radio. The only thing that
it doesn't do is receive while transmitting.
Now comes TenTec with their Orion. I have yet to hear back from the Sales
department on my question, but I would be quite surprised if it couldn't
receive while transmitting.
SO2R operation is effectively two receivers and one transmitter run by
one operator. Since only one signal is on the air at a time, and all
logging, spotting and operating is done by the single operator, it
properly belongs in the Single-Operator category.
There is no need for a new category.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 16:31:49 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] More QRP Bashing
Message-ID: <1020323153149.PAA19534@gate.iterated.com>
On 3/27/02 10:12 AM, Guy Olinger, K2AV at k2av@contesting.com wrote:
>It would seem that interference problems are largely solved by staying
>at low power, 100 watts, though QRP will definitely keep you off the
>neighbor's radar.
I dunno. Even with 100 watts, I still get into my neighbor's telephones
when using certain antennas, and my own TV on certain bands, if the DVD
player is hooked up.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 17:28:47 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
Message-ID: <1020323162844.QAA25155@gate.iterated.com>
On 4/13/02 12:42 PM, Ron Notarius WN3VAW at wn3vaw@fyi.net wrote:
>My experience was exactly the opposite -- I had a lot of DX stations (I
>stopped counting at 30) ask me to put them on the cluster.
Isn't ASKING to be put on the 'cluster in itself, a violation of the
rules?
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From w2up at mindspring.com Tue Apr 23 21:45:59 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <2091E0D4.66C90F65.00004183@cs.com>
Message-ID: <3CC5C807.4420.D4E7EF@localhost>
No, it's not a fair test. There are too many variables, and the causal
relationship of one variable vs. another is not adequately isolated. You
would need ops of SO1R vs. SO2R selected randomly to do an
unbiased study. However, this doesn't happen in the real world, as
SO2R is correlated (I didn't say 100% correlated, but definitely
correlated) with the better and more competitive ops (yechh, I hated
statistics in college).
Using your analogy, let's compare scores of ops using Kenwood vs.
Yaesu radios. If one group does better, does that mean we should have
separate categories for each mfr. of radio?
73,
Barry W2UP
On 23 Apr 2002 w0uo@cs.com wrote:
> Contesters:
>
> Dennis' suggestion is right on.
>
> The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to include it in
> contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage exists
> within just a few months.
>
> If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect between
> SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two
> major contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year to
> require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. If
SO2R is the cause of an advantage, one would expect the advantage to either be
substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
>
> Sound like a fair test?
>
> 7i3 de Jim
> W0UO/5
>
>
> Dennis Vernacchia <n6ki@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >Dick,
> >
> > ? ? ? ? I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
> >suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
> >already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
> >advantage.
> > ? ? ? ?
> > ? ? ? ?I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
> >the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
> >That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
> >will seee that the
> >top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
> >that is
> >due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
> >
> >Bottom line, just list it in results.
> >
> >73, Dennis ?N6KI
> >
> >On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
> >writes:
> >> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >>
> >> Most recent WPX SSB
> >>
> >> SO AB (A) HP
> >>
> >> NV4X ? ?2880 Q ?960 PFX ?33 HRS ?7.58M
> >> WZ7ZR 1836 Q ?749 PFX ?32 HRS ?2.78M
> >>
> >> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> >> fact that
> >> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> >> is not a
> >> separate classification.
> >>
> >> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> >> current
> >> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. ?I would do it but
> >> unfortunetly
> >> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >>
> >> Dick W7ZR
> >>
> >> Price Reduced!!
> >> Vacation or Retire Here
> >> It's Paradise on the Beach
> >> www.w7zr.com
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >>
> >
> >
> >73,
> >
> >Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
> >
> >________________________________________________________________
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--
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Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From aa4ga at hemc.net Tue Apr 23 18:05:12 2002
From: aa4ga@hemc.net (aa4ga@hemc.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <2091E0D4.66C90F65.00004183@cs.com>
Message-ID: <3CC59448.22411.3CA20D@localhost>
On 23 Apr 2002 at 13:46, w0uo@cs.com wrote:
> The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to
> include it in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an
> advantage exists within just a few months.
Uh, who says SO2R isn't an advantage? Of course it is to those doing
it, or they wouldn't be doing it.
Having computer logging is an advantage over paper logging and a
memory keyer.
A memory keyer is an advantage over a non-memory keyer.
A non-memory keyer is an advantage over a bug.
A bug is an advantage over a straight key.
A straight key is an advantage over jamming two wires together.
Some folks don't have the typing skills to utilize the computer
logging advantage, and some folks don't have the multi-tasking skills
to utilize the SO2R advantage.
Why should there be separate categories for SO2R if not for different
keying methods?
If we try hard enough, I'm sure we could come up with enough
categories so that everyone can win one!
SO2R isn't new...it's just that it's easier to implement with off-the-
shelf tools than it ever has been. I wonder if early contesters
fought over whether or not there should be different classes based on
homebrew vs. commercial radios? They probably would have if they'd
had the CQ-Contest reflector!
We've been through all this before, and I'm sure we will again.
73 de Lee
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 18:14:26 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Spotting
Message-ID: <1020323171423.RAA28493@gate.iterated.com>
On 3/20/02 9:48 AM, w5gn from earth to swbell at w5gn@mxg.com wrote:
>I don't understand this "fear about flooding the
>spotting network" - if you are S&P'ing to generate
>spots, and working them, 60 an hour is hot and
>insignificant in volume, I would think.
If 1000 people S & P at 60/hr, that's 60,000 spots/hr -- many of them
likely redundant. I've seen lots of redundant spots. I think a few of
them are people trying to announce who they've managed to work.
>Do you run a node, and if so, is volume a problem?
I do not run a node. However, volume can be a problem, especially during
a contest.
>And if you filter out your 15:30 spot, because
>you spotted that station at 15:00, then I'll
>never see that station if I come to that band at
>15:31 because of your posting filter.
Possibly. There's always the case that you "just missed" an important
spot. The only solution there is to crank up your spotting connection
before the contest and leave it up.
The fundamental problem is that there's no replication of spots -- if you
aren't connected when the spot goes out, you miss it. (Unless your node
has a memory, and then you are limited to the depth of that memory)
There are programmatic solutions to this sort of problem, but it would
require some changes in the nature and formatting of the spots -- not
likely to happen.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 23 16:11:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Ontario QSO Party - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204232211.g3NMBCe29111@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Ontario QSO Party - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve3sre@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Ontario QSO Party
Ontario DX Assoc
PO Box 161 Station A
Willowdale, Ontario M2N 5S8
Canada
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
HFSSB LP
VE3BUC 3 195 104 24,675
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
VE3DC 965 1526 294 24 448,644 Other (specify when
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
SOABMixed LP
VE3STT 102 231 152 87,248
VA3WN 62 152 125 10 41,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
SOABMixed QRP
VA3TTT 118 113 114 17 45,578 U-VE Contest Club
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3OZO,VE3RZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 23 16:12:00 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204232212.g3NMC0Q29120@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: mqp@contesting.com
Mail logs to:
Mad River Radio Club
c/o Dave Pruett
2727 Harris Road
Ypsilanti, MI 48198
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/M HP
K8AA 302 560 102 89 11 222,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Mobile LP
K8MR 655 199 63 54 12 176,553 MRRC
WT9U/M 530 123 58 48 11 124,974 SMC
K5OT/M 205 77 51 32 40,421 SMC
K8IR 242 42 55 21 11 39,976 M&MARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op HP
N9RV 145 89 58 37 6 36,005 SMC
K4BAI 110 38 56 23 20,382 SECC
K8DX 76 95 77 0 4 19,019 MRRC
VE7FO 38 16 25 12 5 3,404
W4SAA/4(@W1CW) 45 0 30 0 3 2,700 FCG
K1KI 16 0 14 0 1 448 YCCC
VK2CZ 0 1 0 1 1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op LP
K8KHZ 74 311 39 90 12 59,211 Hazel Park ARC
K8SIA 185 120 56 51 7 52,430 MRRC
K7SV 166 100 64 42 11 45,792 PVRC
AD1C 157 49 72 31 10 37,389 YCCC
NY1S 118 45 63 23 11 24,116
KN4Y 150 0 73 0 12 21,900 FCG
K8GL 104 0 35 0 3 11,330 MRRC
N2CU 63 37 30 19 3 7,987 Western NY DX Assn
NF4A 52 32 32 15 6,392 FCG
WN6K 40 25 22 14 3,780 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op QRP
N9NE/8 201 67 0 0 12 54,873 Fond du Lac ARC
K3WW 82 19 47 14 6 11,163 FRC
Operators:
K8AA K8AA,KB8ECG,NU8Z
K8IR K8IR,KG8CX
K8MR K8MR,W8DRZ
>From k4ww at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 19:33:02 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <1020323143645.OAA13428@gate.iterated.com>
Message-ID: <006501c1eb16$d49c3760$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
"Bill Coleman" <aa4lr@arrl.net> wrote, among other things: "Further,
consider the efforts of Fred, K3ZO. He manages to hold his own
quite nicely with just one radio."
While I agree, I have yet to see a plaque or certificate for "1st Place,
Holding Your Own"!
Shelby, K4WW
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 23 16:33:23 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 EU Sprint, CW/SSB - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020423153218.00a5b0c0@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 EU Spring Sprint, CW - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 5, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Paolo Cortese, I2UIY
PO Box 14
27043 Broni (PV)
Italy
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 148 4 148
M0TTT 136 4 136
LY2OX 132 132 LDXG
UY5ZZ 124 124 UCC
K1KI 23 1 23 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
9A6XX 110 3 110 WWYC
YL2PN 61 3 61 Latvian CC
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
9A7P(9A6XX) 126 3 126 WWYC
I2WIJ 55 1 55
EI/G4BUO 32 1 32
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 23 16:50:38 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 EU Sprint, CW/SSB - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020423154942.00a55ec0@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 EU Spring Sprint, CW - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 5, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Paolo Cortese, I2UIY
PO Box 14
27043 Broni (PV)
Italy
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 148 4 148
M0TTT 136 4 136
LY2OX 132 132 LDXG
UY5ZZ 124 124 UCC
K1KI 23 1 23 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
9A6XX 110 3 110 WWYC
YL2PN 61 3 61 Latvian CC
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
9A7P(9A6XX) 126 3 126 WWYC
I2WIJ 55 1 55
EI/G4BUO 32 1 32
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Tue Apr 23 16:51:18 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <cb.211a4d32.29f72b81@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002901c1eb19$6561c2e0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Right idea, but the wrong definition. 8 radios and 8 towers wouldn't even
be competitive as a multi-multi station. But SO8R, now you're talking!
----- Original Message -----
From: <ALANNOTTAGE@aol.com>
To: <kr6x@kr6x.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 14:26
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> How about FOR - 'full-on radio' i.e 8 radios and 8 towers!!!!
>
> Al G0XBV
>
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Tue Apr 23 17:11:22 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <2091E0D4.66C90F65.00004183@cs.com>
Message-ID: <005701c1eb1c$3a95ec00$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Well, the problem with this line of thought is that if SO2R
did not provide a significant advantage, the results would still
probably look like it did. Only those who are already scoring
near the top of the listings would consider spending the extra
money for a second transceiver, a second amplifier, any
filters required, etc., and then doing the extra work of
separating feedlines, stacked antennas, and system grounds
plus running the extra radio interface cables from the logging
computer to the transceivers. Adding a good transceiver plus
amplifier, SO2R box, etc., costs money that most hams would
more effectively spend on improvements to the antennas. So
even if SO2R cost a few points in the contest rather than
adding to your score you'd still see only the high scorers with
"SO2R" next to their contest results.
----- Original Message -----
From: <w0uo@cs.com>
To: "Dennis Vernacchia" <n6ki@juno.com>; <w7zr@citlink.net>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:46
Subject: RE: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> Contesters:
>
> Dennis' suggestion is right on.
>
> The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to include it
in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage exists
within just a few months.
>
> If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect between
SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two
major contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year
to require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. If SO2R is
the cause of an advantage, one would expect the advantage to either be
substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
>
> Sound like a fair test?
>
> 7i3 de Jim
> W0UO/5
>
>
> Dennis Vernacchia <n6ki@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >Dick,
> >
> > I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
> >suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
> >already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
> >advantage.
> >
> > I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
> >the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
> >That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
> >will seee that the
> >top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
> >that is
> >due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
> >
> >Bottom line, just list it in results.
> >
> >73, Dennis N6KI
> >
> >On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
> >writes:
> >> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >>
> >> Most recent WPX SSB
> >>
> >> SO AB (A) HP
> >>
> >> NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> >> WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> >>
> >> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> >> fact that
> >> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> >> is not a
> >> separate classification.
> >>
> >> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> >> current
> >> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> >> unfortunetly
> >> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >>
> >> Dick W7ZR
> >>
> >> Price Reduced!!
> >> Vacation or Retire Here
> >> It's Paradise on the Beach
> >> www.w7zr.com
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >>
> >
> >
> >73,
> >
> >Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
> >
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>From W0uo at cs.com Tue Apr 23 22:52:08 2002
From: W0uo@cs.com (W0uo@cs.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <81.1ab4fdd4.29f769c8@cs.com>
KR6X,
With all due respect, lets look at what I said:
The quickest way to expose {an advantage, or lack thereof}, is to include it
in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage exists
within just a few months.
>
> If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect between
SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two
major contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year
to require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. (If SO2R is
the cause of an advantage}, one would expect the advantage to either be
substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
>
> Sound like a fair test?
Now, lets state two hypothesis. H0: SO2R is not a significant advantage
in contesting. H1: SO2R is a significant advantage in contesting. Testing
these hypotheses requires an experimental design. The simplest design, but
not the only one and maybe not the best, is to run two contests, one with
current rules, one with a 3 minute band change limit for both SO1R and SO2R.
I could, but will not here, state a decision rule. It should be easy for
anyone with a background in statistics. Suffice it to say, if factors other
than SO2R are more significant, it will be born out in the measurements.
There is no other way to end this argument. Them that have want to keep
it that way, them that do not want to (or cannot) invest the extra $3,000 or
so that it takes to SO2R right want it changed.
It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a significant advantage.
Its time we found out.
73 de Jim
W0UO/5
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Apr 23 23:02:07 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4 Days to go
Message-ID: <002c01c1eb34$0993ea40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
NO5W penned the following:
From: "Charles Sanders" <no5w@txucom.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
Jim --
The Michigan group posted routes for the mobiles just prior to the test.
Will that be done for FQP? Good to see all of that orange on the website.
CU this weekend hopefully with better conditions than the MiQP.
73/Chuck/NO5W
>>Five days until the Florida QSO Party - hopefully we will get some better
>>conditions than our friends in Michigan and Ontario had this past weekend.
>>(sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
>>away - K4OJ)
The proposed routes for all the mobile teams are listed on the FQP web page -
when you get to the home page click on top of the:
Counties On The Air
text/"button"....
And Brett...yeah I might say something like 364 days til come Monday, but I
guess what I am ttying to say is that I will not be as frequent a visitor to
your in box as I have been since the WPX!
Chuck, and others are encouraged to go to the website for the FQP, its:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
Surf it - it really is good stuff...
4 Days til you can make me stop e-harassing you - all you have to do is work us
in the FQP
73,
Jim, K4OJ
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Apr 23 23:13:52 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R - is it fair?
Message-ID: <003501c1eb35$ae39c460$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
I think
WPR
will suffice :-) as an abbreviation for the Puerto Rico advantage...what is
interesting however is that WP3R can be beat...and not from the Carribean.
K1TO did it a couple of years ago - yes, there is no doubtr there is some major
advantage to being the "DX" in a domestic contest....but after talking wiht a
number of guys who have done SS from KP4 they do not exactly have a cake walk
when the bands go long on Saturday night....
As far SO2R being unfair - I go back to my yearly speach - it is one set of
gray cells versus another set of gray cells in single operator (and may the
finest tuned gray cells win)...i.e. - I don't care if it is SO6R as long as it
isn't assisted operation the winner is the one who has taught his brain to best
process as much information asd possible to maximize his score. And yes,
someone who can juggle multiple radios like N5TJ or K1TO can has a definate
advantage over my brain cells which aren't as good....and I also can't shoot
billiards as well as K1TO but I am not asking him to spot me a few balls in 8
ball, either.
If a guy can tune a rig with each and and each foot, send with both hands, type
with one hand on two different keyboards and run CW pileups at over 300 per
hour - congratulations to him for maximizing the human brain and he deserves to
be the winner...
Do not create a category for this - unless you want to create a category for
state of the art rigs with DSP versus those without...and Prntium computer
logging versus older DOS 486es, etc...
Its about the operator...the really good ones can juggle it all and still tell
you you logged somehting wrong via a talk message at a multi-op...I have seen
K1TO correct my callsign logging errors in the middle of a JA run - he was
running over 150 an hour at the time....
Its the operator....PERIOD.
K4OJ
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>From k4ma at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 24 00:39:38 2002
From: k4ma@nc.rr.com (Jim Stevens)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEDPDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Message-ID: <008b01c1eb41$ac92fbc0$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com>
Wow!
I didn't expect to be the subject of a CQ-Contest expose'.
Before I am crucified, let me provide some data / facts.
I operated the contest using TR-Log. For those of you familiar with TR-Log,
if one
has it configured correctly it will provide you with an estimate of the
number of 2nd
radio QSOs. I did have it configured that way, and TR-Log says I made 96
2nd radio
QSOs. My experience says that TR-Log underestimates the number of 2nd radio
QSOs
by some amount, so I did the following.
TR-Log marked QSOs by radio 1 with "A" and QSOs by radio 2 with "B". I used
a DOS
editor with some old, but advanced editing capabilities to count the number
of "B" QSOs.
There were 176 2nd radio QSOs by this count. I also counted the number of
mults worked
by the 2nd radio which were 111. Obviously some of these I would have
worked regardless,
but just using 176 and 111, my claimed score with SO2R would have been (with
the same points / QSO):
2704 X 849 = 6.29M which is still considerable ahead of the gentleman making
the original
post. If anyone would like to see a copy of my log, just e-mail me.
Let me describe my massive SO2R station. I have a single 100 feet high
Rohn-25G tower
which supports at the top a TH-6 and 40-2CD which are rotatable. I have a
2nd TH-6
side mounted but fixed on Europe at 50 feet. I have 80M and 160M inverted
vees hanging
from the tower. I have a WX0B Six-Pack antenna switch which allows me to
switch any
of the antennas to either radio. I have 2 ICE Model 419 bandpass filters
which provide
my only interstation interference reduction. The "run" station is a
FT-1000MP with an
AL-1200 amp. The "mult" station is a Kenwood TS-440S with a Clipperton-L
amp.
I have a Dunestar audio switch box, and a home brew (yes, I do know how to
solder a
little) box for switching the mike audio. Everything is manually switched
(WE9V, the king
of automatic switching, is like a God to me).
If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't support separate categories
for SO2R.
SO2R is hard! I like to think I am a much better SSB op than CW (I know
that may
not be saying much) but because of that I rarely push SO2R that hard in CW
contests
except Sweepstakes (where Sunday rates are so slow) and NAQPs (where it is
not
quite as tough). Even in SSB contests, where I think I know what the hell I
am doing
at least half the time, I don't push SO2R as hard as I should because it is
tough to do.
It is a lot of work. I admire the SO2R masters like (to name a few) N6TR,
N5TJ, K5ZD.
But I don't think I should have a different category than them just because
of SO2R.
A final comment since I am on my soapbox. Why the hell did I do Assisted
especially
in WPX? Good question.
First, in this particular contest, I knew that I had some other commitments
that would
keep me from being 100% focused on the contest.
Second, I enjoy packet. I like watching the spots come across. I still
chase DX. I enjoy
chatting with others during the test. I spent some time during this test
chatting with K4JA
on antennas projects at his station and conditions during the test. All
things that would not
have been possible without packet.
73, Jim NV4X (K4MA operator)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
To: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>; "cq-contest"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:20 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> I suspect if NV4X was SO1R he would have *only* had about 2800 x 950 for
> 7.0M...
>
> More variables here than you can see in the score listings.
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Richard Zalewski
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 17:38 PM
> > To: cq-contest
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> >
> >
> > How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >
> > Most recent WPX SSB
> >
> > SO AB (A) HP
> >
> > NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> >
> > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> > fact that
> > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that
> > SO2R is not a
> > separate classification.
> >
> > I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in
> > a current
> > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> > unfortunetly
> > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >
> > Dick W7ZR
> >
> > Price Reduced!!
> > Vacation or Retire Here
> > It's Paradise on the Beach
> > www.w7zr.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
> _______________________________________________
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>From kr1g at hotmail.com Wed Apr 24 05:19:08 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This -TLAs
Message-ID: <F18KoBCsBNq0mzjvJiA0000b0b0@hotmail.com>
I think I must disagree, although only slightly. TLA stands for three letter
"acronym", not abbreviation. And SO2R, while effectively a TLA, is truly a
AN4T - an alpha numeric 4-tuple, which is *far* more powerful.
And the FQP doesn't truly recognize the effects of true-north, just magnetic
north. Thats why they don't have a seperate category for Florida natives.
Man its a long time till WPX CW (soryy Jim, I'll be away from home for the
Freestyle QSO Party!)
73
Ted, ex-KR1G (I think)
>From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com>
>To: "cq-contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>In the world of computers the ubiquitous use of "TLA's" has
>been dominating the ideology of descriptive language for
>many years. Of course, "TLA's" stands for "three letter
>abbreviations". The theory goes like this: if something isn't
>important enough to be abbreviated until only the people to
>which it is important can understand it, then it's insignificant.
>
>Having personally pioneered the use of two transceivers at
>W6HX over 30 years ago (no, I don't pretend to have been
>the first contester to do this, only that I wandered into the
>frontier unassisted), I knew when the TLA "SO2R" came
>into widespread use that numerous competitors who had
>previously considered the practice insignificant would
>henceforth and forever after see "SO2R" as being somehow
>fundamentally different from single transceiver operation.
>
>Oh, yes, I realize that "SO2R" isn't 3 letters, it's 3 letters and
>a number. Right. Sure, I'll be getting flamed on the list for
>that. But many "TLA's" aren't really three letters. Consider
>"MM" for "multi-operator, multi-transmitter", "MOST" or
>"MS" for "multi-operator, single transmitter", and "M2" for
>"multi-operator two transmitter". Those are categories, aren't
>they?
>
>It's funny that the more important issues in the competitive
>position that contesters can attain aren't given the important
>attention that they deserve. Oh, sure, one contest now has
>a tribander and dipoles category that you can actually enter,
>and there is even a category for inexperienced operators
>somewhere in the immense structure for contests. But these
>divisions in the contest world can never separate us quite
>adequately until we have "TLA's" for each of them. I'm
>sure that everyone will agree that we need some additional
>"TLA's" to describe every facet of top notch competition
>that separates us from reaching the top rungs of the contest.
>Both the "good" and the "bad" issues require "TLA's".
>
>For instance:
>
>W5WMU's station has numerous towers. While most of
>the operators in the November SS have dipoles on 40 and
>80 meters, they often don't realize that a station like
>W5WMU can have upwards of 6 full sized 40 meter beams
>of 3 elements or greater - two stacked 3 elements pointed
>at the Eastern seaboard, two pointed at the mid-west, and
>two pointed at California. And, with one of the world's top
>CW operators (N6TR) running SO2R you'd think a station
>like that would always come out on top.
>
>But NO!
>
>WP3R always comes out on top. We need a "TLA" and a
>separate entry category for WP3R. I'm going to suggest
>"WP3R".
>
>Here are a few more suggestions, and I hope I'm not the
>only guy on the reflector who has ideas on this matter:
>
>PN - Pencil Nightmare - enters every contest without
> computer logging
>PPC - Pirate's his Packet Callsign - Why do guys log
> onto the internet/packet spotting nets with an inactive
> operator's call during contests instead of their own?
>TBD - Tri-Bander and Dipole? No! Tower Blew Down!
>SSF - Single Sideband Filter only, no narrow CW filter
>OF2R - Occupies run Frequency silently while chasing
> multipliers on the second station - this can be a single
> operator or a multi-operator multi-transmitter habit
>HC - Happy Camper - MM station who, at 0000z, starts
> calling "CQ contest" on 21,251 USB with 4 stacked
> 7 element yagis pointing at Europe and remains there
> continuously for the next 48 hours. Implies OF2R.
>TMC - Too Many Computers - No, these are the
> neighbor's computers and television sets that put out
> terrible RF radiation on all bands
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
>To: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>; "cq-contest"
><cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 18:20
>Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>
> > I suspect if NV4X was SO1R he would have *only* had about 2800 x 950 for
> > 7.0M...
> >
> > More variables here than you can see in the score listings.
> >
> > Randy, K5ZD
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Richard Zalewski
> > > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 17:38 PM
> > > To: cq-contest
> > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> > >
> > >
> > > How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> > >
> > > Most recent WPX SSB
> > >
> > > SO AB (A) HP
> > >
> > > NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> > > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> > >
> > > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> > > fact that
> > > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that
> > > SO2R is not a
> > > separate classification.
> > >
> > > I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in
> > > a current
> > > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> > > unfortunetly
> > > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> > >
> > > Dick W7ZR
> > >
> > > Price Reduced!!
> > > Vacation or Retire Here
> > > It's Paradise on the Beach
> > > www.w7zr.com
> > >
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>From kr6x at kr6x.com Tue Apr 23 22:33:51 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <02c101c1eb49$3cb4daf0$ede3c23f@KR6X.ORG>
Frankly, from your first sentence this last message
from you shows a misunderstanding of my post.
"cause and effect"
One can show that there is a statistical relationship between
higher scores and SO2R.
I'll not deny that. It's going to be a fact. You'll see that the
average SO2R score is considerably higher than the
average single rig entry.
But to equate the score difference between single rig entries
and SO2R entries to the advantage to be gained by going to
SO2R shows the intent to use statistics to deceive.
In a double-blind test I'm confident that it could be
demonstrated that the average top 20 entrants in any
contest could benefit from adding SO2R capability or
alternatively would suffer a score reduction if his SO2R
capability was eliminated.
But the score difference would be only a few percent, and
for many operators that are less motivated and/or less
capable than the average top 20 entrants there could even
be a significant score reduction resulting from the fatigue
that sets in within several hours of the beginning of the
serious SO2R operation. For this significantly large group
of operators, the effort required to get the most out of a
station with SO2R capabilities will tire them until they
become somewhat befuddled, and will begin to operate
inefficiently. They'll often lose run frequencies they'd
otherwise have controlled or become impatient and
angry whenever they run across duplicate contacts.
The second receiver will distract them until they miscopy
exchanges that they should have received. SO2R will
cause all but the very best operators to drain their
mental capacities until they struggle to do the
things that would have been easy for them. They
just can't keep up the pace.
With the average modern new transceiver price being
around $3500-$5000, the modern competitive amplifier
new price $2500-$4000, and the remaining hardware
required to go to full SO2R around $500-$1000, the
price of adding SO2R capability to an existing station
can range between $7500 and $10,000. Admittedly,
it can be done for less. But most competitors see the
investment as being better spent on improving antennas.
If budgetary constraints are included, then a double-
blind test would probably show that the decision to go
to SO2R results in significant score reductions.
----- Original Message -----
From: <W0uo@cs.com>
To: <kr6x@kr6x.com>; <CQ-CONTEST@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> KR6X,
>
> With all due respect, lets look at what I said:
>
> The quickest way to expose {an advantage, or lack thereof}, is to
include it
> in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage
exists
> within just a few months.
> >
> > If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect
between
> SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run
on two
> major contest with current rules, change the rules for the
subsequent year
> to require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. (If
SO2R is
> the cause of an advantage}, one would expect the advantage to either
be
> substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
> >
> > Sound like a fair test?
>
> Now, lets state two hypothesis. H0: SO2R is not a significant
advantage
> in contesting. H1: SO2R is a significant advantage in contesting.
Testing
> these hypotheses requires an experimental design. The simplest
design, but
> not the only one and maybe not the best, is to run two contests, one
with
> current rules, one with a 3 minute band change limit for both SO1R
and SO2R.
> I could, but will not here, state a decision rule. It should be
easy for
> anyone with a background in statistics. Suffice it to say, if
factors other
> than SO2R are more significant, it will be born out in the
measurements.
> There is no other way to end this argument. Them that have want
to keep
> it that way, them that do not want to (or cannot) invest the extra
$3,000 or
> so that it takes to SO2R right want it changed.
> It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a significant
advantage.
> Its time we found out.
>
> 73 de Jim
> W0UO/5
>From kl7ra at blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov Wed Apr 24 09:36:01 2002
From: kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov (KL7RA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <008401c1ebae$2001a4a0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
On 4/23/02 7:01 AM, Ivo PEZER, 5B4ADA at 9a3a@spidernet.com.cy wrote:
>SO2R is just one of the latest developements that have caused many concerns.
Bill replies:
>SO2R is not a recent development. SO2R operating is decades old.
I had a complete two station setup in the 60's, so2r switching and all.
Unfortunately it was used for instant band hopping as I never acquired
the skill to tune a second radio for mults while sending CW with my
right hand.
It was the PC and SO2R software, most probably TRLog, that added
any clear cut advantage to having the second radio. Even then it takes
an additional skill requiring a lot of practice to operate everything
efficiently.
My guess is the top ten ops would stay in the top ten with or without
whatever advantages comes their way by technology. I don't see Jeff or
Dan taking a big dump in the standings anytime in the future because of
something "new". I see guys like that always looking for whatever skill or
equipment it takes to keep up or ahead of the pack.
In my opinion it's probably best not to dumb down the contest community
by rule changes but to encourage station and operator improvements.
The major rule changes will come soon enough. Contests will go to 24 hour
weekends, due busy lifestyles and packet spots will be okay for everyone,
due to enforcement issues.
73 Rich KL7RA
Snowed all weekend, zero degrees F last night. Come on Dayton...
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Wed Apr 24 08:42:14 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Message-ID: <3CC661D6.E4CC558F@gte.net>
Didn't anyone really READ Dennis' post? WHERE did he say anything about
a seperate category for SO2R? I just reread it, and still don't see it.
He wrote:
"I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on the
reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized."
Just something in the results to show who is and isn't using SO2R - NOT
A SEPERATE OR NEW CATEGORY. It's already on the 3830 reporting form ...
what's the big deal on adding an * after a printed result?
Seems like it's a big secret or something!
73, Ron WD4AHZ
SO1R, by choice AND necessity (and no, I don't want a new category. I'd
just like to know how I compare to my "peers" - and maybe smile when I
happen to beat a SO2R - or is THAT what has everyone so worried?)
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Wed Apr 24 08:48:12 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
References: <000001c1eae9$f1c58da0$6401a8c0@EMOCSANDER>
Message-ID: <3CC6633C.C1667475@gte.net>
Charles Sanders wrote:
> The Michigan group posted routes for the mobiles just prior to the
> test. Will that be done for FQP?
Go to the "On The Air" page on the FQP Web site. There you'll find a
listing of the mobiles and what counties they plan to be active from
(listen for them to sign /CTY, to let you know what county they are
currently in), as well as some of the fixed stations who will be on.
Ron, WD4AHZ
>From ums at nconnect.net Wed Apr 24 08:06:21 2002
From: ums@nconnect.net (Gary Sutcliffe)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <E17014E-0005OT-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
References: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20020424070621.00707cb0@mail.nconnect.net>
Radio contesting is unfair. Someone with better antennas, radios, location,
etc. will always have an advantage over an equivalent operator with a
lesser station. That's life. Or, maybe it is just a natural part of a
competition that encourages innovation.
The one thing about SO2R is that just writing a check and adding SO2R
capabilities to your station will not give you the automatic improvement
that other equipment upgrades would. You have to put the effort in to learn
to do it effectively. IMHO, SO2R is the major change in contesting that is
mostly based on operator skill.
I think we should applaud those who put the effort in to operate SO2R
effectively. We should also applaud those who work to improve other
contesting skills like pulling weak ones out of the noise, better typing
skills, better pileup techniques, better run skills, better S&P skills,
etc. I don't see a whole lot of difference.
73 - Gary, W9XT (whose limited moves into SO2R have probably cost more
QSO's than they gained :-)
____________
Gary Sutcliffe, W9XT Unified Microsystems
ums@nconnect.net PO Box 133
http://www.QTH.com/w9xt Slinger, WI 53086
>From ha1ag at compuserve.com Wed Apr 24 12:01:05 2002
From: ha1ag@compuserve.com (Zoli Pitman HA1AG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Rome & Lisbon
Message-ID: <001d01c1eb8a$d7dec680$33112a1f@Libertel>
Hi,
After a few days of leisure (hopefully FQP can be included! :) ) I'll be on
the road again. I'll be in Rome, Italy between 6 and 12 May, and in Lisbon,
Portugal between 1 and 9 June.
I'd like to use this trips to meet local hams so if U're interested in
having a beer (or more) and have a chat about contesting send me an emailto
ha1ag@compuserve.com.
73 de Zoli HA1AG
>From ve4xt at mts.net Wed Apr 24 08:42:41 2002
From: ve4xt@mts.net (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
Message-ID: <007101c1eb8d$86131c40$0100a8c0@joe>
First off, let me state I do not run SO2R, so this is not about protecting
any turf.
I don't believe SO2R warrants a separate category. W7ZR's analysis -- so
statistically flawed on so many levels I can't imagine anyone would base an
argument upon it -- simply shows one station in the promised land of
propagation laying a big old can of whupp-ass on a station in a
propagationally challenged area. No big surprise there.
Is there an advantage to SO2R? Perhaps, though it seems the jury is still
out. Sure, stations will claim to have made 100 QSOs or 200 QSOs on the
second radio. But even that is not valid statistically unless you make those
QSOs net of QSOs lost on the main radio while fiddling with SO2R.
Nobody has even ventured to speculate on QSOs lost, though SO2R continues to
be popular so obviously people think there's an advantage.
Some SO2R foes are in la-la land if they think that running two radios means
doubling their QSO count. Not even close.
But is the advantage to SO2R any different than the ability to copy several
streams of CW at once. Clearly, ops with that ability have a large operative
advantage over ops who struggle to copy one stream of CW at once. Do we
create a separate category for them?
Is the advantage to SO2R any different than the advantage granted an
operator whose internal SSB filters work better than the next guy's? Do we
create a separate category for them?
Is the advantage to SO2R any different than the advantage granted an
operator whose ability to pick bandswitch times is better than the next
guy's? Do we create a separate category for them?
How about the operators with the innate ability to find run frequencies
almost instantly?
(Oh, and don't bring in the economic argument, please. It's simply not
relevant. First, you can borrow the other radio. It doesn't need its own
amp. It doesn't need its own set of 5/5/5/5/5/5 yagis. You can homebrew your
way past the connectivity issues. Second, if you're going to apply
economics, then why not apply economics to the case of the ham who's
struggling to keep his FTDX400 on the air versus the guy who's FT 1000 MP
Mark V just arrived? Or the guy who's pair of homebrew 811s can't hold a
candle to an Alpha 87s pair of 8877s? SO2R is an ability that's practised
and honed over countless hours of operating. It can't be bought.)
I think the proposal to create a separate category for SO2R amounts to a
lowering of standards and marginalizes operators for doing what we really
want them to do -- be the best ops they can be.
If you would like to self-identify as SO1R, and have a separate category for
that, I wouldn't complain. I think, that like the tribander-single element
class, it would be OK to allow ops to opt out of the big leagues if they
choose. That would be democratic. Fair. Reasonable. And it wouldn't lower
the standards in the main category. I also suspect, that much like the
number of ops who would qualify for T/S don't choose that category, you'd
have ops with one radio who choose not to self-identify as SO1R.
There's a romantic quality to being a giant-killer. I wouldn't want to see
that taken away by forcing the giant into a different arena.
73, kelly
ve4xt
>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Wed Apr 24 10:45:01 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jay Pryor <jpryor@ARCHES.UGA.EDU>
To: SECC@contesting.com
Subject: [SECC] Eyes and Contests
I'm passing this along so you will be aware of this possibility . . .
For the past four or five years when I operated in contests, I got blurred
vision. Not just blurry vision but vision that is seriously blurred -- to
the extent that it would be dangerous to operate a car, which I have
done. About a month ago I was diagnosed as having glaucoma. This week I
learned that I have intermittent acute angle glaucoma. The onset is caused
by dilated pupils. When the pupils are dilated for long periods of time,
like when I'm sitting in a fairly dark room in front of radios, pressure
builds in my eyes and blurred vision results.
The good news is that it can be fixed. In fact the kind that I have is the
only form of glaucoma that can be fixed. The eye doc fixed the right eye
yesterday with a laser and will treat the left eye on Friday. This is a
rare condition, but if you get seriously blurred vision when you contest
for long periods of time you might want have your eyes checked by an
ophthalmologist. In fact it isn't a bad idea anyway.
FWIW,
Jay/K4OGG
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>From nf4a at knology.net Wed Apr 24 11:01:00 2002
From: nf4a@knology.net (NF4A)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NF4A/M Route Plans for FQP
Message-ID: <NEBBKJEIHCNOJGJPHIDLMEOGEMAA.nf4a@knology.net>
Saturday starting in ESC then, SAN,OKA,WAL,HOL,WAG,JAC,GAD,LEO,JEF,MAD and
as far east on I-10 as possible with POSSIBLE excursion to SUW and HAM.
Sunday starting in BAY then, GUL,CAL,LIB,GAD,LEO,WAK,JEF,TAY,LAF,DIX, then
back thru to FRA (finishing contest in FRA so I can go have a cold beer with
N4PN at St. George Island in FRA)
40-10 Meters SSB and CW
Charlie NF4A/9A5PC
>From N5RP at pdq.net Wed Apr 24 11:06:28 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020424095929.00b37588@pop.pdq.net>
At 09:45 4/24/2002 -0400, Bill Fisher, W4AN wrote:
>I'm passing this along so you will be aware of this possibility . . .
>
>For the past four or five years when I operated in contests, I got blurred
>vision.
<snip>
=========================>
Yes, as Bill mentions, the torture on the eyes from hamming in front of
computers presents some real dangers and problems to our aging community.
I've done some research on this very problem for my own benefit, and my
wife, for my benefit, has done some looking around for information on the
subject, as well.
Before I dare get in trouble for "impersonating" a professional by
mentioning what I came to discover on the subject, are there any
professionals out there in the commercial interior design or medical arena
that might wish to comment on the ergonomics of a properly designed station
layout as it applies to eye strain and eye damage to our aging contest
community?
.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Wed Apr 24 16:12:16 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
In-Reply-To: <200204241446.g3OEk49F015354@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020424150421.00a91f00@pop.pacific.net.hk>
K4OJ continued:
>And Brett...yeah I might say something like 364 days til come Monday, =
>but I guess what I am ttying to say is that I will not be as frequent a =
>visitor to your in box as I have been since the WPX!
But if you don't, I'll probably cock things up & miss it... so keep up the good
work, mate.
Already have 280 bhp taxi with total nutcase driver booked & seat closest to
first exit door on B747-400 Combi reserved for fast exit upon arrival in HKG
in hopes I can be back home in time to defend the all-time greater China record
in FQP...
I trust others have their FQP plans equally sorted & will be ready to rock 'n
roll this weekend!
73, BW2/VR2BrettGraham
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 24 09:38:56 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FYI - Virus Address Spoofing
In-Reply-To: <001301c1eb11$ee1e0240$6401a8c0@Workgroup>
References: <8aabcucrdvnpph3ouob7g5cb0hka7oc61k@4ax.com>
<000201c1eb04$380a9a20$8266fea9@telepac.pt>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020424082102.00a5a120@pop3.eskimo.com>
FYI - just as a trivial interest
A lot of mail has been going around about the latest
virus behavior and address spoofing. Got a good example
of it in the 3830 administration hold box this morning.
A post FROM "3830-request" TO "3830".
3830-request would never originate mail - it is used
for incoming list administration requests. You would normally
post TO "3830-request". Obviously, some one has both these
addresses in their address book and the random combination
finally popped up.
So, the moral is (if there is one), watch who you
accuse of sending viruses. :>(
73 and have good day
dink, n7wa
>From n2mg at contesting.com Wed Apr 24 11:58:09 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL Contest Rate Sheet
Message-ID:
<20020424105810.23676.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
It seems that for about a month or so, the ARRL has
been publishing the "Contest Rate Sheet" bulletin (in
electronic form). It's available via email (to ARRL
members) and on the web:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/rate-sheet/
Ward Silver, N?AX is editing it.
Seems to be a part of the web-presence arsenal of
contesting resources which the League is developing.
Did I miss its announcement or what?
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>From kq2m at mags.net Wed Apr 24 15:07:38 2002
From: kq2m@mags.net (Robert Shohet)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R Nonsense
Message-ID: <000701c1ebba$eb9c0680$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
This thread is almost as old as SO2R itself and keeps coming up every year.
OK, here it is:
1) SO2R is an advantage over SO1R, but ONLY for those operators who gain
more with the 2nd radio than they lose on the 1st radio. REREAD THAT
PLEASE!
Many people try SO2R, discover that it's tougher than they thought and
really mess up with the first radio (as well as the 2nd radio), get
flustered and really tired and frustrated, and LOSE SCORE compare to simply
being SO1R. Plus the discouragement they feel REDUCES their energy level
and their score further.
IMO, computer logging was a quantum leap over paper logging, and in my case,
I KNOW that computer software has helped increase my efficiency and score
FAR MORE than adding a 2nd radio ever did! Despite that, the contest
sponsors didn't see fit to put create a new category for computer loggers -
they were right NOT to do so.
Sure software costs less than a 2nd station, but you can borrow a 2nd radio
and amp and it costs a lot less to build a wirebeam that it does for
computer software!
2) This $5,000, - $10,000 for SO2R is TOTAL NONSENSE! While I don't doubt
that some have spent this and more, I started with a USED TS830, USED SB220
and a few wire antennas.
Total cost MAYBE was $1,200, and that was 15 years ago. Today you could buy
them for less. Heck, someone would probably give you the TS830 for FREE!
What does it cost to build a 20 M Inverted V out of spare wire and RG8X?
$10? The computer that I used was a really slow 286. It would have cost
more to throw it away than to use it!
Even as recently as 4 years ago, I was still using a TS940 and SB220 with a
few wire antennas as my 2nd radio. Good enough to beat quite a few
Northeastern good ops with stacks and real SO2R capability and come in 3rd
in ARRLDXCW SOABHP Unassisted and finish in the top-ten in ARRLDX and CQWW
each year. As many have said, SKILL COUNTS!
3) I still DO NOT use automatic ant/radio/amp switching. I have some of the
stuff I need but I never installed it. I'm not sure that it will be durable
enough and I don't have the time to install it. IT IS NOT NECESSARY for
competitive SO2R, but it sure makes it more fun and more efficient if you
have it.
So spend (or don't spend) all the money you want, but understand that MONEY
ALONE does not change the standings. A great opr at a decent station will
almost always beat a decent opr at a great station!
4) Competitive SO2R is primarily about skill building, operating efficiency
and challenging yourself. Operating 2 radios (or more) is a skill that is
developed. While some may be born with more inherent talent than others (no
different than athletes, musicians, or anything else), a real "pro" takes
pride in it, works at it and seeks to find new things to do to aid the
operation. The more you push yourself, the better your skills get, and the
more often you push yourself, the more consistent the improvement and the
higher the baseline level of skill available for next time.
I haven't nearly maxed out my skill level yet. If I gave it as much time as
I do my career, I would probably be an order of magnitude better at it with
that much LESS effort. I can't wait to hear when someone has managed to
"perfect" a really efficient SO3R. I don't think it has happened yet, but I
am sure it will and I will applaud it when it does!
5) I won't address all the other areas covered, but suffice it to say that
life is unfair and contesting is unfair. There will NEVER be a level
playing field: there will never be equal propagation, or equal disposable
income, or equal location, or equal time flexibility, or equal anything -
that's just how it is. So, I try to focus on a few key things:
1) Having fun
2) Improving myself and my skills
3) Competing with myself, and
4) Talking with my friends
IMO, that's really all that should matter, and leads to maximum enjoyment.
I can NEVER win SS Phone from Connecticut, but I can still enjoy operating
in it (one of my favorite contests) and I won't ask for the contest sponsor
to create a new category to give me a better chance to win.
Someone can go to a big station in Nev or PR and make 30% more q's and score
than me, SO WHAT?
If they can use 8 radios and increase that to 40% more q's than me , SO
WHAT? They should be congratulated for their extra effort!
I know, that's not how everyone feels. That's simply my opinion. I leave
the judicious use of categories to the contest sponsors.
In the meantime, and as the debate rages on, please remember that what
matters most is to get on, operate and try to have fun.
73
Bob KQ2M
>From n2mg at contesting.com Wed Apr 24 12:31:53 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Tue, 23 April 2002, W0uo@cs.com wrote
> It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a
> significant advantage. Its time we found out.
This is the wrong question.
No one said that SO2R was not an advantage. From what
I've read, most agree that it is a significant
advantage. Anything that provides a detectable
improvement to one's score is a "significant"
advantage - IOW, one worth undertaking. If it wasn't
an advantage, why would anyone bother doing it?
The right question is: Does SO2R warrant a separate
category (and why)? The number of things providing
(significant or otherwise) advantage is virtually
endless and they have been listed here ad nauseum.
Virtually none of them have a distinct category. Why
does SO2R stand out in some minds? I sense it is not
simply because it offers an advantage. To me it
almost seems like it is simply because it is a
politically-correct-to-question operating technique.
Is it a bolt-on advantage like an amplifier? No, SO2R
requires a high degree of skill to use. Is it like
packet? No, all advantages from SO2R come from within
one's own efforts. Is it like having big antennas
(which generally have no separate category)? No, most
of the work required to extract an advantage from big
antennas is done well before the contest period.
73 Mike N2MG
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From n5nj at gte.net Wed Apr 24 15:17:55 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (Bob Naumann - N5NJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FYI - Virus Address Spoofing
References: <8aabcucrdvnpph3ouob7g5cb0hka7oc61k@4ax.com>
<000201c1eb04$380a9a20$8266fea9@telepac.pt>
<5.1.0.14.1.20020424082102.00a5a120@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <00f001c1ebc4$c536b9e0$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
I have been receiving these types of notices for several weeks.
They all have a ham "theme" to them, in that many of the emails are hams.
So, someone, probably one of the contesting community, has an email virus on
their machine running rampant.
Several of us have communicated about it and we all know that it's not our
machines.
The virus that does this is called:
KLEZ.E.WORM
It uses the:
MIMEEXPLOIT.IFRAME
weakness of Outlook and Internet Explorer.
The w32.klez.e@mm virus, also known as the "Klez" virus, is a mass mailing
e-mail worm that copies itself to network shares and distributes itself to
all of the Address Book entries on the affected computer's Outlook Address
Book.
You can read about it here:
http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q316658
These things are real, and if you don't have up-to-date virus protection, it
might be your computer doing it.
I thought SPAM was bad enough, now I get all of these rejected email
messages.
73,
N5NJ
----- Original Message -----
From: <mwdink@eskimo.com>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>;
<list-owners@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:38 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FYI - Virus Address Spoofing
> FYI - just as a trivial interest
>
> A lot of mail has been going around about the latest
> virus behavior and address spoofing. Got a good example
> of it in the 3830 administration hold box this morning.
>
>
> A post FROM "3830-request" TO "3830".
>
> 3830-request would never originate mail - it is used
> for incoming list administration requests. You would normally
> post TO "3830-request". Obviously, some one has both these
> addresses in their address book and the random combination
> finally popped up.
>
> So, the moral is (if there is one), watch who you
> accuse of sending viruses. :>(
>
> 73 and have good day
> dink, n7wa
>
>
>
>
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>From k0hb at earthlink.net Wed Apr 24 20:32:58 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?iso-8859-1?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <012a01c1ebbe$768006e0$1a11be3f@bigguy>
W0uo@cs.com wrote
> It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a
> significant advantage. Its time we found out.
Of course it's an advantage, just like being able to copy QRQ code is an
advantage.
In other words, it's a skill and skilled people have an advantage.
I'm not an SO2R guy, in fact I have trouble being an SO1.5R guy (I have a Drake
R4C on a multiband vertical to tune for mults).
Until I decide to master the skill, the SO2R guys are gonna do better than me.
That's my problem, and their advantage. So be it!
(???) 73, de Hans, K0HB
--
1943 Poster Child for The National Precocious Little Bastard Campaign
>From tree at kkn.net Wed Apr 24 13:37:01 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Larry Tree Tyree N6TR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020424123701.B31963@kkn.net>
> I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on the
> reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized."
>
> Just something in the results to show who is and isn't using SO2R - NOT
> A SEPERATE OR NEW CATEGORY. It's already on the 3830 reporting form ...
> what's the big deal on adding an * after a printed result?
I would like to point out that the CW Sprint lists the number of band
changes for the top ten stations. This easily shows who is using two
radios and how much they are using it.
Typically, one or two of the top ten are using one radio - with six or
less band changes. There are typically one or two stations up over 100
band changes in the same four hours.
Tree N6TR
tree@kkn.net
>From w2up at mindspring.com Wed Apr 24 16:55:31 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020424095929.00b37588@pop.pdq.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <E170SrW-0004AP-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
On 24 Apr 02, at 10:06, Bob, N5RP wrote:
> At 09:45 4/24/2002 -0400, Bill Fisher, W4AN wrote:
> >I'm passing this along so you will be aware of this possibility . . .
> >
> >For the past four or five years when I operated in contests, I got
> >blurred vision.
> <snip>
> =========================>
> Yes, as Bill mentions, the torture on the eyes from hamming in front
> of computers presents some real dangers and problems to our aging
> community.
>
> I've done some research on this very problem for my own benefit, and
> my wife, for my benefit, has done some looking around for information
> on the subject, as well.
>
> Before I dare get in trouble for "impersonating" a professional by
> mentioning what I came to discover on the subject, are there any
> professionals out there in the commercial interior design or medical
> arena that might wish to comment on the ergonomics of a properly
> designed station layout as it applies to eye strain and eye damage to
> our aging contest community? . Bob Perring
> ........................................... Amateur Radio Station
> N5RP mailto:N5RP@pdq.net N5RP Station Page:
> http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>
Ergonomics of computer use - nothing earth-shattering here. The
monitor should be at eye level, not above. This is more to prevent
neck problems than eye problems. The focusing muscles in the
eyes contract to focus close up, such as on a monitor. This does
no harm, but may lead to "eyestrain" or headache. The focusing
muscles relax to their resting state when you look across the room
- not a bad idea to do this periodically. If you are over 40-45, and
you don't wear glasses, you probably will need them for extended
close work. If you do wear glasses already for distance, you
probably will need correction for close work.
Glaucoma - Glaucoma is a disease of optic nerve damage that can
lead to blindness without treatment. There are many kinds of
glaucoma. The most common type is open-angle glaucoma
(90+%). It is slowly progressive over months to years. In its early
stages, it is usually without symptoms. By the time you notice a
"blind spot" in your vision, about 90% of your field of vision is gone
and cannot be recovered. It is usually treated with eye drops,
sometimes with laser, sometimes with surgery.
Narrow (or closed) angle glaucoma is much less common, but is a
medical emergency, often leading to blindness within a few days, if
not treated. Symptoms may include pain, redness, blurry vision
and headache. It most often occurs in dim lighting, such as movie
theaters and ham shacks. The "glaucoma attack" may be initially
treated with medication, then followed by laser, which is usually
curative.
2% of Americans of European descent have glaucoma. 10% of
Americans of African descent have glaucoma. It often runs in
families, but not necessarily.
If you are over 40, have your eyes examined every 2 years, even if
you have no problems with them. If you are diabetic, make that
every year.
73,
Dr. Barry, W2UP
Disclaimer - I am an ophthalmologist licensed to practice medicine
in PA and NJ. This e-mail is general information only and should
not be interpreted as medical advice or the practice of medicine.
--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From tree at kkn.net Wed Apr 24 13:56:13 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree N6TR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
Message-ID: <200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
But - with the exception of the Poisson D'Avril contest on the
first, there just doesn't seem to be much going on.
It really makes it hard for us two radio guys to keep our skills
in shape.
At any rate - if anyone does know of any contests coming up this
weekend, that might not be well publicized, please let me know.
Maybe the Podunk Stew Perry Kid's QSO Party Sprint or something...
73 Tree N6TR
tree@kkn.net
>From ford at cmgate.com Wed Apr 24 16:09:15 2002
From: ford@cmgate.com (Ford Peterson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <000801c1ebcb$ea1026a0$13ed83d1@office>
Mike Gilmer wrote:
>
> The right question is: Does SO2R warrant a separate
> category (and why)? The number of things providing
> (significant or otherwise) advantage is virtually
> endless and they have been listed here ad nauseum.
> Virtually none of them have a distinct category. Why
> does SO2R stand out in some minds? I sense it is not
> simply because it offers an advantage. To me it
> almost seems like it is simply because it is a
> politically-correct-to-question operating technique.
>
SO2R is to contesting what running two fishing lines is to a fishing
contest. Two radios does not double the Qs. It may however double your
score. Chasing down mults while running a frequency is not rocket
science--especially when the run rate slows. Checking activity on other
bands with one radio requires giving up a run frequency.
Comparing a station with two radios to a station with one radio is not a
fair comparison. Comparing a station with a beam and a dipole is very
comparable to a station with 6 mono banders. In each case, only one antenna
gets used at a time.
SO2R is more akin to multi-multi operation than a multi-single. To compare
SO2R to a single op-single radio is quite unfair. There is nothing
"political" about it. It's simple physics, rudimentary probabilities, basic
ergonomics.
SO2R should be a category on its own, just like the "assisted" notion we now
embrace as "logical."
Ford-N?FP
ford@cmgate.com
>From Jimk8mr at aol.com Wed Apr 24 17:21:49 2002
From: Jimk8mr@aol.com (Jimk8mr@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <1a7.14b8401.29f86ddd@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/24/02 3:00:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
n2mg@contesting.com writes:
> Why
> does SO2R stand out in some minds? I sense it is not
> simply because it offers an advantage. To me it
> almost seems like it is simply because it is a
> politically-correct-to-question operating technique.
SO2R stands out in my mind not because it lets a person run up a bigger score
than would, say, a huge antenna farm, but because it leads to different
operating techniques that while great for the user are not so great for the
rest of contest community.
For years one had to, from time to time, abandon a run frequency to find the
many multipliers - mainly operations that are the only activity from that
country - who would never answer a USA station's CQ. This would then open up
a frequency that would be up for grabs for the first person who happened to
arrive there.
With SO2R the savvy operator just keeps CQing away, while finding and working
those mults on his second radio. That run frequency never becomes available
for anyone else.
For a number of years this may have been a managable problem, since automated
CQing was confined to CW, where there is just about always a little more room
at the top of the band. When voice keyers arrived on the scene in SSB
contests, SO2R became a bigger problem because there is never just a little
more room above 14350 or 21450.
SO2R is a natural evolutionary outcome of the quest for bigger and better.
It's great for the guys who can equip a station for it and use it well. For
the rest of us, forgive us if we aren't so excited by it. Tuning up and down
a band listening to the same guys CQing gets old quickly.
Check out the phone DX contests in about 4 years when we don't have 900 KHz
of useful spectrum on 28 MHz...
That said, I see nothing to be gained by making it a separate category. I
see no harm in making available the information on who is using it.
Jim K8MR
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Wed Apr 24 21:23:55 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R Nonsense
In-Reply-To: <000701c1ebba$eb9c0680$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
Message-ID: <000301c1ebcd$f636bcd0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
> I can't wait to hear when someone has managed to "perfect" a
> really efficient SO3R. I don't think it has happened yet, but
> I am sure it will and I will applaud it when it does!
Hey, s51ta did so6r here for wpx ssb this year and did pretty good for
his first try at it. There are just a few little bugs to work out and
it should be all ready for a real workout in a future contest! For one
he has to stretch his arms a bit to reach all the stuff, but once I get
all the autotune amps and auto turning antennas in place it should be
much easier. The biggest improvement will be when someone makes a
contest logger that will talk to all 6 radios at once. Then a so6r
headphone switcher with spatial separation of the 12 audio channels
would be nice, it would make the audio mixing look a bit less like a
recording studio. Think about that for a while, put 20m front and
center, 15m to the left, 10m to the right, then distribute 40m, 80m ,
and 160m above or below them, add virtual reality goggles and an eye
position sensor to pan you to the band you want to concentrate on, just
think of the possibilities!
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Wed Apr 24 17:29:17 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (James Jarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] blurred vision
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOELNDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Acute angle glaucoma.....I was diagnosed with it in my left
eye a couple of years ago, and had it treated. The right eye
is monitored regularly; the opthalmologist recommends
laser surgery, just to avoid the possibility of a problem.
As I understand it, this is a normal condition of aging for
a significant percentage of the population. Fluid in the
eyeball normally leaks out through ducts at the periphery
of the cornea. Those ducts get pinched in narrow-angle
glaucoma. This results in pressure building up.
In turn, this can limit blood flow to the retina..and ultimately
cause blindness.
W4AN observed that it's made worse under darkened room
conditions, when the pupils dilate. This is true,
but it doesn't cause the condition, as I understand it.
The normal aging process results in the eye changing shape,
which poses the problem.
The risk is that ocular pressure can build quickly under
some conditions.....like going to 9,000 feet pressure,
which is normal cabin pressure in a commercial jet plane.
The risk of loss of retinal cells due to lack of blood
flow is serious....blindness can result.
If you're over 40, you should ask about acute angle
glaucoma when you have your eyes regularly checked.
W2OX, himself an MD Opthalmologist, recommends glasses
for contesting that give you a wide field of view, at
the normal equipment distance. This will reduce fatigue,
keeping you in the chair longer.
Jim Jarvis
n2ea
>From n5nj at gte.net Wed Apr 24 16:34:03 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (Bob Naumann - N5NJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <81.1ab4fdd4.29f769c8@cs.com>
Message-ID: <014001c1ebcf$73e61260$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
It IS an advantage - but only to those who can do it well! There is no
need for any further analysis.
Heck, I run SO2R from home with my TH3jr at 15' and my vertical. It's cool,
but I'm not going to win anything from here so, it would be meaningless in
the summary.
SO2R requires more skill - not just more equipment.
If all that was required was more equipment, I could stack up six rigs and
guarantee an SS win - right?
Wrong!
I find myself agreeing with KQ2M on this.
N5NJ
----- Original Message -----
From: <W0uo@cs.com>
To: <kr6x@kr6x.com>; <CQ-CONTEST@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> KR6X,
>
> With all due respect, lets look at what I said:
>
> The quickest way to expose {an advantage, or lack thereof}, is to include
it
> in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage
exists
> within just a few months.
> >
> > If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect
between
> SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two
> major contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year
> to require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. (If SO2R
is
> the cause of an advantage}, one would expect the advantage to either be
> substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
> >
> > Sound like a fair test?
>
> Now, lets state two hypothesis. H0: SO2R is not a significant
advantage
> in contesting. H1: SO2R is a significant advantage in contesting.
Testing
> these hypotheses requires an experimental design. The simplest design,
but
> not the only one and maybe not the best, is to run two contests, one with
> current rules, one with a 3 minute band change limit for both SO1R and
SO2R.
> I could, but will not here, state a decision rule. It should be easy
for
> anyone with a background in statistics. Suffice it to say, if factors
other
> than SO2R are more significant, it will be born out in the measurements.
> There is no other way to end this argument. Them that have want to
keep
> it that way, them that do not want to (or cannot) invest the extra $3,000
or
> so that it takes to SO2R right want it changed.
> It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a significant advantage.
> Its time we found out.
>
> 73 de Jim
> W0UO/5
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>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Thu Apr 25 00:46:48 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
References: <Springmail.0994.1019003831.0.22034700@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
<005a01c1e5f3$d6c23530$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Message-ID: <023401c1ebd1$28b33550$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Today I got an impressive letter from Dick Norton, N6AA, member of CQWW
Contest Committee. He clearly showed me that I was was wrong in my
assumptions about mistakes in log checking and all the decisions of the
Committee were VERY CLEARLY reasoned and VERY WELL analyzed.
I want to apologize for any possible indirect accusations I made and for any
doubts I had in the accuracy of the log checking procedure. Iam more than
convinced now that this is an enormous job those guys are doing and I am
very impressed by the standards they have set and by the methods they use.
It goes far beyond what we see in UBN and NIL reports!
Dick clearly explained me that I was the only station working LY3BH actually
as the others were clear -Bs and it was quite certain that LY3BH was not in
the air. I confirmed it also having exchanged some emails with LY stations.
EA8ZC was actually us duping EA8ZS (the duplicate contact was in EA8ZS log!)
He proved me that several other -Bs that were worked by many stations
besides us were really with no doubt -Bs!
He admitted that F8BTQ was probably correct QSO and credit for it will be
restored in the
final run that will determine the score listed in the magazine. That was
probably one of the only errors in the log checking.
He also pointed my attention to the several U calls that should actually
have been marked -B!
There were some 20 of them! I guess you all have been thinking while looking
at the U calls in the UBN report that "Was I really the only one to work
this station or did I mess up the call but was just lucky to hit an existing
one???!!!" Well I have thought so and it felt like a gift of some kind
always!
So the actual subject of my intial posting should have been: "We submitted
the ES9C log with almost 10,000 QSOs, and it had one contact that appeared
to be incorrectly marked -B. There were at least 20 claimed QSOs that should
have been marked -B, but were not"
:)
So no more whining about the UBNs, lets try to be more accurate ourselves
and big thanks to those guys who have been striving to make our favourite
contest what it is!
73
Tonno
ES5TV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tonno Vahk" <tonno.vahk@mail.ee>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
> As far as UBNs were mentioned I might say that I noticed quite a few -B
> calls in our ES9C M/M UBN report that were actually absolutely fine and
> existing calls and had been worked by many stations - 30, 40, or even
more.
> There was seemingly no reason to determine them -B (no Wn or anything). I
> know for sure some of them were OK QSOs as I even remember them. Like my
> first QSO on 20m -
>
> 1 -B ly3bh(3) ly3by(1224)ww ly3bx(850)n ly3be(644)ww ly3bg(108) w3bh(2)
>
> It's a well-known contester from LY and we even chatted a few words in the
> beginning of the contest. He has only made a few QSOs as I suspect he
worked
> in some M/S team maybe...
>
> Another example on 20m:
>
> 2183 -B f8btq(17) f8bqq(552)h f8bdq(21) f8bvq(8) hb9btq(147) py7btq(6)
>
> and on 10m:
>
> 269 -B ea8zc(5) ea8zs(4250)ww ea8zz(12) ea8jc(7)
>
> It is a bit irritating actually, don't know if anybody else has noticed
> it...
>
> 73
> Tonno
> ES5TV
>
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>From hwardsil1 at mindspring.com Wed Apr 24 18:45:17 2002
From: hwardsil1@mindspring.com (hwardsil1@mindspring.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Honor Sprint - Not This Year
Message-ID: <Springmail.0994.1019684717.0.01296800@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
After inquiring about interest in running an Honor Sprint in May, I only got a
handful of responses, so I am not going to sponsor an Honor Sprint this year.
Sorry about that!
One idea that did come up was that of running a "doubleheader" sprint, with 2
hours on 10-15 in the morning and 2 hours on 20-40 in the evening. I might do
that some other time.
73, Ward N0AX
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Wed Apr 24 16:06:18 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <00c601c1ebdc$43c019c0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Mike --
Beyond the issue of whether SO2R deserves a category by itself
there's a new one that is seldom mentioned.
If a contest sponsor were to create an SO2R category, then would
there be any way to enforce it? Or could the sponsor simply be
creating a new way to cheat?
Admittedly, if the two rigs are on two different bands one could
draw inferences from the number of bandchanges that occur.
But SO2R can be implemented using two rigs and two antennas
on the same band in a few cases. It might sound far fetched on
the surface, but the cross-rig interference potential isn't completely
insurmountable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:31
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> On Tue, 23 April 2002, W0uo@cs.com wrote
>
> > It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a
> > significant advantage. Its time we found out.
>
> This is the wrong question.
>
> No one said that SO2R was not an advantage. From what
> I've read, most agree that it is a significant
> advantage. Anything that provides a detectable
> improvement to one's score is a "significant"
> advantage - IOW, one worth undertaking. If it wasn't
> an advantage, why would anyone bother doing it?
>
> The right question is: Does SO2R warrant a separate
> category (and why)? The number of things providing
> (significant or otherwise) advantage is virtually
> endless and they have been listed here ad nauseum.
> Virtually none of them have a distinct category. Why
> does SO2R stand out in some minds? I sense it is not
> simply because it offers an advantage. To me it
> almost seems like it is simply because it is a
> politically-correct-to-question operating technique.
>
> Is it a bolt-on advantage like an amplifier? No, SO2R
> requires a high degree of skill to use. Is it like
> packet? No, all advantages from SO2R come from within
> one's own efforts. Is it like having big antennas
> (which generally have no separate category)? No, most
> of the work required to extract an advantage from big
> antennas is done well before the contest period.
>
> 73 Mike N2MG
>
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>From 107770.3462 at compuserve.com Wed Apr 24 22:26:56 2002
From: 107770.3462@compuserve.com (James P. Cassidy)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Honor Sprint
Message-ID: <200204242127_MC3-FB4C-FF8D@compuserve.com>
OK Ward, Sorry there wasn't more interest. N6TR will just have to put up
with the lack of action. Maybe use the contest simulator.
73 Jim KI7Y
>From n2mg at contesting.com Wed Apr 24 19:29:09 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID:
<20020424182911.27816.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Wed, 24 April 2002, Jimk8mr@aol.com wrote
> For years one had to, from time to time, abandon a
> run frequency to find the many multipliers...
> <snip>
> With SO2R the savvy operator just keeps CQing away,
> while finding and working those mults on his second
> radio. That run frequency never becomes available
> for anyone else.
>
At the risk of not knowing the answer to a question
before I ask it, I wonder how true this is? It would
be good to compare the logs of top SO1R and SO2R
stations and compare the "park time" on a given run
freq.
Although I may be wrong, I suspect, just like the
difference in total score, the effect of SO2R on
frequency occupation is less than some imagine.
SO2R guys are generally NOT working mults on the same
band they are CQing on. So if they are CQing on 10m
and want to hunt mults on 10m (a typical move for an
SO1R guy), most SO2R ops are going to have to start
CQing on 15m - freeing up the 10m run freq. "Savvy"
SO2R guys move around on the bands a lot.
> Tuning up and down a band listening to the same guys
> CQing gets old quickly.
You can't possibly mean to suggest that the SO2R guys
are to blame for this?
> Check out the phone DX contests in about 4 years
> when we don't have 900 KHz
> of useful spectrum on 28 MHz...
This happens every cycle. IMO, there will be little
clear distinction between the zoo that will exist on
20m with or without there being SO2R operations.
> I see no harm in making available the information on
> who is using it.
Let's list all the pertinent info, then - the ARRL
would "only" publish it on the web anyway (where
bandwidth is "cheap"). Let's list all the antennas,
amplifiers, DSP equipment, auto-switching
arrangements, whether or not the operator had his
meals served to him, or had a bathroom within 15 feet
of the shack, etc.
Mike N2MG
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>From ve4xt at mts.net Wed Apr 24 21:46:52 2002
From: ve4xt@mts.net (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
<000801c1ebcb$ea1026a0$13ed83d1@office>
Message-ID: <008801c1ebfb$13dc2e00$0100a8c0@joe>
Comparing SO2R and assisted is not a fair analogy. Packet requires no skill,
involves the assistance of others and makes mult hunting the equivalent of
shooting fish in a barrel.
SO2R requires considerable skill, involves no outside assistance and makes
mult hunting EVEN MORE difficult as singly you must juggle numerous stimuli
while still making sense of what you're sending and what you're receiving,
often in both ears at once.
You can't buy SO2R, no matter how much money you throw at Yaecomwood and
WX0B. This notion that somehow you buy a second radio and all of a sudden
you're God's gift to contesting is patently false. It is very difficult. It
requires an operator to be highly proficient at all we hold dear. To
marginalize their efforts by forcing them into a secluded playing field is
to discourage excellence. Funny how you don't hear the Toronto Blue Jays
demanding that the New York Yankees be placed into a different category.
Now, creating an SO1R category that operators could voluntarily enter --
assuming they are indeed using only one radio -- gives an out to people who
choose, for whatever reason, to compete at a different level while
preserving the high standards of the main single op category. It's a
win-win. People who feel cheated by SO2R can now compete amongst like-minded
individuals while those who want to measure themselves against the best can
continue to do so. I suspect the majority of ops would remain in the main
category irrespective of how many radios they are running.
Remember the category refers to single OPERATOR. Even if he has three
radios, there's still just ONE operator.
> SO2R should be a category on its own, just like the "assisted" notion we
now
embrace as "logical."
Ford-N?FP
ford@cmgate.com
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>From k5ka at earthlink.net Wed Apr 24 21:48:14 2002
From: k5ka@earthlink.net (Ken Adams K5KA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO1R vs SO2R
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20020424204814.006d4ecc@earthlink.net>
This seems to come up every few months and the solution
that is always promoted is to create a new category for
SO2R. Instead of waiting for a sponsor to do that (which
won't happen), why not sponsor a plaque for SO1R ?
That's easy to do in every contest and it is something that
you have under your own control.
Ken K5KA
>From je1cka at jzap.com Thu Apr 25 12:19:26 2002
From: je1cka@jzap.com (Tack Kumagai)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums (JIDX CW)
In-Reply-To: Tree N6TR's message of "Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:56:13 -0700"
<200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
References: <200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <200204250219.LAA24615@ne.nal.go.jp>
In message "[CQ-Contest] April doldrums"
on 02/04/24, Tree N6TR <tree@kkn.net> writes:
:
:
: Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
:
: We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
Oh!! Please do not forget the JIDX HFCW contest in 2nd full weekend.
This JIDX HFCW contest will be JIDX CW contest in 2003.
LFCW(2nd wkend in Jan) and HFCW(2nd wkend in Apr) will be merged
into one CW contest. The complete rule will be announced soon.
---------
JIDX contest committee chairman
Tack Kumagai JE1CKA/KH0AM
Email: jidx-chairman@ne.nal.go.jp
http://je1cka.jzap.com/jidx/
>From k0il at arrl.net Wed Apr 24 23:01:59 2002
From: k0il@arrl.net (Ed - K0iL)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Nebraska QSO Party Reminder
Message-ID: <01C1EBDB.A99405A0.k0il@arrl.net>
Being a little more low key here in Nebraska, this'll be the only last
minute reminder you'll get on the reflector about:
*** The Nebraska QSO Party ***
April 27th & 28th
1700 zulu Saturday to 1700 zulu Sunday
For complete rules, details and paperwork go to:
http://www.qsl.net/hdxa/neqso/
If you live near Nebraska and have mobile HF capabilities, come on over and
have some fun running counties. A ham from Oregon is flying in to operate
portable from Burt County Saturday and Cumming county on Sunday morning.
The rest of ya should just get on the air this weekend and work every
Nebraska Station you run across! You'll feel better afterwards.
Special Nebraska Stations to look out for:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
W7DRA/p - Mike will be portable in Burt & Cumming counties.
KG0KR - Beth. Local mobile op gives out several counties each year.
K0AIR - Strategic Air Command Memorial Club will be operating again from
Douglas County's EOC underground.
K0iL - Douglas County (not rare unless you need it!)
Just Call "CQ N-F QP" or maybe F-N QP. Or if you're lookin' for a real
challenge, just hunt for the NQP stations! But just work it! See you in
the Parties.
73,
de ed -K0iL
HDXA V.P.
-.-. --.- .... .- -- ... -.. . -.- ----- .. .-.. -.-
Ed Edwards -- K0iL
PO Box 375
Elkhorn, NE 68022-0375 k0il@qsl.net
Visit my web site: http://www.qsl.net/k0il
or HDXA's web site: http://www.qsl.net/hdxa
--... ...-- . ... --. .-.. - --- ..- --- -- ...-.- . .
"It's Not The End Of The Earth, But You Can See It From Here"
by Roger Welsch. Recommended NQP Reading List
>From va3uz at rac.ca Thu Apr 25 00:26:29 2002
From: va3uz@rac.ca (VA3UZ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <20020420042905.25369.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00e301c1ec0d$f2970cc0$0201a8c0@yuri>
>
> Yes. All contesters (callsign) will be on culsters.
> The contest program will make a callsign-map per band.
> We can see the call-map on monitor. We will no need
> any hunting (mults, etc.). The logging program will
> know what we needed. Perhaps a "help-program" will be
> able to make some important mults for us WITHOUT US.
> And finally we will no need to fight 40-48 hours non
> stop, it will be enough to check our PC by hours. Or
> it will be enough to push a BIG ENTER at the start of
> the contest...(??) This is the future of contesting.
>
>
> 73
> Zoli
> HA5PP
>
Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be definitely
out of it.
Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
>From tavan at tibco.com Wed Apr 24 22:20:10 2002
From: tavan@tibco.com (Rick Tavan)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
References: <200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <3CC783F9.ACC2FD84@tibco.com>
OK, Tree, your assignment for April is to make the trlog simulator simulate
SO2R.
/Rick N6XI
Tree N6TR wrote:
> Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
>
> We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
>
> But - with the exception of the Poisson D'Avril contest on the
> first, there just doesn't seem to be much going on.
>
> It really makes it hard for us two radio guys to keep our skills
> in shape.
>
> At any rate - if anyone does know of any contests coming up this
> weekend, that might not be well publicized, please let me know.
> Maybe the Podunk Stew Perry Kid's QSO Party Sprint or something...
>
> 73 Tree N6TR
> tree@kkn.net
>From rv1aw at inbox.ru Thu Apr 25 10:22:22 2002
From: rv1aw@inbox.ru (Andrey Karpov)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Praha (OK)
Message-ID: <E170bi2-0009TM-00@f4.mail.ru>
I'm going to be in Praha with wife from 28th April until 5th May for rest.
We'll be staying in "CHODSKA" hotel. I'd love to get together with other
contesters in the area. If you're interested in gathering, please drop me a
mail.
73! Andrei Karpov RV1AW & RU1A
>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Apr 25 05:27:44 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <000201c1ec22$e0d23400$6a3dfa43@computer>
QUACK's
Gosh I'm sure we had this same discussion Last year and The year before
etc:
How many times we gonna have to read this STUFF
Nuff Said Already
Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Sutcliffe" <ums@nconnect.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 13:06
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> Radio contesting is unfair. Someone with better antennas, radios,
location,
> etc. will always have an advantage over an equivalent operator with a
> lesser station. That's life. Or, maybe it is just a natural part of a
> competition that encourages innovation.
>
> The one thing about SO2R is that just writing a check and adding SO2R
> capabilities to your station will not give you the automatic improvement
> that other equipment upgrades would. You have to put the effort in to
learn
> to do it effectively. IMHO, SO2R is the major change in contesting that is
> mostly based on operator skill.
>
> I think we should applaud those who put the effort in to operate SO2R
> effectively. We should also applaud those who work to improve other
> contesting skills like pulling weak ones out of the noise, better typing
> skills, better pileup techniques, better run skills, better S&P skills,
> etc. I don't see a whole lot of difference.
>
> 73 - Gary, W9XT (whose limited moves into SO2R have probably cost more
> QSO's than they gained :-)
>
>
> ____________
> Gary Sutcliffe, W9XT Unified Microsystems
> ums@nconnect.net PO Box 133
> http://www.QTH.com/w9xt Slinger, WI 53086
>
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>From i4jmy at iol.it Thu Apr 25 13:09:05 2002
From: i4jmy@iol.it (Maurizio Panicara)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
References: <Springmail.0994.1019003831.0.22034700@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
<005a01c1e5f3$d6c23530$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
<023401c1ebd1$28b33550$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Message-ID: <002801c1ec41$434354c0$42941a97@i4jmy>
The CQWWDX is definitely my favourite contest also because of the great job
that's behind, the accurate log checking and the respect I've for the huge
effort of the committee.
The weak point in the system is not the log checking procedure, the best
possible, but the fact that known that logs will be analyzed, a number of
logs are actually "revised" (i.e. QSO removed to fit with some rule) and
"corrected" (officially against so called typos, hi) before submission.
I've been told of logs fully rewised with tape recordings, but also
statistically, against databases of previous contests or cross checked with
several logs of the contest in object.
Stated that either behaviours aren't in the rules but exist, it probably
happens that many unique calls (I mean self found uniques) are statistically
corrected into a "most probable call" by many, choosing to correct the
"typo" into a call with higher recurrence in previous contests. Like this,
the same procedure used by many with similar databases, a fake but valid qso
will be created if that station didn't enter the contest at all, or the
"ex-unique" didn't send his log.
In the same way, stated that a removed qso isn't in the log, it's hard to
verify (or prove) that originally it was.
73,
Mauri I4JMY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tonno Vahk" <tonno.vahk@mail.ee>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:46 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
> Today I got an impressive letter from Dick Norton, N6AA, member of CQWW
> Contest Committee. He clearly showed me that I was was wrong in my
> assumptions about mistakes in log checking and all the decisions of the
> Committee were VERY CLEARLY reasoned and VERY WELL analyzed.
>
> I want to apologize for any possible indirect accusations I made and for
any
> doubts I had in the accuracy of the log checking procedure. Iam more than
> convinced now that this is an enormous job those guys are doing and I am
> very impressed by the standards they have set and by the methods they use.
> It goes far beyond what we see in UBN and NIL reports!
>
> Dick clearly explained me that I was the only station working LY3BH
actually
> as the others were clear -Bs and it was quite certain that LY3BH was not
in
> the air. I confirmed it also having exchanged some emails with LY
stations.
>
> EA8ZC was actually us duping EA8ZS (the duplicate contact was in EA8ZS
log!)
>
> He proved me that several other -Bs that were worked by many stations
> besides us were really with no doubt -Bs!
>
> He admitted that F8BTQ was probably correct QSO and credit for it will be
> restored in the
> final run that will determine the score listed in the magazine. That was
> probably one of the only errors in the log checking.
>
> He also pointed my attention to the several U calls that should actually
> have been marked -B!
> There were some 20 of them! I guess you all have been thinking while
looking
> at the U calls in the UBN report that "Was I really the only one to work
> this station or did I mess up the call but was just lucky to hit an
existing
> one???!!!" Well I have thought so and it felt like a gift of some kind
> always!
>
> So the actual subject of my intial posting should have been: "We submitted
> the ES9C log with almost 10,000 QSOs, and it had one contact that appeared
> to be incorrectly marked -B. There were at least 20 claimed QSOs that
should
> have been marked -B, but were not"
>
> :)
>
> So no more whining about the UBNs, lets try to be more accurate ourselves
> and big thanks to those guys who have been striving to make our favourite
> contest what it is!
>
> 73
> Tonno
> ES5TV
>From tautvydas at achema.com Thu Apr 25 14:40:07 2002
From: tautvydas@achema.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tautvydas_Misi=FBnas?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] e-QSL change of policy
Message-ID: <00ad01c1ec4d$f880ebc0$a800a8c0@tautvydas>
I became e-QSL system user a while ago and it worked perfectly up to this
major change done.Sorry,but now my inbox size reached maybe 500 QSO's and I
can do nothing:my attempts to upload ADIF files are vain-just very small
files with less than 100 QSO's get through,larger do not!
E-QSL page became extermely slow,maybe due to sharply increased
attendance.This system needs radical upgrade to use it safely and easily.DAT
and DTA files should be accepted for sure.
e-QSLing is our future definitely and system is in transition now .As
financing to develope it is needed ,subsribtion system must be introduced.
My appologies to the guys who are waiting my return e-QSL,maybe it will
be possible one day...
73 ,Ted,LY2OX
>From k8do at amethyst.diamondcs.net Thu Apr 25 09:01:35 2002
From: k8do@amethyst.diamondcs.net (Dennis O'Connor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
<E170SrW-0004AP-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <002d01c1ec50$f817c250$20996c40@gq7mb01>
An opthalmologist! And here I thought you were a real doctor....
Denny - GP for a quarter century...
<snicker>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
> On 24 Apr 02, at 10:06, Bob, N5RP wrote:
>
> > At 09:45 4/24/2002 -0400, Bill Fisher, W4AN wrote:
> > >I'm passing this along so you will be aware of this possibility . . .
> > >
> > >For the past four or five years when I operated in contests, I got
> > >blurred vision.
> > <snip>
> > =========================>
> > Yes, as Bill mentions, the torture on the eyes from hamming in front
> > of computers presents some real dangers and problems to our aging
> > community.
> >
> > I've done some research on this very problem for my own benefit, and
> > my wife, for my benefit, has done some looking around for information
> > on the subject, as well.
> >
> > Before I dare get in trouble for "impersonating" a professional by
> > mentioning what I came to discover on the subject, are there any
> > professionals out there in the commercial interior design or medical
> > arena that might wish to comment on the ergonomics of a properly
> > designed station layout as it applies to eye strain and eye damage to
> > our aging contest community? . Bob Perring
> > ........................................... Amateur Radio Station
> > N5RP mailto:N5RP@pdq.net N5RP Station Page:
> > http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
> >
>
> Ergonomics of computer use - nothing earth-shattering here. The
> monitor should be at eye level, not above. This is more to prevent
> neck problems than eye problems. The focusing muscles in the
> eyes contract to focus close up, such as on a monitor. This does
> no harm, but may lead to "eyestrain" or headache. The focusing
> muscles relax to their resting state when you look across the room
> - not a bad idea to do this periodically. If you are over 40-45, and
> you don't wear glasses, you probably will need them for extended
> close work. If you do wear glasses already for distance, you
> probably will need correction for close work.
>
> Glaucoma - Glaucoma is a disease of optic nerve damage that can
> lead to blindness without treatment. There are many kinds of
> glaucoma. The most common type is open-angle glaucoma
> (90+%). It is slowly progressive over months to years. In its early
> stages, it is usually without symptoms. By the time you notice a
> "blind spot" in your vision, about 90% of your field of vision is gone
> and cannot be recovered. It is usually treated with eye drops,
> sometimes with laser, sometimes with surgery.
> Narrow (or closed) angle glaucoma is much less common, but is a
> medical emergency, often leading to blindness within a few days, if
> not treated. Symptoms may include pain, redness, blurry vision
> and headache. It most often occurs in dim lighting, such as movie
> theaters and ham shacks. The "glaucoma attack" may be initially
> treated with medication, then followed by laser, which is usually
> curative.
> 2% of Americans of European descent have glaucoma. 10% of
> Americans of African descent have glaucoma. It often runs in
> families, but not necessarily.
>
> If you are over 40, have your eyes examined every 2 years, even if
> you have no problems with them. If you are diabetic, make that
> every year.
>
> 73,
> Dr. Barry, W2UP
>
> Disclaimer - I am an ophthalmologist licensed to practice medicine
> in PA and NJ. This e-mail is general information only and should
> not be interpreted as medical advice or the practice of medicine.
>
> --
> Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>
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>From tgardner at glcc.com Thu Apr 25 09:19:32 2002
From: tgardner@glcc.com (Tim Gardner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Indiana QSO Party - May 4
Message-ID: <scc7bc1e.058@USGSFS01.g-l.com>
Greetings all,
Just a reminder that the Indiana QSO Party is coming
next weekend ? May 4, 2002.
Please check out the completely revamped website at
www.hdxcc.org/inqp for all the details, rules and
links for free logging software.
We know of planned operations that will put about 75%
of Indiana's 92 counties on the air. If you know of
others, please let us know by sending email to
inqp@hdxcc.org. You will find a map showing all the
operations known to us on our web site (check the
"Activity" link).
'73
Tim - N9LF
>From k8do at amethyst.diamondcs.net Thu Apr 25 09:34:10 2002
From: k8do@amethyst.diamondcs.net (Dennis O'Connor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <cb.211a4d32.29f72b81@aol.com>
<002901c1eb19$6561c2e0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Message-ID: <00ba01c1ec55$838fcfe0$20996c40@gq7mb01>
Leigh, like you I am always interested in new ideas... But this one I
love... You run an SO8R and I will follow you around... I can probably make
a good living off the guys answering your run radio that you don't hear on
the first call... In fact, that gives me an idea for a new catagory... Two
station, single frequency contesting... I will call it TS, for short...
Just think of the possibilities... More than one station working a
frequency... Think of the increase in scores...Think of the camraderie as we
all work the same DX station on the same frequency... This would be real
TS...
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com>
To: <ALANNOTTAGE@aol.com>; <CQ-CONTEST@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> Right idea, but the wrong definition. 8 radios and 8 towers wouldn't even
> be competitive as a multi-multi station. But SO8R, now you're talking!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ALANNOTTAGE@aol.com>
> To: <kr6x@kr6x.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 14:26
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>
> > How about FOR - 'full-on radio' i.e 8 radios and 8 towers!!!!
> >
> > Al G0XBV
> >
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>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:12:32 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
Message-ID: <20020425141358.NMXQ962.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/24/02 3:56 PM, Tree N6TR at tree@kkn.net wrote:
>Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
Isn't this because Dayton was traditionally held in April?
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From w4au at contesting.com Thu Apr 25 10:10:25 2002
From: w4au@contesting.com (John Unger)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
In-Reply-To: <200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020425090623.00c10c30@gsvaresm01.er.usgs.gov>
Tree -
I think the Florida QSO Party is coming up sometime soon, but that usually
conflicts with Dayton, doesn't it? Also I may be confused after reading all the
messages on this reflector, but I believe that the new FQP rules do not allow
SO2R stations this year unless they append their calls with /SO2R.
73 - John, W4AU
At 12:56 4/24/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
>
>We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
>
>But - with the exception of the Poisson D'Avril contest on the
>first, there just doesn't seem to be much going on.
>
>It really makes it hard for us two radio guys to keep our skills
>in shape.
>
>At any rate - if anyone does know of any contests coming up this
>weekend, that might not be well publicized, please let me know.
>Maybe the Podunk Stew Perry Kid's QSO Party Sprint or something...
>
>73 Tree N6TR
>tree@kkn.net
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>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 25 07:11:28 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID:
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On Wed, 24 April 2002, "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" wrote
> If a contest sponsor were to create an SO2R
> category, then would there be any way to enforce
> it? Or could the sponsor simply be creating a new
> way to cheat?
While a valid point, this would not be unique to an
SO2R category. Almost ALL categories (hell, even your
state/section) are essentially unenforceable.
> Admittedly, if the two rigs are on two different
> bands one could draw inferences from the number of
> bandchanges that occur.
While there is surely a high correlation between the
number and timing of band changes and SO2R operation,
(hell, there is already freeware that proports to tell
one how many "second radio" QSOs were made) it *is*
possible for one radio (even a radio with one VFO knob
like a 940), one autotune amp and automatic antenna
switching to be used to nab QSOs on bands other than
the one being CQed on. Not nearly as efficient or
effective as true SO2R, but the results in the log
would be fairly similar.
My guess is that anyone "cheating" an SO2R rule is out
of the running anyway. I think most guys would be
proud of the fact that they ran it!
> But SO2R can be implemented using two rigs and two
> antennas on the same band in a few cases. It might
> sound far fetched on the surface, but the cross-rig
> interference potential isn't completely
> insurmountable.
While admittedly not trivial, this is definitely do-
able (being done currently by at least one multi-op
station).
73 Mike N2MG
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>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 25 07:23:26 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
Message-ID:
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Tonno,
I, too, have had several correspondences with the CQWW
committee and/or log checking folks. Each of the
responses I received was courteous and enlightening.
The more I learned (directly from them and not from
speculation on the reflector), the more I realized
these guys know what the hell they are doing. The
techniques are logical and well constructed. And,
might I add, apparently still very closely scrutinized
by humans.
It's only too bad that they haven't figured out a way
to make a public document describing some of their
techniques without giving away their, excuse the
term, "secrets". They understandably want to avoid
folks attempting to "wash" their logs based on the
criteria.
Mike N2MG
On Wed, 24 April 2002, "Tonno Vahk" wrote
>
> Today I got an impressive letter from Dick Norton,
N6AA, member of CQWW
> Contest Committee. He clearly showed me that I was
was wrong in my
> assumptions about mistakes in log checking and all
the decisions of the
> Committee were VERY CLEARLY reasoned and VERY WELL
analyzed.
>
> I want to apologize for any possible indirect
accusations I made and for any
> doubts I had in the accuracy of the log checking
procedure. Iam more than
> convinced now that this is an enormous job those guys
are doing and I am
> very impressed by the standards they have set and by
the methods they use.
> It goes far beyond what we see in UBN and NIL reports!
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>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:53:08 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425145434.BEQW12902.imf16bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/24/02 12:33 AM, Leigh S. Jones at kr6x@kr6x.com wrote:
>With the average modern new transceiver price being
>around $3500-$5000, the modern competitive amplifier
>new price $2500-$4000, and the remaining hardware
>required to go to full SO2R around $500-$1000, the
>price of adding SO2R capability to an existing station
>can range between $7500 and $10,000.
Horsepucky.
You don't NEED a NEW transceiver for SO2R. A second-hand radio will do
just fine.
You don't NEED an amplifier for SO2R. If you don't like going barefoot,
even a modest amplifier will provide some cover.
You need some switching, perhaps some filtering, and a second tranceiver.
You can probably add SO2R capability to an existing station for
$500-1000, easily. Maybe to $1500 if you insist on having an amplifier.
If you've already got $10,000 in your station (for the first radio and
antennas), another $1000 isn't much.
Me? I can't afford a $10,000 ham station.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:21:11 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425142237.LNET28927.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/23/02 1:46 PM, w0uo@cs.com at w0uo@cs.com wrote:
>The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to include it
>in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage
>exists within just a few months.
While the contest sponsors don't report it in every case, you'll find
that the forms for the 3830 list DO have a field for SO2R operation.
It wouldn't be hard to correlate the listings on 3830 with the contest
results.
(And what about the RTTY contest guys who run SO3R?)
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 12:06:48 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425150814.TQOW20943.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/24/02 4:09 PM, Ford Peterson at ford@cmgate.com wrote:
>SO2R is to contesting what running two fishing lines is to a fishing
>contest.
Not exactly. SO2R doesn't mean you can transmit on both similtaneously.
You are still constrained to have one transmitted signal on the air at
one time.
It's more like having two fishing lines where only one line is in the
water at a time....
>Comparing a station with two radios to a station with one radio is not a
>fair comparison.
No? I have two radios. (Just built an Elecraft K2) I don't see any
single-radio operators quaking in their boots over it.
>Comparing a station with a beam and a dipole is very
>comparable to a station with 6 mono banders. In each case, only one antenna
>gets used at a time.
Define "used".
And I disagree. A tribander and a dipole is not comparable to multiple
tribanders or monoband antennas. In fact, the CQ WPX committee agrees
with me. That's why they have the TS category. Even so, there's a huge
difference in the "T". A Butternut HF5B isn't comparable to a Force12
C51XR.
>SO2R is more akin to multi-multi operation than a multi-single.
Not at all. Only one transmitted signal. Only one operator. I don't see
any relation at all to the multi-operator categories.
However, a Multi-Single station configuration often makes an adequate
SO2R station.
> To compare
>SO2R to a single op-single radio is quite unfair.
Not at all. It's just one guy with more equipment!
> There is nothing
>"political" about it. It's simple physics, rudimentary probabilities, basic
>ergonomics.
Poppycock.
>SO2R should be a category on its own, just like the "assisted" notion we now
>embrace as "logical."
No! Assisted involves having some other person do spotting of stations
for you. SO2R is ONE guy. UNO! What's worse, he's got more hardware to
manage.
Further, modern radios really confuse the SO2R issue. Is a guy using an
FT-1000 using two radios? The MP can receive in two portions of the same
band, and the FT-1000D can receive on two different bands? The new TenTec
Orion may make the whole situation worse (Unlike the Yeasu, it is unclear
if the Orion blanks both receivers during transmit).
Look again. The category is "Single Operator". The contest sponsors
typically make no mention of how much equipment he is using. So long as
the condition of one transmitted signal at any one time, appropriate
power level, and assistance (or lack thereof), there is no reason to make
a different category just because someone listens to more than one
receiver at a time.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:28:04 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425142930.OYGG15548.imf02bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/23/02 5:05 PM, aa4ga@hemc.net at aa4ga@hemc.net wrote:
>Uh, who says SO2R isn't an advantage? Of course it is to those doing
>it, or they wouldn't be doing it.
Not exactly, Lee. Certainly the operator must perceive it to be an
advantage, or they wouldn't do it. I think it takes considerable skill
for it to be a true advantage. And some SO2R operators don't perform as
well as SO1R operators.
>Some folks don't have the typing skills to utilize the computer
>logging advantage, and some folks don't have the multi-tasking skills
>to utilize the SO2R advantage.
W4AN's comment to me, when I tried SO2R operating in the 1995 SS SSB was
"you can't learn to do this in a single contest." Bill has literally
spent weeks in the shack chair, making casual QSOs on one rig while
listening with on ear to another radio. It's much harder than it sounds.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:46:59 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425144826.QKRA14245.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/23/02 7:11 PM, Leigh S. Jones, KR6X at kr6x@kr6x.com wrote:
>Only those who are already scoring
>near the top of the listings would consider spending the extra
>money for a second transceiver, a second amplifier, any
>filters required, etc., and then doing the extra work of
>separating feedlines, stacked antennas, and system grounds
>plus running the extra radio interface cables from the logging
>computer to the transceivers.
Seems like this is a mis-conception as well. Why do the two stations have
to be equal? Consider - to get benefit from SO2R, do you really need a
top-of-the-line transceiver? Do you really need a second amplifier? Do
you really need equivalent antennas for both stations?
If you already have a very competitive contest station -- do you really
need to double it for SO2R? I don't think so. There's several scenarios.
Consider:
A) The second radio will be used virtually exclusively for S & P. Do you
need an amplifier for this? Seems one could make virtually the same
number of QSOs barefoot S & P as one could with an amp. And if there's
some important multiplier to be had, perhaps bringing radio one to bear
might be worth the trouble.
B) Since you're not calling CQ, aren't you less likely to be digging out
really weak callers on the second radio? Perhaps you don't need such an
elaborate transceiver, or big stacks of antennas. Perhaps just adding a
single tribander and a couple of dipoles would be sufficient, or even one
of those multi-band vertical dummy loads might work. (W4AN used an R5 for
second radio practice) A second-hand radio might do passibly well, or
perhaps a miniature mobile rig. (K4OGG moves his mobile HF radio to the
shack for contests)
C) Can you leverage your existing antenna system? W4AN didn't add a
single antenna to run SO2R at his superstation. Why? He's got a single
feedline for each band. Antennas are easily switched from one radio to
the other. If you already have monoband antennas on every band, you don't
need more antennas.
--
I'm working to add SO2R operation to my very modest station on a tight
budget. I have no amplifier(s). I'm looking to improve my low-power
scores. I recently built a K2 (which will become a K2-100 soon), and
already have an old TS-430S. At low power, I don't appear to need any
filters. Antennas are modest -- an A3S at 49.5', 80m doublet, 40m sloper,
R7000.
I refuse to believe that my modest SO2R configuration is somehow so
competitive that SO1R operators don't stand a chance and need to be moved
to another category.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 25 09:32:57 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
Message-ID:
<20020425083258.27251.h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Tree N6TR wrote:
> Anyone notice how there just aren't any real
> contests in April?
I thought the FQP happened in April. Maybe I'm
wrong... I should look it up somewhere.
Besides, maybe that's not a "real" contest...
OJ? ;-)
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>From n5nj at gte.net Thu Apr 25 11:24:57 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (Bob Naumann - N5NJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
References:
<20020425062328.27396.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <071a01c1ec6d$5c0b0120$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
Mike,
I think this recent thread is doing a great deal to clear up many
misconceptions about the log checking process and the UBN reports.
It seems the three main points that are misunderstood are that:
1) B means 'BAD QSO" and not necessarily a "bad" or non-existent callsign
2) Uniques DO NOT cost you points from your score.
3) If someone else logs your call incorrectly, they lose points - not you.
Regarding number 1, often a callsign is logged which is indeed a good
callsign - but it's marked B because that isn't who you worked!
73,
Bob N5NJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
To: <tonno.vahk@mail.ee>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
> Tonno,
>
> I, too, have had several correspondences with the CQWW
> committee and/or log checking folks. Each of the
> responses I received was courteous and enlightening.
>
> The more I learned (directly from them and not from
> speculation on the reflector), the more I realized
> these guys know what the hell they are doing. The
> techniques are logical and well constructed. And,
> might I add, apparently still very closely scrutinized
> by humans.
>
> It's only too bad that they haven't figured out a way
> to make a public document describing some of their
> techniques without giving away their, excuse the
> term, "secrets". They understandably want to avoid
> folks attempting to "wash" their logs based on the
> criteria.
>
> Mike N2MG
>
> On Wed, 24 April 2002, "Tonno Vahk" wrote
>
> >
> > Today I got an impressive letter from Dick Norton,
> N6AA, member of CQWW
> > Contest Committee. He clearly showed me that I was
> was wrong in my
> > assumptions about mistakes in log checking and all
> the decisions of the
> > Committee were VERY CLEARLY reasoned and VERY WELL
> analyzed.
> >
> > I want to apologize for any possible indirect
> accusations I made and for any
> > doubts I had in the accuracy of the log checking
> procedure. Iam more than
> > convinced now that this is an enormous job those guys
> are doing and I am
> > very impressed by the standards they have set and by
> the methods they use.
> > It goes far beyond what we see in UBN and NIL reports!
>
> ________________________________________________
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>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Thu Apr 25 11:10:49 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL.cc reverses policy
Message-ID: <017c01c1ec73$c413f140$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
April 24, 2002 -- eQSL.cc has removed its double blind requirement on the
eQSL inbox because the ARRL says that it will not accept its eQSLs for DXCC
awards and a large majority of their users wants things put back they way
they were. Read the complete announcement at
http://www.eqsl.org/qslcard/DXCCInfo.cfm
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Thu Apr 25 10:18:23 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Having the PC do all the work..
In-Reply-To: <00e301c1ec0d$f2970cc0$0201a8c0@yuri>
Message-ID: <20020425161823.53145.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com>
--- VA3UZ <va3uz@rac.ca> wrote: ..... it will be
enough to check our PC ..Or it will be enough to
push a BIG ENTER at the start of the
contest...(??) This is the future of contesting.
de k3ft (tongue firmly implanted into right
cheek)
Hit the 'big ENTER'.. let the PC do the work,
read the results at the end'..
This reminds me of a movie in the later 70's
entitled 'Colossus... The Forbin Project'.
73
Chuck K3FT
SO1R.. SO2R... the key.. after all is to
remember.. all the technology in the world CAN'T
beat someone who has experience, ability or a
great combination of both!
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Apr 25 17:59:25 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] e-QSL change of policy
Message-ID: <006b01c1ec72$52d67da0$891dfa43@computer>
Ted
As far as I know the only way eQSL will take files is in ADIF format. One
can also enter them one at at a time into the system on line.
GL and CU in next contest
Quack aka Rex K7QQ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tautvydas Misi?nas" <tautvydas@achema.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:40
Subject: [CQ-Contest] e-QSL change of policy
> I became e-QSL system user a while ago and it worked perfectly up to this
> major change done.Sorry,but now my inbox size reached maybe 500 QSO's and
I
> can do nothing:my attempts to upload ADIF files are vain-just very small
> files with less than 100 QSO's get through,larger do not!
> E-QSL page became extermely slow,maybe due to sharply increased
> attendance.This system needs radical upgrade to use it safely and
easily.DAT
> and DTA files should be accepted for sure.
> e-QSLing is our future definitely and system is in transition now .As
> financing to develope it is needed ,subsribtion system must be introduced.
> My appologies to the guys who are waiting my return e-QSL,maybe it will
> be possible one day...
> 73 ,Ted,LY2OX
>
>
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Apr 25 18:02:37 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <007201c1ec72$a31d0720$891dfa43@computer>
Quacks
OK but Gold nugget?????
----- Original Message -----
From: "K0LUZ" <k0luz@topsusa.com>
To: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 16:40
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
> GROWL!!!
>
> If you disconnect from the mailing list, that seems to drop the number of
> times you have to read it significantly. Otherwise, just endure like the
> rest of us and there might even be a gold nugget in there somewhere.
>
> GROWL!
>
> 73
> Red
> K0LUZ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> QUACK's
>
> Gosh I'm sure we had this same discussion Last year and The year before
> etc:
> How many times we gonna have to read this STUFF
> Nuff Said Already
> Rex
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Sutcliffe" <ums@nconnect.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 13:06
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>
> > Radio contesting is unfair. Someone with better antennas, radios,
> location,
> > etc. will always have an advantage over an equivalent operator with a
> > lesser station. That's life. Or, maybe it is just a natural part of a
> > competition that encourages innovation.
> >
> > The one thing about SO2R is that just writing a check and adding SO2R
> > capabilities to your station will not give you the automatic
improvement
> > that other equipment upgrades would. You have to put the effort in to
> learn
> > to do it effectively. IMHO, SO2R is the major change in contesting that
is
> > mostly based on operator skill.
> >
> > I think we should applaud those who put the effort in to operate SO2R
> > effectively. We should also applaud those who work to improve other
> > contesting skills like pulling weak ones out of the noise, better typing
> > skills, better pileup techniques, better run skills, better S&P skills,
> > etc. I don't see a whole lot of difference.
> >
> > 73 - Gary, W9XT (whose limited moves into SO2R have probably cost more
> > QSO's than they gained :-)
> >
> >
> > ____________
> > Gary Sutcliffe, W9XT Unified Microsystems
> > ums@nconnect.net PO Box 133
> > http://www.QTH.com/w9xt Slinger, WI 53086
> >
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>From k6ll at despammed.com Thu Apr 25 12:25:44 2002
From: k6ll@despammed.com (k6ll@despammed.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] consider this
Message-ID: <200204251625.LAA27938@despammed.com>
Recently, N6TR wrote:
I would like to point out that the CW Sprint lists the number of band
changes for the top ten stations. This easily shows who is using two
radios and how much they are using it.
Typically, one or two of the top ten are using one radio - with six or
less band changes. There are typically one or two stations up over 100
band changes in the same four hours.
--------------------------------
I think Tree has a good idea here
that should be expanded to other
contests.
The number of band changes can be
calculated easily from the
Cabrillo log by the scorers. It is a valuable
statistic, and should be published
in all contest results, especially
now that we are starting to see
Web versions of the results,
with fewer space limitations than
in printed magazines.
For the so2r folks, they can look
at the band change statistic and
compare themselves to other so2r
ops as a measure of effectiveness.
For the so1r folks, they can skip
through the so2r scores, which will
be very apparent from the band
changes, and look at their score
as compared with other so1r entries.
By the way, kudos to the ARRL for
their on-line results for the SS CW.
The database manipulation capability
is great! Now just add the band changes,
and we'll be in hog heaven.
Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
>From n5ia at zia-connection.com Thu Apr 25 10:19:39 2002
From: n5ia@zia-connection.com (Milt Jensen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
<000801c1ebcb$ea1026a0$13ed83d1@office> <008801c1ebfb$13dc2e00$0100a8c0@joe>
Message-ID: <002201c1ec75$0232d8a0$ca01060a@dvec.org>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly Taylor" <ve4xt@mts.net>
To: "Ford Peterson" <ford@cmgate.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
SNIP
> Now, creating an SO1R category that operators could voluntarily enter --
> assuming they are indeed using only one radio -- gives an out to people
who
> choose, for whatever reason, to compete at a different level while
> preserving the high standards of the main single op category. It's a
> win-win. People who feel cheated by SO2R can now compete amongst
like-minded
> individuals while those who want to measure themselves against the best
can
> continue to do so. I suspect the majority of ops would remain in the main
> category irrespective of how many radios they are running.
>
> Remember the category refers to single OPERATOR. Even if he has three
> radios, there's still just ONE operator.
This seems logical to me. This approach would be similar to what is now
done for the Field Day contest (err, Operating Event) where the QRP entries
are allowed to enter different categories (separate score listing) depending
on whether they have a transmitter power source from fossil fueled
mehcanical sources OR they go to the extra effort of planning and
implementation of wind/solar etc. sources of power and battery storage for
all of their TX/RX power requirements. There are no rewards other than the
accomplishment of the feat and the QST report of how your operation compared
to a similarly setup/powered station.
Mis dos centavos, de Milt, N5IA; leading a 4A solar powered QRP effort from
K7EAR at DM52 in AZ this year.
>From w9wi at w9wi.com Thu Apr 25 12:49:14 2002
From: w9wi@w9wi.com (Doug Smith W9WI)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider This
In-Reply-To: <200204251522.g3PFMj9F031838@contesting.com>; from
cq-contest-request@contesting.com on Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 11:22:45AM -0400
References: <200204251522.g3PFMj9F031838@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <20020425114914.D18628@w9wi.com>
> Although I may be wrong, I suspect, just like the
> difference in total score, the effect of SO2R on
> frequency occupation is less than some imagine.
*Something* has affected frequency occupation. It's most blatantly obvious
on 10 meters during CW and mixed-mode contests, when you have people CQing
as high as 28.250. Before SO2R, it was rare (at least in my neck of the
woods) to hear anybody above 28.100 except a Novice or two.
I suppose it's concievable increased activity in Eastern Europe and/or the
AM/SSB intruders are responsible for this. I doubt it - there aren't that
many of either.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
I fear K8MR is right. I've seen situations where I've gone 5-10 minutes
without a QSO in a domestic SSB contest because *everybody* was CQing on 75
- there were no "holes" for a new CQer - and after tuning the band over and
over, literally everybody CQing is a dupe. What's the answer?
- Keep listening to dupes hoping a hole opens up?
- Keep CQing on a dead 20, 40, or 160m band, knowing it could be 10-15
minutes before you get any answers?
- Find a weak station and start CQing, knowing you'll be able to hear
callers through him?
- Start CQing on 75m 3 hours before sunset to ensure you'll have a frequency
when 40 dies?
- Switch to 2m and start DXing on 146.52?
I contest for fun, and #5 is the only one that sounds like fun to me...
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com
>From n7df at zianet.com Sat Apr 27 11:52:57 2002
From: n7df@zianet.com (Larry N7DF)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eyestrain/neckstrain - avoiding of
Message-ID: <002501c1ee0c$2c7b9780$2a7df3d8@n7df>
A study of computer related job stress was done by some Federal Agency several
years back. I think it was NIH, but I'm not sure.
A major part of the eye strain problem was found to be related to spasms in the
neck muscles from holding the head in the wrong position. Generally the
monitor screen should be slightly below eye level. For each person the exact
preferred position can be determined by the following exercise.
While sitting in the chair and position you will normally use while using the
computer, look into an open space about ten feet away.
Hold your right hand, palm towards you at arms length and slowly move it up and
down. You will notice that there is one location where it seems to suddenly
appear the clearest.
Repeat with your left hand. You will probably notice that the clearest
position will be somewhat lower than for the right hand.
Now do this with both hands at once. This should clearly show the difference
in preferred location for each hand.
Set your computer monitor with the bottom of the screen at the location for the
lower hand.
This should reduce the neck strain significantly.
Another thing you can do is get a soft cervical collar from your local drug
store and wear it when you are at the computer for a long period of time.
73
Larry
N7DF
Remember:
E=IR is not just a good idea.
IT'S THE LAW!
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 10:38:38 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251638.g3PGccC30719@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: mqp@contesting.com
Mail logs to:
Mad River Radio Club
c/o Dave Pruett
2727 Harris Road
Ypsilanti, MI 48198
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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K8AA 302 560 102 89 11 222,324
W8SH 205 356 69 91 11 122,560 MSU Amateur Radio Cl
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K8MR 655 199 63 54 12 176,553 MRRC
WT9U/M 530 123 58 48 11 124,974 SMC
AA8U 420 74 36 48 12 41,496 MRRC
K5OT/M 205 77 51 32 40,421 SMC
K8IR 242 42 55 21 11 39,976 M&MARC
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N8KR 112 670 60 113 12 154,662 MRRC
N9RV 145 89 58 37 6 36,005 SMC
AD8J 103 77 47 36 9 23,489 NCC
K4BAI 110 38 56 23 20,382 SECC
K8DX 76 95 77 0 4 19,019 MRRC
N8II 52 59 27 31 5 9,454 PVRC
VE7FO 38 16 25 12 5 3,404
W4SAA/4(@W1CW) 45 0 30 0 3 2,700 FCG
KW8W 0 50 0 24 2 1,200 MRRC
K1KI 16 0 14 0 1 448 YCCC
VK2CZ 0 1 0 1 1
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N8TC 285 271 81 81 12 136,242 EMARC
K8KHZ 74 311 39 90 12 59,211 Hazel Park ARC
K8SIA 185 120 56 51 7 52,430 MRRC
N8EA 299 0 84 0 50,232 MRRC
K7SV 166 100 64 42 11 45,792 PVRC
AD1C 157 49 72 31 10 37,389 YCCC
W8EDU(AF8A) 136 76 83 20 11 35,844 OkDX
W8RU 173 22 64 15 4 29,072 MRRC
NY1S 118 45 63 23 11 24,116
KN4Y 150 0 73 0 12 21,900 FCG
K8GL 104 0 35 0 3 11,330 MRRC
N2CU 63 37 30 19 3 7,987 Western NY DX Assn
NF4A 52 32 32 15 6,392 FCG
K9NW 64 0 41 0 4 5,248 Sultans of Shwing
WN6K 40 25 22 14 3,780 SCCC
NO5W 39 0 30 0 4 2,340
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N9NE/8 201 67 0 0 12 54,873 Fond du Lac ARC
K3WW 82 19 47 14 6 11,163 FRC
Operators:
K8AA K8AA,KB8ECG,NU8Z
K8IR K8IR,KG8CX
K8MR K8MR,W8DRZ
W8SH K8MAS,KB8RWQ,KB8ZGL,KB8ZQZ,KC8JUZ,KC8PUN,KT8X,
W8ELS
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 10:40:02 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Ontario QSO Party - Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251640.g3PGe2U30730@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Ontario QSO Party - Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve3sre@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Ontario QSO Party
Ontario DX Assoc
PO Box 161 Station A
Willowdale, Ontario M2N 5S8
Canada
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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VE3BUC 3 195 104 24,675
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VE3STT 102 231 152 87,248
VE3MQW 77 158 158 79,632
VA3WN 62 152 125 10 41,000
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VE3KZ 134 295 192 20 175,872
VA3TTT 118 113 114 17 45,578 U-VE Contest Club
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3OZO,VE3RZ,
VE3VMO
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 10:59:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251659.g3PGxZl30743@localhost.localdomain>
2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: jidx-hfcw@ne.nal.go.jp
Mail logs to:
JIDX HFCW Contest
c/o Five-Nine Magazine
PO Box 59
Kamata, Tokyo 144
Japan
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
GM4YXI 520 127 14 82,931 North of Scotland Co
ES5QX 511 123 80,688
AE0Q(@K0HM) 452 115 64,400 Grand Mesa
N0AC(@N0NI) 427 110 30 54,780
F5IN 327 107 40,232
OH1F(OH1NOA) 326 100 12 36,100 CCF
N2ED 255 96 7 29,184 FRC
K3WW 224 81 6 21,060 FRC
N6ZZ 192 82 20,910 SCCC
N9RV 161 70 3 15,190 SMC
N6HC 143 72 4 13,320 SCCC
VE7FO 120 70 9 10,780
N4GG 43 34 4 1,972 PVRC
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HB9ARF 259 106 37,630
WN6K 238 88 21 30,008 SCCC
SV1CIB 109 66 9,174
VE3BUC 86 47 4 4,042
WA6BOB 35 33 2 1,155
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OM5AW 466 44 10 20,504
NT6K 127 41 4 10,414 NCCC
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UT7QF 392 46 25 17,986 UCC
N1XS(@KB1H) 101 31 2 3,131 YCCC
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I2WIJ 67 32 3 2,144 Marconi Contest Club
>From loumecseri at bestnetpc.com Thu Apr 25 14:17:32 2002
From: loumecseri@bestnetpc.com (Lou Mecseri)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020425090623.00c10c30@gsvaresm01.er.usgs.gov>
Message-ID: <005e01c1ec7d$1705ae80$bb4ad0d1@n9a1i1>
Yes, FQP is this weekend, Saturday and Sunday.
PLEASE work us.
73s
Lou KE1F
----- Original Message -----
From: John Unger <w4au@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
: Tree -
:
: I think the Florida QSO Party is coming up sometime soon, but that usually
conflicts with Dayton, doesn't it? Also I may be confused after reading all
the messages on this reflector, but I believe that the new FQP rules do not
allow SO2R stations this year unless they append their calls with /SO2R.
:
: 73 - John, W4AU
:
:
: At 12:56 4/24/02 -0700, you wrote:
:
: >Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
: >
: >We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
: >
: >But - with the exception of the Poisson D'Avril contest on the
: >first, there just doesn't seem to be much going on.
: >
: >It really makes it hard for us two radio guys to keep our skills
: >in shape.
: >
: >At any rate - if anyone does know of any contests coming up this
: >weekend, that might not be well publicized, please let me know.
: >Maybe the Podunk Stew Perry Kid's QSO Party Sprint or something...
: >
: >73 Tree N6TR
: >tree@kkn.net
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>From otterstad at enter.vg Thu Apr 25 20:25:10 2002
From: otterstad@enter.vg (otterstad@enter.vg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Praha (OK)
In-Reply-To: <E170bi2-0009TM-00@f4.mail.ru>
References: <E170bi2-0009TM-00@f4.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <20020425172510.64318118AC@mail1.vg.eunet.no>
Quoting Andrey Karpov <rv1aw@inbox.ru>:
> I'm going to be in Praha with wife from 28th April
until 5th May for rest.
> We'll be staying in "CHODSKA" hotel. I'd love to
get together with other
> contesters in the area. If you're interested in
gathering, please drop me a
> mail.
Go to OK1RR's web site for more info
73
Rag w6/la5he
>
>
> 73! Andrei Karpov RV1AW & RU1A
>
>
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 11:31:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251731.g3PHVQZ30771@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
WX5S(@W6YX) 4553 1078 48 10,743,348 NCCC
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
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NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
NZ1U(@KB1H) 2207 896 34 5,264,896 YCCC
NT6K 2254 845 48 4,173,455 NCCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
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WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
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K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
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K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
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KD2HE 176 152 63,080
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K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
N4WSM 260 209 146,091 TCG
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N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
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N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
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K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
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NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
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W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
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KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K6LRN 333 255 208,640 NCCC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
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K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
K8GL 570 358 12 541,654 MRRC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
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USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
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USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
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USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
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USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
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USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
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USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
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USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
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USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
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USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
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USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
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USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ1U KB1DFB,KB1H,N1XS
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
YW4M DL2GG,YV2IF,YV3AZC,YV4FZM,YV4GLD,YV4GME,YV4YC,
YV5AMH,YV5EED,YV5IQJ,YV5IVB,YV5LMW
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 11:33:34 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251733.g3PHXYt30780@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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Non-USA M/M HP
YW4M 9455 1415 48 45,210,665
OT2A 9687 1523 37,950,114
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
VE7SCC 2120 0 48 4,406,904 Coquitlam Amateur Ra
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Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
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Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
P40V 6610 1251 48 25,617,978 NCCC
3V8BB 5868 1238 48 23,900,828 YU CC
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCF
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
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Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
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Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20h 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
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Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
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Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
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Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
VE7UQ 689 391 676,821
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
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Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCF
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
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Non-USA SOAB LP
VP5V(W5AO) 4333 990 36 10,409,850 OkDX
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 542 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
ZD9IR 756 387 15 877,716
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
VE5SF 628 366 9 543,510
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
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Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
TM4K(F5BEG) 1040 547 1,346,714
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCF
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Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
Z33AA 928 501 1,122,240
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
VK4NEF 606 390 672,360
VE1ASJ 591 378 26 556,794
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
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Non-USA SOSB15 HP
ZF2AH(W6VNR@EART 2689 871 30 5,654,532
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
UT7QF 2334 929 35 4,825,226 UCC
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCF
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
YT1RA 1227 588 36 1,535,268 YU CC
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
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Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
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Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14.4 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
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Non-USA SOSB160 LP
4N1A(YU1EA) 154 121 38,115
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Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCF
YT9X(YZ1KA) 1346 629 36 1,697,042 YU CC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
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Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
PJ2H(W0CG) 1098 500 21 3,226,000 Caribbean Contesting
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
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Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
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Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
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Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ1U KB1DFB,KB1H,N1XS
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
YW4M DL2GG,YV2IF,YV3AZC,YV4FZM,YV4GLD,YV4GME,YV4YC,
YV5AMH,YV5EED,YV5IQJ,YV5IVB,YV5LMW
>From zf2nt at candw.ky Thu Apr 25 18:57:11 2002
From: zf2nt@candw.ky (Bruce B. Sawyer)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Message-ID: <000d01c1ec82$a3cfe920$2d75883f@ibm1050257>
>Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be definitely
>out of it.
>Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
>
>73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited to
N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key (or
RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage that
it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us put
our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its knees!
CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 15:17:03 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
Message-ID: <20020425181830.YXOZ18777.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/25/02 9:23 AM, Mike Gilmer - N2MG at n2mg@contesting.com wrote:
>The more I learned (directly from them and not from
>speculation on the reflector), the more I realized
>these guys know what the hell they are doing. The
>techniques are logical and well constructed. And,
>might I add, apparently still very closely scrutinized
>by humans.
Hear, hear! I'll second this. That's been my impression. The more I
learned abotu what the contest judges were doing, the more impressed I
was that they'd covered all the angles.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Thu Apr 25 15:54:10 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (James Jarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] neckstrain/eyestrain/fatigue
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEMKDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
W2OX observed the growing number of bifocals in use
among contesters. Even continuous gradient lenses
require a certain head position for a particular
focal length. The resulting neck strain probably
also translates into strain along the spinal column.
Alex recommends a full set of 'computer glasses' for
contesting. Focal length is roughly arms length...or
average distance to your equipment from your average
chair position. This will give you maximum posture
flexibility, and minimize the strain.
I also recommend bowflex training with rowing,
as a means to strengthen the neck, back and abdominal
muscles. The result of even moderate, repeated exercise,
is a definite improvement in ability to sit for long
periods.
N2EA
>From thompson at mindspring.com Thu Apr 25 17:02:54 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
<E170SrW-0004AP-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
<002d01c1ec50$f817c250$20996c40@gq7mb01>
Message-ID: <007001c1ec94$30c64660$3c3445cf@default>
Barry is an MD with a speciality not a eye checker technician.
73 Dave K4JRB
> An opthalmologist! And here I thought you were a real doctor....
>
> Denny - GP for a quarter century...
>
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 21:17:13 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <008801c1ebfb$13dc2e00$0100a8c0@joe>
Message-ID: <000201c1ec96$307925e0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
>
> Comparing SO2R and assisted is not a fair analogy. Packet requires no
> skill,
> involves the assistance of others and makes mult hunting the
equivalent of
> shooting fish in a barrel.
Of course it takes skill, otherwise the assisted ops and all the multi
ops would have many more multipliers than unassisted. It takes lots of
skill to know when to go after spots and when to ignore them, to grab
them in between cq's without losing a run, practice using the second vfo
if your radio is so equipped to tune them in and grab them, etc.
unskilled ops at a m/m miss many spotted mults because they don't know
how to properly grab them. Even worse are ops that are distracted and
let the run rate go down by spending too much time in pileups at the
wrong time in the contest.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Thu Apr 25 17:45:35 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <200204252015.g3PKFf9F009831@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <009901c1ec9a$55051640$03010a0a@office1>
OK, so let me see if I've got this straight:
The packet cluster system was originally constructed for use by contesters
during contests. It was most heavily used during the Big Six contest
weekends (ARRL DX, CQ WPX, CQ WW CW & Phone) and most of the other majors
(ARRL 10M, ARRL 160, IARU, Ca QS0, Pa QSO, etc.)
To keep it active, DX'ers were encouraged to use it during other times with
the proviso that they vacate the cluster during contest weekends. To the
point that, for example, some poor schmuck who doesn't know this, who posts
a CW DX spot during a Major phone weekend will get yelled at or even locked
out for the weekend.
Now we have a proposal that to discourage packet cheats -- that is, those
who use the cluster in an unethical manners and/or in contrast to the posted
rules of the contests -- we flood the packet cluster with so many spots as
to force the system to break down and then be useful to no one. That or ban
use of the cluster altogether. All to force the "packet" guys to shut down
the cluster system that was originally set up, for better or worse, for use
by contesters during contests.
Am I missing something, or has this reached a new point of absurdity?
73, ron wn3vaw
"There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
probably."
--John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
From: "Bruce B. Sawyer" <zf2nt@candw.ky>
To: <va3uz@rac.ca>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
>Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be definitely
>out of it.
>Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
>
>73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited to
N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key (or
RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage that
it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us put
our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its knees!
CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
>From w7zr at citlink.net Thu Apr 25 16:10:07 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
References: <007101c1eb8d$86131c40$0100a8c0@joe>
Message-ID: <002f01c1eca5$fcf506c0$35d1fea9@N1>
Good, I accomplished what I started out to do and that is to get people to
think about this subject (SO2R).
While I do not want to get embroiled in attacks and a lot of specifics I
will try to make a couple of points of clarification from my point of view.
First, let me again state this was not a statistical analysis. Anyone could
see that in the initial post I referenced my score and one other station in
my class for one contest. Hardly suggested that it was a "study" or an
"analysis". The information posted was the "data" at hand and it really was
not the sum total of the point of view. I believe several of the
suggestions made regarding a good future comparison of SO2R vs SO1R bear
review by the contest folks. What could be wrong with that?
While I have posted in the past on this subject and sometimes jokingly have
suggested many categories so "everyone" gets an award, that is not my goal.
I feel that SO2R vs SO1R is like having a race
between a Corvette and a Corvair. (Now please don't start a thread on car
comparisons). Those that think there is no advantage to running SO2R then
why do they do it? Most who do it are really first class contest operators
anyway. They do it to increase their score. They do it to advance
techniques. Then why was the technique of using packet radio swiftly put in
to a separate class? Someone suggested running packet spots takes no skill.
I beg to differ. To take full advantage of packet spotting in the assisted
category does require a bit of skill, coordination, timing and
understanding. Just about the same skills and equipment necessary for SO2R.
So why is one mode a category by itself and not the other?
Those who have said it is not a money issue. I can agree with that. There
are many ways to set up the station for SO2R without spending megabucks.
That is not my point. I could put $100K into my Corvair and it is still a
Corvair. I just feel in the spirit of competition, of trying to get more
operators
involved contesting, we need to have limited but fair classifications so
that
those who "need" to compete for the "prize" can do so on as level a playing
field as possible. For the rest of us, we can just have fun.
Oh yes, it was pointed out that there are so many other factors as to why I
was "womped". Very true. Some of the suggested differences were: It was
unfair to compare East Coast stations to West Coast stations (Whoa, I don't
think we want to get that one started); the operator for the station I
posted is "That Good" ( I stated in the original post that I take nothing
away from the other operator, a great contestor); that the soil conductivity
was different in Virginia than Arizona (Great idea, I think we should have
to submit the results of lab tests at each station and classify them by soil
conductivity). However, I was not just
writing about my station and my class but all others who are running SO1R in
an SO2R class. It still is amazing to me how many private emails I got in
support of the idea but how few were posted. Maybe some are intimidated but
still support the proposal.
Meanwhile I just will continue to try and stir
some thought on the subject.
>From N5RP at pdq.net Thu Apr 25 18:18:48 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] neckstrain/eyestrain/fatigue
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEMKDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020425171709.00b7f7a8@pop.pdq.net>
At 14:54 4/25/2002 -0400, James Jarvis wrote:
>I also recommend bowflex training with rowing,
>as a means to strengthen the neck, back and abdominal
>muscles.
====================>
I do elbowflex curls and my stomach seems to get bigger.
What am I doing wrong?
Do I need heavier bottles?
A Proper UK pint of 20 oz?
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Thu Apr 25 17:09:42 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <000d01c1ec82$a3cfe920$2d75883f@ibm1050257>
Message-ID: <004201c1ecae$49e69f40$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Bruce, I don't think that the intent was to bring the cluster system to its
knees. Hopefully there would be adequate preparation for this to be
effective; heaven knows the internet itself will be quite able to stand
up to the pressure -- it would only be the servers of the spotting
networks themselves that would be heavily stressed.
This would completely remove the "cheating" element from the self-
spotting act, while at the same time it would increase the usefulness
of the spotting system. Imagine -- the spotting networks would
provide 100% coverage of all CQ's, spreading the impact of new
spots to every CQ on the band... No more big packet pileups.
Instantaneously updated bandmaps that are never out of date. No
need for anyone to provide any spots of stations thay've just worked.
Your own personal approach to filtering spots -- spots no longer
filtered by your competitor!
No, although there would be much more server traffic, the server
traffic isn't the drawback to this idea. It would place a 100%
requirement on all entrants (even those who are located in quite
remote places where there is no internet service available at
all) to connect to the internet and use computers to do all of their
logging. It would put the Heathkit HW-8 and pencil gang
completely out of business competitively, and force everyone to
modern equipment and modern operating practices.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce B. Sawyer" <zf2nt@candw.ky>
To: <va3uz@rac.ca>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:57
Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
> >Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be
definitely
> >out of it.
> >Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
> >
> >73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
>
> I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited to
> N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
> EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key
(or
> RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage
that
> it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
> convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us put
> our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its
knees!
>
> CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>From K4tmc at aol.com Thu Apr 25 20:17:51 2002
From: K4tmc@aol.com (K4tmc@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] May CQ arrives
Message-ID: <68.1f23fac2.29f9e89f@aol.com>
A stop by the PO box this morning resulted in the latest issue of CQ.
Front cover photo of N0GQ operating backpack-mobile in the Rockies with
details of his station inside. This month's issue is titled "Mobile Special!"
Contest related items:
Results - 2001 CQ WW RTTY DX Contest
Contesting - The Changing Face of Multi-Operator Contesting
Other interesting items:
Zero Bias (editorial) - Wood, Kids, and Radio
A Ham Radio "Voyage of Discovery" (a recreation of Lewis and Clark's trip)
County Hunting on the Road (and a County-Hunting primer)
The Fifth Annual CQ National Foxhunting Weekend
Reader Survey - ethics of ham radio and results of survey on refarming Novice
bands
World of Ideas - Mobiling 2002, More Ideas and New Goodies
Radio Classics - Mobile Operation in the '50s
What's New - Goodies Galore
Manufacturer Previews at Charlotte Hamfest (new items from Ten-Tec, Heil, and
Icom)
How It Works - Solar Power, The Easy Way
DX - Operating Procedures
VHF Plus - Mobile Hamming, A Driving Distraction?
Propagation - What is a CME? (coronal mass ejection)
Ads:
Heil Sound has full-page ad featuring the Pro-Set Plus and Traveler headsets,
and Classic, ICM, and Goldline microphones.
And more?
Don't forget the Florida QSO Party this weekend!!! (Jim, send the check to my
callbook address)
73 & High Rates,
Henry Pollock - K4TMC
Raleigh, NC
>From w2up at mindspring.com Fri Apr 26 02:00:59 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <007001c1ec94$30c64660$3c3445cf@default>
Message-ID: <3CC8A6CB.17059.30549E7@localhost>
Dave,
Thanks for your support. Actually, I think Denny was being a bit tongue
in cheek with his comment. I did reply privately to him that it didn't
surprise me he was a GP, as he couldn't even spell ophthalmologist
correctly :.)
Barry W2UP
On 25 Apr 2002 David L. Thompson wrote:
> Barry is an MD with a speciality not a eye checker technician.
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
> > An opthalmologist! And here I thought you were a real doctor....
> >
> > Denny - GP for a quarter century...
> >
>
>
>
--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Thu Apr 25 21:04:23 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
References: <007101c1eb8d$86131c40$0100a8c0@joe>
<002f01c1eca5$fcf506c0$35d1fea9@N1>
Message-ID: <066f01c1eccf$11d0b340$ede3c23f@KR6X.ORG>
Richard Zalewski <w7zr@citlink.net> wrote:
> Good, I accomplished what I started out to do and that is to get
people to
> think about this subject (SO2R).
Truly, I'd have to respond that you did not attain your goal. What
you did
was to reopen a stale topic and give a few of us a chance to get in
some
zingers. The vast majority of respondents posted opinions in
opposition to
the views you presented. Most were taken aback by your pronouncement
that the numeric comparison between your score and a leading scorer
could be attributed primarily to your own personal choice of issues
(SO2R).
Most of the respondents who seemed to agree with you also seemed to
be at a loss when presenting their views. One made comparisons
clearly
showing that he thought all SO2R competitors routinely called CQ on
two bands simultaneously. Others vastly overestimated the score
advantage that is attained through SO2R or suggested flawed
statistical
methods that they thought we should use to evaluate the value of SO2R
to the competitor. Clearly each of them believed they were presenting
valid arguments, even though their arguments wouldn't stand up under
the weight of examination.
Out of the discussion, one quite interesting suggestion surfaced:
Rather than considering a column showing SO1R or SO2R as a statistic,
the suggestion that the number of bandchanges in the log be printed
was
interesting, to me at least.
Those of us who wish to interpret this as an indicator of possible
SO2R
operation could do so -- and your own personal position would be
buoyed. Those of us who wish to interpret this as an indication of
"hustle" can do so. And those of us who object to the concept of
stigmatizing the use of two rigs with a label (TLA) and a column
(SO2R or SO1R) in the magazines that would provide fuel for
further attacks on everything that represents excellence in contest
operating wouldn't be offended. These kinds of numbers would be
interesting totop competitors when reading the contest results.
But in the final analysis, the majority of respondents simply said
that
this topic is stale, and they tire from hearing about it. I, for one,
disagree. I tend to believe that even a stale topic is worth the
effort
of fighting through dozens of boring, ill tempered, poorly presented
opinions as long as some comedian can push a good joke into the
thread somewhere along the way.
KR6X
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
To: "cq-contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
> Good, I accomplished what I started out to do and that is to get
people to
> think about this subject (SO2R).
>
> While I do not want to get embroiled in attacks and a lot of
specifics I
> will try to make a couple of points of clarification from my point
of view.
>
> First, let me again state this was not a statistical analysis.
Anyone could
> see that in the initial post I referenced my score and one other
station in
> my class for one contest. Hardly suggested that it was a "study" or
an
> "analysis". The information posted was the "data" at hand and it
really was
> not the sum total of the point of view. I believe several of the
> suggestions made regarding a good future comparison of SO2R vs SO1R
bear
> review by the contest folks. What could be wrong with that?
>
> While I have posted in the past on this subject and sometimes
jokingly have
> suggested many categories so "everyone" gets an award, that is not
my goal.
> I feel that SO2R vs SO1R is like having a race
> between a Corvette and a Corvair. (Now please don't start a thread
on car
> comparisons). Those that think there is no advantage to running
SO2R then
> why do they do it? Most who do it are really first class contest
operators
> anyway. They do it to increase their score. They do it to advance
> techniques. Then why was the technique of using packet radio
swiftly put in
> to a separate class? Someone suggested running packet spots takes
no skill.
> I beg to differ. To take full advantage of packet spotting in the
assisted
> category does require a bit of skill, coordination, timing and
> understanding. Just about the same skills and equipment necessary
for SO2R.
> So why is one mode a category by itself and not the other?
>
> Those who have said it is not a money issue. I can agree with that.
There
> are many ways to set up the station for SO2R without spending
megabucks.
> That is not my point. I could put $100K into my Corvair and it is
still a
> Corvair. I just feel in the spirit of competition, of trying to
get more
> operators
> involved contesting, we need to have limited but fair
classifications so
> that
> those who "need" to compete for the "prize" can do so on as level a
playing
> field as possible. For the rest of us, we can just have fun.
>
> Oh yes, it was pointed out that there are so many other factors as
to why I
> was "womped". Very true. Some of the suggested differences were: It
was
> unfair to compare East Coast stations to West Coast stations (Whoa,
I don't
> think we want to get that one started); the operator for the station
I
> posted is "That Good" ( I stated in the original post that I take
nothing
> away from the other operator, a great contestor); that the soil
conductivity
> was different in Virginia than Arizona (Great idea, I think we
should have
> to submit the results of lab tests at each station and classify them
by soil
> conductivity). However, I was not just
> writing about my station and my class but all others who are running
SO1R in
> an SO2R class. It still is amazing to me how many private emails I
got in
> support of the idea but how few were posted. Maybe some are
intimidated but
> still support the proposal.
>
> Meanwhile I just will continue to try and stir
> some thought on the subject.
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From harri.mantila at nokia.com Fri Apr 26 13:50:47 2002
From: harri.mantila@nokia.com (harri.mantila@nokia.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Portugal de OH6YF
Message-ID: <A242AFEC69697D40B6094A94B2C192AA096192@esebe011.NOE.Nokia.com>
Hello!
I'll be visiting Lisbon from the 2nd to the 4th of May 2002.
It would be nice to meet some HAMs while I am there.
QRZ?
73,
Harry OH6YF
___________________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH?MYF-M?BYF
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
Tel: +358-50-5472478
>From n2mg at contesting.com Fri Apr 26 05:14:20 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
Message-ID:
<20020426041421.7091.h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Thu, 25 April 2002, "Richard Zalewski" wrote
> Those that think there is no advantage to running
> SO2R then why do they do it?
Who ever said this?
> Most who do it are really first class contest
> operators anyway. They do it to increase their
> score. They do it to advance techniques. Then why
> was the technique of using packet radio swiftly put
> in to a separate class?
Why does the analogy of packet use and SO2R keep coming
up? I see absolutely no connection (other than the
attempts by those who don't use them to want to
separate themselves from those that do).
The primary (potential) advantage of packet comes from
other operators' efforts. Use of packet, in the past,
forced single operators (who didn't want to cheat) to
claim Multi-Multi. Creating a category for assisted
operation allowed single operators to not have to claim
multi-operator. The key word is OPERATOR.
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Fri Apr 26 12:04:32 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Absurdity...
Message-ID: <1020326110405.LAA24842@gate.iterated.com>
On 4/25/02 4:45 PM, Ron Notarius WN3VAW at wn3vaw@fyi.net wrote:
>Am I missing something, or has this reached a new point of absurdity?
Hey, in contesting, we're pushing the limits of absurdity all the time!
--
(During the last NAQP, my wife remarked to my daughters that I was
involved in a "QSO Party" downstairs. My girls picked up on the word
"party" and asked if they could go. So, they came down to the shack for a
visit. A few minutes later, they came back upstairs. "Mama, how can daddy
be at a party? He's just sitting down there all by himself....")
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From n4vhk at summitschool.com Fri Apr 26 13:19:10 2002
From: n4vhk@summitschool.com (Henry Heidtmann)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NC QSO Party results are posted!
Message-ID: <3CC97DFE.7CC65A6@summitschool.com>
The 2002 NC QSO Party results have been posted at the Forsyth Amateur
Radio Club website.
http://www.w4nc.org
Thanks for everyone's participation- we hope to see you next year!
Plaques and certifcates will be out by the middle of May!
See you all at Dayton-
73,
Henry Heidtmann, N4VHK
NC QSO Party Chair
Winston-Salem, NC
>From trogo at telegraphy.com Fri Apr 26 10:25:18 2002
From: trogo@telegraphy.com (Tony Rogozinski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dayton Ticket
Message-ID: <025d01c1ed3e$f4a39100$012cfea9@ph.cox.net>
I ended up with an extra $17 admission ticket - will sell it for $14 plus an
SASE -
beat the crowd - don't stand in line.
Tony Rogozinski N7BG
6625 West Pershing Avenue
Glendale AZ 85304
"I collect telegraph keys and most anything
related to telegraphy especially old or unusual
bugs (semi automatic keys). Please email or
call toll free 888-848-1572 if you have anything
to sell or trade!"
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Fri Apr 26 13:43:13 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Tomorrow is the Florida QSO Party!
Message-ID: <036701c1ed41$751126c0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
K4TMC wrote:
Don't forget the Florida QSO Party this weekend!!! (Jim, send the check to my
callbook address)
....I will have a check cut for you, 'TMC.....honest!
CQ-Contest robot subscribers will be pleased to learn that after tomorrow I
will once again crawl into my hole for another 11 months...
I appreciate the fact that most of the readership of the various reflectors
understands I am merely promoting an amateur radio activity that our club
sponsors. I try to do it in a lighthearted fashion to make it a little more
palatable.
There is one group I appear to have accidentally offended this year with my
postings and I have reassured one of their senior members, and asked that he
inform them, that this was not my intent. If you feel I have stepped on your
toes please accept my apologies.
The Florida QSO Party has been blessed with great participation the past few
years since it was taken over by the Florida Contest Group, and we take pride
in routinely activating all 67 of Florida's counties my employing contesters to
mobile between the less activated ones.
Why do contesters do this - fun. How do contesters have fun - running
stations....your help in allowing us to have fun this weekend would be
appreciated...we will be waiting for you as we cross the county lines...the
"fresh meat" pileups are a blast - hope to see you in there!
FQP details/records/results/downloads adn more can be found at our world class
website (tnx WD4AHZ) it is at:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
[note that the qsl.net server is having problems today but should be up shortly]
ThE PARTY starts tomorrow at noon Eastern time...
Thanks again,
Jim, K4OJ
Florida Contest Group
Sponsors: The Florida QSO Party
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Apr 26 14:20:44 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <200204261604.g3QG4f9F026749@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <030101c1ed48$fa19af20$03010a0a@office1>
So now the solution to stopping cluster cheats is to force everyone to use
the cluster and to effectively discourage or ban those who don't from
participating in the contest? In other words, to stop the cheats we ban the
operators who can not possible have been cheating?
I was wrong before. THIS is the latest height in absurdity.
73, ron wn3vaw
"There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
probably."
--John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Bruce, I don't think that the intent was to bring the cluster system to its
knees. Hopefully there would be adequate preparation for this to be
effective; heaven knows the internet itself will be quite able to stand
up to the pressure -- it would only be the servers of the spotting
networks themselves that would be heavily stressed.
This would completely remove the "cheating" element from the self-
spotting act, while at the same time it would increase the usefulness
of the spotting system. Imagine -- the spotting networks would
provide 100% coverage of all CQ's, spreading the impact of new
spots to every CQ on the band... No more big packet pileups.
Instantaneously updated bandmaps that are never out of date. No
need for anyone to provide any spots of stations thay've just worked.
Your own personal approach to filtering spots -- spots no longer
filtered by your competitor!
No, although there would be much more server traffic, the server
traffic isn't the drawback to this idea. It would place a 100%
requirement on all entrants (even those who are located in quite
remote places where there is no internet service available at
all) to connect to the internet and use computers to do all of their
logging. It would put the Heathkit HW-8 and pencil gang
completely out of business competitively, and force everyone to
modern equipment and modern operating practices.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce B. Sawyer" <zf2nt@candw.ky>
To: <va3uz@rac.ca>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:57
Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
> >Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be
definitely
> >out of it.
> >Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
> >
> >73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
>
> I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited to
> N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
> EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key
(or
> RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage
that
> it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
> convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us put
> our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its
knees!
>
> CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From nat at ajheatwole.com Fri Apr 26 17:14:43 2002
From: nat@ajheatwole.com (Nat Heatwole)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The Purpose of Contest Categories
References: <007101c1eb8d$86131c40$0100a8c0@joe>
<002f01c1eca5$fcf506c0$35d1fea9@N1> <066f01c1eccf$11d0b340$ede3c23f@KR6X.ORG>
Message-ID: <006901c1ed5f$06f9e140$6ec214ac@guilford.edu>
I've been on this reflector a while now and I've noticed that the SO2R
debate tends to be cyclical. It starts when someone complains about SO2R
or SO2R operators, the new category debate starts up, the mud is slung,
and it ends when people get tired of the thread. I usually don't
participate in the SO2R debate but I think it's about time I said
something as I'm getting sick of the ignorance surrounding it.
I've come to realize after watching the hundreds of posts about SO2R on
the reflector over the years that a lot of people don't understand why
there are different categories in contests. There is a methodology to
it, believe it or not. Contest categories are intended for one or both
of the following reasons:
1. To distinguish between a different numbers of operators and/or
simultaneous transmissions (ie. M/S, M/2, M/M).
2. To correct for elements that will produce an INHERENT unfairness or
advantage.
Look around, all contests have this scheme to their categories. However,
many don't realize what an "inherent unfairness" is. Here's the
definition:
-INHERENT UNFAIRNESS (def): any advantage in a contest that is mutually
exclusive of operator skill and station location where the *mere
addition* of a particular element or aspect increases an operator's
score.
In other words, adding a component that *in and of itself* increases
your score is an inherent advantage. Components of this nature include
amplifiers, as turning on an amp gives one an inherent advantage even if
one's operator skill was to remain constant because amps give the
ability to break pileups more easily, it "opens" the band earlier, and
CQing becomes much easier. All of these will increase one's score
independently of one's operating skill and QTH.
If you have operator A and he turns on 1500w as opposed to previously
running 100w and his operator skills remains the same under both
scenarios his score will be inherently higher with 1500w because of the
above reasons. Therefore 1500w is an inherent advantage over 100w and
that is why power categories (QRP, LP, HP) exist.
Some have brought up the packet issue, the fact that there is a separate
category for this. This is necessary because of #1. Because more than
one operator is (indirectly) contributing to a station's score an
additional category is appropriate and necessary.
The SO2R category controversy is fueled by that fact that 1) many people
have never really operated SO2R and 2) many people don't understand how
SO2R works. It *DOES NOT* provide an inherent advantage. Actually, when
everyone tries SO2R there score go DOWN initially, some for long periods
of time. In other words, it's the antithesis of an inherent advantage;
it's an inherent disadvantage. And because only one operator and one
transmitted signal at any time is present there is no justification for
a new category. In order to profit from SO2R operating one must work at
it a LOT over many contests and over many years. In other words, they
must develop operating skill surrounding it; just adding another radio
has no inherent advantage.
If a new category were to be created for SO2R it would:
1. Discourage creativity and innovation in contesting.
2. Discourage operators from investing time, money, and effort in their
stations.
3. Discourage competition.
4. Discourage operators from advancing their operating skill.
Any one of those four (let alone ALL four at once) will kill contesting.
Yes SO2R is an advantage, just like operating skill is an advantage, but
it is an *acquired* advantage not an inherent advantage and therefore
not unfair to possess. Also, there's the question of how to define SO2R
as well as the onslaught of new categories if we were to separate SO2R
from SO1R. Take CQ WW for example. If we made SO2R a new category in CQ
WW there would be 42 new categories:
SO2R AB QRP
SO2R AB QRP (A)
SO2R AB LP
SO2R AB LP (A)
SO2R AB HP
SO2R AB HP (A)
SO2R 160m QRP
SO2R 160m QRP (A)
SO2R 160m LP
SO2R 160m LP (A)
SO2R 160m HP
SO2R 160m HP (A)
SO2R 80m QRP
SO2R 80m QRP (A)
SO2R 80m LP
SO2R 80m LP (A)
SO2R 80m HP
SO2R 80m HP (A)
SO2R 40m QRP
SO2R 40m QRP (A)
SO2R 40m LP
SO2R 40m LP (A)
SO2R 40m HP
SO2R 40m HP (A)
SO2R 20m QRP
SO2R 20m QRP (A)
SO2R 20m LP
SO2R 20m LP (A)
SO2R 20m HP
SO2R 20m HP (A)
SO2R 15m QRP
SO2R 15m QRP (A)
SO2R 15m LP
SO2R 15m LP (A)
SO2R 15m HP
SO2R 15m HP (A)
SO2R 10m QRP
SO2R 10m QRP (A)
SO2R 10m LP
SO2R 10m LP (A)
SO2R 10m HP
SO2R 10m HP (A)
You think CQ is slow at returning certificates and plaques now, just
imagine. And CQ WPX (for example) would be even worse as it includes
several categories not found in CQ WW, notably rookie (R), band
restricted (BR), and tribander-single element (TS). I don't have the
energy to type all of those new SO2R categories out and neither does CQ
(one reason why they haven't adopted a SO2R category).
And another thing. Any activity discouraging SO2R means that less people
will operate SO2R. And when less people operate SO2R that means
*EVERYONE'S* score goes down because less total QSO's will be made in
any given contest. That's just what we need in contesting, less Q's.
That's the problem that has nearly killed SS several times.
People who want a new class for SO2R don't understand SO2R and/or
they're confusing it's acquired advantage with an inherent advantage.
When you discourage innovation and skill, contesting ends. If you don't
like SO2R don't operate it. If you do not wish to advance your operating
skill through that avenue (like K3ZO), if instead you wish to acquire it
other ways that's great. But don't complain about others who chose to
acquire it that way and don't segregate these individuals into their own
category just because you don't like their (acquired) skill advantage.
KQ2M beats the *&%$ out of me in every contest due (in part) to his
excellent, highly refined operating skill of which SO2R is one and only
one component. Do I claim he has an advantage, ABSOLUTLY! But it's not
an unfair one, it took him years to acquire and he still claims to be in
the process of perfecting it. I'm happy for Bob. I don't wish him to be
in another class just because he undertakes ventures that increase his
operating skill. That's what radiosport is about and Bob is what all
contesters should strive to be.
If you like SO2R operate it. If you don't like SO2R don't operate it.
But if you chose not to operate it, don't claim it should have it's own
category because that's NOT WHY categories exist. Only when this is
understood will the cyclical SO2R debate finally end.
73, Nat, WZ3AR
<nat@ajheatwole.com>
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Fri Apr 26 16:52:09 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <200204261604.g3QG4f9F026749@contesting.com>
<030101c1ed48$fa19af20$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <019f01c1ed75$0042d120$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Right, an unfortunate side effect preventing the use of
what is effectively a great idea but for the side effect.
Sure would have cut down on those busted spots...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 10:20
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
> So now the solution to stopping cluster cheats is to force everyone to use
> the cluster and to effectively discourage or ban those who don't from
> participating in the contest? In other words, to stop the cheats we ban
the
> operators who can not possible have been cheating?
>
> I was wrong before. THIS is the latest height in absurdity.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
> probably."
> --John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
>
> Bruce, I don't think that the intent was to bring the cluster system to
its
> knees. Hopefully there would be adequate preparation for this to be
> effective; heaven knows the internet itself will be quite able to stand
> up to the pressure -- it would only be the servers of the spotting
> networks themselves that would be heavily stressed.
>
> This would completely remove the "cheating" element from the self-
> spotting act, while at the same time it would increase the usefulness
> of the spotting system. Imagine -- the spotting networks would
> provide 100% coverage of all CQ's, spreading the impact of new
> spots to every CQ on the band... No more big packet pileups.
> Instantaneously updated bandmaps that are never out of date. No
> need for anyone to provide any spots of stations thay've just worked.
> Your own personal approach to filtering spots -- spots no longer
> filtered by your competitor!
>
> No, although there would be much more server traffic, the server
> traffic isn't the drawback to this idea. It would place a 100%
> requirement on all entrants (even those who are located in quite
> remote places where there is no internet service available at
> all) to connect to the internet and use computers to do all of their
> logging. It would put the Heathkit HW-8 and pencil gang
> completely out of business competitively, and force everyone to
> modern equipment and modern operating practices.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce B. Sawyer" <zf2nt@candw.ky>
> To: <va3uz@rac.ca>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:57
> Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
>
>
> > >Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be
> definitely
> > >out of it.
> > >Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
> > >
> > >73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
> >
> > I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited
to
> > N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
> > EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key
> (or
> > RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage
> that
> > it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
> > convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us
put
> > our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its
> knees!
> >
> > CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From k1ea at contesting.com Fri Apr 26 19:57:32 2002
From: k1ea@contesting.com (K1EA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Free CT for New England Qso Party
Message-ID: <000201c1ed75$bfc638c0$c801010a@home.k1ea.com>
I have placed a free download of CT on www.k1ea.com for use in the New
England QSO Party.
This is the full CT, except it says registered to New England QSO Party.
I hope this helps participation.
73,
Ken K1EA
>From trogo at telegraphy.com Fri Apr 26 17:09:49 2002
From: trogo@telegraphy.com (Tony Rogozinski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dayton Ticket
Message-ID: <03c701c1ed77$76c68f60$012cfea9@ph.cox.net>
The ticket is sold.
"I collect telegraph keys and most anything
related to telegraphy especially old or unusual
bugs (semi automatic keys). Please email or
call toll free 888-848-1572 if you have anything
to sell or trade!"
>From w3cf at comcast.net Fri Apr 26 21:14:59 2002
From: w3cf@comcast.net (Doug Priest)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition in a box
Message-ID: <NFBBKEEFALNKFAKNGPCKGEMCCDAA.w3cf@comcast.net>
http://www.casesbypelican.com/
Just put IC-751a, MFJ Voice Keyer, Bencher Paddles, and Laptop computer in
the Pelican 1650 case.
I'm impressed. 69 pounds :-)
Water tight, air tight, corrosion proof protection for your DXpedition.
Unconditional lifetime guarantee......
It locks and rolls, too.....
73
Doug W3CF /V26DX
Doug Priest W3CF
Hatfield, Pa.
19440-3958
Doug@W3CF.com
www.w3cf.com
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Apr 26 21:31:31 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest related good deal...
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020426202716.05110ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
For those who are looking for good-quality shielded cable to connect band
decoders to radios and/or PCs, Radio Shack is currently running a 97 cent
sale on 30 feet (!) of double-shielded 4-conductor data/audio cable, stock
number 278-777. The local manager said it is a discontinued item. Package
says it is 4 26-gauge conductors, stranded, color coded, 100 % foil shield
with 75% braid overlay.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From al_lorona at agilent.com Fri Apr 26 19:34:32 2002
From: al_lorona@agilent.com (al_lorona@agilent.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
Message-ID: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Hi, Everybody,
I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a different check
than my correct check. On purpose. I think I used something like '55' in the
CW SS, and '00' in the phone SS. Why did I do this? I guess I thought it
would be cool to try out another number. Or to alleviate boredom. I don't
know.
I had talked it over with a friend before the contest and we came to the
conclusion that it would not be against the spirit of the rules to do so.
After all, the SS check is only a simulation of a real check anyway, which
of course is the word count of a message. And it's not the same as changing
your precedence or your section, which would have very serious consequences
for you and for others.
I suspect that some folks couldn't care less what check I sent, while others
may take exception to the practice. I want to hear all sides, because I'm
thinking of doing it again.
Regards,
Al W6LX
>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 27 03:09:23 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
References:
<20020426041421.7091.h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <3CC9FA43.2DE2DA54@harborside.com>
Mike Gilmer - N2MG wrote:
> Why does the analogy of packet use and SO2R keep coming
> up? I see absolutely no connection (other than the
> attempts by those who don't use them to want to
> separate themselves from those that do).
And the problems with this is????
Tom W7WHY
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Sat Apr 27 04:11:56 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?iso-8859-1?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
References: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Message-ID: <012801c1ed90$e9487d00$b810be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
From: <al_lorona@agilent.com>
>
> I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a different check
> than my correct check. On purpose. I think I used something like '55' in the
> CW SS, and '00' in the phone SS. Why did I do this? I guess I thought it
> would be cool to try out another number. Or to alleviate boredom. I don't
> know.
>
I looked in my checkbook, and every check has a different number.
Copy what I sent *YOU*, not what I send someone else last year.
73, de Hans, K0HB
>From k5zd at charter.net Sat Apr 27 04:12:48 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
In-Reply-To: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEGNDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Send anything you want! Just make sure you send the same thing to everyone
you work and that you get it right in your log submission to ARRL (you would
be surprised how often this doesn't happen).
The only people who will complain are those using databases from previous
years. They deserve to lose a QSO if they don't copy what you send...
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of
> al_lorona@agilent.com
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 00:35 AM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
>
>
>
> Hi, Everybody,
>
> I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a
> different check
> than my correct check. On purpose. I think I used something like
> '55' in the
> CW SS, and '00' in the phone SS. Why did I do this? I guess I thought it
> would be cool to try out another number. Or to alleviate boredom. I don't
> know.
>
> I had talked it over with a friend before the contest and we came to the
> conclusion that it would not be against the spirit of the rules to do so.
> After all, the SS check is only a simulation of a real check anyway, which
> of course is the word count of a message. And it's not the same
> as changing
> your precedence or your section, which would have very serious
> consequences
> for you and for others.
>
> I suspect that some folks couldn't care less what check I sent,
> while others
> may take exception to the practice. I want to hear all sides, because I'm
> thinking of doing it again.
>
> Regards,
>
> Al W6LX
>
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Sat Apr 27 01:08:12 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The Florida QSO Party Starts at Noon Eastern on Saturday!
Message-ID: <020c01c1eda1$260a2080$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
It is just rolling over to Saturday here in Tampa....so for one last time
before the fun begins in 12 hours at 1600Z just thought I would remind everyone
that:
The Florida QSO Party is 0 Days Away - see everyone in a few hours!
Details can be found at: http://www.qsl.net/fqp
Start time Saturday - Noon Eastern
Start time Sunday - 8:00 AM Eastern
Both days are ten hour operaitng windows...mobiles will be criss crossing the
state hitting all the counties - some of them many times - please join us for a
Party - Florida Style!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
Floirda Contest Group
(0ne of the ops in K4FCG Mobile)
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>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Sat Apr 27 00:11:53 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
In-Reply-To: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJEEMFECAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> I suspect that some folks couldn't care less what check I sent,
> while others
> may take exception to the practice. I want to hear all sides, because I'm
> thinking of doing it again.
>
Hey, Al, I'll copy as best I can whatever anyone sends me. It doesn't matter
what you sent last year or the year before. What matters is what you send
me now, that you report it as such, and that I copy it accurately in the
log.
It's between you and the contest sponsor to deal with the appropriateness of
changing your check.
73,
dale, kg5u
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sat Apr 27 12:09:28 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
In-Reply-To: <3CC9FA43.2DE2DA54@harborside.com>
Message-ID: <000201c1eddc$00004410$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
> > Why does the analogy of packet use and SO2R keep coming
> > up? I see absolutely no connection (other than the
> > attempts by those who don't use them to want to
> > separate themselves from those that do).
>
>
> And the problems with this is????
> Tom W7WHY
no problem, which is the point of the question. So2r is ONE OPERATOR
doing all he can to win. Using packet takes assistance from other
operators which used to put you in a multi op class. The s/o 'assisted'
class was actually NOT a split of s/o, it was a split of the m/s class
into those who actually had only one operator at the radios and those
who had more than one operator at the radios.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Sat Apr 27 09:02:35 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Bogus check--check/// one guy does it with
wires!...another with wheels
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHAEOBDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
W6LX wrote....
>I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a different check
>than my correct check. On purpose. Al, W6LX
Sure, Al....it's not that it was so long ago you can't REMEMBER what it is, eh?
(Which is, truth to tell, my situation. Novice ticket arrived around a
year-end.)
-0-
To the guy who pointed out KQ2M's so2r prowess....I might point out that
Bob, for the most part, has done this with WIRES. Now, his
place looks like a damned spider web, with those wire beams all over
the place....but he has instant directional switching as a result. As his
tower system comes on line, look for the scores to go down :)
-0-
And then there's Dougie, W3CF, who's busy practicing wheelies with his
portable station in a box.
-0-
And we STILL haven't solved the ultimate packet question!!!
-0-
Natives are restless...snow is off the mountains in VT...must be time for
Dayton.
Jim/N2EA
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sat Apr 27 14:16:24 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ne qso party rules?
Message-ID: <000801c1eded$bbc422f0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
A problem to expect with the new CT 9.72 for the NE QSO Party for those
of you with computer controlled radios who haven't seen these bugs in
the recent versions of CT(or haven't cared because most contests are
single mode only):
Changing modes on the ts-940 or ft-1000 (the mp seems to be ok) must be
done on the computer and THEN ALSO on the radio to get them to match up.
I don't know if this applies to other radios, but it is something to
watch for.
Also noted, my f10-check mult window seems to be empty.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From k3ft at erols.com Sat Apr 27 10:15:29 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
References: <000201c1eddc$00004410$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <3CCAB281.4167@erols.com>
Have to laugh at what some guy might think as he copies my check of '03' (for
the 2002
SS) which, when, after about 15 hours my Q number is up there as being quite
good for a
99 year old contester! HEH (Guess it's true! RF and CW DO tend to preserve one
rather
well!) IT's even MORR humorous when the folks who know me wonder how I aged so
quickly.
(I tell 'em it is due to being on 20M SSB for 20 hours during the DX contests!)
I'm with the other people. As long as it's consistent, it's what you report,
and I copy
what you sent.. send what you like!
73
Chuck K3FT
>From k1ir at designet.com Sat Apr 27 10:24:04 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
Message-ID: <nw4xvyay87pbki3.270420020924@designet-jsi>
>I'm thinking of doing it again.<
Al,
How could you? This interpretation of the SS rules is highly irregular.
Clearly, you have created an unfair advantage for yourself in using a Bogus
Check. Don't underestimate the significance of what you're doing here. Changing
your check from your actual year first licensed to 55 seems to have given you a
huge advantage in dits. Dats not fair. And changing your check to 00 in phone
seems to have given you a similar advantage in zeros. Now, some will argue that
the advantage is not that big; some will say its huge. Some will say they just
don't have the resources to implement such an advantage for themselves.
This flagrant rules violation almost rises to the level of the Bogus Signal
Report, now a widespread practice amongst hardcore contesters. How does a
dedicated DXer challenge these uncaring contest ops who continually send a 59
when the spirit of the rules dictate that correct report is "22 and please
confirm your call"? To allow these upstanding DXers to compete on a level
playing field, the category SOBS [Single-Op Bogus Signal Report] is long
overdue.
At a minimum, you must self-declare yourself as SOBC, and the CAC should
immediately begin deliberations on how to structure this serious new category
of SS competition.
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Sat Apr 27 11:07:10 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
In-Reply-To: <3CCAB281.4167@erols.com>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDGEABEGAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
I guess I'm going against the Majority on this one. Could I have
been to be the only one to have read the rules in modern memory?
The rules specify what to send for *check* in the same way it
does for *section*.
>From the SS Rules (from the ARRL web site):
" 4.Exchange: The required exchange consists of:
4.1. A consecutive serial number;
4.2. Precedence;
4.2.1. "Q" for Single Op QRP (5 W output or less);
4.2.2. "A" for Single Op Low Power (up to 150 W output);
4.2.3. "B" for Single Op High Power (greater than 150 W output);
4.2.4. "U" for Single Op Unlimited;
4.2.5. "M" for Multi-Op;
4.2.6. "S" for School Club;
4.3. Your Callsign;
4.4. Check (the last two digits of the year you were first licensed);
4.5. ARRL/RAC Section"
Check is explicitly specified. Section is explicitly specified.
Precedence is explicitly specified. Where does it say "or whatever
you feel like using instead"?
If you can justify changing the *check* in your exchange, I can
justify changing the **Section** in my exchange (so long as I'm
consistent)! In fact, as it doesn't say "*Your* ARRL/RAC Section"
it is **less** explicit than the specification for Check, which it
says must be "...year *you* were first licensed"!
Perhaps I'll send "WY' or "ND" as my *section* this year, as they
*are* ARRL Sections. From Ohio, that should provide an advantage
for me!
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Chuck K3FT
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 10:15 AM
> To: CQ-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
>
>
> Have to laugh at what some guy might think as he copies my check
> of '03' (for the 2002
> SS) which, when, after about 15 hours my Q number is up there as
> being quite good for a
> 99 year old contester! HEH (Guess it's true! RF and CW DO tend to
> preserve one rather
> well!) IT's even MORR humorous when the folks who know me wonder
> how I aged so quickly.
> (I tell 'em it is due to being on 20M SSB for 20 hours during
> the DX contests!)
>
> I'm with the other people. As long as it's consistent, it's what
> you report, and I copy
> what you sent.. send what you like!
>
> 73
> Chuck K3FT
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>From kwolff at charter.net Sat Apr 27 13:12:55 2002
From: kwolff@charter.net (Ken Wolff)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [YCCC] ne qso party rules?
In-Reply-To: <000e01c1edf5$edc2edb0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <000001c1ee06$64390f00$c801010a@home.k1ea.com>
Fixed it. Find at www.k1ea.com
-----Original Message-----
From: David Robbins [mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 10:15 AM
To: k1ea@contesting.com; reflector ct-user
Subject: FW: [YCCC] ne qso party rules?
Alt-z closes the check call window then crashes the machine.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Frenaye [mailto:frenaye@pcnet.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 13:39
> To: David Robbins
> Subject: Re: [YCCC] ne qso party rules?
>
> At 01:16 PM 4/27/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>
> >Also noted, my f10-check mult window seems to be empty.
>
> Alt-Z brings it up I think... -- Tom
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> ------------------------------------------
> e-mail: frenaye@pcnet.com YCCC --> http://www.yccc.org/
> Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone:
860-668-5444
>From k3ft at erols.com Sat Apr 27 13:38:39 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SoBS/SoBC
Message-ID: <3CCAE21F.5BA7@erols.com>
So BC! So BS! Great idea! How about just 'BC' and 'BS' ;-)
Personally, I don't care WHAT check or section you send as long as you are
consistent
and that's what you submit under IF you choose to send in a log. If you pick a
'rare'
section, you oughta be ready to answer ALL the QSL requests tho! (AND DON'T
expect
SASE's! <grin>)
C'mon guys.. let's lighten up. I think we're suffering 'SO2R Thread burnout'
here.
Remember the line from the 50's and 60's.. 'It's ONLY a movie.. It's only a
movie.. It's
only a movie!...'
73
Chuck K3FT
>From chas.shaw at verizon.net Sat Apr 27 17:43:43 2002
From: chas.shaw@verizon.net (Charles W. Shaw)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
In-Reply-To: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDGEABEGAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
References: <3CCAB281.4167@erols.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020427163820.009d1330@mail.verizon.net>
Jeff Maass wrote:
>I guess I'm going against the Majority on this one.
I will join Jeff. In addition to what he pointed
out about the RULES, it is handy and interesting
to know the tenure of the station you are working!
And, I really was first licensed in '55!
Charles, N5UL
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Apr 27 15:04:46 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
References: <200204271603.g3RG3J9F001583@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <04f201c1ee16$087103c0$03010a0a@office1>
My college club station (K3CR up at Penn State) was first on the air in
1909, and got one of the first Department of Commerce licenses (8XE) in
1912. Now just try and convince the kids up there that they should use a
check of '12,' just like the rules state (year the station was first
licensed, right?)
A few years ago, I was told (when I got a check of "84" if I recall
correctly) that a would-be lawyer in the club claimed that under strict
interpretation of the rules, each operator was obligated to use as the check
the year HE (or she) was first licensed.
Another time, someone mistakenly used the year the club got the call (72) as
the check instead of year first licensed -- mistake was caught after about
70-80 QSO's and then they switched. This was back in the pre-computer days,
incidently... anyway this was reported with the explanation when the log was
sent in so that no one else would get penalized for our mistake.
In any event, I know the question did come up once about the appropriate
check to use -- the Penn State ARC itself only dates to the early 1960's
even though the Penn State station goes way back, which is a whole 'nother
story -- and we were told by the ARRL contest folks at the time that in the
case of ambiguity, any valid check would be accepted so long as the same
check was consistently used throughout the contest.
And consider this folks... what do we do in 10 years time when the 2 digit
check "laps"? Is there going to be a distinction made between "1912" and
"2012" checks, or are they both going to simply be "12"? (Granted, this
will most likely only affect club stations, but you never know...
I have many fond memories of Sweepstakes operating from K3CR. You can blame
my love of contesting on W3AS, WA3FET, K3UA, K3YD, AA3B, WA3WAW, the former
WA3WUD (can never
remember Howie's "new" 2x1 call) and a host of others. And then there was
the time
the Young Gun Contester (who was a student at the time but not a member of
the club) who asked if he could operate the club station SO in SS because
he'd
been disqualified the year before under his own ticket... but if I mention
his call, he'll
definitely snub me at Dayton this year. Hmmmm... tempting...
73, ron wn3vaw
'Never attribute to malice that which is adequately
explained by stupidity.' --Hanlon's Razor
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck K3FT <k3ft@erols.com>
To: CQ-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
Have to laugh at what some guy might think as he copies my check of '03'
(for the 2002
SS) which, when, after about 15 hours my Q number is up there as being quite
good for a
99 year old contester! HEH (Guess it's true! RF and CW DO tend to preserve
one rather
well!) IT's even MORR humorous when the folks who know me wonder how I aged
so quickly.
(I tell 'em it is due to being on 20M SSB for 20 hours during the DX
contests!)
I'm with the other people. As long as it's consistent, it's what you report,
and I copy
what you sent.. send what you like!
73
Chuck K3FT
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>From ve3iay at rac.ca Sat Apr 27 19:02:46 2002
From: ve3iay@rac.ca (Richard Ferch)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
Message-ID: <000701c1ee37$4525c640$6400a8c0@workstation1>
On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:07:10 -0400, Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com sent:
> If you can justify changing the *check* in your exchange, I can
> justify changing the **Section** in my exchange (so long as I'm
> consistent)! In fact, as it doesn't say "*Your* ARRL/RAC Section"
> it is **less** explicit than the specification for Check, which it
> says must be "...year *you* were first licensed"!
>
> Perhaps I'll send "WY' or "ND" as my *section* this year, as they
> *are* ARRL Sections. From Ohio, that should provide an advantage
> for me!
>
Surely you jest, Jeff!
Using a faked check is a lot like fibbing about your age in the All Asian
contest, or the commonplace practice of using a nickname in the NAQP.
Remember all the "Chad"s in January 2001? Did anyone seriously suggest that
this was a violation of the rules? Heck, there's even an award for "best
name" in the RTTY NAQP! I think the majority view you referred to is that
the check in SS is similar to these.
Using a faked section would be completely different. In SS, the section is a
critical element of contest scoring, both for multipliers and for the Clean
Sweep award, as well as for your competitive position vs. the rest of the
section. Lying about your section would attack the integrity of the contest
results and awards. I'm proud of my Clean Sweep mug, but if I seriously
thought there was a chance that some of the QSOs were with falsified
sections, I would throw it out - it would have no value to me. Not that it
is any of my business (I'm not an ARRL member), but my personal opinion is
that if a station located in Ohio were to deliberately send "WY" or "ND" as
his section, that should be grounds for disqualification. And no, I don't
think for a second that you or anyone else on this reflector would actually
do that - it was obviously a "straw man" argument!
The callsign in the exchange is another such critical element; it must be
consistent and unchanged during the contest, any particular call sign must
only be used by one station during the contest, and of course it must be a
callsign the operator is legally entitled to use.
The precedence is different. I don't care during the contest what the other
station's precedence is, as long as they record it correctly in their log
(for log checking - obviously, to deliberately record something different in
the log than what was sent over the air would be highly unethical, but I
hope we are not talking about that kind of tactic!). However, the log
checkers may wish to insist that it be consistent with the entry
classification, and that is their prerogative. Nevertheless, let's suppose
someone, perhaps for childish one-upmanship reasons, sends "Q" during the
contest, logs the exchange as such, but uses high power and enters their log
in the high power category (again, I am not talking about lying about the
power, only about using an incorrect precedence in the exchange). If
everyone could somehow be completely sure that this would not result in
errors during the log checking process or a misclassification of the entry,
would it really matter?
The serial number is similar. It doesn't matter to me if someone increases
their serial number by ten instead of by one after every QSO, as long as
what they put in their log agrees with what they sent me. Indeed, the longer
serial numbers they will have to send will probably increase the number of
fills they are asked for, so it's actually in my competitive interest if
someone else inflates their serial numbers. The log checkers may choose to
insist otherwise, of course, and have their own valid reasons for doing so.
Furthermore, they can easily enforce the rule about consecutive serial
numbers by checking the logs, just as they can enforce the precedence rule
by cross-checking the precedence with the entry class.
However, using a bogus check affects no-one at all. As long as I copy
correctly what the other guy sends, and as long as he records it correctly
in his log, who cares? Again, the log checkers may insist that it not change
during the contest for log-checking reasons. I suppose that, according to a
literal-minded reading of the rules, they could even insist that it be
correct, but why would they? Unlike insisting that the check be consistent,
which is verifiable, insisting on correctness would be unenforceable and,
more importantly, immaterial, and therefore a waste of time. Logically, a
rule which is unenforceable and immaterial may not be a very good one, but
there would be no real point to changing this particular rule even if
everyone agreed that it needn't be taken literally.
Despite the above argument, I think that Al's idea of changing his check is
not a particularly good one as far as improving his score is concerned. I
believe the net effect on his score could even be negative, as follows:
Given the widespread use of master callsign databases, there is an advantage
to using a consistent check every year, or a consistent name in every NAQP.
It's similar to the advantage everyone gets by sending 599 instead of a true
signal report in CQ WW. Namely, it may slightly reduce the number of fills,
which may in turn have a positive effect on the score. On the other hand, I
suppose using a different name or check every year or a different signal
report every QSO might improve your competitive situation ever so slightly
by increasing the likelihood of busted QSOs in your competitors' logs.
Speaking for myself, I would judge the former effect to be of more actual
benefit than the latter.
Now on the other hand, if Al wanted to shorten his Sweepstakes exchange by
moving from LAX to NE, I'm sure he would get lots of encouragement from the
rest of us! ;)
73,
Rich VE3IAY
>From swca at swbell.net Sun Apr 28 08:15:03 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
References: <000701c1ee37$4525c640$6400a8c0@workstation1>
Message-ID: <011001c1eeae$55f67560$934afea9@TL01>
I think if Al wants to send "55" as his check but it is not the year he was
first licensed, he must first find an op who was licensed in 55 like Charles
there. Charlie goes to Al's house, drinks the beer and eats the sandwiches,
and Al enter Multi-Single.
Mark, N5OT
>From aj9c at comteck.com Sun Apr 28 14:06:23 2002
From: aj9c@comteck.com (Mike Kasrich)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SS checks
Message-ID: <3CCBF3CF.7030605@comteck.com>
Ive always understood you were to use the last two numbers from the year
you were first licensed. If you don't my apple cart won't be tipped one
way or the other but the guys with the super duper master.dat files
might get confused for a second or so.
mike/aj9c
NR A AJ9C 74 IN
>From k4ww at arrl.net Sun Apr 28 13:37:16 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Rules
Message-ID: <001901c1eed2$f594d840$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
>From the "official" SS rules:
4.Exchange: The required exchange consists of:
4.1. A consecutive serial number;
4.2. Precedence;
4.2.1. "Q" for Single Op QRP (5 W output or less);
4.2.2. "A" for Single Op Low Power (up to 150 W output);
4.2.3. "B" for Single Op High Power (greater than 150 W output);
4.2.4. "U" for Single Op Unlimited;
4.2.5. "M" for Multi-Op;
4.2.6. "S" for School Club;
4.3. Your Callsign;
4.4. Check (the last two digits of the year you were first licensed);
4.5. ARRL/RAC Section
Example: WA4QQN would respond to W1AW's call by sending: W1AW 123 B WA4QQN
71 NC which indicates QSO number 123, B for Single Op High Power, WA4QQN,
first licensed in 1971, and in the North Carolina section.
4.6. With the exception of the serial number, which changes from QSO to QSO,
the exchange sent must remain consistent during the entire contest.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Usually many of a contest(s) rules are somewhat "open to interpretation"?
Many are quick to point out in another often discussed thread that "SO = one
(1) operator, regardless of the amount of equipment"? The wording of SS
rules, at least to me, leave no doubt of what an exchange should be? At no
place, within the "exchange" portion of the rules, do I find "send what you
care"? Several years ago the question of "check" came up while discussing a
m/o using W4CN (class of 27), and we were advised "that in a m/o, the check
should be that of the callsign being used"! IMHO, any proven, deliberate
deviation from the "official" rules should be grounds for disqualification?
I also notice that no one in an "official" capacity from ARRL has commented
on this ridiculous attempt at circumventing the posted rules, gives even
more reason to believe it is purely "a figment of someone's distorted
imagination"?
C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
>From kq2m at mags.net Sun Apr 28 14:16:14 2002
From: kq2m@mags.net (Robert Shohet)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Router/Firewall/Network/Internet spot problems?
Message-ID: <000701c1eed8$682227a0$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
Hi Guys,
I currently am using a Dell Win98 Ver 2 computer with a Motorola SB4100
Cable Modem and Charter Pipeline - Cable Modem Internet access. I am also
using Zonealarm Pro Ver 2.6 as my firewall.
My plan was to install a D-Link DI-704P router and then connect up my other
Win98 Ver 2 computer in the shack (a Dell optiplex running on Win 98 Ver 2).
I decided to "test" the router by first connecting it to the upstairs
computer.
I shut down Zonealarm Pro and then hooked up the router and went through the
installation process.
After it was installed, I noticed that I couldn't browse. So I went to the
Appendix and ran the "Ping" test on the gateway address - it passed the
test. But I still couldn't browse or receive e-mail.
I called Charter - my cable/internet provider and was told that Zonealarm
might be the culprit but I thought I remembered Zonealarm asking me about
something and then asking for my password to change it.
I suspect that the Router does work but I am not sure what is "blocking" the
ability of the cable modem and the computer to talk with each other through
the router. I am hoping that someone out there has a Win98 computer with
Zonealarm and the DLink DI-704p router and can tell me what I am missing.
BTW, after removing the router and reinstalling the cable modem settings,
everything works fine again.
Any ideas please or suggestions? Thanks for your help.
73
Bob KQ2M
>From w5xd at writelog.com Sun Apr 28 20:35:05 2002
From: w5xd@writelog.com (W. Wright, W5XD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SS checks
In-Reply-To: <3CCBF3CF.7030605@comteck.com>
Message-ID: <000601c1eeeb$ccdceb40$6400000a@W5XD>
For any given SS weekend, I feel free to choose either '71 (the year I know
I made my first QSO--in February) or '70 (because I seem to remember my
license date was earlier and I am too lazy to research the details).
But after sending 71 for many years, I find I get asked for a lot more fills
if I send 70. Since I am not a serious competitor and because I really
dislike the use of databases instead of copying off the air, I still plan to
send 70 some weekends just to slow down the database guys.
Wayne
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Sun Apr 28 21:59:02 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?iso-8859-1?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Rules
References: <001901c1eed2$f594d840$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
Message-ID: <00ec01c1eeef$264a9120$4215be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shelby Summerville" <k4ww@arrl.net>
> Several years ago the question of "check" came up while discussing a
> m/o using W4CN (class of 27), and we were advised "that in a m/o, the check
> should be that of the callsign being used"! IMHO, any proven, deliberate
> deviation from the "official" rules should be grounds for disqualification?
Sunuvugun, Shelby. That's going to cause a lot of difficulty for folks with
calls which have been recycled. For example our club got the call W0EF
in 1994. Before that we were KB0SAH (1992). We got the call W0EF
in memoriam of an SK member. He got the call in 1977. Prior to that
the call had first been issued in 1924 to another fellow. I was first licensed
in 1963. Now, if I am operating W0EF in SS do I use:
A. 1924 (The year W0EF was first issued)
B. 1963 (The year I was first licensed)
C. 1992 (The year the club was first licensed)
D. 1994 (The year W0EF was issued to our club)
E. 1955 (The year my cousin Frank caught the crabs on liberty in Kobe)
I bet the ARRL doesn't care a bit which date we use, so long as we use the same
number all weekend long.
73, de Hans, K0HB
>From n4zr at contesting.com Sun Apr 28 18:18:23 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SS checks
In-Reply-To: <000601c1eeeb$ccdceb40$6400000a@W5XD>
References: <3CCBF3CF.7030605@comteck.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020428171608.025b6be0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 07:35 PM 4/28/02 +0000, W. Wright, W5XD wrote:
>For any given SS weekend, I feel free to choose either '71 (the year I know
>I made my first QSO--in February) or '70 (because I seem to remember my
>license date was earlier and I am too lazy to research the details).
>
>But after sending 71 for many years, I find I get asked for a lot more fills
>if I send 70. Since I am not a serious competitor and because I really
>dislike the use of databases instead of copying off the air, I still plan to
>send 70 some weekends just to slow down the database guys.
That's good by me, Wayne -- you will join the 50 or so guys last year whose
checks and/or sections didn't agree with the ones they sent me the year
before. That's about 3 times as many as the total number of QSOs I lost
due to copying errors, so there must be quite a bit of check-changing
really going on.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From k5zd at charter.net Sun Apr 28 23:07:35 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Router/Firewall/Network/Internet spot problems?
In-Reply-To: <000701c1eed8$682227a0$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDMEHHDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
And this has what to do with contesting? Seems there are better sources of
networking tech support on the Internet.
Although it could be a welcome change from SO2R and SS checks! :)
K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Robert Shohet
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 17:16 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Router/Firewall/Network/Internet spot problems?
>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I currently am using a Dell Win98 Ver 2 computer with a Motorola SB4100
> Cable Modem and Charter Pipeline - Cable Modem Internet access. I am also
> using Zonealarm Pro Ver 2.6 as my firewall.
>
> My plan was to install a D-Link DI-704P router and then connect
> up my other
> Win98 Ver 2 computer in the shack (a Dell optiplex running on Win
> 98 Ver 2).
>
> I decided to "test" the router by first connecting it to the upstairs
> computer.
>
> I shut down Zonealarm Pro and then hooked up the router and went
> through the
> installation process.
>
> After it was installed, I noticed that I couldn't browse. So I
> went to the
> Appendix and ran the "Ping" test on the gateway address - it passed the
> test. But I still couldn't browse or receive e-mail.
>
> I called Charter - my cable/internet provider and was told that Zonealarm
> might be the culprit but I thought I remembered Zonealarm asking me about
> something and then asking for my password to change it.
>
> I suspect that the Router does work but I am not sure what is
> "blocking" the
> ability of the cable modem and the computer to talk with each
> other through
> the router. I am hoping that someone out there has a Win98 computer with
> Zonealarm and the DLink DI-704p router and can tell me what I am missing.
>
> BTW, after removing the router and reinstalling the cable modem settings,
> everything works fine again.
>
> Any ideas please or suggestions? Thanks for your help.
>
> 73
>
> Bob KQ2M
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From steve at oakcom.com Sun Apr 28 20:27:34 2002
From: steve@oakcom.com (Steve Maki)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Router/Firewall/Network/Internet spot problems?
In-Reply-To: <000701c1eed8$682227a0$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
References: <000701c1eed8$682227a0$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
Message-ID: <ir0pcuco4oiarbj4162sogidmhh5n4g8jl@4ax.com>
KQ2M wrote:
>Hi Guys,
>
>I currently am using a Dell Win98 Ver 2 computer with a Motorola SB4100
>Cable Modem and Charter Pipeline - Cable Modem Internet access. I am also
>using Zonealarm Pro Ver 2.6 as my firewall.
>
>My plan was to install a D-Link DI-704P router and then connect up my other
>Win98 Ver 2 computer in the shack (a Dell optiplex running on Win 98 Ver 2).
>
>I decided to "test" the router by first connecting it to the upstairs
>computer.
>
>I shut down Zonealarm Pro and then hooked up the router and went through the
>installation process.
>
>After it was installed, I noticed that I couldn't browse. So I went to the
>Appendix and ran the "Ping" test on the gateway address - it passed the
>test. But I still couldn't browse or receive e-mail.
>
>I called Charter - my cable/internet provider and was told that Zonealarm
>might be the culprit but I thought I remembered Zonealarm asking me about
>something and then asking for my password to change it.
>
>I suspect that the Router does work but I am not sure what is "blocking" the
>ability of the cable modem and the computer to talk with each other through
>the router. I am hoping that someone out there has a Win98 computer with
>Zonealarm and the DLink DI-704p router and can tell me what I am missing.
>
>BTW, after removing the router and reinstalling the cable modem settings,
>everything works fine again.
>
>Any ideas please or suggestions? Thanks for your help.
Your gateway address may now be your router, in which case the
ping test only tells you that your home network is working.
Ordinarily you must notify your cable co. of your new MAC address
(the router's MAC address). After you do that, connectivity to the
outside world will REQUIRE that you have the router in line.
73
--
Steve K8LX
>From n5nj at gte.net Sun Apr 28 21:39:28 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (Bob Naumann - N5NJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Rules
References: <001901c1eed2$f594d840$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
<00ec01c1eeef$264a9120$4215be3f@bigguy>
Message-ID: <002d01c1ef1e$b3f94640$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
K4WW stated:
> Several years ago the question of "check" came up while discussing a
> m/o using W4CN (class of 27), and we were advised "that in a m/o, the
check
> should be that of the callsign being used"!
K0HB queried:
" Now, if I am operating W0EF in SS do I use:
> A. 1924 (The year W0EF was first issued)
> B. 1963 (The year I was first licensed)
> C. 1992 (The year the club was first licensed)
> D. 1994 (The year W0EF was issued to our club)
> E. 1955 (The year my cousin Frank caught the crabs on liberty in Kobe) "
The correct answer would be "C".
Because:
The callsign being used was issued to the club, and 1992 was the year the
club was first licensed.
Does it matter really? Nope.
73,
N5NJ
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Sun Apr 28 19:49:16 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
References: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Message-ID: <012b01c1ef20$12e4eff0$ede3c23f@KR6X.ORG>
I've been struggling over this one for the past two days. Here's my
answer:
If I were asked this question by the sponsors of the SS, I'd probably
suggest that a liberal interpretation of the rules was in order. I'd
probably
take the attitude that it doesn't really matter to me whether someone
used
his real check or some other number.
If I were beaten by one contact in a contest where the leader took a
liberal interpretation and sent 55 on CW where his real check was 01,
I would probably not complain bitterly and suggest that the leader be
disqualified for violating the rules.
But if I were the sponsor of the contest and I received a complaint
from
a second place operator who might have been in first place but for the
liberal interpretation that the leader took, I'd be forced to
interpret the
rules strictly, no matter what my personal opinion was.
So here I am, not in the position of a sponsor, but in the position of
a
friend being asked for advice prior to the contest while you still
have
choices. Honestly my best advice as a friend is that you should avoid
being challenged by second place; make certain you follow the strict
interpretation of the rules so that you will never be put in the
embarrassing position of being disqualified for such a pitifully tiny
issue.
KR6X
----- Original Message -----
From: <al_lorona@agilent.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 5:34 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
>
> Hi, Everybody,
>
> I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a
different check
> than my correct check. On purpose. I think I used something like
'55' in the
> CW SS, and '00' in the phone SS. Why did I do this? I guess I
thought it
> would be cool to try out another number. Or to alleviate boredom. I
don't
> know.
>
> I had talked it over with a friend before the contest and we came to
the
> conclusion that it would not be against the spirit of the rules to
do so.
> After all, the SS check is only a simulation of a real check anyway,
which
> of course is the word count of a message. And it's not the same as
changing
> your precedence or your section, which would have very serious
consequences
> for you and for others.
>
> I suspect that some folks couldn't care less what check I sent,
while others
> may take exception to the practice. I want to hear all sides,
because I'm
> thinking of doing it again.
>
> Regards,
>
> Al W6LX
>
> _______________________________________________
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>From ah3c at frii.com Mon Apr 29 06:33:38 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
References: <000701c1ee37$4525c640$6400a8c0@workstation1>
<011001c1eeae$55f67560$934afea9@TL01>
Message-ID: <002a01c1ef71$b5b0f2a0$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Mark,
Great idea! You are welcome to share Buds or Beaujolais and use my '58
check any time. I'll even do mushroom/swiss omelets for the Sunday
doldroms. Who knows, contesting from home might even become fun enough for
me to get back in the fray....We could set some sort of record in the
revised "A" category: Annebriated.
73,
Pete, W0RTT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Beckwith" <swca@swbell.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
> I think if Al wants to send "55" as his check but it is not the year he
was
> first licensed, he must first find an op who was licensed in 55 like
Charles
> there. Charlie goes to Al's house, drinks the beer and eats the
sandwiches,
> and Al enter Multi-Single.
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
>
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>
>
>From Cqtestk4xs at aol.com Mon Apr 29 10:50:26 2002
From: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com (Cqtestk4xs@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Checks in SS
Message-ID: <34.26c0172d.29fea9a2@aol.com>
I really don't do much posting, but this thread is interesting. Who gives a
fat rat's tail what the check is. Other than for data analysis, one check is
as good as another. I have used 62 for years, but if the urge overcomes me,
I may use 73, 88 or some other number.
Is changing your check any different than "borrowing" a friend's desirable
call or to have a secondary "club" desirable call where you are the
trustee....especially for WPX? Check the latest claimed scores for WPX.
Lots of once a year calls are in there from some big guns.
Bill K4XS(SS)...aka WK4R(WPX)
>From kg2au at stny.rr.com Mon Apr 29 11:16:17 2002
From: kg2au@stny.rr.com (Jimmy Weierich)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Rules
In-Reply-To: <002d01c1ef1e$b3f94640$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
References: <001901c1eed2$f594d840$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
<00ec01c1eeef$264a9120$4215be3f@bigguy>
<002d01c1ef1e$b3f94640$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
Message-ID: <a05100300b8f3048b1755@[66.24.254.199]>
I became licensed as a novice in 1960. Updated to technician before
the novice expired but let it lapse after the five year term.
Became licensed again in 1994. What year should I use?
To paraphrase a former president, I guess it depends on what "first" is.
I agree with N5NJ.
Best regards,
Jimmy
>Does it matter really? Nope.
>
>73,
>N5NJ
--
Jimmy Weierich, K2LV, ex KG2AU <kg2au@stny.rr.com>
Vestal, NY USA FN12xa
>From W3DMB at aol.com Mon Apr 29 11:27:30 2002
From: W3DMB@aol.com (W3DMB@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re:[CQ Contest] 'bogus' check
Message-ID: <40.1ce8c2e3.29feb252@aol.com>
Since my check was 55 (no sense changing that) I guess I have to find another
way to get an edge.
Perhaps just use initials (GW) like the real OOTs did or change my area
or if that doesn't help - just learn to copy hi-speed cw [probably the best
idea].
Jerry, W3DMB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Beckwith" <swca@swbell.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
I think if Al wants to send "55" as his check but it is not the year he was
first licensed, he must first find an op who was licensed in 55 like Charles
there. Charlie goes to Al's house, drinks the beer and eats the sandwiches,
and Al enter Multi-Single.
Mark, N5OT
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 29 08:28:59 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Florida QSO Party - Claimed Scores 29Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204291428.g3TESx204326@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Florida QSO Party - Claimed Scores 29Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: FLQSOParty@aol.com
Mail logs to:
Florida QSO Party
c/o Ron Wetjen, WD4AHZ
5362 Castleman Dr.
Sarasota, FL 34232
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/SMixed LP
NJ4M(@WD4AHZ) 447 642 63 70 20 408,576 Sarasota Emergency R
AD4ES 444 497 67 70 20 188,745 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
MobileCW LP
K1KI/M 28 7 20 7 1 3,402 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SchoolCW LP
K8GU 50 0 30 0 2 6,000 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABCW HP
W4SO 693 0 87 0 120,582
VE1OP 259 0 67 0 17 34,706
K2SX 243 0 64 0 31,104 YCCC
GM3POI 230 0 67 0 30,820
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABCW LP
K8IR 319 0 66 0 18 84,216 BAY AREA WIRELESS
K5ZD 271 0 65 0 7 70,460 YCCC
NT6K 252 0 64 0 18 64,512 NCCC
W4AU 208 0 61 0 10 50,752 Loudoun ARG
W8RU 182 0 62 0 7 45,136 MRRC
K1KI 194 0 55 0 4 42,680 YCCC
NO5W 142 0 59 0 33,512
K5OT 170 0 64 0 21,760 SMC
AE9B 55 0 28 0 2 3,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed HP
K3WW 247 47 64 27 15 49,231 FRC
K6LA 142 152 55 41 12 41,856 SCCC
W6KC 98 72 39 28 6 17,956
N2ED 96 59 40 20 5 15,060 FRC
K8DX 36 19 20 14 1 3,094 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed LP
N4PN 365 1646 67 121 20 893,376 Panama City ARC
N6MU(@N6NB) 367 228 66 55 20 232,804 SCCC
W8MJ 365 216 67 49 20 219,472 MRRC
N2CU 296 112 64 41 13 147,840 Western New York DX
NY1S 223 54 60 20 14 80,000
K5WO 259 83 66 0 16 79,332 NTCC
N4PK 58 340 0 0 75,696
W8CAR 140 61 49 29 10 53,196 MRRC
N9NE 206 72 61 27 11 48,928 Fond du Lac (WI)
N4CW 114 26 54 18 36,576
W9RE 153 60 58 29 31,929 SMC
K0OU 104 37 45 20 31,850 SMC
AE6Y 86 34 39 15 3 22,248 NCCC
NS3T 79 21 44 17 5 10,919
K5KA 46 6 5 29 2 6,664
AB2E 55 27 50 32 10 6,302 FRC
VE7SR(VE7TLL) 7 11 7 9 1 800
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed QRP
K5IID 239 75 66 34 15 165,900 MRRC
K1RC 190 43 1140 129 102,789
W0ETT 116 54 0 0 9 17,446 Grand Mesa
K4IU 88 31 43 16 13,865 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABSSB HP
K4XS 0 2278 0 124 20 282,472 FCG
VK2CZ 0 44 0 25 1,100
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABSSB LP
VE3BUC 0 89 0 33 4 2,937
KB9UWU 0 41 0 21 1 1,722 SMC
W1DAD 0 30 0 19 2 1,140 YCCC
W6ZZZ 0 19 0 11 209 NCCC
Operators:
AD4ES AD4ES,K9ES
NJ4M W1ROX,WD4AHZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 29 08:31:15 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 SPDX RTTY Contest - All Claimed Scores 29Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204291431.g3TEVFa04340@localhost.localdomain>
2002 SPDX RTTY Contest - All Claimed Scores 29Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: sknerus@polbox.com
Mail logs to:
SPDX RTTY Contest Manager
Christopher Ulatowski
Box 253
81-963 Gdynia 1
Poland
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op HP
SQ6Z(@SP6YAQ) 664 4269 172 24 5,711,922
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Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
AA5AU 175 78 1272 5 595,296
VA3DX 125 1093 60 4 327,900
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Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
GU0SUP 225 1475 106 938,100
PA5AT 258 1562 110 14 859,100
VE9DX 102 782 63 5 295,596
SV1XV 103 603 81 15 293,058
Operators:
SQ6Z SP3RBR,SP6RZ,SP8NR
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Apr 29 14:27:14 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K4FCG/M FQP 2,002 - long
References: <179.77cafff.29fec4e6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <036401c1efa3$1a9589c0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Congrats to team TOad - once again proving TWO TO's are better than one!
N4KM and K4OJ once again activated the club call K4FCG this year - we made a
few driving errors on the first day which team TO was kind enough to correct
on the second day...part of this was due to being a little frazzled at the
beginning of the contest...
The one thing I did not check out BEFORE the contest almost spelled
disaster - I was in charge of the computer/station and N4KM had the xcvr and
antennas installed on his new Nissan - what a great ride for ths trip...
As we connected the gear all together on Saturday morning the laptop wasn't
working - I had loaded all the NA files into it the night before and did
some trial logging and it seamed fine....the problem came in that I had done
this software stuff from home using the AC adaptor.
I had bought an off the shelf DC adaptor for the laptop power and just
plugged everything in - BIG MISTAKE.
The DC adaptor had reversable polarity on the plug and sure enough it was
exactly wrong.
Not knowing what we would find Kevin, N4KM said let's take a look inside -
as a QCAO the thought of opening up a Thinkpad Laptop and doing diagnostics
blew my mind!
After about 45 or 50 screws were removed the power supply board was found
and this little teenie tiny surface mount fuse, about the size of a grain of
rice - was found to be open....being the weekend with only a couple of hours
until the start of FQP it was decided to bridge the fuse with solder and see
if that was the only thing wrong with the computer. Mind you at this point
I had about soiled my britches...but, sure enough together it went and voila
it booted!
There is a Florida Contest God!
Now that the laptop was working we finished installing all of our gear off
we went - at the start of the contest we were running behind - had hoped to
start in Osceola but since we were running late it was actually Polk we
started in...I was so frazzled I completely forgot we were supposed to
detour into Okeechobee as one of our first counties and by the time I
realised we had missed it we were passed it - thanks to K1TO/N4TO for
covering that one Sunday...
The previous weekend we had gotten together with the Two TO's at a Floirda
cOntest Group meeting and decided to run opposite ends of the state in
oppostie directions each day - that way if one of us had an opportunity to
offer a sweep there would be a greater chance of it happening.
After a couple of hours into the contest activity really seemed to pick up
and for several hours on Saturday afternoon we were able to work as well on
15 as we were on 20 - this was fun since the same core group could work us
in the same county at least twice, now!
We made good time Saturday despite hitting the detour WD4AHZ warned us
about, and ended up adding Pinellas, and Hillsborough as well as Pasco to
our Saturday tally....at the end of the first day N4TO and K4FCG were both
in Pasco - suspect we were going in opposite directions on I75! Could hear
them "blowing by" the filters, hi!
Managed to get going ok on Sunday - we got off a little earlier than planned
so added a side trip to Citrus into the mix...dunno if that is my favorite
county or ORA, Orange!
conditions were definatley not as good on Sunday as they were Saturday, the
killer signals of GM3POI was down to s8 or s9...and 15 wasn't there for
double band core group QSOs
We knew that HA1AG needed Putnam bad so we parked there for almost an hour
and made 88 QSOs - unfortunately no Zoli to be found :-(
Things ran smooth Sunday - with all the activity from KH2D we decided to
skip hittting Northernmost Nassau and just high tailed it down 95
South...because we did that we got to return at the end to Osceola and Polk
counties.
N4KM has a great ride - it was a real pleasure to operate the FQP in style
mobile - the gear worked well - he had two antennas we could bounce
between - a screwdriver and a 20 meter ham stick.
35 Counties
1955 QSOs (1943 on CW)
20 hours...
Biggest QSOs county = Palm Beach @ 134 QSOs - 68 on 20 CW and 65 on 15 CW -
that was fun!
Average QSOs per county = 56
That's almost a hundred an hour average - thanks to everyone who
participated in the FQP, you made it fun for us guys big time!
The N4TO TOads made 2195 QSOs in 44 counties...incredable. between our two
efforts alone there were 4150 QSOs!!!!!
3830 reports keep coming in and it looks like we may have a record number of
county sweeps - including a QRP entrant and a European!
My special thanks to friend N4KM - we had a blast this weekend...if this
ain't what ham radio is about I dunno what it should be!
All of that said, one more thing....
363 Days til the next FQP, 2,003!
:-)
Jim, K4OJ
(+ N4KM ======> K4FCG/M)
>From frenaye at pcnet.com Mon Apr 29 14:30:57 2002
From: frenaye@pcnet.com (Tom Frenaye)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NEQP - a taste of New England
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020429125925.02405780@204.213.232.3 >
The activity in the FQP this past weekend will be tough to beat, but we're
going to give it a try in the New England QSO Party this next next weekend -
May 4th-5th. The full details and rules are at http://www.neqp.org/
We know of at least 200 people in New Eengland who will be active - and that
includes 13 mobiles, 3 portables and several on digital modes. One team even
plans to travel to new counties via small plane. All counties should be
covered (67 of them, the same as Florida...).
It looks like we may have a "clean sweep" of software support - CT by K1EA,
CQPWin by AE6Y, GenLog by W3KM, Logger by N1MM, NA by K8CC (not complete yet),
SD by EI5DI, TR by N6TR, Win-EQF by N3EQF, Writelog by W5XD (being tested
today). Paper logs OK also - the web site has forms for summary and log
sheets.
There are lots of reasons to operate in the NEQP, but K1DG says it best.
Check out the web site (http://www.neqp.org/) for "The Top Ten Reasons to
Operate the NEQP" The web site also has lots of other resources - list of
county abbreviations, county outline maps, list of home stations as well as
mobiles and where they plan to travel, and a list of NE county awards.
Certificates will be sent to everyone who makes at least 25 QSOs, plus there
are 19 plaques sponsored (so far), including one for the person who works a
"Clean Sweep - Not First, but Furthest", and one for the top score from
California/Nevada.
Oh yes, the reason the message subject says "a taste of New England" is that
we're going to send someone a lobster dinner for two, plus another 20 people
will receive some maple syrup or Ben & Jerry's ice cream.
-- Tom Frenaye/K1KI + Bob Hess/W1RH
(questions? --> info@neqp.org )
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
New England QSO Party - May 4-5, 2002 http://www.neqp.org
>From n5nj at verizon.net Mon Apr 29 13:50:25 2002
From: n5nj@verizon.net (n5nj@verizon.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Checks in SS
Message-ID: <20020429175025.IVMU8115.out016.verizon.net@out016>
Using 73 as your check will not help!
My check is 73 and I get asked for repeats of my check very often. I think
people don't trust that they've heard that commonly heard combination and have
to be certain that they are not miscopying it.
My guess is that a combination that is unusual that forces you to pay attention
will be copied more carefully.
1 A N5NJ 73 NTX
>
> From: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Checks in SS
>
> I really don't do much posting, but this thread is interesting. Who gives a
> fat rat's tail what the check is. Other than for data analysis, one check is
> as good as another. I have used 62 for years, but if the urge overcomes me,
> I may use 73, 88 or some other number.
> Is changing your check any different than "borrowing" a friend's desirable
> call or to have a secondary "club" desirable call where you are the
> trustee....especially for WPX? Check the latest claimed scores for WPX.
> Lots of once a year calls are in there from some big guns.
> Bill K4XS(SS)...aka WK4R(WPX)
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>From al_lorona at agilent.com Mon Apr 29 15:10:03 2002
From: al_lorona@agilent.com (LORONA,AL (A-USA,ex3))
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
Message-ID: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10DB@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
When I operated the (entire) SS with the 'bogus' check, I really didn't
think about whether it would be an advantage or a disadvantage. I thought it
would be a morally and contest-ually (sic) neutral decision. Did I break the
rules? Yes. But gaining a competitive edge wasn't one of the reasons I had
for changing my check. I just wanted to program my memory keyer with a
different number.
Somebody said that, primarily because of all of the master databases in use,
that doing so could actually have been detrimental due to the higher
potential for error on the part of the station 'copying' my exchange.
However, Leigh has turned the discussion toward the possibility of it being
an *advantage*, presumably because of my specifically using the check '55'
as the example. Leigh, please correct me if I am mis-reading your
statements.
If Leigh is saying what I think he's saying, and if we are going to stick
with a strict interpretation of the SS rules regarding the check then some
of us have built-in advantages that *can't be overcome by the others*. That
is, if you are one of the lucky 55ers, you will always have the advantage
over, say, a 91er. Interesting, huh?
There was no doubt in my mind when I did it that I was in violation of the
*letter* of the law. That's why I referred to the spirit of the law in my
original post. Perhaps the only regret I had was that I skewed the
statistics of those who like to glean information from all of the checks.
Yet, (as somebody has already pointed out) if I use my club call with its
check of '97', that certainly isn't indicative of my real age in the hobby.
That in itself is a skewing of the statistics, isn't it?
Because of the balanced arguments on both sides of this issue, I believe
that without thinking too much about it, the decision I made really was
close to neutral.
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Mon Apr 29 16:21:06 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Book
In-Reply-To: <20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>; from Mike Gilmer -
N2MG on Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 09:33:14AM -0800
References: <20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>
Message-ID: <20020429152106.Q12630@cs.utexas.edu>
Any news on a contesting book?
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Apr 29 21:01:27 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Breakdown - K4FCG/Mobile Multi-Single
Message-ID: <043d01c1efda$2d1a6ca0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
de K4OJ - hope this registers somewhat, formatting may get screwy - if
anyone wants the Excel version I will send it off reflector....anxious to
compare notes with the TO Twosome who had even more QSOs than we did - they
hit 9 more counties and made 250 more QSOs than we did - our computer and
paddle was smoking - theirs must have been on fire!
Initial breakdown stats
K4FCG/Mobile - K4OJ + N4KM - FQP 2002
CTY Total CW Q SSB Q
QSOs 40 20 15 10 40 20 15 10
ALC 53 48 5
BAK 44 44
BRA 54 54
CHA 62 61 1
CIT 44 44
CLA 27 27
CLM 56 56
CLR 62 47 14 1
DUV 58 58
FLG 48 44 4
GLA 58 37 21
HAM 64 59 4 1
HEN 74 39 34 1
HER 41 6 35
HIL 44 16 28
IDR 44 32 12
LEE 91 52 39
MAO 51 44 7
MRT 29 15 14
MTE 60 14 46
ORA 48 6 42
OSC 43 2 41
PAL 134 68 65 1
PAS 85 45 40
PIN 42 9 33
POL 64 64
PUT 88 76 11 1
SAR 55 8 47
SEM 36 29 7
STJ 39 37 2
STL 36 25 11
SUM 51 47 3 1
SUW 55 55
UNI 63 58 5
VOL 52 39 13
1955 Total
There were definately regional propagation trends - form FL we seemed to
land in the right places on 20 meters asd far as most QSOs to be had - even
though 15 was very solid to the West most of the crew out there was at the
Visalia convention I suspect!
CW
40 106
20 1571
15 265
10 1
SSB
40 0
20 11
15 1
10 0
cw=1943
ssb=12
1955/35 counties 56 QSO/CTY AVG
1955/20 hours 98 QSO/Hour Avg
Now for a good nights rest...again special thanks to running mate N4KM and
W1CW/W1YL for emotional and culinary support.
Jim, K4OJ
>From ah3c at frii.com Mon Apr 29 21:54:33 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Book
References: <20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>
<20020429152106.Q12630@cs.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <003a01c1eff2$5c5ce340$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Did you ever read Bill Zachary's great "Contest Cook Book"?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth E. Harker" <kharker@cs.utexas.edu>
To: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>; <wd3q@erols.com>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest Book
> Any news on a contesting book?
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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kharker@cs.utexas.edu
> University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign:
WM5R
> Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest
Club
> Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on
Laptops
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>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Tue Apr 30 09:23:50 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] bogus/dodgy spotting
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEAKDGAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
For those inclined to want to trace the source of
some of the questionable contest spots.....there
is a regular source of EU origin on CQDXirc, and
probably dxSummit. Today, he's using F0OL, and N0QRM,
and N1LID. The content makes it clear that he's in EU,
and that it's the same source for all three callsigns.
He's been at it for a solid hour or more, now.
There should be ample opportunity before contests to
track this guy down, if you have the capability.
n2ea
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 30 09:05:28 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Florida QSO Party - Claimed Scores 30Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204301505.g3UF5SM05245@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Florida QSO Party - Claimed Scores 30Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: FLQSOParty@aol.com
Mail logs to:
Florida QSO Party
c/o Ron Wetjen, WD4AHZ
5362 Castleman Dr.
Sarasota, FL 34232
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/SMixed HP
VE7FO 62 3 37 3 9 5,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/SMixed LP
NJ4M(@WD4AHZ) 447 642 63 70 20 408,576 Sarasota Emergency R
AD4ES 444 497 67 70 20 188,745 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
MobileCW LP
K1KI/M 28 7 20 7 1 3,402 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
MobileMixed LP
NF4A/M 953 189 446 139 20 159,932 Panama City ARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SchoolCW LP
K8GU 50 0 30 0 ~2 6,000 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SchoolMixed LP
W7UQ(KL9A) 90 47 43 26 4 29,964 WWYC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABCW HP
W4SO 693 0 87 0 120,582
VE1OP 259 0 67 0 17 34,706
K2SX 243 0 64 0 31,104 YCCC
GM3POI 230 0 67 0 30,820
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABCW LP
K8IR 319 0 66 0 18 84,216 BAY AREA WIRELESS
K5ZD 271 0 65 0 7 70,460 YCCC
NT6K 252 0 64 0 18 64,512 NCCC
W4AU 208 0 61 0 10 50,752 Loudoun ARG
W8RU 182 0 62 0 7 45,136 MRRC
K1KI 194 0 55 0 4 42,680 YCCC
NO5W 142 0 59 0 33,512
K5OT 170 0 64 0 21,760 SMC
K3FT 77 0 42 0 4 6,308 PVRC
AE9B 55 0 28 0 2 3,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed HP
W4SAA 485 456 67 69 20 193,936 SFDXA
HA1AG 220 110 0 0 59,950
K3WW 247 47 64 27 15 49,231 FRC
K6LA 142 152 55 41 12 41,856 SCCC
K4BAI 252 24 65 12 13 40,656 SECC
K5YAA 275 68 65 26 39,552 OkDX
W6KC 98 72 39 28 6 17,956
N2ED 96 59 40 20 5 15,060 FRC
KO7X(@KI7WX) 110 41 40 3 4 11,223 PVRC
K8DX 36 19 20 14 1 3,094 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed LP
N4PN 365 1646 67 121 20 893,376 Panama City ARC
K4FQP(K5KG) 679 467 74 65 20 507,350 FCG
N6MU(@N6NB) 367 228 66 55 20 232,804 SCCC
W8MJ 365 216 67 49 20 219,472 MRRC
N2CU 296 112 64 41 13 147,840 Western New York DX
NY1S 223 54 60 20 14 80,000
K5WO 259 83 66 0 16 79,332 NTCC
N4PK 58 340 0 0 75,696
W8CAR 140 61 49 29 10 53,196 MRRC
N9NE 206 72 61 27 11 48,928 Fond du Lac (WI)
K8MR 139 42 53 23 48,640 MRRC
N4CW 114 26 54 18 36,576
N8TC 104 41 50 22 35,856 Bay Area DXers
W9RE 153 60 58 29 31,929 SMC
K0OU 104 37 45 20 31,850 SMC
AE6Y 86 34 39 15 3 22,248 NCCC
NS3T 79 21 44 17 5 10,919
K5KA 46 6 5 29 2 6,664
AB2E 55 27 50 32 10 6,302 FRC
VE7SR(VE7TLL) 7 11 7 9 1 800
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 18 1 14 1 1 285
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed QRP
K5IID 239 75 66 34 15 165,900 MRRC
N0UR 278 60 63 21 16 155,232 MWA
K1RC 190 43 1140 129 102,789
W0ETT 116 54 0 0 9 17,446 Grand Mesa
4IU 88 31 43 16 13,865 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABSSB HP
K4XS 0 2278 0 124 20 282,472 FCG
VK2CZ 0 44 0 25 1,100
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABSSB LP
VE3BUC 0 89 0 33 4 2,937
KB9UWU 0 41 0 21 1 1,722 SMC
W1DAD 0 30 0 19 2 1,140 YCCC
W6ZZZ 0 19 0 11 209 NCCC
Operators:
AD4ES AD4ES,K9ES
NJ4M W1ROX,WD4AHZ
VE7FO VE7CX,VE7FO
>From jds at twistedoak.com Tue Apr 30 12:00:09 2002
From: jds@twistedoak.com (Jeff Stai)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Book
In-Reply-To: <20020429152106.Q12630@cs.utexas.edu>
References: <20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>
<20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020430105801.00a89ea0@mail.megapathdsl.net>
At 01:21 PM 4/29/2002, Kenneth E. Harker wrote:
> Any news on a contesting book?
well, I have started looking into it, and have been collecting info, but I
was daft enough to say I would do this and then (naturally) got deeply
involved in the start of a new business. Ergo, it is "standing by", as they
say... stay tuned - jeff wk6i
Jeff Stai Twisted Oak Winery LLC
Email jds@twistedoak.com
Amateur Radio WK6I
ROC Web Page http://www.rocstock.org/
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Tue Apr 30 21:14:55 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] bogus/dodgy spotting
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEAKDGAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <000b01c1f083$b25bd7b0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
If it is on #cqdx irc channel or dxsummit with a -@ after the call as I
believe all those probably are, then it is put into the system using the
web interface at dxsummit. I and others have tried to request the logs
that the page says they keep on ip addresses but so far have not gotten
any reply. If anyone know of a contact at that site please let me know,
otherwise it is a good anonymous hole for putting in garbage.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of jljarvis
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:24
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] bogus/dodgy spotting
>
>
> For those inclined to want to trace the source of
> some of the questionable contest spots.....there
> is a regular source of EU origin on CQDXirc, and
> probably dxSummit. Today, he's using F0OL, and N0QRM,
> and N1LID. The content makes it clear that he's in EU,
> and that it's the same source for all three callsigns.
> He's been at it for a solid hour or more, now.
>
> There should be ample opportunity before contests to
> track this guy down, if you have the capability.
>
> n2ea
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From k1ir at designet.com Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A little bit about chairs
Message-ID: <bvb2i8mrd58i0ds.300420021709@designet-jsi>
I was looking into office chairs today and found this interesting note about
office chair ergonomics. Thought you might find it useful.
http://www.tifaq.com/furniture/archive/chairs-apr96-brooks.txt
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From ve4xt at mts.net Tue Apr 30 20:46:05 2002
From: ve4xt@mts.net (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Bogus check
Message-ID: <008701c1f0a9$955fb020$0100a8c0@joe>
Hi all,
Forgive me, but I fail to see what all the hand-wringing is about...
I've always sent my "real" check (82), but only because when I first did SS
(in 83), that's what seemed logical and I've seen no reason to change it
since.
But never have I believed that the contest police would be banging down my
door if I used something different. Nobody seems to complain about the name
lottery that takes place with every NAQP (except of course CT users
frustrated that Nostradamus won't fit in the field provided (fittingly, TR
users never complained (I don't know if NA users complained, but I think
they're a bit more laid back anyway (and I've never met one of them WriteLog
guys, but I think they're OK)))).
Anyway, I just hope that if you think this is the kind of issue that will
bring the contest world to its knees, you'll give your head a shake. It just
ain't that important. No significant advantage is obtained (I mean, if
WD4AHZ wishes to use 55, I'm not going to complain) over any advantage
obtained by using the same check every year (for the database users).
When I did SS from WB0O in 1998, I used his check (the real one). It only
made sense, particularly given the database guys. I think my fill rate would
have gone way up had I not.
Kelly
ve4xt
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Mon Apr 1 00:21:39 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Popkin-Grams lurk!
In-Reply-To: <3CA67B10.720@erols.com>
References: <001601c1d755$bac8d340$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020401002004.02a1a770@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
At 21:57 03/30/02 -0500, Chuck K3FT wrote:
>but they are unique, none the less! :-)
I thought that unique meant rare, etc...
From what I hear these are not by any means rare!
73
Tom K5IID
>From khz at atnet.ru Mon Apr 1 05:48:54 2002
From: khz@atnet.ru (Serg Z. Demidov UA1OMS)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Tx-Rx Offset Standards
Message-ID: <00d001c1d920$dee03120$c4b35250@khz>
I also think that the reason of displacement signals is result of the
Doppler's effect. When I giving CQ almost all of the Japanese stations (from
east) calling a little bit above. In other hands almost all of US guys (from
west) are a little bit lower than my frequency.
73! Serg Z. Demidov UA1OMS
http://www.quadrat.ru/qsl
The all-too-obvious answer is the doppler effect caused by the rotation of
the earth, compressing any signal originating east of the U.S.--or should I
wait until Monday to bring this up?
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Silver Ward
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 11:12 AM
To: CONTEST REFLECTOR
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Tx-Rx Offset Standards
I was wondering if there is a different convention for offset standards.
We're all pretty much using the same radios but it seems unlikely that they
are pre-configured by the manufacturer to use different offsets based on the
target market. It's not much of a difference - maybe 200 Hz - but I find
myself leaving the RIT "up a little" when EU stations are answering my CQs.
How about it, EU guys? Is the converse true - that you have to listen a
little lower in frequency when running USA?
73, Ward N0AX
>From zf2nt at candw.ky Mon Apr 1 03:51:52 2002
From: zf2nt@candw.ky (Bruce B. Sawyer)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Dayton Bathtub
Message-ID: <000d01c1d930$95fb0c40$e575883f@ibm1050257>
>I don't snore, chew (anymore), or go with the girls that do.
Is 1 out of 3 good enough? I've got the same problem K7BG does...I think I
can find my way to Dayton OK (first go to SLC , then follow the sun for the
next three days, right?), but once I get there, then what? Anybody willing
to share a spot on the floor in their Crowne Plaza room? I don't snore, but
can't make any promises about the other two. Will gladly share
expenses...on the room. You gotta pull full freight on the other two,
though.
Bruce, ZF2NT
>From ab0mv at ix.netcom.com Mon Apr 1 09:45:36 2002
From: ab0mv@ix.netcom.com (Merri)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OFF Freq Callers
Message-ID: <Springmail.0994.1017683136.0.37526100@webmail.pas.earthlink.net>
And it seems quite a few people call YLs off frequency regardless of
continent/country.
Merri AB0MV
>From g.m.mcadams at worldnet.att.net Mon Apr 1 10:35:52 2002
From: g.m.mcadams@worldnet.att.net (Gary McAdams)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Message-ID: <00c301c1d9ac$5d282980$7ca2520c@computername>
Hello Guys,
I have a question about the WPX contest.
My call is WG7X and with this call, I always
thought that I would be a popular fellow in
the various WPX contests. This has not
been the case, ever, and I have participated
in quite a few of these tests.
Recent rules changes have made Q's on the
same continent worth at least one point, and
with my WG7 prefix I'm also a multiplier.
During the SSB test, I was S&P'in and many
stations said: Thanks for the mult!" and quite
a few gave me the unsolicited "big signal"
report. (DX and Domestic)
So, given that I have a fairly good signal, and
a weird call, I wonder why I could not get even a
small run going? S&P got me to about 350 q's
(and almost every one a new mult) but I could not
get any answers to my CQ's...
Should I expect to be sought out as a needed
multiplier, or continue to participate in my normal
way in the S&P mode? W7's are literally a dime
a dozen and I've always thought that the WPX offered
myself and others a way to be popular, if only
for a short time.
Thoughts?
Gary, WG7X
>From w8ji at contesting.com Mon Apr 1 16:06:28 2002
From: w8ji@contesting.com (Tom Rauch)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Tx-Rx Offset Standards
In-Reply-To: <00d001c1d920$dee03120$c4b35250@khz>
Message-ID: <3CA88584.1369.44DE010@localhost>
> I also think that the reason of displacement signals is result of the
> Doppler's effect. When I giving CQ almost all of the Japanese stations
> (from east) calling a little bit above. In other hands almost all of
> US guys (from west) are a little bit lower than my frequency.
Hi Sege,
I am not sure if you are serious, but this is the day we have for
jokes in the USA. In case anyone takes that serious, it was not.
The earth could rotate 10,000 miles per second, and there would
be no doppler effect.
Doppler only occurs when the path length is changing, not when
the path is moving but staying exactly the same distance.
It could be more a culture thing, that USA operators listen to lower
pitched tones more often than JA, or vice versa. But it is definitely
not earth rotation. Thank goodness, or WWV frequency standards
would not work, and the AM BC band would be full of heterodynes.
73, Tom W8JI
W8JI@contesting.com
>From tomek at sp5zcc.waw.pl Tue Apr 2 12:00:05 2002
From: tomek@sp5zcc.waw.pl (SP5UAF)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SP DX Contest
Message-ID: <19210028770.20020402120005@sp5zcc.waw.pl>
Hello,
I would like to let you know about SP DX Contest. This year event will
take place during the coming weekend (every year the first weekend of
April).
Please visit SP DX Contest WWW
http://www.sp5zcc.waw.pl/spdxc/
There you can find all necessary information: rules, special awards,
contest logging software, information about Polish awards, result from
previous years etc.
Contest rules are published in many language versions (Polish,
English, German, French, Portuguese, Spanih, Norwich and even
Chinese).
We do hope to meet all of you in the SP DX Contest 2002.
73
Tom SP5UAF
(responsible for SP DX Contest WWW)
>From n4zr at contesting.com Tue Apr 2 08:48:33 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Recording software with AGC
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020402084424.0505e020@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
I've gotten my second shack PC set up, so I'm now prepared to record
contests to disk, but I'm encountering one issue. To record everything
that comes from both radios (2 channels in the Mark 5, one in the TS-930) I
think I need to get the audio in stereo at the headphone jack of my 2-radio
box and then combine the two streams into one recording channel. The
combining is no problem, but if I do that, I will have to contend with
varying audio levels.
I'm wondering if anyone knows of a piece of recording software that
implements AGC, or how others get around this issue?
Thanks!
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Tue Apr 2 14:37:09 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020402133709.012cabe0@pop.vnet.net>
WG7X wrote:
>Should I expect to be sought out as a needed
multiplier, or continue to participate in my normal
way in the S&P mode? W7's are literally a dime
a dozen and I've always thought that the WPX offered
myself and others a way to be popular, if only
for a short time.
Gary, your prefix is rare but not rare enough, hi!
Serious SOAB or SOSB WPX contesters will get ~1000 prefixes
in this contest, so one more prefix will only add 1/1000 or
0.1% to their score. As long as conditions allow running
stations at fairly high rates (say 70 or higher), most guys
will simply run and let the prefix multipliers come to them.
The only time I ever tune for stations in this contest is
when rates drop below what I think is a reasonable rate.
In CQWW or ARRL DX, multipliers are worth much more than in
WPX since there are fewer of them. I'm sure the SO2R guys in
WPX were looking for you, but there were just not enough for
you to notice it.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n5nj at gte.net Tue Apr 2 10:09:31 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (n5nj@gte.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Message-ID: <RELAY2Ky8pnidKrlVKv000011ec@relay2.softcomca.com>
Gary,
The answer to your question is not a simple one. There are many factors that
contribute to a station being heard and able to attract many callers.
I know that I remarked to several stations during this past weekend's contest
that they had great signals - but you have to understand the reference points.
The reference points are those stations barely at the noise level and are very
difficult to copy. At times, a station that you can hear clearly, even if he's
S2 or less can have a "big signal". It's all relative.
Now, look at your station. Are you running an amplifier? What kind of
antennas do you have? Directional? Vertical? Dipoles? Those guys you hear
that are 40 over S9 at your place are running stacked yagis and legal limit
amplifiers. Are you?
Next, are you aware of your surroundings? What I mean here is do you know who
is above & below your frequency? Could they be covering you up and you don't
realize it? Is there a pileup on a nearby frequency that you might not be able
to hear both sides of?
If you don't have one of the big stations and want to get a run going, you must
isolate your signal from all of those big gun stations. To make your signal
stand out, find smaller stations to set up near. This is not as easy to
actually do as it is to describe it here, but the ability to gauge the
surroundings is an acquired skill - you almost have to have a "feel" for what's
going on. You also have to have excellent equipment that is working perfectly.
You receiver must be very sensitive and you have to be able to discern weak
signals. I'm not talking about working weak stations, I'm talking about
hearing what's going on around your chosen frequency.
Think about the above comments, and continue the discussion.
73,
Bob N5NJ
Original Message:
-----------------
From: Gary McAdams g.m.mcadams@worldnet.att.net
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Hello Guys,
I have a question about the WPX contest.
My call is WG7X and with this call, I always
thought that I would be a popular fellow in
the various WPX contests. This has not
been the case, ever, and I have participated
in quite a few of these tests.
Recent rules changes have made Q's on the
same continent worth at least one point, and
with my WG7 prefix I'm also a multiplier.
During the SSB test, I was S&P'in and many
stations said: Thanks for the mult!" and quite
a few gave me the unsolicited "big signal"
report. (DX and Domestic)
So, given that I have a fairly good signal, and
a weird call, I wonder why I could not get even a
small run going? S&P got me to about 350 q's
(and almost every one a new mult) but I could not
get any answers to my CQ's...
Should I expect to be sought out as a needed
multiplier, or continue to participate in my normal
way in the S&P mode? W7's are literally a dime
a dozen and I've always thought that the WPX offered
myself and others a way to be popular, if only
for a short time.
Thoughts?
Gary, WG7X
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 2 07:11:24 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 02Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020402071039.00ad8da0@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 02Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to: (see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(BR)AB LP
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOAB LP
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
K5PI(@W5KFT) 918 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
Operators:
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EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
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LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
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NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 2 07:14:18 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 02Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020402071241.00adba30@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 02Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to: (see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA M/S HP
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
Operators:
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From kl7ra at blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov Tue Apr 2 08:30:43 2002
From: kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov (KL7RA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Message-ID: <03bf01c1da6c$1ede68e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
Gary writes:
>My call is WG7X and with this call, I always
>thought that I would be a popular fellow in
>the various WPX contests. This has not
>been the case, ever, and I have participated
>in quite a few of these tests.
Hi Gary
The problem is the WPX is a rate contest and most of
the serious stations are calling CQ. The other problem
is there are a lot of prefixes in this contest so the single
op has little incentive to search them out.
Here's what to do:
Wait until late Sunday to operate. If no other WG7 prefix
has been active you will be swapped by the M/M, M/S
stations after the first spot. And they will be loud, tired
and hungry.
Good luck.
73 Rich KL7RA
>From n2mg at contesting.com Tue Apr 2 10:30:37 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OFF Freq Callers
Message-ID:
<20020402103038.20183.c002-h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
I think many of them get flustered at the prospect of
actually talking to a girl!
73 Mike N2MG
On Mon, 01 April 2002, Merri wrote
> And it seems quite a few people call YLs off
> frequency regardless of continent/country.
>
> Merri AB0MV
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Tue Apr 2 14:54:58 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
References: <200204021703.g32H3UAl018918@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <031501c1da84$1d63c2e0$03010a0a@office1>
Gary,
I think the short answer is that now that almost every US prefix possible is
available (with the exception of the KP/NP/WP blocks from 6 thru 0, as I
don't think any of the old old Palmyra KP6 calls are still QRV), no one
prefix stands out from all of the others.
Trust me -- I miss the days when WN3 was a super-rare prefix in the contest!
Someone will always be needing us for mults, but because of the
preponderance of US mults, few will be actively looking for us specifically,
so plan your future strategy accordingly.
I also spent almost all of my limited time this weekend on S&P, and I'm
satisfied with my score (350 Q's, over 250K points), all things
considered -- especially since it was barefoot with verticals.
And no Popkin-grams to date, but the week is yet young...
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
From: "Gary McAdams" <g.m.mcadams@worldnet.att.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Question
Hello Guys,
I have a question about the WPX contest.
My call is WG7X and with this call, I always
thought that I would be a popular fellow in
the various WPX contests. This has not
been the case, ever, and I have participated
in quite a few of these tests.
Recent rules changes have made Q's on the
same continent worth at least one point, and
with my WG7 prefix I'm also a multiplier.
During the SSB test, I was S&P'in and many
stations said: Thanks for the mult!" and quite
a few gave me the unsolicited "big signal"
report. (DX and Domestic)
So, given that I have a fairly good signal, and
a weird call, I wonder why I could not get even a
small run going? S&P got me to about 350 q's
(and almost every one a new mult) but I could not
get any answers to my CQ's...
Should I expect to be sought out as a needed
multiplier, or continue to participate in my normal
way in the S&P mode? W7's are literally a dime
a dozen and I've always thought that the WPX offered
myself and others a way to be popular, if only
for a short time.
Thoughts?
Gary, WG7X
--__--__--
>From windev at inetmarket.com Tue Apr 2 17:07:09 2002
From: windev@inetmarket.com (Gerry Hull)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NAB -> See you there.
Message-ID: <20020402170356.B5C7.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Hi,
Looking forward to meeting fellow contesters at the
NAB ham gettogether next Wednesday...
73, Gerry Hull, W1VE/VE1RM
(Oh, National Association of Broadcasters covention in Vegas, for
those who are wondering.)
Hull Computer Consulting
POB C, Greenfield, NH
Home Office: 603-547-8327
Voice Mail/Fax: 866-823-5473
email: windev@inetmarket.com
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Wed Apr 3 00:51:47 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020403004236.00d8b650@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
Gosh guys, just because I don't have multiple towers, antennas, rigs,
and/or the money to buy them doesn't mean that I am not a serious
contester. Even in the WPX. I love this "sport" and will keep doing it
till I can't do it anymore.
But the question I have always wondered is, is everybody is running,
how are you getting the Q's.
I made possibly 15 Q's this wekend via "running", it was more like a
very slow walk, and I wound up with over 1k Q's and 1.3 million points.
So you should thank us S&P ops and not belittle them(us) by intimating
that we are not serious ops. Absolutely we are serious, and if we weren't
you would have much fewer Q's in the log.
Some people drive Porsches and some of us drive Fords or whatever.
That doesn't mean we can't get to work on time.
73, Tom K5IID
>From david.e.burger at au.pwcglobal.com Wed Apr 3 13:04:43 2002
From: david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com (david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] KT6RU, and odd callsigns VK8AA and 80/75m
Message-ID: <OF33D3F58C.9F20E7C2-ONCA256B90.000F8295@aap.pwcinternal.com>
Dan, you were loud on 40m - but it looked like I worked a few stateside 40m
QRP'ers there as well !
Regarding oddball callsigns (like VK8AA), the real money is on a 6 pointer
and a new mult in one hit, but I cannot access spotting systems where I
operate, so its very much like Rich's comments - just work them and the
mults follow. This was my first serious attempt on 160/80 and 40m...
2003 antenna sketch's are already complete !!
I don't frequent 80/75 outside contests, but as our little 5Khz VK/NA SSB
window was 'busy', getting people to listen down to 3699 for me was a
challenge. Is there a split contest protocol on 80/75 in place like 40m ?
I worked about 10% of what I heard on 80/75, even though US sigs were
10over or more. My wideband 80m antenna was 40m off the ground and 30m
from the beach and seemed to work OK.
David VK8AA
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>From yt3t at absolutok.net Wed Apr 3 12:17:46 2002
From: yt3t@absolutok.net (Kele YT3T)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Economics of Contest QSLing
Message-ID: <008201c1daf8$d0f75820$9de45d50@pentium>
Hi everyone,
as a perrennial QSL designer and printer, I am curious to check if anyone
would be interested to use the following service:
1. Sending QSO data files via email to YU1AO
2. Approving proposed QSL card design and cost
3. Sending funds for the service
4. Having QSLs printed, filled and shipped to bureaus and managers.
This way, many of you can save time and complications, some ink for the
printer... Please note, this is one way process, I am not offering to handle
cards received from bureau/mgrs. Only transmitt. The only paper I am ready
to receive (for this time, in this matter) are your funds.
There are some people who like my designs and prints, and as I am building
(finally) a contest station on the hilltop, additional service is a must, to
make everyone happy :-)
Yes, one must trust that the job will be done honestly as agreed, and that
is probably the main disadvantage of this proposal, but as an ambitious
contester I take a risk to be blamed in the contest community, whatever I
do, and that is just a bit more valuable to me than required pennies.
Please send me your opinions on this subject.
73s
Kele
YU1AO, YT3T, N2KAB
email to yt3t@absolutok.net
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Wed Apr 3 16:14:44 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Yesterdaaaaay
Message-ID: <014101c1db22$4a69c020$5017be3f@bigguy>
The Beatles - Loss Of Logbook (To the tune of "Yesterday")
Yesterday,
All those backups seemed a waste of pay.
Now my log has gone away.
Oh I believe in yesterday.
Suddenly,
There's not half the Q's there used to be,
And log submission's hanging over me.
Oh CT crashed so suddenly.
I pushed something wrong,
What it was, I could not say.
Now my Q's have gone and I long
for yesterday-ay-ay-ay.
Yesterday,
The need for back-ups seemed so far away.
I knew my Cabrillo was here to stay,
Now I believe in yesterday.
(???) 73, de Hans, K0HB
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Wed Apr 3 11:18:07 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <003901c1db33$85fb0480$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
So what do other people think about eQSL.cc change of policy?
The main page of the web site now says:
"We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of our
InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have confirmed."
So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and who by
law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL out of
courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I have
faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc -- now you
are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It seems
that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able to
respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not even be
able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From hamradio at earthlink.net Wed Apr 3 09:49:03 2002
From: hamradio@earthlink.net (Vincent Walton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Address for D44DD?
Message-ID: <41200243317493120@earthlink.net>
I worked a D44DD in the CQ WW WPX contest last weekend, anyone have an
address for this call?
Thanks
--- Vince, K6BIR
--- hamradio@earthlink.net
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Wed Apr 3 12:54:38 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
References: <200204031702.g33H2aAl007367@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <04fe01c1db39$2b909900$03010a0a@office1>
Tom,
I'm not sure where you're coming from. When I say that I'm not "serious" in
a contest, that only means that I'm out there to hand out Q's, usually S&P,
for the benefit of other operators. It's a recognition that my interest in
a high score in that particular contest isn't there, for whatever reason.
Maybe my equipment's not up to snuff due to my location. But usually it's
because I have limited time to devote to that particular contest due to
time, work, family, or other neccesary tasks & obligations.
A contest I'll take "seriously" is one where I am planning a strategy in an
effort to place highly or even win. For example, I put a "serious" effort
into ARRL DX Phone this year and did very well for myself. Most years I put
a "serious" effort into the PA QSO Party, either for myself and/or my
club -- I've helped out a lot behind the scenes the last few years with the
club efforts and we're getting some really good contesters out of the
effort. And so on.
So saying that I'm not "serious" is not by any means belittling nor should
it be interpreted as such. It's just an indication of how hard I worked at
it. I sure wish I could put a serious effort into most of the major
contests, it's just not possible right now.
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
From: Tom Horton <k5iid@ntelos.net>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
Gosh guys, just because I don't have multiple towers, antennas, rigs,
and/or the money to buy them doesn't mean that I am not a serious
contester. Even in the WPX. I love this "sport" and will keep doing it
till I can't do it anymore.
But the question I have always wondered is, is everybody is running,
how are you getting the Q's.
I made possibly 15 Q's this wekend via "running", it was more like a
very slow walk, and I wound up with over 1k Q's and 1.3 million points.
So you should thank us S&P ops and not belittle them(us) by intimating
that we are not serious ops. Absolutely we are serious, and if we weren't
you would have much fewer Q's in the log.
Some people drive Porsches and some of us drive Fords or whatever.
That doesn't mean we can't get to work on time.
73, Tom K5IID
>From dhenderson at arrl.org Wed Apr 3 14:15:24 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2001 ARRL Ten Meter Contest Logs Received
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B7687@KAHLESS>
The list of Logs Received for the 2001 ARRL Ten Meter Contest has been
posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
If you find an error in your listing, or if your listing is missing, please
contact me at n1nd@arrl.org. Please have your receipt number available if
you submitted electronically.
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From dhenderson at arrl.org Wed Apr 3 14:55:33 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Logs Received posted for 2001 ARRL 160-Meter Contest
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B7688@KAHLESS>
The list of Logs Received for the 2001 ARRL 160-Meter Contest has been
posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
If you find an error in your listing, or if your listing is missing, please
contact me at n1nd@arrl.org. Please have your receipt number available if
you submitted electronically.
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Wed Apr 3 20:07:17 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
In-Reply-To: <04fe01c1db39$2b909900$03010a0a@office1>
References: <200204031702.g33H2aAl007367@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020403200113.00c84b00@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
Ron,
I agree with you.
What I was getting at is that apparently some folks think that
if you are not a big gun and don't get over 1000 prefixes in
the WPX contest, then you are not a serious contester.
I've been contesting probably as long as most anyone on this
reflector and a heck of a lot more than most that are here.
No, I have never won a big contest nationally , but I do and have
won my section several times over the years. I've placed in the
Top Ten in a few. So to intimate that, since I only got 523 prefixes
last weekend, I am not a serious contester I really don't
think is accurate.
That's all I was saying.
73, Tom K5IID
At 12:54 04/03/02 -0500, Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
>Tom,
>
>I'm not sure where you're coming from. When I say that I'm not "serious" in
>a contest, that only means that I'm out there to hand out Q's, usually S&P,
>for the benefit of other operators. It's a recognition that my interest in
>a high score in that particular contest isn't there, for whatever reason.
>Maybe my equipment's not up to snuff due to my location. But usually it's
>because I have limited time to devote to that particular contest due to
>time, work, family, or other neccesary tasks & obligations.
>
>A contest I'll take "seriously" is one where I am planning a strategy in an
>effort to place highly or even win. For example, I put a "serious" effort
>into ARRL DX Phone this year and did very well for myself. Most years I put
>a "serious" effort into the PA QSO Party, either for myself and/or my
>club -- I've helped out a lot behind the scenes the last few years with the
>club efforts and we're getting some really good contesters out of the
>effort. And so on.
>
>So saying that I'm not "serious" is not by any means belittling nor should
>it be interpreted as such. It's just an indication of how hard I worked at
>it. I sure wish I could put a serious effort into most of the major
>contests, it's just not possible right now.
>
>73, ron wn3vaw
>
>"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
>
>-- The Firesign Theatre
>
>----- Original Message -----
>To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>From: Tom Horton <k5iid@ntelos.net>
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
>
>Gosh guys, just because I don't have multiple towers, antennas, rigs,
>and/or the money to buy them doesn't mean that I am not a serious
>contester. Even in the WPX. I love this "sport" and will keep doing it
>till I can't do it anymore.
>But the question I have always wondered is, is everybody is running,
>how are you getting the Q's.
> I made possibly 15 Q's this wekend via "running", it was more like a
>very slow walk, and I wound up with over 1k Q's and 1.3 million points.
>So you should thank us S&P ops and not belittle them(us) by intimating
>that we are not serious ops. Absolutely we are serious, and if we weren't
>you would have much fewer Q's in the log.
>Some people drive Porsches and some of us drive Fords or whatever.
>That doesn't mean we can't get to work on time.
>73, Tom K5IID
>
>
>
>
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>From a.annesi at libero.it Wed Apr 3 22:10:34 2002
From: a.annesi@libero.it (Alberto Annesi - IV3TAN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: R: [CQ-Contest] Address for D44DD?
References: <41200243317493120@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <003a01c1db4b$9d5f8e80$9c3e1997@m1f8y5>
Hi Vince,
we was active during the last WPX SSB with D44TD Callsign.
The qsl manager is CT1EKF.
73
de IV3TAN (D44TC and one of D44TD)
----- Original Message -----
From: Vincent Walton <hamradio@earthlink.net>
To: CQ Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Cc: Contest Reflector <contest@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:00 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Address for D44DD?
> I worked a D44DD in the CQ WW WPX contest last weekend, anyone have an
> address for this call?
> Thanks
>
> --- Vince, K6BIR
> --- hamradio@earthlink.net
>
>
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>From k1ir at designet.com Wed Apr 3 20:37:06 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <s1h8xf5bc0ebapn.030420022037@designet-jsi>
Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we can
call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the point? If
you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We submit the
information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review their
logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one, but I
don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks are off
by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line QSL - no
QSO - and no way to track it.
What do the DXCC Rules say?
"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply, written
proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be submitted
directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . . Staff may
accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
and,
"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call signs of
both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and date, time
and band."
For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new double-blind
confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic QSLing.
It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure to get
them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether printed or
electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL DXCC
policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From K4tmc at aol.com Wed Apr 3 21:03:12 2002
From: K4tmc@aol.com (K4tmc@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April CQ arrives
Message-ID: <c9.20099b03.29dd0e60@aol.com>
Front cover photo of W0GG in his neat shack with details of his station
inside.
Contest related items:
Results - 2001 CQ WW WPX CW Contest
The (Golden) Triangle of Contesting in Poland
Contesting - CQ's 2002 Contest Survey
Propagation - Cycle 23 is Dying (Not)
Our Readers Say - Limit Contesting Frequencies (letter)
Other interesting items:
Zero Bias (editorial) - Lobbying 101
Public Service - President Bush Praises Hams, Calls for More Volunteering
The Impact of Solar Storms on World Economies and the Birth of A New
Commodities Trading Technique (remember what month this is)
The Heyday of CW at Sea, Part II, A radio Operator's Life at Sea
Reader Survey - questions about antenna restriction experiences
Make Your Mobile Mic "Hands Free"
Softbrewing a Logbook, A Primer For Database Design
World of Ideas - Keys 2002, New, Old, and Always Terrific!, Part II
QRP - More Build'em Notes and FT-817 Tips
DX - Getting the DX, Keep Your Cool and Listen!
VHF Plus - Sunspots: Downhill? Not So Fast!
Ads:
Sorry, no ad for the "new" series of Mark-V FT-1000MP Marine, Aeronautical,
Silver, Gold, etc. rigs? maybe next April!
73 & High Rates,
Henry Pollock - K4TMC
Raleigh, NC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 3 19:46:34 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 03Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204040346.g343kYt04764@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 03Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
A new era has begun for producing contest summaries. In the past, it
would be neccessary for individuals to collect and format the data
at periodic intervals and then mail out the results. The Web Submission form by
Bruce/WA7BNM was a big improvement as it allowed the data to be parsed and
imported by software. The next logical leap is to have a database itself
produce reports and we are close to that that point. The data being input into
the Web Submission pages is going into a database and reports can be produced
at whim. All the WPX reports including this one have been generated from that
database. The possibilities are endless. For now, while the system gets
fine-tuned and Bruce refines the system, I will continue sending
out the summaries as e-mail. We hope you will continue your fine tradition of
comments and input.
One downside, if you don't use the Web-page submission forms, it's really going
to be hard to show your results in the summaries. For now, Bruce is manually
inputting that data but it's slow and demanding process and probably not
something that can go on for long. This doesn't mean you can't post your own
results to 3830, it just means that they will be delayed for now and may not
get into summaries in the future. It's a lot of work to manually input contest
data and a job I have seriously been considering giving up. Now that the
technology is available to make that job unneccesary, I really implore that you
use the Web-page submission forms IF you want to be in the summaries.
best
dink
comments can be sent to mwdink@eskimo.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(BR)AB LP
WN6K 859 435 29:45 723,405 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
K5PI(@W5KFT) 918 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX(DON) 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM3GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 3 19:47:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 03Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204040347.g343lZ404773@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 03Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
A new era has begun for producing contest summaries. In the past, it
would be neccessary for individuals to collect and format the data
at periodic intervals and then mail out the results. The Web Submission form by
Bruce/WA7BNM was a big improvement as it allowed the data to be parsed and
imported by software. The next logical leap is to have a database itself
produce reports and we are close to that that point. The data being input into
the Web Submission pages is going into a database and reports can be produced
at whim. All the WPX reports including this one have been generated from that
database. The possibilities are endless. For now, while the system gets
fine-tuned and Bruce refines the system, I will continue sending
out the summaries as e-mail. We hope you will continue your fine tradition of
comments and input.
One downside, if you don't use the Web-page submission forms, it's really going
to be hard to show your results in the summaries. For now, Bruce is manually
inputting that data but it's slow and demanding process and probably not
something that can go on for long. This doesn't mean you can't post your own
results to 3830, it just means that they will be delayed for now and may not
get into summaries in the future. It's a lot of work to manually input contest
data and a job I have seriously been considering giving up. Now that the
technology is available to make that job unneccesary, I really implore that you
use the Web-page submission forms IF you want to be in the summaries.
best
dink
comments can be sent to mwdink@eskimo.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM3GU(@FM5GU) 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 @12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P 1384 599 36 2,479,860
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM3GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Apr 4 05:05:53 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
Message-ID: <006801c1db8e$09a48360$042bfa43@computer>
Quack's
Along with Tom, A serious contestor can work vy hard at it and still not
break 1000 PX , I could have done an all band effort but that is a bit much
as one rapidly approacches bit 70. I did manage 566 on Ten meters only and
had condx not crashed on Saturday, maybe 800 or so. I think that I'm a
serious contestor and have seldom been the big score in any of the DX
contest and Usually not even the top 10. Some could be to do with physical
location. eg: WWA , this just doesn't
make for big time scores where major mults from EU are not easy to get thru
the Aluminum of W1 thru W5, I heard numerious W0 call area stns wrking EU
that were just a trace here. I would recommend that there are many ways to
be serious, Always try to better previous scores , however rember that
conditions play a very big part. The main thing is to have that first 4
hrs of 130 plus average. or manage to dig 100 plus countries from a band .
W4ZV always puts 20 to 40 more 10 M countries in his log than I can manage.
No big deal he has a 40 DB advantage with Location and Antennas. I still
have fun.
CU all In the Next One
Quack aka;Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Horton" <k5iid@ntelos.net>
To: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 21:07
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
> Ron,
> I agree with you.
> What I was getting at is that apparently some folks think that
> if you are not a big gun and don't get over 1000 prefixes in
> the WPX contest, then you are not a serious contester.
> I've been contesting probably as long as most anyone on this
> reflector and a heck of a lot more than most that are here.
> No, I have never won a big contest nationally , but I do and have
> won my section several times over the years. I've placed in the
> Top Ten in a few. So to intimate that, since I only got 523 prefixes
> last weekend, I am not a serious contester I really don't
> think is accurate.
> That's all I was saying.
> 73, Tom K5IID
>
>
>
>
> At 12:54 04/03/02 -0500, Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
> >Tom,
> >
> >I'm not sure where you're coming from. When I say that I'm not "serious"
in
> >a contest, that only means that I'm out there to hand out Q's, usually
S&P,
> >for the benefit of other operators. It's a recognition that my interest
in
> >a high score in that particular contest isn't there, for whatever reason.
> >Maybe my equipment's not up to snuff due to my location. But usually
it's
> >because I have limited time to devote to that particular contest due to
> >time, work, family, or other neccesary tasks & obligations.
> >
> >A contest I'll take "seriously" is one where I am planning a strategy in
an
> >effort to place highly or even win. For example, I put a "serious"
effort
> >into ARRL DX Phone this year and did very well for myself. Most years I
put
> >a "serious" effort into the PA QSO Party, either for myself and/or my
> >club -- I've helped out a lot behind the scenes the last few years with
the
> >club efforts and we're getting some really good contesters out of the
> >effort. And so on.
> >
> >So saying that I'm not "serious" is not by any means belittling nor
should
> >it be interpreted as such. It's just an indication of how hard I worked
at
> >it. I sure wish I could put a serious effort into most of the major
> >contests, it's just not possible right now.
> >
> >73, ron wn3vaw
> >
> >"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
> >
> >-- The Firesign Theatre
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> >From: Tom Horton <k5iid@ntelos.net>
> >Subject: [CQ-Contest] politically correct
> >
> >Gosh guys, just because I don't have multiple towers, antennas, rigs,
> >and/or the money to buy them doesn't mean that I am not a serious
> >contester. Even in the WPX. I love this "sport" and will keep doing it
> >till I can't do it anymore.
> >But the question I have always wondered is, is everybody is running,
> >how are you getting the Q's.
> > I made possibly 15 Q's this wekend via "running", it was more like a
> >very slow walk, and I wound up with over 1k Q's and 1.3 million points.
> >So you should thank us S&P ops and not belittle them(us) by intimating
> >that we are not serious ops. Absolutely we are serious, and if we weren't
> >you would have much fewer Q's in the log.
> >Some people drive Porsches and some of us drive Fords or whatever.
> >That doesn't mean we can't get to work on time.
> >73, Tom K5IID
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Wed Apr 3 23:48:05 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
K1IR's post disappoints me.
Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and why is always
the ARRL which is at fault?
Why is ARRL once again being blamed for the conniptions of the 2002 Keystone
Kops over at eQSL, who are ready to sell you a QSL card but can't grasp the
concept that they're acting as a (questionably ethical) QSL manager in the
process? Further, since my understanding (from those involved in the LotW
project) that it's eQSL that chose not to be compatible with LotW or anyone
else, why is anyone else being blamed for anything they do in their own
little world?
If you don't log a QSO and forget to fill out or send a card, and have no
way of following up on it later because of a lack of a log entry (mobile,
portable or otherwise) who's fault is this and why is this blame now being
assigned to LotW which is still a work in progress?
Where is it written that Logbook of the World is going to eliminate the
current use and acceptance of printed QSL cards when everything I have seen
& read to date indicates otherwise?
And most importantly Jim, answer us this: If you think this is a step in
the wrong direction, then what would you have them do? And how would you
make it work? It's easy to crticize and assign blame. You don't care for
the solution? Then what would you do?
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Organization: DesigNET International
Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we can
call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the point?
If
you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We submit
the
information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review
their
logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one, but
I
don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks are
off
by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line QSL -
no
QSO - and no way to track it.
What do the DXCC Rules say?
"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply,
written
proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be submitted
directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . . Staff may
accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
and,
"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call signs
of
both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and date,
time
and band."
For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new double-blind
confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic QSLing.
It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure to
get
them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether printed
or
electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL DXCC
policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 3 21:30:36 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW 160 SSB - Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020403213017.00a153f0@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 CQWW 160 SSB - Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: March 31.2002
E-mail logs to: cq160@kkn.net
Mail logs to: (none, CQ has asked that all logs be e-mailed)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
3830 archives - http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
DX Multi-Op LP
SN8V @SP8YMM 64 0 30 9,810
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
DX Multi-Op HP
KG4DZ 3430 3,231,060
XE1RCS 747 53 27 301,840
EI7M 546 29 44 248,500
4O6A @YT6A 550 18 52 221,600
G3UEG 417 20 51 20 166,700
DL2DBH (DJ9DZ) 312 9 45 17 82,836
M0ABC 376 7 44 1,791
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
DX SO LP
P40A (KK9A) 114 33 7 44,080
IK8HCG 190 3 40 39,474
V31AH (W0AH) 239 39 15 14 32,076
SP9BQJ 152 1 40 31,119 SPDXCLUB
OH6NIO 131 0 35 22,820 CONTEST CLUB FINLAND
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
DX SO HP
OT2T (ON4UN) 704 32 57 398,097
SV8CS 664 19 57 270,028
OH0NL 454 6 52 141,346 CONTEST CLUB FINLAND
LY2FY 433 7 20 141,215 KTU RC
RU6LA 363 2 55 14 109,098
LY2TA @LY7Z 114 10 41 4 33,864
G3SVL 66 6 29 4 12,985
RW4PL 51 32 1 8,320
XE2AC 23 8 3 3 1,221
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
USA/VE Multi-Op HP
N8TR 1068 58 32 33 234,000
VE3DC 674 54 10 209,536
AA4V 580 52 30 8 118,080
AA1K 531 51 28 11 113,602
WD5R 702 54 16 24 109,550
N7GP @W7MCO 608 54 12 24 89,100
NZ1U @KB1H 345 48 25 69,861
K3WW 482 46 12 12 66,758
K3OO 219 17 38 32,285
K3OOO 159 34 6 14,720
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
USA/VE SO QRP
W0ETC 341 50 3 38,531
KR0B (KS0T) 287 50 3 12 33,125
VA3TTT 104 28 1 14,558
WB6BWZ 38 17 0 1,292
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
USA/VE SO LP
VA3RU 478 54 12 154,572
K1PX 773 57 10 24 115,106
AC0W 518 53 7 14 68,640
W1CTN 326 51 16 16 53,868
K0UK 328 51 4 40,700 GRAND MESA
W3LL 288 42 5 23 29,093
AA1UT 206 39 2 21 18,614
K1JT 172 37 6 10 16,684
N8PY 128 123 5 8 11,560
W3MF 139 34 2 3 11,088
N1LW 84 33 3 7,092
W8DRZ 68 30 0 8 4,040
VE3RCN 42 20 3,900
KW8W 70 22 1 4 3,278
N4CW 50 26 0 2,834
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's NA DX Hr Score Club
USA/VE SO HP
VA3KA @VE3QAA 717 57 30 317,898
W4MYA 1177 58 41 27 306,603
VE3PN 680 56 30 22 297,818
WB9Z 1409 58 31 27 297,171
N4UK 1022 57 34 232,232
N3HBX 889 56 24 173,760
K9NR 952 57 19 164,236
K4JNY 838 54 21 143,775
K3NM 677 56 20 124,336
K0DU 739 54 14 25 112,880
W5PR 656 52 20 112,104
NX9T 696 52 17 108,261
K8DX 477 48 25 96,944
K2UOP 602 52 10 13 82,522
W3GH 406 52 17 67,896
K1GU 422 43 10 50,668
N8KM 375 46 12 50,228
AC8G 299 51 10 10 42,212
AA4NC 300 42 15 41,838
K0EJ 400 44 4 40,800
KO7X @KI7WX 313 49 6 4 37,840
VE6JY 156 46 2 35,712
KG7H 274 51 4 14 33,440
N6RO 211 51 6 27,645
K4BAI 207 42 5 18,522
W4HJ 252 34 1 18,480
N3HXQ 166 33 3 3 13,248
K6SE 126 41 3 5 12,488
N7DF/TI9 (N7DF 31 18 4 2 3,410
Teams:
SN8V @SP8YMM SP8LBK, SP8NCF
KG4DZ W4ZYT W4SD N8CH KU4EC N6ZO
XE1RCS XE1JG, XE1KK, XE1ME, XE1VIC, XE1YJY
4O6A @YT6A YU7EU, YT6A
N8TR N8TR,WB8K,W8BIN,KF8UN,N8DMM
VE3DC VE3BK, VE3GCP, VE3VZ, VE3STT, VE3RZ, VA3DJ, VE
3VMO
WD5R WD5R/N5ECT
N7GP @W7MCO W7MCO, N5IA, N7QK, K7LON
NZ1U @KB1H KB1H, N1XS
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 3 21:34:45 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Russian DX Contest - Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020403213420.00a1cba0@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 Russian DX Contest - Final Claimed Scores
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
3830 Archives -http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX M/S
LY7Z HP 2452 618 24 10,755,054
LY1YK HP 2094 533 24 7,744,490
KR1G HP 1160 385 16 3,201,275
N2ED QRP 1153 298 22 2,358,074
W5NN @K5NZ HP 1074 307 24 1,951,599
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SO CW
DL2OBF @DF3KV HP 1560 494 24 5,229,978
ZC4DW (G0DEZ) LP 1429 464 4,959,690
LY2GV HP 1408 4,405,960
K3CR (LZ4AX) HP 1400 431 24 4,076,553
G3LZQ HP 941 410 16 2,782,260
HB9ARF LP 1055 380 20 2,735,240
ES5KJ (ES5RY) LP 998 373 2,539,011
N4BP HP 1001 321 17 2,087,784
AA3B HP 886 302 1,813,510
OH3XR LP 779 344 11 1,769,192
VE1OP HP 931 282 15 1,745,298
YL2LY HP 702 309 10 1,527,387
W8CAR HP 598 236 1,028,724
N2RM (N2NC) HP 577 233 7 993,279
KM5G HP 618 205 809,135
OZ0RS LP 434 232 11 727,552
K8DX HP 307 164 4 334,888
AB2E LP 320 156 316,836
HB9DTM LP 250 147 8 274,743
K5XR (W5ASP) HP 254 116 202,420
WA6O @K6ZM HP 210 103 4 162,740
K7MI HP 213 103 147,290
N2GC HP 200 119 137,207
W4SAA HP 155 116 7 129,688
K1GU HP 168 103 4 108,356
KN4Y LP 125 679 5 84,770
N2NC QRP 65 46 2 22,632
K6III QRP 30 21 2,961
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SO Mixed
SN2B (UA2FB) 2338 572 9,045,608
OZ1AA @OZ7YY HP 1982 533 24 7,771,140
N2NT HP 2067 445 24 6,267,380
HA3OV LP 1603 478 24 5,593,556
YL0A (YL2KA) LP 1411 452 24 4,653,792
VA3UZ @VA3RU HP 1724 000 24 4,399,590
YL2GD HP 1279 437 16 3,993,306
K3WW HP 1225 338 15 2,824,328
OH6NIO HP 1050 339 12 2,266,893
M0TTT LP 792 287 11 1,626,142
SM6DER LP 651 298 15 1,323,120
KQ2M HP 596 249 1,045,800
K4MA HP 449 200 602,000
N4YDU LP 364 166 7 397,736
VA3WN LP 347 131 250,472
N1SNB LP 287 119 4 214,319
KI7Y LP 258 61 191,142
YL2PN LP 182 114 4 148,428
LZ1ABC HP 225 0 60,000
VE5SF LP 102 49 29,743
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SO SSB
LY4AA @LY7A HP 1621 512 24 5,824,000
SN2X (SP2DWG) LP 1008 356 20 2,572,456
W6AAN @WF3J HP 946 266 1,762,250
WB0WAO LP 176 90 18 113,850
VE3AGC LP 127 75 5 71,775
N3GXY QRP 656 67 8 43,952
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/10
HB9CZF HP 393 97 9 286,441
I2WIJ LP 315 86 5 207,776
K2SX HP 316 92 188,508
VE3KZ HP 183 76 3 100,548
W4NZ HP 147 67 2 71,958
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/15
ZC4BS LP 312 97 5 211,654
LY2NXW LP 238 86 131,924
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/20
LY6A (LY2BM) HP 1348 146 24 1,282,026
IK8UND HP 3325 113 18 375,725
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/40
A61AR HP 499 115 439,645
YZ7DX LP 356 98 7 233,436
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
DX SOSB/80
S53F LP 435 89 253,027
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
Russian M/S
RU1A HP 3567 732 10,261,176
RF9C @RK9CWW HP 2859 700 24 8,700,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
Russian SO Mixed
RW4PL HP 1626 478 17 2,567,338
UA9FM HP 619 268 11 751,427
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
Russian SO SSB
RA3DNC LP 954 334 1,051,098
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr Q's Mult hrs Score
Russian SOSB/10
UA9YAB HP 1062 139 14 661,640
Teams:
LY7Z LY1DS, LY2TA
LY1YK LY2FY LY3CI
KR1G KR1G W1AAX
N2ED KF2EW, K2AF, N2ED
W5NN @K5NZ UA0OFF, K5NZ
RU1A RV1AW UA1ARX RW1AC RA1AR RA1AIP RA6CO RV3ACA R
N3AZ
RF9C @RK9CWW RZ9CO, UA9CDC, RA9CKQ, UA9CIR, RA9CMO
>From frenaye at pcnet.com Thu Apr 4 08:23:16 2002
From: frenaye@pcnet.com (Tom Frenaye)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Only 30 days - NEQP
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020404081512.038f7d60@204.213.232.3 >
Organizing efforts for the (new) New England QSO Party are going well. We
hope you'll plan to spend some time working New England stations on the weekend
of May 4-5. The full rules and a whole lot more are on the NEQP web site at:
http://www.neqp.org
We are working hard to get all 67 NE counties in CT MA ME NH RI and VT active
during the contest and have commitments for 42 of them already. If you plan
to be active from NE, let us know - we'll add you to our Reserve Your County
(tnx CQP) listing. We're also looking for plaque sponsors - so far we have 8
of them sponsored. Questions or comments can go to info@neqp.org
-- Tom/K1KI and Bob/W1RH
PS: Don't forget the Florida QSO Party the weekend before - a good warm up for
the NEQP.
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New England QSO Party - May 4-5, 2002 http://www.neqp.org
>From wo4o at juno.com Thu Apr 4 07:37:26 2002
From: wo4o@juno.com (R. A. Painter)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <20020404.073749.-1846735.6.wo4o@juno.com>
Wo4o doesn't like it either. nuff sed
73, Ric
On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 11:18:07 -0600 Sylvan Katz <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
writes:
> So what do other people think about eQSL.cc change of policy?
>
> The main page of the web site now says:
>
> "We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of
> our
> InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have
> confirmed."
>
> So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and
> who by
> law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL
> out of
> courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
>
> Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I
> have
> faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
> apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc --
> now you
> are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It
> seems
> that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able
> to
> respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not
> even be
> able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
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>From kr1g at hotmail.com Thu Apr 4 20:23:11 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <F101nk27XcYVJ4w3kXg00002131@hotmail.com>
Although no longer in the LoTW or ARRL loop, and thus speaking only for
myself, I can't possibly see how making the eQSL inbox somewhat more similar
to LoTW has to do with making it "closer to DXCC acceptance".
As I've said before, I like eQSL.cc - its a nice way of sending pretty
pictures around. It does a wonderful job with "QSL images" - or whatever
term you'd like to use. I *like* it! Its pretty cool.
But security has to be designed in from the beginning, not added afterwards.
We might argue over how much security is necessary, but seriously, DXCC
belongs to the ARRL and it's their decision (and of course I happen to agree
with them - but thats the subject of another post)
73
Ted KR1G
> > "We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of
> > our
> > InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have
> > confirmed."
> >
> > So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and
> > who by
> > law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL
> > out of
> > courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
> >
> > Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I
> > have
> > faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
> > apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc --
> > now you
> > are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It
> > seems
> > that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able
> > to
> > respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not
> > even be
> > able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
> >
> > .. sylvan
> >
> > Ô¿Ô¬
> > ----------------
> > Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> > Saskatoon, SK
> > http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
> >
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>From i2uiy at cqww.com Thu Apr 4 15:35:29 2002
From: i2uiy@cqww.com (I2UIY)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
Message-ID: <4.1.20020404202805.0094deb0@popmail.libero.it>
*********************************************
* PLEASE NOTE THE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS FOR LOGS *
*********************************************
EU SPRINT 2002
In 1994 the EU Sprint Gang (I2UIY, OK2FD, DL6RAI, and G4BUO) organized the
first European Sprint contests. For 2001 there have been some rule changes,
introducing an awards programme and bringing the Spring Sprints forward in
the calendar. You can find past scores and other information about the
sprints by visiting the official EU Sprint web site at this address:
<http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/>.
The BIG news is that now we will award a certificate to the winners in each
country but this is not all. Three nice plaques will be awarded for the top
three scores from all four contests combined. Therefore, please red circle
the four EU Sprint saturdays on your calendar, we will be looking for you
starting April 13!
EU SPRINT 2002
The EU Sprint Gang hereby invites you to participate in the four European
Sprint Contests held in 2002.
ENTRANTS: any licensed station may enter the Sprint. European stations can
work everybody; stations outside of Europe can work only European stations.
CATEGORIES: Single Operator ONLY. Only ONE signal may be aired at one time.
DATES:
EU SPRINT Spring:
* SSB: second Saturday in April - 13 April 2002 - managed by G4BUO
* CW: third Saturday in April - 20 April 2002 - managed by I2UIY
EU SPRINT Autumn:
* SSB: first Saturday in October - 5 October 2002 - managed by I2UIY
* CW: second Saturday in October - 12 October 2002 - managed by OK2FD
TIME: from 15:00 UTC until 18:59 UTC.
BANDS: 20, 40 and 80 metres only.
Pilot frequencies are: SSB: 14.250, 7.050, 3.730. CW: 14.040, 7.025, 3.550
EXCHANGE: all of the following data MUST BE PART OF THE EXCHANGE:
a) your callsign,
b) the other station's callsign,
c) your serial number starting from 001 (RST not required),
d) your name or nickname.
Please note that BOTH stations MUST repeat BOTH callsigns DURING the
exchange.
A valid exchange is: "OK2FD de I2UIY 118 Paolo" while "OK2FD 118 Paolo" is
NOT a valid exchange.
SPECIAL QSY RULE: if any station initiates a call (by sending CQ, QRZ?,
etc.), he is permitted to work ONLY one station on the same frequency. He
must thereafter move AT LEAST 2 (two) kHz before he may call another
station or before he may solicit again (CQ, QRZ?, etc.) other calls.
VALID CONTACTS: valid contacts are QSOs correctly logged and confirmed.
Each operator may use ONE and ONLY one name during the Sprint. If the
exchange is copied incorrectly, that operator will receive zero (0) points.
In case of miscopied callsigns, both stations will receive zero (0) points
for that QSO.
SCORING: each valid QSO counts one 1 (one) point. The final score is the
total number of QSOs.
AWARDS: Colorful certificates will be issued to the winners of each Sprint,
and to the leaders in each country. A special plaque will also be awarded
for the top three scores from all four contests combined. To be eligible
for this award an operator must enter at least three of the Sprints in the
year. Results will be forwarded as soon as possible to Leagues, magazines
and bulletins.
LOGS: a single chronological log is required. Please send us your log via
email or on a floppy disk, if you use computer for logging. Use any of the
available software or send a plain ASCII file. A separate summary sheet is
also required. Please send us the right files: for DL2NBU software, send
yourcall.ASC; for N6TR software, send yourcall.DAT; for IK4EWK software,
send yourcall.DBF.
If you want the latest release of the DL2NBU software, you can download it
from the EU Sprint web site: <http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/>.
Log files must be sent NO LATER than 15 days after the contest to:
<eusprint@kkn.net>. The receipt of your electronic log will be confirmed.
If you do not receive a confirmation within two days, try again or use the
postal
system.
Disk logs, or paper entries must be posted NO LATER than 15 days after the
contest to the appropriate address:
* Spring SSB Sprint: Dave Lawley, G4BUO, Carramore, Coldharbour Road,
Penshurst, Kent, TN11 8EX, England, UK.
* Spring CW Sprint: Paolo Cortese, I2UIY, P. O. Box 14, 27043 Broni
(PV), Italy.
* Autumn SSB Sprint: Paolo Cortese, I2UIY, P. O. Box 14, 27043 Broni
(PV), Italy.
* Autumn CW Sprint: Karel Karmasin, OK2FD, Gen. Svobody 636, 674 01
Trebic, Czech Republic.
Thanks in advance for your participation de: G4BUO, I2UIY & OK2FD.
**************************************************
* Download the FREE software: http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/ *
**************************************************
[ ] Paolo Cortese, I2UIY / IQ2A / NH7DX / OK8AFL
[ ] Pizza & Pasta Contest Club
[ ] CQWW Contest Committee
[ ] Eu Sprint Manager
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>From k4ik at subich.com Thu Apr 4 15:50:55 2002
From: k4ik@subich.com (Joe Subich, K4IK)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>
> From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:48 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> K1IR's post disappoints me.
>
> Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and
> why is always the ARRL which is at fault?
Why are you saying the ARRL staff is always right? eQSL had a
letter/email which stated that printed QSLs from anyone acting
as a legitimate (authorized) QSL manager would be accepted.
Someone among the ARRL staff changed that after the fact to
require a "double blind" process.
I think the change after the fact and without public discussion
is bad form at the minimum.
> Further, since my understanding (from those involved in the LotW
> project) that it's eQSL that chose not to be compatible with LotW
> or anyone else, why is anyone else being blamed for anything they
> do in their own little world?
Again, why are you being an ARRL cheerleader? eQSL "was there first."
Why did LOTW decide to adopt a system that was incompatible from the
beginning and adopt a "take it or leave it" attitude?
There is room for people to work together *IF* everyone is willing
to be flexible. To take the "play by my rules or I'll take my ball
and go home" attitude does nobody any good.
73,
... Joe, K4IK
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Thu Apr 4 16:04:01 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
> If you don't log a QSO and forget to fill out or send a card, and have no
> way of following up on it later because of a lack of a log entry (mobile,
> portable or otherwise) who's fault is this and why is this blame now being
> assigned to LotW which is still a work in progress?
There is an implicit assumption in the above statement that may not be quite
accurate. It appears to assume that both sides of a qso care about awards
and QSLs. I, for example, don't really care about awards and qsl cards. On
the other hand, I sure want to help those who do by confirming their qso
with me. I don't send QSL cards by mail --- a bit too expensive for my
simple life -- however, eQSLs are ideal. Although, I must admit I have never
initiated an eQSL but I have responded to hundreds of them.
By law I do not have to keep a general log. In practice I don't keep a
general log. I do keep contest logs. After, they are scored, they are
compressed, archived and put on a shelf. Too be quite honest I do not have
the time to search through contest logs, and some months I may have 4
contests logs, to confirm each QSL or eQSL that comes to my mail and
e-mail.boxes.
I rely on the honor system - if a fellow amateur wants an eQSL card from me
then all he has to do is send me an eQSL. I will assume he values our qso
and that he is honorable enough to provide me with accurate information
about our qso in his eQSL . And until the recent change of policy at eQSL.cc
I use to "eQSL 100 percent" but it seems they are forcing me to change my
words to "I never QSL". What a pity.
As others have pointed out, QSLing "is fundamentally an honor system and we
should be striving for ways to implement that honor system as painlessly as
possible."
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Thu Apr 4 17:26:00 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ronald Rossi)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <3CACD2F8.1D5EDC2A@btv.ibm.com>
Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
>
> K1IR's post disappoints me.
>
> Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and why is always
> the ARRL which is at fault?
They were slow to pick up the ball on this issue, but still want to define a
standard and determine the rules. The folks that started eQSL are forward
looking and getting the job done. Double blind is not how it is done for paper,
why should it be done that way electronically? In answer to "how would you make
this work?"...we have a working model.
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron (kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From w7zr at citlink.net Thu Apr 4 16:15:46 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
RO
I just pulled all of my logs from eqsl and will not answer cards through
that service anymore. It's a shame.
Dick W7ZR
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sylvan Katz" <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> > If you don't log a QSO and forget to fill out or send a card, and have
no
> > way of following up on it later because of a lack of a log entry
(mobile,
> > portable or otherwise) who's fault is this and why is this blame now
being
> > assigned to LotW which is still a work in progress?
>
> There is an implicit assumption in the above statement that may not be
quite
> accurate. It appears to assume that both sides of a qso care about awards
> and QSLs. I, for example, don't really care about awards and qsl cards. On
> the other hand, I sure want to help those who do by confirming their qso
> with me. I don't send QSL cards by mail --- a bit too expensive for my
> simple life -- however, eQSLs are ideal. Although, I must admit I have
never
> initiated an eQSL but I have responded to hundreds of them.
>
> By law I do not have to keep a general log. In practice I don't keep a
> general log. I do keep contest logs. After, they are scored, they are
> compressed, archived and put on a shelf. Too be quite honest I do not have
> the time to search through contest logs, and some months I may have 4
> contests logs, to confirm each QSL or eQSL that comes to my mail and
> e-mail.boxes.
>
> I rely on the honor system - if a fellow amateur wants an eQSL card from
me
> then all he has to do is send me an eQSL. I will assume he values our qso
> and that he is honorable enough to provide me with accurate information
> about our qso in his eQSL . And until the recent change of policy at
eQSL.cc
> I use to "eQSL 100 percent" but it seems they are forcing me to change my
> words to "I never QSL". What a pity.
>
> As others have pointed out, QSLing "is fundamentally an honor system and
we
> should be striving for ways to implement that honor system as painlessly
as
> possible."
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> "A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
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>
>
>From rhodes at evertek.net Thu Apr 4 17:18:02 2002
From: rhodes@evertek.net (Jim Rhodes)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <003901c1db33$85fb0480$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020404170941.00a0bd90@pop3.evertek.net>
Let me get this straight. You may or may not keep a log, that is up to you.
They are now saying that if you can't confirm the QSO because you don't
have a log, then you can't view the card, so you can't get the QSO data
from THEIR card so that you know what to put on your card. In other works
if I needed a card from VE5 all I would have had to do was send you a card
with made up information on it & you would have put the same information on
your card and posted it back to me. to me this just confirms that they
needed to close that avenue. If I can't confirm a QSO I don't send an QSL,
paper or e. If you do then you are not really helping the system.
Or am I mistaken. Is there another reason that you would be unable to
confirm a QSO?
At 11:18 AM 4/3/02, Sylvan Katz wrote:
>So what do other people think about eQSL.cc change of policy?
>
>The main page of the web site now says:
>
>"We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of our
>InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have confirmed."
>
>So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and who by
>law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL out of
>courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
>
>Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I have
>faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
>apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc -- now you
>are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It seems
>that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able to
>respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not even be
>able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
>
>.. sylvan
>
>????
>----------------
>Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
>Saskatoon, SK
>http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
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>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Thu Apr 4 17:30:35 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>; from Joe Subich,
K4IK on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 03:50:55PM -0500
References: <079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>
Message-ID: <20020404173035.E25949@cs.utexas.edu>
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 03:50:55PM -0500, Joe Subich, K4IK wrote:
>
>
> > From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:48 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> >
> >
> > K1IR's post disappoints me.
> >
> > Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and
> > why is always the ARRL which is at fault?
>
> Why are you saying the ARRL staff is always right? eQSL had a
> letter/email which stated that printed QSLs from anyone acting
> as a legitimate (authorized) QSL manager would be accepted.
"Legitimate" QSL Managers do not sell QSLs for a fee.
--
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Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Thu Apr 4 18:00:14 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>
Message-ID: <015501c1dc31$e3c17820$03010a0a@office1>
1. I am not saying ARRL is always right. I am saying that ARRL is not
automatically always in the wrong. I disagree with ARRL Leadership on many
issues, and if you don't believe that, go look at the Refarming posts over
on eHam.net
2. I agree with you that no public discussion, or at least announcement,
prior to the change by eQSL was a bad move. And I think it is unfortunate
that the explanation(s) given on the eQSL site, at present, are somewhat
superficial. That is a matter to be taken up with the people who made those
decisions, who wrote the text, and posted everything to the web site. Last
time I checked, Newington wasn't in Texas.
3. My understanding from talking to many people involved with what is now
known as the Logbook of the World project is that it was hoped from the
beginning that there would be some interaction and/or compatibility between
eQSL & LotW. It is also my understanding, based on a direct comment from
one of those participating, that it was N5UP who chose to discontinue
discussions on making the two systems compatible, not the LotW project. And
the big problem is one of security and validation issues, something which
eQSL lacked from the very beginning and still lacks in a big way today.
Otherwise I wouldn't have a "legitimate" P5SLIM eQSL jpeg file saved on my
hard drive.
4. Is it more important to be first or to do it right? If it's not done
right, what's the point in being first?
5. I have been forwarded a statement from N5UP stating that he made these
changes on his own initiative without being ordered to by anyone at the ARRL
staff and/or the LotW project. If this is true, then why is blamed being
dumped on ARRL for "forcing" the change?
6. Am I being an ARRL "cheerleader?" Hardly. I look terrible in
pom-pons and short skirts.
Besides, why does it seem always "in vogue" to bash the League and to bash
anyone who comes out in support of them? And more importantly, who do you
think the League is? The Headquarters staff? The elected and appointed
leadership? The League is it's membership -- too many of whom sit on the
fence and wait for someone else to do something, which is another issue
altogether. I am an active member of the ARRL. I have made it a point to
know the current and immediate past Division Directors, Vice Directors, and
Section Managers. And if I dislike something, I let them know. They may
tell me I'm off base, they may even may tell me to shut up and take a long
walk off a short pier, but I make my feelings known. Do you? (And I'm
lucky that the current and immediate past leadership in the Atlantic
Division listen. I've heard many complaints about other Division Directors
who allegedly don't. But that too is another issue)
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Subich, K4IK <k4ik@subich.com>
To: Ron Notarius WN3VAW <wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:48 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> K1IR's post disappoints me.
>
> Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and
> why is always the ARRL which is at fault?
Why are you saying the ARRL staff is always right? eQSL had a
letter/email which stated that printed QSLs from anyone acting
as a legitimate (authorized) QSL manager would be accepted.
Someone among the ARRL staff changed that after the fact to
require a "double blind" process.
I think the change after the fact and without public discussion
is bad form at the minimum.
> Further, since my understanding (from those involved in the LotW
> project) that it's eQSL that chose not to be compatible with LotW
> or anyone else, why is anyone else being blamed for anything they
> do in their own little world?
Again, why are you being an ARRL cheerleader? eQSL "was there first."
Why did LOTW decide to adopt a system that was incompatible from the
beginning and adopt a "take it or leave it" attitude?
There is room for people to work together *IF* everyone is willing
to be flexible. To take the "play by my rules or I'll take my ball
and go home" attitude does nobody any good.
73,
... Joe, K4IK
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Thu Apr 4 18:47:46 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1> <3CACD2F8.1D5EDC2A@btv.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <01bb01c1dc35$dd1fa2e0$03010a0a@office1>
Ron,
You make an interesting point. Why does ARRL want to define a standard and
determine the rules? Could it be because DXCC is their awards program?
Where they "slow" to pick up the ball? I think they were being cautious.
And maybe a little too conservative for my tastes too. Nevertheless, they
have taken action.
And I'm not sure why a fuss is now being made over "double blind." First,
that is indeed how it is done with paper QSL's -- after all, I send you a
card thinking that I made a contact, but until I either see your log or get
your card in return, how do I know it's there? And until you get my card,
ditto. Isn't that "double blind?" Second, this has been something that
has been requested of ALL on line logs for quite some time, and for good
reason. It is to prevent someone from fraudulently claiming a contact
actually made with another station as theirs as a "busted call." There was
a DXpedition last year where one of the ops posted complete logs early, and
they had to be recalled for that very reason.
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
From: Ronald Rossi <rrossi@btv.ibm.com>
To: Ron Notarius WN3VAW <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
>
> K1IR's post disappoints me.
>
> Why is any change blamed on ARRL HQ, why is it always bad, and why is
always
> the ARRL which is at fault?
They were slow to pick up the ball on this issue, but still want to define a
standard and determine the rules. The folks that started eQSL are forward
looking and getting the job done. Double blind is not how it is done for
paper,
why should it be done that way electronically? In answer to "how would you
make
this work?"...we have a working model.
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron (kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Thu Apr 4 16:07:49 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
References: <4.1.20020404202805.0094deb0@popmail.libero.it>
Message-ID: <005101c1dc35$ecefcb00$5a2afea9@sbcglobal.net>
NOW if we could just get Paolo and the ASSOCIAZIONE RADIOAMATORI ITALIANI
(ARI) to reward the winner with a trip for two to Italy to pick-up their
trophy, kind of like they used to do for the Bermuda contest, then we would
really have something. Or at least the pleasure of sharing one of Paolo's
world-famous 2 kilogram pizzas! Over to you, Paolo.
Jim
N6TJ (on as ZD8Z in the upcoming EU
CW SPRINT April 20)
----- Original Message -----
From: "I2UIY" <i2uiy@cqww.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:35 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
>
> *********************************************
> * PLEASE NOTE THE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS FOR LOGS *
> *********************************************
>
> EU SPRINT 2002
> In 1994 the EU Sprint Gang (I2UIY, OK2FD, DL6RAI, and G4BUO) organized
the
> first European Sprint contests. For 2001 there have been some rule
changes,
> introducing an awards programme and bringing the Spring Sprints forward
in
> the calendar. You can find past scores and other information about
the
> sprints by visiting the official EU Sprint web site at this
address:
> <http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/>.
> The BIG news is that now we will award a certificate to the winners in
each
> country but this is not all. Three nice plaques will be awarded for the
top
> three scores from all four contests combined. Therefore, please red
circle
> the four EU Sprint saturdays on your calendar, we will be looking for
you
> starting April 13!
>
> EU SPRINT 2002
> The EU Sprint Gang hereby invites you to participate in the four
European
> Sprint Contests held in 2002.
>
> ENTRANTS: any licensed station may enter the Sprint. European stations
can
> work everybody; stations outside of Europe can work only European
stations.
> CATEGORIES: Single Operator ONLY. Only ONE signal may be aired at one
time.
> DATES:
> EU SPRINT Spring:
> * SSB: second Saturday in April - 13 April 2002 - managed by G4BUO
> * CW: third Saturday in April - 20 April 2002 - managed by I2UIY
> EU SPRINT Autumn:
> * SSB: first Saturday in October - 5 October 2002 - managed by I2UIY
> * CW: second Saturday in October - 12 October 2002 - managed by OK2FD
> TIME: from 15:00 UTC until 18:59 UTC.
> BANDS: 20, 40 and 80 metres only.
> Pilot frequencies are: SSB: 14.250, 7.050, 3.730. CW: 14.040, 7.025, 3.550
> EXCHANGE: all of the following data MUST BE PART OF THE EXCHANGE:
> a) your callsign,
> b) the other station's callsign,
> c) your serial number starting from 001 (RST not required),
> d) your name or nickname.
> Please note that BOTH stations MUST repeat BOTH callsigns DURING
the
> exchange.
> A valid exchange is: "OK2FD de I2UIY 118 Paolo" while "OK2FD 118 Paolo"
is
> NOT a valid exchange.
> SPECIAL QSY RULE: if any station initiates a call (by sending CQ,
QRZ?,
> etc.), he is permitted to work ONLY one station on the same frequency.
He
> must thereafter move AT LEAST 2 (two) kHz before he may call
another
> station or before he may solicit again (CQ, QRZ?, etc.) other calls.
> VALID CONTACTS: valid contacts are QSOs correctly logged and
confirmed.
> Each operator may use ONE and ONLY one name during the Sprint. If
the
> exchange is copied incorrectly, that operator will receive zero (0)
points.
> In case of miscopied callsigns, both stations will receive zero (0)
points
> for that QSO.
> SCORING: each valid QSO counts one 1 (one) point. The final score is
the
> total number of QSOs.
> AWARDS: Colorful certificates will be issued to the winners of each
Sprint,
> and to the leaders in each country. A special plaque will also be
awarded
> for the top three scores from all four contests combined. To be
eligible
> for this award an operator must enter at least three of the Sprints in
the
> year. Results will be forwarded as soon as possible to Leagues,
magazines
> and bulletins.
> LOGS: a single chronological log is required. Please send us your log
via
> email or on a floppy disk, if you use computer for logging. Use any of
the
> available software or send a plain ASCII file. A separate summary sheet
is
> also required. Please send us the right files: for DL2NBU software,
send
> yourcall.ASC; for N6TR software, send yourcall.DAT; for IK4EWK
software,
> send yourcall.DBF.
> If you want the latest release of the DL2NBU software, you can download it
> from the EU Sprint web site: <http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/>.
> Log files must be sent NO LATER than 15 days after the contest to:
> <eusprint@kkn.net>. The receipt of your electronic log will be confirmed.
> If you do not receive a confirmation within two days, try again or use the
> postal
> system.
> Disk logs, or paper entries must be posted NO LATER than 15 days after the
> contest to the appropriate address:
> * Spring SSB Sprint: Dave Lawley, G4BUO, Carramore, Coldharbour
Road,
> Penshurst, Kent, TN11 8EX, England, UK.
> * Spring CW Sprint: Paolo Cortese, I2UIY, P. O. Box 14, 27043
Broni
> (PV), Italy.
> * Autumn SSB Sprint: Paolo Cortese, I2UIY, P. O. Box 14, 27043
Broni
> (PV), Italy.
> * Autumn CW Sprint: Karel Karmasin, OK2FD, Gen. Svobody 636, 674
01
> Trebic, Czech Republic.
>
> Thanks in advance for your participation de: G4BUO, I2UIY & OK2FD.
>
> **************************************************
> * Download the FREE software: http://loja.kkn.net/~i2uiy/ *
> **************************************************
>
>
>
>
> [ ] Paolo Cortese, I2UIY / IQ2A / NH7DX / OK8AFL
> [ ] Pizza & Pasta Contest Club
> [ ] CQWW Contest Committee
> [ ] Eu Sprint Manager
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>From kr1g at hotmail.com Fri Apr 5 03:10:06 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <F114eX2GOC9GBDYnV7j000166f5@hotmail.com>
Jim,
You are not quite right, although close. If the times are off or something
else is wrong (and you probably won't know what, just that you worked
P5/KR1G on 160 and the logs have been submitted and you don't have credit),
you would de *exactly* what you do today - send P5/KR1G's QSL manager,
KC1XX, a note saying "man I know I'm in the log can you double check
please?" And Matt may find a problem, like your call K1IR was logged
correctly on the cheap one-ply toilet paper KR1G used for logging because
his laptop ran erratically on P5 power but copied into the computer log
incorrectly.
As far as being too strict, blame me!! The biggest strength and reason for
the prestige of the DXCC program is its security - yes, you can scam it.
Print your own DL, and G and EA6 and PYOF cards and submit them and they'll
probably pass. Try that with a P5 or VU7 card and it gets *much* harder.
They do catch cheaters quite often I'm told. Any eQSL system MUST be at
least as secure! If its too secure and a too much of a hassle (the two go
hand in hand), it can be loosened later. We did consider possible (in some
cases probable) attacks and some of the "features" are designed especially
for them. Yes, I am Paranoid - its my job :)
73
Ted KR1G
>From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
>To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we can
>call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the point?
>If
>you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We submit
>the
>information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review
>their
>logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one, but
>I
>don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks are
>off
>by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line QSL -
>no
>QSO - and no way to track it.
>
>What do the DXCC Rules say?
>
>"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply,
>written
>proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be
>submitted
>directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . . Staff
>may
>accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
>
>and,
>
>"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call
>signs of
>both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and date,
>time
>and band."
>
>For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
>solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new double-blind
>confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic QSLing.
>
>It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure to
>get
>them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether printed
>or
>electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
>
>Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL DXCC
>policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
>accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
>
>73,
>
>Jim Idelson K1IR
>email k1ir@designet.com
>web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>
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>From k1ir at designet.com Thu Apr 4 23:00:33 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <ooxt6wp5y6ytfss.040420022300@designet-jsi>
>If you think this is a step in the wrong direction, then what would you have
them do? And how would you make it work? It's easy to criticize and assign
blame. You don't care for the solution? Then what would you do?<
No problem, Ron. I would implement the electronic QSL system in a manner that
mirrors the existing paper QSL system. That system would permit a QSL to be
issued unilaterally by one station and received by the other. This is what we
have today in the paper world - and while not perfect, it works. In fact, it
works so well that DXCC continues to be the most prestigious and popular award
program in amateur radio. If it were tainted by significant problems with QSL
credibility, it would not hold this lofty position after nearly 65 years.
I certainly agree with Ted - security needs to be built into the program, and
to me that includes making these unilateral QSLs theft- and copy-proof.
However, if there is a desire to increase the rigor in QSL requirements for
DXCC and other awards, such a decision and discussion should be taken up by the
DXCC team with significant input from those involved in the DXCC program. It
should not be implemented via an end-run by the QSL technologists.
The current approach might be great for the dedicated, web-savvy, hard-core
DXers among us; but it is not going to be particularly attractive to the
newcomers and casual operators that dominate our ranks. The requirement to
upload electronic logs in order to receive QSLs will filter out thousands of
potential users.
Instead, every ARRL member with an email address should automatically begin to
receive electronic QSLs. Totals for all awards should be tracked on-line for
every member. All this should be user-configurable at the ARRL website. This is
the way to drive acceptance and rapid adoption.
Want to ensure that confirmations of rare DX QSOs are harder to forge? Put
special requirements on certain DXpedition logs, extremely rare countries, etc.
But, please don't introduce log transcription or upload requirements just so we
can see the QSL for a 20M DL QSO.
The right way to do this is to start by web-ifying the process we have today,
learning from the initial experience, and finally, make changes that need to be
made - based on sound reasoning.
That's what I think.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Fri Apr 5 04:10:31 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <LOBBIIJIANGBKAMMJLBKIEFHFFAA.k4ik@subich.com>
Message-ID: <015f01c1dc4f$7378aca0$7a13be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Subich, K4IK" <k4ik@subich.com>
> Why are you saying the ARRL staff is always right?
The ARRL is obviously right on matters related to ARRL,
and DXCC is an ARRL property.
eQSL is also obviously right on matters related to their
program.
With all kind wishes,
de Hans, K0HB
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Fri Apr 5 04:37:24 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <F114eX2GOC9GBDYnV7j000166f5@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <017a01c1dc53$346f7300$7a13be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
> As far as being too strict, blame me!!
"Too strict" is transparent to the honest player.
With all kind wishes,
de Hans, K0HB
>From k0il at arrl.net Thu Apr 4 22:47:02 2002
From: k0il@arrl.net (Ed - K0iL)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Nebraska QSO Party
Message-ID: <01C1DC2A.A3E7D020.k0il@arrl.net>
The Heartland DX Association of Nebraska & Iowa
Invites You To
*** The Nebraska QSO Party ***
April 27th & 28th
1700 zulu Saturday to 1700 zulu Sunday
You just haven't partied until you've gone Cow Tipping at 2am Saturday
Nite!
For complete rules, details and paperwork go to:
http://www.qsl.net/hdxa/neqso/
Cow Tipping not required or even recommended unless you the right boots.
;^)
There are 93 counties in Nebraska but, just like years past, don't look for
all of them to be
active. We just don't have that many hams here, and even fewer contesters;
but you Sweepstakes guys already knew that. Well, what do you expect
trying to hold radio contests during "Big Red" Season every year. What are
you thinking?!
If you live near Nebraska and have mobile HF capabilities, come on over and
have some fun running counties. We even have one ham flying in from Oregon
who's planning a mobile expedition through some fairly rare counties this
NQP.
Special Stations to look out for:
---------------------------------------------
W7DRA - Mike from Oregon will be mobile. Tentative schedule is Boone,
Madison, Stanton, Cuming and Burt counties.
KG0KR - Beth. Another local mobile op who gives out several counties each
year.
K0AIR - Strategic Air Command (SAC) Memorial Club may be operating again
from
Douglas County's EOC underground.
NI0DX - We'll let you know if anyone decides to use the club call after our
April HDXA
Dinner.
With FQP & NQP going on at the same time, work all of the Nebraska &
Florida stations that you can then sort them afterward and send in all the
logs. Just Call "CQ N-F QP" or maybe F-N QP! Just work it! See you in
the Party.
73,
de ed -K0iL
HDXA V.P.
-.-. --.- .... .- -- ... -.. . -.- ----- .. .-.. -.-
Ed Edwards -- K0iL
PO Box 375
Elkhorn, NE 68022-0375 k0il@qsl.net
Visit my web site: http://www.qsl.net/k0il
or HDXA's web site: http://www.qsl.net/hdxa
--... ...-- . ... --. .-.. - --- ..- --- -- ...-.- . .
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 4 21:19:37 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 04Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204050519.g355JbP05856@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 04Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
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AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
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AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
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NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
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K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
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K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
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N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
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AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
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K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
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NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
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USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
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USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
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USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
K5PI(@W5KFT) 918 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
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USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
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USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
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USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
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USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
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USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
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USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
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USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
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USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
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USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
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USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM3GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 4 21:20:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 04Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204050520.g355KnB05867@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 04Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
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Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM3GU(@FM5GU) 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
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Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20h 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
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Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 @12 78,210
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
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Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32.8 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
PA5AT 648 383 15 hr 512,454
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
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Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P 1384 599 36 2,479,860
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
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Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18.5 467,040 BCDX Club
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Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14.4 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
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Non-USA SOSB20 HP
9A4X 2475 916 35.6 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30,5 3,175,484
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
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Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM3GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From tautvydas at achema.com Fri Apr 5 10:08:53 2002
From: tautvydas@achema.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tautvydas_Misi=FBnas?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
Message-ID: <006201c1dc79$2314e510$a800a8c0@tautvydas>
Jim,why You are so late with such brilliant idea?!
I've got my plaque by mail instead ...
CU this year!
Ted,LY2OX
>From va7bm at netzero.net Wed Apr 3 20:57:01 2002
From: va7bm@netzero.net (va7bm)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <003901c1db33$85fb0480$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <001c01c1dc8d$09b46000$7807fea9@address.com>
Yes that is a pity. I have no interest in receiving eQSL's (34 years chasing
DX I don't need many cards to increase my total. I've uploaded over 10'000
under 3 different calls and hope they are of some use to somebody. Oh well,
guess they will get it all sorted oneday.
73 Bob VA7BM ex VE7OR, VE7AZV and also licensed as KB7QEQ
----- Original Message -----
From: Sylvan Katz <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: CQ-Contest <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: April 03, 2002 9:18 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> So what do other people think about eQSL.cc change of policy?
>
> The main page of the web site now says:
>
> "We are one step closer to DXCC acceptance with the modification of our
> InBox. You can now only display/print eQSLs that you have confirmed."
>
> So for those of us who have no interest in the ARRL DXCC award and who by
> law are not required to keep a log but simply wish to return an eQSL out
of
> courtesy we can no longer send reply eQSLs using eQSL.cc.
>
> Over the past year I have enjoyed receiving a few hundred eQSLs. I have
> faithfully responded to each and everyone with a courtesy eQSLs. My
> apologies to all of you who recently sent me a eQSL via eQSL.cc -- now you
> are likely to receive a email indicating that I reject your eQSL. It seems
> that until eQSL.cc reverses its policy not only will I not be able to
> respond to your eQSLs to VX5ZX and VE5ZX .... In fact, I will not even be
> able to look at your eQSLs. What a pity!
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Fri Apr 5 07:24:41 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
Message-ID: <003b01c1dca5$3e99b5a0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
>I just pulled all of my logs from eqsl and will not answer cards through
>that service anymore. It's a shame.
Might I suggest that instead of pulling your logs that you try the
following.
1. Post a message short message to CQ-Contest indicating why you oppose the
eQSL policy
(QSLing is part of the contest process).
2. Go to eQSL.cc and reject each eQSL that was sent to you
3. When the reject QSL pop-up box appears, check "Other problem listed
below"
4. and in the box put the URL of the message you posted to CQ-Contest.
You can get the URL of your posting by going to
http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/ and finding your posting.
This approach will allow us to use eQSL.cc to help rally a broader community
to encourage the eQSL.cc advisory board to reverse it decision and change a
good thing gone bad back to a valuable tool that can be used by us all and
not just DXCC award seekers.
Just a thought
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From k7qq at netzero.net Fri Apr 5 07:42:52 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <001001c1dcab$a5f06cc0$b13dfa43@computer>
Quacks
I find that in most cases where I have one that isn't correct its is simply
a bad time or band in the Log that I uploaded or his log. When U reject
just put in the time shown in Ur log and if he wants the card he can obtain
it that way. I don't even look at the ards that come thru. I respond when
I get SASE /$ I have 5 years of cards at the buro that I may get some day.
I load logs to e-QSL right after a contest so I don't have to confirm them.
The recient chang at e-QSL makes for a bigger job but no BFD. I still am
tring to work WAS.
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: "ted demopoulos" <kr1g@hotmail.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 03:10
Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> Jim,
>
> You are not quite right, although close. If the times are off or something
> else is wrong (and you probably won't know what, just that you worked
> P5/KR1G on 160 and the logs have been submitted and you don't have
credit),
> you would de *exactly* what you do today - send P5/KR1G's QSL manager,
> KC1XX, a note saying "man I know I'm in the log can you double check
> please?" And Matt may find a problem, like your call K1IR was logged
> correctly on the cheap one-ply toilet paper KR1G used for logging because
> his laptop ran erratically on P5 power but copied into the computer log
> incorrectly.
>
> As far as being too strict, blame me!! The biggest strength and reason for
> the prestige of the DXCC program is its security - yes, you can scam it.
> Print your own DL, and G and EA6 and PYOF cards and submit them and
they'll
> probably pass. Try that with a P5 or VU7 card and it gets *much* harder.
> They do catch cheaters quite often I'm told. Any eQSL system MUST be at
> least as secure! If its too secure and a too much of a hassle (the two go
> hand in hand), it can be loosened later. We did consider possible (in some
> cases probable) attacks and some of the "features" are designed especially
> for them. Yes, I am Paranoid - its my job :)
>
> 73
> Ted KR1G
>
> >From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
> >To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> >
> >Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we
can
> >call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the
point?
> >If
> >you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We submit
> >the
> >information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review
> >their
> >logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one,
but
> >I
> >don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks
are
> >off
> >by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line
QSL -
> >no
> >QSO - and no way to track it.
> >
> >What do the DXCC Rules say?
> >
> >"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply,
> >written
> >proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be
> >submitted
> >directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . . Staff
> >may
> >accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
> >
> >and,
> >
> >"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call
> >signs of
> >both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and date,
> >time
> >and band."
> >
> >For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
> >solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new double-blind
> >confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic QSLing.
> >
> >It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure to
> >get
> >them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether
printed
> >or
> >electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
> >
> >Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL
DXCC
> >policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
> >accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
> >
> >73,
> >
> >Jim Idelson K1IR
> >email k1ir@designet.com
> >web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >CQ-Contest mailing list
> >CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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>
>From w7zr at citlink.net Fri Apr 5 07:25:31 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1> <003b01c1dca5$3e99b5a0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <00cc01c1dcaf$0455bd80$2dd443d8@N1>
> >I just pulled all of my logs from eqsl and will not answer cards through
> >that service anymore. It's a shame.
>
> Might I suggest that instead of pulling your logs that you try the
> following.
>
> 1. Post a message short message to CQ-Contest indicating why you oppose
the
> eQSL policy
> (QSLing is part of the contest process).
> 2. Go to eQSL.cc and reject each eQSL that was sent to you
I had uploaded 110,000 QSOs. I will forward on the requests for eqsl
confirmations to you. Joking. But no joke...I don't need or want the
confirmations. I was trying to do it to help others.
> 3. When the reject QSL pop-up box appears, check "Other problem listed
> below"
> 4. and in the box put the URL of the message you posted to CQ-Contest.
>
> You can get the URL of your posting by going to
> http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/ and finding your posting.
>
> This approach will allow us to use eQSL.cc to help rally a broader
community
> to encourage the eQSL.cc advisory board to reverse it decision and change
a
> good thing gone bad back to a valuable tool that can be used by us all and
> not just DXCC award seekers.
>
> Just a thought
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> "A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
>
>
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Fri Apr 5 09:54:39 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The clock is ticking down to FQP 2K2
Message-ID: <007b01c1dcb1$d50e70a0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
(please forward this message to your local ham club e-mail reflectors-TNX!)
Yes, its Friday and the WPX SSB is past us....what next you say?
You Yankees, how did those fixed South "multiplier" antennas work for
you....DON'T MOVE EM JUST YET! Because:
It's only 22 days until FQP 2K2...
Over the past several years, the Florida Contest Group has turned out tens
of thousands of QSOs from hams just like you in a state QSO Party - The
Florida QSO Party.
The FQP has just about something for everybody including a handsome
certificate program, extensive plaque program (see below), college
competition, club competition and new this year:
An SWL Category!
If you are an SWL please contact me - we would like to get this information
distributed ASAP to the e-mail reflectors that SWL's frequent!
Florida hams take pride in airing their state - our larger fixed stations
can rack up over 2000 QSOs in the FQP - this is a 20 hour contest, so that
means they average over 100/hour. How can they do this - by your
participation!
We have successfully activated all of Florida's Counties since we took over
running the FQP several years ago - in fact several stations did it last
year! How do we do that - with mobilers roving the state...if you are a
mobiler/county activator we invite you to join us...each year several out of
state hams will come down to the Sunshine State and help us activate our
counties...last year there were several such stations who became plaque
winners.
Here are the FQP 2,001 Plaque winners, congratulations go to:
Sponsor Award Winner
N4PN Top Florida CW NO4S (K9OM op)
N4DL Top Florida Phone K4XS
N4BP Top Florida QRP NA4CW
K1TO Top Florida Mobile (Single Op) W5WMU
K4OJ Top Florida Mobile (Multi-Op) K5WA (+N6MU)
AB4RL Top Florida Score K4FQP (K5KG op)
K4OJ Most QSO's Florida Single Operator K4XS
N4PK Top Florida Club Station Score W4MLB
QCWA Chapter 62 Top Novice/Technician No Entries
KD4RWN Top University Non-Florida W6YX
Friendship ARC Top University Florida K4UCF
W4JN Top Non-Florida CW K3TW
K4XS Top Non-Florida Phone N?WY
NF4A Top Non-Florida Mixed Mode W8MJ
NA4CW Top Non-Florida QRP K3TW
N4TO Top European CW M?SDX
WD4AHZ Top Canadian Mixed Mode VE1OP
NF4A Top DX Mixed Mode LY3BA
K5KG 1st station to work all Counties in FQP K3WW
Have you tried the FQP?
It is a fun contest with a simple exchange - Floridians send a signal report
and a county (full county abbreviation list on the FQP web page/URL
below)...Out of Florida stations send a signal report and their
state/province or country - again consult the URL below....
Floridians if you can participate please check in to the web page ASAP and
click on the link for county activation/NS4W, our county coordinator....let
him know what county or counties you can activate.. Once we have a
commitment for a county the Florida map on the opening page of the website
will change color from Green to Orange for that county...over the next few
weeks you will see the map become more and more orange and with the help of
other Floridians we will make it all Orange once again! Please check in
ASAP so the mobile teams can plan their routes to ensure all FL counties
will be well represented!
There are Florida county as well as out of state records posted on the FQP
website - check them out - as well as all the other valuable info on the
FQP. The FQP website is a true asset - it even contains links to logging
software that supports the FQP!
Spend a few minutes surfing the website, bookmark it and don't forget:
Its only 22 days until the 2,002 - be there!
Check out the website:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp/index.html
73/GL
Jim, K4OJ
K4FCG
The Florida Contest Group...thanks to you were running 'em!
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Apr 5 11:14:04 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <00cc01c1dcaf$0455bd80$2dd443d8@N1>
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
<003b01c1dca5$3e99b5a0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020405111207.05278560@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 07:25 AM 4/5/02 -0700, Richard Zalewski wrote:
>...
>I had uploaded 110,000 QSOs. I will forward on the requests for eqsl
>confirmations to you. Joking. But no joke...I don't need or want the
>confirmations. I was trying to do it to help others.
I don't get it -- if the eQSLs aren't accepted for DXCC, it's hard to
understand why it's helpful to upload your logs there. I'm waiting for
LotW to become operational, because at least we know that those credits
will be accepted. I hope that this project is not turning into another FAA
air traffic control computer upgrade!
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Fri Apr 5 08:16:32 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (bob.wruble@verizon.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1> <003b01c1dca5$3e99b5a0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <002f01c1dcbd$40bc3390$3ec13d04@bobhome>
i am/was on their stupid advisory board and was never
consulted or asked about their abrupt policy change!
they had a good thing going but this latest move will likely
remove me as a customer. i wrote them a private email a few
days ago re this move but no response so far!
de w7gg/ai7b/ww7or
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sylvan Katz" <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>; "Ron Notarius WN3VAW"
<wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> >I just pulled all of my logs from eqsl and will not answer cards through
> >that service anymore. It's a shame.
>
> Might I suggest that instead of pulling your logs that you try the
> following.
>
> 1. Post a message short message to CQ-Contest indicating why you oppose
the
> eQSL policy
> (QSLing is part of the contest process).
> 2. Go to eQSL.cc and reject each eQSL that was sent to you
> 3. When the reject QSL pop-up box appears, check "Other problem listed
> below"
> 4. and in the box put the URL of the message you posted to CQ-Contest.
>
> You can get the URL of your posting by going to
> http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/ and finding your posting.
>
> This approach will allow us to use eQSL.cc to help rally a broader
community
> to encourage the eQSL.cc advisory board to reverse it decision and change
a
> good thing gone bad back to a valuable tool that can be used by us all and
> not just DXCC award seekers.
>
> Just a thought
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> "A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Fri Apr 5 08:25:27 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (bob.wruble@verizon.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <001001c1dcab$a5f06cc0$b13dfa43@computer>
Message-ID: <003801c1dcbe$7f29d730$3ec13d04@bobhome>
forcing u to upload all of ur logs is a stupid move in my opinion
becuz that sends a endless stream of eqsls to stations that
have no interest in getting them .... like me!
why do i need 20 qsls from k7qq each contest season??
or from other domestic contest stns??
i have not uploaded any of my annual 30k plus contest
qsos to eqsl for this very reason ....... i saw eqsl as a great tool to
respond to the constant drone of incoming qsl requests
that follow/plague contesters ........
i want to support the paper chasers in the hobby in exchage for their wking
me in the contests ......... but now it looks like this
can't be done without uploading the logs?
lifes a bitch and then u die!
de w7gg/ai7b/ww7or
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
To: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:42 PM
Subject: Fw: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> Quacks
> I find that in most cases where I have one that isn't correct its is
simply
> a bad time or band in the Log that I uploaded or his log. When U reject
> just put in the time shown in Ur log and if he wants the card he can
obtain
> it that way. I don't even look at the ards that come thru. I respond
when
> I get SASE /$ I have 5 years of cards at the buro that I may get some
day.
> I load logs to e-QSL right after a contest so I don't have to confirm
them.
> The recient chang at e-QSL makes for a bigger job but no BFD. I still am
> tring to work WAS.
>
> Quack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ted demopoulos" <kr1g@hotmail.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 03:10
> Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> > Jim,
> >
> > You are not quite right, although close. If the times are off or
something
> > else is wrong (and you probably won't know what, just that you worked
> > P5/KR1G on 160 and the logs have been submitted and you don't have
> credit),
> > you would de *exactly* what you do today - send P5/KR1G's QSL manager,
> > KC1XX, a note saying "man I know I'm in the log can you double check
> > please?" And Matt may find a problem, like your call K1IR was logged
> > correctly on the cheap one-ply toilet paper KR1G used for logging
because
> > his laptop ran erratically on P5 power but copied into the computer log
> > incorrectly.
> >
> > As far as being too strict, blame me!! The biggest strength and reason
for
> > the prestige of the DXCC program is its security - yes, you can scam it.
> > Print your own DL, and G and EA6 and PYOF cards and submit them and
> they'll
> > probably pass. Try that with a P5 or VU7 card and it gets *much* harder.
> > They do catch cheaters quite often I'm told. Any eQSL system MUST be at
> > least as secure! If its too secure and a too much of a hassle (the two
go
> > hand in hand), it can be loosened later. We did consider possible (in
some
> > cases probable) attacks and some of the "features" are designed
especially
> > for them. Yes, I am Paranoid - its my job :)
> >
> > 73
> > Ted KR1G
> >
> > >From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
> > >To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> > >
> > >Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what we
> can
> > >call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the
> point?
> > >If
> > >you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We
submit
> > >the
> > >information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations review
> > >their
> > >logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good one,
> but
> > >I
> > >don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our clocks
> are
> > >off
> > >by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line
> QSL -
> > >no
> > >QSO - and no way to track it.
> > >
> > >What do the DXCC Rules say?
> > >
> > >"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV apply,
> > >written
> > >proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be
> > >submitted
> > >directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . .
Staff
> > >may
> > >accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are adopted."
> > >
> > >and,
> > >
> > >"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the call
> > >signs of
> > >both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and
date,
> > >time
> > >and band."
> > >
> > >For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX station -
> > >solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new
double-blind
> > >confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic
QSLing.
> > >
> > >It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a pleasure
to
> > >get
> > >them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether
> printed
> > >or
> > >electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed country.
> > >
> > >Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL
> DXCC
> > >policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
> > >accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
> > >
> > >73,
> > >
> > >Jim Idelson K1IR
> > >email k1ir@designet.com
> > >web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >CQ-Contest mailing list
> > >CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > >http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From yt3t at absolutok.net Fri Apr 5 20:17:28 2002
From: yt3t@absolutok.net (Kele YT3T)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL problem option - ALL INCLUSIVE
References: <200204050401.g35413Al001366@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000001c1dcd0$e5ab4680$9de45d50@pentium>
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Kele
YU1AO, YT3T, N2KAB
email to yt3t@absolutok.net
(QSLing is excellent marketing strategy for your next contest score)
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Fri Apr 5 15:07:33 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] qsl's
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEJDDEAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
An interesting forum, to discuss ARRL's impact on
eQSL policy.
This is a real conundrum; my reason for using
eQSL was simplicity of providing courtesy responses
to folks I'd worked.
While I DO log dx, and have 300+ worked, I have zero
confirmed. Well...ok, I threw out 250 or so, from my
old address, and have worked over 300 since moving to
VT....and yes, over a hundred HAVE sent paper cards since
then....but WHO CARES?
It's not about pieces of paper, it's about people.
I like swapping .jpg's with folks I work, and knowing
a bit more about them, WHILE I work them (thank you,
qrz.com).
Am I simply off in a corner, here? The ARRL program is
meaningless to me. eQSL's utility has been reduced
substantially since the change.
Fie on the bloody lot of them. What shall we do next?
Jim Jarvis
N2EA
>From k1mk at arrl.net Fri Apr 5 12:22:49 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID:
<20020405122256.5465.c002-h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Jim,
Jim Idelson wrote:
> However, if there is a desire to increase the rigor in QSL
requirements for
> DXCC and other awards, such a decision and discussion should be taken
up by the
> DXCC team with significant input from those involved in the DXCC
program. It
> should not be implemented via an end-run by the QSL technologists.
That rigor would appear to already be there, at least in public
statements if not enforcement.
The DXCC Program has characterized preemptive QSLing even with paper
cards as a "poor QSLing practice" that should be discouraged; at least
when it's practiced by rare DX stations.
Now, it doesn't seem to be of much concern that individual contesters
from "common" entities preemptively send out multiple thousands of
unsolicited cards via the bureau annually. A very low percentage of
those cards are likely to ever make their way back in an appliction to
the DXCC Desk (or field checking).
Also, with paper cards the fact that the first of two cards exchanged is
an unsolicited confirmation doesn't seem to matter. The initial card in
an exchange of QSLs is typically not the one with which the DXCC Desk is
concerned, particularly at the higher achievement levels.
Likewise, responding to incoming cards without consulting a log is
another example of what was described as "poor QSLing practice". It
might be seen as a courtesy or convienience when practiced between
stations in non-rare entities, but if it became known that a station
from a "rare" entity sent out cards without checking a log or didn't
keep a log, DXCC credit for contacts with that station might well be
denied.
Yes, those would seem to be very much of a double-standard; which are
not internally self-consistent. If DXCC has a more rigorous set of
self-imposed standards (or suggested practices) for how QSLs from "rare
DX" should be generated which differ from the typical practices employed
by us "commoners", then it should not be that much of a surprise that a
single, uniform protocol enforced by LoTW would be based upon the
higher, more rigorous standards and suggested practices of the DXCC
Program rather that emulating the practices in common use.
Remember LoTW is firstly a front-end for DXCC and other ARRL awards
programs. It satifies the requirements needed to perform those functions
very well. But it is not necessarily the best or most general model for
how to define and implement an open standard for portable, forge-proof
electronic confirmations.
> The current approach might be great for the dedicated, web-savvy,
hard-core
> DXers among us; but it is not going to be particularly attractive to
the
> newcomers and casual operators that dominate our ranks. The
requirement to
> upload electronic logs in order to receive QSLs will filter out
thousands of
> potential users.
The current approach would not prevent a casual user from sending QSO
information for a single contact, just like sending an individual card.
Could easily do that from a web form: type in your QSO data, click send.
Anyone can create their own version of what they think this UI should
look like because the upload is by means of e-mail or http. And the
upload could even go via a third-party since it does not have to take
place over a validated or otherwise secured connection.
Unless there is a change in philosophy what is unlikely to happen is to
be told "You've Got QSL" and be provided with the full QSO details.
> Want to ensure that confirmations of rare DX QSOs are harder to forge?
Put
> special requirements on certain DXpedition logs, extremely rare
countries, etc.
How about only requiring the user submit double-blind matching QSLs for
new band/mode countries? Might work if LoTW were only intended to be
used for DXCC. It's not.
Plans are to expand LoTW to include the other ARRL awards programs, so
you'd need to also exclude viewing of unsolicited, unmatched QSLs from
new states, grids, etc. Over the longer term there is a consideration of
marketing LoTW data or awards checking services to outside customers.
Can't compromise the integerity and potential marketability of the
database, so the genie can never be let of the bottle.
This whole issue of double-blind originates with the scenario that by
going to electronic confirmations will make the QSLing process so easy
and inexpenisve that preemptive QSLing will become the norm. Why go
through the trouble of checking each card, just upload the logs? It
helps out the other guy, right?
As a result, the thinking goes, many of the "undeserving" will start
receiving unsolicited confirmations for contacts they didn't make
because of the inevitable busted call signs. Remember those? This is
CQ-Contest after all. Some of the weaker individuals out there might be
tempted to submit those unearned confirmations for award credit.
It can happen just as easily with a bureau card despite preemptive
QSLing having been labeled a "poor" practice. It doesn't happen very
often only because most of the rarer DX don't send out a card for every
contact via the bureau; yes, some do.
As I recall, one goal of LoTW was to come up with a process for
electronic conformations that was "more secure" than paper QSLs. Going
double-blind closes off giving out credit for a busted call. Just like
contest log checking.
It's yet another attempting to have a machine enforce ethical behavior.
It's a people problem. Other than personal integrity, there is nothing
to stop two individuals from consipiring to falsify a contact, under the
present system or any future system. But the machine can stop an
individual from fraudulently taking advantage of some else's error. Is
it worth it the inconvience?
Anyone got a different solution?
> But, please don't introduce log transcription or upload requirements
just so we
> can see the QSL for a 20M DL QSO.
Well, I guess we're not supposed to look at the unsolicited DL cards
that arrive via the bureau, either. :-(
73,
Mike K1MK
k1mk@alum.mit.edu
Michael Keane K1MK
k1mk@arrl.net
________________________________________________
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http://www.peoplepc.com
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Fri Apr 5 20:27:52 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New Contesting Radio?
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar> <00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
Message-ID: <001c01c1dcd7$fe2fa820$0215be3f@bigguy>
>From http://www.tentec.com/TT565.htm
"Instant Two Radio Mode" allows ORION to instantly QSY between two different
bands. Two linear amplifiers, two sets of accessory devices via dual band data
outputs and two antennas can optionally be connected to ORION to allow
instantaneous QSY.
Unfortunately is still "looks like a TenTec"
73, de Hans, K0HB
>From jtolbert at gremlan.org Fri Apr 5 19:18:18 2002
From: jtolbert@gremlan.org (Jamie WW3S)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2 problems I see with eQSL
Message-ID: <011501c1dd00$8e341140$0500000a@bedroom>
I have not been very active with eQSL but had over 600 qsls in my in-box so
I just uploaded my log (about 38,000 qsos in ADIF) to eQSL and surprisingly
only a small amount "matched" what was in my inbox. This means they must be
entered manually to confirm. Two problems I saw was a slight mis-match in
time. EX: I logged at 1923 but other station logged at 1924, this gets
bounced. Bigger problem was they have the contest exchange in the exchanged
field and apparently my programs wont export that so the card in my in-box
displays 599 513 where mine just has 599; again this gets bounced. I'd love
to be able to confirm these 500+ qsos without manually searching the log and
then adding it to my eQSL log but I just don't have the time. You would
think there would be a +/- parameter that could be set so if within "X"
minutes do an auto-confirm.....
73
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Apr 5 19:04:18 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL DX SSB - DX Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020405190201.00aabc00@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 ARRL DX SSB - DX Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: April 2, 2002
E-mail logs to: DXPhone@arrl.org
Mail logs to:
DX Phone Contest
ARRL
225 Main St.
Newington, CT 06111
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX M/2 HP
9A7A 6360 289 5,514,120 CROATIAN CONTEST CLU
HG6N 6028 267 4,828,428
DL6RAI 5459 270 48 4,421,790 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
OA4O 5400 261 4,228,200 RADIO CLUB PERUANO
LY7Z 5119 266 4,000,000 LITHUANIAN DX GROUP
YT9X @YU1AAX 4910 253 3,726,690 YU CONTEST CLUB
EA5DFV 4598 244 44 3,365,736
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX M/M LP
V26S 5036 299 34 4,517,292 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX M/M HP
9A1A 8438 306 48 7,746,084 CROATIAN CONTEST CLU
EA8ZS 5623 303 48 5,111,307 GALDAR CONTEST TEAM
LT1F 4536 241 48 3,270,129 THE BAD POWER
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX M/S LP
KH6/W2EDD @KH6 2470 242 1,793,220
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX M/S HP
VP5B 7746 338 48 7,854,444 TOP OF EUROPE CONTES
FY5KE 7665 328 7,542,360
PJ4G 6122 322 48 5,913,852 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
TM5C 6265 284 5,337,780
6D2YFM 5734 318 48 5,329,004
CT9M 4865 282 48 4,115,790 RHEIN RUHR DX ASSOCI
OM0M 4657 259 3,618,489
OM7M 4301 278 48 3,587,034 LBCC
OE2S 4290 269 40 3,462,030 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
IQ4T 3740 251 48 2,816,220 ROMAGNA CONTEST CLUB
PW0T 4156 225 48 2,805,300 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
SN8V @SP8YMM 3548 240 43 2,554,560
LU1NF 3140 214 45 2,015,880
PI4TUE 2696 223 1,803,624
LA2Z 2675 223 1,789,575
IO4T 2432 241 1,758,336
VK4UC 2369 221 40 1,569,984 WWDXC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOAB QRP
TI5N (W8QZA) 1590 200 40 954,000
F5NOD 519 134 15 208,638
LR7E (LU3DR) 209 88 38 55,176
S54AA 167 84 42,084 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
SM6DER 187 61 9 34,221 HISINGENS RADIOKLUBB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOAB LP
XE2AUB 1700 161 30 821,100
SV1DPI 1467 176 774,576
KL7AC 1449 172 20 747,684
EA6DD 1240 193 717,960
FS/KT8X 1228 162 13 596,808
V51/SP6IXF 845 111 8 281,385 SPDXCLUB
RG9O (RZ9OU) 649 133 258,552
F8AAN 601 124 16 222,084
RD4M (UA4LU) 369 99 109,593
SP1EK 267 89 71,289 SPCC
VA3PC 660 107 70,620
JE1TSD 153 438 32,412
SP8GNF 118 66 23,364
MW5EPA 165 76 5 12,540 CONTEST CAMBRIA
T97M 77 34 7,854 SARAJEVO CONTEST GRO
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOAB HP
8P5A (W2SC) 8211 336 48 8,280,000 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
TI5/VE7CC (VE7 5639 328 40 5,548,776
WP2Z (N2TK) 5190 299 35 4,655,430 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
SN2B (SP2FAX) 5033 266 4,016,334
M6T (G4PIQ) 4515 283 3,830,688 MARTLESHAM DX & CG
NH7A 4541 280 3,814,440
GM4YXI 3915 282 34 3,312,090 NORTH OF SCOTLAND CO
G4BUO 4418 246 33 3,260,484 CHILTERN DX CLUB
HI3/K1CX (KC1X 3515 306 18 3,226,770 ECC
GM7V (GM3WOJ) 3148 249 37 2,351,556 NORTH OF SCOTLAND CG
OE1EMS 3008 228 30 2,057,472
7S2E (SM2DMU) 2660 228 40 1,819,440 TOP OF EUROPE CONTES
RA3AJ 2627 212 1,670,772
RK4FF 1776 194 1,033,050
ZL1ANJ 1036 171 30 531,468
IK4AUY 963 161 11 465,129 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
VK2CZ 1021 125 20 382,875
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOAB(A) LP
7L4IOU 867 162 418,446
9A7P (9A6XX) 627 106 199,386 WORLDWIDE YOUNG CONT
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOAB(A) HP
DK8ZB 2793 282 37 2,362,878 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/10 QRP
SP5XMU 220 46 32 30,360
T91ENS 10 8 240 SARAJEVO CONTEST GRO
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/10 LP
PY2XAT 1799 60 323,820 TUPY DX GROUP
G0AEV 1438 59 254,526
PY2YU 1425 59 252,225
EA7GTF 1393 59 246,561
P40B (P43P) 1313 58 8 228,288 ARUBA AMATEUR RADIO
SP3KEY (SP3DWQ 1115 59 16 197,335
KH6GMP 1078 56 48 181,104 HAWAII DX ASSOCIATIO
S58M 822 59 144,000 SCC
XE1BEF 727 57 124,317
IQ2C (IK2JUB) 623 59 11 110,271 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
S57LWG @S57IIO 607 55 100,000
M0GTO 226 45 8 30,375
YU1ACS (4N1EA) 178 42 20 22,428 YU CONTEST CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/10 HP
ZX5J 3311 61 605,913 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
PJ2K (K6RO) 3179 60 28 572,220 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
ZF2AH (W6VNR) 2914 59 29 515,778
NP3X (KP4WW) 2689 60 484,020 COAMO CONTEST CLUB
9A5Y (9A3LG) 2406 59 425,862
DL1IAO @DL0WW 2432 58 18 423,168 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
DF9ZP 2383 59 421,791 BAVARIAN CONTEST CLU
S50C (S55OO) 2295 59 406,215 CCS CONTEST CLUB SLO
S50K 2207 60 18 397,260 SCC
YT0A (YT3T) 2244 59 17 397,011
DF3KV 2132 60 19 383,760 RHEIN RUHR DX ASSOCI
IK4MHB 2002 60 360,360 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
S51TA 1814 59 321,078 CCS-CONTEST CLUB SLO
EA3QP 1706 61 15 312,198
UU7J (UT5UT) 1372 59 241,428 CRIMEAN CONTEST CLUB
RZ3AA 1163 60 12 209,340
OM5AW 2850 58 165,300
UA9YAB 566 54 13 91,692
RU9WX 360 49 52,920 BASHKIRIAN DX CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/15 LP
TI7/N4MO (N4MO 1700 59 25 300,900 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
V31MF 1512 60 272,160
PY2NDX 1520 59 269,040
ZV2V (PY2LED) 1252 60 225,360 TUPY DX GROUP
S57IIO 1161 59 205,497
LZ9W (LZ2HM) 1006 59 178,062 LZDXF
SP4DEU 718 58 124,932
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/15 HP
OH6NIO 1741 145 757,335
P40A (KK9A) 3550 59 628,350 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
OK1RI 2481 61 454,023
KL7RA 2661 58 22 447,354
9A1P 2282 59 24 403,914 WORLDWIDE YOUNG CONT
4O6A (Z32AF) 2194 59 388,338 SKY CONTEST CLUB
OH6AC (OH6CS) 2005 61 366,915 CONTEST CLUB OF FINL
OE8SKQ 2002 6012 354,708
ES5RW 1915 59 20 338,955 TARTU CONTEST TEAM
S53MM @S51TA 1779 59 314,883 CCS-CONTEST CLUB SLO
EA3IN 1583 59 280,191
S52ZW 1579 279,483 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
LY6A (LY2BM) 1504 59 266,031
OK1CF 1224 59 216,648
J37K (AC8G) 1170 59 8 207,090
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/160 HP
HA5JI 65 17 3,315
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/20 LP
SM0W (SM0WKA) 1542 59 272,934 CONTEST CLUB OF FINL
IK8UND 607 54 98,334
ZC4DW 63 27 3 5,103 CHILTERN DX CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/20 HP
PY3FOX 193 836 19,383,600 ARACAURIA DX GROUP
OH4A (OH6LI) 2550 62 40 470,000 CONTEST CLUB OF FINL
OH8L (OH8LQ) 2359 62 423,894 CONTEST CLUB OF FINL
S51CK 1266 60 227,880 SCC
PY3FOX 1114 58 193,836 ARACAURIA DX GROUP
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/40 HP
GW7X (GW4BLE) 1156 58 25 201,144 CONTEST CAMBRIA
BA4RF 58 27 4,698
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/80 LP
S57MSU 28 12 1,008
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
DX SOSB/80 HP
YV5OHW 703 57 24 120,213
OT2T (ON4UN) 490 42 61,740
S59CAB (S53CC) 409 42 51,534
UZ7U (UT3UA) 202 29 17,574
YT6A 418 37 SKY CONTEST CLUB
Teams:
9A7A 9A8A, 9A7V, 9A6DM, 9A4RX, 9A4PA, 9A4BT, 9A3TR,
9A3OS, 9A2ME
HG6N HA3OV HA6DX HA6ND HA6NF HA6NQ HA6NY HA6PX
DL6RAI DL1MGB, DL2NBU, DL4RDJ, DL6RAI AND DJ5CL
OA4O OA4EI, OA4AHW, OA4BHY, OA4CRK, OA4DII, OA4DIX,
OA4DJW, OA4DKC, OA4DMR (OH0XX), DL1NL
LY7Z LY1DS, LY2TA, LY3MM
YT9X @YU1AAX YT1RU, YT1RA, YZ1KA, YU1JW, YU1ZZ, MARKO
EA5DFV EA5ON EA5CLH EC5CPL EA5DFV
V26S N2WKS KD3TB W3CF
9A1A N4PN, NF4A, 9A5W, 9A3GW, 9A6A, 9A6D, 9A7R,
9A5K, 9A8W, 9A9A
EA8ZS EA8ZS AND GALDAR CONTEST TEAM
LT1F LU1FAM, LU1FGE, LU1FT, LU1FD, LU1FKR, LU3FP,
LU3FZW, LU5FHM, LU6FQD, LU8FOX, LU2FV
KH6/W2EDD @KH AD4J, K3ZM, W4GKA
VP5B K4ISV, K4CN
FY5KE F1HAR F5MZN F6FVY FY5FU FY5FY F5HRY
PJ4G K2NG, K2TW, NO2R
TM5C F6CTT - F5MUX - F5NLY - F5VCO - F4SGU
CT9M CT3BD, CT3DL, CT3EE, CT3EN, CT3HK, CT3IA,
CT3IQ, CT3KU
OM0M OM3BH, OM3CHL, OM8DX, OM8AW
OM7M OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OE2S OE2GEN, OE2LCM, OE2MON, OE2VEL
IQ4T I4IFL I4MNY IK4HVR IK4MGP IK4MGX IK4SXJ IK4WMH
PW0T PY7ZZ, PY7XC, PY5CC, PY5HSD, PT7BZ, PY1RO,
PY0FF, N6FF, PY7ZY
SN8V @SP8YMM SP8GQU, SP8ARY, SP8GWI, SP8LBK, SP8NCF, SQ8BGJ
LU1NF LU1NDC, LU2NI & LU8NA
PI4TUE PA3EZL PE1PRG
LA2Z LA3BO, LA6MV
IO4T IK4RQJ, IK4VET, IK4XCL, IK4ZHH, IK4ALM, IZ4DIJ
VK4UC VK4UC;NO7T
V31MF V31MF/KC5ZT
K4JA K4JA, K4MA, K9JY, KE9I, W3BP, KG9X
KI1G KI1G, K1NG, WF1B,KS1J,K1JN,K1SD,KB1LN
KR1G WA1S NR1DX W1AAX WC1M KR1G
N4TO K1TO, N4DL, N4TO, T93M, T93Y
K1IR AA1AA, K1EP, K1IR, KM2P, W1VE
KB1H KB1H, NB1U, N1XS, K1EBY, AA1CE, KB1DFB, W1TJL,
W3TB, KE1LI
W5KFT W5KFT, W6PH, K5TSQ, K5PI, W5TA, W5JEN, W5TD
VE6SV VE5FN VA6EA VE6AKY VE6EZ VE6NAP VE6RFM VE6SV
K2RD WA1FCN W1CU K2WR K2RD
NK7U NK7U, K7ZO, W7ZRC, WA7LT, KK7A, K7MK
N5TW WM5R NA4M KM5TY N5DUW WS4G W5TD N5TW
VE1JF VE1JF, VE1AI, VE1AMJ, VE1DHD, VE1HC, VE1MOO
AA5NT N3BUO, KK7JS, WD5FLK, N1CC, N5NJ, AA5NT,
KC5LOS, KC5SDY, W5GDC
KK1L KK1L, K1KD, W1SJ, W1DEC, AA1SU, K1WEY, N1ZUK,
K1HD, KC1WH
VE7SCC VE7HHS VA7DX
N3BB W5JEN, W5RQA, W5TA, WR5Q, KD5QJV, N3BB
KC1XX K1GQ W1FV AD1C HC1OT K6AW W1MD W2RQ K1XX
K9NS AA9D,K9DX,K9HMB,K9NO,K9PPY,K9PW,K9QVB,K9RO,
K9RS,KO9A,KS9W,W9RM,WE9V.
W2FU W2FU, K2UA, N2MG, K2AXX, K2DB, K2TER, K1PY
W1FJ @W1KM NB1B, W1KM, N1TB, N1NK, W1NA, W1FJ
N2RM N2RM N2NC WM2H
W3PP W3PP N6ZO K3FT N3KW W2GJ KB3FEE W3PAR N3PT KW3Z
K3ANS K3ANS, N3PUR, N3MX, KB3CBO, K3YD, W3ZL, KC3WX,
W0RSJ
K3NM K3IPK,K3ZV,LU9AY,K3NM
N6RO K3EST, K6RC, K6TA, K6KO, KI7WX, W6SR, N6BV,
N6SNO, N6RO
W4MYA N4DEN, N4EHJ, K4KJL,K4KML,K4WMA,KF4QQY,W4HZ,
W4MYA,WK4Y
W8ZA K3DNE, K8OQL, ND3A, N8II, W8ZA
W2CG W2CG, W2EN, W2NO, K2WJ
K3OO @K3OOO K3OO & K3OOO
K3CT @K3II K3CT, K3II
NY4T NY4T N4LKE W1ADE KR4FO KG4RDF KG4MHK
K8AZ K8AZ, K8BL, K8NZ, ND8L, W8KIC, WB8K, WT8C
W0GU @N2IC N2IC,NA5S,K0KR
W4MR @AA4NC AA4NC, N4YDU, K4HA
K8CC K8CC, K8GL, KE8OC
K5NZ W5BA , K5GA , K5NZ
K0DU K0CL, N0ZA, KC0DKX,K0UK
K2XR K2XR+K2OWR+WB2WIK
NE3F KS3F K3ATO NT3V NG3Z KB3GWY
K5NA K5NA, K5DU, KI5DR, N5ZC, K2UR, NT5C
N5YA N5YA, WX0B, N5KR, K5MR, K5WO, KR5F
K2KQ K2KQ, W2WB
N1MM N1MM, N1IXF
VA3RU VE3NZ VA3RU
KR0B KR0B,NOBKL,KS0T,N0RA,KJ0B,K0KP,KB0KQA
W0ZT W0ZT, K0SR, K0XN
K0TV KB1PZ W1ES NF1A K0TV
N1LN W5MF, K7LEX, W5MJS, N1LN
VE3HG VE3HG, VE3RZ, VA3GGF, VA3EC
W6EEN W6EEN, K6XC, W6AQ, W6ORD
K0FJ K0FJ K0BJ KC0JAO
W3LJ W3IDT K3NCO KA3UBJ W3LJ
K9ES K9ES, AD4ES
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Apr 5 19:04:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL DX SSB - NA Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020405190153.00aa85e0@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 ARRL DX SSB - NA Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: April 2, 2002
E-mail logs to: DXPhone@arrl.org
Mail logs to:
DX Phone Contest
ARRL
225 Main St.
Newington, CT 06111
USA
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Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
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NA M/2 HP
K4JA 5767 610 48 10,551,780 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
KI1G 5378 576 48 9,291,456 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
KR1G 4964 519 48 7,702,479 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N4TO 4595 537 48 7,397,712 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
K1IR 4393 522 44 6,868,476 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
KB1H 3789 530 6,000,660 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W5KFT 3992 478 48 5,721,660 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
VE6SV 4089 445 5,429,445
K2RD 3580 498 46 5,288,760 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NK7U 3795 434 48 4,916,352
N5TW 3347 441 48 4,343,409 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
VE1JF 3270 435 38 4,267,350
AA5NT 3201 445 4,199,910 NORTH TEXAS CONTEST
KK1L 2487 425 40 3,165,825 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
VE7SCC 1569 334 36 1,572,138 COQUITLAM AMATEUR RA
N3BB 933 291 27 814,509 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
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NA M/M HP
W3LPL 8728 688 17,967,120
KC1XX 8535 672 17,037,216
K9NS 8189 636 48 15,609,348 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
W2FU 6364 595 48 11,359,740 ROCHESTER (NY) DX AS
W1FJ @W1KM 5595 590 9,892,530 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N2RM 5260 565 48 8,902,140 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W3PP 5161 550 48 8,515,650 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3ANS 4562 560 48 7,627,200 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3NM 4742 532 45 7,563,444 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N6RO 4803 497 48 7,150,836 RIVER CITY CONTESTER
W4MYA 4211 568 45 7,069,096 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W8ZA 3441 497 48 5,130,531 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W2CG 2489 464 3,477,216 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3OO @K3OOO 1892 434 24 2,463,385 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3CT @K3II 1642 339 25 1,669,914 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
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NA M/S LP
NY4T 982 284 44 835,812 TENNESSEE CONTEST GR
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NA M/S HP
K8AZ 3137 516 48 4,800,000 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
W0GU @N2IC 3339 458 48 4,586,412 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
W4MR @AA4NC 3250 466 4,543,500 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
K8CC 3018 476 48 4,309,704 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
K5NZ 2871 480 48 4,132,800
K0DU 3289 393 47 3,873,015 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
K2XR 2752 468 48 3,859,596 SCORE!
NE3F 2581 470 3,633,570
K5NA 2585 450 3,439,800 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
N5YA 2579 438 48 3,387,492 NORTH TEXAS CONTEST
K2KQ 2477 446 48 3,314,226 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N1MM 2453 445 48 3,257,400 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
VA3RU 2781 392 3,255,168
KR0B 2512 416 48 3,133,728 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
W0ZT 2249 411 44 2,773,017 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
K0TV 2139 410 2,627,280 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N1LN 1963 405 48 2,385,045 TEXAS DX SOCIETY
W2YC @AA2WN 1684 449 48 2,268,348 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
VE3HG 1731 408 46 2,113,848
W6EEN 1488 328 48 1,462,224 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
K0FJ 1342 330 37 1,326,600
W3LJ 965 297 38 859,815
K9ES 286 79 25 67,308 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
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NA SOAB QRP
N4KG 922 283 32 782,778
K7MM 735 219 482,895
N3GXY 360 156 25 168,480
KI0II 276 135 111,780 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
K8ZT 207 123 76,014
NQ7X 208 102 12 63,648 AZ SCQRPIONS
W9HL 132 86 34,056 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
WB6BWZ 129 80 7 30,960 SOUTH EAST CONTEST C
N7IR 91 51 3 13,923 CENTRAL ARIZONA DX A
WD4OAY 60 44 19 7,920
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NA SOAB LP
VA3UZ 1767 343 34 1,807,953 U-VE CONTEST CLUB
AC0W 1620 335 43 1,628,100 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N1SV 1454 345 1,508,890 YCCC
K8EP 1508 320 42 1,447,680
N5AW 1419 339 41 1,443,123 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
N4TZ/9 (N4TZ) 1355 344 1,398,360 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K1VR 1280 345 36 1,324,800 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
K1VUT 1297 305 37 1,186,755 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
VE5SF 1076 260 26 826,800
N0FP 857 243 28 624,753 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N6WIN @W6KK 819 243 29 597,051
W3LL 691 267 28 553,491 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W7YAQ 822 224 19 552,384 WVDXC
K0XH 808 227 40 550,248 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N1LW 733 244 536,556 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
K9JLS @AI9U 741 237 30 526,851 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K1HT 690 245 14 507,150 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N2GA 723 229 15 496,701 ORDER OF BOILED OWLS
VE4YU 709 213 452,412
W2ENY 596 251 448,788 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
W3SE 617 237 438,687 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
VE7FO 736 200 31 427,800
WS7V 671 204 410,652
NX9T 605 211 10 382,965 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
WN3VAW 545 233 24 380,955 WIRELESS ASSOCIATION
K8IA 578 219 20 379,746
VE3AGC 583 215 30 376,035 GOLDEN HORSESHOE DX
VA3TTT 570 204 342,720
NS4W @K4UCF 542 198 321,948 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
N9XX 563 188 317,532 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K1VSJ 518 191 10 296,814 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N6EM 587 168 295,344 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
K3OX 428 219 11 281,196
K8KHZ 495 180 265,680 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
W1DAD 427 207 265,167 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
AA1UT 443 190 29 252,510
WA7YAZ 499 157 235,029
W0RK 428 177 20 227,268
AA6PW 404 163 14 197,556 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
KW7N 399 162 193,914
AB2E 344 175 180,600
KE4KMG 334 134 133,464 TCG
W8DRZ 321 132 27 127,116 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
W4/VE3BUC (VE3 268 131 9 105,324 SNOWBIRD MOBILE
W1AMF 280 122 8 102,480
NS3T 214 158 15 101,436
AB0MV 239 122 87,474 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
K8GT 226 125 84,750 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
K1VU 169 97 49,179 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N7XY 136 109 7 44,472 WWDXC
WA4PXP @W4MQ 97 97 10 28,227
VO1MX 118 75 2 26,325
W7UQ (KL9A) 217 39 4 25,389 WORLDWIDE YOUNG CONT
K2CC (KC2BMG) 120 70 24,780
W6ZZZ 45 35 4,725 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
WA2PQE 25 20 7 1,500
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NA SOAB HP
KQ2M 4403 503 45 6,642,618 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K5ZD (KM3T) 3887 464 42 5,405,136
VE3EJ 3656 487 44 5,265,444 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K4ZW 3868 451 47 5,233,404 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W9RE 3907 453 5,187,000 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
N2NT 3493 466 48 4,880,418 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
VY2SS (K6LA) 3505 401 48 4,216,515 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
AA1K 3211 415 48 3,997,695 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
WB9Z 3045 434 45 3,964,590 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K3ZO 3164 413 40 3,920,196 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
K5TR 3010 410 46 3,702,300 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
N9RV 3141 381 32 3,584,448 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K1KI (KM1P) 2823 324 35 2,879,982 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W7GG 2619 361 41 2,788,725 WVDXC
K4AB 2411 380 2,748,540 SOUTH EAST CONTEST C
K9ZO (KB9UWU) 2051 351 40 2,159,703 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
W6UE (W4EF) 2126 341 42 2,139,093 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
W4WTB 1544 351 35 1,625,832
VO1WET 2055 253 20 1,555,191
K8AL 1423 361 29 1,541,109 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K3MD 1411 331 31 1,401,123 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N0KV 1484 305 35 1,347,795
N2GC 1294 322 28 1,250,004 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N3HXQ 1306 306 39 1,188,810 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
N6ZZ 1614 241 25 1,156,077
N1JP 1166 312 26 1,091,376 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
K4BAI 1438 252 1,087,128 SOUTH EAST CONTEST C
KI9A @K0LIR 1248 97 28 1,063,296 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K0OU 1047 297 29 932,877 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K2BX 1009 290 20 877,830 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W1AO 1006 285 18 860,130 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W9JA 808 330 24 799,920
N6CCL 829 276 683,100 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
KI6CG 874 230 24 602,370 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
AD8J 748 237 16 531,828 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K6LRN 659 237 468,549 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
K1TEO 771 196 7 453,348
W0ZQ 648 227 441,288 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N8PW 657 220 28 432,960 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K5XR (W5ASP) 740 195 432,900 TEXAS DX SOCIETY
K5YAA 713 178 18 380,742 OKLAHOMA DX ASSOCIAT
NR7DX (K7ABV) 602 206 15 372,036 NORTHERN ROCKIES DX
K3VA 505 231 349,965 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
KO7X @KI7WX 305 154 5 140,910 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W4NZ 321 137 8 131,931 TENNESSEE CONTEST GR
VE5CPU 147 65 4 28,665
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NA SOAB(A) LP
NA2U 1261 329 30 1,244,607 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W0LSD 1055 289 30 914,685
K5IID 995 298 31 889,530 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
N6WS 908 314 30 854,394 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
WO1N 709 335 22 712,545 YU CONTEST CLUB
K0UK 669 317 636,219 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
K0PC 590 226 19 400,200 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
N1NB 554 236 16 392,232 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
KB1GW 626 195 22 365,626 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
WN6K 528 228 15 361,152 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
K9GY 460 94 129,720 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
K6KYJ 294 139 19 122,598 WIRED LIL' PISTOLS
N3SD 252 152 114,912 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
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NA SOAB(A) HP
KE2TR 1934 414 40 24,000,786
K3WW 3356 523 48 5,265,564 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W2RE 3239 506 45 4,915,284 HVCDX
K2DM 2514 453 39 3,415,167 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W1GD 2278 448 38 3,061,632
W2GDJ 2201 433 40 2,859,099 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
N8TR 2015 471 40 2,847,195 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
K5KG 2046 430 38 2,638,050 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
AA3B 2051 408 39 2,510,424 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K3PP 1848 381 32 2,112,264 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W3MF 1688 408 26 2,066,112 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N0AV 1361 385 24 1,570,800
N8KM 1465 357 40 1,569,015 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
N3ZA 1204 416 38 1,502,592 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
VE1OP 1417 346 28 1,462,542
K8LN 1232 363 24 1,341,648 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
ND5S 1018 427 23 1,302,777 GREAT LAKES DX / CON
WT3W 1134 349 24 1,187,298 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K1GU 1142 335 36 1,147,710 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
K0KX 1116 338 16 1,128,582 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
W8CAR 1256 269 20 1,013,592 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
W3GH 1012 311 1,012,305
N2CY 1037 306 27 951,966 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
W6TK 1023 304 19 930,240 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
KA2D 1046 292 27 916,926 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W3GM (K3ND) 929 313 19 872,331 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N0XB 1072 270 24 867,510 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
K1JE 890 288 768,096 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NX5M 700 308 9 646,800 CENTRAL TEXAS DX AND
AA4V 783 266 11 623,238 CAROLINA DX ASSOCIAT
W3IQ 837 221 554,931 NORTH COAST CONTESTE
KI6T 709 245 521,115 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
NA2M 555 260 432,900 ORDER OF BOILED OWLS
W2UP 552 261 5 432,216 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
K7OX 548 235 385,635
KD2HE 530 201 319,590
K6RIM 429 226 290,862 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
KC0CZI 422 158 12 198,132
WC1M 381 165 5 188,595 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
AB1R 262 152 13 119,016
KW8W 158 106 5 50,244 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
WO9S 127 63 24,003 SOCIETY OF MIDWEST C
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NA SOSB/10 QRP
K6III 158 56 26,544 NCCC
W6RCL 140 43 18,060
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NA SOSB/10 LP
W7ZR 936 116 24 325,728 WVDXC
N6MU @N6NB 932 109 304,764 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
W7UT 721 114 246,582 UTAH'S DIXIE DX & CO
W0ETC 775 104 15 241,800 TENNESSEE CONTEST GR
N7CZ 410 80 98,400
KS2G 414 76 7 94,392 ORDER OF BOILED OWLS
N2CU 374 84 8 94,248 WESTERN NEW YORK DX
KN0V 253 759 53,889 MINNESOTA WIRELESS A
WA7BNM 100 54 2 16,200 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
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NA SOSB/10 HP
W4ZV 2212 135 31 895,860 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W5PR 2102 134 845,004 TEXAS DX SOCIETY
K9NW @K9UWA 1973 123 30 728,037 MAD RIVER RADIO CLUB
VO1MP 1795 116 624,660
K7XZ (K1MY) 1715 115 30 591,330 CENTRAL ARIZONA DX A
K7QQ 1624 113 550,536 WWDXC
K5AM 1606 111 534,798
N3HBX 1708 103 527,772 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
VA7XX 1534 112 514,752
N6ED 1300 119 464,100
VE6JY (TI2WGO) 977 111 325,008
K3JT 1044 99 309,474 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
N7YX 680 110 20 223,410 WWDXC
K8IR 479 89 17 127,626 BAY AREA WIRELESS AS
N5KB 174 76 39,672 NORTH TEXAS CONTEST
W4ZYT 127 55 2 20,955 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
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NA SOSB/15 LP
VE3RCN 175 65 24 34,125
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NA SOSB/15 HP
VE6WQ @VE6JY 277 136 1,048,152
N3RD @N3RS 2286 146 1,001,268 FRANKFORD RADIO CLUB
N2TX 2183 142 929,532 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
W7WA 2297 132 909,612 WWDXC
K6HNZ 1295 109 423,465
AD4L @N4AF 1196 118 30 423,384 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
W4SAA 320 84 14 80,720 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
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NA SOSB/20 LP
W5ZO 377 92 105,182
K0FX 234 79 5 55,458 GRAND MESA CONTESTER
VA3WN 72 42 3 8,946
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
NA SOSB/20 HP
N7DD 1344 124 499,596
WW4M @N4AF 1161 105 365,400 POTOMAC VALLEY RADIO
K4XDX 726 114 24 246,114
VE6EX @VE6JY 818 99 38 225,720
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NA SOSB/40 LP
W4NC (N4VHK) 100 47 10 14,100 CAROLINA DX ASSOCIAT
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NA SOSB/40 HP
K4XS 856 92 29 236,256 FLORIDA CONTEST GROU
VA6MA (VE6MAA) 309 72 66,744
KD4RH 116 52 12 18,096 CAROLINA DX ASSOCIAT
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NA SOSB/80 HP
VA6DXR (VE6JY) 37 24 2,592
Teams:
9A7A 9A8A, 9A7V, 9A6DM, 9A4RX, 9A4PA, 9A4BT, 9A3TR,
9A3OS, 9A2ME
HG6N HA3OV HA6DX HA6ND HA6NF HA6NQ HA6NY HA6PX
DL6RAI DL1MGB, DL2NBU, DL4RDJ, DL6RAI AND DJ5CL
OA4O OA4EI, OA4AHW, OA4BHY, OA4CRK, OA4DII, OA4DIX,
OA4DJW, OA4DKC, OA4DMR (OH0XX), DL1NL
LY7Z LY1DS, LY2TA, LY3MM
YT9X @YU1AAX YT1RU, YT1RA, YZ1KA, YU1JW, YU1ZZ, MARKO
EA5DFV EA5ON EA5CLH EC5CPL EA5DFV
V26S N2WKS KD3TB W3CF
9A1A N4PN, NF4A, 9A5W, 9A3GW, 9A6A, 9A6D, 9A7R,
9A5K, 9A8W, 9A9A
EA8ZS EA8ZS AND GALDAR CONTEST TEAM
LT1F LU1FAM, LU1FGE, LU1FT, LU1FD, LU1FKR, LU3FP,
LU3FZW, LU5FHM, LU6FQD, LU8FOX, LU2FV
KH6/W2EDD @KH AD4J, K3ZM, W4GKA
VP5B K4ISV, K4CN
FY5KE F1HAR F5MZN F6FVY FY5FU FY5FY F5HRY
PJ4G K2NG, K2TW, NO2R
TM5C F6CTT - F5MUX - F5NLY - F5VCO - F4SGU
CT9M CT3BD, CT3DL, CT3EE, CT3EN, CT3HK, CT3IA,
CT3IQ, CT3KU
OM0M OM3BH, OM3CHL, OM8DX, OM8AW
OM7M OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OE2S OE2GEN, OE2LCM, OE2MON, OE2VEL
IQ4T I4IFL I4MNY IK4HVR IK4MGP IK4MGX IK4SXJ IK4WMH
PW0T PY7ZZ, PY7XC, PY5CC, PY5HSD, PT7BZ, PY1RO,
PY0FF, N6FF, PY7ZY
SN8V @SP8YMM SP8GQU, SP8ARY, SP8GWI, SP8LBK, SP8NCF, SQ8BGJ
LU1NF LU1NDC, LU2NI & LU8NA
PI4TUE PA3EZL PE1PRG
LA2Z LA3BO, LA6MV
IO4T IK4RQJ, IK4VET, IK4XCL, IK4ZHH, IK4ALM, IZ4DIJ
VK4UC VK4UC;NO7T
V31MF V31MF/KC5ZT
K4JA K4JA, K4MA, K9JY, KE9I, W3BP, KG9X
KI1G KI1G, K1NG, WF1B,KS1J,K1JN,K1SD,KB1LN
KR1G WA1S NR1DX W1AAX WC1M KR1G
N4TO K1TO, N4DL, N4TO, T93M, T93Y
K1IR AA1AA, K1EP, K1IR, KM2P, W1VE
KB1H KB1H, NB1U, N1XS, K1EBY, AA1CE, KB1DFB, W1TJL,
W3TB, KE1LI
W5KFT W5KFT, W6PH, K5TSQ, K5PI, W5TA, W5JEN, W5TD
VE6SV VE5FN VA6EA VE6AKY VE6EZ VE6NAP VE6RFM VE6SV
K2RD WA1FCN W1CU K2WR K2RD
NK7U NK7U, K7ZO, W7ZRC, WA7LT, KK7A, K7MK
N5TW WM5R NA4M KM5TY N5DUW WS4G W5TD N5TW
VE1JF VE1JF, VE1AI, VE1AMJ, VE1DHD, VE1HC, VE1MOO
AA5NT N3BUO, KK7JS, WD5FLK, N1CC, N5NJ, AA5NT,
KC5LOS, KC5SDY, W5GDC
KK1L KK1L, K1KD, W1SJ, W1DEC, AA1SU, K1WEY, N1ZUK,
K1HD, KC1WH
VE7SCC VE7HHS VA7DX
N3BB W5JEN, W5RQA, W5TA, WR5Q, KD5QJV, N3BB
KC1XX K1GQ W1FV AD1C HC1OT K6AW W1MD W2RQ K1XX
K9NS AA9D,K9DX,K9HMB,K9NO,K9PPY,K9PW,K9QVB,K9RO,
K9RS,KO9A,KS9W,W9RM,WE9V.
W2FU W2FU, K2UA, N2MG, K2AXX, K2DB, K2TER, K1PY
W1FJ @W1KM NB1B, W1KM, N1TB, N1NK, W1NA, W1FJ
N2RM N2RM N2NC WM2H
W3PP W3PP N6ZO K3FT N3KW W2GJ KB3FEE W3PAR N3PT KW3Z
K3ANS K3ANS, N3PUR, N3MX, KB3CBO, K3YD, W3ZL, KC3WX,
W0RSJ
K3NM K3IPK,K3ZV,LU9AY,K3NM
N6RO K3EST, K6RC, K6TA, K6KO, KI7WX, W6SR, N6BV,
N6SNO, N6RO
W4MYA N4DEN, N4EHJ, K4KJL,K4KML,K4WMA,KF4QQY,W4HZ,
W4MYA,WK4Y
W8ZA K3DNE, K8OQL, ND3A, N8II, W8ZA
W2CG W2CG, W2EN, W2NO, K2WJ
K3OO @K3OOO K3OO & K3OOO
K3CT @K3II K3CT, K3II
NY4T NY4T N4LKE W1ADE KR4FO KG4RDF KG4MHK
K8AZ K8AZ, K8BL, K8NZ, ND8L, W8KIC, WB8K, WT8C
W0GU @N2IC N2IC,NA5S,K0KR
W4MR @AA4NC AA4NC, N4YDU, K4HA
K8CC K8CC, K8GL, KE8OC
K5NZ W5BA , K5GA , K5NZ
K0DU K0CL, N0ZA, KC0DKX,K0UK
K2XR K2XR+K2OWR+WB2WIK
NE3F KS3F K3ATO NT3V NG3Z KB3GWY
K5NA K5NA, K5DU, KI5DR, N5ZC, K2UR, NT5C
N5YA N5YA, WX0B, N5KR, K5MR, K5WO, KR5F
K2KQ K2KQ, W2WB
N1MM N1MM, N1IXF
VA3RU VE3NZ VA3RU
KR0B KR0B,NOBKL,KS0T,N0RA,KJ0B,K0KP,KB0KQA
W0ZT W0ZT, K0SR, K0XN
K0TV KB1PZ W1ES NF1A K0TV
N1LN W5MF, K7LEX, W5MJS, N1LN
VE3HG VE3HG, VE3RZ, VA3GGF, VA3EC
W6EEN W6EEN, K6XC, W6AQ, W6ORD
K0FJ K0FJ K0BJ KC0JAO
W3LJ W3IDT K3NCO KA3UBJ W3LJ
K9ES K9ES, AD4ES
>From K4tmc at aol.com Fri Apr 5 22:27:18 2002
From: K4tmc@aol.com (K4tmc@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Huntsville, AL
Message-ID: <d3.976099e.29dfc516@aol.com>
Any contesters in the Huntsville area? I'll be in town visiting Wyle Labs
for a few days and wondering if there are any local club meetings happening.
Or, would anyone be interested in contest strategy discussions during dinner
one evening?
73,
Henry Pollock - K4TMC
Raleigh, NC
>From k7qq at netzero.net Sat Apr 6 06:47:34 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <00ee01c1dd2f$ca75be40$fb1dfa43@computer>
Hey Bob U can do like I do Archieve them then U have too many per band file
to even look at them
QUACK
----- Original Message -----
From: <bob.wruble@verizon.net>
To: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>; "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 17:25
Subject: Re: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> forcing u to upload all of ur logs is a stupid move in my opinion
> becuz that sends a endless stream of eqsls to stations that
> have no interest in getting them .... like me!
> why do i need 20 qsls from k7qq each contest season??
> or from other domestic contest stns??
>
> i have not uploaded any of my annual 30k plus contest
> qsos to eqsl for this very reason ....... i saw eqsl as a great tool to
> respond to the constant drone of incoming qsl requests
> that follow/plague contesters ........
>
> i want to support the paper chasers in the hobby in exchage for their
wking
> me in the contests ......... but now it looks like this
> can't be done without uploading the logs?
>
> lifes a bitch and then u die!
>
> de w7gg/ai7b/ww7or
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
> To: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:42 PM
> Subject: Fw: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> > Quacks
> > I find that in most cases where I have one that isn't correct its is
> simply
> > a bad time or band in the Log that I uploaded or his log. When U reject
> > just put in the time shown in Ur log and if he wants the card he can
> obtain
> > it that way. I don't even look at the ards that come thru. I respond
> when
> > I get SASE /$ I have 5 years of cards at the buro that I may get some
> day.
> > I load logs to e-QSL right after a contest so I don't have to confirm
> them.
> > The recient chang at e-QSL makes for a bigger job but no BFD. I still
am
> > tring to work WAS.
> >
> > Quack
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ted demopoulos" <kr1g@hotmail.com>
> > To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 03:10
> > Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> >
> >
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > > You are not quite right, although close. If the times are off or
> something
> > > else is wrong (and you probably won't know what, just that you worked
> > > P5/KR1G on 160 and the logs have been submitted and you don't have
> > credit),
> > > you would de *exactly* what you do today - send P5/KR1G's QSL manager,
> > > KC1XX, a note saying "man I know I'm in the log can you double check
> > > please?" And Matt may find a problem, like your call K1IR was logged
> > > correctly on the cheap one-ply toilet paper KR1G used for logging
> because
> > > his laptop ran erratically on P5 power but copied into the computer
log
> > > incorrectly.
> > >
> > > As far as being too strict, blame me!! The biggest strength and reason
> for
> > > the prestige of the DXCC program is its security - yes, you can scam
it.
> > > Print your own DL, and G and EA6 and PYOF cards and submit them and
> > they'll
> > > probably pass. Try that with a P5 or VU7 card and it gets *much*
harder.
> > > They do catch cheaters quite often I'm told. Any eQSL system MUST be
at
> > > least as secure! If its too secure and a too much of a hassle (the two
> go
> > > hand in hand), it can be loosened later. We did consider possible (in
> some
> > > cases probable) attacks and some of the "features" are designed
> especially
> > > for them. Yes, I am Paranoid - its my job :)
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Ted KR1G
> > >
> > > >From: Jim Idelson <k1ir@designet.com>
> > > >To: CQ-Contest Post <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> > > >
> > > >Personally, I think the new ARRL Logbook of the World policy of what
we
> > can
> > > >call "double-blind confirmation" is unnecessarily strict. What's the
> > point?
> > > >If
> > > >you and I want to create a fictitious QSO, we can do it easily. We
> submit
> > > >the
> > > >information from both ends, and it is a QSO. Serious DX stations
review
> > > >their
> > > >logs to ensure QSOs are good. But, if I'm mobile and I work a good
one,
> > but
> > > >I
> > > >don't log it, I'm not going to get the confirmation. And, if our
clocks
> > are
> > > >off
> > > >by too much - no QSO. If we make an error in filling out the on-line
> > QSL -
> > > >no
> > > >QSO - and no way to track it.
> > > >
> > > >What do the DXCC Rules say?
> > > >
> > > >"2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV
apply,
> > > >written
> > > >proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication (contacts) must be
> > > >submitted
> > > >directly to ARRL Headquarters for all DXCC credits claimed . . . .
> Staff
> > > >may
> > > >accept electronic confirmations when procedures to do so are
adopted."
> > > >
> > > >and,
> > > >
> > > >"4. Confirmation data for two-way communications must include the
call
> > > >signs of
> > > >both stations, the Entity name as shown in the DXCC List, mode, and
> date,
> > > >time
> > > >and band."
> > > >
> > > >For about 65 years, confirmation in written form from the DX
station -
> > > >solicited or unsolicited - has been the benchmark. This new
> double-blind
> > > >confirmation requirement definitely raises the bar for electronic
> QSLing.
> > > >
> > > >It's always a pleasure to get unsolicited QSLs. It would be a
pleasure
> to
> > > >get
> > > >them electronically, too. The beauty of a cool QSL design - whether
> > printed
> > > >or
> > > >electronic is a welcome surprise - even if it is not a needed
country.
> > > >
> > > >Don't be fooled. This new QSL policy is really a major change in ARRL
> > DXCC
> > > >policy. It is now being forced on eQSL in exchange for possible DXCC
> > > >accreditation - and it is a giant step in the wrong direction.
> > > >
> > > >73,
> > > >
> > > >Jim Idelson K1IR
> > > >email k1ir@designet.com
> > > >web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
> > > >
> > > >_______________________________________________
> > > >CQ-Contest mailing list
> > > >CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > > >http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> > >
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
>
>From ei4hq at qsl.net Sat Apr 6 08:22:35 2002
From: ei4hq@qsl.net (Cormac, EI4HQ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re eQSL change of policy...
Message-ID: <005001c1dd3b$d3e08440$0200a8c0@CormacGebruers>
I've been following this thread with some interest. I've some clarifications if
I may. All the questions below relate to statements made in emails on this
thread...
Is it the case that US stations are not required to maintain a general logbook
of all contacts?
How is eQSL "charging" for "free" QSL's?
How is eQSL effectively behaving as a QSL manager?
Cormac, EI4HQ
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>From BobK8IA at aol.com Sat Apr 6 07:23:24 2002
From: BobK8IA@aol.com (BobK8IA@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New Contesting Radio?
Message-ID: <1a8.421a45.29e042bc@aol.com>
>From http://www.tentec.com/TT565.htm
"Instant Two Radio Mode" allows ORION to instantly QSY between two different
bands. Two linear amplifiers, two sets of accessory devices via dual band data
outputs and two antennas can optionally be connected to ORION to allow
instantaneous QSY.
Unfortunately is still "looks like a TenTec"
73, de Hans, K0HB
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Hi Hans;
I guess I've been away from contesting too long as I didnt realize that they
gave points for how sexy the radio one is competing with looks! <g>
Seriously, if a radio yields the perfomance and flexiblility necessary for
that competitive "edge" I couldnt care less what it looks like. And
competition is why we all subscribe to this thread, right?
Nope, I am not a Ten Tec user/owner but the Orion certainly intirgues me.
Take care..see ya
73, Bob K8IA
Michigan USA
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Sat Apr 6 07:20:29 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New Contesting Radio?
In-Reply-To: <001c01c1dcd7$fe2fa820$0215be3f@bigguy>
References: <200204040414.g344E4Al014484@contesting.com>
<079501c1db94$22bae140$03010a0a@office1>
<01f101c1dc24$a0cedf10$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
<00b901c1dc2e$a9cc7640$a6dd43d8@N1>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020406071307.02516ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 08:27 PM 4/5/02 +0100, K0HB wrote:
>Unfortunately is still "looks like a TenTec"
Yeah, but ... It looks as if they have clearly given ergonomics a lot more
thought than Yaesu et al. Look where the knobs are -- no important
controls on little bitty knobs along the bottom edge of the radio where you
almost need tweezers to get at them. No letting the shape of the previous
panel casting drive the new control layout...
Also, cascading narrow crystal filters in the first IF with IF DSP further
back sure makes sense to this layman, compared to wide roofing filters with
the sharpness at the back end -- if it works as described, there may be a
lot of MPs and Mark V's on the used market.
>From k7qq at netzero.net Sat Apr 6 16:41:28 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: K6III has rejected one of your eQSL log entries
Message-ID: <013a01c1dd81$c8332800$fb1dfa43@computer>
Quacks
I don't have any logs prior to 1997 in ADIF format so I just tell those
prior to that date no chance of confirmation.
I have found that by sending an e-mail to some rejections with date, time,
and band they are able to get confirmation if they desire. Its a bit of a
hassle, but part of the price of contesting. I have 44K Q's uploaded and
have maybe looked at 2 or 3 that have come in via e-qsl.
Don't complain guys just archieve them and delete the reject messages from
e-QSL if its too much bother.
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: <k6iii@juno.com>
To: <k7qq@netzero.net>
Cc: <k6iii@arrl.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 06:59
Subject: Re: K6III has rejected one of your eQSL log entries
> Yea, right.... need another eQSL like a....
> The new eQSL inbox format is not my idea of the way to go, but, then I
> guess that's the price to get the accredited for DXCC, etc...
>
> Trying to find old logs from 12-13 years ago is a no go...
>
> 73 es see u in the next contest.
>
> de Jerry/k6iii
> San Jose, CA
> On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 06:30:33 +0100 "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net> writes:
> > Tnx 100"s of Q's in contest I really need this confirmation HA HA.
> > 73 and
> > CU in the next one
> > Quack
>
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Apr 6 13:54:36 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re eQSL change of policy...
References: <200204061702.g36H2XAl032110@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <005201c1dd9c$c477b260$03010a0a@office1>
Cormac,
Good questions. Short answers:
1. For many years, the US FCC has not legally required us to keep a
logbook -- and some don't. We are encouraged to do so but it's no longer a
legal requirement.
2. eQSL will print and mail a QSL that has been put in your electronic "in
box." Right now this is only available in North America. They will charge,
at present, $1 per card, with a $5 minimum charge to set up your "account."
3. If anyone prints a QSL card with your call on it, and sends out that
card based on your log, they are acting as a QSL Manager. eQSL's present
system of charging for cards means that they are doing just that, since the
printed card is based on your log. This is why many amateurs have now
pulled their logs from eQSL.cc.
73, ron wn3vaw
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over."
-- The Firesign Theatre
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cormac, EI4HQ" <ei4hq@qsl.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re eQSL change of policy...
I've been following this thread with some interest. I've some
clarifications if I may. All the questions below relate to statements
made in emails on this thread...
Is it the case that US stations are not required to maintain a general
logbook of all contacts?
How is eQSL "charging" for "free" QSL's?
How is eQSL effectively behaving as a QSL manager?
Cormac, EI4HQ
>From thompson at mindspring.com Sat Apr 6 15:08:03 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ten Tec Orion and limited SO2R
Message-ID: <006901c1dda6$c2b165c0$476156d1@default>
Hans, K0HB mention of the ability of the orion to handle limited two radio
function can easily be accomplished now with Software defined radios SDR.
The Orion and the FT1000D allows limited SO2R and now the Orion allows a
second amp and antenna. Even back in the late 60's Hallicrafters SR2000 and
SR400 allowed two frequency operation at once so you could run on say 14155
and tune the band with the other VFO. Both allowed dual RX without switching
between the two VFO's. This can be done (less the dual duplex RX) with
most transceivers. My older FT980's allow me to work satellite on 21.230
and receive on 28.940.
SO2R is easy when you are Single band because there is usually no need for
another amp and antenna. Multi band SO2R is more complicated. Even the
logging software has to be set up properly to record the right rig and band.
On the writelog reflector a common complaint is that the wrong band or mode
was logged and how do you fix??
73 Dave K4JRB
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Sat Apr 6 19:08:38 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References:
<20020405122256.5465.c002-h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <013601c1ddd0$c00c1d40$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
> present system or any future system. But the machine can stop an
> individual from fraudulently taking advantage of some else's error. Is
> it worth it the inconvience?
A machine can also obscure a small but pertinent piece of information (e.g.
log entry is local time not UTC) that would allow a human to quickly
identify and verify a questionable qso in a collection of logs. While a
machine can present a barrier to fraud it can also present a barrier to
knowledge. Furthermore, erecting machine barriers of any kind can turn a
system design into an endless exercise of dealing with exceptions -- these
systems can collapse under their own complexity. Wisdom suggests that just
because it can be done by machine does not mean it should be done.
> Anyone got a different solution?
Accept the simple realization that an ARRL award or any other award for that
matter is simply that an award. We do not need to build a Fort Knox to
protect these awards. And yes cheaters will some times get certificates - so
what! Why not build a system that follows an age old amateur radio community
tradition of striving to enable the exchange of knowledge and not hinder it.
A twist. All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as well
as more check logs!
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From ve4xt at mb.sympatico.ca Sat Apr 6 20:25:23 2002
From: ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K7RI, KH6J, K7QQ, K7BV, K9NS, W1YK
Message-ID: <003401c1dddb$792308c0$0100a8c0@joe>
Hi, if you're one of these guys, I want to hear from you!
I'm writing the QST report for 2001 ARRL SS Phone, and I need to talk (type)
to you about your station and your effort.
Please e-mail me at ve4xt@mts.net or reply to this message.
Thanks!
Kelly
VE4XT
>From ve4xt at mb.sympatico.ca Sat Apr 6 21:17:32 2002
From: ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Did you miss just one sect. in SS Phone?
Message-ID: <00a901c1dde2$c1cefdc0$0100a8c0@joe>
Please tell me which one it was. Just doing a quick poll for a report on SS
in QST.
Thanks.
Kelly
ve4xt
>From k7qq at netzero.net Sun Apr 7 07:49:15 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <004701c1ddf7$f7be77c0$052bfa43@computer>
Quacks
The following by VE5XZ is an exlent idea for LOtw and would encourage more
contest activity I'm sure by the casual op's who are looking to get WAS ,
DXCC, and band states , countries. I hope others in the Contest community
will push this idea.
Rex K7QQ
> > Anyone got a different solution?
>
> Accept the simple realization that an ARRL award or any other award for
that
> matter is simply that an award. We do not need to build a Fort Knox to
> protect these awards. And yes cheaters will some times get certificates -
so
> what! Why not build a system that follows an age old amateur radio
community
> tradition of striving to enable the exchange of knowledge and not hinder
it.
>
> A twist. All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
> contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
> award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
> required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as
well
> as more check logs!
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
> Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
> Saskatoon, SK
> "A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Sun Apr 7 07:10:23 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (K0HB)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <004701c1ddf7$f7be77c0$052bfa43@computer>
Message-ID: <003901c1ddf2$86e715c0$3d11be3f@bigguy>
Sure sounds like a no-brainer to me.
"Way back when" such contacts in ARRL DX Contest were creditable.
73, Hans, K0HB
> > A twist. All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
> > contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
> > award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
> > required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as
> >well as more check logs!
>From ve3pn at igs.net Sun Apr 7 08:05:25 2002
From: ve3pn@igs.net (PETER BARRON)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #87 - 9 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200204060555.g365t1Al022144@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000501c1de02$97c4c300$98f4a8c0@HOMEOFFICE>
I also read that with interest BUT does it allow true two radio mode i.e. Rx
on radio 2 whilst TX on radio1
Its does say (my underlining)
""Instant Two Radio Mode" allows ORION to instantly QSY between two
different bands. Two linear amplifiers, two sets of accessory devices via
dual band data outputs and two antennas can optionally be connected to ORION
to allow instantaneous QSY (useful for seeking out and working stations on
one band during a contest while CQing on a different band, for example)."
This IMPLIES that radio 1 can be CQing i.e. Transmitting on one band whilst
Rx on another BUT does not specifically say that one can
Peter
Ve3pn@igs.net
From: "K0HB" <k0hb@earthlink.net>
To: "MWA Reflector" <mn-wireless-assn@yahoogroups.com>,
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New Contesting Radio?
>From http://www.tentec.com/TT565.htm
"Instant Two Radio Mode" allows ORION to instantly QSY between two different
bands. Two linear amplifiers, two sets of accessory devices via dual band
data
outputs and two antennas can optionally be connected to ORION to allow
instantaneous QSY.
Unfortunately is still "looks like a TenTec"
73, de Hans, K0HB
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Sun Apr 7 08:11:27 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020407071051.00c60220@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
Sylvan,
The below used to be the case. I'm not sure when it
stopped, but it was a good deal for those taht don't
like to QSL. I have often thought that it would be a good
deal to bring it back.
As you say, with the software that is in place now, they
could just credit you and then notify you later...hi.
73, Tom K5IID
At 19:08 04/06/02 -0600, you wrote:
>A twist. All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
>contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
>award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
>required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as well
>as more check logs!
>From k7zo at cableone.net Sun Apr 7 11:04:32 2002
From: k7zo@cableone.net (K7ZO (Scott Tuthill))
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX M/S Rules Question
Message-ID: <004101c1de4d$e7e3d240$6401a8c0@3ComC>
To all: I have a question on the WPX M/S rules. I was at NK7U last weekend
and we were going to operate M/S but then realized that we either did not
understand the M/S rules and/or Writelog could not manage it. Overall the
M/S rules are very familiar as they match CQWW. The question is with respect
to serial numbers. The rules state: " One -- and only one -- other band may
be used during any 10-minute period if -- and only if -- the station worked
is a new multiplier. Use a separate serial numbers for the multiplier
station...."
Does this mean you would have, potentially, two separate serial number
sequences on a given band? For example, NK7U starts the contest and is
running on 10M. I find a new mult on 15M and work it giving it serial number
1. I then go on to find several other mults giving them serial number 2, 3,
4, and 5. Then later when 10M dies and NK7U moves to 15M and starts running
what serial number does he start with. Does he start with 1 since that would
be a separate serial number sequence for running. Or does he use 6 since
that would be the next serial number in the 15M band sequence?
We could not figure it out so we ended up running a 2 person M/M instead.
Then the flares pretty well wiped things out anyway....
Thanks for your help.
Scott/K7ZO
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Sun Apr 7 14:18:56 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL awards/contest logs
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHGEKMDEAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
Ve5ZX wrote:
>All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
>contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
>award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
?required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as well
>as more check logs! ... sylvan
And I think it's a GREAT idea. Suggest it to your ARRL director!
N2EA
>From w7why at harborside.com Sun Apr 7 21:11:06 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <s1h8xf5bc0ebapn.030420022037@designet-jsi>
Message-ID: <3CB099CA.B49A99EE@harborside.com>
Jim Idelson wrote:
> What do the DXCC Rules say?
>
> "2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV >apply,
> written proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication >(contacts) must be
> submitted directly to ARRL Headquarters for >all DXCC credits claimed . . .
Most of the cards I now get just have a label affixed to them.
Anyone can get (or make) a card and print a label. They are
rarely signed any more and they usually cone in an envelope so
they have no postmarks or stamps on them. I remember the last
time I got a bunch of samples from a QSL card printer they had
some pretty good DX cards in them. Just print out some labels
and stick them on a card and mail them in. How is that more
secure than an eQSL?
Tom W7WHY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sun Apr 7 18:25:55 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 SP DX Contest - Claimed scores 07Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020407171945.00aa55a0@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 SP DX Contest - Claimed scores 07Apr2002
Log Due: April 30, 2002
E-mail logs to: spdxc-logs@pzk.org.pl
Mail logs to:
Polski Zwiazek Krotkofalowcow
SPDX Contest Committee
P.O. Box 320
00-950 Warszawa
Poland
Find rules at: http://www.sp5zcc.waw.pl/spdxc/reg_g.html
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
3830 Archives - http://lists.contesting.com/_3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABCW
SN7N (SP7PS) HP 1013 0 192 24 361,728
N1RR HP 522 0 84 19 131,544
VE3QAA HP 500 0 81 121,500
VE1OP HP 363 0 63 15 68,607
W4SAA HP 297 0 68 60,588
AB2E LP 172 0 61 10 31,476
N6ZZ HP 165 0 53 26,235
VE9DX LP 27 0 15 1,215
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABMixed
RD4M (UA4LU) HP 403 552 77 19 220,605
K3WW HP 404 360 85 14 194,565
N2ED HP 433 329 80 14 178,080
N9RV HP 149 2 45 2 20,385
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABSSB
VE6POL @VE6JY HP 0 486 52 20 74,880
VE3BUC LP 0 70 210 3 6,090
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/10SSB
VA3KA HP 0 223 16 8 10,704
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/20CW
K2SX HP 88 0 16 4,224
K9NW LP 8 0 6 144
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/20SSB
M0GTO LP 0 30 11 2 990
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/80CW
LY2NXW LP 102 0 16 4,896
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/80Mixed
LY2FY HP 0 162 31 7 14,973 KTU RC
Band Breakdowns:
160 80 40 20 15 10
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABCW
SN7N (SP7
004/000/017 13/000/033 24/000/036 32/000/050 18/000/036 8/000/020
N1RR 006/000/003 33/000/016 58/000/016 131/000/016 165/000/017
129/000/016
VE3QAA 001/000/001 39/000/016 58/000/016 125/000/016 164/000/016
113/000/016
VE1OP 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
/000/000
W4SAA 000/000/000 7/000/006 59/000/016 71/000/014 80/000/016
80/000/016
AB2E 000/000/000 11/000/009 46/000/016 59/000/015 45/000/015
11/000/006
N6ZZ 000/000/000 /000/000 14/000/010 47/000/016 78/000/016
26/000/011
VE9DX 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 15/000/007
12/000/008
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABMixed
RD4M (UA4 031/000/013 98/000/016 169/000/016 335/000/016
332/000/016 /000/000
K3WW 005/000/005 42/003/016 64/000/016 102/112/016
117/165/016 74/080/016
N2ED 005/000/003 23/000/013 46/005/016 100/067/016
174/196/016 85/060/016
N9RV 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 34/000/014 83/020/016
32/000/015
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABSSB
VE6POL @V
000/000/000 /000/000 /016/011 /206/016 /241/016 /023/009
VE3BUC 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /002/006 /034/102
/034/102
>From k2kw at prodigy.net Mon Apr 8 22:16:55 2002
From: k2kw@prodigy.net (K2KW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Visalia Contest Dinner - Gett'n short!
Message-ID: <005401c1df7d$6337ec80$b11daace@main>
Visalia is just around the corner... Don't miss out on the best dinner at
Visalia!
The Northern California Contest Club Presents the 4th Annual International
DX Convention Contest Dinner on Friday, April 26, 2002.
EVENING EVENTS:
Dinner, guest speaker, lots of contesters & DXers & door prizes. We are
pleased to announce the evening presentation: Dr Beldar's Contest
Emporium - Products you might not see at HRO...
Doors and cash bar open at 7:00 p.m. Dinner is served at 8:00 p.m.
Full details are available on the International DX Convention web site:
http://www.qsl.net/visalia2002/events.html
Dinner Choices: Prime Rib of Beef -- $29.00 or Chicken Princess -- $23.00
Purchase tickets from:
Tom Taormina, K5RC
Productivity Resources
PO Box 1126
Virginia City NV 89440
775-847-7929
775-847-7930 (FAX)
K5RC@aol.com
73, Kenny K2KW & Steve, K6AW
Organizers, 4th Annual International DX Convention Contest Dinner
>From MPeiperl at london.edu Mon Apr 8 20:01:22 2002
From: MPeiperl@london.edu (Maury Peiperl)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
References: <200204081603.g38G37Al008268@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <3CB1DAF2.10704@london.edu>
Sylvan, that may be the single best idea I have ever heard in the DXCC /
Awards area. You are talking about confirmed contacts; that is, contacts
for which the League already has both logs and has compared them. Yes cards
are nice and there is nothing like the look and feel of a good, rare one,
but this doesn't do away with that; it merely supplements it with
incontrovertible
data provided by the amateurs themselves.
I for one would even be willing to pay (within reason) for such a service.
I could finally collect my 5BDXCC, which with two small kids and the other
pressures of mid-life, I might otherwise never manage to get all the cards
for.
73
Maury W3EF / G0UHK
Ve5ZX wrote:
All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
?required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as
well
as more check logs! ... sylvan
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Mon Apr 8 15:17:21 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL awards/contest logs
References: <200204081603.g38G38Al008271@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <021b01c1df2b$26fbaba0$03010a0a@office1>
I believe this is the direction they're headed in with the implementation of
the Cabrillo format, and ultimately with Logbook of the World (although
that's not all LotW is going to do).
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
----- Original Message -----
From: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Cc: <k1ki@arrl.org>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL awards/contest logs
Ve5ZX wrote:
>All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
>contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
>award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
?required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests as
well
>as more check logs! ... sylvan
And I think it's a GREAT idea. Suggest it to your ARRL director!
N2EA
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Mon Apr 8 15:27:24 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204081603.g38G38Al008271@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <021c01c1df2b$27efcfa0$03010a0a@office1>
Most of the cards I've been getting lately have either been filled out by
hand, or the label has been either signed or stamped in some way to indicate
"verified by" the QSL manager(s) and their assistant(s).
While it is true that it's not that hard to make up a card, making up a full
color glossy card using the same photo(s) as many of the DXpeditions use
today, well, that's another story. And I really can't believe it would be
worth all the time, effort, and money to duplicate most of these cards, and
make them convincing enough to pass muster -- and why would you bother with
anything but the toughest ones anyway?
I think we can accept, though, that if someone is really determined enough,
they can fool the system -- and since people check the cards, mistakes
happen and invalid cards are sometimes accepted (and good ones not). Be so
as it may...
Look, the electronic QSL concept isn't neccesarily a bad one. eQSL.cc's
implementation of it has, sadly, left a lot to be desired -- they may have
been "first," but I sure wish they'd gotten it right instead.
But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their printed
eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real breakthrough.
And those of us who still feel the old fashioned "QSL card is the last
courtesy of a QSO" mantra can still exchange cards either via paper or
electronically as we so choose.
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Osborne <w7why@harborside.com>
Reply-To: w7why@harborside.com
Organization: Amateur Radio W7WHY
To: CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Jim Idelson wrote:
> What do the DXCC Rules say?
>
> "2. Written Proof: Except in cases where the rules of Section IV >apply,
written proof (e.g. QSL cards) of two-way communication >(contacts) must be
submitted directly to ARRL Headquarters for >all DXCC credits claimed . . .
Most of the cards I now get just have a label affixed to them.
Anyone can get (or make) a card and print a label. They are
rarely signed any more and they usually cone in an envelope so
they have no postmarks or stamps on them. I remember the last
time I got a bunch of samples from a QSL card printer they had
some pretty good DX cards in them. Just print out some labels
and stick them on a card and mail them in. How is that more
secure than an eQSL?
Tom W7WHY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 8 21:44:15 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (Michael Dinkelman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 SP DX Contest - Claimed scores 08/Apr/2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020408204255.00a16d00@mail.eskimo.com>
2002 SP DX Contest - Claimed scores 08/Apr/2002
Log Due: April 30, 2002
E-mail logs to: spdxc-logs@pzk.org.pl
Mail logs to:
Polski Zwiazek Krotkofalowcow
SPDX Contest Committee
P.O. Box 320
00-950 Warszawa
Poland
Find rules at: http://www.sp5zcc.waw.pl/spdxc/reg_g.html
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
3830 Archives - http://lists.contesting.com/_3830/
Submisssion info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
M/S
SP8YMM HP 690 890 216 24 780,192
RT9W HP 1496 95 426,360 BASHKIRIAN DX CLUB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABCW
SN7N (SP7PS) HP 1013 0 192 24 361,728
N1RR HP 522 0 84 19 131,544
VE3QAA HP 500 0 81 121,500
NY1S LP 367 0 65 13 71,175
VE1OP HP 363 0 63 15 68,607
W4SAA HP 297 0 68 60,588
F6IRF LP 268 0 63 50,652
AB2E LP 172 0 61 10 31,476
N6ZZ HP 165 0 53 26,235
N4GG HP 150 0 47 3 21,150
OM9ANL (F6FNL) LP 113 0 31 6 10,509
WN6K LP 50 0 17 2,550
VE9DX LP 27 0 15 1,215
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABMixed
SP2DWG LP 1003 165 330,165
UA9CDC HP 333 600 91 17 254,709
RD4M (UA4LU) HP 403 552 77 19 220,605
K3WW HP 404 360 85 14 194,565
N2ED HP 433 329 80 14 178,080
KM5G HP 244 73 57 54,207
N9RV HP 149 2 45 2 20,385
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOABSSB
VE6POL @VE6JY HP 0 486 52 20 74,880
VE3BUC LP 0 70 210 3 6,090
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/10SSB
VA3KA HP 0 223 16 8 10,704
W5PR HP 0 185 16 8,880
VK2CZ HP 0 26 13 2 1,014
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/20CW
K2SX HP 88 0 16 4,224
K9NW LP 8 0 6 144
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/20SSB
M0GTO LP 0 30 11 2 990
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/80CW
LY2NXW LP 102 0 16 4,896
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Pwr CW SSB Mult hrs Score Club
SOSB/80Mixed
S53F LP 42 159 32 19,296
LY2FY HP 0 162 31 7 14,973 KTU RC
Band Breakdowns:
160 80 40 20 15
10
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
M/S
SP8YMM 037/000/011 84/000/025 264/000/040 447/000/000 502/000/000
246/000/000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABCW
SN7N (SP7
004/000/017 13/000/033 24/000/036 32/000/050 18/000/036 8/000/020
N1RR 006/000/003 33/000/016 58/000/016 131/000/016 165/000/017
129/000/016
VE3QAA 001/000/001 39/000/016 58/000/016 125/000/016 164/000/016
113/000/016
NY1S 000/000/000 4/000/004 33/000/014 109/000/015
135/000/016 86/000/016
VE1OP 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
/000/000
W4SAA 000/000/000 7/000/006 59/000/016 71/000/014 80/000/016
80/000/016
F6IRF 012/000/009 39/000/014 73/000/016
133/000/016 11/000/008 /000/000
AB2E 000/000/000 11/000/009 46/000/016 59/000/015 45/000/015
11/000/006
N6ZZ 000/000/000 /000/000 14/000/010 47/000/016 78/000/016
26/000/011
N4GG 000/000/000 1/000/001 31/000/015 54/000/015 64/000/016
/000/000
OM9ANL (F
000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
WN6K 000/000/000 /000/000 1/000/001 49/000/016 /000/000
/000/000
VE9DX 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 15/000/007
12/000/008
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABMixed
UA9CDC 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
/000/000
RD4M (UA4 031/000/013 98/000/016 169/000/016 335/000/016
332/000/016 /000/000
K3WW 005/000/005 42/003/016 64/000/016 102/112/016
117/165/016 74/080/016
N2ED 005/000/003 23/000/013 46/005/016 100/067/016
174/196/016 85/060/016
KM5G 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /000/000
/000/000
N9RV 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 34/000/014 83/020/016
32/000/015
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOABSSB
VE6POL @V
000/000/000 /000/000 /016/011 /206/016 /241/016 /023/009
VE3BUC 000/000/000 /000/000 /000/000 /002/006 /034/102
/034/102
Teams:
SP8YMM SP8GQU, SP8GWI, SP8LBK
RT9W RU9WX RX9WR RW9WW RV9WA UA9WFM & RA9WR
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 8 21:31:48 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 08Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204090331.g393Vmq11703@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 08Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCC
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCC
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
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Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
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Non-USA SOAB QRP
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
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Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
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Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
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Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SOSB20 LP
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
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Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
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Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
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Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 8 21:28:53 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 08Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204090328.g393SrL11691@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX SSB - USA Claimed Scores 08Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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Call Q's Mult hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
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USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(NI2W+VE3XAP 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
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USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
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USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
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USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
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USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
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USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
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USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
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USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
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USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
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USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
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USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
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USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
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USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
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USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
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USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
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USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
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USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
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USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From ve3pn at igs.net Tue Apr 9 05:15:21 2002
From: ve3pn@igs.net (PETER BARRON)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ten Tec Orion and limited SO2R
Message-ID: <000c01c1df7d$2acc6970$98f4a8c0@HOMEOFFICE>
Follow up on this topic from Ten Tec is
"Not if it is full duplex. While transmitting, the opposite receiver will
mute.
You can instantaneously transmit on the 'sub' frequency and the other
receiver will mute. You can control all of this via the computer
interface, and use two sets of band data and two linear amps (and
separate antennas) if desired."
Seems like the only advantage is the Two separate band outputs from
the Orion.
Peter
Ve3pn@igs.net
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ten Tec Orion and limited SO2R
Hans, K0HB mention of the ability of the orion to handle limited two radio
function can easily be accomplished now with Software defined radios SDR.
The Orion and the FT1000D allows limited SO2R and now the Orion allows a
second amp and antenna. Even back in the late 60's Hallicrafters SR2000 and
SR400 allowed two frequency operation at once so you could run on say 14155
and tune the band with the other VFO. Both allowed dual RX without switching
between the two VFO's. This can be done (less the dual duplex RX) with
most transceivers. My older FT980's allow me to work satellite on 21.230
and receive on 28.940.
SO2R is easy when you are Single band because there is usually no need for
another amp and antenna. Multi band SO2R is more complicated. Even the
logging software has to be set up properly to record the right rig and band.
On the writelog reflector a common complaint is that the wrong band or mode
was logged and how do you fix??
73 Dave K4JRB
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Tue Apr 9 10:02:21 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] (no subject)
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHCEMHDEAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
-0- snip
what's really important isn't the eQSL
"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real breakthrough.
73, ron wn3vaw
-0- snip
Yes. THAT is the central point.
>From what I can see, eQSL.cc, by using the double blind system, has
created the cross-referenced data. It's the access for award determination
that's the remaining roadblock.
Don't forget, eQSL.cc provides competition for ARRL in this arena. ARRL
is in no way motivated to work with the eQSL data. Indeed, it has proposed
a competitive response, in LotW.
73, Jim, N2EA
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Tue Apr 9 09:29:59 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <021c01c1df2b$27efcfa0$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204090805350.962-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
>
> I think we can accept, though, that if someone is really determined enough,
> they can fool the system -- and since people check the cards, mistakes
> happen and invalid cards are sometimes accepted (and good ones not). Be so
> as it may...
>
This always brings up a question with me. Why would someone want to fake
a QSL or a QSO on one for DXCC credit? I am an honest man and I don't
even have the slightest desire to do this. Maybe that is why I have a
hard time understanding those who would. Who are you really cheating if
you present a false card? Only yourself.
There could be a few who are just trying it to see if they can get away
with it - to "fool the system", as you said. I would guess that they care
so little about the DXCC program that they just want to see how far they
can stretch it.
I just received a QSL from a DXpedition which had QSO's on many bands
on it. I did notice that the person who filled it out by hand noted the
frequencies worked as "3.5" ... "7" ... "14" ... "18." ... "24" ... "28"
Notice the period after the "18" that wasn't on the other frequencies?
It's apparently there so no one can change it to "1.8" on the card.
> Look, the electronic QSL concept isn't neccesarily a bad one. eQSL.cc's
> implementation of it has, sadly, left a lot to be desired -- they may have
> been "first," but I sure wish they'd gotten it right instead.
>
> But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their printed
> eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
> "card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
> securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
> awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
> check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real breakthrough.
> And those of us who still feel the old fashioned "QSL card is the last
> courtesy of a QSO" mantra can still exchange cards either via paper or
> electronically as we so choose.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
I don't have anything against eQSL's. I still like the paper ones, though.
It's more fun to show them to non-hams once in a while. I've even gotten
a few people interested in ham radio by showing them DX cards.
One question about the LoTW project is what about the rare DX station who
doesn't have a computer and keeps paper logs? Is someone going to get his
logs and put them in digital format and send them to ARRL?
Just food for thought, in case there are any hungry minds this morning.
:-)
73, Zack W9SZ
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Tue Apr 9 14:42:08 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020409124208.013c6500@pop.vnet.net>
WN3VAW wrote:
>But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their printed
>eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
>"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
>securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
>awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
>check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real breakthrough.
I just uploaded ~37K of contest QSO's to eQSL for the past few
years and see no major security problems with the way eQSL is implemented.
In fact, it is actually more strict than I would be if I were answering
QSL's directly where I would recognize problems like "wrong band", "wrong
time" due to local time, "wrong date" for the contest, etc. eQSL does
make it difficult to diagnose these problems but you can always reject
the card and ask the sender to check his data again.
I totally agree with Ron's statement above. I am personally aware
of numerous attempts to submit false confirmations for 160 QSO's over the
years and the ultimate test of these is not the quality of the printing,
etc, but the QSO data which is in the log. If a QSO is in question, ARRL
has on several occasions contacted the QSL manager to request actual log
data to verify questionable QSL's. Making complete log data available will
make it VERY easy to catch erroneous confirmations and should improve the
integrity of the system currently used at ARRL. In fact, I suspect the
current system is not nearly as "clean" for most DXCC QSL's as it is for
160 confirmations which are checked at ARRL HQ with someone looking at
a greyline map to weed out obvious problem QSO's. eQSL and LotW should
make the system even better!
I feel eQSL and LotW are major steps in the right direction for
all of us. They will improve the integrity of awards and will especially
make life easier for those of us making many contest QSO's who may not
enjoy the QSL burden that comes with them.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From N5RP at pdq.net Tue Apr 9 10:16:50 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Internet packet feeds to other software
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020409091119.00b80c30@pop.pdq.net>
I could not find a consolidated source of information that outlined how to
get packet spots off of the Internet and have those spots fed into my NA
contest software, as well as feed any other software that might desire to
see a TNC as it's packet data collector. I use the following setup to grab
packet data for my DX4Windows software and for all DOS based contest software.
1)
I connect to the Internet for my packet spots using a program called
DX-Telnet, written by Fabrizio Sartini,
see: http://www.qsl.net/wd4ngb/telnet.htm
DX-Telnet has means for maintaining connection, re-connecting after
connections fail, and other niceties all built into the program.
I have used two methods for sending packet data to my main radio station
computer.
One method uses inter-computer communication within my home network.
The other (and better) method uses a spare computer (surplus laptop) to go
grab Internet packet data and then feed that data to an available COM port
on my main ham radio computer where I run contest software and my normal
day to day logging software.
I grab all of my packet spots using a high speed DSL connection via this
surplus laptop computer. That computer has to have the DX Telnet program on
it and two other necessary programs (UDPSEND & DXT4WIN), both of which are
included and sourced from Fabrizio.
Basically, the three programs that are needed to get Internet sourced
packet spot feeds from the laptop to my main station computer running NA or
DX 4 Windows are:
DX-Telnet - Gets the data from the Internet
DXT4WIN - Allows the main station computer to talk back to and into the
laptop machine that is acting as the pseudo TNC
UDPSEND - Allows the DX-Telnet collected data from my laptop to be fed
into my primary station computer COM port
On the packet connected computer (my laptop) I invoke UDPSEND, DXT4WIN, and
have these programs perform the rudiments of sending the DX-Telnet
collected data to a COM port on the laptop.
That laptop COM port is, in turn, connected by cable to a COM port on the
main station computer running the NA contest software or logging software.
Now then, you just configure the NA software or logging software as though
it were connected to a TNC, and the spots from the laptop are sent to the
main station computer COM port just like a normal TNC process.
After doing this setup of making an Internet grab computer feed into your
main radio station or contest computer, NA and my DX 4 Windows logging
software act as though they both have a TNC connected into the system, and
the packet spots are fed flawlessly.
This setup can feed packet spots to your computer for any program that
would normally use a TNC as its packet cluster data source.
2)
In addition to doing what I just outlined as what we might call part 1 of
the concept,
I will now lay out what we might refer to as part 2 of the concept.
That is the part where we customize the various programs to do what we
desire to accomplish.
As in the following:
UDPSEND -
In the setup for the UDPSEND program, you will have to "check" a box to
invoke the "CT Net Protocol" transmissions.
That tells the UDP program output transmissions to emulate a standard that
current DOS based contest softwares use.
DXT4WIN -
DXT4WIN does not require any boxes to be ticked, or any parameters to be set.
DX-Telnet -
aa)
DX-Telnet will require you to invoke the auxiliary COM port setup, and set
the parameters to the values that NA would normally expect to see from a
TNC such as proper COM port # and rate values of 9600,N,8,1.
For my situation, I use COM port #1 and 9600,N,8,1 parameters.
That simply tells DX-Telnet to send the info to a specified COM port on the
Internet collecting computer, and then forward that info out at parameter
value(s) that your main station computer software can read.
bb)
DX-Telnet will require you to invoke the "LINKS" parameters,
and set these values, as follows:
EXE Name = UDPSEND
Link Topic = UDP
Link Item = textin
That should do it for you.
Now then, you can use DX-Telnet with all of its filters, lights, Italian
accented announcements, dings and dongs features to go out, grab, keep
grabbing, etc. desired packet data from the variously available web sites
for same, and feed that info/data into any program that might desire to see
a TNC for its procurement process.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Tue Apr 9 16:06:39 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <200204091240.g39Ce6Al025891@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020409145049.00d23b00@pop.pacific.net.hk>
W7WHY asked how a traditional QSL with merely a computer generated label
could be more secure than an eQSL.
The DXCC Desk will check up on a card they suspect & will go to great lengths
to verify it. Perhaps an eQSL may appear to be no different than a
traditional one
to the layman, but after who knows how many cards have been processed by the
DXCC program, over the years it wouldn't surprise me they know what to look
for.
And from my experience, they certainly know a dodgy card when they see one.
73, BW2/VR2BrettGraham
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Tue Apr 9 16:20:21 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
In-Reply-To: <200204091240.g39Ce6Al025891@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020409144806.00d2eef0@pop.pacific.net.hk>
I may be QCWA material, though am still on the wrong side of 40 to have a
senior moment (or so I would like to think), but didn't ARRL used to give DXCC
credit in the past for those who worked a DX station that turned in a log
in the
ARRL DX test?
73, BW2/VR2BrettGraham
>From BobK8IA at aol.com Tue Apr 9 13:14:47 2002
From: BobK8IA@aol.com (BobK8IA@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
Message-ID: <89.163d19dc.29e46d77@aol.com>
>Ve5ZX wrote:
?
? ? All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
award for which it is considered to be a valid contact.
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----------------------------------------
This used to exist back in the 60s-70s when Bob White was running the DXCC
show.No software then, of course, but if ARRL had contest logs from both
parties you could get country credit.
Anyone know why/how they got away from that policy? I wouldnt think it would
be difficult to "re-implement", especially with Cabrillo logging!
73, Bob K8IA
Michigan USA
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>From k1ir at designet.com Tue Apr 9 14:23:24 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] (no subject)
Message-ID: <r0okp1xrmrzoj0m.090420021323@designet-jsi>
Fellow Contesters!
I am pleased to announce that the reins of YCCC leadership for 2002-2003 have
been transferred to a bold and brilliant new team:
Chris Terkla, N1XS - President
Art Holmes, W1RZF - Vice President
Don Toman, K2KQ - Activities Manager
Ed Parish, K1EP - Treasurer
Dennis Egan, NB1B - Secretary
We in New England [New York and a little bit of New Jersey, too] look forward
to another great year of exciting contest activity!
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From ei4hq at qsl.net Tue Apr 9 20:35:24 2002
From: ei4hq@qsl.net (Cormac, EI4HQ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <200204081603.g38G38Al008271@contesting.com>
<021c01c1df2b$27efcfa0$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <003701c1dff5$52e4ea40$0200a8c0@CormacGebruers>
Firstly thanks to all for answering the questions I posted in relation to
this thread on Saturday.
I emailed eQSL.cc and requested information on the "new" InBox situation.
Specifically I asked them about the strictness of the time match. The answer
I consider to be perfectly reasonable is that an acceptale match is one
where the times are within +/- 1 hour of each other. Sure if you're time
zones are screwed up then you might have a problem but otherwise I can't see
how that aspect of things would be a cause of upset for anyone. Everyone
does keep their logs (those that are required to...) in UTC... don't they?
A few general comments;
I'd consider how ARRL treats DXCC to be entirely up to them as its their
award. Hence the introduction, arrangements & management of LotW and their
acceptance/rejection or otherwise of eQSL.cc entirely up to them. If you
don't like what they're doing then don't apply for the award - otherwise
accept the rules as they make them...
I'm quite frankly amazed that US stations are not legally required to keep
logs anymore - no doubt it was debated high up and low down at the time but
seems nuts to me. How do I know that any US station I QSL has any idea I've
worked them - sounds like I could (feasibly) attempt random qsling and
probably get enough cards to claim WAS... almost worth trying as an
experiment :o) Also it must make enforcement & policing more difficult -
perhaps this is a good thing in the eyes of a certain portion of the ham
population ;o)
Those who QSL out of courtesy - there are many who appreciate your efforts
and I can see how the changes could cause inconvenience. However I suspect
anyone really serious about QSLs is still primarily in paper mode and will
be for sometime. eQSL is, at the end of the day, an "early implementer". No
doubt a consensus will be reached eventually. The amateur radio community is
no different to the world IT community - open standards etc. are a LONG time
coming and we're not there yet...
Cormac, EI4HQ
via buro, direct, eQSL.cc and any other way someone wants a QSL...
>From kr1g at hotmail.com Tue Apr 9 21:32:35 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
Message-ID: <F129N8zDo2QltZ4jN5u0000a31c@hotmail.com>
I think it is reasonable to expect LoTW to do this, although obviously not
in its first implementation.
There are all kinds of neat things eQSLing will make possible that we can
never think of.
Who thought the Internet would ever revolutionize shopping :)
73
Ted, KR1G
PS: BTW, once LoTW is up and running, I'm going for 5B+WAS - no way I have
the time to send out so many paper cards, even though I do love them.
>From: Maury Peiperl <MPeiperl@london.edu>
>To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: ARRL Awards / Contest logs
>
>
>
>
>
>Sylvan, that may be the single best idea I have ever heard in the DXCC /
>Awards area. You are talking about confirmed contacts; that is, contacts
>for which the League already has both logs and has compared them. Yes
>cards
>are nice and there is nothing like the look and feel of a good, rare one,
>but this doesn't do away with that; it merely supplements it with
>incontrovertible
>data provided by the amateurs themselves.
>
>
>
>I for one would even be willing to pay (within reason) for such a service.
> I could finally collect my 5BDXCC, which with two small kids and the
>other
>pressures of mid-life, I might otherwise never manage to get all the cards
>for.
>
>
>
>73
>
>Maury W3EF / G0UHK
>
>
>
>Ve5ZX wrote:
>
>
>
>
> All entries logs submitted to an ARRL contest and verified by the
>contest checking software should automatically be accredited to any ARRL
>award for which it is considered to be a valid contact. No eQSL or QSL
>
>
>
> ?required! Could be one way of getting more participation in contests
>as well
>
>
>
> as more check logs! ... sylvan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>From TOMK5RC at aol.com Tue Apr 9 20:30:32 2002
From: TOMK5RC@aol.com (TOMK5RC@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Where are they Now?
Message-ID: <157.c070681.29e4d398@aol.com>
I am working on a presentation for the Visalia DX Convention called "Where
are they Now" featuring old and new photos of famous contesters and DXers. I
received a lot of input from this group the first time I posted a plea so I
am asking again. If you have any photos of contesters and DXers "then and
now" I would appreciate having email copies (jpeg preferred). I can scan in
regular photos, but have no facilities for converting 35 mm slides. If you
have any other interesting photos of contesters and DXers, please send those
also or direct me to web sites that contain photos. Please explain who is in
the photos!
I will make this presentation available for others to use after Visalia. It
will be in MS PowerPoint. My deadline is 4/20.
Thanks!
Tom, K5RC
Virginia City NV
>From k4bai at worldnet.att.net Tue Apr 9 23:21:02 2002
From: k4bai@worldnet.att.net (John T. Laney, III)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SWL Reports from DE0RAY on QSOs with K3WWP
Message-ID: <3CB3A18E.95C3AFF2@worldnet.att.net>
Hello all:
After receiving a large number of requests for SWL confirmations for
alleged QSOs between myself or others that I handle cards for, all QSOs
being with K3WWP, I have confirmed with John, K3WWP, that his logs are
available on his website. He had already suspected the possibility from
other reports, but it is clear now to me that DE0RAY is sending reports
of QSOs in contests made by K3WWP and available on his website. There
is no way that DE0RAY is able to follow K3WWP to three bands in one
contest for QSOs at widely spaced times with W4AN when John is running 5
watts with indoor antennas and is doing almost exclusively S&P. I
suggest that any such SWL cards be returned as unconfirmed due to the
availability of the logs on the internet.
73,
John, K4BAI/8P9HT/8P9Z.
>From W4EF at dellroy.com Tue Apr 9 21:11:36 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Mike)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
References: <1.5.4.32.20020409124208.013c6500@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <09c201c1e03d$6d2717f0$6501a8c0@1800XP>
Wow, I am really having a hard time fathoming the pathology
of someone who would fake a QSL confirmation for 160 and
then submit it for award credit. Thats seriously twisted, but I
guess it shouldn't surprise me given what I hear going on in
pileups these days.
BTW, on a related note, would it be considered unethical
to alter a QSL to correct a mistake made by the QSL manager?
Case in point is a card I received which showed "18 MHz" in
the frequency block. The card I sent to the manager with the
"PSE QSL" request was for a 160 meter contact. My card
showed "1.8 MHz" in the frequency block. The QSL manager
presumeably verified that I was in the log since he sent me
a return QSL. I know I didn't work the station on 18 MHz
because I distinctly remember working the station on 160
meters at that time, and my log shows a match with everything
on his card except the frequency. My guess is that the manager
wasn't watching and put the "dot" on top of part of the "1" or
part of the "8". Is it ethical for me alter the card and add the dot
in, or should I spend an extra 2 bucks and request another card
to stay on the moral high ground? Would altering the card (to
correct it) inch me closer to the "twisted pathology" of the guy
who knowingly fabricates a confirmation for a QSO that he
knows didn't take place?
Sorry that this is a little of topic for CQ-Contest, but I couldn't
resist.
73 de Mike, W4EF................
---- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tippett" <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> WN3VAW wrote:
>
> >But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their
printed
> >eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
> >"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
> >securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
> >awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
> >check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real
breakthrough.
>
> I just uploaded ~37K of contest QSO's to eQSL for the past few
> years and see no major security problems with the way eQSL is implemented.
> In fact, it is actually more strict than I would be if I were answering
> QSL's directly where I would recognize problems like "wrong band", "wrong
> time" due to local time, "wrong date" for the contest, etc. eQSL does
> make it difficult to diagnose these problems but you can always reject
> the card and ask the sender to check his data again.
>
> I totally agree with Ron's statement above. I am personally aware
> of numerous attempts to submit false confirmations for 160 QSO's over the
> years and the ultimate test of these is not the quality of the printing,
> etc, but the QSO data which is in the log. If a QSO is in question, ARRL
> has on several occasions contacted the QSL manager to request actual log
> data to verify questionable QSL's. Making complete log data available
will
> make it VERY easy to catch erroneous confirmations and should improve the
> integrity of the system currently used at ARRL. In fact, I suspect the
> current system is not nearly as "clean" for most DXCC QSL's as it is for
> 160 confirmations which are checked at ARRL HQ with someone looking at
> a greyline map to weed out obvious problem QSO's. eQSL and LotW should
> make the system even better!
>
> I feel eQSL and LotW are major steps in the right direction for
> all of us. They will improve the integrity of awards and will especially
> make life easier for those of us making many contest QSO's who may not
> enjoy the QSL burden that comes with them.
>
> 73, Bill W4ZV
>
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Tue Apr 9 23:59:37 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] eQSL QSO Times
Message-ID: <000201c1e046$c4487520$d22bfa43@computer>
Quack
I had one eQsl rejection come thru that the only problem with the data for a
SS QSO was the time was off by 1 (ONE) minute. Now this is getting to the
redicilous, I don't need the confirmation but this one Q the guy sent me
log data and I replied.
Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cormac, EI4HQ" <ei4hq@qsl.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 19:35
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
> Firstly thanks to all for answering the questions I posted in relation to
> this thread on Saturday.
>
> I emailed eQSL.cc and requested information on the "new" InBox situation.
> Specifically I asked them about the strictness of the time match. The
answer
> I consider to be perfectly reasonable is that an acceptale match is one
> where the times are within +/- 1 hour of each other. Sure if you're time
> zones are screwed up then you might have a problem but otherwise I can't
see
> how that aspect of things would be a cause of upset for anyone. Everyone
> does keep their logs (those that are required to...) in UTC... don't they?
>
> A few general comments;
>
> I'd consider how ARRL treats DXCC to be entirely up to them as its their
> award. Hence the introduction, arrangements & management of LotW and their
> acceptance/rejection or otherwise of eQSL.cc entirely up to them. If you
> don't like what they're doing then don't apply for the award - otherwise
> accept the rules as they make them...
>
> I'm quite frankly amazed that US stations are not legally required to keep
> logs anymore - no doubt it was debated high up and low down at the time
but
> seems nuts to me. How do I know that any US station I QSL has any idea
I've
> worked them - sounds like I could (feasibly) attempt random qsling and
> probably get enough cards to claim WAS... almost worth trying as an
> experiment :o) Also it must make enforcement & policing more difficult -
> perhaps this is a good thing in the eyes of a certain portion of the ham
> population ;o)
>
> Those who QSL out of courtesy - there are many who appreciate your efforts
> and I can see how the changes could cause inconvenience. However I suspect
> anyone really serious about QSLs is still primarily in paper mode and will
> be for sometime. eQSL is, at the end of the day, an "early implementer".
No
> doubt a consensus will be reached eventually. The amateur radio community
is
> no different to the world IT community - open standards etc. are a LONG
time
> coming and we're not there yet...
>
> Cormac, EI4HQ
> via buro, direct, eQSL.cc and any other way someone wants a QSL...
>
>
>
>
>
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>From w9sz at prairienet.org Wed Apr 10 09:31:26 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] eQSL QSO Times
In-Reply-To: <000201c1e046$c4487520$d22bfa43@computer>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204100824390.5885-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Rex Maner wrote:
> Quack
> I had one eQsl rejection come thru that the only problem with the data for a
> SS QSO was the time was off by 1 (ONE) minute. Now this is getting to the
> redicilous, I don't need the confirmation but this one Q the guy sent me
> log data and I replied.
> Rex
That's just stupid. It will probably contribute greatly to the downfall
of eQSL.
I'm sure that we, as contesters, don't always have our clocks synchronized
to the same exact second. And every DXpedition I've received QSL's from
sent me a card, even if the times were quite a bit off. Probably, if
you're sitting on an Antarctic rock, freezing your tuchis, you don't
particularly care how exact your clock is.
QST had a note (I think in the "How's DX?" column) a while back about the
"Martti Laine rule". If the callsign logged by the DX station was off by
one character (for instance, if I got logged as W0SZ or W9SG) and the
station logged did not submit a card in a reasonable time or did not
contest the QSO, I would get the card.
I wonder how that will fit in with eQSL and LoTW?
73, Zack W9SZ
>From k5iid at ntelos.net Wed Apr 10 14:52:21 2002
From: k5iid@ntelos.net (Tom Horton)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
In-Reply-To: <09c201c1e03d$6d2717f0$6501a8c0@1800XP>
References: <1.5.4.32.20020409124208.013c6500@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20020410134702.00c66700@wvinbox.ntelos.net>
Mike,
If you are going to use the card in question for DXCC,
or probably any other award purpose, then just realize
that if the ARRL catches it, not only will the card be
returned, you could be banned from DXCC altogether.
I sent a card for Don Search to look at and say yea
or nay one time because it was a station operating
portable from another country and it had been written in pencil.
He said it was ok so I sent it in with my next update.
Just be careful.
73, Tom K5II
At 20:11 04/09/02 -0700, Mike wrote:
>Wow, I am really having a hard time fathoming the pathology
>of someone who would fake a QSL confirmation for 160 and
>then submit it for award credit. Thats seriously twisted, but I
>guess it shouldn't surprise me given what I hear going on in
>pileups these days.
>
>BTW, on a related note, would it be considered unethical
>to alter a QSL to correct a mistake made by the QSL manager?
>Case in point is a card I received which showed "18 MHz" in
>the frequency block. The card I sent to the manager with the
>"PSE QSL" request was for a 160 meter contact. My card
>showed "1.8 MHz" in the frequency block. The QSL manager
>presumeably verified that I was in the log since he sent me
>a return QSL. I know I didn't work the station on 18 MHz
>because I distinctly remember working the station on 160
>meters at that time, and my log shows a match with everything
>on his card except the frequency. My guess is that the manager
>wasn't watching and put the "dot" on top of part of the "1" or
>part of the "8". Is it ethical for me alter the card and add the dot
>in, or should I spend an extra 2 bucks and request another card
>to stay on the moral high ground? Would altering the card (to
>correct it) inch me closer to the "twisted pathology" of the guy
>who knowingly fabricates a confirmation for a QSO that he
>knows didn't take place?
>
>Sorry that this is a little of topic for CQ-Contest, but I couldn't
>resist.
>
>73 de Mike, W4EF................
>
>---- Original Message -----
>From: "Bill Tippett" <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
>To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:42 AM
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy
>
>
> > WN3VAW wrote:
> >
> > >But what keeps getting overlooked, in the zeal of some to get their
>printed
> > >eQSL .jpg files accepted, is that what's really important isn't the eQSL
> > >"card" but the log data behind that card. Now come up with a way to
> > >securely store and access that log data, so that any organization issuing
> > >awards can electronically verify an award application without having to
> > >check over QSL cards, and you've got something that's a real
>breakthrough.
> >
> > I just uploaded ~37K of contest QSO's to eQSL for the past few
> > years and see no major security problems with the way eQSL is implemented.
> > In fact, it is actually more strict than I would be if I were answering
> > QSL's directly where I would recognize problems like "wrong band", "wrong
> > time" due to local time, "wrong date" for the contest, etc. eQSL does
> > make it difficult to diagnose these problems but you can always reject
> > the card and ask the sender to check his data again.
> >
> > I totally agree with Ron's statement above. I am personally aware
> > of numerous attempts to submit false confirmations for 160 QSO's over the
> > years and the ultimate test of these is not the quality of the printing,
> > etc, but the QSO data which is in the log. If a QSO is in question, ARRL
> > has on several occasions contacted the QSL manager to request actual log
> > data to verify questionable QSL's. Making complete log data available
>will
> > make it VERY easy to catch erroneous confirmations and should improve the
> > integrity of the system currently used at ARRL. In fact, I suspect the
> > current system is not nearly as "clean" for most DXCC QSL's as it is for
> > 160 confirmations which are checked at ARRL HQ with someone looking at
> > a greyline map to weed out obvious problem QSO's. eQSL and LotW should
> > make the system even better!
> >
> > I feel eQSL and LotW are major steps in the right direction for
> > all of us. They will improve the integrity of awards and will especially
> > make life easier for those of us making many contest QSO's who may not
> > enjoy the QSL burden that comes with them.
> >
> > 73, Bill W4ZV
> >
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 09:07:21 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Oklahoma QSO Party - Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101507.g3AF7LP13048@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Oklahoma QSO Party - Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 30, 2002
E-mail logs to: w5atv@cox.net
Mail logs to:
OKDX Assn
c/o David Ratliff, W5ATV
3215 W. 40th
Tulsa, OK 74107
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
One of the new benefits of the Web based scoring pages.
Easy generation of reports for smaller test.
Support for the smaller tests. Thanks go to Bruce, WA7BNM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsDig Qs hr Score Club
SOAB HP
K5YAA 217 609 0 20 92,365 OKDX
K4BAI 17 31 0 3,164 SECC
LY3BA 7 10 0 328 Kaunas University
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 09:11:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Virginia QSO Party - Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101511.g3AFBQF13059@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Virginia QSO Party - Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 15, 2002
E-mail logs to: ks4ii@arrl.net
Mail logs to:
VA QSO Party
Call Box 59
Sterling, VA 20167
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
I know this summary is overkill and I won't send out such in
the future. Just testing the process.
Thanks for your patience.
dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph Qs hr Score Club
M/M HP
K4JA(W3BP) 312 1370 23 406,477
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Single Op HP
K4OAQ 300 0 11 72,428
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 09:51:09 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 SP DX Contest - All Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101551.g3AFp9H13092@localhost.localdomain>
2002 SP DX Contest - All Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 30, 2002
E-mail logs to: spdxc-logs@pzk.org.pl
Mail logs to:
Polski Zwiazek Krotkofalowcow
SPDX Contest Committee
PO Box 320
00-950 Warszawa
Poland
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
(Summary results are based on data reported via 3830 Submission Web Page)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph Qs Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
SP8YMM 690 890 216 24 780,192
RT9W 590 906 95 426,360 Bashkirian DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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All SOABCW HP
SN7N(SP7PS) 1013 0 192 24 361,728
N1RR 522 0 84 19 131,544 YCCC
VE3QAA 500 0 81 18 121,500 CAPITAL REGION DX CL
VE1OP 363 0 63 15 68,607
W4SAA 297 0 68 60,588 FCG
N6ZZ 165 0 53 26,235
N4GG 150 0 47 3 21,150 PVRC
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All SOABCW LP
NY1S 367 0 65 13 71,175
F6IRF 268 0 63 17 50,652 Yota Sawe DX group
AB2E 172 0 61 10 31,476 FRC
UA9FM 134 0 51 6 20,502
OM9ANL(F6FNL) 113 0 31 6 10,509
WN6K 50 0 17 2 2,550 SCCC
VE9DX 27 0 15 1,215
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All SOABMixed HP
UA9CDC 333 600 91 17 254,709 Ural Contest Group
RD4M(UA4LU) 403 552 77 19 220,605
K3WW 404 360 85 14 194,565 FRC
N2ED 433 329 80 14 178,080 FRC
G0DVJ/P 122 380 54 13 81,000
KM5G 244 73 57 54,207
N9RV 149 2 45 2 20,385 SMC
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All SOABMixed LP
SP2DWG 554 449 165 330,165
YL2PN 66 16 24 4 5,904 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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All SOABSSB HP
VE6POL(@VE6JY) 0 486 52 20 74,880
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VE3BUC 0 70 210 3 6,090
VE7AVV 0 78 22 11 5,148
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All SOSB/10SSB HP
VA3KA 0 223 16 8 10,704 Capital Region DX
W5PR 0 185 16 8,880 TDXS
VK2CZ 0 26 13 2 1,014
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph Qs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/20CW HP
K2SX 88 0 16 4,224 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph Qs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/20CW LP
K9NW 8 0 6 1 144 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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All SOSB/20SSB LP
9A7P(9A6XX) 0 70 11 1 2,310
M0GTO 0 30 11 2 990
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph Qs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/80CW LP
LY2NXW 102 0 16 4,896
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph Qs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/80Mixed HP
LY2FY 52 110 31 7 14,973 KTU RC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph Qs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/80Mixed LP
S53F 42 159 32 19,296
Operators:
RT9W RA9WR,RU9WX,RV9WA,RW9WW,RX9WR,UA9WFM
SP8YMM SP8GQU,SP8GWI,SP8LBK
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 10:14:02 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101614.g3AGE2213117@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCC
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCC
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
L5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 10 10:16:25 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204101616.g3AGGPO13126@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 10Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
>From gm3woj at talk21.com Wed Apr 10 21:58:13 2002
From: gm3woj@talk21.com (Chris Tran GM3WOJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Internet packet feeds to other software
Message-ID: <003701c1e0ca$22ef2c80$668efea9@chris.tranbtinternet.com>
Hi Bob et al
I've been experimenting connecting NA to a DXCluster node
using Telnet - K1TTT's WinTelnetX 4.11
The configuration below works successfully for NA 10.54, so
I guess should be OK for NA 10.55, which I have not had time
to try yet. I'm using 2 PCs networked with NA, and a third PC
running WinTelnetX under W98. For simplicity the set-up
below uses COM1 on the Windows PC, and COM1 on one of the
networked NA PCs. The DXCluster node I use (GB7BIG) is
running AR-Cluster software.
---------------------------------------
Connect together the COM ports on the 2 PCs (1 x NA PC
and 1 x WinTelnetX PC) using a serial cable where pin2 at one end
connects to pin3 at the other end and vice versa.
-------------------------------------------
NA 10.54
Under 'Config', select f4 Serial Port Setup :
port adr baud device IRQ
COM1 3F8 9600 TNC 4
Select f5 Equipment Configuration :
TNC Type : LOCAL
----------------------------------------------
WinTelnetx 4.11
COM
Select - Add new ComPort :
Port COM1
Baud 9600
Bits 8
Parity None
Stop bits 1
Flow RTSCTS
Name COM
Is TNC False
Buffer 32000
Keep alive time 0
Port Data Type CT User
Dupes 0
CR/LF 1
TEL
Select - Add new Network - Connect :
Host name or IP marnet.dns2go.com
Port number 23
Name TEL
Is TNC False
Buffer 32000
Keep alive time 0
Port Data Type Cluster User
Mycall INET
Antiloop Px <
Dupes 0
CR/LF 2
Prompt call: Response GM3WOJ
Add - Routes COM <-> TEL 2-way
--------------------------------------------
Hope this helps anyone who's trying to do the
same thing - the advantage of this over DXTelnet
is that only 2 pieces of software are running.
73
Chris GM3WOJ
>From ei4hq at qsl.net Wed Apr 10 23:28:54 2002
From: ei4hq@qsl.net (Cormac, EI4HQ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] eQSL QSO Times
References: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204100824390.5885-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <001601c1e0d6$b876c860$0200a8c0@CormacGebruers>
I've received several [off-line] responses to my email about eQSL time
matching for QSO's - some quite entertaining and all in the right spirit I
hasten to add!
A number of them highlighted problems with the time matching - it certainly
doesn't appear that eQSL is giving the +/1 hr leeway that they suggests it
should be in several situations - whether its a glitch or something else is
afoot I don't yet know.
I'm going to mention this to them tonight in a follow up email (no specifics
just a general observation that people are having problems with it) and see
how they respond.
EI4HQ
>From ik2bcp at hamlan.org Wed Apr 10 23:41:09 2002
From: ik2bcp@hamlan.org (Guido Tedeschi, ik2bcp)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] An optocoupled isolator for Yaesu CAT
References: <000201c1e046$c4487520$d22bfa43@computer>
Message-ID: <00c301c1e0d0$2038fe70$20a3862c@Main>
Hello All,
I designed a simple optocoupled isolator for connecting the CAT
interface of our Yaesu FT1000MP MK5 to a PC.
The optocoupling avoids electrical and RF problems that you can have with a
simple RS232C cable in a contest environment.
If anyone is interested, go to http://www.hamlan.org/tech/tech.htm
Ciao and 73
Guido, ik2bcp / iu2r / ab9dg
>From ns3t at arrl.net Wed Apr 10 21:58:16 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
Message-ID: <003301c1e0f4$0a0dc080$0000a398@COMPUTER>
After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB contest over
the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
to those in charge of the WPX contest.
I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
More later.
Jamie NS3T
>From N6HC at aol.com Wed Apr 10 23:29:06 2002
From: N6HC@aol.com (N6HC@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL QSO Times
Message-ID: <18b.63b5eba.29e64ef2@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/10/02 1:59:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
w9sz@prairienet.org writes:
> QST had a note (I think in the "How's DX?" column) a while back about the
> "Martti Laine rule". If the callsign logged by the DX station was off by
> one character (for instance, if I got logged as W0SZ or W9SG) and the
> station logged did not submit a card in a reasonable time or did not
> contest the QSO, I would get the card.
>
I wish that the ZL9CI expedition followed the "Martti Laine rule". I got my
QSL card returned for a SSB contact because they had N5HC instead of N6HC in
their log at the exact time that I worked them! They refused to confirm my
contact! What a bunch of anal compulsives. I wonder if they ever got a QSL
from N5HC?
With best regards,
Arnie
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>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Wed Apr 10 23:32:36 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
Message-ID: <b4.9baaf49.29e64fc4@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/11/2002 2:09:06 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
ns3t@arrl.net writes:
> I again found evidence of
> disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
> to those in charge of the WPX contest.
>
Jamie,
I too am appaled at the thought of self-spotting or even disguised
self-spotting.
However, I am curious why you will be forwarding any findings of your
analysis to "those in charge of the WPX contest". Have you been designated
by the contest sponsors to do this analysis and report your findings, or are
you self appointed in this role? If you have been hired by the contest
sponsors to report your findings, I would like to see the criteria on which
you will base your judgement outlined in the contest rules. If you are self
appointed, I'd suggest you find something better to do. You are getting
yourself into a big rat trap, in my opinion!
What is the point of reporting any findings? Will those cited be
disqualified? And how will you really determine what is legitimate, but
frequently repeated spotting, during the contest vs. malicious self-spotting.
I for one do a lot of packet Assisted contest operating. It is my favorite
mode of contesting. Many times I will spot a DX station over and over when I
tune across them. I do this especially late in the contest when activity
waines for the DX station. I am alway hopeful that my spotting will bring on
those Q's on a band or mode previously missed by others. This is especially
true for Sweepstakes spotting.
Let me explain. Take a contest regular, such as HC8N. What is the harm in
spotting HC8N many times over on each band as you tune across him? The
intent is do drive traffic to him. Of course!
I'd appreciate your comments.
73, Geo...
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 11 06:58:07 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXSpider DX Cluster manual
Message-ID:
<20020411055808.46.c002-h012.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
I have posted the manual (in PDF) for the DXSpider
DX Cluster software on the YCCC website (under menu
item: Resources)
http://www.yccc.org/Resources/DXCluster/dxspider.pdf
(Thanks to Ken, K1EA, for the file)
73 Mike N2MG
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>From f5nly at free.fr Thu Apr 11 18:07:11 2002
From: f5nly@free.fr (F5NLY)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
References: <003301c1e0f4$0a0dc080$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Message-ID: <002201c1e16a$8f956480$915e933e@default>
Wow, interesting to see some sounds of "auto-spotting"... a point read in
WPX rules.
73 Lee.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jamie Dupree
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:58 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB contest over
the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
to those in charge of the WPX contest.
I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
More later.
Jamie NS3T
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>From widelitz at gte.net Thu Apr 11 09:03:07 2002
From: widelitz@gte.net (Ken Widelitz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team
U.A. E.
In-Reply-To: <01c1e14c$ddb6e6c0$LocalHost@default>
Message-ID: <BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>
So now you are selecting a station designer and letting him bring in his
hired guns to operate for him? Does he get to bring his towers and antennas
with him?
Its your stadium, your football, your rules, but this one makes no sense.
73, Ken, K6LA
>From david.e.burger at au.pwcglobal.com Fri Apr 12 12:02:31 2002
From: david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com (david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Contest Spots
Message-ID: <OFF871A305.4C75F0AD-ONCA256B99.0004E8D0@aap.pwcinternal.com>
I have never been able to use spotting in any contests, as generally my
contest station is out of range of convention carrier networks, but was
amazed to see I had been spotted over 20 times - and by people I do not
know - bar one.
I understand there is an Assisted Class in many contests, and they can use
the spottingnetwork and whatever quality (or quantity) that may bring.
The real issue is self spotting as mentioned in the rules - so if you saw a
VK8AA spot by VK2CZ then that would be grounds for disqualification as I
hold both calls.
Leave it to the WPX organisers to do proper data mining and come up with
their decisions.
David VK8AA / VK2CZ
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>From artinian at siol.net Fri Apr 12 09:34:35 2002
From: artinian@siol.net (Marijan Miletic, S56A)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Crown Plaza Dayton 17. 5. for KH1 crew
Message-ID: <009d01c1e1fc$e2cf5010$0100a8c0@S56A>
Any spare room available at Dayton Crown Plaza for KH1 returning crew led by
YT1AD?
Direct answers to artinian@siol.net would be appreciated until April 19th.
73 de Mario, S56A, N1YU
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>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Fri Apr 12 15:29:15 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ES OPEN on April 20th!
References: <BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>
Message-ID: <00a001c1e215$47457750$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Hallo dear friends and contesters,
I would like to invite you to participate in ES OPEN HF CHAMPIONSHIPS that will
take place on next Saturday, April 20th, 0500 to 0859 UTC. It is an interesting
short HF Contest on Saturday morning on 80 and 40 meters and there will be many
ES stations in the air! The best places will be awarded with beautiful trophies
from ERAU. You can also easily fulfil the requirements for ESTONIA AWARD. We
hope very much for active participation also from Western and Southern Europe
and even from other continents - You are very welcome!
NEW "COMPUTER FRIENDLY" RULES AND 2001 RESULTS are now available from:
http://www.erau.ee/modules.php?op=modload&name=Info&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=68&newlang=eng
You can also find TR LOG CONFIGURATION FILES FOR ES OPEN from the web site
above!!! TR LOG CAN BE EASILY USED FOR LOGGING NOW!!! Other logging programs
fit also well with new rules!
You can download TR Files directly from:
http://www.erau.ee/esopen.zip
Rules are new, more interesting and very easy now:
Contest takes place on 80 and 40m at the same time and in both modes.
There are 4 one hour periods: 0500 - 0559, 0600 - 0659, 0700 - 0759, 0800 -
0859 UTC.
You can work each station two times in one period regardless of mode - once on
40m and once on 80m. Thus 8 times in total during the contest.
Non ES stations can work only ES stations.
Each CW QSO gives 2 points and each SSB QSO gives 1 point.
Multipliers are ES region prefixes on each band and mode - thus maximum 40 for
A, D and F classes and 20 for B and C classes.
Report: RST + QSO number
Logs should be sent to esopen@erau.ee
Please check ERAU web site above for complete Rules and results from previous
years!
Please forward that info also to other fellow hams in your region who are
interested in contesting!
Hope very much to see you all in ES OPEN!
73
Tonno
ES5TV
ERAU HF MANAGER
es5tv@erau.ee
www.erau.ee
p.s. Please contact me for any questions and comments or if you want me to send
you TR Files via e-mail!
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>From k3mm at comcast.net Fri Apr 12 11:20:35 2002
From: k3mm@comcast.net (k3mm@comcast.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 -
Team U.A. E.
References: <BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>
Message-ID: <00f201c1e22d$3683d660$6400a8c0@Home>
Sure it does....money talks...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Widelitz" <widelitz@gte.net>
To: <ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi>; "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:03 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team
U.A. E.
> So now you are selecting a station designer and letting him bring in his
> hired guns to operate for him? Does he get to bring his towers and
antennas
> with him?
>
> Its your stadium, your football, your rules, but this one makes no sense.
>
> 73, Ken, K6LA
>
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>From geoiii at kkn.net Fri Apr 12 10:42:27 2002
From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III - K5TR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team
U.A. E.
In-Reply-To: <BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>; from Ken Widelitz
on Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 08:03:07AM -0700
References: <01c1e14c$ddb6e6c0$LocalHost@default>
<BMELLFEAJLMCBCIGAHLOMEJPCLAA.widelitz@gte.net>
Message-ID: <20020412094227.F15721@loja.kkn.net>
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 08:03:07AM -0700, Ken Widelitz wrote:
> So now you are selecting a station designer and letting him bring in his
> hired guns to operate for him? Does he get to bring his towers and antennas
> with him?
>
> Its your stadium, your football, your rules, but this one makes no sense.
The team selection criteria was spelled out by the WRTC 2002
folks on June 5th 2001.
You can find it here:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/teams1.htm
This team would appear to be:
"The Organizer's Wild Card Team" as listed under the Special Teams section.
I dont see a problem with this - they are only doing what they planned to do.
Besides N6ZZ and K1ZM are compenent operators.
--
George Fremin III - K5TR
geoiii@kkn.net
http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Fri Apr 12 12:19:59 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest spots/this weekends antenna work
Message-ID: <01d801c1e235$82fdcde0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Like K5KG I find myself using packet during several contests and whenever I
tune past a station as he signs I type in his callsign...if it is a dupe
rather than just F11 I hit Alt-F3 (think that is it) to spot that station to
the cluster...mebbe the next guy will not stop there as it pops up on his
band map! I know I will spot the same guy many times during a contest...but
I do not keep mental note of this - that is what the machines are for.
This is not a slam on your observations...I find them interesting and the
thought of self spotting makes me sick...kind of like the unqiue principal
though - it should only be used as a POSSIBLE indicator of foul play... if a
guy gets spotted a lot more power to him as long as he ain't doin' it...he
is a "beacon" which ultimately your winners should be - never knew anyone
who S&P'd their way to #1!
In case you were getting ready to tune up for the next major contest - it is
the Florida QSO Party on April 27 & 28 - tweak your antennas for max gain
into Florida - we will be waiting for you! Follow the mobile teams as they
amass QSOs criss-crossing Florida.
15 days until FQP 2K2 - Florida fixed stations and mobiles please check into
the website and notify NS4W of your plans to activate which county(ies).
Check out the website at:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp/
Most of the counties have turned from Green to Orange - looks like more
clean sweeps will be available this year! Handsome certificates and plaques
are awarded each year - check out last years results and the rules and
records for the FQP at the above site - DEFINITELY READ THE EXCELLENT
WRITEUP BY K1TO, contest log crunching don't get any better!
FQP 2K2 - thanks to YOU we're running 'em!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
Florida Contest Group - sponsors of the Florida QSO Party
>From ddddd at attbi.com Fri Apr 12 10:06:09 2002
From: ddddd@attbi.com (Dave Tucker)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
Message-ID: <B8DC5400.3792%ddddd@attbi.com>
Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like to set
the record
straight for one and all
I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX whenever I was
in S&P
mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many were dx,
many were
domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O numerous times
is in
no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can only spot a
station
once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say, that's my
favorite band.
NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact was in
friendly
competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East and West
coast
stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed because I
didn't happen
to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I appreciated
the spots
that others posted.
Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need this crap
in our hobby.
Dave Tucker KA6BIM
Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
"After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
contest over
the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
to those in charge of the WPX contest.
I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
More later.
Jamie NS3T"
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Fri Apr 12 13:53:40 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] self-spotting
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEAJDFAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
Folks,
Self-spotting is just one more 'difficult to administer' situation,
where there is opportunity for deception, and no readily apparent
solution.
I would recommend keeping it simple.
If you are single op....you shouldn't be assisted, period.
If you're on an expedition, your home call shouldn't be calling
you out, as it suggests you're assisted by the folks at home.
If you are either m/m, m/s, or SOA, then you're assisted, anyway.
A socially accepted norm for self spotting ought to be developed..
say once or twice an hour, for discussion purposes.
The possibility of someone cloaking themselves as you, and spotting
you just to disqualify you, exists. There was recent evidence of it
coming out of EU on the CQDXirc site. How to protect against it?
Then comes the really interesting part....all of your club buddies
decide to 'help' you by calling you out early and often, so your
expedition can set a new record. More difficult to track and
administer...and possibly done out of ignorance or genuine good
will. The solution? Raise the penalty, so nobody can fail to be
aware of it. Castration might be on the extreme side....
and it would increase the risk of having a flock of dx coming back to
an increasing population of "yl's". So maybe the contest organizers
should contemplate enabling a "protest" scenario, as is done in
sailboat racing. DQ the entire club, AND expedition, if there is
even the suspicion of collusive behavior. The burden of detection is
placed on the contestants. File protest at the end of the race.
Sponsors get to be the judges.
There are significant differences in prop times among packet systems.
So it's possible for three or four guys to spot HC8N around the same
time, while being unaware of the OTHER guys who spotted. And not all
packet systems are linked during contests. Makes the problem even
knottier.
The alternative? No rule. No limit. Packet is...whatever the
bandwidth will support. But SO still can't use it. That's easiest to
administer.
Jim, N2EA
>From ad1c at yahoo.com Fri Apr 12 12:16:24 2002
From: ad1c@yahoo.com (Jim Reisert)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest spots/this weekends antenna work
In-Reply-To: <01d801c1e235$82fdcde0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20020412181624.42134.qmail@web13602.mail.yahoo.com>
--- Jim White <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> Like K5KG I find myself using packet during several contests and whenever I
> tune past a station as he signs I type in his callsign...if it is a dupe
> rather than just F11 I hit Alt-F3 (think that is it) to spot that station to
> the cluster...mebbe the next guy will not stop there as it pops up on his
> band map! I know I will spot the same guy many times during a contest...but
> I do not keep mental note of this - that is what the machines are for.
The "machines" also have a band map which will tell you if the station has been
spotted recently. I don't spot stations that are still in my band map. This
keeps the number of redundant spots down.
73 - Jim AD1C
=====
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USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
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>From k6iii at juno.com Fri Apr 12 19:18:01 2002
From: k6iii@juno.com (k6iii@juno.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
Message-ID: <20020412.181803.-354851.2.k6iii@juno.com>
Good solid and reasonable reply, Dave. I saw many of your spots and
appreciated them. I too spotted many friends so our NCCC guys could find
them; many more than once. I don't see the point ns3t is trying to make.
Certainly self-spotting is contrary to the rules, but spotting other
stations, no mater how many times is not against the rules. I wonder
where ns3t was observing these spots; perhaps some telnet node somewhere,
and what is his evidence (and criteria) for determing a self-spot has
occurred. Rather annoying to make this accusations without supporting
evidence.
de Jerry/k6iii
San Jose, CA
On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:06:09 -0800 Dave Tucker <ddddd@attbi.com> writes:
Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like
to set the record straight for one and all
I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX
whenever I was in S&P mode. I was very active and probably sent over
350 spots. Many were dx, many were domestic. Some more than once. That
I happened to spot NR6O numerous times is in no way a violation of any
rule. Where does it state that you can only spot a station once? <<<
snip >>>
Dave Tucker KA6BIM
>
>
>
> Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
>
> "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> contest over
> the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with
> the
> reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
> disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be
> forwarded
> to those in charge of the WPX contest.
>
> I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that
> frequently
> spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say
> that
> they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest;
> some
> of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
>
> MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
>
> 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
>
> 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
>
> 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
>
> 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
>
> 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
>
> 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
>
> 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
>
> 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
>
> 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
>
> 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
>
>
> More later.
>
> Jamie NS3T"
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>From ki9a at aol.com Fri Apr 12 15:50:42 2002
From: ki9a@aol.com (ki9a@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots-getting old!
Message-ID: <2DC7111B.73CBF469.00003FFE@aol.com>
C'mon guys. this tread is getting real old!
Here it is:
1) self spotting is illegal. Don't do it.
2) spotting others is OK. Do it. There are no limits. Deal with it.
I have recently started using packet during contests, it makes it a bit more
intersting for us little pistols. Yeah, damn right I spot my buddies. Show me
in the rules where I can't. I also spot guys who I don't even know, but I do
know they are out there busting their butts during any given weekend. Then,
there are the rare mults that I spot.
If someone has enough time to go over THOUSANDS of WPX spots, then post them
according to who spotted who, they really,really need to get a life!
If you don't like packet, don't use it. Period.
73-Chuck KI9A
>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 12 12:23:30 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PACKET AND SPOTTING
Message-ID: <02b401c1e257$87f81860$5a2afea9@sbcglobal.net>
I read with great amusement of all the foibles the packet-eers have thrust
upon themselves with accusations of "self spotting", etc etc, ad nauseum.
Be careful of what you ask for. You just might get it.
Jim Neiger
N6TJ
>From ns3t at arrl.net Fri Apr 12 18:06:52 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: NS3T's wild accusation
Message-ID: <001e01c1e265$f89e9040$5f20fccd@jvpcb01>
Dave -
Thanks for your note.
I am making no accusation of any wrongdoing by KA6BIM. I'm sorry you
see it differently. I merely ran some numbers. I don't believe
you did anything wrong at all.
I'm just searching for people who are abusing the system with
multiple spots of other stations.
Hope to work you sometime down the line.
73s
Jamie NS3T
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>
> To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:06 PM
> Subject: NS3T's wild accusation
>
>
> > Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like to
> set
> > the record
> > straight for one and all
> >
> > I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX whenever I
> was
> > in S&P
> > mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many were
dx,
> > many were
> > domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O numerous
> times
> > is in
> > no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can only
spot
> a
> > station
> > once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say, that's my
> > favorite band.
> > NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact was in
> > friendly
> > competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East and
West
> > coast
> > stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed because
I
> > didn't happen
> > to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I
> appreciated
> > the spots
> > that others posted.
> >
> > Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need this
crap
> > in our hobby.
> >
> > Dave Tucker KA6BIM
> >
> >
> >
> > Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
> >
> > "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> > contest over
> > the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
> > reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
> > disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
> > to those in charge of the WPX contest.
> >
> > I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
> > spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
> > they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
> > of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
> >
> > MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
> >
> > 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
> >
> > 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
> >
> > 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
> >
> > 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
> >
> > 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
> >
> > 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
> >
> > 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
> >
> > 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
> >
> > 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> > PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
> >
> > 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
> >
> >
> > More later.
> >
> > Jamie NS3T"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Fri Apr 12 22:13:38 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots-getting old!
In-Reply-To: <2DC7111B.73CBF469.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004701c1e266$eaec97c0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Its not the fact that we don't like packet, its that we don't like
obvious attempts to get around a rule in some contests. Especially not
when there is relatively easy to track evidence from ip addresses used
to make the spots. It just takes some time to sort it all out. Database
tools make it easy to find odd patterns, the key is to sort out the
abuses from the coincidences before taking action.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of ki9a@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 18:51
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots-getting old!
>
> C'mon guys. this tread is getting real old!
>
> Here it is:
> 1) self spotting is illegal. Don't do it.
> 2) spotting others is OK. Do it. There are no limits. Deal with it.
>
> I have recently started using packet during contests, it makes it a
bit
> more intersting for us little pistols. Yeah, damn right I spot my
buddies.
> Show me in the rules where I can't. I also spot guys who I don't even
> know, but I do know they are out there busting their butts during any
> given weekend. Then, there are the rare mults that I spot.
>
> If someone has enough time to go over THOUSANDS of WPX spots, then
post
> them according to who spotted who, they really,really need to get a
life!
>
> If you don't like packet, don't use it. Period.
>
> 73-Chuck KI9A
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>From kr6x at kr6x.com Fri Apr 12 18:00:06 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 -
Team U.A. E.
Message-ID: <00ae01c1e27e$2ccdb540$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
> Besides N6ZZ and K1ZM are competent operators.
I'd be making an understatement if I seconded that
opinion. In spades. But, then, Ken is aware of this also.
I think Ken's post would come under the category of
humor for the masses on the reflector. Of course, a
lot of my own very serious posts are sometimes seen
as humor here.
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Fremin III - K5TR" <geoiii@kkn.net>
To: "Ken Widelitz" <widelitz@gte.net>
Cc: <ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi>; "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 09:42
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 -
Team U.A. E.
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 08:03:07AM -0700, Ken Widelitz wrote:
> > So now you are selecting a station designer and letting him bring in his
> > hired guns to operate for him? Does he get to bring his towers and
antennas
> > with him?
> >
> > Its your stadium, your football, your rules, but this one makes no
sense.
>
> The team selection criteria was spelled out by the WRTC 2002
> folks on June 5th 2001.
>
> You can find it here:
>
> http://www.wrtc2002.org/teams1.htm
>
>
> This team would appear to be:
>
> "The Organizer's Wild Card Team" as listed under the Special Teams
section.
>
>
> I dont see a problem with this - they are only doing what they planned to
do.
>
> Besides N6ZZ and K1ZM are compenent operators.
>
>
> --
> George Fremin III - K5TR
> geoiii@kkn.net
> http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>
>
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>From k0hb at earthlink.net Sat Apr 13 01:50:58 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?iso-8859-1?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: NS3T's wild accusation
References: <001e01c1e265$f89e9040$5f20fccd@jvpcb01>
Message-ID: <00ff01c1e27c$e6176700$3c11be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Dupree" <ns3t@arrl.net>
>
> I'm just searching for people who are abusing the system with
> multiple spots of other stations.
>
>From the French:
Un chasseur sachant chasser chasse sans son chien.
(A hunter who knows how to hunt hunts without his dog)
>From k2av at contesting.com Fri Apr 12 22:01:14 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: NS3T's wild accusation
References: <001e01c1e265$f89e9040$5f20fccd@jvpcb01>
Message-ID: <00ad01c1e286$b5a74d60$0500a8c0@swift>
How does one define "abuse" of the system? Who owns the rules? Who are
the enlightened, privileged ones who gets to define "abuse"? Just the
contest committees, who necessarily have that in their job
description.
Self-spotting is forbidden in contest rules, as is use of spots by
unassisted entry categories. Aside from that?
Nothing down that I know of sets any numeric limits for spotting or
any such. Nor is there anything that says you can only spot stations
in which you have no personal interest.
All the rest is just a personal take (horrors, an attempt to impose
one's own personal druthers on the masses?).
Try carefully defining "abuse" and make the case for the definition,
if you can. A contest committee might be listening, then again, maybe
not.
73, Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Dupree" <ns3t@arrl.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 5:06 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: NS3T's wild accusation
>
> Dave -
>
> Thanks for your note.
>
> I am making no accusation of any wrongdoing by KA6BIM. I'm sorry
you
> see it differently. I merely ran some numbers. I don't believe
> you did anything wrong at all.
>
> I'm just searching for people who are abusing the system with
> multiple spots of other stations.
>
> Hope to work you sometime down the line.
>
> 73s
> Jamie NS3T
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>
> > To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> > Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:06 PM
> > Subject: NS3T's wild accusation
> >
> >
> > > Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would
like to
> > set
> > > the record
> > > straight for one and all
> > >
> > > I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX
whenever I
> > was
> > > in S&P
> > > mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many
were
> dx,
> > > many were
> > > domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O
numerous
> > times
> > > is in
> > > no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can
only
> spot
> > a
> > > station
> > > once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say,
that's my
> > > favorite band.
> > > NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact
was in
> > > friendly
> > > competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East
and
> West
> > > coast
> > > stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed
because
> I
> > > didn't happen
> > > to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I
> > appreciated
> > > the spots
> > > that others posted.
> > >
> > > Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need
this
> crap
> > > in our hobby.
> > >
> > > Dave Tucker KA6BIM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
> > >
> > > "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> > > contest over
> > > the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work
with the
> > > reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence
of
> > > disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be
forwarded
> > > to those in charge of the WPX contest.
> > >
> > > I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that
frequently
> > > spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people
say that
> > > they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour
contest; some
> > > of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
> > >
> > > MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
> > >
> > > 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
> > >
> > > 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
> > >
> > > 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
> > >
> > > 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
> > >
> > > 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
> > >
> > > 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
> > >
> > > 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
> > >
> > > 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
> > >
> > > 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> > > PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
> > >
> > > 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
> > >
> > >
> > > More later.
> > >
> > > Jamie NS3T"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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>
>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 13 04:32:06 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
References: <B8DC5400.3792%ddddd@attbi.com>
Message-ID: <3CB798A6.F41D6D60@harborside.com>
Dave Tucker wrote:
>
> I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX >whenever I was
> in S&P mode.
Hi Dave
Did you ask these stations if they wanted to be spotted?? I've
read posts where lots of DX stations don't want to be spotted
during a contest. Slows the rate down considerably. Maybe we
can have a new category MSBASDAC--Most Spots By A Station During
A Contest.
Tom W7WHY
>From w3gh at kiski.net Sat Apr 13 00:35:34 2002
From: w3gh@kiski.net (Robert W. King)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Room needed at Dayton
Message-ID: <000f01c1e29c$460e4380$1dbfc3d1@oemcomputer>
Anyone have an extra room at Crowne Plaza
or willing to share expenses? May 16-17-18.
Bob W3GH
>From vk4uc at ozemail.com.au Sat Apr 13 15:15:57 2002
From: vk4uc@ozemail.com.au (John Cashen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release
#18 - Team U.A. E.
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020413140329.00ab2760@mail.ozemail.com.au>
I don't know if anyone has noticed, but the "Continent" of Oceania is not
represented in the World Championships. If a station entry in the Oceania
could have been allowed to use"hired guns" perhaps our part of the world
would have been included too. We have been hosting top contesters for CQWW
and other contests for many years now.
BTW Oceania was represented in the past two WRTCs.
73
John VK4UC
>From va3uz at rac.ca Sat Apr 13 11:24:00 2002
From: va3uz@rac.ca (VA3UZ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] My WPX CW UBN file
Message-ID: <007801c1e2f6$e8a8e6e0$0201a8c0@yuri>
Bad or non verifiable CALL SIGNS excluded from the score:
QSO: 21032 CW 2001-05-26 1530 VA3UZ 599 1047 VE3RKF 599
126
QSO: 14044 CW 2001-05-27 0315 VA3UZ 599 1976 K0IAL 599
194
Ironically, just heard K0IAL on 20 m SSB. Mike from Iowa....
One more funny thing:
QSOs found, by cross checking, to have unmatchable serial numbers not
excluded from the score:
QSO: 21032 CW 2001-05-26 1751 VA3UZ 599 1271 N6NF 599
27
..............................................Serial number should be: 1
< SNIP >
QSO: 14025 CW 2001-05-27 2241 VA3UZ 599 2887 N6NF 599
267
..............................................Serial number should be: 1
Does N6NF have all the serial numbers "1" in his LOG? :-)) Just curios.
73 Yuri VA3UZ
>From jljarvis at abs.adelphia.net Sat Apr 13 11:37:52 2002
From: jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spotting statistics
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEBGDFAA.jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
The problem with data...any data...is understanding it. NS3T's doesn't
take into account the TOTAL NUMBER OF SPOTS FROM EACH STATION. It may
be that what is reported represents only a small percentage of total spots
for any given station, and is not only not material statistically, it might
not be memorable during the heat of a contest.
Take an extreme case....Suppose a m/m has a mult hunting/spotting position.
All it's doing is feeding the station network with mults for band S&P
follow-up,
and dumping spots on the net. It might spot...10-15 an hour, for 48 hours.
That's 480 to 720 spots in a contest. Suppose there are different ops in that
chair. What is the chance they'll randomly spot HC8N 4 times on 10 meters?
When 10 is hot, I'd say pretty fair. Chances of 10-12 spots happening are
high, in fact.
What does it mean? Absolutely nothing, statistically.
Let's take the top poster on Jamie's list....IR3P. He spotted FM5GU 30 times,
half of which were on 20 meters. Is there something wrong with that? Suppose
IR3P has buddies who NEED FM, and he was making sure they knew where he was.
We don't know whether that was 100% of IR3P's total spots, or 1%; but
it was probably in the minority. It averages less than one an hour...and less
than one every TWO hours on 20 meters. Is that a lot? Doesn't seem so.
Here's another factor:
Most EU spots tend to go to DXSummit, and are visible worldwide. Some US clubs
still close their network to outside spots...and vice versa....so you might
have
more aggressive spotting within a club than is visible globally. Where's the
fairness factor there?
Again, I urge caution in reaching judgement on this issue. If you stipulate
that self-spotting is a proscribed behavior, then the only remaining question
is "what's excessive spotting of other guys?".
My response would be, "Who cares?". Why discourage spotting at all? The more
you spot, the more you drain resource that could be producing Q's for your own
station. If you overdo it, the packet bandwidth starts to backlog. It's a
self-limiting behavior, both ways.
Let's talk about something else.
Jim Jarvis, N2EA
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Apr 13 13:42:50 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <01df01c1e30a$5d503440$03010a0a@office1>
Tom,
My experience was exactly the opposite -- I had a lot of DX stations (I
stopped counting at 30) ask me to put them on the cluster. I had 2 or 3
that seemed perturbed when I declined -- one S5 station called me a, hmmm,
compared me to a portion of the human anatomy that rarely see much sunshine
(and maybe I am sometimes, aren't we all, but that still does not strike me
as an appropriate transmission during the contest!).
Personally, I found NS3T's statistics interesting but inconclusive. Since
we don't know who actually generated the spots, proving self-spotting
without further details would be difficult. Be so as it may, while I think
a rule clarification regarding soliciting for or self-spotting may be worth
considering for most contests, I don't know what more can be done.
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Osborne <w7why@harborside.com>
Reply-To: w7why@harborside.com
Organization: Amateur Radio W7WHY
To: CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
Dave Tucker wrote:
>
> I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX
>whenever I was in S&P mode.
Hi Dave
Did you ask these stations if they wanted to be spotted?? I've
read posts where lots of DX stations don't want to be spotted
during a contest. Slows the rate down considerably. Maybe we
can have a new category MSBASDAC--Most Spots By A Station During
A Contest.
Tom W7WHY
>From yt3t at absolutok.net Sat Apr 13 21:00:48 2002
From: yt3t@absolutok.net (Kele YT3T)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <001601c1e315$24df0ae0$9ce45d50@pentium>
Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
U.A.E. guest ops...
For an average YU ham, you are ALL very wealthy, and from our point of view,
the sport of contesting is "money talks' indeed. To let you get an idea, an
average YU ham has to spend his whole 2-year income to be able to set a
station consisting of: one modern transceiver, one kilowatt amplifier, one
rotor, one modest tower, one tribander and minimum of required cables and
wires. I did NOT say 2-year savings, but 2-year salaries. And just a few
months more to get a modest computer.
I do not think that A61AJ have spent his 2+year income to set his station,
just as many of you who maintain super stations.
So, the real money consumption in contesting activities happens in my
neighbourhood, and I am desperate, since they all expect me to run this
race. Oh well, I hope some of you will print your QSL cards at my printshop
:-)
73
Kele
YT3T, YU1AO
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sat Apr 13 19:19:39 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] station availability
Message-ID: <004901c1e317$c66a1b00$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
My station is available for most of the spring/summer contests. I am
booked for WPX CW, NE QSO Party, CQ-M, and maybe IARU. If you are
interested in trying out any of the other summer contests please contact
me directly. This is a chance to try out big antennas, different radios
and amps, bring friends and do a multi-op, etc.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From n4zr at contesting.com Sat Apr 13 15:43:22 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
In-Reply-To: <001601c1e315$24df0ae0$9ce45d50@pentium>
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020413144147.0532caa0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 08:00 PM 4/13/02 +0200, Kele YT3T wrote:
>Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
>U.A.E. guest ops...
I have been searching in vain for the press release that started all this
-- The WRTC web site does not have press release #18. Could it possibly be
a hoax? If not, could someone either send me the text directly or point me
to a URL?
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From japancorporateresearch at compuserve.com Sat Apr 13 16:07:20 2002
From: japancorporateresearch@compuserve.com (Hal Offutt)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Upcoming Contests for Mobiles
Message-ID: <200204131507_MC3-F9B8-FA62@compuserve.com>
Hi,
Most of you probably read the great article by Jim K8MR on mobile
contesting in the March/April 2002 issue of NCJ.
Jim pointed out the similarity between the mobile category in state QSO
parties and the WRTC: operators in both events compete from very similar
stations and under very similar conditions. He explained the great fun and
challenge of mobile contesting: laying out a route before the contest,
operating from a vehicle while enjoying the countryside scenery, good
pileups and rates, and real competition. He also noted how much fun it can
be for non-mobile stations to follow the mobiles around and work them in
each new county they enter.
Mobile contesting has become increasingly popular during the past few
years. I think this is mainly due to the involvement of contest clubs in
the resurrection of the FQP, the OQP, the GAQP and the MQP and their
success in getting a lot of first class ops out on the roads. Another
enabling factor is the availability of so many compact 12V HF rigs at
reasonable prices. More and more state QSO parties now have achieved what
I think is the minimum number of active mobiles (six to eight) necessary to
make an interesting event for all participants. I expect to see even more
mobiles out there in the future as people discover just how much fun this
form of contesting is.
Four of the best events for mobile contesting are coming up over the next
three weeks. If Jim's article stimulated your interest with his article,
you will have ample opportunity coming up to experience this brand of
contesting activity, either from your home QTH or from your own vehicle.
Brief information on these events is shown below.
First, a couple of notes:
1. These events are rapidly becoming true *CONTESTS*, not simply low-key
county hunting events. The counties are the means, not the end. Most of
the mobile operators in the events I detail below (with one exception) are
not especially interested in county hunting. If you do chase counties,
though, there's no better forum.
2. Some of the top ops in the country are getting out there on the road in
these events. Take a look at the results from previous years and at the
list of guys planning to operate this year and you'll see what I mean.
3. Although these contests are all centered in the US, activity from
outside the US is permitted and very welcome.
4. There are pileups every time a mobile changes counties. That's around
160 pileups during a 12 hour contest where 8 mobiles each change counties
20 times. This is a great opportunity to practice your pileup-busting
technique. How often can you be the first station into the mobile's log?
5. Plenty of cool wallpaper and plaques available.
Upcoming Contests with Major Mobile Activity
1. Michigan QSO Party, sponsored by the Mad River Radio Club, April 20-21
A 12 hour event from 1600Z to 0400Z Saturday (noon to midnight EDST). Nine
mobiles were active last year, with the winner making 924 contacts. SSB
and CW but emphasis on CW. Mobiles handed out nearly 5,000 contacts in
all. Attracts some of the top ops in the Midwest. Most MI counties get
activated.
Rules and results: http://mrrc.net
2. Florida QSO Party, sponsored by the Florida Contest Group, April 27-28
A 20 hour event in two ten-hour time periods: Sat 1600Z to 0159Z (noon to
10 PM EDST) and Sun 1200Z to 2159Z (8 AM to 6 PM EDST). SSB and CW, good
activity on both modes. 10 mobiles were active last year and there were
403 total log submissions. All FL counties were active. High mobile QSO
count was 1207.
Rules and results: http://www.qsl.net/fcg
3. New England QSO Party, sponsored by YCCC and several local clubs, May
4-5
A 20 hour event in two time periods: Sat 2000Z to 0300Z (4 PM to 11 PM
EDST) and Sun 1100Z to 2400Z (7 AM to 8 PM EDST).
Both SSB and CW. This is the first running of a new event that brings the
six small New England states under one QSO party umbrella. Promises to
turn some sleepy NE state QSO parties into a real contest. 8 mobiles have
already announced plans to be active, and the sponsors are aiming to get
all NE counties on.
Rules: http://neqp.org
4. County Hunters' Contest CW, sponsored by the Mobile Amateur Radio
Awards Club, May 4-5
A 48 hour event from 0000Z Saturday to 2400Z Sunday (8 PM Friday night to 8
PM Sunday night EDST). CW only. No significant activity during the night.
Fixed stations can work each other as well as the mobiles but mobiles
count 15 points against 1 point for fixed station contacts, so activity is
focussed on the mobiles. This is the only event of the year where mobiles
in different states can contact and compete with each other. 15 mobiles
were active in 2001, with the winner's QSO total at 1905 and the high
multiplier at 340. The overlap with the NEQP this year should make for
even more activity.
The Indiana QSO Party is also scheduled for Saturday, May 4 from 1300Z to
0500Z (9 AM to 1 AM) so you can work the NEQP, the CHC, and the INQP at the
same time. Info at www.qsl.net/kj9d/inqp/rules.html.
73 & GL,
Hal W1NN
______________________________________
Japan Corporate Research
Research and Consulting Services on Japan
www.japancorporateresearch.com
>From K3EST at cqww.com Sat Apr 13 13:54:08 2002
From: K3EST@cqww.com (Bob Cox)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB reports
Message-ID: <007c01c1e325$1452a460$ae2b5142@rockne>
Dear Fellow Contesters,
The 2001 CQ WW SSB UBN and NIL reports are now available for you at
http://www.cqww.com . Just find your call and click. Enter your password which
everyone who submitted an email log received. If you submitted only a paper
log your call will not appear on the list.
In a few weeks we will place a list of calls + categories + clubs on the
cqww.com web site for you to check. An announcement will be made.
The CQ WW will require the cabrillo format for submissions starting with the
2002 contest. All the non-cabrillo 2001 SSB logs on the CQ WW website have been
converted to the carbillo format by the CQ WW Committee. The cabrillo format is
available with the major contest logging programs.
Although we are sure that you are familiar with the reasons why cabrillo is
important, here is the main reason: It allows the easy assembly of all the data
necessary for compiling the results by the contest sponsor. Without cabrillo
the CQ WW Committee must deal with many, many logging formats....which takes
many, now unneeded, hundreds of hours.
Approximately 70 % of the logs received for the 2001 CQ WW SSB test were
already in the cabrillo format. This was great! Thanks.
73
Bob, K3EST
CQ WW Director
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>From bagno at mai.ru Sun Apr 14 01:43:12 2002
From: bagno@mai.ru (Dmitri Bagno (RW3FO))
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
Message-ID: <007001c1e32c$e0ca3920$0100007f@localhost>
Two nice certificates came today for EuSprint 2001 --
thank you Paolo, Dave, Bernhard & Karel!
--Dmitri (RW3FO)
>From ad6e at inreach.com Sat Apr 13 00:31:43 2002
From: ad6e@inreach.com (Alan Maenchen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
References: <B8DC5400.3792%ddddd@attbi.com>
Message-ID: <002301c1e27b$aa6fe840$0e0bfea9@am>
Thanks Dave for bringing this to light.
Its one of the reasons I've un-subscribed to CQ-Contest
If NS3T doesn't want to see all those spots he should turn it off.
So far as "self spotting" goes, he should correlate the spotter to be one of
the operators at said spotted station. Looks like his list is simply a list
of frequently spotted stations .. not self spotted. However, even that may
not "work" since an operator can legally spot a M/M station while he is
operating somewhere else, then go work from that M/M later (or earlier). No
problem for non-ARRL contests.
Al AD6E (also, part-time op at KX7M)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>
To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 17:06
Subject: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
> Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like to
set
> the record
> straight for one and all
>
> I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX whenever I
was
> in S&P
> mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many were dx,
> many were
> domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O numerous
times
> is in
> no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can only spot
a
> station
> once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say, that's my
> favorite band.
> NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact was in
> friendly
> competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East and West
> coast
> stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed because I
> didn't happen
> to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I
appreciated
> the spots
> that others posted.
>
> Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need this crap
> in our hobby.
>
> Dave Tucker KA6BIM
>
>
>
> Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
>
> "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> contest over
> the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
> reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
> disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
> to those in charge of the WPX contest.
>
> I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
> spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
> they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
> of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
>
> MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
>
> 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
>
> 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
>
> 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
>
> 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
>
> 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
>
> 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
>
> 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
>
> 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
>
> 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
>
> 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
>
>
> More later.
>
> Jamie NS3T"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCCC mailing list
> NCCC@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/nccc
>
>From ns3t at arrl.net Sat Apr 13 20:44:21 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: spotting statistics
Message-ID: <002e01c1e345$35adb670$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Jim -
Thanks for your note.
I should have been more clear in my original posting. I opened the
discussion about self spotting, but then posted data on something else.
That was probably a mistake and has resulted in a bit of tempest. :-)
So here is the background that some have asked for...and I
am making NO judgment about these spots. I simply thought
the raw numbers of spots were interesting, that's why I posted them
in the first place.
The reason I got into this is that during the ARRL contest, someone
spotted under my call. A quick review showed that's happening more
than we would probably like to admit...but that is not what these
numbers are about. These are raw numbers of what stations
spotted another station the most - that's all.
---
IR3P made 30 spots of FM5GU - IR3P made no other spots
in the contest.
S51QN made 28 spots of S58M - S51QN made only one
other spot in the contest.
CE4CVN made 28 spots of CB4A - CE4VCN made a total of
38 spots in the WPX.
OK1WWJ made 21 spots of OL5T - OK1WWJ made only
two other contest spots that weekend.
RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times - RK3QWA made
112 spots in the WPX.
N2QER spotted NY6DX 13 times - N2QER made 33 total spots.
UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - UR7IJQ made only
one other WPX contest spot.
PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - PY2SBY made
a total of 28 spots in the contest.
KA6BIM spotted NR6O 10 times - as KA6BIM has pointed
out, he made many more overall spots, a total of 436,
making this a very small minority.
KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - KC5JSO made a
total of 19 WPX spots.
So there we go. I am making no wild accusations here -
I'm just running numbers and looking for a discussion.
I'm not trying to discourage spotting or cast it in a negative
light. I still plan to talk further about self spots. But that
is later, not in the above numbers.
Jamie NS3T
>From w5xd at writelog.com Sun Apr 14 01:37:15 2002
From: w5xd@writelog.com (W. Wright, W5XD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots. who needs 'em?
Message-ID: <000d01c1e34c$870dc210$6400000a@W5XD>
Am I the only person on the planet that thinks running packet in a contest
REDUCES the enjoyment of the weekend? If the guys that are complaining at
each other about abusing packet would all just quit using it, they might
discover you enjoy the sense of accomplishment that comes with finding your
own multipliers.
As a software vendor I get requests that I can paraphrase as "please improve
the aim of your software for shooting fish in a barrel--there were 100 fish
in that barrel last weekend and I could have shot more than 90 of them if
your software were better". I do attempt to "improve the aim" (should I?),
but one the great mysteries of life is why folks don't try to go find fish
that haven't been put the the barrel yet?
Wayne, W5XD
>From otterstad at enter.vg Sun Apr 14 05:42:38 2002
From: otterstad@enter.vg (otterstad@enter.vg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
In-Reply-To: <001601c1e315$24df0ae0$9ce45d50@pentium>
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
<001601c1e315$24df0ae0$9ce45d50@pentium>
Message-ID: <20020414024238.552C111712@mail1.vg.eunet.no>
Kele YT3T <yt3t@absolutok.net>:
> Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to
the selection of
> U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> For an average YU ham, you are ALL very wealthy, and
from our point of
> view,
> the sport of contesting is "money talks' indeed. To
let you get an idea, an
> average YU ham has to spend his whole 2-year income
to be able to set a
> station consisting of: one modern transceiver, one
kilowatt amplifier, one
> rotor, one modest tower, one tribander and minimum of
required cables and
> wires. I did NOT say 2-year savings, but 2-year
salaries. And just a few
> months more to get a modest computer.
Thanks for putting this into a different perspective ,
Kele. We need to be reminded from time to time how
priviledged we are !
73 Rag W7/LA5HE
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Sun Apr 14 04:57:29 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
In-Reply-To: <200204140115.g3E1FUAl013265@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020414033001.00a98700@pop.pacific.net.hk>
Hmmm... I thought we were tuned to cq-contest. ;^)
Cheers to NS3T for his subsequent clarification of intention. I beginning
to think
I was the only one who could sense it was such to begin with.
Obviously, neither KA6BIM nor NR6O (that's N6RO, right?) are to be confused
with some of the dodgy spotters out there. And the raw data NS3T presented
does show how the good guys can look like those that might not be so good.
Let's not get carried away here or take things out of context,
either. Remember,
NS3T - like myself - found he was making spots that he didn't. Some dodgy
stuff is going on out there. I sense some here have forgotten that or may not
have seen the start of the thread & others seem not to follow much of it at all
from what they have contributed to the discussion.
IMHO, sometimes it's hard to even bring stuff up here for level-headed
reasonable
discussion of the sort I would expect from radiosporting enthusiasts & some of
the reaction seen on this thread is why. I'll now retire to the roof to
read the
Sunday papers & contemplate the reaction that may result from this post as no
doubt somebody will not read it in the friendly tone in which it was written.
No frame intended - sorry my poor Engrish!
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From kg6ok at pacbell.net Sun Apr 14 06:12:51 2002
From: kg6ok@pacbell.net (Herb Rosenberg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Win a Complete Amateur Radio Station?
Message-ID: <3CB90FD3.A315556@pacbell.net>
How would you like to win a Complete Amateur Radio Station?
Interested? Well, if you come to the International DX Convention in
Visalia, CA on Friday - Sunday, April 26-28, 2002, and you buy enough
raffle tickets, and you are very very lucky.....
You could walk out with all of this....... (a complete custom dream
station, and more..... )
For a HF radio,
How about an ICOM 706MKII, Alinco DX77, Kenwood TS2000, and Yaesu
FT1000MP Mark V HF transceivers?
For HF Antennas,
How about a Force 12 XR5 Beam, M2 KT36XA Beam, Cushcraft AW3S, Fulid
Motion SteppIR Dipole, World Radio ZX20 Beam, and Butternut HV2
Vertical?
For Cabling,
How about 125 feet of National Wire & Cable premium rotor and coaxial
cables?
For a Tower,
How about a US Tower TX-455 (yes, the whole tower)
For a microphone,
How about a Heil Goldline Microphone & and Heil Proset Head Set and a
Limited Edition Astatic D-104 Collector's microphone?
For a Key,
How about a Bencher BY-1 Keyer and a Idiom Press LogiKey Iambic Keyer
For Station Accessories,
How about a AOR Multi terminal PSK, RTTY, decoder, Daiwa Watt Meters, a
HAL DPX38 RTTY Demodulator, ClearSpeech speakers, DXer Dream Clocks, and
Coffee Mugs?
Oh, yeah, and don't forget about,
AEA HF Antenna Analyser, Astron RS35m power supplies, W2IHY 8 Band Audio
Equalizer, SGC Stealth Antenna System, and a complete Polyphaser
Grounding System?
And of course, for all of these radios and antennas, you will need,
Top Ten Devices, International Radio Filters, and Array Solutions
antenna switches,
For your Neighbors,
How about some low pass filters, phone filters, and ear muffs?
For your YL and / or XYL, you will have to have,
Wild Women Pins and collectibles
For Miscellaneous Stuff, that no shack is complete without,
How about a few thousand pre-printed deluxe QSL cards, Collector item
ARRL Operating Manual, Collector Item ARRL Antenna Book, and a wide
assortment of other books, cd's, and publications?
For Callbooks,
How about your choice of CDROM Callbooks from Buckmaster and Radio
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For Logging and Contesting,
How about logging and contest software from DX4WIN, Writelog, NA, EQF
Software, LOGic 5, MiLog, and others?
For HF Mobile Operating,
How about mobile antenna products from HI-Q Antennas, K6MB, W6AAQ, KJ7U,
and others?
How about deep deep discount certificates on the purchase of ACOM,
ALPHA, and Henry Radio Amplifiers & Tri-ex towers?
For your Reading Pleasure,
How about a life time subscription to World Radio Magazine, and 1 year
subscriptions to CQ Magazine, Popular Communications, DX Magazine, QRZ
DX, Daily DX, Weekly DX, Low Band Monitor, RTY Journal, and the K1BV
Awards Directories?
For VHF / UHF,
How about some VHF / UHF / FRS handheld radios?
For Gift Certificates,
How about gift certificates to Amateur Electronic Supply - Las Vegas,
The Wireman, Idiom Press, Peter Dahl Co, and Elecraft?
Interested? Well, come to the International DX Convention, and you may
just walk out with all of this stuff, and more.
For details, check our web site at:
http://www.qsl.net/visalia2002/
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>From trogo at telegraphy.com Sun Apr 14 00:52:28 2002
From: trogo@telegraphy.com (Tony Rogozinski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
<5.1.0.14.0.20020413144147.0532caa0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <01c401c1e380$f7f174c0$012cfea9@ph.cox.net>
Give me a break for Goodness Sakes! The sponsors/organizers of this event -
in
writing - have reserved the right to invite a team of their choosing - and
in this
case we know who it is. So quit bitching and accept the fact that they made
a
decision regardless of how or why it was done. You guys sound like a bunch
of babies! Get your shit together and concentrate on the business at hand
which
is to win the contest once it takes place. Interestingly I don't see any
derogatory
postings by the guys who usually do win.
Tony N7BG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
> At 08:00 PM 4/13/02 +0200, Kele YT3T wrote:
> >Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
> >U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> I have been searching in vain for the press release that started all this
> -- The WRTC web site does not have press release #18. Could it possibly
be
> a hoax? If not, could someone either send me the text directly or point
me
> to a URL?
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sun Apr 14 13:25:30 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB reports
In-Reply-To: <007c01c1e325$1452a460$ae2b5142@rockne>
Message-ID: <002d01c1e3af$77f06630$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Is there someplace were a summary of ubn statistics is published? Best,
worst, average, type breakdowns??
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From k7sv at va.prestige.net Sun Apr 14 10:19:37 2002
From: k7sv@va.prestige.net (Larry Schimelpfenig)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
References: <200204140115.g3E1F1Al013256@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000801c1e3b7$07bafda0$1e2e4144@frbgva.adelphia.net>
Is it increasing age that is causing me to have trouble understanding folks
these days?
Pete Smith (N4ZR) asked for a copy or URL of WRTC 2002 release 18. I assume
Pete, like myself, would like to read it to better understand what the
thread is all about. Having no luck in finding 18, the best I can do is
form conclusions based on the fragments that have appeared in the thread.
This morning Tony Rogozinski (N7BG) responds to Pete in derogatory terms
that have nothing to do with Pete's request.
My two long term loves in ham radio have been contesting and dxing. The lack
of discipline and apathy of a large percentage of the dx crowd has reduced
my primary interest in the hobby to contesting. Perhaps it's in my best
interest to stop reading the reflectors and just get on and work the
contests I enjoy.
73 de Larry K7SV
----- Original Message -----
From: <cq-contest-request@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 9:15 PM
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. My WPX CW UBN file (VA3UZ)
> 2. spotting statistics (jljarvis)
> 3. Re: NS3T's wild accusation (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
> 4. Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.) (Kele YT3T)
> 5. station availability (David Robbins)
> 6. Re: Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.) (Pete Smith)
> 7. Upcoming Contests for Mobiles (Hal Offutt)
> 8. SSB reports (Bob Cox)
> 9. Re: Eu Sprint 2002 (Dmitri Bagno (RW3FO))
> 10. Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation (Alan Maenchen)
> 11. Re: spotting statistics (Jamie Dupree)
> 12. spots. who needs 'em? (W. Wright, W5XD)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> From: "VA3UZ" <va3uz@rac.ca>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] My WPX CW UBN file
>
> Bad or non verifiable CALL SIGNS excluded from the score:
>
> QSO: 21032 CW 2001-05-26 1530 VA3UZ 599 1047 VE3RKF 599
> 126
> QSO: 14044 CW 2001-05-27 0315 VA3UZ 599 1976 K0IAL 599
> 194
>
> Ironically, just heard K0IAL on 20 m SSB. Mike from Iowa....
>
> One more funny thing:
>
> QSOs found, by cross checking, to have unmatchable serial numbers not
> excluded from the score:
>
> QSO: 21032 CW 2001-05-26 1751 VA3UZ 599 1271 N6NF
599
> 27
> ..............................................Serial number should be:
1
>
>
> < SNIP >
>
>
> QSO: 14025 CW 2001-05-27 2241 VA3UZ 599 2887 N6NF 599
> 267
> ..............................................Serial number should be:
1
>
> Does N6NF have all the serial numbers "1" in his LOG? :-)) Just curios.
>
>
> 73 Yuri VA3UZ
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> From: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] spotting statistics
>
>
>
> The problem with data...any data...is understanding it. NS3T's doesn't
> take into account the TOTAL NUMBER OF SPOTS FROM EACH STATION. It may
> be that what is reported represents only a small percentage of total spots
> for any given station, and is not only not material statistically, it
might
> not be memorable during the heat of a contest.
>
> Take an extreme case....Suppose a m/m has a mult hunting/spotting
position.
> All it's doing is feeding the station network with mults for band S&P
follow-up,
> and dumping spots on the net. It might spot...10-15 an hour, for 48
hours.
> That's 480 to 720 spots in a contest. Suppose there are different ops in
that
> chair. What is the chance they'll randomly spot HC8N 4 times on 10
meters?
> When 10 is hot, I'd say pretty fair. Chances of 10-12 spots happening are
> high, in fact.
>
> What does it mean? Absolutely nothing, statistically.
>
> Let's take the top poster on Jamie's list....IR3P. He spotted FM5GU 30
times,
> half of which were on 20 meters. Is there something wrong with that?
Suppose
> IR3P has buddies who NEED FM, and he was making sure they knew where he
was.
> We don't know whether that was 100% of IR3P's total spots, or 1%; but
> it was probably in the minority. It averages less than one an hour...and
less
> than one every TWO hours on 20 meters. Is that a lot? Doesn't seem so.
>
> Here's another factor:
> Most EU spots tend to go to DXSummit, and are visible worldwide. Some US
clubs
> still close their network to outside spots...and vice versa....so you
might have
> more aggressive spotting within a club than is visible globally. Where's
the
> fairness factor there?
>
> Again, I urge caution in reaching judgement on this issue. If you
stipulate
> that self-spotting is a proscribed behavior, then the only remaining
question
> is "what's excessive spotting of other guys?".
>
> My response would be, "Who cares?". Why discourage spotting at all? The
more
> you spot, the more you drain resource that could be producing Q's for your
own
> station. If you overdo it, the packet bandwidth starts to backlog. It's
a
> self-limiting behavior, both ways.
>
> Let's talk about something else.
>
> Jim Jarvis, N2EA
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
>
> Tom,
>
> My experience was exactly the opposite -- I had a lot of DX stations (I
> stopped counting at 30) ask me to put them on the cluster. I had 2 or 3
> that seemed perturbed when I declined -- one S5 station called me a, hmmm,
> compared me to a portion of the human anatomy that rarely see much
sunshine
> (and maybe I am sometimes, aren't we all, but that still does not strike
me
> as an appropriate transmission during the contest!).
>
> Personally, I found NS3T's statistics interesting but inconclusive. Since
> we don't know who actually generated the spots, proving self-spotting
> without further details would be difficult. Be so as it may, while I
think
> a rule clarification regarding soliciting for or self-spotting may be
worth
> considering for most contests, I don't know what more can be done.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "There's No Crying in Baseball!"
> -- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Osborne <w7why@harborside.com>
> Reply-To: w7why@harborside.com
> Organization: Amateur Radio W7WHY
> To: CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
>
> Dave Tucker wrote:
> >
> > I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX
> >whenever I was in S&P mode.
>
> Hi Dave
>
> Did you ask these stations if they wanted to be spotted?? I've
> read posts where lots of DX stations don't want to be spotted
> during a contest. Slows the rate down considerably. Maybe we
> can have a new category MSBASDAC--Most Spots By A Station During
> A Contest.
> Tom W7WHY
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> From: "Kele YT3T" <yt3t@absolutok.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
>
> Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
> U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> For an average YU ham, you are ALL very wealthy, and from our point of
view,
> the sport of contesting is "money talks' indeed. To let you get an idea,
an
> average YU ham has to spend his whole 2-year income to be able to set a
> station consisting of: one modern transceiver, one kilowatt amplifier, one
> rotor, one modest tower, one tribander and minimum of required cables and
> wires. I did NOT say 2-year savings, but 2-year salaries. And just a few
> months more to get a modest computer.
>
> I do not think that A61AJ have spent his 2+year income to set his station,
> just as many of you who maintain super stations.
>
> So, the real money consumption in contesting activities happens in my
> neighbourhood, and I am desperate, since they all expect me to run this
> race. Oh well, I hope some of you will print your QSL cards at my
printshop
> :-)
>
> 73
> Kele
> YT3T, YU1AO
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> From: "David Robbins" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
> To: <yccc@yccc.org>, "reflector cq-contest" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] station availability
>
> My station is available for most of the spring/summer contests. I am
> booked for WPX CW, NE QSO Party, CQ-M, and maybe IARU. If you are
> interested in trying out any of the other summer contests please contact
> me directly. This is a chance to try out big antennas, different radios
> and amps, bring friends and do a multi-op, etc.
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> From: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
>
> At 08:00 PM 4/13/02 +0200, Kele YT3T wrote:
> >Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
> >U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> I have been searching in vain for the press release that started all this
> -- The WRTC web site does not have press release #18. Could it possibly
be
> a hoax? If not, could someone either send me the text directly or point
me
> to a URL?
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> From: Hal Offutt <japancorporateresearch@compuserve.com>
> To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Upcoming Contests for Mobiles
>
> Hi,
>
> Most of you probably read the great article by Jim K8MR on mobile
> contesting in the March/April 2002 issue of NCJ.
>
> Jim pointed out the similarity between the mobile category in state QSO
> parties and the WRTC: operators in both events compete from very similar
> stations and under very similar conditions. He explained the great fun
and
> challenge of mobile contesting: laying out a route before the contest,
> operating from a vehicle while enjoying the countryside scenery, good
> pileups and rates, and real competition. He also noted how much fun it
can
> be for non-mobile stations to follow the mobiles around and work them in
> each new county they enter.
>
> Mobile contesting has become increasingly popular during the past few
> years. I think this is mainly due to the involvement of contest clubs in
> the resurrection of the FQP, the OQP, the GAQP and the MQP and their
> success in getting a lot of first class ops out on the roads. Another
> enabling factor is the availability of so many compact 12V HF rigs at
> reasonable prices. More and more state QSO parties now have achieved what
> I think is the minimum number of active mobiles (six to eight) necessary
to
> make an interesting event for all participants. I expect to see even more
> mobiles out there in the future as people discover just how much fun this
> form of contesting is.
>
> Four of the best events for mobile contesting are coming up over the next
> three weeks. If Jim's article stimulated your interest with his article,
> you will have ample opportunity coming up to experience this brand of
> contesting activity, either from your home QTH or from your own vehicle.
> Brief information on these events is shown below.
>
> First, a couple of notes:
>
> 1. These events are rapidly becoming true *CONTESTS*, not simply low-key
> county hunting events. The counties are the means, not the end. Most of
> the mobile operators in the events I detail below (with one exception) are
> not especially interested in county hunting. If you do chase counties,
> though, there's no better forum.
>
> 2. Some of the top ops in the country are getting out there on the road
in
> these events. Take a look at the results from previous years and at the
> list of guys planning to operate this year and you'll see what I mean.
>
>
> 3. Although these contests are all centered in the US, activity from
> outside the US is permitted and very welcome.
>
> 4. There are pileups every time a mobile changes counties. That's around
> 160 pileups during a 12 hour contest where 8 mobiles each change counties
> 20 times. This is a great opportunity to practice your pileup-busting
> technique. How often can you be the first station into the mobile's log?
>
> 5. Plenty of cool wallpaper and plaques available.
>
>
>
> Upcoming Contests with Major Mobile Activity
>
>
> 1. Michigan QSO Party, sponsored by the Mad River Radio Club, April 20-21
>
> A 12 hour event from 1600Z to 0400Z Saturday (noon to midnight EDST).
Nine
> mobiles were active last year, with the winner making 924 contacts. SSB
> and CW but emphasis on CW. Mobiles handed out nearly 5,000 contacts in
> all. Attracts some of the top ops in the Midwest. Most MI counties get
> activated.
>
> Rules and results: http://mrrc.net
>
>
>
> 2. Florida QSO Party, sponsored by the Florida Contest Group, April
27-28
>
>
> A 20 hour event in two ten-hour time periods: Sat 1600Z to 0159Z (noon to
> 10 PM EDST) and Sun 1200Z to 2159Z (8 AM to 6 PM EDST). SSB and CW, good
> activity on both modes. 10 mobiles were active last year and there were
> 403 total log submissions. All FL counties were active. High mobile QSO
> count was 1207.
>
> Rules and results: http://www.qsl.net/fcg
>
>
>
> 3. New England QSO Party, sponsored by YCCC and several local clubs, May
> 4-5
>
> A 20 hour event in two time periods: Sat 2000Z to 0300Z (4 PM to 11 PM
> EDST) and Sun 1100Z to 2400Z (7 AM to 8 PM EDST).
> Both SSB and CW. This is the first running of a new event that brings the
> six small New England states under one QSO party umbrella. Promises to
> turn some sleepy NE state QSO parties into a real contest. 8 mobiles have
> already announced plans to be active, and the sponsors are aiming to get
> all NE counties on.
>
> Rules: http://neqp.org
>
>
>
> 4. County Hunters' Contest CW, sponsored by the Mobile Amateur Radio
> Awards Club, May 4-5
>
> A 48 hour event from 0000Z Saturday to 2400Z Sunday (8 PM Friday night to
8
> PM Sunday night EDST). CW only. No significant activity during the
night.
> Fixed stations can work each other as well as the mobiles but mobiles
> count 15 points against 1 point for fixed station contacts, so activity is
> focussed on the mobiles. This is the only event of the year where mobiles
> in different states can contact and compete with each other. 15 mobiles
> were active in 2001, with the winner's QSO total at 1905 and the high
> multiplier at 340. The overlap with the NEQP this year should make for
> even more activity.
>
>
> The Indiana QSO Party is also scheduled for Saturday, May 4 from 1300Z to
> 0500Z (9 AM to 1 AM) so you can work the NEQP, the CHC, and the INQP at
the
> same time. Info at www.qsl.net/kj9d/inqp/rules.html.
>
>
> 73 & GL,
>
> Hal W1NN
>
>
> ______________________________________
> Japan Corporate Research
> Research and Consulting Services on Japan
> www.japancorporateresearch.com
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> From: "Bob Cox" <K3EST@cqww.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB reports
>
>
> Dear Fellow Contesters,
>
> The 2001 CQ WW SSB UBN and NIL reports are now available for you at =
> http://www.cqww.com . Just find your call and click. Enter your password =
> which everyone who submitted an email log received. If you submitted =
> only a paper log your call will not appear on the list.
>
> In a few weeks we will place a list of calls + categories + clubs on the =
> cqww.com web site for you to check. An announcement will be made.
>
> The CQ WW will require the cabrillo format for submissions starting with =
> the 2002 contest. All the non-cabrillo 2001 SSB logs on the CQ WW =
> website have been converted to the carbillo format by the CQ WW =
> Committee. The cabrillo format is available with the major contest =
> logging programs.=20
>
> Although we are sure that you are familiar with the reasons why cabrillo =
> is important, here is the main reason: It allows the easy assembly of =
> all the data necessary for compiling the results by the contest sponsor. =
> Without cabrillo the CQ WW Committee must deal with many, many logging =
> formats....which takes many, now unneeded, hundreds of hours.
>
> Approximately 70 % of the logs received for the 2001 CQ WW SSB test were =
> already in the cabrillo format. This was great! Thanks.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K3EST
> CQ WW Director
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 9
> From: "Dmitri Bagno (RW3FO)" <bagno@mai.ru>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Eu Sprint 2002
>
> Two nice certificates came today for EuSprint 2001 --
> thank you Paolo, Dave, Bernhard & Karel!
>
> --Dmitri (RW3FO)
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> From: "Alan Maenchen" <ad6e@inreach.com>
> To: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>, <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
>
> Thanks Dave for bringing this to light.
> Its one of the reasons I've un-subscribed to CQ-Contest
>
> If NS3T doesn't want to see all those spots he should turn it off.
>
> So far as "self spotting" goes, he should correlate the spotter to be one
of
> the operators at said spotted station. Looks like his list is simply a
list
> of frequently spotted stations .. not self spotted. However, even that may
> not "work" since an operator can legally spot a M/M station while he is
> operating somewhere else, then go work from that M/M later (or earlier).
No
> problem for non-ARRL contests.
>
> Al AD6E (also, part-time op at KX7M)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Tucker" <ddddd@attbi.com>
> To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Cc: <ns3t@arrl.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 17:06
> Subject: [NCCC] NS3T's wild accusation
>
>
> > Below is an accusation by NS3T regarding self spotting. I would like to
> set
> > the record
> > straight for one and all
> >
> > I made a concentrated effort to spot stations during the WPX whenever I
> was
> > in S&P
> > mode. I was very active and probably sent over 350 spots. Many were
dx,
> > many were
> > domestic. Some more than once. That I happened to spot NR6O numerous
> times
> > is in
> > no way a violation of any rule. Where does it state that you can only
spot
> a
> > station
> > once? As far as 4 times on 10 meters, well what can I say, that's my
> > favorite band.
> > NR6O happens to be a station that I am familiar with and in fact was in
> > friendly
> > competition with. I was not at NR6O. There are numberous East and
West
> > coast
> > stations that I spotted more than once. Maybe he is just miffed because
I
> > didn't happen
> > to run across him. I hope you all were able to work them and I
> appreciated
> > the spots
> > that others posted.
> >
> > Lets keep these unfounded accusations out of here, we don't need this
crap
> > in our hobby.
> >
> > Dave Tucker KA6BIM
> >
> >
> >
> > Quote from NS3T on CQ-Contest reflector:
> >
> > "After going thru some 17,000 spots from the CQ WPX SSB
> > contest over
> > the past week, I figured it was time to share some of my work with the
> > reflector. As in the ARRL DX contests, I again found evidence of
> > disguised self-spotting by a number of stations - that will be forwarded
> > to those in charge of the WPX contest.
> >
> > I thought I would start by giving some stats on stations that frequently
> > spotted another station during the contest. I've seen people say that
> > they figure 2 spots per band is "reasonable" for a 48 hour contest; some
> > of these certainly exceed that. I am just listing the top ten.
> >
> > MOST SPOTS OF ANOTHER STATION DURING CQ WPX
> >
> > 1) IR3P spotted FM5GU 30 times - - 15 spots were on 20 meters.
> >
> > 2t) S51QN spotted S58M 28 times - - 15 times on 20m.
> >
> > 2t) CE4VCN spots CB4A 28 times - - 12 spots on 15 meters.
> >
> > 4t) OK1WWJ spots OL5T 21 times- - 5 each on 80 and 40 meters.
> >
> > 4t) RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times (9x on 10 meters.)
> >
> > 6) N2QER - 13 spots of NY6DX - - 5 spots on both 10/15 meters.
> >
> > 7) UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - all were on 15 meters.
> >
> > 8t) KA6BIM spotted NR6O 11 times - 4 were on 10 meters.
> >
> > 8t) PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - all on 10 meters.
> > PU2WDX in turn spotted PY2SBY 6 times on 10 meters.
> >
> > 10) KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - five were on 10m.
> >
> >
> > More later.
> >
> > Jamie NS3T"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > NCCC mailing list
> > NCCC@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/nccc
> >
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> From: "Jamie Dupree" <ns3t@arrl.net>
> To: <jljarvis@abs.adelphia.net>
> Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: spotting statistics
>
> Jim -
>
> Thanks for your note.
>
> I should have been more clear in my original posting. I opened the
> discussion about self spotting, but then posted data on something else.
> That was probably a mistake and has resulted in a bit of tempest. :-)
>
> So here is the background that some have asked for...and I
> am making NO judgment about these spots. I simply thought
> the raw numbers of spots were interesting, that's why I posted them
> in the first place.
>
> The reason I got into this is that during the ARRL contest, someone
> spotted under my call. A quick review showed that's happening more
> than we would probably like to admit...but that is not what these
> numbers are about. These are raw numbers of what stations
> spotted another station the most - that's all.
> ---
>
> IR3P made 30 spots of FM5GU - IR3P made no other spots
> in the contest.
>
> S51QN made 28 spots of S58M - S51QN made only one
> other spot in the contest.
>
> CE4CVN made 28 spots of CB4A - CE4VCN made a total of
> 38 spots in the WPX.
>
> OK1WWJ made 21 spots of OL5T - OK1WWJ made only
> two other contest spots that weekend.
>
> RK3QWA spotted 5B4/R3CC 21 times - RK3QWA made
> 112 spots in the WPX.
>
> N2QER spotted NY6DX 13 times - N2QER made 33 total spots.
>
> UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - UR7IJQ made only
> one other WPX contest spot.
>
> PY2SBY spotted PU2WDX 11 times - PY2SBY made
> a total of 28 spots in the contest.
>
> KA6BIM spotted NR6O 10 times - as KA6BIM has pointed
> out, he made many more overall spots, a total of 436,
> making this a very small minority.
>
> KC5JSO spotted T93M/HI9 10 times - KC5JSO made a
> total of 19 WPX spots.
>
> So there we go. I am making no wild accusations here -
> I'm just running numbers and looking for a discussion.
> I'm not trying to discourage spotting or cast it in a negative
> light. I still plan to talk further about self spots. But that
> is later, not in the above numbers.
>
> Jamie NS3T
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> Reply-To: <w5xd@writelog.com>
> From: "W. Wright, W5XD" <w5xd@writelog.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots. who needs 'em?
>
> Am I the only person on the planet that thinks running packet in a contest
> REDUCES the enjoyment of the weekend? If the guys that are complaining at
> each other about abusing packet would all just quit using it, they might
> discover you enjoy the sense of accomplishment that comes with finding
your
> own multipliers.
>
> As a software vendor I get requests that I can paraphrase as "please
improve
> the aim of your software for shooting fish in a barrel--there were 100
fish
> in that barrel last weekend and I could have shot more than 90 of them if
> your software were better". I do attempt to "improve the aim" (should I?),
> but one the great mysteries of life is why folks don't try to go find fish
> that haven't been put the the barrel yet?
>
> Wayne, W5XD
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
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>
> End of CQ-Contest Digest
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sun Apr 14 15:59:03 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
Message-ID: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
I hate to reinvent the wheel, don't have a lot of time to homebrew or
put together kits, and don't know much about operating so2r besides what
I have seen from a few guest operators. But I am ready to buy the stuff
needed to make a better so2r setup option on my m/m station. I am
looking to buy as much as possible, preferably including cables already
made up.
The equipment would be:
2x ft-1000mp
heil proset headset
ct or na logging software
dvp board for voice keying
aea morsemachine or other external keyer(s)
each band has its own coax coming in to the table
What I am looking for are suggestions for 2 or 3 things:
1. a headset/keyer/mic/dvp switch with cables
2. a 6 antenna to 2 radio antenna switch with band decoder for each
radio and control cables.
3. a 6 band 2 radio bandpass filter switch for between the radios and
amps, or possibly two separate switched bandpass filters with cables and
decoder.
Could one decoder run both the antenna switch and bandpass filter
switch?
What is available off the shelf to do this?
What are the pro's and con's of different models that are available, if
there are choices?
Is it better to run 1 computer or 2?? Why??
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Sun Apr 14 12:22:23 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dodgy spotting
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHAECHDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
NS3T's second cut at data clearly shows that David, WA6BIM, wasn't doing
anything wrong. (Jamie's FIRST cut at data, by the way, did NOT
say that anyone necessarily did anything untoward...he made NO
ACCUSATIONS. Some folks were sensitive.)
What we know, from Brett-VR2BG, from Jamie-NS3T, and from others on
CQDXirc, is that not all spots come from the station whose callsign
is indicated as the author. If we were to take the top 3 on Jamie's
list, I bet we'd find that at least ONE of them didn't make those spots.
This is going to be hard to administrate, and hard to monitor. The
potential for cloaked self-spotting exists, or for 'team' behavior,
where a friend cloaks--or doesn't--and spots his expedition buddy.
I am not convinced that extensive spotting actually produces a real
advantage. Serious contesters will have you on their band map, which
probably dupe-filters. Casual players may not be on packet at all.
There may be a few who chase DX, and chase spots...but they're not an
infinite supply of Q's...and duplicate spotting may only yield a very
small additional benefit.
On the down side....those spots may attract QRP stations, who will
destroy your rate, as you try to pull them out!
Simple, relaxed rules are best. Anything more can't be enforced.
Jim Jarvis, N2EA
Essex Vermont
ps: (VR2BG...you were pounding in, here in VT on 15 this morning, Brett!)
>From w6rw at earthlink.net Sun Apr 14 11:47:41 2002
From: w6rw@earthlink.net (Michael S. Mitchell, W6RW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB reports
References: <002d01c1e3af$77f06630$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <3CB9C0BC.CCB3BDCF@earthlink.net>
They used to publish it in the CQ Contest magazine before if became a
dinasour!
David Robbins wrote:
> Is there someplace were a summary of ubn statistics is published? Best,
> worst, average, type breakdowns??
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
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>From W4EF at dellroy.com Sun Apr 14 13:08:27 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Mike)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
References: <200204131604.g3DG4AAl007695@contesting.com>
<5.1.0.14.0.20020413144147.0532caa0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <137601c1e3e7$c2266050$6501a8c0@1800XP>
Pete,
I thought this was an April Fools joke, but apparently it
is not (its dated April 11, 2002):
http://www.wrtc2002.org/news18.htm
I don't know what all the fuss is about, 2 more good
operators competing against a bunch of other good
operators. I don't see how Ali's financial resources
will give Jeff and Phil any advantage during the
competition except that maybe he can by them
each a pair silk underwear or treat them to a pre-
competition massage to keep them relaxed
and focused?
73 de Mike, W4EF (aka Elmer Fudd)..........................
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Money talks (Team U.A. E.)
> At 08:00 PM 4/13/02 +0200, Kele YT3T wrote:
> >Pretty amusing to see (wealthy) people complaining to the selection of
> >U.A.E. guest ops...
>
> I have been searching in vain for the press release that started all this
> -- The WRTC web site does not have press release #18. Could it possibly
be
> a hoax? If not, could someone either send me the text directly or point
me
> to a URL?
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
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>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Sun Apr 14 16:44:57 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204141528140.23160-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Can't believe the whining about this team. Forget that both ops are world
class. Forget that they announced this team well in advance.
The OH's are putting on this event. It is THEIR contest. If they want to
invite novice ops from OH0 who are sons of the biggest donor... its OK
with me. They are doing all the work and coming up with all the money
required to pull it off. To publically criticize them for any of their
choices seems to me to be in very poor taste.
As for money talks.... I will put my spot up for the highest bidder.
Proceeds to benefit the event. Any talkers? eerrrr takers?
73
Bill Fisher
>From dick.green at valley.net Sun Apr 14 17:39:27 2002
From: dick.green@valley.net (Dick Green)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL change of policy (long)
In-Reply-To: <F114eX2GOC9GBDYnV7j000166f5@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICELFCHAA.dick.green@valley.net>
During the past couple of years, I've been reluctant to comment on
electronic QSL issues because I was working on the LOTW design. I felt that
it would be inappropriate to say anything until the design and project had
been approved by the ARRL Board and announced to the membership. Also, I'm
not a League employee or spokesperson, and didn't want anyone to think I was
stating ARRL policy.
But now that LOTW has been announced and my part of the project is over, I
think it's OK for me to comment on some of the issues that have been raised
as a result of eQSL's change of policy. Please bear in mind that I'm
speaking for me, not ARRL, and that the LOTW specifications are subject to
change.
1. I resent the unfounded accusation that the "QSL technologists" somehow
forced a policy change on DXCC. Nothing of the sort happened. We could
easily have designed LOTW to allow browsing of unsolicited QSLs without
compromising security (our main concern), but were specifically instructed
by DXCC not to do so. LOTW does not permit users to examine unconfirmed QSLs
for the same reason DXCC has had a long-standing policy of discouraging
DXpeditioners from posting all QSO data from their logs on the Internet.
Regardless of any loopholes in the DXCC rules, it's never been right for
WC1M to get a card that was really intended for WY1M, or for WC1M to get a
20M CW confirmation when he incorrectly logged the QSO on 10M a day later.
I'm surprised that a contester wouldn't understand this -- after all, you
don't get credit when you log a contest QSO incorrectly. I suppose another
reason for discouraging the posting of full logs is that it would encourage
people in pileups to call and call, regardless of whether they can hear the
DX or not, in the hope that they will be worked and can get the QSO data
from an online log. Speaking as an Honor Roll and 5BDXCC DXer, I welcome any
DXCC policies that discourage poor operating practice (which, to me,
includes failing to accurately log a contact.)
2. Another completely unfounded accusation is that ARRL forced eQSL to
change its policy by dangling the prospect of DXCC acceptance. eQSL's claim
that the policy change takes them a step closer to acceptance for DXCC
credit is probably a figment of their imagination. They may perceive that
the big problem was browsing of unconfirmed QSLs (which DXCC certainly
frowns on), but as others have stated, the real problem with eQSL is its
lack of data security (see below.) There was no way for us to design LOTW to
be compatible because eQSL doesn't meet even minimal security standards
required to protect the integrity of the DXCC program. While it's
theoretically possible for third parties to securely collect QSO data
according to the LOTW specification, I recommended that ARRL develop its own
version of the system because over the long haul DXCC can't rely exclusively
on the viability of outside vendors. Even if outside vendors are used to
securely collect QSO data, ARRL cannot rely on any external entity to issue
credentials for using LOTW. That function completely controls the integrity
of LOTW and DXCC, which is the sole responsibility of ARRL (see
authentication, #9, below.)
3. It's been said that "The requirement to upload electronic logs in order
to receive QSLs will filter out thousands of potential users." This is an
extreme and baseless claim. First of all, it's not all that hard. You don't
have to submit your entire log -- you can extract and submit whatever QSOs
you want to confirm, although most participants will probably find it easier
just to upload the latest additions to their log. In either case, ARRL plans
to work with log program authors to ensure that this process is as simple
and automated as possible. A stand-alone program for manually entering QSOs
will be provided for those who do not use logging software. If you want a
confirmation, all you have to do is enter the data. It's hard to believe
that thousands will reject LOTW because of this simple requirement.
4. There's something funny about the demand that LOTW allow users to view
and print unsolicited QSLs without uploading matching log data. Does this
mean it's OK to completely ignore the confirmation request? Presumably, the
sender wants a response, but you don't have to give one. You can go merrily
about getting your card or DXCC without giving anyone your card, state or
county. That doesn't seem very friendly. Yes, you can do the same with paper
cards, but how many people hang unsolicited cards on the wall or submit them
to DXCC without having the courtesy to respond? Probably not very many. I
certainly don't (I'd feel guilty!) If most people do in fact respond, then
they have to do some work -- e.g., write out a card. Why is that any
different from uploading a log entry to LOTW or using the stand-alone
program to enter the QSO data? Are the proponents really arguing for the
right to print an unsolicited QSL or use it for awards credit without
providing a response? Will thousands of selfish potential users hate LOTW
for this?
5. But it's not really about the effort of uploading logs -- the real
argument here is that you shouldn't be required to log a contact in order to
receive a confirmation. This argument says you should be able to get a card
without giving your version of the contact information, or that it's OK to
simply echo back the information on the unsolicited QSL. As I said before, I
believe it's poor operating practice not to log a contact, and I believe
it's even worse practice to confirm the data on an unsolicited QSL unless it
matches a log entry (otherwise, in my book, it's NIL.) What if the sender is
mistaken about the time, date, mode or band? How meaningful is the card when
both stations haven't independently verified the data? Pretty pictures, I
guess. Then why not just exchange card images via e-mail or post them on a
website? There's no need to fill in the QSO data because it doesn't mean
anything. Given the it's poor quality, the data certainly should not be used
for awards credit, and then you don't need a central electronic QSL facility
at all.
6. Unlike eQSL, LOTW's primary purpose is not to produce QSL card images for
confirmed contacts. The goal for LOTW is to enhance DXCC and other award
programs, where the QSO information is supremely meaningful. As such, the
requirements of the DXCC program dictate much of the design. LOTW is
intended to speed up, simplify and reduce the cost of the awards
confirmation process for applicants and HQ, while maintaining or improving
the integrity of DXCC data. Rather than filtering out thousands of potential
users, the simplicity of uploading logs to LOTW for awards credit will
likely attract many amateurs who have avoided the awards program because of
the hassle, high cost and lengthy delays to obtain paper QSL cards.
Hopefully this, and the potential benefit of being able to obtain QSL images
from the same uploaded log data, will greatly outweigh the requirement to
upload logs and the restriction on viewing unconfirmed or unsolicited QSLs.
7. From the beginning, LOTW was designed to be a confirmation system. In
other words, both stations submit QSO data and LOTW automatically matches
them to obtain confirmations. It's analogous to what a QSL manager does,
except that confirmations are automatically routed to DXCC for pending
awards credit. Automatic confirmation is one of the big differences between
LOTW and the original eQSL design, and perhaps one reason why eQSL changed
their policy. Until the change, eQSL functioned more like an electronic
clearinghouse - a central repository of QSO data that facilitated manual
confirmation by users. LOTW's automatic confirmation means that you don't
have to decide, on a QSO-by-QSO basis, which contacts to confirm. You don't
have to pick through the incoming QSO data to determine which QSOs are
needed for credit and you don't have to do anything to submit them to DXCC.
Just upload your log and the rest is automatic.
8. Another crucial, and much more important, difference between LOTW and
eQSL is security of the data. Long before I entered the picture, ARRL had
been considering various designs for electronic QSLs. One of their biggest
concerns was the potential for modification of the QSO data. For example, I
receive an electronic QSL from 5A1A for 20M SSB, make a copy and change the
data to 10M CW so the confirmation will count for my 10M DXCC award. This is
trivially easy to do with computer data unless certain security precautions
are taken. I was one of several amateurs who suggested to ARRL that digital
signatures using public key cryptography could solve this and other security
problems. Digitally signed QSO data can't be altered without detection and
we can be positive that the signature came from a specific digital ID. To my
knowledge, no other method provides these safeguards. It may be argued that
this is stronger than the security of paper QSLs, but what's wrong with
that? Just because the old system wasn't secure, it doesn't mean the new one
shouldn't be. The extra security isn't necessary for exchanging pretty
postcards, but it sure enhances the integrity of the awards program.
9. A major problem for any security system, whether it be based on digital
IDs or passwords, is authentication. This is the process of determining the
identity of the person requesting the digital ID or password and safely
distributing the ID or password to that person. In the case of amateur
radio, the question is not so much identity per se, but callsign ownership.
The key requirement is that only the owner of a particular callsign, or a
QSL manager authorized by the owner, can digitally sign QSO data for that
callsign. But when some random online user claims to own a callsign, how do
we know he's telling the truth? It's a very difficult problem to solve, and
there are many tradeoffs. By far, this part of the LOTW design took the most
time and effort to work out. Almost half of the 83-page specification is
devoted to discussing authentication and related topics. Nine different
approaches were analyzed in great detail, including possible attack
scenarios and consequences. Using ARRL membership and e-mail addresses for
authentication, as suggested on this reflector, ranked among the weakest
methods (i.e., easy to cheat.)
10. Why so much security? Is it really necessary to use such advanced
methods to protect data that, in the final analysis, is important only to
hobbyists? Well, let's all remember the uproar that occurred when certain
DXpeditioners were found to have lied about the locations of some rare
operations (I can think of two famous cases.) One of the perpetrators was
also suspected of denying contacts to people he didn't like. Over the years,
the DXCC desk has intercepted plenty of altered cards and other attempts to
cheat the system. While some participants just say, "they're only cheating
themselves", others get pretty annoyed. Some feel quite diminished by the
thought of a cheater getting an Honor Roll plaque when they're still working
for it after 20 years and $1,000 in postage. There are others who, right or
wrong, aggressively protect their position in the Honor Roll list and would
be very vocal if "beaten" by a cheater. Although some may not take DXCC
seriously, there are many participants who take it very seriously, spend a
lot of money chasing awards, and care deeply about the integrity of the
program. I don't understand why anyone would cheat, but out of millions of
hams worldwide we're going to get quite a few who will.
11. There's a lot more to it than simple cheating -- there's also the
potential for malicious persons to undermine the integrity of the system by
stuffing it with lots of false data. A partial honor system works for paper
QSLs from non-rare entities because it's a lot of work to promulgate fake
cards on a big scale. Paper forgeries are likely to affect a small number of
people, or only the perpetrator. But computer fraud can be much more
damaging than paper fraud because it's easy to quickly duplicate the fraud
dozens, hundreds or thousands of times over. For example, without security I
could submit bogus P5 confirmations for hundreds of random callsigns in the
callbook. How does the computer know I'm not the real P5? For that matter, I
could submit bogus confirmations from any rare callsign. OK, let's say ARRL
doesn't allow electronic QSLs from rare entities unless mailed in on a
floppy disk with paper proof (sort of a pain for the DX station.) Then I'll
just flood the system with thousands of fake DL and OK confirmations. No one
will know who has a legitimate DL or OK and who doesn't. Don't care if DL or
OK cards are legit? How about the semi-rare ones that DXCC doesn't check?
Should we add more work for the DX and DXCC by requiring a floppy and paper
proof for those QSOs, too? What happens if someone hacks the ARRL server and
changes the QSO data for hundreds of users? What if a disgruntled ARRL
employee alters thousands of incoming QSL records just to get back at the
boss? How can we know whether any given QSO record was altered after it left
the sender's computer? Without good answers to these and many other
questions (or, worse, if a breach occurs), the LOTW system and the DXCC
program will be perceived to lack integrity. Once that horse gets out of the
barn, it'll be too late to put it back in.
12. One of the truisms in system design is that security and convenience
have an inverse relationship: the harder it is to breach a system, the less
convenient it will be to use (there can be tradeoffs with privacy, too --
e.g., are you prepared to let the government keep a digital copy of your
fingerprints in their database?) Much of the design work for LOTW involved
vigorous debates over this tradeoff. Everyone wanted the system to be
secure, but everyone also wanted it to be easy to use. KR1G and I were hired
to be the security experts, so naturally we advocated for as strong a system
as possible. ARRL staffers insisted on integrity of the system, but pushed
very hard to make it easy to get started and easy to use. I can assure you
that at all times the needs of LOTW's customers were paramount in everyone's
mind. In the end, it was hard for us to escape one piece of logic: you can
start out with strong security and, if it's too inconvenient, relax the
rules later on. But you can't do it the other way around.
13. Although automated software will not be provided for amateur-to-amateur
QSLing, the system design allows it. In theory, you can extract QSO data,
digitally sign it, send the signed QSO data to another station (for whom it
was unsolicited), get a confirming digitally signed QSO record in return,
then e-mail both records to LOTW for confirmation and awards credit for both
stations (or the station getting the unsolicited QSO data can send it in
along with his signed matching QSO data.) It doesn't matter who actually
e-mails the QSO data to LOTW -- it only matters that there are matching
records, each digitally signed by one of the stations. That said, I don't
know why anyone would go through the trouble. It's much easier just to
upload your log and forget about it. Besides, what DXpedition would want to
receive 50,000 e-mails before they even leave the island? Or have to send
50,000 e-mails back? The point is this: application design should be
appropriate for the medium that will be used. It is often the case that
mirroring a bricks-and-mortar or snail-mail design is not the best approach
for the Internet.
14. Someone wondered whether contest logs submitted to ARRL could
automatically get into LOTW. The implementation team is responsible for
selecting the LOTW format and I don't know what they settled on. My
understanding is that Cabrillo won't be adequate for all the QSO data we
might want to submit. Also, each LOTW record has to be digitally signed,
which is not part of the Cabrillo standard. The original spec for LOTW
records didn't have a field for a contest exchange, but I don't know what
the final spec will be. My conclusion is that it's likely you will have to
do two e-mail submissions: one in Cabrillo for the contest sponsor and one
in LOTW format for DXCC. As long as logging programs support the LOTW format
(as is hoped), it won't be a huge hardship to do two e-mails, and maybe the
logging programs will make this transparent to the user. It's entirely
possible that the two formats will merge down the road so that only one
submission will be required.
15. I plan to use LOTW for two things: 1) to get awards credit (faster
turnaround time, zero postage cost and no stolen cards/greenstamps/IRCs),
and 2) to ease the burden of responding to thousands of requests for contest
QSLs. I'll use mail or the buro to request a card for any new entity that I
work or from DXpeditions that offer interesting cards. But I'll get DXCC
credit right away through LOTW and I won't clog up the buro with new
band/mode requests or preemptive contest QSLs. My hope is that most contest
stations will stop preemptive QSLing and use LOTW instead. If paper QSLs are
requested only by those who really want them, or those who don't have access
to LOTW, then the burden on the buro, QSL managers and contest operators
should be greatly reduced.
I hope this too-lengthy e-mail sheds some light on the subject. Given that
full details about LOTW won't be released until the system becomes
available, it's understandable that there are some misimpressions about it.
But I would hope that in the future people would refrain from making
statements about the actions and motives of others without first
ascertaining the facts.
73, Dick WC1M
>From artinian at siol.net Sun Apr 14 21:41:12 2002
From: artinian@siol.net (Marijan Miletic, S56A)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PACKET AND SPOTTING
References: <02b401c1e257$87f81860$5a2afea9@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <018801c1e3f4$b7ae66b0$0100a8c0@S56A>
The pain is even greater in Internet addicts :-)
Stick with CW and HF radio!
73 de Mario, S56A, N1YU slowly packing for KH1
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Neiger" <n6tj@sbcglobal.net>
To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:23 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PACKET AND SPOTTING
> I read with great amusement of all the foibles the packet-eers have thrust
> upon themselves with accusations of "self spotting", etc etc, ad nauseum.
>
> Be careful of what you ask for. You just might get it.
>
>
> Jim Neiger
> N6TJ
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>From jjreisert at alum.mit.edu Sun Apr 14 19:52:44 2002
From: jjreisert@alum.mit.edu (Jim Reisert AD1C)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team U.A.E.
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020414185055.01590c98@mail.attbi.com>
This didn't make it to the CQ-Contest reflector, so here it is.
73 - Jim AD1C
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES TEAM (A61AJ) INVITED TO WRTC 2002
As part of its original plan for the WRTC 2002 event, the WRTC2002
organizing committee reserved the right to select one team with special
characteristics, while maintaining the high quality operator criteria
established as a hallmark for the WRTC 2002 games.
With this objective in mind, at its meeting on April 8, 2002, the committee
decided to invite a team from the United Arab Emirates (A61AJ) to be the
representative of the contesting community in the Middle East.
The teams operating from A61AJ have achieved superb results over the past
few years and this action seeks to recognize this fact. The inclusion of
this special team is thus viewed as a positive addition to the games.
Team UAE will be led by Ali Al-Futtaim, A61AJ, who has been the driving
force behind the development of what is one of the premier contest
superstations in the Middle East and Asia. In the spirit of the games, a
team has been selected that is representative of the current A61AJ
operating roster. While his team members are U.S. nationals, they also
represent the A61AJ team as it now stands in the contesting landscape.
Accordingly, we are delighted to welcome Ali Al-Futtaim, A61AJ, and his
operating team of Jeff Briggs, K1ZM, and Phil Goetz, N6ZZ, to the games as
the WRTC 2002 special team selection.
WRTC2002 Organizing Committee
--
Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863
USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
>From VE3ZT at rac.ca Sun Apr 14 21:06:38 2002
From: VE3ZT@rac.ca (Paul-VE3ZT)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spots. who needs 'em?
In-Reply-To: <000d01c1e34c$870dc210$6400000a@W5XD>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020414200109.00a6bc50@pop6.sympatico.ca>
Hi Wayne,
I thought there was something wrong with me until I read your post. At
least there are two of us who can't be bothered with that packet stuff.
Getting the beam pointed to within 20 or 30 degrees of Europe is high-tech
enough for me.
cu in the next one,
Paul, VE3ZT
________________
At 08:37 PM 13/04/2002, W. Wright, W5XD, you said...
>Am I the only person on the planet that thinks running packet in a contest
>REDUCES the enjoyment of the weekend? If the guys that are complaining at
>each other about abusing packet would all just quit using it, they might
>discover you enjoy the sense of accomplishment that comes with finding your
>own multipliers.
>
>As a software vendor I get requests that I can paraphrase as "please improve
>the aim of your software for shooting fish in a barrel--there were 100 fish
>in that barrel last weekend and I could have shot more than 90 of them if
>your software were better". I do attempt to "improve the aim" (should I?),
>but one the great mysteries of life is why folks don't try to go find fish
>that haven't been put the the barrel yet?
>
>Wayne, W5XD
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>From jjreisert at alum.mit.edu Sun Apr 14 21:17:16 2002
From: jjreisert@alum.mit.edu (Jim Reisert AD1C)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dodgy spotting
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHAECHDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020414201339.00b3cd98@mail.attbi.com>
At 11:22 AM 4/14/2002 -0400, jljarvis wrote:
>What we know, from Brett-VR2BG, from Jamie-NS3T, and from others on
>CQDXirc, is that not all spots come from the station whose callsign
>is indicated as the author.
Exactly! Here is a spot made during CQ WPX SSB:
AD1C 14215.1 OT2A says he is running 10 kW!! 0706 31 Mar 2002
The only reason I knew about this was I got an E-mail from one of the
operators denying the 10KW charge. But I never made the spot! I wasn't
even in the contest, except to give the prefix to a few friends. Second,
0706z is 2:06 a.m. local time and I was sound asleep.
73 - Jim AD1C
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>From kr1g at hotmail.com Mon Apr 15 02:40:57 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
Message-ID: <F1065HfqR77bieLYCT400005f1c@hotmail.com>
I agree with Bill 100% - its the OH's event. I can't even imagine the amount
of work they're doing, but I'm grateful even though i can't be there.
Its their contest, its their show - let them do what they see fit.
They can invite George Bush as an op, Yassar Arafat as the master of
ceremonies, run a seance in conjunction with the event trying to contact
great silent key contesters, or even invite relatively inexperienced ops and
give them stacks and amps for comic relief. I won't complain.
Bill, I won't bid on your spot - I'd only embarrass myself!
Well, I haven't read the whining - i don't *like* whining. Even though I'm
whining against whining myself.
Lets leave the OHs alone and let them do the fantastic good I'm sure they
will,
73
Ted KR1G
>From: "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com>
>To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
>
>
>Can't believe the whining about this team. Forget that both ops are world
>class. Forget that they announced this team well in advance.
>
>The OH's are putting on this event. It is THEIR contest. If they want to
>invite novice ops from OH0 who are sons of the biggest donor... its OK
>with me. They are doing all the work and coming up with all the money
>required to pull it off. To publically criticize them for any of their
>choices seems to me to be in very poor taste.
>
>As for money talks.... I will put my spot up for the highest bidder.
>Proceeds to benefit the event. Any talkers? eerrrr takers?
>
>73
>
>Bill Fisher
>
>
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>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Sun Apr 14 19:56:32 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204141528140.23160-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <014601c1e420$c47b8400$c46f7e42@sbcglobal.net>
The fact of the matter is: hosting a successful WRTC today is big business.
And certainly not-for-profit. Nor, apparently, in some circles, for credit
or gratitude, either.
Of course, money talks. I seem to recall the initial Finnish budget was of
the order of $200,000, with one-half coming from a major commercial sponsor.
Not exactly pocket change for anyone. Just where do all the purists think
this money is coming from?
Perhaps any future WRTC's will cost even more. What's the chance of any of
these future events happening if potential host nations become so disgusted
with what the Finn's experienced, that they wouldn't touch it with a 10
meter dipole?
I have known quite a few of the OH contesters, well, for over 30 years. A
MORE SERIOUS group of contesters you will not find.
We must (1) give them credit for even taking on the challenge of hosting
WRTC2002 (especially now in the post 9/11 era), and (2) assume they know
what they are doing.
If accepting "help" from any outside source, they believe to be the BEST way
to do it, why can't we simply stand back, and shut-up. Unless we can offer
some concrete assistance to them. More criticism, I'm sure, is what they
don't need.
If there ever is another WRTC, perhaps the financial help could come from
the formal formation of support organizations (kind of like the Political
Action Comittees in the USA), where EACH TWO MAN TEAM acquires sponsors, and
fund raising efforts, and the like, with 100% of the proceeds going to the
host WRTC Committee?
Jim Neiger
N6TJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 12:44 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Team UAE & Phins
>
> Can't believe the whining about this team. Forget that both ops are world
> class. Forget that they announced this team well in advance.
>
> The OH's are putting on this event. It is THEIR contest. If they want to
> invite novice ops from OH0 who are sons of the biggest donor... its OK
> with me. They are doing all the work and coming up with all the money
> required to pull it off. To publically criticize them for any of their
> choices seems to me to be in very poor taste.
>
> As for money talks.... I will put my spot up for the highest bidder.
> Proceeds to benefit the event. Any talkers? eerrrr takers?
>
> 73
>
> Bill Fisher
>
>
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>From k3pp at ptd.net Sun Apr 14 23:51:36 2002
From: k3pp@ptd.net (Glenn O'Donnell, K3PP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION>
Hi Dave,
I have the Top Ten DX Doubler SO2R controller, the Top Ten Band Decoders,
and a WX0B Six-Pak and it is a VY FB arrangement. A TTD decoder (with the
source-driver option) can drive both the Six-Pak and a I.C.E. multi-band
bandpass filter. The key is, some devices switch to ground (the filter) and
others switch to +12v (the Six-Pak). For the SO2R controller, there is also
the WX0B SO2R Master. The DXD is less expensive and I prefer the layout
and physical packaging, but both are great units.
With one computer, you can control everything from WriteLog, CT, or NA (and
I suspect TR, although I've never tried it). One computer consumes less
real estate, requires only one human interface, and is less trouble. I
can't say enough good things about this arrangement. All I need is another
amp, another bandpass filter, and time to use it all (and a lot of practice
to get the most out of it!), and I'll be in tip-top shape.
VY 73 de Glenn K3PP
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Robbins" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
To: "reflector cq-contest" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 10:59 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> I hate to reinvent the wheel, don't have a lot of time to homebrew or
> put together kits, and don't know much about operating so2r besides what
> I have seen from a few guest operators. But I am ready to buy the stuff
> needed to make a better so2r setup option on my m/m station. I am
> looking to buy as much as possible, preferably including cables already
> made up.
>
> The equipment would be:
> 2x ft-1000mp
> heil proset headset
> ct or na logging software
> dvp board for voice keying
> aea morsemachine or other external keyer(s)
> each band has its own coax coming in to the table
>
> What I am looking for are suggestions for 2 or 3 things:
> 1. a headset/keyer/mic/dvp switch with cables
> 2. a 6 antenna to 2 radio antenna switch with band decoder for each
> radio and control cables.
> 3. a 6 band 2 radio bandpass filter switch for between the radios and
> amps, or possibly two separate switched bandpass filters with cables and
> decoder.
>
> Could one decoder run both the antenna switch and bandpass filter
> switch?
>
> What is available off the shelf to do this?
>
> What are the pro's and con's of different models that are available, if
> there are choices?
>
> Is it better to run 1 computer or 2?? Why??
>
>
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>
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>From tavan at tibco.com Sun Apr 14 22:02:26 2002
From: tavan@tibco.com (Rick Tavan)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <3CBA50D2.F6236E1A@tibco.com>
I'm also an SO2R beginner. I took it up mainly so I could write upbeat,
encouraging columns about the experience for the NCCC newsletter. So if you get
responses from the Great Ones, listen to them more carefully. FWIW, here's what
I got and am pretty happy with (in order of your questions):
1. Top Ten Devices DX Doubler - well thought out, simple to use. Just plug in
the rigs, the
paddel, an (optional) external keyer, the computer, the phones and the mic.
Includes an optional cable for the 1000MP which is OK although the
connectors
and stiff cables stick out awkwardly from the radio. Good review of this
box in NCJ
recently by N0AX I believe.
Note that if you want to put an external DVK between the mic and the DXD
you will
need to make up a cable with a male mic connector. Rare. I'm doing it this
way but some of
the logging programs allegedly do well with sound cards in the computer and
that would
be a simpler hook-up.
2. WX0B Array Solutions Six Pack two radio antenna switch does exactly what you
want.
3. I got a pair of Dunestar 600 BPFs. One is driven by a Top Ten Band Decoder
for the 1000MP. (You will need one decoder for each MP). My second radio is a
930 so I have to use a manual switch for its filter. I got the decoder with two
sets of outputs so I can, in theory, drive the MP half of the Six Pack
automatically. Haven't hooked that up yet but I'm confident it can be made to
work. You have to build up a little diode matrix if any one feedline serves
more than one band. If you have multiple antennas for some bands, you may
prefer not to automate antenna switching.
You absolutely, positively want to use a single computer to drive this stuff
for SO2R. Don't even think about two. Programs like trlog understand you are
SO2R and do a lot of the headstanding for you. The DX Doubler has a cable to
the (single) computer that eliminates lots of custom cabling in and out of your
computer's parallel port. You don't want to worry about two keyboards and don't
have to with this setup. OTOH, if you want to do M/S you will have to have two
computers and network them. I've seen this done but never set it up myself.
The main alternative to all this stuff seems to be the Array Solutions SO2R
Master. I found several excellent contesters using each box. SO2R Master has
most of the connections on a box with no controls so it can be out of the way
behind the rigs. But the switch box takes up desk space. But it has nice
switches. The DX Doubler fits nicely under my rigs which sit on a shelf
supported by 2x4's. If you keep your rigs at table level, this may be a
problem. I chose DX Doubler because I understood the switch labels and N6RO
recommended it. But K5RC recommended SO2R Master. Study the ergonomics and pick
one.
If you have a second-radio antenna that is far away from the primary radio,
consider skipping the BPFs. Mine are quite unnecessary when I have Rig 1 on the
tribander and Rig 2 on the vertical 300' away. OTOH, when Rig 2 is on the 40m
rotary dipole on the same boom as the tribander, the BPFs are the only thing
that keeps the 20m receiver from turning to toast.
I have one RFI problem with this setup - the TTD band decoder gets funny when I
transmit on 10m so I have to switch in the 10m filter manually. Even with the
DXD you end up with quite a rat's nest of cables so I advise you to be more
careful with cable construction, grounding and connections.
It has been much more fun integrating all this stuff than actually operating
SO2R. That's hard! ;-)
73,
Rick N6XI
David Robbins wrote:
> I hate to reinvent the wheel, don't have a lot of time to homebrew or
> put together kits, and don't know much about operating so2r besides what
> I have seen from a few guest operators. But I am ready to buy the stuff
> needed to make a better so2r setup option on my m/m station. I am
> looking to buy as much as possible, preferably including cables already
> made up.
>
> The equipment would be:
> 2x ft-1000mp
> heil proset headset
> ct or na logging software
> dvp board for voice keying
> aea morsemachine or other external keyer(s)
> each band has its own coax coming in to the table
>
> What I am looking for are suggestions for 2 or 3 things:
> 1. a headset/keyer/mic/dvp switch with cables
> 2. a 6 antenna to 2 radio antenna switch with band decoder for each
> radio and control cables.
> 3. a 6 band 2 radio bandpass filter switch for between the radios and
> amps, or possibly two separate switched bandpass filters with cables and
> decoder.
>
> Could one decoder run both the antenna switch and bandpass filter
> switch?
>
> What is available off the shelf to do this?
>
> What are the pro's and con's of different models that are available, if
> there are choices?
>
> Is it better to run 1 computer or 2?? Why??
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
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>From ha5pp at yahoo.com Mon Apr 15 01:28:19 2002
From: ha5pp@yahoo.com (Zoltan Szoke)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 2002 Teams
Message-ID: <20020415072819.23678.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi Contesters,
Money talks...(??) (What does it mean?)
Only one JA-Team (In Slovenia: 3!!).
No Team-Oceania.
??
I think that the Finns (organizers) must find out
something. They want (simply) more teams for a bigger
competition. I believe in Finn's GOOD intent. (We
don't see the background, there is probably no
"enough" teams...)
Good luck to Organizers!
73
Zoli
HA5PP
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>From mitja.gregoric at hit.si Mon Apr 15 12:01:29 2002
From: mitja.gregoric@hit.si (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Mitja_Gregori=E8?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Lost LOG
Message-ID: <000901c1e45c$224fe4f0$4a284dc1@ng.hit.si>
Because of strange circumstances my WPX SSB log is lost for good.Things look
as far as im concerned desperate here.My mistake to trust to my computer and
to not make a copy.
Mike - S57LWG
E-mail: mitja.gregoric@hit.si
http://qsl.net/s57lwg
>From swca at swbell.net Mon Apr 15 08:13:38 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION>
Message-ID: <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
> With one computer, you can control everything from WriteLog, CT, or NA
(and
> I suspect TR, although I've never tried it).
TRlog can do all that. And more.
Mark, N5OT
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 15 07:33:40 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204151333.g3FDXeY19867@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
WX5S(@W6YX) 4553 1078 48 10,743,348 NCCC
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
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NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
NT6K 2254 845 48 4,173,455 NCCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
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WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
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NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
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N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
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N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
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AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
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KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
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N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
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KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
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NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
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W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
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KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
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K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
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N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
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USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
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USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
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USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
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USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
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USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
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USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
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USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
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USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
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USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
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USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 15 07:39:10 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
15Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204151339.g3FDdAQ19886@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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Non-USA M/M HP
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
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Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
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Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCC
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
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Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
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Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20h 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
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Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
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Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
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Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
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Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
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Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
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Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCC
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
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Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 464 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
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Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCC
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Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
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Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCC
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
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Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
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Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
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Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
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Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
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Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
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Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
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Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
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Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From s51ta at volja.net Mon Apr 15 16:37:10 2002
From: s51ta@volja.net (Tadej Mezek, S51TA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION> <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
Message-ID: <00d801c1e486$0fb14170$6c4548d9@home>
For SO2R the best software is TR (for now)-dualing CQ, but if writelog will
add some functions as they are on TR, writelog will be better i suppose.
The computers can do almost everything today so we must just wait a little
bit longer:)
I am using TR for so2r CW and writelog for SSB, because of voice keyer
symplicity...
73 Ted, s51ta
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Beckwith" <swca@swbell.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> > With one computer, you can control everything from WriteLog, CT, or NA
> (and
> > I suspect TR, although I've never tried it).
>
> TRlog can do all that. And more.
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
>
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 15 07:39:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204151339.g3FDdn019895@localhost.localdomain>
2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: jidx-hfcw@ne.nal.go.jp
Mail logs to:
JIDX HFCW Contest
c/o Five-Nine Magazine
PO Box 59
Kamata, Tokyo 144
Japan
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
AE0Q(@K0HM) 452 115 64,400 Grand Mesa
N0AC(@N0NI) 427 110 30 54,780
N2ED 255 96 7 29,184 FRC
K3WW 224 81 6 21,060 FRC
N6ZZ 192 82 20,910 SCCC
N9RV 161 70 3 15,190 SMC
VE7FO 120 70 9 10,780
N4GG 43 34 4 1,972 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
WN6K 238 88 21 30,008 SCCC
VE3BUC 86 47 5 4,042
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/10 LP
NT6K 127 41 5 10,414 NCCC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 15 07:40:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204151340.g3FDeQQ19906@localhost.localdomain>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 15Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCC
UA4LU 180 4 180
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
>From ns3t at arrl.net Mon Apr 15 10:58:52 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] re: dodgy spotting
Message-ID: <005501c1e485$b05924e0$5f20fccd@jvpcb01>
Your "spot" of OT2A was made thru a node in Germany.
73s Jamie NS3T
>AD1C 14215.1 OT2A says he is running 10 kW!! 0706 31 Mar 2002
>The only reason I knew about this was I got an E-mail from one of the
>operators denying the 10KW charge. But I never made the spot! I wasn't
>even in the contest, except to give the prefix to a few friends. Second,
>0706z is 2:06 a.m. local time and I was sound asleep.
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Mon Apr 15 13:24:45 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dodgy spotting
In-Reply-To: <200204142340.g3ENekAl002541@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020415120824.00d2c4a0@pop.pacific.net.hk>
N2EA added this, as well as other reasonable level-headed comments:
>I am not convinced that extensive spotting actually produces a real
>advantage.
It can be detrimental. I am often tempted to do self-spotting, but to
deliberately
mis-spot myself in hopes it reduces the mess these spots-gone-ballistic can
cause. I often am forced to abandon a run when things get messy like that.
>ps: (VR2BG...you were pounding in, here in VT on 15 this morning, Brett!)
I sensed the band was good, but so few called - even if I were serious in
JIDX HF CW this year, I'll happily work non-JAs when a JA isn't calling & even
reply to the pesky QSLs such contacts inevitably produce. JIDX is quickly
becoming no fun due to lack of activity & I'm sorry to say I spent most of the
weekend up on the roof enjoying the sun as a result.
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Mon Apr 15 17:58:59 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dodgy spotting
In-Reply-To: <200204151603.g3FG3RAl016620@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020415165035.00d2edf0@pop.pacific.net.hk>
Thanks to AD1C for noticing he too is making spots he didn't.
Anybody else?
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Apr 15 14:31:33 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R methodology
Message-ID: <008701c1e4a3$63643bc0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
I like to use two computers in SO2R because I am not that good at it...
The second station has its own keyboard and I can hunt and peck bits and
pieces of the callsign into it - maybe all or part of the exchange...and
once the timiong is right for a pause on the run rig and availability on the
secon d rig I hit F4...
If you only have one keyboard you can easily be overwhelmed...of course it
is more efficient and I am certain the winners have perfected their skills
along these lines...
Me I just am bored listening to myself call CQ so I do something else while
that is going on and at the same time fatten up the score....when it gets
too maddening I just run em....taking a pause from info overload...
Don't forget it is 12 days until the Florida QSO Party!
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
73,
Jim, K4OJ
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Mon Apr 15 16:20:33 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ web site?
Message-ID: <20020415152032.E4705@cs.utexas.edu>
Anybody know what's wrong with CQ's web site?
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/
--
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Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Tue Apr 16 00:22:09 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Writelog-RSGB Jubilee contest
Message-ID: <VA.00000c13.00269c51@gw3njw>
Hi
The module is now ready to have the ribbon tied on, thanks to
Ray/G4FON with help from Wayne/W5XD. However before we do the
final packaging I would like to have a few Guinea pig beta
testers.
What you'd need to do at this stage is to load a .dll file into
the .......\Writelog\programs directory and register the dll
using regsvr32. If this sounds daunting, it's not, and even a
dummy like me can do it! The final package will be self
installing for anyone challenged in this area however.
If you'd like to help, please email me and I'll either send you
the file or tell you where to download it.
tia
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
Contest Cambria-http://www.gw7x.org
>From K4ZW at Staffnet.com Tue Apr 16 02:00:26 2002
From: K4ZW@Staffnet.com (Ken Claerbout)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
Message-ID: <006101c1e4e2$190cdde0$9d504fc6@main>
Here's what I'm using at my QTH.
1.) Single computer with Writelog
2.) W5XD SO2R box (mine is the old kit form)
3.) Sound card in PC for voice keyer
4.) Top Ten band decoders on both radios
5.) WX0B Six Pak antenna switch
6.) WX0B (W3NQN design) BPF on the second radio only (this filter is worth
the money)
I've been using this arrangement for 2 years. I'm very happy with the
way everything is working and have no plans to change the setup unless
something better comes along. Here is what I consider some of the benefits
of this arrangement.
1.) with a click of the mouse, I'm able to listen to the second radio in
both ears while the "run" radio is in transmit. Or, I can listen to TX & RX
of a single radio full time by switching out of the latch function. I could
never last 48 hours with a different radio in each ear.
2.) By hitting shift and down arrow, I can enter a call from the second
radio without interrupting the run radio. Personally, I find this much more
convenient than wrestling with two computers.
3.) The right channel audio output of the sound card is wired to the run
radio (on the right) and the left channel to the second radio. Writelog
routes the audio to which ever rig is chosen. The software provides the
interlock that keeps me from transmitting on both radios at the same time.
A big no-no for Single Op! The same applies on CW from the SO2R box.
4.) The key to maximizing the effectiveness of second radio, is the ability
to hear signals of all strengths while the run radio is blasting away.
Antenna separation is important but so is a good bandpass filter (BPF).
Choose one wisely. Incidentally, I haven't seen the need to put a BPF on my
run radio.
73
Ken K4ZW
>From k9gx at n4gn.com Tue Apr 16 07:29:02 2002
From: k9gx@n4gn.com (Mark S. Williams)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [WRTC2002 0587] WRTC2002 Press Release #18 - Team
U.A. E.
References: <00ae01c1e27e$2ccdb540$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Message-ID: <002b01c1e510$20f43fc0$e0981ad8@iglou.com>
You know, Ali has built a world class station at A61AJ. He's invited some of
the best ops in the world to that station to maximize the effectiveness of
the hardware. He's earned a place on the "world stage" in our "game".
Why shouldn't he be part of the showcase that is the WRTC?
Who would you rather see in the Olympics? Athletes who are at the peak of
their game because they have the drive, determination and perserverence to
be the best in the world....or fat guys who eat three donuts for breakfast
every morning? (Not that I have anything against donuts, mind you...I have
yet to meet one I didn't like!)
Just a thought from K9GX who hopes to visit Helsinki this summer to watch
the WRTC performances and maybe, if I'm very lucky, find a chair at some
friendly OH shack during IARU.
73,
Mark
K9GX
>From s51ta at volja.net Tue Apr 16 09:42:09 2002
From: s51ta@volja.net (Tadej Mezek, S51TA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION> <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
<5.1.0.14.2.20020415170919.05091ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
HI!
I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is not
put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and the
audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
Are there any changes lately?
On writelog you just plug the microphone from heil or any other in SB mic
input, speaker output connect with TRX and the thing works perfectly anf it
even switch the mic off when transmit. And recording of messages is much
easier.....like k1ea dvk board.
Ted, s51ta
Otherwise I was always TR fan....maybe something can be done by Tree.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: "Tadej Mezek, S51TA" <s51ta@volja.net>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> At 03:37 PM 4/15/02 +0200, you wrote:
> >I am using TR for so2r CW and writelog for SSB, because of voice keyer
> >symplicity...
>
>
> Ted, you might want to look at the freeware package SBDVP. It integrates
> very tightly with TR and uses a SB-16 or similar sound card. The best
part
> is that all of the keystrokes of TR of TR work just as on CW - for
example,
> when running, you type in a station's callsign, dupe with the spacebar,
say
> his callsign and hit Enter. The program sends your exchange to him. You
> type in his exchange for you and hit [Enter] again, and the program sends
> the QSL message. The only thing it won't do is voice callsigns and serial
> numbers from typed input, but that is mostly an academic advantage, and
> Writelog doesn't do that anyway, does it?
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
>From jim at kc4hw.net Tue Apr 16 07:40:02 2002
From: jim@kc4hw.net (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
In-Reply-To: <006101c1e4e2$190cdde0$9d504fc6@main>
Message-ID: <200204161040.g3GAe2oh013541@smtp-server3.tampabay.rr.com>
> 1.) Single computer with Writelog
I have been using one computer with two video cards and two monitors.
Unfortunately my vision is not a good as it once was and this gives me
the opportunity to run both monitors at 800x600. This confirguration give
the ability to treat two monitors as one. The mouse will scroll back and
forth between the two. You can put alot of the misc windows on the
second monitor and reserve the main monitor for the log, bandmaps,
decode windows (rtty), etc
There are limitations on what cards can be used. On Win98SE check in
the help for Multiple Display Support and make sure your video cards are
compatible.
Jim Johnson, Melbourne, Florida
jim@kc4hw.net - http://www.kc4hw.net
DXCluster RF Connection: 144.97
DXCluster Telnet: Coming Soon
>From 00tlzivney at bsu.edu Tue Apr 16 09:44:24 2002
From: 00tlzivney@bsu.edu (Zivney, Terry L.)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NIL on 40m SSB split
Message-ID: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBA9A@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
Like many of you, I have been studying my UBN report
from the 2001 CQ WW SSB contest in order to see what
copying mistakes I had made.
My biggest surprise was that I lost 3 multipliers on
40 m ssb. Now, I could easily understand thinking I
was working one station while actually working another
in the crowded 40m CW segment, but how in the world
does this happen when working split? In each case,
I was transmitting up on the frequency requested by
the DX station calling CQ. In each case, I am sure
I heard my call on the CQ frequency. In each case,
I obviously copied a valid call on the CQ frequency,
because the three stations in question each made more
than 4,000 QSOs. And, needless to say, each of these
stations had big signals so it seems unlikely there
was a second station CQing on the same frequency and
listening on the same split, given that most of the
time the standard CQ includes "listening on this
frequency and 72**."
What can I do to improve on this problem?
Terry Zivney, N4TZ/9
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 16 07:47:56 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204161347.g3GDluV20763@localhost.localdomain>
2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: jidx-hfcw@ne.nal.go.jp
Mail logs to:
JIDX HFCW Contest
c/o Five-Nine Magazine
PO Box 59
Kamata, Tokyo 144
Japan
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
AE0Q(@K0HM) 452 115 64,400 Grand Mesa
N0AC(@N0NI) 427 110 30 54,780
N2ED 255 96 7 29,184 FRC
K3WW 224 81 6 21,060 FRC
N6ZZ 192 82 20,910 SCCC
N9RV 161 70 3 15,190 SMC
VE7FO 120 70 9 10,780
N4GG 43 34 4 1,972 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
WN6K 238 88 21 30,008 SCCC
SV1CIB 109 66 9,174
VE3BUC 86 47 4 4,042
WA6BOB 35 33 2 1,155
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/10 LP
OM5AW 466 44 10 20,504
NT6K 127 41 4 10,414 NCCC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 16 07:48:32 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204161348.g3GDmW020773@localhost.localdomain>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 16 07:51:44 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
16Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204161351.g3GDpiA20787@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 16Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
VE7SCC 2120 0 48 4,406,904 Coquitlam Amateur Ra
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
P40V 6610 1251 48 25,617,978 NCCC
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCF
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 <36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28.5 1,318,518
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20h 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35.8 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 @12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCF
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32.8 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 542 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
VE5SF 628 366 9 543,510
PA5AT 648 383 15 hr 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCF
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCF
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
YT1RA 1227 588 36 1,535,268 YU CC
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18.5 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14.4 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35.6 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30,5 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCF
YT9X(YZ1KA) 1346 629 36 1,697,042 YU CC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
K3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Tue Apr 16 14:34:18 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204161331320.30467-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Still have not seen any of the 3 plaques I (we) supposedly won in the WPX
CW and SSB contests. One is four years old now.
So, I'm curious if anyone is actually paying CQ for the plaques? If so,
where is the money going?
73
Bill, W4AN
>From n4uk at mindspring.com Tue Apr 16 21:37:11 2002
From: n4uk@mindspring.com (n4uk@mindspring.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Quartz Hill C.C New Zealand
Message-ID: <Springmail.0994.1019003831.0.22034700@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
Sorry for the bandwidth guys. Lost the e-mail address of the ZLs from
Wellington. I hope to be in Wellington on Friday. Can someone send me tel
numbers or E-mail addresses from the Quartz Hill Radio Club members?
Thanks, Ken, N4UK. SOuth of Taupo, NZ
>From k2av at contesting.com Tue Apr 16 22:03:16 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NIL on 40m SSB split
References: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBA9A@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
Message-ID: <00c101c1e5ab$a89aa540$0500a8c0@swift>
This one smells like the old
fumble-fingered-ten-thumbs-while-working-USA-SSB-stations-at-4-AM-in-t
he-morning-local-after-being-up-all-night jinx.
In your case, specifically, from across the pond,
"November Four Tango Zulu Five Nine One Four"
as he types in "N4RZ", and too bleary eyed to tell he missed the
key...
Been there, done that...
73, Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zivney, Terry L." <00tlzivney@bsu.edu>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Cc: <smc@qth.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 9:44 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NIL on 40m SSB split
> Like many of you, I have been studying my UBN report
> from the 2001 CQ WW SSB contest in order to see what
> copying mistakes I had made.
>
> My biggest surprise was that I lost 3 multipliers on
> 40 m ssb. Now, I could easily understand thinking I
> was working one station while actually working another
> in the crowded 40m CW segment, but how in the world
> does this happen when working split? In each case,
> I was transmitting up on the frequency requested by
> the DX station calling CQ. In each case, I am sure
> I heard my call on the CQ frequency. In each case,
> I obviously copied a valid call on the CQ frequency,
> because the three stations in question each made more
> than 4,000 QSOs. And, needless to say, each of these
> stations had big signals so it seems unlikely there
> was a second station CQing on the same frequency and
> listening on the same split, given that most of the
> time the standard CQ includes "listening on this
> frequency and 72**."
>
> What can I do to improve on this problem?
>
> Terry Zivney, N4TZ/9
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>From k8dx at raex.com Tue Apr 16 22:27:40 2002
From: k8dx@raex.com (Scott Detloff K8DX)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204161331320.30467-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <01d101c1e5af$1188cca0$1c1ec4d8@oemcomputer>
Hi Bill,
I know exactly what you mean. As a matter of fact I spoke with
N8BJQ, a few weeks ago about this and I offered to help handle
making and sending out past due and future plaques. He said that
he had it under control, since he was only backed up a few years!
I made the same offer to K1AR about the CQ WW plaques. His
reply was much more positive. With some teamwork, he figures
that if I could give him a hand, plaques would hit about the same time
the results are out. What a novel idea, eh?
Scott K8DX
Scott Detloff K8DX
Paris, Ohio
Visit The North Coast Contesters @ www.qsl.net/ncc
Tour K8DX @ www.qsl.net/k8dx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:34 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
>
> Still have not seen any of the 3 plaques I (we) supposedly won in the WPX
> CW and SSB contests. One is four years old now.
>
> So, I'm curious if anyone is actually paying CQ for the plaques? If so,
> where is the money going?
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
>
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>
>
>From kh6nd at lava.net Tue Apr 16 18:02:49 2002
From: kh6nd@lava.net (kh6nd@lava.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204161331320.30467-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <3CBCE5D9.1B9AEB8C@lava.net>
Bill,
You can add 9 more CQ plaques that were won, and never received, from
1997-2001 efforts at KH7R.
Six for WPX, one for CQ 160, and last but not least, two of these were
the CQ WW World M/M combined trophies from 1997 and 1998.
Anyone else care to add to this list?
Mike
KH6ND
"Bill Fisher, W4AN" wrote:
>
> Still have not seen any of the 3 plaques I (we) supposedly won in the WPX
> CW and SSB contests. One is four years old now.
>
> So, I'm curious if anyone is actually paying CQ for the plaques? If so,
> where is the money going?
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
>
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From ua9cdc at mail.ur.ru Wed Apr 17 15:07:14 2002
From: ua9cdc@mail.ur.ru (Igor Sokolov)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION> <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
<5.1.0.14.2.20020415170919.05091ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
<00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
Message-ID: <007f01c1e5ec$9eb83740$0801a8c0@mail.ur.ru>
> I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is
not
> put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and
the
> audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
I am prepared to demonstrate you on the air that the audio that comes from
SBDVP is as good or better then that coming from the mike. I have been using
SBDVP for the last 3-4 years and noticed that my CQ attracts more callers if
sent with SBDVP were the audio can be preprocessed.
> even switch the mic off when transmit. And recording of messages is much
> easier.....like k1ea dvk board.
Recording with SBDVP is Ctl-F# then play it back by pressing that F#
Just wonder what can be easier and more intuitive?
73, Igor UA9CDC
>
>
> Ted, s51ta
>
>
> Otherwise I was always TR fan....maybe something can be done by Tree.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
> To: "Tadej Mezek, S51TA" <s51ta@volja.net>
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
>
>
> > At 03:37 PM 4/15/02 +0200, you wrote:
> > >I am using TR for so2r CW and writelog for SSB, because of voice keyer
> > >symplicity...
> >
> >
> > Ted, you might want to look at the freeware package SBDVP. It
integrates
> > very tightly with TR and uses a SB-16 or similar sound card. The best
> part
> > is that all of the keystrokes of TR of TR work just as on CW - for
> example,
> > when running, you type in a station's callsign, dupe with the spacebar,
> say
> > his callsign and hit Enter. The program sends your exchange to him. You
> > type in his exchange for you and hit [Enter] again, and the program
sends
> > the QSL message. The only thing it won't do is voice callsigns and
serial
> > numbers from typed input, but that is mostly an academic advantage, and
> > Writelog doesn't do that anyway, does it?
> >
> > 73, Pete N4ZR
> >
> > Check out the World HF
> > Contest Station Database at
> > www.pvrc.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Wed Apr 17 13:39:57 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
References: <Springmail.0994.1019003831.0.22034700@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <005a01c1e5f3$d6c23530$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
As far as UBNs were mentioned I might say that I noticed quite a few -B
calls in our ES9C M/M UBN report that were actually absolutely fine and
existing calls and had been worked by many stations - 30, 40, or even more.
There was seemingly no reason to determine them -B (no Wn or anything). I
know for sure some of them were OK QSOs as I even remember them. Like my
first QSO on 20m -
1 -B ly3bh(3) ly3by(1224)ww ly3bx(850)n ly3be(644)ww ly3bg(108) w3bh(2)
It's a well-known contester from LY and we even chatted a few words in the
beginning of the contest. He has only made a few QSOs as I suspect he worked
in some M/S team maybe...
Another example on 20m:
2183 -B f8btq(17) f8bqq(552)h f8bdq(21) f8bvq(8) hb9btq(147) py7btq(6)
and on 10m:
269 -B ea8zc(5) ea8zs(4250)ww ea8zz(12) ea8jc(7)
It is a bit irritating actually, don't know if anybody else has noticed
it...
73
Tonno
ES5TV
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Wed Apr 17 09:49:11 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you on this reflector because you like contesitng?
Message-ID: <000501c1e60e$465cc4e0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Are you a contest club member?
Guess you like contesting, huh?
Did you know there is a club competition category in the Florida QSO Party?
Well..now you do, as a matter of fact, here are the results of the 2,001
club competition for US Clubs outside of Florida:
US Clubs
CLUB SCORE ENTRANTS QTH
1 Mad River RC 231,604 5 MI/OH/IN
2 Society of Midwest Contesters 215,076 5 IL/IN/MO
3 Frankford RC 170,244 3 PA/DE
4 Western New York DX Assn 95,424 1 NY
5 Stanford Univ ARC 90,768 1 CA
6 Southern California Contest Club 69,534 2 CA
7 Univ of ID ARC 62,656 1 ID
8 Northern California Contest Club 51,656 2 CA/NV
9 Texas DX Society 44,880 1 TX
10 Carolina DX Assn 36,432 1 NC
11 Carl Hayden 27,692 2 AZ
12 Oklahoma DX Assn 21,504 1 OK
13 Heartland DX Assn 16,192 2 NE
14 Southeast Contest Club 13,700 3 GA/AL
15 Potomac Valley Radio Club 13,416 1 NC
16 Yankee Clipper Contest Club 9,506 1 MA
17 Northern Arizona DX Assn 9,400 1 AZ
18 Central Texas DX and Contest Club 5,808 1 TX
19 NC State Univ 1,924 1 NC
20 Univ of Chicago ARC 770 1 IL
21 Metro DX Club 646 1 IL
22 Motor City DX Club 108 1 MI
Here are the results from the DX clubs outside of the US
DX Clubs
CLUB SCORE ENTRANTS QTH
1 Kaunas Univ. of Technology RC 42,140 1 LY
2 RSGB 29,410 1 G
3 Top of Europe Contesters 3,950 3 SM
4 Radio Club Uruguay 1,880 1 CX
5 Lithuanian DX Group 144 1 LY
Note that the Kaunas University score is 10th among the non-FL clubs
submitting scores, and that score was from long time FQP supporter Gedas,
LY3BA - due to poor conditions he only worked 57 of the 67 counties this
past year, that's right LY - Lithuania - tope European scorer M0SDX only
missed 2 counties on CW!
....also note that sometimes only one score is being submitted by a contest
club...even if you only get on for a few hours please submit your score for
your club - this is an aspect of the FQP yet to mature - I would love to see
that happen! Note that many of the contest clubs with newer members are
using the state QSO Parties as training grounds for the "majors" - why not
make the FQP one of those opportunities? We also have School competition
and Novice/Tech categories! The Floirda COntest Group exists to promote
contesting - anything we can do to help you promote contesting - we would
love to help other contest clubs do same!
The FQP is a good contest for contesters - why do I say that?
Because the contest rules were written by, the predominance of operators
are, and results are compiled by
CONTESTERS
This year marks the fifth year of sponsorship of the FQP by the Florida
Contest Group. As a contest club we know what contesters like...and we try
and offer it up...if your having fun we're having fun!
I encourage all contesters to get on and send in a score for their club -
there are many awards available in the FQP including the club competition.
Spend a little while cruising the FQP website - read the excellent write-ups
of the contest by logchecker and two time returning WRTC 1st place team
member K1TO....this is definitely NOT our Dad's State QSO Party!
Good ops - snappy exchanges - and no rotor spinning!
Go on, go to the website - its great reading - click on your state record
and see the opportunity for you to own a state record!
Go there and study up - after all the Florida QSO Party is only 10 days
away!
We have commitments for the activation on all but 6 Florida counties with
three mobile teams yet to check in with their routes (yes, this info is on
the website, too!) I feel safe in saying that once again a sweep of the 67
Florida Counties will be possible in the FQP....
Surf on over to:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp/
If you love contests, you'll love the FQP! Would I steer you wrong? C'mon
get - on - I'll let you work me in Sweepstakes this November :-)
73,
Jim White, K4OJ
aka one of the K4FCG/M team once a year!
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Wed Apr 17 10:12:21 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ron D. Rossi)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
In-Reply-To: <00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
Message-ID: <200204171312.JAA25908@johnpaul.btv.ibm.com>
>>>"Tadej Mezek, S51TA" said:
>
> HI!
>
> I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is not
> put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and the
> audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
This is sound card dependent. I run my heil into my soundcard whose output
goes right to the radio. I run SBDVP with TR and I can record messages on the
fly...truly a wonderful thing. The mic however is not muted on TX of a
recorded message.
Who knows...there just may be improvements in the future.
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron rossi(kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From k3lr at k3lr.com Wed Apr 17 09:36:26 2002
From: k3lr@k3lr.com (Tim Duffy K3LR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UPDATE Dayton Contest Dinner 2002
Message-ID: <3CBD7A5A.34C9B6ED@k3lr.com>
******Tickets are selling very fast. Do not delay your order.******
UPDATE!!!! We are honored to have Joe Taylor, K1JT as our featured
dinner speaker this year.
Joe was awarded the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1993 and is also a noted
VHF Contest enthusiast.
The North Coast Contesters are pleased to announce:
The 10th Annual Dayton Contest Dinner
Tickets are on sale NOW.
Master of Ceremonies is CQ Magazine Contest Editor and
CQ Contest Hall of Fame member, John Dorr, K1AR
The 2002 Contest Hall of Fame Induction's will be formally announced by
the CQ WorldWide Contest Director and CQ Contest Hall of Fame member,
Bob Cox, K3EST.
Several WRTC 2002 activities are planned.
The dinner will be held on Saturday night, May 18, 2002 at 6:30 PM:
Cash bar opens at 5:30 PM.
Located at the Crowne Plaza Hotel (Official Contest Hotel)
5th and Jefferson Streets (Next to the Convention Center)
Dayton (Downtown), Ohio in the VAN CLEVE BALLROOM
Menu: Prime Rib of Beef, Potato, vegetables, rolls, chocolate fudge
cake, choice of beverage, coffee, tea or iced tea.
*** Vegetarian menu available by request at the dinner.
Price is $30.00 per person.
**** SEATING IS LIMITED TO 300, SO ORDER YOUR TICKETS EARLY ****
Seating is random and is not reserved. Tables are set in rounds or 8.
All dinner ticket orders are handled exclusively by Craig Clark, W1JCC
at:
Radioware and Radio Bookstore
PO Box 209
Rindge, NH 03461
http://www.radio-ware.com
You can place your order by calling:
Monday through Friday from 10 AM to 6 PM eastern USA time.
1-800-457-7373
1-603-899-6957 for International
or by FAX 1-603-899-6826 24 hours
You can also EMAIL your orders to: nx1g@monad.net
Visa, Mastercard, American Express. Sorry no COD orders.
EMAILs must include charge card + number, callsign and return address
information.
Tickets will be sent via First Class US Mail no later than May 7, 2002.
Please allow plenty of time for your tickets to arrive before you leave
for Dayton.
Radioware and Radio Bookstore is not responsible for tickets lost in the
mail.
*** Special thanks to Craig Clark, W1JCC for once again handling the
tickets ***
Deadline for ticket orders is May 6, 2002. NO EXCEPTIONS
There will be no tickets at the door.
Many contest operators from around the world attend this event. If you
enjoy radio contesting, you do not want to miss this dinner.
We expect a quick sell out. Order your tickets early!
73!
Tim K3LR
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Wed Apr 17 10:49:11 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Room space available?
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJCEBEECAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Now that I've retired from work, I have time to finally attend a Dayton
Hamvention.
Of course, no room (I tried calling at 8:15am that fateful day).
Does anyone at the Crowne Plaza have available floor space in their room
they can share?
I will pay my portion of the room, obviously.
I have a sleeping bag.
I know some cowboy poetry.
I don't smoke and I don't know N5RP.
73,
dale, kg5u
>From i4jmy at iol.it Wed Apr 17 19:06:49 2002
From: i4jmy@iol.it (=?iso-8859-1?Q?i4jmy@iol.it?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] =?iso-8859-1?Q?UBN?=
Message-ID: <GUPZFD$0C7EB579BF04EA4CF7BE3235BFF8A588@iol.it>
Checked UBN fles of last WWDX SSB.
Found removed QSOs and mults.
Used Writelog, all contest digitally recorded and easy to target and
listen to verify each single doubt.
A number of bad QSO is instead Ok, but who knows if the other guy
didn't forget to log or lost the qso with us typing wrong and the
erasing with no memory...
OK also for the unavoidable limits of the checking system, nothing is
perfect.
Finally I like this checking way, also when good QSOs becomes a
penalty, each medicine isn't "panacea" and has it's side effects.
Thanks CQ and WWDX contest committee for the big job and improvements,
now it's thousand times better than what it was before and what happens
isn't their sin.
What I don't like at all is instead to have discovered a particular
mult & country and zone removed in 3 bands (80, 40 & 10).
I'm talking about a very known MultiOp top contest station that entered
in our log probably with
his "free_run_hunting_fox_illegal_same_band_station" since it did
breaking our pile up (an easy to check thing when a record is
available) and then removed the QSO, by purpose, I don't want to
question why.
That's all folks, and I'll sleep fine in any case.
73,
Mauri I4JMY (IR4T)
PS Do not ask me who that station is, if I didn't write here, it means
I don't want to tell.
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Wed Apr 17 14:31:38 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Helvetia (HB9) contest and FQP
Message-ID: <ba.24841380.29ef0b7a@aol.com>
Hello Gang,
I am appending a message from Urs, HB9ABO, a good friend of mine whom I met
on the 3B7RF DXpedition in 1998. Urs and I have been corresponding to
coordinate, as best we can, Qso's between participants in the FQP and the
Helvetia (HB9) contest which have overlapping times.
Here is the HB9 contest info from Urs:
"The 1600 - 0200 UTC period of your FQP coincides with
the first part of our Helvetia 26 contest.
HB9 stations send:
RS(T) QSO No, Canton
Where Canton is one of
ZH BE LU UR SZ OW NW GL ZG FR SO SH
BS BL AR AI GR SG AG TG TI VD VS NE GE JU
Those who will think of, will add "DX" at the end:
eg. 579123 AR DX
Foreign stations send RST and QSO Number."
Urs sent this info about HB9O which I thought would be of interest:
"Also I am still doing some work with the Swiss Humanitary
Aid Unit's specialized group CommunicationS.
HB9BXE, HB9BQW, HB9BQI are in a group of about two dozen
hams who studied then realized a complete renewal of the
Ham radio station at the Swiss Museum of Transport - HB9O.
They raised funds of more than CHF 100'000 and the new
station is now almost complete. As a member of the newly
created operating group I am now busy with instructing operators
coming from all parts of the country.
There are five working places at HB9O:
- "Individual": Terminals of all antennas, 230 V, 13.6 VDC, control
of all rotators. This place enables a ham to bring his own equipment
with him to use it at HB9O.
- ATV: Amateur Television (Reception of Satellite Signals)
- VHF/UHF: well - repeater traffic, hi. Be sure, before long I will
install a CW key there too!
- Digital VHF/UHF/HF All digital modes, spectators can watch QSOs
on large screens
- HF: FT920, good old TR7, CW/SSB
Only one of this places will be active at any time.
The station will also be on the web and there are two interactive
consoles where the spectators can see and hear "what is amateur
radio?".
So I am rather busy, travelling three times to Lucerne a week
and at home writing and updating the station's operator's manual...
bcnu on contest!
73, Urs, HB9ABO
Tnx & 73, George, K5KG/K4FQP
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From AA4NC at aol.com Wed Apr 17 17:55:48 2002
From: AA4NC@aol.com (AA4NC@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
Message-ID: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
Bill,
Don't feel like the lone ranger. I have given up waiting for CQ magazine
contest plaques that never arrived dating back to 1984! Some of these were
multiop plaques that I paid for to get copies for myself and other operators.
I feel lucky to even get a paper certificate from a CQ contest! Most of these
also seem to get lost in the same black hole with the plaques. I guess they
figure that most people are too busy calculating UBN statistics to notice that
they never get their "awards" for CQ contests.
We just have to look at N1ND and crew at ARRL to see how it SHOULD be done!
73,
Will
>From je1cka at jzap.com Thu Apr 18 12:05:22 2002
From: je1cka@jzap.com (Tack Kumagai)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] JIDX Email-Log received List
Message-ID: <200204180205.LAA00588@ne.nal.go.jp>
I have uploaded past and current JIDX contest email-log received list to
the following URL
http://je1cka.jzap.com/jidx/index.html
http://je1cka.jzap.com/jidx/2002-hfcw-log-list.html
will update twice a week
---------
JIDX contest committee chairman
Tack Kumagai JE1CKA/KH0AM
Email: jidx-chairman@ne.nal.go.jp
http://je1cka.jzap.com/jidx/
>From thompson at mindspring.com Wed Apr 17 22:58:13 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NIL on 40m SSB split
References: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBA9A@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
<00c101c1e5ab$a89aa540$0500a8c0@swift>
Message-ID: <012501c1e67e$9f613420$348156d1@default>
Two problems can occur in working split on 40 (even in just S&P operation).
1. Timing of reply error. Here a Dx station gives a report that you think
is for you but its for another station.
2. The false duplicate contact. This is a problem that occurs with the
Dx station but can occur with a W/VE running stations as well. Often the
Dx station is listening on a frequency (say 7215) but at any given time
there are several others listening on or about the same frequency. So you
give a report to say IK3XXX and he logs it correctly but HB9AAA also logs
the QSO thinking you are working him. Later you call HB9AAA and he says
"work b4."
This just happened to me in my 1 hour run during the WPX SSB. I spent 30
minutes S&Ping and 30 minutes running. Toward the end of my S&P operation I
called a semi rare station and got "worked before." At least I knew that I
was already in his log. Now the problem for the serious competitor
is to correct this and get in the log properly.
Now how do you minimize these mistakes? The best way is to say the Dx
stations call as you call him. If the other DX station hears this he or
she will not log you by mistake. Make sure the station repeats your call
or clearly gives your call. If there is ANY uncertainty ask for a repeat
and confirmation!
In running make sure you say the stations call clearly (one rule is to stay
with the same phonetics yours and his!!!) so you get the correct station to
log you. I hear Dxpeditions talking too fast or never completing the call
before QRZ and I can guess at the duplicates this causes. One other rule is
to give your complete call. I call this the N6RJ/HB9TL rule. Let the Dx
ask for a couple of letters.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From k8cc at comcast.net Thu Apr 18 01:25:17 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (Dave Pruett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Michigan QSO Party
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020418000015.00a3c9e0@mail.comcast.net>
This coming weekend is the Michigan QSO Party, sponsored by the Mad River
Radio Club. Complete rules can be found on the MRRC web site
http://www.mrrc.net, but here are the basics:
Begins: 1600 UTC - 20 April 2002
Ends: 0400 UTC - 21 April 2002
A station can be worked once per band-mode (CW/SSB) on 80-10
meters. Non-MI stations work MI stations. MI stations work anyone. MI
mobile stations can be worked again when they change counties.
Exchange: MI stations send QSO number and county. Non-MI stations send QSO
number and state/province, or "DX" for non-W/VE.
Multipliers: Counted once per mode (CW/SSB). MI stations count MI counties
(83), states (49) and VE provinces (58). Non-MI stations count MI counties.
Classes: Single-op (high, low and QRP power), multi-operator and mobile
(100W only).
Logs should be submitted within 30 days to mqp@contesting.com or via postal
mail to: MRRC, c/o Dave Pruett, K8CC, 2727 Harris Road, Ypsilanti, MI 48198.
Contest configuration files for the MiQP are available for NA, TRLog and
WriteLog. A demo version of the NA Contest Logging Program which supports
MiQP and certain other state QSO parties is available for free from the
DATOM Engineering web site at http://www.datomonline.com.
Since the MiQP contest format and rules were streamlined in 1999, activity
has increased every year. For the past two years, all 83 MI counties were
on the air through a combination of mobiles and home stations. For 2002,
there will be least ten well-equipped mobile stations out roaming the MI
countryside. We'll publish a list of calls and the counties they plan to
activate tomorrow evening. Also, a number of club stations, including the
well-known W8SH at Michigan State University and perhaps W8YY at Michigan
Tech plan to be QRV.
73,
Dave Pruett, K8CC
>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Thu Apr 18 13:14:30 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why can't I get SBDVP to record?
References: <003801c1e3c4$ebb223a0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
<017901c1e428$82def880$6501a8c0@STATION> <03ea01c1e476$fab67560$934afea9@TL01>
<5.1.0.14.2.20020415170919.05091ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
<00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
<007f01c1e5ec$9eb83740$0801a8c0@mail.ur.ru>
Message-ID: <00ed01c1e6bd$e97ff890$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Guys, as you are successfully using it - can you give me an advice? I am
quite desperate already. I have WIN 98 and E-Dio SC4000 (ALS4000) SB Pro
compatible PCI soundcard - Win and DOS drivers installed.
I can start SBDVP and TR both in WIN or in MS-DOS but both ways allow me
only to play the example message under F10. I can not record. It creates an
empty file when I try to record with CTRL-F1. Maybe I have some conflict
between DOS and WIN soundcard dirvers, I don't know.
I can record sound files with Windows Sound Recorder though. Can I somehow
convert the WAV files into DVP files and record under Windows???
73
Tonno
ES5TV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Sokolov" <ua9cdc@mail.ur.ru>
To: "Tadej Mezek, S51TA" <s51ta@volja.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> > I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is
> not
> > put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and
> the
> > audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
>
> I am prepared to demonstrate you on the air that the audio that comes from
> SBDVP is as good or better then that coming from the mike. I have been
using
> SBDVP for the last 3-4 years and noticed that my CQ attracts more callers
if
> sent with SBDVP were the audio can be preprocessed.
>
> > even switch the mic off when transmit. And recording of messages is much
> > easier.....like k1ea dvk board.
>
> Recording with SBDVP is Ctl-F# then play it back by pressing that F#
> Just wonder what can be easier and more intuitive?
>
>
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
> >
> >
> > Ted, s51ta
> >
> >
> > Otherwise I was always TR fan....maybe something can be done by Tree.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
> > To: "Tadej Mezek, S51TA" <s51ta@volja.net>
> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
> >
> >
> > > At 03:37 PM 4/15/02 +0200, you wrote:
> > > >I am using TR for so2r CW and writelog for SSB, because of voice
keyer
> > > >symplicity...
> > >
> > >
> > > Ted, you might want to look at the freeware package SBDVP. It
> integrates
> > > very tightly with TR and uses a SB-16 or similar sound card. The best
> > part
> > > is that all of the keystrokes of TR of TR work just as on CW - for
> > example,
> > > when running, you type in a station's callsign, dupe with the
spacebar,
> > say
> > > his callsign and hit Enter. The program sends your exchange to him.
You
> > > type in his exchange for you and hit [Enter] again, and the program
> sends
> > > the QSL message. The only thing it won't do is voice callsigns and
> serial
> > > numbers from typed input, but that is mostly an academic advantage,
and
> > > Writelog doesn't do that anyway, does it?
> > >
> > > 73, Pete N4ZR
> > >
> > > Check out the World HF
> > > Contest Station Database at
> > > www.pvrc.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From coaching at barrybettman.com Thu Apr 18 03:51:50 2002
From: coaching@barrybettman.com (Barry Bettman, PCC- Success Coaching
[mailto:coaching@barrybettman.com])
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dayton roomate
Message-ID: <3CBE9736.B331EB22@barrybettman.com>
I am looking for a roommate and nonsmoking room to share for May 16th
Thursday, May 17th Friday, and May 18th Saturday at Dayton. Please
contact:
Barry K6ST
coaching@barrybettman.com
650-726-1205
>From k4ww at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 07:32:54 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004301c1e6c4$665c7b80$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
AA4NC@aol.com wrote, in response to W4AN: "I feel lucky to even get a paper
certificate from a CQ contest!"
Yes I am a WPX RTTY Plaque sponsor! Having never been fortunate enough to
have won a plaque, obviously I haven't received one! I have received a few
certificates, and none of them were received in less than a year from the
particular contest! I'm more concerned with the omission of my log for 2001
WPX without any explanation or response from the contest manager? In almost
every contest, I read in the soapbox comments "how much fun was had"! While
I agree 100% with "if the awards are going to be advertised, they should be
provided", if y'all are in CQ sponsored contest(s) for the fun, why are
y'all concerned about the awards? There are far too many reasons as to the
delay or non-receipt of advertised contest award(s), but, IMHO, the primary
reason is "too much for too few with too little"! From what little I know
about the CQ award(s) program, it is a "bureaucratic nightmare", of which I
want no part of! Maybe the time has come for CQ to "fess up" and admit that
they will no longer provide ANY contest(s) awards? After all, "don't we
enter just for the fun of it"?
C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
>From n4zr at contesting.com Thu Apr 18 07:42:03 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r off the shelf?
In-Reply-To: <200204171312.JAA25908@johnpaul.btv.ibm.com>
References: <00ce01c1e512$81602b60$014748d9@home>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020418063801.05e60ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 09:12 AM 4/17/02 -0400, Ron wrote:
> >>>"Tadej Mezek, S51TA" said:
> >
> > HI!
> >
> > I am familiar with sbdvp on TR, but when you transmit the voice card is not
> > put out the microphone, you should build a switch with relay or so, and the
> > audio is not 100% ok from my experience...
>
>This is sound card dependent. I run my heil into my soundcard whose output
>goes right to the radio. I run SBDVP with TR and I can record messages on the
>fly...truly a wonderful thing. The mic however is not muted on TX of a
>recorded message.
>
>Who knows...there just may be improvements in the future.
On at least some soundcards, full-duplex operation (whereby the microphone
audio is live when the sound card is running under SBDVP) is set up on the
Device Manager. That's where I enabled it on my SB-16.
The documentation for SBDVP, while full and technically correct, is not
very well organized to guide the user in setting it up and using it with
TR. If there is interest, I'll write up a brief "getting started"
supplement and post it on the web.
73, Pete N4ZR
>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 18 06:30:31 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
Message-ID:
<20020418053032.24594.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Wed, 17 April 2002, "Tonno Vahk" wrote
>
> As far as UBNs were mentioned I might say that I
noticed quite a few -B
> calls in our ES9C M/M UBN report that were actually
absolutely fine and
> existing calls and had been worked by many stations -
30, 40, or even more.
Just because 30 or 40 people copied the same call,
doesn't mean it's the "right" call. I've listened in
awe to some stations giving their callsigns with the
same (often highly-accented) phonetics over and over.
When pressed about a specific letter, they clarify with
different phonetics that reveal a different callsign.
In fact, several times a contest I find myself calling
a station, getting told by him that I'm a dupe, then
hear the station use a different set of phonetics that
changes his call. (This happens with spotted calls a
LOT.)
-Mike N2MG
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>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Thu Apr 18 18:05:05 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
References:
<20020418053032.24594.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <018f01c1e6e2$0af65e00$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Yes, of course, I am not 100% sure that those calls were actually right and
I completly agree with you. I am just wondering based on what were they
determined BAD as there was no WN and the call is issued and active
according to all callbooks and databases and he did not submit the log.
73
Tonno
ES5TV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
> On Wed, 17 April 2002, "Tonno Vahk" wrote
>
> >
> > As far as UBNs were mentioned I might say that I
> noticed quite a few -B
> > calls in our ES9C M/M UBN report that were actually
> absolutely fine and
> > existing calls and had been worked by many stations -
> 30, 40, or even more.
>
> Just because 30 or 40 people copied the same call,
> doesn't mean it's the "right" call. I've listened in
> awe to some stations giving their callsigns with the
> same (often highly-accented) phonetics over and over.
> When pressed about a specific letter, they clarify with
> different phonetics that reveal a different callsign.
>
> In fact, several times a contest I find myself calling
> a station, getting told by him that I'm a dupe, then
> hear the station use a different set of phonetics that
> changes his call. (This happens with spotted calls a
> LOT.)
>
>
> -Mike N2MG
>
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>From wally at el-soft.com Thu Apr 18 19:21:49 2002
From: wally@el-soft.com (Valeri Stefanov)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] BADs in UBN
Message-ID: <004701c1e6f5$27947020$cd1038d4@wally>
Same observed here at LZ8T as with ES9C.
OK1KH is an existing station and I work him regularily in contests. He has
quite potent signal on top band so mistake is in fact difficult to be made.
Another example is a QSO with S50S, too.
Nobody is perfect !
73's de Wally LZ2CJ & LZ8T & YM3LZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 18 09:25:27 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 18Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204181525.g3IFPR522298@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 18Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530
WX5S(@W6YX) 4553 1078 48 10,743,348 NCCC
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
NT6K 2254 845 48 4,173,455 NCCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
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WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
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N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
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N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
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AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
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KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
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N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
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W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
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KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K6LRN 333 255 208,640 NCCC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
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N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
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USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
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KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
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K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
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W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
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WD5FLK
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DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
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HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
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LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
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OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
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WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
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W6OAT,WX5S
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 18 09:27:42 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
18Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204181527.g3IFRgL22307@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 18Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA M/M HP
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
VE7SCC 2120 0 48 4,406,904 Coquitlam Amateur Ra
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SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
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D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
P40V 6610 1251 48 25,617,978 NCCC
3V8BB 5868 1238 48 23,900,828 YU CC
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCF
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
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UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
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ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
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Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
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F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
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Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
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YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
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M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
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T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCF
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 542 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
VE5SF 628 366 9 543,510
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCF
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCF
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
YT1RA 1227 588 36 1,535,268 YU CC
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCF
YT9X(YZ1KA) 1346 629 36 1,697,042 YU CC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 18 09:48:00 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 JIDX and EU Sprint Summaries 18Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020418084413.00aab500@pop3.eskimo.com>
Combined 2002 JIDX and EU Sprint Summaries 18Apr2002
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: jidx-hfcw@ne.nal.go.jp
Mail logs to:
JIDX HFCW Contest
c/o Five-Nine Magazine
PO Box 59
Kamata, Tokyo 144
Japan
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
GM4YXI 520 127 14 82,931 North of Scotland Co
AE0Q(@K0HM) 452 115 64,400 Grand Mesa
N0AC(@N0NI) 427 110 30 54,780
OH1F(OH1NOA) 326 100 12 36,100 CCF
N2ED 255 96 7 29,184 FRC
K3WW 224 81 6 21,060 FRC
N6ZZ 192 82 20,910 SCCC
N9RV 161 70 3 15,190 SMC
VE7FO 120 70 9 10,780
N4GG 43 34 4 1,972 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
HB9ARF 259 106 37,630
WN6K 238 88 21 30,008 SCCC
SV1CIB 109 66 9,174
VE3BUC 86 47 4 4,042
WA6BOB 35 33 2 1,155
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/10 LP
OM5AW 466 44 10 20,504
NT6K 127 41 4 10,414 NCCC
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 18Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
9A7P(9A6XX) 126 3 126 WWYC
EI/G4BUO 32 1 32
>From K1AR at aol.com Thu Apr 18 12:54:49 2002
From: K1AR@aol.com (K1AR@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plaque-gate
Message-ID: <17f.6fe1404.29f04649@aol.com>
As the guy responsible for CQ WW trophies, I can only comment on my part of
this puzzle. N8BJQ will need to respond to the WPX issues.
As for the CQ WW, we are essentially caught up. The last batch of 2000
trophies are at the engraver awaiting completion and shipment. As soon as I
have the final results for last year's contest, I will be moving forward
immediately to produce them. So, we're actually in reasonable shape.
The issue with the KH7R M/M combined awards is that they are funded and
produced locally by the boys at Alpha/Ehrhorn. I've obviously assumed
erroneously that this was happening and will fix it immediately. I'm sure
that with the business transition there, this is one thing that fell through
the cracks.
If there are other problems with CQWW trophies in particular, I am not aware
of them and encourage you to bring them to my attention.
Please accept my apology for any problems.
73 John, K1AR
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Thu Apr 18 13:32:17 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
<004301c1e6c4$665c7b80$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
Message-ID: <007901c1e6f6$9b4ad300$ab2745cf@default>
I can only speak for the CQ 160 Contests but I do know getting out
certificates and plaques is a chore.
I have some help and the results are mixed. Plaque Sponsors won't pay up or
quit amateur radio or even become SK. If I have problems with the CQ 160
Contests I know the WPX and WW must struggle. There is no national
association with paid workers to get out plaques and certificates and I
always ask the question Why do sponsors pay for these plaques and often not
for volunteer run contests such as CQ.
Now as to K4WW's complaint about being left out of the results with no
comments...this happens due to too much reliance on computer checking. I
have lost logs due to one log overlaying another and several that
disappeared. I have a check in log that allows me to provide claimed
scores and then I move the logs to a final file that is updated when the
checking is done. There are bugs in the best log checking programs (I
debugged 5 in the CQ 160 cabrillo checking software last year). I
personally check the top logs for missed errors and possible corrections. I
also check major logs if the score changes (lowers usually) by more than 3%.
I also make all decisions about DQ (usually too many unverified QSOs). I
feel sorry for K4WW as I know contest efforts deserve better. But this is
my reasoning and even in 1400 entries I still get a few lost, missed, wrong
location, wrong classification.
The WW and WPX with 6 to 10,000 entries are much more difficult and we need
the computer to help us do a better job of assuring the scores are correct
the real winners identified!
73 Dave K4JRB
> Yes I am a WPX RTTY Plaque sponsor! Having never been fortunate enough to
> have won a plaque, obviously I haven't received one! I have received a few
> certificates, and none of them were received in less than a year from the
> particular contest! I'm more concerned with the omission of my log for
2001
> WPX without any explanation or response from the contest manager? In
almost
> every contest, I read in the soapbox comments "how much fun was had"!
While
> I agree 100% with "if the awards are going to be advertised, they should
be
> provided", if y'all are in CQ sponsored contest(s) for the fun, why are
> y'all concerned about the awards? There are far too many reasons as to the
> delay or non-receipt of advertised contest award(s), but, IMHO, the
primary
> reason is "too much for too few with too little"! From what little I know
> about the CQ award(s) program, it is a "bureaucratic nightmare", of which
I
> want no part of! Maybe the time has come for CQ to "fess up" and admit
that
> they will no longer provide ANY contest(s) awards? After all, "don't we
> enter just for the fun of it"?
> C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From i4ufh at libero.it Thu Apr 18 21:29:48 2002
From: i4ufh@libero.it (Fabio I4UFH)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
References: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00ca01c1e707$05b2b630$c293623e@i4ufh>
Still Waiting IQ4T CQWW SSB 1997 1st EU SO 15 , IJ4R WPX 1991 MS 1st EU
73 Fabio I4UFH
----- Original Message -----
From: <AA4NC@aol.com>
To: ""Bill Fisher, W4AN"" <w4an@contesting.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
> Bill,
>
> Don't feel like the lone ranger. I have given up waiting for CQ magazine
contest plaques that never arrived dating back to 1984! Some of these were
multiop plaques that I paid for to get copies for myself and other
operators.
>
> I feel lucky to even get a paper certificate from a CQ contest! Most of
these also seem to get lost in the same black hole with the plaques. I guess
they figure that most people are too busy calculating UBN statistics to
notice that they never get their "awards" for CQ contests.
>
> We just have to look at N1ND and crew at ARRL to see how it SHOULD be
done!
>
> 73,
>
> Will
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From ab0mv at ix.netcom.com Thu Apr 18 14:03:16 2002
From: ab0mv@ix.netcom.com (Merrimon Crawford Pladsen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ certificates
In-Reply-To: <007901c1e6f6$9b4ad300$ab2745cf@default>
References: <193AE5D0.5214237A.0000C54B@aol.com>
<004301c1e6c4$665c7b80$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
Message-ID: <E16yHCR-0002by-00@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net>
I know people still waiting for certificates/plaques from 1999 CQ contests.
4 years is too long. Those responsible will not respond to repeated
questions via email or snail mail. Even a simple response that those
responsible & CQ contest committee are aware of the delay and are trying to
do something about it would be better than refusing any response to
certificate/plaque winners!
73
Merri AB0MV
>From jsschuster at snet.net Thu Apr 18 19:23:58 2002
From: jsschuster@snet.net (jsschuster)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Bed available...Visalia
Message-ID: <3CBF0F3E.B5F3AFD6@snet.net>
I have an extra bed in my Holiday Inn room if anyone would like to
share costs. JACK w1wef@arrl.net
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Apr 18 20:39:24 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST QST de K4FCG K4FCG - New Catagories! - New Plaques!
Message-ID: <021501c1e732$460fb4a0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
New for this year's Florida QSO Party - which is now only 9 days away - will
be a
SWL Category
And we have added a new plaque to the awards program (tnx K4RX):
Top Single-Op Mobile CW-Only
There are alot of opportunites to receive beautiful FQP certificates and a
very extensive plaque program...
If you haven't done so yet - go to the FQP website - there are the records -
the results - and EVERYTHING you wanna know about the hottest QSO Party in
April - The FQP! Click on:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
Florida hams are asked to please register with NS4W as soon as possible -
(see the county activation page and click on his call) wiht YOUR county
activation plans....this is a big help for guys looking to complete their
Florida Counties for CHC and also an aid to the competitors as far as
knowing who will be going to which county, we try to activate every county
with more than one ham - even if that means multiple mobile teams...by the
way their tentative routes are also on there!
Its CW, its SSB and its 10 - 40 meters on both Saturday and Sunday....did I
mention that it is only
9 Days Until FQP 2K2?
Join the PARTY, the Florida QSO Party!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Apr 18 21:07:08 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FLASH THIS JUST IN Re: QST QST de K4FCG K4FCG - New
Catagories! - New Plaques!
Message-ID: <026c01c1e736$25a97f80$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
This just in to FQP central
STOP THE PRESSES!
Yet another catagory has been added to the FQP Plaque program...
Thanks to sponosrship by N4PN we now have a new catagory for the FQP plaque
program...
Top Multi-Op Mobile CW
(can anyone do battle with K1TO and N4TO?)
The FQP keeps growing - find out why on Aptil 27 and 28 - last years logs
received reporteed
28,978 QSOs
were made in the 2,001 Florida QSO Party.....
K4OJ
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:39 PM
Subject: QST QST de K4FCG K4FCG - New Catagories! - New Plaques!
> New for this year's Florida QSO Party - which is now only 9 days away -
will
> be a
>
> SWL Category
>
>
> And we have added a new plaque to the awards program (tnx K4RX):
>
> Top Single-Op Mobile CW-Only
>
>
> There are alot of opportunites to receive beautiful FQP certificates and a
> very extensive plaque program...
>
> If you haven't done so yet - go to the FQP website - there are the
records -
> the results - and EVERYTHING you wanna know about the hottest QSO Party in
> April - The FQP! Click on:
>
> http://www.qsl.net/fqp
>
> Florida hams are asked to please register with NS4W as soon as possible -
> (see the county activation page and click on his call) wiht YOUR county
> activation plans....this is a big help for guys looking to complete their
> Florida Counties for CHC and also an aid to the competitors as far as
> knowing who will be going to which county, we try to activate every county
> with more than one ham - even if that means multiple mobile teams...by the
> way their tentative routes are also on there!
>
> Its CW, its SSB and its 10 - 40 meters on both Saturday and Sunday....did
I
> mention that it is only
>
> 9 Days Until FQP 2K2?
>
> Join the PARTY, the Florida QSO Party!
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, K4OJ
>
> http://www.qsl.net/fqp
>
>
>
>
>From k1ir at designet.com Thu Apr 18 22:25:47 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Welcome K7BV!
Message-ID: <km1zbcrga22vroi.180420022125@designet-jsi>
Fellow contesters,
With thoughts of contest coverage, Logbook of the World, World Amateur Radio
Day [what's that?] and a variety of other subjects weighing heavily on my mind,
I decided to dial up our new ARRL Sales and Marketing man - Dennis
Motschenbacher, K7BV - just to exchange some ideas. We had a great
conversation, and I wanted to let you all know that I see his involvement as a
really positive development. Take a look at the note he sent along following
our conversation.
Welcome and GL, Dennis!
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
FROM: "Motschenbacher, Dennis K7BV" <k7bv@arrl.org>
TO: 'Jim Idelson' <k1ir@designet.com>
DATE: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:13:19 -0400
RE: RE: re[2]: Want to talk?
Jim,
Thanks for the call today. Although, I have only been working at the League
for a little over two weeks, I am already deeply grateful that there are
enthusiastic hams like you who care enough about our hobby to pick up the
telephone and express their well thought out concerns about our hobby with
me. I appreciate you giving me a chance to listen to you, trusting that I
was indeed doing exactly that - listening to you.
Now that I am working inside the walls at the ARRL, I find myself stunned by
the number of different topics that are being dealt with by the staff. Today
I still feel overwhelmed as I rush from office to office, absorbing history,
goals, and activity details for the incredibly diverse spectrum of interests
within amateur radio. It very clear to me that this Sales & Marketing
Manager job will put me in close touch with virtually every department in
the League.
I am making it my personal goal to insure that I work to maintain an open
and accommodating relationship with everyone here and, equally as important,
with the people we serve. I do feel some comfort knowing I do not need to
have all the answers but instead can draw on the vast resource of our
talented membership. I made note of the great marketing ideas you shared
with me and I will make sure the Marketing Team I am in the process of forming
gives them a good round of out-of-the-box discussion
Again, thanks for your call that reinforced this core belief of mine that I
am here to "develop" efforts that bring in additional members and revenues -
people like you will insure that I have an endless list of ideas to develop.
Although I know for sure that I will not be able to please everyone, I
promise you I will never use that as an excuse for not trying.
So...back to reeeally important matters - tell me again what the YCCC
signing bonus is?
73, Dennis Motschenbacher K7BV/1
ARRL Sales & Marketing Manager
860.594.0412
>From jdup at jdupree.com Thu Apr 18 23:03:14 2002
From: jdup@jdupree.com (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #1
Message-ID: <009301c1e746$70c1f190$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Contesters:
This post begins a review of spots from the 2002 WPX SSB contest.
I started looking at spots earlier this year, after the ARRL DX
contests, when I noticed that someone had spotted under my call.
Reviewing the WPX spots, there are patterns, especially from
spots made via IRC/DX Summit.
In the WPX contest, 248 US calls made close to 450 spots via
IRC/DX Summit. 27 of those US calls making spots, or
10.8%, were by inactive calls.
Only a handful of other US inactives were found in thousands
of spots from other nodes and clusters.
DX inactives were much more difficult to determine, because
of conflicting information on the web. I have tried to
err on the side of caution when dealing with those numbers.
Basically the data presented here will show the number of
"unique" spotters - that is, calls that made only one spot
during the contest (and often had never spotted before.)
Along with unique calls, there are calls that are inactive.
Those calls aren't being busted and spotted, but rather the
inactive calls are doing the spotting.
Also, there are spots from calls which never use IRC/DX Summit
to make spots - but for some reason used that to make
a spot of one of these stations.
Sometimes, patterns quickly emerge - such as a string of
spots of the same station on the exact same frequency.
Also, certain letter combinations become obvious because
of their placement on the keyboard. Look for spotting
stations with strings like FGH, GTY, GTF, DRF, HYG and
combinations like that.
This data will not "prove" that a certain station has faked
spots - the spot data will speak for itself and should be
interpreted by everyone on their own. I don't make any
contest rules, nor do I enforce any. This is just what I found.
These spots could be legit, they could be done by a friend, or
even a foe of the station being spotted - all with or without
that station's knowledge.
I do hope people will take the time to calmly evaluate
the data and then draw their own conclusions.
All times are in GMT.
Jamie NS3T
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:03:59 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #2
Message-ID: <009901c1e746$8b2ddc10$0000a398@COMPUTER>
US Inactives-WPX
This is a list of the inactive US calls which made spots in
the 2002 WPX SSB. The calls were checked with both Buckmaster
and the WM7D.net databases.
All of these spots originated from IRC/DX Summit except
for the spots of PY2NDX, which were spotted via a
node in Europe.
The inactive call of the spotter is first, followed by the
call of the station being spotted:
AG6TR (RS0F)
K2FGY (OH1F)
K3IUP (OH1F)
K3SK (RS0F)
K4JHV (UA9YAB)
K5UIP (PY2NDX)
K6LTX (RA0FU)
K8AQW (OH1F)
K8DGH (EA3ELZ)
K8IJL (ER6A)
K9APM (LT1A & LT1F)
KA4OWW (CQ1P)
KB5RT (AL1G)
KD7RDG (PY2NDX)
KF6SAK (PY2NDX)
KM4RT (EA3ELZ)
N4GHY (SV1SL)
W0JIG (NP2N/AG0)
W4RFC (UA9YAB)
W6JGH (TG9AJR)
W6JUD (WP3C)
W7UAS (UA9YAB)
W8GYT (SV1SL)
W8JGX (UA9YAB)
W8NNB (TG9AJR)
W9RSK (RS0F)
WA4DSF (TG9AJR)
WB3ERH (PY2NDX)
WB6WER (OH0V)
WB8ETG (EA3ELZ)
WB8FHG (TG9AJR)
WB8JFH (TG9AJR)
MORE
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:05:10 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #3
Message-ID: <00ac01c1e746$b5bffdf0$0000a398@COMPUTER>
The first example from the 2002 WPX SSB is LV7H.
During the contest, there were 54 spots of LV7H.
34 of those came from DX Summit.
Of those 34 spots, 27 of the spotting calls were
unique - meaning that station only spotted LV7H
during the contest. In fact, only two of these uniques
had previous spots on record.
As many as 18 of those 27 uniques were also inactive
calls, depending on the source (Buckmaster, etc.)
There were no inactive US calls found.
K3DZ 14155 LV7H Sun Mar 31 22:44:00 2002
OH2TR 28667 LV7H Sun Mar 31 18:48:00 2002
4Z5LJ 28544 LV7H Sun Mar 31 17:45:00 2002
IZ3ETV 28515 LV7H Sun Mar 31 15:25:00 2002
ES7DR 28597 LV7H Sun Mar 31 14:29:00 2002
ZS6IR 28530 LV7H Sun Mar 31 13:56:00 2002
F5FTR 28665 LV7H Sun Mar 31 13:14:00 2002
DL5GHY 28566 LV7H Sun Mar 31 12:39:00 2002
SP7FGT 28463 LV7H Sun Mar 31 12:14:00 2002
JA5GDT 21277 LV7H Sun Mar 31 02:25:00 2002
UT1AS 14234.5 LV7H Sun Mar 31 01:29:00 2002
JA5GDT 21277 LV7H Sun Mar 31 02:25:00 2002
UT1AS 14234.5 LV7H Sun Mar 31 01:29:00 2002
IK5DFT 21204 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 19:29:00 2002
ZS5DRF 28553.5 LV7H Sat Mar 30 18:37:00 2002
PY2FYS 28689 LV7H Sat Mar 30 17:11:00 2002
UR5TD 28553 LV7H Sat Mar 30 16:05:00 2002
OH7GH 28429 LV7H Sat Mar 30 12:19:00 2002
OM7M 28485 LV7H Sat Mar 30 12:17:00 2002
EA4DLE 28422 LV7H Sat Mar 30 11:46:00 2002
DL1ERK 28575 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 11:13:00 2002
SP6GTY 28534 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 10:53:00 2002
DL3FTN 14157 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 06:55:00 2002
EA3ARL 14338 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 06:25:00 2002
JF2ERD 21266 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 05:09:00 2002
JA7DHE 28537 LV7H WPX Sat Mar 30 04:40:00 2002
JA1FDE 21218.5 LV7H CONTET VIA LU7HF Sat Mar 30 01:51
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
In the WPX, there were 17 spots of TG9AJR. A dozen of
those spots were via IRC/DX Summit. Those 12 spots
also produced 12 unique calls. Every one of these
calls has no spots on record other than TG9AJR.
VE4TBD 14142 TG9AJR Sun Mar 31 23:56 2002
WA6DVC 21413 TG9AJR Sun Mar 31 23:43 2002
W6JGH 28306 TG9AJR Sun Mar 31 23:15 2002
WA4DSF 28306 TG9AJR Test Sun Mar 31 23:08 2002
HA3SDF 21185 TG9AJR Sun Mar 31 06:36 2002
WB8FHG 21436 TG9AJR Sat Mar 30 18:49 2002
W8NNB 28707 TG9AJR Test Sat Mar 30 14:44 2002
KC0ADF 28707 TG9AJR Sat Mar 30 14:34 2002
EA3FVB 28707 TG9AJR Sat Mar 30 14:19 2002
WB8JFH 28707 TG9AJR Sat Mar 30 14:02 2002
VE3DFG 28689 TG9AJR Test Sat Mar 30 13:49 2002
LU7FHG 21210 TG9AJR CQ CONTEST WPX Sat Mar 30 06:19 2002
At least six of those calls are inactive.
They include: VE4TBD, W6JGH, WA4DSF, WB8FHG, W8NNB and WB8JFH.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
In the WPX, there were 80 spots of RS0F. Of those, 59 spots
came via IRC/DX Summit. 33 of those 59 calls were uniques -
meaning that station only spotted RS0F during the contest.
For all but two calls, this is the only spot listed
on record by this call.
10-14 of those unique calls were also inactive, depending
on the source (Buckmaster, etc.) Two of those inactive
calls were from the US: AG6TR and W6NHS.
Here are the uniques for RS0F:
KS6T 21370.8 RS0F Sun Mar 31 23:51:00 2002
AD6KA 21370.8 RS0F Sun Mar 31 23:44:00 2002
K3SK 21387 RS0F Sun Mar 31 12:20:00 2002
UT7EE 21387 RS0F Sun Mar 31 12:16:00 2002
9A8M 21387 RS0F Sun Mar 31 12:03:00 2002
G4RDG 21386.9 RS0F Sun Mar 31 12:00:00 2002
JA8DLC 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:52:00 2002
UA9AN 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:43:00 2002
VK4WPX 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:37:00 2002
ON4CSA 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:16:00 2002
ON4CAZ 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 11:09:00 2002
IZ3WWY 21387 RS0F rusia spase station! Sun Mar 31 10:55
HA1SN 21387.5 RS0F Sun Mar 31 10:53:00 2002
YB0DPI 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 09:32:00 2002
OE5RU 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 09:27:00 2002
DL7YD 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 09:18:00 2002
G4RDF 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 08:51:00 2002
DL1GN 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 08:44:00 2002
OK1KMS 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 08:41:00 2002
LZ5Z 21383.3 RS0F Sun Mar 31 08:22:00 2002
VE7AVV 21220 RS0F Sun Mar 31 04:43:00 2002
L20E 21220 RS0F Sun Mar 31 04:33:00 2002
K6HRU 21268 RS0F Sun Mar 31 03:43:00 2002
NA7Z 21268 RS0F Sun Mar 31 03:37:00 2002
K7TR 21268 RS0F Sun Mar 31 03:19:00 2002
KR5D 21268 RS0F Sun Mar 31 03:09:00 2002
AG6TR 21304.7 RS0F Sun Mar 31 02:22:00 2002
N2UVR 21304.7 RS0F Sun Mar 31 01:47:00 2002
NA0U 21448.8 RS0F Sun Mar 31 00:07:00 2002
W6NHS 21448.9 RS0F Sun Mar 31 00:00:00 2002
W9RSK 21325 RS0F Sat Mar 30 23:44:00 2002
W6RS 21325 RS0F Sat Mar 30 23:22:00 2002
SP3FR 21415.8 RS0F Sat Mar 30 12:02:00 2002
12 other stations spotted RS0F with their only IRC/
DX Summit spot of the contest - while using a different
node for other WPX spots:
W2GG, AA3B, W3AS, RM6A, DL8AAM, SK6DZ, RL3A, DL2HX,
UA6LGR, YU1RE, RK9CZO and JA5WNH.
MORE
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:06:03 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #4
Message-ID: <00b101c1e746$d53100d0$0000a398@COMPUTER>
The next example, PY2NDX is different from all of the others
presented here. There were 51 WPX spots of PY2NDX.
32 of those spots were made thru a node in Spain.
Of the 28 stations that spotted thru that node, 23 of the
calls were uniques, meaning that they only spotted
PY2NDX during the contest. For many, this is their only
spot on record.
Of those 23 uniques, at least 11 of the calls are inactive.
The US inactives include: WB3ERH, W8TGP, K5UIP and KD7RDG.
Here is the list of unique spotters:
KF4RGB 21349.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 23:58
K9JU 21349.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 23:50:
K9JU 28508.1 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 23:09:
K9JU 21406.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 22:27
UA4JV 14133.8 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 21:48
PA3ERT 14211.3 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 21:08
M0FTY 21327.4 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 19:30
DF4RG 21353.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 19:10
SP4JL 28540 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 18:55
OK1ASG 28673 PY2NDX cq wpx Sun Mar 31 15:11
JA1GIO 21318 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 02:06
JA1DVF 21317.8 PY2NDX wpx Sun Mar 31 01:22
WB3ERH 21317 PY2NDX wpx Sun Mar 31 00:48
W8TGP 28562.5 PY2NDX Sun Mar 31 00:29
K5UIP 28562.5 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 23:52
W9TY 28562.5 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 22:17
DL2JIK 21306.5 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 21:30
W3FG 28331.8 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 20:44
KF9RF 28331.8 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 20:35
KF6SAK 28532 PY2NDX cq wpx Sat Mar 30 19:42
EA4HJE 28559 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 17:13
K4VB 28653.8 PY2NDX wpx Sat Mar 30 14:40
IK2WDH 28650 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 11:09
JA3ESJ 14176 PY2NDX wpx Sat Mar 30 09:49
KD7RDG 14188 PY2NDX Sat Mar 30 05:55
Again, all of these spots of PY2NDX were made thru a node
in Spain. That same node is regularly used for spotting by
PY2NDX during non-contest periods. A similar pattern
was observed during the ARRL DX SSB contest.
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
JT1BV
In the WPX SSB, there were 22 spots of JT1BV.
16 of those 22 spots were via IRC/DX Summit.
Those produced 15 "unique" calls:
EA1TI 28480 JT1BV Sun Mar 31 04:50:00 2002
JA1WQL 28525 JT1BV Sun Mar 31 03:30:00 2002
JH5HDA 28485 JT1BV Sun Mar 31 03:21:00 2002
DS2AHI 28485 JT1BV cq Sun Mar 31 03:09:00 2002
JA3ULR 28485 JT1BV test Sun Mar 31 02:50:00 2002
UQ1D 28510 JT1BV Mongolia Sun Mar 31 02:42
EA1WYF 28545 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 09:41:00 2002
IK5VHU 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 08:34:00 2002
RA3SA 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 08:22:00 2002
9A5ST 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 07:44:00 2002
DL1BBR 28400 JT1BV naran u get qsl 0n 40m 4 Sat Mar 30 07:10
YT7TY 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 06:41:00 2002
RZ6BU 28690 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 06:32:00 2002
KC7UP 28605 JT1BV Sat Mar 30 02:58:00 2002
WA6AQQ 28605 JT1BV cq contest! Sat Mar 30 02:49:00
For what it's worth, there were five self-spots for JT1BV as well:
JT1BV 28480.0 JT1BV contest 0205 30 Mar 2002
JT1BV 28485.0 JT1BV 0314 30 Mar 2002
JT1BV 28685.0 JT1BV cq contest!0621 30 Mar 2002
JT1BV 28495.0 JT1BV 0701 30 Mar 2002
JT1BV 28690.0 JT1BV 0733 30 Mar 2002
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
YL7C
In the WPX SSB contest, there were 27 spots of YL7C.
14 stations made 21 spots of YL7C via IRC/DX Summit.
Of those 14 calls, 13 were uniques (several had multiple
spots of YL7C.) As many as 9 of the DX calls could
be inactive.
K6CAL 14238.6 YL7C WPX Sun Mar 31 18:30
W7CZ 14238.6 YL7C WPX Sun Mar 31 18:18
K6CAL 14238.6 YL7C cq Sun Mar 31 17:47
KE4HW 21297.5 YL7C WPX Sun Mar 31 15:12
K7GE 21240 YL7C Sun Mar 31 17:15
PA3KD 14166.3 YL7C LOUD Sun Mar 31 08:55
JA7MMI 28587.7 YL7C Sun Mar 31 08:03
JA5MWE 28537.7 YL7C Sun Mar 31 07:08
K7GE 14164.5 YL7C WPX Sun Mar 31 04:30
YB8QY 14219.9 YL7C LOUD Sat Mar 30 19:11
KE4HW 14243.8 YL7C Sat Mar 30 18:27:
KE4HW 21425.3 YL7C Sat Mar 30 14:21
KE4HW 28564.6 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 12:52
XA2LA 21145.8 YL7C Sat Mar 30 11:27
JA5MWE 21302.6 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 10:35
JF5RJK 28655.8 YL7C Sat Mar 30 09:35
DS5REF 28590 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 09:24
JH6TRC 28590 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 09:02
JA7MMI 28385.6 YL7C LOUD Sat Mar 30 08:27
JA8BBN 28328.2 YL7C CQ Sat Mar 30 08:12:
MORE
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:06:43 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #5
Message-ID: <00b201c1e746$ed3d0250$0000a398@COMPUTER>
LT1F
During the WPX contest, there were over 130 spots of LT1F.
Of those, 55 spots came via mIRC - those will be the spots
that this data concerns.
Of those 55 spots via mIRC, 43 of the calls were unique -
meaning that station only spotted LT1F during the contest.
7-12 of these calls were also inactive, depending
on the source (Buckmaster, etc.)
The only US inactive was K9APM. The note from K9APM
is: "assisted category." These are the uniques:
JA5SUD 14223.5 LT1F booming signal Sun Mar 31 22:00
JA1EEG 28533.8 LT1F good signal in JA Sun Mar 31 21:56
PY5XT 3780 LT1F 59 wpx Sun Mar 31 21:48
K9APM 28555 LT1F assisted category Sun Mar 31 21:36
N5YE 28544.9 LT1F Sun Mar 31 20:38
WS0V 28544.9 LT1F Sun Mar 31 20:10
SM5DYC 21349.7 LT1F 59 wpx Sun Mar 31 20:07
DK9SD 28576 LT1F Sun Mar 31 19:56
W0AJU 21349.7 LT1F 59 Sun Mar 31 19:42
UN8GF 14300 LT1F good signal Sun Mar 31 19:39
PA0ATY 28576 LT1F 59==== Sun Mar 31 19:36
G3JJZ 21349.7 LT1F wpx very strong Sun Mar 31 19:13
LU1FAM 21375.8 LT1F Look for Us!!! :)) Sun Mar 31 18:02
IK2ULM 28657.5 LT1F Sun Mar 31 17:36
LU1FAM 28537.2 LT1F Sun Mar 31 16:53
HB9AWS 28632.9 LT1F few takers! Sun Mar 31 13:05
LY5W 28632.9 LT1F WEAK SIGNAL Sun Mar 31 12:52
UT6EE 21328.9 LT1F long path (lp wpx) Sun Mar 31 12:13
DL3DBY 28632.9 LT1F wpx very strong Sun Mar 31 12:09
JH4AS 14219.6 LT1F cq contest Sun Mar 31 09:15
DN8AF 14334 LT1F DX CONTEST Sun Mar 31 07:32
JR3LFP 21355 LT1F Sun Mar 31 06:55
EA3ACA 14334 LT1F Sun Mar 31 06:53:
VA7AM 7080.5 LT1F qsx 7269 Sun Mar 31 06:43
HC1OT 7048 LT1F qsx 7211 contest Sun Mar 31 05:25
W7KQZ 14321 LT1F contest Sun Mar 31 05:15
JA1KWB 28415 LT1F Sun Mar 31 04:21
W4QK 21355 LT1F Sun Mar 31 04:20
OH6XY 7051.2 LT1F Sun Mar 31 04:17
RU9AF 28414 LT1F cq cq Sun Mar 31 04:00
VP2YV 21355 LT1F contest Sun Mar 31 03:59:
JK1NOP 28415.4 LT1F WPX BOOMING SIGNAL Sun Mar 31 02:01
JA7NUR 21228.7 LT1F WPX / BIG SIGNAL Sun Mar 31 01:59
KK4TA 14290 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:58:
W1TRB 7056 LT1F qsx 7227 Sun Mar 31 00:51
JA4YHX 14200 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:41
N02A 28413.6 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:29
N2NI 21228.7 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:28
WS7V 3790 LT1F Sun Mar 31 00:27
SVGHF 14329 LT1F Sat Mar 30 23:32
K6AY 28438 LT1F Sat Mar 30 23:25
W9YK 28438.2 LT1F Sat Mar 30 23:21
LU9FHY 7050 LT1F Sat Mar 30 23:16
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
UA9YAB
During the WPX contest, there were 30 spots of UA9YAB.
Of those, 11 spots came via mIRC/DX Summit.
Of those 11 spots via mIRC, 9 of the calls were unique -
as many as seven of those uniques were also inactive calls,
depending on the source (Buckmaster, etc.)
The US inactives were:
W8JGX 28620 UA9YAB Sun Mar 31 13:25
W4RFC 28355 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 13:39
K4JHV 28355 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 13:07
W7UAS 28546.3 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 01:37
Here are the other uniques:
PY7TFZ 28620 UA9YAB Big in WPX Sun Mar 31 11:53
JK7SXM 28528 UA9YAB Sun Mar 31 03:44
JH1ACA 28440 UA9YAB Sun Mar 31 01:19
SP7YHC 28536.6 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 06:55
JH1ACA 28545 UA9YAB Sat Mar 30 01:06
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
UU7J
During the WPX contest, there were 62 spots of UU7J.
Of those, 30 spots came via mIRC/DX Summit.
Of those 30 spots, 19 of the calls were "unique" -
2-5 of those uniques were also inactive calls, depending
on the source (Buckmaster, etc.) There were no US inactives,
but the WA1Z spot would seem to be out of band.
Here are the uniques:
VE7VZ 14136 UU7J Sun Mar 31 23:47
WA1Z 14132 UU7J Sun Mar 31 22:50
M3JAG 14169.2 UU7J Sun Mar 31 21:30
CT1GFK 14169.2 UU7J Sun Mar 31 19:13
WA2AGE 14170 UU7J loud Sun Mar 31 17:24:
JE0EHE 14170 UU7J Sun Mar 31 16:42
EU3AR 14170 UU7J Sun Mar 31 14:21
DL1EF 14170 UU7J wpx Sun Mar 31 13:31
W1TE 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 13:00
DK4ZZ 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 12:32
OZ5RM 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 10:26
RW4HB 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 10:11
OK2BJK 14187 UU7J Sun Mar 31 07:35
WN6R 14212 UU7J wpx loud Sun Mar 31 00:45
ON7CC 14187 UU7J Sat Mar 30 20:24
G0TTM 14187 UU7J Sat Mar 30 20:15
IZ5ENH 14187.1 UU7J wpx Sat Mar 30 19:22
UA9ACE 14192.9 UU7J Sat Mar 30 14:10
SM7CQY 14193 UU7J Sat Mar 30 13:24
SM7CQY 14207.5 UU7J Sat Mar 30 08:45
MORE
>From ns3t at arrl.net Thu Apr 18 23:07:32 2002
From: ns3t@arrl.net (Jamie Dupree)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #6
Message-ID: <00b501c1e747$09ec4d20$0000a398@COMPUTER>
RA0FU
There were 17 spots of RA0FU during the WPX SSB contest.
Of those 17, 8 spots were via IRC/DX Summit.
Those eight calls produced eight unique spots and
as many as six inactive calls, including K6LTX.
K6LTX 28512.2 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 23:35:00 2002
F6GPJ 28612.6 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 10:40:00 2002
SP3AK 28613 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 10:21:00 2002
OK1DFA 28575.7 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 09:33:00 2002
DL4OCG 28575 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 09:07:00 2002
OE3DFG 28575 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 08:33:00 2002
EA5GF 28348.2 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 08:06:00 2002
LY3GA 28514 RA0FU Sat Mar 30 07:35:00 2002
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
RD4M
During the WPX contest, there were 36 spots of RD4M.
Of those, 24 spots came via mIRC/DX Summit.
Of those 24 spots via mIRC, 7 of the calls were unique -
3-6 of those uniques were also inactive calls, depending
on the source (Buckmaster, etc.)
There were no inactive US calls found in these spots.
The uniques are as follows:
DL3WQ 7080.9 RD4M Sun Mar 31 23:48:00 2002
F6HYY 7033.3 RD4M Sun Mar 31 22:00:00 2002
DL1WAL 21320 RD4M Sun Mar 31 16:16:00 2002
JK1DLW 28532 RD4M Sun Mar 31 05:55:00 2002
NI2W 14197 RD4M Sun Mar 31 04:43:00 2002
DF2WE 21225.1 RD4M Sat Mar 30 16:13:00 2002
DN1ET 28552 RD4M Sat Mar 30 12:12:00 2002
Five other stations spotted RD4M with their only mIRC/DX Summit
spot of the entire contest:
RL3A, RZ3AZ, PA1BRZ, NR2D and RU4HP
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
5B4/R3CC
During the WPX contest, there were 80 spots of UA9YAB.
Of those, 14 spots came via mIRC/DX Summit.
Of those 14 spots via mIRC, 6 of the calls were unique -
Two of those uniques were also inactive calls, according
to Buckmaster. There were no US inactives.
Here are the uniques:
DL6DGI 3798.5 5B4/R3CC Sun Mar 31 20:47:00 2002
KB3BBJ 28527.7 5B4/R3CC Sun Mar 31 16:52:00 2002
JH6WNY 28522.3 5B4/R3CC Sun Mar 31 05:07:00 2002
JA3VXH 28516 5B4/R3CC wpx Sun Mar 31 04:57:00 2002
KC8QKF 21300 5B4/R3CC Sat Mar 30 01:51:00 2002
KC3SF 21300 5B4/R3CC Sat Mar 30 01:38:00 2002
N3FYW 21301.3 5B4/R3CC loud Sat Mar 30 01:15:00 2002
There were also these two spots from W1AAA:
W1AAA 21200 5B4/R3CC self spot on dxsummit Sat Mar 30 01:57
W1AAA 21205 5B4/R3CC using bogus calls Sat Mar 30 01:57
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
EA3ELZ
There were 10 spots of EA3ELZ in the WPX SSB. Four of those
spots were via IRC/DX Summit. All four were uniques:
WB8ETG 28731.4 EA3ELZ BIG SIG Sun Mar 31 16:35
K8DGH 28766 EA3ELZ BIG SIG Sun Mar 31 13:40
NO5R 14349.2 EA3ELZ WPX Sun Mar 31 03:35
KM4RT 14315.5 EA3ELZ Sat Mar 30 02:29
US callbook servers say that three of these calls are
not active: WB8ETG, K8DGH and KM4RT.
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
AN5OL
In the WPX, there were seven spots for AN5OL, all seven
were uniques. Note the similarity in the three G-calls.
G0PPF 28401 AN5OL Sun Mar 31 12:41:00 2002
US2IR 28549.5 AN5OL Sun Mar 31 07:25:00 2002
G0PPP 28390.9 AN5OL Sat Mar 30 11:38:00 2002
LY2AT 28390.8 AN5OL via EA5OL Sat Mar 30 11:02:00
G0PPP 21310 AN5OL test Sat Mar 30 10:40:00 2002
G0PPH 14285 AN5OL Sat Mar 30 08:23:00 2002
G0PPH 14288 AN5OL Sat Mar 30 07:32:00 2002
G0PPH is active - but it is unclear from web searches whether
G0PPP and G0PPF are as well. All of those spots were made
from a node in Spain. The other two spots were from mIRC/DX Summit.
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
WP3C
During the WPX contest, there were 47 spots of WP3C.
5 of those spots came via IRC/DX Summit - those five
stations were all uniques, only spotting WP3C.
Two of those calls are listed as inactive.
VE3RM 28666.6 WP3C Sun Mar 31 18:04:00 2002
I7RFG 28856 WP3C Via W3HNK Sun Mar 31 15:19:00 2002
KP4AH 28638.5 WP3C TEST Sun Mar 31 12:45:00 2002
W6JUD 21335.5 WP3C TEST Sun Mar 31 12:24:00 2002
NP3KI 7090 WP3C 7279.0 Sun Mar 31 11:19:00 2002
KP4AH 7091 WP3C 7199.0 Sat Mar 30 09:06:00 2002
NP3KI 7091 WP3C 7200.0 Sat Mar 30 08:30:00 2002
The inactive calls are W6JUD and I7RFG.
Also, there are two self-spots for WP3C from the WPX:
WP3C-WPX 28420.0 WP3C WPX KP42319 31 Mar 2002
WP3C 7087.5 WP3C 7288.0 KP40641 30 Mar 2002
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
RW3DU
In the WPX contest, there were 9 spots of RW3DU.
They included spots from eight unique calls:
JS6GIM 28462 RW3DU BIG Sun Mar 31 11:20:00 2002
F6KTL 21253.5 RW3DU BIG SIGNAL Sun Mar 31 06:53:00
OH2K 3730.2 RW3DU Sat Mar 30 19:40:00 2002
RK6BZ 3749 RW3DU CQ TEST Sat Mar 30 17:45:00 2002
EA7FVX 14305 RW3DU Sat Mar 30 17:03:00 2002
WS1A 21383.5 RW3DU Sat Mar 30 12:40:00 2002
NB1B 21245 RW3DU FB Sat Mar 30 12:32:00 2002
DL7FER 14256.5 RW3DU BIG SIGNAL Sat Mar 30 11:24:00
Seven of these spots were via IRC/DX Summit, only RK6BZ was not.
NB1B usually uses another node.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
NP2N/AG0
In the WPX, 10 stations made 17 spots of NP2N/AG0.
Two of the spots came from W0JIG, which is not an active call:
W0JIG 14270 NP2N/AG0 Sat Mar 30 14:27
W0JIG 14195.5 NP2N/AG0 LOUD IN CENTRAL IOWA Sat Mar 30 03:15
NP2N/AG0 was also spotted 7 times by W0ANZ.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
OH1F
There were 20 total spots of OH1F during the WPX contest.
Four of those spots came via IRC/DX Summit - three of
the calls were unique spotters:
K2FGY 213582 OH1F Sun Mar 31 16:04:00 2002
K3IUP 21379 OH1F Sat Mar 30 17:29:00 2002
K8AQW 21379 OH1F Sat Mar 30 17:04:00 2002
All three of these US calls are listed as inactive.
*********************************************
>From ki9a at aol.com Fri Apr 19 00:04:00 2002
From: ki9a@aol.com (ki9a@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
Message-ID: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
#2 & #3,"unique" spots, inactive calls, blah,blah,blah.
Is this really going to make or break contesting?
DO THE RULES STATE YOU NEED TO USE YOUR OWN CALL TO PUT *INTERNET*, yes,
INTERNET spots up??
This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not condone using "fake" calls for
spotting, but, I'm sure there are better things to talk about than this BS.
Again folks, you don't need to correctly ID on the internet spots, errr, maybe
they changed the rules? Maybe I will spot guys during the next contest using
the word MOE or CURLEY instead of my own call, I'm sure NS3T will drive himself
nuts trying to figure if MOE is still active? ;-)
73-Chuck KI9A
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Fri Apr 19 05:32:44 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
In-Reply-To: <200204190252.g3J2qj9F030858@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020419041415.00d41b00@pop.pacific.net.hk>
If dealing with the logs, putting together the results & getting out
certificates &
plaques is anything like QSLs, then I don't envy the lot of volunteers like
N8BJQ,
K4JRB, K3EST & Co, etc.
Sometimes I wonder how I include an SAE & IRC in my Cabrillo file in order to
help make getting the certificate back to me easier for these guys - or
what the
tag is for including a credit card number to pay for a plaque that the
original sponsor
may not have followed through with, or to pay for one if I may have
qualified for one
which had not been sponsored.
Sometimes I reckon there's simply more that the participants could be doing.
For example, what's a plaque cost - USD50? That's less per day than it costs
to leave my motor at the airport when I fly to 9M6 for the weekend, let alone
the plane ticket itself. Heck, I don't see much change out of USD50 driving
into town to collect QSLs from my PO box!
The certificates are often not such a big deal, as #1 HK is almost always a
given.
I do get a kick out of the ones that are endorsed as zone winner, #1 Asia, #5
world or the like... wish we could see more of that. Awards help fuel activity
in the event, IMHO. They are important, just like those pesky QSLs we get as
a result of operating in them.
I'm still shy of Real Contester status, so believe to date I've earned only
one Real
Contest plaque. It is for WPX, but I'm patient. Just like discussing
UBNs, these
guys are reasonable & I for one am willing to cut them some slack.
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From k8cc at comcast.net Fri Apr 19 02:05:08 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (Dave Pruett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Routes For MiQP Mobiles This Weekend
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020419004959.0098c5e0@mail.comcast.net>
One last reminder the 2002 Michigan QSO Party is this weekend, running from
16Z on Saturday to 04Z Sunday. Full rules are available on the MRRC web
site at http://www.mrrc.net.
A big part of the activity in state QSO parties comes from mobile stations
who roam the countryside activating rare or uncommon counties. MiQP is no
different and there will be ten full time mobile stations out this
weekend. Here are their callsigns and the counties they will activate:
AA8U:
Jackson, Ingham, Eaton, Calhoun, Barry, Allegan, Kent, Ottawa, Muskegon,
Newaygo, Montcalm, Ionia, Gratiot, Clinton
AF8A:
Saginaw, Gratiot, Montcalm, Mecosta, Isabella, Midland, Newaygo, Muskegon,
Osceola, Mason, Lake, Manistee, Clare, Glad, Bay, Genesee, Livingston,
Washtenaw, Monroe
K5OT:
Baraga, Houghton, Ontonogon, Gogebic, Iron, Dickenson, Menominee
K8CC:
Presque Isle, Alpena, Alcona, Iosco, Arenac, Bay, Saginaw, Tuscola, Huron,
Sanilac, St. Clair, Macomb, Lapeer, Genesee, Shiawassee, Ingham,
Livingston, Oakland, Wayne, Monroe, Lenawee, Washtenaw
K8IR:
Dickinson, Iron, Gogebic, Ontonagon, Houghton, Keweenaw, Baraga, Marquette,
Alger, Delta, Menominee
K8MR:
Bay, Arenac, Gladwin, Ogemaw, Roscommon, Crawford, Oscoda, Montmorency,
Otsego, Cheboygan, Emmet, Charlevoix, Antrim, Kalkaska, Grand
Traverse, Wexford, Missaukee, Osceola, Clare, Isabella, Gratiot, Clinton,
Ingham, Livingston, Washtenaw
KU8E:
Monroe, Lenawee, Hillsdale, Jackson, Branch, St Joseph, Cass, Berrien, Van
Buren, Kalamazoo, Calhoun, Barry, Eaton, Ingham, Livingston
N8FYL:
Route TBD
W1NN:
Ottawa, Allegan, Kent, Ionia, Barry, Eaton, Clinton, Shiawassee, Ingham,
Livingston, Oakland, Wayne, Washtenaw
W8UE:
Delta, Alger, Marquette, Schoolcraft, Luce, Chippewa, Mackinaw, Emmet,
Cheboygan, Otsego, Charlevoix, Antrim, Kalkaska, Grand Traverse, Leelenaw,
Benzie, Manistee, Mason, Lake, Newago, Oceana, Mecosta, Isabella, Midland
WT9U:
Route is TBD
GL and hope to see everyone this weekend.
73,
Dave/K8CC
>From 4n1fg at infosky.net Fri Apr 19 10:36:36 2002
From: 4n1fg@infosky.net (Sasha Milojevic - 4N1FG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] YUDX Contest
Message-ID: <004901c1e774$faef3d90$0c67fac3@sasha>
Hallo dear friends and contesters,
I would like to invite you to participate in YUDX Contest that will take
place on next weekend, April 20/21, Saturday 12:00 UTC - Sunday 12:00 UTC.
Complete rules and software you can find on http://yudx.net
73 de 4N1FG, Sasha
4n1fg@qsl.net
>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Fri Apr 19 12:38:06 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (Timo)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #6
References: <00b501c1e747$09ec4d20$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Message-ID: <002701c1e77d$875e0a60$a3c5f83e@tklimoff>
> OH1F
>
> There were 20 total spots of OH1F during the WPX contest.
> Four of those spots came via IRC/DX Summit - three of
> the calls were unique spotters:
>
> K2FGY 213582 OH1F Sun Mar 31 16:04:00 2002
> K3IUP 21379 OH1F Sat Mar 30 17:29:00 2002
> K8AQW 21379 OH1F Sat Mar 30 17:04:00 2002
>
> All three of these US calls are listed as inactive.
This is very interesting because a club station OH1F has no access to IRC/DX
Summit ( = no self spotting possible via this route). So the most interesting
question is: why on Earth someone spots us with most likely fake callsign but
not with his/her own call? (Maybe SWL?)
Timo OH1NOA
one of OH1F (ES9C in WPX)
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Fri Apr 19 12:25:16 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] so2r thanks
Message-ID: <000c01c1e794$e23a4450$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Thanks for all the comments on so2r equipment, there are of course too
many replies to respond to each one directly. Hopefully I will get to
read through them all and summarize here or on my web site shortly.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Fri Apr 19 09:08:58 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FW: nice work!
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEGGDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
-----Original Message-----
From: jljarvis [mailto:jljarvis@adelphia.net]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:08 AM
To: jdup@jdupree.com
Subject: nice work!
Jamie/NS3T,
Not very many guys have the capability to do the search/analysis
you did...and of those, few would take the time. Nice bit of work.
What this does is set a standard for the contest committees...if
they choose to go there....for the kind of analysis which is possible.
The only 'weak' spot in it is identifying calls which are 'active'...
and I would assume that contest committees would draw up on log
submissions as well as buckmaster, or other reporting services.
What your data makes abundantly clear, is that there is a relatively
high level of packet piracy going on. The potential is there for this
to increase.
This would seem to be difficult ground upon which to formulate
competitive policy. Want your chief rival DQ'd? Spot 'im!
For that matter...and this is another thread....want your chief rival's
rate to drop? Spot 'im!
Jim Jarvis, N2EA
>From robert.chandler at sympatico.ca Fri Apr 19 09:37:28 2002
From: robert.chandler@sympatico.ca (Bob Chandler, VE3SRE)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ONTARIO QSO PARTY - THIS WEEKEND!
Message-ID: <010201c1e79e$f762f070$f0b9fea9@CATDISH>
Hi!
The 6th Annual Ontario QSO Party takes place this
weekend April 20-21st starting at 1800 UTC Saturday
running to 1800 UTC Sunday sponsored by the
Ontario DX Association.
Details are available at http://www.odxa.on.ca/oqphome.html
Files are available for TR-log, NA-log, N1MM's new logging
programme and Log-EQF. As well VE3SYB has
developed a logging programme called "OQP-log"
specifically for this contest.
CU on the bands!
73 de Bob VE3SRE
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>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Fri Apr 19 07:13:04 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
In-Reply-To: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20020419131304.17022.qmail@web13304.mail.yahoo.com>
Ahh, well. Someone failed to READ all of NS3T's
comments concerning his intent and purpose for
the postings, it seems.
I did not read NS3T's comments as flames,
attempts to engage in a witch hunt or anything
like that.
I saw it as an attempt to provide data and some
kind of REASONABLE thought and analysis as to the
WHAT behind the WHY.
ALthough I'm not an analyst, I found it useful
for thought and consideration as I'm sure others
did as well.
Thanks, NS3T, for the info.
73
Chuck K3FT
========================================
There's an old saying.. 'You don't like what you
hear (read) on the radio.. spin the dial (hit
delete)' HI!
-......"This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not
> condone using "fake" calls for spotting, but,
> I'm sure there are better things to talk about
> than this BS.
>
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>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Apr 19 09:28:47 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
In-Reply-To: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204190819300.9820-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 ki9a@aol.com wrote:
> #2 & #3,"unique" spots, inactive calls, blah,blah,blah.
>
> Is this really going to make or break contesting?
>
> DO THE RULES STATE YOU NEED TO USE YOUR OWN CALL TO PUT *INTERNET*, yes,
> INTERNET spots up??
>
> This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not condone using "fake" calls for
> spotting, but, I'm sure there are better things to talk about than this BS.
>
> Again folks, you don't need to correctly ID on the internet spots, errr,
> maybe they changed the rules? Maybe I will spot guys during the next contest
> using the word MOE or CURLEY instead of my own call, I'm sure NS3T will drive
> himself nuts trying to figure if MOE is still active? ;-)
>
> 73-Chuck KI9A
What happened to SHEMP? :-)
I agree; this whole thing is pretty much pointless. No one is going to be
able to prove anything out of it; possibly some of the stations who in
fact did only spot one callsign once during the contest will be offended.
And what constitutes an "inactive station"? Who decides that? I would go
through the effort of contacting each and verifying he/she wasn't in the
contest and didn't spot anybody before making such a broad statement. And
again, it's going to be difficult or impossible to determine and prove who
did make the spot if it was with a fake callsign.
I only made about 10 QSO's during WPX SSB because I lost my voice due to a
virus. I didn't send in a log. I may have spotted somene during that
time; does that make me a suspected villain? Does that make me an
"inactive station"?
Let's discuss something else. Who's going to be in the TARA PSK Rumble
this weekend?
73, Zack W9SZ
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Fri Apr 19 08:30:28 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
References: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00d301c1e7a6$5f1f9fe0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
> This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not condone using "fake" calls for
spotting, but, I'm sure there are better things to talk about than this BS.
Jamie - I on the other hand think your analysis is intriguing and
insightful. We need a lot more of this type of analysis to shed light on the
actual activities and fundamental nature of contesting. I suspect that only
detailed empirical analysis not hearsay will be the only way we can move
amateur radio contesting to a higher plane that it is currently on.
I am still studying you finding. Keep up the good work and keep us informed!
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From k2kw at prodigy.net Fri Apr 19 08:02:02 2002
From: k2kw@prodigy.net (KEN SILVERMAN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DX Holiday Web Page - Major Update
Message-ID: <009c01c1e7aa$c9ee9fc0$97d3fea9@a>
I am pleased to announce the latest update to DX Holiday www.dxholiday.com,
your best source for DXpedition information on Rent-a-QTHs, Ham Friendly
Locations, and Club stations.
This update includes changes to over 55 DXCC Entities.
3B8 3B9 3DA0 3W 6Y 7P 9M2 9M6 9Q A2 A3
A5 C9 CE0 CY9 D4 DU FG FM GJ GW HC8
HI HL HR J6 JW JX K KH0 KH4 KH6 LX LY
OH0 SM SV T7 T88 T9 TG TI TI9 TK TU UT
V2 V5 VK9X YK YU Z2 ZK1 ZS
There are some new Rent-a-QTH additions in: FM, V2, A5, SM, LY, and the KH0
location was improved. Unfortunately we have lost Rent-a-QTH's in:
KH4 and A35. (KH4 is no longer open to the public)
Thanks to all those who submitted information. I must also apologize for
the long awaited update, but life events didn't leave much time for ham
radio since I started working in August 2001. (That was the date of the
last update). Monthly updates will continue again.
If you've been on a recent DXpedition, please send me details of your trip
so others can benefit from your experience!
73, Kenny K2KW
www.dxholiday.com
>From wd3q at erols.com Fri Apr 19 08:19:34 2002
From: wd3q@erols.com (Eric Rosenberg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
Message-ID: <190402109.26373@webbox.com>
When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of my CQWW logs,
I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN information.
I may have gotten that email and subsequent information, but
if I did, I no longer have it.
How can I get it (again)?
Eric W3DQ
Washington DC
>From paspe at mega.ist.utl.pt Fri Apr 19 16:30:51 2002
From: paspe@mega.ist.utl.pt (Pedro Antonio De Sousa Pedroso)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ certificates
In-Reply-To: <E16yHCR-0002by-00@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10204191529370.28588-100000@mega>
I am still waiting for a WPX award from CQ WW WPX CW 1999
.... never understood why it is taking so long.
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Merrimon Crawford Pladsen wrote:
> From: Merrimon Crawford Pladsen <ab0mv@ix.netcom.com>
> To: CQ-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ certificates
>
> I know people still waiting for certificates/plaques from 1999 CQ contests.
> 4 years is too long. Those responsible will not respond to repeated
> questions via email or snail mail. Even a simple response that those
> responsible & CQ contest committee are aware of the delay and are trying to
> do something about it would be better than refusing any response to
> certificate/plaque winners!
> 73
> Merri AB0MV
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Fri Apr 19 11:01:32 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] It's All in the Mind, You Know
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020419094646.00b809f8@pop.pdq.net>
Packet thread has been interesting to say the least.
Still, Ham Radio is just a hobby, and hobbies are to enjoy.
Self spotting.
Clandestine spotting.
Buddy repeat spotting.
QSO begging spotting.
QLF.
QRQ.
QRS.
F1, F2, F3, F4 - Can't copy CW.
F1, F2, F3, F4 - Can't send CW.
Frequency police.
Scoldings for not using split.
Deliberate QRM.
Net ownership of frequencies.
Contesters destroying telephone quality SSB chit chat of rag chewers.
Hemorrhoid, aches and pains, and medication QSO content.
Political QSO's.
High Power.
Low Power.
Big antennae.
No antennae.
Stations with maintenance crews.
Stations hiding in a closet.
TVI.
BCI.
RFI.
Front Row Monkeys.
Back Row Monkeys.
Audio adjustment # 2437.
Funny how some things bug me, and some things make me laugh.
Guess I better to just learn to laugh more - at more,
and get bugged less - at less.
Maybe then, I'm gonna find I enjoy my hobby every bit as much as I seem to
keep telling myself.
Who else wants to join me in trying to enjoy the hobby enough to get past
most of the above list?
I really do like to laugh.
Maybe ham radio and laughter would make for a great day on a repeated basis.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Apr 19 11:23:05 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
In-Reply-To: <20020419131304.17022.qmail@web13304.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204191014570.13474-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Chuck wrote:
> Ahh, well. Someone failed to READ all of NS3T's
> comments concerning his intent and purpose for
> the postings, it seems.
>
> I did not read NS3T's comments as flames,
> attempts to engage in a witch hunt or anything
> like that.
>
> I saw it as an attempt to provide data and some
> kind of REASONABLE thought and analysis as to the
> WHAT behind the WHY.
>
> ALthough I'm not an analyst, I found it useful
> for thought and consideration as I'm sure others
> did as well.
>
> Thanks, NS3T, for the info.
>
> 73
>
> Chuck K3FT
I had a misunderstanding. Jamie pointed out to me that "inactive" didn't
mean that the station wasn't in the contest, but rather that the callsign
hadn't been issued according to recent databases. That makes the whole
thing much more intriguing. I'm now among the curious!
Zack W9SZ
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Fri Apr 19 09:35:19 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
References: <23FDC2BE.08F208D0.00003FFE@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004901c1e7b7$d3e0c8c0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
The crazy nature of practically every open e-mail reflector can be
blamed for some of the annoyance we all feel about the postings
we receive from time to time. We all want to present and
sometimes promote our own views and in so doing we might even
try to suppress those views that run counter to our own. It's the
nature of reflectors.
Reflectors do provide a valuable forum for our ideas, and the
contesting reflector can get particularly ugly sometimes simply
because it is just about the best way to promote new ideas
about "fairness" in contests. NS3T was clearly a little bit wild
with his early posts on this subject, and a number of innocents
were abused in the process. The "witch hunt" comparison is
a good one.
We do need to reexamine the rules of contests from time to time,
and provide new suggestions as to how contesting can be made
"fair" again when we discover new technologies that are legal by
the "word of the law" but are nonetheless "cheating" when an
honest evaluation is made. This year it's the net, next year it
could be something we haven't thought of yet.
We can all agree that the demon that NS3T was attacking
deserves to be vanquished, even though we'd like to see an
approach to this battle that would inflict less collateral damage.
----- Original Message -----
From: <ki9a@aol.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 20:04
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
> #2 & #3,"unique" spots, inactive calls, blah,blah,blah.
>
> Is this really going to make or break contesting?
>
> DO THE RULES STATE YOU NEED TO USE YOUR OWN CALL TO PUT *INTERNET*, yes,
INTERNET spots up??
>
> This thread needs to stop. BTW, I do not condone using "fake" calls for
spotting, but, I'm sure there are better things to talk about than this BS.
>
> Again folks, you don't need to correctly ID on the internet spots, errr,
maybe they changed the rules? Maybe I will spot guys during the next contest
using the word MOE or CURLEY instead of my own call, I'm sure NS3T will
drive himself nuts trying to figure if MOE is still active? ;-)
>
> 73-Chuck KI9A
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>From dennis.mcalpine at verizon.net Fri Apr 19 12:40:19 2002
From: dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net (Dennis McAlpine)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FW: nice work!
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEGGDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <00b901c1e7b8$83186fa0$e1e453a2@oemcomputer>
Jamie.NS3T,
Add my compliments for your efforts as well. It may not prove anythin but
if there's enough smoke, there might just be a fire there somewhere.
For those who are critical of this "BS" ,as one arrogant writer called it, I
remind you of the furor that N6AA et al created when he started the whole
concept of "uniques, uniques + 1, etc". Yet, as a result of that I would
guess that the accuracy of logging has gone up dramatically and most of us
have become better operators as a result of paying more attention to what we
are doing.
Go back even before then to the times when certain contesters thought it was
smart to run excessive power to make their life easier. We all knew who
they were. For example, how many W6s from CA can run a pile-up of East
Coast stations on 40 cw at 1400 EST with a s9 signal with 100 watts? or
even a KW? Eventually, peer pressure forced most of those guys to get with
the program and run legit power.
The type of analysis you are doing may well cause the same sort of reaction.
The people who are illegally (yes, the rules do prohibit such spots)
spotting themselves under the guise of someone else's call or a made-up one
can no longer hide under the rock. Once they are in the sunlight maybe they
will get the bright idea that it's time to cease and desist.
Keep it up.
73,
Dennis K2SX
----- Original Message -----
From: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@adelphia.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:08 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FW: nice work!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jljarvis [mailto:jljarvis@adelphia.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:08 AM
> To: jdup@jdupree.com
> Subject: nice work!
>
>
> Jamie/NS3T,
>
> Not very many guys have the capability to do the search/analysis
> you did...and of those, few would take the time. Nice bit of work.
>
> What this does is set a standard for the contest committees...if
> they choose to go there....for the kind of analysis which is possible.
>
> The only 'weak' spot in it is identifying calls which are 'active'...
> and I would assume that contest committees would draw up on log
> submissions as well as buckmaster, or other reporting services.
>
> What your data makes abundantly clear, is that there is a relatively
> high level of packet piracy going on. The potential is there for this
> to increase.
>
> This would seem to be difficult ground upon which to formulate
> competitive policy. Want your chief rival DQ'd? Spot 'im!
>
> For that matter...and this is another thread....want your chief rival's
> rate to drop? Spot 'im!
>
> Jim Jarvis, N2EA
>
>
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>From KI9A at aol.com Fri Apr 19 13:57:41 2002
From: KI9A@aol.com (KI9A@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
Message-ID: <12f.1015ddb5.29f1a685@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/19/02 11:53:05 AM Central Daylight Time,
SteveBaron@StarLinX.com writes:
You seem to have missed the whole point.
>
Nope. Not at all.
The point is it would be darn near impossible to stop packet cheats. Period,
especially INTERNET spots.
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>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Fri Apr 19 14:14:05 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Folks,
While this may be a tiresome topic for some, I, for one,
would like to see some fact-based vision applied to the
process of rulemaking. NS3T's data makes a giant step in
that regard.
As Zack/KI9A pointed out, Manny, Moe and Curley can spot legally
via Internet. There are third-party message issues afoot when
those spots are absorbed into RF distribution systems, however.
(Here comes David Popkin!)
I can see a whole landscape of possible policy choices adopted by
contest sponsors, and packet system operators in response to this
situation.
Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
I have what I believe is an informed and reasoned justification
for this recommendation. Short form: It's not a benefit,if
everyone can do it; it may reduce rates. If in doubt, see K1AR's
column in the May CQ, reference N2RM.
Jim/N2EA
>From k7gt at attbi.com Fri Apr 19 18:42:41 2002
From: k7gt@attbi.com (k7gt@attbi.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Any serious contest loggers for LINUX??
Message-ID: <20020419174244.FGSF1143.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57>
I am a very casual contester currently using TRLog
(which I like very much) on an older DOS PC. Looking
forward a few years, maintaining that old PC and its
ilk is going to be quite problematic. Thus I wonder
if there have been any serious efforts to write up
a contest logger that would function well on a modern
very fast PC running LINUX (as opposed to Windows XXX).
I do mostly CW for both regular operating and contests,
so superb CW keying from the program is a MUST. I am
wondering if LINUX running on, say, a 1.6 GHZ PC might be
free enough from system interrupts to key a rig. Or,
another direction, could it drive a W5XD-style SO2R
control/keyer
box?
I am NOT a LINUX geek but have used it casually at work
along with UNIX on the workstations there.
If this is previously walked turf, I apologize in advance
as I am a newbie here.
73 Allan K7GT
(contest under K6TTX)
Pleasanton CA
>From dhenderson at arrl.org Fri Apr 19 15:58:39 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL Offers Members Expanded Contest Results on the Web
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B7810@KAHLESS>
ARRL Debuts Expanded Online Contest Coverage
The ARRL is proud to announce the introduction of expanded online coverage
of ARRL contests effective April 19, 2002. The URL for expanded ARRL Contest
coverage is http://www.arrl.org/contests/results/ . ARRL staff members and
volunteers have spent many months in planning and developing this expanded
online resource to provide more detailed, in-depth coverage of ARRL events
on the Web. Expanded ARRL Contest coverage online supplements coverage in
QST.
The first contest results presented in the expanded online format are the
2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes, CW. The online presentation features:
? An interactive, searchable database of the line scores. In addition to the
information normally presented in QST, you can see band-by-band QSO
breakdowns, hours operated, check and club affiliation for each entry. The
database is searchable by call sign, entry class, ARRL Section or Division,
and club. You can sort the results by many criteria, including call, score,
QSOs, multipliers, or band QSOs.
? Expanded Soapbox comments. In the initial presentation, Soapbox comments
from all of the electronic Cabrillo entries are included. For future
contests, the Soapbox tools will be available for entrants to add their
comments or photos immediately after the contest.
? An expanded version of the contest write-up that appears in QST. Written
by noted competitor Randy Thompson, K5ZD, the expanded writeup goes into
much more detail than the typical QST presentation. Also included are
station descriptions for the top 10 entrants in each single-op category, a
sidebar story about the log checking process by K5ZD and a sidebar about the
history of the November Sweepstakes by Doug Grant, K1DG.
? Updated contest category records. Ken Adams, K5KA, and Dave Clemons,
K1VUT, have teamed up to provided updated November Sweepstakes records for
each entry class and ARRL Division and Section, as well as overall category
records.
The new features add to existing online resources for contesters, including
complete ARRL contest rules and forms, the ARRL Contest Calendar, and the
Contest Corral listing of contests throughout the year. ARRL Members may
also subscribe to the ARRL Contest Rate Sheet, a biweekly e-mail newsletter
that debuted in March 2002.
Access to the extended coverage is available to ARRL members. To visit the
site, you need to be logged on to the ARRL website with your user name and
password. If you have not registered, you may do so online at
www.arrl.org/members. As has been our practice for several years, non-ARRL
members will continue to be able to view a PDF file of the QST results
article from the main ARRL Contest Branch Web page at www.arrl.org/contests
approximately 30 days after the issue of QST in which it appears has been
published.
ARRL Contests Online is considered a "work in progress." The online
presentation will be flexible, allowing us to improve the site as it
develops. As new contest results become available, they will be added to the
site. As you explore the site, we welcome your feedback. You may contact
contests@arrl.org with your comments or suggestions. You may also contact us
by phone at 860-594-0232.
>From geoiii at kkn.net Fri Apr 19 13:38:48 2002
From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III - K5TR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>; from
jljarvis on Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <20020419123848.C8470@loja.kkn.net>
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400, jljarvis wrote:
>
> Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
>
Yes.
In fact I will go a step further and recommend that we
also modify the contest logging programs to do a
self spot anytime you call CQ.
(This idea was thought up by N5KO about 7 months ago.)
--
George Fremin III - K5TR
geoiii@kkn.net
http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>From w7zr at citlink.net Fri Apr 19 13:47:16 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] BIG PRICE REDUCTION!!
Message-ID: <000901c1e7db$2b61d350$35d1fea9@N1>
I have just done a major price reduction on my QTH in Mexico. Great DX and
Contest location. Take a look at www.w7zr.com
73
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>From kr6x at kr6x.com Fri Apr 19 14:45:17 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
<20020419123848.C8470@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <001e01c1e7e3$27fc6790$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
This is a neat idea if we are trying to push the guys still using
pencils out of contesting. That would probably include
newcomers to contesting, as well as N6PN.
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Fremin III - K5TR" <geoiii@kkn.net>
To: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 12:38
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400, jljarvis wrote:
> >
> > Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> > Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
> >
>
> Yes.
>
> In fact I will go a step further and recommend that we
> also modify the contest logging programs to do a
> self spot anytime you call CQ.
>
> (This idea was thought up by N5KO about 7 months ago.)
>
> --
> George Fremin III - K5TR
> geoiii@kkn.net
> http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>
>
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>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Fri Apr 19 17:57:24 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL Offers Members Expanded Contest Results on the Web
Message-ID: <8c.17170751.29f1deb4@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/19/2002 7:26:39 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
dhenderson@arrl.org writes:
> ARRL Debuts Expanded Online Contest Coverage
>
Dan, all I can say is WOW. Great work, and tnx.
73, George
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From k2qmf at juno.com Fri Apr 19 18:51:51 2002
From: k2qmf@juno.com (k2qmf@juno.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Message-ID: <20020419.175204.-861739.0.K2QMF@juno.com>
This is a great idea!!
This would stop all this foolishness and maybe make contesting
a little more "FUN". After all isn't that what ham radio is all
about????
73, Ted K2QMF. See ya at Dayton for some fun...
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 12:38:48 -0700 George Fremin III - K5TR
<geoiii@kkn.net> writes:
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400, jljarvis wrote:
> >
> > Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> > Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
>
> >
>
> Yes.
>
> In fact I will go a step further and recommend that we
> also modify the contest logging programs to do a
> self spot anytime you call CQ.
>
> (This idea was thought up by N5KO about 7 months ago.)
>
> --
> George Fremin III - K5TR
> geoiii@kkn.net
> http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>
>
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>From kk4ta at STRATO.NET Fri Apr 19 19:16:34 2002
From: kk4ta@STRATO.NET (Tom and Adela)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Stepp-IR 3 element Beam
In-Reply-To: <026c01c1e736$25a97f80$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <BIEGKCDKMCJPDIEONEMJCEGECCAA.kk4ta@strato.net>
Hello All,
Is anyone out there using the Stepp-IR beam, or have you seen any reviews
other than the ones in e-ham which I have read.
I am soooooo close to ordering one, but am still somewhat hesitant. Any
opinions from anyone?
Their site is http://www.fluidmotion.ws/index.htm
Tom
KK4TA
>From K7LXC at aol.com Fri Apr 19 21:06:08 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Stepp-IR 3 element Beam
Message-ID: <15f.c74e93c.29f20af0@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/19/02 3:25:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kk4ta@STRATO.NET
writes:
> Is anyone out there using the Stepp-IR beam, or have you seen any reviews
> other than the ones in e-ham which I have read.
>
> I am soooooo close to ordering one, but am still somewhat hesitant. Any
> opinions from anyone?
Check out the TowerTalk archives at www.contesting.com. Go to the List
Search and put in <towertalk stepp>.
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
TOWER TECH
>From ha5pp at yahoo.com Fri Apr 19 22:29:05 2002
From: ha5pp@yahoo.com (Zoltan Szoke)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
In-Reply-To: <001e01c1e7e3$27fc6790$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Message-ID: <20020420042905.25369.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi,
Yes. All contesters (callsign) will be on culsters.
The contest program will make a callsign-map per band.
We can see the call-map on monitor. We will no need
any hunting (mults, etc.). The logging program will
know what we needed. Perhaps a "help-program" will be
able to make some important mults for us WITHOUT US.
And finally we will no need to fight 40-48 hours non
stop, it will be enough to check our PC by hours. Or
it will be enough to push a BIG ENTER at the start of
the contest...(??) This is the future of contesting.
73
Zoli
HA5PP
--- "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com> wrote:
> This is a neat idea if we are trying to push the
> guys still using
> pencils out of contesting. That would probably
> include
> newcomers to contesting, as well as N6PN.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Fremin III - K5TR" <geoiii@kkn.net>
> To: "jljarvis" <jljarvis@adelphia.net>
> Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 12:38
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting
> 'witch-hunt'
>
>
> > On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:14:05PM -0400, jljarvis
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Want to stop packet piracy and perceived
> cheating?
> > > Make self-spotting legal, for any station
> allowed to use packet.
> > >
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > In fact I will go a step further and recommend
> that we
> > also modify the contest logging programs to do a
> > self spot anytime you call CQ.
> >
> > (This idea was thought up by N5KO about 7 months
> ago.)
> >
> > --
> > George Fremin III - K5TR
> > geoiii@kkn.net
> > http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >
>
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> >
>
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Sat Apr 20 09:11:53 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New ARRL Web Coverage of Contests
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020420074959.025f9400@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
The new approach to covering contests is excellent -- compliments to N1ND,
K5ZD and all others involved in the project. I particularly enjoyed the
ability to sort and display line scores by various parameters, and the
presentation of band-by-band breakouts for everyone. The equipment page on
stations in the top ten boxes was also a welcome addition. Finally, I
think the new transparency as to which stations counted toward which club
score is a welcome addition.
There are just two things I would like to see added. The major one would
be on-line access to my own set of the reports described by K5ZD in his
sidebar "What Price Accuracy." I know that in the past these have been
available by e-mail request to N1ND, but frankly I hesitate to make the
request when I know how few and how busy folks in the Contest Branch
are. CQWW has made this information available, and since N6TR wrote the
software for both I'd hope that most of the work has already been done.
The minor request would be to be able to sort line scores by region as well
as Division and Section.
A great start!
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From maposte at hotmail.com Sat Apr 20 13:45:57 2002
From: maposte@hotmail.com (Fred NA2U)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [3830] ARRL Offers Members Expanded Contest Results
on the Web
Message-ID: <F87zadTMVwVn20lbhsK0000441a@hotmail.com>
Dan, what a GREAT source of contest results! But, PLEASE don't stop
publishing individual contest results in QST.
73,
Fred/NA2U
CWMAN...I'D RATHER WORK CW!!!
"Je mange donc je suis."
>From: "Henderson, Dan N1ND" <dhenderson@arrl.org>
>To: "'3830@contesting.com'" <3830@contesting.com>, "'cq-contest'"
><cq-contest@contesting.com>, "'VHF List'" <vhf@w6yx.Stanford.EDU>,
>"'VHF Contesting.com'" <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
>Subject: [3830] ARRL Offers Members Expanded Contest Results on the Web
>
>
>ARRL Debuts Expanded Online Contest Coverage
>
>The ARRL is proud to announce the introduction of expanded online coverage
>of ARRL contests effective April 19, 2002. The URL for expanded ARRL
>Contest
>coverage is http://www.arrl.org/contests/results/ . ARRL staff members and
>volunteers have spent many months in planning and developing this expanded
>online resource to provide more detailed, in-depth coverage of ARRL events
>on the Web. Expanded ARRL Contest coverage online supplements coverage in
>QST.
>
>The first contest results presented in the expanded online format are the
>2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes, CW. The online presentation features:
>
>Ø An interactive, searchable database of the line scores. In addition to
>the
>information normally presented in QST, you can see band-by-band QSO
>breakdowns, hours operated, check and club affiliation for each entry. The
>database is searchable by call sign, entry class, ARRL Section or Division,
>and club. You can sort the results by many criteria, including call, score,
>QSOs, multipliers, or band QSOs.
>
>Ø Expanded Soapbox comments. In the initial presentation, Soapbox comments
>from all of the electronic Cabrillo entries are included. For future
>contests, the Soapbox tools will be available for entrants to add their
>comments or photos immediately after the contest.
>
>Ø An expanded version of the contest write-up that appears in QST. Written
>by noted competitor Randy Thompson, K5ZD, the expanded writeup goes into
>much more detail than the typical QST presentation. Also included are
>station descriptions for the top 10 entrants in each single-op category, a
>sidebar story about the log checking process by K5ZD and a sidebar about
>the
>history of the November Sweepstakes by Doug Grant, K1DG.
>
>Ø Updated contest category records. Ken Adams, K5KA, and Dave Clemons,
>K1VUT, have teamed up to provided updated November Sweepstakes records for
>each entry class and ARRL Division and Section, as well as overall category
>records.
>
>The new features add to existing online resources for contesters, including
>complete ARRL contest rules and forms, the ARRL Contest Calendar, and the
>Contest Corral listing of contests throughout the year. ARRL Members may
>also subscribe to the ARRL Contest Rate Sheet, a biweekly e-mail newsletter
>that debuted in March 2002.
>
>Access to the extended coverage is available to ARRL members. To visit the
>site, you need to be logged on to the ARRL website with your user name and
>password. If you have not registered, you may do so online at
>www.arrl.org/members. As has been our practice for several years, non-ARRL
>members will continue to be able to view a PDF file of the QST results
>article from the main ARRL Contest Branch Web page at www.arrl.org/contests
>approximately 30 days after the issue of QST in which it appears has been
>published.
>
>ARRL Contests Online is considered a "work in progress." The online
>presentation will be flexible, allowing us to improve the site as it
>develops. As new contest results become available, they will be added to
>the
>site. As you explore the site, we welcome your feedback. You may contact
>contests@arrl.org with your comments or suggestions. You may also contact
>us
>by phone at 860-594-0232.
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Sat Apr 20 05:53:59 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
Message-ID: <000901c1e86f$8972caa0$6941fa43@computer>
How can I get one for SSCW and find the UBN for CQ and ARRL??
Not a computer geek/guru
QUACK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 15:19
Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
>
> When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of my CQWW logs,
> I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN information.
>
>
> I may have gotten that email and subsequent information, but
> if I did, I no longer have it.
>
> How can I get it (again)?
>
> Eric W3DQ
> Washington DC
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Sat Apr 20 05:47:56 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] It's All in the Mind, You Know
Message-ID: <000801c1e86f$880aaf20$6941fa43@computer>
QUACKS
Bob your taking all these treads TOO Serious, get a grip and Hang on,
Somone will now make a tread of your complaint.
73 TU Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob, N5RP" <N5RP@pdq.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 16:01
Subject: [CQ-Contest] It's All in the Mind, You Know
> Packet thread has been interesting to say the least.
>
> Still, Ham Radio is just a hobby, and hobbies are to enjoy.
>
> Self spotting.
> Clandestine spotting.
> Buddy repeat spotting.
> QSO begging spotting.
> QLF.
> QRQ.
> QRS.
> F1, F2, F3, F4 - Can't copy CW.
> F1, F2, F3, F4 - Can't send CW.
> Frequency police.
> Scoldings for not using split.
> Deliberate QRM.
> Net ownership of frequencies.
> Contesters destroying telephone quality SSB chit chat of rag chewers.
> Hemorrhoid, aches and pains, and medication QSO content.
> Political QSO's.
> High Power.
> Low Power.
> Big antennae.
> No antennae.
> Stations with maintenance crews.
> Stations hiding in a closet.
> TVI.
> BCI.
> RFI.
> Front Row Monkeys.
> Back Row Monkeys.
> Audio adjustment # 2437.
>
> Funny how some things bug me, and some things make me laugh.
> Guess I better to just learn to laugh more - at more,
> and get bugged less - at less.
> Maybe then, I'm gonna find I enjoy my hobby every bit as much as I seem to
> keep telling myself.
>
> Who else wants to join me in trying to enjoy the hobby enough to get past
> most of the above list?
>
> I really do like to laugh.
> Maybe ham radio and laughter would make for a great day on a repeated
basis.
> Bob Perring
> ...........................................
> Amateur Radio Station N5RP
> mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
> N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>
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>From K4tmc at aol.com Sat Apr 20 11:31:32 2002
From: K4tmc@aol.com (K4tmc@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] May QST arrives
Message-ID: <b2.a470a1c.29f2d5c4@aol.com>
A stop by the PO box this morning resulted in the latest issues of QST.
Front cover photo of the W8ZR EZ-Tuner; with this issue containing Part 2 of
the related article.
Contest related items:
The EZ-Tuner, Part 2
A DXpedition to Niger (during the ARRL DX SSB Contest)
A Novice Contester Gets His
DXing with Polar Bears (and 10 Meter contesting)
The Evolution of the World Radiosport Team Championships
Product Review - ICOM IC-746PRO transceiver
Results - 2001 ARRL International EME Competition
Rules - ARRL Field Day 2002 and June VHF QSO Party
Other interesting items:
It Seems To Us (editorial) Ever Upward (the quest for higher and higher
frequencies)
The St. Loius Switcher (13.8 V at 20 A from a PC power supply)
A Microphone Adapter for the IC-706
A 6-Meter Quad-Turnstile
One Stealthy Delta (an HF Delta Loop)
Somewhere There's a Good Home for a Boat Anchor
What Can You Do with a Dip Meter?
Hints & Kinks - Coiling wire or rope without kinks; FT1000 for digital mode
USB/LSB
Happenings - ARRL Asks FCC to Eliminate, "Refarm" Novice CW Bands
How's DX? - More on the Pileups and Behavior
The World Above 50 MHz - The Problem with DX Records
Old Radio - Tube Lore (the 813)
Ads:
Inside-cover, full-page, bright orange ad for the Florida QSO Party (OK, this
is not the April issue)
Am-Com and High Sierra have a combined full-page ad for the Am-Com Antenna
Controller and the HS-1500MKII Antenna.
SGC has full-page ad for their new product, the STEALTH Kit (Smart Tuning
Emergency Antenna Loop Tactical Hf), which is basically an SG-237 tuner, 80
ft of wire, and some nylon rope.
Radio Shack has a cute ad for their new dual band HT. It is in one of those
white foam trays that you buy meat in at the local supermarket,
shrink-wrapped, and with a label stating "our ham is 100% FCC choice".
The ARRL has a new book - Simple and Fun Antennas for Hams.
Alpha Power has ad with picture of their new ALPHA 6 six-meter 1500W
amplifier.
Yaesu's inside-backcover-page ad shows their new "ultra-rugged submersible
tri-band magnesium handie" labeled Submersible VX-7R.
How long before we will have an "ultra-rugged submersible magnesium
FT1000MP-MKV Field Plus"? Aren't island Dxpeditioners demanding something
like this? And with its own built-in water-activated EPIRB!
73 & High Rates,
Henry Pollock - K4TMC
Raleigh, NC
Oops, don't forget the OJ QSO Party! Oops again; it's the Florida QSO Party!
OK JIm...go...
>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Sat Apr 20 08:42:12 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] spotting
In-Reply-To: <20020420042905.25369.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020420144212.19523.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com>
Iassume the message about everyone self spotting
and allowing all to do this was in jest. I will
take it as such.
To cut back on the 'bogus spotting' perhaps a
good tack to take would be for the Internet
accessible spotting networks (and I guess the
other systems as well) to implement callsign
checks using current callsign resource checkers.
(QRZ/BUCKMASTER, registration by individual to
verify they arewho they say they are). I'm not a
progrmamerso I'll not even attempt to proffer a
suggestionon the 'how'. I leave that to the
pro's.
When you log in it checks your call against a
master list. If good...you get
through.Thisdoesn't stop the spoofer, but if it
is a problem, then there are tracing items which
can find out the where. It's not easy..but if we
start NOW.. we canimplement things and improve
them. Again, I'm not saying 'HOW' just offering
food for thought.
Spotting is here to stay. It's not going away and
itis a useful tool having value, indeed. Best we
can do with the genie that is well and good out
of the bottle is figure out a wayto manage and
manipulate it.
Just one small suggestion and idea.
best 73
CU in the Pileups!
Chuck K3FT
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>From n2mg at contesting.com Sat Apr 20 13:40:59 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
Message-ID:
<20020420124100.28192.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
For ARRL contests, email N1ND@arrl.org and request the
specific contest(s).
For CQWW, you were (should have been) sent instructions
in an email with the URL and an access number.
73 Mike N2MG
On Sat, 20 April 2002, "Rex Maner" wrote
>
> How can I get one for SSCW and find the UBN for CQ
and ARRL??
> Not a computer geek/guru
> QUACK
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 15:19
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN
Information
>
>
> >
> > When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of
my CQWW logs,
> > I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN
information.
> >
> >
> > I may have gotten that email and subsequent
information, but
> > if I did, I no longer have it.
> >
> > How can I get it (again)?
> >
> > Eric W3DQ
> > Washington DC
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Apr 20 19:08:16 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging
Message-ID: <025d01c1e8b9$4882a5c0$03010a0a@office1>
I've just been asked by my club's Field Day chairman to serve on the
computer/logging committee. First order of business is to decide on a
logging program for this year.
Two complications:
1) we have a blind amateur in the club, so a lot of Windows oriented
packages won't work because of problems with his text-to-voice hardware &
software
2) they would like to network the two or three operating positions
together.
So far, WriteLog has been suggested. Personally, I like CT but I know
networking it can be cranky. And we are going to talk to Tom N3EQF about
Log-EQF & Win-EQF in the next few days, when we can catch up to him
(advantage of him being a local!)
Any suggestions?
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
"There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
probably."
--John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 20 23:34:56 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX Spots #1
References: <009301c1e746$70c1f190$0000a398@COMPUTER>
Message-ID: <3CC1DF00.658759FD@harborside.com>
Jamie Dupree wrote:
>
> Contesters:
>
> This post begins a review of spots from the 2002 WPX SSB contest.
I was wondering, what happens if a QRP station uses packet
spotting. Does that automatically take him (or her) out of the
QRP category and put them in LP assisted? I don't think there is
such a thing as QRP assisted is there? 73
Tom W7WHY
>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 20 23:41:34 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOEGMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <3CC1E08E.6B0E2AD5@harborside.com>
jljarvis wrote:
> Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
Or just forget about packet and do it without spotting at all.
No? Why not.
Tom W7WHY
>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 20 23:51:19 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's "witch-hunt"
References: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10204190819300.9820-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <3CC1E2D7.F8704B63@harborside.com>
Zack Widup wrote:
> And what constitutes an "inactive station"?
I would think the Buckmaster callsign lookup is a good spot to
start (where he got lots of his data). If there is no such
callsign issued, I'd be pretty sure it's "inactive."
Tom W7WHY
>From ve6jy at freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Sun Apr 21 00:35:34 2002
From: ve6jy@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (VE6JY Don Moman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging
References: <025d01c1e8b9$4882a5c0$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <003501c1e8bb$b192c980$ddcea1c6@ve6jy>
TRlog would be (and is) my choice. It's especially suited to field day since
it can run on a wide range of older machines and laptops and is very easy
to network and interface to the radios (be sure you have enough serial
ports - 2 per machine is handy. The intuitive use of the enter and
escape keys make for easy learning and logging for a new user. All files are
plain ascii txt so if you do have a problem with power or hd problems, it's
a lot easier to "fix" or recover a corrupted text file than a bin type. TR
is very bulletproof if you do have a power crash (who forgot to fuel the
genny?) which is another plus. Support from the author, N6TR and the TRlog
reflector is tops.
As a bonus, the free sample version supports Field day.
http://www.qth.com/tr/free.html
73 Don
VE6JY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 23:08
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging
> I've just been asked by my club's Field Day chairman to serve on the
> computer/logging committee. First order of business is to decide on a
> logging program for this year.
>
> Two complications:
>
> 1) we have a blind amateur in the club, so a lot of Windows oriented
> packages won't work because of problems with his text-to-voice hardware &
> software
>
> 2) they would like to network the two or three operating positions
> together.
>
> So far, WriteLog has been suggested. Personally, I like CT but I know
> networking it can be cranky. And we are going to talk to Tom N3EQF about
> Log-EQF & Win-EQF in the next few days, when we can catch up to him
> (advantage of him being a local!)
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "There's No Crying in Baseball!"
> -- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
>
> "There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
> probably."
> --John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From k2qmf at juno.com Sat Apr 20 21:38:01 2002
From: k2qmf@juno.com (k2qmf@juno.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Message-ID: <20020420.204438.-88046435.0.K2QMF@juno.com>
Because it's more "FUN" to use packet for some of us...
K2QMF
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 22:41:34 +0100 Tom Osborne <w7why@harborside.com>
writes:
>
>
> jljarvis wrote:
>
> > Want to stop packet piracy and perceived cheating?
> > Make self-spotting legal, for any station allowed to use packet.
>
>
> Or just forget about packet and do it without spotting at all.
> No? Why not.
> Tom W7WHY
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
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>From wd3q at erols.com Sat Apr 20 23:19:35 2002
From: wd3q@erols.com (Eric Rosenberg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fwd: Re: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020420221834.009fb640@pop3.norton.antivirus>
This worked for me.
Thanks Steve for the suggestion, and Larry (N6TW) for the quick
response!
Eric W3DQ
Washington, DC
>Reply-To: "Steve Baron - KB3MM" <SteveBaron@StarLinX.com>
>From: "Steve Baron - KB3MM" <SteveBaron@StarLinX.com>
>To: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700
>
>Go to www.cqww.com and send an e-mail to N6TW (address on that page).
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
>To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 14:19
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
>
>
> >
> > When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of my CQWW logs,
> > I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN information.
> >
> > I may have gotten that email and subsequent information, but
> > if I did, I no longer have it.
> >
> > How can I get it (again)?
> >
> > Eric W3DQ
> > Washington DC
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>From k2kw at prodigy.net Sun Apr 21 01:02:22 2002
From: k2kw@prodigy.net (KEN SILVERMAN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Visalia Contest Dinner - It's not too late!
Message-ID: <002301c1e902$7e1694a0$97d3fea9@a>
We still have seats available for the Contest Dinner at Visalia! It's not
too late to join the fun. Dr. Beldar's been doing some last minute consumer
research, and his presentation on new contesting products of the future
should not be missed!
Please get your reservations into Tom, K5RC (below) ASAP. All dinner
reservations need to be done by Tuesday.
73, Kenny K2KW
----------------------
4th Annual International DX Convention Contest Dinner
Evening Events: Dinner, short contesting program, guest speaker, and door
prizes. Guest speaker: Dr Beldar - "Dr Beldar's Contest Emporium"
Products you are not likely to see at HRO!
Doors and cash bar open at 7:00 p.m. Dinner is served at 8:00 p.m. (Note:
This dinner is not part of the convention registration fee, and is a
separate function open to all who wish to join the fun.)
The dinner will be held in the Oak and Maple rooms at the Holiday Inn
Visalia, 9000 West Airport Drive, Visalia, CA
Many contesters from around the world have already made their reservations.
You don't want to miss this opportunity to meet and hang out with top
contesters and DXers!
Dinner Details:
Menu: Prime Rib of Beef -- $29.00 or Chicken Princess -- $23.00
Meals include: salad, entree, baked potato, green beans almondine, bread,
tea/coffee, chocolate mousse dessert and all taxes and gratuity. Chicken
Princess is a grilled chicken breast topped with asparagus, shrimp, and a
cream-wine sauce. Cash bar will remain open during dinner.
Tables are set in rounds of 10, no reserved seating.
Tickets: Deadline for ticket orders is Tuesday, April 23, 2002. Tickets are
not being sold at the door. Tickets will not be mailed, but will be held at
the door and available at 6pm, Friday, April 26, 2002.
You can only order tickets by calling, faxing, e-mailing or snail-mail to:
Tom Taormina, K5RC
Productivity Resources
PO Box 1126
Virginia City NV 89440
775-847-7929
775-847-7930 (FAX)
k5rc@aol.com
Payment Methods: Visa/MC/Amex (include expiration date, and name as it
appears on the card), checks, money order, or cash - sorry, no CODs. Credit
card billings will show up as "Productivity Resources".
Refund Policy: Dinner orders must be guaranteed with the hotel, so we
cannot offer refunds on or after Wednesday, April 24, 2002. You are free to
resell your dinner if you cannot make the event.
>From k1ir at designet.com Sun Apr 21 09:31:43 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] (no subject)
Message-ID: <1lorwrtb0j6ozq1.210420020831@designet-jsi>
Wayne,
A problem that occurs at only 200W will almost certainly be in the driven
element. You may have to take it down and find the loose hardware, bad
connection or clean up one of the loading coils, but you don't have to buy a
new antenna!
73,
Jim K1IR
[Towertalk] Hy=Gain 402BA-S
Wayne F. King wfking@worldnet.att.net
Sun, 21 Apr 2002 05:49:32 -0400
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HI Folks,
I have a HY-GAIN 402BA-S 40 meter 2 el beam. It works fine on RX and 100
watts TX. However it does not like high power anymore. Instant SWR
infinity with the PA on. Even at 200 watts it appears to arch over. As
long as I run less then 150 watts it's fine.
It's mounted at 110' and 15' above a Mosley Pro-57A. It's feed with 1/2"
heliax and a RG-214U jumper to a WX0B 1.1 balun. I checked the feedline
to the balun with a 50 ohm load and it's fine. The balun checked out
fine. In fact I substituted a coax balun and still the same problem.
I thought I would run this by you folks before I take it down. Hopefully
someone has a handle on this and maybe a fix other then buying a new
antenna.
Thanks in advance.
Wayne N2WK
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Jim Idelson K1IR
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>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sun Apr 21 13:48:50 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: so2r off the shelf?
In-Reply-To: <003901c1e3c5$e0628520$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <000501c1e932$e34ff7f0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Again I thank everyone who replied to the original question I posed
about so2r equipment that I could get off the shelf. I have finally
filtered and read the replies and summarized them on my web site at
http://www.k1ttt.net/technote/tworadio.html. In this summary I have
left out replies that said things like: 'go to this website for
everything', or 'I know xxx uses this stuff', or 'switch to writelog and
use their unique stuff', or 'trlog is better', or 'I have a great
homebrew setup', or 'these look good on the web site, but I have never
used them'. I am also leaving out the ones that went on about how to
setup filters and stubs, as I stated I am presently set up for m/m
operation so I know about filtering, what I am looking for is how to
switch everything the best way for so2r. If you want to review the
whole thread it is available in the archives of course.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yccc-admin@yccc.org [mailto:yccc-admin@yccc.org] On Behalf Of
David
> Robbins
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 15:06
> To: YCCC
> Subject: [YCCC] so2r off the shelf?
>
>
> I hate to reinvent the wheel, don't have a lot of time to homebrew or
> put together kits, and don't know much about operating so2r besides
what
> I have seen from a few guest operators. But I am ready to buy the
stuff
> needed to make a better so2r setup option on my m/m station. I am
> looking to buy as much as possible, preferably including cables
already
> made up.
>
> The equipment would be:
> 2x ft-1000mp
> heil proset headset
> ct or na logging software
> dvp board for voice keying
> aea morsemachine or other external keyer(s)
> each band has its own coax coming in to the table
>
> What I am looking for are suggestions for 2 or 3 things:
> 1. a headset/keyer/mic/dvp switch with cables
> 2. a 6 antenna to 2 radio antenna switch with band decoder for each
> radio and control cables.
> 3. a 6 band 2 radio bandpass filter switch for between the radios and
> amps, or possibly two separate switched bandpass filters with cables
and
> decoder.
>
> Could one decoder run both the antenna switch and bandpass filter
> switch?
>
> What is available off the shelf to do this?
>
> What are the pro's and con's of different models that are available,
if
> there are choices?
>
> Is it better to run 1 computer or 2?? Why??
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>From dhenderson at arrl.org Sun Apr 21 10:28:48 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Log Checking Reports for ARRL SS
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B781B@KAHLESS>
Hey Guys:
Issuing the Log Checking Reports (since they are not UBNs ala CQ we are
referring to them as LCRs) is not an automated process. We will be
discussing the best way to make them available and will make an announcement
about it in the next few days. Please hold your requests for them - since
it may entail a separate email address. Thanks for yor patience and
understanding.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From k0rc at pclink.com Mon Apr 22 09:54:53 2002
From: k0rc@pclink.com (k0rc)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
References: <190402109.26373@webbox.com>
Message-ID: <10b601c1ea05$47e09080$25010bce@elite233>
Eric,
Bob, K3EST, will send you your password in a private email if you ask him.
Maybe the website will include a "password engine" in the future to
eliminate this administrative task. I would guess you and I are not the
only ones requesting a "fill" on their password.
73 de Bob - K0RC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Rosenberg" <wd3q@erols.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:19 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] How Can I Access the UBN Information
>
> When I received acknowledgement of the receipt of my CQWW logs,
> I was told I'd get a password to get to the UBN information.
>
>
> I may have gotten that email and subsequent information, but
> if I did, I no longer have it.
>
> How can I get it (again)?
>
> Eric W3DQ
> Washington DC
>
>
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>From phmonnard at bluewin.ch Sun Apr 21 15:26:32 2002
From: phmonnard@bluewin.ch (Philippe Monnard)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Helvetia 26 contest
Message-ID: <3CC2AFF8.6D93F63E@bluewin.ch>
Hello
Dont forget next week end 27 and 28 april 2002
The Helvetia 2002 contest
Start on 27 april 2002 at 1300 UTC until 28 april 2002 at 1300 UTC
ON 1.8 (cw only) - 3.5 - 7 - 14 - 21 - 28 MHz
CW/SSB
Contact with swiss station 3 points
Multi 1 by canton per band
Log must be sent until the 20 of may 2002
to : Hermann Stein HB9CRV
Br?elmatten 13
4410 Liestal
Switzerland
or by e-mail in ASCII format + summary sheet to: contest@uska.ch
You can find the complete rules http://www.uska.ch
see you in the contest
73's qro
Phil - HB9ARF
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sun Apr 21 11:37:31 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Reply Summary (to date)
Message-ID: <040101c1e942$348f3b80$03010a0a@office1>
Thanks to all who've replied to me on the FD Logging software question I
posed yesterday.
Examining the replies has been interesting.
In terms of raw numbers, the overwhelming number of responses have been in
favor of TRLog. Interestingly enough, most of these responses have come
from the TRLog reflector, NOT the CQ-Contest reflector... since one of the
replies to me was cross-posted.
Sticking solely to reponses from CQ-Contest, TRLog still had the most
favorable responses, with NA and CT both tied for a close second. But most
of the CT comments have not been ringing endorsements -- most have basically
told me that since I already own CT, might as well stick with it rather than
learn a new package. Also interesting comments there.
I'm still interested in further comments from anyone familiar with these
three packages. Meantime I'm going to have to hunt up copies of TRLog & NA
for comparison... a thought that still makes me shudder (several years ago,
I once asked a few questions about one of these on the Pa QSO Party
reflector and unexpectedly received a phone call from the distributor who
had been told I was ready to buy it!)
A few additional comments:
Several people have told me that networking the laptops for FD isn't worth
the aggravation. Actually, I agree, but I was asked to check into it. (
Don't shoot the messenger! )
Several others have had... interesting reactions to my comment regarding our
blind member. I've been called Politcally Correct ( please! ) for even
mentioning it; and prejuduced for not referring to him as "visually
impaired" instead of "blind." Must be doing something right if I'm ticking
off both sides of THAT nonsense. In any event, while I appreciate the
well-meant comments on alternatives to sticking to text-based software so
that Shawn's text-to-voice stuff would work... well, we don't work that way
here, sorry. He's a member of our club, he's a great operator, and a
reasonable request like this is not a burden, merely a small problem to be
solved. Sorry a few don't look at it that way, but that's life.
Besides, the alternative is that he'll cook again this year. (Think I'm
kidding? Go to http://doit.pgh.net/~wolfie/washrag.htm, pull up the July
2001 issue, and look at Page 7) Although a cross-state wedding kept me from
the club FD op last year, I hear that his burgers were first-rate...
73, ron wn3vaw
"There's No Crying in Baseball!"
-- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Sun Apr 21 14:05:31 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEILDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
W1MOO, 5A VT, will change from TR to Writelog this year.
6 node ethernet network....5 stations and a site-executive laptop.
Last year, TR's quirky use of memory cost us 50Q's and two key
hours of downtime on one cw station, when the bands were hot.
Ethernet vs. rs232c should improve rfi issues across the site.
Ease of setup of networked operation in Writelog will save us
setup and debug time.
And we've got a TR expert in our midst; although he gets to
sleep and go to church! So we're switching programs despite
his feelings for TR.
Last year's disaster happened during the sleep/church period,
of course. Thank you, Father Murphy! :)
Jim/N2EA
Message: 4
From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Reply Summary (to date)
Thanks to all who've replied to me on the FD Logging software question I
posed yesterday.
Jim Jarvis
Keithley Instruments
Essex Vermont
802 872 5830 voice
802 872 5831 fax
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Sun Apr 21 17:44:37 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ronald Rossi)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging
References: <025d01c1e8b9$4882a5c0$03010a0a@office1>
<003501c1e8bb$b192c980$ddcea1c6@ve6jy>
Message-ID: <3CC324B5.87DDC2AB@btv.ibm.com>
Even better yet is the free version will very likely be updated to the most
recent in time for FD!
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron (kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
VE6JY Don Moman wrote:
>
> TRlog would be (and is) my choice. It's especially suited to field day since
> it can run on a wide range of older machines and laptops and is very easy
> to network and interface to the radios (be sure you have enough serial
> ports - 2 per machine is handy. The intuitive use of the enter and
> escape keys make for easy learning and logging for a new user. All files are
> plain ascii txt so if you do have a problem with power or hd problems, it's
> a lot easier to "fix" or recover a corrupted text file than a bin type. TR
> is very bulletproof if you do have a power crash (who forgot to fuel the
> genny?) which is another plus. Support from the author, N6TR and the TRlog
> reflector is tops.
>
> As a bonus, the free sample version supports Field day.
> http://www.qth.com/tr/free.html
>
> 73 Don
> VE6JY
>From py2ny at arrl.net Sun Apr 21 19:02:42 2002
From: py2ny@arrl.net (PY2NY - Vitor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio 2002
Message-ID: <013801c1e978$13f2a160$6d14d2c8@asbyte.com.br>
Hello my friends - anybody can send me
in private, any information and home page
for Ham Radio 2002 in Germany? Including
some cities to visit around, and restaurants
or places to visit... Good hotels, anything
will be nice because my wife and me will
try to go there, this year...
Many thanks and see all of you in contest...
PY2NY - Vitor Luis Aidar dos Santos
Caixa Postal 204
Jaboticabal, SP - Brasil - 14870-970
Phone: (16) 97854218
E-mail: py2ny@arrl.net
>From mi2az05 at netscape.net Sun Apr 21 18:24:00 2002
From: mi2az05@netscape.net (mi2az05@netscape.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
Message-ID: <6FADC906.22E96578.001FB510@netscape.net>
I have been reading the posts on FD software and the networking issue. Am I
missing something, why are the computers being networked? No need for it at FD
is there? All you submit is a dupesheet. Just wondering why the importance of
networking at FD?
Barry
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>From k5zd at charter.net Sun Apr 21 23:23:55 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
In-Reply-To: <6FADC906.22E96578.001FB510@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDMEDGDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
It gives you the flexibility to use any station on any band. By having all
the computers networked, they all have the current log of stations worked
and won't have to waste time chasing dupes.
For operations where stations are dedicated to bands or modes, it is
probably better to avoid the hassle/issues of networking. Keep it simple!
K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of
> mi2az05@netscape.net
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 21:24 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
>
>
> I have been reading the posts on FD software and the networking
> issue. Am I missing something, why are the computers being
> networked? No need for it at FD is there? All you submit is a
> dupesheet. Just wondering why the importance of networking at FD?
>
> Barry
>
>
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sun Apr 21 20:26:34 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Software, Take 2
Message-ID: <076c01c1e98c$1bcd09c0$03010a0a@office1>
Murphy's Law has struck.
Talked with our blind amateur, about logging software today. Found out, to
my embarresment, that somewhere along the way, his saying that his software
could NOT handle a DOS logging program got changed around to where I was
told that his software could ONLY handle DOS. *sigh* Sorry about that.
Part of that came about because his stuff won't work with all Windows apps
either (this came up 2 years ago at the club Pa QSO Party operation, when we
found out his stuff wouldn't work with KA3JWE's logging program for the
'test.)
So... turns out I'm looking for a Windows-based logging program to use for
Field Day. New candidates include Win-EQF and N1MM's package. Any other
suggestions?
...yes, we're still thinking about Networking, too. Found out that last
year, someone went home for the night with their rig & laptop, and took the
20 Phone log with them. So the next op started working a bunch of dupes.
So it goes...
73, ron wn3vaw
"There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
probably."
--John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
>From TJCoker at lasd.org Sun Apr 21 17:58:37 2002
From: TJCoker@lasd.org (Coker, Timothy J)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Yaesu FT-1000D or Ft-1000 Mk V/Field for contesting?
Message-ID: <D418C6B4A038D611BF1900508B2CC5D91EBA89@1-CRDF-MAIL>
Hello, I am in the market for an upgraded radio for contest/dxing purposes.
I currently own a Kenwood TS-850SAT and would like to purchase a new or used
top of the line Yaesu to replace this radio with.
I have the choice of selecting between the following radios:
FT-1000D at a used price $2000-2300 with filters
FT-1000MP Mk V new
FT-1000MP Mk V Field new
I will be taking my radio to other ham shacks to guest op during contests as
I live in an apartment at this time. Occasionally I might want to lug along
a radio when staying in a cabin while camping. I mainly operate SSB but do
CW when handing out points in tests and when chasing DX. Computer
interfacing will be done with Writelog and DX4WIN software.
I'm leaning towards a 1000D based on the advice of a ham friend who I
consider very knowledgeable with various radio lines as he works in the
sales end of ham radio. I would love to hear any suggestions based on your
thoughts between these 3 radios. My emphasis is on contesting capabilities
using SSB and CW to lesser extent. Dxing comes 2nd in my operating habits as
a between contest activity.
Will I miss the DSP features introduced with the MP Mk V line? Or will the
"pinnacle of analogue technology" suffice just fine for contest operation?
The 200 watts output of the 1000D and Mk V seems great, but I'd just as
rather go legal limit if 100 watts doesn't work right off the bat, so I
don't think that the extra power is a huge issue when you've got a linear in
the shack. Any radio I buy will be loaded with filters, in the choice of the
Mark V series it will obviously bring the cost well over the "loaded, used
D"
Thanks a lot for anyone's opinions and thoughts, 73, Tim N6WIN.
>From k2wr at njdxa.org Mon Apr 22 00:25:53 2002
From: k2wr@njdxa.org (Rich K2WR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio 2002
References: <013801c1e978$13f2a160$6d14d2c8@asbyte.com.br>
Message-ID: <002401c1e9ad$68e90440$0200a8c0@5j08601>
Vitor (and others interested):
Friedrichshafen Messe (Convention Center):
http://www.messe-fn.de/fairs/ham_radio/index.php3
D.A.R.C. info page (in German):
http://home.t-online.de/home/sauter.up/darc/seiten/ham.htm
English:
http://www.darc.de/referate/ausland/foreign/exhibit.html
Portugese:
http://www.darc.de/referate/ausland/CT/aus-port.html
I went last year and had a great time. Making arrangements to go again this
year. Hope to see you there.
73, Rich K2WR
>From n2mg at contesting.com Mon Apr 22 06:19:06 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
Message-ID:
<20020422051908.11933.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Also,
1) The ability to chat (great for those overnight
hours when only the operators are awake and nobody's
sure that anyone is manning the generators as well as
for other less-serious reasons).
2) The entire operations' log is on all machines (good
for backup purposes).
3) Thanks to number 2, the convenience of seeing the
total score on any given machine.
73 Mike N2MG
On Sun, 21 April 2002, "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" wrote
>
> It gives you the flexibility to use any station on
any band. By having all
> the computers networked, they all have the current
log of stations worked
> and won't have to waste time chasing dupes.
>
> For operations where stations are dedicated to bands
or modes, it is
> probably better to avoid the hassle/issues of
networking. Keep it simple!
>
> K5ZD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of
> > mi2az05@netscape.net
> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 21:24 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
> >
> >
> > I have been reading the posts on FD software and
the networking
> > issue. Am I missing something, why are the
computers being
> > networked? No need for it at FD is there? All you
submit is a
> > dupesheet. Just wondering why the importance of
networking at FD?
> >
> > Barry
> >
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Mon Apr 22 04:16:23 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Reply Summary (to date)
References: <040101c1e942$348f3b80$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <000301c1ea01$ab6e8b60$012bfa43@computer>
Hi Ron
Go to the webe site ac6v.com tons on free ware there and NA is one of them.
The operation is basicly the same as CT and works on a DOS mach. or also on
win ME in a DOS window in ME or exit to DOS prompt is better.
I use it here for all contest and have no problems.
NO reason to LINK computers for FD other than to show it can be done. Hand
everyone a floppy and tell everyone to copy the whaateverfd.QDF to it post
FD take them home and do all the logs on your on computer.
Rex K7QQ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 15:37
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day Logging Reply Summary (to date)
> Thanks to all who've replied to me on the FD Logging software question I
> posed yesterday.
>
> Examining the replies has been interesting.
>
> In terms of raw numbers, the overwhelming number of responses have been in
> favor of TRLog. Interestingly enough, most of these responses have come
> from the TRLog reflector, NOT the CQ-Contest reflector... since one of the
> replies to me was cross-posted.
>
> Sticking solely to reponses from CQ-Contest, TRLog still had the most
> favorable responses, with NA and CT both tied for a close second. But
most
> of the CT comments have not been ringing endorsements -- most have
basically
> told me that since I already own CT, might as well stick with it rather
than
> learn a new package. Also interesting comments there.
>
> I'm still interested in further comments from anyone familiar with these
> three packages. Meantime I'm going to have to hunt up copies of TRLog &
NA
> for comparison... a thought that still makes me shudder (several years
ago,
> I once asked a few questions about one of these on the Pa QSO Party
> reflector and unexpectedly received a phone call from the distributor who
> had been told I was ready to buy it!)
>
> A few additional comments:
> Several people have told me that networking the laptops for FD isn't worth
> the aggravation. Actually, I agree, but I was asked to check into it. (
> Don't shoot the messenger! )
>
> Several others have had... interesting reactions to my comment regarding
our
> blind member. I've been called Politcally Correct ( please! ) for even
> mentioning it; and prejuduced for not referring to him as "visually
> impaired" instead of "blind." Must be doing something right if I'm
ticking
> off both sides of THAT nonsense. In any event, while I appreciate the
> well-meant comments on alternatives to sticking to text-based software so
> that Shawn's text-to-voice stuff would work... well, we don't work that
way
> here, sorry. He's a member of our club, he's a great operator, and a
> reasonable request like this is not a burden, merely a small problem to be
> solved. Sorry a few don't look at it that way, but that's life.
>
> Besides, the alternative is that he'll cook again this year. (Think I'm
> kidding? Go to http://doit.pgh.net/~wolfie/washrag.htm, pull up the July
> 2001 issue, and look at Page 7) Although a cross-state wedding kept me
from
> the club FD op last year, I hear that his burgers were first-rate...
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "There's No Crying in Baseball!"
> -- Jimmie Dugan, "A League of Their Own"
>
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>From ad1c at yahoo.com Mon Apr 22 08:15:16 2002
From: ad1c@yahoo.com (Jim Reisert)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
In-Reply-To:
<20020422051908.11933.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <20020422141516.77032.qmail@web13604.mail.yahoo.com>
--- Mike Gilmer - N2MG <n2mg@contesting.com> wrote:
> 1) The ability to
> 2) The entire operations' log is on all machines (good
> for backup purposes).
> 3) Thanks to number 2, the convenience of seeing the
> total score on any given machine.
And for us hard-core multi-op contesters, the ability to pass QSOs, i.e. "Hey,
we're also CQing on 21.245, look for us there right now!"
73 - Jim AD1C
=====
Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863
USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 22 08:06:50 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204221406.g3ME6oX27947@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
WX5S(@W6YX) 4553 1078 48 10,743,348 NCCC
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 48 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
NZ1U(@KB1H) 2207 896 34 5,264,896 YCCC
NT6K 2254 845 48 4,173,455 NCCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
N4WSM 260 209 146,091 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K6LRN 333 255 208,640 NCCC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ1U KB1DFB,KB1H,N1XS
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
YW4M DL2GG,YV2IF,YV3AZC,YV4FZM,YV4GLD,YV4GME,YV4YC,
YV5AMH,YV5EED,YV5IQJ,YV5IVB,YV5LMW
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 22 08:09:48 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
22Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204221409.g3ME9mr27956@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
YW4M 9455 1415 48 45,210,665
OT2A 9687 1523 37,950,114
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
VE7SCC 2120 0 48 4,406,904 Coquitlam Amateur Ra
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
P40V 6610 1251 48 25,617,978 NCCC
3V8BB 5868 1238 48 23,900,828 YU CC
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCF
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
VE7UQ 689 391 676,821
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 @12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCF
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
VP5V(W5AO) 4333 990 36 10,409,850 OkDX
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 542 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
ZD9IR 756 387 15 877,716
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
VE5SF 628 366 9 543,510
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
TM4K(F5BEG) 1040 547 1,346,714
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCF
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
Z33AA 928 501 1,122,240
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
VK4NEF 606 390 672,360
VE1ASJ 591 378 26 556,794
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
UT7QF 2334 929 35 4,825,226 UCC
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCF
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
YT1RA 1227 588 36 1,535,268 YU CC
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14.4 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 LP
4N1A(YU1EA) 154 121 38,115
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCF
YT9X(YZ1KA) 1346 629 36 1,697,042 YU CC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
PJ2H(W0CG) 1098 500 21 3,226,000 Caribbean Contesting
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ1U KB1DFB,KB1H,N1XS
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
YW4M DL2GG,YV2IF,YV3AZC,YV4FZM,YV4GLD,YV4GME,YV4YC,
YV5AMH,YV5EED,YV5IQJ,YV5IVB,YV5LMW
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 22 08:30:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] EU Sprint Sprints - CW/SSB 22Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020422072901.00a46650@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 EU Spring Sprint, CW - Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 5, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Paolo Cortese, I2UIY
PO Box 14
27043 Broni (PV)
Italy
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 148 4 148
M0TTT 136 4 136
LY2OX 132 132 LDXG
UY5ZZ 124 124 UCC
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
9A7P(9A6XX) 126 3:20 126 WWYC
I2WIJ 55 1 55
EI/G4BUO 32 1.2 32
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 22 08:15:52 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204221415.g3MEFqN27969@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 22Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: mqp@contesting.com
Mail logs to:
Mad River Radio Club
c/o Dave Pruett
2727 Harris Road
Ypsilanti, MI 48198
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
M/M HP
K8AA 302 560 102 89 11 222,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
Mobile LP
K5OT/M 205 77 51 32 40,421 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
Single Op HP
N9RV 145 89 58 37 6 36,005 SMC
K8DX 76 95 77 0 4 19,019 MRRC
VE7FO 38 16 25 12 5 3,404
VK2CZ 0 1 0 1 1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
Single Op LP
K8KHZ 74 311 39 90 12 59,211 Hazel Park ARC
K8SIA 185 120 56 51 7 52,430 MRRC
K7SV 166 100 64 42 11 45,792 PVRC
AD1C 157 49 72 31 10 37,389 YCCC
NY1S 118 45 63 23 11 24,116
KN4Y 150 0 73 0 12 21,900 FCG
N2CU 63 37 30 19 3 7,987 Western NY DX Assn
NF4A 52 32 32 15 6,392 FCG
WN6K 40 25 22 14 3,780 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Qs Ph QsCW MultsPh Mults hr Score Club
Single Op QRP
K3WW 82 19 47 14 6 11,163 FRC
Operators:
K8AA K8AA,KB8ECG,NU8Z
>From jimdstearns at msn.com Mon Apr 22 11:36:44 2002
From: jimdstearns@msn.com (Jim Stearns)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
In-Reply-To:
<20020422051908.11933.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <IPEKKPKNPHNBJJOEKHCLEENDCMAA.jimdstearns@msn.com>
Hello All,
Networking is great.....
However, it should be tested well in advance, startup scripts written, etc.
I've seen too many contesting hours missed do to the net going down and
people wanting you to re-boot, change drivers, NIC cards, etc.
We do not network but we do configure all our individual computers with a
bat file so if we get a pwr surge, lightning shut downs, etc. the Op can
just type the name of the .bat file and he is back on the air.
GL in the contest.
73
* Jim, W4MGM
* Member Woodbridge Wireless, Inc., ARC
* Est. 1972
* See WWI Homepage for Membership Information and Events
* WWW.WoodbridgeWireless.Org
* "Radio Amateurs in Community Action"
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Mike Gilmer - N2MG
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 8:19 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
Also,
1) The ability to chat (great for those overnight
hours when only the operators are awake and nobody's
sure that anyone is manning the generators as well as
for other less-serious reasons).
2) The entire operations' log is on all machines (good
for backup purposes).
3) Thanks to number 2, the convenience of seeing the
total score on any given machine.
73 Mike N2MG
On Sun, 21 April 2002, "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" wrote
>
> It gives you the flexibility to use any station on
any band. By having all
> the computers networked, they all have the current
log of stations worked
> and won't have to waste time chasing dupes.
>
> For operations where stations are dedicated to bands
or modes, it is
> probably better to avoid the hassle/issues of
networking. Keep it simple!
>
> K5ZD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of
> > mi2az05@netscape.net
> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 21:24 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
> >
> >
> > I have been reading the posts on FD software and
the networking
> > issue. Am I missing something, why are the
computers being
> > networked? No need for it at FD is there? All you
submit is a
> > dupesheet. Just wondering why the importance of
networking at FD?
> >
> > Barry
> >
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>From n2mg at contesting.com Mon Apr 22 08:45:26 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
Message-ID:
<20020422074526.14896.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Mon, 22 April 2002, "Jim Stearns" wrote
> we do configure all our individual computers with a
> bat file so if we get a pwr surge, lightning shut
> downs, etc. the Op can just type the name of
> the .bat file and he is back on the air.
I do this for ALL contests. I have contest-specific
batch files (with useful names, like CQWWCW01.bat)
that are usually based on last year's setup. These
load the TSRs, have the right command-line stuff,
whatever... but, perhaps more importantly, I have
another one called GO.BAT that calls the contest-
specific one. All I ever need to do in the event of a
crash is type "GO".
73,
Mike
n2mg@contesting.com
________________________________________________
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http://www.peoplepc.com
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Mon Apr 22 16:45:13 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Software and Networking?
In-Reply-To:
<20020422074526.14896.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <000901c1ea14$b2160e80$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
> > we do configure all our individual computers with a
> > bat file so if we get a pwr surge, lightning shut
> > downs, etc. the Op can just type the name of
> > the .bat file and he is back on the air.
>
> I do this for ALL contests. I have contest-specific
> batch files (with useful names, like CQWWCW01.bat)
> that are usually based on last year's setup. These
> load the TSRs, have the right command-line stuff,
> whatever... but, perhaps more importantly, I have
> another one called GO.BAT that calls the contest-
> specific one. All I ever need to do in the event of a
> crash is type "GO".
>
ok, now take that one more step... at the end of the autoexec.bat add
two lines:
pause
go
and when you reboot the op gets the prompt 'press any key...' and when
he does the log starts automatically. You use ctrl-break to bypass it
when needed.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Mon Apr 22 13:11:20 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ron D. Rossi)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEILDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <200204221611.MAA27056@johnpaul.btv.ibm.com>
>>>"jljarvis" said:
>
> W1MOO, 5A VT, will change from TR to Writelog this year.
> 6 node ethernet network....5 stations and a site-executive laptop.
Same setup as TR.
>
> Last year, TR's quirky use of memory cost us 50Q's and two key
> hours of downtime on one cw station, when the bands were hot.
Jim the year before it was because all the power save features were not turned
off on the laptop. Last year we might have lost 50Qs, but it was because the
CW tent "HAD" to run on windows laptops with all kinds of extra stuff. Booting
it back up required the owner to be there to have it done correctly. The
bottom line though is you cannot turn off a networked computer when you go
home for the night!! The other machines were "clean boots" and worked fine
(nor were they turned off!!).
>
> Ethernet vs. rs232c should improve rfi issues across the site.
There were no RFI issues. In general ethernet has great capabilities, but with
increased complexity.
>
> Ease of setup of networked operation in Writelog will save us
> setup and debug time.
To be fair it "might" save us time. We don't know that yet, since it is the
first year. Last year it was <1 hour including running cables from no
computers to having all five booted and talking to each other (up to 200'
distance between CPUs).
>
> And we've got a TR expert in our midst; although he gets to
> sleep and go to church! So we're switching programs despite
> his feelings for TR.
It will free me up!! Now someone else gets to be slaved to the network =:-)
>
> Last year's disaster happened during the sleep/church period,
> of course. Thank you, Father Murphy! :)
Bless you my son!
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron rossi(kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From nat at ajheatwole.com Mon Apr 22 14:29:24 2002
From: nat@ajheatwole.com (Nat Heatwole)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Thank You WJ9B!
References:
<20020422074526.14896.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <008b01c1ea23$3f8329c0$6ec214ac@guilford.edu>
Fellow Contesters,
I'm currently going to school at Guilford College in Greensboro, NC. I
was walking to class one day last semester and I noticed a HF tribander
on a building on campus. My later inquiries about the antenna led me to
Physics professor Rex Adelberger. Through Rex I learned that the antenna
is a Mosley CL-36-M and that it is attached to a station with two linear
amps and two HF radios. I also learned that there have been several ham
clubs at Guilford in the past and Rex agreed to be the faculty advisor
to another if I could get a club established.
I don't think I've ever seen a station in greater disarray but in the
months that followed I set about rebuilding it. But I soon hit an
obstacle. All of the students at Guilford are stuck in the satellite TV,
cell phone, Internet, DVD, computer, PDA era. In other words, bulky
analog gear that's 30-40 years old, is not computer controllable, and
that can't work RTTY/PSK would not attract sufficient interest for a
club. I sent messages to the PVRC and CQ-Contest reflectors begging for
donations of newer gear but to my dismay I got *NO* offers.
Later, Carl Willis, KF4KIG (the only other known licensed ham at
Guilford) dragged me to the Raleigh Hamfest. I have been a member of
PVRC for years and PVRC-NC had a booth there so I stopped by to meet
some of the NC crowd. One of them was Will, WJ9B, a professor at
UNC-Greensboro, which is just down the street from Guilford. The day
after the hamfest Will e-mailed me and offered to donate some gear in
exchange for a tax deduction. A few days later he arrived at Guilford
wielding an Omni C and an Argonaut II. While the Omni C is a step down
from computer control it is ten steps up from the rigs currently there.
The fair market value of this donation was $1150(!).
This was the inertia we needed. I am more confident now than I have been
at any other time that a working station and functioning club will be
present on campus very soon, hopefully soon enough to get the station on
the air for SS (go PVRC!). I would like to publically extend my personal
thanks to Will, WJ9B. He is a fine individual, a great friend, and an A1
ham. He could have gotten more money had he chosen to sell these rigs on
the open market but he instead decided to donate them. Fine business! He
did not ask that I send this thank you; it's an expression of how truly
grateful I am.
I know his generosity is paralleled in the contesting community and I
hope that others will follow in his footsteps. If anyone reading this
can donate money or equipment of any magnitude to our efforts it would
be *GREATLY* appreciated and I can arrange all of the specifics for a
tax deduction. Please e-mail me if you can help in any way. Thanks
again, Will! Hopefully you are the first of many.
73, Nat, WZ3AR
<nat@ajheatwole.com>
>From w7zr at citlink.net Mon Apr 22 11:37:47 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <015701c1ea24$6cd00960$35d1fea9@N1>
How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
Most recent WPX SSB
SO AB (A) HP
NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the fact that
he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R is not a
separate classification.
I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a current
class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but unfortunetly
I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
Dick W7ZR
Price Reduced!!
Vacation or Retire Here
It's Paradise on the Beach
www.w7zr.com
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Mon Apr 22 19:16:27 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Are you a WPX Plaque Sponsor?
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020422171627.012e77ac@pop.vnet.net>
Today I received my plaque for the 2000 CQ WPX SSB which I only
decided to sponsor last June...AFTER the 2000 results were published
(since it represented the new USA record for SOSB10). Steve N8BJQ is
doing a great job of almost SINGLE-HANDEDLY managing both WPX contests
which are nearly as popular worldwide as the CQ WW (which has far more
volunteer support with nearly two dozen Committee Members and 17 DX
Advisors). I am sure he puts in a huge number of hours collecting logs,
analyzing them, preparing the results/stories, responding to UBN requests,
keeping worldwide records up-to-date, preparing certificate lists for CQ
(who actually mails all certificates) and managing the plaques (donors and
recipients). There is NO other major DX contest that has only ONE person
doing what Steve does and NO other major DX contest that provides complete
world records concurrent with published results. Given all of this, I am
always amazed at how reponsive Steve is to any request from me!
Kudos to Steve for a thankless job! Maybe a little less griping
and a little more volunteering to help is in order from some of us.
73, Bill W4ZV
P.S. On top of WPX, Steve is also one of the CQ WW Committe Members!
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Mon Apr 22 15:24:56 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] TR vs. WL
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHGEJMDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
I need to clarify something....regarding my TR vs. WriteLog post,
and W1MOO Field Day. KK1L, our TR maven, observed that the networking
issues were identical for either program...and he's right.
Beyond that, I offer the following quotation:
?Last year we might have lost 50Qs, but it was because the CW tent "HAD"
to run on windows laptops with all kinds of extra stuff. Booting
it back up required the owner to be there to have it done correctly. The
bottom line though is you cannot turn off a networked computer when you go
home for the night!! The other machines were "clean boots" and worked fine
(nor were they turned off!!)."
Ron is CORRECT; I stand chastened. TR is a slick program. I own it, as
well as Writelog. At the root of it, I guess, is whether one is a windows
nazi or not. (This is the point at which Linux fans should jump in...)
I personally don?t care what program is running, so long as there are
stick-on labels on the FN keys. My sense is, WL may be easier to implement
the network connection than TR, for the uninitiated or casual user. Once
one is proficient in TR?s setup, I believe it?s essentially a wash.
In rethinking last year?s problem...Ron is absolutely right. It WAS
specifically due to one laptop, which had gone into screen blanked,
system sleep mode....where a casual visitor couldn?t tell if it was
sleeping or powered off. Hitting the power switch didn?t wake it up...
it turned it off. The other laptop in that tent was in the sleep mode,
but hitting its power switch DID wake it up.
Message: set all computers power control options to ?never?...and keep the
power on, if you?re going to network.
73, Jim, n2ea
>From n2mg at contesting.com Mon Apr 22 13:21:50 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
Message-ID:
<20020422122152.17715.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
My one, weekend-long, experience with Writelog (we had
another nickname for it) was in a fully networked,
6-station, multi-multi environment and was less than
thrilling. Most PCs locked up at various times, and,
after rebooting, were, as often as not, invisible to
the network no matter what we tried. After a half-
hour or an hour (or two), poof!, they would simply
reappear on the network. Magic! There were many
things about Writelog that I liked. Its networking
reliability was not one of them.
Anyway, another "good" reason for networking at field
day is the gee-whiz attraction of which most hams are
guilty. That is, assuming one can get it going and
keep it going...
73 Mike N2MG
On Mon, 22 April 2002, "Ron D. Rossi" wrote
>
> >>>"jljarvis" said:
> >
> > Ease of setup of networked operation in Writelog
will save us
> > setup and debug time.
>
> To be fair it "might" save us time. We don't know
that yet, since it is the
> first year. Last year it was <1 hour including
running cables from no
> computers to having all five booted and talking to
each other (up to 200'
> distance between CPUs).
>
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>From k0hb at earthlink.net Mon Apr 22 20:42:54 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?Windows-1252?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PC control of Yaesu G-1000DXA rotor?
Message-ID: <016101c1ea2d$85606700$4517be3f@bigguy>
I have a Yaesu G-1000DXA antenna rotor. This rotor can be come under PC control
(CT, and other logging programs) with addition of a GS-232A adapter. I'm not
sure what's inside that gadget, but it costs $540, about the cost of the rest of
the rotor itself. Has anyone here homebrewed up a replacement for this thing?
Care to share your schematic and code?
(???) 73, de Hans, K0HB
--
"If people concentrated on the really important things
of life, there'd be a shortage of fishing rods and Vibroplex
keys."
>From rthorne at tcac.net Mon Apr 22 15:44:19 2002
From: rthorne@tcac.net (Richard Thorne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [Yaesu] PC control of Yaesu G-1000DXA rotor?
References: <016101c1ea2d$85606700$4517be3f@bigguy>
Message-ID: <3CC46813.D64B85DF@tcac.net>
Hans:
Go to: http://idiompress.com/ They have a board that will work for $149.95.
It
emulates the Hygain DCU-1. So if your software supports the DCU-1, it should
handle
this card.
The normal waivers apply, i.e. I have no financial interest etc. etc........
K?HB wrote:
> I have a Yaesu G-1000DXA antenna rotor. This rotor can be come under PC
> control
> (CT, and other logging programs) with addition of a GS-232A adapter. I'm not
> sure what's inside that gadget, but it costs $540, about the cost of the rest
> of
> the rotor itself. Has anyone here homebrewed up a replacement for this thing?
> Care to share your schematic and code?
>
> (???) 73, de Hans, K0HB
>
> --
> "If people concentrated on the really important things
> of life, there'd be a shortage of fishing rods and Vibroplex
> keys."
>
> _______________________________________________
> Yaesu mailing list
> Yaesu@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/yaesu
--
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Advo Companies, Inc.
806-342-0600
>From k1ir at designet.com Mon Apr 22 18:23:28 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
Message-ID: <gp4ct8clw31qm88.220420021723@designet-jsi>
Mike,
Your story about WriteLog isn't what we experience here in our multi-single
operations. Once we get the Windows networking configured right, we never have
a problem getting a machine back on line after a problem. We have had some
occassional system hangs, but getting the machine back up is really easy, and
the log syncs up immediately. It is totally cool to have all four logs reliably
identical at the end of the contest.
73,
Jim
[CQ-Contest] FD logging program
Mike Gilmer - N2MG n2mg@contesting.com
Mon, 22 Apr 2002 12:21:50 -0700 (PDT)
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My one, weekend-long, experience with Writelog (we had
another nickname for it) was in a fully networked,
6-station, multi-multi environment and was less than
thrilling. Most PCs locked up at various times, and,
after rebooting, were, as often as not, invisible to
the network no matter what we tried. After a half-
hour or an hour (or two), poof!, they would simply
reappear on the network. Magic! There were many
things about Writelog that I liked. Its networking
reliability was not one of them.
Anyway, another "good" reason for networking at field
day is the gee-whiz attraction of which most hams are
guilty. That is, assuming one can get it going and
keep it going...
73 Mike N2MG
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Apr 22 20:19:04 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
Message-ID: <00db01c1ea54$182c6680$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Five days until the Florida QSO Party - hopefully we will get some better
conditions than our friends in Michigan and Ontario had this past weekend.
In case you haven't gone yet - check out the FQP website:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
All 67 counties should be activated by at least one and possibly two or
three more stations depending on traffic. Sweeps should be possible once
again...who will be the first?
GL!
The Florida Contest Group
Sponsors of The Florida QSO Party
(sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
away - K4OJ)
>From k5zd at charter.net Tue Apr 23 02:20:03 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <015701c1ea24$6cd00960$35d1fea9@N1>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEDPDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
I suspect if NV4X was SO1R he would have *only* had about 2800 x 950 for
7.0M...
More variables here than you can see in the score listings.
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Richard Zalewski
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 17:38 PM
> To: cq-contest
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>
> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
>
> Most recent WPX SSB
>
> SO AB (A) HP
>
> NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
>
> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> fact that
> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that
> SO2R is not a
> separate classification.
>
> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in
> a current
> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> unfortunetly
> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
>
> Dick W7ZR
>
> Price Reduced!!
> Vacation or Retire Here
> It's Paradise on the Beach
> www.w7zr.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From n6ki at juno.com Mon Apr 22 22:55:04 2002
From: n6ki@juno.com (Dennis Vernacchia)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Dick,
I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
advantage.
I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
will seee that the
top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
that is
due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
Bottom line, just list it in results.
73, Dennis N6KI
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
writes:
> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
>
> Most recent WPX SSB
>
> SO AB (A) HP
>
> NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
>
> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> fact that
> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> is not a
> separate classification.
>
> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> current
> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> unfortunetly
> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
>
> Dick W7ZR
>
> Price Reduced!!
> Vacation or Retire Here
> It's Paradise on the Beach
> www.w7zr.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
73,
Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
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>From k8do at amethyst.diamondcs.net Tue Apr 23 09:53:52 2002
From: k8do@amethyst.diamondcs.net (Dennis O'Connor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
References:
<20020422122152.17715.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <005101c1eac5$f0b7d180$1d996c40@gq7mb01>
My experience has been with CT and TRLog... I have found that TRLog, run on
a dos machine (any version from 2.0 onwards to 5.0, not windoze faking it)
and networked off the 232 port is absolutely bulletproof...
An additional advantage is that the DOS autoexec.bat file can simply have
the name of the current contest inserted as the last line and whenever you
get a power interruption the machine simply reboots directly into the
contest without the operator doing anything except yelling at whoever is
responsible for power, "what happened to the !@#$%^&* power, dammit?"...
While all the computers are loaded with windoze on the harddrive, we simply
pop a DOS boot disc in the A: drive that loads DOS (3.3 in my case) when
the machine is powered up... When the contest is over the floppy is popped
out of the A: drive and the machine reverts to windoze automatically...
Denny
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] FD logging program
> My one, weekend-long, experience with Writelog (we had
> another nickname for it) was in a fully networked,
> 6-station, multi-multi environment and was less than
> thrilling. Most PCs locked up at various times, and,
> after rebooting, were, as often as not, invisible to
> the network no matter what we tried. After a half-
> hour or an hour (or two), poof!, they would simply
> reappear on the network. Magic! There were many
> things about Writelog that I liked. Its networking
> reliability was not one of them.
>
> Anyway, another "good" reason for networking at field
> day is the gee-whiz attraction of which most hams are
> guilty. That is, assuming one can get it going and
> keep it going...
>
> 73 Mike N2MG
>
>
> On Mon, 22 April 2002, "Ron D. Rossi" wrote
>
> >
> > >>>"jljarvis" said:
> > >
> > > Ease of setup of networked operation in Writelog
> will save us
> > > setup and debug time.
> >
> > To be fair it "might" save us time. We don't know
> that yet, since it is the
> > first year. Last year it was <1 hour including
> running cables from no
> > computers to having all five booted and talking to
> each other (up to 200'
> > distance between CPUs).
> >
>
> ________________________________________________
> PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
> http://www.peoplepc.com
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From dave at egh.com Tue Apr 23 10:17:13 2002
From: dave@egh.com (David Clemons)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: FQP minus 5
Message-ID: <00A0CE30.1E6D45B6.33@egh.com>
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the FQP reminder, it's easy to forget the FQP is
coming up this time of year. :-)
Is it true that the FQP has new a logchecking software package
called CHAD?
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
>From dhenderson at arrl.org Tue Apr 23 10:36:25 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL International DX CW Contest Logs Received posted
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B786D@KAHLESS>
The list of Logs Received for the 2002 ARRL International DX CW Contest has
been posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
If you find an error in your listing, please have your Cabrillo log file and
receipt number available when you contact me at 860-594-0232 or by email at
contests@arrl.org
If your entry is missing, please contact me at the above numbers. Logs
received after the deadline for submission, received with an invalid format
or with missing information may be re-classified as Checklogs.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From 9a3a at spidernet.com.cy Tue Apr 23 15:01:21 2002
From: 9a3a@spidernet.com.cy (Ivo PEZER, 5B4ADA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Message-ID: <006e01c1eab6$349aeb40$b6949ac2@spidernet.net>
Unfortunatelly, our hoby of contesting is far from being equal to all
participants.
SO2R is just one of the latest developements that have caused many concerns.
But, maybe one can look at SO2R from other perspective. In my case, I've
upgraded to SO2R because I have no space for multiple towers and multiple
stacks. With SO2R I at least have better chance to increase my score using
single yagi antennas on 46 ft roof mounted tower.
I would, however, trade SO2R for multiple tower/stack station with fully
automatic amplifier if that was possible... but what about SO2R's with
multiple tower/stack/amp etc. station....
It's never ending story, I guess.
73 and enjoy contesting.
Ivo 5B4ADA/C4A
>
> I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
> the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
> That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
> will seee that the
> top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
> that is
> due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
>
> Bottom line, just list it in results.
>
> 73, Dennis N6KI
>
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
> writes:
> > How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >
> > Most recent WPX SSB
> >
> > SO AB (A) HP
> >
> > NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> >
> > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> > fact that
> > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> > is not a
> > separate classification.
> >
> > I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> > current
> > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> > unfortunetly
> > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >
> > Dick W7ZR
>From w2up at mindspring.com Tue Apr 23 11:14:48 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Message-ID: <E17014E-0005OT-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
Dennis,
I added a second radio a few years ago to improve my
competiveness (and fun!) as a single-op, or SOA. Now that some
single ops have found a way to improve their scores within the rules
you want to change those rules. Is that fair? I've already spent my
time, effort and money on the second radio setup. BTW, I do it all
with a one tower station, so don't tell me you need major real
estate, mltiple towers, megabucks, etc. That argument doesn't fly.
Using your logic, multi-single should be split into more than one
category. There's MO1R - a bunch of guys time-sharing one radio.
MO2R - a bunch of guys sharing 2 radios, where one is a run radio
and the other is a mult radio. MOMR - a bunch of guys sharing
what should be a multi-multi, where one guy runs, and 3 or 4 other
guys tune the bands chasing mults watching 10 minute timers,
etc.
And how about breaking down multi-multi? There are the
"professional" stations like LPL, XX, JA where guys fly in from all
over the world to operate. On the other hand, there are stations like
K3ANS and W3PP that are less "refined" and encourage newbies
to operate to gain experience.
Better yet, let's let everyone have their own category and decide
who they want to compete with.
73,
Barry W2UP
On 22 Apr 02, at 21:55, Dennis Vernacchia wrote:
> Dick,
>
> I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
> suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that already
> run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the advantage.
>
> I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on the
> reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
> That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and
> you will seee that the top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an
> SO2R station gets beat but that is due to other factors like a poor Op
> or lack of good equipment/antennas.
>
> Bottom line, just list it in results.
>
> 73, Dennis N6KI
>
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski"
> <w7zr@citlink.net> writes: > How about considering this regarding SO2R
> as a separate class. > > Most recent WPX SSB > > SO AB (A) HP > > NV4X
> 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS
> 2.78M > > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X
> or the > fact that > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep
> telling me that SO2R > is not a > separate classification. > > I sure
> would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a > current
> > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but >
> unfortunetly > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts. > > Dick W7ZR > >
> Price Reduced!! > Vacation or Retire Here > It's Paradise on the Beach
> > www.w7zr.com > > _______________________________________________ >
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>
> 73,
>
> Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
>
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>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Tue Apr 23 14:43:44 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
In-Reply-To: <200204231306.g3ND6L9F026807@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020423134138.00d30c80@pop.pacific.net.hk>
K4OJ concluded with:
>(sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
>away - K4OJ)
Yeah, right. That's when we start seeing "364 days until FQP!" posts if memory
serves me correctly.
;^)
73, BW2/VR2BrettGraham
>From thompson at mindspring.com Tue Apr 23 11:47:30 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R another class??
Message-ID: <006301c1ead5$cc482ba0$d04b56d1@default>
I don't think so. Years ago we used a separate receiver to be able to
listen on two frequencies at once.
Then when transceivers came along with broad band so there was no tuning we
could switch between
the VFO's and good ops found that they could hold a frequency while using
the other VFO to tune around the band. My old Yaesu even let me have the
other VFO on another band.
The only difference with SO2R is having two rigs rather than two VFO's. The
next step in complexity is to have each hooked to different antennas and
amps. I agree with K5ZD's assumption of perhaps 80 less QSO's without SO2R.
Since SO2R have no access to packet or web spots then those operating as
assisted can make better use of SO2R.
I have writelog running and also have web summit so assisted SO2R (mine is
limited to one antenna/amp altho I can switch antennas). I find that I can
work 4 or 5 mults or others in a test hour.
I don't feel this would hold up for the entire contest. 60 to 80 out of
2880 is quite reasonable for SO no 2R.
While I am at it I don't think the tri-bander single wire is much worse than
tri-bander shorty 2 el 40.
Those of us with one tower think one tower is a better representation if one
is needed at all.
Dave K4JRB
>From kk4ta at strato.net Tue Apr 23 13:56:32 2002
From: kk4ta@strato.net (Tom and Adela)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: FQP minus 5
In-Reply-To: <00A0CE30.1E6D45B6.33@egh.com>
Message-ID: <BIEGKCDKMCJPDIEONEMJIEHACCAA.kk4ta@strato.net>
The acronym stands for "Can't Have Any Dupes"
Tom
KK4TA
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@CONTESTING.COM
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@CONTESTING.COM]On Behalf Of David Clemons
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 9:17 AM
To: CQ-CONTEST@CONTESTING.COM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: FQP minus 5
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the FQP reminder, it's easy to forget the FQP is
coming up this time of year. :-)
Is it true that the FQP has new a logchecking software package
called CHAD?
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
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>From no5w at txucom.net Tue Apr 23 13:11:43 2002
From: no5w@txucom.net (Charles Sanders)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
In-Reply-To: <00db01c1ea54$182c6680$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <000001c1eae9$f1c58da0$6401a8c0@EMOCSANDER>
Jim --
The Michigan group posted routes for the mobiles just prior to the test.
Will that be done for FQP? Good to see all of that orange on the website.
CU this weekend hopefully with better conditions than the MiQP.
73/Chuck/NO5W
>>Five days until the Florida QSO Party - hopefully we will get some better
>>conditions than our friends in Michigan and Ontario had this past weekend.
>>(sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
>>away - K4OJ)
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>From snichols at mvosprey.com Tue Apr 23 15:03:40 2002
From: snichols@mvosprey.com (Scott Nichols)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
References: <00db01c1ea54$182c6680$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <3CC593EC.7A011F57@mvosprey.com>
Hats off to the organizers of the FQP...I just received my certificate from
last year and a well done summary pamphlet of what happened, results, info
etc...Good work...
73, Scott VE1OP
Jim White wrote:
> Five days until the Florida QSO Party - hopefully we will get some better
> conditions than our friends in Michigan and Ontario had this past weekend.
>
> In case you haven't gone yet - check out the FQP website:
>
> http://www.qsl.net/fqp
>
> All 67 counties should be activated by at least one and possibly two or
> three more stations depending on traffic. Sweeps should be possible once
> again...who will be the first?
>
> GL!
>
> The Florida Contest Group
> Sponsors of The Florida QSO Party
>
> (sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
> away - K4OJ)
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>From ken.claerbout at equant.com Tue Apr 23 14:27:10 2002
From: ken.claerbout@equant.com (ken.claerbout@equant.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <OF9E121321.7BEF5D74-ON85256BA4.004C4B66@domino.globalone.net>
At the risk of beating a horse that has assumed room temperature a long
time ago, Randy (K5ZD) is absolutely right. There are far more variables
involved than just SO1R vs SO2R.
Do we also start separate listings for those who have a single yagi as
opposed to a stack of two or three? They certainly have an advantage. Two
or three towers are certainly better than one. What do we do there? How
about those who use something like a 1000MP with dual VFO's as opposed to a
transceiver with a single VFO? Yes the playing field is not level and it
never will be completely.
I look back at my situation several years ago. I wanted to be
competitive with guys in the Top Ten. SO2R was just one piece of the
overall puzzle. K3ZO was beating me rather consistently on 15 meters.
Rather than suggest we place people with 8 element yagis at 160 feet in a
different category, I upgraded my 15 meter antenna system within the
confines of my available real estate (1 acre) and financial ability. To
me, that's what contesting is about.
If you choose not to operate SO2R for whatever reason, that's fine. It
doesn't however, make an argument to sub-divide the Single Operator
category anymore than it does for some of the other so called advantages
noted above (single yagi vs stacks, etc.).
73
Ken K4ZW
Dick,
I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
advantage.
I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
will seee that the
top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
that is
due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
Bottom line, just list it in results.
73, Dennis N6KI
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
writes:
> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
>
> Most recent WPX SSB
>
> SO AB (A) HP
>
> NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
>
> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> fact that
> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> is not a
> separate classification.
>
> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> current
> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> unfortunetly
> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
>
> Dick W7ZR
>
> Price Reduced!!
> Vacation or Retire Here
> It's Paradise on the Beach
> www.w7zr.com
>
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>From w0uo at cs.com Tue Apr 23 14:46:09 2002
From: w0uo@cs.com (w0uo@cs.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <2091E0D4.66C90F65.00004183@cs.com>
Contesters:
Dennis' suggestion is right on.
The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to include it in
contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage exists within
just a few months.
If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect between SO2R
and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two major
contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year to require
stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. If SO2R is the cause of
an advantage, one would expect the advantage to either be substantially
decreased or disappear in the second year.
Sound like a fair test?
7i3 de Jim
W0UO/5
Dennis Vernacchia <n6ki@juno.com> wrote:
>Dick,
>
> ? ? ? ? I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
>suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
>already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
>advantage.
> ? ? ? ?
> ? ? ? ?I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
>the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
>That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
>will seee that the
>top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
>that is
>due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
>
>Bottom line, just list it in results.
>
>73, Dennis ?N6KI
>
>On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
>writes:
>> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
>>
>> Most recent WPX SSB
>>
>> SO AB (A) HP
>>
>> NV4X ? ?2880 Q ?960 PFX ?33 HRS ?7.58M
>> WZ7ZR 1836 Q ?749 PFX ?32 HRS ?2.78M
>>
>> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
>> fact that
>> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
>> is not a
>> separate classification.
>>
>> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
>> current
>> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. ?I would do it but
>> unfortunetly
>> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
>>
>> Dick W7ZR
>>
>> Price Reduced!!
>> Vacation or Retire Here
>> It's Paradise on the Beach
>> www.w7zr.com
>>
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>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>>
>
>
>73,
>
>Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
>
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>From kr6x at kr6x.com Tue Apr 23 11:48:43 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEDPDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Message-ID: <001a01c1eaef$202dcb80$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
In the world of computers the ubiquitous use of "TLA's" has
been dominating the ideology of descriptive language for
many years. Of course, "TLA's" stands for "three letter
abbreviations". The theory goes like this: if something isn't
important enough to be abbreviated until only the people to
which it is important can understand it, then it's insignificant.
Having personally pioneered the use of two transceivers at
W6HX over 30 years ago (no, I don't pretend to have been
the first contester to do this, only that I wandered into the
frontier unassisted), I knew when the TLA "SO2R" came
into widespread use that numerous competitors who had
previously considered the practice insignificant would
henceforth and forever after see "SO2R" as being somehow
fundamentally different from single transceiver operation.
Oh, yes, I realize that "SO2R" isn't 3 letters, it's 3 letters and
a number. Right. Sure, I'll be getting flamed on the list for
that. But many "TLA's" aren't really three letters. Consider
"MM" for "multi-operator, multi-transmitter", "MOST" or
"MS" for "multi-operator, single transmitter", and "M2" for
"multi-operator two transmitter". Those are categories, aren't
they?
It's funny that the more important issues in the competitive
position that contesters can attain aren't given the important
attention that they deserve. Oh, sure, one contest now has
a tribander and dipoles category that you can actually enter,
and there is even a category for inexperienced operators
somewhere in the immense structure for contests. But these
divisions in the contest world can never separate us quite
adequately until we have "TLA's" for each of them. I'm
sure that everyone will agree that we need some additional
"TLA's" to describe every facet of top notch competition
that separates us from reaching the top rungs of the contest.
Both the "good" and the "bad" issues require "TLA's".
For instance:
W5WMU's station has numerous towers. While most of
the operators in the November SS have dipoles on 40 and
80 meters, they often don't realize that a station like
W5WMU can have upwards of 6 full sized 40 meter beams
of 3 elements or greater - two stacked 3 elements pointed
at the Eastern seaboard, two pointed at the mid-west, and
two pointed at California. And, with one of the world's top
CW operators (N6TR) running SO2R you'd think a station
like that would always come out on top.
But NO!
WP3R always comes out on top. We need a "TLA" and a
separate entry category for WP3R. I'm going to suggest
"WP3R".
Here are a few more suggestions, and I hope I'm not the
only guy on the reflector who has ideas on this matter:
PN - Pencil Nightmare - enters every contest without
computer logging
PPC - Pirate's his Packet Callsign - Why do guys log
onto the internet/packet spotting nets with an inactive
operator's call during contests instead of their own?
TBD - Tri-Bander and Dipole? No! Tower Blew Down!
SSF - Single Sideband Filter only, no narrow CW filter
OF2R - Occupies run Frequency silently while chasing
multipliers on the second station - this can be a single
operator or a multi-operator multi-transmitter habit
HC - Happy Camper - MM station who, at 0000z, starts
calling "CQ contest" on 21,251 USB with 4 stacked
7 element yagis pointing at Europe and remains there
continuously for the next 48 hours. Implies OF2R.
TMC - Too Many Computers - No, these are the
neighbor's computers and television sets that put out
terrible RF radiation on all bands
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
To: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>; "cq-contest"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 18:20
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> I suspect if NV4X was SO1R he would have *only* had about 2800 x 950 for
> 7.0M...
>
> More variables here than you can see in the score listings.
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Richard Zalewski
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 17:38 PM
> > To: cq-contest
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> >
> >
> > How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >
> > Most recent WPX SSB
> >
> > SO AB (A) HP
> >
> > NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> >
> > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> > fact that
> > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that
> > SO2R is not a
> > separate classification.
> >
> > I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in
> > a current
> > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> > unfortunetly
> > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >
> > Dick W7ZR
> >
> > Price Reduced!!
> > Vacation or Retire Here
> > It's Paradise on the Beach
> > www.w7zr.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
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>From dhenderson at arrl.org Tue Apr 23 15:07:44 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL January VHF Sweepstakes Logs Received
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC035B7889@KAHLESS>
The list of Logs Received for the 2002 ARRL January VHF Sweepstakes has been
posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
If you find an error in your listing, please contact me at contests@arrl.org
or by phone at 860-594-0232. Please have your receipt number available if
you filed electronically. Logs listed as checklogs either submitted as such
or were missing necessary information in the Cabrillo log file.
Thanks and 73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 15:36:45 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <1020323143645.OAA13428@gate.iterated.com>
On 4/23/02 7:01 AM, Ivo PEZER, 5B4ADA at 9a3a@spidernet.com.cy wrote:
>SO2R is just one of the latest developements that have caused many concerns.
SO2R is not a recent development. SO2R operating is decades old.
Contrary to the conventional wisdom, SO2R isn't a matter of buying
equipment. Having two radios doesn't suddenly given you an overwhelming
advantage.
Further, consider the efforts of Fred, K3ZO. He manages to hold his own
quite nicely with just one radio.
--
Technology has also made the issue entirely confused. For a couple of
years I have made the statement that the FT-1000D has 95% of the required
circuitry to do SO2R operating with a single radio. The only thing that
it doesn't do is receive while transmitting.
Now comes TenTec with their Orion. I have yet to hear back from the Sales
department on my question, but I would be quite surprised if it couldn't
receive while transmitting.
SO2R operation is effectively two receivers and one transmitter run by
one operator. Since only one signal is on the air at a time, and all
logging, spotting and operating is done by the single operator, it
properly belongs in the Single-Operator category.
There is no need for a new category.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 16:31:49 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] More QRP Bashing
Message-ID: <1020323153149.PAA19534@gate.iterated.com>
On 3/27/02 10:12 AM, Guy Olinger, K2AV at k2av@contesting.com wrote:
>It would seem that interference problems are largely solved by staying
>at low power, 100 watts, though QRP will definitely keep you off the
>neighbor's radar.
I dunno. Even with 100 watts, I still get into my neighbor's telephones
when using certain antennas, and my own TV on certain bands, if the DVD
player is hooked up.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 17:28:47 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NS3T's wild accusation
Message-ID: <1020323162844.QAA25155@gate.iterated.com>
On 4/13/02 12:42 PM, Ron Notarius WN3VAW at wn3vaw@fyi.net wrote:
>My experience was exactly the opposite -- I had a lot of DX stations (I
>stopped counting at 30) ask me to put them on the cluster.
Isn't ASKING to be put on the 'cluster in itself, a violation of the
rules?
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From w2up at mindspring.com Tue Apr 23 21:45:59 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <2091E0D4.66C90F65.00004183@cs.com>
Message-ID: <3CC5C807.4420.D4E7EF@localhost>
No, it's not a fair test. There are too many variables, and the causal
relationship of one variable vs. another is not adequately isolated. You
would need ops of SO1R vs. SO2R selected randomly to do an
unbiased study. However, this doesn't happen in the real world, as
SO2R is correlated (I didn't say 100% correlated, but definitely
correlated) with the better and more competitive ops (yechh, I hated
statistics in college).
Using your analogy, let's compare scores of ops using Kenwood vs.
Yaesu radios. If one group does better, does that mean we should have
separate categories for each mfr. of radio?
73,
Barry W2UP
On 23 Apr 2002 w0uo@cs.com wrote:
> Contesters:
>
> Dennis' suggestion is right on.
>
> The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to include it in
> contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage exists
> within just a few months.
>
> If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect between
> SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two
> major contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year to
> require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. If
SO2R is the cause of an advantage, one would expect the advantage to either be
substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
>
> Sound like a fair test?
>
> 7i3 de Jim
> W0UO/5
>
>
> Dennis Vernacchia <n6ki@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >Dick,
> >
> > ? ? ? ? I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
> >suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
> >already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
> >advantage.
> > ? ? ? ?
> > ? ? ? ?I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
> >the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
> >That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
> >will seee that the
> >top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
> >that is
> >due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
> >
> >Bottom line, just list it in results.
> >
> >73, Dennis ?N6KI
> >
> >On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
> >writes:
> >> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >>
> >> Most recent WPX SSB
> >>
> >> SO AB (A) HP
> >>
> >> NV4X ? ?2880 Q ?960 PFX ?33 HRS ?7.58M
> >> WZ7ZR 1836 Q ?749 PFX ?32 HRS ?2.78M
> >>
> >> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> >> fact that
> >> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> >> is not a
> >> separate classification.
> >>
> >> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> >> current
> >> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. ?I would do it but
> >> unfortunetly
> >> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >>
> >> Dick W7ZR
> >>
> >> Price Reduced!!
> >> Vacation or Retire Here
> >> It's Paradise on the Beach
> >> www.w7zr.com
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >>
> >
> >
> >73,
> >
> >Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
> >
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>From aa4ga at hemc.net Tue Apr 23 18:05:12 2002
From: aa4ga@hemc.net (aa4ga@hemc.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <2091E0D4.66C90F65.00004183@cs.com>
Message-ID: <3CC59448.22411.3CA20D@localhost>
On 23 Apr 2002 at 13:46, w0uo@cs.com wrote:
> The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to
> include it in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an
> advantage exists within just a few months.
Uh, who says SO2R isn't an advantage? Of course it is to those doing
it, or they wouldn't be doing it.
Having computer logging is an advantage over paper logging and a
memory keyer.
A memory keyer is an advantage over a non-memory keyer.
A non-memory keyer is an advantage over a bug.
A bug is an advantage over a straight key.
A straight key is an advantage over jamming two wires together.
Some folks don't have the typing skills to utilize the computer
logging advantage, and some folks don't have the multi-tasking skills
to utilize the SO2R advantage.
Why should there be separate categories for SO2R if not for different
keying methods?
If we try hard enough, I'm sure we could come up with enough
categories so that everyone can win one!
SO2R isn't new...it's just that it's easier to implement with off-the-
shelf tools than it ever has been. I wonder if early contesters
fought over whether or not there should be different classes based on
homebrew vs. commercial radios? They probably would have if they'd
had the CQ-Contest reflector!
We've been through all this before, and I'm sure we will again.
73 de Lee
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 18:14:26 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Spotting
Message-ID: <1020323171423.RAA28493@gate.iterated.com>
On 3/20/02 9:48 AM, w5gn from earth to swbell at w5gn@mxg.com wrote:
>I don't understand this "fear about flooding the
>spotting network" - if you are S&P'ing to generate
>spots, and working them, 60 an hour is hot and
>insignificant in volume, I would think.
If 1000 people S & P at 60/hr, that's 60,000 spots/hr -- many of them
likely redundant. I've seen lots of redundant spots. I think a few of
them are people trying to announce who they've managed to work.
>Do you run a node, and if so, is volume a problem?
I do not run a node. However, volume can be a problem, especially during
a contest.
>And if you filter out your 15:30 spot, because
>you spotted that station at 15:00, then I'll
>never see that station if I come to that band at
>15:31 because of your posting filter.
Possibly. There's always the case that you "just missed" an important
spot. The only solution there is to crank up your spotting connection
before the contest and leave it up.
The fundamental problem is that there's no replication of spots -- if you
aren't connected when the spot goes out, you miss it. (Unless your node
has a memory, and then you are limited to the depth of that memory)
There are programmatic solutions to this sort of problem, but it would
require some changes in the nature and formatting of the spots -- not
likely to happen.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 23 16:11:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Ontario QSO Party - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204232211.g3NMBCe29111@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Ontario QSO Party - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve3sre@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Ontario QSO Party
Ontario DX Assoc
PO Box 161 Station A
Willowdale, Ontario M2N 5S8
Canada
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
HFSSB LP
VE3BUC 3 195 104 24,675
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
VE3DC 965 1526 294 24 448,644 Other (specify when
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
SOABMixed LP
VE3STT 102 231 152 87,248
VA3WN 62 152 125 10 41,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
SOABMixed QRP
VA3TTT 118 113 114 17 45,578 U-VE Contest Club
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3OZO,VE3RZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 23 16:12:00 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204232212.g3NMC0Q29120@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: mqp@contesting.com
Mail logs to:
Mad River Radio Club
c/o Dave Pruett
2727 Harris Road
Ypsilanti, MI 48198
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/M HP
K8AA 302 560 102 89 11 222,324
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Mobile LP
K8MR 655 199 63 54 12 176,553 MRRC
WT9U/M 530 123 58 48 11 124,974 SMC
K5OT/M 205 77 51 32 40,421 SMC
K8IR 242 42 55 21 11 39,976 M&MARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op HP
N9RV 145 89 58 37 6 36,005 SMC
K4BAI 110 38 56 23 20,382 SECC
K8DX 76 95 77 0 4 19,019 MRRC
VE7FO 38 16 25 12 5 3,404
W4SAA/4(@W1CW) 45 0 30 0 3 2,700 FCG
K1KI 16 0 14 0 1 448 YCCC
VK2CZ 0 1 0 1 1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op LP
K8KHZ 74 311 39 90 12 59,211 Hazel Park ARC
K8SIA 185 120 56 51 7 52,430 MRRC
K7SV 166 100 64 42 11 45,792 PVRC
AD1C 157 49 72 31 10 37,389 YCCC
NY1S 118 45 63 23 11 24,116
KN4Y 150 0 73 0 12 21,900 FCG
K8GL 104 0 35 0 3 11,330 MRRC
N2CU 63 37 30 19 3 7,987 Western NY DX Assn
NF4A 52 32 32 15 6,392 FCG
WN6K 40 25 22 14 3,780 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op QRP
N9NE/8 201 67 0 0 12 54,873 Fond du Lac ARC
K3WW 82 19 47 14 6 11,163 FRC
Operators:
K8AA K8AA,KB8ECG,NU8Z
K8IR K8IR,KG8CX
K8MR K8MR,W8DRZ
>From k4ww at arrl.net Tue Apr 23 19:33:02 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <1020323143645.OAA13428@gate.iterated.com>
Message-ID: <006501c1eb16$d49c3760$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
"Bill Coleman" <aa4lr@arrl.net> wrote, among other things: "Further,
consider the efforts of Fred, K3ZO. He manages to hold his own
quite nicely with just one radio."
While I agree, I have yet to see a plaque or certificate for "1st Place,
Holding Your Own"!
Shelby, K4WW
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 23 16:33:23 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 EU Sprint, CW/SSB - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020423153218.00a5b0c0@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 EU Spring Sprint, CW - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 5, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Paolo Cortese, I2UIY
PO Box 14
27043 Broni (PV)
Italy
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 148 4 148
M0TTT 136 4 136
LY2OX 132 132 LDXG
UY5ZZ 124 124 UCC
K1KI 23 1 23 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
9A6XX 110 3 110 WWYC
YL2PN 61 3 61 Latvian CC
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
9A7P(9A6XX) 126 3 126 WWYC
I2WIJ 55 1 55
EI/G4BUO 32 1 32
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 23 16:50:38 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 EU Sprint, CW/SSB - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020423154942.00a55ec0@pop3.eskimo.com>
2002 EU Spring Sprint, CW - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 5, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Paolo Cortese, I2UIY
PO Box 14
27043 Broni (PV)
Italy
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 148 4 148
M0TTT 136 4 136
LY2OX 132 132 LDXG
UY5ZZ 124 124 UCC
K1KI 23 1 23 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
9A6XX 110 3 110 WWYC
YL2PN 61 3 61 Latvian CC
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2002 EU Sprint, SSB - Claimed Scores 23Apr2002
Submit logs by: April 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: eusprint@kkn.net
Mail logs to:
Dave Lawley, G4BUO
Carramore, Coldharbour Road
Penhurst, Kent TN11 8EX
England, UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op HP
OH1F(OH1NOA) 199 4 199 CCF
UA4LU 180 4 180
RW2F(UA2FB) 176 4 176 UA2 Contest Club
EA5DFV 158 4 158
LY1DS(@LY1FAF) 90 2 90 Lithuanian DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs hr Score Club
Single Op LP
LY2OX 161 161
9A7P(9A6XX) 126 3 126 WWYC
I2WIJ 55 1 55
EI/G4BUO 32 1 32
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Tue Apr 23 16:51:18 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <cb.211a4d32.29f72b81@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002901c1eb19$6561c2e0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Right idea, but the wrong definition. 8 radios and 8 towers wouldn't even
be competitive as a multi-multi station. But SO8R, now you're talking!
----- Original Message -----
From: <ALANNOTTAGE@aol.com>
To: <kr6x@kr6x.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 14:26
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> How about FOR - 'full-on radio' i.e 8 radios and 8 towers!!!!
>
> Al G0XBV
>
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Tue Apr 23 17:11:22 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <2091E0D4.66C90F65.00004183@cs.com>
Message-ID: <005701c1eb1c$3a95ec00$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Well, the problem with this line of thought is that if SO2R
did not provide a significant advantage, the results would still
probably look like it did. Only those who are already scoring
near the top of the listings would consider spending the extra
money for a second transceiver, a second amplifier, any
filters required, etc., and then doing the extra work of
separating feedlines, stacked antennas, and system grounds
plus running the extra radio interface cables from the logging
computer to the transceivers. Adding a good transceiver plus
amplifier, SO2R box, etc., costs money that most hams would
more effectively spend on improvements to the antennas. So
even if SO2R cost a few points in the contest rather than
adding to your score you'd still see only the high scorers with
"SO2R" next to their contest results.
----- Original Message -----
From: <w0uo@cs.com>
To: "Dennis Vernacchia" <n6ki@juno.com>; <w7zr@citlink.net>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:46
Subject: RE: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> Contesters:
>
> Dennis' suggestion is right on.
>
> The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to include it
in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage exists
within just a few months.
>
> If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect between
SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two
major contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year
to require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. If SO2R is
the cause of an advantage, one would expect the advantage to either be
substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
>
> Sound like a fair test?
>
> 7i3 de Jim
> W0UO/5
>
>
> Dennis Vernacchia <n6ki@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >Dick,
> >
> > I sent mail to this reflector over a yearago mirroring your
> >suggestions that SO2R be a separate category but the guys that
> >already run SO2R don't want to hear it now that they have the
> >advantage.
> >
> > I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on
> >the reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized.
> >That's all, do it for a couple years then look at all teh results and you
> >will seee that the
> >top guys are USUALLY on top. Yes, sometimes an SO2R station gets beat but
> >that is
> >due to other factors like a poor Op or lack of good equipment/antennas.
> >
> >Bottom line, just list it in results.
> >
> >73, Dennis N6KI
> >
> >On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:37:47 -0700 "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
> >writes:
> >> How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >>
> >> Most recent WPX SSB
> >>
> >> SO AB (A) HP
> >>
> >> NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> >> WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> >>
> >> Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> >> fact that
> >> he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that SO2R
> >> is not a
> >> separate classification.
> >>
> >> I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in a
> >> current
> >> class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> >> unfortunetly
> >> I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >>
> >> Dick W7ZR
> >>
> >> Price Reduced!!
> >> Vacation or Retire Here
> >> It's Paradise on the Beach
> >> www.w7zr.com
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >>
> >
> >
> >73,
> >
> >Dennis Vernacchia N6KI
> >
> >________________________________________________________________
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>From W0uo at cs.com Tue Apr 23 22:52:08 2002
From: W0uo@cs.com (W0uo@cs.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <81.1ab4fdd4.29f769c8@cs.com>
KR6X,
With all due respect, lets look at what I said:
The quickest way to expose {an advantage, or lack thereof}, is to include it
in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage exists
within just a few months.
>
> If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect between
SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two
major contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year
to require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. (If SO2R is
the cause of an advantage}, one would expect the advantage to either be
substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
>
> Sound like a fair test?
Now, lets state two hypothesis. H0: SO2R is not a significant advantage
in contesting. H1: SO2R is a significant advantage in contesting. Testing
these hypotheses requires an experimental design. The simplest design, but
not the only one and maybe not the best, is to run two contests, one with
current rules, one with a 3 minute band change limit for both SO1R and SO2R.
I could, but will not here, state a decision rule. It should be easy for
anyone with a background in statistics. Suffice it to say, if factors other
than SO2R are more significant, it will be born out in the measurements.
There is no other way to end this argument. Them that have want to keep
it that way, them that do not want to (or cannot) invest the extra $3,000 or
so that it takes to SO2R right want it changed.
It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a significant advantage.
Its time we found out.
73 de Jim
W0UO/5
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Apr 23 23:02:07 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4 Days to go
Message-ID: <002c01c1eb34$0993ea40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
NO5W penned the following:
From: "Charles Sanders" <no5w@txucom.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
Jim --
The Michigan group posted routes for the mobiles just prior to the test.
Will that be done for FQP? Good to see all of that orange on the website.
CU this weekend hopefully with better conditions than the MiQP.
73/Chuck/NO5W
>>Five days until the Florida QSO Party - hopefully we will get some better
>>conditions than our friends in Michigan and Ontario had this past weekend.
>>(sit tight for another week and my promotional/reminder e-mails will go
>>away - K4OJ)
The proposed routes for all the mobile teams are listed on the FQP web page -
when you get to the home page click on top of the:
Counties On The Air
text/"button"....
And Brett...yeah I might say something like 364 days til come Monday, but I
guess what I am ttying to say is that I will not be as frequent a visitor to
your in box as I have been since the WPX!
Chuck, and others are encouraged to go to the website for the FQP, its:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
Surf it - it really is good stuff...
4 Days til you can make me stop e-harassing you - all you have to do is work us
in the FQP
73,
Jim, K4OJ
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Apr 23 23:13:52 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R - is it fair?
Message-ID: <003501c1eb35$ae39c460$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
I think
WPR
will suffice :-) as an abbreviation for the Puerto Rico advantage...what is
interesting however is that WP3R can be beat...and not from the Carribean.
K1TO did it a couple of years ago - yes, there is no doubtr there is some major
advantage to being the "DX" in a domestic contest....but after talking wiht a
number of guys who have done SS from KP4 they do not exactly have a cake walk
when the bands go long on Saturday night....
As far SO2R being unfair - I go back to my yearly speach - it is one set of
gray cells versus another set of gray cells in single operator (and may the
finest tuned gray cells win)...i.e. - I don't care if it is SO6R as long as it
isn't assisted operation the winner is the one who has taught his brain to best
process as much information asd possible to maximize his score. And yes,
someone who can juggle multiple radios like N5TJ or K1TO can has a definate
advantage over my brain cells which aren't as good....and I also can't shoot
billiards as well as K1TO but I am not asking him to spot me a few balls in 8
ball, either.
If a guy can tune a rig with each and and each foot, send with both hands, type
with one hand on two different keyboards and run CW pileups at over 300 per
hour - congratulations to him for maximizing the human brain and he deserves to
be the winner...
Do not create a category for this - unless you want to create a category for
state of the art rigs with DSP versus those without...and Prntium computer
logging versus older DOS 486es, etc...
Its about the operator...the really good ones can juggle it all and still tell
you you logged somehting wrong via a talk message at a multi-op...I have seen
K1TO correct my callsign logging errors in the middle of a JA run - he was
running over 150 an hour at the time....
Its the operator....PERIOD.
K4OJ
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>From k4ma at nc.rr.com Wed Apr 24 00:39:38 2002
From: k4ma@nc.rr.com (Jim Stevens)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEDPDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Message-ID: <008b01c1eb41$ac92fbc0$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com>
Wow!
I didn't expect to be the subject of a CQ-Contest expose'.
Before I am crucified, let me provide some data / facts.
I operated the contest using TR-Log. For those of you familiar with TR-Log,
if one
has it configured correctly it will provide you with an estimate of the
number of 2nd
radio QSOs. I did have it configured that way, and TR-Log says I made 96
2nd radio
QSOs. My experience says that TR-Log underestimates the number of 2nd radio
QSOs
by some amount, so I did the following.
TR-Log marked QSOs by radio 1 with "A" and QSOs by radio 2 with "B". I used
a DOS
editor with some old, but advanced editing capabilities to count the number
of "B" QSOs.
There were 176 2nd radio QSOs by this count. I also counted the number of
mults worked
by the 2nd radio which were 111. Obviously some of these I would have
worked regardless,
but just using 176 and 111, my claimed score with SO2R would have been (with
the same points / QSO):
2704 X 849 = 6.29M which is still considerable ahead of the gentleman making
the original
post. If anyone would like to see a copy of my log, just e-mail me.
Let me describe my massive SO2R station. I have a single 100 feet high
Rohn-25G tower
which supports at the top a TH-6 and 40-2CD which are rotatable. I have a
2nd TH-6
side mounted but fixed on Europe at 50 feet. I have 80M and 160M inverted
vees hanging
from the tower. I have a WX0B Six-Pack antenna switch which allows me to
switch any
of the antennas to either radio. I have 2 ICE Model 419 bandpass filters
which provide
my only interstation interference reduction. The "run" station is a
FT-1000MP with an
AL-1200 amp. The "mult" station is a Kenwood TS-440S with a Clipperton-L
amp.
I have a Dunestar audio switch box, and a home brew (yes, I do know how to
solder a
little) box for switching the mike audio. Everything is manually switched
(WE9V, the king
of automatic switching, is like a God to me).
If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't support separate categories
for SO2R.
SO2R is hard! I like to think I am a much better SSB op than CW (I know
that may
not be saying much) but because of that I rarely push SO2R that hard in CW
contests
except Sweepstakes (where Sunday rates are so slow) and NAQPs (where it is
not
quite as tough). Even in SSB contests, where I think I know what the hell I
am doing
at least half the time, I don't push SO2R as hard as I should because it is
tough to do.
It is a lot of work. I admire the SO2R masters like (to name a few) N6TR,
N5TJ, K5ZD.
But I don't think I should have a different category than them just because
of SO2R.
A final comment since I am on my soapbox. Why the hell did I do Assisted
especially
in WPX? Good question.
First, in this particular contest, I knew that I had some other commitments
that would
keep me from being 100% focused on the contest.
Second, I enjoy packet. I like watching the spots come across. I still
chase DX. I enjoy
chatting with others during the test. I spent some time during this test
chatting with K4JA
on antennas projects at his station and conditions during the test. All
things that would not
have been possible without packet.
73, Jim NV4X (K4MA operator)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
To: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>; "cq-contest"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:20 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> I suspect if NV4X was SO1R he would have *only* had about 2800 x 950 for
> 7.0M...
>
> More variables here than you can see in the score listings.
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Richard Zalewski
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 17:38 PM
> > To: cq-contest
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> >
> >
> > How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> >
> > Most recent WPX SSB
> >
> > SO AB (A) HP
> >
> > NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> >
> > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> > fact that
> > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that
> > SO2R is not a
> > separate classification.
> >
> > I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in
> > a current
> > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> > unfortunetly
> > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> >
> > Dick W7ZR
> >
> > Price Reduced!!
> > Vacation or Retire Here
> > It's Paradise on the Beach
> > www.w7zr.com
> >
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>From kr1g at hotmail.com Wed Apr 24 05:19:08 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This -TLAs
Message-ID: <F18KoBCsBNq0mzjvJiA0000b0b0@hotmail.com>
I think I must disagree, although only slightly. TLA stands for three letter
"acronym", not abbreviation. And SO2R, while effectively a TLA, is truly a
AN4T - an alpha numeric 4-tuple, which is *far* more powerful.
And the FQP doesn't truly recognize the effects of true-north, just magnetic
north. Thats why they don't have a seperate category for Florida natives.
Man its a long time till WPX CW (soryy Jim, I'll be away from home for the
Freestyle QSO Party!)
73
Ted, ex-KR1G (I think)
>From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com>
>To: "cq-contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>In the world of computers the ubiquitous use of "TLA's" has
>been dominating the ideology of descriptive language for
>many years. Of course, "TLA's" stands for "three letter
>abbreviations". The theory goes like this: if something isn't
>important enough to be abbreviated until only the people to
>which it is important can understand it, then it's insignificant.
>
>Having personally pioneered the use of two transceivers at
>W6HX over 30 years ago (no, I don't pretend to have been
>the first contester to do this, only that I wandered into the
>frontier unassisted), I knew when the TLA "SO2R" came
>into widespread use that numerous competitors who had
>previously considered the practice insignificant would
>henceforth and forever after see "SO2R" as being somehow
>fundamentally different from single transceiver operation.
>
>Oh, yes, I realize that "SO2R" isn't 3 letters, it's 3 letters and
>a number. Right. Sure, I'll be getting flamed on the list for
>that. But many "TLA's" aren't really three letters. Consider
>"MM" for "multi-operator, multi-transmitter", "MOST" or
>"MS" for "multi-operator, single transmitter", and "M2" for
>"multi-operator two transmitter". Those are categories, aren't
>they?
>
>It's funny that the more important issues in the competitive
>position that contesters can attain aren't given the important
>attention that they deserve. Oh, sure, one contest now has
>a tribander and dipoles category that you can actually enter,
>and there is even a category for inexperienced operators
>somewhere in the immense structure for contests. But these
>divisions in the contest world can never separate us quite
>adequately until we have "TLA's" for each of them. I'm
>sure that everyone will agree that we need some additional
>"TLA's" to describe every facet of top notch competition
>that separates us from reaching the top rungs of the contest.
>Both the "good" and the "bad" issues require "TLA's".
>
>For instance:
>
>W5WMU's station has numerous towers. While most of
>the operators in the November SS have dipoles on 40 and
>80 meters, they often don't realize that a station like
>W5WMU can have upwards of 6 full sized 40 meter beams
>of 3 elements or greater - two stacked 3 elements pointed
>at the Eastern seaboard, two pointed at the mid-west, and
>two pointed at California. And, with one of the world's top
>CW operators (N6TR) running SO2R you'd think a station
>like that would always come out on top.
>
>But NO!
>
>WP3R always comes out on top. We need a "TLA" and a
>separate entry category for WP3R. I'm going to suggest
>"WP3R".
>
>Here are a few more suggestions, and I hope I'm not the
>only guy on the reflector who has ideas on this matter:
>
>PN - Pencil Nightmare - enters every contest without
> computer logging
>PPC - Pirate's his Packet Callsign - Why do guys log
> onto the internet/packet spotting nets with an inactive
> operator's call during contests instead of their own?
>TBD - Tri-Bander and Dipole? No! Tower Blew Down!
>SSF - Single Sideband Filter only, no narrow CW filter
>OF2R - Occupies run Frequency silently while chasing
> multipliers on the second station - this can be a single
> operator or a multi-operator multi-transmitter habit
>HC - Happy Camper - MM station who, at 0000z, starts
> calling "CQ contest" on 21,251 USB with 4 stacked
> 7 element yagis pointing at Europe and remains there
> continuously for the next 48 hours. Implies OF2R.
>TMC - Too Many Computers - No, these are the
> neighbor's computers and television sets that put out
> terrible RF radiation on all bands
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
>To: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>; "cq-contest"
><cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 18:20
>Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>
> > I suspect if NV4X was SO1R he would have *only* had about 2800 x 950 for
> > 7.0M...
> >
> > More variables here than you can see in the score listings.
> >
> > Randy, K5ZD
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Richard Zalewski
> > > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 17:38 PM
> > > To: cq-contest
> > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> > >
> > >
> > > How about considering this regarding SO2R as a separate class.
> > >
> > > Most recent WPX SSB
> > >
> > > SO AB (A) HP
> > >
> > > NV4X 2880 Q 960 PFX 33 HRS 7.58M
> > > WZ7ZR 1836 Q 749 PFX 32 HRS 2.78M
> > >
> > > Not to take a thing away from K4MA as the operator at NV4X or the
> > > fact that
> > > he is East Coast but come on....you can't keep telling me that
> > > SO2R is not a
> > > separate classification.
> > >
> > > I sure would like to see more analysis of this type where SO2R in
> > > a current
> > > class is compared to SO1R in the same class. I would do it but
> > > unfortunetly
> > > I only saved the SO (A) AB HP posts.
> > >
> > > Dick W7ZR
> > >
> > > Price Reduced!!
> > > Vacation or Retire Here
> > > It's Paradise on the Beach
> > > www.w7zr.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
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> >
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>From kr6x at kr6x.com Tue Apr 23 22:33:51 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <02c101c1eb49$3cb4daf0$ede3c23f@KR6X.ORG>
Frankly, from your first sentence this last message
from you shows a misunderstanding of my post.
"cause and effect"
One can show that there is a statistical relationship between
higher scores and SO2R.
I'll not deny that. It's going to be a fact. You'll see that the
average SO2R score is considerably higher than the
average single rig entry.
But to equate the score difference between single rig entries
and SO2R entries to the advantage to be gained by going to
SO2R shows the intent to use statistics to deceive.
In a double-blind test I'm confident that it could be
demonstrated that the average top 20 entrants in any
contest could benefit from adding SO2R capability or
alternatively would suffer a score reduction if his SO2R
capability was eliminated.
But the score difference would be only a few percent, and
for many operators that are less motivated and/or less
capable than the average top 20 entrants there could even
be a significant score reduction resulting from the fatigue
that sets in within several hours of the beginning of the
serious SO2R operation. For this significantly large group
of operators, the effort required to get the most out of a
station with SO2R capabilities will tire them until they
become somewhat befuddled, and will begin to operate
inefficiently. They'll often lose run frequencies they'd
otherwise have controlled or become impatient and
angry whenever they run across duplicate contacts.
The second receiver will distract them until they miscopy
exchanges that they should have received. SO2R will
cause all but the very best operators to drain their
mental capacities until they struggle to do the
things that would have been easy for them. They
just can't keep up the pace.
With the average modern new transceiver price being
around $3500-$5000, the modern competitive amplifier
new price $2500-$4000, and the remaining hardware
required to go to full SO2R around $500-$1000, the
price of adding SO2R capability to an existing station
can range between $7500 and $10,000. Admittedly,
it can be done for less. But most competitors see the
investment as being better spent on improving antennas.
If budgetary constraints are included, then a double-
blind test would probably show that the decision to go
to SO2R results in significant score reductions.
----- Original Message -----
From: <W0uo@cs.com>
To: <kr6x@kr6x.com>; <CQ-CONTEST@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> KR6X,
>
> With all due respect, lets look at what I said:
>
> The quickest way to expose {an advantage, or lack thereof}, is to
include it
> in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage
exists
> within just a few months.
> >
> > If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect
between
> SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run
on two
> major contest with current rules, change the rules for the
subsequent year
> to require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. (If
SO2R is
> the cause of an advantage}, one would expect the advantage to either
be
> substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
> >
> > Sound like a fair test?
>
> Now, lets state two hypothesis. H0: SO2R is not a significant
advantage
> in contesting. H1: SO2R is a significant advantage in contesting.
Testing
> these hypotheses requires an experimental design. The simplest
design, but
> not the only one and maybe not the best, is to run two contests, one
with
> current rules, one with a 3 minute band change limit for both SO1R
and SO2R.
> I could, but will not here, state a decision rule. It should be
easy for
> anyone with a background in statistics. Suffice it to say, if
factors other
> than SO2R are more significant, it will be born out in the
measurements.
> There is no other way to end this argument. Them that have want
to keep
> it that way, them that do not want to (or cannot) invest the extra
$3,000 or
> so that it takes to SO2R right want it changed.
> It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a significant
advantage.
> Its time we found out.
>
> 73 de Jim
> W0UO/5
>From kl7ra at blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov Wed Apr 24 09:36:01 2002
From: kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov (KL7RA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <008401c1ebae$2001a4a0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
On 4/23/02 7:01 AM, Ivo PEZER, 5B4ADA at 9a3a@spidernet.com.cy wrote:
>SO2R is just one of the latest developements that have caused many concerns.
Bill replies:
>SO2R is not a recent development. SO2R operating is decades old.
I had a complete two station setup in the 60's, so2r switching and all.
Unfortunately it was used for instant band hopping as I never acquired
the skill to tune a second radio for mults while sending CW with my
right hand.
It was the PC and SO2R software, most probably TRLog, that added
any clear cut advantage to having the second radio. Even then it takes
an additional skill requiring a lot of practice to operate everything
efficiently.
My guess is the top ten ops would stay in the top ten with or without
whatever advantages comes their way by technology. I don't see Jeff or
Dan taking a big dump in the standings anytime in the future because of
something "new". I see guys like that always looking for whatever skill or
equipment it takes to keep up or ahead of the pack.
In my opinion it's probably best not to dumb down the contest community
by rule changes but to encourage station and operator improvements.
The major rule changes will come soon enough. Contests will go to 24 hour
weekends, due busy lifestyles and packet spots will be okay for everyone,
due to enforcement issues.
73 Rich KL7RA
Snowed all weekend, zero degrees F last night. Come on Dayton...
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Wed Apr 24 08:42:14 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Message-ID: <3CC661D6.E4CC558F@gte.net>
Didn't anyone really READ Dennis' post? WHERE did he say anything about
a seperate category for SO2R? I just reread it, and still don't see it.
He wrote:
"I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on the
reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized."
Just something in the results to show who is and isn't using SO2R - NOT
A SEPERATE OR NEW CATEGORY. It's already on the 3830 reporting form ...
what's the big deal on adding an * after a printed result?
Seems like it's a big secret or something!
73, Ron WD4AHZ
SO1R, by choice AND necessity (and no, I don't want a new category. I'd
just like to know how I compare to my "peers" - and maybe smile when I
happen to beat a SO2R - or is THAT what has everyone so worried?)
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Wed Apr 24 08:48:12 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
References: <000001c1eae9$f1c58da0$6401a8c0@EMOCSANDER>
Message-ID: <3CC6633C.C1667475@gte.net>
Charles Sanders wrote:
> The Michigan group posted routes for the mobiles just prior to the
> test. Will that be done for FQP?
Go to the "On The Air" page on the FQP Web site. There you'll find a
listing of the mobiles and what counties they plan to be active from
(listen for them to sign /CTY, to let you know what county they are
currently in), as well as some of the fixed stations who will be on.
Ron, WD4AHZ
>From ums at nconnect.net Wed Apr 24 08:06:21 2002
From: ums@nconnect.net (Gary Sutcliffe)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <E17014E-0005OT-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
References: <20020422.221012.-394037.3.n6ki@juno.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20020424070621.00707cb0@mail.nconnect.net>
Radio contesting is unfair. Someone with better antennas, radios, location,
etc. will always have an advantage over an equivalent operator with a
lesser station. That's life. Or, maybe it is just a natural part of a
competition that encourages innovation.
The one thing about SO2R is that just writing a check and adding SO2R
capabilities to your station will not give you the automatic improvement
that other equipment upgrades would. You have to put the effort in to learn
to do it effectively. IMHO, SO2R is the major change in contesting that is
mostly based on operator skill.
I think we should applaud those who put the effort in to operate SO2R
effectively. We should also applaud those who work to improve other
contesting skills like pulling weak ones out of the noise, better typing
skills, better pileup techniques, better run skills, better S&P skills,
etc. I don't see a whole lot of difference.
73 - Gary, W9XT (whose limited moves into SO2R have probably cost more
QSO's than they gained :-)
____________
Gary Sutcliffe, W9XT Unified Microsystems
ums@nconnect.net PO Box 133
http://www.QTH.com/w9xt Slinger, WI 53086
>From ha1ag at compuserve.com Wed Apr 24 12:01:05 2002
From: ha1ag@compuserve.com (Zoli Pitman HA1AG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Rome & Lisbon
Message-ID: <001d01c1eb8a$d7dec680$33112a1f@Libertel>
Hi,
After a few days of leisure (hopefully FQP can be included! :) ) I'll be on
the road again. I'll be in Rome, Italy between 6 and 12 May, and in Lisbon,
Portugal between 1 and 9 June.
I'd like to use this trips to meet local hams so if U're interested in
having a beer (or more) and have a chat about contesting send me an emailto
ha1ag@compuserve.com.
73 de Zoli HA1AG
>From ve4xt at mts.net Wed Apr 24 08:42:41 2002
From: ve4xt@mts.net (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
Message-ID: <007101c1eb8d$86131c40$0100a8c0@joe>
First off, let me state I do not run SO2R, so this is not about protecting
any turf.
I don't believe SO2R warrants a separate category. W7ZR's analysis -- so
statistically flawed on so many levels I can't imagine anyone would base an
argument upon it -- simply shows one station in the promised land of
propagation laying a big old can of whupp-ass on a station in a
propagationally challenged area. No big surprise there.
Is there an advantage to SO2R? Perhaps, though it seems the jury is still
out. Sure, stations will claim to have made 100 QSOs or 200 QSOs on the
second radio. But even that is not valid statistically unless you make those
QSOs net of QSOs lost on the main radio while fiddling with SO2R.
Nobody has even ventured to speculate on QSOs lost, though SO2R continues to
be popular so obviously people think there's an advantage.
Some SO2R foes are in la-la land if they think that running two radios means
doubling their QSO count. Not even close.
But is the advantage to SO2R any different than the ability to copy several
streams of CW at once. Clearly, ops with that ability have a large operative
advantage over ops who struggle to copy one stream of CW at once. Do we
create a separate category for them?
Is the advantage to SO2R any different than the advantage granted an
operator whose internal SSB filters work better than the next guy's? Do we
create a separate category for them?
Is the advantage to SO2R any different than the advantage granted an
operator whose ability to pick bandswitch times is better than the next
guy's? Do we create a separate category for them?
How about the operators with the innate ability to find run frequencies
almost instantly?
(Oh, and don't bring in the economic argument, please. It's simply not
relevant. First, you can borrow the other radio. It doesn't need its own
amp. It doesn't need its own set of 5/5/5/5/5/5 yagis. You can homebrew your
way past the connectivity issues. Second, if you're going to apply
economics, then why not apply economics to the case of the ham who's
struggling to keep his FTDX400 on the air versus the guy who's FT 1000 MP
Mark V just arrived? Or the guy who's pair of homebrew 811s can't hold a
candle to an Alpha 87s pair of 8877s? SO2R is an ability that's practised
and honed over countless hours of operating. It can't be bought.)
I think the proposal to create a separate category for SO2R amounts to a
lowering of standards and marginalizes operators for doing what we really
want them to do -- be the best ops they can be.
If you would like to self-identify as SO1R, and have a separate category for
that, I wouldn't complain. I think, that like the tribander-single element
class, it would be OK to allow ops to opt out of the big leagues if they
choose. That would be democratic. Fair. Reasonable. And it wouldn't lower
the standards in the main category. I also suspect, that much like the
number of ops who would qualify for T/S don't choose that category, you'd
have ops with one radio who choose not to self-identify as SO1R.
There's a romantic quality to being a giant-killer. I wouldn't want to see
that taken away by forcing the giant into a different arena.
73, kelly
ve4xt
>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Wed Apr 24 10:45:01 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
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To: SECC@contesting.com
Subject: [SECC] Eyes and Contests
I'm passing this along so you will be aware of this possibility . . .
For the past four or five years when I operated in contests, I got blurred
vision. Not just blurry vision but vision that is seriously blurred -- to
the extent that it would be dangerous to operate a car, which I have
done. About a month ago I was diagnosed as having glaucoma. This week I
learned that I have intermittent acute angle glaucoma. The onset is caused
by dilated pupils. When the pupils are dilated for long periods of time,
like when I'm sitting in a fairly dark room in front of radios, pressure
builds in my eyes and blurred vision results.
The good news is that it can be fixed. In fact the kind that I have is the
only form of glaucoma that can be fixed. The eye doc fixed the right eye
yesterday with a laser and will treat the left eye on Friday. This is a
rare condition, but if you get seriously blurred vision when you contest
for long periods of time you might want have your eyes checked by an
ophthalmologist. In fact it isn't a bad idea anyway.
FWIW,
Jay/K4OGG
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>From nf4a at knology.net Wed Apr 24 11:01:00 2002
From: nf4a@knology.net (NF4A)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NF4A/M Route Plans for FQP
Message-ID: <NEBBKJEIHCNOJGJPHIDLMEOGEMAA.nf4a@knology.net>
Saturday starting in ESC then, SAN,OKA,WAL,HOL,WAG,JAC,GAD,LEO,JEF,MAD and
as far east on I-10 as possible with POSSIBLE excursion to SUW and HAM.
Sunday starting in BAY then, GUL,CAL,LIB,GAD,LEO,WAK,JEF,TAY,LAF,DIX, then
back thru to FRA (finishing contest in FRA so I can go have a cold beer with
N4PN at St. George Island in FRA)
40-10 Meters SSB and CW
Charlie NF4A/9A5PC
>From N5RP at pdq.net Wed Apr 24 11:06:28 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020424095929.00b37588@pop.pdq.net>
At 09:45 4/24/2002 -0400, Bill Fisher, W4AN wrote:
>I'm passing this along so you will be aware of this possibility . . .
>
>For the past four or five years when I operated in contests, I got blurred
>vision.
<snip>
=========================>
Yes, as Bill mentions, the torture on the eyes from hamming in front of
computers presents some real dangers and problems to our aging community.
I've done some research on this very problem for my own benefit, and my
wife, for my benefit, has done some looking around for information on the
subject, as well.
Before I dare get in trouble for "impersonating" a professional by
mentioning what I came to discover on the subject, are there any
professionals out there in the commercial interior design or medical arena
that might wish to comment on the ergonomics of a properly designed station
layout as it applies to eye strain and eye damage to our aging contest
community?
.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Wed Apr 24 16:12:16 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FQP minus 5
In-Reply-To: <200204241446.g3OEk49F015354@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020424150421.00a91f00@pop.pacific.net.hk>
K4OJ continued:
>And Brett...yeah I might say something like 364 days til come Monday, =
>but I guess what I am ttying to say is that I will not be as frequent a =
>visitor to your in box as I have been since the WPX!
But if you don't, I'll probably cock things up & miss it... so keep up the good
work, mate.
Already have 280 bhp taxi with total nutcase driver booked & seat closest to
first exit door on B747-400 Combi reserved for fast exit upon arrival in HKG
in hopes I can be back home in time to defend the all-time greater China record
in FQP...
I trust others have their FQP plans equally sorted & will be ready to rock 'n
roll this weekend!
73, BW2/VR2BrettGraham
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Apr 24 09:38:56 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FYI - Virus Address Spoofing
In-Reply-To: <001301c1eb11$ee1e0240$6401a8c0@Workgroup>
References: <8aabcucrdvnpph3ouob7g5cb0hka7oc61k@4ax.com>
<000201c1eb04$380a9a20$8266fea9@telepac.pt>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020424082102.00a5a120@pop3.eskimo.com>
FYI - just as a trivial interest
A lot of mail has been going around about the latest
virus behavior and address spoofing. Got a good example
of it in the 3830 administration hold box this morning.
A post FROM "3830-request" TO "3830".
3830-request would never originate mail - it is used
for incoming list administration requests. You would normally
post TO "3830-request". Obviously, some one has both these
addresses in their address book and the random combination
finally popped up.
So, the moral is (if there is one), watch who you
accuse of sending viruses. :>(
73 and have good day
dink, n7wa
>From n2mg at contesting.com Wed Apr 24 11:58:09 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL Contest Rate Sheet
Message-ID:
<20020424105810.23676.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
It seems that for about a month or so, the ARRL has
been publishing the "Contest Rate Sheet" bulletin (in
electronic form). It's available via email (to ARRL
members) and on the web:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/rate-sheet/
Ward Silver, N?AX is editing it.
Seems to be a part of the web-presence arsenal of
contesting resources which the League is developing.
Did I miss its announcement or what?
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>From kq2m at mags.net Wed Apr 24 15:07:38 2002
From: kq2m@mags.net (Robert Shohet)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R Nonsense
Message-ID: <000701c1ebba$eb9c0680$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
This thread is almost as old as SO2R itself and keeps coming up every year.
OK, here it is:
1) SO2R is an advantage over SO1R, but ONLY for those operators who gain
more with the 2nd radio than they lose on the 1st radio. REREAD THAT
PLEASE!
Many people try SO2R, discover that it's tougher than they thought and
really mess up with the first radio (as well as the 2nd radio), get
flustered and really tired and frustrated, and LOSE SCORE compare to simply
being SO1R. Plus the discouragement they feel REDUCES their energy level
and their score further.
IMO, computer logging was a quantum leap over paper logging, and in my case,
I KNOW that computer software has helped increase my efficiency and score
FAR MORE than adding a 2nd radio ever did! Despite that, the contest
sponsors didn't see fit to put create a new category for computer loggers -
they were right NOT to do so.
Sure software costs less than a 2nd station, but you can borrow a 2nd radio
and amp and it costs a lot less to build a wirebeam that it does for
computer software!
2) This $5,000, - $10,000 for SO2R is TOTAL NONSENSE! While I don't doubt
that some have spent this and more, I started with a USED TS830, USED SB220
and a few wire antennas.
Total cost MAYBE was $1,200, and that was 15 years ago. Today you could buy
them for less. Heck, someone would probably give you the TS830 for FREE!
What does it cost to build a 20 M Inverted V out of spare wire and RG8X?
$10? The computer that I used was a really slow 286. It would have cost
more to throw it away than to use it!
Even as recently as 4 years ago, I was still using a TS940 and SB220 with a
few wire antennas as my 2nd radio. Good enough to beat quite a few
Northeastern good ops with stacks and real SO2R capability and come in 3rd
in ARRLDXCW SOABHP Unassisted and finish in the top-ten in ARRLDX and CQWW
each year. As many have said, SKILL COUNTS!
3) I still DO NOT use automatic ant/radio/amp switching. I have some of the
stuff I need but I never installed it. I'm not sure that it will be durable
enough and I don't have the time to install it. IT IS NOT NECESSARY for
competitive SO2R, but it sure makes it more fun and more efficient if you
have it.
So spend (or don't spend) all the money you want, but understand that MONEY
ALONE does not change the standings. A great opr at a decent station will
almost always beat a decent opr at a great station!
4) Competitive SO2R is primarily about skill building, operating efficiency
and challenging yourself. Operating 2 radios (or more) is a skill that is
developed. While some may be born with more inherent talent than others (no
different than athletes, musicians, or anything else), a real "pro" takes
pride in it, works at it and seeks to find new things to do to aid the
operation. The more you push yourself, the better your skills get, and the
more often you push yourself, the more consistent the improvement and the
higher the baseline level of skill available for next time.
I haven't nearly maxed out my skill level yet. If I gave it as much time as
I do my career, I would probably be an order of magnitude better at it with
that much LESS effort. I can't wait to hear when someone has managed to
"perfect" a really efficient SO3R. I don't think it has happened yet, but I
am sure it will and I will applaud it when it does!
5) I won't address all the other areas covered, but suffice it to say that
life is unfair and contesting is unfair. There will NEVER be a level
playing field: there will never be equal propagation, or equal disposable
income, or equal location, or equal time flexibility, or equal anything -
that's just how it is. So, I try to focus on a few key things:
1) Having fun
2) Improving myself and my skills
3) Competing with myself, and
4) Talking with my friends
IMO, that's really all that should matter, and leads to maximum enjoyment.
I can NEVER win SS Phone from Connecticut, but I can still enjoy operating
in it (one of my favorite contests) and I won't ask for the contest sponsor
to create a new category to give me a better chance to win.
Someone can go to a big station in Nev or PR and make 30% more q's and score
than me, SO WHAT?
If they can use 8 radios and increase that to 40% more q's than me , SO
WHAT? They should be congratulated for their extra effort!
I know, that's not how everyone feels. That's simply my opinion. I leave
the judicious use of categories to the contest sponsors.
In the meantime, and as the debate rages on, please remember that what
matters most is to get on, operate and try to have fun.
73
Bob KQ2M
>From n2mg at contesting.com Wed Apr 24 12:31:53 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Tue, 23 April 2002, W0uo@cs.com wrote
> It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a
> significant advantage. Its time we found out.
This is the wrong question.
No one said that SO2R was not an advantage. From what
I've read, most agree that it is a significant
advantage. Anything that provides a detectable
improvement to one's score is a "significant"
advantage - IOW, one worth undertaking. If it wasn't
an advantage, why would anyone bother doing it?
The right question is: Does SO2R warrant a separate
category (and why)? The number of things providing
(significant or otherwise) advantage is virtually
endless and they have been listed here ad nauseum.
Virtually none of them have a distinct category. Why
does SO2R stand out in some minds? I sense it is not
simply because it offers an advantage. To me it
almost seems like it is simply because it is a
politically-correct-to-question operating technique.
Is it a bolt-on advantage like an amplifier? No, SO2R
requires a high degree of skill to use. Is it like
packet? No, all advantages from SO2R come from within
one's own efforts. Is it like having big antennas
(which generally have no separate category)? No, most
of the work required to extract an advantage from big
antennas is done well before the contest period.
73 Mike N2MG
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>From n5nj at gte.net Wed Apr 24 15:17:55 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (Bob Naumann - N5NJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FYI - Virus Address Spoofing
References: <8aabcucrdvnpph3ouob7g5cb0hka7oc61k@4ax.com>
<000201c1eb04$380a9a20$8266fea9@telepac.pt>
<5.1.0.14.1.20020424082102.00a5a120@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <00f001c1ebc4$c536b9e0$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
I have been receiving these types of notices for several weeks.
They all have a ham "theme" to them, in that many of the emails are hams.
So, someone, probably one of the contesting community, has an email virus on
their machine running rampant.
Several of us have communicated about it and we all know that it's not our
machines.
The virus that does this is called:
KLEZ.E.WORM
It uses the:
MIMEEXPLOIT.IFRAME
weakness of Outlook and Internet Explorer.
The w32.klez.e@mm virus, also known as the "Klez" virus, is a mass mailing
e-mail worm that copies itself to network shares and distributes itself to
all of the Address Book entries on the affected computer's Outlook Address
Book.
You can read about it here:
http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q316658
These things are real, and if you don't have up-to-date virus protection, it
might be your computer doing it.
I thought SPAM was bad enough, now I get all of these rejected email
messages.
73,
N5NJ
----- Original Message -----
From: <mwdink@eskimo.com>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>;
<list-owners@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:38 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FYI - Virus Address Spoofing
> FYI - just as a trivial interest
>
> A lot of mail has been going around about the latest
> virus behavior and address spoofing. Got a good example
> of it in the 3830 administration hold box this morning.
>
>
> A post FROM "3830-request" TO "3830".
>
> 3830-request would never originate mail - it is used
> for incoming list administration requests. You would normally
> post TO "3830-request". Obviously, some one has both these
> addresses in their address book and the random combination
> finally popped up.
>
> So, the moral is (if there is one), watch who you
> accuse of sending viruses. :>(
>
> 73 and have good day
> dink, n7wa
>
>
>
>
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>From k0hb at earthlink.net Wed Apr 24 20:32:58 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?iso-8859-1?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <012a01c1ebbe$768006e0$1a11be3f@bigguy>
W0uo@cs.com wrote
> It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a
> significant advantage. Its time we found out.
Of course it's an advantage, just like being able to copy QRQ code is an
advantage.
In other words, it's a skill and skilled people have an advantage.
I'm not an SO2R guy, in fact I have trouble being an SO1.5R guy (I have a Drake
R4C on a multiband vertical to tune for mults).
Until I decide to master the skill, the SO2R guys are gonna do better than me.
That's my problem, and their advantage. So be it!
(???) 73, de Hans, K0HB
--
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>From tree at kkn.net Wed Apr 24 13:37:01 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Larry Tree Tyree N6TR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020424123701.B31963@kkn.net>
> I also suggested that each contest summary that posted on the
> reflectors etc, have a column indicating whether SO2R was utilized."
>
> Just something in the results to show who is and isn't using SO2R - NOT
> A SEPERATE OR NEW CATEGORY. It's already on the 3830 reporting form ...
> what's the big deal on adding an * after a printed result?
I would like to point out that the CW Sprint lists the number of band
changes for the top ten stations. This easily shows who is using two
radios and how much they are using it.
Typically, one or two of the top ten are using one radio - with six or
less band changes. There are typically one or two stations up over 100
band changes in the same four hours.
Tree N6TR
tree@kkn.net
>From w2up at mindspring.com Wed Apr 24 16:55:31 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020424095929.00b37588@pop.pdq.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <E170SrW-0004AP-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
On 24 Apr 02, at 10:06, Bob, N5RP wrote:
> At 09:45 4/24/2002 -0400, Bill Fisher, W4AN wrote:
> >I'm passing this along so you will be aware of this possibility . . .
> >
> >For the past four or five years when I operated in contests, I got
> >blurred vision.
> <snip>
> =========================>
> Yes, as Bill mentions, the torture on the eyes from hamming in front
> of computers presents some real dangers and problems to our aging
> community.
>
> I've done some research on this very problem for my own benefit, and
> my wife, for my benefit, has done some looking around for information
> on the subject, as well.
>
> Before I dare get in trouble for "impersonating" a professional by
> mentioning what I came to discover on the subject, are there any
> professionals out there in the commercial interior design or medical
> arena that might wish to comment on the ergonomics of a properly
> designed station layout as it applies to eye strain and eye damage to
> our aging contest community? . Bob Perring
> ........................................... Amateur Radio Station
> N5RP mailto:N5RP@pdq.net N5RP Station Page:
> http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>
Ergonomics of computer use - nothing earth-shattering here. The
monitor should be at eye level, not above. This is more to prevent
neck problems than eye problems. The focusing muscles in the
eyes contract to focus close up, such as on a monitor. This does
no harm, but may lead to "eyestrain" or headache. The focusing
muscles relax to their resting state when you look across the room
- not a bad idea to do this periodically. If you are over 40-45, and
you don't wear glasses, you probably will need them for extended
close work. If you do wear glasses already for distance, you
probably will need correction for close work.
Glaucoma - Glaucoma is a disease of optic nerve damage that can
lead to blindness without treatment. There are many kinds of
glaucoma. The most common type is open-angle glaucoma
(90+%). It is slowly progressive over months to years. In its early
stages, it is usually without symptoms. By the time you notice a
"blind spot" in your vision, about 90% of your field of vision is gone
and cannot be recovered. It is usually treated with eye drops,
sometimes with laser, sometimes with surgery.
Narrow (or closed) angle glaucoma is much less common, but is a
medical emergency, often leading to blindness within a few days, if
not treated. Symptoms may include pain, redness, blurry vision
and headache. It most often occurs in dim lighting, such as movie
theaters and ham shacks. The "glaucoma attack" may be initially
treated with medication, then followed by laser, which is usually
curative.
2% of Americans of European descent have glaucoma. 10% of
Americans of African descent have glaucoma. It often runs in
families, but not necessarily.
If you are over 40, have your eyes examined every 2 years, even if
you have no problems with them. If you are diabetic, make that
every year.
73,
Dr. Barry, W2UP
Disclaimer - I am an ophthalmologist licensed to practice medicine
in PA and NJ. This e-mail is general information only and should
not be interpreted as medical advice or the practice of medicine.
--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From tree at kkn.net Wed Apr 24 13:56:13 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree N6TR)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
Message-ID: <200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
But - with the exception of the Poisson D'Avril contest on the
first, there just doesn't seem to be much going on.
It really makes it hard for us two radio guys to keep our skills
in shape.
At any rate - if anyone does know of any contests coming up this
weekend, that might not be well publicized, please let me know.
Maybe the Podunk Stew Perry Kid's QSO Party Sprint or something...
73 Tree N6TR
tree@kkn.net
>From ford at cmgate.com Wed Apr 24 16:09:15 2002
From: ford@cmgate.com (Ford Peterson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <000801c1ebcb$ea1026a0$13ed83d1@office>
Mike Gilmer wrote:
>
> The right question is: Does SO2R warrant a separate
> category (and why)? The number of things providing
> (significant or otherwise) advantage is virtually
> endless and they have been listed here ad nauseum.
> Virtually none of them have a distinct category. Why
> does SO2R stand out in some minds? I sense it is not
> simply because it offers an advantage. To me it
> almost seems like it is simply because it is a
> politically-correct-to-question operating technique.
>
SO2R is to contesting what running two fishing lines is to a fishing
contest. Two radios does not double the Qs. It may however double your
score. Chasing down mults while running a frequency is not rocket
science--especially when the run rate slows. Checking activity on other
bands with one radio requires giving up a run frequency.
Comparing a station with two radios to a station with one radio is not a
fair comparison. Comparing a station with a beam and a dipole is very
comparable to a station with 6 mono banders. In each case, only one antenna
gets used at a time.
SO2R is more akin to multi-multi operation than a multi-single. To compare
SO2R to a single op-single radio is quite unfair. There is nothing
"political" about it. It's simple physics, rudimentary probabilities, basic
ergonomics.
SO2R should be a category on its own, just like the "assisted" notion we now
embrace as "logical."
Ford-N?FP
ford@cmgate.com
>From Jimk8mr at aol.com Wed Apr 24 17:21:49 2002
From: Jimk8mr@aol.com (Jimk8mr@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <1a7.14b8401.29f86ddd@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/24/02 3:00:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
n2mg@contesting.com writes:
> Why
> does SO2R stand out in some minds? I sense it is not
> simply because it offers an advantage. To me it
> almost seems like it is simply because it is a
> politically-correct-to-question operating technique.
SO2R stands out in my mind not because it lets a person run up a bigger score
than would, say, a huge antenna farm, but because it leads to different
operating techniques that while great for the user are not so great for the
rest of contest community.
For years one had to, from time to time, abandon a run frequency to find the
many multipliers - mainly operations that are the only activity from that
country - who would never answer a USA station's CQ. This would then open up
a frequency that would be up for grabs for the first person who happened to
arrive there.
With SO2R the savvy operator just keeps CQing away, while finding and working
those mults on his second radio. That run frequency never becomes available
for anyone else.
For a number of years this may have been a managable problem, since automated
CQing was confined to CW, where there is just about always a little more room
at the top of the band. When voice keyers arrived on the scene in SSB
contests, SO2R became a bigger problem because there is never just a little
more room above 14350 or 21450.
SO2R is a natural evolutionary outcome of the quest for bigger and better.
It's great for the guys who can equip a station for it and use it well. For
the rest of us, forgive us if we aren't so excited by it. Tuning up and down
a band listening to the same guys CQing gets old quickly.
Check out the phone DX contests in about 4 years when we don't have 900 KHz
of useful spectrum on 28 MHz...
That said, I see nothing to be gained by making it a separate category. I
see no harm in making available the information on who is using it.
Jim K8MR
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Wed Apr 24 21:23:55 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R Nonsense
In-Reply-To: <000701c1ebba$eb9c0680$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
Message-ID: <000301c1ebcd$f636bcd0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
> I can't wait to hear when someone has managed to "perfect" a
> really efficient SO3R. I don't think it has happened yet, but
> I am sure it will and I will applaud it when it does!
Hey, s51ta did so6r here for wpx ssb this year and did pretty good for
his first try at it. There are just a few little bugs to work out and
it should be all ready for a real workout in a future contest! For one
he has to stretch his arms a bit to reach all the stuff, but once I get
all the autotune amps and auto turning antennas in place it should be
much easier. The biggest improvement will be when someone makes a
contest logger that will talk to all 6 radios at once. Then a so6r
headphone switcher with spatial separation of the 12 audio channels
would be nice, it would make the audio mixing look a bit less like a
recording studio. Think about that for a while, put 20m front and
center, 15m to the left, 10m to the right, then distribute 40m, 80m ,
and 160m above or below them, add virtual reality goggles and an eye
position sensor to pan you to the band you want to concentrate on, just
think of the possibilities!
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Wed Apr 24 17:29:17 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (James Jarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] blurred vision
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHOELNDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Acute angle glaucoma.....I was diagnosed with it in my left
eye a couple of years ago, and had it treated. The right eye
is monitored regularly; the opthalmologist recommends
laser surgery, just to avoid the possibility of a problem.
As I understand it, this is a normal condition of aging for
a significant percentage of the population. Fluid in the
eyeball normally leaks out through ducts at the periphery
of the cornea. Those ducts get pinched in narrow-angle
glaucoma. This results in pressure building up.
In turn, this can limit blood flow to the retina..and ultimately
cause blindness.
W4AN observed that it's made worse under darkened room
conditions, when the pupils dilate. This is true,
but it doesn't cause the condition, as I understand it.
The normal aging process results in the eye changing shape,
which poses the problem.
The risk is that ocular pressure can build quickly under
some conditions.....like going to 9,000 feet pressure,
which is normal cabin pressure in a commercial jet plane.
The risk of loss of retinal cells due to lack of blood
flow is serious....blindness can result.
If you're over 40, you should ask about acute angle
glaucoma when you have your eyes regularly checked.
W2OX, himself an MD Opthalmologist, recommends glasses
for contesting that give you a wide field of view, at
the normal equipment distance. This will reduce fatigue,
keeping you in the chair longer.
Jim Jarvis
n2ea
>From n5nj at gte.net Wed Apr 24 16:34:03 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (Bob Naumann - N5NJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References: <81.1ab4fdd4.29f769c8@cs.com>
Message-ID: <014001c1ebcf$73e61260$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
It IS an advantage - but only to those who can do it well! There is no
need for any further analysis.
Heck, I run SO2R from home with my TH3jr at 15' and my vertical. It's cool,
but I'm not going to win anything from here so, it would be meaningless in
the summary.
SO2R requires more skill - not just more equipment.
If all that was required was more equipment, I could stack up six rigs and
guarantee an SS win - right?
Wrong!
I find myself agreeing with KQ2M on this.
N5NJ
----- Original Message -----
From: <W0uo@cs.com>
To: <kr6x@kr6x.com>; <CQ-CONTEST@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> KR6X,
>
> With all due respect, lets look at what I said:
>
> The quickest way to expose {an advantage, or lack thereof}, is to include
it
> in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage
exists
> within just a few months.
> >
> > If we want to go further in trying to establish a cause and effect
between
> SO2R and scores we could design an experiment. After one year run on two
> major contest with current rules, change the rules for the subsequent year
> to require stations to stay on one band for just three minutes. (If SO2R
is
> the cause of an advantage}, one would expect the advantage to either be
> substantially decreased or disappear in the second year.
> >
> > Sound like a fair test?
>
> Now, lets state two hypothesis. H0: SO2R is not a significant
advantage
> in contesting. H1: SO2R is a significant advantage in contesting.
Testing
> these hypotheses requires an experimental design. The simplest design,
but
> not the only one and maybe not the best, is to run two contests, one with
> current rules, one with a 3 minute band change limit for both SO1R and
SO2R.
> I could, but will not here, state a decision rule. It should be easy
for
> anyone with a background in statistics. Suffice it to say, if factors
other
> than SO2R are more significant, it will be born out in the measurements.
> There is no other way to end this argument. Them that have want to
keep
> it that way, them that do not want to (or cannot) invest the extra $3,000
or
> so that it takes to SO2R right want it changed.
> It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a significant advantage.
> Its time we found out.
>
> 73 de Jim
> W0UO/5
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>From tonno.vahk at mail.ee Thu Apr 25 00:46:48 2002
From: tonno.vahk@mail.ee (Tonno Vahk)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
References: <Springmail.0994.1019003831.0.22034700@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
<005a01c1e5f3$d6c23530$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Message-ID: <023401c1ebd1$28b33550$4601a8c0@lhvdirect.com>
Today I got an impressive letter from Dick Norton, N6AA, member of CQWW
Contest Committee. He clearly showed me that I was was wrong in my
assumptions about mistakes in log checking and all the decisions of the
Committee were VERY CLEARLY reasoned and VERY WELL analyzed.
I want to apologize for any possible indirect accusations I made and for any
doubts I had in the accuracy of the log checking procedure. Iam more than
convinced now that this is an enormous job those guys are doing and I am
very impressed by the standards they have set and by the methods they use.
It goes far beyond what we see in UBN and NIL reports!
Dick clearly explained me that I was the only station working LY3BH actually
as the others were clear -Bs and it was quite certain that LY3BH was not in
the air. I confirmed it also having exchanged some emails with LY stations.
EA8ZC was actually us duping EA8ZS (the duplicate contact was in EA8ZS log!)
He proved me that several other -Bs that were worked by many stations
besides us were really with no doubt -Bs!
He admitted that F8BTQ was probably correct QSO and credit for it will be
restored in the
final run that will determine the score listed in the magazine. That was
probably one of the only errors in the log checking.
He also pointed my attention to the several U calls that should actually
have been marked -B!
There were some 20 of them! I guess you all have been thinking while looking
at the U calls in the UBN report that "Was I really the only one to work
this station or did I mess up the call but was just lucky to hit an existing
one???!!!" Well I have thought so and it felt like a gift of some kind
always!
So the actual subject of my intial posting should have been: "We submitted
the ES9C log with almost 10,000 QSOs, and it had one contact that appeared
to be incorrectly marked -B. There were at least 20 claimed QSOs that should
have been marked -B, but were not"
:)
So no more whining about the UBNs, lets try to be more accurate ourselves
and big thanks to those guys who have been striving to make our favourite
contest what it is!
73
Tonno
ES5TV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tonno Vahk" <tonno.vahk@mail.ee>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN
> As far as UBNs were mentioned I might say that I noticed quite a few -B
> calls in our ES9C M/M UBN report that were actually absolutely fine and
> existing calls and had been worked by many stations - 30, 40, or even
more.
> There was seemingly no reason to determine them -B (no Wn or anything). I
> know for sure some of them were OK QSOs as I even remember them. Like my
> first QSO on 20m -
>
> 1 -B ly3bh(3) ly3by(1224)ww ly3bx(850)n ly3be(644)ww ly3bg(108) w3bh(2)
>
> It's a well-known contester from LY and we even chatted a few words in the
> beginning of the contest. He has only made a few QSOs as I suspect he
worked
> in some M/S team maybe...
>
> Another example on 20m:
>
> 2183 -B f8btq(17) f8bqq(552)h f8bdq(21) f8bvq(8) hb9btq(147) py7btq(6)
>
> and on 10m:
>
> 269 -B ea8zc(5) ea8zs(4250)ww ea8zz(12) ea8jc(7)
>
> It is a bit irritating actually, don't know if anybody else has noticed
> it...
>
> 73
> Tonno
> ES5TV
>
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>From hwardsil1 at mindspring.com Wed Apr 24 18:45:17 2002
From: hwardsil1@mindspring.com (hwardsil1@mindspring.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Honor Sprint - Not This Year
Message-ID: <Springmail.0994.1019684717.0.01296800@webmail.atl.earthlink.net>
After inquiring about interest in running an Honor Sprint in May, I only got a
handful of responses, so I am not going to sponsor an Honor Sprint this year.
Sorry about that!
One idea that did come up was that of running a "doubleheader" sprint, with 2
hours on 10-15 in the morning and 2 hours on 20-40 in the evening. I might do
that some other time.
73, Ward N0AX
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Wed Apr 24 16:06:18 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <00c601c1ebdc$43c019c0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Mike --
Beyond the issue of whether SO2R deserves a category by itself
there's a new one that is seldom mentioned.
If a contest sponsor were to create an SO2R category, then would
there be any way to enforce it? Or could the sponsor simply be
creating a new way to cheat?
Admittedly, if the two rigs are on two different bands one could
draw inferences from the number of bandchanges that occur.
But SO2R can be implemented using two rigs and two antennas
on the same band in a few cases. It might sound far fetched on
the surface, but the cross-rig interference potential isn't completely
insurmountable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:31
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> On Tue, 23 April 2002, W0uo@cs.com wrote
>
> > It may be that, like SO Assisted, SO2R is not a
> > significant advantage. Its time we found out.
>
> This is the wrong question.
>
> No one said that SO2R was not an advantage. From what
> I've read, most agree that it is a significant
> advantage. Anything that provides a detectable
> improvement to one's score is a "significant"
> advantage - IOW, one worth undertaking. If it wasn't
> an advantage, why would anyone bother doing it?
>
> The right question is: Does SO2R warrant a separate
> category (and why)? The number of things providing
> (significant or otherwise) advantage is virtually
> endless and they have been listed here ad nauseum.
> Virtually none of them have a distinct category. Why
> does SO2R stand out in some minds? I sense it is not
> simply because it offers an advantage. To me it
> almost seems like it is simply because it is a
> politically-correct-to-question operating technique.
>
> Is it a bolt-on advantage like an amplifier? No, SO2R
> requires a high degree of skill to use. Is it like
> packet? No, all advantages from SO2R come from within
> one's own efforts. Is it like having big antennas
> (which generally have no separate category)? No, most
> of the work required to extract an advantage from big
> antennas is done well before the contest period.
>
> 73 Mike N2MG
>
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>From 107770.3462 at compuserve.com Wed Apr 24 22:26:56 2002
From: 107770.3462@compuserve.com (James P. Cassidy)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Honor Sprint
Message-ID: <200204242127_MC3-FB4C-FF8D@compuserve.com>
OK Ward, Sorry there wasn't more interest. N6TR will just have to put up
with the lack of action. Maybe use the contest simulator.
73 Jim KI7Y
>From n2mg at contesting.com Wed Apr 24 19:29:09 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID:
<20020424182911.27816.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Wed, 24 April 2002, Jimk8mr@aol.com wrote
> For years one had to, from time to time, abandon a
> run frequency to find the many multipliers...
> <snip>
> With SO2R the savvy operator just keeps CQing away,
> while finding and working those mults on his second
> radio. That run frequency never becomes available
> for anyone else.
>
At the risk of not knowing the answer to a question
before I ask it, I wonder how true this is? It would
be good to compare the logs of top SO1R and SO2R
stations and compare the "park time" on a given run
freq.
Although I may be wrong, I suspect, just like the
difference in total score, the effect of SO2R on
frequency occupation is less than some imagine.
SO2R guys are generally NOT working mults on the same
band they are CQing on. So if they are CQing on 10m
and want to hunt mults on 10m (a typical move for an
SO1R guy), most SO2R ops are going to have to start
CQing on 15m - freeing up the 10m run freq. "Savvy"
SO2R guys move around on the bands a lot.
> Tuning up and down a band listening to the same guys
> CQing gets old quickly.
You can't possibly mean to suggest that the SO2R guys
are to blame for this?
> Check out the phone DX contests in about 4 years
> when we don't have 900 KHz
> of useful spectrum on 28 MHz...
This happens every cycle. IMO, there will be little
clear distinction between the zoo that will exist on
20m with or without there being SO2R operations.
> I see no harm in making available the information on
> who is using it.
Let's list all the pertinent info, then - the ARRL
would "only" publish it on the web anyway (where
bandwidth is "cheap"). Let's list all the antennas,
amplifiers, DSP equipment, auto-switching
arrangements, whether or not the operator had his
meals served to him, or had a bathroom within 15 feet
of the shack, etc.
Mike N2MG
________________________________________________
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http://www.peoplepc.com
>From ve4xt at mts.net Wed Apr 24 21:46:52 2002
From: ve4xt@mts.net (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
<000801c1ebcb$ea1026a0$13ed83d1@office>
Message-ID: <008801c1ebfb$13dc2e00$0100a8c0@joe>
Comparing SO2R and assisted is not a fair analogy. Packet requires no skill,
involves the assistance of others and makes mult hunting the equivalent of
shooting fish in a barrel.
SO2R requires considerable skill, involves no outside assistance and makes
mult hunting EVEN MORE difficult as singly you must juggle numerous stimuli
while still making sense of what you're sending and what you're receiving,
often in both ears at once.
You can't buy SO2R, no matter how much money you throw at Yaecomwood and
WX0B. This notion that somehow you buy a second radio and all of a sudden
you're God's gift to contesting is patently false. It is very difficult. It
requires an operator to be highly proficient at all we hold dear. To
marginalize their efforts by forcing them into a secluded playing field is
to discourage excellence. Funny how you don't hear the Toronto Blue Jays
demanding that the New York Yankees be placed into a different category.
Now, creating an SO1R category that operators could voluntarily enter --
assuming they are indeed using only one radio -- gives an out to people who
choose, for whatever reason, to compete at a different level while
preserving the high standards of the main single op category. It's a
win-win. People who feel cheated by SO2R can now compete amongst like-minded
individuals while those who want to measure themselves against the best can
continue to do so. I suspect the majority of ops would remain in the main
category irrespective of how many radios they are running.
Remember the category refers to single OPERATOR. Even if he has three
radios, there's still just ONE operator.
> SO2R should be a category on its own, just like the "assisted" notion we
now
embrace as "logical."
Ford-N?FP
ford@cmgate.com
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>From k5ka at earthlink.net Wed Apr 24 21:48:14 2002
From: k5ka@earthlink.net (Ken Adams K5KA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO1R vs SO2R
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20020424204814.006d4ecc@earthlink.net>
This seems to come up every few months and the solution
that is always promoted is to create a new category for
SO2R. Instead of waiting for a sponsor to do that (which
won't happen), why not sponsor a plaque for SO1R ?
That's easy to do in every contest and it is something that
you have under your own control.
Ken K5KA
>From je1cka at jzap.com Thu Apr 25 12:19:26 2002
From: je1cka@jzap.com (Tack Kumagai)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums (JIDX CW)
In-Reply-To: Tree N6TR's message of "Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:56:13 -0700"
<200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
References: <200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <200204250219.LAA24615@ne.nal.go.jp>
In message "[CQ-Contest] April doldrums"
on 02/04/24, Tree N6TR <tree@kkn.net> writes:
:
:
: Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
:
: We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
Oh!! Please do not forget the JIDX HFCW contest in 2nd full weekend.
This JIDX HFCW contest will be JIDX CW contest in 2003.
LFCW(2nd wkend in Jan) and HFCW(2nd wkend in Apr) will be merged
into one CW contest. The complete rule will be announced soon.
---------
JIDX contest committee chairman
Tack Kumagai JE1CKA/KH0AM
Email: jidx-chairman@ne.nal.go.jp
http://je1cka.jzap.com/jidx/
>From k0il at arrl.net Wed Apr 24 23:01:59 2002
From: k0il@arrl.net (Ed - K0iL)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Nebraska QSO Party Reminder
Message-ID: <01C1EBDB.A99405A0.k0il@arrl.net>
Being a little more low key here in Nebraska, this'll be the only last
minute reminder you'll get on the reflector about:
*** The Nebraska QSO Party ***
April 27th & 28th
1700 zulu Saturday to 1700 zulu Sunday
For complete rules, details and paperwork go to:
http://www.qsl.net/hdxa/neqso/
If you live near Nebraska and have mobile HF capabilities, come on over and
have some fun running counties. A ham from Oregon is flying in to operate
portable from Burt County Saturday and Cumming county on Sunday morning.
The rest of ya should just get on the air this weekend and work every
Nebraska Station you run across! You'll feel better afterwards.
Special Nebraska Stations to look out for:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
W7DRA/p - Mike will be portable in Burt & Cumming counties.
KG0KR - Beth. Local mobile op gives out several counties each year.
K0AIR - Strategic Air Command Memorial Club will be operating again from
Douglas County's EOC underground.
K0iL - Douglas County (not rare unless you need it!)
Just Call "CQ N-F QP" or maybe F-N QP. Or if you're lookin' for a real
challenge, just hunt for the NQP stations! But just work it! See you in
the Parties.
73,
de ed -K0iL
HDXA V.P.
-.-. --.- .... .- -- ... -.. . -.- ----- .. .-.. -.-
Ed Edwards -- K0iL
PO Box 375
Elkhorn, NE 68022-0375 k0il@qsl.net
Visit my web site: http://www.qsl.net/k0il
or HDXA's web site: http://www.qsl.net/hdxa
--... ...-- . ... --. .-.. - --- ..- --- -- ...-.- . .
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by Roger Welsch. Recommended NQP Reading List
>From va3uz at rac.ca Thu Apr 25 00:26:29 2002
From: va3uz@rac.ca (VA3UZ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <20020420042905.25369.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00e301c1ec0d$f2970cc0$0201a8c0@yuri>
>
> Yes. All contesters (callsign) will be on culsters.
> The contest program will make a callsign-map per band.
> We can see the call-map on monitor. We will no need
> any hunting (mults, etc.). The logging program will
> know what we needed. Perhaps a "help-program" will be
> able to make some important mults for us WITHOUT US.
> And finally we will no need to fight 40-48 hours non
> stop, it will be enough to check our PC by hours. Or
> it will be enough to push a BIG ENTER at the start of
> the contest...(??) This is the future of contesting.
>
>
> 73
> Zoli
> HA5PP
>
Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be definitely
out of it.
Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
>From tavan at tibco.com Wed Apr 24 22:20:10 2002
From: tavan@tibco.com (Rick Tavan)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
References: <200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <3CC783F9.ACC2FD84@tibco.com>
OK, Tree, your assignment for April is to make the trlog simulator simulate
SO2R.
/Rick N6XI
Tree N6TR wrote:
> Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
>
> We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
>
> But - with the exception of the Poisson D'Avril contest on the
> first, there just doesn't seem to be much going on.
>
> It really makes it hard for us two radio guys to keep our skills
> in shape.
>
> At any rate - if anyone does know of any contests coming up this
> weekend, that might not be well publicized, please let me know.
> Maybe the Podunk Stew Perry Kid's QSO Party Sprint or something...
>
> 73 Tree N6TR
> tree@kkn.net
>From rv1aw at inbox.ru Thu Apr 25 10:22:22 2002
From: rv1aw@inbox.ru (Andrey Karpov)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Praha (OK)
Message-ID: <E170bi2-0009TM-00@f4.mail.ru>
I'm going to be in Praha with wife from 28th April until 5th May for rest.
We'll be staying in "CHODSKA" hotel. I'd love to get together with other
contesters in the area. If you're interested in gathering, please drop me a
mail.
73! Andrei Karpov RV1AW & RU1A
>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Apr 25 05:27:44 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <000201c1ec22$e0d23400$6a3dfa43@computer>
QUACK's
Gosh I'm sure we had this same discussion Last year and The year before
etc:
How many times we gonna have to read this STUFF
Nuff Said Already
Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Sutcliffe" <ums@nconnect.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 13:06
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> Radio contesting is unfair. Someone with better antennas, radios,
location,
> etc. will always have an advantage over an equivalent operator with a
> lesser station. That's life. Or, maybe it is just a natural part of a
> competition that encourages innovation.
>
> The one thing about SO2R is that just writing a check and adding SO2R
> capabilities to your station will not give you the automatic improvement
> that other equipment upgrades would. You have to put the effort in to
learn
> to do it effectively. IMHO, SO2R is the major change in contesting that is
> mostly based on operator skill.
>
> I think we should applaud those who put the effort in to operate SO2R
> effectively. We should also applaud those who work to improve other
> contesting skills like pulling weak ones out of the noise, better typing
> skills, better pileup techniques, better run skills, better S&P skills,
> etc. I don't see a whole lot of difference.
>
> 73 - Gary, W9XT (whose limited moves into SO2R have probably cost more
> QSO's than they gained :-)
>
>
> ____________
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> http://www.QTH.com/w9xt Slinger, WI 53086
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>From i4jmy at iol.it Thu Apr 25 13:09:05 2002
From: i4jmy@iol.it (Maurizio Panicara)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
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The CQWWDX is definitely my favourite contest also because of the great job
that's behind, the accurate log checking and the respect I've for the huge
effort of the committee.
The weak point in the system is not the log checking procedure, the best
possible, but the fact that known that logs will be analyzed, a number of
logs are actually "revised" (i.e. QSO removed to fit with some rule) and
"corrected" (officially against so called typos, hi) before submission.
I've been told of logs fully rewised with tape recordings, but also
statistically, against databases of previous contests or cross checked with
several logs of the contest in object.
Stated that either behaviours aren't in the rules but exist, it probably
happens that many unique calls (I mean self found uniques) are statistically
corrected into a "most probable call" by many, choosing to correct the
"typo" into a call with higher recurrence in previous contests. Like this,
the same procedure used by many with similar databases, a fake but valid qso
will be created if that station didn't enter the contest at all, or the
"ex-unique" didn't send his log.
In the same way, stated that a removed qso isn't in the log, it's hard to
verify (or prove) that originally it was.
73,
Mauri I4JMY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tonno Vahk" <tonno.vahk@mail.ee>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:46 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
> Today I got an impressive letter from Dick Norton, N6AA, member of CQWW
> Contest Committee. He clearly showed me that I was was wrong in my
> assumptions about mistakes in log checking and all the decisions of the
> Committee were VERY CLEARLY reasoned and VERY WELL analyzed.
>
> I want to apologize for any possible indirect accusations I made and for
any
> doubts I had in the accuracy of the log checking procedure. Iam more than
> convinced now that this is an enormous job those guys are doing and I am
> very impressed by the standards they have set and by the methods they use.
> It goes far beyond what we see in UBN and NIL reports!
>
> Dick clearly explained me that I was the only station working LY3BH
actually
> as the others were clear -Bs and it was quite certain that LY3BH was not
in
> the air. I confirmed it also having exchanged some emails with LY
stations.
>
> EA8ZC was actually us duping EA8ZS (the duplicate contact was in EA8ZS
log!)
>
> He proved me that several other -Bs that were worked by many stations
> besides us were really with no doubt -Bs!
>
> He admitted that F8BTQ was probably correct QSO and credit for it will be
> restored in the
> final run that will determine the score listed in the magazine. That was
> probably one of the only errors in the log checking.
>
> He also pointed my attention to the several U calls that should actually
> have been marked -B!
> There were some 20 of them! I guess you all have been thinking while
looking
> at the U calls in the UBN report that "Was I really the only one to work
> this station or did I mess up the call but was just lucky to hit an
existing
> one???!!!" Well I have thought so and it felt like a gift of some kind
> always!
>
> So the actual subject of my intial posting should have been: "We submitted
> the ES9C log with almost 10,000 QSOs, and it had one contact that appeared
> to be incorrectly marked -B. There were at least 20 claimed QSOs that
should
> have been marked -B, but were not"
>
> :)
>
> So no more whining about the UBNs, lets try to be more accurate ourselves
> and big thanks to those guys who have been striving to make our favourite
> contest what it is!
>
> 73
> Tonno
> ES5TV
>From tautvydas at achema.com Thu Apr 25 14:40:07 2002
From: tautvydas@achema.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tautvydas_Misi=FBnas?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] e-QSL change of policy
Message-ID: <00ad01c1ec4d$f880ebc0$a800a8c0@tautvydas>
I became e-QSL system user a while ago and it worked perfectly up to this
major change done.Sorry,but now my inbox size reached maybe 500 QSO's and I
can do nothing:my attempts to upload ADIF files are vain-just very small
files with less than 100 QSO's get through,larger do not!
E-QSL page became extermely slow,maybe due to sharply increased
attendance.This system needs radical upgrade to use it safely and easily.DAT
and DTA files should be accepted for sure.
e-QSLing is our future definitely and system is in transition now .As
financing to develope it is needed ,subsribtion system must be introduced.
My appologies to the guys who are waiting my return e-QSL,maybe it will
be possible one day...
73 ,Ted,LY2OX
>From k8do at amethyst.diamondcs.net Thu Apr 25 09:01:35 2002
From: k8do@amethyst.diamondcs.net (Dennis O'Connor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
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Message-ID: <002d01c1ec50$f817c250$20996c40@gq7mb01>
An opthalmologist! And here I thought you were a real doctor....
Denny - GP for a quarter century...
<snicker>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
> On 24 Apr 02, at 10:06, Bob, N5RP wrote:
>
> > At 09:45 4/24/2002 -0400, Bill Fisher, W4AN wrote:
> > >I'm passing this along so you will be aware of this possibility . . .
> > >
> > >For the past four or five years when I operated in contests, I got
> > >blurred vision.
> > <snip>
> > =========================>
> > Yes, as Bill mentions, the torture on the eyes from hamming in front
> > of computers presents some real dangers and problems to our aging
> > community.
> >
> > I've done some research on this very problem for my own benefit, and
> > my wife, for my benefit, has done some looking around for information
> > on the subject, as well.
> >
> > Before I dare get in trouble for "impersonating" a professional by
> > mentioning what I came to discover on the subject, are there any
> > professionals out there in the commercial interior design or medical
> > arena that might wish to comment on the ergonomics of a properly
> > designed station layout as it applies to eye strain and eye damage to
> > our aging contest community? . Bob Perring
> > ........................................... Amateur Radio Station
> > N5RP mailto:N5RP@pdq.net N5RP Station Page:
> > http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
> >
>
> Ergonomics of computer use - nothing earth-shattering here. The
> monitor should be at eye level, not above. This is more to prevent
> neck problems than eye problems. The focusing muscles in the
> eyes contract to focus close up, such as on a monitor. This does
> no harm, but may lead to "eyestrain" or headache. The focusing
> muscles relax to their resting state when you look across the room
> - not a bad idea to do this periodically. If you are over 40-45, and
> you don't wear glasses, you probably will need them for extended
> close work. If you do wear glasses already for distance, you
> probably will need correction for close work.
>
> Glaucoma - Glaucoma is a disease of optic nerve damage that can
> lead to blindness without treatment. There are many kinds of
> glaucoma. The most common type is open-angle glaucoma
> (90+%). It is slowly progressive over months to years. In its early
> stages, it is usually without symptoms. By the time you notice a
> "blind spot" in your vision, about 90% of your field of vision is gone
> and cannot be recovered. It is usually treated with eye drops,
> sometimes with laser, sometimes with surgery.
> Narrow (or closed) angle glaucoma is much less common, but is a
> medical emergency, often leading to blindness within a few days, if
> not treated. Symptoms may include pain, redness, blurry vision
> and headache. It most often occurs in dim lighting, such as movie
> theaters and ham shacks. The "glaucoma attack" may be initially
> treated with medication, then followed by laser, which is usually
> curative.
> 2% of Americans of European descent have glaucoma. 10% of
> Americans of African descent have glaucoma. It often runs in
> families, but not necessarily.
>
> If you are over 40, have your eyes examined every 2 years, even if
> you have no problems with them. If you are diabetic, make that
> every year.
>
> 73,
> Dr. Barry, W2UP
>
> Disclaimer - I am an ophthalmologist licensed to practice medicine
> in PA and NJ. This e-mail is general information only and should
> not be interpreted as medical advice or the practice of medicine.
>
> --
> Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>
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>From tgardner at glcc.com Thu Apr 25 09:19:32 2002
From: tgardner@glcc.com (Tim Gardner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Indiana QSO Party - May 4
Message-ID: <scc7bc1e.058@USGSFS01.g-l.com>
Greetings all,
Just a reminder that the Indiana QSO Party is coming
next weekend ? May 4, 2002.
Please check out the completely revamped website at
www.hdxcc.org/inqp for all the details, rules and
links for free logging software.
We know of planned operations that will put about 75%
of Indiana's 92 counties on the air. If you know of
others, please let us know by sending email to
inqp@hdxcc.org. You will find a map showing all the
operations known to us on our web site (check the
"Activity" link).
'73
Tim - N9LF
>From k8do at amethyst.diamondcs.net Thu Apr 25 09:34:10 2002
From: k8do@amethyst.diamondcs.net (Dennis O'Connor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
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Leigh, like you I am always interested in new ideas... But this one I
love... You run an SO8R and I will follow you around... I can probably make
a good living off the guys answering your run radio that you don't hear on
the first call... In fact, that gives me an idea for a new catagory... Two
station, single frequency contesting... I will call it TS, for short...
Just think of the possibilities... More than one station working a
frequency... Think of the increase in scores...Think of the camraderie as we
all work the same DX station on the same frequency... This would be real
TS...
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com>
To: <ALANNOTTAGE@aol.com>; <CQ-CONTEST@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
> Right idea, but the wrong definition. 8 radios and 8 towers wouldn't even
> be competitive as a multi-multi station. But SO8R, now you're talking!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ALANNOTTAGE@aol.com>
> To: <kr6x@kr6x.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 14:26
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>
> > How about FOR - 'full-on radio' i.e 8 radios and 8 towers!!!!
> >
> > Al G0XBV
> >
>
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>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:12:32 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
Message-ID: <20020425141358.NMXQ962.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/24/02 3:56 PM, Tree N6TR at tree@kkn.net wrote:
>Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
Isn't this because Dayton was traditionally held in April?
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From w4au at contesting.com Thu Apr 25 10:10:25 2002
From: w4au@contesting.com (John Unger)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
In-Reply-To: <200204241956.MAA32309@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020425090623.00c10c30@gsvaresm01.er.usgs.gov>
Tree -
I think the Florida QSO Party is coming up sometime soon, but that usually
conflicts with Dayton, doesn't it? Also I may be confused after reading all the
messages on this reflector, but I believe that the new FQP rules do not allow
SO2R stations this year unless they append their calls with /SO2R.
73 - John, W4AU
At 12:56 4/24/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
>
>We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
>
>But - with the exception of the Poisson D'Avril contest on the
>first, there just doesn't seem to be much going on.
>
>It really makes it hard for us two radio guys to keep our skills
>in shape.
>
>At any rate - if anyone does know of any contests coming up this
>weekend, that might not be well publicized, please let me know.
>Maybe the Podunk Stew Perry Kid's QSO Party Sprint or something...
>
>73 Tree N6TR
>tree@kkn.net
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>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 25 07:11:28 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID:
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On Wed, 24 April 2002, "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" wrote
> If a contest sponsor were to create an SO2R
> category, then would there be any way to enforce
> it? Or could the sponsor simply be creating a new
> way to cheat?
While a valid point, this would not be unique to an
SO2R category. Almost ALL categories (hell, even your
state/section) are essentially unenforceable.
> Admittedly, if the two rigs are on two different
> bands one could draw inferences from the number of
> bandchanges that occur.
While there is surely a high correlation between the
number and timing of band changes and SO2R operation,
(hell, there is already freeware that proports to tell
one how many "second radio" QSOs were made) it *is*
possible for one radio (even a radio with one VFO knob
like a 940), one autotune amp and automatic antenna
switching to be used to nab QSOs on bands other than
the one being CQed on. Not nearly as efficient or
effective as true SO2R, but the results in the log
would be fairly similar.
My guess is that anyone "cheating" an SO2R rule is out
of the running anyway. I think most guys would be
proud of the fact that they ran it!
> But SO2R can be implemented using two rigs and two
> antennas on the same band in a few cases. It might
> sound far fetched on the surface, but the cross-rig
> interference potential isn't completely
> insurmountable.
While admittedly not trivial, this is definitely do-
able (being done currently by at least one multi-op
station).
73 Mike N2MG
________________________________________________
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http://www.peoplepc.com
>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 25 07:23:26 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
Message-ID:
<20020425062328.27396.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Tonno,
I, too, have had several correspondences with the CQWW
committee and/or log checking folks. Each of the
responses I received was courteous and enlightening.
The more I learned (directly from them and not from
speculation on the reflector), the more I realized
these guys know what the hell they are doing. The
techniques are logical and well constructed. And,
might I add, apparently still very closely scrutinized
by humans.
It's only too bad that they haven't figured out a way
to make a public document describing some of their
techniques without giving away their, excuse the
term, "secrets". They understandably want to avoid
folks attempting to "wash" their logs based on the
criteria.
Mike N2MG
On Wed, 24 April 2002, "Tonno Vahk" wrote
>
> Today I got an impressive letter from Dick Norton,
N6AA, member of CQWW
> Contest Committee. He clearly showed me that I was
was wrong in my
> assumptions about mistakes in log checking and all
the decisions of the
> Committee were VERY CLEARLY reasoned and VERY WELL
analyzed.
>
> I want to apologize for any possible indirect
accusations I made and for any
> doubts I had in the accuracy of the log checking
procedure. Iam more than
> convinced now that this is an enormous job those guys
are doing and I am
> very impressed by the standards they have set and by
the methods they use.
> It goes far beyond what we see in UBN and NIL reports!
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:53:08 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425145434.BEQW12902.imf16bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/24/02 12:33 AM, Leigh S. Jones at kr6x@kr6x.com wrote:
>With the average modern new transceiver price being
>around $3500-$5000, the modern competitive amplifier
>new price $2500-$4000, and the remaining hardware
>required to go to full SO2R around $500-$1000, the
>price of adding SO2R capability to an existing station
>can range between $7500 and $10,000.
Horsepucky.
You don't NEED a NEW transceiver for SO2R. A second-hand radio will do
just fine.
You don't NEED an amplifier for SO2R. If you don't like going barefoot,
even a modest amplifier will provide some cover.
You need some switching, perhaps some filtering, and a second tranceiver.
You can probably add SO2R capability to an existing station for
$500-1000, easily. Maybe to $1500 if you insist on having an amplifier.
If you've already got $10,000 in your station (for the first radio and
antennas), another $1000 isn't much.
Me? I can't afford a $10,000 ham station.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:21:11 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425142237.LNET28927.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/23/02 1:46 PM, w0uo@cs.com at w0uo@cs.com wrote:
>The quickest way to expose an advantage, or lack thereof, is to include it
>in contest reporting. It should be obvious whether such an advantage
>exists within just a few months.
While the contest sponsors don't report it in every case, you'll find
that the forms for the 3830 list DO have a field for SO2R operation.
It wouldn't be hard to correlate the listings on 3830 with the contest
results.
(And what about the RTTY contest guys who run SO3R?)
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 12:06:48 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425150814.TQOW20943.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/24/02 4:09 PM, Ford Peterson at ford@cmgate.com wrote:
>SO2R is to contesting what running two fishing lines is to a fishing
>contest.
Not exactly. SO2R doesn't mean you can transmit on both similtaneously.
You are still constrained to have one transmitted signal on the air at
one time.
It's more like having two fishing lines where only one line is in the
water at a time....
>Comparing a station with two radios to a station with one radio is not a
>fair comparison.
No? I have two radios. (Just built an Elecraft K2) I don't see any
single-radio operators quaking in their boots over it.
>Comparing a station with a beam and a dipole is very
>comparable to a station with 6 mono banders. In each case, only one antenna
>gets used at a time.
Define "used".
And I disagree. A tribander and a dipole is not comparable to multiple
tribanders or monoband antennas. In fact, the CQ WPX committee agrees
with me. That's why they have the TS category. Even so, there's a huge
difference in the "T". A Butternut HF5B isn't comparable to a Force12
C51XR.
>SO2R is more akin to multi-multi operation than a multi-single.
Not at all. Only one transmitted signal. Only one operator. I don't see
any relation at all to the multi-operator categories.
However, a Multi-Single station configuration often makes an adequate
SO2R station.
> To compare
>SO2R to a single op-single radio is quite unfair.
Not at all. It's just one guy with more equipment!
> There is nothing
>"political" about it. It's simple physics, rudimentary probabilities, basic
>ergonomics.
Poppycock.
>SO2R should be a category on its own, just like the "assisted" notion we now
>embrace as "logical."
No! Assisted involves having some other person do spotting of stations
for you. SO2R is ONE guy. UNO! What's worse, he's got more hardware to
manage.
Further, modern radios really confuse the SO2R issue. Is a guy using an
FT-1000 using two radios? The MP can receive in two portions of the same
band, and the FT-1000D can receive on two different bands? The new TenTec
Orion may make the whole situation worse (Unlike the Yeasu, it is unclear
if the Orion blanks both receivers during transmit).
Look again. The category is "Single Operator". The contest sponsors
typically make no mention of how much equipment he is using. So long as
the condition of one transmitted signal at any one time, appropriate
power level, and assistance (or lack thereof), there is no reason to make
a different category just because someone listens to more than one
receiver at a time.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:28:04 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425142930.OYGG15548.imf02bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/23/02 5:05 PM, aa4ga@hemc.net at aa4ga@hemc.net wrote:
>Uh, who says SO2R isn't an advantage? Of course it is to those doing
>it, or they wouldn't be doing it.
Not exactly, Lee. Certainly the operator must perceive it to be an
advantage, or they wouldn't do it. I think it takes considerable skill
for it to be a true advantage. And some SO2R operators don't perform as
well as SO1R operators.
>Some folks don't have the typing skills to utilize the computer
>logging advantage, and some folks don't have the multi-tasking skills
>to utilize the SO2R advantage.
W4AN's comment to me, when I tried SO2R operating in the 1995 SS SSB was
"you can't learn to do this in a single contest." Bill has literally
spent weeks in the shack chair, making casual QSOs on one rig while
listening with on ear to another radio. It's much harder than it sounds.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 11:46:59 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <20020425144826.QKRA14245.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/23/02 7:11 PM, Leigh S. Jones, KR6X at kr6x@kr6x.com wrote:
>Only those who are already scoring
>near the top of the listings would consider spending the extra
>money for a second transceiver, a second amplifier, any
>filters required, etc., and then doing the extra work of
>separating feedlines, stacked antennas, and system grounds
>plus running the extra radio interface cables from the logging
>computer to the transceivers.
Seems like this is a mis-conception as well. Why do the two stations have
to be equal? Consider - to get benefit from SO2R, do you really need a
top-of-the-line transceiver? Do you really need a second amplifier? Do
you really need equivalent antennas for both stations?
If you already have a very competitive contest station -- do you really
need to double it for SO2R? I don't think so. There's several scenarios.
Consider:
A) The second radio will be used virtually exclusively for S & P. Do you
need an amplifier for this? Seems one could make virtually the same
number of QSOs barefoot S & P as one could with an amp. And if there's
some important multiplier to be had, perhaps bringing radio one to bear
might be worth the trouble.
B) Since you're not calling CQ, aren't you less likely to be digging out
really weak callers on the second radio? Perhaps you don't need such an
elaborate transceiver, or big stacks of antennas. Perhaps just adding a
single tribander and a couple of dipoles would be sufficient, or even one
of those multi-band vertical dummy loads might work. (W4AN used an R5 for
second radio practice) A second-hand radio might do passibly well, or
perhaps a miniature mobile rig. (K4OGG moves his mobile HF radio to the
shack for contests)
C) Can you leverage your existing antenna system? W4AN didn't add a
single antenna to run SO2R at his superstation. Why? He's got a single
feedline for each band. Antennas are easily switched from one radio to
the other. If you already have monoband antennas on every band, you don't
need more antennas.
--
I'm working to add SO2R operation to my very modest station on a tight
budget. I have no amplifier(s). I'm looking to improve my low-power
scores. I recently built a K2 (which will become a K2-100 soon), and
already have an old TS-430S. At low power, I don't appear to need any
filters. Antennas are modest -- an A3S at 49.5', 80m doublet, 40m sloper,
R7000.
I refuse to believe that my modest SO2R configuration is somehow so
competitive that SO1R operators don't stand a chance and need to be moved
to another category.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From n2mg at contesting.com Thu Apr 25 09:32:57 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
Message-ID:
<20020425083258.27251.h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Tree N6TR wrote:
> Anyone notice how there just aren't any real
> contests in April?
I thought the FQP happened in April. Maybe I'm
wrong... I should look it up somewhere.
Besides, maybe that's not a "real" contest...
OJ? ;-)
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From n5nj at gte.net Thu Apr 25 11:24:57 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (Bob Naumann - N5NJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
References:
<20020425062328.27396.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <071a01c1ec6d$5c0b0120$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
Mike,
I think this recent thread is doing a great deal to clear up many
misconceptions about the log checking process and the UBN reports.
It seems the three main points that are misunderstood are that:
1) B means 'BAD QSO" and not necessarily a "bad" or non-existent callsign
2) Uniques DO NOT cost you points from your score.
3) If someone else logs your call incorrectly, they lose points - not you.
Regarding number 1, often a callsign is logged which is indeed a good
callsign - but it's marked B because that isn't who you worked!
73,
Bob N5NJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
To: <tonno.vahk@mail.ee>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
> Tonno,
>
> I, too, have had several correspondences with the CQWW
> committee and/or log checking folks. Each of the
> responses I received was courteous and enlightening.
>
> The more I learned (directly from them and not from
> speculation on the reflector), the more I realized
> these guys know what the hell they are doing. The
> techniques are logical and well constructed. And,
> might I add, apparently still very closely scrutinized
> by humans.
>
> It's only too bad that they haven't figured out a way
> to make a public document describing some of their
> techniques without giving away their, excuse the
> term, "secrets". They understandably want to avoid
> folks attempting to "wash" their logs based on the
> criteria.
>
> Mike N2MG
>
> On Wed, 24 April 2002, "Tonno Vahk" wrote
>
> >
> > Today I got an impressive letter from Dick Norton,
> N6AA, member of CQWW
> > Contest Committee. He clearly showed me that I was
> was wrong in my
> > assumptions about mistakes in log checking and all
> the decisions of the
> > Committee were VERY CLEARLY reasoned and VERY WELL
> analyzed.
> >
> > I want to apologize for any possible indirect
> accusations I made and for any
> > doubts I had in the accuracy of the log checking
> procedure. Iam more than
> > convinced now that this is an enormous job those guys
> are doing and I am
> > very impressed by the standards they have set and by
> the methods they use.
> > It goes far beyond what we see in UBN and NIL reports!
>
> ________________________________________________
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> http://www.peoplepc.com
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>
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Thu Apr 25 11:10:49 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] eQSL.cc reverses policy
Message-ID: <017c01c1ec73$c413f140$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
April 24, 2002 -- eQSL.cc has removed its double blind requirement on the
eQSL inbox because the ARRL says that it will not accept its eQSLs for DXCC
awards and a large majority of their users wants things put back they way
they were. Read the complete announcement at
http://www.eqsl.org/qslcard/DXCCInfo.cfm
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Thu Apr 25 10:18:23 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Having the PC do all the work..
In-Reply-To: <00e301c1ec0d$f2970cc0$0201a8c0@yuri>
Message-ID: <20020425161823.53145.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com>
--- VA3UZ <va3uz@rac.ca> wrote: ..... it will be
enough to check our PC ..Or it will be enough to
push a BIG ENTER at the start of the
contest...(??) This is the future of contesting.
de k3ft (tongue firmly implanted into right
cheek)
Hit the 'big ENTER'.. let the PC do the work,
read the results at the end'..
This reminds me of a movie in the later 70's
entitled 'Colossus... The Forbin Project'.
73
Chuck K3FT
SO1R.. SO2R... the key.. after all is to
remember.. all the technology in the world CAN'T
beat someone who has experience, ability or a
great combination of both!
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Apr 25 17:59:25 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] e-QSL change of policy
Message-ID: <006b01c1ec72$52d67da0$891dfa43@computer>
Ted
As far as I know the only way eQSL will take files is in ADIF format. One
can also enter them one at at a time into the system on line.
GL and CU in next contest
Quack aka Rex K7QQ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tautvydas Misi?nas" <tautvydas@achema.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:40
Subject: [CQ-Contest] e-QSL change of policy
> I became e-QSL system user a while ago and it worked perfectly up to this
> major change done.Sorry,but now my inbox size reached maybe 500 QSO's and
I
> can do nothing:my attempts to upload ADIF files are vain-just very small
> files with less than 100 QSO's get through,larger do not!
> E-QSL page became extermely slow,maybe due to sharply increased
> attendance.This system needs radical upgrade to use it safely and
easily.DAT
> and DTA files should be accepted for sure.
> e-QSLing is our future definitely and system is in transition now .As
> financing to develope it is needed ,subsribtion system must be introduced.
> My appologies to the guys who are waiting my return e-QSL,maybe it will
> be possible one day...
> 73 ,Ted,LY2OX
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Apr 25 18:02:37 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
Message-ID: <007201c1ec72$a31d0720$891dfa43@computer>
Quacks
OK but Gold nugget?????
----- Original Message -----
From: "K0LUZ" <k0luz@topsusa.com>
To: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 16:40
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
> GROWL!!!
>
> If you disconnect from the mailing list, that seems to drop the number of
> times you have to read it significantly. Otherwise, just endure like the
> rest of us and there might even be a gold nugget in there somewhere.
>
> GROWL!
>
> 73
> Red
> K0LUZ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> QUACK's
>
> Gosh I'm sure we had this same discussion Last year and The year before
> etc:
> How many times we gonna have to read this STUFF
> Nuff Said Already
> Rex
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Sutcliffe" <ums@nconnect.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 13:06
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
>
>
> > Radio contesting is unfair. Someone with better antennas, radios,
> location,
> > etc. will always have an advantage over an equivalent operator with a
> > lesser station. That's life. Or, maybe it is just a natural part of a
> > competition that encourages innovation.
> >
> > The one thing about SO2R is that just writing a check and adding SO2R
> > capabilities to your station will not give you the automatic
improvement
> > that other equipment upgrades would. You have to put the effort in to
> learn
> > to do it effectively. IMHO, SO2R is the major change in contesting that
is
> > mostly based on operator skill.
> >
> > I think we should applaud those who put the effort in to operate SO2R
> > effectively. We should also applaud those who work to improve other
> > contesting skills like pulling weak ones out of the noise, better typing
> > skills, better pileup techniques, better run skills, better S&P skills,
> > etc. I don't see a whole lot of difference.
> >
> > 73 - Gary, W9XT (whose limited moves into SO2R have probably cost more
> > QSO's than they gained :-)
> >
> >
> > ____________
> > Gary Sutcliffe, W9XT Unified Microsystems
> > ums@nconnect.net PO Box 133
> > http://www.QTH.com/w9xt Slinger, WI 53086
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
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>
>
>From k6ll at despammed.com Thu Apr 25 12:25:44 2002
From: k6ll@despammed.com (k6ll@despammed.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] consider this
Message-ID: <200204251625.LAA27938@despammed.com>
Recently, N6TR wrote:
I would like to point out that the CW Sprint lists the number of band
changes for the top ten stations. This easily shows who is using two
radios and how much they are using it.
Typically, one or two of the top ten are using one radio - with six or
less band changes. There are typically one or two stations up over 100
band changes in the same four hours.
--------------------------------
I think Tree has a good idea here
that should be expanded to other
contests.
The number of band changes can be
calculated easily from the
Cabrillo log by the scorers. It is a valuable
statistic, and should be published
in all contest results, especially
now that we are starting to see
Web versions of the results,
with fewer space limitations than
in printed magazines.
For the so2r folks, they can look
at the band change statistic and
compare themselves to other so2r
ops as a measure of effectiveness.
For the so1r folks, they can skip
through the so2r scores, which will
be very apparent from the band
changes, and look at their score
as compared with other so1r entries.
By the way, kudos to the ARRL for
their on-line results for the SS CW.
The database manipulation capability
is great! Now just add the band changes,
and we'll be in hog heaven.
Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
>From n5ia at zia-connection.com Thu Apr 25 10:19:39 2002
From: n5ia@zia-connection.com (Milt Jensen)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
References:
<20020424113155.18245.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
<000801c1ebcb$ea1026a0$13ed83d1@office> <008801c1ebfb$13dc2e00$0100a8c0@joe>
Message-ID: <002201c1ec75$0232d8a0$ca01060a@dvec.org>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly Taylor" <ve4xt@mts.net>
To: "Ford Peterson" <ford@cmgate.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
SNIP
> Now, creating an SO1R category that operators could voluntarily enter --
> assuming they are indeed using only one radio -- gives an out to people
who
> choose, for whatever reason, to compete at a different level while
> preserving the high standards of the main single op category. It's a
> win-win. People who feel cheated by SO2R can now compete amongst
like-minded
> individuals while those who want to measure themselves against the best
can
> continue to do so. I suspect the majority of ops would remain in the main
> category irrespective of how many radios they are running.
>
> Remember the category refers to single OPERATOR. Even if he has three
> radios, there's still just ONE operator.
This seems logical to me. This approach would be similar to what is now
done for the Field Day contest (err, Operating Event) where the QRP entries
are allowed to enter different categories (separate score listing) depending
on whether they have a transmitter power source from fossil fueled
mehcanical sources OR they go to the extra effort of planning and
implementation of wind/solar etc. sources of power and battery storage for
all of their TX/RX power requirements. There are no rewards other than the
accomplishment of the feat and the QST report of how your operation compared
to a similarly setup/powered station.
Mis dos centavos, de Milt, N5IA; leading a 4A solar powered QRP effort from
K7EAR at DM52 in AZ this year.
>From w9wi at w9wi.com Thu Apr 25 12:49:14 2002
From: w9wi@w9wi.com (Doug Smith W9WI)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider This
In-Reply-To: <200204251522.g3PFMj9F031838@contesting.com>; from
cq-contest-request@contesting.com on Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 11:22:45AM -0400
References: <200204251522.g3PFMj9F031838@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <20020425114914.D18628@w9wi.com>
> Although I may be wrong, I suspect, just like the
> difference in total score, the effect of SO2R on
> frequency occupation is less than some imagine.
*Something* has affected frequency occupation. It's most blatantly obvious
on 10 meters during CW and mixed-mode contests, when you have people CQing
as high as 28.250. Before SO2R, it was rare (at least in my neck of the
woods) to hear anybody above 28.100 except a Novice or two.
I suppose it's concievable increased activity in Eastern Europe and/or the
AM/SSB intruders are responsible for this. I doubt it - there aren't that
many of either.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
I fear K8MR is right. I've seen situations where I've gone 5-10 minutes
without a QSO in a domestic SSB contest because *everybody* was CQing on 75
- there were no "holes" for a new CQer - and after tuning the band over and
over, literally everybody CQing is a dupe. What's the answer?
- Keep listening to dupes hoping a hole opens up?
- Keep CQing on a dead 20, 40, or 160m band, knowing it could be 10-15
minutes before you get any answers?
- Find a weak station and start CQing, knowing you'll be able to hear
callers through him?
- Start CQing on 75m 3 hours before sunset to ensure you'll have a frequency
when 40 dies?
- Switch to 2m and start DXing on 146.52?
I contest for fun, and #5 is the only one that sounds like fun to me...
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com
>From n7df at zianet.com Sat Apr 27 11:52:57 2002
From: n7df@zianet.com (Larry N7DF)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eyestrain/neckstrain - avoiding of
Message-ID: <002501c1ee0c$2c7b9780$2a7df3d8@n7df>
A study of computer related job stress was done by some Federal Agency several
years back. I think it was NIH, but I'm not sure.
A major part of the eye strain problem was found to be related to spasms in the
neck muscles from holding the head in the wrong position. Generally the
monitor screen should be slightly below eye level. For each person the exact
preferred position can be determined by the following exercise.
While sitting in the chair and position you will normally use while using the
computer, look into an open space about ten feet away.
Hold your right hand, palm towards you at arms length and slowly move it up and
down. You will notice that there is one location where it seems to suddenly
appear the clearest.
Repeat with your left hand. You will probably notice that the clearest
position will be somewhat lower than for the right hand.
Now do this with both hands at once. This should clearly show the difference
in preferred location for each hand.
Set your computer monitor with the bottom of the screen at the location for the
lower hand.
This should reduce the neck strain significantly.
Another thing you can do is get a soft cervical collar from your local drug
store and wear it when you are at the computer for a long period of time.
73
Larry
N7DF
Remember:
E=IR is not just a good idea.
IT'S THE LAW!
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 10:38:38 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251638.g3PGccC30719@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Michigan QSO Party - Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: mqp@contesting.com
Mail logs to:
Mad River Radio Club
c/o Dave Pruett
2727 Harris Road
Ypsilanti, MI 48198
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/M HP
K8AA 302 560 102 89 11 222,324
W8SH 205 356 69 91 11 122,560 MSU Amateur Radio Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Mobile LP
K8MR 655 199 63 54 12 176,553 MRRC
WT9U/M 530 123 58 48 11 124,974 SMC
AA8U 420 74 36 48 12 41,496 MRRC
K5OT/M 205 77 51 32 40,421 SMC
K8IR 242 42 55 21 11 39,976 M&MARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op HP
N8KR 112 670 60 113 12 154,662 MRRC
N9RV 145 89 58 37 6 36,005 SMC
AD8J 103 77 47 36 9 23,489 NCC
K4BAI 110 38 56 23 20,382 SECC
K8DX 76 95 77 0 4 19,019 MRRC
N8II 52 59 27 31 5 9,454 PVRC
VE7FO 38 16 25 12 5 3,404
W4SAA/4(@W1CW) 45 0 30 0 3 2,700 FCG
KW8W 0 50 0 24 2 1,200 MRRC
K1KI 16 0 14 0 1 448 YCCC
VK2CZ 0 1 0 1 1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op LP
N8TC 285 271 81 81 12 136,242 EMARC
K8KHZ 74 311 39 90 12 59,211 Hazel Park ARC
K8SIA 185 120 56 51 7 52,430 MRRC
N8EA 299 0 84 0 50,232 MRRC
K7SV 166 100 64 42 11 45,792 PVRC
AD1C 157 49 72 31 10 37,389 YCCC
W8EDU(AF8A) 136 76 83 20 11 35,844 OkDX
W8RU 173 22 64 15 4 29,072 MRRC
NY1S 118 45 63 23 11 24,116
KN4Y 150 0 73 0 12 21,900 FCG
K8GL 104 0 35 0 3 11,330 MRRC
N2CU 63 37 30 19 3 7,987 Western NY DX Assn
NF4A 52 32 32 15 6,392 FCG
K9NW 64 0 41 0 4 5,248 Sultans of Shwing
WN6K 40 25 22 14 3,780 SCCC
NO5W 39 0 30 0 4 2,340
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
Single Op QRP
N9NE/8 201 67 0 0 12 54,873 Fond du Lac ARC
K3WW 82 19 47 14 6 11,163 FRC
Operators:
K8AA K8AA,KB8ECG,NU8Z
K8IR K8IR,KG8CX
K8MR K8MR,W8DRZ
W8SH K8MAS,KB8RWQ,KB8ZGL,KB8ZQZ,KC8JUZ,KC8PUN,KT8X,
W8ELS
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 10:40:02 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Ontario QSO Party - Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251640.g3PGe2U30730@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Ontario QSO Party - Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve3sre@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Ontario QSO Party
Ontario DX Assoc
PO Box 161 Station A
Willowdale, Ontario M2N 5S8
Canada
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
HFSSB LP
VE3BUC 3 195 104 24,675
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
VE3DC 260 705 294 24 448,644 Hamilton ARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
SOABMixed LP
VE3STT 102 231 152 87,248
VE3MQW 77 158 158 79,632
VA3WN 62 152 125 10 41,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
SOABMixed QRP
VE3KZ 134 295 192 20 175,872
VA3TTT 118 113 114 17 45,578 U-VE Contest Club
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3OZO,VE3RZ,
VE3VMO
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 10:59:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251659.g3PGxZl30743@localhost.localdomain>
2002 JIDX HF CW Contest - All Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: jidx-hfcw@ne.nal.go.jp
Mail logs to:
JIDX HFCW Contest
c/o Five-Nine Magazine
PO Box 59
Kamata, Tokyo 144
Japan
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
GM4YXI 520 127 14 82,931 North of Scotland Co
ES5QX 511 123 80,688
AE0Q(@K0HM) 452 115 64,400 Grand Mesa
N0AC(@N0NI) 427 110 30 54,780
F5IN 327 107 40,232
OH1F(OH1NOA) 326 100 12 36,100 CCF
N2ED 255 96 7 29,184 FRC
K3WW 224 81 6 21,060 FRC
N6ZZ 192 82 20,910 SCCC
N9RV 161 70 3 15,190 SMC
N6HC 143 72 4 13,320 SCCC
VE7FO 120 70 9 10,780
N4GG 43 34 4 1,972 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
HB9ARF 259 106 37,630
WN6K 238 88 21 30,008 SCCC
SV1CIB 109 66 9,174
VE3BUC 86 47 4 4,042
WA6BOB 35 33 2 1,155
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/10 LP
OM5AW 466 44 10 20,504
NT6K 127 41 4 10,414 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/15 HP
UT7QF 392 46 25 17,986 UCC
N1XS(@KB1H) 101 31 2 3,131 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
I2WIJ 67 32 3 2,144 Marconi Contest Club
>From loumecseri at bestnetpc.com Thu Apr 25 14:17:32 2002
From: loumecseri@bestnetpc.com (Lou Mecseri)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020425090623.00c10c30@gsvaresm01.er.usgs.gov>
Message-ID: <005e01c1ec7d$1705ae80$bb4ad0d1@n9a1i1>
Yes, FQP is this weekend, Saturday and Sunday.
PLEASE work us.
73s
Lou KE1F
----- Original Message -----
From: John Unger <w4au@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] April doldrums
: Tree -
:
: I think the Florida QSO Party is coming up sometime soon, but that usually
conflicts with Dayton, doesn't it? Also I may be confused after reading all
the messages on this reflector, but I believe that the new FQP rules do not
allow SO2R stations this year unless they append their calls with /SO2R.
:
: 73 - John, W4AU
:
:
: At 12:56 4/24/02 -0700, you wrote:
:
: >Anyone notice how there just aren't any real contests in April?
: >
: >We have the WPX SSB at the end of March, and the WPX CW in May.
: >
: >But - with the exception of the Poisson D'Avril contest on the
: >first, there just doesn't seem to be much going on.
: >
: >It really makes it hard for us two radio guys to keep our skills
: >in shape.
: >
: >At any rate - if anyone does know of any contests coming up this
: >weekend, that might not be well publicized, please let me know.
: >Maybe the Podunk Stew Perry Kid's QSO Party Sprint or something...
: >
: >73 Tree N6TR
: >tree@kkn.net
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>From otterstad at enter.vg Thu Apr 25 20:25:10 2002
From: otterstad@enter.vg (otterstad@enter.vg)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Praha (OK)
In-Reply-To: <E170bi2-0009TM-00@f4.mail.ru>
References: <E170bi2-0009TM-00@f4.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <20020425172510.64318118AC@mail1.vg.eunet.no>
Quoting Andrey Karpov <rv1aw@inbox.ru>:
> I'm going to be in Praha with wife from 28th April
until 5th May for rest.
> We'll be staying in "CHODSKA" hotel. I'd love to
get together with other
> contesters in the area. If you're interested in
gathering, please drop me a
> mail.
Go to OK1RR's web site for more info
73
Rag w6/la5he
>
>
> 73! Andrei Karpov RV1AW & RU1A
>
>
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>
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>
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 11:31:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251731.g3PHVQZ30771@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - USA Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/M HP
W4MYA 5879 1266 48 18,332,946 PVRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 6569 1268 48 17,776,092 NCCC
N2VV(@N2RM) 4792 1144 15,133,976 FRC
AE9B 4871 1198 48 12,261,530 MIXED BAG YET UNDETE
WX5S(@W6YX) 4553 1078 48 10,743,348 NCCC
AI7B(@W7GG) 3732 1007 45 8,580,647 WVDXC
NG6O(@K6KM) 2623 905 48 5,876,165 NCCC
NK7U 1237 638 10 1,809,368 Snake River Contest
AK3Z(@WX3B) 1112 570 16 1,674,090 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
NF4A(@N4PN) 4248 1173 47 12,038,499 FCG
NX5M 3468 1109 46 8,170,003 CTDXCC
NI2W(@K2XR) 2711 973 43 6,963,761
AA5NT 2890 1031 41 6,858,212 NTCC
NZ1U(@KB1H) 2207 896 34 5,264,896 YCCC
NT6K 2254 845 48 4,173,455 NCCC
KC7V 2005 773 36 3,981,723 Central Arizona DX A
K3WW 1735 791 24 3,562,664 FRC
NZ6Q(@N6XI) 1794 721 41 3,100,300 NCCC
NN6X(@N6KI) 1670 669 48 2,262,558 San Diego CC
KD5REC 1501 663 24 2,142,153 NTCC
KT0R 1132 613 1,641,001 MWA
WK3X(@W3LJ) 1005 526 43 1,314,474 PVRC
WM6A(@K6TA) 819 433 18 784,163 NCCC
K0UH 531 339 437,988 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
WV2LI(@N2GA) 1006 492 19 1,313,640 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB HP
NV4X(K4MA) 2880 960 33 7,581,120 PVRC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 1836 749 32 2,788,527 WVDXC
KQ6LQ(K6III) 729 431 20 736,148 NCCC
K2ONP 607 379 15 625,729 YCCC
N6CCL 650 396 576,180 NCCC
KA4RRU 619 377 13 553,813
K5TWJ 554 350 26 423,850 CTDXCC
K7XZ(K1MY) 383 257 5 286,812 Central Arizona DX A
KR5DX(K5NZ) 400 289 5 259,233 CTDXCC
N4GG 230 180 5 122,040 PVRC
KC5NYO 76 75 14,775
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)AB LP
N1SNB 1100 500 32 1,429,000
K0UK 254 227 5 157,084 Grand Mesa
N6WS 215 180 6 115,380 SCCC
NA2U 100 100 27,400 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(A)SB15 HP
N3PUR 906 551 24 1,199,527 FRC
KD2HE 176 152 63,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(R)AB HP
AD6WL 1267 566 36 1,483,486 Barstow ARC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO(R)AB LP
KG4NEP 546 376 30 561,368
K8KHZ 455 319 19 348,348 MRRC
N4WSM 260 209 146,091 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB HP
N2XD 1754 669 30 3,155,004 SECC
K4BAI 1637 725 2,844,175 SECC
W6TK 1231 597 19 2,051,889 SCCC
N2ED 1229 589 14 1,937,810
N2GC 1223 593 20 1,710,212 YCCC
NX9T 1010 536 11 1,425,760 PVRC
K2BF 908 481 22 1,020,682
WT9U 606 359 8 435,108 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)AB LP
KD7ORP(KL9A) 1427 615 32 1,930,485 WWYC
K2LV 1110 562 36 1,717,472
NX6T(K6AM) 1437 657 36 1,530,900 SCCC
AI9U(K9JLS) 1152 575 35 1,512,250 SMC
N4YDU 998 533 22 1,385,267 PVRC
W4SAA 861 482 1,090,766 FCG
WN6K 859 435 29 723,405 SCCC
W3LL 592 345 22 592,020 PVRC
AB2E 608 382 568,034 FRC
WN3VAW 350 240 18 254,400 Wireless Association
W1DAD 351 240 6 221,040 YCCC
K1MOM 14 14 504 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB10 HP
NT1N 808 514 10 1,104,675 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SO(TS)SB20 QRP
W3SE 169 149 13 57,961 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB HP
KM3T(@KC1XX) 3976 1075 36 11,700,001
KQ2M 3942 1090 36 11,700,000 FRC
WK4R(K4XS) 4135 1101 36 11,239,008 FCG
WE9V(@K4JA) 3904 1021 36 10,929,805
KN1DX(K4ZW) 3857 1013 36 10,476,446 PVRC
NJ1F(S51TA) 3380 991 36 9,013,145
K3ZO 3424 954 36 8,885,556 PVRC
WB9Z 3314 1035 36 8,581,185 SMC
NB1B(@W1KM) 3080 976 36 8,181,808 YCCC
WC4E 3502 967 35 8,171,150 FCG
KR1G 3210 929 36 8,105,468 YCCC
WT6V(N6IG) 3275 1015 36 7,929,180 NCCC
NS4W(@N4TO) 3442 974 36 7,592,330 FCG
WZ4F(K4AB) 2848 931 36 6,248,872 SECC
K9ZO(KB9UWU) 2421 876 35 4,959,912 SMC
KT6RU(K6IF) 2389 817 29 4,859,516 NCCC
KZ6D(W6NL) 2150 795 31 4,267,560 NCCC
N3HXQ 1957 734 36 3,761,016 PVRC
NI8L(N8KM) 1643 668 34 2,722,100 NCC
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1222 555 1,365,855
KO7X(@KI7WX) 900 471 11 1,081,887 PVRC
WO4O(K0EJ) 726 417 9 675,540 TCG
N4CW 593 390 13 605,280 PVRC
NW6P(K6RIM) 718 407 11 549,043 NCCC
AA4V 540 343 4 510,727 Carolina DX Assn
KI7Y 578 357 24 471,954 WVDXC
K6LRN 333 255 208,640 NCCC
K5YAA 277 211 6 145,379 OkDX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB LP
K5TR 2183 786 3,423,030 CTDXCC
KS9K(N4TZ) 1506 669 36 2,667,972 SMC
AC0W 1659 714 36 2,552,550 MWA
K8EP 1332 621 35 2,166,669
N5DO 1093 544 35 1,526,464
K5IID 1018 523 30 1,370,260 MRRC
AA6PW 961 441 22 1,105,146 SCCC
KI5DR(@W5KFT) 1003 508 24 1,017,524 CTDXCC
WK6I 765 452 35 800,492 SCCC
K8GL 570 358 12 541,654 MRRC
WB0TRA 598 357 23 442,323 MWA
W0ETT 534 339 14 424,428 Grand Mesa
K4EU 428 336 10 396,144 PVRC
WA7YAZ 475 280 309,960
K5PI(@W5KFT) 390 267 10 245,106 CTDXCC
N1LW 341 253 222,387 YCCC
K6OWL 254 173 96,188
WS4NC(N4VHK) 173 141 2 52,029 PVRC
AB0MV 136 121 36,905 Grand Mesa
K5WPN 214 30 10 23,598
W6ZZZ 95 83 13,944 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOAB QRP
N0KE(@WB0GAZ) 930 473 36 1,057,628 Grand Mesa
W1AMF 455 1147 18 339,512
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 HP
NN5P(W5PR) 2495 889 4,994,402 TDXS
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1707 796 33 3,419,616 MRRC
N4BP 1650 704 2,788,275 FCG
KT8X 1319 655 2,107,135
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 LP
KS2G 603 380 13 586,720 Order of Boiled Owls
WW4KY(K4WW) 150 118 2 45,666 KCG
KU8E/M 46 43 1 4,128 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB10 QRP
AA8UP 96 85 5 22,695 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 HP
N3HBX 1866 787 3,724,084 PVRC
K3NM 1783 802 34 3,637,070 FRC
W4WTB 1586 763 34 3,151,953 Carolina DX Associat
N6WIN(@W2IJ) 1204 580 28 1,452,320 SCCC
N5KC(W5ASP) 1205 573 1,276,644 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 LP
AA0NW(W0AH) 1139 604 26 1,487,652 Grand Mesa
N4MO 857 538 28 1,159,928 PVRC
WM5R(@N5XU) 110 92 5 15,732 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB15 QRP
N3XT 235 194 15 100,492 Grand Mesa Contester
W1CTN 143 134 6 42,076 Connecticut Radio So
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB160 HP
WO9S 46 38 2,660 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 HP
KX8R(K8DX) 1709 726 20 3,244,494 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB20 LP
K0FX 164 155 8 60,915 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
USA SOSB40 HP
W9SE 236 172 113,692 SMC
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ1U KB1DFB,KB1H,N1XS
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
YW4M DL2GG,YV2IF,YV3AZC,YV4FZM,YV4GLD,YV4GME,YV4YC,
YV5AMH,YV5EED,YV5IQJ,YV5IVB,YV5LMW
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Apr 25 11:33:34 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores
25Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204251733.g3PHXYt30780@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX Contest, SSB - Non-USA Claimed Scores 25Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXSSB@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M HP
YW4M 9455 1415 48 45,210,665
OT2A 9687 1523 37,950,114
L75FM(@LU4FM) 8246 1420 48 36,494,000 RADIO CLUB ROSARIO
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7750 1350 48 25,500,000
J6DX 5838 1188 48 17,790,300 SWODXA
VE5RI 3766 1078 48 10,411,324
J41K 4133 1034 8,532,568 RADIO AMATEUR ASOCCI
VE7SCC 2120 0 48 4,406,904 Coquitlam Amateur Ra
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/M LP
SK5EW 1547 688 43 2,434,832 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
D44TD 8100 1365 48 35,000,000 Marconi Contest Club
HC8N 7061 1331 30,244,313
P40V 6610 1251 48 25,617,978 NCCC
3V8BB 5868 1238 48 23,900,828 YU CC
FM5GU 6553 1273 48 22,729,415 The Pordenone Gangst
P41P(P43P) 5343 1188 19,934,640
TM5C(@F6CTT) 5223 1305 48 19,143,045 Les Nouvelles DX
WP2Z 5239 1162 48 15,690,486 NCCC
UP0L(@UN8LW) 4297 1109 48 14,931,576
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 4226 1124 48 14,750,252 URAL CONTEST GROUP
LR0N 3894 1150 47 13,651,650
DL6RAI 4091 1202 13,173,920 BCC
OM7M 4198 1200 48 13,032,000
AL1G(@KL7Y) 3928 1143 48 12,910,185
9A1P 4023 1132 48 12,122,588 WWYC
RT9W 3649 1005 11,861,010 Bashkirian DX Club
DH1TW(@DF3CB) 3623 1129 10,684,856 BCC
EA1EEY 3847 1126 48 10,376,090
LY7Z 3241 1069 48 9,317,404 Lithuanian DX
VE6SV 3004 1073 8,737,439
OH1F(@OH1AF) 3273 1069 48 8,579,794 CCF
LY1YK 3056 1069 8,156,470 KTU RC
VE7SV 2797 903 36 7,580,685 BC DX Club
OT2C 2747 1038 48 7,435,194 Antwerp Contest Club
OL5Q 2779 1007 7,340,023 Tower Contest Gang
M5ZAP 2438 827 48 4,649,394
DL0MB 1945 878 40 4,127,478 BCC
VE7UF 1000 568 15 1,534,736 BCDX CLUB
DJ2MX 1000 551 36 1,360,419 Sarajevo Contest Gro
M4U 751 426 26 624,516 HARIG (Harwich Amate
OT2W 598 1312 30 501,184
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB HP
UA9AM 2772 893 7,316,349 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RN3QO 3035 1009 7,110,423 Russian Contest Club
EA5DFV 3034 981 36 6,971,967
OT2T(DL2CC) 2550 961 36 6,558,825 RR DX
UZ7U(UT3UA) 2297 852 4,326,456 Kiev Contest Group
IK3UNA 1868 657 3,045,195
VE3HG 1141 604 32 1,909,848
VK4ADC 940 486 28 1,318,518
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)AB LP
ON6CQ 1120 574 36 1,449,350
TG9AJR 325 222 180,264 QRRRRRZ Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 HP
ZW5B(PY5EG) 3390 1105 31 10,890,880 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
UA9YAB 1819 758 33 3,504,234
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(A)SB10 LP
F8AAN 839 426 20h 905,250
ZY2W(PT2ND) 697 445 815,685 BSB - DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(BR)AB LP
S58M 1201 616 1,615,768
EC5CPL 905 425 36 540,175
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 863 448 32 783,552
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(R)SB10 LP
M0GTO 175 139 7 57,268
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB HP
T93M/HI9 5514 1097 35 16,317,875
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 4684 997 36 14,287,010
ZF2AF(AE6Y) 5041 1069 36 13,434,123 NCCC
P43E 2748 860 26 7,279,900 ARUBA ARC
HA8JV 2960 965 7,240,395
VE3NE 2137 791 5,085,339
CE8EIO 1979 775 35 4,576,375
VO1TA(VO1WET) 2188 723 22 4,461,633
RA3AJ 2244 895 36 4,291,525
UA9MA 2008 760 21 4,194,440
S59KW 2151 802 36 3,892,106 marconi contest club
G5W(G0WAT) 1816 704 35 3,077,184 CHILTERN DX CLUB (CD
ZL1ANJ 1377 628 25 2,598,664
OE8CIQ 1002 523 1,178,842 BCC
VE4YU 616 373 20 616,196
IR4B(IK4AUY) 647 374 10 608,498 Marconi Contest Club
VE5CPU 360 253 8 226,182
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)AB LP
VA3UZ 2254 835 35 5,459,230 U-VE Contest Club
ED6DD(EA6DD) 1439 669 2,081,259
VE3MQW 1008 510 1,399,950
VE3BUC 1008 506 26 1,339,888
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 1002 467 13 1,050,283
VE7UQ 689 391 676,821
RA3DNC 760 437 646,323
PA0JED 318 233 10 163,333 LLCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 HP
VE3ANX 2281 878 35 5,467,306
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3RCN 185 165 12 78,210
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB HP
S50A 335 959 9,035,698 SCC
VC6R(VE5MX) 3266 1037 36 8,746,000
PY2NY 2718 898 7,358,212 TuPY Dx Group
TM2Y(F6BEE) 2611 883 36 6,765,546
F5VHJ 2905 864 34 6,614,784
SP7VC(@SP7GIQ) 2350 804 36 5,240,472
OH5B(OH5BM) 2289 830 36 4,391,530 CCF
VK4UC 1973 740 33 4,330,480 SCCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 2425 885 35 4,311,720
YL6W(YL2GD) 2175 798 3,899,826 Latvian CC
7S2E(SM2DMU) 1956 765 36 3,372,120 TOEC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1315 590 30 1,704,510 Thailand DX Associat
VA3DX 1000 558 17 1,671,210
UY5ZZ 1209 600 1,431,000 UCC
VK8AA(VK2CZ) 953 401 36 1,358,939
Z35M 806 461 689,195 Macedonia Contest Te
UA9FM 591 375 14 605,880
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB LP
VP5V(W5AO) 4333 990 36 10,409,850 OkDX
PY2NDX 2156 852 34 5,352,264
WP3C 2145 759 32 4,281,519
ZC4BS 2049 611 26 3,629,951
S52ZW 1644 740 2,934,100 SLOVENIA CONTEST CLU
DL4MCF 1616 693 36 2,565,486 BCC
OM6T(OM5AW) 1507 679 31 2,491,930
DF3KV 1376 644 35 2,050,496 RR DX
XE2AUB 1272 542 30 1,639,550
SP4DEU 1071 578 32 1,427,660
VE7FO 861 442 32 982,566
WP4BV 904 421 20 881,995
ZD9IR 756 387 15 877,716
VE3AGC 797 411 36 874,120 Golden Horseshoe DX
YL2PN 742 387 36 603,333 Latvian CC
VE5SF 628 366 9 543,510
PA5AT 648 383 15 512,454
9A/OE1EMS 385 278 255,760 SCG
VE7IO/W7 208 149 15 66,603
RW4LC 71 62 2 6,696
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOAB QRP
ON6NL(@ON4AKL) 1065 564 1,434,816
TM4K(F5BEG) 1040 547 1,346,714
VA3TTT 604 334 32 539,076 U_VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 HP
ZV2V(PY2LED) 3331 1038 35 10,082,094 TuPY DX Group
IH9/OL5Y(OK1FUA) 2680 940 7,250,000
YT0A(YU1AO) 2202 859 28 4,970,000
GM7V(GM4YXI) 2254 888 27 4,653,120
S50C(S53RM) 1855 777 30 3,717,945
VO1MP 1534 652 20 2,476,296
OM7ZZ 1312 573 2,015,814
OH0A(OH4XX) 1273 567 30 1,787,184 CCF
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB10 LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2425 896 33 6,306,944
LU4DX 1790 776 3,999,504 LUCG (LU Contest Gro
NP3P(NP3E) 1384 599 36 2,479,860
PY2SBY 1025 544 1,548,768
SP3KEY(SP3DWQ) 950 532 28 1,309,784
Z33AA 928 501 1,122,240
RV9JR 915 494 33 1,095,198 SRR
S52OP 801 456 927,504
OL5Z(OK1CDJ) 648 421 27 704,754
VK4NEF 606 390 672,360
VE1ASJ 591 378 26 556,794
HB9ARF 377 279 272,025
M7W(G4IIY) 366 251 219,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 HP
ZF2AH(W6VNR@EART 2689 871 30 5,654,532
OD5/OK1MU 2355 884 36 5,496,972
UT7QF 2334 929 35 4,825,226 UCC
OM0M(OM0WR) 2027 814 34 4,049,650
OH0V(OH6LI) 2025 795 35 4,030,000 CCF
T97M 1969 832 34 3,741,504 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S57MW(@S59AA) 1827 790 36 3,574,750 Frenks Datcha
LY6A(LY2BM) 1545 701 34 2,734,601 Kaunas Univ. of tech
H40XX(VK1AA) 1292 482 8 1,815,694 SKY C CLUB
YT1RA 1227 588 36 1,535,268 YU CC
XE2AC 662 407 13 628,408
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB15 LP
8P2K 2126 829 31 4,299,194
PS3F(PY3FOX) 1673 724 36 3,545,428 Araucaria DX Group
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 1231 623 34 2,233,455
VE7IN 560 336 18 467,040 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 HP
YT6A 550 320 410,000 SKY Contest Club
VY2ZM(K1ZM) 253 155 22 165,695 YCCC
VA3KA(@VE3QAA) 156 97 14.4 55,872 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB160 LP
4N1A(YU1EA) 154 121 38,115
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 HP
UW5Q(UR3QCW) 2519 937 5,015,761 Ukrainian Contest Cl
9A4X 2475 916 35 5,002,276 Croatian CC
LZ1ABC(@LZ1UO) 2458 888 35 4,785,432 WWYC
VA7RR(@VE7SZ) 1950 807 36 3,832,443
S51CK 1834 793 3,267,953 SCC
VE7AV 1718 748 35 3,246,320
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1532 773 30 3,175,484
LY9A(LY3BA) 1918 814 3,102,968
OH4A 1906 813 3,100,782 CCF
YT9X(YZ1KA) 1346 629 36 1,697,042 YU CC
RM3C(RA3CW) 1227 693 1,555,785 Moscow Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1295 647 30 2,460,541
OM6RM 515 362 33 312,406
SM7VZX 200 174 68,904 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 HP
9A5E(9A3GW) 1539 651 34 3,295,362 Croatian CC
PJ2H(W0CG) 1098 500 21 3,226,000 Caribbean Contesting
LA9HW 1499 581 36 2,358,279 Lima Alfa Contest Cl
KH6DV 456 240 12 656,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB40 LP
S54A 526 347 28 474,696 SCC
T94DO 402 268 250,044 Sarajevo Contest Gro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 HP
S59CAB(S53MM) 818 439 28 1,007,066 CCS - Contest Club S
YT0T(YU1YV) 779 428 861,992
Z39Z(Z32AF) 807 412 857,372 SKY Contest Club
LZ8T(LZ2CJ) 848 400 814,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-USA SOSB80 LP
T93Y 603 345 24 472,650 Sarajevo Contest Gro
S53F 589 338 453,258
S52W 513 293 338,415
SQ3HMM 209 158 5 67,624
PY7ZY 48 46 11,132
Operators:
3V8BB 3V8BB,RA3AUU,RZ3AA,YT1AD,YU1AU
9A1P 9A2RD,9A5AEI,9A6NDX,9A6XX,S56A
AA5NT AA5NT,KC5LOS,KC5SDY,KK7JS,N1CC,N3BUO,N5NJ,W5GDC,
WD5FLK
AE9B AE9B,K0LW,K0OU,K0ZM,KB0U,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD5GNO,
KG0UA,KG0US,KG0UT,KI0KH,KI7WO,KU1CW,N0SZE,N5DZX,
NW0L
AI7B K7ZUM,KR7X,W7GG,W7WLL
AK3Z AA3XZ,AK3Z,KB3GHE,KB3HAM,KB3HAN,N3YIM,NY3A,
W3ARS,W3JJH,WX3B
AL1G AL1G,AL7PJ,KL7CC,KL7FH,KL7Y,WA2GO
D44TD I4UFH,IK2NCJ,IK2UPB,IV3TAN
DH1TW DF3CB,DH1TW,DK1MM
DJ2MX DJ2MX/T94DX,DL4FAY
DL0MB DF2UU,DK9IP
DL6RAI DH1NFL,DL4RDJ,DL5RMH,DL6RAI
EA1EEY EA1BVP,EA1CS,EA1CUB,EA1EEY,EA1WX,EC1DQK
ES9C ES1DW,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,ES5RN,
ES5RW,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
FM5GU FM5GU,IV3BTY,IV3FHH,IV3JVJ,IV3OWC
HC8N N5KO,XE1KK
J41K SV1CIB,SV1CQN,SV1DPI,SV1DPP,SV1DPX,SV1ELF,
SV1ETK,SV1UK
J6DX J69AC,K5ZM,K9JE,KI6T,N9AG,W8QID,W9CEO
K0UH K0UH,K4IU
K3WW K3WW,KB3HQJ
KC7V KC7V,N7MB
KD5REC N5QQ,W5WW
KT0R K0AD,KT0R
L75FM LU1FGZ,LU1FZR,LU2FA,LU2FFD,LU2FYU,LU2JCW,LU3FR,
LU4FPZ,LU6ETB,LU6FEC,LU8FPT,LU9FDG
LR0N LU1NDC,LU2NAA,LU2NI,LU8NA
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY3CI,LY3MM
LY7Z LY2CY,LY2TA
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N2VV N2NC,N2RM,N2VV,NA2AA
NF4A K4WA,KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
NG6O AD6TF,K6KM,K6KYJ,K6RC,N6RER
NI2W K2OWR,K2XR,N2YFH,NI2W,VE3XAP
NK7U K7ZO,NK7U
NN6X K6GO,N6CY,N6KI,NN6X
NR6O K2RED,K3EST,K6AW,K6CTA,N6BV,N6RO,WA6O,WJ6O,
ZL2DX
NT6K KA6BIM,NT6K
NX5M K5NZ,KE4NT,NX5M,UA0OFF,W5PF,W5SB
NZ1U KB1DFB,KB1H,N1XS
NZ6Q KI6IV,KU6J,N6XI
OH1F OH1MDR,OH1MM
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1HRA,OK1VSL
OM7M OK2BFN,OM3PA,OM3PC,OM5RM,OM5RW,OM5ZW
OT2C ON4ACA,ON4ALT,ON4AMI,ON4JZ,ON6LY,ON6MR,ON7UN
OT2W ON4CBU,ON4CLB
P40V AI6V,KI7WX
RF9C RA9CKQ,RA9CMO,RV6LGY,RZ9CO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR,UA9FQY
RT9W RA9WW,RU9WX,RV9WB,RW9WA,RW9WW,RW9WY,RX9WI,RX9WR,
UA9WFM
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TM5C F4SGU,F5NLY,F5VCO,F6ARC,F6CTT
UP0L UN7LAN,UN7LZ,UN9LCN,UN9LW
VE5RI VA7XX,VE5CMA,VE5FF,VE5FN,VE5RMO,VE5WI,VE6EZ,
VE6RFM,VE6RZ
VE6SV VE6AKY,VE6BAB,VE6JO,VE6NAP,VE6VW,VO1CV
VE7SCC VA7DX,VE7HHS,VE7HPS,VE7HUH,VE7QRZ,VE7RJT
VE7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
VE7UF VE5DX,VE7ZO
W4MYA K4MAU,K7MX,KC4AUF,KF4QQY,KG4PMJ,KZ5OH,N4CFL,
N4DEN,N4DWK,W4DR,W4HJ,W4HZ,W4MYA,W4TNX,WA4PGM,
WK4Y,WU4G
WK3X K3NCO,W3IDT,W3LJ,WK3X
WM6A K6KO,K6TA
WP2Z K6EP,N6DE
WV2LI K2DO,N2GA
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6KLY,K6UFO,N7MH,W1SRD,W6KNS,W6LD,
W6OAT,WX5S
YW4M DL2GG,YV2IF,YV3AZC,YV4FZM,YV4GLD,YV4GME,YV4YC,
YV5AMH,YV5EED,YV5IQJ,YV5IVB,YV5LMW
>From zf2nt at candw.ky Thu Apr 25 18:57:11 2002
From: zf2nt@candw.ky (Bruce B. Sawyer)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Message-ID: <000d01c1ec82$a3cfe920$2d75883f@ibm1050257>
>Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be definitely
>out of it.
>Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
>
>73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited to
N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key (or
RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage that
it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us put
our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its knees!
CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 15:17:03 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A lot of strange BADs in UBN - actually not!
Message-ID: <20020425181830.YXOZ18777.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 4/25/02 9:23 AM, Mike Gilmer - N2MG at n2mg@contesting.com wrote:
>The more I learned (directly from them and not from
>speculation on the reflector), the more I realized
>these guys know what the hell they are doing. The
>techniques are logical and well constructed. And,
>might I add, apparently still very closely scrutinized
>by humans.
Hear, hear! I'll second this. That's been my impression. The more I
learned abotu what the contest judges were doing, the more impressed I
was that they'd covered all the angles.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Thu Apr 25 15:54:10 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (James Jarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] neckstrain/eyestrain/fatigue
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEMKDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
W2OX observed the growing number of bifocals in use
among contesters. Even continuous gradient lenses
require a certain head position for a particular
focal length. The resulting neck strain probably
also translates into strain along the spinal column.
Alex recommends a full set of 'computer glasses' for
contesting. Focal length is roughly arms length...or
average distance to your equipment from your average
chair position. This will give you maximum posture
flexibility, and minimize the strain.
I also recommend bowflex training with rowing,
as a means to strengthen the neck, back and abdominal
muscles. The result of even moderate, repeated exercise,
is a definite improvement in ability to sit for long
periods.
N2EA
>From thompson at mindspring.com Thu Apr 25 17:02:54 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0204240944510.17147-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
<E170SrW-0004AP-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
<002d01c1ec50$f817c250$20996c40@gq7mb01>
Message-ID: <007001c1ec94$30c64660$3c3445cf@default>
Barry is an MD with a speciality not a eye checker technician.
73 Dave K4JRB
> An opthalmologist! And here I thought you were a real doctor....
>
> Denny - GP for a quarter century...
>
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Thu Apr 25 21:17:13 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Consider This
In-Reply-To: <008801c1ebfb$13dc2e00$0100a8c0@joe>
Message-ID: <000201c1ec96$307925e0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
>
> Comparing SO2R and assisted is not a fair analogy. Packet requires no
> skill,
> involves the assistance of others and makes mult hunting the
equivalent of
> shooting fish in a barrel.
Of course it takes skill, otherwise the assisted ops and all the multi
ops would have many more multipliers than unassisted. It takes lots of
skill to know when to go after spots and when to ignore them, to grab
them in between cq's without losing a run, practice using the second vfo
if your radio is so equipped to tune them in and grab them, etc.
unskilled ops at a m/m miss many spotted mults because they don't know
how to properly grab them. Even worse are ops that are distracted and
let the run rate go down by spending too much time in pileups at the
wrong time in the contest.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Thu Apr 25 17:45:35 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <200204252015.g3PKFf9F009831@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <009901c1ec9a$55051640$03010a0a@office1>
OK, so let me see if I've got this straight:
The packet cluster system was originally constructed for use by contesters
during contests. It was most heavily used during the Big Six contest
weekends (ARRL DX, CQ WPX, CQ WW CW & Phone) and most of the other majors
(ARRL 10M, ARRL 160, IARU, Ca QS0, Pa QSO, etc.)
To keep it active, DX'ers were encouraged to use it during other times with
the proviso that they vacate the cluster during contest weekends. To the
point that, for example, some poor schmuck who doesn't know this, who posts
a CW DX spot during a Major phone weekend will get yelled at or even locked
out for the weekend.
Now we have a proposal that to discourage packet cheats -- that is, those
who use the cluster in an unethical manners and/or in contrast to the posted
rules of the contests -- we flood the packet cluster with so many spots as
to force the system to break down and then be useful to no one. That or ban
use of the cluster altogether. All to force the "packet" guys to shut down
the cluster system that was originally set up, for better or worse, for use
by contesters during contests.
Am I missing something, or has this reached a new point of absurdity?
73, ron wn3vaw
"There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
probably."
--John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
From: "Bruce B. Sawyer" <zf2nt@candw.ky>
To: <va3uz@rac.ca>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
>Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be definitely
>out of it.
>Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
>
>73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited to
N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key (or
RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage that
it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us put
our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its knees!
CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
>From w7zr at citlink.net Thu Apr 25 16:10:07 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
References: <007101c1eb8d$86131c40$0100a8c0@joe>
Message-ID: <002f01c1eca5$fcf506c0$35d1fea9@N1>
Good, I accomplished what I started out to do and that is to get people to
think about this subject (SO2R).
While I do not want to get embroiled in attacks and a lot of specifics I
will try to make a couple of points of clarification from my point of view.
First, let me again state this was not a statistical analysis. Anyone could
see that in the initial post I referenced my score and one other station in
my class for one contest. Hardly suggested that it was a "study" or an
"analysis". The information posted was the "data" at hand and it really was
not the sum total of the point of view. I believe several of the
suggestions made regarding a good future comparison of SO2R vs SO1R bear
review by the contest folks. What could be wrong with that?
While I have posted in the past on this subject and sometimes jokingly have
suggested many categories so "everyone" gets an award, that is not my goal.
I feel that SO2R vs SO1R is like having a race
between a Corvette and a Corvair. (Now please don't start a thread on car
comparisons). Those that think there is no advantage to running SO2R then
why do they do it? Most who do it are really first class contest operators
anyway. They do it to increase their score. They do it to advance
techniques. Then why was the technique of using packet radio swiftly put in
to a separate class? Someone suggested running packet spots takes no skill.
I beg to differ. To take full advantage of packet spotting in the assisted
category does require a bit of skill, coordination, timing and
understanding. Just about the same skills and equipment necessary for SO2R.
So why is one mode a category by itself and not the other?
Those who have said it is not a money issue. I can agree with that. There
are many ways to set up the station for SO2R without spending megabucks.
That is not my point. I could put $100K into my Corvair and it is still a
Corvair. I just feel in the spirit of competition, of trying to get more
operators
involved contesting, we need to have limited but fair classifications so
that
those who "need" to compete for the "prize" can do so on as level a playing
field as possible. For the rest of us, we can just have fun.
Oh yes, it was pointed out that there are so many other factors as to why I
was "womped". Very true. Some of the suggested differences were: It was
unfair to compare East Coast stations to West Coast stations (Whoa, I don't
think we want to get that one started); the operator for the station I
posted is "That Good" ( I stated in the original post that I take nothing
away from the other operator, a great contestor); that the soil conductivity
was different in Virginia than Arizona (Great idea, I think we should have
to submit the results of lab tests at each station and classify them by soil
conductivity). However, I was not just
writing about my station and my class but all others who are running SO1R in
an SO2R class. It still is amazing to me how many private emails I got in
support of the idea but how few were posted. Maybe some are intimidated but
still support the proposal.
Meanwhile I just will continue to try and stir
some thought on the subject.
>From N5RP at pdq.net Thu Apr 25 18:18:48 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] neckstrain/eyestrain/fatigue
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHMEMKDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020425171709.00b7f7a8@pop.pdq.net>
At 14:54 4/25/2002 -0400, James Jarvis wrote:
>I also recommend bowflex training with rowing,
>as a means to strengthen the neck, back and abdominal
>muscles.
====================>
I do elbowflex curls and my stomach seems to get bigger.
What am I doing wrong?
Do I need heavier bottles?
A Proper UK pint of 20 oz?
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://freeweb.pdq.net/perring/station.html
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Thu Apr 25 17:09:42 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <000d01c1ec82$a3cfe920$2d75883f@ibm1050257>
Message-ID: <004201c1ecae$49e69f40$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Bruce, I don't think that the intent was to bring the cluster system to its
knees. Hopefully there would be adequate preparation for this to be
effective; heaven knows the internet itself will be quite able to stand
up to the pressure -- it would only be the servers of the spotting
networks themselves that would be heavily stressed.
This would completely remove the "cheating" element from the self-
spotting act, while at the same time it would increase the usefulness
of the spotting system. Imagine -- the spotting networks would
provide 100% coverage of all CQ's, spreading the impact of new
spots to every CQ on the band... No more big packet pileups.
Instantaneously updated bandmaps that are never out of date. No
need for anyone to provide any spots of stations thay've just worked.
Your own personal approach to filtering spots -- spots no longer
filtered by your competitor!
No, although there would be much more server traffic, the server
traffic isn't the drawback to this idea. It would place a 100%
requirement on all entrants (even those who are located in quite
remote places where there is no internet service available at
all) to connect to the internet and use computers to do all of their
logging. It would put the Heathkit HW-8 and pencil gang
completely out of business competitively, and force everyone to
modern equipment and modern operating practices.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce B. Sawyer" <zf2nt@candw.ky>
To: <va3uz@rac.ca>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:57
Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
> >Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be
definitely
> >out of it.
> >Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
> >
> >73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
>
> I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited to
> N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
> EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key
(or
> RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage
that
> it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
> convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us put
> our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its
knees!
>
> CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From K4tmc at aol.com Thu Apr 25 20:17:51 2002
From: K4tmc@aol.com (K4tmc@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] May CQ arrives
Message-ID: <68.1f23fac2.29f9e89f@aol.com>
A stop by the PO box this morning resulted in the latest issue of CQ.
Front cover photo of N0GQ operating backpack-mobile in the Rockies with
details of his station inside. This month's issue is titled "Mobile Special!"
Contest related items:
Results - 2001 CQ WW RTTY DX Contest
Contesting - The Changing Face of Multi-Operator Contesting
Other interesting items:
Zero Bias (editorial) - Wood, Kids, and Radio
A Ham Radio "Voyage of Discovery" (a recreation of Lewis and Clark's trip)
County Hunting on the Road (and a County-Hunting primer)
The Fifth Annual CQ National Foxhunting Weekend
Reader Survey - ethics of ham radio and results of survey on refarming Novice
bands
World of Ideas - Mobiling 2002, More Ideas and New Goodies
Radio Classics - Mobile Operation in the '50s
What's New - Goodies Galore
Manufacturer Previews at Charlotte Hamfest (new items from Ten-Tec, Heil, and
Icom)
How It Works - Solar Power, The Easy Way
DX - Operating Procedures
VHF Plus - Mobile Hamming, A Driving Distraction?
Propagation - What is a CME? (coronal mass ejection)
Ads:
Heil Sound has full-page ad featuring the Pro-Set Plus and Traveler headsets,
and Classic, ICM, and Goldline microphones.
And more?
Don't forget the Florida QSO Party this weekend!!! (Jim, send the check to my
callbook address)
73 & High Rates,
Henry Pollock - K4TMC
Raleigh, NC
>From w2up at mindspring.com Fri Apr 26 02:00:59 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [SECC] Eyes and Contests (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <007001c1ec94$30c64660$3c3445cf@default>
Message-ID: <3CC8A6CB.17059.30549E7@localhost>
Dave,
Thanks for your support. Actually, I think Denny was being a bit tongue
in cheek with his comment. I did reply privately to him that it didn't
surprise me he was a GP, as he couldn't even spell ophthalmologist
correctly :.)
Barry W2UP
On 25 Apr 2002 David L. Thompson wrote:
> Barry is an MD with a speciality not a eye checker technician.
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
> > An opthalmologist! And here I thought you were a real doctor....
> >
> > Denny - GP for a quarter century...
> >
>
>
>
--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Thu Apr 25 21:04:23 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
References: <007101c1eb8d$86131c40$0100a8c0@joe>
<002f01c1eca5$fcf506c0$35d1fea9@N1>
Message-ID: <066f01c1eccf$11d0b340$ede3c23f@KR6X.ORG>
Richard Zalewski <w7zr@citlink.net> wrote:
> Good, I accomplished what I started out to do and that is to get
people to
> think about this subject (SO2R).
Truly, I'd have to respond that you did not attain your goal. What
you did
was to reopen a stale topic and give a few of us a chance to get in
some
zingers. The vast majority of respondents posted opinions in
opposition to
the views you presented. Most were taken aback by your pronouncement
that the numeric comparison between your score and a leading scorer
could be attributed primarily to your own personal choice of issues
(SO2R).
Most of the respondents who seemed to agree with you also seemed to
be at a loss when presenting their views. One made comparisons
clearly
showing that he thought all SO2R competitors routinely called CQ on
two bands simultaneously. Others vastly overestimated the score
advantage that is attained through SO2R or suggested flawed
statistical
methods that they thought we should use to evaluate the value of SO2R
to the competitor. Clearly each of them believed they were presenting
valid arguments, even though their arguments wouldn't stand up under
the weight of examination.
Out of the discussion, one quite interesting suggestion surfaced:
Rather than considering a column showing SO1R or SO2R as a statistic,
the suggestion that the number of bandchanges in the log be printed
was
interesting, to me at least.
Those of us who wish to interpret this as an indicator of possible
SO2R
operation could do so -- and your own personal position would be
buoyed. Those of us who wish to interpret this as an indication of
"hustle" can do so. And those of us who object to the concept of
stigmatizing the use of two rigs with a label (TLA) and a column
(SO2R or SO1R) in the magazines that would provide fuel for
further attacks on everything that represents excellence in contest
operating wouldn't be offended. These kinds of numbers would be
interesting totop competitors when reading the contest results.
But in the final analysis, the majority of respondents simply said
that
this topic is stale, and they tire from hearing about it. I, for one,
disagree. I tend to believe that even a stale topic is worth the
effort
of fighting through dozens of boring, ill tempered, poorly presented
opinions as long as some comedian can push a good joke into the
thread somewhere along the way.
KR6X
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>
To: "cq-contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
> Good, I accomplished what I started out to do and that is to get
people to
> think about this subject (SO2R).
>
> While I do not want to get embroiled in attacks and a lot of
specifics I
> will try to make a couple of points of clarification from my point
of view.
>
> First, let me again state this was not a statistical analysis.
Anyone could
> see that in the initial post I referenced my score and one other
station in
> my class for one contest. Hardly suggested that it was a "study" or
an
> "analysis". The information posted was the "data" at hand and it
really was
> not the sum total of the point of view. I believe several of the
> suggestions made regarding a good future comparison of SO2R vs SO1R
bear
> review by the contest folks. What could be wrong with that?
>
> While I have posted in the past on this subject and sometimes
jokingly have
> suggested many categories so "everyone" gets an award, that is not
my goal.
> I feel that SO2R vs SO1R is like having a race
> between a Corvette and a Corvair. (Now please don't start a thread
on car
> comparisons). Those that think there is no advantage to running
SO2R then
> why do they do it? Most who do it are really first class contest
operators
> anyway. They do it to increase their score. They do it to advance
> techniques. Then why was the technique of using packet radio
swiftly put in
> to a separate class? Someone suggested running packet spots takes
no skill.
> I beg to differ. To take full advantage of packet spotting in the
assisted
> category does require a bit of skill, coordination, timing and
> understanding. Just about the same skills and equipment necessary
for SO2R.
> So why is one mode a category by itself and not the other?
>
> Those who have said it is not a money issue. I can agree with that.
There
> are many ways to set up the station for SO2R without spending
megabucks.
> That is not my point. I could put $100K into my Corvair and it is
still a
> Corvair. I just feel in the spirit of competition, of trying to
get more
> operators
> involved contesting, we need to have limited but fair
classifications so
> that
> those who "need" to compete for the "prize" can do so on as level a
playing
> field as possible. For the rest of us, we can just have fun.
>
> Oh yes, it was pointed out that there are so many other factors as
to why I
> was "womped". Very true. Some of the suggested differences were: It
was
> unfair to compare East Coast stations to West Coast stations (Whoa,
I don't
> think we want to get that one started); the operator for the station
I
> posted is "That Good" ( I stated in the original post that I take
nothing
> away from the other operator, a great contestor); that the soil
conductivity
> was different in Virginia than Arizona (Great idea, I think we
should have
> to submit the results of lab tests at each station and classify them
by soil
> conductivity). However, I was not just
> writing about my station and my class but all others who are running
SO1R in
> an SO2R class. It still is amazing to me how many private emails I
got in
> support of the idea but how few were posted. Maybe some are
intimidated but
> still support the proposal.
>
> Meanwhile I just will continue to try and stir
> some thought on the subject.
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>From harri.mantila at nokia.com Fri Apr 26 13:50:47 2002
From: harri.mantila@nokia.com (harri.mantila@nokia.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Portugal de OH6YF
Message-ID: <A242AFEC69697D40B6094A94B2C192AA096192@esebe011.NOE.Nokia.com>
Hello!
I'll be visiting Lisbon from the 2nd to the 4th of May 2002.
It would be nice to meet some HAMs while I am there.
QRZ?
73,
Harry OH6YF
___________________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH?MYF-M?BYF
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
Tel: +358-50-5472478
>From n2mg at contesting.com Fri Apr 26 05:14:20 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
Message-ID:
<20020426041421.7091.h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Thu, 25 April 2002, "Richard Zalewski" wrote
> Those that think there is no advantage to running
> SO2R then why do they do it?
Who ever said this?
> Most who do it are really first class contest
> operators anyway. They do it to increase their
> score. They do it to advance techniques. Then why
> was the technique of using packet radio swiftly put
> in to a separate class?
Why does the analogy of packet use and SO2R keep coming
up? I see absolutely no connection (other than the
attempts by those who don't use them to want to
separate themselves from those that do).
The primary (potential) advantage of packet comes from
other operators' efforts. Use of packet, in the past,
forced single operators (who didn't want to cheat) to
claim Multi-Multi. Creating a category for assisted
operation allowed single operators to not have to claim
multi-operator. The key word is OPERATOR.
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From aa4lr at arrl.net Fri Apr 26 12:04:32 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Absurdity...
Message-ID: <1020326110405.LAA24842@gate.iterated.com>
On 4/25/02 4:45 PM, Ron Notarius WN3VAW at wn3vaw@fyi.net wrote:
>Am I missing something, or has this reached a new point of absurdity?
Hey, in contesting, we're pushing the limits of absurdity all the time!
--
(During the last NAQP, my wife remarked to my daughters that I was
involved in a "QSO Party" downstairs. My girls picked up on the word
"party" and asked if they could go. So, they came down to the shack for a
visit. A few minutes later, they came back upstairs. "Mama, how can daddy
be at a party? He's just sitting down there all by himself....")
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From n4vhk at summitschool.com Fri Apr 26 13:19:10 2002
From: n4vhk@summitschool.com (Henry Heidtmann)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NC QSO Party results are posted!
Message-ID: <3CC97DFE.7CC65A6@summitschool.com>
The 2002 NC QSO Party results have been posted at the Forsyth Amateur
Radio Club website.
http://www.w4nc.org
Thanks for everyone's participation- we hope to see you next year!
Plaques and certifcates will be out by the middle of May!
See you all at Dayton-
73,
Henry Heidtmann, N4VHK
NC QSO Party Chair
Winston-Salem, NC
>From trogo at telegraphy.com Fri Apr 26 10:25:18 2002
From: trogo@telegraphy.com (Tony Rogozinski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dayton Ticket
Message-ID: <025d01c1ed3e$f4a39100$012cfea9@ph.cox.net>
I ended up with an extra $17 admission ticket - will sell it for $14 plus an
SASE -
beat the crowd - don't stand in line.
Tony Rogozinski N7BG
6625 West Pershing Avenue
Glendale AZ 85304
"I collect telegraph keys and most anything
related to telegraphy especially old or unusual
bugs (semi automatic keys). Please email or
call toll free 888-848-1572 if you have anything
to sell or trade!"
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Fri Apr 26 13:43:13 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Tomorrow is the Florida QSO Party!
Message-ID: <036701c1ed41$751126c0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
K4TMC wrote:
Don't forget the Florida QSO Party this weekend!!! (Jim, send the check to my
callbook address)
....I will have a check cut for you, 'TMC.....honest!
CQ-Contest robot subscribers will be pleased to learn that after tomorrow I
will once again crawl into my hole for another 11 months...
I appreciate the fact that most of the readership of the various reflectors
understands I am merely promoting an amateur radio activity that our club
sponsors. I try to do it in a lighthearted fashion to make it a little more
palatable.
There is one group I appear to have accidentally offended this year with my
postings and I have reassured one of their senior members, and asked that he
inform them, that this was not my intent. If you feel I have stepped on your
toes please accept my apologies.
The Florida QSO Party has been blessed with great participation the past few
years since it was taken over by the Florida Contest Group, and we take pride
in routinely activating all 67 of Florida's counties my employing contesters to
mobile between the less activated ones.
Why do contesters do this - fun. How do contesters have fun - running
stations....your help in allowing us to have fun this weekend would be
appreciated...we will be waiting for you as we cross the county lines...the
"fresh meat" pileups are a blast - hope to see you in there!
FQP details/records/results/downloads adn more can be found at our world class
website (tnx WD4AHZ) it is at:
http://www.qsl.net/fqp
[note that the qsl.net server is having problems today but should be up shortly]
ThE PARTY starts tomorrow at noon Eastern time...
Thanks again,
Jim, K4OJ
Florida Contest Group
Sponsors: The Florida QSO Party
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Apr 26 14:20:44 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <200204261604.g3QG4f9F026749@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <030101c1ed48$fa19af20$03010a0a@office1>
So now the solution to stopping cluster cheats is to force everyone to use
the cluster and to effectively discourage or ban those who don't from
participating in the contest? In other words, to stop the cheats we ban the
operators who can not possible have been cheating?
I was wrong before. THIS is the latest height in absurdity.
73, ron wn3vaw
"There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
probably."
--John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
Bruce, I don't think that the intent was to bring the cluster system to its
knees. Hopefully there would be adequate preparation for this to be
effective; heaven knows the internet itself will be quite able to stand
up to the pressure -- it would only be the servers of the spotting
networks themselves that would be heavily stressed.
This would completely remove the "cheating" element from the self-
spotting act, while at the same time it would increase the usefulness
of the spotting system. Imagine -- the spotting networks would
provide 100% coverage of all CQ's, spreading the impact of new
spots to every CQ on the band... No more big packet pileups.
Instantaneously updated bandmaps that are never out of date. No
need for anyone to provide any spots of stations thay've just worked.
Your own personal approach to filtering spots -- spots no longer
filtered by your competitor!
No, although there would be much more server traffic, the server
traffic isn't the drawback to this idea. It would place a 100%
requirement on all entrants (even those who are located in quite
remote places where there is no internet service available at
all) to connect to the internet and use computers to do all of their
logging. It would put the Heathkit HW-8 and pencil gang
completely out of business competitively, and force everyone to
modern equipment and modern operating practices.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce B. Sawyer" <zf2nt@candw.ky>
To: <va3uz@rac.ca>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:57
Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
> >Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be
definitely
> >out of it.
> >Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
> >
> >73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
>
> I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited to
> N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
> EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key
(or
> RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage
that
> it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
> convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us put
> our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its
knees!
>
> CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From nat at ajheatwole.com Fri Apr 26 17:14:43 2002
From: nat@ajheatwole.com (Nat Heatwole)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The Purpose of Contest Categories
References: <007101c1eb8d$86131c40$0100a8c0@joe>
<002f01c1eca5$fcf506c0$35d1fea9@N1> <066f01c1eccf$11d0b340$ede3c23f@KR6X.ORG>
Message-ID: <006901c1ed5f$06f9e140$6ec214ac@guilford.edu>
I've been on this reflector a while now and I've noticed that the SO2R
debate tends to be cyclical. It starts when someone complains about SO2R
or SO2R operators, the new category debate starts up, the mud is slung,
and it ends when people get tired of the thread. I usually don't
participate in the SO2R debate but I think it's about time I said
something as I'm getting sick of the ignorance surrounding it.
I've come to realize after watching the hundreds of posts about SO2R on
the reflector over the years that a lot of people don't understand why
there are different categories in contests. There is a methodology to
it, believe it or not. Contest categories are intended for one or both
of the following reasons:
1. To distinguish between a different numbers of operators and/or
simultaneous transmissions (ie. M/S, M/2, M/M).
2. To correct for elements that will produce an INHERENT unfairness or
advantage.
Look around, all contests have this scheme to their categories. However,
many don't realize what an "inherent unfairness" is. Here's the
definition:
-INHERENT UNFAIRNESS (def): any advantage in a contest that is mutually
exclusive of operator skill and station location where the *mere
addition* of a particular element or aspect increases an operator's
score.
In other words, adding a component that *in and of itself* increases
your score is an inherent advantage. Components of this nature include
amplifiers, as turning on an amp gives one an inherent advantage even if
one's operator skill was to remain constant because amps give the
ability to break pileups more easily, it "opens" the band earlier, and
CQing becomes much easier. All of these will increase one's score
independently of one's operating skill and QTH.
If you have operator A and he turns on 1500w as opposed to previously
running 100w and his operator skills remains the same under both
scenarios his score will be inherently higher with 1500w because of the
above reasons. Therefore 1500w is an inherent advantage over 100w and
that is why power categories (QRP, LP, HP) exist.
Some have brought up the packet issue, the fact that there is a separate
category for this. This is necessary because of #1. Because more than
one operator is (indirectly) contributing to a station's score an
additional category is appropriate and necessary.
The SO2R category controversy is fueled by that fact that 1) many people
have never really operated SO2R and 2) many people don't understand how
SO2R works. It *DOES NOT* provide an inherent advantage. Actually, when
everyone tries SO2R there score go DOWN initially, some for long periods
of time. In other words, it's the antithesis of an inherent advantage;
it's an inherent disadvantage. And because only one operator and one
transmitted signal at any time is present there is no justification for
a new category. In order to profit from SO2R operating one must work at
it a LOT over many contests and over many years. In other words, they
must develop operating skill surrounding it; just adding another radio
has no inherent advantage.
If a new category were to be created for SO2R it would:
1. Discourage creativity and innovation in contesting.
2. Discourage operators from investing time, money, and effort in their
stations.
3. Discourage competition.
4. Discourage operators from advancing their operating skill.
Any one of those four (let alone ALL four at once) will kill contesting.
Yes SO2R is an advantage, just like operating skill is an advantage, but
it is an *acquired* advantage not an inherent advantage and therefore
not unfair to possess. Also, there's the question of how to define SO2R
as well as the onslaught of new categories if we were to separate SO2R
from SO1R. Take CQ WW for example. If we made SO2R a new category in CQ
WW there would be 42 new categories:
SO2R AB QRP
SO2R AB QRP (A)
SO2R AB LP
SO2R AB LP (A)
SO2R AB HP
SO2R AB HP (A)
SO2R 160m QRP
SO2R 160m QRP (A)
SO2R 160m LP
SO2R 160m LP (A)
SO2R 160m HP
SO2R 160m HP (A)
SO2R 80m QRP
SO2R 80m QRP (A)
SO2R 80m LP
SO2R 80m LP (A)
SO2R 80m HP
SO2R 80m HP (A)
SO2R 40m QRP
SO2R 40m QRP (A)
SO2R 40m LP
SO2R 40m LP (A)
SO2R 40m HP
SO2R 40m HP (A)
SO2R 20m QRP
SO2R 20m QRP (A)
SO2R 20m LP
SO2R 20m LP (A)
SO2R 20m HP
SO2R 20m HP (A)
SO2R 15m QRP
SO2R 15m QRP (A)
SO2R 15m LP
SO2R 15m LP (A)
SO2R 15m HP
SO2R 15m HP (A)
SO2R 10m QRP
SO2R 10m QRP (A)
SO2R 10m LP
SO2R 10m LP (A)
SO2R 10m HP
SO2R 10m HP (A)
You think CQ is slow at returning certificates and plaques now, just
imagine. And CQ WPX (for example) would be even worse as it includes
several categories not found in CQ WW, notably rookie (R), band
restricted (BR), and tribander-single element (TS). I don't have the
energy to type all of those new SO2R categories out and neither does CQ
(one reason why they haven't adopted a SO2R category).
And another thing. Any activity discouraging SO2R means that less people
will operate SO2R. And when less people operate SO2R that means
*EVERYONE'S* score goes down because less total QSO's will be made in
any given contest. That's just what we need in contesting, less Q's.
That's the problem that has nearly killed SS several times.
People who want a new class for SO2R don't understand SO2R and/or
they're confusing it's acquired advantage with an inherent advantage.
When you discourage innovation and skill, contesting ends. If you don't
like SO2R don't operate it. If you do not wish to advance your operating
skill through that avenue (like K3ZO), if instead you wish to acquire it
other ways that's great. But don't complain about others who chose to
acquire it that way and don't segregate these individuals into their own
category just because you don't like their (acquired) skill advantage.
KQ2M beats the *&%$ out of me in every contest due (in part) to his
excellent, highly refined operating skill of which SO2R is one and only
one component. Do I claim he has an advantage, ABSOLUTLY! But it's not
an unfair one, it took him years to acquire and he still claims to be in
the process of perfecting it. I'm happy for Bob. I don't wish him to be
in another class just because he undertakes ventures that increase his
operating skill. That's what radiosport is about and Bob is what all
contesters should strive to be.
If you like SO2R operate it. If you don't like SO2R don't operate it.
But if you chose not to operate it, don't claim it should have it's own
category because that's NOT WHY categories exist. Only when this is
understood will the cyclical SO2R debate finally end.
73, Nat, WZ3AR
<nat@ajheatwole.com>
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Fri Apr 26 16:52:09 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
References: <200204261604.g3QG4f9F026749@contesting.com>
<030101c1ed48$fa19af20$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <019f01c1ed75$0042d120$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
Right, an unfortunate side effect preventing the use of
what is effectively a great idea but for the side effect.
Sure would have cut down on those busted spots...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 10:20
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
> So now the solution to stopping cluster cheats is to force everyone to use
> the cluster and to effectively discourage or ban those who don't from
> participating in the contest? In other words, to stop the cheats we ban
the
> operators who can not possible have been cheating?
>
> I was wrong before. THIS is the latest height in absurdity.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "There must be some mistake. The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
> probably."
> --John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leigh S. Jones, KR6X" <kr6x@kr6x.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
>
> Bruce, I don't think that the intent was to bring the cluster system to
its
> knees. Hopefully there would be adequate preparation for this to be
> effective; heaven knows the internet itself will be quite able to stand
> up to the pressure -- it would only be the servers of the spotting
> networks themselves that would be heavily stressed.
>
> This would completely remove the "cheating" element from the self-
> spotting act, while at the same time it would increase the usefulness
> of the spotting system. Imagine -- the spotting networks would
> provide 100% coverage of all CQ's, spreading the impact of new
> spots to every CQ on the band... No more big packet pileups.
> Instantaneously updated bandmaps that are never out of date. No
> need for anyone to provide any spots of stations thay've just worked.
> Your own personal approach to filtering spots -- spots no longer
> filtered by your competitor!
>
> No, although there would be much more server traffic, the server
> traffic isn't the drawback to this idea. It would place a 100%
> requirement on all entrants (even those who are located in quite
> remote places where there is no internet service available at
> all) to connect to the internet and use computers to do all of their
> logging. It would put the Heathkit HW-8 and pencil gang
> completely out of business competitively, and force everyone to
> modern equipment and modern operating practices.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce B. Sawyer" <zf2nt@candw.ky>
> To: <va3uz@rac.ca>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:57
> Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] Dodgy spotting 'witch-hunt'
>
>
> > >Then it will be a "spot sending and reading Contest" and I'll be
> definitely
> > >out of it.
> > >Still vote for shutting down all the clusters during major Contests.
> > >
> > >73 yuri (still VA3UZ)
> >
> > I still think the suggestion K5TR put out the other day (and credited
to
> > N5KO) is the best I've heard yet. Allow self-spotting, and encourage
> > EVERYBODY to put out a spot on themselves every time they hit the F1 key
> (or
> > RTN for TR). Then the cluster system would be so flooded with garbage
> that
> > it would be useless to anybody and everybody. We would never be able to
> > convince the packet guys to shut down voluntarily, but if enough of us
put
> > our heads together we could bring the worldwide cluster system to its
> knees!
> >
> > CU Dayton? de Bruce, ZF2NT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
>
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>From k1ea at contesting.com Fri Apr 26 19:57:32 2002
From: k1ea@contesting.com (K1EA)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Free CT for New England Qso Party
Message-ID: <000201c1ed75$bfc638c0$c801010a@home.k1ea.com>
I have placed a free download of CT on www.k1ea.com for use in the New
England QSO Party.
This is the full CT, except it says registered to New England QSO Party.
I hope this helps participation.
73,
Ken K1EA
>From trogo at telegraphy.com Fri Apr 26 17:09:49 2002
From: trogo@telegraphy.com (Tony Rogozinski)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dayton Ticket
Message-ID: <03c701c1ed77$76c68f60$012cfea9@ph.cox.net>
The ticket is sold.
"I collect telegraph keys and most anything
related to telegraphy especially old or unusual
bugs (semi automatic keys). Please email or
call toll free 888-848-1572 if you have anything
to sell or trade!"
>From w3cf at comcast.net Fri Apr 26 21:14:59 2002
From: w3cf@comcast.net (Doug Priest)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition in a box
Message-ID: <NFBBKEEFALNKFAKNGPCKGEMCCDAA.w3cf@comcast.net>
http://www.casesbypelican.com/
Just put IC-751a, MFJ Voice Keyer, Bencher Paddles, and Laptop computer in
the Pelican 1650 case.
I'm impressed. 69 pounds :-)
Water tight, air tight, corrosion proof protection for your DXpedition.
Unconditional lifetime guarantee......
It locks and rolls, too.....
73
Doug W3CF /V26DX
Doug Priest W3CF
Hatfield, Pa.
19440-3958
Doug@W3CF.com
www.w3cf.com
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Apr 26 21:31:31 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest related good deal...
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020426202716.05110ec0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
For those who are looking for good-quality shielded cable to connect band
decoders to radios and/or PCs, Radio Shack is currently running a 97 cent
sale on 30 feet (!) of double-shielded 4-conductor data/audio cable, stock
number 278-777. The local manager said it is a discontinued item. Package
says it is 4 26-gauge conductors, stranded, color coded, 100 % foil shield
with 75% braid overlay.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From al_lorona at agilent.com Fri Apr 26 19:34:32 2002
From: al_lorona@agilent.com (al_lorona@agilent.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
Message-ID: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Hi, Everybody,
I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a different check
than my correct check. On purpose. I think I used something like '55' in the
CW SS, and '00' in the phone SS. Why did I do this? I guess I thought it
would be cool to try out another number. Or to alleviate boredom. I don't
know.
I had talked it over with a friend before the contest and we came to the
conclusion that it would not be against the spirit of the rules to do so.
After all, the SS check is only a simulation of a real check anyway, which
of course is the word count of a message. And it's not the same as changing
your precedence or your section, which would have very serious consequences
for you and for others.
I suspect that some folks couldn't care less what check I sent, while others
may take exception to the practice. I want to hear all sides, because I'm
thinking of doing it again.
Regards,
Al W6LX
>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Apr 27 03:09:23 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
References:
<20020426041421.7091.h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <3CC9FA43.2DE2DA54@harborside.com>
Mike Gilmer - N2MG wrote:
> Why does the analogy of packet use and SO2R keep coming
> up? I see absolutely no connection (other than the
> attempts by those who don't use them to want to
> separate themselves from those that do).
And the problems with this is????
Tom W7WHY
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Sat Apr 27 04:11:56 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?iso-8859-1?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
References: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Message-ID: <012801c1ed90$e9487d00$b810be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
From: <al_lorona@agilent.com>
>
> I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a different check
> than my correct check. On purpose. I think I used something like '55' in the
> CW SS, and '00' in the phone SS. Why did I do this? I guess I thought it
> would be cool to try out another number. Or to alleviate boredom. I don't
> know.
>
I looked in my checkbook, and every check has a different number.
Copy what I sent *YOU*, not what I send someone else last year.
73, de Hans, K0HB
>From k5zd at charter.net Sat Apr 27 04:12:48 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
In-Reply-To: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEGNDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Send anything you want! Just make sure you send the same thing to everyone
you work and that you get it right in your log submission to ARRL (you would
be surprised how often this doesn't happen).
The only people who will complain are those using databases from previous
years. They deserve to lose a QSO if they don't copy what you send...
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of
> al_lorona@agilent.com
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 00:35 AM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
>
>
>
> Hi, Everybody,
>
> I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a
> different check
> than my correct check. On purpose. I think I used something like
> '55' in the
> CW SS, and '00' in the phone SS. Why did I do this? I guess I thought it
> would be cool to try out another number. Or to alleviate boredom. I don't
> know.
>
> I had talked it over with a friend before the contest and we came to the
> conclusion that it would not be against the spirit of the rules to do so.
> After all, the SS check is only a simulation of a real check anyway, which
> of course is the word count of a message. And it's not the same
> as changing
> your precedence or your section, which would have very serious
> consequences
> for you and for others.
>
> I suspect that some folks couldn't care less what check I sent,
> while others
> may take exception to the practice. I want to hear all sides, because I'm
> thinking of doing it again.
>
> Regards,
>
> Al W6LX
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Sat Apr 27 01:08:12 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The Florida QSO Party Starts at Noon Eastern on Saturday!
Message-ID: <020c01c1eda1$260a2080$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
It is just rolling over to Saturday here in Tampa....so for one last time
before the fun begins in 12 hours at 1600Z just thought I would remind everyone
that:
The Florida QSO Party is 0 Days Away - see everyone in a few hours!
Details can be found at: http://www.qsl.net/fqp
Start time Saturday - Noon Eastern
Start time Sunday - 8:00 AM Eastern
Both days are ten hour operaitng windows...mobiles will be criss crossing the
state hitting all the counties - some of them many times - please join us for a
Party - Florida Style!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
Floirda Contest Group
(0ne of the ops in K4FCG Mobile)
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>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Sat Apr 27 00:11:53 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
In-Reply-To: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJEEMFECAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> I suspect that some folks couldn't care less what check I sent,
> while others
> may take exception to the practice. I want to hear all sides, because I'm
> thinking of doing it again.
>
Hey, Al, I'll copy as best I can whatever anyone sends me. It doesn't matter
what you sent last year or the year before. What matters is what you send
me now, that you report it as such, and that I copy it accurately in the
log.
It's between you and the contest sponsor to deal with the appropriateness of
changing your check.
73,
dale, kg5u
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sat Apr 27 12:09:28 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Consider this
In-Reply-To: <3CC9FA43.2DE2DA54@harborside.com>
Message-ID: <000201c1eddc$00004410$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
> > Why does the analogy of packet use and SO2R keep coming
> > up? I see absolutely no connection (other than the
> > attempts by those who don't use them to want to
> > separate themselves from those that do).
>
>
> And the problems with this is????
> Tom W7WHY
no problem, which is the point of the question. So2r is ONE OPERATOR
doing all he can to win. Using packet takes assistance from other
operators which used to put you in a multi op class. The s/o 'assisted'
class was actually NOT a split of s/o, it was a split of the m/s class
into those who actually had only one operator at the radios and those
who had more than one operator at the radios.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Sat Apr 27 09:02:35 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Bogus check--check/// one guy does it with
wires!...another with wheels
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHAEOBDFAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
W6LX wrote....
>I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a different check
>than my correct check. On purpose. Al, W6LX
Sure, Al....it's not that it was so long ago you can't REMEMBER what it is, eh?
(Which is, truth to tell, my situation. Novice ticket arrived around a
year-end.)
-0-
To the guy who pointed out KQ2M's so2r prowess....I might point out that
Bob, for the most part, has done this with WIRES. Now, his
place looks like a damned spider web, with those wire beams all over
the place....but he has instant directional switching as a result. As his
tower system comes on line, look for the scores to go down :)
-0-
And then there's Dougie, W3CF, who's busy practicing wheelies with his
portable station in a box.
-0-
And we STILL haven't solved the ultimate packet question!!!
-0-
Natives are restless...snow is off the mountains in VT...must be time for
Dayton.
Jim/N2EA
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sat Apr 27 14:16:24 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ne qso party rules?
Message-ID: <000801c1eded$bbc422f0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
A problem to expect with the new CT 9.72 for the NE QSO Party for those
of you with computer controlled radios who haven't seen these bugs in
the recent versions of CT(or haven't cared because most contests are
single mode only):
Changing modes on the ts-940 or ft-1000 (the mp seems to be ok) must be
done on the computer and THEN ALSO on the radio to get them to match up.
I don't know if this applies to other radios, but it is something to
watch for.
Also noted, my f10-check mult window seems to be empty.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>From k3ft at erols.com Sat Apr 27 10:15:29 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
References: <000201c1eddc$00004410$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <3CCAB281.4167@erols.com>
Have to laugh at what some guy might think as he copies my check of '03' (for
the 2002
SS) which, when, after about 15 hours my Q number is up there as being quite
good for a
99 year old contester! HEH (Guess it's true! RF and CW DO tend to preserve one
rather
well!) IT's even MORR humorous when the folks who know me wonder how I aged so
quickly.
(I tell 'em it is due to being on 20M SSB for 20 hours during the DX contests!)
I'm with the other people. As long as it's consistent, it's what you report,
and I copy
what you sent.. send what you like!
73
Chuck K3FT
>From k1ir at designet.com Sat Apr 27 10:24:04 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
Message-ID: <nw4xvyay87pbki3.270420020924@designet-jsi>
>I'm thinking of doing it again.<
Al,
How could you? This interpretation of the SS rules is highly irregular.
Clearly, you have created an unfair advantage for yourself in using a Bogus
Check. Don't underestimate the significance of what you're doing here. Changing
your check from your actual year first licensed to 55 seems to have given you a
huge advantage in dits. Dats not fair. And changing your check to 00 in phone
seems to have given you a similar advantage in zeros. Now, some will argue that
the advantage is not that big; some will say its huge. Some will say they just
don't have the resources to implement such an advantage for themselves.
This flagrant rules violation almost rises to the level of the Bogus Signal
Report, now a widespread practice amongst hardcore contesters. How does a
dedicated DXer challenge these uncaring contest ops who continually send a 59
when the spirit of the rules dictate that correct report is "22 and please
confirm your call"? To allow these upstanding DXers to compete on a level
playing field, the category SOBS [Single-Op Bogus Signal Report] is long
overdue.
At a minimum, you must self-declare yourself as SOBC, and the CAC should
immediately begin deliberations on how to structure this serious new category
of SS competition.
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Sat Apr 27 11:07:10 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
In-Reply-To: <3CCAB281.4167@erols.com>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDGEABEGAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
I guess I'm going against the Majority on this one. Could I have
been to be the only one to have read the rules in modern memory?
The rules specify what to send for *check* in the same way it
does for *section*.
>From the SS Rules (from the ARRL web site):
" 4.Exchange: The required exchange consists of:
4.1. A consecutive serial number;
4.2. Precedence;
4.2.1. "Q" for Single Op QRP (5 W output or less);
4.2.2. "A" for Single Op Low Power (up to 150 W output);
4.2.3. "B" for Single Op High Power (greater than 150 W output);
4.2.4. "U" for Single Op Unlimited;
4.2.5. "M" for Multi-Op;
4.2.6. "S" for School Club;
4.3. Your Callsign;
4.4. Check (the last two digits of the year you were first licensed);
4.5. ARRL/RAC Section"
Check is explicitly specified. Section is explicitly specified.
Precedence is explicitly specified. Where does it say "or whatever
you feel like using instead"?
If you can justify changing the *check* in your exchange, I can
justify changing the **Section** in my exchange (so long as I'm
consistent)! In fact, as it doesn't say "*Your* ARRL/RAC Section"
it is **less** explicit than the specification for Check, which it
says must be "...year *you* were first licensed"!
Perhaps I'll send "WY' or "ND" as my *section* this year, as they
*are* ARRL Sections. From Ohio, that should provide an advantage
for me!
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Chuck K3FT
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 10:15 AM
> To: CQ-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
>
>
> Have to laugh at what some guy might think as he copies my check
> of '03' (for the 2002
> SS) which, when, after about 15 hours my Q number is up there as
> being quite good for a
> 99 year old contester! HEH (Guess it's true! RF and CW DO tend to
> preserve one rather
> well!) IT's even MORR humorous when the folks who know me wonder
> how I aged so quickly.
> (I tell 'em it is due to being on 20M SSB for 20 hours during
> the DX contests!)
>
> I'm with the other people. As long as it's consistent, it's what
> you report, and I copy
> what you sent.. send what you like!
>
> 73
> Chuck K3FT
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From kwolff at charter.net Sat Apr 27 13:12:55 2002
From: kwolff@charter.net (Ken Wolff)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [YCCC] ne qso party rules?
In-Reply-To: <000e01c1edf5$edc2edb0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Message-ID: <000001c1ee06$64390f00$c801010a@home.k1ea.com>
Fixed it. Find at www.k1ea.com
-----Original Message-----
From: David Robbins [mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 10:15 AM
To: k1ea@contesting.com; reflector ct-user
Subject: FW: [YCCC] ne qso party rules?
Alt-z closes the check call window then crashes the machine.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Frenaye [mailto:frenaye@pcnet.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 13:39
> To: David Robbins
> Subject: Re: [YCCC] ne qso party rules?
>
> At 01:16 PM 4/27/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>
> >Also noted, my f10-check mult window seems to be empty.
>
> Alt-Z brings it up I think... -- Tom
>
>
>
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> e-mail: frenaye@pcnet.com YCCC --> http://www.yccc.org/
> Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone:
860-668-5444
>From k3ft at erols.com Sat Apr 27 13:38:39 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SoBS/SoBC
Message-ID: <3CCAE21F.5BA7@erols.com>
So BC! So BS! Great idea! How about just 'BC' and 'BS' ;-)
Personally, I don't care WHAT check or section you send as long as you are
consistent
and that's what you submit under IF you choose to send in a log. If you pick a
'rare'
section, you oughta be ready to answer ALL the QSL requests tho! (AND DON'T
expect
SASE's! <grin>)
C'mon guys.. let's lighten up. I think we're suffering 'SO2R Thread burnout'
here.
Remember the line from the 50's and 60's.. 'It's ONLY a movie.. It's only a
movie.. It's
only a movie!...'
73
Chuck K3FT
>From chas.shaw at verizon.net Sat Apr 27 17:43:43 2002
From: chas.shaw@verizon.net (Charles W. Shaw)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
In-Reply-To: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDGEABEGAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
References: <3CCAB281.4167@erols.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020427163820.009d1330@mail.verizon.net>
Jeff Maass wrote:
>I guess I'm going against the Majority on this one.
I will join Jeff. In addition to what he pointed
out about the RULES, it is handy and interesting
to know the tenure of the station you are working!
And, I really was first licensed in '55!
Charles, N5UL
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Apr 27 15:04:46 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
References: <200204271603.g3RG3J9F001583@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <04f201c1ee16$087103c0$03010a0a@office1>
My college club station (K3CR up at Penn State) was first on the air in
1909, and got one of the first Department of Commerce licenses (8XE) in
1912. Now just try and convince the kids up there that they should use a
check of '12,' just like the rules state (year the station was first
licensed, right?)
A few years ago, I was told (when I got a check of "84" if I recall
correctly) that a would-be lawyer in the club claimed that under strict
interpretation of the rules, each operator was obligated to use as the check
the year HE (or she) was first licensed.
Another time, someone mistakenly used the year the club got the call (72) as
the check instead of year first licensed -- mistake was caught after about
70-80 QSO's and then they switched. This was back in the pre-computer days,
incidently... anyway this was reported with the explanation when the log was
sent in so that no one else would get penalized for our mistake.
In any event, I know the question did come up once about the appropriate
check to use -- the Penn State ARC itself only dates to the early 1960's
even though the Penn State station goes way back, which is a whole 'nother
story -- and we were told by the ARRL contest folks at the time that in the
case of ambiguity, any valid check would be accepted so long as the same
check was consistently used throughout the contest.
And consider this folks... what do we do in 10 years time when the 2 digit
check "laps"? Is there going to be a distinction made between "1912" and
"2012" checks, or are they both going to simply be "12"? (Granted, this
will most likely only affect club stations, but you never know...
I have many fond memories of Sweepstakes operating from K3CR. You can blame
my love of contesting on W3AS, WA3FET, K3UA, K3YD, AA3B, WA3WAW, the former
WA3WUD (can never
remember Howie's "new" 2x1 call) and a host of others. And then there was
the time
the Young Gun Contester (who was a student at the time but not a member of
the club) who asked if he could operate the club station SO in SS because
he'd
been disqualified the year before under his own ticket... but if I mention
his call, he'll
definitely snub me at Dayton this year. Hmmmm... tempting...
73, ron wn3vaw
'Never attribute to malice that which is adequately
explained by stupidity.' --Hanlon's Razor
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck K3FT <k3ft@erols.com>
To: CQ-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
Have to laugh at what some guy might think as he copies my check of '03'
(for the 2002
SS) which, when, after about 15 hours my Q number is up there as being quite
good for a
99 year old contester! HEH (Guess it's true! RF and CW DO tend to preserve
one rather
well!) IT's even MORR humorous when the folks who know me wonder how I aged
so quickly.
(I tell 'em it is due to being on 20M SSB for 20 hours during the DX
contests!)
I'm with the other people. As long as it's consistent, it's what you report,
and I copy
what you sent.. send what you like!
73
Chuck K3FT
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>From ve3iay at rac.ca Sat Apr 27 19:02:46 2002
From: ve3iay@rac.ca (Richard Ferch)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
Message-ID: <000701c1ee37$4525c640$6400a8c0@workstation1>
On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:07:10 -0400, Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com sent:
> If you can justify changing the *check* in your exchange, I can
> justify changing the **Section** in my exchange (so long as I'm
> consistent)! In fact, as it doesn't say "*Your* ARRL/RAC Section"
> it is **less** explicit than the specification for Check, which it
> says must be "...year *you* were first licensed"!
>
> Perhaps I'll send "WY' or "ND" as my *section* this year, as they
> *are* ARRL Sections. From Ohio, that should provide an advantage
> for me!
>
Surely you jest, Jeff!
Using a faked check is a lot like fibbing about your age in the All Asian
contest, or the commonplace practice of using a nickname in the NAQP.
Remember all the "Chad"s in January 2001? Did anyone seriously suggest that
this was a violation of the rules? Heck, there's even an award for "best
name" in the RTTY NAQP! I think the majority view you referred to is that
the check in SS is similar to these.
Using a faked section would be completely different. In SS, the section is a
critical element of contest scoring, both for multipliers and for the Clean
Sweep award, as well as for your competitive position vs. the rest of the
section. Lying about your section would attack the integrity of the contest
results and awards. I'm proud of my Clean Sweep mug, but if I seriously
thought there was a chance that some of the QSOs were with falsified
sections, I would throw it out - it would have no value to me. Not that it
is any of my business (I'm not an ARRL member), but my personal opinion is
that if a station located in Ohio were to deliberately send "WY" or "ND" as
his section, that should be grounds for disqualification. And no, I don't
think for a second that you or anyone else on this reflector would actually
do that - it was obviously a "straw man" argument!
The callsign in the exchange is another such critical element; it must be
consistent and unchanged during the contest, any particular call sign must
only be used by one station during the contest, and of course it must be a
callsign the operator is legally entitled to use.
The precedence is different. I don't care during the contest what the other
station's precedence is, as long as they record it correctly in their log
(for log checking - obviously, to deliberately record something different in
the log than what was sent over the air would be highly unethical, but I
hope we are not talking about that kind of tactic!). However, the log
checkers may wish to insist that it be consistent with the entry
classification, and that is their prerogative. Nevertheless, let's suppose
someone, perhaps for childish one-upmanship reasons, sends "Q" during the
contest, logs the exchange as such, but uses high power and enters their log
in the high power category (again, I am not talking about lying about the
power, only about using an incorrect precedence in the exchange). If
everyone could somehow be completely sure that this would not result in
errors during the log checking process or a misclassification of the entry,
would it really matter?
The serial number is similar. It doesn't matter to me if someone increases
their serial number by ten instead of by one after every QSO, as long as
what they put in their log agrees with what they sent me. Indeed, the longer
serial numbers they will have to send will probably increase the number of
fills they are asked for, so it's actually in my competitive interest if
someone else inflates their serial numbers. The log checkers may choose to
insist otherwise, of course, and have their own valid reasons for doing so.
Furthermore, they can easily enforce the rule about consecutive serial
numbers by checking the logs, just as they can enforce the precedence rule
by cross-checking the precedence with the entry class.
However, using a bogus check affects no-one at all. As long as I copy
correctly what the other guy sends, and as long as he records it correctly
in his log, who cares? Again, the log checkers may insist that it not change
during the contest for log-checking reasons. I suppose that, according to a
literal-minded reading of the rules, they could even insist that it be
correct, but why would they? Unlike insisting that the check be consistent,
which is verifiable, insisting on correctness would be unenforceable and,
more importantly, immaterial, and therefore a waste of time. Logically, a
rule which is unenforceable and immaterial may not be a very good one, but
there would be no real point to changing this particular rule even if
everyone agreed that it needn't be taken literally.
Despite the above argument, I think that Al's idea of changing his check is
not a particularly good one as far as improving his score is concerned. I
believe the net effect on his score could even be negative, as follows:
Given the widespread use of master callsign databases, there is an advantage
to using a consistent check every year, or a consistent name in every NAQP.
It's similar to the advantage everyone gets by sending 599 instead of a true
signal report in CQ WW. Namely, it may slightly reduce the number of fills,
which may in turn have a positive effect on the score. On the other hand, I
suppose using a different name or check every year or a different signal
report every QSO might improve your competitive situation ever so slightly
by increasing the likelihood of busted QSOs in your competitors' logs.
Speaking for myself, I would judge the former effect to be of more actual
benefit than the latter.
Now on the other hand, if Al wanted to shorten his Sweepstakes exchange by
moving from LAX to NE, I'm sure he would get lots of encouragement from the
rest of us! ;)
73,
Rich VE3IAY
>From swca at swbell.net Sun Apr 28 08:15:03 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
References: <000701c1ee37$4525c640$6400a8c0@workstation1>
Message-ID: <011001c1eeae$55f67560$934afea9@TL01>
I think if Al wants to send "55" as his check but it is not the year he was
first licensed, he must first find an op who was licensed in 55 like Charles
there. Charlie goes to Al's house, drinks the beer and eats the sandwiches,
and Al enter Multi-Single.
Mark, N5OT
>From aj9c at comteck.com Sun Apr 28 14:06:23 2002
From: aj9c@comteck.com (Mike Kasrich)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SS checks
Message-ID: <3CCBF3CF.7030605@comteck.com>
Ive always understood you were to use the last two numbers from the year
you were first licensed. If you don't my apple cart won't be tipped one
way or the other but the guys with the super duper master.dat files
might get confused for a second or so.
mike/aj9c
NR A AJ9C 74 IN
>From k4ww at arrl.net Sun Apr 28 13:37:16 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Rules
Message-ID: <001901c1eed2$f594d840$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
>From the "official" SS rules:
4.Exchange: The required exchange consists of:
4.1. A consecutive serial number;
4.2. Precedence;
4.2.1. "Q" for Single Op QRP (5 W output or less);
4.2.2. "A" for Single Op Low Power (up to 150 W output);
4.2.3. "B" for Single Op High Power (greater than 150 W output);
4.2.4. "U" for Single Op Unlimited;
4.2.5. "M" for Multi-Op;
4.2.6. "S" for School Club;
4.3. Your Callsign;
4.4. Check (the last two digits of the year you were first licensed);
4.5. ARRL/RAC Section
Example: WA4QQN would respond to W1AW's call by sending: W1AW 123 B WA4QQN
71 NC which indicates QSO number 123, B for Single Op High Power, WA4QQN,
first licensed in 1971, and in the North Carolina section.
4.6. With the exception of the serial number, which changes from QSO to QSO,
the exchange sent must remain consistent during the entire contest.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Usually many of a contest(s) rules are somewhat "open to interpretation"?
Many are quick to point out in another often discussed thread that "SO = one
(1) operator, regardless of the amount of equipment"? The wording of SS
rules, at least to me, leave no doubt of what an exchange should be? At no
place, within the "exchange" portion of the rules, do I find "send what you
care"? Several years ago the question of "check" came up while discussing a
m/o using W4CN (class of 27), and we were advised "that in a m/o, the check
should be that of the callsign being used"! IMHO, any proven, deliberate
deviation from the "official" rules should be grounds for disqualification?
I also notice that no one in an "official" capacity from ARRL has commented
on this ridiculous attempt at circumventing the posted rules, gives even
more reason to believe it is purely "a figment of someone's distorted
imagination"?
C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
>From kq2m at mags.net Sun Apr 28 14:16:14 2002
From: kq2m@mags.net (Robert Shohet)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Router/Firewall/Network/Internet spot problems?
Message-ID: <000701c1eed8$682227a0$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
Hi Guys,
I currently am using a Dell Win98 Ver 2 computer with a Motorola SB4100
Cable Modem and Charter Pipeline - Cable Modem Internet access. I am also
using Zonealarm Pro Ver 2.6 as my firewall.
My plan was to install a D-Link DI-704P router and then connect up my other
Win98 Ver 2 computer in the shack (a Dell optiplex running on Win 98 Ver 2).
I decided to "test" the router by first connecting it to the upstairs
computer.
I shut down Zonealarm Pro and then hooked up the router and went through the
installation process.
After it was installed, I noticed that I couldn't browse. So I went to the
Appendix and ran the "Ping" test on the gateway address - it passed the
test. But I still couldn't browse or receive e-mail.
I called Charter - my cable/internet provider and was told that Zonealarm
might be the culprit but I thought I remembered Zonealarm asking me about
something and then asking for my password to change it.
I suspect that the Router does work but I am not sure what is "blocking" the
ability of the cable modem and the computer to talk with each other through
the router. I am hoping that someone out there has a Win98 computer with
Zonealarm and the DLink DI-704p router and can tell me what I am missing.
BTW, after removing the router and reinstalling the cable modem settings,
everything works fine again.
Any ideas please or suggestions? Thanks for your help.
73
Bob KQ2M
>From w5xd at writelog.com Sun Apr 28 20:35:05 2002
From: w5xd@writelog.com (W. Wright, W5XD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SS checks
In-Reply-To: <3CCBF3CF.7030605@comteck.com>
Message-ID: <000601c1eeeb$ccdceb40$6400000a@W5XD>
For any given SS weekend, I feel free to choose either '71 (the year I know
I made my first QSO--in February) or '70 (because I seem to remember my
license date was earlier and I am too lazy to research the details).
But after sending 71 for many years, I find I get asked for a lot more fills
if I send 70. Since I am not a serious competitor and because I really
dislike the use of databases instead of copying off the air, I still plan to
send 70 some weekends just to slow down the database guys.
Wayne
>From k0hb at earthlink.net Sun Apr 28 21:59:02 2002
From: k0hb@earthlink.net (=?iso-8859-1?B?S9hIQg==?=)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Rules
References: <001901c1eed2$f594d840$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
Message-ID: <00ec01c1eeef$264a9120$4215be3f@bigguy>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shelby Summerville" <k4ww@arrl.net>
> Several years ago the question of "check" came up while discussing a
> m/o using W4CN (class of 27), and we were advised "that in a m/o, the check
> should be that of the callsign being used"! IMHO, any proven, deliberate
> deviation from the "official" rules should be grounds for disqualification?
Sunuvugun, Shelby. That's going to cause a lot of difficulty for folks with
calls which have been recycled. For example our club got the call W0EF
in 1994. Before that we were KB0SAH (1992). We got the call W0EF
in memoriam of an SK member. He got the call in 1977. Prior to that
the call had first been issued in 1924 to another fellow. I was first licensed
in 1963. Now, if I am operating W0EF in SS do I use:
A. 1924 (The year W0EF was first issued)
B. 1963 (The year I was first licensed)
C. 1992 (The year the club was first licensed)
D. 1994 (The year W0EF was issued to our club)
E. 1955 (The year my cousin Frank caught the crabs on liberty in Kobe)
I bet the ARRL doesn't care a bit which date we use, so long as we use the same
number all weekend long.
73, de Hans, K0HB
>From n4zr at contesting.com Sun Apr 28 18:18:23 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SS checks
In-Reply-To: <000601c1eeeb$ccdceb40$6400000a@W5XD>
References: <3CCBF3CF.7030605@comteck.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020428171608.025b6be0@pop.abs.adelphia.net>
At 07:35 PM 4/28/02 +0000, W. Wright, W5XD wrote:
>For any given SS weekend, I feel free to choose either '71 (the year I know
>I made my first QSO--in February) or '70 (because I seem to remember my
>license date was earlier and I am too lazy to research the details).
>
>But after sending 71 for many years, I find I get asked for a lot more fills
>if I send 70. Since I am not a serious competitor and because I really
>dislike the use of databases instead of copying off the air, I still plan to
>send 70 some weekends just to slow down the database guys.
That's good by me, Wayne -- you will join the 50 or so guys last year whose
checks and/or sections didn't agree with the ones they sent me the year
before. That's about 3 times as many as the total number of QSOs I lost
due to copying errors, so there must be quite a bit of check-changing
really going on.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From k5zd at charter.net Sun Apr 28 23:07:35 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Router/Firewall/Network/Internet spot problems?
In-Reply-To: <000701c1eed8$682227a0$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDMEHHDIAA.k5zd@charter.net>
And this has what to do with contesting? Seems there are better sources of
networking tech support on the Internet.
Although it could be a welcome change from SO2R and SS checks! :)
K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Robert Shohet
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 17:16 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Router/Firewall/Network/Internet spot problems?
>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I currently am using a Dell Win98 Ver 2 computer with a Motorola SB4100
> Cable Modem and Charter Pipeline - Cable Modem Internet access. I am also
> using Zonealarm Pro Ver 2.6 as my firewall.
>
> My plan was to install a D-Link DI-704P router and then connect
> up my other
> Win98 Ver 2 computer in the shack (a Dell optiplex running on Win
> 98 Ver 2).
>
> I decided to "test" the router by first connecting it to the upstairs
> computer.
>
> I shut down Zonealarm Pro and then hooked up the router and went
> through the
> installation process.
>
> After it was installed, I noticed that I couldn't browse. So I
> went to the
> Appendix and ran the "Ping" test on the gateway address - it passed the
> test. But I still couldn't browse or receive e-mail.
>
> I called Charter - my cable/internet provider and was told that Zonealarm
> might be the culprit but I thought I remembered Zonealarm asking me about
> something and then asking for my password to change it.
>
> I suspect that the Router does work but I am not sure what is
> "blocking" the
> ability of the cable modem and the computer to talk with each
> other through
> the router. I am hoping that someone out there has a Win98 computer with
> Zonealarm and the DLink DI-704p router and can tell me what I am missing.
>
> BTW, after removing the router and reinstalling the cable modem settings,
> everything works fine again.
>
> Any ideas please or suggestions? Thanks for your help.
>
> 73
>
> Bob KQ2M
>
>
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>From steve at oakcom.com Sun Apr 28 20:27:34 2002
From: steve@oakcom.com (Steve Maki)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Router/Firewall/Network/Internet spot problems?
In-Reply-To: <000701c1eed8$682227a0$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
References: <000701c1eed8$682227a0$03539718@ubr.charterne.com>
Message-ID: <ir0pcuco4oiarbj4162sogidmhh5n4g8jl@4ax.com>
KQ2M wrote:
>Hi Guys,
>
>I currently am using a Dell Win98 Ver 2 computer with a Motorola SB4100
>Cable Modem and Charter Pipeline - Cable Modem Internet access. I am also
>using Zonealarm Pro Ver 2.6 as my firewall.
>
>My plan was to install a D-Link DI-704P router and then connect up my other
>Win98 Ver 2 computer in the shack (a Dell optiplex running on Win 98 Ver 2).
>
>I decided to "test" the router by first connecting it to the upstairs
>computer.
>
>I shut down Zonealarm Pro and then hooked up the router and went through the
>installation process.
>
>After it was installed, I noticed that I couldn't browse. So I went to the
>Appendix and ran the "Ping" test on the gateway address - it passed the
>test. But I still couldn't browse or receive e-mail.
>
>I called Charter - my cable/internet provider and was told that Zonealarm
>might be the culprit but I thought I remembered Zonealarm asking me about
>something and then asking for my password to change it.
>
>I suspect that the Router does work but I am not sure what is "blocking" the
>ability of the cable modem and the computer to talk with each other through
>the router. I am hoping that someone out there has a Win98 computer with
>Zonealarm and the DLink DI-704p router and can tell me what I am missing.
>
>BTW, after removing the router and reinstalling the cable modem settings,
>everything works fine again.
>
>Any ideas please or suggestions? Thanks for your help.
Your gateway address may now be your router, in which case the
ping test only tells you that your home network is working.
Ordinarily you must notify your cable co. of your new MAC address
(the router's MAC address). After you do that, connectivity to the
outside world will REQUIRE that you have the router in line.
73
--
Steve K8LX
>From n5nj at gte.net Sun Apr 28 21:39:28 2002
From: n5nj@gte.net (Bob Naumann - N5NJ)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Rules
References: <001901c1eed2$f594d840$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
<00ec01c1eeef$264a9120$4215be3f@bigguy>
Message-ID: <002d01c1ef1e$b3f94640$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
K4WW stated:
> Several years ago the question of "check" came up while discussing a
> m/o using W4CN (class of 27), and we were advised "that in a m/o, the
check
> should be that of the callsign being used"!
K0HB queried:
" Now, if I am operating W0EF in SS do I use:
> A. 1924 (The year W0EF was first issued)
> B. 1963 (The year I was first licensed)
> C. 1992 (The year the club was first licensed)
> D. 1994 (The year W0EF was issued to our club)
> E. 1955 (The year my cousin Frank caught the crabs on liberty in Kobe) "
The correct answer would be "C".
Because:
The callsign being used was issued to the club, and 1992 was the year the
club was first licensed.
Does it matter really? Nope.
73,
N5NJ
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Sun Apr 28 19:49:16 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
References: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10D4@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Message-ID: <012b01c1ef20$12e4eff0$ede3c23f@KR6X.ORG>
I've been struggling over this one for the past two days. Here's my
answer:
If I were asked this question by the sponsors of the SS, I'd probably
suggest that a liberal interpretation of the rules was in order. I'd
probably
take the attitude that it doesn't really matter to me whether someone
used
his real check or some other number.
If I were beaten by one contact in a contest where the leader took a
liberal interpretation and sent 55 on CW where his real check was 01,
I would probably not complain bitterly and suggest that the leader be
disqualified for violating the rules.
But if I were the sponsor of the contest and I received a complaint
from
a second place operator who might have been in first place but for the
liberal interpretation that the leader took, I'd be forced to
interpret the
rules strictly, no matter what my personal opinion was.
So here I am, not in the position of a sponsor, but in the position of
a
friend being asked for advice prior to the contest while you still
have
choices. Honestly my best advice as a friend is that you should avoid
being challenged by second place; make certain you follow the strict
interpretation of the rules so that you will never be put in the
embarrassing position of being disqualified for such a pitifully tiny
issue.
KR6X
----- Original Message -----
From: <al_lorona@agilent.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 5:34 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
>
> Hi, Everybody,
>
> I have a confession to make. A couple of SS's ago, I used a
different check
> than my correct check. On purpose. I think I used something like
'55' in the
> CW SS, and '00' in the phone SS. Why did I do this? I guess I
thought it
> would be cool to try out another number. Or to alleviate boredom. I
don't
> know.
>
> I had talked it over with a friend before the contest and we came to
the
> conclusion that it would not be against the spirit of the rules to
do so.
> After all, the SS check is only a simulation of a real check anyway,
which
> of course is the word count of a message. And it's not the same as
changing
> your precedence or your section, which would have very serious
consequences
> for you and for others.
>
> I suspect that some folks couldn't care less what check I sent,
while others
> may take exception to the practice. I want to hear all sides,
because I'm
> thinking of doing it again.
>
> Regards,
>
> Al W6LX
>
> _______________________________________________
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>From ah3c at frii.com Mon Apr 29 06:33:38 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
References: <000701c1ee37$4525c640$6400a8c0@workstation1>
<011001c1eeae$55f67560$934afea9@TL01>
Message-ID: <002a01c1ef71$b5b0f2a0$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Mark,
Great idea! You are welcome to share Buds or Beaujolais and use my '58
check any time. I'll even do mushroom/swiss omelets for the Sunday
doldroms. Who knows, contesting from home might even become fun enough for
me to get back in the fray....We could set some sort of record in the
revised "A" category: Annebriated.
73,
Pete, W0RTT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Beckwith" <swca@swbell.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
> I think if Al wants to send "55" as his check but it is not the year he
was
> first licensed, he must first find an op who was licensed in 55 like
Charles
> there. Charlie goes to Al's house, drinks the beer and eats the
sandwiches,
> and Al enter Multi-Single.
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
>
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>
>From Cqtestk4xs at aol.com Mon Apr 29 10:50:26 2002
From: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com (Cqtestk4xs@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Checks in SS
Message-ID: <34.26c0172d.29fea9a2@aol.com>
I really don't do much posting, but this thread is interesting. Who gives a
fat rat's tail what the check is. Other than for data analysis, one check is
as good as another. I have used 62 for years, but if the urge overcomes me,
I may use 73, 88 or some other number.
Is changing your check any different than "borrowing" a friend's desirable
call or to have a secondary "club" desirable call where you are the
trustee....especially for WPX? Check the latest claimed scores for WPX.
Lots of once a year calls are in there from some big guns.
Bill K4XS(SS)...aka WK4R(WPX)
>From kg2au at stny.rr.com Mon Apr 29 11:16:17 2002
From: kg2au@stny.rr.com (Jimmy Weierich)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Rules
In-Reply-To: <002d01c1ef1e$b3f94640$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
References: <001901c1eed2$f594d840$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
<00ec01c1eeef$264a9120$4215be3f@bigguy>
<002d01c1ef1e$b3f94640$3f502104@vz.dsl.genuity.net>
Message-ID: <a05100300b8f3048b1755@[66.24.254.199]>
I became licensed as a novice in 1960. Updated to technician before
the novice expired but let it lapse after the five year term.
Became licensed again in 1994. What year should I use?
To paraphrase a former president, I guess it depends on what "first" is.
I agree with N5NJ.
Best regards,
Jimmy
>Does it matter really? Nope.
>
>73,
>N5NJ
--
Jimmy Weierich, K2LV, ex KG2AU <kg2au@stny.rr.com>
Vestal, NY USA FN12xa
>From W3DMB at aol.com Mon Apr 29 11:27:30 2002
From: W3DMB@aol.com (W3DMB@aol.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re:[CQ Contest] 'bogus' check
Message-ID: <40.1ce8c2e3.29feb252@aol.com>
Since my check was 55 (no sense changing that) I guess I have to find another
way to get an edge.
Perhaps just use initials (GW) like the real OOTs did or change my area
or if that doesn't help - just learn to copy hi-speed cw [probably the best
idea].
Jerry, W3DMB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Beckwith" <swca@swbell.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 'bogus' check
I think if Al wants to send "55" as his check but it is not the year he was
first licensed, he must first find an op who was licensed in 55 like Charles
there. Charlie goes to Al's house, drinks the beer and eats the sandwiches,
and Al enter Multi-Single.
Mark, N5OT
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 29 08:28:59 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Florida QSO Party - Claimed Scores 29Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204291428.g3TESx204326@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Florida QSO Party - Claimed Scores 29Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: FLQSOParty@aol.com
Mail logs to:
Florida QSO Party
c/o Ron Wetjen, WD4AHZ
5362 Castleman Dr.
Sarasota, FL 34232
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/SMixed LP
NJ4M(@WD4AHZ) 447 642 63 70 20 408,576 Sarasota Emergency R
AD4ES 444 497 67 70 20 188,745 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
MobileCW LP
K1KI/M 28 7 20 7 1 3,402 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SchoolCW LP
K8GU 50 0 30 0 2 6,000 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABCW HP
W4SO 693 0 87 0 120,582
VE1OP 259 0 67 0 17 34,706
K2SX 243 0 64 0 31,104 YCCC
GM3POI 230 0 67 0 30,820
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABCW LP
K8IR 319 0 66 0 18 84,216 BAY AREA WIRELESS
K5ZD 271 0 65 0 7 70,460 YCCC
NT6K 252 0 64 0 18 64,512 NCCC
W4AU 208 0 61 0 10 50,752 Loudoun ARG
W8RU 182 0 62 0 7 45,136 MRRC
K1KI 194 0 55 0 4 42,680 YCCC
NO5W 142 0 59 0 33,512
K5OT 170 0 64 0 21,760 SMC
AE9B 55 0 28 0 2 3,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed HP
K3WW 247 47 64 27 15 49,231 FRC
K6LA 142 152 55 41 12 41,856 SCCC
W6KC 98 72 39 28 6 17,956
N2ED 96 59 40 20 5 15,060 FRC
K8DX 36 19 20 14 1 3,094 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed LP
N4PN 365 1646 67 121 20 893,376 Panama City ARC
N6MU(@N6NB) 367 228 66 55 20 232,804 SCCC
W8MJ 365 216 67 49 20 219,472 MRRC
N2CU 296 112 64 41 13 147,840 Western New York DX
NY1S 223 54 60 20 14 80,000
K5WO 259 83 66 0 16 79,332 NTCC
N4PK 58 340 0 0 75,696
W8CAR 140 61 49 29 10 53,196 MRRC
N9NE 206 72 61 27 11 48,928 Fond du Lac (WI)
N4CW 114 26 54 18 36,576
W9RE 153 60 58 29 31,929 SMC
K0OU 104 37 45 20 31,850 SMC
AE6Y 86 34 39 15 3 22,248 NCCC
NS3T 79 21 44 17 5 10,919
K5KA 46 6 5 29 2 6,664
AB2E 55 27 50 32 10 6,302 FRC
VE7SR(VE7TLL) 7 11 7 9 1 800
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed QRP
K5IID 239 75 66 34 15 165,900 MRRC
K1RC 190 43 1140 129 102,789
W0ETT 116 54 0 0 9 17,446 Grand Mesa
K4IU 88 31 43 16 13,865 MWA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABSSB HP
K4XS 0 2278 0 124 20 282,472 FCG
VK2CZ 0 44 0 25 1,100
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABSSB LP
VE3BUC 0 89 0 33 4 2,937
KB9UWU 0 41 0 21 1 1,722 SMC
W1DAD 0 30 0 19 2 1,140 YCCC
W6ZZZ 0 19 0 11 209 NCCC
Operators:
AD4ES AD4ES,K9ES
NJ4M W1ROX,WD4AHZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Apr 29 08:31:15 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 SPDX RTTY Contest - All Claimed Scores 29Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204291431.g3TEVFa04340@localhost.localdomain>
2002 SPDX RTTY Contest - All Claimed Scores 29Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: sknerus@polbox.com
Mail logs to:
SPDX RTTY Contest Manager
Christopher Ulatowski
Box 253
81-963 Gdynia 1
Poland
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op HP
SQ6Z(@SP6YAQ) 664 4269 172 24 5,711,922
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
AA5AU 175 78 1272 5 595,296
VA3DX 125 1093 60 4 327,900
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
GU0SUP 225 1475 106 938,100
PA5AT 258 1562 110 14 859,100
VE9DX 102 782 63 5 295,596
SV1XV 103 603 81 15 293,058
Operators:
SQ6Z SP3RBR,SP6RZ,SP8NR
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Apr 29 14:27:14 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K4FCG/M FQP 2,002 - long
References: <179.77cafff.29fec4e6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <036401c1efa3$1a9589c0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Congrats to team TOad - once again proving TWO TO's are better than one!
N4KM and K4OJ once again activated the club call K4FCG this year - we made a
few driving errors on the first day which team TO was kind enough to correct
on the second day...part of this was due to being a little frazzled at the
beginning of the contest...
The one thing I did not check out BEFORE the contest almost spelled
disaster - I was in charge of the computer/station and N4KM had the xcvr and
antennas installed on his new Nissan - what a great ride for ths trip...
As we connected the gear all together on Saturday morning the laptop wasn't
working - I had loaded all the NA files into it the night before and did
some trial logging and it seamed fine....the problem came in that I had done
this software stuff from home using the AC adaptor.
I had bought an off the shelf DC adaptor for the laptop power and just
plugged everything in - BIG MISTAKE.
The DC adaptor had reversable polarity on the plug and sure enough it was
exactly wrong.
Not knowing what we would find Kevin, N4KM said let's take a look inside -
as a QCAO the thought of opening up a Thinkpad Laptop and doing diagnostics
blew my mind!
After about 45 or 50 screws were removed the power supply board was found
and this little teenie tiny surface mount fuse, about the size of a grain of
rice - was found to be open....being the weekend with only a couple of hours
until the start of FQP it was decided to bridge the fuse with solder and see
if that was the only thing wrong with the computer. Mind you at this point
I had about soiled my britches...but, sure enough together it went and voila
it booted!
There is a Florida Contest God!
Now that the laptop was working we finished installing all of our gear off
we went - at the start of the contest we were running behind - had hoped to
start in Osceola but since we were running late it was actually Polk we
started in...I was so frazzled I completely forgot we were supposed to
detour into Okeechobee as one of our first counties and by the time I
realised we had missed it we were passed it - thanks to K1TO/N4TO for
covering that one Sunday...
The previous weekend we had gotten together with the Two TO's at a Floirda
cOntest Group meeting and decided to run opposite ends of the state in
oppostie directions each day - that way if one of us had an opportunity to
offer a sweep there would be a greater chance of it happening.
After a couple of hours into the contest activity really seemed to pick up
and for several hours on Saturday afternoon we were able to work as well on
15 as we were on 20 - this was fun since the same core group could work us
in the same county at least twice, now!
We made good time Saturday despite hitting the detour WD4AHZ warned us
about, and ended up adding Pinellas, and Hillsborough as well as Pasco to
our Saturday tally....at the end of the first day N4TO and K4FCG were both
in Pasco - suspect we were going in opposite directions on I75! Could hear
them "blowing by" the filters, hi!
Managed to get going ok on Sunday - we got off a little earlier than planned
so added a side trip to Citrus into the mix...dunno if that is my favorite
county or ORA, Orange!
conditions were definatley not as good on Sunday as they were Saturday, the
killer signals of GM3POI was down to s8 or s9...and 15 wasn't there for
double band core group QSOs
We knew that HA1AG needed Putnam bad so we parked there for almost an hour
and made 88 QSOs - unfortunately no Zoli to be found :-(
Things ran smooth Sunday - with all the activity from KH2D we decided to
skip hittting Northernmost Nassau and just high tailed it down 95
South...because we did that we got to return at the end to Osceola and Polk
counties.
N4KM has a great ride - it was a real pleasure to operate the FQP in style
mobile - the gear worked well - he had two antennas we could bounce
between - a screwdriver and a 20 meter ham stick.
35 Counties
1955 QSOs (1943 on CW)
20 hours...
Biggest QSOs county = Palm Beach @ 134 QSOs - 68 on 20 CW and 65 on 15 CW -
that was fun!
Average QSOs per county = 56
That's almost a hundred an hour average - thanks to everyone who
participated in the FQP, you made it fun for us guys big time!
The N4TO TOads made 2195 QSOs in 44 counties...incredable. between our two
efforts alone there were 4150 QSOs!!!!!
3830 reports keep coming in and it looks like we may have a record number of
county sweeps - including a QRP entrant and a European!
My special thanks to friend N4KM - we had a blast this weekend...if this
ain't what ham radio is about I dunno what it should be!
All of that said, one more thing....
363 Days til the next FQP, 2,003!
:-)
Jim, K4OJ
(+ N4KM ======> K4FCG/M)
>From frenaye at pcnet.com Mon Apr 29 14:30:57 2002
From: frenaye@pcnet.com (Tom Frenaye)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NEQP - a taste of New England
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020429125925.02405780@204.213.232.3 >
The activity in the FQP this past weekend will be tough to beat, but we're
going to give it a try in the New England QSO Party this next next weekend -
May 4th-5th. The full details and rules are at http://www.neqp.org/
We know of at least 200 people in New Eengland who will be active - and that
includes 13 mobiles, 3 portables and several on digital modes. One team even
plans to travel to new counties via small plane. All counties should be
covered (67 of them, the same as Florida...).
It looks like we may have a "clean sweep" of software support - CT by K1EA,
CQPWin by AE6Y, GenLog by W3KM, Logger by N1MM, NA by K8CC (not complete yet),
SD by EI5DI, TR by N6TR, Win-EQF by N3EQF, Writelog by W5XD (being tested
today). Paper logs OK also - the web site has forms for summary and log
sheets.
There are lots of reasons to operate in the NEQP, but K1DG says it best.
Check out the web site (http://www.neqp.org/) for "The Top Ten Reasons to
Operate the NEQP" The web site also has lots of other resources - list of
county abbreviations, county outline maps, list of home stations as well as
mobiles and where they plan to travel, and a list of NE county awards.
Certificates will be sent to everyone who makes at least 25 QSOs, plus there
are 19 plaques sponsored (so far), including one for the person who works a
"Clean Sweep - Not First, but Furthest", and one for the top score from
California/Nevada.
Oh yes, the reason the message subject says "a taste of New England" is that
we're going to send someone a lobster dinner for two, plus another 20 people
will receive some maple syrup or Ben & Jerry's ice cream.
-- Tom Frenaye/K1KI + Bob Hess/W1RH
(questions? --> info@neqp.org )
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
New England QSO Party - May 4-5, 2002 http://www.neqp.org
>From n5nj at verizon.net Mon Apr 29 13:50:25 2002
From: n5nj@verizon.net (n5nj@verizon.net)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Checks in SS
Message-ID: <20020429175025.IVMU8115.out016.verizon.net@out016>
Using 73 as your check will not help!
My check is 73 and I get asked for repeats of my check very often. I think
people don't trust that they've heard that commonly heard combination and have
to be certain that they are not miscopying it.
My guess is that a combination that is unusual that forces you to pay attention
will be copied more carefully.
1 A N5NJ 73 NTX
>
> From: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Checks in SS
>
> I really don't do much posting, but this thread is interesting. Who gives a
> fat rat's tail what the check is. Other than for data analysis, one check is
> as good as another. I have used 62 for years, but if the urge overcomes me,
> I may use 73, 88 or some other number.
> Is changing your check any different than "borrowing" a friend's desirable
> call or to have a secondary "club" desirable call where you are the
> trustee....especially for WPX? Check the latest claimed scores for WPX.
> Lots of once a year calls are in there from some big guns.
> Bill K4XS(SS)...aka WK4R(WPX)
> _______________________________________________
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>From al_lorona at agilent.com Mon Apr 29 15:10:03 2002
From: al_lorona@agilent.com (LORONA,AL (A-USA,ex3))
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Using a Bogus Check
Message-ID: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C10DB@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
When I operated the (entire) SS with the 'bogus' check, I really didn't
think about whether it would be an advantage or a disadvantage. I thought it
would be a morally and contest-ually (sic) neutral decision. Did I break the
rules? Yes. But gaining a competitive edge wasn't one of the reasons I had
for changing my check. I just wanted to program my memory keyer with a
different number.
Somebody said that, primarily because of all of the master databases in use,
that doing so could actually have been detrimental due to the higher
potential for error on the part of the station 'copying' my exchange.
However, Leigh has turned the discussion toward the possibility of it being
an *advantage*, presumably because of my specifically using the check '55'
as the example. Leigh, please correct me if I am mis-reading your
statements.
If Leigh is saying what I think he's saying, and if we are going to stick
with a strict interpretation of the SS rules regarding the check then some
of us have built-in advantages that *can't be overcome by the others*. That
is, if you are one of the lucky 55ers, you will always have the advantage
over, say, a 91er. Interesting, huh?
There was no doubt in my mind when I did it that I was in violation of the
*letter* of the law. That's why I referred to the spirit of the law in my
original post. Perhaps the only regret I had was that I skewed the
statistics of those who like to glean information from all of the checks.
Yet, (as somebody has already pointed out) if I use my club call with its
check of '97', that certainly isn't indicative of my real age in the hobby.
That in itself is a skewing of the statistics, isn't it?
Because of the balanced arguments on both sides of this issue, I believe
that without thinking too much about it, the decision I made really was
close to neutral.
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Mon Apr 29 16:21:06 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Book
In-Reply-To: <20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>; from Mike Gilmer -
N2MG on Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 09:33:14AM -0800
References: <20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>
Message-ID: <20020429152106.Q12630@cs.utexas.edu>
Any news on a contesting book?
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Apr 29 21:01:27 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Breakdown - K4FCG/Mobile Multi-Single
Message-ID: <043d01c1efda$2d1a6ca0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
de K4OJ - hope this registers somewhat, formatting may get screwy - if
anyone wants the Excel version I will send it off reflector....anxious to
compare notes with the TO Twosome who had even more QSOs than we did - they
hit 9 more counties and made 250 more QSOs than we did - our computer and
paddle was smoking - theirs must have been on fire!
Initial breakdown stats
K4FCG/Mobile - K4OJ + N4KM - FQP 2002
CTY Total CW Q SSB Q
QSOs 40 20 15 10 40 20 15 10
ALC 53 48 5
BAK 44 44
BRA 54 54
CHA 62 61 1
CIT 44 44
CLA 27 27
CLM 56 56
CLR 62 47 14 1
DUV 58 58
FLG 48 44 4
GLA 58 37 21
HAM 64 59 4 1
HEN 74 39 34 1
HER 41 6 35
HIL 44 16 28
IDR 44 32 12
LEE 91 52 39
MAO 51 44 7
MRT 29 15 14
MTE 60 14 46
ORA 48 6 42
OSC 43 2 41
PAL 134 68 65 1
PAS 85 45 40
PIN 42 9 33
POL 64 64
PUT 88 76 11 1
SAR 55 8 47
SEM 36 29 7
STJ 39 37 2
STL 36 25 11
SUM 51 47 3 1
SUW 55 55
UNI 63 58 5
VOL 52 39 13
1955 Total
There were definately regional propagation trends - form FL we seemed to
land in the right places on 20 meters asd far as most QSOs to be had - even
though 15 was very solid to the West most of the crew out there was at the
Visalia convention I suspect!
CW
40 106
20 1571
15 265
10 1
SSB
40 0
20 11
15 1
10 0
cw=1943
ssb=12
1955/35 counties 56 QSO/CTY AVG
1955/20 hours 98 QSO/Hour Avg
Now for a good nights rest...again special thanks to running mate N4KM and
W1CW/W1YL for emotional and culinary support.
Jim, K4OJ
>From ah3c at frii.com Mon Apr 29 21:54:33 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Book
References: <20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>
<20020429152106.Q12630@cs.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <003a01c1eff2$5c5ce340$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Did you ever read Bill Zachary's great "Contest Cook Book"?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth E. Harker" <kharker@cs.utexas.edu>
To: "Mike Gilmer - N2MG" <n2mg@contesting.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>; <wd3q@erols.com>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest Book
> Any news on a contesting book?
>
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>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Tue Apr 30 09:23:50 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] bogus/dodgy spotting
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEAKDGAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
For those inclined to want to trace the source of
some of the questionable contest spots.....there
is a regular source of EU origin on CQDXirc, and
probably dxSummit. Today, he's using F0OL, and N0QRM,
and N1LID. The content makes it clear that he's in EU,
and that it's the same source for all three callsigns.
He's been at it for a solid hour or more, now.
There should be ample opportunity before contests to
track this guy down, if you have the capability.
n2ea
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Apr 30 09:05:28 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Florida QSO Party - Claimed Scores 30Apr2002
Message-ID: <200204301505.g3UF5SM05245@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Florida QSO Party - Claimed Scores 30Apr2002
Submit logs by: May 28, 2002
E-mail logs to: FLQSOParty@aol.com
Mail logs to:
Florida QSO Party
c/o Ron Wetjen, WD4AHZ
5362 Castleman Dr.
Sarasota, FL 34232
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/SMixed HP
VE7FO 62 3 37 3 9 5,080
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
M/SMixed LP
NJ4M(@WD4AHZ) 447 642 63 70 20 408,576 Sarasota Emergency R
AD4ES 444 497 67 70 20 188,745 FCG
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
MobileCW LP
K1KI/M 28 7 20 7 1 3,402 YCCC
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
MobileMixed LP
NF4A/M 953 189 446 139 20 159,932 Panama City ARC
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SchoolCW LP
K8GU 50 0 30 0 ~2 6,000 MRRC
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SchoolMixed LP
W7UQ(KL9A) 90 47 43 26 4 29,964 WWYC
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABCW HP
W4SO 693 0 87 0 120,582
VE1OP 259 0 67 0 17 34,706
K2SX 243 0 64 0 31,104 YCCC
GM3POI 230 0 67 0 30,820
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABCW LP
K8IR 319 0 66 0 18 84,216 BAY AREA WIRELESS
K5ZD 271 0 65 0 7 70,460 YCCC
NT6K 252 0 64 0 18 64,512 NCCC
W4AU 208 0 61 0 10 50,752 Loudoun ARG
W8RU 182 0 62 0 7 45,136 MRRC
K1KI 194 0 55 0 4 42,680 YCCC
NO5W 142 0 59 0 33,512
K5OT 170 0 64 0 21,760 SMC
K3FT 77 0 42 0 4 6,308 PVRC
AE9B 55 0 28 0 2 3,080
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed HP
W4SAA 485 456 67 69 20 193,936 SFDXA
HA1AG 220 110 0 0 59,950
K3WW 247 47 64 27 15 49,231 FRC
K6LA 142 152 55 41 12 41,856 SCCC
K4BAI 252 24 65 12 13 40,656 SECC
K5YAA 275 68 65 26 39,552 OkDX
W6KC 98 72 39 28 6 17,956
N2ED 96 59 40 20 5 15,060 FRC
KO7X(@KI7WX) 110 41 40 3 4 11,223 PVRC
K8DX 36 19 20 14 1 3,094 NCC
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed LP
N4PN 365 1646 67 121 20 893,376 Panama City ARC
K4FQP(K5KG) 679 467 74 65 20 507,350 FCG
N6MU(@N6NB) 367 228 66 55 20 232,804 SCCC
W8MJ 365 216 67 49 20 219,472 MRRC
N2CU 296 112 64 41 13 147,840 Western New York DX
NY1S 223 54 60 20 14 80,000
K5WO 259 83 66 0 16 79,332 NTCC
N4PK 58 340 0 0 75,696
W8CAR 140 61 49 29 10 53,196 MRRC
N9NE 206 72 61 27 11 48,928 Fond du Lac (WI)
K8MR 139 42 53 23 48,640 MRRC
N4CW 114 26 54 18 36,576
N8TC 104 41 50 22 35,856 Bay Area DXers
W9RE 153 60 58 29 31,929 SMC
K0OU 104 37 45 20 31,850 SMC
AE6Y 86 34 39 15 3 22,248 NCCC
NS3T 79 21 44 17 5 10,919
K5KA 46 6 5 29 2 6,664
AB2E 55 27 50 32 10 6,302 FRC
VE7SR(VE7TLL) 7 11 7 9 1 800
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 18 1 14 1 1 285
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABMixed QRP
K5IID 239 75 66 34 15 165,900 MRRC
N0UR 278 60 63 21 16 155,232 MWA
K1RC 190 43 1140 129 102,789
W0ETT 116 54 0 0 9 17,446 Grand Mesa
4IU 88 31 43 16 13,865 MWA
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABSSB HP
K4XS 0 2278 0 124 20 282,472 FCG
VK2CZ 0 44 0 25 1,100
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Call CW Q Ph Q CW Ms Ph Ms hr Score Club
SOABSSB LP
VE3BUC 0 89 0 33 4 2,937
KB9UWU 0 41 0 21 1 1,722 SMC
W1DAD 0 30 0 19 2 1,140 YCCC
W6ZZZ 0 19 0 11 209 NCCC
Operators:
AD4ES AD4ES,K9ES
NJ4M W1ROX,WD4AHZ
VE7FO VE7CX,VE7FO
>From jds at twistedoak.com Tue Apr 30 12:00:09 2002
From: jds@twistedoak.com (Jeff Stai)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Book
In-Reply-To: <20020429152106.Q12630@cs.utexas.edu>
References: <20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>
<20020124173314.27456.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020430105801.00a89ea0@mail.megapathdsl.net>
At 01:21 PM 4/29/2002, Kenneth E. Harker wrote:
> Any news on a contesting book?
well, I have started looking into it, and have been collecting info, but I
was daft enough to say I would do this and then (naturally) got deeply
involved in the start of a new business. Ergo, it is "standing by", as they
say... stay tuned - jeff wk6i
Jeff Stai Twisted Oak Winery LLC
Email jds@twistedoak.com
Amateur Radio WK6I
ROC Web Page http://www.rocstock.org/
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Tue Apr 30 21:14:55 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] bogus/dodgy spotting
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHEEAKDGAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <000b01c1f083$b25bd7b0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
If it is on #cqdx irc channel or dxsummit with a -@ after the call as I
believe all those probably are, then it is put into the system using the
web interface at dxsummit. I and others have tried to request the logs
that the page says they keep on ip addresses but so far have not gotten
any reply. If anyone know of a contact at that site please let me know,
otherwise it is a good anonymous hole for putting in garbage.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of jljarvis
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:24
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] bogus/dodgy spotting
>
>
> For those inclined to want to trace the source of
> some of the questionable contest spots.....there
> is a regular source of EU origin on CQDXirc, and
> probably dxSummit. Today, he's using F0OL, and N0QRM,
> and N1LID. The content makes it clear that he's in EU,
> and that it's the same source for all three callsigns.
> He's been at it for a solid hour or more, now.
>
> There should be ample opportunity before contests to
> track this guy down, if you have the capability.
>
> n2ea
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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>From k1ir at designet.com Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A little bit about chairs
Message-ID: <bvb2i8mrd58i0ds.300420021709@designet-jsi>
I was looking into office chairs today and found this interesting note about
office chair ergonomics. Thought you might find it useful.
http://www.tifaq.com/furniture/archive/chairs-apr96-brooks.txt
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From ve4xt at mts.net Tue Apr 30 20:46:05 2002
From: ve4xt@mts.net (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Tue Apr 30 18:09:53 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Bogus check
Message-ID: <008701c1f0a9$955fb020$0100a8c0@joe>
Hi all,
Forgive me, but I fail to see what all the hand-wringing is about...
I've always sent my "real" check (82), but only because when I first did SS
(in 83), that's what seemed logical and I've seen no reason to change it
since.
But never have I believed that the contest police would be banging down my
door if I used something different. Nobody seems to complain about the name
lottery that takes place with every NAQP (except of course CT users
frustrated that Nostradamus won't fit in the field provided (fittingly, TR
users never complained (I don't know if NA users complained, but I think
they're a bit more laid back anyway (and I've never met one of them WriteLog
guys, but I think they're OK)))).
Anyway, I just hope that if you think this is the kind of issue that will
bring the contest world to its knees, you'll give your head a shake. It just
ain't that important. No significant advantage is obtained (I mean, if
WD4AHZ wishes to use 55, I'm not going to complain) over any advantage
obtained by using the same check every year (for the database users).
When I did SS from WB0O in 1998, I used his check (the real one). It only
made sense, particularly given the database guys. I think my fill rate would
have gone way up had I not.
Kelly
ve4xt
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