On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Fred Laun K3ZO wrote:
> People are usually incredulous when I tell them there are 175,000 hams in
> Thailand. Why don't we hear them on the bands, I am asked.
>
> The answer is that about 99.4% of them are VHF-only hams. The barrier to
> upgrading, interestingly enough, is not CW so much as it is the fact that
> the guy who writes the exams for the Thai PTD makes the written exam
> top-heavy on obscure facts like what does the Z-signal ZNN stand for, etc.
> So the failure rate on the written exam has been rather high.
>
That's really too bad. You'd think they'd get real. I have never in 35
years heard anyone use a Z-signal in ham radio.
Sort of like asking me as a photographer how to shoot Autochrome or make a
Bromoil. Chances are mighty slim that either will happen!
> Champ, E21EIC, along with John, HS1CHB, promoted the CQWW VHF Contest in
> Thailand this year and got quite a bit of participation. Champ is rounding
> up the logs and helping the contestants to submit them to CQ. He is also
> planning to propose the creation of a national VHF contest in Thailand to
> better familiarize all the VHF'ers with contesting.
>
> Champ has copied me on his log submission messages to CQ, and I have taken
> the QSO list of just one log, that of DOMRONGSAK PATTAKARNGOVIBOON,
> HS8GLR/9, who operated the contest from Songkhla Province in Southern
> Thailand near the border with Malaysia. Here is his list of QSOs in the
> CQWW VHF contest. Will the left-coast logs of the future contain something
> like this?
>
[snipped huge list of HS callsigns]
I certainly hope so!!!
73, Zack W9SZ
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Fri Jul 26 23:56:26 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (Bob Wruble)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] "Please copy..."
References: <20020626200729.12106.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com>
<001301c21d88$8670eaa0$dafc7243@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <004101c23532$591d6210$41c03d04@bobhome>
boy the crap that goes back and forth on this reflector is enuf to give a
Woodpecker a "headache! The 2% of worthwhile info is hard to stick around
for! de w7gg
---- Original Message -----
From: "James Neiger" <n6tj@sbcglobal.net>
To: <discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] "Please copy..."
> And by natural extension, the next step is to preface our CW exchanges
with
> a polite "please copy"? Give me a break, please.
>
> Jim Neiger
> N6TJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck" <discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:07 PM
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] "Please copy..."
>
>
> > Scott Nichols sagely noted that....
> > "I think, for many people, the "please copy" acts
> > as an instinctive "bridge"...." and also noted
> > "..It also seems a little more friendly..."
> >
> > K3FT opined.. What I learned from chatting with
> > the pros in this world is that even though the
> > guiding rule is 'A-B-C' (Accuracy, Brevity,
> > Clarity) when transmitting traffic, the all
> > important, yet intangible 'human factor' must be
> > considered.
> >
> > The insertion of the 'Please Copy...' prior to
> > the start of the message (on voice circuits)
> > helps to impart a small but valuable bit of 'the
> > personal touch' in the mix.
> >
> > Another purpose is to give the recieving
> > operators mind a chance to 'lock in' and be
> > absolutely ready to copy what follows. Even
> > though you know that the other guy is ready
> > because he responsded 'K3FT send your traffic'
> > and you start transmitting.. a 'Please copy...'
> > before the 'number xxx...' and the rest of the
> > preamble simply gives him a 1/4 of a second to
> > energize the brain/body to begin actually
> > writing/typing. The slight delay allows him to
> > move from the act of transmiting 'K3FT, Send your
> > traffic', put down the mic, ready his
> > pencil/fingers, and be absolutely ready to copy
> > whatever you send next.
> >
> > Regardless of how good you are, there is ALWAYS a
> > slight delay from the time you stop transmitting
> > your readiness to receive and your full
> > readiness to copy. The 'Please copy' allows the
> > human factor of a pleasantry to occur while
> > providing that needed delay so the reciever can
> > be assured of having all in place to copy.
> >
> > That is all it really is. What I was taught is we
> > strive for 'A-B-C' but maintaining a small bit of
> > 'human pleasantry' in the mix is OK.
> >
> > 73
> > Chuck K3FT
> >
> >
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:11:48 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQ-M DX Contest - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207011411.g61EBmZ24375@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQ-M DX Contest - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqm@srr.ru
Mail logs to:
CQ-M Contest Committee
Krenkel Central Radio Club of Russia
PO Box 88
Moscow 123459
Russia
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
N1XS(@K1TTT) 674 148 24 218,892 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SMixed HP
4U1VIC 1071 217 530,999
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABCW HP
TM9C(F5IN) 777 155 270,320
N4BP 450 102 17 116,076 FCG
KM5G 152 69 26,013
K9NW(@K9UWA) 157 64 25,600 MRRC
K5GN(@W5KU) 67 30 2 4,680 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABCW LP
OZ0RS 313 82 55,514
M/AB2E 220 88 14 41,448
XE1NW 116 34 10 9,044
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABMixed HP
LY2FY 905 158 319,318 KTU RC
UA9FM 206 67 6 38,592 UCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABMixed LP
9A7P(9A6XX) 349 103 5 78,177 WWYC
YL2PN 284 72 45,216 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABSSB LP
PA3FGJ 156 62 20,150
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/20CW LP
I2WIJ 277 55 8 35,365 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
Operators:
4U1VIC DF5AU,DJ9AO,DL9NDV,JH4RHF
N1XS K1EBY,K1TTT,N1XS
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:12:31 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Anatolian RTTY - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207011412.g61ECVk24384@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Anatolian RTTY - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: ta9j@qsl.net
Mail logs to:
TA9J Ismail Cakmak
PO Box 34
36000 Kars
Turkey
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op HP
AL1G 132 1675 67 112,225
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op HP
N4BP 312 3760 128 12 481,280 FCG
VK4UC 205 3065 94 288,110
YL2KF 148 1680 97 7 162,960
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
F6FJE 255 2930 126 369,180
TA1BM 181 2530 9 278,300
SP8SW 202 2250 113 15 254,250 SPDX Club
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 168 2445 96 7:12 234,720 Chiltern DX Club
GU0SUP 88 1035 58 60,030
N1MGO 79 890 57 50,730
VE3BUC 64 900 42 3 37,800
VE9DX 32 420 23 2 9,660
Operators:
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:13:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Baltic Contest - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207011413.g61EDCm24393@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Baltic Contest - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: lrsf@lrsf.lt
Mail logs to:
Baltic Contest
PO Box 210
LT-3000, Kaunas
Lithuania
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All M/S HP
YL4U 176 139 5 321 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All M/S LP
ES5KJ 138 109 5 249
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO CW HP
TM9C(F5IN) 170 0 3 728 Union Française des
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO CW LP
YL1ZF 237 0 5 240 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO Mixed HP
8S5A(SM5AJV) 114 51 2,10 885 TOEC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO Mixed LP
LY3CW(LY2KZ) 131 70 5 203 Kaunas Technology Un
LY2XW 141 51 5 193
YL2PN 33 56 3 91 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO SSB HP
ES5TV 0 203 5 209
Operators:
YL4U YL2CA,YL2CV,YL2CZ,YL2LY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:16:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ANARTS RTTY - All Claimed Scores 01Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207011416.g61EGQQ24407@localhost.localdomain>
2002 ANARTS RTTY - All Claimed Scores 01Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: ctdavies@bigpond.com
Mail logs to:
Contest Manager ANARTS
PO Box 93
Toongabbie, NSW 2146
Australia
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts Ms Cont hr Score Club
All SOST HP
9A5W 1045 12869 268 6 30 20,696,752 Croatian CC
IT9BLB 948 9664 235 6 30 13,628,640
PY0FF 464 12842 164 6 5 12,636,628 Araucaria DX Group
RN4LP 686 8842 205 6 30 10,878,060
YL2KF 740 7774 220 6 28 10,263,980 Latvian CC
AA5AU 582 9502 179 6 18 10,207,148
W2YC 570 10066 168 6 40 10,027,336 FRC
NR1DX 455 8158 127 6 16 6,271,096 YCCC
K4WW 345 6074 112 5 17 3,402,840 KCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts Ms Cont hr Score Club
All SOST LP
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 551 17467 158 6 16,558,916
PA5AT 540 4987 185 6 31 5,536,270
VE6YR 355 5754 124 6 4,282,776
VE9DX 330 5052 135 6 20 4,093,320
SV1XV 347 3805 136 6 25 3,105,280
W1TO 193 3241 93 6 1,808,578 YCCC
SP6EKS 197 3371 49 6 12 1,780,988
GU0SUP 300 2197 118 6 14 1,555,876
VA3PC 188 3442 89 5 14 1,532,290
WR5O 70 975 42 5 8 205,550
WA6BOB 78 1016 36 5 3 182,980
VA3NA 61 915 35 4 2.5 128,200
K3FH 51 676 38 3 4 77,064
W8RU 29 525 17 4 1.5 35,700 MRRC
Operators:
(none)
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:17:34 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU FD, CW - All Claimed Scores 01Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207011417.g61EHYV24416@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU FD, CW - All Claimed Scores 01Jul2002
Submit logs by: (see your national society rules)
E-mail logs to: (see your national society rules)
Mail logs to:
(see your national society rules)
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Open HP
S55A/P 1296 206 881,062 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Open LP
DK0WT/P(DK2GZ) 910 168 528,192
S58U/P 928 145 24:00 463,275
DL0KD/P 633 136 24 291,720 RR DX
DF0BK/P 667 120 24 274,440
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Restricted LP
GM3POI/P 1152 159 24 631,866 Orkney ARC
DL0UP/P 925 170 24 540,770 L11
G0RGH/P 535 0 24 2,268 Harwich Amateur Radi
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Fixed HP
F5IN 724 126 323,064 U.F.T.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Fixed LP
LY1DS 258 55 3 51,590 Lithuanian DX
YL2PN 100 30 3 393 Latvian CC
S52MY 5 21 1:00 105
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Open HP
VE3XAX 354 76 19 89,224 U-VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Open LP
S51JM/P 170 67 8:42 40,401
Operators:
DF0BK/P DL4SDW,DL4SDX,DL5SEJ,DL8SCG
DL0KD/P DJ5CU,DL1EKC,DL2EBH
DL0UP/P DL1EFD,DL1EFO
G0RGH/P G0DVJ,G0SCP,G3ZQU,G4AQZ,G4EYE,G4FTP,G4WHK,M0CGE
GM3POI/P G3MXJ,GM3POI
S55A/P S53Z,S55A,S56A,S57AD,S57NWT,S57RW,S57UKE,S58O,
S59KW
S58U/P S51VA,S51VI,S53AU,S57LO,S57RR,S59AV
>From w2up at mindspring.com Mon Jul 1 11:40:19 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Seattle, WA
In-Reply-To: <001801c22098$d367aca0$6501a8c0@toney1.al.home.com>
Message-ID: <E17P2M3-0000my-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
And I'm going to be in Seattle (and Vancouver) around the end of
July, if anyone's interested in getting together...
Barry W2UP
On 30 Jun 02, at 19:47, greg and leann richard wrote:
> I am going to be in Seattle, WA starting July 3 thru the 8th.
>
> Any contestors interested in getting together for dinner?
>
>
> Greg K4NO
>
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Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From w7zr at citlink.net Mon Jul 1 11:11:24 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Top Ten Switches
Message-ID: <003001c22122$7250d560$a224d7aa@N1>
I have two Top Ten switches available on eBay. Item #1363268794.
Thanks
Dick W7ZR
Price Reduced!!
Vacation or Retire Here
It's Paradise on the Beach
www.w7zr.com
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Mon Jul 1 15:35:49 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [Towertalk] dead grass
References: <20020630.094808.-685039.0.K2QMF@juno.com>
<5.1.1.2.2.20020630103114.00b44728@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <028901c22147$4585dab0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
This is usually accompanied by a "moisture barrier" presented by the
concrete base. Often it is enough to take care to water a little more
around the tower. When the concrete's "base" meets the soils "acid"
the result is salt, which can damage some vegetation even if
neutralized. In this case, extra watering is the answer.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob, N5RP" <N5RP@pdq.net>
To: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Cc: <k1ttt@arrl.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 08:40
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [Towertalk] dead grass
>
> > > > Is there something that leaches off older towers that kills grass?
> > > > I
> > > > don't remember it happening the first 10 years or so, but now on my
> > > > older towers I have been noticing that the grass is being killed off
> > > > on
> > > > the downhill side. These are all rohn 25/45/55 type towers. Is
> > > > there
> > > > something to stop it??
> ==========================>
> Alkalinity from the older concrete leaches out into the yard.
>
> You do not notice this at first. It takes a while for the leaching to have
> an adverse affect on the surrounding plants that might need a more acid
> soil condition.
>
> Apply acidifier to the surrounding soil.
> Same thing happens down here in the Southern USA to azaleas planted too
> close to concrete foundations of houses.
>
> The list is free to be surprised at this being one of my few sincere posts
> with a content of substance.
> File away if you wish to preserve same.
> Bob Perring
> ...........................................
> Amateur Radio Station N5RP
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>From kcechura at umr.edu Mon Jul 1 08:06:10 2002
From: kcechura@umr.edu (Ken Cechura)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Icom 706 CI-V
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20020701070357.00bcd750@pop3.umr.edu>
has anyone used a butel IF2 yaesu/icom interface to control an Icom IC 706
(such as memories, rig control, etc. etc.)?
It says it'll work... granted, it will only work with a single radio,
versus the W2ENY version which will work on 4 radios at once....
any comments, hints, etc. would be appreciated.... I just don't want to
pay over 100 bucks if i can avoid it for the Icom brand interface.
thanks
Ken
||==============================||
// Kenneth R. Cechura, KC9UMR \\
// kcechura@umr.edu \\
\\ Station Trustee, KF9ART //
\\ Freq Amateur Radio Team //
||==============================||
>From k9la at gte.net Tue Jul 2 07:06:31 2002
From: k9la@gte.net (Carl K9LA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 and "early bird" logs
Message-ID: <3D218937.6090500@gte.net>
The IARU World HF Championship is right around the corner, within which
WRTC2002 is run.
Just a quick reminder to everyone that the WRTC2002 organizing committee
would like as many participants as possible to e-mail their contest logs
by 1800 UTC on July 14. These "early bird" logs will be used only for
log checking purposes related to the WRTC2002 teams.
There are incentives for doing this, and I encourage you to visit
www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm for the details. Any questions should be
directed to the WRTC2002 individuals indicated on the WRTC2002 web site.
Carl K9LA
NCJ Editor
>From roberto.soro at sia.it Tue Jul 2 14:23:30 2002
From: roberto.soro@sia.it (Soro Roberto)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MARCONI MEMORIAL ---e-mail problems---
Message-ID: <8160937F4F4CD111A93E00805FC1752909C03935@ntsiaexch.office.sia.it>
THIS NOTE COMES FROM MARCONI MEMORIAL MANAGER
IK6PTJ - Maurizio Fiorucci:
I just talked to him about the ik6ptj@qsl.net malfunction.
He was not aware, but now he is and he apologise and
will take immediate actions to solve this inconvenience.
Please QRX for a while and IK6PTJ will let know the contest community
about a suitable solution, may be either the old mail address
will work again or he will supply a new mail address.
Best 73,
Bob, I2WIJ (on behalf of IK6PTJ)
mailto:i2wij@qsl.net
http://www.qsl.net/i2wij/
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>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 2 16:07:53 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 and "early bird" logs
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12D7D@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
OI2HQ, Finnish Radio Relay League Headquarters station
will send logs within an hour of contest end to WRTC2002
organizing committee.
We will have a real All-Stars M/M effort with W2GD, K1CC,
N6TV, S56A/N1YU, UX1UA, N2NC, G4JVG, G4VXE to mention
a few of our oprerators.
OI2HQ is available in IARU2002 on all bands with several
stations QRV simultaneously.
73,
Jukka (OH6LI, OI2HQ organiser)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Carl K9LA [mailto:k9la@gte.net]
> Sent: 02 July, 2002 14:07
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 and "early bird" logs
>
>
> The IARU World HF Championship is right around the corner,
> within which
> WRTC2002 is run.
>
> Just a quick reminder to everyone that the WRTC2002
> organizing committee
> would like as many participants as possible to e-mail their
> contest logs
> by 1800 UTC on July 14. These "early bird" logs will be used only for
> log checking purposes related to the WRTC2002 teams.
>
> There are incentives for doing this, and I encourage you to visit
> www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm for the details. Any questions
> should be
> directed to the WRTC2002 individuals indicated on the
> WRTC2002 web site.
>
> Carl K9LA
> NCJ Editor
>
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>From okh.npi at gte.net Tue Jul 2 13:17:45 2002
From: okh.npi@gte.net (Rich Dailey, KA8OKH)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Icom 706 CI-V
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020701070357.00bcd750@pop3.umr.edu>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020702121345.00baee68@mail.gte.net>
>mments, hints, etc. would be appreciated.... I just don't want to pay over
>100 bucks if i can avoid it for the Icom brand interface.
I've got *maybe* $2 in my icom interfaces. They can each control up to 4 rigs.
Get a copy of the July '92 QST article by kg7sg, or go here -
http://www.plicht.de/ekki/civ/civ-sch1.html
Hope this helps,
Rich
---
Rich Dailey, KA8OKH - Phyllis Dailey, KB4NPI
<http://home1.gte.net/web22jfw>
Kentucky QSO Party template files for NA -
<http://home1.gte.net/web22jfw/kyqso.htm>
---
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 2 09:04:11 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX CW - NA Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207021504.g62F4BY25420@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX CW - NA Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXCW@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA M/M HP
6Y2A 10297 1295 48 40,300,000 NCCC
WL7E(@KL7Y) 5065 1091 47 16,458,826
WC4E(@W1CW/W1YL) 5205 1095 48 13,995,195 FCG
AL7NJ 4467 1014 48 12,664,860 BCC
NY4A(@N4AF) 4371 991 48 12,232,904 PVRC
VC6X(@VE6JY) 4312 1052 48 12,060,000
W4MYA 4206 1000 48 11,255,000 PVRC
NE6N(@N2NT) 4098 923 46 10,686,494 SCCC/FRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 3716 969 48 8,563,053 NCCC
KX7M 3564 939 48 8,459,451 NCCC
WX5S(@W6YX) 3545 966 48 7,984,956 NCCC
NT6K 1706 3464 48 2,234,280 NCCC
AK3Z 504 335 7 457,275 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA M/M QRP
TI5N(@TI5KD) 3173 895 48 7,500,000 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA M/S HP
8P4A 5723 1064 48 19,020,064 Kiev Contest Group
NP4Z 4290 950 46 12,209,400 FCG
KT1V 3652 994 47 10,775,954 YCCC
WW4T(@W4AN) 3806 998 47 10,666,624 SECC
NO2R(@K2NG) 3223 937 48 8,265,277 FRC
KM4M(@K4JA) 3118 923 48 8,120,554 PVRC
KZ4DX(@N4TO) 3199 952 48 7,785,456 FCG
N0NI 2936 930 48 7,000,000
XM7SV(@VE7SV) 2425 813 40 5,725,959 BC DX Club
NM5O(@N5YA) 2674 881 48 5,604,041 NTCC
VE7GL 2046 761 48 4,588,830
NC7J(@W7CT) 1869 684 48 2,800,296 UTAH CONTEST CLUB
WX6V 1609 651 47 2,617,020 NCCC
KI7Y(@K7ZUM) 1613 565 43 2,440,320 WVDXC
NZ1U(@KB1H) 1232 635 18 2,004,695 YCCC
W4NJK 227 136 31 53,584 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA M/S QRP
N2ED 1537 655 24 2,749,035 FRC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(A)AB HP
K5KG 2227 806 36 6,347,250 FCG
K9NR 1567 598 33 2,335,788 SMC
WM6A(K6TA) 1108 516 22 1,345,728 NCCC
N4GG 923 501 26 1,250,997 PVRC
W5VX 1000 499 14 1,029,936
KD2HE 565 325 452,075
W3IQ 463 319 15 408,001 NCC
AI9T 375 963 262,899
KR5DX(K5NZ) 399 272 5 221,408 CTDXCC
VE7FO 125 113 37,968
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(A)AB LP
AB2E 705 402 24 682,998 FRC
VE3BUC 615 359 24 628,968
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(R)AB LP
K8KHZ 165 130 51,090 MRRC
VE3AGC 106 98 29,988
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(TS)AB HP
NR1DX 2291 746 36 4,809,462 YCCC
AG1C(N2GC) 1879 692 36 3,424,016 YCCC
VE1OP 1688 653 33 3,210,148
KZ5D 1811 715 34 3,058,770 Cajun Contest Club
N6CW 1524 650 30 2,372,500
N3UM 1331 582 25 2,071,338 PVRC
W4SAA 1224 552 34 1,821,600 FCG
W6TK 783 425 14 827,050 SCCC
KA2MGE 718 417 720,993
XM4YU(VE4YU) 620 355 19 607,760
K7XN 641 367 541,692 TOEC
WT9U 610 338 10 451,568 SMC
K0RI 449 304 14 327,408
K6III 370 286 12 249,964 NCCC
K6OWL 196 133 8 46,949
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(TS)AB LP
VE3XB 1256 539 36 2,081,079
NX6T(K6AM) 1360 589 35 1,801,162 San Diego Contest Cl
NA4K 1071 530 1,400,000 TCG
WD4AHZ 1103 514 23 1,387,286 FCG
N4CW/1 841 457 19 1,020,938 PVRC
KV8Q 864 425 33 867,425
N4YDU 734 403 17 792,701 PVRC
K8IR 652 393 27 642,162 BAY AREA WIRELESS
K7HBN 484 354 437,190 WWDXC
NO5W 646 322 36 411,838
N4VI 480 317 17 352,504 Grand Mesa
WV2LI(N2GA) 424 264 6 331,056 YCCC
XM6ZT(VE6ZT) 232 260 4 233,220
W4IDX 313 215 5 176,300 RR DX
KU3O 235 186 15 101,370 FCG
NQ4U 243 180 93,420 TCG
K8MR 78 69 1 14,973 MRRC
N2CU 77 71 1 13,277 Western New York DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(TS)SB15 HP
XM3ANX(VE3ANX) 1464 640 35 2,543,360
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3MQW 506 379 509,755
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(TS)SB40 HP
VE3XAX 682 357 29 1,058,505 U-VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOAB HP
FM5BH 3532 843 36 8,623,890
K3WW 2790 768 36 6,501,888 FRC
KN1DX(K4ZW) 2831 788 36 6,307,940 PVRC
KU6W(N6MJ) 2864 866 36 6,233,468 SCCC
KT3Y 2679 798 5,980,050 PVRC
WC1M 2558 788 36 5,857,204 YCCC
KF3B(N3RS) 2589 765 36 5,780,340 FRC
K3CR(LZ4AX) 2507 793 36 5,687,396 NCC
W6XR(N2YX) 2480 747 36 5,423,220
N5RZ 2695 841 36 5,413,517 NTCC
NT5C(N3BB) 2648 828 36 5,286,780 CTDXCC
AA3B 2346 764 36 5,101,228 FRC
N9RV(W8LVN) 2433 713 36 4,601,702 SMC
K5YA 2231 776 35 4,423,976 CTDXCC
W5KFT(K5PI) 2260 794 36 4,366,206 CTDXCC
KR7O(N6TV) 2212 762 36 4,298,442 NCCC
KC7V 2199 758 36 3,988,596 Central Arizona DX A
K4RO 2174 752 3,922,432
KO0U(K0OU) 1680 678 33 2,578,434 Kansas City DX Club
WI9WI 1642 636 25 2,510,928 SMC
WR7HE(K7QQ) 1558 657 28 2,499,885 YCCC
K5ZD 1133 547 11 1,634,436 YCCC
KO7X(@KI7WX) 939 489 14 1,200,006 PVRC
K6NR 819 442 21 796,484 SCCC
KY4AA(N4GN) 812 445 9 785,425 KCG
N6HC 794 428 17 709,196 SCCC
K2UOP 633 378 16 670,572 PVRC
N6ZZ 624 376 18 519,256 SCCC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 617 331 13 407,792 WVDXC
K4LQ 422 337 13 373,396 FCG
NW6P(K6RIM) 627 326 13 344,908 NCCC
WB0O 459 300 5 326,700
K5YAA 384 273 5 284,466 OkDX
N3RD 377 263 4 270,101 FRC
K5TR 457 274 5 267,972 Boring Amateur Radio
AD4L 273 184 7 138,552 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOAB LP
NF4A(N4PN) 2156 781 34 4,353,294 FCG
XL3NA(VA3NA) 1808 668 36 3,871,060
KS9K(N4TZ) 1712 664 36 3,004,600 SMC
NZ8O(W8MJ) 1678 652 36 2,699,932 MRRC
N1UR 1440 605 36 2,326,225 YCCC
AA6PW 1399 569 36 1,869,165 SCCC
NK4A(NF4A) 1013 499 16 1,221,552 FCG
WA1Z 947 470 36 1,189,570
K1HT 821 455 15 1,110,655 YCCC
K4EU 810 475 20 1,046,900 PVRC
XE2AC 1019 418 20 1,023,264
VE3IAY 799 385 982,135 CRDXC
W1TO 636 354 18 635,784 YCCC
N7WA 716 401 30 565,811 WWDXC
VE9DX 377 377 5 479,921
KE1F 532 319 28 406,406 FCG
W3CP 429 296 20 405,520 PVRC
VA3XRZ 344 221 255,918
AE9B 404 289 10 243,338 Kansas City DX Club
WA6OGO 431 271 221,949
N1LW 280 209 151,525 YCCC
W4NZ 248 202 142,006 TCG
NR7DX(K7ABV) 260 207 7 129,582
WA6BOB 333 206 15 121,128
K7JWD 390 158 16 61,620
K3FH 138 112 4 38,752
AE0Q 113 84 14,952 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOAB QRP
KG1D(K1KI) 862 473 21 1,246,828 YCCC
WQ1RP(K1RC) 840 434 35 909,230 New England QRP Club
N7IR 725 411 36 711,441 Central Arizona DX A
VE3RSA 249 191 135,992
K6SE 278 198 10 120,582
N8VW 140 121 34,969 MRRC
AG0T 135 105 16 23,100
KC0W 100 91 8 17,199
N9AVG 56 50 4 5,650 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB10 HP
KW4CW(N4BP) 954 502 28 1,054,200 FCG
WO8CC(N9AG) 419 295 25 242,195 SWODXA
VO1MP 300 205 10 176,095
WW4M(W4ZV) 222 177 6 81,774 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB10 LP
KN4Y 323 210 25 112,560 FCG
XM3STT(@VE3STT) 24 24 1,416
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB15 HP
ZF1A(W5ASP) 2552 790 5,116,830 TDXS
K2VV(@K4VX) 1687 745 34 3,116,335
KC4D(K4OAQ) 1633 704 33 2,970,880
WZ1R(N1RR) 1352 632 27 2,222,112 YCCC
W5TM(W5AO) 1397 649 30 2,182,587 OkDX
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1363 646 29 1,997,432
N8BJQ 1122 584 26 1,666,736
KM5G 1116 566 1,519,144 ozark contest club
KC5FU(N5QQ) 1033 561 23 1,330,824 NTCC
WS8O(W8GN) 353 254 12 222,504 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB15 LP
N6MU(@N6NB) 927 564 36 1,201,320 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB15 QRP
VE3HG 98 93 25,203
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB160 HP
K1VW 91 65 14 7,995 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB160 LP
VE3OSZ 73 51 11 13,923 CRDXC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB160 QRP
N6WG 15 10 11 150
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB20 HP
FM5GU 1882 698 28 3,459,288 The Pordenone Gangst
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1672 720 36 3,027,600 MRRC
XM7SZ(VA7RR) 1670 714 36 3,004,512 BC DX Club
WZ5V(K0EJ) 1501 672 29 2,404,416 TCG
NI8L(K8DX) 1026 470 11 1,332,920 NCC
VA7XX 583 172 4 100,276
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB20 LP
XM3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 645 372 21 608,220 SKY CC
NJ3K 405 265 208,209
W0ETT 281 236 7 150,804 Grand Mesa
XE1NW 166 122 13 47,702
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB40 HP
K0RF 659 367 20 812,905
WK4R(N2NL) 561 363 8 812,757 FCG
NU5A(K5GN) 589 340 12 720,120 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB40 LP
WK4Y 323 226 12 196,168 PVRC
W9SE 326 220 166,100 SMC
WS4NC(N4VHK) 161 132 16 62,304 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB80 HP
W7DRA 84 56 12 7,616
Operators:
3V8BB 4N1FG,S56A,YT1AD,YU1RL,YU7NU
6Y2A K2KW,KE7X,N6BT,N6XG,N6XI,W0YK,WA60
8P4A M0SDX,VE3DZ
9A7A 9A2ME,9A3OS,9A3TR,9A4BT,9A4PA,9A4RX,9A6DM,9A7V,
9A8A
A61AJ A61AJ,N2AA,S50A,S50R,S51RE,S52ZW,S53A,S53R,
S56JXX,S57DX,S57J,S58Q,S59AA
AK3Z A45ZN,AK3Z,K3LP,N3SB,WX3B
AL7NJ DK2OY,DL3LAB,DL4RDJ,DL6RAI,KL7RA,N1TX
AM6IB EA3AIR,EA3KU,EA5BM
CT7T CT1GFK,CT1GPQ,ON5UM
EA2AAZ EA2AAZ,EA2CLU
ES9C ES1DW,ES2NA,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,
ES5RN,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
F9IE F6BEE,F6FFM,F6FGZ,F8CRH
GX6YB G0WKW,G3TKF,G3XSV
KI7Y K5ZM,K7ZUM,KI7Y
KM4M K4JA,K9GY,K9JY,W3BP
KT1V AG9A,KT1V,NT1N
KX7M AD6E,KX7M,N6KJ,W6NV,W6RGG
KZ4DX K1TO,K4LQ,N4TO,W4IR,W4QM
L75FM LU4FPZ,LU7AWP,LU8DW,LU9DAH
N0NI K0KD,K0RX,N0AV,N0NI
N2ED K2AF,KC2BMG,N2ED
NC7J K7CO,NG7M,W7CT,W7FB,W7WIK
NE6N N2NC,N2NT,N6RT
NM5O AD5Q,N5UM
NO2R K2NG,K2TW,NO2R
NP4Z NP3A,NP4Z
NR6O K3EST,K6AW,K6XC,KI7WX,N6BV
NT6K KA6BIM,KO6UW,NT6K
NY4A K2AV,K7GM,N4AF,W2CS
NZ1U KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
OL5T OK1DSZ,OK1DXF,OK1FHI,OK1KA,OK1QM,OK1TC,OK1WWJ
OL7R OK1VWK,OK1WMV,OK1XUV
OL8M OK1AY,OK1CM,OK1DRQ,OK1DX,OK1FCJ,OK1MR
OZ0XX OZ1BIZ,OZ3ZW,OZ5WQ
RM6A RA6AU,RA6AX,RA6CM,RA6CO,RN6AA,RN6BN,RV6YZ,UA6CQ
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TI5N CX6VM,N0KE,W1XE/0,W8QZA/6
VC6X TI2WGO,VE5FN,VE6BF,VE6EX,VE6JY,VE7AV,ZL1JG
VE7GL VA7AO,VA7OO,VE7GL
W4MYA K1SE,K4GAU,W4HJ,W4MYA,W4TJ,W4TNX,WU4G
W4NJK W4NJK,WB8TDA
WC4E K1TO,K4FB,K4OJ,N4GI,N4KM,T93M,W1CW,W1YL,WC4E
WL7E AL1G,KL2A,KL7FH,KL7Y,KL9A,WA2GO,WL7E
WW4T K4BAI,KU8E,W4AN
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6UFO,N6DE,N7MH,W1SRD,W6CT,W6LD,
W7SW,WX5S
WX6V K6LRN,WX6V
XM7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
YM3LZ LZ1UQ,LZ2CJ,LZ2FI,LZ2FV,LZ2HM,LZ2UU,TA3D
YT6A T95A,VK1AA,YT6A,YT6PSF,YT6T,YU1RE,YU6ZD,YU7EU,
YU7FN,YZ7DX
YT9X YT1RA,YU1JW,YU1UH,YU1ZZ,YU7BW
ZX3S PU3AGN,PU3LOM,PY3BM,PY3CQ,PY3FBI,PY3MM,PY3NZ,
PY3PAZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 2 09:05:36 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX CW - Non-NA Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207021505.g62F5au25429@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX CW - Non-NA Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXCW@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA M/M HP
A61AJ 11008 1283 48 45,828,760 SCC
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7408 1163 48 18,438,202
9A7A 5539 1108 48 14,433,916 Croatian CC
OL5T 4874 1062 48 11,420,748
OZ0XX 3047 836 40 5,313,616
ZX3S(@PY3UEB) 1957 684 48 4,175,820 ARB/PY3MHZ
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA M/M LP
SK5EW 1895 661 40 2,619,543 TOEC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA M/S HP
3V8BB 5261 1076 48 19,649,912 YU CC
YM3LZ 3570 890 47 10,660,000 Bulgarian Contest Gr
YT6A 4027 1056 48 10,287,552 SKY CC
AM6IB 4257 1070 48 9,688,520
L75FM(@LU4FM) 3097 887 48 9,081,106
F9IE(@F6BEE) 3455 983 48 8,403,667 LNDX
RM6A(@RN6BN) 3558 1025 48 8,005,250 RW6AWT
OL8M 3229 973 48 7,416,206
YT9X(@YU1AAX) 3340 933 48 6,825,828 YU CC
GX6YB 3281 818 48 5,502,686 Bristol CG
OL7R(@OK1KUW) 6143 895 48 5,497,985
EA2AAZ 1613 644 38 2,169,636
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA M/S LP
CT7T(@CT1EPV) 2491 768 48 3,866,112 Algarve Dx Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(A)AB HP
OR2T(DL2CC) 3064 947 36 7,433,003
OE2S(OE2VEL) 2560 873 36 5,325,300 BCC
LY2CY 2059 777 36 3,658,116 Lithuanian DX
DF3IAL 1706 729 36 2,921,832 BCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1500 637 26 1,887,431
YL8M(YL2KL) 735 384 7 752,640 Latvian CC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(A)AB LP
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 1505 583 32 1,853,940
S57UN(@S52ZW) 1146 582 36 1,463,730 SCC
OR4APU 712 420 24 529,200
M6T(G4PIQ) 350 247 5 196,859 Martlesham DX & CG
DL6LAU 247 171 101,061 BCC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(A)SB15 HP
OR4ATW(ON4ATW) 952 506 963,424
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 1234 536 33 1,494,368
YZ1KA 917 454 30 850,342 YU CC
PY2DEZ 27 27 1,809 TuPY DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(TS)AB HP
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 3863 838 36 10,293,154 Pretoria Contest Clu
PJ4M(K2QM) 2187 688 36 5,574,176 FRC
8S5A(SM5AJV) 2621 784 36 4,241,440 TOEC
RW4PL 1615 634 28 2,074,448
HB9CZF 880 461 22 1,004,058
OE8CIQ 969 451 17 782,936 BCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(TS)AB LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 2178 640 34 4,444,160 Chiltern DX Club
9A0DX(9A3PA) 2110 711 3,412,800 Croatian CC
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 2192 718 36 3,405,474
YL4U(YL2KL) 1423 653 24 1,892,394 Latvian CC
OM6RM 1021 452 30 987,620
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(TS)SB10 HP
DK2GZ 701 424 25 524,488 BCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(TS)SB20 LP
IR2V(I2WIJ) 560 359 10 403,516 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
PA0JED 376 310 10 217,620
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(TS)SB40 HP
M0TTT 1223 541 30 2,004,405
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(TS)SB80 HP
OH3XR 431 252 8 245,700 CCF
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOAB HP
P41P(K0DQ) 3932 937 36 12,833,152 SECC
P40Y(AE6Y) 3625 901 36 11,059,775 NCCC
PJ2U(K6LA) 3053 814 36 9,362,628 SCCC
SN7Q(SP7GIQ) 3118 869 36 6,878,000
DF3CB(LY1DS) 3198 864 36 6,670,080 BCC
3G1X(XQ1IDM) 2503 751 36 6,429,311
TM9C(F5IN) 2622 745 36 4,420,830 U.F.T.
J41YM(OK1YM) 2746 805 36 4,400,935
OE1A(OE1EMS) 2397 781 34 4,397,811
DF0FS(DL1EKC) 1586 590 36 1,885,050 RR DX
DJ6QT 1099 556 30 1,355,528 RR DX
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1008 481 24 1,220,778
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOAB LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2979 821 35 8,010,497
WP3C 2132 701 35 4,121,880
OK2PP 2205 759 36 3,645,477 FCC
YL/RZ3BY(@YL2KF) 2210 701 36 3,134,872 Latvian CC
SM5G(SM5JBM) 1661 629 36 2,161,873 TOEC
LA3BO 1660 628 36 2,114,476
M7W(G4IIY) 1728 574 30 2,005,556
DL4SDW 1451 593 36 1,825,847 RR DX
HB9ARF 1495 564 1,682,412
OZ8AE 1140 570 1,363,440
HA5UX/7 1068 524 1,309,476
F6IRF 825 436 23 755,152 Yota Sawe DX group
PU7EEL 509 318 569,856 Guara DX Group
OZ0RS 709 364 20 480,480
G4WFQ 533 319 16 366,850
EA1WX 359 263 8 193,042
S51NZ 262 204 112,608
PR7AB 149 116 66,816 Guara DX Group
YL2PN 100 84 2 17,808 Latvian CC
PT2AW 48 44 7 6,248 TuPY DX GROUP
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOAB QRP
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 1550 534 30 2,655,048
OT2A(JK3GAD) 897 494 33 943,046
9A7P(9A5AEI) 140 120 3 31,440 WWYC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB10 HP
HZ1AB(SM0CXU) 2305 669 27 3,783,195
OD5/OK1MU 1554 570 35 2,223,570
9H1ZA 1460 600 30 1,525,200
YZ1AU 1259 573 1,356,291 YU CC
SN8V(SP8LBK) 625 388 21 417,876
SP9W(SP9HWN) 340 268 17 170,448
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB10 LP
LT1F(LU1FAM) 1405 616 25 2,557,016
L51EXU(LW1EXU) 1333 578 2,281,366
OH3RB(@OPH3RB) 563 310 21 232,810 CCF
PR7FN 38 38 4,028 Guara DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB15 HP
PU3A(PY3DX) 2531 857 6,452,353 Araucaria Dx Group
9H0A(9H1EL) 2966 956 36 5,651,872
9K9O(9K2RR) 2191 761 34 4,632,207 KUWAIT AMATEUR RADIO
S56M(@S50Q) 2000 803 36 3,547,654 SCC
SN3A(SP8NR) 1652 730 34 2,736,040 SP DX CLUB
DK3DM 1573 732 34 2,618,364 RR DX
OH7M(OH4XX) 1551 682 32 2,200,000 CCF
OK2ZC 1288 627 36 1,731,774 OK DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB15 LP
OK1DDO 925 527 1,065,067
SP4DEU 761 473 22 801,735
PY8AZT 453 308 25 411,180 Uirapuru DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB160 HP
RN2FA(@RW2F) 1014 245 248,430
IK4AUY 123 88 9 21,648 MCC Marconi Contest
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB160 LP
9A3RE 272 165 12 90,915
LY2GW 132 104 27,144
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB20 HP
TA0/Z37M(Z31GX) 2134 746 35 4,474,508
OH4A(OH6QU) 1996 778 36 3,222,476 CCF
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1502 677 36 2,741,850 SRR
OK5W(OK2ZW) 1740 736 2,733,504
YL6W(YL2GD) 1809 735 36 2,516,640 Latvian CC
SP8GWI/8 645 340 536,180
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1026 554 26 1,687,484 Sarajevo Contest Gro
LY6A(LY2BM) 1250 629 36 1,465,570
S57Z 1120 560 35 1,199,520
SM7VZX 1070 560 1,163,680 SCC
T94FC 1086 549 34 1,112,274 Sarajevo Contest Gro
F5NLY 878 530 23 866,020 LNDX (Les Nouvelles
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB40 HP
YW1D(YV1DIG) 1083 536 23 3,419,144 Radio Club Venezolan
9A5E 1368 602 35 2,681,308 Croatian CC
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1271 549 36 2,117,493
HA8DU 1178 549 2,080,710
9A4X 1058 507 1,607,697 Croatian CC
OM0WR 946 475 21 1,371,800
ES4RD 721 378 701,568
TM1C(F6ARC) 500 331 6 581,236
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB40 LP
YZ1U(YT1UR) 894 471 30 1,163,370 YU CC
S53F 929 450 36 1,113,750
S54A 814 444 28 1,042,068 SCC
4Z8EE(OK1EE) 300 209 15 351,329 Czech Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB80 HP
Z39Z(Z32AF) 774 364 657,020 SKY CC
ZS4TX 101 60 6 35,820 Pretoria Contest Clu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB80 LP
OK2ZV 541 300 336,000
PY7ZY 204 159 190,800 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
KH6DV 147 92 7 77,924
Operators:
3V8BB 4N1FG,S56A,YT1AD,YU1RL,YU7NU
6Y2A K2KW,KE7X,N6BT,N6XG,N6XI,W0YK,WA60
8P4A M0SDX,VE3DZ
9A7A 9A2ME,9A3OS,9A3TR,9A4BT,9A4PA,9A4RX,9A6DM,9A7V,
9A8A
A61AJ A61AJ,N2AA,S50A,S50R,S51RE,S52ZW,S53A,S53R,
S56JXX,S57DX,S57J,S58Q,S59AA
AK3Z A45ZN,AK3Z,K3LP,N3SB,WX3B
AL7NJ DK2OY,DL3LAB,DL4RDJ,DL6RAI,KL7RA,N1TX
AM6IB EA3AIR,EA3KU,EA5BM
CT7T CT1GFK,CT1GPQ,ON5UM
EA2AAZ EA2AAZ,EA2CLU
ES9C ES1DW,ES2NA,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,
ES5RN,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
F9IE F6BEE,F6FFM,F6FGZ,F8CRH
GX6YB G0WKW,G3TKF,G3XSV
KI7Y K5ZM,K7ZUM,KI7Y
KM4M K4JA,K9GY,K9JY,W3BP
KT1V AG9A,KT1V,NT1N
KX7M AD6E,KX7M,N6KJ,W6NV,W6RGG
KZ4DX K1TO,K4LQ,N4TO,W4IR,W4QM
L75FM LU4FPZ,LU7AWP,LU8DW,LU9DAH
N0NI K0KD,K0RX,N0AV,N0NI
N2ED K2AF,KC2BMG,N2ED
NC7J K7CO,NG7M,W7CT,W7FB,W7WIK
NE6N N2NC,N2NT,N6RT
NM5O AD5Q,N5UM
NO2R K2NG,K2TW,NO2R
NP4Z NP3A,NP4Z
NR6O K3EST,K6AW,K6XC,KI7WX,N6BV
NT6K KA6BIM,KO6UW,NT6K
NY4A K2AV,K7GM,N4AF,W2CS
NZ1U KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
OL5T OK1DSZ,OK1DXF,OK1FHI,OK1KA,OK1QM,OK1TC,OK1WWJ
OL7R OK1VWK,OK1WMV,OK1XUV
OL8M OK1AY,OK1CM,OK1DRQ,OK1DX,OK1FCJ,OK1MR
OZ0XX OZ1BIZ,OZ3ZW,OZ5WQ
RM6A RA6AU,RA6AX,RA6CM,RA6CO,RN6AA,RN6BN,RV6YZ,UA6CQ
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TI5N CX6VM,N0KE,W1XE/0,W8QZA/6
VC6X TI2WGO,VE5FN,VE6BF,VE6EX,VE6JY,VE7AV,ZL1JG
VE7GL VA7AO,VA7OO,VE7GL
W4MYA K1SE,K4GAU,W4HJ,W4MYA,W4TJ,W4TNX,WU4G
W4NJK W4NJK,WB8TDA
WC4E K1TO,K4FB,K4OJ,N4GI,N4KM,T93M,W1CW,W1YL,WC4E
WL7E AL1G,KL2A,KL7FH,KL7Y,KL9A,WA2GO,WL7E
WW4T K4BAI,KU8E,W4AN
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6UFO,N6DE,N7MH,W1SRD,W6CT,W6LD,
W7SW,WX5S
WX6V K6LRN,WX6V
XM7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
YM3LZ LZ1UQ,LZ2CJ,LZ2FI,LZ2FV,LZ2HM,LZ2UU,TA3D
YT6A T95A,VK1AA,YT6A,YT6PSF,YT6T,YU1RE,YU6ZD,YU7EU,
YU7FN,YZ7DX
YT9X YT1RA,YU1JW,YU1UH,YU1ZZ,YU7BW
ZX3S PU3AGN,PU3LOM,PY3BM,PY3CQ,PY3FBI,PY3MM,PY3NZ,
PY3PAZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 2 09:10:51 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RSGB Jubilee - All Claimed Scores 02Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207021510.g62FApJ25442@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RSGB Jubilee - All Claimed Scores 02Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 6, 2002
E-mail logs to: hf.contests@rsgb.org.uk
Mail logs to:
RSGB HF Contests Committee
c/o SV Knowles, G3UFY
77 Bensham Manor Road
Thornton, Heath
Surrey CR7 7AF
UK
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SCW HP
N2ED 78 12 2 3,900 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SMixed HP
GQ6YB 2209 83 24 916,735 Bristol CG
MQ5ZAP 2171 62 24 673,010
G4FAL 999 32 159,840
XM4VV 892 33 21 146,850
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SSSB LP
CQ1CV(@CS6ARP) 567 55 12 155,925 Radio Clube Costa Ve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)CW HP
GQ3TXF(G3TXF) 1405 62 20 429,970
K6III 67 19 8 100 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)Mixed HP
LY4AA(@LY7A) 597 80 20 238,800
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 300 23 3 33,925
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)Mixed LP
GQ4IIY(G4IIY) 616 22 9 67,760
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)SSB HP
VE7AVV 102 17 8 1,734 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOCW HP
9H1ZA 1885 75 706,875
GQ4ZVJ(G4ZVJ) 1202 65 24 390,650
G3LET 1190 63 23 374,850 HARC
GW3NJW 1152 51 21 293,760
GM4SID 848 45 20 190,800
N4BP 316 51 14 80,580 FCG
GQ5LP(G5LP) 450 23 5 51,750 Mid Beds Contest Ass
K2SX 120 27 16,200 YCCC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOCW LP
XM3IAY(VE3IAY) 168 25 21,000
RW3VZ 133 26 17,290
HB9ARF 150 20 15,000
AB2E 66 17 4 5,610 FRC
VE9DX 75 12 1 4,500
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOMixed HP
XM3EJ(VE3EJ) 1771 91 24 801,225
TI5/N0KE(@TI5KD) 225 44 10 49,500 Grand Mesa
SP9W(SP9HWN) 245 33 40,425
W4SAA 138 34 23,430 FCG
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOMixed LP
VE3MQW 224 34 38,080
ZC40DW(G0DEZ) 558 13 7 36,270 Eastern Sovereign Ba
LY2XW 224 30 33,600
K4OGG 143 20 13,800
GQ0DVJ(G0DVJ) 180 7 5 6,300
VO1TA(VO1WET) 386 8 6 1,930
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB HP
GS2MP(GM3WOJ) 1392 62 20 431,520 North of Scotland CG
GW0GEI 1044 48 15 250,560 Contest Cymru
XM3KZ(VE3KZ) 1021 42 214,200
GQ4BLE(GW4BLE) 711 39 138,645 Contest Cambria
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB LP
ZC40BS(G4KIV) 376 22 6 41,360
MQ5RIC(M5RIC) 409 8 16,360
9M2RPN(VK2CZ) 79 7 3 2,660
SV1XV 32 6 3 960
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB QRP
N3GXY 23 4 1 460
Operators:
CQ1CV CT1ERK,CT1ETE
GQ6YB G0HFX,G0WKW,G3TKF,G3XSV,G4FKA,G7ORR,M0AXF/EI3JE,
M0XXX
MQ5ZAP 5B4WN,M0TTT,M5ZAP
XM4VV VE4VV,VE4XT
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Tue Jul 2 13:34:08 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ron D. Rossi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] TRLog free version 1.06 fully supporting WRTC 2002
released...
Message-ID: <200207021634.MAA29058@johnpaul.btv.ibm.com>
Folks,
The latest version of TRLog Free has been released. TRFree Version 1.06
is based on the very latest TRLog Version 6.69 and is fully functional
except it only supports a limited list of contests. It includes full
logging support of WRTC 2002 including scoring and special
considerations for the "B" computer not being allowed to connect to a
radio. Cabrillo is not supported for WRTC at this time. The WRTC
committee accepts logs directly as a TR file (LOG.DAT).
A readme file with a detailed change history is included in the package or you
can read it at http://www.qth.com/tr/revhistory.html. Many enhancements have
been made in just the past few months, so the readme file is the best source
of documentation for them. Please e-mail me if you have questions.
You may download a copy at http://www.qth.com/tr.
Good luck to all the WRTC 2002 competitors!!
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron rossi(kk1l@arrl.net) <><
Support Programmer for TRLog
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From mjwetzel at comcast.net Tue Jul 2 17:25:17 2002
From: mjwetzel@comcast.net (Mike Wetzel)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 80 Meter Beam at W9RE
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.2.2.20020630101456.00b67200@mail.attbi.com>
Message-ID: <NCBBIPEKMKEIENBFHFHJMEPIFDAA.mjwetzel@comcast.net>
For all those asking about my 80 meter yagi presentation at Dayton, I have
finally finished the web page on it.
It is http://mywebpages.comcast.net/w9re/index.html
The 'hit counter' doesn't work yet and the numbers iding the pictures are
not aligned perfectly depending on your monitor. Other than that I think it
works.
Thanks for all the patience.
Mike W9RE
>From k8khz at comcast.net Tue Jul 2 19:23:41 2002
From: k8khz@comcast.net (Sean D. Fleming)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Club Callsigns
Message-ID: <000801c22217$1f01d080$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
Designs by ?2001 Stationery Heaven
I got this idea from another ham though wanted to check it out. If you and
other people such as a family member apply for a club call for a station
then you can contest with it. what license class does the station have or is
it of the control op at that time. and how would you use to file a score
with a contesting club at that time.
let me know your thoughts.
Sean , K8KHZ
http://www.geocities.com/k8khz
>From N6HC at aol.com Tue Jul 2 20:10:11 2002
From: N6HC@aol.com (N6HC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Sayre, PA
Message-ID: <6e.1eeac16b.2a538cd3@aol.com>
I'll be working in the area from July 8 to August 9, 2002. Any illustrious
participants on this reflector that reside in the area and wish to get
together with another reflector participant with similar amateur radio
interests?
73 Arnie N6HC
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>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Wed Jul 3 08:54:08 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (Timo)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Italy
Message-ID: <000501c2224d$c5be3b80$bec5f83e@tklimoff>
I going to make "a backpack tour" in Italy 17 July - 26 July 2002. I am
visiting at least in Roma, Firenze, Bologna and Milano.
If any Italian contester wants to meet over a beer or cappuchino, please email.
73 Timo OH1NOA / OH0NOA
-----------------------------------------------------------
Timo Klimoff timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi oh1noa@qsl.net
http://www.oh1noa.tk
>From contesting at eircom.net Wed Jul 3 08:33:07 2002
From: contesting@eircom.net (Tim Makins, EI8IC)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Scandinavian Activity Contest 1998
References: <004701c2086b$354c2220$3aa9a5c2@host>
<017401c208a6$dd331120$a2c5f83e@tklimoff> <013e01c20939$fa974a40$31aaa5c2@host>
<00bd01c2093d$acde4ca0$8ec5f83e@tklimoff>
Message-ID: <005d01c2225b$84a88480$8ea9a5c2@host>
I have just received a photocopy of 1998 SAC results from the Log Control
Co-ordinator. If anyone needs to know their scores, I will be happy to pass
the information on, though as this is on paper and will need to be hand
typed to your reply, please don't ask for 'all European Results' or 'all
Swedish Results' etc. !
73s Tim EI8Ic
www.qsl.net/ei8ic/
HF and Budget Contesting
>From W3DMB at aol.com Wed Jul 3 10:04:13 2002
From: W3DMB@aol.com (W3DMB@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Club Callsigns
Message-ID: <16c.ff89f66.2a54504d@aol.com>
RE:Club callsigns....
Sean,
The class of license of the License Trustee of the club callsign determines
what class the club license can be used as without very awkward composite
callsigns such as W3UDX/NO3Q if the stations trustee is a General and the
operator is an extra and wants to operate in the EXTRA portions of a band..
If the Station License TRUSTEE is an Extra then the call W3UDX (for example)
would be used "clean" by all operators although the subband restrictions on
individual operators still do apply. Note: During Field Day this
restriction seems to be ignored by almost all clubs...
This is usually so difficult that most clubs try to have as trustee an Extra
class licensee, that way the "correct" FCC call is easier to use. According
to FCC rules, an operator is restricted to frequencies authorized by his/her
class of license unless there is a control operator of the higher class
present.
If a club has a 1x2 call (that was usually reserved for extra class
operators) and the club has a General class operator file to be the trustee,
AND the club is made up now of Techs and Generals with no Extra class
operators, then the club would still hold the 1x2 call (which would look like
an Extra class) but could not legally operate in EXTRA class subbands.
With the new exams that we now have it should not be difficult to find an
individual who has an Extra class license to be the trustee to avoid the
mess.
Jerry, W3DMB
Trustee - W3UDX (Butler ARA club license)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In a message dated 02-Jul-02 21:50:59 Eastern Daylight Time,
k8khz@comcast.net writes:
> I got this idea from another ham though wanted to check it out. If you and
> other people such as a family member apply for a club call for a station
> then you can contest with it. what license class does the station have or
> is
> it of the control op at that time. and how would you use to file a score
> with a contesting club at that time.
> let me know your thoughts.
>
> Sean , K8KHZ
> http://www.geocities.com/k8khz
>
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>From mfiorucci at bigfoot.com Wed Jul 3 18:25:06 2002
From: mfiorucci@bigfoot.com (mfiorucci)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Log for Marconi Memorial Contest HF
Message-ID: <001101c222a6$cc930d60$1601640a@olidata>
Attention!!
The mailbox ik6ptj@qsl.net not work!!
Please, used temporarily ik6ptj@yahoo.it for send (or resend!) the log.
Thank you
ik6ptj
Contest Manager of Marconi Memorial Contest HF
www.qsl.net/ik6ptj/marconi.htm
>From gm3woj at talk21.com Wed Jul 3 17:22:09 2002
From: gm3woj@talk21.com (Chris Tran GM3WOJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Callsigns for WRTC 2002 ?
Message-ID: <000901c222a5$a317f640$09bafea9@chris.tranbtinternet.com>
Hello all
Can anyone tell me when a list of the exact callsigns in the
series OJ1 - OJ8 which are to be used by the WRTC 2002
teams will be available ? (I want to make up some check
sheets for our GB5HQ station) In WRTC 2000, I think the
list of S5xxx calls was available several days before the event.
73
Chris GM3WOJ
www.gm7v.com
>From tree at kkn.net Wed Jul 3 10:35:26 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC-2002
Message-ID: <200207031635.g63GZQU08285@loja.kkn.net>
Fellow contesters-
As you all know, WRTC-2002 will be taking place during the IARU contest
coming up in about 10 days. A few of us get to go to Helsinki to enjoy
the party, but the rest of us get to stay home. However, that doesn't
mean we can't all be part of the event.
Your radio can help connect you to the fun. This is a great chance
to turn on your radio - tune around and find guys to work. Even if you can
only spend an hour or two doing it - this will be enough time to show up in
the majority of the WRTC competitor's logs.
To help recognize those who do this - the Boring Amateur Radio Club will
put together a web page listing all of those stations who worked at least
10 of the WRTC stations (with the special OJ previx). Simply submit your
list of QSOs to barc@jzap.com to be listed.
There are also other awards programs being sponsored by the WRTC committee.
You can find out more about them at http://www.wrtc2002.org/general.htm.
Let's all try to get on for a little and be a part of this great event.
I will have a guest op at my station (the ham formerly known as XE1/AA6RX),
but will setup a station out in the barn to work some of the guys with my
own callsign.
For most of the US, the best time to work these guys will be shortly after
sunset on 20 meters (or perhaps 15 if the sun gets some spots). Here in
the pacific northwest, the Europeans are VERY loud at this time and the
WRTC guys should be easy to find and work - even with a modest setup.
You might also want to hand out some QSOs to the "other" people in the
contest as well. The exchange is an RST and your ITU zone. Both modes
are used during the contest. You can find the full rules on the arrl.org
web page.
It might be almost as much fun as the Florida QSO Party.
73 Tree N6TR
tree@kkn.net
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Wed Jul 3 17:48:58 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Club Callsigns
References: <16c.ff89f66.2a54504d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3D232AFA.B56EE7F@directvinternet.com>
To add to the timely remarks from others, one other note is in order.
IF the callsign being used is NOT a club call, the holder of that call
MUST be present at all times.
Field day isn't the only place this rule has been ignored.
73
Ed
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Jul 3 11:13:47 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 03Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207031713.g63HDl626556@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 03Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Wed Jul 3 11:36:27 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Club Callsigns
In-Reply-To: <3D232AFA.B56EE7F@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <20020703173627.44167.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi Ed and others..
One correction... As long as the holder of the
Call being used has designated an authorized
CONTROL OPERATOR to oversee the operations, the
holder of the callsign need not be present at the
op. The control operator(s) MUST be present to
maintain control over the operation.
Beyond that.. the person who holds the callsign
may go away. Of course.. should 'situations
arise' the holder of the callsign AND the control
op will be responsible for dealing with the
fallout.
Of course, the privledges authorized the station
are only those in concert with the holder of the
call OR the control operator (usually they hold
the same class of license).
You are correct, absolutely, in your thinking
that the rule is violated all the time when a
Club will allow a Call to be used at and event
and the trustee/holder of the call 'goes away'
and does not have a designated control operator
present to act in their stead.
73
Chuck K3FT
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>From Bill at ng3k.com Wed Jul 3 16:21:00 2002
From: Bill@ng3k.com (Bill@ng3k.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Announced Operations for Sep-Oct 2002 NCJ
Message-ID: <3D23165C.27391.25FE003@localhost>
Fellow Contesters,
The deadline for Contest-related DXpedition announcements
for the Sep/Oct 2002 issue of the National Contest Journal
issue is July 20. This issue should arrive in your mailboxes
during the first or second week in September.
Now is the time to relate your Dxpedition plans for the Fall
CQWW DX contests, as well as the ARRL 10m and 160m
contests. Please get them to me prior to the July 20
deadline so that they can appear in the Sep/Oct issue.
You can complete a Web-based form at:
http://www.ng3k.com/Contest/consub.html
or you can E-mail to:
Bill@ng3k.com
including:
o Callsign to be used
o DXCC entity
o CQ Zone (for the CQWW contests)
o Entry class anticipated
o QSL route
o Your callsign and public E-mail address
o Operators + other information of likely interest
You can review what has been received to-date at:
http://www.ng3k.com/Contest/conasc.html
Thanks in advance and 73,
Bill/NG3K
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Wed Jul 3 19:00:11 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC-2002
Message-ID: <7c.2a55a99e.2a54cdeb@aol.com>
Tree,
Although it will be a serious come-down from the Florida QSO Party, Fred,
NA2U, and I will be operating from J75KG in the IARU contest. We hope that
all of the boys will take break from working the WRTC-OJ's and listen for us
to the south. We are good for a Zone 11 mult. We will be 80 thru 10 meters,
Inshallah.
73, George, J75KG (ex. K4FQP as in Florida Qso Party!)
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Jul 4 05:05:51 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
Message-ID: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
QST QST QST
Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
Quack
Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
> Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
>
> Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
>
> Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
14.
> 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
14.265
> 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> 78720-0812.
>
>
>
>
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>From Bill at ng3k.com Thu Jul 4 07:28:49 2002
From: Bill@ng3k.com (Bill@ng3k.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
Message-ID: <3D23EB21.17556.33F0AD@localhost>
I wasn't going to do this again this year, but since
folks are sending me information I'm relenting. This
is the URL for my list of HQ Stations planning to be
active in the IARU HF World Championship 2002:
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iaru2002.html
If you have information relating to a HQ (or IARU
Administrative Council or IARU regional Executive)
station that's planning to be active and would like
to have it listed here, please send it to:
Bill@ng3k.com
Hope this information proves useful to some of you.
73,
Bill/NG3K
>From N5RP at pdq.net Thu Jul 4 09:15:27 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704081107.00b92860@pop.pdq.net>
At 04:05 7/4/2002 +0000, Rex Maner wrote:
>QST QST QST
>Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
>
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z
> Jul 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465, 21.365,
> 14.265, 7.265.
> > QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX 78720-0812.
==========================>
I think we should all get in there and work this special event setup.
Who knows what the certificate might look like.
Volleyball, anyone ?
Bob Perring
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Thu Jul 4 09:22:36 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
In-Reply-To: <3D23EB21.17556.33F0AD@localhost>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704081706.00ba1a68@pop.pdq.net>
At 06:28 7/4/2002 -0400, Bill@ng3k.com wrote:
>I wasn't going to do this again this year, but since
>folks are sending me information I'm relenting. This
>is the URL for my list of HQ Stations planning to be
>active in the IARU HF World Championship 2002:
>
> http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iaru2002.html
==========================>
I see callsign NU1AW listed,
and thanks to Rex,
we now know NU5DE will be in there, as well.
Does NU5DE count as a special multiplier ?
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Thu Jul 4 09:52:10 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJGEKLEFAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
There seems to be a lot of activity in those groups....
Check the sign I found on a highway outside Austin:
http://www.hal-pc.org/~kg5u/index.html
73,
dale, kg5u
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Rex Maner
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 23:06
> To: CQ-CONTEST
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
>
> QST QST QST
> Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
> Quack
>
> Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
> > Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
> >
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> >
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
> 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
> 14.265
> > 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> > 78720-0812.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Thu Jul 4 10:00:02 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704085405.00b3a198@pop.pdq.net>
Here is a clarification on the IARU headquarter stations status for IARU 2002.
===========================
>NU1AW is the IARU HQ station.
>
>This is what the rules say:
>
> Multipliers: The total number of ITU zones plus IARU
> member society HQ stations worked on each band (not
> mode.) IARU officials represent a maximum of four
> multipliers per band (AC, R1, R2 and R3).
>
>Last year W6ROD was the R2 station. So unless NU5DE
>is an "IARU officials" station, it doesn't count as a
>multiplier.
=========================
So,
Last year, you could work a ROD, and it counted as an R2 bonus mult.
NU5DE will not count as an IARU 2002 bonus mult, whether the op has a rod,
or not.
.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From W4EF at dellroy.com Thu Jul 4 08:31:42 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Michael Tope)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
References: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <102601c22367$860a49a0$6501a8c0@1800XP>
Sounds like we need a new category for these folks, Quack?
How about SOBN - single operator buck naked?
Of course in this category the problems associated with
RF in the shack take on a whole new importance :)
Elmer Fudd, W4EF..................................
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
To: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:05 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
>
> QST QST QST
> Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
> Quack
>
> Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
> > Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
> >
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> >
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
> 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
> 14.265
> > 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> > 78720-0812.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>From hwardsil at centurytel.net Thu Jul 4 16:14:23 2002
From: hwardsil@centurytel.net (Ward Silver)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
References: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <003301c2236d$7ba036e0$27d7fea9@mirage>
Good thing it's not an ATV or SSTV contest...
73, Ward N0AX
> QST QST QST
> Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
> Quack
>
> Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
> > Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
> >
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> >
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
> 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
> 14.265
> > 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> > 78720-0812.
>From w2up at mindspring.com Thu Jul 4 16:11:07 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
Message-ID: <3D24658B.11150.FF1B40@localhost>
Recently installed a new computer and having an odd problem.
When transmitting with the amp on, I get hum in my computer speakers
(Harman Kardon with a subwoofer and 2 tweeters), but only when my
stubs are switched in, and only on 15m. It's either coming from the
speakers' AC line or the connection between speakers, as the hum is
still there when not connected to the computer. I've tried ferrites on the
audio and AC lines, but that didn't help. Ideas?
Tnx,
Barry--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Thu Jul 4 17:45:33 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Press release #21: OJ call signs released
Message-ID: <01c22361$11bd1740$97c5f83e@default>
The call signs ( from OJ1-OJ8 prefix block) in WRTC2002 Contest used by 52
teams will be:
OJ1C OJ1F OJ1M OJ1N OJ1S OJ1W OJ1X
OJ2F OJ2H OJ2J OJ2Q OJ2V OJ2Y OJ2Z
OJ3A OJ3D OJ3N OJ3R OJ3T OJ3X
OJ4A OJ4M OJ4N OJ4S OJ4W
OJ5A OJ5E OJ5M OJ5T OJ5U OJ5W OJ5Z
OJ6C OJ6E OJ6K OJ6N OJ6W OJ6X OJ6Y
OJ7A OJ7C OJ7M OJ7N OJ7S OJ7W OJ7X
OJ8A OJ8E OJ8K OJ8L OJ8N OJ8W
You can download an Excel -checklist for the contest from:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/ojcalls.xls
Remember also our WRTC2002 Worked All New OJ prefixes awards and special
plaques + our special "Early Bird" prizes ( All e-mail logs submitted within 6
hours after the contest ends will participate in a lottery with special
WRTC2002 prizes), read full details: http://www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm .
WRTC2002 Organizing Committee
>From n5nw at n5nw.org Thu Jul 4 14:07:39 2002
From: n5nw@n5nw.org (Marty N5NW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A plane trip conversation from Dayton 2002
Message-ID: <001401c2237d$531b7df0$3339a8c0@dayton.hospiceofdayton.org>
Although I'm now local to Dayton, I had a business trip to take and found
myself at the Dayton airport for a 1:35pm flight Sunday afternoon after the
Dayton Hamvention, bound for Detroit. Probably 20 or 25 hams on the flight
(regional jet, capacity around 65 I'd guess). As we were waiting, the only
seat vacant was next to me. Who walks down the aisle?
Martti Lane, OH2BH.
Man, what an absolute stroke of luck. 45 uninterrupted minutes of
conversation with perhaps one of the greatest ambassadors of ham radio in
the world. I almost felt like I'd been granted an audience with the Pope or
something ... But here was a very down-to-earth guy genuinely interested in
a conversation with me. Very sincere, very genuine, and very easy to speak
with.
Martti spoke at the contest forum, and is currently organizing WRTC 2002 in
Finland. But on the plane, he spoke to me about the first WRTC in Seattle,
and the problems that were encountered that the Organizing committee was
trying to avoid 10 years later.
That led to a discussion of what good ham radio can do as ambassadors, and
how little the typical DXpedition (both general DX and contest) adds to the
local environment. He (like I) visited Albania. I made about 45 contacts.
He made several thousand contacts, and created 20 or so licensed amateurs,
and instituted the amateur radio system in the government of Albania. Even
the license document format (double columns, in Albanian and English) was
his creation.
He didn't say this to brag ... far from it. Rather, making a positive
impact on the locations he visits has become a priority. He was so taken
aback by the hospitality of the Albanian people, and how the experience
impacted him (and his son, who accompanied him). But since then, his
outlook on DXpeditions has changed. As he told me, DXers will never be the
Red Cross, nor should we be. But we (as a whole) need to examine ways we
can leave the areas we visit better than we found them. And not just with
our equipment. We have to also share our knowledge. And, hard as this is
to realize, we may have a little to learn ourselves. Martti freely admits
he got more from his experience in Albania than he left.
He spoke of his host family back in 1992, and the matriarch going about each
morning to gather the day's food from various vendors in the neighborhood in
which they lived. This same ritual occurred during my visit two years ago.
One shop for bread, another for produce, another for meat. Nothing beyond
that day, as preservation of foods is still quite difficult, and appliances
hard to come by.
But one particular morning, the matriarch returned with something special.
After asking around, she had located an egg. One egg. And as the family
gathered, they insisted that Martti's son enjoy the egg that obviously they
hadn't had in some time. Martti's son told him that was the most difficult
egg he had ever eaten. But the family did receive their reward ... they
enjoyed him, enjoying the egg!
He spoke of the Solomon Islands trip, and how they convinced the locals to
manufacture soaps and other materials from the native coconut trees. For a
$25 donation to the local cause, you got a commemorative QSL, rather than
the standard QSL. You got the card perhaps a few days quicker. But the
locals got the money. He expected to raise perhaps $4,000 to $5,000 and
ended up with five times that, through the generosity of the DX community.
I really didn't intend that this sound "preachy". But I hope we all begin
asking questions of the DXpeditions about how they have a positive impact on
the places they visit. I hope we demand our contesters who were selected
for WRTC also remember that they are ambassadors for amateur radio and the
USA, whether or not they want to be. The WRTC is an excellent opportunity.
Recall the US Hockey Team at the Nagano Olympics? They trashed the place
after a loss. They did not remember that they were not only competetors,
but also Ambassadors.
Other countries come to mind -- North Korea offers some real opportunities,
just as Albania did in 1970 when Martti first visited. It took 22 years,
but Amateur Radio is now established. And the Albanian regime was even
tougher than the current North Korean regime! Many inroads can still be
made in Southeast Asia, China, and the African continent. Ham Radio --
Ambassadors of International Goodwill.
Martti, thanks for sharing that plane ride with me. It has changed my
outlook on Amateur Radio, and how we might impact our world for positive
change.
de N5NW/8 (Marty)
Bellbrook, Ohio
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Thu Jul 4 14:17:30 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704081706.00ba1a68@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDMEHEELAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Bob, N5RP
> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 09:23
> To: Bill@ng3k.com; CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
>
>
> At 06:28 7/4/2002 -0400, Bill@ng3k.com wrote:
> >I wasn't going to do this again this year, but since
> >folks are sending me information I'm relenting. This
> >is the URL for my list of HQ Stations planning to be
> >active in the IARU HF World Championship 2002:
> >
> > http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iaru2002.html
> ==========================>
> I see callsign NU1AW listed,
>
> and thanks to Rex,
> we now know NU5DE will be in there, as well.
>
> Does NU5DE count as a special multiplier ?
> Bob Perring
The NU5DE QSL card is singularly unsatisfying, but still is an
item of interest in this shack!
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
>From nt5c at texas.net Thu Jul 4 13:34:33 2002
From: nt5c@texas.net (John Warren)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Life is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJGEKLEFAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
References: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJGEKLEFAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Message-ID: <p04330100b94a44b64cea@EIM-Mac-1.0.7>
>There seems to be a lot of activity in those groups....
>
>Check the sign I found on a highway outside Austin:
>
>http://www.hal-pc.org/~kg5u/index.html
>
>73,
>dale, kg5u
...or our favorite bumper sticker: KEEP AUSTIN WEIRD
73, John, NT5C.
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Thu Jul 4 14:40:55 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NU5DE and Operating Style
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704081706.00ba1a68@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDGEHFELAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
All the NU5DE conversation brings to mind the cartoon I
found recently.
http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/images/CasualFriday.jpg
Given that *I* am a telecommuter, and the temperature in my
workspace has been over 90 degF for many hours each day
over the past week, this image resonates!
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Jul 4 12:30:43 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Supporting The WRTC- AKA working the OJ's
References: <200207041602.g64G2uKF003669@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <034d01c2236f$c2ef4d40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
I agree, we all should make an effort to participate in the Radiosport next
weekend...and a little extrat effort be made to target band times favourable
for northern European QSOs...Radiosport is a fun contest - short enough to
do the full stint even for us old guys! It is a simple exchange (justy
remember it is your ITU NOT your CQ zone you are sneding...see ARRL web page
for the list of ITU zones)
Work as many calls with OJ in them as possible on as many different bands as
possible, that is ALWAYS a good philosophy...except for SS :-)
I slightly disagree with N6TR about whether or not the Radiosport will be as
much fun as the Florida QSO Party - they do share a lot in common...
You will be working some of the finest operators in the world - and - you
will be working members of the Florida Contest Group, too!
9 days 'til WRTC and Radiosport 2,002!
Good luck also to the W1AW/5 crew...go team USA!
73,
K4 OJ
(aka operator K4FCG in the one and only Florida QSO Party)
>From nt5c at texas.net Thu Jul 4 14:18:14 2002
From: nt5c@texas.net (John Warren)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Life is stranger than fiction
Message-ID: <p04330101b94a4fd0e8a1@EIM-Mac-1.0.7>
>There seems to be a lot of activity in those groups....
>
>Check the sign I found on a highway outside Austin:
>
>http://www.hal-pc.org/~kg5u/index.html
>
>73,
>dale, kg5u
...or our favorite bumper sticker: KEEP AUSTIN WEIRD
73, John, NT5C.
>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Thu Jul 4 20:04:58 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] GW7X QSLs
Message-ID: <VA.00000190.0085307b@gw3njw>
Hi
If you have sent a direct QSL to Contest Cambria, probably to
the manager GW3XEJ, you might be fretting that you have not yet
received a reply .
Frankly, we underestimated the attraction of the GW7X call (
about 100:1 cf my own call), and our usual printing system has
been quite overwhelmed. We currently await a bulk printing from
UT land, and as soon as they are available, the backlog will be
cleared.
Please accept our apologies for this discourtesy. We hope to see
you all in the forthcoming contests. fyi, member Ed/G3SQX ( aka
N0ED) will activate the call as GM7X in the IOTA contest at the
end of the month, so don't be confused, as this will not show in
the SCP database as yet.
Thank you for your indulgence and the bandwidth.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
Contest Cambria
>From 107770.3462 at compuserve.com Thu Jul 4 17:28:28 2002
From: 107770.3462@compuserve.com (James P. Cassidy)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NU5DE
Message-ID: <200207041628_MC3-1-514-36F2@compuserve.com>
Possibly another operator category if its an outdoor FD type operation, SO
Sunburned Operator? 73 Jim KI7Y
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Fri Jul 5 00:46:57 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Supporting The WRTC- AKA working the everybody i.e.
participating IARU2002
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12D9D@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Gents,
There are also others that will have fun.
OJ*.* is just one bunch of happy teams.
Pls visit
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iaru2002.html
to see some of the Headquarters Radio Leagues
all over the World have on the air.
We will have as much fun.
Headquarters stations will have also the Top Band,
which OJ*.* stations are lacking.
CU in IARU 2002 Radiosport July 13-14th, 12-12Z !
73,
Jukka, OH6LI
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Jim White [mailto:k4oj@tampabay.rr.com]
> Sent: 04 July, 2002 18:31
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Supporting The WRTC- AKA working the OJ's
>
>
> I agree, we all should make an effort to participate in the
> Radiosport next
> weekend...and a little extrat effort be made to target band
> times favourable
> for northern European QSOs...Radiosport is a fun contest -
> short enough to
> do the full stint even for us old guys! It is a simple
> exchange (justy
> remember it is your ITU NOT your CQ zone you are
> sneding...see ARRL web page
> for the list of ITU zones)
>
> Work as many calls with OJ in them as possible on as many
> different bands as
> possible, that is ALWAYS a good philosophy...except for SS :-)
>
> I slightly disagree with N6TR about whether or not the
> Radiosport will be as
> much fun as the Florida QSO Party - they do share a lot in common...
>
> You will be working some of the finest operators in the world
> - and - you
> will be working members of the Florida Contest Group, too!
>
> 9 days 'til WRTC and Radiosport 2,002!
>
> Good luck also to the W1AW/5 crew...go team USA!
>
>
> 73,
>
>
> K4 OJ
> (aka operator K4FCG in the one and only Florida QSO Party)
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From K5NZ at aol.com Thu Jul 4 18:48:11 2002
From: K5NZ@aol.com (K5NZ@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC
Message-ID: <18e.a2a72e3.2a561c9b@aol.com>
To all you WRTC teams.. Have a great experience and good luck!
USA USA USA!
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>From k8cx at hamgallery.com Thu Jul 4 21:43:13 2002
From: k8cx@hamgallery.com (Thomas Roscoe)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dayton 2002 Gallery is up!
Message-ID: <3D24EBA1.197B1DDD@hamgallery.com>
The Dayton 2002 Gallery is now up at http://hamgallery.com/dayton2002/.
The Gallery has 154 photos this year. I took 97 photos and the rest came
from W4MYA, XE1L, VP5JM, N1DG, K8AV, and K8KHZ. There are still some
unidentified people in these photos. If you know who these unknown hams
are, please let me know.
There is photo coverage of the Contesters Banquet, Top Band Dinner, DX
Dinner, and Crowne Plaza Hospitality Suites.
I am interested in putting up a WRTC 2002 Gallery. Unfortunately, I
won't be able to attend. If you go, take some pics and send them to me
for the Gallery. You can email them to k8cx@hamgallery.com or burn them
on a disk and mail it to:
Tom Roscoe K8CX
857 N. Albright McKay Rd.
Brookfield, Ohio 44403
Tnx,
Tom...K8CX...
>From k7qq at netzero.net Fri Jul 5 05:04:55 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
Message-ID: <00d801c223d9$80224480$da262a42@k7qq>
Perfect Fix
Turn the speakers OFF
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 15:11
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
> Recently installed a new computer and having an odd problem.
> When transmitting with the amp on, I get hum in my computer speakers
> (Harman Kardon with a subwoofer and 2 tweeters), but only when my
> stubs are switched in, and only on 15m. It's either coming from the
> speakers' AC line or the connection between speakers, as the hum is
> still there when not connected to the computer. I've tried ferrites on the
> audio and AC lines, but that didn't help. Ideas?
> Tnx,
> Barry--
> Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>
>
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>From aa4lr at arrl.net Fri Jul 5 09:46:55 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Computer time syncronization without using the
internet???
Message-ID: <20020705124825.LBPD25736.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 6/26/02 6:54 PM, VR2BrettGraham at vr2bg@harts.org.hk wrote:
>VA7NT needs to accurately set a computer's clock without resorting to
>the Internet.
Got GPS? Before you can know where you are, your GPS receiver has to
figure out what time it is, and does so very accurately.
GPS is how the NCCC beacon stations stay synchronised.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Fri Jul 5 10:40:36 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>; from Rex Maner on Thu, Jul
04, 2002 at 04:05:51AM -0000
References: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <20020705094036.C1763@cs.utexas.edu>
The astute observer will notice that this special event station's
operation overlaps with the W1AW/5 ARRL HQ operation in the Austin, TX
area in the IARU HF World Championship.
Keep Austin Weird.
On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 04:05:51AM -0000, Rex Maner wrote:
>
> QST QST QST
> Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
> Quack
>
> Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
> > Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
> >
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> >
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
> 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
> 14.265
> > 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> > 78720-0812.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
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>From aa4lr at arrl.net Fri Jul 5 14:20:29 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Restoring High Band/Low Band categories in ARRL DX Test
Message-ID: <20020705172030.EKZP1238.imf24bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 6/18/02 9:25 AM, Dave Hachadorian at K6LL@adelphia.net wrote:
>
>2. There are a lot of stations around the world
>who have a small tower and tribander
>in the back yard, and an assortment of low,
>seriously compromised antennas for 40,
>80, and 160. There is not much incentive for these
>stations to get on the air in the
>all band category, since they know that they
>cannot turn in a competitive score. On the
>other hand, a tribander can do a quite creditable
>job on the high bands, which would
>encourage activity.
I know I'm a bit late to the party on this issue, but I'd like to
disagree with Dave here. I believe there's an errant assumption at work
here.
If the sole purpose of operating contests was to put in a winning score,
then the sport would soon dwindle down to just a dozen or so "serious"
contesters.
The guys (like me) with a small tower and tribander and compromised
antennas for the other bands aren't necessarily competing against
everyone else in the same category. Sometimes, we're just out to turn in
a better score than last year, or to beat the guy down the street, or in
the next county.
The small tower / tribander guys are already going to be concentrating on
the higher bands -- that's where their stations are effective. I don't
see where a high/low band split would encourage activity here. If
anything, it might lower single band scores on the lower bands since
folks won't bother even trying them out.
I don't think you encourage activity by limiting bands -- why not a TS
category, like that in WPX? (Although this has it's own inequities, as a
guy with a C51XR at 100 feet likely outclasses the guy with a HF4B at 20
feet)
>To me, the payoff in any contest is to enjoy the
>contest experience itself, and, afterward, to
>to see how I ranked, with the data arranged the
>way I like to see it presented.
I really like seeing the internet results. I found out I was #78 out of a
field of 800-odd in low-power SS Phone. Maybe this year, I can break into
the top 50 again.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From w9wi at w9wi.com Fri Jul 5 13:43:02 2002
From: w9wi@w9wi.com (Doug Smith W9WI)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Hum and stubs
In-Reply-To: <200207051603.g65G3f5r013440@contesting.com>; from
cq-contest-request@contesting.com on Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 12:03:41PM -0400
References: <200207051603.g65G3f5r013440@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <20020705124302.A7903@w9wi.com>
> From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
>
> Perfect Fix
> Turn the speakers OFF
That might not help!
Seriously, in my experience computer speakers are just about the most
RF-sensitive pieces of gear out there. In many of our offices at work we
have to put Radio Shack choke cores on the cables (both power and audio) or
we get WSM-FM louder than we get the computer audio.
The choke cores should work just fine for HF too. Though Rex is probably
right that the easiest fix is to just turn them off...
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com
>From k2av at contesting.com Fri Jul 5 15:13:14 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
References: <00d801c223d9$80224480$da262a42@k7qq>
Message-ID: <001701c2244f$a12ef260$0500a8c0@swift>
Try RF in the shack, plus your new stuff is poorly rf-proofed from the
factory (big surprise), and the stubs are just changing the lengths of
things, so the hot spots move around.
Check the archives on TowerTalk for a huge wealth of commentary on
grounding, etc.
73, Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
To: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 12:04 AM
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
> Perfect Fix
> Turn the speakers OFF
> Quack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 15:11
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
>
>
> > Recently installed a new computer and having an odd problem.
> > When transmitting with the amp on, I get hum in my computer
speakers
> > (Harman Kardon with a subwoofer and 2 tweeters), but only when my
> > stubs are switched in, and only on 15m. It's either coming from
the
> > speakers' AC line or the connection between speakers, as the hum
is
> > still there when not connected to the computer. I've tried
ferrites on the
> > audio and AC lines, but that didn't help. Ideas?
> > Tnx,
> > Barry--
> > Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> > Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
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>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Fri Jul 5 15:35:02 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 IARU 2002 Bulletin #3
In-Reply-To: <20020619162639.D9927@cs.utexas.edu>; from Kenneth E. Harker on
Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 04:26:39PM -0500
References: <20020619162639.D9927@cs.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <20020705143501.H2236@cs.utexas.edu>
BULLETIN #3
5 July 2002
Propagation Predictions for W1AW/5
Central Texas area contesters are gearing up for the 2002 IARU HF World
Championship the weekend of 13-14 July. Six area contest stations will
be signing W1AW/5, representing the United States of America as the ARRL
"Headquarters Station."
To help prepare for the contest, W1AW/5 team member Tom Whiteside N5TW
has prepared a set of propagation predictions for the weekend. Tom used
IC Graph, a Visual Basic application he wrote for use inside Microsoft
Excel. IC Graph uses the IONCAP HF propagation software engine to produce
data that it then charts in Microsoft Excel. For more information on Tom's
software, which he has made available to the Amateur Radio community, visit
the IC Graph distribution page on the Central Texas DX & Contest Club web
site at: http://www.ctdxcc.org/icgraph/.
The propagation predictions are available online and are based on an assumed
solar flux of 135: http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr/misc/w1aw/iaru_propagation.html
The predictions include specific short path predictions between the central
Texas W1AW/5 stations and England, Germany, Russia, Japan, Australia, China,
Siberia, Jordan, the Caribbean, north Africa, south Africa, Argentina, and
India. Long path predictions were also generated for Russia and India. The
predictions can be viewed by destination or by band. Please send comments
and questions about the IC Graph predictions to Tom Whiteside N5TW at
n5tw@igg-tx.net.
The W1AW/5 stations are some of the most exceptional contest stations in
the central United States. The team considers these predictions to be merely
rough guides and will certainly be looking to make every QSO with every
station possible worldwide, whether the predictions suggest it is likely
or not. W1AW/5 will be on all the band-modes for the entire twenty four hours.
ARRL Headquarters will handle all QSL requests. QSL via W1AW: 225 Main
Street, Newington, CT 06111, USA. Please do not send QSL cards to the
W1AW/5 station owners or operators.
Please direct comments or questions about W1AW/5 in the 2002 IARU HF World
Championship to Richard King K5NA at k5na@texas.net. For more information
about the Central Texas DX & Contest Club visit http://www.ctdxcc.org/.
--
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University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From dave at egh.com Fri Jul 5 20:48:14 2002
From: dave@egh.com (David Clemons)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] re: W1AW/5 IARU 2002 Bulletin #3
Message-ID: <00A107E5.5D81F60C.11@egh.com>
Hi,
I didn't notice propagation predictions for W5 <-> W1 paths
(New England instead of [Old] England). Do you guys have any idea
whether we'll be able to work Texas from here during the contest?
:-)
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Sat Jul 6 02:16:01 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Computer time syncronization without using
the internet???
In-Reply-To: <20020705124825.LBPD25736.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0
.20]>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020706011049.01fdc950@pop.pacific.net.hk>
AA4LR suggested:
> >VA7NT needs to accurately set a computer's clock without resorting to
> >the Internet.
>
>Got GPS? Before you can know where you are, your GPS receiver has to
>figure out what time it is, and does so very accurately.
>
>GPS is how the NCCC beacon stations stay synchronised.
When VR2B operated from my QTH, it was a little annoying that I couldn't
see the time the GPS receiver was providing to the beacon controller.
I didn't mention before that the wristwatch approach does start with
synchronization with a Rubidium-referenced master clock at the earth station
where I work, which in turns talks to something back in NA that's pretty
darn close to UT1.
Place of employment soon to vanish, so perhaps I should host VR2B again -
I might have enough spare time on my hands then to add time display to the
controller. ;^(
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From k4ww at arrl.net Sat Jul 6 06:53:39 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Hum and stubs
References: <200207051603.g65G3f5r013440@contesting.com>
<20020705124302.A7903@w9wi.com>
Message-ID: <005b01c224d3$01a3b300$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
"Doug Smith W9WI" <w9wi@w9wi.com> wrote: "we get WSM-FM louder than we get
the computer audio."
The last time I listened to WSM, it certainly sounded better than any
computer audio I've heard! :)
C'Ya, Shelby
>From harry at oh6yf.com Sun Jul 7 03:38:09 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The WRTC Station OH6YF & Next Weeks photos
Message-ID: <004d01c22546$2f6fcdf0$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hello all!!!
It would be very nice to see all of you here in Finland during WRTC 2002!
If you are not coming here I will collect my photos to the Internet in the
address:
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
I hope we all could meet and make each other to be even better friends!!!
The next night I will be testing my station on 14185kHz. Maybe we'll meet
there...
Best 73
Harry OH6YF
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Sun Jul 7 11:40:38 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5
In-Reply-To: <MCBBJAHBAIHDJKDNKBBIKEEDCAAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
References: <143.110c2e1f.2a58cece@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020707102918.00ba09d8@pop.pdq.net>
The WRTC thing coming up next weekend .......
The prizes that are mentioned for early log turn in and for working all of
the OJ stations ..........
........... What, exactly, are these prizes ?
I'm drooling to know.
Also,
The W1AW/5 stations.......
Should they identify themselves as W5/W1AW, W1AW/W5, or is, in fact, W1AW/5
acceptable?
What meets the properly defined procedural configuration for station
identification?
If I work them using QRP, can I sign as N5RP/QRP ??
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Sun Jul 7 21:14:56 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (Timo)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5
References: <143.110c2e1f.2a58cece@aol.com>
<5.1.1.2.2.20020707102918.00ba09d8@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <018a01c225d9$d3339820$90c5f83e@tklimoff>
-----
> The WRTC thing coming up next weekend .......
>
> The prizes that are mentioned for early log turn in and for working all of
> the OJ stations ..........
> ........... What, exactly, are these prizes ?
> I'm drooling to know.
Early Bird lottery prizes are still secret :)
But check
http://www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm
how to win an award, special plaque or T-shirt!
73, Timo OH1NOA
WRTC2002 Webmaster, Competitor Correspondence
>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Mon Jul 8 15:25:07 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 - Special OJ Callsigns, A Reminder
Message-ID: <01c22672$1d855600$abc5f83e@default>
Worked All WRTC2002 - "Worked All New OJ prefixes"
Get your log in immediately after the contest and Win Valuable "Early
Bird" prizes - WRTC2002 special incentive for 6-hour log-in!
OJ1- OJ8 prefixes activated for the 1st time!
The WRTC2002 teams will be using special ?2x1? type of callsigns with special
OJ1-OJ8 prefixes (e.g. OJ1M). The OJ1-OJ8 prefixes are activated for the first
time in history to honour WRTC2002 - the Olympics of Amateur Radio contesting
in Finland.
The list of OJ callsigns is as follows:
OJ1C OJ1F OJ1M OJ1N OJ1S OJ1W OJ1X
OJ2F OJ2H OJ2J OJ2Q OJ2V OJ2Y OJ2Z
OJ3A OJ3D OJ3N OJ3R OJ3T OJ3X
OJ4A OJ4M OJ4N OJ4S OJ4W
OJ5A OJ5E OJ5M OJ5T OJ5U OJ5W OJ5Z
OJ6C OJ6E OJ6K OJ6N OJ6W OJ6X OJ6Y
OJ7A OJ7C OJ7M OJ7N OJ7S OJ7W OJ7X
OJ8A OJ8E OJ8K OJ8L OJ8N OJ8W
You can download an Excel -checklist for the contest from:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/ojcalls.xls
Worked All WRTC2002 - Rules for non-WRTC2002 stations
* The same WRTC2002 station can be worked once on CW and once on SSB on
each band.
* Each correct two-way CW or SSB QSO with a WRTC2002 station counts 1
point. A duplicate QSO on same band and mode counts 0 points.
* Score = total sum of QSO points
Logs:
Only e-mail logs (ASCII) are accepted.
The preferred log formats are Cabrillo, CT.ALL and TR.DAT.
The "Early Bird" logs should be submitted by 18.00 UTC on Sunday, July 14,
2002. Regular latest submission date is July 31, 2002.
All logs should be sent via e-mail to: logs@wrtc2002.org
NOTE: The subject field of the e-mail should contain your contest callsign,
e.g. " Subject: WRTC2002 OH2AAA"
Request for stations working the IARU 2002 contest
The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU 2002
contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002 contest
committee to be used as reference data within the official WRTC2002
log-checking procedure. The committee guarantees that these logs will be used
only for cross checking purposes of the WRTC2002 team championship.
NOTE: All e-mail logs submitted within 6 hours after the contest ends will
participate in a lottery with special WRTC2002 prizes.
Awards & Categories
The following "Worked All WRTC2002" awards will be issued based on the above
contest rules:
"Worked All WRTC2002" awards
Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op CW
Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op SSB
Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op Mixed
Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op CW
Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op SSB
Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op Mixed
Worked all WRTC2002 - IARU HQ stations
Awards will be given to the stations with highest number of points in the
following
categories:
1st 2nd 3rd
World
Europe
North America
South America
Asia
Africa
Oceania
HQ Stations
OH - Finland
Special Plaques
Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - CW
Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - SSB
Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - Mixed
Other Prizes
T-shirts (DX) Worked 130 WRTC2002 qsos
T-shirts (EU) Worked 200 WRTC2002 qsos
WRTC2002 ORGANIZING COMMITTEE (via OH1EH)
>From jaime at robles.nu Mon Jul 8 18:50:20 2002
From: jaime@robles.nu (Jaime Robles)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Home made Digital Voice Keyer and a Kenwood
Message-ID: <200207081750.24496.jaime@robles.nu>
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Hello all!
I have just finished a DVK (the K6XX one) but it does not work.
Well, i am not a good builder but i have built some kits and circuits
before... maybe i have made a mistake.
The main problem for me is that i have not used a DVK before so i don't know
about how it works...
Could anybody tell me about the connections to a kenwood rig, please? (TS-50
but i think the others have the same pinout).
On the other hand... if you know another DVK circuit and you can tell me about
the URL i will thank you.
Many thanks.
73.
- --
Un saludo,
Jaime Robles, EA4TV
jaime@robles.nu
Visita http://www.redlibre.net - La Red Libre de todos!
http://smsdx.net - El DXCluster en tu movil!
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>From Timothy.Urban at wc.ey.com Mon Jul 8 12:51:38 2002
From: Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com (Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plea for help re: headphones
Message-ID: <OF03D10011.5236C368-ON85256BF0.00555485@ey.com>
Recently bought a set of the Bose Noise Reducing headphones for contesting
based upon positive comments in the list archives.
While they do zero out a huge amount of transceiver fan noise and computer
whine, I have encountered two serious problems and am desperate for your
suggestions.
Rig = FT 1000 MK 5 + coax feed (incl. a coax rf choke and a w2du type
current balun) + wire ocfd. Runs up to 200 w rf at swr < 1.5 to 1 using
rig's built in tuner.
Problem 1: Bose headphones pick up a cw transmit (rf?) thump - slight on
the Low NR setting of the phones, huge on the High NR setting on the
phones. Added 8 turns of the headphone cable thru a snap together MFJ
torroid - didn't help. Intensity of thump varies band to band.
Reducing the power setting on the rig helps, but is not a viable
solution :).
My goal would be to be able to use the phones on the high NR
setting - it seems to provide valuable audio gain. Operating with the low
setting seems like running the rig with the attenuator on.
Problem 2: SSB: Transmitting voice on ssb with the rig's "monitor"
feature, using the stock Yaesu hand mike, creates ungodly feedback.
Thanks for any ideas - hope I don't have to give these things back
Tim
N5IIT
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>From kc1f at adelphia.net Mon Jul 8 16:14:09 2002
From: kc1f@adelphia.net (Stuart Santelmann)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 1996 T shirt ?
Message-ID: <016e01c22689$bdc87040$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Anyone have some last minute help ? I leave for WRTC 2002 in 2 hours, at
2PM EDST. I can't remember if in WRTC 1996 they had T shirts, in addition
to the cards and letter opener. I want to bring the shirt to Finland, but
can't remember if there was one, or where it is in my house, hi. I do have
the 2000 one.
TIA Stu KC1F WRTC 2002 referee
>From aa4ga at contesting.com Mon Jul 8 13:08:00 2002
From: aa4ga@contesting.com (Lee Hiers)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Radio Question
Message-ID: <3D2980A0.3079.EA6BB1@localhost>
Howdy...
I thought I might actually operate a contest for a change, and was
getting some stuff together this past weekend in anticipation of the
IARU, when I discovered my ol' reliable TS440 has apparently passed
on.
So, I'm thinking about getting another radio. My main rig is an FT-
990. My first thought is to get another 990, as I'm happy with that
rig...but they're OOP and aging. I do like that they're <1000 bucks.
What new mid-level rigs are going to work as well? - primarily
interested in how they perform for RX in a contest environment
obviously!
How about the Icom 746pro? Has anyone used this rig in a contest?
I don't really want to stretch the budget to 2000, but I could...what
other recent rigs should I consider?
Thanks,
Lee
--
Lee Hiers, AA4GA
Cornelia, Georgia
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Mon Jul 8 12:18:22 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 IARU 2002 Bulletin #4
In-Reply-To: <20020705143501.H2236@cs.utexas.edu>; from Kenneth E. Harker on
Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 02:35:02PM -0500
References: <20020619162639.D9927@cs.utexas.edu>
<20020705143501.H2236@cs.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <20020708111822.K876@cs.utexas.edu>
BULLETIN #4
8 July 2002
W1AW/5 Honor Roll Announced
Central Texas area contesters are gearing up for the 2002 IARU HF World
Championship the weekend of 13-14 July. Six area contest stations will
be signing W1AW/5, representing the United States of America as the ARRL
"Headquarters Station."
Organizers have announced that the W1AW/5 operation will create a "W1AW/5
Honor Roll" listing the callsign of every contest operation that works
W1AW/5 on all twelve band-modes, on all six CW bands, or on all six phone
bands. The Honor Roll will be featured prominently on the Central Texas
DX & Contest Club web site: http://www.ctdxcc.org/.
Those looking for the opportunity to work the W1AW portable operation
will have ample opportunity. Many stateside operators may even have better
luck on the low bands during the daylight hours, when the band is quieter
and there's less QRM. All of the W1AW/5 stations have survived the recent
heavy storms well, and were not affected by the flooding near the San
Antonio and New Braunfels areas. All systems are go, and W1AW/5 will be
on the air on all the bands and modes, for the entire twenty-four hours.
ARRL Headquarters will handle all QSL requests. QSL via W1AW: 225 Main
Street, Newington, CT 06111, USA. Please do not send QSL cards to the
W1AW/5 station owners or operators.
Please direct comments or questions about W1AW/5 in the 2002 IARU HF World
Championship to Richard King K5NA at k5na@texas.net. For more information
about the Central Texas DX & Contest Club visit http://www.ctdxcc.org/.
--
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Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From kc1f at adelphia.net Mon Jul 8 17:35:08 2002
From: kc1f@adelphia.net (Stuart Santelmann)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 1996 T shirt ?
References: <016e01c22689$bdc87040$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <018701c22695$132b90c0$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Found it ! Tnx anyway - my XYL had stored it. It's mostly white, so hard
to find...
CU in OH !
Stu KC1F
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart Santelmann" <kc1f@adelphia.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:14 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 1996 T shirt ?
> Anyone have some last minute help ? I leave for WRTC 2002 in 2 hours, at
> 2PM EDST. I can't remember if in WRTC 1996 they had T shirts, in addition
> to the cards and letter opener. I want to bring the shirt to Finland, but
> can't remember if there was one, or where it is in my house, hi. I do
have
> the 2000 one.
>
> TIA Stu KC1F WRTC 2002 referee
>
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>From dick.green at valley.net Mon Jul 8 14:51:15 2002
From: dick.green@valley.net (Dick Green)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
Message-ID: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
And the winner is...
I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m antennas
"side-by-side" and thought the results would be of interest. I've had a 40m
4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five years. Yesterday,
I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC portable guyed
military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two antennas. There was
no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units louder than the
4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB per S-unit, that
translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher would improve
these results.
I say the opportunity for such a comparison is rare because most people
replace one antenna with another rather than keeping the old one and adding
a new one. We often see claims like "this antenna is so much better than my
old antenna", when the comparison is actually made from memory of what the
old antenna was like. That's subjective at best. There's no substitute for
being able to switch back and forth under a wide variety of conditions. It's
also nice when the difference is definitive, as it was in my test.
I've been wondering about the relative merits of the 4-square and beam for
some time. A couple of years ago, someone at a YCCC meeting complained that
his 40m 4-square just couldn't keep up with the 2-el beams (can't remember
who it was.) I disputed the claim, feeling that my full-size 4-square with
60 radials per element was reasonable close in performance to a 2-el yagi.
This assertion was partly based on having done reasonably well on 40m in
contests, partly based on denial (building a 4-square is a lot of work!),
but mostly based on having misunderstood the theoretical gain numbers for a
4-square. I thought that a 4-square had about 5.5dB gain over a dipole,
roughly equivalent to a 40-2CD. In fact, the gain of a 4-square is only
5.5dB over a single vertical (monopole.) Near as I can figure it, a dipole
over real ground is about 5.5dB louder than a monopole over average ground.
That would make a 4-square about equivalent to a dipole. The 40-2CD would
therefore be at least 5.5dB louder than the 4-square, and probably more if
the 4-square efficiency isn't optimum. That explains the test results pretty
well.
Before you call me a doofus for making that mistake, go try to find the
numbers in the ARRL Antenna Handbook or in ON4UN's Low Band DXing -- the
numbers are there but you have to do a lot of flipping around and converting
of dBi to dBd, adjusting for ground, etc. A simple table comparing various
antenna designs under "typical" conditions would be nice, wouldn't it?
I got really interested in the comparison when I noticed that as my contest
scores got better by improving other antennas, my 40m QSOs always lagged the
competition. Eventually, it became clear that I was giving away too much on
40m and that I must have been wrong about the 4-square. Luckily, the used
40-2CD became available for a one-year loan just as I was pondering what to
do (the same fellow loaned me an extension kit for the AB-577/GRC that can
raise the height to 75 feet.)
Of course, a 4-square has other advantages. If the radial system is good,
the radiation angle should be lower. I'll have to check that out on some
long-haul paths. More important, the F/B of the 4-square is much better than
the 40-2CD. The 4-square has an F/B of at least 20dB, while the 40-2CD seems
to be about 5dB-15dB (hard to measure, but it's clearly not very good.) This
could be important when stateside QRM is bad. Also, the 4-square is
significantly less noisy than the 40-2CD. Finally, the 4-square can switch
directions instantly. Still, all in all, I'll take the extra forward gain! I
should get a chance to check out the 40-2CD in action this weekend in IARU.
I've always loved the "idea" of a 4-square (an antenna you can build with no
concrete and no help), and it really is an excellent compromise antenna, but
it just doesn't cut it for bands higher than 80m.
73, Dick WC1M
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Mon Jul 8 19:04:50 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [YCCC] 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <000e01c226a9$f5a428e0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Interesting. But you should really compare them over a longer period,
especially during good spring or fall propagation. In many years of
experience here a full size 4-square with only 4 radials raised about 5'
has performed better than a 40-2cd at 60' on long paths into Russia and
asia. It was sometimes as good as a 40-2cd at 120'. Now that the
40-2cd's are at 90' and 180' it is rarely as good as either one. The
main advantages I see in having both is that the f/b of the 4 square is
better so sometimes it hears better, the takeoff angle is different so
sometimes it is better on some paths, it is good for a quick switch in
direction when getting called by an LU or JA when working Europe, and it
is vertical which provides a choice of polarization(though this doesn't
seem as important as it is on 80m and 160m).
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yccc-admin@yccc.org [mailto:yccc-admin@yccc.org] On Behalf Of
Dick
> Green
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 17:51
> To: CONTEST; Tower; YCCC
> Subject: [YCCC] 4-square vs 40-2CD
>
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m
antennas
> "side-by-side" and thought the results would be of interest. I've had
a
> 40m
> 4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five years.
> Yesterday,
> I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC portable guyed
> military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two antennas.
There
> was
> no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units louder than
the
> 4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB per S-unit,
that
> translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher would
improve
> these results.
>
> I say the opportunity for such a comparison is rare because most
people
> replace one antenna with another rather than keeping the old one and
> adding
> a new one. We often see claims like "this antenna is so much better
than
> my
> old antenna", when the comparison is actually made from memory of what
the
> old antenna was like. That's subjective at best. There's no substitute
for
> being able to switch back and forth under a wide variety of
conditions.
> It's
> also nice when the difference is definitive, as it was in my test.
>
> I've been wondering about the relative merits of the 4-square and beam
for
> some time. A couple of years ago, someone at a YCCC meeting complained
> that
> his 40m 4-square just couldn't keep up with the 2-el beams (can't
remember
> who it was.) I disputed the claim, feeling that my full-size 4-square
with
> 60 radials per element was reasonable close in performance to a 2-el
yagi.
> This assertion was partly based on having done reasonably well on 40m
in
> contests, partly based on denial (building a 4-square is a lot of
work!),
> but mostly based on having misunderstood the theoretical gain numbers
for
> a
> 4-square. I thought that a 4-square had about 5.5dB gain over a
dipole,
> roughly equivalent to a 40-2CD. In fact, the gain of a 4-square is
only
> 5.5dB over a single vertical (monopole.) Near as I can figure it, a
dipole
> over real ground is about 5.5dB louder than a monopole over average
> ground.
> That would make a 4-square about equivalent to a dipole. The 40-2CD
would
> therefore be at least 5.5dB louder than the 4-square, and probably
more if
> the 4-square efficiency isn't optimum. That explains the test results
> pretty
> well.
>
> Before you call me a doofus for making that mistake, go try to find
the
> numbers in the ARRL Antenna Handbook or in ON4UN's Low Band DXing --
the
> numbers are there but you have to do a lot of flipping around and
> converting
> of dBi to dBd, adjusting for ground, etc. A simple table comparing
various
> antenna designs under "typical" conditions would be nice, wouldn't it?
>
> I got really interested in the comparison when I noticed that as my
> contest
> scores got better by improving other antennas, my 40m QSOs always
lagged
> the
> competition. Eventually, it became clear that I was giving away too
much
> on
> 40m and that I must have been wrong about the 4-square. Luckily, the
used
> 40-2CD became available for a one-year loan just as I was pondering
what
> to
> do (the same fellow loaned me an extension kit for the AB-577/GRC that
can
> raise the height to 75 feet.)
>
> Of course, a 4-square has other advantages. If the radial system is
good,
> the radiation angle should be lower. I'll have to check that out on
some
> long-haul paths. More important, the F/B of the 4-square is much
better
> than
> the 40-2CD. The 4-square has an F/B of at least 20dB, while the 40-2CD
> seems
> to be about 5dB-15dB (hard to measure, but it's clearly not very
good.)
> This
> could be important when stateside QRM is bad. Also, the 4-square is
> significantly less noisy than the 40-2CD. Finally, the 4-square can
switch
> directions instantly. Still, all in all, I'll take the extra forward
gain!
> I
> should get a chance to check out the 40-2CD in action this weekend in
> IARU.
>
> I've always loved the "idea" of a 4-square (an antenna you can build
with
> no
> concrete and no help), and it really is an excellent compromise
antenna,
> but
> it just doesn't cut it for bands higher than 80m.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
> _______________________________________________
> YCCC Reflector
> yccc@yccc.org
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/yccc
>From g3xtt at lineone.net Mon Jul 8 22:20:25 2002
From: g3xtt@lineone.net (Donald Field)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Contest
Message-ID: <028101c226bd$07a62a80$f9d2403e@field>
IOTA Contest 2002 (1200 27 July to 1200 28 July)
Just a over a couple of weeks now until this year's IOTA Contest. And,
judging by the announcemenents in the bulletins and on the reflectors, there
will be a huge ammount of island activity; plenty of multipliers for the
serious contesters, plenty of IOTA counters for the IOTA enthusiasts. It
looks like being the best IOTA Contest yet!
Most of you will have seen the write-up and results from last year (if not,
they are of course on the RSGB HF Committee Web page - www.rsgbhfcc.org ).
The main rule changes this year are in the rules regarding island
DXpeditions, the introduction of a World multi-op category (previously, only
island stations could participate multi-op) and the introduction of a
100-watt option for all entrants.
When you submit your logs, do please ensure that the cover sheet makes clear
which section and category you are entering (especially, make clear whether
12- or 24-hour, whether 100-watt or high-power and whether CW, SSB or
multimode. Otherwise you will be automatically classified as 24-hour and/or
multimode and/or high-power). Advice on how to configure the most popular
logging programs for use in the contest has been posted on the Contests
Committee Web page (see above). There were particular problems last year
with entrants who had used CT. Under some configurations, the .LOG file did
not contain the received serial number (whereas the .ALL file did). Please
check that your log contains all the necessary information. Electronic logs
are preferred, ideally to the new address of iota.logs@rsgbhfcc.org Even if
you only make a few QSOs, please send a log - all logs are entered in the
master database for checking purposes. We hope to improve the collection of
logs this year and I am especially grateful to Trey N5KO for working with us
on this, as he has previously done for both CQ and ARRL.
73 Don Field G3XTT
IOTA Contest Manager
g3xtt@lineone.net (also iotacontest@rsgbhfcc.org )
>From dl3td at t-online.de Mon Jul 8 21:52:21 2002
From: dl3td@t-online.de (Dr. Lothar Wilke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DA0HQ
Message-ID: <000301c226b0$9feffd00$039256d9@wilke>
Here is an information abt DA0HQ 2002 in IARU HF World Championship.
Band Mode QTH Frequencies
160 CW DL1AWI 1832
160 SSB DF0HQ 1842
80 CW DF0SAX 3511
80 SSB DF0HQ 3640/3780
40 CW DF0HQ 7003/7032
40 SSB DL1AWI 7050/7080
20 CW DF3CB 14032
20 SSB DJ7AA 14220/14240
15 CW DL6RAI 21032
15 SSB DF0HQ 21250
10 CW DF0HQ 28032
10 SSB DL0MGB 28480
QSL:DL5AXX
See you in the Championship!
All the best to all WRTC Teams!
73
Lothar, DL3TD/DF0HQ (ex Y24UK/Y34K)
Dr. Lothar Wilke, DL3TD
Tel.: +49 361 5612120
E-mail: dxhf@darc.de
Internet: http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/
http://www.tu-ilmenau.de/~df0hq
PR: dl3td@db0erf.#thr.deu.eu
>From TOMK5RC at aol.com Mon Jul 8 18:20:12 2002
From: TOMK5RC@aol.com (TOMK5RC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Chrome Moly Masts
Message-ID: <8d.1ac6bc8f.2a5b5c0c@aol.com>
After 12 years of selling the highest quality mast material available to the
amateur community, The Mast Man, Tom, K5RC, has sold the Productivity
Resources Mast business to Force 12. The same great masts will be available
from the finest antenna manufacturer. Contact F12 at www.force12inc.com or at
805-227-1680. A formal press release will be forthcoming.
Tom, K5RC
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>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:08 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Japan to OI2HQ IARU 2002 propagation forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DB6@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Maybe someone can forward this to a Japanese
mailing list, too.
73,
Jukka, OH6LI
- - -
Japan - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Japan - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz, QSX as announced
Hoping to work some Japanese stations at 1830-1900 UTC
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
Expecting to work Japanese stations at
1800-1900 UTC on SSB, 1830-1900 UTC on CW
because CW station is more to West.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB
40m expected to be open 1700-2000 UTC,
Peak in signals at 1800-1930 UTC
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open from contest start, 12 UTC
on 13th July to 2230 UTC and opening again at 1100 UTC
on 14th July, being open until contest end, 12 UTC on
14th July.
Peak in signals expected on 13th July from 17 UTC to 20 UTC
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m expected to be open from contest start 12 UTC to 1430 UTC
on 13th July. Opening is possible later, at 19-2030 UTC.
On 14th 15 should open at 04 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC on 14th July.
Peak in signals expected 13th July from 14 to 15 UTC and
14th Jyly from 0730 UTC to 09 UTC
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
Expecting to work Japanese stations from 12 UTC to 14 UTC
on 13th July, possibility for later opening at 20-2030 UTC,
On 14th July band may open at 08 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC.
Signal path is polar, so odd openings may occur even though
the announcd more likely hours may be worse.
73,
Jukka
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:14 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eastern NA to OI2HQ IARU 2002 Propagation Forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DB7@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Eastern North America - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Eastern North America - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz, QSX as announced
Hoping to work some Eastern NA stations at 0130-02 UTC
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
Expecting to work Eastern NA stations at
0130-02 UTC on SSB, 0130-0230 UTC on CW
because CW station is more to West.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
40m expected to be open 0000-0330 UTC,
Peak in signals 0130-0230 UTC.
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open from 2200 UTC on July 13th to
09 UTC on July 14th.
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m expected to be open from contest start 12 UTC on
July 13th to 1930 UTC.
Opening is possible later, even after 23 UTC.
On July 14th 15m opens at 1030 UTC and is open to
contest end, 12 UTC July 14th.
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
Expecting to work Eastern NA stations from contest start,
July 13th, 12 UTC to 19 UTC if Aurora is vague enough.
On July 13th, possibility for the opening to continue beyond 2200 UTC.
On July 14th band should open at 11 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC.
Signal path is polar, so odd openings may occur even though
the announcd more likely hours may be worse.
73,
Jukka
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:18 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Europe - OI2HQ IARU 2002 Propagation forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DB8@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Europe - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Europe - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz
160 should open at 1630UTC and close 0530 UTC.
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB
80m is open 13th July 1500 UTC to 14th July 0630 UTC.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB,
40m opens 13th July 14 UTC and closes 0730 UTC on 14th July.
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open full 24 hours.
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m should be open from contest start 12 UTC on
13th July to 22 UTC.
On 14th July 15m should open at 03 UTC and stay
open to contest end, 12 UTC July 14th.
If direct propagation is bad, OI2HQ encourages the European
stations to beam to NA or JA directions to access backscatter
propagation on 15.
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
10m is open from contest start, July 13th 12 UTC to 20 UTC.
On July 14th band should open at 0330 UTC and stay open to
contest end, 12 UTC.
If direct propagation is bad, OI2HQ encourages the European
stations to beam to NA or JA directions to access backscatter
propagation on 10.
73,
Jukka
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:29 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Western North America - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation
forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DBA@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Western North America - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Mid North America - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz, QSX as announced
No propagation expected
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
No propagation expected.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
40m may be possible for bigger stations to log OI2HQ
between 04 to 0430 UTC.
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open from 0030 UTC on July 13th to
0830 UTC on July 14th.
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m may be open from contest start 12 UTC on
July 13th to 1930 UTC if Aurora is vague enough.
Opening is likely later, after 23 UTC.
On July 14th 15m may open at 1130 UTC and is open to
contest end, 12 UTC July 14th.
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
Hoping to work Western NA stations from July 13th, 13 UTC
to 1730 UTC if Aurora is vague enough.
On July 14th band may open at 1130 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC.
Signal path is polar, so odd openings may occur even though
the announcd more likely hours may be worse.
A polar opening may be possible during OI2HQ nighttime,
after 23 UTC on July 13th, possibility exists until 02 UTC July 14th.
73,
Jukka
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:34 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Mid North America - OI2HQ IARU 2002 Propagation Forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DBB@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Mid North America - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Mid North America - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz, QSX as announced
No conditions expected
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
Expecting to work some Mid NA stations at
02-0230 UTC.
Signals will be weak if there is any propagation.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
40m expected to be open 02-03 UTC for big stations.
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open from 2300 UTC on July 13th to
0830 UTC on July 14th.
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m expected to be open from contest start 12 UTC on
July 13th to 1930 UTC.
Opening is possible later, even after 23 UTC.
On July 14th 15m opens at 1030 UTC and is open to
contest end, 12 UTC July 14th.
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
Expecting to work Mid NA stations from contest start,
July 13th, 12 UTC to 1730 UTC if Aurora is vague enough.
On July 14th band may open at 1130 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC.
Signal path is polar, so odd openings may occur even though
the announcd more likely hours may be worse.
73,
Jukka
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Jul 8 19:36:29 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [Towertalk] 4-square vs 40-2CD
References: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <025401c226cf$e78f2900$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Dick,
More is better in one facet of life I participate in - antennas!
I never cease to be amazed at how antennas HEAR differently...as such
current efforts at my station are to increase diversity of antennas - so to
enhance RECEIVING...
If you can keep both antennas I would recommend it...you may find that while
the 4 square always comes in second as far as RST rx from other stations it
may hear better at certain times of day and at certain combinations of
conditions....
I love the 40-2CD as anyone who has ever heard me talk about mine has been
bored to tears with, but I am also working on some phased verticals for 40
now...
Granted I am no doubt headed into the oh sh&* too many things to choose from
syndrome but all it takes is a weekend of bouncing around to reaffirm my
belief that more IS better...as they say in sport
On any given weekend!
GL
Jim, K4OJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Green" <dick.green@valley.net>
To: "CONTEST" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; "Tower"
<towertalk@contesting.com>; "YCCC" <yccc@yccc.org>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:51 PM
Subject: [Towertalk] 4-square vs 40-2CD
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m antennas
> "side-by-side" and thought the results would be of interest. I've had a
40m
> 4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five years.
Yesterday,
> I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC portable guyed
> military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two antennas. There
was
> no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units louder than the
> 4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB per S-unit, that
> translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher would improve
> these results.
>
> I say the opportunity for such a comparison is rare because most people
> replace one antenna with another rather than keeping the old one and
adding
> a new one. We often see claims like "this antenna is so much better than
my
> old antenna", when the comparison is actually made from memory of what the
> old antenna was like. That's subjective at best. There's no substitute for
> being able to switch back and forth under a wide variety of conditions.
It's
> also nice when the difference is definitive, as it was in my test.
>
> I've been wondering about the relative merits of the 4-square and beam for
> some time. A couple of years ago, someone at a YCCC meeting complained
that
> his 40m 4-square just couldn't keep up with the 2-el beams (can't remember
> who it was.) I disputed the claim, feeling that my full-size 4-square with
> 60 radials per element was reasonable close in performance to a 2-el yagi.
> This assertion was partly based on having done reasonably well on 40m in
> contests, partly based on denial (building a 4-square is a lot of work!),
> but mostly based on having misunderstood the theoretical gain numbers for
a
> 4-square. I thought that a 4-square had about 5.5dB gain over a dipole,
> roughly equivalent to a 40-2CD. In fact, the gain of a 4-square is only
> 5.5dB over a single vertical (monopole.) Near as I can figure it, a dipole
> over real ground is about 5.5dB louder than a monopole over average
ground.
> That would make a 4-square about equivalent to a dipole. The 40-2CD would
> therefore be at least 5.5dB louder than the 4-square, and probably more if
> the 4-square efficiency isn't optimum. That explains the test results
pretty
> well.
>
> Before you call me a doofus for making that mistake, go try to find the
> numbers in the ARRL Antenna Handbook or in ON4UN's Low Band DXing -- the
> numbers are there but you have to do a lot of flipping around and
converting
> of dBi to dBd, adjusting for ground, etc. A simple table comparing various
> antenna designs under "typical" conditions would be nice, wouldn't it?
>
> I got really interested in the comparison when I noticed that as my
contest
> scores got better by improving other antennas, my 40m QSOs always lagged
the
> competition. Eventually, it became clear that I was giving away too much
on
> 40m and that I must have been wrong about the 4-square. Luckily, the used
> 40-2CD became available for a one-year loan just as I was pondering what
to
> do (the same fellow loaned me an extension kit for the AB-577/GRC that can
> raise the height to 75 feet.)
>
> Of course, a 4-square has other advantages. If the radial system is good,
> the radiation angle should be lower. I'll have to check that out on some
> long-haul paths. More important, the F/B of the 4-square is much better
than
> the 40-2CD. The 4-square has an F/B of at least 20dB, while the 40-2CD
seems
> to be about 5dB-15dB (hard to measure, but it's clearly not very good.)
This
> could be important when stateside QRM is bad. Also, the 4-square is
> significantly less noisy than the 40-2CD. Finally, the 4-square can switch
> directions instantly. Still, all in all, I'll take the extra forward gain!
I
> should get a chance to check out the 40-2CD in action this weekend in
IARU.
>
> I've always loved the "idea" of a 4-square (an antenna you can build with
no
> concrete and no help), and it really is an excellent compromise antenna,
but
> it just doesn't cut it for bands higher than 80m.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
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>From paul at ei5di.com Tue Jul 9 01:52:50 2002
From: paul@ei5di.com (Paul O'Kane)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Contest - Logging Software
References: <028101c226bd$07a62a80$f9d2403e@field>
Message-ID: <001501c226da$ae26ce60$e5a5fea9@dell>
SDI (SD for IOTA) is the only contest logger dedicated to the IOTA
Contest, and has been since the contest started in 1993. As such,
it has features specific to this event not found on any other
contest logger.
SDI V9.91 is intended for single-op unassisted entries and is
FreeWare. SDICHECK, the post-contest program distributed with
SDI, has been updated to include a World Multi-Op entry category
on the Summary Sheet.
SDI is a DOS program, but it runs in all versions of Windows -
please review the README.1ST file for more information.
SDI may be downloaded from http://www.ei5di.com/sd/sdi991.zip (327
kb).
73,
Paul EI5DI
http://www.ei5di.com
>From w8aef at worldnet.att.net Mon Jul 8 22:48:59 2002
From: w8aef@worldnet.att.net (Paul Playford)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
References: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <000201c226ea$5d32ac80$38f4fea9@paulplay>
Great report Dick. I am of the same opinion, the only way to compare
antennas is to be able to switch between them.
At one time I had a Hygain antenna that consisted of two linearly loaded
elements on 40 and 3 full size elements on 20. It's been a long time but
I think it may have been a 402BA or something like that. My observations
were similar to yours on both gain and f/b on 40 but a real performer on 20.
So poor on 40 that I gave it away when I obtained my first 204BA.
An observation I made a couple of years ago is that yagi height is very
important, just like the books say but we never believe (big antennas, high
in the sky, work better than little antennas down low). It was during
Sweepstakes that I noticed my tribander at 30 feet was outperforming my
monoband yagi's at 70-78-86 feet. And in excess of 10 dB. I even checked
them with an analyzer! As an afterthought I cranked the tower down and when
all the antennas were at about the same height they performed equally well.
I have concluded that on 20-15-10 if you want to talk to someone less that
2500 miles away about 30 feet heighth works best, and if further than 2500
miles then the higher antennas work best.
So I will be anxiously watching for your report from the IARU.
My 4 squares have elevated radials and I have a feeling that they are
between a 2 element and a 3 element yagi.
Your IARU report may be the impetus I need to put my other 72 foot tower up
with a 40 meter yagi on it.
de Paul, W8AEF
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Green" <dick.green@valley.net>
To: "CONTEST" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; "Tower"
<towertalk@contesting.com>; "YCCC" <yccc@yccc.org>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:51 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m antennas
>From richard at karlquist.com Mon Jul 8 21:01:57 2002
From: richard@karlquist.com (Richard Karlquist)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [Towertalk] 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <MGEKKFGEAIKJOOPJPGIKAEPHCJAA.richard@karlquist.com>
I'll believe your test, but a better
test is a simple dipole against a simple
vertical. That way, implementation
problems of the 4-square and Yagi don't
confuse the results.
This must vary with location. At my QTH,
before building my 7 element vertical
array, I A/B'ed a simple vertical against
a 90 foot high inverted vee. Within the
resolution I could get switching back
and forth, these were interchangeable for
me. Maybe the dipole really is 2 dB better,
and I just can't measure to that resolution.
I haven't tried it, but wouldn't be surprised
if a dipole did start to get a substantial
advantage at a really high height, like 140+
feet.
>From n5ia at zia-connection.com Mon Jul 8 21:11:55 2002
From: n5ia@zia-connection.com (Milt Jensen at N5IA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
References: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <003301c226f6$65b58380$6427140a@2gHz.Screamer.aznex.net>
Keep 'em both, Dick. There are never enough antennas! You will find the
4-Square extremely advantageous in the heat of battle and it will perform
better than the 2 element directional about 30% of the time.
The 4-Square we used at XZ0A in January, 2000 was elevated with 12 radials
on each element and the performance was tremendous. Same for the 80 Meter
4-Square and the single element 160 Meter Groundplane.
Good luck with your endeavors.
Milt, N5IA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Green" <dick.green@valley.net>
To: "CONTEST" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; "Tower"
<towertalk@contesting.com>; "YCCC" <yccc@yccc.org>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m antennas
> "side-by-side" and thought the results would be of interest. I've had a
40m
> 4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five years.
Yesterday,
> I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC portable guyed
> military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two antennas. There
was
> no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units louder than the
> 4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB per S-unit, that
> translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher would improve
> these results.
>
> I say the opportunity for such a comparison is rare because most people
> replace one antenna with another rather than keeping the old one and
adding
> a new one. We often see claims like "this antenna is so much better than
my
> old antenna", when the comparison is actually made from memory of what the
> old antenna was like. That's subjective at best. There's no substitute for
> being able to switch back and forth under a wide variety of conditions.
It's
> also nice when the difference is definitive, as it was in my test.
>
> I've been wondering about the relative merits of the 4-square and beam for
> some time. A couple of years ago, someone at a YCCC meeting complained
that
> his 40m 4-square just couldn't keep up with the 2-el beams (can't remember
> who it was.) I disputed the claim, feeling that my full-size 4-square with
> 60 radials per element was reasonable close in performance to a 2-el yagi.
> This assertion was partly based on having done reasonably well on 40m in
> contests, partly based on denial (building a 4-square is a lot of work!),
> but mostly based on having misunderstood the theoretical gain numbers for
a
> 4-square. I thought that a 4-square had about 5.5dB gain over a dipole,
> roughly equivalent to a 40-2CD. In fact, the gain of a 4-square is only
> 5.5dB over a single vertical (monopole.) Near as I can figure it, a dipole
> over real ground is about 5.5dB louder than a monopole over average
ground.
> That would make a 4-square about equivalent to a dipole. The 40-2CD would
> therefore be at least 5.5dB louder than the 4-square, and probably more if
> the 4-square efficiency isn't optimum. That explains the test results
pretty
> well.
>
> Before you call me a doofus for making that mistake, go try to find the
> numbers in the ARRL Antenna Handbook or in ON4UN's Low Band DXing -- the
> numbers are there but you have to do a lot of flipping around and
converting
> of dBi to dBd, adjusting for ground, etc. A simple table comparing various
> antenna designs under "typical" conditions would be nice, wouldn't it?
>
> I got really interested in the comparison when I noticed that as my
contest
> scores got better by improving other antennas, my 40m QSOs always lagged
the
> competition. Eventually, it became clear that I was giving away too much
on
> 40m and that I must have been wrong about the 4-square. Luckily, the used
> 40-2CD became available for a one-year loan just as I was pondering what
to
> do (the same fellow loaned me an extension kit for the AB-577/GRC that can
> raise the height to 75 feet.)
>
> Of course, a 4-square has other advantages. If the radial system is good,
> the radiation angle should be lower. I'll have to check that out on some
> long-haul paths. More important, the F/B of the 4-square is much better
than
> the 40-2CD. The 4-square has an F/B of at least 20dB, while the 40-2CD
seems
> to be about 5dB-15dB (hard to measure, but it's clearly not very good.)
This
> could be important when stateside QRM is bad. Also, the 4-square is
> significantly less noisy than the 40-2CD. Finally, the 4-square can switch
> directions instantly. Still, all in all, I'll take the extra forward gain!
I
> should get a chance to check out the 40-2CD in action this weekend in
IARU.
>
> I've always loved the "idea" of a 4-square (an antenna you can build with
no
> concrete and no help), and it really is an excellent compromise antenna,
but
> it just doesn't cut it for bands higher than 80m.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
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>From ve3pn at igs.net Tue Jul 9 06:49:56 2002
From: ve3pn@igs.net (Peter Barron)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #244 - 11 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200207090114.g691Es5r013130@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000101c2270c$75041d90$98f4a8c0@HOMEOFFICE>
Hi Jamie
If you need Kenwood connector pin outs a good location is at
http://ftp.kenwood.net/Amateur/Connectors/?plain
Peter Barron
Ve3pn@igs.net
From: Jaime Robles <jaime@robles.nu>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Home made Digital Voice Keyer and a Kenwood
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Hello all!
I have just finished a DVK (the K6XX one) but it does not work.
Well, i am not a good builder but i have built some kits and circuits
before... maybe i have made a mistake.
The main problem for me is that i have not used a DVK before so i don't know
about how it works...
Could anybody tell me about the connections to a kenwood rig, please? (TS-50
but i think the others have the same pinout).
On the other hand... if you know another DVK circuit and you can tell me
about
the URL i will thank you.
Many thanks.
73.
- --
Un saludo,
Jaime Robles, EA4TV
jaime@robles.nu
Visita http://www.redlibre.net - La Red Libre de todos!
http://smsdx.net - El DXCluster en tu movil!
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>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Tue Jul 9 12:44:25 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (Timo)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OJ Calls Checklist for WRTC2002
Message-ID: <00a901c22724$d7249500$a6c5f83e@tklimoff>
WRTC2002 OJ calls check list is available in Excel (XLS)-format:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/ojcalls.xls
Roland, DK3GI has made this list in PDF-format available in BCC homepage:
http://www.bavarian-contest-club.de/contest/OJ_Checkliste.pdf
73, Timo OH1NOA
>From nt5c at texas.net Tue Jul 9 08:15:03 2002
From: nt5c@texas.net (John Warren)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <000201c226ea$5d32ac80$38f4fea9@paulplay>
References: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
<000201c226ea$5d32ac80$38f4fea9@paulplay>
Message-ID: <p04330108b9508c0b51dd@EIM-Mac-1.0.7>
Paul W8AEF wrote:
>My 4 squares have elevated radials and I have a feeling that they are
>between a 2 element and a 3 element yagi.
In theory, a 4-square is sort of equivalent to a vertically polarized
3-el Yagi. The two corner verticals driven in parallel are a
"distributed" driven element. The other two verticals are a director
and reflector respectively. Obviously that's subject to all the usual
disclaimers about how well the 4-square is made, especially how good
the "ground" is under each element.
Most articles I've read agree with Paul. The end result of a well
implemented 4-square seems usually to be just a bit better for DX
than a 2-el Yagi. So on 40M I'll stick with my much-loved 40-2CD, but
on 80/160....!!
John, NT5C.
>From k7qq at netzero.net Tue Jul 9 15:09:59 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5
References: <143.110c2e1f.2a58cece@aol.com>
<5.1.1.2.2.20020707102918.00ba09d8@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <000901c22752$86d06100$86272a42@k7qq>
W1AW meets all the requirements. /5 for those old enuf to rember when
there was a requirement.
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob, N5RP" <N5RP@pdq.net>
To: "TDXS Reflector" <tdxs-list@moonbounce.n5iq.org>;
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 15:40
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5
> The WRTC thing coming up next weekend .......
>
> The prizes that are mentioned for early log turn in and for working all of
> the OJ stations ..........
> ........... What, exactly, are these prizes ?
> I'm drooling to know.
>
> Also,
> The W1AW/5 stations.......
> Should they identify themselves as W5/W1AW, W1AW/W5, or is, in fact,
W1AW/5
> acceptable?
>
> What meets the properly defined procedural configuration for station
> identification?
>
> If I work them using QRP, can I sign as N5RP/QRP ??
> Bob Perring
> ...........................................
> Amateur Radio Station N5RP
> mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
> N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 9 10:46:50 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 09Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207091646.g69GkoV02066@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 09Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please vist -
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
VE5RI 527 1214 41 40 24 818,424
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
K4BAI 181 22 0 0 27,632 SECC
K1GU 118 0 28 0 4 24,920 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE5SF 416 562 39 39 18 579,696
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VA6RA 1 180 1 24 39,050
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VA3WN 142 50 13 10 6 26,542
W0ETT 100 2 25 1 7 21,632 Grand Mesa
W1TO 67 12 15 5 12,680 YCCC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
N4WSM 0 29 0 13 4,550 TCG
W4NZ 32 3 9 2 3,300
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 9 10:49:06 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RSGB Jubilee - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207091649.g69Gn6x02078@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RSGB Jubilee - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 6, 2002
E-mail logs to: hf.contests@rsgb.org.uk
Mail logs to:
RSGB HF Contests Committee
c/o SV Knowles, G3UFY
77 Bensham Manor Road
Thornton, Heath
Surrey CR7 7AF
UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SCW HP
N2ED 78 12 2 3,900 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SMixed HP
GQ6YB 2209 83 24 916,735 Bristol CG
MQ5ZAP 2171 62 24 673,010
G4FAL 999 32 159,840
XM4VV 892 33 21 146,850
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SSSB LP
CQ1CV(@CS6ARP) 567 55 12 155,925 Radio Clube Costa Ve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)CW HP
GQ3TXF(G3TXF) 1405 62 20 429,970
K6III 67 19 8 100 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)Mixed HP
LY4AA(@LY7A) 597 80 20 238,800
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 300 23 3 33,925
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)Mixed LP
GQ4IIY(G4IIY) 616 22 9 67,760
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)SSB HP
VE7AVV 102 17 8 1,734 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOCW HP
9H1ZA 1885 75 706,875
GQ4ZVJ(G4ZVJ) 1202 65 24 390,650
G3LET 1190 63 23 374,850 HARC
GW3NJW 1152 51 21 293,760
GM4SID 848 45 20 190,800
N4BP 316 51 14 80,580 FCG
GQ5LP(G5LP) 450 23 5 51,750 Mid Beds Contest Ass
K2SX 120 27 16,200 YCCC
SP5WA 124 21 22 13,020
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOCW LP
XM3IAY(VE3IAY) 168 25 21,000
RW3VZ 133 26 17,290
HB9ARF 150 20 15,000
AB2E 66 17 4 5,610 FRC
VE9DX 75 12 1 4,500
VA3XRZ 26 6 2 780
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOMixed HP
XM3EJ(VE3EJ) 1771 91 24 801,225
TI5/N0KE(@TI5KD) 225 44 10 49,500 Grand Mesa
SP9W(SP9HWN) 245 33 40,425
W4SAA 138 34 23,430 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOMixed LP
VE3MQW 224 34 38,080
ZC40DW(G0DEZ) 558 13 7 36,270 Eastern Sovereign Ba
LY2XW 224 30 33,600
K4OGG 143 20 13,800
GQ0DVJ(G0DVJ) 180 7 5 6,300
VO1TA(VO1WET) 386 8 6 1,930
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB HP
GS2MP(GM3WOJ) 1392 62 20 431,520 North of Scotland CG
GW0GEI 1044 48 15 250,560 Contest Cymru
XM3KZ(VE3KZ) 1021 42 214,200
GQ4BLE(GW4BLE) 711 39 138,645 Contest Cambria
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB LP
ZC40BS(G4KIV) 376 22 6 41,360
MQ5RIC(M5RIC) 409 8 16,360
9M2RPN(VK2CZ) 79 7 3 2,660
SV1XV 32 6 3 960
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB QRP
N3GXY 23 4 1 460
Operators:
CQ1CV CT1ERK,CT1ETE
GQ6YB G0HFX,G0WKW,G3TKF,G3XSV,G4FKA,G7ORR,M0AXF/EI3JE,
M0XXX
MQ5ZAP 5B4WN,M0TTT,M5ZAP
XM4VV VE4VV,VE4XT
>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Tue Jul 9 23:09:26 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Realtime scoreboard
Message-ID: <20020709190926.YAKP4192.fep02-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.108]>
World Top Contesters air new OJ prefixes from Helsinki, Finland, Saturday 13th
at 12:00 UTC in the World Radiosport Team Championship 2002 ( WRTC2002 )
http://www.wrtc2002.org
Look for an advanced web based scoreboard live at:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/realtime.htm
(available 12:00 UTC 13.7.02 - 12:00 UTC 14.7.02).
Submit your Early Bird log in 6-hours from the end of the contest to qualify
for attractive prices:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm
WRTC2002 Organization
>From N5RP at pdq.net Tue Jul 9 20:35:46 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AEA CK-2 Keyers for sale
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020709193245.00b433d0@pop.pdq.net>
I have two of them.
Both in very good physical condition and all functions operate.
On one of them the #3 push button "sometimes" is hard to engage to make
contact.
Power cubes and manual for each.
Figure they are better served to go to a contest station.
$50.00 each, shipping costs to the account of the buyer.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From k8cc at comcast.net Tue Jul 9 22:45:00 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020709212132.009bc940@mail.comcast.net>
Dick,
Thanks for sharing your observations on your 40M four-square vs. a
40-2CD. My only caveat is to keep in mind that the comparison you make
during the summer will not always jibe with the same comparison in
winter. Radiation angles tend to be higher in the summer which would favor
the low yagi over the verticals. Your observation about the gain of a
four-square being 6 dB *over a vertical* which makes it about even with a
dipole over ground is absolutely correct. However, its not the entire story.
We've been using a wire four-square on 80M here at K8CC since 1994. We've
had just about every kind of 80M DX antenna here at this location: slopers,
delta loops, bobtails, half-squares, a 3L wire yagi and even a beautiful
N4ZC-style log periodic with the center at 110' and the ends at 90'. It's
my opinion (and shared by my guest operators) that none of these antennas
match the four-square, at least on 80M when you're limited to 120' supports.
That is not to say that the others were bad antennas. The simple little
half-square made UN2L's "loud LP 80M signals" list one year. The wire yagi
and N4ZC log periodic made lots of gain and were great pileup
crashers. But until we put up the four-square we couldn't hear down to the
weak layer of EU necessary to be able to run successfully on CW from
W8. Once we put up the four-square, the results were immediately noticable
on our 80M line score, and our 80M op was a lot happier too.
Again, I agree with your observation that verticals (and hence,
four-squares) don't radiate as much signal as a dipole over ground. I've
often found, particularly on 75 SSB that with the four-square we can hear
more DX stations than we can work. With northern Europeans particularly,
I'll call and call a perfectly copiable SM or OH and not even get a QRZ?
from them. My gut says if I could run about four or five KW output the
transmit signal from the four-square would match the ability to
receive. However, my conscience won't let me do that...
A couple of years ago K3LR (who has a great 80M four-square made from
Hy-Towers) decided to try some big horizontal antennas like a W2PV 2L quad
and a 3L linear-loaded yagi. Perhaps he'd like to share his observations
here on the reflector, but neither antenna replaced his four-square.
Finally, the answer for 80M might be different than for 40M...
73,
Dave/K8CC
>From harry at oh6yf.com Wed Jul 10 06:31:13 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC guests are already in Finland! Photos...
References: <200207091646.g69GkoV02066@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <000e01c227b9$dcc20110$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hi!
I have put some more photos to my WRTC photo gallery at:
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
73 de Harry OH6YF
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
>From jjreisert at alum.mit.edu Wed Jul 10 08:34:58 2002
From: jjreisert@alum.mit.edu (Jim Reisert AD1C)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Short 'Power Naps' Found Best Performance Booster
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020710073448.0171e378@mail.attbi.com>
Mon Jul 8, 2:46 PM ET
By Nic Rowan
ADELAIDE, Australia (Reuters Health) - A 10-minute nap is better than a
half-hour snooze at improving work performance, according to new Australian
sleep research.
Associate Professor Leon Lack and postgraduate student Amber Tietzel
studied the effect of varying nap lengths in the School of Psychology Sleep
Laboratory at Flinders University in Adelaide. They conclude that 10
minutes is the most effective nap length for improving performance for up
to 3 hours afterward.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020708/hl_nm/sleep_work_dc_1
--
Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863
USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
>From marco.spalluzzi at orobiacom.it Wed Jul 10 16:45:14 2002
From: marco.spalluzzi@orobiacom.it (Marco Spalluzzi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AC noise
Message-ID: <001101c22818$05940cb0$6ac8a8c0@MARCOSPALLUZZI>
Hi guys, I've got a problem, probably related to ground connections.
When I tx and my amp switches on tx, I hear a little ac noise in the
headphones, but it's not only there, it really goes out.
An US guy said it's little, but you can hear it if one listen carefully.
It's not a gnd problem of the headphones (Heil HC-4), since it's the same
with a desk microphone.
If the amp is on, but I disconnect the relay switch (so it doesn't switch to
tx), the noise disappears.
I replace the relay cable with another one (2 cables + shield), with one
cable connected to the cable shield.
Grounding this or not, nothing changes.
I grounded it through the gnd connector on the back panel of the 775.
Grounding it to the amp, or any other device, could change something? I
think no, ground is ground for everyone.
I made some "disconnect and try" tests, first with unused antennas (it's not
an rf problem, and in fact it didn't help), then with some computer cables,
pc ground, rotator cable, power supply ac cable, ... but I didn't solve it.
Should I connect "signal gnd" to "shield gnd" on each cable?
Or, if connected together, should I separate them?
I really don't know what else disconnect.
Could it be due by an excessive mic gain or compressor gain, or both?
Pse answers here on the reflector, or private to ik2xsl@amsat.org
Thanks in advance, bye Marco - IK2XSL.
>From tony.kaz at verizon.net Wed Jul 10 13:09:14 2002
From: tony.kaz@verizon.net (N2TK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AC noise
In-Reply-To: <001101c22818$05940cb0$6ac8a8c0@MARCOSPALLUZZI>
Message-ID: <000601c2282c$23546240$6401a8c0@tony>
I had some ac reported on my signal on a dxpedition. It didn't happen on all
bands. If I removed the MFJ voice keyer it went away. I isolated the mike
ground from the ac and chassis ground to solve the problem.
Tony
N2TK
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Marco Spalluzzi
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 09:45
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AC noise
Hi guys, I've got a problem, probably related to ground connections.
When I tx and my amp switches on tx, I hear a little ac noise in the
headphones, but it's not only there, it really goes out.
An US guy said it's little, but you can hear it if one listen carefully.
It's not a gnd problem of the headphones (Heil HC-4), since it's the same
with a desk microphone.
If the amp is on, but I disconnect the relay switch (so it doesn't switch to
tx), the noise disappears.
I replace the relay cable with another one (2 cables + shield), with one
cable connected to the cable shield.
Grounding this or not, nothing changes.
I grounded it through the gnd connector on the back panel of the 775.
Grounding it to the amp, or any other device, could change something? I
think no, ground is ground for everyone.
I made some "disconnect and try" tests, first with unused antennas (it's not
an rf problem, and in fact it didn't help), then with some computer cables,
pc ground, rotator cable, power supply ac cable, ... but I didn't solve it.
Should I connect "signal gnd" to "shield gnd" on each cable?
Or, if connected together, should I separate them?
I really don't know what else disconnect.
Could it be due by an excessive mic gain or compressor gain, or both?
Pse answers here on the reflector, or private to ik2xsl@amsat.org
Thanks in advance, bye Marco - IK2XSL.
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Thu Jul 11 18:08:09 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] On the Bus with WRTC - #1 - 10 July 2002
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020711210809.011d9074@pop.vnet.net>
This is amazing! The number of people and calls and faces showing up
from all over the world -
some familiar from the log and some familiar from face-to-face meetings
past - boggles the
mind. It's like Saturday at 0000Z in the flesh.
My wife Nancy and I arrived yesterday on the 9th, shuttled flawlessly to
the WRTC hotel
headquarters by the efficient OH committee members led by Marje OH1RX.
There is nothing more
welcome after a long flight to a new land than a smiling face holding a
sign with 'WRTC' on it.
We had hardly set foot to ground before being greeted by OH2BH and
company. A milling company
of previous arrivals milled about the lobby and patio of the Radisson
SAS Espoo - WRTC nerve
center for the next week.
The big attraction on opening day is, of course, the beer tent where you
are suddenly
surrounded by a WAZ of friends. There are stories to tell,
congratulations to be made, and
pictures to be taken. Already present was Team Africa, Chris ZS6EZ and
Bernie ZS4TX, holding
their own with a running commentary of humourous observations.
Contesters from Zone 38 need a
certain amount of humor to keep going in the sport.
Also present are the "separated at birth" twins Trey N5KO and Juan
Carlos TG9AJR. If you've
never met this pair, you'd be amazed to learn that they are not
brothers. Trey, of course, is
well known from his many contest wins and the big presence from HC8N and
other Zone 10 calls.
A particularly loquacious trio is Wayne N7NG, Ohms PY5EG, and Walter
DL6QT. Here in a few
square feet is a troika of many years of contesting experiences and
adventures. You can ask
these guys anything - as in anything - and you will learn something
interesting.
The long, long, extra long daylight at 62N kept anyone from feeling the
late hours after their
long journeys. Suddenly, even though the sky said "mid-evening", our
watches said "1 AM" and
the jet lag started making itself felt. It was time to try out our
sleep masks and grab a few
winks.
The 10th found us working down the pileups at the breakfast buffet and
ready for the first of
our preparatory meetings. Appropriately for hams, this meeting was held
in the Dipoli
building. All of the competitors and referees were treated to an
overview of the competition
organization and rules, the basics of our stations, and a new element -
the WRTC Real-Time
Scoreboard.
The scoreboard is an idea that was finally realizable after the three
previous WRTC
competitions. Every hour, the referees will report the team's score to
a central server, using
Finland's legendary GSM mobile phone system. Nokia is a major sponsor
of WRTC-2002 and has
contibuted a number of interesting technologies to make the event both a
success and up-to-date
with the latest in communications.
The score information from each team will be posted to a Web page (see
www.wrtc2002.org for the
link to the page) for people around the world to watch. You will be
able to see simultaneously
the score and ranking of each team starting one hour after the start of
the competition at
1200Z on Saturday.
By the photographs you can see how seriously all of the participants are
taking WRTC and how
much work that the OH committee has done to make the competition a
success. After 90 minutes
of explanation about the competition, OH5JQ presented a fine video about
Finland and Finns.
They're very proud of their country and culture.
After lunch, we're all piled on buses, where I'm writing this. Headed
for Himos and SRAL (the
Finnish national radio society) Summer Camp, we're enjoying a cold soda
pop and the scenery as
we drive north from Helsinki through Lahti and the lake country.
Martti, OH2BH, has done a
good job of explaining the Finnish psyche - which has a lot to do with
three months of little
sun in the winter.
As a humorous interlude, a songbook of parodies of Beatle's song were
prepared by several of us
before WRTC. On the way to Lahti, we had a sing-along of songs like
"Martti Laine" (to the tune
of "Penny Lane") and "When I'm 64" rewritten by K1DG in honor of Jim
Neiger, N6TJ, who is
celebrating his 63rd birthday during the festivities.
All in good fun, of course. So far, there has been a little bit of ham
radio and a lot of
meeting and greeting. Tomorrow things begin to get a little more
serious with training of
referees and detailed review of rules by the competitors. On Friday, we
draw the referee
assignments and pick our secret callsigns - to be opened only minutes
before the competition.
Very quickly, it will be time to begin - as the hours pass, there is a
little more tension and
sharpness in the contester's demeanor. These are, after all, the very
best competitors in the
world getting ready for one of the best contests.
So for today - a toast from the bus on the way to Himos...Kiipis!
(Cheers!)
73, Ward N0AX/OH
>From k4ro at k4ro.net Thu Jul 11 23:39:58 2002
From: k4ro@k4ro.net (K4RO Kirk Pickering)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] On the Bus with WRTC - #1 - 10 July 2002
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020711210809.011d9074@pop.vnet.net>; from
btippett@alum.mit.edu on Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 05:08:09PM -0400
References: <1.5.4.32.20020711210809.011d9074@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <20020711223958.E20896@darkstar.k4ro.net>
Fabulous report from the front. How I wish I was there with you
all. Best of luck to all of the competitors. See you ops on the
air this weekend. 73 from Tennessee. (Thunderstorm-ridden zone 8)
-Kirk K4RO
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 05:08:09PM -0400, W4ZV Bill Tippett wrote:
> This is amazing! The number of people and calls and faces showing up
> from all over the world...
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 12 07:59:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 12Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207121359.g6CDxCB04884@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 12Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
VE5RI 527 1214 41 40 24 818,424
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
VE7AVV 0 809 0 40 15 198,960 BCDX Club
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
K4BAI 181 22 0 0 27,632 SECC
K1GU 118 0 28 0 4 24,920 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE5SF 416 562 39 39 18 579,696
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VA6RA 1 180 1 24 39,050
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VA3WN 142 50 13 10 6 26,542
W0ETT 100 2 25 1 7 21,632 Grand Mesa
W1TO 67 12 15 5 12,680 YCCC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
N4WSM 0 29 0 13 4,550 TCG
W4NZ 32 3 9 2 3,300
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
VE3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 56 41 6 9 12 9,870
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 12 08:00:45 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL June VHF - Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207121400.g6CE0jq04898@localhost.localdomain>
2002 ARRL June VHF - Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 10, 2002
E-mail logs to: JuneVHF@arrl.org
Mail logs to:
June VHF
ARRL
225 Main St.
Newington, CT 06111
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Limited Multi-Op HP
W3SO 997 264 332,904 PVRC
K8CC 663 211 29 169,644 MRRC
NI9E(@N9FH) 692 180 28 124,560 Badger Contesters
K5TR 426 156 78,000
VE6JW 292 120 30 36,360 Aurora VHF Society
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Limited Multi-Op LP
KB1DFB(@KB1H) 502 108 63,936 Eastern Connecticut
VE2ZP 141 67 12 12,194 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
N0UK 623 274 236,188 Northern Lights Radi
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Rover LP
K4EFD 54 38 15 5,358
K7VE/R 61 35 2,660
KI5DR/R 40 20 14 1,300 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op HP
K1TEO 1053 293 28 481,339
K3DNE 669 217 235,445
WB9Z 685 262 30 223,486
W2FU 477 230 23 206,540 Rochester VHF Group
K7RAT(N6TR) 452 153 25 80,325 Boring Amateur Radio
K5AM 364 165 62,205
K3ZO 436 125 22 54,500 PVRC
VE5UF 271 108 20 29,268
N5RZ 197 91 21 17,927
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op LP
N9DG 323 142 59,498 Badger Contesters
N6MU(@N6NB) 488 82 27 47,724 SCCC
W5SXD 169 103 24 21,424
N4GN 168 95 12 15,960 KCG
K8MR 151 81 6 15,795 MRRC
WD5K 186 77 14,322 NTCC
N8BJQ 159 83 12 13,197 SWODXA
VE3CVG 95 51 20 6,630
N7IR 104 46 26 6,164
K0UK 84 48 18 4,032 Grand Mesa
N2YEV 96 31 28 3,627
NL7CO 119 29 20 3,451
W8RU 54 36 4 2,232 MRRC
K5WPN 65 24 8 1,560
K6RIM 57 14 2 798 NCCC
K1VU 26 11 297 YCCC
N4WSM 11 7 84 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op QRP
N6ZZ 96 48 4 4,608
W6RCL 65 25 5 1,750
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op Port LP
W8CAR 42 29 5 1,218 MRRC
AE0Q 38 14 532 Grand Mesa
AB0MV 37 14 518 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op Port QRP
K9PW 510 189 31 145,908 SMC
W9GKA 111 55 24 7,865
N0JK 27 23 14 621
Operators:
K5TR K5TR,WM5R
K7VE/R K7VE,KD7PRN
K8CC K8CC,K9TM,WX3M
KB1DFB KB1DFB,KE1LI,N1XS
NI9E N9FH,N9LLT,N9VA,NI9E,W9GA
VE2ZP VA2ADB,VE2ZP
VE6JW VE6JW,VE6JY,VE6LDX,VE6MAA,WA2TMC
W3SO AI3M,K3IXD,W3PAW,W3TEF,W3YOZ,WR3Z
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 12 08:03:15 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU FD, CW - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207121403.g6CE3Fj04915@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU FD, CW - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: (see your national society rules)
E-mail logs to: (see your national society rules)
Mail logs to:
(see your national society rules)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Open HP
S55A/P 1296 206 881,062 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Open LP
DK0WT/P(DK2GZ) 910 168 528,192
S58U/P 928 145 24 463,275
DL0KD/P 633 136 24 291,720 RR DX
DF0BK/P 667 120 24 274,440
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Restricted LP
GM3POI/P 1152 159 24 631,866 Orkney ARC
DL0UP/P 925 170 24 540,770 L11
G0RGH/P 535 0 24 2,268 Harwich Amateur Radi
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Fixed HP
F5IN 724 126 323,064 U.F.T.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Fixed LP
LY1DS 258 55 3 51,590 Lithuanian DX
YL2PN 100 30 3 393 Latvian CC
S52MY 5 21 1 105
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Open HP
VE3XAX 354 76 19 89,224 U-VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Open LP
S51JM/P 170 67 9 40,401
Operators:
DF0BK/P DL4SDW,DL4SDX,DL5SEJ,DL8SCG
DL0KD/P DJ5CU,DL1EKC,DL2EBH
DL0UP/P DL1EFD,DL1EFO
G0RGH/P G0DVJ,G0SCP,G3ZQU,G4AQZ,G4EYE,G4FTP,G4WHK,M0CGE
GM3POI/P G3MXJ,GM3POI
S55A/P S53Z,S55A,S56A,S57AD,S57NWT,S57RW,S57UKE,S58O,
S59KW
S58U/P S51VA,S51VI,S53AU,S57LO,S57RR,S59AV
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 12 11:23:55 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FCC Wants Your Input
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020712142355.011ed77c@pop.vnet.net>
Here's a copy of a message I put on the DX List:
"While on the subject of the new 5 MHz and 137 kHz bands, ARRL
summarized the FCC's NPRM here:
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2002/05/15/100/
In particular, note the following:
"The FCC has proposed letting amateurs
operate at full legal limit on
a new 5 MHz allocation, but it left
open for further discussion
whether to restrict the band to Amateur
Extra Class licensees or make
it available to General and higher
class licensees. The FCC also
invited further comment on whether the
band should be broken
down into mode-specific subbands. The
ARRL had proposed opening the entire band
to RTTY, data (including CW), phone and
image emission types."
The FCC's NPRM is here:
http://www.arrl.org/announce/regulatory/et02-98/
with the specific paragraphs regarding these issues here:
39. It appears that amateur radio operators should be able to avoid
interference to primary operations in this band due to the
limited numbers of primary assignments[92] which are authorized for
operation in the 5250-5400 kHz band, and their
experience in sharing HF frequencies in other bands. The operational
protocol of "listen before transmit" employed by amateur
radio operators should further minimize interference. We note that currently
this technique is not explicitly required by our Rules
and we request comment on whether it should be explicitly stated in the
Rules in order to protect the primary operators in the
5250-5400 kHz band. We propose to limit the output power of the amateur
stations to 1500 W PEP as requested by ARRL.
Further, we invite comments as to whether the 5250-5400 kHz band should be
restricted to Amateur radio operators with an
Amateur Extra Class license to better ensure compatible sharing with the
Federal Government operations, or could the band
also be made available to operators with a General or Advanced Class license
just as in the 10,100-10,150 kHz band (30
meter band). [93] We invite comment on whether the power limit and operator
license requirement are sufficient to prevent
interference to primary users, and whether an EIRP limit would also be
appropriate for this frequency band. We also invite
comment on other means that will reduce potential interference.
40. The 5000 kHz Petition does not discuss sub-banding and ARRL's suggested
rules would allow all emission types to use
the entire band.[94] We note that several commenters suggest that
sub-banding would be useful. We further note that Section
97.305 of our Rules segregates digital modes from other amateur station
emission modes in the 3500 kHz and 7000 kHz bands
to protect narrow band emissions like data from wider emissions like
single-side band voice.[95] We request comment on
whether sub-banding is necessary and/or appropriate for the 5000 kHz band as
well.
I personally believe sub-banding should be done with a simple
demarcation between narrowband (CW, digital) and wideband (phone,
image) just as we have on every other HF band except 160 meters. On
160, I've personally experienced numerous problems with inter-modal
interference over the past 18 years, and that is whay I was a
co-sponsor of RM-10352 which proposed a simple demarcation of 1840 and
below for narrowband modes only.
If you want to submit comments to the FCC, it is VERY simple
to do. Just go to this site:
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi
enter only 02-98 in Box 1, fill out the other "required" boxes
(2,3,7,8,9,10 and 12), and submit your comments either as an attached
file (using the first form in Adobe PDF, MS Word, MS Excel,
WordPerfect, ASCII or Lotus 123) or, more simply, just type your
comments in the bottom Brief Comment form. After you submit,
a confirmation screen will appear and you click "Finish Transaction
and Receive Confirmation". A final confirmation screen should appear
with your name and a confirmation number if all is accepted correctly.
In summary, the FCC's questions about 5 MHz are:
1. Power limit of 1500 watts OK?
2. Amateur Extra or General and above?
3. Is sub-banding necessary and appropriate? If you feel
it is, you might want to suggest a dividing line such as 5250-5300
for narrowband only (CW, digital).
I feel ARRL generally represents our interests well, but the
FCC has made it very simple for all of us to make comments directly.
If you feel you want to make your voice heard, take a few minutes to
do so now before the comment window closes July 29. If we don't,
we have nobody (including ARRL) to blame but ourselves.
73, Bill W4ZV
P.S. If any of you have problems with the FCC site, E-mail me
directly and I'll be happy to help."
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 12 11:50:05 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
Message-ID: <017301c229bb$cc4c97b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Hello everyone. I am going crazy here. I have looked and double-looked at
posts about submitting early-bird logs for the WRTC/IARU, and at the WRTC
web site, and nowhere can I find an email address to send the early-bird log
to. I am assuming it is different from where you submit your official
contest entries and also from the WRTC submission address, since the
instructions say:
"The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU
2002 contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002
contest committee...."
Can someone straighten me out? Thanks.
Mark, N5OT
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 12 18:42:11 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020712164211.011c9394@pop.vnet.net>
N5OT wrote:
>nowhere can I find an email address to send the early-bird log to.
http://www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm
Logs:
Only e-mail logs (ASCII) are accepted.
The preferred log formats are Cabrillo, CT.ALL and TR.DAT.
The "Early Bird" logs should be submitted by 18.00 UTC on Sunday, July 14,
2002. Regular latest submission date is July 31, 2002.
All logs should be sent via e-mail to: logs@wrtc2002.org
NOTE: The subject field of the e-mail should contain your contest callsign,
e.g. " Subject: WRTC2002 OH2AAA"
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n2mg at eham.net Fri Jul 12 16:03:26 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
Message-ID: <200207121803.g6CI3P5r019617@contesting.com>
I've been looking at the same thing and if I understand it right...
It seems the confusion stems from that fact that participating in the
WRTC as a non-WRTCer (for, say, the worked all WRTC) and participating
in IARU are really two different things. Concurrent but not equivalent?
For WRTC-related prizes one needs to submit by 31-Jul (or by 18.00 UTC
on Sunday, July 14, 2002 for EARLY BIRD)
and for the above, email to: logs@wrtc2002.org
For IARU itself,
http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2002/rules-iaru.html
> > 10.1. Entries must be postmarked or emailed no later than 30 days
> > after the end of the contest (August 13, 2002). No late entries can
> > be accepted. Entries that are received after mid-October 2002, even
> > if mailed in time, may not be received in time to be included in
> > the official results.
And here's another address:
> > 10.2.5. Entries sent as attachments to email must be sent to
IARUHF@iaru.org.
Same logs....two email addresses...
Right?
73 Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by Mark Beckwith <swca@swbell.net> on Fri, 12
Jul 2002 10:50:05 -0500.
> Hello everyone. I am going crazy here. I have looked and double-looked at
> posts about submitting early-bird logs for the WRTC/IARU, and at the WRTC
> web site, and nowhere can I find an email address to send the early-bird log
> to. I am assuming it is different from where you submit your official
> contest entries and also from the WRTC submission address, since the
> instructions say:
>
> "The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU
> 2002 contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002
> contest committee...."
>
> Can someone straighten me out? Thanks.
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
>From ua3ap at mail.ru Fri Jul 12 23:31:31 2002
From: ua3ap@mail.ru (Sergei Kulyov)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 - Special OJ Callsigns, A Reminder
In-Reply-To: <01c22672$1d855600$abc5f83e@default>
Message-ID: <E17T5CV-000Evg-00@f13.mail.ru>
Hello to everybody. The latest news from the WRTC2002 tell about 54 stations on
the air. The Excell spreadsheet gives only 52.
What are two extra calls?
Thanks and GL in WRTC2002!
73, Sergei - UA3AP
-----Original Message-----
From: "Ari Korhonen" <ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi>
To: <wrtc2002@ne.nal.go.jp>, "Editors"
<editors@n4gn.com>,<cq-contest@contesting.com>, "CCF" <ccf@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 - Special OJ Callsigns, A Reminder
>
>
> Worked All WRTC2002 - "Worked All New OJ prefixes"
>
> Get your log in immediately after the contest and Win Valuable "Early
> Bird" prizes - WRTC2002 special incentive for 6-hour log-in!
>
> OJ1- OJ8 prefixes activated for the 1st time!
>
> The WRTC2002 teams will be using special 2x1 type of callsigns with special
OJ1-OJ8 prefixes (e.g. OJ1M). The OJ1-OJ8 prefixes are activated for the first
time in history to honour WRTC2002 - the Olympics of Amateur Radio contesting
in Finland.
>
> The list of OJ callsigns is as follows:
> OJ1C OJ1F OJ1M OJ1N OJ1S OJ1W OJ1X
> OJ2F OJ2H OJ2J OJ2Q OJ2V OJ2Y OJ2Z
> OJ3A OJ3D OJ3N OJ3R OJ3T OJ3X
> OJ4A OJ4M OJ4N OJ4S OJ4W
> OJ5A OJ5E OJ5M OJ5T OJ5U OJ5W OJ5Z
> OJ6C OJ6E OJ6K OJ6N OJ6W OJ6X OJ6Y
> OJ7A OJ7C OJ7M OJ7N OJ7S OJ7W OJ7X
> OJ8A OJ8E OJ8K OJ8L OJ8N OJ8W
>
> You can download an Excel -checklist for the contest from:
> http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/ojcalls.xls
>
>
> Worked All WRTC2002 - Rules for non-WRTC2002 stations
>
> * The same WRTC2002 station can be worked once on CW and once on SSB on
> each band.
> * Each correct two-way CW or SSB QSO with a WRTC2002 station counts 1
> point. A duplicate QSO on same band and mode counts 0 points.
> * Score = total sum of QSO points
> Logs:
> Only e-mail logs (ASCII) are accepted.
> The preferred log formats are Cabrillo, CT.ALL and TR.DAT.
> The "Early Bird" logs should be submitted by 18.00 UTC on Sunday, July 14,
> 2002. Regular latest submission date is July 31, 2002.
> All logs should be sent via e-mail to: logs@wrtc2002.org
> NOTE: The subject field of the e-mail should contain your contest callsign,
> e.g. " Subject: WRTC2002 OH2AAA"
>
> Request for stations working the IARU 2002 contest
> The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU 2002
contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002 contest
committee to be used as reference data within the official WRTC2002
log-checking procedure. The committee guarantees that these logs will be used
only for cross checking purposes of the WRTC2002 team championship.
>
> NOTE: All e-mail logs submitted within 6 hours after the contest ends will
participate in a lottery with special WRTC2002 prizes.
>
> Awards & Categories
> The following "Worked All WRTC2002" awards will be issued based on the above
contest rules:
> "Worked All WRTC2002" awards
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op CW
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op SSB
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op Mixed
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op CW
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op SSB
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op Mixed
> Worked all WRTC2002 - IARU HQ stations
>
> Awards will be given to the stations with highest number of points in the
following
> categories:
> 1st 2nd 3rd
> World
> Europe
> North America
> South America
> Asia
> Africa
> Oceania
> HQ Stations
> OH - Finland
> Special Plaques
> Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - CW
> Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - SSB
> Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - Mixed
>
> Other Prizes
> T-shirts (DX) Worked 130 WRTC2002 qsos
> T-shirts (EU) Worked 200 WRTC2002 qsos
>
>
> WRTC2002 ORGANIZING COMMITTEE (via OH1EH)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Fri Jul 12 15:51:11 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
References: <200207121803.g6CI3P5r019617@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <3D2F251F.911F8F2@gte.net>
"Mike Gilmer, N2MG" wrote:
> It seems the confusion stems from that fact that participating in the
> WRTC as a non-WRTCer (for, say, the worked all WRTC) and participating
> in IARU are really two different things. Concurrent but not
> equivalent?
The "early-bird" logs sent to logs@wrtc2002.org are used to check the
WRTC competitors logs (and for WRTC prizes/awards)
The logs sent to IARUHF@iaru.org
is the "official" log submission address (like always) where they are
checked and eventually published in QST.
> Same logs....two email addresses...
If you want to submit your log for WRTC log-checking and the WRTC
prizes/awards ... Yes.
If you don't, then to IARUHF@iaru.org only.
Ron
>From n2mg at eham.net Fri Jul 12 17:00:58 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 - Special OJ Callsigns, A Reminder
Message-ID: <200207121900.g6CJ0v5r020335@contesting.com>
N0AX mentioned "54 nearly identical stations" - perhaps either a
mistake, or there are 2 spares.
52 is the right number - it's consistent with the list of calls on the
site, the team/referee page and the spreadsheet.
Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by "Sergei Kulyov" <ua3ap@mail.ru> on Fri, 12
Jul 2002 22:31:31 +0400.
> Hello to everybody. The latest news from the WRTC2002 tell about 54 stations
> on
> the air. The Excell spreadsheet gives only 52.
> What are two extra calls?
>
> Thanks and GL in WRTC2002!
>
>From ah3c at frii.com Fri Jul 12 14:57:27 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AH3C EMERGENCY !!!
References: <01c22672$1d855600$abc5f83e@default>
Message-ID: <005101c229de$5aaf1f60$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Please get a hold of Peter H Grillo( AH3C) at the WRTC 2002 and advise him
to call his daughter Liz at (916)734-2994 Pediatric ICU Room #5. His
grandson Josh had an emergency appendectimy...three days after his
appendics burts. It is touch and go.
Tks, Ah3c xyl, Judy
>From n2nl at yahoo.com Fri Jul 12 14:16:38 2002
From: n2nl@yahoo.com (David Mueller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WRTC2002 0726] AH3C EMERGENCY !!!
In-Reply-To: <005101c229de$5aaf1f60$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <20020712201638.6465.qmail@web21405.mail.yahoo.com>
Pete has been notified.....
73, Dave OH\N2NL
--- AH3C <ah3c@frii.com> wrote:
> Please get a hold of Peter H Grillo( AH3C) at the
> WRTC 2002 and advise him
> to call his daughter Liz at (916)734-2994 Pediatric
> ICU Room #5. His
> grandson Josh had an emergency appendectimy...three
> days after his
> appendics burts. It is touch and go.
> Tks, Ah3c xyl, Judy
>
>
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>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Sat Jul 13 01:38:37 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
Message-ID: <20020712213837.HVSX20539.fep06-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.110]>
IARU contest itself and WRTC2002 are two different things.
If you want to send your log for IARU contest, use IARUHF@iaru.org.
For WRTC2002 Early Bird prizes + log checking email is:
logs@wrtc2002.org . We will use these logs for checking the WRTC2002
competitors logs only and they will not be forwarded to ARRL.
73 Timo OH1NOA/2
WRTC2002 HQ, Espoo
PS: If you want to know which team has which referee/host, check now our web
site http://www.wrtc2002.org > Online news.
>
> L?hett?j?: "Mike Gilmer, N2MG"<n2mg@eham.net>
> P?iv?ys: 2002/07/12 pe PM 09:03:26 GMT+03:00
> Vastaanottaja: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Kopio: Mark Beckwith <swca@swbell.net>
> Aihe: Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
>
> I've been looking at the same thing and if I understand it right...
>
> It seems the confusion stems from that fact that participating in the
> WRTC as a non-WRTCer (for, say, the worked all WRTC) and participating
> in IARU are really two different things. Concurrent but not equivalent?
>
> For WRTC-related prizes one needs to submit by 31-Jul (or by 18.00 UTC
> on Sunday, July 14, 2002 for EARLY BIRD)
>
> and for the above, email to: logs@wrtc2002.org
>
>
> For IARU itself,
>
> http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2002/rules-iaru.html
>
> > > 10.1. Entries must be postmarked or emailed no later than 30 days
> > > after the end of the contest (August 13, 2002). No late entries can
> > > be accepted. Entries that are received after mid-October 2002, even
> > > if mailed in time, may not be received in time to be included in
> > > the official results.
>
> And here's another address:
>
> > > 10.2.5. Entries sent as attachments to email must be sent to
> IARUHF@iaru.org.
>
> Same logs....two email addresses...
>
> Right?
>
> 73 Mike N2MG
>
>
> The following message was sent by Mark Beckwith <swca@swbell.net> on Fri, 12
> Jul 2002 10:50:05 -0500.
>
> > Hello everyone. I am going crazy here. I have looked and double-looked at
> > posts about submitting early-bird logs for the WRTC/IARU, and at the WRTC
> > web site, and nowhere can I find an email address to send the early-bird log
> > to. I am assuming it is different from where you submit your official
> > contest entries and also from the WRTC submission address, since the
> > instructions say:
> >
> > "The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU
> > 2002 contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002
> > contest committee...."
> >
> > Can someone straighten me out? Thanks.
> >
> > Mark, N5OT
> >
>
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>
>From ww3s at zoominternet.net Fri Jul 12 18:43:53 2002
From: ww3s@zoominternet.net (Jamie WW3S)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 160m during IARU?
Message-ID: <00b301c229ed$37d09640$6501a8c0@zoominternet.net>
Is there much activity on topband during IARU? Trying to determine if its
worth the effort to get the inv l back up for what may only be a few
mults.....
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 12 18:11:42 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Thanks...?
Message-ID: <01e001c229f1$1de15900$0100a8c0@TL01>
All who responded are assuming that Early-Bird entries go to the same place
as regular entries. Every response quoted the rules, which I quoted in my
original email as well.
IMO this is not clear, since IMO the rules only tell you where to send your
actual regular entries, and clearly state that, *in addition to this,* you
"also" send your log within 6 hours "to the...contest committee," but, IMO,
give no address for the contest committee, unless it coincidentally happens
to *also* be the regular log submission address. That's an assumption.
Whatever. I don't need to debate the fine points of rules clarity. I'll
just send mine where everyone else is sending theirs.
Thanks for clearing that up...?! See you on the air.
Mark, N5OT
>From mjwetzel at comcast.net Fri Jul 12 18:49:28 2002
From: mjwetzel@comcast.net (Mike Wetzel)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 160m during IARU?
In-Reply-To: <00b301c229ed$37d09640$6501a8c0@zoominternet.net>
Message-ID: <NCBBIPEKMKEIENBFHFHJKEHGFEAA.mjwetzel@comcast.net>
Jamie,
Yes, there will probably be only a few mults but that's a few more than none
on 160!
I assume people will try on the hour!
Mike W9RE
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Jamie WW3S
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 4:44 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] 160m during IARU?
>
>
> Is there much activity on topband during IARU? Trying to determine if its
> worth the effort to get the inv l back up for what may only be a few
> mults.....
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From harry at oh6yf.com Sat Jul 13 05:39:48 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New WRTC Photos now online!
References: <4.2.0.58.20020709212132.009bc940@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000a01c22a0e$2d1c3fd0$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hi all!
My new WRTC photos are now online at
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
73 de Harry OH6YF
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
>From dennis.mcalpine at verizon.net Fri Jul 12 22:59:14 2002
From: dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net (Dennis McAlpine)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
Message-ID: <000001c22a11$87cf0fe0$b69ffea9@oemcomputer>
My friend N2UN, who lives in an antenna deprived part of NYC, has successfully
managed to put up an R-7000 vertical antenna at his office. He is talking to a
Kachina at his office from his apartment via the phone lines and using some
x-10 devices to turn the power on and off.
Now like any good contester, Tony is trying how to use this remotely activated
station in a contest. His question is how do you use the Kachina operating
software at thesame time as a contest logging program, e.g. WriteLog, CT, NA,
etc. Has anyone had any experience with this probem and how did you do it?
Thanks for the help. It mayget another station on the air for us all to work.
73,
Dennis, K2SX
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>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Sat Jul 13 10:24:36 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 and "early bird" logs
Message-ID: <01c22a35$f5c8b540$LocalHost@default>
The IARU World HF Championship is right around the corner, within which
WRTC2002 is run (13-14th July).
Just a quick reminder to everyone that the WRTC2002 organizing committee
would like as many participants as possible to e-mail their contest logs
by 1800 UTC on July 14. These "early bird" logs will be used only for
log checking purposes related to the WRTC2002 teams.
Please use the following email address: logs@wrtc2002.org
There are incentives for doing this, please visit
www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm for the details.
Ari, OH1EH
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sat Jul 13 12:15:15 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The day of opening ceremonies and WRTC2002 Dinner
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020713101515.01209830@pop.vnet.net>
Ward, N0AX reports:
On the Bus with WRTC - #2 - 11 July 2002
Yesterday was a fun day - introductions, bus rides, cold beer (there's a
heat wave in Finland this week), and great food.
Now we are seeing the serious side of the competition.
Starting after dinner on Wednesday, both the competitors and referees had
the first of a series of meetings to review the
rules of the game. All of the competitors want to make the most of every
technique available to them, but none want to
be disqualified or appear dishonest. Similarly, the referees want to know
exactly how to interpret the rules and what to
do in case of a perceived infraction.
There are a LOT of detailed, knowledgable questions from both. For example,
the question arose, "In the 10-minute
QRT period before the contest, can the competitors be listening to the
bands?" (The rules are posted on the WRTC
Web site, www.wrtc2002.org.) This might seem a small thing, but it would
allow the team to prepare a "band map" of
multipliers (ITU zones or HQ stations). They could then start the contest
with enough knowledge to put several
multipliers in the log that may not be available later. All teams should be
allowed to listen during the QRT period or all
should be equally forbidden to do so. It was decided that listening was
forbidden until the starting bell rings at 1200Z.
The participants are seasoned contesters - both those operating the
stations and those charged with monitoring rule
enforcement. These people are clever and motivated to do their best. It is
in the interest of the sport to have clear rules
and fair enforcement, so a lot of time is spent in the days before the
contest judging these unobvious cases. In a
"spinoff" effect, the questions being raised and answered at WRTC can also
be applied in many cases to regular
contesting. By having the top competitors meet at one place, as with WRTC,
the exchange of views and decisions can
happen in minutes, instead of across contest seasons.
A new feature of WRTC that has raised some interesting issues this year is
the Real-Time Scoreboard. (check the
WRTC2002 Web site for details) For the first time, the competitor's claimed
scores will be available to the general
public (and contest participants) world-wide DURING THE CONTEST via a Web
page. The referees are charged with
using the Finnish GSM mobile phone system to send a short text message once
an hour with the team score. The SMS
(Short Messaging Service) is used to transmit the information, which is
delivered automatically to a computer. The
score is then retrieved from the message and added to the on-line data
base, where it is posted as a large bar chart for
viewing. It will be updated on the Web every 30 seconds, with most score
changes occuring within a few minutes of the
top of the hour.
This is truly groundbreaking! The first tiny steps toward real-time
visibility of a contest are taking place. This will
expose many more amateurs to the dynamics of contesting, as well as members
of the general public that may take an
interest in this strange Radiosport business.
Real-time score availability does have the ability to affect the way the
contest happens, of course. Radiosport is unique
in that members of the amateur radio public are expected, indeed required,
to participate in order for the contest to be a
success. It's as if a golf tournament gallery were required to catch the
ball and throw it back onto the fairway a few feet.
While improved visibility is definitely a good thing, there are also
potential negative consequences. For example, if one
team is lagging and their countrymen are able to identify them by their
voices or other nuances of their operation, they
might be motivated to "help out" by encouraging other local hams to get on
and contact that team. There are other
similar concerns. The organizing committee evaluated these concerns and
decided that the potential for negative
effects was greatly outweighed by the positive benefits visibility would
bring. In addition, it was felt that there were
factors that would affect the competition much more strongly--weather,
propagation, and general operator skill.
Therefore, the real-time scoreboard remains. Be sure to check it out!
Did I mention weather in that last sentence? Finns are feeling
uncomfortable this week because daily high temperatures
are hitting nearly 30 degrees, even up-country in the lake district of
Himos and Jamsa where we are before heading to
our host's stations. This is uncommonly hot for Finland, also known as
Suomi. While it makes for some sweaty brows
on people from cool climates, I don't think it is bothering the Texans,
Italians, South Africans, or Argentines. Yet, we
have some thunderstorms moving through the area tonight and tomorrow and
then for the contest weekend, things
should be a bit cooler and clearer.
The Opening Ceremony was quite the show, under a very large Big Tent over
more than 50 meters in diameter. All of
the competitors filed inside as for the Olympics, grouped by countries and
wearing their WRTC shirts. The teams
completely encircled the audience, serenaded by a fine jazz group. "The
Saints Come Marching In" started off the
parade, believe it or not, earning a laugh from the crowd that rapidly
turned to applause as their favorites appeared.
Tonight we have the more formal WRTC Opening Dinner with a speech from the
Contest Club of Finland's (CCF)
president and other dignitaries and members of the previous WRTC
committees. The brainchild of Danny Eskenazi
K7SS has certainly grown up to stand on its own two feet at the ripe old
age of 12.
I expect the late night schmoozing and conversations to QRT a little early
tonight (although the sky might still be
bright) for all of the operators and those who will supervise them to get
caught up on sleep and dispell the final
smidgens of jet lag. Tomorrow brings one final set of meetings and then on
to the host stations! The WRTC2002 has
done a marvelous job in setting up 54 nearly identical stations, all
checked out and ready for operation. But who could
rest easy, having come all this way, with so much on the line?
The clock is ticking in Finland...Kiipis! (Cheers!)
73, Ward N0AX/OH
PS - Don't forget to send in a log within 6 hours of the contest to
participate in the WRTC-sponsored raffle. There are
also special prizes for working as many of the OJ competitor callsigns as
possible. Check www.wrtc2002.org for details.
>From nn4t at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 13 09:12:55 2002
From: nn4t@bellsouth.net (Steve Daniel)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ft1000mp and computer interface
Message-ID: <016001c22a6f$0170c7a0$c273d6d1@nn4t>
I can't seem to get my 1000mp to communicate with the computer. I recall
reading that something in the radio needed to be altered from the factory
default so that band info, etc., can be transferred from the radio to
WriteLog, NA, etc. Anyone happen to know if this is correct? Thanks! Steve,
NN4T.
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sat Jul 13 14:25:43 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Realtime scores
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020713122543.0120dc04@pop.vnet.net>
Wow! Is this cool or what! PP5JR/PY1KN off to a huge lead
after the first hour...almost so huge I wonder if there was
a mistake!
http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/tilanne.pl?hpng=WRTC
73, Bill W4ZV
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sat Jul 13 14:53:09 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] On the Bus with WRTC - #3 - 12 July 2002
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020713125309.011d4a9c@pop.vnet.net>
Ward, N0AX reports:
Well, here I am back on the bus to Helsinki after a fast-paced couple of
days at the Himos resort with all the other
WRTC participants. We are a little bit tired--some are dozing against the
windows--but I think that mostly we are all
anxious to get to our host's stations and get started. The contest is now
about 24 hours away.
I am a referee for the team of UA2FZ and RW3WR who will be operating from
the home of OH2BAH, about 50 km
northwest of Helsinki. I have never met any of those gentlemen before.
Except for many contest QSOs, of course. The
plan is for all of us to meet back at the hotel, drive to the host station,
set up and then return to Helsinki. We will then
return the next morning and complete the preparations.
All of the WRTC stations have the same antennas--a triband beam for 20-10
meters with 2 elements on each band and
a Windom antenna for 40-80. The organizers have done a great job of getting
52 similar operating sites ready. They
have installed antennas in addition to whatever the host may have already.
Some of the hosts have substantial
stations--just as in previous WRTC's--but we will be unable to take
advantage of the "Big Aluminum".
This is one of the interesting elements of the competition. Most of the
competitors have done the bulk of their
operating at top of the line stations or from rare QTH's. Now they get to
operate with most of the hardware- or
callsign-related advantages removed.
How many will remember what it is like to operate with 100 watts and low
antennas? We will see on Sunday night.
There has been a lot of discussion about the propagation we can expect and
whether the "home field advantage" will
tip the scales in favor of the Russian or Finnish teams. So far, solar
conditions look good, but the lack of deep darkness
makes the low bands a big question to most teams.
This may be an advantage for regional competitors. Since my team is from
UA2 (between ES and SP) and Moscow, I
will be watching with great interest to see if they can take advantage of
their experience. By the way, along with the
WRTC participants, Himos is also home to the SRAL Summer Camp, which is
roughly equivalent to an extended
hamfest where hams come and camp out for many days. Between the hotel and
lake there are rows of campers and
trailers, with wire antennas or verticals extending up and out into the trees.
Every cabin is either full of our WRTC group or with OH hams for the Summer
Camp. Several have trailers loaded
with the same cross section of interesting equipment and--would you believe
it--junk we find at US hamfests. I suspect
as we are leaving on Friday, our places are rapidly filling with Summer
Camp inhabitants. Let me describe Himos a little
bit. North of Helsinki, the flat landscape begins to roll a little bit and
then breaks into hills of a few hundred meters.
Lakes are everywhere and Himos is between a couple of the larger hills on
the shore of a large lake. If you are looking
for Himos on a map, it may be difficult to find. Try looking for Jamsa,
about 200 km directly north of Helsinki.
Himos is about 10 km northeast of Jamsa. The resort accomodates a few
hundred in cabins, tents, and mobiles. The
forest and grass are deep green and not dried out in mid-summer at all. The
lake water is clean and moderately cool,
ideal for swimming and there are nearly always one or two Finns taking a
dip. You can also see some sauna inhabitants
strolling outside to the water, cooling off, and returning to the heat.
Some fish, some stroll, and in our case, some enjoy
each other's company. The final activity this morning, before lunch and
breaking camp, was the selection of team
callsigns and the introduction of the referees and hosts to the teams. This
is always the most dramatic moment before
the contest as the referees receive a sealed envelope containing the
special callsign, not to be opened until 10 minutes
before the contest begins. Each team captain was called to the front of the
watching audience.
He selected an envelope from a long line laid out at the feet of the chief
referee, Roger Western G3SXW. The referee
and host for the team were then announced and all three met for the first
time in front of all of us. At the conclusion of
52 separate envelope selections, the competition is set. Everyone knows the
who and where and when. My next
installment will come after the contest is all over. I will be monitoring
each QSO of my team--all 24 hours worth. No
sleeping for the referee! We will meet back at the hotel and start the
delicate process of executing "Howdjadoo?" See
you then! Kiipis!
Harry, OH6YF has now more photos from SRAL Summercamp, check
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com/
>From nn4t at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 13 10:29:41 2002
From: nn4t@bellsouth.net (Steve Daniel)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: ft1000mp and computer interface
Message-ID: <018c01c22a79$babc30a0$c273d6d1@nn4t>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Daniel" <nn4t@bellsouth.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 8:12 AM
Subject: ft1000mp and computer interface
> I can't seem to get my 1000mp to communicate with the computer. I recall
> reading that something in the radio needed to be altered from the factory
> default so that band info, etc., can be transferred from the radio to
> WriteLog, NA, etc. Anyone happen to know if this is correct? Thanks!
Steve,
> NN4T.
>
>From sm2ekm at telia.com Sat Jul 13 19:20:02 2002
From: sm2ekm@telia.com (Jan Erik Holm)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Realtime scores
References: <1.5.4.32.20020713122543.0120dc04@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <3D305332.3050204@telia.com>
Yes this is super neat! Too bad these guys are so close
to me cuz they are very hard to work on the high bands,
100W and tribander at 50ft doesn?t create any backscatter
signal to brag about, maybe I can work some on 80/40
tonight.
73 SM2EKM
PS: PP5JR/PY1KN is all academic now, now the old super
op?s are in the lead.
-------------------------------------------------------
Bill Tippett wrote:
>Wow! Is this cool or what! PP5JR/PY1KN off to a huge lead
>after the first hour...almost so huge I wonder if there was
>a mistake!
>
>http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/tilanne.pl?hpng=WRTC
>
>73, Bill W4ZV
>
>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Sat Jul 13 17:22:41 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Realtime scoreboard - A Reminder
Message-ID: <01c22a70$5df2eb60$LocalHost@default>
Hi guys,
Just a reminder
Look for advanced web based scoreboard live at:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/realtime.htm
(available 12:00 UTC 13.7.02 - 12:00 UTC 14.7.02).
Ari, OH1EH
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Sat Jul 13 21:19:18 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] are you guys following this on the web!
Message-ID: <000e01c22acc$18829060$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
At the half way point the competition for the top seeds seems to continue to
contain the same three teams....
At 0000Z DL2CC and DL6FBL are one half a percent ahead of N5TJ and K1TO with
RA3AUU and RV1AW in third...
TVI/RFI forced me to QRT and go home so I have been following the web
coverage of the event....
These three teams have pretty much been together in the top three for most
of the contest so far...
The long in the tooth team of N6TJ and N6AA is hanging in there with the
"kids" at 5th currently....
Lots to look at - undoubtedly some beautiful graphs will come out of this
information...very very cool.....
If you haven't gone there yet - go to:
http://wrtc.jouni.net/WRTC/
the bar graph is awesome - not how many of these stations are so closely
grouped together!
EXCELLENT WORK FINNS!
73,
Jim, K4OJ (OJ on the end)
>From w9wi at w9wi.com Sat Jul 13 21:53:10 2002
From: w9wi@w9wi.com (Doug Smith W9WI)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Unsportsmanlike Conduct
Message-ID: <20020713205310.A4767@w9wi.com>
I'm sure most of us have encountered something we'd call cheating as we
contest. What I observed this evening was the most blatant example I've
ever experienced.
0059z on 14077.3. I'm CQing, running Europeans and W's.
LZ7H calls, about S2. I send him "5NN 8". He gets out "R 5N..", then..
"CQ TEST LZ7T LZ7T LZ7T LZ7T..." (I didn't count how many times he signed
but it was at least five) S8-S9.
I send "LZ7T QRX LZ7H NR ?". And LZ7T jams him again.
After three tries I finally hear LZ7H well enough to verify he's sending the
same zone the computer is suggesting. I log the QSO and send "TU W9WI
TEST".
And never hear from LZ7T again. (i.e., he was jamming LZ7H, not me)
If I were LZ7H I would have probably would have QSYd to 11 meters where
people are better-behaved. Unfortunately I have no quick way of recording
signals during a contest, or a recording would already be on the way to
Newington.
I'm curious, did anyone else who worked LZ7H notice similar behavior?
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com
>From w2up at mindspring.com Sun Jul 14 14:28:39 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
Message-ID: <3D317C87.22504.47D9C0C@localhost>
I sent my log to logs@wrtc2002.org, but didn't get any kind of
confirmation. Should I have?
Barry--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From k7qq at netzero.net Sun Jul 14 15:47:17 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
References: <3D317C87.22504.47D9C0C@localhost>
Message-ID: <00a001c22b45$5bc26700$35252a42@k7qq>
Quacks's
I don't think they are send confirmations, I sent my logs with about 5 hrs.
to go. Maybe I'll get a REAL early bird award. It was my Bed time.
I didn't get a confirm from them!!!!
Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 13:28
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
> I sent my log to logs@wrtc2002.org, but didn't get any kind of
> confirmation. Should I have?
> Barry--
> Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>
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>From aluscre at neo.rr.com Sun Jul 14 12:16:43 2002
From: aluscre@neo.rr.com (aluscre)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC- OJ Calls/Teams List
Message-ID: <200207141516.g6EFG5r19956@clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com>
I might be missing something but has the list matching the teams with
the teams posted yet?
I saw the scores but assumed OJ calls list would appear immediately
following end of contest..
--
|--------------------------|
Anthony A. Luscre
K8ZT
Stow, Ohio
|--------------------------|
Visit My Website at
http://www.qsl.net/k8zt
|--------------------------|
>From n2mg at eham.net Sun Jul 14 12:45:04 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [TRLog] IARU LOG Bounced
References: <4.1.20020714101437.00993980@pop.southwind.net>
Message-ID: <002201c22b66$97590f50$24749541@delllaptopmfg>
I don't think there's anything for the league to fix. They (always?) list
the results (and issue awards?) based on ARRL section. I think the line
ARRL-SECTION: <YOURSECTIONHERE>
needs to be entered into the Cabrillo file. Even if the contest makes no
use of it (as in the ARRL 10M), the ARRL uses the section for the results.
73 Mike N2MG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lappin - W?UY" <lappint@southwind.net>
To: <trlog@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 8:18 AM
Subject: [TRLog] IARU LOG Bounced
> ARRL ROBOT bounced my Cabrillo log. The message said "no valid ARRL
> section specified". I assume they'll fix that. Any one else experience
> the problem? Also got the too many multipliers enables during POST. I
too
> skipped the process.
>
>
>
> 73
> Tom
> W?UY
>
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>From ve5sf at sk.sympatico.ca Sun Jul 14 11:00:10 2002
From: ve5sf@sk.sympatico.ca (Sam Ferris)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC early logs .... OOOPS
Message-ID: <003901c22b4f$88a0b740$f7dea58e@samugmtpxl8tq0>
Hope somebody is watching this list over there in OH land. Sent in my early
log but found that the old CT 9.64 version only put the CW contacts in the
cabrillo log for some reason. Have sent a revised log already using a later
version (9.70), but wonder if they were prepared for botched logs and revisions
....
Sam
VE5SF
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>From ka0vxk at arrl.net Sun Jul 14 12:05:46 2002
From: ka0vxk@arrl.net (Bill Duffy)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Query
Message-ID: <000b01c22b50$50e295c0$1e01a8c0@omhaw1.ne.home.com>
Greetings All:
This was my first IARU contest. Very enjoyable.
I have a scoring question.
When I QSO'd with different HQ stations, I entered 59xxx(appropriate rpt) in
my log. Sometimes the section also came up automatically. Is it permissable
to go back and put the section #'s in that did not show up because of the
59xxx report? Or do I interpret the rules correctly in that HQ stations only
count as one point?
I realize this is a VERY BASIC question and will appreciate any answers.
Tnx es 73
Bill KA0VXK
ps : If you're cranky from being up 24 plus hours, don't answer for a couple
of days. hi hi CUL
>From n2mg at eham.net Sun Jul 14 13:05:25 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC- OJ Calls/Teams List
References: <200207141516.g6EFG5r19956@clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com>
Message-ID: <004d01c22b69$69f77260$24749541@delllaptopmfg>
I'd hope they'd wait until after the early-bird logs are submitted (and
scores processed) to - prevent mischief!
Mike N2MG
----- Original Message -----
From: "aluscre" <aluscre@neo.rr.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 8:16 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC- OJ Calls/Teams List
> I might be missing something but has the list matching the teams with
> the teams posted yet?
> I saw the scores but assumed OJ calls list would appear immediately
> following end of contest..
>
> --
> |--------------------------|
> Anthony A. Luscre
> K8ZT
> Stow, Ohio
> |--------------------------|
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> http://www.qsl.net/k8zt
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>
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>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Sun Jul 14 22:57:16 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
Message-ID: <20020714185716.MTVO20539.fep06-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.109]>
There will be no confirmation.
Too big job to do manually in the middle of log checking process.
Thanks for those 900+ "early bird" logs !
73 Timo OH1NOA
>
> L?hett?j?: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
> P?iv?ys: 2002/07/14 su PM 05:47:17 GMT+03:00
> Vastaanottaja: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Aihe: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
>
> Quacks's
> I don't think they are send confirmations, I sent my logs with about 5 hrs.
> to go. Maybe I'll get a REAL early bird award. It was my Bed time.
> I didn't get a confirm from them!!!!
> Rex
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 13:28
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
>
>
> > I sent my log to logs@wrtc2002.org, but didn't get any kind of
> > confirmation. Should I have?
> > Barry--
> > Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> > Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
> >
> >
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sun Jul 14 20:49:15 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020714184915.011daf38@pop.vnet.net>
Hold on pardners! The WRTC website is now showing N5TJ/K1TO #1,
DL2CC/DL6FBL #2, and N6TJ/N6AA # 15 at 1.411 Meg (down from 1.747 Meg
originally)! There may have been some problem with the realtime N6TJ/N6AA
log which which was corrected when the teams made their final submission
after briefly reviewing their logs. If true, #1 and #2 positions are only
0.2% apart (6140 points) and a very close finish will come down to
log-checking. DL2CC/DL6FBL's score was also adjusted down exactly 1000
points which dropped them below N5TJ/K1TO (they were ahead in the initial
results). If this is all correct, we won't know who really won until the
awards ceremony tomorrow!
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n2mg at eham.net Sun Jul 14 17:00:41 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC scores
Message-ID: <001301c22b8a$481608c0$398c9541@delllaptopmfg>
I don't think these are final, but there has been some major shuffling of
the results on:
http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/tilanne.pl?hpng=WRTC
1. N5TJ/K1TO (were 3rd)
2. DL2CC/DL6FBL (were 2nd)
3. RA3AUU/RV1AW (were 4th)
with the N6TJ/N6AA team (previously in first place) being dropped to 15th
place. Quite the change from the initial results (which I screen-captured
for posterity)
-Mike N2MG
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sun Jul 14 21:05:20 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020714190520.011fe79c@pop.vnet.net>
The detailed breakdown for N6TJ/N6AA shows the following
sequence, only the last of which is posted, even though it is an
earlier time. May be some problem with the posting process since
the progression from earlier would indicate the 1.7M score is in
the right ballpark (remember OH time is UTC + 3):
OH time Score
13:00:26 1570162
14:01:10 1658232
15:26:21 1747340
15:20:00 1411344
At this point, nobody knows what this means but the OH guys!
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n4zr at contesting.com Sun Jul 14 17:28:12 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020714190520.011fe79c@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020714162452.051f87c0@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 08:05 PM 7/14/02 +0100, Bill Tippett wrote:
> The detailed breakdown for N6TJ/N6AA shows the following
>sequence, only the last of which is posted, even though it is an
>earlier time. May be some problem with the posting process since
>the progression from earlier would indicate the 1.7M score is in
>the right ballpark (remember OH time is UTC + 3):
>
>OH time Score
>13:00:26 1570162
>14:01:10 1658232
>15:26:21 1747340
>15:20:00 1411344
>
> At this point, nobody knows what this means but the OH guys!
With an hour to go, some back-markers suddenly vaulted into first place,
temporarily. Clearly there were some glitches, but the OH guys deserve our
applause for their ground-breaking efforts regardless.
Guess I can dig out my Grey Power tee-shirt, but should stop short of
putting it on until tomorrow (maybe).
73, Pete N4ZR
(61 and proud of it, now...)
>From W1RM at attbi.com Sun Jul 14 17:44:55 2002
From: W1RM@attbi.com (Peter Chamalian)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [YCCC] WRTC scores
In-Reply-To: <001301c22b8a$481608c0$398c9541@delllaptopmfg>
Message-ID: <000201c22b77$4fa65a80$6401a8c0@attbi.com>
Yogi was right! It ain't over 'til it's over.
Pete, W1RM
-----Original Message-----
From: yccc-admin@yccc.org [mailto:yccc-admin@yccc.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Gilmer
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 7:01 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com; yccc@yccc.org
Subject: [YCCC] WRTC scores
I don't think these are final, but there has been some major shuffling
of
the results on:
http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/tilanne.pl?hpng=WRTC
1. N5TJ/K1TO (were 3rd)
2. DL2CC/DL6FBL (were 2nd)
3. RA3AUU/RV1AW (were 4th)
with the N6TJ/N6AA team (previously in first place) being dropped to
15th
place. Quite the change from the initial results (which I
screen-captured
for posterity)
-Mike N2MG
_______________________________________________
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>From TOMK5RC at aol.com Sun Jul 14 18:26:12 2002
From: TOMK5RC@aol.com (TOMK5RC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
Message-ID: <105.189decb6.2a634674@aol.com>
I just notice the same thing. All of the scores have changed from the earlier
posting. Must be claimed versus checked.
Tom Taormina, K5RC
aka NV7A
Virginia City NV
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sun Jul 14 22:28:17 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] On the Bus with WRTC - #4 - 14 July 2002
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020714202817.011e0bcc@pop.vnet.net>
It's all over now! The IARU HF Championship is over as of a couple hours
ago and the team and I are packing our things and loading them into
OH2BAH's car for the short ride back to Helsinki and the gathering gang
at the Radisson hotel. And what a contest it was.
As we pulled into OH2BAH's QTH, we were thrilled to see several large
towers and most amazing of all, a homemade 10-meter diameter dish for
EME work. John has a couple of acres at his summer home on a lake about
40 miles from Helsinki. He shares the antennas with his brother, OH2PO,
the builder of the dish. One of the truly unique experiences of this
WRTC were the pre- and post-contest saunas (pronouced "SOW-nah").
I'm still feeling the warm glow that results from dashing out of the
dark, dry heat of the wooden benches and diving off the dock into the
cool, clear water. I had to demonstrate the good, old American
Cannonball and Can Opener, of course. There's nothing like it.
Returning to the contest, though, if you were following the Real-Time
Scoreboard, I'm sure you got caught up in the horse race that developed
on Sunday. At the close of business, N6TJ and N6AA had managed to
overtake last year's champs (and odds-on favorites) N5TJ and K1TO for
the gold medal. Jim and Dick also fended off a very close challenge from
DL6FBL and DL2CC, who claimed the silver--also ahead of Jeff and Todd,
who will be delighted to take the bronze. Saturday night had N5TJ/K1TO
in the lead by a substantial margin--I'm guessing due to their uncanny
ability to mix mult-chasing with running. I was expecting a three-peat,
but Team Old Age and Treachery managed to close the gap and more.
I'm sure that Jim N6TJ will attribute it to "Guts", and he may be right.
Conditions were really good. Our host, John OH2BAH, said that conditions
were excellent for midsummer, with a minimum of static and absorption on
the low bands. Ten was spotty which was hardly a surprise with the
solar flux at 136. But with the A and K indices low at 4 and 2,
respectively, we were prepared for that. There were no fades and the
stations appeared from different parts of the world pretty much on cue.
I hope you got a chance to put a bunch of the OJ stations in your
log--maybe enough for a prize or certificate. Listening as I did to the
entire contest--I think I dozed for a total of about 45 minutes over the
entire 24-hour run--this was an unusual contest.
Before the starting bell, we all had visions of what might become an "EU
Sweepstakes". Not so. Because the weather cooperated, as well, there
were no stations off the air at any time due to lightning. I guess with
the sky staying light all the time, maybe you could use the excuse of
the sun being in your eyes, but that's about all you have to try. 80
meters was regional (what a surprise) but all the other bands were open
for DX with plenty of stations. My team of UA2FZ and RW4WR placed close
to the middle of the pack even with 2400+ QSOs.
They pushed the last-10-QSO rate meter into the high 200's many times,
even on CW. I think the difference between the competitors is a very
small one and is mainly of the fine points of squeezing every drop out
of a pileup or flurry of callers. With low antennas (12-meters about
ground) and equal locations, no one team had dominant propagation, so
they had to maximize each chance to score. So it was over in seemingly
an instant. I'll tell you that it was a tough chore to be so close--at
the end of a headphone cable--and yet so far, not being able to
participate in the rough and tumble of the contest. Referees just have
to grit their teeth and watch and listen. However, it does strengthen
one's resolve to get better and be worthy of one of the next WRTC
chairs. Speaking of which, will there be another WRTC? Almost
certainly, but unlike the past two events, there is no announcement of a
host organization yet. I'm sure that the enthusiasm generated by
WRTC2002 will carry over to an organization stepping up and taking on
the job.
Then we will all be figuring out how to be a captain...or be best
friends with someone who is. And maybe just packing our bags and saving
our frequent-flyer miles to participate in one of the best experiences
in ham radio, the World Radiosport Team Championship.
Nakemiin (Goodbye) from Finland!
73, Ward N0AX/OH
>From n2mg at eham.net Sun Jul 14 21:12:04 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
References: <1.5.4.32.20020714190520.011fe79c@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <002501c22bad$67243d40$62749541@delllaptopmfg>
Sounds more like a problem with the scoring process, like perhaps the
software that team was using was miscounting (over scoring) something all
along, then at the end they realized it and recalculated and reposted
(though I cannot explain the time stamps)
Not that we would speculate - not on *this* reflector... ;-)
-Mike N2MG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tippett" <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
To: <pvrc@mailman.qth.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 12:05 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
> The detailed breakdown for N6TJ/N6AA shows the following
> sequence, only the last of which is posted, even though it is an
> earlier time. May be some problem with the posting process since
> the progression from earlier would indicate the 1.7M score is in
> the right ballpark (remember OH time is UTC + 3):
>
> OH time Score
> 13:00:26 1570162
> 14:01:10 1658232
> 15:26:21 1747340
> 15:20:00 1411344
>
> At this point, nobody knows what this means but the OH guys!
>
> 73, Bill W4ZV
>From N5RP at pdq.net Mon Jul 15 11:55:10 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Telrex Rotator
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715105256.00b83a78@pop.pdq.net>
Contesters subscribed to this list given priority of purchase.
This is the one of fables !
Forget modified prop pitches.
Forget the new stuff that makes interesting claims.
This is the rotor that has turned countless log periodic antennas around
the world at military bases and embassy locations.
This unit may very well be the type of rotator that will never be built
again due to manufacturing expenses and extremely over-sized component
design parameters.
Manufactured by Telrex on 09/30/74
Never installed.
Every single component is still stored in their original box and wrapping
paper.
Rotor assembly is still mounted to the original shipping pallet from the
New Jersey factory.
Oil has never been added to gear box, and preservatives are still on the
main components.
Compass Rose indicator is brand new - Absolutely no scratches and even
smells new.
Selsyns have not been powered since initial factory assembly testings.
Included is 100' of cable for the initial run from shack to tower location.
Original manual in pristine condition.
All components are absolutely brand new with no compromise of condition.
This unit is like viewing a time capsule of technology and workmanship that
has not been replicated since.
Pictures available upon request, but I must open boxes to take same.
.............. $1,500.00
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From contesting at eircom.net Mon Jul 15 19:05:26 2002
From: contesting@eircom.net (Tim Makins, EI8IC)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A New Concept in Ham Maps
Message-ID: <001401c22c22$4185e780$e6a9a5c2@host>
People might be interested to see a new type of Ham Map, now available for
free on my website. It will be of use to all amateurs, whether HF or VHF
based.
The problem with ordinary web-based maps is that there is either too little
or too much information on the screen. I have just completed a map of
Europe, the first in a series of Overlay Maps, where YOU get to choose the
amount of information you have on display.
The following overlays are available:
Country Outlines, CQ Zones, ITU Zones, Time Zones, Grid Locators, Country
Names, Capital Cities, Prefixes, Flags.
You can chose which overlays are on display, the order they are displayed
in, and which one is on the top.
The map can be saved in the normal manner (File>Save As) for viewing
off-line, and it can be printed out with what ever overlays are active.
As the page is graphics-intensive (220kB) it takes approximately 30 seconds
to load with a 56kB modem, or 1 minute with a 28.2Kb modem. A pre-loader
page is provided as an entry point. The address is
http://www.qsl.net/ei8ic/grids/euro/preload.html
Or it can be accessed through the normal menu on my website.
IMPORTANT: THE MAP REQUIRES JAVASCRIPT TO BE ENABLED ON YOUR BROWSER.
IF YOU HAVE JAVASCRIPT TURNED OFF, IT WON'T WORK.
I welcome any comments or suggestions for other maps.
73s Tim EI8Ic
www.qsl.net/ei8ic/
HF and Budget Contesting Information Site.
More maps in this series will be added as time and resources allow. It takes
me about a week to make the map and its overlays. If you would like to
sponsor a map in this series, order a similar map of a particular area, or
need any other graphics processing or web-design ($80/page), please contact
me.
>From n2nu at arrl.net Mon Jul 15 15:01:35 2002
From: n2nu@arrl.net (John T. Fischer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
Message-ID: <002401c22c29$aa508480$2cc8060a@7911BXL20056>
I worked three maritime mobile stations in the IARU test and logged them as
xxnxxx/MM (e.g. SP2AVE/MM). In all cases, these were logged as 0 point
contacts in my version of WriteLog. I cannot find any reference at all to MM
stations in the rules, and I would think that these should be logged as 5
pointers since they were outside the continent and zone... In one case the
station gave me a new zone multiplier (which the program counts), even though
it was still logged as 0 points!
Clarification on the rules, anyone?
Thanks, John
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>From dhenderson at arrl.org Mon Jul 15 15:03:15 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RTTY Roundup Results Now Available Online
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC044F90EB@kahless.arrlhq.org>
The results for the 2002 ARRL RTTY Roundup are now available online to ARRL
members at:
www.arrl.org/contests/results
ARRL members must be logged on with the membership ID and password.
My hearty congratulations to Jay Townsend, WS7I, on an exceptionally well
done Web article. Also our thanks to Eddie Schneider, W6/G0AZT on a great
job of processing the logs and handling the log checking.
The results will also appear in the September QST. For non-ARRL members,
public online results are opened approximately 30 days after the results
appear in QST.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 15 12:08:02 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 15Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207151808.g6FI82i11147@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 15Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in the summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S LP
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW LP
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
VE9DX 739 0 266 300,048
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 37,609 FCG
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed LP
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
WN6K 344 338 91 15 211,575 SCCC
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed QRP
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB LP
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
Operators:
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 15 12:09:17 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 15Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207151809.g6FI9H111157@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 15Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in thsi summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA M/S HP
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW LP
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed HP
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB HP
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB LP
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
Operators:
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Mon Jul 15 15:12:49 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 Honor Roll
Message-ID: <20020715141249.K4998@cs.utexas.edu>
The W1AW/5 team appreciates the efforts of all Amateur Radio operators
that got on for the 2002 IARU HF World Championship and helped make it a
weekend to remember. With over 10,000 QSOs in the log, we would like to
especially recognize those who worked W1AW/5 on all 12 band-modes, on the
6 CW bands, or the 6 phone bands. Check out the W1AW/5 Honor Roll at the
Central Texas DX & Contest Club web site:
http://www.ctdxcc.org/
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Mon Jul 15 21:06:37 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Telrex Rotator
References: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715105256.00b83a78@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <3D332B4D.BD417655@directvinternet.com>
If someone is thinking of buying Bob's prop pitch, be warned there is
a LOCKING NUT on the rotator housing. Remove it before applying power.
Actually, in the one I had, I didn't know this. No matter, the rotor
just got up a little steam, and sheared it off like it wasn't there.
Not the best way.
):>
Ed
>From N5RP at pdq.net Mon Jul 15 16:42:55 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Telrex Rotator
In-Reply-To: <3D332B4D.BD417655@directvinternet.com>
References: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715105256.00b83a78@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715154010.00b99118@pop.pdq.net>
At 20:06 7/15/2002 +0000, K4SB wrote:
>If someone is thinking of buying Bob's prop pitch, be warned there is
>a LOCKING NUT on the rotator housing. Remove it before applying power.
====================>
The locking nut would still be on the unit.
>Actually, in the one I had, I didn't know this. No matter, the rotor
>just got up a little steam, and sheared it off like it wasn't there.
====================>
Guess that says it all - It will turn about anything .
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From Timothy.Urban at wc.ey.com Mon Jul 15 18:05:03 2002
From: Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com (Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
Message-ID: <OF2DE0EB34.2B77BCEA-ON85256BF7.00730B52@ey.com>
LIsters, etiquette question follows:
I worked another station on SSB during the IARU contest, the other op got
my callsign correct, but apparently mis-heard my ITU zone.
I said "five nine - zero eight", but the other op responded by saying "QSL
on your zone seven, QRZ de.....". I then replied "negative, zone 8" but
the other op had already sent "qrz" and begun working another station.
Propagation wasn't great and the other op didn't seem to hear my following
calls to fix the busted zone.
How concerned should I be? Should I try to re-contact the other op later
with a dupe hf contact during the contest to alert him to the busted zone?
I'm trying to be very conscientious but many of the other contesters
don't seem as obsessed with accuracy..........
73
Tim
N5IIT
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Mon Jul 15 18:09:12 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
In-Reply-To: <OF2DE0EB34.2B77BCEA-ON85256BF7.00730B52@ey.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715170515.00b875d8@pop.pdq.net>
At 17:05 7/15/2002 -0400, Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com wrote:
><snip>
>How concerned should I be? Should I try to re-contact the other op later
>with a dupe hf contact during the contest to alert him to the busted zone?
> I'm trying to be very conscientious but many of the other contesters
>don't seem as obsessed with accuracy........
==========================>
If you can work him again without too much effort, and without costing
yourself whatever contest asset(s) you consider important, do so.
I would scrub the busted 1st QSO from my log.
No matter what, QSO #1 was not completed, based upon what you were given as
an acknowledgement.
Welcome to contesting.
Set a standard for yourself that is proper, and enjoy it properly.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From aa4ga at contesting.com Mon Jul 15 19:24:47 2002
From: aa4ga@contesting.com (Lee Hiers)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
Message-ID: <3D33136F.4886.22C6C8B@localhost>
Every time I work this contest I work folks that don't know their
zone.
Let's say a W1 calls and tells me he's in zone 5.
I ask "what's your QTH?"
"Maine"
"OK, that's ITU zone 8"
"No, I'm in zone 5"
Or some similar discourse.
So, how do you log it / count points?
73 de Lee
--
Lee Hiers, AA4GA
Cornelia, Georgia
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Mon Jul 15 19:35:10 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
References: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715170515.00b875d8@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <3D334E1E.2C303EA6@gte.net>
"Bob, N5RP" wrote:
> If you can work him again without too much effort, and without
> costing yourself whatever contest asset(s) you consider important,
> do so.
More than likely, you'll get "QSO B4 QRZ" and be SOL for a second QSO
(which again, is a reason to work dupes ... just in case one of the two
made an error).
> I would scrub the busted 1st QSO from my log. No matter what,
> QSO #1 was not completed, based upon what you were given as an
> acknowledgement.
On the other hand, if you count the QSO ... you'll get credit for it ...
he'll lose and get penalized for it as a busted QSO!
The guy sort of deserves that because:
a) not getting the info correct the first time and
b) probably not going to work you a second time for a "good" QSO
As Bob said "Set a standard for yourself that is proper, and enjoy it
properly". Whatever way you go, at least be consistent.
Ron
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Mon Jul 15 19:40:36 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
Message-ID: <3D334F64.4C84294C@gte.net>
After all the pre-WRTC hype ...
it's now after 1:30 AM in OH land ... 7 1/2 hours after the Awards
Dinner.
Who won?
What teams were behind the OJ calls?
Waiting to find out ...
Ron, WD4AHZ
>From Jimk8mr at aol.com Mon Jul 15 20:01:23 2002
From: Jimk8mr@aol.com (Jimk8mr@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
Message-ID: <197.9bf7121.2a64ae43@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/15/2002 6:55:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wd4ahz@gte.net
writes:
> it's now after 1:30 AM in OH land ... 7 1/2 hours after the Awards Dinner.
>
> Who won?
>
Of all the people in the world, I thought you guys in Florida would
understand having to wait... and wait... and wait... for the results from a
close contest. :-)
Only 36 and 2/3 days to go.
Jim K8MR
(Also waiting to hear)
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>From llindblom at juno.com Tue Jul 16 00:10:21 2002
From: llindblom@juno.com (Larry L Lindblom)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NAQP RTTY
Message-ID: <20020715.231021.-397105.3.LLindblom@juno.com>
If your thinking about playing in NAQP RTTY why not double you pleasure
double your fun and sign on for a team. By playing on a team you compete
in both the single op and team competition. For me playing on a team
adds a new lever of enjoyment to this fun event.
Those signed on so far to play on a team with TCG include:
K4GKM
K4RO
W4BCG
N1NB
KE4OAR
N2WK
W5CTV
If your expressed interest and your call is missing from the list, please
resend your message.
I will put together as many teams as there are interested players.
E-mail me direct if you want to sign of to a team
You will notice my own call is lacking from the list. This is because
the frequency tuning in my main rig died and the backup rig suddenly
seems to have almost zero power output. You might say in was a lousy
weekend here in the IARU test. I have serious doubt about getting one of
these rigs going by this Saturday. If I do count me in, if I don't I'll
cheer all the TCG team players on from the sidelines.
73 W0ETC
>From kd4d at comcast.net Mon Jul 15 21:47:13 2002
From: kd4d@comcast.net (Mark Bailey)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
References: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715170515.00b875d8@pop.pdq.net>
<3D334E1E.2C303EA6@gte.net>
Message-ID: <015801c22c62$53a9f6a0$6501a8c0@Mark1>
Hello, all:
"QSO B4 QRZ" mystifies me. Or, maybe, "B4 PJ2M"
or "DUPE PJ2M" or whatever, which seems more efficient.
Why would the run station EVER send this?
Is the run station going to send QSO B4 and then WAIT for
an answer and start to negotiate? This appears to make sense
only in the rare contest where both stations are penalized for
an error. And, it's not QSO B4 QRZ?, its QSO B4 (wait for
answer).
There are only three cases :-) :
Case 1: The S&P station busted the call the first time.
If he's serious, he'll probably argue about it, especially if you
are a multiplier. It will take longer to look up and send a QSO
time or whatever than to just complete another QSO. You
don't get penalized for a duplicate QSO in your log, and he'll
get credit at least for the second QSO. (Of course, both of
you log ALL QSO's). He gets penalized for the first bad QSO
but you don't.
Case 2: You busted his call the first time.
Well, you lose credit for the initial QSO whatever happens, unless
you spend a lot of time negotiating with the other station and
figuring out what happened. However, working him again then
gives YOU a good QSO. You get the penalty for the bad
initial QSO anyway.
Case 3: Other!
It's another mistake. Who knows? :-) Computer or operator
confusion? Busted packet spot? Maybe the other station
realizes the error and doesn't send anything else. Still, completing
and logging the QSO benefits the run station and is just about as
fast as listening to the other station sending "SRI" or whatever.
They always seem to send "SRI", right on top of a weak
multiplier calling you. :-)
BTW, Operator confusion can affect the running station too.
So, why would anyone EVER send QSO B4 QRZ?
Maybe in Sweepstakes, with the long exchange?
But, then negotiation starts to seem appealing...so you
send "QSO B4" and wait for the response.
Still slower than just completing the QSO! And, it isn't
sending "QSO B4 QRZ?."
Awaiting enlightenment...
73,
Mark, KD4D
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Wetjen" <wd4ahz@gte.net>
To: "Bob, N5RP" <N5RP@pdq.net>
Cc: <Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
> "Bob, N5RP" wrote:
>
> > If you can work him again without too much effort, and without
> > costing yourself whatever contest asset(s) you consider important,
> > do so.
>
> More than likely, you'll get "QSO B4 QRZ" and be SOL for a second QSO
> (which again, is a reason to work dupes ... just in case one of the two
> made an error).
>
> > I would scrub the busted 1st QSO from my log. No matter what,
> > QSO #1 was not completed, based upon what you were given as an
> > acknowledgement.
>
> On the other hand, if you count the QSO ... you'll get credit for it ...
> he'll lose and get penalized for it as a busted QSO!
>
> The guy sort of deserves that because:
>
> a) not getting the info correct the first time and
> b) probably not going to work you a second time for a "good" QSO
>
> As Bob said "Set a standard for yourself that is proper, and enjoy it
> properly". Whatever way you go, at least be consistent.
>
> Ron
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>From kr1g at hotmail.com Tue Jul 16 03:21:19 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
Message-ID: <F75gJyjX1VThKL3XUK900013a00@hotmail.com>
For obvious screwups, like the W1in zone 5 or the DL in zone 15 I log the
"correct" zone. For the RK4 in zone 30, the UN in zone 31 etc, I log what
they send me - hey, they might be right!
for the record, I only "corrected" one zone. Theoretically, I should have
engaged the OM/YL in a lively CW discourse explaining that the exchange was
IARU zone not CQ zone, but my CW (other than contestese) is not so hot and
they probably wouldn't have understood me anyways :)
73
Ted KT1V
PS: Anyone know how closely the logs get checked? Not that it should effect
proper behavior! but just curious. I detailed UBN would be great
>From: "Lee Hiers" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
>To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
>
>Every time I work this contest I work folks that don't know their
>zone.
>
>Let's say a W1 calls and tells me he's in zone 5.
>
>I ask "what's your QTH?"
>
>"Maine"
>
>"OK, that's ITU zone 8"
>
>"No, I'm in zone 5"
>
>Or some similar discourse.
>
>So, how do you log it / count points?
>
>73 de Lee
>
>
>--
>Lee Hiers, AA4GA
>Cornelia, Georgia
>
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Tue Jul 16 00:24:32 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC mail box full
Message-ID: <00ad01c22c78$4e4a8740$2d1045cf@default>
A problem has been reported by a local SECC member. He got this
message......
Copy=============
Anyone else but me have their WRTC log submission
rejected due to lack of room in the recipient's
mailbox?
Dick K2UFT
End================
Someone needs to get a message to them that there are probably logs rejected
all over the place. Dick worked 47 OJ stations!
73 Dave K4JRB
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Mon Jul 15 23:39:15 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
In-Reply-To: <197.9bf7121.2a64ae43@aol.com>
Message-ID: <MCBBJAHBAIHDJKDNKBBIEEHBCAAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
What AHZ asked for was who was who among the OJ calls...
Is this what you are after, Jim....
http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/pos.pl?hpng=WRTC
73,
dale, kg5u
>
> In a message dated 7/15/2002 6:55:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> wd4ahz@gte.net
> writes:
>
>
> > it's now after 1:30 AM in OH land ... 7 1/2 hours after the
> Awards Dinner.
> >
> > Who won?
> >
>
>
> Of all the people in the world, I thought you guys in Florida would
> understand having to wait... and wait... and wait... for the
> results from a
> close contest. :-)
>
> Only 36 and 2/3 days to go.
>
>
> Jim K8MR
>
> (Also waiting to hear)
>
>
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>From bhorn at hornucopia.com Mon Jul 15 22:21:25 2002
From: bhorn@hornucopia.com (Bruce Horn)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
In-Reply-To: <3D334F64.4C84294C@gte.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020715211916.00b05c18@hornucopia.com>
At 06:40 PM 7/15/2002 -0400, Ron Wetjen wrote:
>Who won?
The official top five and photos of the awards ceremony are available on
the NCJ web site:
http://www.ncjweb.com/
I assume complete results will soon be available on the official WRTC 2002
web site.
73 de Bruce, WA7BNM (bhorn@hornucopia.com)
>From k6km at cncnet.com Mon Jul 15 22:52:45 2002
From: k6km@cncnet.com (Bill)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
References: <20020712213837.HVSX20539.fep06-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.110]>
Message-ID: <3D33A69D.9470A48E@cncnet.com>
Hei OH-land!
What is happening there?
Please tell us supporters of WRTC02 WHO WON the
competition!
Obviously there were some scoring problems, most
notably with N6TJ and N6AA. PLEASE tell us why their
score decreased as time passed; that should not be possible.
PLEASE tell us why the N5KO/9V1YC score went
flat in the last few hours.
PLEASE tell us which teams were associated with which
OJ callsigns!
PLEASE tell us what's going on. To me, the delay in
reporting results means that POLITICS is coming in
to play and POLITICS may be more meaningful than
PERFORMANCE in determing the final results.
PLEASE prove me wrong.
As any one might expect, Team Finland did a wonderful
job preparing for and hosting WRTC 2002. Thank you
for that. But WHY have you kept the world in ignorance
as to the results?
PLEASE TELL US WOT's UP!
Bill K6KM
also OH2/K6KM and OH0/K6KM
>From 107770.3462 at compuserve.com Tue Jul 16 02:17:05 2002
From: 107770.3462@compuserve.com (James P. Cassidy)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QSO B4
Message-ID: <200207160117_MC3-1-693-9387@compuserve.com>
I had a really good experience with one station in the IARU regarding QSO
B4. He sent SRI QSO B4, I said no and he went ahead and worked me again.
Worked OK for both and didn't take much longer than just working again
without the message. I am sure I hadn't QSOed B4 as the computer logging
dupe check handles that and also I had not made that many Qs that I
wouldn't have remembered.
73 Jim KI7Y
>From ken.knopp at verizon.net Tue Jul 16 00:51:51 2002
From: ken.knopp@verizon.net (Ken K7ZUM)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W7GG, THREE RIVERS FIRE, I.A.R.U. 2002..... LONG
Message-ID: <004b01c22c95$43bffcc0$6401a8c0@dslverizon.net>
Hi All, thought I'd write about an experience I had over the weekend doing
the I.A.R.U. contest from W7GG'S central Oregon
contest location, as it will be one that will most defineteley stand out as one
that I will remember, and will be impossiable for us to forget !!
It started off friday morning still not knowing if W7GG was
going to do the test, as he had some sort of bug and was not feeling real well,
but being the intense competitor that he is, he went to the doc, got a pocket
full of medicine and gave me a call at my work QTH about 9:00 o'clock friday
morning saying he was headed over to the contest station and was going to give
it a try, and it should be no problem as he wanted to do c.w. (no talking, he
could save his voice) and my youngest son and I could do phone part, sounded
good to me ! but also to stick somewhat close to the 2 mtr radio as there was
a small lighting started forest fire north of his location, and he'd give me a
call and let me know the status of the fire after he got there.
Somewheres around 2 o'clock friday afternoon I got the call on 2
mtrs from Bob, fire did not look all of that bad, was about 5 miles from his
place, with a light wind blowing to the north, meaning away from his place, it
was also several ridges over, on the other side of Lake Billy Chinook, and on
the Indian reservation, we could see no problem, as have been over there with
them closer than that. So the contest was on, I'd get off of work, pick up my
youngest son, pack the truck and make the 2-1/2 hr 129 mile drive from
Gresham Ore to three rivers. It should be a good time, and we would get a
chance to check out all of the antenna
work that we had done a few months ago. I also got ahold of my dx-ped partner,
Craig, AH8DX/W7, and let him know the contest was on, and that we would be
heading over to Bob's place, and he was more than welcome to come over and use
my station for the test.
To those of you who have worked W7GG,AI7B or WW7OR over the
years and have wondered about his big signal, let me give a little run down on
his contest QTH, Three Rivers is a gated community, way out in the "pucker
brush" (literally) in the high desert of central Oregon, about 25 miles west of
a small town called Culver, basically a vacation resort, with a few
homes,mobile homes, trailer houses,etc, most people come over for the weekend,
with a few living there all year roung, there is no running water, no
commercial power, (nearest commercial power is about 20 miles away) no flushing
toilets, except the ones you make for yourself ! etc. etc. water is bought and
stored on site, electric power at W7GG's place is either solar,wind
mills,diesel or propane powered generators, towers and antenna's are many, 190
ft. rotating tower with 2 stacked full sized 3 element 40 mtr beams, stacked
kt34xa's, 80 and 160 mtr wire 4 squares, 165 ft tower with stacked mono-band
yagis for 20,15 and 10 mtrs, 125 ft tower with several other yagis, 100 ft.
tower with another tribander, windmills, solar paners, etc. on it, that covers
most of the antennas, He has this all situated on about 5 acres, and it is a
very nice place to retire to on a weekend and play radio, so when you hear
W7GG on the air handing out Q's, it is at great expense to Bob.
So, it was up over Mt Hood, and into central Oregon for what I
hoped would be an uneventful drive, but my youngest son was driving, and
anything could happen!!! ( it didn't, he did a good job on the way over) By
the time we came up out of Warm Springs and onto the flats into Madras, the sun
was going down over the mountains, and we got a good look at the small forest
fire
off in the distance, smoke was drifting to the north, which was good, as we
were going to be south of it. So It was on into Madras, follow the signs to
Lake Billy Chinook, and keep my eyes on the fire.
By the time we got to the top of the canyon road that drops you
down into Lake Billy Chinook it was dark, and that little bitty forest fire
was looking a little on the menancing side, we were still about 20 miles away,
so down into the canyon we went, over two very, very narrow suspension bridges
and climbed up out of the canyon, once on top, we got our first real look at
that little bitty forest fire, it was no longer just menancing looking, it was
damn scary looking, and we were headed right for it !
I called bob on 2 mtrs and tried to describe what I was seeing, he sounded a
little concerned, and said that it was still 4 to 5 miles north west of him,
with a very mild breeze blowing to the north away from him, so it should still
be no problem, I said we'd be there soon, and signed off, It was about then
that I noticed that my normally lead footed 15 yr old son was looking out the
windshield at the fire in front of us,mouth open, and eyes opened even wider !
and going very slow ! ! I knew he was just as stunned as I was, I just looked
at him and said, I dont think were going to be doing much contesting this
weekend, were probally going to Bob's place and packing the truck's up and
getting the heck out of there. I don't think in the fifteen years that I have
been lucky enough to have Jordan as my son, that I have ever seen him agree
more quickly to anything I have ever said !
By the time we got to the main gate to pick up a pass to go
onto Three Rivers property, the normally empty parking lot was full of fire
trucks, heavy earth moving equipment, fire fighters, etc., and the fire was a
site to behold, the entire night sky to the northwest of where I was standing
had the most sureal, eerie orange "glow" that I have ever seen
I went in to get a pass, came back out, stood in awe, and looked at the fire
in the sky, made a few choice four letter "observations", and was already
planning in my mind what I could pack in my little truck and how I could get it
in, just in case they gave the word to evacuate.
Made the mile or so drive from the main gate to Bobs place and
pulled into his property, Meet Bob outside, parked the truck and we sat on the
outside deck and made plans of what we should do if we had to leave in a hurry,
all the while looking to the northwest at the "orange glow" coming over the top
of the tree's.
By now, there was no breeze, some cloud cover, and we could smell no "smoke"
that was about 10:00 o'clock in the evening,
by 11:00 we decided to try and get some sleep, only problem was, it was too hot
to sleep in the house, and it was still 94 degrees outside !!!! So for Jordan
and me, It was make a bed out on the deck and try and sleep in just shorts !
by midnight I knew it was going to be a long hot,semi sleepless night ! and
what was worse, was that every little breeze that came along, I found myself
trying to determine what direction, north, south,east,west, is there smoke on
that breeze, can I hear the tell tale sounds of burning trees, and on and on,
and then there was that eerie "orange" glow from the fire, it was reflecting
off of the cloud cover and everything I could see had an "orange" glow to it,
trees, grass, house, towers,antennas, gravel, etc, literally everything ! was
very un-nerving ! At one point Jordan got up, had a white t-shirt on, walked
by me, and he was even "glowing orange" !!!!
It was somewhere's around 3 o'clock in the morning that I noticed that the
"glow" was no longer around, got up, looked to the northwest, and could no
longer see much of anything, no smoke rising, no orange glow, laid back down
and finally fell asleep with the thoughts that the fire was dying out, and the
firefighters had it under control, I felt much better, and actually got about 3
hours worth of sleep !
bob was up at 4:30, ready to start the test at 5:00, he
started out on 40 c.w. with JA5ING/1 first in the log at 5:06 a.m. local time.
By the time I got up with several cups of coffe in me to try and shake off my
restless night,and take a peek around the side of the house to check on the
fire, ( hurray, looked like it was pretty much gone out ! ) there was 210 Q's
in the log,
We traded seats and I started off of 20 mtr ssb, with N0NI first in the log at
7:57 a.m. local, made a total of 13 q's on 20 ssb and decided that was not the
place to be, last q's on 20 that morning was W1AW/5 at 8:25 a.m. local, bad
rates !
15 mtrs sounded much, much better, with W6XR first in the log,
europe was open and was answering my c.q.'s !
so for the next hour and a half or so, I ran and ran, watching the rate meter
at times aproaching 185 q's, not bad, not bad at all for way out here in
Oregon ! And then I had something happen to me that I have read about many
times over the years, about 9:30 local time ( 14:30 utc) I was calling c.q.
with the voice keyer, I heard something, stopped, and heard the tail end of a
c.q. message, what I heard was, seven germany germany contest ! I had
thought it a little odd for a split secound, and then realized that was my
VOICE ! my first long delayed echo ??
Bob walked into the shack at about 10:00 a.m. local, looked at
the rates I was having on 15 phone, and I could see by the look in his eye's (
plus the drool coming out of the side of his mouth !) that he wanted some of
the action, I took a break and let Bob run some c.w. went into the kitchen,
grabbed a cup of coffee, walked out the back door to check on the fire, and
everything looked just fine ! no smoke, no clouds, no fire ! looked like we
were gonna have a great time this weekend after all !
by 11:00 a.m. local time, I looked out the south window of the
shack and noticed that it was getting hard to see the big tower about 400
hundred feet away, and the smell of burning wood was starting to come into the
shack ! I took one look at Bob, and he looked at me as I was putting down my
drink, letting Bob know I was going to go and check things out.
Grabbed a set of binocoulrs on the way out of the house, headed
over to the pole barn, grabbed a climbing belt and headed out to the small
tower to the northwest of the property, up the tower I went and hooked on at
about 60-70 ft., well above the tree line and took a peek, by then there was so
much low lying smoke in all directions, it was hard to tell where it was coming
from, but with a little bit of squinting, I could see that it was coming from
the northwest, so far it looked like a smouldering camp fire, and from what I
could see, was still about 4-5 miles away. Down the tower I went, into the
shack and discussed what I had seen with Bob, we had heard nothing from the
main gate about evacuation, so decided to to worry just yet.
By 11:45 a.m. local time we had looked out the window and noticed
there was a slight breeze coming from the south, and had cleared out all of the
smoke ! GREAT ! no clouds, no smoke, a slight breeze from the south, and the
europeans were just booming in on 15 mtrs ! things were looking up ! it was
also getting close to 90 degrees F. ! We traded off and I ran europe for about
another hour or so, By 12:00 or so in the afternoon, the temperature in the
shack was somewhere around 94 degrees, and that was with two box fans going,
one 20 inch box fan was in the west window of the shack, and we both noticed at
about the same time, that the fan was speeding up and slowing down, and it
wasn't due to voltage variations from the diesel generator, Our slight
southern breeze had changed directions and was now coming from the worst
possiable direction, out of the northwest, and it was no longer a "slight
breeze".
We traded off at 12:15 p.m. local, europe still booming in on
15 mtr c.w., I went to the kitchen to grab something cold to drink and find
something to snack on and walked out the back door to check on the fire, by now
I could see some smoke rising above the trees, but not coming at us, was
starting to worry a little bit, as the wind was really starting to pick up, and
it was really gettin hot ! it had to be somewheres over a hundred outside, with
no humidity.
Went back into the shack at 1:15 p.m. to take over, noticed
that the temp in the shack was getting close to 98 deg. F.
seen bob had changed to 20 c.w., so decided to try 20 phone and put in some
much needed q's on that band, by 1:40 p.m. decided that 20 was not producing
well, and went back to 15 phone for a little S&P, first in was TA3D at 1:49
p.m. local, did a little more S & P'ing, and found my first JA, JA4DPL at
1:52 p.m. local, now I decided it was time to reposition antenna's, turn the
TB-6 to the U.S., turn the rotating tower with the stacked KT-34-XA's to JA
land, and use WX0B's six pack box ( the fun switch) to switch between the fixed
european stack, U.S. antenna and JA antenna's, now it was time to really rock
and roll ! as I had the whole world to work, europe was still booming in, U.S.
was booming in, a few south americans, and the J.A. and deep Russians were
starting to roll !
At 2:00 p.m. local time, Craig, AH8DX\W7 checked in from my
station in Gresham, we exchanged numbers and info, he asked how it was going, I
had stated that we were starting to really worry about the fire to the north of
use, and was not sure how much longer we might be here, by then, the box fan in
the window was really howing, from my operating position, I could not see out
the window very well, but from the way the fan was howling, I was expecting at
any moment flames to be lapping around the corner ! we only had at that time,
614 q's in the log, it had been somewhat difficult to concentrate on the
contest, and was getting harder and harder to concentrate on the contest. the
temperature in the shack was now at 99.9 deg. F., and it was much hotter
outside.
Another 22 minutes went by and I had put another 40 q's in the
log, my son had showed up at my side, stating that he had been up at the front
gate talking to a firefighter who had said that if you had and personal
belongings, you had better start packing them and be prepared to get out. I had
stopped and took a call on two meters from one of the other hams that live on
the property, so far he had not heard anything from the front gate about
evacuating. About that time, bob walked into the shack, we all sat and
discussed what to do next, I thought that maybe the best thing to do for the
time being, was to grab the binoculours and a climbing belt and go back up the
little tower and take another peek at the fire. All agreed that this would give
us some sort of go\no go. So out the door I went, over to the tower, and up I
went. This particular tower I can only climb up on the north face of it, so at
about the 65-70 ft level, I clipped on, grabbed for the binoculours, turned
around, and damned near dropped the binocs !! this time I did not need them,
as what I saw put a chill up my spine, and stood the hair up on the back of my
neck !
What I was looking at, was no longer just a smoldering fire, it
was a raging, wind whipped, out of control wild fire, with huge billowing
clouds of smoke, what was worse, it was no longer 4-5 miles away, it was maybe
2, and heading southeast, pretty much right for use, what was even worse than
that, was a fire had spread south of the main fire, and IT WAS heading for us !
by this time, the winds were whipped up to around 30 or so miles per hour.
I have always thought it rather unusual as to some of the
things I remember in times of stress like this, and it seemed rather odd to me,
that standing up on that tower, watching this raging fire, and thinking about
watching an interview several years ago of the commanding officer of Clark Air
Force base in the Phillippines after the volcano there covered up the air base,
A reporter had asked him what indication he had, as to when to evacuate, his
answer was when he seen a young seargeant running by him, yelling, General, I
hope you gots some Jam in your pocket, as were about to be "toast" ! then he
knew it was time to leave !
and me, like the General, I sure wasn't much intrested in becoming "toast", so
it was unclip myself from the tower, with Bob barreling out the back door of
the house, saying we gots to GO ! and from 65 ft or so up, I don't think it
took me 30 secounds before my feet hit the ground at a dead run for the house,
now it was time to try and decide what to save.
It was now about 2:45 p.m. local, as we headed for the shack
to try and save as much as possiable before the fire hit, we had maybe 2 hrs, 3
tops, I shut the computers off, noticed that we only had 661 q's in the log,
with JA6FMR being the last one at 21:36 UTC. Bob, Jordan and I had a short
conversation with what to start with, was easy, the most expensive equipment
first, I started unplugging all of the 1000 mike papa's, Bob and Jordan started
on all of the smaller radios, power supplies and brick amps, we started
stacking things on the front porch, from there, next was the Titan amps and
power supplies, next from there was the Henry amps, both little Henry, and big
Henry, by then we had quit a pile stacked up on the front porch, the next thing
to do was to back my little pickup up to the deck and start loading, mike
papa's, titans,power supplies,bricks,smaller radios into the back of the truck,
next was to try and get the big amps into the bed, and from there, start
shoving anything else that we could into it. At one point I remember looking up
at the temp gauge, 100.5 deg. F. no wonder the sweat was pouring out of use !
and that damn box fan in the window was still howling !
Don't ask me why, but for some reason or another, there was a
surplus of unused cardboard boxes, and thank god there was, as we used every
one of them shoving wallpaper,hard won contest plaques, family memories, stack
match boxes,six pack boxes, relay boxes, filters, top ten boxes, four square
boxes,monitors,computers, headphones,mics,footswitches,and anything else we
could shove in them, and when we ran out of boxes, we found some plastic boxes
full of linen, out went the linen, and in went the good stuff ! It was truly
amazing, in about an hour and a half, we had that shack pretty much torn down
to tables and chairs, and had pretty much gotten all of the equipment out, What
was even more amazing was when I went out the back door to check on the
progress of the fire, It was no longer "just" to the northwest of us, it was
still spreading towards use, but was also traveling at a very high rate to the
east, more or less parellel to us, and from what I could see, in the hour or so
I had last checked on it, it looked like it had gone maybe 3 miles, with
billowing smoke clouds that had to be reaching 25,000 plus feet, and streaching
from just about as far as I could see to the west, to as far as I could see to
the east, the sight of this made us move a little bit faster, as we still had
plenty to try and load up.
It was now about 4:15, and we had more to try and load, we
started loading motorcycles into Bob's truck, got them tied down, hitched up
his boat, and proceded to shove as much stuff as we could into his boat, and
front of his Truck.
another 45 minutes or so had passed, and we had pretty much decided that we had
all we were gonna get, my poor ole truck was so loaded, that it was pretty much
draggin the rear bumper, and the tires were just about half flat, was gonna be
a long slow ride home. Bob's truck was just about the same, don't think we
could have shoved to much more into it either !
It was now a little after 5:00 p.m. and was time to leave, we took another look
at the fire, it had grown even more, and looked as if it had traveled another 2
miles east, and now the smoke cloud was reminding me of what MT. ST. Helens
looked like when it blew its top 20 some odd years ago, not a pretty site !
As we were getting ready to leave, Jordan came up to me, and
with some pretty red and wet eyes, made the statement that this was just about
the saddest day of his life, and I could not help but think he was probally
right, as for the last five years this has been our radio contesting home, as
Bob and his wife Laverna have been gracious hosts to my two boys and I, we have
gone there and played radio so many times in the last five years that the
contests are becoming a blurr, we have had nothing but great times and great
memories at the Three Rivers Contest Club, to think that it could be over with
and that the next time that we see the place, it could be nothing more than
"toast" it was just a little to mind numbing. About all I could do was give him
a hug, let him know that there was nothing we could do at the moment, and just
hope for the best. it was time to go.
Here I am writing this late sunday evening, and still no word on
what if anything has happened to W7GG'S place, they are not letting anybody in,
and the news reports don't look all of that good, fire is still spreading.
for those of you that would like to send a kind word of two to Bob, here's his
e-mail address:
bob.wrubble@verizon.net
vy 73...... Ken....... K7ZUM........ FS/K7ZUM........ PJ7/K7ZUM
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>From n2mg at eham.net Tue Jul 16 08:14:24 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
References: <3D33136F.4886.22C6C8B@localhost>
Message-ID: <007b01c22cb9$f1c533c0$3201a8c0@mikehome>
In the conversation below, you have already engaged in a somewhat extended
dialog (for a contest) - why not finish it and tell him, "This contest is
the IARU contest and uses IARU zones which are different from CQ zones.
You're definitely in Zone 8." ? Then log him as such. If he asks for more
info, send him to the ARRL website.
I log what I think is correct - usually that's whatever the guy sent, but
when you know better, well...
73 Mike N2MG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Hiers" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:24 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
> Every time I work this contest I work folks that don't know their
> zone.
>
> Let's say a W1 calls and tells me he's in zone 5.
>
> I ask "what's your QTH?"
>
> "Maine"
>
> "OK, that's ITU zone 8"
>
> "No, I'm in zone 5"
>
> Or some similar discourse.
>
> So, how do you log it / count points?
>
> 73 de Lee
>
>
> --
> Lee Hiers, AA4GA
> Cornelia, Georgia
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Jul 16 08:17:27 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Drugs @ WRTC - final results?
Message-ID: <004501c22cba$5e327720$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
...there is a rumor circulating around the West Coast that N6AA and N6TJ were
penalized for using performance enhancing drugs in WRTC - belive there is a
factual error however...
Rather than the supposed drug, Geritol...I believe it was actually Icy-Hot
being rubbed on their sending hands.
Sure wish the Finns would update the WRTC site, suspect the awards ceremony was
one kb party and they are still trashed - do have some insider info but the
rest of the World and all of the Florida Contest Group has been glued to their
web page for two days now - and the winner is?
73,
Jim, K4OJ
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Tue Jul 16 12:26:48 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 2002 Results
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020716102648.01310e9c@pop.vnet.net>
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Jul 16 08:39:08 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #255 - 11 msgs
References: <200207161121.g6GBLc5r004184@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <009301c22cbd$65e458a0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
here are the first web photos of Dan and his partner Jeff at the
ceremonies....
>Who won?
The official top five and photos of the awards ceremony are available on
the NCJ web site:
http://www.ncjweb.com/
I assume complete results will soon be available on the official WRTC 2002
web site.
>From k1ir at designet.com Tue Jul 16 09:16:40 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W7GG - thinking of you
Message-ID: <n3rhgxem6xm8eln.160720020816@designet-jsi>
Thanks to Ken's first-person account of your experience this weekend, I was
able to understand just a bit of what you must be going through. Sure hope you
emerge from this "ok".
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 16 10:09:28 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
References: <20020712213837.HVSX20539.fep06-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.110]>
<3D33A69D.9470A48E@cncnet.com>
Message-ID: <3D341B08.8BED670B@gte.net>
Bill wrote:
> Please tell us supporters of WRTC02 WHO WON the
> competition!
Here are the Top 5
1 N5TJ/K1TO
2 RA3AUU/RV1AW
3 DL2CC/DL6FBL
4 N6MJ/N2NL
5 KQ2M/W7WA
> Obviously there were some scoring problems, most
> notably with N6TJ and N6AA. PLEASE tell us why their
> score decreased as time passed; that should not be possible.
>From gm3woj at talk21.com Tue Jul 16 14:48:35 2002
From: gm3woj@talk21.com (Chris Tran GM3WOJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 results
Message-ID: <000301c22cc7$1f47abe0$6499fea9@chris.tranbtinternet.com>
Probably everyone will post this info., but the
final results + list of who was using which OJ callsign
is now at
http://www.wrtc2002.org/results.htm
73
Chris GM3WOJ
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 16 11:03:18 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC FINAL RESULTS
Message-ID: <3D3427A6.2B582239@gte.net>
THE FINAL RESULTS OF WRTC2002:
1. OJ3A N5TJ/K1TO 438/2782 = 1.629.798
2. OJ8E RA3AUU/RV1AW 426/2627 = 1.619.226
3. OJ2V DL2CC/DL6FBL 473/2468 = 1.608.673
4. OJ3R N6MJ/N2NL 436/2705 = 1.560.008
5. OJ8K KQ2M/W7WA 394/2816 = 1.479.470
6. OJ5A VE3EJ/VE7ZO 437/2635 = 1.473.127
7. OJ1M K5ZD/K1KI 457/2519 = 1.469.255
8. OJ6E UT4UZ/UT3UA 416/2637 = 1.468.064
9. OJ5W LY1DS/LY2TA 416/2638 = 1.459.744
10. OJ5M DK3GI/DL1IAO 440/2534 = 1.456.840
11. OJ6W OE2VEL/OE9MON 416/2560 = 1.436.448
12. OJ6C RW1AC/RW3QC 395/2776 = 1.414.100
13. OJ5U N6RT/N2NT 432/2435 = 1.412.640
14. OJ8W 9A9A/9A5E 373/2778 = 1.405.837
15. OJ7M SP3RBR/SP8NR 403/2650 = 1.402.440
16. OJ2F N6TJ/N6AA 397/2428 = 1.391.088
17. OJ3T RZ9UA/UA9MA 395/2708 = 1.390.795
18. OJ2H N5RZ/K2UA 410/2559 = 1.388.670
19. OJ8A K1AR/K1DG 432/2382 = 1.382.400
20. OJ2J HA1AG/HA3OV 408/2602 = 1.368.432
21. OJ3N N2IC/K6LL 405/2513 = 1.355.940
22. OJ4M K3LR/N9RV 366/2642 = 1.347.612
23. OJ3D W4AN/K4BAI 389/2530 = 1.347.107
24. OJ2Y UA2FZ/RW4WR 421/2389 = 1.331.623
25. OJ4N ON6TT/ON4WW 416/2260 = 1.301.248
26. OJ2Q YU7BW/YU1ZZ 381/2743 = 1.300.734
27. OJ6X OH1MDR/OH1MM 438/2267 = 1.293.414
28. OJ7C ES5MC/ES2RR 393/2505 = 1.288.254
29. OJ2Z G4PIQ/G4BWP 419/2342 = 1.277.950
30. OJ6N OK2FD/OK2ZU 379/2446 = 1.274.577
31. OJ1S SP7GIQ/SP2FAX 371/2498 = 1.234.317
32. OJ5T SM5IMO/SM3SGP 386/2381 = 1.214.742
33. OJ7X S50A/S59AA 379/2542 = 1.210.147
34. OJ4S JM1CAX/JE1JKL 392/2289 = 1.205.008
35. OJ7N YL2KL/YL3DW 382/2392 = 1.196.424
36. OJ3X 5B4ADA/5B4WN 386/2310 = 1.186.950
37. OJ7S N5KO/N1YC 389/2177 = 1.142.882
38. OJ1X K1ZM/N6ZZ 370/2354 = 1.139.230
39. OJ5E OH6EI/OH2XX 402/2059 = 1.131.630
40. OJ1F NT1N/AG9A 397/2101 = 1.105.645
41. OJ5Z F6FGZ/F5NLY 375/2016 = 1.086.750
42. OJ8N YT1AD/YU7NU 359/2335 = 1.069.820
43. OJ7W UA9BA/RN9AO 368/2168 = 1.052.480
44. OJ6K VE7SV/VE7AHA 351/2257 = 1.045.980
45. OJ4A DJ6QT/DL2OBF 347/2166 = 1.005.259
46. OJ1C LU7DW/LU1FAM 322/2335 = 986.930
47. OJ7A PP5JR/PY1KN 333/2263 = 978.021
48. OJ1N EA3AIR/EA3KU 340/2140 = 954.380
49. OJ8L S56M/S57AL 345/1920 = 883.545
50. OJ1W ZS6EZ/ZS4TX 369/1723 = 880.065
51. OJ6Y IK2QEI/I4UFH 339/1921 = 878.349
52. OJ4W UN9LW/UN7LAN 297/1893 = 699.732
Some software used by teams did not count multipliers correctly.
This is the reason why some claimed scores were changed just after
the contest on the scoreboard.
>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Tue Jul 16 15:16:55 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 FINAL RESULTS
Message-ID: <01c22cba$4b3b1e60$LocalHost@default>
The final results of WRTC2002 can be found at www.wrtc2002.org
There'll be more writeups coming up in the near future.
73 Ari, OH1EH
>From n2mg at eham.net Tue Jul 16 12:31:32 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
Message-ID: <200207161431.g6GEVV5r006366@contesting.com>
That page only shows the team mates' calls.
Try this
http://www.wrtc2002.org/results.htm
-Mike N2MG
The following me
ssage was sent by "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org> on Mon, 15 Jul 2002
22:39:15 -0500.
>
> What AHZ asked for was who was who among the OJ calls...
>
> Is this what you are after, Jim....
>
> http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/pos.pl?hpng=WRTC
>
> 73,
> dale, kg5u
>
> >
> > In a message dated 7/15/2002 6:55:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > wd4ahz@gte.net
> > writes:
> >
> >
> > > it's now after 1:30 AM in OH land ... 7 1/2 hours after the
> > Awards Dinner.
> > >
> > > Who won?
> > >
> >
> >
> > Of all the people in the world, I thought you guys in Florida would
> > understand having to wait... and wait... and wait... for the
> > results from a
> > close contest. :-)
> >
> > Only 36 and 2/3 days to go.
> >
> >
> > Jim K8MR
> >
> > (Also waiting to hear)
> >
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>From ken.knopp at verizon.net Tue Jul 16 08:58:25 2002
From: ken.knopp@verizon.net (Ken K7ZUM)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] correction on w7gg's address, three rivers fire
Message-ID: <001601c22cd9$3d05a260$6401a8c0@dslverizon.net>
I have been corrected on W7GG'S e-mail address,
if anybody would like to send a note to Bob about the three rivers fire and his
contest station
the correct address is bob.wruble@verizon.net
was late sunday evening, and I was well pooped out from the weekend experience
!!
73.... Ken.... K7ZUM
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>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Tue Jul 16 16:40:15 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Results - Shortened Version
Message-ID: <01c22cc5$ef48cba0$LocalHost@default>
THE FINAL RESULTS OF WRTC2002:
1. OJ3A N5TJ/K1TO 438/2782 = 1.629.798
2. OJ8E RA3AUU/RV1AW 426/2627 = 1.619.226
3. OJ2V DL2CC/DL6FBL 473/2468 = 1.608.673
4. OJ3R N6MJ/N2NL 436/2705 = 1.560.008
5. OJ8K KQ2M/W7WA 394/2816 = 1.479.470
6. OJ5A VE3EJ/VE7ZO 437/2635 = 1.473.127
7. OJ1M K5ZD/K1KI 457/2519 = 1.469.255
8. OJ6E UT4UZ/UT3UA 416/2637 = 1.468.064
9. OJ5W LY1DS/LY2TA 416/2638 = 1.459.744
10.OJ5M DK3GI/DL1IAO 440/2534 = 1456.840
11.OJ6W OE2VEL/OE9MON 416/2560 = 1.436.448
12.OJ6C RW1AC/RW3QC 395/2776 = 1.414.100
13.OJ5U N6RT/N2NT 432/2435 = 1.412.640
14.OJ8W 9A9A/9A5E 373/2778 = 1.405.837
15.OJ7M SP3RBR/SP8NR 403/2650 = 1.402.440
16.OJ2F N6TJ/N6AA 397/2428 = 1.391.088
17.OJ3T RZ9UA/UA9MA 395/2708 = 1.390.795
18.OJ2H N5RZ/K2UA 410/2559 = 1.388.670
19.OJ8A K1AR/K1DG 432/2382 = 1.382.400
20.OJ2J HA1AG/HA3OV 408/2602 = 1.368.432
21.OJ3N N2IC/K6LL 405/2513 = 1.355.940
22.OJ4M K3LR/N9RV 366/2642 = 1.347.612
23.OJ3D W4AN/K4BAI 389/2530 = 1.347.107
24.OJ2Y UA2FZ/RW4WR 421/2389 = 1.331.623
25.OJ4N ON6TT/ON4WW 416/2260 = 1.301.248
26.OJ2Q YU7BW/YU1ZZ 381/2743 = 1.300.734
27.OJ6X OH1MDR/OH1MM 438/2267 = 1.293.414
28.OJ7C ES5MC/ES2RR 393/2505 = 1.288.254
29.OJ2Z G4PIQ/G4BWP 419/2342 = 1.277.950
30.OJ6N OK2FD/OK2ZU 379/2446 = 1.274.577
31.OJ1S SP7GIQ/SP2FAX 371/2498 = 1.234.317
32.OJ5T SM5IMO/SM3SGP 386/2381 = 1.214.742
33.OJ7X S50A/S59AA 379/2542 = 1.210.147
34.OJ4S JM1CAX/JE1JKL 392/2289 = 1.205.008
35.OJ7N YL2KL/YL3DW 382/2392 = 1.196.424
36.OJ3X 5B4ADA/5B4WN 386/2310 = 1.186.950
37.OJ7S N5KO/N1YC 389/2177 = 1.142.882
38.OJ1X K1ZM/N6ZZ 370/2354 = 1.139.230
39.OJ5E OH6EI/OH2XX 402/2059 = 1.131.630
40.OJ1F NT1N/AG9A 397/2101 = 1.105.645
41.OJ5Z F6FGZ/F5NLY 375/2016 = 1.086.750
42.OJ8N YT1AD/YU7NU 359/2335 = 1.069.820
43.OJ7W UA9BA/RN9AO 368/2168 = 1.052.480
44.OJ6K VE7SV/VE7AHA 351/2257 = 1.045.980
45.OJ4A DJ6QT/DL2OBF 347/2166 = 1.005.259
46.OJ1C LU7DW/LU1FAM 322/2335 = 986.930
47.OJ7A PP5JR/PY1KN 333/2263 = 978.021
48.OJ1N EA3AIR/EA3KU 340/2140 = 954.380
49.OJ8L S56M/S57AL 345/1920 = 883.545
50.OJ1W ZS6EZ/ZS4TX 369/1723 = 880.065
51.OJ6Y IK2QEI/I4UFH 339/1921 = 878.349
52.OJ4W UN9LW/UN7LAN 297/1893 = 699.732
Some softwares used by teams did not count multipliers correctly.
This is the reason why some claimed scores were changed just after
the contest on the scoreboard.
Full WRTC2002 score sheet in Excel-format is available at
www.wrtc2002.org
Ari, OH1EH
>From slazar19 at sgi.net Tue Jul 16 13:21:10 2002
From: slazar19@sgi.net (Spencer Lazar)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NEW/REVISED WRTC 2002 Final Scores
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20020716122110.0084c220@mail.stargate.net>
Commissioner Bud Selig of WRTC 2002 has declared the contest a tie
because all the contestants had run out of qso's.
Spike W9XR
>From dave at egh.com Tue Jul 16 13:28:21 2002
From: dave@egh.com (David Clemons)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Choice of Calls
Message-ID: <00A1104C.BC96C113.44@egh.com>
I'm sure you all noticed that the WRTC2002 hosts had OJ callsigns
assigned, which was the first time they were used in amateur radio
history. Did anyone else figure out why the OJ block was used?
Hints:
- it was done to honor a very famous contester, who originally
cq'ed from the center of US DX Contesting (New England!)
- it was done to honor one of the original organizers of a
very famous state qso party (only %%% more days until the FQP!)
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
>From N5RP at pdq.net Tue Jul 16 12:39:59 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 160 Contest stuff
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020716113915.00b40bf0@pop.pdq.net>
http://www.eham.net/classifieds/detail/55213
http://www.eham.net/classifieds/detail/55212
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From N5RP at pdq.net Tue Jul 16 12:52:28 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Choice of Calls
In-Reply-To: <00A1104C.BC96C113.44@egh.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020716115146.00b86d68@pop.pdq.net>
At 12:28 7/16/2002 -0400, David Clemons wrote:
> I'm sure you all noticed that the WRTC2002 hosts had OJ callsigns
> assigned, which was the first time they were used in amateur radio
> history. Did anyone else figure out why the OJ block was used?
========================>
Ops wore leather gloves that were too tight.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 16 11:15:13 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207161715.g6GHFDX12521@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW LP
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW QRP
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB LP
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 16 11:16:03 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207161716.g6GHG3O12530@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA M/S HP
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW LP
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed HP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB HP
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB LP
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
Operators:
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 16 11:21:29 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207161721.g6GHLTs12558@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
VE5RI 527 1214 41 40 24 818,424
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
VE7AVV 0 809 0 40 15 198,960 BCDX Club
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
K4BAI 181 22 0 0 27,632 SECC
K1GU 118 0 28 0 4 24,920 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE5SF 416 562 39 39 18 579,696
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VA6RA 1 180 1 24 39,050
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VA3WN 142 50 13 10 6 26,542
W0ETT 100 2 25 1 7 21,632 Grand Mesa
VE3ANX 116 2 23 1 2 18,240
W1TO 67 12 15 5 12,680 YCCC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
N4WSM 0 29 0 13 4,550 TCG
W4NZ 32 3 9 2 3,300
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
VE3XAX 334 114 37 24 208,864 U-VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
VE3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 56 41 6 9 12 9,870
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From nt5c at texas.net Tue Jul 16 14:06:20 2002
From: nt5c@texas.net (John Warren)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: WRTC2002 Choice of Calls
In-Reply-To: <00A1104C.BC96C113.44@egh.com>
References: <00A1104C.BC96C113.44@egh.com>
Message-ID: <p04330101b95a1ca79f03@EIM-Mac-1.0.7>
>Did anyone else figure out why the OJ block was used?
To honor the man who made the name Hertz famous?
John, NT5C.
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Tue Jul 16 19:10:19 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020716171019.01344d50@pop.vnet.net>
In thinking about the WRTC 2002, the Finns certainly
deserve our thanks for making the playing field as level as
it has ever been by using identical antennas at the same height
over flat terrain within a limited area of Finland. From what
I understand of prior WRTC's, the 2002 edition was a major advance.
However, I've heard of at least one instance of severe
antenna interaction and problems with local power line QRN. Noticing
how poorly some of the excellent teams did in the standings, I cannot
help but believe that there may have been more than one case of
antenna interaction problems at specific sites.
Here are a few thoughts for the 2004 sponsor assuming
someone steps up to the plate. First, repeat the Finns' excellent
idea of identical antennas over flat terrain at the same height within
a limited geographic area, but remove antenna interaction and local
line noise problems from the equation.
How to do this?
1. Locate 50 stations along a remote flat seacoast a set distance
from high tide levels every mile along a 50 mile stretch of isolated
beach. During the summertime, comfort should not be much of a
problem due to temperature. Tents, generators, porta-potties and
coolers could provide what most of us need to survive a 24 hour contest.
We do it all the time in Field Day don't we?
2. Use identical multiband verticals with identical radial systems.
These are simple, inexpensive, easy to erect, and should work very
well near salt water.
3. Use small <1KW generators like the VP8THU/VP8GEO team used...
possibly backed up by UPS in case a referee temporarily forgets to
refuel.
Something like this should remove the variables of antenna
interaction and local power line noise, and I suspect there are
areas (like National Seashores in the US) that are not too far
removed from civilization for other necessary parts of the WRTC
(administrative meetings, awards dinners, etc.).
Something to think about while WRTC is fresh in our minds and
as clubs think about sponsoring the next WRTC in 2004.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From thompson at mindspring.com Tue Jul 16 16:40:50 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
Message-ID: <001f01c22d00$b43642a0$3c1256d1@default>
It seems that with all the effort to provide similar transceiver, location,
and antennas that the same software would be used. And the software should
be tested beforehand.
I always run several different logs through my CQ 160 software each year to
assure its checking OK and get rid of bugs. Writelog authors and
supporters including K9JY say that for each contest you should always set up
a test log and give it a spin before the contest. With N6AA, K5ZD and other
logging experts on hand this should have been fundamental.
I am also concerned that the address for e-mail logs filled up and kicked
back some logs.
Otherwise congratulations to the contestants and sponsors.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From n2mg at eham.net Tue Jul 16 18:46:31 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
Message-ID: <200207162046.g6GKkU5r012628@contesting.com>
I don't think I'd want to be the one to tell a WRTC competitor who has
used CT for 10 years that he has to learn TRLog or SuperDuper or
whatever. I believe it's pretty much the same reasoning behind letting
the ops choose their own radios.
But I agree that the software should have been tested...alas. It'll be
interesting to see just what the bug was.
-Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
on Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:40:50 -0400.
> It seems that with all the effort to provide similar transceiver, location,
> and antennas that the same software would be used. And the software should
> be tested beforehand.
>
> I always run several different logs through my CQ 160 software each year to
> assure its checking OK and get rid of bugs. Writelog authors and
> supporters including K9JY say that for each contest you should always set up
> a test log and give it a spin before the contest. With N6AA, K5ZD and other
> logging experts on hand this should have been fundamental.
>
> I am also concerned that the address for e-mail logs filled up and kicked
> back some logs.
>
> Otherwise congratulations to the contestants and sponsors.
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Wed Jul 17 02:39:30 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DD7@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Winners N5TJ & K1TO
Second RA3AUU & RV1AW
Third DL6FBL & DL2CC
AA & TJ lost a lot from their score, I do not
have details of the reasons, but understanding
is other one used caps lock and the other did not
so some multis were counted twice.
73,
Jukka
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Bill [mailto:k6km@cncnet.com]
> Sent: 16 July, 2002 07:53
> To: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi
> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
>
>
>
> Hei OH-land!
>
> What is happening there?
>
> Please tell us supporters of WRTC02 WHO WON the
> competition!
>
> Obviously there were some scoring problems, most
> notably with N6TJ and N6AA. PLEASE tell us why their
> score decreased as time passed; that should not be possible.
>
> PLEASE tell us why the N5KO/9V1YC score went
> flat in the last few hours.
>
> PLEASE tell us which teams were associated with which
> OJ callsigns!
>
> PLEASE tell us what's going on. To me, the delay in
> reporting results means that POLITICS is coming in
> to play and POLITICS may be more meaningful than
> PERFORMANCE in determing the final results.
>
> PLEASE prove me wrong.
>
> As any one might expect, Team Finland did a wonderful
> job preparing for and hosting WRTC 2002. Thank you
> for that. But WHY have you kept the world in ignorance
> as to the results?
>
> PLEASE TELL US WOT's UP!
>
> Bill K6KM
> also OH2/K6KM and OH0/K6KM
>
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>From 107770.3462 at compuserve.com Tue Jul 16 23:02:36 2002
From: 107770.3462@compuserve.com (James P. Cassidy)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W7GG
Message-ID: <200207162202_MC3-1-6AF-B3EF@compuserve.com>
Just heard that W7GGs buildings were spared in the fire. So just a matter
of putting the station back together.
73 Jim KI7Y
>From llindblom at juno.com Wed Jul 17 03:14:15 2002
From: llindblom@juno.com (Larry L Lindblom)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [TCG] NAQP RTTY - Its Almost Here
Message-ID: <20020717.021415.-1035393.1.LLindblom@juno.com>
Operator are standing by to sign you on to a TCG team for NAQP RTTY. The
event starts this Saturday at 1800 UTC so don't hesitate. Join with us
be you going for broke or only able to play for a few hours. Either way
I'd love to sign you up for a team. For those who want a big score that
is our goal for those that just want to have fun that is also our goal.
And, if you can run a big score and have fun we are 100% in agreement.
Life is too short not to have fun, I know that after a couple of major
illnesses.
Those signed on so far include:
K4GKM
K4RO
W4BCG
N1NB
KE4OAR
N2WK
W5CTV
AI9T
VE9DX
W4OX
W4LC
As you can see there is plenty of room for more. We'll have as many
teams as we can. Come on guys ring those phones off of the wall.
If you emailed me and don't see your call listed, send me another email
as I might of fat fingered it into the trash by mistake.
W0ETC in IA
>From K9GY at K9GY.com Wed Jul 17 04:19:05 2002
From: K9GY@K9GY.com (Eric K9GY)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WAE CW - Get Ready!
Message-ID: <001b01c22d40$bbd43a40$444d180a@9byjx01>
The WAE CW is almost here!
Saturday, 0000z August 10 until Sunday, 2359z August 11th
http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/fedcw.htm
>> ...seven essential changes to the current rules
>> 1. Additional multipliers for EU participants
>> 2. Splitting of the Single OP category into High and Low Power classes
>> 3. Markup of the "unassisted" participants
>> 4. Abolishing the 10-minute QSY rule for Single OPs
>> 5. Non-ambiguous definition of the Multi Single operation
>> 6. Credit for stations outside the contest
>> 7. SWL Category
2001 WAE Club winners (all three modes):
>> Europe: Bavarian Contest Club (DL) 20,380,025
>> Non-Europe: Frankford Radio Club (W3) 17,246,398
Catch the excitement during WAE CW 2002!
73, Eric
>From K9GY at K9GY.com Wed Jul 17 04:48:56 2002
From: K9GY@K9GY.com (Eric K9GY)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WAE CW - S/O USA "Millionaires"
Message-ID: <004001c22d44$e78563e0$444d180a@9byjx01>
Six new additions to the USA S/O WAE CW millionaires!
Yr Call Total Score Qs QTCs Mults
2001 N2NC 1,605,344 1,810 1,726 454
1996 KE2PF 1,499,998 1,706 1,680 443
2001 N4AF 1,442,408 1,690 1,566 443
2001 K3WW 1,328,392 1,579 1,554 424
1996 K1JKS 1,297,728 1,503 1,501 432
------------------------------------------------------
2001 K3NM 1,281,721 1,535 1,524 419 op-LU9AY
2001 K5KG 1,183,217 1,389 1,382 427
2001 AA3B 1,182,384 1,446 1,410 414
1997 KQ2M 1,137,664 1,416 1,400 404
1981 K1GQ 1,128,330 1,393 1,393 405
------------------------------------------------------
1982 W1ZM 1,112,889 1,361 1,360 409
1983 KC1F 1,088,960 1,328 1,328 410
1997 N1BB 1,071,900 1,350 1,350 397
1979 K1PR 1,051,264 1,379 1,373 382
1981 W1ZM 1,041,913 1,420 1,419 367
------------------------------------------------------
1982 KC1F 1,034,838 1,355 1,354 382
1999 W4MYA 1,014,468 1,404 1,383 364
17 USA S/O entries made it over the million mark since 1974.
Become RADIO-ACTIVE in WAE CW 2002!
http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/fedcw.htm
>From ua3ap at mail.ru Wed Jul 17 09:00:11 2002
From: ua3ap@mail.ru (Sergei Kulyov)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Early bird lottery/log confirmation
Message-ID: <E17Ufz1-0009Qu-00@f13.mail.ru>
Hello to everybody
I have couple questions regarding the WRTC-2002 results for non-WRTC
participants.
1. Any idea when the results of "Early bird" lottery will be on the WEB?
2. As others I haven't got the confirmation from the logs@wrtc2002.org address
that my log arrived. Will they publish the list of received logs?
Anyway it was a big pleasure to work the WRTC guys. Made 265 QSO with OJs.
73 es GL, Sergei - UA3AP
>From harry at oh6yf.com Wed Jul 17 10:11:32 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Some new WRTC Photos & Pileup Downloads
References: <200207162202_MC3-1-6AF-B3EF@compuserve.com>
Message-ID: <000601c22d58$cc67ec90$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hello!
There are now some new photos from WRTC 2002 at:
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
You can also find WRTC Pileup recordings in MP3 format there.
73 de Harry OH6YF
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
>From k3ft at erols.com Wed Jul 17 05:57:18 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MD-DC QSO party 10 - 11 August 2002
Message-ID: <3D353F7E.6FC7@erols.com>
MD/DC QSO party is upcoming 10-11 August 2002. See website for Antietam
Radio Assocition W3CWC for details. Site can be found doing search for
W3CWC, MDC QSO PARTY, Antietam Radio Association.
Nice event.. special award for working all 25 MD/DC counties/Baltimore
City. Not an 'iron man' event. Runs from noon local Saturday till
midnight local Saturday and noon local Sunday until 8pm local Sunday.
73
Chuck K3FT
It's same weekend as WAE so you can combine both and have a REALLY good
time!
>From k3ft at erols.com Wed Jul 17 06:08:07 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MDC QSO party website URL
Message-ID: <3D354207.739F@erols.com>
Found it. Can be reached at http://www.w3cwc.org/funcontest.htm
73
Chuck K3FT
>From N5RP at pdq.net Wed Jul 17 08:28:58 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Early Bird Prizes
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020717072744.00b3fec0@pop.pdq.net>
Just received my E-mail notification of my winning an early bird log
submittal prize.
E-mail went to the address I used for submittal, so I was not even aware of
my winning.
WOW !
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Wed Jul 17 09:16:44 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020716171019.01344d50@pop.vnet.net>; from Bill Tippett
on Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 06:10:19PM +0100
References: <1.5.4.32.20020716171019.01344d50@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <20020717081644.D23499@cs.utexas.edu>
On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 06:10:19PM +0100, Bill Tippett wrote:
> In thinking about the WRTC 2002, the Finns certainly
> deserve our thanks for making the playing field as level as
> it has ever been by using identical antennas at the same height
> over flat terrain within a limited area of Finland. From what
> I understand of prior WRTC's, the 2002 edition was a major advance.
>
> However, I've heard of at least one instance of severe
> antenna interaction and problems with local power line QRN. Noticing
> how poorly some of the excellent teams did in the standings, I cannot
> help but believe that there may have been more than one case of
> antenna interaction problems at specific sites.
>
> Here are a few thoughts for the 2004 sponsor assuming
> someone steps up to the plate. First, repeat the Finns' excellent
> idea of identical antennas over flat terrain at the same height within
> a limited geographic area, but remove antenna interaction and local
> line noise problems from the equation.
>
> How to do this?
>
> 1. Locate 50 stations along a remote flat seacoast a set distance
> from high tide levels every mile along a 50 mile stretch of isolated
> beach. During the summertime, comfort should not be much of a
> problem due to temperature. Tents, generators, porta-potties and
> coolers could provide what most of us need to survive a 24 hour contest.
> We do it all the time in Field Day don't we?
>
> 2. Use identical multiband verticals with identical radial systems.
> These are simple, inexpensive, easy to erect, and should work very
> well near salt water.
>
> 3. Use small <1KW generators like the VP8THU/VP8GEO team used...
> possibly backed up by UPS in case a referee temporarily forgets to
> refuel.
Some of us at W1AW/5 tossed around very similar ideas while we were on
standby to operate. One place this could be done is Padre Island
National Seashore on the Gulf coast of Texas. I'm sure there are
places in Florida and the barrier islands of North Carolina that
would work, too.
Drawbacks:
* Random beach-goers walking into RF fields, touching the antennas, etc.
* At least on Padre, there's a lot of vehicle traffic on the beach -
which means ignition noise.
* Texas, Florida, and the Carolinas are all subject to summer thunderstorms
and tropical rains.
* There would be concern about the heat giving the USA and SA operators
an unfair advantage over EU operators.
In any event, I think Florida would make a great host site - the terrain
across the state is very flat, you could robably find enough air-conditioned
operating sites in a 50 kilometer radius, and the Florida Contest Group is
fairly active and involved.
Other places that I think would be great:
* Japan (although, the way things are going, it wouldn't surprise me if
next year there were no Japanese teams invited at all.)
* Australia
* SMC country
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From swca at swbell.net Wed Jul 17 10:33:53 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
References: <001f01c22d00$b43642a0$3c1256d1@default>
Message-ID: <053701c22d9e$fc6f4af0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Dave, K4JRB wrote:
>It seems that with all the effort to
>provide similar transceiver, location,
>and antennas that the same software
>would be used.
No effort was made to "provide similar transceivers," only antennas,
supports and rotators. The competitors were required by the rules to
provide their own radios. Likewise, they were required to provide PCs and
the software of their own choice.
>From frenaye at pcnet.com Wed Jul 17 12:52:48 2002
From: frenaye@pcnet.com (Tom Frenaye)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: [NEWSVHF] ARRL Claimed scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020717114713.025b4d00@204.213.232.3 >
Thought this would be of interest. Talked to N1ND - he says the listing of
logs received will show claimed scores for all ARRL contests - but only after
the log submission deadline has passed.
-- Tom
>To: newsvhf@mailman.qth.net
>From: Ron Klimas WZ1V <wz1v@ntplx.net>
>Subject: [NEWSVHF] ARRL Claimed scores
>Sender: newsvhf-admin@mailman.qth.net
>
>Something new, Reports from the Contest Log Robot extracts claimed scores,
>check out the ones for June:
>http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
>
>-73, Ron WZ1V
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
e-mail: frenaye@pcnet.com YCCC --> http://www.yccc.org/
Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Wed Jul 17 09:59:40 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (Bob Wruble)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W7GG/IARU/ Fire
Message-ID: <00c201c22daa$f5926ee0$eefd3d04@bobhome>
Many of you have sent me notes after reading Ken's (K7ZUM) account of our
adventuire during the IARU test. Thanks to all for their thots and concerns.
In the end my radio QTH was spared by the fast moving forest fire that hit
our area in Centrsl Oregon last Saturday during the IARU test. As in most
forest fires wind speed and direction plays a big role in who is hit or missed.
As Ken pointed out we were told to evacuate Saturday afternoon right in the
middle of the IARU event. At that time it looked like we were in for it but
were
spared. I'm going back to the radio QTH this weekend to start re setting up
the station.
Once again thanks to all for their kind wishes,
de Bob, W7GG, Ai7b, WW7OR
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>From n2nl at yahoo.com Wed Jul 17 10:29:53 2002
From: n2nl@yahoo.com (David Mueller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <20020717081644.D23499@cs.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <20020717162953.65549.qmail@web21402.mail.yahoo.com>
K1TO, WC4E and myself were approached several times in
Finland about the possibility of having the next WRTC
in Florida. Although it would be easy to have
identical stations due to the flat terrain, the
biggest problem in July is the weather. Not only can
it be oppressivly hot to some of the competitors,
there are the thunderstorms which are a daily
occurance this time of year. The percent chance of
having a thunderstorm during the contest probably
exceeds 75%. Required off time could be an option,
however there are times these storms last for hours
and hours which could wipe out a team's chances.
The word from K7LXC at the award dinner were that
there were possible hosts from 4 continents (didn't
specify beyond that) for the next one which most
likely will be held in 2006.
73, Dave N2NL
--- "Kenneth E. Harker" <kharker@cs.utexas.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 06:10:19PM +0100, Bill
> Tippett wrote:
> > In thinking about the WRTC 2002, the Finns
> certainly
> > deserve our thanks for making the playing field as
> level as
> > it has ever been by using identical antennas at
> the same height
> > over flat terrain within a limited area of
> Finland. From what
> > I understand of prior WRTC's, the 2002 edition was
> a major advance.
> >
> > However, I've heard of at least one
> instance of severe
> > antenna interaction and problems with local power
> line QRN. Noticing
> > how poorly some of the excellent teams did in the
> standings, I cannot
> > help but believe that there may have been more
> than one case of
> > antenna interaction problems at specific sites.
> >
> > Here are a few thoughts for the 2004
> sponsor assuming
> > someone steps up to the plate. First, repeat the
> Finns' excellent
> > idea of identical antennas over flat terrain at
> the same height within
> > a limited geographic area, but remove antenna
> interaction and local
> > line noise problems from the equation.
> >
> > How to do this?
> >
> > 1. Locate 50 stations along a remote flat
> seacoast a set distance
> > from high tide levels every mile along a 50 mile
> stretch of isolated
> > beach. During the summertime, comfort should not
> be much of a
> > problem due to temperature. Tents, generators,
> porta-potties and
> > coolers could provide what most of us need to
> survive a 24 hour contest.
> > We do it all the time in Field Day don't we?
> >
> > 2. Use identical multiband verticals with
> identical radial systems.
> > These are simple, inexpensive, easy to erect, and
> should work very
> > well near salt water.
> >
> > 3. Use small <1KW generators like the
> VP8THU/VP8GEO team used...
> > possibly backed up by UPS in case a referee
> temporarily forgets to
> > refuel.
>
> Some of us at W1AW/5 tossed around very similar
> ideas while we were on
> standby to operate. One place this could be done is
> Padre Island
> National Seashore on the Gulf coast of Texas. I'm
> sure there are
> places in Florida and the barrier islands of North
> Carolina that
> would work, too.
>
> Drawbacks:
>
> * Random beach-goers walking into RF fields,
> touching the antennas, etc.
> * At least on Padre, there's a lot of vehicle
> traffic on the beach -
> which means ignition noise.
> * Texas, Florida, and the Carolinas are all subject
> to summer thunderstorms
> and tropical rains.
> * There would be concern about the heat giving the
> USA and SA operators
> an unfair advantage over EU operators.
>
>
> In any event, I think Florida would make a great
> host site - the terrain
> across the state is very flat, you could robably
> find enough air-conditioned
> operating sites in a 50 kilometer radius, and the
> Florida Contest Group is
> fairly active and involved.
>
> Other places that I think would be great:
>
> * Japan (although, the way things are going, it
> wouldn't surprise me if
> next year there were no Japanese teams
> invited at all.)
>
> * Australia
>
> * SMC country
>
> --
>
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> kharker@cs.utexas.edu
> University of Texas at Austin
> Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
> Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central
> Texas DX & Contest Club
> Taylor Hall TAY 2.124
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>From fgrisafi at tin.it Wed Jul 17 19:41:51 2002
From: fgrisafi@tin.it (IT9GSF Fabio Grisafi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IG9A 2002 OP WANTED CQWW 2002
Message-ID: <PMELJIDIKLOKPBNDOFIOCEEFDCAA.fgrisafi@tin.it>
I am looking for a friend to take part in the coming CQWW Contests.
IG9A will be not active as M/M this year but we hope to be QRV all bands
with
Single Op entries.
There is space for a SO/80 meters or SO/160 meters entry for the SSB Contest
and for
a SO/All Band in the CW Contest.
I will operate SO/All band in the SSB Contest and SO/80 in the CW.
It is requested to be in Lampedusa from Oct21 to Oct28 and from Nov21 to
Nov26.
Both periods QRV is a must as I am looking for help to erect antennas and to
take them
down in November.
Goals are:
First place 80 meters SSB with All Time record setting.
One of the first 3 place for SO/ALL SSB.
First place 80 meters CW with All Time record setting.
One of the first 3 place for SO/ALL CW.
Equipments:
We need only a TRX, a rotator and a two elements 40 mts Yagi to complete two
stations.
First station (All bands):
Location: highest point in the island near TV repeater (NO TVI);
KT34XA on a 18 mts tower;
6 el. 15 mts + 5 el. 10 mts Yagi on the second 18 mts aluminum tower;
5 el. 20 mts + 2 el. 40 mts Yagi on the third 18 mts aluminum tower;
80 meters sloopers, 160 mts dipole and sloopers from a 25 meters TV
broadcast tower;
Beverages to W and NW (No other directions possible).
Second station (80 and/or 160 meters):
Location: previous M/M QTH in the north side of the island over a 60 meter
cliff;
Quarter wave vertical with >120 radials;
Several Beverages;
If you are interested please e-mail me directly: fgrisafi@tin.it
73 de Fabio, IT9GSF (One of IG9A 1994-2001).
>From kl7ra at blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov Wed Jul 17 21:51:44 2002
From: kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov (KL7RA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <006a01c22e16$d1e502c0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
>> Here are a few thoughts for the 2004 sponsor assuming
>> someone steps up to the plate. First, repeat the Finns' excellent
>> idea of identical antennas over flat terrain at the same height within
>> a limited geographic area, but remove antenna interaction and local
>> line noise problems from the equation.
>>
>> How to do this?
>>
>> 1. Locate 50 stations along a remote flat seacoast a set distance
>> from high tide levels every mile along a 50 mile stretch of isolated
>> beach.
Or small ships at sea spaced out over some distance, but the cost would
be too much.
I had a great time working the OJ's and found they would pick my call out
very quickly. Conditions here in Alaska were excellent, best I have heard
in years which is odd for July. All the OJ stations usually had the same
signal strength but I also noticed some would have a huge pile and others
not, strange.
Now that's it's over and the contest world has to agree that Dan and Jeff are
indeed the best, I have some questions about the rules the Finns used. Maybe
they could explain to me and the next possible WRTC rule's committee their
logic or thinking.
-- CW and SSB count the same points and no additional multiplier for a second
band mode QSO.
This rule prevents any advantage for a team with equal skills in both
modes.
A team that can do both modes well should be rewarded but this rule says
that a SSB team only can also compete. Is this what we want?
-- Radio A only makes the QSO.
-- Op B can't make QSOs.
-- Op A can not touch radio B
This rule prevents any advantage for a team that can work well together. Two
ops that can read each other's mind and can operate as a team should be
rewarded, but these rules clearly take that away. I assume these rules were
to prevent the "long time together" teams from swamping the playing field,
but again, is this what we want?
73 Rich KL7RA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Jul 17 11:20:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 17Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207171720.g6HHKC613736@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 17Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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NA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
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NA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
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NA SO CW LP
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW QRP
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 k 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
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NA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
FM5GU 0 1492 99 9 609,246
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB LP
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Jul 17 11:20:58 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 17Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207171720.g6HHKwg13745@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 17Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA M/S HP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 8927 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW LP
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed HP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB HP
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From harry at oh6yf.com Wed Jul 17 21:29:10 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Some new WRTC Photos & Pileup Downloads
References: <200207162202_MC3-1-6AF-B3EF@compuserve.com>
<000601c22d58$cc67ec90$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Message-ID: <001a01c22db7$7692ea40$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hi!
I put the rest of the photos of WRTC 2002 to
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
I will still add some more text later but now I have to drive to the
airport.
CU!
Best 73,
Harry
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
>From n2mg at eham.net Wed Jul 17 16:05:09 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. I only
dabbled in the contest, but watching the spots and listening to the
activity at my QTH, the OJ activity seemed far greater on CW than SSB.
In fact, I worked all 52 OJ calls, 48 of them on 20CW, but only 6 or so
on 20SSB.
-Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by "KL7RA" <kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov> on
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:51:44 -0800.
> -- CW and SSB count the same points and no additional multiplier for a second
> band mode QSO.
> This rule prevents any advantage for a team with equal skills in both
> modes.
> A team that can do both modes well should be rewarded but this rule says
> that a SSB team only can also compete. Is this what we want?
>From w5iz at yahoo.com Wed Jul 17 12:42:54 2002
From: w5iz@yahoo.com (Al Baker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
Message-ID: <20020717184254.10886.qmail@web13908.mail.yahoo.com>
Should be in P5. Great exposure to the potential P5
hams and give us all new band countries.
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>From hurl8957 at uidaho.edu Wed Jul 17 13:25:07 2002
From: hurl8957@uidaho.edu (Christopher Hurlbut)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC and IARU
Message-ID: <396620.1026933907814.JavaMail.cpadmin@pipeline.csrv.uidaho.edu>
I hope the next WRTC in 2006 is in a tropical place! Conditions are going to
be horrible I'm sure.
The northern latitudes seemed to luck out this year, as conditions were much
better than normal.
Of course the CW ops are going to do better... everyone knows CW is better than
Fone. :)
-Chris KL9A
http://www.kl7g.org/kl9a <--new IARU sound files
kl9a@qsl.net
>From kl7ra at blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov Thu Jul 18 01:29:24 2002
From: kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov (KL7RA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
>Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
>believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. ///snip
>-Mike N2MG
You're probably right Mike, but during the last few hours of the test
their SSB rates were around five a minute, 300 hour, or more and
I was having some difficulty cracking their ssb piles. The usual
thinking is to double the points for CW and the Finns decided not
to do this.
My thinking is a super ssb op would have some advantage over the
CW op simply because he could go faster, there are more ssb stations
on and more mults. When the rate falls due 100 watts/ low antenna, you
change bands.
The real answer is probably something like it doesn't matter because
no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the strategy at this
level of competition is simply run best rate for score. Having to balance
between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not necessary,
Rich KL7RA
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Wed Jul 17 18:27:56 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>; from
KL7RA on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 12:29:24AM -0800
References: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <20020717172756.S24221@cs.utexas.edu>
On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 12:29:24AM -0800, KL7RA wrote:
> >Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
> >believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. ///snip
>
> >-Mike N2MG
>
> You're probably right Mike, but during the last few hours of the test
> their SSB rates were around five a minute, 300 hour, or more and
> I was having some difficulty cracking their ssb piles. The usual
> thinking is to double the points for CW and the Finns decided not
> to do this.
Doubling the points for CW would be terrible. The WRTC stations
already make more CW QSOs than phone QSOs. Give them double points,
and they'd spend substantially less time on phone than they already do.
> My thinking is a super ssb op would have some advantage over the
> CW op simply because he could go faster, there are more ssb stations
> on and more mults. When the rate falls due 100 watts/ low antenna, you
> change bands.
The actual WRTC results haven't historically supported this hypothesis.
Even in 2000, when the scoring was specifically designed to make CW and
SSB QSOs equally important (by making one's CW or SSB score based upon
a percentage of the highest QSO total made on that mode) the WRTC
operators _still_ on average made more CW QSOs than phone QSOs.
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From ah3c at frii.com Wed Jul 17 17:55:52 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
YU7BW (OJ2Q) had 254 QSO's on 20 SSB 1st hour!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer, N2MG" <n2mg@eham.net>
To: "[Contest Reflector]" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
> Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
> believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. I only
> dabbled in the contest, but watching the spots and listening to the
> activity at my QTH, the OJ activity seemed far greater on CW than SSB.
> In fact, I worked all 52 OJ calls, 48 of them on 20CW, but only 6 or so
> on 20SSB.
>
> -Mike N2MG
>
> The following message was sent by "KL7RA" <kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov>
on Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:51:44 -0800.
>
> > -- CW and SSB count the same points and no additional multiplier for a
second
> > band mode QSO.
> > This rule prevents any advantage for a team with equal skills in
both modes.
> > A team that can do both modes well should be rewarded but this rule says
> > that a SSB team only can also compete. Is this what we want?
>
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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>
>From chris.blakely at verizon.net Wed Jul 17 21:26:10 2002
From: chris.blakely@verizon.net (Chris Blakely)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <003f01c22df1$b7cb08a0$3ad5fea9@christib>
Mike,Rich,
"The real answer is probably something like it doesn't matter because
> no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the strategy at this
> level of competition is simply run best rate for score. Having to balance
> between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not necessary,"
I may be wrong but is there not a CW pileup competition that figures as
part of the final score? There is an spreadsheet on the WRTC web site that
shows K5TJ & K1TO as being the highest scorers in the pileup competition. I
think that in the last WRTC this score was also part of the final standings,
so that a strictly ssb would suffer badly.
Chris, AB1R
----- Original Message -----
From: "KL7RA" <kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov>
To: "[Contest Reflector]" <cq-contest@contesting.com>; "Mike Gilmer, N2MG"
<n2mg@eham.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
> >Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
> >believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. ///snip
>
> >-Mike N2MG
>
> You're probably right Mike, but during the last few hours of the test
> their SSB rates were around five a minute, 300 hour, or more and
> I was having some difficulty cracking their ssb piles. The usual
> thinking is to double the points for CW and the Finns decided not
> to do this.
>
> My thinking is a super ssb op would have some advantage over the
> CW op simply because he could go faster, there are more ssb stations
> on and more mults. When the rate falls due 100 watts/ low antenna, you
> change bands.
>
> The real answer is probably something like it doesn't matter because
> no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the strategy at this
> level of competition is simply run best rate for score. Having to balance
> between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not necessary,
>
> Rich KL7RA
>
>
>
>
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>From k8khz at comcast.net Wed Jul 17 21:31:51 2002
From: k8khz@comcast.net (Sean D. Fleming)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB Vs. CW QSO's in a Contest
Message-ID: <000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
I am not the greatest CW copier at all. I even have to use CWget to copy cy at
speeds sent by contesting stations. But I look at like the subbmision of CW op
K9LA with like 3,100 CW QSo's made in 24 Hours. Then I wonder well can you make
SSB contacts faster than CW contacts and what is it I am lacking to make more
SSB contacts. Is it Filters? Is it Large Antennas? Is it just the lack of
fastness of talking. Put some input in. I need some elmering so that I can win
a contest at some time.
My Shack here is Wire and 100W with a TS-570D(G) But I have been to a station
with a 2el Quad and a 756 Pro. Results are still somewhat not the best yet.
Also Interested to know what do you use to send CW and copy it head or
computer. Tnx.
73's
Sean
K8KHZ
k8khz@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/k8khz
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>From n2mg at eham.net Wed Jul 17 22:28:10 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
<003f01c22df1$b7cb08a0$3ad5fea9@christib>
Message-ID: <002801c22dfa$62767700$3201a8c0@mikehome>
The website says:
"Summercamp PileUp contest for fun results (in Excel file)"
I think the "for fun" part says it all. ;-)
There was a SSB competition as well.
-Mike N2MG
AB1R wrote:
> I may be wrong but is there not a CW pileup competition that figures
as
> part of the final score?
>From n2nl at yahoo.com Wed Jul 17 20:02:24 2002
From: n2nl@yahoo.com (David Mueller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <003f01c22df1$b7cb08a0$3ad5fea9@christib>
Message-ID: <20020718020224.13845.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>
The pileup tapes were for fun only, and didn't
count toward the final score.
As SSB/CW goes, here's my experiences as OJ3R.
For us, QSOs counted the same for CW and SSB.
Europe was worth 1 QSO point, DX 2 points. On the
high bands, SSB rates generally were better, because
you could simply work them faster on phone. However,
most of these were Europe. We were able to work far
more DX (W's) using CW, and thus our QSO Point per
hour was actually higher using that mode when the
bands were open stateside. Also, we worked several
close in backscatter mults we never would have had the
chance to work using SSB.
On 40 and 80, trying to find a hole in the narrow
phone subband with our 100w was nearly impossible
amungst the loud HQ and other EU stations. On the
other hand, we were able to hold our own using CW and
get quite good rates. We only used SSB here to work
new multipliers.
After talking with the top 3 teams, I think they
generally followed the same strategy - they just did
it better than us.
I think that a SSB only team with weak CW skills
would be at a SERIOUS disadvantage at a WRTC with
similar scoring.
73, Dave N2NL
--- Chris Blakely <chris.blakely@verizon.net> wrote:
> Mike,Rich,
> "The real answer is probably something like it
> doesn't matter because
> > no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the
> strategy at this
> > level of competition is simply run best rate for
> score. Having to balance
> > between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not
> necessary,"
>
> I may be wrong but is there not a CW pileup
> competition that figures as
> part of the final score? There is an spreadsheet on
> the WRTC web site that
> shows K5TJ & K1TO as being the highest scorers in
> the pileup competition. I
> think that in the last WRTC this score was also part
> of the final standings,
> so that a strictly ssb would suffer badly.
>
> Chris, AB1R
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "KL7RA" <kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov>
> To: "[Contest Reflector]"
> <cq-contest@contesting.com>; "Mike Gilmer, N2MG"
> <n2mg@eham.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
>
>
> > >Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low
> tribander, I have to
> > >believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to
> compete. ///snip
> >
> > >-Mike N2MG
> >
> > You're probably right Mike, but during the last
> few hours of the test
> > their SSB rates were around five a minute, 300
> hour, or more and
> > I was having some difficulty cracking their ssb
> piles. The usual
> > thinking is to double the points for CW and the
> Finns decided not
> > to do this.
> >
> > My thinking is a super ssb op would have some
> advantage over the
> > CW op simply because he could go faster, there are
> more ssb stations
> > on and more mults. When the rate falls due 100
> watts/ low antenna, you
> > change bands.
> >
> > The real answer is probably something like it
> doesn't matter because
> > no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the
> strategy at this
> > level of competition is simply run best rate for
> score. Having to balance
> > between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not
> necessary,
> >
> > Rich KL7RA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >
>
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
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>From llindblom at juno.com Thu Jul 18 03:21:36 2002
From: llindblom@juno.com (Larry L Lindblom)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [TCG] NAQP RTTY TEAMS
Message-ID: <20020718.022137.-933939.2.LLindblom@juno.com>
NAQP RTTY is drawing near. It is not to late to sign up for a team.
So far the following people have signed on to play on a TCG team in NAQP
RTTY.
W4GKM
K4RO
W4BCG
N1NB
KE4OAR
N2WK
W5CTV
AI9T
VE9DX
W4OX
W4LC
NY1S
KB5BOB
NN4T
VA3WN
VP2EL
8P6SH
W0ETC
It is not to late to add your call to the mix. We welcome one and all no
matter your skill, intended activity level, or geographic location. The
main thing is we want everyone to enjoy the contest any and every way
they can.
Yes, I added my call to the list. My 775 and 756 might be dead but the
trust old TS930S after sitting on a shelf for five years still works in
AFSK mode. For me it will be a back to the basics contest with no
rig/computer interface and having to run SSB filters in AFSK mode. So if
you have been hesitant to join a team for lack of a good RTTY rig let
this be an example of how crazy some of us contesters can be.
Why not join us on a team and have some fun. E-mail me if you would
like to play with us. We'll organize as many teams as we can. As always
if your call is missing from the list please resend your e-mail as I
might of fat fingered it into the trash by mistake,
73 W0ETC LAR in IA
>From w7why at harborside.com Thu Jul 18 03:37:18 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB Vs. CW QSO's in a Contest
References: <000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <3D361BCE.44E5FE7B@harborside.com>
"Sean D. Fleming" wrote:
>Then I wonder well can you make SSB contacts faster than CW >contacts and what
>is it I am lacking to make more SSB contacts.
Hi Sean
I find I can work CW much faster than SSB, mainly because my
hearing is not what it used to be after working 35 years in a
very noisy environment. It is amazing to me how some ops can
pick a call out the first time, considering accents, etc. Most
of the time I have to listen for 2 or 3 transmissions to get a
callsign straight on SSB, but on CW, it's a different story.
Most of the time I just S&P in fone contests. I get tired of
saying "huh?" all the time if trying to run stations :-) 73
Tom W7WHY
>From geoiii at kkn.net Wed Jul 17 21:40:05 2002
From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III - K5TR)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB Vs. CW QSO's in a Contest
In-Reply-To: <000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>;
from Sean D. Fleming on Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 08:31:51PM -0400
References: <000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20020717204005.B23300@loja.kkn.net>
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 08:31:51PM -0400, Sean D. Fleming wrote:
> I am not the greatest CW copier at all. I even have to use CWget to
> copy cy at speeds sent by contesting stations. But I look at like
> the subbmision of CW op K9LA with like 3,100 CW QSo's made in 24
> Hours. Then I wonder well can you make SSB contacts faster than CW
> contacts and what is it I am lacking to make more SSB contacts. Is
> it Filters? Is it Large Antennas? Is it just the lack of fastness of
> talking. Put some input in.
All of those things help.
Normally - all things being equal you can make more
contacts per hour on SSB than you can on CW.
I could go on and on about what things can make a
diffrence but I think the thing you are asking is
"How can I make larger contest scores?"
It helps to have bigger antennas - moving from your
wire to a tribander or quad at 40-60 feet high
would make a big diffrence. Going from 100 watts to
500 or 1000 or 1500 will also help. The antenna will
help more because you will hear more people.
Operating alot of contests also helps - just as in most
things in life the more you practice them the better you get.
Getting on and operating alot will do you more good
than anything else - esp when you are first starting out.
Most of the contest greats did alot of contesting
with poor antennas and equuipment for countless years
before they won their first contest.
When I look at your contest scores here:
http://www.geocities.com/k8khz/contesting.html
I notice two things:
- You have not been doing this contesting thing too long.
- Your scores have improved alot from one year to the next.
(This is really good and what we all strive to do.)
Keep up the good work.
> Pro. Results are still somewhat not the best yet. Also Interested to
> know what do you use to send CW and copy it head or computer. Tnx.
As far as I know all the CW contest winners copy CW with their
head - it just takes practice. Some of us (me) have never really
worked on it hard enough and still can't do CW very well.
You email and my answer reminds me of one of my all time
favorite posts ever made to the CQ-Contest mailing list.
It was a post by N5KO.
In fact I liked it so much I have it saved in my /home directory.
Here it is - if you missed it the first time.
(KR0Y/5 is now N5TJ)
+++++++++ copy of post +++++++++
> If I were in your class, what would I appreciate about your
> ability or technique? Or in other words, what would another
> highly accomplished contester know about your skills that I
> miss because I'm just an awed "apprentice"?
>(If you're too modest to talk about yourself, apply the question
> to the your personal contesting "hero", the guy you vow to beat
> this year.)
In my view, this is one of the true dilemmas of radio contesting.
You, as the hypothetical "apprentice," do not have the knowledge or
experience to be able to appreciate the skills I have developed
that make me the hypothetical "major league contester."
And similarly, I take for granted many of the fundamental skills
that are necessary for you to advance to the next level.
I like to offer up two quotations that sum up my general
beliefs on the topic. The first is from someone in my peer
group, and second is from someone who I would categorize as
a personal contesting hero from my formative years in
contesting, although I doubt he actually knows this :-) ).
"With experience comes knowledge and cunning. I can't stand here
and tell you the secrets, as many of them are second nature to me
now."-KR0Y/5
"The best of the best gained their winning edge practicing the basics
over and over in numerous forgettable events, often using inadequte
radios and second-rate antennas. Discovering how to overcome such
obstacles are lessons never forgotten."-NCJ Profile of N6RO
And now for a bit of a digression:
I have observed many "second tier" (and others down through the
neophyte ranks of) contesters think that there is some set of
winning "tricks" that the "first tier" contesters use to beat them,
and if only someone would let them in on these terrific secrets,
they would be first rate contesters themselves.
These people are setting themselves up for disappointment, because
I'm going to let them in on the biggest secret of all:
"There are no secrets!"
It turns out, as with most things is life, that skill and hard
work pay the most reliable dividends in the long run.
Now for some specific advice. None of these things are mandatory to
win, but collectively they really add up:
o Know the code. 50 WPM conversational is a nice milestone
note: don't try this at home with pencil and paper.
o Know the bands. Nothing like knowing the right band
to be on to improve your score.
o Know your station. Knowing whether or not your station
has the gusto to run people or crack pileups under
given conditions on a given band is a real time saver.
o Stay in the chair. You can't be the loudest station on
the air if you are not on the air.
And now for some general advice:
o Operate a lot. Experience is king.
I learn something every time I operate.
o Solicit advice from a variety of experienced people.
Some of the "experts" will be more compatible with you
on a personal level than others, so shop around and get
a variety of points of view.
To wit, after I post this message, I will get a few notes from
various folks, about half of which will say "I really identified
with what you wrote. You're a genius!" and the other half of
which will say "You're a moron. Get stuffed!"
--Trey, N5KO, HC8N (QSL via AA5BT), WN4KKN/6
+++++++++++++ end of post +++++++++++++++++
--
George Fremin III - K5TR
geoiii@kkn.net
http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>From marc.wullaert3 at pandora.be Thu Jul 18 06:51:51 2002
From: marc.wullaert3@pandora.be (Marc Wullaert)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Vist to TEXAS-HOUSTON
Message-ID: <003d01c22e0e$7ace3770$0401a8c0@on4mamarc>
Hi,
Sorry for the bandwith,but the next two weeks I will
be near Houston Texas on holiday.Anyone I can meet
there in the second week.I have a car overthere.
73/dx
Marc ON4MA
>From swca at swbell.net Wed Jul 17 23:55:30 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <067001c22e0e$f6e13790$0100a8c0@TL01>
Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
Mark, N5OT
>From K9GY at K9GY.com Thu Jul 18 05:20:32 2002
From: K9GY@K9GY.com (Eric K9GY)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
Message-ID: <013201c22e12$ac7912a0$564d180a@9byjx01>
I for one would like to see some continental differences utilized in the next
WRTC.
It appears that EU and US WRTC geographical coverage has been accomplished.
Given that how about Asia or South America?
Maybe China or Asiatic Russia...Argentina or Brazil...
We can "mix it up" by having it in AS or SA?
Although I think it will be a disappointment to have the next WRTC during the
solar minimum
unless the standard setup is going to include nice low band antennas :-)
N5TJ & K1TO could then capture the WRTC Won-All-Continents!
CQ Contest!
>From n0ss at earthlink.net Thu Jul 18 00:30:19 2002
From: n0ss@earthlink.net (Tom Hammond =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=D8SS?=)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [TRLog] Various IARU issues
In-Reply-To: <002e01c22e0e$d071e460$0700000a@slc.teltronics.com>
References: <4.3.2.7.0.20020718005347.003851d0@pop.pacific.net.hk>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020717232535.00b305f0@mail.earthlink.net>
Tom:
>I feel like people are laughing at me when I call QRZ to check for the
>frequency in use before I start a run frequency. Sort of like a scarlett Q
>on my signal Hi Hi.
QRZ? ("who is calling me?") isn't the appropriate Q-signal. QRL? ("Is the
frequency occupied") is more appropriate.
In the heat of a contest, it is sometimes difficult to remember to "QRL"
each time you think you've found a clear freq, I must admit. I try, but
often find myself forgetting, and being chastized for it a bit later...
usually following (or more often DURING) the first CQ. The nice thing is
QSK, so you can hear other activity WHILE you're sending. Thus you can stop
sending as soon as you realize there is traffic on the freq.
In many cases, if I hear a station beginning to CW on the freq. I'm
operating on, I can generally send a couple DAHs, he'll hear me thru his
CQing and stop sending or move.
73,
Tom Hammond N0SS
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Jul 18 01:44:08 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] re CW - dear naysayers - we have proof it works better :-)
Message-ID: <041d01c22e15$c0c01580$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
as a low power mobile in the Florida QSO Party I must say it is far more fun to
run stations on CW than to get bits and pieces of and exchange on SSB....the
operator is indeed more of a factor on CW!
BUT this is WRTC which tests all contest skills including maybe knowing when
conditions are good enough to make SSB a viable option...
Ken says:
The actual WRTC results haven't historically supported this hypothesis.
Even in 2000, when the scoring was specifically designed to make CW and
SSB QSOs equally important (by making one's CW or SSB score based upon
a percentage of the highest QSO total made on that mode) the WRTC
operators _still_ on average made more CW QSOs than phone QSOs.
Probably because it was easier - and hence more productive!
In a low power environment nobody can argue successfully with me that CW isn't
a better node!
This is not because I am a code guy - it is because I know what works in
marginal conditions - anybody can run and be king for a limited amount of any
contest - when the worked is not our oyster (which is the bulk of the contest)
is when we see the beauty of CW - even with marginal copy both ends you can
make it happen, those in the know and any top ten finisher in a CW contest will
tell you he won not by those phenomenal peak Euro hours but the fact that he
had a lot of "average" hours where he was successful at running the "pw"
stations.
When you get great CW ops you get some big numbers...at the low part of the
cycle the score will close (SSB vs. CW) because those that are making QSOs
magically happen under strained conditions are doing it on SSB!
We can talk faster with our mouths than our fingers on the whole...but we hear
CW better and that sir is the most important factor in Dxing or Contesting -
you can;t work em if ya can't copy em!
>From jpe at UWasa.Fi Thu Jul 18 09:58:47 2002
From: jpe@UWasa.Fi (Jari Perkiömäki)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OI2HQ Lapua photos online
Message-ID: <200207180558.IAA06967@loisto.uwasa.fi>
Hello,
a photo gallery of the SRAL HQ station OI2HQ in Lapua (15 m CW)
is now available for viewing at
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/gallery/
73 de Jari OH6BG
oh6bg@sral.fi
>From samir at totem.se Thu Jul 18 11:27:03 2002
From: samir@totem.se (Samir SP. Popaja)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W6PU article from CQ Magazine
Message-ID: <D68700EE85B31E4290D0AA4AA87726179FBF@RONJA.totem.net>
Hello,
Does someone have a copy of article
published by W6PU, 4 el. dual-driven quad.
I'm interesting in building it.
Thanks.
Samir, SM7VZX
SM7VZX, ex. SM7/T94BO, SM7/4N4BO, 4N4BO, YU4BO, 4N4A
Samir Popaja, SM7VZX
Lettlandsgatan 2B
SE-214 31 Malm?
Sweden
>From n2nl at yahoo.com Thu Jul 18 06:48:05 2002
From: n2nl@yahoo.com (David Mueller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
In-Reply-To: <013201c22e12$ac7912a0$564d180a@9byjx01>
Message-ID: <20020718124805.5514.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>
China and Brazil were both on the rumor list for the
next one. Most people are thinking it will be in
Brazil....
73, Dave
--- Eric K9GY <K9GY@K9GY.com> wrote:
> I for one would like to see some continental
> differences utilized in the next WRTC.
> It appears that EU and US WRTC geographical coverage
> has been accomplished.
>
> Given that how about Asia or South America?
> Maybe China or Asiatic Russia...Argentina or
> Brazil...
> We can "mix it up" by having it in AS or SA?
>
> Although I think it will be a disappointment to have
> the next WRTC during the solar minimum
> unless the standard setup is going to include nice
> low band antennas :-)
>
> N5TJ & K1TO could then capture the WRTC
> Won-All-Continents!
>
> CQ Contest!
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
>
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>From n2mg at eham.net Thu Jul 18 11:00:09 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Secrets, etc...
Message-ID: <200207181300.g6ID085r018372@contesting.com>
There was a lot of traffic on the reflector in Feb 1996 along these
lines. Take a look at the CQ-Contest archives where N5KO's previously
quoted post was made originally.
http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/1996-February/
Look for threads entitled "secrets", "What REALLY makes you good",
and maybe a few others.
Mike N2MG
>From ha5pp at yahoo.com Thu Jul 18 07:27:27 2002
From: ha5pp@yahoo.com (Zoltan Szoke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 in Finland, WRTC 2004 in ...
Message-ID: <20020718132727.17748.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi Contesters,
First of all CONGRATS TO ALL for the super WRTC 2002
in Finland!
I enjoyed the OJs (K4OJ too, hi) fantastic operation
very much.
One thing is sure with WRTC2004: the winners will be
N5TJ/K1TO. :)))))
73
Zoli
HA5PP
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Thu Jul 18 14:35:04 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW works better!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020718123504.00721748@pop.vnet.net>
K4OJ:
>In a low power environment nobody can argue successfully with me that CW
isn't a better node!
This is also true on the low bands. Proof - compare alltime
SOSB records for CW vs SSB on 160-40 in the CQ WW records here:
http://www.cqww.com/intro.htm
CW and SSB weekends use identical rules and are held at similar times of
year, and CW scores vastly exceed SSB scores in most categories. Here
are 160M comparisons used in our RM-10352 Petition for mode segmentation.
Source: http://members.aol.com/k3bu/W160Records.htm
Average all-time CQ 160 Contest record scores, CW versus SSB:
Area/Category: % CW score exceeds SSB
Africa +585
Asia +44
Europe +123
North America +68
USA +30
Oceania +57
South America +212
Multi-operator +31
Low Power (<100W) +63
QRP (<5W) +98
AVERAGE MARGIN: +128%
Source: http://members.aol.com/k3bu/WWRecords.htm
Average all-time CQ WW record scores (SOSB160), CW versus SSB:
Area/Category: % CW score exceeds SSB
Africa -67
Asia +2
Europe +133
N. America +65
Oceania +52
S. America +152
USA +157
AVERAGE MARGIN: +71%
In the extreme conditions on the low bands, CW rules!
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n2mg at eham.net Thu Jul 18 12:14:41 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] For those who like to search the Archives...
Message-ID: <200207181414.g6IEEe5r019397@contesting.com>
I recently ran several searches of the archives on contesting.com.
(For those who don't know where to do this, go to the "List Search" in
the left menu area of http://www.contesting.com)
Unfortunately, that search tool searches ALL the active reflectors on
contesting.com at once (amps, towertalk, cq-contest, etc.) and one
cannot choose to search only, say, "cq-contest". It has been pointed
out that one could add the specific reflector's name to the search
criteria if one wishes to limit the hits to that reflector. This is a
good idea and effective.
However, there seems to be a "gotcha" in that method, for when one
wishes to search, say, cq-contest, and places "cq-contest" in the
search criteria, one will probably not get any hits before March 1997.
This is because the cq-contest archives appeared to change form around
that time - back then the archive pages for each post did not
necessarily have the term "cq-contest" on them anywhere (the new archives have
it in the reflector's navigation links). Delete the
reference to "cq-contest" in the search criteria and posts from back
that far begin appearing in the hit list. But then, of course, so do
posts from all the other reflectors.
73 Mike N2MG
>From swca at swbell.net Thu Jul 18 10:24:09 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why IARU?
References: <191.9fbca00.2a681284@aol.com>
Message-ID: <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
I got a reply to my question "why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the
IARU Radiosport?" which informed me it was important for the WRTC to be held
during a contest in order to keep participation up. Duh (with respect),
that's not what I meant.
I admit it might not have been clear, but my question was not "why does it
need to be wedded to a contest," but why, specifically, the *IARU*?
The IARU Radiosport is certainly not the contest with the greatest
participation.
I was wondering why it couldn't, for instance, be done over 24 hours in the
CQWW or perhaps some other contest-du-jour. Mode issues? Does it really
come down to this?
Certainly it changes enough each time even within the IARU that there is not
really a case for consistency. Is there?
But seriously, the IARU has some liabilities for WRTC as far as I can tell.
Ultimately I would think this event would benefit from consistency, i.e. an
identical event each time, but is this even possible?
Is the WRTC Committee that was formed long ago still at work?
Is the WRTC evolving into such a fantastic, legitimate event that it could
justify its own event? Is this so huge that it could justify retiring
another event to keep the calendar reasonable? Would the I-A-R-Union
themselves consider allowing the Radiosport to get moved out of July and be
re-designed to center on the WRTC? Should the I-A-R-Union actually globally
administrate the WRTC? Should regional qualifying events be held during
this contest in non-WRTC years? Should there be separate CW WRTCs and Phone
WRTCs?
Just wondering.
Mark, N5OT
>From geoiii at kkn.net Thu Jul 18 09:03:46 2002
From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III - K5TR)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW works better!
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020718123504.00721748@pop.vnet.net>; from Bill Tippett
on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 01:35:04PM +0100
References: <1.5.4.32.20020718123504.00721748@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <20020718080346.B28645@loja.kkn.net>
On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 01:35:04PM +0100, Bill Tippett wrote:
> K4OJ:
> >In a low power environment nobody can argue successfully with me that CW
> isn't a better node!
>
> This is also true on the low bands. Proof - compare alltime
> SOSB records for CW vs SSB on 160-40 in the CQ WW records here:
While I will not dispute that CW does better in getting
through the noise on these bands - I think that more of the
score diffrences can be attributed to these problems:
- Lack of ssb frequency alignment on the low bands.
This forces the use of split frequency operation.
- Very limited frequency ranges in some countries.
There is not very much bandwidth to jam the
SSB signals into.
>
> http://www.cqww.com/intro.htm
>
> CW and SSB weekends use identical rules and are held at similar times of
> year, and CW scores vastly exceed SSB scores in most categories. Here
> are 160M comparisons used in our RM-10352 Petition for mode segmentation.
>
160m is the worst for all of the above reasons.
>
> Average all-time CQ WW record scores (SOSB160), CW versus SSB:
>
> Area/Category: % CW score exceeds SSB
> Africa -67
> Asia +2
> Europe +133
> N. America +65
> Oceania +52
> S. America +152
> USA +157
>
> AVERAGE MARGIN: +71%
>
> In the extreme conditions on the low bands, CW rules!
Ditto.
Dont you think the 160 scores might have more to do
with limited band allocations and in some cases no
band allocations on 160 than they
have to do with other factors?
How do QSO totals in the 160m SSB contest compair to the
QSO totals in the CQ 160 CW contest?
(I dont know.)
--
George Fremin III - K5TR
geoiii@kkn.net
http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>From wk6i at twistedoak.com Thu Jul 18 09:13:29 2002
From: wk6i@twistedoak.com (Jeff Stai WK6I)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why IARU?
In-Reply-To: <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
References: <191.9fbca00.2a681284@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020718080740.037e2e50@mail.megapathdsl.net>
At 07:24 AM 7/18/2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
>I admit it might not have been clear, but my question was not "why does it
>need to be wedded to a contest," but why, specifically, the *IARU*?
>
>The IARU Radiosport is certainly not the contest with the greatest
>participation.
Two reactions:
1. Why make it so easy for WRTC to find stations? (I have no personal
knowledge to back this up, but I expect fishing contests do not take place
in a heavily stocked lake...;-)
2. There was plenty of participation this year - I played S&P this year and
never lacked for stations to work (until nightfall, when my inadequate low
band antennas let me down). I'll note that the 'dual mode' nature of IARU
effectively 'doubles' the bands available to play in....
73! - jeff wk6i
Jeff Stai Twisted Oak Winery LLC
Email jds@twistedoak.com
Amateur Radio WK6I
ROC Web Page http://www.rocstock.org/
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Thu Jul 18 11:17:32 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why IARU?
In-Reply-To: <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>; from Mark Beckwith on Thu,
Jul 18, 2002 at 09:24:09AM -0500
References: <191.9fbca00.2a681284@aol.com> <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Message-ID: <20020718101732.E1289@cs.utexas.edu>
On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:24:09AM -0500, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> I was wondering why it couldn't, for instance, be done over 24 hours in the
> CQWW or perhaps some other contest-du-jour. Mode issues? Does it really
> come down to this?
Yes, but it is more than that.
One of the wonderful things about the IARU is that it is (a) not a single
band contest, which forces the teams to think about band changes, and (b)
it is both a CW and SSB contest, which makes it important that a team
excel at both modes. The IARU is by far the largest and most active contest
that meets these two requirements.
Another advantage to IARU is that it is a big contest without being _the_
big contest. A lot of the top contest ops like to be DX during the CQWW,
for instance, and asking the top contesters to give that up for WRTC might
not work. Asking them to plan on taking their summer vacation in the
European countryside or Rio De Janeiro or the beaches of Florida makes the
competition more attractive for the top competitors and judges to attend.
--
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Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From kg2au at stny.rr.com Thu Jul 18 12:31:37 2002
From: kg2au@stny.rr.com (Jimmy Weierich)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB Vs. CW QSO's in a Contest
In-Reply-To: <20020717204005.B23300@loja.kkn.net>
References:
<000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
<20020717204005.B23300@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <a05100300b95c883eb08e@[66.24.254.199]>
>On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 08:31:51PM -0400, Sean D. Fleming wrote:
>
>> I am not the greatest CW copier at all. I even have to use CWget to
>> copy cy at speeds sent by contesting stations. But I look at like
>> the subbmision of CW op K9LA with like 3,100 CW QSo's made in 24
>> Hours. Then I wonder well can you make SSB contacts faster than CW
>> contacts and what is it I am lacking to make more SSB contacts. Is
>> it Filters? Is it Large Antennas? Is it just the lack of fastness of
> > talking. Put some input in.
The scores posted on you're website remind me of my first two years
of contesting, 1995-6. I've made some progress since then, but still
have a long way to go.
As George (K5TR) said, a tribander will make more difference than you
would ever believe.
However, as George also says, the thing that will improve your scores
most is dirt cheap, at least in dollar cost, - hard work and practice!
Listed below is a post that inspired me to improve my skills when I
was at about the stage you are at and beginning to get discouraged of
ever improving. This post was aimed at some posters who were whining,
but also applies to anyone who wants to improve their contesting
skills. Thanks again Rob!
X-Sender: rhummel@204.97.16.3
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To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
From: rhummel@monad.net (Rob Hummel)
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX whining vs winning
Sender: owner-cq-contest@contesting.com
Precedence: bulk
X-Sponsor: W4AN, KM3T, N5KO & AD1C
I've read with interest and horror some of the opinions and statements that
have been put forth on the topic of the WPX and contests in general, how
they're scored, and how they're unfair.
I'm very concerned that new or prospective contesters will read this and get
the impression that the winners got what they got because they're privileged
somehow. That winners are, in essence, cheaters. Because if the winners
weren't cheating, they couldn't have beat all those virtuous losers. That,
in fact, any activity where someone loses is -- by definition -- unfair.
Contesting is competition -- plain and simple. There are no second-place
winners. The term for those who don't win is "loser." There is no shame in
losing. I have been a loser many times. Winning feels good, but losing
educates you. Ask my 6-year old daughter what being a loser means and she'll
tell you without hesitation: it means you have to try harder. No one ever
won a contest by whining.
If you want to be competitive, you must do everything within your power (and
the rules) to maximize your advantages and minimize your disadvantages.
Complaining that a contest is unfair accomplishes nothing except to brand
you as a bitter, dissatisfied, jaded, jealous naysayer.
Ignore advice or whining from folks who don't even participate in the
contest. What can they possibly tell you except how to be a bitter loser? If
you want to win, associate around winners.
If you want to be competitive, you must be positive. Here are some suggestions.
1. Aquire as much knowledge as possible about the contest.
First, learn the rules of the contest. That means knowing the exchange and
the scoring. It also means understanding what strategy you should use to
maximize your score. Figure out how long should you chase a multiplier and
how many Qs do you need to be competitive.
Figure out if a mult or a 3-point qso is more valuable to you toward the end
of the contest. Calculate how many mults you will need to be competitive.
2. Decide where to point your antenna and when.
You must understand how propagation affects your area. Read the propagation
forecasts and make sure you understand them. Know where your greyline goes.
Know when 40m opens and 20m closes. Keep an extra antenna and radio tuned to
popular 10m frequencies (you know them because you researched, right?) to
check for band openings.
3. Study the local competition.
Study the scores, mults, and prefixes worked by those in your area. Call
them or write them and find out their strategies. (Of course, they may not
want to tell you!) Ask for copies of their logs. Study where they pointed
their antennas and when. Find out what bands they favored and why.
Anyone who beats you is in a position to teach you something. Instead of
reviling them, study them. Don't forget the other end of the spectrum. Some
of the most valuable lessons I've learned have come from low-power stations
with wire antennas.
4. Know the field.
Study the contest results from the past 2-3 years. You must know the calls
that were active. You must know if any special DX stations be on. You should
know who you'll be listening for.
You must know the frequencies that JAs can use on 80m. You should know the
40m allocation world-wide. You should know where VKs will be on the low
bands. Instead of figuring out why the contest is unfair, learn how to work it.
5. Improve your station.
Learn the truth about feedline matching, antenna loss, VSWR, directivity,
and gain. That means read and study. That means experiment. That means cut
and try.
Shrug off the myths embraced by the mediocre. Don't listen to people who
tell you that 2:1 SWR is good enough because all the power goes somewhere
eventually. Or that 9913 is lossless at HF. Or that a 1 dB difference in a
signal is unnoticable at either end. Or that connector loss is negligable.
All those statements are lies. Find out why.
Work on your antennas. Nothing is perfect or stays that way. Put up new
antennas. Try wires. Try loops. Try beverages. Try low-noise receive
antennas. Try slopers. Try, try, try. All these antennas are relatively
low-cost.
6. Learn your radio.
All (well, most) of those knobs on your radio have a purpose. Find out what
they do. Read and study the manual. Do you know where the manual is?
If you can quickly set a split frequency, you might be the first to work a
new station of 40m. If you learn how to use those 100+ memories efficiently,
you can stack up big stations and throw your call in rapidly to 2, 5, or
more stations simultaneously.
Get all your filters in place. Get a voice keyer. Learn your DSP. Get a
better mike. Tweak the audio until it sounds crystal clear and with all the
punch of a buzz saw cutting through aluminum. Remember that setting for the
contest, then turn it back to mushy so the boys on 80m don't complain.
7. WORK the contest.
If you're going to work a contest, then, by God, WORK IT. A 48-hour contest
runs for 48 hours. If you want to be competitive, you will run for 48 hours
too. Hey, if you can't, then you can't. But then don't whine about not winning.
The single biggest weapon that a small pistol has is persistance. I've heard
lectures from big guns where they advocate switching bands when your QSO
rate drops below 60/hour. That's okay for a big gun, but here are some
suprising statistics:
* At a rate of 60 Qs/hour, you would work 2,880 stations in a 48-hour contest.
* At 30/hour, you'd work 1,440 stations in a 48-hour contest.
* Even a rate of 15/hour (only one QSO every 4 minutes!), you'd still work
720 stations in 48 hours!
How many Qs did you work in the last contest? I've WON contests where I
didn't make 720 total Qs.
Cherry pickers don't win. If you give up when the time between Qs stretches
out to 4, 6, 10, or more minutes, you give up your competitiveness. A
contesters mettle is measured in the dead of night when calling CQ endlessly
on a seemingly dead band or when tuning 20m or 40m or any other band
straining to pull that next new station out of the noise. (Hint: This is
where 1 dB or less makes all the difference in the world.)
8. Have fun.
Winning is fun. But so is competiting. It's great fun being a part of an
overall event that's larger than some petty self-centered concern about
whether your QTH is "unfairly disadvantaged." If you want to have fun in a
contest, find people who are having fun and do what they're doing. Don't be
poisoned by the facile argument that a contest where everyone isn't a winner
is unfair and unfair is no fun.
Everything is fun if it involves amateur radio.
* I love working SSB, CW, and RTTY contests -- although my skill in each
mode varies widely.
* I love domestic contests. I don't like the spate of non-SASE cards they
generate, but I answer every one -- I will NOT be responsible for
discouraging a ham for a few bucks.
* I love DX contests. Every time I hear GW4BLE or ON4UN or EA7USA it's the
same thrill.
* Everytime someone remembers my call I light up like a little kid. Gosh,
they remember me!
* I love working the all-Bulgaria QSO party and being the only USA entry --
winning with 4 QSOs!
* I highlight my name in every contest result that published. What a thrill!
Any contest I miss I consider a failure. Every contest I make is a victory.
[Conclusion]
If you like contests or think you might, understand that there are hundreds
and thousands of like-minded souls out there who want you to be the best you
can be. We'll help, encourage, and congratulate you for every QSO you make
and every log you submit. Every DX station is looking for you. Every QSL you
get is a thank you.
Ignore the bitter, the miserable, and the perpetually dissatisifed. They're
not your compeitition; they're QRM.
Rob Hummel (WS1A) <rhummel@monad.net>
--
Jimmy Weierich, K2LV, ex KG2AU <kg2au@stny.rr.com>
Vestal, NY USA FN12xa
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Thu Jul 18 12:29:43 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why IARU?
References: <191.9fbca00.2a681284@aol.com> <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Message-ID: <3D36DEE7.9ADDD05F@gte.net>
Mark Beckwith wrote:
> I admit it might not have been clear, but my question was not "why
> does it need to be wedded to a contest," but why, specifically, the
> *IARU*?
A couple thoughts come to mind ...
Contest that allows "mixed mode" - what the WRTC teams will need to
maximize their score.
24 hours - means teams will need to know propagation and what bands to
be on when. They won't get a second chance the next day.
Scoring - we're chasing zones, so not many DXpeditions activating rare
"country multipliers" to distract from the WRTC competitors.
Weather - at least in the Northern Hemisphere (where all previous WRTC's
have been held), it's summertime, which usually means nice weather for
building 52 stations and other "festivities" associated with WRTC.
> Certainly it changes enough each time even within the IARU that there
> is not really a case for consistency. Is there?
>
> But seriously, the IARU has some liabilities for WRTC as far as I can
> tell.
Like what?
> Ultimately I would think this event would benefit from consistency,
> i.e. an identical event each time, but is this even possible?
IARU is consistent ... just like any other contest. And like every
other contest, it varies from year to year, day to day, and from hour to
hour. That's what makes them fun ... one never knows what to expect ...
the better ops adapt to what they are given.
> Is the WRTC evolving into such a fantastic, legitimate event that
> it could justify its own event? Is this so huge that it could
> justify retiring another event to keep the calendar reasonable?
> Would the I-A-R-Union themselves consider allowing the Radiosport to
> get moved out of July and be re-designed to center on the WRTC?
Why? The activity levels are such, that WRTC can fit within IARU. Why
a "new" event with new rules? We'd all work the 52 teams and then go
QRT? That's no fun.
> Should regional qualifying events be held during this contest in
> non-WRTC years?
In other WRTC's, past contest scores were used to select participants,
so every contest is basically a qualifying event!
> Should there be separate CW WRTCs and Phone WRTCs?
No ... a "mixed mode" competition allows the best overall operators to
duke it out ... not just the best CW or SSB ops. If you want to win,
you have to be good in both modes.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"! Yeah, you can tweak it from WRTC to
WRTC, but it's been successful so far since the 1990 running ... why
mess with it?
Ron, WD4AHZ
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Thu Jul 18 17:17:27 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
<001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <3D36EA17.1C9C49EC@directvinternet.com>
"Peter Grillo, Sr." wrote:
>
> YU7BW (OJ2Q) had 254 QSO's on 20 SSB 1st hour!
Well, perhaps one more story. In the late 80s, I and several others
operated the
CQWWSSB from V47. Now, to show the rediculous, we arranged for a top
JA ( think his
name was Yosi ) to be part of our team. Flew him over here at our
expense, ect. Although he did operate other bands, his primary use was
when openings to JA occured in late afternoon. His rate was absolutely
fantastic, over 400+ per hour, and of course, in Japanese.
So that may well be a consideration the next time a team is put
together. Believe me, he had his buddies at home lined up like ducks
in a shooting gallary. No doubt, the discipline of the JAs was also a
factor.
And yes, we did win.
73
ed, k4sb
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Jul 18 13:32:05 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] why pic IARU Radiosport to marry WRTC?
References: <200207181544.g6IFiQ5r020981@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <00a601c22e78$a9d72e40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Re: Why IARU?
Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
Mark, N5OT
My take:
Summary - It is perfect fit - othwer than n0t being at the best time of year
for radio propagation!
Why:
...the event has to take place in the context of another contest - why upset
the two biggees - CQWW and ARRL - they are the Kings
...the event has to be during a contest which allows both phone and cw
operating to be showcased - need I say more
...W's need to be able to work W's and DL's need to be able to work DL's -
when susnspot conditions are low and you have marginalized DXing you still
need rate!
.......is there another bi-modal worldwide event that is on all the HF bands
that will work?
Don't think so!
What do you propose Mark???????????????
Jim, K4OJ
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Thu Jul 18 17:40:16 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW works better!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020718154016.0073befc@pop.vnet.net>
Hi George!
K5TR wrote:
>While I will not dispute that CW does better in getting
through the noise on these bands - I think that more of the
score diffrences can be attributed to these problems:
1 - Lack of ssb frequency alignment on the low bands.
This forces the use of split frequency operation.
2 - Very limited frequency ranges in some countries.
There is not very much bandwidth to jam the
SSB signals into.
1. 40 and 80 must operate split between Region 2 and
Regions 1 & 3 for the most part...but that has not been the case
for 160 which has identical favorable results for CW as on
the other two bands. Of course, I maintain SSB scores on 160
will actually go up if we segment and DX operates split. The
simple reason is that DX will not be buried underneath extremely
strong local US stations continuously CQ-ing on top of them.
2. Part of the problem with SSB is that it is a
bandwidth hog. When you try to crowd an equivalent number
of contesters into the same low band frequencies, the narrow
bandwidth mode will always win. The inverse of this is 10-20
meters where SSB usually wins. On 10 meters, with effectively
no bandwidth limit on either mode, SSB wins by about 50% (my CQ
WW SSB record is 1.464M versus my CW record of 0.965M).
>Dont you think the 160 scores might have more to do
with limited band allocations and in some cases no
band allocations on 160 than they
have to do with other factors?
Not at all. It has more to do with the fact that a
narrow bandwidth mode allows better copy of weak signals
because the narrower bandwidth allows better rejection of
interference, noise, etc. This is the same reason that digital
modes work well in extracting signals from noise. Programs
like WSJT, QRSS/Spectrascan, etc effectively make EXTREMELY narrow
bandwidths using DSP that allow copy even below the noise floor
(of course I personally do not think a computer-to-computer
WSJT or QRSS "QSO" means much but that's another topic!)
>How do QSO totals in the 160m SSB contest compair to the
QSO totals in the CQ 160 CW contest?
(I dont know.)
In general, SSB QSO totals are higher in the CQ 160 SSB,
especially so for stations in the middle of the US, which can be
seen here (CW contintental and USA records listed before SSB on
the same page):
http://members.aol.com/k3bu/W160Records.htm
However, CQ 160 CW SCORES are higher because CW works better for
weak-signal DX resulting in higher multipliers and points/QSO.
BTW, total participation in the CQ 160 SSB and CW is almost
identical, so the difference cannot be explained by activity
levels. In the CQ WW, 160 CW QSO totals are generally higher than
SSB because that contest tends to be more DX to DX (favoring CW's
superiority in working weak DX signals) compared to the CQ 160
which is more weighted to local QSO's (at least in the USA).
73, Bill W4ZV
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Thu Jul 18 15:35:49 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
<001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
<3D36EA17.1C9C49EC@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <3D370A85.3D5A1FBE@gte.net>
K4SB wrote:
> So that may well be a consideration the next time a team is put
> together. Believe me, he had his buddies at home lined up like ducks
> in a shooting gallary.
Which is why this is against WRTC rules!
5. Language
Only English language and common international abbreviations can be
used - both on SSB and CW.
8. Soliciting QSOs
... The operators are not allowed to identify, who they personally
are or which team they are.
Someone speaking Japanese, Russian, etc., would pretty much identify
who the teams are.
Ron
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 18 12:48:44 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Georgia QSO Party This Weekend
Message-ID: <20020718184844.39328.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
Hello Fellow Contesters,
If you had fun chasing OJ's around in IARU last weekend you can have
just as much fun this weekend chasing rovers (and working fixed
stations) in the 159 counties of Georgia. The South East Contest Club
and the Southeastern DX Club invite you to participate in the 2002
version of the Georgia QSO party.
There are two operating periods. 1800Z July 20 - 0359Z July 21 and
1400Z July 21 - 2359Z July 21. 20 hours total. All stations may
operate the full 20 hours. There is an impressive array of plaques that
can be had for alittle bit of work on your part.
Please see the GQP webpage at http://gqp.contesting.com for
the complete rules , list of awards, and downloads for your favorite
logging program. Hope to hear you on and as K4OJ would say "Only 2 more
days until the GQP !"
73's Jeff KU8E
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>From john.devoldere at pandora.be Thu Jul 18 20:03:18 2002
From: john.devoldere@pandora.be (john devoldere, ON4UN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
References: <20020718124805.5514.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005501c22e8d$c7b7e7a0$6201a8c0@RUN1>
... as well as Germany and A61.
John, ON4UN
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Mueller" <n2nl@yahoo.com>
To: "Eric K9GY" <K9GY@K9GY.com>; "Contest Reflector"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
> China and Brazil were both on the rumor list for the
> next one. Most people are thinking it will be in
> Brazil....
>
> 73, Dave
>
> --- Eric K9GY <K9GY@K9GY.com> wrote:
> > I for one would like to see some continental
> > differences utilized in the next WRTC.
> > It appears that EU and US WRTC geographical coverage
> > has been accomplished.
> >
> > Given that how about Asia or South America?
> > Maybe China or Asiatic Russia...Argentina or
> > Brazil...
> > We can "mix it up" by having it in AS or SA?
> >
> > Although I think it will be a disappointment to have
> > the next WRTC during the solar minimum
> > unless the standard setup is going to include nice
> > low band antennas :-)
> >
> > N5TJ & K1TO could then capture the WRTC
> > Won-All-Continents!
> >
> > CQ Contest!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Thu Jul 18 16:39:07 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] speaking of parts prices...
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020718153646.00a5f9a0@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
What's with Heil? They used to have a good reputation for providing small
parts reasonably, but I recently bought a boom clip and a pair of earpads
for a BM-10 from them. The charge was $5.00 for each item, plus $3.00 S&H,
and they arrived USPS in a box with 60 cents postage on it. Yes, I know
about the cost of handling small orders, but I think these prices have it
built in several times over...
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From swca at swbell.net Thu Jul 18 16:26:43 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] World Champion
References: <200207181544.g6IFiQ5r020981@contesting.com>
<00a601c22e78$a9d72e40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <093001c22e99$70df1fa0$0100a8c0@TL01>
I have gotten maybe 2x the number of comments direct to me that have been
aired on cq-contest. I am beginning to see some basic stuff emerge from the
replies.
Everyone agrees (except me, I guess) that the WRTC event must meet these
criteria:
1. It must be an international event
2. It must be on both modes
3. It shouldn't be during an established MAJOR event i.e. CQWW or ARRL
One respondent also pointed out that July basically ensures a good turnout.
I'll buy that. I guess. In the Northern Hemisphere, at least.
Okay, so the IARU fits all these qualifications, but has the glaring
shortcoming of crappy conditions on the low bands.
>What do you propose Mark?
Gosh, now that you ask:
I think the concept of on-site competition for contesting's best should be
substantially more popular. If this were the case, perhaps holding it
during each mode of the CQWW would not be "a pesky annoyance," as many seem
to feel it would be, but - get this - "an honor."
I agree that at the moment this is not practical. However, I know plenty of
guys who already go away (i.e. to foriegn countries at great expense) for
both weekends of the CQWW and have for many years. In fact, many of them
happened to be in Finland last weekend. I think it's all a matter of the
quality of the event, the reputation, and the value of the results. And,
for that matter, the budget. WRTC is a great event, and the Finns took it
to new heights, but it is not "there yet."
One day the value of "world champion" might be more valuable than "winner of
the CQ worldwide." It's not yet.
Oh, and personally, I think it would be better if it were for CW single
operators, but that's just my selfish opinion - I'll take whatever I can
get and WRTC is a huge step in the right direction.
So that's what I am thinking. I'll shut up now for a few more years until
the sunspots come back.
Mark, N5OT
>From swca at swbell.net Thu Jul 18 16:35:06 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Unclear English alert continues
References: <000001c22e63$1c5b2310$6807a8c0@ac7nj>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020718135644.05716c40@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <093c01c22e9a$9c137f80$0100a8c0@TL01>
On this very reflector not an hour ago:
>75-ohm 3/4" CATV hardline...can often be bought for free.
Can you make change for a $0.00?
:)
>From juha.valimaki at lut.fi Fri Jul 19 00:23:53 2002
From: juha.valimaki@lut.fi (Juha Valimaki)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] C5- The Gambia ops needed Cq ww cw 2002
Message-ID: <1027023833.3d3723d9ea6e2@fela.cc.lut.fi>
C53M operators needed cq ww cw 2002
I am looking for more operators to join OH-based team operating from Gambia
(C5) in Cq ww cw 2002. Operating class at the moment seems to be M/S. This is a
suitcase style operation but we will try to have effective directional antennas
also in mult stations. Good low band verticals in the beach are also in the
list.
If interested contact oh9mm@sral.fi for further info.
Scandinavian ops: This is a ?normal? Tj?reborg ?charter trip. We will fly via
Stockholm so joining us could not be any easier. We have also negotiated a
group price...
73
Juha, OH9MM
----
Juha V?lim?ki
Teknologiapuistonkatu 4 A 1 GSM: +358 40 7041433
53850 lappeen Ranta e-mail's: juha.valimaki@lut.fi or oh9mm@sral.fi
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Thu Jul 18 19:11:32 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [TRLog] Various IARU issues
Message-ID: <14b.110b03ba.2a689714@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/18/2002 11:04:02 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
n0ss@earthlink.net writes:
> In the heat of a contest, it is sometimes difficult to remember to "QRL"
> each time you think you've found a clear freq, I must admit.
I program "?" into F6 and "QRL?' into F7. I try to remember to hit F7 every
time I find a new frequency for starting a run. I also use a Dymo Labelmaker
to mark all Function keys.
73, Geo...J75KG/K5KG
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Thu Jul 18 19:30:36 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs to move
to the new modes
and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL agrees)
that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal environments.
Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the noise
threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD applications
and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
73 Dave K4JRB
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Thu Jul 18 19:02:24 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] why pic IARU Radiosport to marry WRTC?
In-Reply-To: <00a601c22e78$a9d72e40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJGECOEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Isn't WRTC a big social event, too?
If it was in with any other big time contest or it's own contest, it seems
to me that that might take away from the social gathering aspects of the
event.
73,
dale, kg5u
>
> Re: Why IARU?
>
> Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
>
>
>
> My take:
>
> Summary - It is perfect fit - othwer than n0t being at the best
> time of year
> for radio propagation!
>
> Why:
>
> ...the event has to take place in the context of another contest
> - why upset
> the two biggees - CQWW and ARRL - they are the Kings
>
> ...the event has to be during a contest which allows both phone and cw
> operating to be showcased - need I say more
>
> ...W's need to be able to work W's and DL's need to be able to work DL's -
> when susnspot conditions are low and you have marginalized DXing you still
> need rate!
>
> .......is there another bi-modal worldwide event that is on all
> the HF bands
> that will work?
>
> Don't think so!
>
> What do you propose Mark???????????????
>
>
> Jim, K4OJ
>
>
>
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>From llindblom at juno.com Fri Jul 19 02:14:41 2002
From: llindblom@juno.com (Larry L Lindblom)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [TCG] NAQP RTTY TEAMS: LAST CALL
Message-ID: <20020719.012111.-625929.3.LLindblom@juno.com>
One more chance for anyone and everyone to join us on a TCG team for NAQP
RTTY. As you can see from those who have signed on the TCG now has an
international line up and welcomes anyone else who wants to have fun to
join us.
The line up so far includes:
W4GKM
K4RO
W4BCG
N1NB
KE4OAR
N2WK
W5CTV
AI9T
VE9DX
W4OX
W4LC
NY1S
KB5BOB
NN4T
VA3WN
PJ2EL
8P6SH
W9HLY
K9SZ
VA7SW
IK0HBN
W0ETC
Twenty-two people have signed on so there will be at least five TCG
teams. Team names under consideration include Hot Dogs, Hound Dogs, Junk
Yard Dogs, Cool Cats, and Alley Cats. Be you a growler or a hisser, be
you full time or part time, be you in the USA or elsewhere you are
welcome to join with us on a team.
Don't miss out on the team competition. E-mail me direct and you can
play with us. As always if your call is missing from the list please
resend your e-mail as I might of fat fingered it into the trash by
mistake.
73 & GL to all
W0ETC in IA
>From k5na at texas.net Fri Jul 19 03:42:30 2002
From: k5na@texas.net (Richard L. King)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719020602.02530b00@pop.texas.net>
2002 IARU Contest
W1AW/5 ARRL Headquarters Station
Location - Central Texas (Austin, Texas area)
CW Phone
Total
Band QSOs Points QSOs Points QSOs
Points Mults
160 177 375 156 296 333
671 11
80 329 771 444 1048 773
1819 27
40 824 2545 760 1778 1584
4323 55
20 1594 5966 2319 7522 3913
13488 87
15 1274 4766 1585 5339 2859
10105 92
10 402 1098 467 1277 869
2375 39
Total 4600 15521 5731 17260 10331
32781 311
Claimed Score: 32,781 x 311 = 10,194,891
This past year has been a busy one here in Central Texas while we prepared
for W1AW/5. Though we were given the W1AW/5 assignment over 3 years ago,
the planning got started in seriousness a year ago immediately after the
2001 IARU.
Six of the premier Central Texas stations agreed to participate - K5NA,
K5TR, N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT. Each of these stations could have been a
powerhouse on any of the bands or modes but the assignments were:
K5NA - 80M CW, 40M CW, & 15M SSB.
K5TR - 80M SSB & 20M SSB
N5CQ - 10M CW
N5TW - 160M CW & 20M CW.
NX5M - 160M SSB & 10M SSB.
W5KFT - 40M SSB & 15M SSB
W5XD wrote a special version of WriteLog for use by the headquarters
stations. Basically the new version allowed us to connect to a central
Internet server that fed QSOs back to all the W1AW/5 sites in real-time.
Each site could always tell what QSOs and mults each of the other band/mode
sites needed. The software also fed the frequencies of the radios back to
everyone to allow each station to move QSOs to other bands easily.
We had a total of about 15 computers set up at all the sites and each ended
up with the same QSO and multiplier numbers at the end of the contest. The
software was really awesome.
The 24 hours of the IARU were noisy because Central Texas was being hit
with wave after wave of thunderstorms. This condition caused high QRM on
all the bands and especially affected the low bands. The thunderstorms had
been occurring for several days before the contest and there was a lot of
flooding in the area. But no W1AW/5 sites were affected by flooding. The
rain static and thunderstorms were another matter.
The thunderstorms forced the N5TW, NX5M, & W5KFT sites to shut down at
different times during the contest as thunder cells passed by. Since the
logging system was real-time and current at all the sites, it was possible
for other sites to start working the vacated band/modes almost immediately
after the affected stations were shut down. A lot of cell phone calls were
made to coordinate this. Later the band/modes were switched back to the
original stations.
Our goal was to beat the old W1AW/p record set by W1AW/4 in 2000. However,
10 meters just didn't have much in the way of good conditions here and we
fell a little short. With sun spots going down, the W1AW/4 record may stand
for a few years. Our secondary goal was to beat NU1AW and the other
headquarters stations. But I haven't heard any other official HQ scores yet.
All the stations owners and operators had a great time doing this. It was
great fun.
Thanks to the K1ZZ and the ARRL for allowing us to do W1AW/5 in this
contest. Also thanks to W5XD for his work developing his terrific software
to support our effort and to AB5K for the special telnet node used
exclusively by all the W1AW/5 stations.
There will be more detailed information and breakdowns of the W1AW/5 effort
available on the net very soon.
73, Richard - K5NA
k5na@texas.net
>From ah3c at frii.com Thu Jul 18 20:14:21 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
<001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
<3D36EA17.1C9C49EC@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000401c22ed1$32833f60$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
I neglected to mention that all QSO's were in English with perfect use of
international phonetics. As referee, it was interesting to pick up the
requests for repeats during this run.....I counted 6! Robert has a great
SSB base voice (like OH2BH, N6TJ, and others). I did not count the number
of YU's worked during this run. I don't have the disk. The referee point
of view will be the subject of an article for NCJ.
----- Original Message -----
From: "K4SB" <hamcat@directvinternet.com>
To: "[Contest Reflector]" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
> "Peter Grillo, Sr." wrote:
> >
> > YU7BW (OJ2Q) had 254 QSO's on 20 SSB 1st hour!
>
> Well, perhaps one more story. In the late 80s, I and several others
> operated the
> CQWWSSB from V47. Now, to show the rediculous, we arranged for a top
> JA ( think his
> name was Yosi ) to be part of our team. Flew him over here at our
> expense, ect. Although he did operate other bands, his primary use was
> when openings to JA occured in late afternoon. His rate was absolutely
> fantastic, over 400+ per hour, and of course, in Japanese.
>
> So that may well be a consideration the next time a team is put
> together. Believe me, he had his buddies at home lined up like ducks
> in a shooting gallary. No doubt, the discipline of the JAs was also a
> factor.
>
> And yes, we did win.
>
> 73
> ed, k4sb
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>From k5zd at charter.net Fri Jul 19 04:35:29 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
In-Reply-To: <200207162046.g6GKkU5r012628@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDGEOLDKAA.k5zd@charter.net>
It is difficult to get logging software perfect for a contest that only
occurs every 2, 4, or 6 years and has different rules each time! N6TR,
K1EA, and W5XD (+SM6SRW) all did extra work to support WRTC. All
competitors were able to successfully log the contest!
What is interesting (and unexpected to me) is all the discussion about
logging software and scoring that has been generated. All of it due to the
online score reporting during the contest! I think we all know how funny
things that impact the score can get into a log during the contest and are
usually repaired before the log is submitted. With the WRTC online
reporting experiment, we got to see just how wildly varying some of these
things can be!
They do nothing to detract from the contest. They do point out some things
that could be further improved for future online score reporting
experiments.
The goal of the online reporting was to make the contest more visible to
everyone. In that regard, it was every bit as successful as had been hoped.
Give OH6KN and his team a pat on the back for pulling it off. It was fun.
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Mike Gilmer, N2MG
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 20:47 PM
> To: CQ-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
>
>
> I don't think I'd want to be the one to tell a WRTC competitor who has
> used CT for 10 years that he has to learn TRLog or SuperDuper or
> whatever. I believe it's pretty much the same reasoning behind letting
> the ops choose their own radios.
>
> But I agree that the software should have been tested...alas. It'll be
> interesting to see just what the bug was.
>
> -Mike N2MG
>
> The following message was sent by "David L. Thompson"
> <thompson@mindspring.com> on Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:40:50 -0400.
>
> > It seems that with all the effort to provide similar
> transceiver, location,
> > and antennas that the same software would be used. And the
> software should
> > be tested beforehand.
> >
> > I always run several different logs through my CQ 160 software
> each year to
> > assure its checking OK and get rid of bugs. Writelog authors and
> > supporters including K9JY say that for each contest you should
> always set up
> > a test log and give it a spin before the contest. With N6AA,
> K5ZD and other
> > logging experts on hand this should have been fundamental.
> >
> > I am also concerned that the address for e-mail logs filled up
> and kicked
> > back some logs.
> >
> > Otherwise congratulations to the contestants and sponsors.
> >
> > 73 Dave K4JRB
>
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>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 18 21:34:08 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
References: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DD7@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Message-ID: <00e601c22ed5$25f7be20$5a2afea9@sbcglobal.net>
Nope. Bug in the software caused all columns to be mis-aligned when station
worked again on subsequent band. Also then counted these as "new HQ mults",
grossly overstating the HQ mults real-time. We knew we could correct the
imbalance post-contest, but unfortunately the G.D. real-time scoreboard was
out there. At least it appears that it gave the old-timers someone to cheer
for.
While the software problem was a major distraction throughout the contest,
no excuses are offered here. We had a great time, a wonderful host/hostess
@ OH2HUH, a FB referee in OH6RX, and a very competitive station. We wish
now we could have a "do-over"!
All-in-all, a not to be missed event, and I hope the next one will be no
more than two years hence.
Our congratulations to all who played, and especially the Top Ten teams,
headed aptly by Jeff and Dan. (And as my wife observes, the most "normal"
guys there. Hmmm.........).
Our OH friends are also to be thanked for the very hard work they put in to
the games. It showed.
73
Jim Neiger
N6TJ ( OJ2F w/ N6AA)
(just off plane from Paris, and too pooped)
----- Original Message -----
From: <jukka.klemola@nokia.com>
To: <k6km@cncnet.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
> Winners N5TJ & K1TO
> Second RA3AUU & RV1AW
> Third DL6FBL & DL2CC
>
> AA & TJ lost a lot from their score, I do not
> have details of the reasons, but understanding
> is other one used caps lock and the other did not
> so some multis were counted twice.
>
> 73,
> Jukka
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ext Bill [mailto:k6km@cncnet.com]
> > Sent: 16 July, 2002 07:53
> > To: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi
> > Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hei OH-land!
> >
> > What is happening there?
> >
> > Please tell us supporters of WRTC02 WHO WON the
> > competition!
> >
> > Obviously there were some scoring problems, most
> > notably with N6TJ and N6AA. PLEASE tell us why their
> > score decreased as time passed; that should not be possible.
> >
> > PLEASE tell us why the N5KO/9V1YC score went
> > flat in the last few hours.
> >
> > PLEASE tell us which teams were associated with which
> > OJ callsigns!
> >
> > PLEASE tell us what's going on. To me, the delay in
> > reporting results means that POLITICS is coming in
> > to play and POLITICS may be more meaningful than
> > PERFORMANCE in determing the final results.
> >
> > PLEASE prove me wrong.
> >
> > As any one might expect, Team Finland did a wonderful
> > job preparing for and hosting WRTC 2002. Thank you
> > for that. But WHY have you kept the world in ignorance
> > as to the results?
> >
> > PLEASE TELL US WOT's UP!
> >
> > Bill K6KM
> > also OH2/K6KM and OH0/K6KM
> >
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>From K4BEV at aol.com Fri Jul 19 00:45:05 2002
From: K4BEV@aol.com (K4BEV@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Solar full-halo eruption
Message-ID: <16f.10c19acd.2a68e541@aol.com>
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/07/17/sun.burst/index.html
Superb photo of a full-halo eruption.
May be some comm problems in our near future though.
K4BEV
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>From k2av at contesting.com Fri Jul 19 00:45:40 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
References: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <007501c22ed6$c09c1a10$0500a8c0@swift>
They can be replaced. When that particular chairman is gone, we will
still be here, sending code. Sounds like he doesn't have enough work
to do.
It's kinda like them telling an old car collector to get his '60
Thunderbird off the road.
PSK31 is growing leaps and bounds, all by itself, no help needed from
the FCC, and CW will remain an art form for a long time.
Voice, anything narrower than SSB around? WHAT new voice mode?
73, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move
> to the new modes
> and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
agrees)
> that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal
environments.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
>
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>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Jul 19 00:06:50 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
In-Reply-To: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207182303030.8752-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
I dunno - it's still a hobby to me. I do it for fun. I've been doing CW
for 35 years because I'm good at it and I think it's fun.
I work with a guy who does Highland games. On some weekends they dress up
in kilts and throw rocks and sticks around. It's a hobby. They do it for
fun. Sure, a mortar can fire a rock farther than he can throw it, but
that isn't as much fun to him.
I'll keep doing CW (and sometimes SSB) and the new digital modes as long
as they continue to be fun to me.
73, Zack W9SZ
On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, David L. Thompson wrote:
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs to move
> to the new modes
> and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL agrees)
> that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal environments.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Fri Jul 19 05:13:26 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
References: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <3D3791E6.670BFBD7@directvinternet.com>
"David L. Thompson" wrote:
The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move
to the new modes and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He
said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in
weak signal environments.
.........
Oh yes, and ARRL also persuaded the FCC to create an absolutely
worthless "new band" on 5+ Mhz. Of course, this is going to mean
literally hundreds of thousands of dollars to the manufacturers. And
no doubt, the ARRL, in all it's wisdom, will pronounce this new band
to be acceptable in contests.
When I flew in the Navy, there was a particular hand signal sometimes
given by a flight leader to their wing man. It is best described a
holding your left hand palm down and horizontal, while making a fist
of your right hand and striking the left hand sharply a couple of
times.
It's meaning is "Get your head out of your ASS!"
73
Ed
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Fri Jul 19 05:18:38 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
<001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
<3D36EA17.1C9C49EC@directvinternet.com>
<000401c22ed1$32833f60$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <3D37931E.76EE60F2@directvinternet.com>
"Peter Grillo, Sr." wrote:
>
> I neglected to mention that all QSO's were in English with perfect use of
> international phonetics. As referee, it was interesting to pick up the
> requests for repeats during this run.>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "K4SB" <hamcat@directvinternet.com>
> > So that may well be a consideration the next time a team is put
> > together. Believe me, he had his buddies at home lined up like ducks
> > in a shooting gallary. No doubt, the discipline of the JAs was also a
> > factor.
In my comment, I now realize that I should have changed the subject.
For some of us, there are other contests besides the WRTC.
73
Ed
>From al_lorona at agilent.com Thu Jul 18 23:26:23 2002
From: al_lorona@agilent.com (al_lorona@agilent.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C1293@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
I know what you mean. I guess it makes little sense to use:
Sails in the age of boats with motors,
Pianos in the age of electronic keyboards,
Cotton in the age of polyester,
Gas stoves in the age of microwave ovens,
Hardy Boys in the age of Harry Potter,
Cash in the age of credit cards,
The local hardware store in the age of Home Depot,
Religion in the age of paganism,
Mozart in the age of Brittney Spears,
Eyeglasses in the age of laser surgery,
Actually going shopping in the age of buying on-line,
and books in the age of computers.
Anything old is bad. Anything new is not only better, but should replace
the old, and nobody should use the old anymore. Cuz it's old. Anyone who
does is just... well... old-fashioned, and is holding back the hobby from
progressing.
I can't believe the chairman made those comments, if he did make those
comments. Isn't it Colin Powell's son, or am I thinking of somebody else?
Dave, where did you get this information?
Al, W6LX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:30 PM
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
>
>
> > The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
> to move
> > to the new modes
> > and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
> agrees)
> > that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal
> environments.
> > Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
> noise
> > threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
> >
> > The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
> applications
> > and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
> >
> > So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
> >
> > 73 Dave K4JRB
>From sm2ekm at telia.com Fri Jul 19 09:26:31 2002
From: sm2ekm@telia.com (Jan Erik Holm)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Various IARU issues
References: <14b.110b03ba.2a689714@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3D37B117.60007@telia.com>
I did learn to ask if the frequency was in use 35 years ago and
just becourse you are in a contest doesn?t make it more difficult.
I always ask 2 - 3 times (usually 3 times) if it?s in use and sometimes
during CQWW when the band is wide open it might take me 5 minutes
to find a frequency I can use since it?s QRL all the time but that?s
part of the battle as far as I see it. If someone then tells me to move
after I?ve made 2 - 3 Q?s I will move but not if someone comes
around after 5 or 10 minutes and claim I took his frequency.
However, even being this carefull (I think I am at least) people
will get angry with me and claim I stole the frequency , you can?t
win all the time. Ofcourse I do make misstakes sometimes, i e if
I get on a frequency let?s say 250 times and follow the above
rutine I might make a misstake a few times, it?s crowded you
are thired and what not so it?s just human.
But bottom line, I don?t understan how people can think it?s
difficult to ask if the frequency is occupied.
Jim SM2EKM
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Georgek5kg@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 7/18/2002 11:04:02 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
>n0ss@earthlink.net writes:
>
>
>>In the heat of a contest, it is sometimes difficult to remember to "QRL"
>>each time you think you've found a clear freq, I must admit.
>>
>
>I program "?" into F6 and "QRL?' into F7. I try to remember to hit F7 every
>time I find a new frequency for starting a run. I also use a Dymo Labelmaker
>to mark all Function keys.
>
>73, Geo...J75KG/K5KG
>
>George I. Wagner, K5KG
>Productivity Resources LLC
>941-312-9450
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>
>
>
>
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>From n3bb at mindspring.com Fri Jul 19 03:18:23 2002
From: n3bb@mindspring.com (Jim George)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <v02120d02b95d76e5e01b@EIM-Mac-1.5tcp>
Interesting question.
First off, the WRTC needs to be in a warm climate. It would be tough for
the station and antenna work to be in inclement weather. Second, the WRTC
must be imbedded in some form of contest, otherwise, the rich enviroment of
QSOs and multipliers available would not exist. In addition, the WRTC is
the championship of contesting, and therefore it needs to be in a
contesting environment, with both modes available. The IARU is not any of
the national contests, or regional. Realistically, that leaves the IARU in
the summer (northern hemisphere)as the only alternative The IARU's 24 hour
length is a good compromise between the full 48 hours and shorter
durations. The 24 hour length is important from the consideration of the
hosts and also the competitors and referees. From an overall perspective,
the IARU is a good environment.
Jim N3BB
>Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
>
>Mark, N5OT
>
>
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>From paul at ei5di.com Fri Jul 19 10:05:23 2002
From: paul@ei5di.com (Paul O'Kane)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
References: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <00a701c22eff$3cf4a780$e5a5fea9@dell>
---- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time
> for amateurs to move to the new modes and leave what he
> considers are obsolete modes.
The new FCC Chairman may not understand how Amateur Radio differs
from all other radio services.
> He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is
> superior to CW in weak signal environments.
This is correct, but it is irrelevant because PSK31, and other
data modes, cannot be decoded by the human ear alone.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals
> are below the noise threshold. Listen to the speaker
> and there is nothing!
Then, whatever it is, it's not amateur radio - pehaps it's amateur
data communications? In my book, if it's not Phone or CW, decoded
by the human ear alone in real-time, then it's not amateur radio.
73,
Paul EI5DI
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 19 11:55:08 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020719095508.00721d28@pop.vnet.net>
K4JRB wrote:
>The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move to the new modes and leave what he considers are obsolete modes.
And exactly what are his credentials? Do you think he has any
idea he knows what he is talking about? I don't.
http://www.fcc.gov/commissioners/powell/mkp_biography.html
Perhaps he would like to demonstrate digital modes are superior by
comparing contest results for existing contests. Here are high-claimed
CQ/RJ WW RTTY scores from last fall's contest:
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/2001-October/029841.html
The highest number of contacts made by any single op was 2461 QSO's
which is not even close to the typical CW or SSB SOAB scores. I even
made more than that myself on 10 meters alone! Isn't it about time
we stop taking these "expert" claims at face value and do a reality
check with the brain God has given us?
>He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW
in weak signal environments.
Then I have a challenge for CQ Magazine Dave. Replace the CQ
160 SSB contest (where SSB has already been proven inferior to CW) with
the CQ 160 PSK31 contest. Let's just see if Chariman Powell and ARRL's
claims are true rather than taking them at face value.
>Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the noise
threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
Sure some of the computer-to-computer modes (PSK31, WSJT, QRSS)
can extract signals below the noise level, but how quickly do you think
they could make contacts? A QRSS contest would be a real blast to hear
at ~0.8 words per hour!
>The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD applications
and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
So what? Most of the human element is being removed from DOD
applications (pilots, operators, etc.) My only question is "What do
you do when the computer or GPS fails?" I suppose whe have also
stopped teaching Commercial Marine captains how to use sextants, but
I wouldn't want to go to sea with one who didn't have one and know how
to use it. Rather than making ourselves totally dependent on technology
(which I am a firm believer in BTW), I would hope we are teaching our
military "what to do when the computer breaks".
>So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
I think it's time we stopped accepting some of the groundless
assertions we are getting from the FCC and ARRL. If we really believe
some digital mode is superior, let's put it to the (con)test, which is
the ultimate test of communicatins under extreme conditions. I have
yet to see any digital mode that would even come close but I would
gladly change my opinion if factually proven otherwise. Opinions from
FCC Chairman Powell just won't do it for me.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 19 12:10:46 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020719101046.0131f554@pop.vnet.net>
EI5DI replied to K4JRB:
**********************************************************************
> He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is
> superior to CW in weak signal environments.
This is correct, but it is irrelevant because PSK31, and other
data modes, cannot be decoded by the human ear alone.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals
> are below the noise threshold. Listen to the speaker
> and there is nothing!
Then, whatever it is, it's not amateur radio - pehaps it's amateur
data communications? In my book, if it's not Phone or CW, decoded
by the human ear alone in real-time, then it's not amateur radio.
**********************************************************************
I couldn't agree more Paul! When we can make a WSJT "QSO"
and submit our "QSL" for DXCC without ever actually having heard a
signal or done anything but look at our comuter screen, what is the
point? Is this amateur radio? I think it's something very close to
the Internet but I thought we already had that. Where is the human
element of hearing a signal with our own ears? It might be the future
but count me out because it frankly holds no interest for me.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 19 09:22:31 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
In-Reply-To: <007501c22ed6$c09c1a10$0500a8c0@swift>
References: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020719081036.02465b50@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 11:45 PM 7/18/02 -0400, Guy Olinger, K2AV wrote:
>They can be replaced. When that particular chairman is gone, we will
>still be here, sending code. Sounds like he doesn't have enough work
>to do.
>
>It's kinda like them telling an old car collector to get his '60
>Thunderbird off the road.
>
>PSK31 is growing leaps and bounds, all by itself, no help needed from
>the FCC, and CW will remain an art form for a long time.
>
>Voice, anything narrower than SSB around? WHAT new voice mode?
The only trouble is that there are only 5 Commissioners, who could decide
to change a lot of things we find important (like abolishing CW
subbands). If this proves to be a true report, then we also have to assume
that the people responsible for advising them on ham matters fed them this
misinformation, and there could be more on the way.
If (again) it's true, I suggest that hams write to the Chairman (copying
the other commissioners), in a calm and respectful manner, pointing out the
continued utility of CW for hams, its spectrum-conserving properties, and
urge him to continue to support this mode. Myself, I would point out the
international good-will aspect of amateur radio's statutory purpose, and
ask whether it makes sense for the FCC to move in directions that would
tend to lessen access of amateurs in lesser-developed countries.
The bottom line, to me, is that it doesn't have to be either-or -- CW can
remain, just like sailboats in an age of jet aircraft...
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From k9iua at yahoo.com Fri Jul 19 07:32:17 2002
From: k9iua@yahoo.com (Kevin Anderson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?)
Message-ID: <20020719133217.46920.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com>
I know I am one confused operator.
I personally found the IARU and WRTC being on
the same weekend to be very confusing. At times
they were talked about in the same breath, and
other times they are talked about separately.
In the end I feel like I never really understood
what went on this last weekend, particularly in
understanding exactly what WRTC was and how these
particular operators come to be associated.
I still am largely a new contest operator, at
least when compared to the experience level that
most of you have acquired. I suspect that there
are many other relatively new contestors who are
confused by the dual (or is that combined?) IARU
and WRTC contests on the same weekend. The
sponsors of both could do much more to help
clarify what is going on.
Cheers/73,
Kevin, K9IUA
=====
-------------------------------------
Kevin Anderson, Dubuque IA USA, K9IUA
k9iua (at) yahoo (dot) com
-------------------------------------
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>From Timothy.Urban at wc.ey.com Fri Jul 19 10:34:43 2002
From: Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com (Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <OF3AAA7286.370F36D6-ON85256BFB.004A2F4C@ey.com>
As a former military hf cw operator, I don't believe the statement about
the DoD is factually true. My connections back at Ft Bragg, home of the
US Army special warfare commo school tell me that cw is still a mandatory
part of the JFK Special Warfare Course.
Don't know anything about commercial marine communication.
73
Tim
N5IIT
cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
07/18/2002 06:30 PM
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
cc:
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs to
move
to the new modes
and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
agrees)
that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal environments.
Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the noise
threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
73 Dave K4JRB
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 19 14:55:15 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Correction: CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020719125515.00728fdc@pop.vnet.net>
I wrote:
>The highest number of contacts made by any single op was 2461 QSO's
which is not even close to the typical CW or SSB SOAB scores.
My apologies to K3MM at P40MM who made 2972 QSO's in the low
power category which will be the new SOABHP World record, but my point
still stands.
73, Bill W4ZV
P.S. I also wrote:
>A QRSS contest would be a real blast to hear at ~0.8 words per hour!
That's 0.0133 WPM CW! ;-)
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Fri Jul 19 10:59:53 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
Message-ID: <120.13682f4a.2a697559@aol.com>
W1AW/5:
Great job guys. It was fun chasing you around the bands...or being chased!
73, George J75KG/K5KG and Fred, J79MM/NA2U
George I. Wagner, K5KG
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 19 08:00:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 19Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207191400.g6JE0Zt15777@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 19Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
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Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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All M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 8927 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW LP
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
RN4LP 1505 4683 251 24 1,175,433
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 14 463,606 HSDXA
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 k 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
K1HT 399 123 139 8 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
FM5GU 0 1492 99 9 609,246
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From n2mg at eham.net Fri Jul 19 12:04:44 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <200207191404.g6JE4i5r009456@contesting.com>
> (FCC Chairman Powell said) Amateurs are working each other with QRP
> where signals are below the noise threshold. Listen to the speaker
> and there is nothing!
Perhaps that's just what the FCC wants - all hams running 100mW with
crappy antennas chatting with their keyboards. No PRB-1, no CC&R
issues, no RFI, no exposure concerns...
Gee, sounds like the Internet, only, um worse!
Mike N2MG
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 19 11:52:16 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
References: <200207191333.g6JDX05r008807@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <00f801c22f33$e4629a20$03010a0a@office1>
I don't know guys, but something of this smells like a red herring that's
been left in the back seat of someone's car for a few days with the windows
up and the temperatures averaging the upper 90's (Farenheit, that is)
I just did a search through some of the news archives. I wanted to see
exactly what Chairman Powell was quoted as saying and in what context.
Guess what? If this happened recently (and I checked as far back as March),
no one seems to have reported it as a news item anywhere.
And isn't it curious that the original post states that this is a quote from
the "new FCC Chairman"? He's been FCC Chairman for quite some time now,
over a year I believe -- hardly new. And he's not mentioned by name.
Neither is the group of amateurs.
So before we jump off the handle and run around screaming at how unfair this
all is, or how it's inevitable, or how this is another ARRL plot to sell
more radios for the manufacturer's by giving us a worthless 5 MHz
allocation, or something else equally or moreso ridiculous, let's find out a
few things:
(a) Exactly who said this?
(b) Exactly when was it said?
(c) Exactly what was said?
(d) Exactly who was it said to?
If we don't know that, not only is this all wild speculation, but it has the
legitimacy of an anonymous email telling you to delete a file off your hard
drive calle AOL.EXE because it's an obvious virus that will destroy your
brain cells. Or something like that.
73, ron wn3vaw
"And they give you cash,
which is just as good as money!"
Yogi Berra, AFLAC Commercial, 2002
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Olinger, K2AV" <k2av@contesting.com>
To: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>,
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
They can be replaced. When that particular chairman is gone, we will
still be here, sending code. Sounds like he doesn't have enough work
to do.
It's kinda like them telling an old car collector to get his '60
Thunderbird off the road.
PSK31 is growing leaps and bounds, all by itself, no help needed from
the FCC, and CW will remain an art form for a long time.
Voice, anything narrower than SSB around? WHAT new voice mode?
73, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move
> to the new modes
> and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
agrees)
> that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal
environments.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
>
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>From wiess at zt.bialap.tpsa.pl Fri Jul 19 17:54:51 2002
From: wiess@zt.bialap.tpsa.pl (Wieslaw SP8SW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Thanks for fun - wrtc2002 fan
Message-ID: <000b01c22f34$3d3789d0$2da3ccc2@LBZ1NZTWS02>
Just ended event I waited last two years beeing fan of my participating in
it friends...
Many thanks to all who contribute to it; it was realy wonderfull HAM
festival in all world...
My illness did not get me chance participate in IARU HF and support them as
much as I hoped...
And now, when I am back at home, I gone to analyse photos and results - just
to experience this great time once again...
And found somethitng what I do not understand - with end classification of
teams...
On results page is linked to Excell file with scores :
http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/scores.xls
In that sheet - why some teams have qso points scored as arithmetic rule and
other not ?!
Seems, for most teams "QSO total" was counted "in mind", and not as Excell
rule ! There seems to be difference 10...104 QSO points - browsing sheet you
may see where is "QSOs total" counted, and where filled manualy..
Why ?
Sorry for this question and for my poor english. I hope it is simple
explanation that I, and many of hams - need know asap (no matter teams
positions..).
My best regards from east Poland
73 de Wies SP8SW (ex SP8NTW)
>From W4EF at dellroy.com Fri Jul 19 08:58:36 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Michael Tope)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
References: <1.5.4.32.20020719095508.00721d28@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <110701c22f34$c2aae620$6501a8c0@1800XP>
This all reminds me of the claims made about Fractal antennas.
Lots of articles were written about how "superior" fractal
antennas were compared with traditional methods of loading.
Oddly enough however, the only article I have ever seen that
made actual apples to apples comparisons between Fractal
and non-fractal loading methods actually showed that Fractals
elements were either the same or in some cases worse than
the non self-similar elements. Same thing goes with PSK31.
People listen to their audio outputs in a 3KHz
bandwidth and then are amazed when the soundcard can decode
signals they can't hear - well duh! A PSK31 signal is about 50
Hz wide, and so is the matched filter in the sound card - thats
about 17dB of additional SNR - no magic. Also, try cranking
up your Alpha to 1.5 KW output while running
PSK31. That is why everyone runs 5 watts, because that's how
far you'll need to back off your MIC gain before people stop
complaining about your IMD levels.
Somebody needs to run actuals link tests on a calibrated test bed
in various noise environments (impulse, gaussian, lightning static)
comparing CW and PSK31 before these assertions can be
verified. Maybe PSK31 does have some advantage, but I have
yet to see anything but anecdotal claims. Sounds like a good
paper for QEX magazine.
73 de Mike, W4EF.............................
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tippett" <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 2:55 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
> K4JRB wrote:
> >The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
> to move to the new modes and leave what he considers are obsolete modes.
>
> And exactly what are his credentials? Do you think he has any
> idea he knows what he is talking about? I don't.
>
> http://www.fcc.gov/commissioners/powell/mkp_biography.html
>
> Perhaps he would like to demonstrate digital modes are superior by
> comparing contest results for existing contests. Here are high-claimed
> CQ/RJ WW RTTY scores from last fall's contest:
>
> http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/2001-October/029841.html
>
> The highest number of contacts made by any single op was 2461 QSO's
> which is not even close to the typical CW or SSB SOAB scores. I even
> made more than that myself on 10 meters alone! Isn't it about time
> we stop taking these "expert" claims at face value and do a reality
> check with the brain God has given us?
>
> >He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW
> in weak signal environments.
>
> Then I have a challenge for CQ Magazine Dave. Replace the CQ
> 160 SSB contest (where SSB has already been proven inferior to CW) with
> the CQ 160 PSK31 contest. Let's just see if Chariman Powell and ARRL's
> claims are true rather than taking them at face value.
>
> >Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> Sure some of the computer-to-computer modes (PSK31, WSJT, QRSS)
> can extract signals below the noise level, but how quickly do you think
> they could make contacts? A QRSS contest would be a real blast to hear
> at ~0.8 words per hour!
>
> >The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So what? Most of the human element is being removed from DOD
> applications (pilots, operators, etc.) My only question is "What do
> you do when the computer or GPS fails?" I suppose whe have also
> stopped teaching Commercial Marine captains how to use sextants, but
> I wouldn't want to go to sea with one who didn't have one and know how
> to use it. Rather than making ourselves totally dependent on technology
> (which I am a firm believer in BTW), I would hope we are teaching our
> military "what to do when the computer breaks".
>
> >So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> I think it's time we stopped accepting some of the groundless
> assertions we are getting from the FCC and ARRL. If we really believe
> some digital mode is superior, let's put it to the (con)test, which is
> the ultimate test of communicatins under extreme conditions. I have
> yet to see any digital mode that would even come close but I would
> gladly change my opinion if factually proven otherwise. Opinions from
> FCC Chairman Powell just won't do it for me.
>
> 73, Bill W4ZV
>
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 19 09:14:39 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Claimed Scores Summary Reminder
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020719080218.00a41c88@pop3.eskimo.com>
Just a reminder because I am getting a lot of questions
as to why certain scores are not in the claimed score summary
even though they have been posted to 3830.
To get your score on the claimed scores please
go to: http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
It even says to do this at the top of each summary :>)
If you cannot go to or use this Web site, let me know and
I will input the data into the form for you. However, I
just cannot afford the time anymore to manually enter all
the data from individual "free style" summaries. Thanks
to Bruce, WA7BNM, the technology is here for a better
way to provide standardized score postings and you can
put just about anything you want in the comment section
(including your "free style" summary).
73 dink, n7wa
p.s. Thanks Bruce - for giving me time for my hobby again :>)
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Fri Jul 19 12:22:57 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719020602.02530b00@pop.texas.net>
Message-ID: <00e201c22f38$299ca140$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Congratulations on a great job representing the USA, Rich.
The Florida Contest Group had a blast two years ago as W1AW/4- you have
taken it to the next level for team USA by interconnecting multiple sites -
hats off to you and W5XD - great achievement - cannot imagine all the
screens in sync at the end of the contest from 6 different sites - WOW!
Talk about knowing who to pass and where to pass them!!!!!
...this was not do-able two years ago but now is history - very very cool -
this is the current level - what will be next? The HQ Radiosport station
offers an opportunity to do this kind of thing (multiple sites) that no
other contest can - and as contesters we all love using technology to stuff
our envelopes to the point of breaking, hi! I know that the logistics of
two years ago were tough - sure would have been nice to gab to "anyone
anywhere" on the network!
Go Team USA!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
& THE Florida Contest Group
FCG #1 WRTC02 - N5TJ + K1TO
FCG #4 WRTC02 - N6MJ + N2NL
...from Sunny Florida where we are awaiting the return from WRTC in Europe
of our President, Dan, K1TO (co- #1) and VP Jeff, WC4E (a referee)
Should the opportunity to operate one of these affairs ever become available
again I would jump at the chance - it was as they say "a hoot" - being a
unique multiplier by just jumping in your car to go to the local MM
station....neat.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard L. King <k5na@texas.net>
To: <3830@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; <ctdxcc@kkn.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:42 PM
Subject: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
> 2002 IARU Contest
>
> W1AW/5 ARRL Headquarters Station
>
> Location - Central Texas (Austin, Texas area)
>
> CW Phone
> Total
> Band QSOs Points QSOs Points QSOs
> Points Mults
>
> 160 177 375 156 296 333
> 671 11
> 80 329 771 444 1048 773
> 1819 27
> 40 824 2545 760 1778 1584
> 4323 55
> 20 1594 5966 2319 7522 3913
> 13488 87
> 15 1274 4766 1585 5339 2859
> 10105 92
> 10 402 1098 467 1277 869
> 2375 39
>
> Total 4600 15521 5731 17260 10331
> 32781 311
>
> Claimed Score: 32,781 x 311 = 10,194,891
>
> This past year has been a busy one here in Central Texas while we prepared
> for W1AW/5. Though we were given the W1AW/5 assignment over 3 years ago,
> the planning got started in seriousness a year ago immediately after the
> 2001 IARU.
>
> Six of the premier Central Texas stations agreed to participate - K5NA,
> K5TR, N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT. Each of these stations could have been
a
> powerhouse on any of the bands or modes but the assignments were:
>
> K5NA - 80M CW, 40M CW, & 15M SSB.
> K5TR - 80M SSB & 20M SSB
> N5CQ - 10M CW
> N5TW - 160M CW & 20M CW.
> NX5M - 160M SSB & 10M SSB.
> W5KFT - 40M SSB & 15M SSB
>
> W5XD wrote a special version of WriteLog for use by the headquarters
> stations. Basically the new version allowed us to connect to a central
> Internet server that fed QSOs back to all the W1AW/5 sites in real-time.
> Each site could always tell what QSOs and mults each of the other
band/mode
> sites needed. The software also fed the frequencies of the radios back to
> everyone to allow each station to move QSOs to other bands easily.
>
> We had a total of about 15 computers set up at all the sites and each
ended
> up with the same QSO and multiplier numbers at the end of the contest. The
> software was really awesome.
>
> The 24 hours of the IARU were noisy because Central Texas was being hit
> with wave after wave of thunderstorms. This condition caused high QRM on
> all the bands and especially affected the low bands. The thunderstorms had
> been occurring for several days before the contest and there was a lot of
> flooding in the area. But no W1AW/5 sites were affected by flooding. The
> rain static and thunderstorms were another matter.
>
> The thunderstorms forced the N5TW, NX5M, & W5KFT sites to shut down at
> different times during the contest as thunder cells passed by. Since the
> logging system was real-time and current at all the sites, it was possible
> for other sites to start working the vacated band/modes almost immediately
> after the affected stations were shut down. A lot of cell phone calls were
> made to coordinate this. Later the band/modes were switched back to the
> original stations.
>
> Our goal was to beat the old W1AW/p record set by W1AW/4 in 2000. However,
> 10 meters just didn't have much in the way of good conditions here and we
> fell a little short. With sun spots going down, the W1AW/4 record may
stand
> for a few years. Our secondary goal was to beat NU1AW and the other
> headquarters stations. But I haven't heard any other official HQ scores
yet.
>
> All the stations owners and operators had a great time doing this. It was
> great fun.
>
> Thanks to the K1ZZ and the ARRL for allowing us to do W1AW/5 in this
> contest. Also thanks to W5XD for his work developing his terrific software
> to support our effort and to AB5K for the special telnet node used
> exclusively by all the W1AW/5 stations.
>
> There will be more detailed information and breakdowns of the W1AW/5
effort
> available on the net very soon.
>
> 73, Richard - K5NA
>
> k5na@texas.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> 3830 mailing list
> 3830@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/3830
>From dennis.mcalpine at verizon.net Fri Jul 19 12:26:05 2002
From: dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net (Dennis McAlpine)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719020602.02530b00@pop.texas.net>
<00e201c22f38$299ca140$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <00aa01c22f38$99c517e0$ad3dca97@oemcomputer>
Yes, Jim, this year's ARRL HQ stations moved things up a bit but look at
some of the Europeans and their geographic diversification. Following their
example, why shouldn't we have stations spread out all over the country,
e.g. K1EA, N2RM, W3LPL, W4MYA, etc. In fact, given the geographic range,
why not have multiple statins on the same band, e.g. a W6 on 80 at the same
time as a W2. OK, so you can't have multiple statios on the same band. How
about a half hour from the East, then a half hour from midwest, then a half
hour from west coast and keep repeating the process. Tht would allow us to
use 36 different stations (6 bands X 2 modes x 3 stations per mode).
Imagine merging those logs.
73,
Dennis K2SX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim White, K4OJ" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <3830@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; <ctdxcc@kkn.net>;
"Richard L. King" <k5na@texas.net>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
> Congratulations on a great job representing the USA, Rich.
>
> The Florida Contest Group had a blast two years ago as W1AW/4- you have
> taken it to the next level for team USA by interconnecting multiple
sites -
> hats off to you and W5XD - great achievement - cannot imagine all the
> screens in sync at the end of the contest from 6 different sites - WOW!
> Talk about knowing who to pass and where to pass them!!!!!
>
> ...this was not do-able two years ago but now is history - very very
cool -
> this is the current level - what will be next? The HQ Radiosport station
> offers an opportunity to do this kind of thing (multiple sites) that no
> other contest can - and as contesters we all love using technology to
stuff
> our envelopes to the point of breaking, hi! I know that the logistics of
> two years ago were tough - sure would have been nice to gab to "anyone
> anywhere" on the network!
>
> Go Team USA!
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, K4OJ
>
> & THE Florida Contest Group
>
> FCG #1 WRTC02 - N5TJ + K1TO
> FCG #4 WRTC02 - N6MJ + N2NL
>
>
> ...from Sunny Florida where we are awaiting the return from WRTC in Europe
> of our President, Dan, K1TO (co- #1) and VP Jeff, WC4E (a referee)
>
>
> Should the opportunity to operate one of these affairs ever become
available
> again I would jump at the chance - it was as they say "a hoot" - being a
> unique multiplier by just jumping in your car to go to the local MM
> station....neat.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard L. King <k5na@texas.net>
> To: <3830@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; <ctdxcc@kkn.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:42 PM
> Subject: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
>
>
> > 2002 IARU Contest
> >
> > W1AW/5 ARRL Headquarters Station
> >
> > Location - Central Texas (Austin, Texas area)
> >
> > CW Phone
> > Total
> > Band QSOs Points QSOs Points QSOs
> > Points Mults
> >
> > 160 177 375 156 296 333
> > 671 11
> > 80 329 771 444 1048 773
> > 1819 27
> > 40 824 2545 760 1778 1584
> > 4323 55
> > 20 1594 5966 2319 7522 3913
> > 13488 87
> > 15 1274 4766 1585 5339 2859
> > 10105 92
> > 10 402 1098 467 1277 869
> > 2375 39
> >
> > Total 4600 15521 5731 17260 10331
> > 32781 311
> >
> > Claimed Score: 32,781 x 311 = 10,194,891
> >
> > This past year has been a busy one here in Central Texas while we
prepared
> > for W1AW/5. Though we were given the W1AW/5 assignment over 3 years ago,
> > the planning got started in seriousness a year ago immediately after the
> > 2001 IARU.
> >
> > Six of the premier Central Texas stations agreed to participate - K5NA,
> > K5TR, N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT. Each of these stations could have
been
> a
> > powerhouse on any of the bands or modes but the assignments were:
> >
> > K5NA - 80M CW, 40M CW, & 15M SSB.
> > K5TR - 80M SSB & 20M SSB
> > N5CQ - 10M CW
> > N5TW - 160M CW & 20M CW.
> > NX5M - 160M SSB & 10M SSB.
> > W5KFT - 40M SSB & 15M SSB
> >
> > W5XD wrote a special version of WriteLog for use by the headquarters
> > stations. Basically the new version allowed us to connect to a central
> > Internet server that fed QSOs back to all the W1AW/5 sites in real-time.
> > Each site could always tell what QSOs and mults each of the other
> band/mode
> > sites needed. The software also fed the frequencies of the radios back
to
> > everyone to allow each station to move QSOs to other bands easily.
> >
> > We had a total of about 15 computers set up at all the sites and each
> ended
> > up with the same QSO and multiplier numbers at the end of the contest.
The
> > software was really awesome.
> >
> > The 24 hours of the IARU were noisy because Central Texas was being hit
> > with wave after wave of thunderstorms. This condition caused high QRM on
> > all the bands and especially affected the low bands. The thunderstorms
had
> > been occurring for several days before the contest and there was a lot
of
> > flooding in the area. But no W1AW/5 sites were affected by flooding. The
> > rain static and thunderstorms were another matter.
> >
> > The thunderstorms forced the N5TW, NX5M, & W5KFT sites to shut down at
> > different times during the contest as thunder cells passed by. Since the
> > logging system was real-time and current at all the sites, it was
possible
> > for other sites to start working the vacated band/modes almost
immediately
> > after the affected stations were shut down. A lot of cell phone calls
were
> > made to coordinate this. Later the band/modes were switched back to the
> > original stations.
> >
> > Our goal was to beat the old W1AW/p record set by W1AW/4 in 2000.
However,
> > 10 meters just didn't have much in the way of good conditions here and
we
> > fell a little short. With sun spots going down, the W1AW/4 record may
> stand
> > for a few years. Our secondary goal was to beat NU1AW and the other
> > headquarters stations. But I haven't heard any other official HQ scores
> yet.
> >
> > All the stations owners and operators had a great time doing this. It
was
> > great fun.
> >
> > Thanks to the K1ZZ and the ARRL for allowing us to do W1AW/5 in this
> > contest. Also thanks to W5XD for his work developing his terrific
software
> > to support our effort and to AB5K for the special telnet node used
> > exclusively by all the W1AW/5 stations.
> >
> > There will be more detailed information and breakdowns of the W1AW/5
> effort
> > available on the net very soon.
> >
> > 73, Richard - K5NA
> >
> > k5na@texas.net
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > 3830 mailing list
> > 3830@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/3830
>
> _______________________________________________
> 3830 mailing list
> 3830@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/3830
>From felipe at isla.net Fri Jul 19 12:59:05 2002
From: felipe@isla.net (Felipe J. Hernandez)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <v02120d02b95d76e5e01b@EIM-Mac-1.5tcp>
Message-ID: <000601c22f3d$35669120$4800640a@isla.net>
Just imagine all the money to be spent in marketing to draw the same
amount of participation as a contest like the IARU.
I personally think that the conbination couldn't be better, obviously
under
Low solar activity the site chosen has to be in a location with
propagation advantages.
Maybe Puerto rico Who knows...
Felipe
NP4Z
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim George
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 4:18 AM
To: Mark Beckwith
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Interesting question.
First off, the WRTC needs to be in a warm climate. It would be tough
for
the station and antenna work to be in inclement weather. Second, the
WRTC
must be imbedded in some form of contest, otherwise, the rich enviroment
of
QSOs and multipliers available would not exist. In addition, the WRTC
is
the championship of contesting, and therefore it needs to be in a
contesting environment, with both modes available. The IARU is not any
of
the national contests, or regional. Realistically, that leaves the IARU
in
the summer (northern hemisphere)as the only alternative The IARU's 24
hour
length is a good compromise between the full 48 hours and shorter
durations. The 24 hour length is important from the consideration of
the
hosts and also the competitors and referees. From an overall
perspective,
the IARU is a good environment.
Jim N3BB
>Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
>
>Mark, N5OT
>
>
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>From dhenderson at arrl.org Fri Jul 19 14:26:00 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A couple of reminders about IARU Scores
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC044F918E@kahless.arrlhq.org>
A couple of items...
I. Many contesters sent the WRTC 2002 Committee their logs immediately
after the contest to assist in their adjudication of their event. Many of
those logs sent directly to WRTC were sent before the submitter did their
own "sanity check" on the entry. I have been asked by several stations that
sent their logs to the WRTC for their "early bird" logs to assist in score
of that event if I have received their log from the WRTC 2002 organizing
committee.
The administration of the IARU HF Contest is completely separate from the
WRTC 2002 officials. The WRTC Committee used the early submitted logs to
assist them with their adjudication of their event. They did not screen
logs for any of the information that is needed by the ARRL in order to
accurately report and adjudicate the IARU HF Contest. Receiving logs
directly from WRTC 2002 could leave the ARRL with logs that contained
problems, making them difficult or impossible to use for the official
contest results.
You must send in your IARU HF World Championship to either iaruhf@arrl.org
or iaruhf@iaru.org in order for your results to be included in the official
contest results.
The ARRL Contest Branch will not be receiving the "early bird" logs from
WRTC.
II. Several stations have questioned why the ARRL-SECTION: field is required
in the Cabrillo log header.
The ARRL administers the contest at no cost to the IARU or the other member
societies. The ARRL-SECTION: Field in the header allows us to do several
things which help result in a more accurate reporting of the results. The
ARRL issues awards to stations in the ARRL/RAC Field Organization based on
their official section. So for W/VE stations, we have to have the ARRL
section information in order to determine awards. The use of the term "DX"
in that field for DX stations allows us to sort non-W/VE logs into a
separate queue for processing, reporting, and for determining awards for
non-ARRL or RAC member society stations.
Thanks for your help.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Fri Jul 19 18:51:25 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
References: <200207191333.g6JDX05r008807@contesting.com>
<00f801c22f33$e4629a20$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <3D38519D.B9EAC57C@directvinternet.com>
Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
> I just did a search through some of the news archives. I wanted to see
> exactly what Chairman Powell was quoted as saying and in what context.
> Guess what? If this happened recently (and I checked as far back as March),
> no one seems to have reported it as a news item anywhere.
Well, I saw and read the entire comment also. It was a quote from
Chairman Powell. It very well be it was included in the ARRL letter
sent out every friday to those who subscribe.
Those who have mentioned this are very accurate in their reporting,
and it happened.
Why don't you query the ARRL about it if you are so unable to accept
the word of many
well known and respected hams?
And by the way, I would be very careful in quoting in the signature
file what is undoubably a highly guarded and copywrited commercial.
73
Ed
>From ad1c at yahoo.com Fri Jul 19 14:00:21 2002
From: ad1c@yahoo.com (Jim Reisert)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARLB044 The ARRL Board of Directors convenes July 19-21
in Windsor, Connecticut
Message-ID: <20020719200021.48868.qmail@web13603.mail.yahoo.com>
ZCZC AG44
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 44 ARLB044
>From kc1f at adelphia.net Fri Jul 19 21:04:31 2002
From: kc1f@adelphia.net (Stuart Santelmann)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UA1 antennas
Message-ID: <003101c22f57$319984c0$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Hello:
I just got back from WRTC as a referee, and 18 of us continued on to the
post-contest excursion to St. Petersburg in Russia. Some of us spotted some
BIG HF antennas on the roof of a several story building near the "Kissing
Bridge" (it's a long story), and I guess it's also near, or on top of the
Cadet School of something. We saw five or six element monobanders, plus
some other stuff. Anyone know what station this is ? Could it be RU1A ?
Although our tour guide knew everything about the art in the museums, she
didn't know from antennas, hi...
Thanks in advance... Stu KC1F
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 19 17:49:51 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Alleged Powell Statements
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020719164702.04fc36e0@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
For what it's worth, I have just searched the ARRL web site for any
reference to FCC Chairman Powell's comments on CW, without success. It
looks as if all the comments on the reflector are based on an original
message by Dave, K4JRB. Dave, can you pinpoint your source for us?
73, Pete N4ZR
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 19 22:48:39 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] August CQ Magazine Online (sort of)
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020719204839.0073cbe8@pop.vnet.net>
I was searching CQ Magazine's site for an e-mail address
to check my subscription expiration and was quite surprised to
see several new features on the Website for the August issue which
includes the CQ WW SSB results:
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/August%202002%20Highlights.html
"Next, we've got the contest results themselves, with expanded results
here on the CQ website. These include: Expanded "QRM" (operator
comments); Station Operators at Multi-op Stations; Top Scores in Very
Active Zones; Zone Leaders (Single Op); and expanded Team
Contesting results."
Only the 'Expanded QRM' and 'Station Operators at Multi-op Stations'
hyperlinks are active at the moment but I assume the others will be
put online soon. I guess ARRL's expanded online reports have
stimulated CQ to do the same! Thanks CQ!
73, Bill W4ZV
P.S. Now I wonder when the CQ WW Contest Records will be updated?
Some of those records are now 2 years old:
http://www.cqww.com/intro.htm
>From n5nw at n5nw.org Fri Jul 19 18:39:43 2002
From: n5nw@n5nw.org (Marty N5NW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?)
References: <20020719133217.46920.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006a01c22f6e$0fd6ab30$3339a8c0@dayton.hospiceofdayton.org>
Don't be confused ... WRTC is an invitation-only event. Only 42 (41?)
stations participated.
IARU is a world wide "open" event.
We only participate in WRTC as contacts. Our log submissions were, for our
purposes, only checklogs.
The only awards I am aware of were prizes (somewhat random) for submitting a
checklog.
IARU will have rankings of all participants.
Hope this helps ...
de N5NW/8 (Marty)
Bellbrook, Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Anderson" <k9iua@yahoo.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 9:32 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?)
> I know I am one confused operator.
> I personally found the IARU and WRTC being on
> the same weekend to be very confusing. At times
> they were talked about in the same breath, and
> other times they are talked about separately.
> In the end I feel like I never really understood
> what went on this last weekend, particularly in
> understanding exactly what WRTC was and how these
> particular operators come to be associated.
>
> I still am largely a new contest operator, at
> least when compared to the experience level that
> most of you have acquired. I suspect that there
> are many other relatively new contestors who are
> confused by the dual (or is that combined?) IARU
> and WRTC contests on the same weekend. The
> sponsors of both could do much more to help
> clarify what is going on.
>
> Cheers/73,
> Kevin, K9IUA
>
>
> =====
> -------------------------------------
> Kevin Anderson, Dubuque IA USA, K9IUA
> k9iua (at) yahoo (dot) com
> -------------------------------------
>
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 19 18:55:27 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
Message-ID: <01aa01c22f6f$19eaf8a0$03010a0a@office1>
I was just informed of the recent response to my earlier post. Good thing I
went on-line to see it (I normally only get the digest), although the nature
of that reply is sad.
Since a personal, ah, response like that does not belong on the list but
should be handled direct, let me reply generically since there is some
mis-interpretation of my motive here:
I'm not saying that the quote is neccesarily wrong or inaccurate. Yeah, it
looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, but that doesn't neccesarily mean
it's a duck (it could be a silly rabbit in disguise). For that reason, and
considering the responses on it to date, I went looking for it -- and
couldn't find it.
Could I have missed it? Sure. That's one of the reasons I asked. But the
thing is, if you look at the news items on the ARRL Web Site, you'll notice
that most or all of the news items there end up in the weekly ARRL Letter in
some form or another. And you'd think something like this would qualify as
a news item, wouldn't it?
I've also noticed only the original post from K4JRB actually quotes from
this alleged meeting. Everyone else is replying to it. This is NOT, again,
to say that Dave is wrong -- far from it. But just because a lot of replies
included the original post is hardly the same thing as a bunch of us saying
"yeah, I read that too!"
My point originally was simply to FIND the original comments that Dave was
quoting from IN CONTEXT. Then evaluate the information and make up my own
mind. Otherwise we're dealing with information that is no more reliable
than another internet or urban myth.
So am I now to understand that if I don't agree with the vocal minority I'm
presumed to be against them? That's sad.
The key four questions were never answered: Who said it, who heard it, what
exactly was said, and when. Instead, I got slammed for raising them. That
alone says quite a lot, but let it rest. Suffice to say that if the biggest
argument that was made was criticizing my signature line... really.
Although this suddenly makes another one more relevant for the moment.
Does anyone know the facts, or are we just reacting to a tall tale?
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
I don't know guys, but something of this smells like a red herring that's
been left in the back seat of someone's car for a few days with the windows
up and the temperatures averaging the upper 90's (Farenheit, that is)
I just did a search through some of the news archives. I wanted to see
exactly what Chairman Powell was quoted as saying and in what context.
Guess what? If this happened recently (and I checked as far back as March),
no one seems to have reported it as a news item anywhere.
And isn't it curious that the original post states that this is a quote from
the "new FCC Chairman"? He's been FCC Chairman for quite some time now,
over a year I believe -- hardly new. And he's not mentioned by name.
Neither is the group of amateurs.
So before we jump off the handle and run around screaming at how unfair this
all is, or how it's inevitable, or how this is another ARRL plot to sell
more radios for the manufacturer's by giving us a worthless 5 MHz
allocation, or something else equally or moreso ridiculous, let's find out a
few things:
(a) Exactly who said this?
(b) Exactly when was it said?
(c) Exactly what was said?
(d) Exactly who was it said to?
If we don't know that, not only is this all wild speculation, but it has the
legitimacy of an anonymous email telling you to delete a file off your hard
drive calle AOL.EXE because it's an obvious virus that will destroy your
brain cells. Or something like that.
73, ron wn3vaw
"And they give you cash,
which is just as good as money!"
Yogi Berra, AFLAC Commercial, 2002
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Olinger, K2AV" <k2av@contesting.com>
To: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>,
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
They can be replaced. When that particular chairman is gone, we will
still be here, sending code. Sounds like he doesn't have enough work
to do.
It's kinda like them telling an old car collector to get his '60
Thunderbird off the road.
PSK31 is growing leaps and bounds, all by itself, no help needed from
the FCC, and CW will remain an art form for a long time.
Voice, anything narrower than SSB around? WHAT new voice mode?
73, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move
> to the new modes
> and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
agrees)
> that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal
environments.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
>
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 19 19:07:28 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] August CQ Magazine Online (sort of)
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020719204839.0073cbe8@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020719180621.02456c80@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 09:48 PM 7/19/02 +0100, Bill Tippett wrote:
>I guess ARRL's expanded online reports have
>stimulated CQ to do the same! Thanks CQ!
But note that CQ is apparently reserving the line scores for the magazine,
while after this week's ARRL board meeting I think we can assume that line
scores in QST will be history.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From N5RP at pdq.net Fri Jul 19 23:37:33 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UA1 antennas
In-Reply-To: <003101c22f57$319984c0$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020719223701.009f80f0@pop.pdq.net>
At 20:04 7/19/02 +0100, Stuart Santelmann wrote:
>Hello:
>
> I just got back from WRTC as a referee, and 18 of us continued on to the
>post-contest excursion to St. Petersburg in Russia. Some of us spotted some
>BIG HF antennas on the roof of a several story building near the "Kissing
>Bridge" (it's a long story), and I guess it's also near, or on top of the
>Cadet School of something. We saw five or six element monobanders, plus
>some other stuff. Anyone know what station this is ?
===============>
Belongs to a Finnish businessman, as I remember.
Call, I do not know.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From john-k1rc at juno.com Fri Jul 19 22:53:17 2002
From: john-k1rc@juno.com (john-k1rc@juno.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
Message-ID: <20020719.215423.-312161.1.john-k1rc@juno.com>
On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:52:16 -0400 "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
writes:
> I don't know guys, but something of this smells like a red herring
> that's been left in the back seat of someone's car for a few days with
the
> windows up and the temperatures averaging the upper 90's (Farenheit,
that
> is)
> ===/Snip/===
Maybe Ron isn't so far off base. Lets look at it yet another way...
Could it be that someone is just testing the waters to see what
the overall the reaction would be, before (the illusive) "THEY"
try to slip some type of rule making to the commissioners
( maybe under the table, disguised in some other docket)?
Like a politician trying to find out what the people think of him
and his views before he sticks his neck out, running for office
and getting hacked to bits.
(Poor example but couldn't think of any other at the moment)
Maybe if this thread didn't generate as much debate, "THEY"
might think;
"These hams don't really care either way, whether we change
the rules, dump CW and SSB and force everyone to use digital
or other more modern modes.
So lets do it and "sock it to 'em" then tell them and listen to
them "whine"after its too late to do anything about it."
I could be wrong, but then again I could be right.......
Just my cynical 2 cents..
CU on the old modes, and any others I have capability for,
John K1RC
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>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Fri Jul 19 23:33:52 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WriteLog] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
Message-ID: <197.a00610a.2a6a2610@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/15/2002 6:16:11 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
n2nu@arrl.net writes:
> I worked three maritime mobile stations in the IARU test and logged them as
> xxnxxx/MM (e.g. SP2AVE/MM). In all cases, these were logged as 0 point
> contacts in my version of WriteLog. I cannot find any reference at all to
> MM stations in the rules, and I would think that these should be logged as
> 5 pointers since they were outside the continent and zone... In one case
> the station gave me a new zone multiplier (which the program counts), even
> though it was still logged as 0 points!
>
> Clarification on the rules, anyone?
>
John,
Did you get an answer to your question about /mm stations. We too worked two
/mm stations, and they were scored as 0 points by WL. One was UT1FG/MM in
zone 46 which did count as a zone multiplier.
73, Geo...
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
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941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From n5nw at n5nw.org Sat Jul 20 00:57:33 2002
From: n5nw@n5nw.org (Marty N5NW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?)
In-Reply-To: <NCBBIPEKMKEIENBFHFHJMENDFEAA.mjwetzel@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <NGBBIMJEELMGMFPMHEAGIEIFCBAA.n5nw@n5nw.org>
Sri for the error. 52 teams invited to play in WRTC, not 41 or 42 as
mentioned. Point still stands, though. The WRTC is for those guys -- the
rest of us are contact fodder. The IARU is that weekend's contest for the
rest of us.
de N5NW/8
>From rw4pl at mi.ru Sat Jul 20 05:54:22 2002
From: rw4pl@mi.ru (Andrey RW4PL)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UA1 antennas
Message-ID: <200207200454.g6K4sXF97828@mail.melt.ru>
Hello Stuart.
>From: "Stuart Santelmann" <kc1f@adelphia.net>
> We saw five or six element monobanders, plus
>some other stuff. Anyone know what station this is ? Could it be RU1A ?
>Although our tour guide knew everything about the art in the museums, she
>didn't know from antennas, hi...
> Thanks in advance... Stu KC1F
Please see about russian big gans on the : http://www.contest.ru/
Good luck!
Andrey. mail to rw4pl@mi.ru
rw4pl@mail.ru
>From lz4ax at psu.edu Sat Jul 20 02:33:19 2002
From: lz4ax@psu.edu (Alexander Avramov)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UA 1 antennas
Message-ID: <00bb01c22fae$f55bbc00$15a7cb82@computer>
Yeah ! I'm glad to hear they are still there. I was in the same situation like
you exactly 17 years ago - staying on the bridge and staring at the roof -hi.
However, I had the advantage to be more or less fluent in russian and I even
made an attempt to go inside the building. As you can guess, the door keeper
wasn't very happy to see some 17-year old teenager speaking with strange accent
and asking even more strange questions about some stuff on the roof. So I was
told that it's too late (about 6PM) and there is nobody left which evidently
wasn't true -hi. That was my first and last attempt to get in touch with
russian HAMs during my stay there.
So, about your question - the antennas belong to RZ1AWT, the club station at
the State Institute of Aerospace Technology. It's not RU1A but if I'm not
mistaken RU1A team consists mostly of RZ1AWT members. RU1A is strictly a
contest site and is situated out of the sity, so I'm wondering why the
organizers of this excursion didn't arrange something with RU1A gang - it could
have been really interesting, at least this the biggest MS in this part of
Europe. Actually 2 guys from RU1A - RW1AC and RV1AW were among WRTC contesters.
Well, I hope you enjoyed your stay in the world's most beautiful city (sorry
Paris, you're still far behind) and you'll keep good memories of that.
73,
Alex LZ4AX/AA3AX
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Sat Jul 20 03:33:27 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] the Eagle and the TOad have landed
Message-ID: <01f601c22fb7$5ba8b960$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
A small group of about a dozen enthusiastic members and friends of the
Florida Contest Group met WC4 E and K1 TO as they landed in Tampa tonight -
I mean this morning...
WC4E was a referee at the WRTC in Finland this year and as we all know K1TO
was again co-champion with N5TJ...
The bleary eyed duo having been flying for 21 hours was greeted with posters
balloons and official hoopla!
Thanks to all the FCG members who made it out tonight - and stayed despite
their flight being delayed for over three hours...
I think they couldn't get off the ground in Philadelphia because the
Frankford Radio Club was plotting to steal K1TO away from the FCG - not a
chance!
Welcome Home Jeff The Ref and Dan The Man
K4FCG
>From yt3t at absolutok.net Sat Jul 20 09:32:00 2002
From: yt3t@absolutok.net (Kele YT3T)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: UA1 antennas
References: <200207200238.g6K2c25r019631@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <002601c22fb7$30615140$9be45d50@jstajcic>
> Cadet School of something. We saw five or six element monobanders, plus
> some other stuff. Anyone know what station this is ? Could it be RU1A ?
<kc1f>
Hi Stu,
if you have ever checked score submissions by RU1A, you would not make such
underestimates of their antennas.
It is obvious that, when using indoor dipole made of copper tape sticked to
the window, one forgets that EVEN UA1 can run 4x5 ele H framed stacked yagis
on 15m band, or monster 40m yagi... :-)
73 Kele YU1AO
(WRTC 2K ref to Geo & Jeff)
http://QSLL.com
>From K7LXC at aol.com Sat Jul 20 06:06:30 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC vs. IARU
Message-ID: <4FAE9C1D.4C1DF043.0000DB5D@aol.com>
In a message dated Fri, 19 Jul 2002 3:18:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
n3bb@mindspring.com writes:
> >Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
Hmm, I think the answer is very simple. The original WRTC was held in
conjuction with the Goodwill Games which was held in Seattle in July, 1990.
That was the only window of opportunity that could have allowed the Russian
guys to attend. We on the organizing committee approached the ITU for some sort
of special multiplier status but they weren't interested. So then we decided to
have a separate contest which was very problematic because we were giving a
party and didn't know if anyone would show up. Fortunately people came and it
all turned out great.
The current WRTC events perhap are more historically tied to a July
timeframe from the beginning and coincidentally the IARU test fits the bill
from a WRTC standpoint.
I have to chuckle about the previously posted analytical comments of 'why
the IARU' because originally we didn't consider them - we just made it up as we
went along!
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
WRTC Seattle Co-Chairman
WRTC Sanctiong Committee Chairman
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Sat Jul 20 08:34:16 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Cleanup
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKEAIDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Folks....
Both my laptop and my 756pro acquired an overspray of OFF,
from the overnight gang at field day. Mostly on the major
caseworks...not display or knobs/keyboard, for the most part.
Any thoughts about cleaning techniques?
The alcohol impregnated screen cleaner wipes don't budge it.
Am about to try a damp cloth with a bit of soap....with an
alcohol wipe follow-up.
Ideas most welcome.
Jim/N2EA
>From okomdxc at radioamater.cz Sat Jul 20 14:47:59 2002
From: okomdxc@radioamater.cz (OK-OM DX Contest Committee)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OK-OM DX Contest 2001 - filnal results available
Message-ID: <128282581.20020720134759@radioamater.cz>
Dr. OM!
Final results of OK-OM DX Contest 2001 are available at
http://okomdx.radioamater.cz.
Log checking engine is made by Zdenek, OK1DSZ
(webmaster@radioamater.cz), all thanks to him!
In case of any questions please be patient, it's time of holidays...
I will be QRV since 1st of August.
73!
Martin Huml
OK1FUA, in the contests: OL5Y, IH9/OL5Y, IH9P, S586U (WRTC 2000), 9A0A
OK-OM DX Contest director
OKOMDXC@radioamater.cz
http://okomdx.radioamater.cz
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Sat Jul 20 09:11:19 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WriteLog] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
Message-ID: <7e.2ac95273.2a6aad67@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/20/2002 11:48:56 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
cwman@juno.com writes:
> I sent a reply to John. Wasn't there something in the rules about R1 and R2
> (Region 1 and Region 2)?
>
Here is what the IARU rules say:
8. Multipliers: The total number of ITU zones plus IARU member society HQ
stations worked on each band (not mode.) IARU officials represent a maximum
of four multipliers per band (AC, R1, R2 and R3).
So, R1, R2 and R3 are IARU officials, like PA0LOU, not ITU regions of the
world.
Seems to me that /mm stations should score 1, 3 or 5 points, depending on
their location in or out of your zone/continent.
73, Geo...
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From k4bai at worldnet.att.net Sat Jul 20 09:54:34 2002
From: k4bai@worldnet.att.net (John T. Laney, III)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WriteLog] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
References: <197.a00610a.2a6a2610@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3D395D8A.44EDA09B@worldnet.att.net>
This is an interesting question and deserves an answer. I doubt that
there are any zero point QSOs intended for the contest. If /MM
contacts were not permitted, it would be impossible to work some of the
IARU zones since many are wholly water. However, it is not worth
worrying a lot about since in the Cabrillo format, the only thing that
is really important is that the logchecking software scores it right.
73, John, K4BAI.
>From k9iua at yahoo.com Sat Jul 20 06:53:10 2002
From: k9iua@yahoo.com (Kevin Anderson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] THANKS (Re: I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?))
Message-ID: <20020720125310.51513.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com>
Thanks to Marty and the other folks that replied
to me off-line with further information about
both the IARU and WRTC contests this last weekend.
I am no longer confused about this particular
combination. However, nobody did answer to me
how the particular teams were picked. I will
assume it was the Finnish club that organized
the WRTC event based on their sense of who the
top contest operators are around the world. I
also gather that there are some old rivalries
here that go back a few years :-).
Cheers/73,
Kevin, K9IUA
=====
-------------------------------------
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k9iua (at) yahoo (dot) com
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>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 20 08:38:31 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Georgia QSO Party Today
Message-ID: <20020720143831.33779.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com>
Hope to see everyone take some time and work all us down in Georgia in
the GQP. The contest starts at 18:00 UTC (2 PM EDT). There will be at
least 6 rovers on that I know about . See
http://gqp.contesting.com/rover_plans.htm . The rules along with any
files you need for the contest are on the GQP website at
http://gqp.contesting.com.
73's Jeff KU8E
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>From k4bai at worldnet.att.net Sat Jul 20 11:53:48 2002
From: k4bai@worldnet.att.net (John T. Laney, III)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Georgia QSO Party today and tomorrow
Message-ID: <3D39797C.7C81C144@worldnet.att.net>
Hello all:
To borrow from K4OJ, just three hours until the annual Georgia QSO Party
kicks off. It appears we will have 8 to 10 mobiles out running our 159
counties as well as other fixed and portable stations. All info is
available at http://gqp.contesting.com including proposed county routes
for 6 of the mobiles, inlcuding K4BAI/M. Please join in the fun as your
time and conditions permit. Many plaques and more certificates will be
awarded in categories of QRP, low and high power.
73,
John, K4BAI for SECC and SEDXC.
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Sat Jul 20 01:02:10 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score .. OI2HQ claimed so far
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DE0@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Hi Folks,
>From dick.green at valley.net Sat Jul 20 16:53:56 2002
From: dick.green@valley.net (Dick Green)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020709212132.009bc940@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGIIEEMCPAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Dave,
Took me a while to get around to replying, but thanks for the observations.
If you read my IARU post, the 40-2CD performed very well under battle
conditions. Atmospheric noise was too high for S-meter comparisons, but I
felt louder on the 40-2CD and never got asked for a repeat. The 4-square was
a little less effective in that regard. The 40-square was a little quieter,
but I ended up using the 580' NE beverage when the noise got real bad. The
big surprise was that the 40-2CD was the same 5-15dB louder to VK2. Guess
the 4-square's angle advantage isn't worth 5.5 dB in the summertime. I'll be
checking that as we get into fall and winter.
I ended up using the 4-square almost exclusively for S&P on the second
radio. It's more than adequate for that purpose. You can't beat the instant
direction switching and deep F/B. It might be worth sweeping the band every
now and then with the 40-2CD to pick up real weak ones.
I modeled the 40-2CD at 50', 75', and 120', and that tells a pretty good
story as well. The gain is comparable, but the angle is 36 degrees at 50',
25 degrees at 75' and 15 degrees at 120'. I imagine that makes a heck of a
difference and will be raising the 40-2CD tower to 75 feet before the fall
contests. The F/B was somewhat better the higher you go, too, but nowhere
near the 4-square.
I really do think it's a different story on 80M and 160M. I've had excellent
results with the 80M 4-squares at K1RX and KT1V. For most of us, we just
can't get a yagi up high enough on those bands. The 4-square has a
tremendous advantage in that regard: as long as you've got the real estate,
can figure out how to raise 65-foot verticals (or top-loaded verticals), and
are willing to spend some time dealing with radials, then there's nothing
better. I use a delta loop at 75' on 80M and it beats the old inverted-vee
by a mile, but it's nowhere near as effective as a 4-square.
73, Dick WC1M
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David A. Pruett [mailto:k8cc@comcast.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:45 PM
> To: dick.green@valley.net; CONTEST
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
>
>
> Dick,
>
> Thanks for sharing your observations on your 40M four-square vs. a
> 40-2CD. My only caveat is to keep in mind that the comparison you make
> during the summer will not always jibe with the same comparison in
> winter. Radiation angles tend to be higher in the summer which
> would favor
> the low yagi over the verticals. Your observation about the gain of a
> four-square being 6 dB *over a vertical* which makes it about even with a
> dipole over ground is absolutely correct. However, its not the
> entire story.
>
> We've been using a wire four-square on 80M here at K8CC since
> 1994. We've
> had just about every kind of 80M DX antenna here at this
> location: slopers,
> delta loops, bobtails, half-squares, a 3L wire yagi and even a beautiful
> N4ZC-style log periodic with the center at 110' and the ends at
> 90'. It's
> my opinion (and shared by my guest operators) that none of these antennas
> match the four-square, at least on 80M when you're limited to
> 120' supports.
>
> That is not to say that the others were bad antennas. The simple little
> half-square made UN2L's "loud LP 80M signals" list one year. The
> wire yagi
> and N4ZC log periodic made lots of gain and were great pileup
> crashers. But until we put up the four-square we couldn't hear
> down to the
> weak layer of EU necessary to be able to run successfully on CW from
> W8. Once we put up the four-square, the results were immediately
> noticable
> on our 80M line score, and our 80M op was a lot happier too.
>
> Again, I agree with your observation that verticals (and hence,
> four-squares) don't radiate as much signal as a dipole over ground. I've
> often found, particularly on 75 SSB that with the four-square we can hear
> more DX stations than we can work. With northern Europeans particularly,
> I'll call and call a perfectly copiable SM or OH and not even get a QRZ?
> from them. My gut says if I could run about four or five KW output the
> transmit signal from the four-square would match the ability to
> receive. However, my conscience won't let me do that...
>
> A couple of years ago K3LR (who has a great 80M four-square made from
> Hy-Towers) decided to try some big horizontal antennas like a
> W2PV 2L quad
> and a 3L linear-loaded yagi. Perhaps he'd like to share his observations
> here on the reflector, but neither antenna replaced his four-square.
>
> Finally, the answer for 80M might be different than for 40M...
>
> 73,
>
> Dave/K8CC
>
>
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Sat Jul 20 17:02:10 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WriteLog] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
Message-ID: <88.1b437464.2a6b1bc2@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/20/2002 12:53:31 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
k4bai@worldnet.att.net writes:
> However, it is not worth
> worrying a lot about since in the Cabrillo format, the only thing that
> is really important is that the logchecking software scores it right.
>
Hi, John,
Yes, /mm contacts are certainly legitimate contacts, and should be worth
points. I would like WL to score them correctly. You are correct, however,
about it not being a Cabrillo file issue.
73, Geo...
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Jul 20 23:49:11 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] August CQ Magazine Online (sort of)
References: <1.5.4.32.20020719204839.0073cbe8@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <3D39DAD7.DFF1E651@harborside.com>
Bill Tippett wrote:
>
> I was searching CQ Magazine's site for an e-mail address
> to check my subscription expiration and was quite surprised to
> see several new features on the Website for the August issue which
> includes the CQ WW SSB results:
Hi Bill
Not bad. And you don't have to be a "member" to read what's on
their website. 73
Tom W7WHY
>From thompson at mindspring.com Sat Jul 20 21:23:03 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clarification CW, SSB and the FCC
Message-ID: <00bf01c2304d$fbe37c80$fe2745cf@default>
First off the person who heard this comment was a retired FCC Engineer (then
called a FOB Chief Engineer). He was with a group of visiting hams. This
was about 1 year ago when the FCC Chairman was new. My take it was a
challenge statement not a statement to abandon CW and SSB.
The retired Engineer also said lip service was paid to emergency service
too. I think from this we can gather the feeling inside the FCC (except
for Riley??).
I also brought this up again (I mentioned it last year on another reflector)
as I want to bring us back to the real world and the thread about CW versus
SSB is non productive! If you like one mode or the other then no matter
what is said you won't change your mind.
I also found out that several don't believe that digital (from RTTY to PSK
31 et al) is really amateur radio. I seem to remember the diehard AMers
saying that about SSB 40 years ago.
And Phone man Lew McCoy had to tread lightly at ARRL in the early 1950's as
the General manager was CW forever and only!
Back to contesting!
73 Dave K4JRB
>From eric at k3na.org Sun Jul 21 08:00:21 2002
From: eric@k3na.org (Eric Scace K3NA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
In-Reply-To: <000001c22a11$87cf0fe0$b69ffea9@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <NEBBJKPCLKFDODKNIPHKOECGGKAA.eric@k3na.org>
I have done this for several contests. There are two basic solutions:
a) Use two computers: one for logging and one to control the Kachina. This is
preferred as it eliminates the need to change window
focus between radio and logging software, a major impediment to S&P operation.
Furthermore, there are SERIOUS keyboard conflicts
between the two applications; e.g., F1 in many logging software packages sends
the CQ message... while F1 on a Kachina shifts the
radio to a memory frequency and obliterates what you were doing! Keeping the
applications on separate machines reduces (but does
not eliminate) these kinds of cockpit errors.
This recommendation goes double if you are using a tuning knob. The knob
goes dead when the Kachina software does not have the
keyboard focus.
b) If you must use only one computer, you should practice a lot in advance. It
is also worthwhile to obtain and configure a
keyboard macro utility, to replace some of the multi-step sequences one will
need to switch around the various applications. Think
creatively.
-- Eric K3NA
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dennis McAlpine
Sent: 2002 July 13 Sat 03:59
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Cc: Japha, Tony
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
My friend N2UN, who lives in an antenna deprived part of NYC, has successfully
managed to put up an R-7000 vertical antenna at his
office. He is talking to a Kachina at his office from his apartment via the
phone lines and using some x-10 devices to turn the
power on and off.
Now like any good contester, Tony is trying how to use this remotely activated
station in a contest. His question is how do you use
the Kachina operating software at thesame time as a contest logging program,
e.g. WriteLog, CT, NA, etc. Has anyone had any
experience with this probem and how did you do it?
Thanks for the help. It mayget another station on the air for us all to work.
73,
Dennis, K2SX
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sun Jul 21 12:58:40 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clarification CW, SSB and the FCC
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020721105840.00cc3fd4@pop.vnet.net>
K4JRB wrote:
>First off the person who heard this comment was a retired FCC Engineer (then
called a FOB Chief Engineer). He was with a group of visiting hams. This
was about 1 year ago when the FCC Chairman was new. My take it was a
challenge statement not a statement to abandon CW and SSB.
Original statement: "The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that
its time for amateurs to move to the new modes and leave what he considers
are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31
is superior to CW in weak signal environments."
"Obsolete" is a very strong word which the dictionary defines as:
1.No longer in use: an obsolete word.
2.Outmoded in design, style, or construction: an obsolete locomotive.
Neither CW nor SSB is obsolete; in fact, both are far superior to any of
the new digital modes at rapidly communicating information between
many different stations under extreme conditions. In fact, PSK31 has
NOT been proven to be superior to CW in weak signal environments IMHO.
PSK31, WSJT, QRSS, etc are superior ONLY if you know the exact frequency
to tune your receiver to the signal buried in noise. Without this
critical information (either from a prearranged schedule or via the
Internet), they cannot magically extract signals from noise. Can you
imagine a contest where you tune your receiver but cannot hear the
signals? I don't think so.
I think it always is in our interest to challenge factually
incorrect statements, especially if they are attributed to someone who
is in a position to affect us. What we need is more education of our
officials and maybe a little more critical thinking before accepting as
gospel some of their pronouncements. In this case, I think it remains
to be proven exactly what Chairman Powell actually said.
"I also found out that several don't believe that digital
(from RTTY to PSK 31 et al) is really amateur radio." That is not
what was said. What I said was "I personally do not think a
computer-to-computer 'QSO' means much". I specifically meant when
neither station can hear the other station (with their own ears),
and I'll stand by my statement. To me, a QSO like this is just like
nets where the Netmeister tells each side of the QSO "Good Contact"
when in fact neither station can hear the other. The only difference
is our computers have replaced the Netmeister!
73, Bill W4ZV
>From ww3s at zoominternet.net Sun Jul 21 09:21:22 2002
From: ww3s@zoominternet.net (Jamie WW3S)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W9XT card for sale
Message-ID: <005f01c230b1$20b9fe40$6601a8c0@zoominternet.net>
For Sale: W9XT voice keyer card and homebrew cable for 8 pin Kenwood.
Includes original manual.Cable has ptt jack, mic in, 8 pin mic ou, cw key
out. This is one of the original models; can't remember if 16 or 20 seconds
of audio. 75.00 +shipping. Paypal preferred; money order or check ok. 73
Jamie WW3S
>From k9iua at yahoo.com Sun Jul 21 07:19:34 2002
From: k9iua@yahoo.com (Kevin Anderson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Thanks again (re WRTC team selection...)
Message-ID: <20020721131934.26525.qmail@web14707.mail.yahoo.com>
Thanks again to the eight or so who replied
off-line to my followup question regarding
WRTC team selection. Obviously next time I
will be more aware of what the e-mail traffic
means when it comes time for WRTC team member
selections. (Being confused about what WRTC
was in the first place meant that I was
unable to put in context the "hundreds of
e-mails" on CQ-Contest on team selection -
my failure I guess :-).
Cheers/73,
Kevin, K9IUA
=====
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k9iua (at) yahoo (dot) com
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>From w7why at harborside.com Sun Jul 21 17:25:26 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clarification CW, SSB and the FCC
References: <00bf01c2304d$fbe37c80$fe2745cf@default>
Message-ID: <3D3AD266.C214F959@harborside.com>
"David L. Thompson" wrote:
> I also found out that several don't believe that digital (from >RTTY to PSK
> 31 et al) is really amateur radio.
Hi Dave et al
Maybe not so much now, but when I first got into rtty it was
definitely amateur radio. Everyone built their own equipment,
scrounged old machines to get going, etc. I got started with an
old Model 14 strip printer and a 555 op-amp TU that I built.
Then moved up to a ST-5 (homebrew) then a DT-600 (also homebrew).
Almost everyone was using stuff they modified or built
themselves. The first SAC contest I worked I used a Model 15 and
Model 14 reperf. Made 125 Q's with 25 countries and made WAC in
that contest. Most of the guys operating RTTY now are guys that
have been around for a while. PSK--now that's a different story
:-( 73
Tom W7WHY
>From k2av at contesting.com Sun Jul 21 13:45:42 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
References: <NEBBJKPCLKFDODKNIPHKOECGGKAA.eric@k3na.org>
Message-ID: <009001c230d6$0dbf9870$0500a8c0@swift>
Understand.
Where do you put the two monitors? What kind and size are they?
Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Scace K3NA" <eric@k3na.org>
To: "Dennis McAlpine" <dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net>; "Cq-Contest"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 7:00 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
> I have done this for several contests. There are two basic
solutions:
>
> a) Use two computers: one for logging and one to control the
Kachina. This is preferred as it eliminates the need to change window
> focus between radio and logging software, a major impediment to S&P
operation. Furthermore, there are SERIOUS keyboard conflicts
> between the two applications; e.g., F1 in many logging software
packages sends the CQ message... while F1 on a Kachina shifts the
> radio to a memory frequency and obliterates what you were doing!
Keeping the applications on separate machines reduces (but does
> not eliminate) these kinds of cockpit errors.
>
> This recommendation goes double if you are using a tuning knob.
The knob goes dead when the Kachina software does not have the
> keyboard focus.
>
> b) If you must use only one computer, you should practice a lot in
advance. It is also worthwhile to obtain and configure a
> keyboard macro utility, to replace some of the multi-step sequences
one will need to switch around the various applications. Think
> creatively.
>
> -- Eric K3NA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dennis McAlpine
> Sent: 2002 July 13 Sat 03:59
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Cc: Japha, Tony
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
>
>
> My friend N2UN, who lives in an antenna deprived part of NYC, has
successfully managed to put up an R-7000 vertical antenna at his
> office. He is talking to a Kachina at his office from his apartment
via the phone lines and using some x-10 devices to turn the
> power on and off.
>
> Now like any good contester, Tony is trying how to use this remotely
activated station in a contest. His question is how do you use
> the Kachina operating software at thesame time as a contest logging
program, e.g. WriteLog, CT, NA, etc. Has anyone had any
> experience with this probem and how did you do it?
>
> Thanks for the help. It mayget another station on the air for us
all to work.
>
> 73,
>
> Dennis, K2SX
>
>
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>From w9sz at prairienet.org Sun Jul 21 12:58:50 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clarification CW, SSB and the FCC
In-Reply-To: <3D3AD266.C214F959@harborside.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207211148540.3915-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Tom Osborne wrote:
>
>
> "David L. Thompson" wrote:
>
> > I also found out that several don't believe that digital (from >RTTY to PSK
> > 31 et al) is really amateur radio.
>
> Hi Dave et al
>
> Maybe not so much now, but when I first got into rtty it was
> definitely amateur radio. Everyone built their own equipment,
> scrounged old machines to get going, etc. I got started with an
> old Model 14 strip printer and a 555 op-amp TU that I built.
> Then moved up to a ST-5 (homebrew) then a DT-600 (also homebrew).
> Almost everyone was using stuff they modified or built
> themselves. The first SAC contest I worked I used a Model 15 and
> Model 14 reperf. Made 125 Q's with 25 countries and made WAC in
> that contest. Most of the guys operating RTTY now are guys that
> have been around for a while. PSK--now that's a different story
> :-( 73
> Tom W7WHY
I have been active on RTTY, PSK31, MFSK16, Hellschreiber, etc. and I
really don't see any difference in what is actually done with any of these
modes. Some are wider in spectrum, some are narrower, some get through
better than others - but it's basically typing the information back and
forth and watching it appear on a screen instead of listening to it. You
still have to see the screen in real time and reply in real time.
I don't see any difference in how to conduct a QSO on RTTY or PSK31. The
only difference is the equipment used. Most RTTY stations these days use
computers. It's still fun.
I consider "radio" to be anything that is propagated between two antennas,
regardless of the mode it uses. If it goes from a transmitter to an
antenna, propagates by free space, ionosphere, tropo ducting, FAI, EME or
whatever and is received at another antenna, it's radio.
73, Zack W9SZ
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Sun Jul 21 23:56:33 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (Bob Wruble)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] speaking of parts prices...
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20020718153646.00a5f9a0@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <011401c23144$88c3ddb0$bcee3d04@bobhome>
a mouse recently chewed the ear muff on my new pro-set boom
mike set. i sent it to heil for repair. they did it quickly and charged me
$8. a fair price in my mind!! de w7gg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] speaking of parts prices...
> What's with Heil? They used to have a good reputation for providing small
> parts reasonably, but I recently bought a boom clip and a pair of earpads
> for a BM-10 from them. The charge was $5.00 for each item, plus $3.00
S&H,
> and they arrived USPS in a box with 60 cents postage on it. Yes, I know
> about the cost of handling small orders, but I think these prices have it
> built in several times over...
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Jul 22 02:56:22 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K1TO and WC4E arrive in Tampa - pix on website below
Message-ID: <01ec01c23144$83bc7b60$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
...for shots of how we treat our WRTC Champion please go to the following
website and scroll down - Welcome Home Dan K1TO ( and Jeff, the Ref, WC4E ).
...check out the West Central Florida ARRL Division website for the piece on
the return of Dit and Dahs
http://www.wcfarrl.org/smcol.html
...unfortunately, fourth place (second US) finisher N2NL flew home into the
other coast immediately after WRTC and we couldn't do the same for him!
Congratulations From All of The Florida Contest Group and thanks team
WRTC2002 Finland for putting on such a fine show.
K4FCG
>From eric at k3na.org Mon Jul 22 08:10:39 2002
From: eric@k3na.org (Eric Scace K3NA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
In-Reply-To: <009001c230d6$0dbf9870$0500a8c0@swift>
Message-ID: <NEBBJKPCLKFDODKNIPHKGEFHGKAA.eric@k3na.org>
Two laptops were used.
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Guy Olinger, K2AV
Sent: 2002 July 21 Sun 12:46
To: eric@k3na.org; Dennis McAlpine; Cq-Contest
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
Understand.
Where do you put the two monitors? What kind and size are they?
Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Scace K3NA" <eric@k3na.org>
To: "Dennis McAlpine" <dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net>; "Cq-Contest"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 7:00 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
> I have done this for several contests. There are two basic
solutions:
>
> a) Use two computers: one for logging and one to control the
Kachina. This is preferred as it eliminates the need to change window
> focus between radio and logging software, a major impediment to S&P
operation. Furthermore, there are SERIOUS keyboard conflicts
> between the two applications; e.g., F1 in many logging software
packages sends the CQ message... while F1 on a Kachina shifts the
> radio to a memory frequency and obliterates what you were doing!
Keeping the applications on separate machines reduces (but does
> not eliminate) these kinds of cockpit errors.
>
> This recommendation goes double if you are using a tuning knob.
The knob goes dead when the Kachina software does not have the
> keyboard focus.
>
> b) If you must use only one computer, you should practice a lot in
advance. It is also worthwhile to obtain and configure a
> keyboard macro utility, to replace some of the multi-step sequences
one will need to switch around the various applications. Think
> creatively.
>
> -- Eric K3NA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dennis McAlpine
> Sent: 2002 July 13 Sat 03:59
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Cc: Japha, Tony
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
>
>
> My friend N2UN, who lives in an antenna deprived part of NYC, has
successfully managed to put up an R-7000 vertical antenna at his
> office. He is talking to a Kachina at his office from his apartment
via the phone lines and using some x-10 devices to turn the
> power on and off.
>
> Now like any good contester, Tony is trying how to use this remotely
activated station in a contest. His question is how do you use
> the Kachina operating software at thesame time as a contest logging
program, e.g. WriteLog, CT, NA, etc. Has anyone had any
> experience with this probem and how did you do it?
>
> Thanks for the help. It mayget another station on the air for us
all to work.
>
> 73,
>
> Dennis, K2SX
>
>
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>From wd4ahz at gte.net Mon Jul 22 11:09:44 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Section News and Contest Results
Message-ID: <3D3C1228.BD697366@gte.net>
Frank,
Thanks for your support in keeping Section News and Contest Results in
QST. Unfortunately, this was already a "done deal" scheduled for the
last BOD Meeting ... but the membership "outcry" put that on hold until
this meeting.
The "dumbing down" of Amateur Radio that the ARRL has been pushing, has
finally completely overtaken QST, since Contest Results and Section
News, were the last bits of "non fluff" left in QST ... and now those
will be gone.
I hope this action brings about the desired outcome, but previous
actions by the ARRL to increase membership (by dumbing down Amateur
Radio) have not worked. This may save money by reducing the number of
pages (or will something take their place?), but may also turn some
current members away, since many feel the ARRL no longer represents the
membership or the best interest of Amateur Radio ... instead the ARRL
now acts in the best interest of the ARRL.
The question now, is if the "National Contest Journal", NCJ, can be
expanded to make it a monthly contest magazine. I already subscribe to
NCJ, but would gladly drop QST in favor of an expanded NCJ.
Thanks,
Ron Wetjen, WD4AHZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 22 08:46:13 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207221446.g6MEkDm22043@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
J75KG 1654 661 192 24 1,776,768 FCG
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S LP
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW LP
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
RA9JR 2011 8927 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
RN4LP 1505 4683 251 24 1,175,433
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 14 463,606 HSDXA
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
K1HT 399 123 139 8 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 22 2,342,130 Other (specify when
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
FM5GU 0 1492 99 9 609,246
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 22 08:47:07 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207221447.g6MEl7J22052@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op QRP
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 1 15 SECC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 22 08:47:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207221447.g6MElnD22061@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/2 QRP
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 22 08:49:32 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207221449.g6MEnWd22070@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
VA3DX 388 147 10 58,200
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 9 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
W6ZL 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
K3FH 176 98 8 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 6 14,964
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
IK0HBN 150 57 9 8,550
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 2 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K6OWL 46 34 2 1,564
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Mon Jul 22 12:07:28 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] speaking of parts prices...
Message-ID: <73.22df8ce8.2a6d79b0@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/22/2002 2:12:49 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
bob.wruble@verizon.net writes:
> a mouse recently chewed the ear muff on my new pro-set boom
> mike set. i sent it to heil for repair. they did it quickly and charged
> me
> $8. a fair price in my mind!! de w7gg
>
Sounds like it's high time for a cordless mouse!
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Mon Jul 22 16:59:50 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC logs
Message-ID: <01c2317f$aa5ca0c0$LocalHost@default>
Hi gang,
Here are some comments re WRTC2002 logs by Risto, OH3UU.
For any questions, please contact oh3uu@sral.fi
73 Ari OH1EH
Hello Folks !
Just visiting at home during my holiday.
First of all, my apologies to all. We were not able to confirm received Early
Bird logs for WRTC2002 due to the tremendous email traffic and pile up with
incoming team logs.
Enclosed please find some statistic about received emails:
Emails total 2242
Count of the logs 1343 (there were several updated emails)
(the count will increase because some emails have more than one log)
Early Bird logs 943
Sex offers 68
Messages with virus 35
Logs with virus alert 32
Corrupted logs abt. 10 (not sure if all were logs)
Money begging 10
The numbers are unofficial and we will start to process the logs more carefully
after the holiday season.
Thanks to all for co-operation
73, Risto
oh3uu@welho.com
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Jul 22 13:15:44 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
Message-ID: <007501c2319b$086f50c0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
snippets taken from one account of the past weekend's board meeting:
ALERT: Sun, July 21, 2002; 11:04 PM ET
Section News and Contest Scores Moving to the Web
In a controversial decision the ARRL Board has voted 9 to 6 to remove
Section News and contest scores from QST as of the January 2003 issue.
The roll call vote is as follows:
Opposed:
Roderick-K5UR-Delta Div., Fuller-N3EFN-Atlantic Div.,
Race-WB8BGY-Great Lakes Div.,
Milnes-W7OZ-Northwestern Div., Maxwell-W6CF-Pacific
Div., and
Butler-W4RH-Southeastern Div.
Voting for the removal:
Isely-W9GIG-Central Div.,
Bellows-K0QB-Dakota Div., Fallon-N2FF-Hudson Div.,
Walstrom-W0EJ-Midwest Div.,
Frenaye-K1KI-New England Div., Bodson-W4PWF-Roanoke
Div., Stinson-W0CP-Rock
Mountain Div., Goddard-W6XD-Southwestern Div. and
Day-N5OK-West Gulf Div. All
directors can be reach at their call-signs @ arrl.org.
Great Lakes Division Director George
un-snip
...I am sure full details are or are about to be posted at the ARRL website.
Thank you W4RH for voting in favor of contest score retention in QST and
the chance to expose non-contesters to contesting...hopefully the ARRL will
allow QST to use as much space for promotion of OPERATING versus mere
license holding and vhf transceiver buying.
The post "un-snip" comments are my own...and the snippets in the top part of
the message were edited from the WCF section webpage.
73,
Jim, K4OJ
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 22 15:54:41 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
In-Reply-To: <007501c2319b$086f50c0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20020722215441.41977.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
I bet the ARRL will see those who solely subscribed to QST for contest
results and writeups not renewing their subscriptions. I agree with
moving section news because it's boring stuff that lots of people don't
even read. Just wait until they stop printing the DXCC listings !!!
I really don't think the ARRL has a clue about demographics.
Contesting
and DXing are by far the most popular amateur radio activities and
these two groups are the ones buying the products that are advertising
in QST. Does this mean we are now going to see great articles like "
How to Effectively Ragchew on the 75 Meter Band" in QST ????
Maybe someone can clue me in why the ARRL takes the attitude that
contesters/DXer's are the minority ????
I live in Atlanta, GA , which is a pretty big metro area of about 4
million people. I can't imagine that talking on 2 meter repeaters is
very popular. There has to be a repeater on every split possible and I
hardly hear anyone using these repeaters???
How about weak signal VHF/UHF ???? Well it's seems most of the time
there isn't much activity in most parts of the country unless there
is a contest going on ???
How about digital modes ??? Well most of the guys I know that do this
are either contesting or DXing. Sure there are guys probably handling
traffic but the whole thing is so automated now it's like me just
sending an email on my computer.... What's so fun about that ???
That leaves all those "ragchewers" out there. There must be tons of
them because during the weekday the bands have have no activity. It
picks up during the weekend but the bands are by no means crowded if it
is a non-contest weekend.
I really feel bad for the future of ham radio. To do most of all the so
called "hot" activities is many times too expensive for the newcomer.
Maybe I shouldn't complain because when all those 50 something
contesters are all gone in 20-30 years from now I can have 14.001 all
to myself !!!!
73's from Clueless in Georgia , Jeff
--- "Jim White, K4OJ" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> snippets taken from one account of the past weekend's board meeting:
>
>
> ALERT: Sun, July 21, 2002; 11:04 PM ET
>
> Section News and Contest Scores Moving to the Web
>
> In a controversial decision the ARRL Board has voted 9 to 6 to remove
> Section News and contest scores from QST as of the January 2003
> issue.
>
> The roll call vote is as follows:
>
> Opposed:
> Roderick-K5UR-Delta Div., Fuller-N3EFN-Atlantic
> Div.,
> Race-WB8BGY-Great Lakes Div.,
> Milnes-W7OZ-Northwestern Div.,
> Maxwell-W6CF-Pacific
> Div., and
> Butler-W4RH-Southeastern Div.
>
>
> Voting for the removal:
>
>
> Isely-W9GIG-Central Div.,
> Bellows-K0QB-Dakota Div., Fallon-N2FF-Hudson
> Div.,
> Walstrom-W0EJ-Midwest Div.,
> Frenaye-K1KI-New England Div.,
> Bodson-W4PWF-Roanoke
> Div., Stinson-W0CP-Rock
> Mountain Div., Goddard-W6XD-Southwestern Div.
> and
> Day-N5OK-West Gulf Div. All
> directors can be reach at their call-signs @
> arrl.org.
> Great Lakes Division Director George
>
>
> un-snip
>
> ...I am sure full details are or are about to be posted at the ARRL
> website.
>
>
> Thank you W4RH for voting in favor of contest score retention in QST
> and
> the chance to expose non-contesters to contesting...hopefully the
> ARRL will
> allow QST to use as much space for promotion of OPERATING versus mere
> license holding and vhf transceiver buying.
>
> The post "un-snip" comments are my own...and the snippets in the top
> part of
> the message were edited from the WCF section webpage.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, K4OJ
>
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>From kc1f at adelphia.net Mon Jul 22 23:34:44 2002
From: kc1f@adelphia.net (Stuart Santelmann)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Results of UA1 antenna query
Message-ID: <01bd01c231c7$a7aa3d40$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Hello everyone:
I had several reponses to my question about the big HF station in St.
Petersburg, Russia, near the "Kissing Bridge". For those who may be
curious, here they are:
- One vote for "a Finnish businessman"
- One vote for UZ1AWX, reported to be some of the same guys as RU1A
- One vote for RZ1AWT, also reported to be many of the same guys as RU1A
- One vote for "old city small QTH of RU1A", with the main one being
outside of the city
- One vote apparently wondering how I could have thought such "small"
antennas could be RU1A, hi
I don't think it had occurred to any of us to talk to the WRTC competitors
from that area RW1AC or RV1AW to see how close they were to the city for a
possible eyeball and a beer at the hotel during our visit - next time, hi
best 73 Stu KC1F
>From k9gx at yahoo.com Mon Jul 22 17:34:02 2002
From: k9gx@yahoo.com (Mark Williams)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC logs
In-Reply-To: <01c2317f$aa5ca0c0$LocalHost@default>
Message-ID: <20020722233402.11838.qmail@web13007.mail.yahoo.com>
Risto...and all
Sex offers? Obviously whoever made those offers hadn't looked at any of the
many digital photos of our group at WRTC...face it we're not the "jet
set/pretty people". Or maybe they DID and figured we needed some help in that
area (grin)
Hopefully those "sex offers" were not also the ones with "viruses"...yecch!
There weren't any offers of "favors" for overlooking UBN's, I hope!
73 to all...and thanks again to everyone who made WRTC 2002 such a special
event for all of us who were there
Mark
K9GX/OI2HQ 15m SSB SRAL team
Ari Korhonen <ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi> wrote: Hi gang,
Here are some comments re WRTC2002 logs by Risto, OH3UU.
For any questions, please contact oh3uu@sral.fi
73 Ari OH1EH
Hello Folks !
Just visiting at home during my holiday.
First of all, my apologies to all. We were not able to confirm received Early
Bird logs for WRTC2002 due to the tremendous email traffic and pile up with
incoming team logs.
Enclosed please find some statistic about received emails:
Emails total 2242
Count of the logs 1343 (there were several updated emails)
(the count will increase because some emails have more than one log)
Early Bird logs 943
Sex offers 68
Messages with virus 35
Logs with virus alert 32
Corrupted logs abt. 10 (not sure if all were logs)
Money begging 10
The numbers are unofficial and we will start to process the logs more carefully
after the holiday season.
Thanks to all for co-operation
73, Risto
oh3uu@welho.com
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>From k3ft at erols.com Mon Jul 22 20:45:49 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MDC QSO party
Message-ID: <3D3CA73D.35D@erols.com>
Reminder, MDC QSO party - Two days. Saturday August 10, 2002. Starts at 1200
local and
runs until 2400 local. Sunday, August 11, 2002 runs from 1200 local until 8pm
local.
Rules are available on W3CWC website. (See search engine for W3CWC, Antietam
Radio Association, MDC QSO PARTY for URL's.
You can find FREE Logging software available at URL
http://www.qsl.net/w3km/gen_log.htm
This software is FREE to download. Also download the counties file as well. I
have
downloaded it and tried it. Installed easily, opened easily, and has MANY QSO
parties
and other contest templates included. INcludes counties list too.
Two files.. Genlog.exe and Genlogx.exe plus the counties file. Suggest you
download the
history.txt files and the other associated ones too.
It claims to do the ADIF import/export and has a general logging program too.
I have no connection to anyone or any group involved in this program I wanted
to let
others who were looking for QSO party software know about it.
CU in the QSO party!
73
Chuck K3FT
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Mon Jul 22 23:56:03 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
In-Reply-To: <20020722215441.41977.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207222239550.12687-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Jeffrey Clarke wrote:
> How about weak signal VHF/UHF ???? Well it's seems most of the time
> there isn't much activity in most parts of the country unless there
> is a contest going on ???
That's pretty much the case around here. There are a few people who get
on and ragchew on 144 MHz SSB but the higher bands are pretty empty except
for contests.
>
> How about digital modes ??? Well most of the guys I know that do this
> are either contesting or DXing. Sure there are guys probably handling
> traffic but the whole thing is so automated now it's like me just
> sending an email on my computer.... What's so fun about that ???
>
We just got a group going in this area to experiment with PSK31, MFSK16
etc on 144 MHz. We're using 144.150 right now. The digital modes CAN be
fun and real-time communication bewteen two people is communication
regardless of whether it's done on CW, SSB or digital modes. The digital
modes seem to be a matter of taste, though; some people don't like them.
I do. That's one thing that always intrigued me about this hobby; there
are so many different things to do.
>
> That leaves all those "ragchewers" out there. There must be tons of
> them because during the weekday the bands have have no activity. It
> picks up during the weekend but the bands are by no means crowded if it
> is a non-contest weekend.
>
>From nf1j at earthlink.net Mon Jul 22 21:58:48 2002
From: nf1j@earthlink.net (Warren C. Stankiewicz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
References: <20020722215441.41977.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000701c231fd$420b02e0$e451ff40@familyroom>
Well, if folks are this upset, let's look at the political economic
situation here (without trying to sound Marxist)...
Who voted for this?
Isely-W9GIG-Central Div.,
That's SMC territory, isn't it?
Bellows-K0QB-Dakota Div.
MWA's got a pretty big contingent, I recall, if I'm not mistaken
Fallon-N2FF-Hudson Div.,
I think you could call that 50-50 between FRC and YCCC types
Frenaye-K1KI-New England Div
YCCC
Bodson-W4PWF-Roanoke
Anyone here from PVRC?
Day-N5OK-West Gulf Div.
There's what, two, three big contest clubs in Texas?
And I left out some directors, and a whole bunch of clubs, none
intentionally. Walt Stinson even served on the CAC at one time.
All of you who are ARRL members got the chance to vote for these people. All
these directors would surely show at any regular club meeting, if they were
asked, to address the members, especially a sizeable contingent (I leave out
those who'd show up anyhow).
With malice towards none (I even know and like some of these folks). But if
you voted for them, you got what you paid for. If you didn't vote for them,
you got even less than what you paid for. The ARRL is you, and you should be
telling it what you want, and not the other way around.
Not that I'm suggesting overthrowing the board--that would be a bit too
revolutionary. Nor am I suggesting people resort to the tactics other
organizations use of trying to vote out people who don't represent their
point of view. But if you want your voices to be heard in Newington,.
perhaps folks should consider grouping together on the divisional level
until they make their voices and their points heard.
After all, at it's very core, amateur radio is about *operating*, isn't it?
And who does more of that than people like us?
Again, with malice towards none, and 73,
warren (nf1j/6)
nf1j@earthlink.net
>From k1ir at designet.com Tue Jul 23 09:05:55 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Line Scores in QST - Comments Were Submitted to ARRL
Message-ID: <kde86zh6flzs28i.230720020805@designet-jsi>
Fellow Contesters,
It took quite a long time, but last week as the ARRL BoD meeting was
approaching, we did get the promised Contest Coverage document out to ARRL HQ
staff and to the individual board members. The document can be viewed at:
PDF version: http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
and
HTML version: http://www.designet.com/k1ir/ContestCoverageProposal_071702.htm
About 35 contesters - including ARRL members and non-members, US and non-US
contesters - participated in the creation of this set of proposals. As you'll
observe when you read it, the document goes way beyond the simple question of
how line scores are to be published. It addresses the deeper questions of how
the various aspects of contesting can be presented effectively to all types of
existing and potential audiences.
At this point, we do know that this information was distributed just prior to
the BoD meeting, but we have not heard any specific reactions and we don't know
if or how the proposals influenced voting on the question of line scores.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Tue Jul 23 08:45:07 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
In-Reply-To: <000701c231fd$420b02e0$e451ff40@familyroom>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJMEFEEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> After all, at it's very core, amateur radio is about *operating*,
> isn't it?
> And who does more of that than people like us?
>
The pig-farmers and coal-miners on 75?
>From GaryK9GS at wi.rr.com Tue Jul 23 08:46:24 2002
From: GaryK9GS@wi.rr.com (Gary K9GS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K3EST E-Mail Address??
Message-ID: <001801c23246$f44bc0e0$9a991f41@wi.rr.com>
Does anyone have K3EST's correct e-mail address??
Both the mailto on the CQ Magazine web page and the K3EST@mother.com bounce.
73,
Gary
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
K9GS
Gary Schwartz email: k9gs@arrl.net
Check out K9NS on the web http://www.qsl.net/k9ns/
Society of Midwest Contesters (SMC) GMDXA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>From n4zr at contesting.com Tue Jul 23 09:51:01 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723084201.0248a960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Following is from the ARRL Web, which is having server problems this
morning, so I've taken the liberty of excerpting. Deletion marked with "..."
""Section News," Line Scores Moving from QST to Web; Great Lakes Director
Steps Down
NEWINGTON, CT, Jul 22, 2002--Starting next January, "Section News" and
contest line score results will appear on the ARRL Web site rather than in
QST. Meeting July 19-20 in Windsor, Connecticut, the ARRL Board of
Directors voted 9-6 to approve a resolution formally relocating "Section
News" to the ARRL Web site. "Section News" has appeared in the League's
official journal at least since 1919. The "Section News" Web sites--already
in place--will provide the officials of each ARRL section "the capability
of an up-to-date information resource that can be tailored to the needs of
their section," the resolution said.
...
In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed that the
ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the results of
ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will appear in QST. The
change does not affect ARRL Field Day results, which will continue to be
published in the magazine.
A Web site established earlier this year now includes, among other
features, a searchable database of contest line scores for members and the
ability to easily analyze individual and club scores. There's also an
on-line Soapbox to post comments and photos immediately after a contest, as
well as an expanded narrative for each event. In addition, the resolution
pointed out, the ARRL now offers members the free Contest Rate Sheet
newsletter, which focuses specifically on contesting."
It troubles me is that there is no indication of any intention to improve
in-print coverage of contesting topics, paralleling that in the discussion
on Section News. Perhaps one or more of the directors who reads this
reflector can explain further.
73, Pete N4ZR
>From ludal at dmv.com Tue Jul 23 10:47:47 2002
From: ludal@dmv.com (Dallas Carter)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest reporting
References: <20020722215441.41977.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
<000701c231fd$420b02e0$e451ff40@familyroom>
Message-ID: <00b901c2324f$8a963460$14ea21a2@com>
With all due respect to Jim and others, It was nice to see
how the board voted on this issue; but:
I think we kicked all the air out of this ball 6 months ago.
Many of us wrote to our directors to make our cases, and
it was discussed here ad nausium. The action has now been
taken, and reflects the feelings of the directors constituancies.
At this point we should give the web alternative a chance.
So far, I like what I see; and I was an opponent of the
proposal.
Those who make the point that contesters are the ones who
support the advertisers have not done a very thorough analysis
of the market. The position is only partially true and not
mutually exclusive. The FACT is that contestors ARE in the
numerical minority with regard to ARRL membership, and the
vote probably does represent the membership. If you want
to vote with your feet, that's fine, but let's get this venue back
to contesting topics and drop the League bashing.
73 Dallas W3PP
>From jonathan.schulz at sbt.siemens.com Tue Jul 23 09:48:07 2002
From: jonathan.schulz@sbt.siemens.com (Schulz Jonathan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
Message-ID: <9C9D44629453D611874300508B91A4AC116EC4@hubs.us.abatos.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren C. Stankiewicz [mailto:nf1j@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:59 PM
> To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
>
>
> Well, if folks are this upset, let's look at the political economic
> situation here (without trying to sound Marxist)...
>
> Who voted for this?
>
> Isely-W9GIG-Central Div.,
>
> That's SMC territory, isn't it?
>
Sure is! And Dick is a semi active participant in SS and other contests,
going to have to ask him about this sometime. My take on the whole thing; if
the Web coverage could give us the results in a more timely manner and
continue to be as good as the ones I have seen so far, (SS, ARRL 160) I
couldn't care less that they are dropping line scores in QST.
73,
Jon
K9JLS
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Tue Jul 23 10:47:42 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHCECHDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Guys,
Thanks to you all for the inputs, on how to remove the
overspray of OFF from my laptop and radio, after Field Day.
I thought maybe it'd be worth some quick feedback.
First, no soap removed the little white spots on the laptop case.
I was about to try denatured alcohol, in a small spot, when I decided
to give skin-so-soft a try, first. It removes pine pitch and other stuff from
hair and clothing, so, maybe.... et voila!
Three drops on a damp cloth, and some light rubbing...and the stuff
is gone. Not only do I have a clean station, but it's the sweetest smelling
station in the neighborhood! (be sparing, and wipe it down with a dry cloth
afterwards.)
Next year, I'm going to provide a spray bottle with 50/50 of water/skin-so-soft.
That way, I'm reasonably assured it'll come off. OFF will be banned from the
CW tent!
For those of you who doubt the insect chasing properties of this stuff...don't.
a 50% sol'n w/water works well as a spray. We use it in VT against black flies
and
mosquitos, and in the Carribean for mustiques & no see 'ums. Works great.
73, Jim, n2ea
>From w2up at mindspring.com Tue Jul 23 11:38:35 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723084201.0248a960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
I find it surprising, and disappointing, that two of the directors, K1KI
and N2FF, both of whom are contesters, voted to remove contest
results from QST. While they are under no obligation to explain
themselves, perhaps they would care to, anyway...
Personally, I find QST of little interest of value. As the League is
interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
priced membership:
One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
Comments?
73,
Barry W2UP
On 23 Jul 02, at 8:51, Pete Smith wrote:
> Following is from the ARRL Web, which is having server problems this
> morning, so I've taken the liberty of excerpting. Deletion marked
> with "..."
>
> ""Section News," Line Scores Moving from QST to Web; Great Lakes
> Director Steps Down
>
> NEWINGTON, CT, Jul 22, 2002--Starting next January, "Section News" and
> contest line score results will appear on the ARRL Web site rather
> than in QST. Meeting July 19-20 in Windsor, Connecticut, the ARRL
> Board of Directors voted 9-6 to approve a resolution formally
> relocating "Section News" to the ARRL Web site. "Section News" has
> appeared in the League's official journal at least since 1919. The
> "Section News" Web sites--already in place--will provide the officials
> of each ARRL section "the capability of an up-to-date information
> resource that can be tailored to the needs of their section," the
> resolution said.
>
> ...
>
> In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed that
> the ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the results
> of ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will appear in
> QST. The change does not affect ARRL Field Day results, which will
> continue to be published in the magazine.
>
> A Web site established earlier this year now includes, among other
> features, a searchable database of contest line scores for members and
> the ability to easily analyze individual and club scores. There's also
> an on-line Soapbox to post comments and photos immediately after a
> contest, as well as an expanded narrative for each event. In addition,
> the resolution pointed out, the ARRL now offers members the free
> Contest Rate Sheet newsletter, which focuses specifically on
> contesting."
>
> It troubles me is that there is no indication of any intention to
> improve in-print coverage of contesting topics, paralleling that in
> the discussion on Section News. Perhaps one or more of the directors
> who reads this reflector can explain further.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
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>From k4ja at crosslink.net Tue Jul 23 16:25:50 2002
From: k4ja@crosslink.net (K4JA Paul)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <002901c2325d$3bbec2e0$0601a8c0@gipper>
Hello Barry
My thoughts also, I have been thinking the very same thing all day long as I
read the mail.
73 Paul
> One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> Comments?
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 23 12:35:05 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
References: <9C9D44629453D611874300508B91A4AC116EC4@hubs.us.abatos.com>
Message-ID: <3D3D77A9.FA876B88@gte.net>
Schulz Jonathan wrote:
> My take on the whole thing; if the Web coverage could give us the
> results in a more timely manner and continue to be as good as the
> ones I have seen so far, (SS, ARRL 160) I couldn't care less that
> they are dropping line scores in QST.
Why is everyone missing the point?
Kid Q. Public picks up a QST at the local newsstand and skims through
it. He sees a bunch of "low tech" articles and a lot of nice photos of
people doing stuff with HT's. He thinks "geeks", and puts it back
down. (He wont bother to visit the ARRL Web site - thinking it's more
"geek" stuff.)
On the other hand, he runs across something about a "contest" which
catches his eye - COOL! He buys QST, and reads further, and perhaps
sparks his interest in Amateur Radio and getting involved in
contesting. That "hook" will no longer be there.
If people don't even know something exists, how will they find out about
it?
Ron
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 23 12:36:48 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <3D3D7810.9FBD9754@gte.net>
Barry wrote:
> One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
Or those who want only NCJ, yet remain an ARRL member.
Ron
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Tue Jul 23 12:41:15 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] league bashing//tree hugging//results
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKECJDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
I find it amusing that a computer oriented constituency such
as one finds on this reflector would continue to bash the
league for not printing line scores.
Both publishing economics and timing favor the web site.
We don't seem to be paragons of progressive thinking on this topic.
Dallas Carter said it well:
"I think we kicked all the air out of this ball 6 months ago.
Many of us wrote to our directors to make our cases, and
it was discussed here ad nausium. The action has now been
taken, and reflects the feelings of the directors constituancies.
At this point we should give the web alternative a chance.
So far, I like what I see; and I was an opponent of the
proposal."
You may not like the league, but it represents the singular hope for
continuing life in this hobby in the US. The regulatory agency defers to
ARRL, in pursuit of self-governance in the service. ARRL's role
is growing.
If you find ARRL flawed, YOU are responsible. Become involved.
And stop whining.
N2EA
Jim Jarvis
>From k1mk at arrl.net Tue Jul 23 09:51:48 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Tue, 23 July 2002, "Barry " wrote
> As the League is
> interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> priced membership:
> One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> Comments?
There'd be a price difference because... ?
Michael Keane K1MK
k1mk@arrl.net
________________________________________________
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http://www.peoplepc.com
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Tue Jul 23 12:06:41 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207231104280.25236-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
All the "good stuff" (for the technically-minded) is in QEX these days.
The last issue I got, which had articles on software-defined radio, was
superb.
And then there's NCJ.
QST doesn't appeal to me much anymore, either.
73, Zack W9SZ
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Barry wrote:
> I find it surprising, and disappointing, that two of the directors, K1KI
> and N2FF, both of whom are contesters, voted to remove contest
> results from QST. While they are under no obligation to explain
> themselves, perhaps they would care to, anyway...
> Personally, I find QST of little interest of value. As the League is
> interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> priced membership:
> One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> Comments?
> 73,
> Barry W2UP
>
>From tree at kkn.net Tue Jul 23 10:09:49 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Board votes - get the facts right
Message-ID: <200207231609.g6NG9n208101@loja.kkn.net>
There were two differnet votes. One was about the section news
(which was a roll call vote). For the contest line scores, I
quote the earlier post:
> In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed that the
> ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the results of
> ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will appear in QST. The
> change does not affect ARRL Field Day results, which will continue to be
> published in the magazine.
Therefore it would seem the current analysis of who did and who didn't vote
for the contest removal is rather pointless. You are talking about who
voted for the Section News issue.
Tree N6TR
>From K7LXC at aol.com Tue Jul 23 13:32:02 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
Message-ID: <6F22685B.47139AA9.0000DB5D@aol.com>
In a message dated Mon, 22 Jul 2002 4:54:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ku8e1@yahoo.com writes:
> I really don't think the ARRL has a clue about demographics.
Actually they do. They spend money periodically to have
in-depth subscriber surveys done. I have an older one and it's quite
interesting. I think they got 2500 surveys back or something like that so I'd
say the results are valid.
> Contesting
> and DXing are by far the most popular amateur radio activities and
> these two groups are the ones buying the products that are advertising
> in QST.
You're right on that.
> Does this mean we are now going to see great articles like "
> How to Effectively Ragchew on the 75 Meter Band" in QST ????
>
Well, they'll be happy for you to send them a really neat article on
contesting or DXing - they actually print some but you have to submit
something.
> Maybe someone can clue me in why the ARRL takes the
> attitude that
> contesters/DXer's are the minority ????
Uh...cuz they are?!?
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Tue Jul 23 17:40:45 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <3D3D870D.80E36FD5@directvinternet.com>
Barry wrote:
> I find it surprising, and disappointing, that two of the directors, K1KI
> and N2FF, both of whom are contesters, voted to remove contest
> results from QST. While they are under no obligation to explain
> themselves, perhaps they would care to, anyway...
----------
I agree whole heartily with Barry's comments above, but since "we"
elected them, I belive we are entitled to a complete explanation.
--------------
> Personally, I find QST of little interest of value.
-----
Again, I agree 100%. Unfortunately, I am stuck with a life membership,
which at the price I paid, has been more than a great bargin. But, if
ARRL continues to fill its pages with "junk" devoted to the least
informed of amateurs, I will consider giving up that membership, just
to remove my name from the membership list.
I personally wish there was an alternative organization. I know that's
bound to be a wish, but I sincerely deplore the decline of this hobby
I have loved for 47 years.
I've said it before, but I believe the only way to change it is to
replace the Directors with those more representative of our interests.
73
Ed
>From w2up at mindspring.com Tue Jul 23 13:44:53 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <E17X2n2-0001iD-00@maynard.mail.mindspring.net>
On 23 Jul 02, at 8:51, Michael Keane, K1MK wrote:
> On Tue, 23 July 2002, "Barry " wrote
>
> > As the League is
> > interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> > priced membership: One for those who want QST, and another price for
> > those that don't. Comments?
>
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
>
> Michael Keane K1MK
> k1mk@arrl.net
> ________________________________________________
Part of my membership dues is put towards printing and mailing of
QST, which I would decline to receive, therefore saving that money.
Or, credit me towards NCJ, QEX or another league publication I
may receive...
Barry
--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Tue Jul 23 17:46:46 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHCECHDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <3D3D8876.141F9CE7@directvinternet.com>
jljarvis wrote:
>
> Guys,
snipped
> For those of you who doubt the insect chasing properties of this
> stuff...don't.
> a 50% sol'n w/water works well as a spray. We use it in VT against black
> flies and
> mosquitos, and in the Carribean for mustiques & no see 'ums. Works great.
>
> 73, Jim, n2ea
Don't know if this product contains it, but NBC ( I think ) ran a news
item a week or so ago, and it showed the results of testing. In short,
if the product doesn't contain an ingredient called "beet" (spelling
is probably wrong ), it's worthless as a repellent.
73
Ed
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 23 13:46:46 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <3D3D8876.10544064@gte.net>
"Michael Keane, K1MK" wrote:
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
Because "Fifty percent of dues is allocated to QST, the balance for
membership".
You don't want QST ... you pay half the current dues.
Ron
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 23 10:53:01 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <3D3D7810.9FBD9754@gte.net>
Message-ID: <20020723165301.46537.qmail@web10502.mail.yahoo.com>
It's too bad that contesters didn't support the NCJ in the past and
it had to be saved by the ARRL. We have the technology today that there
is not a need for national organizations like the ARRL or a magazine
like CQ need to sponsor our contests. Most of those who check the logs
and are sponsoring the awards are donating their time to do this
anyway.
NCJ would of been a great forum to report the results along with other
contesting related articles.....
Jeff
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>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Tue Jul 23 12:57:58 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] league bashing//tree hugging//results
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKECJDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>; from
jljarvis on Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 11:41:15AM -0400
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKECJDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <20020723115758.E19827@cs.utexas.edu>
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 11:41:15AM -0400, jljarvis wrote:
>
> If you find ARRL flawed, YOU are responsible. Become involved.
> And stop whining.
Engaging other League members and potential League members in open debate
about League policy IS becoming involved. Just because they don't agree
with you doesn't mean they are whining - they may just be trying to
persuade their fellows.
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From W0uo at cs.com Tue Jul 23 14:16:49 2002
From: W0uo@cs.com (W0uo@cs.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
Message-ID: <1a0.5b110a5.2a6ee981@cs.com>
Jim,
Skin so soft should keep the bugs out of your rig next year!!
Jim
W0UO/5
>From W0uo at cs.com Tue Jul 23 14:17:43 2002
From: W0uo@cs.com (W0uo@cs.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <64.226c649b.2a6ee9b7@cs.com>
Barry,
W0CP and, possibly, others are contesters as well
Jim
W0UO/5
>From jim at forsyth.net Tue Jul 23 11:07:59 2002
From: jim@forsyth.net (Jim Forsyth)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
References: <9C9D44629453D611874300508B91A4AC116EC4@hubs.us.abatos.com>
<3D3D77A9.FA876B88@gte.net>
Message-ID: <019e01c2326d$fe3e1220$81e4fea9@Hailsham>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Wetjen" <wd4ahz@gte.net>
To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
> Why is everyone missing the point?
When it seems like everybody is wrong except you, then you probably have it
backwards.
Jim, AF6O
>From jim at forsyth.net Tue Jul 23 11:12:37 2002
From: jim@forsyth.net (Jim Forsyth)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <019f01c2326d$ff10f280$81e4fea9@Hailsham>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Keane, K1MK" <k1mk@arrl.net>
To: <w2up@mindspring.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
> On Tue, 23 July 2002, "Barry " wrote
>
> > As the League is
> > interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> > priced membership:
> > One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> > Comments?
>
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
Duh!
Jim, AF6O
>From brnsmth at mo-net.com Tue Jul 23 18:35:30 2002
From: brnsmth@mo-net.com (brnsmth@mo-net.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST economics
Message-ID: <200207231734.g6NHYM5r005131@contesting.com>
OK, so I understand that only a small percentage of ham radio operators are
contesters. Fine. Remove the Contest results and put them online. How about
some suggestions for other cuts first? How about cutting VHF coverage down to
one page? Do I need a map every month of where Jim-Bob and Dave from Arkansas
and Oklahoma made contacts on 6 meters? I don't have a problem with VHF, I
operate it myself from time to time, but for goodness sake, be reasonable in
what you cut.
If participation in ARRL contests sees a noticable decline in the future, we
will know why.
On the other hand, if the ARRL is trying to focus on the majority of hams, the
should focus on the no-code techs. I mean, shouldn't they stop running code
practice at W1AW and stop running those complicated projects. Let's focus on
the majority of hams, most of the ARRL membership would like to know how to
become the guru of the repeater world, surely. So wouldn't an article on how
to erect a tower and guy it with dog chains and bailing wire be more suited to
this marketing strategy?
There are more pages in QST dedicated to traffic handling and ARES than
anything else (if you include the section reports of traffic handled.) What
percentage of hams actually handle traffic nowadays?
I say if you are going to appeal to the largest market, you need to discuss
important issues like, how to use 10 codes and how to convert 11 meter
equipment for Ham use, or better how to convert ham equipment to 11 meter use.
Why talk about HF radios at all?
Dayton's Hamvention seems to by going down this road too, so I won't stick it
all on the League. I am sure there are more shack-on-the-belt goons skulking
around Hara per square foot than anywhere in the world, but I think a little
common sense is called for.....
If they won't take the time to upgrade to HF, what makes you think they will
part with $$$ for equipment? The 2meter only crowd usually has everything they
need.
Your money is in the DX and Contesting markets. I hope, someday, they will
realize that the guys who buy are the ones you cater to. Vegas doesn't spend a
lot of money on comps to the ladies pulling the Nickel Slots.
Sorry for the rant,
It's been building up for a while now,
Brian
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>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Tue Jul 23 11:43:20 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] moving onward
Message-ID: <20020723174320.30634.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com>
Greetings!
As W3PP wrote... let's get back to contesting and
topics surrounding that topic. Getting more
people into contesting always reigns high on the
list of items discussed. The ARRL has acted,
reality is what it is. Let us accept it and move
onward.
For myself.. the question NOW is.. HOW do we as
active/interested (dare I say 'addicted')
contest types get the newbies into what we do?
Let me offer a short hand saying 'Each One.. Win
One!'
Every one of us has friends who are hams OR know
about what we do but don't contest or even know
what it really is.
They MAY know about the overview.. They MAY know
you as the guy who spends his weekends behind
the radio chasing contacts.
BUT.. Do they KNOW what it is that you like
about it? Do they KNOW what it is about
contesting
that lights your fuse and makes you expend the
hours/dollars in pursuit of the goals? Do they
KNOW how contesting can benefit THEM in their
amateur radio pursuits - be it emergency
communications, public service, enjoying
ragchewing on the HF bands, chasing DX?
If you visit a Club.. talk about the SIZZLE of
contesting.. not the boring (to others) stuff.
Sell the buzz.. the sizzle.. dangle some bait.
Your passion adn enthusiasm will come out
and you will attract folks.
Take those who rise to the 'bait' and offer to
show them more.. Treat it like big-game fish
fishing. If you have an eyeball wiht someone..
lay some 'bait' out and see if they nibble.
Regardless.. work on getting just one person
interested in coming to see. IF 10% of the
active contesters did this.. we'd have a sizable
increase. Success begets success.
The resources are out there. The Contest groups
are there.
Onward!
73
Chuck K3FT
not to sound to RAH-RAH.. but that's how I got
introduced to contesting. I'm an average type ham
when it comes to things - interested but need
someone to help me see the 'zing' and excite me
to want to come and see. Did it work? Ask W3PP
and WR3L. They both KNOW what the results of THAT
exposure lead to! <grin>
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Jul 23 15:11:21 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] possible error on my part
Message-ID: <02e501c23274$59717c80$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
>From kilo.mike at gte.net Tue Jul 23 19:47:50 2002
From: kilo.mike@gte.net (Kris Mraz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <3D3DA4D6.F009AD@gte.net>
I think Michael was using sarcasm. QST has no value so why would your
membership dues be reduced if you don't receive it? I thought it was
funny, anyway.
Kris N5KM
> From: Ron Wetjen <wd4ahz@gte.net>
> To: "Michael Keane, K1MK" <k1mk@arrl.net>
> CC: w2up@mindspring.com, cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
>
> "Michael Keane, K1MK" wrote:
>
> > There'd be a price difference because... ?
>
> Because "Fifty percent of dues is allocated to QST, the balance for
> membership".
>
> You don't want QST ... you pay half the current dues.
>
> Ron
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Tue Jul 23 14:33:13 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
In-Reply-To: <3D3D8876.141F9CE7@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207231327570.29977-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On the Microchip PIC microcontroller application notes website is an idea
for a novel mosquito repeller. It simply produces a very quiet duplication
of the sound of a dragonfly's wings. The dragonfly is a natural predator
of the mosquito, and the theory is that the mosquitos will actually try to
avoid areas where they hear dragonflies flying.
I built one using a PIC12C508 and a small piezoelectric transducer.
Surprised me - the darned thing actually works!
73, Zack W9SZ
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, K4SB wrote:
> jljarvis wrote:
> >
> > Guys,
> snipped
> > For those of you who doubt the insect chasing properties of this
> > stuff...don't.
> > a 50% sol'n w/water works well as a spray. We use it in VT against black
> > flies and
> > mosquitos, and in the Carribean for mustiques & no see 'ums. Works great.
> >
> > 73, Jim, n2ea
>
> Don't know if this product contains it, but NBC ( I think ) ran a news
> item a week or so ago, and it showed the results of testing. In short,
> if the product doesn't contain an ingredient called "beet" (spelling
> is probably wrong ), it's worthless as a repellent.
>
> 73
> Ed
>From ford at cmgate.com Tue Jul 23 15:14:01 2002
From: ford@cmgate.com (Ford Peterson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <001501c2327d$1b5d5f00$8cee83d1@office>
On Tue, 23 July 2002, "Barry " wrote
>
> > As the League is
> > interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> > priced membership:
> > One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> > Comments?
>
To which Michael replied:
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
>
> Michael Keane K1MK
*****************************************
For those who never had the option of econ 101 in grade school, eliminating
QST from your "membership" would induce an increase in your dues. Why?
Because the more copies of QST that circulate, the greater the ad revenue.
Ever wonder why trade journals are free? For the same reason QST is free.
Yes, folks, it is free. Your QST costs nothing. Zippo. Zilch. We beat
this topic to death 6 months ago. The more copies they print, the more
valuable the ad space. Reduce the # of printed copies, you reduce revenues.
The current circulation numbers appear to make printing QST a freebee.
Reduce the numbers printed, well, it won't break even any more. I know it
may sound strange, but those are the raw facts of economics in the magazine
business.
Ford-N0FP
ford@cmgate.com
>From k0luz at topsusa.com Tue Jul 23 16:24:43 2002
From: k0luz@topsusa.com (K0LUZ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] possible error on my part
In-Reply-To: <02e501c23274$59717c80$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <LOBBKFICDFPNLHBMOBDKKEBIFJAA.k0luz@topsusa.com>
Believe I saw that that issue was decided by a voice vote. Therefore all
can claim they voted for keeping data in QST. Sounds like the votes taken
in Congress when they are raising their salaries.
Red
K0LUZ
-----Original Message-----
>From kc5ykx at swbell.net Tue Jul 23 15:23:55 2002
From: kc5ykx@swbell.net (Reid Hill)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
Message-ID: <0GZP002TBV7VHW@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net>
beet..vegitable
deet..chemical
Reid, KC5YKX
07/23/2002 5:46:46 PM, K4SB <hamcat@directvinternet.com> wrote:
>Don't know if this product contains it, but NBC ( I think ) ran a news
>item a week or so ago, and it showed the results of testing. In short,
>if the product doesn't contain an ingredient called "beet" (spelling
>is probably wrong ), it's worthless as a repellent.
>
>73
>Ed
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>From tree at kkn.net Tue Jul 23 13:28:06 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
Message-ID: <200207231928.g6NJS6311097@loja.kkn.net>
> Kid Q. Public picks up a QST at the local newsstand and skims through
> it. He sees a bunch of "low tech" articles and a lot of nice photos of
> people doing stuff with HT's. He thinks "geeks", and puts it back
> down. (He wont bother to visit the ARRL Web site - thinking it's more
> "geek" stuff.)
Is Kid Q. Public more likely to find a QST at a local newstand - or stumble
upon the ARRL Web Page on the net?
Tree
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 23 13:45:54 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207231945.g6NJjs723411@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary or to correct your post,
please visit: 3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
J75KG 1654 661 192 24 1,776,768 FCG
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
W7GG 362 300 44 9 265,742
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S LP
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 0 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
DH7KU 550 0 66 16 134,640 DK0UN University Rad
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW LP
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
W4BCG 75 0 40 6 9,400 TCG
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC
K6XX 1264 247 179 22 1,030,682 NCCC
UY5ZZ 991 304 123 956,032
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 14 463,606 HSDXA
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 k 118,230
S57UN(@S52ZW) 430 26 27 5 117,432 SCC
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
K1HT 399 123 139 8 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
DF1DX 141 114 92 13 71,300 RR DX
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 22 2,342,130 Other (specify when
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
RN4LP 0 1505 251 24 1,175,433
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
FM5GU 0 1492 99 9 609,246
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 162,047
DL4RCK 0 286 72 8 98,412 BCC
NQ4U 0 235 49 8 81,498 TCG
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
W7GG K7ZUM,KC7TWZ,W7GG
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 23 13:46:32 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207231946.g6NJkWU23420@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary or to correct your post,
please visit: 3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
KB8U 227 99 17 30,888
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
K8CC 130 72 6 12,240 MRRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
K0UK 2 2 27 6 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/2 QRP
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 QRP
N3AWS 5 4 3 20
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 23 13:47:40 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207231947.g6NJlea23429@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary or to correct your post,
please visit: 3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
W6YX 446 156 10 69,576 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
VA3DX 388 147 10 58,200
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 9 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
9A5W(@9A1A) 301 107 9 32,207
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K7ZUM 241 118 7 28,438 WVDXC
N1NB 240 105 7 25,200
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
W4BCG 222 107 9 23,754 TCG
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
W6ZL(BIGWAVE) 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
KD8FS 195 97 5 18,915
LP7H(LU9HS) 227 76 10 17,252
K3FH 176 98 8 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 6 14,964
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
K1XX 161 78 9 12,090
IK0HBN 150 57 9 8,550
WB0O 110 71 2 7,810
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 2 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K9SZ 48 33 1,584
K6OWL 46 34 2 1,564
F6FJE 24 23 5 552
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
W6YX K6ENT,N6DE,W6ZZZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 23 13:48:27 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207231948.g6NJmRr23438@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary or to correct your post,
please visit: 3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Rover LP
N4PN 676 75 400 57 20 20,876
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
N4GG 78 10 64 10 9 12,284 PVRC
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NJ8J 43 7 21 7 3 2,604 SECC
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op QRP
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 1 15 SECC
Operators:
(none)
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Tue Jul 23 15:46:21 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Board votes - get the facts right
References: <200207231609.g6NG9n208101@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <036b01c23281$9f7af280$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>There were two differnet votes. One was about the section news
>(which was a roll call vote). For the contest line scores, I
>quote the earlier post:
>
>>In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed that the
>>ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the results of
>>ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will appear in QST. The
>>change does not affect ARRL Field Day results, which will continue to be
>>published in the magazine.
>
>Therefore it would seem the current analysis of who did and who didn't vote
>for the contest removal is rather pointless. You are talking about who
>voted for the Section News issue.
>
> Tree N6TR
Interesting point ... which raises the question of WHY did they address
the Section News issue in a different manner than the Contest issue?
Other than political "protection" ... as they knew exactly what would
happen if the exact votes were known to the contesting membership?
Here we have our "elected leaders" hiding behind a voice vote so we
can't be for certain who did or did not oppose this. How wonderful ...
I thought "they" were doing this to reduce costs and page counts ... I
saw no mention of that in the official ARRL release. So where's the
$$$$ savings that 6 months ago was driving this 'must happen' issue?
And what's next to be removed?
A sad day for the hobby, the ARRL and for contesting especially ... it
will interesting to see what "they" do next.
73 Billy AA4NU ... one of those disappointed minority contestor types ...
>From tree at kkn.net Tue Jul 23 13:52:09 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Removing Field Day residue from my QST
Message-ID: <200207231952.g6NJq9S11438@loja.kkn.net>
Can I use Skin-So-Soft to remove the contest line scores from my old QSTs?
Tree
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Tue Jul 23 16:57:14 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] possible error on my part
In-Reply-To: <LOBBKFICDFPNLHBMOBDKKEBIFJAA.k0luz@topsusa.com>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDEEGNENAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
I'm surprised that the Section News debacle wasn't by voice vote
as well. The public service folks (traffic handlers, ARES types, etc.)
get precious little recognition as it is, and many were driven by a
desire to see their call in the magazine once a month (BPL, traffic
totals, etc.)
I know that during the 4 years I was Ohio Section Manager, if I missed
including a callsign for someone who reported traffic to me, I heard
about it loud and long.
Of course, traffic handlers are a smaller consituancy than even
contesters, so they can be "dissed" without fear of meaningful
retaliation, despite their direct link to the origins of the ARRL.
I expect that this was the straw that broke the camel's back in
the resignation of the Great Lakes Director, who had a long
history in the Field Organization before joining the Board. he
reportedly didn't even wait until after the halfway point of the
meeting to leave.
Gotta run the League as a business. Can't keep any of those
nostalgic links to the past.
Perhaps they can use the Wouff Hong as firewood this Winter
to conserve fuel and save a buck?
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of K0LUZ
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 15:25
> To: Jim White, K4OJ; fcg@mailman.qth.net; CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] possible error on my part
>
>
>
> Believe I saw that that issue was decided by a voice vote. Therefore all
> can claim they voted for keeping data in QST. Sounds like the votes taken
> in Congress when they are raising their salaries.
>
> Red
> K0LUZ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> From reading the ARRL recount of the Board Meeting it appears the
> statistics
> I cited as far as which Director voted for QST coverage are not may be in
> error.
>
> I believe the information I was given actually is the vote on Section News
> being discontinued...does anyone know what the head count/who
> voted what way
> was for the removal of contest results from our National Journal?
>
> K4OJ
>
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Tue Jul 23 17:04:40 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST and Contest Coverage
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723155910.024b8d90@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Everyone seems to have missed an important point in my post this morning,
so I'll repeat it here:
"It troubles me is that there is no indication of any intention to improve
in-print coverage of contesting topics, paralleling that in the discussion
on Section News. Perhaps one or more of the directors who reads this
reflector can explain further."
Unless and until I know what the Board's intentions in this regard are, I'm
not condemning anybody. It DOES concern me, though, that nothing was said,
because I know these news releases are carefully written. If no line
scores means no improvement/expansion in other contest coverage in QST,
then I would be upset.
As far as line scores are concerned, I'm willing to see them go on line,
particularly with the improvements that have been made. It seems to me
that the contester community is overwhelmingly more on-line than the total
ARRL member population, and that those young newbies we talk about
attracting are also likely to be able to access things on the web.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Tue Jul 23 16:11:31 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
References: <200207231928.g6NJS6311097@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <03a201c23285$23be2be0$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>Is Kid Q. Public more likely to find a QST at a local newstand - or stumble
>upon the ARRL Web Page on the net?
So why not have the option of BOTH?
You want to eliminate something that does not fit your agenda, then don't
support it, or LIMIT the public support of it ... and hope it will just go
away.
You want to grow a market, find new participants, then you EXPAND
your influence. You do not overlook any potential points of contact. You
constantly look for new opportunities to advance your cause ...
So which of the above describes the ARRL strategy for ... contesting?
We saw the handwriting on the wall 6 months ago, and we realized that
there was nothing that could be done to change it. The fuss then was
that "they" were going to do it without membership comment. And what
difference did all of our posts make? Nothing. Now it is a done deal ...
The potential of the website format is unknown, and what if another
"voice vote" is taken that says due to cost considerations it goes away?
What is certain is the loss of a known point of contact and positive
encouragement within the printed material to give new exposure of
contesting to future participants.
73 Billy AA4NU
>From w1wef at c4.net Tue Jul 23 17:52:08 2002
From: w1wef@c4.net (Jack Schuster)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST contest content
Message-ID: <3D3DC1F8.9426FD1C@c4.net>
I too like what I see on the web ...far more room there and more data
than we've ever seen in print anywhere. I still expect to see writeups
after each contest in QST...only the scores outside of the box scores
will move to the web.
Submit a general interest article on contesting for QST and see what
happens!
73 JACK W1WEF
>From w1wef at c4.net Tue Jul 23 18:17:06 2002
From: w1wef@c4.net (Jack Schuster)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re QST contest results
Message-ID: <3D3DC7D2.7BB26650@c4.net>
Ed...if you want to transfer your life membership to me for what you
paid for it, I'd be interested and I'm almost 65!
Too much is being made of this. The web reports are more thorough than
anything ANY magazine ever published. There WILL still be writeups on
contesting in QST. We get more than a magazine for our dues.I believe
there are something like 175,000 League members, and we are happy to see
3500 or so contest log submissions for a contest.
Way back when, I handled traffic and read the section reports. Who
knows...there might be more people reading them than contest results!
Let's lighten up on the Director bashing over this. They don't get paid
all that much. :>) JACK W1WEF
>From ford at cmgate.com Tue Jul 23 17:20:04 2002
From: ford@cmgate.com (Ford Peterson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Bashing
Message-ID: <001c01c2328e$bcdf70a0$a6ee83d1@office>
Have you ever been working a contest an run into somebody demanding that you
to crawl back under your rock? I have heard it. So have you...
There is a huge contingent of hams, our director's constituents too, that
hate contesters. They wouldn't stop on a road side for an opportunity to p_
e in your face if they saw you burning. They hate you. And I mean hate.
Why? The perception of bandwidth wasting I suspect. Possibly
inconvenience. Who knows. The point is they are vocal and perhaps the ARRL
is listening to that group at the same time they listen to this group --
(net = zero.)
The question is, how much of this is really economics and how much of it is
political? It would be impossible, politically speaking, to publicly
support the contest haters. We're too big a group. Likewise, it must be
coming increasingly difficult to support contesters -- because the contest
haters are growing in number. What better solution than to blame the
economics of the few pages in QST?
Any comments?
Ford-N0FP
ford@cmgate.com
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Tue Jul 23 18:53:54 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Cleanup--final.
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKEDADKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
I received multiple comments from folks who do not believe
that skin-so-soft repels mosquitos. As far as I am concerned,
it's an essential requirement of a dxpedition kit.
In 50% solution with water, this stuff IS effective. We have
used it sailing in the Caribean, for both mosquitos and no see 'ums.
We use it every day, here in Vermont, against both mosquitos and
black flies.
On days when I'm working on landscaping or antennas, I literally
shower in the stuff, at the end of my morning shower. Mosquitos land...
but get up and go away. Black flies don't even land.
And unlike OFF and Cutter, it doesn't contain insecticides which
can be absorbed into your skin. Both of those are NOT supposed
to be sprayed on skin.
Because this is of marginal relevance, it's my last word on the subject.
Don't believe me; try it yourself. Or don't.
Incidentally, it removes pine tar from clothes and hair, and, if you've
followed this thread, the residue of OFF from my laptop and 756PRO,
without damage.
Live long and prosper.
N2EA
>From k4ww at arrl.net Tue Jul 23 18:57:19 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <003501c23293$eaebd2e0$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
"Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com wrote: "Personally, I find QST of little
interest of value. As the League is interested in cost cutting, perhaps they
should consider a dual-priced membership"
As a Life Member, I will trade my subscription to QST for a lifetime
subscription to NCJ!
C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
>From windev at inetmarket.com Tue Jul 23 19:15:21 2002
From: windev@inetmarket.com (Gerry Hull)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
Message-ID: <20020723181319.5B76.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
any complaints about that?
73,
Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
>From kc5ykx at swbell.net Tue Jul 23 18:06:26 2002
From: kc5ykx@swbell.net (Reid Hill)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Removing Field Day residue from my QST
Message-ID: <0GZQ002YS2QQHO@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net>
Lighter fluid and a match.
07/23/2002 6:52:09 AM, Tree <tree@kkn.net> wrote:
>Can I use Skin-So-Soft to remove the contest line scores from my old QSTs?
>
>Tree
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>From memberlist at www.arrl.org Tue Jul 23 19:08:22 2002
From: memberlist@www.arrl.org (ARRL Web site)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARLB046 "Section News," Line Scores Moving from QST to Web
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020723180806.00b62448@mail.attbi.com>
ZCZC AG46
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 46 ARLB046
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT July 23, 2002
To all radio amateurs
SB QST ARL ARLB046
ARLB046 "Section News," Line Scores Moving from QST to Web
Starting next January, "Section News" and contest line score results
will appear on the ARRL Web site rather than in QST. Meeting July
19-20 in Windsor, Connecticut, the ARRL Board of Directors voted 9-6
to approve a resolution formally relocating "Section News" to the
ARRL Web site. "Section News" has appeared in the League's official
journal at least since 1919. The "Section News" Web sites--already
in place--will provide the officials of each ARRL section "the
capability of an up-to-date information resource that can be
tailored to the needs of their section," the resolution said.
The space freed up by relocating "Section News" will allow more
in-depth coverage of general news, public service activities and
"how-to" articles aimed at involving more amateurs in emergency
preparedness. Members unable to use the Web can request their
section's reports in hard-copy format.
The Board resolution noted that the past six months had given
members the opportunity to understand the reasons for relocating
"Section News," to discuss alternatives and to better understand
and see the advantages of the expanded content available on the Web
site.
Voting for the change were Directors Dick Isely, W9GIG (Central);
Jay Bellows, K0QB (Dakota); Frank Fallon, N2FF (Hudson); Wade
Walstrom, W0EJ (Midwest); Tom Frenaye, K1KI (New England); Dennis
Bodson, W4PWF (Roanoke); Walt Stinson, W0CP (Rocky Mountain); Art
Goddard, W6XD (Southwestern); and Coy Day, N5OK (West Gulf).
Directors Bernie Fuller, N3EFN (Atlantic); Rick Roderick, K5UR
(Delta); George Race, WB8BGY (Great Lakes); Greg Milnes, W7OZ
(Northwestern); Jim Maxwell, W6CF (Pacific); and Frank Butler, W4RH
(Southeastern), voted against the change.
In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed
that the ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the
results of ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will
appear in QST. The change does not affect ARRL Field Day results,
which will continue to be published in the magazine.
A Web site established earlier this year now includes, among other
features, a searchable database of contest line scores for members
and the ability to easily analyze individual and club scores.
There's also an on-line Soapbox to post comments and photos
immediately after a contest, as well as an expanded narrative for
each event. The ARRL also now offers members the free Contest Rate
Sheet newsletter, which focuses specifically on contesting.
NNNN
/EX
>From kcechura at umr.edu Tue Jul 23 18:33:16 2002
From: kcechura@umr.edu (Ken Cechura)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20020723173152.019fb268@pop3.umr.edu>
I see results posted up here all the time... think it's possible to post
somethign on UPCOMING contests (maybe just what it is, when it is, and
maybe the general theme...)?
just a dumb question.....
thanks
Ken
||==============================||
// Kenneth R. Cechura, KC9UMR \\
// kcechura@umr.edu \\
\\ Station Trustee, KF9ART //
\\ Freq Amateur Radio Team //
||==============================||
>From jfunk at adams.net Tue Jul 23 18:17:41 2002
From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] bringing up newbies
Message-ID: <000101c2329a$bb836ca0$04288ad8@adams.net>
In regards to the QST contesting coverage, the following are my opinions,
free and worth every penny:
1) The change to web coverage from print coverage for line scores is
happening. We'll see how it works.
2) ARRL is more than QST. I'm a life member (recently). I'm not gonna ask
for my money back.
3) Contesting will be saved by the contest community, not by magazine
coverage.
a) The "each one bring one" approach is superb.
b) Start young. Look at BARC's "Kids Day". Not a contest. Read the
comments from those who submit logs. "When can we do this again?" "Do we
have to wait a whole six months?" These are the *kids'* comments, not the
old gray guys that were the control ops.
c) Give a program. Not many clubs will refuse a program on contesting
at a monthly meeting. Most program chairmen are desperate for something to
fill a slot. There are probably dozens of members of the contesting
community who have material they'd love to share, complete with slides,
tapes, Power Points, you-name-it.
d) Be a mentor at Field Day. Forego your normal operating time (if
necessary) to sit by a newcomer and coach him/her through some contacts on
SSB or CW.
e) Teach a class. Most of the members of our local club who are active
contesters came up through our club-sponsored licensing classes; and yes,
many started as no-codes.
f) Join a contesting club. If you're a member of SMC, I don't have to
explain this. If you're not, check the number of SMC entries in the last
two Sweepstakes....
g) Host a multi-op. NG9R and I invited KC0MYA (licensed two
months....no-code) here for ARRL VHF in June. He operated several hours and
had a ball...and conditions were lousy. We told him HF was even more fun.
"Wow, I've gotta start studying my code!" He has. Should be a General in a
couple of weeks. AB9DU was licensed a year ago in April. We got him on the
air for Field Day two months later. Not a contest. See how many contacts
you can make. Can you get through the pileup on that KL7? Wanna try CQing?
I'll log for you. Whaddaya think of this logging program? Pretty neat, eh?
Not a contest. Uh-huh.... He's Extra Class, DXCC in one year, goes nuts in
contests, Lighthouse Days, etc.
Sorry I've gotten carried away here. But we can do this....
73, Jim N9JF
>From k1my at msn.com Tue Jul 23 16:59:43 2002
From: k1my@msn.com (Bruce Makas)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] line scores
Message-ID: <032401c2329c$a2fa6100$0101a8c0@pavilion>
In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed
that the ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the
results of ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will
appear in QST. The change does not affect ARRL Field Day results,
which will continue to be published in the magazine.
************************
And of course, since there was a "voice vote" those in favor and those
against will be kept a secret from the membership. Why the secrecy on this
emotional issue? Afraid of reprisals?
Bruce
>From k5zd at charter.net Wed Jul 24 00:20:48 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
In-Reply-To: <3D3D77A9.FA876B88@gte.net>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDCECIDLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Or...
John Q. Public picks up a QST at the local newsstand and skims through it.
He sees a bunch of pages of call signs and numbers. He thinks "boring", and
puts it back down. Jane Q. Ham pretty much does the same thing when QST
arrives in the mail.
Let's face it. If your call isn't included, line scores are pretty boring.
Writeups that just say callsign 1 beat callsign 2 are also pretty dry and
boring. I actually find myself reading through NCJ thinking there are too
many contest scores in there!
For me, the most entertaining part of QST these days is the section up front
with the photos of people doing interesting stuff. The ARRL has been active
in recruiting people to take on the job of contest write-ups. If you have a
talent for generating excitement through the written word, contact N1ND and
volunteer to help! If you aren't a writer, submit some pictures and fun
anecdotes about what happened in the contest to N1ND or the appointed
contest reporter.
QST is full color throughout. No reason we can't put some of that to use in
promoting the fun, thrill, and competition of radio sport.
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ron Wetjen
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 15:35 PM
> To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
>
>
> Schulz Jonathan wrote:
>
> > My take on the whole thing; if the Web coverage could give us the
> > results in a more timely manner and continue to be as good as the
> > ones I have seen so far, (SS, ARRL 160) I couldn't care less that
> > they are dropping line scores in QST.
>
> Why is everyone missing the point?
>
> Kid Q. Public picks up a QST at the local newsstand and skims through
> it. He sees a bunch of "low tech" articles and a lot of nice photos of
> people doing stuff with HT's. He thinks "geeks", and puts it back
> down. (He wont bother to visit the ARRL Web site - thinking it's more
> "geek" stuff.)
>
> On the other hand, he runs across something about a "contest" which
> catches his eye - COOL! He buys QST, and reads further, and perhaps
> sparks his interest in Amateur Radio and getting involved in
> contesting. That "hook" will no longer be there.
>
> If people don't even know something exists, how will they find out about
> it?
>
> Ron
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>From w7why at harborside.com Wed Jul 24 01:48:33 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723084201.0248a960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <3D3DEB51.AF3EB6AF@harborside.com>
Pete Smith wrote:
>Starting next January, "Section News" and
> contest line score results will appear on the ARRL Web site >rather than in
> QST.
Probably in the "members only" section, I suppose.
Tom W7WHY
>From w7why at harborside.com Wed Jul 24 01:58:36 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <3D3DEDAC.5B75C2FB@harborside.com>
"Michael Keane, K1MK" wrote:
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
Because not everyone is interested in being a member of the ARRL,
but they might want to read the mag (for what reason excapes me).
Tom W7WHY
>From w7why at harborside.com Wed Jul 24 02:10:59 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] league bashing//tree hugging//results
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKECJDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <3D3DF093.46179D29@harborside.com>
jljarvis wrote:
> If you find ARRL flawed, YOU are responsible. Become involved.
> And stop whining.
>
I'm responsible? How do you figure that? Involved with what? I
didn't push for codeless licenses or dumbing down the tests. I
was a VE for years but quit because nobody wants to learn code
any more. I belonged to RACES, but nobody could agree where the
station should be or who should be the "boss." Got sick of that!
Went to field day last year and they had a TS-520 on the table
that nobody knew how to tune up (including some general class
operators).
Why doesn't the ARRL just publish the whole magazine on the web?
Oh yeah, they wouldn't get any ad money. As long as they can
keep a token of a magazine going, they can still put ad's in it.
Till the radio companies get tired supporting a magazine that
more and more people don't want to read anyway. Then what?
Tom W7WHY
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Tue Jul 23 21:30:16 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST and Contest Coverage
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723155910.024b8d90@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <063301c232b1$b18cf380$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>Unless and until I know what the Board's intentions in this regard are, I'm
>not condemning anybody. It DOES concern me, though, that nothing was said,
>because I know these news releases are carefully written. If no line
>scores means no improvement/expansion in other contest coverage in QST,
>then I would be upset.
Pete,
If I were planning the strategy of this series of miss-steps, I'd do
exactly what has been done. Do what you need to do, but allow for
a rather vague and at the time of decision, "unknown" response.
There's tremendous power in such a strategy view. They can take
a wait and see response, weather out the initial unloading of emotion,
and then do the very minimum amount of damage control needed.
That's the day to day Corporate 101 strategy and control process.
We've got some "good contest folks" inside the ARRL ... that are now
caught in the middle of this silent zone. Let's keep that in mind. Those
are the ones who will be given the challenge to put a positive spin on
what just occurred. If they don't ... then look for more departures from
members, directors, and paid staff there.
What's next ... no more support for CW? Wider phone bands then?
73 Billy AA4NU (who is still wondering ... where are the cost savings?)
>From k4vud at hotmail.com Wed Jul 24 02:53:50 2002
From: k4vud@hotmail.com (Charles Harpole)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Cabrillio format reporting problems
Message-ID: <LAW2-F100wXCPa8lMES00011033@hotmail.com>
Call me a "giver upper" or whatever, but I give up on reporting my contest
logs in Cabrillio format. I purchased AGAIN a new version of CT and have
tried to generate the proper log format acceptable to CQ and ARRL. I have
never gotten it right. I have listened to and read advice from well-meaning
helpers. I have still not gotten it right. I have had generous HQ guys
convert my logs for me. But, I did not get it right by muself.
At this point in my ham career/interest, I just do not have the gumption or
whatever it takes to mess with it. Call me old fashioned, but I just like
to print out the log on real paper and mail that in along with my REAL PAPER
signed cover form.
Since that is no longer acceptable, for the time being, I will simply love
to run contests and keep my logs home in my dadburned balky computer. I
will try to find the score lists, where ever the sponsors POST them, and
imaginatively insert my score and enjoy my placement as good as it may be.
My effort would not be printed in the magazines anymore anyway. Sorry FCG,
my dab of numbers will not join yours, as much as my wishing could make it
so. 73,
Charles Harpole
k4vud@hotmail.com
_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
>From ford at cmgate.com Tue Jul 23 21:57:15 2002
From: ford@cmgate.com (Ford Peterson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Bashing
References: <001c01c2328e$bcdf70a0$a6ee83d1@office>
Message-ID: <007401c232b5$70416b00$0300a8c0@Lab>
The question is, how much of this QST stuff is really economics and how
much of it is
political? It would be impossible, politically speaking, to publicly
support the contest haters. We're too big a group. Likewise, it must be
coming increasingly difficult to support contesters -- because the contest
haters are growing in number. What better solution than to blame the
economics of the few pages in QST?
Any comments?
Ford-N0FP
ford@cmgate.com
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From k7qq at netzero.net Wed Jul 24 04:49:05 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] K3EST E-Mail Address??
Message-ID: <00f701c232c5$45269de0$79f93442@k7qq>
Here is the one I have
K3EST@cqww.com
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary K9GS" <GaryK9GS@wi.rr.com>
To: "CQ Contest Mail Reflector" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:46
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K3EST E-Mail Address??
> Does anyone have K3EST's correct e-mail address??
>
> Both the mailto on the CQ Magazine web page and the K3EST@mother.com
bounce.
>
>
> 73,
> Gary
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> K9GS
> Gary Schwartz email: k9gs@arrl.net
> Check out K9NS on the web http://www.qsl.net/k9ns/
> Society of Midwest Contesters (SMC) GMDXA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
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>From wc4h at itis.net Wed Jul 24 00:37:27 2002
From: wc4h@itis.net (Carl - WC4H)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [FCG] Cabrillio format reporting problems
References: <LAW2-F100wXCPa8lMES00011033@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c232c3$703b4820$5000a8c0@winxp>
Hmmm. I created mine no problem. There's nothing special to do.
Just use the "writelog" command from the program. Then go to the directory
where you log is at and you'll see a file k4vud.log.
Email it to the contest sponsor. You're done!
Caveats:
1. You filled out the program info on the first screen of CT.
2. You entered whatever the contest sponsor says to enter in your subject
line.
Carl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Harpole" <k4vud@hotmail.com>
To: <fcg@mailman.qth.net>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:53 PM
Subject: [FCG] Cabrillio format reporting problems
> Call me a "giver upper" or whatever, but I give up on reporting my contest
> logs in Cabrillio format. I purchased AGAIN a new version of CT and have
> tried to generate the proper log format acceptable to CQ and ARRL. I have
> never gotten it right. I have listened to and read advice from
well-meaning
> helpers. I have still not gotten it right. I have had generous HQ guys
> convert my logs for me. But, I did not get it right by muself.
> At this point in my ham career/interest, I just do not have the gumption
or
> whatever it takes to mess with it. Call me old fashioned, but I just like
> to print out the log on real paper and mail that in along with my REAL
PAPER
> signed cover form.
> Since that is no longer acceptable, for the time being, I will simply love
> to run contests and keep my logs home in my dadburned balky computer. I
> will try to find the score lists, where ever the sponsors POST them, and
> imaginatively insert my score and enjoy my placement as good as it may be.
> My effort would not be printed in the magazines anymore anyway. Sorry
FCG,
> my dab of numbers will not join yours, as much as my wishing could make it
> so. 73,
>
> Charles Harpole
> k4vud@hotmail.com
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> The Florida Contest Group: http://www.qsl.net/fcg/ or
http://www.fcg.club
> Post your scores: http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
> FCG QSL Cards: http://www.qth.com/star/FCG
> FCG Cluster Information: http://www.qsl.net/fcg/cluster.html
> FCG Shirts & Hats: http://www.qsl.net/fcg/cart.html
> FCG@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/fcg
>
>From k3ft at erols.com Wed Jul 24 00:22:12 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] vote on removing contest items from QST
References: <3D3DF96C.46A2@erols.com> <3D3DFA0D.2993@erols.com>
<3D3E14D7.358A@erols.com> <3D3E2336.77FE@erols.com> <3D3E241F.508E@erols.com>
Message-ID: <3D3E2B74.5363@erols.com>
Hi!
Since my concerns about why votes were taken in one area yet not in another
along with
other questions were elevated, I decided to ask EACH director who was there for
some
solid, honest answers. Here is what I asked each and every one. I thought many
of you
have the same questions. Perhaps I will receive responses and that will provide
us all
some accurate 'from the horse's mouths' answers to the questions we all have.
All I want is honest truthful answers. I may not agree with the decision, but I
can
handle the truth. I may be out of bounds asking the questions, but as a member
of the
group I believe we have the duty to inquire so as to be informed as to what our
elected
representatives are up to. Keep everything straight and on the up and up.
I'll let you all know what I get back. I figure posting it here will give
everyone the
'straight scoop' that I get and help eliminate the 'I heard..' 'He said..' 'I
think I
read...' syndrome we are all aware of. I will provide complete sourcing so you
will be
able to track it for yourself.
73
CHuck K3FT
==================================
Hello,
As a paid-up, currently enrolled, ARRL member I need to ask a question. I would
appreciate an honest answer. I ask in seriousness, nnot seeking to bash or cast
aspersions or dissension. I really want to know as a member of the ARRL.
I noted that the vote was recorded for the removal of section news but only a
VOICE VOTE
(no record of vote) was taken on the issue of removing contest items from QST
and
placing them on the web.
#1 Question - How did you vote on the removal of contest items from QST?
#2 Question - Why was there a recorded roll call vote for Section news removal
and NOT
for contest items removal? Why was one considered 'less necessary to record the
vote' than the other since both involved 'niche' components of the total ARRL
membership and QST page allocation? (The cynical ones scream 'Political cover!'
but I am
inclined to wait for the answer from those who were there before I draw any
conclusions.)
#3 Question - Who voted YEA (FOR removal) and NAY (AGAINST removal) of contest
items
from QST?
#4 Question - Has the 3 proposal item produced by Ward Silver N0AX ( at the
request of
the ARRL when the issue of removing QST coverage of contest items came up) been
recieved, read, and has any comments been made as to the proposal's validity and
possible adoption by ARRL?
Again, I am seeking honest answers to some very tough questions. Many of the
ARRL
members who have spoken publicly (and privately) have commented on the fact
that the
more publicized issue (contest items) was unrecorded while the less
controverisal item
(section news) WAS recorded. To them.. it contains a ratehr intense aroma of
rather
rancid fish and gives grave concern as to the relevance of ARRL to many of them.
Personally.. I am in favor of ARRL, it's all we have and it is needed.. BUT I
am not a
rose colored glasses guy who says 'My League.. regardless of whatever happens!'
I
support the ARRL but I MUST question those in charge responsible for handling
things for
me to be open, upfront and above board... even if it risks 'insulting the
higher ups'.
It keeps the membership honest and keeps the lines of communications open both
ways.
I have no perception that you would be anything else than responsible, ethical,
and
open, and would appreciate aanswers to my questions.
If the ARRL mgmt has said you cannot comment or otherwise.. that's fine. If
it's the
truth.. then it's the truth and I can and do respect that. However, I would
like to
know the reality and the truth.
Thanks for reading. I look forward to hearing from you .
vy 73
Chuck K3FT
>From swca at swbell.net Wed Jul 24 05:45:14 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <20020723165301.46537.qmail@web10502.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <014501c232f6$d0ea6100$0100a8c0@TL01>
>It's too bad that contesters didn't support the NCJ in
>the past and it had to be saved by the ARRL.
Spilled milk. Yes, it is too bad.
I would also have preferred the NCJ to have remained unaffiliated with the
ARRL (I published it in the 70s). I was concerned we would lose a valuable
non-ARRL-centered forum.
But now, thanks to the efforts of the web-pioneers among us (Trey and Bill
come to mind, and we all know there are a bunch of others), we have got a
non-ARRL-centered forum now which is much more powerful than any print
periodical ever was or ever will be.
I don't think this "QST pages" thing is a big deal, and more power to the
ARRL for exercising responsible cost management. Every time I read about
how the ARRL responded to an FCC proposal, which is frequent and
comprehensive, THAT is when I say "my ARRL dollars at work."
Any more, I could take or leave QST, but that is of relatively little
importance to me. I trust the new marketing and development people to use
QST however they have to, to best ensure the future of ham radio.
"The future is the WEB, man."
Mark, N5OT
>From jim at forsyth.net Wed Jul 24 05:21:12 2002
From: jim@forsyth.net (Jim Forsyth)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Vote
Message-ID: <005a01c23304$3aa36df0$81e4fea9@Hailsham>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Art Goddard" <w6xd@attbi.com>
To: "Jim Forsyth" <jim@forsyth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: Vote
> Jim-
>
> Thanks for your interest in ARRL Board activities!
>
> I support the Board's decision to complete the relocation of ARRL contest
> line scores to the ARRL web.
>
> 73, Art W6XD
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Wed Jul 24 10:04:42 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <20020723181319.5B76.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDEEHJENAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Gerry Hull
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 18:15
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
>
>
> Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
> results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
> any complaints about that?
>
> 73,
>
> Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
Perhaps because CQ is not the membership journal of our
organization, but simply a business.
CQ is not answerable to any of us, but ARRL should be.
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Wed Jul 24 10:11:37 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] sure...
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHIEDFDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Sure....
but you'll smell like a wuss!
Jim, N2EA
From: Tree <tree@kkn.net>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Removing Field Day residue from my QST
Can I use Skin-So-Soft to remove the contest line scores from my old QSTs?
Tree
-0-
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Wed Jul 24 10:28:11 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest & QST bashing, redux
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHIEDGDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
From: "Ford Peterson" <ford@cmgate.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Bashing
Have you ever been working a contest an run into somebody demanding that you
to crawl back under your rock? I have heard it. So have you...
There is a huge contingent of hams, our director's constituents too, that
hate contesters. They wouldn't stop on a road side for an opportunity to p_
e in your face if they saw you burning. They hate you. And I mean hate.
Why? ... Who knows. The point is they are vocal and perhaps the ARRL
is listening to that group at the same time they listen to this group --
(net = zero.)
The question is, how much of this is really economics and how much of it is
political? It would be impossible, politically speaking, to publicly
support the contest haters. We're too big a group. Likewise, it must be
coming increasingly difficult to support contesters -- because the contest
haters are growing in number. What better solution than to blame the
economics of the few pages in QST? Any comments?
-0-
Yes. My monitoring during the week, at odd hours, suggests that the bands
are increasingly UNoccupied. It is true that contests produce bedlam
and disorder, and contention for frequencies, and I'm sure they seriously
anger people in various constituencies.
It has been variously observed that contesters are a)opinion leaders,
b)majority
constituents of ARRL, c)majority of licensees, and d) better trained
communicators,
e) with better equipped stations. And they smell good, too, I suppose.
Without
data to prove any of that, all arguments are only words in a sea of words.
Is there survey information available from CQ, QST, Contesting.com, and other
sites
which, when assembled, might allow us to make some defensible general
assertions
about the 'sport' and the dimensions of its community? Does this suggest a
project for someone?
For the record, I favor the online reporting of timely results, the
conservation of
trees, and printing more interesting stories about contests, rather than line
scores, which generate about as much enthusiasm as pickled beets.
Rather than bashing the ARRL directors for leading....let's encourage them
to CONTINUE to lead, by expanding the editorial content.
N2EA
>From n2mg at eham.net Wed Jul 24 11:44:54 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
Message-ID: <200207241344.g6ODir5r023224@contesting.com>
You can get upcoming contest info from several online sources already,
so there's really no need (and probably a bad idea) to repost the info
here.
Some online calendars:
http://www.sk3bg.se/contest/
http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/weeklycont.html
http://www.contesting.com
http://www.arrl.org/contests/calendar.html
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/awards.html
If you like email reminders, try the contest Rate Sheet that the ARRL
and NØAX puts out
http://www.arrl.org/contests/rate-sheet/about.html
73 Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by Ken Cechura <kcechura@umr.edu> on Tue, 23 Jul
2002 17:33:16 -0700.
> I see results posted up here all the time... think it's
> possible to post somethign on UPCOMING contests (maybe just
> what it is, when it is, and maybe the general theme...)?
>From n2mg at eham.net Wed Jul 24 11:53:42 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <200207241353.g6ODrg5r023359@contesting.com>
Tom Osborne wrote:
>
> Pete Smith wrote:
>
> > Starting next January, "Section News" and contest line score
> > results will appear on the ARRL Web site >rather than in QST.
>
> Probably in the "members only" section, I suppose.
ARRL has been publishing contest results in Members Only for the first
month or so, but then moving them to the open section. So non-members
have been able to get a free ride (if one were willing to wait a
month) - no need to join or to even buy QST to see the results. I
suspect this procedure will continue.
Mike N2MG
>From k2av at contesting.com Wed Jul 24 10:57:14 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020723173152.019fb268@pop3.umr.edu>
Message-ID: <004901c2331a$04214250$0500a8c0@swift>
Do a Google search on "ham radio contest calendar" and pick the one
you like the best. Keep a "bookmark" or "favorites" entry (or whatever
your browser calls it). They have the rules for everything and all
that goes on in any given week. That makes it just a click away.
Would be a waste of bandwidth to be constantly shoving it into
people's email boxes.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Cechura" <kcechura@umr.edu>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:33 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
> I see results posted up here all the time... think it's possible to
post
> somethign on UPCOMING contests (maybe just what it is, when it is,
and
> maybe the general theme...)?
>
> just a dumb question.....
>
> thanks
> Ken
>
> ||==============================||
> // Kenneth R. Cechura, KC9UMR \\
> // kcechura@umr.edu \\
> \\ Station Trustee, KF9ART //
> \\ Freq Amateur Radio Team //
> ||==============================||
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Wed Jul 24 10:07:36 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020723173152.019fb268@pop3.umr.edu>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJMEGJEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Ken,
The info is available 24/7 online:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/calendar.html?year=2002
http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/weeklycont.html
http://www.sk3bg.se/contest/
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/awards.html
http://www.ncjweb.com/contests.php
There's also the e-mailed ARRL Contester's Rate Sheet newsletter, edited by
Ward Silver/N0AX, containing close-in log due dates, upcoming contests and
articles about contests and contesters. See
http://www.arrl.org/contests/rate-sheet/
The Contester's Rate Sheet lists the top 3 URL's above as sources for its
calendar listing of upcoming contests (with descriptions, URL's, etc.).
73,
dale, kg5u
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ken Cechura
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 19:33
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
>
>
> I see results posted up here all the time... think it's possible to post
> somethign on UPCOMING contests (maybe just what it is, when it is, and
> maybe the general theme...)?
>
> just a dumb question.....
>
> thanks
> Ken
>
> ||==============================||
> // Kenneth R. Cechura, KC9UMR \\
> // kcechura@umr.edu \\
> \\ Station Trustee, KF9ART //
> \\ Freq Amateur Radio Team //
> ||==============================||
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From Jimk8mr at aol.com Wed Jul 24 11:19:08 2002
From: Jimk8mr@aol.com (Jimk8mr@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] One Month and Counting
Message-ID: <119.14dca54c.2a70115c@aol.com>
Summer as always seems to go too quickly. In fact, so quickly it is now only
one month to the 2002 Ohio QSO Party, on Saturday, August 24.
What to do about it?
1. Mark you calendar so you don't get stuck having to visit your wife's
relatives that day. Or make plans to visit those relatives in Ohio.
2. If you use WriteLog, get the new module for the OQP. This was written by
Steve, N9OH, and is available at
<A
HREF="http://www.xnet.com/~sjwoodr/ham/modules";>http://www.xnet.com/~sjwoodr/ham/modules</A>
3. If you don't have software that supports OQP, get the free demo version
of NA which does. This can be downloaded at the OQP web site,
www.mrrc.net/oqp
4. For the latest info on who's going to be active, what mobiles are going
where, etc., subscribe to the OQP reflector. This can be done at the OQP web
site, or by sending a blank email message to
oqp-subscribe@mrrc.net
You'll get the usual confirmation message to which you just need to hit reply
and send.
5. Be ready to have fun working all us OH stations, including one of the
best groups of mobiles of all the state QSO parties.
See you in the Ohio QSO Party, Saturday, August 24. For people in Florida,
that's 31 days away!
Jim K8MR
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>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Wed Jul 24 09:08:53 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Answers to questions I asked.
Message-ID: <20020724150853.80770.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com>
Greetings.
I recieved a multitude of replies from over 50%
of the Directors in response to my request for
answers to my questions. Many were long,
detailed, and contained a lot of information on
how the process worked, how it was handled, the
procedures/protocols involved and much
information which fleshed out the issue for me.
here is a summary of what I received. Although
not all have replied as of this time (and I agree
the time has been short). I believe what I DID
recieve is representative of what the others will
present me due to the consistency of response in
that each person's perspective and information
had the same basic foundation and configuration.
I SENSE NO colusion in responses because it would
be damn difficult to get all those folks to agree
to lie, prevaricate, or shade the truth in this
matter.
Therefore, I accept what they provided as true,
accurate, and straight shooting. That is what I
expected and I was not dissapointed.Therefore, I
believe I can draw some conclusions which I
present for your consideration.
First and foremost.. EACH respondent who answered
me was exceedinly polite, open and honest with
answers, information, and 'extra info' to flesh
out the skeleton of information that I available
to me. Several (including my own Director, N3EFN,
took me on a 'handholding tour' of theprocess and
explained nooks, crannies, and the eddy currents
involved. He didn't have to do that... but he
did. THis further amplified my belief that all
were shooting straight and I could rely on what
they were telling me.
Each one, who responded with information, took
the time to explain their position and provide
some thinking as to what was going on.
Therefore, I wish to thank them all PUBLICLY for
the responses and I find myself reinforced that
things were done above board and without any
shenanigans.
OK.. Here's what I have.
First.. the vote. Several of the Directors
reported that the vote to move the line scores to
the Web was a UNANIMOUS vote. This answered
questions #1 and #2 fully. These were the two
main ones I wanted to know about.
Several noted that the debate over the issue was
'hearty and lively'.
They confirmed that all votes are voice votes and
not all are recorded. Since the vote was
unanimous no record was made.
(ASIDE - I DID responsd that had a simple one
line entry in the public announcement said 'The
vote to move the contest line scores was
unanimously in favor' it would have elimintaed my
need to ask the questions.)
They all retirerated that now that the decision
is made, they will support the decision and move
ahead with the actions necessary to implement the
changes agreed to.
As to having read/seen N0AX (et al) proposal, the
basic comment was that theywere aware of it, but
due to the fact it was presented at/quite near
the meeting they had not had time to read it
fully. This is logical and Ward did confirm that
it was submitted right about the time of the
meeting.
My questions have been answered to my
satisfaction. Each Director who responded did so
with the attitude that my questions were asked in
the spirit of wanting to know - as I intended
them to be recieved. Given the short fuse (Sent
at midnight EDST the previous night and answers
recieved by 10AM this morning!) it was over 50
percent which is good!
Any negative comments/observations expressed in
my original questions were only expressed as an
indicator of what was being heard/read by me in
public/private forums and was not MY opinion or
understanding. I felt they should know what a
simple 'trench-warrior' was hearing.
IN summary.. I am satisfied and my questions have
been answered fully. I have no further concerns
with the way things were done. I further applaud
their responsiveness and openess in filling me in
with the way things are done and handled.
So.. to the Directors.. thank you very much for
your responses.. your desire to inform.. and your
speed in responding.
This may not still the debates in teh Contest
community.. but at least it provides a public
forum for discussion.
vy 73
Chuck K3FT
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>From k0luz at topsusa.com Wed Jul 24 12:50:51 2002
From: k0luz@topsusa.com (K0LUZ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <200207241353.g6ODrg5r023359@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <LOBBKFICDFPNLHBMOBDKMEDIFJAA.k0luz@topsusa.com>
In a sense, this is one positive for promoting more contest activity
because now the non-member who participates in an ARRL contest can see his
score published on the Internet. As a non-member and not a recipient of
QST, I assume it was difficult to find out how they had scored compared to
others in the same category. This is what is called observing "the glass is
half full."
73
Red
K0LUZ
-----Original Message-----
Tom Osborne wrote:
>
> Pete Smith wrote:
>
> > Starting next January, "Section News" and contest line score
> > results will appear on the ARRL Web site >rather than in QST.
>
> Probably in the "members only" section, I suppose.
ARRL has been publishing contest results in Members Only for the first
month or so, but then moving them to the open section. So non-members
have been able to get a free ride (if one were willing to wait a
month) - no need to join or to even buy QST to see the results. I
suspect this procedure will continue.
Mike N2MG
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>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Wed Jul 24 13:17:18 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W4 CW Ops
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207240957170.16252-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Ya'll,
I'm organizing some teams for the upcoming CW NAQP on August 3rd. We
would welcome anyone in W4 in any capacity to join us. We will probably
have at least 2 part-timer teams.
73
Bill, W4AN
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Wed Jul 24 12:49:40 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Answers to questions I asked.
References: <20020724150853.80770.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <021b01c23332$1b43ba40$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>First.. the vote. Several of the Directors
>reported that the vote to move the line scores to
>the Web was a UNANIMOUS vote. This answered
>questions #1 and #2 fully. These were the two
>main ones I wanted to know about.
Sorry ... seems "several of the directors" may have
a problem with their short term memory loss here ...
There was ONE that did not cave in to this vote!
K5UR voted against it ... and he was the only one.
So ... that may skew the rest of the integrity of their
responses to your questions. <sigh> Good grief, if
they can't or won't even recall how the vote went ...
73 Billy AA4NU (cost savings? what cost savings?)
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Wed Jul 24 12:59:50 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <20020723181319.5B76.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Message-ID: <025401c23333$8715d9a0$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
>results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
>any complaints about that?
Apples and oranges here Gerry,
One is a for-profit business ... they can move the WW results to billboards
alongside the road if they chose to do so. Or they can chose to not print
the results, or not to continue support the contests. It's their ball game.
The other is our national organization that months ago stated these
steps were needed for financial reasons ... yet ... there was NO mention
of that in the recent release. Now, whose ball game is this?
73 Billy AA4NU
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Wed Jul 24 14:38:08 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest/DX Program at Austin Summerfest 2002
Message-ID: <20020724133808.G29418@cs.utexas.edu>
CTDXCC, the Central Texas DX and Contest Club, once again is pleased to
present an outstanding program at the Austin Summerfest amateur radio
convention in Austin, Texas, 2-3 August, 2002. The program this year will
feature one of the best DXpeditions of the past year, plus two different
aspects of the popular IARU contest held in mid-July.
The VP8THU/VP8GEO "micro-lite" back-to-the-basics DXpedition included a
proven international team to both the South Sandwich Islands and to South
Georgia on the RV Braveheart. George Fremin, K5TR, one of the excellent
operators in the DXpedition, and the group's computer expert, will give a
personal view of his experience, and tips on cracking big pileups from the
home side.
The program on the WRTC 2002 will be presented by Jim George, N3BB, who
was a referee at the 2002 Helsinki, Finland competition, and a competitor at
the 2000 WRTC in Slovenia. Jim will show photographs of the event and the
actual operation by one of the 52 teams, plus comment on the off-line
discussions during bull sessions, meals and tours. He has some
recommendations on improving your contest capability as distilled from
years of contesting experience, and advice from the world class operators
at the WRTC.
Richard King, K5NA, will present the W1AW/5 operation which honored the
Austin area by hosting the ARRL headquarters operation for the 2002 IARU
HF World Chhampionship. Six terrific central Texas stations, K5NA, K5TR,
N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT operated the IARU as W1AW/5 on all twelve bands,
both SSB and CW. Learn about these stations and their operators, and how
they did (which was very well), plus the innovative internet and logging
system they used so that all six stations had the same database of log
information. Learn about how they dealt with the bad storms which plagued
the area during the IARU contest.
In addition to the program, CTDXCC member Susan King, K5DU, will
be on hand to check DXCC cards for the deserving. Check out
http://www.repeater.org/summerfest/ for information and late breaking
news concerning Summerfest.
--
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University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From aa4ga at contesting.com Wed Jul 24 16:26:10 2002
From: aa4ga@contesting.com (Lee Hiers, AA4GA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <025401c23333$8715d9a0$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <3D3EC712.12842.350F66@localhost>
On 24 Jul 2002,, Billy Cox wrote:
> The other is our national organization that months ago stated these
> steps were needed for financial reasons ... yet ... there was NO mention
> of that in the recent release.
Yes, it was mentioned a few months back that the results were
being eliminated from QST for financial reasons, but the
announcement in ARLB046 stated:
"the Board agreed that the ARRL Web site now provides a better
medium to report the results of ARRL-sponsored contests, and line
scores no longer will appear in QST."
Which in no way confirms that this is a cost-
saving measure as they previously "advertised".
I would say that it gives reason for concern for
ARRL's continued sponsorship of contests,
possibly even their support of contesting as an
allowable activity on the bands - I would not be
surprised if they proposed a rules change to the
FCC which would prohibit contesting - if you
boil it down to membership numbers, I'm sure the
majority of members (not active $-spending
members, just numbers of members) would support
total elimination of contesting. It's only a
matter of time.
And I just bought another radio...dangit!
Lee
--
Lee Hiers, AA4GA
Cornelia, GA
mailto:aa4ga@contesting.com
>From 00tlzivney at bsu.edu Wed Jul 24 16:11:20 2002
From: 00tlzivney@bsu.edu (Zivney, Terry L.)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
Message-ID: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBB03@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
Because CQ still publishes the lines scores, top ten boxes, etc.
As far as I can see, the only things moved to the web were
the callsigns of the ops of the multi-op stations and a
small box showing the top single op score in each zone.
Thus, the CQ reporting is essentially unchanged in the
magazine.
Terry Zivney, N4TZ/9
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerry Hull [mailto:windev@inetmarket.com]
Sent: Tue 7/23/2002 5:15 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Cc:
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
any complaints about that?
73,
Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
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>From wu4g at pipeline.com Wed Jul 24 17:27:35 2002
From: wu4g@pipeline.com (Ron Bolton)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Additional Serial ports
Message-ID: <001b01c23350$8fa5c040$a344fea9@com>
Anyone tried using the SIIG PCI Expander boards? These seem to be much more
reasonably priced than the Byterunners and come with a 5 year warranty. (SIIG
2S PCI is $54, and 2 additional ports can be added to board for $24, all 4 use
same INT.) I looked at the USB to Serial converters and while they may be easy
to use, are much more expensive (cheapest 4 port was $125). Any other
suggestions?
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>From n4gi at tampabay.rr.com Wed Jul 24 17:53:17 2002
From: n4gi@tampabay.rr.com (n4gi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <3D3EC712.12842.350F66@localhost>
Message-ID: <000801c23354$22ee0990$6c01a8c0@EAC>
> I'm sure the
> majority of members (not active $-spending
> members, just numbers of members) would support
> total elimination of contesting. It's only a
> matter of time.
>
> And I just bought another radio...dangit!
>
> Lee
That's right folks, armageddon is looming.
Tell you what Lee (and any others): I can help in this time of gloom! Send
your new rig(s) to my call book address if you want. Oh, I'll take those
pesky amps and antennas off your hands too if you want (you probably won't
need those either).... I'll make sure that soon-to-be worthless stuff is
disposed of properly. ;-)
Blake N4GI
>From windev at inetmarket.com Wed Jul 24 19:59:52 2002
From: windev@inetmarket.com (Gerry Hull)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBB03@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
References: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBB03@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
Message-ID: <20020724184924.4085.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Yes, but I take CQ's changes personally -- I was one of the operators at
#1 M/S Canadian station VY2SS... Yet nobody would know that
without reading the web :-)
My comment about CQ was just to stir the pot... This reflector
provides great comedy in the off-contest season!
I have three points:
- I am not a member of ARRL because of QST. I am a member of
ARRL because we need a strong national voice for Amateur Radio.
ARRL, like it or not, is that organization. If another viable
organization existed, then I might consider that. <5% of QST
is of interest to me each month -- CQ, maybe 7%. QEX, 100%.
- CQ should be MORE responsive to complaints, if there are any.
That's because we can vote with our pocketbooks. No politics
involved -- just don't subscribe. In the QST/ARRL scenario, if we
vote with our pocketbooks, amateur radio is in deep do-do. So,
we vote by electing the people we want on the board -- and then they
do what they want anyway :-). Best way to change ARRL is to get
involved, rather than BSing on email reflectors.
- Contests will still be a lot of fun, and be very competitive, and
be a great aspect of amateur radio, no matter where the results are
published, and by whom.
73,
Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
> Because CQ still publishes the lines scores, top ten boxes, etc.
> As far as I can see, the only things moved to the web were
> the callsigns of the ops of the multi-op stations and a
> small box showing the top single op score in each zone.
>
> Thus, the CQ reporting is essentially unchanged in the
> magazine.
>
> Terry Zivney, N4TZ/9
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerry Hull [mailto:windev@inetmarket.com]
> Sent: Tue 7/23/2002 5:15 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Cc:
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
> Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
> results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
> any complaints about that?
>
> 73,
>
> Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
>
>
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>From k1ir at designet.com Wed Jul 24 20:23:04 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Line Scores BoD Minute
Message-ID: <vhgq43xnsfbgrxp.240720021923@designet-jsi>
Fellow Contesters and members of the Contest Coverage Working Group,
Below you will find the wording of the BoD minute regarding the decision to
move line scores to the web. Before you draw any conclusions about anything,
take some time to absorb this. We should also give the BoD and HQ some time to
reflect on the proposal we delivered late last week and to prepare and send
along a response. I think it will be a positive one.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
FROM: "Wilson, Mark K1RO" <mwilson@arrl.org>
TO: 'Jim Idelson' <k1ir@designet.com>
DATE: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:11:47 -0400
RE: RE: re[5]: Proposal delivered
Hi Jim,
Here is the minute from the Board meeting dealing with contest reporting.
The full minutes should be on the Web tomorrow.
73, Mark K1RO
_____
35. On motion of Mr. Bellows, seconded by Mr. Isely, it was VOTED that the
following resolution is ADOPTED:
WHEREAS, the ARRL management and ARRL Board of Directors are
committed to the support of contesting and operating activities, and
increasing the understanding and participation of ARRL members in those
activities; and
WHEREAS, the soon-to-be two official means of providing information
to members are QST magazine and the ARRL Web site; and
WHEREAS, ARRL management has significantly improved the capabilities
of the contest web site, including a searchable database of contest line
scores for members with the ability to easily analyze individual and club
scores; an online Soapbox where entrants can post information and photos and
exchange ideas immediately after the contest; expanded the write-up and
amount of information available for each contest; and initiated the email
Contest Rate Sheet newsletter to better inform contest participants; and
WHEREAS, as a means of encouraging increased member enjoyment and
participation in contests, ARRL management and QST editorial staff are
committed to continuing to enhance and improve the contest web site and
maintaining an ongoing presence in QST recognizing contests and the
achievements of contesters; and
WHEREAS, over the past six months members have come to understand
and appreciate the reasons for relocating of contest line scores and the
advantages of the expanded capabilities available on the web site;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that as of the January 2003 issue of
QST, contest line scores shall be relocated from QST to the ARRL Web.
>From dave at egh.com Wed Jul 24 20:28:17 2002
From: dave@egh.com (David Clemons)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL 10 Meter Contest Results
Message-ID: <00A116D0.B9C72202.27@egh.com>
The ARRL web site now shows the results of the 2001
ARRL 10 Meter Contest.
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Wed Jul 24 20:58:15 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Additional Serial ports
In-Reply-To: <001b01c23350$8fa5c040$a344fea9@com>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFMEJCDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
I've used the SIIG PCI serial expansion board on a Windows 98SE computer.
Works like a charm. I believe it installed as COM5 and COM6 if I recall
correctly.
73,
Gary W2CS
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ron Bolton
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 4:28 PM
> To: CQ Contest Reflector; Dx4win@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Additional Serial ports
>
>
> Anyone tried using the SIIG PCI Expander boards? These seem to
> be much more reasonably priced than the Byterunners and come with
> a 5 year warranty. (SIIG 2S PCI is $54, and 2 additional ports
> can be added to board for $24, all 4 use same INT.) I looked at
> the USB to Serial converters and while they may be easy to use,
> are much more expensive (cheapest 4 port was $125). Any other
> suggestions?
>
>
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>From gm at netsync.net Wed Jul 24 21:56:26 2002
From: gm@netsync.net (Gerry Maira)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
> Message: 7
> From: "Lee Hiers, AA4GA" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
> To: Cq-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
>
> I would say that it gives reason for concern for
> ARRL's continued sponsorship of contests,
> possibly even their support of contesting as an
> allowable activity on the bands - I would not be
> surprised if they proposed a rules change to the
> FCC which would prohibit contesting - if you
> boil it down to membership numbers, I'm sure the
> majority of members (not active $-spending
> members, just numbers of members) would support
> total elimination of contesting. It's only a
> matter of time.
Bingo! Someone is finally catching on. The ARRL won't so far as trying to
prohibit
contests, but they are distancing themselves from them. The exception is the
non-contest
field day exercise which is still good PR for the league.
I just started out in contesting about 2 years ago. One thing that helped spark
my
interest was seeing ARRL contest results in QST. Seeing the results there also
gave me
added incentive to try for more points. It won't be quite the same without
results
published in QST. NO ONE is going to take the trouble to look at scores on the
ARRL
website except for participants. In QST it's right there in front of you and
easy to
look at. The same is true for section news.
I ended my ARRL membership as of 1/02 for reasons that had little to do with
contesting.
I was amazed at the number of form letters they sent me trying to get me to
renew. They
basically said I wasn't doing my part to help protect Amateur Radio by not
supporting
them. The fact is, I need protection from the ARRL! I'm a CW operator, a DXer
and a
contester. Those are my main activities in the hobby, and each of them requires
some
degree of skill. Each has also suffered to some degree by the actions of the
ARRL -
especially CW. They ARRL doesn't want to turn off any of the new instant
gratification
folks by requiring or promoting anything that requires skill. Articles on
things like
how to properly type a URL in order to access a website, or specials like the
"ugly
shack contest" are what they think are appropriate now. They say we need more
licensed
hams and ARRL members in order to fend of the evil threats out there. Bunk! The
threats
are minimal and I would think almost non-existant on HF. We don't need more
than a few
hundred thousand licensed hams in this country to keep the hobby going. Dumbing
down has
only lowered the integrity of the hobby, and that's the thing the ARRL should
be most
concerned about. They sold us out!
Gerry KA2MGE
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Wed Jul 24 22:02:48 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c23377$3d0110c0$03010a0a@office1>
Moving the line scores to the web implies that we will be able to get the
results faster -- if for not other reason, just from the mere fact that we
won't have to wait 2 months or more for the final copy to be sent to the
printer, printed in the magazine, and left to the tender mercies (if any) of
the US Postal (alleged) Service.
Isn't this a good thing? (Besides, only the line scores won't be in, right?
The contest write-ups and soapboxes will be -- though I suspect the on-line
soapboxes will be greater.)
Look, the decision has been made, and I suspect that it's now irrevocable.
At best the combinded kvetching from groups like this one might put it off
for another 6 months -- maybe. But it's coming. So rather than kvetch
about mass conspiracies and make unfounded financial allegations, why don't
we put our collective heads together and figure out how to best exploit this
new tool to the benefit of the contesting community?
In fact, let's go one step further: Why not suggest to the ARRL that anyone
submitting an electronic log have the option to request that the final
results be emailed to them, line scores and all? It could be done as an
additional Cabrillo line in the header section, for one.
...oh, and about those comments the other day regarding the potential young
amateur buying QST off the newstand: Newstand? What newstand? At least
here in the Pittsburgh area, QST long since disappeared from the magazine
racks. Even Borders, which carries CQ & 73 and 10 million other
hobby-related magazines, doesn't carry QST (I asked at both of my local
ones -- they say they never heard of it!). I think we have a bigger problem
of getting QST into someone's hands to solve long before we start worrying
about what's in the magazine itself! (I shudder to think that someone's
first exposure to Amateur Radio these days might be one of Wayne's rants.
But I digress)
73, ron wn3vaw
"Some people say the beer glass is half empty.
Some people say it's half full.
To me, Woody, it says 'get me another drink!'"
-- Norm, Cheers (attributed)
From: "K0LUZ" <k0luz@topsusa.com>
To: "Mike Gilmer, N2MG" <n2mg@eham.net>,
"CQ-Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In a sense, this is one positive for promoting more contest activity
because now the non-member who participates in an ARRL contest can see his
score published on the Internet. As a non-member and not a recipient of
QST, I assume it was difficult to find out how they had scored compared to
others in the same category. This is what is called observing "the glass is
half full."
73
Red
K0LUZ
-----Original Message-----
Tom Osborne wrote:
>
> Pete Smith wrote:
>
> > Starting next January, "Section News" and contest line score
> > results will appear on the ARRL Web site >rather than in QST.
>
> Probably in the "members only" section, I suppose.
ARRL has been publishing contest results in Members Only for the first
month or so, but then moving them to the open section. So non-members
have been able to get a free ride (if one were willing to wait a
month) - no need to join or to even buy QST to see the results. I
suspect this procedure will continue.
Mike N2MG
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>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Wed Jul 24 22:06:55 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <000f01c23377$3d0110c0$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <MCBBJAHBAIHDJKDNKBBIOEKFCAAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> ...oh, and about those comments the other day regarding the
> potential young
> amateur buying QST off the newstand: Newstand? What newstand? At least
> here in the Pittsburgh area, QST long since disappeared from the magazine
> racks. Even Borders, which carries CQ & 73 and 10 million other
> hobby-related magazines, doesn't carry QST (I asked at both of my local
> ones -- they say they never heard of it!).
My local Barnes & Noble (Clear Lake-Houston, TX) carries QST, CQ and 73,
along with a a couple of SWL/Scanner type mags, electronic hobbyist mags and
even a Britsh electronics hobbyist magazine.
I have also seen QST in a couple of airport magazine/book shops.
73,
dale, kg5u
>From k2wr at njdxa.org Wed Jul 24 23:10:12 2002
From: k2wr@njdxa.org (Rich K2WR)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL BoD et al
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <002d01c23380$6b92abc0$7b9bfea9@5j08601>
To my esteemed fellow participants on the Contest Reflector:
(I write this from the standpoint of one with considerable experience in
serving on boards of membership organizations, and not necessarily involving
amateur radio...)
It's a bad idea to expect that people you elect to boards will follow your
agenda, or even their own. In fact, it's a bad idea if they run with any
agenda at all. The truth is, in almost any organization, 10 minutes after
the person you support (or his opponent) gets elected, he is going to know
far, far more about the organization than you do. Now, you can and should
express your opinion, but you should have elected the person because you
trust him to exercise his JUDGEMENT independently, and you should vote for
someone else when and if you lose that trust. (However, with the exception
of financial chicanery or irresponsibility, there is rarely any one issue
that reasonably should make or break that trust.)
In this particular case, I disagree with the Board's action as much as
anyone on this reflector. I am going to convey my opinion to my director
(N2FF), who was elected and re-elected (twice) with my vocal and significant
support, but I fully realize and accept that after 6 years on the Board he
knows far, far, far more about the workings of ARRL than I do, and, even
though I think he and my other friends on the Board reached the wrong
conclusion about contest line scores (and Section News, for that matter), I
elected him to use his own judgement, which I think he's done very
effectively for six years, and I'm going to support him just as intensively
next year for re-election as I did the last 2 times.
Why not make our next project one to change the "Top Ten" boxes to "Top
Fifty" boxes, now that all this space has been released due to removing the
line scores?
Rich K2WR
>From K9GY at K9GY.com Thu Jul 25 03:25:14 2002
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Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
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>From ve4xt at mb.sympatico.ca Wed Jul 24 22:39:46 2002
From: ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
Here's the thing: the people who won't bother to look at the line scores on
the Web are the same people right now who don't bother to look at the line
scores in QST.
Line scores have limited appeal -- primarily to us and us alone. That's not
going to change.
But what can change is the amount that non-contesters read the results. They
won't read line scores but they will read interesting stories, with good
anecdotes, good prose and good photography. There is no room for that now
since the majority of pages are devoted to line scores.
As the author of the 2001 SS Phone writeup, my behind the scenes work with
such ARRL luminaries as K1RO, NT1N, N1BKE and N1ND suggests a strong
commitment to making line score-free results work for everybody. I support
the efforts to move line score coverage to the Web (where it can be MUCH
more valuable to the people who actually care about them) and increase
non-line score copy in QST, where it can be much more interesting to the
people who don't care about line scores.
Anything that will make it MORE LIKELY that a non-contester will read the
results writeup is a good thing, no? Line scores don't do that.
It only makes sense to deliver the material people want in the form most
suited to them: the interactive sort functions applied to the SS line scores
on the Web site are nothing short of astounding. Want to compare 80 meter
rates among club scores in B? No problem. Want to find out who had the
highest non-sweep score? Simple. They really, really, really did an
absolutely fantastic job developing the contesting space on the ARRL site.
It is an excellent resource that we should all be happy to embrace.
The most powerful people at the League now are active contesters. Don't
forget that.
73, Kelly
VE4XT
"Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean everybody isn't out to get me."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Maira" <gm@netsync.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 7:56 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
> > Message: 7
> > From: "Lee Hiers, AA4GA" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
> > To: Cq-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
> >
>
> > I would say that it gives reason for concern for
> > ARRL's continued sponsorship of contests,
> > possibly even their support of contesting as an
> > allowable activity on the bands - I would not be
> > surprised if they proposed a rules change to the
> > FCC which would prohibit contesting - if you
> > boil it down to membership numbers, I'm sure the
> > majority of members (not active $-spending
> > members, just numbers of members) would support
> > total elimination of contesting. It's only a
> > matter of time.
>
> Bingo! Someone is finally catching on. The ARRL won't so far as trying to
prohibit
> contests, but they are distancing themselves from them. The exception is
the non-contest
> field day exercise which is still good PR for the league.
>
> I just started out in contesting about 2 years ago. One thing that helped
spark my
> interest was seeing ARRL contest results in QST. Seeing the results there
also gave me
> added incentive to try for more points. It won't be quite the same without
results
> published in QST. NO ONE is going to take the trouble to look at scores on
the ARRL
> website except for participants. In QST it's right there in front of you
and easy to
> look at. The same is true for section news.
>
> I ended my ARRL membership as of 1/02 for reasons that had little to do
with contesting.
> I was amazed at the number of form letters they sent me trying to get me
to renew. They
> basically said I wasn't doing my part to help protect Amateur Radio by not
supporting
> them. The fact is, I need protection from the ARRL! I'm a CW operator, a
DXer and a
> contester. Those are my main activities in the hobby, and each of them
requires some
> degree of skill. Each has also suffered to some degree by the actions of
the ARRL -
> especially CW. They ARRL doesn't want to turn off any of the new instant
gratification
> folks by requiring or promoting anything that requires skill. Articles on
things like
> how to properly type a URL in order to access a website, or specials like
the "ugly
> shack contest" are what they think are appropriate now. They say we need
more licensed
> hams and ARRL members in order to fend of the evil threats out there.
Bunk! The threats
> are minimal and I would think almost non-existant on HF. We don't need
more than a few
> hundred thousand licensed hams in this country to keep the hobby going.
Dumbing down has
> only lowered the integrity of the hobby, and that's the thing the ARRL
should be most
> concerned about. They sold us out!
>
> Gerry KA2MGE
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>From wd4ahz at gte.net Thu Jul 25 02:23:09 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net> <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
Message-ID: <3D3F8B3D.C5B32B8E@gte.net>
Kelly Taylor wrote:
> There is no room for that now since the majority of pages are devoted
> to line scores.
The idea of cutting line scores is to reduce the number of pages in QST
(I've heard 16 pages will be cut) - not free them up for something
else. Cutting line scores and section news reduces the number of pages
in QST and makes publishing costs less ... it doesn't mean more content
will take their place.
Ron
>From kr1g at hotmail.com Thu Jul 25 13:01:23 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <F63nk27XcYVJ4w3kXg50001f5bc@hotmail.com>
ABout 5 years ago while on my honeymoon in ZL, I had decided to become
active again after 10+ years off the air.
Found a copy of QST and CQ in a newsstand in Auckland - not even sure I
could do that in Boston.
73
Ted KT1V
>From: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
>To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
>
>
> > ...oh, and about those comments the other day regarding the
> > potential young
> > amateur buying QST off the newstand: Newstand? What newstand? At
>least
> > here in the Pittsburgh area, QST long since disappeared from the
>magazine
> > racks. Even Borders, which carries CQ & 73 and 10 million other
> > hobby-related magazines, doesn't carry QST (I asked at both of my local
> > ones -- they say they never heard of it!).
>
>My local Barnes & Noble (Clear Lake-Houston, TX) carries QST, CQ and 73,
>along with a a couple of SWL/Scanner type mags, electronic hobbyist mags
>and
>even a Britsh electronics hobbyist magazine.
>
>I have also seen QST in a couple of airport magazine/book shops.
>
>73,
>dale, kg5u
>
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Thu Jul 25 09:59:51 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020725085529.024b3a00@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 09:39 PM 7/24/02 -0500, Kelly Taylor wrote:
>As the author of the 2001 SS Phone writeup, my behind the scenes work with
>such ARRL luminaries as K1RO, NT1N, N1BKE and N1ND suggests a strong
>commitment to making line score-free results work for everybody. I support
>the efforts to move line score coverage to the Web (where it can be MUCH
>more valuable to the people who actually care about them) and increase
>non-line score copy in QST, where it can be much more interesting to the
>people who don't care about line scores.
Kelly, this is exactly the sort of reassurance we are looking for, and that
was strikingly absent from reports on the Board meeting. If there had been
direction to ARRL staff to "increase non-line score copy in QST," as there
was in the case of the Section News, then I would have zero complaint about
the outcome. Perhaps one of those ARRL luminaries would offer a statement
of ARRL's intentions in this respect, and put the issue to rest (except, of
course, for the requirement that we get busy writing).
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From n0ss at earthlink.net Thu Jul 25 09:42:03 2002
From: n0ss@earthlink.net (Tom Hammond =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=D8SS?=)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <3D3F8B3D.C5B32B8E@gte.net>
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
<000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020725082559.00b0b230@mail.earthlink.net>
Ron, et al:
Kelly Taylor wrote:
>I support the efforts to move line score coverage to the Web
>(where it can be MUCH more valuable to the people who actually
>care about them) and increase non-line score copy in QST, where
>it can be much more interesting to the people who don't care
>about line scores.
Ron Wetjen wrote:
>The idea of cutting line scores is to reduce the number of pages
>in QST (I've heard 16 pages will be cut) - not free them up for
>something else. Cutting line scores and section news reduces the
>number of pages in QST and makes publishing costs less ... it
>doesn't mean more content will take their place.
If, say, 16 pages were 'saved' by moving the line scores, this doesn't
necessarily imply that ALL of those pages would be lost.
Assuming that Kelly's statement, above, is correct, even if a FEW of those
16 pages were used to increase non-line score copy for contests, this would
be a good thing. And the ARRL would still be saving a BUNCH of paper in the
process.
I have no reason to doubt Kelly's statement, which implies that SOME of the
lost pages may actually be used in further SUPPORT of contesting, by way of
enhanced write-ups.
While I will miss not seeing my call... generally way down toward the
bottom of most listings... in QST, I certainly WOULD like to be able to
access the results more quickly via the Web, and to have them available to
all operators, not just ARRL members.
Tom Hammond N0SS
>From k1my at msn.com Thu Jul 25 08:20:00 2002
From: k1my@msn.com (Bruce Makas)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020725085529.024b3a00@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <005701c233e6$5dab5780$0101a8c0@pavilion>
Hi Pete, Nice thoughts but don't hold your breath. Non line score copy of
contests will never increase. Take that to the bank.
73, Bruce K1MY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
> At 09:39 PM 7/24/02 -0500, Kelly Taylor wrote:
> >As the author of the 2001 SS Phone writeup, my behind the scenes work
with
> >such ARRL luminaries as K1RO, NT1N, N1BKE and N1ND suggests a strong
> >commitment to making line score-free results work for everybody. I
support
> >the efforts to move line score coverage to the Web (where it can be MUCH
> >more valuable to the people who actually care about them) and increase
> >non-line score copy in QST, where it can be much more interesting to the
> >people who don't care about line scores.
>
> Kelly, this is exactly the sort of reassurance we are looking for, and
that
> was strikingly absent from reports on the Board meeting. If there had
been
> direction to ARRL staff to "increase non-line score copy in QST," as there
> was in the case of the Section News, then I would have zero complaint
about
> the outcome. Perhaps one of those ARRL luminaries would offer a statement
> of ARRL's intentions in this respect, and put the issue to rest (except,
of
> course, for the requirement that we get busy writing).
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 09:44:19 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20020725085529.024b3a00@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
References: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
<200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020725074143.00a7c830@pop3.eskimo.com>
I'm reading a lot about whether the line scores should be in QST or not.
I am not reading anything about anybody actually going up and trying out
the electronic versions.
So, I went up and reviewed the newly released ARRL 10M results.
Following that review, I was going to write a whole bunch about the entire
week's worth of long discussions regarding contest haters, economics,
following the money, conspiracies, politics, the death of the
hobby, and even.... <sigh> tree hugging.
However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
going on-line in three short words.
I like 'em.
rock on!
dink, n7wa
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 25 11:50:52 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
Message-ID: <00d001c233f3$118fc720$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>Kelly Taylor wrote:
>
>> There is no room for that now since the majority of pages are devoted
>> to line scores.
>
>The idea of cutting line scores is to reduce the number of pages in QST
>(I've heard 16 pages will be cut) - not free them up for something
>else. Cutting line scores and section news reduces the number of pages
>in QST and makes publishing costs less ... it doesn't mean more content
>will take their place.
>
> Ron
No so Ron, <sigh>
Yes ... that's what we were told back earlier in the year ... that this was
all due to financial concerns ... and you know from a business viewpoint
(MBA/corporate/etc.) if my national organization says there is a revenue
problem, and to survive they need to take some cost containment steps
to continue to exist, and that some of my perks as a member may have
to go away. Hey, I understand, do it ... but that's not what has happened.
Now go re-read the official release ... NO MENTION of reducing the number
of pages, NO MENTION of any form of cost containment. There IS mention of:
"The space freed up by relocating "Section News" will allow more in-depth
coverage of general news, public service activities and "how-to" articles
aimed at bringing more amateurs into the emergency preparedness fold."
Wait a second ... where's the we must contain costs cry from earlier this
year?
And as we gloat about how much greater the web-based options will be,
who's picking up the tab for all of that? Use of volunteers will help, but
there's going to be some incremental costs to support this also. There is
no free ride folks ... there are NEW costs to provide web-based services.
Also in the carefully worded release ... why no mention of anything stating:
"The space freed up by relocating "Contest ....." will allow more in-depth
coverage of contest news, contesting activities, and "how-to" articles aimed
at bringing more amateurs into the enjoyable sport of radio contesting".
My opinion is that omission is not by accident, as press releases are
carefully constructed to communicate exact and specific messages. NO
one from the ARRL has officially said anything about increased contest
exposure to replace the line-scores. Such a statement, if valid could have
been included in the press release. It was not. So who's fooling who here?
There's a wide variance between what we were told, and what has
happened. And that's disgusting behavior from our national organization.
73 Billy AA4NU
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 25 10:23:43 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <20020725162343.91310.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com>
The ARRL can't prohibit anyone from having a contest on any band.
If the ARRL doesn't like contests they I would say to them why don't
you just discontinue your contest program. Even more $$$ saved for
a silly and stupid activity... Hey ???
The ARRL never seems to really care about the views of the contest
community anyway (which cq-contest is an important forum to express
those views and the CAC) when making rules changes or any deciding
other issues that come before the BoD.
Don't take these comments as me being anti-ARRL... because I am
not. The ARRL is more than just a subscription to QST. I am VERY
grateful for all the work they do over the years fighting for our
frequencies and our right to just put up antennas. I am a life
member
of the ARRL and proud of it.
It would be very nice if those directors , who we know who are
contesters and probably subscribe to this reflector, would come out
of hiding and let us know why they voted the way they did ????
73's Jeff
--- Gerry Maira <gm@netsync.net> wrote:
> > Message: 7
> > From: "Lee Hiers, AA4GA" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
> > To: Cq-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
> >
>
> > I would say that it gives reason for concern for
> > ARRL's continued sponsorship of contests,
> > possibly even their support of contesting as an
> > allowable activity on the bands - I would not be
> > surprised if they proposed a rules change to the
> > FCC which would prohibit contesting - if you
> > boil it down to membership numbers, I'm sure the
> > majority of members (not active $-spending
> > members, just numbers of members) would support
> > total elimination of contesting. It's only a
> > matter of time.
>
> Bingo! Someone is finally catching on. The ARRL won't so far as
> trying to prohibit
> contests, but they are distancing themselves from them. The exception
> is the non-contest
> field day exercise which is still good PR for the league.
>
> I just started out in contesting about 2 years ago. One thing that
> helped spark my
> interest was seeing ARRL contest results in QST. Seeing the results
> there also gave me
> added incentive to try for more points. It won't be quite the same
> without results
> published in QST. NO ONE is going to take the trouble to look at
> scores on the ARRL
> website except for participants. In QST it's right there in front of
> you and easy to
> look at. The same is true for section news.
>
> I ended my ARRL membership as of 1/02 for reasons that had little to
> do with contesting.
> I was amazed at the number of form letters they sent me trying to get
> me to renew. They
> basically said I wasn't doing my part to help protect Amateur Radio
> by not supporting
> them. The fact is, I need protection from the ARRL! I'm a CW
> operator, a DXer and a
> contester. Those are my main activities in the hobby, and each of
> them requires some
> degree of skill. Each has also suffered to some degree by the actions
> of the ARRL -
> especially CW. They ARRL doesn't want to turn off any of the new
> instant gratification
> folks by requiring or promoting anything that requires skill.
> Articles on things like
> how to properly type a URL in order to access a website, or specials
> like the "ugly
> shack contest" are what they think are appropriate now. They say we
> need more licensed
> hams and ARRL members in order to fend of the evil threats out there.
> Bunk! The threats
> are minimal and I would think almost non-existant on HF. We don't
> need more than a few
> hundred thousand licensed hams in this country to keep the hobby
> going. Dumbing down has
> only lowered the integrity of the hobby, and that's the thing the
> ARRL should be most
> concerned about. They sold us out!
>
> Gerry KA2MGE
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>From k2kir at telenet.net Thu Jul 25 13:38:00 2002
From: k2kir@telenet.net (Bud Hippisley, K2KIR)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
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At 10:39 PM 2002-07-24 , VE4XT wrote:
>Line scores have limited appeal -- primarily to us and us alone.
I don't agree -- when I was a new ham, I used to read the line scores for my
section to see if I knew any of the contesters who participated -- even though
I hadn't yet decided that I wanted to be a contester.
> Anything that will make it MORE LIKELY that a non-contester will read the
>results writeup is a good thing, no?
Not automatically, and especially not if it's a zero-sum game and something
else has to suffer in return. There's a whole string of unproven presumptions
inherent in trading line scores for more verbiage -- including the one that
implies today's new generation will *read* about anything rather than just
*doing*.
But my principal objection to this whole thing is from the "historical records"
point of view. If I want to recall what my friends and I did in the 1933
Sweepstakes I can go to my collection of QSTs and know for certain that I will
find it. There is no such guarantee attached to whatever the League is
proposing to replace the QST coverage with -- as those of us who have suffered
through a similar but much earlier decision to remove coverage of the ARRL
National Traffic System from QST have learned the hard way. The promised
alternatives -- listing of NTS "line scores" (statistics) in a separate
specialty field organization newsletter and equivalent editorial space in QST
for articles about NTS and traffic handling have not survived in any meaningful
way.
Coincidentally, I recently read a similar wail from long-time columnists in a
popular computer magazine to the effect that their archived columns on the
publisher's web site had been deleted -- perhaps accidentally but, in any
event, deleted nevertheless. Their philosophical ruminations about the
limitations of web-based archiving can be found on pages 156-157 of the April
2002 issue of "Computer Shopper" magazine.
Surely the day will come when alternative publishing methods will be as
permanent, as ubiquitous, and as easy to read in bed or on the subway as
hard-copy magazines have been. But "we (society and technology) ain't there
yet", and especially not the ARRL, which has convinced me by its recent history
that its "commitments" aren't always as permanent as its hard-copy publications.
Bud, K2KIR
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:07:13 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251907.g6PJ7DA25591@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
2002 Georgia QP - Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
In State Rover LP
N4PN 676 75 400 57 20 20,876
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In State Single Op LP
KN4Y 591 0 42 0 12 49,644 FCG
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NJ8J 43 7 21 7 3 2,604 SECC
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
In State Single Op QRP
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 1.6 15 SECC
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Out of State Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
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Out of State Single Op LP
N4GG 78 10 64 10 9 12,284 PVRC
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
K8MR 52 4 39 4 4,644 MRRC
W4SAA 27 0 23 0 2 1,242 FCG
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
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Out of State Single Op QRP
NJ4X/7 32 0 31 0 3 1,984
K8GU(@K8GU/P) 8 0 8 0 < 1 128 MRRC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:07:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251907.g6PJ7nY25600@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
KB8U 227 99 17 30,888
K3DNE 167 69 10 15,732 PVRC
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
K8CC 130 72 6.5 12,240 MRRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
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All SOAB LP
VE3KZ 126 66 9,570 Ontario VHF Associat
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
K0UK 2 2 27hrs 6 Grand Mesa
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All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/2 QRP
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
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All SOSB/6 LP
K8KFJ 26 19 6 494
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 QRP
N3AWS 5 4 3 20
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:09:09 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251909.g6PJ99D25609@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
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Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
W6YX 446 156 10 69,576 NCCC
W1GZ 252 112 10 28,224
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All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
VA3DX 388 147 11 58,200
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 10 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
9A5W(@9A1A) 301 107 9 32,207
WB4EQS 259 124 32,116
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K7ZUM 241 118 7 28,438 WVDXC
N1NB 240 105 8 25,200
K4PX 225 111 10 24,975
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
W4BCG 222 107 9 23,754 TCG
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
W6ZL(BIGWAVE) 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
KD8FS 195 97 5 18,915
LP7H(LU9HS) 227 76 10 17,252
K3FH 176 98 8 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 6 14,964
IT9BLB 186 78 10 14,508 TIKIRRIKI CONTEST CL
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
K5AM 169 78 4 13,182
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
K1XX 161 78 9 12,090
IK0HBN 150 57 9 8,550
WB0O 110 71 2 7,810
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 2 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K9SZ 48 33 1,584
K6OWL 46 34 2 1,564
XE2AC 42 27 3 1,134
F6FJE 24 23 5 552
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
W1GZ N1MGO,WN1E
W6YX K6ENT,N6DE,W6ZZZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:22:43 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251922.g6PJMhT25625@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
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Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
HQ station (M/M)
S50HQ 4493 4185 416 24 11,710,400
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
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USA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 23 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
W7GG 362 300 44 9 265,742
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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USA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
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USA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 24 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 19 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 21 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
K9TM 901 0 109 13 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
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USA SO CW LP
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
W4BCG 75 0 40 6 9,400 TCG
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
K6XX 1264 247 179 23 1,030,682 NCCC
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 19 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
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USA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
K1HT 399 123 139 9 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 5 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
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USA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 13 10,701 SECC
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USA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
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USA SO SSB LP
NQ4U 0 235 49 8 81,498 TCG
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
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USA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
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DX M/S HP
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
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DX SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 0 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
PJ2E(N1UR) 2211 0 198 24 2,067,034 YCCC
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 20 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 0 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
DH7KU 550 0 66 16 134,640 DK0UN University Rad
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
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DX SO CW LP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
OH/W6YA 770 0 159 354,570
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
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DX SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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DX SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RK4FF 1594 846 325 24 2,637,700
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 23 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
UY5ZZ 991 304 123 956,032
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 15 463,606 HSDXA
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 8 402,327
XE2AC 225 598 90 8 257,760
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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DX SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
VE4YU 360 232 61 19 270,750
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 8 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
SV1DNW 132 58 84 12 43,008
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
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DX SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
DF1DX 141 114 92 13 71,300 RR DX
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DX SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 23 2,342,130 Other (specify when
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
RN4LP 1505 251 24 1,175,433
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
FM5GU 0 1492 99 10 609,246
S57UN(@S52ZW) 430 5 117,432 SCC
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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DX SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
SV1DKL 0 683 183 18 416,325
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
W7GG K7ZUM,KC7TWZ,W7GG
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:23:28 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251923.g6PJNSq25634@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in theis summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
VE5RI 527 1214 41 40 24 818,424
KA6BIM 251 440 35 33 24 373,048 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
VE7AVV 0 809 0 40 15 198,960 BCDX Club
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
K4BAI 181 22 0 0 27,632 SECC
K1GU 118 0 28 0 4 24,920 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE5SF 416 562 39 39 18.1 579,696
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE7UQ 62 346 17 28 153,540
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VA6RA 1 180 1 24 39,050
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VA3WN 142 50 13 10 6 26,542
W0ETT 100 2 25 1 7 21,632 Grand Mesa
VE3ANX 116 2 23 1 2.5 18,240
W1TO 67 12 15 5 12,680 YCCC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
N4WSM 0 29 0 13 4,550 TCG
W4NZ 32 3 9 2 3,300
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
VE3XAX 334 114 37 24 208,864 U-VE Contest Club
WB6BWZ 26 13 9 4 8.3 4,862 SECC
AA0XJ 19 5 7 3 5 2,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
VE3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 56 41 6 9 12 9,870
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
KA6BIM KA6BIM,NT6K
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From k1ir at designet.com Thu Jul 25 17:10:44 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL July 2002 BoD Meeting Minutes Posted
Message-ID: <57lkpsfvcecxz2w.250720021610@designet-jsi>
The minutes of the BoD meeting are posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/announce/board-0207/
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From wae at dl6rai.muc.de Thu Jul 25 21:59:09 2002
From: wae@dl6rai.muc.de (Bernhard Buettner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WAEDC-CW coming up!
Message-ID: <200207251859.g6PIxAZ01666@dl6rai.muc.de>
Hi Contesters!
The WAE DX Contest (CW portion) is coming up! Only two weekends
ahead, on August 10/11 the HF bands again will be full of "QTC?" -
the typical sign of the WAE DX Contest.
The idea of the QTC was born a long time ago - in 1936, the D.A.S.D.
(Deutscher Amateur Sende Dienst - the predecessor of the DARC) came up
with its first international Contest - the DJDC, which went over
five weekends. Non-German stations back then reported their QSOs back
to German stations. This was done in order to get complete coverage
of all QSOs done during the contest period - even if people would not
send in their logs. If you are interested in more information look
at the results archive at http://www.waedc.de - there you will find
results going back until 1936!
Today, the WAEDC only lasts a single weekend, 48 hours - and it's
coming up in a fortnight from now. Sending in logs today is so
easy with E-Mail and Log robots.
So - are you ready?
Check out the rules and latest changes at http://www.waedc.de! There
you can also download MP3 files of QTC traffic, look into the results
from the 2001 Contest, read about announced Contest operations etc.
Software authors have modified their logging programs to reflect the
latest changes in the WAE DX Contest. Find details on the Web site too.
If you have any questions or comments pertaining to the WAE DX Contest,
drop me a note at dl6rai@darc.de.
73 Ben, DL6RAI
--
[] Bernhard (Ben) Buettner, DL6RAI - WAE-DX-Contest Manager
[] E-Mail: dl6rai@darc.de Phone: +49-89-943663 Fax: +49-89-943191
>From thompson at mindspring.com Thu Jul 25 18:09:12 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Line scores
Message-ID: <009d01c23427$9b643600$781145cf@default>
A local ARRL official (just back from the Board meeting) thinks the line
scores will go on the open part of the ARRL web. The members only part will
allow you to digest your score (UBN).
No decisons have been made to expand NCJ with more scores. That decision
will be made over the next few months by HQ Management and the Executive
Committee.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From brianmiller at xtra.co.nz Fri Jul 26 11:30:00 2002
From: brianmiller@xtra.co.nz (Brian Miller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2001 OCEANIA DX CONTEST RESULTS
Message-ID: <016401c2342a$e61064a0$042556d2@default>
The full results for the 2001 Oceania DX contest are now available for viewing
on-line at the
Oceania DX Contest web site - go to
http://www.nzart.org.nz/nzart/update/contests/Oceania.
CONGRATULATIONS to all of the 2001 winners and thank you to everyone who
participated.
The Contest Committee was very pleased to see a 57% increase in the total
number of logs received
for the 2001 contest, including a 60% increase in logs from Oceania. The
increase indicates that our
strategy to rejuvenate the contest is working. We are looking for even greater
participation in
2002 - especially from Oceania stations.
I would especially like to acknowledge the Committee who managed the promotion,
log checking and
distribution of the results for the 2001 contest - the Committee members are
VK5GN, VK3TZ, VK4UC,
VK2FHN, VK2AYD, VK1JDX, ZL3GA, ZL2BSJ and ZL1AZE.
The 2002 Oceania DX contest is to be held on the following dates and times
PHONE Contest: 0800 UTC Saturday 5 October to 0800 UTC Sunday 6 October
CW Contest: 0800 UTC Saturday 12 October to 0800 UTC Sunday 13 October
The 2002 rules are available from
http://www.nzart.org.nz/nzart/update/contests/Oceania.
This will be the 66th Oceania DX Contest - lets make it the biggest and best
yet. Note that this
contest is a great opportunity to warm up for CQ WW! Please spread the word
about the contest and
encourage others to "have a go".
We look forward to working you in the 2002 contest.
73
Brian Miller
ZL1AZE
Chair Oceania DX Contest Committee
PS. You can get the latest gossip on the contest by joining the discussion
group at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OceaniaDXTest. Join the group by sending an email
to
OceaniaDXTest-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.
>From k8cc at comcast.net Thu Jul 25 20:08:12 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20020725112738.00abaac0@telenet.net>
References: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
<200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com> <3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020725184432.00998ca0@mail.comcast.net>
Back in the early seventies when I was a new ham (licensed 2-3 years) and
starting to get very enthused about contesting, the QST contest writeups
were a HUGE factor in increasing my knowledge. I was fortunate that the
library at community college I attended for the first few years after high
school had a rather complete collection of QSTs for the prior fifteen years
or so. They were stored in a back room and the librarian would unlock the
room and let me sit back there for hours digesting contest results.
What was it that attracted my interest - line scores? Heck no! First, it
was pictures of contest stations; no, not stations with a DX40 and an
NC300, but pictures of competitive stations like W3GRF, K1LPL/3, XE1IIJ,
W7RM, etc. It was always interesting to see what these guys were running,
which gave me something to aspire to. Second were the tables showing QSOs
and mults (varied depending on the contest); again, showing me what was
possible. And finally, contest writeups which explained the contest - who
beat who, and why; significant scores, antecdotes, etc.; much more than
simple recitations of first, second and third places in each category.
Its been a number of years since I've read a contest writeup in a magazine
which I truly enjoyed. The CQWW writeups, IMHO, are better than the ARRL
ones because K3EST is deeply involved in the contest and understands what
went on. I commend the ARRL recent writeups (particularly the on-line
versions) by guest authors which have been a great improvement and will
continue to get better as these writers gain experience (that is, assuming
they don't burn out and quit). Still there is room for improvement - IMHO
there needs to be more pictures and more comparison breakdowns. For
example, the January VHF SS writeup lacked the traditional boxes with top
QSOs and grids per band. I'm not sure whether scoring info by band was
available in the results - even if so, sorting through hundreds of scores
is a lot of work for the reader when the author might be able to run a
database query and format it into a table with little work.
I believe that an attractive, interesting article about the results of a
contest has a place in QST. I'm not so much against including line scores
as I am a proponent of better use of space. I'd prefer to *read about the
contest* and opposed to going glassy-eyed over columns of data.
At the same time, we contesters need to get off our butts. We need to
submit more photos, stories, etc. about our contest efforts as material for
the writeup authors to use. And those of us who are capable of writing
need to step up and volunteer to do the writeups. N1ND's time is put to
much better use making the contest results happen.
FWIW.
73,
Dave/K8CC
>From trey at kkn.net Thu Jul 25 19:10:31 2002
From: trey@kkn.net (Trey Garlough)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
Message-ID: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Have you ever noticed that contest results take so long to appear in
magazines that sometimes you can't remember whether or not you
actually operated the particular contest you are reading about at the
moment?
Many years ago I had a dream that we would be able to operate contests
and then see the final results immediately after the events were over.
This will not be achievable if we rely on QST as a delivery mechanism.
As you may be aware I have been doing some volunteer work for the
League over the past few years to automate the log collecting and
results tabulating process for ARRL contests. Based on the current
state of the art, here are the top three delay factors that keep us
from publishing the results for the Sweepstakes in a timely fashion:
1) 45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
2) 30 day log submission deadline
3) contest writeup and magazine article layout
If we eliminate #1 by publishing on the web and cut #2 from 30 to 15
days, then I believe we can *tranquilly* release the complete final
results of Sweepstakes within 30 days of the contest. In fact, last
year Tree N6TR advanced the log processing tools for Sweepstakes to
the point that we are now capable of producing the complete set of
line scores and top ten boxes and so forth within 30 minutes of the
log deadline. Why wait until June to read the magazine when you can
see the results on the web in December?
Toward this end in November 2001 I introduced a propsal to the folks
at ARRL HQ that the log submission deadline be cut from 30 days to 15
days, effective with the contest season beginning with the 2002
November Sweepstakes. Let me explain how I decided on 15 days as a
nice compromise between 10 minutes and 30 days.
Over the past couple of years I have noticed a trend in how contest
logs are submitted. There is one spike that occurs right after the
contest and another spike the occurs right before the log submission
deadline, and during the intervening weeks the robot becomes very
quiet. I believe the reason for this is that there is really very
little work to be done to your logs anymore -- they are already duped
and scored and everything right at the end of the contest!
Secondly, cutting the log submission deadline from 30 to 15 days gains
us back 15 additional days to get the results published. 15 days is a
lot when you are trying to meet a 30 day (or 15 day!) deadline for
publishing the results.
Thirdly, I like 15 days because it gives everyone two complete
weekends to deal with their logs (as if there is really anything that
needs to be done with them). This gives the guy who bolts off on a
business trip on the Monday morning after the contest two weekends to
do something.
Fourthly: submitting your log on time is part of the contest!
Additional data: over 90% of electronic SS logs were submitted in
Cabrillo format last year. The number of paper logs received is
declining every year, and at this point all of them can be descibed
more as "participant" class logs rather than "competitor" class logs.
The beauty of the web results is that these logs can be added to the
list as they dribble in if they are delayed by an anthrax scare or
whatever.
Further data point: of the 1800 WPX SSB logs received thus far by
N8BJQ, 1500 are in Cabrillo format. Please note that unlike the ARRL,
CQ does not *require* electronic logs to be submitted in Cabrillo
format. However, this is not stopping people from submitting Cabrillo
logs anyways.
OK, so there you have the details of my proposal. The purpose of this
message is to solicit feedback from the contest community about how a
15 day log submission deadline would affect *you*. Please feel free
to write me privately, or to post back to the cq-contest list itself
and make your opinion heard -- either way is fine with me.
Please limit your comments to how this change would have affected
*you* personally in a contest during a recent year or how it might
affect you in the future. I am not interested in hearing hypothetical
situations such as "but, but, but, what if someone operates the
contest from the USVI, then goes on a 16 day Carnival Cruise
immediately after the contest, and during the cruise an asteroid falls
out of the sky and disables the communications system rendering the
onboard internet cafe inoperable?" I can think of plenty of
hypothetical situations of this nature on my own, as well as plenty
non-hypothetical ones. Earlier this year I spent 42 days in VP8/F,
VP8/Sand and VP8/G, and I can tell you that I could have beaten the 15
day deadline from any of these places had it been necessary. What I
am looking for is *practical* feedback about problems that the 15 day
deadline could possible create in your own personal situation.
Now is your chance to be heard! Let's hear it!
One final comment: I know people are bumming about losing line scores
in QST -- I'm a little sad too. However, I'm really excited about the
opportunity this gives us to make some lemonade out of the situation
and make work towards the ultimate dream of realtime results at the
end of the contest.
You can say what you want about about WRTC, whether it's fair or
not, or whether the stations were equal or not, whether it proves
anything or not, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, but the OH boys
were handing out the trophies the day after the contest, and in my
book this is totally cool!
Thanks for listening, and feel free to repost this message to your
local contest club mailing list.
--Trey, N5KO & HC8N
>From w5vx at hiline.net Thu Jul 25 21:33:11 2002
From: w5vx@hiline.net (Bill Parry)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Line scores
Message-ID: <NFBBICAGALOBNBAMOGIGGEGNCLAA.w5vx@hiline.net>
Now that this issue seems to be settled, I am willing to accept the change
that was voted by our Board of Directors. I would have preferred that the
line score had been left in QST but we have elected our directors to make
these decisions. I believe that the stories and line scores will serve me
well.
Unfortunately, I believe that we are too willing to accept the high-handed
way this issue was handled originally. I have been a life member of the ARRL
for many years and have always supported it. I thought I was a member of an
organization that elected people to make decisions about our hobby in a open
and honest atmosphere. Apparently, the board fears the membership enough to
operate in secrecy, at least on this occasion. If our Board of Directors
operates in this fashion all the time, we have more problems than line
scores!
Bill - W5VX
"All organizations are perfectly aligned for the results they get."
>From swca at swbell.net Thu Jul 25 22:18:04 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
References: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
<200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com> <3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
<4.2.0.58.20020725184432.00998ca0@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <029701c2344a$ad7e8750$0100a8c0@TL01>
K8CC wrote, among other things:
>They were stored in a back room and the librarian would unlock the
>room and let me sit back there for hours digesting contest results.
Thoughtful insights, Dave.
I can't help thinking, however, that all of us, myself included, who talk
about how great it *used* to be to read about contests in QST are living in
the past.
I can't help thinking that kids today are more web-fluent than we were ever
magazine-fluent. All the kids I mentor (about 5 whiz-kids) do things with
their hands on a keyboard and mouse that I can't even follow because it
happens too fast, and every last one of them types faster than any of us
ever did in High School.
And I think their multi-tasking with Windows is probably the reason
computers are getting faster and require so much more RAM.
So therefore, I think "The future is the web, man." Anyway, I am really
glad the contest reporting energy at the ARRL is focused squarely on the
internet.
Mark, N5OT
PS. Tree, if you don't want to get too close to the lighter fluid with the
match, you can do this really cool thing with a match and a can of WD-40.
>From n4gn at n4gn.com Thu Jul 25 23:24:33 2002
From: n4gn@n4gn.com (Tim Totten, N4GN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
In-Reply-To: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0207252207450.10099-100000@shell1>
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Trey Garlough wrote:
> Toward this end in November 2001 I introduced a propsal to the folks
> at ARRL HQ that the log submission deadline be cut from 30 days to 15
> days, effective with the contest season beginning with the 2002
> November Sweepstakes.
<snip>
> OK, so there you have the details of my proposal. The purpose of this
> message is to solicit feedback from the contest community about how a
> 15 day log submission deadline would affect *you*.
I fully support this proposal! In fact, it's hard to think of much else
to add to Trey's well-reasoned post. I'm certainly hard pressed to dream
up even a wild hypothetical scenario where the difference between a 15-day
and 30-day submission window would make any difference to me. And the
goal of greatly reducing the time to report the results is certainly a
worthy one.
So I'm very much in favor of implementing a 15-day submission window,
starting with this year's SS.
73,
Tim Totten, n4gn@n4gn.com
http://www.n4gn.com
>From n2mg at eham.net Thu Jul 25 23:49:01 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <00e101c2344f$00932820$3201a8c0@mikehome>
I was originally against this proposal when I first heard of it as it forces
us to process some of our Fall contest logs during probably the busiest
contest month of the year, November. As it stands today, I needn't worry
about submitting any logs from the big four (CQWW SSB/CW & SS CW/SSB) until
December. I must say that I like that arrangement. Also, a difference in
15 days hardly made a dent in the time-to-market of the scores.
However, since the removal of line scores from QST will reduce the
processing time significantly, 15 days is now a big percentage...so if
asked, I would vote in favor. I'll eventually get used to the idea (even my
wife admits I can learn new tricks from time to time) and maybe someday we
can shorten it up some more. Removing line scores from QST removes one of
the last vestiges of paper from the contesting world. Continued shortening
of the log submission deadlines will remove what is perhaps the very last
one - paper logs.
I see some new Early Bird awards/pins for the first 100 Cabrillo logs in
with more than 300 QSOs...or even better, all logs received within 1 hour
get a 1000 point bonus!
Mike N2MG
N5KO wrote:
> I introduced a propsal to the folks
> at ARRL HQ that the log submission deadline be cut from 30 days to 15
> days, effective with the contest season beginning with the 2002
> November Sweepstakes.
>From wb0wao at hotmail.com Fri Jul 26 06:29:21 2002
From: wb0wao@hotmail.com (Dennis Ponsness)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL, Line Scores, Etc.
Message-ID: <F15120lbhsKd6QR7j1H000001bd@hotmail.com>
One of the down sides is not seeing you call in print in QST, but I can live
with that. I must say that I am impressed with the content on the ARRL
website. Especially the LCR's - showed me where I needed to improve <grin>
! I can live with the change.
I do agree that the time should be cut to 15 days for submissions AND most
definately that the results be "published" very soon after. 6 months is
waaaay to long to wait. The results should be made available within 30 days
of the event.
Now, when will the 'test logs be incorporated into the "LoTW" project? That
is something that I know I would love to see. If the Q is good enough for
the ARRL to accept as a valid 'test Q, it should be good enough to accept
for WAS, DXCC, etc. I am not a "big gun" in the contesting game (100w,
vertical, wire antennas) and I think I have received a total of a couple
dozen QSL requests from 'test Q's. I can only imagine what a major 'test
station gets!
Anyway, I will still participate in the 'tests, have fun, and give out some
Q's. Look for me in the pileups!
73
Dennis - WB0WAO
(Searchin' and Pouncin')
NJQRP #329
FPQRP #-347
SOC #499
FISTS # 9299
GACW #622
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Fri Jul 26 03:51:59 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
Message-ID: <003f01c23470$f16980c0$6a2745cf@default>
I can't speak for any contest but the CQ 160 Contests. Shortening the
deadline makes sense
if and only if the following occurs:
All logs are submitted electronically and are in PROPER cabrillo
format.
For the 2002 CQ 160 Contests I have received 438 SSB logs and 889 CW Logs
plus check logs
plus check logs. Lets look at the facts! 46 Paper logs were received on
SSB and 77 on CW
Most were small logs but several on both modes were significant. There
were 40 old format electronic logs received on SSB and 89 on CW. Of these
all but 5 were e-mailed. Of the rest supposedly cabrillo I find that 1 out
of 5 do not check as cabrillo and have to be converted before
running through the crass check/log check programs. On top of this I
noticed that 18 on SSB and 31 on CW were lacking cabrillo elements as I
logged them in. We are now up to a significant number of logs in both
modes.
Here are some of the problems:
1. The name of the contest in the cabrillo summary are wrong. There is
an official name for most contests and for me its either CQ-160-CW or
CQ-160-SSB. Anything else and its not cabrillo.
2. The category has fields missing or out of order.
3. The fields in the log portion are out of order or run together. If
the mode and date are run together the log checker tells me mode and or date
is not identified. I then put the log aside until I can put it in Wordpad
and edit it to get correct fields.
I suggest that every contestant should look at the log and if you are not
sure the cabrillo is correct then run it through one of several cabrillo
converter programs. I do find that CT, TR, and Writelog (recent versions)
do produce good cabrillo.
I just finished the SSB logs except for three problem logs and it took a
full two weeks working several hours a day. With 100% cabrillo I could have
checked the logs in a day and 70% of that is set up!. I now face a month of
grinding through the CW logs. Get the log in proper format and the programs
will do the rest!
I am sure the CQ WW, WPX, and ARRL contests must face these problems.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From g3xtt at lineone.net Fri Jul 26 09:51:24 2002
From: g3xtt@lineone.net (Donald Field)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Contest - Announced Operations
Message-ID: <006701c23479$fac38540$39a6403e@field>
Almost there! I have been trying to compile a list of announced operations,
so I thought it might be helpful to share this with the main contest
relectors. I certainly don't pretend it is definitive, but it brings
together information from Daily DX, 425 DX News, and various Web pages
containing announced contest operations. Remarkably, this list contains
announced operations from over 120 island groups, and of course many other
islands will be active too. If you make some QSOs, then do please send in
your log to iota.logs@rsgbhfcc.org (see www.rsgbhfcc.org for full rules) -
usual system, with the log file as (Callsign).LOG or (Callsign).CBR. Enjoy!
EU-001 J45RW
EU-004 EA6URP EA6/DL6YFB
EU-005 M6T G9Q (and many others!!)
EU-006 EJ0A
EU-008 GM2T GM5A
EU-009 GM/F5BLC?
EU-011 M0C
EU-013 GJ2A
EU-015 SV9/PA1AW/P
EU-016 9A7K 9A5V 9A2JY 9A8RR 9A0LH
EU-017 ID9/IK8PGM
EU-020 SM1T SM0DKT/1
EU-023 9H3X 9H3Z 9H3QC
EU-030 OZ/DJ7RJ
EU-031 IC8JAH
EU-032 TM0X
EU-035 R17PQ
EU-038 PA6TEX
EU-042 DL4FCH/P
EU-049 SV8/G4DHF J48S
EU-052 SV1BRL/8
EU-057 DL3KUD/P
EU-064 F6BFH/P
EU-067 SW8L
EU-068 TM2ON
EU-077 ED1URJ
EU-082 RW1ZZ
EU-084 8S5T/0 8S4C/5
EU-089 CU9D
EU-091 II7GR
EU-092 GB5SI
EU-097 OH2/SM0ELV
EU-098 DL0FDX
EU-114 GU8D
EU-115 EI7M
EU-116 MD4K
EU-117 R1MVI
EU-120 G5XV
EU-121 EJ5E
EU-123 GM7X
EU-127 DL5CW/P DL5XL/P DF6QC
EU-128 DH6DG/P DF4XX/P
EU-129 DL0KWH/P
EU-130 IV3/HA8KW/P
EU-132 SN6F/1 SN0WI
EU-133 RI1CGG
EU-136 9A0R 9A/S55A 9A7T/P 9A6AA
EU-143 EA5KB/7
EU-144 IQ8B
EU-146 PI4HQ PA9ZZ/P PA5RA/P
EU-161 RA1QQ
EU-170 9A4A 9A/HB9HAW 9A/HA6PS 9A/HA6NL 9A0A
EU-171 OZ0RM OZ/DL7VOX/P
EU-173 OH9A
EU-175 CU3I
EU-178 ES8X
EU-181 LZ1KSL
EU-184 OH8/ES1RA OH8/ES1FB
EU-186 TA1ED/0
EU-187 SY9DIA
AF-004 EA8BWW
AF-014 CT3KY
AF-016 FR5FD
AF-036 ???
AF-042 EG9IA
AF-065 5C2MI
AS-008 JO1EPY/1
AS-024 JH1MUK/6
AS-032 JA6CM JF6WTY
AS-047 JM1PXG/6
AS-053 E20HHK/P
AS-058 9M2/G4ZFE/P
AS-066 RI0L
AS-080 ???
AS-101 HS1CHB/P
AS-105 DS0DX/2
AS-107 E21EIC/P
AS-117 JA4GXS/4 JA4PXE/4
AS-136 BI4J
AS-137 BI5H
AS-147 JI3DST/8 JR3TVH/8
AS-155 BV9L BV9K
AS-159 YM0T
NA-001 C6DX
NA-014 VE9W
NA-015 CO8LY
NA-026 N2GC
NA-029 VE2DX/VY2 VE1OTA/VY2
NA-032 FP/VE9GLF
NA-033 5K0Z
NA-046 K1VSJ
NA-051 VE7SR? N6HR/VE7 VE7QCR
NA-054 NA8KD
NA-055 W4KJ/1?
NA-058 N2SU
NA-067 N4C
NA-069 K4RFL
NA-075 VE7TMW N7MQ/VE7
NA-076 W4HY
NA-083 N2US/P WF1L/4 W4/LZ3SM KG4NXP KG4OHE AI2P/4
NA-091 AC7PN/VE7
NA-092 K5M
NA-099 KP4AH
NA-105 FS/N3OC
NA-137 KW1DX
NA-141 W4SAA
NA-143 KM5VI
NA-148 AA1IZ WF1N W1DIG
NA-158 WL7O?
NA-213 WW4LL
OC-019 KG9N/KH6
OC-034 YC9WZJ
OC-088 9M6A
OC-154 VK8AN/6
OC-160 VK4FW
OC-169 A35RK
OC-NEW 8A3M
SA-006 PJ2Y
SA-028 ZW2T/P
SA-046 ZX7XX
SA-060 PY8AZT/P
SA-066 YW1T
73 Don G3XTT
IOTA Contest Manager
g3xtt@lineone.net
>From Bill at ng3k.com Fri Jul 26 05:30:39 2002
From: Bill@ng3k.com (Bill@ng3k.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RSGB IOTA Contest Announced Operations
Message-ID: <3D40D06F.5761.1C1FD6@localhost>
IOTA contesters may want to check:
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iota2002.html
This list is sorted by callsign, but users can also get tables
sorted by DXCC-entity and IOTA number by clicking the
corresponding header in the main table or here are the
direct URLs:
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iotad2002.html (By DXCC)
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iotai2002.html (By IOTA)
The table provides: Operation callsign, DXCC Entity, IOTA
reference, Island name, QSL route, Source of info, Operators
and other operational notes.
Hope this is of some use.
73,
Bill/NG3K
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 26 06:23:54 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The Personal Touch
Message-ID: <000d01c2348e$8c7d7db0$0100a8c0@TL01>
I just responded to Trey's "15 days" post and thought I'd throw this out:
1. These days I get on casually for just about everything. (Hopefully this
season N5OT will be ready, but it might not, so I might still be casual this
season).
2. 30 days makes me think "I'll do this later" (so would 15). (My excuse is
I don't have internet at the shack, but even when I operated from home I
still didn't do it right after the contest).
3. More than half the time I forget, because it's not high on the priority
list, because I operated casually.
4. Result - sponsor misses out on some more data, results are one smidge
less comprehensive.
5. If somebody in charge emailed me saying "we know you were on the air
casually, could you send us your data, please?" I would respond favorably.
("Oops. Sorry. Here you go....")
Tree did this from time to time for contests he scored. That old "personal
touch" makes a differernce. I am writing this to cq-contest so the N8BJQs
and N1NDs of the world would consider adding this to their arsenels.
I bet this could be done with software and all the log collector would have
to do is write the text of the resulting email. Trivial. I bet the
software already has this ability built into it just waiting to be used:
"Print a report of callsigns in the contest from whom logs have not yet been
received." Just a guess.
?
Mark, N5OT
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 26 08:19:33 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
scores decision)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0207252207450.10099-100000@shell1>
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020726071807.00a75960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 10:24 PM 7/25/02 -0400, Tim Totten, N4GN wrote:
>I'm certainly hard pressed to dream
>up even a wild hypothetical scenario where the difference between a 15-day
>and 30-day submission window would make any difference to me. And the
>goal of greatly reducing the time to report the results is certainly a
>worthy one.
>
>So I'm very much in favor of implementing a 15-day submission window,
>starting with this year's SS.
I wouldn't mind 15 days either, but I can't, for the life of me, figure out
why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by more than 15
days. Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented just
as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From balister at vt.edu Fri Jul 26 09:57:16 2002
From: balister@vt.edu (balister)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [iota-contest] IOTA Contest - Announced Operations
Message-ID: <3D4243B8@zathras>
You can add:
K4EP/P from NA112. QSL via CBA or buro. Also look for KF4NLM/P, QSL via
CBA or buro.
If we don't have a repeat of this morning storm :) Gotta luv the North
Carolina
coast in July.
Philip
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 26 10:05:13 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
In-Reply-To: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFOELEDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
<<SNIP>>
>
> OK, so there you have the details of my proposal. The purpose of this
> message is to solicit feedback from the contest community about how a
> 15 day log submission deadline would affect *you*. Please feel free
> to write me privately, or to post back to the cq-contest list itself
> and make your opinion heard -- either way is fine with me.
>
> Please limit your comments to how this change would have affected
> *you* personally in a contest during a recent year or how it might
> affect you in the future. I am not interested in hearing hypothetical
> situations such as "but, but, but, what if someone operates the
> contest from the USVI, then goes on a 16 day Carnival Cruise
> immediately after the contest, and during the cruise an asteroid falls
> out of the sky and disables the communications system rendering the
> onboard internet cafe inoperable?" I can think of plenty of
> hypothetical situations of this nature on my own, as well as plenty
> non-hypothetical ones. Earlier this year I spent 42 days in VP8/F,
> VP8/Sand and VP8/G, and I can tell you that I could have beaten the 15
> day deadline from any of these places had it been necessary. What I
> am looking for is *practical* feedback about problems that the 15 day
> deadline could possible create in your own personal situation.
I fully support this proposal. Something like this was EXACTLY what I was
hoping would be the consequence of moving the line scores out of QST.
As for some of your assumptions... Personally, the first thing I do with my
logs is immediately copy them to another media and then I either process the
logs the next day/evening (once my head is moderately clear), or they sit in
the computer until the deadline looms near. The absolute number of days to
the deadline has never been an issue with me. I've never been on a
DXpedition in a contest, however. But, it's hard for me to imagine any
location in the world that, short of a boat sinking or airplane crashing,
would not allow me to get to an internet port within 15 days. Or, put
differently, I would plan for that to happen with plenty of time to spare
for backup.
As evidence 15 days' being sufficient, I'll relate some of my experience
with cruise lines. I note that just about every cruise line offers cruises
in the 10-12 day-long time frame. In that time, a cruise can get you from
Istanbul to the east coast of Spain. Or, from Southampton, England to
Athens. Transatlantic is much shorter. BA to the Antarctic and back is
slightly less. And that's mostly with overnight cruising and sitting in a
port all day or meandering in beautiful bays looking at wildlife during the
day. So, can a fishing trawler make it from Unreachable Rock to Internet
City in 10-12 days without the sightseeing delays? Absolutely, IMHO.
<Now, if the deal is, he has to stop to fish, dunno :-)) >
Nice job. Thanks for taking the lead on vastly improving our results
publication.
Vy 73,
Gary W2CS
Apex, NC
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 26 10:21:21 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020725184432.00998ca0@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIELFDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Dave,
Your expose brought back some personal memories that were very similar. As
a kid I, too, would pour over contest line scores and imagine what kind of
station and op skills were required to be in that top ten list. Or, plot
how I was going to beat the kid across town who thoroughly trounced me in a
SS with only dipoles. I'd analyze the hell of them. Hell, I still do!
Kids of today (kids of all ages, but "kids") will have no problem doing the
same thing with the internet results. In fact, the various
searching/sorting will likely improve it a bit. As we, the contesting
community, become accustomed to this resource, I'm sure the copy will
improve as will pictures and station descriptions.
Bud, K2KIR, made an excellent point when he expresses concern about losing
the line scores as web sites change, systems crash, etc. A hundred
thousand printed copies probably stand a better chance of being kept safe
over time than web site content does.
I don't know if ARRL HQ still does this, but years ago they would keep at
least one copy of every QST (and other League pub) ever published. It was
neat to visit HQ and be able to pull one of these and gingerly look through
it. Something equivalent to that really needs to be implemented for the
computer line scores and writeups. In many ways these contest results,
pictures and station descriptions are our history. They show what we looked
like (gads!), bring back memories of that equipment we thought was state of
the art (we really made Qs with THAT?), and sets a statistical base for
comparision with future efforts (nr of participants, top scores, scores vs
sunspot cycle, ...).
What's the best way of preserving web site content for the future? I'm a
user of the web, not a web site architect. Is it possible to capture a
"snapshot" of the ARRL site or subset thereof that can be activated later
and still work? (Note this implies probably storing the computer image on
which it resides, and maybe at some points the computer itself, so that
supporting software is part of the archive.) I don't think the equivalent
of a batch of QSTs in a climate-controlled room is easily accomplished.
But it should be done.
73,
Gary W2CS
Apex, NC
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of David A. Pruett
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:08 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
>
>
> Back in the early seventies when I was a new ham (licensed 2-3 years) and
> starting to get very enthused about contesting, the QST contest writeups
> were a HUGE factor in increasing my knowledge. I was fortunate that the
> library at community college I attended for the first few years
> after high
> school had a rather complete collection of QSTs for the prior
> fifteen years
> or so. They were stored in a back room and the librarian would
> unlock the
> room and let me sit back there for hours digesting contest results.
>
> What was it that attracted my interest - line scores? Heck no!
> First, it
> was pictures of contest stations; no, not stations with a DX40 and an
> NC300, but pictures of competitive stations like W3GRF, K1LPL/3, XE1IIJ,
> W7RM, etc. It was always interesting to see what these guys were
> running,
> which gave me something to aspire to. Second were the tables
> showing QSOs
> and mults (varied depending on the contest); again, showing me what was
> possible. And finally, contest writeups which explained the
> contest - who
> beat who, and why; significant scores, antecdotes, etc.; much more than
> simple recitations of first, second and third places in each category.
>
> Its been a number of years since I've read a contest writeup in a
> magazine
> which I truly enjoyed. The CQWW writeups, IMHO, are better than the ARRL
> ones because K3EST is deeply involved in the contest and understands what
> went on. I commend the ARRL recent writeups (particularly the on-line
> versions) by guest authors which have been a great improvement and will
> continue to get better as these writers gain experience (that is,
> assuming
> they don't burn out and quit). Still there is room for
> improvement - IMHO
> there needs to be more pictures and more comparison breakdowns. For
> example, the January VHF SS writeup lacked the traditional boxes with top
> QSOs and grids per band. I'm not sure whether scoring info by band was
> available in the results - even if so, sorting through hundreds of scores
> is a lot of work for the reader when the author might be able to run a
> database query and format it into a table with little work.
>
> I believe that an attractive, interesting article about the results of a
> contest has a place in QST. I'm not so much against including
> line scores
> as I am a proponent of better use of space. I'd prefer to *read
> about the
> contest* and opposed to going glassy-eyed over columns of data.
>
> At the same time, we contesters need to get off our butts. We need to
> submit more photos, stories, etc. about our contest efforts as
> material for
> the writeup authors to use. And those of us who are capable of writing
> need to step up and volunteer to do the writeups. N1ND's time is put to
> much better use making the contest results happen.
>
> FWIW.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave/K8CC
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Jul 26 09:40:24 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <029701c2344a$ad7e8750$0100a8c0@TL01>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207260830540.21444-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> I can't help thinking that kids today are more web-fluent than we were ever
> magazine-fluent. All the kids I mentor (about 5 whiz-kids) do things with
> their hands on a keyboard and mouse that I can't even follow because it
> happens too fast, and every last one of them types faster than any of us
> ever did in High School.
>
Yes, but can they string up a 40 meter dipole? Solder parts onto a PC
poard? (I won't even say surface-mount IC's.) Replace a water pump on an
Intrepid? (I replaced a water pump on a 1963 Chevy when I was 16, but
replacing one on an Intrepid may well be impossible :-)
It is true that computers have become an important part of many peoples'
lives, but there is still the real world out there and I still believe in
Robert Heinlein's long list of "things a man should be able to do" - to
quote him, "specialization is for insects."
>
> PS. Tree, if you don't want to get too close to the lighter fluid with the
> match, you can do this really cool thing with a match and a can of WD-40.
>
Someone showed me that trick once as a possible self-defense device. I
guess as long as the spray is blowing the flame AWAY from the nozzle,
you're OK, but you have to watch it when you stop spraying. :-)
73, Zack W9SZ
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 26 10:15:53 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
References: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207260830540.21444-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <006f01c234af$ffb701e0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Zack asked:
> Yes, but can they string up a 40 meter dipole? Solder parts onto a PC
> poard? (I won't even say surface-mount IC's.) Replace a water pump on an
> Intrepid? (I replaced a water pump on a 1963 Chevy when I was 16, but
> replacing one on an Intrepid may well be impossible :-)
Well, one of them can put up a dipole, I know. He's licensed and has
antennas up. I helped, too. I know another one of them can do his own
major car repairs. I don't know if any of them solder.
It's a good point, Zack, but my comment was mostly aimed at "where
youngsters are most likely to bump into contest results." I think they are
more likely to find it by random webbing than by walking down the street and
seeing QST any more.
Mark, N5OT
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 26 10:26:54 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020726071807.00a75960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <009601c234b0$9bf2e330$0100a8c0@TL01>
>I can't, for the life of me, figure out
>why that should improve timeliness of result
>delivery by more than 15 days.
Um, web-based results? Trey said:
>45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
Now that QST results are history, there's another 45 days right there. The
time is right to try and move closer to quicker results.
Mark, N5OT
>From W4EF at dellroy.com Fri Jul 26 08:29:43 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Michael Tope)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
References: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIELFDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <179001c234b0$e2492c90$6501a8c0@1800XP>
Gary,
If you do a "save as" from internet explorer, it will save everything
you are looking at. I use this to save Ebay transactions that eventually
go away from their website.
73 de Mike, W4EF...................
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 6:21 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
> Dave,
>
> Your expose brought back some personal memories that were very similar.
As
> a kid I, too, would pour over contest line scores and imagine what kind of
> station and op skills were required to be in that top ten list. Or, plot
> how I was going to beat the kid across town who thoroughly trounced me in
a
> SS with only dipoles. I'd analyze the hell of them. Hell, I still do!
>
> Kids of today (kids of all ages, but "kids") will have no problem doing
the
> same thing with the internet results. In fact, the various
> searching/sorting will likely improve it a bit. As we, the contesting
> community, become accustomed to this resource, I'm sure the copy will
> improve as will pictures and station descriptions.
>
> Bud, K2KIR, made an excellent point when he expresses concern about losing
> the line scores as web sites change, systems crash, etc. A hundred
> thousand printed copies probably stand a better chance of being kept safe
> over time than web site content does.
>
> I don't know if ARRL HQ still does this, but years ago they would keep at
> least one copy of every QST (and other League pub) ever published. It was
> neat to visit HQ and be able to pull one of these and gingerly look
through
> it. Something equivalent to that really needs to be implemented for the
> computer line scores and writeups. In many ways these contest results,
> pictures and station descriptions are our history. They show what we
looked
> like (gads!), bring back memories of that equipment we thought was state
of
> the art (we really made Qs with THAT?), and sets a statistical base for
> comparision with future efforts (nr of participants, top scores, scores vs
> sunspot cycle, ...).
>
> What's the best way of preserving web site content for the future? I'm a
> user of the web, not a web site architect. Is it possible to capture a
> "snapshot" of the ARRL site or subset thereof that can be activated later
> and still work? (Note this implies probably storing the computer image on
> which it resides, and maybe at some points the computer itself, so that
> supporting software is part of the archive.) I don't think the equivalent
> of a batch of QSTs in a climate-controlled room is easily accomplished.
>
> But it should be done.
>
> 73,
>
> Gary W2CS
> Apex, NC
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of David A. Pruett
> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:08 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
> >
> >
> > Back in the early seventies when I was a new ham (licensed 2-3 years)
and
> > starting to get very enthused about contesting, the QST contest writeups
> > were a HUGE factor in increasing my knowledge. I was fortunate that the
> > library at community college I attended for the first few years
> > after high
> > school had a rather complete collection of QSTs for the prior
> > fifteen years
> > or so. They were stored in a back room and the librarian would
> > unlock the
> > room and let me sit back there for hours digesting contest results.
> >
> > What was it that attracted my interest - line scores? Heck no!
> > First, it
> > was pictures of contest stations; no, not stations with a DX40 and an
> > NC300, but pictures of competitive stations like W3GRF, K1LPL/3, XE1IIJ,
> > W7RM, etc. It was always interesting to see what these guys were
> > running,
> > which gave me something to aspire to. Second were the tables
> > showing QSOs
> > and mults (varied depending on the contest); again, showing me what was
> > possible. And finally, contest writeups which explained the
> > contest - who
> > beat who, and why; significant scores, antecdotes, etc.; much more than
> > simple recitations of first, second and third places in each category.
> >
> > Its been a number of years since I've read a contest writeup in a
> > magazine
> > which I truly enjoyed. The CQWW writeups, IMHO, are better than the
ARRL
> > ones because K3EST is deeply involved in the contest and understands
what
> > went on. I commend the ARRL recent writeups (particularly the on-line
> > versions) by guest authors which have been a great improvement and will
> > continue to get better as these writers gain experience (that is,
> > assuming
> > they don't burn out and quit). Still there is room for
> > improvement - IMHO
> > there needs to be more pictures and more comparison breakdowns. For
> > example, the January VHF SS writeup lacked the traditional boxes with
top
> > QSOs and grids per band. I'm not sure whether scoring info by band was
> > available in the results - even if so, sorting through hundreds of
scores
> > is a lot of work for the reader when the author might be able to run a
> > database query and format it into a table with little work.
> >
> > I believe that an attractive, interesting article about the results of a
> > contest has a place in QST. I'm not so much against including
> > line scores
> > as I am a proponent of better use of space. I'd prefer to *read
> > about the
> > contest* and opposed to going glassy-eyed over columns of data.
> >
> > At the same time, we contesters need to get off our butts. We need to
> > submit more photos, stories, etc. about our contest efforts as
> > material for
> > the writeup authors to use. And those of us who are capable of writing
> > need to step up and volunteer to do the writeups. N1ND's time is put to
> > much better use making the contest results happen.
> >
> > FWIW.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Dave/K8CC
> >
> >
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 26 08:47:22 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade
In-Reply-To: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020726073248.00af9470@pop3.eskimo.com>
At 06:10 PM 7/25/2002 -0700, Trey Garlough wrote:
Over the past couple of years I have noticed a trend in how contest
logs are submitted. There is one spike that occurs right after the
contest and another spike the occurs right before the log submission
deadline, and during the intervening weeks the robot becomes very
quiet.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I might add that the same exact scenario plays out on the
unofficial 3830 summaries. In the past, I would only post
summaries for a couple weeks after a contest. However, I noticed
we could lose a significant number of participants that always
waited until just before the deadline. For that reason, the
final summary is now always after the log deadline even if
intervening weeks are empty of posts.
I'm sure there are a myriad of reasons for those late logs
but I personally feel 2 weeks and a day are more than sufficient to
get the results in. I also agree it's part of the contest to meet
whatever deadline is set. Seeing line scores six months after
the event (BTW, that's QST - CQ magazine is 12 months!) is like
reading box scores for the local ball team after the season is over.
My input to this "voice" vote - aye! :>)
73
dink, n7wa
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Fri Jul 26 10:06:00 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020726071807.00a75960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <014c01c234b5$f3d3bca0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
> I wouldn't mind 15 days either, but I can't, for the life of me, figure
out
> why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by more than 15
> days. Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented
just
> as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
Excellent point! 15 days is a small saving -- 6-12 months is a big saving.
It would be less disruptive to leave the submission window at 30 days and
have the results posted to the web within 60 days.
BUT what happens if you are not an ARRL member - do you have to wait an
additional 30 days until, for example, the SS results are release from the
members only section? I have never understood the logic of encouraging
everyone to enter contests and then penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30
day waiting period. I wonder if this annoying and discriminating policy will
change with movement of line scores to the web?
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 26 12:07:13 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
scores decision)
In-Reply-To: <009601c234b0$9bf2e330$0100a8c0@TL01>
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020726071807.00a75960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020726110630.025cb280@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 09:26 AM 7/26/02 -0500, N5OT wrote:
> >I can't, for the life of me, figure out
> >why that should improve timeliness of result
> >delivery by more than 15 days.
>
>Um, web-based results? Trey said:
>
> >45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
>
>Now that QST results are history, there's another 45 days right there. The
>time is right to try and move closer to quicker results.
Mark, my point was that all of those things could be (are) happening
regardless of whether the log deadline is 15 or 30 days, so the net
improvement from that single change is only 15 days.
I just think that the 30 to 15-day change needs to be considered on its own
merits.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From k1mk at arrl.net Fri Jul 26 09:18:52 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
Message-ID:
<20020726081853.28731.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Fri, 26 July 2002, Pete Smith wrote:
> but I can't, for the life of me,
> figure out why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by
> more than 15 days.
I think you're right Pete, the big improvement in what Trey is proposing
comes from challenging the log checkers (and maybe even the article
writers) to turn things around ASAP rather than working to the deadlines
imposed by the QST publication schedule.
> Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented
> just as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
Previoulsy, was there anything to prevent scores and even the entire
results article from being prepared well in advance of their required
deadlines?
73,
Mike K1MK
Michael Keane K1MK
k1mk@arrl.net
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>From n6nt at ispwest.com Fri Jul 26 09:38:07 2002
From: n6nt@ispwest.com (Bruce Sawyer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
Message-ID: <000701c234ba$785fc960$ab755142@fpfzqlga>
Dink sez:
>However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
>going on-line in three short words.
>
>
>I like 'em.
Ditto. I don't know who did the web page design on this one, but I think it
is absolutely fabulous. You can ask the page to select entries by a number
of different criteria (e.g. club, power level, category) and then sort the
selected entries by a succession of different criteria. It's trivially easy
to manipulate all the data in just about any way you can imagine, and the
results are clearly presented. Somebody did one heck of a good job in
designing this thing, and I think it's a huge step forward. Matter of
fact, it took me no time at all to see that among the HP entrants in the 10m
contest there was only one case where the US/VE winner beat the DX winner:
K1KI over little 'ole me. Kudos to Tom for that one.
Bruce, N6NT/ZF2NT
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 26 12:27:38 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #285 - 14 msgs
References: <200207261504.g6QF4UhF030447@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <025801c234ba$65f03e40$03010a0a@office1>
Dennis,
My understanding (and I could be wrong) from people I've talked to both at
the League and/or involved in Logbook of the World is that contest logs will
not automatically be sent over to the LotW system. There are a lot of good
reasons for this, but the chief one is that you have to (or will have to)
have a registered digital signature in order to upload logs to LotW for
security reasons. I'm sure many will argue that this is an unnecessary step
or overbearing secruity requirements, but that's the way it's going to be.
But if you think it through... OK, so you email your Cabrillo log in to the
contest desk. What's one more email to the LotW system -- 15 seconds? So
it really shouldn't be a problem as a practical matter.
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Ponsness" <wb0wao@hotmail.com>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL, Line Scores, Etc.
One of the down sides is not seeing you call in print in QST, but I can live
with that. I must say that I am impressed with the content on the ARRL
website. Especially the LCR's - showed me where I needed to improve <grin>
! I can live with the change.
I do agree that the time should be cut to 15 days for submissions AND most
definately that the results be "published" very soon after. 6 months is
waaaay to long to wait. The results should be made available within 30 days
of the event.
Now, when will the 'test logs be incorporated into the "LoTW" project? That
is something that I know I would love to see. If the Q is good enough for
the ARRL to accept as a valid 'test Q, it should be good enough to accept
for WAS, DXCC, etc. I am not a "big gun" in the contesting game (100w,
vertical, wire antennas) and I think I have received a total of a couple
dozen QSL requests from 'test Q's. I can only imagine what a major 'test
station gets!
Anyway, I will still participate in the 'tests, have fun, and give out some
Q's. Look for me in the pileups!
73
Dennis - WB0WAO
(Searchin' and Pouncin')
NJQRP #329
FPQRP #-347
SOC #499
FISTS # 9299
GACW #622
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Jul 26 12:17:04 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <006f01c234af$ffb701e0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207261106040.27046-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> Zack asked:
>
> > Yes, but can they string up a 40 meter dipole? Solder parts onto a PC
> > poard? (I won't even say surface-mount IC's.) Replace a water pump on an
> > Intrepid? (I replaced a water pump on a 1963 Chevy when I was 16, but
> > replacing one on an Intrepid may well be impossible :-)
>
> Well, one of them can put up a dipole, I know. He's licensed and has
> antennas up. I helped, too. I know another one of them can do his own
> major car repairs. I don't know if any of them solder.
>
> It's a good point, Zack, but my comment was mostly aimed at "where
> youngsters are most likely to bump into contest results." I think they are
> more likely to find it by random webbing than by walking down the street and
> seeing QST any more.
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
Yes, it sure is easier to locate them on the web than in other places. I
haven't even looked at any of the local magazine stands in years, so I
don't know if QST or CQ or any ham radio mags are there.
W2EV recently made an example file of what can be done with line scores
on internet that would take up way too much space in a magazine. His
example was for a VHF QSO party. Lots of extra data including antennas
used and gain on each band, elevation above MSL, elevation above average
terrain, power on each band, etc. The extra space isn't so much of a
concern on internet. So lots of pictures can also be posted.
That sort of thing might get some youngsters excited. It would probably
get me excited, too!
73, Zack W9SZ
>From k1mk at arrl.net Fri Jul 26 10:31:19 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
Message-ID:
<20020726093124.7537.h002.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Fri, 26 July 2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> > I can't, for the life of me, figure out
> > why that should improve timeliness of result
> > delivery by more than 15 days.
>
> Um, web-based results? Trey said:
>
> > 45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
>
> Now that QST results are history, there's another 45 days right
> there.
It's unclear to which date that 45 day lead time is measured relative.
The ad deadline for QST is something like 45 days prior to the date of
issue so it makes sense if that was the editorial deadline as well.
For some time contest results articles have been published to the Web
some 4 to 6 weeks prior to their date of issue i.e. results appearing in
September QST are on the Web site now.
So it's likely that most of the delay that could have been attributed to
that 45 day lead has already been history for a while.
Other than an understandable reluctance to freeze changes well in
advance of the deadline for going to production, was there ever anything
standing in the way of early release of results?
73,
Mike K1MK
Michael Keane K1MK
k1mk@arrl.net
________________________________________________
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>From pschipelliti at att.net Fri Jul 26 19:08:56 2002
From: pschipelliti@att.net (pschipelliti@att.net)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Vertical Advice Needed
Message-ID:
<20020726180857.ITIE12658.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>
Hi Gang,
The W1DAD / K1MOM little pistol antenna farm presently
consists of two Carolina Windom Antennas (CW160 special
and CW620) at about 35-40 feet and a Cushcraft R7000+
ground mounted trap vertical.
This week we aquired two other used vertical antennas
that need to be restored. They are a GAP Challenger DX-
VIII and a Butternut HF6V. I have the manuals for both.
The R7000+ needs some work and since we have two more
antennas to "play" with, I want to swap out the R7000+
with either the GAP or the Butternut.
I have read the antenna reviews in the various journals
and looked at all of the eham.net reviews.
If you could put up either antenna, would you restore
the GAP or the Butternut? I would really like to
improve my 80 meter tx/rx so that may influence my
choice.
If you have knowledge or experience concerning these
antennas, which would you install?
I realize that there are many other, preferable antennas
and configurations. Overall, I'm happy with my Carolina
Windoms. I simply want to know which of these two
verticals would you use to replace the R7000+ as a
backup antenna?
Thanks & 73
Peter W1DAD@ARRL.NET
Atkinson, NH
>From wstinson at listenup.com Fri Jul 26 13:16:55 2002
From: wstinson@listenup.com (Walton Stinson, W0CP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <014001c234d0$a362d380$3652a8c0@listenup.com>
Now that the changes to QST are official policy, I'd like to explain why it
happened, what it means, and why I voted as I did.
Ever since the League started doing readership surveys, we have known that
section news and contest line scores have very low readership. We also know
that they serve an essential function, that's why we have kept them. Several
years back, when we began our WEB initiative, we were hopeful that the web site
would eventually reach a level of sophistication and member acceptance that
would allow it to take over some of the "narrow casting" that we have been
forced for so many years to squeeze into QST. We realized then that the WEB
could potentially do a much better job of providing special interest member
communications, since it would be free from the severe restrictions on space
and the deadlines that go along with being in QST, thereby freeing space for
more feature articles in the journal. That day has now arrived.
While this will allow us to reduce our page count, to call this a cost
saving move would miss the real point. This is not a short term cost saving
move that was just thought up. We have been considering this for at least
five years. It is a common sense business decision that makes sense outside
of any cost saving considerations. QST is our most tangible member benefit,
and it's also a general interest magazine (we support some significant special
interests with NCJ, QEX, the WEB, and the DX Annual). We must give our
editorial staff the ability to choose material for QST that is going to have
the
greatest overall appeal to our membership. We know that section news and
contest line scores are important to publish, but pages of numbers and
callsigns don't have much general appeal. Even those who are regular readers
are likely to read just a tiny part of the coverage. Yet, together they consume
over 170 pages each year. Those pages are worth $4,437 each. Do the math. This
is not a trivial allocation of League resources.
Today, we are doing a better job for section news and contest results on the
WEB than we ever could do in QST, and we've just begun. It's simply a more
appropriate medium for delivering the info.We have an exceptional web site,
staffed by real pro's. For contests, we can release results months sooner,
and in searchable, sortable data base files. Now, we will have the freedom
to focus on the how, why, where, and fun of contesting in QST, rather than
publishing rows of numbers and call signs in tiny print. Now, we can use QST
to provide articles about the most interesting section or contest
activities - articles that will actually be read by most of the 160,000 hams
who receive the publication. We will actually have the ability to promote
these activities through expanded feature stories.
There are some who will view this proposal as a sign of decreased support
for contesting or section activities. That is definitely not the case. This
is simply a change. As both management and the board know from experience,
change does not occur easily at the League. Whatever the issue, there is
always a vocal minority that prefers things to stay as they are. And that's
fine. Changes like this shouldn't be easy. However, change is absolutely
necessary for the continued success and viability of any organization,
including the League. We now have the opportunity to improve our reporting of
section activities and contesting, while also improving the value and quality
of QST to the majority of our members. Let's make the most of it.
73, Walt W0CP
ARRL Director (RM)
(and past chairman of the Contest Advisory Committee)
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>From k0emt at dbbear.com Fri Jul 26 19:48:18 2002
From: k0emt@dbbear.com (Bryan - k0emt)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Line Scores - Backup/Alternate DB
In-Reply-To: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIELFDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
References: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIELFDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <20020726.18481889@mis.configured.host>
On 2002-07-26, 08:21:21, "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net> wrote
regarding RE: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores:
> What's the best way of preserving web site content for the future?
Well the web site offers to save the current selection
as either a CSV (Comma Separated Values) or Tab Delimited file.
If results for the entire contest are selected (no filters applied).
You can save the entire contents of either file.
Perhaps, contesting.com could "backup" the results on their website.
Maybe offering an alternate/additional interface to viewing/sorting?
If a database were to be built including all contests,
it could offer a way to see individual results over the years
in the same contest. It'd provide for numerous possibilities.
Of course this interface should provide for CSV, TAB and XML output.
73,
Bryan ? k0emt
http://www.dbbear.com/k0emt/
>From n2mg at contesting.com Fri Jul 26 12:52:51 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade
Message-ID:
<20020726115252.12010.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
N4ZR wrote:
> (M)y point was that all of those things could be
> (are) happening regardless of whether the log
> deadline is 15 or 30 days, so the net
> improvement from that single change is only 15 days.
For linescores on the web:
time-to-publish = DEADLINE + PROCESSING.
Currently DEADLINE = 30 days and according to Trey,
PROCESSING = 15 days. So the total is 45 days. Cut
DEADLINE to 15 days and we get a 33% improvement in
time-to-publish.
> I just think that the 30 to 15-day change needs to
> be considered on its own merits.
Suggesting the 30-to-15 day change only makes sense in
the aftermath of the recent reduction in publishing
leadtime enabled by the removal of line scores from
QST. Make this suggestion 6 months ago, and 15 days
would be virtually meaningless. Today, not so. And
in a way, it is standing on its own merits - the rest
of the improvement in score-publishing time is pretty
much a done deal. All that's left is the deadline.
73 Mike N2MG
________________________________________________
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>From k8cc at comcast.net Fri Jul 26 15:51:07 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
In-Reply-To: <003f01c23470$f16980c0$6a2745cf@default>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020726143124.009b82a0@mail.comcast.net>
Speaking as another logchecker, I agree totally with the comments made by
K4JRB. If we are going to have fifteen day log deadlines and thirty days
for results, then we're going to have to live with the following realities:
1. Not enough time to guarantee arrival for overseas logs coming by postal
mail, whether on paper or floppy disk. I think that we here in America
take e-mail for granted and I for one am not willing to preclude entries
from stations who for whatever reason cannot electronically submit.
2. The entrant will have to be responsible for submitting a log in the
correct format. This is not a minor problem - in the 2001 ARRL 10M
Contest, 200 of the 2100+ electronic logs had errors as submitted which
would have precluded them being included in the results, and many of these
were big guns. Most of these are cockpit errors, which tell me that the
fast majority of entrants never look at their log files before mailing them
in. In the case of the 10M contest, fixing these problem logs (manual
editing, requesting new logs) took over 30 man-hours. With the compressed
timetables being proposed, anything more than minor corrections will go
into the bit bucket.
As Trey pointed out, the web site results could be updated for late logs
and corrections. However, if we allow for this what point is there to
publishing results after 30 days when the standings might change after 40
days? Furthermore, when is the cutoff to issue awards?
My point here is that there is more to this that simply decided to compress
the timeframe. If you want fast, recognize that there will be more
responsibility on you, the entrant if you want to be sure to make the results.
73,
Dave/K8CC
>From olinger at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 26 15:56:51 2002
From: olinger@bellsouth.net (olinger@bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
Message-ID: <20020726185651.GPWC1173.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@localhost>
ARRL will only take cabrillo, and they have a robot which bounces the log email
if something is amiss.
Otherwise they have the same problems you do.
I think that eventually the idea has to go away that there is someone at Log
Central who will convert and/or clean it up for you no matter how screwed up.
Go to cabrillo, period, clone ARRL's robot and bounce stuff that isn't in
format. No paper logs. 15 days. Run the programs and publish. 30 days.
Personally, I think it is arrogant and careless for people submitting logs to
think that there is a crew there just drooling to type in their logs and clean
up for them. Write a note back and ask them if their mother still picks up
their socks and underwear.
When all logs were paper it was a different deal, but it is a real stretch to
think that someone does not have access to a computer somewhere. Maybe
exceptions here and there, but 10% of the logs? Just refuse. PC's are
ubiquitous. Leave it to the log submitter to figure out how to get it into
email.
If one of our local contesters was having problems, the local chapter of PVRC
would do something to help out. One of our guys. Our business. Take care of our
own and all of that to keep up the club score.
Frankly there is enough stuff around, that in the rare case a DX type just
couldn't swing it, some number of us would put something together and SEND THEM
a PC, rather than lose the mult in the contest.
Have you seen the photo of an African native, nose ring, spectacular tribal
dress and headgear, spear, and all, setting down with his Mac powerbook, going
through his email?
TIME TO MOVE ON.
Things we do repeatedly on short notice and work around them when we're on
trips, etc:
Pay the mortgage
Pay the power bill
Pay the phone bill
Pay the water bill
Pay taxes
Renew driver's license
Renew car tags
Carry out the garbage for the collector
etc, etc, etc.
15 days to log, 30 days to final results. Yea. Bring it on.
73,
Guy, K2AV
>
> From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
>
> I can't speak for any contest but the CQ 160 Contests. Shortening the
> deadline makes sense
> if and only if the following occurs:
> All logs are submitted electronically and are in PROPER cabrillo
> format.
>
> For the 2002 CQ 160 Contests I have received 438 SSB logs and 889 CW Logs
> plus check logs
> plus check logs. Lets look at the facts! 46 Paper logs were received on
> SSB and 77 on CW
> Most were small logs but several on both modes were significant. There
> were 40 old format electronic logs received on SSB and 89 on CW. Of these
> all but 5 were e-mailed. Of the rest supposedly cabrillo I find that 1 out
> of 5 do not check as cabrillo and have to be converted before
> running through the crass check/log check programs. On top of this I
> noticed that 18 on SSB and 31 on CW were lacking cabrillo elements as I
> logged them in. We are now up to a significant number of logs in both
> modes.
>
> Here are some of the problems:
>
> 1. The name of the contest in the cabrillo summary are wrong. There is
> an official name for most contests and for me its either CQ-160-CW or
> CQ-160-SSB. Anything else and its not cabrillo.
> 2. The category has fields missing or out of order.
> 3. The fields in the log portion are out of order or run together. If
> the mode and date are run together the log checker tells me mode and or date
> is not identified. I then put the log aside until I can put it in Wordpad
> and edit it to get correct fields.
>
> I suggest that every contestant should look at the log and if you are not
> sure the cabrillo is correct then run it through one of several cabrillo
> converter programs. I do find that CT, TR, and Writelog (recent versions)
> do produce good cabrillo.
>
> I just finished the SSB logs except for three problem logs and it took a
> full two weeks working several hours a day. With 100% cabrillo I could have
> checked the logs in a day and 70% of that is set up!. I now face a month of
> grinding through the CW logs. Get the log in proper format and the programs
> will do the rest!
>
> I am sure the CQ WW, WPX, and ARRL contests must face these problems.
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
>
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>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Fri Jul 26 21:16:44 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20020725074143.00a7c830@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <VA.00000008.00f44c39@gw3njw>
> However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
> going on-line in three short words.
>
>
> I like 'em.
>
Erm, am I being dense here, is there a way to separate the scores by
continent as there was in QST? That is invaluable.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
Contest Cambria-http://www.gw7x.org
>From k5zd at charter.net Fri Jul 26 21:10:28 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
In-Reply-To: <014c01c234b5$f3d3bca0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDEEEODLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
You said:
> I have never understood the logic of encouraging everyone to enter
contests and then
> penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30 day waiting period.
Maybe to encourage people to join the ARRL? Seems a reasonable goal since
they are sponsoring the event...
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Sylvan Katz
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 15:06 PM
> To: Contest Reflector
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
> scores decision)
>
>
> > I wouldn't mind 15 days either, but I can't, for the life of me, figure
> out
> > why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by more than 15
> > days. Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented
> just
> > as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
>
> Excellent point! 15 days is a small saving -- 6-12 months is a big saving.
> It would be less disruptive to leave the submission window at 30 days and
> have the results posted to the web within 60 days.
>
> BUT what happens if you are not an ARRL member - do you have to wait an
> additional 30 days until, for example, the SS results are release from the
> members only section? I have never understood the logic of encouraging
> everyone to enter contests and then penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30
> day waiting period. I wonder if this annoying and discriminating
> policy will
> change with movement of line scores to the web?
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
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> Saskatoon, SK
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> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 26 17:18:39 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
References: <200207261939.g6QJd3hF019844@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <02df01c234e3$01495980$03010a0a@office1>
Sylvan,
At the moment, the web results are available "early" to League members and
are not available to the public until approx. 30 days after being published
in QST. Obviously this is an attempt to encourage people to join the
League.
However, that does not mean that this will continue once the line scores
move to the web. If you think about it, since the line scores will never be
published again after 1 Jan 2003, there is no longer a purpose to the delay.
So, I would not be at all surprised if this policy changes after the 1st.
But that is a guess on my part -- Dan N1ND up at ARRL Hq would be a better
person to ask that of.
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
From: Sylvan Katz <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
To: Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Sylvan Katz <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
> I wouldn't mind 15 days either, but I can't, for the life of me, figure
out
> why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by more than 15
> days. Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented
just
> as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
Excellent point! 15 days is a small saving -- 6-12 months is a big saving.
It would be less disruptive to leave the submission window at 30 days and
have the results posted to the web within 60 days.
BUT what happens if you are not an ARRL member - do you have to wait an
additional 30 days until, for example, the SS results are release from the
members only section? I have never understood the logic of encouraging
everyone to enter contests and then penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30
day waiting period. I wonder if this annoying and discriminating policy will
change with movement of line scores to the web?
.. sylvan
????
----------------
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Saskatoon, SK
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 26 17:27:36 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207261939.g6QJd3hF019844@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <02e001c234e3$0442c360$03010a0a@office1>
The long lead times go back to the early days of most contests when all of
the logs were submitted on (horrors!) paper, including dupe sheets, and
hand-written to boot. The long time lags were once required to give the
poor souls on the contest committees time to process (by hand) the logs and
assemble the summaries.
Given that the vast majority of us now use digital means to keep and submit
our contest logs, and given that some format standardization (ie CT, TRLog,
Cabrillo, etc. formats) can easily be mandated, which in turn implies that
more automation can be used to do some of the intial log comparisons... it
now seems obvious to conclude that the long lead times are no longer
neccesary for the vast majority.
I am not entirely comfortable with shaving the entry deadline from one month
to 15 days, though. There are enough extenuating circumstances where I
could see some problems. However, since we ought to be saving many months
in time between the easier methods of compiling the logs, and not having to
wait an additional 45 days between submission-to-printer, printing, and
mailing the magazine, I suggest we hold off on shaving the deadlines until
we see how much of an effect the other time savings has.
In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys? Tell me if
I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the contest
instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
To: swca@swbell.net
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
From: "Michael Keane, K1MK" <k1mk@arrl.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
On Fri, 26 July 2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> > I can't, for the life of me, figure out
> > why that should improve timeliness of result
> > delivery by more than 15 days.
>
> Um, web-based results? Trey said:
>
> > 45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
>
> Now that QST results are history, there's another 45 days right
> there.
It's unclear to which date that 45 day lead time is measured relative.
The ad deadline for QST is something like 45 days prior to the date of
issue so it makes sense if that was the editorial deadline as well.
For some time contest results articles have been published to the Web
some 4 to 6 weeks prior to their date of issue i.e. results appearing in
September QST are on the Web site now.
So it's likely that most of the delay that could have been attributed to
that 45 day lead has already been history for a while.
Other than an understandable reluctance to freeze changes well in
advance of the deadline for going to production, was there ever anything
standing in the way of early release of results?
73,
Mike K1MK
Michael Keane K1MK
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>From tavan at tibco.com Fri Jul 26 14:00:17 2002
From: tavan@tibco.com (Rick Tavan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <3D41AA51.2060701@tibco.com>
Bravo, Trey! Great proposal. Keep working with CQ and ARRL to accelerate
both online and paper publication. In business there is a truism that
the value of an incentive is inversely proportional to the time between
the period of performance and the reward. Faster publication will incent
the contesting community to do more, more often, and that will be good
for the sport.
/Rick N6XI
Trey Garlough wrote:
>Many years ago I had a dream that we would be able to operate contests
>and then see the final results immediately after the events were over.
>This will not be achievable if we rely on QST as a delivery mechanism.
>...
>If we eliminate #1 by publishing on the web and cut #2 from 30 to 15
>days, then I believe we can *tranquilly* release the complete final
>results of Sweepstakes within 30 days of the contest. ... Why wait until June
>to read the magazine when you can
>see the results on the web in December?
>
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Palo Alto, CA 94304-1213
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408-896-0476 Cell
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 26 19:08:42 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
In-Reply-To: <02e001c234e3$0442c360$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIEMCDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
> In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> Tell me if
> I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the contest
> instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
>
>
No, it's not good enough.
I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a tad
more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now have,
15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves most of
that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal and
then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
Gary W2CS
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Fri Jul 26 17:09:30 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDEEEODLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Message-ID: <00de01c234f1$1d8ae600$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
>Maybe to encourage people to join the ARRL? Seems a reasonable goal since
>they are sponsoring the event...
A more reasonable goal would be to encourage more participation in contests.
I doubt if this is accomplished by penalizing non-ARRL entries. In some
contest I understand that now the DX logs account for 50% of the logs - many
or most of which are not the contestants are not ARRL members. (see
http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf ). They
are penalized by a 30 day policy that with holds results --- now really does
this inequity increase membership or encourage greater participation?
I kind doubt it. On the other hand I have heard a rumor that this inequity
is likely to disappear with the movement of line scores to the web. This
would be great news for the international contest community!
Now we wait and see :-)
.. sylvan
????
----------------
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Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 26 16:27:54 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <VA.00000008.00f44c39@gw3njw>
References: <5.1.0.14.1.20020725074143.00a7c830@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020726152010.00af88f0@pop3.eskimo.com>
There is no continental breakdown as yet but I don't know why
that couldn't be added. I'm sure the data is there. (Now's the
time to get what we want.)
For now, go into Section, select NON-USA (It's not obvious it's there
the first time) - then sort by section. You will have a country by
country breakdown. I recommend the Tab or Comma delimited download
(it's quick) so you can review all the results without paging.
73
dink
At 08:16 PM 7/26/2002 +0000, Clive Whelan wrote:
> However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
> going on-line in three short words.
>
>
> I like 'em.
>
Erm, am I being dense here, is there a way to separate the scores by
continent as there was in QST? That is invaluable.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
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>From K7LXC at aol.com Fri Jul 26 19:44:20 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Vertical Advice Needed
Message-ID: <91.2088e979.2a732ac4@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/26/02 11:35:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
pschipelliti@att.net writes:
> If you could put up either antenna, would you restore
> the GAP or the Butternut? I would really like to
> improve my 80 meter tx/rx so that may influence my
> choice.
>
> If you have knowledge or experience concerning these
> antennas, which would you install?
We have published an HF vertical on-the-air comparison report - it's
available from <A HREF="http://www.championradio.com";>www.championradio.com
</A> and includes both of the above antennas.
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
Champion Radio Products
>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Sat Jul 27 00:30:44 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20020725074143.00a7c830@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <VA.00000009.0013eed6@gw3njw>
> However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
> going on-line in three short words.
>
>
> I like 'em.
>
Erm, am I being dense here, is there a way to separate the scores by
continent as there was in QST? That is invaluable.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
Contest Cambria-http://www.gw7x.org
>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Sat Jul 27 01:04:56 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20020726152010.00af88f0@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <VA.0000000b.00333533@gw3njw>
> For now, go into Section, select NON-USA (It's not obvious it's there
> the first time) - then sort by section
>
Thanks, that's summat. Didn't even know there was a "NON-USA" section!
On my Cabrillo I have to put "DX" as a section, perhaps I can try that
too.
However, and I hope the league have the gains up, the Web version can
only be of real value if it can be broken down into continents. We have
a saying " don't throw the baby out with the bath water" ( perhaps you
do too; not sure) and this seems apposite to the current situation.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
Contest Cambria-http://www.gw7x.org
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Sat Jul 27 01:04:50 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores
References: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIEMCDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <3D41E3A2.1D554FE5@directvinternet.com>
Something funny about this message. How can W2CS write both, which are
direct opposites of each other?
Assumming someone quoted someone incorrectly, I don't like the use of
the word "force" in regard to anyone. We've improved getting the final
results by 4 to 6 months. Why don't we get a little more input on how
long it takes remote DX stations to get their logs in?
Old saying, "In any change, make haste slowly"
73
Ed
Gary Ferdinand W2CS wrote:
>
> > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > Tell me if
> > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the contest
> > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> >
> >
>
> No, it's not good enough.
>
> I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a tad
> more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now have,
> 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves most of
> that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
>
> You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
> When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal and
> then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
>
> I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
>
> Gary W2CS
>From slazar19 at sgi.net Fri Jul 26 21:36:21 2002
From: slazar19@sgi.net (Spencer Lazar)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Good Grief
In-Reply-To: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDEEEODLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
References: <014c01c234b5$f3d3bca0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20020726203621.0083f700@mail.stargate.net>
Good Grief, two posting from K5ZD on the reflector within in a week,
what's this world coming to?
Randy, you must have too much time on your hands!
I suppose when real broad band gets here, computers will look
like radios and we will be contesting, except in the setups
we will selecting antennas, locations ect. ect. ect and most
importantly a level playing field. WRTC will be a dinosaur
of the past.
One thing I would like to see in contests is a class for vintage
radios, seperate tx/rx (vacuum tubes), knife switches and wire
antennas, computerless operating and the clacking of dowkey 110
vac relays with all the buzzing.
Spike W9XR
At 08:10 PM 7/26/02 -0000, you wrote:
>You said:
>> I have never understood the logic of encouraging everyone to enter
>contests and then
>> penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30 day waiting period.
>
>Maybe to encourage people to join the ARRL? Seems a reasonable goal since
>they are sponsoring the event...
>
>Randy, K5ZD
>From k2av at contesting.com Fri Jul 26 21:36:45 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
References: <4.2.0.58.20020726143124.009b82a0@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <006001c23505$af8801f0$0500a8c0@swift>
I understand the thought, but does it have a multiplier against it in
the significant range.
Do you know of ANY international business that uses real post to move
INFORMATION around. An international business that can't move it's
information electronically is very quickly a bankrupt business. If I
wanted to get a floppy to a friend in EU, I would email it.
GOODS move by post, not INFORMATION, not any more.
Think about it. Here's a guy that has a pc and a logging program
likely. Costs him a quid or worse to physically mail a floppy to the
US, or he can take the floppy to a friend's house, and email the file,
for free.
Stories are everywhere about how having the internet has allowed
out-back businesses to sell to the world. Where are these people you
are worried about precluding? Let them exercise some initiative and
creativity.
A big gun can't get his log right. And it's the log checker's
responsibility to fix it? And the fact it's a big gun makes his gorked
log more worthy than a little guy's?
If a robot bounces said gorked log, the big gun knows right away.
Cabrillo is new, but everybody is learning it. And the robot is
democratic. It bounces all gorked logs.
The first time that a big gun doesn't get the log in on time, and all
his operators lose their spot in the standings, will be the LAST time
the big gun doesn't get his log in on time. Boss man will never hear
the end of it. (It may be W3LPL in the listings, but the score belongs
to the TROOPS.)
People can handle it.
LETS MOVE ON.
73,
Guy, K2AV
----- Original Message -----
From: "David A. Pruett" <k8cc@comcast.net>
To: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>;
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
> Speaking as another logchecker, I agree totally with the comments
made by
> K4JRB. If we are going to have fifteen day log deadlines and thirty
days
> for results, then we're going to have to live with the following
realities:
>
> 1. Not enough time to guarantee arrival for overseas logs coming by
postal
> mail, whether on paper or floppy disk. I think that we here in
America
> take e-mail for granted and I for one am not willing to preclude
entries
> from stations who for whatever reason cannot electronically submit.
>
> 2. The entrant will have to be responsible for submitting a log in
the
> correct format. This is not a minor problem - in the 2001 ARRL 10M
> Contest, 200 of the 2100+ electronic logs had errors as submitted
which
> would have precluded them being included in the results, and many of
these
> were big guns. Most of these are cockpit errors, which tell me that
the
> fast majority of entrants never look at their log files before
mailing them
> in. In the case of the 10M contest, fixing these problem logs
(manual
> editing, requesting new logs) took over 30 man-hours. With the
compressed
> timetables being proposed, anything more than minor corrections will
go
> into the bit bucket.
>
> As Trey pointed out, the web site results could be updated for late
logs
> and corrections. However, if we allow for this what point is there
to
> publishing results after 30 days when the standings might change
after 40
> days? Furthermore, when is the cutoff to issue awards?
>
> My point here is that there is more to this that simply decided to
compress
> the timeframe. If you want fast, recognize that there will be more
> responsibility on you, the entrant if you want to be sure to make
the results.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave/K8CC
>
>
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>From k1ir at designet.com Fri Jul 26 21:42:57 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 15 days is not enough time
Message-ID: <wix08z5phfkjln4.260720022042@designet-jsi>
I agree that making time-to-published-results as short as possible is a great
goal. But, two weeks is too tight a restriction in too many circumstances.
DXpedition groups commonly spend the week following the contest on vacation
without internet access, leaving only one more weekend to get it done. Multi's
often have technical problems that make assembling the final log a challenge.
And, log submission by non-English speaking DX participants and novices who are
unfamiliar with contest software is not trivial. And there are those of us who
want to decompress and have nothing to do with the radio or the log for a while
after a big effort. So, I think a month is pretty reasonable.
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From n2mg at eham.net Fri Jul 26 22:52:59 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
References: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDEEEODLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
<00de01c234f1$1d8ae600$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <003801c23510$56cb2d20$3201a8c0@mikehome>
VE5ZX wrote:
> >Maybe to encourage people to join the ARRL? Seems a reasonable goal
since
> >they are sponsoring the event...
>
> A more reasonable goal would be to encourage more participation in
contests.
I don't think this is what makes a "membership" organization tick. ARRL
sponsors the contests precisely TO attract membership. They don't have
members so they can sponsor contests. In fact, there are plenty at HQ who
would rather not have contests at all.
> I doubt if this is accomplished by penalizing non-ARRL entries.
Since we're talking about lemonade, I'd say they don't penalize non-member
entries, but rather, they reward member entries.
I'm sure it's no small thorn in the ARRL's side that non-members expect to
be treated with the same respect that members are. Can't really fault the
League for that. And I really don't fault non-USA folks for not joining the
ARRL but I do fault them for expecting equal treatment (maybe that's the
American in me talking?). Sure, ARRL "needs" as many DX ops as possible to
operate in their contests in order to make the contests attractive enough
that folks will have fun - fun which will inspire some of these same folks
to become members. If they ever conclude that fun-contests does not equate
to new-members, bye-bye (ARRL sponsorship of) contests.
73 Mike N2MG
>From k1mk at arrl.net Fri Jul 26 23:41:57 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade
In-Reply-To: <20020726115252.12010.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.critic
alpath.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020726220631.0276d8e0@mail.peoplepc.com>
At 02:52 PM 7/26/02, Mike Gilmer - N2MG wrote:
>Suggesting the 30-to-15 day change only makes sense in
>the aftermath of the recent reduction in publishing
>leadtime enabled by the removal of line scores from
>QST. Make this suggestion 6 months ago, and 15 days
>would be virtually meaningless. Today, not so.
Nine months ago one could have made the suggestion that the final SS scores
be prepared and ready to go onto the Web site in mid-January rather than
waiting until mid-April when the results article was going to be needed by
the printer.
In that context a 30-to-15 day change would also have made sense. And it
would have raised the same issues now being brought up in regards to
accommodating paper logs and disks arriving via the mail and the loss of
schedule margin for dealing with anomalies.
73,
Mike K1MK
Michael Keane, K1MK
k1mk@alum.mit.edu
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 26 23:44:28 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207270224.g6R2O1hF032150@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <05da01c23517$89c05b40$03010a0a@office1>
Sorry Gary, but you and I will disagree with this one for now.
Considering the outcry last year when (under the dubious excuse of safety of
the mail) CQ Magazine forced all of us to enter only by electronic means, to
now propose to "force" contest entrants to rush in their logs and then
"force" the contest committee to rush compilation in another 2 weeks strikes
me as being too hasty.
Are we all so impatient that reducing the turn-around time between contest &
results from 6-8 months for the ARRL, and 8-10 months for CQ (just to pick
on two) to under 2 months isn't enough, but we're going to try to force-feed
it to 6 or even 4 weeks?
Remember, we're not dealing with a "closed" environment like the WRTC
competitions, where you have a relative small number of stations (50 or
less) competing for 24 hours. Compiling those results in a few hours is a
piece of cake. We're talking about 48 hour contests that literally involve
thousands, if not tens of thousands, of amateurs -- many of whom never have
or will send in logs, which always leave question marks about "uniques" and
"busted calls" and other potential problems to sort out.
Further, you must remember that in much of the world outside of North
America and Europe, Internet access is not as accessible nor as cheap as it
is here. I would not be at all surprised to learn that there are many
active contesters who have a computer in the shack, yet prefer to mail their
results in via a disk for whatever reasons.
I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
positive way to encourage more potential contesters. I think if we rise the
bar too high, we make the goal too difficult, it will do the exact opposite
by discouraging potential contesters and some of the active and less active
ones out there.
I also would question the ability to compile scores, even with automation,
in a day or two. Pending data to prove that one way or another, that
strikes me as being more than a bit optimistic. Can someone on one of the
major contest committees comment on whether or not automation makes one or
two days practical?
I am not saying that Trey's proposed 15 day deadline is a bad idea. But I
don't think we're quite ready for it yet. One thing at a time.
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
> In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> Tell me if
> I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the contest
> instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
>
>
No, it's not good enough.
I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a tad
more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now have,
15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves most of
that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal and
then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
Gary W2CS
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>From W1HIJCW at aol.com Sat Jul 27 00:16:02 2002
From: W1HIJCW@aol.com (W1HIJCW@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Vertical Advice Needed
Message-ID: <19b.5ed2d32.2a736a72@aol.com>
Dear Peter,
I don't have any experience with the GAP, but do have extensive experience
with the HF6V, the HF9V and the HF2V. I've installed and tuned probably 6 or
8 HF9's for various people, a few HF6's and at least 3 HF2's that I can
remember.
Recently when I moved, I had to make a choice about a multiband antenna that
would be a temporary solution until a tower, etc. could be installed. I chose
the HF6V to be roof mounted with the base at about 28 feet AGL. Why?
My experience was that with the Butternut antennas, I had the option of
optimizing the tuning on a band by band basis and found very little
interaction between bands that I could not eliminate. For example, my current
installation has a total of 5 radials. One is a non-resonant piece (50 feet
long) of 3 inch wide and 3 mil thick copper foil which runs for some 42 feet
along the ridge pole of the house, it then makes a right angle turn to go
down the roof for the remaining 8 feet. The other radials were "rough cut" to
be approximate 1/4 wavelengths on 40, 30, 20, and 10 meters. They are
arranged symmetrically around the base of the antenna.
The result, after tuning and adjusting the coils at the base of the HF6 was
that on all bands (except the extreme end of 10 meters) the SWR (measured at
the end of the series matching transformer with an MFJ 269, and by the SWR
meter in my FT1000D) was less than 2 to 1 and in most cases was less than 1.5
to 1. That allows me to run the setup without using the tuner in the "D" (or
in my FT990 for that matter).
Setup and tuning time once the antenna was assembled was less than 2 hours.
The antenna is mounted to a wooden chimney with Rat Shack wall mounts.
The HF6 and 9 do have a weak point which is the connection between the two
ends of the series matching transformer and the feedline and antenna
respectively. Butternut was kind enough to replace mine at no cost, but I
would suggest that you replace the PL259 on one end and the "stacons" or
other connectors on the other.
BTW, I bought an HF2V and took it with me to French Polynesia to use during
the 2001 CQ WPX CW contest. It was mounted directly in the lagoon in about 18
inches of water and fed with 150 feet of RG8X (1/3 of which laid in the water
for 10 days). Never have I had an antenna perform so well on 80 and 40.
Similarly, we took an HF2V to Puerto Rico for the recent effort in Field Day
as NP4A. It was beach mounted and had two elevated radials for 80 meters.
Similar results (although not as good as mounting in the water!) :>)
Hope these comments help a bit. As usual YMMV.
73 es GL de Bill, W1HIJ/6
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>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 27 01:49:41 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
In-Reply-To: <05da01c23517$89c05b40$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIEMHDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Ron, we agree on one point. We disagree with each other -HI. Although I
like the "for now" part :-) To your points:
1. Outcry: People hate change. We live with it and move on. This is no
different.
2. Yup, I'm that impatient. The technology exists. We should set a good
goal.
3. Uniques: Yup. There will always be question marks. Do the best we can.
4. Rest of world: I don't think it's the problem you and a few others
have voiced. I know of several stations that are rare that are club
stations. Internet access is not a problem. We're not always talking about
individual stations in some primitive, isolated area. Those are more likely
DXpeditions and my cruise ship analogy applies.
5. Encouraging others: I think "immediate" results-reporting provides
substantial encouragement. It's the immediate feedback or reward that
others have more lucidly described than I to which I refer. I agree with
those sentiments.
Good discussion, this. Whether it's 4 weeks, 6 or 8, in the end it's a
great improvement. I think we should do what we can to aim for 4 weeks with
a 15 day turn-in requirement, as Trey proposed. If we end up having to
delay it a bit with a contest or two for good reason, I doubt you'd hear
many complaints! (Hmm, well not from me anyway.)
Bedtime. 73 all.
Gary W2CS
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ron Notarius WN3VAW
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 10:44 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
> scores decision)
>
>
> Sorry Gary, but you and I will disagree with this one for now.
>
> Considering the outcry last year when (under the dubious excuse
> of safety of
> the mail) CQ Magazine forced all of us to enter only by
> electronic means, to
> now propose to "force" contest entrants to rush in their logs and then
> "force" the contest committee to rush compilation in another 2
> weeks strikes
> me as being too hasty.
>
> Are we all so impatient that reducing the turn-around time
> between contest &
> results from 6-8 months for the ARRL, and 8-10 months for CQ (just to pick
> on two) to under 2 months isn't enough, but we're going to try to
> force-feed
> it to 6 or even 4 weeks?
>
> Remember, we're not dealing with a "closed" environment like the WRTC
> competitions, where you have a relative small number of stations (50 or
> less) competing for 24 hours. Compiling those results in a few hours is a
> piece of cake. We're talking about 48 hour contests that
> literally involve
> thousands, if not tens of thousands, of amateurs -- many of whom
> never have
> or will send in logs, which always leave question marks about
> "uniques" and
> "busted calls" and other potential problems to sort out.
>
> Further, you must remember that in much of the world outside of North
> America and Europe, Internet access is not as accessible nor as
> cheap as it
> is here. I would not be at all surprised to learn that there are many
> active contesters who have a computer in the shack, yet prefer to
> mail their
> results in via a disk for whatever reasons.
>
> I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
> positive way to encourage more potential contesters. I think if
> we rise the
> bar too high, we make the goal too difficult, it will do the
> exact opposite
> by discouraging potential contesters and some of the active and
> less active
> ones out there.
>
> I also would question the ability to compile scores, even with automation,
> in a day or two. Pending data to prove that one way or another, that
> strikes me as being more than a bit optimistic. Can someone on one of the
> major contest committees comment on whether or not automation makes one or
> two days practical?
>
> I am not saying that Trey's proposed 15 day deadline is a bad idea. But I
> don't think we're quite ready for it yet. One thing at a time.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the
> hypocrisies of our
> time?" -- Howard Beale
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
> decision)
>
> > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > Tell me if
> > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after
> the contest
> > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> >
> >
>
> No, it's not good enough.
>
> I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all
> to be a tad
> more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation
> we now have,
> 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It
> leaves most of
> that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
>
> You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
> When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely
> difficult goal and
> then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
>
> I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
>
> Gary W2CS
>
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>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Sat Jul 27 02:05:11 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Recruiting 101
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207270041390.22765-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
I'm now involved with recruiting members for next weekend's NAQP CW
contest. I'm having some success recently recruiting people to operate
the CW Sprint and NAQP contests, and thought I might pass on some hints in
hopes that other clubs will also have success recruiting members for
contests.
1) Announce your intentions here on CQ-Contest and club mail reflectors.
Normally I find this to be mildly successful. Be sure to mention that you
are not just looking for serious operators... that you are fielding teams
of part-timer ops too.
2) The best technique I have found is contacting each person directly by
e-mail personally. I follow the same method as is #1 and normally put in
some kind of note about us trying to show up some other club or something
else that we can all get our heads around.
3) Finding Members. I first look at old results for the contest in
question. Then I move to other contests. For instance, I've had really
good luck this time recruiting guys that operate the ARRL 160 and 10 meter
contests as well as CW SS. The results are on the web, and almost
everyone has an email address that can easily be had on eHam.net or
QRZ.com. These are also contests that are more domestic in nature, which
is right up the alley of the NAQP.
4) Finding More Members. Team work! I ask everyone on our teams to
recruit just one other person to be a member of the teams. This has
worked very well in the past, as there is no way I can know every
potential operator in the 4th call area.
5) Organization. I'm now keeping everyone's callsign, name, etc, in a
database so I can quickly refer to it the next running of the contest.
6) Post cards. Some of the Sprint regulars have recently taken up writing
potential operators post cards in an effort to remind them of a contest.
I personally find email with the expressed intent of joining a team is
more effective.
7) Team placement competition. Back in the early 80s there was this
phenom called the Midwest Popguns organzied by Joe (W8LNO) and Tom
(N0SS) for the CW Sprint. Team placement was based on your finish in the
prior contest. The Popguns fieleded several teams, and I recall being
highly motivated to move from team last to team next. We are just
starting with this here in W4 for next month's Sprint.
So far I have 22 guys signed up for next weekend. The TCG and FCG are
also fielding at least 2 teams each. I figure we'll have more than 50
guys from W4 active to some degree or another! Now think how much fun the
contest would be if this could be nearly duplicated across 10 call areas!
73
Bill, W4AN
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 27 02:06:20 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores
In-Reply-To: <3D41E3A2.1D554FE5@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFAEMIDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Ed,
I think you're attributing the first part of your quoted text to me, which
is incorrect. That was the text that my posting was in reference to. Note
that first paragraph as an extra set of ">" symbols in front of it.
It is common practice on the internet to include a piece of the posting to
which you're replying so that readers of your reply have a context. It
would appear, Ed, that you have misinterpreted this context material, to
which I was replying, as my own text.
Rather, I was writing in rebuttal.
As to making haste slowly in any change...gosh, that saying must be
pre-high-tech age. I can't imagine any company with serious competition in
today's markets having such a philosophy; they'd be out of business with
much haste. My mindset is influenced by that, I'm afraid. So I tend to try
to accomplish a difficult goal, risking some degree of failure, rather than
achieve a comfortable goal, and risk achieving mediocrity, instead. A
matter of perspective.
An old saying: "He who hesitates is lost."
So much for ancient pithy proverbs :)
73,
Gary W2CS
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of K4SB
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 8:05 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores
>
>
> Something funny about this message. How can W2CS write both, which are
> direct opposites of each other?
>
> Assumming someone quoted someone incorrectly, I don't like the use of
> the word "force" in regard to anyone. We've improved getting the final
> results by 4 to 6 months. Why don't we get a little more input on how
> long it takes remote DX stations to get their logs in?
>
> Old saying, "In any change, make haste slowly"
>
> 73
> Ed
>
> Gary Ferdinand W2CS wrote:
> >
> > > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to
> assemble and
> > > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > > Tell me if
> > > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months
> after the contest
> > > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > No, it's not good enough.
> >
> > I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> > entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all
> to be a tad
> > more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation
> we now have,
> > 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> > that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It
> leaves most of
> > that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
> >
> > You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on
> it later.
> > When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely
> difficult goal and
> > then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
> >
> > I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
> >
> > Gary W2CS
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>From kl7y at alaska.net Sat Jul 27 07:33:28 2002
From: kl7y@alaska.net (Dan Robbins)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 15 days too short
Message-ID: <3D4230A8.37A901E3@alaska.net>
I'm glad that so many think 15 days is long enough, but we don't need a
duration that covers the requirements of most of the contesters, we need
one that covers ALL contesters. I've had to ask for two extensions in
the last several years and that's with existing 30 day log submission
deadlines. It wasn't too long ago I helped a first time contest entrant
unscramble a log - just in time to beat the 30 day deadline. 30 days is
just fine, leave it alone.
Dan KL7Y
>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 27 01:27:49 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
References: <200207270224.g6R2O1hF032150@contesting.com>
<05da01c23517$89c05b40$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <001d01c2353f$1f5b8ae0$7c6f7e42@sbcglobal.net>
I guess I agree with Ron:
Even if we can maybe hasten the time to the final results, What's the Big
Rush? Its worked so well for so many years, why do we now think it's
broken?
Just because many things in our lives CAN and DO go faster, does everything
have to?
For many years, the speed limit was 55 MPH. Then they cranked it back up to
65, and in some places even 70. Now, if you're not doing at least 80 on the
91 Freeway, hey buddy, get out of the way. Does that make our lives
necessarily "better"?
I recall when I was thrilled with my first computer, humming along at a nice
16 MHz. Now I'm wondering if my new 1.3 GHz notebook is fast enough? Give
me a break, please..........
Everything today is about speed, speed, speed. Even when driving in Italy
or Germany, do I take a relaxed tour @ 100 km/hour so I might actually SEE
some of the beautiful countryside? Nah, I've got to try and COMPETE with
the locals, and crank it up to 200 km/hr (at least). Is my quality of life
better by doing so? I think not. It's just dumb, dumb, dumb.
Now we're led to believe, we can't live without INSTANTANEOUS GRATIFICATION
on our contest victory?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But it's very thoughtful of The Kid (as
Trey is known around this household) to worry that we old guys may not be
around long enough for the final results.
The meaningfulness of the answer, for me, far exceeds the quest for
expediency, in this case.
Vy 73
Jim Neiger
N6TJ
>
> Considering the outcry last year when (under the dubious excuse of safety
of
> the mail) CQ Magazine forced all of us to enter only by electronic means,
to
> now propose to "force" contest entrants to rush in their logs and then
> "force" the contest committee to rush compilation in another 2 weeks
strikes
> me as being too hasty.
>
> Are we all so impatient that reducing the turn-around time between contest
&
> results from 6-8 months for the ARRL, and 8-10 months for CQ (just to pick
> on two) to under 2 months isn't enough, but we're going to try to
force-feed
> it to 6 or even 4 weeks?
>
> Remember, we're not dealing with a "closed" environment like the WRTC
> competitions, where you have a relative small number of stations (50 or
> less) competing for 24 hours. Compiling those results in a few hours is a
> piece of cake. We're talking about 48 hour contests that literally
involve
> thousands, if not tens of thousands, of amateurs -- many of whom never
have
> or will send in logs, which always leave question marks about "uniques"
and
> "busted calls" and other potential problems to sort out.
>
> Further, you must remember that in much of the world outside of North
> America and Europe, Internet access is not as accessible nor as cheap as
it
> is here. I would not be at all surprised to learn that there are many
> active contesters who have a computer in the shack, yet prefer to mail
their
> results in via a disk for whatever reasons.
>
> I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
> positive way to encourage more potential contesters. I think if we rise
the
> bar too high, we make the goal too difficult, it will do the exact
opposite
> by discouraging potential contesters and some of the active and less
active
> ones out there.
>
> I also would question the ability to compile scores, even with automation,
> in a day or two. Pending data to prove that one way or another, that
> strikes me as being more than a bit optimistic. Can someone on one of the
> major contest committees comment on whether or not automation makes one or
> two days practical?
>
> I am not saying that Trey's proposed 15 day deadline is a bad idea. But I
> don't think we're quite ready for it yet. One thing at a time.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of
our
> time?" -- Howard Beale
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
> decision)
>
> > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > Tell me if
> > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the
contest
> > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> >
> >
>
> No, it's not good enough.
>
> I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a
tad
> more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now
have,
> 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves most
of
> that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
>
> You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
> When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal
and
> then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
>
> I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
>
> Gary W2CS
>
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>From g4buo at compuserve.com Sat Jul 27 07:01:00 2002
From: g4buo@compuserve.com (Dave Lawley)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Log Checking
Message-ID: <200207270601_MC3-1-848-E994@compuserve.com>
This sort of statement worries me:
>I just finished the SSB logs except for three problem logs and it took a
> full two weeks working several hours a day. With 100% cabrillo I could
have
> checked the logs in a day and 70% of that is set up!. I now face a month
of
> grinding through the CW logs. Get the log in proper format and the
programs
> will do the rest!<
My understanding was that, for CQWW contests at least, the
computer does NOT automatically apply any penalties. It
produces a list of potential errors and these are reviewed
by real people who decide whether they really are errors
and whether a penalty should apply. Have things changed,
such that the computer now automatically applies the penalty?
If not, I can't see how the logs can be checked in a day. Sure,
the results for WRTC were produced in a day but there were
only 52 entries, all (presumably) conforming to the specified
log format, and a team led by K1ZZ/G3SXW stayed up all
night manually reviewing the potential errors identified by
the computer log checking process.
Dave G4BUO
>From n2mg at eham.net Sat Jul 27 08:45:05 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020726220631.0276d8e0@mail.peoplepc.com>
Message-ID: <002f01c23563$0d65b940$3201a8c0@mikehome>
K1MK wrote:
> Nine months ago one could have made the suggestion that the final SS
scores
> be prepared and ready to go onto the Web site in mid-January rather than
> waiting until mid-April when the results article was going to be needed by
> the printer.
Sure, technically it seems possible, but the web was considered as a
secondary vehicle for the publication of scores. This is clearly no longer
the case. (Also, I can *imagine* some stir caused by publishing the scores
on the web - and the "members only" or not issue - that much earlier than in
the magazine._
The ARRL moves naturally slowly. There are a lot of folks' opinions to
gather into a consensus (of sorts). Regardless of all the evil conspiracy
theories, I'll bet it took a lot of gnashing of teeth to dump the line
scores. (Hell, this reflector caused some that!)
The door is open now. Personally I'd like to see rather comprehensive
changes implemented. Get it all over at once. Otherwise every year one
would have to read the rules (not a bad idea actually) to see what the dang
League has changed with the submission criteria again.
1) no line scores in QST
2) forced Cabrillo
3) short deadline
4) results out in December
OK..."forced Cabrillo" bothers me somewhat...but NOT for SS (I think those
Carib guys *should* sweat a little! ;-) )
Even so, I feel mandatory Cabrillo looms. If there's something we in the US
can offer to our alleged "poor overseas bretheren with no email access" in
terms of a process to help them out, now might be the time...
Mike N2MG
>From k1ir at designet.com Sat Jul 27 09:26:37 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
Message-ID: <t83ad26ssmyfq07.270720020826@designet-jsi>
WN3VAW said:
>I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
positive way to encourage more potential contesters.<
Thank heaven somebody finally said something a little bit strategic! This is
the first hint of forward thinking that I've heard in this entire conversation.
Talking about a 15 day change in the results schedule seems to be an empty
effort when the implications of this change are much more far-reaching.
Over the past six months, about thirty-five of us got together and contributed
to a major proposal about ARRL contest coverage which was submitted to the ARRL
BoD just before their meeting. I didn't expect to get an official reaction from
HQ right away, but I did expect to hear some reaction and conversation about
the proposal here on the reflector.
Maybe it was too much trouble to click on one of the links in my previous
message:
PDF version: http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
or
HTML version: http://www.designet.com/k1ir/ContestCoverageProposal_071702.htm
So, I'll attach it here. Unfortunately, the formatting of the charts won't make
it through the reflector, so you'll have to look at one of the original
documents if you are interested in those.
Honestly, I am quite disappointed. I was really hoping that you'd take a look
at the hard work done by your peers and engage the subject fully.
Here are a few points and questions to get you thinking:
1. The group concluded that contest coverage in QST is really lacking, and that
the pages remaining after line scores are removed should be used much more
creatively. Ideas have been presented. Which do you like/hate?
2. While the web is now being used to effectively present contest results,
there is still a need for a more permanent record and for hardcopy. How do we
do both?
3. The web is much more appropriate for conveying the contesting "experience."
We can do it with sound, graphics and video. It can be stored. It can be live.
How can we get this done?
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
*********** Forwarded Proposal ***********
Contest Coverage Working Group
Guidelines and Proposals
2 July 2002
INTRODUCTION
Lead Author ? Jim Idelson, K1IR
Approach
The Working Group has developed three interrelated proposals and this overview
document, which addresses the process and integrates the component proposals.
The proposals are:
Proposal #1: General Guidelines for Allocating Material between Print and
Electronic Media
Proposal #2: New Ideas for Contest-Specific and General Contesting Material
Proposal #3: New Ideas for On-Line Contest-Specific Data
The goal of these proposals is to serve as a vehicle for defining broad-based
understandings of what is and is not desirable, as well as to present new ideas
for coverage. All three are intended to undergo continual revision as new ideas
are encountered.
The guidelines and proposals presented in this document are not intended to
address questions such as: the proper balance between contest and non-contest
content in any particular medium; what constitutes an adequate number of pages;
or how much contest related content is appropriate in a general readership
publication such as QST.
Background
In 2001, faced with the prospects of operating deficits for the next several
years, the ARRL Board's Administration & Finance Committee requested staff
identify areas of potential cost reduction. ARRL management's response included
a plan for publishing QST with fewer pages of editorial content per issue. One
element of this plan would eliminate contest line scores from QST, to be
replaced by Web-based line scores. News of this proposal immediately sparked a
series of reactions from the contesting community expressing concern that
contesting's presence in QST would be diminished to a damaging degree.
The strength and breadth of feeling in the contest community regarding the
proposed changes was reflected in the 18 January 2002 joint statement and
request of U.S. contest clubs addressed to the ARRL Board of Directors and
signed by the presidents of twelve ARRL-affiliated contest clubs. Following
through on the contest club presidents? proposal, concerned contesters from
across the U.S. and Canada have joined forces to form the ad hoc ARRL Contest
Coverage Working Group. This group is engaging the issues in a pragmatic and
constructive manner ? assisting the ARRL staff to find ways of utilizing the
limited number of QST pages allocated to reporting contest results in concert
with alternative electronic media to obtain the best possible distribution of
contest coverage.
New Technology, New Opportunities
QST, NCJ, CQ and the recently demised CQ-Contest magazines have long been the
primary outlets for contest reporting in the U.S. Due to limited print space,
the reporting is of necessity rather restricted and has converged on an
abbreviated format of summary, limited breakdowns, top scores, line scores, and
a small amount of background information on or from individual competitors.
Web pages and email-distributed newsletters, which have extremely low
distribution costs, have become new outlets for this material. Because of their
low cost, constraints on the volume of material have essentially been removed.
This allows expansion of many elements of contest coverage beyond what any
print medium could afford. In addition, electronic distribution generally is
much more timely than print, enabling multiple editions and frequent updates of
material. It is expected that the current levels of quality and quality control
for published material would be met or exceeded, regardless of media.
Electronic media can also go beyond print media in bringing new dimensions of
contest coverage and information to the audience. With database technology,
contest logs can be sorted and filtered to meet any imaginable data analysis
need. Using audio and video technologies, we can now convey more than basic
reports on contesting; we can truly convey the experience of contesting.
HIGH-LEVEL CONCERNS
A number of important points emerged from the discussion, and these points cut
across all forms of contest coverage. They are summarized below:
Visibility
One of the most commonly raised issues regarding a shift of line scores from
QST to the Web is the reduced visibility of the contesting community to the
broader amateur community, especially to casual participants and potential
newcomers. It is strongly felt that the acknowledgement from publishing scores
and calls, no matter how small the score, serves to attract and encourage
entry-level contesters to the sport.
Contesters at all levels have always been honored to see their call signs and
performance in the ?bright lights? of QST. With great pride, they like to refer
other hams to the magazine and show the magazine to their non-ham friends and
family. There are widely held concerns over the loss of such high-level
visibility should scores be moved to the Web.
Opportunities for Visibility:
Include contest results announcements in the general news section of
www.arrl.org with links to full coverage
Use visual cues (highlighted links, graphics, or pop-up windows) to entice
?surfers? to visit contest coverage
Capture information about those who visit contest sections of the Website and
solicit them with opportunities to see more coverage
Use the log submission mechanics to obtain email addresses to which results may
be sent automatically.
Continue to provide contest report articles in the ?traditional? style,
including line scores, via an electronic medium.
Connectivity
Recognizing that various print and electronic media will continue to exist
separately, and that there will not be a complete duplication of content in the
various media, every effort must be made to provide many references among the
different coverage vehicles. This implies many links in the electronic media,
and many references to Web and email from the print media. For example, QST
coverage of contests should push readers towards Web-based coverage and
describe the expanded coverage options available.
Opportunities for Connectivity:
Every printed article should contain numerous and clear references to relevant
electronic media.
Many active links between electronic media presentations should be introduced
and maintained.
Cross-references from print media to electronic should not be limited to QST.
All ARRL publications should cross-reference relevant electronic media.
Ease of Use
As electronic outlets for contest coverage are increasingly employed, it is
important to ensure that those who wish to view the content have an easy and
attractive way to navigate amongst the many types and sources of information
that will be available. The approach to Website navigation and use of email
will be an important part of the electronic media design.
Suggestions for Ease of Use:
Focus design on accessing all aspects of each contest from a single place ? a
contest home page for each contest. Include access to rules, announcements,
current and historical results, discussions, Soapbox, etc ? all from a single
home page.
Avoid grouping of information by ?type?. For example, listing Soapbox links for
all contests is not particularly useful, since few if any individual contesters
will be interested in all contests.
Beyond the Written Word
The real secret to a successful shift from printed media to the Web is in
taking advantage of the capabilities that are unique to electronic media. If
use of the Web is restricted to duplicating the same kinds of material that
would previously have been presented in magazines ? then the transition to
electronic media will not be as swift and powerful. Implementations using
electronic media to recreate and convey the excitement of the contesting
experience will make it impossible for this new approach to fail.
Opportunities for Going Beyond the Written Word:
Provide data in downloadable format wherever possible
Add audio and video to the types of information available
Include audio and video interviews with the winners and other entrants with
something of interest to contribute
Allow viewers to add data or audio/video to the available material
Accessibility
Access to electronic media distributed via the Internet is good and continues
to improve. Even so, Internet access remains far from universal. In 2000, the
U.S. Census Bureau reported that 51% of U.S. households had a computer and
41.5% of households had access to the Internet. Neither percentage depended
strongly on age group for adults in the range of 18?65 years old. The rates of
computer ownership and Internet access both increase sharply with greater
household income and higher levels of education.
Access to the broadband Internet connections, necessary for realizing the full
potential of powerful multi-media technologies such as video, is rapidly
improving as well. The FCC reports that 7.0% of U.S. households were subscribed
to high-speed Internet services as of July 2001, up from 4.7% in January 2001,
and 1.6% in July 2000.
Focusing specifically on the amateur community, a recent survey commissioned by
the ARRL concluded that 89% of its members had Internet access although only
51% of the ARRL membership had registered as users of the ARRL members-only Web
site by October 2001. The number of electronic versus the number of paper logs
received by both the ARRL Contest Branch and the CQWW Committee suggest that
the contesting community already is highly ?wired.?
Suggestions for Accessibility:
Print copies of unabridged contest announcements including the detailed rules
and ?traditional? contest report articles including line scores should be
available for those members who lack Internet access.
Content produced for electronic distribution should also be published on
high-density, archival quality media, e.g. CD-ROM and DVD.
Thinking Globally
Contesters outside of the U.S. constitute a sizeable fraction of today's
contesting community. Anyone holding to the narrow view that ARRL sponsored
contests are solely parochial affairs of interest to an exclusively U.S. (or
North American) audience is in error. Non-U.S. stations submitted 50% of the
logs received for the 2000 ARRL 10-Meter Contest; 55% of the logs for the 2001
ARRL International DX Contest; and 70% of the logs for the 2001 IARU HF World
Championships. In 2000, DX stations accounted for one-third of the 16,000
contest logs processed by the ARRL Contest Branch and one-third of the scores
printed in QST.
Clearly, active contesters exist in substantial numbers around the world yet
they represent a virtually untapped market distinct from the ARRL?s traditional
membership base. Like their U.S. counterparts, many international contesters
are enthusiastic and excited about the prospects for expanded and enhanced
contest coverage being discussed. And they share an interest in viewing such
coverage.
Historically, the costs of reaching a worldwide market using print have been
prohibitive, keeping demand to an absolute minimum. NCJ is not marketed outside
USA/Canada yet much of its content is relevant to contesters worldwide. The
very low distribution costs of electronic media now permit existing content and
expanded coverage to efficiently reach a global audience.
Suggestions for Connecting with A Global Audience:
The ARRL offer non-U.S. contesters access to the expanded and enhanced contest
coverage on the ARRL Web site; possibly in exchange for payment of an
appropriate fee.
Use e-mail addresses harvested from log submittals for the targeted marketing
of expanded contest coverage, NCJ, membership, etc.
Feature contests sponsored by sister IARU societies in reciprocity for similar
exposure given to ARRL contests.
Comb international sources for content. Acquire English language rights to the
best contest related content being produced worldwide.
Cultivate international distribution channels and develop foreign language
outlets for ARRL contest coverage.
Line Scores
At present, line scores are the largest individual component of contest
coverage, occupying half the pages of contest reports in QST. Faced with
falling page counts and shrinking publication budgets but growing
participation, we are forced to confront a nasty dilemma. Either continued
publication of line scores displaces all other aspects of contest coverage from
the pages of QST with contest reports being reduced to a listing of scores and
call signs. Or the contest related content that is best suited for distribution
to a broad audience remains in QST with line scores relocated to the Web.
The guidelines in Proposal #1 are intended to be used as an aide when
considering the optimal utilization of scarce resources. Several types of
content are judged by the Working Group as being better suited than line scores
for occupying a limited number of QST pages (see Table 1 in Proposal #1). If
the ARRL Board of Directors makes the determination to cut deeply into the
number of QST pages available for reporting contest results, an application of
these guidelines would lead
one to conclude that the least undesirable alternative is relocating line
scores to the Web. By using linkages and references, readership can be guided
to the electronic media where line scores would be published in full and
possibly even in expanded form, as the 2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes results
show.
PROPOSAL #1 ? Allocation of Coverage to Print and Electronic Media
Lead Author ? Ward Silver, NØAX
Contributing Authors ? Michael Keane, K1MK and Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Scope
This proposal addresses the general question of how to allocate the relative
proportions of contest coverage between print and electronic media. No
distinction is made between the different forms of either media (i.e. ?
magazine vs. newsletter or Web page vs. email). No attempt is made to specify
the details of coverage content or to rank the most valuable, most desirable or
most enjoyable content.
Purpose
The purpose is to develop a set of general guidelines to provide guidance to
publishers for developing and distributing contest coverage material. Also, it
may serve to encourage discussion about the development of new types and forms
of material.
Background
Currently, print media is the primary form for distributing contest information
and results to the amateur radio community. Electronic media, however, is
rapidly becoming an accepted norm for distributing this type of information due
to its cost advantages, timeliness and increasing public acceptance. The
question has become not if, but when and how much contest information should be
made available electronically.
In this rapidly changing environment, it is important that publishers and
readers have a good sense of each other?s needs. This document attempts to
provide information on the general types of contest coverage and the
suitability of distributing each type of content in print or electronic form.
Print media is discussed as either General or Specialty. General refers to
media dealing with the full spectrum of ham radio, such as QST. Specialty
refers to publications aimed at contesters such as NCJ.
Electronic media is discussed as either Push or Pull. Push refers to actively
distributed formats, in which information is delivered to the consumer at the
initiative of the publisher ? the publisher is the active party. Examples of
push media include newsletters (email or print), bulletins and broadcasts.
Pull refers to passive sources of information, in which information is accessed
or retrieved from the publisher at the initiative of the consumer ? the reader
is the active party. Examples of pull media include web pages, bulletin boards,
ftp sites, books, CD-ROMs and libraries.
Coverage
Contest announcements and results should be available in printed and digital
media. An announcement is any advance notice that provides information as the
time, rules, awards, etc., about a specific contest. The results include
information describing any aspect of the contest that is distributed after the
contest.
Table 1 shows the relative suitability of using each of these media to
distribute specific announcement and results content; i.e. ? Is the medium the
one best suited to distribute this type of information to the target audience?
The suitability of each content type is rated as high, limited or low. The
ratings attempt to account for all aspects of the medium including cost,
quality, readership, archival, timeliness, etc. The ratings are defined as
follows:
High ? the medium is well suited to both the information and the
target audience.
Limited ? the medium is not the best method for distribution of the
information to the target audience.
Low ? the medium is poorly suited to the information, the target
audience or both; distribution of the information via this medium may be
inefficient, untimely or costly
Table 1 ? General Allocation Guidelines
OMITTED DUE TO FORMATTING PROBLEMS
PROPOSAL #2 ? New Ideas for Contest-Specific and General Contesting Material
Lead Author ? Brian D. Smith W9IND
Contributing Authors ?Ward Silver NØAX, Gary Breed K9AY
Scope
This proposal discusses existing contest print coverage. New ideas for coverage
are presented, both for print and electronic media. Details of implementation
are not addressed, neither is the allocation of coverage between types of
media.
Purpose
The purpose of this proposal is to:
Assess and critique current contest coverage in the print media.
Suggest how to improve coverage in both print and electronic media.
Contribute new ideas for coverage in multiple media.
Background
The ARRL Staff responsible for publishing a QST having fewer pages per issue
has proposed to allocate the limited resources available for reporting contest
results in ways that are appropriate for a general-readership, monthly
magazine. This, they believe, would save money and create more space for
articles of greater general interest.
The following proposal deals mainly with the latter objective. As stated in
Point 5 of the ?Joint Statement and Request of U.S. Contest Clubs on the
Proposal to Eliminate Detailed Contest Results from QST,? the coalition of
ARRL-affiliated contest clubs intends to assist QST in ?making such coverage
more attractive and interesting to a much wider audience than has been the case
to date.?
In striving to attain this goal, the lead author has drawn from about a quarter
century of professional journalism experience as a magazine editor, newspaper
reporter and freelance writer. The approach of this proposal is neither complex
nor radical; it simply suggests journalistic techniques and angles
traditionally used in the creation of newspaper and magazine feature stories,
newswriting and sportswriting. These approaches are not unknown to QST, but
perhaps by utilizing them more often, the magazine would enhance its contest
coverage.
Critique of Existing Coverage
QST?s current coverage includes the calls and scores of every entrant, and in
this respect, its articles could not be more thorough for anyone seeking such
information. The lead-in text that precedes the contest results is often
concise, matter-of-fact and esoteric, and perhaps more interesting to hard-core
contesters than the average ham. As long as this is true, QST may find it
difficult to justify devoting so much space to contest coverage.
Possible Alternatives
QST could revamp the format of the coverage so that (1) the articles are more
interesting to non-contesters and (2) hams with little contesting experience
are encouraged to get in the game.
General Interest Coverage
One alternative is to make the coverage more like a ?game story? found on a
sports page. For instance, rather than covering a contest from the standpoint
of final scores (?Club ABC got 7.4 million points in the multi-multi category
to edge Club XYZ, which scored 7.2 million?) ? as is typically done in QST ?
the magazine could approach it from a ?you are there? angle: ?Club ABC?s
contest effort almost ended before it began. Only three hours before the start
of the ARRL DX Contest, a severe thunderstorm packing 70 mph winds sent their
tallest antenna tumbling and the entire club scrambling. But a nifty bit of
improvisation put the station back on the air only 12 minutes before midnight
in Greenwich ?,? etc. Stories like these would have universal appeal,
regardless of whether the average reader cared deeply about contesting.
How to round up such information? The contest page on the ARRL Web site already
has a Soapbox, in which contesters can post their impressions, complaints,
reminiscences, anecdotes, etc., regarding each contest. All that?s needed is to
set up a similar Web site and inform contestants that QST is looking for any
good stories from the contest. Or the magazine could invite them to e-mail this
information. The author of the story could then scan the contributed copy for
the best tales. Many quotes could be lifted directly from the posts or e-mails,
and further information could be gathered via follow-up e-mail, landline and/or
even an on-air sked.
New Approaches
Looking more closely at newspaper sports sections, we find further inspiration
and possibilities. We see that not everything on every page is a game story:
There are also feature stories, profiles, personal columns and ?pre-games?
(stories previewing important games and events ? for instance, ?The Los Angeles
Lakers may face their toughest challenge of the year when the Dallas Mavericks
come to town Friday ??). The same elements and techniques that sustain sports
pages across America could be employed in contesting coverage.
Feature stories, a broad category, might include topics such as ?How our club
prepares for a multi-multi event? ? everything from how to recruit and schedule
operators to what food and drink to keep in the fridge. There could be
discussions of contesting tips and techniques: ?What to do when a solar flare
zaps the HF bands in the middle of a contest.?
Profiles could run the gamut ? from the 88-year-old guy who organized the first
ARRL Whatever Contest to the club that?s won the last 10 CQWW multi-multi
titles.
Personal columns could also include a broad range of topics, from serious to
humorous (?WPX: For once in my life, I?m as rare as Mongolia? by WY9A ? or ?How
contesting enabled me to finally achieve DXCC?).
?Pre-games? would supplement the traditional pre-contest coverage, which
typically consists of a long list of rules and regulation. Such information is
valuable to veteran contesters, but complicated and potentially off-putting to
beginners. Naturally, no one wants to embarrass himself on the air, so many
hams who might enjoy contesting may instead decide to forgo the contest rather
than risk ridicule.
Attracting Newcomers
Contesters are often viewed by non-contesters as insular and cliquish (not to
mention pushy). Undoubtedly, some contesters are less than courteous in the
heat of the battle. But as every contester knows, great scores depend on great
participation. We need the newcomers ? as many as we can get. So how to make
them feel welcome?
QST and several Web sites publish information on upcoming contests, but the
rules may seem overly complex to the uninitiated. A better alternative might
involve creating what?s known in the journalism business as a sidebar. USA
Today is fond of sidebars ? read a story about Barry Bonds? current home run
total and you might also see a sidebar about ?Most home runs in April ?
all-time bests,? etc. Read any newspaper travel story and you?ll often find a
sidebar that summarizes the key information: ?Destination: Louisville,
Kentucky. Major tourist attractions: Located on the Ohio River, home of
Churchill Downs ?? etc.
It is this user-friendly format ? the sidebar, which would accompany the
?pre-game? write-up ? that would work best in attracting newcomers to
contesting. Instead of having to wade through a plethora of technical data, a
rookie contester could simply glance at the sidebar and learn instantly what
the contest was about and how to participate in it, even if he or she had only
a couple of hours to do so.
Here?s how it might work (?Announced DXpeditions? might lure non-contesting
DXers who are chasing DXCC and other awards):
Contest: ARRL International DX Contest
How to participate: Get on any of the HF bands except the WARC bands. If you?re
in the United States or Canada, you can?t work any station in either country ?
look for DX stations only. For DX stations, the same applies in reverse.
What to say: Give a signal report and your state (for Americans), province (for
Canadians) or power in watts (DX stations).
Announced DXpeditions: HKØHAM, San Andes Island, CT3QRP, Madeira Islands, etc.
Quirks: Split operation on 40 because DX stations are assigned to different
frequencies, etc.
Best reason to participate: You can attain DXCC in one weekend.
Relative challenge: Easy for all. (Note: An EME contest would obviously get a
different answer.)
Web links: http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2002/intldx.html
Records: Yet another way to increase interest in contesting is to stoke hams?
competitive fires. How to do that? Create a Web site that provides easy access
to every record in every major contest. A good reference for records would list
more than the ?top? result in a particular category. By publishing many
results near the top (e.g., top 10, or all of the past results within 10% of
the current high spot), competitors can try to sneak into the listing even
though conditions might not permit them to break an all-time record. An
excellent reference would contain links to more material: the actual log,
technical detail about the station which made the record, operator background,
etc.
This will give potential contest entrants a great many targets to shoot at ?
and might very well convince a casual contester to go at it for the full 48
hours. A ham who knows only the single-op, all-band record might say, ?Oh well,
no way am I going to beat that. So I?ll just do a few hours here and there.?
But what if W8HAM discovered that the CQWW 8-land single-op assisted record for
10 meters was tantalizingly low? That puts a different spin on things, doesn?t
it?
New Ideas for Coverage
Story Ideas: The final part of our proposal offers story ideas that (hopefully)
will interest a general audience. The following is a list of 20 potential
stories or sidebars that could be included with contest coverage. There are
obviously many other possibilities.
Trend stories ? ?20 percent of all contesting records were broken in the year
2000,? etc. A snapshot of where contesting is going.
A feature story about the op who holds more contest records than anyone alive.
The superstations: A guide to the greatest contest stations in America/the
world. Perhaps a sidebar on the tallest ham antennas in existence (used in
contesting).
The best contesting conditions in history. (Consider sunspots, weather, rare DX
stations competing, etc.) A nostalgia piece loaded with anecdotes about how
sweet it was.
You are there: A weekend with a championship contest team, from planning to
take-down.
The world?s best contest location(s). (Not stations ? this story would give
scientific reasons for why, say, a place next to salt water is better than a
spot in the middle of Midwest farm country. Or why a QTH on the East Coast is
ideal for working Europe on several bands (or whatever).
Wild weather. Hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards and other examples of nature?s
wrath ? and how their inopportune appearances ruined some major contests or
contesting efforts.
Profile of a ham who contests only with homebrew equipment. Or antique
equipment.
How to work your way up to the big leagues. What separates a good contester
from a rookie? How do you work several stations a minute? What are the most
common mistakes a newcomer makes?
How to organize a multi-multi effort. Everything from scheduling to feeding the
troops.
How to secure a great contesting QTH. A guide to the best locations, and
perhaps a list of specific sites that rent to hams and are already equipped
with antennas.
Big guns with little signals. A feature story about the best QRP contesters,
and what they do right.
The case for contesters. Why shouldn?t America?s biggest and best stations form
the backbone of the nation?s civil defense/emergency response efforts?
Point/counterpoint: Examining the age-old issue of contest QRM versus ?it?s
only one weekend?/?why don?t you ragchew on the WARC bands??
On a similar note, a story about the fact that some contesters have been cited
by the FCC for deliberate interference during a contest. Is this truly fair,
given the fact that some have said they couldn?t even hear the stations they
were supposedly QRMing?
A brief history of contesting. How did it all start?
Back when. Interviews with the oldest living contesters, and what contesting
was like in their day.
The lean years. How can you enjoy contesting when the sunspot count is at or
near zero? What?s the best strategy?
Which band is best? A guide to choosing the best band for a single-band
contesting effort. How do the sunspot count, the A index, the weather, etc.,
help determine the answer?
Overcomers. Not necessarily the best contesters, just the most inspiring ones,
such as a ham who suffered a stroke but nevertheless fires up the rig as part
of his therapy, etc.
Multimedia - Audio and Video
Electronic media creates entirely new opportunities for contest coverage. Not
only can traditional presentations be distributed at vastly lower expense and
with higher volume, they can include new types of information as well. Audio
and video recordings, as well as interactive graphics, can bring completely new
dimensions to contest coverage. The ARRL is already providing audio recordings
of QSOs in association with other Web coverage, for example.
Contest coverage would greatly benefit from the following types of multimedia
presentations:
Audio recordings of contest QSOs
Audio/video recordings of elements associated with the contest (pre-, during,
and post-contest)
Photo ?stills? and slide shows
Interviews with the experts
Live and still graphics generated by the ARRL and by entrants
Because the amount of effort to create this type of information is substantial,
it is strongly recommended that the ARRL provide a hosting facility for contest
entrants to contribute or post their own information as is currently done with
Soapbox. The size and duration of the postings could be limited to manage the
amount of data space required. The issue of reviewing each post for appropriate
content would also have to be addressed.
Because these new coverage elements are quite rich in content, they are also
likely to generate discussion and comment by the viewers. In order to focus the
discussion, it would be useful to create a posting service on the contest Web
site where individual comments could be posted for public comment.
Viewers will have widely divergent access bandwidths ranging from 28.8 kbps
dial-ups to broadband. If possible, server technology capable of sensing link
capability (or allowing the user to specify the link characteristics) should be
used for distribution of the larger elements. An alternative would be to
provide large and small versions of elements, where practical.
PROPOSAL #3 ? On-Line Distribution of Contest Data
Lead Author ? Ward Silver, NØAX
Contributing Authors ? Michael Keane, K1MK and Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Scope
This proposal describes the types of contest data that should be made publicly
available on-line. Detailed data formats are not covered.
Purpose
This document is a summary of ideas and suggestions contributed by individuals
in the contesting community. It is hoped it will serve to stimulate discussion
and produce more ideas.
Background
Until very recently, the only type of contest data available to contestants was
printed and PDF documents that tabulated the scores of class leaders, gave
selected entrant breakdowns, and provided line scores of all entrants. Contest
data in a digital form suitable for doing detailed post-contest analysis has
not been available. With the advent of the Web it is has become technically
easy and cost-effective to make contest data available to everyone in a format
suitable for analysis. The excellent 2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes reportage
clearly points the way to making improved data sets available.
We expect that detailed post-contest analysis will assist individuals and the
contesting community as a whole in gaining a deeper understanding and
appreciation of what transpires during a contest. Ideally, making data
available will spur novel ideas that lead to creative improvements.
Machine-Readable Results
Quantitative contest results that are normally presented in the printed or PDF
documents, such as line scores, leader boxes, records, etc., should also be
made available as machine-readable tables of data. In order to perform accurate
and detailed contest analysis the following data is of particular interest to
the contesting community:
The output of the log checking process for any entry
Supplementary details about a contestant?s equipment and precise geographic
location (e.g. Maidenhead grid locator or latitude-longitude coordinates)
Data that is provided should be in common formats suitable for importing into
standard logging programs, databases and spreadsheet packages. Examples of such
formats would be Cabrillo format for log data and CSV or tab delimited format
for tabular.
The following sections list the individual data elements recommended to be
present in each type of data.
Log Data
Summary (Header)
Station and operator call signs
Entry Class
Geographical Region
Other contest-specific grouping criteria
QSO data
Time and Date
Band
Mode
Exchange (Sent & Received)
Log checking output
TBD
Entry Supplemental Data
Station and operator call signs
Entry Class
Geographical Region
Equipment Summary
Other contest-specific grouping criteria
We note that the techniques and tools for providing on-line resources are
evolving rapidly. On-line resources are also likely to create a demand for new
types of data, as well. These recommendations are only a start.
Third-Party Analysis
Contest analysis provided by individual entrants should be accompanied by
supporting data tables, graphic objects, and program descriptions or ideally,
the programs themselves. The sponsor may also create novel analysis metrics
that are made available electronically via a database.
Examples of Novel Metrics:
Evaluation of geographical impact on performance
Propagation analysis based on geographical data
Accuracy metrics and comparisons
Operator ranking and rating systems
Comparative performance-over-time (horse races)
Open Access to Results & Data
Currently some contest content, e.g. expanded coverage for the 2001 ARRL
November Sweepstakes, is available only on the members-only section of the ARRL
Web site. While other content, e.g. PDF versions of the contest report articles
from QST, is placed initially on the members-only section for a proprietary use
period prior to its publication in QST. Open access is granted after the
article appears in QST and the PDF files are moved to the general user section
of the Web site.
It is appropriate for the bulk of enhanced and expanded contest coverage,
including narrative articles, leader boxes, contest analysis, video, audio,
etc., to remain on the members-only section of the ARRL Web site. Some content
may be released for general consumption after an appropriate proprietary period
at the ARRL?s discretion.
However, it is strongly recommended that open access, or at least access for
all contest participants, to some minimum set of data be provided. And that
access is granted to these data as soon as they become available.
Suggested Components for An Open Access Data Set:
Log data
Line scores in machine-readable form
Publication of Log Data
The DX community frowns upon providing public access to log data that includes
full QSO details. Such access is seen as enabling a form of ?data mining? that
would allow an unscrupulous station to claim credit for a log entry that in
truth represents a busted QSO.
Suggestions for Insuring Integrity:
Release log data only to individuals who submit a log themselves
Prohibit the further redistribution of log data by recipient
Do not release log data until log checking process is completed.
Investigate ways for ARRL Contest Branch to share log checking results with the
DXCC Program and Logbook of the World project.
Privacy Issues
As important as what data should be available is insuring that sensitive
personal information is not released. While certain personal information such
as a licensee?s name and mailing address is currently included in the log that
an entrant submits, this information is already a matter of public record and
readily available from multiple sources. Other, potentially more sensitive,
personal information about the entrant is not included in the log at present
and it is our recommendation that this should continue to be the case.
Suggestion to Safeguard Privacy:
Personal data that is not readily available from a public source should not be
published or released.
Preserving Participation
The mandatory release of log data as a condition of entry may cause certain
contesters either to forgo participating in a contest or, if they do
participate, to not submit a log.
Suggestions for Preserving Participation:
Include a mechanism in the log submittal process so that each entrant must
affirmatively authorize the publication and release of their log data.
Allow individuals to ?opt out? of sharing their log data without being
penalized.
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sat Jul 27 15:03:52 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
In-Reply-To: <t83ad26ssmyfq07.270720020826@designet-jsi>
Message-ID: <000301c23576$70f8c5c0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Sri if some of this has been said already, but there has been so much
talk on this subject that I just can't read it all.
My feelings are this:
Leave the 30 days to get logs in for now, but in the mean time instead
of just listing logs received, publish the claimed scores as they
arrive. The log rx robot should be able to handle this, after it
accepts a log just extract the claimed score, entry class, and club and
sort it into a web page listing. This will make the 3830 list
redundant, I hate sending the log one place, and the summary to 2
others(3830 and yccc's internal score list).
As logs get checked just update the list from above with the verified
results and resort. Probably starting with the biggest claimed logs and
working down so the most likely winners see their final standing first.
This would be similar to knowing the winner of a race before everyone
has even finished.
I would like to see more use of real time reporting like w1ve has done
for Writelog at http://www.contestlogs.com/live/default2.asp. I think
the wrtc demo of real time reporting has shown that there is some
interest in this concept. This will take some work on the part of
contesting loggers to send periodic updates in a specific format to a
server, but anyone that has telnet access to the web should be able to
do this. i.e. for something like dos CT I could make my wintelnetx
program grab a line score broadcast on the ct network and send it to the
w1ve server, all k1ea would have to do is add a periodic broadcast to
his network that has the right data in it. With a bit more work I could
probably make something to duplicate the ct log as it is sent on the
network and rescore myself to get the data. Other loggers would
probably be not much harder.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim Idelson
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 12:27
> To: CQ-Contest Post
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
>
> WN3VAW said:
>
> >I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes
in a
> positive way to encourage more potential contesters.<
>
> Thank heaven somebody finally said something a little bit strategic!
This
> is
> the first hint of forward thinking that I've heard in this entire
> conversation.
> Talking about a 15 day change in the results schedule seems to be an
empty
> effort when the implications of this change are much more
far-reaching.
>
> Over the past six months, about thirty-five of us got together and
> contributed
> to a major proposal about ARRL contest coverage which was submitted to
the
> ARRL
> BoD just before their meeting. I didn't expect to get an official
reaction
> from
> HQ right away, but I did expect to hear some reaction and conversation
> about
> the proposal here on the reflector.
>
> Maybe it was too much trouble to click on one of the links in my
previous
> message:
> PDF version:
> http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
> or
> HTML version:
> http://www.designet.com/k1ir/ContestCoverageProposal_071702.htm
>
> So, I'll attach it here. Unfortunately, the formatting of the charts
won't
> make
> it through the reflector, so you'll have to look at one of the
original
> documents if you are interested in those.
>
> Honestly, I am quite disappointed. I was really hoping that you'd take
a
> look
> at the hard work done by your peers and engage the subject fully.
>
> Here are a few points and questions to get you thinking:
> 1. The group concluded that contest coverage in QST is really lacking,
and
> that
> the pages remaining after line scores are removed should be used much
more
> creatively. Ideas have been presented. Which do you like/hate?
> 2. While the web is now being used to effectively present contest
results,
> there is still a need for a more permanent record and for hardcopy.
How do
> we
> do both?
> 3. The web is much more appropriate for conveying the contesting
> "experience."
> We can do it with sound, graphics and video. It can be stored. It can
be
> live.
> How can we get this done?
>
> Jim Idelson K1IR
> email k1ir@designet.com
> web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>
> *********** Forwarded Proposal ***********
>
> Contest Coverage Working Group
> Guidelines and Proposals
> 2 July 2002
>
> INTRODUCTION
> Lead Author ? Jim Idelson, K1IR
>
> Approach
>
> The Working Group has developed three interrelated proposals and this
> overview
> document, which addresses the process and integrates the component
> proposals.
> The proposals are:
> Proposal #1: General Guidelines for Allocating Material between
Print
> and
> Electronic Media
> Proposal #2: New Ideas for Contest-Specific and General Contesting
> Material
> Proposal #3: New Ideas for On-Line Contest-Specific Data
>
> The goal of these proposals is to serve as a vehicle for defining
broad-
> based
> understandings of what is and is not desirable, as well as to present
new
> ideas
> for coverage. All three are intended to undergo continual revision as
new
> ideas
> are encountered.
> The guidelines and proposals presented in this document are not
intended
> to
> address questions such as: the proper balance between contest and non-
> contest
> content in any particular medium; what constitutes an adequate number
of
> pages;
> or how much contest related content is appropriate in a general
readership
> publication such as QST.
>
> Background
>
> In 2001, faced with the prospects of operating deficits for the next
> several
> years, the ARRL Board's Administration & Finance Committee requested
staff
> identify areas of potential cost reduction. ARRL management's response
> included
> a plan for publishing QST with fewer pages of editorial content per
issue.
> One
> element of this plan would eliminate contest line scores from QST, to
be
> replaced by Web-based line scores. News of this proposal immediately
> sparked a
> series of reactions from the contesting community expressing concern
that
> contesting's presence in QST would be diminished to a damaging degree.
> The strength and breadth of feeling in the contest community regarding
the
> proposed changes was reflected in the 18 January 2002 joint statement
and
> request of U.S. contest clubs addressed to the ARRL Board of Directors
and
> signed by the presidents of twelve ARRL-affiliated contest clubs.
> Following
> through on the contest club presidents? proposal, concerned contesters
> from
> across the U.S. and Canada have joined forces to form the ad hoc ARRL
> Contest
> Coverage Working Group. This group is engaging the issues in a
pragmatic
> and
> constructive manner ? assisting the ARRL staff to find ways of
utilizing
> the
> limited number of QST pages allocated to reporting contest results in
> concert
> with alternative electronic media to obtain the best possible
distribution
> of
> contest coverage.
>
> New Technology, New Opportunities
>
> QST, NCJ, CQ and the recently demised CQ-Contest magazines have long
been
> the
> primary outlets for contest reporting in the U.S. Due to limited print
> space,
> the reporting is of necessity rather restricted and has converged on
an
> abbreviated format of summary, limited breakdowns, top scores, line
> scores, and
> a small amount of background information on or from individual
> competitors.
>
> Web pages and email-distributed newsletters, which have extremely low
> distribution costs, have become new outlets for this material. Because
of
> their
> low cost, constraints on the volume of material have essentially been
> removed.
> This allows expansion of many elements of contest coverage beyond what
any
> print medium could afford. In addition, electronic distribution
generally
> is
> much more timely than print, enabling multiple editions and frequent
> updates of
> material. It is expected that the current levels of quality and
quality
> control
> for published material would be met or exceeded, regardless of media.
>
> Electronic media can also go beyond print media in bringing new
dimensions
> of
> contest coverage and information to the audience. With database
> technology,
> contest logs can be sorted and filtered to meet any imaginable data
> analysis
> need. Using audio and video technologies, we can now convey more than
> basic
> reports on contesting; we can truly convey the experience of
contesting.
>
> HIGH-LEVEL CONCERNS
>
> A number of important points emerged from the discussion, and these
points
> cut
> across all forms of contest coverage. They are summarized below:
>
> Visibility
>
> One of the most commonly raised issues regarding a shift of line
scores
> from
> QST to the Web is the reduced visibility of the contesting community
to
> the
> broader amateur community, especially to casual participants and
potential
> newcomers. It is strongly felt that the acknowledgement from
publishing
> scores
> and calls, no matter how small the score, serves to attract and
encourage
> entry-level contesters to the sport.
>
> Contesters at all levels have always been honored to see their call
signs
> and
> performance in the ?bright lights? of QST. With great pride, they like
to
> refer
> other hams to the magazine and show the magazine to their non-ham
friends
> and
> family. There are widely held concerns over the loss of such
high-level
> visibility should scores be moved to the Web.
>
> Opportunities for Visibility:
>
> Include contest results announcements in the general news section of
> www.arrl.org with links to full coverage
> Use visual cues (highlighted links, graphics, or pop-up windows) to
entice
> ?surfers? to visit contest coverage
> Capture information about those who visit contest sections of the
Website
> and
> solicit them with opportunities to see more coverage
> Use the log submission mechanics to obtain email addresses to which
> results may
> be sent automatically.
> Continue to provide contest report articles in the ?traditional?
style,
> including line scores, via an electronic medium.
>
> Connectivity
>
> Recognizing that various print and electronic media will continue to
exist
> separately, and that there will not be a complete duplication of
content
> in the
> various media, every effort must be made to provide many references
among
> the
> different coverage vehicles. This implies many links in the electronic
> media,
> and many references to Web and email from the print media. For
example,
> QST
> coverage of contests should push readers towards Web-based coverage
and
> describe the expanded coverage options available.
>
> Opportunities for Connectivity:
> Every printed article should contain numerous and clear references to
> relevant
> electronic media.
> Many active links between electronic media presentations should be
> introduced
> and maintained.
> Cross-references from print media to electronic should not be limited
to
> QST.
> All ARRL publications should cross-reference relevant electronic
media.
>
> Ease of Use
>
> As electronic outlets for contest coverage are increasingly employed,
it
> is
> important to ensure that those who wish to view the content have an
easy
> and
> attractive way to navigate amongst the many types and sources of
> information
> that will be available. The approach to Website navigation and use of
> email
> will be an important part of the electronic media design.
>
> Suggestions for Ease of Use:
> Focus design on accessing all aspects of each contest from a single
place
> ? a
> contest home page for each contest. Include access to rules,
> announcements,
> current and historical results, discussions, Soapbox, etc ? all from a
> single
> home page.
> Avoid grouping of information by ?type?. For example, listing Soapbox
> links for
> all contests is not particularly useful, since few if any individual
> contesters
> will be interested in all contests.
>
> Beyond the Written Word
>
> The real secret to a successful shift from printed media to the Web is
in
> taking advantage of the capabilities that are unique to electronic
media.
> If
> use of the Web is restricted to duplicating the same kinds of material
> that
> would previously have been presented in magazines ? then the
transition to
> electronic media will not be as swift and powerful. Implementations
using
> electronic media to recreate and convey the excitement of the
contesting
> experience will make it impossible for this new approach to fail.
>
> Opportunities for Going Beyond the Written Word:
> Provide data in downloadable format wherever possible
> Add audio and video to the types of information available
> Include audio and video interviews with the winners and other entrants
> with
> something of interest to contribute
> Allow viewers to add data or audio/video to the available material
>
> Accessibility
>
> Access to electronic media distributed via the Internet is good and
> continues
> to improve. Even so, Internet access remains far from universal. In
2000,
> the
> U.S. Census Bureau reported that 51% of U.S. households had a computer
and
> 41.5% of households had access to the Internet. Neither percentage
> depended
> strongly on age group for adults in the range of 18?65 years old. The
> rates of
> computer ownership and Internet access both increase sharply with
greater
> household income and higher levels of education.
>
> Access to the broadband Internet connections, necessary for realizing
the
> full
> potential of powerful multi-media technologies such as video, is
rapidly
> improving as well. The FCC reports that 7.0% of U.S. households were
> subscribed
> to high-speed Internet services as of July 2001, up from 4.7% in
January
> 2001,
> and 1.6% in July 2000.
>
> Focusing specifically on the amateur community, a recent survey
> commissioned by
> the ARRL concluded that 89% of its members had Internet access
although
> only
> 51% of the ARRL membership had registered as users of the ARRL
members-
> only Web
> site by October 2001. The number of electronic versus the number of
paper
> logs
> received by both the ARRL Contest Branch and the CQWW Committee
suggest
> that
> the contesting community already is highly ?wired.?
>
> Suggestions for Accessibility:
> Print copies of unabridged contest announcements including the
detailed
> rules
> and ?traditional? contest report articles including line scores should
be
> available for those members who lack Internet access.
> Content produced for electronic distribution should also be published
on
> high-density, archival quality media, e.g. CD-ROM and DVD.
>
> Thinking Globally
>
> Contesters outside of the U.S. constitute a sizeable fraction of
today's
> contesting community. Anyone holding to the narrow view that ARRL
> sponsored
> contests are solely parochial affairs of interest to an exclusively
U.S.
> (or
> North American) audience is in error. Non-U.S. stations submitted 50%
of
> the
> logs received for the 2000 ARRL 10-Meter Contest; 55% of the logs for
the
> 2001
> ARRL International DX Contest; and 70% of the logs for the 2001 IARU
HF
> World
> Championships. In 2000, DX stations accounted for one-third of the
16,000
> contest logs processed by the ARRL Contest Branch and one-third of the
> scores
> printed in QST.
> Clearly, active contesters exist in substantial numbers around the
world
> yet
> they represent a virtually untapped market distinct from the ARRL?s
> traditional
> membership base. Like their U.S. counterparts, many international
> contesters
> are enthusiastic and excited about the prospects for expanded and
enhanced
> contest coverage being discussed. And they share an interest in
viewing
> such
> coverage.
>
> Historically, the costs of reaching a worldwide market using print
have
> been
> prohibitive, keeping demand to an absolute minimum. NCJ is not
marketed
> outside
> USA/Canada yet much of its content is relevant to contesters
worldwide.
> The
> very low distribution costs of electronic media now permit existing
> content and
> expanded coverage to efficiently reach a global audience.
>
> Suggestions for Connecting with A Global Audience:
> The ARRL offer non-U.S. contesters access to the expanded and enhanced
> contest
> coverage on the ARRL Web site; possibly in exchange for payment of an
> appropriate fee.
> Use e-mail addresses harvested from log submittals for the targeted
> marketing
> of expanded contest coverage, NCJ, membership, etc.
> Feature contests sponsored by sister IARU societies in reciprocity for
> similar
> exposure given to ARRL contests.
> Comb international sources for content. Acquire English language
rights to
> the
> best contest related content being produced worldwide.
> Cultivate international distribution channels and develop foreign
language
> outlets for ARRL contest coverage.
>
> Line Scores
>
> At present, line scores are the largest individual component of
contest
> coverage, occupying half the pages of contest reports in QST. Faced
with
> falling page counts and shrinking publication budgets but growing
> participation, we are forced to confront a nasty dilemma. Either
continued
> publication of line scores displaces all other aspects of contest
coverage
> from
> the pages of QST with contest reports being reduced to a listing of
scores
> and
> call signs. Or the contest related content that is best suited for
> distribution
> to a broad audience remains in QST with line scores relocated to the
Web.
>
> The guidelines in Proposal #1 are intended to be used as an aide when
> considering the optimal utilization of scarce resources. Several types
of
> content are judged by the Working Group as being better suited than
line
> scores
> for occupying a limited number of QST pages (see Table 1 in Proposal
#1).
> If
> the ARRL Board of Directors makes the determination to cut deeply into
the
> number of QST pages available for reporting contest results, an
> application of
> these guidelines would lead
> one to conclude that the least undesirable alternative is relocating
line
> scores to the Web. By using linkages and references, readership can be
> guided
> to the electronic media where line scores would be published in full
and
> possibly even in expanded form, as the 2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes
> results
> show.
>
> PROPOSAL #1 ? Allocation of Coverage to Print and Electronic Media
> Lead Author ? Ward Silver, N?AX
> Contributing Authors ? Michael Keane, K1MK and Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
>
> Scope
>
> This proposal addresses the general question of how to allocate the
> relative
> proportions of contest coverage between print and electronic media. No
> distinction is made between the different forms of either media (i.e.
?
> magazine vs. newsletter or Web page vs. email). No attempt is made to
> specify
> the details of coverage content or to rank the most valuable, most
> desirable or
> most enjoyable content.
>
> Purpose
>
> The purpose is to develop a set of general guidelines to provide
guidance
> to
> publishers for developing and distributing contest coverage material.
> Also, it
> may serve to encourage discussion about the development of new types
and
> forms
> of material.
>
> Background
>
> Currently, print media is the primary form for distributing contest
> information
> and results to the amateur radio community. Electronic media, however,
is
> rapidly becoming an accepted norm for distributing this type of
> information due
> to its cost advantages, timeliness and increasing public acceptance.
The
> question has become not if, but when and how much contest information
> should be
> made available electronically.
>
> In this rapidly changing environment, it is important that publishers
and
> readers have a good sense of each other?s needs. This document
attempts to
> provide information on the general types of contest coverage and the
> suitability of distributing each type of content in print or
electronic
> form.
> Print media is discussed as either General or Specialty. General
refers to
> media dealing with the full spectrum of ham radio, such as QST.
Specialty
> refers to publications aimed at contesters such as NCJ.
>
> Electronic media is discussed as either Push or Pull. Push refers to
> actively
> distributed formats, in which information is delivered to the consumer
at
> the
> initiative of the publisher ? the publisher is the active party.
Examples
> of
> push media include newsletters (email or print), bulletins and
broadcasts.
> Pull refers to passive sources of information, in which information is
> accessed
> or retrieved from the publisher at the initiative of the consumer ?
the
> reader
> is the active party. Examples of pull media include web pages,
bulletin
> boards,
> ftp sites, books, CD-ROMs and libraries.
>
> Coverage
>
> Contest announcements and results should be available in printed and
> digital
> media. An announcement is any advance notice that provides information
as
> the
> time, rules, awards, etc., about a specific contest. The results
include
> information describing any aspect of the contest that is distributed
after
> the
> contest.
> Table 1 shows the relative suitability of using each of these media to
> distribute specific announcement and results content; i.e. ? Is the
medium
> the
> one best suited to distribute this type of information to the target
> audience?
> The suitability of each content type is rated as high, limited or low.
The
> ratings attempt to account for all aspects of the medium including
cost,
> quality, readership, archival, timeliness, etc. The ratings are
defined as
> follows:
> High ? the medium is well suited to both the information and
the
> target audience.
> Limited ? the medium is not the best method for distribution
of
> the
> information to the target audience.
> Low ? the medium is poorly suited to the information, the
target
> audience or both; distribution of the information via this medium may
be
> inefficient, untimely or costly
>
> Table 1 ? General Allocation Guidelines
> OMITTED DUE TO FORMATTING PROBLEMS
>
> PROPOSAL #2 ? New Ideas for Contest-Specific and General Contesting
> Material
> Lead Author ? Brian D. Smith W9IND
> Contributing Authors ?Ward Silver N?AX, Gary Breed K9AY
>
> Scope
>
> This proposal discusses existing contest print coverage. New ideas for
> coverage
> are presented, both for print and electronic media. Details of
> implementation
> are not addressed, neither is the allocation of coverage between types
of
> media.
>
> Purpose
>
> The purpose of this proposal is to:
> Assess and critique current contest coverage in the print media.
> Suggest how to improve coverage in both print and electronic media.
> Contribute new ideas for coverage in multiple media.
>
> Background
>
> The ARRL Staff responsible for publishing a QST having fewer pages per
> issue
> has proposed to allocate the limited resources available for reporting
> contest
> results in ways that are appropriate for a general-readership, monthly
> magazine. This, they believe, would save money and create more space
for
> articles of greater general interest.
>
> The following proposal deals mainly with the latter objective. As
stated
> in
> Point 5 of the ?Joint Statement and Request of U.S. Contest Clubs on
the
> Proposal to Eliminate Detailed Contest Results from QST,? the
coalition of
> ARRL-affiliated contest clubs intends to assist QST in ?making such
> coverage
> more attractive and interesting to a much wider audience than has been
the
> case
> to date.?
>
> In striving to attain this goal, the lead author has drawn from about
a
> quarter
> century of professional journalism experience as a magazine editor,
> newspaper
> reporter and freelance writer. The approach of this proposal is
neither
> complex
> nor radical; it simply suggests journalistic techniques and angles
> traditionally used in the creation of newspaper and magazine feature
> stories,
> newswriting and sportswriting. These approaches are not unknown to
QST,
> but
> perhaps by utilizing them more often, the magazine would enhance its
> contest
> coverage.
>
> Critique of Existing Coverage
>
> QST?s current coverage includes the calls and scores of every entrant,
and
> in
> this respect, its articles could not be more thorough for anyone
seeking
> such
> information. The lead-in text that precedes the contest results is
often
> concise, matter-of-fact and esoteric, and perhaps more interesting to
> hard-core
> contesters than the average ham. As long as this is true, QST may find
it
> difficult to justify devoting so much space to contest coverage.
>
> Possible Alternatives
> QST could revamp the format of the coverage so that (1) the articles
are
> more
> interesting to non-contesters and (2) hams with little contesting
> experience
> are encouraged to get in the game.
>
> General Interest Coverage
>
> One alternative is to make the coverage more like a ?game story? found
on
> a
> sports page. For instance, rather than covering a contest from the
> standpoint
> of final scores (?Club ABC got 7.4 million points in the multi-multi
> category
> to edge Club XYZ, which scored 7.2 million?) ? as is typically done in
QST
> ?
> the magazine could approach it from a ?you are there? angle: ?Club
ABC?s
> contest effort almost ended before it began. Only three hours before
the
> start
> of the ARRL DX Contest, a severe thunderstorm packing 70 mph winds
sent
> their
> tallest antenna tumbling and the entire club scrambling. But a nifty
bit
> of
> improvisation put the station back on the air only 12 minutes before
> midnight
> in Greenwich ?,? etc. Stories like these would have universal appeal,
> regardless of whether the average reader cared deeply about
contesting.
>
> How to round up such information? The contest page on the ARRL Web
site
> already
> has a Soapbox, in which contesters can post their impressions,
complaints,
> reminiscences, anecdotes, etc., regarding each contest. All that?s
needed
> is to
> set up a similar Web site and inform contestants that QST is looking
for
> any
> good stories from the contest. Or the magazine could invite them to
e-mail
> this
> information. The author of the story could then scan the contributed
copy
> for
> the best tales. Many quotes could be lifted directly from the posts or
e-
> mails,
> and further information could be gathered via follow-up e-mail,
landline
> and/or
> even an on-air sked.
>
> New Approaches
>
> Looking more closely at newspaper sports sections, we find further
> inspiration
> and possibilities. We see that not everything on every page is a game
> story:
> There are also feature stories, profiles, personal columns and
?pre-games?
> (stories previewing important games and events ? for instance, ?The
Los
> Angeles
> Lakers may face their toughest challenge of the year when the Dallas
> Mavericks
> come to town Friday ??). The same elements and techniques that sustain
> sports
> pages across America could be employed in contesting coverage.
>
> Feature stories, a broad category, might include topics such as ?How
our
> club
> prepares for a multi-multi event? ? everything from how to recruit and
> schedule
> operators to what food and drink to keep in the fridge. There could be
> discussions of contesting tips and techniques: ?What to do when a
solar
> flare
> zaps the HF bands in the middle of a contest.?
>
> Profiles could run the gamut ? from the 88-year-old guy who organized
the
> first
> ARRL Whatever Contest to the club that?s won the last 10 CQWW
multi-multi
> titles.
> Personal columns could also include a broad range of topics, from
serious
> to
> humorous (?WPX: For once in my life, I?m as rare as Mongolia? by WY9A
? or
> ?How
> contesting enabled me to finally achieve DXCC?).
>
> ?Pre-games? would supplement the traditional pre-contest coverage,
which
> typically consists of a long list of rules and regulation. Such
> information is
> valuable to veteran contesters, but complicated and potentially off-
> putting to
> beginners. Naturally, no one wants to embarrass himself on the air, so
> many
> hams who might enjoy contesting may instead decide to forgo the
contest
> rather
> than risk ridicule.
>
> Attracting Newcomers
>
> Contesters are often viewed by non-contesters as insular and cliquish
(not
> to
> mention pushy). Undoubtedly, some contesters are less than courteous
in
> the
> heat of the battle. But as every contester knows, great scores depend
on
> great
> participation. We need the newcomers ? as many as we can get. So how
to
> make
> them feel welcome?
>
> QST and several Web sites publish information on upcoming contests,
but
> the
> rules may seem overly complex to the uninitiated. A better alternative
> might
> involve creating what?s known in the journalism business as a sidebar.
USA
> Today is fond of sidebars ? read a story about Barry Bonds? current
home
> run
> total and you might also see a sidebar about ?Most home runs in April
?
> all-time bests,? etc. Read any newspaper travel story and you?ll often
> find a
> sidebar that summarizes the key information: ?Destination: Louisville,
> Kentucky. Major tourist attractions: Located on the Ohio River, home
of
> Churchill Downs ?? etc.
>
> It is this user-friendly format ? the sidebar, which would accompany
the
> ?pre-game? write-up ? that would work best in attracting newcomers to
> contesting. Instead of having to wade through a plethora of technical
> data, a
> rookie contester could simply glance at the sidebar and learn
instantly
> what
> the contest was about and how to participate in it, even if he or she
had
> only
> a couple of hours to do so.
>
> Here?s how it might work (?Announced DXpeditions? might lure non-
> contesting
> DXers who are chasing DXCC and other awards):
> Contest: ARRL International DX Contest
> How to participate: Get on any of the HF bands except the WARC bands.
If
> you?re
> in the United States or Canada, you can?t work any station in either
> country ?
> look for DX stations only. For DX stations, the same applies in
reverse.
> What to say: Give a signal report and your state (for Americans),
province
> (for
> Canadians) or power in watts (DX stations).
> Announced DXpeditions: HK?HAM, San Andes Island, CT3QRP, Madeira
Islands,
> etc.
> Quirks: Split operation on 40 because DX stations are assigned to
> different
> frequencies, etc.
> Best reason to participate: You can attain DXCC in one weekend.
> Relative challenge: Easy for all. (Note: An EME contest would
obviously
> get a
> different answer.)
> Web links: http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2002/intldx.html
> Records: Yet another way to increase interest in contesting is to
stoke
> hams?
> competitive fires. How to do that? Create a Web site that provides
easy
> access
> to every record in every major contest. A good reference for records
would
> list
> more than the ?top? result in a particular category. By publishing
many
> results near the top (e.g., top 10, or all of the past results within
10%
> of
> the current high spot), competitors can try to sneak into the listing
even
> though conditions might not permit them to break an all-time record.
An
> excellent reference would contain links to more material: the actual
log,
> technical detail about the station which made the record, operator
> background,
> etc.
>
> This will give potential contest entrants a great many targets to
shoot at
> ?
> and might very well convince a casual contester to go at it for the
full
> 48
> hours. A ham who knows only the single-op, all-band record might say,
?Oh
> well,
> no way am I going to beat that. So I?ll just do a few hours here and
> there.?
> But what if W8HAM discovered that the CQWW 8-land single-op assisted
> record for
> 10 meters was tantalizingly low? That puts a different spin on things,
> doesn?t
> it?
>
> New Ideas for Coverage
>
> Story Ideas: The final part of our proposal offers story ideas that
> (hopefully)
> will interest a general audience. The following is a list of 20
potential
> stories or sidebars that could be included with contest coverage.
There
> are
> obviously many other possibilities.
>
> Trend stories ? ?20 percent of all contesting records were broken in
the
> year
> 2000,? etc. A snapshot of where contesting is going.
> A feature story about the op who holds more contest records than
anyone
> alive.
> The superstations: A guide to the greatest contest stations in
America/the
> world. Perhaps a sidebar on the tallest ham antennas in existence
(used in
> contesting).
> The best contesting conditions in history. (Consider sunspots,
weather,
> rare DX
> stations competing, etc.) A nostalgia piece loaded with anecdotes
about
> how
> sweet it was.
> You are there: A weekend with a championship contest team, from
planning
> to
> take-down.
> The world?s best contest location(s). (Not stations ? this story would
> give
> scientific reasons for why, say, a place next to salt water is better
than
> a
> spot in the middle of Midwest farm country. Or why a QTH on the East
Coast
> is
> ideal for working Europe on several bands (or whatever).
> Wild weather. Hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards and other examples of
> nature?s
> wrath ? and how their inopportune appearances ruined some major
contests
> or
> contesting efforts.
> Profile of a ham who contests only with homebrew equipment. Or antique
> equipment.
> How to work your way up to the big leagues. What separates a good
> contester
> from a rookie? How do you work several stations a minute? What are the
> most
> common mistakes a newcomer makes?
> How to organize a multi-multi effort. Everything from scheduling to
> feeding the
> troops.
> How to secure a great contesting QTH. A guide to the best locations,
and
> perhaps a list of specific sites that rent to hams and are already
> equipped
> with antennas.
> Big guns with little signals. A feature story about the best QRP
> contesters,
> and what they do right.
> The case for contesters. Why shouldn?t America?s biggest and best
stations
> form
> the backbone of the nation?s civil defense/emergency response efforts?
> Point/counterpoint: Examining the age-old issue of contest QRM versus
> ?it?s
> only one weekend?/?why don?t you ragchew on the WARC bands??
> On a similar note, a story about the fact that some contesters have
been
> cited
> by the FCC for deliberate interference during a contest. Is this truly
> fair,
> given the fact that some have said they couldn?t even hear the
stations
> they
> were supposedly QRMing?
> A brief history of contesting. How did it all start?
> Back when. Interviews with the oldest living contesters, and what
> contesting
> was like in their day.
> The lean years. How can you enjoy contesting when the sunspot count is
at
> or
> near zero? What?s the best strategy?
> Which band is best? A guide to choosing the best band for a
single-band
> contesting effort. How do the sunspot count, the A index, the weather,
> etc.,
> help determine the answer?
> Overcomers. Not necessarily the best contesters, just the most
inspiring
> ones,
> such as a ham who suffered a stroke but nevertheless fires up the rig
as
> part
> of his therapy, etc.
>
> Multimedia - Audio and Video
>
> Electronic media creates entirely new opportunities for contest
coverage.
> Not
> only can traditional presentations be distributed at vastly lower
expense
> and
> with higher volume, they can include new types of information as well.
> Audio
> and video recordings, as well as interactive graphics, can bring
> completely new
> dimensions to contest coverage. The ARRL is already providing audio
> recordings
> of QSOs in association with other Web coverage, for example.
>
> Contest coverage would greatly benefit from the following types of
> multimedia
> presentations:
> Audio recordings of contest QSOs
> Audio/video recordings of elements associated with the contest (pre-,
> during,
> and post-contest)
> Photo ?stills? and slide shows
> Interviews with the experts
> Live and still graphics generated by the ARRL and by entrants
>
> Because the amount of effort to create this type of information is
> substantial,
> it is strongly recommended that the ARRL provide a hosting facility
for
> contest
> entrants to contribute or post their own information as is currently
done
> with
> Soapbox. The size and duration of the postings could be limited to
manage
> the
> amount of data space required. The issue of reviewing each post for
> appropriate
> content would also have to be addressed.
>
> Because these new coverage elements are quite rich in content, they
are
> also
> likely to generate discussion and comment by the viewers. In order to
> focus the
> discussion, it would be useful to create a posting service on the
contest
> Web
> site where individual comments could be posted for public comment.
>
> Viewers will have widely divergent access bandwidths ranging from 28.8
> kbps
> dial-ups to broadband. If possible, server technology capable of
sensing
> link
> capability (or allowing the user to specify the link characteristics)
> should be
> used for distribution of the larger elements. An alternative would be
to
> provide large and small versions of elements, where practical.
>
> PROPOSAL #3 ? On-Line Distribution of Contest Data
> Lead Author ? Ward Silver, N?AX
> Contributing Authors ? Michael Keane, K1MK and Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
>
> Scope
>
> This proposal describes the types of contest data that should be made
> publicly
> available on-line. Detailed data formats are not covered.
>
> Purpose
>
> This document is a summary of ideas and suggestions contributed by
> individuals
> in the contesting community. It is hoped it will serve to stimulate
> discussion
> and produce more ideas.
>
> Background
>
> Until very recently, the only type of contest data available to
> contestants was
> printed and PDF documents that tabulated the scores of class leaders,
gave
> selected entrant breakdowns, and provided line scores of all entrants.
> Contest
> data in a digital form suitable for doing detailed post-contest
analysis
> has
> not been available. With the advent of the Web it is has become
> technically
> easy and cost-effective to make contest data available to everyone in
a
> format
> suitable for analysis. The excellent 2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes
> reportage
> clearly points the way to making improved data sets available.
>
> We expect that detailed post-contest analysis will assist individuals
and
> the
> contesting community as a whole in gaining a deeper understanding and
> appreciation of what transpires during a contest. Ideally, making data
> available will spur novel ideas that lead to creative improvements.
>
> Machine-Readable Results
>
> Quantitative contest results that are normally presented in the
printed or
> PDF
> documents, such as line scores, leader boxes, records, etc., should
also
> be
> made available as machine-readable tables of data. In order to perform
> accurate
> and detailed contest analysis the following data is of particular
interest
> to
> the contesting community:
> The output of the log checking process for any entry
> Supplementary details about a contestant?s equipment and precise
> geographic
> location (e.g. Maidenhead grid locator or latitude-longitude
coordinates)
> Data that is provided should be in common formats suitable for
importing
> into
> standard logging programs, databases and spreadsheet packages.
Examples of
> such
> formats would be Cabrillo format for log data and CSV or tab delimited
> format
> for tabular.
>
> The following sections list the individual data elements recommended
to be
> present in each type of data.
> Log Data
> Summary (Header)
> Station and operator call signs
> Entry Class
> Geographical Region
> Other contest-specific grouping criteria
> QSO data
> Time and Date
> Band
> Mode
> Exchange (Sent & Received)
> Log checking output
> TBD
> Entry Supplemental Data
> Station and operator call signs
> Entry Class
> Geographical Region
> Equipment Summary
> Other contest-specific grouping criteria
>
> We note that the techniques and tools for providing on-line resources
are
> evolving rapidly. On-line resources are also likely to create a demand
for
> new
> types of data, as well. These recommendations are only a start.
>
> Third-Party Analysis
>
> Contest analysis provided by individual entrants should be accompanied
by
> supporting data tables, graphic objects, and program descriptions or
> ideally,
> the programs themselves. The sponsor may also create novel analysis
> metrics
> that are made available electronically via a database.
>
> Examples of Novel Metrics:
> Evaluation of geographical impact on performance
> Propagation analysis based on geographical data
> Accuracy metrics and comparisons
> Operator ranking and rating systems
> Comparative performance-over-time (horse races)
>
> Open Access to Results & Data
>
> Currently some contest content, e.g. expanded coverage for the 2001
ARRL
> November Sweepstakes, is available only on the members-only section of
the
> ARRL
> Web site. While other content, e.g. PDF versions of the contest report
> articles
> from QST, is placed initially on the members-only section for a
> proprietary use
> period prior to its publication in QST. Open access is granted after
the
> article appears in QST and the PDF files are moved to the general user
> section
> of the Web site.
>
> It is appropriate for the bulk of enhanced and expanded contest
coverage,
> including narrative articles, leader boxes, contest analysis, video,
> audio,
> etc., to remain on the members-only section of the ARRL Web site. Some
> content
> may be released for general consumption after an appropriate
proprietary
> period
> at the ARRL?s discretion.
>
> However, it is strongly recommended that open access, or at least
access
> for
> all contest participants, to some minimum set of data be provided. And
> that
> access is granted to these data as soon as they become available.
>
> Suggested Components for An Open Access Data Set:
> Log data
> Line scores in machine-readable form
> Publication of Log Data
>
> The DX community frowns upon providing public access to log data that
> includes
> full QSO details. Such access is seen as enabling a form of ?data
mining?
> that
> would allow an unscrupulous station to claim credit for a log entry
that
> in
> truth represents a busted QSO.
>
> Suggestions for Insuring Integrity:
> Release log data only to individuals who submit a log themselves
> Prohibit the further redistribution of log data by recipient
> Do not release log data until log checking process is completed.
> Investigate ways for ARRL Contest Branch to share log checking results
> with the
> DXCC Program and Logbook of the World project.
>
> Privacy Issues
>
> As important as what data should be available is insuring that
sensitive
> personal information is not released. While certain personal
information
> such
> as a licensee?s name and mailing address is currently included in the
log
> that
> an entrant submits, this information is already a matter of public
record
> and
> readily available from multiple sources. Other, potentially more
> sensitive,
> personal information about the entrant is not included in the log at
> present
> and it is our recommendation that this should continue to be the case.
>
> Suggestion to Safeguard Privacy:
> Personal data that is not readily available from a public source
should
> not be
> published or released.
>
> Preserving Participation
>
> The mandatory release of log data as a condition of entry may cause
> certain
> contesters either to forgo participating in a contest or, if they do
> participate, to not submit a log.
>
> Suggestions for Preserving Participation:
> Include a mechanism in the log submittal process so that each entrant
must
> affirmatively authorize the publication and release of their log data.
> Allow individuals to ?opt out? of sharing their log data without being
> penalized.
>
>
>
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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>From K4BEV at aol.com Sat Jul 27 12:39:37 2002
From: K4BEV@aol.com (K4BEV@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
Message-ID: <7c.2b888381.2a7418b9@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/27/02 10:11:36 Central Daylight Time, k1ttt@arrl.net
writes:
> instead of just listing logs received, publish the claimed scores as they
> arrive.
While the above is an outstanding idea, the Cabrillo format doesn't include
that information. It could, however, be included in the subject line of the
log submission, or the format could possibly (?) be changed to include it.
Along with the claimed score I like seeing the number of contacts made and
mult total.
73, Don - K4BEV
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>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Sat Jul 27 12:58:53 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207271153320.8970-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
I believe the most important aspect of getting the results out just before
the next running of the event is that it serves to motivate people to
operate again more effectively. IMO, the League would help their contests
by delaying their printed results.
When am I thinking about CW SS? Not in April.
73
Bill, W4AN
>From jfunk at adams.net Sat Jul 27 11:49:33 2002
From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 15 days...not yet....
Message-ID: <033c01c23586$b6abd700$e8248ad8@adams.net>
Though I am in sympathy with the desire to speed contest results to view, I
find the proposal to drop the log submission deadline to 15 days
post-contest to be in potential conflict with *last week's goal* of
recruiting new contesters.
Several times in the last year or so, I have had new contesters operate a
contest and then hand-deliver their paper logs to me so I could type them
into TrLog and submit them electronically. Some of them don't have
computers (gaack!), some don't have e-mail, some of them don't have logging
programs, and some just didn't know how to handle the logs
post-contest....yet. They are learning. OTOH, they all were willing to
spend a bit of time in the contest and submit the results...somehow; and
they are invariably thrilled to see their calls in print (oops...we've been
there).
I'm not sure *I* can deal with that extra step (or two) and still make
a 15-day deadline. What I *am* sure about is that we don't want to lose
these guys/gals that are just testing the contesting waters.
Fifteen days? Not yet, please.
73, Jim N9JF
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sat Jul 27 10:46:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207271646.g6RGkQH27614@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Rover LP
N4PN 676 75 400 57 20 20,876
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
KN4Y 591 0 42 0 12 49,644 FCG
N4GG 78 10 64 10 9 12,284 PVRC
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
K8MR 52 4 39 4 4,644 MRRC
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NJ8J 43 7 21 7 3 2,604 SECC
W4SAA 27 0 23 0 2 1,242 FCG
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op QRP
NJ4X/7 32 0 31 0 3 1,984
K8GU(@K8GU/P) 8 0 8 0 1 128 MRRC
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 2 15 SECC
Operators:
(none)
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sat Jul 27 10:47:40 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207271647.g6RGleE27623@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
KB8U 227 99 17 30,888
K3DNE 167 69 10 15,732 PVRC
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
K8CC 130 72 6.5 12,240 MRRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE3KZ 126 66 9,570 Ontario VHF Associat
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
K0UK 2 2 27 6 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/2 QRP
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
HS0XNO 97 2 9 388
HS5SYH 25 2 2 100
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 LP
K8KFJ 26 19 6 494
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 QRP
N3AWS 5 4 3 20
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sat Jul 27 10:50:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207271650.g6RGoZn27638@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
W6YX 446 156 10 69,576 NCCC
W1GZ 252 112 10 28,224
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
VA3DX 361 145 10 53,067
W1ZT 373 134 10 49,982 YCCC
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 9 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
9A5W(@9A1A) 301 107 9 32,207
WB4EQS 259 124 32,116
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
AI9T 251 123 10 30,873
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K7ZUM 241 118 7 28,438 WVDXC
N1NB 240 105 8 25,200
K4PX 225 111 10 24,975
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
W4BCG 222 107 9 23,754 TCG
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
K6XT 213 98 9 20,874
W6ZL(BIGWAVE) 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
KD8FS 195 97 5 18,915
LP7H(LU9HS) 227 76 10 17,252
K3FH 176 98 9 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 7 14,964
IT9BLB 186 78 10 14,508 TIKIRRIKI CONTEST CL
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
K5AM 169 78 4 13,182
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
K1XX 161 78 9 12,090
IK0HBN 150 57 10 8,550
WB0O 110 71 2 7,810
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 3 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K9SZ 48 33 1,584
K6OWL 46 34 3 1,564
XE2AC 42 27 3 1,134
F6FJE 24 23 6 552
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
W1GZ N1MGO,WN1E
W6YX K6ENT,N6DE,W6ZZZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sat Jul 27 11:00:33 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207271700.g6RH0Xp27651@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
K8LX 456 0 169 6 304,538
W7GG 362 300 44 9 265,742
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 116 19 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 21 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
K9TM 901 0 109 13 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
AI9T 102 51 15,810
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO CW LP
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
W4BCG 75 0 40 6 9,400 TCG
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
K6XX 1264 247 179 23 1,030,682 NCCC
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 19 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
K1HT 399 123 139 9 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 5 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 13 10,701 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO SSB LP
NQ4U 0 235 49 8 81,498 TCG
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
S50HQ 4493 4185 416 24 11,710,400
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
J75KG 1654 661 192 24 1,776,768 FCG
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
DF0RU 775 663 227 22 1,116,031 Berlin-DX-Group
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S LP
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
PJ2E(N1UR) 2211 0 198 24 2,067,034 YCCC
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 20 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
DH7KU 550 0 66 16 134,640 DK0UN University Rad
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
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Non-USA SO CW LP
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
OH/W6YA 770 0 159 354,570
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
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Non-USA SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RK4FF 1594 846 325 24 2,637,700
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 23 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
UY5ZZ 991 304 123 956,032
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 15 463,606 HSDXA
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 8 402,327
XE2AC 225 598 90 8 257,760
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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Non-USA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
VE4YU 360 232 61 19 270,750
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 8 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
SV1DNW 132 58 84 12 43,008
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
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Non-USA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
DF1DX 141 114 92 13 71,300 RR DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 23 2,342,130 Other (specify when
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
RN4LP 1505 251 24 1,175,433
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
FM5GU 0 1492 99 10 609,246
S57UN(@S52ZW) 430 5 117,432 SCC
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
SV1DKL 0 683 183 18 416,325
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 162,047
DL4RCK 286 72 8 98,412 BCC
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
DF0RU DH2UHF,DK3WW,DL1AXL,DL7BY,DL7UBA,DL7UFP,DL7UTM
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
W7GG K7ZUM,KC7TWZ,W7GG
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 27 11:59:32 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Recruiting 101
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207270041390.22765-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <20020727175932.97309.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com>
Where is K9PG when you need him ???? Paul... you going to be doing
some publicizing of the NAQP for next weekend ??????
73's Jeff
--- "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com> wrote:
>
>
> I'm now involved with recruiting members for next weekend's NAQP CW
> contest. I'm having some success recently recruiting people to
> operate
> the CW Sprint and NAQP contests, and thought I might pass on some
> hints in
> hopes that other clubs will also have success recruiting members for
> contests.
>
> 1) Announce your intentions here on CQ-Contest and club mail
> reflectors.
> Normally I find this to be mildly successful. Be sure to mention
> that you
> are not just looking for serious operators... that you are fielding
> teams
> of part-timer ops too.
>
> 2) The best technique I have found is contacting each person directly
> by
> e-mail personally. I follow the same method as is #1 and normally
> put in
> some kind of note about us trying to show up some other club or
> something
> else that we can all get our heads around.
>
> 3) Finding Members. I first look at old results for the contest in
> question. Then I move to other contests. For instance, I've had
> really
> good luck this time recruiting guys that operate the ARRL 160 and 10
> meter
> contests as well as CW SS. The results are on the web, and almost
> everyone has an email address that can easily be had on eHam.net or
> QRZ.com. These are also contests that are more domestic in nature,
> which
> is right up the alley of the NAQP.
>
> 4) Finding More Members. Team work! I ask everyone on our teams to
> recruit just one other person to be a member of the teams. This has
> worked very well in the past, as there is no way I can know every
> potential operator in the 4th call area.
>
> 5) Organization. I'm now keeping everyone's callsign, name, etc, in
> a
> database so I can quickly refer to it the next running of the
> contest.
>
> 6) Post cards. Some of the Sprint regulars have recently taken up
> writing
> potential operators post cards in an effort to remind them of a
> contest.
> I personally find email with the expressed intent of joining a team
> is
> more effective.
>
> 7) Team placement competition. Back in the early 80s there was this
> phenom called the Midwest Popguns organzied by Joe (W8LNO) and Tom
> (N0SS) for the CW Sprint. Team placement was based on your finish in
> the
> prior contest. The Popguns fieleded several teams, and I recall
> being
> highly motivated to move from team last to team next. We are just
> starting with this here in W4 for next month's Sprint.
>
> So far I have 22 guys signed up for next weekend. The TCG and FCG
> are
> also fielding at least 2 teams each. I figure we'll have more than
> 50
> guys from W4 active to some degree or another! Now think how much
> fun the
> contest would be if this could be nearly duplicated across 10 call
> areas!
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
>
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>From k2av at contesting.com Sat Jul 27 15:38:44 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207271153320.8970-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <001d01c2359c$d66838c0$0500a8c0@swift>
For operating at a multi, the biggest help is to get the final score
(and the ubn's, etc.) back so the guys can go through it and formulate
ideas for the next time while
1) we can still remember what was going on in the contest
2) while there's still time to engineer and implement changes for
the next one (which is not necessarily the SAME contest a year hence).
Ain't NO big rush at all. We're not dealing with anything that's a
RUSH here.
Just trying to get rid of the obnoxious, brain-numbing, slower than
molasses at the North Pole at Christmas, DELAY in seeing what you did
that we have been putting up with since forever. And get rid of AS
MUCH of the delay as is possible.
Imagine boarding a plane October 30 and not knowing if you made it to
your destination until the next September. Instead you get off the
plane and you have to call Dink to see what country your plane landed
in.
Imagine having a Christmas present under your tree, but you can't open
it until next Thanksgiving.
Imagine closing on a house, starting the payments, paying the
insurance, but not being allowed to move in for ten months.
Instead, for reasons increasingly ENTIRELY artificial, doing a contest
is like starting a pregnancy. Lot of fun in a hurry, but you're going
to wait nine months to see what happened.
Even 30 days is a DELAY, no matter which way you add it up. Even for
the Post Office, 30 days is unacceptable.
Having the scores ready at Noon, Monday, next day after the contest,
THAT'S a rush.
73, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 11:58 AM
Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
> I believe the most important aspect of getting the results out just
before
> the next running of the event is that it serves to motivate people
to
> operate again more effectively. IMO, the League would help their
contests
> by delaying their printed results.
>
> When am I thinking about CW SS? Not in April.
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
>
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>From n7mal at citlink.net Sat Jul 27 19:54:17 2002
From: n7mal@citlink.net (N7MAL)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
References: <200207270224.g6R2O1hF032150@contesting.com>
<05da01c23517$89c05b40$03010a0a@office1>
<001d01c2353f$1f5b8ae0$7c6f7e42@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <003101c2359f$0efb0800$41c043d8@n7mal1>
I could not agree with my friend, Jim, more. In fact here is an excerpt from
reply sent directly to Trey: "Hi Trey; your plan, of course, is flawless.
BUT why do we want or need it? The old system has worked perfectly for many
years. Why do we need instant
gratification? Your argument by the time results are published we forgot
what we operated in is, at best, ludicrous. I believe, down to my toes, the
wait for the results promotes interest rather than reduce interest. I go
back to the days of paper logs"...blah blah blah......"You are making and
suggesting changes for the sake of making changes and to overturn a
perfectly working system for those
motivations is absurd."......blah blah blah....
Trey is not suggesting making the system better he is making it faster, for
reasons I still don't understand, let alone agree with. He has done
marvelous work getting the Cabrillo system up and running and should receive
kudos' from all of us for that improvement. Getting as many humans out of
the system as possible was a good thing.
Sometimes slowing down and smelling the roses aint such a bad thing.
MAL N7MAL
BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Neiger" <n6tj@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 07:27
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
> I guess I agree with Ron:
>
> Even if we can maybe hasten the time to the final results, What's the Big
> Rush? Its worked so well for so many years, why do we now think it's
> broken?
>
> Just because many things in our lives CAN and DO go faster, does
everything
> have to?
>
> For many years, the speed limit was 55 MPH. Then they cranked it back up
to
> 65, and in some places even 70. Now, if you're not doing at least 80 on
the
> 91 Freeway, hey buddy, get out of the way. Does that make our lives
> necessarily "better"?
>
> I recall when I was thrilled with my first computer, humming along at a
nice
> 16 MHz. Now I'm wondering if my new 1.3 GHz notebook is fast enough?
Give
> me a break, please..........
>
> Everything today is about speed, speed, speed. Even when driving in Italy
> or Germany, do I take a relaxed tour @ 100 km/hour so I might actually SEE
> some of the beautiful countryside? Nah, I've got to try and COMPETE with
> the locals, and crank it up to 200 km/hr (at least). Is my quality of
life
> better by doing so? I think not. It's just dumb, dumb, dumb.
>
> Now we're led to believe, we can't live without INSTANTANEOUS
GRATIFICATION
> on our contest victory?
>
> If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But it's very thoughtful of The Kid (as
> Trey is known around this household) to worry that we old guys may not be
> around long enough for the final results.
>
> The meaningfulness of the answer, for me, far exceeds the quest for
> expediency, in this case.
>
> Vy 73
>
> Jim Neiger
> N6TJ
>
>
>
> >
> > Considering the outcry last year when (under the dubious excuse of
safety
> of
> > the mail) CQ Magazine forced all of us to enter only by electronic
means,
> to
> > now propose to "force" contest entrants to rush in their logs and then
> > "force" the contest committee to rush compilation in another 2 weeks
> strikes
> > me as being too hasty.
> >
> > Are we all so impatient that reducing the turn-around time between
contest
> &
> > results from 6-8 months for the ARRL, and 8-10 months for CQ (just to
pick
> > on two) to under 2 months isn't enough, but we're going to try to
> force-feed
> > it to 6 or even 4 weeks?
> >
> > Remember, we're not dealing with a "closed" environment like the WRTC
> > competitions, where you have a relative small number of stations (50 or
> > less) competing for 24 hours. Compiling those results in a few hours is
a
> > piece of cake. We're talking about 48 hour contests that literally
> involve
> > thousands, if not tens of thousands, of amateurs -- many of whom never
> have
> > or will send in logs, which always leave question marks about "uniques"
> and
> > "busted calls" and other potential problems to sort out.
> >
> > Further, you must remember that in much of the world outside of North
> > America and Europe, Internet access is not as accessible nor as cheap as
> it
> > is here. I would not be at all surprised to learn that there are many
> > active contesters who have a computer in the shack, yet prefer to mail
> their
> > results in via a disk for whatever reasons.
> >
> > I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
> > positive way to encourage more potential contesters. I think if we rise
> the
> > bar too high, we make the goal too difficult, it will do the exact
> opposite
> > by discouraging potential contesters and some of the active and less
> active
> > ones out there.
> >
> > I also would question the ability to compile scores, even with
automation,
> > in a day or two. Pending data to prove that one way or another, that
> > strikes me as being more than a bit optimistic. Can someone on one of
the
> > major contest committees comment on whether or not automation makes one
or
> > two days practical?
> >
> > I am not saying that Trey's proposed 15 day deadline is a bad idea. But
I
> > don't think we're quite ready for it yet. One thing at a time.
> >
> > 73, ron wn3vaw
> >
> > "What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of
> our
> > time?" -- Howard Beale
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
> > To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
scores
> > decision)
> >
> > > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble
and
> > > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > > Tell me if
> > > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the
> contest
> > > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > No, it's not good enough.
> >
> > I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> > entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a
> tad
> > more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now
> have,
> > 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> > that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves
most
> of
> > that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
> >
> > You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it
later.
> > When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal
> and
> > then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
> >
> > I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
> >
> > Gary W2CS
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
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> >
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>From K4BEV at aol.com Sat Jul 27 16:23:50 2002
From: K4BEV@aol.com (K4BEV@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
Message-ID: <cd.1ae6f65f.2a744d46@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/27/02 11:12:56 Central Daylight Time, K4BEV@aol.com
writes:
> the Cabrillo format doesn't include that information
I looked at a submitted log and didn't see the Claimed Score.
It IS there though.
SRI,
Don - K4BEV
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>From headrick at radar.nrl.navy.mil Sat Jul 27 20:42:25 2002
From: headrick@radar.nrl.navy.mil (James Headrick)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Contest Coverage Working Group Guidelines and
Proposals
In-Reply-To: <t83ad26ssmyfq07.270720020826@designet-jsi>
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20020727191849.031f7580@radar.nrl.navy.mil>
Jim, the people that look at this reflector have pretty short attention
spans and don't like to examine in depth. Your 'Guidelines and Proposals'
is 15 pages long!! jim w3cp
>From n2mg at eham.net Sat Jul 27 17:43:52 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
References: <cd.1ae6f65f.2a744d46@aol.com>
Message-ID: <008401c235ae$52b6f9a0$3201a8c0@mikehome>
>From kc5ajx at hotmail.com Sat Jul 27 21:49:27 2002
From: kc5ajx@hotmail.com (Rick Bullon)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Porposal for new contest sponsors
Message-ID: <F73Tlm70rM3TbhyF2fP00021f65@hotmail.com>
We have the technology today that there
is not a need for national organizations like the ARRL or a magazine
like CQ need to sponsor our contests. Most of those who check the logs
and are sponsoring the awards are donating their time to do this
anyway.
Jeff
I agree with Jeff. What does the contest sponsors really do? They make the
rules for the contest ( and are reluctant to change them if we suggest
changes) and they report the results but only for the members or subscribers
at first.
We have the means and opportunity to make contesting into what we want it to
be after all are not the contests really our contest and not theirs? They
are not really interested in the contests, they see it as a means to get
members or subscribers, and they can still do this by publishing articles
about the contests and let us run them.
Here is what I propose
Take control of the contests and move the ARRL and CQ mag from sponsors to
reviewers
If we could get a web page on one of the contest servers then we would not
need the ARRL or CQ mag for contests
We have the CAC but they can only suggest changes in the rules. Why not have
them make and change the rules based on feedback from us the contesters.
The awards are sponsored and distributed by volunteers so we need to help
them do a better job (suggestions here please). I do admit the Dan N1ND at
the ARRL contest section does an excellent job we do need him and his
assistants. Is it possible to get Dan to do this outside of the ARRL?
I am not sure who does the awards for the CQ contests but I know their
record for getting awards and plaques to the winner's is not very good. What
needs to be done to help them do a better job???
As far as log checking I believe that Tree N6TR wrote the log checking
software for most of the contests and he wrote the software for the robot
for log submissions I am not sure who owns the rights to the software, but
if we could get this software and something like what the ARRL is doing on
the website to report the scores it would be great. Who did the programming
on the ARRL web page?
I also like K1TTT's suggestion of real time reporting in the internet. The
WRTC team proved it can be done on a small scale can't it be done for a
larger contest?? Some might say that real time reports like what the WRTC
did would promote cheating but I think that those who cheat will always find
a way to break the rules and that the cheaters are few compared to the
numbers of honest contesters.
I think over all that the changes the ARRL has made on their website is
great but the resource they provide there should be available to all
contesters not not to the members only. I understand why they do it that way
but I feel the membership in the ARRL is more than the contests
they do a great job and we need them for what they do. I don't think that
making the contest site available to all will hurt membership, but it is
becoming and valuable tool to contesting, either open it up to all or let it
be moved to a contest site like I proposed above
Another idea I have is after the contest deadline for logs be it 15 or 30
days, that the logs submitted be available on line in a form we can sort
like we can sort the scores are on the ARRL website this way we can digest
what the other stations are doing and when to help us be better in the next
contest.
These are just my suggestions feel free to tear it apart and discuss it.
Maybe we can come up with a resource for all to use to make contesting
better for us all.
73
Rick
KC5AJX
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>From n3bb at mindspring.com Sat Jul 27 16:39:56 2002
From: n3bb@mindspring.com (Jim George)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] N5KO's proposal to shorten the results availability
Message-ID: <v02120d0ab968c35abc1c@EIM-Mac-1.5tcp>
In general, I support Trey's efforts. "If you're not making progress,
you're moving backwards." The points by Dave, G4BUO, regarding more time
for overseas logs seems like a valid point, but as a general rule, people
either prepare their contest results right away, or put if off until the
deadline, when they have forgotten the details. For me, a 30 days period
to get in the results from anywhere in the world by postal mail is
adequate, and this should enable the results to be analyzed and posted on
the internet sooner. The magazine articles can come sooner as well.
73,
Jim
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Sat Jul 27 16:47:34 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Porposal for new contest sponsors
References: <F73Tlm70rM3TbhyF2fP00021f65@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <00fc01c235b7$37bb1510$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
>I agree with Jeff. What does the contest sponsors really do? They make the
>rules for the contest ( and are reluctant to change them if we suggest
>changes) and they report the results but only for the members or
subscribers
>at first.
>We have the means and opportunity to make contesting into what we want it
to
>be after all are not the contests really our contest and not theirs? They
>are not really interested in the contests, they see it as a means to get
>members or subscribers, and they can still do this by publishing articles
>about the contests and let us run them.
Very strong ideas - I like many of them!
I, like you, think that the contest community could evolve into a sort of
"open source contest scoring and analysis community". I also think that much
of what you are saying will come to pass fairly soon but probably not right
at the moment. It will take a bit of time for the momentum to build. You
might find that some of your suggestions are embedded - but not
transparently - in the proposal we recently placed before the ARRL BoD. Have
a look at the section on 3rd party activities and availability of contest
logs in http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
If contestant logs were made available to 3rd parties any number of
different rule sets can be tried and tested on them giving us an opportunity
to explore new rules without disturbing the 'classic' rules for the time
being. In fact, as a community all we really need to do is submit our logs
to the contest sponsor and to a central public repository. However, it would
be nice if we did not have to duplicate our efforts. Thus the proposal to
the ARRL BoD proposes that ARRL contest logs be made available to 3rd
parties provided certain privacy & security issues are respected. Also
contestants should be allowed to "opt out" of making their logs available to
3rd parties Open source logs with open source scoring and analysis software
could open many unique doors for us to explore the future face of contesting
now!
I say - let the evolution begin! :-)
.. sylvan
????
----------------
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Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
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>From n6ws at charter.net Sat Jul 27 15:55:33 2002
From: n6ws@charter.net (Bill Shell)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Station in CO or NM
Message-ID: <BGECJAFKJHPEIEKNBLKMIEIGECAA.n6ws@charter.net>
Hello All,
Are there any contest stations in Northern New Mexico or Southern Colorado
planning for a multi-single or multi-multi operation during CQWW CW? I'm
planning on being in the Trinidad, CO area during the contest, and would
like to participate with a group in the area.
73, Bill
N6WS
n6ws@charter.net
>From kshaddri at xtratyme.com Sat Jul 27 18:15:37 2002
From: kshaddri@xtratyme.com (Kelley Shaddrick)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 10-10 Contest Antennas
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020727171203.00a17e70@mail.xtratyme.com>
Anyone have any thoughts on antennas for the upcoming 10-10 contest? What
is all around best, vertical, dipole, ground plane? I've currently got an
all band inverted V at about 50 feet and a vertical mounted on a chain link
fence. While I'd love to have a beam, not in the cards for this year. What
can I add to improve my chances of additional contacts?
Thanks,
Kelley - W?RK
>From w7ti at dslextreme.com Sat Jul 27 16:51:58 2002
From: w7ti@dslextreme.com (Bill Turner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Porposal for new contest sponsors
In-Reply-To: <F73Tlm70rM3TbhyF2fP00021f65@hotmail.com>
References: <F73Tlm70rM3TbhyF2fP00021f65@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <rm86kug8qrgc38f5tf4eg005e00gt6ufju@4ax.com>
On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:49:27 +0000, Rick Bullon wrote:
> What does the contest sponsors really do?
_________________________________________________________
Having a contest sponsored by an organization ensures continuity
over time, at least while the organization endures. To "take"
the contest away from the organization and place it in the hands
of volunteers who come and go guarantees the contest will
fragment and disappear in a short while.
Bill, W7TI
>From k8cc at comcast.net Sat Jul 27 20:50:02 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Recruiting 101
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020727194824.009c0490@mail.comcast.net>
Bill,
I gotta commend you on your efforts to raise teams for the NAQPs. It
sounds like you're having a lot of success and it should be a lot of fun.
You mention W8LNO's 'Midwest Popguns'. Joe was a long-time member of MRRC
and about the same time that he was organizing the Popguns, I was
organizing the 'Motley Crew' Sprint teams. This was the timeframe (early
80s) immediately after I returned to MI from college in AR. K5GO and I
were on 7200 KHz every Tuesday evening talking contesting and we'd attract
other contesters. We started with one Motley Crew team (the name sprung
from the wide assortment of operators we attracted), had two teams quite
often, and occasionally three if I remember correctly.
Of course, IMHO the crowning achievement of the Motley Crew and Midwest
Popgun teams was the 45 minute "New Wave" Sprint we held immediately before
a regular Sprint in 1984 to protest W6OAT's refusal to move the starting
time from 01Z to 00Z to provide a modicum of stateside propagation for us
Midwesterners. We made our point and Rusty made the change. The panic
caused across the USA as contesters double-checked their clocks was a bonus...
Of course this was before you and I knew each other :-)
We need more stuff like this to make history.
I wonder what Joe Warden is up to now?
Unfortunately, we have an MRRC meeting at W8AV's the day of the CW
NAQP. This date was not chosen carelessly, but was the result of 'AV
family schedules. Our plan is to have K8MAD on the air multi-op from 'AV
for NAQP CW QSOs. Also, the following weekend is the OH QSO Party so a
number of the mobiles plan to drive their mobile contest setups to the
meeting so there are some other potential sources for QSOs.
GL OM.
73,
Dave
>From k8cc at comcast.net Sat Jul 27 21:01:31 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Use For The Cabrillo Claimed Score Field
In-Reply-To: <008401c235ae$52b6f9a0$3201a8c0@mikehome>
References: <cd.1ae6f65f.2a744d46@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020727195526.009c3550@mail.comcast.net>
Speaking for the ARRL 160/10 logchecking team, we use the Cabrillo Claimed
Score field an a sanity check on the score our logchecking process
generates. Anything more than about a 25% difference generates a warning
for manual review. IMHO, anything which helps us guarantee the integrity
of the log is a good thing.
Certainly this field is not required since we completely recalculate the
scoring anyways. While its simple for the logging software to include,
Cabrillo converters such as KA5WSS and WT4I generally are not equipped with
scoring algorithms and so are unable to calculate the score.
This past contest we discovered that even some logging programs don't know
how to calculate ARRL 10M scores correctly. Unfortunately we could not
tell which ones - the programs left no telltale marks in the Cabrillo file.
K8CC
At 04:43 PM 7/27/02 -0400, Michael Gilmer wrote:
>From the Cabrillo spec, http://www.kkn.net/~trey/cabrillo/spec.html
>
>
>CLAIMED-SCORE: n
>The claimed-score of the log submission, in integer form such as 1217315 or
>19113 or 12.
>
>
>It's redundant from a final score point of view, but if the robot can start
>posting "claimed scores" then this field has renewed relevance.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <K4BEV@aol.com>
>To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 3:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
>
>
> > In a message dated 7/27/02 11:12:56 Central Daylight Time, K4BEV@aol.com
> > writes:
> >
> >
> > > the Cabrillo format doesn't include that information
> >
> > I looked at a submitted log and didn't see the Claimed Score.
> > It IS there though.
> > SRI,
> > Don - K4BEV
> >
>
>
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>From lz4ax at psu.edu Sat Jul 27 21:40:12 2002
From: lz4ax@psu.edu (Alexander Avramov)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207271341.g6RDfphF003289@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <002e01c235cf$561dc850$0100a8c0@computer>
N2MG wrote :
>
> I don't think this is what makes a "membership" organization tick. ARRL
> sponsors the contests precisely TO attract membership. They don't have
> members so they can sponsor contests. In fact, there are plenty at HQ
who
> would rather not have contests at all.
>
> > I doubt if this is accomplished by penalizing non-ARRL entries.
>
> Since we're talking about lemonade, I'd say they don't penalize non-member
> entries, but rather, they reward member entries.
>
> I'm sure it's no small thorn in the ARRL's side that non-members expect to
> be treated with the same respect that members are. Can't really fault the
> League for that. And I really don't fault non-USA folks for not joining
the
> ARRL but I do fault them for expecting equal treatment (maybe that's the
> American in me talking?). Sure, ARRL "needs" as many DX ops as possible
to
> operate in their contests in order to make the contests attractive enough
> that folks will have fun - fun which will inspire some of these same folks
> to become members. If they ever conclude that fun-contests does not
equate
> to new-members, bye-bye (ARRL sponsorship of) contests.
>
> 73 Mike N2MG
Mike,
are you serious or ... just kidding ?
Alex LZ4AX/AA3AX
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Jul 27 22:23:16 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207271341.g6RDfrhF003292@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <002a01c235d5$8e9c2860$03010a0a@office1>
Gary,
Sorry to be so long to reply, out some LookOut, er, Outlook Express problems
all day.
I think the key disagreement we have is over the current level of available
technology and human interaction with it. I am simply not convinced that
the hardware & software technology exists today to permit the level of
automation that would easily permit a contest comittee to process thousands
of logs with minimal fuss. Let me stress that I specifically intend "exists
today." Next year, two or three years from now, things may change.
Now I have tremendous respect for the work that Trey has done with Cabrillo
and the various logging robots. These improvements have certainly made
sending in the log electronically both simple and a pleasure -- when
everything works right. But sometimes things don't... it cost me the WPA
section in the ARRL DX SSB contest a couple of years ago when the log I sent
in as Low Power got received at ARRL as High Power (changing me from 1st
Place LP to 2nd Place HP -- and that's very frustrating when you consider my
antennas are just a couple of verticals!). Even with the long lead times,
by the time I became aware of the error it was too late to fix it (and
that's not N1ND's fault, I should have checked it sooner). If we shorten
the entry deadline from 30/31 to 15 days, we decrease the amount of time
that errors like that can be caught and corrected.
Yes, there will be procrastinators (of which I'm a master) who will always
put off sending in the log until the last day or two. That won't change be
it 30 days, 15 days, or 5 days.
I also think you may be underestimating the problems of Internet access in
much of the world. I've heard privately from quite a few that this is
currently a major problem for some of the contest teams who activate some of
the rarer spots. Again, this is not going to be true a few years from now
(I hope) but it will be for the short term.
I know a few people are suggesting that some of the things done at WRTC
(such as real-time monitoring, if I remember correctly) be implemented in
the near future. This can be a major problem for quite a few contesters.
I'm still on a dial-up connection (can't get DSL yet and I'm not letting
that !@#%^&**$! cable company back in the house), and I'm sure I'm not the
only one in that boat. I'd sure hate to be told that in order to be
elibible for something more than a check-log recognition, I'd have to have a
24x7 high speed Internet connection in the shack. Right now, I'd rather
spend that money on antennas or radios than on a fractional T-1, ISDN, or
some form of frame access (all that's available to me now, and it's all
expensive). Again, the technology may be available, but at a cost that
many (perhaps most) can't afford.
Are people resistant to change? Yup. Remember the outcry over Cabrillo
when it was announced? Now it's a no-brainer.
One thing I haven't seen in this discussion yet are comments from someone
who is on one of the contest committees (or if they have, they haven't
overtly admitted to it! <g>). I'd still be interested in seeing comments
from someone involved in tabulating the results as to whether or not a 15
day turn-around between logs received and results published is practical.
I've been involved in a few local contests with tabulating logs (granted by
hand), and I know how much a pain doing "only" a couple of hundred are. I
can only imagine how much is involved with thousands -- but I'd rather hear
from someone who is currently doing it, especially with the tools now
available.
Now, one thing we will agree on is that the ultimate goal will be to shorten
the turn-around time from contest to results to the neighborhood of 4 to 6
weeks. I just don't see this as happening in the immediate future.
73, ron wn3vaw
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(2) "I'm Stuck On a Band-Aid & A Band-Aid's Stuck on Me"
(3) "You Deserve A Break Today..."
----- Original Message -----
Message: 6
From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
Ron, we agree on one point. We disagree with each other -HI. Although I
like the "for now" part :-) To your points:
1. Outcry: People hate change. We live with it and move on. This is no
different.
2. Yup, I'm that impatient. The technology exists. We should set a good
goal.
3. Uniques: Yup. There will always be question marks. Do the best we can.
4. Rest of world: I don't think it's the problem you and a few others
have voiced. I know of several stations that are rare that are club
stations. Internet access is not a problem. We're not always talking about
individual stations in some primitive, isolated area. Those are more likely
DXpeditions and my cruise ship analogy applies.
5. Encouraging others: I think "immediate" results-reporting provides
substantial encouragement. It's the immediate feedback or reward that
others have more lucidly described than I to which I refer. I agree with
those sentiments.
Good discussion, this. Whether it's 4 weeks, 6 or 8, in the end it's a
great improvement. I think we should do what we can to aim for 4 weeks with
a 15 day turn-in requirement, as Trey proposed. If we end up having to
delay it a bit with a contest or two for good reason, I doubt you'd hear
many complaints! (Hmm, well not from me anyway.)
Bedtime. 73 all.
Gary W2CS
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>From k5zd at charter.net Sun Jul 28 07:01:51 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207271153320.8970-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEFPDLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Good point. The best approach is probably to go for fast turn around of
results/writeup on the web site (for the participants who are anxious to
learn who won) and do a general interest writeup in QST hyping the contest
just before the running of the next one.
R
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Bill Fisher, W4AN
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 15:59 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
>
>
> I believe the most important aspect of getting the results out just before
> the next running of the event is that it serves to motivate people to
> operate again more effectively. IMO, the League would help their contests
> by delaying their printed results.
>
> When am I thinking about CW SS? Not in April.
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
>
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Sun Jul 28 03:36:24 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Log Checking
References: <200207270601_MC3-1-848-E994@compuserve.com>
Message-ID: <00a201c23601$18cdc180$772745cf@default>
Dave G4BUO brongs up an excellent point. He fears that everything will be
left to the computer software and nothing to a person reviewing the logs.
Again I can only speak for the CQ 160 Contests but the real objective of the
canrillo format was to have one standard format so all logs big and small
will be judged the same.
With the present situation this is nearly impossible as there is paper logs
and electronic logs is non cabrillo format. I do not have the resources or
time to key in the paper logs and even convert
the old format (CT, TR, and NA mainly). Owners of these programs owe it to
the contest community to get a later version that produces a cabrillo log or
use one of the converters and please get the summary info right!
As for log checking, the tools give me a list of dupes, bad calls, and
uniques for each contestant and the uniques goes even further to highlight
those that from the data base might be busts rather than uniques. I look at
the logs and try to reconcile the bads calls and possible busts. I assign
penalties not the programs. The biggest boon to me is the NIL (not in log
found). I also
check the Dx logs for correct state and this is an area where Dx stations
lose many points. I also get a report that warns me if the final score
before afjustments is more than 10% from the claimed score. I also look at
unique percentage. Any station with more than 3% uniques are reported and
those with more than 7% uniques are subject to penalty and disqualification.
This may be unique to the 160 meter band but even the best equiped stations
seldom have more than 3% uniques. The term unique was coined bty the
Directors of the CQ 160 Contests and this has been a standard since I
started helping Don in 1986.
The new software along with the cabrillo format is moving us to the point to
where the accuracy of the scores has improved dramatically. However
reporting the final scores only has a marginal improvement in our ability to
report the scores quicker. One or two months is the maximum possible.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From brianmiller at xtra.co.nz Sun Jul 28 22:30:07 2002
From: brianmiller@xtra.co.nz (Brian Miller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207271341.g6RDfrhF003292@contesting.com>
<002a01c235d5$8e9c2860$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <011001c23619$73b4b460$e24d36d2@default>
Hi all
I have been working with the Oceania DX Contest Committee on the 2001 results.
>From K7LXC at aol.com Sun Jul 28 09:33:58 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Porposal for new contest sponsors
Message-ID: <182.bbba91c.2a753eb6@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/27/02 6:11:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
w7ti@dslextreme.com writes:
> Having a contest sponsored by an organization ensures continuity
> over time, at least while the organization endures. To "take"
> the contest away from the organization and place it in the hands
> of volunteers who come and go guarantees the contest will
> fragment and disappear in a short while.
Methinks that one's chances of wresting away any existing contest from
its sponsor would be legally impossible. The ARRL and CQ OWN their events so
this is an idea with no future.
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Sun Jul 28 10:27:29 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
In-Reply-To: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEFPDLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJCEKEEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
I think the reminder article is fine as a reminder and as an enticement to
non-contesters to try their hand.
Personal contact might be more effective.
What's the percentage these days of electronic log submissions these days?
Pretty high, I would imagine. 70%? 80%? 90%?
Is there a way these days to get the e-mail addresses from the contest's
previous year's electronic log submissions and send an e-mail to them about
a week or two ahead of time to
(1) thank them for their participation in last year's contest (maybe
even
remind them of their score and placing) and
(2) to invite them to participate in this year's contest (provide dates,
times, exchanges, links, etc.)?
For the casual or newbie contester who happened to show up in a contest, it
might make the difference between being there or being a no-show. Isn't a
habit formed after doing something as few as two or three times?
73,
dale, kg5u
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sun Jul 28 16:03:18 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
In-Reply-To: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJCEKEEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Message-ID: <000201c23647$e8c52f90$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
A new class of spam! This may actually be interesting though... But if
you really want to try to drag in the casual guys don't just send
reminders to log submitters. Go collect all the calls worked in a
contest from the logs (maybe make that all calls worked more than
once??) and look up email addresses from qrz, buckmaster, arrl
databases, etc and try to get the guys that didn't get interested enough
last year to send in a log back on the air.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Dale L Martin
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 14:27
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
>
> I think the reminder article is fine as a reminder and as an
enticement to
> non-contesters to try their hand.
>
> Personal contact might be more effective.
>
> What's the percentage these days of electronic log submissions these
days?
> Pretty high, I would imagine. 70%? 80%? 90%?
>
> Is there a way these days to get the e-mail addresses from the
contest's
> previous year's electronic log submissions and send an e-mail to them
> about
> a week or two ahead of time to
> (1) thank them for their participation in last year's contest
(maybe
> even
> remind them of their score and placing) and
> (2) to invite them to participate in this year's contest
(provide
> dates,
> times, exchanges, links, etc.)?
>
> For the casual or newbie contester who happened to show up in a
contest,
> it
> might make the difference between being there or being a no-show.
Isn't a
> habit formed after doing something as few as two or three times?
>
> 73,
> dale, kg5u
>
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>From ve4xt at mb.sympatico.ca Sun Jul 28 11:24:01 2002
From: ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
References: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJCEKEEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Message-ID: <000201c2364a$fe9ee060$0100a8c0@joe>
Heck of an idea!
Perhaps the robot engineers could add a subroutine that compiles a mailing
list from incoming e-mail submissions that could then be used (in late Oct.
for SS, for example) to shotgun mail the previous year's participants.
Nothing gets me thinking CQP more than the individual mailings from AD6E,
and we all know how successful CQP is.
Oh, and Jim, how long till FQP?
In all seriousness, though, this represents the kind of marketing savvy that
contesting needs.
Well done, Dale.
Kelly
ve4xt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 9:27 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
> I think the reminder article is fine as a reminder and as an enticement to
> non-contesters to try their hand.
>
> Personal contact might be more effective.
>
> What's the percentage these days of electronic log submissions these days?
> Pretty high, I would imagine. 70%? 80%? 90%?
>
> Is there a way these days to get the e-mail addresses from the contest's
> previous year's electronic log submissions and send an e-mail to them
about
> a week or two ahead of time to
> (1) thank them for their participation in last year's contest (maybe even
> remind them of their score and placing) and
> (2) to invite them to participate in this year's contest (provide dates,
> times, exchanges, links, etc.)?
>
> For the casual or newbie contester who happened to show up in a contest,
it
> might make the difference between being there or being a no-show. Isn't a
> habit formed after doing something as few as two or three times?
>
> 73,
> dale, kg5u
>
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>From g3xtt at lineone.net Sun Jul 28 19:12:18 2002
From: g3xtt@lineone.net (Donald Field)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Contest logs
Message-ID: <01d601c2365a$13eab2a0$52dc403e@field>
Another lively contest - I counted (from my own observations and the
Cluster) at least 189 IOTA groups active, so I suspect the actual number was
over 200. Conditions not too good, but the big multis were over 3,000 QSOs
at the end.
Logs have started to arrive, and I am already seeing a potential problem. I
have had several Cabrillo logs generated by CT, which were empty (no QSOs).
All that is in the file is a note saying CT doesn't support Cabrillo for the
IOTA Contest. I am surprised that people send logs without checking what
they contain but please, if you used CT, ensure you send a file with all the
required data (I believe the .ALL file should be OK).
73 Don G3XTT
IOTA Contest Manager
>From jfunk at adams.net Sun Jul 28 13:36:22 2002
From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] pre-contest e-mails
Message-ID: <004901c23666$88177d00$111b8ad8@adams.net>
K1TTT wrote:
""... But if
you really want to try to drag in the casual guys don't just send
reminders to log submitters. Go collect all the calls worked in a
contest from the logs (maybe make that all calls worked more than
once??) and look up email addresses from qrz, buckmaster, arrl
databases, etc and try to get the guys that didn't get interested enough
last year to send in a log back on the air.""
I actually did this the last two years for the Illinois QSO Party (coming up
October 20...mark your calendars....) and received a number of "Golly,
nobody ever invited me to a contest before" messages in return. The
sponsoring club, RAMS, has been good enough to send the logs to me after
they're done with them so I can do some analysis. If interested, check
their website: http://my.core.com/~jematz/rams.html
73, Jim N9JF
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Sun Jul 28 17:10:07 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #295 - 1 msg
References: <200207281603.g6SG3ohF011634@contesting.com>
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:-)
K4OJ
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> 1. Re: WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH? (Kelly Taylor)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Kelly Taylor" <ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca>
> To: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
> Heck of an idea!
>
> Perhaps the robot engineers could add a subroutine that compiles a mailing
> list from incoming e-mail submissions that could then be used (in late Oct.
> for SS, for example) to shotgun mail the previous year's participants.
>
> Nothing gets me thinking CQP more than the individual mailings from AD6E,
> and we all know how successful CQP is.
>
> Oh, and Jim, how long till FQP?
>
> In all seriousness, though, this represents the kind of marketing savvy that
> contesting needs.
>
> Well done, Dale.
>
> Kelly
> ve4xt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 9:27 AM
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
> >
> > I think the reminder article is fine as a reminder and as an enticement to
> > non-contesters to try their hand.
> >
> > Personal contact might be more effective.
> >
> > What's the percentage these days of electronic log submissions these days?
> > Pretty high, I would imagine. 70%? 80%? 90%?
> >
> > Is there a way these days to get the e-mail addresses from the contest's
> > previous year's electronic log submissions and send an e-mail to them
> about
> > a week or two ahead of time to
> > (1) thank them for their participation in last year's contest (maybe even
> > remind them of their score and placing) and
> > (2) to invite them to participate in this year's contest (provide dates,
> > times, exchanges, links, etc.)?
> >
> > For the casual or newbie contester who happened to show up in a contest,
> it
> > might make the difference between being there or being a no-show. Isn't a
> > habit formed after doing something as few as two or three times?
> >
> > 73,
> > dale, kg5u
> >
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>From W1HIJCW at aol.com Sun Jul 28 18:02:32 2002
From: W1HIJCW@aol.com (W1HIJCW@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A Real Breath of Fresh Air
Message-ID: <c3.265b6453.2a75b5e8@aol.com>
Friends, Competitors, Colleagues:
A couple of recent posts on the line-score thread mentioned the proposals
produced by a working group of our contest co-participants. One in particular
caught my attention by implying that a 21 page document was too long for the
"attention-span challenged". That prompted me to go get and read the document.
AND BOY AM I GLAD I DID!
As a community, we owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to these people who are
clearly knowledgable and competent writers.
I urge any and all of you who are even remotely interested in contesting, its
future, and its visibility to go and get that document, read it, digest it
and think about it. And most of all to use it as blue print for constructing
and carrying out the publicizing of contesting to the larger ham radio
community.
The location of the PDF file is:
http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
Thanks to all the authors, it's a great job!
73 de Bill, W1HIJ/6
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>From wd3q at erols.com Mon Jul 29 02:27:44 2002
From: wd3q@erols.com (Eric Rosenberg)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020729010656.00a0f310@pop3.norton.antivirus>
My travel schedule has picked up considerably, and it looks like I'll
be off to places far and wide for the next 12 months or so. I'm
thinking that it might be fun to once again take an HF radio with me
once again -- I did this in the mid-1990's with a long-gone FT-890.
If I decide to buy a new radio for the road (I'm not there yet!), my
choices will likely be limited to the following four radios, two with
and two without VHF capabilities. All four radios have gotten good
reviews in QST, so it may be a matter of availability and price...the
TS-50 and K2 being at opposite sides of the range:
FT-100D and IC-706 MKIIG, both of which have VHF and UHF (no need to
take a 2m HT with me, too).
Elecraft K2 and Kenwood TS-50. Note I've never operated WRP, so the
thought of a using K2 is a bit intimidating.
Comments and thoughts are appreciated. Send them directly and I'll
summarize for those interested.
Thanks in advance and 73,
Eric W3DQ
Washington, DC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 29 10:00:48 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Russian RTTY - Claimed Scores 29Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207291600.g6TG0mc32277@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Russian RTTY - Claimed Scores 29Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cdma@simcom.ru
Mail logs to:
Russian RTTY Contest Manager
Yuri Katyutin, UA4LCQ
PO Box 1200
Ulyanovsk 432035
Russia
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOAB HP
VK4UC 294 2895 112 17 324,240
AA5AU 288 2190 77 18 168,630
WX4TM 193 1500 72 108,000
K4WW 150 1205 61 6 73,505 KCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOAB LP
PA5AT 289 1835 27 17 267,910
VE9DX 183 1445 86 12 124,270
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOSB/20 LP
F6FJE 190 1155 66 36 76,230
SV1XV 49 295 36 4 10,620
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOSB/20 QRP
WA6BOB 35 245 10 2 2,450
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 29 10:01:56 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IOTA Contest - Claimed Scores 29Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207291601.g6TG1uF32293@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IOTA Contest - Claimed Scores 29Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: hf.contests@rsgb.org.uk
Mail logs to:
RSGB IOTA Contest
PO Box 9
Potters Bar, Herts EN6 3RH
England
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
PI4HQ 1242 230 1151 276 24 7,464,006
OZ0RM(@OZ1ING) 1268 149 671 132 24 3,232,905 WWYC
K3WW 266 92 411 99 17 1,043,433 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)12CW HP
AA3B 341 116 0 0 7 346,956 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)12SSB HP
FM5GU 0 0 1210 129 10 845,982 The Pordenone Gangst
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)24Mixed LP
WN6K 59 37 65 46 16 130,476 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12CW HP
G4BUO 717 200 0 0 12 984,600
VE3KZ 537 111 0 0 12 415,251
F5IN 220 77 0 0 6 127,512 U.F.T.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12CW LP
T93Y 440 148 0 0 602,064 Sarajevo Contest Gro
F6IRF 308 137 0 0 12 448,812
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12Mixed HP
N2ED 363 64 100 64 8 472,059 FRC
VO1TA(VO1WET) 10 8 545 83 10 352,443
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12Mixed LP
G0MTN 288 66 382 133 12 942,066 WWYC
PA5AT 33 14 126 60 6 113,442
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12SSB HP
EA5DFV 0 0 528 95 10 381,900
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12SSB LP
W1DAD 0 0 220 102 12 219,096 YCCC
VE3BUC 0 0 63 40 2 29,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24CW HP
HB9CZF 507 213 0 0 18 1,065,213
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24CW LP
9A7P(9A6XX) 1011 244 0 0 24 1,840,980 WWYC
HB9ARF 339 140 0 0 490,140
W4SAA/P 748 86 0 0 21 340,560 FCG
KP4AH(WP3C) 512 63 0 0 13 169,344
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24Mixed HP
M6T(G4PIQ) 1125 168 1099 230 24 4,787,940
K9NW(@K9UWA) 548 146 534 135 24 2,473,362 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24SSB HP
VK2CZ 0 0 262 72 154,224
Operators:
K3WW AA3ZE,K3WW
OZ0RM OH3RM,OZ1AA,OZ1ING
PI4HQ HA1AG,ON4IA,ON5UM,ON6CC,ON6NL,PA7BT
>From tavan at tibco.com Mon Jul 29 10:31:28 2002
From: tavan@tibco.com (Rick Tavan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020729010656.00a0f310@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <3D456DE0.8000407@tibco.com>
Hello, Eric. The K2/100 is a full-power, high performance, contest-grade
radio. Its receiver is better than the "big rigs" including my own
FT-1000MP. The QSK is outstanding as is the transmitted voice quality.
You can turn the power down to QRP levels wth a front-panel control and
the 100w amp is bypassed completely so the rig runs fine off batteries
at 0-10w. It weighs 5 pounds, fits into a corner of your suitcase and
runs fine off a 20A switching PS. Customer support via an Internet
reflector, Website, support staff and the principals themselves is so
far beyond anything available from any other vendor that it is really in
a class by itself. It is a kit in the finest Heathkit tradition but the
resulting product quality is far superior compared to current
competition. For those who lack the skills, interest or time to build,
there are professional builders available to help out. In the field, the
K2 set records on every band when Team Vertical took it to 6Y for the CQ
WW CW 2001, a bunch of single-band QRP entries in the same room. Then
the 100w version came out and three of them made half the total Q's in a
record-setting multi-multi from the same location in the 2002 CQ WPX CW
driving various KW amps. It is rapidly becoming the rig of choice for
expeditions and is a pleasure to operate at home. There is really no
comparison. Get it.
I have no financial interest in Elecraft but I do know the principals
and admire them greatly. They have reinvented ham radio equipment design
and provisioning.
Have fun on your travels!
73,
/Rick N6XI
Eric Rosenberg wrote:
> My travel schedule has picked up considerably, and it looks like I'll
> be off to places far and wide for the next 12 months or so. I'm
> thinking that it might be fun to once again take an HF radio with me
> once again -- I did this in the mid-1990's with a long-gone FT-890.
>
> If I decide to buy a new radio for the road (I'm not there yet!), my
> choices will likely be limited to the following four radios, two with
> and two without VHF capabilities. All four radios have gotten good
> reviews in QST, so it may be a matter of availability and price...the
> TS-50 and K2 being at opposite sides of the range:
>
> FT-100D and IC-706 MKIIG, both of which have VHF and UHF (no need to
> take a 2m HT with me, too).
>
> Elecraft K2 and Kenwood TS-50. Note I've never operated WRP, so the
> thought of a using K2 is a bit intimidating.
>
> Comments and thoughts are appreciated. Send them directly and I'll
> summarize for those interested.
>
> Thanks in advance and 73,
>
> Eric W3DQ
> Washington, DC
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
--
Richard M. Tavan
TIBCO Software Inc.
3307 Hillview Drive
Palo Alto, CA 94304-1213
tavan@tibco.com
n6xi@arrl.net
650-846-5214 Office
408-896-0476 Cell
>From wx3m at comcast.net Mon Jul 29 19:15:24 2002
From: wx3m@comcast.net (wx3m@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] in depth score (and log?) analysis using a spreadsheet
References: <000701c234ba$785fc960$ab755142@fpfzqlga>
Message-ID: <00d601c23723$86f9dc20$6501a8c0@donchisholm>
I think the idea of web-accessible line scores is an excellent idea.
On the ARRL scores page(s), the ability to sort the scores that you view is
really great. However, I dislike the HTML/Java interface. It is capable and
user-friendly, I just don't like it, and really for only three (trivial)
reasons:
1. It will only display 25 entries at a time.
2. It involves a lot of data being transmitted and received over your
internet connection.
3. You can only view one "page" at a time, unless you open multiple browser
windows.
I have a cable modem (and a pretty fast one, at that), and many others do,
so maybe #2 is a weak reason. However, somebody with a dial-up (or other)
connection might be concerned about the amount of time it takes to transfer
data back and forth repeatedly.
All that aside, there is another way to sort and view the data, using a
spreadsheet. The forms that are output by the web-page are essentially a
spreadsheet, just formatted into HTML and displayed in your browser. The raw
data that this "utility" uses to generate the sorted displays is available
for download. You can then import the data from this file into a spreadsheet
(Excel). Once in Excel, you can essentially do the same thing that the
web-page allows you to do. However, because the data and the program
manipulating the data are resident on your machine instead of communicating
everything over the 'net, you can work faster. In addition, you can view
all the entries at once, instead of 25 at a time, and create multiple
sheets, each sorted with different criteria, for faster, easier, and more
comprehensive analysis.
Here is how I do it:
1. At the bottom of the DEFAULT scores display list, under "download current
selection (x-records):" right click on the link "tab delimited" and save the
file to your hard drive. The default filename is download.txt. NOTE: When
you view the contest results under their default criteria on the web page,
it is using the entire database, sorted by score only. You will get the same
download options if you enter criteria in the "SELECT ENTRIES TO LIST" or
"CHOOSE SORT ORDER" boxes, but if you have chosen something other than "ALL"
you may not get the entire database.
2. Open Microsoft Excel. You may have or use a different spreadsheet
program, but this is the only one I use and, therefore, the only one I know
HOW to use.
3. Choose FILE --> OPEN --> choose "ALL FILES" from the file types box, then
choose the directory and filename you downloaded from the ARRL web site.
(Remember, the default was download.txt.) Click "OPEN".
4. The next screen (Text Import Wizard 1 of 3) asks how you would like the
data/text formatted when it gets to the spreadsheet. Choose "delimited" and
"start import at ROW 2". Click "next". (I do this because ROW 1 is the
column headers. I really don't need to see them and it sometimes makes the
column widths weird. In addition, they are useless when sorting the data.)
5. The next screen (Text Import Wizard 2 of 3) allows you to choose the
delimiters in the file and to preview what it will look like. Under
"delimiters" check "tabs" and click "next". NOTE: This is because we
downloaded a "tab delimited" file. If we downloaded a "comma delimited"
file, we would choose that option at this time.
6. The next screen (Text Import Wizard 3 of 3) asks you to format the cells
(based on column) to accept the particular type of data in that column. Just
click "finish" and it will choose "general" for all of them. Numbers will
automatically be converted to numeric values and treated as numbers, calls
as text, dates as dates, etc.
You should now have a recognizable display of callsigns and scores. Save
this file as a Microsoft Excel Workbook (*.xls) using whatever name you
want.
To sort the results:
1. "Select" the entire sheet. This is done by clicking the blank box above
ROW 1 and to the left of COLUMN 1. The entire sheet should turn purple.
2. Under menu item "DATA", choose sort. Choose which columns you wish to
sort by, and in what order, then sort. I use descending, that way the
highest values are at the top instead of the bottom, and resemble the way
scores have been traditionally published in QST.
Voila! You can now sort and view the scores a lot faster than through the
web-based interface. In addition, you can create several sheets in a
workbook, each one being sorted by a different criteria. You can compare and
analyze very thoroughly, very easily.
To create multiple sheets in a workbook, each sorted by different criteria:
1. choose EDIT --> MOVE OR COPY SHEET...
2. check the box for "create copy"
3. choose which sheet you would like it to appear before (not very
important)
4. click OK
You now have an exact replica of the original data. You can choose to sort
this data by different criteria, so you can quickly switch between the two
for comparison. If you right-click on the tab (at the bottom of the sheet)
for the name of the sheet, you can rename each sheet based on its sort
order.
After the 2002 Michigan QSO party, I did this with my log for some analysis.
I created 5 sheets, sorted thus:
1. UTC
2. CALL
3. QTH
4. BAND then MODE
5. MODE then QTH
I was able to (at a glance) figure out how many times we worked particular
stations, sections, etc. In addition, I could check for mistakes (see
below).
I hope that somebody might be able to use this information to analyze the
ARRL line scores to learn about their own performance and improve it for
future contesting.
73
Don
WX3M
P. S. This can also be done on a Cabrillo (et al) log . . .
You can import it the same way, and sort by time, call, exchange, etc, to
analyze who you worked, where, when, how often, and so forth.
I suppose this raises an ethical issue, though. Those who subscribe to the
opinion that "when the contest is over, you cannot edit the log" would not
approve of this. However, I do not entirely subscribe to this school of
thought. If there is a 30 (15?) day period to turn in you log, then it seems
to me that the time is given to "check for mistakes" and clean it up.
The level of analysis described above is very useful for checking for
innocent keyboard boo-boos or other errors. For instance, after the 2002
Michigan QSO party, I had 20 separate files - one from each county W8UE and
I worked. I merged them all into one spreadsheet for comparison. I could
sort by callsign and make sure we got all of the QTHs correct. If we worked
AD1C nineteen times (which we did), but one of the times we logged his QTH
as MS instead of MA, it would be easy to spot and fix. This could be caused
by keyboard error or LID ears, but I think it would be OK to fix the
mistake. After all, my reference is my own log, created during the contest.
If an operator looks up a callsign on www.qrz.com to confirm a QTH, grid, or
other vital QSO information during analysis after the contest (or even
during the contest), s/he is using a forum outside of the contest and this
is, in my eyes, way beyond the spirit of honest competition.
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 29 12:59:12 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <3D456DE0.8000407@tibco.com>
Message-ID: <20020729185912.1360.qmail@web10502.mail.yahoo.com>
I have an IC706MKIIG and it works pretty good for such a small
package.
I use mine for mostly mobile contesting and I would suggest if you are
going to do any CW contesting that you get the CW filter. It's probably
not as good as the top of the line contest radios but I think it's the
best of all the small radios ( TS-50 etc...) that are out there....
73's, Jeff
--- Rick Tavan <tavan@tibco.com> wrote:
> Hello, Eric. The K2/100 is a full-power, high performance,
> contest-grade
> radio. Its receiver is better than the "big rigs" including my own
> FT-1000MP. The QSK is outstanding as is the transmitted voice
> quality.
> You can turn the power down to QRP levels wth a front-panel control
> and
> the 100w amp is bypassed completely so the rig runs fine off
> batteries
> at 0-10w. It weighs 5 pounds, fits into a corner of your suitcase and
>
> runs fine off a 20A switching PS. Customer support via an Internet
> reflector, Website, support staff and the principals themselves is so
>
> far beyond anything available from any other vendor that it is really
> in
> a class by itself. It is a kit in the finest Heathkit tradition but
> the
> resulting product quality is far superior compared to current
> competition. For those who lack the skills, interest or time to
> build,
> there are professional builders available to help out. In the field,
> the
> K2 set records on every band when Team Vertical took it to 6Y for the
> CQ
> WW CW 2001, a bunch of single-band QRP entries in the same room. Then
>
> the 100w version came out and three of them made half the total Q's
> in a
> record-setting multi-multi from the same location in the 2002 CQ WPX
> CW
> driving various KW amps. It is rapidly becoming the rig of choice for
>
> expeditions and is a pleasure to operate at home. There is really no
> comparison. Get it.
>
> I have no financial interest in Elecraft but I do know the principals
>
> and admire them greatly. They have reinvented ham radio equipment
> design
> and provisioning.
>
> Have fun on your travels!
>
> 73,
>
> /Rick N6XI
>
> Eric Rosenberg wrote:
>
> > My travel schedule has picked up considerably, and it looks like
> I'll
> > be off to places far and wide for the next 12 months or so. I'm
> > thinking that it might be fun to once again take an HF radio with
> me
> > once again -- I did this in the mid-1990's with a long-gone FT-890.
> >
> > If I decide to buy a new radio for the road (I'm not there yet!),
> my
> > choices will likely be limited to the following four radios, two
> with
> > and two without VHF capabilities. All four radios have gotten good
> > reviews in QST, so it may be a matter of availability and
> price...the
> > TS-50 and K2 being at opposite sides of the range:
> >
> > FT-100D and IC-706 MKIIG, both of which have VHF and UHF (no need
> to
> > take a 2m HT with me, too).
> >
> > Elecraft K2 and Kenwood TS-50. Note I've never operated WRP, so
> the
> > thought of a using K2 is a bit intimidating.
> >
> > Comments and thoughts are appreciated. Send them directly and I'll
>
> > summarize for those interested.
> >
> > Thanks in advance and 73,
> >
> > Eric W3DQ
> > Washington, DC
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> Richard M. Tavan
> TIBCO Software Inc.
> 3307 Hillview Drive
> Palo Alto, CA 94304-1213
>
> tavan@tibco.com
> n6xi@arrl.net
> 650-846-5214 Office
> 408-896-0476 Cell
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>From john-k1rc at juno.com Mon Jul 29 16:45:45 2002
From: john-k1rc@juno.com (john-k1rc@juno.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MSC Smart Keyer III vs AEA MM-3
Message-ID: <20020729.154545.-468455.1.john-k1rc@juno.com>
Hi all,
I have an AEA MM-3 keyer which is serving me
very well. (Has yet to give me any trouble in years
of contest and general use)
I was surfing around to see what was new out there
and came across the MSC Smart Keyer III.
Spec wise, it looks pretty comparable to the MM-3
and I was wondering what users think of the Smart
Keyer, and if it would be worth "upgrading" to
the Smart Keyer from the MM-3.
I've never seen any Smart Keyers for sale on any
of the swap pages, so can I assume the owners
are "hanging" on to the Smart Keyers as are
the MM-3 owners (like myself)?
Tell me what you think about either unit.
Thanks for your input.
73,
John K1RC
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>From pa5mw at home.nl Mon Jul 29 22:52:07 2002
From: pa5mw@home.nl (M. van Wijk)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020729010656.00a0f310@pop3.norton.antivirus>
<3D456DE0.8000407@tibco.com>
Message-ID: <01d201c23739$6b82e840$0b01a8c0@home.nl>
. It is rapidly becoming the rig of choice for
> expeditions and is a pleasure to operate at home. There is really no
> comparison. Get it.
I will second that!
'73 Mark, PA5MW
K2 #2036 (& FT1000MP + Inrad mods, filters etc.....)
>From TOMK5RC at aol.com Mon Jul 29 20:05:39 2002
From: TOMK5RC@aol.com (TOMK5RC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K5KG Recuperating
Message-ID: <15b.11ac2bec.2a772443@aol.com>
George, K5KG (J75KG) underwent brain surgery at the Mayo Clinic this morning.
The surgery was successful. He is awake and alert and complaining. He will
not be out of ICU for at least a day. When I get room information I will pass
it along. He will be in MN for the next ten days.
Well-wishers might want to drop him an email at GeorgeK5KG@aol.com.
Tom, K5RC
PS - He was not able to convince the surgeons to implant a Heil headset,
while they were boring a hole in his head.
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Jul 29 22:11:42 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
Message-ID: <3D45E7CE.1DA3B5DE@tampabay.rr.com>
FOR OVER A YEAR NOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT EVERYBODY GOES TO THE cq ww
SITE AND THERE IS NO REASON WHY I SHOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM...
This past I changed by browser for Explorer to Navigator and I still get
the following message
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.
when I try and go to
http://www.cqww.com/
...what the heck am I doing wrong - I haven't seen CQ's WW site in so
long I do not even remember what it looks like!
Can someone offer me a better answer other than "you should be able to,
everyone else can"
Thanks,
Jim, K4OJ
>From SunGodX at cox.net Mon Jul 29 20:28:12 2002
From: SunGodX@cox.net (Dennis Younker NE6I)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AEA CK-2 Manual
References: <20020729.154545.-468455.1.john-k1rc@juno.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c23770$c15f2c60$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>
Does anyone have a manual for an AEA CK-2 memory keyer? I would be happy to
cover copying costs, or perhaps someone has an electronic copy?
Thanks, Dennis, NE6I
>From k2av at contesting.com Tue Jul 30 00:29:00 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
References: <3D45E7CE.1DA3B5DE@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <002f01c23779$3f124e50$0500a8c0@swift>
That URL works fine on IE. Try removing the trailing "/", e.g.
http://www.cqww.com
Might be a Navigator-ism and is interpreting that as an FTP access to
root (/) at CQWW.
73&GL, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim White" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 9:11 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
> FOR OVER A YEAR NOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT EVERYBODY GOES TO THE cq
ww
> SITE AND THERE IS NO REASON WHY I SHOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM...
>
> This past I changed by browser for Explorer to Navigator and I still
get
> the following message
>
>
> Forbidden
>
> You don't have permission to access / on this server.
>
>
> when I try and go to
>
> http://www.cqww.com/
>
>
> ...what the heck am I doing wrong - I haven't seen CQ's WW site in
so
> long I do not even remember what it looks like!
>
> Can someone offer me a better answer other than "you should be able
to,
> everyone else can"
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim, K4OJ
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From ghoward at kent.edu Tue Jul 30 11:36:15 2002
From: ghoward@kent.edu (Geoff Howard)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PJ2 Stn Avail -- CQ/RJ RTTY
Message-ID: <3.0.32.20020730103554.0216cab0@pop.kent.edu>
Hi,
As a result of a cancellation, the PJ2 "Signal Point" contest station on
Curacao is again available for the CQ/RJ Worldwide RTTY DX Contest on
28-29 September.
Full details are available at http://asgard.kent.edu/ccc or from me by E-mail.
Thanks and 73,
- Geoff, W0CG, for the Caribbean Contesting Consortium
>From k4vud at hotmail.com Tue Jul 30 15:53:14 2002
From: k4vud@hotmail.com (Charles Harpole)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Sending in email Cabrillo logs--pffuth
Message-ID: <LAW2-F22mLng8FSZDhd000010d5@hotmail.com>
A nice ham converted my IARU contest logs to Cabrillo for me . I sent them
in by emai to IARUHF@iaru.org as per instructions.
First I got back an automated statement saying that the site was not
accepting such messages.
A little later I got another automated message from ARRL saying my log was
in there, but there are problems... the ROBOT does not accept the HQ
letters instead of numbers! This is way too much trouble, still, even with
help. I like to operate radios, not computers. A pox on the whole thing
today. 73,
Charles Harpole
k4vud@hotmail.com
_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
>From coopers at odl.co.uk Tue Jul 30 17:17:03 2002
From: coopers@odl.co.uk (Cooper Stewart)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
Message-ID: <4A590B1FC64ED511B46400B0D0E184F995460E@exchange.odl.co.uk>
I would report this to your ISP as a support call. There may be a local DNS
or reverse DNS problem with their DNS database. As you say, everyone else
will just report it as "It works for me". I've seen this before with
specific sites and we had to chase all the way to a corrupt DNS table in
Canada before we found the problem.
Stewart
GM4AFF/GM0F
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim White [mailto:k4oj@tampabay.rr.com]
Sent: 30 July 2002 02:12
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
FOR OVER A YEAR NOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT EVERYBODY GOES TO THE cq ww
SITE AND THERE IS NO REASON WHY I SHOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM...
This past I changed by browser for Explorer to Navigator and I still get
the following message
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.
when I try and go to
http://www.cqww.com/
...what the heck am I doing wrong - I haven't seen CQ's WW site in so
long I do not even remember what it looks like!
Can someone offer me a better answer other than "you should be able to,
everyone else can"
Thanks,
Jim, K4OJ
_______________________________________________
CQ-Contest mailing list
CQ-Contest@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From VE3ZT at rac.ca Tue Jul 30 12:20:11 2002
From: VE3ZT@rac.ca (Paul-VE3ZT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020729010656.00a0f310@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020730111740.00bc6e80@pop6.sympatico.ca>
Anybody using the Elecraft K2 for mobile use as well?
73, Paul
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:37:42 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301537.g6UFbgk01024@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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HQ HP
S50HQ 4493 4185 416 24 11,710,400
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HQ LP
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
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USA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 23 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
K8LX 456 0 169 6 304,538
W7GG 362 300 44 9 265,742
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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USA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
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USA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 24 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 116 19 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 21 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
K9TM 901 0 109 13 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
AI9T 102 51 15,810
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
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USA SO CW LP
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
KV8Q 685 0 147 24 290,619
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
W4BCG 75 0 40 6 9,400 TCG
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
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USA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
K6XX 1264 247 179 23 1,030,682 NCCC
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 19 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
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USA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
K1HT 399 123 139 9 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 5 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
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USA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
OH/W7YAQ 273 27 107 72,653
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 13 10,701 SECC
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USA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
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USA SO SSB LP
NQ4U 0 235 49 8 81,498 TCG
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
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USA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
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Non-USA M/S HP
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
J75KG 1654 661 192 24 1,776,768 FCG
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
DF0RU 775 663 227 22 1,116,031 Berlin-DX-Group
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
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Non-USA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
UT7QF 1934 0 316 24 2,113,408
PJ2E(N1UR) 2211 0 198 24 2,067,034 YCCC
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 20 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
DH7KU 550 0 66 16 134,640 DK0UN University Rad
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
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Non-USA SO CW LP
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
OH/W6YA 770 0 159 354,570
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
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Non-USA SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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Non-USA SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RK4FF 1594 846 325 24 2,637,700
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
OL8R(OK1FCJ) 1187 598 249 24 1,560,981
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 23 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
UY5ZZ 991 304 123 956,032
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 15 463,606 HSDXA
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 8 402,327
XE2AC 225 598 90 8 257,760
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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Non-USA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
VE4YU 360 232 61 19 270,750
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 8 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
SV1DNW 132 58 84 12 43,008
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
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Non-USA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
DF1DX 141 114 92 13 71,300 RR DX
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Non-USA SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 23 2,342,130 Other (specify when
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
RN4LP 1505 251 24 1,175,433
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
FM5GU 0 1492 99 10 609,246
S57UN(@S52ZW) 430 27 5 117,432 SCC
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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Non-USA SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
SV1DKL 0 683 183 18 416,325
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
DL4RCK 286 72 8 98,412 BCC
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
DF0RU DH2UHF,DK3WW,DL1AXL,DL7BY,DL7UBA,DL7UFP,DL7UTM
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
W7GG K7ZUM,KC7TWZ,W7GG
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:39:50 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301539.g6UFdoV01033@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
W6YX 446 156 10 69,576 NCCC
W1GZ 252 112 10 28,224
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
VA3DX 388 147 11 58,200
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
W1ZT 373 134 10 49,982 YCCC
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 10 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
9A5W(@9A1A) 301 107 10 32,207
WB4EQS 259 124 32,116
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
AI9T 251 123 10 30,873
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K7ZUM 241 118 7 28,438 WVDXC
N1NB 240 105 8 25,200
K4PX 225 111 10 24,975
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
W4BCG 222 107 9 23,754 TCG
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
K6XT 213 98 9 20,874
W6ZL(BIGWAVE) 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
KD8FS 195 97 5 18,915
LP7H(LU9HS) 227 76 10 17,252
K3FH 176 98 9 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 7 14,964
IT9BLB 186 78 10 14,508 TIKIRRIKI CONTEST CL
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
K5AM 169 78 4 13,182
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
K1XX 161 78 9 12,090
IK0HBN 150 57 10 8,550
WB0O 110 71 2 7,810
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 3 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K9SZ 48 33 1,584
K6OWL 46 34 3 1,564
XE2AC 42 27 3 1,134
F6FJE 24 23 6 552
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
PA5AT 18 11 1 198
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
W1GZ N1MGO,WN1E
W6YX K6ENT,N6DE,W6ZZZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:40:30 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301540.g6UFeUY01044@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
KB8U 227 99 17 30,888
K3DNE 167 69 10 15,732 PVRC
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
K8CC 130 72 7 12,240 MRRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE3KZ 126 66 9,570 Ontario VHF Associat
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
K0UK 2 2 27 6 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/2 QRP
HS8GLR 218 9 20 3,924
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
E20MXA 127 4 7 1,016 HSDXA
HS0XNO 97 2 9 388
HS4BPQ/9 44 3 3 264 HSDXA
HS6MYW/1 58 2 4 232 HSDXA
HS5SYH 25 2 2 100
E20JPJ 25 2 2 100 HSDXA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 LP
K8KFJ 26 19 6 494
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 QRP
N3AWS 5 4 3 20
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:42:39 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301542.g6UFgdT01056@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
In State Rover LP
N4PN 676 75 400 57 20 20,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
In State Single Op LP
KN4Y 591 0 42 0 12 49,644 FCG
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NJ8J 43 7 21 7 3 2,604 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
In State Single Op QRP
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 2 15 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
Out of State Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
Out of State Single Op LP
N4GG 78 10 64 10 9 12,284 PVRC
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
K8MR 52 4 39 4 4,644 MRRC
W4SAA 27 0 23 0 2 1,242 FCG
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
Out of State Single Op QRP
NJ4X/7 32 0 31 0 3 1,984
K8GU(@K8GU/P) 8 0 8 0 1 128 MRRC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:44:04 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IOTA Contest - Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301544.g6UFi4l01065@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IOTA Contest - Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: hf.contests@rsgb.org.uk
Mail logs to:
RSGB IOTA Contest
PO Box 9
Potters Bar, Herts EN6 3RH
England
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
PI4HQ 1242 230 1151 276 24 7,464,006
OZ0RM(@OZ1ING) 1268 149 671 132 24 3,232,905 WWYC
EA5KB/7 0 0 2425 180 2,380,860
K3WW 266 92 411 99 17 1,043,433 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
Multi-Op LP
N4C(@KO4PY) 700 105 117 55 23 839,520
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)12CW HP
AA3B 341 116 0 0 7 346,956 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)12SSB HP
FM5GU 0 0 1210 129 10 845,982 The Pordenone Gangst
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)24CW HP
G3TXF 1250 264 0 0 24 2,006,928
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)24Mixed LP
WN6K 59 37 65 46 16 130,476 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12CW HP
G4BUO 717 200 0 0 12 984,600
NY4A(N4AF) 556 131 0 0 11 526,620 PVRC
VE3KZ 537 111 0 0 12 415,251
F5IN 220 77 0 0 6 127,512 U.F.T.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12CW LP
T93Y 440 148 0 0 602,064 Sarajevo Contest Gro
F6IRF 308 137 0 0 12 448,812
OH6BG 324 72 0 0 12 172,584
VO1HP 190 32 0 0 11,656
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12Mixed HP
N2ED 363 64 100 64 8 472,059 FRC
VO1TA(VO1WET) 10 8 545 83 10 352,443
WB2YQH 108 48 117 73 9 303,831
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12Mixed LP
G0MTN 288 66 382 133 12 942,066 WWYC
RD4M(UA4LU) 183 72 136 69 12 432,306
EA5AER 195 41 193 71 12 325,248
PA5AT 33 14 126 60 6 113,442
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12SSB HP
EA5DFV 0 0 528 95 10 381,900
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12SSB LP
W1DAD 0 0 220 102 12 219,096 YCCC
VE3BUC 0 0 63 40 2 29,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24CW HP
HB9CZF 507 213 0 0 18 1,065,213
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24CW LP
9A7P(9A6XX) 1011 244 0 0 24 1,840,980 WWYC
LZ1PJ 690 180 0 0 21 977,400
S53F 790 139 0 0 24 744,345
HB9ARF 339 140 0 0 490,140
W4SAA/P 748 86 0 0 21 340,560 FCG
KP4AH(WP3C) 512 63 0 0 13 169,344
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24Mixed HP
M6T(G4PIQ) 1125 168 1099 230 24 4,787,940
K9NW(@K9UWA) 548 146 534 135 24 2,473,362 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24Mixed LP
S51NZ 149 69 202 102 645,867
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24SSB HP
GM0F(GM4AFF) 0 0 1520 231 24 2,021,481
VK2CZ 0 0 262 72 154,224
Operators:
K3WW AA3ZE,K3WW
N4C KO4PY,N4YDU
OZ0RM OH3RM,OZ1AA,OZ1ING
PI4HQ HA1AG,ON4IA,ON5UM,ON6CC,ON6NL,PA7BT
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:45:24 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Russian RTTY - Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301545.g6UFjOM01074@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Russian RTTY - Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cdma@simcom.ru
Mail logs to:
Russian RTTY Contest Manager
Yuri Katyutin, UA4LCQ
PO Box 1200
Ulyanovsk 432035
Russia
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOAB HP
VK4UC 294 2895 112 17 324,240
AA5AU 288 2190 77 18 168,630
WX4TM 193 1500 72 108,000
K4WW 150 1205 61 6 73,505 KCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOAB LP
PA5AT 289 1835 27 17 267,910
VE9DX 183 1445 86 12 124,270
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOSB/20 LP
F6FJE 190 1155 66 36 76,230
M0BEX 119 705 57 13 40,185 CDXC (UK)
SV1XV 49 295 36 4 10,620
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOSB/20 QRP
WA6BOB 35 245 10 2 2,450
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:47:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301547.g6UFln001083@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in the summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
VE5RI 527 1214 41 40 24 818,424
KA6BIM 251 440 35 33 24 373,048 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
VE7AVV 0 809 0 40 15 198,960 BCDX Club
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
K4BAI 181 22 0 0 27,632 SECC
K1GU 118 0 28 0 4 24,920 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE5SF 416 562 39 39 18 579,696
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE7UQ 62 346 17 28 153,540
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VA6RA 1 180 1 24 39,050
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VA3WN 142 50 13 10 6 26,542
W0ETT 100 2 25 1 7 21,632 Grand Mesa
VE3ANX 116 2 23 1 3 18,240
W1TO 67 12 15 5 12,680 YCCC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
N4WSM 0 29 0 13 4,550 TCG
K1VU 0 38 0 10 3,380 YCCC
W4NZ 32 3 9 2 3,300
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
VE3XAX 334 114 37 24 208,864 U-VE Contest Club
WB6BWZ 26 13 9 4 8 4,862 SECC
AA0XJ 19 5 7 3 5 2,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
VE3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 56 41 6 9 12 9,870
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
KA6BIM KA6BIM,NT6K
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From rw9up at tck.ru Tue Jul 30 17:45:46 2002
From: rw9up@tck.ru (A.Polevik)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] looking for info
Message-ID: <000d01c237e8$8e186920$0dc8c80a@sotel.kem>
I want to subscribe a QST and other hams magazines, but cannot find any info
how to do it. Please help me to fined any site or so.
Best regards
Anatoly
RW9UP
Mail to: rw9up@tck.ru
www.rw9up.ru
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>From n2mg at eham.net Tue Jul 30 12:06:30 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] looking for info
Message-ID:
<20020730110630.28547.h010.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Anatoly,
QST/ARRL:
http://www.arrl.org/join.html
CQ Magazine:
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/
(Click "subscribe link" at far upper left)
Try searching the www.eham.net links database for
other organizations (RSGB, etc.):
http://www.eham.net/links
73 Mike N2MG
RW9UP wrote:
> I want to subscribe a QST and other hams
> magazines, but cannot find any info how to do it.
> Please help me to fined any site or so.
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From steve at oakcom.com Tue Jul 30 15:56:05 2002
From: steve@oakcom.com (Steve Maki)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
In-Reply-To: <3D45E7CE.1DA3B5DE@tampabay.rr.com>
References: <3D45E7CE.1DA3B5DE@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <i9odkugfib83823s0tubns5ll8piu3f22u@4ax.com>
K4OJ wrote:
>FOR OVER A YEAR NOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT EVERYBODY GOES TO THE cq ww
>SITE AND THERE IS NO REASON WHY I SHOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM...
>
>This past I changed by browser for Explorer to Navigator and I still get
>the following message
>
>
>Forbidden
>
>You don't have permission to access / on this server.
>
>
>when I try and go to
>
>http://www.cqww.com/
>
>
>...what the heck am I doing wrong - I haven't seen CQ's WW site in so
>long I do not even remember what it looks like!
>
>Can someone offer me a better answer other than "you should be able to,
>everyone else can"
Try this as a workaround:
http://209.1.5.209
You should see a list of sites hosted by jzap.com. Click on cqww.com.
Apparently these sites do not have their own ip addresses. This is a
relatively new style of hosting, so your browser must be a late enough
version to understand how this works. If you are in fact using a recent
version, then complain to your ISP.
--
Steve K8LX
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Tue Jul 30 15:25:44 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Sending in email Cabrillo logs--pffuth
References: <200207301602.g6UG2QhF021003@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <032901c237fa$aa281360$03010a0a@office1>
Charles,
What software are you and/or your friend using? I used CT 9.7 during the
IARU and had no trouble with either the generated Cabrillo file nor sending
it to HQ, even with the Hq letters. (I had a different problem with the log
that was my screw-up, and the robot took the correction without a hitch too)
73, ron wn3vaw
Name Barry Manilow's Greatest Hit:
(1) "Like a Good Neighbor, State Farm is There"
(2) "I'm Stuck On a Band-Aid & A Band-Aid's Stuck on Me"
(3) "You Deserve A Break Today..."
From: "Charles Harpole" <k4vud@hotmail.com>
To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Sending in email Cabrillo logs--pffuth
A nice ham converted my IARU contest logs to Cabrillo for me . I sent them
in by emai to IARUHF@iaru.org as per instructions.
First I got back an automated statement saying that the site was not
accepting such messages.
A little later I got another automated message from ARRL saying my log was
in there, but there are problems... the ROBOT does not accept the HQ
letters instead of numbers! This is way too much trouble, still, even with
help. I like to operate radios, not computers. A pox on the whole thing
today. 73,
Charles Harpole
k4vud@hotmail.com
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>From MTessmer at axxesstech.com Tue Jul 30 16:29:52 2002
From: MTessmer@axxesstech.com (Mike Tessmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
Message-ID: <EC2530260094D411A5E700A0C9D1C4C90131F723@AXXESSEXCH01>
I think most of us can agree that the searchable database, etc., that the
ARRL now puts on the web is a good thing....pretty cool actually! I would
have liked to have seen the scores and stuff remain in the magazine but I'll
adjust.
What I would like to know is if there are still plans to produce a .PDF-type
article for each contest, with all the line scores and stuff just like one
would find in the magazine, that I'll be able to print and peruse at my
leisure say, on an airplane or wherever?
73, Mike K9NW
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>From david.e.burger at au.pwcglobal.com Wed Jul 31 11:29:02 2002
From: david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com (david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Logging Software
Message-ID: <OFB32B5C4C.2E90D821-ONCA256C06.00836B6E@aap.pwcinternal.com>
A neat lo-cost solution is the MS Excel contest logger - it can log ANY
contest, and anyone with basic Excel intro skills, doing sorts and
subtotals will let you calc the mults, zero score dupes and points quickly.
My version automatically does dupe checking, prefix tracking, zone
tracking, QSO rates and US state tracking and of couse QSO count tracking.
I wrote it for the CQWW and WPX, but it doesn't do cabrillo (easily) - I
heard there is a VB answer to that out there.
My dBase 3+ logger works in native cabrillo and exports the two near
standardised fixed and variable exchange formats for the international
contests. It will log any contest, including IOTA, and will export a
logical IOTA style cabrillo file. The cabrillo exports suit IARU, CQWW,
NEQP, ARRL DX, Oceania, WPX, SAC & ARRL 10 contests.
I want to get these little programs up on a website somewhere - as I sure
many hams would like to use a basic logger without committing money to one
product (like me). If someone wants a copy of the code, happy to oblige. I
cannot help with providing the main Excel or dBase 3+, dBase 4, Foxpro etc
programs though. But there is a free-ware Fbase database engine (US
Fisheries of all places and the Hotel Fidelio reservations engine) which I
understand will run my dbase 3+ code.
Keep in mind these are very basic loggers, and although I'm always tweaking
them (one version has Florida, Texas, New England and Californai QSO party
mult tracking) - they would get you started.
David VK2CZ / VK8AA (k3hz@ieee.org)
Sydney/Darwin
>From k4ab at msn.com Tue Jul 30 21:09:17 2002
From: k4ab@msn.com (Larry Crim)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ "Expanded" Results
Message-ID: <DAV72vrx0twzCRIv7Az00023117@hotmail.com>
I hate to join in the bashing....but...
After trying to decipher the CQ homepage to determine where the "expanded"
results are located, I found there are No expanded results...'cept for station
ops.
Team contesting, top scores in active zones. zone leaders/single op aren't
there.
Oh, but they're "coming soon".
But I have my CQ hard copy issue in my hand.
Is the web supposed to speed-up delivery of results?
Results say no.
I'm disappointed.
73,
Larry K4AB
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>From sm4dhf at telia.com Wed Jul 31 21:56:56 2002
From: sm4dhf@telia.com (Goran SM4DHF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Phone results in CQ magazine
Message-ID: <001001c238c4$0ab6e8e0$d2c442d5@telia.com>
Hi,
just heard from a friend in W7 who got the CQ Magazine that my contest
operation
in CQWW Phone 2001 as TI2/SM4DHF seems to be listed as a winning score for
Europe on
15 m LP!!
I have no idea how this happend... the soapbox comment that is on the CQ
Internet page
is not what was in my cabrillo file either!
Trying to sort this out with CQ at the moment.
73 Goran SM4DHF
**************************************
http://www.sm4dhf.com/search.shtml
log search collection
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>From k3zo at verizon.net Wed Jul 31 18:07:08 2002
From: k3zo@verizon.net (Fred Laun K3ZO)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20020731142403.00b881a0@mail.verizon.net>
People are usually incredulous when I tell them there are 175,000 hams in
Thailand. Why don't we hear them on the bands, I am asked.
The answer is that about 99.4% of them are VHF-only hams. The barrier to
upgrading, interestingly enough, is not CW so much as it is the fact that
the guy who writes the exams for the Thai PTD makes the written exam
top-heavy on obscure facts like what does the Z-signal ZNN stand for, etc.
So the failure rate on the written exam has been rather high.
All this may be changing as the PTD's responsibilities, under Thailand's
new Constitution, are being taken over by a new commission similar to our
FCC, and in the process the Radio Amateur Society of Thailand, along with
Thailand's 75 provincial radio clubs, are being given more responsibilities
in the license registration arena. While this is costing the ham societies
some bucks, it also may open the way to getting more of these folks on HF
where they can fatten the contest logs of all of us, particularly the
long-suffering sixes and other left-coasters.
Champ, E21EIC, along with John, HS1CHB, promoted the CQWW VHF Contest in
Thailand this year and got quite a bit of participation. Champ is rounding
up the logs and helping the contestants to submit them to CQ. He is also
planning to propose the creation of a national VHF contest in Thailand to
better familiarize all the VHF'ers with contesting.
Champ has copied me on his log submission messages to CQ, and I have taken
the QSO list of just one log, that of DOMRONGSAK PATTAKARNGOVIBOON,
HS8GLR/9, who operated the contest from Songkhla Province in Southern
Thailand near the border with Malaysia. Here is his list of QSOs in the
CQWW VHF contest. Will the left-coast logs of the future contain something
like this?
HS9KYQ HS9LVI HS9LVY HS9LCH HS9JPM HS9IPP HS9KGW
HS9KFL HS9LLH HS9LVX HS9JRV HS9KJV HS9KTD HS8IJF
HS9FQG HS9KUW E21PC HS8BRC HS9JEF HS9JVL HS9KJM
HS9CEY HS9LJY HS9IZF HS9LLY HS9JWW HS9LQM HS9BY
HS9KML HS9KWK HS8HTJ HS9IZV HS9JZH HS9EWQ HS9KLH
HS9LCS HS9LQR HS8HZP HS8FOX HS9JWH HS9ERT HS9IYJ
HS9LRW HS9KTY HS9AGW HS9KNB HS9LST HS9LRA HS9KXV
HS8HOA HS9CKL HS9DNV HS9LWK HS9ILT HS9LNN E20RD
HS9HRY HS9ITP HS9KLR HS9KDI HS9KLP HS9KQO HS9VK
HS9LMI HS9CAK HS9EG HS9KDU HS9JYA HS9LLG HS9LLQ
HS9LMH HS9LWD HS6SML HS9KKQ HS9IUR HS9HDZ HS9KRE
HS9CVC HS9KRK HS9FFC HS9CLQ HS5VSY HS9KQR HS8DWY
HS9FPW HS9HXW HS9KJH HS9CUU HS9FLY HS9KAT HS9LPB
HS9GGD HS9KDT HS9LFH HS9BVF HS9KFJ HS9FOD HS9LAY
HS9JDX HS9LDO HS9HIW HS9HQT HS9INL HS9HUE HS9HPC
HS9LDH HS9GQH HS9LAE HS9GAZ HS9IGC HS9KKS HS9LPI
HS9LWR HS9JVX HS9LXK HS1AQU HS9JQQ HS9LHZ HS9LQC
HS9JZR HS9ZE HS8FNO HS9JYW HS9LRF HS9KYB HS8KHP
HS9LTU HS9IAJ HS9IYR HS9KZY HS9IBX HS9LVV HS8LCT
HS9LVQ HS9FZ HS9KFI HS9CFK HS9KXY HS9LVW HS8KAC
HS9KNG HS9EDW HS9FXJ HS9LRV HS9LET HS9JMO HS9LTJ
HS8KQS HS9CQB HS9LXY HS9AVD HS9CXZ HS9BKB HS8KPP
HS9LKM HS9LEZ HS9IHA HS9LEN HS9LWP HS9IPO HS8KMQ
E20LPI HS9AVE HS9CLR HS9LUM HS8GQA HS9LPG HS8JWZ
HS9HTN HS9LEV HS9INZ HS9LRT HS8IKZ HS9LXR HS8KDY
HS9LNM HS9HYQ HS9KKU HS9LFL HS9EPP HS9LUG HS9LSS
HS9PW HS5ORL HS9ZU HS9KTT
HS9KYG HS8JTO HS9HK HS9KTU
HS9LVZ HS8JVH HS9APZ HS9EUZ
HS8DHH HS8KAG HS9JDX
HS9IHQ HS8KNP 9W2DD
HS9LGM HS8AIM 9W2XM
HS9LLE HS8ABS HS9JRR
HS9KOJ HS8KBS HS9ITC
HS8IBN HS8HOH HS9YE
HS8LAZ HS8KLC HS9LPV
HS8JPN HS8KZK HS9KPQ
73, Fred, K3ZO
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Jul 31 16:04:08 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20020731142403.00b881a0@mail.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020731150127.00a7d660@pop3.eskimo.com>
We can only hope so.... :>)
Still won't make up for those Y'urpean mults tho.
73
dink, n7wa
(Pacific NorthLeft Coast)
>Will the left-coast logs of the future contain something like this?
HS9KYQ HS9LVI HS9LVY HS9LCH HS9JPM HS9IPP HS9KGW
HS9KFL ...........
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CQ-Contest mailing list
CQ-Contest@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20020731142403.00b881a0@mail.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207311748100.16810-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Fred Laun K3ZO wrote:
> People are usually incredulous when I tell them there are 175,000 hams in
> Thailand. Why don't we hear them on the bands, I am asked.
>
> The answer is that about 99.4% of them are VHF-only hams. The barrier to
> upgrading, interestingly enough, is not CW so much as it is the fact that
> the guy who writes the exams for the Thai PTD makes the written exam
> top-heavy on obscure facts like what does the Z-signal ZNN stand for, etc.
> So the failure rate on the written exam has been rather high.
>
That's really too bad. You'd think they'd get real. I have never in 35
years heard anyone use a Z-signal in ham radio.
Sort of like asking me as a photographer how to shoot Autochrome or make a
Bromoil. Chances are mighty slim that either will happen!
> Champ, E21EIC, along with John, HS1CHB, promoted the CQWW VHF Contest in
> Thailand this year and got quite a bit of participation. Champ is rounding
> up the logs and helping the contestants to submit them to CQ. He is also
> planning to propose the creation of a national VHF contest in Thailand to
> better familiarize all the VHF'ers with contesting.
>
> Champ has copied me on his log submission messages to CQ, and I have taken
> the QSO list of just one log, that of DOMRONGSAK PATTAKARNGOVIBOON,
> HS8GLR/9, who operated the contest from Songkhla Province in Southern
> Thailand near the border with Malaysia. Here is his list of QSOs in the
> CQWW VHF contest. Will the left-coast logs of the future contain something
> like this?
>
[snipped huge list of HS callsigns]
I certainly hope so!!!
73, Zack W9SZ
>From w7ti at dslextreme.com Wed Jul 31 20:08:31 2002
From: w7ti@dslextreme.com (Bill Turner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207311748100.16810-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
References: <4.2.2.20020731142403.00b881a0@mail.verizon.net>
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10207311748100.16810-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <bs5hkuojsc8voqj4n7nse20ae648f22kce@4ax.com>
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:51:50 -0500 (CDT), Zack Widup wrote:
>That's really too bad. You'd think they'd get real. I have never in 35
>years heard anyone use a Z-signal in ham radio.
>
>Sort of like asking me as a photographer how to shoot Autochrome or make a
>Bromoil. Chances are mighty slim that either will happen!
_________________________________________________________
Being a third world country, there are no doubt some agendas at
work we have little knowledge of. Having LOTS of hams with HF
privileges is clearly not one of their priorities.
Bill, W7TI
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Wed Jul 31 23:40:23 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
In-Reply-To: <bs5hkuojsc8voqj4n7nse20ae648f22kce@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207312231390.22472-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Bill Turner wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:51:50 -0500 (CDT), Zack Widup wrote:
>
> >That's really too bad. You'd think they'd get real. I have never in 35
> >years heard anyone use a Z-signal in ham radio.
> >
> >Sort of like asking me as a photographer how to shoot Autochrome or make a
> >Bromoil. Chances are mighty slim that either will happen!
>
> _________________________________________________________
>
> Being a third world country, there are no doubt some agendas at
> work we have little knowledge of. Having LOTS of hams with HF
> privileges is clearly not one of their priorities.
>
> Bill, W7TI
I guess that could be true. If you really want to prevent someone from
doing something while still giving the apparency that you want them to do
it, you can come up with all sorts of methods.
It is a shame, though. There are obviously many people over there who are
interested in ham radio.
Is Sudan in a similar situation? I know of big-time contest operations
taking place from many African countries now and then, but Sudan isn't one
of them.
Zack W9SZ
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Fri Jul 26 23:56:26 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (Bob Wruble)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] "Please copy..."
References: <20020626200729.12106.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com>
<001301c21d88$8670eaa0$dafc7243@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <004101c23532$591d6210$41c03d04@bobhome>
boy the crap that goes back and forth on this reflector is enuf to give a
Woodpecker a "headache! The 2% of worthwhile info is hard to stick around
for! de w7gg
---- Original Message -----
From: "James Neiger" <n6tj@sbcglobal.net>
To: <discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] "Please copy..."
> And by natural extension, the next step is to preface our CW exchanges
with
> a polite "please copy"? Give me a break, please.
>
> Jim Neiger
> N6TJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck" <discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:07 PM
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] "Please copy..."
>
>
> > Scott Nichols sagely noted that....
> > "I think, for many people, the "please copy" acts
> > as an instinctive "bridge"...." and also noted
> > "..It also seems a little more friendly..."
> >
> > K3FT opined.. What I learned from chatting with
> > the pros in this world is that even though the
> > guiding rule is 'A-B-C' (Accuracy, Brevity,
> > Clarity) when transmitting traffic, the all
> > important, yet intangible 'human factor' must be
> > considered.
> >
> > The insertion of the 'Please Copy...' prior to
> > the start of the message (on voice circuits)
> > helps to impart a small but valuable bit of 'the
> > personal touch' in the mix.
> >
> > Another purpose is to give the recieving
> > operators mind a chance to 'lock in' and be
> > absolutely ready to copy what follows. Even
> > though you know that the other guy is ready
> > because he responsded 'K3FT send your traffic'
> > and you start transmitting.. a 'Please copy...'
> > before the 'number xxx...' and the rest of the
> > preamble simply gives him a 1/4 of a second to
> > energize the brain/body to begin actually
> > writing/typing. The slight delay allows him to
> > move from the act of transmiting 'K3FT, Send your
> > traffic', put down the mic, ready his
> > pencil/fingers, and be absolutely ready to copy
> > whatever you send next.
> >
> > Regardless of how good you are, there is ALWAYS a
> > slight delay from the time you stop transmitting
> > your readiness to receive and your full
> > readiness to copy. The 'Please copy' allows the
> > human factor of a pleasantry to occur while
> > providing that needed delay so the reciever can
> > be assured of having all in place to copy.
> >
> > That is all it really is. What I was taught is we
> > strive for 'A-B-C' but maintaining a small bit of
> > 'human pleasantry' in the mix is OK.
> >
> > 73
> > Chuck K3FT
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:11:48 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQ-M DX Contest - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207011411.g61EBmZ24375@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQ-M DX Contest - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqm@srr.ru
Mail logs to:
CQ-M Contest Committee
Krenkel Central Radio Club of Russia
PO Box 88
Moscow 123459
Russia
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
N1XS(@K1TTT) 674 148 24 218,892 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SMixed HP
4U1VIC 1071 217 530,999
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABCW HP
TM9C(F5IN) 777 155 270,320
N4BP 450 102 17 116,076 FCG
KM5G 152 69 26,013
K9NW(@K9UWA) 157 64 25,600 MRRC
K5GN(@W5KU) 67 30 2 4,680 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABCW LP
OZ0RS 313 82 55,514
M/AB2E 220 88 14 41,448
XE1NW 116 34 10 9,044
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABMixed HP
LY2FY 905 158 319,318 KTU RC
UA9FM 206 67 6 38,592 UCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABMixed LP
9A7P(9A6XX) 349 103 5 78,177 WWYC
YL2PN 284 72 45,216 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABSSB LP
PA3FGJ 156 62 20,150
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/20CW LP
I2WIJ 277 55 8 35,365 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
Operators:
4U1VIC DF5AU,DJ9AO,DL9NDV,JH4RHF
N1XS K1EBY,K1TTT,N1XS
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:12:31 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Anatolian RTTY - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207011412.g61ECVk24384@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Anatolian RTTY - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: ta9j@qsl.net
Mail logs to:
TA9J Ismail Cakmak
PO Box 34
36000 Kars
Turkey
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op HP
AL1G 132 1675 67 112,225
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op HP
N4BP 312 3760 128 12 481,280 FCG
VK4UC 205 3065 94 288,110
YL2KF 148 1680 97 7 162,960
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
F6FJE 255 2930 126 369,180
TA1BM 181 2530 9 278,300
SP8SW 202 2250 113 15 254,250 SPDX Club
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 168 2445 96 7:12 234,720 Chiltern DX Club
GU0SUP 88 1035 58 60,030
N1MGO 79 890 57 50,730
VE3BUC 64 900 42 3 37,800
VE9DX 32 420 23 2 9,660
Operators:
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:13:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Baltic Contest - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207011413.g61EDCm24393@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Baltic Contest - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: lrsf@lrsf.lt
Mail logs to:
Baltic Contest
PO Box 210
LT-3000, Kaunas
Lithuania
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All M/S HP
YL4U 176 139 5 321 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All M/S LP
ES5KJ 138 109 5 249
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO CW HP
TM9C(F5IN) 170 0 3 728 Union Française des
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO CW LP
YL1ZF 237 0 5 240 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO Mixed HP
8S5A(SM5AJV) 114 51 2,10 885 TOEC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO Mixed LP
LY3CW(LY2KZ) 131 70 5 203 Kaunas Technology Un
LY2XW 141 51 5 193
YL2PN 33 56 3 91 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO SSB HP
ES5TV 0 203 5 209
Operators:
YL4U YL2CA,YL2CV,YL2CZ,YL2LY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:16:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ANARTS RTTY - All Claimed Scores 01Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207011416.g61EGQQ24407@localhost.localdomain>
2002 ANARTS RTTY - All Claimed Scores 01Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: ctdavies@bigpond.com
Mail logs to:
Contest Manager ANARTS
PO Box 93
Toongabbie, NSW 2146
Australia
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts Ms Cont hr Score Club
All SOST HP
9A5W 1045 12869 268 6 30 20,696,752 Croatian CC
IT9BLB 948 9664 235 6 30 13,628,640
PY0FF 464 12842 164 6 5 12,636,628 Araucaria DX Group
RN4LP 686 8842 205 6 30 10,878,060
YL2KF 740 7774 220 6 28 10,263,980 Latvian CC
AA5AU 582 9502 179 6 18 10,207,148
W2YC 570 10066 168 6 40 10,027,336 FRC
NR1DX 455 8158 127 6 16 6,271,096 YCCC
K4WW 345 6074 112 5 17 3,402,840 KCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts Ms Cont hr Score Club
All SOST LP
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 551 17467 158 6 16,558,916
PA5AT 540 4987 185 6 31 5,536,270
VE6YR 355 5754 124 6 4,282,776
VE9DX 330 5052 135 6 20 4,093,320
SV1XV 347 3805 136 6 25 3,105,280
W1TO 193 3241 93 6 1,808,578 YCCC
SP6EKS 197 3371 49 6 12 1,780,988
GU0SUP 300 2197 118 6 14 1,555,876
VA3PC 188 3442 89 5 14 1,532,290
WR5O 70 975 42 5 8 205,550
WA6BOB 78 1016 36 5 3 182,980
VA3NA 61 915 35 4 2.5 128,200
K3FH 51 676 38 3 4 77,064
W8RU 29 525 17 4 1.5 35,700 MRRC
Operators:
(none)
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:17:34 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU FD, CW - All Claimed Scores 01Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207011417.g61EHYV24416@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU FD, CW - All Claimed Scores 01Jul2002
Submit logs by: (see your national society rules)
E-mail logs to: (see your national society rules)
Mail logs to:
(see your national society rules)
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Open HP
S55A/P 1296 206 881,062 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Open LP
DK0WT/P(DK2GZ) 910 168 528,192
S58U/P 928 145 24:00 463,275
DL0KD/P 633 136 24 291,720 RR DX
DF0BK/P 667 120 24 274,440
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Restricted LP
GM3POI/P 1152 159 24 631,866 Orkney ARC
DL0UP/P 925 170 24 540,770 L11
G0RGH/P 535 0 24 2,268 Harwich Amateur Radi
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Fixed HP
F5IN 724 126 323,064 U.F.T.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Fixed LP
LY1DS 258 55 3 51,590 Lithuanian DX
YL2PN 100 30 3 393 Latvian CC
S52MY 5 21 1:00 105
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Open HP
VE3XAX 354 76 19 89,224 U-VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Open LP
S51JM/P 170 67 8:42 40,401
Operators:
DF0BK/P DL4SDW,DL4SDX,DL5SEJ,DL8SCG
DL0KD/P DJ5CU,DL1EKC,DL2EBH
DL0UP/P DL1EFD,DL1EFO
G0RGH/P G0DVJ,G0SCP,G3ZQU,G4AQZ,G4EYE,G4FTP,G4WHK,M0CGE
GM3POI/P G3MXJ,GM3POI
S55A/P S53Z,S55A,S56A,S57AD,S57NWT,S57RW,S57UKE,S58O,
S59KW
S58U/P S51VA,S51VI,S53AU,S57LO,S57RR,S59AV
>From w2up at mindspring.com Mon Jul 1 11:40:19 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Seattle, WA
In-Reply-To: <001801c22098$d367aca0$6501a8c0@toney1.al.home.com>
Message-ID: <E17P2M3-0000my-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
And I'm going to be in Seattle (and Vancouver) around the end of
July, if anyone's interested in getting together...
Barry W2UP
On 30 Jun 02, at 19:47, greg and leann richard wrote:
> I am going to be in Seattle, WA starting July 3 thru the 8th.
>
> Any contestors interested in getting together for dinner?
>
>
> Greg K4NO
>
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--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From w7zr at citlink.net Mon Jul 1 11:11:24 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Top Ten Switches
Message-ID: <003001c22122$7250d560$a224d7aa@N1>
I have two Top Ten switches available on eBay. Item #1363268794.
Thanks
Dick W7ZR
Price Reduced!!
Vacation or Retire Here
It's Paradise on the Beach
www.w7zr.com
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Mon Jul 1 15:35:49 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [Towertalk] dead grass
References: <20020630.094808.-685039.0.K2QMF@juno.com>
<5.1.1.2.2.20020630103114.00b44728@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <028901c22147$4585dab0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
This is usually accompanied by a "moisture barrier" presented by the
concrete base. Often it is enough to take care to water a little more
around the tower. When the concrete's "base" meets the soils "acid"
the result is salt, which can damage some vegetation even if
neutralized. In this case, extra watering is the answer.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob, N5RP" <N5RP@pdq.net>
To: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Cc: <k1ttt@arrl.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 08:40
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [Towertalk] dead grass
>
> > > > Is there something that leaches off older towers that kills grass?
> > > > I
> > > > don't remember it happening the first 10 years or so, but now on my
> > > > older towers I have been noticing that the grass is being killed off
> > > > on
> > > > the downhill side. These are all rohn 25/45/55 type towers. Is
> > > > there
> > > > something to stop it??
> ==========================>
> Alkalinity from the older concrete leaches out into the yard.
>
> You do not notice this at first. It takes a while for the leaching to have
> an adverse affect on the surrounding plants that might need a more acid
> soil condition.
>
> Apply acidifier to the surrounding soil.
> Same thing happens down here in the Southern USA to azaleas planted too
> close to concrete foundations of houses.
>
> The list is free to be surprised at this being one of my few sincere posts
> with a content of substance.
> File away if you wish to preserve same.
> Bob Perring
> ...........................................
> Amateur Radio Station N5RP
> mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
> N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>
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>
>From kcechura at umr.edu Mon Jul 1 08:06:10 2002
From: kcechura@umr.edu (Ken Cechura)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Icom 706 CI-V
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20020701070357.00bcd750@pop3.umr.edu>
has anyone used a butel IF2 yaesu/icom interface to control an Icom IC 706
(such as memories, rig control, etc. etc.)?
It says it'll work... granted, it will only work with a single radio,
versus the W2ENY version which will work on 4 radios at once....
any comments, hints, etc. would be appreciated.... I just don't want to
pay over 100 bucks if i can avoid it for the Icom brand interface.
thanks
Ken
||==============================||
// Kenneth R. Cechura, KC9UMR \\
// kcechura@umr.edu \\
\\ Station Trustee, KF9ART //
\\ Freq Amateur Radio Team //
||==============================||
>From k9la at gte.net Tue Jul 2 07:06:31 2002
From: k9la@gte.net (Carl K9LA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 and "early bird" logs
Message-ID: <3D218937.6090500@gte.net>
The IARU World HF Championship is right around the corner, within which
WRTC2002 is run.
Just a quick reminder to everyone that the WRTC2002 organizing committee
would like as many participants as possible to e-mail their contest logs
by 1800 UTC on July 14. These "early bird" logs will be used only for
log checking purposes related to the WRTC2002 teams.
There are incentives for doing this, and I encourage you to visit
www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm for the details. Any questions should be
directed to the WRTC2002 individuals indicated on the WRTC2002 web site.
Carl K9LA
NCJ Editor
>From roberto.soro at sia.it Tue Jul 2 14:23:30 2002
From: roberto.soro@sia.it (Soro Roberto)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MARCONI MEMORIAL ---e-mail problems---
Message-ID: <8160937F4F4CD111A93E00805FC1752909C03935@ntsiaexch.office.sia.it>
THIS NOTE COMES FROM MARCONI MEMORIAL MANAGER
IK6PTJ - Maurizio Fiorucci:
I just talked to him about the ik6ptj@qsl.net malfunction.
He was not aware, but now he is and he apologise and
will take immediate actions to solve this inconvenience.
Please QRX for a while and IK6PTJ will let know the contest community
about a suitable solution, may be either the old mail address
will work again or he will supply a new mail address.
Best 73,
Bob, I2WIJ (on behalf of IK6PTJ)
mailto:i2wij@qsl.net
http://www.qsl.net/i2wij/
___________________________________________________________________
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>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 2 16:07:53 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 and "early bird" logs
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12D7D@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
OI2HQ, Finnish Radio Relay League Headquarters station
will send logs within an hour of contest end to WRTC2002
organizing committee.
We will have a real All-Stars M/M effort with W2GD, K1CC,
N6TV, S56A/N1YU, UX1UA, N2NC, G4JVG, G4VXE to mention
a few of our oprerators.
OI2HQ is available in IARU2002 on all bands with several
stations QRV simultaneously.
73,
Jukka (OH6LI, OI2HQ organiser)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Carl K9LA [mailto:k9la@gte.net]
> Sent: 02 July, 2002 14:07
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 and "early bird" logs
>
>
> The IARU World HF Championship is right around the corner,
> within which
> WRTC2002 is run.
>
> Just a quick reminder to everyone that the WRTC2002
> organizing committee
> would like as many participants as possible to e-mail their
> contest logs
> by 1800 UTC on July 14. These "early bird" logs will be used only for
> log checking purposes related to the WRTC2002 teams.
>
> There are incentives for doing this, and I encourage you to visit
> www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm for the details. Any questions
> should be
> directed to the WRTC2002 individuals indicated on the
> WRTC2002 web site.
>
> Carl K9LA
> NCJ Editor
>
>
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From okh.npi at gte.net Tue Jul 2 13:17:45 2002
From: okh.npi@gte.net (Rich Dailey, KA8OKH)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Icom 706 CI-V
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020701070357.00bcd750@pop3.umr.edu>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020702121345.00baee68@mail.gte.net>
>mments, hints, etc. would be appreciated.... I just don't want to pay over
>100 bucks if i can avoid it for the Icom brand interface.
I've got *maybe* $2 in my icom interfaces. They can each control up to 4 rigs.
Get a copy of the July '92 QST article by kg7sg, or go here -
http://www.plicht.de/ekki/civ/civ-sch1.html
Hope this helps,
Rich
---
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<http://home1.gte.net/web22jfw>
Kentucky QSO Party template files for NA -
<http://home1.gte.net/web22jfw/kyqso.htm>
---
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 2 09:04:11 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX CW - NA Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207021504.g62F4BY25420@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX CW - NA Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXCW@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA M/M HP
6Y2A 10297 1295 48 40,300,000 NCCC
WL7E(@KL7Y) 5065 1091 47 16,458,826
WC4E(@W1CW/W1YL) 5205 1095 48 13,995,195 FCG
AL7NJ 4467 1014 48 12,664,860 BCC
NY4A(@N4AF) 4371 991 48 12,232,904 PVRC
VC6X(@VE6JY) 4312 1052 48 12,060,000
W4MYA 4206 1000 48 11,255,000 PVRC
NE6N(@N2NT) 4098 923 46 10,686,494 SCCC/FRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 3716 969 48 8,563,053 NCCC
KX7M 3564 939 48 8,459,451 NCCC
WX5S(@W6YX) 3545 966 48 7,984,956 NCCC
NT6K 1706 3464 48 2,234,280 NCCC
AK3Z 504 335 7 457,275 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA M/M QRP
TI5N(@TI5KD) 3173 895 48 7,500,000 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA M/S HP
8P4A 5723 1064 48 19,020,064 Kiev Contest Group
NP4Z 4290 950 46 12,209,400 FCG
KT1V 3652 994 47 10,775,954 YCCC
WW4T(@W4AN) 3806 998 47 10,666,624 SECC
NO2R(@K2NG) 3223 937 48 8,265,277 FRC
KM4M(@K4JA) 3118 923 48 8,120,554 PVRC
KZ4DX(@N4TO) 3199 952 48 7,785,456 FCG
N0NI 2936 930 48 7,000,000
XM7SV(@VE7SV) 2425 813 40 5,725,959 BC DX Club
NM5O(@N5YA) 2674 881 48 5,604,041 NTCC
VE7GL 2046 761 48 4,588,830
NC7J(@W7CT) 1869 684 48 2,800,296 UTAH CONTEST CLUB
WX6V 1609 651 47 2,617,020 NCCC
KI7Y(@K7ZUM) 1613 565 43 2,440,320 WVDXC
NZ1U(@KB1H) 1232 635 18 2,004,695 YCCC
W4NJK 227 136 31 53,584 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA M/S QRP
N2ED 1537 655 24 2,749,035 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(A)AB HP
K5KG 2227 806 36 6,347,250 FCG
K9NR 1567 598 33 2,335,788 SMC
WM6A(K6TA) 1108 516 22 1,345,728 NCCC
N4GG 923 501 26 1,250,997 PVRC
W5VX 1000 499 14 1,029,936
KD2HE 565 325 452,075
W3IQ 463 319 15 408,001 NCC
AI9T 375 963 262,899
KR5DX(K5NZ) 399 272 5 221,408 CTDXCC
VE7FO 125 113 37,968
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(A)AB LP
AB2E 705 402 24 682,998 FRC
VE3BUC 615 359 24 628,968
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(R)AB LP
K8KHZ 165 130 51,090 MRRC
VE3AGC 106 98 29,988
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(TS)AB HP
NR1DX 2291 746 36 4,809,462 YCCC
AG1C(N2GC) 1879 692 36 3,424,016 YCCC
VE1OP 1688 653 33 3,210,148
KZ5D 1811 715 34 3,058,770 Cajun Contest Club
N6CW 1524 650 30 2,372,500
N3UM 1331 582 25 2,071,338 PVRC
W4SAA 1224 552 34 1,821,600 FCG
W6TK 783 425 14 827,050 SCCC
KA2MGE 718 417 720,993
XM4YU(VE4YU) 620 355 19 607,760
K7XN 641 367 541,692 TOEC
WT9U 610 338 10 451,568 SMC
K0RI 449 304 14 327,408
K6III 370 286 12 249,964 NCCC
K6OWL 196 133 8 46,949
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(TS)AB LP
VE3XB 1256 539 36 2,081,079
NX6T(K6AM) 1360 589 35 1,801,162 San Diego Contest Cl
NA4K 1071 530 1,400,000 TCG
WD4AHZ 1103 514 23 1,387,286 FCG
N4CW/1 841 457 19 1,020,938 PVRC
KV8Q 864 425 33 867,425
N4YDU 734 403 17 792,701 PVRC
K8IR 652 393 27 642,162 BAY AREA WIRELESS
K7HBN 484 354 437,190 WWDXC
NO5W 646 322 36 411,838
N4VI 480 317 17 352,504 Grand Mesa
WV2LI(N2GA) 424 264 6 331,056 YCCC
XM6ZT(VE6ZT) 232 260 4 233,220
W4IDX 313 215 5 176,300 RR DX
KU3O 235 186 15 101,370 FCG
NQ4U 243 180 93,420 TCG
K8MR 78 69 1 14,973 MRRC
N2CU 77 71 1 13,277 Western New York DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(TS)SB15 HP
XM3ANX(VE3ANX) 1464 640 35 2,543,360
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3MQW 506 379 509,755
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(TS)SB40 HP
VE3XAX 682 357 29 1,058,505 U-VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOAB HP
FM5BH 3532 843 36 8,623,890
K3WW 2790 768 36 6,501,888 FRC
KN1DX(K4ZW) 2831 788 36 6,307,940 PVRC
KU6W(N6MJ) 2864 866 36 6,233,468 SCCC
KT3Y 2679 798 5,980,050 PVRC
WC1M 2558 788 36 5,857,204 YCCC
KF3B(N3RS) 2589 765 36 5,780,340 FRC
K3CR(LZ4AX) 2507 793 36 5,687,396 NCC
W6XR(N2YX) 2480 747 36 5,423,220
N5RZ 2695 841 36 5,413,517 NTCC
NT5C(N3BB) 2648 828 36 5,286,780 CTDXCC
AA3B 2346 764 36 5,101,228 FRC
N9RV(W8LVN) 2433 713 36 4,601,702 SMC
K5YA 2231 776 35 4,423,976 CTDXCC
W5KFT(K5PI) 2260 794 36 4,366,206 CTDXCC
KR7O(N6TV) 2212 762 36 4,298,442 NCCC
KC7V 2199 758 36 3,988,596 Central Arizona DX A
K4RO 2174 752 3,922,432
KO0U(K0OU) 1680 678 33 2,578,434 Kansas City DX Club
WI9WI 1642 636 25 2,510,928 SMC
WR7HE(K7QQ) 1558 657 28 2,499,885 YCCC
K5ZD 1133 547 11 1,634,436 YCCC
KO7X(@KI7WX) 939 489 14 1,200,006 PVRC
K6NR 819 442 21 796,484 SCCC
KY4AA(N4GN) 812 445 9 785,425 KCG
N6HC 794 428 17 709,196 SCCC
K2UOP 633 378 16 670,572 PVRC
N6ZZ 624 376 18 519,256 SCCC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 617 331 13 407,792 WVDXC
K4LQ 422 337 13 373,396 FCG
NW6P(K6RIM) 627 326 13 344,908 NCCC
WB0O 459 300 5 326,700
K5YAA 384 273 5 284,466 OkDX
N3RD 377 263 4 270,101 FRC
K5TR 457 274 5 267,972 Boring Amateur Radio
AD4L 273 184 7 138,552 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOAB LP
NF4A(N4PN) 2156 781 34 4,353,294 FCG
XL3NA(VA3NA) 1808 668 36 3,871,060
KS9K(N4TZ) 1712 664 36 3,004,600 SMC
NZ8O(W8MJ) 1678 652 36 2,699,932 MRRC
N1UR 1440 605 36 2,326,225 YCCC
AA6PW 1399 569 36 1,869,165 SCCC
NK4A(NF4A) 1013 499 16 1,221,552 FCG
WA1Z 947 470 36 1,189,570
K1HT 821 455 15 1,110,655 YCCC
K4EU 810 475 20 1,046,900 PVRC
XE2AC 1019 418 20 1,023,264
VE3IAY 799 385 982,135 CRDXC
W1TO 636 354 18 635,784 YCCC
N7WA 716 401 30 565,811 WWDXC
VE9DX 377 377 5 479,921
KE1F 532 319 28 406,406 FCG
W3CP 429 296 20 405,520 PVRC
VA3XRZ 344 221 255,918
AE9B 404 289 10 243,338 Kansas City DX Club
WA6OGO 431 271 221,949
N1LW 280 209 151,525 YCCC
W4NZ 248 202 142,006 TCG
NR7DX(K7ABV) 260 207 7 129,582
WA6BOB 333 206 15 121,128
K7JWD 390 158 16 61,620
K3FH 138 112 4 38,752
AE0Q 113 84 14,952 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOAB QRP
KG1D(K1KI) 862 473 21 1,246,828 YCCC
WQ1RP(K1RC) 840 434 35 909,230 New England QRP Club
N7IR 725 411 36 711,441 Central Arizona DX A
VE3RSA 249 191 135,992
K6SE 278 198 10 120,582
N8VW 140 121 34,969 MRRC
AG0T 135 105 16 23,100
KC0W 100 91 8 17,199
N9AVG 56 50 4 5,650 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB10 HP
KW4CW(N4BP) 954 502 28 1,054,200 FCG
WO8CC(N9AG) 419 295 25 242,195 SWODXA
VO1MP 300 205 10 176,095
WW4M(W4ZV) 222 177 6 81,774 PVRC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB10 LP
KN4Y 323 210 25 112,560 FCG
XM3STT(@VE3STT) 24 24 1,416
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB15 HP
ZF1A(W5ASP) 2552 790 5,116,830 TDXS
K2VV(@K4VX) 1687 745 34 3,116,335
KC4D(K4OAQ) 1633 704 33 2,970,880
WZ1R(N1RR) 1352 632 27 2,222,112 YCCC
W5TM(W5AO) 1397 649 30 2,182,587 OkDX
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1363 646 29 1,997,432
N8BJQ 1122 584 26 1,666,736
KM5G 1116 566 1,519,144 ozark contest club
KC5FU(N5QQ) 1033 561 23 1,330,824 NTCC
WS8O(W8GN) 353 254 12 222,504 NCC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB15 LP
N6MU(@N6NB) 927 564 36 1,201,320 SCCC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB15 QRP
VE3HG 98 93 25,203
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB160 HP
K1VW 91 65 14 7,995 YCCC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB160 LP
VE3OSZ 73 51 11 13,923 CRDXC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB160 QRP
N6WG 15 10 11 150
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB20 HP
FM5GU 1882 698 28 3,459,288 The Pordenone Gangst
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1672 720 36 3,027,600 MRRC
XM7SZ(VA7RR) 1670 714 36 3,004,512 BC DX Club
WZ5V(K0EJ) 1501 672 29 2,404,416 TCG
NI8L(K8DX) 1026 470 11 1,332,920 NCC
VA7XX 583 172 4 100,276
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB20 LP
XM3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 645 372 21 608,220 SKY CC
NJ3K 405 265 208,209
W0ETT 281 236 7 150,804 Grand Mesa
XE1NW 166 122 13 47,702
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB40 HP
K0RF 659 367 20 812,905
WK4R(N2NL) 561 363 8 812,757 FCG
NU5A(K5GN) 589 340 12 720,120 TDXS
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB40 LP
WK4Y 323 226 12 196,168 PVRC
W9SE 326 220 166,100 SMC
WS4NC(N4VHK) 161 132 16 62,304 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB80 HP
W7DRA 84 56 12 7,616
Operators:
3V8BB 4N1FG,S56A,YT1AD,YU1RL,YU7NU
6Y2A K2KW,KE7X,N6BT,N6XG,N6XI,W0YK,WA60
8P4A M0SDX,VE3DZ
9A7A 9A2ME,9A3OS,9A3TR,9A4BT,9A4PA,9A4RX,9A6DM,9A7V,
9A8A
A61AJ A61AJ,N2AA,S50A,S50R,S51RE,S52ZW,S53A,S53R,
S56JXX,S57DX,S57J,S58Q,S59AA
AK3Z A45ZN,AK3Z,K3LP,N3SB,WX3B
AL7NJ DK2OY,DL3LAB,DL4RDJ,DL6RAI,KL7RA,N1TX
AM6IB EA3AIR,EA3KU,EA5BM
CT7T CT1GFK,CT1GPQ,ON5UM
EA2AAZ EA2AAZ,EA2CLU
ES9C ES1DW,ES2NA,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,
ES5RN,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
F9IE F6BEE,F6FFM,F6FGZ,F8CRH
GX6YB G0WKW,G3TKF,G3XSV
KI7Y K5ZM,K7ZUM,KI7Y
KM4M K4JA,K9GY,K9JY,W3BP
KT1V AG9A,KT1V,NT1N
KX7M AD6E,KX7M,N6KJ,W6NV,W6RGG
KZ4DX K1TO,K4LQ,N4TO,W4IR,W4QM
L75FM LU4FPZ,LU7AWP,LU8DW,LU9DAH
N0NI K0KD,K0RX,N0AV,N0NI
N2ED K2AF,KC2BMG,N2ED
NC7J K7CO,NG7M,W7CT,W7FB,W7WIK
NE6N N2NC,N2NT,N6RT
NM5O AD5Q,N5UM
NO2R K2NG,K2TW,NO2R
NP4Z NP3A,NP4Z
NR6O K3EST,K6AW,K6XC,KI7WX,N6BV
NT6K KA6BIM,KO6UW,NT6K
NY4A K2AV,K7GM,N4AF,W2CS
NZ1U KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
OL5T OK1DSZ,OK1DXF,OK1FHI,OK1KA,OK1QM,OK1TC,OK1WWJ
OL7R OK1VWK,OK1WMV,OK1XUV
OL8M OK1AY,OK1CM,OK1DRQ,OK1DX,OK1FCJ,OK1MR
OZ0XX OZ1BIZ,OZ3ZW,OZ5WQ
RM6A RA6AU,RA6AX,RA6CM,RA6CO,RN6AA,RN6BN,RV6YZ,UA6CQ
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TI5N CX6VM,N0KE,W1XE/0,W8QZA/6
VC6X TI2WGO,VE5FN,VE6BF,VE6EX,VE6JY,VE7AV,ZL1JG
VE7GL VA7AO,VA7OO,VE7GL
W4MYA K1SE,K4GAU,W4HJ,W4MYA,W4TJ,W4TNX,WU4G
W4NJK W4NJK,WB8TDA
WC4E K1TO,K4FB,K4OJ,N4GI,N4KM,T93M,W1CW,W1YL,WC4E
WL7E AL1G,KL2A,KL7FH,KL7Y,KL9A,WA2GO,WL7E
WW4T K4BAI,KU8E,W4AN
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6UFO,N6DE,N7MH,W1SRD,W6CT,W6LD,
W7SW,WX5S
WX6V K6LRN,WX6V
XM7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
YM3LZ LZ1UQ,LZ2CJ,LZ2FI,LZ2FV,LZ2HM,LZ2UU,TA3D
YT6A T95A,VK1AA,YT6A,YT6PSF,YT6T,YU1RE,YU6ZD,YU7EU,
YU7FN,YZ7DX
YT9X YT1RA,YU1JW,YU1UH,YU1ZZ,YU7BW
ZX3S PU3AGN,PU3LOM,PY3BM,PY3CQ,PY3FBI,PY3MM,PY3NZ,
PY3PAZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 2 09:05:36 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX CW - Non-NA Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207021505.g62F5au25429@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX CW - Non-NA Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXCW@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA M/M HP
A61AJ 11008 1283 48 45,828,760 SCC
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7408 1163 48 18,438,202
9A7A 5539 1108 48 14,433,916 Croatian CC
OL5T 4874 1062 48 11,420,748
OZ0XX 3047 836 40 5,313,616
ZX3S(@PY3UEB) 1957 684 48 4,175,820 ARB/PY3MHZ
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA M/M LP
SK5EW 1895 661 40 2,619,543 TOEC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA M/S HP
3V8BB 5261 1076 48 19,649,912 YU CC
YM3LZ 3570 890 47 10,660,000 Bulgarian Contest Gr
YT6A 4027 1056 48 10,287,552 SKY CC
AM6IB 4257 1070 48 9,688,520
L75FM(@LU4FM) 3097 887 48 9,081,106
F9IE(@F6BEE) 3455 983 48 8,403,667 LNDX
RM6A(@RN6BN) 3558 1025 48 8,005,250 RW6AWT
OL8M 3229 973 48 7,416,206
YT9X(@YU1AAX) 3340 933 48 6,825,828 YU CC
GX6YB 3281 818 48 5,502,686 Bristol CG
OL7R(@OK1KUW) 6143 895 48 5,497,985
EA2AAZ 1613 644 38 2,169,636
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA M/S LP
CT7T(@CT1EPV) 2491 768 48 3,866,112 Algarve Dx Group
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(A)AB HP
OR2T(DL2CC) 3064 947 36 7,433,003
OE2S(OE2VEL) 2560 873 36 5,325,300 BCC
LY2CY 2059 777 36 3,658,116 Lithuanian DX
DF3IAL 1706 729 36 2,921,832 BCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1500 637 26 1,887,431
YL8M(YL2KL) 735 384 7 752,640 Latvian CC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(A)AB LP
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 1505 583 32 1,853,940
S57UN(@S52ZW) 1146 582 36 1,463,730 SCC
OR4APU 712 420 24 529,200
M6T(G4PIQ) 350 247 5 196,859 Martlesham DX & CG
DL6LAU 247 171 101,061 BCC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(A)SB15 HP
OR4ATW(ON4ATW) 952 506 963,424
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 1234 536 33 1,494,368
YZ1KA 917 454 30 850,342 YU CC
PY2DEZ 27 27 1,809 TuPY DX Group
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(TS)AB HP
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 3863 838 36 10,293,154 Pretoria Contest Clu
PJ4M(K2QM) 2187 688 36 5,574,176 FRC
8S5A(SM5AJV) 2621 784 36 4,241,440 TOEC
RW4PL 1615 634 28 2,074,448
HB9CZF 880 461 22 1,004,058
OE8CIQ 969 451 17 782,936 BCC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(TS)AB LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 2178 640 34 4,444,160 Chiltern DX Club
9A0DX(9A3PA) 2110 711 3,412,800 Croatian CC
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 2192 718 36 3,405,474
YL4U(YL2KL) 1423 653 24 1,892,394 Latvian CC
OM6RM 1021 452 30 987,620
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(TS)SB10 HP
DK2GZ 701 424 25 524,488 BCC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(TS)SB20 LP
IR2V(I2WIJ) 560 359 10 403,516 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
PA0JED 376 310 10 217,620
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(TS)SB40 HP
M0TTT 1223 541 30 2,004,405
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(TS)SB80 HP
OH3XR 431 252 8 245,700 CCF
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOAB HP
P41P(K0DQ) 3932 937 36 12,833,152 SECC
P40Y(AE6Y) 3625 901 36 11,059,775 NCCC
PJ2U(K6LA) 3053 814 36 9,362,628 SCCC
SN7Q(SP7GIQ) 3118 869 36 6,878,000
DF3CB(LY1DS) 3198 864 36 6,670,080 BCC
3G1X(XQ1IDM) 2503 751 36 6,429,311
TM9C(F5IN) 2622 745 36 4,420,830 U.F.T.
J41YM(OK1YM) 2746 805 36 4,400,935
OE1A(OE1EMS) 2397 781 34 4,397,811
DF0FS(DL1EKC) 1586 590 36 1,885,050 RR DX
DJ6QT 1099 556 30 1,355,528 RR DX
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1008 481 24 1,220,778
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOAB LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2979 821 35 8,010,497
WP3C 2132 701 35 4,121,880
OK2PP 2205 759 36 3,645,477 FCC
YL/RZ3BY(@YL2KF) 2210 701 36 3,134,872 Latvian CC
SM5G(SM5JBM) 1661 629 36 2,161,873 TOEC
LA3BO 1660 628 36 2,114,476
M7W(G4IIY) 1728 574 30 2,005,556
DL4SDW 1451 593 36 1,825,847 RR DX
HB9ARF 1495 564 1,682,412
OZ8AE 1140 570 1,363,440
HA5UX/7 1068 524 1,309,476
F6IRF 825 436 23 755,152 Yota Sawe DX group
PU7EEL 509 318 569,856 Guara DX Group
OZ0RS 709 364 20 480,480
G4WFQ 533 319 16 366,850
EA1WX 359 263 8 193,042
S51NZ 262 204 112,608
PR7AB 149 116 66,816 Guara DX Group
YL2PN 100 84 2 17,808 Latvian CC
PT2AW 48 44 7 6,248 TuPY DX GROUP
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOAB QRP
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 1550 534 30 2,655,048
OT2A(JK3GAD) 897 494 33 943,046
9A7P(9A5AEI) 140 120 3 31,440 WWYC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB10 HP
HZ1AB(SM0CXU) 2305 669 27 3,783,195
OD5/OK1MU 1554 570 35 2,223,570
9H1ZA 1460 600 30 1,525,200
YZ1AU 1259 573 1,356,291 YU CC
SN8V(SP8LBK) 625 388 21 417,876
SP9W(SP9HWN) 340 268 17 170,448
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB10 LP
LT1F(LU1FAM) 1405 616 25 2,557,016
L51EXU(LW1EXU) 1333 578 2,281,366
OH3RB(@OPH3RB) 563 310 21 232,810 CCF
PR7FN 38 38 4,028 Guara DX Group
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB15 HP
PU3A(PY3DX) 2531 857 6,452,353 Araucaria Dx Group
9H0A(9H1EL) 2966 956 36 5,651,872
9K9O(9K2RR) 2191 761 34 4,632,207 KUWAIT AMATEUR RADIO
S56M(@S50Q) 2000 803 36 3,547,654 SCC
SN3A(SP8NR) 1652 730 34 2,736,040 SP DX CLUB
DK3DM 1573 732 34 2,618,364 RR DX
OH7M(OH4XX) 1551 682 32 2,200,000 CCF
OK2ZC 1288 627 36 1,731,774 OK DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB15 LP
OK1DDO 925 527 1,065,067
SP4DEU 761 473 22 801,735
PY8AZT 453 308 25 411,180 Uirapuru DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB160 HP
RN2FA(@RW2F) 1014 245 248,430
IK4AUY 123 88 9 21,648 MCC Marconi Contest
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB160 LP
9A3RE 272 165 12 90,915
LY2GW 132 104 27,144
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB20 HP
TA0/Z37M(Z31GX) 2134 746 35 4,474,508
OH4A(OH6QU) 1996 778 36 3,222,476 CCF
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1502 677 36 2,741,850 SRR
OK5W(OK2ZW) 1740 736 2,733,504
YL6W(YL2GD) 1809 735 36 2,516,640 Latvian CC
SP8GWI/8 645 340 536,180
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1026 554 26 1,687,484 Sarajevo Contest Gro
LY6A(LY2BM) 1250 629 36 1,465,570
S57Z 1120 560 35 1,199,520
SM7VZX 1070 560 1,163,680 SCC
T94FC 1086 549 34 1,112,274 Sarajevo Contest Gro
F5NLY 878 530 23 866,020 LNDX (Les Nouvelles
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB40 HP
YW1D(YV1DIG) 1083 536 23 3,419,144 Radio Club Venezolan
9A5E 1368 602 35 2,681,308 Croatian CC
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1271 549 36 2,117,493
HA8DU 1178 549 2,080,710
9A4X 1058 507 1,607,697 Croatian CC
OM0WR 946 475 21 1,371,800
ES4RD 721 378 701,568
TM1C(F6ARC) 500 331 6 581,236
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB40 LP
YZ1U(YT1UR) 894 471 30 1,163,370 YU CC
S53F 929 450 36 1,113,750
S54A 814 444 28 1,042,068 SCC
4Z8EE(OK1EE) 300 209 15 351,329 Czech Contest Club
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB80 HP
Z39Z(Z32AF) 774 364 657,020 SKY CC
ZS4TX 101 60 6 35,820 Pretoria Contest Clu
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB80 LP
OK2ZV 541 300 336,000
PY7ZY 204 159 190,800 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
KH6DV 147 92 7 77,924
Operators:
3V8BB 4N1FG,S56A,YT1AD,YU1RL,YU7NU
6Y2A K2KW,KE7X,N6BT,N6XG,N6XI,W0YK,WA60
8P4A M0SDX,VE3DZ
9A7A 9A2ME,9A3OS,9A3TR,9A4BT,9A4PA,9A4RX,9A6DM,9A7V,
9A8A
A61AJ A61AJ,N2AA,S50A,S50R,S51RE,S52ZW,S53A,S53R,
S56JXX,S57DX,S57J,S58Q,S59AA
AK3Z A45ZN,AK3Z,K3LP,N3SB,WX3B
AL7NJ DK2OY,DL3LAB,DL4RDJ,DL6RAI,KL7RA,N1TX
AM6IB EA3AIR,EA3KU,EA5BM
CT7T CT1GFK,CT1GPQ,ON5UM
EA2AAZ EA2AAZ,EA2CLU
ES9C ES1DW,ES2NA,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,
ES5RN,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
F9IE F6BEE,F6FFM,F6FGZ,F8CRH
GX6YB G0WKW,G3TKF,G3XSV
KI7Y K5ZM,K7ZUM,KI7Y
KM4M K4JA,K9GY,K9JY,W3BP
KT1V AG9A,KT1V,NT1N
KX7M AD6E,KX7M,N6KJ,W6NV,W6RGG
KZ4DX K1TO,K4LQ,N4TO,W4IR,W4QM
L75FM LU4FPZ,LU7AWP,LU8DW,LU9DAH
N0NI K0KD,K0RX,N0AV,N0NI
N2ED K2AF,KC2BMG,N2ED
NC7J K7CO,NG7M,W7CT,W7FB,W7WIK
NE6N N2NC,N2NT,N6RT
NM5O AD5Q,N5UM
NO2R K2NG,K2TW,NO2R
NP4Z NP3A,NP4Z
NR6O K3EST,K6AW,K6XC,KI7WX,N6BV
NT6K KA6BIM,KO6UW,NT6K
NY4A K2AV,K7GM,N4AF,W2CS
NZ1U KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
OL5T OK1DSZ,OK1DXF,OK1FHI,OK1KA,OK1QM,OK1TC,OK1WWJ
OL7R OK1VWK,OK1WMV,OK1XUV
OL8M OK1AY,OK1CM,OK1DRQ,OK1DX,OK1FCJ,OK1MR
OZ0XX OZ1BIZ,OZ3ZW,OZ5WQ
RM6A RA6AU,RA6AX,RA6CM,RA6CO,RN6AA,RN6BN,RV6YZ,UA6CQ
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TI5N CX6VM,N0KE,W1XE/0,W8QZA/6
VC6X TI2WGO,VE5FN,VE6BF,VE6EX,VE6JY,VE7AV,ZL1JG
VE7GL VA7AO,VA7OO,VE7GL
W4MYA K1SE,K4GAU,W4HJ,W4MYA,W4TJ,W4TNX,WU4G
W4NJK W4NJK,WB8TDA
WC4E K1TO,K4FB,K4OJ,N4GI,N4KM,T93M,W1CW,W1YL,WC4E
WL7E AL1G,KL2A,KL7FH,KL7Y,KL9A,WA2GO,WL7E
WW4T K4BAI,KU8E,W4AN
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6UFO,N6DE,N7MH,W1SRD,W6CT,W6LD,
W7SW,WX5S
WX6V K6LRN,WX6V
XM7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
YM3LZ LZ1UQ,LZ2CJ,LZ2FI,LZ2FV,LZ2HM,LZ2UU,TA3D
YT6A T95A,VK1AA,YT6A,YT6PSF,YT6T,YU1RE,YU6ZD,YU7EU,
YU7FN,YZ7DX
YT9X YT1RA,YU1JW,YU1UH,YU1ZZ,YU7BW
ZX3S PU3AGN,PU3LOM,PY3BM,PY3CQ,PY3FBI,PY3MM,PY3NZ,
PY3PAZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 2 09:10:51 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RSGB Jubilee - All Claimed Scores 02Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207021510.g62FApJ25442@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RSGB Jubilee - All Claimed Scores 02Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 6, 2002
E-mail logs to: hf.contests@rsgb.org.uk
Mail logs to:
RSGB HF Contests Committee
c/o SV Knowles, G3UFY
77 Bensham Manor Road
Thornton, Heath
Surrey CR7 7AF
UK
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SCW HP
N2ED 78 12 2 3,900 FRC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SMixed HP
GQ6YB 2209 83 24 916,735 Bristol CG
MQ5ZAP 2171 62 24 673,010
G4FAL 999 32 159,840
XM4VV 892 33 21 146,850
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SSSB LP
CQ1CV(@CS6ARP) 567 55 12 155,925 Radio Clube Costa Ve
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)CW HP
GQ3TXF(G3TXF) 1405 62 20 429,970
K6III 67 19 8 100 NCCC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)Mixed HP
LY4AA(@LY7A) 597 80 20 238,800
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 300 23 3 33,925
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)Mixed LP
GQ4IIY(G4IIY) 616 22 9 67,760
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)SSB HP
VE7AVV 102 17 8 1,734 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOCW HP
9H1ZA 1885 75 706,875
GQ4ZVJ(G4ZVJ) 1202 65 24 390,650
G3LET 1190 63 23 374,850 HARC
GW3NJW 1152 51 21 293,760
GM4SID 848 45 20 190,800
N4BP 316 51 14 80,580 FCG
GQ5LP(G5LP) 450 23 5 51,750 Mid Beds Contest Ass
K2SX 120 27 16,200 YCCC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOCW LP
XM3IAY(VE3IAY) 168 25 21,000
RW3VZ 133 26 17,290
HB9ARF 150 20 15,000
AB2E 66 17 4 5,610 FRC
VE9DX 75 12 1 4,500
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOMixed HP
XM3EJ(VE3EJ) 1771 91 24 801,225
TI5/N0KE(@TI5KD) 225 44 10 49,500 Grand Mesa
SP9W(SP9HWN) 245 33 40,425
W4SAA 138 34 23,430 FCG
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOMixed LP
VE3MQW 224 34 38,080
ZC40DW(G0DEZ) 558 13 7 36,270 Eastern Sovereign Ba
LY2XW 224 30 33,600
K4OGG 143 20 13,800
GQ0DVJ(G0DVJ) 180 7 5 6,300
VO1TA(VO1WET) 386 8 6 1,930
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB HP
GS2MP(GM3WOJ) 1392 62 20 431,520 North of Scotland CG
GW0GEI 1044 48 15 250,560 Contest Cymru
XM3KZ(VE3KZ) 1021 42 214,200
GQ4BLE(GW4BLE) 711 39 138,645 Contest Cambria
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB LP
ZC40BS(G4KIV) 376 22 6 41,360
MQ5RIC(M5RIC) 409 8 16,360
9M2RPN(VK2CZ) 79 7 3 2,660
SV1XV 32 6 3 960
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB QRP
N3GXY 23 4 1 460
Operators:
CQ1CV CT1ERK,CT1ETE
GQ6YB G0HFX,G0WKW,G3TKF,G3XSV,G4FKA,G7ORR,M0AXF/EI3JE,
M0XXX
MQ5ZAP 5B4WN,M0TTT,M5ZAP
XM4VV VE4VV,VE4XT
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Tue Jul 2 13:34:08 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ron D. Rossi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] TRLog free version 1.06 fully supporting WRTC 2002
released...
Message-ID: <200207021634.MAA29058@johnpaul.btv.ibm.com>
Folks,
The latest version of TRLog Free has been released. TRFree Version 1.06
is based on the very latest TRLog Version 6.69 and is fully functional
except it only supports a limited list of contests. It includes full
logging support of WRTC 2002 including scoring and special
considerations for the "B" computer not being allowed to connect to a
radio. Cabrillo is not supported for WRTC at this time. The WRTC
committee accepts logs directly as a TR file (LOG.DAT).
A readme file with a detailed change history is included in the package or you
can read it at http://www.qth.com/tr/revhistory.html. Many enhancements have
been made in just the past few months, so the readme file is the best source
of documentation for them. Please e-mail me if you have questions.
You may download a copy at http://www.qth.com/tr.
Good luck to all the WRTC 2002 competitors!!
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron rossi(kk1l@arrl.net) <><
Support Programmer for TRLog
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From mjwetzel at comcast.net Tue Jul 2 17:25:17 2002
From: mjwetzel@comcast.net (Mike Wetzel)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 80 Meter Beam at W9RE
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.2.2.20020630101456.00b67200@mail.attbi.com>
Message-ID: <NCBBIPEKMKEIENBFHFHJMEPIFDAA.mjwetzel@comcast.net>
For all those asking about my 80 meter yagi presentation at Dayton, I have
finally finished the web page on it.
It is http://mywebpages.comcast.net/w9re/index.html
The 'hit counter' doesn't work yet and the numbers iding the pictures are
not aligned perfectly depending on your monitor. Other than that I think it
works.
Thanks for all the patience.
Mike W9RE
>From k8khz at comcast.net Tue Jul 2 19:23:41 2002
From: k8khz@comcast.net (Sean D. Fleming)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Club Callsigns
Message-ID: <000801c22217$1f01d080$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
Designs by ?2001 Stationery Heaven
I got this idea from another ham though wanted to check it out. If you and
other people such as a family member apply for a club call for a station
then you can contest with it. what license class does the station have or is
it of the control op at that time. and how would you use to file a score
with a contesting club at that time.
let me know your thoughts.
Sean , K8KHZ
http://www.geocities.com/k8khz
>From N6HC at aol.com Tue Jul 2 20:10:11 2002
From: N6HC@aol.com (N6HC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Sayre, PA
Message-ID: <6e.1eeac16b.2a538cd3@aol.com>
I'll be working in the area from July 8 to August 9, 2002. Any illustrious
participants on this reflector that reside in the area and wish to get
together with another reflector participant with similar amateur radio
interests?
73 Arnie N6HC
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>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Wed Jul 3 08:54:08 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (Timo)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Italy
Message-ID: <000501c2224d$c5be3b80$bec5f83e@tklimoff>
I going to make "a backpack tour" in Italy 17 July - 26 July 2002. I am
visiting at least in Roma, Firenze, Bologna and Milano.
If any Italian contester wants to meet over a beer or cappuchino, please email.
73 Timo OH1NOA / OH0NOA
-----------------------------------------------------------
Timo Klimoff timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi oh1noa@qsl.net
http://www.oh1noa.tk
>From contesting at eircom.net Wed Jul 3 08:33:07 2002
From: contesting@eircom.net (Tim Makins, EI8IC)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Scandinavian Activity Contest 1998
References: <004701c2086b$354c2220$3aa9a5c2@host>
<017401c208a6$dd331120$a2c5f83e@tklimoff> <013e01c20939$fa974a40$31aaa5c2@host>
<00bd01c2093d$acde4ca0$8ec5f83e@tklimoff>
Message-ID: <005d01c2225b$84a88480$8ea9a5c2@host>
I have just received a photocopy of 1998 SAC results from the Log Control
Co-ordinator. If anyone needs to know their scores, I will be happy to pass
the information on, though as this is on paper and will need to be hand
typed to your reply, please don't ask for 'all European Results' or 'all
Swedish Results' etc. !
73s Tim EI8Ic
www.qsl.net/ei8ic/
HF and Budget Contesting
>From W3DMB at aol.com Wed Jul 3 10:04:13 2002
From: W3DMB@aol.com (W3DMB@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Club Callsigns
Message-ID: <16c.ff89f66.2a54504d@aol.com>
RE:Club callsigns....
Sean,
The class of license of the License Trustee of the club callsign determines
what class the club license can be used as without very awkward composite
callsigns such as W3UDX/NO3Q if the stations trustee is a General and the
operator is an extra and wants to operate in the EXTRA portions of a band..
If the Station License TRUSTEE is an Extra then the call W3UDX (for example)
would be used "clean" by all operators although the subband restrictions on
individual operators still do apply. Note: During Field Day this
restriction seems to be ignored by almost all clubs...
This is usually so difficult that most clubs try to have as trustee an Extra
class licensee, that way the "correct" FCC call is easier to use. According
to FCC rules, an operator is restricted to frequencies authorized by his/her
class of license unless there is a control operator of the higher class
present.
If a club has a 1x2 call (that was usually reserved for extra class
operators) and the club has a General class operator file to be the trustee,
AND the club is made up now of Techs and Generals with no Extra class
operators, then the club would still hold the 1x2 call (which would look like
an Extra class) but could not legally operate in EXTRA class subbands.
With the new exams that we now have it should not be difficult to find an
individual who has an Extra class license to be the trustee to avoid the
mess.
Jerry, W3DMB
Trustee - W3UDX (Butler ARA club license)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In a message dated 02-Jul-02 21:50:59 Eastern Daylight Time,
k8khz@comcast.net writes:
> I got this idea from another ham though wanted to check it out. If you and
> other people such as a family member apply for a club call for a station
> then you can contest with it. what license class does the station have or
> is
> it of the control op at that time. and how would you use to file a score
> with a contesting club at that time.
> let me know your thoughts.
>
> Sean , K8KHZ
> http://www.geocities.com/k8khz
>
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>From mfiorucci at bigfoot.com Wed Jul 3 18:25:06 2002
From: mfiorucci@bigfoot.com (mfiorucci)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Log for Marconi Memorial Contest HF
Message-ID: <001101c222a6$cc930d60$1601640a@olidata>
Attention!!
The mailbox ik6ptj@qsl.net not work!!
Please, used temporarily ik6ptj@yahoo.it for send (or resend!) the log.
Thank you
ik6ptj
Contest Manager of Marconi Memorial Contest HF
www.qsl.net/ik6ptj/marconi.htm
>From gm3woj at talk21.com Wed Jul 3 17:22:09 2002
From: gm3woj@talk21.com (Chris Tran GM3WOJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Callsigns for WRTC 2002 ?
Message-ID: <000901c222a5$a317f640$09bafea9@chris.tranbtinternet.com>
Hello all
Can anyone tell me when a list of the exact callsigns in the
series OJ1 - OJ8 which are to be used by the WRTC 2002
teams will be available ? (I want to make up some check
sheets for our GB5HQ station) In WRTC 2000, I think the
list of S5xxx calls was available several days before the event.
73
Chris GM3WOJ
www.gm7v.com
>From tree at kkn.net Wed Jul 3 10:35:26 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC-2002
Message-ID: <200207031635.g63GZQU08285@loja.kkn.net>
Fellow contesters-
As you all know, WRTC-2002 will be taking place during the IARU contest
coming up in about 10 days. A few of us get to go to Helsinki to enjoy
the party, but the rest of us get to stay home. However, that doesn't
mean we can't all be part of the event.
Your radio can help connect you to the fun. This is a great chance
to turn on your radio - tune around and find guys to work. Even if you can
only spend an hour or two doing it - this will be enough time to show up in
the majority of the WRTC competitor's logs.
To help recognize those who do this - the Boring Amateur Radio Club will
put together a web page listing all of those stations who worked at least
10 of the WRTC stations (with the special OJ previx). Simply submit your
list of QSOs to barc@jzap.com to be listed.
There are also other awards programs being sponsored by the WRTC committee.
You can find out more about them at http://www.wrtc2002.org/general.htm.
Let's all try to get on for a little and be a part of this great event.
I will have a guest op at my station (the ham formerly known as XE1/AA6RX),
but will setup a station out in the barn to work some of the guys with my
own callsign.
For most of the US, the best time to work these guys will be shortly after
sunset on 20 meters (or perhaps 15 if the sun gets some spots). Here in
the pacific northwest, the Europeans are VERY loud at this time and the
WRTC guys should be easy to find and work - even with a modest setup.
You might also want to hand out some QSOs to the "other" people in the
contest as well. The exchange is an RST and your ITU zone. Both modes
are used during the contest. You can find the full rules on the arrl.org
web page.
It might be almost as much fun as the Florida QSO Party.
73 Tree N6TR
tree@kkn.net
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Wed Jul 3 17:48:58 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Club Callsigns
References: <16c.ff89f66.2a54504d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3D232AFA.B56EE7F@directvinternet.com>
To add to the timely remarks from others, one other note is in order.
IF the callsign being used is NOT a club call, the holder of that call
MUST be present at all times.
Field day isn't the only place this rule has been ignored.
73
Ed
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Jul 3 11:13:47 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 03Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207031713.g63HDl626556@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 03Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Wed Jul 3 11:36:27 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Club Callsigns
In-Reply-To: <3D232AFA.B56EE7F@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <20020703173627.44167.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi Ed and others..
One correction... As long as the holder of the
Call being used has designated an authorized
CONTROL OPERATOR to oversee the operations, the
holder of the callsign need not be present at the
op. The control operator(s) MUST be present to
maintain control over the operation.
Beyond that.. the person who holds the callsign
may go away. Of course.. should 'situations
arise' the holder of the callsign AND the control
op will be responsible for dealing with the
fallout.
Of course, the privledges authorized the station
are only those in concert with the holder of the
call OR the control operator (usually they hold
the same class of license).
You are correct, absolutely, in your thinking
that the rule is violated all the time when a
Club will allow a Call to be used at and event
and the trustee/holder of the call 'goes away'
and does not have a designated control operator
present to act in their stead.
73
Chuck K3FT
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>From Bill at ng3k.com Wed Jul 3 16:21:00 2002
From: Bill@ng3k.com (Bill@ng3k.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Announced Operations for Sep-Oct 2002 NCJ
Message-ID: <3D23165C.27391.25FE003@localhost>
Fellow Contesters,
The deadline for Contest-related DXpedition announcements
for the Sep/Oct 2002 issue of the National Contest Journal
issue is July 20. This issue should arrive in your mailboxes
during the first or second week in September.
Now is the time to relate your Dxpedition plans for the Fall
CQWW DX contests, as well as the ARRL 10m and 160m
contests. Please get them to me prior to the July 20
deadline so that they can appear in the Sep/Oct issue.
You can complete a Web-based form at:
http://www.ng3k.com/Contest/consub.html
or you can E-mail to:
Bill@ng3k.com
including:
o Callsign to be used
o DXCC entity
o CQ Zone (for the CQWW contests)
o Entry class anticipated
o QSL route
o Your callsign and public E-mail address
o Operators + other information of likely interest
You can review what has been received to-date at:
http://www.ng3k.com/Contest/conasc.html
Thanks in advance and 73,
Bill/NG3K
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Wed Jul 3 19:00:11 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC-2002
Message-ID: <7c.2a55a99e.2a54cdeb@aol.com>
Tree,
Although it will be a serious come-down from the Florida QSO Party, Fred,
NA2U, and I will be operating from J75KG in the IARU contest. We hope that
all of the boys will take break from working the WRTC-OJ's and listen for us
to the south. We are good for a Zone 11 mult. We will be 80 thru 10 meters,
Inshallah.
73, George, J75KG (ex. K4FQP as in Florida Qso Party!)
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Jul 4 05:05:51 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
Message-ID: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
QST QST QST
Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
Quack
Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
> Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
>
> Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
>
> Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
14.
> 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
14.265
> 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> 78720-0812.
>
>
>
>
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>From Bill at ng3k.com Thu Jul 4 07:28:49 2002
From: Bill@ng3k.com (Bill@ng3k.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
Message-ID: <3D23EB21.17556.33F0AD@localhost>
I wasn't going to do this again this year, but since
folks are sending me information I'm relenting. This
is the URL for my list of HQ Stations planning to be
active in the IARU HF World Championship 2002:
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iaru2002.html
If you have information relating to a HQ (or IARU
Administrative Council or IARU regional Executive)
station that's planning to be active and would like
to have it listed here, please send it to:
Bill@ng3k.com
Hope this information proves useful to some of you.
73,
Bill/NG3K
>From N5RP at pdq.net Thu Jul 4 09:15:27 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704081107.00b92860@pop.pdq.net>
At 04:05 7/4/2002 +0000, Rex Maner wrote:
>QST QST QST
>Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
>
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z
> Jul 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465, 21.365,
> 14.265, 7.265.
> > QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX 78720-0812.
==========================>
I think we should all get in there and work this special event setup.
Who knows what the certificate might look like.
Volleyball, anyone ?
Bob Perring
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Thu Jul 4 09:22:36 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
In-Reply-To: <3D23EB21.17556.33F0AD@localhost>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704081706.00ba1a68@pop.pdq.net>
At 06:28 7/4/2002 -0400, Bill@ng3k.com wrote:
>I wasn't going to do this again this year, but since
>folks are sending me information I'm relenting. This
>is the URL for my list of HQ Stations planning to be
>active in the IARU HF World Championship 2002:
>
> http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iaru2002.html
==========================>
I see callsign NU1AW listed,
and thanks to Rex,
we now know NU5DE will be in there, as well.
Does NU5DE count as a special multiplier ?
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Thu Jul 4 09:52:10 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJGEKLEFAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
There seems to be a lot of activity in those groups....
Check the sign I found on a highway outside Austin:
http://www.hal-pc.org/~kg5u/index.html
73,
dale, kg5u
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Rex Maner
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 23:06
> To: CQ-CONTEST
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
>
> QST QST QST
> Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
> Quack
>
> Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
> > Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
> >
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> >
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
> 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
> 14.265
> > 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> > 78720-0812.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Thu Jul 4 10:00:02 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704085405.00b3a198@pop.pdq.net>
Here is a clarification on the IARU headquarter stations status for IARU 2002.
===========================
>NU1AW is the IARU HQ station.
>
>This is what the rules say:
>
> Multipliers: The total number of ITU zones plus IARU
> member society HQ stations worked on each band (not
> mode.) IARU officials represent a maximum of four
> multipliers per band (AC, R1, R2 and R3).
>
>Last year W6ROD was the R2 station. So unless NU5DE
>is an "IARU officials" station, it doesn't count as a
>multiplier.
=========================
So,
Last year, you could work a ROD, and it counted as an R2 bonus mult.
NU5DE will not count as an IARU 2002 bonus mult, whether the op has a rod,
or not.
.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From W4EF at dellroy.com Thu Jul 4 08:31:42 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Michael Tope)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
References: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <102601c22367$860a49a0$6501a8c0@1800XP>
Sounds like we need a new category for these folks, Quack?
How about SOBN - single operator buck naked?
Of course in this category the problems associated with
RF in the shack take on a whole new importance :)
Elmer Fudd, W4EF..................................
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
To: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:05 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
>
> QST QST QST
> Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
> Quack
>
> Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
> > Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
> >
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> >
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
> 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
> 14.265
> > 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> > 78720-0812.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>From hwardsil at centurytel.net Thu Jul 4 16:14:23 2002
From: hwardsil@centurytel.net (Ward Silver)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
References: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <003301c2236d$7ba036e0$27d7fea9@mirage>
Good thing it's not an ATV or SSTV contest...
73, Ward N0AX
> QST QST QST
> Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
> Quack
>
> Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
> > Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
> >
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> >
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
> 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
> 14.265
> > 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> > 78720-0812.
>From w2up at mindspring.com Thu Jul 4 16:11:07 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
Message-ID: <3D24658B.11150.FF1B40@localhost>
Recently installed a new computer and having an odd problem.
When transmitting with the amp on, I get hum in my computer speakers
(Harman Kardon with a subwoofer and 2 tweeters), but only when my
stubs are switched in, and only on 15m. It's either coming from the
speakers' AC line or the connection between speakers, as the hum is
still there when not connected to the computer. I've tried ferrites on the
audio and AC lines, but that didn't help. Ideas?
Tnx,
Barry--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Thu Jul 4 17:45:33 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Press release #21: OJ call signs released
Message-ID: <01c22361$11bd1740$97c5f83e@default>
The call signs ( from OJ1-OJ8 prefix block) in WRTC2002 Contest used by 52
teams will be:
OJ1C OJ1F OJ1M OJ1N OJ1S OJ1W OJ1X
OJ2F OJ2H OJ2J OJ2Q OJ2V OJ2Y OJ2Z
OJ3A OJ3D OJ3N OJ3R OJ3T OJ3X
OJ4A OJ4M OJ4N OJ4S OJ4W
OJ5A OJ5E OJ5M OJ5T OJ5U OJ5W OJ5Z
OJ6C OJ6E OJ6K OJ6N OJ6W OJ6X OJ6Y
OJ7A OJ7C OJ7M OJ7N OJ7S OJ7W OJ7X
OJ8A OJ8E OJ8K OJ8L OJ8N OJ8W
You can download an Excel -checklist for the contest from:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/ojcalls.xls
Remember also our WRTC2002 Worked All New OJ prefixes awards and special
plaques + our special "Early Bird" prizes ( All e-mail logs submitted within 6
hours after the contest ends will participate in a lottery with special
WRTC2002 prizes), read full details: http://www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm .
WRTC2002 Organizing Committee
>From n5nw at n5nw.org Thu Jul 4 14:07:39 2002
From: n5nw@n5nw.org (Marty N5NW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A plane trip conversation from Dayton 2002
Message-ID: <001401c2237d$531b7df0$3339a8c0@dayton.hospiceofdayton.org>
Although I'm now local to Dayton, I had a business trip to take and found
myself at the Dayton airport for a 1:35pm flight Sunday afternoon after the
Dayton Hamvention, bound for Detroit. Probably 20 or 25 hams on the flight
(regional jet, capacity around 65 I'd guess). As we were waiting, the only
seat vacant was next to me. Who walks down the aisle?
Martti Lane, OH2BH.
Man, what an absolute stroke of luck. 45 uninterrupted minutes of
conversation with perhaps one of the greatest ambassadors of ham radio in
the world. I almost felt like I'd been granted an audience with the Pope or
something ... But here was a very down-to-earth guy genuinely interested in
a conversation with me. Very sincere, very genuine, and very easy to speak
with.
Martti spoke at the contest forum, and is currently organizing WRTC 2002 in
Finland. But on the plane, he spoke to me about the first WRTC in Seattle,
and the problems that were encountered that the Organizing committee was
trying to avoid 10 years later.
That led to a discussion of what good ham radio can do as ambassadors, and
how little the typical DXpedition (both general DX and contest) adds to the
local environment. He (like I) visited Albania. I made about 45 contacts.
He made several thousand contacts, and created 20 or so licensed amateurs,
and instituted the amateur radio system in the government of Albania. Even
the license document format (double columns, in Albanian and English) was
his creation.
He didn't say this to brag ... far from it. Rather, making a positive
impact on the locations he visits has become a priority. He was so taken
aback by the hospitality of the Albanian people, and how the experience
impacted him (and his son, who accompanied him). But since then, his
outlook on DXpeditions has changed. As he told me, DXers will never be the
Red Cross, nor should we be. But we (as a whole) need to examine ways we
can leave the areas we visit better than we found them. And not just with
our equipment. We have to also share our knowledge. And, hard as this is
to realize, we may have a little to learn ourselves. Martti freely admits
he got more from his experience in Albania than he left.
He spoke of his host family back in 1992, and the matriarch going about each
morning to gather the day's food from various vendors in the neighborhood in
which they lived. This same ritual occurred during my visit two years ago.
One shop for bread, another for produce, another for meat. Nothing beyond
that day, as preservation of foods is still quite difficult, and appliances
hard to come by.
But one particular morning, the matriarch returned with something special.
After asking around, she had located an egg. One egg. And as the family
gathered, they insisted that Martti's son enjoy the egg that obviously they
hadn't had in some time. Martti's son told him that was the most difficult
egg he had ever eaten. But the family did receive their reward ... they
enjoyed him, enjoying the egg!
He spoke of the Solomon Islands trip, and how they convinced the locals to
manufacture soaps and other materials from the native coconut trees. For a
$25 donation to the local cause, you got a commemorative QSL, rather than
the standard QSL. You got the card perhaps a few days quicker. But the
locals got the money. He expected to raise perhaps $4,000 to $5,000 and
ended up with five times that, through the generosity of the DX community.
I really didn't intend that this sound "preachy". But I hope we all begin
asking questions of the DXpeditions about how they have a positive impact on
the places they visit. I hope we demand our contesters who were selected
for WRTC also remember that they are ambassadors for amateur radio and the
USA, whether or not they want to be. The WRTC is an excellent opportunity.
Recall the US Hockey Team at the Nagano Olympics? They trashed the place
after a loss. They did not remember that they were not only competetors,
but also Ambassadors.
Other countries come to mind -- North Korea offers some real opportunities,
just as Albania did in 1970 when Martti first visited. It took 22 years,
but Amateur Radio is now established. And the Albanian regime was even
tougher than the current North Korean regime! Many inroads can still be
made in Southeast Asia, China, and the African continent. Ham Radio --
Ambassadors of International Goodwill.
Martti, thanks for sharing that plane ride with me. It has changed my
outlook on Amateur Radio, and how we might impact our world for positive
change.
de N5NW/8 (Marty)
Bellbrook, Ohio
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Thu Jul 4 14:17:30 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704081706.00ba1a68@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDMEHEELAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Bob, N5RP
> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 09:23
> To: Bill@ng3k.com; CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
>
>
> At 06:28 7/4/2002 -0400, Bill@ng3k.com wrote:
> >I wasn't going to do this again this year, but since
> >folks are sending me information I'm relenting. This
> >is the URL for my list of HQ Stations planning to be
> >active in the IARU HF World Championship 2002:
> >
> > http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iaru2002.html
> ==========================>
> I see callsign NU1AW listed,
>
> and thanks to Rex,
> we now know NU5DE will be in there, as well.
>
> Does NU5DE count as a special multiplier ?
> Bob Perring
The NU5DE QSL card is singularly unsatisfying, but still is an
item of interest in this shack!
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
>From nt5c at texas.net Thu Jul 4 13:34:33 2002
From: nt5c@texas.net (John Warren)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Life is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJGEKLEFAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
References: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJGEKLEFAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Message-ID: <p04330100b94a44b64cea@EIM-Mac-1.0.7>
>There seems to be a lot of activity in those groups....
>
>Check the sign I found on a highway outside Austin:
>
>http://www.hal-pc.org/~kg5u/index.html
>
>73,
>dale, kg5u
...or our favorite bumper sticker: KEEP AUSTIN WEIRD
73, John, NT5C.
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Thu Jul 4 14:40:55 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NU5DE and Operating Style
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704081706.00ba1a68@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDGEHFELAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
All the NU5DE conversation brings to mind the cartoon I
found recently.
http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/images/CasualFriday.jpg
Given that *I* am a telecommuter, and the temperature in my
workspace has been over 90 degF for many hours each day
over the past week, this image resonates!
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Jul 4 12:30:43 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Supporting The WRTC- AKA working the OJ's
References: <200207041602.g64G2uKF003669@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <034d01c2236f$c2ef4d40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
I agree, we all should make an effort to participate in the Radiosport next
weekend...and a little extrat effort be made to target band times favourable
for northern European QSOs...Radiosport is a fun contest - short enough to
do the full stint even for us old guys! It is a simple exchange (justy
remember it is your ITU NOT your CQ zone you are sneding...see ARRL web page
for the list of ITU zones)
Work as many calls with OJ in them as possible on as many different bands as
possible, that is ALWAYS a good philosophy...except for SS :-)
I slightly disagree with N6TR about whether or not the Radiosport will be as
much fun as the Florida QSO Party - they do share a lot in common...
You will be working some of the finest operators in the world - and - you
will be working members of the Florida Contest Group, too!
9 days 'til WRTC and Radiosport 2,002!
Good luck also to the W1AW/5 crew...go team USA!
73,
K4 OJ
(aka operator K4FCG in the one and only Florida QSO Party)
>From nt5c at texas.net Thu Jul 4 14:18:14 2002
From: nt5c@texas.net (John Warren)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Life is stranger than fiction
Message-ID: <p04330101b94a4fd0e8a1@EIM-Mac-1.0.7>
>There seems to be a lot of activity in those groups....
>
>Check the sign I found on a highway outside Austin:
>
>http://www.hal-pc.org/~kg5u/index.html
>
>73,
>dale, kg5u
...or our favorite bumper sticker: KEEP AUSTIN WEIRD
73, John, NT5C.
>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Thu Jul 4 20:04:58 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] GW7X QSLs
Message-ID: <VA.00000190.0085307b@gw3njw>
Hi
If you have sent a direct QSL to Contest Cambria, probably to
the manager GW3XEJ, you might be fretting that you have not yet
received a reply .
Frankly, we underestimated the attraction of the GW7X call (
about 100:1 cf my own call), and our usual printing system has
been quite overwhelmed. We currently await a bulk printing from
UT land, and as soon as they are available, the backlog will be
cleared.
Please accept our apologies for this discourtesy. We hope to see
you all in the forthcoming contests. fyi, member Ed/G3SQX ( aka
N0ED) will activate the call as GM7X in the IOTA contest at the
end of the month, so don't be confused, as this will not show in
the SCP database as yet.
Thank you for your indulgence and the bandwidth.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
Contest Cambria
>From 107770.3462 at compuserve.com Thu Jul 4 17:28:28 2002
From: 107770.3462@compuserve.com (James P. Cassidy)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NU5DE
Message-ID: <200207041628_MC3-1-514-36F2@compuserve.com>
Possibly another operator category if its an outdoor FD type operation, SO
Sunburned Operator? 73 Jim KI7Y
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Fri Jul 5 00:46:57 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Supporting The WRTC- AKA working the everybody i.e.
participating IARU2002
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12D9D@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Gents,
There are also others that will have fun.
OJ*.* is just one bunch of happy teams.
Pls visit
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iaru2002.html
to see some of the Headquarters Radio Leagues
all over the World have on the air.
We will have as much fun.
Headquarters stations will have also the Top Band,
which OJ*.* stations are lacking.
CU in IARU 2002 Radiosport July 13-14th, 12-12Z !
73,
Jukka, OH6LI
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Jim White [mailto:k4oj@tampabay.rr.com]
> Sent: 04 July, 2002 18:31
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Supporting The WRTC- AKA working the OJ's
>
>
> I agree, we all should make an effort to participate in the
> Radiosport next
> weekend...and a little extrat effort be made to target band
> times favourable
> for northern European QSOs...Radiosport is a fun contest -
> short enough to
> do the full stint even for us old guys! It is a simple
> exchange (justy
> remember it is your ITU NOT your CQ zone you are
> sneding...see ARRL web page
> for the list of ITU zones)
>
> Work as many calls with OJ in them as possible on as many
> different bands as
> possible, that is ALWAYS a good philosophy...except for SS :-)
>
> I slightly disagree with N6TR about whether or not the
> Radiosport will be as
> much fun as the Florida QSO Party - they do share a lot in common...
>
> You will be working some of the finest operators in the world
> - and - you
> will be working members of the Florida Contest Group, too!
>
> 9 days 'til WRTC and Radiosport 2,002!
>
> Good luck also to the W1AW/5 crew...go team USA!
>
>
> 73,
>
>
> K4 OJ
> (aka operator K4FCG in the one and only Florida QSO Party)
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From K5NZ at aol.com Thu Jul 4 18:48:11 2002
From: K5NZ@aol.com (K5NZ@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC
Message-ID: <18e.a2a72e3.2a561c9b@aol.com>
To all you WRTC teams.. Have a great experience and good luck!
USA USA USA!
nz
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>From k8cx at hamgallery.com Thu Jul 4 21:43:13 2002
From: k8cx@hamgallery.com (Thomas Roscoe)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dayton 2002 Gallery is up!
Message-ID: <3D24EBA1.197B1DDD@hamgallery.com>
The Dayton 2002 Gallery is now up at http://hamgallery.com/dayton2002/.
The Gallery has 154 photos this year. I took 97 photos and the rest came
from W4MYA, XE1L, VP5JM, N1DG, K8AV, and K8KHZ. There are still some
unidentified people in these photos. If you know who these unknown hams
are, please let me know.
There is photo coverage of the Contesters Banquet, Top Band Dinner, DX
Dinner, and Crowne Plaza Hospitality Suites.
I am interested in putting up a WRTC 2002 Gallery. Unfortunately, I
won't be able to attend. If you go, take some pics and send them to me
for the Gallery. You can email them to k8cx@hamgallery.com or burn them
on a disk and mail it to:
Tom Roscoe K8CX
857 N. Albright McKay Rd.
Brookfield, Ohio 44403
Tnx,
Tom...K8CX...
>From k7qq at netzero.net Fri Jul 5 05:04:55 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
Message-ID: <00d801c223d9$80224480$da262a42@k7qq>
Perfect Fix
Turn the speakers OFF
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 15:11
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
> Recently installed a new computer and having an odd problem.
> When transmitting with the amp on, I get hum in my computer speakers
> (Harman Kardon with a subwoofer and 2 tweeters), but only when my
> stubs are switched in, and only on 15m. It's either coming from the
> speakers' AC line or the connection between speakers, as the hum is
> still there when not connected to the computer. I've tried ferrites on the
> audio and AC lines, but that didn't help. Ideas?
> Tnx,
> Barry--
> Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>
>
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>From aa4lr at arrl.net Fri Jul 5 09:46:55 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Computer time syncronization without using the
internet???
Message-ID: <20020705124825.LBPD25736.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 6/26/02 6:54 PM, VR2BrettGraham at vr2bg@harts.org.hk wrote:
>VA7NT needs to accurately set a computer's clock without resorting to
>the Internet.
Got GPS? Before you can know where you are, your GPS receiver has to
figure out what time it is, and does so very accurately.
GPS is how the NCCC beacon stations stay synchronised.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Fri Jul 5 10:40:36 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>; from Rex Maner on Thu, Jul
04, 2002 at 04:05:51AM -0000
References: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <20020705094036.C1763@cs.utexas.edu>
The astute observer will notice that this special event station's
operation overlaps with the W1AW/5 ARRL HQ operation in the Austin, TX
area in the IARU HF World Championship.
Keep Austin Weird.
On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 04:05:51AM -0000, Rex Maner wrote:
>
> QST QST QST
> Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
> Quack
>
> Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
> > Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
> >
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>From aa4lr at arrl.net Fri Jul 5 14:20:29 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Restoring High Band/Low Band categories in ARRL DX Test
Message-ID: <20020705172030.EKZP1238.imf24bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 6/18/02 9:25 AM, Dave Hachadorian at K6LL@adelphia.net wrote:
>
>2. There are a lot of stations around the world
>who have a small tower and tribander
>in the back yard, and an assortment of low,
>seriously compromised antennas for 40,
>80, and 160. There is not much incentive for these
>stations to get on the air in the
>all band category, since they know that they
>cannot turn in a competitive score. On the
>other hand, a tribander can do a quite creditable
>job on the high bands, which would
>encourage activity.
I know I'm a bit late to the party on this issue, but I'd like to
disagree with Dave here. I believe there's an errant assumption at work
here.
If the sole purpose of operating contests was to put in a winning score,
then the sport would soon dwindle down to just a dozen or so "serious"
contesters.
The guys (like me) with a small tower and tribander and compromised
antennas for the other bands aren't necessarily competing against
everyone else in the same category. Sometimes, we're just out to turn in
a better score than last year, or to beat the guy down the street, or in
the next county.
The small tower / tribander guys are already going to be concentrating on
the higher bands -- that's where their stations are effective. I don't
see where a high/low band split would encourage activity here. If
anything, it might lower single band scores on the lower bands since
folks won't bother even trying them out.
I don't think you encourage activity by limiting bands -- why not a TS
category, like that in WPX? (Although this has it's own inequities, as a
guy with a C51XR at 100 feet likely outclasses the guy with a HF4B at 20
feet)
>To me, the payoff in any contest is to enjoy the
>contest experience itself, and, afterward, to
>to see how I ranked, with the data arranged the
>way I like to see it presented.
I really like seeing the internet results. I found out I was #78 out of a
field of 800-odd in low-power SS Phone. Maybe this year, I can break into
the top 50 again.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From w9wi at w9wi.com Fri Jul 5 13:43:02 2002
From: w9wi@w9wi.com (Doug Smith W9WI)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Hum and stubs
In-Reply-To: <200207051603.g65G3f5r013440@contesting.com>; from
cq-contest-request@contesting.com on Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 12:03:41PM -0400
References: <200207051603.g65G3f5r013440@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <20020705124302.A7903@w9wi.com>
> From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
>
> Perfect Fix
> Turn the speakers OFF
That might not help!
Seriously, in my experience computer speakers are just about the most
RF-sensitive pieces of gear out there. In many of our offices at work we
have to put Radio Shack choke cores on the cables (both power and audio) or
we get WSM-FM louder than we get the computer audio.
The choke cores should work just fine for HF too. Though Rex is probably
right that the easiest fix is to just turn them off...
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com
>From k2av at contesting.com Fri Jul 5 15:13:14 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
References: <00d801c223d9$80224480$da262a42@k7qq>
Message-ID: <001701c2244f$a12ef260$0500a8c0@swift>
Try RF in the shack, plus your new stuff is poorly rf-proofed from the
factory (big surprise), and the stubs are just changing the lengths of
things, so the hot spots move around.
Check the archives on TowerTalk for a huge wealth of commentary on
grounding, etc.
73, Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
To: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 12:04 AM
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
> Perfect Fix
> Turn the speakers OFF
> Quack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 15:11
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
>
>
> > Recently installed a new computer and having an odd problem.
> > When transmitting with the amp on, I get hum in my computer
speakers
> > (Harman Kardon with a subwoofer and 2 tweeters), but only when my
> > stubs are switched in, and only on 15m. It's either coming from
the
> > speakers' AC line or the connection between speakers, as the hum
is
> > still there when not connected to the computer. I've tried
ferrites on the
> > audio and AC lines, but that didn't help. Ideas?
> > Tnx,
> > Barry--
> > Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> > Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
> >
> >
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>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Fri Jul 5 15:35:02 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 IARU 2002 Bulletin #3
In-Reply-To: <20020619162639.D9927@cs.utexas.edu>; from Kenneth E. Harker on
Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 04:26:39PM -0500
References: <20020619162639.D9927@cs.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <20020705143501.H2236@cs.utexas.edu>
BULLETIN #3
5 July 2002
Propagation Predictions for W1AW/5
Central Texas area contesters are gearing up for the 2002 IARU HF World
Championship the weekend of 13-14 July. Six area contest stations will
be signing W1AW/5, representing the United States of America as the ARRL
"Headquarters Station."
To help prepare for the contest, W1AW/5 team member Tom Whiteside N5TW
has prepared a set of propagation predictions for the weekend. Tom used
IC Graph, a Visual Basic application he wrote for use inside Microsoft
Excel. IC Graph uses the IONCAP HF propagation software engine to produce
data that it then charts in Microsoft Excel. For more information on Tom's
software, which he has made available to the Amateur Radio community, visit
the IC Graph distribution page on the Central Texas DX & Contest Club web
site at: http://www.ctdxcc.org/icgraph/.
The propagation predictions are available online and are based on an assumed
solar flux of 135: http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr/misc/w1aw/iaru_propagation.html
The predictions include specific short path predictions between the central
Texas W1AW/5 stations and England, Germany, Russia, Japan, Australia, China,
Siberia, Jordan, the Caribbean, north Africa, south Africa, Argentina, and
India. Long path predictions were also generated for Russia and India. The
predictions can be viewed by destination or by band. Please send comments
and questions about the IC Graph predictions to Tom Whiteside N5TW at
n5tw@igg-tx.net.
The W1AW/5 stations are some of the most exceptional contest stations in
the central United States. The team considers these predictions to be merely
rough guides and will certainly be looking to make every QSO with every
station possible worldwide, whether the predictions suggest it is likely
or not. W1AW/5 will be on all the band-modes for the entire twenty four hours.
ARRL Headquarters will handle all QSL requests. QSL via W1AW: 225 Main
Street, Newington, CT 06111, USA. Please do not send QSL cards to the
W1AW/5 station owners or operators.
Please direct comments or questions about W1AW/5 in the 2002 IARU HF World
Championship to Richard King K5NA at k5na@texas.net. For more information
about the Central Texas DX & Contest Club visit http://www.ctdxcc.org/.
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University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From dave at egh.com Fri Jul 5 20:48:14 2002
From: dave@egh.com (David Clemons)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] re: W1AW/5 IARU 2002 Bulletin #3
Message-ID: <00A107E5.5D81F60C.11@egh.com>
Hi,
I didn't notice propagation predictions for W5 <-> W1 paths
(New England instead of [Old] England). Do you guys have any idea
whether we'll be able to work Texas from here during the contest?
:-)
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Sat Jul 6 02:16:01 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Computer time syncronization without using
the internet???
In-Reply-To: <20020705124825.LBPD25736.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0
.20]>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020706011049.01fdc950@pop.pacific.net.hk>
AA4LR suggested:
> >VA7NT needs to accurately set a computer's clock without resorting to
> >the Internet.
>
>Got GPS? Before you can know where you are, your GPS receiver has to
>figure out what time it is, and does so very accurately.
>
>GPS is how the NCCC beacon stations stay synchronised.
When VR2B operated from my QTH, it was a little annoying that I couldn't
see the time the GPS receiver was providing to the beacon controller.
I didn't mention before that the wristwatch approach does start with
synchronization with a Rubidium-referenced master clock at the earth station
where I work, which in turns talks to something back in NA that's pretty
darn close to UT1.
Place of employment soon to vanish, so perhaps I should host VR2B again -
I might have enough spare time on my hands then to add time display to the
controller. ;^(
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From k4ww at arrl.net Sat Jul 6 06:53:39 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Hum and stubs
References: <200207051603.g65G3f5r013440@contesting.com>
<20020705124302.A7903@w9wi.com>
Message-ID: <005b01c224d3$01a3b300$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
"Doug Smith W9WI" <w9wi@w9wi.com> wrote: "we get WSM-FM louder than we get
the computer audio."
The last time I listened to WSM, it certainly sounded better than any
computer audio I've heard! :)
C'Ya, Shelby
>From harry at oh6yf.com Sun Jul 7 03:38:09 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The WRTC Station OH6YF & Next Weeks photos
Message-ID: <004d01c22546$2f6fcdf0$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hello all!!!
It would be very nice to see all of you here in Finland during WRTC 2002!
If you are not coming here I will collect my photos to the Internet in the
address:
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
I hope we all could meet and make each other to be even better friends!!!
The next night I will be testing my station on 14185kHz. Maybe we'll meet
there...
Best 73
Harry OH6YF
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Sun Jul 7 11:40:38 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5
In-Reply-To: <MCBBJAHBAIHDJKDNKBBIKEEDCAAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
References: <143.110c2e1f.2a58cece@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020707102918.00ba09d8@pop.pdq.net>
The WRTC thing coming up next weekend .......
The prizes that are mentioned for early log turn in and for working all of
the OJ stations ..........
........... What, exactly, are these prizes ?
I'm drooling to know.
Also,
The W1AW/5 stations.......
Should they identify themselves as W5/W1AW, W1AW/W5, or is, in fact, W1AW/5
acceptable?
What meets the properly defined procedural configuration for station
identification?
If I work them using QRP, can I sign as N5RP/QRP ??
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Sun Jul 7 21:14:56 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (Timo)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5
References: <143.110c2e1f.2a58cece@aol.com>
<5.1.1.2.2.20020707102918.00ba09d8@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <018a01c225d9$d3339820$90c5f83e@tklimoff>
-----
> The WRTC thing coming up next weekend .......
>
> The prizes that are mentioned for early log turn in and for working all of
> the OJ stations ..........
> ........... What, exactly, are these prizes ?
> I'm drooling to know.
Early Bird lottery prizes are still secret :)
But check
http://www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm
how to win an award, special plaque or T-shirt!
73, Timo OH1NOA
WRTC2002 Webmaster, Competitor Correspondence
>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Mon Jul 8 15:25:07 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 - Special OJ Callsigns, A Reminder
Message-ID: <01c22672$1d855600$abc5f83e@default>
Worked All WRTC2002 - "Worked All New OJ prefixes"
Get your log in immediately after the contest and Win Valuable "Early
Bird" prizes - WRTC2002 special incentive for 6-hour log-in!
OJ1- OJ8 prefixes activated for the 1st time!
The WRTC2002 teams will be using special ?2x1? type of callsigns with special
OJ1-OJ8 prefixes (e.g. OJ1M). The OJ1-OJ8 prefixes are activated for the first
time in history to honour WRTC2002 - the Olympics of Amateur Radio contesting
in Finland.
The list of OJ callsigns is as follows:
OJ1C OJ1F OJ1M OJ1N OJ1S OJ1W OJ1X
OJ2F OJ2H OJ2J OJ2Q OJ2V OJ2Y OJ2Z
OJ3A OJ3D OJ3N OJ3R OJ3T OJ3X
OJ4A OJ4M OJ4N OJ4S OJ4W
OJ5A OJ5E OJ5M OJ5T OJ5U OJ5W OJ5Z
OJ6C OJ6E OJ6K OJ6N OJ6W OJ6X OJ6Y
OJ7A OJ7C OJ7M OJ7N OJ7S OJ7W OJ7X
OJ8A OJ8E OJ8K OJ8L OJ8N OJ8W
You can download an Excel -checklist for the contest from:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/ojcalls.xls
Worked All WRTC2002 - Rules for non-WRTC2002 stations
* The same WRTC2002 station can be worked once on CW and once on SSB on
each band.
* Each correct two-way CW or SSB QSO with a WRTC2002 station counts 1
point. A duplicate QSO on same band and mode counts 0 points.
* Score = total sum of QSO points
Logs:
Only e-mail logs (ASCII) are accepted.
The preferred log formats are Cabrillo, CT.ALL and TR.DAT.
The "Early Bird" logs should be submitted by 18.00 UTC on Sunday, July 14,
2002. Regular latest submission date is July 31, 2002.
All logs should be sent via e-mail to: logs@wrtc2002.org
NOTE: The subject field of the e-mail should contain your contest callsign,
e.g. " Subject: WRTC2002 OH2AAA"
Request for stations working the IARU 2002 contest
The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU 2002
contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002 contest
committee to be used as reference data within the official WRTC2002
log-checking procedure. The committee guarantees that these logs will be used
only for cross checking purposes of the WRTC2002 team championship.
NOTE: All e-mail logs submitted within 6 hours after the contest ends will
participate in a lottery with special WRTC2002 prizes.
Awards & Categories
The following "Worked All WRTC2002" awards will be issued based on the above
contest rules:
"Worked All WRTC2002" awards
Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op CW
Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op SSB
Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op Mixed
Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op CW
Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op SSB
Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op Mixed
Worked all WRTC2002 - IARU HQ stations
Awards will be given to the stations with highest number of points in the
following
categories:
1st 2nd 3rd
World
Europe
North America
South America
Asia
Africa
Oceania
HQ Stations
OH - Finland
Special Plaques
Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - CW
Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - SSB
Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - Mixed
Other Prizes
T-shirts (DX) Worked 130 WRTC2002 qsos
T-shirts (EU) Worked 200 WRTC2002 qsos
WRTC2002 ORGANIZING COMMITTEE (via OH1EH)
>From jaime at robles.nu Mon Jul 8 18:50:20 2002
From: jaime@robles.nu (Jaime Robles)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Home made Digital Voice Keyer and a Kenwood
Message-ID: <200207081750.24496.jaime@robles.nu>
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Hello all!
I have just finished a DVK (the K6XX one) but it does not work.
Well, i am not a good builder but i have built some kits and circuits
before... maybe i have made a mistake.
The main problem for me is that i have not used a DVK before so i don't know
about how it works...
Could anybody tell me about the connections to a kenwood rig, please? (TS-50
but i think the others have the same pinout).
On the other hand... if you know another DVK circuit and you can tell me about
the URL i will thank you.
Many thanks.
73.
- --
Un saludo,
Jaime Robles, EA4TV
jaime@robles.nu
Visita http://www.redlibre.net - La Red Libre de todos!
http://smsdx.net - El DXCluster en tu movil!
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>From Timothy.Urban at wc.ey.com Mon Jul 8 12:51:38 2002
From: Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com (Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plea for help re: headphones
Message-ID: <OF03D10011.5236C368-ON85256BF0.00555485@ey.com>
Recently bought a set of the Bose Noise Reducing headphones for contesting
based upon positive comments in the list archives.
While they do zero out a huge amount of transceiver fan noise and computer
whine, I have encountered two serious problems and am desperate for your
suggestions.
Rig = FT 1000 MK 5 + coax feed (incl. a coax rf choke and a w2du type
current balun) + wire ocfd. Runs up to 200 w rf at swr < 1.5 to 1 using
rig's built in tuner.
Problem 1: Bose headphones pick up a cw transmit (rf?) thump - slight on
the Low NR setting of the phones, huge on the High NR setting on the
phones. Added 8 turns of the headphone cable thru a snap together MFJ
torroid - didn't help. Intensity of thump varies band to band.
Reducing the power setting on the rig helps, but is not a viable
solution :).
My goal would be to be able to use the phones on the high NR
setting - it seems to provide valuable audio gain. Operating with the low
setting seems like running the rig with the attenuator on.
Problem 2: SSB: Transmitting voice on ssb with the rig's "monitor"
feature, using the stock Yaesu hand mike, creates ungodly feedback.
Thanks for any ideas - hope I don't have to give these things back
Tim
N5IIT
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>From kc1f at adelphia.net Mon Jul 8 16:14:09 2002
From: kc1f@adelphia.net (Stuart Santelmann)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 1996 T shirt ?
Message-ID: <016e01c22689$bdc87040$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Anyone have some last minute help ? I leave for WRTC 2002 in 2 hours, at
2PM EDST. I can't remember if in WRTC 1996 they had T shirts, in addition
to the cards and letter opener. I want to bring the shirt to Finland, but
can't remember if there was one, or where it is in my house, hi. I do have
the 2000 one.
TIA Stu KC1F WRTC 2002 referee
>From aa4ga at contesting.com Mon Jul 8 13:08:00 2002
From: aa4ga@contesting.com (Lee Hiers)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Radio Question
Message-ID: <3D2980A0.3079.EA6BB1@localhost>
Howdy...
I thought I might actually operate a contest for a change, and was
getting some stuff together this past weekend in anticipation of the
IARU, when I discovered my ol' reliable TS440 has apparently passed
on.
So, I'm thinking about getting another radio. My main rig is an FT-
990. My first thought is to get another 990, as I'm happy with that
rig...but they're OOP and aging. I do like that they're <1000 bucks.
What new mid-level rigs are going to work as well? - primarily
interested in how they perform for RX in a contest environment
obviously!
How about the Icom 746pro? Has anyone used this rig in a contest?
I don't really want to stretch the budget to 2000, but I could...what
other recent rigs should I consider?
Thanks,
Lee
--
Lee Hiers, AA4GA
Cornelia, Georgia
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Mon Jul 8 12:18:22 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 IARU 2002 Bulletin #4
In-Reply-To: <20020705143501.H2236@cs.utexas.edu>; from Kenneth E. Harker on
Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 02:35:02PM -0500
References: <20020619162639.D9927@cs.utexas.edu>
<20020705143501.H2236@cs.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <20020708111822.K876@cs.utexas.edu>
BULLETIN #4
8 July 2002
W1AW/5 Honor Roll Announced
Central Texas area contesters are gearing up for the 2002 IARU HF World
Championship the weekend of 13-14 July. Six area contest stations will
be signing W1AW/5, representing the United States of America as the ARRL
"Headquarters Station."
Organizers have announced that the W1AW/5 operation will create a "W1AW/5
Honor Roll" listing the callsign of every contest operation that works
W1AW/5 on all twelve band-modes, on all six CW bands, or on all six phone
bands. The Honor Roll will be featured prominently on the Central Texas
DX & Contest Club web site: http://www.ctdxcc.org/.
Those looking for the opportunity to work the W1AW portable operation
will have ample opportunity. Many stateside operators may even have better
luck on the low bands during the daylight hours, when the band is quieter
and there's less QRM. All of the W1AW/5 stations have survived the recent
heavy storms well, and were not affected by the flooding near the San
Antonio and New Braunfels areas. All systems are go, and W1AW/5 will be
on the air on all the bands and modes, for the entire twenty-four hours.
ARRL Headquarters will handle all QSL requests. QSL via W1AW: 225 Main
Street, Newington, CT 06111, USA. Please do not send QSL cards to the
W1AW/5 station owners or operators.
Please direct comments or questions about W1AW/5 in the 2002 IARU HF World
Championship to Richard King K5NA at k5na@texas.net. For more information
about the Central Texas DX & Contest Club visit http://www.ctdxcc.org/.
--
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Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From kc1f at adelphia.net Mon Jul 8 17:35:08 2002
From: kc1f@adelphia.net (Stuart Santelmann)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 1996 T shirt ?
References: <016e01c22689$bdc87040$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <018701c22695$132b90c0$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Found it ! Tnx anyway - my XYL had stored it. It's mostly white, so hard
to find...
CU in OH !
Stu KC1F
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart Santelmann" <kc1f@adelphia.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:14 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 1996 T shirt ?
> Anyone have some last minute help ? I leave for WRTC 2002 in 2 hours, at
> 2PM EDST. I can't remember if in WRTC 1996 they had T shirts, in addition
> to the cards and letter opener. I want to bring the shirt to Finland, but
> can't remember if there was one, or where it is in my house, hi. I do
have
> the 2000 one.
>
> TIA Stu KC1F WRTC 2002 referee
>
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>From dick.green at valley.net Mon Jul 8 14:51:15 2002
From: dick.green@valley.net (Dick Green)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
Message-ID: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
And the winner is...
I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m antennas
"side-by-side" and thought the results would be of interest. I've had a 40m
4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five years. Yesterday,
I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC portable guyed
military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two antennas. There was
no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units louder than the
4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB per S-unit, that
translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher would improve
these results.
I say the opportunity for such a comparison is rare because most people
replace one antenna with another rather than keeping the old one and adding
a new one. We often see claims like "this antenna is so much better than my
old antenna", when the comparison is actually made from memory of what the
old antenna was like. That's subjective at best. There's no substitute for
being able to switch back and forth under a wide variety of conditions. It's
also nice when the difference is definitive, as it was in my test.
I've been wondering about the relative merits of the 4-square and beam for
some time. A couple of years ago, someone at a YCCC meeting complained that
his 40m 4-square just couldn't keep up with the 2-el beams (can't remember
who it was.) I disputed the claim, feeling that my full-size 4-square with
60 radials per element was reasonable close in performance to a 2-el yagi.
This assertion was partly based on having done reasonably well on 40m in
contests, partly based on denial (building a 4-square is a lot of work!),
but mostly based on having misunderstood the theoretical gain numbers for a
4-square. I thought that a 4-square had about 5.5dB gain over a dipole,
roughly equivalent to a 40-2CD. In fact, the gain of a 4-square is only
5.5dB over a single vertical (monopole.) Near as I can figure it, a dipole
over real ground is about 5.5dB louder than a monopole over average ground.
That would make a 4-square about equivalent to a dipole. The 40-2CD would
therefore be at least 5.5dB louder than the 4-square, and probably more if
the 4-square efficiency isn't optimum. That explains the test results pretty
well.
Before you call me a doofus for making that mistake, go try to find the
numbers in the ARRL Antenna Handbook or in ON4UN's Low Band DXing -- the
numbers are there but you have to do a lot of flipping around and converting
of dBi to dBd, adjusting for ground, etc. A simple table comparing various
antenna designs under "typical" conditions would be nice, wouldn't it?
I got really interested in the comparison when I noticed that as my contest
scores got better by improving other antennas, my 40m QSOs always lagged the
competition. Eventually, it became clear that I was giving away too much on
40m and that I must have been wrong about the 4-square. Luckily, the used
40-2CD became available for a one-year loan just as I was pondering what to
do (the same fellow loaned me an extension kit for the AB-577/GRC that can
raise the height to 75 feet.)
Of course, a 4-square has other advantages. If the radial system is good,
the radiation angle should be lower. I'll have to check that out on some
long-haul paths. More important, the F/B of the 4-square is much better than
the 40-2CD. The 4-square has an F/B of at least 20dB, while the 40-2CD seems
to be about 5dB-15dB (hard to measure, but it's clearly not very good.) This
could be important when stateside QRM is bad. Also, the 4-square is
significantly less noisy than the 40-2CD. Finally, the 4-square can switch
directions instantly. Still, all in all, I'll take the extra forward gain! I
should get a chance to check out the 40-2CD in action this weekend in IARU.
I've always loved the "idea" of a 4-square (an antenna you can build with no
concrete and no help), and it really is an excellent compromise antenna, but
it just doesn't cut it for bands higher than 80m.
73, Dick WC1M
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Mon Jul 8 19:04:50 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [YCCC] 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <000e01c226a9$f5a428e0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Interesting. But you should really compare them over a longer period,
especially during good spring or fall propagation. In many years of
experience here a full size 4-square with only 4 radials raised about 5'
has performed better than a 40-2cd at 60' on long paths into Russia and
asia. It was sometimes as good as a 40-2cd at 120'. Now that the
40-2cd's are at 90' and 180' it is rarely as good as either one. The
main advantages I see in having both is that the f/b of the 4 square is
better so sometimes it hears better, the takeoff angle is different so
sometimes it is better on some paths, it is good for a quick switch in
direction when getting called by an LU or JA when working Europe, and it
is vertical which provides a choice of polarization(though this doesn't
seem as important as it is on 80m and 160m).
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yccc-admin@yccc.org [mailto:yccc-admin@yccc.org] On Behalf Of
Dick
> Green
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 17:51
> To: CONTEST; Tower; YCCC
> Subject: [YCCC] 4-square vs 40-2CD
>
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m
antennas
> "side-by-side" and thought the results would be of interest. I've had
a
> 40m
> 4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five years.
> Yesterday,
> I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC portable guyed
> military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two antennas.
There
> was
> no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units louder than
the
> 4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB per S-unit,
that
> translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher would
improve
> these results.
>
> I say the opportunity for such a comparison is rare because most
people
> replace one antenna with another rather than keeping the old one and
> adding
> a new one. We often see claims like "this antenna is so much better
than
> my
> old antenna", when the comparison is actually made from memory of what
the
> old antenna was like. That's subjective at best. There's no substitute
for
> being able to switch back and forth under a wide variety of
conditions.
> It's
> also nice when the difference is definitive, as it was in my test.
>
> I've been wondering about the relative merits of the 4-square and beam
for
> some time. A couple of years ago, someone at a YCCC meeting complained
> that
> his 40m 4-square just couldn't keep up with the 2-el beams (can't
remember
> who it was.) I disputed the claim, feeling that my full-size 4-square
with
> 60 radials per element was reasonable close in performance to a 2-el
yagi.
> This assertion was partly based on having done reasonably well on 40m
in
> contests, partly based on denial (building a 4-square is a lot of
work!),
> but mostly based on having misunderstood the theoretical gain numbers
for
> a
> 4-square. I thought that a 4-square had about 5.5dB gain over a
dipole,
> roughly equivalent to a 40-2CD. In fact, the gain of a 4-square is
only
> 5.5dB over a single vertical (monopole.) Near as I can figure it, a
dipole
> over real ground is about 5.5dB louder than a monopole over average
> ground.
> That would make a 4-square about equivalent to a dipole. The 40-2CD
would
> therefore be at least 5.5dB louder than the 4-square, and probably
more if
> the 4-square efficiency isn't optimum. That explains the test results
> pretty
> well.
>
> Before you call me a doofus for making that mistake, go try to find
the
> numbers in the ARRL Antenna Handbook or in ON4UN's Low Band DXing --
the
> numbers are there but you have to do a lot of flipping around and
> converting
> of dBi to dBd, adjusting for ground, etc. A simple table comparing
various
> antenna designs under "typical" conditions would be nice, wouldn't it?
>
> I got really interested in the comparison when I noticed that as my
> contest
> scores got better by improving other antennas, my 40m QSOs always
lagged
> the
> competition. Eventually, it became clear that I was giving away too
much
> on
> 40m and that I must have been wrong about the 4-square. Luckily, the
used
> 40-2CD became available for a one-year loan just as I was pondering
what
> to
> do (the same fellow loaned me an extension kit for the AB-577/GRC that
can
> raise the height to 75 feet.)
>
> Of course, a 4-square has other advantages. If the radial system is
good,
> the radiation angle should be lower. I'll have to check that out on
some
> long-haul paths. More important, the F/B of the 4-square is much
better
> than
> the 40-2CD. The 4-square has an F/B of at least 20dB, while the 40-2CD
> seems
> to be about 5dB-15dB (hard to measure, but it's clearly not very
good.)
> This
> could be important when stateside QRM is bad. Also, the 4-square is
> significantly less noisy than the 40-2CD. Finally, the 4-square can
switch
> directions instantly. Still, all in all, I'll take the extra forward
gain!
> I
> should get a chance to check out the 40-2CD in action this weekend in
> IARU.
>
> I've always loved the "idea" of a 4-square (an antenna you can build
with
> no
> concrete and no help), and it really is an excellent compromise
antenna,
> but
> it just doesn't cut it for bands higher than 80m.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
> _______________________________________________
> YCCC Reflector
> yccc@yccc.org
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/yccc
>From g3xtt at lineone.net Mon Jul 8 22:20:25 2002
From: g3xtt@lineone.net (Donald Field)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Contest
Message-ID: <028101c226bd$07a62a80$f9d2403e@field>
IOTA Contest 2002 (1200 27 July to 1200 28 July)
Just a over a couple of weeks now until this year's IOTA Contest. And,
judging by the announcemenents in the bulletins and on the reflectors, there
will be a huge ammount of island activity; plenty of multipliers for the
serious contesters, plenty of IOTA counters for the IOTA enthusiasts. It
looks like being the best IOTA Contest yet!
Most of you will have seen the write-up and results from last year (if not,
they are of course on the RSGB HF Committee Web page - www.rsgbhfcc.org ).
The main rule changes this year are in the rules regarding island
DXpeditions, the introduction of a World multi-op category (previously, only
island stations could participate multi-op) and the introduction of a
100-watt option for all entrants.
When you submit your logs, do please ensure that the cover sheet makes clear
which section and category you are entering (especially, make clear whether
12- or 24-hour, whether 100-watt or high-power and whether CW, SSB or
multimode. Otherwise you will be automatically classified as 24-hour and/or
multimode and/or high-power). Advice on how to configure the most popular
logging programs for use in the contest has been posted on the Contests
Committee Web page (see above). There were particular problems last year
with entrants who had used CT. Under some configurations, the .LOG file did
not contain the received serial number (whereas the .ALL file did). Please
check that your log contains all the necessary information. Electronic logs
are preferred, ideally to the new address of iota.logs@rsgbhfcc.org Even if
you only make a few QSOs, please send a log - all logs are entered in the
master database for checking purposes. We hope to improve the collection of
logs this year and I am especially grateful to Trey N5KO for working with us
on this, as he has previously done for both CQ and ARRL.
73 Don Field G3XTT
IOTA Contest Manager
g3xtt@lineone.net (also iotacontest@rsgbhfcc.org )
>From dl3td at t-online.de Mon Jul 8 21:52:21 2002
From: dl3td@t-online.de (Dr. Lothar Wilke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DA0HQ
Message-ID: <000301c226b0$9feffd00$039256d9@wilke>
Here is an information abt DA0HQ 2002 in IARU HF World Championship.
Band Mode QTH Frequencies
160 CW DL1AWI 1832
160 SSB DF0HQ 1842
80 CW DF0SAX 3511
80 SSB DF0HQ 3640/3780
40 CW DF0HQ 7003/7032
40 SSB DL1AWI 7050/7080
20 CW DF3CB 14032
20 SSB DJ7AA 14220/14240
15 CW DL6RAI 21032
15 SSB DF0HQ 21250
10 CW DF0HQ 28032
10 SSB DL0MGB 28480
QSL:DL5AXX
See you in the Championship!
All the best to all WRTC Teams!
73
Lothar, DL3TD/DF0HQ (ex Y24UK/Y34K)
Dr. Lothar Wilke, DL3TD
Tel.: +49 361 5612120
E-mail: dxhf@darc.de
Internet: http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/
http://www.tu-ilmenau.de/~df0hq
PR: dl3td@db0erf.#thr.deu.eu
>From TOMK5RC at aol.com Mon Jul 8 18:20:12 2002
From: TOMK5RC@aol.com (TOMK5RC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Chrome Moly Masts
Message-ID: <8d.1ac6bc8f.2a5b5c0c@aol.com>
After 12 years of selling the highest quality mast material available to the
amateur community, The Mast Man, Tom, K5RC, has sold the Productivity
Resources Mast business to Force 12. The same great masts will be available
from the finest antenna manufacturer. Contact F12 at www.force12inc.com or at
805-227-1680. A formal press release will be forthcoming.
Tom, K5RC
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>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:08 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Japan to OI2HQ IARU 2002 propagation forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DB6@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Maybe someone can forward this to a Japanese
mailing list, too.
73,
Jukka, OH6LI
- - -
Japan - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Japan - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz, QSX as announced
Hoping to work some Japanese stations at 1830-1900 UTC
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
Expecting to work Japanese stations at
1800-1900 UTC on SSB, 1830-1900 UTC on CW
because CW station is more to West.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB
40m expected to be open 1700-2000 UTC,
Peak in signals at 1800-1930 UTC
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open from contest start, 12 UTC
on 13th July to 2230 UTC and opening again at 1100 UTC
on 14th July, being open until contest end, 12 UTC on
14th July.
Peak in signals expected on 13th July from 17 UTC to 20 UTC
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m expected to be open from contest start 12 UTC to 1430 UTC
on 13th July. Opening is possible later, at 19-2030 UTC.
On 14th 15 should open at 04 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC on 14th July.
Peak in signals expected 13th July from 14 to 15 UTC and
14th Jyly from 0730 UTC to 09 UTC
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
Expecting to work Japanese stations from 12 UTC to 14 UTC
on 13th July, possibility for later opening at 20-2030 UTC,
On 14th July band may open at 08 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC.
Signal path is polar, so odd openings may occur even though
the announcd more likely hours may be worse.
73,
Jukka
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:14 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eastern NA to OI2HQ IARU 2002 Propagation Forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DB7@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Eastern North America - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Eastern North America - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz, QSX as announced
Hoping to work some Eastern NA stations at 0130-02 UTC
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
Expecting to work Eastern NA stations at
0130-02 UTC on SSB, 0130-0230 UTC on CW
because CW station is more to West.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
40m expected to be open 0000-0330 UTC,
Peak in signals 0130-0230 UTC.
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open from 2200 UTC on July 13th to
09 UTC on July 14th.
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m expected to be open from contest start 12 UTC on
July 13th to 1930 UTC.
Opening is possible later, even after 23 UTC.
On July 14th 15m opens at 1030 UTC and is open to
contest end, 12 UTC July 14th.
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
Expecting to work Eastern NA stations from contest start,
July 13th, 12 UTC to 19 UTC if Aurora is vague enough.
On July 13th, possibility for the opening to continue beyond 2200 UTC.
On July 14th band should open at 11 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC.
Signal path is polar, so odd openings may occur even though
the announcd more likely hours may be worse.
73,
Jukka
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:18 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Europe - OI2HQ IARU 2002 Propagation forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DB8@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Europe - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Europe - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz
160 should open at 1630UTC and close 0530 UTC.
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB
80m is open 13th July 1500 UTC to 14th July 0630 UTC.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB,
40m opens 13th July 14 UTC and closes 0730 UTC on 14th July.
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open full 24 hours.
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m should be open from contest start 12 UTC on
13th July to 22 UTC.
On 14th July 15m should open at 03 UTC and stay
open to contest end, 12 UTC July 14th.
If direct propagation is bad, OI2HQ encourages the European
stations to beam to NA or JA directions to access backscatter
propagation on 15.
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
10m is open from contest start, July 13th 12 UTC to 20 UTC.
On July 14th band should open at 0330 UTC and stay open to
contest end, 12 UTC.
If direct propagation is bad, OI2HQ encourages the European
stations to beam to NA or JA directions to access backscatter
propagation on 10.
73,
Jukka
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:29 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Western North America - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation
forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DBA@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Western North America - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Mid North America - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz, QSX as announced
No propagation expected
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
No propagation expected.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
40m may be possible for bigger stations to log OI2HQ
between 04 to 0430 UTC.
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open from 0030 UTC on July 13th to
0830 UTC on July 14th.
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m may be open from contest start 12 UTC on
July 13th to 1930 UTC if Aurora is vague enough.
Opening is likely later, after 23 UTC.
On July 14th 15m may open at 1130 UTC and is open to
contest end, 12 UTC July 14th.
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
Hoping to work Western NA stations from July 13th, 13 UTC
to 1730 UTC if Aurora is vague enough.
On July 14th band may open at 1130 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC.
Signal path is polar, so odd openings may occur even though
the announcd more likely hours may be worse.
A polar opening may be possible during OI2HQ nighttime,
after 23 UTC on July 13th, possibility exists until 02 UTC July 14th.
73,
Jukka
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:34 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Mid North America - OI2HQ IARU 2002 Propagation Forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DBB@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Mid North America - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Mid North America - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz, QSX as announced
No conditions expected
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
Expecting to work some Mid NA stations at
02-0230 UTC.
Signals will be weak if there is any propagation.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
40m expected to be open 02-03 UTC for big stations.
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open from 2300 UTC on July 13th to
0830 UTC on July 14th.
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m expected to be open from contest start 12 UTC on
July 13th to 1930 UTC.
Opening is possible later, even after 23 UTC.
On July 14th 15m opens at 1030 UTC and is open to
contest end, 12 UTC July 14th.
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
Expecting to work Mid NA stations from contest start,
July 13th, 12 UTC to 1730 UTC if Aurora is vague enough.
On July 14th band may open at 1130 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC.
Signal path is polar, so odd openings may occur even though
the announcd more likely hours may be worse.
73,
Jukka
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Jul 8 19:36:29 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [Towertalk] 4-square vs 40-2CD
References: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <025401c226cf$e78f2900$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Dick,
More is better in one facet of life I participate in - antennas!
I never cease to be amazed at how antennas HEAR differently...as such
current efforts at my station are to increase diversity of antennas - so to
enhance RECEIVING...
If you can keep both antennas I would recommend it...you may find that while
the 4 square always comes in second as far as RST rx from other stations it
may hear better at certain times of day and at certain combinations of
conditions....
I love the 40-2CD as anyone who has ever heard me talk about mine has been
bored to tears with, but I am also working on some phased verticals for 40
now...
Granted I am no doubt headed into the oh sh&* too many things to choose from
syndrome but all it takes is a weekend of bouncing around to reaffirm my
belief that more IS better...as they say in sport
On any given weekend!
GL
Jim, K4OJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Green" <dick.green@valley.net>
To: "CONTEST" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; "Tower"
<towertalk@contesting.com>; "YCCC" <yccc@yccc.org>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:51 PM
Subject: [Towertalk] 4-square vs 40-2CD
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m antennas
> "side-by-side" and thought the results would be of interest. I've had a
40m
> 4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five years.
Yesterday,
> I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC portable guyed
> military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two antennas. There
was
> no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units louder than the
> 4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB per S-unit, that
> translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher would improve
> these results.
>
> I say the opportunity for such a comparison is rare because most people
> replace one antenna with another rather than keeping the old one and
adding
> a new one. We often see claims like "this antenna is so much better than
my
> old antenna", when the comparison is actually made from memory of what the
> old antenna was like. That's subjective at best. There's no substitute for
> being able to switch back and forth under a wide variety of conditions.
It's
> also nice when the difference is definitive, as it was in my test.
>
> I've been wondering about the relative merits of the 4-square and beam for
> some time. A couple of years ago, someone at a YCCC meeting complained
that
> his 40m 4-square just couldn't keep up with the 2-el beams (can't remember
> who it was.) I disputed the claim, feeling that my full-size 4-square with
> 60 radials per element was reasonable close in performance to a 2-el yagi.
> This assertion was partly based on having done reasonably well on 40m in
> contests, partly based on denial (building a 4-square is a lot of work!),
> but mostly based on having misunderstood the theoretical gain numbers for
a
> 4-square. I thought that a 4-square had about 5.5dB gain over a dipole,
> roughly equivalent to a 40-2CD. In fact, the gain of a 4-square is only
> 5.5dB over a single vertical (monopole.) Near as I can figure it, a dipole
> over real ground is about 5.5dB louder than a monopole over average
ground.
> That would make a 4-square about equivalent to a dipole. The 40-2CD would
> therefore be at least 5.5dB louder than the 4-square, and probably more if
> the 4-square efficiency isn't optimum. That explains the test results
pretty
> well.
>
> Before you call me a doofus for making that mistake, go try to find the
> numbers in the ARRL Antenna Handbook or in ON4UN's Low Band DXing -- the
> numbers are there but you have to do a lot of flipping around and
converting
> of dBi to dBd, adjusting for ground, etc. A simple table comparing various
> antenna designs under "typical" conditions would be nice, wouldn't it?
>
> I got really interested in the comparison when I noticed that as my
contest
> scores got better by improving other antennas, my 40m QSOs always lagged
the
> competition. Eventually, it became clear that I was giving away too much
on
> 40m and that I must have been wrong about the 4-square. Luckily, the used
> 40-2CD became available for a one-year loan just as I was pondering what
to
> do (the same fellow loaned me an extension kit for the AB-577/GRC that can
> raise the height to 75 feet.)
>
> Of course, a 4-square has other advantages. If the radial system is good,
> the radiation angle should be lower. I'll have to check that out on some
> long-haul paths. More important, the F/B of the 4-square is much better
than
> the 40-2CD. The 4-square has an F/B of at least 20dB, while the 40-2CD
seems
> to be about 5dB-15dB (hard to measure, but it's clearly not very good.)
This
> could be important when stateside QRM is bad. Also, the 4-square is
> significantly less noisy than the 40-2CD. Finally, the 4-square can switch
> directions instantly. Still, all in all, I'll take the extra forward gain!
I
> should get a chance to check out the 40-2CD in action this weekend in
IARU.
>
> I've always loved the "idea" of a 4-square (an antenna you can build with
no
> concrete and no help), and it really is an excellent compromise antenna,
but
> it just doesn't cut it for bands higher than 80m.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
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>From paul at ei5di.com Tue Jul 9 01:52:50 2002
From: paul@ei5di.com (Paul O'Kane)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Contest - Logging Software
References: <028101c226bd$07a62a80$f9d2403e@field>
Message-ID: <001501c226da$ae26ce60$e5a5fea9@dell>
SDI (SD for IOTA) is the only contest logger dedicated to the IOTA
Contest, and has been since the contest started in 1993. As such,
it has features specific to this event not found on any other
contest logger.
SDI V9.91 is intended for single-op unassisted entries and is
FreeWare. SDICHECK, the post-contest program distributed with
SDI, has been updated to include a World Multi-Op entry category
on the Summary Sheet.
SDI is a DOS program, but it runs in all versions of Windows -
please review the README.1ST file for more information.
SDI may be downloaded from http://www.ei5di.com/sd/sdi991.zip (327
kb).
73,
Paul EI5DI
http://www.ei5di.com
>From w8aef at worldnet.att.net Mon Jul 8 22:48:59 2002
From: w8aef@worldnet.att.net (Paul Playford)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
References: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <000201c226ea$5d32ac80$38f4fea9@paulplay>
Great report Dick. I am of the same opinion, the only way to compare
antennas is to be able to switch between them.
At one time I had a Hygain antenna that consisted of two linearly loaded
elements on 40 and 3 full size elements on 20. It's been a long time but
I think it may have been a 402BA or something like that. My observations
were similar to yours on both gain and f/b on 40 but a real performer on 20.
So poor on 40 that I gave it away when I obtained my first 204BA.
An observation I made a couple of years ago is that yagi height is very
important, just like the books say but we never believe (big antennas, high
in the sky, work better than little antennas down low). It was during
Sweepstakes that I noticed my tribander at 30 feet was outperforming my
monoband yagi's at 70-78-86 feet. And in excess of 10 dB. I even checked
them with an analyzer! As an afterthought I cranked the tower down and when
all the antennas were at about the same height they performed equally well.
I have concluded that on 20-15-10 if you want to talk to someone less that
2500 miles away about 30 feet heighth works best, and if further than 2500
miles then the higher antennas work best.
So I will be anxiously watching for your report from the IARU.
My 4 squares have elevated radials and I have a feeling that they are
between a 2 element and a 3 element yagi.
Your IARU report may be the impetus I need to put my other 72 foot tower up
with a 40 meter yagi on it.
de Paul, W8AEF
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Green" <dick.green@valley.net>
To: "CONTEST" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; "Tower"
<towertalk@contesting.com>; "YCCC" <yccc@yccc.org>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:51 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m antennas
>From richard at karlquist.com Mon Jul 8 21:01:57 2002
From: richard@karlquist.com (Richard Karlquist)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [Towertalk] 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <MGEKKFGEAIKJOOPJPGIKAEPHCJAA.richard@karlquist.com>
I'll believe your test, but a better
test is a simple dipole against a simple
vertical. That way, implementation
problems of the 4-square and Yagi don't
confuse the results.
This must vary with location. At my QTH,
before building my 7 element vertical
array, I A/B'ed a simple vertical against
a 90 foot high inverted vee. Within the
resolution I could get switching back
and forth, these were interchangeable for
me. Maybe the dipole really is 2 dB better,
and I just can't measure to that resolution.
I haven't tried it, but wouldn't be surprised
if a dipole did start to get a substantial
advantage at a really high height, like 140+
feet.
>From all the positive press than 90 foot
high beams on 40m get, I expected much
more than I got with my vee at 90 feet.
(Note: proper precautions were taken
to avoid mutual coupling effects between
antennas).
Rick Karlquist N6RK
richard@karlquist.com
www.n6rk.com
www.karlquist.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dick Green
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 AM
> To: CONTEST; Tower; YCCC
> Subject: [Towertalk] 4-square vs 40-2CD
>
>
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very
> different 40m antennas
> "side-by-side" and thought the results would be of
> interest. I've had a 40m
> 4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five
> years. Yesterday,
> I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC
> portable guyed
> military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two
> antennas. There was
> no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units
> louder than the
> 4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB
> per S-unit, that
> translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher
> would improve
> these results.
>
>
>From n5ia at zia-connection.com Mon Jul 8 21:11:55 2002
From: n5ia@zia-connection.com (Milt Jensen at N5IA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
References: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <003301c226f6$65b58380$6427140a@2gHz.Screamer.aznex.net>
Keep 'em both, Dick. There are never enough antennas! You will find the
4-Square extremely advantageous in the heat of battle and it will perform
better than the 2 element directional about 30% of the time.
The 4-Square we used at XZ0A in January, 2000 was elevated with 12 radials
on each element and the performance was tremendous. Same for the 80 Meter
4-Square and the single element 160 Meter Groundplane.
Good luck with your endeavors.
Milt, N5IA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Green" <dick.green@valley.net>
To: "CONTEST" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; "Tower"
<towertalk@contesting.com>; "YCCC" <yccc@yccc.org>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m antennas
> "side-by-side" and thought the results would be of interest. I've had a
40m
> 4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five years.
Yesterday,
> I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC portable guyed
> military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two antennas. There
was
> no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units louder than the
> 4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB per S-unit, that
> translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher would improve
> these results.
>
> I say the opportunity for such a comparison is rare because most people
> replace one antenna with another rather than keeping the old one and
adding
> a new one. We often see claims like "this antenna is so much better than
my
> old antenna", when the comparison is actually made from memory of what the
> old antenna was like. That's subjective at best. There's no substitute for
> being able to switch back and forth under a wide variety of conditions.
It's
> also nice when the difference is definitive, as it was in my test.
>
> I've been wondering about the relative merits of the 4-square and beam for
> some time. A couple of years ago, someone at a YCCC meeting complained
that
> his 40m 4-square just couldn't keep up with the 2-el beams (can't remember
> who it was.) I disputed the claim, feeling that my full-size 4-square with
> 60 radials per element was reasonable close in performance to a 2-el yagi.
> This assertion was partly based on having done reasonably well on 40m in
> contests, partly based on denial (building a 4-square is a lot of work!),
> but mostly based on having misunderstood the theoretical gain numbers for
a
> 4-square. I thought that a 4-square had about 5.5dB gain over a dipole,
> roughly equivalent to a 40-2CD. In fact, the gain of a 4-square is only
> 5.5dB over a single vertical (monopole.) Near as I can figure it, a dipole
> over real ground is about 5.5dB louder than a monopole over average
ground.
> That would make a 4-square about equivalent to a dipole. The 40-2CD would
> therefore be at least 5.5dB louder than the 4-square, and probably more if
> the 4-square efficiency isn't optimum. That explains the test results
pretty
> well.
>
> Before you call me a doofus for making that mistake, go try to find the
> numbers in the ARRL Antenna Handbook or in ON4UN's Low Band DXing -- the
> numbers are there but you have to do a lot of flipping around and
converting
> of dBi to dBd, adjusting for ground, etc. A simple table comparing various
> antenna designs under "typical" conditions would be nice, wouldn't it?
>
> I got really interested in the comparison when I noticed that as my
contest
> scores got better by improving other antennas, my 40m QSOs always lagged
the
> competition. Eventually, it became clear that I was giving away too much
on
> 40m and that I must have been wrong about the 4-square. Luckily, the used
> 40-2CD became available for a one-year loan just as I was pondering what
to
> do (the same fellow loaned me an extension kit for the AB-577/GRC that can
> raise the height to 75 feet.)
>
> Of course, a 4-square has other advantages. If the radial system is good,
> the radiation angle should be lower. I'll have to check that out on some
> long-haul paths. More important, the F/B of the 4-square is much better
than
> the 40-2CD. The 4-square has an F/B of at least 20dB, while the 40-2CD
seems
> to be about 5dB-15dB (hard to measure, but it's clearly not very good.)
This
> could be important when stateside QRM is bad. Also, the 4-square is
> significantly less noisy than the 40-2CD. Finally, the 4-square can switch
> directions instantly. Still, all in all, I'll take the extra forward gain!
I
> should get a chance to check out the 40-2CD in action this weekend in
IARU.
>
> I've always loved the "idea" of a 4-square (an antenna you can build with
no
> concrete and no help), and it really is an excellent compromise antenna,
but
> it just doesn't cut it for bands higher than 80m.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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>From ve3pn at igs.net Tue Jul 9 06:49:56 2002
From: ve3pn@igs.net (Peter Barron)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #244 - 11 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200207090114.g691Es5r013130@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000101c2270c$75041d90$98f4a8c0@HOMEOFFICE>
Hi Jamie
If you need Kenwood connector pin outs a good location is at
http://ftp.kenwood.net/Amateur/Connectors/?plain
Peter Barron
Ve3pn@igs.net
From: Jaime Robles <jaime@robles.nu>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Home made Digital Voice Keyer and a Kenwood
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Hello all!
I have just finished a DVK (the K6XX one) but it does not work.
Well, i am not a good builder but i have built some kits and circuits
before... maybe i have made a mistake.
The main problem for me is that i have not used a DVK before so i don't know
about how it works...
Could anybody tell me about the connections to a kenwood rig, please? (TS-50
but i think the others have the same pinout).
On the other hand... if you know another DVK circuit and you can tell me
about
the URL i will thank you.
Many thanks.
73.
- --
Un saludo,
Jaime Robles, EA4TV
jaime@robles.nu
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http://smsdx.net - El DXCluster en tu movil!
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>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Tue Jul 9 12:44:25 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (Timo)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OJ Calls Checklist for WRTC2002
Message-ID: <00a901c22724$d7249500$a6c5f83e@tklimoff>
WRTC2002 OJ calls check list is available in Excel (XLS)-format:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/ojcalls.xls
Roland, DK3GI has made this list in PDF-format available in BCC homepage:
http://www.bavarian-contest-club.de/contest/OJ_Checkliste.pdf
73, Timo OH1NOA
>From nt5c at texas.net Tue Jul 9 08:15:03 2002
From: nt5c@texas.net (John Warren)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <000201c226ea$5d32ac80$38f4fea9@paulplay>
References: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
<000201c226ea$5d32ac80$38f4fea9@paulplay>
Message-ID: <p04330108b9508c0b51dd@EIM-Mac-1.0.7>
Paul W8AEF wrote:
>My 4 squares have elevated radials and I have a feeling that they are
>between a 2 element and a 3 element yagi.
In theory, a 4-square is sort of equivalent to a vertically polarized
3-el Yagi. The two corner verticals driven in parallel are a
"distributed" driven element. The other two verticals are a director
and reflector respectively. Obviously that's subject to all the usual
disclaimers about how well the 4-square is made, especially how good
the "ground" is under each element.
Most articles I've read agree with Paul. The end result of a well
implemented 4-square seems usually to be just a bit better for DX
than a 2-el Yagi. So on 40M I'll stick with my much-loved 40-2CD, but
on 80/160....!!
John, NT5C.
>From k7qq at netzero.net Tue Jul 9 15:09:59 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5
References: <143.110c2e1f.2a58cece@aol.com>
<5.1.1.2.2.20020707102918.00ba09d8@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <000901c22752$86d06100$86272a42@k7qq>
W1AW meets all the requirements. /5 for those old enuf to rember when
there was a requirement.
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob, N5RP" <N5RP@pdq.net>
To: "TDXS Reflector" <tdxs-list@moonbounce.n5iq.org>;
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 15:40
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5
> The WRTC thing coming up next weekend .......
>
> The prizes that are mentioned for early log turn in and for working all of
> the OJ stations ..........
> ........... What, exactly, are these prizes ?
> I'm drooling to know.
>
> Also,
> The W1AW/5 stations.......
> Should they identify themselves as W5/W1AW, W1AW/W5, or is, in fact,
W1AW/5
> acceptable?
>
> What meets the properly defined procedural configuration for station
> identification?
>
> If I work them using QRP, can I sign as N5RP/QRP ??
> Bob Perring
> ...........................................
> Amateur Radio Station N5RP
> mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
> N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 9 10:46:50 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 09Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207091646.g69GkoV02066@localhost.localdomain>
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 9 10:49:06 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RSGB Jubilee - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207091649.g69Gn6x02078@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RSGB Jubilee - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 6, 2002
E-mail logs to: hf.contests@rsgb.org.uk
Mail logs to:
RSGB HF Contests Committee
c/o SV Knowles, G3UFY
77 Bensham Manor Road
Thornton, Heath
Surrey CR7 7AF
UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SCW HP
N2ED 78 12 2 3,900 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SMixed HP
GQ6YB 2209 83 24 916,735 Bristol CG
MQ5ZAP 2171 62 24 673,010
G4FAL 999 32 159,840
XM4VV 892 33 21 146,850
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SSSB LP
CQ1CV(@CS6ARP) 567 55 12 155,925 Radio Clube Costa Ve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)CW HP
GQ3TXF(G3TXF) 1405 62 20 429,970
K6III 67 19 8 100 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)Mixed HP
LY4AA(@LY7A) 597 80 20 238,800
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 300 23 3 33,925
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)Mixed LP
GQ4IIY(G4IIY) 616 22 9 67,760
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)SSB HP
VE7AVV 102 17 8 1,734 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOCW HP
9H1ZA 1885 75 706,875
GQ4ZVJ(G4ZVJ) 1202 65 24 390,650
G3LET 1190 63 23 374,850 HARC
GW3NJW 1152 51 21 293,760
GM4SID 848 45 20 190,800
N4BP 316 51 14 80,580 FCG
GQ5LP(G5LP) 450 23 5 51,750 Mid Beds Contest Ass
K2SX 120 27 16,200 YCCC
SP5WA 124 21 22 13,020
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOCW LP
XM3IAY(VE3IAY) 168 25 21,000
RW3VZ 133 26 17,290
HB9ARF 150 20 15,000
AB2E 66 17 4 5,610 FRC
VE9DX 75 12 1 4,500
VA3XRZ 26 6 2 780
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOMixed HP
XM3EJ(VE3EJ) 1771 91 24 801,225
TI5/N0KE(@TI5KD) 225 44 10 49,500 Grand Mesa
SP9W(SP9HWN) 245 33 40,425
W4SAA 138 34 23,430 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOMixed LP
VE3MQW 224 34 38,080
ZC40DW(G0DEZ) 558 13 7 36,270 Eastern Sovereign Ba
LY2XW 224 30 33,600
K4OGG 143 20 13,800
GQ0DVJ(G0DVJ) 180 7 5 6,300
VO1TA(VO1WET) 386 8 6 1,930
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB HP
GS2MP(GM3WOJ) 1392 62 20 431,520 North of Scotland CG
GW0GEI 1044 48 15 250,560 Contest Cymru
XM3KZ(VE3KZ) 1021 42 214,200
GQ4BLE(GW4BLE) 711 39 138,645 Contest Cambria
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB LP
ZC40BS(G4KIV) 376 22 6 41,360
MQ5RIC(M5RIC) 409 8 16,360
9M2RPN(VK2CZ) 79 7 3 2,660
SV1XV 32 6 3 960
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB QRP
N3GXY 23 4 1 460
Operators:
CQ1CV CT1ERK,CT1ETE
GQ6YB G0HFX,G0WKW,G3TKF,G3XSV,G4FKA,G7ORR,M0AXF/EI3JE,
M0XXX
MQ5ZAP 5B4WN,M0TTT,M5ZAP
XM4VV VE4VV,VE4XT
>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Tue Jul 9 23:09:26 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Realtime scoreboard
Message-ID: <20020709190926.YAKP4192.fep02-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.108]>
World Top Contesters air new OJ prefixes from Helsinki, Finland, Saturday 13th
at 12:00 UTC in the World Radiosport Team Championship 2002 ( WRTC2002 )
http://www.wrtc2002.org
Look for an advanced web based scoreboard live at:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/realtime.htm
(available 12:00 UTC 13.7.02 - 12:00 UTC 14.7.02).
Submit your Early Bird log in 6-hours from the end of the contest to qualify
for attractive prices:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm
WRTC2002 Organization
>From N5RP at pdq.net Tue Jul 9 20:35:46 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AEA CK-2 Keyers for sale
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020709193245.00b433d0@pop.pdq.net>
I have two of them.
Both in very good physical condition and all functions operate.
On one of them the #3 push button "sometimes" is hard to engage to make
contact.
Power cubes and manual for each.
Figure they are better served to go to a contest station.
$50.00 each, shipping costs to the account of the buyer.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From k8cc at comcast.net Tue Jul 9 22:45:00 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020709212132.009bc940@mail.comcast.net>
Dick,
Thanks for sharing your observations on your 40M four-square vs. a
40-2CD. My only caveat is to keep in mind that the comparison you make
during the summer will not always jibe with the same comparison in
winter. Radiation angles tend to be higher in the summer which would favor
the low yagi over the verticals. Your observation about the gain of a
four-square being 6 dB *over a vertical* which makes it about even with a
dipole over ground is absolutely correct. However, its not the entire story.
We've been using a wire four-square on 80M here at K8CC since 1994. We've
had just about every kind of 80M DX antenna here at this location: slopers,
delta loops, bobtails, half-squares, a 3L wire yagi and even a beautiful
N4ZC-style log periodic with the center at 110' and the ends at 90'. It's
my opinion (and shared by my guest operators) that none of these antennas
match the four-square, at least on 80M when you're limited to 120' supports.
That is not to say that the others were bad antennas. The simple little
half-square made UN2L's "loud LP 80M signals" list one year. The wire yagi
and N4ZC log periodic made lots of gain and were great pileup
crashers. But until we put up the four-square we couldn't hear down to the
weak layer of EU necessary to be able to run successfully on CW from
W8. Once we put up the four-square, the results were immediately noticable
on our 80M line score, and our 80M op was a lot happier too.
Again, I agree with your observation that verticals (and hence,
four-squares) don't radiate as much signal as a dipole over ground. I've
often found, particularly on 75 SSB that with the four-square we can hear
more DX stations than we can work. With northern Europeans particularly,
I'll call and call a perfectly copiable SM or OH and not even get a QRZ?
from them. My gut says if I could run about four or five KW output the
transmit signal from the four-square would match the ability to
receive. However, my conscience won't let me do that...
A couple of years ago K3LR (who has a great 80M four-square made from
Hy-Towers) decided to try some big horizontal antennas like a W2PV 2L quad
and a 3L linear-loaded yagi. Perhaps he'd like to share his observations
here on the reflector, but neither antenna replaced his four-square.
Finally, the answer for 80M might be different than for 40M...
73,
Dave/K8CC
>From harry at oh6yf.com Wed Jul 10 06:31:13 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC guests are already in Finland! Photos...
References: <200207091646.g69GkoV02066@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <000e01c227b9$dcc20110$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hi!
I have put some more photos to my WRTC photo gallery at:
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
73 de Harry OH6YF
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
>From jjreisert at alum.mit.edu Wed Jul 10 08:34:58 2002
From: jjreisert@alum.mit.edu (Jim Reisert AD1C)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Short 'Power Naps' Found Best Performance Booster
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020710073448.0171e378@mail.attbi.com>
Mon Jul 8, 2:46 PM ET
By Nic Rowan
ADELAIDE, Australia (Reuters Health) - A 10-minute nap is better than a
half-hour snooze at improving work performance, according to new Australian
sleep research.
Associate Professor Leon Lack and postgraduate student Amber Tietzel
studied the effect of varying nap lengths in the School of Psychology Sleep
Laboratory at Flinders University in Adelaide. They conclude that 10
minutes is the most effective nap length for improving performance for up
to 3 hours afterward.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020708/hl_nm/sleep_work_dc_1
--
Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863
USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
>From marco.spalluzzi at orobiacom.it Wed Jul 10 16:45:14 2002
From: marco.spalluzzi@orobiacom.it (Marco Spalluzzi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AC noise
Message-ID: <001101c22818$05940cb0$6ac8a8c0@MARCOSPALLUZZI>
Hi guys, I've got a problem, probably related to ground connections.
When I tx and my amp switches on tx, I hear a little ac noise in the
headphones, but it's not only there, it really goes out.
An US guy said it's little, but you can hear it if one listen carefully.
It's not a gnd problem of the headphones (Heil HC-4), since it's the same
with a desk microphone.
If the amp is on, but I disconnect the relay switch (so it doesn't switch to
tx), the noise disappears.
I replace the relay cable with another one (2 cables + shield), with one
cable connected to the cable shield.
Grounding this or not, nothing changes.
I grounded it through the gnd connector on the back panel of the 775.
Grounding it to the amp, or any other device, could change something? I
think no, ground is ground for everyone.
I made some "disconnect and try" tests, first with unused antennas (it's not
an rf problem, and in fact it didn't help), then with some computer cables,
pc ground, rotator cable, power supply ac cable, ... but I didn't solve it.
Should I connect "signal gnd" to "shield gnd" on each cable?
Or, if connected together, should I separate them?
I really don't know what else disconnect.
Could it be due by an excessive mic gain or compressor gain, or both?
Pse answers here on the reflector, or private to ik2xsl@amsat.org
Thanks in advance, bye Marco - IK2XSL.
>From tony.kaz at verizon.net Wed Jul 10 13:09:14 2002
From: tony.kaz@verizon.net (N2TK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AC noise
In-Reply-To: <001101c22818$05940cb0$6ac8a8c0@MARCOSPALLUZZI>
Message-ID: <000601c2282c$23546240$6401a8c0@tony>
I had some ac reported on my signal on a dxpedition. It didn't happen on all
bands. If I removed the MFJ voice keyer it went away. I isolated the mike
ground from the ac and chassis ground to solve the problem.
Tony
N2TK
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Marco Spalluzzi
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 09:45
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AC noise
Hi guys, I've got a problem, probably related to ground connections.
When I tx and my amp switches on tx, I hear a little ac noise in the
headphones, but it's not only there, it really goes out.
An US guy said it's little, but you can hear it if one listen carefully.
It's not a gnd problem of the headphones (Heil HC-4), since it's the same
with a desk microphone.
If the amp is on, but I disconnect the relay switch (so it doesn't switch to
tx), the noise disappears.
I replace the relay cable with another one (2 cables + shield), with one
cable connected to the cable shield.
Grounding this or not, nothing changes.
I grounded it through the gnd connector on the back panel of the 775.
Grounding it to the amp, or any other device, could change something? I
think no, ground is ground for everyone.
I made some "disconnect and try" tests, first with unused antennas (it's not
an rf problem, and in fact it didn't help), then with some computer cables,
pc ground, rotator cable, power supply ac cable, ... but I didn't solve it.
Should I connect "signal gnd" to "shield gnd" on each cable?
Or, if connected together, should I separate them?
I really don't know what else disconnect.
Could it be due by an excessive mic gain or compressor gain, or both?
Pse answers here on the reflector, or private to ik2xsl@amsat.org
Thanks in advance, bye Marco - IK2XSL.
_______________________________________________
CQ-Contest mailing list
CQ-Contest@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Thu Jul 11 18:08:09 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] On the Bus with WRTC - #1 - 10 July 2002
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020711210809.011d9074@pop.vnet.net>
This is amazing! The number of people and calls and faces showing up
from all over the world -
some familiar from the log and some familiar from face-to-face meetings
past - boggles the
mind. It's like Saturday at 0000Z in the flesh.
My wife Nancy and I arrived yesterday on the 9th, shuttled flawlessly to
the WRTC hotel
headquarters by the efficient OH committee members led by Marje OH1RX.
There is nothing more
welcome after a long flight to a new land than a smiling face holding a
sign with 'WRTC' on it.
We had hardly set foot to ground before being greeted by OH2BH and
company. A milling company
of previous arrivals milled about the lobby and patio of the Radisson
SAS Espoo - WRTC nerve
center for the next week.
The big attraction on opening day is, of course, the beer tent where you
are suddenly
surrounded by a WAZ of friends. There are stories to tell,
congratulations to be made, and
pictures to be taken. Already present was Team Africa, Chris ZS6EZ and
Bernie ZS4TX, holding
their own with a running commentary of humourous observations.
Contesters from Zone 38 need a
certain amount of humor to keep going in the sport.
Also present are the "separated at birth" twins Trey N5KO and Juan
Carlos TG9AJR. If you've
never met this pair, you'd be amazed to learn that they are not
brothers. Trey, of course, is
well known from his many contest wins and the big presence from HC8N and
other Zone 10 calls.
A particularly loquacious trio is Wayne N7NG, Ohms PY5EG, and Walter
DL6QT. Here in a few
square feet is a troika of many years of contesting experiences and
adventures. You can ask
these guys anything - as in anything - and you will learn something
interesting.
The long, long, extra long daylight at 62N kept anyone from feeling the
late hours after their
long journeys. Suddenly, even though the sky said "mid-evening", our
watches said "1 AM" and
the jet lag started making itself felt. It was time to try out our
sleep masks and grab a few
winks.
The 10th found us working down the pileups at the breakfast buffet and
ready for the first of
our preparatory meetings. Appropriately for hams, this meeting was held
in the Dipoli
building. All of the competitors and referees were treated to an
overview of the competition
organization and rules, the basics of our stations, and a new element -
the WRTC Real-Time
Scoreboard.
The scoreboard is an idea that was finally realizable after the three
previous WRTC
competitions. Every hour, the referees will report the team's score to
a central server, using
Finland's legendary GSM mobile phone system. Nokia is a major sponsor
of WRTC-2002 and has
contibuted a number of interesting technologies to make the event both a
success and up-to-date
with the latest in communications.
The score information from each team will be posted to a Web page (see
www.wrtc2002.org for the
link to the page) for people around the world to watch. You will be
able to see simultaneously
the score and ranking of each team starting one hour after the start of
the competition at
1200Z on Saturday.
By the photographs you can see how seriously all of the participants are
taking WRTC and how
much work that the OH committee has done to make the competition a
success. After 90 minutes
of explanation about the competition, OH5JQ presented a fine video about
Finland and Finns.
They're very proud of their country and culture.
After lunch, we're all piled on buses, where I'm writing this. Headed
for Himos and SRAL (the
Finnish national radio society) Summer Camp, we're enjoying a cold soda
pop and the scenery as
we drive north from Helsinki through Lahti and the lake country.
Martti, OH2BH, has done a
good job of explaining the Finnish psyche - which has a lot to do with
three months of little
sun in the winter.
As a humorous interlude, a songbook of parodies of Beatle's song were
prepared by several of us
before WRTC. On the way to Lahti, we had a sing-along of songs like
"Martti Laine" (to the tune
of "Penny Lane") and "When I'm 64" rewritten by K1DG in honor of Jim
Neiger, N6TJ, who is
celebrating his 63rd birthday during the festivities.
All in good fun, of course. So far, there has been a little bit of ham
radio and a lot of
meeting and greeting. Tomorrow things begin to get a little more
serious with training of
referees and detailed review of rules by the competitors. On Friday, we
draw the referee
assignments and pick our secret callsigns - to be opened only minutes
before the competition.
Very quickly, it will be time to begin - as the hours pass, there is a
little more tension and
sharpness in the contester's demeanor. These are, after all, the very
best competitors in the
world getting ready for one of the best contests.
So for today - a toast from the bus on the way to Himos...Kiipis!
(Cheers!)
73, Ward N0AX/OH
>From k4ro at k4ro.net Thu Jul 11 23:39:58 2002
From: k4ro@k4ro.net (K4RO Kirk Pickering)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] On the Bus with WRTC - #1 - 10 July 2002
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020711210809.011d9074@pop.vnet.net>; from
btippett@alum.mit.edu on Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 05:08:09PM -0400
References: <1.5.4.32.20020711210809.011d9074@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <20020711223958.E20896@darkstar.k4ro.net>
Fabulous report from the front. How I wish I was there with you
all. Best of luck to all of the competitors. See you ops on the
air this weekend. 73 from Tennessee. (Thunderstorm-ridden zone 8)
-Kirk K4RO
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 05:08:09PM -0400, W4ZV Bill Tippett wrote:
> This is amazing! The number of people and calls and faces showing up
> from all over the world...
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 12 07:59:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 12Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207121359.g6CDxCB04884@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 12Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
VE5RI 527 1214 41 40 24 818,424
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
VE7AVV 0 809 0 40 15 198,960 BCDX Club
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
K4BAI 181 22 0 0 27,632 SECC
K1GU 118 0 28 0 4 24,920 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE5SF 416 562 39 39 18 579,696
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VA6RA 1 180 1 24 39,050
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VA3WN 142 50 13 10 6 26,542
W0ETT 100 2 25 1 7 21,632 Grand Mesa
W1TO 67 12 15 5 12,680 YCCC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
N4WSM 0 29 0 13 4,550 TCG
W4NZ 32 3 9 2 3,300
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
VE3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 56 41 6 9 12 9,870
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 12 08:00:45 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL June VHF - Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207121400.g6CE0jq04898@localhost.localdomain>
2002 ARRL June VHF - Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 10, 2002
E-mail logs to: JuneVHF@arrl.org
Mail logs to:
June VHF
ARRL
225 Main St.
Newington, CT 06111
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Limited Multi-Op HP
W3SO 997 264 332,904 PVRC
K8CC 663 211 29 169,644 MRRC
NI9E(@N9FH) 692 180 28 124,560 Badger Contesters
K5TR 426 156 78,000
VE6JW 292 120 30 36,360 Aurora VHF Society
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Limited Multi-Op LP
KB1DFB(@KB1H) 502 108 63,936 Eastern Connecticut
VE2ZP 141 67 12 12,194 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
N0UK 623 274 236,188 Northern Lights Radi
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Rover LP
K4EFD 54 38 15 5,358
K7VE/R 61 35 2,660
KI5DR/R 40 20 14 1,300 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op HP
K1TEO 1053 293 28 481,339
K3DNE 669 217 235,445
WB9Z 685 262 30 223,486
W2FU 477 230 23 206,540 Rochester VHF Group
K7RAT(N6TR) 452 153 25 80,325 Boring Amateur Radio
K5AM 364 165 62,205
K3ZO 436 125 22 54,500 PVRC
VE5UF 271 108 20 29,268
N5RZ 197 91 21 17,927
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op LP
N9DG 323 142 59,498 Badger Contesters
N6MU(@N6NB) 488 82 27 47,724 SCCC
W5SXD 169 103 24 21,424
N4GN 168 95 12 15,960 KCG
K8MR 151 81 6 15,795 MRRC
WD5K 186 77 14,322 NTCC
N8BJQ 159 83 12 13,197 SWODXA
VE3CVG 95 51 20 6,630
N7IR 104 46 26 6,164
K0UK 84 48 18 4,032 Grand Mesa
N2YEV 96 31 28 3,627
NL7CO 119 29 20 3,451
W8RU 54 36 4 2,232 MRRC
K5WPN 65 24 8 1,560
K6RIM 57 14 2 798 NCCC
K1VU 26 11 297 YCCC
N4WSM 11 7 84 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op QRP
N6ZZ 96 48 4 4,608
W6RCL 65 25 5 1,750
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op Port LP
W8CAR 42 29 5 1,218 MRRC
AE0Q 38 14 532 Grand Mesa
AB0MV 37 14 518 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op Port QRP
K9PW 510 189 31 145,908 SMC
W9GKA 111 55 24 7,865
N0JK 27 23 14 621
Operators:
K5TR K5TR,WM5R
K7VE/R K7VE,KD7PRN
K8CC K8CC,K9TM,WX3M
KB1DFB KB1DFB,KE1LI,N1XS
NI9E N9FH,N9LLT,N9VA,NI9E,W9GA
VE2ZP VA2ADB,VE2ZP
VE6JW VE6JW,VE6JY,VE6LDX,VE6MAA,WA2TMC
W3SO AI3M,K3IXD,W3PAW,W3TEF,W3YOZ,WR3Z
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 12 08:03:15 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU FD, CW - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207121403.g6CE3Fj04915@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU FD, CW - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: (see your national society rules)
E-mail logs to: (see your national society rules)
Mail logs to:
(see your national society rules)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Open HP
S55A/P 1296 206 881,062 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Open LP
DK0WT/P(DK2GZ) 910 168 528,192
S58U/P 928 145 24 463,275
DL0KD/P 633 136 24 291,720 RR DX
DF0BK/P 667 120 24 274,440
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Restricted LP
GM3POI/P 1152 159 24 631,866 Orkney ARC
DL0UP/P 925 170 24 540,770 L11
G0RGH/P 535 0 24 2,268 Harwich Amateur Radi
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Fixed HP
F5IN 724 126 323,064 U.F.T.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Fixed LP
LY1DS 258 55 3 51,590 Lithuanian DX
YL2PN 100 30 3 393 Latvian CC
S52MY 5 21 1 105
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Open HP
VE3XAX 354 76 19 89,224 U-VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Open LP
S51JM/P 170 67 9 40,401
Operators:
DF0BK/P DL4SDW,DL4SDX,DL5SEJ,DL8SCG
DL0KD/P DJ5CU,DL1EKC,DL2EBH
DL0UP/P DL1EFD,DL1EFO
G0RGH/P G0DVJ,G0SCP,G3ZQU,G4AQZ,G4EYE,G4FTP,G4WHK,M0CGE
GM3POI/P G3MXJ,GM3POI
S55A/P S53Z,S55A,S56A,S57AD,S57NWT,S57RW,S57UKE,S58O,
S59KW
S58U/P S51VA,S51VI,S53AU,S57LO,S57RR,S59AV
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 12 11:23:55 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FCC Wants Your Input
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020712142355.011ed77c@pop.vnet.net>
Here's a copy of a message I put on the DX List:
"While on the subject of the new 5 MHz and 137 kHz bands, ARRL
summarized the FCC's NPRM here:
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2002/05/15/100/
In particular, note the following:
"The FCC has proposed letting amateurs
operate at full legal limit on
a new 5 MHz allocation, but it left
open for further discussion
whether to restrict the band to Amateur
Extra Class licensees or make
it available to General and higher
class licensees. The FCC also
invited further comment on whether the
band should be broken
down into mode-specific subbands. The
ARRL had proposed opening the entire band
to RTTY, data (including CW), phone and
image emission types."
The FCC's NPRM is here:
http://www.arrl.org/announce/regulatory/et02-98/
with the specific paragraphs regarding these issues here:
39. It appears that amateur radio operators should be able to avoid
interference to primary operations in this band due to the
limited numbers of primary assignments[92] which are authorized for
operation in the 5250-5400 kHz band, and their
experience in sharing HF frequencies in other bands. The operational
protocol of "listen before transmit" employed by amateur
radio operators should further minimize interference. We note that currently
this technique is not explicitly required by our Rules
and we request comment on whether it should be explicitly stated in the
Rules in order to protect the primary operators in the
5250-5400 kHz band. We propose to limit the output power of the amateur
stations to 1500 W PEP as requested by ARRL.
Further, we invite comments as to whether the 5250-5400 kHz band should be
restricted to Amateur radio operators with an
Amateur Extra Class license to better ensure compatible sharing with the
Federal Government operations, or could the band
also be made available to operators with a General or Advanced Class license
just as in the 10,100-10,150 kHz band (30
meter band). [93] We invite comment on whether the power limit and operator
license requirement are sufficient to prevent
interference to primary users, and whether an EIRP limit would also be
appropriate for this frequency band. We also invite
comment on other means that will reduce potential interference.
40. The 5000 kHz Petition does not discuss sub-banding and ARRL's suggested
rules would allow all emission types to use
the entire band.[94] We note that several commenters suggest that
sub-banding would be useful. We further note that Section
97.305 of our Rules segregates digital modes from other amateur station
emission modes in the 3500 kHz and 7000 kHz bands
to protect narrow band emissions like data from wider emissions like
single-side band voice.[95] We request comment on
whether sub-banding is necessary and/or appropriate for the 5000 kHz band as
well.
I personally believe sub-banding should be done with a simple
demarcation between narrowband (CW, digital) and wideband (phone,
image) just as we have on every other HF band except 160 meters. On
160, I've personally experienced numerous problems with inter-modal
interference over the past 18 years, and that is whay I was a
co-sponsor of RM-10352 which proposed a simple demarcation of 1840 and
below for narrowband modes only.
If you want to submit comments to the FCC, it is VERY simple
to do. Just go to this site:
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi
enter only 02-98 in Box 1, fill out the other "required" boxes
(2,3,7,8,9,10 and 12), and submit your comments either as an attached
file (using the first form in Adobe PDF, MS Word, MS Excel,
WordPerfect, ASCII or Lotus 123) or, more simply, just type your
comments in the bottom Brief Comment form. After you submit,
a confirmation screen will appear and you click "Finish Transaction
and Receive Confirmation". A final confirmation screen should appear
with your name and a confirmation number if all is accepted correctly.
In summary, the FCC's questions about 5 MHz are:
1. Power limit of 1500 watts OK?
2. Amateur Extra or General and above?
3. Is sub-banding necessary and appropriate? If you feel
it is, you might want to suggest a dividing line such as 5250-5300
for narrowband only (CW, digital).
I feel ARRL generally represents our interests well, but the
FCC has made it very simple for all of us to make comments directly.
If you feel you want to make your voice heard, take a few minutes to
do so now before the comment window closes July 29. If we don't,
we have nobody (including ARRL) to blame but ourselves.
73, Bill W4ZV
P.S. If any of you have problems with the FCC site, E-mail me
directly and I'll be happy to help."
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 12 11:50:05 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
Message-ID: <017301c229bb$cc4c97b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Hello everyone. I am going crazy here. I have looked and double-looked at
posts about submitting early-bird logs for the WRTC/IARU, and at the WRTC
web site, and nowhere can I find an email address to send the early-bird log
to. I am assuming it is different from where you submit your official
contest entries and also from the WRTC submission address, since the
instructions say:
"The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU
2002 contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002
contest committee...."
Can someone straighten me out? Thanks.
Mark, N5OT
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 12 18:42:11 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020712164211.011c9394@pop.vnet.net>
N5OT wrote:
>nowhere can I find an email address to send the early-bird log to.
http://www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm
Logs:
Only e-mail logs (ASCII) are accepted.
The preferred log formats are Cabrillo, CT.ALL and TR.DAT.
The "Early Bird" logs should be submitted by 18.00 UTC on Sunday, July 14,
2002. Regular latest submission date is July 31, 2002.
All logs should be sent via e-mail to: logs@wrtc2002.org
NOTE: The subject field of the e-mail should contain your contest callsign,
e.g. " Subject: WRTC2002 OH2AAA"
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n2mg at eham.net Fri Jul 12 16:03:26 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
Message-ID: <200207121803.g6CI3P5r019617@contesting.com>
I've been looking at the same thing and if I understand it right...
It seems the confusion stems from that fact that participating in the
WRTC as a non-WRTCer (for, say, the worked all WRTC) and participating
in IARU are really two different things. Concurrent but not equivalent?
For WRTC-related prizes one needs to submit by 31-Jul (or by 18.00 UTC
on Sunday, July 14, 2002 for EARLY BIRD)
and for the above, email to: logs@wrtc2002.org
For IARU itself,
http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2002/rules-iaru.html
> > 10.1. Entries must be postmarked or emailed no later than 30 days
> > after the end of the contest (August 13, 2002). No late entries can
> > be accepted. Entries that are received after mid-October 2002, even
> > if mailed in time, may not be received in time to be included in
> > the official results.
And here's another address:
> > 10.2.5. Entries sent as attachments to email must be sent to
IARUHF@iaru.org.
Same logs....two email addresses...
Right?
73 Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by Mark Beckwith <swca@swbell.net> on Fri, 12
Jul 2002 10:50:05 -0500.
> Hello everyone. I am going crazy here. I have looked and double-looked at
> posts about submitting early-bird logs for the WRTC/IARU, and at the WRTC
> web site, and nowhere can I find an email address to send the early-bird log
> to. I am assuming it is different from where you submit your official
> contest entries and also from the WRTC submission address, since the
> instructions say:
>
> "The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU
> 2002 contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002
> contest committee...."
>
> Can someone straighten me out? Thanks.
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
>From ua3ap at mail.ru Fri Jul 12 23:31:31 2002
From: ua3ap@mail.ru (Sergei Kulyov)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 - Special OJ Callsigns, A Reminder
In-Reply-To: <01c22672$1d855600$abc5f83e@default>
Message-ID: <E17T5CV-000Evg-00@f13.mail.ru>
Hello to everybody. The latest news from the WRTC2002 tell about 54 stations on
the air. The Excell spreadsheet gives only 52.
What are two extra calls?
Thanks and GL in WRTC2002!
73, Sergei - UA3AP
-----Original Message-----
From: "Ari Korhonen" <ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi>
To: <wrtc2002@ne.nal.go.jp>, "Editors"
<editors@n4gn.com>,<cq-contest@contesting.com>, "CCF" <ccf@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 - Special OJ Callsigns, A Reminder
>
>
> Worked All WRTC2002 - "Worked All New OJ prefixes"
>
> Get your log in immediately after the contest and Win Valuable "Early
> Bird" prizes - WRTC2002 special incentive for 6-hour log-in!
>
> OJ1- OJ8 prefixes activated for the 1st time!
>
> The WRTC2002 teams will be using special 2x1 type of callsigns with special
OJ1-OJ8 prefixes (e.g. OJ1M). The OJ1-OJ8 prefixes are activated for the first
time in history to honour WRTC2002 - the Olympics of Amateur Radio contesting
in Finland.
>
> The list of OJ callsigns is as follows:
> OJ1C OJ1F OJ1M OJ1N OJ1S OJ1W OJ1X
> OJ2F OJ2H OJ2J OJ2Q OJ2V OJ2Y OJ2Z
> OJ3A OJ3D OJ3N OJ3R OJ3T OJ3X
> OJ4A OJ4M OJ4N OJ4S OJ4W
> OJ5A OJ5E OJ5M OJ5T OJ5U OJ5W OJ5Z
> OJ6C OJ6E OJ6K OJ6N OJ6W OJ6X OJ6Y
> OJ7A OJ7C OJ7M OJ7N OJ7S OJ7W OJ7X
> OJ8A OJ8E OJ8K OJ8L OJ8N OJ8W
>
> You can download an Excel -checklist for the contest from:
> http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/ojcalls.xls
>
>
> Worked All WRTC2002 - Rules for non-WRTC2002 stations
>
> * The same WRTC2002 station can be worked once on CW and once on SSB on
> each band.
> * Each correct two-way CW or SSB QSO with a WRTC2002 station counts 1
> point. A duplicate QSO on same band and mode counts 0 points.
> * Score = total sum of QSO points
> Logs:
> Only e-mail logs (ASCII) are accepted.
> The preferred log formats are Cabrillo, CT.ALL and TR.DAT.
> The "Early Bird" logs should be submitted by 18.00 UTC on Sunday, July 14,
> 2002. Regular latest submission date is July 31, 2002.
> All logs should be sent via e-mail to: logs@wrtc2002.org
> NOTE: The subject field of the e-mail should contain your contest callsign,
> e.g. " Subject: WRTC2002 OH2AAA"
>
> Request for stations working the IARU 2002 contest
> The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU 2002
contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002 contest
committee to be used as reference data within the official WRTC2002
log-checking procedure. The committee guarantees that these logs will be used
only for cross checking purposes of the WRTC2002 team championship.
>
> NOTE: All e-mail logs submitted within 6 hours after the contest ends will
participate in a lottery with special WRTC2002 prizes.
>
> Awards & Categories
> The following "Worked All WRTC2002" awards will be issued based on the above
contest rules:
> "Worked All WRTC2002" awards
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op CW
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op SSB
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op Mixed
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op CW
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op SSB
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op Mixed
> Worked all WRTC2002 - IARU HQ stations
>
> Awards will be given to the stations with highest number of points in the
following
> categories:
> 1st 2nd 3rd
> World
> Europe
> North America
> South America
> Asia
> Africa
> Oceania
> HQ Stations
> OH - Finland
> Special Plaques
> Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - CW
> Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - SSB
> Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - Mixed
>
> Other Prizes
> T-shirts (DX) Worked 130 WRTC2002 qsos
> T-shirts (EU) Worked 200 WRTC2002 qsos
>
>
> WRTC2002 ORGANIZING COMMITTEE (via OH1EH)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Fri Jul 12 15:51:11 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
References: <200207121803.g6CI3P5r019617@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <3D2F251F.911F8F2@gte.net>
"Mike Gilmer, N2MG" wrote:
> It seems the confusion stems from that fact that participating in the
> WRTC as a non-WRTCer (for, say, the worked all WRTC) and participating
> in IARU are really two different things. Concurrent but not
> equivalent?
The "early-bird" logs sent to logs@wrtc2002.org are used to check the
WRTC competitors logs (and for WRTC prizes/awards)
The logs sent to IARUHF@iaru.org
is the "official" log submission address (like always) where they are
checked and eventually published in QST.
> Same logs....two email addresses...
If you want to submit your log for WRTC log-checking and the WRTC
prizes/awards ... Yes.
If you don't, then to IARUHF@iaru.org only.
Ron
>From n2mg at eham.net Fri Jul 12 17:00:58 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 - Special OJ Callsigns, A Reminder
Message-ID: <200207121900.g6CJ0v5r020335@contesting.com>
N0AX mentioned "54 nearly identical stations" - perhaps either a
mistake, or there are 2 spares.
52 is the right number - it's consistent with the list of calls on the
site, the team/referee page and the spreadsheet.
Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by "Sergei Kulyov" <ua3ap@mail.ru> on Fri, 12
Jul 2002 22:31:31 +0400.
> Hello to everybody. The latest news from the WRTC2002 tell about 54 stations
> on
> the air. The Excell spreadsheet gives only 52.
> What are two extra calls?
>
> Thanks and GL in WRTC2002!
>
>From ah3c at frii.com Fri Jul 12 14:57:27 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AH3C EMERGENCY !!!
References: <01c22672$1d855600$abc5f83e@default>
Message-ID: <005101c229de$5aaf1f60$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Please get a hold of Peter H Grillo( AH3C) at the WRTC 2002 and advise him
to call his daughter Liz at (916)734-2994 Pediatric ICU Room #5. His
grandson Josh had an emergency appendectimy...three days after his
appendics burts. It is touch and go.
Tks, Ah3c xyl, Judy
>From n2nl at yahoo.com Fri Jul 12 14:16:38 2002
From: n2nl@yahoo.com (David Mueller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WRTC2002 0726] AH3C EMERGENCY !!!
In-Reply-To: <005101c229de$5aaf1f60$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <20020712201638.6465.qmail@web21405.mail.yahoo.com>
Pete has been notified.....
73, Dave OH\N2NL
--- AH3C <ah3c@frii.com> wrote:
> Please get a hold of Peter H Grillo( AH3C) at the
> WRTC 2002 and advise him
> to call his daughter Liz at (916)734-2994 Pediatric
> ICU Room #5. His
> grandson Josh had an emergency appendectimy...three
> days after his
> appendics burts. It is touch and go.
> Tks, Ah3c xyl, Judy
>
>
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>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Sat Jul 13 01:38:37 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
Message-ID: <20020712213837.HVSX20539.fep06-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.110]>
IARU contest itself and WRTC2002 are two different things.
If you want to send your log for IARU contest, use IARUHF@iaru.org.
For WRTC2002 Early Bird prizes + log checking email is:
logs@wrtc2002.org . We will use these logs for checking the WRTC2002
competitors logs only and they will not be forwarded to ARRL.
73 Timo OH1NOA/2
WRTC2002 HQ, Espoo
PS: If you want to know which team has which referee/host, check now our web
site http://www.wrtc2002.org > Online news.
>
> L?hett?j?: "Mike Gilmer, N2MG"<n2mg@eham.net>
> P?iv?ys: 2002/07/12 pe PM 09:03:26 GMT+03:00
> Vastaanottaja: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Kopio: Mark Beckwith <swca@swbell.net>
> Aihe: Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
>
> I've been looking at the same thing and if I understand it right...
>
> It seems the confusion stems from that fact that participating in the
> WRTC as a non-WRTCer (for, say, the worked all WRTC) and participating
> in IARU are really two different things. Concurrent but not equivalent?
>
> For WRTC-related prizes one needs to submit by 31-Jul (or by 18.00 UTC
> on Sunday, July 14, 2002 for EARLY BIRD)
>
> and for the above, email to: logs@wrtc2002.org
>
>
> For IARU itself,
>
> http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2002/rules-iaru.html
>
> > > 10.1. Entries must be postmarked or emailed no later than 30 days
> > > after the end of the contest (August 13, 2002). No late entries can
> > > be accepted. Entries that are received after mid-October 2002, even
> > > if mailed in time, may not be received in time to be included in
> > > the official results.
>
> And here's another address:
>
> > > 10.2.5. Entries sent as attachments to email must be sent to
> IARUHF@iaru.org.
>
> Same logs....two email addresses...
>
> Right?
>
> 73 Mike N2MG
>
>
> The following message was sent by Mark Beckwith <swca@swbell.net> on Fri, 12
> Jul 2002 10:50:05 -0500.
>
> > Hello everyone. I am going crazy here. I have looked and double-looked at
> > posts about submitting early-bird logs for the WRTC/IARU, and at the WRTC
> > web site, and nowhere can I find an email address to send the early-bird log
> > to. I am assuming it is different from where you submit your official
> > contest entries and also from the WRTC submission address, since the
> > instructions say:
> >
> > "The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU
> > 2002 contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002
> > contest committee...."
> >
> > Can someone straighten me out? Thanks.
> >
> > Mark, N5OT
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From ww3s at zoominternet.net Fri Jul 12 18:43:53 2002
From: ww3s@zoominternet.net (Jamie WW3S)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 160m during IARU?
Message-ID: <00b301c229ed$37d09640$6501a8c0@zoominternet.net>
Is there much activity on topband during IARU? Trying to determine if its
worth the effort to get the inv l back up for what may only be a few
mults.....
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 12 18:11:42 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Thanks...?
Message-ID: <01e001c229f1$1de15900$0100a8c0@TL01>
All who responded are assuming that Early-Bird entries go to the same place
as regular entries. Every response quoted the rules, which I quoted in my
original email as well.
IMO this is not clear, since IMO the rules only tell you where to send your
actual regular entries, and clearly state that, *in addition to this,* you
"also" send your log within 6 hours "to the...contest committee," but, IMO,
give no address for the contest committee, unless it coincidentally happens
to *also* be the regular log submission address. That's an assumption.
Whatever. I don't need to debate the fine points of rules clarity. I'll
just send mine where everyone else is sending theirs.
Thanks for clearing that up...?! See you on the air.
Mark, N5OT
>From mjwetzel at comcast.net Fri Jul 12 18:49:28 2002
From: mjwetzel@comcast.net (Mike Wetzel)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 160m during IARU?
In-Reply-To: <00b301c229ed$37d09640$6501a8c0@zoominternet.net>
Message-ID: <NCBBIPEKMKEIENBFHFHJKEHGFEAA.mjwetzel@comcast.net>
Jamie,
Yes, there will probably be only a few mults but that's a few more than none
on 160!
I assume people will try on the hour!
Mike W9RE
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Jamie WW3S
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 4:44 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] 160m during IARU?
>
>
> Is there much activity on topband during IARU? Trying to determine if its
> worth the effort to get the inv l back up for what may only be a few
> mults.....
>
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>From harry at oh6yf.com Sat Jul 13 05:39:48 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New WRTC Photos now online!
References: <4.2.0.58.20020709212132.009bc940@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000a01c22a0e$2d1c3fd0$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hi all!
My new WRTC photos are now online at
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
73 de Harry OH6YF
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
>From dennis.mcalpine at verizon.net Fri Jul 12 22:59:14 2002
From: dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net (Dennis McAlpine)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
Message-ID: <000001c22a11$87cf0fe0$b69ffea9@oemcomputer>
My friend N2UN, who lives in an antenna deprived part of NYC, has successfully
managed to put up an R-7000 vertical antenna at his office. He is talking to a
Kachina at his office from his apartment via the phone lines and using some
x-10 devices to turn the power on and off.
Now like any good contester, Tony is trying how to use this remotely activated
station in a contest. His question is how do you use the Kachina operating
software at thesame time as a contest logging program, e.g. WriteLog, CT, NA,
etc. Has anyone had any experience with this probem and how did you do it?
Thanks for the help. It mayget another station on the air for us all to work.
73,
Dennis, K2SX
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>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Sat Jul 13 10:24:36 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 and "early bird" logs
Message-ID: <01c22a35$f5c8b540$LocalHost@default>
The IARU World HF Championship is right around the corner, within which
WRTC2002 is run (13-14th July).
Just a quick reminder to everyone that the WRTC2002 organizing committee
would like as many participants as possible to e-mail their contest logs
by 1800 UTC on July 14. These "early bird" logs will be used only for
log checking purposes related to the WRTC2002 teams.
Please use the following email address: logs@wrtc2002.org
There are incentives for doing this, please visit
www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm for the details.
Ari, OH1EH
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sat Jul 13 12:15:15 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The day of opening ceremonies and WRTC2002 Dinner
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020713101515.01209830@pop.vnet.net>
Ward, N0AX reports:
On the Bus with WRTC - #2 - 11 July 2002
Yesterday was a fun day - introductions, bus rides, cold beer (there's a
heat wave in Finland this week), and great food.
Now we are seeing the serious side of the competition.
Starting after dinner on Wednesday, both the competitors and referees had
the first of a series of meetings to review the
rules of the game. All of the competitors want to make the most of every
technique available to them, but none want to
be disqualified or appear dishonest. Similarly, the referees want to know
exactly how to interpret the rules and what to
do in case of a perceived infraction.
There are a LOT of detailed, knowledgable questions from both. For example,
the question arose, "In the 10-minute
QRT period before the contest, can the competitors be listening to the
bands?" (The rules are posted on the WRTC
Web site, www.wrtc2002.org.) This might seem a small thing, but it would
allow the team to prepare a "band map" of
multipliers (ITU zones or HQ stations). They could then start the contest
with enough knowledge to put several
multipliers in the log that may not be available later. All teams should be
allowed to listen during the QRT period or all
should be equally forbidden to do so. It was decided that listening was
forbidden until the starting bell rings at 1200Z.
The participants are seasoned contesters - both those operating the
stations and those charged with monitoring rule
enforcement. These people are clever and motivated to do their best. It is
in the interest of the sport to have clear rules
and fair enforcement, so a lot of time is spent in the days before the
contest judging these unobvious cases. In a
"spinoff" effect, the questions being raised and answered at WRTC can also
be applied in many cases to regular
contesting. By having the top competitors meet at one place, as with WRTC,
the exchange of views and decisions can
happen in minutes, instead of across contest seasons.
A new feature of WRTC that has raised some interesting issues this year is
the Real-Time Scoreboard. (check the
WRTC2002 Web site for details) For the first time, the competitor's claimed
scores will be available to the general
public (and contest participants) world-wide DURING THE CONTEST via a Web
page. The referees are charged with
using the Finnish GSM mobile phone system to send a short text message once
an hour with the team score. The SMS
(Short Messaging Service) is used to transmit the information, which is
delivered automatically to a computer. The
score is then retrieved from the message and added to the on-line data
base, where it is posted as a large bar chart for
viewing. It will be updated on the Web every 30 seconds, with most score
changes occuring within a few minutes of the
top of the hour.
This is truly groundbreaking! The first tiny steps toward real-time
visibility of a contest are taking place. This will
expose many more amateurs to the dynamics of contesting, as well as members
of the general public that may take an
interest in this strange Radiosport business.
Real-time score availability does have the ability to affect the way the
contest happens, of course. Radiosport is unique
in that members of the amateur radio public are expected, indeed required,
to participate in order for the contest to be a
success. It's as if a golf tournament gallery were required to catch the
ball and throw it back onto the fairway a few feet.
While improved visibility is definitely a good thing, there are also
potential negative consequences. For example, if one
team is lagging and their countrymen are able to identify them by their
voices or other nuances of their operation, they
might be motivated to "help out" by encouraging other local hams to get on
and contact that team. There are other
similar concerns. The organizing committee evaluated these concerns and
decided that the potential for negative
effects was greatly outweighed by the positive benefits visibility would
bring. In addition, it was felt that there were
factors that would affect the competition much more strongly--weather,
propagation, and general operator skill.
Therefore, the real-time scoreboard remains. Be sure to check it out!
Did I mention weather in that last sentence? Finns are feeling
uncomfortable this week because daily high temperatures
are hitting nearly 30 degrees, even up-country in the lake district of
Himos and Jamsa where we are before heading to
our host's stations. This is uncommonly hot for Finland, also known as
Suomi. While it makes for some sweaty brows
on people from cool climates, I don't think it is bothering the Texans,
Italians, South Africans, or Argentines. Yet, we
have some thunderstorms moving through the area tonight and tomorrow and
then for the contest weekend, things
should be a bit cooler and clearer.
The Opening Ceremony was quite the show, under a very large Big Tent over
more than 50 meters in diameter. All of
the competitors filed inside as for the Olympics, grouped by countries and
wearing their WRTC shirts. The teams
completely encircled the audience, serenaded by a fine jazz group. "The
Saints Come Marching In" started off the
parade, believe it or not, earning a laugh from the crowd that rapidly
turned to applause as their favorites appeared.
Tonight we have the more formal WRTC Opening Dinner with a speech from the
Contest Club of Finland's (CCF)
president and other dignitaries and members of the previous WRTC
committees. The brainchild of Danny Eskenazi
K7SS has certainly grown up to stand on its own two feet at the ripe old
age of 12.
I expect the late night schmoozing and conversations to QRT a little early
tonight (although the sky might still be
bright) for all of the operators and those who will supervise them to get
caught up on sleep and dispell the final
smidgens of jet lag. Tomorrow brings one final set of meetings and then on
to the host stations! The WRTC2002 has
done a marvelous job in setting up 54 nearly identical stations, all
checked out and ready for operation. But who could
rest easy, having come all this way, with so much on the line?
The clock is ticking in Finland...Kiipis! (Cheers!)
73, Ward N0AX/OH
PS - Don't forget to send in a log within 6 hours of the contest to
participate in the WRTC-sponsored raffle. There are
also special prizes for working as many of the OJ competitor callsigns as
possible. Check www.wrtc2002.org for details.
>From nn4t at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 13 09:12:55 2002
From: nn4t@bellsouth.net (Steve Daniel)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ft1000mp and computer interface
Message-ID: <016001c22a6f$0170c7a0$c273d6d1@nn4t>
I can't seem to get my 1000mp to communicate with the computer. I recall
reading that something in the radio needed to be altered from the factory
default so that band info, etc., can be transferred from the radio to
WriteLog, NA, etc. Anyone happen to know if this is correct? Thanks! Steve,
NN4T.
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sat Jul 13 14:25:43 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Realtime scores
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020713122543.0120dc04@pop.vnet.net>
Wow! Is this cool or what! PP5JR/PY1KN off to a huge lead
after the first hour...almost so huge I wonder if there was
a mistake!
http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/tilanne.pl?hpng=WRTC
73, Bill W4ZV
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sat Jul 13 14:53:09 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] On the Bus with WRTC - #3 - 12 July 2002
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020713125309.011d4a9c@pop.vnet.net>
Ward, N0AX reports:
Well, here I am back on the bus to Helsinki after a fast-paced couple of
days at the Himos resort with all the other
WRTC participants. We are a little bit tired--some are dozing against the
windows--but I think that mostly we are all
anxious to get to our host's stations and get started. The contest is now
about 24 hours away.
I am a referee for the team of UA2FZ and RW3WR who will be operating from
the home of OH2BAH, about 50 km
northwest of Helsinki. I have never met any of those gentlemen before.
Except for many contest QSOs, of course. The
plan is for all of us to meet back at the hotel, drive to the host station,
set up and then return to Helsinki. We will then
return the next morning and complete the preparations.
All of the WRTC stations have the same antennas--a triband beam for 20-10
meters with 2 elements on each band and
a Windom antenna for 40-80. The organizers have done a great job of getting
52 similar operating sites ready. They
have installed antennas in addition to whatever the host may have already.
Some of the hosts have substantial
stations--just as in previous WRTC's--but we will be unable to take
advantage of the "Big Aluminum".
This is one of the interesting elements of the competition. Most of the
competitors have done the bulk of their
operating at top of the line stations or from rare QTH's. Now they get to
operate with most of the hardware- or
callsign-related advantages removed.
How many will remember what it is like to operate with 100 watts and low
antennas? We will see on Sunday night.
There has been a lot of discussion about the propagation we can expect and
whether the "home field advantage" will
tip the scales in favor of the Russian or Finnish teams. So far, solar
conditions look good, but the lack of deep darkness
makes the low bands a big question to most teams.
This may be an advantage for regional competitors. Since my team is from
UA2 (between ES and SP) and Moscow, I
will be watching with great interest to see if they can take advantage of
their experience. By the way, along with the
WRTC participants, Himos is also home to the SRAL Summer Camp, which is
roughly equivalent to an extended
hamfest where hams come and camp out for many days. Between the hotel and
lake there are rows of campers and
trailers, with wire antennas or verticals extending up and out into the trees.
Every cabin is either full of our WRTC group or with OH hams for the Summer
Camp. Several have trailers loaded
with the same cross section of interesting equipment and--would you believe
it--junk we find at US hamfests. I suspect
as we are leaving on Friday, our places are rapidly filling with Summer
Camp inhabitants. Let me describe Himos a little
bit. North of Helsinki, the flat landscape begins to roll a little bit and
then breaks into hills of a few hundred meters.
Lakes are everywhere and Himos is between a couple of the larger hills on
the shore of a large lake. If you are looking
for Himos on a map, it may be difficult to find. Try looking for Jamsa,
about 200 km directly north of Helsinki.
Himos is about 10 km northeast of Jamsa. The resort accomodates a few
hundred in cabins, tents, and mobiles. The
forest and grass are deep green and not dried out in mid-summer at all. The
lake water is clean and moderately cool,
ideal for swimming and there are nearly always one or two Finns taking a
dip. You can also see some sauna inhabitants
strolling outside to the water, cooling off, and returning to the heat.
Some fish, some stroll, and in our case, some enjoy
each other's company. The final activity this morning, before lunch and
breaking camp, was the selection of team
callsigns and the introduction of the referees and hosts to the teams. This
is always the most dramatic moment before
the contest as the referees receive a sealed envelope containing the
special callsign, not to be opened until 10 minutes
before the contest begins. Each team captain was called to the front of the
watching audience.
He selected an envelope from a long line laid out at the feet of the chief
referee, Roger Western G3SXW. The referee
and host for the team were then announced and all three met for the first
time in front of all of us. At the conclusion of
52 separate envelope selections, the competition is set. Everyone knows the
who and where and when. My next
installment will come after the contest is all over. I will be monitoring
each QSO of my team--all 24 hours worth. No
sleeping for the referee! We will meet back at the hotel and start the
delicate process of executing "Howdjadoo?" See
you then! Kiipis!
Harry, OH6YF has now more photos from SRAL Summercamp, check
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com/
>From nn4t at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 13 10:29:41 2002
From: nn4t@bellsouth.net (Steve Daniel)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: ft1000mp and computer interface
Message-ID: <018c01c22a79$babc30a0$c273d6d1@nn4t>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Daniel" <nn4t@bellsouth.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 8:12 AM
Subject: ft1000mp and computer interface
> I can't seem to get my 1000mp to communicate with the computer. I recall
> reading that something in the radio needed to be altered from the factory
> default so that band info, etc., can be transferred from the radio to
> WriteLog, NA, etc. Anyone happen to know if this is correct? Thanks!
Steve,
> NN4T.
>
>From sm2ekm at telia.com Sat Jul 13 19:20:02 2002
From: sm2ekm@telia.com (Jan Erik Holm)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Realtime scores
References: <1.5.4.32.20020713122543.0120dc04@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <3D305332.3050204@telia.com>
Yes this is super neat! Too bad these guys are so close
to me cuz they are very hard to work on the high bands,
100W and tribander at 50ft doesn?t create any backscatter
signal to brag about, maybe I can work some on 80/40
tonight.
73 SM2EKM
PS: PP5JR/PY1KN is all academic now, now the old super
op?s are in the lead.
-------------------------------------------------------
Bill Tippett wrote:
>Wow! Is this cool or what! PP5JR/PY1KN off to a huge lead
>after the first hour...almost so huge I wonder if there was
>a mistake!
>
>http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/tilanne.pl?hpng=WRTC
>
>73, Bill W4ZV
>
>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Sat Jul 13 17:22:41 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Realtime scoreboard - A Reminder
Message-ID: <01c22a70$5df2eb60$LocalHost@default>
Hi guys,
Just a reminder
Look for advanced web based scoreboard live at:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/realtime.htm
(available 12:00 UTC 13.7.02 - 12:00 UTC 14.7.02).
Ari, OH1EH
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Sat Jul 13 21:19:18 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] are you guys following this on the web!
Message-ID: <000e01c22acc$18829060$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
At the half way point the competition for the top seeds seems to continue to
contain the same three teams....
At 0000Z DL2CC and DL6FBL are one half a percent ahead of N5TJ and K1TO with
RA3AUU and RV1AW in third...
TVI/RFI forced me to QRT and go home so I have been following the web
coverage of the event....
These three teams have pretty much been together in the top three for most
of the contest so far...
The long in the tooth team of N6TJ and N6AA is hanging in there with the
"kids" at 5th currently....
Lots to look at - undoubtedly some beautiful graphs will come out of this
information...very very cool.....
If you haven't gone there yet - go to:
http://wrtc.jouni.net/WRTC/
the bar graph is awesome - not how many of these stations are so closely
grouped together!
EXCELLENT WORK FINNS!
73,
Jim, K4OJ (OJ on the end)
>From w9wi at w9wi.com Sat Jul 13 21:53:10 2002
From: w9wi@w9wi.com (Doug Smith W9WI)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Unsportsmanlike Conduct
Message-ID: <20020713205310.A4767@w9wi.com>
I'm sure most of us have encountered something we'd call cheating as we
contest. What I observed this evening was the most blatant example I've
ever experienced.
0059z on 14077.3. I'm CQing, running Europeans and W's.
LZ7H calls, about S2. I send him "5NN 8". He gets out "R 5N..", then..
"CQ TEST LZ7T LZ7T LZ7T LZ7T..." (I didn't count how many times he signed
but it was at least five) S8-S9.
I send "LZ7T QRX LZ7H NR ?". And LZ7T jams him again.
After three tries I finally hear LZ7H well enough to verify he's sending the
same zone the computer is suggesting. I log the QSO and send "TU W9WI
TEST".
And never hear from LZ7T again. (i.e., he was jamming LZ7H, not me)
If I were LZ7H I would have probably would have QSYd to 11 meters where
people are better-behaved. Unfortunately I have no quick way of recording
signals during a contest, or a recording would already be on the way to
Newington.
I'm curious, did anyone else who worked LZ7H notice similar behavior?
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com
>From w2up at mindspring.com Sun Jul 14 14:28:39 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
Message-ID: <3D317C87.22504.47D9C0C@localhost>
I sent my log to logs@wrtc2002.org, but didn't get any kind of
confirmation. Should I have?
Barry--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From k7qq at netzero.net Sun Jul 14 15:47:17 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
References: <3D317C87.22504.47D9C0C@localhost>
Message-ID: <00a001c22b45$5bc26700$35252a42@k7qq>
Quacks's
I don't think they are send confirmations, I sent my logs with about 5 hrs.
to go. Maybe I'll get a REAL early bird award. It was my Bed time.
I didn't get a confirm from them!!!!
Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 13:28
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
> I sent my log to logs@wrtc2002.org, but didn't get any kind of
> confirmation. Should I have?
> Barry--
> Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>
>
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>From aluscre at neo.rr.com Sun Jul 14 12:16:43 2002
From: aluscre@neo.rr.com (aluscre)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC- OJ Calls/Teams List
Message-ID: <200207141516.g6EFG5r19956@clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com>
I might be missing something but has the list matching the teams with
the teams posted yet?
I saw the scores but assumed OJ calls list would appear immediately
following end of contest..
--
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K8ZT
Stow, Ohio
|--------------------------|
Visit My Website at
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|--------------------------|
>From n2mg at eham.net Sun Jul 14 12:45:04 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [TRLog] IARU LOG Bounced
References: <4.1.20020714101437.00993980@pop.southwind.net>
Message-ID: <002201c22b66$97590f50$24749541@delllaptopmfg>
I don't think there's anything for the league to fix. They (always?) list
the results (and issue awards?) based on ARRL section. I think the line
ARRL-SECTION: <YOURSECTIONHERE>
needs to be entered into the Cabrillo file. Even if the contest makes no
use of it (as in the ARRL 10M), the ARRL uses the section for the results.
73 Mike N2MG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lappin - W?UY" <lappint@southwind.net>
To: <trlog@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 8:18 AM
Subject: [TRLog] IARU LOG Bounced
> ARRL ROBOT bounced my Cabrillo log. The message said "no valid ARRL
> section specified". I assume they'll fix that. Any one else experience
> the problem? Also got the too many multipliers enables during POST. I
too
> skipped the process.
>
>
>
> 73
> Tom
> W?UY
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>From ve5sf at sk.sympatico.ca Sun Jul 14 11:00:10 2002
From: ve5sf@sk.sympatico.ca (Sam Ferris)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC early logs .... OOOPS
Message-ID: <003901c22b4f$88a0b740$f7dea58e@samugmtpxl8tq0>
Hope somebody is watching this list over there in OH land. Sent in my early
log but found that the old CT 9.64 version only put the CW contacts in the
cabrillo log for some reason. Have sent a revised log already using a later
version (9.70), but wonder if they were prepared for botched logs and revisions
....
Sam
VE5SF
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>From ka0vxk at arrl.net Sun Jul 14 12:05:46 2002
From: ka0vxk@arrl.net (Bill Duffy)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Query
Message-ID: <000b01c22b50$50e295c0$1e01a8c0@omhaw1.ne.home.com>
Greetings All:
This was my first IARU contest. Very enjoyable.
I have a scoring question.
When I QSO'd with different HQ stations, I entered 59xxx(appropriate rpt) in
my log. Sometimes the section also came up automatically. Is it permissable
to go back and put the section #'s in that did not show up because of the
59xxx report? Or do I interpret the rules correctly in that HQ stations only
count as one point?
I realize this is a VERY BASIC question and will appreciate any answers.
Tnx es 73
Bill KA0VXK
ps : If you're cranky from being up 24 plus hours, don't answer for a couple
of days. hi hi CUL
>From n2mg at eham.net Sun Jul 14 13:05:25 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC- OJ Calls/Teams List
References: <200207141516.g6EFG5r19956@clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com>
Message-ID: <004d01c22b69$69f77260$24749541@delllaptopmfg>
I'd hope they'd wait until after the early-bird logs are submitted (and
scores processed) to - prevent mischief!
Mike N2MG
----- Original Message -----
From: "aluscre" <aluscre@neo.rr.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 8:16 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC- OJ Calls/Teams List
> I might be missing something but has the list matching the teams with
> the teams posted yet?
> I saw the scores but assumed OJ calls list would appear immediately
> following end of contest..
>
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>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Sun Jul 14 22:57:16 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
Message-ID: <20020714185716.MTVO20539.fep06-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.109]>
There will be no confirmation.
Too big job to do manually in the middle of log checking process.
Thanks for those 900+ "early bird" logs !
73 Timo OH1NOA
>
> L?hett?j?: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
> P?iv?ys: 2002/07/14 su PM 05:47:17 GMT+03:00
> Vastaanottaja: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Aihe: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
>
> Quacks's
> I don't think they are send confirmations, I sent my logs with about 5 hrs.
> to go. Maybe I'll get a REAL early bird award. It was my Bed time.
> I didn't get a confirm from them!!!!
> Rex
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 13:28
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
>
>
> > I sent my log to logs@wrtc2002.org, but didn't get any kind of
> > confirmation. Should I have?
> > Barry--
> > Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> > Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sun Jul 14 20:49:15 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020714184915.011daf38@pop.vnet.net>
Hold on pardners! The WRTC website is now showing N5TJ/K1TO #1,
DL2CC/DL6FBL #2, and N6TJ/N6AA # 15 at 1.411 Meg (down from 1.747 Meg
originally)! There may have been some problem with the realtime N6TJ/N6AA
log which which was corrected when the teams made their final submission
after briefly reviewing their logs. If true, #1 and #2 positions are only
0.2% apart (6140 points) and a very close finish will come down to
log-checking. DL2CC/DL6FBL's score was also adjusted down exactly 1000
points which dropped them below N5TJ/K1TO (they were ahead in the initial
results). If this is all correct, we won't know who really won until the
awards ceremony tomorrow!
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n2mg at eham.net Sun Jul 14 17:00:41 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC scores
Message-ID: <001301c22b8a$481608c0$398c9541@delllaptopmfg>
I don't think these are final, but there has been some major shuffling of
the results on:
http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/tilanne.pl?hpng=WRTC
1. N5TJ/K1TO (were 3rd)
2. DL2CC/DL6FBL (were 2nd)
3. RA3AUU/RV1AW (were 4th)
with the N6TJ/N6AA team (previously in first place) being dropped to 15th
place. Quite the change from the initial results (which I screen-captured
for posterity)
-Mike N2MG
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sun Jul 14 21:05:20 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020714190520.011fe79c@pop.vnet.net>
The detailed breakdown for N6TJ/N6AA shows the following
sequence, only the last of which is posted, even though it is an
earlier time. May be some problem with the posting process since
the progression from earlier would indicate the 1.7M score is in
the right ballpark (remember OH time is UTC + 3):
OH time Score
13:00:26 1570162
14:01:10 1658232
15:26:21 1747340
15:20:00 1411344
At this point, nobody knows what this means but the OH guys!
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n4zr at contesting.com Sun Jul 14 17:28:12 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020714190520.011fe79c@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020714162452.051f87c0@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 08:05 PM 7/14/02 +0100, Bill Tippett wrote:
> The detailed breakdown for N6TJ/N6AA shows the following
>sequence, only the last of which is posted, even though it is an
>earlier time. May be some problem with the posting process since
>the progression from earlier would indicate the 1.7M score is in
>the right ballpark (remember OH time is UTC + 3):
>
>OH time Score
>13:00:26 1570162
>14:01:10 1658232
>15:26:21 1747340
>15:20:00 1411344
>
> At this point, nobody knows what this means but the OH guys!
With an hour to go, some back-markers suddenly vaulted into first place,
temporarily. Clearly there were some glitches, but the OH guys deserve our
applause for their ground-breaking efforts regardless.
Guess I can dig out my Grey Power tee-shirt, but should stop short of
putting it on until tomorrow (maybe).
73, Pete N4ZR
(61 and proud of it, now...)
>From W1RM at attbi.com Sun Jul 14 17:44:55 2002
From: W1RM@attbi.com (Peter Chamalian)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [YCCC] WRTC scores
In-Reply-To: <001301c22b8a$481608c0$398c9541@delllaptopmfg>
Message-ID: <000201c22b77$4fa65a80$6401a8c0@attbi.com>
Yogi was right! It ain't over 'til it's over.
Pete, W1RM
-----Original Message-----
From: yccc-admin@yccc.org [mailto:yccc-admin@yccc.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Gilmer
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 7:01 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com; yccc@yccc.org
Subject: [YCCC] WRTC scores
I don't think these are final, but there has been some major shuffling
of
the results on:
http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/tilanne.pl?hpng=WRTC
1. N5TJ/K1TO (were 3rd)
2. DL2CC/DL6FBL (were 2nd)
3. RA3AUU/RV1AW (were 4th)
with the N6TJ/N6AA team (previously in first place) being dropped to
15th
place. Quite the change from the initial results (which I
screen-captured
for posterity)
-Mike N2MG
_______________________________________________
YCCC Reflector
yccc@yccc.org
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/yccc
>From TOMK5RC at aol.com Sun Jul 14 18:26:12 2002
From: TOMK5RC@aol.com (TOMK5RC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
Message-ID: <105.189decb6.2a634674@aol.com>
I just notice the same thing. All of the scores have changed from the earlier
posting. Must be claimed versus checked.
Tom Taormina, K5RC
aka NV7A
Virginia City NV
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sun Jul 14 22:28:17 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] On the Bus with WRTC - #4 - 14 July 2002
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020714202817.011e0bcc@pop.vnet.net>
It's all over now! The IARU HF Championship is over as of a couple hours
ago and the team and I are packing our things and loading them into
OH2BAH's car for the short ride back to Helsinki and the gathering gang
at the Radisson hotel. And what a contest it was.
As we pulled into OH2BAH's QTH, we were thrilled to see several large
towers and most amazing of all, a homemade 10-meter diameter dish for
EME work. John has a couple of acres at his summer home on a lake about
40 miles from Helsinki. He shares the antennas with his brother, OH2PO,
the builder of the dish. One of the truly unique experiences of this
WRTC were the pre- and post-contest saunas (pronouced "SOW-nah").
I'm still feeling the warm glow that results from dashing out of the
dark, dry heat of the wooden benches and diving off the dock into the
cool, clear water. I had to demonstrate the good, old American
Cannonball and Can Opener, of course. There's nothing like it.
Returning to the contest, though, if you were following the Real-Time
Scoreboard, I'm sure you got caught up in the horse race that developed
on Sunday. At the close of business, N6TJ and N6AA had managed to
overtake last year's champs (and odds-on favorites) N5TJ and K1TO for
the gold medal. Jim and Dick also fended off a very close challenge from
DL6FBL and DL2CC, who claimed the silver--also ahead of Jeff and Todd,
who will be delighted to take the bronze. Saturday night had N5TJ/K1TO
in the lead by a substantial margin--I'm guessing due to their uncanny
ability to mix mult-chasing with running. I was expecting a three-peat,
but Team Old Age and Treachery managed to close the gap and more.
I'm sure that Jim N6TJ will attribute it to "Guts", and he may be right.
Conditions were really good. Our host, John OH2BAH, said that conditions
were excellent for midsummer, with a minimum of static and absorption on
the low bands. Ten was spotty which was hardly a surprise with the
solar flux at 136. But with the A and K indices low at 4 and 2,
respectively, we were prepared for that. There were no fades and the
stations appeared from different parts of the world pretty much on cue.
I hope you got a chance to put a bunch of the OJ stations in your
log--maybe enough for a prize or certificate. Listening as I did to the
entire contest--I think I dozed for a total of about 45 minutes over the
entire 24-hour run--this was an unusual contest.
Before the starting bell, we all had visions of what might become an "EU
Sweepstakes". Not so. Because the weather cooperated, as well, there
were no stations off the air at any time due to lightning. I guess with
the sky staying light all the time, maybe you could use the excuse of
the sun being in your eyes, but that's about all you have to try. 80
meters was regional (what a surprise) but all the other bands were open
for DX with plenty of stations. My team of UA2FZ and RW4WR placed close
to the middle of the pack even with 2400+ QSOs.
They pushed the last-10-QSO rate meter into the high 200's many times,
even on CW. I think the difference between the competitors is a very
small one and is mainly of the fine points of squeezing every drop out
of a pileup or flurry of callers. With low antennas (12-meters about
ground) and equal locations, no one team had dominant propagation, so
they had to maximize each chance to score. So it was over in seemingly
an instant. I'll tell you that it was a tough chore to be so close--at
the end of a headphone cable--and yet so far, not being able to
participate in the rough and tumble of the contest. Referees just have
to grit their teeth and watch and listen. However, it does strengthen
one's resolve to get better and be worthy of one of the next WRTC
chairs. Speaking of which, will there be another WRTC? Almost
certainly, but unlike the past two events, there is no announcement of a
host organization yet. I'm sure that the enthusiasm generated by
WRTC2002 will carry over to an organization stepping up and taking on
the job.
Then we will all be figuring out how to be a captain...or be best
friends with someone who is. And maybe just packing our bags and saving
our frequent-flyer miles to participate in one of the best experiences
in ham radio, the World Radiosport Team Championship.
Nakemiin (Goodbye) from Finland!
73, Ward N0AX/OH
>From n2mg at eham.net Sun Jul 14 21:12:04 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
References: <1.5.4.32.20020714190520.011fe79c@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <002501c22bad$67243d40$62749541@delllaptopmfg>
Sounds more like a problem with the scoring process, like perhaps the
software that team was using was miscounting (over scoring) something all
along, then at the end they realized it and recalculated and reposted
(though I cannot explain the time stamps)
Not that we would speculate - not on *this* reflector... ;-)
-Mike N2MG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tippett" <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
To: <pvrc@mailman.qth.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 12:05 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
> The detailed breakdown for N6TJ/N6AA shows the following
> sequence, only the last of which is posted, even though it is an
> earlier time. May be some problem with the posting process since
> the progression from earlier would indicate the 1.7M score is in
> the right ballpark (remember OH time is UTC + 3):
>
> OH time Score
> 13:00:26 1570162
> 14:01:10 1658232
> 15:26:21 1747340
> 15:20:00 1411344
>
> At this point, nobody knows what this means but the OH guys!
>
> 73, Bill W4ZV
>From N5RP at pdq.net Mon Jul 15 11:55:10 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Telrex Rotator
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715105256.00b83a78@pop.pdq.net>
Contesters subscribed to this list given priority of purchase.
This is the one of fables !
Forget modified prop pitches.
Forget the new stuff that makes interesting claims.
This is the rotor that has turned countless log periodic antennas around
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This unit may very well be the type of rotator that will never be built
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Manufactured by Telrex on 09/30/74
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Every single component is still stored in their original box and wrapping
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Rotor assembly is still mounted to the original shipping pallet from the
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Compass Rose indicator is brand new - Absolutely no scratches and even
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Selsyns have not been powered since initial factory assembly testings.
Included is 100' of cable for the initial run from shack to tower location.
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Pictures available upon request, but I must open boxes to take same.
.............. $1,500.00
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From contesting at eircom.net Mon Jul 15 19:05:26 2002
From: contesting@eircom.net (Tim Makins, EI8IC)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A New Concept in Ham Maps
Message-ID: <001401c22c22$4185e780$e6a9a5c2@host>
People might be interested to see a new type of Ham Map, now available for
free on my website. It will be of use to all amateurs, whether HF or VHF
based.
The problem with ordinary web-based maps is that there is either too little
or too much information on the screen. I have just completed a map of
Europe, the first in a series of Overlay Maps, where YOU get to choose the
amount of information you have on display.
The following overlays are available:
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You can chose which overlays are on display, the order they are displayed
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The map can be saved in the normal manner (File>Save As) for viewing
off-line, and it can be printed out with what ever overlays are active.
As the page is graphics-intensive (220kB) it takes approximately 30 seconds
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Or it can be accessed through the normal menu on my website.
IMPORTANT: THE MAP REQUIRES JAVASCRIPT TO BE ENABLED ON YOUR BROWSER.
IF YOU HAVE JAVASCRIPT TURNED OFF, IT WON'T WORK.
I welcome any comments or suggestions for other maps.
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www.qsl.net/ei8ic/
HF and Budget Contesting Information Site.
More maps in this series will be added as time and resources allow. It takes
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>From n2nu at arrl.net Mon Jul 15 15:01:35 2002
From: n2nu@arrl.net (John T. Fischer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
Message-ID: <002401c22c29$aa508480$2cc8060a@7911BXL20056>
I worked three maritime mobile stations in the IARU test and logged them as
xxnxxx/MM (e.g. SP2AVE/MM). In all cases, these were logged as 0 point
contacts in my version of WriteLog. I cannot find any reference at all to MM
stations in the rules, and I would think that these should be logged as 5
pointers since they were outside the continent and zone... In one case the
station gave me a new zone multiplier (which the program counts), even though
it was still logged as 0 points!
Clarification on the rules, anyone?
Thanks, John
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>From dhenderson at arrl.org Mon Jul 15 15:03:15 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RTTY Roundup Results Now Available Online
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC044F90EB@kahless.arrlhq.org>
The results for the 2002 ARRL RTTY Roundup are now available online to ARRL
members at:
www.arrl.org/contests/results
ARRL members must be logged on with the membership ID and password.
My hearty congratulations to Jay Townsend, WS7I, on an exceptionally well
done Web article. Also our thanks to Eddie Schneider, W6/G0AZT on a great
job of processing the logs and handling the log checking.
The results will also appear in the September QST. For non-ARRL members,
public online results are opened approximately 30 days after the results
appear in QST.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 15 12:08:02 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 15Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207151808.g6FI82i11147@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 15Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in the summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S LP
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW LP
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
VE9DX 739 0 266 300,048
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 37,609 FCG
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed LP
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
WN6K 344 338 91 15 211,575 SCCC
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed QRP
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB LP
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
Operators:
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 15 12:09:17 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 15Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207151809.g6FI9H111157@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 15Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in thsi summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA M/S HP
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW LP
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed HP
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB HP
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB LP
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
Operators:
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Mon Jul 15 15:12:49 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 Honor Roll
Message-ID: <20020715141249.K4998@cs.utexas.edu>
The W1AW/5 team appreciates the efforts of all Amateur Radio operators
that got on for the 2002 IARU HF World Championship and helped make it a
weekend to remember. With over 10,000 QSOs in the log, we would like to
especially recognize those who worked W1AW/5 on all 12 band-modes, on the
6 CW bands, or the 6 phone bands. Check out the W1AW/5 Honor Roll at the
Central Texas DX & Contest Club web site:
http://www.ctdxcc.org/
--
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Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Mon Jul 15 21:06:37 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Telrex Rotator
References: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715105256.00b83a78@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <3D332B4D.BD417655@directvinternet.com>
If someone is thinking of buying Bob's prop pitch, be warned there is
a LOCKING NUT on the rotator housing. Remove it before applying power.
Actually, in the one I had, I didn't know this. No matter, the rotor
just got up a little steam, and sheared it off like it wasn't there.
Not the best way.
):>
Ed
>From N5RP at pdq.net Mon Jul 15 16:42:55 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Telrex Rotator
In-Reply-To: <3D332B4D.BD417655@directvinternet.com>
References: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715105256.00b83a78@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715154010.00b99118@pop.pdq.net>
At 20:06 7/15/2002 +0000, K4SB wrote:
>If someone is thinking of buying Bob's prop pitch, be warned there is
>a LOCKING NUT on the rotator housing. Remove it before applying power.
====================>
The locking nut would still be on the unit.
>Actually, in the one I had, I didn't know this. No matter, the rotor
>just got up a little steam, and sheared it off like it wasn't there.
====================>
Guess that says it all - It will turn about anything .
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From Timothy.Urban at wc.ey.com Mon Jul 15 18:05:03 2002
From: Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com (Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
Message-ID: <OF2DE0EB34.2B77BCEA-ON85256BF7.00730B52@ey.com>
LIsters, etiquette question follows:
I worked another station on SSB during the IARU contest, the other op got
my callsign correct, but apparently mis-heard my ITU zone.
I said "five nine - zero eight", but the other op responded by saying "QSL
on your zone seven, QRZ de.....". I then replied "negative, zone 8" but
the other op had already sent "qrz" and begun working another station.
Propagation wasn't great and the other op didn't seem to hear my following
calls to fix the busted zone.
How concerned should I be? Should I try to re-contact the other op later
with a dupe hf contact during the contest to alert him to the busted zone?
I'm trying to be very conscientious but many of the other contesters
don't seem as obsessed with accuracy..........
73
Tim
N5IIT
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Mon Jul 15 18:09:12 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
In-Reply-To: <OF2DE0EB34.2B77BCEA-ON85256BF7.00730B52@ey.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715170515.00b875d8@pop.pdq.net>
At 17:05 7/15/2002 -0400, Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com wrote:
><snip>
>How concerned should I be? Should I try to re-contact the other op later
>with a dupe hf contact during the contest to alert him to the busted zone?
> I'm trying to be very conscientious but many of the other contesters
>don't seem as obsessed with accuracy........
==========================>
If you can work him again without too much effort, and without costing
yourself whatever contest asset(s) you consider important, do so.
I would scrub the busted 1st QSO from my log.
No matter what, QSO #1 was not completed, based upon what you were given as
an acknowledgement.
Welcome to contesting.
Set a standard for yourself that is proper, and enjoy it properly.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From aa4ga at contesting.com Mon Jul 15 19:24:47 2002
From: aa4ga@contesting.com (Lee Hiers)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
Message-ID: <3D33136F.4886.22C6C8B@localhost>
Every time I work this contest I work folks that don't know their
zone.
Let's say a W1 calls and tells me he's in zone 5.
I ask "what's your QTH?"
"Maine"
"OK, that's ITU zone 8"
"No, I'm in zone 5"
Or some similar discourse.
So, how do you log it / count points?
73 de Lee
--
Lee Hiers, AA4GA
Cornelia, Georgia
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Mon Jul 15 19:35:10 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
References: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715170515.00b875d8@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <3D334E1E.2C303EA6@gte.net>
"Bob, N5RP" wrote:
> If you can work him again without too much effort, and without
> costing yourself whatever contest asset(s) you consider important,
> do so.
More than likely, you'll get "QSO B4 QRZ" and be SOL for a second QSO
(which again, is a reason to work dupes ... just in case one of the two
made an error).
> I would scrub the busted 1st QSO from my log. No matter what,
> QSO #1 was not completed, based upon what you were given as an
> acknowledgement.
On the other hand, if you count the QSO ... you'll get credit for it ...
he'll lose and get penalized for it as a busted QSO!
The guy sort of deserves that because:
a) not getting the info correct the first time and
b) probably not going to work you a second time for a "good" QSO
As Bob said "Set a standard for yourself that is proper, and enjoy it
properly". Whatever way you go, at least be consistent.
Ron
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Mon Jul 15 19:40:36 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
Message-ID: <3D334F64.4C84294C@gte.net>
After all the pre-WRTC hype ...
it's now after 1:30 AM in OH land ... 7 1/2 hours after the Awards
Dinner.
Who won?
What teams were behind the OJ calls?
Waiting to find out ...
Ron, WD4AHZ
>From Jimk8mr at aol.com Mon Jul 15 20:01:23 2002
From: Jimk8mr@aol.com (Jimk8mr@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
Message-ID: <197.9bf7121.2a64ae43@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/15/2002 6:55:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wd4ahz@gte.net
writes:
> it's now after 1:30 AM in OH land ... 7 1/2 hours after the Awards Dinner.
>
> Who won?
>
Of all the people in the world, I thought you guys in Florida would
understand having to wait... and wait... and wait... for the results from a
close contest. :-)
Only 36 and 2/3 days to go.
Jim K8MR
(Also waiting to hear)
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>From llindblom at juno.com Tue Jul 16 00:10:21 2002
From: llindblom@juno.com (Larry L Lindblom)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NAQP RTTY
Message-ID: <20020715.231021.-397105.3.LLindblom@juno.com>
If your thinking about playing in NAQP RTTY why not double you pleasure
double your fun and sign on for a team. By playing on a team you compete
in both the single op and team competition. For me playing on a team
adds a new lever of enjoyment to this fun event.
Those signed on so far to play on a team with TCG include:
K4GKM
K4RO
W4BCG
N1NB
KE4OAR
N2WK
W5CTV
If your expressed interest and your call is missing from the list, please
resend your message.
I will put together as many teams as there are interested players.
E-mail me direct if you want to sign of to a team
You will notice my own call is lacking from the list. This is because
the frequency tuning in my main rig died and the backup rig suddenly
seems to have almost zero power output. You might say in was a lousy
weekend here in the IARU test. I have serious doubt about getting one of
these rigs going by this Saturday. If I do count me in, if I don't I'll
cheer all the TCG team players on from the sidelines.
73 W0ETC
>From kd4d at comcast.net Mon Jul 15 21:47:13 2002
From: kd4d@comcast.net (Mark Bailey)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
References: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715170515.00b875d8@pop.pdq.net>
<3D334E1E.2C303EA6@gte.net>
Message-ID: <015801c22c62$53a9f6a0$6501a8c0@Mark1>
Hello, all:
"QSO B4 QRZ" mystifies me. Or, maybe, "B4 PJ2M"
or "DUPE PJ2M" or whatever, which seems more efficient.
Why would the run station EVER send this?
Is the run station going to send QSO B4 and then WAIT for
an answer and start to negotiate? This appears to make sense
only in the rare contest where both stations are penalized for
an error. And, it's not QSO B4 QRZ?, its QSO B4 (wait for
answer).
There are only three cases :-) :
Case 1: The S&P station busted the call the first time.
If he's serious, he'll probably argue about it, especially if you
are a multiplier. It will take longer to look up and send a QSO
time or whatever than to just complete another QSO. You
don't get penalized for a duplicate QSO in your log, and he'll
get credit at least for the second QSO. (Of course, both of
you log ALL QSO's). He gets penalized for the first bad QSO
but you don't.
Case 2: You busted his call the first time.
Well, you lose credit for the initial QSO whatever happens, unless
you spend a lot of time negotiating with the other station and
figuring out what happened. However, working him again then
gives YOU a good QSO. You get the penalty for the bad
initial QSO anyway.
Case 3: Other!
It's another mistake. Who knows? :-) Computer or operator
confusion? Busted packet spot? Maybe the other station
realizes the error and doesn't send anything else. Still, completing
and logging the QSO benefits the run station and is just about as
fast as listening to the other station sending "SRI" or whatever.
They always seem to send "SRI", right on top of a weak
multiplier calling you. :-)
BTW, Operator confusion can affect the running station too.
So, why would anyone EVER send QSO B4 QRZ?
Maybe in Sweepstakes, with the long exchange?
But, then negotiation starts to seem appealing...so you
send "QSO B4" and wait for the response.
Still slower than just completing the QSO! And, it isn't
sending "QSO B4 QRZ?."
Awaiting enlightenment...
73,
Mark, KD4D
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Wetjen" <wd4ahz@gte.net>
To: "Bob, N5RP" <N5RP@pdq.net>
Cc: <Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
> "Bob, N5RP" wrote:
>
> > If you can work him again without too much effort, and without
> > costing yourself whatever contest asset(s) you consider important,
> > do so.
>
> More than likely, you'll get "QSO B4 QRZ" and be SOL for a second QSO
> (which again, is a reason to work dupes ... just in case one of the two
> made an error).
>
> > I would scrub the busted 1st QSO from my log. No matter what,
> > QSO #1 was not completed, based upon what you were given as an
> > acknowledgement.
>
> On the other hand, if you count the QSO ... you'll get credit for it ...
> he'll lose and get penalized for it as a busted QSO!
>
> The guy sort of deserves that because:
>
> a) not getting the info correct the first time and
> b) probably not going to work you a second time for a "good" QSO
>
> As Bob said "Set a standard for yourself that is proper, and enjoy it
> properly". Whatever way you go, at least be consistent.
>
> Ron
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>From kr1g at hotmail.com Tue Jul 16 03:21:19 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
Message-ID: <F75gJyjX1VThKL3XUK900013a00@hotmail.com>
For obvious screwups, like the W1in zone 5 or the DL in zone 15 I log the
"correct" zone. For the RK4 in zone 30, the UN in zone 31 etc, I log what
they send me - hey, they might be right!
for the record, I only "corrected" one zone. Theoretically, I should have
engaged the OM/YL in a lively CW discourse explaining that the exchange was
IARU zone not CQ zone, but my CW (other than contestese) is not so hot and
they probably wouldn't have understood me anyways :)
73
Ted KT1V
PS: Anyone know how closely the logs get checked? Not that it should effect
proper behavior! but just curious. I detailed UBN would be great
>From: "Lee Hiers" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
>To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
>
>Every time I work this contest I work folks that don't know their
>zone.
>
>Let's say a W1 calls and tells me he's in zone 5.
>
>I ask "what's your QTH?"
>
>"Maine"
>
>"OK, that's ITU zone 8"
>
>"No, I'm in zone 5"
>
>Or some similar discourse.
>
>So, how do you log it / count points?
>
>73 de Lee
>
>
>--
>Lee Hiers, AA4GA
>Cornelia, Georgia
>
>
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Tue Jul 16 00:24:32 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC mail box full
Message-ID: <00ad01c22c78$4e4a8740$2d1045cf@default>
A problem has been reported by a local SECC member. He got this
message......
Copy=============
Anyone else but me have their WRTC log submission
rejected due to lack of room in the recipient's
mailbox?
Dick K2UFT
End================
Someone needs to get a message to them that there are probably logs rejected
all over the place. Dick worked 47 OJ stations!
73 Dave K4JRB
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Mon Jul 15 23:39:15 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
In-Reply-To: <197.9bf7121.2a64ae43@aol.com>
Message-ID: <MCBBJAHBAIHDJKDNKBBIEEHBCAAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
What AHZ asked for was who was who among the OJ calls...
Is this what you are after, Jim....
http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/pos.pl?hpng=WRTC
73,
dale, kg5u
>
> In a message dated 7/15/2002 6:55:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> wd4ahz@gte.net
> writes:
>
>
> > it's now after 1:30 AM in OH land ... 7 1/2 hours after the
> Awards Dinner.
> >
> > Who won?
> >
>
>
> Of all the people in the world, I thought you guys in Florida would
> understand having to wait... and wait... and wait... for the
> results from a
> close contest. :-)
>
> Only 36 and 2/3 days to go.
>
>
> Jim K8MR
>
> (Also waiting to hear)
>
>
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>From bhorn at hornucopia.com Mon Jul 15 22:21:25 2002
From: bhorn@hornucopia.com (Bruce Horn)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
In-Reply-To: <3D334F64.4C84294C@gte.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020715211916.00b05c18@hornucopia.com>
At 06:40 PM 7/15/2002 -0400, Ron Wetjen wrote:
>Who won?
The official top five and photos of the awards ceremony are available on
the NCJ web site:
http://www.ncjweb.com/
I assume complete results will soon be available on the official WRTC 2002
web site.
73 de Bruce, WA7BNM (bhorn@hornucopia.com)
>From k6km at cncnet.com Mon Jul 15 22:52:45 2002
From: k6km@cncnet.com (Bill)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
References: <20020712213837.HVSX20539.fep06-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.110]>
Message-ID: <3D33A69D.9470A48E@cncnet.com>
Hei OH-land!
What is happening there?
Please tell us supporters of WRTC02 WHO WON the
competition!
Obviously there were some scoring problems, most
notably with N6TJ and N6AA. PLEASE tell us why their
score decreased as time passed; that should not be possible.
PLEASE tell us why the N5KO/9V1YC score went
flat in the last few hours.
PLEASE tell us which teams were associated with which
OJ callsigns!
PLEASE tell us what's going on. To me, the delay in
reporting results means that POLITICS is coming in
to play and POLITICS may be more meaningful than
PERFORMANCE in determing the final results.
PLEASE prove me wrong.
As any one might expect, Team Finland did a wonderful
job preparing for and hosting WRTC 2002. Thank you
for that. But WHY have you kept the world in ignorance
as to the results?
PLEASE TELL US WOT's UP!
Bill K6KM
also OH2/K6KM and OH0/K6KM
>From 107770.3462 at compuserve.com Tue Jul 16 02:17:05 2002
From: 107770.3462@compuserve.com (James P. Cassidy)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QSO B4
Message-ID: <200207160117_MC3-1-693-9387@compuserve.com>
I had a really good experience with one station in the IARU regarding QSO
B4. He sent SRI QSO B4, I said no and he went ahead and worked me again.
Worked OK for both and didn't take much longer than just working again
without the message. I am sure I hadn't QSOed B4 as the computer logging
dupe check handles that and also I had not made that many Qs that I
wouldn't have remembered.
73 Jim KI7Y
>From ken.knopp at verizon.net Tue Jul 16 00:51:51 2002
From: ken.knopp@verizon.net (Ken K7ZUM)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W7GG, THREE RIVERS FIRE, I.A.R.U. 2002..... LONG
Message-ID: <004b01c22c95$43bffcc0$6401a8c0@dslverizon.net>
Hi All, thought I'd write about an experience I had over the weekend doing
the I.A.R.U. contest from W7GG'S central Oregon
contest location, as it will be one that will most defineteley stand out as one
that I will remember, and will be impossiable for us to forget !!
It started off friday morning still not knowing if W7GG was
going to do the test, as he had some sort of bug and was not feeling real well,
but being the intense competitor that he is, he went to the doc, got a pocket
full of medicine and gave me a call at my work QTH about 9:00 o'clock friday
morning saying he was headed over to the contest station and was going to give
it a try, and it should be no problem as he wanted to do c.w. (no talking, he
could save his voice) and my youngest son and I could do phone part, sounded
good to me ! but also to stick somewhat close to the 2 mtr radio as there was
a small lighting started forest fire north of his location, and he'd give me a
call and let me know the status of the fire after he got there.
Somewheres around 2 o'clock friday afternoon I got the call on 2
mtrs from Bob, fire did not look all of that bad, was about 5 miles from his
place, with a light wind blowing to the north, meaning away from his place, it
was also several ridges over, on the other side of Lake Billy Chinook, and on
the Indian reservation, we could see no problem, as have been over there with
them closer than that. So the contest was on, I'd get off of work, pick up my
youngest son, pack the truck and make the 2-1/2 hr 129 mile drive from
Gresham Ore to three rivers. It should be a good time, and we would get a
chance to check out all of the antenna
work that we had done a few months ago. I also got ahold of my dx-ped partner,
Craig, AH8DX/W7, and let him know the contest was on, and that we would be
heading over to Bob's place, and he was more than welcome to come over and use
my station for the test.
To those of you who have worked W7GG,AI7B or WW7OR over the
years and have wondered about his big signal, let me give a little run down on
his contest QTH, Three Rivers is a gated community, way out in the "pucker
brush" (literally) in the high desert of central Oregon, about 25 miles west of
a small town called Culver, basically a vacation resort, with a few
homes,mobile homes, trailer houses,etc, most people come over for the weekend,
with a few living there all year roung, there is no running water, no
commercial power, (nearest commercial power is about 20 miles away) no flushing
toilets, except the ones you make for yourself ! etc. etc. water is bought and
stored on site, electric power at W7GG's place is either solar,wind
mills,diesel or propane powered generators, towers and antenna's are many, 190
ft. rotating tower with 2 stacked full sized 3 element 40 mtr beams, stacked
kt34xa's, 80 and 160 mtr wire 4 squares, 165 ft tower with stacked mono-band
yagis for 20,15 and 10 mtrs, 125 ft tower with several other yagis, 100 ft.
tower with another tribander, windmills, solar paners, etc. on it, that covers
most of the antennas, He has this all situated on about 5 acres, and it is a
very nice place to retire to on a weekend and play radio, so when you hear
W7GG on the air handing out Q's, it is at great expense to Bob.
So, it was up over Mt Hood, and into central Oregon for what I
hoped would be an uneventful drive, but my youngest son was driving, and
anything could happen!!! ( it didn't, he did a good job on the way over) By
the time we came up out of Warm Springs and onto the flats into Madras, the sun
was going down over the mountains, and we got a good look at the small forest
fire
off in the distance, smoke was drifting to the north, which was good, as we
were going to be south of it. So It was on into Madras, follow the signs to
Lake Billy Chinook, and keep my eyes on the fire.
By the time we got to the top of the canyon road that drops you
down into Lake Billy Chinook it was dark, and that little bitty forest fire
was looking a little on the menancing side, we were still about 20 miles away,
so down into the canyon we went, over two very, very narrow suspension bridges
and climbed up out of the canyon, once on top, we got our first real look at
that little bitty forest fire, it was no longer just menancing looking, it was
damn scary looking, and we were headed right for it !
I called bob on 2 mtrs and tried to describe what I was seeing, he sounded a
little concerned, and said that it was still 4 to 5 miles north west of him,
with a very mild breeze blowing to the north away from him, so it should still
be no problem, I said we'd be there soon, and signed off, It was about then
that I noticed that my normally lead footed 15 yr old son was looking out the
windshield at the fire in front of us,mouth open, and eyes opened even wider !
and going very slow ! ! I knew he was just as stunned as I was, I just looked
at him and said, I dont think were going to be doing much contesting this
weekend, were probally going to Bob's place and packing the truck's up and
getting the heck out of there. I don't think in the fifteen years that I have
been lucky enough to have Jordan as my son, that I have ever seen him agree
more quickly to anything I have ever said !
By the time we got to the main gate to pick up a pass to go
onto Three Rivers property, the normally empty parking lot was full of fire
trucks, heavy earth moving equipment, fire fighters, etc., and the fire was a
site to behold, the entire night sky to the northwest of where I was standing
had the most sureal, eerie orange "glow" that I have ever seen
I went in to get a pass, came back out, stood in awe, and looked at the fire
in the sky, made a few choice four letter "observations", and was already
planning in my mind what I could pack in my little truck and how I could get it
in, just in case they gave the word to evacuate.
Made the mile or so drive from the main gate to Bobs place and
pulled into his property, Meet Bob outside, parked the truck and we sat on the
outside deck and made plans of what we should do if we had to leave in a hurry,
all the while looking to the northwest at the "orange glow" coming over the top
of the tree's.
By now, there was no breeze, some cloud cover, and we could smell no "smoke"
that was about 10:00 o'clock in the evening,
by 11:00 we decided to try and get some sleep, only problem was, it was too hot
to sleep in the house, and it was still 94 degrees outside !!!! So for Jordan
and me, It was make a bed out on the deck and try and sleep in just shorts !
by midnight I knew it was going to be a long hot,semi sleepless night ! and
what was worse, was that every little breeze that came along, I found myself
trying to determine what direction, north, south,east,west, is there smoke on
that breeze, can I hear the tell tale sounds of burning trees, and on and on,
and then there was that eerie "orange" glow from the fire, it was reflecting
off of the cloud cover and everything I could see had an "orange" glow to it,
trees, grass, house, towers,antennas, gravel, etc, literally everything ! was
very un-nerving ! At one point Jordan got up, had a white t-shirt on, walked
by me, and he was even "glowing orange" !!!!
It was somewhere's around 3 o'clock in the morning that I noticed that the
"glow" was no longer around, got up, looked to the northwest, and could no
longer see much of anything, no smoke rising, no orange glow, laid back down
and finally fell asleep with the thoughts that the fire was dying out, and the
firefighters had it under control, I felt much better, and actually got about 3
hours worth of sleep !
bob was up at 4:30, ready to start the test at 5:00, he
started out on 40 c.w. with JA5ING/1 first in the log at 5:06 a.m. local time.
By the time I got up with several cups of coffe in me to try and shake off my
restless night,and take a peek around the side of the house to check on the
fire, ( hurray, looked like it was pretty much gone out ! ) there was 210 Q's
in the log,
We traded seats and I started off of 20 mtr ssb, with N0NI first in the log at
7:57 a.m. local, made a total of 13 q's on 20 ssb and decided that was not the
place to be, last q's on 20 that morning was W1AW/5 at 8:25 a.m. local, bad
rates !
15 mtrs sounded much, much better, with W6XR first in the log,
europe was open and was answering my c.q.'s !
so for the next hour and a half or so, I ran and ran, watching the rate meter
at times aproaching 185 q's, not bad, not bad at all for way out here in
Oregon ! And then I had something happen to me that I have read about many
times over the years, about 9:30 local time ( 14:30 utc) I was calling c.q.
with the voice keyer, I heard something, stopped, and heard the tail end of a
c.q. message, what I heard was, seven germany germany contest ! I had
thought it a little odd for a split secound, and then realized that was my
VOICE ! my first long delayed echo ??
Bob walked into the shack at about 10:00 a.m. local, looked at
the rates I was having on 15 phone, and I could see by the look in his eye's (
plus the drool coming out of the side of his mouth !) that he wanted some of
the action, I took a break and let Bob run some c.w. went into the kitchen,
grabbed a cup of coffee, walked out the back door to check on the fire, and
everything looked just fine ! no smoke, no clouds, no fire ! looked like we
were gonna have a great time this weekend after all !
by 11:00 a.m. local time, I looked out the south window of the
shack and noticed that it was getting hard to see the big tower about 400
hundred feet away, and the smell of burning wood was starting to come into the
shack ! I took one look at Bob, and he looked at me as I was putting down my
drink, letting Bob know I was going to go and check things out.
Grabbed a set of binocoulrs on the way out of the house, headed
over to the pole barn, grabbed a climbing belt and headed out to the small
tower to the northwest of the property, up the tower I went and hooked on at
about 60-70 ft., well above the tree line and took a peek, by then there was so
much low lying smoke in all directions, it was hard to tell where it was coming
from, but with a little bit of squinting, I could see that it was coming from
the northwest, so far it looked like a smouldering camp fire, and from what I
could see, was still about 4-5 miles away. Down the tower I went, into the
shack and discussed what I had seen with Bob, we had heard nothing from the
main gate about evacuation, so decided to to worry just yet.
By 11:45 a.m. local time we had looked out the window and noticed
there was a slight breeze coming from the south, and had cleared out all of the
smoke ! GREAT ! no clouds, no smoke, a slight breeze from the south, and the
europeans were just booming in on 15 mtrs ! things were looking up ! it was
also getting close to 90 degrees F. ! We traded off and I ran europe for about
another hour or so, By 12:00 or so in the afternoon, the temperature in the
shack was somewhere around 94 degrees, and that was with two box fans going,
one 20 inch box fan was in the west window of the shack, and we both noticed at
about the same time, that the fan was speeding up and slowing down, and it
wasn't due to voltage variations from the diesel generator, Our slight
southern breeze had changed directions and was now coming from the worst
possiable direction, out of the northwest, and it was no longer a "slight
breeze".
We traded off at 12:15 p.m. local, europe still booming in on
15 mtr c.w., I went to the kitchen to grab something cold to drink and find
something to snack on and walked out the back door to check on the fire, by now
I could see some smoke rising above the trees, but not coming at us, was
starting to worry a little bit, as the wind was really starting to pick up, and
it was really gettin hot ! it had to be somewheres over a hundred outside, with
no humidity.
Went back into the shack at 1:15 p.m. to take over, noticed
that the temp in the shack was getting close to 98 deg. F.
seen bob had changed to 20 c.w., so decided to try 20 phone and put in some
much needed q's on that band, by 1:40 p.m. decided that 20 was not producing
well, and went back to 15 phone for a little S&P, first in was TA3D at 1:49
p.m. local, did a little more S & P'ing, and found my first JA, JA4DPL at
1:52 p.m. local, now I decided it was time to reposition antenna's, turn the
TB-6 to the U.S., turn the rotating tower with the stacked KT-34-XA's to JA
land, and use WX0B's six pack box ( the fun switch) to switch between the fixed
european stack, U.S. antenna and JA antenna's, now it was time to really rock
and roll ! as I had the whole world to work, europe was still booming in, U.S.
was booming in, a few south americans, and the J.A. and deep Russians were
starting to roll !
At 2:00 p.m. local time, Craig, AH8DX\W7 checked in from my
station in Gresham, we exchanged numbers and info, he asked how it was going, I
had stated that we were starting to really worry about the fire to the north of
use, and was not sure how much longer we might be here, by then, the box fan in
the window was really howing, from my operating position, I could not see out
the window very well, but from the way the fan was howling, I was expecting at
any moment flames to be lapping around the corner ! we only had at that time,
614 q's in the log, it had been somewhat difficult to concentrate on the
contest, and was getting harder and harder to concentrate on the contest. the
temperature in the shack was now at 99.9 deg. F., and it was much hotter
outside.
Another 22 minutes went by and I had put another 40 q's in the
log, my son had showed up at my side, stating that he had been up at the front
gate talking to a firefighter who had said that if you had and personal
belongings, you had better start packing them and be prepared to get out. I had
stopped and took a call on two meters from one of the other hams that live on
the property, so far he had not heard anything from the front gate about
evacuating. About that time, bob walked into the shack, we all sat and
discussed what to do next, I thought that maybe the best thing to do for the
time being, was to grab the binoculours and a climbing belt and go back up the
little tower and take another peek at the fire. All agreed that this would give
us some sort of go\no go. So out the door I went, over to the tower, and up I
went. This particular tower I can only climb up on the north face of it, so at
about the 65-70 ft level, I clipped on, grabbed for the binoculours, turned
around, and damned near dropped the binocs !! this time I did not need them,
as what I saw put a chill up my spine, and stood the hair up on the back of my
neck !
What I was looking at, was no longer just a smoldering fire, it
was a raging, wind whipped, out of control wild fire, with huge billowing
clouds of smoke, what was worse, it was no longer 4-5 miles away, it was maybe
2, and heading southeast, pretty much right for use, what was even worse than
that, was a fire had spread south of the main fire, and IT WAS heading for us !
by this time, the winds were whipped up to around 30 or so miles per hour.
I have always thought it rather unusual as to some of the
things I remember in times of stress like this, and it seemed rather odd to me,
that standing up on that tower, watching this raging fire, and thinking about
watching an interview several years ago of the commanding officer of Clark Air
Force base in the Phillippines after the volcano there covered up the air base,
A reporter had asked him what indication he had, as to when to evacuate, his
answer was when he seen a young seargeant running by him, yelling, General, I
hope you gots some Jam in your pocket, as were about to be "toast" ! then he
knew it was time to leave !
and me, like the General, I sure wasn't much intrested in becoming "toast", so
it was unclip myself from the tower, with Bob barreling out the back door of
the house, saying we gots to GO ! and from 65 ft or so up, I don't think it
took me 30 secounds before my feet hit the ground at a dead run for the house,
now it was time to try and decide what to save.
It was now about 2:45 p.m. local, as we headed for the shack
to try and save as much as possiable before the fire hit, we had maybe 2 hrs, 3
tops, I shut the computers off, noticed that we only had 661 q's in the log,
with JA6FMR being the last one at 21:36 UTC. Bob, Jordan and I had a short
conversation with what to start with, was easy, the most expensive equipment
first, I started unplugging all of the 1000 mike papa's, Bob and Jordan started
on all of the smaller radios, power supplies and brick amps, we started
stacking things on the front porch, from there, next was the Titan amps and
power supplies, next from there was the Henry amps, both little Henry, and big
Henry, by then we had quit a pile stacked up on the front porch, the next thing
to do was to back my little pickup up to the deck and start loading, mike
papa's, titans,power supplies,bricks,smaller radios into the back of the truck,
next was to try and get the big amps into the bed, and from there, start
shoving anything else that we could into it. At one point I remember looking up
at the temp gauge, 100.5 deg. F. no wonder the sweat was pouring out of use !
and that damn box fan in the window was still howling !
Don't ask me why, but for some reason or another, there was a
surplus of unused cardboard boxes, and thank god there was, as we used every
one of them shoving wallpaper,hard won contest plaques, family memories, stack
match boxes,six pack boxes, relay boxes, filters, top ten boxes, four square
boxes,monitors,computers, headphones,mics,footswitches,and anything else we
could shove in them, and when we ran out of boxes, we found some plastic boxes
full of linen, out went the linen, and in went the good stuff ! It was truly
amazing, in about an hour and a half, we had that shack pretty much torn down
to tables and chairs, and had pretty much gotten all of the equipment out, What
was even more amazing was when I went out the back door to check on the
progress of the fire, It was no longer "just" to the northwest of us, it was
still spreading towards use, but was also traveling at a very high rate to the
east, more or less parellel to us, and from what I could see, in the hour or so
I had last checked on it, it looked like it had gone maybe 3 miles, with
billowing smoke clouds that had to be reaching 25,000 plus feet, and streaching
from just about as far as I could see to the west, to as far as I could see to
the east, the sight of this made us move a little bit faster, as we still had
plenty to try and load up.
It was now about 4:15, and we had more to try and load, we
started loading motorcycles into Bob's truck, got them tied down, hitched up
his boat, and proceded to shove as much stuff as we could into his boat, and
front of his Truck.
another 45 minutes or so had passed, and we had pretty much decided that we had
all we were gonna get, my poor ole truck was so loaded, that it was pretty much
draggin the rear bumper, and the tires were just about half flat, was gonna be
a long slow ride home. Bob's truck was just about the same, don't think we
could have shoved to much more into it either !
It was now a little after 5:00 p.m. and was time to leave, we took another look
at the fire, it had grown even more, and looked as if it had traveled another 2
miles east, and now the smoke cloud was reminding me of what MT. ST. Helens
looked like when it blew its top 20 some odd years ago, not a pretty site !
As we were getting ready to leave, Jordan came up to me, and
with some pretty red and wet eyes, made the statement that this was just about
the saddest day of his life, and I could not help but think he was probally
right, as for the last five years this has been our radio contesting home, as
Bob and his wife Laverna have been gracious hosts to my two boys and I, we have
gone there and played radio so many times in the last five years that the
contests are becoming a blurr, we have had nothing but great times and great
memories at the Three Rivers Contest Club, to think that it could be over with
and that the next time that we see the place, it could be nothing more than
"toast" it was just a little to mind numbing. About all I could do was give him
a hug, let him know that there was nothing we could do at the moment, and just
hope for the best. it was time to go.
Here I am writing this late sunday evening, and still no word on
what if anything has happened to W7GG'S place, they are not letting anybody in,
and the news reports don't look all of that good, fire is still spreading.
for those of you that would like to send a kind word of two to Bob, here's his
e-mail address:
bob.wrubble@verizon.net
vy 73...... Ken....... K7ZUM........ FS/K7ZUM........ PJ7/K7ZUM
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>From n2mg at eham.net Tue Jul 16 08:14:24 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
References: <3D33136F.4886.22C6C8B@localhost>
Message-ID: <007b01c22cb9$f1c533c0$3201a8c0@mikehome>
In the conversation below, you have already engaged in a somewhat extended
dialog (for a contest) - why not finish it and tell him, "This contest is
the IARU contest and uses IARU zones which are different from CQ zones.
You're definitely in Zone 8." ? Then log him as such. If he asks for more
info, send him to the ARRL website.
I log what I think is correct - usually that's whatever the guy sent, but
when you know better, well...
73 Mike N2MG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Hiers" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:24 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
> Every time I work this contest I work folks that don't know their
> zone.
>
> Let's say a W1 calls and tells me he's in zone 5.
>
> I ask "what's your QTH?"
>
> "Maine"
>
> "OK, that's ITU zone 8"
>
> "No, I'm in zone 5"
>
> Or some similar discourse.
>
> So, how do you log it / count points?
>
> 73 de Lee
>
>
> --
> Lee Hiers, AA4GA
> Cornelia, Georgia
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Jul 16 08:17:27 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Drugs @ WRTC - final results?
Message-ID: <004501c22cba$5e327720$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
...there is a rumor circulating around the West Coast that N6AA and N6TJ were
penalized for using performance enhancing drugs in WRTC - belive there is a
factual error however...
Rather than the supposed drug, Geritol...I believe it was actually Icy-Hot
being rubbed on their sending hands.
Sure wish the Finns would update the WRTC site, suspect the awards ceremony was
one kb party and they are still trashed - do have some insider info but the
rest of the World and all of the Florida Contest Group has been glued to their
web page for two days now - and the winner is?
73,
Jim, K4OJ
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Tue Jul 16 12:26:48 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 2002 Results
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020716102648.01310e9c@pop.vnet.net>
>From today's issue of The Daily DX:
This past weekend was the annual running of the IARU HF Championship
in which 52 top-notch two-man teams from all over the world competed
in the fourth running of the World Radio Team Championships held in
Helsinki, Finland. As of press time the official results had just
been made at a ceremony in down town Helsinki with over 400 people in
attendance. Your editor spoke directly with Marti Laine, OH2BH, Co-
Chairman of WRTC2002. Here are the top 10 finishers. Scores and
other details were not available, but should be posted at
http://www.wrtc2002.org later this week.
Rank Operators (station)
1 N5TJ - K1TO (OH2HXP) 6 VE3EJ - VE7ZO
2 RA3AUU - RV1AW (OH3AXA) 7 K5ZD - K1KI
3 DL2CC - DL6FBL (OX1XX) 8 UT4UZ - UT3UA
4 N6MJ - N2NL 9 LY1DS - LY2TA
5 KQ2M - W7WA 10 DK3GI - DL1IAO
Dan Street, K1TO, and Jeff Steinman, N5TJ, from the US, won the event.
The two were operating from the OH2HXP station using the callsign
OJ3A. This is the third straight win for the dynamic duo. This is
the second time the Russian team has come in second place.
At one point the Scoreboard reported the N6TJ and N6AA team as the
winner, however the TR logging program inflated their score. The
German team also has some minor deductions due to their logging
program Writelog. Congratulations to all the team members and a
special thanks to the SRAL and Contest Club of Finland for hosting
this fantastic event.
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Jul 16 08:39:08 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #255 - 11 msgs
References: <200207161121.g6GBLc5r004184@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <009301c22cbd$65e458a0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
here are the first web photos of Dan and his partner Jeff at the
ceremonies....
>Who won?
The official top five and photos of the awards ceremony are available on
the NCJ web site:
http://www.ncjweb.com/
I assume complete results will soon be available on the official WRTC 2002
web site.
>From k1ir at designet.com Tue Jul 16 09:16:40 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W7GG - thinking of you
Message-ID: <n3rhgxem6xm8eln.160720020816@designet-jsi>
Thanks to Ken's first-person account of your experience this weekend, I was
able to understand just a bit of what you must be going through. Sure hope you
emerge from this "ok".
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 16 10:09:28 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
References: <20020712213837.HVSX20539.fep06-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.110]>
<3D33A69D.9470A48E@cncnet.com>
Message-ID: <3D341B08.8BED670B@gte.net>
Bill wrote:
> Please tell us supporters of WRTC02 WHO WON the
> competition!
Here are the Top 5
1 N5TJ/K1TO
2 RA3AUU/RV1AW
3 DL2CC/DL6FBL
4 N6MJ/N2NL
5 KQ2M/W7WA
> Obviously there were some scoring problems, most
> notably with N6TJ and N6AA. PLEASE tell us why their
> score decreased as time passed; that should not be possible.
>From our man, K1TO:
"The N6TJ/N6AA score was inflated by TR and they finished about 15th."
> PLEASE tell us which teams were associated with which
> OJ callsigns!
K1TO/N5TJ were OJ3A. That's the only one I know of.
Ron, WD4AHZ
>From gm3woj at talk21.com Tue Jul 16 14:48:35 2002
From: gm3woj@talk21.com (Chris Tran GM3WOJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 results
Message-ID: <000301c22cc7$1f47abe0$6499fea9@chris.tranbtinternet.com>
Probably everyone will post this info., but the
final results + list of who was using which OJ callsign
is now at
http://www.wrtc2002.org/results.htm
73
Chris GM3WOJ
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 16 11:03:18 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC FINAL RESULTS
Message-ID: <3D3427A6.2B582239@gte.net>
THE FINAL RESULTS OF WRTC2002:
1. OJ3A N5TJ/K1TO 438/2782 = 1.629.798
2. OJ8E RA3AUU/RV1AW 426/2627 = 1.619.226
3. OJ2V DL2CC/DL6FBL 473/2468 = 1.608.673
4. OJ3R N6MJ/N2NL 436/2705 = 1.560.008
5. OJ8K KQ2M/W7WA 394/2816 = 1.479.470
6. OJ5A VE3EJ/VE7ZO 437/2635 = 1.473.127
7. OJ1M K5ZD/K1KI 457/2519 = 1.469.255
8. OJ6E UT4UZ/UT3UA 416/2637 = 1.468.064
9. OJ5W LY1DS/LY2TA 416/2638 = 1.459.744
10. OJ5M DK3GI/DL1IAO 440/2534 = 1.456.840
11. OJ6W OE2VEL/OE9MON 416/2560 = 1.436.448
12. OJ6C RW1AC/RW3QC 395/2776 = 1.414.100
13. OJ5U N6RT/N2NT 432/2435 = 1.412.640
14. OJ8W 9A9A/9A5E 373/2778 = 1.405.837
15. OJ7M SP3RBR/SP8NR 403/2650 = 1.402.440
16. OJ2F N6TJ/N6AA 397/2428 = 1.391.088
17. OJ3T RZ9UA/UA9MA 395/2708 = 1.390.795
18. OJ2H N5RZ/K2UA 410/2559 = 1.388.670
19. OJ8A K1AR/K1DG 432/2382 = 1.382.400
20. OJ2J HA1AG/HA3OV 408/2602 = 1.368.432
21. OJ3N N2IC/K6LL 405/2513 = 1.355.940
22. OJ4M K3LR/N9RV 366/2642 = 1.347.612
23. OJ3D W4AN/K4BAI 389/2530 = 1.347.107
24. OJ2Y UA2FZ/RW4WR 421/2389 = 1.331.623
25. OJ4N ON6TT/ON4WW 416/2260 = 1.301.248
26. OJ2Q YU7BW/YU1ZZ 381/2743 = 1.300.734
27. OJ6X OH1MDR/OH1MM 438/2267 = 1.293.414
28. OJ7C ES5MC/ES2RR 393/2505 = 1.288.254
29. OJ2Z G4PIQ/G4BWP 419/2342 = 1.277.950
30. OJ6N OK2FD/OK2ZU 379/2446 = 1.274.577
31. OJ1S SP7GIQ/SP2FAX 371/2498 = 1.234.317
32. OJ5T SM5IMO/SM3SGP 386/2381 = 1.214.742
33. OJ7X S50A/S59AA 379/2542 = 1.210.147
34. OJ4S JM1CAX/JE1JKL 392/2289 = 1.205.008
35. OJ7N YL2KL/YL3DW 382/2392 = 1.196.424
36. OJ3X 5B4ADA/5B4WN 386/2310 = 1.186.950
37. OJ7S N5KO/N1YC 389/2177 = 1.142.882
38. OJ1X K1ZM/N6ZZ 370/2354 = 1.139.230
39. OJ5E OH6EI/OH2XX 402/2059 = 1.131.630
40. OJ1F NT1N/AG9A 397/2101 = 1.105.645
41. OJ5Z F6FGZ/F5NLY 375/2016 = 1.086.750
42. OJ8N YT1AD/YU7NU 359/2335 = 1.069.820
43. OJ7W UA9BA/RN9AO 368/2168 = 1.052.480
44. OJ6K VE7SV/VE7AHA 351/2257 = 1.045.980
45. OJ4A DJ6QT/DL2OBF 347/2166 = 1.005.259
46. OJ1C LU7DW/LU1FAM 322/2335 = 986.930
47. OJ7A PP5JR/PY1KN 333/2263 = 978.021
48. OJ1N EA3AIR/EA3KU 340/2140 = 954.380
49. OJ8L S56M/S57AL 345/1920 = 883.545
50. OJ1W ZS6EZ/ZS4TX 369/1723 = 880.065
51. OJ6Y IK2QEI/I4UFH 339/1921 = 878.349
52. OJ4W UN9LW/UN7LAN 297/1893 = 699.732
Some software used by teams did not count multipliers correctly.
This is the reason why some claimed scores were changed just after
the contest on the scoreboard.
>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Tue Jul 16 15:16:55 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 FINAL RESULTS
Message-ID: <01c22cba$4b3b1e60$LocalHost@default>
The final results of WRTC2002 can be found at www.wrtc2002.org
There'll be more writeups coming up in the near future.
73 Ari, OH1EH
>From n2mg at eham.net Tue Jul 16 12:31:32 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
Message-ID: <200207161431.g6GEVV5r006366@contesting.com>
That page only shows the team mates' calls.
Try this
http://www.wrtc2002.org/results.htm
-Mike N2MG
The following me
ssage was sent by "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org> on Mon, 15 Jul 2002
22:39:15 -0500.
>
> What AHZ asked for was who was who among the OJ calls...
>
> Is this what you are after, Jim....
>
> http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/pos.pl?hpng=WRTC
>
> 73,
> dale, kg5u
>
> >
> > In a message dated 7/15/2002 6:55:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > wd4ahz@gte.net
> > writes:
> >
> >
> > > it's now after 1:30 AM in OH land ... 7 1/2 hours after the
> > Awards Dinner.
> > >
> > > Who won?
> > >
> >
> >
> > Of all the people in the world, I thought you guys in Florida would
> > understand having to wait... and wait... and wait... for the
> > results from a
> > close contest. :-)
> >
> > Only 36 and 2/3 days to go.
> >
> >
> > Jim K8MR
> >
> > (Also waiting to hear)
> >
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>From ken.knopp at verizon.net Tue Jul 16 08:58:25 2002
From: ken.knopp@verizon.net (Ken K7ZUM)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] correction on w7gg's address, three rivers fire
Message-ID: <001601c22cd9$3d05a260$6401a8c0@dslverizon.net>
I have been corrected on W7GG'S e-mail address,
if anybody would like to send a note to Bob about the three rivers fire and his
contest station
the correct address is bob.wruble@verizon.net
was late sunday evening, and I was well pooped out from the weekend experience
!!
73.... Ken.... K7ZUM
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>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Tue Jul 16 16:40:15 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Results - Shortened Version
Message-ID: <01c22cc5$ef48cba0$LocalHost@default>
THE FINAL RESULTS OF WRTC2002:
1. OJ3A N5TJ/K1TO 438/2782 = 1.629.798
2. OJ8E RA3AUU/RV1AW 426/2627 = 1.619.226
3. OJ2V DL2CC/DL6FBL 473/2468 = 1.608.673
4. OJ3R N6MJ/N2NL 436/2705 = 1.560.008
5. OJ8K KQ2M/W7WA 394/2816 = 1.479.470
6. OJ5A VE3EJ/VE7ZO 437/2635 = 1.473.127
7. OJ1M K5ZD/K1KI 457/2519 = 1.469.255
8. OJ6E UT4UZ/UT3UA 416/2637 = 1.468.064
9. OJ5W LY1DS/LY2TA 416/2638 = 1.459.744
10.OJ5M DK3GI/DL1IAO 440/2534 = 1456.840
11.OJ6W OE2VEL/OE9MON 416/2560 = 1.436.448
12.OJ6C RW1AC/RW3QC 395/2776 = 1.414.100
13.OJ5U N6RT/N2NT 432/2435 = 1.412.640
14.OJ8W 9A9A/9A5E 373/2778 = 1.405.837
15.OJ7M SP3RBR/SP8NR 403/2650 = 1.402.440
16.OJ2F N6TJ/N6AA 397/2428 = 1.391.088
17.OJ3T RZ9UA/UA9MA 395/2708 = 1.390.795
18.OJ2H N5RZ/K2UA 410/2559 = 1.388.670
19.OJ8A K1AR/K1DG 432/2382 = 1.382.400
20.OJ2J HA1AG/HA3OV 408/2602 = 1.368.432
21.OJ3N N2IC/K6LL 405/2513 = 1.355.940
22.OJ4M K3LR/N9RV 366/2642 = 1.347.612
23.OJ3D W4AN/K4BAI 389/2530 = 1.347.107
24.OJ2Y UA2FZ/RW4WR 421/2389 = 1.331.623
25.OJ4N ON6TT/ON4WW 416/2260 = 1.301.248
26.OJ2Q YU7BW/YU1ZZ 381/2743 = 1.300.734
27.OJ6X OH1MDR/OH1MM 438/2267 = 1.293.414
28.OJ7C ES5MC/ES2RR 393/2505 = 1.288.254
29.OJ2Z G4PIQ/G4BWP 419/2342 = 1.277.950
30.OJ6N OK2FD/OK2ZU 379/2446 = 1.274.577
31.OJ1S SP7GIQ/SP2FAX 371/2498 = 1.234.317
32.OJ5T SM5IMO/SM3SGP 386/2381 = 1.214.742
33.OJ7X S50A/S59AA 379/2542 = 1.210.147
34.OJ4S JM1CAX/JE1JKL 392/2289 = 1.205.008
35.OJ7N YL2KL/YL3DW 382/2392 = 1.196.424
36.OJ3X 5B4ADA/5B4WN 386/2310 = 1.186.950
37.OJ7S N5KO/N1YC 389/2177 = 1.142.882
38.OJ1X K1ZM/N6ZZ 370/2354 = 1.139.230
39.OJ5E OH6EI/OH2XX 402/2059 = 1.131.630
40.OJ1F NT1N/AG9A 397/2101 = 1.105.645
41.OJ5Z F6FGZ/F5NLY 375/2016 = 1.086.750
42.OJ8N YT1AD/YU7NU 359/2335 = 1.069.820
43.OJ7W UA9BA/RN9AO 368/2168 = 1.052.480
44.OJ6K VE7SV/VE7AHA 351/2257 = 1.045.980
45.OJ4A DJ6QT/DL2OBF 347/2166 = 1.005.259
46.OJ1C LU7DW/LU1FAM 322/2335 = 986.930
47.OJ7A PP5JR/PY1KN 333/2263 = 978.021
48.OJ1N EA3AIR/EA3KU 340/2140 = 954.380
49.OJ8L S56M/S57AL 345/1920 = 883.545
50.OJ1W ZS6EZ/ZS4TX 369/1723 = 880.065
51.OJ6Y IK2QEI/I4UFH 339/1921 = 878.349
52.OJ4W UN9LW/UN7LAN 297/1893 = 699.732
Some softwares used by teams did not count multipliers correctly.
This is the reason why some claimed scores were changed just after
the contest on the scoreboard.
Full WRTC2002 score sheet in Excel-format is available at
www.wrtc2002.org
Ari, OH1EH
>From slazar19 at sgi.net Tue Jul 16 13:21:10 2002
From: slazar19@sgi.net (Spencer Lazar)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NEW/REVISED WRTC 2002 Final Scores
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20020716122110.0084c220@mail.stargate.net>
Commissioner Bud Selig of WRTC 2002 has declared the contest a tie
because all the contestants had run out of qso's.
Spike W9XR
>From dave at egh.com Tue Jul 16 13:28:21 2002
From: dave@egh.com (David Clemons)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Choice of Calls
Message-ID: <00A1104C.BC96C113.44@egh.com>
I'm sure you all noticed that the WRTC2002 hosts had OJ callsigns
assigned, which was the first time they were used in amateur radio
history. Did anyone else figure out why the OJ block was used?
Hints:
- it was done to honor a very famous contester, who originally
cq'ed from the center of US DX Contesting (New England!)
- it was done to honor one of the original organizers of a
very famous state qso party (only %%% more days until the FQP!)
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
>From N5RP at pdq.net Tue Jul 16 12:39:59 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 160 Contest stuff
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020716113915.00b40bf0@pop.pdq.net>
http://www.eham.net/classifieds/detail/55213
http://www.eham.net/classifieds/detail/55212
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From N5RP at pdq.net Tue Jul 16 12:52:28 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Choice of Calls
In-Reply-To: <00A1104C.BC96C113.44@egh.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020716115146.00b86d68@pop.pdq.net>
At 12:28 7/16/2002 -0400, David Clemons wrote:
> I'm sure you all noticed that the WRTC2002 hosts had OJ callsigns
> assigned, which was the first time they were used in amateur radio
> history. Did anyone else figure out why the OJ block was used?
========================>
Ops wore leather gloves that were too tight.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 16 11:15:13 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207161715.g6GHFDX12521@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW LP
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW QRP
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB LP
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 16 11:16:03 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207161716.g6GHG3O12530@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA M/S HP
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW LP
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed HP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB HP
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB LP
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
Operators:
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 16 11:21:29 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207161721.g6GHLTs12558@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
VE5RI 527 1214 41 40 24 818,424
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
VE7AVV 0 809 0 40 15 198,960 BCDX Club
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
K4BAI 181 22 0 0 27,632 SECC
K1GU 118 0 28 0 4 24,920 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE5SF 416 562 39 39 18 579,696
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VA6RA 1 180 1 24 39,050
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VA3WN 142 50 13 10 6 26,542
W0ETT 100 2 25 1 7 21,632 Grand Mesa
VE3ANX 116 2 23 1 2 18,240
W1TO 67 12 15 5 12,680 YCCC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
N4WSM 0 29 0 13 4,550 TCG
W4NZ 32 3 9 2 3,300
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
VE3XAX 334 114 37 24 208,864 U-VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
VE3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 56 41 6 9 12 9,870
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From nt5c at texas.net Tue Jul 16 14:06:20 2002
From: nt5c@texas.net (John Warren)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: WRTC2002 Choice of Calls
In-Reply-To: <00A1104C.BC96C113.44@egh.com>
References: <00A1104C.BC96C113.44@egh.com>
Message-ID: <p04330101b95a1ca79f03@EIM-Mac-1.0.7>
>Did anyone else figure out why the OJ block was used?
To honor the man who made the name Hertz famous?
John, NT5C.
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Tue Jul 16 19:10:19 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020716171019.01344d50@pop.vnet.net>
In thinking about the WRTC 2002, the Finns certainly
deserve our thanks for making the playing field as level as
it has ever been by using identical antennas at the same height
over flat terrain within a limited area of Finland. From what
I understand of prior WRTC's, the 2002 edition was a major advance.
However, I've heard of at least one instance of severe
antenna interaction and problems with local power line QRN. Noticing
how poorly some of the excellent teams did in the standings, I cannot
help but believe that there may have been more than one case of
antenna interaction problems at specific sites.
Here are a few thoughts for the 2004 sponsor assuming
someone steps up to the plate. First, repeat the Finns' excellent
idea of identical antennas over flat terrain at the same height within
a limited geographic area, but remove antenna interaction and local
line noise problems from the equation.
How to do this?
1. Locate 50 stations along a remote flat seacoast a set distance
from high tide levels every mile along a 50 mile stretch of isolated
beach. During the summertime, comfort should not be much of a
problem due to temperature. Tents, generators, porta-potties and
coolers could provide what most of us need to survive a 24 hour contest.
We do it all the time in Field Day don't we?
2. Use identical multiband verticals with identical radial systems.
These are simple, inexpensive, easy to erect, and should work very
well near salt water.
3. Use small <1KW generators like the VP8THU/VP8GEO team used...
possibly backed up by UPS in case a referee temporarily forgets to
refuel.
Something like this should remove the variables of antenna
interaction and local power line noise, and I suspect there are
areas (like National Seashores in the US) that are not too far
removed from civilization for other necessary parts of the WRTC
(administrative meetings, awards dinners, etc.).
Something to think about while WRTC is fresh in our minds and
as clubs think about sponsoring the next WRTC in 2004.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From thompson at mindspring.com Tue Jul 16 16:40:50 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
Message-ID: <001f01c22d00$b43642a0$3c1256d1@default>
It seems that with all the effort to provide similar transceiver, location,
and antennas that the same software would be used. And the software should
be tested beforehand.
I always run several different logs through my CQ 160 software each year to
assure its checking OK and get rid of bugs. Writelog authors and
supporters including K9JY say that for each contest you should always set up
a test log and give it a spin before the contest. With N6AA, K5ZD and other
logging experts on hand this should have been fundamental.
I am also concerned that the address for e-mail logs filled up and kicked
back some logs.
Otherwise congratulations to the contestants and sponsors.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From n2mg at eham.net Tue Jul 16 18:46:31 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
Message-ID: <200207162046.g6GKkU5r012628@contesting.com>
I don't think I'd want to be the one to tell a WRTC competitor who has
used CT for 10 years that he has to learn TRLog or SuperDuper or
whatever. I believe it's pretty much the same reasoning behind letting
the ops choose their own radios.
But I agree that the software should have been tested...alas. It'll be
interesting to see just what the bug was.
-Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
on Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:40:50 -0400.
> It seems that with all the effort to provide similar transceiver, location,
> and antennas that the same software would be used. And the software should
> be tested beforehand.
>
> I always run several different logs through my CQ 160 software each year to
> assure its checking OK and get rid of bugs. Writelog authors and
> supporters including K9JY say that for each contest you should always set up
> a test log and give it a spin before the contest. With N6AA, K5ZD and other
> logging experts on hand this should have been fundamental.
>
> I am also concerned that the address for e-mail logs filled up and kicked
> back some logs.
>
> Otherwise congratulations to the contestants and sponsors.
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Wed Jul 17 02:39:30 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DD7@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Winners N5TJ & K1TO
Second RA3AUU & RV1AW
Third DL6FBL & DL2CC
AA & TJ lost a lot from their score, I do not
have details of the reasons, but understanding
is other one used caps lock and the other did not
so some multis were counted twice.
73,
Jukka
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Bill [mailto:k6km@cncnet.com]
> Sent: 16 July, 2002 07:53
> To: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi
> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
>
>
>
> Hei OH-land!
>
> What is happening there?
>
> Please tell us supporters of WRTC02 WHO WON the
> competition!
>
> Obviously there were some scoring problems, most
> notably with N6TJ and N6AA. PLEASE tell us why their
> score decreased as time passed; that should not be possible.
>
> PLEASE tell us why the N5KO/9V1YC score went
> flat in the last few hours.
>
> PLEASE tell us which teams were associated with which
> OJ callsigns!
>
> PLEASE tell us what's going on. To me, the delay in
> reporting results means that POLITICS is coming in
> to play and POLITICS may be more meaningful than
> PERFORMANCE in determing the final results.
>
> PLEASE prove me wrong.
>
> As any one might expect, Team Finland did a wonderful
> job preparing for and hosting WRTC 2002. Thank you
> for that. But WHY have you kept the world in ignorance
> as to the results?
>
> PLEASE TELL US WOT's UP!
>
> Bill K6KM
> also OH2/K6KM and OH0/K6KM
>
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>From 107770.3462 at compuserve.com Tue Jul 16 23:02:36 2002
From: 107770.3462@compuserve.com (James P. Cassidy)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W7GG
Message-ID: <200207162202_MC3-1-6AF-B3EF@compuserve.com>
Just heard that W7GGs buildings were spared in the fire. So just a matter
of putting the station back together.
73 Jim KI7Y
>From llindblom at juno.com Wed Jul 17 03:14:15 2002
From: llindblom@juno.com (Larry L Lindblom)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [TCG] NAQP RTTY - Its Almost Here
Message-ID: <20020717.021415.-1035393.1.LLindblom@juno.com>
Operator are standing by to sign you on to a TCG team for NAQP RTTY. The
event starts this Saturday at 1800 UTC so don't hesitate. Join with us
be you going for broke or only able to play for a few hours. Either way
I'd love to sign you up for a team. For those who want a big score that
is our goal for those that just want to have fun that is also our goal.
And, if you can run a big score and have fun we are 100% in agreement.
Life is too short not to have fun, I know that after a couple of major
illnesses.
Those signed on so far include:
K4GKM
K4RO
W4BCG
N1NB
KE4OAR
N2WK
W5CTV
AI9T
VE9DX
W4OX
W4LC
As you can see there is plenty of room for more. We'll have as many
teams as we can. Come on guys ring those phones off of the wall.
If you emailed me and don't see your call listed, send me another email
as I might of fat fingered it into the trash by mistake.
W0ETC in IA
>From K9GY at K9GY.com Wed Jul 17 04:19:05 2002
From: K9GY@K9GY.com (Eric K9GY)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WAE CW - Get Ready!
Message-ID: <001b01c22d40$bbd43a40$444d180a@9byjx01>
The WAE CW is almost here!
Saturday, 0000z August 10 until Sunday, 2359z August 11th
http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/fedcw.htm
>> ...seven essential changes to the current rules
>> 1. Additional multipliers for EU participants
>> 2. Splitting of the Single OP category into High and Low Power classes
>> 3. Markup of the "unassisted" participants
>> 4. Abolishing the 10-minute QSY rule for Single OPs
>> 5. Non-ambiguous definition of the Multi Single operation
>> 6. Credit for stations outside the contest
>> 7. SWL Category
2001 WAE Club winners (all three modes):
>> Europe: Bavarian Contest Club (DL) 20,380,025
>> Non-Europe: Frankford Radio Club (W3) 17,246,398
Catch the excitement during WAE CW 2002!
73, Eric
>From K9GY at K9GY.com Wed Jul 17 04:48:56 2002
From: K9GY@K9GY.com (Eric K9GY)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WAE CW - S/O USA "Millionaires"
Message-ID: <004001c22d44$e78563e0$444d180a@9byjx01>
Six new additions to the USA S/O WAE CW millionaires!
Yr Call Total Score Qs QTCs Mults
2001 N2NC 1,605,344 1,810 1,726 454
1996 KE2PF 1,499,998 1,706 1,680 443
2001 N4AF 1,442,408 1,690 1,566 443
2001 K3WW 1,328,392 1,579 1,554 424
1996 K1JKS 1,297,728 1,503 1,501 432
------------------------------------------------------
2001 K3NM 1,281,721 1,535 1,524 419 op-LU9AY
2001 K5KG 1,183,217 1,389 1,382 427
2001 AA3B 1,182,384 1,446 1,410 414
1997 KQ2M 1,137,664 1,416 1,400 404
1981 K1GQ 1,128,330 1,393 1,393 405
------------------------------------------------------
1982 W1ZM 1,112,889 1,361 1,360 409
1983 KC1F 1,088,960 1,328 1,328 410
1997 N1BB 1,071,900 1,350 1,350 397
1979 K1PR 1,051,264 1,379 1,373 382
1981 W1ZM 1,041,913 1,420 1,419 367
------------------------------------------------------
1982 KC1F 1,034,838 1,355 1,354 382
1999 W4MYA 1,014,468 1,404 1,383 364
17 USA S/O entries made it over the million mark since 1974.
Become RADIO-ACTIVE in WAE CW 2002!
http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/fedcw.htm
>From ua3ap at mail.ru Wed Jul 17 09:00:11 2002
From: ua3ap@mail.ru (Sergei Kulyov)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Early bird lottery/log confirmation
Message-ID: <E17Ufz1-0009Qu-00@f13.mail.ru>
Hello to everybody
I have couple questions regarding the WRTC-2002 results for non-WRTC
participants.
1. Any idea when the results of "Early bird" lottery will be on the WEB?
2. As others I haven't got the confirmation from the logs@wrtc2002.org address
that my log arrived. Will they publish the list of received logs?
Anyway it was a big pleasure to work the WRTC guys. Made 265 QSO with OJs.
73 es GL, Sergei - UA3AP
>From harry at oh6yf.com Wed Jul 17 10:11:32 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Some new WRTC Photos & Pileup Downloads
References: <200207162202_MC3-1-6AF-B3EF@compuserve.com>
Message-ID: <000601c22d58$cc67ec90$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hello!
There are now some new photos from WRTC 2002 at:
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
You can also find WRTC Pileup recordings in MP3 format there.
73 de Harry OH6YF
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
>From k3ft at erols.com Wed Jul 17 05:57:18 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MD-DC QSO party 10 - 11 August 2002
Message-ID: <3D353F7E.6FC7@erols.com>
MD/DC QSO party is upcoming 10-11 August 2002. See website for Antietam
Radio Assocition W3CWC for details. Site can be found doing search for
W3CWC, MDC QSO PARTY, Antietam Radio Association.
Nice event.. special award for working all 25 MD/DC counties/Baltimore
City. Not an 'iron man' event. Runs from noon local Saturday till
midnight local Saturday and noon local Sunday until 8pm local Sunday.
73
Chuck K3FT
It's same weekend as WAE so you can combine both and have a REALLY good
time!
>From k3ft at erols.com Wed Jul 17 06:08:07 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MDC QSO party website URL
Message-ID: <3D354207.739F@erols.com>
Found it. Can be reached at http://www.w3cwc.org/funcontest.htm
73
Chuck K3FT
>From N5RP at pdq.net Wed Jul 17 08:28:58 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Early Bird Prizes
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020717072744.00b3fec0@pop.pdq.net>
Just received my E-mail notification of my winning an early bird log
submittal prize.
E-mail went to the address I used for submittal, so I was not even aware of
my winning.
WOW !
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Wed Jul 17 09:16:44 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020716171019.01344d50@pop.vnet.net>; from Bill Tippett
on Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 06:10:19PM +0100
References: <1.5.4.32.20020716171019.01344d50@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <20020717081644.D23499@cs.utexas.edu>
On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 06:10:19PM +0100, Bill Tippett wrote:
> In thinking about the WRTC 2002, the Finns certainly
> deserve our thanks for making the playing field as level as
> it has ever been by using identical antennas at the same height
> over flat terrain within a limited area of Finland. From what
> I understand of prior WRTC's, the 2002 edition was a major advance.
>
> However, I've heard of at least one instance of severe
> antenna interaction and problems with local power line QRN. Noticing
> how poorly some of the excellent teams did in the standings, I cannot
> help but believe that there may have been more than one case of
> antenna interaction problems at specific sites.
>
> Here are a few thoughts for the 2004 sponsor assuming
> someone steps up to the plate. First, repeat the Finns' excellent
> idea of identical antennas over flat terrain at the same height within
> a limited geographic area, but remove antenna interaction and local
> line noise problems from the equation.
>
> How to do this?
>
> 1. Locate 50 stations along a remote flat seacoast a set distance
> from high tide levels every mile along a 50 mile stretch of isolated
> beach. During the summertime, comfort should not be much of a
> problem due to temperature. Tents, generators, porta-potties and
> coolers could provide what most of us need to survive a 24 hour contest.
> We do it all the time in Field Day don't we?
>
> 2. Use identical multiband verticals with identical radial systems.
> These are simple, inexpensive, easy to erect, and should work very
> well near salt water.
>
> 3. Use small <1KW generators like the VP8THU/VP8GEO team used...
> possibly backed up by UPS in case a referee temporarily forgets to
> refuel.
Some of us at W1AW/5 tossed around very similar ideas while we were on
standby to operate. One place this could be done is Padre Island
National Seashore on the Gulf coast of Texas. I'm sure there are
places in Florida and the barrier islands of North Carolina that
would work, too.
Drawbacks:
* Random beach-goers walking into RF fields, touching the antennas, etc.
* At least on Padre, there's a lot of vehicle traffic on the beach -
which means ignition noise.
* Texas, Florida, and the Carolinas are all subject to summer thunderstorms
and tropical rains.
* There would be concern about the heat giving the USA and SA operators
an unfair advantage over EU operators.
In any event, I think Florida would make a great host site - the terrain
across the state is very flat, you could robably find enough air-conditioned
operating sites in a 50 kilometer radius, and the Florida Contest Group is
fairly active and involved.
Other places that I think would be great:
* Japan (although, the way things are going, it wouldn't surprise me if
next year there were no Japanese teams invited at all.)
* Australia
* SMC country
--
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Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From swca at swbell.net Wed Jul 17 10:33:53 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
References: <001f01c22d00$b43642a0$3c1256d1@default>
Message-ID: <053701c22d9e$fc6f4af0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Dave, K4JRB wrote:
>It seems that with all the effort to
>provide similar transceiver, location,
>and antennas that the same software
>would be used.
No effort was made to "provide similar transceivers," only antennas,
supports and rotators. The competitors were required by the rules to
provide their own radios. Likewise, they were required to provide PCs and
the software of their own choice.
>From what I understand, the sponsors were aware of the scoring problem by
the start of the contest, but they elected to post the inaccurate real-time
scores. Perhaps, they could have responded differently to this. That's
20/20 hindsight now.
>And the software should
>be tested beforehand.
The software was tested. Nevertheless the problem was not detected until
everyone was in too deep. It is just unfortunate, that's all. I'm sure
everyone is learning a lot from this first-time experience of publishing
scores-in-progress during a contest.
I agree with Dave when he says "congratulations to the contestants and
sponsors" for sure! This was the best WRTC yet.
Mark, N5OT
>From frenaye at pcnet.com Wed Jul 17 12:52:48 2002
From: frenaye@pcnet.com (Tom Frenaye)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: [NEWSVHF] ARRL Claimed scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020717114713.025b4d00@204.213.232.3 >
Thought this would be of interest. Talked to N1ND - he says the listing of
logs received will show claimed scores for all ARRL contests - but only after
the log submission deadline has passed.
-- Tom
>To: newsvhf@mailman.qth.net
>From: Ron Klimas WZ1V <wz1v@ntplx.net>
>Subject: [NEWSVHF] ARRL Claimed scores
>Sender: newsvhf-admin@mailman.qth.net
>
>Something new, Reports from the Contest Log Robot extracts claimed scores,
>check out the ones for June:
>http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
>
>-73, Ron WZ1V
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
e-mail: frenaye@pcnet.com YCCC --> http://www.yccc.org/
Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Wed Jul 17 09:59:40 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (Bob Wruble)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W7GG/IARU/ Fire
Message-ID: <00c201c22daa$f5926ee0$eefd3d04@bobhome>
Many of you have sent me notes after reading Ken's (K7ZUM) account of our
adventuire during the IARU test. Thanks to all for their thots and concerns.
In the end my radio QTH was spared by the fast moving forest fire that hit
our area in Centrsl Oregon last Saturday during the IARU test. As in most
forest fires wind speed and direction plays a big role in who is hit or missed.
As Ken pointed out we were told to evacuate Saturday afternoon right in the
middle of the IARU event. At that time it looked like we were in for it but
were
spared. I'm going back to the radio QTH this weekend to start re setting up
the station.
Once again thanks to all for their kind wishes,
de Bob, W7GG, Ai7b, WW7OR
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>From n2nl at yahoo.com Wed Jul 17 10:29:53 2002
From: n2nl@yahoo.com (David Mueller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <20020717081644.D23499@cs.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <20020717162953.65549.qmail@web21402.mail.yahoo.com>
K1TO, WC4E and myself were approached several times in
Finland about the possibility of having the next WRTC
in Florida. Although it would be easy to have
identical stations due to the flat terrain, the
biggest problem in July is the weather. Not only can
it be oppressivly hot to some of the competitors,
there are the thunderstorms which are a daily
occurance this time of year. The percent chance of
having a thunderstorm during the contest probably
exceeds 75%. Required off time could be an option,
however there are times these storms last for hours
and hours which could wipe out a team's chances.
The word from K7LXC at the award dinner were that
there were possible hosts from 4 continents (didn't
specify beyond that) for the next one which most
likely will be held in 2006.
73, Dave N2NL
--- "Kenneth E. Harker" <kharker@cs.utexas.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 06:10:19PM +0100, Bill
> Tippett wrote:
> > In thinking about the WRTC 2002, the Finns
> certainly
> > deserve our thanks for making the playing field as
> level as
> > it has ever been by using identical antennas at
> the same height
> > over flat terrain within a limited area of
> Finland. From what
> > I understand of prior WRTC's, the 2002 edition was
> a major advance.
> >
> > However, I've heard of at least one
> instance of severe
> > antenna interaction and problems with local power
> line QRN. Noticing
> > how poorly some of the excellent teams did in the
> standings, I cannot
> > help but believe that there may have been more
> than one case of
> > antenna interaction problems at specific sites.
> >
> > Here are a few thoughts for the 2004
> sponsor assuming
> > someone steps up to the plate. First, repeat the
> Finns' excellent
> > idea of identical antennas over flat terrain at
> the same height within
> > a limited geographic area, but remove antenna
> interaction and local
> > line noise problems from the equation.
> >
> > How to do this?
> >
> > 1. Locate 50 stations along a remote flat
> seacoast a set distance
> > from high tide levels every mile along a 50 mile
> stretch of isolated
> > beach. During the summertime, comfort should not
> be much of a
> > problem due to temperature. Tents, generators,
> porta-potties and
> > coolers could provide what most of us need to
> survive a 24 hour contest.
> > We do it all the time in Field Day don't we?
> >
> > 2. Use identical multiband verticals with
> identical radial systems.
> > These are simple, inexpensive, easy to erect, and
> should work very
> > well near salt water.
> >
> > 3. Use small <1KW generators like the
> VP8THU/VP8GEO team used...
> > possibly backed up by UPS in case a referee
> temporarily forgets to
> > refuel.
>
> Some of us at W1AW/5 tossed around very similar
> ideas while we were on
> standby to operate. One place this could be done is
> Padre Island
> National Seashore on the Gulf coast of Texas. I'm
> sure there are
> places in Florida and the barrier islands of North
> Carolina that
> would work, too.
>
> Drawbacks:
>
> * Random beach-goers walking into RF fields,
> touching the antennas, etc.
> * At least on Padre, there's a lot of vehicle
> traffic on the beach -
> which means ignition noise.
> * Texas, Florida, and the Carolinas are all subject
> to summer thunderstorms
> and tropical rains.
> * There would be concern about the heat giving the
> USA and SA operators
> an unfair advantage over EU operators.
>
>
> In any event, I think Florida would make a great
> host site - the terrain
> across the state is very flat, you could robably
> find enough air-conditioned
> operating sites in a 50 kilometer radius, and the
> Florida Contest Group is
> fairly active and involved.
>
> Other places that I think would be great:
>
> * Japan (although, the way things are going, it
> wouldn't surprise me if
> next year there were no Japanese teams
> invited at all.)
>
> * Australia
>
> * SMC country
>
> --
>
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> Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto"
> kharker@cs.utexas.edu
> University of Texas at Austin
> Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
> Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central
> Texas DX & Contest Club
> Taylor Hall TAY 2.124
> Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
> Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA
> http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From fgrisafi at tin.it Wed Jul 17 19:41:51 2002
From: fgrisafi@tin.it (IT9GSF Fabio Grisafi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IG9A 2002 OP WANTED CQWW 2002
Message-ID: <PMELJIDIKLOKPBNDOFIOCEEFDCAA.fgrisafi@tin.it>
I am looking for a friend to take part in the coming CQWW Contests.
IG9A will be not active as M/M this year but we hope to be QRV all bands
with
Single Op entries.
There is space for a SO/80 meters or SO/160 meters entry for the SSB Contest
and for
a SO/All Band in the CW Contest.
I will operate SO/All band in the SSB Contest and SO/80 in the CW.
It is requested to be in Lampedusa from Oct21 to Oct28 and from Nov21 to
Nov26.
Both periods QRV is a must as I am looking for help to erect antennas and to
take them
down in November.
Goals are:
First place 80 meters SSB with All Time record setting.
One of the first 3 place for SO/ALL SSB.
First place 80 meters CW with All Time record setting.
One of the first 3 place for SO/ALL CW.
Equipments:
We need only a TRX, a rotator and a two elements 40 mts Yagi to complete two
stations.
First station (All bands):
Location: highest point in the island near TV repeater (NO TVI);
KT34XA on a 18 mts tower;
6 el. 15 mts + 5 el. 10 mts Yagi on the second 18 mts aluminum tower;
5 el. 20 mts + 2 el. 40 mts Yagi on the third 18 mts aluminum tower;
80 meters sloopers, 160 mts dipole and sloopers from a 25 meters TV
broadcast tower;
Beverages to W and NW (No other directions possible).
Second station (80 and/or 160 meters):
Location: previous M/M QTH in the north side of the island over a 60 meter
cliff;
Quarter wave vertical with >120 radials;
Several Beverages;
If you are interested please e-mail me directly: fgrisafi@tin.it
73 de Fabio, IT9GSF (One of IG9A 1994-2001).
>From kl7ra at blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov Wed Jul 17 21:51:44 2002
From: kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov (KL7RA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <006a01c22e16$d1e502c0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
>> Here are a few thoughts for the 2004 sponsor assuming
>> someone steps up to the plate. First, repeat the Finns' excellent
>> idea of identical antennas over flat terrain at the same height within
>> a limited geographic area, but remove antenna interaction and local
>> line noise problems from the equation.
>>
>> How to do this?
>>
>> 1. Locate 50 stations along a remote flat seacoast a set distance
>> from high tide levels every mile along a 50 mile stretch of isolated
>> beach.
Or small ships at sea spaced out over some distance, but the cost would
be too much.
I had a great time working the OJ's and found they would pick my call out
very quickly. Conditions here in Alaska were excellent, best I have heard
in years which is odd for July. All the OJ stations usually had the same
signal strength but I also noticed some would have a huge pile and others
not, strange.
Now that's it's over and the contest world has to agree that Dan and Jeff are
indeed the best, I have some questions about the rules the Finns used. Maybe
they could explain to me and the next possible WRTC rule's committee their
logic or thinking.
-- CW and SSB count the same points and no additional multiplier for a second
band mode QSO.
This rule prevents any advantage for a team with equal skills in both
modes.
A team that can do both modes well should be rewarded but this rule says
that a SSB team only can also compete. Is this what we want?
-- Radio A only makes the QSO.
-- Op B can't make QSOs.
-- Op A can not touch radio B
This rule prevents any advantage for a team that can work well together. Two
ops that can read each other's mind and can operate as a team should be
rewarded, but these rules clearly take that away. I assume these rules were
to prevent the "long time together" teams from swamping the playing field,
but again, is this what we want?
73 Rich KL7RA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Jul 17 11:20:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 17Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207171720.g6HHKC613736@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 17Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW LP
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW QRP
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 k 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
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NA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
FM5GU 0 1492 99 9 609,246
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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NA SO SSB LP
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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NA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Jul 17 11:20:58 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 17Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207171720.g6HHKwg13745@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 17Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA M/S HP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 8927 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW LP
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed HP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB HP
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From harry at oh6yf.com Wed Jul 17 21:29:10 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Some new WRTC Photos & Pileup Downloads
References: <200207162202_MC3-1-6AF-B3EF@compuserve.com>
<000601c22d58$cc67ec90$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Message-ID: <001a01c22db7$7692ea40$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hi!
I put the rest of the photos of WRTC 2002 to
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
I will still add some more text later but now I have to drive to the
airport.
CU!
Best 73,
Harry
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
>From n2mg at eham.net Wed Jul 17 16:05:09 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. I only
dabbled in the contest, but watching the spots and listening to the
activity at my QTH, the OJ activity seemed far greater on CW than SSB.
In fact, I worked all 52 OJ calls, 48 of them on 20CW, but only 6 or so
on 20SSB.
-Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by "KL7RA" <kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov> on
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:51:44 -0800.
> -- CW and SSB count the same points and no additional multiplier for a second
> band mode QSO.
> This rule prevents any advantage for a team with equal skills in both
> modes.
> A team that can do both modes well should be rewarded but this rule says
> that a SSB team only can also compete. Is this what we want?
>From w5iz at yahoo.com Wed Jul 17 12:42:54 2002
From: w5iz@yahoo.com (Al Baker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
Message-ID: <20020717184254.10886.qmail@web13908.mail.yahoo.com>
Should be in P5. Great exposure to the potential P5
hams and give us all new band countries.
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>From hurl8957 at uidaho.edu Wed Jul 17 13:25:07 2002
From: hurl8957@uidaho.edu (Christopher Hurlbut)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC and IARU
Message-ID: <396620.1026933907814.JavaMail.cpadmin@pipeline.csrv.uidaho.edu>
I hope the next WRTC in 2006 is in a tropical place! Conditions are going to
be horrible I'm sure.
The northern latitudes seemed to luck out this year, as conditions were much
better than normal.
Of course the CW ops are going to do better... everyone knows CW is better than
Fone. :)
-Chris KL9A
http://www.kl7g.org/kl9a <--new IARU sound files
kl9a@qsl.net
>From kl7ra at blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov Thu Jul 18 01:29:24 2002
From: kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov (KL7RA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
>Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
>believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. ///snip
>-Mike N2MG
You're probably right Mike, but during the last few hours of the test
their SSB rates were around five a minute, 300 hour, or more and
I was having some difficulty cracking their ssb piles. The usual
thinking is to double the points for CW and the Finns decided not
to do this.
My thinking is a super ssb op would have some advantage over the
CW op simply because he could go faster, there are more ssb stations
on and more mults. When the rate falls due 100 watts/ low antenna, you
change bands.
The real answer is probably something like it doesn't matter because
no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the strategy at this
level of competition is simply run best rate for score. Having to balance
between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not necessary,
Rich KL7RA
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Wed Jul 17 18:27:56 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>; from
KL7RA on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 12:29:24AM -0800
References: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <20020717172756.S24221@cs.utexas.edu>
On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 12:29:24AM -0800, KL7RA wrote:
> >Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
> >believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. ///snip
>
> >-Mike N2MG
>
> You're probably right Mike, but during the last few hours of the test
> their SSB rates were around five a minute, 300 hour, or more and
> I was having some difficulty cracking their ssb piles. The usual
> thinking is to double the points for CW and the Finns decided not
> to do this.
Doubling the points for CW would be terrible. The WRTC stations
already make more CW QSOs than phone QSOs. Give them double points,
and they'd spend substantially less time on phone than they already do.
> My thinking is a super ssb op would have some advantage over the
> CW op simply because he could go faster, there are more ssb stations
> on and more mults. When the rate falls due 100 watts/ low antenna, you
> change bands.
The actual WRTC results haven't historically supported this hypothesis.
Even in 2000, when the scoring was specifically designed to make CW and
SSB QSOs equally important (by making one's CW or SSB score based upon
a percentage of the highest QSO total made on that mode) the WRTC
operators _still_ on average made more CW QSOs than phone QSOs.
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From ah3c at frii.com Wed Jul 17 17:55:52 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
YU7BW (OJ2Q) had 254 QSO's on 20 SSB 1st hour!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer, N2MG" <n2mg@eham.net>
To: "[Contest Reflector]" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
> Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
> believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. I only
> dabbled in the contest, but watching the spots and listening to the
> activity at my QTH, the OJ activity seemed far greater on CW than SSB.
> In fact, I worked all 52 OJ calls, 48 of them on 20CW, but only 6 or so
> on 20SSB.
>
> -Mike N2MG
>
> The following message was sent by "KL7RA" <kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov>
on Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:51:44 -0800.
>
> > -- CW and SSB count the same points and no additional multiplier for a
second
> > band mode QSO.
> > This rule prevents any advantage for a team with equal skills in
both modes.
> > A team that can do both modes well should be rewarded but this rule says
> > that a SSB team only can also compete. Is this what we want?
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
>From chris.blakely at verizon.net Wed Jul 17 21:26:10 2002
From: chris.blakely@verizon.net (Chris Blakely)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <003f01c22df1$b7cb08a0$3ad5fea9@christib>
Mike,Rich,
"The real answer is probably something like it doesn't matter because
> no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the strategy at this
> level of competition is simply run best rate for score. Having to balance
> between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not necessary,"
I may be wrong but is there not a CW pileup competition that figures as
part of the final score? There is an spreadsheet on the WRTC web site that
shows K5TJ & K1TO as being the highest scorers in the pileup competition. I
think that in the last WRTC this score was also part of the final standings,
so that a strictly ssb would suffer badly.
Chris, AB1R
----- Original Message -----
From: "KL7RA" <kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov>
To: "[Contest Reflector]" <cq-contest@contesting.com>; "Mike Gilmer, N2MG"
<n2mg@eham.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
> >Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
> >believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. ///snip
>
> >-Mike N2MG
>
> You're probably right Mike, but during the last few hours of the test
> their SSB rates were around five a minute, 300 hour, or more and
> I was having some difficulty cracking their ssb piles. The usual
> thinking is to double the points for CW and the Finns decided not
> to do this.
>
> My thinking is a super ssb op would have some advantage over the
> CW op simply because he could go faster, there are more ssb stations
> on and more mults. When the rate falls due 100 watts/ low antenna, you
> change bands.
>
> The real answer is probably something like it doesn't matter because
> no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the strategy at this
> level of competition is simply run best rate for score. Having to balance
> between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not necessary,
>
> Rich KL7RA
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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>
>From k8khz at comcast.net Wed Jul 17 21:31:51 2002
From: k8khz@comcast.net (Sean D. Fleming)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB Vs. CW QSO's in a Contest
Message-ID: <000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
I am not the greatest CW copier at all. I even have to use CWget to copy cy at
speeds sent by contesting stations. But I look at like the subbmision of CW op
K9LA with like 3,100 CW QSo's made in 24 Hours. Then I wonder well can you make
SSB contacts faster than CW contacts and what is it I am lacking to make more
SSB contacts. Is it Filters? Is it Large Antennas? Is it just the lack of
fastness of talking. Put some input in. I need some elmering so that I can win
a contest at some time.
My Shack here is Wire and 100W with a TS-570D(G) But I have been to a station
with a 2el Quad and a 756 Pro. Results are still somewhat not the best yet.
Also Interested to know what do you use to send CW and copy it head or
computer. Tnx.
73's
Sean
K8KHZ
k8khz@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/k8khz
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>From n2mg at eham.net Wed Jul 17 22:28:10 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
<003f01c22df1$b7cb08a0$3ad5fea9@christib>
Message-ID: <002801c22dfa$62767700$3201a8c0@mikehome>
The website says:
"Summercamp PileUp contest for fun results (in Excel file)"
I think the "for fun" part says it all. ;-)
There was a SSB competition as well.
-Mike N2MG
AB1R wrote:
> I may be wrong but is there not a CW pileup competition that figures
as
> part of the final score?
>From n2nl at yahoo.com Wed Jul 17 20:02:24 2002
From: n2nl@yahoo.com (David Mueller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <003f01c22df1$b7cb08a0$3ad5fea9@christib>
Message-ID: <20020718020224.13845.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>
The pileup tapes were for fun only, and didn't
count toward the final score.
As SSB/CW goes, here's my experiences as OJ3R.
For us, QSOs counted the same for CW and SSB.
Europe was worth 1 QSO point, DX 2 points. On the
high bands, SSB rates generally were better, because
you could simply work them faster on phone. However,
most of these were Europe. We were able to work far
more DX (W's) using CW, and thus our QSO Point per
hour was actually higher using that mode when the
bands were open stateside. Also, we worked several
close in backscatter mults we never would have had the
chance to work using SSB.
On 40 and 80, trying to find a hole in the narrow
phone subband with our 100w was nearly impossible
amungst the loud HQ and other EU stations. On the
other hand, we were able to hold our own using CW and
get quite good rates. We only used SSB here to work
new multipliers.
After talking with the top 3 teams, I think they
generally followed the same strategy - they just did
it better than us.
I think that a SSB only team with weak CW skills
would be at a SERIOUS disadvantage at a WRTC with
similar scoring.
73, Dave N2NL
--- Chris Blakely <chris.blakely@verizon.net> wrote:
> Mike,Rich,
> "The real answer is probably something like it
> doesn't matter because
> > no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the
> strategy at this
> > level of competition is simply run best rate for
> score. Having to balance
> > between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not
> necessary,"
>
> I may be wrong but is there not a CW pileup
> competition that figures as
> part of the final score? There is an spreadsheet on
> the WRTC web site that
> shows K5TJ & K1TO as being the highest scorers in
> the pileup competition. I
> think that in the last WRTC this score was also part
> of the final standings,
> so that a strictly ssb would suffer badly.
>
> Chris, AB1R
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "KL7RA" <kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov>
> To: "[Contest Reflector]"
> <cq-contest@contesting.com>; "Mike Gilmer, N2MG"
> <n2mg@eham.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
>
>
> > >Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low
> tribander, I have to
> > >believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to
> compete. ///snip
> >
> > >-Mike N2MG
> >
> > You're probably right Mike, but during the last
> few hours of the test
> > their SSB rates were around five a minute, 300
> hour, or more and
> > I was having some difficulty cracking their ssb
> piles. The usual
> > thinking is to double the points for CW and the
> Finns decided not
> > to do this.
> >
> > My thinking is a super ssb op would have some
> advantage over the
> > CW op simply because he could go faster, there are
> more ssb stations
> > on and more mults. When the rate falls due 100
> watts/ low antenna, you
> > change bands.
> >
> > The real answer is probably something like it
> doesn't matter because
> > no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the
> strategy at this
> > level of competition is simply run best rate for
> score. Having to balance
> > between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not
> necessary,
> >
> > Rich KL7RA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >
>
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
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>From llindblom at juno.com Thu Jul 18 03:21:36 2002
From: llindblom@juno.com (Larry L Lindblom)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [TCG] NAQP RTTY TEAMS
Message-ID: <20020718.022137.-933939.2.LLindblom@juno.com>
NAQP RTTY is drawing near. It is not to late to sign up for a team.
So far the following people have signed on to play on a TCG team in NAQP
RTTY.
W4GKM
K4RO
W4BCG
N1NB
KE4OAR
N2WK
W5CTV
AI9T
VE9DX
W4OX
W4LC
NY1S
KB5BOB
NN4T
VA3WN
VP2EL
8P6SH
W0ETC
It is not to late to add your call to the mix. We welcome one and all no
matter your skill, intended activity level, or geographic location. The
main thing is we want everyone to enjoy the contest any and every way
they can.
Yes, I added my call to the list. My 775 and 756 might be dead but the
trust old TS930S after sitting on a shelf for five years still works in
AFSK mode. For me it will be a back to the basics contest with no
rig/computer interface and having to run SSB filters in AFSK mode. So if
you have been hesitant to join a team for lack of a good RTTY rig let
this be an example of how crazy some of us contesters can be.
Why not join us on a team and have some fun. E-mail me if you would
like to play with us. We'll organize as many teams as we can. As always
if your call is missing from the list please resend your e-mail as I
might of fat fingered it into the trash by mistake,
73 W0ETC LAR in IA
>From w7why at harborside.com Thu Jul 18 03:37:18 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB Vs. CW QSO's in a Contest
References: <000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <3D361BCE.44E5FE7B@harborside.com>
"Sean D. Fleming" wrote:
>Then I wonder well can you make SSB contacts faster than CW >contacts and what
>is it I am lacking to make more SSB contacts.
Hi Sean
I find I can work CW much faster than SSB, mainly because my
hearing is not what it used to be after working 35 years in a
very noisy environment. It is amazing to me how some ops can
pick a call out the first time, considering accents, etc. Most
of the time I have to listen for 2 or 3 transmissions to get a
callsign straight on SSB, but on CW, it's a different story.
Most of the time I just S&P in fone contests. I get tired of
saying "huh?" all the time if trying to run stations :-) 73
Tom W7WHY
>From geoiii at kkn.net Wed Jul 17 21:40:05 2002
From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III - K5TR)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB Vs. CW QSO's in a Contest
In-Reply-To: <000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>;
from Sean D. Fleming on Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 08:31:51PM -0400
References: <000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20020717204005.B23300@loja.kkn.net>
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 08:31:51PM -0400, Sean D. Fleming wrote:
> I am not the greatest CW copier at all. I even have to use CWget to
> copy cy at speeds sent by contesting stations. But I look at like
> the subbmision of CW op K9LA with like 3,100 CW QSo's made in 24
> Hours. Then I wonder well can you make SSB contacts faster than CW
> contacts and what is it I am lacking to make more SSB contacts. Is
> it Filters? Is it Large Antennas? Is it just the lack of fastness of
> talking. Put some input in.
All of those things help.
Normally - all things being equal you can make more
contacts per hour on SSB than you can on CW.
I could go on and on about what things can make a
diffrence but I think the thing you are asking is
"How can I make larger contest scores?"
It helps to have bigger antennas - moving from your
wire to a tribander or quad at 40-60 feet high
would make a big diffrence. Going from 100 watts to
500 or 1000 or 1500 will also help. The antenna will
help more because you will hear more people.
Operating alot of contests also helps - just as in most
things in life the more you practice them the better you get.
Getting on and operating alot will do you more good
than anything else - esp when you are first starting out.
Most of the contest greats did alot of contesting
with poor antennas and equuipment for countless years
before they won their first contest.
When I look at your contest scores here:
http://www.geocities.com/k8khz/contesting.html
I notice two things:
- You have not been doing this contesting thing too long.
- Your scores have improved alot from one year to the next.
(This is really good and what we all strive to do.)
Keep up the good work.
> Pro. Results are still somewhat not the best yet. Also Interested to
> know what do you use to send CW and copy it head or computer. Tnx.
As far as I know all the CW contest winners copy CW with their
head - it just takes practice. Some of us (me) have never really
worked on it hard enough and still can't do CW very well.
You email and my answer reminds me of one of my all time
favorite posts ever made to the CQ-Contest mailing list.
It was a post by N5KO.
In fact I liked it so much I have it saved in my /home directory.
Here it is - if you missed it the first time.
(KR0Y/5 is now N5TJ)
+++++++++ copy of post +++++++++
> If I were in your class, what would I appreciate about your
> ability or technique? Or in other words, what would another
> highly accomplished contester know about your skills that I
> miss because I'm just an awed "apprentice"?
>(If you're too modest to talk about yourself, apply the question
> to the your personal contesting "hero", the guy you vow to beat
> this year.)
In my view, this is one of the true dilemmas of radio contesting.
You, as the hypothetical "apprentice," do not have the knowledge or
experience to be able to appreciate the skills I have developed
that make me the hypothetical "major league contester."
And similarly, I take for granted many of the fundamental skills
that are necessary for you to advance to the next level.
I like to offer up two quotations that sum up my general
beliefs on the topic. The first is from someone in my peer
group, and second is from someone who I would categorize as
a personal contesting hero from my formative years in
contesting, although I doubt he actually knows this :-) ).
"With experience comes knowledge and cunning. I can't stand here
and tell you the secrets, as many of them are second nature to me
now."-KR0Y/5
"The best of the best gained their winning edge practicing the basics
over and over in numerous forgettable events, often using inadequte
radios and second-rate antennas. Discovering how to overcome such
obstacles are lessons never forgotten."-NCJ Profile of N6RO
And now for a bit of a digression:
I have observed many "second tier" (and others down through the
neophyte ranks of) contesters think that there is some set of
winning "tricks" that the "first tier" contesters use to beat them,
and if only someone would let them in on these terrific secrets,
they would be first rate contesters themselves.
These people are setting themselves up for disappointment, because
I'm going to let them in on the biggest secret of all:
"There are no secrets!"
It turns out, as with most things is life, that skill and hard
work pay the most reliable dividends in the long run.
Now for some specific advice. None of these things are mandatory to
win, but collectively they really add up:
o Know the code. 50 WPM conversational is a nice milestone
note: don't try this at home with pencil and paper.
o Know the bands. Nothing like knowing the right band
to be on to improve your score.
o Know your station. Knowing whether or not your station
has the gusto to run people or crack pileups under
given conditions on a given band is a real time saver.
o Stay in the chair. You can't be the loudest station on
the air if you are not on the air.
And now for some general advice:
o Operate a lot. Experience is king.
I learn something every time I operate.
o Solicit advice from a variety of experienced people.
Some of the "experts" will be more compatible with you
on a personal level than others, so shop around and get
a variety of points of view.
To wit, after I post this message, I will get a few notes from
various folks, about half of which will say "I really identified
with what you wrote. You're a genius!" and the other half of
which will say "You're a moron. Get stuffed!"
--Trey, N5KO, HC8N (QSL via AA5BT), WN4KKN/6
+++++++++++++ end of post +++++++++++++++++
--
George Fremin III - K5TR
geoiii@kkn.net
http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>From marc.wullaert3 at pandora.be Thu Jul 18 06:51:51 2002
From: marc.wullaert3@pandora.be (Marc Wullaert)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Vist to TEXAS-HOUSTON
Message-ID: <003d01c22e0e$7ace3770$0401a8c0@on4mamarc>
Hi,
Sorry for the bandwith,but the next two weeks I will
be near Houston Texas on holiday.Anyone I can meet
there in the second week.I have a car overthere.
73/dx
Marc ON4MA
>From swca at swbell.net Wed Jul 17 23:55:30 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <067001c22e0e$f6e13790$0100a8c0@TL01>
Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
Mark, N5OT
>From K9GY at K9GY.com Thu Jul 18 05:20:32 2002
From: K9GY@K9GY.com (Eric K9GY)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
Message-ID: <013201c22e12$ac7912a0$564d180a@9byjx01>
I for one would like to see some continental differences utilized in the next
WRTC.
It appears that EU and US WRTC geographical coverage has been accomplished.
Given that how about Asia or South America?
Maybe China or Asiatic Russia...Argentina or Brazil...
We can "mix it up" by having it in AS or SA?
Although I think it will be a disappointment to have the next WRTC during the
solar minimum
unless the standard setup is going to include nice low band antennas :-)
N5TJ & K1TO could then capture the WRTC Won-All-Continents!
CQ Contest!
>From n0ss at earthlink.net Thu Jul 18 00:30:19 2002
From: n0ss@earthlink.net (Tom Hammond =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=D8SS?=)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [TRLog] Various IARU issues
In-Reply-To: <002e01c22e0e$d071e460$0700000a@slc.teltronics.com>
References: <4.3.2.7.0.20020718005347.003851d0@pop.pacific.net.hk>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020717232535.00b305f0@mail.earthlink.net>
Tom:
>I feel like people are laughing at me when I call QRZ to check for the
>frequency in use before I start a run frequency. Sort of like a scarlett Q
>on my signal Hi Hi.
QRZ? ("who is calling me?") isn't the appropriate Q-signal. QRL? ("Is the
frequency occupied") is more appropriate.
In the heat of a contest, it is sometimes difficult to remember to "QRL"
each time you think you've found a clear freq, I must admit. I try, but
often find myself forgetting, and being chastized for it a bit later...
usually following (or more often DURING) the first CQ. The nice thing is
QSK, so you can hear other activity WHILE you're sending. Thus you can stop
sending as soon as you realize there is traffic on the freq.
In many cases, if I hear a station beginning to CW on the freq. I'm
operating on, I can generally send a couple DAHs, he'll hear me thru his
CQing and stop sending or move.
73,
Tom Hammond N0SS
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Jul 18 01:44:08 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] re CW - dear naysayers - we have proof it works better :-)
Message-ID: <041d01c22e15$c0c01580$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
as a low power mobile in the Florida QSO Party I must say it is far more fun to
run stations on CW than to get bits and pieces of and exchange on SSB....the
operator is indeed more of a factor on CW!
BUT this is WRTC which tests all contest skills including maybe knowing when
conditions are good enough to make SSB a viable option...
Ken says:
The actual WRTC results haven't historically supported this hypothesis.
Even in 2000, when the scoring was specifically designed to make CW and
SSB QSOs equally important (by making one's CW or SSB score based upon
a percentage of the highest QSO total made on that mode) the WRTC
operators _still_ on average made more CW QSOs than phone QSOs.
Probably because it was easier - and hence more productive!
In a low power environment nobody can argue successfully with me that CW isn't
a better node!
This is not because I am a code guy - it is because I know what works in
marginal conditions - anybody can run and be king for a limited amount of any
contest - when the worked is not our oyster (which is the bulk of the contest)
is when we see the beauty of CW - even with marginal copy both ends you can
make it happen, those in the know and any top ten finisher in a CW contest will
tell you he won not by those phenomenal peak Euro hours but the fact that he
had a lot of "average" hours where he was successful at running the "pw"
stations.
When you get great CW ops you get some big numbers...at the low part of the
cycle the score will close (SSB vs. CW) because those that are making QSOs
magically happen under strained conditions are doing it on SSB!
We can talk faster with our mouths than our fingers on the whole...but we hear
CW better and that sir is the most important factor in Dxing or Contesting -
you can;t work em if ya can't copy em!
>From Tropical Florida - hoo wee its hot - tomorrow may break some records!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
knowing when prop is good enough
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>From jpe at UWasa.Fi Thu Jul 18 09:58:47 2002
From: jpe@UWasa.Fi (Jari Perkiömäki)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OI2HQ Lapua photos online
Message-ID: <200207180558.IAA06967@loisto.uwasa.fi>
Hello,
a photo gallery of the SRAL HQ station OI2HQ in Lapua (15 m CW)
is now available for viewing at
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/gallery/
73 de Jari OH6BG
oh6bg@sral.fi
>From samir at totem.se Thu Jul 18 11:27:03 2002
From: samir@totem.se (Samir SP. Popaja)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W6PU article from CQ Magazine
Message-ID: <D68700EE85B31E4290D0AA4AA87726179FBF@RONJA.totem.net>
Hello,
Does someone have a copy of article
published by W6PU, 4 el. dual-driven quad.
I'm interesting in building it.
Thanks.
Samir, SM7VZX
SM7VZX, ex. SM7/T94BO, SM7/4N4BO, 4N4BO, YU4BO, 4N4A
Samir Popaja, SM7VZX
Lettlandsgatan 2B
SE-214 31 Malm?
Sweden
>From n2nl at yahoo.com Thu Jul 18 06:48:05 2002
From: n2nl@yahoo.com (David Mueller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
In-Reply-To: <013201c22e12$ac7912a0$564d180a@9byjx01>
Message-ID: <20020718124805.5514.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>
China and Brazil were both on the rumor list for the
next one. Most people are thinking it will be in
Brazil....
73, Dave
--- Eric K9GY <K9GY@K9GY.com> wrote:
> I for one would like to see some continental
> differences utilized in the next WRTC.
> It appears that EU and US WRTC geographical coverage
> has been accomplished.
>
> Given that how about Asia or South America?
> Maybe China or Asiatic Russia...Argentina or
> Brazil...
> We can "mix it up" by having it in AS or SA?
>
> Although I think it will be a disappointment to have
> the next WRTC during the solar minimum
> unless the standard setup is going to include nice
> low band antennas :-)
>
> N5TJ & K1TO could then capture the WRTC
> Won-All-Continents!
>
> CQ Contest!
>
>
>
>
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
>
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>From n2mg at eham.net Thu Jul 18 11:00:09 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Secrets, etc...
Message-ID: <200207181300.g6ID085r018372@contesting.com>
There was a lot of traffic on the reflector in Feb 1996 along these
lines. Take a look at the CQ-Contest archives where N5KO's previously
quoted post was made originally.
http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/1996-February/
Look for threads entitled "secrets", "What REALLY makes you good",
and maybe a few others.
Mike N2MG
>From ha5pp at yahoo.com Thu Jul 18 07:27:27 2002
From: ha5pp@yahoo.com (Zoltan Szoke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 in Finland, WRTC 2004 in ...
Message-ID: <20020718132727.17748.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi Contesters,
First of all CONGRATS TO ALL for the super WRTC 2002
in Finland!
I enjoyed the OJs (K4OJ too, hi) fantastic operation
very much.
One thing is sure with WRTC2004: the winners will be
N5TJ/K1TO. :)))))
73
Zoli
HA5PP
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Thu Jul 18 14:35:04 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW works better!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020718123504.00721748@pop.vnet.net>
K4OJ:
>In a low power environment nobody can argue successfully with me that CW
isn't a better node!
This is also true on the low bands. Proof - compare alltime
SOSB records for CW vs SSB on 160-40 in the CQ WW records here:
http://www.cqww.com/intro.htm
CW and SSB weekends use identical rules and are held at similar times of
year, and CW scores vastly exceed SSB scores in most categories. Here
are 160M comparisons used in our RM-10352 Petition for mode segmentation.
Source: http://members.aol.com/k3bu/W160Records.htm
Average all-time CQ 160 Contest record scores, CW versus SSB:
Area/Category: % CW score exceeds SSB
Africa +585
Asia +44
Europe +123
North America +68
USA +30
Oceania +57
South America +212
Multi-operator +31
Low Power (<100W) +63
QRP (<5W) +98
AVERAGE MARGIN: +128%
Source: http://members.aol.com/k3bu/WWRecords.htm
Average all-time CQ WW record scores (SOSB160), CW versus SSB:
Area/Category: % CW score exceeds SSB
Africa -67
Asia +2
Europe +133
N. America +65
Oceania +52
S. America +152
USA +157
AVERAGE MARGIN: +71%
In the extreme conditions on the low bands, CW rules!
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n2mg at eham.net Thu Jul 18 12:14:41 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] For those who like to search the Archives...
Message-ID: <200207181414.g6IEEe5r019397@contesting.com>
I recently ran several searches of the archives on contesting.com.
(For those who don't know where to do this, go to the "List Search" in
the left menu area of http://www.contesting.com)
Unfortunately, that search tool searches ALL the active reflectors on
contesting.com at once (amps, towertalk, cq-contest, etc.) and one
cannot choose to search only, say, "cq-contest". It has been pointed
out that one could add the specific reflector's name to the search
criteria if one wishes to limit the hits to that reflector. This is a
good idea and effective.
However, there seems to be a "gotcha" in that method, for when one
wishes to search, say, cq-contest, and places "cq-contest" in the
search criteria, one will probably not get any hits before March 1997.
This is because the cq-contest archives appeared to change form around
that time - back then the archive pages for each post did not
necessarily have the term "cq-contest" on them anywhere (the new archives have
it in the reflector's navigation links). Delete the
reference to "cq-contest" in the search criteria and posts from back
that far begin appearing in the hit list. But then, of course, so do
posts from all the other reflectors.
73 Mike N2MG
>From swca at swbell.net Thu Jul 18 10:24:09 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why IARU?
References: <191.9fbca00.2a681284@aol.com>
Message-ID: <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
I got a reply to my question "why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the
IARU Radiosport?" which informed me it was important for the WRTC to be held
during a contest in order to keep participation up. Duh (with respect),
that's not what I meant.
I admit it might not have been clear, but my question was not "why does it
need to be wedded to a contest," but why, specifically, the *IARU*?
The IARU Radiosport is certainly not the contest with the greatest
participation.
I was wondering why it couldn't, for instance, be done over 24 hours in the
CQWW or perhaps some other contest-du-jour. Mode issues? Does it really
come down to this?
Certainly it changes enough each time even within the IARU that there is not
really a case for consistency. Is there?
But seriously, the IARU has some liabilities for WRTC as far as I can tell.
Ultimately I would think this event would benefit from consistency, i.e. an
identical event each time, but is this even possible?
Is the WRTC Committee that was formed long ago still at work?
Is the WRTC evolving into such a fantastic, legitimate event that it could
justify its own event? Is this so huge that it could justify retiring
another event to keep the calendar reasonable? Would the I-A-R-Union
themselves consider allowing the Radiosport to get moved out of July and be
re-designed to center on the WRTC? Should the I-A-R-Union actually globally
administrate the WRTC? Should regional qualifying events be held during
this contest in non-WRTC years? Should there be separate CW WRTCs and Phone
WRTCs?
Just wondering.
Mark, N5OT
>From geoiii at kkn.net Thu Jul 18 09:03:46 2002
From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III - K5TR)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW works better!
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020718123504.00721748@pop.vnet.net>; from Bill Tippett
on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 01:35:04PM +0100
References: <1.5.4.32.20020718123504.00721748@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <20020718080346.B28645@loja.kkn.net>
On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 01:35:04PM +0100, Bill Tippett wrote:
> K4OJ:
> >In a low power environment nobody can argue successfully with me that CW
> isn't a better node!
>
> This is also true on the low bands. Proof - compare alltime
> SOSB records for CW vs SSB on 160-40 in the CQ WW records here:
While I will not dispute that CW does better in getting
through the noise on these bands - I think that more of the
score diffrences can be attributed to these problems:
- Lack of ssb frequency alignment on the low bands.
This forces the use of split frequency operation.
- Very limited frequency ranges in some countries.
There is not very much bandwidth to jam the
SSB signals into.
>
> http://www.cqww.com/intro.htm
>
> CW and SSB weekends use identical rules and are held at similar times of
> year, and CW scores vastly exceed SSB scores in most categories. Here
> are 160M comparisons used in our RM-10352 Petition for mode segmentation.
>
160m is the worst for all of the above reasons.
>
> Average all-time CQ WW record scores (SOSB160), CW versus SSB:
>
> Area/Category: % CW score exceeds SSB
> Africa -67
> Asia +2
> Europe +133
> N. America +65
> Oceania +52
> S. America +152
> USA +157
>
> AVERAGE MARGIN: +71%
>
> In the extreme conditions on the low bands, CW rules!
Ditto.
Dont you think the 160 scores might have more to do
with limited band allocations and in some cases no
band allocations on 160 than they
have to do with other factors?
How do QSO totals in the 160m SSB contest compair to the
QSO totals in the CQ 160 CW contest?
(I dont know.)
--
George Fremin III - K5TR
geoiii@kkn.net
http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>From wk6i at twistedoak.com Thu Jul 18 09:13:29 2002
From: wk6i@twistedoak.com (Jeff Stai WK6I)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why IARU?
In-Reply-To: <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
References: <191.9fbca00.2a681284@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020718080740.037e2e50@mail.megapathdsl.net>
At 07:24 AM 7/18/2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
>I admit it might not have been clear, but my question was not "why does it
>need to be wedded to a contest," but why, specifically, the *IARU*?
>
>The IARU Radiosport is certainly not the contest with the greatest
>participation.
Two reactions:
1. Why make it so easy for WRTC to find stations? (I have no personal
knowledge to back this up, but I expect fishing contests do not take place
in a heavily stocked lake...;-)
2. There was plenty of participation this year - I played S&P this year and
never lacked for stations to work (until nightfall, when my inadequate low
band antennas let me down). I'll note that the 'dual mode' nature of IARU
effectively 'doubles' the bands available to play in....
73! - jeff wk6i
Jeff Stai Twisted Oak Winery LLC
Email jds@twistedoak.com
Amateur Radio WK6I
ROC Web Page http://www.rocstock.org/
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Thu Jul 18 11:17:32 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why IARU?
In-Reply-To: <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>; from Mark Beckwith on Thu,
Jul 18, 2002 at 09:24:09AM -0500
References: <191.9fbca00.2a681284@aol.com> <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
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On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:24:09AM -0500, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> I was wondering why it couldn't, for instance, be done over 24 hours in the
> CQWW or perhaps some other contest-du-jour. Mode issues? Does it really
> come down to this?
Yes, but it is more than that.
One of the wonderful things about the IARU is that it is (a) not a single
band contest, which forces the teams to think about band changes, and (b)
it is both a CW and SSB contest, which makes it important that a team
excel at both modes. The IARU is by far the largest and most active contest
that meets these two requirements.
Another advantage to IARU is that it is a big contest without being _the_
big contest. A lot of the top contest ops like to be DX during the CQWW,
for instance, and asking the top contesters to give that up for WRTC might
not work. Asking them to plan on taking their summer vacation in the
European countryside or Rio De Janeiro or the beaches of Florida makes the
competition more attractive for the top competitors and judges to attend.
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>From kg2au at stny.rr.com Thu Jul 18 12:31:37 2002
From: kg2au@stny.rr.com (Jimmy Weierich)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB Vs. CW QSO's in a Contest
In-Reply-To: <20020717204005.B23300@loja.kkn.net>
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>On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 08:31:51PM -0400, Sean D. Fleming wrote:
>
>> I am not the greatest CW copier at all. I even have to use CWget to
>> copy cy at speeds sent by contesting stations. But I look at like
>> the subbmision of CW op K9LA with like 3,100 CW QSo's made in 24
>> Hours. Then I wonder well can you make SSB contacts faster than CW
>> contacts and what is it I am lacking to make more SSB contacts. Is
>> it Filters? Is it Large Antennas? Is it just the lack of fastness of
> > talking. Put some input in.
The scores posted on you're website remind me of my first two years
of contesting, 1995-6. I've made some progress since then, but still
have a long way to go.
As George (K5TR) said, a tribander will make more difference than you
would ever believe.
However, as George also says, the thing that will improve your scores
most is dirt cheap, at least in dollar cost, - hard work and practice!
Listed below is a post that inspired me to improve my skills when I
was at about the stage you are at and beginning to get discouraged of
ever improving. This post was aimed at some posters who were whining,
but also applies to anyone who wants to improve their contesting
skills. Thanks again Rob!
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From: rhummel@monad.net (Rob Hummel)
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX whining vs winning
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I've read with interest and horror some of the opinions and statements that
have been put forth on the topic of the WPX and contests in general, how
they're scored, and how they're unfair.
I'm very concerned that new or prospective contesters will read this and get
the impression that the winners got what they got because they're privileged
somehow. That winners are, in essence, cheaters. Because if the winners
weren't cheating, they couldn't have beat all those virtuous losers. That,
in fact, any activity where someone loses is -- by definition -- unfair.
Contesting is competition -- plain and simple. There are no second-place
winners. The term for those who don't win is "loser." There is no shame in
losing. I have been a loser many times. Winning feels good, but losing
educates you. Ask my 6-year old daughter what being a loser means and she'll
tell you without hesitation: it means you have to try harder. No one ever
won a contest by whining.
If you want to be competitive, you must do everything within your power (and
the rules) to maximize your advantages and minimize your disadvantages.
Complaining that a contest is unfair accomplishes nothing except to brand
you as a bitter, dissatisfied, jaded, jealous naysayer.
Ignore advice or whining from folks who don't even participate in the
contest. What can they possibly tell you except how to be a bitter loser? If
you want to win, associate around winners.
If you want to be competitive, you must be positive. Here are some suggestions.
1. Aquire as much knowledge as possible about the contest.
First, learn the rules of the contest. That means knowing the exchange and
the scoring. It also means understanding what strategy you should use to
maximize your score. Figure out how long should you chase a multiplier and
how many Qs do you need to be competitive.
Figure out if a mult or a 3-point qso is more valuable to you toward the end
of the contest. Calculate how many mults you will need to be competitive.
2. Decide where to point your antenna and when.
You must understand how propagation affects your area. Read the propagation
forecasts and make sure you understand them. Know where your greyline goes.
Know when 40m opens and 20m closes. Keep an extra antenna and radio tuned to
popular 10m frequencies (you know them because you researched, right?) to
check for band openings.
3. Study the local competition.
Study the scores, mults, and prefixes worked by those in your area. Call
them or write them and find out their strategies. (Of course, they may not
want to tell you!) Ask for copies of their logs. Study where they pointed
their antennas and when. Find out what bands they favored and why.
Anyone who beats you is in a position to teach you something. Instead of
reviling them, study them. Don't forget the other end of the spectrum. Some
of the most valuable lessons I've learned have come from low-power stations
with wire antennas.
4. Know the field.
Study the contest results from the past 2-3 years. You must know the calls
that were active. You must know if any special DX stations be on. You should
know who you'll be listening for.
You must know the frequencies that JAs can use on 80m. You should know the
40m allocation world-wide. You should know where VKs will be on the low
bands. Instead of figuring out why the contest is unfair, learn how to work it.
5. Improve your station.
Learn the truth about feedline matching, antenna loss, VSWR, directivity,
and gain. That means read and study. That means experiment. That means cut
and try.
Shrug off the myths embraced by the mediocre. Don't listen to people who
tell you that 2:1 SWR is good enough because all the power goes somewhere
eventually. Or that 9913 is lossless at HF. Or that a 1 dB difference in a
signal is unnoticable at either end. Or that connector loss is negligable.
All those statements are lies. Find out why.
Work on your antennas. Nothing is perfect or stays that way. Put up new
antennas. Try wires. Try loops. Try beverages. Try low-noise receive
antennas. Try slopers. Try, try, try. All these antennas are relatively
low-cost.
6. Learn your radio.
All (well, most) of those knobs on your radio have a purpose. Find out what
they do. Read and study the manual. Do you know where the manual is?
If you can quickly set a split frequency, you might be the first to work a
new station of 40m. If you learn how to use those 100+ memories efficiently,
you can stack up big stations and throw your call in rapidly to 2, 5, or
more stations simultaneously.
Get all your filters in place. Get a voice keyer. Learn your DSP. Get a
better mike. Tweak the audio until it sounds crystal clear and with all the
punch of a buzz saw cutting through aluminum. Remember that setting for the
contest, then turn it back to mushy so the boys on 80m don't complain.
7. WORK the contest.
If you're going to work a contest, then, by God, WORK IT. A 48-hour contest
runs for 48 hours. If you want to be competitive, you will run for 48 hours
too. Hey, if you can't, then you can't. But then don't whine about not winning.
The single biggest weapon that a small pistol has is persistance. I've heard
lectures from big guns where they advocate switching bands when your QSO
rate drops below 60/hour. That's okay for a big gun, but here are some
suprising statistics:
* At a rate of 60 Qs/hour, you would work 2,880 stations in a 48-hour contest.
* At 30/hour, you'd work 1,440 stations in a 48-hour contest.
* Even a rate of 15/hour (only one QSO every 4 minutes!), you'd still work
720 stations in 48 hours!
How many Qs did you work in the last contest? I've WON contests where I
didn't make 720 total Qs.
Cherry pickers don't win. If you give up when the time between Qs stretches
out to 4, 6, 10, or more minutes, you give up your competitiveness. A
contesters mettle is measured in the dead of night when calling CQ endlessly
on a seemingly dead band or when tuning 20m or 40m or any other band
straining to pull that next new station out of the noise. (Hint: This is
where 1 dB or less makes all the difference in the world.)
8. Have fun.
Winning is fun. But so is competiting. It's great fun being a part of an
overall event that's larger than some petty self-centered concern about
whether your QTH is "unfairly disadvantaged." If you want to have fun in a
contest, find people who are having fun and do what they're doing. Don't be
poisoned by the facile argument that a contest where everyone isn't a winner
is unfair and unfair is no fun.
Everything is fun if it involves amateur radio.
* I love working SSB, CW, and RTTY contests -- although my skill in each
mode varies widely.
* I love domestic contests. I don't like the spate of non-SASE cards they
generate, but I answer every one -- I will NOT be responsible for
discouraging a ham for a few bucks.
* I love DX contests. Every time I hear GW4BLE or ON4UN or EA7USA it's the
same thrill.
* Everytime someone remembers my call I light up like a little kid. Gosh,
they remember me!
* I love working the all-Bulgaria QSO party and being the only USA entry --
winning with 4 QSOs!
* I highlight my name in every contest result that published. What a thrill!
Any contest I miss I consider a failure. Every contest I make is a victory.
[Conclusion]
If you like contests or think you might, understand that there are hundreds
and thousands of like-minded souls out there who want you to be the best you
can be. We'll help, encourage, and congratulate you for every QSO you make
and every log you submit. Every DX station is looking for you. Every QSL you
get is a thank you.
Ignore the bitter, the miserable, and the perpetually dissatisifed. They're
not your compeitition; they're QRM.
Rob Hummel (WS1A) <rhummel@monad.net>
--
Jimmy Weierich, K2LV, ex KG2AU <kg2au@stny.rr.com>
Vestal, NY USA FN12xa
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Thu Jul 18 12:29:43 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why IARU?
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Mark Beckwith wrote:
> I admit it might not have been clear, but my question was not "why
> does it need to be wedded to a contest," but why, specifically, the
> *IARU*?
A couple thoughts come to mind ...
Contest that allows "mixed mode" - what the WRTC teams will need to
maximize their score.
24 hours - means teams will need to know propagation and what bands to
be on when. They won't get a second chance the next day.
Scoring - we're chasing zones, so not many DXpeditions activating rare
"country multipliers" to distract from the WRTC competitors.
Weather - at least in the Northern Hemisphere (where all previous WRTC's
have been held), it's summertime, which usually means nice weather for
building 52 stations and other "festivities" associated with WRTC.
> Certainly it changes enough each time even within the IARU that there
> is not really a case for consistency. Is there?
>
> But seriously, the IARU has some liabilities for WRTC as far as I can
> tell.
Like what?
> Ultimately I would think this event would benefit from consistency,
> i.e. an identical event each time, but is this even possible?
IARU is consistent ... just like any other contest. And like every
other contest, it varies from year to year, day to day, and from hour to
hour. That's what makes them fun ... one never knows what to expect ...
the better ops adapt to what they are given.
> Is the WRTC evolving into such a fantastic, legitimate event that
> it could justify its own event? Is this so huge that it could
> justify retiring another event to keep the calendar reasonable?
> Would the I-A-R-Union themselves consider allowing the Radiosport to
> get moved out of July and be re-designed to center on the WRTC?
Why? The activity levels are such, that WRTC can fit within IARU. Why
a "new" event with new rules? We'd all work the 52 teams and then go
QRT? That's no fun.
> Should regional qualifying events be held during this contest in
> non-WRTC years?
In other WRTC's, past contest scores were used to select participants,
so every contest is basically a qualifying event!
> Should there be separate CW WRTCs and Phone WRTCs?
No ... a "mixed mode" competition allows the best overall operators to
duke it out ... not just the best CW or SSB ops. If you want to win,
you have to be good in both modes.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"! Yeah, you can tweak it from WRTC to
WRTC, but it's been successful so far since the 1990 running ... why
mess with it?
Ron, WD4AHZ
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Thu Jul 18 17:17:27 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
<001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <3D36EA17.1C9C49EC@directvinternet.com>
"Peter Grillo, Sr." wrote:
>
> YU7BW (OJ2Q) had 254 QSO's on 20 SSB 1st hour!
Well, perhaps one more story. In the late 80s, I and several others
operated the
CQWWSSB from V47. Now, to show the rediculous, we arranged for a top
JA ( think his
name was Yosi ) to be part of our team. Flew him over here at our
expense, ect. Although he did operate other bands, his primary use was
when openings to JA occured in late afternoon. His rate was absolutely
fantastic, over 400+ per hour, and of course, in Japanese.
So that may well be a consideration the next time a team is put
together. Believe me, he had his buddies at home lined up like ducks
in a shooting gallary. No doubt, the discipline of the JAs was also a
factor.
And yes, we did win.
73
ed, k4sb
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Jul 18 13:32:05 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] why pic IARU Radiosport to marry WRTC?
References: <200207181544.g6IFiQ5r020981@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <00a601c22e78$a9d72e40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Re: Why IARU?
Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
Mark, N5OT
My take:
Summary - It is perfect fit - othwer than n0t being at the best time of year
for radio propagation!
Why:
...the event has to take place in the context of another contest - why upset
the two biggees - CQWW and ARRL - they are the Kings
...the event has to be during a contest which allows both phone and cw
operating to be showcased - need I say more
...W's need to be able to work W's and DL's need to be able to work DL's -
when susnspot conditions are low and you have marginalized DXing you still
need rate!
.......is there another bi-modal worldwide event that is on all the HF bands
that will work?
Don't think so!
What do you propose Mark???????????????
Jim, K4OJ
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Thu Jul 18 17:40:16 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW works better!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020718154016.0073befc@pop.vnet.net>
Hi George!
K5TR wrote:
>While I will not dispute that CW does better in getting
through the noise on these bands - I think that more of the
score diffrences can be attributed to these problems:
1 - Lack of ssb frequency alignment on the low bands.
This forces the use of split frequency operation.
2 - Very limited frequency ranges in some countries.
There is not very much bandwidth to jam the
SSB signals into.
1. 40 and 80 must operate split between Region 2 and
Regions 1 & 3 for the most part...but that has not been the case
for 160 which has identical favorable results for CW as on
the other two bands. Of course, I maintain SSB scores on 160
will actually go up if we segment and DX operates split. The
simple reason is that DX will not be buried underneath extremely
strong local US stations continuously CQ-ing on top of them.
2. Part of the problem with SSB is that it is a
bandwidth hog. When you try to crowd an equivalent number
of contesters into the same low band frequencies, the narrow
bandwidth mode will always win. The inverse of this is 10-20
meters where SSB usually wins. On 10 meters, with effectively
no bandwidth limit on either mode, SSB wins by about 50% (my CQ
WW SSB record is 1.464M versus my CW record of 0.965M).
>Dont you think the 160 scores might have more to do
with limited band allocations and in some cases no
band allocations on 160 than they
have to do with other factors?
Not at all. It has more to do with the fact that a
narrow bandwidth mode allows better copy of weak signals
because the narrower bandwidth allows better rejection of
interference, noise, etc. This is the same reason that digital
modes work well in extracting signals from noise. Programs
like WSJT, QRSS/Spectrascan, etc effectively make EXTREMELY narrow
bandwidths using DSP that allow copy even below the noise floor
(of course I personally do not think a computer-to-computer
WSJT or QRSS "QSO" means much but that's another topic!)
>How do QSO totals in the 160m SSB contest compair to the
QSO totals in the CQ 160 CW contest?
(I dont know.)
In general, SSB QSO totals are higher in the CQ 160 SSB,
especially so for stations in the middle of the US, which can be
seen here (CW contintental and USA records listed before SSB on
the same page):
http://members.aol.com/k3bu/W160Records.htm
However, CQ 160 CW SCORES are higher because CW works better for
weak-signal DX resulting in higher multipliers and points/QSO.
BTW, total participation in the CQ 160 SSB and CW is almost
identical, so the difference cannot be explained by activity
levels. In the CQ WW, 160 CW QSO totals are generally higher than
SSB because that contest tends to be more DX to DX (favoring CW's
superiority in working weak DX signals) compared to the CQ 160
which is more weighted to local QSO's (at least in the USA).
73, Bill W4ZV
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Thu Jul 18 15:35:49 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
<001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
<3D36EA17.1C9C49EC@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <3D370A85.3D5A1FBE@gte.net>
K4SB wrote:
> So that may well be a consideration the next time a team is put
> together. Believe me, he had his buddies at home lined up like ducks
> in a shooting gallary.
Which is why this is against WRTC rules!
5. Language
Only English language and common international abbreviations can be
used - both on SSB and CW.
8. Soliciting QSOs
... The operators are not allowed to identify, who they personally
are or which team they are.
Someone speaking Japanese, Russian, etc., would pretty much identify
who the teams are.
Ron
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 18 12:48:44 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Georgia QSO Party This Weekend
Message-ID: <20020718184844.39328.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
Hello Fellow Contesters,
If you had fun chasing OJ's around in IARU last weekend you can have
just as much fun this weekend chasing rovers (and working fixed
stations) in the 159 counties of Georgia. The South East Contest Club
and the Southeastern DX Club invite you to participate in the 2002
version of the Georgia QSO party.
There are two operating periods. 1800Z July 20 - 0359Z July 21 and
1400Z July 21 - 2359Z July 21. 20 hours total. All stations may
operate the full 20 hours. There is an impressive array of plaques that
can be had for alittle bit of work on your part.
Please see the GQP webpage at http://gqp.contesting.com for
the complete rules , list of awards, and downloads for your favorite
logging program. Hope to hear you on and as K4OJ would say "Only 2 more
days until the GQP !"
73's Jeff KU8E
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>From john.devoldere at pandora.be Thu Jul 18 20:03:18 2002
From: john.devoldere@pandora.be (john devoldere, ON4UN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
References: <20020718124805.5514.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005501c22e8d$c7b7e7a0$6201a8c0@RUN1>
... as well as Germany and A61.
John, ON4UN
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Mueller" <n2nl@yahoo.com>
To: "Eric K9GY" <K9GY@K9GY.com>; "Contest Reflector"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
> China and Brazil were both on the rumor list for the
> next one. Most people are thinking it will be in
> Brazil....
>
> 73, Dave
>
> --- Eric K9GY <K9GY@K9GY.com> wrote:
> > I for one would like to see some continental
> > differences utilized in the next WRTC.
> > It appears that EU and US WRTC geographical coverage
> > has been accomplished.
> >
> > Given that how about Asia or South America?
> > Maybe China or Asiatic Russia...Argentina or
> > Brazil...
> > We can "mix it up" by having it in AS or SA?
> >
> > Although I think it will be a disappointment to have
> > the next WRTC during the solar minimum
> > unless the standard setup is going to include nice
> > low band antennas :-)
> >
> > N5TJ & K1TO could then capture the WRTC
> > Won-All-Continents!
> >
> > CQ Contest!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Thu Jul 18 16:39:07 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] speaking of parts prices...
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020718153646.00a5f9a0@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
What's with Heil? They used to have a good reputation for providing small
parts reasonably, but I recently bought a boom clip and a pair of earpads
for a BM-10 from them. The charge was $5.00 for each item, plus $3.00 S&H,
and they arrived USPS in a box with 60 cents postage on it. Yes, I know
about the cost of handling small orders, but I think these prices have it
built in several times over...
73, Pete N4ZR
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Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From swca at swbell.net Thu Jul 18 16:26:43 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] World Champion
References: <200207181544.g6IFiQ5r020981@contesting.com>
<00a601c22e78$a9d72e40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <093001c22e99$70df1fa0$0100a8c0@TL01>
I have gotten maybe 2x the number of comments direct to me that have been
aired on cq-contest. I am beginning to see some basic stuff emerge from the
replies.
Everyone agrees (except me, I guess) that the WRTC event must meet these
criteria:
1. It must be an international event
2. It must be on both modes
3. It shouldn't be during an established MAJOR event i.e. CQWW or ARRL
One respondent also pointed out that July basically ensures a good turnout.
I'll buy that. I guess. In the Northern Hemisphere, at least.
Okay, so the IARU fits all these qualifications, but has the glaring
shortcoming of crappy conditions on the low bands.
>What do you propose Mark?
Gosh, now that you ask:
I think the concept of on-site competition for contesting's best should be
substantially more popular. If this were the case, perhaps holding it
during each mode of the CQWW would not be "a pesky annoyance," as many seem
to feel it would be, but - get this - "an honor."
I agree that at the moment this is not practical. However, I know plenty of
guys who already go away (i.e. to foriegn countries at great expense) for
both weekends of the CQWW and have for many years. In fact, many of them
happened to be in Finland last weekend. I think it's all a matter of the
quality of the event, the reputation, and the value of the results. And,
for that matter, the budget. WRTC is a great event, and the Finns took it
to new heights, but it is not "there yet."
One day the value of "world champion" might be more valuable than "winner of
the CQ worldwide." It's not yet.
Oh, and personally, I think it would be better if it were for CW single
operators, but that's just my selfish opinion - I'll take whatever I can
get and WRTC is a huge step in the right direction.
So that's what I am thinking. I'll shut up now for a few more years until
the sunspots come back.
Mark, N5OT
>From swca at swbell.net Thu Jul 18 16:35:06 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Unclear English alert continues
References: <000001c22e63$1c5b2310$6807a8c0@ac7nj>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020718135644.05716c40@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <093c01c22e9a$9c137f80$0100a8c0@TL01>
On this very reflector not an hour ago:
>75-ohm 3/4" CATV hardline...can often be bought for free.
Can you make change for a $0.00?
:)
>From juha.valimaki at lut.fi Fri Jul 19 00:23:53 2002
From: juha.valimaki@lut.fi (Juha Valimaki)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] C5- The Gambia ops needed Cq ww cw 2002
Message-ID: <1027023833.3d3723d9ea6e2@fela.cc.lut.fi>
C53M operators needed cq ww cw 2002
I am looking for more operators to join OH-based team operating from Gambia
(C5) in Cq ww cw 2002. Operating class at the moment seems to be M/S. This is a
suitcase style operation but we will try to have effective directional antennas
also in mult stations. Good low band verticals in the beach are also in the
list.
If interested contact oh9mm@sral.fi for further info.
Scandinavian ops: This is a ?normal? Tj?reborg ?charter trip. We will fly via
Stockholm so joining us could not be any easier. We have also negotiated a
group price...
73
Juha, OH9MM
----
Juha V?lim?ki
Teknologiapuistonkatu 4 A 1 GSM: +358 40 7041433
53850 lappeen Ranta e-mail's: juha.valimaki@lut.fi or oh9mm@sral.fi
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Thu Jul 18 19:11:32 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [TRLog] Various IARU issues
Message-ID: <14b.110b03ba.2a689714@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/18/2002 11:04:02 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
n0ss@earthlink.net writes:
> In the heat of a contest, it is sometimes difficult to remember to "QRL"
> each time you think you've found a clear freq, I must admit.
I program "?" into F6 and "QRL?' into F7. I try to remember to hit F7 every
time I find a new frequency for starting a run. I also use a Dymo Labelmaker
to mark all Function keys.
73, Geo...J75KG/K5KG
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Thu Jul 18 19:30:36 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs to move
to the new modes
and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL agrees)
that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal environments.
Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the noise
threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD applications
and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
73 Dave K4JRB
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Thu Jul 18 19:02:24 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] why pic IARU Radiosport to marry WRTC?
In-Reply-To: <00a601c22e78$a9d72e40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJGECOEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Isn't WRTC a big social event, too?
If it was in with any other big time contest or it's own contest, it seems
to me that that might take away from the social gathering aspects of the
event.
73,
dale, kg5u
>
> Re: Why IARU?
>
> Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
>
>
>
> My take:
>
> Summary - It is perfect fit - othwer than n0t being at the best
> time of year
> for radio propagation!
>
> Why:
>
> ...the event has to take place in the context of another contest
> - why upset
> the two biggees - CQWW and ARRL - they are the Kings
>
> ...the event has to be during a contest which allows both phone and cw
> operating to be showcased - need I say more
>
> ...W's need to be able to work W's and DL's need to be able to work DL's -
> when susnspot conditions are low and you have marginalized DXing you still
> need rate!
>
> .......is there another bi-modal worldwide event that is on all
> the HF bands
> that will work?
>
> Don't think so!
>
> What do you propose Mark???????????????
>
>
> Jim, K4OJ
>
>
>
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>From llindblom at juno.com Fri Jul 19 02:14:41 2002
From: llindblom@juno.com (Larry L Lindblom)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [TCG] NAQP RTTY TEAMS: LAST CALL
Message-ID: <20020719.012111.-625929.3.LLindblom@juno.com>
One more chance for anyone and everyone to join us on a TCG team for NAQP
RTTY. As you can see from those who have signed on the TCG now has an
international line up and welcomes anyone else who wants to have fun to
join us.
The line up so far includes:
W4GKM
K4RO
W4BCG
N1NB
KE4OAR
N2WK
W5CTV
AI9T
VE9DX
W4OX
W4LC
NY1S
KB5BOB
NN4T
VA3WN
PJ2EL
8P6SH
W9HLY
K9SZ
VA7SW
IK0HBN
W0ETC
Twenty-two people have signed on so there will be at least five TCG
teams. Team names under consideration include Hot Dogs, Hound Dogs, Junk
Yard Dogs, Cool Cats, and Alley Cats. Be you a growler or a hisser, be
you full time or part time, be you in the USA or elsewhere you are
welcome to join with us on a team.
Don't miss out on the team competition. E-mail me direct and you can
play with us. As always if your call is missing from the list please
resend your e-mail as I might of fat fingered it into the trash by
mistake.
73 & GL to all
W0ETC in IA
>From k5na at texas.net Fri Jul 19 03:42:30 2002
From: k5na@texas.net (Richard L. King)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719020602.02530b00@pop.texas.net>
2002 IARU Contest
W1AW/5 ARRL Headquarters Station
Location - Central Texas (Austin, Texas area)
CW Phone
Total
Band QSOs Points QSOs Points QSOs
Points Mults
160 177 375 156 296 333
671 11
80 329 771 444 1048 773
1819 27
40 824 2545 760 1778 1584
4323 55
20 1594 5966 2319 7522 3913
13488 87
15 1274 4766 1585 5339 2859
10105 92
10 402 1098 467 1277 869
2375 39
Total 4600 15521 5731 17260 10331
32781 311
Claimed Score: 32,781 x 311 = 10,194,891
This past year has been a busy one here in Central Texas while we prepared
for W1AW/5. Though we were given the W1AW/5 assignment over 3 years ago,
the planning got started in seriousness a year ago immediately after the
2001 IARU.
Six of the premier Central Texas stations agreed to participate - K5NA,
K5TR, N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT. Each of these stations could have been a
powerhouse on any of the bands or modes but the assignments were:
K5NA - 80M CW, 40M CW, & 15M SSB.
K5TR - 80M SSB & 20M SSB
N5CQ - 10M CW
N5TW - 160M CW & 20M CW.
NX5M - 160M SSB & 10M SSB.
W5KFT - 40M SSB & 15M SSB
W5XD wrote a special version of WriteLog for use by the headquarters
stations. Basically the new version allowed us to connect to a central
Internet server that fed QSOs back to all the W1AW/5 sites in real-time.
Each site could always tell what QSOs and mults each of the other band/mode
sites needed. The software also fed the frequencies of the radios back to
everyone to allow each station to move QSOs to other bands easily.
We had a total of about 15 computers set up at all the sites and each ended
up with the same QSO and multiplier numbers at the end of the contest. The
software was really awesome.
The 24 hours of the IARU were noisy because Central Texas was being hit
with wave after wave of thunderstorms. This condition caused high QRM on
all the bands and especially affected the low bands. The thunderstorms had
been occurring for several days before the contest and there was a lot of
flooding in the area. But no W1AW/5 sites were affected by flooding. The
rain static and thunderstorms were another matter.
The thunderstorms forced the N5TW, NX5M, & W5KFT sites to shut down at
different times during the contest as thunder cells passed by. Since the
logging system was real-time and current at all the sites, it was possible
for other sites to start working the vacated band/modes almost immediately
after the affected stations were shut down. A lot of cell phone calls were
made to coordinate this. Later the band/modes were switched back to the
original stations.
Our goal was to beat the old W1AW/p record set by W1AW/4 in 2000. However,
10 meters just didn't have much in the way of good conditions here and we
fell a little short. With sun spots going down, the W1AW/4 record may stand
for a few years. Our secondary goal was to beat NU1AW and the other
headquarters stations. But I haven't heard any other official HQ scores yet.
All the stations owners and operators had a great time doing this. It was
great fun.
Thanks to the K1ZZ and the ARRL for allowing us to do W1AW/5 in this
contest. Also thanks to W5XD for his work developing his terrific software
to support our effort and to AB5K for the special telnet node used
exclusively by all the W1AW/5 stations.
There will be more detailed information and breakdowns of the W1AW/5 effort
available on the net very soon.
73, Richard - K5NA
k5na@texas.net
>From ah3c at frii.com Thu Jul 18 20:14:21 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
<001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
<3D36EA17.1C9C49EC@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000401c22ed1$32833f60$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
I neglected to mention that all QSO's were in English with perfect use of
international phonetics. As referee, it was interesting to pick up the
requests for repeats during this run.....I counted 6! Robert has a great
SSB base voice (like OH2BH, N6TJ, and others). I did not count the number
of YU's worked during this run. I don't have the disk. The referee point
of view will be the subject of an article for NCJ.
----- Original Message -----
From: "K4SB" <hamcat@directvinternet.com>
To: "[Contest Reflector]" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
> "Peter Grillo, Sr." wrote:
> >
> > YU7BW (OJ2Q) had 254 QSO's on 20 SSB 1st hour!
>
> Well, perhaps one more story. In the late 80s, I and several others
> operated the
> CQWWSSB from V47. Now, to show the rediculous, we arranged for a top
> JA ( think his
> name was Yosi ) to be part of our team. Flew him over here at our
> expense, ect. Although he did operate other bands, his primary use was
> when openings to JA occured in late afternoon. His rate was absolutely
> fantastic, over 400+ per hour, and of course, in Japanese.
>
> So that may well be a consideration the next time a team is put
> together. Believe me, he had his buddies at home lined up like ducks
> in a shooting gallary. No doubt, the discipline of the JAs was also a
> factor.
>
> And yes, we did win.
>
> 73
> ed, k4sb
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>From k5zd at charter.net Fri Jul 19 04:35:29 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
In-Reply-To: <200207162046.g6GKkU5r012628@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDGEOLDKAA.k5zd@charter.net>
It is difficult to get logging software perfect for a contest that only
occurs every 2, 4, or 6 years and has different rules each time! N6TR,
K1EA, and W5XD (+SM6SRW) all did extra work to support WRTC. All
competitors were able to successfully log the contest!
What is interesting (and unexpected to me) is all the discussion about
logging software and scoring that has been generated. All of it due to the
online score reporting during the contest! I think we all know how funny
things that impact the score can get into a log during the contest and are
usually repaired before the log is submitted. With the WRTC online
reporting experiment, we got to see just how wildly varying some of these
things can be!
They do nothing to detract from the contest. They do point out some things
that could be further improved for future online score reporting
experiments.
The goal of the online reporting was to make the contest more visible to
everyone. In that regard, it was every bit as successful as had been hoped.
Give OH6KN and his team a pat on the back for pulling it off. It was fun.
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Mike Gilmer, N2MG
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 20:47 PM
> To: CQ-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
>
>
> I don't think I'd want to be the one to tell a WRTC competitor who has
> used CT for 10 years that he has to learn TRLog or SuperDuper or
> whatever. I believe it's pretty much the same reasoning behind letting
> the ops choose their own radios.
>
> But I agree that the software should have been tested...alas. It'll be
> interesting to see just what the bug was.
>
> -Mike N2MG
>
> The following message was sent by "David L. Thompson"
> <thompson@mindspring.com> on Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:40:50 -0400.
>
> > It seems that with all the effort to provide similar
> transceiver, location,
> > and antennas that the same software would be used. And the
> software should
> > be tested beforehand.
> >
> > I always run several different logs through my CQ 160 software
> each year to
> > assure its checking OK and get rid of bugs. Writelog authors and
> > supporters including K9JY say that for each contest you should
> always set up
> > a test log and give it a spin before the contest. With N6AA,
> K5ZD and other
> > logging experts on hand this should have been fundamental.
> >
> > I am also concerned that the address for e-mail logs filled up
> and kicked
> > back some logs.
> >
> > Otherwise congratulations to the contestants and sponsors.
> >
> > 73 Dave K4JRB
>
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>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 18 21:34:08 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
References: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DD7@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Message-ID: <00e601c22ed5$25f7be20$5a2afea9@sbcglobal.net>
Nope. Bug in the software caused all columns to be mis-aligned when station
worked again on subsequent band. Also then counted these as "new HQ mults",
grossly overstating the HQ mults real-time. We knew we could correct the
imbalance post-contest, but unfortunately the G.D. real-time scoreboard was
out there. At least it appears that it gave the old-timers someone to cheer
for.
While the software problem was a major distraction throughout the contest,
no excuses are offered here. We had a great time, a wonderful host/hostess
@ OH2HUH, a FB referee in OH6RX, and a very competitive station. We wish
now we could have a "do-over"!
All-in-all, a not to be missed event, and I hope the next one will be no
more than two years hence.
Our congratulations to all who played, and especially the Top Ten teams,
headed aptly by Jeff and Dan. (And as my wife observes, the most "normal"
guys there. Hmmm.........).
Our OH friends are also to be thanked for the very hard work they put in to
the games. It showed.
73
Jim Neiger
N6TJ ( OJ2F w/ N6AA)
(just off plane from Paris, and too pooped)
----- Original Message -----
From: <jukka.klemola@nokia.com>
To: <k6km@cncnet.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
> Winners N5TJ & K1TO
> Second RA3AUU & RV1AW
> Third DL6FBL & DL2CC
>
> AA & TJ lost a lot from their score, I do not
> have details of the reasons, but understanding
> is other one used caps lock and the other did not
> so some multis were counted twice.
>
> 73,
> Jukka
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ext Bill [mailto:k6km@cncnet.com]
> > Sent: 16 July, 2002 07:53
> > To: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi
> > Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hei OH-land!
> >
> > What is happening there?
> >
> > Please tell us supporters of WRTC02 WHO WON the
> > competition!
> >
> > Obviously there were some scoring problems, most
> > notably with N6TJ and N6AA. PLEASE tell us why their
> > score decreased as time passed; that should not be possible.
> >
> > PLEASE tell us why the N5KO/9V1YC score went
> > flat in the last few hours.
> >
> > PLEASE tell us which teams were associated with which
> > OJ callsigns!
> >
> > PLEASE tell us what's going on. To me, the delay in
> > reporting results means that POLITICS is coming in
> > to play and POLITICS may be more meaningful than
> > PERFORMANCE in determing the final results.
> >
> > PLEASE prove me wrong.
> >
> > As any one might expect, Team Finland did a wonderful
> > job preparing for and hosting WRTC 2002. Thank you
> > for that. But WHY have you kept the world in ignorance
> > as to the results?
> >
> > PLEASE TELL US WOT's UP!
> >
> > Bill K6KM
> > also OH2/K6KM and OH0/K6KM
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
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>From K4BEV at aol.com Fri Jul 19 00:45:05 2002
From: K4BEV@aol.com (K4BEV@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Solar full-halo eruption
Message-ID: <16f.10c19acd.2a68e541@aol.com>
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/07/17/sun.burst/index.html
Superb photo of a full-halo eruption.
May be some comm problems in our near future though.
K4BEV
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>From k2av at contesting.com Fri Jul 19 00:45:40 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
References: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <007501c22ed6$c09c1a10$0500a8c0@swift>
They can be replaced. When that particular chairman is gone, we will
still be here, sending code. Sounds like he doesn't have enough work
to do.
It's kinda like them telling an old car collector to get his '60
Thunderbird off the road.
PSK31 is growing leaps and bounds, all by itself, no help needed from
the FCC, and CW will remain an art form for a long time.
Voice, anything narrower than SSB around? WHAT new voice mode?
73, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move
> to the new modes
> and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
agrees)
> that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal
environments.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
>
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>
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Jul 19 00:06:50 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
In-Reply-To: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207182303030.8752-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
I dunno - it's still a hobby to me. I do it for fun. I've been doing CW
for 35 years because I'm good at it and I think it's fun.
I work with a guy who does Highland games. On some weekends they dress up
in kilts and throw rocks and sticks around. It's a hobby. They do it for
fun. Sure, a mortar can fire a rock farther than he can throw it, but
that isn't as much fun to him.
I'll keep doing CW (and sometimes SSB) and the new digital modes as long
as they continue to be fun to me.
73, Zack W9SZ
On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, David L. Thompson wrote:
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs to move
> to the new modes
> and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL agrees)
> that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal environments.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Fri Jul 19 05:13:26 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
References: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <3D3791E6.670BFBD7@directvinternet.com>
"David L. Thompson" wrote:
The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move
to the new modes and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He
said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in
weak signal environments.
.........
Oh yes, and ARRL also persuaded the FCC to create an absolutely
worthless "new band" on 5+ Mhz. Of course, this is going to mean
literally hundreds of thousands of dollars to the manufacturers. And
no doubt, the ARRL, in all it's wisdom, will pronounce this new band
to be acceptable in contests.
When I flew in the Navy, there was a particular hand signal sometimes
given by a flight leader to their wing man. It is best described a
holding your left hand palm down and horizontal, while making a fist
of your right hand and striking the left hand sharply a couple of
times.
It's meaning is "Get your head out of your ASS!"
73
Ed
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Fri Jul 19 05:18:38 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
<001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
<3D36EA17.1C9C49EC@directvinternet.com>
<000401c22ed1$32833f60$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <3D37931E.76EE60F2@directvinternet.com>
"Peter Grillo, Sr." wrote:
>
> I neglected to mention that all QSO's were in English with perfect use of
> international phonetics. As referee, it was interesting to pick up the
> requests for repeats during this run.>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "K4SB" <hamcat@directvinternet.com>
> > So that may well be a consideration the next time a team is put
> > together. Believe me, he had his buddies at home lined up like ducks
> > in a shooting gallary. No doubt, the discipline of the JAs was also a
> > factor.
In my comment, I now realize that I should have changed the subject.
For some of us, there are other contests besides the WRTC.
73
Ed
>From al_lorona at agilent.com Thu Jul 18 23:26:23 2002
From: al_lorona@agilent.com (al_lorona@agilent.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C1293@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
I know what you mean. I guess it makes little sense to use:
Sails in the age of boats with motors,
Pianos in the age of electronic keyboards,
Cotton in the age of polyester,
Gas stoves in the age of microwave ovens,
Hardy Boys in the age of Harry Potter,
Cash in the age of credit cards,
The local hardware store in the age of Home Depot,
Religion in the age of paganism,
Mozart in the age of Brittney Spears,
Eyeglasses in the age of laser surgery,
Actually going shopping in the age of buying on-line,
and books in the age of computers.
Anything old is bad. Anything new is not only better, but should replace
the old, and nobody should use the old anymore. Cuz it's old. Anyone who
does is just... well... old-fashioned, and is holding back the hobby from
progressing.
I can't believe the chairman made those comments, if he did make those
comments. Isn't it Colin Powell's son, or am I thinking of somebody else?
Dave, where did you get this information?
Al, W6LX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:30 PM
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
>
>
> > The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
> to move
> > to the new modes
> > and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
> agrees)
> > that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal
> environments.
> > Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
> noise
> > threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
> >
> > The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
> applications
> > and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
> >
> > So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
> >
> > 73 Dave K4JRB
>From sm2ekm at telia.com Fri Jul 19 09:26:31 2002
From: sm2ekm@telia.com (Jan Erik Holm)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Various IARU issues
References: <14b.110b03ba.2a689714@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3D37B117.60007@telia.com>
I did learn to ask if the frequency was in use 35 years ago and
just becourse you are in a contest doesn?t make it more difficult.
I always ask 2 - 3 times (usually 3 times) if it?s in use and sometimes
during CQWW when the band is wide open it might take me 5 minutes
to find a frequency I can use since it?s QRL all the time but that?s
part of the battle as far as I see it. If someone then tells me to move
after I?ve made 2 - 3 Q?s I will move but not if someone comes
around after 5 or 10 minutes and claim I took his frequency.
However, even being this carefull (I think I am at least) people
will get angry with me and claim I stole the frequency , you can?t
win all the time. Ofcourse I do make misstakes sometimes, i e if
I get on a frequency let?s say 250 times and follow the above
rutine I might make a misstake a few times, it?s crowded you
are thired and what not so it?s just human.
But bottom line, I don?t understan how people can think it?s
difficult to ask if the frequency is occupied.
Jim SM2EKM
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Georgek5kg@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 7/18/2002 11:04:02 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
>n0ss@earthlink.net writes:
>
>
>>In the heat of a contest, it is sometimes difficult to remember to "QRL"
>>each time you think you've found a clear freq, I must admit.
>>
>
>I program "?" into F6 and "QRL?' into F7. I try to remember to hit F7 every
>time I find a new frequency for starting a run. I also use a Dymo Labelmaker
>to mark all Function keys.
>
>73, Geo...J75KG/K5KG
>
>George I. Wagner, K5KG
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>From n3bb at mindspring.com Fri Jul 19 03:18:23 2002
From: n3bb@mindspring.com (Jim George)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <v02120d02b95d76e5e01b@EIM-Mac-1.5tcp>
Interesting question.
First off, the WRTC needs to be in a warm climate. It would be tough for
the station and antenna work to be in inclement weather. Second, the WRTC
must be imbedded in some form of contest, otherwise, the rich enviroment of
QSOs and multipliers available would not exist. In addition, the WRTC is
the championship of contesting, and therefore it needs to be in a
contesting environment, with both modes available. The IARU is not any of
the national contests, or regional. Realistically, that leaves the IARU in
the summer (northern hemisphere)as the only alternative The IARU's 24 hour
length is a good compromise between the full 48 hours and shorter
durations. The 24 hour length is important from the consideration of the
hosts and also the competitors and referees. From an overall perspective,
the IARU is a good environment.
Jim N3BB
>Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
>
>Mark, N5OT
>
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>From paul at ei5di.com Fri Jul 19 10:05:23 2002
From: paul@ei5di.com (Paul O'Kane)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
References: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <00a701c22eff$3cf4a780$e5a5fea9@dell>
---- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time
> for amateurs to move to the new modes and leave what he
> considers are obsolete modes.
The new FCC Chairman may not understand how Amateur Radio differs
from all other radio services.
> He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is
> superior to CW in weak signal environments.
This is correct, but it is irrelevant because PSK31, and other
data modes, cannot be decoded by the human ear alone.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals
> are below the noise threshold. Listen to the speaker
> and there is nothing!
Then, whatever it is, it's not amateur radio - pehaps it's amateur
data communications? In my book, if it's not Phone or CW, decoded
by the human ear alone in real-time, then it's not amateur radio.
73,
Paul EI5DI
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 19 11:55:08 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020719095508.00721d28@pop.vnet.net>
K4JRB wrote:
>The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move to the new modes and leave what he considers are obsolete modes.
And exactly what are his credentials? Do you think he has any
idea he knows what he is talking about? I don't.
http://www.fcc.gov/commissioners/powell/mkp_biography.html
Perhaps he would like to demonstrate digital modes are superior by
comparing contest results for existing contests. Here are high-claimed
CQ/RJ WW RTTY scores from last fall's contest:
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/2001-October/029841.html
The highest number of contacts made by any single op was 2461 QSO's
which is not even close to the typical CW or SSB SOAB scores. I even
made more than that myself on 10 meters alone! Isn't it about time
we stop taking these "expert" claims at face value and do a reality
check with the brain God has given us?
>He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW
in weak signal environments.
Then I have a challenge for CQ Magazine Dave. Replace the CQ
160 SSB contest (where SSB has already been proven inferior to CW) with
the CQ 160 PSK31 contest. Let's just see if Chariman Powell and ARRL's
claims are true rather than taking them at face value.
>Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the noise
threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
Sure some of the computer-to-computer modes (PSK31, WSJT, QRSS)
can extract signals below the noise level, but how quickly do you think
they could make contacts? A QRSS contest would be a real blast to hear
at ~0.8 words per hour!
>The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD applications
and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
So what? Most of the human element is being removed from DOD
applications (pilots, operators, etc.) My only question is "What do
you do when the computer or GPS fails?" I suppose whe have also
stopped teaching Commercial Marine captains how to use sextants, but
I wouldn't want to go to sea with one who didn't have one and know how
to use it. Rather than making ourselves totally dependent on technology
(which I am a firm believer in BTW), I would hope we are teaching our
military "what to do when the computer breaks".
>So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
I think it's time we stopped accepting some of the groundless
assertions we are getting from the FCC and ARRL. If we really believe
some digital mode is superior, let's put it to the (con)test, which is
the ultimate test of communicatins under extreme conditions. I have
yet to see any digital mode that would even come close but I would
gladly change my opinion if factually proven otherwise. Opinions from
FCC Chairman Powell just won't do it for me.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 19 12:10:46 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020719101046.0131f554@pop.vnet.net>
EI5DI replied to K4JRB:
**********************************************************************
> He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is
> superior to CW in weak signal environments.
This is correct, but it is irrelevant because PSK31, and other
data modes, cannot be decoded by the human ear alone.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals
> are below the noise threshold. Listen to the speaker
> and there is nothing!
Then, whatever it is, it's not amateur radio - pehaps it's amateur
data communications? In my book, if it's not Phone or CW, decoded
by the human ear alone in real-time, then it's not amateur radio.
**********************************************************************
I couldn't agree more Paul! When we can make a WSJT "QSO"
and submit our "QSL" for DXCC without ever actually having heard a
signal or done anything but look at our comuter screen, what is the
point? Is this amateur radio? I think it's something very close to
the Internet but I thought we already had that. Where is the human
element of hearing a signal with our own ears? It might be the future
but count me out because it frankly holds no interest for me.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 19 09:22:31 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
In-Reply-To: <007501c22ed6$c09c1a10$0500a8c0@swift>
References: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020719081036.02465b50@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 11:45 PM 7/18/02 -0400, Guy Olinger, K2AV wrote:
>They can be replaced. When that particular chairman is gone, we will
>still be here, sending code. Sounds like he doesn't have enough work
>to do.
>
>It's kinda like them telling an old car collector to get his '60
>Thunderbird off the road.
>
>PSK31 is growing leaps and bounds, all by itself, no help needed from
>the FCC, and CW will remain an art form for a long time.
>
>Voice, anything narrower than SSB around? WHAT new voice mode?
The only trouble is that there are only 5 Commissioners, who could decide
to change a lot of things we find important (like abolishing CW
subbands). If this proves to be a true report, then we also have to assume
that the people responsible for advising them on ham matters fed them this
misinformation, and there could be more on the way.
If (again) it's true, I suggest that hams write to the Chairman (copying
the other commissioners), in a calm and respectful manner, pointing out the
continued utility of CW for hams, its spectrum-conserving properties, and
urge him to continue to support this mode. Myself, I would point out the
international good-will aspect of amateur radio's statutory purpose, and
ask whether it makes sense for the FCC to move in directions that would
tend to lessen access of amateurs in lesser-developed countries.
The bottom line, to me, is that it doesn't have to be either-or -- CW can
remain, just like sailboats in an age of jet aircraft...
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From k9iua at yahoo.com Fri Jul 19 07:32:17 2002
From: k9iua@yahoo.com (Kevin Anderson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?)
Message-ID: <20020719133217.46920.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com>
I know I am one confused operator.
I personally found the IARU and WRTC being on
the same weekend to be very confusing. At times
they were talked about in the same breath, and
other times they are talked about separately.
In the end I feel like I never really understood
what went on this last weekend, particularly in
understanding exactly what WRTC was and how these
particular operators come to be associated.
I still am largely a new contest operator, at
least when compared to the experience level that
most of you have acquired. I suspect that there
are many other relatively new contestors who are
confused by the dual (or is that combined?) IARU
and WRTC contests on the same weekend. The
sponsors of both could do much more to help
clarify what is going on.
Cheers/73,
Kevin, K9IUA
=====
-------------------------------------
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k9iua (at) yahoo (dot) com
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>From Timothy.Urban at wc.ey.com Fri Jul 19 10:34:43 2002
From: Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com (Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <OF3AAA7286.370F36D6-ON85256BFB.004A2F4C@ey.com>
As a former military hf cw operator, I don't believe the statement about
the DoD is factually true. My connections back at Ft Bragg, home of the
US Army special warfare commo school tell me that cw is still a mandatory
part of the JFK Special Warfare Course.
Don't know anything about commercial marine communication.
73
Tim
N5IIT
cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
07/18/2002 06:30 PM
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
cc:
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs to
move
to the new modes
and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
agrees)
that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal environments.
Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the noise
threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
73 Dave K4JRB
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 19 14:55:15 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Correction: CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020719125515.00728fdc@pop.vnet.net>
I wrote:
>The highest number of contacts made by any single op was 2461 QSO's
which is not even close to the typical CW or SSB SOAB scores.
My apologies to K3MM at P40MM who made 2972 QSO's in the low
power category which will be the new SOABHP World record, but my point
still stands.
73, Bill W4ZV
P.S. I also wrote:
>A QRSS contest would be a real blast to hear at ~0.8 words per hour!
That's 0.0133 WPM CW! ;-)
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Fri Jul 19 10:59:53 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
Message-ID: <120.13682f4a.2a697559@aol.com>
W1AW/5:
Great job guys. It was fun chasing you around the bands...or being chased!
73, George J75KG/K5KG and Fred, J79MM/NA2U
George I. Wagner, K5KG
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 19 08:00:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 19Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207191400.g6JE0Zt15777@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 19Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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All M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
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All SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 8927 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
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All SO CW LP
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
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OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
RN4LP 1505 4683 251 24 1,175,433
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 14 463,606 HSDXA
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 k 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
K1HT 399 123 139 8 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
FM5GU 0 1492 99 9 609,246
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From n2mg at eham.net Fri Jul 19 12:04:44 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <200207191404.g6JE4i5r009456@contesting.com>
> (FCC Chairman Powell said) Amateurs are working each other with QRP
> where signals are below the noise threshold. Listen to the speaker
> and there is nothing!
Perhaps that's just what the FCC wants - all hams running 100mW with
crappy antennas chatting with their keyboards. No PRB-1, no CC&R
issues, no RFI, no exposure concerns...
Gee, sounds like the Internet, only, um worse!
Mike N2MG
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 19 11:52:16 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
References: <200207191333.g6JDX05r008807@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <00f801c22f33$e4629a20$03010a0a@office1>
I don't know guys, but something of this smells like a red herring that's
been left in the back seat of someone's car for a few days with the windows
up and the temperatures averaging the upper 90's (Farenheit, that is)
I just did a search through some of the news archives. I wanted to see
exactly what Chairman Powell was quoted as saying and in what context.
Guess what? If this happened recently (and I checked as far back as March),
no one seems to have reported it as a news item anywhere.
And isn't it curious that the original post states that this is a quote from
the "new FCC Chairman"? He's been FCC Chairman for quite some time now,
over a year I believe -- hardly new. And he's not mentioned by name.
Neither is the group of amateurs.
So before we jump off the handle and run around screaming at how unfair this
all is, or how it's inevitable, or how this is another ARRL plot to sell
more radios for the manufacturer's by giving us a worthless 5 MHz
allocation, or something else equally or moreso ridiculous, let's find out a
few things:
(a) Exactly who said this?
(b) Exactly when was it said?
(c) Exactly what was said?
(d) Exactly who was it said to?
If we don't know that, not only is this all wild speculation, but it has the
legitimacy of an anonymous email telling you to delete a file off your hard
drive calle AOL.EXE because it's an obvious virus that will destroy your
brain cells. Or something like that.
73, ron wn3vaw
"And they give you cash,
which is just as good as money!"
Yogi Berra, AFLAC Commercial, 2002
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Olinger, K2AV" <k2av@contesting.com>
To: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>,
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
They can be replaced. When that particular chairman is gone, we will
still be here, sending code. Sounds like he doesn't have enough work
to do.
It's kinda like them telling an old car collector to get his '60
Thunderbird off the road.
PSK31 is growing leaps and bounds, all by itself, no help needed from
the FCC, and CW will remain an art form for a long time.
Voice, anything narrower than SSB around? WHAT new voice mode?
73, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move
> to the new modes
> and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
agrees)
> that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal
environments.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
>
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>From wiess at zt.bialap.tpsa.pl Fri Jul 19 17:54:51 2002
From: wiess@zt.bialap.tpsa.pl (Wieslaw SP8SW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Thanks for fun - wrtc2002 fan
Message-ID: <000b01c22f34$3d3789d0$2da3ccc2@LBZ1NZTWS02>
Just ended event I waited last two years beeing fan of my participating in
it friends...
Many thanks to all who contribute to it; it was realy wonderfull HAM
festival in all world...
My illness did not get me chance participate in IARU HF and support them as
much as I hoped...
And now, when I am back at home, I gone to analyse photos and results - just
to experience this great time once again...
And found somethitng what I do not understand - with end classification of
teams...
On results page is linked to Excell file with scores :
http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/scores.xls
In that sheet - why some teams have qso points scored as arithmetic rule and
other not ?!
Seems, for most teams "QSO total" was counted "in mind", and not as Excell
rule ! There seems to be difference 10...104 QSO points - browsing sheet you
may see where is "QSOs total" counted, and where filled manualy..
Why ?
Sorry for this question and for my poor english. I hope it is simple
explanation that I, and many of hams - need know asap (no matter teams
positions..).
My best regards from east Poland
73 de Wies SP8SW (ex SP8NTW)
>From W4EF at dellroy.com Fri Jul 19 08:58:36 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Michael Tope)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
References: <1.5.4.32.20020719095508.00721d28@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <110701c22f34$c2aae620$6501a8c0@1800XP>
This all reminds me of the claims made about Fractal antennas.
Lots of articles were written about how "superior" fractal
antennas were compared with traditional methods of loading.
Oddly enough however, the only article I have ever seen that
made actual apples to apples comparisons between Fractal
and non-fractal loading methods actually showed that Fractals
elements were either the same or in some cases worse than
the non self-similar elements. Same thing goes with PSK31.
People listen to their audio outputs in a 3KHz
bandwidth and then are amazed when the soundcard can decode
signals they can't hear - well duh! A PSK31 signal is about 50
Hz wide, and so is the matched filter in the sound card - thats
about 17dB of additional SNR - no magic. Also, try cranking
up your Alpha to 1.5 KW output while running
PSK31. That is why everyone runs 5 watts, because that's how
far you'll need to back off your MIC gain before people stop
complaining about your IMD levels.
Somebody needs to run actuals link tests on a calibrated test bed
in various noise environments (impulse, gaussian, lightning static)
comparing CW and PSK31 before these assertions can be
verified. Maybe PSK31 does have some advantage, but I have
yet to see anything but anecdotal claims. Sounds like a good
paper for QEX magazine.
73 de Mike, W4EF.............................
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tippett" <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 2:55 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
> K4JRB wrote:
> >The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
> to move to the new modes and leave what he considers are obsolete modes.
>
> And exactly what are his credentials? Do you think he has any
> idea he knows what he is talking about? I don't.
>
> http://www.fcc.gov/commissioners/powell/mkp_biography.html
>
> Perhaps he would like to demonstrate digital modes are superior by
> comparing contest results for existing contests. Here are high-claimed
> CQ/RJ WW RTTY scores from last fall's contest:
>
> http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/2001-October/029841.html
>
> The highest number of contacts made by any single op was 2461 QSO's
> which is not even close to the typical CW or SSB SOAB scores. I even
> made more than that myself on 10 meters alone! Isn't it about time
> we stop taking these "expert" claims at face value and do a reality
> check with the brain God has given us?
>
> >He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW
> in weak signal environments.
>
> Then I have a challenge for CQ Magazine Dave. Replace the CQ
> 160 SSB contest (where SSB has already been proven inferior to CW) with
> the CQ 160 PSK31 contest. Let's just see if Chariman Powell and ARRL's
> claims are true rather than taking them at face value.
>
> >Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> Sure some of the computer-to-computer modes (PSK31, WSJT, QRSS)
> can extract signals below the noise level, but how quickly do you think
> they could make contacts? A QRSS contest would be a real blast to hear
> at ~0.8 words per hour!
>
> >The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So what? Most of the human element is being removed from DOD
> applications (pilots, operators, etc.) My only question is "What do
> you do when the computer or GPS fails?" I suppose whe have also
> stopped teaching Commercial Marine captains how to use sextants, but
> I wouldn't want to go to sea with one who didn't have one and know how
> to use it. Rather than making ourselves totally dependent on technology
> (which I am a firm believer in BTW), I would hope we are teaching our
> military "what to do when the computer breaks".
>
> >So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> I think it's time we stopped accepting some of the groundless
> assertions we are getting from the FCC and ARRL. If we really believe
> some digital mode is superior, let's put it to the (con)test, which is
> the ultimate test of communicatins under extreme conditions. I have
> yet to see any digital mode that would even come close but I would
> gladly change my opinion if factually proven otherwise. Opinions from
> FCC Chairman Powell just won't do it for me.
>
> 73, Bill W4ZV
>
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 19 09:14:39 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Claimed Scores Summary Reminder
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020719080218.00a41c88@pop3.eskimo.com>
Just a reminder because I am getting a lot of questions
as to why certain scores are not in the claimed score summary
even though they have been posted to 3830.
To get your score on the claimed scores please
go to: http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
It even says to do this at the top of each summary :>)
If you cannot go to or use this Web site, let me know and
I will input the data into the form for you. However, I
just cannot afford the time anymore to manually enter all
the data from individual "free style" summaries. Thanks
to Bruce, WA7BNM, the technology is here for a better
way to provide standardized score postings and you can
put just about anything you want in the comment section
(including your "free style" summary).
73 dink, n7wa
p.s. Thanks Bruce - for giving me time for my hobby again :>)
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Fri Jul 19 12:22:57 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719020602.02530b00@pop.texas.net>
Message-ID: <00e201c22f38$299ca140$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Congratulations on a great job representing the USA, Rich.
The Florida Contest Group had a blast two years ago as W1AW/4- you have
taken it to the next level for team USA by interconnecting multiple sites -
hats off to you and W5XD - great achievement - cannot imagine all the
screens in sync at the end of the contest from 6 different sites - WOW!
Talk about knowing who to pass and where to pass them!!!!!
...this was not do-able two years ago but now is history - very very cool -
this is the current level - what will be next? The HQ Radiosport station
offers an opportunity to do this kind of thing (multiple sites) that no
other contest can - and as contesters we all love using technology to stuff
our envelopes to the point of breaking, hi! I know that the logistics of
two years ago were tough - sure would have been nice to gab to "anyone
anywhere" on the network!
Go Team USA!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
& THE Florida Contest Group
FCG #1 WRTC02 - N5TJ + K1TO
FCG #4 WRTC02 - N6MJ + N2NL
...from Sunny Florida where we are awaiting the return from WRTC in Europe
of our President, Dan, K1TO (co- #1) and VP Jeff, WC4E (a referee)
Should the opportunity to operate one of these affairs ever become available
again I would jump at the chance - it was as they say "a hoot" - being a
unique multiplier by just jumping in your car to go to the local MM
station....neat.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard L. King <k5na@texas.net>
To: <3830@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; <ctdxcc@kkn.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:42 PM
Subject: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
> 2002 IARU Contest
>
> W1AW/5 ARRL Headquarters Station
>
> Location - Central Texas (Austin, Texas area)
>
> CW Phone
> Total
> Band QSOs Points QSOs Points QSOs
> Points Mults
>
> 160 177 375 156 296 333
> 671 11
> 80 329 771 444 1048 773
> 1819 27
> 40 824 2545 760 1778 1584
> 4323 55
> 20 1594 5966 2319 7522 3913
> 13488 87
> 15 1274 4766 1585 5339 2859
> 10105 92
> 10 402 1098 467 1277 869
> 2375 39
>
> Total 4600 15521 5731 17260 10331
> 32781 311
>
> Claimed Score: 32,781 x 311 = 10,194,891
>
> This past year has been a busy one here in Central Texas while we prepared
> for W1AW/5. Though we were given the W1AW/5 assignment over 3 years ago,
> the planning got started in seriousness a year ago immediately after the
> 2001 IARU.
>
> Six of the premier Central Texas stations agreed to participate - K5NA,
> K5TR, N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT. Each of these stations could have been
a
> powerhouse on any of the bands or modes but the assignments were:
>
> K5NA - 80M CW, 40M CW, & 15M SSB.
> K5TR - 80M SSB & 20M SSB
> N5CQ - 10M CW
> N5TW - 160M CW & 20M CW.
> NX5M - 160M SSB & 10M SSB.
> W5KFT - 40M SSB & 15M SSB
>
> W5XD wrote a special version of WriteLog for use by the headquarters
> stations. Basically the new version allowed us to connect to a central
> Internet server that fed QSOs back to all the W1AW/5 sites in real-time.
> Each site could always tell what QSOs and mults each of the other
band/mode
> sites needed. The software also fed the frequencies of the radios back to
> everyone to allow each station to move QSOs to other bands easily.
>
> We had a total of about 15 computers set up at all the sites and each
ended
> up with the same QSO and multiplier numbers at the end of the contest. The
> software was really awesome.
>
> The 24 hours of the IARU were noisy because Central Texas was being hit
> with wave after wave of thunderstorms. This condition caused high QRM on
> all the bands and especially affected the low bands. The thunderstorms had
> been occurring for several days before the contest and there was a lot of
> flooding in the area. But no W1AW/5 sites were affected by flooding. The
> rain static and thunderstorms were another matter.
>
> The thunderstorms forced the N5TW, NX5M, & W5KFT sites to shut down at
> different times during the contest as thunder cells passed by. Since the
> logging system was real-time and current at all the sites, it was possible
> for other sites to start working the vacated band/modes almost immediately
> after the affected stations were shut down. A lot of cell phone calls were
> made to coordinate this. Later the band/modes were switched back to the
> original stations.
>
> Our goal was to beat the old W1AW/p record set by W1AW/4 in 2000. However,
> 10 meters just didn't have much in the way of good conditions here and we
> fell a little short. With sun spots going down, the W1AW/4 record may
stand
> for a few years. Our secondary goal was to beat NU1AW and the other
> headquarters stations. But I haven't heard any other official HQ scores
yet.
>
> All the stations owners and operators had a great time doing this. It was
> great fun.
>
> Thanks to the K1ZZ and the ARRL for allowing us to do W1AW/5 in this
> contest. Also thanks to W5XD for his work developing his terrific software
> to support our effort and to AB5K for the special telnet node used
> exclusively by all the W1AW/5 stations.
>
> There will be more detailed information and breakdowns of the W1AW/5
effort
> available on the net very soon.
>
> 73, Richard - K5NA
>
> k5na@texas.net
>
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>From dennis.mcalpine at verizon.net Fri Jul 19 12:26:05 2002
From: dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net (Dennis McAlpine)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719020602.02530b00@pop.texas.net>
<00e201c22f38$299ca140$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <00aa01c22f38$99c517e0$ad3dca97@oemcomputer>
Yes, Jim, this year's ARRL HQ stations moved things up a bit but look at
some of the Europeans and their geographic diversification. Following their
example, why shouldn't we have stations spread out all over the country,
e.g. K1EA, N2RM, W3LPL, W4MYA, etc. In fact, given the geographic range,
why not have multiple statins on the same band, e.g. a W6 on 80 at the same
time as a W2. OK, so you can't have multiple statios on the same band. How
about a half hour from the East, then a half hour from midwest, then a half
hour from west coast and keep repeating the process. Tht would allow us to
use 36 different stations (6 bands X 2 modes x 3 stations per mode).
Imagine merging those logs.
73,
Dennis K2SX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim White, K4OJ" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <3830@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; <ctdxcc@kkn.net>;
"Richard L. King" <k5na@texas.net>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
> Congratulations on a great job representing the USA, Rich.
>
> The Florida Contest Group had a blast two years ago as W1AW/4- you have
> taken it to the next level for team USA by interconnecting multiple
sites -
> hats off to you and W5XD - great achievement - cannot imagine all the
> screens in sync at the end of the contest from 6 different sites - WOW!
> Talk about knowing who to pass and where to pass them!!!!!
>
> ...this was not do-able two years ago but now is history - very very
cool -
> this is the current level - what will be next? The HQ Radiosport station
> offers an opportunity to do this kind of thing (multiple sites) that no
> other contest can - and as contesters we all love using technology to
stuff
> our envelopes to the point of breaking, hi! I know that the logistics of
> two years ago were tough - sure would have been nice to gab to "anyone
> anywhere" on the network!
>
> Go Team USA!
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, K4OJ
>
> & THE Florida Contest Group
>
> FCG #1 WRTC02 - N5TJ + K1TO
> FCG #4 WRTC02 - N6MJ + N2NL
>
>
> ...from Sunny Florida where we are awaiting the return from WRTC in Europe
> of our President, Dan, K1TO (co- #1) and VP Jeff, WC4E (a referee)
>
>
> Should the opportunity to operate one of these affairs ever become
available
> again I would jump at the chance - it was as they say "a hoot" - being a
> unique multiplier by just jumping in your car to go to the local MM
> station....neat.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard L. King <k5na@texas.net>
> To: <3830@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; <ctdxcc@kkn.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:42 PM
> Subject: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
>
>
> > 2002 IARU Contest
> >
> > W1AW/5 ARRL Headquarters Station
> >
> > Location - Central Texas (Austin, Texas area)
> >
> > CW Phone
> > Total
> > Band QSOs Points QSOs Points QSOs
> > Points Mults
> >
> > 160 177 375 156 296 333
> > 671 11
> > 80 329 771 444 1048 773
> > 1819 27
> > 40 824 2545 760 1778 1584
> > 4323 55
> > 20 1594 5966 2319 7522 3913
> > 13488 87
> > 15 1274 4766 1585 5339 2859
> > 10105 92
> > 10 402 1098 467 1277 869
> > 2375 39
> >
> > Total 4600 15521 5731 17260 10331
> > 32781 311
> >
> > Claimed Score: 32,781 x 311 = 10,194,891
> >
> > This past year has been a busy one here in Central Texas while we
prepared
> > for W1AW/5. Though we were given the W1AW/5 assignment over 3 years ago,
> > the planning got started in seriousness a year ago immediately after the
> > 2001 IARU.
> >
> > Six of the premier Central Texas stations agreed to participate - K5NA,
> > K5TR, N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT. Each of these stations could have
been
> a
> > powerhouse on any of the bands or modes but the assignments were:
> >
> > K5NA - 80M CW, 40M CW, & 15M SSB.
> > K5TR - 80M SSB & 20M SSB
> > N5CQ - 10M CW
> > N5TW - 160M CW & 20M CW.
> > NX5M - 160M SSB & 10M SSB.
> > W5KFT - 40M SSB & 15M SSB
> >
> > W5XD wrote a special version of WriteLog for use by the headquarters
> > stations. Basically the new version allowed us to connect to a central
> > Internet server that fed QSOs back to all the W1AW/5 sites in real-time.
> > Each site could always tell what QSOs and mults each of the other
> band/mode
> > sites needed. The software also fed the frequencies of the radios back
to
> > everyone to allow each station to move QSOs to other bands easily.
> >
> > We had a total of about 15 computers set up at all the sites and each
> ended
> > up with the same QSO and multiplier numbers at the end of the contest.
The
> > software was really awesome.
> >
> > The 24 hours of the IARU were noisy because Central Texas was being hit
> > with wave after wave of thunderstorms. This condition caused high QRM on
> > all the bands and especially affected the low bands. The thunderstorms
had
> > been occurring for several days before the contest and there was a lot
of
> > flooding in the area. But no W1AW/5 sites were affected by flooding. The
> > rain static and thunderstorms were another matter.
> >
> > The thunderstorms forced the N5TW, NX5M, & W5KFT sites to shut down at
> > different times during the contest as thunder cells passed by. Since the
> > logging system was real-time and current at all the sites, it was
possible
> > for other sites to start working the vacated band/modes almost
immediately
> > after the affected stations were shut down. A lot of cell phone calls
were
> > made to coordinate this. Later the band/modes were switched back to the
> > original stations.
> >
> > Our goal was to beat the old W1AW/p record set by W1AW/4 in 2000.
However,
> > 10 meters just didn't have much in the way of good conditions here and
we
> > fell a little short. With sun spots going down, the W1AW/4 record may
> stand
> > for a few years. Our secondary goal was to beat NU1AW and the other
> > headquarters stations. But I haven't heard any other official HQ scores
> yet.
> >
> > All the stations owners and operators had a great time doing this. It
was
> > great fun.
> >
> > Thanks to the K1ZZ and the ARRL for allowing us to do W1AW/5 in this
> > contest. Also thanks to W5XD for his work developing his terrific
software
> > to support our effort and to AB5K for the special telnet node used
> > exclusively by all the W1AW/5 stations.
> >
> > There will be more detailed information and breakdowns of the W1AW/5
> effort
> > available on the net very soon.
> >
> > 73, Richard - K5NA
> >
> > k5na@texas.net
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>From felipe at isla.net Fri Jul 19 12:59:05 2002
From: felipe@isla.net (Felipe J. Hernandez)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <v02120d02b95d76e5e01b@EIM-Mac-1.5tcp>
Message-ID: <000601c22f3d$35669120$4800640a@isla.net>
Just imagine all the money to be spent in marketing to draw the same
amount of participation as a contest like the IARU.
I personally think that the conbination couldn't be better, obviously
under
Low solar activity the site chosen has to be in a location with
propagation advantages.
Maybe Puerto rico Who knows...
Felipe
NP4Z
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim George
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 4:18 AM
To: Mark Beckwith
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Interesting question.
First off, the WRTC needs to be in a warm climate. It would be tough
for
the station and antenna work to be in inclement weather. Second, the
WRTC
must be imbedded in some form of contest, otherwise, the rich enviroment
of
QSOs and multipliers available would not exist. In addition, the WRTC
is
the championship of contesting, and therefore it needs to be in a
contesting environment, with both modes available. The IARU is not any
of
the national contests, or regional. Realistically, that leaves the IARU
in
the summer (northern hemisphere)as the only alternative The IARU's 24
hour
length is a good compromise between the full 48 hours and shorter
durations. The 24 hour length is important from the consideration of
the
hosts and also the competitors and referees. From an overall
perspective,
the IARU is a good environment.
Jim N3BB
>Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
>
>Mark, N5OT
>
>
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>From dhenderson at arrl.org Fri Jul 19 14:26:00 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A couple of reminders about IARU Scores
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC044F918E@kahless.arrlhq.org>
A couple of items...
I. Many contesters sent the WRTC 2002 Committee their logs immediately
after the contest to assist in their adjudication of their event. Many of
those logs sent directly to WRTC were sent before the submitter did their
own "sanity check" on the entry. I have been asked by several stations that
sent their logs to the WRTC for their "early bird" logs to assist in score
of that event if I have received their log from the WRTC 2002 organizing
committee.
The administration of the IARU HF Contest is completely separate from the
WRTC 2002 officials. The WRTC Committee used the early submitted logs to
assist them with their adjudication of their event. They did not screen
logs for any of the information that is needed by the ARRL in order to
accurately report and adjudicate the IARU HF Contest. Receiving logs
directly from WRTC 2002 could leave the ARRL with logs that contained
problems, making them difficult or impossible to use for the official
contest results.
You must send in your IARU HF World Championship to either iaruhf@arrl.org
or iaruhf@iaru.org in order for your results to be included in the official
contest results.
The ARRL Contest Branch will not be receiving the "early bird" logs from
WRTC.
II. Several stations have questioned why the ARRL-SECTION: field is required
in the Cabrillo log header.
The ARRL administers the contest at no cost to the IARU or the other member
societies. The ARRL-SECTION: Field in the header allows us to do several
things which help result in a more accurate reporting of the results. The
ARRL issues awards to stations in the ARRL/RAC Field Organization based on
their official section. So for W/VE stations, we have to have the ARRL
section information in order to determine awards. The use of the term "DX"
in that field for DX stations allows us to sort non-W/VE logs into a
separate queue for processing, reporting, and for determining awards for
non-ARRL or RAC member society stations.
Thanks for your help.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Fri Jul 19 18:51:25 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
References: <200207191333.g6JDX05r008807@contesting.com>
<00f801c22f33$e4629a20$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <3D38519D.B9EAC57C@directvinternet.com>
Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
> I just did a search through some of the news archives. I wanted to see
> exactly what Chairman Powell was quoted as saying and in what context.
> Guess what? If this happened recently (and I checked as far back as March),
> no one seems to have reported it as a news item anywhere.
Well, I saw and read the entire comment also. It was a quote from
Chairman Powell. It very well be it was included in the ARRL letter
sent out every friday to those who subscribe.
Those who have mentioned this are very accurate in their reporting,
and it happened.
Why don't you query the ARRL about it if you are so unable to accept
the word of many
well known and respected hams?
And by the way, I would be very careful in quoting in the signature
file what is undoubably a highly guarded and copywrited commercial.
73
Ed
>From ad1c at yahoo.com Fri Jul 19 14:00:21 2002
From: ad1c@yahoo.com (Jim Reisert)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARLB044 The ARRL Board of Directors convenes July 19-21
in Windsor, Connecticut
Message-ID: <20020719200021.48868.qmail@web13603.mail.yahoo.com>
ZCZC AG44
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 44 ARLB044
>From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT July 19, 2002
To all radio amateurs
SB QST ARL ARLB044
ARLB044 The ARRL Board of Directors convenes July 19-21 in Windsor,
Connecticut
The ARRL Board of Directors convenes July 19-21 in Windsor,
Connecticut, for its mid-year meeting. Among the issues up for
consideration is whether to drop ''Section News'' and contest line
scores from QST and move them to the ARRL Web site. The Board
delayed a decision on the matter at its January meeting, saying it
wanted members to be aware of the reasons behind the proposal and to
evaluate alternative ideas.
Also up for discussion are preparations for World Radiocommunication
Conference 2003, including an update on efforts to secure a 300-kHz
worldwide amateur allocation at 40 meters.
Addressing Board members, guests and ARRL staff members July 18
prior to the formal Board session, FCC Special Counsel for
Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth said that while enforcement will be
''maintaining the course,'' he's hoping by year's end to mount ''a more
aggressive stance'' against 10-meter incursions by unlicensed
individuals. He said that using 10-meters was among the best
defenses against intruders. Hollingsworth also met with ARRL staff
members July 19 to discuss specific areas of concern and
cooperation.
Board members also will consider nominees for several ARRL-sponsored
awards.
NNNN
/EX
=====
Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863
USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
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>From kc1f at adelphia.net Fri Jul 19 21:04:31 2002
From: kc1f@adelphia.net (Stuart Santelmann)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UA1 antennas
Message-ID: <003101c22f57$319984c0$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Hello:
I just got back from WRTC as a referee, and 18 of us continued on to the
post-contest excursion to St. Petersburg in Russia. Some of us spotted some
BIG HF antennas on the roof of a several story building near the "Kissing
Bridge" (it's a long story), and I guess it's also near, or on top of the
Cadet School of something. We saw five or six element monobanders, plus
some other stuff. Anyone know what station this is ? Could it be RU1A ?
Although our tour guide knew everything about the art in the museums, she
didn't know from antennas, hi...
Thanks in advance... Stu KC1F
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 19 17:49:51 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Alleged Powell Statements
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020719164702.04fc36e0@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
For what it's worth, I have just searched the ARRL web site for any
reference to FCC Chairman Powell's comments on CW, without success. It
looks as if all the comments on the reflector are based on an original
message by Dave, K4JRB. Dave, can you pinpoint your source for us?
73, Pete N4ZR
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 19 22:48:39 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] August CQ Magazine Online (sort of)
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020719204839.0073cbe8@pop.vnet.net>
I was searching CQ Magazine's site for an e-mail address
to check my subscription expiration and was quite surprised to
see several new features on the Website for the August issue which
includes the CQ WW SSB results:
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/August%202002%20Highlights.html
"Next, we've got the contest results themselves, with expanded results
here on the CQ website. These include: Expanded "QRM" (operator
comments); Station Operators at Multi-op Stations; Top Scores in Very
Active Zones; Zone Leaders (Single Op); and expanded Team
Contesting results."
Only the 'Expanded QRM' and 'Station Operators at Multi-op Stations'
hyperlinks are active at the moment but I assume the others will be
put online soon. I guess ARRL's expanded online reports have
stimulated CQ to do the same! Thanks CQ!
73, Bill W4ZV
P.S. Now I wonder when the CQ WW Contest Records will be updated?
Some of those records are now 2 years old:
http://www.cqww.com/intro.htm
>From n5nw at n5nw.org Fri Jul 19 18:39:43 2002
From: n5nw@n5nw.org (Marty N5NW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?)
References: <20020719133217.46920.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006a01c22f6e$0fd6ab30$3339a8c0@dayton.hospiceofdayton.org>
Don't be confused ... WRTC is an invitation-only event. Only 42 (41?)
stations participated.
IARU is a world wide "open" event.
We only participate in WRTC as contacts. Our log submissions were, for our
purposes, only checklogs.
The only awards I am aware of were prizes (somewhat random) for submitting a
checklog.
IARU will have rankings of all participants.
Hope this helps ...
de N5NW/8 (Marty)
Bellbrook, Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Anderson" <k9iua@yahoo.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 9:32 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?)
> I know I am one confused operator.
> I personally found the IARU and WRTC being on
> the same weekend to be very confusing. At times
> they were talked about in the same breath, and
> other times they are talked about separately.
> In the end I feel like I never really understood
> what went on this last weekend, particularly in
> understanding exactly what WRTC was and how these
> particular operators come to be associated.
>
> I still am largely a new contest operator, at
> least when compared to the experience level that
> most of you have acquired. I suspect that there
> are many other relatively new contestors who are
> confused by the dual (or is that combined?) IARU
> and WRTC contests on the same weekend. The
> sponsors of both could do much more to help
> clarify what is going on.
>
> Cheers/73,
> Kevin, K9IUA
>
>
> =====
> -------------------------------------
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> k9iua (at) yahoo (dot) com
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>
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 19 18:55:27 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
Message-ID: <01aa01c22f6f$19eaf8a0$03010a0a@office1>
I was just informed of the recent response to my earlier post. Good thing I
went on-line to see it (I normally only get the digest), although the nature
of that reply is sad.
Since a personal, ah, response like that does not belong on the list but
should be handled direct, let me reply generically since there is some
mis-interpretation of my motive here:
I'm not saying that the quote is neccesarily wrong or inaccurate. Yeah, it
looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, but that doesn't neccesarily mean
it's a duck (it could be a silly rabbit in disguise). For that reason, and
considering the responses on it to date, I went looking for it -- and
couldn't find it.
Could I have missed it? Sure. That's one of the reasons I asked. But the
thing is, if you look at the news items on the ARRL Web Site, you'll notice
that most or all of the news items there end up in the weekly ARRL Letter in
some form or another. And you'd think something like this would qualify as
a news item, wouldn't it?
I've also noticed only the original post from K4JRB actually quotes from
this alleged meeting. Everyone else is replying to it. This is NOT, again,
to say that Dave is wrong -- far from it. But just because a lot of replies
included the original post is hardly the same thing as a bunch of us saying
"yeah, I read that too!"
My point originally was simply to FIND the original comments that Dave was
quoting from IN CONTEXT. Then evaluate the information and make up my own
mind. Otherwise we're dealing with information that is no more reliable
than another internet or urban myth.
So am I now to understand that if I don't agree with the vocal minority I'm
presumed to be against them? That's sad.
The key four questions were never answered: Who said it, who heard it, what
exactly was said, and when. Instead, I got slammed for raising them. That
alone says quite a lot, but let it rest. Suffice to say that if the biggest
argument that was made was criticizing my signature line... really.
Although this suddenly makes another one more relevant for the moment.
Does anyone know the facts, or are we just reacting to a tall tale?
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
I don't know guys, but something of this smells like a red herring that's
been left in the back seat of someone's car for a few days with the windows
up and the temperatures averaging the upper 90's (Farenheit, that is)
I just did a search through some of the news archives. I wanted to see
exactly what Chairman Powell was quoted as saying and in what context.
Guess what? If this happened recently (and I checked as far back as March),
no one seems to have reported it as a news item anywhere.
And isn't it curious that the original post states that this is a quote from
the "new FCC Chairman"? He's been FCC Chairman for quite some time now,
over a year I believe -- hardly new. And he's not mentioned by name.
Neither is the group of amateurs.
So before we jump off the handle and run around screaming at how unfair this
all is, or how it's inevitable, or how this is another ARRL plot to sell
more radios for the manufacturer's by giving us a worthless 5 MHz
allocation, or something else equally or moreso ridiculous, let's find out a
few things:
(a) Exactly who said this?
(b) Exactly when was it said?
(c) Exactly what was said?
(d) Exactly who was it said to?
If we don't know that, not only is this all wild speculation, but it has the
legitimacy of an anonymous email telling you to delete a file off your hard
drive calle AOL.EXE because it's an obvious virus that will destroy your
brain cells. Or something like that.
73, ron wn3vaw
"And they give you cash,
which is just as good as money!"
Yogi Berra, AFLAC Commercial, 2002
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Olinger, K2AV" <k2av@contesting.com>
To: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>,
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
They can be replaced. When that particular chairman is gone, we will
still be here, sending code. Sounds like he doesn't have enough work
to do.
It's kinda like them telling an old car collector to get his '60
Thunderbird off the road.
PSK31 is growing leaps and bounds, all by itself, no help needed from
the FCC, and CW will remain an art form for a long time.
Voice, anything narrower than SSB around? WHAT new voice mode?
73, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move
> to the new modes
> and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
agrees)
> that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal
environments.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
>
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 19 19:07:28 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] August CQ Magazine Online (sort of)
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020719204839.0073cbe8@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020719180621.02456c80@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 09:48 PM 7/19/02 +0100, Bill Tippett wrote:
>I guess ARRL's expanded online reports have
>stimulated CQ to do the same! Thanks CQ!
But note that CQ is apparently reserving the line scores for the magazine,
while after this week's ARRL board meeting I think we can assume that line
scores in QST will be history.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From N5RP at pdq.net Fri Jul 19 23:37:33 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UA1 antennas
In-Reply-To: <003101c22f57$319984c0$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020719223701.009f80f0@pop.pdq.net>
At 20:04 7/19/02 +0100, Stuart Santelmann wrote:
>Hello:
>
> I just got back from WRTC as a referee, and 18 of us continued on to the
>post-contest excursion to St. Petersburg in Russia. Some of us spotted some
>BIG HF antennas on the roof of a several story building near the "Kissing
>Bridge" (it's a long story), and I guess it's also near, or on top of the
>Cadet School of something. We saw five or six element monobanders, plus
>some other stuff. Anyone know what station this is ?
===============>
Belongs to a Finnish businessman, as I remember.
Call, I do not know.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From john-k1rc at juno.com Fri Jul 19 22:53:17 2002
From: john-k1rc@juno.com (john-k1rc@juno.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
Message-ID: <20020719.215423.-312161.1.john-k1rc@juno.com>
On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:52:16 -0400 "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
writes:
> I don't know guys, but something of this smells like a red herring
> that's been left in the back seat of someone's car for a few days with
the
> windows up and the temperatures averaging the upper 90's (Farenheit,
that
> is)
> ===/Snip/===
Maybe Ron isn't so far off base. Lets look at it yet another way...
Could it be that someone is just testing the waters to see what
the overall the reaction would be, before (the illusive) "THEY"
try to slip some type of rule making to the commissioners
( maybe under the table, disguised in some other docket)?
Like a politician trying to find out what the people think of him
and his views before he sticks his neck out, running for office
and getting hacked to bits.
(Poor example but couldn't think of any other at the moment)
Maybe if this thread didn't generate as much debate, "THEY"
might think;
"These hams don't really care either way, whether we change
the rules, dump CW and SSB and force everyone to use digital
or other more modern modes.
So lets do it and "sock it to 'em" then tell them and listen to
them "whine"after its too late to do anything about it."
I could be wrong, but then again I could be right.......
Just my cynical 2 cents..
CU on the old modes, and any others I have capability for,
John K1RC
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>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Fri Jul 19 23:33:52 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WriteLog] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
Message-ID: <197.a00610a.2a6a2610@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/15/2002 6:16:11 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
n2nu@arrl.net writes:
> I worked three maritime mobile stations in the IARU test and logged them as
> xxnxxx/MM (e.g. SP2AVE/MM). In all cases, these were logged as 0 point
> contacts in my version of WriteLog. I cannot find any reference at all to
> MM stations in the rules, and I would think that these should be logged as
> 5 pointers since they were outside the continent and zone... In one case
> the station gave me a new zone multiplier (which the program counts), even
> though it was still logged as 0 points!
>
> Clarification on the rules, anyone?
>
John,
Did you get an answer to your question about /mm stations. We too worked two
/mm stations, and they were scored as 0 points by WL. One was UT1FG/MM in
zone 46 which did count as a zone multiplier.
73, Geo...
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
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941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From n5nw at n5nw.org Sat Jul 20 00:57:33 2002
From: n5nw@n5nw.org (Marty N5NW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?)
In-Reply-To: <NCBBIPEKMKEIENBFHFHJMENDFEAA.mjwetzel@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <NGBBIMJEELMGMFPMHEAGIEIFCBAA.n5nw@n5nw.org>
Sri for the error. 52 teams invited to play in WRTC, not 41 or 42 as
mentioned. Point still stands, though. The WRTC is for those guys -- the
rest of us are contact fodder. The IARU is that weekend's contest for the
rest of us.
de N5NW/8
>From rw4pl at mi.ru Sat Jul 20 05:54:22 2002
From: rw4pl@mi.ru (Andrey RW4PL)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UA1 antennas
Message-ID: <200207200454.g6K4sXF97828@mail.melt.ru>
Hello Stuart.
>From: "Stuart Santelmann" <kc1f@adelphia.net>
> We saw five or six element monobanders, plus
>some other stuff. Anyone know what station this is ? Could it be RU1A ?
>Although our tour guide knew everything about the art in the museums, she
>didn't know from antennas, hi...
> Thanks in advance... Stu KC1F
Please see about russian big gans on the : http://www.contest.ru/
Good luck!
Andrey. mail to rw4pl@mi.ru
rw4pl@mail.ru
>From lz4ax at psu.edu Sat Jul 20 02:33:19 2002
From: lz4ax@psu.edu (Alexander Avramov)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UA 1 antennas
Message-ID: <00bb01c22fae$f55bbc00$15a7cb82@computer>
Yeah ! I'm glad to hear they are still there. I was in the same situation like
you exactly 17 years ago - staying on the bridge and staring at the roof -hi.
However, I had the advantage to be more or less fluent in russian and I even
made an attempt to go inside the building. As you can guess, the door keeper
wasn't very happy to see some 17-year old teenager speaking with strange accent
and asking even more strange questions about some stuff on the roof. So I was
told that it's too late (about 6PM) and there is nobody left which evidently
wasn't true -hi. That was my first and last attempt to get in touch with
russian HAMs during my stay there.
So, about your question - the antennas belong to RZ1AWT, the club station at
the State Institute of Aerospace Technology. It's not RU1A but if I'm not
mistaken RU1A team consists mostly of RZ1AWT members. RU1A is strictly a
contest site and is situated out of the sity, so I'm wondering why the
organizers of this excursion didn't arrange something with RU1A gang - it could
have been really interesting, at least this the biggest MS in this part of
Europe. Actually 2 guys from RU1A - RW1AC and RV1AW were among WRTC contesters.
Well, I hope you enjoyed your stay in the world's most beautiful city (sorry
Paris, you're still far behind) and you'll keep good memories of that.
73,
Alex LZ4AX/AA3AX
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Sat Jul 20 03:33:27 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] the Eagle and the TOad have landed
Message-ID: <01f601c22fb7$5ba8b960$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
A small group of about a dozen enthusiastic members and friends of the
Florida Contest Group met WC4 E and K1 TO as they landed in Tampa tonight -
I mean this morning...
WC4E was a referee at the WRTC in Finland this year and as we all know K1TO
was again co-champion with N5TJ...
The bleary eyed duo having been flying for 21 hours was greeted with posters
balloons and official hoopla!
Thanks to all the FCG members who made it out tonight - and stayed despite
their flight being delayed for over three hours...
I think they couldn't get off the ground in Philadelphia because the
Frankford Radio Club was plotting to steal K1TO away from the FCG - not a
chance!
Welcome Home Jeff The Ref and Dan The Man
K4FCG
>From yt3t at absolutok.net Sat Jul 20 09:32:00 2002
From: yt3t@absolutok.net (Kele YT3T)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: UA1 antennas
References: <200207200238.g6K2c25r019631@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <002601c22fb7$30615140$9be45d50@jstajcic>
> Cadet School of something. We saw five or six element monobanders, plus
> some other stuff. Anyone know what station this is ? Could it be RU1A ?
<kc1f>
Hi Stu,
if you have ever checked score submissions by RU1A, you would not make such
underestimates of their antennas.
It is obvious that, when using indoor dipole made of copper tape sticked to
the window, one forgets that EVEN UA1 can run 4x5 ele H framed stacked yagis
on 15m band, or monster 40m yagi... :-)
73 Kele YU1AO
(WRTC 2K ref to Geo & Jeff)
http://QSLL.com
>From K7LXC at aol.com Sat Jul 20 06:06:30 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC vs. IARU
Message-ID: <4FAE9C1D.4C1DF043.0000DB5D@aol.com>
In a message dated Fri, 19 Jul 2002 3:18:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
n3bb@mindspring.com writes:
> >Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
Hmm, I think the answer is very simple. The original WRTC was held in
conjuction with the Goodwill Games which was held in Seattle in July, 1990.
That was the only window of opportunity that could have allowed the Russian
guys to attend. We on the organizing committee approached the ITU for some sort
of special multiplier status but they weren't interested. So then we decided to
have a separate contest which was very problematic because we were giving a
party and didn't know if anyone would show up. Fortunately people came and it
all turned out great.
The current WRTC events perhap are more historically tied to a July
timeframe from the beginning and coincidentally the IARU test fits the bill
from a WRTC standpoint.
I have to chuckle about the previously posted analytical comments of 'why
the IARU' because originally we didn't consider them - we just made it up as we
went along!
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
WRTC Seattle Co-Chairman
WRTC Sanctiong Committee Chairman
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Sat Jul 20 08:34:16 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Cleanup
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKEAIDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Folks....
Both my laptop and my 756pro acquired an overspray of OFF,
from the overnight gang at field day. Mostly on the major
caseworks...not display or knobs/keyboard, for the most part.
Any thoughts about cleaning techniques?
The alcohol impregnated screen cleaner wipes don't budge it.
Am about to try a damp cloth with a bit of soap....with an
alcohol wipe follow-up.
Ideas most welcome.
Jim/N2EA
>From okomdxc at radioamater.cz Sat Jul 20 14:47:59 2002
From: okomdxc@radioamater.cz (OK-OM DX Contest Committee)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OK-OM DX Contest 2001 - filnal results available
Message-ID: <128282581.20020720134759@radioamater.cz>
Dr. OM!
Final results of OK-OM DX Contest 2001 are available at
http://okomdx.radioamater.cz.
Log checking engine is made by Zdenek, OK1DSZ
(webmaster@radioamater.cz), all thanks to him!
In case of any questions please be patient, it's time of holidays...
I will be QRV since 1st of August.
73!
Martin Huml
OK1FUA, in the contests: OL5Y, IH9/OL5Y, IH9P, S586U (WRTC 2000), 9A0A
OK-OM DX Contest director
OKOMDXC@radioamater.cz
http://okomdx.radioamater.cz
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Sat Jul 20 09:11:19 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WriteLog] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
Message-ID: <7e.2ac95273.2a6aad67@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/20/2002 11:48:56 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
cwman@juno.com writes:
> I sent a reply to John. Wasn't there something in the rules about R1 and R2
> (Region 1 and Region 2)?
>
Here is what the IARU rules say:
8. Multipliers: The total number of ITU zones plus IARU member society HQ
stations worked on each band (not mode.) IARU officials represent a maximum
of four multipliers per band (AC, R1, R2 and R3).
So, R1, R2 and R3 are IARU officials, like PA0LOU, not ITU regions of the
world.
Seems to me that /mm stations should score 1, 3 or 5 points, depending on
their location in or out of your zone/continent.
73, Geo...
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From k4bai at worldnet.att.net Sat Jul 20 09:54:34 2002
From: k4bai@worldnet.att.net (John T. Laney, III)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WriteLog] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
References: <197.a00610a.2a6a2610@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3D395D8A.44EDA09B@worldnet.att.net>
This is an interesting question and deserves an answer. I doubt that
there are any zero point QSOs intended for the contest. If /MM
contacts were not permitted, it would be impossible to work some of the
IARU zones since many are wholly water. However, it is not worth
worrying a lot about since in the Cabrillo format, the only thing that
is really important is that the logchecking software scores it right.
73, John, K4BAI.
>From k9iua at yahoo.com Sat Jul 20 06:53:10 2002
From: k9iua@yahoo.com (Kevin Anderson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] THANKS (Re: I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?))
Message-ID: <20020720125310.51513.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com>
Thanks to Marty and the other folks that replied
to me off-line with further information about
both the IARU and WRTC contests this last weekend.
I am no longer confused about this particular
combination. However, nobody did answer to me
how the particular teams were picked. I will
assume it was the Finnish club that organized
the WRTC event based on their sense of who the
top contest operators are around the world. I
also gather that there are some old rivalries
here that go back a few years :-).
Cheers/73,
Kevin, K9IUA
=====
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k9iua (at) yahoo (dot) com
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>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 20 08:38:31 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Georgia QSO Party Today
Message-ID: <20020720143831.33779.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com>
Hope to see everyone take some time and work all us down in Georgia in
the GQP. The contest starts at 18:00 UTC (2 PM EDT). There will be at
least 6 rovers on that I know about . See
http://gqp.contesting.com/rover_plans.htm . The rules along with any
files you need for the contest are on the GQP website at
http://gqp.contesting.com.
73's Jeff KU8E
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>From k4bai at worldnet.att.net Sat Jul 20 11:53:48 2002
From: k4bai@worldnet.att.net (John T. Laney, III)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Georgia QSO Party today and tomorrow
Message-ID: <3D39797C.7C81C144@worldnet.att.net>
Hello all:
To borrow from K4OJ, just three hours until the annual Georgia QSO Party
kicks off. It appears we will have 8 to 10 mobiles out running our 159
counties as well as other fixed and portable stations. All info is
available at http://gqp.contesting.com including proposed county routes
for 6 of the mobiles, inlcuding K4BAI/M. Please join in the fun as your
time and conditions permit. Many plaques and more certificates will be
awarded in categories of QRP, low and high power.
73,
John, K4BAI for SECC and SEDXC.
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Sat Jul 20 01:02:10 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score .. OI2HQ claimed so far
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DE0@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Hi Folks,
>From OI2HQ point of view the U.S. main consultants to
reach the succes might be:
K1CC, K1EA, K9GX, N2NC, N6TV & W2GD ..
Thanks for your participation Rich, Ken, Mark, John, Bob & John.
For me, this was The Once-In-a-Lifetime opportunity to orchestrate this kind of
a team of the Luciano Pavarottis of the Ham World to something seemingly nobody
expected.
OI2HQ claimed so far is 18.588.591Mpoints, with
427 mult, 12395 QSO.
Band QSO Qpoints points/QSO Z HQ
160 239 599 2.51 7 19
80 1102 2714 2.46 24 29
40 1929 5807 3.01 37 38
20 5061 19355 3.82 54 50
15 3152 12338 3.91 57 52
10 912 2720 2.98 28 32
---------------------------------------------------
Totals 12395 43533 3.51 207 220
This is not necessarily our final claimed as there is still
a potential issue in a log that may bring us more QSOs.
Computer networks can do anything !
OI2HQ list of Operators:
DJ2QV Maik 160m & 20SSB,
OH9MM Juha 160m,
UA3AB Andy 80SSB
OH5LF kari 80SSB
G4JVG Steve 80CW, 40SSB, 10CW
G4VXE Tim 80CW, 40SSB, 10CW
UX1UA Sergei 80CW, 40SSB, 10CW
OH3WW Hannu 40CW
K1CC Rich 20SSB
N2NC John 20SSB
P43E Emily 20SSB
K1EA Ken 20CW, 10SSB
N6TV Bob 20CW, 10SSB
W2GD John 20CW, 10SSB
S56A Mario 15CW
OH6QU Jari 15CW (&15SSB mult spotting)
OH6BG Jari 15CW
K9GX Mark 15SSB
OH8VJ Pentti 15SSB
There are at least 2 European HQ stations within a couple of per cent in the
score.
Log checking will be as exciting in this one as was for WRTC!
..despite The WRTC was more intense & fast & real life with just 30 hours after
contest top ten publication..
73,
Jukka, OH6LI,
PS. QRV this weekend atop Geta Mountain, OH0V location as OH0JJS.
Mainly 10104 kHz.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Dennis McAlpine [mailto:dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net]
> Sent: 19 July, 2002 18:26
> To: Jim White, K4OJ; 3830@contesting.com; CQ-Contest@contesting.com;
> ctdxcc@kkn.net; Richard L. King
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
>
>
> Yes, Jim, this year's ARRL HQ stations moved things up a bit
> but look at
> some of the Europeans and their geographic diversification.
> Following their
> example, why shouldn't we have stations spread out all over
> the country,
> e.g. K1EA, N2RM, W3LPL, W4MYA, etc. In fact, given the
> geographic range,
> why not have multiple statins on the same band, e.g. a W6 on
> 80 at the same
> time as a W2. OK, so you can't have multiple statios on the
> same band. How
> about a half hour from the East, then a half hour from
> midwest, then a half
> hour from west coast and keep repeating the process. Tht
> would allow us to
> use 36 different stations (6 bands X 2 modes x 3 stations per mode).
> Imagine merging those logs.
>
> 73,
> Dennis K2SX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim White, K4OJ" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: <3830@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>;
> <ctdxcc@kkn.net>;
> "Richard L. King" <k5na@texas.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
>
>
> > Congratulations on a great job representing the USA, Rich.
> >
> > The Florida Contest Group had a blast two years ago as
> W1AW/4- you have
> > taken it to the next level for team USA by interconnecting multiple
> sites -
> > hats off to you and W5XD - great achievement - cannot
> imagine all the
> > screens in sync at the end of the contest from 6 different
> sites - WOW!
> > Talk about knowing who to pass and where to pass them!!!!!
> >
> > ...this was not do-able two years ago but now is history - very very
> cool -
> > this is the current level - what will be next? The HQ
> Radiosport station
> > offers an opportunity to do this kind of thing (multiple
> sites) that no
> > other contest can - and as contesters we all love using
> technology to
> stuff
> > our envelopes to the point of breaking, hi! I know that
> the logistics of
> > two years ago were tough - sure would have been nice to gab
> to "anyone
> > anywhere" on the network!
> >
> > Go Team USA!
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Jim, K4OJ
> >
> > & THE Florida Contest Group
> >
> > FCG #1 WRTC02 - N5TJ + K1TO
> > FCG #4 WRTC02 - N6MJ + N2NL
> >
> >
> > ...from Sunny Florida where we are awaiting the return from
> WRTC in Europe
> > of our President, Dan, K1TO (co- #1) and VP Jeff, WC4E (a referee)
> >
> >
> > Should the opportunity to operate one of these affairs ever become
> available
> > again I would jump at the chance - it was as they say "a
> hoot" - being a
> > unique multiplier by just jumping in your car to go to the local MM
> > station....neat.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Richard L. King <k5na@texas.net>
> > To: <3830@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>;
> <ctdxcc@kkn.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:42 PM
> > Subject: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
> >
> >
> > > 2002 IARU Contest
> > >
> > > W1AW/5 ARRL Headquarters Station
> > >
> > > Location - Central Texas (Austin, Texas area)
> > >
> > > CW Phone
> > > Total
> > > Band QSOs Points QSOs Points
> QSOs
> > > Points Mults
> > >
> > > 160 177 375 156 296
> 333
> > > 671 11
> > > 80 329 771 444 1048
> 773
> > > 1819 27
> > > 40 824 2545 760 1778
> 1584
> > > 4323 55
> > > 20 1594 5966 2319 7522
> 3913
> > > 13488 87
> > > 15 1274 4766 1585 5339
> 2859
> > > 10105 92
> > > 10 402 1098 467 1277
> 869
> > > 2375 39
> > >
> > > Total 4600 15521 5731 17260
> 10331
> > > 32781 311
> > >
> > > Claimed Score: 32,781 x 311 = 10,194,891
> > >
> > > This past year has been a busy one here in Central Texas while we
> prepared
> > > for W1AW/5. Though we were given the W1AW/5 assignment
> over 3 years ago,
> > > the planning got started in seriousness a year ago
> immediately after the
> > > 2001 IARU.
> > >
> > > Six of the premier Central Texas stations agreed to
> participate - K5NA,
> > > K5TR, N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT. Each of these stations
> could have
> been
> > a
> > > powerhouse on any of the bands or modes but the assignments were:
> > >
> > > K5NA - 80M CW, 40M CW, & 15M SSB.
> > > K5TR - 80M SSB & 20M SSB
> > > N5CQ - 10M CW
> > > N5TW - 160M CW & 20M CW.
> > > NX5M - 160M SSB & 10M SSB.
> > > W5KFT - 40M SSB & 15M SSB
> > >
> > > W5XD wrote a special version of WriteLog for use by the
> headquarters
> > > stations. Basically the new version allowed us to connect
> to a central
> > > Internet server that fed QSOs back to all the W1AW/5
> sites in real-time.
> > > Each site could always tell what QSOs and mults each of the other
> > band/mode
> > > sites needed. The software also fed the frequencies of
> the radios back
> to
> > > everyone to allow each station to move QSOs to other bands easily.
> > >
> > > We had a total of about 15 computers set up at all the
> sites and each
> > ended
> > > up with the same QSO and multiplier numbers at the end of
> the contest.
> The
> > > software was really awesome.
> > >
> > > The 24 hours of the IARU were noisy because Central Texas
> was being hit
> > > with wave after wave of thunderstorms. This condition
> caused high QRM on
> > > all the bands and especially affected the low bands. The
> thunderstorms
> had
> > > been occurring for several days before the contest and
> there was a lot
> of
> > > flooding in the area. But no W1AW/5 sites were affected
> by flooding. The
> > > rain static and thunderstorms were another matter.
> > >
> > > The thunderstorms forced the N5TW, NX5M, & W5KFT sites to
> shut down at
> > > different times during the contest as thunder cells
> passed by. Since the
> > > logging system was real-time and current at all the sites, it was
> possible
> > > for other sites to start working the vacated band/modes almost
> immediately
> > > after the affected stations were shut down. A lot of cell
> phone calls
> were
> > > made to coordinate this. Later the band/modes were
> switched back to the
> > > original stations.
> > >
> > > Our goal was to beat the old W1AW/p record set by W1AW/4 in 2000.
> However,
> > > 10 meters just didn't have much in the way of good
> conditions here and
> we
> > > fell a little short. With sun spots going down, the
> W1AW/4 record may
> > stand
> > > for a few years. Our secondary goal was to beat NU1AW and
> the other
> > > headquarters stations. But I haven't heard any other
> official HQ scores
> > yet.
> > >
> > > All the stations owners and operators had a great time
> doing this. It
> was
> > > great fun.
> > >
> > > Thanks to the K1ZZ and the ARRL for allowing us to do
> W1AW/5 in this
> > > contest. Also thanks to W5XD for his work developing his terrific
> software
> > > to support our effort and to AB5K for the special telnet node used
> > > exclusively by all the W1AW/5 stations.
> > >
> > > There will be more detailed information and breakdowns of
> the W1AW/5
> > effort
> > > available on the net very soon.
> > >
> > > 73, Richard - K5NA
> > >
> > > k5na@texas.net
> > >
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>From dick.green at valley.net Sat Jul 20 16:53:56 2002
From: dick.green@valley.net (Dick Green)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020709212132.009bc940@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGIIEEMCPAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Dave,
Took me a while to get around to replying, but thanks for the observations.
If you read my IARU post, the 40-2CD performed very well under battle
conditions. Atmospheric noise was too high for S-meter comparisons, but I
felt louder on the 40-2CD and never got asked for a repeat. The 4-square was
a little less effective in that regard. The 40-square was a little quieter,
but I ended up using the 580' NE beverage when the noise got real bad. The
big surprise was that the 40-2CD was the same 5-15dB louder to VK2. Guess
the 4-square's angle advantage isn't worth 5.5 dB in the summertime. I'll be
checking that as we get into fall and winter.
I ended up using the 4-square almost exclusively for S&P on the second
radio. It's more than adequate for that purpose. You can't beat the instant
direction switching and deep F/B. It might be worth sweeping the band every
now and then with the 40-2CD to pick up real weak ones.
I modeled the 40-2CD at 50', 75', and 120', and that tells a pretty good
story as well. The gain is comparable, but the angle is 36 degrees at 50',
25 degrees at 75' and 15 degrees at 120'. I imagine that makes a heck of a
difference and will be raising the 40-2CD tower to 75 feet before the fall
contests. The F/B was somewhat better the higher you go, too, but nowhere
near the 4-square.
I really do think it's a different story on 80M and 160M. I've had excellent
results with the 80M 4-squares at K1RX and KT1V. For most of us, we just
can't get a yagi up high enough on those bands. The 4-square has a
tremendous advantage in that regard: as long as you've got the real estate,
can figure out how to raise 65-foot verticals (or top-loaded verticals), and
are willing to spend some time dealing with radials, then there's nothing
better. I use a delta loop at 75' on 80M and it beats the old inverted-vee
by a mile, but it's nowhere near as effective as a 4-square.
73, Dick WC1M
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David A. Pruett [mailto:k8cc@comcast.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:45 PM
> To: dick.green@valley.net; CONTEST
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
>
>
> Dick,
>
> Thanks for sharing your observations on your 40M four-square vs. a
> 40-2CD. My only caveat is to keep in mind that the comparison you make
> during the summer will not always jibe with the same comparison in
> winter. Radiation angles tend to be higher in the summer which
> would favor
> the low yagi over the verticals. Your observation about the gain of a
> four-square being 6 dB *over a vertical* which makes it about even with a
> dipole over ground is absolutely correct. However, its not the
> entire story.
>
> We've been using a wire four-square on 80M here at K8CC since
> 1994. We've
> had just about every kind of 80M DX antenna here at this
> location: slopers,
> delta loops, bobtails, half-squares, a 3L wire yagi and even a beautiful
> N4ZC-style log periodic with the center at 110' and the ends at
> 90'. It's
> my opinion (and shared by my guest operators) that none of these antennas
> match the four-square, at least on 80M when you're limited to
> 120' supports.
>
> That is not to say that the others were bad antennas. The simple little
> half-square made UN2L's "loud LP 80M signals" list one year. The
> wire yagi
> and N4ZC log periodic made lots of gain and were great pileup
> crashers. But until we put up the four-square we couldn't hear
> down to the
> weak layer of EU necessary to be able to run successfully on CW from
> W8. Once we put up the four-square, the results were immediately
> noticable
> on our 80M line score, and our 80M op was a lot happier too.
>
> Again, I agree with your observation that verticals (and hence,
> four-squares) don't radiate as much signal as a dipole over ground. I've
> often found, particularly on 75 SSB that with the four-square we can hear
> more DX stations than we can work. With northern Europeans particularly,
> I'll call and call a perfectly copiable SM or OH and not even get a QRZ?
> from them. My gut says if I could run about four or five KW output the
> transmit signal from the four-square would match the ability to
> receive. However, my conscience won't let me do that...
>
> A couple of years ago K3LR (who has a great 80M four-square made from
> Hy-Towers) decided to try some big horizontal antennas like a
> W2PV 2L quad
> and a 3L linear-loaded yagi. Perhaps he'd like to share his observations
> here on the reflector, but neither antenna replaced his four-square.
>
> Finally, the answer for 80M might be different than for 40M...
>
> 73,
>
> Dave/K8CC
>
>
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Sat Jul 20 17:02:10 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WriteLog] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
Message-ID: <88.1b437464.2a6b1bc2@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/20/2002 12:53:31 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
k4bai@worldnet.att.net writes:
> However, it is not worth
> worrying a lot about since in the Cabrillo format, the only thing that
> is really important is that the logchecking software scores it right.
>
Hi, John,
Yes, /mm contacts are certainly legitimate contacts, and should be worth
points. I would like WL to score them correctly. You are correct, however,
about it not being a Cabrillo file issue.
73, Geo...
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Jul 20 23:49:11 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] August CQ Magazine Online (sort of)
References: <1.5.4.32.20020719204839.0073cbe8@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <3D39DAD7.DFF1E651@harborside.com>
Bill Tippett wrote:
>
> I was searching CQ Magazine's site for an e-mail address
> to check my subscription expiration and was quite surprised to
> see several new features on the Website for the August issue which
> includes the CQ WW SSB results:
Hi Bill
Not bad. And you don't have to be a "member" to read what's on
their website. 73
Tom W7WHY
>From thompson at mindspring.com Sat Jul 20 21:23:03 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clarification CW, SSB and the FCC
Message-ID: <00bf01c2304d$fbe37c80$fe2745cf@default>
First off the person who heard this comment was a retired FCC Engineer (then
called a FOB Chief Engineer). He was with a group of visiting hams. This
was about 1 year ago when the FCC Chairman was new. My take it was a
challenge statement not a statement to abandon CW and SSB.
The retired Engineer also said lip service was paid to emergency service
too. I think from this we can gather the feeling inside the FCC (except
for Riley??).
I also brought this up again (I mentioned it last year on another reflector)
as I want to bring us back to the real world and the thread about CW versus
SSB is non productive! If you like one mode or the other then no matter
what is said you won't change your mind.
I also found out that several don't believe that digital (from RTTY to PSK
31 et al) is really amateur radio. I seem to remember the diehard AMers
saying that about SSB 40 years ago.
And Phone man Lew McCoy had to tread lightly at ARRL in the early 1950's as
the General manager was CW forever and only!
Back to contesting!
73 Dave K4JRB
>From eric at k3na.org Sun Jul 21 08:00:21 2002
From: eric@k3na.org (Eric Scace K3NA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
In-Reply-To: <000001c22a11$87cf0fe0$b69ffea9@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <NEBBJKPCLKFDODKNIPHKOECGGKAA.eric@k3na.org>
I have done this for several contests. There are two basic solutions:
a) Use two computers: one for logging and one to control the Kachina. This is
preferred as it eliminates the need to change window
focus between radio and logging software, a major impediment to S&P operation.
Furthermore, there are SERIOUS keyboard conflicts
between the two applications; e.g., F1 in many logging software packages sends
the CQ message... while F1 on a Kachina shifts the
radio to a memory frequency and obliterates what you were doing! Keeping the
applications on separate machines reduces (but does
not eliminate) these kinds of cockpit errors.
This recommendation goes double if you are using a tuning knob. The knob
goes dead when the Kachina software does not have the
keyboard focus.
b) If you must use only one computer, you should practice a lot in advance. It
is also worthwhile to obtain and configure a
keyboard macro utility, to replace some of the multi-step sequences one will
need to switch around the various applications. Think
creatively.
-- Eric K3NA
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dennis McAlpine
Sent: 2002 July 13 Sat 03:59
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Cc: Japha, Tony
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
My friend N2UN, who lives in an antenna deprived part of NYC, has successfully
managed to put up an R-7000 vertical antenna at his
office. He is talking to a Kachina at his office from his apartment via the
phone lines and using some x-10 devices to turn the
power on and off.
Now like any good contester, Tony is trying how to use this remotely activated
station in a contest. His question is how do you use
the Kachina operating software at thesame time as a contest logging program,
e.g. WriteLog, CT, NA, etc. Has anyone had any
experience with this probem and how did you do it?
Thanks for the help. It mayget another station on the air for us all to work.
73,
Dennis, K2SX
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sun Jul 21 12:58:40 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clarification CW, SSB and the FCC
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020721105840.00cc3fd4@pop.vnet.net>
K4JRB wrote:
>First off the person who heard this comment was a retired FCC Engineer (then
called a FOB Chief Engineer). He was with a group of visiting hams. This
was about 1 year ago when the FCC Chairman was new. My take it was a
challenge statement not a statement to abandon CW and SSB.
Original statement: "The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that
its time for amateurs to move to the new modes and leave what he considers
are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31
is superior to CW in weak signal environments."
"Obsolete" is a very strong word which the dictionary defines as:
1.No longer in use: an obsolete word.
2.Outmoded in design, style, or construction: an obsolete locomotive.
Neither CW nor SSB is obsolete; in fact, both are far superior to any of
the new digital modes at rapidly communicating information between
many different stations under extreme conditions. In fact, PSK31 has
NOT been proven to be superior to CW in weak signal environments IMHO.
PSK31, WSJT, QRSS, etc are superior ONLY if you know the exact frequency
to tune your receiver to the signal buried in noise. Without this
critical information (either from a prearranged schedule or via the
Internet), they cannot magically extract signals from noise. Can you
imagine a contest where you tune your receiver but cannot hear the
signals? I don't think so.
I think it always is in our interest to challenge factually
incorrect statements, especially if they are attributed to someone who
is in a position to affect us. What we need is more education of our
officials and maybe a little more critical thinking before accepting as
gospel some of their pronouncements. In this case, I think it remains
to be proven exactly what Chairman Powell actually said.
"I also found out that several don't believe that digital
(from RTTY to PSK 31 et al) is really amateur radio." That is not
what was said. What I said was "I personally do not think a
computer-to-computer 'QSO' means much". I specifically meant when
neither station can hear the other station (with their own ears),
and I'll stand by my statement. To me, a QSO like this is just like
nets where the Netmeister tells each side of the QSO "Good Contact"
when in fact neither station can hear the other. The only difference
is our computers have replaced the Netmeister!
73, Bill W4ZV
>From ww3s at zoominternet.net Sun Jul 21 09:21:22 2002
From: ww3s@zoominternet.net (Jamie WW3S)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W9XT card for sale
Message-ID: <005f01c230b1$20b9fe40$6601a8c0@zoominternet.net>
For Sale: W9XT voice keyer card and homebrew cable for 8 pin Kenwood.
Includes original manual.Cable has ptt jack, mic in, 8 pin mic ou, cw key
out. This is one of the original models; can't remember if 16 or 20 seconds
of audio. 75.00 +shipping. Paypal preferred; money order or check ok. 73
Jamie WW3S
>From k9iua at yahoo.com Sun Jul 21 07:19:34 2002
From: k9iua@yahoo.com (Kevin Anderson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Thanks again (re WRTC team selection...)
Message-ID: <20020721131934.26525.qmail@web14707.mail.yahoo.com>
Thanks again to the eight or so who replied
off-line to my followup question regarding
WRTC team selection. Obviously next time I
will be more aware of what the e-mail traffic
means when it comes time for WRTC team member
selections. (Being confused about what WRTC
was in the first place meant that I was
unable to put in context the "hundreds of
e-mails" on CQ-Contest on team selection -
my failure I guess :-).
Cheers/73,
Kevin, K9IUA
=====
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k9iua (at) yahoo (dot) com
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>From w7why at harborside.com Sun Jul 21 17:25:26 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clarification CW, SSB and the FCC
References: <00bf01c2304d$fbe37c80$fe2745cf@default>
Message-ID: <3D3AD266.C214F959@harborside.com>
"David L. Thompson" wrote:
> I also found out that several don't believe that digital (from >RTTY to PSK
> 31 et al) is really amateur radio.
Hi Dave et al
Maybe not so much now, but when I first got into rtty it was
definitely amateur radio. Everyone built their own equipment,
scrounged old machines to get going, etc. I got started with an
old Model 14 strip printer and a 555 op-amp TU that I built.
Then moved up to a ST-5 (homebrew) then a DT-600 (also homebrew).
Almost everyone was using stuff they modified or built
themselves. The first SAC contest I worked I used a Model 15 and
Model 14 reperf. Made 125 Q's with 25 countries and made WAC in
that contest. Most of the guys operating RTTY now are guys that
have been around for a while. PSK--now that's a different story
:-( 73
Tom W7WHY
>From k2av at contesting.com Sun Jul 21 13:45:42 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
References: <NEBBJKPCLKFDODKNIPHKOECGGKAA.eric@k3na.org>
Message-ID: <009001c230d6$0dbf9870$0500a8c0@swift>
Understand.
Where do you put the two monitors? What kind and size are they?
Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Scace K3NA" <eric@k3na.org>
To: "Dennis McAlpine" <dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net>; "Cq-Contest"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 7:00 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
> I have done this for several contests. There are two basic
solutions:
>
> a) Use two computers: one for logging and one to control the
Kachina. This is preferred as it eliminates the need to change window
> focus between radio and logging software, a major impediment to S&P
operation. Furthermore, there are SERIOUS keyboard conflicts
> between the two applications; e.g., F1 in many logging software
packages sends the CQ message... while F1 on a Kachina shifts the
> radio to a memory frequency and obliterates what you were doing!
Keeping the applications on separate machines reduces (but does
> not eliminate) these kinds of cockpit errors.
>
> This recommendation goes double if you are using a tuning knob.
The knob goes dead when the Kachina software does not have the
> keyboard focus.
>
> b) If you must use only one computer, you should practice a lot in
advance. It is also worthwhile to obtain and configure a
> keyboard macro utility, to replace some of the multi-step sequences
one will need to switch around the various applications. Think
> creatively.
>
> -- Eric K3NA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dennis McAlpine
> Sent: 2002 July 13 Sat 03:59
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Cc: Japha, Tony
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
>
>
> My friend N2UN, who lives in an antenna deprived part of NYC, has
successfully managed to put up an R-7000 vertical antenna at his
> office. He is talking to a Kachina at his office from his apartment
via the phone lines and using some x-10 devices to turn the
> power on and off.
>
> Now like any good contester, Tony is trying how to use this remotely
activated station in a contest. His question is how do you use
> the Kachina operating software at thesame time as a contest logging
program, e.g. WriteLog, CT, NA, etc. Has anyone had any
> experience with this probem and how did you do it?
>
> Thanks for the help. It mayget another station on the air for us
all to work.
>
> 73,
>
> Dennis, K2SX
>
>
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>From w9sz at prairienet.org Sun Jul 21 12:58:50 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clarification CW, SSB and the FCC
In-Reply-To: <3D3AD266.C214F959@harborside.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207211148540.3915-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Tom Osborne wrote:
>
>
> "David L. Thompson" wrote:
>
> > I also found out that several don't believe that digital (from >RTTY to PSK
> > 31 et al) is really amateur radio.
>
> Hi Dave et al
>
> Maybe not so much now, but when I first got into rtty it was
> definitely amateur radio. Everyone built their own equipment,
> scrounged old machines to get going, etc. I got started with an
> old Model 14 strip printer and a 555 op-amp TU that I built.
> Then moved up to a ST-5 (homebrew) then a DT-600 (also homebrew).
> Almost everyone was using stuff they modified or built
> themselves. The first SAC contest I worked I used a Model 15 and
> Model 14 reperf. Made 125 Q's with 25 countries and made WAC in
> that contest. Most of the guys operating RTTY now are guys that
> have been around for a while. PSK--now that's a different story
> :-( 73
> Tom W7WHY
I have been active on RTTY, PSK31, MFSK16, Hellschreiber, etc. and I
really don't see any difference in what is actually done with any of these
modes. Some are wider in spectrum, some are narrower, some get through
better than others - but it's basically typing the information back and
forth and watching it appear on a screen instead of listening to it. You
still have to see the screen in real time and reply in real time.
I don't see any difference in how to conduct a QSO on RTTY or PSK31. The
only difference is the equipment used. Most RTTY stations these days use
computers. It's still fun.
I consider "radio" to be anything that is propagated between two antennas,
regardless of the mode it uses. If it goes from a transmitter to an
antenna, propagates by free space, ionosphere, tropo ducting, FAI, EME or
whatever and is received at another antenna, it's radio.
73, Zack W9SZ
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Sun Jul 21 23:56:33 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (Bob Wruble)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] speaking of parts prices...
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20020718153646.00a5f9a0@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <011401c23144$88c3ddb0$bcee3d04@bobhome>
a mouse recently chewed the ear muff on my new pro-set boom
mike set. i sent it to heil for repair. they did it quickly and charged me
$8. a fair price in my mind!! de w7gg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] speaking of parts prices...
> What's with Heil? They used to have a good reputation for providing small
> parts reasonably, but I recently bought a boom clip and a pair of earpads
> for a BM-10 from them. The charge was $5.00 for each item, plus $3.00
S&H,
> and they arrived USPS in a box with 60 cents postage on it. Yes, I know
> about the cost of handling small orders, but I think these prices have it
> built in several times over...
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Jul 22 02:56:22 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K1TO and WC4E arrive in Tampa - pix on website below
Message-ID: <01ec01c23144$83bc7b60$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
...for shots of how we treat our WRTC Champion please go to the following
website and scroll down - Welcome Home Dan K1TO ( and Jeff, the Ref, WC4E ).
...check out the West Central Florida ARRL Division website for the piece on
the return of Dit and Dahs
http://www.wcfarrl.org/smcol.html
...unfortunately, fourth place (second US) finisher N2NL flew home into the
other coast immediately after WRTC and we couldn't do the same for him!
Congratulations From All of The Florida Contest Group and thanks team
WRTC2002 Finland for putting on such a fine show.
K4FCG
>From eric at k3na.org Mon Jul 22 08:10:39 2002
From: eric@k3na.org (Eric Scace K3NA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
In-Reply-To: <009001c230d6$0dbf9870$0500a8c0@swift>
Message-ID: <NEBBJKPCLKFDODKNIPHKGEFHGKAA.eric@k3na.org>
Two laptops were used.
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Guy Olinger, K2AV
Sent: 2002 July 21 Sun 12:46
To: eric@k3na.org; Dennis McAlpine; Cq-Contest
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
Understand.
Where do you put the two monitors? What kind and size are they?
Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Scace K3NA" <eric@k3na.org>
To: "Dennis McAlpine" <dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net>; "Cq-Contest"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 7:00 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
> I have done this for several contests. There are two basic
solutions:
>
> a) Use two computers: one for logging and one to control the
Kachina. This is preferred as it eliminates the need to change window
> focus between radio and logging software, a major impediment to S&P
operation. Furthermore, there are SERIOUS keyboard conflicts
> between the two applications; e.g., F1 in many logging software
packages sends the CQ message... while F1 on a Kachina shifts the
> radio to a memory frequency and obliterates what you were doing!
Keeping the applications on separate machines reduces (but does
> not eliminate) these kinds of cockpit errors.
>
> This recommendation goes double if you are using a tuning knob.
The knob goes dead when the Kachina software does not have the
> keyboard focus.
>
> b) If you must use only one computer, you should practice a lot in
advance. It is also worthwhile to obtain and configure a
> keyboard macro utility, to replace some of the multi-step sequences
one will need to switch around the various applications. Think
> creatively.
>
> -- Eric K3NA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dennis McAlpine
> Sent: 2002 July 13 Sat 03:59
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Cc: Japha, Tony
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
>
>
> My friend N2UN, who lives in an antenna deprived part of NYC, has
successfully managed to put up an R-7000 vertical antenna at his
> office. He is talking to a Kachina at his office from his apartment
via the phone lines and using some x-10 devices to turn the
> power on and off.
>
> Now like any good contester, Tony is trying how to use this remotely
activated station in a contest. His question is how do you use
> the Kachina operating software at thesame time as a contest logging
program, e.g. WriteLog, CT, NA, etc. Has anyone had any
> experience with this probem and how did you do it?
>
> Thanks for the help. It mayget another station on the air for us
all to work.
>
> 73,
>
> Dennis, K2SX
>
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>From wd4ahz at gte.net Mon Jul 22 11:09:44 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Section News and Contest Results
Message-ID: <3D3C1228.BD697366@gte.net>
Frank,
Thanks for your support in keeping Section News and Contest Results in
QST. Unfortunately, this was already a "done deal" scheduled for the
last BOD Meeting ... but the membership "outcry" put that on hold until
this meeting.
The "dumbing down" of Amateur Radio that the ARRL has been pushing, has
finally completely overtaken QST, since Contest Results and Section
News, were the last bits of "non fluff" left in QST ... and now those
will be gone.
I hope this action brings about the desired outcome, but previous
actions by the ARRL to increase membership (by dumbing down Amateur
Radio) have not worked. This may save money by reducing the number of
pages (or will something take their place?), but may also turn some
current members away, since many feel the ARRL no longer represents the
membership or the best interest of Amateur Radio ... instead the ARRL
now acts in the best interest of the ARRL.
The question now, is if the "National Contest Journal", NCJ, can be
expanded to make it a monthly contest magazine. I already subscribe to
NCJ, but would gladly drop QST in favor of an expanded NCJ.
Thanks,
Ron Wetjen, WD4AHZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 22 08:46:13 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207221446.g6MEkDm22043@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
J75KG 1654 661 192 24 1,776,768 FCG
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S LP
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW LP
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
RA9JR 2011 8927 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
RN4LP 1505 4683 251 24 1,175,433
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 14 463,606 HSDXA
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
K1HT 399 123 139 8 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 22 2,342,130 Other (specify when
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
FM5GU 0 1492 99 9 609,246
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 22 08:47:07 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207221447.g6MEl7J22052@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op QRP
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 1 15 SECC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 22 08:47:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207221447.g6MElnD22061@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/2 QRP
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 22 08:49:32 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207221449.g6MEnWd22070@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
VA3DX 388 147 10 58,200
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 9 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
W6ZL 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
K3FH 176 98 8 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 6 14,964
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
IK0HBN 150 57 9 8,550
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 2 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K6OWL 46 34 2 1,564
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Mon Jul 22 12:07:28 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] speaking of parts prices...
Message-ID: <73.22df8ce8.2a6d79b0@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/22/2002 2:12:49 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
bob.wruble@verizon.net writes:
> a mouse recently chewed the ear muff on my new pro-set boom
> mike set. i sent it to heil for repair. they did it quickly and charged
> me
> $8. a fair price in my mind!! de w7gg
>
Sounds like it's high time for a cordless mouse!
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Mon Jul 22 16:59:50 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC logs
Message-ID: <01c2317f$aa5ca0c0$LocalHost@default>
Hi gang,
Here are some comments re WRTC2002 logs by Risto, OH3UU.
For any questions, please contact oh3uu@sral.fi
73 Ari OH1EH
Hello Folks !
Just visiting at home during my holiday.
First of all, my apologies to all. We were not able to confirm received Early
Bird logs for WRTC2002 due to the tremendous email traffic and pile up with
incoming team logs.
Enclosed please find some statistic about received emails:
Emails total 2242
Count of the logs 1343 (there were several updated emails)
(the count will increase because some emails have more than one log)
Early Bird logs 943
Sex offers 68
Messages with virus 35
Logs with virus alert 32
Corrupted logs abt. 10 (not sure if all were logs)
Money begging 10
The numbers are unofficial and we will start to process the logs more carefully
after the holiday season.
Thanks to all for co-operation
73, Risto
oh3uu@welho.com
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Jul 22 13:15:44 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
Message-ID: <007501c2319b$086f50c0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
snippets taken from one account of the past weekend's board meeting:
ALERT: Sun, July 21, 2002; 11:04 PM ET
Section News and Contest Scores Moving to the Web
In a controversial decision the ARRL Board has voted 9 to 6 to remove
Section News and contest scores from QST as of the January 2003 issue.
The roll call vote is as follows:
Opposed:
Roderick-K5UR-Delta Div., Fuller-N3EFN-Atlantic Div.,
Race-WB8BGY-Great Lakes Div.,
Milnes-W7OZ-Northwestern Div., Maxwell-W6CF-Pacific
Div., and
Butler-W4RH-Southeastern Div.
Voting for the removal:
Isely-W9GIG-Central Div.,
Bellows-K0QB-Dakota Div., Fallon-N2FF-Hudson Div.,
Walstrom-W0EJ-Midwest Div.,
Frenaye-K1KI-New England Div., Bodson-W4PWF-Roanoke
Div., Stinson-W0CP-Rock
Mountain Div., Goddard-W6XD-Southwestern Div. and
Day-N5OK-West Gulf Div. All
directors can be reach at their call-signs @ arrl.org.
Great Lakes Division Director George
un-snip
...I am sure full details are or are about to be posted at the ARRL website.
Thank you W4RH for voting in favor of contest score retention in QST and
the chance to expose non-contesters to contesting...hopefully the ARRL will
allow QST to use as much space for promotion of OPERATING versus mere
license holding and vhf transceiver buying.
The post "un-snip" comments are my own...and the snippets in the top part of
the message were edited from the WCF section webpage.
73,
Jim, K4OJ
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 22 15:54:41 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
In-Reply-To: <007501c2319b$086f50c0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20020722215441.41977.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
I bet the ARRL will see those who solely subscribed to QST for contest
results and writeups not renewing their subscriptions. I agree with
moving section news because it's boring stuff that lots of people don't
even read. Just wait until they stop printing the DXCC listings !!!
I really don't think the ARRL has a clue about demographics.
Contesting
and DXing are by far the most popular amateur radio activities and
these two groups are the ones buying the products that are advertising
in QST. Does this mean we are now going to see great articles like "
How to Effectively Ragchew on the 75 Meter Band" in QST ????
Maybe someone can clue me in why the ARRL takes the attitude that
contesters/DXer's are the minority ????
I live in Atlanta, GA , which is a pretty big metro area of about 4
million people. I can't imagine that talking on 2 meter repeaters is
very popular. There has to be a repeater on every split possible and I
hardly hear anyone using these repeaters???
How about weak signal VHF/UHF ???? Well it's seems most of the time
there isn't much activity in most parts of the country unless there
is a contest going on ???
How about digital modes ??? Well most of the guys I know that do this
are either contesting or DXing. Sure there are guys probably handling
traffic but the whole thing is so automated now it's like me just
sending an email on my computer.... What's so fun about that ???
That leaves all those "ragchewers" out there. There must be tons of
them because during the weekday the bands have have no activity. It
picks up during the weekend but the bands are by no means crowded if it
is a non-contest weekend.
I really feel bad for the future of ham radio. To do most of all the so
called "hot" activities is many times too expensive for the newcomer.
Maybe I shouldn't complain because when all those 50 something
contesters are all gone in 20-30 years from now I can have 14.001 all
to myself !!!!
73's from Clueless in Georgia , Jeff
--- "Jim White, K4OJ" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> snippets taken from one account of the past weekend's board meeting:
>
>
> ALERT: Sun, July 21, 2002; 11:04 PM ET
>
> Section News and Contest Scores Moving to the Web
>
> In a controversial decision the ARRL Board has voted 9 to 6 to remove
> Section News and contest scores from QST as of the January 2003
> issue.
>
> The roll call vote is as follows:
>
> Opposed:
> Roderick-K5UR-Delta Div., Fuller-N3EFN-Atlantic
> Div.,
> Race-WB8BGY-Great Lakes Div.,
> Milnes-W7OZ-Northwestern Div.,
> Maxwell-W6CF-Pacific
> Div., and
> Butler-W4RH-Southeastern Div.
>
>
> Voting for the removal:
>
>
> Isely-W9GIG-Central Div.,
> Bellows-K0QB-Dakota Div., Fallon-N2FF-Hudson
> Div.,
> Walstrom-W0EJ-Midwest Div.,
> Frenaye-K1KI-New England Div.,
> Bodson-W4PWF-Roanoke
> Div., Stinson-W0CP-Rock
> Mountain Div., Goddard-W6XD-Southwestern Div.
> and
> Day-N5OK-West Gulf Div. All
> directors can be reach at their call-signs @
> arrl.org.
> Great Lakes Division Director George
>
>
> un-snip
>
> ...I am sure full details are or are about to be posted at the ARRL
> website.
>
>
> Thank you W4RH for voting in favor of contest score retention in QST
> and
> the chance to expose non-contesters to contesting...hopefully the
> ARRL will
> allow QST to use as much space for promotion of OPERATING versus mere
> license holding and vhf transceiver buying.
>
> The post "un-snip" comments are my own...and the snippets in the top
> part of
> the message were edited from the WCF section webpage.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, K4OJ
>
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>From kc1f at adelphia.net Mon Jul 22 23:34:44 2002
From: kc1f@adelphia.net (Stuart Santelmann)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Results of UA1 antenna query
Message-ID: <01bd01c231c7$a7aa3d40$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Hello everyone:
I had several reponses to my question about the big HF station in St.
Petersburg, Russia, near the "Kissing Bridge". For those who may be
curious, here they are:
- One vote for "a Finnish businessman"
- One vote for UZ1AWX, reported to be some of the same guys as RU1A
- One vote for RZ1AWT, also reported to be many of the same guys as RU1A
- One vote for "old city small QTH of RU1A", with the main one being
outside of the city
- One vote apparently wondering how I could have thought such "small"
antennas could be RU1A, hi
I don't think it had occurred to any of us to talk to the WRTC competitors
from that area RW1AC or RV1AW to see how close they were to the city for a
possible eyeball and a beer at the hotel during our visit - next time, hi
best 73 Stu KC1F
>From k9gx at yahoo.com Mon Jul 22 17:34:02 2002
From: k9gx@yahoo.com (Mark Williams)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC logs
In-Reply-To: <01c2317f$aa5ca0c0$LocalHost@default>
Message-ID: <20020722233402.11838.qmail@web13007.mail.yahoo.com>
Risto...and all
Sex offers? Obviously whoever made those offers hadn't looked at any of the
many digital photos of our group at WRTC...face it we're not the "jet
set/pretty people". Or maybe they DID and figured we needed some help in that
area (grin)
Hopefully those "sex offers" were not also the ones with "viruses"...yecch!
There weren't any offers of "favors" for overlooking UBN's, I hope!
73 to all...and thanks again to everyone who made WRTC 2002 such a special
event for all of us who were there
Mark
K9GX/OI2HQ 15m SSB SRAL team
Ari Korhonen <ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi> wrote: Hi gang,
Here are some comments re WRTC2002 logs by Risto, OH3UU.
For any questions, please contact oh3uu@sral.fi
73 Ari OH1EH
Hello Folks !
Just visiting at home during my holiday.
First of all, my apologies to all. We were not able to confirm received Early
Bird logs for WRTC2002 due to the tremendous email traffic and pile up with
incoming team logs.
Enclosed please find some statistic about received emails:
Emails total 2242
Count of the logs 1343 (there were several updated emails)
(the count will increase because some emails have more than one log)
Early Bird logs 943
Sex offers 68
Messages with virus 35
Logs with virus alert 32
Corrupted logs abt. 10 (not sure if all were logs)
Money begging 10
The numbers are unofficial and we will start to process the logs more carefully
after the holiday season.
Thanks to all for co-operation
73, Risto
oh3uu@welho.com
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>From k3ft at erols.com Mon Jul 22 20:45:49 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MDC QSO party
Message-ID: <3D3CA73D.35D@erols.com>
Reminder, MDC QSO party - Two days. Saturday August 10, 2002. Starts at 1200
local and
runs until 2400 local. Sunday, August 11, 2002 runs from 1200 local until 8pm
local.
Rules are available on W3CWC website. (See search engine for W3CWC, Antietam
Radio Association, MDC QSO PARTY for URL's.
You can find FREE Logging software available at URL
http://www.qsl.net/w3km/gen_log.htm
This software is FREE to download. Also download the counties file as well. I
have
downloaded it and tried it. Installed easily, opened easily, and has MANY QSO
parties
and other contest templates included. INcludes counties list too.
Two files.. Genlog.exe and Genlogx.exe plus the counties file. Suggest you
download the
history.txt files and the other associated ones too.
It claims to do the ADIF import/export and has a general logging program too.
I have no connection to anyone or any group involved in this program I wanted
to let
others who were looking for QSO party software know about it.
CU in the QSO party!
73
Chuck K3FT
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Mon Jul 22 23:56:03 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
In-Reply-To: <20020722215441.41977.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207222239550.12687-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Jeffrey Clarke wrote:
> How about weak signal VHF/UHF ???? Well it's seems most of the time
> there isn't much activity in most parts of the country unless there
> is a contest going on ???
That's pretty much the case around here. There are a few people who get
on and ragchew on 144 MHz SSB but the higher bands are pretty empty except
for contests.
>
> How about digital modes ??? Well most of the guys I know that do this
> are either contesting or DXing. Sure there are guys probably handling
> traffic but the whole thing is so automated now it's like me just
> sending an email on my computer.... What's so fun about that ???
>
We just got a group going in this area to experiment with PSK31, MFSK16
etc on 144 MHz. We're using 144.150 right now. The digital modes CAN be
fun and real-time communication bewteen two people is communication
regardless of whether it's done on CW, SSB or digital modes. The digital
modes seem to be a matter of taste, though; some people don't like them.
I do. That's one thing that always intrigued me about this hobby; there
are so many different things to do.
>
> That leaves all those "ragchewers" out there. There must be tons of
> them because during the weekday the bands have have no activity. It
> picks up during the weekend but the bands are by no means crowded if it
> is a non-contest weekend.
>
>From my observation, there seems to be more ragchewing going on as a rule
on SSB than on CW. The bands are not crowded on either mode, though.
>
> I really feel bad for the future of ham radio. To do most of all the so
> called "hot" activities is many times too expensive for the newcomer.
> Maybe I shouldn't complain because when all those 50 something
> contesters are all gone in 20-30 years from now I can have 14.001 all
> to myself !!!!
>
When I got started in ham radio we had a Novice license (probably true for
most of you, too.) There was cheap Novice gear to be had. You could get
on the air for less than $100 in the late 60's and even work some DX. I
remember CO2BB used to come into the Novice band on 40 once in a while and
thrill us all. I worked a lot of Europe, Japan and Okinawa on 15 meters
as a Novice. BTW, I still have my old Novice transmitter and I measured
the power out a couple years ago just for fun, to see what I was working
all that DX with. 30 watts!
I'm not sure of the future of ham radio, either. As Yogi Berra once said,
"The future just ain't what it used to be!"
73, Zack W9SZ
>From nf1j at earthlink.net Mon Jul 22 21:58:48 2002
From: nf1j@earthlink.net (Warren C. Stankiewicz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
References: <20020722215441.41977.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000701c231fd$420b02e0$e451ff40@familyroom>
Well, if folks are this upset, let's look at the political economic
situation here (without trying to sound Marxist)...
Who voted for this?
Isely-W9GIG-Central Div.,
That's SMC territory, isn't it?
Bellows-K0QB-Dakota Div.
MWA's got a pretty big contingent, I recall, if I'm not mistaken
Fallon-N2FF-Hudson Div.,
I think you could call that 50-50 between FRC and YCCC types
Frenaye-K1KI-New England Div
YCCC
Bodson-W4PWF-Roanoke
Anyone here from PVRC?
Day-N5OK-West Gulf Div.
There's what, two, three big contest clubs in Texas?
And I left out some directors, and a whole bunch of clubs, none
intentionally. Walt Stinson even served on the CAC at one time.
All of you who are ARRL members got the chance to vote for these people. All
these directors would surely show at any regular club meeting, if they were
asked, to address the members, especially a sizeable contingent (I leave out
those who'd show up anyhow).
With malice towards none (I even know and like some of these folks). But if
you voted for them, you got what you paid for. If you didn't vote for them,
you got even less than what you paid for. The ARRL is you, and you should be
telling it what you want, and not the other way around.
Not that I'm suggesting overthrowing the board--that would be a bit too
revolutionary. Nor am I suggesting people resort to the tactics other
organizations use of trying to vote out people who don't represent their
point of view. But if you want your voices to be heard in Newington,.
perhaps folks should consider grouping together on the divisional level
until they make their voices and their points heard.
After all, at it's very core, amateur radio is about *operating*, isn't it?
And who does more of that than people like us?
Again, with malice towards none, and 73,
warren (nf1j/6)
nf1j@earthlink.net
>From k1ir at designet.com Tue Jul 23 09:05:55 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Line Scores in QST - Comments Were Submitted to ARRL
Message-ID: <kde86zh6flzs28i.230720020805@designet-jsi>
Fellow Contesters,
It took quite a long time, but last week as the ARRL BoD meeting was
approaching, we did get the promised Contest Coverage document out to ARRL HQ
staff and to the individual board members. The document can be viewed at:
PDF version: http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
and
HTML version: http://www.designet.com/k1ir/ContestCoverageProposal_071702.htm
About 35 contesters - including ARRL members and non-members, US and non-US
contesters - participated in the creation of this set of proposals. As you'll
observe when you read it, the document goes way beyond the simple question of
how line scores are to be published. It addresses the deeper questions of how
the various aspects of contesting can be presented effectively to all types of
existing and potential audiences.
At this point, we do know that this information was distributed just prior to
the BoD meeting, but we have not heard any specific reactions and we don't know
if or how the proposals influenced voting on the question of line scores.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Tue Jul 23 08:45:07 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
In-Reply-To: <000701c231fd$420b02e0$e451ff40@familyroom>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJMEFEEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> After all, at it's very core, amateur radio is about *operating*,
> isn't it?
> And who does more of that than people like us?
>
The pig-farmers and coal-miners on 75?
>From GaryK9GS at wi.rr.com Tue Jul 23 08:46:24 2002
From: GaryK9GS@wi.rr.com (Gary K9GS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K3EST E-Mail Address??
Message-ID: <001801c23246$f44bc0e0$9a991f41@wi.rr.com>
Does anyone have K3EST's correct e-mail address??
Both the mailto on the CQ Magazine web page and the K3EST@mother.com bounce.
73,
Gary
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
K9GS
Gary Schwartz email: k9gs@arrl.net
Check out K9NS on the web http://www.qsl.net/k9ns/
Society of Midwest Contesters (SMC) GMDXA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>From n4zr at contesting.com Tue Jul 23 09:51:01 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723084201.0248a960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Following is from the ARRL Web, which is having server problems this
morning, so I've taken the liberty of excerpting. Deletion marked with "..."
""Section News," Line Scores Moving from QST to Web; Great Lakes Director
Steps Down
NEWINGTON, CT, Jul 22, 2002--Starting next January, "Section News" and
contest line score results will appear on the ARRL Web site rather than in
QST. Meeting July 19-20 in Windsor, Connecticut, the ARRL Board of
Directors voted 9-6 to approve a resolution formally relocating "Section
News" to the ARRL Web site. "Section News" has appeared in the League's
official journal at least since 1919. The "Section News" Web sites--already
in place--will provide the officials of each ARRL section "the capability
of an up-to-date information resource that can be tailored to the needs of
their section," the resolution said.
...
In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed that the
ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the results of
ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will appear in QST. The
change does not affect ARRL Field Day results, which will continue to be
published in the magazine.
A Web site established earlier this year now includes, among other
features, a searchable database of contest line scores for members and the
ability to easily analyze individual and club scores. There's also an
on-line Soapbox to post comments and photos immediately after a contest, as
well as an expanded narrative for each event. In addition, the resolution
pointed out, the ARRL now offers members the free Contest Rate Sheet
newsletter, which focuses specifically on contesting."
It troubles me is that there is no indication of any intention to improve
in-print coverage of contesting topics, paralleling that in the discussion
on Section News. Perhaps one or more of the directors who reads this
reflector can explain further.
73, Pete N4ZR
>From ludal at dmv.com Tue Jul 23 10:47:47 2002
From: ludal@dmv.com (Dallas Carter)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest reporting
References: <20020722215441.41977.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
<000701c231fd$420b02e0$e451ff40@familyroom>
Message-ID: <00b901c2324f$8a963460$14ea21a2@com>
With all due respect to Jim and others, It was nice to see
how the board voted on this issue; but:
I think we kicked all the air out of this ball 6 months ago.
Many of us wrote to our directors to make our cases, and
it was discussed here ad nausium. The action has now been
taken, and reflects the feelings of the directors constituancies.
At this point we should give the web alternative a chance.
So far, I like what I see; and I was an opponent of the
proposal.
Those who make the point that contesters are the ones who
support the advertisers have not done a very thorough analysis
of the market. The position is only partially true and not
mutually exclusive. The FACT is that contestors ARE in the
numerical minority with regard to ARRL membership, and the
vote probably does represent the membership. If you want
to vote with your feet, that's fine, but let's get this venue back
to contesting topics and drop the League bashing.
73 Dallas W3PP
>From jonathan.schulz at sbt.siemens.com Tue Jul 23 09:48:07 2002
From: jonathan.schulz@sbt.siemens.com (Schulz Jonathan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
Message-ID: <9C9D44629453D611874300508B91A4AC116EC4@hubs.us.abatos.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren C. Stankiewicz [mailto:nf1j@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:59 PM
> To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
>
>
> Well, if folks are this upset, let's look at the political economic
> situation here (without trying to sound Marxist)...
>
> Who voted for this?
>
> Isely-W9GIG-Central Div.,
>
> That's SMC territory, isn't it?
>
Sure is! And Dick is a semi active participant in SS and other contests,
going to have to ask him about this sometime. My take on the whole thing; if
the Web coverage could give us the results in a more timely manner and
continue to be as good as the ones I have seen so far, (SS, ARRL 160) I
couldn't care less that they are dropping line scores in QST.
73,
Jon
K9JLS
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Tue Jul 23 10:47:42 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHCECHDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Guys,
Thanks to you all for the inputs, on how to remove the
overspray of OFF from my laptop and radio, after Field Day.
I thought maybe it'd be worth some quick feedback.
First, no soap removed the little white spots on the laptop case.
I was about to try denatured alcohol, in a small spot, when I decided
to give skin-so-soft a try, first. It removes pine pitch and other stuff from
hair and clothing, so, maybe.... et voila!
Three drops on a damp cloth, and some light rubbing...and the stuff
is gone. Not only do I have a clean station, but it's the sweetest smelling
station in the neighborhood! (be sparing, and wipe it down with a dry cloth
afterwards.)
Next year, I'm going to provide a spray bottle with 50/50 of water/skin-so-soft.
That way, I'm reasonably assured it'll come off. OFF will be banned from the
CW tent!
For those of you who doubt the insect chasing properties of this stuff...don't.
a 50% sol'n w/water works well as a spray. We use it in VT against black flies
and
mosquitos, and in the Carribean for mustiques & no see 'ums. Works great.
73, Jim, n2ea
>From w2up at mindspring.com Tue Jul 23 11:38:35 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723084201.0248a960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
I find it surprising, and disappointing, that two of the directors, K1KI
and N2FF, both of whom are contesters, voted to remove contest
results from QST. While they are under no obligation to explain
themselves, perhaps they would care to, anyway...
Personally, I find QST of little interest of value. As the League is
interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
priced membership:
One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
Comments?
73,
Barry W2UP
On 23 Jul 02, at 8:51, Pete Smith wrote:
> Following is from the ARRL Web, which is having server problems this
> morning, so I've taken the liberty of excerpting. Deletion marked
> with "..."
>
> ""Section News," Line Scores Moving from QST to Web; Great Lakes
> Director Steps Down
>
> NEWINGTON, CT, Jul 22, 2002--Starting next January, "Section News" and
> contest line score results will appear on the ARRL Web site rather
> than in QST. Meeting July 19-20 in Windsor, Connecticut, the ARRL
> Board of Directors voted 9-6 to approve a resolution formally
> relocating "Section News" to the ARRL Web site. "Section News" has
> appeared in the League's official journal at least since 1919. The
> "Section News" Web sites--already in place--will provide the officials
> of each ARRL section "the capability of an up-to-date information
> resource that can be tailored to the needs of their section," the
> resolution said.
>
> ...
>
> In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed that
> the ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the results
> of ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will appear in
> QST. The change does not affect ARRL Field Day results, which will
> continue to be published in the magazine.
>
> A Web site established earlier this year now includes, among other
> features, a searchable database of contest line scores for members and
> the ability to easily analyze individual and club scores. There's also
> an on-line Soapbox to post comments and photos immediately after a
> contest, as well as an expanded narrative for each event. In addition,
> the resolution pointed out, the ARRL now offers members the free
> Contest Rate Sheet newsletter, which focuses specifically on
> contesting."
>
> It troubles me is that there is no indication of any intention to
> improve in-print coverage of contesting topics, paralleling that in
> the discussion on Section News. Perhaps one or more of the directors
> who reads this reflector can explain further.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
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Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From k4ja at crosslink.net Tue Jul 23 16:25:50 2002
From: k4ja@crosslink.net (K4JA Paul)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <002901c2325d$3bbec2e0$0601a8c0@gipper>
Hello Barry
My thoughts also, I have been thinking the very same thing all day long as I
read the mail.
73 Paul
> One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> Comments?
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 23 12:35:05 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
References: <9C9D44629453D611874300508B91A4AC116EC4@hubs.us.abatos.com>
Message-ID: <3D3D77A9.FA876B88@gte.net>
Schulz Jonathan wrote:
> My take on the whole thing; if the Web coverage could give us the
> results in a more timely manner and continue to be as good as the
> ones I have seen so far, (SS, ARRL 160) I couldn't care less that
> they are dropping line scores in QST.
Why is everyone missing the point?
Kid Q. Public picks up a QST at the local newsstand and skims through
it. He sees a bunch of "low tech" articles and a lot of nice photos of
people doing stuff with HT's. He thinks "geeks", and puts it back
down. (He wont bother to visit the ARRL Web site - thinking it's more
"geek" stuff.)
On the other hand, he runs across something about a "contest" which
catches his eye - COOL! He buys QST, and reads further, and perhaps
sparks his interest in Amateur Radio and getting involved in
contesting. That "hook" will no longer be there.
If people don't even know something exists, how will they find out about
it?
Ron
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 23 12:36:48 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <3D3D7810.9FBD9754@gte.net>
Barry wrote:
> One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
Or those who want only NCJ, yet remain an ARRL member.
Ron
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Tue Jul 23 12:41:15 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] league bashing//tree hugging//results
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKECJDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
I find it amusing that a computer oriented constituency such
as one finds on this reflector would continue to bash the
league for not printing line scores.
Both publishing economics and timing favor the web site.
We don't seem to be paragons of progressive thinking on this topic.
Dallas Carter said it well:
"I think we kicked all the air out of this ball 6 months ago.
Many of us wrote to our directors to make our cases, and
it was discussed here ad nausium. The action has now been
taken, and reflects the feelings of the directors constituancies.
At this point we should give the web alternative a chance.
So far, I like what I see; and I was an opponent of the
proposal."
You may not like the league, but it represents the singular hope for
continuing life in this hobby in the US. The regulatory agency defers to
ARRL, in pursuit of self-governance in the service. ARRL's role
is growing.
If you find ARRL flawed, YOU are responsible. Become involved.
And stop whining.
N2EA
Jim Jarvis
>From k1mk at arrl.net Tue Jul 23 09:51:48 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Tue, 23 July 2002, "Barry " wrote
> As the League is
> interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> priced membership:
> One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> Comments?
There'd be a price difference because... ?
Michael Keane K1MK
k1mk@arrl.net
________________________________________________
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http://www.peoplepc.com
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Tue Jul 23 12:06:41 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207231104280.25236-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
All the "good stuff" (for the technically-minded) is in QEX these days.
The last issue I got, which had articles on software-defined radio, was
superb.
And then there's NCJ.
QST doesn't appeal to me much anymore, either.
73, Zack W9SZ
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Barry wrote:
> I find it surprising, and disappointing, that two of the directors, K1KI
> and N2FF, both of whom are contesters, voted to remove contest
> results from QST. While they are under no obligation to explain
> themselves, perhaps they would care to, anyway...
> Personally, I find QST of little interest of value. As the League is
> interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> priced membership:
> One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> Comments?
> 73,
> Barry W2UP
>
>From tree at kkn.net Tue Jul 23 10:09:49 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Board votes - get the facts right
Message-ID: <200207231609.g6NG9n208101@loja.kkn.net>
There were two differnet votes. One was about the section news
(which was a roll call vote). For the contest line scores, I
quote the earlier post:
> In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed that the
> ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the results of
> ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will appear in QST. The
> change does not affect ARRL Field Day results, which will continue to be
> published in the magazine.
Therefore it would seem the current analysis of who did and who didn't vote
for the contest removal is rather pointless. You are talking about who
voted for the Section News issue.
Tree N6TR
>From K7LXC at aol.com Tue Jul 23 13:32:02 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
Message-ID: <6F22685B.47139AA9.0000DB5D@aol.com>
In a message dated Mon, 22 Jul 2002 4:54:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ku8e1@yahoo.com writes:
> I really don't think the ARRL has a clue about demographics.
Actually they do. They spend money periodically to have
in-depth subscriber surveys done. I have an older one and it's quite
interesting. I think they got 2500 surveys back or something like that so I'd
say the results are valid.
> Contesting
> and DXing are by far the most popular amateur radio activities and
> these two groups are the ones buying the products that are advertising
> in QST.
You're right on that.
> Does this mean we are now going to see great articles like "
> How to Effectively Ragchew on the 75 Meter Band" in QST ????
>
Well, they'll be happy for you to send them a really neat article on
contesting or DXing - they actually print some but you have to submit
something.
> Maybe someone can clue me in why the ARRL takes the
> attitude that
> contesters/DXer's are the minority ????
Uh...cuz they are?!?
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Tue Jul 23 17:40:45 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <3D3D870D.80E36FD5@directvinternet.com>
Barry wrote:
> I find it surprising, and disappointing, that two of the directors, K1KI
> and N2FF, both of whom are contesters, voted to remove contest
> results from QST. While they are under no obligation to explain
> themselves, perhaps they would care to, anyway...
----------
I agree whole heartily with Barry's comments above, but since "we"
elected them, I belive we are entitled to a complete explanation.
--------------
> Personally, I find QST of little interest of value.
-----
Again, I agree 100%. Unfortunately, I am stuck with a life membership,
which at the price I paid, has been more than a great bargin. But, if
ARRL continues to fill its pages with "junk" devoted to the least
informed of amateurs, I will consider giving up that membership, just
to remove my name from the membership list.
I personally wish there was an alternative organization. I know that's
bound to be a wish, but I sincerely deplore the decline of this hobby
I have loved for 47 years.
I've said it before, but I believe the only way to change it is to
replace the Directors with those more representative of our interests.
73
Ed
>From w2up at mindspring.com Tue Jul 23 13:44:53 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <E17X2n2-0001iD-00@maynard.mail.mindspring.net>
On 23 Jul 02, at 8:51, Michael Keane, K1MK wrote:
> On Tue, 23 July 2002, "Barry " wrote
>
> > As the League is
> > interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> > priced membership: One for those who want QST, and another price for
> > those that don't. Comments?
>
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
>
> Michael Keane K1MK
> k1mk@arrl.net
> ________________________________________________
Part of my membership dues is put towards printing and mailing of
QST, which I would decline to receive, therefore saving that money.
Or, credit me towards NCJ, QEX or another league publication I
may receive...
Barry
--
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Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Tue Jul 23 17:46:46 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHCECHDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <3D3D8876.141F9CE7@directvinternet.com>
jljarvis wrote:
>
> Guys,
snipped
> For those of you who doubt the insect chasing properties of this
> stuff...don't.
> a 50% sol'n w/water works well as a spray. We use it in VT against black
> flies and
> mosquitos, and in the Carribean for mustiques & no see 'ums. Works great.
>
> 73, Jim, n2ea
Don't know if this product contains it, but NBC ( I think ) ran a news
item a week or so ago, and it showed the results of testing. In short,
if the product doesn't contain an ingredient called "beet" (spelling
is probably wrong ), it's worthless as a repellent.
73
Ed
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 23 13:46:46 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <3D3D8876.10544064@gte.net>
"Michael Keane, K1MK" wrote:
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
Because "Fifty percent of dues is allocated to QST, the balance for
membership".
You don't want QST ... you pay half the current dues.
Ron
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 23 10:53:01 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <3D3D7810.9FBD9754@gte.net>
Message-ID: <20020723165301.46537.qmail@web10502.mail.yahoo.com>
It's too bad that contesters didn't support the NCJ in the past and
it had to be saved by the ARRL. We have the technology today that there
is not a need for national organizations like the ARRL or a magazine
like CQ need to sponsor our contests. Most of those who check the logs
and are sponsoring the awards are donating their time to do this
anyway.
NCJ would of been a great forum to report the results along with other
contesting related articles.....
Jeff
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>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Tue Jul 23 12:57:58 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] league bashing//tree hugging//results
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKECJDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>; from
jljarvis on Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 11:41:15AM -0400
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKECJDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <20020723115758.E19827@cs.utexas.edu>
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 11:41:15AM -0400, jljarvis wrote:
>
> If you find ARRL flawed, YOU are responsible. Become involved.
> And stop whining.
Engaging other League members and potential League members in open debate
about League policy IS becoming involved. Just because they don't agree
with you doesn't mean they are whining - they may just be trying to
persuade their fellows.
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From W0uo at cs.com Tue Jul 23 14:16:49 2002
From: W0uo@cs.com (W0uo@cs.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
Message-ID: <1a0.5b110a5.2a6ee981@cs.com>
Jim,
Skin so soft should keep the bugs out of your rig next year!!
Jim
W0UO/5
>From W0uo at cs.com Tue Jul 23 14:17:43 2002
From: W0uo@cs.com (W0uo@cs.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <64.226c649b.2a6ee9b7@cs.com>
Barry,
W0CP and, possibly, others are contesters as well
Jim
W0UO/5
>From jim at forsyth.net Tue Jul 23 11:07:59 2002
From: jim@forsyth.net (Jim Forsyth)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
References: <9C9D44629453D611874300508B91A4AC116EC4@hubs.us.abatos.com>
<3D3D77A9.FA876B88@gte.net>
Message-ID: <019e01c2326d$fe3e1220$81e4fea9@Hailsham>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Wetjen" <wd4ahz@gte.net>
To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
> Why is everyone missing the point?
When it seems like everybody is wrong except you, then you probably have it
backwards.
Jim, AF6O
>From jim at forsyth.net Tue Jul 23 11:12:37 2002
From: jim@forsyth.net (Jim Forsyth)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <019f01c2326d$ff10f280$81e4fea9@Hailsham>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Keane, K1MK" <k1mk@arrl.net>
To: <w2up@mindspring.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
> On Tue, 23 July 2002, "Barry " wrote
>
> > As the League is
> > interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> > priced membership:
> > One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> > Comments?
>
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
Duh!
Jim, AF6O
>From brnsmth at mo-net.com Tue Jul 23 18:35:30 2002
From: brnsmth@mo-net.com (brnsmth@mo-net.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST economics
Message-ID: <200207231734.g6NHYM5r005131@contesting.com>
OK, so I understand that only a small percentage of ham radio operators are
contesters. Fine. Remove the Contest results and put them online. How about
some suggestions for other cuts first? How about cutting VHF coverage down to
one page? Do I need a map every month of where Jim-Bob and Dave from Arkansas
and Oklahoma made contacts on 6 meters? I don't have a problem with VHF, I
operate it myself from time to time, but for goodness sake, be reasonable in
what you cut.
If participation in ARRL contests sees a noticable decline in the future, we
will know why.
On the other hand, if the ARRL is trying to focus on the majority of hams, the
should focus on the no-code techs. I mean, shouldn't they stop running code
practice at W1AW and stop running those complicated projects. Let's focus on
the majority of hams, most of the ARRL membership would like to know how to
become the guru of the repeater world, surely. So wouldn't an article on how
to erect a tower and guy it with dog chains and bailing wire be more suited to
this marketing strategy?
There are more pages in QST dedicated to traffic handling and ARES than
anything else (if you include the section reports of traffic handled.) What
percentage of hams actually handle traffic nowadays?
I say if you are going to appeal to the largest market, you need to discuss
important issues like, how to use 10 codes and how to convert 11 meter
equipment for Ham use, or better how to convert ham equipment to 11 meter use.
Why talk about HF radios at all?
Dayton's Hamvention seems to by going down this road too, so I won't stick it
all on the League. I am sure there are more shack-on-the-belt goons skulking
around Hara per square foot than anywhere in the world, but I think a little
common sense is called for.....
If they won't take the time to upgrade to HF, what makes you think they will
part with $$$ for equipment? The 2meter only crowd usually has everything they
need.
Your money is in the DX and Contesting markets. I hope, someday, they will
realize that the guys who buy are the ones you cater to. Vegas doesn't spend a
lot of money on comps to the ladies pulling the Nickel Slots.
Sorry for the rant,
It's been building up for a while now,
Brian
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>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Tue Jul 23 11:43:20 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] moving onward
Message-ID: <20020723174320.30634.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com>
Greetings!
As W3PP wrote... let's get back to contesting and
topics surrounding that topic. Getting more
people into contesting always reigns high on the
list of items discussed. The ARRL has acted,
reality is what it is. Let us accept it and move
onward.
For myself.. the question NOW is.. HOW do we as
active/interested (dare I say 'addicted')
contest types get the newbies into what we do?
Let me offer a short hand saying 'Each One.. Win
One!'
Every one of us has friends who are hams OR know
about what we do but don't contest or even know
what it really is.
They MAY know about the overview.. They MAY know
you as the guy who spends his weekends behind
the radio chasing contacts.
BUT.. Do they KNOW what it is that you like
about it? Do they KNOW what it is about
contesting
that lights your fuse and makes you expend the
hours/dollars in pursuit of the goals? Do they
KNOW how contesting can benefit THEM in their
amateur radio pursuits - be it emergency
communications, public service, enjoying
ragchewing on the HF bands, chasing DX?
If you visit a Club.. talk about the SIZZLE of
contesting.. not the boring (to others) stuff.
Sell the buzz.. the sizzle.. dangle some bait.
Your passion adn enthusiasm will come out
and you will attract folks.
Take those who rise to the 'bait' and offer to
show them more.. Treat it like big-game fish
fishing. If you have an eyeball wiht someone..
lay some 'bait' out and see if they nibble.
Regardless.. work on getting just one person
interested in coming to see. IF 10% of the
active contesters did this.. we'd have a sizable
increase. Success begets success.
The resources are out there. The Contest groups
are there.
Onward!
73
Chuck K3FT
not to sound to RAH-RAH.. but that's how I got
introduced to contesting. I'm an average type ham
when it comes to things - interested but need
someone to help me see the 'zing' and excite me
to want to come and see. Did it work? Ask W3PP
and WR3L. They both KNOW what the results of THAT
exposure lead to! <grin>
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Jul 23 15:11:21 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] possible error on my part
Message-ID: <02e501c23274$59717c80$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
>From reading the ARRL recount of the Board Meeting it appears the statistics
I cited as far as which Director voted for QST coverage are not may be in
error.
I believe the information I was given actually is the vote on Section News
being discontinued...does anyone know what the head count/who voted what way
was for the removal of contest results from our National Journal?
K4OJ
>From kilo.mike at gte.net Tue Jul 23 19:47:50 2002
From: kilo.mike@gte.net (Kris Mraz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <3D3DA4D6.F009AD@gte.net>
I think Michael was using sarcasm. QST has no value so why would your
membership dues be reduced if you don't receive it? I thought it was
funny, anyway.
Kris N5KM
> From: Ron Wetjen <wd4ahz@gte.net>
> To: "Michael Keane, K1MK" <k1mk@arrl.net>
> CC: w2up@mindspring.com, cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
>
> "Michael Keane, K1MK" wrote:
>
> > There'd be a price difference because... ?
>
> Because "Fifty percent of dues is allocated to QST, the balance for
> membership".
>
> You don't want QST ... you pay half the current dues.
>
> Ron
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Tue Jul 23 14:33:13 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
In-Reply-To: <3D3D8876.141F9CE7@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207231327570.29977-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On the Microchip PIC microcontroller application notes website is an idea
for a novel mosquito repeller. It simply produces a very quiet duplication
of the sound of a dragonfly's wings. The dragonfly is a natural predator
of the mosquito, and the theory is that the mosquitos will actually try to
avoid areas where they hear dragonflies flying.
I built one using a PIC12C508 and a small piezoelectric transducer.
Surprised me - the darned thing actually works!
73, Zack W9SZ
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, K4SB wrote:
> jljarvis wrote:
> >
> > Guys,
> snipped
> > For those of you who doubt the insect chasing properties of this
> > stuff...don't.
> > a 50% sol'n w/water works well as a spray. We use it in VT against black
> > flies and
> > mosquitos, and in the Carribean for mustiques & no see 'ums. Works great.
> >
> > 73, Jim, n2ea
>
> Don't know if this product contains it, but NBC ( I think ) ran a news
> item a week or so ago, and it showed the results of testing. In short,
> if the product doesn't contain an ingredient called "beet" (spelling
> is probably wrong ), it's worthless as a repellent.
>
> 73
> Ed
>From ford at cmgate.com Tue Jul 23 15:14:01 2002
From: ford@cmgate.com (Ford Peterson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <001501c2327d$1b5d5f00$8cee83d1@office>
On Tue, 23 July 2002, "Barry " wrote
>
> > As the League is
> > interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> > priced membership:
> > One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> > Comments?
>
To which Michael replied:
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
>
> Michael Keane K1MK
*****************************************
For those who never had the option of econ 101 in grade school, eliminating
QST from your "membership" would induce an increase in your dues. Why?
Because the more copies of QST that circulate, the greater the ad revenue.
Ever wonder why trade journals are free? For the same reason QST is free.
Yes, folks, it is free. Your QST costs nothing. Zippo. Zilch. We beat
this topic to death 6 months ago. The more copies they print, the more
valuable the ad space. Reduce the # of printed copies, you reduce revenues.
The current circulation numbers appear to make printing QST a freebee.
Reduce the numbers printed, well, it won't break even any more. I know it
may sound strange, but those are the raw facts of economics in the magazine
business.
Ford-N0FP
ford@cmgate.com
>From k0luz at topsusa.com Tue Jul 23 16:24:43 2002
From: k0luz@topsusa.com (K0LUZ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] possible error on my part
In-Reply-To: <02e501c23274$59717c80$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <LOBBKFICDFPNLHBMOBDKKEBIFJAA.k0luz@topsusa.com>
Believe I saw that that issue was decided by a voice vote. Therefore all
can claim they voted for keeping data in QST. Sounds like the votes taken
in Congress when they are raising their salaries.
Red
K0LUZ
-----Original Message-----
>From reading the ARRL recount of the Board Meeting it appears the statistics
I cited as far as which Director voted for QST coverage are not may be in
error.
I believe the information I was given actually is the vote on Section News
being discontinued...does anyone know what the head count/who voted what way
was for the removal of contest results from our National Journal?
K4OJ
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>From kc5ykx at swbell.net Tue Jul 23 15:23:55 2002
From: kc5ykx@swbell.net (Reid Hill)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
Message-ID: <0GZP002TBV7VHW@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net>
beet..vegitable
deet..chemical
Reid, KC5YKX
07/23/2002 5:46:46 PM, K4SB <hamcat@directvinternet.com> wrote:
>Don't know if this product contains it, but NBC ( I think ) ran a news
>item a week or so ago, and it showed the results of testing. In short,
>if the product doesn't contain an ingredient called "beet" (spelling
>is probably wrong ), it's worthless as a repellent.
>
>73
>Ed
>_______________________________________________
>CQ-Contest mailing list
>CQ-Contest@contesting.com
>http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From tree at kkn.net Tue Jul 23 13:28:06 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
Message-ID: <200207231928.g6NJS6311097@loja.kkn.net>
> Kid Q. Public picks up a QST at the local newsstand and skims through
> it. He sees a bunch of "low tech" articles and a lot of nice photos of
> people doing stuff with HT's. He thinks "geeks", and puts it back
> down. (He wont bother to visit the ARRL Web site - thinking it's more
> "geek" stuff.)
Is Kid Q. Public more likely to find a QST at a local newstand - or stumble
upon the ARRL Web Page on the net?
Tree
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 23 13:45:54 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207231945.g6NJjs723411@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary or to correct your post,
please visit: 3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
J75KG 1654 661 192 24 1,776,768 FCG
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
W7GG 362 300 44 9 265,742
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S LP
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 0 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
DH7KU 550 0 66 16 134,640 DK0UN University Rad
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW LP
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
W4BCG 75 0 40 6 9,400 TCG
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC
K6XX 1264 247 179 22 1,030,682 NCCC
UY5ZZ 991 304 123 956,032
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 14 463,606 HSDXA
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 k 118,230
S57UN(@S52ZW) 430 26 27 5 117,432 SCC
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
K1HT 399 123 139 8 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
DF1DX 141 114 92 13 71,300 RR DX
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 22 2,342,130 Other (specify when
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
RN4LP 0 1505 251 24 1,175,433
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
FM5GU 0 1492 99 9 609,246
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 162,047
DL4RCK 0 286 72 8 98,412 BCC
NQ4U 0 235 49 8 81,498 TCG
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
W7GG K7ZUM,KC7TWZ,W7GG
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 23 13:46:32 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207231946.g6NJkWU23420@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary or to correct your post,
please visit: 3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
KB8U 227 99 17 30,888
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
K8CC 130 72 6 12,240 MRRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
K0UK 2 2 27 6 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/2 QRP
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 QRP
N3AWS 5 4 3 20
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 23 13:47:40 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207231947.g6NJlea23429@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary or to correct your post,
please visit: 3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
W6YX 446 156 10 69,576 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
VA3DX 388 147 10 58,200
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 9 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
9A5W(@9A1A) 301 107 9 32,207
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K7ZUM 241 118 7 28,438 WVDXC
N1NB 240 105 7 25,200
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
W4BCG 222 107 9 23,754 TCG
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
W6ZL(BIGWAVE) 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
KD8FS 195 97 5 18,915
LP7H(LU9HS) 227 76 10 17,252
K3FH 176 98 8 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 6 14,964
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
K1XX 161 78 9 12,090
IK0HBN 150 57 9 8,550
WB0O 110 71 2 7,810
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 2 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K9SZ 48 33 1,584
K6OWL 46 34 2 1,564
F6FJE 24 23 5 552
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
W6YX K6ENT,N6DE,W6ZZZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 23 13:48:27 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207231948.g6NJmRr23438@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary or to correct your post,
please visit: 3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Rover LP
N4PN 676 75 400 57 20 20,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
N4GG 78 10 64 10 9 12,284 PVRC
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NJ8J 43 7 21 7 3 2,604 SECC
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op QRP
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 1 15 SECC
Operators:
(none)
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Tue Jul 23 15:46:21 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Board votes - get the facts right
References: <200207231609.g6NG9n208101@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <036b01c23281$9f7af280$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>There were two differnet votes. One was about the section news
>(which was a roll call vote). For the contest line scores, I
>quote the earlier post:
>
>>In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed that the
>>ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the results of
>>ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will appear in QST. The
>>change does not affect ARRL Field Day results, which will continue to be
>>published in the magazine.
>
>Therefore it would seem the current analysis of who did and who didn't vote
>for the contest removal is rather pointless. You are talking about who
>voted for the Section News issue.
>
> Tree N6TR
Interesting point ... which raises the question of WHY did they address
the Section News issue in a different manner than the Contest issue?
Other than political "protection" ... as they knew exactly what would
happen if the exact votes were known to the contesting membership?
Here we have our "elected leaders" hiding behind a voice vote so we
can't be for certain who did or did not oppose this. How wonderful ...
I thought "they" were doing this to reduce costs and page counts ... I
saw no mention of that in the official ARRL release. So where's the
$$$$ savings that 6 months ago was driving this 'must happen' issue?
And what's next to be removed?
A sad day for the hobby, the ARRL and for contesting especially ... it
will interesting to see what "they" do next.
73 Billy AA4NU ... one of those disappointed minority contestor types ...
>From tree at kkn.net Tue Jul 23 13:52:09 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Removing Field Day residue from my QST
Message-ID: <200207231952.g6NJq9S11438@loja.kkn.net>
Can I use Skin-So-Soft to remove the contest line scores from my old QSTs?
Tree
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Tue Jul 23 16:57:14 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] possible error on my part
In-Reply-To: <LOBBKFICDFPNLHBMOBDKKEBIFJAA.k0luz@topsusa.com>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDEEGNENAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
I'm surprised that the Section News debacle wasn't by voice vote
as well. The public service folks (traffic handlers, ARES types, etc.)
get precious little recognition as it is, and many were driven by a
desire to see their call in the magazine once a month (BPL, traffic
totals, etc.)
I know that during the 4 years I was Ohio Section Manager, if I missed
including a callsign for someone who reported traffic to me, I heard
about it loud and long.
Of course, traffic handlers are a smaller consituancy than even
contesters, so they can be "dissed" without fear of meaningful
retaliation, despite their direct link to the origins of the ARRL.
I expect that this was the straw that broke the camel's back in
the resignation of the Great Lakes Director, who had a long
history in the Field Organization before joining the Board. he
reportedly didn't even wait until after the halfway point of the
meeting to leave.
Gotta run the League as a business. Can't keep any of those
nostalgic links to the past.
Perhaps they can use the Wouff Hong as firewood this Winter
to conserve fuel and save a buck?
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of K0LUZ
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 15:25
> To: Jim White, K4OJ; fcg@mailman.qth.net; CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] possible error on my part
>
>
>
> Believe I saw that that issue was decided by a voice vote. Therefore all
> can claim they voted for keeping data in QST. Sounds like the votes taken
> in Congress when they are raising their salaries.
>
> Red
> K0LUZ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> From reading the ARRL recount of the Board Meeting it appears the
> statistics
> I cited as far as which Director voted for QST coverage are not may be in
> error.
>
> I believe the information I was given actually is the vote on Section News
> being discontinued...does anyone know what the head count/who
> voted what way
> was for the removal of contest results from our National Journal?
>
> K4OJ
>
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Tue Jul 23 17:04:40 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST and Contest Coverage
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723155910.024b8d90@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Everyone seems to have missed an important point in my post this morning,
so I'll repeat it here:
"It troubles me is that there is no indication of any intention to improve
in-print coverage of contesting topics, paralleling that in the discussion
on Section News. Perhaps one or more of the directors who reads this
reflector can explain further."
Unless and until I know what the Board's intentions in this regard are, I'm
not condemning anybody. It DOES concern me, though, that nothing was said,
because I know these news releases are carefully written. If no line
scores means no improvement/expansion in other contest coverage in QST,
then I would be upset.
As far as line scores are concerned, I'm willing to see them go on line,
particularly with the improvements that have been made. It seems to me
that the contester community is overwhelmingly more on-line than the total
ARRL member population, and that those young newbies we talk about
attracting are also likely to be able to access things on the web.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Tue Jul 23 16:11:31 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
References: <200207231928.g6NJS6311097@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <03a201c23285$23be2be0$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>Is Kid Q. Public more likely to find a QST at a local newstand - or stumble
>upon the ARRL Web Page on the net?
So why not have the option of BOTH?
You want to eliminate something that does not fit your agenda, then don't
support it, or LIMIT the public support of it ... and hope it will just go
away.
You want to grow a market, find new participants, then you EXPAND
your influence. You do not overlook any potential points of contact. You
constantly look for new opportunities to advance your cause ...
So which of the above describes the ARRL strategy for ... contesting?
We saw the handwriting on the wall 6 months ago, and we realized that
there was nothing that could be done to change it. The fuss then was
that "they" were going to do it without membership comment. And what
difference did all of our posts make? Nothing. Now it is a done deal ...
The potential of the website format is unknown, and what if another
"voice vote" is taken that says due to cost considerations it goes away?
What is certain is the loss of a known point of contact and positive
encouragement within the printed material to give new exposure of
contesting to future participants.
73 Billy AA4NU
>From w1wef at c4.net Tue Jul 23 17:52:08 2002
From: w1wef@c4.net (Jack Schuster)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST contest content
Message-ID: <3D3DC1F8.9426FD1C@c4.net>
I too like what I see on the web ...far more room there and more data
than we've ever seen in print anywhere. I still expect to see writeups
after each contest in QST...only the scores outside of the box scores
will move to the web.
Submit a general interest article on contesting for QST and see what
happens!
73 JACK W1WEF
>From w1wef at c4.net Tue Jul 23 18:17:06 2002
From: w1wef@c4.net (Jack Schuster)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re QST contest results
Message-ID: <3D3DC7D2.7BB26650@c4.net>
Ed...if you want to transfer your life membership to me for what you
paid for it, I'd be interested and I'm almost 65!
Too much is being made of this. The web reports are more thorough than
anything ANY magazine ever published. There WILL still be writeups on
contesting in QST. We get more than a magazine for our dues.I believe
there are something like 175,000 League members, and we are happy to see
3500 or so contest log submissions for a contest.
Way back when, I handled traffic and read the section reports. Who
knows...there might be more people reading them than contest results!
Let's lighten up on the Director bashing over this. They don't get paid
all that much. :>) JACK W1WEF
>From ford at cmgate.com Tue Jul 23 17:20:04 2002
From: ford@cmgate.com (Ford Peterson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Bashing
Message-ID: <001c01c2328e$bcdf70a0$a6ee83d1@office>
Have you ever been working a contest an run into somebody demanding that you
to crawl back under your rock? I have heard it. So have you...
There is a huge contingent of hams, our director's constituents too, that
hate contesters. They wouldn't stop on a road side for an opportunity to p_
e in your face if they saw you burning. They hate you. And I mean hate.
Why? The perception of bandwidth wasting I suspect. Possibly
inconvenience. Who knows. The point is they are vocal and perhaps the ARRL
is listening to that group at the same time they listen to this group --
(net = zero.)
The question is, how much of this is really economics and how much of it is
political? It would be impossible, politically speaking, to publicly
support the contest haters. We're too big a group. Likewise, it must be
coming increasingly difficult to support contesters -- because the contest
haters are growing in number. What better solution than to blame the
economics of the few pages in QST?
Any comments?
Ford-N0FP
ford@cmgate.com
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Tue Jul 23 18:53:54 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Cleanup--final.
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKEDADKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
I received multiple comments from folks who do not believe
that skin-so-soft repels mosquitos. As far as I am concerned,
it's an essential requirement of a dxpedition kit.
In 50% solution with water, this stuff IS effective. We have
used it sailing in the Caribean, for both mosquitos and no see 'ums.
We use it every day, here in Vermont, against both mosquitos and
black flies.
On days when I'm working on landscaping or antennas, I literally
shower in the stuff, at the end of my morning shower. Mosquitos land...
but get up and go away. Black flies don't even land.
And unlike OFF and Cutter, it doesn't contain insecticides which
can be absorbed into your skin. Both of those are NOT supposed
to be sprayed on skin.
Because this is of marginal relevance, it's my last word on the subject.
Don't believe me; try it yourself. Or don't.
Incidentally, it removes pine tar from clothes and hair, and, if you've
followed this thread, the residue of OFF from my laptop and 756PRO,
without damage.
Live long and prosper.
N2EA
>From k4ww at arrl.net Tue Jul 23 18:57:19 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <003501c23293$eaebd2e0$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
"Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com wrote: "Personally, I find QST of little
interest of value. As the League is interested in cost cutting, perhaps they
should consider a dual-priced membership"
As a Life Member, I will trade my subscription to QST for a lifetime
subscription to NCJ!
C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
>From windev at inetmarket.com Tue Jul 23 19:15:21 2002
From: windev@inetmarket.com (Gerry Hull)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
Message-ID: <20020723181319.5B76.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
any complaints about that?
73,
Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
>From kc5ykx at swbell.net Tue Jul 23 18:06:26 2002
From: kc5ykx@swbell.net (Reid Hill)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Removing Field Day residue from my QST
Message-ID: <0GZQ002YS2QQHO@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net>
Lighter fluid and a match.
07/23/2002 6:52:09 AM, Tree <tree@kkn.net> wrote:
>Can I use Skin-So-Soft to remove the contest line scores from my old QSTs?
>
>Tree
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>From memberlist at www.arrl.org Tue Jul 23 19:08:22 2002
From: memberlist@www.arrl.org (ARRL Web site)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARLB046 "Section News," Line Scores Moving from QST to Web
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020723180806.00b62448@mail.attbi.com>
ZCZC AG46
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 46 ARLB046
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT July 23, 2002
To all radio amateurs
SB QST ARL ARLB046
ARLB046 "Section News," Line Scores Moving from QST to Web
Starting next January, "Section News" and contest line score results
will appear on the ARRL Web site rather than in QST. Meeting July
19-20 in Windsor, Connecticut, the ARRL Board of Directors voted 9-6
to approve a resolution formally relocating "Section News" to the
ARRL Web site. "Section News" has appeared in the League's official
journal at least since 1919. The "Section News" Web sites--already
in place--will provide the officials of each ARRL section "the
capability of an up-to-date information resource that can be
tailored to the needs of their section," the resolution said.
The space freed up by relocating "Section News" will allow more
in-depth coverage of general news, public service activities and
"how-to" articles aimed at involving more amateurs in emergency
preparedness. Members unable to use the Web can request their
section's reports in hard-copy format.
The Board resolution noted that the past six months had given
members the opportunity to understand the reasons for relocating
"Section News," to discuss alternatives and to better understand
and see the advantages of the expanded content available on the Web
site.
Voting for the change were Directors Dick Isely, W9GIG (Central);
Jay Bellows, K0QB (Dakota); Frank Fallon, N2FF (Hudson); Wade
Walstrom, W0EJ (Midwest); Tom Frenaye, K1KI (New England); Dennis
Bodson, W4PWF (Roanoke); Walt Stinson, W0CP (Rocky Mountain); Art
Goddard, W6XD (Southwestern); and Coy Day, N5OK (West Gulf).
Directors Bernie Fuller, N3EFN (Atlantic); Rick Roderick, K5UR
(Delta); George Race, WB8BGY (Great Lakes); Greg Milnes, W7OZ
(Northwestern); Jim Maxwell, W6CF (Pacific); and Frank Butler, W4RH
(Southeastern), voted against the change.
In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed
that the ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the
results of ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will
appear in QST. The change does not affect ARRL Field Day results,
which will continue to be published in the magazine.
A Web site established earlier this year now includes, among other
features, a searchable database of contest line scores for members
and the ability to easily analyze individual and club scores.
There's also an on-line Soapbox to post comments and photos
immediately after a contest, as well as an expanded narrative for
each event. The ARRL also now offers members the free Contest Rate
Sheet newsletter, which focuses specifically on contesting.
NNNN
/EX
>From kcechura at umr.edu Tue Jul 23 18:33:16 2002
From: kcechura@umr.edu (Ken Cechura)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20020723173152.019fb268@pop3.umr.edu>
I see results posted up here all the time... think it's possible to post
somethign on UPCOMING contests (maybe just what it is, when it is, and
maybe the general theme...)?
just a dumb question.....
thanks
Ken
||==============================||
// Kenneth R. Cechura, KC9UMR \\
// kcechura@umr.edu \\
\\ Station Trustee, KF9ART //
\\ Freq Amateur Radio Team //
||==============================||
>From jfunk at adams.net Tue Jul 23 18:17:41 2002
From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] bringing up newbies
Message-ID: <000101c2329a$bb836ca0$04288ad8@adams.net>
In regards to the QST contesting coverage, the following are my opinions,
free and worth every penny:
1) The change to web coverage from print coverage for line scores is
happening. We'll see how it works.
2) ARRL is more than QST. I'm a life member (recently). I'm not gonna ask
for my money back.
3) Contesting will be saved by the contest community, not by magazine
coverage.
a) The "each one bring one" approach is superb.
b) Start young. Look at BARC's "Kids Day". Not a contest. Read the
comments from those who submit logs. "When can we do this again?" "Do we
have to wait a whole six months?" These are the *kids'* comments, not the
old gray guys that were the control ops.
c) Give a program. Not many clubs will refuse a program on contesting
at a monthly meeting. Most program chairmen are desperate for something to
fill a slot. There are probably dozens of members of the contesting
community who have material they'd love to share, complete with slides,
tapes, Power Points, you-name-it.
d) Be a mentor at Field Day. Forego your normal operating time (if
necessary) to sit by a newcomer and coach him/her through some contacts on
SSB or CW.
e) Teach a class. Most of the members of our local club who are active
contesters came up through our club-sponsored licensing classes; and yes,
many started as no-codes.
f) Join a contesting club. If you're a member of SMC, I don't have to
explain this. If you're not, check the number of SMC entries in the last
two Sweepstakes....
g) Host a multi-op. NG9R and I invited KC0MYA (licensed two
months....no-code) here for ARRL VHF in June. He operated several hours and
had a ball...and conditions were lousy. We told him HF was even more fun.
"Wow, I've gotta start studying my code!" He has. Should be a General in a
couple of weeks. AB9DU was licensed a year ago in April. We got him on the
air for Field Day two months later. Not a contest. See how many contacts
you can make. Can you get through the pileup on that KL7? Wanna try CQing?
I'll log for you. Whaddaya think of this logging program? Pretty neat, eh?
Not a contest. Uh-huh.... He's Extra Class, DXCC in one year, goes nuts in
contests, Lighthouse Days, etc.
Sorry I've gotten carried away here. But we can do this....
73, Jim N9JF
>From k1my at msn.com Tue Jul 23 16:59:43 2002
From: k1my@msn.com (Bruce Makas)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] line scores
Message-ID: <032401c2329c$a2fa6100$0101a8c0@pavilion>
In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed
that the ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the
results of ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will
appear in QST. The change does not affect ARRL Field Day results,
which will continue to be published in the magazine.
************************
And of course, since there was a "voice vote" those in favor and those
against will be kept a secret from the membership. Why the secrecy on this
emotional issue? Afraid of reprisals?
Bruce
>From k5zd at charter.net Wed Jul 24 00:20:48 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
In-Reply-To: <3D3D77A9.FA876B88@gte.net>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDCECIDLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Or...
John Q. Public picks up a QST at the local newsstand and skims through it.
He sees a bunch of pages of call signs and numbers. He thinks "boring", and
puts it back down. Jane Q. Ham pretty much does the same thing when QST
arrives in the mail.
Let's face it. If your call isn't included, line scores are pretty boring.
Writeups that just say callsign 1 beat callsign 2 are also pretty dry and
boring. I actually find myself reading through NCJ thinking there are too
many contest scores in there!
For me, the most entertaining part of QST these days is the section up front
with the photos of people doing interesting stuff. The ARRL has been active
in recruiting people to take on the job of contest write-ups. If you have a
talent for generating excitement through the written word, contact N1ND and
volunteer to help! If you aren't a writer, submit some pictures and fun
anecdotes about what happened in the contest to N1ND or the appointed
contest reporter.
QST is full color throughout. No reason we can't put some of that to use in
promoting the fun, thrill, and competition of radio sport.
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ron Wetjen
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 15:35 PM
> To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
>
>
> Schulz Jonathan wrote:
>
> > My take on the whole thing; if the Web coverage could give us the
> > results in a more timely manner and continue to be as good as the
> > ones I have seen so far, (SS, ARRL 160) I couldn't care less that
> > they are dropping line scores in QST.
>
> Why is everyone missing the point?
>
> Kid Q. Public picks up a QST at the local newsstand and skims through
> it. He sees a bunch of "low tech" articles and a lot of nice photos of
> people doing stuff with HT's. He thinks "geeks", and puts it back
> down. (He wont bother to visit the ARRL Web site - thinking it's more
> "geek" stuff.)
>
> On the other hand, he runs across something about a "contest" which
> catches his eye - COOL! He buys QST, and reads further, and perhaps
> sparks his interest in Amateur Radio and getting involved in
> contesting. That "hook" will no longer be there.
>
> If people don't even know something exists, how will they find out about
> it?
>
> Ron
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>From w7why at harborside.com Wed Jul 24 01:48:33 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723084201.0248a960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <3D3DEB51.AF3EB6AF@harborside.com>
Pete Smith wrote:
>Starting next January, "Section News" and
> contest line score results will appear on the ARRL Web site >rather than in
> QST.
Probably in the "members only" section, I suppose.
Tom W7WHY
>From w7why at harborside.com Wed Jul 24 01:58:36 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <3D3DEDAC.5B75C2FB@harborside.com>
"Michael Keane, K1MK" wrote:
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
Because not everyone is interested in being a member of the ARRL,
but they might want to read the mag (for what reason excapes me).
Tom W7WHY
>From w7why at harborside.com Wed Jul 24 02:10:59 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] league bashing//tree hugging//results
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKECJDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <3D3DF093.46179D29@harborside.com>
jljarvis wrote:
> If you find ARRL flawed, YOU are responsible. Become involved.
> And stop whining.
>
I'm responsible? How do you figure that? Involved with what? I
didn't push for codeless licenses or dumbing down the tests. I
was a VE for years but quit because nobody wants to learn code
any more. I belonged to RACES, but nobody could agree where the
station should be or who should be the "boss." Got sick of that!
Went to field day last year and they had a TS-520 on the table
that nobody knew how to tune up (including some general class
operators).
Why doesn't the ARRL just publish the whole magazine on the web?
Oh yeah, they wouldn't get any ad money. As long as they can
keep a token of a magazine going, they can still put ad's in it.
Till the radio companies get tired supporting a magazine that
more and more people don't want to read anyway. Then what?
Tom W7WHY
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Tue Jul 23 21:30:16 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST and Contest Coverage
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723155910.024b8d90@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <063301c232b1$b18cf380$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>Unless and until I know what the Board's intentions in this regard are, I'm
>not condemning anybody. It DOES concern me, though, that nothing was said,
>because I know these news releases are carefully written. If no line
>scores means no improvement/expansion in other contest coverage in QST,
>then I would be upset.
Pete,
If I were planning the strategy of this series of miss-steps, I'd do
exactly what has been done. Do what you need to do, but allow for
a rather vague and at the time of decision, "unknown" response.
There's tremendous power in such a strategy view. They can take
a wait and see response, weather out the initial unloading of emotion,
and then do the very minimum amount of damage control needed.
That's the day to day Corporate 101 strategy and control process.
We've got some "good contest folks" inside the ARRL ... that are now
caught in the middle of this silent zone. Let's keep that in mind. Those
are the ones who will be given the challenge to put a positive spin on
what just occurred. If they don't ... then look for more departures from
members, directors, and paid staff there.
What's next ... no more support for CW? Wider phone bands then?
73 Billy AA4NU (who is still wondering ... where are the cost savings?)
>From k4vud at hotmail.com Wed Jul 24 02:53:50 2002
From: k4vud@hotmail.com (Charles Harpole)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Cabrillio format reporting problems
Message-ID: <LAW2-F100wXCPa8lMES00011033@hotmail.com>
Call me a "giver upper" or whatever, but I give up on reporting my contest
logs in Cabrillio format. I purchased AGAIN a new version of CT and have
tried to generate the proper log format acceptable to CQ and ARRL. I have
never gotten it right. I have listened to and read advice from well-meaning
helpers. I have still not gotten it right. I have had generous HQ guys
convert my logs for me. But, I did not get it right by muself.
At this point in my ham career/interest, I just do not have the gumption or
whatever it takes to mess with it. Call me old fashioned, but I just like
to print out the log on real paper and mail that in along with my REAL PAPER
signed cover form.
Since that is no longer acceptable, for the time being, I will simply love
to run contests and keep my logs home in my dadburned balky computer. I
will try to find the score lists, where ever the sponsors POST them, and
imaginatively insert my score and enjoy my placement as good as it may be.
My effort would not be printed in the magazines anymore anyway. Sorry FCG,
my dab of numbers will not join yours, as much as my wishing could make it
so. 73,
Charles Harpole
k4vud@hotmail.com
_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
>From ford at cmgate.com Tue Jul 23 21:57:15 2002
From: ford@cmgate.com (Ford Peterson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Bashing
References: <001c01c2328e$bcdf70a0$a6ee83d1@office>
Message-ID: <007401c232b5$70416b00$0300a8c0@Lab>
The question is, how much of this QST stuff is really economics and how
much of it is
political? It would be impossible, politically speaking, to publicly
support the contest haters. We're too big a group. Likewise, it must be
coming increasingly difficult to support contesters -- because the contest
haters are growing in number. What better solution than to blame the
economics of the few pages in QST?
Any comments?
Ford-N0FP
ford@cmgate.com
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From k7qq at netzero.net Wed Jul 24 04:49:05 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] K3EST E-Mail Address??
Message-ID: <00f701c232c5$45269de0$79f93442@k7qq>
Here is the one I have
K3EST@cqww.com
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary K9GS" <GaryK9GS@wi.rr.com>
To: "CQ Contest Mail Reflector" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:46
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K3EST E-Mail Address??
> Does anyone have K3EST's correct e-mail address??
>
> Both the mailto on the CQ Magazine web page and the K3EST@mother.com
bounce.
>
>
> 73,
> Gary
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> K9GS
> Gary Schwartz email: k9gs@arrl.net
> Check out K9NS on the web http://www.qsl.net/k9ns/
> Society of Midwest Contesters (SMC) GMDXA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
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>From wc4h at itis.net Wed Jul 24 00:37:27 2002
From: wc4h@itis.net (Carl - WC4H)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [FCG] Cabrillio format reporting problems
References: <LAW2-F100wXCPa8lMES00011033@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c232c3$703b4820$5000a8c0@winxp>
Hmmm. I created mine no problem. There's nothing special to do.
Just use the "writelog" command from the program. Then go to the directory
where you log is at and you'll see a file k4vud.log.
Email it to the contest sponsor. You're done!
Caveats:
1. You filled out the program info on the first screen of CT.
2. You entered whatever the contest sponsor says to enter in your subject
line.
Carl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Harpole" <k4vud@hotmail.com>
To: <fcg@mailman.qth.net>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:53 PM
Subject: [FCG] Cabrillio format reporting problems
> Call me a "giver upper" or whatever, but I give up on reporting my contest
> logs in Cabrillio format. I purchased AGAIN a new version of CT and have
> tried to generate the proper log format acceptable to CQ and ARRL. I have
> never gotten it right. I have listened to and read advice from
well-meaning
> helpers. I have still not gotten it right. I have had generous HQ guys
> convert my logs for me. But, I did not get it right by muself.
> At this point in my ham career/interest, I just do not have the gumption
or
> whatever it takes to mess with it. Call me old fashioned, but I just like
> to print out the log on real paper and mail that in along with my REAL
PAPER
> signed cover form.
> Since that is no longer acceptable, for the time being, I will simply love
> to run contests and keep my logs home in my dadburned balky computer. I
> will try to find the score lists, where ever the sponsors POST them, and
> imaginatively insert my score and enjoy my placement as good as it may be.
> My effort would not be printed in the magazines anymore anyway. Sorry
FCG,
> my dab of numbers will not join yours, as much as my wishing could make it
> so. 73,
>
> Charles Harpole
> k4vud@hotmail.com
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> The Florida Contest Group: http://www.qsl.net/fcg/ or
http://www.fcg.club
> Post your scores: http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
> FCG QSL Cards: http://www.qth.com/star/FCG
> FCG Cluster Information: http://www.qsl.net/fcg/cluster.html
> FCG Shirts & Hats: http://www.qsl.net/fcg/cart.html
> FCG@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/fcg
>
>From k3ft at erols.com Wed Jul 24 00:22:12 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] vote on removing contest items from QST
References: <3D3DF96C.46A2@erols.com> <3D3DFA0D.2993@erols.com>
<3D3E14D7.358A@erols.com> <3D3E2336.77FE@erols.com> <3D3E241F.508E@erols.com>
Message-ID: <3D3E2B74.5363@erols.com>
Hi!
Since my concerns about why votes were taken in one area yet not in another
along with
other questions were elevated, I decided to ask EACH director who was there for
some
solid, honest answers. Here is what I asked each and every one. I thought many
of you
have the same questions. Perhaps I will receive responses and that will provide
us all
some accurate 'from the horse's mouths' answers to the questions we all have.
All I want is honest truthful answers. I may not agree with the decision, but I
can
handle the truth. I may be out of bounds asking the questions, but as a member
of the
group I believe we have the duty to inquire so as to be informed as to what our
elected
representatives are up to. Keep everything straight and on the up and up.
I'll let you all know what I get back. I figure posting it here will give
everyone the
'straight scoop' that I get and help eliminate the 'I heard..' 'He said..' 'I
think I
read...' syndrome we are all aware of. I will provide complete sourcing so you
will be
able to track it for yourself.
73
CHuck K3FT
==================================
Hello,
As a paid-up, currently enrolled, ARRL member I need to ask a question. I would
appreciate an honest answer. I ask in seriousness, nnot seeking to bash or cast
aspersions or dissension. I really want to know as a member of the ARRL.
I noted that the vote was recorded for the removal of section news but only a
VOICE VOTE
(no record of vote) was taken on the issue of removing contest items from QST
and
placing them on the web.
#1 Question - How did you vote on the removal of contest items from QST?
#2 Question - Why was there a recorded roll call vote for Section news removal
and NOT
for contest items removal? Why was one considered 'less necessary to record the
vote' than the other since both involved 'niche' components of the total ARRL
membership and QST page allocation? (The cynical ones scream 'Political cover!'
but I am
inclined to wait for the answer from those who were there before I draw any
conclusions.)
#3 Question - Who voted YEA (FOR removal) and NAY (AGAINST removal) of contest
items
from QST?
#4 Question - Has the 3 proposal item produced by Ward Silver N0AX ( at the
request of
the ARRL when the issue of removing QST coverage of contest items came up) been
recieved, read, and has any comments been made as to the proposal's validity and
possible adoption by ARRL?
Again, I am seeking honest answers to some very tough questions. Many of the
ARRL
members who have spoken publicly (and privately) have commented on the fact
that the
more publicized issue (contest items) was unrecorded while the less
controverisal item
(section news) WAS recorded. To them.. it contains a ratehr intense aroma of
rather
rancid fish and gives grave concern as to the relevance of ARRL to many of them.
Personally.. I am in favor of ARRL, it's all we have and it is needed.. BUT I
am not a
rose colored glasses guy who says 'My League.. regardless of whatever happens!'
I
support the ARRL but I MUST question those in charge responsible for handling
things for
me to be open, upfront and above board... even if it risks 'insulting the
higher ups'.
It keeps the membership honest and keeps the lines of communications open both
ways.
I have no perception that you would be anything else than responsible, ethical,
and
open, and would appreciate aanswers to my questions.
If the ARRL mgmt has said you cannot comment or otherwise.. that's fine. If
it's the
truth.. then it's the truth and I can and do respect that. However, I would
like to
know the reality and the truth.
Thanks for reading. I look forward to hearing from you .
vy 73
Chuck K3FT
>From swca at swbell.net Wed Jul 24 05:45:14 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <20020723165301.46537.qmail@web10502.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <014501c232f6$d0ea6100$0100a8c0@TL01>
>It's too bad that contesters didn't support the NCJ in
>the past and it had to be saved by the ARRL.
Spilled milk. Yes, it is too bad.
I would also have preferred the NCJ to have remained unaffiliated with the
ARRL (I published it in the 70s). I was concerned we would lose a valuable
non-ARRL-centered forum.
But now, thanks to the efforts of the web-pioneers among us (Trey and Bill
come to mind, and we all know there are a bunch of others), we have got a
non-ARRL-centered forum now which is much more powerful than any print
periodical ever was or ever will be.
I don't think this "QST pages" thing is a big deal, and more power to the
ARRL for exercising responsible cost management. Every time I read about
how the ARRL responded to an FCC proposal, which is frequent and
comprehensive, THAT is when I say "my ARRL dollars at work."
Any more, I could take or leave QST, but that is of relatively little
importance to me. I trust the new marketing and development people to use
QST however they have to, to best ensure the future of ham radio.
"The future is the WEB, man."
Mark, N5OT
>From jim at forsyth.net Wed Jul 24 05:21:12 2002
From: jim@forsyth.net (Jim Forsyth)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Vote
Message-ID: <005a01c23304$3aa36df0$81e4fea9@Hailsham>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Art Goddard" <w6xd@attbi.com>
To: "Jim Forsyth" <jim@forsyth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: Vote
> Jim-
>
> Thanks for your interest in ARRL Board activities!
>
> I support the Board's decision to complete the relocation of ARRL contest
> line scores to the ARRL web.
>
> 73, Art W6XD
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Wed Jul 24 10:04:42 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <20020723181319.5B76.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDEEHJENAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Gerry Hull
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 18:15
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
>
>
> Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
> results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
> any complaints about that?
>
> 73,
>
> Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
Perhaps because CQ is not the membership journal of our
organization, but simply a business.
CQ is not answerable to any of us, but ARRL should be.
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Wed Jul 24 10:11:37 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] sure...
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHIEDFDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Sure....
but you'll smell like a wuss!
Jim, N2EA
From: Tree <tree@kkn.net>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Removing Field Day residue from my QST
Can I use Skin-So-Soft to remove the contest line scores from my old QSTs?
Tree
-0-
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Wed Jul 24 10:28:11 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest & QST bashing, redux
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHIEDGDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
From: "Ford Peterson" <ford@cmgate.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Bashing
Have you ever been working a contest an run into somebody demanding that you
to crawl back under your rock? I have heard it. So have you...
There is a huge contingent of hams, our director's constituents too, that
hate contesters. They wouldn't stop on a road side for an opportunity to p_
e in your face if they saw you burning. They hate you. And I mean hate.
Why? ... Who knows. The point is they are vocal and perhaps the ARRL
is listening to that group at the same time they listen to this group --
(net = zero.)
The question is, how much of this is really economics and how much of it is
political? It would be impossible, politically speaking, to publicly
support the contest haters. We're too big a group. Likewise, it must be
coming increasingly difficult to support contesters -- because the contest
haters are growing in number. What better solution than to blame the
economics of the few pages in QST? Any comments?
-0-
Yes. My monitoring during the week, at odd hours, suggests that the bands
are increasingly UNoccupied. It is true that contests produce bedlam
and disorder, and contention for frequencies, and I'm sure they seriously
anger people in various constituencies.
It has been variously observed that contesters are a)opinion leaders,
b)majority
constituents of ARRL, c)majority of licensees, and d) better trained
communicators,
e) with better equipped stations. And they smell good, too, I suppose.
Without
data to prove any of that, all arguments are only words in a sea of words.
Is there survey information available from CQ, QST, Contesting.com, and other
sites
which, when assembled, might allow us to make some defensible general
assertions
about the 'sport' and the dimensions of its community? Does this suggest a
project for someone?
For the record, I favor the online reporting of timely results, the
conservation of
trees, and printing more interesting stories about contests, rather than line
scores, which generate about as much enthusiasm as pickled beets.
Rather than bashing the ARRL directors for leading....let's encourage them
to CONTINUE to lead, by expanding the editorial content.
N2EA
>From n2mg at eham.net Wed Jul 24 11:44:54 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
Message-ID: <200207241344.g6ODir5r023224@contesting.com>
You can get upcoming contest info from several online sources already,
so there's really no need (and probably a bad idea) to repost the info
here.
Some online calendars:
http://www.sk3bg.se/contest/
http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/weeklycont.html
http://www.contesting.com
http://www.arrl.org/contests/calendar.html
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/awards.html
If you like email reminders, try the contest Rate Sheet that the ARRL
and NØAX puts out
http://www.arrl.org/contests/rate-sheet/about.html
73 Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by Ken Cechura <kcechura@umr.edu> on Tue, 23 Jul
2002 17:33:16 -0700.
> I see results posted up here all the time... think it's
> possible to post somethign on UPCOMING contests (maybe just
> what it is, when it is, and maybe the general theme...)?
>From n2mg at eham.net Wed Jul 24 11:53:42 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <200207241353.g6ODrg5r023359@contesting.com>
Tom Osborne wrote:
>
> Pete Smith wrote:
>
> > Starting next January, "Section News" and contest line score
> > results will appear on the ARRL Web site >rather than in QST.
>
> Probably in the "members only" section, I suppose.
ARRL has been publishing contest results in Members Only for the first
month or so, but then moving them to the open section. So non-members
have been able to get a free ride (if one were willing to wait a
month) - no need to join or to even buy QST to see the results. I
suspect this procedure will continue.
Mike N2MG
>From k2av at contesting.com Wed Jul 24 10:57:14 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020723173152.019fb268@pop3.umr.edu>
Message-ID: <004901c2331a$04214250$0500a8c0@swift>
Do a Google search on "ham radio contest calendar" and pick the one
you like the best. Keep a "bookmark" or "favorites" entry (or whatever
your browser calls it). They have the rules for everything and all
that goes on in any given week. That makes it just a click away.
Would be a waste of bandwidth to be constantly shoving it into
people's email boxes.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Cechura" <kcechura@umr.edu>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:33 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
> I see results posted up here all the time... think it's possible to
post
> somethign on UPCOMING contests (maybe just what it is, when it is,
and
> maybe the general theme...)?
>
> just a dumb question.....
>
> thanks
> Ken
>
> ||==============================||
> // Kenneth R. Cechura, KC9UMR \\
> // kcechura@umr.edu \\
> \\ Station Trustee, KF9ART //
> \\ Freq Amateur Radio Team //
> ||==============================||
>
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>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Wed Jul 24 10:07:36 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020723173152.019fb268@pop3.umr.edu>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJMEGJEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Ken,
The info is available 24/7 online:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/calendar.html?year=2002
http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/weeklycont.html
http://www.sk3bg.se/contest/
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/awards.html
http://www.ncjweb.com/contests.php
There's also the e-mailed ARRL Contester's Rate Sheet newsletter, edited by
Ward Silver/N0AX, containing close-in log due dates, upcoming contests and
articles about contests and contesters. See
http://www.arrl.org/contests/rate-sheet/
The Contester's Rate Sheet lists the top 3 URL's above as sources for its
calendar listing of upcoming contests (with descriptions, URL's, etc.).
73,
dale, kg5u
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ken Cechura
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 19:33
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
>
>
> I see results posted up here all the time... think it's possible to post
> somethign on UPCOMING contests (maybe just what it is, when it is, and
> maybe the general theme...)?
>
> just a dumb question.....
>
> thanks
> Ken
>
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>From Jimk8mr at aol.com Wed Jul 24 11:19:08 2002
From: Jimk8mr@aol.com (Jimk8mr@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] One Month and Counting
Message-ID: <119.14dca54c.2a70115c@aol.com>
Summer as always seems to go too quickly. In fact, so quickly it is now only
one month to the 2002 Ohio QSO Party, on Saturday, August 24.
What to do about it?
1. Mark you calendar so you don't get stuck having to visit your wife's
relatives that day. Or make plans to visit those relatives in Ohio.
2. If you use WriteLog, get the new module for the OQP. This was written by
Steve, N9OH, and is available at
<A
HREF="http://www.xnet.com/~sjwoodr/ham/modules";>http://www.xnet.com/~sjwoodr/ham/modules</A>
3. If you don't have software that supports OQP, get the free demo version
of NA which does. This can be downloaded at the OQP web site,
www.mrrc.net/oqp
4. For the latest info on who's going to be active, what mobiles are going
where, etc., subscribe to the OQP reflector. This can be done at the OQP web
site, or by sending a blank email message to
oqp-subscribe@mrrc.net
You'll get the usual confirmation message to which you just need to hit reply
and send.
5. Be ready to have fun working all us OH stations, including one of the
best groups of mobiles of all the state QSO parties.
See you in the Ohio QSO Party, Saturday, August 24. For people in Florida,
that's 31 days away!
Jim K8MR
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>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Wed Jul 24 09:08:53 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Answers to questions I asked.
Message-ID: <20020724150853.80770.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com>
Greetings.
I recieved a multitude of replies from over 50%
of the Directors in response to my request for
answers to my questions. Many were long,
detailed, and contained a lot of information on
how the process worked, how it was handled, the
procedures/protocols involved and much
information which fleshed out the issue for me.
here is a summary of what I received. Although
not all have replied as of this time (and I agree
the time has been short). I believe what I DID
recieve is representative of what the others will
present me due to the consistency of response in
that each person's perspective and information
had the same basic foundation and configuration.
I SENSE NO colusion in responses because it would
be damn difficult to get all those folks to agree
to lie, prevaricate, or shade the truth in this
matter.
Therefore, I accept what they provided as true,
accurate, and straight shooting. That is what I
expected and I was not dissapointed.Therefore, I
believe I can draw some conclusions which I
present for your consideration.
First and foremost.. EACH respondent who answered
me was exceedinly polite, open and honest with
answers, information, and 'extra info' to flesh
out the skeleton of information that I available
to me. Several (including my own Director, N3EFN,
took me on a 'handholding tour' of theprocess and
explained nooks, crannies, and the eddy currents
involved. He didn't have to do that... but he
did. THis further amplified my belief that all
were shooting straight and I could rely on what
they were telling me.
Each one, who responded with information, took
the time to explain their position and provide
some thinking as to what was going on.
Therefore, I wish to thank them all PUBLICLY for
the responses and I find myself reinforced that
things were done above board and without any
shenanigans.
OK.. Here's what I have.
First.. the vote. Several of the Directors
reported that the vote to move the line scores to
the Web was a UNANIMOUS vote. This answered
questions #1 and #2 fully. These were the two
main ones I wanted to know about.
Several noted that the debate over the issue was
'hearty and lively'.
They confirmed that all votes are voice votes and
not all are recorded. Since the vote was
unanimous no record was made.
(ASIDE - I DID responsd that had a simple one
line entry in the public announcement said 'The
vote to move the contest line scores was
unanimously in favor' it would have elimintaed my
need to ask the questions.)
They all retirerated that now that the decision
is made, they will support the decision and move
ahead with the actions necessary to implement the
changes agreed to.
As to having read/seen N0AX (et al) proposal, the
basic comment was that theywere aware of it, but
due to the fact it was presented at/quite near
the meeting they had not had time to read it
fully. This is logical and Ward did confirm that
it was submitted right about the time of the
meeting.
My questions have been answered to my
satisfaction. Each Director who responded did so
with the attitude that my questions were asked in
the spirit of wanting to know - as I intended
them to be recieved. Given the short fuse (Sent
at midnight EDST the previous night and answers
recieved by 10AM this morning!) it was over 50
percent which is good!
Any negative comments/observations expressed in
my original questions were only expressed as an
indicator of what was being heard/read by me in
public/private forums and was not MY opinion or
understanding. I felt they should know what a
simple 'trench-warrior' was hearing.
IN summary.. I am satisfied and my questions have
been answered fully. I have no further concerns
with the way things were done. I further applaud
their responsiveness and openess in filling me in
with the way things are done and handled.
So.. to the Directors.. thank you very much for
your responses.. your desire to inform.. and your
speed in responding.
This may not still the debates in teh Contest
community.. but at least it provides a public
forum for discussion.
vy 73
Chuck K3FT
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>From k0luz at topsusa.com Wed Jul 24 12:50:51 2002
From: k0luz@topsusa.com (K0LUZ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <200207241353.g6ODrg5r023359@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <LOBBKFICDFPNLHBMOBDKMEDIFJAA.k0luz@topsusa.com>
In a sense, this is one positive for promoting more contest activity
because now the non-member who participates in an ARRL contest can see his
score published on the Internet. As a non-member and not a recipient of
QST, I assume it was difficult to find out how they had scored compared to
others in the same category. This is what is called observing "the glass is
half full."
73
Red
K0LUZ
-----Original Message-----
Tom Osborne wrote:
>
> Pete Smith wrote:
>
> > Starting next January, "Section News" and contest line score
> > results will appear on the ARRL Web site >rather than in QST.
>
> Probably in the "members only" section, I suppose.
ARRL has been publishing contest results in Members Only for the first
month or so, but then moving them to the open section. So non-members
have been able to get a free ride (if one were willing to wait a
month) - no need to join or to even buy QST to see the results. I
suspect this procedure will continue.
Mike N2MG
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>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Wed Jul 24 13:17:18 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W4 CW Ops
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207240957170.16252-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Ya'll,
I'm organizing some teams for the upcoming CW NAQP on August 3rd. We
would welcome anyone in W4 in any capacity to join us. We will probably
have at least 2 part-timer teams.
73
Bill, W4AN
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Wed Jul 24 12:49:40 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Answers to questions I asked.
References: <20020724150853.80770.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <021b01c23332$1b43ba40$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>First.. the vote. Several of the Directors
>reported that the vote to move the line scores to
>the Web was a UNANIMOUS vote. This answered
>questions #1 and #2 fully. These were the two
>main ones I wanted to know about.
Sorry ... seems "several of the directors" may have
a problem with their short term memory loss here ...
There was ONE that did not cave in to this vote!
K5UR voted against it ... and he was the only one.
So ... that may skew the rest of the integrity of their
responses to your questions. <sigh> Good grief, if
they can't or won't even recall how the vote went ...
73 Billy AA4NU (cost savings? what cost savings?)
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Wed Jul 24 12:59:50 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <20020723181319.5B76.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Message-ID: <025401c23333$8715d9a0$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
>results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
>any complaints about that?
Apples and oranges here Gerry,
One is a for-profit business ... they can move the WW results to billboards
alongside the road if they chose to do so. Or they can chose to not print
the results, or not to continue support the contests. It's their ball game.
The other is our national organization that months ago stated these
steps were needed for financial reasons ... yet ... there was NO mention
of that in the recent release. Now, whose ball game is this?
73 Billy AA4NU
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Wed Jul 24 14:38:08 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest/DX Program at Austin Summerfest 2002
Message-ID: <20020724133808.G29418@cs.utexas.edu>
CTDXCC, the Central Texas DX and Contest Club, once again is pleased to
present an outstanding program at the Austin Summerfest amateur radio
convention in Austin, Texas, 2-3 August, 2002. The program this year will
feature one of the best DXpeditions of the past year, plus two different
aspects of the popular IARU contest held in mid-July.
The VP8THU/VP8GEO "micro-lite" back-to-the-basics DXpedition included a
proven international team to both the South Sandwich Islands and to South
Georgia on the RV Braveheart. George Fremin, K5TR, one of the excellent
operators in the DXpedition, and the group's computer expert, will give a
personal view of his experience, and tips on cracking big pileups from the
home side.
The program on the WRTC 2002 will be presented by Jim George, N3BB, who
was a referee at the 2002 Helsinki, Finland competition, and a competitor at
the 2000 WRTC in Slovenia. Jim will show photographs of the event and the
actual operation by one of the 52 teams, plus comment on the off-line
discussions during bull sessions, meals and tours. He has some
recommendations on improving your contest capability as distilled from
years of contesting experience, and advice from the world class operators
at the WRTC.
Richard King, K5NA, will present the W1AW/5 operation which honored the
Austin area by hosting the ARRL headquarters operation for the 2002 IARU
HF World Chhampionship. Six terrific central Texas stations, K5NA, K5TR,
N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT operated the IARU as W1AW/5 on all twelve bands,
both SSB and CW. Learn about these stations and their operators, and how
they did (which was very well), plus the innovative internet and logging
system they used so that all six stations had the same database of log
information. Learn about how they dealt with the bad storms which plagued
the area during the IARU contest.
In addition to the program, CTDXCC member Susan King, K5DU, will
be on hand to check DXCC cards for the deserving. Check out
http://www.repeater.org/summerfest/ for information and late breaking
news concerning Summerfest.
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University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
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>From aa4ga at contesting.com Wed Jul 24 16:26:10 2002
From: aa4ga@contesting.com (Lee Hiers, AA4GA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <025401c23333$8715d9a0$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <3D3EC712.12842.350F66@localhost>
On 24 Jul 2002,, Billy Cox wrote:
> The other is our national organization that months ago stated these
> steps were needed for financial reasons ... yet ... there was NO mention
> of that in the recent release.
Yes, it was mentioned a few months back that the results were
being eliminated from QST for financial reasons, but the
announcement in ARLB046 stated:
"the Board agreed that the ARRL Web site now provides a better
medium to report the results of ARRL-sponsored contests, and line
scores no longer will appear in QST."
Which in no way confirms that this is a cost-
saving measure as they previously "advertised".
I would say that it gives reason for concern for
ARRL's continued sponsorship of contests,
possibly even their support of contesting as an
allowable activity on the bands - I would not be
surprised if they proposed a rules change to the
FCC which would prohibit contesting - if you
boil it down to membership numbers, I'm sure the
majority of members (not active $-spending
members, just numbers of members) would support
total elimination of contesting. It's only a
matter of time.
And I just bought another radio...dangit!
Lee
--
Lee Hiers, AA4GA
Cornelia, GA
mailto:aa4ga@contesting.com
>From 00tlzivney at bsu.edu Wed Jul 24 16:11:20 2002
From: 00tlzivney@bsu.edu (Zivney, Terry L.)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
Message-ID: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBB03@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
Because CQ still publishes the lines scores, top ten boxes, etc.
As far as I can see, the only things moved to the web were
the callsigns of the ops of the multi-op stations and a
small box showing the top single op score in each zone.
Thus, the CQ reporting is essentially unchanged in the
magazine.
Terry Zivney, N4TZ/9
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerry Hull [mailto:windev@inetmarket.com]
Sent: Tue 7/23/2002 5:15 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Cc:
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
any complaints about that?
73,
Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
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>From wu4g at pipeline.com Wed Jul 24 17:27:35 2002
From: wu4g@pipeline.com (Ron Bolton)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Additional Serial ports
Message-ID: <001b01c23350$8fa5c040$a344fea9@com>
Anyone tried using the SIIG PCI Expander boards? These seem to be much more
reasonably priced than the Byterunners and come with a 5 year warranty. (SIIG
2S PCI is $54, and 2 additional ports can be added to board for $24, all 4 use
same INT.) I looked at the USB to Serial converters and while they may be easy
to use, are much more expensive (cheapest 4 port was $125). Any other
suggestions?
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>From n4gi at tampabay.rr.com Wed Jul 24 17:53:17 2002
From: n4gi@tampabay.rr.com (n4gi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <3D3EC712.12842.350F66@localhost>
Message-ID: <000801c23354$22ee0990$6c01a8c0@EAC>
> I'm sure the
> majority of members (not active $-spending
> members, just numbers of members) would support
> total elimination of contesting. It's only a
> matter of time.
>
> And I just bought another radio...dangit!
>
> Lee
That's right folks, armageddon is looming.
Tell you what Lee (and any others): I can help in this time of gloom! Send
your new rig(s) to my call book address if you want. Oh, I'll take those
pesky amps and antennas off your hands too if you want (you probably won't
need those either).... I'll make sure that soon-to-be worthless stuff is
disposed of properly. ;-)
Blake N4GI
>From windev at inetmarket.com Wed Jul 24 19:59:52 2002
From: windev@inetmarket.com (Gerry Hull)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBB03@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
References: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBB03@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
Message-ID: <20020724184924.4085.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Yes, but I take CQ's changes personally -- I was one of the operators at
#1 M/S Canadian station VY2SS... Yet nobody would know that
without reading the web :-)
My comment about CQ was just to stir the pot... This reflector
provides great comedy in the off-contest season!
I have three points:
- I am not a member of ARRL because of QST. I am a member of
ARRL because we need a strong national voice for Amateur Radio.
ARRL, like it or not, is that organization. If another viable
organization existed, then I might consider that. <5% of QST
is of interest to me each month -- CQ, maybe 7%. QEX, 100%.
- CQ should be MORE responsive to complaints, if there are any.
That's because we can vote with our pocketbooks. No politics
involved -- just don't subscribe. In the QST/ARRL scenario, if we
vote with our pocketbooks, amateur radio is in deep do-do. So,
we vote by electing the people we want on the board -- and then they
do what they want anyway :-). Best way to change ARRL is to get
involved, rather than BSing on email reflectors.
- Contests will still be a lot of fun, and be very competitive, and
be a great aspect of amateur radio, no matter where the results are
published, and by whom.
73,
Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
> Because CQ still publishes the lines scores, top ten boxes, etc.
> As far as I can see, the only things moved to the web were
> the callsigns of the ops of the multi-op stations and a
> small box showing the top single op score in each zone.
>
> Thus, the CQ reporting is essentially unchanged in the
> magazine.
>
> Terry Zivney, N4TZ/9
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerry Hull [mailto:windev@inetmarket.com]
> Sent: Tue 7/23/2002 5:15 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Cc:
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
> Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
> results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
> any complaints about that?
>
> 73,
>
> Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
>
>
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>From k1ir at designet.com Wed Jul 24 20:23:04 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Line Scores BoD Minute
Message-ID: <vhgq43xnsfbgrxp.240720021923@designet-jsi>
Fellow Contesters and members of the Contest Coverage Working Group,
Below you will find the wording of the BoD minute regarding the decision to
move line scores to the web. Before you draw any conclusions about anything,
take some time to absorb this. We should also give the BoD and HQ some time to
reflect on the proposal we delivered late last week and to prepare and send
along a response. I think it will be a positive one.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
FROM: "Wilson, Mark K1RO" <mwilson@arrl.org>
TO: 'Jim Idelson' <k1ir@designet.com>
DATE: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:11:47 -0400
RE: RE: re[5]: Proposal delivered
Hi Jim,
Here is the minute from the Board meeting dealing with contest reporting.
The full minutes should be on the Web tomorrow.
73, Mark K1RO
_____
35. On motion of Mr. Bellows, seconded by Mr. Isely, it was VOTED that the
following resolution is ADOPTED:
WHEREAS, the ARRL management and ARRL Board of Directors are
committed to the support of contesting and operating activities, and
increasing the understanding and participation of ARRL members in those
activities; and
WHEREAS, the soon-to-be two official means of providing information
to members are QST magazine and the ARRL Web site; and
WHEREAS, ARRL management has significantly improved the capabilities
of the contest web site, including a searchable database of contest line
scores for members with the ability to easily analyze individual and club
scores; an online Soapbox where entrants can post information and photos and
exchange ideas immediately after the contest; expanded the write-up and
amount of information available for each contest; and initiated the email
Contest Rate Sheet newsletter to better inform contest participants; and
WHEREAS, as a means of encouraging increased member enjoyment and
participation in contests, ARRL management and QST editorial staff are
committed to continuing to enhance and improve the contest web site and
maintaining an ongoing presence in QST recognizing contests and the
achievements of contesters; and
WHEREAS, over the past six months members have come to understand
and appreciate the reasons for relocating of contest line scores and the
advantages of the expanded capabilities available on the web site;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that as of the January 2003 issue of
QST, contest line scores shall be relocated from QST to the ARRL Web.
>From dave at egh.com Wed Jul 24 20:28:17 2002
From: dave@egh.com (David Clemons)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL 10 Meter Contest Results
Message-ID: <00A116D0.B9C72202.27@egh.com>
The ARRL web site now shows the results of the 2001
ARRL 10 Meter Contest.
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Wed Jul 24 20:58:15 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Additional Serial ports
In-Reply-To: <001b01c23350$8fa5c040$a344fea9@com>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFMEJCDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
I've used the SIIG PCI serial expansion board on a Windows 98SE computer.
Works like a charm. I believe it installed as COM5 and COM6 if I recall
correctly.
73,
Gary W2CS
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ron Bolton
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 4:28 PM
> To: CQ Contest Reflector; Dx4win@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Additional Serial ports
>
>
> Anyone tried using the SIIG PCI Expander boards? These seem to
> be much more reasonably priced than the Byterunners and come with
> a 5 year warranty. (SIIG 2S PCI is $54, and 2 additional ports
> can be added to board for $24, all 4 use same INT.) I looked at
> the USB to Serial converters and while they may be easy to use,
> are much more expensive (cheapest 4 port was $125). Any other
> suggestions?
>
>
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>
>From gm at netsync.net Wed Jul 24 21:56:26 2002
From: gm@netsync.net (Gerry Maira)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
> Message: 7
> From: "Lee Hiers, AA4GA" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
> To: Cq-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
>
> I would say that it gives reason for concern for
> ARRL's continued sponsorship of contests,
> possibly even their support of contesting as an
> allowable activity on the bands - I would not be
> surprised if they proposed a rules change to the
> FCC which would prohibit contesting - if you
> boil it down to membership numbers, I'm sure the
> majority of members (not active $-spending
> members, just numbers of members) would support
> total elimination of contesting. It's only a
> matter of time.
Bingo! Someone is finally catching on. The ARRL won't so far as trying to
prohibit
contests, but they are distancing themselves from them. The exception is the
non-contest
field day exercise which is still good PR for the league.
I just started out in contesting about 2 years ago. One thing that helped spark
my
interest was seeing ARRL contest results in QST. Seeing the results there also
gave me
added incentive to try for more points. It won't be quite the same without
results
published in QST. NO ONE is going to take the trouble to look at scores on the
ARRL
website except for participants. In QST it's right there in front of you and
easy to
look at. The same is true for section news.
I ended my ARRL membership as of 1/02 for reasons that had little to do with
contesting.
I was amazed at the number of form letters they sent me trying to get me to
renew. They
basically said I wasn't doing my part to help protect Amateur Radio by not
supporting
them. The fact is, I need protection from the ARRL! I'm a CW operator, a DXer
and a
contester. Those are my main activities in the hobby, and each of them requires
some
degree of skill. Each has also suffered to some degree by the actions of the
ARRL -
especially CW. They ARRL doesn't want to turn off any of the new instant
gratification
folks by requiring or promoting anything that requires skill. Articles on
things like
how to properly type a URL in order to access a website, or specials like the
"ugly
shack contest" are what they think are appropriate now. They say we need more
licensed
hams and ARRL members in order to fend of the evil threats out there. Bunk! The
threats
are minimal and I would think almost non-existant on HF. We don't need more
than a few
hundred thousand licensed hams in this country to keep the hobby going. Dumbing
down has
only lowered the integrity of the hobby, and that's the thing the ARRL should
be most
concerned about. They sold us out!
Gerry KA2MGE
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Wed Jul 24 22:02:48 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c23377$3d0110c0$03010a0a@office1>
Moving the line scores to the web implies that we will be able to get the
results faster -- if for not other reason, just from the mere fact that we
won't have to wait 2 months or more for the final copy to be sent to the
printer, printed in the magazine, and left to the tender mercies (if any) of
the US Postal (alleged) Service.
Isn't this a good thing? (Besides, only the line scores won't be in, right?
The contest write-ups and soapboxes will be -- though I suspect the on-line
soapboxes will be greater.)
Look, the decision has been made, and I suspect that it's now irrevocable.
At best the combinded kvetching from groups like this one might put it off
for another 6 months -- maybe. But it's coming. So rather than kvetch
about mass conspiracies and make unfounded financial allegations, why don't
we put our collective heads together and figure out how to best exploit this
new tool to the benefit of the contesting community?
In fact, let's go one step further: Why not suggest to the ARRL that anyone
submitting an electronic log have the option to request that the final
results be emailed to them, line scores and all? It could be done as an
additional Cabrillo line in the header section, for one.
...oh, and about those comments the other day regarding the potential young
amateur buying QST off the newstand: Newstand? What newstand? At least
here in the Pittsburgh area, QST long since disappeared from the magazine
racks. Even Borders, which carries CQ & 73 and 10 million other
hobby-related magazines, doesn't carry QST (I asked at both of my local
ones -- they say they never heard of it!). I think we have a bigger problem
of getting QST into someone's hands to solve long before we start worrying
about what's in the magazine itself! (I shudder to think that someone's
first exposure to Amateur Radio these days might be one of Wayne's rants.
But I digress)
73, ron wn3vaw
"Some people say the beer glass is half empty.
Some people say it's half full.
To me, Woody, it says 'get me another drink!'"
-- Norm, Cheers (attributed)
From: "K0LUZ" <k0luz@topsusa.com>
To: "Mike Gilmer, N2MG" <n2mg@eham.net>,
"CQ-Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In a sense, this is one positive for promoting more contest activity
because now the non-member who participates in an ARRL contest can see his
score published on the Internet. As a non-member and not a recipient of
QST, I assume it was difficult to find out how they had scored compared to
others in the same category. This is what is called observing "the glass is
half full."
73
Red
K0LUZ
-----Original Message-----
Tom Osborne wrote:
>
> Pete Smith wrote:
>
> > Starting next January, "Section News" and contest line score
> > results will appear on the ARRL Web site >rather than in QST.
>
> Probably in the "members only" section, I suppose.
ARRL has been publishing contest results in Members Only for the first
month or so, but then moving them to the open section. So non-members
have been able to get a free ride (if one were willing to wait a
month) - no need to join or to even buy QST to see the results. I
suspect this procedure will continue.
Mike N2MG
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>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Wed Jul 24 22:06:55 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <000f01c23377$3d0110c0$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <MCBBJAHBAIHDJKDNKBBIOEKFCAAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> ...oh, and about those comments the other day regarding the
> potential young
> amateur buying QST off the newstand: Newstand? What newstand? At least
> here in the Pittsburgh area, QST long since disappeared from the magazine
> racks. Even Borders, which carries CQ & 73 and 10 million other
> hobby-related magazines, doesn't carry QST (I asked at both of my local
> ones -- they say they never heard of it!).
My local Barnes & Noble (Clear Lake-Houston, TX) carries QST, CQ and 73,
along with a a couple of SWL/Scanner type mags, electronic hobbyist mags and
even a Britsh electronics hobbyist magazine.
I have also seen QST in a couple of airport magazine/book shops.
73,
dale, kg5u
>From k2wr at njdxa.org Wed Jul 24 23:10:12 2002
From: k2wr@njdxa.org (Rich K2WR)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL BoD et al
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <002d01c23380$6b92abc0$7b9bfea9@5j08601>
To my esteemed fellow participants on the Contest Reflector:
(I write this from the standpoint of one with considerable experience in
serving on boards of membership organizations, and not necessarily involving
amateur radio...)
It's a bad idea to expect that people you elect to boards will follow your
agenda, or even their own. In fact, it's a bad idea if they run with any
agenda at all. The truth is, in almost any organization, 10 minutes after
the person you support (or his opponent) gets elected, he is going to know
far, far more about the organization than you do. Now, you can and should
express your opinion, but you should have elected the person because you
trust him to exercise his JUDGEMENT independently, and you should vote for
someone else when and if you lose that trust. (However, with the exception
of financial chicanery or irresponsibility, there is rarely any one issue
that reasonably should make or break that trust.)
In this particular case, I disagree with the Board's action as much as
anyone on this reflector. I am going to convey my opinion to my director
(N2FF), who was elected and re-elected (twice) with my vocal and significant
support, but I fully realize and accept that after 6 years on the Board he
knows far, far, far more about the workings of ARRL than I do, and, even
though I think he and my other friends on the Board reached the wrong
conclusion about contest line scores (and Section News, for that matter), I
elected him to use his own judgement, which I think he's done very
effectively for six years, and I'm going to support him just as intensively
next year for re-election as I did the last 2 times.
Why not make our next project one to change the "Top Ten" boxes to "Top
Fifty" boxes, now that all this space has been released due to removing the
line scores?
Rich K2WR
>From K9GY at K9GY.com Thu Jul 25 03:25:14 2002
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Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
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>From ve4xt at mb.sympatico.ca Wed Jul 24 22:39:46 2002
From: ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
Here's the thing: the people who won't bother to look at the line scores on
the Web are the same people right now who don't bother to look at the line
scores in QST.
Line scores have limited appeal -- primarily to us and us alone. That's not
going to change.
But what can change is the amount that non-contesters read the results. They
won't read line scores but they will read interesting stories, with good
anecdotes, good prose and good photography. There is no room for that now
since the majority of pages are devoted to line scores.
As the author of the 2001 SS Phone writeup, my behind the scenes work with
such ARRL luminaries as K1RO, NT1N, N1BKE and N1ND suggests a strong
commitment to making line score-free results work for everybody. I support
the efforts to move line score coverage to the Web (where it can be MUCH
more valuable to the people who actually care about them) and increase
non-line score copy in QST, where it can be much more interesting to the
people who don't care about line scores.
Anything that will make it MORE LIKELY that a non-contester will read the
results writeup is a good thing, no? Line scores don't do that.
It only makes sense to deliver the material people want in the form most
suited to them: the interactive sort functions applied to the SS line scores
on the Web site are nothing short of astounding. Want to compare 80 meter
rates among club scores in B? No problem. Want to find out who had the
highest non-sweep score? Simple. They really, really, really did an
absolutely fantastic job developing the contesting space on the ARRL site.
It is an excellent resource that we should all be happy to embrace.
The most powerful people at the League now are active contesters. Don't
forget that.
73, Kelly
VE4XT
"Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean everybody isn't out to get me."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Maira" <gm@netsync.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 7:56 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
> > Message: 7
> > From: "Lee Hiers, AA4GA" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
> > To: Cq-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
> >
>
> > I would say that it gives reason for concern for
> > ARRL's continued sponsorship of contests,
> > possibly even their support of contesting as an
> > allowable activity on the bands - I would not be
> > surprised if they proposed a rules change to the
> > FCC which would prohibit contesting - if you
> > boil it down to membership numbers, I'm sure the
> > majority of members (not active $-spending
> > members, just numbers of members) would support
> > total elimination of contesting. It's only a
> > matter of time.
>
> Bingo! Someone is finally catching on. The ARRL won't so far as trying to
prohibit
> contests, but they are distancing themselves from them. The exception is
the non-contest
> field day exercise which is still good PR for the league.
>
> I just started out in contesting about 2 years ago. One thing that helped
spark my
> interest was seeing ARRL contest results in QST. Seeing the results there
also gave me
> added incentive to try for more points. It won't be quite the same without
results
> published in QST. NO ONE is going to take the trouble to look at scores on
the ARRL
> website except for participants. In QST it's right there in front of you
and easy to
> look at. The same is true for section news.
>
> I ended my ARRL membership as of 1/02 for reasons that had little to do
with contesting.
> I was amazed at the number of form letters they sent me trying to get me
to renew. They
> basically said I wasn't doing my part to help protect Amateur Radio by not
supporting
> them. The fact is, I need protection from the ARRL! I'm a CW operator, a
DXer and a
> contester. Those are my main activities in the hobby, and each of them
requires some
> degree of skill. Each has also suffered to some degree by the actions of
the ARRL -
> especially CW. They ARRL doesn't want to turn off any of the new instant
gratification
> folks by requiring or promoting anything that requires skill. Articles on
things like
> how to properly type a URL in order to access a website, or specials like
the "ugly
> shack contest" are what they think are appropriate now. They say we need
more licensed
> hams and ARRL members in order to fend of the evil threats out there.
Bunk! The threats
> are minimal and I would think almost non-existant on HF. We don't need
more than a few
> hundred thousand licensed hams in this country to keep the hobby going.
Dumbing down has
> only lowered the integrity of the hobby, and that's the thing the ARRL
should be most
> concerned about. They sold us out!
>
> Gerry KA2MGE
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>From wd4ahz at gte.net Thu Jul 25 02:23:09 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net> <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
Message-ID: <3D3F8B3D.C5B32B8E@gte.net>
Kelly Taylor wrote:
> There is no room for that now since the majority of pages are devoted
> to line scores.
The idea of cutting line scores is to reduce the number of pages in QST
(I've heard 16 pages will be cut) - not free them up for something
else. Cutting line scores and section news reduces the number of pages
in QST and makes publishing costs less ... it doesn't mean more content
will take their place.
Ron
>From kr1g at hotmail.com Thu Jul 25 13:01:23 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <F63nk27XcYVJ4w3kXg50001f5bc@hotmail.com>
ABout 5 years ago while on my honeymoon in ZL, I had decided to become
active again after 10+ years off the air.
Found a copy of QST and CQ in a newsstand in Auckland - not even sure I
could do that in Boston.
73
Ted KT1V
>From: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
>To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
>
>
> > ...oh, and about those comments the other day regarding the
> > potential young
> > amateur buying QST off the newstand: Newstand? What newstand? At
>least
> > here in the Pittsburgh area, QST long since disappeared from the
>magazine
> > racks. Even Borders, which carries CQ & 73 and 10 million other
> > hobby-related magazines, doesn't carry QST (I asked at both of my local
> > ones -- they say they never heard of it!).
>
>My local Barnes & Noble (Clear Lake-Houston, TX) carries QST, CQ and 73,
>along with a a couple of SWL/Scanner type mags, electronic hobbyist mags
>and
>even a Britsh electronics hobbyist magazine.
>
>I have also seen QST in a couple of airport magazine/book shops.
>
>73,
>dale, kg5u
>
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Thu Jul 25 09:59:51 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020725085529.024b3a00@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 09:39 PM 7/24/02 -0500, Kelly Taylor wrote:
>As the author of the 2001 SS Phone writeup, my behind the scenes work with
>such ARRL luminaries as K1RO, NT1N, N1BKE and N1ND suggests a strong
>commitment to making line score-free results work for everybody. I support
>the efforts to move line score coverage to the Web (where it can be MUCH
>more valuable to the people who actually care about them) and increase
>non-line score copy in QST, where it can be much more interesting to the
>people who don't care about line scores.
Kelly, this is exactly the sort of reassurance we are looking for, and that
was strikingly absent from reports on the Board meeting. If there had been
direction to ARRL staff to "increase non-line score copy in QST," as there
was in the case of the Section News, then I would have zero complaint about
the outcome. Perhaps one of those ARRL luminaries would offer a statement
of ARRL's intentions in this respect, and put the issue to rest (except, of
course, for the requirement that we get busy writing).
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From n0ss at earthlink.net Thu Jul 25 09:42:03 2002
From: n0ss@earthlink.net (Tom Hammond =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=D8SS?=)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <3D3F8B3D.C5B32B8E@gte.net>
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
<000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020725082559.00b0b230@mail.earthlink.net>
Ron, et al:
Kelly Taylor wrote:
>I support the efforts to move line score coverage to the Web
>(where it can be MUCH more valuable to the people who actually
>care about them) and increase non-line score copy in QST, where
>it can be much more interesting to the people who don't care
>about line scores.
Ron Wetjen wrote:
>The idea of cutting line scores is to reduce the number of pages
>in QST (I've heard 16 pages will be cut) - not free them up for
>something else. Cutting line scores and section news reduces the
>number of pages in QST and makes publishing costs less ... it
>doesn't mean more content will take their place.
If, say, 16 pages were 'saved' by moving the line scores, this doesn't
necessarily imply that ALL of those pages would be lost.
Assuming that Kelly's statement, above, is correct, even if a FEW of those
16 pages were used to increase non-line score copy for contests, this would
be a good thing. And the ARRL would still be saving a BUNCH of paper in the
process.
I have no reason to doubt Kelly's statement, which implies that SOME of the
lost pages may actually be used in further SUPPORT of contesting, by way of
enhanced write-ups.
While I will miss not seeing my call... generally way down toward the
bottom of most listings... in QST, I certainly WOULD like to be able to
access the results more quickly via the Web, and to have them available to
all operators, not just ARRL members.
Tom Hammond N0SS
>From k1my at msn.com Thu Jul 25 08:20:00 2002
From: k1my@msn.com (Bruce Makas)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020725085529.024b3a00@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <005701c233e6$5dab5780$0101a8c0@pavilion>
Hi Pete, Nice thoughts but don't hold your breath. Non line score copy of
contests will never increase. Take that to the bank.
73, Bruce K1MY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
> At 09:39 PM 7/24/02 -0500, Kelly Taylor wrote:
> >As the author of the 2001 SS Phone writeup, my behind the scenes work
with
> >such ARRL luminaries as K1RO, NT1N, N1BKE and N1ND suggests a strong
> >commitment to making line score-free results work for everybody. I
support
> >the efforts to move line score coverage to the Web (where it can be MUCH
> >more valuable to the people who actually care about them) and increase
> >non-line score copy in QST, where it can be much more interesting to the
> >people who don't care about line scores.
>
> Kelly, this is exactly the sort of reassurance we are looking for, and
that
> was strikingly absent from reports on the Board meeting. If there had
been
> direction to ARRL staff to "increase non-line score copy in QST," as there
> was in the case of the Section News, then I would have zero complaint
about
> the outcome. Perhaps one of those ARRL luminaries would offer a statement
> of ARRL's intentions in this respect, and put the issue to rest (except,
of
> course, for the requirement that we get busy writing).
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 09:44:19 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20020725085529.024b3a00@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
References: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
<200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020725074143.00a7c830@pop3.eskimo.com>
I'm reading a lot about whether the line scores should be in QST or not.
I am not reading anything about anybody actually going up and trying out
the electronic versions.
So, I went up and reviewed the newly released ARRL 10M results.
Following that review, I was going to write a whole bunch about the entire
week's worth of long discussions regarding contest haters, economics,
following the money, conspiracies, politics, the death of the
hobby, and even.... <sigh> tree hugging.
However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
going on-line in three short words.
I like 'em.
rock on!
dink, n7wa
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 25 11:50:52 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
Message-ID: <00d001c233f3$118fc720$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>Kelly Taylor wrote:
>
>> There is no room for that now since the majority of pages are devoted
>> to line scores.
>
>The idea of cutting line scores is to reduce the number of pages in QST
>(I've heard 16 pages will be cut) - not free them up for something
>else. Cutting line scores and section news reduces the number of pages
>in QST and makes publishing costs less ... it doesn't mean more content
>will take their place.
>
> Ron
No so Ron, <sigh>
Yes ... that's what we were told back earlier in the year ... that this was
all due to financial concerns ... and you know from a business viewpoint
(MBA/corporate/etc.) if my national organization says there is a revenue
problem, and to survive they need to take some cost containment steps
to continue to exist, and that some of my perks as a member may have
to go away. Hey, I understand, do it ... but that's not what has happened.
Now go re-read the official release ... NO MENTION of reducing the number
of pages, NO MENTION of any form of cost containment. There IS mention of:
"The space freed up by relocating "Section News" will allow more in-depth
coverage of general news, public service activities and "how-to" articles
aimed at bringing more amateurs into the emergency preparedness fold."
Wait a second ... where's the we must contain costs cry from earlier this
year?
And as we gloat about how much greater the web-based options will be,
who's picking up the tab for all of that? Use of volunteers will help, but
there's going to be some incremental costs to support this also. There is
no free ride folks ... there are NEW costs to provide web-based services.
Also in the carefully worded release ... why no mention of anything stating:
"The space freed up by relocating "Contest ....." will allow more in-depth
coverage of contest news, contesting activities, and "how-to" articles aimed
at bringing more amateurs into the enjoyable sport of radio contesting".
My opinion is that omission is not by accident, as press releases are
carefully constructed to communicate exact and specific messages. NO
one from the ARRL has officially said anything about increased contest
exposure to replace the line-scores. Such a statement, if valid could have
been included in the press release. It was not. So who's fooling who here?
There's a wide variance between what we were told, and what has
happened. And that's disgusting behavior from our national organization.
73 Billy AA4NU
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 25 10:23:43 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <20020725162343.91310.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com>
The ARRL can't prohibit anyone from having a contest on any band.
If the ARRL doesn't like contests they I would say to them why don't
you just discontinue your contest program. Even more $$$ saved for
a silly and stupid activity... Hey ???
The ARRL never seems to really care about the views of the contest
community anyway (which cq-contest is an important forum to express
those views and the CAC) when making rules changes or any deciding
other issues that come before the BoD.
Don't take these comments as me being anti-ARRL... because I am
not. The ARRL is more than just a subscription to QST. I am VERY
grateful for all the work they do over the years fighting for our
frequencies and our right to just put up antennas. I am a life
member
of the ARRL and proud of it.
It would be very nice if those directors , who we know who are
contesters and probably subscribe to this reflector, would come out
of hiding and let us know why they voted the way they did ????
73's Jeff
--- Gerry Maira <gm@netsync.net> wrote:
> > Message: 7
> > From: "Lee Hiers, AA4GA" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
> > To: Cq-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
> >
>
> > I would say that it gives reason for concern for
> > ARRL's continued sponsorship of contests,
> > possibly even their support of contesting as an
> > allowable activity on the bands - I would not be
> > surprised if they proposed a rules change to the
> > FCC which would prohibit contesting - if you
> > boil it down to membership numbers, I'm sure the
> > majority of members (not active $-spending
> > members, just numbers of members) would support
> > total elimination of contesting. It's only a
> > matter of time.
>
> Bingo! Someone is finally catching on. The ARRL won't so far as
> trying to prohibit
> contests, but they are distancing themselves from them. The exception
> is the non-contest
> field day exercise which is still good PR for the league.
>
> I just started out in contesting about 2 years ago. One thing that
> helped spark my
> interest was seeing ARRL contest results in QST. Seeing the results
> there also gave me
> added incentive to try for more points. It won't be quite the same
> without results
> published in QST. NO ONE is going to take the trouble to look at
> scores on the ARRL
> website except for participants. In QST it's right there in front of
> you and easy to
> look at. The same is true for section news.
>
> I ended my ARRL membership as of 1/02 for reasons that had little to
> do with contesting.
> I was amazed at the number of form letters they sent me trying to get
> me to renew. They
> basically said I wasn't doing my part to help protect Amateur Radio
> by not supporting
> them. The fact is, I need protection from the ARRL! I'm a CW
> operator, a DXer and a
> contester. Those are my main activities in the hobby, and each of
> them requires some
> degree of skill. Each has also suffered to some degree by the actions
> of the ARRL -
> especially CW. They ARRL doesn't want to turn off any of the new
> instant gratification
> folks by requiring or promoting anything that requires skill.
> Articles on things like
> how to properly type a URL in order to access a website, or specials
> like the "ugly
> shack contest" are what they think are appropriate now. They say we
> need more licensed
> hams and ARRL members in order to fend of the evil threats out there.
> Bunk! The threats
> are minimal and I would think almost non-existant on HF. We don't
> need more than a few
> hundred thousand licensed hams in this country to keep the hobby
> going. Dumbing down has
> only lowered the integrity of the hobby, and that's the thing the
> ARRL should be most
> concerned about. They sold us out!
>
> Gerry KA2MGE
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>From k2kir at telenet.net Thu Jul 25 13:38:00 2002
From: k2kir@telenet.net (Bud Hippisley, K2KIR)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20020725112738.00abaac0@telenet.net>
At 10:39 PM 2002-07-24 , VE4XT wrote:
>Line scores have limited appeal -- primarily to us and us alone.
I don't agree -- when I was a new ham, I used to read the line scores for my
section to see if I knew any of the contesters who participated -- even though
I hadn't yet decided that I wanted to be a contester.
> Anything that will make it MORE LIKELY that a non-contester will read the
>results writeup is a good thing, no?
Not automatically, and especially not if it's a zero-sum game and something
else has to suffer in return. There's a whole string of unproven presumptions
inherent in trading line scores for more verbiage -- including the one that
implies today's new generation will *read* about anything rather than just
*doing*.
But my principal objection to this whole thing is from the "historical records"
point of view. If I want to recall what my friends and I did in the 1933
Sweepstakes I can go to my collection of QSTs and know for certain that I will
find it. There is no such guarantee attached to whatever the League is
proposing to replace the QST coverage with -- as those of us who have suffered
through a similar but much earlier decision to remove coverage of the ARRL
National Traffic System from QST have learned the hard way. The promised
alternatives -- listing of NTS "line scores" (statistics) in a separate
specialty field organization newsletter and equivalent editorial space in QST
for articles about NTS and traffic handling have not survived in any meaningful
way.
Coincidentally, I recently read a similar wail from long-time columnists in a
popular computer magazine to the effect that their archived columns on the
publisher's web site had been deleted -- perhaps accidentally but, in any
event, deleted nevertheless. Their philosophical ruminations about the
limitations of web-based archiving can be found on pages 156-157 of the April
2002 issue of "Computer Shopper" magazine.
Surely the day will come when alternative publishing methods will be as
permanent, as ubiquitous, and as easy to read in bed or on the subway as
hard-copy magazines have been. But "we (society and technology) ain't there
yet", and especially not the ARRL, which has convinced me by its recent history
that its "commitments" aren't always as permanent as its hard-copy publications.
Bud, K2KIR
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:07:13 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251907.g6PJ7DA25591@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
2002 Georgia QP - Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
In State Rover LP
N4PN 676 75 400 57 20 20,876
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
In State Single Op LP
KN4Y 591 0 42 0 12 49,644 FCG
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NJ8J 43 7 21 7 3 2,604 SECC
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
In State Single Op QRP
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 1.6 15 SECC
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
Out of State Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
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Out of State Single Op LP
N4GG 78 10 64 10 9 12,284 PVRC
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
K8MR 52 4 39 4 4,644 MRRC
W4SAA 27 0 23 0 2 1,242 FCG
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
Out of State Single Op QRP
NJ4X/7 32 0 31 0 3 1,984
K8GU(@K8GU/P) 8 0 8 0 < 1 128 MRRC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:07:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251907.g6PJ7nY25600@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
KB8U 227 99 17 30,888
K3DNE 167 69 10 15,732 PVRC
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
K8CC 130 72 6.5 12,240 MRRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE3KZ 126 66 9,570 Ontario VHF Associat
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
K0UK 2 2 27hrs 6 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/2 QRP
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 LP
K8KFJ 26 19 6 494
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 QRP
N3AWS 5 4 3 20
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:09:09 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251909.g6PJ99D25609@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
W6YX 446 156 10 69,576 NCCC
W1GZ 252 112 10 28,224
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
VA3DX 388 147 11 58,200
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 10 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
9A5W(@9A1A) 301 107 9 32,207
WB4EQS 259 124 32,116
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K7ZUM 241 118 7 28,438 WVDXC
N1NB 240 105 8 25,200
K4PX 225 111 10 24,975
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
W4BCG 222 107 9 23,754 TCG
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
W6ZL(BIGWAVE) 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
KD8FS 195 97 5 18,915
LP7H(LU9HS) 227 76 10 17,252
K3FH 176 98 8 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 6 14,964
IT9BLB 186 78 10 14,508 TIKIRRIKI CONTEST CL
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
K5AM 169 78 4 13,182
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
K1XX 161 78 9 12,090
IK0HBN 150 57 9 8,550
WB0O 110 71 2 7,810
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 2 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K9SZ 48 33 1,584
K6OWL 46 34 2 1,564
XE2AC 42 27 3 1,134
F6FJE 24 23 5 552
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
W1GZ N1MGO,WN1E
W6YX K6ENT,N6DE,W6ZZZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:22:43 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251922.g6PJMhT25625@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
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Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Call
CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
HQ station (M/M)
S50HQ 4493 4185 416 24 11,710,400
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 23 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
W7GG 362 300 44 9 265,742
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 24 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 19 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 21 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
K9TM 901 0 109 13 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO CW LP
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
W4BCG 75 0 40 6 9,400 TCG
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
K6XX 1264 247 179 23 1,030,682 NCCC
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 19 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
K1HT 399 123 139 9 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 5 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 13 10,701 SECC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
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USA SO SSB LP
NQ4U 0 235 49 8 81,498 TCG
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
DX M/S HP
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
DX SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 0 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
PJ2E(N1UR) 2211 0 198 24 2,067,034 YCCC
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 20 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 0 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
DH7KU 550 0 66 16 134,640 DK0UN University Rad
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
DX SO CW LP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
OH/W6YA 770 0 159 354,570
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
DX SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
DX SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RK4FF 1594 846 325 24 2,637,700
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 23 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
UY5ZZ 991 304 123 956,032
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 15 463,606 HSDXA
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 8 402,327
XE2AC 225 598 90 8 257,760
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
DX SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
VE4YU 360 232 61 19 270,750
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 8 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
SV1DNW 132 58 84 12 43,008
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
DX SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
DF1DX 141 114 92 13 71,300 RR DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
DX SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 23 2,342,130 Other (specify when
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
RN4LP 1505 251 24 1,175,433
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
FM5GU 0 1492 99 10 609,246
S57UN(@S52ZW) 430 5 117,432 SCC
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
DX SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
SV1DKL 0 683 183 18 416,325
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
W7GG K7ZUM,KC7TWZ,W7GG
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:23:28 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251923.g6PJNSq25634@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in theis summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
VE5RI 527 1214 41 40 24 818,424
KA6BIM 251 440 35 33 24 373,048 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
VE7AVV 0 809 0 40 15 198,960 BCDX Club
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
K4BAI 181 22 0 0 27,632 SECC
K1GU 118 0 28 0 4 24,920 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE5SF 416 562 39 39 18.1 579,696
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE7UQ 62 346 17 28 153,540
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VA6RA 1 180 1 24 39,050
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VA3WN 142 50 13 10 6 26,542
W0ETT 100 2 25 1 7 21,632 Grand Mesa
VE3ANX 116 2 23 1 2.5 18,240
W1TO 67 12 15 5 12,680 YCCC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
N4WSM 0 29 0 13 4,550 TCG
W4NZ 32 3 9 2 3,300
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
VE3XAX 334 114 37 24 208,864 U-VE Contest Club
WB6BWZ 26 13 9 4 8.3 4,862 SECC
AA0XJ 19 5 7 3 5 2,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
VE3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 56 41 6 9 12 9,870
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
KA6BIM KA6BIM,NT6K
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From k1ir at designet.com Thu Jul 25 17:10:44 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL July 2002 BoD Meeting Minutes Posted
Message-ID: <57lkpsfvcecxz2w.250720021610@designet-jsi>
The minutes of the BoD meeting are posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/announce/board-0207/
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From wae at dl6rai.muc.de Thu Jul 25 21:59:09 2002
From: wae@dl6rai.muc.de (Bernhard Buettner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WAEDC-CW coming up!
Message-ID: <200207251859.g6PIxAZ01666@dl6rai.muc.de>
Hi Contesters!
The WAE DX Contest (CW portion) is coming up! Only two weekends
ahead, on August 10/11 the HF bands again will be full of "QTC?" -
the typical sign of the WAE DX Contest.
The idea of the QTC was born a long time ago - in 1936, the D.A.S.D.
(Deutscher Amateur Sende Dienst - the predecessor of the DARC) came up
with its first international Contest - the DJDC, which went over
five weekends. Non-German stations back then reported their QSOs back
to German stations. This was done in order to get complete coverage
of all QSOs done during the contest period - even if people would not
send in their logs. If you are interested in more information look
at the results archive at http://www.waedc.de - there you will find
results going back until 1936!
Today, the WAEDC only lasts a single weekend, 48 hours - and it's
coming up in a fortnight from now. Sending in logs today is so
easy with E-Mail and Log robots.
So - are you ready?
Check out the rules and latest changes at http://www.waedc.de! There
you can also download MP3 files of QTC traffic, look into the results
from the 2001 Contest, read about announced Contest operations etc.
Software authors have modified their logging programs to reflect the
latest changes in the WAE DX Contest. Find details on the Web site too.
If you have any questions or comments pertaining to the WAE DX Contest,
drop me a note at dl6rai@darc.de.
73 Ben, DL6RAI
--
[] Bernhard (Ben) Buettner, DL6RAI - WAE-DX-Contest Manager
[] E-Mail: dl6rai@darc.de Phone: +49-89-943663 Fax: +49-89-943191
>From thompson at mindspring.com Thu Jul 25 18:09:12 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Line scores
Message-ID: <009d01c23427$9b643600$781145cf@default>
A local ARRL official (just back from the Board meeting) thinks the line
scores will go on the open part of the ARRL web. The members only part will
allow you to digest your score (UBN).
No decisons have been made to expand NCJ with more scores. That decision
will be made over the next few months by HQ Management and the Executive
Committee.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From brianmiller at xtra.co.nz Fri Jul 26 11:30:00 2002
From: brianmiller@xtra.co.nz (Brian Miller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2001 OCEANIA DX CONTEST RESULTS
Message-ID: <016401c2342a$e61064a0$042556d2@default>
The full results for the 2001 Oceania DX contest are now available for viewing
on-line at the
Oceania DX Contest web site - go to
http://www.nzart.org.nz/nzart/update/contests/Oceania.
CONGRATULATIONS to all of the 2001 winners and thank you to everyone who
participated.
The Contest Committee was very pleased to see a 57% increase in the total
number of logs received
for the 2001 contest, including a 60% increase in logs from Oceania. The
increase indicates that our
strategy to rejuvenate the contest is working. We are looking for even greater
participation in
2002 - especially from Oceania stations.
I would especially like to acknowledge the Committee who managed the promotion,
log checking and
distribution of the results for the 2001 contest - the Committee members are
VK5GN, VK3TZ, VK4UC,
VK2FHN, VK2AYD, VK1JDX, ZL3GA, ZL2BSJ and ZL1AZE.
The 2002 Oceania DX contest is to be held on the following dates and times
PHONE Contest: 0800 UTC Saturday 5 October to 0800 UTC Sunday 6 October
CW Contest: 0800 UTC Saturday 12 October to 0800 UTC Sunday 13 October
The 2002 rules are available from
http://www.nzart.org.nz/nzart/update/contests/Oceania.
This will be the 66th Oceania DX Contest - lets make it the biggest and best
yet. Note that this
contest is a great opportunity to warm up for CQ WW! Please spread the word
about the contest and
encourage others to "have a go".
We look forward to working you in the 2002 contest.
73
Brian Miller
ZL1AZE
Chair Oceania DX Contest Committee
PS. You can get the latest gossip on the contest by joining the discussion
group at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OceaniaDXTest. Join the group by sending an email
to
OceaniaDXTest-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.
>From k8cc at comcast.net Thu Jul 25 20:08:12 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20020725112738.00abaac0@telenet.net>
References: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
<200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com> <3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020725184432.00998ca0@mail.comcast.net>
Back in the early seventies when I was a new ham (licensed 2-3 years) and
starting to get very enthused about contesting, the QST contest writeups
were a HUGE factor in increasing my knowledge. I was fortunate that the
library at community college I attended for the first few years after high
school had a rather complete collection of QSTs for the prior fifteen years
or so. They were stored in a back room and the librarian would unlock the
room and let me sit back there for hours digesting contest results.
What was it that attracted my interest - line scores? Heck no! First, it
was pictures of contest stations; no, not stations with a DX40 and an
NC300, but pictures of competitive stations like W3GRF, K1LPL/3, XE1IIJ,
W7RM, etc. It was always interesting to see what these guys were running,
which gave me something to aspire to. Second were the tables showing QSOs
and mults (varied depending on the contest); again, showing me what was
possible. And finally, contest writeups which explained the contest - who
beat who, and why; significant scores, antecdotes, etc.; much more than
simple recitations of first, second and third places in each category.
Its been a number of years since I've read a contest writeup in a magazine
which I truly enjoyed. The CQWW writeups, IMHO, are better than the ARRL
ones because K3EST is deeply involved in the contest and understands what
went on. I commend the ARRL recent writeups (particularly the on-line
versions) by guest authors which have been a great improvement and will
continue to get better as these writers gain experience (that is, assuming
they don't burn out and quit). Still there is room for improvement - IMHO
there needs to be more pictures and more comparison breakdowns. For
example, the January VHF SS writeup lacked the traditional boxes with top
QSOs and grids per band. I'm not sure whether scoring info by band was
available in the results - even if so, sorting through hundreds of scores
is a lot of work for the reader when the author might be able to run a
database query and format it into a table with little work.
I believe that an attractive, interesting article about the results of a
contest has a place in QST. I'm not so much against including line scores
as I am a proponent of better use of space. I'd prefer to *read about the
contest* and opposed to going glassy-eyed over columns of data.
At the same time, we contesters need to get off our butts. We need to
submit more photos, stories, etc. about our contest efforts as material for
the writeup authors to use. And those of us who are capable of writing
need to step up and volunteer to do the writeups. N1ND's time is put to
much better use making the contest results happen.
FWIW.
73,
Dave/K8CC
>From trey at kkn.net Thu Jul 25 19:10:31 2002
From: trey@kkn.net (Trey Garlough)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
Message-ID: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Have you ever noticed that contest results take so long to appear in
magazines that sometimes you can't remember whether or not you
actually operated the particular contest you are reading about at the
moment?
Many years ago I had a dream that we would be able to operate contests
and then see the final results immediately after the events were over.
This will not be achievable if we rely on QST as a delivery mechanism.
As you may be aware I have been doing some volunteer work for the
League over the past few years to automate the log collecting and
results tabulating process for ARRL contests. Based on the current
state of the art, here are the top three delay factors that keep us
from publishing the results for the Sweepstakes in a timely fashion:
1) 45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
2) 30 day log submission deadline
3) contest writeup and magazine article layout
If we eliminate #1 by publishing on the web and cut #2 from 30 to 15
days, then I believe we can *tranquilly* release the complete final
results of Sweepstakes within 30 days of the contest. In fact, last
year Tree N6TR advanced the log processing tools for Sweepstakes to
the point that we are now capable of producing the complete set of
line scores and top ten boxes and so forth within 30 minutes of the
log deadline. Why wait until June to read the magazine when you can
see the results on the web in December?
Toward this end in November 2001 I introduced a propsal to the folks
at ARRL HQ that the log submission deadline be cut from 30 days to 15
days, effective with the contest season beginning with the 2002
November Sweepstakes. Let me explain how I decided on 15 days as a
nice compromise between 10 minutes and 30 days.
Over the past couple of years I have noticed a trend in how contest
logs are submitted. There is one spike that occurs right after the
contest and another spike the occurs right before the log submission
deadline, and during the intervening weeks the robot becomes very
quiet. I believe the reason for this is that there is really very
little work to be done to your logs anymore -- they are already duped
and scored and everything right at the end of the contest!
Secondly, cutting the log submission deadline from 30 to 15 days gains
us back 15 additional days to get the results published. 15 days is a
lot when you are trying to meet a 30 day (or 15 day!) deadline for
publishing the results.
Thirdly, I like 15 days because it gives everyone two complete
weekends to deal with their logs (as if there is really anything that
needs to be done with them). This gives the guy who bolts off on a
business trip on the Monday morning after the contest two weekends to
do something.
Fourthly: submitting your log on time is part of the contest!
Additional data: over 90% of electronic SS logs were submitted in
Cabrillo format last year. The number of paper logs received is
declining every year, and at this point all of them can be descibed
more as "participant" class logs rather than "competitor" class logs.
The beauty of the web results is that these logs can be added to the
list as they dribble in if they are delayed by an anthrax scare or
whatever.
Further data point: of the 1800 WPX SSB logs received thus far by
N8BJQ, 1500 are in Cabrillo format. Please note that unlike the ARRL,
CQ does not *require* electronic logs to be submitted in Cabrillo
format. However, this is not stopping people from submitting Cabrillo
logs anyways.
OK, so there you have the details of my proposal. The purpose of this
message is to solicit feedback from the contest community about how a
15 day log submission deadline would affect *you*. Please feel free
to write me privately, or to post back to the cq-contest list itself
and make your opinion heard -- either way is fine with me.
Please limit your comments to how this change would have affected
*you* personally in a contest during a recent year or how it might
affect you in the future. I am not interested in hearing hypothetical
situations such as "but, but, but, what if someone operates the
contest from the USVI, then goes on a 16 day Carnival Cruise
immediately after the contest, and during the cruise an asteroid falls
out of the sky and disables the communications system rendering the
onboard internet cafe inoperable?" I can think of plenty of
hypothetical situations of this nature on my own, as well as plenty
non-hypothetical ones. Earlier this year I spent 42 days in VP8/F,
VP8/Sand and VP8/G, and I can tell you that I could have beaten the 15
day deadline from any of these places had it been necessary. What I
am looking for is *practical* feedback about problems that the 15 day
deadline could possible create in your own personal situation.
Now is your chance to be heard! Let's hear it!
One final comment: I know people are bumming about losing line scores
in QST -- I'm a little sad too. However, I'm really excited about the
opportunity this gives us to make some lemonade out of the situation
and make work towards the ultimate dream of realtime results at the
end of the contest.
You can say what you want about about WRTC, whether it's fair or
not, or whether the stations were equal or not, whether it proves
anything or not, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, but the OH boys
were handing out the trophies the day after the contest, and in my
book this is totally cool!
Thanks for listening, and feel free to repost this message to your
local contest club mailing list.
--Trey, N5KO & HC8N
>From w5vx at hiline.net Thu Jul 25 21:33:11 2002
From: w5vx@hiline.net (Bill Parry)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Line scores
Message-ID: <NFBBICAGALOBNBAMOGIGGEGNCLAA.w5vx@hiline.net>
Now that this issue seems to be settled, I am willing to accept the change
that was voted by our Board of Directors. I would have preferred that the
line score had been left in QST but we have elected our directors to make
these decisions. I believe that the stories and line scores will serve me
well.
Unfortunately, I believe that we are too willing to accept the high-handed
way this issue was handled originally. I have been a life member of the ARRL
for many years and have always supported it. I thought I was a member of an
organization that elected people to make decisions about our hobby in a open
and honest atmosphere. Apparently, the board fears the membership enough to
operate in secrecy, at least on this occasion. If our Board of Directors
operates in this fashion all the time, we have more problems than line
scores!
Bill - W5VX
"All organizations are perfectly aligned for the results they get."
>From swca at swbell.net Thu Jul 25 22:18:04 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
References: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
<200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com> <3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
<4.2.0.58.20020725184432.00998ca0@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <029701c2344a$ad7e8750$0100a8c0@TL01>
K8CC wrote, among other things:
>They were stored in a back room and the librarian would unlock the
>room and let me sit back there for hours digesting contest results.
Thoughtful insights, Dave.
I can't help thinking, however, that all of us, myself included, who talk
about how great it *used* to be to read about contests in QST are living in
the past.
I can't help thinking that kids today are more web-fluent than we were ever
magazine-fluent. All the kids I mentor (about 5 whiz-kids) do things with
their hands on a keyboard and mouse that I can't even follow because it
happens too fast, and every last one of them types faster than any of us
ever did in High School.
And I think their multi-tasking with Windows is probably the reason
computers are getting faster and require so much more RAM.
So therefore, I think "The future is the web, man." Anyway, I am really
glad the contest reporting energy at the ARRL is focused squarely on the
internet.
Mark, N5OT
PS. Tree, if you don't want to get too close to the lighter fluid with the
match, you can do this really cool thing with a match and a can of WD-40.
>From n4gn at n4gn.com Thu Jul 25 23:24:33 2002
From: n4gn@n4gn.com (Tim Totten, N4GN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
In-Reply-To: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0207252207450.10099-100000@shell1>
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Trey Garlough wrote:
> Toward this end in November 2001 I introduced a propsal to the folks
> at ARRL HQ that the log submission deadline be cut from 30 days to 15
> days, effective with the contest season beginning with the 2002
> November Sweepstakes.
<snip>
> OK, so there you have the details of my proposal. The purpose of this
> message is to solicit feedback from the contest community about how a
> 15 day log submission deadline would affect *you*.
I fully support this proposal! In fact, it's hard to think of much else
to add to Trey's well-reasoned post. I'm certainly hard pressed to dream
up even a wild hypothetical scenario where the difference between a 15-day
and 30-day submission window would make any difference to me. And the
goal of greatly reducing the time to report the results is certainly a
worthy one.
So I'm very much in favor of implementing a 15-day submission window,
starting with this year's SS.
73,
Tim Totten, n4gn@n4gn.com
http://www.n4gn.com
>From n2mg at eham.net Thu Jul 25 23:49:01 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <00e101c2344f$00932820$3201a8c0@mikehome>
I was originally against this proposal when I first heard of it as it forces
us to process some of our Fall contest logs during probably the busiest
contest month of the year, November. As it stands today, I needn't worry
about submitting any logs from the big four (CQWW SSB/CW & SS CW/SSB) until
December. I must say that I like that arrangement. Also, a difference in
15 days hardly made a dent in the time-to-market of the scores.
However, since the removal of line scores from QST will reduce the
processing time significantly, 15 days is now a big percentage...so if
asked, I would vote in favor. I'll eventually get used to the idea (even my
wife admits I can learn new tricks from time to time) and maybe someday we
can shorten it up some more. Removing line scores from QST removes one of
the last vestiges of paper from the contesting world. Continued shortening
of the log submission deadlines will remove what is perhaps the very last
one - paper logs.
I see some new Early Bird awards/pins for the first 100 Cabrillo logs in
with more than 300 QSOs...or even better, all logs received within 1 hour
get a 1000 point bonus!
Mike N2MG
N5KO wrote:
> I introduced a propsal to the folks
> at ARRL HQ that the log submission deadline be cut from 30 days to 15
> days, effective with the contest season beginning with the 2002
> November Sweepstakes.
>From wb0wao at hotmail.com Fri Jul 26 06:29:21 2002
From: wb0wao@hotmail.com (Dennis Ponsness)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL, Line Scores, Etc.
Message-ID: <F15120lbhsKd6QR7j1H000001bd@hotmail.com>
One of the down sides is not seeing you call in print in QST, but I can live
with that. I must say that I am impressed with the content on the ARRL
website. Especially the LCR's - showed me where I needed to improve <grin>
! I can live with the change.
I do agree that the time should be cut to 15 days for submissions AND most
definately that the results be "published" very soon after. 6 months is
waaaay to long to wait. The results should be made available within 30 days
of the event.
Now, when will the 'test logs be incorporated into the "LoTW" project? That
is something that I know I would love to see. If the Q is good enough for
the ARRL to accept as a valid 'test Q, it should be good enough to accept
for WAS, DXCC, etc. I am not a "big gun" in the contesting game (100w,
vertical, wire antennas) and I think I have received a total of a couple
dozen QSL requests from 'test Q's. I can only imagine what a major 'test
station gets!
Anyway, I will still participate in the 'tests, have fun, and give out some
Q's. Look for me in the pileups!
73
Dennis - WB0WAO
(Searchin' and Pouncin')
NJQRP #329
FPQRP #-347
SOC #499
FISTS # 9299
GACW #622
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Fri Jul 26 03:51:59 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
Message-ID: <003f01c23470$f16980c0$6a2745cf@default>
I can't speak for any contest but the CQ 160 Contests. Shortening the
deadline makes sense
if and only if the following occurs:
All logs are submitted electronically and are in PROPER cabrillo
format.
For the 2002 CQ 160 Contests I have received 438 SSB logs and 889 CW Logs
plus check logs
plus check logs. Lets look at the facts! 46 Paper logs were received on
SSB and 77 on CW
Most were small logs but several on both modes were significant. There
were 40 old format electronic logs received on SSB and 89 on CW. Of these
all but 5 were e-mailed. Of the rest supposedly cabrillo I find that 1 out
of 5 do not check as cabrillo and have to be converted before
running through the crass check/log check programs. On top of this I
noticed that 18 on SSB and 31 on CW were lacking cabrillo elements as I
logged them in. We are now up to a significant number of logs in both
modes.
Here are some of the problems:
1. The name of the contest in the cabrillo summary are wrong. There is
an official name for most contests and for me its either CQ-160-CW or
CQ-160-SSB. Anything else and its not cabrillo.
2. The category has fields missing or out of order.
3. The fields in the log portion are out of order or run together. If
the mode and date are run together the log checker tells me mode and or date
is not identified. I then put the log aside until I can put it in Wordpad
and edit it to get correct fields.
I suggest that every contestant should look at the log and if you are not
sure the cabrillo is correct then run it through one of several cabrillo
converter programs. I do find that CT, TR, and Writelog (recent versions)
do produce good cabrillo.
I just finished the SSB logs except for three problem logs and it took a
full two weeks working several hours a day. With 100% cabrillo I could have
checked the logs in a day and 70% of that is set up!. I now face a month of
grinding through the CW logs. Get the log in proper format and the programs
will do the rest!
I am sure the CQ WW, WPX, and ARRL contests must face these problems.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From g3xtt at lineone.net Fri Jul 26 09:51:24 2002
From: g3xtt@lineone.net (Donald Field)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Contest - Announced Operations
Message-ID: <006701c23479$fac38540$39a6403e@field>
Almost there! I have been trying to compile a list of announced operations,
so I thought it might be helpful to share this with the main contest
relectors. I certainly don't pretend it is definitive, but it brings
together information from Daily DX, 425 DX News, and various Web pages
containing announced contest operations. Remarkably, this list contains
announced operations from over 120 island groups, and of course many other
islands will be active too. If you make some QSOs, then do please send in
your log to iota.logs@rsgbhfcc.org (see www.rsgbhfcc.org for full rules) -
usual system, with the log file as (Callsign).LOG or (Callsign).CBR. Enjoy!
EU-001 J45RW
EU-004 EA6URP EA6/DL6YFB
EU-005 M6T G9Q (and many others!!)
EU-006 EJ0A
EU-008 GM2T GM5A
EU-009 GM/F5BLC?
EU-011 M0C
EU-013 GJ2A
EU-015 SV9/PA1AW/P
EU-016 9A7K 9A5V 9A2JY 9A8RR 9A0LH
EU-017 ID9/IK8PGM
EU-020 SM1T SM0DKT/1
EU-023 9H3X 9H3Z 9H3QC
EU-030 OZ/DJ7RJ
EU-031 IC8JAH
EU-032 TM0X
EU-035 R17PQ
EU-038 PA6TEX
EU-042 DL4FCH/P
EU-049 SV8/G4DHF J48S
EU-052 SV1BRL/8
EU-057 DL3KUD/P
EU-064 F6BFH/P
EU-067 SW8L
EU-068 TM2ON
EU-077 ED1URJ
EU-082 RW1ZZ
EU-084 8S5T/0 8S4C/5
EU-089 CU9D
EU-091 II7GR
EU-092 GB5SI
EU-097 OH2/SM0ELV
EU-098 DL0FDX
EU-114 GU8D
EU-115 EI7M
EU-116 MD4K
EU-117 R1MVI
EU-120 G5XV
EU-121 EJ5E
EU-123 GM7X
EU-127 DL5CW/P DL5XL/P DF6QC
EU-128 DH6DG/P DF4XX/P
EU-129 DL0KWH/P
EU-130 IV3/HA8KW/P
EU-132 SN6F/1 SN0WI
EU-133 RI1CGG
EU-136 9A0R 9A/S55A 9A7T/P 9A6AA
EU-143 EA5KB/7
EU-144 IQ8B
EU-146 PI4HQ PA9ZZ/P PA5RA/P
EU-161 RA1QQ
EU-170 9A4A 9A/HB9HAW 9A/HA6PS 9A/HA6NL 9A0A
EU-171 OZ0RM OZ/DL7VOX/P
EU-173 OH9A
EU-175 CU3I
EU-178 ES8X
EU-181 LZ1KSL
EU-184 OH8/ES1RA OH8/ES1FB
EU-186 TA1ED/0
EU-187 SY9DIA
AF-004 EA8BWW
AF-014 CT3KY
AF-016 FR5FD
AF-036 ???
AF-042 EG9IA
AF-065 5C2MI
AS-008 JO1EPY/1
AS-024 JH1MUK/6
AS-032 JA6CM JF6WTY
AS-047 JM1PXG/6
AS-053 E20HHK/P
AS-058 9M2/G4ZFE/P
AS-066 RI0L
AS-080 ???
AS-101 HS1CHB/P
AS-105 DS0DX/2
AS-107 E21EIC/P
AS-117 JA4GXS/4 JA4PXE/4
AS-136 BI4J
AS-137 BI5H
AS-147 JI3DST/8 JR3TVH/8
AS-155 BV9L BV9K
AS-159 YM0T
NA-001 C6DX
NA-014 VE9W
NA-015 CO8LY
NA-026 N2GC
NA-029 VE2DX/VY2 VE1OTA/VY2
NA-032 FP/VE9GLF
NA-033 5K0Z
NA-046 K1VSJ
NA-051 VE7SR? N6HR/VE7 VE7QCR
NA-054 NA8KD
NA-055 W4KJ/1?
NA-058 N2SU
NA-067 N4C
NA-069 K4RFL
NA-075 VE7TMW N7MQ/VE7
NA-076 W4HY
NA-083 N2US/P WF1L/4 W4/LZ3SM KG4NXP KG4OHE AI2P/4
NA-091 AC7PN/VE7
NA-092 K5M
NA-099 KP4AH
NA-105 FS/N3OC
NA-137 KW1DX
NA-141 W4SAA
NA-143 KM5VI
NA-148 AA1IZ WF1N W1DIG
NA-158 WL7O?
NA-213 WW4LL
OC-019 KG9N/KH6
OC-034 YC9WZJ
OC-088 9M6A
OC-154 VK8AN/6
OC-160 VK4FW
OC-169 A35RK
OC-NEW 8A3M
SA-006 PJ2Y
SA-028 ZW2T/P
SA-046 ZX7XX
SA-060 PY8AZT/P
SA-066 YW1T
73 Don G3XTT
IOTA Contest Manager
g3xtt@lineone.net
>From Bill at ng3k.com Fri Jul 26 05:30:39 2002
From: Bill@ng3k.com (Bill@ng3k.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RSGB IOTA Contest Announced Operations
Message-ID: <3D40D06F.5761.1C1FD6@localhost>
IOTA contesters may want to check:
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iota2002.html
This list is sorted by callsign, but users can also get tables
sorted by DXCC-entity and IOTA number by clicking the
corresponding header in the main table or here are the
direct URLs:
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iotad2002.html (By DXCC)
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iotai2002.html (By IOTA)
The table provides: Operation callsign, DXCC Entity, IOTA
reference, Island name, QSL route, Source of info, Operators
and other operational notes.
Hope this is of some use.
73,
Bill/NG3K
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 26 06:23:54 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The Personal Touch
Message-ID: <000d01c2348e$8c7d7db0$0100a8c0@TL01>
I just responded to Trey's "15 days" post and thought I'd throw this out:
1. These days I get on casually for just about everything. (Hopefully this
season N5OT will be ready, but it might not, so I might still be casual this
season).
2. 30 days makes me think "I'll do this later" (so would 15). (My excuse is
I don't have internet at the shack, but even when I operated from home I
still didn't do it right after the contest).
3. More than half the time I forget, because it's not high on the priority
list, because I operated casually.
4. Result - sponsor misses out on some more data, results are one smidge
less comprehensive.
5. If somebody in charge emailed me saying "we know you were on the air
casually, could you send us your data, please?" I would respond favorably.
("Oops. Sorry. Here you go....")
Tree did this from time to time for contests he scored. That old "personal
touch" makes a differernce. I am writing this to cq-contest so the N8BJQs
and N1NDs of the world would consider adding this to their arsenels.
I bet this could be done with software and all the log collector would have
to do is write the text of the resulting email. Trivial. I bet the
software already has this ability built into it just waiting to be used:
"Print a report of callsigns in the contest from whom logs have not yet been
received." Just a guess.
?
Mark, N5OT
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 26 08:19:33 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
scores decision)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0207252207450.10099-100000@shell1>
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020726071807.00a75960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 10:24 PM 7/25/02 -0400, Tim Totten, N4GN wrote:
>I'm certainly hard pressed to dream
>up even a wild hypothetical scenario where the difference between a 15-day
>and 30-day submission window would make any difference to me. And the
>goal of greatly reducing the time to report the results is certainly a
>worthy one.
>
>So I'm very much in favor of implementing a 15-day submission window,
>starting with this year's SS.
I wouldn't mind 15 days either, but I can't, for the life of me, figure out
why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by more than 15
days. Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented just
as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From balister at vt.edu Fri Jul 26 09:57:16 2002
From: balister@vt.edu (balister)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [iota-contest] IOTA Contest - Announced Operations
Message-ID: <3D4243B8@zathras>
You can add:
K4EP/P from NA112. QSL via CBA or buro. Also look for KF4NLM/P, QSL via
CBA or buro.
If we don't have a repeat of this morning storm :) Gotta luv the North
Carolina
coast in July.
Philip
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 26 10:05:13 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
In-Reply-To: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFOELEDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
<<SNIP>>
>
> OK, so there you have the details of my proposal. The purpose of this
> message is to solicit feedback from the contest community about how a
> 15 day log submission deadline would affect *you*. Please feel free
> to write me privately, or to post back to the cq-contest list itself
> and make your opinion heard -- either way is fine with me.
>
> Please limit your comments to how this change would have affected
> *you* personally in a contest during a recent year or how it might
> affect you in the future. I am not interested in hearing hypothetical
> situations such as "but, but, but, what if someone operates the
> contest from the USVI, then goes on a 16 day Carnival Cruise
> immediately after the contest, and during the cruise an asteroid falls
> out of the sky and disables the communications system rendering the
> onboard internet cafe inoperable?" I can think of plenty of
> hypothetical situations of this nature on my own, as well as plenty
> non-hypothetical ones. Earlier this year I spent 42 days in VP8/F,
> VP8/Sand and VP8/G, and I can tell you that I could have beaten the 15
> day deadline from any of these places had it been necessary. What I
> am looking for is *practical* feedback about problems that the 15 day
> deadline could possible create in your own personal situation.
I fully support this proposal. Something like this was EXACTLY what I was
hoping would be the consequence of moving the line scores out of QST.
As for some of your assumptions... Personally, the first thing I do with my
logs is immediately copy them to another media and then I either process the
logs the next day/evening (once my head is moderately clear), or they sit in
the computer until the deadline looms near. The absolute number of days to
the deadline has never been an issue with me. I've never been on a
DXpedition in a contest, however. But, it's hard for me to imagine any
location in the world that, short of a boat sinking or airplane crashing,
would not allow me to get to an internet port within 15 days. Or, put
differently, I would plan for that to happen with plenty of time to spare
for backup.
As evidence 15 days' being sufficient, I'll relate some of my experience
with cruise lines. I note that just about every cruise line offers cruises
in the 10-12 day-long time frame. In that time, a cruise can get you from
Istanbul to the east coast of Spain. Or, from Southampton, England to
Athens. Transatlantic is much shorter. BA to the Antarctic and back is
slightly less. And that's mostly with overnight cruising and sitting in a
port all day or meandering in beautiful bays looking at wildlife during the
day. So, can a fishing trawler make it from Unreachable Rock to Internet
City in 10-12 days without the sightseeing delays? Absolutely, IMHO.
<Now, if the deal is, he has to stop to fish, dunno :-)) >
Nice job. Thanks for taking the lead on vastly improving our results
publication.
Vy 73,
Gary W2CS
Apex, NC
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 26 10:21:21 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020725184432.00998ca0@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIELFDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Dave,
Your expose brought back some personal memories that were very similar. As
a kid I, too, would pour over contest line scores and imagine what kind of
station and op skills were required to be in that top ten list. Or, plot
how I was going to beat the kid across town who thoroughly trounced me in a
SS with only dipoles. I'd analyze the hell of them. Hell, I still do!
Kids of today (kids of all ages, but "kids") will have no problem doing the
same thing with the internet results. In fact, the various
searching/sorting will likely improve it a bit. As we, the contesting
community, become accustomed to this resource, I'm sure the copy will
improve as will pictures and station descriptions.
Bud, K2KIR, made an excellent point when he expresses concern about losing
the line scores as web sites change, systems crash, etc. A hundred
thousand printed copies probably stand a better chance of being kept safe
over time than web site content does.
I don't know if ARRL HQ still does this, but years ago they would keep at
least one copy of every QST (and other League pub) ever published. It was
neat to visit HQ and be able to pull one of these and gingerly look through
it. Something equivalent to that really needs to be implemented for the
computer line scores and writeups. In many ways these contest results,
pictures and station descriptions are our history. They show what we looked
like (gads!), bring back memories of that equipment we thought was state of
the art (we really made Qs with THAT?), and sets a statistical base for
comparision with future efforts (nr of participants, top scores, scores vs
sunspot cycle, ...).
What's the best way of preserving web site content for the future? I'm a
user of the web, not a web site architect. Is it possible to capture a
"snapshot" of the ARRL site or subset thereof that can be activated later
and still work? (Note this implies probably storing the computer image on
which it resides, and maybe at some points the computer itself, so that
supporting software is part of the archive.) I don't think the equivalent
of a batch of QSTs in a climate-controlled room is easily accomplished.
But it should be done.
73,
Gary W2CS
Apex, NC
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of David A. Pruett
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:08 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
>
>
> Back in the early seventies when I was a new ham (licensed 2-3 years) and
> starting to get very enthused about contesting, the QST contest writeups
> were a HUGE factor in increasing my knowledge. I was fortunate that the
> library at community college I attended for the first few years
> after high
> school had a rather complete collection of QSTs for the prior
> fifteen years
> or so. They were stored in a back room and the librarian would
> unlock the
> room and let me sit back there for hours digesting contest results.
>
> What was it that attracted my interest - line scores? Heck no!
> First, it
> was pictures of contest stations; no, not stations with a DX40 and an
> NC300, but pictures of competitive stations like W3GRF, K1LPL/3, XE1IIJ,
> W7RM, etc. It was always interesting to see what these guys were
> running,
> which gave me something to aspire to. Second were the tables
> showing QSOs
> and mults (varied depending on the contest); again, showing me what was
> possible. And finally, contest writeups which explained the
> contest - who
> beat who, and why; significant scores, antecdotes, etc.; much more than
> simple recitations of first, second and third places in each category.
>
> Its been a number of years since I've read a contest writeup in a
> magazine
> which I truly enjoyed. The CQWW writeups, IMHO, are better than the ARRL
> ones because K3EST is deeply involved in the contest and understands what
> went on. I commend the ARRL recent writeups (particularly the on-line
> versions) by guest authors which have been a great improvement and will
> continue to get better as these writers gain experience (that is,
> assuming
> they don't burn out and quit). Still there is room for
> improvement - IMHO
> there needs to be more pictures and more comparison breakdowns. For
> example, the January VHF SS writeup lacked the traditional boxes with top
> QSOs and grids per band. I'm not sure whether scoring info by band was
> available in the results - even if so, sorting through hundreds of scores
> is a lot of work for the reader when the author might be able to run a
> database query and format it into a table with little work.
>
> I believe that an attractive, interesting article about the results of a
> contest has a place in QST. I'm not so much against including
> line scores
> as I am a proponent of better use of space. I'd prefer to *read
> about the
> contest* and opposed to going glassy-eyed over columns of data.
>
> At the same time, we contesters need to get off our butts. We need to
> submit more photos, stories, etc. about our contest efforts as
> material for
> the writeup authors to use. And those of us who are capable of writing
> need to step up and volunteer to do the writeups. N1ND's time is put to
> much better use making the contest results happen.
>
> FWIW.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave/K8CC
>
>
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>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Jul 26 09:40:24 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <029701c2344a$ad7e8750$0100a8c0@TL01>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207260830540.21444-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> I can't help thinking that kids today are more web-fluent than we were ever
> magazine-fluent. All the kids I mentor (about 5 whiz-kids) do things with
> their hands on a keyboard and mouse that I can't even follow because it
> happens too fast, and every last one of them types faster than any of us
> ever did in High School.
>
Yes, but can they string up a 40 meter dipole? Solder parts onto a PC
poard? (I won't even say surface-mount IC's.) Replace a water pump on an
Intrepid? (I replaced a water pump on a 1963 Chevy when I was 16, but
replacing one on an Intrepid may well be impossible :-)
It is true that computers have become an important part of many peoples'
lives, but there is still the real world out there and I still believe in
Robert Heinlein's long list of "things a man should be able to do" - to
quote him, "specialization is for insects."
>
> PS. Tree, if you don't want to get too close to the lighter fluid with the
> match, you can do this really cool thing with a match and a can of WD-40.
>
Someone showed me that trick once as a possible self-defense device. I
guess as long as the spray is blowing the flame AWAY from the nozzle,
you're OK, but you have to watch it when you stop spraying. :-)
73, Zack W9SZ
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 26 10:15:53 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
References: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207260830540.21444-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <006f01c234af$ffb701e0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Zack asked:
> Yes, but can they string up a 40 meter dipole? Solder parts onto a PC
> poard? (I won't even say surface-mount IC's.) Replace a water pump on an
> Intrepid? (I replaced a water pump on a 1963 Chevy when I was 16, but
> replacing one on an Intrepid may well be impossible :-)
Well, one of them can put up a dipole, I know. He's licensed and has
antennas up. I helped, too. I know another one of them can do his own
major car repairs. I don't know if any of them solder.
It's a good point, Zack, but my comment was mostly aimed at "where
youngsters are most likely to bump into contest results." I think they are
more likely to find it by random webbing than by walking down the street and
seeing QST any more.
Mark, N5OT
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 26 10:26:54 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020726071807.00a75960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <009601c234b0$9bf2e330$0100a8c0@TL01>
>I can't, for the life of me, figure out
>why that should improve timeliness of result
>delivery by more than 15 days.
Um, web-based results? Trey said:
>45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
Now that QST results are history, there's another 45 days right there. The
time is right to try and move closer to quicker results.
Mark, N5OT
>From W4EF at dellroy.com Fri Jul 26 08:29:43 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Michael Tope)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
References: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIELFDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <179001c234b0$e2492c90$6501a8c0@1800XP>
Gary,
If you do a "save as" from internet explorer, it will save everything
you are looking at. I use this to save Ebay transactions that eventually
go away from their website.
73 de Mike, W4EF...................
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 6:21 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
> Dave,
>
> Your expose brought back some personal memories that were very similar.
As
> a kid I, too, would pour over contest line scores and imagine what kind of
> station and op skills were required to be in that top ten list. Or, plot
> how I was going to beat the kid across town who thoroughly trounced me in
a
> SS with only dipoles. I'd analyze the hell of them. Hell, I still do!
>
> Kids of today (kids of all ages, but "kids") will have no problem doing
the
> same thing with the internet results. In fact, the various
> searching/sorting will likely improve it a bit. As we, the contesting
> community, become accustomed to this resource, I'm sure the copy will
> improve as will pictures and station descriptions.
>
> Bud, K2KIR, made an excellent point when he expresses concern about losing
> the line scores as web sites change, systems crash, etc. A hundred
> thousand printed copies probably stand a better chance of being kept safe
> over time than web site content does.
>
> I don't know if ARRL HQ still does this, but years ago they would keep at
> least one copy of every QST (and other League pub) ever published. It was
> neat to visit HQ and be able to pull one of these and gingerly look
through
> it. Something equivalent to that really needs to be implemented for the
> computer line scores and writeups. In many ways these contest results,
> pictures and station descriptions are our history. They show what we
looked
> like (gads!), bring back memories of that equipment we thought was state
of
> the art (we really made Qs with THAT?), and sets a statistical base for
> comparision with future efforts (nr of participants, top scores, scores vs
> sunspot cycle, ...).
>
> What's the best way of preserving web site content for the future? I'm a
> user of the web, not a web site architect. Is it possible to capture a
> "snapshot" of the ARRL site or subset thereof that can be activated later
> and still work? (Note this implies probably storing the computer image on
> which it resides, and maybe at some points the computer itself, so that
> supporting software is part of the archive.) I don't think the equivalent
> of a batch of QSTs in a climate-controlled room is easily accomplished.
>
> But it should be done.
>
> 73,
>
> Gary W2CS
> Apex, NC
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of David A. Pruett
> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:08 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
> >
> >
> > Back in the early seventies when I was a new ham (licensed 2-3 years)
and
> > starting to get very enthused about contesting, the QST contest writeups
> > were a HUGE factor in increasing my knowledge. I was fortunate that the
> > library at community college I attended for the first few years
> > after high
> > school had a rather complete collection of QSTs for the prior
> > fifteen years
> > or so. They were stored in a back room and the librarian would
> > unlock the
> > room and let me sit back there for hours digesting contest results.
> >
> > What was it that attracted my interest - line scores? Heck no!
> > First, it
> > was pictures of contest stations; no, not stations with a DX40 and an
> > NC300, but pictures of competitive stations like W3GRF, K1LPL/3, XE1IIJ,
> > W7RM, etc. It was always interesting to see what these guys were
> > running,
> > which gave me something to aspire to. Second were the tables
> > showing QSOs
> > and mults (varied depending on the contest); again, showing me what was
> > possible. And finally, contest writeups which explained the
> > contest - who
> > beat who, and why; significant scores, antecdotes, etc.; much more than
> > simple recitations of first, second and third places in each category.
> >
> > Its been a number of years since I've read a contest writeup in a
> > magazine
> > which I truly enjoyed. The CQWW writeups, IMHO, are better than the
ARRL
> > ones because K3EST is deeply involved in the contest and understands
what
> > went on. I commend the ARRL recent writeups (particularly the on-line
> > versions) by guest authors which have been a great improvement and will
> > continue to get better as these writers gain experience (that is,
> > assuming
> > they don't burn out and quit). Still there is room for
> > improvement - IMHO
> > there needs to be more pictures and more comparison breakdowns. For
> > example, the January VHF SS writeup lacked the traditional boxes with
top
> > QSOs and grids per band. I'm not sure whether scoring info by band was
> > available in the results - even if so, sorting through hundreds of
scores
> > is a lot of work for the reader when the author might be able to run a
> > database query and format it into a table with little work.
> >
> > I believe that an attractive, interesting article about the results of a
> > contest has a place in QST. I'm not so much against including
> > line scores
> > as I am a proponent of better use of space. I'd prefer to *read
> > about the
> > contest* and opposed to going glassy-eyed over columns of data.
> >
> > At the same time, we contesters need to get off our butts. We need to
> > submit more photos, stories, etc. about our contest efforts as
> > material for
> > the writeup authors to use. And those of us who are capable of writing
> > need to step up and volunteer to do the writeups. N1ND's time is put to
> > much better use making the contest results happen.
> >
> > FWIW.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Dave/K8CC
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
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>
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 26 08:47:22 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade
In-Reply-To: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020726073248.00af9470@pop3.eskimo.com>
At 06:10 PM 7/25/2002 -0700, Trey Garlough wrote:
Over the past couple of years I have noticed a trend in how contest
logs are submitted. There is one spike that occurs right after the
contest and another spike the occurs right before the log submission
deadline, and during the intervening weeks the robot becomes very
quiet.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I might add that the same exact scenario plays out on the
unofficial 3830 summaries. In the past, I would only post
summaries for a couple weeks after a contest. However, I noticed
we could lose a significant number of participants that always
waited until just before the deadline. For that reason, the
final summary is now always after the log deadline even if
intervening weeks are empty of posts.
I'm sure there are a myriad of reasons for those late logs
but I personally feel 2 weeks and a day are more than sufficient to
get the results in. I also agree it's part of the contest to meet
whatever deadline is set. Seeing line scores six months after
the event (BTW, that's QST - CQ magazine is 12 months!) is like
reading box scores for the local ball team after the season is over.
My input to this "voice" vote - aye! :>)
73
dink, n7wa
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Fri Jul 26 10:06:00 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020726071807.00a75960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <014c01c234b5$f3d3bca0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
> I wouldn't mind 15 days either, but I can't, for the life of me, figure
out
> why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by more than 15
> days. Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented
just
> as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
Excellent point! 15 days is a small saving -- 6-12 months is a big saving.
It would be less disruptive to leave the submission window at 30 days and
have the results posted to the web within 60 days.
BUT what happens if you are not an ARRL member - do you have to wait an
additional 30 days until, for example, the SS results are release from the
members only section? I have never understood the logic of encouraging
everyone to enter contests and then penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30
day waiting period. I wonder if this annoying and discriminating policy will
change with movement of line scores to the web?
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 26 12:07:13 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
scores decision)
In-Reply-To: <009601c234b0$9bf2e330$0100a8c0@TL01>
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020726071807.00a75960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020726110630.025cb280@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 09:26 AM 7/26/02 -0500, N5OT wrote:
> >I can't, for the life of me, figure out
> >why that should improve timeliness of result
> >delivery by more than 15 days.
>
>Um, web-based results? Trey said:
>
> >45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
>
>Now that QST results are history, there's another 45 days right there. The
>time is right to try and move closer to quicker results.
Mark, my point was that all of those things could be (are) happening
regardless of whether the log deadline is 15 or 30 days, so the net
improvement from that single change is only 15 days.
I just think that the 30 to 15-day change needs to be considered on its own
merits.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From k1mk at arrl.net Fri Jul 26 09:18:52 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
Message-ID:
<20020726081853.28731.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Fri, 26 July 2002, Pete Smith wrote:
> but I can't, for the life of me,
> figure out why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by
> more than 15 days.
I think you're right Pete, the big improvement in what Trey is proposing
comes from challenging the log checkers (and maybe even the article
writers) to turn things around ASAP rather than working to the deadlines
imposed by the QST publication schedule.
> Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented
> just as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
Previoulsy, was there anything to prevent scores and even the entire
results article from being prepared well in advance of their required
deadlines?
73,
Mike K1MK
Michael Keane K1MK
k1mk@arrl.net
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From n6nt at ispwest.com Fri Jul 26 09:38:07 2002
From: n6nt@ispwest.com (Bruce Sawyer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
Message-ID: <000701c234ba$785fc960$ab755142@fpfzqlga>
Dink sez:
>However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
>going on-line in three short words.
>
>
>I like 'em.
Ditto. I don't know who did the web page design on this one, but I think it
is absolutely fabulous. You can ask the page to select entries by a number
of different criteria (e.g. club, power level, category) and then sort the
selected entries by a succession of different criteria. It's trivially easy
to manipulate all the data in just about any way you can imagine, and the
results are clearly presented. Somebody did one heck of a good job in
designing this thing, and I think it's a huge step forward. Matter of
fact, it took me no time at all to see that among the HP entrants in the 10m
contest there was only one case where the US/VE winner beat the DX winner:
K1KI over little 'ole me. Kudos to Tom for that one.
Bruce, N6NT/ZF2NT
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 26 12:27:38 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #285 - 14 msgs
References: <200207261504.g6QF4UhF030447@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <025801c234ba$65f03e40$03010a0a@office1>
Dennis,
My understanding (and I could be wrong) from people I've talked to both at
the League and/or involved in Logbook of the World is that contest logs will
not automatically be sent over to the LotW system. There are a lot of good
reasons for this, but the chief one is that you have to (or will have to)
have a registered digital signature in order to upload logs to LotW for
security reasons. I'm sure many will argue that this is an unnecessary step
or overbearing secruity requirements, but that's the way it's going to be.
But if you think it through... OK, so you email your Cabrillo log in to the
contest desk. What's one more email to the LotW system -- 15 seconds? So
it really shouldn't be a problem as a practical matter.
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Ponsness" <wb0wao@hotmail.com>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL, Line Scores, Etc.
One of the down sides is not seeing you call in print in QST, but I can live
with that. I must say that I am impressed with the content on the ARRL
website. Especially the LCR's - showed me where I needed to improve <grin>
! I can live with the change.
I do agree that the time should be cut to 15 days for submissions AND most
definately that the results be "published" very soon after. 6 months is
waaaay to long to wait. The results should be made available within 30 days
of the event.
Now, when will the 'test logs be incorporated into the "LoTW" project? That
is something that I know I would love to see. If the Q is good enough for
the ARRL to accept as a valid 'test Q, it should be good enough to accept
for WAS, DXCC, etc. I am not a "big gun" in the contesting game (100w,
vertical, wire antennas) and I think I have received a total of a couple
dozen QSL requests from 'test Q's. I can only imagine what a major 'test
station gets!
Anyway, I will still participate in the 'tests, have fun, and give out some
Q's. Look for me in the pileups!
73
Dennis - WB0WAO
(Searchin' and Pouncin')
NJQRP #329
FPQRP #-347
SOC #499
FISTS # 9299
GACW #622
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Jul 26 12:17:04 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <006f01c234af$ffb701e0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207261106040.27046-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> Zack asked:
>
> > Yes, but can they string up a 40 meter dipole? Solder parts onto a PC
> > poard? (I won't even say surface-mount IC's.) Replace a water pump on an
> > Intrepid? (I replaced a water pump on a 1963 Chevy when I was 16, but
> > replacing one on an Intrepid may well be impossible :-)
>
> Well, one of them can put up a dipole, I know. He's licensed and has
> antennas up. I helped, too. I know another one of them can do his own
> major car repairs. I don't know if any of them solder.
>
> It's a good point, Zack, but my comment was mostly aimed at "where
> youngsters are most likely to bump into contest results." I think they are
> more likely to find it by random webbing than by walking down the street and
> seeing QST any more.
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
Yes, it sure is easier to locate them on the web than in other places. I
haven't even looked at any of the local magazine stands in years, so I
don't know if QST or CQ or any ham radio mags are there.
W2EV recently made an example file of what can be done with line scores
on internet that would take up way too much space in a magazine. His
example was for a VHF QSO party. Lots of extra data including antennas
used and gain on each band, elevation above MSL, elevation above average
terrain, power on each band, etc. The extra space isn't so much of a
concern on internet. So lots of pictures can also be posted.
That sort of thing might get some youngsters excited. It would probably
get me excited, too!
73, Zack W9SZ
>From k1mk at arrl.net Fri Jul 26 10:31:19 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
Message-ID:
<20020726093124.7537.h002.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Fri, 26 July 2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> > I can't, for the life of me, figure out
> > why that should improve timeliness of result
> > delivery by more than 15 days.
>
> Um, web-based results? Trey said:
>
> > 45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
>
> Now that QST results are history, there's another 45 days right
> there.
It's unclear to which date that 45 day lead time is measured relative.
The ad deadline for QST is something like 45 days prior to the date of
issue so it makes sense if that was the editorial deadline as well.
For some time contest results articles have been published to the Web
some 4 to 6 weeks prior to their date of issue i.e. results appearing in
September QST are on the Web site now.
So it's likely that most of the delay that could have been attributed to
that 45 day lead has already been history for a while.
Other than an understandable reluctance to freeze changes well in
advance of the deadline for going to production, was there ever anything
standing in the way of early release of results?
73,
Mike K1MK
Michael Keane K1MK
k1mk@arrl.net
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From pschipelliti at att.net Fri Jul 26 19:08:56 2002
From: pschipelliti@att.net (pschipelliti@att.net)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Vertical Advice Needed
Message-ID:
<20020726180857.ITIE12658.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>
Hi Gang,
The W1DAD / K1MOM little pistol antenna farm presently
consists of two Carolina Windom Antennas (CW160 special
and CW620) at about 35-40 feet and a Cushcraft R7000+
ground mounted trap vertical.
This week we aquired two other used vertical antennas
that need to be restored. They are a GAP Challenger DX-
VIII and a Butternut HF6V. I have the manuals for both.
The R7000+ needs some work and since we have two more
antennas to "play" with, I want to swap out the R7000+
with either the GAP or the Butternut.
I have read the antenna reviews in the various journals
and looked at all of the eham.net reviews.
If you could put up either antenna, would you restore
the GAP or the Butternut? I would really like to
improve my 80 meter tx/rx so that may influence my
choice.
If you have knowledge or experience concerning these
antennas, which would you install?
I realize that there are many other, preferable antennas
and configurations. Overall, I'm happy with my Carolina
Windoms. I simply want to know which of these two
verticals would you use to replace the R7000+ as a
backup antenna?
Thanks & 73
Peter W1DAD@ARRL.NET
Atkinson, NH
>From wstinson at listenup.com Fri Jul 26 13:16:55 2002
From: wstinson@listenup.com (Walton Stinson, W0CP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <014001c234d0$a362d380$3652a8c0@listenup.com>
Now that the changes to QST are official policy, I'd like to explain why it
happened, what it means, and why I voted as I did.
Ever since the League started doing readership surveys, we have known that
section news and contest line scores have very low readership. We also know
that they serve an essential function, that's why we have kept them. Several
years back, when we began our WEB initiative, we were hopeful that the web site
would eventually reach a level of sophistication and member acceptance that
would allow it to take over some of the "narrow casting" that we have been
forced for so many years to squeeze into QST. We realized then that the WEB
could potentially do a much better job of providing special interest member
communications, since it would be free from the severe restrictions on space
and the deadlines that go along with being in QST, thereby freeing space for
more feature articles in the journal. That day has now arrived.
While this will allow us to reduce our page count, to call this a cost
saving move would miss the real point. This is not a short term cost saving
move that was just thought up. We have been considering this for at least
five years. It is a common sense business decision that makes sense outside
of any cost saving considerations. QST is our most tangible member benefit,
and it's also a general interest magazine (we support some significant special
interests with NCJ, QEX, the WEB, and the DX Annual). We must give our
editorial staff the ability to choose material for QST that is going to have
the
greatest overall appeal to our membership. We know that section news and
contest line scores are important to publish, but pages of numbers and
callsigns don't have much general appeal. Even those who are regular readers
are likely to read just a tiny part of the coverage. Yet, together they consume
over 170 pages each year. Those pages are worth $4,437 each. Do the math. This
is not a trivial allocation of League resources.
Today, we are doing a better job for section news and contest results on the
WEB than we ever could do in QST, and we've just begun. It's simply a more
appropriate medium for delivering the info.We have an exceptional web site,
staffed by real pro's. For contests, we can release results months sooner,
and in searchable, sortable data base files. Now, we will have the freedom
to focus on the how, why, where, and fun of contesting in QST, rather than
publishing rows of numbers and call signs in tiny print. Now, we can use QST
to provide articles about the most interesting section or contest
activities - articles that will actually be read by most of the 160,000 hams
who receive the publication. We will actually have the ability to promote
these activities through expanded feature stories.
There are some who will view this proposal as a sign of decreased support
for contesting or section activities. That is definitely not the case. This
is simply a change. As both management and the board know from experience,
change does not occur easily at the League. Whatever the issue, there is
always a vocal minority that prefers things to stay as they are. And that's
fine. Changes like this shouldn't be easy. However, change is absolutely
necessary for the continued success and viability of any organization,
including the League. We now have the opportunity to improve our reporting of
section activities and contesting, while also improving the value and quality
of QST to the majority of our members. Let's make the most of it.
73, Walt W0CP
ARRL Director (RM)
(and past chairman of the Contest Advisory Committee)
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>From k0emt at dbbear.com Fri Jul 26 19:48:18 2002
From: k0emt@dbbear.com (Bryan - k0emt)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Line Scores - Backup/Alternate DB
In-Reply-To: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIELFDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
References: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIELFDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <20020726.18481889@mis.configured.host>
On 2002-07-26, 08:21:21, "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net> wrote
regarding RE: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores:
> What's the best way of preserving web site content for the future?
Well the web site offers to save the current selection
as either a CSV (Comma Separated Values) or Tab Delimited file.
If results for the entire contest are selected (no filters applied).
You can save the entire contents of either file.
Perhaps, contesting.com could "backup" the results on their website.
Maybe offering an alternate/additional interface to viewing/sorting?
If a database were to be built including all contests,
it could offer a way to see individual results over the years
in the same contest. It'd provide for numerous possibilities.
Of course this interface should provide for CSV, TAB and XML output.
73,
Bryan ? k0emt
http://www.dbbear.com/k0emt/
>From n2mg at contesting.com Fri Jul 26 12:52:51 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade
Message-ID:
<20020726115252.12010.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
N4ZR wrote:
> (M)y point was that all of those things could be
> (are) happening regardless of whether the log
> deadline is 15 or 30 days, so the net
> improvement from that single change is only 15 days.
For linescores on the web:
time-to-publish = DEADLINE + PROCESSING.
Currently DEADLINE = 30 days and according to Trey,
PROCESSING = 15 days. So the total is 45 days. Cut
DEADLINE to 15 days and we get a 33% improvement in
time-to-publish.
> I just think that the 30 to 15-day change needs to
> be considered on its own merits.
Suggesting the 30-to-15 day change only makes sense in
the aftermath of the recent reduction in publishing
leadtime enabled by the removal of line scores from
QST. Make this suggestion 6 months ago, and 15 days
would be virtually meaningless. Today, not so. And
in a way, it is standing on its own merits - the rest
of the improvement in score-publishing time is pretty
much a done deal. All that's left is the deadline.
73 Mike N2MG
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>From k8cc at comcast.net Fri Jul 26 15:51:07 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
In-Reply-To: <003f01c23470$f16980c0$6a2745cf@default>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020726143124.009b82a0@mail.comcast.net>
Speaking as another logchecker, I agree totally with the comments made by
K4JRB. If we are going to have fifteen day log deadlines and thirty days
for results, then we're going to have to live with the following realities:
1. Not enough time to guarantee arrival for overseas logs coming by postal
mail, whether on paper or floppy disk. I think that we here in America
take e-mail for granted and I for one am not willing to preclude entries
from stations who for whatever reason cannot electronically submit.
2. The entrant will have to be responsible for submitting a log in the
correct format. This is not a minor problem - in the 2001 ARRL 10M
Contest, 200 of the 2100+ electronic logs had errors as submitted which
would have precluded them being included in the results, and many of these
were big guns. Most of these are cockpit errors, which tell me that the
fast majority of entrants never look at their log files before mailing them
in. In the case of the 10M contest, fixing these problem logs (manual
editing, requesting new logs) took over 30 man-hours. With the compressed
timetables being proposed, anything more than minor corrections will go
into the bit bucket.
As Trey pointed out, the web site results could be updated for late logs
and corrections. However, if we allow for this what point is there to
publishing results after 30 days when the standings might change after 40
days? Furthermore, when is the cutoff to issue awards?
My point here is that there is more to this that simply decided to compress
the timeframe. If you want fast, recognize that there will be more
responsibility on you, the entrant if you want to be sure to make the results.
73,
Dave/K8CC
>From olinger at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 26 15:56:51 2002
From: olinger@bellsouth.net (olinger@bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
Message-ID: <20020726185651.GPWC1173.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@localhost>
ARRL will only take cabrillo, and they have a robot which bounces the log email
if something is amiss.
Otherwise they have the same problems you do.
I think that eventually the idea has to go away that there is someone at Log
Central who will convert and/or clean it up for you no matter how screwed up.
Go to cabrillo, period, clone ARRL's robot and bounce stuff that isn't in
format. No paper logs. 15 days. Run the programs and publish. 30 days.
Personally, I think it is arrogant and careless for people submitting logs to
think that there is a crew there just drooling to type in their logs and clean
up for them. Write a note back and ask them if their mother still picks up
their socks and underwear.
When all logs were paper it was a different deal, but it is a real stretch to
think that someone does not have access to a computer somewhere. Maybe
exceptions here and there, but 10% of the logs? Just refuse. PC's are
ubiquitous. Leave it to the log submitter to figure out how to get it into
email.
If one of our local contesters was having problems, the local chapter of PVRC
would do something to help out. One of our guys. Our business. Take care of our
own and all of that to keep up the club score.
Frankly there is enough stuff around, that in the rare case a DX type just
couldn't swing it, some number of us would put something together and SEND THEM
a PC, rather than lose the mult in the contest.
Have you seen the photo of an African native, nose ring, spectacular tribal
dress and headgear, spear, and all, setting down with his Mac powerbook, going
through his email?
TIME TO MOVE ON.
Things we do repeatedly on short notice and work around them when we're on
trips, etc:
Pay the mortgage
Pay the power bill
Pay the phone bill
Pay the water bill
Pay taxes
Renew driver's license
Renew car tags
Carry out the garbage for the collector
etc, etc, etc.
15 days to log, 30 days to final results. Yea. Bring it on.
73,
Guy, K2AV
>
> From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
>
> I can't speak for any contest but the CQ 160 Contests. Shortening the
> deadline makes sense
> if and only if the following occurs:
> All logs are submitted electronically and are in PROPER cabrillo
> format.
>
> For the 2002 CQ 160 Contests I have received 438 SSB logs and 889 CW Logs
> plus check logs
> plus check logs. Lets look at the facts! 46 Paper logs were received on
> SSB and 77 on CW
> Most were small logs but several on both modes were significant. There
> were 40 old format electronic logs received on SSB and 89 on CW. Of these
> all but 5 were e-mailed. Of the rest supposedly cabrillo I find that 1 out
> of 5 do not check as cabrillo and have to be converted before
> running through the crass check/log check programs. On top of this I
> noticed that 18 on SSB and 31 on CW were lacking cabrillo elements as I
> logged them in. We are now up to a significant number of logs in both
> modes.
>
> Here are some of the problems:
>
> 1. The name of the contest in the cabrillo summary are wrong. There is
> an official name for most contests and for me its either CQ-160-CW or
> CQ-160-SSB. Anything else and its not cabrillo.
> 2. The category has fields missing or out of order.
> 3. The fields in the log portion are out of order or run together. If
> the mode and date are run together the log checker tells me mode and or date
> is not identified. I then put the log aside until I can put it in Wordpad
> and edit it to get correct fields.
>
> I suggest that every contestant should look at the log and if you are not
> sure the cabrillo is correct then run it through one of several cabrillo
> converter programs. I do find that CT, TR, and Writelog (recent versions)
> do produce good cabrillo.
>
> I just finished the SSB logs except for three problem logs and it took a
> full two weeks working several hours a day. With 100% cabrillo I could have
> checked the logs in a day and 70% of that is set up!. I now face a month of
> grinding through the CW logs. Get the log in proper format and the programs
> will do the rest!
>
> I am sure the CQ WW, WPX, and ARRL contests must face these problems.
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
>
>
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>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Fri Jul 26 21:16:44 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20020725074143.00a7c830@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <VA.00000008.00f44c39@gw3njw>
> However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
> going on-line in three short words.
>
>
> I like 'em.
>
Erm, am I being dense here, is there a way to separate the scores by
continent as there was in QST? That is invaluable.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
Contest Cambria-http://www.gw7x.org
>From k5zd at charter.net Fri Jul 26 21:10:28 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
In-Reply-To: <014c01c234b5$f3d3bca0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDEEEODLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
You said:
> I have never understood the logic of encouraging everyone to enter
contests and then
> penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30 day waiting period.
Maybe to encourage people to join the ARRL? Seems a reasonable goal since
they are sponsoring the event...
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Sylvan Katz
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 15:06 PM
> To: Contest Reflector
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
> scores decision)
>
>
> > I wouldn't mind 15 days either, but I can't, for the life of me, figure
> out
> > why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by more than 15
> > days. Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented
> just
> > as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
>
> Excellent point! 15 days is a small saving -- 6-12 months is a big saving.
> It would be less disruptive to leave the submission window at 30 days and
> have the results posted to the web within 60 days.
>
> BUT what happens if you are not an ARRL member - do you have to wait an
> additional 30 days until, for example, the SS results are release from the
> members only section? I have never understood the logic of encouraging
> everyone to enter contests and then penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30
> day waiting period. I wonder if this annoying and discriminating
> policy will
> change with movement of line scores to the web?
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
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> Saskatoon, SK
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> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 26 17:18:39 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
References: <200207261939.g6QJd3hF019844@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <02df01c234e3$01495980$03010a0a@office1>
Sylvan,
At the moment, the web results are available "early" to League members and
are not available to the public until approx. 30 days after being published
in QST. Obviously this is an attempt to encourage people to join the
League.
However, that does not mean that this will continue once the line scores
move to the web. If you think about it, since the line scores will never be
published again after 1 Jan 2003, there is no longer a purpose to the delay.
So, I would not be at all surprised if this policy changes after the 1st.
But that is a guess on my part -- Dan N1ND up at ARRL Hq would be a better
person to ask that of.
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
From: Sylvan Katz <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
To: Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Sylvan Katz <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
> I wouldn't mind 15 days either, but I can't, for the life of me, figure
out
> why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by more than 15
> days. Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented
just
> as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
Excellent point! 15 days is a small saving -- 6-12 months is a big saving.
It would be less disruptive to leave the submission window at 30 days and
have the results posted to the web within 60 days.
BUT what happens if you are not an ARRL member - do you have to wait an
additional 30 days until, for example, the SS results are release from the
members only section? I have never understood the logic of encouraging
everyone to enter contests and then penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30
day waiting period. I wonder if this annoying and discriminating policy will
change with movement of line scores to the web?
.. sylvan
????
----------------
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Saskatoon, SK
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 26 17:27:36 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207261939.g6QJd3hF019844@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <02e001c234e3$0442c360$03010a0a@office1>
The long lead times go back to the early days of most contests when all of
the logs were submitted on (horrors!) paper, including dupe sheets, and
hand-written to boot. The long time lags were once required to give the
poor souls on the contest committees time to process (by hand) the logs and
assemble the summaries.
Given that the vast majority of us now use digital means to keep and submit
our contest logs, and given that some format standardization (ie CT, TRLog,
Cabrillo, etc. formats) can easily be mandated, which in turn implies that
more automation can be used to do some of the intial log comparisons... it
now seems obvious to conclude that the long lead times are no longer
neccesary for the vast majority.
I am not entirely comfortable with shaving the entry deadline from one month
to 15 days, though. There are enough extenuating circumstances where I
could see some problems. However, since we ought to be saving many months
in time between the easier methods of compiling the logs, and not having to
wait an additional 45 days between submission-to-printer, printing, and
mailing the magazine, I suggest we hold off on shaving the deadlines until
we see how much of an effect the other time savings has.
In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys? Tell me if
I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the contest
instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
To: swca@swbell.net
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
From: "Michael Keane, K1MK" <k1mk@arrl.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
On Fri, 26 July 2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> > I can't, for the life of me, figure out
> > why that should improve timeliness of result
> > delivery by more than 15 days.
>
> Um, web-based results? Trey said:
>
> > 45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
>
> Now that QST results are history, there's another 45 days right
> there.
It's unclear to which date that 45 day lead time is measured relative.
The ad deadline for QST is something like 45 days prior to the date of
issue so it makes sense if that was the editorial deadline as well.
For some time contest results articles have been published to the Web
some 4 to 6 weeks prior to their date of issue i.e. results appearing in
September QST are on the Web site now.
So it's likely that most of the delay that could have been attributed to
that 45 day lead has already been history for a while.
Other than an understandable reluctance to freeze changes well in
advance of the deadline for going to production, was there ever anything
standing in the way of early release of results?
73,
Mike K1MK
Michael Keane K1MK
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>From tavan at tibco.com Fri Jul 26 14:00:17 2002
From: tavan@tibco.com (Rick Tavan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <3D41AA51.2060701@tibco.com>
Bravo, Trey! Great proposal. Keep working with CQ and ARRL to accelerate
both online and paper publication. In business there is a truism that
the value of an incentive is inversely proportional to the time between
the period of performance and the reward. Faster publication will incent
the contesting community to do more, more often, and that will be good
for the sport.
/Rick N6XI
Trey Garlough wrote:
>Many years ago I had a dream that we would be able to operate contests
>and then see the final results immediately after the events were over.
>This will not be achievable if we rely on QST as a delivery mechanism.
>...
>If we eliminate #1 by publishing on the web and cut #2 from 30 to 15
>days, then I believe we can *tranquilly* release the complete final
>results of Sweepstakes within 30 days of the contest. ... Why wait until June
>to read the magazine when you can
>see the results on the web in December?
>
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>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 26 19:08:42 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
In-Reply-To: <02e001c234e3$0442c360$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIEMCDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
> In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> Tell me if
> I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the contest
> instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
>
>
No, it's not good enough.
I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a tad
more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now have,
15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves most of
that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal and
then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
Gary W2CS
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Fri Jul 26 17:09:30 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDEEEODLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Message-ID: <00de01c234f1$1d8ae600$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
>Maybe to encourage people to join the ARRL? Seems a reasonable goal since
>they are sponsoring the event...
A more reasonable goal would be to encourage more participation in contests.
I doubt if this is accomplished by penalizing non-ARRL entries. In some
contest I understand that now the DX logs account for 50% of the logs - many
or most of which are not the contestants are not ARRL members. (see
http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf ). They
are penalized by a 30 day policy that with holds results --- now really does
this inequity increase membership or encourage greater participation?
I kind doubt it. On the other hand I have heard a rumor that this inequity
is likely to disappear with the movement of line scores to the web. This
would be great news for the international contest community!
Now we wait and see :-)
.. sylvan
????
----------------
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Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 26 16:27:54 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <VA.00000008.00f44c39@gw3njw>
References: <5.1.0.14.1.20020725074143.00a7c830@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020726152010.00af88f0@pop3.eskimo.com>
There is no continental breakdown as yet but I don't know why
that couldn't be added. I'm sure the data is there. (Now's the
time to get what we want.)
For now, go into Section, select NON-USA (It's not obvious it's there
the first time) - then sort by section. You will have a country by
country breakdown. I recommend the Tab or Comma delimited download
(it's quick) so you can review all the results without paging.
73
dink
At 08:16 PM 7/26/2002 +0000, Clive Whelan wrote:
> However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
> going on-line in three short words.
>
>
> I like 'em.
>
Erm, am I being dense here, is there a way to separate the scores by
continent as there was in QST? That is invaluable.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
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>From K7LXC at aol.com Fri Jul 26 19:44:20 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Vertical Advice Needed
Message-ID: <91.2088e979.2a732ac4@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/26/02 11:35:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
pschipelliti@att.net writes:
> If you could put up either antenna, would you restore
> the GAP or the Butternut? I would really like to
> improve my 80 meter tx/rx so that may influence my
> choice.
>
> If you have knowledge or experience concerning these
> antennas, which would you install?
We have published an HF vertical on-the-air comparison report - it's
available from <A HREF="http://www.championradio.com";>www.championradio.com
</A> and includes both of the above antennas.
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
Champion Radio Products
>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Sat Jul 27 00:30:44 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20020725074143.00a7c830@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <VA.00000009.0013eed6@gw3njw>
> However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
> going on-line in three short words.
>
>
> I like 'em.
>
Erm, am I being dense here, is there a way to separate the scores by
continent as there was in QST? That is invaluable.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
Contest Cambria-http://www.gw7x.org
>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Sat Jul 27 01:04:56 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20020726152010.00af88f0@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <VA.0000000b.00333533@gw3njw>
> For now, go into Section, select NON-USA (It's not obvious it's there
> the first time) - then sort by section
>
Thanks, that's summat. Didn't even know there was a "NON-USA" section!
On my Cabrillo I have to put "DX" as a section, perhaps I can try that
too.
However, and I hope the league have the gains up, the Web version can
only be of real value if it can be broken down into continents. We have
a saying " don't throw the baby out with the bath water" ( perhaps you
do too; not sure) and this seems apposite to the current situation.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
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>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Sat Jul 27 01:04:50 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores
References: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIEMCDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <3D41E3A2.1D554FE5@directvinternet.com>
Something funny about this message. How can W2CS write both, which are
direct opposites of each other?
Assumming someone quoted someone incorrectly, I don't like the use of
the word "force" in regard to anyone. We've improved getting the final
results by 4 to 6 months. Why don't we get a little more input on how
long it takes remote DX stations to get their logs in?
Old saying, "In any change, make haste slowly"
73
Ed
Gary Ferdinand W2CS wrote:
>
> > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > Tell me if
> > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the contest
> > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> >
> >
>
> No, it's not good enough.
>
> I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a tad
> more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now have,
> 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves most of
> that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
>
> You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
> When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal and
> then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
>
> I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
>
> Gary W2CS
>From slazar19 at sgi.net Fri Jul 26 21:36:21 2002
From: slazar19@sgi.net (Spencer Lazar)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Good Grief
In-Reply-To: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDEEEODLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
References: <014c01c234b5$f3d3bca0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20020726203621.0083f700@mail.stargate.net>
Good Grief, two posting from K5ZD on the reflector within in a week,
what's this world coming to?
Randy, you must have too much time on your hands!
I suppose when real broad band gets here, computers will look
like radios and we will be contesting, except in the setups
we will selecting antennas, locations ect. ect. ect and most
importantly a level playing field. WRTC will be a dinosaur
of the past.
One thing I would like to see in contests is a class for vintage
radios, seperate tx/rx (vacuum tubes), knife switches and wire
antennas, computerless operating and the clacking of dowkey 110
vac relays with all the buzzing.
Spike W9XR
At 08:10 PM 7/26/02 -0000, you wrote:
>You said:
>> I have never understood the logic of encouraging everyone to enter
>contests and then
>> penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30 day waiting period.
>
>Maybe to encourage people to join the ARRL? Seems a reasonable goal since
>they are sponsoring the event...
>
>Randy, K5ZD
>From k2av at contesting.com Fri Jul 26 21:36:45 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
References: <4.2.0.58.20020726143124.009b82a0@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <006001c23505$af8801f0$0500a8c0@swift>
I understand the thought, but does it have a multiplier against it in
the significant range.
Do you know of ANY international business that uses real post to move
INFORMATION around. An international business that can't move it's
information electronically is very quickly a bankrupt business. If I
wanted to get a floppy to a friend in EU, I would email it.
GOODS move by post, not INFORMATION, not any more.
Think about it. Here's a guy that has a pc and a logging program
likely. Costs him a quid or worse to physically mail a floppy to the
US, or he can take the floppy to a friend's house, and email the file,
for free.
Stories are everywhere about how having the internet has allowed
out-back businesses to sell to the world. Where are these people you
are worried about precluding? Let them exercise some initiative and
creativity.
A big gun can't get his log right. And it's the log checker's
responsibility to fix it? And the fact it's a big gun makes his gorked
log more worthy than a little guy's?
If a robot bounces said gorked log, the big gun knows right away.
Cabrillo is new, but everybody is learning it. And the robot is
democratic. It bounces all gorked logs.
The first time that a big gun doesn't get the log in on time, and all
his operators lose their spot in the standings, will be the LAST time
the big gun doesn't get his log in on time. Boss man will never hear
the end of it. (It may be W3LPL in the listings, but the score belongs
to the TROOPS.)
People can handle it.
LETS MOVE ON.
73,
Guy, K2AV
----- Original Message -----
From: "David A. Pruett" <k8cc@comcast.net>
To: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>;
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
> Speaking as another logchecker, I agree totally with the comments
made by
> K4JRB. If we are going to have fifteen day log deadlines and thirty
days
> for results, then we're going to have to live with the following
realities:
>
> 1. Not enough time to guarantee arrival for overseas logs coming by
postal
> mail, whether on paper or floppy disk. I think that we here in
America
> take e-mail for granted and I for one am not willing to preclude
entries
> from stations who for whatever reason cannot electronically submit.
>
> 2. The entrant will have to be responsible for submitting a log in
the
> correct format. This is not a minor problem - in the 2001 ARRL 10M
> Contest, 200 of the 2100+ electronic logs had errors as submitted
which
> would have precluded them being included in the results, and many of
these
> were big guns. Most of these are cockpit errors, which tell me that
the
> fast majority of entrants never look at their log files before
mailing them
> in. In the case of the 10M contest, fixing these problem logs
(manual
> editing, requesting new logs) took over 30 man-hours. With the
compressed
> timetables being proposed, anything more than minor corrections will
go
> into the bit bucket.
>
> As Trey pointed out, the web site results could be updated for late
logs
> and corrections. However, if we allow for this what point is there
to
> publishing results after 30 days when the standings might change
after 40
> days? Furthermore, when is the cutoff to issue awards?
>
> My point here is that there is more to this that simply decided to
compress
> the timeframe. If you want fast, recognize that there will be more
> responsibility on you, the entrant if you want to be sure to make
the results.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave/K8CC
>
>
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>From k1ir at designet.com Fri Jul 26 21:42:57 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 15 days is not enough time
Message-ID: <wix08z5phfkjln4.260720022042@designet-jsi>
I agree that making time-to-published-results as short as possible is a great
goal. But, two weeks is too tight a restriction in too many circumstances.
DXpedition groups commonly spend the week following the contest on vacation
without internet access, leaving only one more weekend to get it done. Multi's
often have technical problems that make assembling the final log a challenge.
And, log submission by non-English speaking DX participants and novices who are
unfamiliar with contest software is not trivial. And there are those of us who
want to decompress and have nothing to do with the radio or the log for a while
after a big effort. So, I think a month is pretty reasonable.
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From n2mg at eham.net Fri Jul 26 22:52:59 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
References: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDEEEODLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
<00de01c234f1$1d8ae600$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <003801c23510$56cb2d20$3201a8c0@mikehome>
VE5ZX wrote:
> >Maybe to encourage people to join the ARRL? Seems a reasonable goal
since
> >they are sponsoring the event...
>
> A more reasonable goal would be to encourage more participation in
contests.
I don't think this is what makes a "membership" organization tick. ARRL
sponsors the contests precisely TO attract membership. They don't have
members so they can sponsor contests. In fact, there are plenty at HQ who
would rather not have contests at all.
> I doubt if this is accomplished by penalizing non-ARRL entries.
Since we're talking about lemonade, I'd say they don't penalize non-member
entries, but rather, they reward member entries.
I'm sure it's no small thorn in the ARRL's side that non-members expect to
be treated with the same respect that members are. Can't really fault the
League for that. And I really don't fault non-USA folks for not joining the
ARRL but I do fault them for expecting equal treatment (maybe that's the
American in me talking?). Sure, ARRL "needs" as many DX ops as possible to
operate in their contests in order to make the contests attractive enough
that folks will have fun - fun which will inspire some of these same folks
to become members. If they ever conclude that fun-contests does not equate
to new-members, bye-bye (ARRL sponsorship of) contests.
73 Mike N2MG
>From k1mk at arrl.net Fri Jul 26 23:41:57 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade
In-Reply-To: <20020726115252.12010.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.critic
alpath.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020726220631.0276d8e0@mail.peoplepc.com>
At 02:52 PM 7/26/02, Mike Gilmer - N2MG wrote:
>Suggesting the 30-to-15 day change only makes sense in
>the aftermath of the recent reduction in publishing
>leadtime enabled by the removal of line scores from
>QST. Make this suggestion 6 months ago, and 15 days
>would be virtually meaningless. Today, not so.
Nine months ago one could have made the suggestion that the final SS scores
be prepared and ready to go onto the Web site in mid-January rather than
waiting until mid-April when the results article was going to be needed by
the printer.
In that context a 30-to-15 day change would also have made sense. And it
would have raised the same issues now being brought up in regards to
accommodating paper logs and disks arriving via the mail and the loss of
schedule margin for dealing with anomalies.
73,
Mike K1MK
Michael Keane, K1MK
k1mk@alum.mit.edu
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 26 23:44:28 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207270224.g6R2O1hF032150@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <05da01c23517$89c05b40$03010a0a@office1>
Sorry Gary, but you and I will disagree with this one for now.
Considering the outcry last year when (under the dubious excuse of safety of
the mail) CQ Magazine forced all of us to enter only by electronic means, to
now propose to "force" contest entrants to rush in their logs and then
"force" the contest committee to rush compilation in another 2 weeks strikes
me as being too hasty.
Are we all so impatient that reducing the turn-around time between contest &
results from 6-8 months for the ARRL, and 8-10 months for CQ (just to pick
on two) to under 2 months isn't enough, but we're going to try to force-feed
it to 6 or even 4 weeks?
Remember, we're not dealing with a "closed" environment like the WRTC
competitions, where you have a relative small number of stations (50 or
less) competing for 24 hours. Compiling those results in a few hours is a
piece of cake. We're talking about 48 hour contests that literally involve
thousands, if not tens of thousands, of amateurs -- many of whom never have
or will send in logs, which always leave question marks about "uniques" and
"busted calls" and other potential problems to sort out.
Further, you must remember that in much of the world outside of North
America and Europe, Internet access is not as accessible nor as cheap as it
is here. I would not be at all surprised to learn that there are many
active contesters who have a computer in the shack, yet prefer to mail their
results in via a disk for whatever reasons.
I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
positive way to encourage more potential contesters. I think if we rise the
bar too high, we make the goal too difficult, it will do the exact opposite
by discouraging potential contesters and some of the active and less active
ones out there.
I also would question the ability to compile scores, even with automation,
in a day or two. Pending data to prove that one way or another, that
strikes me as being more than a bit optimistic. Can someone on one of the
major contest committees comment on whether or not automation makes one or
two days practical?
I am not saying that Trey's proposed 15 day deadline is a bad idea. But I
don't think we're quite ready for it yet. One thing at a time.
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
> In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> Tell me if
> I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the contest
> instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
>
>
No, it's not good enough.
I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a tad
more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now have,
15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves most of
that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal and
then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
Gary W2CS
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>From W1HIJCW at aol.com Sat Jul 27 00:16:02 2002
From: W1HIJCW@aol.com (W1HIJCW@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Vertical Advice Needed
Message-ID: <19b.5ed2d32.2a736a72@aol.com>
Dear Peter,
I don't have any experience with the GAP, but do have extensive experience
with the HF6V, the HF9V and the HF2V. I've installed and tuned probably 6 or
8 HF9's for various people, a few HF6's and at least 3 HF2's that I can
remember.
Recently when I moved, I had to make a choice about a multiband antenna that
would be a temporary solution until a tower, etc. could be installed. I chose
the HF6V to be roof mounted with the base at about 28 feet AGL. Why?
My experience was that with the Butternut antennas, I had the option of
optimizing the tuning on a band by band basis and found very little
interaction between bands that I could not eliminate. For example, my current
installation has a total of 5 radials. One is a non-resonant piece (50 feet
long) of 3 inch wide and 3 mil thick copper foil which runs for some 42 feet
along the ridge pole of the house, it then makes a right angle turn to go
down the roof for the remaining 8 feet. The other radials were "rough cut" to
be approximate 1/4 wavelengths on 40, 30, 20, and 10 meters. They are
arranged symmetrically around the base of the antenna.
The result, after tuning and adjusting the coils at the base of the HF6 was
that on all bands (except the extreme end of 10 meters) the SWR (measured at
the end of the series matching transformer with an MFJ 269, and by the SWR
meter in my FT1000D) was less than 2 to 1 and in most cases was less than 1.5
to 1. That allows me to run the setup without using the tuner in the "D" (or
in my FT990 for that matter).
Setup and tuning time once the antenna was assembled was less than 2 hours.
The antenna is mounted to a wooden chimney with Rat Shack wall mounts.
The HF6 and 9 do have a weak point which is the connection between the two
ends of the series matching transformer and the feedline and antenna
respectively. Butternut was kind enough to replace mine at no cost, but I
would suggest that you replace the PL259 on one end and the "stacons" or
other connectors on the other.
BTW, I bought an HF2V and took it with me to French Polynesia to use during
the 2001 CQ WPX CW contest. It was mounted directly in the lagoon in about 18
inches of water and fed with 150 feet of RG8X (1/3 of which laid in the water
for 10 days). Never have I had an antenna perform so well on 80 and 40.
Similarly, we took an HF2V to Puerto Rico for the recent effort in Field Day
as NP4A. It was beach mounted and had two elevated radials for 80 meters.
Similar results (although not as good as mounting in the water!) :>)
Hope these comments help a bit. As usual YMMV.
73 es GL de Bill, W1HIJ/6
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>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 27 01:49:41 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
In-Reply-To: <05da01c23517$89c05b40$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIEMHDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Ron, we agree on one point. We disagree with each other -HI. Although I
like the "for now" part :-) To your points:
1. Outcry: People hate change. We live with it and move on. This is no
different.
2. Yup, I'm that impatient. The technology exists. We should set a good
goal.
3. Uniques: Yup. There will always be question marks. Do the best we can.
4. Rest of world: I don't think it's the problem you and a few others
have voiced. I know of several stations that are rare that are club
stations. Internet access is not a problem. We're not always talking about
individual stations in some primitive, isolated area. Those are more likely
DXpeditions and my cruise ship analogy applies.
5. Encouraging others: I think "immediate" results-reporting provides
substantial encouragement. It's the immediate feedback or reward that
others have more lucidly described than I to which I refer. I agree with
those sentiments.
Good discussion, this. Whether it's 4 weeks, 6 or 8, in the end it's a
great improvement. I think we should do what we can to aim for 4 weeks with
a 15 day turn-in requirement, as Trey proposed. If we end up having to
delay it a bit with a contest or two for good reason, I doubt you'd hear
many complaints! (Hmm, well not from me anyway.)
Bedtime. 73 all.
Gary W2CS
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ron Notarius WN3VAW
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 10:44 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
> scores decision)
>
>
> Sorry Gary, but you and I will disagree with this one for now.
>
> Considering the outcry last year when (under the dubious excuse
> of safety of
> the mail) CQ Magazine forced all of us to enter only by
> electronic means, to
> now propose to "force" contest entrants to rush in their logs and then
> "force" the contest committee to rush compilation in another 2
> weeks strikes
> me as being too hasty.
>
> Are we all so impatient that reducing the turn-around time
> between contest &
> results from 6-8 months for the ARRL, and 8-10 months for CQ (just to pick
> on two) to under 2 months isn't enough, but we're going to try to
> force-feed
> it to 6 or even 4 weeks?
>
> Remember, we're not dealing with a "closed" environment like the WRTC
> competitions, where you have a relative small number of stations (50 or
> less) competing for 24 hours. Compiling those results in a few hours is a
> piece of cake. We're talking about 48 hour contests that
> literally involve
> thousands, if not tens of thousands, of amateurs -- many of whom
> never have
> or will send in logs, which always leave question marks about
> "uniques" and
> "busted calls" and other potential problems to sort out.
>
> Further, you must remember that in much of the world outside of North
> America and Europe, Internet access is not as accessible nor as
> cheap as it
> is here. I would not be at all surprised to learn that there are many
> active contesters who have a computer in the shack, yet prefer to
> mail their
> results in via a disk for whatever reasons.
>
> I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
> positive way to encourage more potential contesters. I think if
> we rise the
> bar too high, we make the goal too difficult, it will do the
> exact opposite
> by discouraging potential contesters and some of the active and
> less active
> ones out there.
>
> I also would question the ability to compile scores, even with automation,
> in a day or two. Pending data to prove that one way or another, that
> strikes me as being more than a bit optimistic. Can someone on one of the
> major contest committees comment on whether or not automation makes one or
> two days practical?
>
> I am not saying that Trey's proposed 15 day deadline is a bad idea. But I
> don't think we're quite ready for it yet. One thing at a time.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the
> hypocrisies of our
> time?" -- Howard Beale
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
> decision)
>
> > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > Tell me if
> > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after
> the contest
> > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> >
> >
>
> No, it's not good enough.
>
> I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all
> to be a tad
> more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation
> we now have,
> 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It
> leaves most of
> that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
>
> You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
> When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely
> difficult goal and
> then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
>
> I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
>
> Gary W2CS
>
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>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Sat Jul 27 02:05:11 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Recruiting 101
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207270041390.22765-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
I'm now involved with recruiting members for next weekend's NAQP CW
contest. I'm having some success recently recruiting people to operate
the CW Sprint and NAQP contests, and thought I might pass on some hints in
hopes that other clubs will also have success recruiting members for
contests.
1) Announce your intentions here on CQ-Contest and club mail reflectors.
Normally I find this to be mildly successful. Be sure to mention that you
are not just looking for serious operators... that you are fielding teams
of part-timer ops too.
2) The best technique I have found is contacting each person directly by
e-mail personally. I follow the same method as is #1 and normally put in
some kind of note about us trying to show up some other club or something
else that we can all get our heads around.
3) Finding Members. I first look at old results for the contest in
question. Then I move to other contests. For instance, I've had really
good luck this time recruiting guys that operate the ARRL 160 and 10 meter
contests as well as CW SS. The results are on the web, and almost
everyone has an email address that can easily be had on eHam.net or
QRZ.com. These are also contests that are more domestic in nature, which
is right up the alley of the NAQP.
4) Finding More Members. Team work! I ask everyone on our teams to
recruit just one other person to be a member of the teams. This has
worked very well in the past, as there is no way I can know every
potential operator in the 4th call area.
5) Organization. I'm now keeping everyone's callsign, name, etc, in a
database so I can quickly refer to it the next running of the contest.
6) Post cards. Some of the Sprint regulars have recently taken up writing
potential operators post cards in an effort to remind them of a contest.
I personally find email with the expressed intent of joining a team is
more effective.
7) Team placement competition. Back in the early 80s there was this
phenom called the Midwest Popguns organzied by Joe (W8LNO) and Tom
(N0SS) for the CW Sprint. Team placement was based on your finish in the
prior contest. The Popguns fieleded several teams, and I recall being
highly motivated to move from team last to team next. We are just
starting with this here in W4 for next month's Sprint.
So far I have 22 guys signed up for next weekend. The TCG and FCG are
also fielding at least 2 teams each. I figure we'll have more than 50
guys from W4 active to some degree or another! Now think how much fun the
contest would be if this could be nearly duplicated across 10 call areas!
73
Bill, W4AN
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 27 02:06:20 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores
In-Reply-To: <3D41E3A2.1D554FE5@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFAEMIDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Ed,
I think you're attributing the first part of your quoted text to me, which
is incorrect. That was the text that my posting was in reference to. Note
that first paragraph as an extra set of ">" symbols in front of it.
It is common practice on the internet to include a piece of the posting to
which you're replying so that readers of your reply have a context. It
would appear, Ed, that you have misinterpreted this context material, to
which I was replying, as my own text.
Rather, I was writing in rebuttal.
As to making haste slowly in any change...gosh, that saying must be
pre-high-tech age. I can't imagine any company with serious competition in
today's markets having such a philosophy; they'd be out of business with
much haste. My mindset is influenced by that, I'm afraid. So I tend to try
to accomplish a difficult goal, risking some degree of failure, rather than
achieve a comfortable goal, and risk achieving mediocrity, instead. A
matter of perspective.
An old saying: "He who hesitates is lost."
So much for ancient pithy proverbs :)
73,
Gary W2CS
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of K4SB
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 8:05 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores
>
>
> Something funny about this message. How can W2CS write both, which are
> direct opposites of each other?
>
> Assumming someone quoted someone incorrectly, I don't like the use of
> the word "force" in regard to anyone. We've improved getting the final
> results by 4 to 6 months. Why don't we get a little more input on how
> long it takes remote DX stations to get their logs in?
>
> Old saying, "In any change, make haste slowly"
>
> 73
> Ed
>
> Gary Ferdinand W2CS wrote:
> >
> > > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to
> assemble and
> > > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > > Tell me if
> > > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months
> after the contest
> > > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > No, it's not good enough.
> >
> > I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> > entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all
> to be a tad
> > more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation
> we now have,
> > 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> > that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It
> leaves most of
> > that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
> >
> > You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on
> it later.
> > When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely
> difficult goal and
> > then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
> >
> > I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
> >
> > Gary W2CS
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>From kl7y at alaska.net Sat Jul 27 07:33:28 2002
From: kl7y@alaska.net (Dan Robbins)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 15 days too short
Message-ID: <3D4230A8.37A901E3@alaska.net>
I'm glad that so many think 15 days is long enough, but we don't need a
duration that covers the requirements of most of the contesters, we need
one that covers ALL contesters. I've had to ask for two extensions in
the last several years and that's with existing 30 day log submission
deadlines. It wasn't too long ago I helped a first time contest entrant
unscramble a log - just in time to beat the 30 day deadline. 30 days is
just fine, leave it alone.
Dan KL7Y
>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 27 01:27:49 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
References: <200207270224.g6R2O1hF032150@contesting.com>
<05da01c23517$89c05b40$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <001d01c2353f$1f5b8ae0$7c6f7e42@sbcglobal.net>
I guess I agree with Ron:
Even if we can maybe hasten the time to the final results, What's the Big
Rush? Its worked so well for so many years, why do we now think it's
broken?
Just because many things in our lives CAN and DO go faster, does everything
have to?
For many years, the speed limit was 55 MPH. Then they cranked it back up to
65, and in some places even 70. Now, if you're not doing at least 80 on the
91 Freeway, hey buddy, get out of the way. Does that make our lives
necessarily "better"?
I recall when I was thrilled with my first computer, humming along at a nice
16 MHz. Now I'm wondering if my new 1.3 GHz notebook is fast enough? Give
me a break, please..........
Everything today is about speed, speed, speed. Even when driving in Italy
or Germany, do I take a relaxed tour @ 100 km/hour so I might actually SEE
some of the beautiful countryside? Nah, I've got to try and COMPETE with
the locals, and crank it up to 200 km/hr (at least). Is my quality of life
better by doing so? I think not. It's just dumb, dumb, dumb.
Now we're led to believe, we can't live without INSTANTANEOUS GRATIFICATION
on our contest victory?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But it's very thoughtful of The Kid (as
Trey is known around this household) to worry that we old guys may not be
around long enough for the final results.
The meaningfulness of the answer, for me, far exceeds the quest for
expediency, in this case.
Vy 73
Jim Neiger
N6TJ
>
> Considering the outcry last year when (under the dubious excuse of safety
of
> the mail) CQ Magazine forced all of us to enter only by electronic means,
to
> now propose to "force" contest entrants to rush in their logs and then
> "force" the contest committee to rush compilation in another 2 weeks
strikes
> me as being too hasty.
>
> Are we all so impatient that reducing the turn-around time between contest
&
> results from 6-8 months for the ARRL, and 8-10 months for CQ (just to pick
> on two) to under 2 months isn't enough, but we're going to try to
force-feed
> it to 6 or even 4 weeks?
>
> Remember, we're not dealing with a "closed" environment like the WRTC
> competitions, where you have a relative small number of stations (50 or
> less) competing for 24 hours. Compiling those results in a few hours is a
> piece of cake. We're talking about 48 hour contests that literally
involve
> thousands, if not tens of thousands, of amateurs -- many of whom never
have
> or will send in logs, which always leave question marks about "uniques"
and
> "busted calls" and other potential problems to sort out.
>
> Further, you must remember that in much of the world outside of North
> America and Europe, Internet access is not as accessible nor as cheap as
it
> is here. I would not be at all surprised to learn that there are many
> active contesters who have a computer in the shack, yet prefer to mail
their
> results in via a disk for whatever reasons.
>
> I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
> positive way to encourage more potential contesters. I think if we rise
the
> bar too high, we make the goal too difficult, it will do the exact
opposite
> by discouraging potential contesters and some of the active and less
active
> ones out there.
>
> I also would question the ability to compile scores, even with automation,
> in a day or two. Pending data to prove that one way or another, that
> strikes me as being more than a bit optimistic. Can someone on one of the
> major contest committees comment on whether or not automation makes one or
> two days practical?
>
> I am not saying that Trey's proposed 15 day deadline is a bad idea. But I
> don't think we're quite ready for it yet. One thing at a time.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of
our
> time?" -- Howard Beale
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
> decision)
>
> > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > Tell me if
> > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the
contest
> > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> >
> >
>
> No, it's not good enough.
>
> I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a
tad
> more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now
have,
> 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves most
of
> that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
>
> You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
> When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal
and
> then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
>
> I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
>
> Gary W2CS
>
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>From g4buo at compuserve.com Sat Jul 27 07:01:00 2002
From: g4buo@compuserve.com (Dave Lawley)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Log Checking
Message-ID: <200207270601_MC3-1-848-E994@compuserve.com>
This sort of statement worries me:
>I just finished the SSB logs except for three problem logs and it took a
> full two weeks working several hours a day. With 100% cabrillo I could
have
> checked the logs in a day and 70% of that is set up!. I now face a month
of
> grinding through the CW logs. Get the log in proper format and the
programs
> will do the rest!<
My understanding was that, for CQWW contests at least, the
computer does NOT automatically apply any penalties. It
produces a list of potential errors and these are reviewed
by real people who decide whether they really are errors
and whether a penalty should apply. Have things changed,
such that the computer now automatically applies the penalty?
If not, I can't see how the logs can be checked in a day. Sure,
the results for WRTC were produced in a day but there were
only 52 entries, all (presumably) conforming to the specified
log format, and a team led by K1ZZ/G3SXW stayed up all
night manually reviewing the potential errors identified by
the computer log checking process.
Dave G4BUO
>From n2mg at eham.net Sat Jul 27 08:45:05 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020726220631.0276d8e0@mail.peoplepc.com>
Message-ID: <002f01c23563$0d65b940$3201a8c0@mikehome>
K1MK wrote:
> Nine months ago one could have made the suggestion that the final SS
scores
> be prepared and ready to go onto the Web site in mid-January rather than
> waiting until mid-April when the results article was going to be needed by
> the printer.
Sure, technically it seems possible, but the web was considered as a
secondary vehicle for the publication of scores. This is clearly no longer
the case. (Also, I can *imagine* some stir caused by publishing the scores
on the web - and the "members only" or not issue - that much earlier than in
the magazine._
The ARRL moves naturally slowly. There are a lot of folks' opinions to
gather into a consensus (of sorts). Regardless of all the evil conspiracy
theories, I'll bet it took a lot of gnashing of teeth to dump the line
scores. (Hell, this reflector caused some that!)
The door is open now. Personally I'd like to see rather comprehensive
changes implemented. Get it all over at once. Otherwise every year one
would have to read the rules (not a bad idea actually) to see what the dang
League has changed with the submission criteria again.
1) no line scores in QST
2) forced Cabrillo
3) short deadline
4) results out in December
OK..."forced Cabrillo" bothers me somewhat...but NOT for SS (I think those
Carib guys *should* sweat a little! ;-) )
Even so, I feel mandatory Cabrillo looms. If there's something we in the US
can offer to our alleged "poor overseas bretheren with no email access" in
terms of a process to help them out, now might be the time...
Mike N2MG
>From k1ir at designet.com Sat Jul 27 09:26:37 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
Message-ID: <t83ad26ssmyfq07.270720020826@designet-jsi>
WN3VAW said:
>I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
positive way to encourage more potential contesters.<
Thank heaven somebody finally said something a little bit strategic! This is
the first hint of forward thinking that I've heard in this entire conversation.
Talking about a 15 day change in the results schedule seems to be an empty
effort when the implications of this change are much more far-reaching.
Over the past six months, about thirty-five of us got together and contributed
to a major proposal about ARRL contest coverage which was submitted to the ARRL
BoD just before their meeting. I didn't expect to get an official reaction from
HQ right away, but I did expect to hear some reaction and conversation about
the proposal here on the reflector.
Maybe it was too much trouble to click on one of the links in my previous
message:
PDF version: http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
or
HTML version: http://www.designet.com/k1ir/ContestCoverageProposal_071702.htm
So, I'll attach it here. Unfortunately, the formatting of the charts won't make
it through the reflector, so you'll have to look at one of the original
documents if you are interested in those.
Honestly, I am quite disappointed. I was really hoping that you'd take a look
at the hard work done by your peers and engage the subject fully.
Here are a few points and questions to get you thinking:
1. The group concluded that contest coverage in QST is really lacking, and that
the pages remaining after line scores are removed should be used much more
creatively. Ideas have been presented. Which do you like/hate?
2. While the web is now being used to effectively present contest results,
there is still a need for a more permanent record and for hardcopy. How do we
do both?
3. The web is much more appropriate for conveying the contesting "experience."
We can do it with sound, graphics and video. It can be stored. It can be live.
How can we get this done?
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
*********** Forwarded Proposal ***********
Contest Coverage Working Group
Guidelines and Proposals
2 July 2002
INTRODUCTION
Lead Author ? Jim Idelson, K1IR
Approach
The Working Group has developed three interrelated proposals and this overview
document, which addresses the process and integrates the component proposals.
The proposals are:
Proposal #1: General Guidelines for Allocating Material between Print and
Electronic Media
Proposal #2: New Ideas for Contest-Specific and General Contesting Material
Proposal #3: New Ideas for On-Line Contest-Specific Data
The goal of these proposals is to serve as a vehicle for defining broad-based
understandings of what is and is not desirable, as well as to present new ideas
for coverage. All three are intended to undergo continual revision as new ideas
are encountered.
The guidelines and proposals presented in this document are not intended to
address questions such as: the proper balance between contest and non-contest
content in any particular medium; what constitutes an adequate number of pages;
or how much contest related content is appropriate in a general readership
publication such as QST.
Background
In 2001, faced with the prospects of operating deficits for the next several
years, the ARRL Board's Administration & Finance Committee requested staff
identify areas of potential cost reduction. ARRL management's response included
a plan for publishing QST with fewer pages of editorial content per issue. One
element of this plan would eliminate contest line scores from QST, to be
replaced by Web-based line scores. News of this proposal immediately sparked a
series of reactions from the contesting community expressing concern that
contesting's presence in QST would be diminished to a damaging degree.
The strength and breadth of feeling in the contest community regarding the
proposed changes was reflected in the 18 January 2002 joint statement and
request of U.S. contest clubs addressed to the ARRL Board of Directors and
signed by the presidents of twelve ARRL-affiliated contest clubs. Following
through on the contest club presidents? proposal, concerned contesters from
across the U.S. and Canada have joined forces to form the ad hoc ARRL Contest
Coverage Working Group. This group is engaging the issues in a pragmatic and
constructive manner ? assisting the ARRL staff to find ways of utilizing the
limited number of QST pages allocated to reporting contest results in concert
with alternative electronic media to obtain the best possible distribution of
contest coverage.
New Technology, New Opportunities
QST, NCJ, CQ and the recently demised CQ-Contest magazines have long been the
primary outlets for contest reporting in the U.S. Due to limited print space,
the reporting is of necessity rather restricted and has converged on an
abbreviated format of summary, limited breakdowns, top scores, line scores, and
a small amount of background information on or from individual competitors.
Web pages and email-distributed newsletters, which have extremely low
distribution costs, have become new outlets for this material. Because of their
low cost, constraints on the volume of material have essentially been removed.
This allows expansion of many elements of contest coverage beyond what any
print medium could afford. In addition, electronic distribution generally is
much more timely than print, enabling multiple editions and frequent updates of
material. It is expected that the current levels of quality and quality control
for published material would be met or exceeded, regardless of media.
Electronic media can also go beyond print media in bringing new dimensions of
contest coverage and information to the audience. With database technology,
contest logs can be sorted and filtered to meet any imaginable data analysis
need. Using audio and video technologies, we can now convey more than basic
reports on contesting; we can truly convey the experience of contesting.
HIGH-LEVEL CONCERNS
A number of important points emerged from the discussion, and these points cut
across all forms of contest coverage. They are summarized below:
Visibility
One of the most commonly raised issues regarding a shift of line scores from
QST to the Web is the reduced visibility of the contesting community to the
broader amateur community, especially to casual participants and potential
newcomers. It is strongly felt that the acknowledgement from publishing scores
and calls, no matter how small the score, serves to attract and encourage
entry-level contesters to the sport.
Contesters at all levels have always been honored to see their call signs and
performance in the ?bright lights? of QST. With great pride, they like to refer
other hams to the magazine and show the magazine to their non-ham friends and
family. There are widely held concerns over the loss of such high-level
visibility should scores be moved to the Web.
Opportunities for Visibility:
Include contest results announcements in the general news section of
www.arrl.org with links to full coverage
Use visual cues (highlighted links, graphics, or pop-up windows) to entice
?surfers? to visit contest coverage
Capture information about those who visit contest sections of the Website and
solicit them with opportunities to see more coverage
Use the log submission mechanics to obtain email addresses to which results may
be sent automatically.
Continue to provide contest report articles in the ?traditional? style,
including line scores, via an electronic medium.
Connectivity
Recognizing that various print and electronic media will continue to exist
separately, and that there will not be a complete duplication of content in the
various media, every effort must be made to provide many references among the
different coverage vehicles. This implies many links in the electronic media,
and many references to Web and email from the print media. For example, QST
coverage of contests should push readers towards Web-based coverage and
describe the expanded coverage options available.
Opportunities for Connectivity:
Every printed article should contain numerous and clear references to relevant
electronic media.
Many active links between electronic media presentations should be introduced
and maintained.
Cross-references from print media to electronic should not be limited to QST.
All ARRL publications should cross-reference relevant electronic media.
Ease of Use
As electronic outlets for contest coverage are increasingly employed, it is
important to ensure that those who wish to view the content have an easy and
attractive way to navigate amongst the many types and sources of information
that will be available. The approach to Website navigation and use of email
will be an important part of the electronic media design.
Suggestions for Ease of Use:
Focus design on accessing all aspects of each contest from a single place ? a
contest home page for each contest. Include access to rules, announcements,
current and historical results, discussions, Soapbox, etc ? all from a single
home page.
Avoid grouping of information by ?type?. For example, listing Soapbox links for
all contests is not particularly useful, since few if any individual contesters
will be interested in all contests.
Beyond the Written Word
The real secret to a successful shift from printed media to the Web is in
taking advantage of the capabilities that are unique to electronic media. If
use of the Web is restricted to duplicating the same kinds of material that
would previously have been presented in magazines ? then the transition to
electronic media will not be as swift and powerful. Implementations using
electronic media to recreate and convey the excitement of the contesting
experience will make it impossible for this new approach to fail.
Opportunities for Going Beyond the Written Word:
Provide data in downloadable format wherever possible
Add audio and video to the types of information available
Include audio and video interviews with the winners and other entrants with
something of interest to contribute
Allow viewers to add data or audio/video to the available material
Accessibility
Access to electronic media distributed via the Internet is good and continues
to improve. Even so, Internet access remains far from universal. In 2000, the
U.S. Census Bureau reported that 51% of U.S. households had a computer and
41.5% of households had access to the Internet. Neither percentage depended
strongly on age group for adults in the range of 18?65 years old. The rates of
computer ownership and Internet access both increase sharply with greater
household income and higher levels of education.
Access to the broadband Internet connections, necessary for realizing the full
potential of powerful multi-media technologies such as video, is rapidly
improving as well. The FCC reports that 7.0% of U.S. households were subscribed
to high-speed Internet services as of July 2001, up from 4.7% in January 2001,
and 1.6% in July 2000.
Focusing specifically on the amateur community, a recent survey commissioned by
the ARRL concluded that 89% of its members had Internet access although only
51% of the ARRL membership had registered as users of the ARRL members-only Web
site by October 2001. The number of electronic versus the number of paper logs
received by both the ARRL Contest Branch and the CQWW Committee suggest that
the contesting community already is highly ?wired.?
Suggestions for Accessibility:
Print copies of unabridged contest announcements including the detailed rules
and ?traditional? contest report articles including line scores should be
available for those members who lack Internet access.
Content produced for electronic distribution should also be published on
high-density, archival quality media, e.g. CD-ROM and DVD.
Thinking Globally
Contesters outside of the U.S. constitute a sizeable fraction of today's
contesting community. Anyone holding to the narrow view that ARRL sponsored
contests are solely parochial affairs of interest to an exclusively U.S. (or
North American) audience is in error. Non-U.S. stations submitted 50% of the
logs received for the 2000 ARRL 10-Meter Contest; 55% of the logs for the 2001
ARRL International DX Contest; and 70% of the logs for the 2001 IARU HF World
Championships. In 2000, DX stations accounted for one-third of the 16,000
contest logs processed by the ARRL Contest Branch and one-third of the scores
printed in QST.
Clearly, active contesters exist in substantial numbers around the world yet
they represent a virtually untapped market distinct from the ARRL?s traditional
membership base. Like their U.S. counterparts, many international contesters
are enthusiastic and excited about the prospects for expanded and enhanced
contest coverage being discussed. And they share an interest in viewing such
coverage.
Historically, the costs of reaching a worldwide market using print have been
prohibitive, keeping demand to an absolute minimum. NCJ is not marketed outside
USA/Canada yet much of its content is relevant to contesters worldwide. The
very low distribution costs of electronic media now permit existing content and
expanded coverage to efficiently reach a global audience.
Suggestions for Connecting with A Global Audience:
The ARRL offer non-U.S. contesters access to the expanded and enhanced contest
coverage on the ARRL Web site; possibly in exchange for payment of an
appropriate fee.
Use e-mail addresses harvested from log submittals for the targeted marketing
of expanded contest coverage, NCJ, membership, etc.
Feature contests sponsored by sister IARU societies in reciprocity for similar
exposure given to ARRL contests.
Comb international sources for content. Acquire English language rights to the
best contest related content being produced worldwide.
Cultivate international distribution channels and develop foreign language
outlets for ARRL contest coverage.
Line Scores
At present, line scores are the largest individual component of contest
coverage, occupying half the pages of contest reports in QST. Faced with
falling page counts and shrinking publication budgets but growing
participation, we are forced to confront a nasty dilemma. Either continued
publication of line scores displaces all other aspects of contest coverage from
the pages of QST with contest reports being reduced to a listing of scores and
call signs. Or the contest related content that is best suited for distribution
to a broad audience remains in QST with line scores relocated to the Web.
The guidelines in Proposal #1 are intended to be used as an aide when
considering the optimal utilization of scarce resources. Several types of
content are judged by the Working Group as being better suited than line scores
for occupying a limited number of QST pages (see Table 1 in Proposal #1). If
the ARRL Board of Directors makes the determination to cut deeply into the
number of QST pages available for reporting contest results, an application of
these guidelines would lead
one to conclude that the least undesirable alternative is relocating line
scores to the Web. By using linkages and references, readership can be guided
to the electronic media where line scores would be published in full and
possibly even in expanded form, as the 2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes results
show.
PROPOSAL #1 ? Allocation of Coverage to Print and Electronic Media
Lead Author ? Ward Silver, NØAX
Contributing Authors ? Michael Keane, K1MK and Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Scope
This proposal addresses the general question of how to allocate the relative
proportions of contest coverage between print and electronic media. No
distinction is made between the different forms of either media (i.e. ?
magazine vs. newsletter or Web page vs. email). No attempt is made to specify
the details of coverage content or to rank the most valuable, most desirable or
most enjoyable content.
Purpose
The purpose is to develop a set of general guidelines to provide guidance to
publishers for developing and distributing contest coverage material. Also, it
may serve to encourage discussion about the development of new types and forms
of material.
Background
Currently, print media is the primary form for distributing contest information
and results to the amateur radio community. Electronic media, however, is
rapidly becoming an accepted norm for distributing this type of information due
to its cost advantages, timeliness and increasing public acceptance. The
question has become not if, but when and how much contest information should be
made available electronically.
In this rapidly changing environment, it is important that publishers and
readers have a good sense of each other?s needs. This document attempts to
provide information on the general types of contest coverage and the
suitability of distributing each type of content in print or electronic form.
Print media is discussed as either General or Specialty. General refers to
media dealing with the full spectrum of ham radio, such as QST. Specialty
refers to publications aimed at contesters such as NCJ.
Electronic media is discussed as either Push or Pull. Push refers to actively
distributed formats, in which information is delivered to the consumer at the
initiative of the publisher ? the publisher is the active party. Examples of
push media include newsletters (email or print), bulletins and broadcasts.
Pull refers to passive sources of information, in which information is accessed
or retrieved from the publisher at the initiative of the consumer ? the reader
is the active party. Examples of pull media include web pages, bulletin boards,
ftp sites, books, CD-ROMs and libraries.
Coverage
Contest announcements and results should be available in printed and digital
media. An announcement is any advance notice that provides information as the
time, rules, awards, etc., about a specific contest. The results include
information describing any aspect of the contest that is distributed after the
contest.
Table 1 shows the relative suitability of using each of these media to
distribute specific announcement and results content; i.e. ? Is the medium the
one best suited to distribute this type of information to the target audience?
The suitability of each content type is rated as high, limited or low. The
ratings attempt to account for all aspects of the medium including cost,
quality, readership, archival, timeliness, etc. The ratings are defined as
follows:
High ? the medium is well suited to both the information and the
target audience.
Limited ? the medium is not the best method for distribution of the
information to the target audience.
Low ? the medium is poorly suited to the information, the target
audience or both; distribution of the information via this medium may be
inefficient, untimely or costly
Table 1 ? General Allocation Guidelines
OMITTED DUE TO FORMATTING PROBLEMS
PROPOSAL #2 ? New Ideas for Contest-Specific and General Contesting Material
Lead Author ? Brian D. Smith W9IND
Contributing Authors ?Ward Silver NØAX, Gary Breed K9AY
Scope
This proposal discusses existing contest print coverage. New ideas for coverage
are presented, both for print and electronic media. Details of implementation
are not addressed, neither is the allocation of coverage between types of
media.
Purpose
The purpose of this proposal is to:
Assess and critique current contest coverage in the print media.
Suggest how to improve coverage in both print and electronic media.
Contribute new ideas for coverage in multiple media.
Background
The ARRL Staff responsible for publishing a QST having fewer pages per issue
has proposed to allocate the limited resources available for reporting contest
results in ways that are appropriate for a general-readership, monthly
magazine. This, they believe, would save money and create more space for
articles of greater general interest.
The following proposal deals mainly with the latter objective. As stated in
Point 5 of the ?Joint Statement and Request of U.S. Contest Clubs on the
Proposal to Eliminate Detailed Contest Results from QST,? the coalition of
ARRL-affiliated contest clubs intends to assist QST in ?making such coverage
more attractive and interesting to a much wider audience than has been the case
to date.?
In striving to attain this goal, the lead author has drawn from about a quarter
century of professional journalism experience as a magazine editor, newspaper
reporter and freelance writer. The approach of this proposal is neither complex
nor radical; it simply suggests journalistic techniques and angles
traditionally used in the creation of newspaper and magazine feature stories,
newswriting and sportswriting. These approaches are not unknown to QST, but
perhaps by utilizing them more often, the magazine would enhance its contest
coverage.
Critique of Existing Coverage
QST?s current coverage includes the calls and scores of every entrant, and in
this respect, its articles could not be more thorough for anyone seeking such
information. The lead-in text that precedes the contest results is often
concise, matter-of-fact and esoteric, and perhaps more interesting to hard-core
contesters than the average ham. As long as this is true, QST may find it
difficult to justify devoting so much space to contest coverage.
Possible Alternatives
QST could revamp the format of the coverage so that (1) the articles are more
interesting to non-contesters and (2) hams with little contesting experience
are encouraged to get in the game.
General Interest Coverage
One alternative is to make the coverage more like a ?game story? found on a
sports page. For instance, rather than covering a contest from the standpoint
of final scores (?Club ABC got 7.4 million points in the multi-multi category
to edge Club XYZ, which scored 7.2 million?) ? as is typically done in QST ?
the magazine could approach it from a ?you are there? angle: ?Club ABC?s
contest effort almost ended before it began. Only three hours before the start
of the ARRL DX Contest, a severe thunderstorm packing 70 mph winds sent their
tallest antenna tumbling and the entire club scrambling. But a nifty bit of
improvisation put the station back on the air only 12 minutes before midnight
in Greenwich ?,? etc. Stories like these would have universal appeal,
regardless of whether the average reader cared deeply about contesting.
How to round up such information? The contest page on the ARRL Web site already
has a Soapbox, in which contesters can post their impressions, complaints,
reminiscences, anecdotes, etc., regarding each contest. All that?s needed is to
set up a similar Web site and inform contestants that QST is looking for any
good stories from the contest. Or the magazine could invite them to e-mail this
information. The author of the story could then scan the contributed copy for
the best tales. Many quotes could be lifted directly from the posts or e-mails,
and further information could be gathered via follow-up e-mail, landline and/or
even an on-air sked.
New Approaches
Looking more closely at newspaper sports sections, we find further inspiration
and possibilities. We see that not everything on every page is a game story:
There are also feature stories, profiles, personal columns and ?pre-games?
(stories previewing important games and events ? for instance, ?The Los Angeles
Lakers may face their toughest challenge of the year when the Dallas Mavericks
come to town Friday ??). The same elements and techniques that sustain sports
pages across America could be employed in contesting coverage.
Feature stories, a broad category, might include topics such as ?How our club
prepares for a multi-multi event? ? everything from how to recruit and schedule
operators to what food and drink to keep in the fridge. There could be
discussions of contesting tips and techniques: ?What to do when a solar flare
zaps the HF bands in the middle of a contest.?
Profiles could run the gamut ? from the 88-year-old guy who organized the first
ARRL Whatever Contest to the club that?s won the last 10 CQWW multi-multi
titles.
Personal columns could also include a broad range of topics, from serious to
humorous (?WPX: For once in my life, I?m as rare as Mongolia? by WY9A ? or ?How
contesting enabled me to finally achieve DXCC?).
?Pre-games? would supplement the traditional pre-contest coverage, which
typically consists of a long list of rules and regulation. Such information is
valuable to veteran contesters, but complicated and potentially off-putting to
beginners. Naturally, no one wants to embarrass himself on the air, so many
hams who might enjoy contesting may instead decide to forgo the contest rather
than risk ridicule.
Attracting Newcomers
Contesters are often viewed by non-contesters as insular and cliquish (not to
mention pushy). Undoubtedly, some contesters are less than courteous in the
heat of the battle. But as every contester knows, great scores depend on great
participation. We need the newcomers ? as many as we can get. So how to make
them feel welcome?
QST and several Web sites publish information on upcoming contests, but the
rules may seem overly complex to the uninitiated. A better alternative might
involve creating what?s known in the journalism business as a sidebar. USA
Today is fond of sidebars ? read a story about Barry Bonds? current home run
total and you might also see a sidebar about ?Most home runs in April ?
all-time bests,? etc. Read any newspaper travel story and you?ll often find a
sidebar that summarizes the key information: ?Destination: Louisville,
Kentucky. Major tourist attractions: Located on the Ohio River, home of
Churchill Downs ?? etc.
It is this user-friendly format ? the sidebar, which would accompany the
?pre-game? write-up ? that would work best in attracting newcomers to
contesting. Instead of having to wade through a plethora of technical data, a
rookie contester could simply glance at the sidebar and learn instantly what
the contest was about and how to participate in it, even if he or she had only
a couple of hours to do so.
Here?s how it might work (?Announced DXpeditions? might lure non-contesting
DXers who are chasing DXCC and other awards):
Contest: ARRL International DX Contest
How to participate: Get on any of the HF bands except the WARC bands. If you?re
in the United States or Canada, you can?t work any station in either country ?
look for DX stations only. For DX stations, the same applies in reverse.
What to say: Give a signal report and your state (for Americans), province (for
Canadians) or power in watts (DX stations).
Announced DXpeditions: HKØHAM, San Andes Island, CT3QRP, Madeira Islands, etc.
Quirks: Split operation on 40 because DX stations are assigned to different
frequencies, etc.
Best reason to participate: You can attain DXCC in one weekend.
Relative challenge: Easy for all. (Note: An EME contest would obviously get a
different answer.)
Web links: http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2002/intldx.html
Records: Yet another way to increase interest in contesting is to stoke hams?
competitive fires. How to do that? Create a Web site that provides easy access
to every record in every major contest. A good reference for records would list
more than the ?top? result in a particular category. By publishing many
results near the top (e.g., top 10, or all of the past results within 10% of
the current high spot), competitors can try to sneak into the listing even
though conditions might not permit them to break an all-time record. An
excellent reference would contain links to more material: the actual log,
technical detail about the station which made the record, operator background,
etc.
This will give potential contest entrants a great many targets to shoot at ?
and might very well convince a casual contester to go at it for the full 48
hours. A ham who knows only the single-op, all-band record might say, ?Oh well,
no way am I going to beat that. So I?ll just do a few hours here and there.?
But what if W8HAM discovered that the CQWW 8-land single-op assisted record for
10 meters was tantalizingly low? That puts a different spin on things, doesn?t
it?
New Ideas for Coverage
Story Ideas: The final part of our proposal offers story ideas that (hopefully)
will interest a general audience. The following is a list of 20 potential
stories or sidebars that could be included with contest coverage. There are
obviously many other possibilities.
Trend stories ? ?20 percent of all contesting records were broken in the year
2000,? etc. A snapshot of where contesting is going.
A feature story about the op who holds more contest records than anyone alive.
The superstations: A guide to the greatest contest stations in America/the
world. Perhaps a sidebar on the tallest ham antennas in existence (used in
contesting).
The best contesting conditions in history. (Consider sunspots, weather, rare DX
stations competing, etc.) A nostalgia piece loaded with anecdotes about how
sweet it was.
You are there: A weekend with a championship contest team, from planning to
take-down.
The world?s best contest location(s). (Not stations ? this story would give
scientific reasons for why, say, a place next to salt water is better than a
spot in the middle of Midwest farm country. Or why a QTH on the East Coast is
ideal for working Europe on several bands (or whatever).
Wild weather. Hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards and other examples of nature?s
wrath ? and how their inopportune appearances ruined some major contests or
contesting efforts.
Profile of a ham who contests only with homebrew equipment. Or antique
equipment.
How to work your way up to the big leagues. What separates a good contester
from a rookie? How do you work several stations a minute? What are the most
common mistakes a newcomer makes?
How to organize a multi-multi effort. Everything from scheduling to feeding the
troops.
How to secure a great contesting QTH. A guide to the best locations, and
perhaps a list of specific sites that rent to hams and are already equipped
with antennas.
Big guns with little signals. A feature story about the best QRP contesters,
and what they do right.
The case for contesters. Why shouldn?t America?s biggest and best stations form
the backbone of the nation?s civil defense/emergency response efforts?
Point/counterpoint: Examining the age-old issue of contest QRM versus ?it?s
only one weekend?/?why don?t you ragchew on the WARC bands??
On a similar note, a story about the fact that some contesters have been cited
by the FCC for deliberate interference during a contest. Is this truly fair,
given the fact that some have said they couldn?t even hear the stations they
were supposedly QRMing?
A brief history of contesting. How did it all start?
Back when. Interviews with the oldest living contesters, and what contesting
was like in their day.
The lean years. How can you enjoy contesting when the sunspot count is at or
near zero? What?s the best strategy?
Which band is best? A guide to choosing the best band for a single-band
contesting effort. How do the sunspot count, the A index, the weather, etc.,
help determine the answer?
Overcomers. Not necessarily the best contesters, just the most inspiring ones,
such as a ham who suffered a stroke but nevertheless fires up the rig as part
of his therapy, etc.
Multimedia - Audio and Video
Electronic media creates entirely new opportunities for contest coverage. Not
only can traditional presentations be distributed at vastly lower expense and
with higher volume, they can include new types of information as well. Audio
and video recordings, as well as interactive graphics, can bring completely new
dimensions to contest coverage. The ARRL is already providing audio recordings
of QSOs in association with other Web coverage, for example.
Contest coverage would greatly benefit from the following types of multimedia
presentations:
Audio recordings of contest QSOs
Audio/video recordings of elements associated with the contest (pre-, during,
and post-contest)
Photo ?stills? and slide shows
Interviews with the experts
Live and still graphics generated by the ARRL and by entrants
Because the amount of effort to create this type of information is substantial,
it is strongly recommended that the ARRL provide a hosting facility for contest
entrants to contribute or post their own information as is currently done with
Soapbox. The size and duration of the postings could be limited to manage the
amount of data space required. The issue of reviewing each post for appropriate
content would also have to be addressed.
Because these new coverage elements are quite rich in content, they are also
likely to generate discussion and comment by the viewers. In order to focus the
discussion, it would be useful to create a posting service on the contest Web
site where individual comments could be posted for public comment.
Viewers will have widely divergent access bandwidths ranging from 28.8 kbps
dial-ups to broadband. If possible, server technology capable of sensing link
capability (or allowing the user to specify the link characteristics) should be
used for distribution of the larger elements. An alternative would be to
provide large and small versions of elements, where practical.
PROPOSAL #3 ? On-Line Distribution of Contest Data
Lead Author ? Ward Silver, NØAX
Contributing Authors ? Michael Keane, K1MK and Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Scope
This proposal describes the types of contest data that should be made publicly
available on-line. Detailed data formats are not covered.
Purpose
This document is a summary of ideas and suggestions contributed by individuals
in the contesting community. It is hoped it will serve to stimulate discussion
and produce more ideas.
Background
Until very recently, the only type of contest data available to contestants was
printed and PDF documents that tabulated the scores of class leaders, gave
selected entrant breakdowns, and provided line scores of all entrants. Contest
data in a digital form suitable for doing detailed post-contest analysis has
not been available. With the advent of the Web it is has become technically
easy and cost-effective to make contest data available to everyone in a format
suitable for analysis. The excellent 2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes reportage
clearly points the way to making improved data sets available.
We expect that detailed post-contest analysis will assist individuals and the
contesting community as a whole in gaining a deeper understanding and
appreciation of what transpires during a contest. Ideally, making data
available will spur novel ideas that lead to creative improvements.
Machine-Readable Results
Quantitative contest results that are normally presented in the printed or PDF
documents, such as line scores, leader boxes, records, etc., should also be
made available as machine-readable tables of data. In order to perform accurate
and detailed contest analysis the following data is of particular interest to
the contesting community:
The output of the log checking process for any entry
Supplementary details about a contestant?s equipment and precise geographic
location (e.g. Maidenhead grid locator or latitude-longitude coordinates)
Data that is provided should be in common formats suitable for importing into
standard logging programs, databases and spreadsheet packages. Examples of such
formats would be Cabrillo format for log data and CSV or tab delimited format
for tabular.
The following sections list the individual data elements recommended to be
present in each type of data.
Log Data
Summary (Header)
Station and operator call signs
Entry Class
Geographical Region
Other contest-specific grouping criteria
QSO data
Time and Date
Band
Mode
Exchange (Sent & Received)
Log checking output
TBD
Entry Supplemental Data
Station and operator call signs
Entry Class
Geographical Region
Equipment Summary
Other contest-specific grouping criteria
We note that the techniques and tools for providing on-line resources are
evolving rapidly. On-line resources are also likely to create a demand for new
types of data, as well. These recommendations are only a start.
Third-Party Analysis
Contest analysis provided by individual entrants should be accompanied by
supporting data tables, graphic objects, and program descriptions or ideally,
the programs themselves. The sponsor may also create novel analysis metrics
that are made available electronically via a database.
Examples of Novel Metrics:
Evaluation of geographical impact on performance
Propagation analysis based on geographical data
Accuracy metrics and comparisons
Operator ranking and rating systems
Comparative performance-over-time (horse races)
Open Access to Results & Data
Currently some contest content, e.g. expanded coverage for the 2001 ARRL
November Sweepstakes, is available only on the members-only section of the ARRL
Web site. While other content, e.g. PDF versions of the contest report articles
from QST, is placed initially on the members-only section for a proprietary use
period prior to its publication in QST. Open access is granted after the
article appears in QST and the PDF files are moved to the general user section
of the Web site.
It is appropriate for the bulk of enhanced and expanded contest coverage,
including narrative articles, leader boxes, contest analysis, video, audio,
etc., to remain on the members-only section of the ARRL Web site. Some content
may be released for general consumption after an appropriate proprietary period
at the ARRL?s discretion.
However, it is strongly recommended that open access, or at least access for
all contest participants, to some minimum set of data be provided. And that
access is granted to these data as soon as they become available.
Suggested Components for An Open Access Data Set:
Log data
Line scores in machine-readable form
Publication of Log Data
The DX community frowns upon providing public access to log data that includes
full QSO details. Such access is seen as enabling a form of ?data mining? that
would allow an unscrupulous station to claim credit for a log entry that in
truth represents a busted QSO.
Suggestions for Insuring Integrity:
Release log data only to individuals who submit a log themselves
Prohibit the further redistribution of log data by recipient
Do not release log data until log checking process is completed.
Investigate ways for ARRL Contest Branch to share log checking results with the
DXCC Program and Logbook of the World project.
Privacy Issues
As important as what data should be available is insuring that sensitive
personal information is not released. While certain personal information such
as a licensee?s name and mailing address is currently included in the log that
an entrant submits, this information is already a matter of public record and
readily available from multiple sources. Other, potentially more sensitive,
personal information about the entrant is not included in the log at present
and it is our recommendation that this should continue to be the case.
Suggestion to Safeguard Privacy:
Personal data that is not readily available from a public source should not be
published or released.
Preserving Participation
The mandatory release of log data as a condition of entry may cause certain
contesters either to forgo participating in a contest or, if they do
participate, to not submit a log.
Suggestions for Preserving Participation:
Include a mechanism in the log submittal process so that each entrant must
affirmatively authorize the publication and release of their log data.
Allow individuals to ?opt out? of sharing their log data without being
penalized.
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sat Jul 27 15:03:52 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
In-Reply-To: <t83ad26ssmyfq07.270720020826@designet-jsi>
Message-ID: <000301c23576$70f8c5c0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Sri if some of this has been said already, but there has been so much
talk on this subject that I just can't read it all.
My feelings are this:
Leave the 30 days to get logs in for now, but in the mean time instead
of just listing logs received, publish the claimed scores as they
arrive. The log rx robot should be able to handle this, after it
accepts a log just extract the claimed score, entry class, and club and
sort it into a web page listing. This will make the 3830 list
redundant, I hate sending the log one place, and the summary to 2
others(3830 and yccc's internal score list).
As logs get checked just update the list from above with the verified
results and resort. Probably starting with the biggest claimed logs and
working down so the most likely winners see their final standing first.
This would be similar to knowing the winner of a race before everyone
has even finished.
I would like to see more use of real time reporting like w1ve has done
for Writelog at http://www.contestlogs.com/live/default2.asp. I think
the wrtc demo of real time reporting has shown that there is some
interest in this concept. This will take some work on the part of
contesting loggers to send periodic updates in a specific format to a
server, but anyone that has telnet access to the web should be able to
do this. i.e. for something like dos CT I could make my wintelnetx
program grab a line score broadcast on the ct network and send it to the
w1ve server, all k1ea would have to do is add a periodic broadcast to
his network that has the right data in it. With a bit more work I could
probably make something to duplicate the ct log as it is sent on the
network and rescore myself to get the data. Other loggers would
probably be not much harder.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim Idelson
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 12:27
> To: CQ-Contest Post
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
>
> WN3VAW said:
>
> >I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes
in a
> positive way to encourage more potential contesters.<
>
> Thank heaven somebody finally said something a little bit strategic!
This
> is
> the first hint of forward thinking that I've heard in this entire
> conversation.
> Talking about a 15 day change in the results schedule seems to be an
empty
> effort when the implications of this change are much more
far-reaching.
>
> Over the past six months, about thirty-five of us got together and
> contributed
> to a major proposal about ARRL contest coverage which was submitted to
the
> ARRL
> BoD just before their meeting. I didn't expect to get an official
reaction
> from
> HQ right away, but I did expect to hear some reaction and conversation
> about
> the proposal here on the reflector.
>
> Maybe it was too much trouble to click on one of the links in my
previous
> message:
> PDF version:
> http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
> or
> HTML version:
> http://www.designet.com/k1ir/ContestCoverageProposal_071702.htm
>
> So, I'll attach it here. Unfortunately, the formatting of the charts
won't
> make
> it through the reflector, so you'll have to look at one of the
original
> documents if you are interested in those.
>
> Honestly, I am quite disappointed. I was really hoping that you'd take
a
> look
> at the hard work done by your peers and engage the subject fully.
>
> Here are a few points and questions to get you thinking:
> 1. The group concluded that contest coverage in QST is really lacking,
and
> that
> the pages remaining after line scores are removed should be used much
more
> creatively. Ideas have been presented. Which do you like/hate?
> 2. While the web is now being used to effectively present contest
results,
> there is still a need for a more permanent record and for hardcopy.
How do
> we
> do both?
> 3. The web is much more appropriate for conveying the contesting
> "experience."
> We can do it with sound, graphics and video. It can be stored. It can
be
> live.
> How can we get this done?
>
> Jim Idelson K1IR
> email k1ir@designet.com
> web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>
> *********** Forwarded Proposal ***********
>
> Contest Coverage Working Group
> Guidelines and Proposals
> 2 July 2002
>
> INTRODUCTION
> Lead Author ? Jim Idelson, K1IR
>
> Approach
>
> The Working Group has developed three interrelated proposals and this
> overview
> document, which addresses the process and integrates the component
> proposals.
> The proposals are:
> Proposal #1: General Guidelines for Allocating Material between
Print
> and
> Electronic Media
> Proposal #2: New Ideas for Contest-Specific and General Contesting
> Material
> Proposal #3: New Ideas for On-Line Contest-Specific Data
>
> The goal of these proposals is to serve as a vehicle for defining
broad-
> based
> understandings of what is and is not desirable, as well as to present
new
> ideas
> for coverage. All three are intended to undergo continual revision as
new
> ideas
> are encountered.
> The guidelines and proposals presented in this document are not
intended
> to
> address questions such as: the proper balance between contest and non-
> contest
> content in any particular medium; what constitutes an adequate number
of
> pages;
> or how much contest related content is appropriate in a general
readership
> publication such as QST.
>
> Background
>
> In 2001, faced with the prospects of operating deficits for the next
> several
> years, the ARRL Board's Administration & Finance Committee requested
staff
> identify areas of potential cost reduction. ARRL management's response
> included
> a plan for publishing QST with fewer pages of editorial content per
issue.
> One
> element of this plan would eliminate contest line scores from QST, to
be
> replaced by Web-based line scores. News of this proposal immediately
> sparked a
> series of reactions from the contesting community expressing concern
that
> contesting's presence in QST would be diminished to a damaging degree.
> The strength and breadth of feeling in the contest community regarding
the
> proposed changes was reflected in the 18 January 2002 joint statement
and
> request of U.S. contest clubs addressed to the ARRL Board of Directors
and
> signed by the presidents of twelve ARRL-affiliated contest clubs.
> Following
> through on the contest club presidents? proposal, concerned contesters
> from
> across the U.S. and Canada have joined forces to form the ad hoc ARRL
> Contest
> Coverage Working Group. This group is engaging the issues in a
pragmatic
> and
> constructive manner ? assisting the ARRL staff to find ways of
utilizing
> the
> limited number of QST pages allocated to reporting contest results in
> concert
> with alternative electronic media to obtain the best possible
distribution
> of
> contest coverage.
>
> New Technology, New Opportunities
>
> QST, NCJ, CQ and the recently demised CQ-Contest magazines have long
been
> the
> primary outlets for contest reporting in the U.S. Due to limited print
> space,
> the reporting is of necessity rather restricted and has converged on
an
> abbreviated format of summary, limited breakdowns, top scores, line
> scores, and
> a small amount of background information on or from individual
> competitors.
>
> Web pages and email-distributed newsletters, which have extremely low
> distribution costs, have become new outlets for this material. Because
of
> their
> low cost, constraints on the volume of material have essentially been
> removed.
> This allows expansion of many elements of contest coverage beyond what
any
> print medium could afford. In addition, electronic distribution
generally
> is
> much more timely than print, enabling multiple editions and frequent
> updates of
> material. It is expected that the current levels of quality and
quality
> control
> for published material would be met or exceeded, regardless of media.
>
> Electronic media can also go beyond print media in bringing new
dimensions
> of
> contest coverage and information to the audience. With database
> technology,
> contest logs can be sorted and filtered to meet any imaginable data
> analysis
> need. Using audio and video technologies, we can now convey more than
> basic
> reports on contesting; we can truly convey the experience of
contesting.
>
> HIGH-LEVEL CONCERNS
>
> A number of important points emerged from the discussion, and these
points
> cut
> across all forms of contest coverage. They are summarized below:
>
> Visibility
>
> One of the most commonly raised issues regarding a shift of line
scores
> from
> QST to the Web is the reduced visibility of the contesting community
to
> the
> broader amateur community, especially to casual participants and
potential
> newcomers. It is strongly felt that the acknowledgement from
publishing
> scores
> and calls, no matter how small the score, serves to attract and
encourage
> entry-level contesters to the sport.
>
> Contesters at all levels have always been honored to see their call
signs
> and
> performance in the ?bright lights? of QST. With great pride, they like
to
> refer
> other hams to the magazine and show the magazine to their non-ham
friends
> and
> family. There are widely held concerns over the loss of such
high-level
> visibility should scores be moved to the Web.
>
> Opportunities for Visibility:
>
> Include contest results announcements in the general news section of
> www.arrl.org with links to full coverage
> Use visual cues (highlighted links, graphics, or pop-up windows) to
entice
> ?surfers? to visit contest coverage
> Capture information about those who visit contest sections of the
Website
> and
> solicit them with opportunities to see more coverage
> Use the log submission mechanics to obtain email addresses to which
> results may
> be sent automatically.
> Continue to provide contest report articles in the ?traditional?
style,
> including line scores, via an electronic medium.
>
> Connectivity
>
> Recognizing that various print and electronic media will continue to
exist
> separately, and that there will not be a complete duplication of
content
> in the
> various media, every effort must be made to provide many references
among
> the
> different coverage vehicles. This implies many links in the electronic
> media,
> and many references to Web and email from the print media. For
example,
> QST
> coverage of contests should push readers towards Web-based coverage
and
> describe the expanded coverage options available.
>
> Opportunities for Connectivity:
> Every printed article should contain numerous and clear references to
> relevant
> electronic media.
> Many active links between electronic media presentations should be
> introduced
> and maintained.
> Cross-references from print media to electronic should not be limited
to
> QST.
> All ARRL publications should cross-reference relevant electronic
media.
>
> Ease of Use
>
> As electronic outlets for contest coverage are increasingly employed,
it
> is
> important to ensure that those who wish to view the content have an
easy
> and
> attractive way to navigate amongst the many types and sources of
> information
> that will be available. The approach to Website navigation and use of
> email
> will be an important part of the electronic media design.
>
> Suggestions for Ease of Use:
> Focus design on accessing all aspects of each contest from a single
place
> ? a
> contest home page for each contest. Include access to rules,
> announcements,
> current and historical results, discussions, Soapbox, etc ? all from a
> single
> home page.
> Avoid grouping of information by ?type?. For example, listing Soapbox
> links for
> all contests is not particularly useful, since few if any individual
> contesters
> will be interested in all contests.
>
> Beyond the Written Word
>
> The real secret to a successful shift from printed media to the Web is
in
> taking advantage of the capabilities that are unique to electronic
media.
> If
> use of the Web is restricted to duplicating the same kinds of material
> that
> would previously have been presented in magazines ? then the
transition to
> electronic media will not be as swift and powerful. Implementations
using
> electronic media to recreate and convey the excitement of the
contesting
> experience will make it impossible for this new approach to fail.
>
> Opportunities for Going Beyond the Written Word:
> Provide data in downloadable format wherever possible
> Add audio and video to the types of information available
> Include audio and video interviews with the winners and other entrants
> with
> something of interest to contribute
> Allow viewers to add data or audio/video to the available material
>
> Accessibility
>
> Access to electronic media distributed via the Internet is good and
> continues
> to improve. Even so, Internet access remains far from universal. In
2000,
> the
> U.S. Census Bureau reported that 51% of U.S. households had a computer
and
> 41.5% of households had access to the Internet. Neither percentage
> depended
> strongly on age group for adults in the range of 18?65 years old. The
> rates of
> computer ownership and Internet access both increase sharply with
greater
> household income and higher levels of education.
>
> Access to the broadband Internet connections, necessary for realizing
the
> full
> potential of powerful multi-media technologies such as video, is
rapidly
> improving as well. The FCC reports that 7.0% of U.S. households were
> subscribed
> to high-speed Internet services as of July 2001, up from 4.7% in
January
> 2001,
> and 1.6% in July 2000.
>
> Focusing specifically on the amateur community, a recent survey
> commissioned by
> the ARRL concluded that 89% of its members had Internet access
although
> only
> 51% of the ARRL membership had registered as users of the ARRL
members-
> only Web
> site by October 2001. The number of electronic versus the number of
paper
> logs
> received by both the ARRL Contest Branch and the CQWW Committee
suggest
> that
> the contesting community already is highly ?wired.?
>
> Suggestions for Accessibility:
> Print copies of unabridged contest announcements including the
detailed
> rules
> and ?traditional? contest report articles including line scores should
be
> available for those members who lack Internet access.
> Content produced for electronic distribution should also be published
on
> high-density, archival quality media, e.g. CD-ROM and DVD.
>
> Thinking Globally
>
> Contesters outside of the U.S. constitute a sizeable fraction of
today's
> contesting community. Anyone holding to the narrow view that ARRL
> sponsored
> contests are solely parochial affairs of interest to an exclusively
U.S.
> (or
> North American) audience is in error. Non-U.S. stations submitted 50%
of
> the
> logs received for the 2000 ARRL 10-Meter Contest; 55% of the logs for
the
> 2001
> ARRL International DX Contest; and 70% of the logs for the 2001 IARU
HF
> World
> Championships. In 2000, DX stations accounted for one-third of the
16,000
> contest logs processed by the ARRL Contest Branch and one-third of the
> scores
> printed in QST.
> Clearly, active contesters exist in substantial numbers around the
world
> yet
> they represent a virtually untapped market distinct from the ARRL?s
> traditional
> membership base. Like their U.S. counterparts, many international
> contesters
> are enthusiastic and excited about the prospects for expanded and
enhanced
> contest coverage being discussed. And they share an interest in
viewing
> such
> coverage.
>
> Historically, the costs of reaching a worldwide market using print
have
> been
> prohibitive, keeping demand to an absolute minimum. NCJ is not
marketed
> outside
> USA/Canada yet much of its content is relevant to contesters
worldwide.
> The
> very low distribution costs of electronic media now permit existing
> content and
> expanded coverage to efficiently reach a global audience.
>
> Suggestions for Connecting with A Global Audience:
> The ARRL offer non-U.S. contesters access to the expanded and enhanced
> contest
> coverage on the ARRL Web site; possibly in exchange for payment of an
> appropriate fee.
> Use e-mail addresses harvested from log submittals for the targeted
> marketing
> of expanded contest coverage, NCJ, membership, etc.
> Feature contests sponsored by sister IARU societies in reciprocity for
> similar
> exposure given to ARRL contests.
> Comb international sources for content. Acquire English language
rights to
> the
> best contest related content being produced worldwide.
> Cultivate international distribution channels and develop foreign
language
> outlets for ARRL contest coverage.
>
> Line Scores
>
> At present, line scores are the largest individual component of
contest
> coverage, occupying half the pages of contest reports in QST. Faced
with
> falling page counts and shrinking publication budgets but growing
> participation, we are forced to confront a nasty dilemma. Either
continued
> publication of line scores displaces all other aspects of contest
coverage
> from
> the pages of QST with contest reports being reduced to a listing of
scores
> and
> call signs. Or the contest related content that is best suited for
> distribution
> to a broad audience remains in QST with line scores relocated to the
Web.
>
> The guidelines in Proposal #1 are intended to be used as an aide when
> considering the optimal utilization of scarce resources. Several types
of
> content are judged by the Working Group as being better suited than
line
> scores
> for occupying a limited number of QST pages (see Table 1 in Proposal
#1).
> If
> the ARRL Board of Directors makes the determination to cut deeply into
the
> number of QST pages available for reporting contest results, an
> application of
> these guidelines would lead
> one to conclude that the least undesirable alternative is relocating
line
> scores to the Web. By using linkages and references, readership can be
> guided
> to the electronic media where line scores would be published in full
and
> possibly even in expanded form, as the 2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes
> results
> show.
>
> PROPOSAL #1 ? Allocation of Coverage to Print and Electronic Media
> Lead Author ? Ward Silver, N?AX
> Contributing Authors ? Michael Keane, K1MK and Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
>
> Scope
>
> This proposal addresses the general question of how to allocate the
> relative
> proportions of contest coverage between print and electronic media. No
> distinction is made between the different forms of either media (i.e.
?
> magazine vs. newsletter or Web page vs. email). No attempt is made to
> specify
> the details of coverage content or to rank the most valuable, most
> desirable or
> most enjoyable content.
>
> Purpose
>
> The purpose is to develop a set of general guidelines to provide
guidance
> to
> publishers for developing and distributing contest coverage material.
> Also, it
> may serve to encourage discussion about the development of new types
and
> forms
> of material.
>
> Background
>
> Currently, print media is the primary form for distributing contest
> information
> and results to the amateur radio community. Electronic media, however,
is
> rapidly becoming an accepted norm for distributing this type of
> information due
> to its cost advantages, timeliness and increasing public acceptance.
The
> question has become not if, but when and how much contest information
> should be
> made available electronically.
>
> In this rapidly changing environment, it is important that publishers
and
> readers have a good sense of each other?s needs. This document
attempts to
> provide information on the general types of contest coverage and the
> suitability of distributing each type of content in print or
electronic
> form.
> Print media is discussed as either General or Specialty. General
refers to
> media dealing with the full spectrum of ham radio, such as QST.
Specialty
> refers to publications aimed at contesters such as NCJ.
>
> Electronic media is discussed as either Push or Pull. Push refers to
> actively
> distributed formats, in which information is delivered to the consumer
at
> the
> initiative of the publisher ? the publisher is the active party.
Examples
> of
> push media include newsletters (email or print), bulletins and
broadcasts.
> Pull refers to passive sources of information, in which information is
> accessed
> or retrieved from the publisher at the initiative of the consumer ?
the
> reader
> is the active party. Examples of pull media include web pages,
bulletin
> boards,
> ftp sites, books, CD-ROMs and libraries.
>
> Coverage
>
> Contest announcements and results should be available in printed and
> digital
> media. An announcement is any advance notice that provides information
as
> the
> time, rules, awards, etc., about a specific contest. The results
include
> information describing any aspect of the contest that is distributed
after
> the
> contest.
> Table 1 shows the relative suitability of using each of these media to
> distribute specific announcement and results content; i.e. ? Is the
medium
> the
> one best suited to distribute this type of information to the target
> audience?
> The suitability of each content type is rated as high, limited or low.
The
> ratings attempt to account for all aspects of the medium including
cost,
> quality, readership, archival, timeliness, etc. The ratings are
defined as
> follows:
> High ? the medium is well suited to both the information and
the
> target audience.
> Limited ? the medium is not the best method for distribution
of
> the
> information to the target audience.
> Low ? the medium is poorly suited to the information, the
target
> audience or both; distribution of the information via this medium may
be
> inefficient, untimely or costly
>
> Table 1 ? General Allocation Guidelines
> OMITTED DUE TO FORMATTING PROBLEMS
>
> PROPOSAL #2 ? New Ideas for Contest-Specific and General Contesting
> Material
> Lead Author ? Brian D. Smith W9IND
> Contributing Authors ?Ward Silver N?AX, Gary Breed K9AY
>
> Scope
>
> This proposal discusses existing contest print coverage. New ideas for
> coverage
> are presented, both for print and electronic media. Details of
> implementation
> are not addressed, neither is the allocation of coverage between types
of
> media.
>
> Purpose
>
> The purpose of this proposal is to:
> Assess and critique current contest coverage in the print media.
> Suggest how to improve coverage in both print and electronic media.
> Contribute new ideas for coverage in multiple media.
>
> Background
>
> The ARRL Staff responsible for publishing a QST having fewer pages per
> issue
> has proposed to allocate the limited resources available for reporting
> contest
> results in ways that are appropriate for a general-readership, monthly
> magazine. This, they believe, would save money and create more space
for
> articles of greater general interest.
>
> The following proposal deals mainly with the latter objective. As
stated
> in
> Point 5 of the ?Joint Statement and Request of U.S. Contest Clubs on
the
> Proposal to Eliminate Detailed Contest Results from QST,? the
coalition of
> ARRL-affiliated contest clubs intends to assist QST in ?making such
> coverage
> more attractive and interesting to a much wider audience than has been
the
> case
> to date.?
>
> In striving to attain this goal, the lead author has drawn from about
a
> quarter
> century of professional journalism experience as a magazine editor,
> newspaper
> reporter and freelance writer. The approach of this proposal is
neither
> complex
> nor radical; it simply suggests journalistic techniques and angles
> traditionally used in the creation of newspaper and magazine feature
> stories,
> newswriting and sportswriting. These approaches are not unknown to
QST,
> but
> perhaps by utilizing them more often, the magazine would enhance its
> contest
> coverage.
>
> Critique of Existing Coverage
>
> QST?s current coverage includes the calls and scores of every entrant,
and
> in
> this respect, its articles could not be more thorough for anyone
seeking
> such
> information. The lead-in text that precedes the contest results is
often
> concise, matter-of-fact and esoteric, and perhaps more interesting to
> hard-core
> contesters than the average ham. As long as this is true, QST may find
it
> difficult to justify devoting so much space to contest coverage.
>
> Possible Alternatives
> QST could revamp the format of the coverage so that (1) the articles
are
> more
> interesting to non-contesters and (2) hams with little contesting
> experience
> are encouraged to get in the game.
>
> General Interest Coverage
>
> One alternative is to make the coverage more like a ?game story? found
on
> a
> sports page. For instance, rather than covering a contest from the
> standpoint
> of final scores (?Club ABC got 7.4 million points in the multi-multi
> category
> to edge Club XYZ, which scored 7.2 million?) ? as is typically done in
QST
> ?
> the magazine could approach it from a ?you are there? angle: ?Club
ABC?s
> contest effort almost ended before it began. Only three hours before
the
> start
> of the ARRL DX Contest, a severe thunderstorm packing 70 mph winds
sent
> their
> tallest antenna tumbling and the entire club scrambling. But a nifty
bit
> of
> improvisation put the station back on the air only 12 minutes before
> midnight
> in Greenwich ?,? etc. Stories like these would have universal appeal,
> regardless of whether the average reader cared deeply about
contesting.
>
> How to round up such information? The contest page on the ARRL Web
site
> already
> has a Soapbox, in which contesters can post their impressions,
complaints,
> reminiscences, anecdotes, etc., regarding each contest. All that?s
needed
> is to
> set up a similar Web site and inform contestants that QST is looking
for
> any
> good stories from the contest. Or the magazine could invite them to
e-mail
> this
> information. The author of the story could then scan the contributed
copy
> for
> the best tales. Many quotes could be lifted directly from the posts or
e-
> mails,
> and further information could be gathered via follow-up e-mail,
landline
> and/or
> even an on-air sked.
>
> New Approaches
>
> Looking more closely at newspaper sports sections, we find further
> inspiration
> and possibilities. We see that not everything on every page is a game
> story:
> There are also feature stories, profiles, personal columns and
?pre-games?
> (stories previewing important games and events ? for instance, ?The
Los
> Angeles
> Lakers may face their toughest challenge of the year when the Dallas
> Mavericks
> come to town Friday ??). The same elements and techniques that sustain
> sports
> pages across America could be employed in contesting coverage.
>
> Feature stories, a broad category, might include topics such as ?How
our
> club
> prepares for a multi-multi event? ? everything from how to recruit and
> schedule
> operators to what food and drink to keep in the fridge. There could be
> discussions of contesting tips and techniques: ?What to do when a
solar
> flare
> zaps the HF bands in the middle of a contest.?
>
> Profiles could run the gamut ? from the 88-year-old guy who organized
the
> first
> ARRL Whatever Contest to the club that?s won the last 10 CQWW
multi-multi
> titles.
> Personal columns could also include a broad range of topics, from
serious
> to
> humorous (?WPX: For once in my life, I?m as rare as Mongolia? by WY9A
? or
> ?How
> contesting enabled me to finally achieve DXCC?).
>
> ?Pre-games? would supplement the traditional pre-contest coverage,
which
> typically consists of a long list of rules and regulation. Such
> information is
> valuable to veteran contesters, but complicated and potentially off-
> putting to
> beginners. Naturally, no one wants to embarrass himself on the air, so
> many
> hams who might enjoy contesting may instead decide to forgo the
contest
> rather
> than risk ridicule.
>
> Attracting Newcomers
>
> Contesters are often viewed by non-contesters as insular and cliquish
(not
> to
> mention pushy). Undoubtedly, some contesters are less than courteous
in
> the
> heat of the battle. But as every contester knows, great scores depend
on
> great
> participation. We need the newcomers ? as many as we can get. So how
to
> make
> them feel welcome?
>
> QST and several Web sites publish information on upcoming contests,
but
> the
> rules may seem overly complex to the uninitiated. A better alternative
> might
> involve creating what?s known in the journalism business as a sidebar.
USA
> Today is fond of sidebars ? read a story about Barry Bonds? current
home
> run
> total and you might also see a sidebar about ?Most home runs in April
?
> all-time bests,? etc. Read any newspaper travel story and you?ll often
> find a
> sidebar that summarizes the key information: ?Destination: Louisville,
> Kentucky. Major tourist attractions: Located on the Ohio River, home
of
> Churchill Downs ?? etc.
>
> It is this user-friendly format ? the sidebar, which would accompany
the
> ?pre-game? write-up ? that would work best in attracting newcomers to
> contesting. Instead of having to wade through a plethora of technical
> data, a
> rookie contester could simply glance at the sidebar and learn
instantly
> what
> the contest was about and how to participate in it, even if he or she
had
> only
> a couple of hours to do so.
>
> Here?s how it might work (?Announced DXpeditions? might lure non-
> contesting
> DXers who are chasing DXCC and other awards):
> Contest: ARRL International DX Contest
> How to participate: Get on any of the HF bands except the WARC bands.
If
> you?re
> in the United States or Canada, you can?t work any station in either
> country ?
> look for DX stations only. For DX stations, the same applies in
reverse.
> What to say: Give a signal report and your state (for Americans),
province
> (for
> Canadians) or power in watts (DX stations).
> Announced DXpeditions: HK?HAM, San Andes Island, CT3QRP, Madeira
Islands,
> etc.
> Quirks: Split operation on 40 because DX stations are assigned to
> different
> frequencies, etc.
> Best reason to participate: You can attain DXCC in one weekend.
> Relative challenge: Easy for all. (Note: An EME contest would
obviously
> get a
> different answer.)
> Web links: http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2002/intldx.html
> Records: Yet another way to increase interest in contesting is to
stoke
> hams?
> competitive fires. How to do that? Create a Web site that provides
easy
> access
> to every record in every major contest. A good reference for records
would
> list
> more than the ?top? result in a particular category. By publishing
many
> results near the top (e.g., top 10, or all of the past results within
10%
> of
> the current high spot), competitors can try to sneak into the listing
even
> though conditions might not permit them to break an all-time record.
An
> excellent reference would contain links to more material: the actual
log,
> technical detail about the station which made the record, operator
> background,
> etc.
>
> This will give potential contest entrants a great many targets to
shoot at
> ?
> and might very well convince a casual contester to go at it for the
full
> 48
> hours. A ham who knows only the single-op, all-band record might say,
?Oh
> well,
> no way am I going to beat that. So I?ll just do a few hours here and
> there.?
> But what if W8HAM discovered that the CQWW 8-land single-op assisted
> record for
> 10 meters was tantalizingly low? That puts a different spin on things,
> doesn?t
> it?
>
> New Ideas for Coverage
>
> Story Ideas: The final part of our proposal offers story ideas that
> (hopefully)
> will interest a general audience. The following is a list of 20
potential
> stories or sidebars that could be included with contest coverage.
There
> are
> obviously many other possibilities.
>
> Trend stories ? ?20 percent of all contesting records were broken in
the
> year
> 2000,? etc. A snapshot of where contesting is going.
> A feature story about the op who holds more contest records than
anyone
> alive.
> The superstations: A guide to the greatest contest stations in
America/the
> world. Perhaps a sidebar on the tallest ham antennas in existence
(used in
> contesting).
> The best contesting conditions in history. (Consider sunspots,
weather,
> rare DX
> stations competing, etc.) A nostalgia piece loaded with anecdotes
about
> how
> sweet it was.
> You are there: A weekend with a championship contest team, from
planning
> to
> take-down.
> The world?s best contest location(s). (Not stations ? this story would
> give
> scientific reasons for why, say, a place next to salt water is better
than
> a
> spot in the middle of Midwest farm country. Or why a QTH on the East
Coast
> is
> ideal for working Europe on several bands (or whatever).
> Wild weather. Hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards and other examples of
> nature?s
> wrath ? and how their inopportune appearances ruined some major
contests
> or
> contesting efforts.
> Profile of a ham who contests only with homebrew equipment. Or antique
> equipment.
> How to work your way up to the big leagues. What separates a good
> contester
> from a rookie? How do you work several stations a minute? What are the
> most
> common mistakes a newcomer makes?
> How to organize a multi-multi effort. Everything from scheduling to
> feeding the
> troops.
> How to secure a great contesting QTH. A guide to the best locations,
and
> perhaps a list of specific sites that rent to hams and are already
> equipped
> with antennas.
> Big guns with little signals. A feature story about the best QRP
> contesters,
> and what they do right.
> The case for contesters. Why shouldn?t America?s biggest and best
stations
> form
> the backbone of the nation?s civil defense/emergency response efforts?
> Point/counterpoint: Examining the age-old issue of contest QRM versus
> ?it?s
> only one weekend?/?why don?t you ragchew on the WARC bands??
> On a similar note, a story about the fact that some contesters have
been
> cited
> by the FCC for deliberate interference during a contest. Is this truly
> fair,
> given the fact that some have said they couldn?t even hear the
stations
> they
> were supposedly QRMing?
> A brief history of contesting. How did it all start?
> Back when. Interviews with the oldest living contesters, and what
> contesting
> was like in their day.
> The lean years. How can you enjoy contesting when the sunspot count is
at
> or
> near zero? What?s the best strategy?
> Which band is best? A guide to choosing the best band for a
single-band
> contesting effort. How do the sunspot count, the A index, the weather,
> etc.,
> help determine the answer?
> Overcomers. Not necessarily the best contesters, just the most
inspiring
> ones,
> such as a ham who suffered a stroke but nevertheless fires up the rig
as
> part
> of his therapy, etc.
>
> Multimedia - Audio and Video
>
> Electronic media creates entirely new opportunities for contest
coverage.
> Not
> only can traditional presentations be distributed at vastly lower
expense
> and
> with higher volume, they can include new types of information as well.
> Audio
> and video recordings, as well as interactive graphics, can bring
> completely new
> dimensions to contest coverage. The ARRL is already providing audio
> recordings
> of QSOs in association with other Web coverage, for example.
>
> Contest coverage would greatly benefit from the following types of
> multimedia
> presentations:
> Audio recordings of contest QSOs
> Audio/video recordings of elements associated with the contest (pre-,
> during,
> and post-contest)
> Photo ?stills? and slide shows
> Interviews with the experts
> Live and still graphics generated by the ARRL and by entrants
>
> Because the amount of effort to create this type of information is
> substantial,
> it is strongly recommended that the ARRL provide a hosting facility
for
> contest
> entrants to contribute or post their own information as is currently
done
> with
> Soapbox. The size and duration of the postings could be limited to
manage
> the
> amount of data space required. The issue of reviewing each post for
> appropriate
> content would also have to be addressed.
>
> Because these new coverage elements are quite rich in content, they
are
> also
> likely to generate discussion and comment by the viewers. In order to
> focus the
> discussion, it would be useful to create a posting service on the
contest
> Web
> site where individual comments could be posted for public comment.
>
> Viewers will have widely divergent access bandwidths ranging from 28.8
> kbps
> dial-ups to broadband. If possible, server technology capable of
sensing
> link
> capability (or allowing the user to specify the link characteristics)
> should be
> used for distribution of the larger elements. An alternative would be
to
> provide large and small versions of elements, where practical.
>
> PROPOSAL #3 ? On-Line Distribution of Contest Data
> Lead Author ? Ward Silver, N?AX
> Contributing Authors ? Michael Keane, K1MK and Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
>
> Scope
>
> This proposal describes the types of contest data that should be made
> publicly
> available on-line. Detailed data formats are not covered.
>
> Purpose
>
> This document is a summary of ideas and suggestions contributed by
> individuals
> in the contesting community. It is hoped it will serve to stimulate
> discussion
> and produce more ideas.
>
> Background
>
> Until very recently, the only type of contest data available to
> contestants was
> printed and PDF documents that tabulated the scores of class leaders,
gave
> selected entrant breakdowns, and provided line scores of all entrants.
> Contest
> data in a digital form suitable for doing detailed post-contest
analysis
> has
> not been available. With the advent of the Web it is has become
> technically
> easy and cost-effective to make contest data available to everyone in
a
> format
> suitable for analysis. The excellent 2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes
> reportage
> clearly points the way to making improved data sets available.
>
> We expect that detailed post-contest analysis will assist individuals
and
> the
> contesting community as a whole in gaining a deeper understanding and
> appreciation of what transpires during a contest. Ideally, making data
> available will spur novel ideas that lead to creative improvements.
>
> Machine-Readable Results
>
> Quantitative contest results that are normally presented in the
printed or
> PDF
> documents, such as line scores, leader boxes, records, etc., should
also
> be
> made available as machine-readable tables of data. In order to perform
> accurate
> and detailed contest analysis the following data is of particular
interest
> to
> the contesting community:
> The output of the log checking process for any entry
> Supplementary details about a contestant?s equipment and precise
> geographic
> location (e.g. Maidenhead grid locator or latitude-longitude
coordinates)
> Data that is provided should be in common formats suitable for
importing
> into
> standard logging programs, databases and spreadsheet packages.
Examples of
> such
> formats would be Cabrillo format for log data and CSV or tab delimited
> format
> for tabular.
>
> The following sections list the individual data elements recommended
to be
> present in each type of data.
> Log Data
> Summary (Header)
> Station and operator call signs
> Entry Class
> Geographical Region
> Other contest-specific grouping criteria
> QSO data
> Time and Date
> Band
> Mode
> Exchange (Sent & Received)
> Log checking output
> TBD
> Entry Supplemental Data
> Station and operator call signs
> Entry Class
> Geographical Region
> Equipment Summary
> Other contest-specific grouping criteria
>
> We note that the techniques and tools for providing on-line resources
are
> evolving rapidly. On-line resources are also likely to create a demand
for
> new
> types of data, as well. These recommendations are only a start.
>
> Third-Party Analysis
>
> Contest analysis provided by individual entrants should be accompanied
by
> supporting data tables, graphic objects, and program descriptions or
> ideally,
> the programs themselves. The sponsor may also create novel analysis
> metrics
> that are made available electronically via a database.
>
> Examples of Novel Metrics:
> Evaluation of geographical impact on performance
> Propagation analysis based on geographical data
> Accuracy metrics and comparisons
> Operator ranking and rating systems
> Comparative performance-over-time (horse races)
>
> Open Access to Results & Data
>
> Currently some contest content, e.g. expanded coverage for the 2001
ARRL
> November Sweepstakes, is available only on the members-only section of
the
> ARRL
> Web site. While other content, e.g. PDF versions of the contest report
> articles
> from QST, is placed initially on the members-only section for a
> proprietary use
> period prior to its publication in QST. Open access is granted after
the
> article appears in QST and the PDF files are moved to the general user
> section
> of the Web site.
>
> It is appropriate for the bulk of enhanced and expanded contest
coverage,
> including narrative articles, leader boxes, contest analysis, video,
> audio,
> etc., to remain on the members-only section of the ARRL Web site. Some
> content
> may be released for general consumption after an appropriate
proprietary
> period
> at the ARRL?s discretion.
>
> However, it is strongly recommended that open access, or at least
access
> for
> all contest participants, to some minimum set of data be provided. And
> that
> access is granted to these data as soon as they become available.
>
> Suggested Components for An Open Access Data Set:
> Log data
> Line scores in machine-readable form
> Publication of Log Data
>
> The DX community frowns upon providing public access to log data that
> includes
> full QSO details. Such access is seen as enabling a form of ?data
mining?
> that
> would allow an unscrupulous station to claim credit for a log entry
that
> in
> truth represents a busted QSO.
>
> Suggestions for Insuring Integrity:
> Release log data only to individuals who submit a log themselves
> Prohibit the further redistribution of log data by recipient
> Do not release log data until log checking process is completed.
> Investigate ways for ARRL Contest Branch to share log checking results
> with the
> DXCC Program and Logbook of the World project.
>
> Privacy Issues
>
> As important as what data should be available is insuring that
sensitive
> personal information is not released. While certain personal
information
> such
> as a licensee?s name and mailing address is currently included in the
log
> that
> an entrant submits, this information is already a matter of public
record
> and
> readily available from multiple sources. Other, potentially more
> sensitive,
> personal information about the entrant is not included in the log at
> present
> and it is our recommendation that this should continue to be the case.
>
> Suggestion to Safeguard Privacy:
> Personal data that is not readily available from a public source
should
> not be
> published or released.
>
> Preserving Participation
>
> The mandatory release of log data as a condition of entry may cause
> certain
> contesters either to forgo participating in a contest or, if they do
> participate, to not submit a log.
>
> Suggestions for Preserving Participation:
> Include a mechanism in the log submittal process so that each entrant
must
> affirmatively authorize the publication and release of their log data.
> Allow individuals to ?opt out? of sharing their log data without being
> penalized.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From K4BEV at aol.com Sat Jul 27 12:39:37 2002
From: K4BEV@aol.com (K4BEV@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
Message-ID: <7c.2b888381.2a7418b9@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/27/02 10:11:36 Central Daylight Time, k1ttt@arrl.net
writes:
> instead of just listing logs received, publish the claimed scores as they
> arrive.
While the above is an outstanding idea, the Cabrillo format doesn't include
that information. It could, however, be included in the subject line of the
log submission, or the format could possibly (?) be changed to include it.
Along with the claimed score I like seeing the number of contacts made and
mult total.
73, Don - K4BEV
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>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Sat Jul 27 12:58:53 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207271153320.8970-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
I believe the most important aspect of getting the results out just before
the next running of the event is that it serves to motivate people to
operate again more effectively. IMO, the League would help their contests
by delaying their printed results.
When am I thinking about CW SS? Not in April.
73
Bill, W4AN
>From jfunk at adams.net Sat Jul 27 11:49:33 2002
From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 15 days...not yet....
Message-ID: <033c01c23586$b6abd700$e8248ad8@adams.net>
Though I am in sympathy with the desire to speed contest results to view, I
find the proposal to drop the log submission deadline to 15 days
post-contest to be in potential conflict with *last week's goal* of
recruiting new contesters.
Several times in the last year or so, I have had new contesters operate a
contest and then hand-deliver their paper logs to me so I could type them
into TrLog and submit them electronically. Some of them don't have
computers (gaack!), some don't have e-mail, some of them don't have logging
programs, and some just didn't know how to handle the logs
post-contest....yet. They are learning. OTOH, they all were willing to
spend a bit of time in the contest and submit the results...somehow; and
they are invariably thrilled to see their calls in print (oops...we've been
there).
I'm not sure *I* can deal with that extra step (or two) and still make
a 15-day deadline. What I *am* sure about is that we don't want to lose
these guys/gals that are just testing the contesting waters.
Fifteen days? Not yet, please.
73, Jim N9JF
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sat Jul 27 10:46:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207271646.g6RGkQH27614@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Rover LP
N4PN 676 75 400 57 20 20,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
KN4Y 591 0 42 0 12 49,644 FCG
N4GG 78 10 64 10 9 12,284 PVRC
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
K8MR 52 4 39 4 4,644 MRRC
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NJ8J 43 7 21 7 3 2,604 SECC
W4SAA 27 0 23 0 2 1,242 FCG
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op QRP
NJ4X/7 32 0 31 0 3 1,984
K8GU(@K8GU/P) 8 0 8 0 1 128 MRRC
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 2 15 SECC
Operators:
(none)
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sat Jul 27 10:47:40 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207271647.g6RGleE27623@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
KB8U 227 99 17 30,888
K3DNE 167 69 10 15,732 PVRC
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
K8CC 130 72 6.5 12,240 MRRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE3KZ 126 66 9,570 Ontario VHF Associat
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
K0UK 2 2 27 6 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/2 QRP
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
HS0XNO 97 2 9 388
HS5SYH 25 2 2 100
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 LP
K8KFJ 26 19 6 494
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 QRP
N3AWS 5 4 3 20
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sat Jul 27 10:50:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207271650.g6RGoZn27638@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
W6YX 446 156 10 69,576 NCCC
W1GZ 252 112 10 28,224
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
VA3DX 361 145 10 53,067
W1ZT 373 134 10 49,982 YCCC
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 9 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
9A5W(@9A1A) 301 107 9 32,207
WB4EQS 259 124 32,116
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
AI9T 251 123 10 30,873
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K7ZUM 241 118 7 28,438 WVDXC
N1NB 240 105 8 25,200
K4PX 225 111 10 24,975
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
W4BCG 222 107 9 23,754 TCG
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
K6XT 213 98 9 20,874
W6ZL(BIGWAVE) 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
KD8FS 195 97 5 18,915
LP7H(LU9HS) 227 76 10 17,252
K3FH 176 98 9 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 7 14,964
IT9BLB 186 78 10 14,508 TIKIRRIKI CONTEST CL
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
K5AM 169 78 4 13,182
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
K1XX 161 78 9 12,090
IK0HBN 150 57 10 8,550
WB0O 110 71 2 7,810
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 3 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K9SZ 48 33 1,584
K6OWL 46 34 3 1,564
XE2AC 42 27 3 1,134
F6FJE 24 23 6 552
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
W1GZ N1MGO,WN1E
W6YX K6ENT,N6DE,W6ZZZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sat Jul 27 11:00:33 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207271700.g6RH0Xp27651@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
K8LX 456 0 169 6 304,538
W7GG 362 300 44 9 265,742
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 116 19 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 21 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
K9TM 901 0 109 13 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
AI9T 102 51 15,810
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO CW LP
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
W4BCG 75 0 40 6 9,400 TCG
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
K6XX 1264 247 179 23 1,030,682 NCCC
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 19 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
K1HT 399 123 139 9 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 5 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 13 10,701 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO SSB LP
NQ4U 0 235 49 8 81,498 TCG
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
S50HQ 4493 4185 416 24 11,710,400
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
J75KG 1654 661 192 24 1,776,768 FCG
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
DF0RU 775 663 227 22 1,116,031 Berlin-DX-Group
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S LP
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
PJ2E(N1UR) 2211 0 198 24 2,067,034 YCCC
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 20 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
DH7KU 550 0 66 16 134,640 DK0UN University Rad
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO CW LP
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
OH/W6YA 770 0 159 354,570
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RK4FF 1594 846 325 24 2,637,700
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 23 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
UY5ZZ 991 304 123 956,032
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 15 463,606 HSDXA
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 8 402,327
XE2AC 225 598 90 8 257,760
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
VE4YU 360 232 61 19 270,750
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 8 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
SV1DNW 132 58 84 12 43,008
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
DF1DX 141 114 92 13 71,300 RR DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 23 2,342,130 Other (specify when
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
RN4LP 1505 251 24 1,175,433
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
FM5GU 0 1492 99 10 609,246
S57UN(@S52ZW) 430 5 117,432 SCC
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
SV1DKL 0 683 183 18 416,325
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 162,047
DL4RCK 286 72 8 98,412 BCC
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
DF0RU DH2UHF,DK3WW,DL1AXL,DL7BY,DL7UBA,DL7UFP,DL7UTM
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
W7GG K7ZUM,KC7TWZ,W7GG
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 27 11:59:32 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Recruiting 101
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207270041390.22765-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <20020727175932.97309.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com>
Where is K9PG when you need him ???? Paul... you going to be doing
some publicizing of the NAQP for next weekend ??????
73's Jeff
--- "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com> wrote:
>
>
> I'm now involved with recruiting members for next weekend's NAQP CW
> contest. I'm having some success recently recruiting people to
> operate
> the CW Sprint and NAQP contests, and thought I might pass on some
> hints in
> hopes that other clubs will also have success recruiting members for
> contests.
>
> 1) Announce your intentions here on CQ-Contest and club mail
> reflectors.
> Normally I find this to be mildly successful. Be sure to mention
> that you
> are not just looking for serious operators... that you are fielding
> teams
> of part-timer ops too.
>
> 2) The best technique I have found is contacting each person directly
> by
> e-mail personally. I follow the same method as is #1 and normally
> put in
> some kind of note about us trying to show up some other club or
> something
> else that we can all get our heads around.
>
> 3) Finding Members. I first look at old results for the contest in
> question. Then I move to other contests. For instance, I've had
> really
> good luck this time recruiting guys that operate the ARRL 160 and 10
> meter
> contests as well as CW SS. The results are on the web, and almost
> everyone has an email address that can easily be had on eHam.net or
> QRZ.com. These are also contests that are more domestic in nature,
> which
> is right up the alley of the NAQP.
>
> 4) Finding More Members. Team work! I ask everyone on our teams to
> recruit just one other person to be a member of the teams. This has
> worked very well in the past, as there is no way I can know every
> potential operator in the 4th call area.
>
> 5) Organization. I'm now keeping everyone's callsign, name, etc, in
> a
> database so I can quickly refer to it the next running of the
> contest.
>
> 6) Post cards. Some of the Sprint regulars have recently taken up
> writing
> potential operators post cards in an effort to remind them of a
> contest.
> I personally find email with the expressed intent of joining a team
> is
> more effective.
>
> 7) Team placement competition. Back in the early 80s there was this
> phenom called the Midwest Popguns organzied by Joe (W8LNO) and Tom
> (N0SS) for the CW Sprint. Team placement was based on your finish in
> the
> prior contest. The Popguns fieleded several teams, and I recall
> being
> highly motivated to move from team last to team next. We are just
> starting with this here in W4 for next month's Sprint.
>
> So far I have 22 guys signed up for next weekend. The TCG and FCG
> are
> also fielding at least 2 teams each. I figure we'll have more than
> 50
> guys from W4 active to some degree or another! Now think how much
> fun the
> contest would be if this could be nearly duplicated across 10 call
> areas!
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
>
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>From k2av at contesting.com Sat Jul 27 15:38:44 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207271153320.8970-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <001d01c2359c$d66838c0$0500a8c0@swift>
For operating at a multi, the biggest help is to get the final score
(and the ubn's, etc.) back so the guys can go through it and formulate
ideas for the next time while
1) we can still remember what was going on in the contest
2) while there's still time to engineer and implement changes for
the next one (which is not necessarily the SAME contest a year hence).
Ain't NO big rush at all. We're not dealing with anything that's a
RUSH here.
Just trying to get rid of the obnoxious, brain-numbing, slower than
molasses at the North Pole at Christmas, DELAY in seeing what you did
that we have been putting up with since forever. And get rid of AS
MUCH of the delay as is possible.
Imagine boarding a plane October 30 and not knowing if you made it to
your destination until the next September. Instead you get off the
plane and you have to call Dink to see what country your plane landed
in.
Imagine having a Christmas present under your tree, but you can't open
it until next Thanksgiving.
Imagine closing on a house, starting the payments, paying the
insurance, but not being allowed to move in for ten months.
Instead, for reasons increasingly ENTIRELY artificial, doing a contest
is like starting a pregnancy. Lot of fun in a hurry, but you're going
to wait nine months to see what happened.
Even 30 days is a DELAY, no matter which way you add it up. Even for
the Post Office, 30 days is unacceptable.
Having the scores ready at Noon, Monday, next day after the contest,
THAT'S a rush.
73, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 11:58 AM
Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
> I believe the most important aspect of getting the results out just
before
> the next running of the event is that it serves to motivate people
to
> operate again more effectively. IMO, the League would help their
contests
> by delaying their printed results.
>
> When am I thinking about CW SS? Not in April.
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
>
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>
>From n7mal at citlink.net Sat Jul 27 19:54:17 2002
From: n7mal@citlink.net (N7MAL)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
References: <200207270224.g6R2O1hF032150@contesting.com>
<05da01c23517$89c05b40$03010a0a@office1>
<001d01c2353f$1f5b8ae0$7c6f7e42@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <003101c2359f$0efb0800$41c043d8@n7mal1>
I could not agree with my friend, Jim, more. In fact here is an excerpt from
reply sent directly to Trey: "Hi Trey; your plan, of course, is flawless.
BUT why do we want or need it? The old system has worked perfectly for many
years. Why do we need instant
gratification? Your argument by the time results are published we forgot
what we operated in is, at best, ludicrous. I believe, down to my toes, the
wait for the results promotes interest rather than reduce interest. I go
back to the days of paper logs"...blah blah blah......"You are making and
suggesting changes for the sake of making changes and to overturn a
perfectly working system for those
motivations is absurd."......blah blah blah....
Trey is not suggesting making the system better he is making it faster, for
reasons I still don't understand, let alone agree with. He has done
marvelous work getting the Cabrillo system up and running and should receive
kudos' from all of us for that improvement. Getting as many humans out of
the system as possible was a good thing.
Sometimes slowing down and smelling the roses aint such a bad thing.
MAL N7MAL
BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Neiger" <n6tj@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 07:27
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
> I guess I agree with Ron:
>
> Even if we can maybe hasten the time to the final results, What's the Big
> Rush? Its worked so well for so many years, why do we now think it's
> broken?
>
> Just because many things in our lives CAN and DO go faster, does
everything
> have to?
>
> For many years, the speed limit was 55 MPH. Then they cranked it back up
to
> 65, and in some places even 70. Now, if you're not doing at least 80 on
the
> 91 Freeway, hey buddy, get out of the way. Does that make our lives
> necessarily "better"?
>
> I recall when I was thrilled with my first computer, humming along at a
nice
> 16 MHz. Now I'm wondering if my new 1.3 GHz notebook is fast enough?
Give
> me a break, please..........
>
> Everything today is about speed, speed, speed. Even when driving in Italy
> or Germany, do I take a relaxed tour @ 100 km/hour so I might actually SEE
> some of the beautiful countryside? Nah, I've got to try and COMPETE with
> the locals, and crank it up to 200 km/hr (at least). Is my quality of
life
> better by doing so? I think not. It's just dumb, dumb, dumb.
>
> Now we're led to believe, we can't live without INSTANTANEOUS
GRATIFICATION
> on our contest victory?
>
> If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But it's very thoughtful of The Kid (as
> Trey is known around this household) to worry that we old guys may not be
> around long enough for the final results.
>
> The meaningfulness of the answer, for me, far exceeds the quest for
> expediency, in this case.
>
> Vy 73
>
> Jim Neiger
> N6TJ
>
>
>
> >
> > Considering the outcry last year when (under the dubious excuse of
safety
> of
> > the mail) CQ Magazine forced all of us to enter only by electronic
means,
> to
> > now propose to "force" contest entrants to rush in their logs and then
> > "force" the contest committee to rush compilation in another 2 weeks
> strikes
> > me as being too hasty.
> >
> > Are we all so impatient that reducing the turn-around time between
contest
> &
> > results from 6-8 months for the ARRL, and 8-10 months for CQ (just to
pick
> > on two) to under 2 months isn't enough, but we're going to try to
> force-feed
> > it to 6 or even 4 weeks?
> >
> > Remember, we're not dealing with a "closed" environment like the WRTC
> > competitions, where you have a relative small number of stations (50 or
> > less) competing for 24 hours. Compiling those results in a few hours is
a
> > piece of cake. We're talking about 48 hour contests that literally
> involve
> > thousands, if not tens of thousands, of amateurs -- many of whom never
> have
> > or will send in logs, which always leave question marks about "uniques"
> and
> > "busted calls" and other potential problems to sort out.
> >
> > Further, you must remember that in much of the world outside of North
> > America and Europe, Internet access is not as accessible nor as cheap as
> it
> > is here. I would not be at all surprised to learn that there are many
> > active contesters who have a computer in the shack, yet prefer to mail
> their
> > results in via a disk for whatever reasons.
> >
> > I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
> > positive way to encourage more potential contesters. I think if we rise
> the
> > bar too high, we make the goal too difficult, it will do the exact
> opposite
> > by discouraging potential contesters and some of the active and less
> active
> > ones out there.
> >
> > I also would question the ability to compile scores, even with
automation,
> > in a day or two. Pending data to prove that one way or another, that
> > strikes me as being more than a bit optimistic. Can someone on one of
the
> > major contest committees comment on whether or not automation makes one
or
> > two days practical?
> >
> > I am not saying that Trey's proposed 15 day deadline is a bad idea. But
I
> > don't think we're quite ready for it yet. One thing at a time.
> >
> > 73, ron wn3vaw
> >
> > "What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of
> our
> > time?" -- Howard Beale
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
> > To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
scores
> > decision)
> >
> > > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble
and
> > > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > > Tell me if
> > > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the
> contest
> > > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > No, it's not good enough.
> >
> > I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> > entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a
> tad
> > more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now
> have,
> > 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> > that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves
most
> of
> > that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
> >
> > You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it
later.
> > When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal
> and
> > then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
> >
> > I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
> >
> > Gary W2CS
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
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> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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> >
> >
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>
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>
>
>From K4BEV at aol.com Sat Jul 27 16:23:50 2002
From: K4BEV@aol.com (K4BEV@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
Message-ID: <cd.1ae6f65f.2a744d46@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/27/02 11:12:56 Central Daylight Time, K4BEV@aol.com
writes:
> the Cabrillo format doesn't include that information
I looked at a submitted log and didn't see the Claimed Score.
It IS there though.
SRI,
Don - K4BEV
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>From headrick at radar.nrl.navy.mil Sat Jul 27 20:42:25 2002
From: headrick@radar.nrl.navy.mil (James Headrick)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Contest Coverage Working Group Guidelines and
Proposals
In-Reply-To: <t83ad26ssmyfq07.270720020826@designet-jsi>
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20020727191849.031f7580@radar.nrl.navy.mil>
Jim, the people that look at this reflector have pretty short attention
spans and don't like to examine in depth. Your 'Guidelines and Proposals'
is 15 pages long!! jim w3cp
>From n2mg at eham.net Sat Jul 27 17:43:52 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
References: <cd.1ae6f65f.2a744d46@aol.com>
Message-ID: <008401c235ae$52b6f9a0$3201a8c0@mikehome>
>From the Cabrillo spec, http://www.kkn.net/~trey/cabrillo/spec.html
CLAIMED-SCORE: n
The claimed-score of the log submission, in integer form such as 1217315 or
19113 or 12.
It's redundant from a final score point of view, but if the robot can start
posting "claimed scores" then this field has renewed relevance.
----- Original Message -----
From: <K4BEV@aol.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
> In a message dated 7/27/02 11:12:56 Central Daylight Time, K4BEV@aol.com
> writes:
>
>
> > the Cabrillo format doesn't include that information
>
> I looked at a submitted log and didn't see the Claimed Score.
> It IS there though.
> SRI,
> Don - K4BEV
>
>From kc5ajx at hotmail.com Sat Jul 27 21:49:27 2002
From: kc5ajx@hotmail.com (Rick Bullon)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Porposal for new contest sponsors
Message-ID: <F73Tlm70rM3TbhyF2fP00021f65@hotmail.com>
We have the technology today that there
is not a need for national organizations like the ARRL or a magazine
like CQ need to sponsor our contests. Most of those who check the logs
and are sponsoring the awards are donating their time to do this
anyway.
Jeff
I agree with Jeff. What does the contest sponsors really do? They make the
rules for the contest ( and are reluctant to change them if we suggest
changes) and they report the results but only for the members or subscribers
at first.
We have the means and opportunity to make contesting into what we want it to
be after all are not the contests really our contest and not theirs? They
are not really interested in the contests, they see it as a means to get
members or subscribers, and they can still do this by publishing articles
about the contests and let us run them.
Here is what I propose
Take control of the contests and move the ARRL and CQ mag from sponsors to
reviewers
If we could get a web page on one of the contest servers then we would not
need the ARRL or CQ mag for contests
We have the CAC but they can only suggest changes in the rules. Why not have
them make and change the rules based on feedback from us the contesters.
The awards are sponsored and distributed by volunteers so we need to help
them do a better job (suggestions here please). I do admit the Dan N1ND at
the ARRL contest section does an excellent job we do need him and his
assistants. Is it possible to get Dan to do this outside of the ARRL?
I am not sure who does the awards for the CQ contests but I know their
record for getting awards and plaques to the winner's is not very good. What
needs to be done to help them do a better job???
As far as log checking I believe that Tree N6TR wrote the log checking
software for most of the contests and he wrote the software for the robot
for log submissions I am not sure who owns the rights to the software, but
if we could get this software and something like what the ARRL is doing on
the website to report the scores it would be great. Who did the programming
on the ARRL web page?
I also like K1TTT's suggestion of real time reporting in the internet. The
WRTC team proved it can be done on a small scale can't it be done for a
larger contest?? Some might say that real time reports like what the WRTC
did would promote cheating but I think that those who cheat will always find
a way to break the rules and that the cheaters are few compared to the
numbers of honest contesters.
I think over all that the changes the ARRL has made on their website is
great but the resource they provide there should be available to all
contesters not not to the members only. I understand why they do it that way
but I feel the membership in the ARRL is more than the contests
they do a great job and we need them for what they do. I don't think that
making the contest site available to all will hurt membership, but it is
becoming and valuable tool to contesting, either open it up to all or let it
be moved to a contest site like I proposed above
Another idea I have is after the contest deadline for logs be it 15 or 30
days, that the logs submitted be available on line in a form we can sort
like we can sort the scores are on the ARRL website this way we can digest
what the other stations are doing and when to help us be better in the next
contest.
These are just my suggestions feel free to tear it apart and discuss it.
Maybe we can come up with a resource for all to use to make contesting
better for us all.
73
Rick
KC5AJX
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>From n3bb at mindspring.com Sat Jul 27 16:39:56 2002
From: n3bb@mindspring.com (Jim George)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] N5KO's proposal to shorten the results availability
Message-ID: <v02120d0ab968c35abc1c@EIM-Mac-1.5tcp>
In general, I support Trey's efforts. "If you're not making progress,
you're moving backwards." The points by Dave, G4BUO, regarding more time
for overseas logs seems like a valid point, but as a general rule, people
either prepare their contest results right away, or put if off until the
deadline, when they have forgotten the details. For me, a 30 days period
to get in the results from anywhere in the world by postal mail is
adequate, and this should enable the results to be analyzed and posted on
the internet sooner. The magazine articles can come sooner as well.
73,
Jim
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Sat Jul 27 16:47:34 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Porposal for new contest sponsors
References: <F73Tlm70rM3TbhyF2fP00021f65@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <00fc01c235b7$37bb1510$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
>I agree with Jeff. What does the contest sponsors really do? They make the
>rules for the contest ( and are reluctant to change them if we suggest
>changes) and they report the results but only for the members or
subscribers
>at first.
>We have the means and opportunity to make contesting into what we want it
to
>be after all are not the contests really our contest and not theirs? They
>are not really interested in the contests, they see it as a means to get
>members or subscribers, and they can still do this by publishing articles
>about the contests and let us run them.
Very strong ideas - I like many of them!
I, like you, think that the contest community could evolve into a sort of
"open source contest scoring and analysis community". I also think that much
of what you are saying will come to pass fairly soon but probably not right
at the moment. It will take a bit of time for the momentum to build. You
might find that some of your suggestions are embedded - but not
transparently - in the proposal we recently placed before the ARRL BoD. Have
a look at the section on 3rd party activities and availability of contest
logs in http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
If contestant logs were made available to 3rd parties any number of
different rule sets can be tried and tested on them giving us an opportunity
to explore new rules without disturbing the 'classic' rules for the time
being. In fact, as a community all we really need to do is submit our logs
to the contest sponsor and to a central public repository. However, it would
be nice if we did not have to duplicate our efforts. Thus the proposal to
the ARRL BoD proposes that ARRL contest logs be made available to 3rd
parties provided certain privacy & security issues are respected. Also
contestants should be allowed to "opt out" of making their logs available to
3rd parties Open source logs with open source scoring and analysis software
could open many unique doors for us to explore the future face of contesting
now!
I say - let the evolution begin! :-)
.. sylvan
????
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Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From n6ws at charter.net Sat Jul 27 15:55:33 2002
From: n6ws@charter.net (Bill Shell)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Station in CO or NM
Message-ID: <BGECJAFKJHPEIEKNBLKMIEIGECAA.n6ws@charter.net>
Hello All,
Are there any contest stations in Northern New Mexico or Southern Colorado
planning for a multi-single or multi-multi operation during CQWW CW? I'm
planning on being in the Trinidad, CO area during the contest, and would
like to participate with a group in the area.
73, Bill
N6WS
n6ws@charter.net
>From kshaddri at xtratyme.com Sat Jul 27 18:15:37 2002
From: kshaddri@xtratyme.com (Kelley Shaddrick)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 10-10 Contest Antennas
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020727171203.00a17e70@mail.xtratyme.com>
Anyone have any thoughts on antennas for the upcoming 10-10 contest? What
is all around best, vertical, dipole, ground plane? I've currently got an
all band inverted V at about 50 feet and a vertical mounted on a chain link
fence. While I'd love to have a beam, not in the cards for this year. What
can I add to improve my chances of additional contacts?
Thanks,
Kelley - W?RK
>From w7ti at dslextreme.com Sat Jul 27 16:51:58 2002
From: w7ti@dslextreme.com (Bill Turner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Porposal for new contest sponsors
In-Reply-To: <F73Tlm70rM3TbhyF2fP00021f65@hotmail.com>
References: <F73Tlm70rM3TbhyF2fP00021f65@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <rm86kug8qrgc38f5tf4eg005e00gt6ufju@4ax.com>
On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:49:27 +0000, Rick Bullon wrote:
> What does the contest sponsors really do?
_________________________________________________________
Having a contest sponsored by an organization ensures continuity
over time, at least while the organization endures. To "take"
the contest away from the organization and place it in the hands
of volunteers who come and go guarantees the contest will
fragment and disappear in a short while.
Bill, W7TI
>From k8cc at comcast.net Sat Jul 27 20:50:02 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Recruiting 101
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020727194824.009c0490@mail.comcast.net>
Bill,
I gotta commend you on your efforts to raise teams for the NAQPs. It
sounds like you're having a lot of success and it should be a lot of fun.
You mention W8LNO's 'Midwest Popguns'. Joe was a long-time member of MRRC
and about the same time that he was organizing the Popguns, I was
organizing the 'Motley Crew' Sprint teams. This was the timeframe (early
80s) immediately after I returned to MI from college in AR. K5GO and I
were on 7200 KHz every Tuesday evening talking contesting and we'd attract
other contesters. We started with one Motley Crew team (the name sprung
from the wide assortment of operators we attracted), had two teams quite
often, and occasionally three if I remember correctly.
Of course, IMHO the crowning achievement of the Motley Crew and Midwest
Popgun teams was the 45 minute "New Wave" Sprint we held immediately before
a regular Sprint in 1984 to protest W6OAT's refusal to move the starting
time from 01Z to 00Z to provide a modicum of stateside propagation for us
Midwesterners. We made our point and Rusty made the change. The panic
caused across the USA as contesters double-checked their clocks was a bonus...
Of course this was before you and I knew each other :-)
We need more stuff like this to make history.
I wonder what Joe Warden is up to now?
Unfortunately, we have an MRRC meeting at W8AV's the day of the CW
NAQP. This date was not chosen carelessly, but was the result of 'AV
family schedules. Our plan is to have K8MAD on the air multi-op from 'AV
for NAQP CW QSOs. Also, the following weekend is the OH QSO Party so a
number of the mobiles plan to drive their mobile contest setups to the
meeting so there are some other potential sources for QSOs.
GL OM.
73,
Dave
>From k8cc at comcast.net Sat Jul 27 21:01:31 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Use For The Cabrillo Claimed Score Field
In-Reply-To: <008401c235ae$52b6f9a0$3201a8c0@mikehome>
References: <cd.1ae6f65f.2a744d46@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020727195526.009c3550@mail.comcast.net>
Speaking for the ARRL 160/10 logchecking team, we use the Cabrillo Claimed
Score field an a sanity check on the score our logchecking process
generates. Anything more than about a 25% difference generates a warning
for manual review. IMHO, anything which helps us guarantee the integrity
of the log is a good thing.
Certainly this field is not required since we completely recalculate the
scoring anyways. While its simple for the logging software to include,
Cabrillo converters such as KA5WSS and WT4I generally are not equipped with
scoring algorithms and so are unable to calculate the score.
This past contest we discovered that even some logging programs don't know
how to calculate ARRL 10M scores correctly. Unfortunately we could not
tell which ones - the programs left no telltale marks in the Cabrillo file.
K8CC
At 04:43 PM 7/27/02 -0400, Michael Gilmer wrote:
>From the Cabrillo spec, http://www.kkn.net/~trey/cabrillo/spec.html
>
>
>CLAIMED-SCORE: n
>The claimed-score of the log submission, in integer form such as 1217315 or
>19113 or 12.
>
>
>It's redundant from a final score point of view, but if the robot can start
>posting "claimed scores" then this field has renewed relevance.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <K4BEV@aol.com>
>To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 3:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
>
>
> > In a message dated 7/27/02 11:12:56 Central Daylight Time, K4BEV@aol.com
> > writes:
> >
> >
> > > the Cabrillo format doesn't include that information
> >
> > I looked at a submitted log and didn't see the Claimed Score.
> > It IS there though.
> > SRI,
> > Don - K4BEV
> >
>
>
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>From lz4ax at psu.edu Sat Jul 27 21:40:12 2002
From: lz4ax@psu.edu (Alexander Avramov)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207271341.g6RDfphF003289@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <002e01c235cf$561dc850$0100a8c0@computer>
N2MG wrote :
>
> I don't think this is what makes a "membership" organization tick. ARRL
> sponsors the contests precisely TO attract membership. They don't have
> members so they can sponsor contests. In fact, there are plenty at HQ
who
> would rather not have contests at all.
>
> > I doubt if this is accomplished by penalizing non-ARRL entries.
>
> Since we're talking about lemonade, I'd say they don't penalize non-member
> entries, but rather, they reward member entries.
>
> I'm sure it's no small thorn in the ARRL's side that non-members expect to
> be treated with the same respect that members are. Can't really fault the
> League for that. And I really don't fault non-USA folks for not joining
the
> ARRL but I do fault them for expecting equal treatment (maybe that's the
> American in me talking?). Sure, ARRL "needs" as many DX ops as possible
to
> operate in their contests in order to make the contests attractive enough
> that folks will have fun - fun which will inspire some of these same folks
> to become members. If they ever conclude that fun-contests does not
equate
> to new-members, bye-bye (ARRL sponsorship of) contests.
>
> 73 Mike N2MG
Mike,
are you serious or ... just kidding ?
Alex LZ4AX/AA3AX
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Jul 27 22:23:16 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207271341.g6RDfrhF003292@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <002a01c235d5$8e9c2860$03010a0a@office1>
Gary,
Sorry to be so long to reply, out some LookOut, er, Outlook Express problems
all day.
I think the key disagreement we have is over the current level of available
technology and human interaction with it. I am simply not convinced that
the hardware & software technology exists today to permit the level of
automation that would easily permit a contest comittee to process thousands
of logs with minimal fuss. Let me stress that I specifically intend "exists
today." Next year, two or three years from now, things may change.
Now I have tremendous respect for the work that Trey has done with Cabrillo
and the various logging robots. These improvements have certainly made
sending in the log electronically both simple and a pleasure -- when
everything works right. But sometimes things don't... it cost me the WPA
section in the ARRL DX SSB contest a couple of years ago when the log I sent
in as Low Power got received at ARRL as High Power (changing me from 1st
Place LP to 2nd Place HP -- and that's very frustrating when you consider my
antennas are just a couple of verticals!). Even with the long lead times,
by the time I became aware of the error it was too late to fix it (and
that's not N1ND's fault, I should have checked it sooner). If we shorten
the entry deadline from 30/31 to 15 days, we decrease the amount of time
that errors like that can be caught and corrected.
Yes, there will be procrastinators (of which I'm a master) who will always
put off sending in the log until the last day or two. That won't change be
it 30 days, 15 days, or 5 days.
I also think you may be underestimating the problems of Internet access in
much of the world. I've heard privately from quite a few that this is
currently a major problem for some of the contest teams who activate some of
the rarer spots. Again, this is not going to be true a few years from now
(I hope) but it will be for the short term.
I know a few people are suggesting that some of the things done at WRTC
(such as real-time monitoring, if I remember correctly) be implemented in
the near future. This can be a major problem for quite a few contesters.
I'm still on a dial-up connection (can't get DSL yet and I'm not letting
that !@#%^&**$! cable company back in the house), and I'm sure I'm not the
only one in that boat. I'd sure hate to be told that in order to be
elibible for something more than a check-log recognition, I'd have to have a
24x7 high speed Internet connection in the shack. Right now, I'd rather
spend that money on antennas or radios than on a fractional T-1, ISDN, or
some form of frame access (all that's available to me now, and it's all
expensive). Again, the technology may be available, but at a cost that
many (perhaps most) can't afford.
Are people resistant to change? Yup. Remember the outcry over Cabrillo
when it was announced? Now it's a no-brainer.
One thing I haven't seen in this discussion yet are comments from someone
who is on one of the contest committees (or if they have, they haven't
overtly admitted to it! <g>). I'd still be interested in seeing comments
from someone involved in tabulating the results as to whether or not a 15
day turn-around between logs received and results published is practical.
I've been involved in a few local contests with tabulating logs (granted by
hand), and I know how much a pain doing "only" a couple of hundred are. I
can only imagine how much is involved with thousands -- but I'd rather hear
from someone who is currently doing it, especially with the tools now
available.
Now, one thing we will agree on is that the ultimate goal will be to shorten
the turn-around time from contest to results to the neighborhood of 4 to 6
weeks. I just don't see this as happening in the immediate future.
73, ron wn3vaw
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----- Original Message -----
Message: 6
From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
Ron, we agree on one point. We disagree with each other -HI. Although I
like the "for now" part :-) To your points:
1. Outcry: People hate change. We live with it and move on. This is no
different.
2. Yup, I'm that impatient. The technology exists. We should set a good
goal.
3. Uniques: Yup. There will always be question marks. Do the best we can.
4. Rest of world: I don't think it's the problem you and a few others
have voiced. I know of several stations that are rare that are club
stations. Internet access is not a problem. We're not always talking about
individual stations in some primitive, isolated area. Those are more likely
DXpeditions and my cruise ship analogy applies.
5. Encouraging others: I think "immediate" results-reporting provides
substantial encouragement. It's the immediate feedback or reward that
others have more lucidly described than I to which I refer. I agree with
those sentiments.
Good discussion, this. Whether it's 4 weeks, 6 or 8, in the end it's a
great improvement. I think we should do what we can to aim for 4 weeks with
a 15 day turn-in requirement, as Trey proposed. If we end up having to
delay it a bit with a contest or two for good reason, I doubt you'd hear
many complaints! (Hmm, well not from me anyway.)
Bedtime. 73 all.
Gary W2CS
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>From k5zd at charter.net Sun Jul 28 07:01:51 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207271153320.8970-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEFPDLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Good point. The best approach is probably to go for fast turn around of
results/writeup on the web site (for the participants who are anxious to
learn who won) and do a general interest writeup in QST hyping the contest
just before the running of the next one.
R
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Bill Fisher, W4AN
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 15:59 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
>
>
> I believe the most important aspect of getting the results out just before
> the next running of the event is that it serves to motivate people to
> operate again more effectively. IMO, the League would help their contests
> by delaying their printed results.
>
> When am I thinking about CW SS? Not in April.
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Sun Jul 28 03:36:24 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Log Checking
References: <200207270601_MC3-1-848-E994@compuserve.com>
Message-ID: <00a201c23601$18cdc180$772745cf@default>
Dave G4BUO brongs up an excellent point. He fears that everything will be
left to the computer software and nothing to a person reviewing the logs.
Again I can only speak for the CQ 160 Contests but the real objective of the
canrillo format was to have one standard format so all logs big and small
will be judged the same.
With the present situation this is nearly impossible as there is paper logs
and electronic logs is non cabrillo format. I do not have the resources or
time to key in the paper logs and even convert
the old format (CT, TR, and NA mainly). Owners of these programs owe it to
the contest community to get a later version that produces a cabrillo log or
use one of the converters and please get the summary info right!
As for log checking, the tools give me a list of dupes, bad calls, and
uniques for each contestant and the uniques goes even further to highlight
those that from the data base might be busts rather than uniques. I look at
the logs and try to reconcile the bads calls and possible busts. I assign
penalties not the programs. The biggest boon to me is the NIL (not in log
found). I also
check the Dx logs for correct state and this is an area where Dx stations
lose many points. I also get a report that warns me if the final score
before afjustments is more than 10% from the claimed score. I also look at
unique percentage. Any station with more than 3% uniques are reported and
those with more than 7% uniques are subject to penalty and disqualification.
This may be unique to the 160 meter band but even the best equiped stations
seldom have more than 3% uniques. The term unique was coined bty the
Directors of the CQ 160 Contests and this has been a standard since I
started helping Don in 1986.
The new software along with the cabrillo format is moving us to the point to
where the accuracy of the scores has improved dramatically. However
reporting the final scores only has a marginal improvement in our ability to
report the scores quicker. One or two months is the maximum possible.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From brianmiller at xtra.co.nz Sun Jul 28 22:30:07 2002
From: brianmiller@xtra.co.nz (Brian Miller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207271341.g6RDfrhF003292@contesting.com>
<002a01c235d5$8e9c2860$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <011001c23619$73b4b460$e24d36d2@default>
Hi all
I have been working with the Oceania DX Contest Committee on the 2001 results.
>From my experience it would be very difficult or impossible to guarantee the
>processing and
presentation of results for a MAJOR contest within 2 weeks. It might be
possible if
1. ALL logs are in the correct electronic format (a robot is essential)
2. NOTHING goes wrong with the robot process and/or software
3. NOTHING goes wrong with the log checking process and/or software
4. The log checkers and web presentation writers are able to devote ALL of
their time to the task -
not just a few hours during the weekday evenings and on weekends.
The above is a BIG ask!
Lets look for some improvements but we also need to be realistic.
I think 4 weeks is a reasonable submission period. We do not want to discourage
logs from entrants
who cannot make a 2 week deadline. Furthermore some entrants will require
additional time to review
and resubmit logs that have been rejected by the robot.
73
Brian ZL1AZE
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: CQ Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
>
> One thing I haven't seen in this discussion yet are comments from someone
> who is on one of the contest committees (or if they have, they haven't
> overtly admitted to it! <g>). I'd still be interested in seeing comments
> from someone involved in tabulating the results as to whether or not a 15
> day turn-around between logs received and results published is practical.
> I've been involved in a few local contests with tabulating logs (granted by
> hand), and I know how much a pain doing "only" a couple of hundred are. I
> can only imagine how much is involved with thousands -- but I'd rather hear
> from someone who is currently doing it, especially with the tools now
> available.
>
>From K7LXC at aol.com Sun Jul 28 09:33:58 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Porposal for new contest sponsors
Message-ID: <182.bbba91c.2a753eb6@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/27/02 6:11:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
w7ti@dslextreme.com writes:
> Having a contest sponsored by an organization ensures continuity
> over time, at least while the organization endures. To "take"
> the contest away from the organization and place it in the hands
> of volunteers who come and go guarantees the contest will
> fragment and disappear in a short while.
Methinks that one's chances of wresting away any existing contest from
its sponsor would be legally impossible. The ARRL and CQ OWN their events so
this is an idea with no future.
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Sun Jul 28 10:27:29 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
In-Reply-To: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEFPDLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJCEKEEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
I think the reminder article is fine as a reminder and as an enticement to
non-contesters to try their hand.
Personal contact might be more effective.
What's the percentage these days of electronic log submissions these days?
Pretty high, I would imagine. 70%? 80%? 90%?
Is there a way these days to get the e-mail addresses from the contest's
previous year's electronic log submissions and send an e-mail to them about
a week or two ahead of time to
(1) thank them for their participation in last year's contest (maybe
even
remind them of their score and placing) and
(2) to invite them to participate in this year's contest (provide dates,
times, exchanges, links, etc.)?
For the casual or newbie contester who happened to show up in a contest, it
might make the difference between being there or being a no-show. Isn't a
habit formed after doing something as few as two or three times?
73,
dale, kg5u
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sun Jul 28 16:03:18 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
In-Reply-To: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJCEKEEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Message-ID: <000201c23647$e8c52f90$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
A new class of spam! This may actually be interesting though... But if
you really want to try to drag in the casual guys don't just send
reminders to log submitters. Go collect all the calls worked in a
contest from the logs (maybe make that all calls worked more than
once??) and look up email addresses from qrz, buckmaster, arrl
databases, etc and try to get the guys that didn't get interested enough
last year to send in a log back on the air.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Dale L Martin
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 14:27
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
>
> I think the reminder article is fine as a reminder and as an
enticement to
> non-contesters to try their hand.
>
> Personal contact might be more effective.
>
> What's the percentage these days of electronic log submissions these
days?
> Pretty high, I would imagine. 70%? 80%? 90%?
>
> Is there a way these days to get the e-mail addresses from the
contest's
> previous year's electronic log submissions and send an e-mail to them
> about
> a week or two ahead of time to
> (1) thank them for their participation in last year's contest
(maybe
> even
> remind them of their score and placing) and
> (2) to invite them to participate in this year's contest
(provide
> dates,
> times, exchanges, links, etc.)?
>
> For the casual or newbie contester who happened to show up in a
contest,
> it
> might make the difference between being there or being a no-show.
Isn't a
> habit formed after doing something as few as two or three times?
>
> 73,
> dale, kg5u
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From ve4xt at mb.sympatico.ca Sun Jul 28 11:24:01 2002
From: ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
References: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJCEKEEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Message-ID: <000201c2364a$fe9ee060$0100a8c0@joe>
Heck of an idea!
Perhaps the robot engineers could add a subroutine that compiles a mailing
list from incoming e-mail submissions that could then be used (in late Oct.
for SS, for example) to shotgun mail the previous year's participants.
Nothing gets me thinking CQP more than the individual mailings from AD6E,
and we all know how successful CQP is.
Oh, and Jim, how long till FQP?
In all seriousness, though, this represents the kind of marketing savvy that
contesting needs.
Well done, Dale.
Kelly
ve4xt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 9:27 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
> I think the reminder article is fine as a reminder and as an enticement to
> non-contesters to try their hand.
>
> Personal contact might be more effective.
>
> What's the percentage these days of electronic log submissions these days?
> Pretty high, I would imagine. 70%? 80%? 90%?
>
> Is there a way these days to get the e-mail addresses from the contest's
> previous year's electronic log submissions and send an e-mail to them
about
> a week or two ahead of time to
> (1) thank them for their participation in last year's contest (maybe even
> remind them of their score and placing) and
> (2) to invite them to participate in this year's contest (provide dates,
> times, exchanges, links, etc.)?
>
> For the casual or newbie contester who happened to show up in a contest,
it
> might make the difference between being there or being a no-show. Isn't a
> habit formed after doing something as few as two or three times?
>
> 73,
> dale, kg5u
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From g3xtt at lineone.net Sun Jul 28 19:12:18 2002
From: g3xtt@lineone.net (Donald Field)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Contest logs
Message-ID: <01d601c2365a$13eab2a0$52dc403e@field>
Another lively contest - I counted (from my own observations and the
Cluster) at least 189 IOTA groups active, so I suspect the actual number was
over 200. Conditions not too good, but the big multis were over 3,000 QSOs
at the end.
Logs have started to arrive, and I am already seeing a potential problem. I
have had several Cabrillo logs generated by CT, which were empty (no QSOs).
All that is in the file is a note saying CT doesn't support Cabrillo for the
IOTA Contest. I am surprised that people send logs without checking what
they contain but please, if you used CT, ensure you send a file with all the
required data (I believe the .ALL file should be OK).
73 Don G3XTT
IOTA Contest Manager
>From jfunk at adams.net Sun Jul 28 13:36:22 2002
From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] pre-contest e-mails
Message-ID: <004901c23666$88177d00$111b8ad8@adams.net>
K1TTT wrote:
""... But if
you really want to try to drag in the casual guys don't just send
reminders to log submitters. Go collect all the calls worked in a
contest from the logs (maybe make that all calls worked more than
once??) and look up email addresses from qrz, buckmaster, arrl
databases, etc and try to get the guys that didn't get interested enough
last year to send in a log back on the air.""
I actually did this the last two years for the Illinois QSO Party (coming up
October 20...mark your calendars....) and received a number of "Golly,
nobody ever invited me to a contest before" messages in return. The
sponsoring club, RAMS, has been good enough to send the logs to me after
they're done with them so I can do some analysis. If interested, check
their website: http://my.core.com/~jematz/rams.html
73, Jim N9JF
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Sun Jul 28 17:10:07 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #295 - 1 msg
References: <200207281603.g6SG3ohF011634@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <3D444F9F.F6BC08D6@tampabay.rr.com>
:-)
K4OJ
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> 1. Re: WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH? (Kelly Taylor)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> From: "Kelly Taylor" <ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca>
> To: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
> Heck of an idea!
>
> Perhaps the robot engineers could add a subroutine that compiles a mailing
> list from incoming e-mail submissions that could then be used (in late Oct.
> for SS, for example) to shotgun mail the previous year's participants.
>
> Nothing gets me thinking CQP more than the individual mailings from AD6E,
> and we all know how successful CQP is.
>
> Oh, and Jim, how long till FQP?
>
> In all seriousness, though, this represents the kind of marketing savvy that
> contesting needs.
>
> Well done, Dale.
>
> Kelly
> ve4xt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 9:27 AM
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
> >
> > I think the reminder article is fine as a reminder and as an enticement to
> > non-contesters to try their hand.
> >
> > Personal contact might be more effective.
> >
> > What's the percentage these days of electronic log submissions these days?
> > Pretty high, I would imagine. 70%? 80%? 90%?
> >
> > Is there a way these days to get the e-mail addresses from the contest's
> > previous year's electronic log submissions and send an e-mail to them
> about
> > a week or two ahead of time to
> > (1) thank them for their participation in last year's contest (maybe even
> > remind them of their score and placing) and
> > (2) to invite them to participate in this year's contest (provide dates,
> > times, exchanges, links, etc.)?
> >
> > For the casual or newbie contester who happened to show up in a contest,
> it
> > might make the difference between being there or being a no-show. Isn't a
> > habit formed after doing something as few as two or three times?
> >
> > 73,
> > dale, kg5u
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
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>From W1HIJCW at aol.com Sun Jul 28 18:02:32 2002
From: W1HIJCW@aol.com (W1HIJCW@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A Real Breath of Fresh Air
Message-ID: <c3.265b6453.2a75b5e8@aol.com>
Friends, Competitors, Colleagues:
A couple of recent posts on the line-score thread mentioned the proposals
produced by a working group of our contest co-participants. One in particular
caught my attention by implying that a 21 page document was too long for the
"attention-span challenged". That prompted me to go get and read the document.
AND BOY AM I GLAD I DID!
As a community, we owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to these people who are
clearly knowledgable and competent writers.
I urge any and all of you who are even remotely interested in contesting, its
future, and its visibility to go and get that document, read it, digest it
and think about it. And most of all to use it as blue print for constructing
and carrying out the publicizing of contesting to the larger ham radio
community.
The location of the PDF file is:
http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
Thanks to all the authors, it's a great job!
73 de Bill, W1HIJ/6
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>From wd3q at erols.com Mon Jul 29 02:27:44 2002
From: wd3q@erols.com (Eric Rosenberg)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020729010656.00a0f310@pop3.norton.antivirus>
My travel schedule has picked up considerably, and it looks like I'll
be off to places far and wide for the next 12 months or so. I'm
thinking that it might be fun to once again take an HF radio with me
once again -- I did this in the mid-1990's with a long-gone FT-890.
If I decide to buy a new radio for the road (I'm not there yet!), my
choices will likely be limited to the following four radios, two with
and two without VHF capabilities. All four radios have gotten good
reviews in QST, so it may be a matter of availability and price...the
TS-50 and K2 being at opposite sides of the range:
FT-100D and IC-706 MKIIG, both of which have VHF and UHF (no need to
take a 2m HT with me, too).
Elecraft K2 and Kenwood TS-50. Note I've never operated WRP, so the
thought of a using K2 is a bit intimidating.
Comments and thoughts are appreciated. Send them directly and I'll
summarize for those interested.
Thanks in advance and 73,
Eric W3DQ
Washington, DC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 29 10:00:48 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Russian RTTY - Claimed Scores 29Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207291600.g6TG0mc32277@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Russian RTTY - Claimed Scores 29Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cdma@simcom.ru
Mail logs to:
Russian RTTY Contest Manager
Yuri Katyutin, UA4LCQ
PO Box 1200
Ulyanovsk 432035
Russia
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOAB HP
VK4UC 294 2895 112 17 324,240
AA5AU 288 2190 77 18 168,630
WX4TM 193 1500 72 108,000
K4WW 150 1205 61 6 73,505 KCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOAB LP
PA5AT 289 1835 27 17 267,910
VE9DX 183 1445 86 12 124,270
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOSB/20 LP
F6FJE 190 1155 66 36 76,230
SV1XV 49 295 36 4 10,620
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOSB/20 QRP
WA6BOB 35 245 10 2 2,450
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 29 10:01:56 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IOTA Contest - Claimed Scores 29Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207291601.g6TG1uF32293@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IOTA Contest - Claimed Scores 29Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: hf.contests@rsgb.org.uk
Mail logs to:
RSGB IOTA Contest
PO Box 9
Potters Bar, Herts EN6 3RH
England
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
PI4HQ 1242 230 1151 276 24 7,464,006
OZ0RM(@OZ1ING) 1268 149 671 132 24 3,232,905 WWYC
K3WW 266 92 411 99 17 1,043,433 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)12CW HP
AA3B 341 116 0 0 7 346,956 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)12SSB HP
FM5GU 0 0 1210 129 10 845,982 The Pordenone Gangst
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)24Mixed LP
WN6K 59 37 65 46 16 130,476 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12CW HP
G4BUO 717 200 0 0 12 984,600
VE3KZ 537 111 0 0 12 415,251
F5IN 220 77 0 0 6 127,512 U.F.T.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12CW LP
T93Y 440 148 0 0 602,064 Sarajevo Contest Gro
F6IRF 308 137 0 0 12 448,812
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12Mixed HP
N2ED 363 64 100 64 8 472,059 FRC
VO1TA(VO1WET) 10 8 545 83 10 352,443
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12Mixed LP
G0MTN 288 66 382 133 12 942,066 WWYC
PA5AT 33 14 126 60 6 113,442
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12SSB HP
EA5DFV 0 0 528 95 10 381,900
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12SSB LP
W1DAD 0 0 220 102 12 219,096 YCCC
VE3BUC 0 0 63 40 2 29,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24CW HP
HB9CZF 507 213 0 0 18 1,065,213
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24CW LP
9A7P(9A6XX) 1011 244 0 0 24 1,840,980 WWYC
HB9ARF 339 140 0 0 490,140
W4SAA/P 748 86 0 0 21 340,560 FCG
KP4AH(WP3C) 512 63 0 0 13 169,344
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24Mixed HP
M6T(G4PIQ) 1125 168 1099 230 24 4,787,940
K9NW(@K9UWA) 548 146 534 135 24 2,473,362 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24SSB HP
VK2CZ 0 0 262 72 154,224
Operators:
K3WW AA3ZE,K3WW
OZ0RM OH3RM,OZ1AA,OZ1ING
PI4HQ HA1AG,ON4IA,ON5UM,ON6CC,ON6NL,PA7BT
>From tavan at tibco.com Mon Jul 29 10:31:28 2002
From: tavan@tibco.com (Rick Tavan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020729010656.00a0f310@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <3D456DE0.8000407@tibco.com>
Hello, Eric. The K2/100 is a full-power, high performance, contest-grade
radio. Its receiver is better than the "big rigs" including my own
FT-1000MP. The QSK is outstanding as is the transmitted voice quality.
You can turn the power down to QRP levels wth a front-panel control and
the 100w amp is bypassed completely so the rig runs fine off batteries
at 0-10w. It weighs 5 pounds, fits into a corner of your suitcase and
runs fine off a 20A switching PS. Customer support via an Internet
reflector, Website, support staff and the principals themselves is so
far beyond anything available from any other vendor that it is really in
a class by itself. It is a kit in the finest Heathkit tradition but the
resulting product quality is far superior compared to current
competition. For those who lack the skills, interest or time to build,
there are professional builders available to help out. In the field, the
K2 set records on every band when Team Vertical took it to 6Y for the CQ
WW CW 2001, a bunch of single-band QRP entries in the same room. Then
the 100w version came out and three of them made half the total Q's in a
record-setting multi-multi from the same location in the 2002 CQ WPX CW
driving various KW amps. It is rapidly becoming the rig of choice for
expeditions and is a pleasure to operate at home. There is really no
comparison. Get it.
I have no financial interest in Elecraft but I do know the principals
and admire them greatly. They have reinvented ham radio equipment design
and provisioning.
Have fun on your travels!
73,
/Rick N6XI
Eric Rosenberg wrote:
> My travel schedule has picked up considerably, and it looks like I'll
> be off to places far and wide for the next 12 months or so. I'm
> thinking that it might be fun to once again take an HF radio with me
> once again -- I did this in the mid-1990's with a long-gone FT-890.
>
> If I decide to buy a new radio for the road (I'm not there yet!), my
> choices will likely be limited to the following four radios, two with
> and two without VHF capabilities. All four radios have gotten good
> reviews in QST, so it may be a matter of availability and price...the
> TS-50 and K2 being at opposite sides of the range:
>
> FT-100D and IC-706 MKIIG, both of which have VHF and UHF (no need to
> take a 2m HT with me, too).
>
> Elecraft K2 and Kenwood TS-50. Note I've never operated WRP, so the
> thought of a using K2 is a bit intimidating.
>
> Comments and thoughts are appreciated. Send them directly and I'll
> summarize for those interested.
>
> Thanks in advance and 73,
>
> Eric W3DQ
> Washington, DC
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
--
Richard M. Tavan
TIBCO Software Inc.
3307 Hillview Drive
Palo Alto, CA 94304-1213
tavan@tibco.com
n6xi@arrl.net
650-846-5214 Office
408-896-0476 Cell
>From wx3m at comcast.net Mon Jul 29 19:15:24 2002
From: wx3m@comcast.net (wx3m@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] in depth score (and log?) analysis using a spreadsheet
References: <000701c234ba$785fc960$ab755142@fpfzqlga>
Message-ID: <00d601c23723$86f9dc20$6501a8c0@donchisholm>
I think the idea of web-accessible line scores is an excellent idea.
On the ARRL scores page(s), the ability to sort the scores that you view is
really great. However, I dislike the HTML/Java interface. It is capable and
user-friendly, I just don't like it, and really for only three (trivial)
reasons:
1. It will only display 25 entries at a time.
2. It involves a lot of data being transmitted and received over your
internet connection.
3. You can only view one "page" at a time, unless you open multiple browser
windows.
I have a cable modem (and a pretty fast one, at that), and many others do,
so maybe #2 is a weak reason. However, somebody with a dial-up (or other)
connection might be concerned about the amount of time it takes to transfer
data back and forth repeatedly.
All that aside, there is another way to sort and view the data, using a
spreadsheet. The forms that are output by the web-page are essentially a
spreadsheet, just formatted into HTML and displayed in your browser. The raw
data that this "utility" uses to generate the sorted displays is available
for download. You can then import the data from this file into a spreadsheet
(Excel). Once in Excel, you can essentially do the same thing that the
web-page allows you to do. However, because the data and the program
manipulating the data are resident on your machine instead of communicating
everything over the 'net, you can work faster. In addition, you can view
all the entries at once, instead of 25 at a time, and create multiple
sheets, each sorted with different criteria, for faster, easier, and more
comprehensive analysis.
Here is how I do it:
1. At the bottom of the DEFAULT scores display list, under "download current
selection (x-records):" right click on the link "tab delimited" and save the
file to your hard drive. The default filename is download.txt. NOTE: When
you view the contest results under their default criteria on the web page,
it is using the entire database, sorted by score only. You will get the same
download options if you enter criteria in the "SELECT ENTRIES TO LIST" or
"CHOOSE SORT ORDER" boxes, but if you have chosen something other than "ALL"
you may not get the entire database.
2. Open Microsoft Excel. You may have or use a different spreadsheet
program, but this is the only one I use and, therefore, the only one I know
HOW to use.
3. Choose FILE --> OPEN --> choose "ALL FILES" from the file types box, then
choose the directory and filename you downloaded from the ARRL web site.
(Remember, the default was download.txt.) Click "OPEN".
4. The next screen (Text Import Wizard 1 of 3) asks how you would like the
data/text formatted when it gets to the spreadsheet. Choose "delimited" and
"start import at ROW 2". Click "next". (I do this because ROW 1 is the
column headers. I really don't need to see them and it sometimes makes the
column widths weird. In addition, they are useless when sorting the data.)
5. The next screen (Text Import Wizard 2 of 3) allows you to choose the
delimiters in the file and to preview what it will look like. Under
"delimiters" check "tabs" and click "next". NOTE: This is because we
downloaded a "tab delimited" file. If we downloaded a "comma delimited"
file, we would choose that option at this time.
6. The next screen (Text Import Wizard 3 of 3) asks you to format the cells
(based on column) to accept the particular type of data in that column. Just
click "finish" and it will choose "general" for all of them. Numbers will
automatically be converted to numeric values and treated as numbers, calls
as text, dates as dates, etc.
You should now have a recognizable display of callsigns and scores. Save
this file as a Microsoft Excel Workbook (*.xls) using whatever name you
want.
To sort the results:
1. "Select" the entire sheet. This is done by clicking the blank box above
ROW 1 and to the left of COLUMN 1. The entire sheet should turn purple.
2. Under menu item "DATA", choose sort. Choose which columns you wish to
sort by, and in what order, then sort. I use descending, that way the
highest values are at the top instead of the bottom, and resemble the way
scores have been traditionally published in QST.
Voila! You can now sort and view the scores a lot faster than through the
web-based interface. In addition, you can create several sheets in a
workbook, each one being sorted by a different criteria. You can compare and
analyze very thoroughly, very easily.
To create multiple sheets in a workbook, each sorted by different criteria:
1. choose EDIT --> MOVE OR COPY SHEET...
2. check the box for "create copy"
3. choose which sheet you would like it to appear before (not very
important)
4. click OK
You now have an exact replica of the original data. You can choose to sort
this data by different criteria, so you can quickly switch between the two
for comparison. If you right-click on the tab (at the bottom of the sheet)
for the name of the sheet, you can rename each sheet based on its sort
order.
After the 2002 Michigan QSO party, I did this with my log for some analysis.
I created 5 sheets, sorted thus:
1. UTC
2. CALL
3. QTH
4. BAND then MODE
5. MODE then QTH
I was able to (at a glance) figure out how many times we worked particular
stations, sections, etc. In addition, I could check for mistakes (see
below).
I hope that somebody might be able to use this information to analyze the
ARRL line scores to learn about their own performance and improve it for
future contesting.
73
Don
WX3M
P. S. This can also be done on a Cabrillo (et al) log . . .
You can import it the same way, and sort by time, call, exchange, etc, to
analyze who you worked, where, when, how often, and so forth.
I suppose this raises an ethical issue, though. Those who subscribe to the
opinion that "when the contest is over, you cannot edit the log" would not
approve of this. However, I do not entirely subscribe to this school of
thought. If there is a 30 (15?) day period to turn in you log, then it seems
to me that the time is given to "check for mistakes" and clean it up.
The level of analysis described above is very useful for checking for
innocent keyboard boo-boos or other errors. For instance, after the 2002
Michigan QSO party, I had 20 separate files - one from each county W8UE and
I worked. I merged them all into one spreadsheet for comparison. I could
sort by callsign and make sure we got all of the QTHs correct. If we worked
AD1C nineteen times (which we did), but one of the times we logged his QTH
as MS instead of MA, it would be easy to spot and fix. This could be caused
by keyboard error or LID ears, but I think it would be OK to fix the
mistake. After all, my reference is my own log, created during the contest.
If an operator looks up a callsign on www.qrz.com to confirm a QTH, grid, or
other vital QSO information during analysis after the contest (or even
during the contest), s/he is using a forum outside of the contest and this
is, in my eyes, way beyond the spirit of honest competition.
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 29 12:59:12 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <3D456DE0.8000407@tibco.com>
Message-ID: <20020729185912.1360.qmail@web10502.mail.yahoo.com>
I have an IC706MKIIG and it works pretty good for such a small
package.
I use mine for mostly mobile contesting and I would suggest if you are
going to do any CW contesting that you get the CW filter. It's probably
not as good as the top of the line contest radios but I think it's the
best of all the small radios ( TS-50 etc...) that are out there....
73's, Jeff
--- Rick Tavan <tavan@tibco.com> wrote:
> Hello, Eric. The K2/100 is a full-power, high performance,
> contest-grade
> radio. Its receiver is better than the "big rigs" including my own
> FT-1000MP. The QSK is outstanding as is the transmitted voice
> quality.
> You can turn the power down to QRP levels wth a front-panel control
> and
> the 100w amp is bypassed completely so the rig runs fine off
> batteries
> at 0-10w. It weighs 5 pounds, fits into a corner of your suitcase and
>
> runs fine off a 20A switching PS. Customer support via an Internet
> reflector, Website, support staff and the principals themselves is so
>
> far beyond anything available from any other vendor that it is really
> in
> a class by itself. It is a kit in the finest Heathkit tradition but
> the
> resulting product quality is far superior compared to current
> competition. For those who lack the skills, interest or time to
> build,
> there are professional builders available to help out. In the field,
> the
> K2 set records on every band when Team Vertical took it to 6Y for the
> CQ
> WW CW 2001, a bunch of single-band QRP entries in the same room. Then
>
> the 100w version came out and three of them made half the total Q's
> in a
> record-setting multi-multi from the same location in the 2002 CQ WPX
> CW
> driving various KW amps. It is rapidly becoming the rig of choice for
>
> expeditions and is a pleasure to operate at home. There is really no
> comparison. Get it.
>
> I have no financial interest in Elecraft but I do know the principals
>
> and admire them greatly. They have reinvented ham radio equipment
> design
> and provisioning.
>
> Have fun on your travels!
>
> 73,
>
> /Rick N6XI
>
> Eric Rosenberg wrote:
>
> > My travel schedule has picked up considerably, and it looks like
> I'll
> > be off to places far and wide for the next 12 months or so. I'm
> > thinking that it might be fun to once again take an HF radio with
> me
> > once again -- I did this in the mid-1990's with a long-gone FT-890.
> >
> > If I decide to buy a new radio for the road (I'm not there yet!),
> my
> > choices will likely be limited to the following four radios, two
> with
> > and two without VHF capabilities. All four radios have gotten good
> > reviews in QST, so it may be a matter of availability and
> price...the
> > TS-50 and K2 being at opposite sides of the range:
> >
> > FT-100D and IC-706 MKIIG, both of which have VHF and UHF (no need
> to
> > take a 2m HT with me, too).
> >
> > Elecraft K2 and Kenwood TS-50. Note I've never operated WRP, so
> the
> > thought of a using K2 is a bit intimidating.
> >
> > Comments and thoughts are appreciated. Send them directly and I'll
>
> > summarize for those interested.
> >
> > Thanks in advance and 73,
> >
> > Eric W3DQ
> > Washington, DC
> > _______________________________________________
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> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> Richard M. Tavan
> TIBCO Software Inc.
> 3307 Hillview Drive
> Palo Alto, CA 94304-1213
>
> tavan@tibco.com
> n6xi@arrl.net
> 650-846-5214 Office
> 408-896-0476 Cell
>
>
>
>
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>From john-k1rc at juno.com Mon Jul 29 16:45:45 2002
From: john-k1rc@juno.com (john-k1rc@juno.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MSC Smart Keyer III vs AEA MM-3
Message-ID: <20020729.154545.-468455.1.john-k1rc@juno.com>
Hi all,
I have an AEA MM-3 keyer which is serving me
very well. (Has yet to give me any trouble in years
of contest and general use)
I was surfing around to see what was new out there
and came across the MSC Smart Keyer III.
Spec wise, it looks pretty comparable to the MM-3
and I was wondering what users think of the Smart
Keyer, and if it would be worth "upgrading" to
the Smart Keyer from the MM-3.
I've never seen any Smart Keyers for sale on any
of the swap pages, so can I assume the owners
are "hanging" on to the Smart Keyers as are
the MM-3 owners (like myself)?
Tell me what you think about either unit.
Thanks for your input.
73,
John K1RC
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>From pa5mw at home.nl Mon Jul 29 22:52:07 2002
From: pa5mw@home.nl (M. van Wijk)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020729010656.00a0f310@pop3.norton.antivirus>
<3D456DE0.8000407@tibco.com>
Message-ID: <01d201c23739$6b82e840$0b01a8c0@home.nl>
. It is rapidly becoming the rig of choice for
> expeditions and is a pleasure to operate at home. There is really no
> comparison. Get it.
I will second that!
'73 Mark, PA5MW
K2 #2036 (& FT1000MP + Inrad mods, filters etc.....)
>From TOMK5RC at aol.com Mon Jul 29 20:05:39 2002
From: TOMK5RC@aol.com (TOMK5RC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K5KG Recuperating
Message-ID: <15b.11ac2bec.2a772443@aol.com>
George, K5KG (J75KG) underwent brain surgery at the Mayo Clinic this morning.
The surgery was successful. He is awake and alert and complaining. He will
not be out of ICU for at least a day. When I get room information I will pass
it along. He will be in MN for the next ten days.
Well-wishers might want to drop him an email at GeorgeK5KG@aol.com.
Tom, K5RC
PS - He was not able to convince the surgeons to implant a Heil headset,
while they were boring a hole in his head.
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Jul 29 22:11:42 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
Message-ID: <3D45E7CE.1DA3B5DE@tampabay.rr.com>
FOR OVER A YEAR NOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT EVERYBODY GOES TO THE cq ww
SITE AND THERE IS NO REASON WHY I SHOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM...
This past I changed by browser for Explorer to Navigator and I still get
the following message
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.
when I try and go to
http://www.cqww.com/
...what the heck am I doing wrong - I haven't seen CQ's WW site in so
long I do not even remember what it looks like!
Can someone offer me a better answer other than "you should be able to,
everyone else can"
Thanks,
Jim, K4OJ
>From SunGodX at cox.net Mon Jul 29 20:28:12 2002
From: SunGodX@cox.net (Dennis Younker NE6I)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AEA CK-2 Manual
References: <20020729.154545.-468455.1.john-k1rc@juno.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c23770$c15f2c60$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>
Does anyone have a manual for an AEA CK-2 memory keyer? I would be happy to
cover copying costs, or perhaps someone has an electronic copy?
Thanks, Dennis, NE6I
>From k2av at contesting.com Tue Jul 30 00:29:00 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
References: <3D45E7CE.1DA3B5DE@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <002f01c23779$3f124e50$0500a8c0@swift>
That URL works fine on IE. Try removing the trailing "/", e.g.
http://www.cqww.com
Might be a Navigator-ism and is interpreting that as an FTP access to
root (/) at CQWW.
73&GL, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim White" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 9:11 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
> FOR OVER A YEAR NOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT EVERYBODY GOES TO THE cq
ww
> SITE AND THERE IS NO REASON WHY I SHOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM...
>
> This past I changed by browser for Explorer to Navigator and I still
get
> the following message
>
>
> Forbidden
>
> You don't have permission to access / on this server.
>
>
> when I try and go to
>
> http://www.cqww.com/
>
>
> ...what the heck am I doing wrong - I haven't seen CQ's WW site in
so
> long I do not even remember what it looks like!
>
> Can someone offer me a better answer other than "you should be able
to,
> everyone else can"
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim, K4OJ
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From ghoward at kent.edu Tue Jul 30 11:36:15 2002
From: ghoward@kent.edu (Geoff Howard)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PJ2 Stn Avail -- CQ/RJ RTTY
Message-ID: <3.0.32.20020730103554.0216cab0@pop.kent.edu>
Hi,
As a result of a cancellation, the PJ2 "Signal Point" contest station on
Curacao is again available for the CQ/RJ Worldwide RTTY DX Contest on
28-29 September.
Full details are available at http://asgard.kent.edu/ccc or from me by E-mail.
Thanks and 73,
- Geoff, W0CG, for the Caribbean Contesting Consortium
>From k4vud at hotmail.com Tue Jul 30 15:53:14 2002
From: k4vud@hotmail.com (Charles Harpole)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Sending in email Cabrillo logs--pffuth
Message-ID: <LAW2-F22mLng8FSZDhd000010d5@hotmail.com>
A nice ham converted my IARU contest logs to Cabrillo for me . I sent them
in by emai to IARUHF@iaru.org as per instructions.
First I got back an automated statement saying that the site was not
accepting such messages.
A little later I got another automated message from ARRL saying my log was
in there, but there are problems... the ROBOT does not accept the HQ
letters instead of numbers! This is way too much trouble, still, even with
help. I like to operate radios, not computers. A pox on the whole thing
today. 73,
Charles Harpole
k4vud@hotmail.com
_________________________________________________________________
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>From coopers at odl.co.uk Tue Jul 30 17:17:03 2002
From: coopers@odl.co.uk (Cooper Stewart)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
Message-ID: <4A590B1FC64ED511B46400B0D0E184F995460E@exchange.odl.co.uk>
I would report this to your ISP as a support call. There may be a local DNS
or reverse DNS problem with their DNS database. As you say, everyone else
will just report it as "It works for me". I've seen this before with
specific sites and we had to chase all the way to a corrupt DNS table in
Canada before we found the problem.
Stewart
GM4AFF/GM0F
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim White [mailto:k4oj@tampabay.rr.com]
Sent: 30 July 2002 02:12
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
FOR OVER A YEAR NOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT EVERYBODY GOES TO THE cq ww
SITE AND THERE IS NO REASON WHY I SHOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM...
This past I changed by browser for Explorer to Navigator and I still get
the following message
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.
when I try and go to
http://www.cqww.com/
...what the heck am I doing wrong - I haven't seen CQ's WW site in so
long I do not even remember what it looks like!
Can someone offer me a better answer other than "you should be able to,
everyone else can"
Thanks,
Jim, K4OJ
_______________________________________________
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CQ-Contest@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From VE3ZT at rac.ca Tue Jul 30 12:20:11 2002
From: VE3ZT@rac.ca (Paul-VE3ZT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020729010656.00a0f310@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020730111740.00bc6e80@pop6.sympatico.ca>
Anybody using the Elecraft K2 for mobile use as well?
73, Paul
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:37:42 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301537.g6UFbgk01024@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
HQ HP
S50HQ 4493 4185 416 24 11,710,400
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
HQ LP
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 23 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
K8LX 456 0 169 6 304,538
W7GG 362 300 44 9 265,742
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 24 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 116 19 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 21 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
K9TM 901 0 109 13 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
AI9T 102 51 15,810
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO CW LP
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
KV8Q 685 0 147 24 290,619
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
W4BCG 75 0 40 6 9,400 TCG
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
K6XX 1264 247 179 23 1,030,682 NCCC
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 19 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
K1HT 399 123 139 9 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 5 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
OH/W7YAQ 273 27 107 72,653
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 13 10,701 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
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USA SO SSB LP
NQ4U 0 235 49 8 81,498 TCG
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
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Non-USA M/S HP
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
J75KG 1654 661 192 24 1,776,768 FCG
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
DF0RU 775 663 227 22 1,116,031 Berlin-DX-Group
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
UT7QF 1934 0 316 24 2,113,408
PJ2E(N1UR) 2211 0 198 24 2,067,034 YCCC
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 20 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
DH7KU 550 0 66 16 134,640 DK0UN University Rad
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
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Non-USA SO CW LP
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
OH/W6YA 770 0 159 354,570
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
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Non-USA SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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Non-USA SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RK4FF 1594 846 325 24 2,637,700
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
OL8R(OK1FCJ) 1187 598 249 24 1,560,981
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 23 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
UY5ZZ 991 304 123 956,032
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 15 463,606 HSDXA
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 8 402,327
XE2AC 225 598 90 8 257,760
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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Non-USA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
VE4YU 360 232 61 19 270,750
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 8 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
SV1DNW 132 58 84 12 43,008
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
DF1DX 141 114 92 13 71,300 RR DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 23 2,342,130 Other (specify when
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
RN4LP 1505 251 24 1,175,433
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
FM5GU 0 1492 99 10 609,246
S57UN(@S52ZW) 430 27 5 117,432 SCC
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
SV1DKL 0 683 183 18 416,325
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
DL4RCK 286 72 8 98,412 BCC
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
DF0RU DH2UHF,DK3WW,DL1AXL,DL7BY,DL7UBA,DL7UFP,DL7UTM
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
W7GG K7ZUM,KC7TWZ,W7GG
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:39:50 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301539.g6UFdoV01033@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
W6YX 446 156 10 69,576 NCCC
W1GZ 252 112 10 28,224
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
VA3DX 388 147 11 58,200
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
W1ZT 373 134 10 49,982 YCCC
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 10 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
9A5W(@9A1A) 301 107 10 32,207
WB4EQS 259 124 32,116
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
AI9T 251 123 10 30,873
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K7ZUM 241 118 7 28,438 WVDXC
N1NB 240 105 8 25,200
K4PX 225 111 10 24,975
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
W4BCG 222 107 9 23,754 TCG
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
K6XT 213 98 9 20,874
W6ZL(BIGWAVE) 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
KD8FS 195 97 5 18,915
LP7H(LU9HS) 227 76 10 17,252
K3FH 176 98 9 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 7 14,964
IT9BLB 186 78 10 14,508 TIKIRRIKI CONTEST CL
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
K5AM 169 78 4 13,182
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
K1XX 161 78 9 12,090
IK0HBN 150 57 10 8,550
WB0O 110 71 2 7,810
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 3 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K9SZ 48 33 1,584
K6OWL 46 34 3 1,564
XE2AC 42 27 3 1,134
F6FJE 24 23 6 552
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
PA5AT 18 11 1 198
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
W1GZ N1MGO,WN1E
W6YX K6ENT,N6DE,W6ZZZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:40:30 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301540.g6UFeUY01044@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
KB8U 227 99 17 30,888
K3DNE 167 69 10 15,732 PVRC
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
K8CC 130 72 7 12,240 MRRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE3KZ 126 66 9,570 Ontario VHF Associat
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
K0UK 2 2 27 6 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/2 QRP
HS8GLR 218 9 20 3,924
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
E20MXA 127 4 7 1,016 HSDXA
HS0XNO 97 2 9 388
HS4BPQ/9 44 3 3 264 HSDXA
HS6MYW/1 58 2 4 232 HSDXA
HS5SYH 25 2 2 100
E20JPJ 25 2 2 100 HSDXA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 LP
K8KFJ 26 19 6 494
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 QRP
N3AWS 5 4 3 20
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:42:39 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301542.g6UFgdT01056@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
In State Rover LP
N4PN 676 75 400 57 20 20,876
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In State Single Op LP
KN4Y 591 0 42 0 12 49,644 FCG
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NJ8J 43 7 21 7 3 2,604 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
In State Single Op QRP
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 2 15 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
Out of State Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
Out of State Single Op LP
N4GG 78 10 64 10 9 12,284 PVRC
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
K8MR 52 4 39 4 4,644 MRRC
W4SAA 27 0 23 0 2 1,242 FCG
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
Out of State Single Op QRP
NJ4X/7 32 0 31 0 3 1,984
K8GU(@K8GU/P) 8 0 8 0 1 128 MRRC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:44:04 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IOTA Contest - Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301544.g6UFi4l01065@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IOTA Contest - Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: hf.contests@rsgb.org.uk
Mail logs to:
RSGB IOTA Contest
PO Box 9
Potters Bar, Herts EN6 3RH
England
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
PI4HQ 1242 230 1151 276 24 7,464,006
OZ0RM(@OZ1ING) 1268 149 671 132 24 3,232,905 WWYC
EA5KB/7 0 0 2425 180 2,380,860
K3WW 266 92 411 99 17 1,043,433 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
Multi-Op LP
N4C(@KO4PY) 700 105 117 55 23 839,520
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)12CW HP
AA3B 341 116 0 0 7 346,956 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)12SSB HP
FM5GU 0 0 1210 129 10 845,982 The Pordenone Gangst
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)24CW HP
G3TXF 1250 264 0 0 24 2,006,928
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)24Mixed LP
WN6K 59 37 65 46 16 130,476 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12CW HP
G4BUO 717 200 0 0 12 984,600
NY4A(N4AF) 556 131 0 0 11 526,620 PVRC
VE3KZ 537 111 0 0 12 415,251
F5IN 220 77 0 0 6 127,512 U.F.T.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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SO12CW LP
T93Y 440 148 0 0 602,064 Sarajevo Contest Gro
F6IRF 308 137 0 0 12 448,812
OH6BG 324 72 0 0 12 172,584
VO1HP 190 32 0 0 11,656
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Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12Mixed HP
N2ED 363 64 100 64 8 472,059 FRC
VO1TA(VO1WET) 10 8 545 83 10 352,443
WB2YQH 108 48 117 73 9 303,831
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12Mixed LP
G0MTN 288 66 382 133 12 942,066 WWYC
RD4M(UA4LU) 183 72 136 69 12 432,306
EA5AER 195 41 193 71 12 325,248
PA5AT 33 14 126 60 6 113,442
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12SSB HP
EA5DFV 0 0 528 95 10 381,900
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12SSB LP
W1DAD 0 0 220 102 12 219,096 YCCC
VE3BUC 0 0 63 40 2 29,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24CW HP
HB9CZF 507 213 0 0 18 1,065,213
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24CW LP
9A7P(9A6XX) 1011 244 0 0 24 1,840,980 WWYC
LZ1PJ 690 180 0 0 21 977,400
S53F 790 139 0 0 24 744,345
HB9ARF 339 140 0 0 490,140
W4SAA/P 748 86 0 0 21 340,560 FCG
KP4AH(WP3C) 512 63 0 0 13 169,344
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24Mixed HP
M6T(G4PIQ) 1125 168 1099 230 24 4,787,940
K9NW(@K9UWA) 548 146 534 135 24 2,473,362 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24Mixed LP
S51NZ 149 69 202 102 645,867
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24SSB HP
GM0F(GM4AFF) 0 0 1520 231 24 2,021,481
VK2CZ 0 0 262 72 154,224
Operators:
K3WW AA3ZE,K3WW
N4C KO4PY,N4YDU
OZ0RM OH3RM,OZ1AA,OZ1ING
PI4HQ HA1AG,ON4IA,ON5UM,ON6CC,ON6NL,PA7BT
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:45:24 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Russian RTTY - Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301545.g6UFjOM01074@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Russian RTTY - Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cdma@simcom.ru
Mail logs to:
Russian RTTY Contest Manager
Yuri Katyutin, UA4LCQ
PO Box 1200
Ulyanovsk 432035
Russia
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOAB HP
VK4UC 294 2895 112 17 324,240
AA5AU 288 2190 77 18 168,630
WX4TM 193 1500 72 108,000
K4WW 150 1205 61 6 73,505 KCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOAB LP
PA5AT 289 1835 27 17 267,910
VE9DX 183 1445 86 12 124,270
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOSB/20 LP
F6FJE 190 1155 66 36 76,230
M0BEX 119 705 57 13 40,185 CDXC (UK)
SV1XV 49 295 36 4 10,620
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOSB/20 QRP
WA6BOB 35 245 10 2 2,450
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:47:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301547.g6UFln001083@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in the summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
VE5RI 527 1214 41 40 24 818,424
KA6BIM 251 440 35 33 24 373,048 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
VE7AVV 0 809 0 40 15 198,960 BCDX Club
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
K4BAI 181 22 0 0 27,632 SECC
K1GU 118 0 28 0 4 24,920 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE5SF 416 562 39 39 18 579,696
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE7UQ 62 346 17 28 153,540
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VA6RA 1 180 1 24 39,050
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VA3WN 142 50 13 10 6 26,542
W0ETT 100 2 25 1 7 21,632 Grand Mesa
VE3ANX 116 2 23 1 3 18,240
W1TO 67 12 15 5 12,680 YCCC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
N4WSM 0 29 0 13 4,550 TCG
K1VU 0 38 0 10 3,380 YCCC
W4NZ 32 3 9 2 3,300
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
VE3XAX 334 114 37 24 208,864 U-VE Contest Club
WB6BWZ 26 13 9 4 8 4,862 SECC
AA0XJ 19 5 7 3 5 2,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
VE3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 56 41 6 9 12 9,870
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
KA6BIM KA6BIM,NT6K
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From rw9up at tck.ru Tue Jul 30 17:45:46 2002
From: rw9up@tck.ru (A.Polevik)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] looking for info
Message-ID: <000d01c237e8$8e186920$0dc8c80a@sotel.kem>
I want to subscribe a QST and other hams magazines, but cannot find any info
how to do it. Please help me to fined any site or so.
Best regards
Anatoly
RW9UP
Mail to: rw9up@tck.ru
www.rw9up.ru
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>From n2mg at eham.net Tue Jul 30 12:06:30 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] looking for info
Message-ID:
<20020730110630.28547.h010.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Anatoly,
QST/ARRL:
http://www.arrl.org/join.html
CQ Magazine:
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/
(Click "subscribe link" at far upper left)
Try searching the www.eham.net links database for
other organizations (RSGB, etc.):
http://www.eham.net/links
73 Mike N2MG
RW9UP wrote:
> I want to subscribe a QST and other hams
> magazines, but cannot find any info how to do it.
> Please help me to fined any site or so.
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From steve at oakcom.com Tue Jul 30 15:56:05 2002
From: steve@oakcom.com (Steve Maki)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
In-Reply-To: <3D45E7CE.1DA3B5DE@tampabay.rr.com>
References: <3D45E7CE.1DA3B5DE@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <i9odkugfib83823s0tubns5ll8piu3f22u@4ax.com>
K4OJ wrote:
>FOR OVER A YEAR NOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT EVERYBODY GOES TO THE cq ww
>SITE AND THERE IS NO REASON WHY I SHOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM...
>
>This past I changed by browser for Explorer to Navigator and I still get
>the following message
>
>
>Forbidden
>
>You don't have permission to access / on this server.
>
>
>when I try and go to
>
>http://www.cqww.com/
>
>
>...what the heck am I doing wrong - I haven't seen CQ's WW site in so
>long I do not even remember what it looks like!
>
>Can someone offer me a better answer other than "you should be able to,
>everyone else can"
Try this as a workaround:
http://209.1.5.209
You should see a list of sites hosted by jzap.com. Click on cqww.com.
Apparently these sites do not have their own ip addresses. This is a
relatively new style of hosting, so your browser must be a late enough
version to understand how this works. If you are in fact using a recent
version, then complain to your ISP.
--
Steve K8LX
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Tue Jul 30 15:25:44 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Sending in email Cabrillo logs--pffuth
References: <200207301602.g6UG2QhF021003@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <032901c237fa$aa281360$03010a0a@office1>
Charles,
What software are you and/or your friend using? I used CT 9.7 during the
IARU and had no trouble with either the generated Cabrillo file nor sending
it to HQ, even with the Hq letters. (I had a different problem with the log
that was my screw-up, and the robot took the correction without a hitch too)
73, ron wn3vaw
Name Barry Manilow's Greatest Hit:
(1) "Like a Good Neighbor, State Farm is There"
(2) "I'm Stuck On a Band-Aid & A Band-Aid's Stuck on Me"
(3) "You Deserve A Break Today..."
From: "Charles Harpole" <k4vud@hotmail.com>
To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Sending in email Cabrillo logs--pffuth
A nice ham converted my IARU contest logs to Cabrillo for me . I sent them
in by emai to IARUHF@iaru.org as per instructions.
First I got back an automated statement saying that the site was not
accepting such messages.
A little later I got another automated message from ARRL saying my log was
in there, but there are problems... the ROBOT does not accept the HQ
letters instead of numbers! This is way too much trouble, still, even with
help. I like to operate radios, not computers. A pox on the whole thing
today. 73,
Charles Harpole
k4vud@hotmail.com
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>From MTessmer at axxesstech.com Tue Jul 30 16:29:52 2002
From: MTessmer@axxesstech.com (Mike Tessmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
Message-ID: <EC2530260094D411A5E700A0C9D1C4C90131F723@AXXESSEXCH01>
I think most of us can agree that the searchable database, etc., that the
ARRL now puts on the web is a good thing....pretty cool actually! I would
have liked to have seen the scores and stuff remain in the magazine but I'll
adjust.
What I would like to know is if there are still plans to produce a .PDF-type
article for each contest, with all the line scores and stuff just like one
would find in the magazine, that I'll be able to print and peruse at my
leisure say, on an airplane or wherever?
73, Mike K9NW
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>From david.e.burger at au.pwcglobal.com Wed Jul 31 11:29:02 2002
From: david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com (david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Logging Software
Message-ID: <OFB32B5C4C.2E90D821-ONCA256C06.00836B6E@aap.pwcinternal.com>
A neat lo-cost solution is the MS Excel contest logger - it can log ANY
contest, and anyone with basic Excel intro skills, doing sorts and
subtotals will let you calc the mults, zero score dupes and points quickly.
My version automatically does dupe checking, prefix tracking, zone
tracking, QSO rates and US state tracking and of couse QSO count tracking.
I wrote it for the CQWW and WPX, but it doesn't do cabrillo (easily) - I
heard there is a VB answer to that out there.
My dBase 3+ logger works in native cabrillo and exports the two near
standardised fixed and variable exchange formats for the international
contests. It will log any contest, including IOTA, and will export a
logical IOTA style cabrillo file. The cabrillo exports suit IARU, CQWW,
NEQP, ARRL DX, Oceania, WPX, SAC & ARRL 10 contests.
I want to get these little programs up on a website somewhere - as I sure
many hams would like to use a basic logger without committing money to one
product (like me). If someone wants a copy of the code, happy to oblige. I
cannot help with providing the main Excel or dBase 3+, dBase 4, Foxpro etc
programs though. But there is a free-ware Fbase database engine (US
Fisheries of all places and the Hotel Fidelio reservations engine) which I
understand will run my dbase 3+ code.
Keep in mind these are very basic loggers, and although I'm always tweaking
them (one version has Florida, Texas, New England and Californai QSO party
mult tracking) - they would get you started.
David VK2CZ / VK8AA (k3hz@ieee.org)
Sydney/Darwin
>From k4ab at msn.com Tue Jul 30 21:09:17 2002
From: k4ab@msn.com (Larry Crim)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ "Expanded" Results
Message-ID: <DAV72vrx0twzCRIv7Az00023117@hotmail.com>
I hate to join in the bashing....but...
After trying to decipher the CQ homepage to determine where the "expanded"
results are located, I found there are No expanded results...'cept for station
ops.
Team contesting, top scores in active zones. zone leaders/single op aren't
there.
Oh, but they're "coming soon".
But I have my CQ hard copy issue in my hand.
Is the web supposed to speed-up delivery of results?
Results say no.
I'm disappointed.
73,
Larry K4AB
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>From sm4dhf at telia.com Wed Jul 31 21:56:56 2002
From: sm4dhf@telia.com (Goran SM4DHF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Phone results in CQ magazine
Message-ID: <001001c238c4$0ab6e8e0$d2c442d5@telia.com>
Hi,
just heard from a friend in W7 who got the CQ Magazine that my contest
operation
in CQWW Phone 2001 as TI2/SM4DHF seems to be listed as a winning score for
Europe on
15 m LP!!
I have no idea how this happend... the soapbox comment that is on the CQ
Internet page
is not what was in my cabrillo file either!
Trying to sort this out with CQ at the moment.
73 Goran SM4DHF
**************************************
http://www.sm4dhf.com/search.shtml
log search collection
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>From k3zo at verizon.net Wed Jul 31 18:07:08 2002
From: k3zo@verizon.net (Fred Laun K3ZO)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20020731142403.00b881a0@mail.verizon.net>
People are usually incredulous when I tell them there are 175,000 hams in
Thailand. Why don't we hear them on the bands, I am asked.
The answer is that about 99.4% of them are VHF-only hams. The barrier to
upgrading, interestingly enough, is not CW so much as it is the fact that
the guy who writes the exams for the Thai PTD makes the written exam
top-heavy on obscure facts like what does the Z-signal ZNN stand for, etc.
So the failure rate on the written exam has been rather high.
All this may be changing as the PTD's responsibilities, under Thailand's
new Constitution, are being taken over by a new commission similar to our
FCC, and in the process the Radio Amateur Society of Thailand, along with
Thailand's 75 provincial radio clubs, are being given more responsibilities
in the license registration arena. While this is costing the ham societies
some bucks, it also may open the way to getting more of these folks on HF
where they can fatten the contest logs of all of us, particularly the
long-suffering sixes and other left-coasters.
Champ, E21EIC, along with John, HS1CHB, promoted the CQWW VHF Contest in
Thailand this year and got quite a bit of participation. Champ is rounding
up the logs and helping the contestants to submit them to CQ. He is also
planning to propose the creation of a national VHF contest in Thailand to
better familiarize all the VHF'ers with contesting.
Champ has copied me on his log submission messages to CQ, and I have taken
the QSO list of just one log, that of DOMRONGSAK PATTAKARNGOVIBOON,
HS8GLR/9, who operated the contest from Songkhla Province in Southern
Thailand near the border with Malaysia. Here is his list of QSOs in the
CQWW VHF contest. Will the left-coast logs of the future contain something
like this?
HS9KYQ HS9LVI HS9LVY HS9LCH HS9JPM HS9IPP HS9KGW
HS9KFL HS9LLH HS9LVX HS9JRV HS9KJV HS9KTD HS8IJF
HS9FQG HS9KUW E21PC HS8BRC HS9JEF HS9JVL HS9KJM
HS9CEY HS9LJY HS9IZF HS9LLY HS9JWW HS9LQM HS9BY
HS9KML HS9KWK HS8HTJ HS9IZV HS9JZH HS9EWQ HS9KLH
HS9LCS HS9LQR HS8HZP HS8FOX HS9JWH HS9ERT HS9IYJ
HS9LRW HS9KTY HS9AGW HS9KNB HS9LST HS9LRA HS9KXV
HS8HOA HS9CKL HS9DNV HS9LWK HS9ILT HS9LNN E20RD
HS9HRY HS9ITP HS9KLR HS9KDI HS9KLP HS9KQO HS9VK
HS9LMI HS9CAK HS9EG HS9KDU HS9JYA HS9LLG HS9LLQ
HS9LMH HS9LWD HS6SML HS9KKQ HS9IUR HS9HDZ HS9KRE
HS9CVC HS9KRK HS9FFC HS9CLQ HS5VSY HS9KQR HS8DWY
HS9FPW HS9HXW HS9KJH HS9CUU HS9FLY HS9KAT HS9LPB
HS9GGD HS9KDT HS9LFH HS9BVF HS9KFJ HS9FOD HS9LAY
HS9JDX HS9LDO HS9HIW HS9HQT HS9INL HS9HUE HS9HPC
HS9LDH HS9GQH HS9LAE HS9GAZ HS9IGC HS9KKS HS9LPI
HS9LWR HS9JVX HS9LXK HS1AQU HS9JQQ HS9LHZ HS9LQC
HS9JZR HS9ZE HS8FNO HS9JYW HS9LRF HS9KYB HS8KHP
HS9LTU HS9IAJ HS9IYR HS9KZY HS9IBX HS9LVV HS8LCT
HS9LVQ HS9FZ HS9KFI HS9CFK HS9KXY HS9LVW HS8KAC
HS9KNG HS9EDW HS9FXJ HS9LRV HS9LET HS9JMO HS9LTJ
HS8KQS HS9CQB HS9LXY HS9AVD HS9CXZ HS9BKB HS8KPP
HS9LKM HS9LEZ HS9IHA HS9LEN HS9LWP HS9IPO HS8KMQ
E20LPI HS9AVE HS9CLR HS9LUM HS8GQA HS9LPG HS8JWZ
HS9HTN HS9LEV HS9INZ HS9LRT HS8IKZ HS9LXR HS8KDY
HS9LNM HS9HYQ HS9KKU HS9LFL HS9EPP HS9LUG HS9LSS
HS9PW HS5ORL HS9ZU HS9KTT
HS9KYG HS8JTO HS9HK HS9KTU
HS9LVZ HS8JVH HS9APZ HS9EUZ
HS8DHH HS8KAG HS9JDX
HS9IHQ HS8KNP 9W2DD
HS9LGM HS8AIM 9W2XM
HS9LLE HS8ABS HS9JRR
HS9KOJ HS8KBS HS9ITC
HS8IBN HS8HOH HS9YE
HS8LAZ HS8KLC HS9LPV
HS8JPN HS8KZK HS9KPQ
73, Fred, K3ZO
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Jul 31 16:04:08 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20020731142403.00b881a0@mail.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020731150127.00a7d660@pop3.eskimo.com>
We can only hope so.... :>)
Still won't make up for those Y'urpean mults tho.
73
dink, n7wa
(Pacific NorthLeft Coast)
>Will the left-coast logs of the future contain something like this?
HS9KYQ HS9LVI HS9LVY HS9LCH HS9JPM HS9IPP HS9KGW
HS9KFL ...........
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>From w9sz at prairienet.org Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20020731142403.00b881a0@mail.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207311748100.16810-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Fred Laun K3ZO wrote:
> People are usually incredulous when I tell them there are 175,000 hams in
> Thailand. Why don't we hear them on the bands, I am asked.
>
> The answer is that about 99.4% of them are VHF-only hams. The barrier to
> upgrading, interestingly enough, is not CW so much as it is the fact that
> the guy who writes the exams for the Thai PTD makes the written exam
> top-heavy on obscure facts like what does the Z-signal ZNN stand for, etc.
> So the failure rate on the written exam has been rather high.
>
That's really too bad. You'd think they'd get real. I have never in 35
years heard anyone use a Z-signal in ham radio.
Sort of like asking me as a photographer how to shoot Autochrome or make a
Bromoil. Chances are mighty slim that either will happen!
> Champ, E21EIC, along with John, HS1CHB, promoted the CQWW VHF Contest in
> Thailand this year and got quite a bit of participation. Champ is rounding
> up the logs and helping the contestants to submit them to CQ. He is also
> planning to propose the creation of a national VHF contest in Thailand to
> better familiarize all the VHF'ers with contesting.
>
> Champ has copied me on his log submission messages to CQ, and I have taken
> the QSO list of just one log, that of DOMRONGSAK PATTAKARNGOVIBOON,
> HS8GLR/9, who operated the contest from Songkhla Province in Southern
> Thailand near the border with Malaysia. Here is his list of QSOs in the
> CQWW VHF contest. Will the left-coast logs of the future contain something
> like this?
>
[snipped huge list of HS callsigns]
I certainly hope so!!!
73, Zack W9SZ
>From w7ti at dslextreme.com Wed Jul 31 20:08:31 2002
From: w7ti@dslextreme.com (Bill Turner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207311748100.16810-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
References: <4.2.2.20020731142403.00b881a0@mail.verizon.net>
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10207311748100.16810-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <bs5hkuojsc8voqj4n7nse20ae648f22kce@4ax.com>
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:51:50 -0500 (CDT), Zack Widup wrote:
>That's really too bad. You'd think they'd get real. I have never in 35
>years heard anyone use a Z-signal in ham radio.
>
>Sort of like asking me as a photographer how to shoot Autochrome or make a
>Bromoil. Chances are mighty slim that either will happen!
_________________________________________________________
Being a third world country, there are no doubt some agendas at
work we have little knowledge of. Having LOTS of hams with HF
privileges is clearly not one of their priorities.
Bill, W7TI
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Wed Jul 31 23:40:23 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
In-Reply-To: <bs5hkuojsc8voqj4n7nse20ae648f22kce@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207312231390.22472-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Bill Turner wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:51:50 -0500 (CDT), Zack Widup wrote:
>
> >That's really too bad. You'd think they'd get real. I have never in 35
> >years heard anyone use a Z-signal in ham radio.
> >
> >Sort of like asking me as a photographer how to shoot Autochrome or make a
> >Bromoil. Chances are mighty slim that either will happen!
>
> _________________________________________________________
>
> Being a third world country, there are no doubt some agendas at
> work we have little knowledge of. Having LOTS of hams with HF
> privileges is clearly not one of their priorities.
>
> Bill, W7TI
I guess that could be true. If you really want to prevent someone from
doing something while still giving the apparency that you want them to do
it, you can come up with all sorts of methods.
It is a shame, though. There are obviously many people over there who are
interested in ham radio.
Is Sudan in a similar situation? I know of big-time contest operations
taking place from many African countries now and then, but Sudan isn't one
of them.
Zack W9SZ
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Fri Jul 26 23:56:26 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (Bob Wruble)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] "Please copy..."
References: <20020626200729.12106.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com>
<001301c21d88$8670eaa0$dafc7243@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <004101c23532$591d6210$41c03d04@bobhome>
boy the crap that goes back and forth on this reflector is enuf to give a
Woodpecker a "headache! The 2% of worthwhile info is hard to stick around
for! de w7gg
---- Original Message -----
From: "James Neiger" <n6tj@sbcglobal.net>
To: <discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] "Please copy..."
> And by natural extension, the next step is to preface our CW exchanges
with
> a polite "please copy"? Give me a break, please.
>
> Jim Neiger
> N6TJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck" <discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:07 PM
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] "Please copy..."
>
>
> > Scott Nichols sagely noted that....
> > "I think, for many people, the "please copy" acts
> > as an instinctive "bridge"...." and also noted
> > "..It also seems a little more friendly..."
> >
> > K3FT opined.. What I learned from chatting with
> > the pros in this world is that even though the
> > guiding rule is 'A-B-C' (Accuracy, Brevity,
> > Clarity) when transmitting traffic, the all
> > important, yet intangible 'human factor' must be
> > considered.
> >
> > The insertion of the 'Please Copy...' prior to
> > the start of the message (on voice circuits)
> > helps to impart a small but valuable bit of 'the
> > personal touch' in the mix.
> >
> > Another purpose is to give the recieving
> > operators mind a chance to 'lock in' and be
> > absolutely ready to copy what follows. Even
> > though you know that the other guy is ready
> > because he responsded 'K3FT send your traffic'
> > and you start transmitting.. a 'Please copy...'
> > before the 'number xxx...' and the rest of the
> > preamble simply gives him a 1/4 of a second to
> > energize the brain/body to begin actually
> > writing/typing. The slight delay allows him to
> > move from the act of transmiting 'K3FT, Send your
> > traffic', put down the mic, ready his
> > pencil/fingers, and be absolutely ready to copy
> > whatever you send next.
> >
> > Regardless of how good you are, there is ALWAYS a
> > slight delay from the time you stop transmitting
> > your readiness to receive and your full
> > readiness to copy. The 'Please copy' allows the
> > human factor of a pleasantry to occur while
> > providing that needed delay so the reciever can
> > be assured of having all in place to copy.
> >
> > That is all it really is. What I was taught is we
> > strive for 'A-B-C' but maintaining a small bit of
> > 'human pleasantry' in the mix is OK.
> >
> > 73
> > Chuck K3FT
> >
> >
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:11:48 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQ-M DX Contest - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207011411.g61EBmZ24375@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQ-M DX Contest - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqm@srr.ru
Mail logs to:
CQ-M Contest Committee
Krenkel Central Radio Club of Russia
PO Box 88
Moscow 123459
Russia
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
N1XS(@K1TTT) 674 148 24 218,892 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SMixed HP
4U1VIC 1071 217 530,999
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABCW HP
TM9C(F5IN) 777 155 270,320
N4BP 450 102 17 116,076 FCG
KM5G 152 69 26,013
K9NW(@K9UWA) 157 64 25,600 MRRC
K5GN(@W5KU) 67 30 2 4,680 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABCW LP
OZ0RS 313 82 55,514
M/AB2E 220 88 14 41,448
XE1NW 116 34 10 9,044
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABMixed HP
LY2FY 905 158 319,318 KTU RC
UA9FM 206 67 6 38,592 UCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABMixed LP
9A7P(9A6XX) 349 103 5 78,177 WWYC
YL2PN 284 72 45,216 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABSSB LP
PA3FGJ 156 62 20,150
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/20CW LP
I2WIJ 277 55 8 35,365 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
Operators:
4U1VIC DF5AU,DJ9AO,DL9NDV,JH4RHF
N1XS K1EBY,K1TTT,N1XS
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:12:31 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Anatolian RTTY - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207011412.g61ECVk24384@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Anatolian RTTY - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: ta9j@qsl.net
Mail logs to:
TA9J Ismail Cakmak
PO Box 34
36000 Kars
Turkey
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op HP
AL1G 132 1675 67 112,225
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op HP
N4BP 312 3760 128 12 481,280 FCG
VK4UC 205 3065 94 288,110
YL2KF 148 1680 97 7 162,960
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
F6FJE 255 2930 126 369,180
TA1BM 181 2530 9 278,300
SP8SW 202 2250 113 15 254,250 SPDX Club
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 168 2445 96 7:12 234,720 Chiltern DX Club
GU0SUP 88 1035 58 60,030
N1MGO 79 890 57 50,730
VE3BUC 64 900 42 3 37,800
VE9DX 32 420 23 2 9,660
Operators:
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:13:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Baltic Contest - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207011413.g61EDCm24393@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Baltic Contest - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: lrsf@lrsf.lt
Mail logs to:
Baltic Contest
PO Box 210
LT-3000, Kaunas
Lithuania
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All M/S HP
YL4U 176 139 5 321 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All M/S LP
ES5KJ 138 109 5 249
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO CW HP
TM9C(F5IN) 170 0 3 728 Union Française des
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO CW LP
YL1ZF 237 0 5 240 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO Mixed HP
8S5A(SM5AJV) 114 51 2,10 885 TOEC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO Mixed LP
LY3CW(LY2KZ) 131 70 5 203 Kaunas Technology Un
LY2XW 141 51 5 193
YL2PN 33 56 3 91 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO SSB HP
ES5TV 0 203 5 209
Operators:
YL4U YL2CA,YL2CV,YL2CZ,YL2LY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:16:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ANARTS RTTY - All Claimed Scores 01Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207011416.g61EGQQ24407@localhost.localdomain>
2002 ANARTS RTTY - All Claimed Scores 01Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: ctdavies@bigpond.com
Mail logs to:
Contest Manager ANARTS
PO Box 93
Toongabbie, NSW 2146
Australia
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts Ms Cont hr Score Club
All SOST HP
9A5W 1045 12869 268 6 30 20,696,752 Croatian CC
IT9BLB 948 9664 235 6 30 13,628,640
PY0FF 464 12842 164 6 5 12,636,628 Araucaria DX Group
RN4LP 686 8842 205 6 30 10,878,060
YL2KF 740 7774 220 6 28 10,263,980 Latvian CC
AA5AU 582 9502 179 6 18 10,207,148
W2YC 570 10066 168 6 40 10,027,336 FRC
NR1DX 455 8158 127 6 16 6,271,096 YCCC
K4WW 345 6074 112 5 17 3,402,840 KCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts Ms Cont hr Score Club
All SOST LP
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 551 17467 158 6 16,558,916
PA5AT 540 4987 185 6 31 5,536,270
VE6YR 355 5754 124 6 4,282,776
VE9DX 330 5052 135 6 20 4,093,320
SV1XV 347 3805 136 6 25 3,105,280
W1TO 193 3241 93 6 1,808,578 YCCC
SP6EKS 197 3371 49 6 12 1,780,988
GU0SUP 300 2197 118 6 14 1,555,876
VA3PC 188 3442 89 5 14 1,532,290
WR5O 70 975 42 5 8 205,550
WA6BOB 78 1016 36 5 3 182,980
VA3NA 61 915 35 4 2.5 128,200
K3FH 51 676 38 3 4 77,064
W8RU 29 525 17 4 1.5 35,700 MRRC
Operators:
(none)
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:17:34 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU FD, CW - All Claimed Scores 01Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207011417.g61EHYV24416@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU FD, CW - All Claimed Scores 01Jul2002
Submit logs by: (see your national society rules)
E-mail logs to: (see your national society rules)
Mail logs to:
(see your national society rules)
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Open HP
S55A/P 1296 206 881,062 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Open LP
DK0WT/P(DK2GZ) 910 168 528,192
S58U/P 928 145 24:00 463,275
DL0KD/P 633 136 24 291,720 RR DX
DF0BK/P 667 120 24 274,440
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Restricted LP
GM3POI/P 1152 159 24 631,866 Orkney ARC
DL0UP/P 925 170 24 540,770 L11
G0RGH/P 535 0 24 2,268 Harwich Amateur Radi
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Fixed HP
F5IN 724 126 323,064 U.F.T.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Fixed LP
LY1DS 258 55 3 51,590 Lithuanian DX
YL2PN 100 30 3 393 Latvian CC
S52MY 5 21 1:00 105
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Open HP
VE3XAX 354 76 19 89,224 U-VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Open LP
S51JM/P 170 67 8:42 40,401
Operators:
DF0BK/P DL4SDW,DL4SDX,DL5SEJ,DL8SCG
DL0KD/P DJ5CU,DL1EKC,DL2EBH
DL0UP/P DL1EFD,DL1EFO
G0RGH/P G0DVJ,G0SCP,G3ZQU,G4AQZ,G4EYE,G4FTP,G4WHK,M0CGE
GM3POI/P G3MXJ,GM3POI
S55A/P S53Z,S55A,S56A,S57AD,S57NWT,S57RW,S57UKE,S58O,
S59KW
S58U/P S51VA,S51VI,S53AU,S57LO,S57RR,S59AV
>From w2up at mindspring.com Mon Jul 1 11:40:19 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Seattle, WA
In-Reply-To: <001801c22098$d367aca0$6501a8c0@toney1.al.home.com>
Message-ID: <E17P2M3-0000my-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
And I'm going to be in Seattle (and Vancouver) around the end of
July, if anyone's interested in getting together...
Barry W2UP
On 30 Jun 02, at 19:47, greg and leann richard wrote:
> I am going to be in Seattle, WA starting July 3 thru the 8th.
>
> Any contestors interested in getting together for dinner?
>
>
> Greg K4NO
>
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Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From w7zr at citlink.net Mon Jul 1 11:11:24 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Top Ten Switches
Message-ID: <003001c22122$7250d560$a224d7aa@N1>
I have two Top Ten switches available on eBay. Item #1363268794.
Thanks
Dick W7ZR
Price Reduced!!
Vacation or Retire Here
It's Paradise on the Beach
www.w7zr.com
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Mon Jul 1 15:35:49 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [Towertalk] dead grass
References: <20020630.094808.-685039.0.K2QMF@juno.com>
<5.1.1.2.2.20020630103114.00b44728@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <028901c22147$4585dab0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
This is usually accompanied by a "moisture barrier" presented by the
concrete base. Often it is enough to take care to water a little more
around the tower. When the concrete's "base" meets the soils "acid"
the result is salt, which can damage some vegetation even if
neutralized. In this case, extra watering is the answer.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob, N5RP" <N5RP@pdq.net>
To: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Cc: <k1ttt@arrl.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 08:40
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [Towertalk] dead grass
>
> > > > Is there something that leaches off older towers that kills grass?
> > > > I
> > > > don't remember it happening the first 10 years or so, but now on my
> > > > older towers I have been noticing that the grass is being killed off
> > > > on
> > > > the downhill side. These are all rohn 25/45/55 type towers. Is
> > > > there
> > > > something to stop it??
> ==========================>
> Alkalinity from the older concrete leaches out into the yard.
>
> You do not notice this at first. It takes a while for the leaching to have
> an adverse affect on the surrounding plants that might need a more acid
> soil condition.
>
> Apply acidifier to the surrounding soil.
> Same thing happens down here in the Southern USA to azaleas planted too
> close to concrete foundations of houses.
>
> The list is free to be surprised at this being one of my few sincere posts
> with a content of substance.
> File away if you wish to preserve same.
> Bob Perring
> ...........................................
> Amateur Radio Station N5RP
> mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
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>From kcechura at umr.edu Mon Jul 1 08:06:10 2002
From: kcechura@umr.edu (Ken Cechura)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Icom 706 CI-V
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20020701070357.00bcd750@pop3.umr.edu>
has anyone used a butel IF2 yaesu/icom interface to control an Icom IC 706
(such as memories, rig control, etc. etc.)?
It says it'll work... granted, it will only work with a single radio,
versus the W2ENY version which will work on 4 radios at once....
any comments, hints, etc. would be appreciated.... I just don't want to
pay over 100 bucks if i can avoid it for the Icom brand interface.
thanks
Ken
||==============================||
// Kenneth R. Cechura, KC9UMR \\
// kcechura@umr.edu \\
\\ Station Trustee, KF9ART //
\\ Freq Amateur Radio Team //
||==============================||
>From k9la at gte.net Tue Jul 2 07:06:31 2002
From: k9la@gte.net (Carl K9LA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 and "early bird" logs
Message-ID: <3D218937.6090500@gte.net>
The IARU World HF Championship is right around the corner, within which
WRTC2002 is run.
Just a quick reminder to everyone that the WRTC2002 organizing committee
would like as many participants as possible to e-mail their contest logs
by 1800 UTC on July 14. These "early bird" logs will be used only for
log checking purposes related to the WRTC2002 teams.
There are incentives for doing this, and I encourage you to visit
www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm for the details. Any questions should be
directed to the WRTC2002 individuals indicated on the WRTC2002 web site.
Carl K9LA
NCJ Editor
>From roberto.soro at sia.it Tue Jul 2 14:23:30 2002
From: roberto.soro@sia.it (Soro Roberto)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MARCONI MEMORIAL ---e-mail problems---
Message-ID: <8160937F4F4CD111A93E00805FC1752909C03935@ntsiaexch.office.sia.it>
THIS NOTE COMES FROM MARCONI MEMORIAL MANAGER
IK6PTJ - Maurizio Fiorucci:
I just talked to him about the ik6ptj@qsl.net malfunction.
He was not aware, but now he is and he apologise and
will take immediate actions to solve this inconvenience.
Please QRX for a while and IK6PTJ will let know the contest community
about a suitable solution, may be either the old mail address
will work again or he will supply a new mail address.
Best 73,
Bob, I2WIJ (on behalf of IK6PTJ)
mailto:i2wij@qsl.net
http://www.qsl.net/i2wij/
___________________________________________________________________
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>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 2 16:07:53 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 and "early bird" logs
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12D7D@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
OI2HQ, Finnish Radio Relay League Headquarters station
will send logs within an hour of contest end to WRTC2002
organizing committee.
We will have a real All-Stars M/M effort with W2GD, K1CC,
N6TV, S56A/N1YU, UX1UA, N2NC, G4JVG, G4VXE to mention
a few of our oprerators.
OI2HQ is available in IARU2002 on all bands with several
stations QRV simultaneously.
73,
Jukka (OH6LI, OI2HQ organiser)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Carl K9LA [mailto:k9la@gte.net]
> Sent: 02 July, 2002 14:07
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 and "early bird" logs
>
>
> The IARU World HF Championship is right around the corner,
> within which
> WRTC2002 is run.
>
> Just a quick reminder to everyone that the WRTC2002
> organizing committee
> would like as many participants as possible to e-mail their
> contest logs
> by 1800 UTC on July 14. These "early bird" logs will be used only for
> log checking purposes related to the WRTC2002 teams.
>
> There are incentives for doing this, and I encourage you to visit
> www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm for the details. Any questions
> should be
> directed to the WRTC2002 individuals indicated on the
> WRTC2002 web site.
>
> Carl K9LA
> NCJ Editor
>
>
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From okh.npi at gte.net Tue Jul 2 13:17:45 2002
From: okh.npi@gte.net (Rich Dailey, KA8OKH)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Icom 706 CI-V
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020701070357.00bcd750@pop3.umr.edu>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020702121345.00baee68@mail.gte.net>
>mments, hints, etc. would be appreciated.... I just don't want to pay over
>100 bucks if i can avoid it for the Icom brand interface.
I've got *maybe* $2 in my icom interfaces. They can each control up to 4 rigs.
Get a copy of the July '92 QST article by kg7sg, or go here -
http://www.plicht.de/ekki/civ/civ-sch1.html
Hope this helps,
Rich
---
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<http://home1.gte.net/web22jfw>
Kentucky QSO Party template files for NA -
<http://home1.gte.net/web22jfw/kyqso.htm>
---
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 2 09:04:11 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX CW - NA Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207021504.g62F4BY25420@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX CW - NA Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXCW@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA M/M HP
6Y2A 10297 1295 48 40,300,000 NCCC
WL7E(@KL7Y) 5065 1091 47 16,458,826
WC4E(@W1CW/W1YL) 5205 1095 48 13,995,195 FCG
AL7NJ 4467 1014 48 12,664,860 BCC
NY4A(@N4AF) 4371 991 48 12,232,904 PVRC
VC6X(@VE6JY) 4312 1052 48 12,060,000
W4MYA 4206 1000 48 11,255,000 PVRC
NE6N(@N2NT) 4098 923 46 10,686,494 SCCC/FRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 3716 969 48 8,563,053 NCCC
KX7M 3564 939 48 8,459,451 NCCC
WX5S(@W6YX) 3545 966 48 7,984,956 NCCC
NT6K 1706 3464 48 2,234,280 NCCC
AK3Z 504 335 7 457,275 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA M/M QRP
TI5N(@TI5KD) 3173 895 48 7,500,000 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA M/S HP
8P4A 5723 1064 48 19,020,064 Kiev Contest Group
NP4Z 4290 950 46 12,209,400 FCG
KT1V 3652 994 47 10,775,954 YCCC
WW4T(@W4AN) 3806 998 47 10,666,624 SECC
NO2R(@K2NG) 3223 937 48 8,265,277 FRC
KM4M(@K4JA) 3118 923 48 8,120,554 PVRC
KZ4DX(@N4TO) 3199 952 48 7,785,456 FCG
N0NI 2936 930 48 7,000,000
XM7SV(@VE7SV) 2425 813 40 5,725,959 BC DX Club
NM5O(@N5YA) 2674 881 48 5,604,041 NTCC
VE7GL 2046 761 48 4,588,830
NC7J(@W7CT) 1869 684 48 2,800,296 UTAH CONTEST CLUB
WX6V 1609 651 47 2,617,020 NCCC
KI7Y(@K7ZUM) 1613 565 43 2,440,320 WVDXC
NZ1U(@KB1H) 1232 635 18 2,004,695 YCCC
W4NJK 227 136 31 53,584 NCCC
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NA M/S QRP
N2ED 1537 655 24 2,749,035 FRC
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NA SO(A)AB HP
K5KG 2227 806 36 6,347,250 FCG
K9NR 1567 598 33 2,335,788 SMC
WM6A(K6TA) 1108 516 22 1,345,728 NCCC
N4GG 923 501 26 1,250,997 PVRC
W5VX 1000 499 14 1,029,936
KD2HE 565 325 452,075
W3IQ 463 319 15 408,001 NCC
AI9T 375 963 262,899
KR5DX(K5NZ) 399 272 5 221,408 CTDXCC
VE7FO 125 113 37,968
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NA SO(A)AB LP
AB2E 705 402 24 682,998 FRC
VE3BUC 615 359 24 628,968
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NA SO(R)AB LP
K8KHZ 165 130 51,090 MRRC
VE3AGC 106 98 29,988
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NA SO(TS)AB HP
NR1DX 2291 746 36 4,809,462 YCCC
AG1C(N2GC) 1879 692 36 3,424,016 YCCC
VE1OP 1688 653 33 3,210,148
KZ5D 1811 715 34 3,058,770 Cajun Contest Club
N6CW 1524 650 30 2,372,500
N3UM 1331 582 25 2,071,338 PVRC
W4SAA 1224 552 34 1,821,600 FCG
W6TK 783 425 14 827,050 SCCC
KA2MGE 718 417 720,993
XM4YU(VE4YU) 620 355 19 607,760
K7XN 641 367 541,692 TOEC
WT9U 610 338 10 451,568 SMC
K0RI 449 304 14 327,408
K6III 370 286 12 249,964 NCCC
K6OWL 196 133 8 46,949
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NA SO(TS)AB LP
VE3XB 1256 539 36 2,081,079
NX6T(K6AM) 1360 589 35 1,801,162 San Diego Contest Cl
NA4K 1071 530 1,400,000 TCG
WD4AHZ 1103 514 23 1,387,286 FCG
N4CW/1 841 457 19 1,020,938 PVRC
KV8Q 864 425 33 867,425
N4YDU 734 403 17 792,701 PVRC
K8IR 652 393 27 642,162 BAY AREA WIRELESS
K7HBN 484 354 437,190 WWDXC
NO5W 646 322 36 411,838
N4VI 480 317 17 352,504 Grand Mesa
WV2LI(N2GA) 424 264 6 331,056 YCCC
XM6ZT(VE6ZT) 232 260 4 233,220
W4IDX 313 215 5 176,300 RR DX
KU3O 235 186 15 101,370 FCG
NQ4U 243 180 93,420 TCG
K8MR 78 69 1 14,973 MRRC
N2CU 77 71 1 13,277 Western New York DX
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NA SO(TS)SB15 HP
XM3ANX(VE3ANX) 1464 640 35 2,543,360
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NA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3MQW 506 379 509,755
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NA SO(TS)SB40 HP
VE3XAX 682 357 29 1,058,505 U-VE Contest Club
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NA SOAB HP
FM5BH 3532 843 36 8,623,890
K3WW 2790 768 36 6,501,888 FRC
KN1DX(K4ZW) 2831 788 36 6,307,940 PVRC
KU6W(N6MJ) 2864 866 36 6,233,468 SCCC
KT3Y 2679 798 5,980,050 PVRC
WC1M 2558 788 36 5,857,204 YCCC
KF3B(N3RS) 2589 765 36 5,780,340 FRC
K3CR(LZ4AX) 2507 793 36 5,687,396 NCC
W6XR(N2YX) 2480 747 36 5,423,220
N5RZ 2695 841 36 5,413,517 NTCC
NT5C(N3BB) 2648 828 36 5,286,780 CTDXCC
AA3B 2346 764 36 5,101,228 FRC
N9RV(W8LVN) 2433 713 36 4,601,702 SMC
K5YA 2231 776 35 4,423,976 CTDXCC
W5KFT(K5PI) 2260 794 36 4,366,206 CTDXCC
KR7O(N6TV) 2212 762 36 4,298,442 NCCC
KC7V 2199 758 36 3,988,596 Central Arizona DX A
K4RO 2174 752 3,922,432
KO0U(K0OU) 1680 678 33 2,578,434 Kansas City DX Club
WI9WI 1642 636 25 2,510,928 SMC
WR7HE(K7QQ) 1558 657 28 2,499,885 YCCC
K5ZD 1133 547 11 1,634,436 YCCC
KO7X(@KI7WX) 939 489 14 1,200,006 PVRC
K6NR 819 442 21 796,484 SCCC
KY4AA(N4GN) 812 445 9 785,425 KCG
N6HC 794 428 17 709,196 SCCC
K2UOP 633 378 16 670,572 PVRC
N6ZZ 624 376 18 519,256 SCCC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 617 331 13 407,792 WVDXC
K4LQ 422 337 13 373,396 FCG
NW6P(K6RIM) 627 326 13 344,908 NCCC
WB0O 459 300 5 326,700
K5YAA 384 273 5 284,466 OkDX
N3RD 377 263 4 270,101 FRC
K5TR 457 274 5 267,972 Boring Amateur Radio
AD4L 273 184 7 138,552 PVRC
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NA SOAB LP
NF4A(N4PN) 2156 781 34 4,353,294 FCG
XL3NA(VA3NA) 1808 668 36 3,871,060
KS9K(N4TZ) 1712 664 36 3,004,600 SMC
NZ8O(W8MJ) 1678 652 36 2,699,932 MRRC
N1UR 1440 605 36 2,326,225 YCCC
AA6PW 1399 569 36 1,869,165 SCCC
NK4A(NF4A) 1013 499 16 1,221,552 FCG
WA1Z 947 470 36 1,189,570
K1HT 821 455 15 1,110,655 YCCC
K4EU 810 475 20 1,046,900 PVRC
XE2AC 1019 418 20 1,023,264
VE3IAY 799 385 982,135 CRDXC
W1TO 636 354 18 635,784 YCCC
N7WA 716 401 30 565,811 WWDXC
VE9DX 377 377 5 479,921
KE1F 532 319 28 406,406 FCG
W3CP 429 296 20 405,520 PVRC
VA3XRZ 344 221 255,918
AE9B 404 289 10 243,338 Kansas City DX Club
WA6OGO 431 271 221,949
N1LW 280 209 151,525 YCCC
W4NZ 248 202 142,006 TCG
NR7DX(K7ABV) 260 207 7 129,582
WA6BOB 333 206 15 121,128
K7JWD 390 158 16 61,620
K3FH 138 112 4 38,752
AE0Q 113 84 14,952 Grand Mesa
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NA SOAB QRP
KG1D(K1KI) 862 473 21 1,246,828 YCCC
WQ1RP(K1RC) 840 434 35 909,230 New England QRP Club
N7IR 725 411 36 711,441 Central Arizona DX A
VE3RSA 249 191 135,992
K6SE 278 198 10 120,582
N8VW 140 121 34,969 MRRC
AG0T 135 105 16 23,100
KC0W 100 91 8 17,199
N9AVG 56 50 4 5,650 SMC
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NA SOSB10 HP
KW4CW(N4BP) 954 502 28 1,054,200 FCG
WO8CC(N9AG) 419 295 25 242,195 SWODXA
VO1MP 300 205 10 176,095
WW4M(W4ZV) 222 177 6 81,774 PVRC
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NA SOSB10 LP
KN4Y 323 210 25 112,560 FCG
XM3STT(@VE3STT) 24 24 1,416
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NA SOSB15 HP
ZF1A(W5ASP) 2552 790 5,116,830 TDXS
K2VV(@K4VX) 1687 745 34 3,116,335
KC4D(K4OAQ) 1633 704 33 2,970,880
WZ1R(N1RR) 1352 632 27 2,222,112 YCCC
W5TM(W5AO) 1397 649 30 2,182,587 OkDX
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1363 646 29 1,997,432
N8BJQ 1122 584 26 1,666,736
KM5G 1116 566 1,519,144 ozark contest club
KC5FU(N5QQ) 1033 561 23 1,330,824 NTCC
WS8O(W8GN) 353 254 12 222,504 NCC
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NA SOSB15 LP
N6MU(@N6NB) 927 564 36 1,201,320 SCCC
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NA SOSB15 QRP
VE3HG 98 93 25,203
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NA SOSB160 HP
K1VW 91 65 14 7,995 YCCC
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NA SOSB160 LP
VE3OSZ 73 51 11 13,923 CRDXC
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NA SOSB160 QRP
N6WG 15 10 11 150
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NA SOSB20 HP
FM5GU 1882 698 28 3,459,288 The Pordenone Gangst
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1672 720 36 3,027,600 MRRC
XM7SZ(VA7RR) 1670 714 36 3,004,512 BC DX Club
WZ5V(K0EJ) 1501 672 29 2,404,416 TCG
NI8L(K8DX) 1026 470 11 1,332,920 NCC
VA7XX 583 172 4 100,276
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NA SOSB20 LP
XM3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 645 372 21 608,220 SKY CC
NJ3K 405 265 208,209
W0ETT 281 236 7 150,804 Grand Mesa
XE1NW 166 122 13 47,702
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NA SOSB40 HP
K0RF 659 367 20 812,905
WK4R(N2NL) 561 363 8 812,757 FCG
NU5A(K5GN) 589 340 12 720,120 TDXS
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NA SOSB40 LP
WK4Y 323 226 12 196,168 PVRC
W9SE 326 220 166,100 SMC
WS4NC(N4VHK) 161 132 16 62,304 PVRC
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NA SOSB80 HP
W7DRA 84 56 12 7,616
Operators:
3V8BB 4N1FG,S56A,YT1AD,YU1RL,YU7NU
6Y2A K2KW,KE7X,N6BT,N6XG,N6XI,W0YK,WA60
8P4A M0SDX,VE3DZ
9A7A 9A2ME,9A3OS,9A3TR,9A4BT,9A4PA,9A4RX,9A6DM,9A7V,
9A8A
A61AJ A61AJ,N2AA,S50A,S50R,S51RE,S52ZW,S53A,S53R,
S56JXX,S57DX,S57J,S58Q,S59AA
AK3Z A45ZN,AK3Z,K3LP,N3SB,WX3B
AL7NJ DK2OY,DL3LAB,DL4RDJ,DL6RAI,KL7RA,N1TX
AM6IB EA3AIR,EA3KU,EA5BM
CT7T CT1GFK,CT1GPQ,ON5UM
EA2AAZ EA2AAZ,EA2CLU
ES9C ES1DW,ES2NA,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,
ES5RN,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
F9IE F6BEE,F6FFM,F6FGZ,F8CRH
GX6YB G0WKW,G3TKF,G3XSV
KI7Y K5ZM,K7ZUM,KI7Y
KM4M K4JA,K9GY,K9JY,W3BP
KT1V AG9A,KT1V,NT1N
KX7M AD6E,KX7M,N6KJ,W6NV,W6RGG
KZ4DX K1TO,K4LQ,N4TO,W4IR,W4QM
L75FM LU4FPZ,LU7AWP,LU8DW,LU9DAH
N0NI K0KD,K0RX,N0AV,N0NI
N2ED K2AF,KC2BMG,N2ED
NC7J K7CO,NG7M,W7CT,W7FB,W7WIK
NE6N N2NC,N2NT,N6RT
NM5O AD5Q,N5UM
NO2R K2NG,K2TW,NO2R
NP4Z NP3A,NP4Z
NR6O K3EST,K6AW,K6XC,KI7WX,N6BV
NT6K KA6BIM,KO6UW,NT6K
NY4A K2AV,K7GM,N4AF,W2CS
NZ1U KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
OL5T OK1DSZ,OK1DXF,OK1FHI,OK1KA,OK1QM,OK1TC,OK1WWJ
OL7R OK1VWK,OK1WMV,OK1XUV
OL8M OK1AY,OK1CM,OK1DRQ,OK1DX,OK1FCJ,OK1MR
OZ0XX OZ1BIZ,OZ3ZW,OZ5WQ
RM6A RA6AU,RA6AX,RA6CM,RA6CO,RN6AA,RN6BN,RV6YZ,UA6CQ
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TI5N CX6VM,N0KE,W1XE/0,W8QZA/6
VC6X TI2WGO,VE5FN,VE6BF,VE6EX,VE6JY,VE7AV,ZL1JG
VE7GL VA7AO,VA7OO,VE7GL
W4MYA K1SE,K4GAU,W4HJ,W4MYA,W4TJ,W4TNX,WU4G
W4NJK W4NJK,WB8TDA
WC4E K1TO,K4FB,K4OJ,N4GI,N4KM,T93M,W1CW,W1YL,WC4E
WL7E AL1G,KL2A,KL7FH,KL7Y,KL9A,WA2GO,WL7E
WW4T K4BAI,KU8E,W4AN
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6UFO,N6DE,N7MH,W1SRD,W6CT,W6LD,
W7SW,WX5S
WX6V K6LRN,WX6V
XM7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
YM3LZ LZ1UQ,LZ2CJ,LZ2FI,LZ2FV,LZ2HM,LZ2UU,TA3D
YT6A T95A,VK1AA,YT6A,YT6PSF,YT6T,YU1RE,YU6ZD,YU7EU,
YU7FN,YZ7DX
YT9X YT1RA,YU1JW,YU1UH,YU1ZZ,YU7BW
ZX3S PU3AGN,PU3LOM,PY3BM,PY3CQ,PY3FBI,PY3MM,PY3NZ,
PY3PAZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 2 09:05:36 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX CW - Non-NA Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207021505.g62F5au25429@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX CW - Non-NA Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXCW@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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Non-NA M/M HP
A61AJ 11008 1283 48 45,828,760 SCC
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7408 1163 48 18,438,202
9A7A 5539 1108 48 14,433,916 Croatian CC
OL5T 4874 1062 48 11,420,748
OZ0XX 3047 836 40 5,313,616
ZX3S(@PY3UEB) 1957 684 48 4,175,820 ARB/PY3MHZ
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Non-NA M/M LP
SK5EW 1895 661 40 2,619,543 TOEC
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Non-NA M/S HP
3V8BB 5261 1076 48 19,649,912 YU CC
YM3LZ 3570 890 47 10,660,000 Bulgarian Contest Gr
YT6A 4027 1056 48 10,287,552 SKY CC
AM6IB 4257 1070 48 9,688,520
L75FM(@LU4FM) 3097 887 48 9,081,106
F9IE(@F6BEE) 3455 983 48 8,403,667 LNDX
RM6A(@RN6BN) 3558 1025 48 8,005,250 RW6AWT
OL8M 3229 973 48 7,416,206
YT9X(@YU1AAX) 3340 933 48 6,825,828 YU CC
GX6YB 3281 818 48 5,502,686 Bristol CG
OL7R(@OK1KUW) 6143 895 48 5,497,985
EA2AAZ 1613 644 38 2,169,636
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Non-NA M/S LP
CT7T(@CT1EPV) 2491 768 48 3,866,112 Algarve Dx Group
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Non-NA SO(A)AB HP
OR2T(DL2CC) 3064 947 36 7,433,003
OE2S(OE2VEL) 2560 873 36 5,325,300 BCC
LY2CY 2059 777 36 3,658,116 Lithuanian DX
DF3IAL 1706 729 36 2,921,832 BCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1500 637 26 1,887,431
YL8M(YL2KL) 735 384 7 752,640 Latvian CC
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Non-NA SO(A)AB LP
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 1505 583 32 1,853,940
S57UN(@S52ZW) 1146 582 36 1,463,730 SCC
OR4APU 712 420 24 529,200
M6T(G4PIQ) 350 247 5 196,859 Martlesham DX & CG
DL6LAU 247 171 101,061 BCC
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Non-NA SO(A)SB15 HP
OR4ATW(ON4ATW) 952 506 963,424
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Non-NA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 1234 536 33 1,494,368
YZ1KA 917 454 30 850,342 YU CC
PY2DEZ 27 27 1,809 TuPY DX Group
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Non-NA SO(TS)AB HP
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 3863 838 36 10,293,154 Pretoria Contest Clu
PJ4M(K2QM) 2187 688 36 5,574,176 FRC
8S5A(SM5AJV) 2621 784 36 4,241,440 TOEC
RW4PL 1615 634 28 2,074,448
HB9CZF 880 461 22 1,004,058
OE8CIQ 969 451 17 782,936 BCC
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Non-NA SO(TS)AB LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 2178 640 34 4,444,160 Chiltern DX Club
9A0DX(9A3PA) 2110 711 3,412,800 Croatian CC
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 2192 718 36 3,405,474
YL4U(YL2KL) 1423 653 24 1,892,394 Latvian CC
OM6RM 1021 452 30 987,620
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Non-NA SO(TS)SB10 HP
DK2GZ 701 424 25 524,488 BCC
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Non-NA SO(TS)SB20 LP
IR2V(I2WIJ) 560 359 10 403,516 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
PA0JED 376 310 10 217,620
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Non-NA SO(TS)SB40 HP
M0TTT 1223 541 30 2,004,405
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Non-NA SO(TS)SB80 HP
OH3XR 431 252 8 245,700 CCF
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Non-NA SOAB HP
P41P(K0DQ) 3932 937 36 12,833,152 SECC
P40Y(AE6Y) 3625 901 36 11,059,775 NCCC
PJ2U(K6LA) 3053 814 36 9,362,628 SCCC
SN7Q(SP7GIQ) 3118 869 36 6,878,000
DF3CB(LY1DS) 3198 864 36 6,670,080 BCC
3G1X(XQ1IDM) 2503 751 36 6,429,311
TM9C(F5IN) 2622 745 36 4,420,830 U.F.T.
J41YM(OK1YM) 2746 805 36 4,400,935
OE1A(OE1EMS) 2397 781 34 4,397,811
DF0FS(DL1EKC) 1586 590 36 1,885,050 RR DX
DJ6QT 1099 556 30 1,355,528 RR DX
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1008 481 24 1,220,778
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Non-NA SOAB LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2979 821 35 8,010,497
WP3C 2132 701 35 4,121,880
OK2PP 2205 759 36 3,645,477 FCC
YL/RZ3BY(@YL2KF) 2210 701 36 3,134,872 Latvian CC
SM5G(SM5JBM) 1661 629 36 2,161,873 TOEC
LA3BO 1660 628 36 2,114,476
M7W(G4IIY) 1728 574 30 2,005,556
DL4SDW 1451 593 36 1,825,847 RR DX
HB9ARF 1495 564 1,682,412
OZ8AE 1140 570 1,363,440
HA5UX/7 1068 524 1,309,476
F6IRF 825 436 23 755,152 Yota Sawe DX group
PU7EEL 509 318 569,856 Guara DX Group
OZ0RS 709 364 20 480,480
G4WFQ 533 319 16 366,850
EA1WX 359 263 8 193,042
S51NZ 262 204 112,608
PR7AB 149 116 66,816 Guara DX Group
YL2PN 100 84 2 17,808 Latvian CC
PT2AW 48 44 7 6,248 TuPY DX GROUP
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Non-NA SOAB QRP
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 1550 534 30 2,655,048
OT2A(JK3GAD) 897 494 33 943,046
9A7P(9A5AEI) 140 120 3 31,440 WWYC
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Non-NA SOSB10 HP
HZ1AB(SM0CXU) 2305 669 27 3,783,195
OD5/OK1MU 1554 570 35 2,223,570
9H1ZA 1460 600 30 1,525,200
YZ1AU 1259 573 1,356,291 YU CC
SN8V(SP8LBK) 625 388 21 417,876
SP9W(SP9HWN) 340 268 17 170,448
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Non-NA SOSB10 LP
LT1F(LU1FAM) 1405 616 25 2,557,016
L51EXU(LW1EXU) 1333 578 2,281,366
OH3RB(@OPH3RB) 563 310 21 232,810 CCF
PR7FN 38 38 4,028 Guara DX Group
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Non-NA SOSB15 HP
PU3A(PY3DX) 2531 857 6,452,353 Araucaria Dx Group
9H0A(9H1EL) 2966 956 36 5,651,872
9K9O(9K2RR) 2191 761 34 4,632,207 KUWAIT AMATEUR RADIO
S56M(@S50Q) 2000 803 36 3,547,654 SCC
SN3A(SP8NR) 1652 730 34 2,736,040 SP DX CLUB
DK3DM 1573 732 34 2,618,364 RR DX
OH7M(OH4XX) 1551 682 32 2,200,000 CCF
OK2ZC 1288 627 36 1,731,774 OK DX Club
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Non-NA SOSB15 LP
OK1DDO 925 527 1,065,067
SP4DEU 761 473 22 801,735
PY8AZT 453 308 25 411,180 Uirapuru DX Club
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Non-NA SOSB160 HP
RN2FA(@RW2F) 1014 245 248,430
IK4AUY 123 88 9 21,648 MCC Marconi Contest
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Non-NA SOSB160 LP
9A3RE 272 165 12 90,915
LY2GW 132 104 27,144
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Non-NA SOSB20 HP
TA0/Z37M(Z31GX) 2134 746 35 4,474,508
OH4A(OH6QU) 1996 778 36 3,222,476 CCF
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1502 677 36 2,741,850 SRR
OK5W(OK2ZW) 1740 736 2,733,504
YL6W(YL2GD) 1809 735 36 2,516,640 Latvian CC
SP8GWI/8 645 340 536,180
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Non-NA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1026 554 26 1,687,484 Sarajevo Contest Gro
LY6A(LY2BM) 1250 629 36 1,465,570
S57Z 1120 560 35 1,199,520
SM7VZX 1070 560 1,163,680 SCC
T94FC 1086 549 34 1,112,274 Sarajevo Contest Gro
F5NLY 878 530 23 866,020 LNDX (Les Nouvelles
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB40 HP
YW1D(YV1DIG) 1083 536 23 3,419,144 Radio Club Venezolan
9A5E 1368 602 35 2,681,308 Croatian CC
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1271 549 36 2,117,493
HA8DU 1178 549 2,080,710
9A4X 1058 507 1,607,697 Croatian CC
OM0WR 946 475 21 1,371,800
ES4RD 721 378 701,568
TM1C(F6ARC) 500 331 6 581,236
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB40 LP
YZ1U(YT1UR) 894 471 30 1,163,370 YU CC
S53F 929 450 36 1,113,750
S54A 814 444 28 1,042,068 SCC
4Z8EE(OK1EE) 300 209 15 351,329 Czech Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB80 HP
Z39Z(Z32AF) 774 364 657,020 SKY CC
ZS4TX 101 60 6 35,820 Pretoria Contest Clu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB80 LP
OK2ZV 541 300 336,000
PY7ZY 204 159 190,800 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
KH6DV 147 92 7 77,924
Operators:
3V8BB 4N1FG,S56A,YT1AD,YU1RL,YU7NU
6Y2A K2KW,KE7X,N6BT,N6XG,N6XI,W0YK,WA60
8P4A M0SDX,VE3DZ
9A7A 9A2ME,9A3OS,9A3TR,9A4BT,9A4PA,9A4RX,9A6DM,9A7V,
9A8A
A61AJ A61AJ,N2AA,S50A,S50R,S51RE,S52ZW,S53A,S53R,
S56JXX,S57DX,S57J,S58Q,S59AA
AK3Z A45ZN,AK3Z,K3LP,N3SB,WX3B
AL7NJ DK2OY,DL3LAB,DL4RDJ,DL6RAI,KL7RA,N1TX
AM6IB EA3AIR,EA3KU,EA5BM
CT7T CT1GFK,CT1GPQ,ON5UM
EA2AAZ EA2AAZ,EA2CLU
ES9C ES1DW,ES2NA,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,
ES5RN,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
F9IE F6BEE,F6FFM,F6FGZ,F8CRH
GX6YB G0WKW,G3TKF,G3XSV
KI7Y K5ZM,K7ZUM,KI7Y
KM4M K4JA,K9GY,K9JY,W3BP
KT1V AG9A,KT1V,NT1N
KX7M AD6E,KX7M,N6KJ,W6NV,W6RGG
KZ4DX K1TO,K4LQ,N4TO,W4IR,W4QM
L75FM LU4FPZ,LU7AWP,LU8DW,LU9DAH
N0NI K0KD,K0RX,N0AV,N0NI
N2ED K2AF,KC2BMG,N2ED
NC7J K7CO,NG7M,W7CT,W7FB,W7WIK
NE6N N2NC,N2NT,N6RT
NM5O AD5Q,N5UM
NO2R K2NG,K2TW,NO2R
NP4Z NP3A,NP4Z
NR6O K3EST,K6AW,K6XC,KI7WX,N6BV
NT6K KA6BIM,KO6UW,NT6K
NY4A K2AV,K7GM,N4AF,W2CS
NZ1U KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
OL5T OK1DSZ,OK1DXF,OK1FHI,OK1KA,OK1QM,OK1TC,OK1WWJ
OL7R OK1VWK,OK1WMV,OK1XUV
OL8M OK1AY,OK1CM,OK1DRQ,OK1DX,OK1FCJ,OK1MR
OZ0XX OZ1BIZ,OZ3ZW,OZ5WQ
RM6A RA6AU,RA6AX,RA6CM,RA6CO,RN6AA,RN6BN,RV6YZ,UA6CQ
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TI5N CX6VM,N0KE,W1XE/0,W8QZA/6
VC6X TI2WGO,VE5FN,VE6BF,VE6EX,VE6JY,VE7AV,ZL1JG
VE7GL VA7AO,VA7OO,VE7GL
W4MYA K1SE,K4GAU,W4HJ,W4MYA,W4TJ,W4TNX,WU4G
W4NJK W4NJK,WB8TDA
WC4E K1TO,K4FB,K4OJ,N4GI,N4KM,T93M,W1CW,W1YL,WC4E
WL7E AL1G,KL2A,KL7FH,KL7Y,KL9A,WA2GO,WL7E
WW4T K4BAI,KU8E,W4AN
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6UFO,N6DE,N7MH,W1SRD,W6CT,W6LD,
W7SW,WX5S
WX6V K6LRN,WX6V
XM7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
YM3LZ LZ1UQ,LZ2CJ,LZ2FI,LZ2FV,LZ2HM,LZ2UU,TA3D
YT6A T95A,VK1AA,YT6A,YT6PSF,YT6T,YU1RE,YU6ZD,YU7EU,
YU7FN,YZ7DX
YT9X YT1RA,YU1JW,YU1UH,YU1ZZ,YU7BW
ZX3S PU3AGN,PU3LOM,PY3BM,PY3CQ,PY3FBI,PY3MM,PY3NZ,
PY3PAZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 2 09:10:51 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RSGB Jubilee - All Claimed Scores 02Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207021510.g62FApJ25442@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RSGB Jubilee - All Claimed Scores 02Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 6, 2002
E-mail logs to: hf.contests@rsgb.org.uk
Mail logs to:
RSGB HF Contests Committee
c/o SV Knowles, G3UFY
77 Bensham Manor Road
Thornton, Heath
Surrey CR7 7AF
UK
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SCW HP
N2ED 78 12 2 3,900 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SMixed HP
GQ6YB 2209 83 24 916,735 Bristol CG
MQ5ZAP 2171 62 24 673,010
G4FAL 999 32 159,840
XM4VV 892 33 21 146,850
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SSSB LP
CQ1CV(@CS6ARP) 567 55 12 155,925 Radio Clube Costa Ve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)CW HP
GQ3TXF(G3TXF) 1405 62 20 429,970
K6III 67 19 8 100 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)Mixed HP
LY4AA(@LY7A) 597 80 20 238,800
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 300 23 3 33,925
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)Mixed LP
GQ4IIY(G4IIY) 616 22 9 67,760
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)SSB HP
VE7AVV 102 17 8 1,734 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOCW HP
9H1ZA 1885 75 706,875
GQ4ZVJ(G4ZVJ) 1202 65 24 390,650
G3LET 1190 63 23 374,850 HARC
GW3NJW 1152 51 21 293,760
GM4SID 848 45 20 190,800
N4BP 316 51 14 80,580 FCG
GQ5LP(G5LP) 450 23 5 51,750 Mid Beds Contest Ass
K2SX 120 27 16,200 YCCC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOCW LP
XM3IAY(VE3IAY) 168 25 21,000
RW3VZ 133 26 17,290
HB9ARF 150 20 15,000
AB2E 66 17 4 5,610 FRC
VE9DX 75 12 1 4,500
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOMixed HP
XM3EJ(VE3EJ) 1771 91 24 801,225
TI5/N0KE(@TI5KD) 225 44 10 49,500 Grand Mesa
SP9W(SP9HWN) 245 33 40,425
W4SAA 138 34 23,430 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOMixed LP
VE3MQW 224 34 38,080
ZC40DW(G0DEZ) 558 13 7 36,270 Eastern Sovereign Ba
LY2XW 224 30 33,600
K4OGG 143 20 13,800
GQ0DVJ(G0DVJ) 180 7 5 6,300
VO1TA(VO1WET) 386 8 6 1,930
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB HP
GS2MP(GM3WOJ) 1392 62 20 431,520 North of Scotland CG
GW0GEI 1044 48 15 250,560 Contest Cymru
XM3KZ(VE3KZ) 1021 42 214,200
GQ4BLE(GW4BLE) 711 39 138,645 Contest Cambria
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB LP
ZC40BS(G4KIV) 376 22 6 41,360
MQ5RIC(M5RIC) 409 8 16,360
9M2RPN(VK2CZ) 79 7 3 2,660
SV1XV 32 6 3 960
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB QRP
N3GXY 23 4 1 460
Operators:
CQ1CV CT1ERK,CT1ETE
GQ6YB G0HFX,G0WKW,G3TKF,G3XSV,G4FKA,G7ORR,M0AXF/EI3JE,
M0XXX
MQ5ZAP 5B4WN,M0TTT,M5ZAP
XM4VV VE4VV,VE4XT
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Tue Jul 2 13:34:08 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ron D. Rossi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] TRLog free version 1.06 fully supporting WRTC 2002
released...
Message-ID: <200207021634.MAA29058@johnpaul.btv.ibm.com>
Folks,
The latest version of TRLog Free has been released. TRFree Version 1.06
is based on the very latest TRLog Version 6.69 and is fully functional
except it only supports a limited list of contests. It includes full
logging support of WRTC 2002 including scoring and special
considerations for the "B" computer not being allowed to connect to a
radio. Cabrillo is not supported for WRTC at this time. The WRTC
committee accepts logs directly as a TR file (LOG.DAT).
A readme file with a detailed change history is included in the package or you
can read it at http://www.qth.com/tr/revhistory.html. Many enhancements have
been made in just the past few months, so the readme file is the best source
of documentation for them. Please e-mail me if you have questions.
You may download a copy at http://www.qth.com/tr.
Good luck to all the WRTC 2002 competitors!!
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron rossi(kk1l@arrl.net) <><
Support Programmer for TRLog
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From mjwetzel at comcast.net Tue Jul 2 17:25:17 2002
From: mjwetzel@comcast.net (Mike Wetzel)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 80 Meter Beam at W9RE
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.2.2.20020630101456.00b67200@mail.attbi.com>
Message-ID: <NCBBIPEKMKEIENBFHFHJMEPIFDAA.mjwetzel@comcast.net>
For all those asking about my 80 meter yagi presentation at Dayton, I have
finally finished the web page on it.
It is http://mywebpages.comcast.net/w9re/index.html
The 'hit counter' doesn't work yet and the numbers iding the pictures are
not aligned perfectly depending on your monitor. Other than that I think it
works.
Thanks for all the patience.
Mike W9RE
>From k8khz at comcast.net Tue Jul 2 19:23:41 2002
From: k8khz@comcast.net (Sean D. Fleming)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Club Callsigns
Message-ID: <000801c22217$1f01d080$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
Designs by ?2001 Stationery Heaven
I got this idea from another ham though wanted to check it out. If you and
other people such as a family member apply for a club call for a station
then you can contest with it. what license class does the station have or is
it of the control op at that time. and how would you use to file a score
with a contesting club at that time.
let me know your thoughts.
Sean , K8KHZ
http://www.geocities.com/k8khz
>From N6HC at aol.com Tue Jul 2 20:10:11 2002
From: N6HC@aol.com (N6HC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Sayre, PA
Message-ID: <6e.1eeac16b.2a538cd3@aol.com>
I'll be working in the area from July 8 to August 9, 2002. Any illustrious
participants on this reflector that reside in the area and wish to get
together with another reflector participant with similar amateur radio
interests?
73 Arnie N6HC
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>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Wed Jul 3 08:54:08 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (Timo)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Italy
Message-ID: <000501c2224d$c5be3b80$bec5f83e@tklimoff>
I going to make "a backpack tour" in Italy 17 July - 26 July 2002. I am
visiting at least in Roma, Firenze, Bologna and Milano.
If any Italian contester wants to meet over a beer or cappuchino, please email.
73 Timo OH1NOA / OH0NOA
-----------------------------------------------------------
Timo Klimoff timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi oh1noa@qsl.net
http://www.oh1noa.tk
>From contesting at eircom.net Wed Jul 3 08:33:07 2002
From: contesting@eircom.net (Tim Makins, EI8IC)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Scandinavian Activity Contest 1998
References: <004701c2086b$354c2220$3aa9a5c2@host>
<017401c208a6$dd331120$a2c5f83e@tklimoff> <013e01c20939$fa974a40$31aaa5c2@host>
<00bd01c2093d$acde4ca0$8ec5f83e@tklimoff>
Message-ID: <005d01c2225b$84a88480$8ea9a5c2@host>
I have just received a photocopy of 1998 SAC results from the Log Control
Co-ordinator. If anyone needs to know their scores, I will be happy to pass
the information on, though as this is on paper and will need to be hand
typed to your reply, please don't ask for 'all European Results' or 'all
Swedish Results' etc. !
73s Tim EI8Ic
www.qsl.net/ei8ic/
HF and Budget Contesting
>From W3DMB at aol.com Wed Jul 3 10:04:13 2002
From: W3DMB@aol.com (W3DMB@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Club Callsigns
Message-ID: <16c.ff89f66.2a54504d@aol.com>
RE:Club callsigns....
Sean,
The class of license of the License Trustee of the club callsign determines
what class the club license can be used as without very awkward composite
callsigns such as W3UDX/NO3Q if the stations trustee is a General and the
operator is an extra and wants to operate in the EXTRA portions of a band..
If the Station License TRUSTEE is an Extra then the call W3UDX (for example)
would be used "clean" by all operators although the subband restrictions on
individual operators still do apply. Note: During Field Day this
restriction seems to be ignored by almost all clubs...
This is usually so difficult that most clubs try to have as trustee an Extra
class licensee, that way the "correct" FCC call is easier to use. According
to FCC rules, an operator is restricted to frequencies authorized by his/her
class of license unless there is a control operator of the higher class
present.
If a club has a 1x2 call (that was usually reserved for extra class
operators) and the club has a General class operator file to be the trustee,
AND the club is made up now of Techs and Generals with no Extra class
operators, then the club would still hold the 1x2 call (which would look like
an Extra class) but could not legally operate in EXTRA class subbands.
With the new exams that we now have it should not be difficult to find an
individual who has an Extra class license to be the trustee to avoid the
mess.
Jerry, W3DMB
Trustee - W3UDX (Butler ARA club license)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In a message dated 02-Jul-02 21:50:59 Eastern Daylight Time,
k8khz@comcast.net writes:
> I got this idea from another ham though wanted to check it out. If you and
> other people such as a family member apply for a club call for a station
> then you can contest with it. what license class does the station have or
> is
> it of the control op at that time. and how would you use to file a score
> with a contesting club at that time.
> let me know your thoughts.
>
> Sean , K8KHZ
> http://www.geocities.com/k8khz
>
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>From mfiorucci at bigfoot.com Wed Jul 3 18:25:06 2002
From: mfiorucci@bigfoot.com (mfiorucci)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Log for Marconi Memorial Contest HF
Message-ID: <001101c222a6$cc930d60$1601640a@olidata>
Attention!!
The mailbox ik6ptj@qsl.net not work!!
Please, used temporarily ik6ptj@yahoo.it for send (or resend!) the log.
Thank you
ik6ptj
Contest Manager of Marconi Memorial Contest HF
www.qsl.net/ik6ptj/marconi.htm
>From gm3woj at talk21.com Wed Jul 3 17:22:09 2002
From: gm3woj@talk21.com (Chris Tran GM3WOJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Callsigns for WRTC 2002 ?
Message-ID: <000901c222a5$a317f640$09bafea9@chris.tranbtinternet.com>
Hello all
Can anyone tell me when a list of the exact callsigns in the
series OJ1 - OJ8 which are to be used by the WRTC 2002
teams will be available ? (I want to make up some check
sheets for our GB5HQ station) In WRTC 2000, I think the
list of S5xxx calls was available several days before the event.
73
Chris GM3WOJ
www.gm7v.com
>From tree at kkn.net Wed Jul 3 10:35:26 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC-2002
Message-ID: <200207031635.g63GZQU08285@loja.kkn.net>
Fellow contesters-
As you all know, WRTC-2002 will be taking place during the IARU contest
coming up in about 10 days. A few of us get to go to Helsinki to enjoy
the party, but the rest of us get to stay home. However, that doesn't
mean we can't all be part of the event.
Your radio can help connect you to the fun. This is a great chance
to turn on your radio - tune around and find guys to work. Even if you can
only spend an hour or two doing it - this will be enough time to show up in
the majority of the WRTC competitor's logs.
To help recognize those who do this - the Boring Amateur Radio Club will
put together a web page listing all of those stations who worked at least
10 of the WRTC stations (with the special OJ previx). Simply submit your
list of QSOs to barc@jzap.com to be listed.
There are also other awards programs being sponsored by the WRTC committee.
You can find out more about them at http://www.wrtc2002.org/general.htm.
Let's all try to get on for a little and be a part of this great event.
I will have a guest op at my station (the ham formerly known as XE1/AA6RX),
but will setup a station out in the barn to work some of the guys with my
own callsign.
For most of the US, the best time to work these guys will be shortly after
sunset on 20 meters (or perhaps 15 if the sun gets some spots). Here in
the pacific northwest, the Europeans are VERY loud at this time and the
WRTC guys should be easy to find and work - even with a modest setup.
You might also want to hand out some QSOs to the "other" people in the
contest as well. The exchange is an RST and your ITU zone. Both modes
are used during the contest. You can find the full rules on the arrl.org
web page.
It might be almost as much fun as the Florida QSO Party.
73 Tree N6TR
tree@kkn.net
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Wed Jul 3 17:48:58 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Club Callsigns
References: <16c.ff89f66.2a54504d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3D232AFA.B56EE7F@directvinternet.com>
To add to the timely remarks from others, one other note is in order.
IF the callsign being used is NOT a club call, the holder of that call
MUST be present at all times.
Field day isn't the only place this rule has been ignored.
73
Ed
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Jul 3 11:13:47 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 03Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207031713.g63HDl626556@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 03Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Wed Jul 3 11:36:27 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Club Callsigns
In-Reply-To: <3D232AFA.B56EE7F@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <20020703173627.44167.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi Ed and others..
One correction... As long as the holder of the
Call being used has designated an authorized
CONTROL OPERATOR to oversee the operations, the
holder of the callsign need not be present at the
op. The control operator(s) MUST be present to
maintain control over the operation.
Beyond that.. the person who holds the callsign
may go away. Of course.. should 'situations
arise' the holder of the callsign AND the control
op will be responsible for dealing with the
fallout.
Of course, the privledges authorized the station
are only those in concert with the holder of the
call OR the control operator (usually they hold
the same class of license).
You are correct, absolutely, in your thinking
that the rule is violated all the time when a
Club will allow a Call to be used at and event
and the trustee/holder of the call 'goes away'
and does not have a designated control operator
present to act in their stead.
73
Chuck K3FT
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>From Bill at ng3k.com Wed Jul 3 16:21:00 2002
From: Bill@ng3k.com (Bill@ng3k.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Announced Operations for Sep-Oct 2002 NCJ
Message-ID: <3D23165C.27391.25FE003@localhost>
Fellow Contesters,
The deadline for Contest-related DXpedition announcements
for the Sep/Oct 2002 issue of the National Contest Journal
issue is July 20. This issue should arrive in your mailboxes
during the first or second week in September.
Now is the time to relate your Dxpedition plans for the Fall
CQWW DX contests, as well as the ARRL 10m and 160m
contests. Please get them to me prior to the July 20
deadline so that they can appear in the Sep/Oct issue.
You can complete a Web-based form at:
http://www.ng3k.com/Contest/consub.html
or you can E-mail to:
Bill@ng3k.com
including:
o Callsign to be used
o DXCC entity
o CQ Zone (for the CQWW contests)
o Entry class anticipated
o QSL route
o Your callsign and public E-mail address
o Operators + other information of likely interest
You can review what has been received to-date at:
http://www.ng3k.com/Contest/conasc.html
Thanks in advance and 73,
Bill/NG3K
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Wed Jul 3 19:00:11 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC-2002
Message-ID: <7c.2a55a99e.2a54cdeb@aol.com>
Tree,
Although it will be a serious come-down from the Florida QSO Party, Fred,
NA2U, and I will be operating from J75KG in the IARU contest. We hope that
all of the boys will take break from working the WRTC-OJ's and listen for us
to the south. We are good for a Zone 11 mult. We will be 80 thru 10 meters,
Inshallah.
73, George, J75KG (ex. K4FQP as in Florida Qso Party!)
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Jul 4 05:05:51 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
Message-ID: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
QST QST QST
Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
Quack
Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
> Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
>
> Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
>
> Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
14.
> 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
14.265
> 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> 78720-0812.
>
>
>
>
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>From Bill at ng3k.com Thu Jul 4 07:28:49 2002
From: Bill@ng3k.com (Bill@ng3k.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
Message-ID: <3D23EB21.17556.33F0AD@localhost>
I wasn't going to do this again this year, but since
folks are sending me information I'm relenting. This
is the URL for my list of HQ Stations planning to be
active in the IARU HF World Championship 2002:
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iaru2002.html
If you have information relating to a HQ (or IARU
Administrative Council or IARU regional Executive)
station that's planning to be active and would like
to have it listed here, please send it to:
Bill@ng3k.com
Hope this information proves useful to some of you.
73,
Bill/NG3K
>From N5RP at pdq.net Thu Jul 4 09:15:27 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704081107.00b92860@pop.pdq.net>
At 04:05 7/4/2002 +0000, Rex Maner wrote:
>QST QST QST
>Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
>
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z
> Jul 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465, 21.365,
> 14.265, 7.265.
> > QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX 78720-0812.
==========================>
I think we should all get in there and work this special event setup.
Who knows what the certificate might look like.
Volleyball, anyone ?
Bob Perring
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Thu Jul 4 09:22:36 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
In-Reply-To: <3D23EB21.17556.33F0AD@localhost>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704081706.00ba1a68@pop.pdq.net>
At 06:28 7/4/2002 -0400, Bill@ng3k.com wrote:
>I wasn't going to do this again this year, but since
>folks are sending me information I'm relenting. This
>is the URL for my list of HQ Stations planning to be
>active in the IARU HF World Championship 2002:
>
> http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iaru2002.html
==========================>
I see callsign NU1AW listed,
and thanks to Rex,
we now know NU5DE will be in there, as well.
Does NU5DE count as a special multiplier ?
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Thu Jul 4 09:52:10 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJGEKLEFAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
There seems to be a lot of activity in those groups....
Check the sign I found on a highway outside Austin:
http://www.hal-pc.org/~kg5u/index.html
73,
dale, kg5u
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Rex Maner
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 23:06
> To: CQ-CONTEST
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
>
> QST QST QST
> Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
> Quack
>
> Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
> > Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
> >
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> >
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
> 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
> 14.265
> > 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> > 78720-0812.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Thu Jul 4 10:00:02 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704085405.00b3a198@pop.pdq.net>
Here is a clarification on the IARU headquarter stations status for IARU 2002.
===========================
>NU1AW is the IARU HQ station.
>
>This is what the rules say:
>
> Multipliers: The total number of ITU zones plus IARU
> member society HQ stations worked on each band (not
> mode.) IARU officials represent a maximum of four
> multipliers per band (AC, R1, R2 and R3).
>
>Last year W6ROD was the R2 station. So unless NU5DE
>is an "IARU officials" station, it doesn't count as a
>multiplier.
=========================
So,
Last year, you could work a ROD, and it counted as an R2 bonus mult.
NU5DE will not count as an IARU 2002 bonus mult, whether the op has a rod,
or not.
.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From W4EF at dellroy.com Thu Jul 4 08:31:42 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Michael Tope)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
References: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <102601c22367$860a49a0$6501a8c0@1800XP>
Sounds like we need a new category for these folks, Quack?
How about SOBN - single operator buck naked?
Of course in this category the problems associated with
RF in the shack take on a whole new importance :)
Elmer Fudd, W4EF..................................
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
To: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:05 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
>
> QST QST QST
> Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
> Quack
>
> Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
> > Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
> >
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> >
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
> 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
> 14.265
> > 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> > 78720-0812.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>From hwardsil at centurytel.net Thu Jul 4 16:14:23 2002
From: hwardsil@centurytel.net (Ward Silver)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
References: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <003301c2236d$7ba036e0$27d7fea9@mirage>
Good thing it's not an ATV or SSTV contest...
73, Ward N0AX
> QST QST QST
> Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
> Quack
>
> Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
> > Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
> >
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> >
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
> 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
> 14.265
> > 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> > 78720-0812.
>From w2up at mindspring.com Thu Jul 4 16:11:07 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
Message-ID: <3D24658B.11150.FF1B40@localhost>
Recently installed a new computer and having an odd problem.
When transmitting with the amp on, I get hum in my computer speakers
(Harman Kardon with a subwoofer and 2 tweeters), but only when my
stubs are switched in, and only on 15m. It's either coming from the
speakers' AC line or the connection between speakers, as the hum is
still there when not connected to the computer. I've tried ferrites on the
audio and AC lines, but that didn't help. Ideas?
Tnx,
Barry--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Thu Jul 4 17:45:33 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Press release #21: OJ call signs released
Message-ID: <01c22361$11bd1740$97c5f83e@default>
The call signs ( from OJ1-OJ8 prefix block) in WRTC2002 Contest used by 52
teams will be:
OJ1C OJ1F OJ1M OJ1N OJ1S OJ1W OJ1X
OJ2F OJ2H OJ2J OJ2Q OJ2V OJ2Y OJ2Z
OJ3A OJ3D OJ3N OJ3R OJ3T OJ3X
OJ4A OJ4M OJ4N OJ4S OJ4W
OJ5A OJ5E OJ5M OJ5T OJ5U OJ5W OJ5Z
OJ6C OJ6E OJ6K OJ6N OJ6W OJ6X OJ6Y
OJ7A OJ7C OJ7M OJ7N OJ7S OJ7W OJ7X
OJ8A OJ8E OJ8K OJ8L OJ8N OJ8W
You can download an Excel -checklist for the contest from:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/ojcalls.xls
Remember also our WRTC2002 Worked All New OJ prefixes awards and special
plaques + our special "Early Bird" prizes ( All e-mail logs submitted within 6
hours after the contest ends will participate in a lottery with special
WRTC2002 prizes), read full details: http://www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm .
WRTC2002 Organizing Committee
>From n5nw at n5nw.org Thu Jul 4 14:07:39 2002
From: n5nw@n5nw.org (Marty N5NW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A plane trip conversation from Dayton 2002
Message-ID: <001401c2237d$531b7df0$3339a8c0@dayton.hospiceofdayton.org>
Although I'm now local to Dayton, I had a business trip to take and found
myself at the Dayton airport for a 1:35pm flight Sunday afternoon after the
Dayton Hamvention, bound for Detroit. Probably 20 or 25 hams on the flight
(regional jet, capacity around 65 I'd guess). As we were waiting, the only
seat vacant was next to me. Who walks down the aisle?
Martti Lane, OH2BH.
Man, what an absolute stroke of luck. 45 uninterrupted minutes of
conversation with perhaps one of the greatest ambassadors of ham radio in
the world. I almost felt like I'd been granted an audience with the Pope or
something ... But here was a very down-to-earth guy genuinely interested in
a conversation with me. Very sincere, very genuine, and very easy to speak
with.
Martti spoke at the contest forum, and is currently organizing WRTC 2002 in
Finland. But on the plane, he spoke to me about the first WRTC in Seattle,
and the problems that were encountered that the Organizing committee was
trying to avoid 10 years later.
That led to a discussion of what good ham radio can do as ambassadors, and
how little the typical DXpedition (both general DX and contest) adds to the
local environment. He (like I) visited Albania. I made about 45 contacts.
He made several thousand contacts, and created 20 or so licensed amateurs,
and instituted the amateur radio system in the government of Albania. Even
the license document format (double columns, in Albanian and English) was
his creation.
He didn't say this to brag ... far from it. Rather, making a positive
impact on the locations he visits has become a priority. He was so taken
aback by the hospitality of the Albanian people, and how the experience
impacted him (and his son, who accompanied him). But since then, his
outlook on DXpeditions has changed. As he told me, DXers will never be the
Red Cross, nor should we be. But we (as a whole) need to examine ways we
can leave the areas we visit better than we found them. And not just with
our equipment. We have to also share our knowledge. And, hard as this is
to realize, we may have a little to learn ourselves. Martti freely admits
he got more from his experience in Albania than he left.
He spoke of his host family back in 1992, and the matriarch going about each
morning to gather the day's food from various vendors in the neighborhood in
which they lived. This same ritual occurred during my visit two years ago.
One shop for bread, another for produce, another for meat. Nothing beyond
that day, as preservation of foods is still quite difficult, and appliances
hard to come by.
But one particular morning, the matriarch returned with something special.
After asking around, she had located an egg. One egg. And as the family
gathered, they insisted that Martti's son enjoy the egg that obviously they
hadn't had in some time. Martti's son told him that was the most difficult
egg he had ever eaten. But the family did receive their reward ... they
enjoyed him, enjoying the egg!
He spoke of the Solomon Islands trip, and how they convinced the locals to
manufacture soaps and other materials from the native coconut trees. For a
$25 donation to the local cause, you got a commemorative QSL, rather than
the standard QSL. You got the card perhaps a few days quicker. But the
locals got the money. He expected to raise perhaps $4,000 to $5,000 and
ended up with five times that, through the generosity of the DX community.
I really didn't intend that this sound "preachy". But I hope we all begin
asking questions of the DXpeditions about how they have a positive impact on
the places they visit. I hope we demand our contesters who were selected
for WRTC also remember that they are ambassadors for amateur radio and the
USA, whether or not they want to be. The WRTC is an excellent opportunity.
Recall the US Hockey Team at the Nagano Olympics? They trashed the place
after a loss. They did not remember that they were not only competetors,
but also Ambassadors.
Other countries come to mind -- North Korea offers some real opportunities,
just as Albania did in 1970 when Martti first visited. It took 22 years,
but Amateur Radio is now established. And the Albanian regime was even
tougher than the current North Korean regime! Many inroads can still be
made in Southeast Asia, China, and the African continent. Ham Radio --
Ambassadors of International Goodwill.
Martti, thanks for sharing that plane ride with me. It has changed my
outlook on Amateur Radio, and how we might impact our world for positive
change.
de N5NW/8 (Marty)
Bellbrook, Ohio
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Thu Jul 4 14:17:30 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704081706.00ba1a68@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDMEHEELAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Bob, N5RP
> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 09:23
> To: Bill@ng3k.com; CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
>
>
> At 06:28 7/4/2002 -0400, Bill@ng3k.com wrote:
> >I wasn't going to do this again this year, but since
> >folks are sending me information I'm relenting. This
> >is the URL for my list of HQ Stations planning to be
> >active in the IARU HF World Championship 2002:
> >
> > http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iaru2002.html
> ==========================>
> I see callsign NU1AW listed,
>
> and thanks to Rex,
> we now know NU5DE will be in there, as well.
>
> Does NU5DE count as a special multiplier ?
> Bob Perring
The NU5DE QSL card is singularly unsatisfying, but still is an
item of interest in this shack!
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
>From nt5c at texas.net Thu Jul 4 13:34:33 2002
From: nt5c@texas.net (John Warren)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Life is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJGEKLEFAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
References: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJGEKLEFAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Message-ID: <p04330100b94a44b64cea@EIM-Mac-1.0.7>
>There seems to be a lot of activity in those groups....
>
>Check the sign I found on a highway outside Austin:
>
>http://www.hal-pc.org/~kg5u/index.html
>
>73,
>dale, kg5u
...or our favorite bumper sticker: KEEP AUSTIN WEIRD
73, John, NT5C.
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Thu Jul 4 14:40:55 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NU5DE and Operating Style
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704081706.00ba1a68@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDGEHFELAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
All the NU5DE conversation brings to mind the cartoon I
found recently.
http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/images/CasualFriday.jpg
Given that *I* am a telecommuter, and the temperature in my
workspace has been over 90 degF for many hours each day
over the past week, this image resonates!
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Jul 4 12:30:43 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Supporting The WRTC- AKA working the OJ's
References: <200207041602.g64G2uKF003669@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <034d01c2236f$c2ef4d40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
I agree, we all should make an effort to participate in the Radiosport next
weekend...and a little extrat effort be made to target band times favourable
for northern European QSOs...Radiosport is a fun contest - short enough to
do the full stint even for us old guys! It is a simple exchange (justy
remember it is your ITU NOT your CQ zone you are sneding...see ARRL web page
for the list of ITU zones)
Work as many calls with OJ in them as possible on as many different bands as
possible, that is ALWAYS a good philosophy...except for SS :-)
I slightly disagree with N6TR about whether or not the Radiosport will be as
much fun as the Florida QSO Party - they do share a lot in common...
You will be working some of the finest operators in the world - and - you
will be working members of the Florida Contest Group, too!
9 days 'til WRTC and Radiosport 2,002!
Good luck also to the W1AW/5 crew...go team USA!
73,
K4 OJ
(aka operator K4FCG in the one and only Florida QSO Party)
>From nt5c at texas.net Thu Jul 4 14:18:14 2002
From: nt5c@texas.net (John Warren)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Life is stranger than fiction
Message-ID: <p04330101b94a4fd0e8a1@EIM-Mac-1.0.7>
>There seems to be a lot of activity in those groups....
>
>Check the sign I found on a highway outside Austin:
>
>http://www.hal-pc.org/~kg5u/index.html
>
>73,
>dale, kg5u
...or our favorite bumper sticker: KEEP AUSTIN WEIRD
73, John, NT5C.
>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Thu Jul 4 20:04:58 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] GW7X QSLs
Message-ID: <VA.00000190.0085307b@gw3njw>
Hi
If you have sent a direct QSL to Contest Cambria, probably to
the manager GW3XEJ, you might be fretting that you have not yet
received a reply .
Frankly, we underestimated the attraction of the GW7X call (
about 100:1 cf my own call), and our usual printing system has
been quite overwhelmed. We currently await a bulk printing from
UT land, and as soon as they are available, the backlog will be
cleared.
Please accept our apologies for this discourtesy. We hope to see
you all in the forthcoming contests. fyi, member Ed/G3SQX ( aka
N0ED) will activate the call as GM7X in the IOTA contest at the
end of the month, so don't be confused, as this will not show in
the SCP database as yet.
Thank you for your indulgence and the bandwidth.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
Contest Cambria
>From 107770.3462 at compuserve.com Thu Jul 4 17:28:28 2002
From: 107770.3462@compuserve.com (James P. Cassidy)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NU5DE
Message-ID: <200207041628_MC3-1-514-36F2@compuserve.com>
Possibly another operator category if its an outdoor FD type operation, SO
Sunburned Operator? 73 Jim KI7Y
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Fri Jul 5 00:46:57 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Supporting The WRTC- AKA working the everybody i.e.
participating IARU2002
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12D9D@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Gents,
There are also others that will have fun.
OJ*.* is just one bunch of happy teams.
Pls visit
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iaru2002.html
to see some of the Headquarters Radio Leagues
all over the World have on the air.
We will have as much fun.
Headquarters stations will have also the Top Band,
which OJ*.* stations are lacking.
CU in IARU 2002 Radiosport July 13-14th, 12-12Z !
73,
Jukka, OH6LI
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Jim White [mailto:k4oj@tampabay.rr.com]
> Sent: 04 July, 2002 18:31
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Supporting The WRTC- AKA working the OJ's
>
>
> I agree, we all should make an effort to participate in the
> Radiosport next
> weekend...and a little extrat effort be made to target band
> times favourable
> for northern European QSOs...Radiosport is a fun contest -
> short enough to
> do the full stint even for us old guys! It is a simple
> exchange (justy
> remember it is your ITU NOT your CQ zone you are
> sneding...see ARRL web page
> for the list of ITU zones)
>
> Work as many calls with OJ in them as possible on as many
> different bands as
> possible, that is ALWAYS a good philosophy...except for SS :-)
>
> I slightly disagree with N6TR about whether or not the
> Radiosport will be as
> much fun as the Florida QSO Party - they do share a lot in common...
>
> You will be working some of the finest operators in the world
> - and - you
> will be working members of the Florida Contest Group, too!
>
> 9 days 'til WRTC and Radiosport 2,002!
>
> Good luck also to the W1AW/5 crew...go team USA!
>
>
> 73,
>
>
> K4 OJ
> (aka operator K4FCG in the one and only Florida QSO Party)
>
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>From K5NZ at aol.com Thu Jul 4 18:48:11 2002
From: K5NZ@aol.com (K5NZ@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC
Message-ID: <18e.a2a72e3.2a561c9b@aol.com>
To all you WRTC teams.. Have a great experience and good luck!
USA USA USA!
nz
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>From k8cx at hamgallery.com Thu Jul 4 21:43:13 2002
From: k8cx@hamgallery.com (Thomas Roscoe)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dayton 2002 Gallery is up!
Message-ID: <3D24EBA1.197B1DDD@hamgallery.com>
The Dayton 2002 Gallery is now up at http://hamgallery.com/dayton2002/.
The Gallery has 154 photos this year. I took 97 photos and the rest came
from W4MYA, XE1L, VP5JM, N1DG, K8AV, and K8KHZ. There are still some
unidentified people in these photos. If you know who these unknown hams
are, please let me know.
There is photo coverage of the Contesters Banquet, Top Band Dinner, DX
Dinner, and Crowne Plaza Hospitality Suites.
I am interested in putting up a WRTC 2002 Gallery. Unfortunately, I
won't be able to attend. If you go, take some pics and send them to me
for the Gallery. You can email them to k8cx@hamgallery.com or burn them
on a disk and mail it to:
Tom Roscoe K8CX
857 N. Albright McKay Rd.
Brookfield, Ohio 44403
Tnx,
Tom...K8CX...
>From k7qq at netzero.net Fri Jul 5 05:04:55 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
Message-ID: <00d801c223d9$80224480$da262a42@k7qq>
Perfect Fix
Turn the speakers OFF
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 15:11
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
> Recently installed a new computer and having an odd problem.
> When transmitting with the amp on, I get hum in my computer speakers
> (Harman Kardon with a subwoofer and 2 tweeters), but only when my
> stubs are switched in, and only on 15m. It's either coming from the
> speakers' AC line or the connection between speakers, as the hum is
> still there when not connected to the computer. I've tried ferrites on the
> audio and AC lines, but that didn't help. Ideas?
> Tnx,
> Barry--
> Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>
>
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>From aa4lr at arrl.net Fri Jul 5 09:46:55 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Computer time syncronization without using the
internet???
Message-ID: <20020705124825.LBPD25736.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 6/26/02 6:54 PM, VR2BrettGraham at vr2bg@harts.org.hk wrote:
>VA7NT needs to accurately set a computer's clock without resorting to
>the Internet.
Got GPS? Before you can know where you are, your GPS receiver has to
figure out what time it is, and does so very accurately.
GPS is how the NCCC beacon stations stay synchronised.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Fri Jul 5 10:40:36 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>; from Rex Maner on Thu, Jul
04, 2002 at 04:05:51AM -0000
References: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <20020705094036.C1763@cs.utexas.edu>
The astute observer will notice that this special event station's
operation overlaps with the W1AW/5 ARRL HQ operation in the Austin, TX
area in the IARU HF World Championship.
Keep Austin Weird.
On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 04:05:51AM -0000, Rex Maner wrote:
>
> QST QST QST
> Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
> Quack
>
> Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
> > Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
> >
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> >
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
> 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
> 14.265
> > 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> > 78720-0812.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
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>From aa4lr at arrl.net Fri Jul 5 14:20:29 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Restoring High Band/Low Band categories in ARRL DX Test
Message-ID: <20020705172030.EKZP1238.imf24bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 6/18/02 9:25 AM, Dave Hachadorian at K6LL@adelphia.net wrote:
>
>2. There are a lot of stations around the world
>who have a small tower and tribander
>in the back yard, and an assortment of low,
>seriously compromised antennas for 40,
>80, and 160. There is not much incentive for these
>stations to get on the air in the
>all band category, since they know that they
>cannot turn in a competitive score. On the
>other hand, a tribander can do a quite creditable
>job on the high bands, which would
>encourage activity.
I know I'm a bit late to the party on this issue, but I'd like to
disagree with Dave here. I believe there's an errant assumption at work
here.
If the sole purpose of operating contests was to put in a winning score,
then the sport would soon dwindle down to just a dozen or so "serious"
contesters.
The guys (like me) with a small tower and tribander and compromised
antennas for the other bands aren't necessarily competing against
everyone else in the same category. Sometimes, we're just out to turn in
a better score than last year, or to beat the guy down the street, or in
the next county.
The small tower / tribander guys are already going to be concentrating on
the higher bands -- that's where their stations are effective. I don't
see where a high/low band split would encourage activity here. If
anything, it might lower single band scores on the lower bands since
folks won't bother even trying them out.
I don't think you encourage activity by limiting bands -- why not a TS
category, like that in WPX? (Although this has it's own inequities, as a
guy with a C51XR at 100 feet likely outclasses the guy with a HF4B at 20
feet)
>To me, the payoff in any contest is to enjoy the
>contest experience itself, and, afterward, to
>to see how I ranked, with the data arranged the
>way I like to see it presented.
I really like seeing the internet results. I found out I was #78 out of a
field of 800-odd in low-power SS Phone. Maybe this year, I can break into
the top 50 again.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From w9wi at w9wi.com Fri Jul 5 13:43:02 2002
From: w9wi@w9wi.com (Doug Smith W9WI)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Hum and stubs
In-Reply-To: <200207051603.g65G3f5r013440@contesting.com>; from
cq-contest-request@contesting.com on Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 12:03:41PM -0400
References: <200207051603.g65G3f5r013440@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <20020705124302.A7903@w9wi.com>
> From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
>
> Perfect Fix
> Turn the speakers OFF
That might not help!
Seriously, in my experience computer speakers are just about the most
RF-sensitive pieces of gear out there. In many of our offices at work we
have to put Radio Shack choke cores on the cables (both power and audio) or
we get WSM-FM louder than we get the computer audio.
The choke cores should work just fine for HF too. Though Rex is probably
right that the easiest fix is to just turn them off...
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com
>From k2av at contesting.com Fri Jul 5 15:13:14 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
References: <00d801c223d9$80224480$da262a42@k7qq>
Message-ID: <001701c2244f$a12ef260$0500a8c0@swift>
Try RF in the shack, plus your new stuff is poorly rf-proofed from the
factory (big surprise), and the stubs are just changing the lengths of
things, so the hot spots move around.
Check the archives on TowerTalk for a huge wealth of commentary on
grounding, etc.
73, Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
To: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 12:04 AM
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
> Perfect Fix
> Turn the speakers OFF
> Quack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 15:11
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
>
>
> > Recently installed a new computer and having an odd problem.
> > When transmitting with the amp on, I get hum in my computer
speakers
> > (Harman Kardon with a subwoofer and 2 tweeters), but only when my
> > stubs are switched in, and only on 15m. It's either coming from
the
> > speakers' AC line or the connection between speakers, as the hum
is
> > still there when not connected to the computer. I've tried
ferrites on the
> > audio and AC lines, but that didn't help. Ideas?
> > Tnx,
> > Barry--
> > Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> > Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
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>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Fri Jul 5 15:35:02 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 IARU 2002 Bulletin #3
In-Reply-To: <20020619162639.D9927@cs.utexas.edu>; from Kenneth E. Harker on
Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 04:26:39PM -0500
References: <20020619162639.D9927@cs.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <20020705143501.H2236@cs.utexas.edu>
BULLETIN #3
5 July 2002
Propagation Predictions for W1AW/5
Central Texas area contesters are gearing up for the 2002 IARU HF World
Championship the weekend of 13-14 July. Six area contest stations will
be signing W1AW/5, representing the United States of America as the ARRL
"Headquarters Station."
To help prepare for the contest, W1AW/5 team member Tom Whiteside N5TW
has prepared a set of propagation predictions for the weekend. Tom used
IC Graph, a Visual Basic application he wrote for use inside Microsoft
Excel. IC Graph uses the IONCAP HF propagation software engine to produce
data that it then charts in Microsoft Excel. For more information on Tom's
software, which he has made available to the Amateur Radio community, visit
the IC Graph distribution page on the Central Texas DX & Contest Club web
site at: http://www.ctdxcc.org/icgraph/.
The propagation predictions are available online and are based on an assumed
solar flux of 135: http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr/misc/w1aw/iaru_propagation.html
The predictions include specific short path predictions between the central
Texas W1AW/5 stations and England, Germany, Russia, Japan, Australia, China,
Siberia, Jordan, the Caribbean, north Africa, south Africa, Argentina, and
India. Long path predictions were also generated for Russia and India. The
predictions can be viewed by destination or by band. Please send comments
and questions about the IC Graph predictions to Tom Whiteside N5TW at
n5tw@igg-tx.net.
The W1AW/5 stations are some of the most exceptional contest stations in
the central United States. The team considers these predictions to be merely
rough guides and will certainly be looking to make every QSO with every
station possible worldwide, whether the predictions suggest it is likely
or not. W1AW/5 will be on all the band-modes for the entire twenty four hours.
ARRL Headquarters will handle all QSL requests. QSL via W1AW: 225 Main
Street, Newington, CT 06111, USA. Please do not send QSL cards to the
W1AW/5 station owners or operators.
Please direct comments or questions about W1AW/5 in the 2002 IARU HF World
Championship to Richard King K5NA at k5na@texas.net. For more information
about the Central Texas DX & Contest Club visit http://www.ctdxcc.org/.
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University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
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>From dave at egh.com Fri Jul 5 20:48:14 2002
From: dave@egh.com (David Clemons)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] re: W1AW/5 IARU 2002 Bulletin #3
Message-ID: <00A107E5.5D81F60C.11@egh.com>
Hi,
I didn't notice propagation predictions for W5 <-> W1 paths
(New England instead of [Old] England). Do you guys have any idea
whether we'll be able to work Texas from here during the contest?
:-)
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Sat Jul 6 02:16:01 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Computer time syncronization without using
the internet???
In-Reply-To: <20020705124825.LBPD25736.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0
.20]>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020706011049.01fdc950@pop.pacific.net.hk>
AA4LR suggested:
> >VA7NT needs to accurately set a computer's clock without resorting to
> >the Internet.
>
>Got GPS? Before you can know where you are, your GPS receiver has to
>figure out what time it is, and does so very accurately.
>
>GPS is how the NCCC beacon stations stay synchronised.
When VR2B operated from my QTH, it was a little annoying that I couldn't
see the time the GPS receiver was providing to the beacon controller.
I didn't mention before that the wristwatch approach does start with
synchronization with a Rubidium-referenced master clock at the earth station
where I work, which in turns talks to something back in NA that's pretty
darn close to UT1.
Place of employment soon to vanish, so perhaps I should host VR2B again -
I might have enough spare time on my hands then to add time display to the
controller. ;^(
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From k4ww at arrl.net Sat Jul 6 06:53:39 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Hum and stubs
References: <200207051603.g65G3f5r013440@contesting.com>
<20020705124302.A7903@w9wi.com>
Message-ID: <005b01c224d3$01a3b300$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
"Doug Smith W9WI" <w9wi@w9wi.com> wrote: "we get WSM-FM louder than we get
the computer audio."
The last time I listened to WSM, it certainly sounded better than any
computer audio I've heard! :)
C'Ya, Shelby
>From harry at oh6yf.com Sun Jul 7 03:38:09 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The WRTC Station OH6YF & Next Weeks photos
Message-ID: <004d01c22546$2f6fcdf0$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hello all!!!
It would be very nice to see all of you here in Finland during WRTC 2002!
If you are not coming here I will collect my photos to the Internet in the
address:
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
I hope we all could meet and make each other to be even better friends!!!
The next night I will be testing my station on 14185kHz. Maybe we'll meet
there...
Best 73
Harry OH6YF
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Sun Jul 7 11:40:38 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5
In-Reply-To: <MCBBJAHBAIHDJKDNKBBIKEEDCAAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
References: <143.110c2e1f.2a58cece@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020707102918.00ba09d8@pop.pdq.net>
The WRTC thing coming up next weekend .......
The prizes that are mentioned for early log turn in and for working all of
the OJ stations ..........
........... What, exactly, are these prizes ?
I'm drooling to know.
Also,
The W1AW/5 stations.......
Should they identify themselves as W5/W1AW, W1AW/W5, or is, in fact, W1AW/5
acceptable?
What meets the properly defined procedural configuration for station
identification?
If I work them using QRP, can I sign as N5RP/QRP ??
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Sun Jul 7 21:14:56 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (Timo)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5
References: <143.110c2e1f.2a58cece@aol.com>
<5.1.1.2.2.20020707102918.00ba09d8@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <018a01c225d9$d3339820$90c5f83e@tklimoff>
-----
> The WRTC thing coming up next weekend .......
>
> The prizes that are mentioned for early log turn in and for working all of
> the OJ stations ..........
> ........... What, exactly, are these prizes ?
> I'm drooling to know.
Early Bird lottery prizes are still secret :)
But check
http://www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm
how to win an award, special plaque or T-shirt!
73, Timo OH1NOA
WRTC2002 Webmaster, Competitor Correspondence
>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Mon Jul 8 15:25:07 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 - Special OJ Callsigns, A Reminder
Message-ID: <01c22672$1d855600$abc5f83e@default>
Worked All WRTC2002 - "Worked All New OJ prefixes"
Get your log in immediately after the contest and Win Valuable "Early
Bird" prizes - WRTC2002 special incentive for 6-hour log-in!
OJ1- OJ8 prefixes activated for the 1st time!
The WRTC2002 teams will be using special ?2x1? type of callsigns with special
OJ1-OJ8 prefixes (e.g. OJ1M). The OJ1-OJ8 prefixes are activated for the first
time in history to honour WRTC2002 - the Olympics of Amateur Radio contesting
in Finland.
The list of OJ callsigns is as follows:
OJ1C OJ1F OJ1M OJ1N OJ1S OJ1W OJ1X
OJ2F OJ2H OJ2J OJ2Q OJ2V OJ2Y OJ2Z
OJ3A OJ3D OJ3N OJ3R OJ3T OJ3X
OJ4A OJ4M OJ4N OJ4S OJ4W
OJ5A OJ5E OJ5M OJ5T OJ5U OJ5W OJ5Z
OJ6C OJ6E OJ6K OJ6N OJ6W OJ6X OJ6Y
OJ7A OJ7C OJ7M OJ7N OJ7S OJ7W OJ7X
OJ8A OJ8E OJ8K OJ8L OJ8N OJ8W
You can download an Excel -checklist for the contest from:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/ojcalls.xls
Worked All WRTC2002 - Rules for non-WRTC2002 stations
* The same WRTC2002 station can be worked once on CW and once on SSB on
each band.
* Each correct two-way CW or SSB QSO with a WRTC2002 station counts 1
point. A duplicate QSO on same band and mode counts 0 points.
* Score = total sum of QSO points
Logs:
Only e-mail logs (ASCII) are accepted.
The preferred log formats are Cabrillo, CT.ALL and TR.DAT.
The "Early Bird" logs should be submitted by 18.00 UTC on Sunday, July 14,
2002. Regular latest submission date is July 31, 2002.
All logs should be sent via e-mail to: logs@wrtc2002.org
NOTE: The subject field of the e-mail should contain your contest callsign,
e.g. " Subject: WRTC2002 OH2AAA"
Request for stations working the IARU 2002 contest
The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU 2002
contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002 contest
committee to be used as reference data within the official WRTC2002
log-checking procedure. The committee guarantees that these logs will be used
only for cross checking purposes of the WRTC2002 team championship.
NOTE: All e-mail logs submitted within 6 hours after the contest ends will
participate in a lottery with special WRTC2002 prizes.
Awards & Categories
The following "Worked All WRTC2002" awards will be issued based on the above
contest rules:
"Worked All WRTC2002" awards
Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op CW
Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op SSB
Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op Mixed
Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op CW
Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op SSB
Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op Mixed
Worked all WRTC2002 - IARU HQ stations
Awards will be given to the stations with highest number of points in the
following
categories:
1st 2nd 3rd
World
Europe
North America
South America
Asia
Africa
Oceania
HQ Stations
OH - Finland
Special Plaques
Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - CW
Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - SSB
Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - Mixed
Other Prizes
T-shirts (DX) Worked 130 WRTC2002 qsos
T-shirts (EU) Worked 200 WRTC2002 qsos
WRTC2002 ORGANIZING COMMITTEE (via OH1EH)
>From jaime at robles.nu Mon Jul 8 18:50:20 2002
From: jaime@robles.nu (Jaime Robles)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Home made Digital Voice Keyer and a Kenwood
Message-ID: <200207081750.24496.jaime@robles.nu>
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Hello all!
I have just finished a DVK (the K6XX one) but it does not work.
Well, i am not a good builder but i have built some kits and circuits
before... maybe i have made a mistake.
The main problem for me is that i have not used a DVK before so i don't know
about how it works...
Could anybody tell me about the connections to a kenwood rig, please? (TS-50
but i think the others have the same pinout).
On the other hand... if you know another DVK circuit and you can tell me about
the URL i will thank you.
Many thanks.
73.
- --
Un saludo,
Jaime Robles, EA4TV
jaime@robles.nu
Visita http://www.redlibre.net - La Red Libre de todos!
http://smsdx.net - El DXCluster en tu movil!
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>From Timothy.Urban at wc.ey.com Mon Jul 8 12:51:38 2002
From: Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com (Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plea for help re: headphones
Message-ID: <OF03D10011.5236C368-ON85256BF0.00555485@ey.com>
Recently bought a set of the Bose Noise Reducing headphones for contesting
based upon positive comments in the list archives.
While they do zero out a huge amount of transceiver fan noise and computer
whine, I have encountered two serious problems and am desperate for your
suggestions.
Rig = FT 1000 MK 5 + coax feed (incl. a coax rf choke and a w2du type
current balun) + wire ocfd. Runs up to 200 w rf at swr < 1.5 to 1 using
rig's built in tuner.
Problem 1: Bose headphones pick up a cw transmit (rf?) thump - slight on
the Low NR setting of the phones, huge on the High NR setting on the
phones. Added 8 turns of the headphone cable thru a snap together MFJ
torroid - didn't help. Intensity of thump varies band to band.
Reducing the power setting on the rig helps, but is not a viable
solution :).
My goal would be to be able to use the phones on the high NR
setting - it seems to provide valuable audio gain. Operating with the low
setting seems like running the rig with the attenuator on.
Problem 2: SSB: Transmitting voice on ssb with the rig's "monitor"
feature, using the stock Yaesu hand mike, creates ungodly feedback.
Thanks for any ideas - hope I don't have to give these things back
Tim
N5IIT
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>From kc1f at adelphia.net Mon Jul 8 16:14:09 2002
From: kc1f@adelphia.net (Stuart Santelmann)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 1996 T shirt ?
Message-ID: <016e01c22689$bdc87040$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Anyone have some last minute help ? I leave for WRTC 2002 in 2 hours, at
2PM EDST. I can't remember if in WRTC 1996 they had T shirts, in addition
to the cards and letter opener. I want to bring the shirt to Finland, but
can't remember if there was one, or where it is in my house, hi. I do have
the 2000 one.
TIA Stu KC1F WRTC 2002 referee
>From aa4ga at contesting.com Mon Jul 8 13:08:00 2002
From: aa4ga@contesting.com (Lee Hiers)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Radio Question
Message-ID: <3D2980A0.3079.EA6BB1@localhost>
Howdy...
I thought I might actually operate a contest for a change, and was
getting some stuff together this past weekend in anticipation of the
IARU, when I discovered my ol' reliable TS440 has apparently passed
on.
So, I'm thinking about getting another radio. My main rig is an FT-
990. My first thought is to get another 990, as I'm happy with that
rig...but they're OOP and aging. I do like that they're <1000 bucks.
What new mid-level rigs are going to work as well? - primarily
interested in how they perform for RX in a contest environment
obviously!
How about the Icom 746pro? Has anyone used this rig in a contest?
I don't really want to stretch the budget to 2000, but I could...what
other recent rigs should I consider?
Thanks,
Lee
--
Lee Hiers, AA4GA
Cornelia, Georgia
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Mon Jul 8 12:18:22 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 IARU 2002 Bulletin #4
In-Reply-To: <20020705143501.H2236@cs.utexas.edu>; from Kenneth E. Harker on
Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 02:35:02PM -0500
References: <20020619162639.D9927@cs.utexas.edu>
<20020705143501.H2236@cs.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <20020708111822.K876@cs.utexas.edu>
BULLETIN #4
8 July 2002
W1AW/5 Honor Roll Announced
Central Texas area contesters are gearing up for the 2002 IARU HF World
Championship the weekend of 13-14 July. Six area contest stations will
be signing W1AW/5, representing the United States of America as the ARRL
"Headquarters Station."
Organizers have announced that the W1AW/5 operation will create a "W1AW/5
Honor Roll" listing the callsign of every contest operation that works
W1AW/5 on all twelve band-modes, on all six CW bands, or on all six phone
bands. The Honor Roll will be featured prominently on the Central Texas
DX & Contest Club web site: http://www.ctdxcc.org/.
Those looking for the opportunity to work the W1AW portable operation
will have ample opportunity. Many stateside operators may even have better
luck on the low bands during the daylight hours, when the band is quieter
and there's less QRM. All of the W1AW/5 stations have survived the recent
heavy storms well, and were not affected by the flooding near the San
Antonio and New Braunfels areas. All systems are go, and W1AW/5 will be
on the air on all the bands and modes, for the entire twenty-four hours.
ARRL Headquarters will handle all QSL requests. QSL via W1AW: 225 Main
Street, Newington, CT 06111, USA. Please do not send QSL cards to the
W1AW/5 station owners or operators.
Please direct comments or questions about W1AW/5 in the 2002 IARU HF World
Championship to Richard King K5NA at k5na@texas.net. For more information
about the Central Texas DX & Contest Club visit http://www.ctdxcc.org/.
--
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University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From kc1f at adelphia.net Mon Jul 8 17:35:08 2002
From: kc1f@adelphia.net (Stuart Santelmann)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 1996 T shirt ?
References: <016e01c22689$bdc87040$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <018701c22695$132b90c0$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Found it ! Tnx anyway - my XYL had stored it. It's mostly white, so hard
to find...
CU in OH !
Stu KC1F
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart Santelmann" <kc1f@adelphia.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:14 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 1996 T shirt ?
> Anyone have some last minute help ? I leave for WRTC 2002 in 2 hours, at
> 2PM EDST. I can't remember if in WRTC 1996 they had T shirts, in addition
> to the cards and letter opener. I want to bring the shirt to Finland, but
> can't remember if there was one, or where it is in my house, hi. I do
have
> the 2000 one.
>
> TIA Stu KC1F WRTC 2002 referee
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From dick.green at valley.net Mon Jul 8 14:51:15 2002
From: dick.green@valley.net (Dick Green)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
Message-ID: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
And the winner is...
I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m antennas
"side-by-side" and thought the results would be of interest. I've had a 40m
4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five years. Yesterday,
I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC portable guyed
military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two antennas. There was
no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units louder than the
4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB per S-unit, that
translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher would improve
these results.
I say the opportunity for such a comparison is rare because most people
replace one antenna with another rather than keeping the old one and adding
a new one. We often see claims like "this antenna is so much better than my
old antenna", when the comparison is actually made from memory of what the
old antenna was like. That's subjective at best. There's no substitute for
being able to switch back and forth under a wide variety of conditions. It's
also nice when the difference is definitive, as it was in my test.
I've been wondering about the relative merits of the 4-square and beam for
some time. A couple of years ago, someone at a YCCC meeting complained that
his 40m 4-square just couldn't keep up with the 2-el beams (can't remember
who it was.) I disputed the claim, feeling that my full-size 4-square with
60 radials per element was reasonable close in performance to a 2-el yagi.
This assertion was partly based on having done reasonably well on 40m in
contests, partly based on denial (building a 4-square is a lot of work!),
but mostly based on having misunderstood the theoretical gain numbers for a
4-square. I thought that a 4-square had about 5.5dB gain over a dipole,
roughly equivalent to a 40-2CD. In fact, the gain of a 4-square is only
5.5dB over a single vertical (monopole.) Near as I can figure it, a dipole
over real ground is about 5.5dB louder than a monopole over average ground.
That would make a 4-square about equivalent to a dipole. The 40-2CD would
therefore be at least 5.5dB louder than the 4-square, and probably more if
the 4-square efficiency isn't optimum. That explains the test results pretty
well.
Before you call me a doofus for making that mistake, go try to find the
numbers in the ARRL Antenna Handbook or in ON4UN's Low Band DXing -- the
numbers are there but you have to do a lot of flipping around and converting
of dBi to dBd, adjusting for ground, etc. A simple table comparing various
antenna designs under "typical" conditions would be nice, wouldn't it?
I got really interested in the comparison when I noticed that as my contest
scores got better by improving other antennas, my 40m QSOs always lagged the
competition. Eventually, it became clear that I was giving away too much on
40m and that I must have been wrong about the 4-square. Luckily, the used
40-2CD became available for a one-year loan just as I was pondering what to
do (the same fellow loaned me an extension kit for the AB-577/GRC that can
raise the height to 75 feet.)
Of course, a 4-square has other advantages. If the radial system is good,
the radiation angle should be lower. I'll have to check that out on some
long-haul paths. More important, the F/B of the 4-square is much better than
the 40-2CD. The 4-square has an F/B of at least 20dB, while the 40-2CD seems
to be about 5dB-15dB (hard to measure, but it's clearly not very good.) This
could be important when stateside QRM is bad. Also, the 4-square is
significantly less noisy than the 40-2CD. Finally, the 4-square can switch
directions instantly. Still, all in all, I'll take the extra forward gain! I
should get a chance to check out the 40-2CD in action this weekend in IARU.
I've always loved the "idea" of a 4-square (an antenna you can build with no
concrete and no help), and it really is an excellent compromise antenna, but
it just doesn't cut it for bands higher than 80m.
73, Dick WC1M
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Mon Jul 8 19:04:50 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [YCCC] 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <000e01c226a9$f5a428e0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Interesting. But you should really compare them over a longer period,
especially during good spring or fall propagation. In many years of
experience here a full size 4-square with only 4 radials raised about 5'
has performed better than a 40-2cd at 60' on long paths into Russia and
asia. It was sometimes as good as a 40-2cd at 120'. Now that the
40-2cd's are at 90' and 180' it is rarely as good as either one. The
main advantages I see in having both is that the f/b of the 4 square is
better so sometimes it hears better, the takeoff angle is different so
sometimes it is better on some paths, it is good for a quick switch in
direction when getting called by an LU or JA when working Europe, and it
is vertical which provides a choice of polarization(though this doesn't
seem as important as it is on 80m and 160m).
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yccc-admin@yccc.org [mailto:yccc-admin@yccc.org] On Behalf Of
Dick
> Green
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 17:51
> To: CONTEST; Tower; YCCC
> Subject: [YCCC] 4-square vs 40-2CD
>
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m
antennas
> "side-by-side" and thought the results would be of interest. I've had
a
> 40m
> 4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five years.
> Yesterday,
> I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC portable guyed
> military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two antennas.
There
> was
> no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units louder than
the
> 4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB per S-unit,
that
> translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher would
improve
> these results.
>
> I say the opportunity for such a comparison is rare because most
people
> replace one antenna with another rather than keeping the old one and
> adding
> a new one. We often see claims like "this antenna is so much better
than
> my
> old antenna", when the comparison is actually made from memory of what
the
> old antenna was like. That's subjective at best. There's no substitute
for
> being able to switch back and forth under a wide variety of
conditions.
> It's
> also nice when the difference is definitive, as it was in my test.
>
> I've been wondering about the relative merits of the 4-square and beam
for
> some time. A couple of years ago, someone at a YCCC meeting complained
> that
> his 40m 4-square just couldn't keep up with the 2-el beams (can't
remember
> who it was.) I disputed the claim, feeling that my full-size 4-square
with
> 60 radials per element was reasonable close in performance to a 2-el
yagi.
> This assertion was partly based on having done reasonably well on 40m
in
> contests, partly based on denial (building a 4-square is a lot of
work!),
> but mostly based on having misunderstood the theoretical gain numbers
for
> a
> 4-square. I thought that a 4-square had about 5.5dB gain over a
dipole,
> roughly equivalent to a 40-2CD. In fact, the gain of a 4-square is
only
> 5.5dB over a single vertical (monopole.) Near as I can figure it, a
dipole
> over real ground is about 5.5dB louder than a monopole over average
> ground.
> That would make a 4-square about equivalent to a dipole. The 40-2CD
would
> therefore be at least 5.5dB louder than the 4-square, and probably
more if
> the 4-square efficiency isn't optimum. That explains the test results
> pretty
> well.
>
> Before you call me a doofus for making that mistake, go try to find
the
> numbers in the ARRL Antenna Handbook or in ON4UN's Low Band DXing --
the
> numbers are there but you have to do a lot of flipping around and
> converting
> of dBi to dBd, adjusting for ground, etc. A simple table comparing
various
> antenna designs under "typical" conditions would be nice, wouldn't it?
>
> I got really interested in the comparison when I noticed that as my
> contest
> scores got better by improving other antennas, my 40m QSOs always
lagged
> the
> competition. Eventually, it became clear that I was giving away too
much
> on
> 40m and that I must have been wrong about the 4-square. Luckily, the
used
> 40-2CD became available for a one-year loan just as I was pondering
what
> to
> do (the same fellow loaned me an extension kit for the AB-577/GRC that
can
> raise the height to 75 feet.)
>
> Of course, a 4-square has other advantages. If the radial system is
good,
> the radiation angle should be lower. I'll have to check that out on
some
> long-haul paths. More important, the F/B of the 4-square is much
better
> than
> the 40-2CD. The 4-square has an F/B of at least 20dB, while the 40-2CD
> seems
> to be about 5dB-15dB (hard to measure, but it's clearly not very
good.)
> This
> could be important when stateside QRM is bad. Also, the 4-square is
> significantly less noisy than the 40-2CD. Finally, the 4-square can
switch
> directions instantly. Still, all in all, I'll take the extra forward
gain!
> I
> should get a chance to check out the 40-2CD in action this weekend in
> IARU.
>
> I've always loved the "idea" of a 4-square (an antenna you can build
with
> no
> concrete and no help), and it really is an excellent compromise
antenna,
> but
> it just doesn't cut it for bands higher than 80m.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
> _______________________________________________
> YCCC Reflector
> yccc@yccc.org
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/yccc
>From g3xtt at lineone.net Mon Jul 8 22:20:25 2002
From: g3xtt@lineone.net (Donald Field)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Contest
Message-ID: <028101c226bd$07a62a80$f9d2403e@field>
IOTA Contest 2002 (1200 27 July to 1200 28 July)
Just a over a couple of weeks now until this year's IOTA Contest. And,
judging by the announcemenents in the bulletins and on the reflectors, there
will be a huge ammount of island activity; plenty of multipliers for the
serious contesters, plenty of IOTA counters for the IOTA enthusiasts. It
looks like being the best IOTA Contest yet!
Most of you will have seen the write-up and results from last year (if not,
they are of course on the RSGB HF Committee Web page - www.rsgbhfcc.org ).
The main rule changes this year are in the rules regarding island
DXpeditions, the introduction of a World multi-op category (previously, only
island stations could participate multi-op) and the introduction of a
100-watt option for all entrants.
When you submit your logs, do please ensure that the cover sheet makes clear
which section and category you are entering (especially, make clear whether
12- or 24-hour, whether 100-watt or high-power and whether CW, SSB or
multimode. Otherwise you will be automatically classified as 24-hour and/or
multimode and/or high-power). Advice on how to configure the most popular
logging programs for use in the contest has been posted on the Contests
Committee Web page (see above). There were particular problems last year
with entrants who had used CT. Under some configurations, the .LOG file did
not contain the received serial number (whereas the .ALL file did). Please
check that your log contains all the necessary information. Electronic logs
are preferred, ideally to the new address of iota.logs@rsgbhfcc.org Even if
you only make a few QSOs, please send a log - all logs are entered in the
master database for checking purposes. We hope to improve the collection of
logs this year and I am especially grateful to Trey N5KO for working with us
on this, as he has previously done for both CQ and ARRL.
73 Don Field G3XTT
IOTA Contest Manager
g3xtt@lineone.net (also iotacontest@rsgbhfcc.org )
>From dl3td at t-online.de Mon Jul 8 21:52:21 2002
From: dl3td@t-online.de (Dr. Lothar Wilke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DA0HQ
Message-ID: <000301c226b0$9feffd00$039256d9@wilke>
Here is an information abt DA0HQ 2002 in IARU HF World Championship.
Band Mode QTH Frequencies
160 CW DL1AWI 1832
160 SSB DF0HQ 1842
80 CW DF0SAX 3511
80 SSB DF0HQ 3640/3780
40 CW DF0HQ 7003/7032
40 SSB DL1AWI 7050/7080
20 CW DF3CB 14032
20 SSB DJ7AA 14220/14240
15 CW DL6RAI 21032
15 SSB DF0HQ 21250
10 CW DF0HQ 28032
10 SSB DL0MGB 28480
QSL:DL5AXX
See you in the Championship!
All the best to all WRTC Teams!
73
Lothar, DL3TD/DF0HQ (ex Y24UK/Y34K)
Dr. Lothar Wilke, DL3TD
Tel.: +49 361 5612120
E-mail: dxhf@darc.de
Internet: http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/
http://www.tu-ilmenau.de/~df0hq
PR: dl3td@db0erf.#thr.deu.eu
>From TOMK5RC at aol.com Mon Jul 8 18:20:12 2002
From: TOMK5RC@aol.com (TOMK5RC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Chrome Moly Masts
Message-ID: <8d.1ac6bc8f.2a5b5c0c@aol.com>
After 12 years of selling the highest quality mast material available to the
amateur community, The Mast Man, Tom, K5RC, has sold the Productivity
Resources Mast business to Force 12. The same great masts will be available
from the finest antenna manufacturer. Contact F12 at www.force12inc.com or at
805-227-1680. A formal press release will be forthcoming.
Tom, K5RC
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>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:08 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Japan to OI2HQ IARU 2002 propagation forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DB6@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Maybe someone can forward this to a Japanese
mailing list, too.
73,
Jukka, OH6LI
- - -
Japan - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Japan - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz, QSX as announced
Hoping to work some Japanese stations at 1830-1900 UTC
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
Expecting to work Japanese stations at
1800-1900 UTC on SSB, 1830-1900 UTC on CW
because CW station is more to West.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB
40m expected to be open 1700-2000 UTC,
Peak in signals at 1800-1930 UTC
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open from contest start, 12 UTC
on 13th July to 2230 UTC and opening again at 1100 UTC
on 14th July, being open until contest end, 12 UTC on
14th July.
Peak in signals expected on 13th July from 17 UTC to 20 UTC
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m expected to be open from contest start 12 UTC to 1430 UTC
on 13th July. Opening is possible later, at 19-2030 UTC.
On 14th 15 should open at 04 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC on 14th July.
Peak in signals expected 13th July from 14 to 15 UTC and
14th Jyly from 0730 UTC to 09 UTC
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
Expecting to work Japanese stations from 12 UTC to 14 UTC
on 13th July, possibility for later opening at 20-2030 UTC,
On 14th July band may open at 08 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC.
Signal path is polar, so odd openings may occur even though
the announcd more likely hours may be worse.
73,
Jukka
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:14 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eastern NA to OI2HQ IARU 2002 Propagation Forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DB7@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Eastern North America - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Eastern North America - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz, QSX as announced
Hoping to work some Eastern NA stations at 0130-02 UTC
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
Expecting to work Eastern NA stations at
0130-02 UTC on SSB, 0130-0230 UTC on CW
because CW station is more to West.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
40m expected to be open 0000-0330 UTC,
Peak in signals 0130-0230 UTC.
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open from 2200 UTC on July 13th to
09 UTC on July 14th.
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m expected to be open from contest start 12 UTC on
July 13th to 1930 UTC.
Opening is possible later, even after 23 UTC.
On July 14th 15m opens at 1030 UTC and is open to
contest end, 12 UTC July 14th.
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
Expecting to work Eastern NA stations from contest start,
July 13th, 12 UTC to 19 UTC if Aurora is vague enough.
On July 13th, possibility for the opening to continue beyond 2200 UTC.
On July 14th band should open at 11 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC.
Signal path is polar, so odd openings may occur even though
the announcd more likely hours may be worse.
73,
Jukka
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:18 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Europe - OI2HQ IARU 2002 Propagation forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DB8@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Europe - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Europe - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz
160 should open at 1630UTC and close 0530 UTC.
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB
80m is open 13th July 1500 UTC to 14th July 0630 UTC.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB,
40m opens 13th July 14 UTC and closes 0730 UTC on 14th July.
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open full 24 hours.
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m should be open from contest start 12 UTC on
13th July to 22 UTC.
On 14th July 15m should open at 03 UTC and stay
open to contest end, 12 UTC July 14th.
If direct propagation is bad, OI2HQ encourages the European
stations to beam to NA or JA directions to access backscatter
propagation on 15.
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
10m is open from contest start, July 13th 12 UTC to 20 UTC.
On July 14th band should open at 0330 UTC and stay open to
contest end, 12 UTC.
If direct propagation is bad, OI2HQ encourages the European
stations to beam to NA or JA directions to access backscatter
propagation on 10.
73,
Jukka
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:29 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Western North America - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation
forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DBA@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Western North America - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Mid North America - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz, QSX as announced
No propagation expected
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
No propagation expected.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
40m may be possible for bigger stations to log OI2HQ
between 04 to 0430 UTC.
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open from 0030 UTC on July 13th to
0830 UTC on July 14th.
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m may be open from contest start 12 UTC on
July 13th to 1930 UTC if Aurora is vague enough.
Opening is likely later, after 23 UTC.
On July 14th 15m may open at 1130 UTC and is open to
contest end, 12 UTC July 14th.
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
Hoping to work Western NA stations from July 13th, 13 UTC
to 1730 UTC if Aurora is vague enough.
On July 14th band may open at 1130 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC.
Signal path is polar, so odd openings may occur even though
the announcd more likely hours may be worse.
A polar opening may be possible during OI2HQ nighttime,
after 23 UTC on July 13th, possibility exists until 02 UTC July 14th.
73,
Jukka
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:34 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Mid North America - OI2HQ IARU 2002 Propagation Forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DBB@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Mid North America - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Mid North America - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz, QSX as announced
No conditions expected
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
Expecting to work some Mid NA stations at
02-0230 UTC.
Signals will be weak if there is any propagation.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
40m expected to be open 02-03 UTC for big stations.
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open from 2300 UTC on July 13th to
0830 UTC on July 14th.
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m expected to be open from contest start 12 UTC on
July 13th to 1930 UTC.
Opening is possible later, even after 23 UTC.
On July 14th 15m opens at 1030 UTC and is open to
contest end, 12 UTC July 14th.
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
Expecting to work Mid NA stations from contest start,
July 13th, 12 UTC to 1730 UTC if Aurora is vague enough.
On July 14th band may open at 1130 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC.
Signal path is polar, so odd openings may occur even though
the announcd more likely hours may be worse.
73,
Jukka
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Jul 8 19:36:29 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [Towertalk] 4-square vs 40-2CD
References: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <025401c226cf$e78f2900$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Dick,
More is better in one facet of life I participate in - antennas!
I never cease to be amazed at how antennas HEAR differently...as such
current efforts at my station are to increase diversity of antennas - so to
enhance RECEIVING...
If you can keep both antennas I would recommend it...you may find that while
the 4 square always comes in second as far as RST rx from other stations it
may hear better at certain times of day and at certain combinations of
conditions....
I love the 40-2CD as anyone who has ever heard me talk about mine has been
bored to tears with, but I am also working on some phased verticals for 40
now...
Granted I am no doubt headed into the oh sh&* too many things to choose from
syndrome but all it takes is a weekend of bouncing around to reaffirm my
belief that more IS better...as they say in sport
On any given weekend!
GL
Jim, K4OJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Green" <dick.green@valley.net>
To: "CONTEST" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; "Tower"
<towertalk@contesting.com>; "YCCC" <yccc@yccc.org>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:51 PM
Subject: [Towertalk] 4-square vs 40-2CD
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m antennas
> "side-by-side" and thought the results would be of interest. I've had a
40m
> 4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five years.
Yesterday,
> I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC portable guyed
> military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two antennas. There
was
> no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units louder than the
> 4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB per S-unit, that
> translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher would improve
> these results.
>
> I say the opportunity for such a comparison is rare because most people
> replace one antenna with another rather than keeping the old one and
adding
> a new one. We often see claims like "this antenna is so much better than
my
> old antenna", when the comparison is actually made from memory of what the
> old antenna was like. That's subjective at best. There's no substitute for
> being able to switch back and forth under a wide variety of conditions.
It's
> also nice when the difference is definitive, as it was in my test.
>
> I've been wondering about the relative merits of the 4-square and beam for
> some time. A couple of years ago, someone at a YCCC meeting complained
that
> his 40m 4-square just couldn't keep up with the 2-el beams (can't remember
> who it was.) I disputed the claim, feeling that my full-size 4-square with
> 60 radials per element was reasonable close in performance to a 2-el yagi.
> This assertion was partly based on having done reasonably well on 40m in
> contests, partly based on denial (building a 4-square is a lot of work!),
> but mostly based on having misunderstood the theoretical gain numbers for
a
> 4-square. I thought that a 4-square had about 5.5dB gain over a dipole,
> roughly equivalent to a 40-2CD. In fact, the gain of a 4-square is only
> 5.5dB over a single vertical (monopole.) Near as I can figure it, a dipole
> over real ground is about 5.5dB louder than a monopole over average
ground.
> That would make a 4-square about equivalent to a dipole. The 40-2CD would
> therefore be at least 5.5dB louder than the 4-square, and probably more if
> the 4-square efficiency isn't optimum. That explains the test results
pretty
> well.
>
> Before you call me a doofus for making that mistake, go try to find the
> numbers in the ARRL Antenna Handbook or in ON4UN's Low Band DXing -- the
> numbers are there but you have to do a lot of flipping around and
converting
> of dBi to dBd, adjusting for ground, etc. A simple table comparing various
> antenna designs under "typical" conditions would be nice, wouldn't it?
>
> I got really interested in the comparison when I noticed that as my
contest
> scores got better by improving other antennas, my 40m QSOs always lagged
the
> competition. Eventually, it became clear that I was giving away too much
on
> 40m and that I must have been wrong about the 4-square. Luckily, the used
> 40-2CD became available for a one-year loan just as I was pondering what
to
> do (the same fellow loaned me an extension kit for the AB-577/GRC that can
> raise the height to 75 feet.)
>
> Of course, a 4-square has other advantages. If the radial system is good,
> the radiation angle should be lower. I'll have to check that out on some
> long-haul paths. More important, the F/B of the 4-square is much better
than
> the 40-2CD. The 4-square has an F/B of at least 20dB, while the 40-2CD
seems
> to be about 5dB-15dB (hard to measure, but it's clearly not very good.)
This
> could be important when stateside QRM is bad. Also, the 4-square is
> significantly less noisy than the 40-2CD. Finally, the 4-square can switch
> directions instantly. Still, all in all, I'll take the extra forward gain!
I
> should get a chance to check out the 40-2CD in action this weekend in
IARU.
>
> I've always loved the "idea" of a 4-square (an antenna you can build with
no
> concrete and no help), and it really is an excellent compromise antenna,
but
> it just doesn't cut it for bands higher than 80m.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
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>From paul at ei5di.com Tue Jul 9 01:52:50 2002
From: paul@ei5di.com (Paul O'Kane)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Contest - Logging Software
References: <028101c226bd$07a62a80$f9d2403e@field>
Message-ID: <001501c226da$ae26ce60$e5a5fea9@dell>
SDI (SD for IOTA) is the only contest logger dedicated to the IOTA
Contest, and has been since the contest started in 1993. As such,
it has features specific to this event not found on any other
contest logger.
SDI V9.91 is intended for single-op unassisted entries and is
FreeWare. SDICHECK, the post-contest program distributed with
SDI, has been updated to include a World Multi-Op entry category
on the Summary Sheet.
SDI is a DOS program, but it runs in all versions of Windows -
please review the README.1ST file for more information.
SDI may be downloaded from http://www.ei5di.com/sd/sdi991.zip (327
kb).
73,
Paul EI5DI
http://www.ei5di.com
>From w8aef at worldnet.att.net Mon Jul 8 22:48:59 2002
From: w8aef@worldnet.att.net (Paul Playford)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
References: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <000201c226ea$5d32ac80$38f4fea9@paulplay>
Great report Dick. I am of the same opinion, the only way to compare
antennas is to be able to switch between them.
At one time I had a Hygain antenna that consisted of two linearly loaded
elements on 40 and 3 full size elements on 20. It's been a long time but
I think it may have been a 402BA or something like that. My observations
were similar to yours on both gain and f/b on 40 but a real performer on 20.
So poor on 40 that I gave it away when I obtained my first 204BA.
An observation I made a couple of years ago is that yagi height is very
important, just like the books say but we never believe (big antennas, high
in the sky, work better than little antennas down low). It was during
Sweepstakes that I noticed my tribander at 30 feet was outperforming my
monoband yagi's at 70-78-86 feet. And in excess of 10 dB. I even checked
them with an analyzer! As an afterthought I cranked the tower down and when
all the antennas were at about the same height they performed equally well.
I have concluded that on 20-15-10 if you want to talk to someone less that
2500 miles away about 30 feet heighth works best, and if further than 2500
miles then the higher antennas work best.
So I will be anxiously watching for your report from the IARU.
My 4 squares have elevated radials and I have a feeling that they are
between a 2 element and a 3 element yagi.
Your IARU report may be the impetus I need to put my other 72 foot tower up
with a 40 meter yagi on it.
de Paul, W8AEF
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Green" <dick.green@valley.net>
To: "CONTEST" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; "Tower"
<towertalk@contesting.com>; "YCCC" <yccc@yccc.org>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:51 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m antennas
>From richard at karlquist.com Mon Jul 8 21:01:57 2002
From: richard@karlquist.com (Richard Karlquist)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [Towertalk] 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <MGEKKFGEAIKJOOPJPGIKAEPHCJAA.richard@karlquist.com>
I'll believe your test, but a better
test is a simple dipole against a simple
vertical. That way, implementation
problems of the 4-square and Yagi don't
confuse the results.
This must vary with location. At my QTH,
before building my 7 element vertical
array, I A/B'ed a simple vertical against
a 90 foot high inverted vee. Within the
resolution I could get switching back
and forth, these were interchangeable for
me. Maybe the dipole really is 2 dB better,
and I just can't measure to that resolution.
I haven't tried it, but wouldn't be surprised
if a dipole did start to get a substantial
advantage at a really high height, like 140+
feet.
>From all the positive press than 90 foot
high beams on 40m get, I expected much
more than I got with my vee at 90 feet.
(Note: proper precautions were taken
to avoid mutual coupling effects between
antennas).
Rick Karlquist N6RK
richard@karlquist.com
www.n6rk.com
www.karlquist.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dick Green
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 AM
> To: CONTEST; Tower; YCCC
> Subject: [Towertalk] 4-square vs 40-2CD
>
>
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very
> different 40m antennas
> "side-by-side" and thought the results would be of
> interest. I've had a 40m
> 4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five
> years. Yesterday,
> I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC
> portable guyed
> military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two
> antennas. There was
> no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units
> louder than the
> 4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB
> per S-unit, that
> translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher
> would improve
> these results.
>
>
>From n5ia at zia-connection.com Mon Jul 8 21:11:55 2002
From: n5ia@zia-connection.com (Milt Jensen at N5IA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
References: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <003301c226f6$65b58380$6427140a@2gHz.Screamer.aznex.net>
Keep 'em both, Dick. There are never enough antennas! You will find the
4-Square extremely advantageous in the heat of battle and it will perform
better than the 2 element directional about 30% of the time.
The 4-Square we used at XZ0A in January, 2000 was elevated with 12 radials
on each element and the performance was tremendous. Same for the 80 Meter
4-Square and the single element 160 Meter Groundplane.
Good luck with your endeavors.
Milt, N5IA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Green" <dick.green@valley.net>
To: "CONTEST" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; "Tower"
<towertalk@contesting.com>; "YCCC" <yccc@yccc.org>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m antennas
> "side-by-side" and thought the results would be of interest. I've had a
40m
> 4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five years.
Yesterday,
> I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC portable guyed
> military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two antennas. There
was
> no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units louder than the
> 4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB per S-unit, that
> translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher would improve
> these results.
>
> I say the opportunity for such a comparison is rare because most people
> replace one antenna with another rather than keeping the old one and
adding
> a new one. We often see claims like "this antenna is so much better than
my
> old antenna", when the comparison is actually made from memory of what the
> old antenna was like. That's subjective at best. There's no substitute for
> being able to switch back and forth under a wide variety of conditions.
It's
> also nice when the difference is definitive, as it was in my test.
>
> I've been wondering about the relative merits of the 4-square and beam for
> some time. A couple of years ago, someone at a YCCC meeting complained
that
> his 40m 4-square just couldn't keep up with the 2-el beams (can't remember
> who it was.) I disputed the claim, feeling that my full-size 4-square with
> 60 radials per element was reasonable close in performance to a 2-el yagi.
> This assertion was partly based on having done reasonably well on 40m in
> contests, partly based on denial (building a 4-square is a lot of work!),
> but mostly based on having misunderstood the theoretical gain numbers for
a
> 4-square. I thought that a 4-square had about 5.5dB gain over a dipole,
> roughly equivalent to a 40-2CD. In fact, the gain of a 4-square is only
> 5.5dB over a single vertical (monopole.) Near as I can figure it, a dipole
> over real ground is about 5.5dB louder than a monopole over average
ground.
> That would make a 4-square about equivalent to a dipole. The 40-2CD would
> therefore be at least 5.5dB louder than the 4-square, and probably more if
> the 4-square efficiency isn't optimum. That explains the test results
pretty
> well.
>
> Before you call me a doofus for making that mistake, go try to find the
> numbers in the ARRL Antenna Handbook or in ON4UN's Low Band DXing -- the
> numbers are there but you have to do a lot of flipping around and
converting
> of dBi to dBd, adjusting for ground, etc. A simple table comparing various
> antenna designs under "typical" conditions would be nice, wouldn't it?
>
> I got really interested in the comparison when I noticed that as my
contest
> scores got better by improving other antennas, my 40m QSOs always lagged
the
> competition. Eventually, it became clear that I was giving away too much
on
> 40m and that I must have been wrong about the 4-square. Luckily, the used
> 40-2CD became available for a one-year loan just as I was pondering what
to
> do (the same fellow loaned me an extension kit for the AB-577/GRC that can
> raise the height to 75 feet.)
>
> Of course, a 4-square has other advantages. If the radial system is good,
> the radiation angle should be lower. I'll have to check that out on some
> long-haul paths. More important, the F/B of the 4-square is much better
than
> the 40-2CD. The 4-square has an F/B of at least 20dB, while the 40-2CD
seems
> to be about 5dB-15dB (hard to measure, but it's clearly not very good.)
This
> could be important when stateside QRM is bad. Also, the 4-square is
> significantly less noisy than the 40-2CD. Finally, the 4-square can switch
> directions instantly. Still, all in all, I'll take the extra forward gain!
I
> should get a chance to check out the 40-2CD in action this weekend in
IARU.
>
> I've always loved the "idea" of a 4-square (an antenna you can build with
no
> concrete and no help), and it really is an excellent compromise antenna,
but
> it just doesn't cut it for bands higher than 80m.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
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>From ve3pn at igs.net Tue Jul 9 06:49:56 2002
From: ve3pn@igs.net (Peter Barron)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #244 - 11 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200207090114.g691Es5r013130@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000101c2270c$75041d90$98f4a8c0@HOMEOFFICE>
Hi Jamie
If you need Kenwood connector pin outs a good location is at
http://ftp.kenwood.net/Amateur/Connectors/?plain
Peter Barron
Ve3pn@igs.net
From: Jaime Robles <jaime@robles.nu>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Home made Digital Voice Keyer and a Kenwood
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Hello all!
I have just finished a DVK (the K6XX one) but it does not work.
Well, i am not a good builder but i have built some kits and circuits
before... maybe i have made a mistake.
The main problem for me is that i have not used a DVK before so i don't know
about how it works...
Could anybody tell me about the connections to a kenwood rig, please? (TS-50
but i think the others have the same pinout).
On the other hand... if you know another DVK circuit and you can tell me
about
the URL i will thank you.
Many thanks.
73.
- --
Un saludo,
Jaime Robles, EA4TV
jaime@robles.nu
Visita http://www.redlibre.net - La Red Libre de todos!
http://smsdx.net - El DXCluster en tu movil!
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>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Tue Jul 9 12:44:25 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (Timo)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OJ Calls Checklist for WRTC2002
Message-ID: <00a901c22724$d7249500$a6c5f83e@tklimoff>
WRTC2002 OJ calls check list is available in Excel (XLS)-format:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/ojcalls.xls
Roland, DK3GI has made this list in PDF-format available in BCC homepage:
http://www.bavarian-contest-club.de/contest/OJ_Checkliste.pdf
73, Timo OH1NOA
>From nt5c at texas.net Tue Jul 9 08:15:03 2002
From: nt5c@texas.net (John Warren)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <000201c226ea$5d32ac80$38f4fea9@paulplay>
References: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
<000201c226ea$5d32ac80$38f4fea9@paulplay>
Message-ID: <p04330108b9508c0b51dd@EIM-Mac-1.0.7>
Paul W8AEF wrote:
>My 4 squares have elevated radials and I have a feeling that they are
>between a 2 element and a 3 element yagi.
In theory, a 4-square is sort of equivalent to a vertically polarized
3-el Yagi. The two corner verticals driven in parallel are a
"distributed" driven element. The other two verticals are a director
and reflector respectively. Obviously that's subject to all the usual
disclaimers about how well the 4-square is made, especially how good
the "ground" is under each element.
Most articles I've read agree with Paul. The end result of a well
implemented 4-square seems usually to be just a bit better for DX
than a 2-el Yagi. So on 40M I'll stick with my much-loved 40-2CD, but
on 80/160....!!
John, NT5C.
>From k7qq at netzero.net Tue Jul 9 15:09:59 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5
References: <143.110c2e1f.2a58cece@aol.com>
<5.1.1.2.2.20020707102918.00ba09d8@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <000901c22752$86d06100$86272a42@k7qq>
W1AW meets all the requirements. /5 for those old enuf to rember when
there was a requirement.
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob, N5RP" <N5RP@pdq.net>
To: "TDXS Reflector" <tdxs-list@moonbounce.n5iq.org>;
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 15:40
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5
> The WRTC thing coming up next weekend .......
>
> The prizes that are mentioned for early log turn in and for working all of
> the OJ stations ..........
> ........... What, exactly, are these prizes ?
> I'm drooling to know.
>
> Also,
> The W1AW/5 stations.......
> Should they identify themselves as W5/W1AW, W1AW/W5, or is, in fact,
W1AW/5
> acceptable?
>
> What meets the properly defined procedural configuration for station
> identification?
>
> If I work them using QRP, can I sign as N5RP/QRP ??
> Bob Perring
> ...........................................
> Amateur Radio Station N5RP
> mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
> N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 9 10:46:50 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 09Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207091646.g69GkoV02066@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 09Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please vist -
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
VE5RI 527 1214 41 40 24 818,424
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
K4BAI 181 22 0 0 27,632 SECC
K1GU 118 0 28 0 4 24,920 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE5SF 416 562 39 39 18 579,696
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VA6RA 1 180 1 24 39,050
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VA3WN 142 50 13 10 6 26,542
W0ETT 100 2 25 1 7 21,632 Grand Mesa
W1TO 67 12 15 5 12,680 YCCC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
N4WSM 0 29 0 13 4,550 TCG
W4NZ 32 3 9 2 3,300
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 9 10:49:06 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RSGB Jubilee - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207091649.g69Gn6x02078@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RSGB Jubilee - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 6, 2002
E-mail logs to: hf.contests@rsgb.org.uk
Mail logs to:
RSGB HF Contests Committee
c/o SV Knowles, G3UFY
77 Bensham Manor Road
Thornton, Heath
Surrey CR7 7AF
UK
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SCW HP
N2ED 78 12 2 3,900 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SMixed HP
GQ6YB 2209 83 24 916,735 Bristol CG
MQ5ZAP 2171 62 24 673,010
G4FAL 999 32 159,840
XM4VV 892 33 21 146,850
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SSSB LP
CQ1CV(@CS6ARP) 567 55 12 155,925 Radio Clube Costa Ve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)CW HP
GQ3TXF(G3TXF) 1405 62 20 429,970
K6III 67 19 8 100 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)Mixed HP
LY4AA(@LY7A) 597 80 20 238,800
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 300 23 3 33,925
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)Mixed LP
GQ4IIY(G4IIY) 616 22 9 67,760
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)SSB HP
VE7AVV 102 17 8 1,734 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOCW HP
9H1ZA 1885 75 706,875
GQ4ZVJ(G4ZVJ) 1202 65 24 390,650
G3LET 1190 63 23 374,850 HARC
GW3NJW 1152 51 21 293,760
GM4SID 848 45 20 190,800
N4BP 316 51 14 80,580 FCG
GQ5LP(G5LP) 450 23 5 51,750 Mid Beds Contest Ass
K2SX 120 27 16,200 YCCC
SP5WA 124 21 22 13,020
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOCW LP
XM3IAY(VE3IAY) 168 25 21,000
RW3VZ 133 26 17,290
HB9ARF 150 20 15,000
AB2E 66 17 4 5,610 FRC
VE9DX 75 12 1 4,500
VA3XRZ 26 6 2 780
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOMixed HP
XM3EJ(VE3EJ) 1771 91 24 801,225
TI5/N0KE(@TI5KD) 225 44 10 49,500 Grand Mesa
SP9W(SP9HWN) 245 33 40,425
W4SAA 138 34 23,430 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOMixed LP
VE3MQW 224 34 38,080
ZC40DW(G0DEZ) 558 13 7 36,270 Eastern Sovereign Ba
LY2XW 224 30 33,600
K4OGG 143 20 13,800
GQ0DVJ(G0DVJ) 180 7 5 6,300
VO1TA(VO1WET) 386 8 6 1,930
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB HP
GS2MP(GM3WOJ) 1392 62 20 431,520 North of Scotland CG
GW0GEI 1044 48 15 250,560 Contest Cymru
XM3KZ(VE3KZ) 1021 42 214,200
GQ4BLE(GW4BLE) 711 39 138,645 Contest Cambria
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB LP
ZC40BS(G4KIV) 376 22 6 41,360
MQ5RIC(M5RIC) 409 8 16,360
9M2RPN(VK2CZ) 79 7 3 2,660
SV1XV 32 6 3 960
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB QRP
N3GXY 23 4 1 460
Operators:
CQ1CV CT1ERK,CT1ETE
GQ6YB G0HFX,G0WKW,G3TKF,G3XSV,G4FKA,G7ORR,M0AXF/EI3JE,
M0XXX
MQ5ZAP 5B4WN,M0TTT,M5ZAP
XM4VV VE4VV,VE4XT
>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Tue Jul 9 23:09:26 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Realtime scoreboard
Message-ID: <20020709190926.YAKP4192.fep02-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.108]>
World Top Contesters air new OJ prefixes from Helsinki, Finland, Saturday 13th
at 12:00 UTC in the World Radiosport Team Championship 2002 ( WRTC2002 )
http://www.wrtc2002.org
Look for an advanced web based scoreboard live at:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/realtime.htm
(available 12:00 UTC 13.7.02 - 12:00 UTC 14.7.02).
Submit your Early Bird log in 6-hours from the end of the contest to qualify
for attractive prices:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm
WRTC2002 Organization
>From N5RP at pdq.net Tue Jul 9 20:35:46 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AEA CK-2 Keyers for sale
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020709193245.00b433d0@pop.pdq.net>
I have two of them.
Both in very good physical condition and all functions operate.
On one of them the #3 push button "sometimes" is hard to engage to make
contact.
Power cubes and manual for each.
Figure they are better served to go to a contest station.
$50.00 each, shipping costs to the account of the buyer.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From k8cc at comcast.net Tue Jul 9 22:45:00 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020709212132.009bc940@mail.comcast.net>
Dick,
Thanks for sharing your observations on your 40M four-square vs. a
40-2CD. My only caveat is to keep in mind that the comparison you make
during the summer will not always jibe with the same comparison in
winter. Radiation angles tend to be higher in the summer which would favor
the low yagi over the verticals. Your observation about the gain of a
four-square being 6 dB *over a vertical* which makes it about even with a
dipole over ground is absolutely correct. However, its not the entire story.
We've been using a wire four-square on 80M here at K8CC since 1994. We've
had just about every kind of 80M DX antenna here at this location: slopers,
delta loops, bobtails, half-squares, a 3L wire yagi and even a beautiful
N4ZC-style log periodic with the center at 110' and the ends at 90'. It's
my opinion (and shared by my guest operators) that none of these antennas
match the four-square, at least on 80M when you're limited to 120' supports.
That is not to say that the others were bad antennas. The simple little
half-square made UN2L's "loud LP 80M signals" list one year. The wire yagi
and N4ZC log periodic made lots of gain and were great pileup
crashers. But until we put up the four-square we couldn't hear down to the
weak layer of EU necessary to be able to run successfully on CW from
W8. Once we put up the four-square, the results were immediately noticable
on our 80M line score, and our 80M op was a lot happier too.
Again, I agree with your observation that verticals (and hence,
four-squares) don't radiate as much signal as a dipole over ground. I've
often found, particularly on 75 SSB that with the four-square we can hear
more DX stations than we can work. With northern Europeans particularly,
I'll call and call a perfectly copiable SM or OH and not even get a QRZ?
from them. My gut says if I could run about four or five KW output the
transmit signal from the four-square would match the ability to
receive. However, my conscience won't let me do that...
A couple of years ago K3LR (who has a great 80M four-square made from
Hy-Towers) decided to try some big horizontal antennas like a W2PV 2L quad
and a 3L linear-loaded yagi. Perhaps he'd like to share his observations
here on the reflector, but neither antenna replaced his four-square.
Finally, the answer for 80M might be different than for 40M...
73,
Dave/K8CC
>From harry at oh6yf.com Wed Jul 10 06:31:13 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC guests are already in Finland! Photos...
References: <200207091646.g69GkoV02066@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <000e01c227b9$dcc20110$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hi!
I have put some more photos to my WRTC photo gallery at:
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
73 de Harry OH6YF
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
>From jjreisert at alum.mit.edu Wed Jul 10 08:34:58 2002
From: jjreisert@alum.mit.edu (Jim Reisert AD1C)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Short 'Power Naps' Found Best Performance Booster
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020710073448.0171e378@mail.attbi.com>
Mon Jul 8, 2:46 PM ET
By Nic Rowan
ADELAIDE, Australia (Reuters Health) - A 10-minute nap is better than a
half-hour snooze at improving work performance, according to new Australian
sleep research.
Associate Professor Leon Lack and postgraduate student Amber Tietzel
studied the effect of varying nap lengths in the School of Psychology Sleep
Laboratory at Flinders University in Adelaide. They conclude that 10
minutes is the most effective nap length for improving performance for up
to 3 hours afterward.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020708/hl_nm/sleep_work_dc_1
--
Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863
USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
>From marco.spalluzzi at orobiacom.it Wed Jul 10 16:45:14 2002
From: marco.spalluzzi@orobiacom.it (Marco Spalluzzi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AC noise
Message-ID: <001101c22818$05940cb0$6ac8a8c0@MARCOSPALLUZZI>
Hi guys, I've got a problem, probably related to ground connections.
When I tx and my amp switches on tx, I hear a little ac noise in the
headphones, but it's not only there, it really goes out.
An US guy said it's little, but you can hear it if one listen carefully.
It's not a gnd problem of the headphones (Heil HC-4), since it's the same
with a desk microphone.
If the amp is on, but I disconnect the relay switch (so it doesn't switch to
tx), the noise disappears.
I replace the relay cable with another one (2 cables + shield), with one
cable connected to the cable shield.
Grounding this or not, nothing changes.
I grounded it through the gnd connector on the back panel of the 775.
Grounding it to the amp, or any other device, could change something? I
think no, ground is ground for everyone.
I made some "disconnect and try" tests, first with unused antennas (it's not
an rf problem, and in fact it didn't help), then with some computer cables,
pc ground, rotator cable, power supply ac cable, ... but I didn't solve it.
Should I connect "signal gnd" to "shield gnd" on each cable?
Or, if connected together, should I separate them?
I really don't know what else disconnect.
Could it be due by an excessive mic gain or compressor gain, or both?
Pse answers here on the reflector, or private to ik2xsl@amsat.org
Thanks in advance, bye Marco - IK2XSL.
>From tony.kaz at verizon.net Wed Jul 10 13:09:14 2002
From: tony.kaz@verizon.net (N2TK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AC noise
In-Reply-To: <001101c22818$05940cb0$6ac8a8c0@MARCOSPALLUZZI>
Message-ID: <000601c2282c$23546240$6401a8c0@tony>
I had some ac reported on my signal on a dxpedition. It didn't happen on all
bands. If I removed the MFJ voice keyer it went away. I isolated the mike
ground from the ac and chassis ground to solve the problem.
Tony
N2TK
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Marco Spalluzzi
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 09:45
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AC noise
Hi guys, I've got a problem, probably related to ground connections.
When I tx and my amp switches on tx, I hear a little ac noise in the
headphones, but it's not only there, it really goes out.
An US guy said it's little, but you can hear it if one listen carefully.
It's not a gnd problem of the headphones (Heil HC-4), since it's the same
with a desk microphone.
If the amp is on, but I disconnect the relay switch (so it doesn't switch to
tx), the noise disappears.
I replace the relay cable with another one (2 cables + shield), with one
cable connected to the cable shield.
Grounding this or not, nothing changes.
I grounded it through the gnd connector on the back panel of the 775.
Grounding it to the amp, or any other device, could change something? I
think no, ground is ground for everyone.
I made some "disconnect and try" tests, first with unused antennas (it's not
an rf problem, and in fact it didn't help), then with some computer cables,
pc ground, rotator cable, power supply ac cable, ... but I didn't solve it.
Should I connect "signal gnd" to "shield gnd" on each cable?
Or, if connected together, should I separate them?
I really don't know what else disconnect.
Could it be due by an excessive mic gain or compressor gain, or both?
Pse answers here on the reflector, or private to ik2xsl@amsat.org
Thanks in advance, bye Marco - IK2XSL.
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CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Thu Jul 11 18:08:09 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] On the Bus with WRTC - #1 - 10 July 2002
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020711210809.011d9074@pop.vnet.net>
This is amazing! The number of people and calls and faces showing up
from all over the world -
some familiar from the log and some familiar from face-to-face meetings
past - boggles the
mind. It's like Saturday at 0000Z in the flesh.
My wife Nancy and I arrived yesterday on the 9th, shuttled flawlessly to
the WRTC hotel
headquarters by the efficient OH committee members led by Marje OH1RX.
There is nothing more
welcome after a long flight to a new land than a smiling face holding a
sign with 'WRTC' on it.
We had hardly set foot to ground before being greeted by OH2BH and
company. A milling company
of previous arrivals milled about the lobby and patio of the Radisson
SAS Espoo - WRTC nerve
center for the next week.
The big attraction on opening day is, of course, the beer tent where you
are suddenly
surrounded by a WAZ of friends. There are stories to tell,
congratulations to be made, and
pictures to be taken. Already present was Team Africa, Chris ZS6EZ and
Bernie ZS4TX, holding
their own with a running commentary of humourous observations.
Contesters from Zone 38 need a
certain amount of humor to keep going in the sport.
Also present are the "separated at birth" twins Trey N5KO and Juan
Carlos TG9AJR. If you've
never met this pair, you'd be amazed to learn that they are not
brothers. Trey, of course, is
well known from his many contest wins and the big presence from HC8N and
other Zone 10 calls.
A particularly loquacious trio is Wayne N7NG, Ohms PY5EG, and Walter
DL6QT. Here in a few
square feet is a troika of many years of contesting experiences and
adventures. You can ask
these guys anything - as in anything - and you will learn something
interesting.
The long, long, extra long daylight at 62N kept anyone from feeling the
late hours after their
long journeys. Suddenly, even though the sky said "mid-evening", our
watches said "1 AM" and
the jet lag started making itself felt. It was time to try out our
sleep masks and grab a few
winks.
The 10th found us working down the pileups at the breakfast buffet and
ready for the first of
our preparatory meetings. Appropriately for hams, this meeting was held
in the Dipoli
building. All of the competitors and referees were treated to an
overview of the competition
organization and rules, the basics of our stations, and a new element -
the WRTC Real-Time
Scoreboard.
The scoreboard is an idea that was finally realizable after the three
previous WRTC
competitions. Every hour, the referees will report the team's score to
a central server, using
Finland's legendary GSM mobile phone system. Nokia is a major sponsor
of WRTC-2002 and has
contibuted a number of interesting technologies to make the event both a
success and up-to-date
with the latest in communications.
The score information from each team will be posted to a Web page (see
www.wrtc2002.org for the
link to the page) for people around the world to watch. You will be
able to see simultaneously
the score and ranking of each team starting one hour after the start of
the competition at
1200Z on Saturday.
By the photographs you can see how seriously all of the participants are
taking WRTC and how
much work that the OH committee has done to make the competition a
success. After 90 minutes
of explanation about the competition, OH5JQ presented a fine video about
Finland and Finns.
They're very proud of their country and culture.
After lunch, we're all piled on buses, where I'm writing this. Headed
for Himos and SRAL (the
Finnish national radio society) Summer Camp, we're enjoying a cold soda
pop and the scenery as
we drive north from Helsinki through Lahti and the lake country.
Martti, OH2BH, has done a
good job of explaining the Finnish psyche - which has a lot to do with
three months of little
sun in the winter.
As a humorous interlude, a songbook of parodies of Beatle's song were
prepared by several of us
before WRTC. On the way to Lahti, we had a sing-along of songs like
"Martti Laine" (to the tune
of "Penny Lane") and "When I'm 64" rewritten by K1DG in honor of Jim
Neiger, N6TJ, who is
celebrating his 63rd birthday during the festivities.
All in good fun, of course. So far, there has been a little bit of ham
radio and a lot of
meeting and greeting. Tomorrow things begin to get a little more
serious with training of
referees and detailed review of rules by the competitors. On Friday, we
draw the referee
assignments and pick our secret callsigns - to be opened only minutes
before the competition.
Very quickly, it will be time to begin - as the hours pass, there is a
little more tension and
sharpness in the contester's demeanor. These are, after all, the very
best competitors in the
world getting ready for one of the best contests.
So for today - a toast from the bus on the way to Himos...Kiipis!
(Cheers!)
73, Ward N0AX/OH
>From k4ro at k4ro.net Thu Jul 11 23:39:58 2002
From: k4ro@k4ro.net (K4RO Kirk Pickering)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] On the Bus with WRTC - #1 - 10 July 2002
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020711210809.011d9074@pop.vnet.net>; from
btippett@alum.mit.edu on Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 05:08:09PM -0400
References: <1.5.4.32.20020711210809.011d9074@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <20020711223958.E20896@darkstar.k4ro.net>
Fabulous report from the front. How I wish I was there with you
all. Best of luck to all of the competitors. See you ops on the
air this weekend. 73 from Tennessee. (Thunderstorm-ridden zone 8)
-Kirk K4RO
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 05:08:09PM -0400, W4ZV Bill Tippett wrote:
> This is amazing! The number of people and calls and faces showing up
> from all over the world...
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 12 07:59:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 12Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207121359.g6CDxCB04884@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 12Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
VE5RI 527 1214 41 40 24 818,424
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
VE7AVV 0 809 0 40 15 198,960 BCDX Club
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
K4BAI 181 22 0 0 27,632 SECC
K1GU 118 0 28 0 4 24,920 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE5SF 416 562 39 39 18 579,696
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VA6RA 1 180 1 24 39,050
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VA3WN 142 50 13 10 6 26,542
W0ETT 100 2 25 1 7 21,632 Grand Mesa
W1TO 67 12 15 5 12,680 YCCC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
N4WSM 0 29 0 13 4,550 TCG
W4NZ 32 3 9 2 3,300
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
VE3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 56 41 6 9 12 9,870
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 12 08:00:45 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL June VHF - Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207121400.g6CE0jq04898@localhost.localdomain>
2002 ARRL June VHF - Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 10, 2002
E-mail logs to: JuneVHF@arrl.org
Mail logs to:
June VHF
ARRL
225 Main St.
Newington, CT 06111
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Limited Multi-Op HP
W3SO 997 264 332,904 PVRC
K8CC 663 211 29 169,644 MRRC
NI9E(@N9FH) 692 180 28 124,560 Badger Contesters
K5TR 426 156 78,000
VE6JW 292 120 30 36,360 Aurora VHF Society
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Limited Multi-Op LP
KB1DFB(@KB1H) 502 108 63,936 Eastern Connecticut
VE2ZP 141 67 12 12,194 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
N0UK 623 274 236,188 Northern Lights Radi
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Rover LP
K4EFD 54 38 15 5,358
K7VE/R 61 35 2,660
KI5DR/R 40 20 14 1,300 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op HP
K1TEO 1053 293 28 481,339
K3DNE 669 217 235,445
WB9Z 685 262 30 223,486
W2FU 477 230 23 206,540 Rochester VHF Group
K7RAT(N6TR) 452 153 25 80,325 Boring Amateur Radio
K5AM 364 165 62,205
K3ZO 436 125 22 54,500 PVRC
VE5UF 271 108 20 29,268
N5RZ 197 91 21 17,927
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op LP
N9DG 323 142 59,498 Badger Contesters
N6MU(@N6NB) 488 82 27 47,724 SCCC
W5SXD 169 103 24 21,424
N4GN 168 95 12 15,960 KCG
K8MR 151 81 6 15,795 MRRC
WD5K 186 77 14,322 NTCC
N8BJQ 159 83 12 13,197 SWODXA
VE3CVG 95 51 20 6,630
N7IR 104 46 26 6,164
K0UK 84 48 18 4,032 Grand Mesa
N2YEV 96 31 28 3,627
NL7CO 119 29 20 3,451
W8RU 54 36 4 2,232 MRRC
K5WPN 65 24 8 1,560
K6RIM 57 14 2 798 NCCC
K1VU 26 11 297 YCCC
N4WSM 11 7 84 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op QRP
N6ZZ 96 48 4 4,608
W6RCL 65 25 5 1,750
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op Port LP
W8CAR 42 29 5 1,218 MRRC
AE0Q 38 14 532 Grand Mesa
AB0MV 37 14 518 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op Port QRP
K9PW 510 189 31 145,908 SMC
W9GKA 111 55 24 7,865
N0JK 27 23 14 621
Operators:
K5TR K5TR,WM5R
K7VE/R K7VE,KD7PRN
K8CC K8CC,K9TM,WX3M
KB1DFB KB1DFB,KE1LI,N1XS
NI9E N9FH,N9LLT,N9VA,NI9E,W9GA
VE2ZP VA2ADB,VE2ZP
VE6JW VE6JW,VE6JY,VE6LDX,VE6MAA,WA2TMC
W3SO AI3M,K3IXD,W3PAW,W3TEF,W3YOZ,WR3Z
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 12 08:03:15 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU FD, CW - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207121403.g6CE3Fj04915@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU FD, CW - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: (see your national society rules)
E-mail logs to: (see your national society rules)
Mail logs to:
(see your national society rules)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Open HP
S55A/P 1296 206 881,062 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Open LP
DK0WT/P(DK2GZ) 910 168 528,192
S58U/P 928 145 24 463,275
DL0KD/P 633 136 24 291,720 RR DX
DF0BK/P 667 120 24 274,440
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Restricted LP
GM3POI/P 1152 159 24 631,866 Orkney ARC
DL0UP/P 925 170 24 540,770 L11
G0RGH/P 535 0 24 2,268 Harwich Amateur Radi
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Fixed HP
F5IN 724 126 323,064 U.F.T.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Fixed LP
LY1DS 258 55 3 51,590 Lithuanian DX
YL2PN 100 30 3 393 Latvian CC
S52MY 5 21 1 105
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Open HP
VE3XAX 354 76 19 89,224 U-VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Open LP
S51JM/P 170 67 9 40,401
Operators:
DF0BK/P DL4SDW,DL4SDX,DL5SEJ,DL8SCG
DL0KD/P DJ5CU,DL1EKC,DL2EBH
DL0UP/P DL1EFD,DL1EFO
G0RGH/P G0DVJ,G0SCP,G3ZQU,G4AQZ,G4EYE,G4FTP,G4WHK,M0CGE
GM3POI/P G3MXJ,GM3POI
S55A/P S53Z,S55A,S56A,S57AD,S57NWT,S57RW,S57UKE,S58O,
S59KW
S58U/P S51VA,S51VI,S53AU,S57LO,S57RR,S59AV
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 12 11:23:55 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FCC Wants Your Input
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020712142355.011ed77c@pop.vnet.net>
Here's a copy of a message I put on the DX List:
"While on the subject of the new 5 MHz and 137 kHz bands, ARRL
summarized the FCC's NPRM here:
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2002/05/15/100/
In particular, note the following:
"The FCC has proposed letting amateurs
operate at full legal limit on
a new 5 MHz allocation, but it left
open for further discussion
whether to restrict the band to Amateur
Extra Class licensees or make
it available to General and higher
class licensees. The FCC also
invited further comment on whether the
band should be broken
down into mode-specific subbands. The
ARRL had proposed opening the entire band
to RTTY, data (including CW), phone and
image emission types."
The FCC's NPRM is here:
http://www.arrl.org/announce/regulatory/et02-98/
with the specific paragraphs regarding these issues here:
39. It appears that amateur radio operators should be able to avoid
interference to primary operations in this band due to the
limited numbers of primary assignments[92] which are authorized for
operation in the 5250-5400 kHz band, and their
experience in sharing HF frequencies in other bands. The operational
protocol of "listen before transmit" employed by amateur
radio operators should further minimize interference. We note that currently
this technique is not explicitly required by our Rules
and we request comment on whether it should be explicitly stated in the
Rules in order to protect the primary operators in the
5250-5400 kHz band. We propose to limit the output power of the amateur
stations to 1500 W PEP as requested by ARRL.
Further, we invite comments as to whether the 5250-5400 kHz band should be
restricted to Amateur radio operators with an
Amateur Extra Class license to better ensure compatible sharing with the
Federal Government operations, or could the band
also be made available to operators with a General or Advanced Class license
just as in the 10,100-10,150 kHz band (30
meter band). [93] We invite comment on whether the power limit and operator
license requirement are sufficient to prevent
interference to primary users, and whether an EIRP limit would also be
appropriate for this frequency band. We also invite
comment on other means that will reduce potential interference.
40. The 5000 kHz Petition does not discuss sub-banding and ARRL's suggested
rules would allow all emission types to use
the entire band.[94] We note that several commenters suggest that
sub-banding would be useful. We further note that Section
97.305 of our Rules segregates digital modes from other amateur station
emission modes in the 3500 kHz and 7000 kHz bands
to protect narrow band emissions like data from wider emissions like
single-side band voice.[95] We request comment on
whether sub-banding is necessary and/or appropriate for the 5000 kHz band as
well.
I personally believe sub-banding should be done with a simple
demarcation between narrowband (CW, digital) and wideband (phone,
image) just as we have on every other HF band except 160 meters. On
160, I've personally experienced numerous problems with inter-modal
interference over the past 18 years, and that is whay I was a
co-sponsor of RM-10352 which proposed a simple demarcation of 1840 and
below for narrowband modes only.
If you want to submit comments to the FCC, it is VERY simple
to do. Just go to this site:
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi
enter only 02-98 in Box 1, fill out the other "required" boxes
(2,3,7,8,9,10 and 12), and submit your comments either as an attached
file (using the first form in Adobe PDF, MS Word, MS Excel,
WordPerfect, ASCII or Lotus 123) or, more simply, just type your
comments in the bottom Brief Comment form. After you submit,
a confirmation screen will appear and you click "Finish Transaction
and Receive Confirmation". A final confirmation screen should appear
with your name and a confirmation number if all is accepted correctly.
In summary, the FCC's questions about 5 MHz are:
1. Power limit of 1500 watts OK?
2. Amateur Extra or General and above?
3. Is sub-banding necessary and appropriate? If you feel
it is, you might want to suggest a dividing line such as 5250-5300
for narrowband only (CW, digital).
I feel ARRL generally represents our interests well, but the
FCC has made it very simple for all of us to make comments directly.
If you feel you want to make your voice heard, take a few minutes to
do so now before the comment window closes July 29. If we don't,
we have nobody (including ARRL) to blame but ourselves.
73, Bill W4ZV
P.S. If any of you have problems with the FCC site, E-mail me
directly and I'll be happy to help."
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 12 11:50:05 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
Message-ID: <017301c229bb$cc4c97b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Hello everyone. I am going crazy here. I have looked and double-looked at
posts about submitting early-bird logs for the WRTC/IARU, and at the WRTC
web site, and nowhere can I find an email address to send the early-bird log
to. I am assuming it is different from where you submit your official
contest entries and also from the WRTC submission address, since the
instructions say:
"The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU
2002 contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002
contest committee...."
Can someone straighten me out? Thanks.
Mark, N5OT
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 12 18:42:11 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020712164211.011c9394@pop.vnet.net>
N5OT wrote:
>nowhere can I find an email address to send the early-bird log to.
http://www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm
Logs:
Only e-mail logs (ASCII) are accepted.
The preferred log formats are Cabrillo, CT.ALL and TR.DAT.
The "Early Bird" logs should be submitted by 18.00 UTC on Sunday, July 14,
2002. Regular latest submission date is July 31, 2002.
All logs should be sent via e-mail to: logs@wrtc2002.org
NOTE: The subject field of the e-mail should contain your contest callsign,
e.g. " Subject: WRTC2002 OH2AAA"
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n2mg at eham.net Fri Jul 12 16:03:26 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
Message-ID: <200207121803.g6CI3P5r019617@contesting.com>
I've been looking at the same thing and if I understand it right...
It seems the confusion stems from that fact that participating in the
WRTC as a non-WRTCer (for, say, the worked all WRTC) and participating
in IARU are really two different things. Concurrent but not equivalent?
For WRTC-related prizes one needs to submit by 31-Jul (or by 18.00 UTC
on Sunday, July 14, 2002 for EARLY BIRD)
and for the above, email to: logs@wrtc2002.org
For IARU itself,
http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2002/rules-iaru.html
> > 10.1. Entries must be postmarked or emailed no later than 30 days
> > after the end of the contest (August 13, 2002). No late entries can
> > be accepted. Entries that are received after mid-October 2002, even
> > if mailed in time, may not be received in time to be included in
> > the official results.
And here's another address:
> > 10.2.5. Entries sent as attachments to email must be sent to
IARUHF@iaru.org.
Same logs....two email addresses...
Right?
73 Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by Mark Beckwith <swca@swbell.net> on Fri, 12
Jul 2002 10:50:05 -0500.
> Hello everyone. I am going crazy here. I have looked and double-looked at
> posts about submitting early-bird logs for the WRTC/IARU, and at the WRTC
> web site, and nowhere can I find an email address to send the early-bird log
> to. I am assuming it is different from where you submit your official
> contest entries and also from the WRTC submission address, since the
> instructions say:
>
> "The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU
> 2002 contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002
> contest committee...."
>
> Can someone straighten me out? Thanks.
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
>From ua3ap at mail.ru Fri Jul 12 23:31:31 2002
From: ua3ap@mail.ru (Sergei Kulyov)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 - Special OJ Callsigns, A Reminder
In-Reply-To: <01c22672$1d855600$abc5f83e@default>
Message-ID: <E17T5CV-000Evg-00@f13.mail.ru>
Hello to everybody. The latest news from the WRTC2002 tell about 54 stations on
the air. The Excell spreadsheet gives only 52.
What are two extra calls?
Thanks and GL in WRTC2002!
73, Sergei - UA3AP
-----Original Message-----
From: "Ari Korhonen" <ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi>
To: <wrtc2002@ne.nal.go.jp>, "Editors"
<editors@n4gn.com>,<cq-contest@contesting.com>, "CCF" <ccf@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 - Special OJ Callsigns, A Reminder
>
>
> Worked All WRTC2002 - "Worked All New OJ prefixes"
>
> Get your log in immediately after the contest and Win Valuable "Early
> Bird" prizes - WRTC2002 special incentive for 6-hour log-in!
>
> OJ1- OJ8 prefixes activated for the 1st time!
>
> The WRTC2002 teams will be using special 2x1 type of callsigns with special
OJ1-OJ8 prefixes (e.g. OJ1M). The OJ1-OJ8 prefixes are activated for the first
time in history to honour WRTC2002 - the Olympics of Amateur Radio contesting
in Finland.
>
> The list of OJ callsigns is as follows:
> OJ1C OJ1F OJ1M OJ1N OJ1S OJ1W OJ1X
> OJ2F OJ2H OJ2J OJ2Q OJ2V OJ2Y OJ2Z
> OJ3A OJ3D OJ3N OJ3R OJ3T OJ3X
> OJ4A OJ4M OJ4N OJ4S OJ4W
> OJ5A OJ5E OJ5M OJ5T OJ5U OJ5W OJ5Z
> OJ6C OJ6E OJ6K OJ6N OJ6W OJ6X OJ6Y
> OJ7A OJ7C OJ7M OJ7N OJ7S OJ7W OJ7X
> OJ8A OJ8E OJ8K OJ8L OJ8N OJ8W
>
> You can download an Excel -checklist for the contest from:
> http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/ojcalls.xls
>
>
> Worked All WRTC2002 - Rules for non-WRTC2002 stations
>
> * The same WRTC2002 station can be worked once on CW and once on SSB on
> each band.
> * Each correct two-way CW or SSB QSO with a WRTC2002 station counts 1
> point. A duplicate QSO on same band and mode counts 0 points.
> * Score = total sum of QSO points
> Logs:
> Only e-mail logs (ASCII) are accepted.
> The preferred log formats are Cabrillo, CT.ALL and TR.DAT.
> The "Early Bird" logs should be submitted by 18.00 UTC on Sunday, July 14,
> 2002. Regular latest submission date is July 31, 2002.
> All logs should be sent via e-mail to: logs@wrtc2002.org
> NOTE: The subject field of the e-mail should contain your contest callsign,
> e.g. " Subject: WRTC2002 OH2AAA"
>
> Request for stations working the IARU 2002 contest
> The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU 2002
contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002 contest
committee to be used as reference data within the official WRTC2002
log-checking procedure. The committee guarantees that these logs will be used
only for cross checking purposes of the WRTC2002 team championship.
>
> NOTE: All e-mail logs submitted within 6 hours after the contest ends will
participate in a lottery with special WRTC2002 prizes.
>
> Awards & Categories
> The following "Worked All WRTC2002" awards will be issued based on the above
contest rules:
> "Worked All WRTC2002" awards
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op CW
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op SSB
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op Mixed
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op CW
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op SSB
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op Mixed
> Worked all WRTC2002 - IARU HQ stations
>
> Awards will be given to the stations with highest number of points in the
following
> categories:
> 1st 2nd 3rd
> World
> Europe
> North America
> South America
> Asia
> Africa
> Oceania
> HQ Stations
> OH - Finland
> Special Plaques
> Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - CW
> Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - SSB
> Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - Mixed
>
> Other Prizes
> T-shirts (DX) Worked 130 WRTC2002 qsos
> T-shirts (EU) Worked 200 WRTC2002 qsos
>
>
> WRTC2002 ORGANIZING COMMITTEE (via OH1EH)
>
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>From wd4ahz at gte.net Fri Jul 12 15:51:11 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
References: <200207121803.g6CI3P5r019617@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <3D2F251F.911F8F2@gte.net>
"Mike Gilmer, N2MG" wrote:
> It seems the confusion stems from that fact that participating in the
> WRTC as a non-WRTCer (for, say, the worked all WRTC) and participating
> in IARU are really two different things. Concurrent but not
> equivalent?
The "early-bird" logs sent to logs@wrtc2002.org are used to check the
WRTC competitors logs (and for WRTC prizes/awards)
The logs sent to IARUHF@iaru.org
is the "official" log submission address (like always) where they are
checked and eventually published in QST.
> Same logs....two email addresses...
If you want to submit your log for WRTC log-checking and the WRTC
prizes/awards ... Yes.
If you don't, then to IARUHF@iaru.org only.
Ron
>From n2mg at eham.net Fri Jul 12 17:00:58 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 - Special OJ Callsigns, A Reminder
Message-ID: <200207121900.g6CJ0v5r020335@contesting.com>
N0AX mentioned "54 nearly identical stations" - perhaps either a
mistake, or there are 2 spares.
52 is the right number - it's consistent with the list of calls on the
site, the team/referee page and the spreadsheet.
Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by "Sergei Kulyov" <ua3ap@mail.ru> on Fri, 12
Jul 2002 22:31:31 +0400.
> Hello to everybody. The latest news from the WRTC2002 tell about 54 stations
> on
> the air. The Excell spreadsheet gives only 52.
> What are two extra calls?
>
> Thanks and GL in WRTC2002!
>
>From ah3c at frii.com Fri Jul 12 14:57:27 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AH3C EMERGENCY !!!
References: <01c22672$1d855600$abc5f83e@default>
Message-ID: <005101c229de$5aaf1f60$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Please get a hold of Peter H Grillo( AH3C) at the WRTC 2002 and advise him
to call his daughter Liz at (916)734-2994 Pediatric ICU Room #5. His
grandson Josh had an emergency appendectimy...three days after his
appendics burts. It is touch and go.
Tks, Ah3c xyl, Judy
>From n2nl at yahoo.com Fri Jul 12 14:16:38 2002
From: n2nl@yahoo.com (David Mueller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WRTC2002 0726] AH3C EMERGENCY !!!
In-Reply-To: <005101c229de$5aaf1f60$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <20020712201638.6465.qmail@web21405.mail.yahoo.com>
Pete has been notified.....
73, Dave OH\N2NL
--- AH3C <ah3c@frii.com> wrote:
> Please get a hold of Peter H Grillo( AH3C) at the
> WRTC 2002 and advise him
> to call his daughter Liz at (916)734-2994 Pediatric
> ICU Room #5. His
> grandson Josh had an emergency appendectimy...three
> days after his
> appendics burts. It is touch and go.
> Tks, Ah3c xyl, Judy
>
>
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>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Sat Jul 13 01:38:37 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
Message-ID: <20020712213837.HVSX20539.fep06-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.110]>
IARU contest itself and WRTC2002 are two different things.
If you want to send your log for IARU contest, use IARUHF@iaru.org.
For WRTC2002 Early Bird prizes + log checking email is:
logs@wrtc2002.org . We will use these logs for checking the WRTC2002
competitors logs only and they will not be forwarded to ARRL.
73 Timo OH1NOA/2
WRTC2002 HQ, Espoo
PS: If you want to know which team has which referee/host, check now our web
site http://www.wrtc2002.org > Online news.
>
> L?hett?j?: "Mike Gilmer, N2MG"<n2mg@eham.net>
> P?iv?ys: 2002/07/12 pe PM 09:03:26 GMT+03:00
> Vastaanottaja: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Kopio: Mark Beckwith <swca@swbell.net>
> Aihe: Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
>
> I've been looking at the same thing and if I understand it right...
>
> It seems the confusion stems from that fact that participating in the
> WRTC as a non-WRTCer (for, say, the worked all WRTC) and participating
> in IARU are really two different things. Concurrent but not equivalent?
>
> For WRTC-related prizes one needs to submit by 31-Jul (or by 18.00 UTC
> on Sunday, July 14, 2002 for EARLY BIRD)
>
> and for the above, email to: logs@wrtc2002.org
>
>
> For IARU itself,
>
> http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2002/rules-iaru.html
>
> > > 10.1. Entries must be postmarked or emailed no later than 30 days
> > > after the end of the contest (August 13, 2002). No late entries can
> > > be accepted. Entries that are received after mid-October 2002, even
> > > if mailed in time, may not be received in time to be included in
> > > the official results.
>
> And here's another address:
>
> > > 10.2.5. Entries sent as attachments to email must be sent to
> IARUHF@iaru.org.
>
> Same logs....two email addresses...
>
> Right?
>
> 73 Mike N2MG
>
>
> The following message was sent by Mark Beckwith <swca@swbell.net> on Fri, 12
> Jul 2002 10:50:05 -0500.
>
> > Hello everyone. I am going crazy here. I have looked and double-looked at
> > posts about submitting early-bird logs for the WRTC/IARU, and at the WRTC
> > web site, and nowhere can I find an email address to send the early-bird log
> > to. I am assuming it is different from where you submit your official
> > contest entries and also from the WRTC submission address, since the
> > instructions say:
> >
> > "The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU
> > 2002 contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002
> > contest committee...."
> >
> > Can someone straighten me out? Thanks.
> >
> > Mark, N5OT
> >
>
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>From ww3s at zoominternet.net Fri Jul 12 18:43:53 2002
From: ww3s@zoominternet.net (Jamie WW3S)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 160m during IARU?
Message-ID: <00b301c229ed$37d09640$6501a8c0@zoominternet.net>
Is there much activity on topband during IARU? Trying to determine if its
worth the effort to get the inv l back up for what may only be a few
mults.....
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 12 18:11:42 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Thanks...?
Message-ID: <01e001c229f1$1de15900$0100a8c0@TL01>
All who responded are assuming that Early-Bird entries go to the same place
as regular entries. Every response quoted the rules, which I quoted in my
original email as well.
IMO this is not clear, since IMO the rules only tell you where to send your
actual regular entries, and clearly state that, *in addition to this,* you
"also" send your log within 6 hours "to the...contest committee," but, IMO,
give no address for the contest committee, unless it coincidentally happens
to *also* be the regular log submission address. That's an assumption.
Whatever. I don't need to debate the fine points of rules clarity. I'll
just send mine where everyone else is sending theirs.
Thanks for clearing that up...?! See you on the air.
Mark, N5OT
>From mjwetzel at comcast.net Fri Jul 12 18:49:28 2002
From: mjwetzel@comcast.net (Mike Wetzel)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 160m during IARU?
In-Reply-To: <00b301c229ed$37d09640$6501a8c0@zoominternet.net>
Message-ID: <NCBBIPEKMKEIENBFHFHJKEHGFEAA.mjwetzel@comcast.net>
Jamie,
Yes, there will probably be only a few mults but that's a few more than none
on 160!
I assume people will try on the hour!
Mike W9RE
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Jamie WW3S
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 4:44 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] 160m during IARU?
>
>
> Is there much activity on topband during IARU? Trying to determine if its
> worth the effort to get the inv l back up for what may only be a few
> mults.....
>
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>From harry at oh6yf.com Sat Jul 13 05:39:48 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New WRTC Photos now online!
References: <4.2.0.58.20020709212132.009bc940@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000a01c22a0e$2d1c3fd0$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hi all!
My new WRTC photos are now online at
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
73 de Harry OH6YF
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
>From dennis.mcalpine at verizon.net Fri Jul 12 22:59:14 2002
From: dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net (Dennis McAlpine)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
Message-ID: <000001c22a11$87cf0fe0$b69ffea9@oemcomputer>
My friend N2UN, who lives in an antenna deprived part of NYC, has successfully
managed to put up an R-7000 vertical antenna at his office. He is talking to a
Kachina at his office from his apartment via the phone lines and using some
x-10 devices to turn the power on and off.
Now like any good contester, Tony is trying how to use this remotely activated
station in a contest. His question is how do you use the Kachina operating
software at thesame time as a contest logging program, e.g. WriteLog, CT, NA,
etc. Has anyone had any experience with this probem and how did you do it?
Thanks for the help. It mayget another station on the air for us all to work.
73,
Dennis, K2SX
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>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Sat Jul 13 10:24:36 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 and "early bird" logs
Message-ID: <01c22a35$f5c8b540$LocalHost@default>
The IARU World HF Championship is right around the corner, within which
WRTC2002 is run (13-14th July).
Just a quick reminder to everyone that the WRTC2002 organizing committee
would like as many participants as possible to e-mail their contest logs
by 1800 UTC on July 14. These "early bird" logs will be used only for
log checking purposes related to the WRTC2002 teams.
Please use the following email address: logs@wrtc2002.org
There are incentives for doing this, please visit
www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm for the details.
Ari, OH1EH
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sat Jul 13 12:15:15 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The day of opening ceremonies and WRTC2002 Dinner
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020713101515.01209830@pop.vnet.net>
Ward, N0AX reports:
On the Bus with WRTC - #2 - 11 July 2002
Yesterday was a fun day - introductions, bus rides, cold beer (there's a
heat wave in Finland this week), and great food.
Now we are seeing the serious side of the competition.
Starting after dinner on Wednesday, both the competitors and referees had
the first of a series of meetings to review the
rules of the game. All of the competitors want to make the most of every
technique available to them, but none want to
be disqualified or appear dishonest. Similarly, the referees want to know
exactly how to interpret the rules and what to
do in case of a perceived infraction.
There are a LOT of detailed, knowledgable questions from both. For example,
the question arose, "In the 10-minute
QRT period before the contest, can the competitors be listening to the
bands?" (The rules are posted on the WRTC
Web site, www.wrtc2002.org.) This might seem a small thing, but it would
allow the team to prepare a "band map" of
multipliers (ITU zones or HQ stations). They could then start the contest
with enough knowledge to put several
multipliers in the log that may not be available later. All teams should be
allowed to listen during the QRT period or all
should be equally forbidden to do so. It was decided that listening was
forbidden until the starting bell rings at 1200Z.
The participants are seasoned contesters - both those operating the
stations and those charged with monitoring rule
enforcement. These people are clever and motivated to do their best. It is
in the interest of the sport to have clear rules
and fair enforcement, so a lot of time is spent in the days before the
contest judging these unobvious cases. In a
"spinoff" effect, the questions being raised and answered at WRTC can also
be applied in many cases to regular
contesting. By having the top competitors meet at one place, as with WRTC,
the exchange of views and decisions can
happen in minutes, instead of across contest seasons.
A new feature of WRTC that has raised some interesting issues this year is
the Real-Time Scoreboard. (check the
WRTC2002 Web site for details) For the first time, the competitor's claimed
scores will be available to the general
public (and contest participants) world-wide DURING THE CONTEST via a Web
page. The referees are charged with
using the Finnish GSM mobile phone system to send a short text message once
an hour with the team score. The SMS
(Short Messaging Service) is used to transmit the information, which is
delivered automatically to a computer. The
score is then retrieved from the message and added to the on-line data
base, where it is posted as a large bar chart for
viewing. It will be updated on the Web every 30 seconds, with most score
changes occuring within a few minutes of the
top of the hour.
This is truly groundbreaking! The first tiny steps toward real-time
visibility of a contest are taking place. This will
expose many more amateurs to the dynamics of contesting, as well as members
of the general public that may take an
interest in this strange Radiosport business.
Real-time score availability does have the ability to affect the way the
contest happens, of course. Radiosport is unique
in that members of the amateur radio public are expected, indeed required,
to participate in order for the contest to be a
success. It's as if a golf tournament gallery were required to catch the
ball and throw it back onto the fairway a few feet.
While improved visibility is definitely a good thing, there are also
potential negative consequences. For example, if one
team is lagging and their countrymen are able to identify them by their
voices or other nuances of their operation, they
might be motivated to "help out" by encouraging other local hams to get on
and contact that team. There are other
similar concerns. The organizing committee evaluated these concerns and
decided that the potential for negative
effects was greatly outweighed by the positive benefits visibility would
bring. In addition, it was felt that there were
factors that would affect the competition much more strongly--weather,
propagation, and general operator skill.
Therefore, the real-time scoreboard remains. Be sure to check it out!
Did I mention weather in that last sentence? Finns are feeling
uncomfortable this week because daily high temperatures
are hitting nearly 30 degrees, even up-country in the lake district of
Himos and Jamsa where we are before heading to
our host's stations. This is uncommonly hot for Finland, also known as
Suomi. While it makes for some sweaty brows
on people from cool climates, I don't think it is bothering the Texans,
Italians, South Africans, or Argentines. Yet, we
have some thunderstorms moving through the area tonight and tomorrow and
then for the contest weekend, things
should be a bit cooler and clearer.
The Opening Ceremony was quite the show, under a very large Big Tent over
more than 50 meters in diameter. All of
the competitors filed inside as for the Olympics, grouped by countries and
wearing their WRTC shirts. The teams
completely encircled the audience, serenaded by a fine jazz group. "The
Saints Come Marching In" started off the
parade, believe it or not, earning a laugh from the crowd that rapidly
turned to applause as their favorites appeared.
Tonight we have the more formal WRTC Opening Dinner with a speech from the
Contest Club of Finland's (CCF)
president and other dignitaries and members of the previous WRTC
committees. The brainchild of Danny Eskenazi
K7SS has certainly grown up to stand on its own two feet at the ripe old
age of 12.
I expect the late night schmoozing and conversations to QRT a little early
tonight (although the sky might still be
bright) for all of the operators and those who will supervise them to get
caught up on sleep and dispell the final
smidgens of jet lag. Tomorrow brings one final set of meetings and then on
to the host stations! The WRTC2002 has
done a marvelous job in setting up 54 nearly identical stations, all
checked out and ready for operation. But who could
rest easy, having come all this way, with so much on the line?
The clock is ticking in Finland...Kiipis! (Cheers!)
73, Ward N0AX/OH
PS - Don't forget to send in a log within 6 hours of the contest to
participate in the WRTC-sponsored raffle. There are
also special prizes for working as many of the OJ competitor callsigns as
possible. Check www.wrtc2002.org for details.
>From nn4t at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 13 09:12:55 2002
From: nn4t@bellsouth.net (Steve Daniel)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ft1000mp and computer interface
Message-ID: <016001c22a6f$0170c7a0$c273d6d1@nn4t>
I can't seem to get my 1000mp to communicate with the computer. I recall
reading that something in the radio needed to be altered from the factory
default so that band info, etc., can be transferred from the radio to
WriteLog, NA, etc. Anyone happen to know if this is correct? Thanks! Steve,
NN4T.
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sat Jul 13 14:25:43 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Realtime scores
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020713122543.0120dc04@pop.vnet.net>
Wow! Is this cool or what! PP5JR/PY1KN off to a huge lead
after the first hour...almost so huge I wonder if there was
a mistake!
http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/tilanne.pl?hpng=WRTC
73, Bill W4ZV
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sat Jul 13 14:53:09 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] On the Bus with WRTC - #3 - 12 July 2002
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020713125309.011d4a9c@pop.vnet.net>
Ward, N0AX reports:
Well, here I am back on the bus to Helsinki after a fast-paced couple of
days at the Himos resort with all the other
WRTC participants. We are a little bit tired--some are dozing against the
windows--but I think that mostly we are all
anxious to get to our host's stations and get started. The contest is now
about 24 hours away.
I am a referee for the team of UA2FZ and RW3WR who will be operating from
the home of OH2BAH, about 50 km
northwest of Helsinki. I have never met any of those gentlemen before.
Except for many contest QSOs, of course. The
plan is for all of us to meet back at the hotel, drive to the host station,
set up and then return to Helsinki. We will then
return the next morning and complete the preparations.
All of the WRTC stations have the same antennas--a triband beam for 20-10
meters with 2 elements on each band and
a Windom antenna for 40-80. The organizers have done a great job of getting
52 similar operating sites ready. They
have installed antennas in addition to whatever the host may have already.
Some of the hosts have substantial
stations--just as in previous WRTC's--but we will be unable to take
advantage of the "Big Aluminum".
This is one of the interesting elements of the competition. Most of the
competitors have done the bulk of their
operating at top of the line stations or from rare QTH's. Now they get to
operate with most of the hardware- or
callsign-related advantages removed.
How many will remember what it is like to operate with 100 watts and low
antennas? We will see on Sunday night.
There has been a lot of discussion about the propagation we can expect and
whether the "home field advantage" will
tip the scales in favor of the Russian or Finnish teams. So far, solar
conditions look good, but the lack of deep darkness
makes the low bands a big question to most teams.
This may be an advantage for regional competitors. Since my team is from
UA2 (between ES and SP) and Moscow, I
will be watching with great interest to see if they can take advantage of
their experience. By the way, along with the
WRTC participants, Himos is also home to the SRAL Summer Camp, which is
roughly equivalent to an extended
hamfest where hams come and camp out for many days. Between the hotel and
lake there are rows of campers and
trailers, with wire antennas or verticals extending up and out into the trees.
Every cabin is either full of our WRTC group or with OH hams for the Summer
Camp. Several have trailers loaded
with the same cross section of interesting equipment and--would you believe
it--junk we find at US hamfests. I suspect
as we are leaving on Friday, our places are rapidly filling with Summer
Camp inhabitants. Let me describe Himos a little
bit. North of Helsinki, the flat landscape begins to roll a little bit and
then breaks into hills of a few hundred meters.
Lakes are everywhere and Himos is between a couple of the larger hills on
the shore of a large lake. If you are looking
for Himos on a map, it may be difficult to find. Try looking for Jamsa,
about 200 km directly north of Helsinki.
Himos is about 10 km northeast of Jamsa. The resort accomodates a few
hundred in cabins, tents, and mobiles. The
forest and grass are deep green and not dried out in mid-summer at all. The
lake water is clean and moderately cool,
ideal for swimming and there are nearly always one or two Finns taking a
dip. You can also see some sauna inhabitants
strolling outside to the water, cooling off, and returning to the heat.
Some fish, some stroll, and in our case, some enjoy
each other's company. The final activity this morning, before lunch and
breaking camp, was the selection of team
callsigns and the introduction of the referees and hosts to the teams. This
is always the most dramatic moment before
the contest as the referees receive a sealed envelope containing the
special callsign, not to be opened until 10 minutes
before the contest begins. Each team captain was called to the front of the
watching audience.
He selected an envelope from a long line laid out at the feet of the chief
referee, Roger Western G3SXW. The referee
and host for the team were then announced and all three met for the first
time in front of all of us. At the conclusion of
52 separate envelope selections, the competition is set. Everyone knows the
who and where and when. My next
installment will come after the contest is all over. I will be monitoring
each QSO of my team--all 24 hours worth. No
sleeping for the referee! We will meet back at the hotel and start the
delicate process of executing "Howdjadoo?" See
you then! Kiipis!
Harry, OH6YF has now more photos from SRAL Summercamp, check
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com/
>From nn4t at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 13 10:29:41 2002
From: nn4t@bellsouth.net (Steve Daniel)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: ft1000mp and computer interface
Message-ID: <018c01c22a79$babc30a0$c273d6d1@nn4t>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Daniel" <nn4t@bellsouth.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 8:12 AM
Subject: ft1000mp and computer interface
> I can't seem to get my 1000mp to communicate with the computer. I recall
> reading that something in the radio needed to be altered from the factory
> default so that band info, etc., can be transferred from the radio to
> WriteLog, NA, etc. Anyone happen to know if this is correct? Thanks!
Steve,
> NN4T.
>
>From sm2ekm at telia.com Sat Jul 13 19:20:02 2002
From: sm2ekm@telia.com (Jan Erik Holm)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Realtime scores
References: <1.5.4.32.20020713122543.0120dc04@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <3D305332.3050204@telia.com>
Yes this is super neat! Too bad these guys are so close
to me cuz they are very hard to work on the high bands,
100W and tribander at 50ft doesn?t create any backscatter
signal to brag about, maybe I can work some on 80/40
tonight.
73 SM2EKM
PS: PP5JR/PY1KN is all academic now, now the old super
op?s are in the lead.
-------------------------------------------------------
Bill Tippett wrote:
>Wow! Is this cool or what! PP5JR/PY1KN off to a huge lead
>after the first hour...almost so huge I wonder if there was
>a mistake!
>
>http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/tilanne.pl?hpng=WRTC
>
>73, Bill W4ZV
>
>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Sat Jul 13 17:22:41 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Realtime scoreboard - A Reminder
Message-ID: <01c22a70$5df2eb60$LocalHost@default>
Hi guys,
Just a reminder
Look for advanced web based scoreboard live at:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/realtime.htm
(available 12:00 UTC 13.7.02 - 12:00 UTC 14.7.02).
Ari, OH1EH
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Sat Jul 13 21:19:18 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] are you guys following this on the web!
Message-ID: <000e01c22acc$18829060$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
At the half way point the competition for the top seeds seems to continue to
contain the same three teams....
At 0000Z DL2CC and DL6FBL are one half a percent ahead of N5TJ and K1TO with
RA3AUU and RV1AW in third...
TVI/RFI forced me to QRT and go home so I have been following the web
coverage of the event....
These three teams have pretty much been together in the top three for most
of the contest so far...
The long in the tooth team of N6TJ and N6AA is hanging in there with the
"kids" at 5th currently....
Lots to look at - undoubtedly some beautiful graphs will come out of this
information...very very cool.....
If you haven't gone there yet - go to:
http://wrtc.jouni.net/WRTC/
the bar graph is awesome - not how many of these stations are so closely
grouped together!
EXCELLENT WORK FINNS!
73,
Jim, K4OJ (OJ on the end)
>From w9wi at w9wi.com Sat Jul 13 21:53:10 2002
From: w9wi@w9wi.com (Doug Smith W9WI)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Unsportsmanlike Conduct
Message-ID: <20020713205310.A4767@w9wi.com>
I'm sure most of us have encountered something we'd call cheating as we
contest. What I observed this evening was the most blatant example I've
ever experienced.
0059z on 14077.3. I'm CQing, running Europeans and W's.
LZ7H calls, about S2. I send him "5NN 8". He gets out "R 5N..", then..
"CQ TEST LZ7T LZ7T LZ7T LZ7T..." (I didn't count how many times he signed
but it was at least five) S8-S9.
I send "LZ7T QRX LZ7H NR ?". And LZ7T jams him again.
After three tries I finally hear LZ7H well enough to verify he's sending the
same zone the computer is suggesting. I log the QSO and send "TU W9WI
TEST".
And never hear from LZ7T again. (i.e., he was jamming LZ7H, not me)
If I were LZ7H I would have probably would have QSYd to 11 meters where
people are better-behaved. Unfortunately I have no quick way of recording
signals during a contest, or a recording would already be on the way to
Newington.
I'm curious, did anyone else who worked LZ7H notice similar behavior?
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com
>From w2up at mindspring.com Sun Jul 14 14:28:39 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
Message-ID: <3D317C87.22504.47D9C0C@localhost>
I sent my log to logs@wrtc2002.org, but didn't get any kind of
confirmation. Should I have?
Barry--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From k7qq at netzero.net Sun Jul 14 15:47:17 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
References: <3D317C87.22504.47D9C0C@localhost>
Message-ID: <00a001c22b45$5bc26700$35252a42@k7qq>
Quacks's
I don't think they are send confirmations, I sent my logs with about 5 hrs.
to go. Maybe I'll get a REAL early bird award. It was my Bed time.
I didn't get a confirm from them!!!!
Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 13:28
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
> I sent my log to logs@wrtc2002.org, but didn't get any kind of
> confirmation. Should I have?
> Barry--
> Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>
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>From aluscre at neo.rr.com Sun Jul 14 12:16:43 2002
From: aluscre@neo.rr.com (aluscre)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC- OJ Calls/Teams List
Message-ID: <200207141516.g6EFG5r19956@clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com>
I might be missing something but has the list matching the teams with
the teams posted yet?
I saw the scores but assumed OJ calls list would appear immediately
following end of contest..
--
|--------------------------|
Anthony A. Luscre
K8ZT
Stow, Ohio
|--------------------------|
Visit My Website at
http://www.qsl.net/k8zt
|--------------------------|
>From n2mg at eham.net Sun Jul 14 12:45:04 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [TRLog] IARU LOG Bounced
References: <4.1.20020714101437.00993980@pop.southwind.net>
Message-ID: <002201c22b66$97590f50$24749541@delllaptopmfg>
I don't think there's anything for the league to fix. They (always?) list
the results (and issue awards?) based on ARRL section. I think the line
ARRL-SECTION: <YOURSECTIONHERE>
needs to be entered into the Cabrillo file. Even if the contest makes no
use of it (as in the ARRL 10M), the ARRL uses the section for the results.
73 Mike N2MG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lappin - W?UY" <lappint@southwind.net>
To: <trlog@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 8:18 AM
Subject: [TRLog] IARU LOG Bounced
> ARRL ROBOT bounced my Cabrillo log. The message said "no valid ARRL
> section specified". I assume they'll fix that. Any one else experience
> the problem? Also got the too many multipliers enables during POST. I
too
> skipped the process.
>
>
>
> 73
> Tom
> W?UY
>
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>From ve5sf at sk.sympatico.ca Sun Jul 14 11:00:10 2002
From: ve5sf@sk.sympatico.ca (Sam Ferris)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC early logs .... OOOPS
Message-ID: <003901c22b4f$88a0b740$f7dea58e@samugmtpxl8tq0>
Hope somebody is watching this list over there in OH land. Sent in my early
log but found that the old CT 9.64 version only put the CW contacts in the
cabrillo log for some reason. Have sent a revised log already using a later
version (9.70), but wonder if they were prepared for botched logs and revisions
....
Sam
VE5SF
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>From ka0vxk at arrl.net Sun Jul 14 12:05:46 2002
From: ka0vxk@arrl.net (Bill Duffy)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Query
Message-ID: <000b01c22b50$50e295c0$1e01a8c0@omhaw1.ne.home.com>
Greetings All:
This was my first IARU contest. Very enjoyable.
I have a scoring question.
When I QSO'd with different HQ stations, I entered 59xxx(appropriate rpt) in
my log. Sometimes the section also came up automatically. Is it permissable
to go back and put the section #'s in that did not show up because of the
59xxx report? Or do I interpret the rules correctly in that HQ stations only
count as one point?
I realize this is a VERY BASIC question and will appreciate any answers.
Tnx es 73
Bill KA0VXK
ps : If you're cranky from being up 24 plus hours, don't answer for a couple
of days. hi hi CUL
>From n2mg at eham.net Sun Jul 14 13:05:25 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC- OJ Calls/Teams List
References: <200207141516.g6EFG5r19956@clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com>
Message-ID: <004d01c22b69$69f77260$24749541@delllaptopmfg>
I'd hope they'd wait until after the early-bird logs are submitted (and
scores processed) to - prevent mischief!
Mike N2MG
----- Original Message -----
From: "aluscre" <aluscre@neo.rr.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 8:16 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC- OJ Calls/Teams List
> I might be missing something but has the list matching the teams with
> the teams posted yet?
> I saw the scores but assumed OJ calls list would appear immediately
> following end of contest..
>
> --
> |--------------------------|
> Anthony A. Luscre
> K8ZT
> Stow, Ohio
> |--------------------------|
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> http://www.qsl.net/k8zt
> |--------------------------|
>
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>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Sun Jul 14 22:57:16 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
Message-ID: <20020714185716.MTVO20539.fep06-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.109]>
There will be no confirmation.
Too big job to do manually in the middle of log checking process.
Thanks for those 900+ "early bird" logs !
73 Timo OH1NOA
>
> L?hett?j?: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
> P?iv?ys: 2002/07/14 su PM 05:47:17 GMT+03:00
> Vastaanottaja: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Aihe: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
>
> Quacks's
> I don't think they are send confirmations, I sent my logs with about 5 hrs.
> to go. Maybe I'll get a REAL early bird award. It was my Bed time.
> I didn't get a confirm from them!!!!
> Rex
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 13:28
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
>
>
> > I sent my log to logs@wrtc2002.org, but didn't get any kind of
> > confirmation. Should I have?
> > Barry--
> > Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> > Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
> >
> >
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sun Jul 14 20:49:15 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020714184915.011daf38@pop.vnet.net>
Hold on pardners! The WRTC website is now showing N5TJ/K1TO #1,
DL2CC/DL6FBL #2, and N6TJ/N6AA # 15 at 1.411 Meg (down from 1.747 Meg
originally)! There may have been some problem with the realtime N6TJ/N6AA
log which which was corrected when the teams made their final submission
after briefly reviewing their logs. If true, #1 and #2 positions are only
0.2% apart (6140 points) and a very close finish will come down to
log-checking. DL2CC/DL6FBL's score was also adjusted down exactly 1000
points which dropped them below N5TJ/K1TO (they were ahead in the initial
results). If this is all correct, we won't know who really won until the
awards ceremony tomorrow!
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n2mg at eham.net Sun Jul 14 17:00:41 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC scores
Message-ID: <001301c22b8a$481608c0$398c9541@delllaptopmfg>
I don't think these are final, but there has been some major shuffling of
the results on:
http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/tilanne.pl?hpng=WRTC
1. N5TJ/K1TO (were 3rd)
2. DL2CC/DL6FBL (were 2nd)
3. RA3AUU/RV1AW (were 4th)
with the N6TJ/N6AA team (previously in first place) being dropped to 15th
place. Quite the change from the initial results (which I screen-captured
for posterity)
-Mike N2MG
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sun Jul 14 21:05:20 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020714190520.011fe79c@pop.vnet.net>
The detailed breakdown for N6TJ/N6AA shows the following
sequence, only the last of which is posted, even though it is an
earlier time. May be some problem with the posting process since
the progression from earlier would indicate the 1.7M score is in
the right ballpark (remember OH time is UTC + 3):
OH time Score
13:00:26 1570162
14:01:10 1658232
15:26:21 1747340
15:20:00 1411344
At this point, nobody knows what this means but the OH guys!
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n4zr at contesting.com Sun Jul 14 17:28:12 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020714190520.011fe79c@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020714162452.051f87c0@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 08:05 PM 7/14/02 +0100, Bill Tippett wrote:
> The detailed breakdown for N6TJ/N6AA shows the following
>sequence, only the last of which is posted, even though it is an
>earlier time. May be some problem with the posting process since
>the progression from earlier would indicate the 1.7M score is in
>the right ballpark (remember OH time is UTC + 3):
>
>OH time Score
>13:00:26 1570162
>14:01:10 1658232
>15:26:21 1747340
>15:20:00 1411344
>
> At this point, nobody knows what this means but the OH guys!
With an hour to go, some back-markers suddenly vaulted into first place,
temporarily. Clearly there were some glitches, but the OH guys deserve our
applause for their ground-breaking efforts regardless.
Guess I can dig out my Grey Power tee-shirt, but should stop short of
putting it on until tomorrow (maybe).
73, Pete N4ZR
(61 and proud of it, now...)
>From W1RM at attbi.com Sun Jul 14 17:44:55 2002
From: W1RM@attbi.com (Peter Chamalian)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [YCCC] WRTC scores
In-Reply-To: <001301c22b8a$481608c0$398c9541@delllaptopmfg>
Message-ID: <000201c22b77$4fa65a80$6401a8c0@attbi.com>
Yogi was right! It ain't over 'til it's over.
Pete, W1RM
-----Original Message-----
From: yccc-admin@yccc.org [mailto:yccc-admin@yccc.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Gilmer
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 7:01 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com; yccc@yccc.org
Subject: [YCCC] WRTC scores
I don't think these are final, but there has been some major shuffling
of
the results on:
http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/tilanne.pl?hpng=WRTC
1. N5TJ/K1TO (were 3rd)
2. DL2CC/DL6FBL (were 2nd)
3. RA3AUU/RV1AW (were 4th)
with the N6TJ/N6AA team (previously in first place) being dropped to
15th
place. Quite the change from the initial results (which I
screen-captured
for posterity)
-Mike N2MG
_______________________________________________
YCCC Reflector
yccc@yccc.org
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/yccc
>From TOMK5RC at aol.com Sun Jul 14 18:26:12 2002
From: TOMK5RC@aol.com (TOMK5RC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
Message-ID: <105.189decb6.2a634674@aol.com>
I just notice the same thing. All of the scores have changed from the earlier
posting. Must be claimed versus checked.
Tom Taormina, K5RC
aka NV7A
Virginia City NV
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sun Jul 14 22:28:17 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] On the Bus with WRTC - #4 - 14 July 2002
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020714202817.011e0bcc@pop.vnet.net>
It's all over now! The IARU HF Championship is over as of a couple hours
ago and the team and I are packing our things and loading them into
OH2BAH's car for the short ride back to Helsinki and the gathering gang
at the Radisson hotel. And what a contest it was.
As we pulled into OH2BAH's QTH, we were thrilled to see several large
towers and most amazing of all, a homemade 10-meter diameter dish for
EME work. John has a couple of acres at his summer home on a lake about
40 miles from Helsinki. He shares the antennas with his brother, OH2PO,
the builder of the dish. One of the truly unique experiences of this
WRTC were the pre- and post-contest saunas (pronouced "SOW-nah").
I'm still feeling the warm glow that results from dashing out of the
dark, dry heat of the wooden benches and diving off the dock into the
cool, clear water. I had to demonstrate the good, old American
Cannonball and Can Opener, of course. There's nothing like it.
Returning to the contest, though, if you were following the Real-Time
Scoreboard, I'm sure you got caught up in the horse race that developed
on Sunday. At the close of business, N6TJ and N6AA had managed to
overtake last year's champs (and odds-on favorites) N5TJ and K1TO for
the gold medal. Jim and Dick also fended off a very close challenge from
DL6FBL and DL2CC, who claimed the silver--also ahead of Jeff and Todd,
who will be delighted to take the bronze. Saturday night had N5TJ/K1TO
in the lead by a substantial margin--I'm guessing due to their uncanny
ability to mix mult-chasing with running. I was expecting a three-peat,
but Team Old Age and Treachery managed to close the gap and more.
I'm sure that Jim N6TJ will attribute it to "Guts", and he may be right.
Conditions were really good. Our host, John OH2BAH, said that conditions
were excellent for midsummer, with a minimum of static and absorption on
the low bands. Ten was spotty which was hardly a surprise with the
solar flux at 136. But with the A and K indices low at 4 and 2,
respectively, we were prepared for that. There were no fades and the
stations appeared from different parts of the world pretty much on cue.
I hope you got a chance to put a bunch of the OJ stations in your
log--maybe enough for a prize or certificate. Listening as I did to the
entire contest--I think I dozed for a total of about 45 minutes over the
entire 24-hour run--this was an unusual contest.
Before the starting bell, we all had visions of what might become an "EU
Sweepstakes". Not so. Because the weather cooperated, as well, there
were no stations off the air at any time due to lightning. I guess with
the sky staying light all the time, maybe you could use the excuse of
the sun being in your eyes, but that's about all you have to try. 80
meters was regional (what a surprise) but all the other bands were open
for DX with plenty of stations. My team of UA2FZ and RW4WR placed close
to the middle of the pack even with 2400+ QSOs.
They pushed the last-10-QSO rate meter into the high 200's many times,
even on CW. I think the difference between the competitors is a very
small one and is mainly of the fine points of squeezing every drop out
of a pileup or flurry of callers. With low antennas (12-meters about
ground) and equal locations, no one team had dominant propagation, so
they had to maximize each chance to score. So it was over in seemingly
an instant. I'll tell you that it was a tough chore to be so close--at
the end of a headphone cable--and yet so far, not being able to
participate in the rough and tumble of the contest. Referees just have
to grit their teeth and watch and listen. However, it does strengthen
one's resolve to get better and be worthy of one of the next WRTC
chairs. Speaking of which, will there be another WRTC? Almost
certainly, but unlike the past two events, there is no announcement of a
host organization yet. I'm sure that the enthusiasm generated by
WRTC2002 will carry over to an organization stepping up and taking on
the job.
Then we will all be figuring out how to be a captain...or be best
friends with someone who is. And maybe just packing our bags and saving
our frequent-flyer miles to participate in one of the best experiences
in ham radio, the World Radiosport Team Championship.
Nakemiin (Goodbye) from Finland!
73, Ward N0AX/OH
>From n2mg at eham.net Sun Jul 14 21:12:04 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
References: <1.5.4.32.20020714190520.011fe79c@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <002501c22bad$67243d40$62749541@delllaptopmfg>
Sounds more like a problem with the scoring process, like perhaps the
software that team was using was miscounting (over scoring) something all
along, then at the end they realized it and recalculated and reposted
(though I cannot explain the time stamps)
Not that we would speculate - not on *this* reflector... ;-)
-Mike N2MG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tippett" <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
To: <pvrc@mailman.qth.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 12:05 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
> The detailed breakdown for N6TJ/N6AA shows the following
> sequence, only the last of which is posted, even though it is an
> earlier time. May be some problem with the posting process since
> the progression from earlier would indicate the 1.7M score is in
> the right ballpark (remember OH time is UTC + 3):
>
> OH time Score
> 13:00:26 1570162
> 14:01:10 1658232
> 15:26:21 1747340
> 15:20:00 1411344
>
> At this point, nobody knows what this means but the OH guys!
>
> 73, Bill W4ZV
>From N5RP at pdq.net Mon Jul 15 11:55:10 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Telrex Rotator
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715105256.00b83a78@pop.pdq.net>
Contesters subscribed to this list given priority of purchase.
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This unit may very well be the type of rotator that will never be built
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Pictures available upon request, but I must open boxes to take same.
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...........................................
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>From contesting at eircom.net Mon Jul 15 19:05:26 2002
From: contesting@eircom.net (Tim Makins, EI8IC)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A New Concept in Ham Maps
Message-ID: <001401c22c22$4185e780$e6a9a5c2@host>
People might be interested to see a new type of Ham Map, now available for
free on my website. It will be of use to all amateurs, whether HF or VHF
based.
The problem with ordinary web-based maps is that there is either too little
or too much information on the screen. I have just completed a map of
Europe, the first in a series of Overlay Maps, where YOU get to choose the
amount of information you have on display.
The following overlays are available:
Country Outlines, CQ Zones, ITU Zones, Time Zones, Grid Locators, Country
Names, Capital Cities, Prefixes, Flags.
You can chose which overlays are on display, the order they are displayed
in, and which one is on the top.
The map can be saved in the normal manner (File>Save As) for viewing
off-line, and it can be printed out with what ever overlays are active.
As the page is graphics-intensive (220kB) it takes approximately 30 seconds
to load with a 56kB modem, or 1 minute with a 28.2Kb modem. A pre-loader
page is provided as an entry point. The address is
http://www.qsl.net/ei8ic/grids/euro/preload.html
Or it can be accessed through the normal menu on my website.
IMPORTANT: THE MAP REQUIRES JAVASCRIPT TO BE ENABLED ON YOUR BROWSER.
IF YOU HAVE JAVASCRIPT TURNED OFF, IT WON'T WORK.
I welcome any comments or suggestions for other maps.
73s Tim EI8Ic
www.qsl.net/ei8ic/
HF and Budget Contesting Information Site.
More maps in this series will be added as time and resources allow. It takes
me about a week to make the map and its overlays. If you would like to
sponsor a map in this series, order a similar map of a particular area, or
need any other graphics processing or web-design ($80/page), please contact
me.
>From n2nu at arrl.net Mon Jul 15 15:01:35 2002
From: n2nu@arrl.net (John T. Fischer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
Message-ID: <002401c22c29$aa508480$2cc8060a@7911BXL20056>
I worked three maritime mobile stations in the IARU test and logged them as
xxnxxx/MM (e.g. SP2AVE/MM). In all cases, these were logged as 0 point
contacts in my version of WriteLog. I cannot find any reference at all to MM
stations in the rules, and I would think that these should be logged as 5
pointers since they were outside the continent and zone... In one case the
station gave me a new zone multiplier (which the program counts), even though
it was still logged as 0 points!
Clarification on the rules, anyone?
Thanks, John
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>From dhenderson at arrl.org Mon Jul 15 15:03:15 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RTTY Roundup Results Now Available Online
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC044F90EB@kahless.arrlhq.org>
The results for the 2002 ARRL RTTY Roundup are now available online to ARRL
members at:
www.arrl.org/contests/results
ARRL members must be logged on with the membership ID and password.
My hearty congratulations to Jay Townsend, WS7I, on an exceptionally well
done Web article. Also our thanks to Eddie Schneider, W6/G0AZT on a great
job of processing the logs and handling the log checking.
The results will also appear in the September QST. For non-ARRL members,
public online results are opened approximately 30 days after the results
appear in QST.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 15 12:08:02 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 15Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207151808.g6FI82i11147@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 15Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in the summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S LP
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW LP
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
VE9DX 739 0 266 300,048
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 37,609 FCG
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed LP
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
WN6K 344 338 91 15 211,575 SCCC
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed QRP
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB LP
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
Operators:
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 15 12:09:17 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 15Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207151809.g6FI9H111157@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 15Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in thsi summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA M/S HP
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW LP
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed HP
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB HP
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB LP
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
Operators:
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Mon Jul 15 15:12:49 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 Honor Roll
Message-ID: <20020715141249.K4998@cs.utexas.edu>
The W1AW/5 team appreciates the efforts of all Amateur Radio operators
that got on for the 2002 IARU HF World Championship and helped make it a
weekend to remember. With over 10,000 QSOs in the log, we would like to
especially recognize those who worked W1AW/5 on all 12 band-modes, on the
6 CW bands, or the 6 phone bands. Check out the W1AW/5 Honor Roll at the
Central Texas DX & Contest Club web site:
http://www.ctdxcc.org/
--
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Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Mon Jul 15 21:06:37 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Telrex Rotator
References: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715105256.00b83a78@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <3D332B4D.BD417655@directvinternet.com>
If someone is thinking of buying Bob's prop pitch, be warned there is
a LOCKING NUT on the rotator housing. Remove it before applying power.
Actually, in the one I had, I didn't know this. No matter, the rotor
just got up a little steam, and sheared it off like it wasn't there.
Not the best way.
):>
Ed
>From N5RP at pdq.net Mon Jul 15 16:42:55 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Telrex Rotator
In-Reply-To: <3D332B4D.BD417655@directvinternet.com>
References: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715105256.00b83a78@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715154010.00b99118@pop.pdq.net>
At 20:06 7/15/2002 +0000, K4SB wrote:
>If someone is thinking of buying Bob's prop pitch, be warned there is
>a LOCKING NUT on the rotator housing. Remove it before applying power.
====================>
The locking nut would still be on the unit.
>Actually, in the one I had, I didn't know this. No matter, the rotor
>just got up a little steam, and sheared it off like it wasn't there.
====================>
Guess that says it all - It will turn about anything .
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From Timothy.Urban at wc.ey.com Mon Jul 15 18:05:03 2002
From: Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com (Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
Message-ID: <OF2DE0EB34.2B77BCEA-ON85256BF7.00730B52@ey.com>
LIsters, etiquette question follows:
I worked another station on SSB during the IARU contest, the other op got
my callsign correct, but apparently mis-heard my ITU zone.
I said "five nine - zero eight", but the other op responded by saying "QSL
on your zone seven, QRZ de.....". I then replied "negative, zone 8" but
the other op had already sent "qrz" and begun working another station.
Propagation wasn't great and the other op didn't seem to hear my following
calls to fix the busted zone.
How concerned should I be? Should I try to re-contact the other op later
with a dupe hf contact during the contest to alert him to the busted zone?
I'm trying to be very conscientious but many of the other contesters
don't seem as obsessed with accuracy..........
73
Tim
N5IIT
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Mon Jul 15 18:09:12 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
In-Reply-To: <OF2DE0EB34.2B77BCEA-ON85256BF7.00730B52@ey.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715170515.00b875d8@pop.pdq.net>
At 17:05 7/15/2002 -0400, Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com wrote:
><snip>
>How concerned should I be? Should I try to re-contact the other op later
>with a dupe hf contact during the contest to alert him to the busted zone?
> I'm trying to be very conscientious but many of the other contesters
>don't seem as obsessed with accuracy........
==========================>
If you can work him again without too much effort, and without costing
yourself whatever contest asset(s) you consider important, do so.
I would scrub the busted 1st QSO from my log.
No matter what, QSO #1 was not completed, based upon what you were given as
an acknowledgement.
Welcome to contesting.
Set a standard for yourself that is proper, and enjoy it properly.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From aa4ga at contesting.com Mon Jul 15 19:24:47 2002
From: aa4ga@contesting.com (Lee Hiers)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
Message-ID: <3D33136F.4886.22C6C8B@localhost>
Every time I work this contest I work folks that don't know their
zone.
Let's say a W1 calls and tells me he's in zone 5.
I ask "what's your QTH?"
"Maine"
"OK, that's ITU zone 8"
"No, I'm in zone 5"
Or some similar discourse.
So, how do you log it / count points?
73 de Lee
--
Lee Hiers, AA4GA
Cornelia, Georgia
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Mon Jul 15 19:35:10 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
References: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715170515.00b875d8@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <3D334E1E.2C303EA6@gte.net>
"Bob, N5RP" wrote:
> If you can work him again without too much effort, and without
> costing yourself whatever contest asset(s) you consider important,
> do so.
More than likely, you'll get "QSO B4 QRZ" and be SOL for a second QSO
(which again, is a reason to work dupes ... just in case one of the two
made an error).
> I would scrub the busted 1st QSO from my log. No matter what,
> QSO #1 was not completed, based upon what you were given as an
> acknowledgement.
On the other hand, if you count the QSO ... you'll get credit for it ...
he'll lose and get penalized for it as a busted QSO!
The guy sort of deserves that because:
a) not getting the info correct the first time and
b) probably not going to work you a second time for a "good" QSO
As Bob said "Set a standard for yourself that is proper, and enjoy it
properly". Whatever way you go, at least be consistent.
Ron
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Mon Jul 15 19:40:36 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
Message-ID: <3D334F64.4C84294C@gte.net>
After all the pre-WRTC hype ...
it's now after 1:30 AM in OH land ... 7 1/2 hours after the Awards
Dinner.
Who won?
What teams were behind the OJ calls?
Waiting to find out ...
Ron, WD4AHZ
>From Jimk8mr at aol.com Mon Jul 15 20:01:23 2002
From: Jimk8mr@aol.com (Jimk8mr@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
Message-ID: <197.9bf7121.2a64ae43@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/15/2002 6:55:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wd4ahz@gte.net
writes:
> it's now after 1:30 AM in OH land ... 7 1/2 hours after the Awards Dinner.
>
> Who won?
>
Of all the people in the world, I thought you guys in Florida would
understand having to wait... and wait... and wait... for the results from a
close contest. :-)
Only 36 and 2/3 days to go.
Jim K8MR
(Also waiting to hear)
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>From llindblom at juno.com Tue Jul 16 00:10:21 2002
From: llindblom@juno.com (Larry L Lindblom)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NAQP RTTY
Message-ID: <20020715.231021.-397105.3.LLindblom@juno.com>
If your thinking about playing in NAQP RTTY why not double you pleasure
double your fun and sign on for a team. By playing on a team you compete
in both the single op and team competition. For me playing on a team
adds a new lever of enjoyment to this fun event.
Those signed on so far to play on a team with TCG include:
K4GKM
K4RO
W4BCG
N1NB
KE4OAR
N2WK
W5CTV
If your expressed interest and your call is missing from the list, please
resend your message.
I will put together as many teams as there are interested players.
E-mail me direct if you want to sign of to a team
You will notice my own call is lacking from the list. This is because
the frequency tuning in my main rig died and the backup rig suddenly
seems to have almost zero power output. You might say in was a lousy
weekend here in the IARU test. I have serious doubt about getting one of
these rigs going by this Saturday. If I do count me in, if I don't I'll
cheer all the TCG team players on from the sidelines.
73 W0ETC
>From kd4d at comcast.net Mon Jul 15 21:47:13 2002
From: kd4d@comcast.net (Mark Bailey)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
References: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715170515.00b875d8@pop.pdq.net>
<3D334E1E.2C303EA6@gte.net>
Message-ID: <015801c22c62$53a9f6a0$6501a8c0@Mark1>
Hello, all:
"QSO B4 QRZ" mystifies me. Or, maybe, "B4 PJ2M"
or "DUPE PJ2M" or whatever, which seems more efficient.
Why would the run station EVER send this?
Is the run station going to send QSO B4 and then WAIT for
an answer and start to negotiate? This appears to make sense
only in the rare contest where both stations are penalized for
an error. And, it's not QSO B4 QRZ?, its QSO B4 (wait for
answer).
There are only three cases :-) :
Case 1: The S&P station busted the call the first time.
If he's serious, he'll probably argue about it, especially if you
are a multiplier. It will take longer to look up and send a QSO
time or whatever than to just complete another QSO. You
don't get penalized for a duplicate QSO in your log, and he'll
get credit at least for the second QSO. (Of course, both of
you log ALL QSO's). He gets penalized for the first bad QSO
but you don't.
Case 2: You busted his call the first time.
Well, you lose credit for the initial QSO whatever happens, unless
you spend a lot of time negotiating with the other station and
figuring out what happened. However, working him again then
gives YOU a good QSO. You get the penalty for the bad
initial QSO anyway.
Case 3: Other!
It's another mistake. Who knows? :-) Computer or operator
confusion? Busted packet spot? Maybe the other station
realizes the error and doesn't send anything else. Still, completing
and logging the QSO benefits the run station and is just about as
fast as listening to the other station sending "SRI" or whatever.
They always seem to send "SRI", right on top of a weak
multiplier calling you. :-)
BTW, Operator confusion can affect the running station too.
So, why would anyone EVER send QSO B4 QRZ?
Maybe in Sweepstakes, with the long exchange?
But, then negotiation starts to seem appealing...so you
send "QSO B4" and wait for the response.
Still slower than just completing the QSO! And, it isn't
sending "QSO B4 QRZ?."
Awaiting enlightenment...
73,
Mark, KD4D
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Wetjen" <wd4ahz@gte.net>
To: "Bob, N5RP" <N5RP@pdq.net>
Cc: <Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
> "Bob, N5RP" wrote:
>
> > If you can work him again without too much effort, and without
> > costing yourself whatever contest asset(s) you consider important,
> > do so.
>
> More than likely, you'll get "QSO B4 QRZ" and be SOL for a second QSO
> (which again, is a reason to work dupes ... just in case one of the two
> made an error).
>
> > I would scrub the busted 1st QSO from my log. No matter what,
> > QSO #1 was not completed, based upon what you were given as an
> > acknowledgement.
>
> On the other hand, if you count the QSO ... you'll get credit for it ...
> he'll lose and get penalized for it as a busted QSO!
>
> The guy sort of deserves that because:
>
> a) not getting the info correct the first time and
> b) probably not going to work you a second time for a "good" QSO
>
> As Bob said "Set a standard for yourself that is proper, and enjoy it
> properly". Whatever way you go, at least be consistent.
>
> Ron
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>From kr1g at hotmail.com Tue Jul 16 03:21:19 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
Message-ID: <F75gJyjX1VThKL3XUK900013a00@hotmail.com>
For obvious screwups, like the W1in zone 5 or the DL in zone 15 I log the
"correct" zone. For the RK4 in zone 30, the UN in zone 31 etc, I log what
they send me - hey, they might be right!
for the record, I only "corrected" one zone. Theoretically, I should have
engaged the OM/YL in a lively CW discourse explaining that the exchange was
IARU zone not CQ zone, but my CW (other than contestese) is not so hot and
they probably wouldn't have understood me anyways :)
73
Ted KT1V
PS: Anyone know how closely the logs get checked? Not that it should effect
proper behavior! but just curious. I detailed UBN would be great
>From: "Lee Hiers" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
>To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
>
>Every time I work this contest I work folks that don't know their
>zone.
>
>Let's say a W1 calls and tells me he's in zone 5.
>
>I ask "what's your QTH?"
>
>"Maine"
>
>"OK, that's ITU zone 8"
>
>"No, I'm in zone 5"
>
>Or some similar discourse.
>
>So, how do you log it / count points?
>
>73 de Lee
>
>
>--
>Lee Hiers, AA4GA
>Cornelia, Georgia
>
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Tue Jul 16 00:24:32 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC mail box full
Message-ID: <00ad01c22c78$4e4a8740$2d1045cf@default>
A problem has been reported by a local SECC member. He got this
message......
Copy=============
Anyone else but me have their WRTC log submission
rejected due to lack of room in the recipient's
mailbox?
Dick K2UFT
End================
Someone needs to get a message to them that there are probably logs rejected
all over the place. Dick worked 47 OJ stations!
73 Dave K4JRB
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Mon Jul 15 23:39:15 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
In-Reply-To: <197.9bf7121.2a64ae43@aol.com>
Message-ID: <MCBBJAHBAIHDJKDNKBBIEEHBCAAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
What AHZ asked for was who was who among the OJ calls...
Is this what you are after, Jim....
http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/pos.pl?hpng=WRTC
73,
dale, kg5u
>
> In a message dated 7/15/2002 6:55:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> wd4ahz@gte.net
> writes:
>
>
> > it's now after 1:30 AM in OH land ... 7 1/2 hours after the
> Awards Dinner.
> >
> > Who won?
> >
>
>
> Of all the people in the world, I thought you guys in Florida would
> understand having to wait... and wait... and wait... for the
> results from a
> close contest. :-)
>
> Only 36 and 2/3 days to go.
>
>
> Jim K8MR
>
> (Also waiting to hear)
>
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>From bhorn at hornucopia.com Mon Jul 15 22:21:25 2002
From: bhorn@hornucopia.com (Bruce Horn)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
In-Reply-To: <3D334F64.4C84294C@gte.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020715211916.00b05c18@hornucopia.com>
At 06:40 PM 7/15/2002 -0400, Ron Wetjen wrote:
>Who won?
The official top five and photos of the awards ceremony are available on
the NCJ web site:
http://www.ncjweb.com/
I assume complete results will soon be available on the official WRTC 2002
web site.
73 de Bruce, WA7BNM (bhorn@hornucopia.com)
>From k6km at cncnet.com Mon Jul 15 22:52:45 2002
From: k6km@cncnet.com (Bill)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
References: <20020712213837.HVSX20539.fep06-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.110]>
Message-ID: <3D33A69D.9470A48E@cncnet.com>
Hei OH-land!
What is happening there?
Please tell us supporters of WRTC02 WHO WON the
competition!
Obviously there were some scoring problems, most
notably with N6TJ and N6AA. PLEASE tell us why their
score decreased as time passed; that should not be possible.
PLEASE tell us why the N5KO/9V1YC score went
flat in the last few hours.
PLEASE tell us which teams were associated with which
OJ callsigns!
PLEASE tell us what's going on. To me, the delay in
reporting results means that POLITICS is coming in
to play and POLITICS may be more meaningful than
PERFORMANCE in determing the final results.
PLEASE prove me wrong.
As any one might expect, Team Finland did a wonderful
job preparing for and hosting WRTC 2002. Thank you
for that. But WHY have you kept the world in ignorance
as to the results?
PLEASE TELL US WOT's UP!
Bill K6KM
also OH2/K6KM and OH0/K6KM
>From 107770.3462 at compuserve.com Tue Jul 16 02:17:05 2002
From: 107770.3462@compuserve.com (James P. Cassidy)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QSO B4
Message-ID: <200207160117_MC3-1-693-9387@compuserve.com>
I had a really good experience with one station in the IARU regarding QSO
B4. He sent SRI QSO B4, I said no and he went ahead and worked me again.
Worked OK for both and didn't take much longer than just working again
without the message. I am sure I hadn't QSOed B4 as the computer logging
dupe check handles that and also I had not made that many Qs that I
wouldn't have remembered.
73 Jim KI7Y
>From ken.knopp at verizon.net Tue Jul 16 00:51:51 2002
From: ken.knopp@verizon.net (Ken K7ZUM)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W7GG, THREE RIVERS FIRE, I.A.R.U. 2002..... LONG
Message-ID: <004b01c22c95$43bffcc0$6401a8c0@dslverizon.net>
Hi All, thought I'd write about an experience I had over the weekend doing
the I.A.R.U. contest from W7GG'S central Oregon
contest location, as it will be one that will most defineteley stand out as one
that I will remember, and will be impossiable for us to forget !!
It started off friday morning still not knowing if W7GG was
going to do the test, as he had some sort of bug and was not feeling real well,
but being the intense competitor that he is, he went to the doc, got a pocket
full of medicine and gave me a call at my work QTH about 9:00 o'clock friday
morning saying he was headed over to the contest station and was going to give
it a try, and it should be no problem as he wanted to do c.w. (no talking, he
could save his voice) and my youngest son and I could do phone part, sounded
good to me ! but also to stick somewhat close to the 2 mtr radio as there was
a small lighting started forest fire north of his location, and he'd give me a
call and let me know the status of the fire after he got there.
Somewheres around 2 o'clock friday afternoon I got the call on 2
mtrs from Bob, fire did not look all of that bad, was about 5 miles from his
place, with a light wind blowing to the north, meaning away from his place, it
was also several ridges over, on the other side of Lake Billy Chinook, and on
the Indian reservation, we could see no problem, as have been over there with
them closer than that. So the contest was on, I'd get off of work, pick up my
youngest son, pack the truck and make the 2-1/2 hr 129 mile drive from
Gresham Ore to three rivers. It should be a good time, and we would get a
chance to check out all of the antenna
work that we had done a few months ago. I also got ahold of my dx-ped partner,
Craig, AH8DX/W7, and let him know the contest was on, and that we would be
heading over to Bob's place, and he was more than welcome to come over and use
my station for the test.
To those of you who have worked W7GG,AI7B or WW7OR over the
years and have wondered about his big signal, let me give a little run down on
his contest QTH, Three Rivers is a gated community, way out in the "pucker
brush" (literally) in the high desert of central Oregon, about 25 miles west of
a small town called Culver, basically a vacation resort, with a few
homes,mobile homes, trailer houses,etc, most people come over for the weekend,
with a few living there all year roung, there is no running water, no
commercial power, (nearest commercial power is about 20 miles away) no flushing
toilets, except the ones you make for yourself ! etc. etc. water is bought and
stored on site, electric power at W7GG's place is either solar,wind
mills,diesel or propane powered generators, towers and antenna's are many, 190
ft. rotating tower with 2 stacked full sized 3 element 40 mtr beams, stacked
kt34xa's, 80 and 160 mtr wire 4 squares, 165 ft tower with stacked mono-band
yagis for 20,15 and 10 mtrs, 125 ft tower with several other yagis, 100 ft.
tower with another tribander, windmills, solar paners, etc. on it, that covers
most of the antennas, He has this all situated on about 5 acres, and it is a
very nice place to retire to on a weekend and play radio, so when you hear
W7GG on the air handing out Q's, it is at great expense to Bob.
So, it was up over Mt Hood, and into central Oregon for what I
hoped would be an uneventful drive, but my youngest son was driving, and
anything could happen!!! ( it didn't, he did a good job on the way over) By
the time we came up out of Warm Springs and onto the flats into Madras, the sun
was going down over the mountains, and we got a good look at the small forest
fire
off in the distance, smoke was drifting to the north, which was good, as we
were going to be south of it. So It was on into Madras, follow the signs to
Lake Billy Chinook, and keep my eyes on the fire.
By the time we got to the top of the canyon road that drops you
down into Lake Billy Chinook it was dark, and that little bitty forest fire
was looking a little on the menancing side, we were still about 20 miles away,
so down into the canyon we went, over two very, very narrow suspension bridges
and climbed up out of the canyon, once on top, we got our first real look at
that little bitty forest fire, it was no longer just menancing looking, it was
damn scary looking, and we were headed right for it !
I called bob on 2 mtrs and tried to describe what I was seeing, he sounded a
little concerned, and said that it was still 4 to 5 miles north west of him,
with a very mild breeze blowing to the north away from him, so it should still
be no problem, I said we'd be there soon, and signed off, It was about then
that I noticed that my normally lead footed 15 yr old son was looking out the
windshield at the fire in front of us,mouth open, and eyes opened even wider !
and going very slow ! ! I knew he was just as stunned as I was, I just looked
at him and said, I dont think were going to be doing much contesting this
weekend, were probally going to Bob's place and packing the truck's up and
getting the heck out of there. I don't think in the fifteen years that I have
been lucky enough to have Jordan as my son, that I have ever seen him agree
more quickly to anything I have ever said !
By the time we got to the main gate to pick up a pass to go
onto Three Rivers property, the normally empty parking lot was full of fire
trucks, heavy earth moving equipment, fire fighters, etc., and the fire was a
site to behold, the entire night sky to the northwest of where I was standing
had the most sureal, eerie orange "glow" that I have ever seen
I went in to get a pass, came back out, stood in awe, and looked at the fire
in the sky, made a few choice four letter "observations", and was already
planning in my mind what I could pack in my little truck and how I could get it
in, just in case they gave the word to evacuate.
Made the mile or so drive from the main gate to Bobs place and
pulled into his property, Meet Bob outside, parked the truck and we sat on the
outside deck and made plans of what we should do if we had to leave in a hurry,
all the while looking to the northwest at the "orange glow" coming over the top
of the tree's.
By now, there was no breeze, some cloud cover, and we could smell no "smoke"
that was about 10:00 o'clock in the evening,
by 11:00 we decided to try and get some sleep, only problem was, it was too hot
to sleep in the house, and it was still 94 degrees outside !!!! So for Jordan
and me, It was make a bed out on the deck and try and sleep in just shorts !
by midnight I knew it was going to be a long hot,semi sleepless night ! and
what was worse, was that every little breeze that came along, I found myself
trying to determine what direction, north, south,east,west, is there smoke on
that breeze, can I hear the tell tale sounds of burning trees, and on and on,
and then there was that eerie "orange" glow from the fire, it was reflecting
off of the cloud cover and everything I could see had an "orange" glow to it,
trees, grass, house, towers,antennas, gravel, etc, literally everything ! was
very un-nerving ! At one point Jordan got up, had a white t-shirt on, walked
by me, and he was even "glowing orange" !!!!
It was somewhere's around 3 o'clock in the morning that I noticed that the
"glow" was no longer around, got up, looked to the northwest, and could no
longer see much of anything, no smoke rising, no orange glow, laid back down
and finally fell asleep with the thoughts that the fire was dying out, and the
firefighters had it under control, I felt much better, and actually got about 3
hours worth of sleep !
bob was up at 4:30, ready to start the test at 5:00, he
started out on 40 c.w. with JA5ING/1 first in the log at 5:06 a.m. local time.
By the time I got up with several cups of coffe in me to try and shake off my
restless night,and take a peek around the side of the house to check on the
fire, ( hurray, looked like it was pretty much gone out ! ) there was 210 Q's
in the log,
We traded seats and I started off of 20 mtr ssb, with N0NI first in the log at
7:57 a.m. local, made a total of 13 q's on 20 ssb and decided that was not the
place to be, last q's on 20 that morning was W1AW/5 at 8:25 a.m. local, bad
rates !
15 mtrs sounded much, much better, with W6XR first in the log,
europe was open and was answering my c.q.'s !
so for the next hour and a half or so, I ran and ran, watching the rate meter
at times aproaching 185 q's, not bad, not bad at all for way out here in
Oregon ! And then I had something happen to me that I have read about many
times over the years, about 9:30 local time ( 14:30 utc) I was calling c.q.
with the voice keyer, I heard something, stopped, and heard the tail end of a
c.q. message, what I heard was, seven germany germany contest ! I had
thought it a little odd for a split secound, and then realized that was my
VOICE ! my first long delayed echo ??
Bob walked into the shack at about 10:00 a.m. local, looked at
the rates I was having on 15 phone, and I could see by the look in his eye's (
plus the drool coming out of the side of his mouth !) that he wanted some of
the action, I took a break and let Bob run some c.w. went into the kitchen,
grabbed a cup of coffee, walked out the back door to check on the fire, and
everything looked just fine ! no smoke, no clouds, no fire ! looked like we
were gonna have a great time this weekend after all !
by 11:00 a.m. local time, I looked out the south window of the
shack and noticed that it was getting hard to see the big tower about 400
hundred feet away, and the smell of burning wood was starting to come into the
shack ! I took one look at Bob, and he looked at me as I was putting down my
drink, letting Bob know I was going to go and check things out.
Grabbed a set of binocoulrs on the way out of the house, headed
over to the pole barn, grabbed a climbing belt and headed out to the small
tower to the northwest of the property, up the tower I went and hooked on at
about 60-70 ft., well above the tree line and took a peek, by then there was so
much low lying smoke in all directions, it was hard to tell where it was coming
from, but with a little bit of squinting, I could see that it was coming from
the northwest, so far it looked like a smouldering camp fire, and from what I
could see, was still about 4-5 miles away. Down the tower I went, into the
shack and discussed what I had seen with Bob, we had heard nothing from the
main gate about evacuation, so decided to to worry just yet.
By 11:45 a.m. local time we had looked out the window and noticed
there was a slight breeze coming from the south, and had cleared out all of the
smoke ! GREAT ! no clouds, no smoke, a slight breeze from the south, and the
europeans were just booming in on 15 mtrs ! things were looking up ! it was
also getting close to 90 degrees F. ! We traded off and I ran europe for about
another hour or so, By 12:00 or so in the afternoon, the temperature in the
shack was somewhere around 94 degrees, and that was with two box fans going,
one 20 inch box fan was in the west window of the shack, and we both noticed at
about the same time, that the fan was speeding up and slowing down, and it
wasn't due to voltage variations from the diesel generator, Our slight
southern breeze had changed directions and was now coming from the worst
possiable direction, out of the northwest, and it was no longer a "slight
breeze".
We traded off at 12:15 p.m. local, europe still booming in on
15 mtr c.w., I went to the kitchen to grab something cold to drink and find
something to snack on and walked out the back door to check on the fire, by now
I could see some smoke rising above the trees, but not coming at us, was
starting to worry a little bit, as the wind was really starting to pick up, and
it was really gettin hot ! it had to be somewheres over a hundred outside, with
no humidity.
Went back into the shack at 1:15 p.m. to take over, noticed
that the temp in the shack was getting close to 98 deg. F.
seen bob had changed to 20 c.w., so decided to try 20 phone and put in some
much needed q's on that band, by 1:40 p.m. decided that 20 was not producing
well, and went back to 15 phone for a little S&P, first in was TA3D at 1:49
p.m. local, did a little more S & P'ing, and found my first JA, JA4DPL at
1:52 p.m. local, now I decided it was time to reposition antenna's, turn the
TB-6 to the U.S., turn the rotating tower with the stacked KT-34-XA's to JA
land, and use WX0B's six pack box ( the fun switch) to switch between the fixed
european stack, U.S. antenna and JA antenna's, now it was time to really rock
and roll ! as I had the whole world to work, europe was still booming in, U.S.
was booming in, a few south americans, and the J.A. and deep Russians were
starting to roll !
At 2:00 p.m. local time, Craig, AH8DX\W7 checked in from my
station in Gresham, we exchanged numbers and info, he asked how it was going, I
had stated that we were starting to really worry about the fire to the north of
use, and was not sure how much longer we might be here, by then, the box fan in
the window was really howing, from my operating position, I could not see out
the window very well, but from the way the fan was howling, I was expecting at
any moment flames to be lapping around the corner ! we only had at that time,
614 q's in the log, it had been somewhat difficult to concentrate on the
contest, and was getting harder and harder to concentrate on the contest. the
temperature in the shack was now at 99.9 deg. F., and it was much hotter
outside.
Another 22 minutes went by and I had put another 40 q's in the
log, my son had showed up at my side, stating that he had been up at the front
gate talking to a firefighter who had said that if you had and personal
belongings, you had better start packing them and be prepared to get out. I had
stopped and took a call on two meters from one of the other hams that live on
the property, so far he had not heard anything from the front gate about
evacuating. About that time, bob walked into the shack, we all sat and
discussed what to do next, I thought that maybe the best thing to do for the
time being, was to grab the binoculours and a climbing belt and go back up the
little tower and take another peek at the fire. All agreed that this would give
us some sort of go\no go. So out the door I went, over to the tower, and up I
went. This particular tower I can only climb up on the north face of it, so at
about the 65-70 ft level, I clipped on, grabbed for the binoculours, turned
around, and damned near dropped the binocs !! this time I did not need them,
as what I saw put a chill up my spine, and stood the hair up on the back of my
neck !
What I was looking at, was no longer just a smoldering fire, it
was a raging, wind whipped, out of control wild fire, with huge billowing
clouds of smoke, what was worse, it was no longer 4-5 miles away, it was maybe
2, and heading southeast, pretty much right for use, what was even worse than
that, was a fire had spread south of the main fire, and IT WAS heading for us !
by this time, the winds were whipped up to around 30 or so miles per hour.
I have always thought it rather unusual as to some of the
things I remember in times of stress like this, and it seemed rather odd to me,
that standing up on that tower, watching this raging fire, and thinking about
watching an interview several years ago of the commanding officer of Clark Air
Force base in the Phillippines after the volcano there covered up the air base,
A reporter had asked him what indication he had, as to when to evacuate, his
answer was when he seen a young seargeant running by him, yelling, General, I
hope you gots some Jam in your pocket, as were about to be "toast" ! then he
knew it was time to leave !
and me, like the General, I sure wasn't much intrested in becoming "toast", so
it was unclip myself from the tower, with Bob barreling out the back door of
the house, saying we gots to GO ! and from 65 ft or so up, I don't think it
took me 30 secounds before my feet hit the ground at a dead run for the house,
now it was time to try and decide what to save.
It was now about 2:45 p.m. local, as we headed for the shack
to try and save as much as possiable before the fire hit, we had maybe 2 hrs, 3
tops, I shut the computers off, noticed that we only had 661 q's in the log,
with JA6FMR being the last one at 21:36 UTC. Bob, Jordan and I had a short
conversation with what to start with, was easy, the most expensive equipment
first, I started unplugging all of the 1000 mike papa's, Bob and Jordan started
on all of the smaller radios, power supplies and brick amps, we started
stacking things on the front porch, from there, next was the Titan amps and
power supplies, next from there was the Henry amps, both little Henry, and big
Henry, by then we had quit a pile stacked up on the front porch, the next thing
to do was to back my little pickup up to the deck and start loading, mike
papa's, titans,power supplies,bricks,smaller radios into the back of the truck,
next was to try and get the big amps into the bed, and from there, start
shoving anything else that we could into it. At one point I remember looking up
at the temp gauge, 100.5 deg. F. no wonder the sweat was pouring out of use !
and that damn box fan in the window was still howling !
Don't ask me why, but for some reason or another, there was a
surplus of unused cardboard boxes, and thank god there was, as we used every
one of them shoving wallpaper,hard won contest plaques, family memories, stack
match boxes,six pack boxes, relay boxes, filters, top ten boxes, four square
boxes,monitors,computers, headphones,mics,footswitches,and anything else we
could shove in them, and when we ran out of boxes, we found some plastic boxes
full of linen, out went the linen, and in went the good stuff ! It was truly
amazing, in about an hour and a half, we had that shack pretty much torn down
to tables and chairs, and had pretty much gotten all of the equipment out, What
was even more amazing was when I went out the back door to check on the
progress of the fire, It was no longer "just" to the northwest of us, it was
still spreading towards use, but was also traveling at a very high rate to the
east, more or less parellel to us, and from what I could see, in the hour or so
I had last checked on it, it looked like it had gone maybe 3 miles, with
billowing smoke clouds that had to be reaching 25,000 plus feet, and streaching
from just about as far as I could see to the west, to as far as I could see to
the east, the sight of this made us move a little bit faster, as we still had
plenty to try and load up.
It was now about 4:15, and we had more to try and load, we
started loading motorcycles into Bob's truck, got them tied down, hitched up
his boat, and proceded to shove as much stuff as we could into his boat, and
front of his Truck.
another 45 minutes or so had passed, and we had pretty much decided that we had
all we were gonna get, my poor ole truck was so loaded, that it was pretty much
draggin the rear bumper, and the tires were just about half flat, was gonna be
a long slow ride home. Bob's truck was just about the same, don't think we
could have shoved to much more into it either !
It was now a little after 5:00 p.m. and was time to leave, we took another look
at the fire, it had grown even more, and looked as if it had traveled another 2
miles east, and now the smoke cloud was reminding me of what MT. ST. Helens
looked like when it blew its top 20 some odd years ago, not a pretty site !
As we were getting ready to leave, Jordan came up to me, and
with some pretty red and wet eyes, made the statement that this was just about
the saddest day of his life, and I could not help but think he was probally
right, as for the last five years this has been our radio contesting home, as
Bob and his wife Laverna have been gracious hosts to my two boys and I, we have
gone there and played radio so many times in the last five years that the
contests are becoming a blurr, we have had nothing but great times and great
memories at the Three Rivers Contest Club, to think that it could be over with
and that the next time that we see the place, it could be nothing more than
"toast" it was just a little to mind numbing. About all I could do was give him
a hug, let him know that there was nothing we could do at the moment, and just
hope for the best. it was time to go.
Here I am writing this late sunday evening, and still no word on
what if anything has happened to W7GG'S place, they are not letting anybody in,
and the news reports don't look all of that good, fire is still spreading.
for those of you that would like to send a kind word of two to Bob, here's his
e-mail address:
bob.wrubble@verizon.net
vy 73...... Ken....... K7ZUM........ FS/K7ZUM........ PJ7/K7ZUM
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>From n2mg at eham.net Tue Jul 16 08:14:24 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
References: <3D33136F.4886.22C6C8B@localhost>
Message-ID: <007b01c22cb9$f1c533c0$3201a8c0@mikehome>
In the conversation below, you have already engaged in a somewhat extended
dialog (for a contest) - why not finish it and tell him, "This contest is
the IARU contest and uses IARU zones which are different from CQ zones.
You're definitely in Zone 8." ? Then log him as such. If he asks for more
info, send him to the ARRL website.
I log what I think is correct - usually that's whatever the guy sent, but
when you know better, well...
73 Mike N2MG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Hiers" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:24 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
> Every time I work this contest I work folks that don't know their
> zone.
>
> Let's say a W1 calls and tells me he's in zone 5.
>
> I ask "what's your QTH?"
>
> "Maine"
>
> "OK, that's ITU zone 8"
>
> "No, I'm in zone 5"
>
> Or some similar discourse.
>
> So, how do you log it / count points?
>
> 73 de Lee
>
>
> --
> Lee Hiers, AA4GA
> Cornelia, Georgia
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Jul 16 08:17:27 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Drugs @ WRTC - final results?
Message-ID: <004501c22cba$5e327720$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
...there is a rumor circulating around the West Coast that N6AA and N6TJ were
penalized for using performance enhancing drugs in WRTC - belive there is a
factual error however...
Rather than the supposed drug, Geritol...I believe it was actually Icy-Hot
being rubbed on their sending hands.
Sure wish the Finns would update the WRTC site, suspect the awards ceremony was
one kb party and they are still trashed - do have some insider info but the
rest of the World and all of the Florida Contest Group has been glued to their
web page for two days now - and the winner is?
73,
Jim, K4OJ
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Tue Jul 16 12:26:48 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 2002 Results
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020716102648.01310e9c@pop.vnet.net>
>From today's issue of The Daily DX:
This past weekend was the annual running of the IARU HF Championship
in which 52 top-notch two-man teams from all over the world competed
in the fourth running of the World Radio Team Championships held in
Helsinki, Finland. As of press time the official results had just
been made at a ceremony in down town Helsinki with over 400 people in
attendance. Your editor spoke directly with Marti Laine, OH2BH, Co-
Chairman of WRTC2002. Here are the top 10 finishers. Scores and
other details were not available, but should be posted at
http://www.wrtc2002.org later this week.
Rank Operators (station)
1 N5TJ - K1TO (OH2HXP) 6 VE3EJ - VE7ZO
2 RA3AUU - RV1AW (OH3AXA) 7 K5ZD - K1KI
3 DL2CC - DL6FBL (OX1XX) 8 UT4UZ - UT3UA
4 N6MJ - N2NL 9 LY1DS - LY2TA
5 KQ2M - W7WA 10 DK3GI - DL1IAO
Dan Street, K1TO, and Jeff Steinman, N5TJ, from the US, won the event.
The two were operating from the OH2HXP station using the callsign
OJ3A. This is the third straight win for the dynamic duo. This is
the second time the Russian team has come in second place.
At one point the Scoreboard reported the N6TJ and N6AA team as the
winner, however the TR logging program inflated their score. The
German team also has some minor deductions due to their logging
program Writelog. Congratulations to all the team members and a
special thanks to the SRAL and Contest Club of Finland for hosting
this fantastic event.
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Jul 16 08:39:08 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #255 - 11 msgs
References: <200207161121.g6GBLc5r004184@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <009301c22cbd$65e458a0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
here are the first web photos of Dan and his partner Jeff at the
ceremonies....
>Who won?
The official top five and photos of the awards ceremony are available on
the NCJ web site:
http://www.ncjweb.com/
I assume complete results will soon be available on the official WRTC 2002
web site.
>From k1ir at designet.com Tue Jul 16 09:16:40 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W7GG - thinking of you
Message-ID: <n3rhgxem6xm8eln.160720020816@designet-jsi>
Thanks to Ken's first-person account of your experience this weekend, I was
able to understand just a bit of what you must be going through. Sure hope you
emerge from this "ok".
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 16 10:09:28 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
References: <20020712213837.HVSX20539.fep06-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.110]>
<3D33A69D.9470A48E@cncnet.com>
Message-ID: <3D341B08.8BED670B@gte.net>
Bill wrote:
> Please tell us supporters of WRTC02 WHO WON the
> competition!
Here are the Top 5
1 N5TJ/K1TO
2 RA3AUU/RV1AW
3 DL2CC/DL6FBL
4 N6MJ/N2NL
5 KQ2M/W7WA
> Obviously there were some scoring problems, most
> notably with N6TJ and N6AA. PLEASE tell us why their
> score decreased as time passed; that should not be possible.
>From our man, K1TO:
"The N6TJ/N6AA score was inflated by TR and they finished about 15th."
> PLEASE tell us which teams were associated with which
> OJ callsigns!
K1TO/N5TJ were OJ3A. That's the only one I know of.
Ron, WD4AHZ
>From gm3woj at talk21.com Tue Jul 16 14:48:35 2002
From: gm3woj@talk21.com (Chris Tran GM3WOJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 results
Message-ID: <000301c22cc7$1f47abe0$6499fea9@chris.tranbtinternet.com>
Probably everyone will post this info., but the
final results + list of who was using which OJ callsign
is now at
http://www.wrtc2002.org/results.htm
73
Chris GM3WOJ
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 16 11:03:18 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC FINAL RESULTS
Message-ID: <3D3427A6.2B582239@gte.net>
THE FINAL RESULTS OF WRTC2002:
1. OJ3A N5TJ/K1TO 438/2782 = 1.629.798
2. OJ8E RA3AUU/RV1AW 426/2627 = 1.619.226
3. OJ2V DL2CC/DL6FBL 473/2468 = 1.608.673
4. OJ3R N6MJ/N2NL 436/2705 = 1.560.008
5. OJ8K KQ2M/W7WA 394/2816 = 1.479.470
6. OJ5A VE3EJ/VE7ZO 437/2635 = 1.473.127
7. OJ1M K5ZD/K1KI 457/2519 = 1.469.255
8. OJ6E UT4UZ/UT3UA 416/2637 = 1.468.064
9. OJ5W LY1DS/LY2TA 416/2638 = 1.459.744
10. OJ5M DK3GI/DL1IAO 440/2534 = 1.456.840
11. OJ6W OE2VEL/OE9MON 416/2560 = 1.436.448
12. OJ6C RW1AC/RW3QC 395/2776 = 1.414.100
13. OJ5U N6RT/N2NT 432/2435 = 1.412.640
14. OJ8W 9A9A/9A5E 373/2778 = 1.405.837
15. OJ7M SP3RBR/SP8NR 403/2650 = 1.402.440
16. OJ2F N6TJ/N6AA 397/2428 = 1.391.088
17. OJ3T RZ9UA/UA9MA 395/2708 = 1.390.795
18. OJ2H N5RZ/K2UA 410/2559 = 1.388.670
19. OJ8A K1AR/K1DG 432/2382 = 1.382.400
20. OJ2J HA1AG/HA3OV 408/2602 = 1.368.432
21. OJ3N N2IC/K6LL 405/2513 = 1.355.940
22. OJ4M K3LR/N9RV 366/2642 = 1.347.612
23. OJ3D W4AN/K4BAI 389/2530 = 1.347.107
24. OJ2Y UA2FZ/RW4WR 421/2389 = 1.331.623
25. OJ4N ON6TT/ON4WW 416/2260 = 1.301.248
26. OJ2Q YU7BW/YU1ZZ 381/2743 = 1.300.734
27. OJ6X OH1MDR/OH1MM 438/2267 = 1.293.414
28. OJ7C ES5MC/ES2RR 393/2505 = 1.288.254
29. OJ2Z G4PIQ/G4BWP 419/2342 = 1.277.950
30. OJ6N OK2FD/OK2ZU 379/2446 = 1.274.577
31. OJ1S SP7GIQ/SP2FAX 371/2498 = 1.234.317
32. OJ5T SM5IMO/SM3SGP 386/2381 = 1.214.742
33. OJ7X S50A/S59AA 379/2542 = 1.210.147
34. OJ4S JM1CAX/JE1JKL 392/2289 = 1.205.008
35. OJ7N YL2KL/YL3DW 382/2392 = 1.196.424
36. OJ3X 5B4ADA/5B4WN 386/2310 = 1.186.950
37. OJ7S N5KO/N1YC 389/2177 = 1.142.882
38. OJ1X K1ZM/N6ZZ 370/2354 = 1.139.230
39. OJ5E OH6EI/OH2XX 402/2059 = 1.131.630
40. OJ1F NT1N/AG9A 397/2101 = 1.105.645
41. OJ5Z F6FGZ/F5NLY 375/2016 = 1.086.750
42. OJ8N YT1AD/YU7NU 359/2335 = 1.069.820
43. OJ7W UA9BA/RN9AO 368/2168 = 1.052.480
44. OJ6K VE7SV/VE7AHA 351/2257 = 1.045.980
45. OJ4A DJ6QT/DL2OBF 347/2166 = 1.005.259
46. OJ1C LU7DW/LU1FAM 322/2335 = 986.930
47. OJ7A PP5JR/PY1KN 333/2263 = 978.021
48. OJ1N EA3AIR/EA3KU 340/2140 = 954.380
49. OJ8L S56M/S57AL 345/1920 = 883.545
50. OJ1W ZS6EZ/ZS4TX 369/1723 = 880.065
51. OJ6Y IK2QEI/I4UFH 339/1921 = 878.349
52. OJ4W UN9LW/UN7LAN 297/1893 = 699.732
Some software used by teams did not count multipliers correctly.
This is the reason why some claimed scores were changed just after
the contest on the scoreboard.
>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Tue Jul 16 15:16:55 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 FINAL RESULTS
Message-ID: <01c22cba$4b3b1e60$LocalHost@default>
The final results of WRTC2002 can be found at www.wrtc2002.org
There'll be more writeups coming up in the near future.
73 Ari, OH1EH
>From n2mg at eham.net Tue Jul 16 12:31:32 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
Message-ID: <200207161431.g6GEVV5r006366@contesting.com>
That page only shows the team mates' calls.
Try this
http://www.wrtc2002.org/results.htm
-Mike N2MG
The following me
ssage was sent by "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org> on Mon, 15 Jul 2002
22:39:15 -0500.
>
> What AHZ asked for was who was who among the OJ calls...
>
> Is this what you are after, Jim....
>
> http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/pos.pl?hpng=WRTC
>
> 73,
> dale, kg5u
>
> >
> > In a message dated 7/15/2002 6:55:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > wd4ahz@gte.net
> > writes:
> >
> >
> > > it's now after 1:30 AM in OH land ... 7 1/2 hours after the
> > Awards Dinner.
> > >
> > > Who won?
> > >
> >
> >
> > Of all the people in the world, I thought you guys in Florida would
> > understand having to wait... and wait... and wait... for the
> > results from a
> > close contest. :-)
> >
> > Only 36 and 2/3 days to go.
> >
> >
> > Jim K8MR
> >
> > (Also waiting to hear)
> >
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>From ken.knopp at verizon.net Tue Jul 16 08:58:25 2002
From: ken.knopp@verizon.net (Ken K7ZUM)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] correction on w7gg's address, three rivers fire
Message-ID: <001601c22cd9$3d05a260$6401a8c0@dslverizon.net>
I have been corrected on W7GG'S e-mail address,
if anybody would like to send a note to Bob about the three rivers fire and his
contest station
the correct address is bob.wruble@verizon.net
was late sunday evening, and I was well pooped out from the weekend experience
!!
73.... Ken.... K7ZUM
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>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Tue Jul 16 16:40:15 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Results - Shortened Version
Message-ID: <01c22cc5$ef48cba0$LocalHost@default>
THE FINAL RESULTS OF WRTC2002:
1. OJ3A N5TJ/K1TO 438/2782 = 1.629.798
2. OJ8E RA3AUU/RV1AW 426/2627 = 1.619.226
3. OJ2V DL2CC/DL6FBL 473/2468 = 1.608.673
4. OJ3R N6MJ/N2NL 436/2705 = 1.560.008
5. OJ8K KQ2M/W7WA 394/2816 = 1.479.470
6. OJ5A VE3EJ/VE7ZO 437/2635 = 1.473.127
7. OJ1M K5ZD/K1KI 457/2519 = 1.469.255
8. OJ6E UT4UZ/UT3UA 416/2637 = 1.468.064
9. OJ5W LY1DS/LY2TA 416/2638 = 1.459.744
10.OJ5M DK3GI/DL1IAO 440/2534 = 1456.840
11.OJ6W OE2VEL/OE9MON 416/2560 = 1.436.448
12.OJ6C RW1AC/RW3QC 395/2776 = 1.414.100
13.OJ5U N6RT/N2NT 432/2435 = 1.412.640
14.OJ8W 9A9A/9A5E 373/2778 = 1.405.837
15.OJ7M SP3RBR/SP8NR 403/2650 = 1.402.440
16.OJ2F N6TJ/N6AA 397/2428 = 1.391.088
17.OJ3T RZ9UA/UA9MA 395/2708 = 1.390.795
18.OJ2H N5RZ/K2UA 410/2559 = 1.388.670
19.OJ8A K1AR/K1DG 432/2382 = 1.382.400
20.OJ2J HA1AG/HA3OV 408/2602 = 1.368.432
21.OJ3N N2IC/K6LL 405/2513 = 1.355.940
22.OJ4M K3LR/N9RV 366/2642 = 1.347.612
23.OJ3D W4AN/K4BAI 389/2530 = 1.347.107
24.OJ2Y UA2FZ/RW4WR 421/2389 = 1.331.623
25.OJ4N ON6TT/ON4WW 416/2260 = 1.301.248
26.OJ2Q YU7BW/YU1ZZ 381/2743 = 1.300.734
27.OJ6X OH1MDR/OH1MM 438/2267 = 1.293.414
28.OJ7C ES5MC/ES2RR 393/2505 = 1.288.254
29.OJ2Z G4PIQ/G4BWP 419/2342 = 1.277.950
30.OJ6N OK2FD/OK2ZU 379/2446 = 1.274.577
31.OJ1S SP7GIQ/SP2FAX 371/2498 = 1.234.317
32.OJ5T SM5IMO/SM3SGP 386/2381 = 1.214.742
33.OJ7X S50A/S59AA 379/2542 = 1.210.147
34.OJ4S JM1CAX/JE1JKL 392/2289 = 1.205.008
35.OJ7N YL2KL/YL3DW 382/2392 = 1.196.424
36.OJ3X 5B4ADA/5B4WN 386/2310 = 1.186.950
37.OJ7S N5KO/N1YC 389/2177 = 1.142.882
38.OJ1X K1ZM/N6ZZ 370/2354 = 1.139.230
39.OJ5E OH6EI/OH2XX 402/2059 = 1.131.630
40.OJ1F NT1N/AG9A 397/2101 = 1.105.645
41.OJ5Z F6FGZ/F5NLY 375/2016 = 1.086.750
42.OJ8N YT1AD/YU7NU 359/2335 = 1.069.820
43.OJ7W UA9BA/RN9AO 368/2168 = 1.052.480
44.OJ6K VE7SV/VE7AHA 351/2257 = 1.045.980
45.OJ4A DJ6QT/DL2OBF 347/2166 = 1.005.259
46.OJ1C LU7DW/LU1FAM 322/2335 = 986.930
47.OJ7A PP5JR/PY1KN 333/2263 = 978.021
48.OJ1N EA3AIR/EA3KU 340/2140 = 954.380
49.OJ8L S56M/S57AL 345/1920 = 883.545
50.OJ1W ZS6EZ/ZS4TX 369/1723 = 880.065
51.OJ6Y IK2QEI/I4UFH 339/1921 = 878.349
52.OJ4W UN9LW/UN7LAN 297/1893 = 699.732
Some softwares used by teams did not count multipliers correctly.
This is the reason why some claimed scores were changed just after
the contest on the scoreboard.
Full WRTC2002 score sheet in Excel-format is available at
www.wrtc2002.org
Ari, OH1EH
>From slazar19 at sgi.net Tue Jul 16 13:21:10 2002
From: slazar19@sgi.net (Spencer Lazar)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NEW/REVISED WRTC 2002 Final Scores
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20020716122110.0084c220@mail.stargate.net>
Commissioner Bud Selig of WRTC 2002 has declared the contest a tie
because all the contestants had run out of qso's.
Spike W9XR
>From dave at egh.com Tue Jul 16 13:28:21 2002
From: dave@egh.com (David Clemons)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Choice of Calls
Message-ID: <00A1104C.BC96C113.44@egh.com>
I'm sure you all noticed that the WRTC2002 hosts had OJ callsigns
assigned, which was the first time they were used in amateur radio
history. Did anyone else figure out why the OJ block was used?
Hints:
- it was done to honor a very famous contester, who originally
cq'ed from the center of US DX Contesting (New England!)
- it was done to honor one of the original organizers of a
very famous state qso party (only %%% more days until the FQP!)
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
>From N5RP at pdq.net Tue Jul 16 12:39:59 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 160 Contest stuff
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020716113915.00b40bf0@pop.pdq.net>
http://www.eham.net/classifieds/detail/55213
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Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From N5RP at pdq.net Tue Jul 16 12:52:28 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Choice of Calls
In-Reply-To: <00A1104C.BC96C113.44@egh.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020716115146.00b86d68@pop.pdq.net>
At 12:28 7/16/2002 -0400, David Clemons wrote:
> I'm sure you all noticed that the WRTC2002 hosts had OJ callsigns
> assigned, which was the first time they were used in amateur radio
> history. Did anyone else figure out why the OJ block was used?
========================>
Ops wore leather gloves that were too tight.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 16 11:15:13 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207161715.g6GHFDX12521@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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NA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
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NA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW LP
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW QRP
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
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NA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB LP
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 16 11:16:03 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207161716.g6GHG3O12530@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA M/S HP
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW LP
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed HP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB HP
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB LP
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
Operators:
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 16 11:21:29 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207161721.g6GHLTs12558@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
VE5RI 527 1214 41 40 24 818,424
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
VE7AVV 0 809 0 40 15 198,960 BCDX Club
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
K4BAI 181 22 0 0 27,632 SECC
K1GU 118 0 28 0 4 24,920 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE5SF 416 562 39 39 18 579,696
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VA6RA 1 180 1 24 39,050
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VA3WN 142 50 13 10 6 26,542
W0ETT 100 2 25 1 7 21,632 Grand Mesa
VE3ANX 116 2 23 1 2 18,240
W1TO 67 12 15 5 12,680 YCCC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
N4WSM 0 29 0 13 4,550 TCG
W4NZ 32 3 9 2 3,300
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
VE3XAX 334 114 37 24 208,864 U-VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
VE3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 56 41 6 9 12 9,870
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From nt5c at texas.net Tue Jul 16 14:06:20 2002
From: nt5c@texas.net (John Warren)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: WRTC2002 Choice of Calls
In-Reply-To: <00A1104C.BC96C113.44@egh.com>
References: <00A1104C.BC96C113.44@egh.com>
Message-ID: <p04330101b95a1ca79f03@EIM-Mac-1.0.7>
>Did anyone else figure out why the OJ block was used?
To honor the man who made the name Hertz famous?
John, NT5C.
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Tue Jul 16 19:10:19 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020716171019.01344d50@pop.vnet.net>
In thinking about the WRTC 2002, the Finns certainly
deserve our thanks for making the playing field as level as
it has ever been by using identical antennas at the same height
over flat terrain within a limited area of Finland. From what
I understand of prior WRTC's, the 2002 edition was a major advance.
However, I've heard of at least one instance of severe
antenna interaction and problems with local power line QRN. Noticing
how poorly some of the excellent teams did in the standings, I cannot
help but believe that there may have been more than one case of
antenna interaction problems at specific sites.
Here are a few thoughts for the 2004 sponsor assuming
someone steps up to the plate. First, repeat the Finns' excellent
idea of identical antennas over flat terrain at the same height within
a limited geographic area, but remove antenna interaction and local
line noise problems from the equation.
How to do this?
1. Locate 50 stations along a remote flat seacoast a set distance
from high tide levels every mile along a 50 mile stretch of isolated
beach. During the summertime, comfort should not be much of a
problem due to temperature. Tents, generators, porta-potties and
coolers could provide what most of us need to survive a 24 hour contest.
We do it all the time in Field Day don't we?
2. Use identical multiband verticals with identical radial systems.
These are simple, inexpensive, easy to erect, and should work very
well near salt water.
3. Use small <1KW generators like the VP8THU/VP8GEO team used...
possibly backed up by UPS in case a referee temporarily forgets to
refuel.
Something like this should remove the variables of antenna
interaction and local power line noise, and I suspect there are
areas (like National Seashores in the US) that are not too far
removed from civilization for other necessary parts of the WRTC
(administrative meetings, awards dinners, etc.).
Something to think about while WRTC is fresh in our minds and
as clubs think about sponsoring the next WRTC in 2004.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From thompson at mindspring.com Tue Jul 16 16:40:50 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
Message-ID: <001f01c22d00$b43642a0$3c1256d1@default>
It seems that with all the effort to provide similar transceiver, location,
and antennas that the same software would be used. And the software should
be tested beforehand.
I always run several different logs through my CQ 160 software each year to
assure its checking OK and get rid of bugs. Writelog authors and
supporters including K9JY say that for each contest you should always set up
a test log and give it a spin before the contest. With N6AA, K5ZD and other
logging experts on hand this should have been fundamental.
I am also concerned that the address for e-mail logs filled up and kicked
back some logs.
Otherwise congratulations to the contestants and sponsors.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From n2mg at eham.net Tue Jul 16 18:46:31 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
Message-ID: <200207162046.g6GKkU5r012628@contesting.com>
I don't think I'd want to be the one to tell a WRTC competitor who has
used CT for 10 years that he has to learn TRLog or SuperDuper or
whatever. I believe it's pretty much the same reasoning behind letting
the ops choose their own radios.
But I agree that the software should have been tested...alas. It'll be
interesting to see just what the bug was.
-Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
on Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:40:50 -0400.
> It seems that with all the effort to provide similar transceiver, location,
> and antennas that the same software would be used. And the software should
> be tested beforehand.
>
> I always run several different logs through my CQ 160 software each year to
> assure its checking OK and get rid of bugs. Writelog authors and
> supporters including K9JY say that for each contest you should always set up
> a test log and give it a spin before the contest. With N6AA, K5ZD and other
> logging experts on hand this should have been fundamental.
>
> I am also concerned that the address for e-mail logs filled up and kicked
> back some logs.
>
> Otherwise congratulations to the contestants and sponsors.
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Wed Jul 17 02:39:30 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DD7@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Winners N5TJ & K1TO
Second RA3AUU & RV1AW
Third DL6FBL & DL2CC
AA & TJ lost a lot from their score, I do not
have details of the reasons, but understanding
is other one used caps lock and the other did not
so some multis were counted twice.
73,
Jukka
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Bill [mailto:k6km@cncnet.com]
> Sent: 16 July, 2002 07:53
> To: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi
> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
>
>
>
> Hei OH-land!
>
> What is happening there?
>
> Please tell us supporters of WRTC02 WHO WON the
> competition!
>
> Obviously there were some scoring problems, most
> notably with N6TJ and N6AA. PLEASE tell us why their
> score decreased as time passed; that should not be possible.
>
> PLEASE tell us why the N5KO/9V1YC score went
> flat in the last few hours.
>
> PLEASE tell us which teams were associated with which
> OJ callsigns!
>
> PLEASE tell us what's going on. To me, the delay in
> reporting results means that POLITICS is coming in
> to play and POLITICS may be more meaningful than
> PERFORMANCE in determing the final results.
>
> PLEASE prove me wrong.
>
> As any one might expect, Team Finland did a wonderful
> job preparing for and hosting WRTC 2002. Thank you
> for that. But WHY have you kept the world in ignorance
> as to the results?
>
> PLEASE TELL US WOT's UP!
>
> Bill K6KM
> also OH2/K6KM and OH0/K6KM
>
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>From 107770.3462 at compuserve.com Tue Jul 16 23:02:36 2002
From: 107770.3462@compuserve.com (James P. Cassidy)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W7GG
Message-ID: <200207162202_MC3-1-6AF-B3EF@compuserve.com>
Just heard that W7GGs buildings were spared in the fire. So just a matter
of putting the station back together.
73 Jim KI7Y
>From llindblom at juno.com Wed Jul 17 03:14:15 2002
From: llindblom@juno.com (Larry L Lindblom)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [TCG] NAQP RTTY - Its Almost Here
Message-ID: <20020717.021415.-1035393.1.LLindblom@juno.com>
Operator are standing by to sign you on to a TCG team for NAQP RTTY. The
event starts this Saturday at 1800 UTC so don't hesitate. Join with us
be you going for broke or only able to play for a few hours. Either way
I'd love to sign you up for a team. For those who want a big score that
is our goal for those that just want to have fun that is also our goal.
And, if you can run a big score and have fun we are 100% in agreement.
Life is too short not to have fun, I know that after a couple of major
illnesses.
Those signed on so far include:
K4GKM
K4RO
W4BCG
N1NB
KE4OAR
N2WK
W5CTV
AI9T
VE9DX
W4OX
W4LC
As you can see there is plenty of room for more. We'll have as many
teams as we can. Come on guys ring those phones off of the wall.
If you emailed me and don't see your call listed, send me another email
as I might of fat fingered it into the trash by mistake.
W0ETC in IA
>From K9GY at K9GY.com Wed Jul 17 04:19:05 2002
From: K9GY@K9GY.com (Eric K9GY)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WAE CW - Get Ready!
Message-ID: <001b01c22d40$bbd43a40$444d180a@9byjx01>
The WAE CW is almost here!
Saturday, 0000z August 10 until Sunday, 2359z August 11th
http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/fedcw.htm
>> ...seven essential changes to the current rules
>> 1. Additional multipliers for EU participants
>> 2. Splitting of the Single OP category into High and Low Power classes
>> 3. Markup of the "unassisted" participants
>> 4. Abolishing the 10-minute QSY rule for Single OPs
>> 5. Non-ambiguous definition of the Multi Single operation
>> 6. Credit for stations outside the contest
>> 7. SWL Category
2001 WAE Club winners (all three modes):
>> Europe: Bavarian Contest Club (DL) 20,380,025
>> Non-Europe: Frankford Radio Club (W3) 17,246,398
Catch the excitement during WAE CW 2002!
73, Eric
>From K9GY at K9GY.com Wed Jul 17 04:48:56 2002
From: K9GY@K9GY.com (Eric K9GY)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WAE CW - S/O USA "Millionaires"
Message-ID: <004001c22d44$e78563e0$444d180a@9byjx01>
Six new additions to the USA S/O WAE CW millionaires!
Yr Call Total Score Qs QTCs Mults
2001 N2NC 1,605,344 1,810 1,726 454
1996 KE2PF 1,499,998 1,706 1,680 443
2001 N4AF 1,442,408 1,690 1,566 443
2001 K3WW 1,328,392 1,579 1,554 424
1996 K1JKS 1,297,728 1,503 1,501 432
------------------------------------------------------
2001 K3NM 1,281,721 1,535 1,524 419 op-LU9AY
2001 K5KG 1,183,217 1,389 1,382 427
2001 AA3B 1,182,384 1,446 1,410 414
1997 KQ2M 1,137,664 1,416 1,400 404
1981 K1GQ 1,128,330 1,393 1,393 405
------------------------------------------------------
1982 W1ZM 1,112,889 1,361 1,360 409
1983 KC1F 1,088,960 1,328 1,328 410
1997 N1BB 1,071,900 1,350 1,350 397
1979 K1PR 1,051,264 1,379 1,373 382
1981 W1ZM 1,041,913 1,420 1,419 367
------------------------------------------------------
1982 KC1F 1,034,838 1,355 1,354 382
1999 W4MYA 1,014,468 1,404 1,383 364
17 USA S/O entries made it over the million mark since 1974.
Become RADIO-ACTIVE in WAE CW 2002!
http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/fedcw.htm
>From ua3ap at mail.ru Wed Jul 17 09:00:11 2002
From: ua3ap@mail.ru (Sergei Kulyov)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Early bird lottery/log confirmation
Message-ID: <E17Ufz1-0009Qu-00@f13.mail.ru>
Hello to everybody
I have couple questions regarding the WRTC-2002 results for non-WRTC
participants.
1. Any idea when the results of "Early bird" lottery will be on the WEB?
2. As others I haven't got the confirmation from the logs@wrtc2002.org address
that my log arrived. Will they publish the list of received logs?
Anyway it was a big pleasure to work the WRTC guys. Made 265 QSO with OJs.
73 es GL, Sergei - UA3AP
>From harry at oh6yf.com Wed Jul 17 10:11:32 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Some new WRTC Photos & Pileup Downloads
References: <200207162202_MC3-1-6AF-B3EF@compuserve.com>
Message-ID: <000601c22d58$cc67ec90$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hello!
There are now some new photos from WRTC 2002 at:
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
You can also find WRTC Pileup recordings in MP3 format there.
73 de Harry OH6YF
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
>From k3ft at erols.com Wed Jul 17 05:57:18 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MD-DC QSO party 10 - 11 August 2002
Message-ID: <3D353F7E.6FC7@erols.com>
MD/DC QSO party is upcoming 10-11 August 2002. See website for Antietam
Radio Assocition W3CWC for details. Site can be found doing search for
W3CWC, MDC QSO PARTY, Antietam Radio Association.
Nice event.. special award for working all 25 MD/DC counties/Baltimore
City. Not an 'iron man' event. Runs from noon local Saturday till
midnight local Saturday and noon local Sunday until 8pm local Sunday.
73
Chuck K3FT
It's same weekend as WAE so you can combine both and have a REALLY good
time!
>From k3ft at erols.com Wed Jul 17 06:08:07 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MDC QSO party website URL
Message-ID: <3D354207.739F@erols.com>
Found it. Can be reached at http://www.w3cwc.org/funcontest.htm
73
Chuck K3FT
>From N5RP at pdq.net Wed Jul 17 08:28:58 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Early Bird Prizes
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020717072744.00b3fec0@pop.pdq.net>
Just received my E-mail notification of my winning an early bird log
submittal prize.
E-mail went to the address I used for submittal, so I was not even aware of
my winning.
WOW !
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Wed Jul 17 09:16:44 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020716171019.01344d50@pop.vnet.net>; from Bill Tippett
on Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 06:10:19PM +0100
References: <1.5.4.32.20020716171019.01344d50@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <20020717081644.D23499@cs.utexas.edu>
On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 06:10:19PM +0100, Bill Tippett wrote:
> In thinking about the WRTC 2002, the Finns certainly
> deserve our thanks for making the playing field as level as
> it has ever been by using identical antennas at the same height
> over flat terrain within a limited area of Finland. From what
> I understand of prior WRTC's, the 2002 edition was a major advance.
>
> However, I've heard of at least one instance of severe
> antenna interaction and problems with local power line QRN. Noticing
> how poorly some of the excellent teams did in the standings, I cannot
> help but believe that there may have been more than one case of
> antenna interaction problems at specific sites.
>
> Here are a few thoughts for the 2004 sponsor assuming
> someone steps up to the plate. First, repeat the Finns' excellent
> idea of identical antennas over flat terrain at the same height within
> a limited geographic area, but remove antenna interaction and local
> line noise problems from the equation.
>
> How to do this?
>
> 1. Locate 50 stations along a remote flat seacoast a set distance
> from high tide levels every mile along a 50 mile stretch of isolated
> beach. During the summertime, comfort should not be much of a
> problem due to temperature. Tents, generators, porta-potties and
> coolers could provide what most of us need to survive a 24 hour contest.
> We do it all the time in Field Day don't we?
>
> 2. Use identical multiband verticals with identical radial systems.
> These are simple, inexpensive, easy to erect, and should work very
> well near salt water.
>
> 3. Use small <1KW generators like the VP8THU/VP8GEO team used...
> possibly backed up by UPS in case a referee temporarily forgets to
> refuel.
Some of us at W1AW/5 tossed around very similar ideas while we were on
standby to operate. One place this could be done is Padre Island
National Seashore on the Gulf coast of Texas. I'm sure there are
places in Florida and the barrier islands of North Carolina that
would work, too.
Drawbacks:
* Random beach-goers walking into RF fields, touching the antennas, etc.
* At least on Padre, there's a lot of vehicle traffic on the beach -
which means ignition noise.
* Texas, Florida, and the Carolinas are all subject to summer thunderstorms
and tropical rains.
* There would be concern about the heat giving the USA and SA operators
an unfair advantage over EU operators.
In any event, I think Florida would make a great host site - the terrain
across the state is very flat, you could robably find enough air-conditioned
operating sites in a 50 kilometer radius, and the Florida Contest Group is
fairly active and involved.
Other places that I think would be great:
* Japan (although, the way things are going, it wouldn't surprise me if
next year there were no Japanese teams invited at all.)
* Australia
* SMC country
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From swca at swbell.net Wed Jul 17 10:33:53 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
References: <001f01c22d00$b43642a0$3c1256d1@default>
Message-ID: <053701c22d9e$fc6f4af0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Dave, K4JRB wrote:
>It seems that with all the effort to
>provide similar transceiver, location,
>and antennas that the same software
>would be used.
No effort was made to "provide similar transceivers," only antennas,
supports and rotators. The competitors were required by the rules to
provide their own radios. Likewise, they were required to provide PCs and
the software of their own choice.
>From what I understand, the sponsors were aware of the scoring problem by
the start of the contest, but they elected to post the inaccurate real-time
scores. Perhaps, they could have responded differently to this. That's
20/20 hindsight now.
>And the software should
>be tested beforehand.
The software was tested. Nevertheless the problem was not detected until
everyone was in too deep. It is just unfortunate, that's all. I'm sure
everyone is learning a lot from this first-time experience of publishing
scores-in-progress during a contest.
I agree with Dave when he says "congratulations to the contestants and
sponsors" for sure! This was the best WRTC yet.
Mark, N5OT
>From frenaye at pcnet.com Wed Jul 17 12:52:48 2002
From: frenaye@pcnet.com (Tom Frenaye)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: [NEWSVHF] ARRL Claimed scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020717114713.025b4d00@204.213.232.3 >
Thought this would be of interest. Talked to N1ND - he says the listing of
logs received will show claimed scores for all ARRL contests - but only after
the log submission deadline has passed.
-- Tom
>To: newsvhf@mailman.qth.net
>From: Ron Klimas WZ1V <wz1v@ntplx.net>
>Subject: [NEWSVHF] ARRL Claimed scores
>Sender: newsvhf-admin@mailman.qth.net
>
>Something new, Reports from the Contest Log Robot extracts claimed scores,
>check out the ones for June:
>http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
>
>-73, Ron WZ1V
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
e-mail: frenaye@pcnet.com YCCC --> http://www.yccc.org/
Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Wed Jul 17 09:59:40 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (Bob Wruble)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W7GG/IARU/ Fire
Message-ID: <00c201c22daa$f5926ee0$eefd3d04@bobhome>
Many of you have sent me notes after reading Ken's (K7ZUM) account of our
adventuire during the IARU test. Thanks to all for their thots and concerns.
In the end my radio QTH was spared by the fast moving forest fire that hit
our area in Centrsl Oregon last Saturday during the IARU test. As in most
forest fires wind speed and direction plays a big role in who is hit or missed.
As Ken pointed out we were told to evacuate Saturday afternoon right in the
middle of the IARU event. At that time it looked like we were in for it but
were
spared. I'm going back to the radio QTH this weekend to start re setting up
the station.
Once again thanks to all for their kind wishes,
de Bob, W7GG, Ai7b, WW7OR
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>From n2nl at yahoo.com Wed Jul 17 10:29:53 2002
From: n2nl@yahoo.com (David Mueller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <20020717081644.D23499@cs.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <20020717162953.65549.qmail@web21402.mail.yahoo.com>
K1TO, WC4E and myself were approached several times in
Finland about the possibility of having the next WRTC
in Florida. Although it would be easy to have
identical stations due to the flat terrain, the
biggest problem in July is the weather. Not only can
it be oppressivly hot to some of the competitors,
there are the thunderstorms which are a daily
occurance this time of year. The percent chance of
having a thunderstorm during the contest probably
exceeds 75%. Required off time could be an option,
however there are times these storms last for hours
and hours which could wipe out a team's chances.
The word from K7LXC at the award dinner were that
there were possible hosts from 4 continents (didn't
specify beyond that) for the next one which most
likely will be held in 2006.
73, Dave N2NL
--- "Kenneth E. Harker" <kharker@cs.utexas.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 06:10:19PM +0100, Bill
> Tippett wrote:
> > In thinking about the WRTC 2002, the Finns
> certainly
> > deserve our thanks for making the playing field as
> level as
> > it has ever been by using identical antennas at
> the same height
> > over flat terrain within a limited area of
> Finland. From what
> > I understand of prior WRTC's, the 2002 edition was
> a major advance.
> >
> > However, I've heard of at least one
> instance of severe
> > antenna interaction and problems with local power
> line QRN. Noticing
> > how poorly some of the excellent teams did in the
> standings, I cannot
> > help but believe that there may have been more
> than one case of
> > antenna interaction problems at specific sites.
> >
> > Here are a few thoughts for the 2004
> sponsor assuming
> > someone steps up to the plate. First, repeat the
> Finns' excellent
> > idea of identical antennas over flat terrain at
> the same height within
> > a limited geographic area, but remove antenna
> interaction and local
> > line noise problems from the equation.
> >
> > How to do this?
> >
> > 1. Locate 50 stations along a remote flat
> seacoast a set distance
> > from high tide levels every mile along a 50 mile
> stretch of isolated
> > beach. During the summertime, comfort should not
> be much of a
> > problem due to temperature. Tents, generators,
> porta-potties and
> > coolers could provide what most of us need to
> survive a 24 hour contest.
> > We do it all the time in Field Day don't we?
> >
> > 2. Use identical multiband verticals with
> identical radial systems.
> > These are simple, inexpensive, easy to erect, and
> should work very
> > well near salt water.
> >
> > 3. Use small <1KW generators like the
> VP8THU/VP8GEO team used...
> > possibly backed up by UPS in case a referee
> temporarily forgets to
> > refuel.
>
> Some of us at W1AW/5 tossed around very similar
> ideas while we were on
> standby to operate. One place this could be done is
> Padre Island
> National Seashore on the Gulf coast of Texas. I'm
> sure there are
> places in Florida and the barrier islands of North
> Carolina that
> would work, too.
>
> Drawbacks:
>
> * Random beach-goers walking into RF fields,
> touching the antennas, etc.
> * At least on Padre, there's a lot of vehicle
> traffic on the beach -
> which means ignition noise.
> * Texas, Florida, and the Carolinas are all subject
> to summer thunderstorms
> and tropical rains.
> * There would be concern about the heat giving the
> USA and SA operators
> an unfair advantage over EU operators.
>
>
> In any event, I think Florida would make a great
> host site - the terrain
> across the state is very flat, you could robably
> find enough air-conditioned
> operating sites in a 50 kilometer radius, and the
> Florida Contest Group is
> fairly active and involved.
>
> Other places that I think would be great:
>
> * Japan (although, the way things are going, it
> wouldn't surprise me if
> next year there were no Japanese teams
> invited at all.)
>
> * Australia
>
> * SMC country
>
> --
>
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> kharker@cs.utexas.edu
> University of Texas at Austin
> Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
> Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central
> Texas DX & Contest Club
> Taylor Hall TAY 2.124
> Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
> Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA
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>From fgrisafi at tin.it Wed Jul 17 19:41:51 2002
From: fgrisafi@tin.it (IT9GSF Fabio Grisafi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IG9A 2002 OP WANTED CQWW 2002
Message-ID: <PMELJIDIKLOKPBNDOFIOCEEFDCAA.fgrisafi@tin.it>
I am looking for a friend to take part in the coming CQWW Contests.
IG9A will be not active as M/M this year but we hope to be QRV all bands
with
Single Op entries.
There is space for a SO/80 meters or SO/160 meters entry for the SSB Contest
and for
a SO/All Band in the CW Contest.
I will operate SO/All band in the SSB Contest and SO/80 in the CW.
It is requested to be in Lampedusa from Oct21 to Oct28 and from Nov21 to
Nov26.
Both periods QRV is a must as I am looking for help to erect antennas and to
take them
down in November.
Goals are:
First place 80 meters SSB with All Time record setting.
One of the first 3 place for SO/ALL SSB.
First place 80 meters CW with All Time record setting.
One of the first 3 place for SO/ALL CW.
Equipments:
We need only a TRX, a rotator and a two elements 40 mts Yagi to complete two
stations.
First station (All bands):
Location: highest point in the island near TV repeater (NO TVI);
KT34XA on a 18 mts tower;
6 el. 15 mts + 5 el. 10 mts Yagi on the second 18 mts aluminum tower;
5 el. 20 mts + 2 el. 40 mts Yagi on the third 18 mts aluminum tower;
80 meters sloopers, 160 mts dipole and sloopers from a 25 meters TV
broadcast tower;
Beverages to W and NW (No other directions possible).
Second station (80 and/or 160 meters):
Location: previous M/M QTH in the north side of the island over a 60 meter
cliff;
Quarter wave vertical with >120 radials;
Several Beverages;
If you are interested please e-mail me directly: fgrisafi@tin.it
73 de Fabio, IT9GSF (One of IG9A 1994-2001).
>From kl7ra at blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov Wed Jul 17 21:51:44 2002
From: kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov (KL7RA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <006a01c22e16$d1e502c0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
>> Here are a few thoughts for the 2004 sponsor assuming
>> someone steps up to the plate. First, repeat the Finns' excellent
>> idea of identical antennas over flat terrain at the same height within
>> a limited geographic area, but remove antenna interaction and local
>> line noise problems from the equation.
>>
>> How to do this?
>>
>> 1. Locate 50 stations along a remote flat seacoast a set distance
>> from high tide levels every mile along a 50 mile stretch of isolated
>> beach.
Or small ships at sea spaced out over some distance, but the cost would
be too much.
I had a great time working the OJ's and found they would pick my call out
very quickly. Conditions here in Alaska were excellent, best I have heard
in years which is odd for July. All the OJ stations usually had the same
signal strength but I also noticed some would have a huge pile and others
not, strange.
Now that's it's over and the contest world has to agree that Dan and Jeff are
indeed the best, I have some questions about the rules the Finns used. Maybe
they could explain to me and the next possible WRTC rule's committee their
logic or thinking.
-- CW and SSB count the same points and no additional multiplier for a second
band mode QSO.
This rule prevents any advantage for a team with equal skills in both
modes.
A team that can do both modes well should be rewarded but this rule says
that a SSB team only can also compete. Is this what we want?
-- Radio A only makes the QSO.
-- Op B can't make QSOs.
-- Op A can not touch radio B
This rule prevents any advantage for a team that can work well together. Two
ops that can read each other's mind and can operate as a team should be
rewarded, but these rules clearly take that away. I assume these rules were
to prevent the "long time together" teams from swamping the playing field,
but again, is this what we want?
73 Rich KL7RA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Jul 17 11:20:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 17Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207171720.g6HHKC613736@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 17Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW LP
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW QRP
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 k 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
FM5GU 0 1492 99 9 609,246
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB LP
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Jul 17 11:20:58 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 17Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207171720.g6HHKwg13745@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 17Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA M/S HP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 8927 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW LP
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed HP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB HP
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From harry at oh6yf.com Wed Jul 17 21:29:10 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Some new WRTC Photos & Pileup Downloads
References: <200207162202_MC3-1-6AF-B3EF@compuserve.com>
<000601c22d58$cc67ec90$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Message-ID: <001a01c22db7$7692ea40$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hi!
I put the rest of the photos of WRTC 2002 to
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
I will still add some more text later but now I have to drive to the
airport.
CU!
Best 73,
Harry
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
>From n2mg at eham.net Wed Jul 17 16:05:09 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. I only
dabbled in the contest, but watching the spots and listening to the
activity at my QTH, the OJ activity seemed far greater on CW than SSB.
In fact, I worked all 52 OJ calls, 48 of them on 20CW, but only 6 or so
on 20SSB.
-Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by "KL7RA" <kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov> on
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:51:44 -0800.
> -- CW and SSB count the same points and no additional multiplier for a second
> band mode QSO.
> This rule prevents any advantage for a team with equal skills in both
> modes.
> A team that can do both modes well should be rewarded but this rule says
> that a SSB team only can also compete. Is this what we want?
>From w5iz at yahoo.com Wed Jul 17 12:42:54 2002
From: w5iz@yahoo.com (Al Baker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
Message-ID: <20020717184254.10886.qmail@web13908.mail.yahoo.com>
Should be in P5. Great exposure to the potential P5
hams and give us all new band countries.
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>From hurl8957 at uidaho.edu Wed Jul 17 13:25:07 2002
From: hurl8957@uidaho.edu (Christopher Hurlbut)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC and IARU
Message-ID: <396620.1026933907814.JavaMail.cpadmin@pipeline.csrv.uidaho.edu>
I hope the next WRTC in 2006 is in a tropical place! Conditions are going to
be horrible I'm sure.
The northern latitudes seemed to luck out this year, as conditions were much
better than normal.
Of course the CW ops are going to do better... everyone knows CW is better than
Fone. :)
-Chris KL9A
http://www.kl7g.org/kl9a <--new IARU sound files
kl9a@qsl.net
>From kl7ra at blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov Thu Jul 18 01:29:24 2002
From: kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov (KL7RA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
>Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
>believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. ///snip
>-Mike N2MG
You're probably right Mike, but during the last few hours of the test
their SSB rates were around five a minute, 300 hour, or more and
I was having some difficulty cracking their ssb piles. The usual
thinking is to double the points for CW and the Finns decided not
to do this.
My thinking is a super ssb op would have some advantage over the
CW op simply because he could go faster, there are more ssb stations
on and more mults. When the rate falls due 100 watts/ low antenna, you
change bands.
The real answer is probably something like it doesn't matter because
no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the strategy at this
level of competition is simply run best rate for score. Having to balance
between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not necessary,
Rich KL7RA
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Wed Jul 17 18:27:56 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>; from
KL7RA on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 12:29:24AM -0800
References: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <20020717172756.S24221@cs.utexas.edu>
On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 12:29:24AM -0800, KL7RA wrote:
> >Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
> >believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. ///snip
>
> >-Mike N2MG
>
> You're probably right Mike, but during the last few hours of the test
> their SSB rates were around five a minute, 300 hour, or more and
> I was having some difficulty cracking their ssb piles. The usual
> thinking is to double the points for CW and the Finns decided not
> to do this.
Doubling the points for CW would be terrible. The WRTC stations
already make more CW QSOs than phone QSOs. Give them double points,
and they'd spend substantially less time on phone than they already do.
> My thinking is a super ssb op would have some advantage over the
> CW op simply because he could go faster, there are more ssb stations
> on and more mults. When the rate falls due 100 watts/ low antenna, you
> change bands.
The actual WRTC results haven't historically supported this hypothesis.
Even in 2000, when the scoring was specifically designed to make CW and
SSB QSOs equally important (by making one's CW or SSB score based upon
a percentage of the highest QSO total made on that mode) the WRTC
operators _still_ on average made more CW QSOs than phone QSOs.
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>From ah3c at frii.com Wed Jul 17 17:55:52 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
YU7BW (OJ2Q) had 254 QSO's on 20 SSB 1st hour!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer, N2MG" <n2mg@eham.net>
To: "[Contest Reflector]" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
> Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
> believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. I only
> dabbled in the contest, but watching the spots and listening to the
> activity at my QTH, the OJ activity seemed far greater on CW than SSB.
> In fact, I worked all 52 OJ calls, 48 of them on 20CW, but only 6 or so
> on 20SSB.
>
> -Mike N2MG
>
> The following message was sent by "KL7RA" <kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov>
on Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:51:44 -0800.
>
> > -- CW and SSB count the same points and no additional multiplier for a
second
> > band mode QSO.
> > This rule prevents any advantage for a team with equal skills in
both modes.
> > A team that can do both modes well should be rewarded but this rule says
> > that a SSB team only can also compete. Is this what we want?
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
>From chris.blakely at verizon.net Wed Jul 17 21:26:10 2002
From: chris.blakely@verizon.net (Chris Blakely)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <003f01c22df1$b7cb08a0$3ad5fea9@christib>
Mike,Rich,
"The real answer is probably something like it doesn't matter because
> no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the strategy at this
> level of competition is simply run best rate for score. Having to balance
> between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not necessary,"
I may be wrong but is there not a CW pileup competition that figures as
part of the final score? There is an spreadsheet on the WRTC web site that
shows K5TJ & K1TO as being the highest scorers in the pileup competition. I
think that in the last WRTC this score was also part of the final standings,
so that a strictly ssb would suffer badly.
Chris, AB1R
----- Original Message -----
From: "KL7RA" <kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov>
To: "[Contest Reflector]" <cq-contest@contesting.com>; "Mike Gilmer, N2MG"
<n2mg@eham.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
> >Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
> >believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. ///snip
>
> >-Mike N2MG
>
> You're probably right Mike, but during the last few hours of the test
> their SSB rates were around five a minute, 300 hour, or more and
> I was having some difficulty cracking their ssb piles. The usual
> thinking is to double the points for CW and the Finns decided not
> to do this.
>
> My thinking is a super ssb op would have some advantage over the
> CW op simply because he could go faster, there are more ssb stations
> on and more mults. When the rate falls due 100 watts/ low antenna, you
> change bands.
>
> The real answer is probably something like it doesn't matter because
> no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the strategy at this
> level of competition is simply run best rate for score. Having to balance
> between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not necessary,
>
> Rich KL7RA
>
>
>
>
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>From k8khz at comcast.net Wed Jul 17 21:31:51 2002
From: k8khz@comcast.net (Sean D. Fleming)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB Vs. CW QSO's in a Contest
Message-ID: <000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
I am not the greatest CW copier at all. I even have to use CWget to copy cy at
speeds sent by contesting stations. But I look at like the subbmision of CW op
K9LA with like 3,100 CW QSo's made in 24 Hours. Then I wonder well can you make
SSB contacts faster than CW contacts and what is it I am lacking to make more
SSB contacts. Is it Filters? Is it Large Antennas? Is it just the lack of
fastness of talking. Put some input in. I need some elmering so that I can win
a contest at some time.
My Shack here is Wire and 100W with a TS-570D(G) But I have been to a station
with a 2el Quad and a 756 Pro. Results are still somewhat not the best yet.
Also Interested to know what do you use to send CW and copy it head or
computer. Tnx.
73's
Sean
K8KHZ
k8khz@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/k8khz
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>From n2mg at eham.net Wed Jul 17 22:28:10 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
<003f01c22df1$b7cb08a0$3ad5fea9@christib>
Message-ID: <002801c22dfa$62767700$3201a8c0@mikehome>
The website says:
"Summercamp PileUp contest for fun results (in Excel file)"
I think the "for fun" part says it all. ;-)
There was a SSB competition as well.
-Mike N2MG
AB1R wrote:
> I may be wrong but is there not a CW pileup competition that figures
as
> part of the final score?
>From n2nl at yahoo.com Wed Jul 17 20:02:24 2002
From: n2nl@yahoo.com (David Mueller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <003f01c22df1$b7cb08a0$3ad5fea9@christib>
Message-ID: <20020718020224.13845.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>
The pileup tapes were for fun only, and didn't
count toward the final score.
As SSB/CW goes, here's my experiences as OJ3R.
For us, QSOs counted the same for CW and SSB.
Europe was worth 1 QSO point, DX 2 points. On the
high bands, SSB rates generally were better, because
you could simply work them faster on phone. However,
most of these were Europe. We were able to work far
more DX (W's) using CW, and thus our QSO Point per
hour was actually higher using that mode when the
bands were open stateside. Also, we worked several
close in backscatter mults we never would have had the
chance to work using SSB.
On 40 and 80, trying to find a hole in the narrow
phone subband with our 100w was nearly impossible
amungst the loud HQ and other EU stations. On the
other hand, we were able to hold our own using CW and
get quite good rates. We only used SSB here to work
new multipliers.
After talking with the top 3 teams, I think they
generally followed the same strategy - they just did
it better than us.
I think that a SSB only team with weak CW skills
would be at a SERIOUS disadvantage at a WRTC with
similar scoring.
73, Dave N2NL
--- Chris Blakely <chris.blakely@verizon.net> wrote:
> Mike,Rich,
> "The real answer is probably something like it
> doesn't matter because
> > no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the
> strategy at this
> > level of competition is simply run best rate for
> score. Having to balance
> > between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not
> necessary,"
>
> I may be wrong but is there not a CW pileup
> competition that figures as
> part of the final score? There is an spreadsheet on
> the WRTC web site that
> shows K5TJ & K1TO as being the highest scorers in
> the pileup competition. I
> think that in the last WRTC this score was also part
> of the final standings,
> so that a strictly ssb would suffer badly.
>
> Chris, AB1R
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "KL7RA" <kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov>
> To: "[Contest Reflector]"
> <cq-contest@contesting.com>; "Mike Gilmer, N2MG"
> <n2mg@eham.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
>
>
> > >Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low
> tribander, I have to
> > >believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to
> compete. ///snip
> >
> > >-Mike N2MG
> >
> > You're probably right Mike, but during the last
> few hours of the test
> > their SSB rates were around five a minute, 300
> hour, or more and
> > I was having some difficulty cracking their ssb
> piles. The usual
> > thinking is to double the points for CW and the
> Finns decided not
> > to do this.
> >
> > My thinking is a super ssb op would have some
> advantage over the
> > CW op simply because he could go faster, there are
> more ssb stations
> > on and more mults. When the rate falls due 100
> watts/ low antenna, you
> > change bands.
> >
> > The real answer is probably something like it
> doesn't matter because
> > no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the
> strategy at this
> > level of competition is simply run best rate for
> score. Having to balance
> > between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not
> necessary,
> >
> > Rich KL7RA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >
>
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
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>From llindblom at juno.com Thu Jul 18 03:21:36 2002
From: llindblom@juno.com (Larry L Lindblom)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [TCG] NAQP RTTY TEAMS
Message-ID: <20020718.022137.-933939.2.LLindblom@juno.com>
NAQP RTTY is drawing near. It is not to late to sign up for a team.
So far the following people have signed on to play on a TCG team in NAQP
RTTY.
W4GKM
K4RO
W4BCG
N1NB
KE4OAR
N2WK
W5CTV
AI9T
VE9DX
W4OX
W4LC
NY1S
KB5BOB
NN4T
VA3WN
VP2EL
8P6SH
W0ETC
It is not to late to add your call to the mix. We welcome one and all no
matter your skill, intended activity level, or geographic location. The
main thing is we want everyone to enjoy the contest any and every way
they can.
Yes, I added my call to the list. My 775 and 756 might be dead but the
trust old TS930S after sitting on a shelf for five years still works in
AFSK mode. For me it will be a back to the basics contest with no
rig/computer interface and having to run SSB filters in AFSK mode. So if
you have been hesitant to join a team for lack of a good RTTY rig let
this be an example of how crazy some of us contesters can be.
Why not join us on a team and have some fun. E-mail me if you would
like to play with us. We'll organize as many teams as we can. As always
if your call is missing from the list please resend your e-mail as I
might of fat fingered it into the trash by mistake,
73 W0ETC LAR in IA
>From w7why at harborside.com Thu Jul 18 03:37:18 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB Vs. CW QSO's in a Contest
References: <000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <3D361BCE.44E5FE7B@harborside.com>
"Sean D. Fleming" wrote:
>Then I wonder well can you make SSB contacts faster than CW >contacts and what
>is it I am lacking to make more SSB contacts.
Hi Sean
I find I can work CW much faster than SSB, mainly because my
hearing is not what it used to be after working 35 years in a
very noisy environment. It is amazing to me how some ops can
pick a call out the first time, considering accents, etc. Most
of the time I have to listen for 2 or 3 transmissions to get a
callsign straight on SSB, but on CW, it's a different story.
Most of the time I just S&P in fone contests. I get tired of
saying "huh?" all the time if trying to run stations :-) 73
Tom W7WHY
>From geoiii at kkn.net Wed Jul 17 21:40:05 2002
From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III - K5TR)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB Vs. CW QSO's in a Contest
In-Reply-To: <000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>;
from Sean D. Fleming on Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 08:31:51PM -0400
References: <000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20020717204005.B23300@loja.kkn.net>
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 08:31:51PM -0400, Sean D. Fleming wrote:
> I am not the greatest CW copier at all. I even have to use CWget to
> copy cy at speeds sent by contesting stations. But I look at like
> the subbmision of CW op K9LA with like 3,100 CW QSo's made in 24
> Hours. Then I wonder well can you make SSB contacts faster than CW
> contacts and what is it I am lacking to make more SSB contacts. Is
> it Filters? Is it Large Antennas? Is it just the lack of fastness of
> talking. Put some input in.
All of those things help.
Normally - all things being equal you can make more
contacts per hour on SSB than you can on CW.
I could go on and on about what things can make a
diffrence but I think the thing you are asking is
"How can I make larger contest scores?"
It helps to have bigger antennas - moving from your
wire to a tribander or quad at 40-60 feet high
would make a big diffrence. Going from 100 watts to
500 or 1000 or 1500 will also help. The antenna will
help more because you will hear more people.
Operating alot of contests also helps - just as in most
things in life the more you practice them the better you get.
Getting on and operating alot will do you more good
than anything else - esp when you are first starting out.
Most of the contest greats did alot of contesting
with poor antennas and equuipment for countless years
before they won their first contest.
When I look at your contest scores here:
http://www.geocities.com/k8khz/contesting.html
I notice two things:
- You have not been doing this contesting thing too long.
- Your scores have improved alot from one year to the next.
(This is really good and what we all strive to do.)
Keep up the good work.
> Pro. Results are still somewhat not the best yet. Also Interested to
> know what do you use to send CW and copy it head or computer. Tnx.
As far as I know all the CW contest winners copy CW with their
head - it just takes practice. Some of us (me) have never really
worked on it hard enough and still can't do CW very well.
You email and my answer reminds me of one of my all time
favorite posts ever made to the CQ-Contest mailing list.
It was a post by N5KO.
In fact I liked it so much I have it saved in my /home directory.
Here it is - if you missed it the first time.
(KR0Y/5 is now N5TJ)
+++++++++ copy of post +++++++++
> If I were in your class, what would I appreciate about your
> ability or technique? Or in other words, what would another
> highly accomplished contester know about your skills that I
> miss because I'm just an awed "apprentice"?
>(If you're too modest to talk about yourself, apply the question
> to the your personal contesting "hero", the guy you vow to beat
> this year.)
In my view, this is one of the true dilemmas of radio contesting.
You, as the hypothetical "apprentice," do not have the knowledge or
experience to be able to appreciate the skills I have developed
that make me the hypothetical "major league contester."
And similarly, I take for granted many of the fundamental skills
that are necessary for you to advance to the next level.
I like to offer up two quotations that sum up my general
beliefs on the topic. The first is from someone in my peer
group, and second is from someone who I would categorize as
a personal contesting hero from my formative years in
contesting, although I doubt he actually knows this :-) ).
"With experience comes knowledge and cunning. I can't stand here
and tell you the secrets, as many of them are second nature to me
now."-KR0Y/5
"The best of the best gained their winning edge practicing the basics
over and over in numerous forgettable events, often using inadequte
radios and second-rate antennas. Discovering how to overcome such
obstacles are lessons never forgotten."-NCJ Profile of N6RO
And now for a bit of a digression:
I have observed many "second tier" (and others down through the
neophyte ranks of) contesters think that there is some set of
winning "tricks" that the "first tier" contesters use to beat them,
and if only someone would let them in on these terrific secrets,
they would be first rate contesters themselves.
These people are setting themselves up for disappointment, because
I'm going to let them in on the biggest secret of all:
"There are no secrets!"
It turns out, as with most things is life, that skill and hard
work pay the most reliable dividends in the long run.
Now for some specific advice. None of these things are mandatory to
win, but collectively they really add up:
o Know the code. 50 WPM conversational is a nice milestone
note: don't try this at home with pencil and paper.
o Know the bands. Nothing like knowing the right band
to be on to improve your score.
o Know your station. Knowing whether or not your station
has the gusto to run people or crack pileups under
given conditions on a given band is a real time saver.
o Stay in the chair. You can't be the loudest station on
the air if you are not on the air.
And now for some general advice:
o Operate a lot. Experience is king.
I learn something every time I operate.
o Solicit advice from a variety of experienced people.
Some of the "experts" will be more compatible with you
on a personal level than others, so shop around and get
a variety of points of view.
To wit, after I post this message, I will get a few notes from
various folks, about half of which will say "I really identified
with what you wrote. You're a genius!" and the other half of
which will say "You're a moron. Get stuffed!"
--Trey, N5KO, HC8N (QSL via AA5BT), WN4KKN/6
+++++++++++++ end of post +++++++++++++++++
--
George Fremin III - K5TR
geoiii@kkn.net
http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>From marc.wullaert3 at pandora.be Thu Jul 18 06:51:51 2002
From: marc.wullaert3@pandora.be (Marc Wullaert)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Vist to TEXAS-HOUSTON
Message-ID: <003d01c22e0e$7ace3770$0401a8c0@on4mamarc>
Hi,
Sorry for the bandwith,but the next two weeks I will
be near Houston Texas on holiday.Anyone I can meet
there in the second week.I have a car overthere.
73/dx
Marc ON4MA
>From swca at swbell.net Wed Jul 17 23:55:30 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <067001c22e0e$f6e13790$0100a8c0@TL01>
Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
Mark, N5OT
>From K9GY at K9GY.com Thu Jul 18 05:20:32 2002
From: K9GY@K9GY.com (Eric K9GY)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
Message-ID: <013201c22e12$ac7912a0$564d180a@9byjx01>
I for one would like to see some continental differences utilized in the next
WRTC.
It appears that EU and US WRTC geographical coverage has been accomplished.
Given that how about Asia or South America?
Maybe China or Asiatic Russia...Argentina or Brazil...
We can "mix it up" by having it in AS or SA?
Although I think it will be a disappointment to have the next WRTC during the
solar minimum
unless the standard setup is going to include nice low band antennas :-)
N5TJ & K1TO could then capture the WRTC Won-All-Continents!
CQ Contest!
>From n0ss at earthlink.net Thu Jul 18 00:30:19 2002
From: n0ss@earthlink.net (Tom Hammond =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=D8SS?=)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [TRLog] Various IARU issues
In-Reply-To: <002e01c22e0e$d071e460$0700000a@slc.teltronics.com>
References: <4.3.2.7.0.20020718005347.003851d0@pop.pacific.net.hk>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020717232535.00b305f0@mail.earthlink.net>
Tom:
>I feel like people are laughing at me when I call QRZ to check for the
>frequency in use before I start a run frequency. Sort of like a scarlett Q
>on my signal Hi Hi.
QRZ? ("who is calling me?") isn't the appropriate Q-signal. QRL? ("Is the
frequency occupied") is more appropriate.
In the heat of a contest, it is sometimes difficult to remember to "QRL"
each time you think you've found a clear freq, I must admit. I try, but
often find myself forgetting, and being chastized for it a bit later...
usually following (or more often DURING) the first CQ. The nice thing is
QSK, so you can hear other activity WHILE you're sending. Thus you can stop
sending as soon as you realize there is traffic on the freq.
In many cases, if I hear a station beginning to CW on the freq. I'm
operating on, I can generally send a couple DAHs, he'll hear me thru his
CQing and stop sending or move.
73,
Tom Hammond N0SS
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Jul 18 01:44:08 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] re CW - dear naysayers - we have proof it works better :-)
Message-ID: <041d01c22e15$c0c01580$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
as a low power mobile in the Florida QSO Party I must say it is far more fun to
run stations on CW than to get bits and pieces of and exchange on SSB....the
operator is indeed more of a factor on CW!
BUT this is WRTC which tests all contest skills including maybe knowing when
conditions are good enough to make SSB a viable option...
Ken says:
The actual WRTC results haven't historically supported this hypothesis.
Even in 2000, when the scoring was specifically designed to make CW and
SSB QSOs equally important (by making one's CW or SSB score based upon
a percentage of the highest QSO total made on that mode) the WRTC
operators _still_ on average made more CW QSOs than phone QSOs.
Probably because it was easier - and hence more productive!
In a low power environment nobody can argue successfully with me that CW isn't
a better node!
This is not because I am a code guy - it is because I know what works in
marginal conditions - anybody can run and be king for a limited amount of any
contest - when the worked is not our oyster (which is the bulk of the contest)
is when we see the beauty of CW - even with marginal copy both ends you can
make it happen, those in the know and any top ten finisher in a CW contest will
tell you he won not by those phenomenal peak Euro hours but the fact that he
had a lot of "average" hours where he was successful at running the "pw"
stations.
When you get great CW ops you get some big numbers...at the low part of the
cycle the score will close (SSB vs. CW) because those that are making QSOs
magically happen under strained conditions are doing it on SSB!
We can talk faster with our mouths than our fingers on the whole...but we hear
CW better and that sir is the most important factor in Dxing or Contesting -
you can;t work em if ya can't copy em!
>From Tropical Florida - hoo wee its hot - tomorrow may break some records!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
knowing when prop is good enough
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>From jpe at UWasa.Fi Thu Jul 18 09:58:47 2002
From: jpe@UWasa.Fi (Jari Perkiömäki)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OI2HQ Lapua photos online
Message-ID: <200207180558.IAA06967@loisto.uwasa.fi>
Hello,
a photo gallery of the SRAL HQ station OI2HQ in Lapua (15 m CW)
is now available for viewing at
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/gallery/
73 de Jari OH6BG
oh6bg@sral.fi
>From samir at totem.se Thu Jul 18 11:27:03 2002
From: samir@totem.se (Samir SP. Popaja)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W6PU article from CQ Magazine
Message-ID: <D68700EE85B31E4290D0AA4AA87726179FBF@RONJA.totem.net>
Hello,
Does someone have a copy of article
published by W6PU, 4 el. dual-driven quad.
I'm interesting in building it.
Thanks.
Samir, SM7VZX
SM7VZX, ex. SM7/T94BO, SM7/4N4BO, 4N4BO, YU4BO, 4N4A
Samir Popaja, SM7VZX
Lettlandsgatan 2B
SE-214 31 Malm?
Sweden
>From n2nl at yahoo.com Thu Jul 18 06:48:05 2002
From: n2nl@yahoo.com (David Mueller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
In-Reply-To: <013201c22e12$ac7912a0$564d180a@9byjx01>
Message-ID: <20020718124805.5514.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>
China and Brazil were both on the rumor list for the
next one. Most people are thinking it will be in
Brazil....
73, Dave
--- Eric K9GY <K9GY@K9GY.com> wrote:
> I for one would like to see some continental
> differences utilized in the next WRTC.
> It appears that EU and US WRTC geographical coverage
> has been accomplished.
>
> Given that how about Asia or South America?
> Maybe China or Asiatic Russia...Argentina or
> Brazil...
> We can "mix it up" by having it in AS or SA?
>
> Although I think it will be a disappointment to have
> the next WRTC during the solar minimum
> unless the standard setup is going to include nice
> low band antennas :-)
>
> N5TJ & K1TO could then capture the WRTC
> Won-All-Continents!
>
> CQ Contest!
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
>
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>From n2mg at eham.net Thu Jul 18 11:00:09 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Secrets, etc...
Message-ID: <200207181300.g6ID085r018372@contesting.com>
There was a lot of traffic on the reflector in Feb 1996 along these
lines. Take a look at the CQ-Contest archives where N5KO's previously
quoted post was made originally.
http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/1996-February/
Look for threads entitled "secrets", "What REALLY makes you good",
and maybe a few others.
Mike N2MG
>From ha5pp at yahoo.com Thu Jul 18 07:27:27 2002
From: ha5pp@yahoo.com (Zoltan Szoke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 in Finland, WRTC 2004 in ...
Message-ID: <20020718132727.17748.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi Contesters,
First of all CONGRATS TO ALL for the super WRTC 2002
in Finland!
I enjoyed the OJs (K4OJ too, hi) fantastic operation
very much.
One thing is sure with WRTC2004: the winners will be
N5TJ/K1TO. :)))))
73
Zoli
HA5PP
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Thu Jul 18 14:35:04 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW works better!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020718123504.00721748@pop.vnet.net>
K4OJ:
>In a low power environment nobody can argue successfully with me that CW
isn't a better node!
This is also true on the low bands. Proof - compare alltime
SOSB records for CW vs SSB on 160-40 in the CQ WW records here:
http://www.cqww.com/intro.htm
CW and SSB weekends use identical rules and are held at similar times of
year, and CW scores vastly exceed SSB scores in most categories. Here
are 160M comparisons used in our RM-10352 Petition for mode segmentation.
Source: http://members.aol.com/k3bu/W160Records.htm
Average all-time CQ 160 Contest record scores, CW versus SSB:
Area/Category: % CW score exceeds SSB
Africa +585
Asia +44
Europe +123
North America +68
USA +30
Oceania +57
South America +212
Multi-operator +31
Low Power (<100W) +63
QRP (<5W) +98
AVERAGE MARGIN: +128%
Source: http://members.aol.com/k3bu/WWRecords.htm
Average all-time CQ WW record scores (SOSB160), CW versus SSB:
Area/Category: % CW score exceeds SSB
Africa -67
Asia +2
Europe +133
N. America +65
Oceania +52
S. America +152
USA +157
AVERAGE MARGIN: +71%
In the extreme conditions on the low bands, CW rules!
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n2mg at eham.net Thu Jul 18 12:14:41 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] For those who like to search the Archives...
Message-ID: <200207181414.g6IEEe5r019397@contesting.com>
I recently ran several searches of the archives on contesting.com.
(For those who don't know where to do this, go to the "List Search" in
the left menu area of http://www.contesting.com)
Unfortunately, that search tool searches ALL the active reflectors on
contesting.com at once (amps, towertalk, cq-contest, etc.) and one
cannot choose to search only, say, "cq-contest". It has been pointed
out that one could add the specific reflector's name to the search
criteria if one wishes to limit the hits to that reflector. This is a
good idea and effective.
However, there seems to be a "gotcha" in that method, for when one
wishes to search, say, cq-contest, and places "cq-contest" in the
search criteria, one will probably not get any hits before March 1997.
This is because the cq-contest archives appeared to change form around
that time - back then the archive pages for each post did not
necessarily have the term "cq-contest" on them anywhere (the new archives have
it in the reflector's navigation links). Delete the
reference to "cq-contest" in the search criteria and posts from back
that far begin appearing in the hit list. But then, of course, so do
posts from all the other reflectors.
73 Mike N2MG
>From swca at swbell.net Thu Jul 18 10:24:09 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why IARU?
References: <191.9fbca00.2a681284@aol.com>
Message-ID: <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
I got a reply to my question "why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the
IARU Radiosport?" which informed me it was important for the WRTC to be held
during a contest in order to keep participation up. Duh (with respect),
that's not what I meant.
I admit it might not have been clear, but my question was not "why does it
need to be wedded to a contest," but why, specifically, the *IARU*?
The IARU Radiosport is certainly not the contest with the greatest
participation.
I was wondering why it couldn't, for instance, be done over 24 hours in the
CQWW or perhaps some other contest-du-jour. Mode issues? Does it really
come down to this?
Certainly it changes enough each time even within the IARU that there is not
really a case for consistency. Is there?
But seriously, the IARU has some liabilities for WRTC as far as I can tell.
Ultimately I would think this event would benefit from consistency, i.e. an
identical event each time, but is this even possible?
Is the WRTC Committee that was formed long ago still at work?
Is the WRTC evolving into such a fantastic, legitimate event that it could
justify its own event? Is this so huge that it could justify retiring
another event to keep the calendar reasonable? Would the I-A-R-Union
themselves consider allowing the Radiosport to get moved out of July and be
re-designed to center on the WRTC? Should the I-A-R-Union actually globally
administrate the WRTC? Should regional qualifying events be held during
this contest in non-WRTC years? Should there be separate CW WRTCs and Phone
WRTCs?
Just wondering.
Mark, N5OT
>From geoiii at kkn.net Thu Jul 18 09:03:46 2002
From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III - K5TR)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW works better!
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020718123504.00721748@pop.vnet.net>; from Bill Tippett
on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 01:35:04PM +0100
References: <1.5.4.32.20020718123504.00721748@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <20020718080346.B28645@loja.kkn.net>
On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 01:35:04PM +0100, Bill Tippett wrote:
> K4OJ:
> >In a low power environment nobody can argue successfully with me that CW
> isn't a better node!
>
> This is also true on the low bands. Proof - compare alltime
> SOSB records for CW vs SSB on 160-40 in the CQ WW records here:
While I will not dispute that CW does better in getting
through the noise on these bands - I think that more of the
score diffrences can be attributed to these problems:
- Lack of ssb frequency alignment on the low bands.
This forces the use of split frequency operation.
- Very limited frequency ranges in some countries.
There is not very much bandwidth to jam the
SSB signals into.
>
> http://www.cqww.com/intro.htm
>
> CW and SSB weekends use identical rules and are held at similar times of
> year, and CW scores vastly exceed SSB scores in most categories. Here
> are 160M comparisons used in our RM-10352 Petition for mode segmentation.
>
160m is the worst for all of the above reasons.
>
> Average all-time CQ WW record scores (SOSB160), CW versus SSB:
>
> Area/Category: % CW score exceeds SSB
> Africa -67
> Asia +2
> Europe +133
> N. America +65
> Oceania +52
> S. America +152
> USA +157
>
> AVERAGE MARGIN: +71%
>
> In the extreme conditions on the low bands, CW rules!
Ditto.
Dont you think the 160 scores might have more to do
with limited band allocations and in some cases no
band allocations on 160 than they
have to do with other factors?
How do QSO totals in the 160m SSB contest compair to the
QSO totals in the CQ 160 CW contest?
(I dont know.)
--
George Fremin III - K5TR
geoiii@kkn.net
http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>From wk6i at twistedoak.com Thu Jul 18 09:13:29 2002
From: wk6i@twistedoak.com (Jeff Stai WK6I)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why IARU?
In-Reply-To: <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
References: <191.9fbca00.2a681284@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020718080740.037e2e50@mail.megapathdsl.net>
At 07:24 AM 7/18/2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
>I admit it might not have been clear, but my question was not "why does it
>need to be wedded to a contest," but why, specifically, the *IARU*?
>
>The IARU Radiosport is certainly not the contest with the greatest
>participation.
Two reactions:
1. Why make it so easy for WRTC to find stations? (I have no personal
knowledge to back this up, but I expect fishing contests do not take place
in a heavily stocked lake...;-)
2. There was plenty of participation this year - I played S&P this year and
never lacked for stations to work (until nightfall, when my inadequate low
band antennas let me down). I'll note that the 'dual mode' nature of IARU
effectively 'doubles' the bands available to play in....
73! - jeff wk6i
Jeff Stai Twisted Oak Winery LLC
Email jds@twistedoak.com
Amateur Radio WK6I
ROC Web Page http://www.rocstock.org/
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Thu Jul 18 11:17:32 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why IARU?
In-Reply-To: <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>; from Mark Beckwith on Thu,
Jul 18, 2002 at 09:24:09AM -0500
References: <191.9fbca00.2a681284@aol.com> <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Message-ID: <20020718101732.E1289@cs.utexas.edu>
On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:24:09AM -0500, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> I was wondering why it couldn't, for instance, be done over 24 hours in the
> CQWW or perhaps some other contest-du-jour. Mode issues? Does it really
> come down to this?
Yes, but it is more than that.
One of the wonderful things about the IARU is that it is (a) not a single
band contest, which forces the teams to think about band changes, and (b)
it is both a CW and SSB contest, which makes it important that a team
excel at both modes. The IARU is by far the largest and most active contest
that meets these two requirements.
Another advantage to IARU is that it is a big contest without being _the_
big contest. A lot of the top contest ops like to be DX during the CQWW,
for instance, and asking the top contesters to give that up for WRTC might
not work. Asking them to plan on taking their summer vacation in the
European countryside or Rio De Janeiro or the beaches of Florida makes the
competition more attractive for the top competitors and judges to attend.
--
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Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From kg2au at stny.rr.com Thu Jul 18 12:31:37 2002
From: kg2au@stny.rr.com (Jimmy Weierich)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB Vs. CW QSO's in a Contest
In-Reply-To: <20020717204005.B23300@loja.kkn.net>
References:
<000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
<20020717204005.B23300@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <a05100300b95c883eb08e@[66.24.254.199]>
>On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 08:31:51PM -0400, Sean D. Fleming wrote:
>
>> I am not the greatest CW copier at all. I even have to use CWget to
>> copy cy at speeds sent by contesting stations. But I look at like
>> the subbmision of CW op K9LA with like 3,100 CW QSo's made in 24
>> Hours. Then I wonder well can you make SSB contacts faster than CW
>> contacts and what is it I am lacking to make more SSB contacts. Is
>> it Filters? Is it Large Antennas? Is it just the lack of fastness of
> > talking. Put some input in.
The scores posted on you're website remind me of my first two years
of contesting, 1995-6. I've made some progress since then, but still
have a long way to go.
As George (K5TR) said, a tribander will make more difference than you
would ever believe.
However, as George also says, the thing that will improve your scores
most is dirt cheap, at least in dollar cost, - hard work and practice!
Listed below is a post that inspired me to improve my skills when I
was at about the stage you are at and beginning to get discouraged of
ever improving. This post was aimed at some posters who were whining,
but also applies to anyone who wants to improve their contesting
skills. Thanks again Rob!
X-Sender: rhummel@204.97.16.3
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To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
From: rhummel@monad.net (Rob Hummel)
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX whining vs winning
Sender: owner-cq-contest@contesting.com
Precedence: bulk
X-Sponsor: W4AN, KM3T, N5KO & AD1C
I've read with interest and horror some of the opinions and statements that
have been put forth on the topic of the WPX and contests in general, how
they're scored, and how they're unfair.
I'm very concerned that new or prospective contesters will read this and get
the impression that the winners got what they got because they're privileged
somehow. That winners are, in essence, cheaters. Because if the winners
weren't cheating, they couldn't have beat all those virtuous losers. That,
in fact, any activity where someone loses is -- by definition -- unfair.
Contesting is competition -- plain and simple. There are no second-place
winners. The term for those who don't win is "loser." There is no shame in
losing. I have been a loser many times. Winning feels good, but losing
educates you. Ask my 6-year old daughter what being a loser means and she'll
tell you without hesitation: it means you have to try harder. No one ever
won a contest by whining.
If you want to be competitive, you must do everything within your power (and
the rules) to maximize your advantages and minimize your disadvantages.
Complaining that a contest is unfair accomplishes nothing except to brand
you as a bitter, dissatisfied, jaded, jealous naysayer.
Ignore advice or whining from folks who don't even participate in the
contest. What can they possibly tell you except how to be a bitter loser? If
you want to win, associate around winners.
If you want to be competitive, you must be positive. Here are some suggestions.
1. Aquire as much knowledge as possible about the contest.
First, learn the rules of the contest. That means knowing the exchange and
the scoring. It also means understanding what strategy you should use to
maximize your score. Figure out how long should you chase a multiplier and
how many Qs do you need to be competitive.
Figure out if a mult or a 3-point qso is more valuable to you toward the end
of the contest. Calculate how many mults you will need to be competitive.
2. Decide where to point your antenna and when.
You must understand how propagation affects your area. Read the propagation
forecasts and make sure you understand them. Know where your greyline goes.
Know when 40m opens and 20m closes. Keep an extra antenna and radio tuned to
popular 10m frequencies (you know them because you researched, right?) to
check for band openings.
3. Study the local competition.
Study the scores, mults, and prefixes worked by those in your area. Call
them or write them and find out their strategies. (Of course, they may not
want to tell you!) Ask for copies of their logs. Study where they pointed
their antennas and when. Find out what bands they favored and why.
Anyone who beats you is in a position to teach you something. Instead of
reviling them, study them. Don't forget the other end of the spectrum. Some
of the most valuable lessons I've learned have come from low-power stations
with wire antennas.
4. Know the field.
Study the contest results from the past 2-3 years. You must know the calls
that were active. You must know if any special DX stations be on. You should
know who you'll be listening for.
You must know the frequencies that JAs can use on 80m. You should know the
40m allocation world-wide. You should know where VKs will be on the low
bands. Instead of figuring out why the contest is unfair, learn how to work it.
5. Improve your station.
Learn the truth about feedline matching, antenna loss, VSWR, directivity,
and gain. That means read and study. That means experiment. That means cut
and try.
Shrug off the myths embraced by the mediocre. Don't listen to people who
tell you that 2:1 SWR is good enough because all the power goes somewhere
eventually. Or that 9913 is lossless at HF. Or that a 1 dB difference in a
signal is unnoticable at either end. Or that connector loss is negligable.
All those statements are lies. Find out why.
Work on your antennas. Nothing is perfect or stays that way. Put up new
antennas. Try wires. Try loops. Try beverages. Try low-noise receive
antennas. Try slopers. Try, try, try. All these antennas are relatively
low-cost.
6. Learn your radio.
All (well, most) of those knobs on your radio have a purpose. Find out what
they do. Read and study the manual. Do you know where the manual is?
If you can quickly set a split frequency, you might be the first to work a
new station of 40m. If you learn how to use those 100+ memories efficiently,
you can stack up big stations and throw your call in rapidly to 2, 5, or
more stations simultaneously.
Get all your filters in place. Get a voice keyer. Learn your DSP. Get a
better mike. Tweak the audio until it sounds crystal clear and with all the
punch of a buzz saw cutting through aluminum. Remember that setting for the
contest, then turn it back to mushy so the boys on 80m don't complain.
7. WORK the contest.
If you're going to work a contest, then, by God, WORK IT. A 48-hour contest
runs for 48 hours. If you want to be competitive, you will run for 48 hours
too. Hey, if you can't, then you can't. But then don't whine about not winning.
The single biggest weapon that a small pistol has is persistance. I've heard
lectures from big guns where they advocate switching bands when your QSO
rate drops below 60/hour. That's okay for a big gun, but here are some
suprising statistics:
* At a rate of 60 Qs/hour, you would work 2,880 stations in a 48-hour contest.
* At 30/hour, you'd work 1,440 stations in a 48-hour contest.
* Even a rate of 15/hour (only one QSO every 4 minutes!), you'd still work
720 stations in 48 hours!
How many Qs did you work in the last contest? I've WON contests where I
didn't make 720 total Qs.
Cherry pickers don't win. If you give up when the time between Qs stretches
out to 4, 6, 10, or more minutes, you give up your competitiveness. A
contesters mettle is measured in the dead of night when calling CQ endlessly
on a seemingly dead band or when tuning 20m or 40m or any other band
straining to pull that next new station out of the noise. (Hint: This is
where 1 dB or less makes all the difference in the world.)
8. Have fun.
Winning is fun. But so is competiting. It's great fun being a part of an
overall event that's larger than some petty self-centered concern about
whether your QTH is "unfairly disadvantaged." If you want to have fun in a
contest, find people who are having fun and do what they're doing. Don't be
poisoned by the facile argument that a contest where everyone isn't a winner
is unfair and unfair is no fun.
Everything is fun if it involves amateur radio.
* I love working SSB, CW, and RTTY contests -- although my skill in each
mode varies widely.
* I love domestic contests. I don't like the spate of non-SASE cards they
generate, but I answer every one -- I will NOT be responsible for
discouraging a ham for a few bucks.
* I love DX contests. Every time I hear GW4BLE or ON4UN or EA7USA it's the
same thrill.
* Everytime someone remembers my call I light up like a little kid. Gosh,
they remember me!
* I love working the all-Bulgaria QSO party and being the only USA entry --
winning with 4 QSOs!
* I highlight my name in every contest result that published. What a thrill!
Any contest I miss I consider a failure. Every contest I make is a victory.
[Conclusion]
If you like contests or think you might, understand that there are hundreds
and thousands of like-minded souls out there who want you to be the best you
can be. We'll help, encourage, and congratulate you for every QSO you make
and every log you submit. Every DX station is looking for you. Every QSL you
get is a thank you.
Ignore the bitter, the miserable, and the perpetually dissatisifed. They're
not your compeitition; they're QRM.
Rob Hummel (WS1A) <rhummel@monad.net>
--
Jimmy Weierich, K2LV, ex KG2AU <kg2au@stny.rr.com>
Vestal, NY USA FN12xa
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Thu Jul 18 12:29:43 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why IARU?
References: <191.9fbca00.2a681284@aol.com> <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Message-ID: <3D36DEE7.9ADDD05F@gte.net>
Mark Beckwith wrote:
> I admit it might not have been clear, but my question was not "why
> does it need to be wedded to a contest," but why, specifically, the
> *IARU*?
A couple thoughts come to mind ...
Contest that allows "mixed mode" - what the WRTC teams will need to
maximize their score.
24 hours - means teams will need to know propagation and what bands to
be on when. They won't get a second chance the next day.
Scoring - we're chasing zones, so not many DXpeditions activating rare
"country multipliers" to distract from the WRTC competitors.
Weather - at least in the Northern Hemisphere (where all previous WRTC's
have been held), it's summertime, which usually means nice weather for
building 52 stations and other "festivities" associated with WRTC.
> Certainly it changes enough each time even within the IARU that there
> is not really a case for consistency. Is there?
>
> But seriously, the IARU has some liabilities for WRTC as far as I can
> tell.
Like what?
> Ultimately I would think this event would benefit from consistency,
> i.e. an identical event each time, but is this even possible?
IARU is consistent ... just like any other contest. And like every
other contest, it varies from year to year, day to day, and from hour to
hour. That's what makes them fun ... one never knows what to expect ...
the better ops adapt to what they are given.
> Is the WRTC evolving into such a fantastic, legitimate event that
> it could justify its own event? Is this so huge that it could
> justify retiring another event to keep the calendar reasonable?
> Would the I-A-R-Union themselves consider allowing the Radiosport to
> get moved out of July and be re-designed to center on the WRTC?
Why? The activity levels are such, that WRTC can fit within IARU. Why
a "new" event with new rules? We'd all work the 52 teams and then go
QRT? That's no fun.
> Should regional qualifying events be held during this contest in
> non-WRTC years?
In other WRTC's, past contest scores were used to select participants,
so every contest is basically a qualifying event!
> Should there be separate CW WRTCs and Phone WRTCs?
No ... a "mixed mode" competition allows the best overall operators to
duke it out ... not just the best CW or SSB ops. If you want to win,
you have to be good in both modes.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"! Yeah, you can tweak it from WRTC to
WRTC, but it's been successful so far since the 1990 running ... why
mess with it?
Ron, WD4AHZ
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Thu Jul 18 17:17:27 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
<001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <3D36EA17.1C9C49EC@directvinternet.com>
"Peter Grillo, Sr." wrote:
>
> YU7BW (OJ2Q) had 254 QSO's on 20 SSB 1st hour!
Well, perhaps one more story. In the late 80s, I and several others
operated the
CQWWSSB from V47. Now, to show the rediculous, we arranged for a top
JA ( think his
name was Yosi ) to be part of our team. Flew him over here at our
expense, ect. Although he did operate other bands, his primary use was
when openings to JA occured in late afternoon. His rate was absolutely
fantastic, over 400+ per hour, and of course, in Japanese.
So that may well be a consideration the next time a team is put
together. Believe me, he had his buddies at home lined up like ducks
in a shooting gallary. No doubt, the discipline of the JAs was also a
factor.
And yes, we did win.
73
ed, k4sb
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Jul 18 13:32:05 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] why pic IARU Radiosport to marry WRTC?
References: <200207181544.g6IFiQ5r020981@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <00a601c22e78$a9d72e40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Re: Why IARU?
Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
Mark, N5OT
My take:
Summary - It is perfect fit - othwer than n0t being at the best time of year
for radio propagation!
Why:
...the event has to take place in the context of another contest - why upset
the two biggees - CQWW and ARRL - they are the Kings
...the event has to be during a contest which allows both phone and cw
operating to be showcased - need I say more
...W's need to be able to work W's and DL's need to be able to work DL's -
when susnspot conditions are low and you have marginalized DXing you still
need rate!
.......is there another bi-modal worldwide event that is on all the HF bands
that will work?
Don't think so!
What do you propose Mark???????????????
Jim, K4OJ
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Thu Jul 18 17:40:16 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW works better!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020718154016.0073befc@pop.vnet.net>
Hi George!
K5TR wrote:
>While I will not dispute that CW does better in getting
through the noise on these bands - I think that more of the
score diffrences can be attributed to these problems:
1 - Lack of ssb frequency alignment on the low bands.
This forces the use of split frequency operation.
2 - Very limited frequency ranges in some countries.
There is not very much bandwidth to jam the
SSB signals into.
1. 40 and 80 must operate split between Region 2 and
Regions 1 & 3 for the most part...but that has not been the case
for 160 which has identical favorable results for CW as on
the other two bands. Of course, I maintain SSB scores on 160
will actually go up if we segment and DX operates split. The
simple reason is that DX will not be buried underneath extremely
strong local US stations continuously CQ-ing on top of them.
2. Part of the problem with SSB is that it is a
bandwidth hog. When you try to crowd an equivalent number
of contesters into the same low band frequencies, the narrow
bandwidth mode will always win. The inverse of this is 10-20
meters where SSB usually wins. On 10 meters, with effectively
no bandwidth limit on either mode, SSB wins by about 50% (my CQ
WW SSB record is 1.464M versus my CW record of 0.965M).
>Dont you think the 160 scores might have more to do
with limited band allocations and in some cases no
band allocations on 160 than they
have to do with other factors?
Not at all. It has more to do with the fact that a
narrow bandwidth mode allows better copy of weak signals
because the narrower bandwidth allows better rejection of
interference, noise, etc. This is the same reason that digital
modes work well in extracting signals from noise. Programs
like WSJT, QRSS/Spectrascan, etc effectively make EXTREMELY narrow
bandwidths using DSP that allow copy even below the noise floor
(of course I personally do not think a computer-to-computer
WSJT or QRSS "QSO" means much but that's another topic!)
>How do QSO totals in the 160m SSB contest compair to the
QSO totals in the CQ 160 CW contest?
(I dont know.)
In general, SSB QSO totals are higher in the CQ 160 SSB,
especially so for stations in the middle of the US, which can be
seen here (CW contintental and USA records listed before SSB on
the same page):
http://members.aol.com/k3bu/W160Records.htm
However, CQ 160 CW SCORES are higher because CW works better for
weak-signal DX resulting in higher multipliers and points/QSO.
BTW, total participation in the CQ 160 SSB and CW is almost
identical, so the difference cannot be explained by activity
levels. In the CQ WW, 160 CW QSO totals are generally higher than
SSB because that contest tends to be more DX to DX (favoring CW's
superiority in working weak DX signals) compared to the CQ 160
which is more weighted to local QSO's (at least in the USA).
73, Bill W4ZV
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Thu Jul 18 15:35:49 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
<001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
<3D36EA17.1C9C49EC@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <3D370A85.3D5A1FBE@gte.net>
K4SB wrote:
> So that may well be a consideration the next time a team is put
> together. Believe me, he had his buddies at home lined up like ducks
> in a shooting gallary.
Which is why this is against WRTC rules!
5. Language
Only English language and common international abbreviations can be
used - both on SSB and CW.
8. Soliciting QSOs
... The operators are not allowed to identify, who they personally
are or which team they are.
Someone speaking Japanese, Russian, etc., would pretty much identify
who the teams are.
Ron
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 18 12:48:44 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Georgia QSO Party This Weekend
Message-ID: <20020718184844.39328.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
Hello Fellow Contesters,
If you had fun chasing OJ's around in IARU last weekend you can have
just as much fun this weekend chasing rovers (and working fixed
stations) in the 159 counties of Georgia. The South East Contest Club
and the Southeastern DX Club invite you to participate in the 2002
version of the Georgia QSO party.
There are two operating periods. 1800Z July 20 - 0359Z July 21 and
1400Z July 21 - 2359Z July 21. 20 hours total. All stations may
operate the full 20 hours. There is an impressive array of plaques that
can be had for alittle bit of work on your part.
Please see the GQP webpage at http://gqp.contesting.com for
the complete rules , list of awards, and downloads for your favorite
logging program. Hope to hear you on and as K4OJ would say "Only 2 more
days until the GQP !"
73's Jeff KU8E
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>From john.devoldere at pandora.be Thu Jul 18 20:03:18 2002
From: john.devoldere@pandora.be (john devoldere, ON4UN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
References: <20020718124805.5514.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005501c22e8d$c7b7e7a0$6201a8c0@RUN1>
... as well as Germany and A61.
John, ON4UN
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Mueller" <n2nl@yahoo.com>
To: "Eric K9GY" <K9GY@K9GY.com>; "Contest Reflector"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
> China and Brazil were both on the rumor list for the
> next one. Most people are thinking it will be in
> Brazil....
>
> 73, Dave
>
> --- Eric K9GY <K9GY@K9GY.com> wrote:
> > I for one would like to see some continental
> > differences utilized in the next WRTC.
> > It appears that EU and US WRTC geographical coverage
> > has been accomplished.
> >
> > Given that how about Asia or South America?
> > Maybe China or Asiatic Russia...Argentina or
> > Brazil...
> > We can "mix it up" by having it in AS or SA?
> >
> > Although I think it will be a disappointment to have
> > the next WRTC during the solar minimum
> > unless the standard setup is going to include nice
> > low band antennas :-)
> >
> > N5TJ & K1TO could then capture the WRTC
> > Won-All-Continents!
> >
> > CQ Contest!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Thu Jul 18 16:39:07 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] speaking of parts prices...
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020718153646.00a5f9a0@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
What's with Heil? They used to have a good reputation for providing small
parts reasonably, but I recently bought a boom clip and a pair of earpads
for a BM-10 from them. The charge was $5.00 for each item, plus $3.00 S&H,
and they arrived USPS in a box with 60 cents postage on it. Yes, I know
about the cost of handling small orders, but I think these prices have it
built in several times over...
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From swca at swbell.net Thu Jul 18 16:26:43 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] World Champion
References: <200207181544.g6IFiQ5r020981@contesting.com>
<00a601c22e78$a9d72e40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <093001c22e99$70df1fa0$0100a8c0@TL01>
I have gotten maybe 2x the number of comments direct to me that have been
aired on cq-contest. I am beginning to see some basic stuff emerge from the
replies.
Everyone agrees (except me, I guess) that the WRTC event must meet these
criteria:
1. It must be an international event
2. It must be on both modes
3. It shouldn't be during an established MAJOR event i.e. CQWW or ARRL
One respondent also pointed out that July basically ensures a good turnout.
I'll buy that. I guess. In the Northern Hemisphere, at least.
Okay, so the IARU fits all these qualifications, but has the glaring
shortcoming of crappy conditions on the low bands.
>What do you propose Mark?
Gosh, now that you ask:
I think the concept of on-site competition for contesting's best should be
substantially more popular. If this were the case, perhaps holding it
during each mode of the CQWW would not be "a pesky annoyance," as many seem
to feel it would be, but - get this - "an honor."
I agree that at the moment this is not practical. However, I know plenty of
guys who already go away (i.e. to foriegn countries at great expense) for
both weekends of the CQWW and have for many years. In fact, many of them
happened to be in Finland last weekend. I think it's all a matter of the
quality of the event, the reputation, and the value of the results. And,
for that matter, the budget. WRTC is a great event, and the Finns took it
to new heights, but it is not "there yet."
One day the value of "world champion" might be more valuable than "winner of
the CQ worldwide." It's not yet.
Oh, and personally, I think it would be better if it were for CW single
operators, but that's just my selfish opinion - I'll take whatever I can
get and WRTC is a huge step in the right direction.
So that's what I am thinking. I'll shut up now for a few more years until
the sunspots come back.
Mark, N5OT
>From swca at swbell.net Thu Jul 18 16:35:06 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Unclear English alert continues
References: <000001c22e63$1c5b2310$6807a8c0@ac7nj>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020718135644.05716c40@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <093c01c22e9a$9c137f80$0100a8c0@TL01>
On this very reflector not an hour ago:
>75-ohm 3/4" CATV hardline...can often be bought for free.
Can you make change for a $0.00?
:)
>From juha.valimaki at lut.fi Fri Jul 19 00:23:53 2002
From: juha.valimaki@lut.fi (Juha Valimaki)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] C5- The Gambia ops needed Cq ww cw 2002
Message-ID: <1027023833.3d3723d9ea6e2@fela.cc.lut.fi>
C53M operators needed cq ww cw 2002
I am looking for more operators to join OH-based team operating from Gambia
(C5) in Cq ww cw 2002. Operating class at the moment seems to be M/S. This is a
suitcase style operation but we will try to have effective directional antennas
also in mult stations. Good low band verticals in the beach are also in the
list.
If interested contact oh9mm@sral.fi for further info.
Scandinavian ops: This is a ?normal? Tj?reborg ?charter trip. We will fly via
Stockholm so joining us could not be any easier. We have also negotiated a
group price...
73
Juha, OH9MM
----
Juha V?lim?ki
Teknologiapuistonkatu 4 A 1 GSM: +358 40 7041433
53850 lappeen Ranta e-mail's: juha.valimaki@lut.fi or oh9mm@sral.fi
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Thu Jul 18 19:11:32 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [TRLog] Various IARU issues
Message-ID: <14b.110b03ba.2a689714@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/18/2002 11:04:02 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
n0ss@earthlink.net writes:
> In the heat of a contest, it is sometimes difficult to remember to "QRL"
> each time you think you've found a clear freq, I must admit.
I program "?" into F6 and "QRL?' into F7. I try to remember to hit F7 every
time I find a new frequency for starting a run. I also use a Dymo Labelmaker
to mark all Function keys.
73, Geo...J75KG/K5KG
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Thu Jul 18 19:30:36 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs to move
to the new modes
and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL agrees)
that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal environments.
Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the noise
threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD applications
and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
73 Dave K4JRB
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Thu Jul 18 19:02:24 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] why pic IARU Radiosport to marry WRTC?
In-Reply-To: <00a601c22e78$a9d72e40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJGECOEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Isn't WRTC a big social event, too?
If it was in with any other big time contest or it's own contest, it seems
to me that that might take away from the social gathering aspects of the
event.
73,
dale, kg5u
>
> Re: Why IARU?
>
> Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
>
>
>
> My take:
>
> Summary - It is perfect fit - othwer than n0t being at the best
> time of year
> for radio propagation!
>
> Why:
>
> ...the event has to take place in the context of another contest
> - why upset
> the two biggees - CQWW and ARRL - they are the Kings
>
> ...the event has to be during a contest which allows both phone and cw
> operating to be showcased - need I say more
>
> ...W's need to be able to work W's and DL's need to be able to work DL's -
> when susnspot conditions are low and you have marginalized DXing you still
> need rate!
>
> .......is there another bi-modal worldwide event that is on all
> the HF bands
> that will work?
>
> Don't think so!
>
> What do you propose Mark???????????????
>
>
> Jim, K4OJ
>
>
>
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>From llindblom at juno.com Fri Jul 19 02:14:41 2002
From: llindblom@juno.com (Larry L Lindblom)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [TCG] NAQP RTTY TEAMS: LAST CALL
Message-ID: <20020719.012111.-625929.3.LLindblom@juno.com>
One more chance for anyone and everyone to join us on a TCG team for NAQP
RTTY. As you can see from those who have signed on the TCG now has an
international line up and welcomes anyone else who wants to have fun to
join us.
The line up so far includes:
W4GKM
K4RO
W4BCG
N1NB
KE4OAR
N2WK
W5CTV
AI9T
VE9DX
W4OX
W4LC
NY1S
KB5BOB
NN4T
VA3WN
PJ2EL
8P6SH
W9HLY
K9SZ
VA7SW
IK0HBN
W0ETC
Twenty-two people have signed on so there will be at least five TCG
teams. Team names under consideration include Hot Dogs, Hound Dogs, Junk
Yard Dogs, Cool Cats, and Alley Cats. Be you a growler or a hisser, be
you full time or part time, be you in the USA or elsewhere you are
welcome to join with us on a team.
Don't miss out on the team competition. E-mail me direct and you can
play with us. As always if your call is missing from the list please
resend your e-mail as I might of fat fingered it into the trash by
mistake.
73 & GL to all
W0ETC in IA
>From k5na at texas.net Fri Jul 19 03:42:30 2002
From: k5na@texas.net (Richard L. King)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719020602.02530b00@pop.texas.net>
2002 IARU Contest
W1AW/5 ARRL Headquarters Station
Location - Central Texas (Austin, Texas area)
CW Phone
Total
Band QSOs Points QSOs Points QSOs
Points Mults
160 177 375 156 296 333
671 11
80 329 771 444 1048 773
1819 27
40 824 2545 760 1778 1584
4323 55
20 1594 5966 2319 7522 3913
13488 87
15 1274 4766 1585 5339 2859
10105 92
10 402 1098 467 1277 869
2375 39
Total 4600 15521 5731 17260 10331
32781 311
Claimed Score: 32,781 x 311 = 10,194,891
This past year has been a busy one here in Central Texas while we prepared
for W1AW/5. Though we were given the W1AW/5 assignment over 3 years ago,
the planning got started in seriousness a year ago immediately after the
2001 IARU.
Six of the premier Central Texas stations agreed to participate - K5NA,
K5TR, N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT. Each of these stations could have been a
powerhouse on any of the bands or modes but the assignments were:
K5NA - 80M CW, 40M CW, & 15M SSB.
K5TR - 80M SSB & 20M SSB
N5CQ - 10M CW
N5TW - 160M CW & 20M CW.
NX5M - 160M SSB & 10M SSB.
W5KFT - 40M SSB & 15M SSB
W5XD wrote a special version of WriteLog for use by the headquarters
stations. Basically the new version allowed us to connect to a central
Internet server that fed QSOs back to all the W1AW/5 sites in real-time.
Each site could always tell what QSOs and mults each of the other band/mode
sites needed. The software also fed the frequencies of the radios back to
everyone to allow each station to move QSOs to other bands easily.
We had a total of about 15 computers set up at all the sites and each ended
up with the same QSO and multiplier numbers at the end of the contest. The
software was really awesome.
The 24 hours of the IARU were noisy because Central Texas was being hit
with wave after wave of thunderstorms. This condition caused high QRM on
all the bands and especially affected the low bands. The thunderstorms had
been occurring for several days before the contest and there was a lot of
flooding in the area. But no W1AW/5 sites were affected by flooding. The
rain static and thunderstorms were another matter.
The thunderstorms forced the N5TW, NX5M, & W5KFT sites to shut down at
different times during the contest as thunder cells passed by. Since the
logging system was real-time and current at all the sites, it was possible
for other sites to start working the vacated band/modes almost immediately
after the affected stations were shut down. A lot of cell phone calls were
made to coordinate this. Later the band/modes were switched back to the
original stations.
Our goal was to beat the old W1AW/p record set by W1AW/4 in 2000. However,
10 meters just didn't have much in the way of good conditions here and we
fell a little short. With sun spots going down, the W1AW/4 record may stand
for a few years. Our secondary goal was to beat NU1AW and the other
headquarters stations. But I haven't heard any other official HQ scores yet.
All the stations owners and operators had a great time doing this. It was
great fun.
Thanks to the K1ZZ and the ARRL for allowing us to do W1AW/5 in this
contest. Also thanks to W5XD for his work developing his terrific software
to support our effort and to AB5K for the special telnet node used
exclusively by all the W1AW/5 stations.
There will be more detailed information and breakdowns of the W1AW/5 effort
available on the net very soon.
73, Richard - K5NA
k5na@texas.net
>From ah3c at frii.com Thu Jul 18 20:14:21 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
<001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
<3D36EA17.1C9C49EC@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000401c22ed1$32833f60$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
I neglected to mention that all QSO's were in English with perfect use of
international phonetics. As referee, it was interesting to pick up the
requests for repeats during this run.....I counted 6! Robert has a great
SSB base voice (like OH2BH, N6TJ, and others). I did not count the number
of YU's worked during this run. I don't have the disk. The referee point
of view will be the subject of an article for NCJ.
----- Original Message -----
From: "K4SB" <hamcat@directvinternet.com>
To: "[Contest Reflector]" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
> "Peter Grillo, Sr." wrote:
> >
> > YU7BW (OJ2Q) had 254 QSO's on 20 SSB 1st hour!
>
> Well, perhaps one more story. In the late 80s, I and several others
> operated the
> CQWWSSB from V47. Now, to show the rediculous, we arranged for a top
> JA ( think his
> name was Yosi ) to be part of our team. Flew him over here at our
> expense, ect. Although he did operate other bands, his primary use was
> when openings to JA occured in late afternoon. His rate was absolutely
> fantastic, over 400+ per hour, and of course, in Japanese.
>
> So that may well be a consideration the next time a team is put
> together. Believe me, he had his buddies at home lined up like ducks
> in a shooting gallary. No doubt, the discipline of the JAs was also a
> factor.
>
> And yes, we did win.
>
> 73
> ed, k4sb
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>From k5zd at charter.net Fri Jul 19 04:35:29 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
In-Reply-To: <200207162046.g6GKkU5r012628@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDGEOLDKAA.k5zd@charter.net>
It is difficult to get logging software perfect for a contest that only
occurs every 2, 4, or 6 years and has different rules each time! N6TR,
K1EA, and W5XD (+SM6SRW) all did extra work to support WRTC. All
competitors were able to successfully log the contest!
What is interesting (and unexpected to me) is all the discussion about
logging software and scoring that has been generated. All of it due to the
online score reporting during the contest! I think we all know how funny
things that impact the score can get into a log during the contest and are
usually repaired before the log is submitted. With the WRTC online
reporting experiment, we got to see just how wildly varying some of these
things can be!
They do nothing to detract from the contest. They do point out some things
that could be further improved for future online score reporting
experiments.
The goal of the online reporting was to make the contest more visible to
everyone. In that regard, it was every bit as successful as had been hoped.
Give OH6KN and his team a pat on the back for pulling it off. It was fun.
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Mike Gilmer, N2MG
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 20:47 PM
> To: CQ-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
>
>
> I don't think I'd want to be the one to tell a WRTC competitor who has
> used CT for 10 years that he has to learn TRLog or SuperDuper or
> whatever. I believe it's pretty much the same reasoning behind letting
> the ops choose their own radios.
>
> But I agree that the software should have been tested...alas. It'll be
> interesting to see just what the bug was.
>
> -Mike N2MG
>
> The following message was sent by "David L. Thompson"
> <thompson@mindspring.com> on Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:40:50 -0400.
>
> > It seems that with all the effort to provide similar
> transceiver, location,
> > and antennas that the same software would be used. And the
> software should
> > be tested beforehand.
> >
> > I always run several different logs through my CQ 160 software
> each year to
> > assure its checking OK and get rid of bugs. Writelog authors and
> > supporters including K9JY say that for each contest you should
> always set up
> > a test log and give it a spin before the contest. With N6AA,
> K5ZD and other
> > logging experts on hand this should have been fundamental.
> >
> > I am also concerned that the address for e-mail logs filled up
> and kicked
> > back some logs.
> >
> > Otherwise congratulations to the contestants and sponsors.
> >
> > 73 Dave K4JRB
>
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>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 18 21:34:08 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
References: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DD7@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Message-ID: <00e601c22ed5$25f7be20$5a2afea9@sbcglobal.net>
Nope. Bug in the software caused all columns to be mis-aligned when station
worked again on subsequent band. Also then counted these as "new HQ mults",
grossly overstating the HQ mults real-time. We knew we could correct the
imbalance post-contest, but unfortunately the G.D. real-time scoreboard was
out there. At least it appears that it gave the old-timers someone to cheer
for.
While the software problem was a major distraction throughout the contest,
no excuses are offered here. We had a great time, a wonderful host/hostess
@ OH2HUH, a FB referee in OH6RX, and a very competitive station. We wish
now we could have a "do-over"!
All-in-all, a not to be missed event, and I hope the next one will be no
more than two years hence.
Our congratulations to all who played, and especially the Top Ten teams,
headed aptly by Jeff and Dan. (And as my wife observes, the most "normal"
guys there. Hmmm.........).
Our OH friends are also to be thanked for the very hard work they put in to
the games. It showed.
73
Jim Neiger
N6TJ ( OJ2F w/ N6AA)
(just off plane from Paris, and too pooped)
----- Original Message -----
From: <jukka.klemola@nokia.com>
To: <k6km@cncnet.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
> Winners N5TJ & K1TO
> Second RA3AUU & RV1AW
> Third DL6FBL & DL2CC
>
> AA & TJ lost a lot from their score, I do not
> have details of the reasons, but understanding
> is other one used caps lock and the other did not
> so some multis were counted twice.
>
> 73,
> Jukka
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ext Bill [mailto:k6km@cncnet.com]
> > Sent: 16 July, 2002 07:53
> > To: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi
> > Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hei OH-land!
> >
> > What is happening there?
> >
> > Please tell us supporters of WRTC02 WHO WON the
> > competition!
> >
> > Obviously there were some scoring problems, most
> > notably with N6TJ and N6AA. PLEASE tell us why their
> > score decreased as time passed; that should not be possible.
> >
> > PLEASE tell us why the N5KO/9V1YC score went
> > flat in the last few hours.
> >
> > PLEASE tell us which teams were associated with which
> > OJ callsigns!
> >
> > PLEASE tell us what's going on. To me, the delay in
> > reporting results means that POLITICS is coming in
> > to play and POLITICS may be more meaningful than
> > PERFORMANCE in determing the final results.
> >
> > PLEASE prove me wrong.
> >
> > As any one might expect, Team Finland did a wonderful
> > job preparing for and hosting WRTC 2002. Thank you
> > for that. But WHY have you kept the world in ignorance
> > as to the results?
> >
> > PLEASE TELL US WOT's UP!
> >
> > Bill K6KM
> > also OH2/K6KM and OH0/K6KM
> >
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>From K4BEV at aol.com Fri Jul 19 00:45:05 2002
From: K4BEV@aol.com (K4BEV@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Solar full-halo eruption
Message-ID: <16f.10c19acd.2a68e541@aol.com>
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/07/17/sun.burst/index.html
Superb photo of a full-halo eruption.
May be some comm problems in our near future though.
K4BEV
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>From k2av at contesting.com Fri Jul 19 00:45:40 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
References: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <007501c22ed6$c09c1a10$0500a8c0@swift>
They can be replaced. When that particular chairman is gone, we will
still be here, sending code. Sounds like he doesn't have enough work
to do.
It's kinda like them telling an old car collector to get his '60
Thunderbird off the road.
PSK31 is growing leaps and bounds, all by itself, no help needed from
the FCC, and CW will remain an art form for a long time.
Voice, anything narrower than SSB around? WHAT new voice mode?
73, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move
> to the new modes
> and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
agrees)
> that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal
environments.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
>
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>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Jul 19 00:06:50 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
In-Reply-To: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207182303030.8752-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
I dunno - it's still a hobby to me. I do it for fun. I've been doing CW
for 35 years because I'm good at it and I think it's fun.
I work with a guy who does Highland games. On some weekends they dress up
in kilts and throw rocks and sticks around. It's a hobby. They do it for
fun. Sure, a mortar can fire a rock farther than he can throw it, but
that isn't as much fun to him.
I'll keep doing CW (and sometimes SSB) and the new digital modes as long
as they continue to be fun to me.
73, Zack W9SZ
On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, David L. Thompson wrote:
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs to move
> to the new modes
> and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL agrees)
> that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal environments.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Fri Jul 19 05:13:26 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
References: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <3D3791E6.670BFBD7@directvinternet.com>
"David L. Thompson" wrote:
The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move
to the new modes and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He
said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in
weak signal environments.
.........
Oh yes, and ARRL also persuaded the FCC to create an absolutely
worthless "new band" on 5+ Mhz. Of course, this is going to mean
literally hundreds of thousands of dollars to the manufacturers. And
no doubt, the ARRL, in all it's wisdom, will pronounce this new band
to be acceptable in contests.
When I flew in the Navy, there was a particular hand signal sometimes
given by a flight leader to their wing man. It is best described a
holding your left hand palm down and horizontal, while making a fist
of your right hand and striking the left hand sharply a couple of
times.
It's meaning is "Get your head out of your ASS!"
73
Ed
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Fri Jul 19 05:18:38 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
<001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
<3D36EA17.1C9C49EC@directvinternet.com>
<000401c22ed1$32833f60$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <3D37931E.76EE60F2@directvinternet.com>
"Peter Grillo, Sr." wrote:
>
> I neglected to mention that all QSO's were in English with perfect use of
> international phonetics. As referee, it was interesting to pick up the
> requests for repeats during this run.>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "K4SB" <hamcat@directvinternet.com>
> > So that may well be a consideration the next time a team is put
> > together. Believe me, he had his buddies at home lined up like ducks
> > in a shooting gallary. No doubt, the discipline of the JAs was also a
> > factor.
In my comment, I now realize that I should have changed the subject.
For some of us, there are other contests besides the WRTC.
73
Ed
>From al_lorona at agilent.com Thu Jul 18 23:26:23 2002
From: al_lorona@agilent.com (al_lorona@agilent.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C1293@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
I know what you mean. I guess it makes little sense to use:
Sails in the age of boats with motors,
Pianos in the age of electronic keyboards,
Cotton in the age of polyester,
Gas stoves in the age of microwave ovens,
Hardy Boys in the age of Harry Potter,
Cash in the age of credit cards,
The local hardware store in the age of Home Depot,
Religion in the age of paganism,
Mozart in the age of Brittney Spears,
Eyeglasses in the age of laser surgery,
Actually going shopping in the age of buying on-line,
and books in the age of computers.
Anything old is bad. Anything new is not only better, but should replace
the old, and nobody should use the old anymore. Cuz it's old. Anyone who
does is just... well... old-fashioned, and is holding back the hobby from
progressing.
I can't believe the chairman made those comments, if he did make those
comments. Isn't it Colin Powell's son, or am I thinking of somebody else?
Dave, where did you get this information?
Al, W6LX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:30 PM
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
>
>
> > The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
> to move
> > to the new modes
> > and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
> agrees)
> > that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal
> environments.
> > Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
> noise
> > threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
> >
> > The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
> applications
> > and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
> >
> > So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
> >
> > 73 Dave K4JRB
>From sm2ekm at telia.com Fri Jul 19 09:26:31 2002
From: sm2ekm@telia.com (Jan Erik Holm)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Various IARU issues
References: <14b.110b03ba.2a689714@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3D37B117.60007@telia.com>
I did learn to ask if the frequency was in use 35 years ago and
just becourse you are in a contest doesn?t make it more difficult.
I always ask 2 - 3 times (usually 3 times) if it?s in use and sometimes
during CQWW when the band is wide open it might take me 5 minutes
to find a frequency I can use since it?s QRL all the time but that?s
part of the battle as far as I see it. If someone then tells me to move
after I?ve made 2 - 3 Q?s I will move but not if someone comes
around after 5 or 10 minutes and claim I took his frequency.
However, even being this carefull (I think I am at least) people
will get angry with me and claim I stole the frequency , you can?t
win all the time. Ofcourse I do make misstakes sometimes, i e if
I get on a frequency let?s say 250 times and follow the above
rutine I might make a misstake a few times, it?s crowded you
are thired and what not so it?s just human.
But bottom line, I don?t understan how people can think it?s
difficult to ask if the frequency is occupied.
Jim SM2EKM
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Georgek5kg@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 7/18/2002 11:04:02 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
>n0ss@earthlink.net writes:
>
>
>>In the heat of a contest, it is sometimes difficult to remember to "QRL"
>>each time you think you've found a clear freq, I must admit.
>>
>
>I program "?" into F6 and "QRL?' into F7. I try to remember to hit F7 every
>time I find a new frequency for starting a run. I also use a Dymo Labelmaker
>to mark all Function keys.
>
>73, Geo...J75KG/K5KG
>
>George I. Wagner, K5KG
>Productivity Resources LLC
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>
>
>
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>From n3bb at mindspring.com Fri Jul 19 03:18:23 2002
From: n3bb@mindspring.com (Jim George)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <v02120d02b95d76e5e01b@EIM-Mac-1.5tcp>
Interesting question.
First off, the WRTC needs to be in a warm climate. It would be tough for
the station and antenna work to be in inclement weather. Second, the WRTC
must be imbedded in some form of contest, otherwise, the rich enviroment of
QSOs and multipliers available would not exist. In addition, the WRTC is
the championship of contesting, and therefore it needs to be in a
contesting environment, with both modes available. The IARU is not any of
the national contests, or regional. Realistically, that leaves the IARU in
the summer (northern hemisphere)as the only alternative The IARU's 24 hour
length is a good compromise between the full 48 hours and shorter
durations. The 24 hour length is important from the consideration of the
hosts and also the competitors and referees. From an overall perspective,
the IARU is a good environment.
Jim N3BB
>Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
>
>Mark, N5OT
>
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>From paul at ei5di.com Fri Jul 19 10:05:23 2002
From: paul@ei5di.com (Paul O'Kane)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
References: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <00a701c22eff$3cf4a780$e5a5fea9@dell>
---- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time
> for amateurs to move to the new modes and leave what he
> considers are obsolete modes.
The new FCC Chairman may not understand how Amateur Radio differs
from all other radio services.
> He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is
> superior to CW in weak signal environments.
This is correct, but it is irrelevant because PSK31, and other
data modes, cannot be decoded by the human ear alone.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals
> are below the noise threshold. Listen to the speaker
> and there is nothing!
Then, whatever it is, it's not amateur radio - pehaps it's amateur
data communications? In my book, if it's not Phone or CW, decoded
by the human ear alone in real-time, then it's not amateur radio.
73,
Paul EI5DI
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 19 11:55:08 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020719095508.00721d28@pop.vnet.net>
K4JRB wrote:
>The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move to the new modes and leave what he considers are obsolete modes.
And exactly what are his credentials? Do you think he has any
idea he knows what he is talking about? I don't.
http://www.fcc.gov/commissioners/powell/mkp_biography.html
Perhaps he would like to demonstrate digital modes are superior by
comparing contest results for existing contests. Here are high-claimed
CQ/RJ WW RTTY scores from last fall's contest:
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/2001-October/029841.html
The highest number of contacts made by any single op was 2461 QSO's
which is not even close to the typical CW or SSB SOAB scores. I even
made more than that myself on 10 meters alone! Isn't it about time
we stop taking these "expert" claims at face value and do a reality
check with the brain God has given us?
>He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW
in weak signal environments.
Then I have a challenge for CQ Magazine Dave. Replace the CQ
160 SSB contest (where SSB has already been proven inferior to CW) with
the CQ 160 PSK31 contest. Let's just see if Chariman Powell and ARRL's
claims are true rather than taking them at face value.
>Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the noise
threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
Sure some of the computer-to-computer modes (PSK31, WSJT, QRSS)
can extract signals below the noise level, but how quickly do you think
they could make contacts? A QRSS contest would be a real blast to hear
at ~0.8 words per hour!
>The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD applications
and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
So what? Most of the human element is being removed from DOD
applications (pilots, operators, etc.) My only question is "What do
you do when the computer or GPS fails?" I suppose whe have also
stopped teaching Commercial Marine captains how to use sextants, but
I wouldn't want to go to sea with one who didn't have one and know how
to use it. Rather than making ourselves totally dependent on technology
(which I am a firm believer in BTW), I would hope we are teaching our
military "what to do when the computer breaks".
>So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
I think it's time we stopped accepting some of the groundless
assertions we are getting from the FCC and ARRL. If we really believe
some digital mode is superior, let's put it to the (con)test, which is
the ultimate test of communicatins under extreme conditions. I have
yet to see any digital mode that would even come close but I would
gladly change my opinion if factually proven otherwise. Opinions from
FCC Chairman Powell just won't do it for me.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 19 12:10:46 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020719101046.0131f554@pop.vnet.net>
EI5DI replied to K4JRB:
**********************************************************************
> He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is
> superior to CW in weak signal environments.
This is correct, but it is irrelevant because PSK31, and other
data modes, cannot be decoded by the human ear alone.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals
> are below the noise threshold. Listen to the speaker
> and there is nothing!
Then, whatever it is, it's not amateur radio - pehaps it's amateur
data communications? In my book, if it's not Phone or CW, decoded
by the human ear alone in real-time, then it's not amateur radio.
**********************************************************************
I couldn't agree more Paul! When we can make a WSJT "QSO"
and submit our "QSL" for DXCC without ever actually having heard a
signal or done anything but look at our comuter screen, what is the
point? Is this amateur radio? I think it's something very close to
the Internet but I thought we already had that. Where is the human
element of hearing a signal with our own ears? It might be the future
but count me out because it frankly holds no interest for me.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 19 09:22:31 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
In-Reply-To: <007501c22ed6$c09c1a10$0500a8c0@swift>
References: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020719081036.02465b50@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 11:45 PM 7/18/02 -0400, Guy Olinger, K2AV wrote:
>They can be replaced. When that particular chairman is gone, we will
>still be here, sending code. Sounds like he doesn't have enough work
>to do.
>
>It's kinda like them telling an old car collector to get his '60
>Thunderbird off the road.
>
>PSK31 is growing leaps and bounds, all by itself, no help needed from
>the FCC, and CW will remain an art form for a long time.
>
>Voice, anything narrower than SSB around? WHAT new voice mode?
The only trouble is that there are only 5 Commissioners, who could decide
to change a lot of things we find important (like abolishing CW
subbands). If this proves to be a true report, then we also have to assume
that the people responsible for advising them on ham matters fed them this
misinformation, and there could be more on the way.
If (again) it's true, I suggest that hams write to the Chairman (copying
the other commissioners), in a calm and respectful manner, pointing out the
continued utility of CW for hams, its spectrum-conserving properties, and
urge him to continue to support this mode. Myself, I would point out the
international good-will aspect of amateur radio's statutory purpose, and
ask whether it makes sense for the FCC to move in directions that would
tend to lessen access of amateurs in lesser-developed countries.
The bottom line, to me, is that it doesn't have to be either-or -- CW can
remain, just like sailboats in an age of jet aircraft...
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From k9iua at yahoo.com Fri Jul 19 07:32:17 2002
From: k9iua@yahoo.com (Kevin Anderson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?)
Message-ID: <20020719133217.46920.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com>
I know I am one confused operator.
I personally found the IARU and WRTC being on
the same weekend to be very confusing. At times
they were talked about in the same breath, and
other times they are talked about separately.
In the end I feel like I never really understood
what went on this last weekend, particularly in
understanding exactly what WRTC was and how these
particular operators come to be associated.
I still am largely a new contest operator, at
least when compared to the experience level that
most of you have acquired. I suspect that there
are many other relatively new contestors who are
confused by the dual (or is that combined?) IARU
and WRTC contests on the same weekend. The
sponsors of both could do much more to help
clarify what is going on.
Cheers/73,
Kevin, K9IUA
=====
-------------------------------------
Kevin Anderson, Dubuque IA USA, K9IUA
k9iua (at) yahoo (dot) com
-------------------------------------
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>From Timothy.Urban at wc.ey.com Fri Jul 19 10:34:43 2002
From: Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com (Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <OF3AAA7286.370F36D6-ON85256BFB.004A2F4C@ey.com>
As a former military hf cw operator, I don't believe the statement about
the DoD is factually true. My connections back at Ft Bragg, home of the
US Army special warfare commo school tell me that cw is still a mandatory
part of the JFK Special Warfare Course.
Don't know anything about commercial marine communication.
73
Tim
N5IIT
cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
07/18/2002 06:30 PM
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
cc:
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs to
move
to the new modes
and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
agrees)
that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal environments.
Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the noise
threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
73 Dave K4JRB
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 19 14:55:15 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Correction: CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020719125515.00728fdc@pop.vnet.net>
I wrote:
>The highest number of contacts made by any single op was 2461 QSO's
which is not even close to the typical CW or SSB SOAB scores.
My apologies to K3MM at P40MM who made 2972 QSO's in the low
power category which will be the new SOABHP World record, but my point
still stands.
73, Bill W4ZV
P.S. I also wrote:
>A QRSS contest would be a real blast to hear at ~0.8 words per hour!
That's 0.0133 WPM CW! ;-)
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Fri Jul 19 10:59:53 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
Message-ID: <120.13682f4a.2a697559@aol.com>
W1AW/5:
Great job guys. It was fun chasing you around the bands...or being chased!
73, George J75KG/K5KG and Fred, J79MM/NA2U
George I. Wagner, K5KG
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 19 08:00:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 19Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207191400.g6JE0Zt15777@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 19Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
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To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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All M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
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All SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 8927 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
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All SO CW LP
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
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All SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
RN4LP 1505 4683 251 24 1,175,433
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 14 463,606 HSDXA
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 k 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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All SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
K1HT 399 123 139 8 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
FM5GU 0 1492 99 9 609,246
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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All SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From n2mg at eham.net Fri Jul 19 12:04:44 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <200207191404.g6JE4i5r009456@contesting.com>
> (FCC Chairman Powell said) Amateurs are working each other with QRP
> where signals are below the noise threshold. Listen to the speaker
> and there is nothing!
Perhaps that's just what the FCC wants - all hams running 100mW with
crappy antennas chatting with their keyboards. No PRB-1, no CC&R
issues, no RFI, no exposure concerns...
Gee, sounds like the Internet, only, um worse!
Mike N2MG
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 19 11:52:16 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
References: <200207191333.g6JDX05r008807@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <00f801c22f33$e4629a20$03010a0a@office1>
I don't know guys, but something of this smells like a red herring that's
been left in the back seat of someone's car for a few days with the windows
up and the temperatures averaging the upper 90's (Farenheit, that is)
I just did a search through some of the news archives. I wanted to see
exactly what Chairman Powell was quoted as saying and in what context.
Guess what? If this happened recently (and I checked as far back as March),
no one seems to have reported it as a news item anywhere.
And isn't it curious that the original post states that this is a quote from
the "new FCC Chairman"? He's been FCC Chairman for quite some time now,
over a year I believe -- hardly new. And he's not mentioned by name.
Neither is the group of amateurs.
So before we jump off the handle and run around screaming at how unfair this
all is, or how it's inevitable, or how this is another ARRL plot to sell
more radios for the manufacturer's by giving us a worthless 5 MHz
allocation, or something else equally or moreso ridiculous, let's find out a
few things:
(a) Exactly who said this?
(b) Exactly when was it said?
(c) Exactly what was said?
(d) Exactly who was it said to?
If we don't know that, not only is this all wild speculation, but it has the
legitimacy of an anonymous email telling you to delete a file off your hard
drive calle AOL.EXE because it's an obvious virus that will destroy your
brain cells. Or something like that.
73, ron wn3vaw
"And they give you cash,
which is just as good as money!"
Yogi Berra, AFLAC Commercial, 2002
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Olinger, K2AV" <k2av@contesting.com>
To: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>,
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
They can be replaced. When that particular chairman is gone, we will
still be here, sending code. Sounds like he doesn't have enough work
to do.
It's kinda like them telling an old car collector to get his '60
Thunderbird off the road.
PSK31 is growing leaps and bounds, all by itself, no help needed from
the FCC, and CW will remain an art form for a long time.
Voice, anything narrower than SSB around? WHAT new voice mode?
73, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move
> to the new modes
> and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
agrees)
> that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal
environments.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
>
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>From wiess at zt.bialap.tpsa.pl Fri Jul 19 17:54:51 2002
From: wiess@zt.bialap.tpsa.pl (Wieslaw SP8SW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Thanks for fun - wrtc2002 fan
Message-ID: <000b01c22f34$3d3789d0$2da3ccc2@LBZ1NZTWS02>
Just ended event I waited last two years beeing fan of my participating in
it friends...
Many thanks to all who contribute to it; it was realy wonderfull HAM
festival in all world...
My illness did not get me chance participate in IARU HF and support them as
much as I hoped...
And now, when I am back at home, I gone to analyse photos and results - just
to experience this great time once again...
And found somethitng what I do not understand - with end classification of
teams...
On results page is linked to Excell file with scores :
http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/scores.xls
In that sheet - why some teams have qso points scored as arithmetic rule and
other not ?!
Seems, for most teams "QSO total" was counted "in mind", and not as Excell
rule ! There seems to be difference 10...104 QSO points - browsing sheet you
may see where is "QSOs total" counted, and where filled manualy..
Why ?
Sorry for this question and for my poor english. I hope it is simple
explanation that I, and many of hams - need know asap (no matter teams
positions..).
My best regards from east Poland
73 de Wies SP8SW (ex SP8NTW)
>From W4EF at dellroy.com Fri Jul 19 08:58:36 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Michael Tope)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
References: <1.5.4.32.20020719095508.00721d28@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <110701c22f34$c2aae620$6501a8c0@1800XP>
This all reminds me of the claims made about Fractal antennas.
Lots of articles were written about how "superior" fractal
antennas were compared with traditional methods of loading.
Oddly enough however, the only article I have ever seen that
made actual apples to apples comparisons between Fractal
and non-fractal loading methods actually showed that Fractals
elements were either the same or in some cases worse than
the non self-similar elements. Same thing goes with PSK31.
People listen to their audio outputs in a 3KHz
bandwidth and then are amazed when the soundcard can decode
signals they can't hear - well duh! A PSK31 signal is about 50
Hz wide, and so is the matched filter in the sound card - thats
about 17dB of additional SNR - no magic. Also, try cranking
up your Alpha to 1.5 KW output while running
PSK31. That is why everyone runs 5 watts, because that's how
far you'll need to back off your MIC gain before people stop
complaining about your IMD levels.
Somebody needs to run actuals link tests on a calibrated test bed
in various noise environments (impulse, gaussian, lightning static)
comparing CW and PSK31 before these assertions can be
verified. Maybe PSK31 does have some advantage, but I have
yet to see anything but anecdotal claims. Sounds like a good
paper for QEX magazine.
73 de Mike, W4EF.............................
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tippett" <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 2:55 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
> K4JRB wrote:
> >The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
> to move to the new modes and leave what he considers are obsolete modes.
>
> And exactly what are his credentials? Do you think he has any
> idea he knows what he is talking about? I don't.
>
> http://www.fcc.gov/commissioners/powell/mkp_biography.html
>
> Perhaps he would like to demonstrate digital modes are superior by
> comparing contest results for existing contests. Here are high-claimed
> CQ/RJ WW RTTY scores from last fall's contest:
>
> http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/2001-October/029841.html
>
> The highest number of contacts made by any single op was 2461 QSO's
> which is not even close to the typical CW or SSB SOAB scores. I even
> made more than that myself on 10 meters alone! Isn't it about time
> we stop taking these "expert" claims at face value and do a reality
> check with the brain God has given us?
>
> >He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW
> in weak signal environments.
>
> Then I have a challenge for CQ Magazine Dave. Replace the CQ
> 160 SSB contest (where SSB has already been proven inferior to CW) with
> the CQ 160 PSK31 contest. Let's just see if Chariman Powell and ARRL's
> claims are true rather than taking them at face value.
>
> >Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> Sure some of the computer-to-computer modes (PSK31, WSJT, QRSS)
> can extract signals below the noise level, but how quickly do you think
> they could make contacts? A QRSS contest would be a real blast to hear
> at ~0.8 words per hour!
>
> >The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So what? Most of the human element is being removed from DOD
> applications (pilots, operators, etc.) My only question is "What do
> you do when the computer or GPS fails?" I suppose whe have also
> stopped teaching Commercial Marine captains how to use sextants, but
> I wouldn't want to go to sea with one who didn't have one and know how
> to use it. Rather than making ourselves totally dependent on technology
> (which I am a firm believer in BTW), I would hope we are teaching our
> military "what to do when the computer breaks".
>
> >So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> I think it's time we stopped accepting some of the groundless
> assertions we are getting from the FCC and ARRL. If we really believe
> some digital mode is superior, let's put it to the (con)test, which is
> the ultimate test of communicatins under extreme conditions. I have
> yet to see any digital mode that would even come close but I would
> gladly change my opinion if factually proven otherwise. Opinions from
> FCC Chairman Powell just won't do it for me.
>
> 73, Bill W4ZV
>
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 19 09:14:39 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Claimed Scores Summary Reminder
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020719080218.00a41c88@pop3.eskimo.com>
Just a reminder because I am getting a lot of questions
as to why certain scores are not in the claimed score summary
even though they have been posted to 3830.
To get your score on the claimed scores please
go to: http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
It even says to do this at the top of each summary :>)
If you cannot go to or use this Web site, let me know and
I will input the data into the form for you. However, I
just cannot afford the time anymore to manually enter all
the data from individual "free style" summaries. Thanks
to Bruce, WA7BNM, the technology is here for a better
way to provide standardized score postings and you can
put just about anything you want in the comment section
(including your "free style" summary).
73 dink, n7wa
p.s. Thanks Bruce - for giving me time for my hobby again :>)
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Fri Jul 19 12:22:57 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719020602.02530b00@pop.texas.net>
Message-ID: <00e201c22f38$299ca140$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Congratulations on a great job representing the USA, Rich.
The Florida Contest Group had a blast two years ago as W1AW/4- you have
taken it to the next level for team USA by interconnecting multiple sites -
hats off to you and W5XD - great achievement - cannot imagine all the
screens in sync at the end of the contest from 6 different sites - WOW!
Talk about knowing who to pass and where to pass them!!!!!
...this was not do-able two years ago but now is history - very very cool -
this is the current level - what will be next? The HQ Radiosport station
offers an opportunity to do this kind of thing (multiple sites) that no
other contest can - and as contesters we all love using technology to stuff
our envelopes to the point of breaking, hi! I know that the logistics of
two years ago were tough - sure would have been nice to gab to "anyone
anywhere" on the network!
Go Team USA!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
& THE Florida Contest Group
FCG #1 WRTC02 - N5TJ + K1TO
FCG #4 WRTC02 - N6MJ + N2NL
...from Sunny Florida where we are awaiting the return from WRTC in Europe
of our President, Dan, K1TO (co- #1) and VP Jeff, WC4E (a referee)
Should the opportunity to operate one of these affairs ever become available
again I would jump at the chance - it was as they say "a hoot" - being a
unique multiplier by just jumping in your car to go to the local MM
station....neat.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard L. King <k5na@texas.net>
To: <3830@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; <ctdxcc@kkn.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:42 PM
Subject: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
> 2002 IARU Contest
>
> W1AW/5 ARRL Headquarters Station
>
> Location - Central Texas (Austin, Texas area)
>
> CW Phone
> Total
> Band QSOs Points QSOs Points QSOs
> Points Mults
>
> 160 177 375 156 296 333
> 671 11
> 80 329 771 444 1048 773
> 1819 27
> 40 824 2545 760 1778 1584
> 4323 55
> 20 1594 5966 2319 7522 3913
> 13488 87
> 15 1274 4766 1585 5339 2859
> 10105 92
> 10 402 1098 467 1277 869
> 2375 39
>
> Total 4600 15521 5731 17260 10331
> 32781 311
>
> Claimed Score: 32,781 x 311 = 10,194,891
>
> This past year has been a busy one here in Central Texas while we prepared
> for W1AW/5. Though we were given the W1AW/5 assignment over 3 years ago,
> the planning got started in seriousness a year ago immediately after the
> 2001 IARU.
>
> Six of the premier Central Texas stations agreed to participate - K5NA,
> K5TR, N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT. Each of these stations could have been
a
> powerhouse on any of the bands or modes but the assignments were:
>
> K5NA - 80M CW, 40M CW, & 15M SSB.
> K5TR - 80M SSB & 20M SSB
> N5CQ - 10M CW
> N5TW - 160M CW & 20M CW.
> NX5M - 160M SSB & 10M SSB.
> W5KFT - 40M SSB & 15M SSB
>
> W5XD wrote a special version of WriteLog for use by the headquarters
> stations. Basically the new version allowed us to connect to a central
> Internet server that fed QSOs back to all the W1AW/5 sites in real-time.
> Each site could always tell what QSOs and mults each of the other
band/mode
> sites needed. The software also fed the frequencies of the radios back to
> everyone to allow each station to move QSOs to other bands easily.
>
> We had a total of about 15 computers set up at all the sites and each
ended
> up with the same QSO and multiplier numbers at the end of the contest. The
> software was really awesome.
>
> The 24 hours of the IARU were noisy because Central Texas was being hit
> with wave after wave of thunderstorms. This condition caused high QRM on
> all the bands and especially affected the low bands. The thunderstorms had
> been occurring for several days before the contest and there was a lot of
> flooding in the area. But no W1AW/5 sites were affected by flooding. The
> rain static and thunderstorms were another matter.
>
> The thunderstorms forced the N5TW, NX5M, & W5KFT sites to shut down at
> different times during the contest as thunder cells passed by. Since the
> logging system was real-time and current at all the sites, it was possible
> for other sites to start working the vacated band/modes almost immediately
> after the affected stations were shut down. A lot of cell phone calls were
> made to coordinate this. Later the band/modes were switched back to the
> original stations.
>
> Our goal was to beat the old W1AW/p record set by W1AW/4 in 2000. However,
> 10 meters just didn't have much in the way of good conditions here and we
> fell a little short. With sun spots going down, the W1AW/4 record may
stand
> for a few years. Our secondary goal was to beat NU1AW and the other
> headquarters stations. But I haven't heard any other official HQ scores
yet.
>
> All the stations owners and operators had a great time doing this. It was
> great fun.
>
> Thanks to the K1ZZ and the ARRL for allowing us to do W1AW/5 in this
> contest. Also thanks to W5XD for his work developing his terrific software
> to support our effort and to AB5K for the special telnet node used
> exclusively by all the W1AW/5 stations.
>
> There will be more detailed information and breakdowns of the W1AW/5
effort
> available on the net very soon.
>
> 73, Richard - K5NA
>
> k5na@texas.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> 3830 mailing list
> 3830@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/3830
>From dennis.mcalpine at verizon.net Fri Jul 19 12:26:05 2002
From: dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net (Dennis McAlpine)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719020602.02530b00@pop.texas.net>
<00e201c22f38$299ca140$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <00aa01c22f38$99c517e0$ad3dca97@oemcomputer>
Yes, Jim, this year's ARRL HQ stations moved things up a bit but look at
some of the Europeans and their geographic diversification. Following their
example, why shouldn't we have stations spread out all over the country,
e.g. K1EA, N2RM, W3LPL, W4MYA, etc. In fact, given the geographic range,
why not have multiple statins on the same band, e.g. a W6 on 80 at the same
time as a W2. OK, so you can't have multiple statios on the same band. How
about a half hour from the East, then a half hour from midwest, then a half
hour from west coast and keep repeating the process. Tht would allow us to
use 36 different stations (6 bands X 2 modes x 3 stations per mode).
Imagine merging those logs.
73,
Dennis K2SX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim White, K4OJ" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <3830@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; <ctdxcc@kkn.net>;
"Richard L. King" <k5na@texas.net>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
> Congratulations on a great job representing the USA, Rich.
>
> The Florida Contest Group had a blast two years ago as W1AW/4- you have
> taken it to the next level for team USA by interconnecting multiple
sites -
> hats off to you and W5XD - great achievement - cannot imagine all the
> screens in sync at the end of the contest from 6 different sites - WOW!
> Talk about knowing who to pass and where to pass them!!!!!
>
> ...this was not do-able two years ago but now is history - very very
cool -
> this is the current level - what will be next? The HQ Radiosport station
> offers an opportunity to do this kind of thing (multiple sites) that no
> other contest can - and as contesters we all love using technology to
stuff
> our envelopes to the point of breaking, hi! I know that the logistics of
> two years ago were tough - sure would have been nice to gab to "anyone
> anywhere" on the network!
>
> Go Team USA!
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, K4OJ
>
> & THE Florida Contest Group
>
> FCG #1 WRTC02 - N5TJ + K1TO
> FCG #4 WRTC02 - N6MJ + N2NL
>
>
> ...from Sunny Florida where we are awaiting the return from WRTC in Europe
> of our President, Dan, K1TO (co- #1) and VP Jeff, WC4E (a referee)
>
>
> Should the opportunity to operate one of these affairs ever become
available
> again I would jump at the chance - it was as they say "a hoot" - being a
> unique multiplier by just jumping in your car to go to the local MM
> station....neat.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard L. King <k5na@texas.net>
> To: <3830@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; <ctdxcc@kkn.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:42 PM
> Subject: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
>
>
> > 2002 IARU Contest
> >
> > W1AW/5 ARRL Headquarters Station
> >
> > Location - Central Texas (Austin, Texas area)
> >
> > CW Phone
> > Total
> > Band QSOs Points QSOs Points QSOs
> > Points Mults
> >
> > 160 177 375 156 296 333
> > 671 11
> > 80 329 771 444 1048 773
> > 1819 27
> > 40 824 2545 760 1778 1584
> > 4323 55
> > 20 1594 5966 2319 7522 3913
> > 13488 87
> > 15 1274 4766 1585 5339 2859
> > 10105 92
> > 10 402 1098 467 1277 869
> > 2375 39
> >
> > Total 4600 15521 5731 17260 10331
> > 32781 311
> >
> > Claimed Score: 32,781 x 311 = 10,194,891
> >
> > This past year has been a busy one here in Central Texas while we
prepared
> > for W1AW/5. Though we were given the W1AW/5 assignment over 3 years ago,
> > the planning got started in seriousness a year ago immediately after the
> > 2001 IARU.
> >
> > Six of the premier Central Texas stations agreed to participate - K5NA,
> > K5TR, N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT. Each of these stations could have
been
> a
> > powerhouse on any of the bands or modes but the assignments were:
> >
> > K5NA - 80M CW, 40M CW, & 15M SSB.
> > K5TR - 80M SSB & 20M SSB
> > N5CQ - 10M CW
> > N5TW - 160M CW & 20M CW.
> > NX5M - 160M SSB & 10M SSB.
> > W5KFT - 40M SSB & 15M SSB
> >
> > W5XD wrote a special version of WriteLog for use by the headquarters
> > stations. Basically the new version allowed us to connect to a central
> > Internet server that fed QSOs back to all the W1AW/5 sites in real-time.
> > Each site could always tell what QSOs and mults each of the other
> band/mode
> > sites needed. The software also fed the frequencies of the radios back
to
> > everyone to allow each station to move QSOs to other bands easily.
> >
> > We had a total of about 15 computers set up at all the sites and each
> ended
> > up with the same QSO and multiplier numbers at the end of the contest.
The
> > software was really awesome.
> >
> > The 24 hours of the IARU were noisy because Central Texas was being hit
> > with wave after wave of thunderstorms. This condition caused high QRM on
> > all the bands and especially affected the low bands. The thunderstorms
had
> > been occurring for several days before the contest and there was a lot
of
> > flooding in the area. But no W1AW/5 sites were affected by flooding. The
> > rain static and thunderstorms were another matter.
> >
> > The thunderstorms forced the N5TW, NX5M, & W5KFT sites to shut down at
> > different times during the contest as thunder cells passed by. Since the
> > logging system was real-time and current at all the sites, it was
possible
> > for other sites to start working the vacated band/modes almost
immediately
> > after the affected stations were shut down. A lot of cell phone calls
were
> > made to coordinate this. Later the band/modes were switched back to the
> > original stations.
> >
> > Our goal was to beat the old W1AW/p record set by W1AW/4 in 2000.
However,
> > 10 meters just didn't have much in the way of good conditions here and
we
> > fell a little short. With sun spots going down, the W1AW/4 record may
> stand
> > for a few years. Our secondary goal was to beat NU1AW and the other
> > headquarters stations. But I haven't heard any other official HQ scores
> yet.
> >
> > All the stations owners and operators had a great time doing this. It
was
> > great fun.
> >
> > Thanks to the K1ZZ and the ARRL for allowing us to do W1AW/5 in this
> > contest. Also thanks to W5XD for his work developing his terrific
software
> > to support our effort and to AB5K for the special telnet node used
> > exclusively by all the W1AW/5 stations.
> >
> > There will be more detailed information and breakdowns of the W1AW/5
> effort
> > available on the net very soon.
> >
> > 73, Richard - K5NA
> >
> > k5na@texas.net
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > 3830 mailing list
> > 3830@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/3830
>
> _______________________________________________
> 3830 mailing list
> 3830@contesting.com
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>From felipe at isla.net Fri Jul 19 12:59:05 2002
From: felipe@isla.net (Felipe J. Hernandez)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <v02120d02b95d76e5e01b@EIM-Mac-1.5tcp>
Message-ID: <000601c22f3d$35669120$4800640a@isla.net>
Just imagine all the money to be spent in marketing to draw the same
amount of participation as a contest like the IARU.
I personally think that the conbination couldn't be better, obviously
under
Low solar activity the site chosen has to be in a location with
propagation advantages.
Maybe Puerto rico Who knows...
Felipe
NP4Z
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim George
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 4:18 AM
To: Mark Beckwith
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Interesting question.
First off, the WRTC needs to be in a warm climate. It would be tough
for
the station and antenna work to be in inclement weather. Second, the
WRTC
must be imbedded in some form of contest, otherwise, the rich enviroment
of
QSOs and multipliers available would not exist. In addition, the WRTC
is
the championship of contesting, and therefore it needs to be in a
contesting environment, with both modes available. The IARU is not any
of
the national contests, or regional. Realistically, that leaves the IARU
in
the summer (northern hemisphere)as the only alternative The IARU's 24
hour
length is a good compromise between the full 48 hours and shorter
durations. The 24 hour length is important from the consideration of
the
hosts and also the competitors and referees. From an overall
perspective,
the IARU is a good environment.
Jim N3BB
>Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
>
>Mark, N5OT
>
>
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>From dhenderson at arrl.org Fri Jul 19 14:26:00 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A couple of reminders about IARU Scores
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC044F918E@kahless.arrlhq.org>
A couple of items...
I. Many contesters sent the WRTC 2002 Committee their logs immediately
after the contest to assist in their adjudication of their event. Many of
those logs sent directly to WRTC were sent before the submitter did their
own "sanity check" on the entry. I have been asked by several stations that
sent their logs to the WRTC for their "early bird" logs to assist in score
of that event if I have received their log from the WRTC 2002 organizing
committee.
The administration of the IARU HF Contest is completely separate from the
WRTC 2002 officials. The WRTC Committee used the early submitted logs to
assist them with their adjudication of their event. They did not screen
logs for any of the information that is needed by the ARRL in order to
accurately report and adjudicate the IARU HF Contest. Receiving logs
directly from WRTC 2002 could leave the ARRL with logs that contained
problems, making them difficult or impossible to use for the official
contest results.
You must send in your IARU HF World Championship to either iaruhf@arrl.org
or iaruhf@iaru.org in order for your results to be included in the official
contest results.
The ARRL Contest Branch will not be receiving the "early bird" logs from
WRTC.
II. Several stations have questioned why the ARRL-SECTION: field is required
in the Cabrillo log header.
The ARRL administers the contest at no cost to the IARU or the other member
societies. The ARRL-SECTION: Field in the header allows us to do several
things which help result in a more accurate reporting of the results. The
ARRL issues awards to stations in the ARRL/RAC Field Organization based on
their official section. So for W/VE stations, we have to have the ARRL
section information in order to determine awards. The use of the term "DX"
in that field for DX stations allows us to sort non-W/VE logs into a
separate queue for processing, reporting, and for determining awards for
non-ARRL or RAC member society stations.
Thanks for your help.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Fri Jul 19 18:51:25 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
References: <200207191333.g6JDX05r008807@contesting.com>
<00f801c22f33$e4629a20$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <3D38519D.B9EAC57C@directvinternet.com>
Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
> I just did a search through some of the news archives. I wanted to see
> exactly what Chairman Powell was quoted as saying and in what context.
> Guess what? If this happened recently (and I checked as far back as March),
> no one seems to have reported it as a news item anywhere.
Well, I saw and read the entire comment also. It was a quote from
Chairman Powell. It very well be it was included in the ARRL letter
sent out every friday to those who subscribe.
Those who have mentioned this are very accurate in their reporting,
and it happened.
Why don't you query the ARRL about it if you are so unable to accept
the word of many
well known and respected hams?
And by the way, I would be very careful in quoting in the signature
file what is undoubably a highly guarded and copywrited commercial.
73
Ed
>From ad1c at yahoo.com Fri Jul 19 14:00:21 2002
From: ad1c@yahoo.com (Jim Reisert)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARLB044 The ARRL Board of Directors convenes July 19-21
in Windsor, Connecticut
Message-ID: <20020719200021.48868.qmail@web13603.mail.yahoo.com>
ZCZC AG44
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 44 ARLB044
>From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT July 19, 2002
To all radio amateurs
SB QST ARL ARLB044
ARLB044 The ARRL Board of Directors convenes July 19-21 in Windsor,
Connecticut
The ARRL Board of Directors convenes July 19-21 in Windsor,
Connecticut, for its mid-year meeting. Among the issues up for
consideration is whether to drop ''Section News'' and contest line
scores from QST and move them to the ARRL Web site. The Board
delayed a decision on the matter at its January meeting, saying it
wanted members to be aware of the reasons behind the proposal and to
evaluate alternative ideas.
Also up for discussion are preparations for World Radiocommunication
Conference 2003, including an update on efforts to secure a 300-kHz
worldwide amateur allocation at 40 meters.
Addressing Board members, guests and ARRL staff members July 18
prior to the formal Board session, FCC Special Counsel for
Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth said that while enforcement will be
''maintaining the course,'' he's hoping by year's end to mount ''a more
aggressive stance'' against 10-meter incursions by unlicensed
individuals. He said that using 10-meters was among the best
defenses against intruders. Hollingsworth also met with ARRL staff
members July 19 to discuss specific areas of concern and
cooperation.
Board members also will consider nominees for several ARRL-sponsored
awards.
NNNN
/EX
=====
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USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
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>From kc1f at adelphia.net Fri Jul 19 21:04:31 2002
From: kc1f@adelphia.net (Stuart Santelmann)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UA1 antennas
Message-ID: <003101c22f57$319984c0$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Hello:
I just got back from WRTC as a referee, and 18 of us continued on to the
post-contest excursion to St. Petersburg in Russia. Some of us spotted some
BIG HF antennas on the roof of a several story building near the "Kissing
Bridge" (it's a long story), and I guess it's also near, or on top of the
Cadet School of something. We saw five or six element monobanders, plus
some other stuff. Anyone know what station this is ? Could it be RU1A ?
Although our tour guide knew everything about the art in the museums, she
didn't know from antennas, hi...
Thanks in advance... Stu KC1F
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 19 17:49:51 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Alleged Powell Statements
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020719164702.04fc36e0@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
For what it's worth, I have just searched the ARRL web site for any
reference to FCC Chairman Powell's comments on CW, without success. It
looks as if all the comments on the reflector are based on an original
message by Dave, K4JRB. Dave, can you pinpoint your source for us?
73, Pete N4ZR
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 19 22:48:39 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] August CQ Magazine Online (sort of)
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020719204839.0073cbe8@pop.vnet.net>
I was searching CQ Magazine's site for an e-mail address
to check my subscription expiration and was quite surprised to
see several new features on the Website for the August issue which
includes the CQ WW SSB results:
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/August%202002%20Highlights.html
"Next, we've got the contest results themselves, with expanded results
here on the CQ website. These include: Expanded "QRM" (operator
comments); Station Operators at Multi-op Stations; Top Scores in Very
Active Zones; Zone Leaders (Single Op); and expanded Team
Contesting results."
Only the 'Expanded QRM' and 'Station Operators at Multi-op Stations'
hyperlinks are active at the moment but I assume the others will be
put online soon. I guess ARRL's expanded online reports have
stimulated CQ to do the same! Thanks CQ!
73, Bill W4ZV
P.S. Now I wonder when the CQ WW Contest Records will be updated?
Some of those records are now 2 years old:
http://www.cqww.com/intro.htm
>From n5nw at n5nw.org Fri Jul 19 18:39:43 2002
From: n5nw@n5nw.org (Marty N5NW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?)
References: <20020719133217.46920.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006a01c22f6e$0fd6ab30$3339a8c0@dayton.hospiceofdayton.org>
Don't be confused ... WRTC is an invitation-only event. Only 42 (41?)
stations participated.
IARU is a world wide "open" event.
We only participate in WRTC as contacts. Our log submissions were, for our
purposes, only checklogs.
The only awards I am aware of were prizes (somewhat random) for submitting a
checklog.
IARU will have rankings of all participants.
Hope this helps ...
de N5NW/8 (Marty)
Bellbrook, Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Anderson" <k9iua@yahoo.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 9:32 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?)
> I know I am one confused operator.
> I personally found the IARU and WRTC being on
> the same weekend to be very confusing. At times
> they were talked about in the same breath, and
> other times they are talked about separately.
> In the end I feel like I never really understood
> what went on this last weekend, particularly in
> understanding exactly what WRTC was and how these
> particular operators come to be associated.
>
> I still am largely a new contest operator, at
> least when compared to the experience level that
> most of you have acquired. I suspect that there
> are many other relatively new contestors who are
> confused by the dual (or is that combined?) IARU
> and WRTC contests on the same weekend. The
> sponsors of both could do much more to help
> clarify what is going on.
>
> Cheers/73,
> Kevin, K9IUA
>
>
> =====
> -------------------------------------
> Kevin Anderson, Dubuque IA USA, K9IUA
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 19 18:55:27 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
Message-ID: <01aa01c22f6f$19eaf8a0$03010a0a@office1>
I was just informed of the recent response to my earlier post. Good thing I
went on-line to see it (I normally only get the digest), although the nature
of that reply is sad.
Since a personal, ah, response like that does not belong on the list but
should be handled direct, let me reply generically since there is some
mis-interpretation of my motive here:
I'm not saying that the quote is neccesarily wrong or inaccurate. Yeah, it
looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, but that doesn't neccesarily mean
it's a duck (it could be a silly rabbit in disguise). For that reason, and
considering the responses on it to date, I went looking for it -- and
couldn't find it.
Could I have missed it? Sure. That's one of the reasons I asked. But the
thing is, if you look at the news items on the ARRL Web Site, you'll notice
that most or all of the news items there end up in the weekly ARRL Letter in
some form or another. And you'd think something like this would qualify as
a news item, wouldn't it?
I've also noticed only the original post from K4JRB actually quotes from
this alleged meeting. Everyone else is replying to it. This is NOT, again,
to say that Dave is wrong -- far from it. But just because a lot of replies
included the original post is hardly the same thing as a bunch of us saying
"yeah, I read that too!"
My point originally was simply to FIND the original comments that Dave was
quoting from IN CONTEXT. Then evaluate the information and make up my own
mind. Otherwise we're dealing with information that is no more reliable
than another internet or urban myth.
So am I now to understand that if I don't agree with the vocal minority I'm
presumed to be against them? That's sad.
The key four questions were never answered: Who said it, who heard it, what
exactly was said, and when. Instead, I got slammed for raising them. That
alone says quite a lot, but let it rest. Suffice to say that if the biggest
argument that was made was criticizing my signature line... really.
Although this suddenly makes another one more relevant for the moment.
Does anyone know the facts, or are we just reacting to a tall tale?
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
I don't know guys, but something of this smells like a red herring that's
been left in the back seat of someone's car for a few days with the windows
up and the temperatures averaging the upper 90's (Farenheit, that is)
I just did a search through some of the news archives. I wanted to see
exactly what Chairman Powell was quoted as saying and in what context.
Guess what? If this happened recently (and I checked as far back as March),
no one seems to have reported it as a news item anywhere.
And isn't it curious that the original post states that this is a quote from
the "new FCC Chairman"? He's been FCC Chairman for quite some time now,
over a year I believe -- hardly new. And he's not mentioned by name.
Neither is the group of amateurs.
So before we jump off the handle and run around screaming at how unfair this
all is, or how it's inevitable, or how this is another ARRL plot to sell
more radios for the manufacturer's by giving us a worthless 5 MHz
allocation, or something else equally or moreso ridiculous, let's find out a
few things:
(a) Exactly who said this?
(b) Exactly when was it said?
(c) Exactly what was said?
(d) Exactly who was it said to?
If we don't know that, not only is this all wild speculation, but it has the
legitimacy of an anonymous email telling you to delete a file off your hard
drive calle AOL.EXE because it's an obvious virus that will destroy your
brain cells. Or something like that.
73, ron wn3vaw
"And they give you cash,
which is just as good as money!"
Yogi Berra, AFLAC Commercial, 2002
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Olinger, K2AV" <k2av@contesting.com>
To: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>,
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
They can be replaced. When that particular chairman is gone, we will
still be here, sending code. Sounds like he doesn't have enough work
to do.
It's kinda like them telling an old car collector to get his '60
Thunderbird off the road.
PSK31 is growing leaps and bounds, all by itself, no help needed from
the FCC, and CW will remain an art form for a long time.
Voice, anything narrower than SSB around? WHAT new voice mode?
73, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move
> to the new modes
> and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
agrees)
> that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal
environments.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
>
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 19 19:07:28 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] August CQ Magazine Online (sort of)
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020719204839.0073cbe8@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020719180621.02456c80@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 09:48 PM 7/19/02 +0100, Bill Tippett wrote:
>I guess ARRL's expanded online reports have
>stimulated CQ to do the same! Thanks CQ!
But note that CQ is apparently reserving the line scores for the magazine,
while after this week's ARRL board meeting I think we can assume that line
scores in QST will be history.
73, Pete N4ZR
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Contest Station Database at
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Fri Jul 19 23:37:33 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UA1 antennas
In-Reply-To: <003101c22f57$319984c0$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020719223701.009f80f0@pop.pdq.net>
At 20:04 7/19/02 +0100, Stuart Santelmann wrote:
>Hello:
>
> I just got back from WRTC as a referee, and 18 of us continued on to the
>post-contest excursion to St. Petersburg in Russia. Some of us spotted some
>BIG HF antennas on the roof of a several story building near the "Kissing
>Bridge" (it's a long story), and I guess it's also near, or on top of the
>Cadet School of something. We saw five or six element monobanders, plus
>some other stuff. Anyone know what station this is ?
===============>
Belongs to a Finnish businessman, as I remember.
Call, I do not know.
Bob Perring
...........................................
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>From john-k1rc at juno.com Fri Jul 19 22:53:17 2002
From: john-k1rc@juno.com (john-k1rc@juno.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
Message-ID: <20020719.215423.-312161.1.john-k1rc@juno.com>
On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:52:16 -0400 "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
writes:
> I don't know guys, but something of this smells like a red herring
> that's been left in the back seat of someone's car for a few days with
the
> windows up and the temperatures averaging the upper 90's (Farenheit,
that
> is)
> ===/Snip/===
Maybe Ron isn't so far off base. Lets look at it yet another way...
Could it be that someone is just testing the waters to see what
the overall the reaction would be, before (the illusive) "THEY"
try to slip some type of rule making to the commissioners
( maybe under the table, disguised in some other docket)?
Like a politician trying to find out what the people think of him
and his views before he sticks his neck out, running for office
and getting hacked to bits.
(Poor example but couldn't think of any other at the moment)
Maybe if this thread didn't generate as much debate, "THEY"
might think;
"These hams don't really care either way, whether we change
the rules, dump CW and SSB and force everyone to use digital
or other more modern modes.
So lets do it and "sock it to 'em" then tell them and listen to
them "whine"after its too late to do anything about it."
I could be wrong, but then again I could be right.......
Just my cynical 2 cents..
CU on the old modes, and any others I have capability for,
John K1RC
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>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Fri Jul 19 23:33:52 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WriteLog] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
Message-ID: <197.a00610a.2a6a2610@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/15/2002 6:16:11 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
n2nu@arrl.net writes:
> I worked three maritime mobile stations in the IARU test and logged them as
> xxnxxx/MM (e.g. SP2AVE/MM). In all cases, these were logged as 0 point
> contacts in my version of WriteLog. I cannot find any reference at all to
> MM stations in the rules, and I would think that these should be logged as
> 5 pointers since they were outside the continent and zone... In one case
> the station gave me a new zone multiplier (which the program counts), even
> though it was still logged as 0 points!
>
> Clarification on the rules, anyone?
>
John,
Did you get an answer to your question about /mm stations. We too worked two
/mm stations, and they were scored as 0 points by WL. One was UT1FG/MM in
zone 46 which did count as a zone multiplier.
73, Geo...
George I. Wagner, K5KG
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>From n5nw at n5nw.org Sat Jul 20 00:57:33 2002
From: n5nw@n5nw.org (Marty N5NW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?)
In-Reply-To: <NCBBIPEKMKEIENBFHFHJMENDFEAA.mjwetzel@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <NGBBIMJEELMGMFPMHEAGIEIFCBAA.n5nw@n5nw.org>
Sri for the error. 52 teams invited to play in WRTC, not 41 or 42 as
mentioned. Point still stands, though. The WRTC is for those guys -- the
rest of us are contact fodder. The IARU is that weekend's contest for the
rest of us.
de N5NW/8
>From rw4pl at mi.ru Sat Jul 20 05:54:22 2002
From: rw4pl@mi.ru (Andrey RW4PL)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UA1 antennas
Message-ID: <200207200454.g6K4sXF97828@mail.melt.ru>
Hello Stuart.
>From: "Stuart Santelmann" <kc1f@adelphia.net>
> We saw five or six element monobanders, plus
>some other stuff. Anyone know what station this is ? Could it be RU1A ?
>Although our tour guide knew everything about the art in the museums, she
>didn't know from antennas, hi...
> Thanks in advance... Stu KC1F
Please see about russian big gans on the : http://www.contest.ru/
Good luck!
Andrey. mail to rw4pl@mi.ru
rw4pl@mail.ru
>From lz4ax at psu.edu Sat Jul 20 02:33:19 2002
From: lz4ax@psu.edu (Alexander Avramov)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UA 1 antennas
Message-ID: <00bb01c22fae$f55bbc00$15a7cb82@computer>
Yeah ! I'm glad to hear they are still there. I was in the same situation like
you exactly 17 years ago - staying on the bridge and staring at the roof -hi.
However, I had the advantage to be more or less fluent in russian and I even
made an attempt to go inside the building. As you can guess, the door keeper
wasn't very happy to see some 17-year old teenager speaking with strange accent
and asking even more strange questions about some stuff on the roof. So I was
told that it's too late (about 6PM) and there is nobody left which evidently
wasn't true -hi. That was my first and last attempt to get in touch with
russian HAMs during my stay there.
So, about your question - the antennas belong to RZ1AWT, the club station at
the State Institute of Aerospace Technology. It's not RU1A but if I'm not
mistaken RU1A team consists mostly of RZ1AWT members. RU1A is strictly a
contest site and is situated out of the sity, so I'm wondering why the
organizers of this excursion didn't arrange something with RU1A gang - it could
have been really interesting, at least this the biggest MS in this part of
Europe. Actually 2 guys from RU1A - RW1AC and RV1AW were among WRTC contesters.
Well, I hope you enjoyed your stay in the world's most beautiful city (sorry
Paris, you're still far behind) and you'll keep good memories of that.
73,
Alex LZ4AX/AA3AX
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Sat Jul 20 03:33:27 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] the Eagle and the TOad have landed
Message-ID: <01f601c22fb7$5ba8b960$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
A small group of about a dozen enthusiastic members and friends of the
Florida Contest Group met WC4 E and K1 TO as they landed in Tampa tonight -
I mean this morning...
WC4E was a referee at the WRTC in Finland this year and as we all know K1TO
was again co-champion with N5TJ...
The bleary eyed duo having been flying for 21 hours was greeted with posters
balloons and official hoopla!
Thanks to all the FCG members who made it out tonight - and stayed despite
their flight being delayed for over three hours...
I think they couldn't get off the ground in Philadelphia because the
Frankford Radio Club was plotting to steal K1TO away from the FCG - not a
chance!
Welcome Home Jeff The Ref and Dan The Man
K4FCG
>From yt3t at absolutok.net Sat Jul 20 09:32:00 2002
From: yt3t@absolutok.net (Kele YT3T)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: UA1 antennas
References: <200207200238.g6K2c25r019631@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <002601c22fb7$30615140$9be45d50@jstajcic>
> Cadet School of something. We saw five or six element monobanders, plus
> some other stuff. Anyone know what station this is ? Could it be RU1A ?
<kc1f>
Hi Stu,
if you have ever checked score submissions by RU1A, you would not make such
underestimates of their antennas.
It is obvious that, when using indoor dipole made of copper tape sticked to
the window, one forgets that EVEN UA1 can run 4x5 ele H framed stacked yagis
on 15m band, or monster 40m yagi... :-)
73 Kele YU1AO
(WRTC 2K ref to Geo & Jeff)
http://QSLL.com
>From K7LXC at aol.com Sat Jul 20 06:06:30 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC vs. IARU
Message-ID: <4FAE9C1D.4C1DF043.0000DB5D@aol.com>
In a message dated Fri, 19 Jul 2002 3:18:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
n3bb@mindspring.com writes:
> >Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
Hmm, I think the answer is very simple. The original WRTC was held in
conjuction with the Goodwill Games which was held in Seattle in July, 1990.
That was the only window of opportunity that could have allowed the Russian
guys to attend. We on the organizing committee approached the ITU for some sort
of special multiplier status but they weren't interested. So then we decided to
have a separate contest which was very problematic because we were giving a
party and didn't know if anyone would show up. Fortunately people came and it
all turned out great.
The current WRTC events perhap are more historically tied to a July
timeframe from the beginning and coincidentally the IARU test fits the bill
from a WRTC standpoint.
I have to chuckle about the previously posted analytical comments of 'why
the IARU' because originally we didn't consider them - we just made it up as we
went along!
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
WRTC Seattle Co-Chairman
WRTC Sanctiong Committee Chairman
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Sat Jul 20 08:34:16 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Cleanup
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKEAIDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Folks....
Both my laptop and my 756pro acquired an overspray of OFF,
from the overnight gang at field day. Mostly on the major
caseworks...not display or knobs/keyboard, for the most part.
Any thoughts about cleaning techniques?
The alcohol impregnated screen cleaner wipes don't budge it.
Am about to try a damp cloth with a bit of soap....with an
alcohol wipe follow-up.
Ideas most welcome.
Jim/N2EA
>From okomdxc at radioamater.cz Sat Jul 20 14:47:59 2002
From: okomdxc@radioamater.cz (OK-OM DX Contest Committee)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OK-OM DX Contest 2001 - filnal results available
Message-ID: <128282581.20020720134759@radioamater.cz>
Dr. OM!
Final results of OK-OM DX Contest 2001 are available at
http://okomdx.radioamater.cz.
Log checking engine is made by Zdenek, OK1DSZ
(webmaster@radioamater.cz), all thanks to him!
In case of any questions please be patient, it's time of holidays...
I will be QRV since 1st of August.
73!
Martin Huml
OK1FUA, in the contests: OL5Y, IH9/OL5Y, IH9P, S586U (WRTC 2000), 9A0A
OK-OM DX Contest director
OKOMDXC@radioamater.cz
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>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Sat Jul 20 09:11:19 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WriteLog] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
Message-ID: <7e.2ac95273.2a6aad67@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/20/2002 11:48:56 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
cwman@juno.com writes:
> I sent a reply to John. Wasn't there something in the rules about R1 and R2
> (Region 1 and Region 2)?
>
Here is what the IARU rules say:
8. Multipliers: The total number of ITU zones plus IARU member society HQ
stations worked on each band (not mode.) IARU officials represent a maximum
of four multipliers per band (AC, R1, R2 and R3).
So, R1, R2 and R3 are IARU officials, like PA0LOU, not ITU regions of the
world.
Seems to me that /mm stations should score 1, 3 or 5 points, depending on
their location in or out of your zone/continent.
73, Geo...
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
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>From k4bai at worldnet.att.net Sat Jul 20 09:54:34 2002
From: k4bai@worldnet.att.net (John T. Laney, III)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WriteLog] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
References: <197.a00610a.2a6a2610@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3D395D8A.44EDA09B@worldnet.att.net>
This is an interesting question and deserves an answer. I doubt that
there are any zero point QSOs intended for the contest. If /MM
contacts were not permitted, it would be impossible to work some of the
IARU zones since many are wholly water. However, it is not worth
worrying a lot about since in the Cabrillo format, the only thing that
is really important is that the logchecking software scores it right.
73, John, K4BAI.
>From k9iua at yahoo.com Sat Jul 20 06:53:10 2002
From: k9iua@yahoo.com (Kevin Anderson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] THANKS (Re: I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?))
Message-ID: <20020720125310.51513.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com>
Thanks to Marty and the other folks that replied
to me off-line with further information about
both the IARU and WRTC contests this last weekend.
I am no longer confused about this particular
combination. However, nobody did answer to me
how the particular teams were picked. I will
assume it was the Finnish club that organized
the WRTC event based on their sense of who the
top contest operators are around the world. I
also gather that there are some old rivalries
here that go back a few years :-).
Cheers/73,
Kevin, K9IUA
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>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 20 08:38:31 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Georgia QSO Party Today
Message-ID: <20020720143831.33779.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com>
Hope to see everyone take some time and work all us down in Georgia in
the GQP. The contest starts at 18:00 UTC (2 PM EDT). There will be at
least 6 rovers on that I know about . See
http://gqp.contesting.com/rover_plans.htm . The rules along with any
files you need for the contest are on the GQP website at
http://gqp.contesting.com.
73's Jeff KU8E
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>From k4bai at worldnet.att.net Sat Jul 20 11:53:48 2002
From: k4bai@worldnet.att.net (John T. Laney, III)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Georgia QSO Party today and tomorrow
Message-ID: <3D39797C.7C81C144@worldnet.att.net>
Hello all:
To borrow from K4OJ, just three hours until the annual Georgia QSO Party
kicks off. It appears we will have 8 to 10 mobiles out running our 159
counties as well as other fixed and portable stations. All info is
available at http://gqp.contesting.com including proposed county routes
for 6 of the mobiles, inlcuding K4BAI/M. Please join in the fun as your
time and conditions permit. Many plaques and more certificates will be
awarded in categories of QRP, low and high power.
73,
John, K4BAI for SECC and SEDXC.
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Sat Jul 20 01:02:10 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score .. OI2HQ claimed so far
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DE0@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Hi Folks,
>From OI2HQ point of view the U.S. main consultants to
reach the succes might be:
K1CC, K1EA, K9GX, N2NC, N6TV & W2GD ..
Thanks for your participation Rich, Ken, Mark, John, Bob & John.
For me, this was The Once-In-a-Lifetime opportunity to orchestrate this kind of
a team of the Luciano Pavarottis of the Ham World to something seemingly nobody
expected.
OI2HQ claimed so far is 18.588.591Mpoints, with
427 mult, 12395 QSO.
Band QSO Qpoints points/QSO Z HQ
160 239 599 2.51 7 19
80 1102 2714 2.46 24 29
40 1929 5807 3.01 37 38
20 5061 19355 3.82 54 50
15 3152 12338 3.91 57 52
10 912 2720 2.98 28 32
---------------------------------------------------
Totals 12395 43533 3.51 207 220
This is not necessarily our final claimed as there is still
a potential issue in a log that may bring us more QSOs.
Computer networks can do anything !
OI2HQ list of Operators:
DJ2QV Maik 160m & 20SSB,
OH9MM Juha 160m,
UA3AB Andy 80SSB
OH5LF kari 80SSB
G4JVG Steve 80CW, 40SSB, 10CW
G4VXE Tim 80CW, 40SSB, 10CW
UX1UA Sergei 80CW, 40SSB, 10CW
OH3WW Hannu 40CW
K1CC Rich 20SSB
N2NC John 20SSB
P43E Emily 20SSB
K1EA Ken 20CW, 10SSB
N6TV Bob 20CW, 10SSB
W2GD John 20CW, 10SSB
S56A Mario 15CW
OH6QU Jari 15CW (&15SSB mult spotting)
OH6BG Jari 15CW
K9GX Mark 15SSB
OH8VJ Pentti 15SSB
There are at least 2 European HQ stations within a couple of per cent in the
score.
Log checking will be as exciting in this one as was for WRTC!
..despite The WRTC was more intense & fast & real life with just 30 hours after
contest top ten publication..
73,
Jukka, OH6LI,
PS. QRV this weekend atop Geta Mountain, OH0V location as OH0JJS.
Mainly 10104 kHz.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Dennis McAlpine [mailto:dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net]
> Sent: 19 July, 2002 18:26
> To: Jim White, K4OJ; 3830@contesting.com; CQ-Contest@contesting.com;
> ctdxcc@kkn.net; Richard L. King
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
>
>
> Yes, Jim, this year's ARRL HQ stations moved things up a bit
> but look at
> some of the Europeans and their geographic diversification.
> Following their
> example, why shouldn't we have stations spread out all over
> the country,
> e.g. K1EA, N2RM, W3LPL, W4MYA, etc. In fact, given the
> geographic range,
> why not have multiple statins on the same band, e.g. a W6 on
> 80 at the same
> time as a W2. OK, so you can't have multiple statios on the
> same band. How
> about a half hour from the East, then a half hour from
> midwest, then a half
> hour from west coast and keep repeating the process. Tht
> would allow us to
> use 36 different stations (6 bands X 2 modes x 3 stations per mode).
> Imagine merging those logs.
>
> 73,
> Dennis K2SX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim White, K4OJ" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: <3830@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>;
> <ctdxcc@kkn.net>;
> "Richard L. King" <k5na@texas.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
>
>
> > Congratulations on a great job representing the USA, Rich.
> >
> > The Florida Contest Group had a blast two years ago as
> W1AW/4- you have
> > taken it to the next level for team USA by interconnecting multiple
> sites -
> > hats off to you and W5XD - great achievement - cannot
> imagine all the
> > screens in sync at the end of the contest from 6 different
> sites - WOW!
> > Talk about knowing who to pass and where to pass them!!!!!
> >
> > ...this was not do-able two years ago but now is history - very very
> cool -
> > this is the current level - what will be next? The HQ
> Radiosport station
> > offers an opportunity to do this kind of thing (multiple
> sites) that no
> > other contest can - and as contesters we all love using
> technology to
> stuff
> > our envelopes to the point of breaking, hi! I know that
> the logistics of
> > two years ago were tough - sure would have been nice to gab
> to "anyone
> > anywhere" on the network!
> >
> > Go Team USA!
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Jim, K4OJ
> >
> > & THE Florida Contest Group
> >
> > FCG #1 WRTC02 - N5TJ + K1TO
> > FCG #4 WRTC02 - N6MJ + N2NL
> >
> >
> > ...from Sunny Florida where we are awaiting the return from
> WRTC in Europe
> > of our President, Dan, K1TO (co- #1) and VP Jeff, WC4E (a referee)
> >
> >
> > Should the opportunity to operate one of these affairs ever become
> available
> > again I would jump at the chance - it was as they say "a
> hoot" - being a
> > unique multiplier by just jumping in your car to go to the local MM
> > station....neat.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Richard L. King <k5na@texas.net>
> > To: <3830@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>;
> <ctdxcc@kkn.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:42 PM
> > Subject: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
> >
> >
> > > 2002 IARU Contest
> > >
> > > W1AW/5 ARRL Headquarters Station
> > >
> > > Location - Central Texas (Austin, Texas area)
> > >
> > > CW Phone
> > > Total
> > > Band QSOs Points QSOs Points
> QSOs
> > > Points Mults
> > >
> > > 160 177 375 156 296
> 333
> > > 671 11
> > > 80 329 771 444 1048
> 773
> > > 1819 27
> > > 40 824 2545 760 1778
> 1584
> > > 4323 55
> > > 20 1594 5966 2319 7522
> 3913
> > > 13488 87
> > > 15 1274 4766 1585 5339
> 2859
> > > 10105 92
> > > 10 402 1098 467 1277
> 869
> > > 2375 39
> > >
> > > Total 4600 15521 5731 17260
> 10331
> > > 32781 311
> > >
> > > Claimed Score: 32,781 x 311 = 10,194,891
> > >
> > > This past year has been a busy one here in Central Texas while we
> prepared
> > > for W1AW/5. Though we were given the W1AW/5 assignment
> over 3 years ago,
> > > the planning got started in seriousness a year ago
> immediately after the
> > > 2001 IARU.
> > >
> > > Six of the premier Central Texas stations agreed to
> participate - K5NA,
> > > K5TR, N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT. Each of these stations
> could have
> been
> > a
> > > powerhouse on any of the bands or modes but the assignments were:
> > >
> > > K5NA - 80M CW, 40M CW, & 15M SSB.
> > > K5TR - 80M SSB & 20M SSB
> > > N5CQ - 10M CW
> > > N5TW - 160M CW & 20M CW.
> > > NX5M - 160M SSB & 10M SSB.
> > > W5KFT - 40M SSB & 15M SSB
> > >
> > > W5XD wrote a special version of WriteLog for use by the
> headquarters
> > > stations. Basically the new version allowed us to connect
> to a central
> > > Internet server that fed QSOs back to all the W1AW/5
> sites in real-time.
> > > Each site could always tell what QSOs and mults each of the other
> > band/mode
> > > sites needed. The software also fed the frequencies of
> the radios back
> to
> > > everyone to allow each station to move QSOs to other bands easily.
> > >
> > > We had a total of about 15 computers set up at all the
> sites and each
> > ended
> > > up with the same QSO and multiplier numbers at the end of
> the contest.
> The
> > > software was really awesome.
> > >
> > > The 24 hours of the IARU were noisy because Central Texas
> was being hit
> > > with wave after wave of thunderstorms. This condition
> caused high QRM on
> > > all the bands and especially affected the low bands. The
> thunderstorms
> had
> > > been occurring for several days before the contest and
> there was a lot
> of
> > > flooding in the area. But no W1AW/5 sites were affected
> by flooding. The
> > > rain static and thunderstorms were another matter.
> > >
> > > The thunderstorms forced the N5TW, NX5M, & W5KFT sites to
> shut down at
> > > different times during the contest as thunder cells
> passed by. Since the
> > > logging system was real-time and current at all the sites, it was
> possible
> > > for other sites to start working the vacated band/modes almost
> immediately
> > > after the affected stations were shut down. A lot of cell
> phone calls
> were
> > > made to coordinate this. Later the band/modes were
> switched back to the
> > > original stations.
> > >
> > > Our goal was to beat the old W1AW/p record set by W1AW/4 in 2000.
> However,
> > > 10 meters just didn't have much in the way of good
> conditions here and
> we
> > > fell a little short. With sun spots going down, the
> W1AW/4 record may
> > stand
> > > for a few years. Our secondary goal was to beat NU1AW and
> the other
> > > headquarters stations. But I haven't heard any other
> official HQ scores
> > yet.
> > >
> > > All the stations owners and operators had a great time
> doing this. It
> was
> > > great fun.
> > >
> > > Thanks to the K1ZZ and the ARRL for allowing us to do
> W1AW/5 in this
> > > contest. Also thanks to W5XD for his work developing his terrific
> software
> > > to support our effort and to AB5K for the special telnet node used
> > > exclusively by all the W1AW/5 stations.
> > >
> > > There will be more detailed information and breakdowns of
> the W1AW/5
> > effort
> > > available on the net very soon.
> > >
> > > 73, Richard - K5NA
> > >
> > > k5na@texas.net
> > >
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> > > 3830@contesting.com
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>From dick.green at valley.net Sat Jul 20 16:53:56 2002
From: dick.green@valley.net (Dick Green)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020709212132.009bc940@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGIIEEMCPAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Dave,
Took me a while to get around to replying, but thanks for the observations.
If you read my IARU post, the 40-2CD performed very well under battle
conditions. Atmospheric noise was too high for S-meter comparisons, but I
felt louder on the 40-2CD and never got asked for a repeat. The 4-square was
a little less effective in that regard. The 40-square was a little quieter,
but I ended up using the 580' NE beverage when the noise got real bad. The
big surprise was that the 40-2CD was the same 5-15dB louder to VK2. Guess
the 4-square's angle advantage isn't worth 5.5 dB in the summertime. I'll be
checking that as we get into fall and winter.
I ended up using the 4-square almost exclusively for S&P on the second
radio. It's more than adequate for that purpose. You can't beat the instant
direction switching and deep F/B. It might be worth sweeping the band every
now and then with the 40-2CD to pick up real weak ones.
I modeled the 40-2CD at 50', 75', and 120', and that tells a pretty good
story as well. The gain is comparable, but the angle is 36 degrees at 50',
25 degrees at 75' and 15 degrees at 120'. I imagine that makes a heck of a
difference and will be raising the 40-2CD tower to 75 feet before the fall
contests. The F/B was somewhat better the higher you go, too, but nowhere
near the 4-square.
I really do think it's a different story on 80M and 160M. I've had excellent
results with the 80M 4-squares at K1RX and KT1V. For most of us, we just
can't get a yagi up high enough on those bands. The 4-square has a
tremendous advantage in that regard: as long as you've got the real estate,
can figure out how to raise 65-foot verticals (or top-loaded verticals), and
are willing to spend some time dealing with radials, then there's nothing
better. I use a delta loop at 75' on 80M and it beats the old inverted-vee
by a mile, but it's nowhere near as effective as a 4-square.
73, Dick WC1M
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David A. Pruett [mailto:k8cc@comcast.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:45 PM
> To: dick.green@valley.net; CONTEST
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
>
>
> Dick,
>
> Thanks for sharing your observations on your 40M four-square vs. a
> 40-2CD. My only caveat is to keep in mind that the comparison you make
> during the summer will not always jibe with the same comparison in
> winter. Radiation angles tend to be higher in the summer which
> would favor
> the low yagi over the verticals. Your observation about the gain of a
> four-square being 6 dB *over a vertical* which makes it about even with a
> dipole over ground is absolutely correct. However, its not the
> entire story.
>
> We've been using a wire four-square on 80M here at K8CC since
> 1994. We've
> had just about every kind of 80M DX antenna here at this
> location: slopers,
> delta loops, bobtails, half-squares, a 3L wire yagi and even a beautiful
> N4ZC-style log periodic with the center at 110' and the ends at
> 90'. It's
> my opinion (and shared by my guest operators) that none of these antennas
> match the four-square, at least on 80M when you're limited to
> 120' supports.
>
> That is not to say that the others were bad antennas. The simple little
> half-square made UN2L's "loud LP 80M signals" list one year. The
> wire yagi
> and N4ZC log periodic made lots of gain and were great pileup
> crashers. But until we put up the four-square we couldn't hear
> down to the
> weak layer of EU necessary to be able to run successfully on CW from
> W8. Once we put up the four-square, the results were immediately
> noticable
> on our 80M line score, and our 80M op was a lot happier too.
>
> Again, I agree with your observation that verticals (and hence,
> four-squares) don't radiate as much signal as a dipole over ground. I've
> often found, particularly on 75 SSB that with the four-square we can hear
> more DX stations than we can work. With northern Europeans particularly,
> I'll call and call a perfectly copiable SM or OH and not even get a QRZ?
> from them. My gut says if I could run about four or five KW output the
> transmit signal from the four-square would match the ability to
> receive. However, my conscience won't let me do that...
>
> A couple of years ago K3LR (who has a great 80M four-square made from
> Hy-Towers) decided to try some big horizontal antennas like a
> W2PV 2L quad
> and a 3L linear-loaded yagi. Perhaps he'd like to share his observations
> here on the reflector, but neither antenna replaced his four-square.
>
> Finally, the answer for 80M might be different than for 40M...
>
> 73,
>
> Dave/K8CC
>
>
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Sat Jul 20 17:02:10 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WriteLog] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
Message-ID: <88.1b437464.2a6b1bc2@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/20/2002 12:53:31 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
k4bai@worldnet.att.net writes:
> However, it is not worth
> worrying a lot about since in the Cabrillo format, the only thing that
> is really important is that the logchecking software scores it right.
>
Hi, John,
Yes, /mm contacts are certainly legitimate contacts, and should be worth
points. I would like WL to score them correctly. You are correct, however,
about it not being a Cabrillo file issue.
73, Geo...
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Jul 20 23:49:11 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] August CQ Magazine Online (sort of)
References: <1.5.4.32.20020719204839.0073cbe8@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <3D39DAD7.DFF1E651@harborside.com>
Bill Tippett wrote:
>
> I was searching CQ Magazine's site for an e-mail address
> to check my subscription expiration and was quite surprised to
> see several new features on the Website for the August issue which
> includes the CQ WW SSB results:
Hi Bill
Not bad. And you don't have to be a "member" to read what's on
their website. 73
Tom W7WHY
>From thompson at mindspring.com Sat Jul 20 21:23:03 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clarification CW, SSB and the FCC
Message-ID: <00bf01c2304d$fbe37c80$fe2745cf@default>
First off the person who heard this comment was a retired FCC Engineer (then
called a FOB Chief Engineer). He was with a group of visiting hams. This
was about 1 year ago when the FCC Chairman was new. My take it was a
challenge statement not a statement to abandon CW and SSB.
The retired Engineer also said lip service was paid to emergency service
too. I think from this we can gather the feeling inside the FCC (except
for Riley??).
I also brought this up again (I mentioned it last year on another reflector)
as I want to bring us back to the real world and the thread about CW versus
SSB is non productive! If you like one mode or the other then no matter
what is said you won't change your mind.
I also found out that several don't believe that digital (from RTTY to PSK
31 et al) is really amateur radio. I seem to remember the diehard AMers
saying that about SSB 40 years ago.
And Phone man Lew McCoy had to tread lightly at ARRL in the early 1950's as
the General manager was CW forever and only!
Back to contesting!
73 Dave K4JRB
>From eric at k3na.org Sun Jul 21 08:00:21 2002
From: eric@k3na.org (Eric Scace K3NA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
In-Reply-To: <000001c22a11$87cf0fe0$b69ffea9@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <NEBBJKPCLKFDODKNIPHKOECGGKAA.eric@k3na.org>
I have done this for several contests. There are two basic solutions:
a) Use two computers: one for logging and one to control the Kachina. This is
preferred as it eliminates the need to change window
focus between radio and logging software, a major impediment to S&P operation.
Furthermore, there are SERIOUS keyboard conflicts
between the two applications; e.g., F1 in many logging software packages sends
the CQ message... while F1 on a Kachina shifts the
radio to a memory frequency and obliterates what you were doing! Keeping the
applications on separate machines reduces (but does
not eliminate) these kinds of cockpit errors.
This recommendation goes double if you are using a tuning knob. The knob
goes dead when the Kachina software does not have the
keyboard focus.
b) If you must use only one computer, you should practice a lot in advance. It
is also worthwhile to obtain and configure a
keyboard macro utility, to replace some of the multi-step sequences one will
need to switch around the various applications. Think
creatively.
-- Eric K3NA
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dennis McAlpine
Sent: 2002 July 13 Sat 03:59
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Cc: Japha, Tony
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
My friend N2UN, who lives in an antenna deprived part of NYC, has successfully
managed to put up an R-7000 vertical antenna at his
office. He is talking to a Kachina at his office from his apartment via the
phone lines and using some x-10 devices to turn the
power on and off.
Now like any good contester, Tony is trying how to use this remotely activated
station in a contest. His question is how do you use
the Kachina operating software at thesame time as a contest logging program,
e.g. WriteLog, CT, NA, etc. Has anyone had any
experience with this probem and how did you do it?
Thanks for the help. It mayget another station on the air for us all to work.
73,
Dennis, K2SX
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sun Jul 21 12:58:40 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clarification CW, SSB and the FCC
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020721105840.00cc3fd4@pop.vnet.net>
K4JRB wrote:
>First off the person who heard this comment was a retired FCC Engineer (then
called a FOB Chief Engineer). He was with a group of visiting hams. This
was about 1 year ago when the FCC Chairman was new. My take it was a
challenge statement not a statement to abandon CW and SSB.
Original statement: "The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that
its time for amateurs to move to the new modes and leave what he considers
are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31
is superior to CW in weak signal environments."
"Obsolete" is a very strong word which the dictionary defines as:
1.No longer in use: an obsolete word.
2.Outmoded in design, style, or construction: an obsolete locomotive.
Neither CW nor SSB is obsolete; in fact, both are far superior to any of
the new digital modes at rapidly communicating information between
many different stations under extreme conditions. In fact, PSK31 has
NOT been proven to be superior to CW in weak signal environments IMHO.
PSK31, WSJT, QRSS, etc are superior ONLY if you know the exact frequency
to tune your receiver to the signal buried in noise. Without this
critical information (either from a prearranged schedule or via the
Internet), they cannot magically extract signals from noise. Can you
imagine a contest where you tune your receiver but cannot hear the
signals? I don't think so.
I think it always is in our interest to challenge factually
incorrect statements, especially if they are attributed to someone who
is in a position to affect us. What we need is more education of our
officials and maybe a little more critical thinking before accepting as
gospel some of their pronouncements. In this case, I think it remains
to be proven exactly what Chairman Powell actually said.
"I also found out that several don't believe that digital
(from RTTY to PSK 31 et al) is really amateur radio." That is not
what was said. What I said was "I personally do not think a
computer-to-computer 'QSO' means much". I specifically meant when
neither station can hear the other station (with their own ears),
and I'll stand by my statement. To me, a QSO like this is just like
nets where the Netmeister tells each side of the QSO "Good Contact"
when in fact neither station can hear the other. The only difference
is our computers have replaced the Netmeister!
73, Bill W4ZV
>From ww3s at zoominternet.net Sun Jul 21 09:21:22 2002
From: ww3s@zoominternet.net (Jamie WW3S)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W9XT card for sale
Message-ID: <005f01c230b1$20b9fe40$6601a8c0@zoominternet.net>
For Sale: W9XT voice keyer card and homebrew cable for 8 pin Kenwood.
Includes original manual.Cable has ptt jack, mic in, 8 pin mic ou, cw key
out. This is one of the original models; can't remember if 16 or 20 seconds
of audio. 75.00 +shipping. Paypal preferred; money order or check ok. 73
Jamie WW3S
>From k9iua at yahoo.com Sun Jul 21 07:19:34 2002
From: k9iua@yahoo.com (Kevin Anderson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Thanks again (re WRTC team selection...)
Message-ID: <20020721131934.26525.qmail@web14707.mail.yahoo.com>
Thanks again to the eight or so who replied
off-line to my followup question regarding
WRTC team selection. Obviously next time I
will be more aware of what the e-mail traffic
means when it comes time for WRTC team member
selections. (Being confused about what WRTC
was in the first place meant that I was
unable to put in context the "hundreds of
e-mails" on CQ-Contest on team selection -
my failure I guess :-).
Cheers/73,
Kevin, K9IUA
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>From w7why at harborside.com Sun Jul 21 17:25:26 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clarification CW, SSB and the FCC
References: <00bf01c2304d$fbe37c80$fe2745cf@default>
Message-ID: <3D3AD266.C214F959@harborside.com>
"David L. Thompson" wrote:
> I also found out that several don't believe that digital (from >RTTY to PSK
> 31 et al) is really amateur radio.
Hi Dave et al
Maybe not so much now, but when I first got into rtty it was
definitely amateur radio. Everyone built their own equipment,
scrounged old machines to get going, etc. I got started with an
old Model 14 strip printer and a 555 op-amp TU that I built.
Then moved up to a ST-5 (homebrew) then a DT-600 (also homebrew).
Almost everyone was using stuff they modified or built
themselves. The first SAC contest I worked I used a Model 15 and
Model 14 reperf. Made 125 Q's with 25 countries and made WAC in
that contest. Most of the guys operating RTTY now are guys that
have been around for a while. PSK--now that's a different story
:-( 73
Tom W7WHY
>From k2av at contesting.com Sun Jul 21 13:45:42 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
References: <NEBBJKPCLKFDODKNIPHKOECGGKAA.eric@k3na.org>
Message-ID: <009001c230d6$0dbf9870$0500a8c0@swift>
Understand.
Where do you put the two monitors? What kind and size are they?
Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Scace K3NA" <eric@k3na.org>
To: "Dennis McAlpine" <dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net>; "Cq-Contest"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 7:00 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
> I have done this for several contests. There are two basic
solutions:
>
> a) Use two computers: one for logging and one to control the
Kachina. This is preferred as it eliminates the need to change window
> focus between radio and logging software, a major impediment to S&P
operation. Furthermore, there are SERIOUS keyboard conflicts
> between the two applications; e.g., F1 in many logging software
packages sends the CQ message... while F1 on a Kachina shifts the
> radio to a memory frequency and obliterates what you were doing!
Keeping the applications on separate machines reduces (but does
> not eliminate) these kinds of cockpit errors.
>
> This recommendation goes double if you are using a tuning knob.
The knob goes dead when the Kachina software does not have the
> keyboard focus.
>
> b) If you must use only one computer, you should practice a lot in
advance. It is also worthwhile to obtain and configure a
> keyboard macro utility, to replace some of the multi-step sequences
one will need to switch around the various applications. Think
> creatively.
>
> -- Eric K3NA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dennis McAlpine
> Sent: 2002 July 13 Sat 03:59
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Cc: Japha, Tony
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
>
>
> My friend N2UN, who lives in an antenna deprived part of NYC, has
successfully managed to put up an R-7000 vertical antenna at his
> office. He is talking to a Kachina at his office from his apartment
via the phone lines and using some x-10 devices to turn the
> power on and off.
>
> Now like any good contester, Tony is trying how to use this remotely
activated station in a contest. His question is how do you use
> the Kachina operating software at thesame time as a contest logging
program, e.g. WriteLog, CT, NA, etc. Has anyone had any
> experience with this probem and how did you do it?
>
> Thanks for the help. It mayget another station on the air for us
all to work.
>
> 73,
>
> Dennis, K2SX
>
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>From w9sz at prairienet.org Sun Jul 21 12:58:50 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clarification CW, SSB and the FCC
In-Reply-To: <3D3AD266.C214F959@harborside.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207211148540.3915-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Tom Osborne wrote:
>
>
> "David L. Thompson" wrote:
>
> > I also found out that several don't believe that digital (from >RTTY to PSK
> > 31 et al) is really amateur radio.
>
> Hi Dave et al
>
> Maybe not so much now, but when I first got into rtty it was
> definitely amateur radio. Everyone built their own equipment,
> scrounged old machines to get going, etc. I got started with an
> old Model 14 strip printer and a 555 op-amp TU that I built.
> Then moved up to a ST-5 (homebrew) then a DT-600 (also homebrew).
> Almost everyone was using stuff they modified or built
> themselves. The first SAC contest I worked I used a Model 15 and
> Model 14 reperf. Made 125 Q's with 25 countries and made WAC in
> that contest. Most of the guys operating RTTY now are guys that
> have been around for a while. PSK--now that's a different story
> :-( 73
> Tom W7WHY
I have been active on RTTY, PSK31, MFSK16, Hellschreiber, etc. and I
really don't see any difference in what is actually done with any of these
modes. Some are wider in spectrum, some are narrower, some get through
better than others - but it's basically typing the information back and
forth and watching it appear on a screen instead of listening to it. You
still have to see the screen in real time and reply in real time.
I don't see any difference in how to conduct a QSO on RTTY or PSK31. The
only difference is the equipment used. Most RTTY stations these days use
computers. It's still fun.
I consider "radio" to be anything that is propagated between two antennas,
regardless of the mode it uses. If it goes from a transmitter to an
antenna, propagates by free space, ionosphere, tropo ducting, FAI, EME or
whatever and is received at another antenna, it's radio.
73, Zack W9SZ
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Sun Jul 21 23:56:33 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (Bob Wruble)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] speaking of parts prices...
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20020718153646.00a5f9a0@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <011401c23144$88c3ddb0$bcee3d04@bobhome>
a mouse recently chewed the ear muff on my new pro-set boom
mike set. i sent it to heil for repair. they did it quickly and charged me
$8. a fair price in my mind!! de w7gg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] speaking of parts prices...
> What's with Heil? They used to have a good reputation for providing small
> parts reasonably, but I recently bought a boom clip and a pair of earpads
> for a BM-10 from them. The charge was $5.00 for each item, plus $3.00
S&H,
> and they arrived USPS in a box with 60 cents postage on it. Yes, I know
> about the cost of handling small orders, but I think these prices have it
> built in several times over...
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Jul 22 02:56:22 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K1TO and WC4E arrive in Tampa - pix on website below
Message-ID: <01ec01c23144$83bc7b60$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
...for shots of how we treat our WRTC Champion please go to the following
website and scroll down - Welcome Home Dan K1TO ( and Jeff, the Ref, WC4E ).
...check out the West Central Florida ARRL Division website for the piece on
the return of Dit and Dahs
http://www.wcfarrl.org/smcol.html
...unfortunately, fourth place (second US) finisher N2NL flew home into the
other coast immediately after WRTC and we couldn't do the same for him!
Congratulations From All of The Florida Contest Group and thanks team
WRTC2002 Finland for putting on such a fine show.
K4FCG
>From eric at k3na.org Mon Jul 22 08:10:39 2002
From: eric@k3na.org (Eric Scace K3NA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
In-Reply-To: <009001c230d6$0dbf9870$0500a8c0@swift>
Message-ID: <NEBBJKPCLKFDODKNIPHKGEFHGKAA.eric@k3na.org>
Two laptops were used.
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Guy Olinger, K2AV
Sent: 2002 July 21 Sun 12:46
To: eric@k3na.org; Dennis McAlpine; Cq-Contest
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
Understand.
Where do you put the two monitors? What kind and size are they?
Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Scace K3NA" <eric@k3na.org>
To: "Dennis McAlpine" <dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net>; "Cq-Contest"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 7:00 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
> I have done this for several contests. There are two basic
solutions:
>
> a) Use two computers: one for logging and one to control the
Kachina. This is preferred as it eliminates the need to change window
> focus between radio and logging software, a major impediment to S&P
operation. Furthermore, there are SERIOUS keyboard conflicts
> between the two applications; e.g., F1 in many logging software
packages sends the CQ message... while F1 on a Kachina shifts the
> radio to a memory frequency and obliterates what you were doing!
Keeping the applications on separate machines reduces (but does
> not eliminate) these kinds of cockpit errors.
>
> This recommendation goes double if you are using a tuning knob.
The knob goes dead when the Kachina software does not have the
> keyboard focus.
>
> b) If you must use only one computer, you should practice a lot in
advance. It is also worthwhile to obtain and configure a
> keyboard macro utility, to replace some of the multi-step sequences
one will need to switch around the various applications. Think
> creatively.
>
> -- Eric K3NA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dennis McAlpine
> Sent: 2002 July 13 Sat 03:59
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Cc: Japha, Tony
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
>
>
> My friend N2UN, who lives in an antenna deprived part of NYC, has
successfully managed to put up an R-7000 vertical antenna at his
> office. He is talking to a Kachina at his office from his apartment
via the phone lines and using some x-10 devices to turn the
> power on and off.
>
> Now like any good contester, Tony is trying how to use this remotely
activated station in a contest. His question is how do you use
> the Kachina operating software at thesame time as a contest logging
program, e.g. WriteLog, CT, NA, etc. Has anyone had any
> experience with this probem and how did you do it?
>
> Thanks for the help. It mayget another station on the air for us
all to work.
>
> 73,
>
> Dennis, K2SX
>
>
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>From wd4ahz at gte.net Mon Jul 22 11:09:44 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Section News and Contest Results
Message-ID: <3D3C1228.BD697366@gte.net>
Frank,
Thanks for your support in keeping Section News and Contest Results in
QST. Unfortunately, this was already a "done deal" scheduled for the
last BOD Meeting ... but the membership "outcry" put that on hold until
this meeting.
The "dumbing down" of Amateur Radio that the ARRL has been pushing, has
finally completely overtaken QST, since Contest Results and Section
News, were the last bits of "non fluff" left in QST ... and now those
will be gone.
I hope this action brings about the desired outcome, but previous
actions by the ARRL to increase membership (by dumbing down Amateur
Radio) have not worked. This may save money by reducing the number of
pages (or will something take their place?), but may also turn some
current members away, since many feel the ARRL no longer represents the
membership or the best interest of Amateur Radio ... instead the ARRL
now acts in the best interest of the ARRL.
The question now, is if the "National Contest Journal", NCJ, can be
expanded to make it a monthly contest magazine. I already subscribe to
NCJ, but would gladly drop QST in favor of an expanded NCJ.
Thanks,
Ron Wetjen, WD4AHZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 22 08:46:13 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207221446.g6MEkDm22043@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
J75KG 1654 661 192 24 1,776,768 FCG
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S LP
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW LP
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
RA9JR 2011 8927 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
RN4LP 1505 4683 251 24 1,175,433
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 14 463,606 HSDXA
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
K1HT 399 123 139 8 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 22 2,342,130 Other (specify when
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
FM5GU 0 1492 99 9 609,246
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 22 08:47:07 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207221447.g6MEl7J22052@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op QRP
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 1 15 SECC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 22 08:47:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207221447.g6MElnD22061@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/2 QRP
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 22 08:49:32 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207221449.g6MEnWd22070@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
VA3DX 388 147 10 58,200
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 9 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
W6ZL 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
K3FH 176 98 8 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 6 14,964
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
IK0HBN 150 57 9 8,550
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 2 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K6OWL 46 34 2 1,564
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Mon Jul 22 12:07:28 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] speaking of parts prices...
Message-ID: <73.22df8ce8.2a6d79b0@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/22/2002 2:12:49 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
bob.wruble@verizon.net writes:
> a mouse recently chewed the ear muff on my new pro-set boom
> mike set. i sent it to heil for repair. they did it quickly and charged
> me
> $8. a fair price in my mind!! de w7gg
>
Sounds like it's high time for a cordless mouse!
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Mon Jul 22 16:59:50 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC logs
Message-ID: <01c2317f$aa5ca0c0$LocalHost@default>
Hi gang,
Here are some comments re WRTC2002 logs by Risto, OH3UU.
For any questions, please contact oh3uu@sral.fi
73 Ari OH1EH
Hello Folks !
Just visiting at home during my holiday.
First of all, my apologies to all. We were not able to confirm received Early
Bird logs for WRTC2002 due to the tremendous email traffic and pile up with
incoming team logs.
Enclosed please find some statistic about received emails:
Emails total 2242
Count of the logs 1343 (there were several updated emails)
(the count will increase because some emails have more than one log)
Early Bird logs 943
Sex offers 68
Messages with virus 35
Logs with virus alert 32
Corrupted logs abt. 10 (not sure if all were logs)
Money begging 10
The numbers are unofficial and we will start to process the logs more carefully
after the holiday season.
Thanks to all for co-operation
73, Risto
oh3uu@welho.com
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Jul 22 13:15:44 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
Message-ID: <007501c2319b$086f50c0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
snippets taken from one account of the past weekend's board meeting:
ALERT: Sun, July 21, 2002; 11:04 PM ET
Section News and Contest Scores Moving to the Web
In a controversial decision the ARRL Board has voted 9 to 6 to remove
Section News and contest scores from QST as of the January 2003 issue.
The roll call vote is as follows:
Opposed:
Roderick-K5UR-Delta Div., Fuller-N3EFN-Atlantic Div.,
Race-WB8BGY-Great Lakes Div.,
Milnes-W7OZ-Northwestern Div., Maxwell-W6CF-Pacific
Div., and
Butler-W4RH-Southeastern Div.
Voting for the removal:
Isely-W9GIG-Central Div.,
Bellows-K0QB-Dakota Div., Fallon-N2FF-Hudson Div.,
Walstrom-W0EJ-Midwest Div.,
Frenaye-K1KI-New England Div., Bodson-W4PWF-Roanoke
Div., Stinson-W0CP-Rock
Mountain Div., Goddard-W6XD-Southwestern Div. and
Day-N5OK-West Gulf Div. All
directors can be reach at their call-signs @ arrl.org.
Great Lakes Division Director George
un-snip
...I am sure full details are or are about to be posted at the ARRL website.
Thank you W4RH for voting in favor of contest score retention in QST and
the chance to expose non-contesters to contesting...hopefully the ARRL will
allow QST to use as much space for promotion of OPERATING versus mere
license holding and vhf transceiver buying.
The post "un-snip" comments are my own...and the snippets in the top part of
the message were edited from the WCF section webpage.
73,
Jim, K4OJ
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 22 15:54:41 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
In-Reply-To: <007501c2319b$086f50c0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20020722215441.41977.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
I bet the ARRL will see those who solely subscribed to QST for contest
results and writeups not renewing their subscriptions. I agree with
moving section news because it's boring stuff that lots of people don't
even read. Just wait until they stop printing the DXCC listings !!!
I really don't think the ARRL has a clue about demographics.
Contesting
and DXing are by far the most popular amateur radio activities and
these two groups are the ones buying the products that are advertising
in QST. Does this mean we are now going to see great articles like "
How to Effectively Ragchew on the 75 Meter Band" in QST ????
Maybe someone can clue me in why the ARRL takes the attitude that
contesters/DXer's are the minority ????
I live in Atlanta, GA , which is a pretty big metro area of about 4
million people. I can't imagine that talking on 2 meter repeaters is
very popular. There has to be a repeater on every split possible and I
hardly hear anyone using these repeaters???
How about weak signal VHF/UHF ???? Well it's seems most of the time
there isn't much activity in most parts of the country unless there
is a contest going on ???
How about digital modes ??? Well most of the guys I know that do this
are either contesting or DXing. Sure there are guys probably handling
traffic but the whole thing is so automated now it's like me just
sending an email on my computer.... What's so fun about that ???
That leaves all those "ragchewers" out there. There must be tons of
them because during the weekday the bands have have no activity. It
picks up during the weekend but the bands are by no means crowded if it
is a non-contest weekend.
I really feel bad for the future of ham radio. To do most of all the so
called "hot" activities is many times too expensive for the newcomer.
Maybe I shouldn't complain because when all those 50 something
contesters are all gone in 20-30 years from now I can have 14.001 all
to myself !!!!
73's from Clueless in Georgia , Jeff
--- "Jim White, K4OJ" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> snippets taken from one account of the past weekend's board meeting:
>
>
> ALERT: Sun, July 21, 2002; 11:04 PM ET
>
> Section News and Contest Scores Moving to the Web
>
> In a controversial decision the ARRL Board has voted 9 to 6 to remove
> Section News and contest scores from QST as of the January 2003
> issue.
>
> The roll call vote is as follows:
>
> Opposed:
> Roderick-K5UR-Delta Div., Fuller-N3EFN-Atlantic
> Div.,
> Race-WB8BGY-Great Lakes Div.,
> Milnes-W7OZ-Northwestern Div.,
> Maxwell-W6CF-Pacific
> Div., and
> Butler-W4RH-Southeastern Div.
>
>
> Voting for the removal:
>
>
> Isely-W9GIG-Central Div.,
> Bellows-K0QB-Dakota Div., Fallon-N2FF-Hudson
> Div.,
> Walstrom-W0EJ-Midwest Div.,
> Frenaye-K1KI-New England Div.,
> Bodson-W4PWF-Roanoke
> Div., Stinson-W0CP-Rock
> Mountain Div., Goddard-W6XD-Southwestern Div.
> and
> Day-N5OK-West Gulf Div. All
> directors can be reach at their call-signs @
> arrl.org.
> Great Lakes Division Director George
>
>
> un-snip
>
> ...I am sure full details are or are about to be posted at the ARRL
> website.
>
>
> Thank you W4RH for voting in favor of contest score retention in QST
> and
> the chance to expose non-contesters to contesting...hopefully the
> ARRL will
> allow QST to use as much space for promotion of OPERATING versus mere
> license holding and vhf transceiver buying.
>
> The post "un-snip" comments are my own...and the snippets in the top
> part of
> the message were edited from the WCF section webpage.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, K4OJ
>
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>From kc1f at adelphia.net Mon Jul 22 23:34:44 2002
From: kc1f@adelphia.net (Stuart Santelmann)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Results of UA1 antenna query
Message-ID: <01bd01c231c7$a7aa3d40$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Hello everyone:
I had several reponses to my question about the big HF station in St.
Petersburg, Russia, near the "Kissing Bridge". For those who may be
curious, here they are:
- One vote for "a Finnish businessman"
- One vote for UZ1AWX, reported to be some of the same guys as RU1A
- One vote for RZ1AWT, also reported to be many of the same guys as RU1A
- One vote for "old city small QTH of RU1A", with the main one being
outside of the city
- One vote apparently wondering how I could have thought such "small"
antennas could be RU1A, hi
I don't think it had occurred to any of us to talk to the WRTC competitors
from that area RW1AC or RV1AW to see how close they were to the city for a
possible eyeball and a beer at the hotel during our visit - next time, hi
best 73 Stu KC1F
>From k9gx at yahoo.com Mon Jul 22 17:34:02 2002
From: k9gx@yahoo.com (Mark Williams)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC logs
In-Reply-To: <01c2317f$aa5ca0c0$LocalHost@default>
Message-ID: <20020722233402.11838.qmail@web13007.mail.yahoo.com>
Risto...and all
Sex offers? Obviously whoever made those offers hadn't looked at any of the
many digital photos of our group at WRTC...face it we're not the "jet
set/pretty people". Or maybe they DID and figured we needed some help in that
area (grin)
Hopefully those "sex offers" were not also the ones with "viruses"...yecch!
There weren't any offers of "favors" for overlooking UBN's, I hope!
73 to all...and thanks again to everyone who made WRTC 2002 such a special
event for all of us who were there
Mark
K9GX/OI2HQ 15m SSB SRAL team
Ari Korhonen <ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi> wrote: Hi gang,
Here are some comments re WRTC2002 logs by Risto, OH3UU.
For any questions, please contact oh3uu@sral.fi
73 Ari OH1EH
Hello Folks !
Just visiting at home during my holiday.
First of all, my apologies to all. We were not able to confirm received Early
Bird logs for WRTC2002 due to the tremendous email traffic and pile up with
incoming team logs.
Enclosed please find some statistic about received emails:
Emails total 2242
Count of the logs 1343 (there were several updated emails)
(the count will increase because some emails have more than one log)
Early Bird logs 943
Sex offers 68
Messages with virus 35
Logs with virus alert 32
Corrupted logs abt. 10 (not sure if all were logs)
Money begging 10
The numbers are unofficial and we will start to process the logs more carefully
after the holiday season.
Thanks to all for co-operation
73, Risto
oh3uu@welho.com
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>From k3ft at erols.com Mon Jul 22 20:45:49 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MDC QSO party
Message-ID: <3D3CA73D.35D@erols.com>
Reminder, MDC QSO party - Two days. Saturday August 10, 2002. Starts at 1200
local and
runs until 2400 local. Sunday, August 11, 2002 runs from 1200 local until 8pm
local.
Rules are available on W3CWC website. (See search engine for W3CWC, Antietam
Radio Association, MDC QSO PARTY for URL's.
You can find FREE Logging software available at URL
http://www.qsl.net/w3km/gen_log.htm
This software is FREE to download. Also download the counties file as well. I
have
downloaded it and tried it. Installed easily, opened easily, and has MANY QSO
parties
and other contest templates included. INcludes counties list too.
Two files.. Genlog.exe and Genlogx.exe plus the counties file. Suggest you
download the
history.txt files and the other associated ones too.
It claims to do the ADIF import/export and has a general logging program too.
I have no connection to anyone or any group involved in this program I wanted
to let
others who were looking for QSO party software know about it.
CU in the QSO party!
73
Chuck K3FT
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Mon Jul 22 23:56:03 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
In-Reply-To: <20020722215441.41977.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207222239550.12687-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Jeffrey Clarke wrote:
> How about weak signal VHF/UHF ???? Well it's seems most of the time
> there isn't much activity in most parts of the country unless there
> is a contest going on ???
That's pretty much the case around here. There are a few people who get
on and ragchew on 144 MHz SSB but the higher bands are pretty empty except
for contests.
>
> How about digital modes ??? Well most of the guys I know that do this
> are either contesting or DXing. Sure there are guys probably handling
> traffic but the whole thing is so automated now it's like me just
> sending an email on my computer.... What's so fun about that ???
>
We just got a group going in this area to experiment with PSK31, MFSK16
etc on 144 MHz. We're using 144.150 right now. The digital modes CAN be
fun and real-time communication bewteen two people is communication
regardless of whether it's done on CW, SSB or digital modes. The digital
modes seem to be a matter of taste, though; some people don't like them.
I do. That's one thing that always intrigued me about this hobby; there
are so many different things to do.
>
> That leaves all those "ragchewers" out there. There must be tons of
> them because during the weekday the bands have have no activity. It
> picks up during the weekend but the bands are by no means crowded if it
> is a non-contest weekend.
>
>From my observation, there seems to be more ragchewing going on as a rule
on SSB than on CW. The bands are not crowded on either mode, though.
>
> I really feel bad for the future of ham radio. To do most of all the so
> called "hot" activities is many times too expensive for the newcomer.
> Maybe I shouldn't complain because when all those 50 something
> contesters are all gone in 20-30 years from now I can have 14.001 all
> to myself !!!!
>
When I got started in ham radio we had a Novice license (probably true for
most of you, too.) There was cheap Novice gear to be had. You could get
on the air for less than $100 in the late 60's and even work some DX. I
remember CO2BB used to come into the Novice band on 40 once in a while and
thrill us all. I worked a lot of Europe, Japan and Okinawa on 15 meters
as a Novice. BTW, I still have my old Novice transmitter and I measured
the power out a couple years ago just for fun, to see what I was working
all that DX with. 30 watts!
I'm not sure of the future of ham radio, either. As Yogi Berra once said,
"The future just ain't what it used to be!"
73, Zack W9SZ
>From nf1j at earthlink.net Mon Jul 22 21:58:48 2002
From: nf1j@earthlink.net (Warren C. Stankiewicz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
References: <20020722215441.41977.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000701c231fd$420b02e0$e451ff40@familyroom>
Well, if folks are this upset, let's look at the political economic
situation here (without trying to sound Marxist)...
Who voted for this?
Isely-W9GIG-Central Div.,
That's SMC territory, isn't it?
Bellows-K0QB-Dakota Div.
MWA's got a pretty big contingent, I recall, if I'm not mistaken
Fallon-N2FF-Hudson Div.,
I think you could call that 50-50 between FRC and YCCC types
Frenaye-K1KI-New England Div
YCCC
Bodson-W4PWF-Roanoke
Anyone here from PVRC?
Day-N5OK-West Gulf Div.
There's what, two, three big contest clubs in Texas?
And I left out some directors, and a whole bunch of clubs, none
intentionally. Walt Stinson even served on the CAC at one time.
All of you who are ARRL members got the chance to vote for these people. All
these directors would surely show at any regular club meeting, if they were
asked, to address the members, especially a sizeable contingent (I leave out
those who'd show up anyhow).
With malice towards none (I even know and like some of these folks). But if
you voted for them, you got what you paid for. If you didn't vote for them,
you got even less than what you paid for. The ARRL is you, and you should be
telling it what you want, and not the other way around.
Not that I'm suggesting overthrowing the board--that would be a bit too
revolutionary. Nor am I suggesting people resort to the tactics other
organizations use of trying to vote out people who don't represent their
point of view. But if you want your voices to be heard in Newington,.
perhaps folks should consider grouping together on the divisional level
until they make their voices and their points heard.
After all, at it's very core, amateur radio is about *operating*, isn't it?
And who does more of that than people like us?
Again, with malice towards none, and 73,
warren (nf1j/6)
nf1j@earthlink.net
>From k1ir at designet.com Tue Jul 23 09:05:55 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Line Scores in QST - Comments Were Submitted to ARRL
Message-ID: <kde86zh6flzs28i.230720020805@designet-jsi>
Fellow Contesters,
It took quite a long time, but last week as the ARRL BoD meeting was
approaching, we did get the promised Contest Coverage document out to ARRL HQ
staff and to the individual board members. The document can be viewed at:
PDF version: http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
and
HTML version: http://www.designet.com/k1ir/ContestCoverageProposal_071702.htm
About 35 contesters - including ARRL members and non-members, US and non-US
contesters - participated in the creation of this set of proposals. As you'll
observe when you read it, the document goes way beyond the simple question of
how line scores are to be published. It addresses the deeper questions of how
the various aspects of contesting can be presented effectively to all types of
existing and potential audiences.
At this point, we do know that this information was distributed just prior to
the BoD meeting, but we have not heard any specific reactions and we don't know
if or how the proposals influenced voting on the question of line scores.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Tue Jul 23 08:45:07 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
In-Reply-To: <000701c231fd$420b02e0$e451ff40@familyroom>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJMEFEEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> After all, at it's very core, amateur radio is about *operating*,
> isn't it?
> And who does more of that than people like us?
>
The pig-farmers and coal-miners on 75?
>From GaryK9GS at wi.rr.com Tue Jul 23 08:46:24 2002
From: GaryK9GS@wi.rr.com (Gary K9GS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K3EST E-Mail Address??
Message-ID: <001801c23246$f44bc0e0$9a991f41@wi.rr.com>
Does anyone have K3EST's correct e-mail address??
Both the mailto on the CQ Magazine web page and the K3EST@mother.com bounce.
73,
Gary
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
K9GS
Gary Schwartz email: k9gs@arrl.net
Check out K9NS on the web http://www.qsl.net/k9ns/
Society of Midwest Contesters (SMC) GMDXA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>From n4zr at contesting.com Tue Jul 23 09:51:01 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723084201.0248a960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Following is from the ARRL Web, which is having server problems this
morning, so I've taken the liberty of excerpting. Deletion marked with "..."
""Section News," Line Scores Moving from QST to Web; Great Lakes Director
Steps Down
NEWINGTON, CT, Jul 22, 2002--Starting next January, "Section News" and
contest line score results will appear on the ARRL Web site rather than in
QST. Meeting July 19-20 in Windsor, Connecticut, the ARRL Board of
Directors voted 9-6 to approve a resolution formally relocating "Section
News" to the ARRL Web site. "Section News" has appeared in the League's
official journal at least since 1919. The "Section News" Web sites--already
in place--will provide the officials of each ARRL section "the capability
of an up-to-date information resource that can be tailored to the needs of
their section," the resolution said.
...
In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed that the
ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the results of
ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will appear in QST. The
change does not affect ARRL Field Day results, which will continue to be
published in the magazine.
A Web site established earlier this year now includes, among other
features, a searchable database of contest line scores for members and the
ability to easily analyze individual and club scores. There's also an
on-line Soapbox to post comments and photos immediately after a contest, as
well as an expanded narrative for each event. In addition, the resolution
pointed out, the ARRL now offers members the free Contest Rate Sheet
newsletter, which focuses specifically on contesting."
It troubles me is that there is no indication of any intention to improve
in-print coverage of contesting topics, paralleling that in the discussion
on Section News. Perhaps one or more of the directors who reads this
reflector can explain further.
73, Pete N4ZR
>From ludal at dmv.com Tue Jul 23 10:47:47 2002
From: ludal@dmv.com (Dallas Carter)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest reporting
References: <20020722215441.41977.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
<000701c231fd$420b02e0$e451ff40@familyroom>
Message-ID: <00b901c2324f$8a963460$14ea21a2@com>
With all due respect to Jim and others, It was nice to see
how the board voted on this issue; but:
I think we kicked all the air out of this ball 6 months ago.
Many of us wrote to our directors to make our cases, and
it was discussed here ad nausium. The action has now been
taken, and reflects the feelings of the directors constituancies.
At this point we should give the web alternative a chance.
So far, I like what I see; and I was an opponent of the
proposal.
Those who make the point that contesters are the ones who
support the advertisers have not done a very thorough analysis
of the market. The position is only partially true and not
mutually exclusive. The FACT is that contestors ARE in the
numerical minority with regard to ARRL membership, and the
vote probably does represent the membership. If you want
to vote with your feet, that's fine, but let's get this venue back
to contesting topics and drop the League bashing.
73 Dallas W3PP
>From jonathan.schulz at sbt.siemens.com Tue Jul 23 09:48:07 2002
From: jonathan.schulz@sbt.siemens.com (Schulz Jonathan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
Message-ID: <9C9D44629453D611874300508B91A4AC116EC4@hubs.us.abatos.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren C. Stankiewicz [mailto:nf1j@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:59 PM
> To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
>
>
> Well, if folks are this upset, let's look at the political economic
> situation here (without trying to sound Marxist)...
>
> Who voted for this?
>
> Isely-W9GIG-Central Div.,
>
> That's SMC territory, isn't it?
>
Sure is! And Dick is a semi active participant in SS and other contests,
going to have to ask him about this sometime. My take on the whole thing; if
the Web coverage could give us the results in a more timely manner and
continue to be as good as the ones I have seen so far, (SS, ARRL 160) I
couldn't care less that they are dropping line scores in QST.
73,
Jon
K9JLS
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Tue Jul 23 10:47:42 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHCECHDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Guys,
Thanks to you all for the inputs, on how to remove the
overspray of OFF from my laptop and radio, after Field Day.
I thought maybe it'd be worth some quick feedback.
First, no soap removed the little white spots on the laptop case.
I was about to try denatured alcohol, in a small spot, when I decided
to give skin-so-soft a try, first. It removes pine pitch and other stuff from
hair and clothing, so, maybe.... et voila!
Three drops on a damp cloth, and some light rubbing...and the stuff
is gone. Not only do I have a clean station, but it's the sweetest smelling
station in the neighborhood! (be sparing, and wipe it down with a dry cloth
afterwards.)
Next year, I'm going to provide a spray bottle with 50/50 of water/skin-so-soft.
That way, I'm reasonably assured it'll come off. OFF will be banned from the
CW tent!
For those of you who doubt the insect chasing properties of this stuff...don't.
a 50% sol'n w/water works well as a spray. We use it in VT against black flies
and
mosquitos, and in the Carribean for mustiques & no see 'ums. Works great.
73, Jim, n2ea
>From w2up at mindspring.com Tue Jul 23 11:38:35 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723084201.0248a960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
I find it surprising, and disappointing, that two of the directors, K1KI
and N2FF, both of whom are contesters, voted to remove contest
results from QST. While they are under no obligation to explain
themselves, perhaps they would care to, anyway...
Personally, I find QST of little interest of value. As the League is
interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
priced membership:
One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
Comments?
73,
Barry W2UP
On 23 Jul 02, at 8:51, Pete Smith wrote:
> Following is from the ARRL Web, which is having server problems this
> morning, so I've taken the liberty of excerpting. Deletion marked
> with "..."
>
> ""Section News," Line Scores Moving from QST to Web; Great Lakes
> Director Steps Down
>
> NEWINGTON, CT, Jul 22, 2002--Starting next January, "Section News" and
> contest line score results will appear on the ARRL Web site rather
> than in QST. Meeting July 19-20 in Windsor, Connecticut, the ARRL
> Board of Directors voted 9-6 to approve a resolution formally
> relocating "Section News" to the ARRL Web site. "Section News" has
> appeared in the League's official journal at least since 1919. The
> "Section News" Web sites--already in place--will provide the officials
> of each ARRL section "the capability of an up-to-date information
> resource that can be tailored to the needs of their section," the
> resolution said.
>
> ...
>
> In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed that
> the ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the results
> of ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will appear in
> QST. The change does not affect ARRL Field Day results, which will
> continue to be published in the magazine.
>
> A Web site established earlier this year now includes, among other
> features, a searchable database of contest line scores for members and
> the ability to easily analyze individual and club scores. There's also
> an on-line Soapbox to post comments and photos immediately after a
> contest, as well as an expanded narrative for each event. In addition,
> the resolution pointed out, the ARRL now offers members the free
> Contest Rate Sheet newsletter, which focuses specifically on
> contesting."
>
> It troubles me is that there is no indication of any intention to
> improve in-print coverage of contesting topics, paralleling that in
> the discussion on Section News. Perhaps one or more of the directors
> who reads this reflector can explain further.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From k4ja at crosslink.net Tue Jul 23 16:25:50 2002
From: k4ja@crosslink.net (K4JA Paul)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <002901c2325d$3bbec2e0$0601a8c0@gipper>
Hello Barry
My thoughts also, I have been thinking the very same thing all day long as I
read the mail.
73 Paul
> One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> Comments?
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 23 12:35:05 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
References: <9C9D44629453D611874300508B91A4AC116EC4@hubs.us.abatos.com>
Message-ID: <3D3D77A9.FA876B88@gte.net>
Schulz Jonathan wrote:
> My take on the whole thing; if the Web coverage could give us the
> results in a more timely manner and continue to be as good as the
> ones I have seen so far, (SS, ARRL 160) I couldn't care less that
> they are dropping line scores in QST.
Why is everyone missing the point?
Kid Q. Public picks up a QST at the local newsstand and skims through
it. He sees a bunch of "low tech" articles and a lot of nice photos of
people doing stuff with HT's. He thinks "geeks", and puts it back
down. (He wont bother to visit the ARRL Web site - thinking it's more
"geek" stuff.)
On the other hand, he runs across something about a "contest" which
catches his eye - COOL! He buys QST, and reads further, and perhaps
sparks his interest in Amateur Radio and getting involved in
contesting. That "hook" will no longer be there.
If people don't even know something exists, how will they find out about
it?
Ron
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 23 12:36:48 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <3D3D7810.9FBD9754@gte.net>
Barry wrote:
> One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
Or those who want only NCJ, yet remain an ARRL member.
Ron
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Tue Jul 23 12:41:15 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] league bashing//tree hugging//results
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKECJDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
I find it amusing that a computer oriented constituency such
as one finds on this reflector would continue to bash the
league for not printing line scores.
Both publishing economics and timing favor the web site.
We don't seem to be paragons of progressive thinking on this topic.
Dallas Carter said it well:
"I think we kicked all the air out of this ball 6 months ago.
Many of us wrote to our directors to make our cases, and
it was discussed here ad nausium. The action has now been
taken, and reflects the feelings of the directors constituancies.
At this point we should give the web alternative a chance.
So far, I like what I see; and I was an opponent of the
proposal."
You may not like the league, but it represents the singular hope for
continuing life in this hobby in the US. The regulatory agency defers to
ARRL, in pursuit of self-governance in the service. ARRL's role
is growing.
If you find ARRL flawed, YOU are responsible. Become involved.
And stop whining.
N2EA
Jim Jarvis
>From k1mk at arrl.net Tue Jul 23 09:51:48 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Tue, 23 July 2002, "Barry " wrote
> As the League is
> interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> priced membership:
> One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> Comments?
There'd be a price difference because... ?
Michael Keane K1MK
k1mk@arrl.net
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Tue Jul 23 12:06:41 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207231104280.25236-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
All the "good stuff" (for the technically-minded) is in QEX these days.
The last issue I got, which had articles on software-defined radio, was
superb.
And then there's NCJ.
QST doesn't appeal to me much anymore, either.
73, Zack W9SZ
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Barry wrote:
> I find it surprising, and disappointing, that two of the directors, K1KI
> and N2FF, both of whom are contesters, voted to remove contest
> results from QST. While they are under no obligation to explain
> themselves, perhaps they would care to, anyway...
> Personally, I find QST of little interest of value. As the League is
> interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> priced membership:
> One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> Comments?
> 73,
> Barry W2UP
>
>From tree at kkn.net Tue Jul 23 10:09:49 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Board votes - get the facts right
Message-ID: <200207231609.g6NG9n208101@loja.kkn.net>
There were two differnet votes. One was about the section news
(which was a roll call vote). For the contest line scores, I
quote the earlier post:
> In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed that the
> ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the results of
> ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will appear in QST. The
> change does not affect ARRL Field Day results, which will continue to be
> published in the magazine.
Therefore it would seem the current analysis of who did and who didn't vote
for the contest removal is rather pointless. You are talking about who
voted for the Section News issue.
Tree N6TR
>From K7LXC at aol.com Tue Jul 23 13:32:02 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
Message-ID: <6F22685B.47139AA9.0000DB5D@aol.com>
In a message dated Mon, 22 Jul 2002 4:54:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ku8e1@yahoo.com writes:
> I really don't think the ARRL has a clue about demographics.
Actually they do. They spend money periodically to have
in-depth subscriber surveys done. I have an older one and it's quite
interesting. I think they got 2500 surveys back or something like that so I'd
say the results are valid.
> Contesting
> and DXing are by far the most popular amateur radio activities and
> these two groups are the ones buying the products that are advertising
> in QST.
You're right on that.
> Does this mean we are now going to see great articles like "
> How to Effectively Ragchew on the 75 Meter Band" in QST ????
>
Well, they'll be happy for you to send them a really neat article on
contesting or DXing - they actually print some but you have to submit
something.
> Maybe someone can clue me in why the ARRL takes the
> attitude that
> contesters/DXer's are the minority ????
Uh...cuz they are?!?
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Tue Jul 23 17:40:45 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <3D3D870D.80E36FD5@directvinternet.com>
Barry wrote:
> I find it surprising, and disappointing, that two of the directors, K1KI
> and N2FF, both of whom are contesters, voted to remove contest
> results from QST. While they are under no obligation to explain
> themselves, perhaps they would care to, anyway...
----------
I agree whole heartily with Barry's comments above, but since "we"
elected them, I belive we are entitled to a complete explanation.
--------------
> Personally, I find QST of little interest of value.
-----
Again, I agree 100%. Unfortunately, I am stuck with a life membership,
which at the price I paid, has been more than a great bargin. But, if
ARRL continues to fill its pages with "junk" devoted to the least
informed of amateurs, I will consider giving up that membership, just
to remove my name from the membership list.
I personally wish there was an alternative organization. I know that's
bound to be a wish, but I sincerely deplore the decline of this hobby
I have loved for 47 years.
I've said it before, but I believe the only way to change it is to
replace the Directors with those more representative of our interests.
73
Ed
>From w2up at mindspring.com Tue Jul 23 13:44:53 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <E17X2n2-0001iD-00@maynard.mail.mindspring.net>
On 23 Jul 02, at 8:51, Michael Keane, K1MK wrote:
> On Tue, 23 July 2002, "Barry " wrote
>
> > As the League is
> > interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> > priced membership: One for those who want QST, and another price for
> > those that don't. Comments?
>
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
>
> Michael Keane K1MK
> k1mk@arrl.net
> ________________________________________________
Part of my membership dues is put towards printing and mailing of
QST, which I would decline to receive, therefore saving that money.
Or, credit me towards NCJ, QEX or another league publication I
may receive...
Barry
--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Tue Jul 23 17:46:46 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHCECHDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <3D3D8876.141F9CE7@directvinternet.com>
jljarvis wrote:
>
> Guys,
snipped
> For those of you who doubt the insect chasing properties of this
> stuff...don't.
> a 50% sol'n w/water works well as a spray. We use it in VT against black
> flies and
> mosquitos, and in the Carribean for mustiques & no see 'ums. Works great.
>
> 73, Jim, n2ea
Don't know if this product contains it, but NBC ( I think ) ran a news
item a week or so ago, and it showed the results of testing. In short,
if the product doesn't contain an ingredient called "beet" (spelling
is probably wrong ), it's worthless as a repellent.
73
Ed
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 23 13:46:46 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <3D3D8876.10544064@gte.net>
"Michael Keane, K1MK" wrote:
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
Because "Fifty percent of dues is allocated to QST, the balance for
membership".
You don't want QST ... you pay half the current dues.
Ron
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 23 10:53:01 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <3D3D7810.9FBD9754@gte.net>
Message-ID: <20020723165301.46537.qmail@web10502.mail.yahoo.com>
It's too bad that contesters didn't support the NCJ in the past and
it had to be saved by the ARRL. We have the technology today that there
is not a need for national organizations like the ARRL or a magazine
like CQ need to sponsor our contests. Most of those who check the logs
and are sponsoring the awards are donating their time to do this
anyway.
NCJ would of been a great forum to report the results along with other
contesting related articles.....
Jeff
__________________________________________________
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>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Tue Jul 23 12:57:58 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] league bashing//tree hugging//results
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKECJDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>; from
jljarvis on Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 11:41:15AM -0400
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKECJDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <20020723115758.E19827@cs.utexas.edu>
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 11:41:15AM -0400, jljarvis wrote:
>
> If you find ARRL flawed, YOU are responsible. Become involved.
> And stop whining.
Engaging other League members and potential League members in open debate
about League policy IS becoming involved. Just because they don't agree
with you doesn't mean they are whining - they may just be trying to
persuade their fellows.
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From W0uo at cs.com Tue Jul 23 14:16:49 2002
From: W0uo@cs.com (W0uo@cs.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
Message-ID: <1a0.5b110a5.2a6ee981@cs.com>
Jim,
Skin so soft should keep the bugs out of your rig next year!!
Jim
W0UO/5
>From W0uo at cs.com Tue Jul 23 14:17:43 2002
From: W0uo@cs.com (W0uo@cs.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <64.226c649b.2a6ee9b7@cs.com>
Barry,
W0CP and, possibly, others are contesters as well
Jim
W0UO/5
>From jim at forsyth.net Tue Jul 23 11:07:59 2002
From: jim@forsyth.net (Jim Forsyth)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
References: <9C9D44629453D611874300508B91A4AC116EC4@hubs.us.abatos.com>
<3D3D77A9.FA876B88@gte.net>
Message-ID: <019e01c2326d$fe3e1220$81e4fea9@Hailsham>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Wetjen" <wd4ahz@gte.net>
To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
> Why is everyone missing the point?
When it seems like everybody is wrong except you, then you probably have it
backwards.
Jim, AF6O
>From jim at forsyth.net Tue Jul 23 11:12:37 2002
From: jim@forsyth.net (Jim Forsyth)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <019f01c2326d$ff10f280$81e4fea9@Hailsham>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Keane, K1MK" <k1mk@arrl.net>
To: <w2up@mindspring.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
> On Tue, 23 July 2002, "Barry " wrote
>
> > As the League is
> > interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> > priced membership:
> > One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> > Comments?
>
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
Duh!
Jim, AF6O
>From brnsmth at mo-net.com Tue Jul 23 18:35:30 2002
From: brnsmth@mo-net.com (brnsmth@mo-net.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST economics
Message-ID: <200207231734.g6NHYM5r005131@contesting.com>
OK, so I understand that only a small percentage of ham radio operators are
contesters. Fine. Remove the Contest results and put them online. How about
some suggestions for other cuts first? How about cutting VHF coverage down to
one page? Do I need a map every month of where Jim-Bob and Dave from Arkansas
and Oklahoma made contacts on 6 meters? I don't have a problem with VHF, I
operate it myself from time to time, but for goodness sake, be reasonable in
what you cut.
If participation in ARRL contests sees a noticable decline in the future, we
will know why.
On the other hand, if the ARRL is trying to focus on the majority of hams, the
should focus on the no-code techs. I mean, shouldn't they stop running code
practice at W1AW and stop running those complicated projects. Let's focus on
the majority of hams, most of the ARRL membership would like to know how to
become the guru of the repeater world, surely. So wouldn't an article on how
to erect a tower and guy it with dog chains and bailing wire be more suited to
this marketing strategy?
There are more pages in QST dedicated to traffic handling and ARES than
anything else (if you include the section reports of traffic handled.) What
percentage of hams actually handle traffic nowadays?
I say if you are going to appeal to the largest market, you need to discuss
important issues like, how to use 10 codes and how to convert 11 meter
equipment for Ham use, or better how to convert ham equipment to 11 meter use.
Why talk about HF radios at all?
Dayton's Hamvention seems to by going down this road too, so I won't stick it
all on the League. I am sure there are more shack-on-the-belt goons skulking
around Hara per square foot than anywhere in the world, but I think a little
common sense is called for.....
If they won't take the time to upgrade to HF, what makes you think they will
part with $$$ for equipment? The 2meter only crowd usually has everything they
need.
Your money is in the DX and Contesting markets. I hope, someday, they will
realize that the guys who buy are the ones you cater to. Vegas doesn't spend a
lot of money on comps to the ladies pulling the Nickel Slots.
Sorry for the rant,
It's been building up for a while now,
Brian
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>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Tue Jul 23 11:43:20 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] moving onward
Message-ID: <20020723174320.30634.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com>
Greetings!
As W3PP wrote... let's get back to contesting and
topics surrounding that topic. Getting more
people into contesting always reigns high on the
list of items discussed. The ARRL has acted,
reality is what it is. Let us accept it and move
onward.
For myself.. the question NOW is.. HOW do we as
active/interested (dare I say 'addicted')
contest types get the newbies into what we do?
Let me offer a short hand saying 'Each One.. Win
One!'
Every one of us has friends who are hams OR know
about what we do but don't contest or even know
what it really is.
They MAY know about the overview.. They MAY know
you as the guy who spends his weekends behind
the radio chasing contacts.
BUT.. Do they KNOW what it is that you like
about it? Do they KNOW what it is about
contesting
that lights your fuse and makes you expend the
hours/dollars in pursuit of the goals? Do they
KNOW how contesting can benefit THEM in their
amateur radio pursuits - be it emergency
communications, public service, enjoying
ragchewing on the HF bands, chasing DX?
If you visit a Club.. talk about the SIZZLE of
contesting.. not the boring (to others) stuff.
Sell the buzz.. the sizzle.. dangle some bait.
Your passion adn enthusiasm will come out
and you will attract folks.
Take those who rise to the 'bait' and offer to
show them more.. Treat it like big-game fish
fishing. If you have an eyeball wiht someone..
lay some 'bait' out and see if they nibble.
Regardless.. work on getting just one person
interested in coming to see. IF 10% of the
active contesters did this.. we'd have a sizable
increase. Success begets success.
The resources are out there. The Contest groups
are there.
Onward!
73
Chuck K3FT
not to sound to RAH-RAH.. but that's how I got
introduced to contesting. I'm an average type ham
when it comes to things - interested but need
someone to help me see the 'zing' and excite me
to want to come and see. Did it work? Ask W3PP
and WR3L. They both KNOW what the results of THAT
exposure lead to! <grin>
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Jul 23 15:11:21 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] possible error on my part
Message-ID: <02e501c23274$59717c80$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
>From reading the ARRL recount of the Board Meeting it appears the statistics
I cited as far as which Director voted for QST coverage are not may be in
error.
I believe the information I was given actually is the vote on Section News
being discontinued...does anyone know what the head count/who voted what way
was for the removal of contest results from our National Journal?
K4OJ
>From kilo.mike at gte.net Tue Jul 23 19:47:50 2002
From: kilo.mike@gte.net (Kris Mraz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <3D3DA4D6.F009AD@gte.net>
I think Michael was using sarcasm. QST has no value so why would your
membership dues be reduced if you don't receive it? I thought it was
funny, anyway.
Kris N5KM
> From: Ron Wetjen <wd4ahz@gte.net>
> To: "Michael Keane, K1MK" <k1mk@arrl.net>
> CC: w2up@mindspring.com, cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
>
> "Michael Keane, K1MK" wrote:
>
> > There'd be a price difference because... ?
>
> Because "Fifty percent of dues is allocated to QST, the balance for
> membership".
>
> You don't want QST ... you pay half the current dues.
>
> Ron
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Tue Jul 23 14:33:13 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
In-Reply-To: <3D3D8876.141F9CE7@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207231327570.29977-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On the Microchip PIC microcontroller application notes website is an idea
for a novel mosquito repeller. It simply produces a very quiet duplication
of the sound of a dragonfly's wings. The dragonfly is a natural predator
of the mosquito, and the theory is that the mosquitos will actually try to
avoid areas where they hear dragonflies flying.
I built one using a PIC12C508 and a small piezoelectric transducer.
Surprised me - the darned thing actually works!
73, Zack W9SZ
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, K4SB wrote:
> jljarvis wrote:
> >
> > Guys,
> snipped
> > For those of you who doubt the insect chasing properties of this
> > stuff...don't.
> > a 50% sol'n w/water works well as a spray. We use it in VT against black
> > flies and
> > mosquitos, and in the Carribean for mustiques & no see 'ums. Works great.
> >
> > 73, Jim, n2ea
>
> Don't know if this product contains it, but NBC ( I think ) ran a news
> item a week or so ago, and it showed the results of testing. In short,
> if the product doesn't contain an ingredient called "beet" (spelling
> is probably wrong ), it's worthless as a repellent.
>
> 73
> Ed
>From ford at cmgate.com Tue Jul 23 15:14:01 2002
From: ford@cmgate.com (Ford Peterson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <001501c2327d$1b5d5f00$8cee83d1@office>
On Tue, 23 July 2002, "Barry " wrote
>
> > As the League is
> > interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> > priced membership:
> > One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> > Comments?
>
To which Michael replied:
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
>
> Michael Keane K1MK
*****************************************
For those who never had the option of econ 101 in grade school, eliminating
QST from your "membership" would induce an increase in your dues. Why?
Because the more copies of QST that circulate, the greater the ad revenue.
Ever wonder why trade journals are free? For the same reason QST is free.
Yes, folks, it is free. Your QST costs nothing. Zippo. Zilch. We beat
this topic to death 6 months ago. The more copies they print, the more
valuable the ad space. Reduce the # of printed copies, you reduce revenues.
The current circulation numbers appear to make printing QST a freebee.
Reduce the numbers printed, well, it won't break even any more. I know it
may sound strange, but those are the raw facts of economics in the magazine
business.
Ford-N0FP
ford@cmgate.com
>From k0luz at topsusa.com Tue Jul 23 16:24:43 2002
From: k0luz@topsusa.com (K0LUZ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] possible error on my part
In-Reply-To: <02e501c23274$59717c80$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <LOBBKFICDFPNLHBMOBDKKEBIFJAA.k0luz@topsusa.com>
Believe I saw that that issue was decided by a voice vote. Therefore all
can claim they voted for keeping data in QST. Sounds like the votes taken
in Congress when they are raising their salaries.
Red
K0LUZ
-----Original Message-----
>From reading the ARRL recount of the Board Meeting it appears the statistics
I cited as far as which Director voted for QST coverage are not may be in
error.
I believe the information I was given actually is the vote on Section News
being discontinued...does anyone know what the head count/who voted what way
was for the removal of contest results from our National Journal?
K4OJ
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>From kc5ykx at swbell.net Tue Jul 23 15:23:55 2002
From: kc5ykx@swbell.net (Reid Hill)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
Message-ID: <0GZP002TBV7VHW@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net>
beet..vegitable
deet..chemical
Reid, KC5YKX
07/23/2002 5:46:46 PM, K4SB <hamcat@directvinternet.com> wrote:
>Don't know if this product contains it, but NBC ( I think ) ran a news
>item a week or so ago, and it showed the results of testing. In short,
>if the product doesn't contain an ingredient called "beet" (spelling
>is probably wrong ), it's worthless as a repellent.
>
>73
>Ed
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>
>From tree at kkn.net Tue Jul 23 13:28:06 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
Message-ID: <200207231928.g6NJS6311097@loja.kkn.net>
> Kid Q. Public picks up a QST at the local newsstand and skims through
> it. He sees a bunch of "low tech" articles and a lot of nice photos of
> people doing stuff with HT's. He thinks "geeks", and puts it back
> down. (He wont bother to visit the ARRL Web site - thinking it's more
> "geek" stuff.)
Is Kid Q. Public more likely to find a QST at a local newstand - or stumble
upon the ARRL Web Page on the net?
Tree
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 23 13:45:54 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207231945.g6NJjs723411@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary or to correct your post,
please visit: 3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
J75KG 1654 661 192 24 1,776,768 FCG
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
W7GG 362 300 44 9 265,742
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S LP
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 0 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
DH7KU 550 0 66 16 134,640 DK0UN University Rad
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW LP
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
W4BCG 75 0 40 6 9,400 TCG
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC
K6XX 1264 247 179 22 1,030,682 NCCC
UY5ZZ 991 304 123 956,032
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 14 463,606 HSDXA
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 k 118,230
S57UN(@S52ZW) 430 26 27 5 117,432 SCC
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
K1HT 399 123 139 8 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
DF1DX 141 114 92 13 71,300 RR DX
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 22 2,342,130 Other (specify when
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
RN4LP 0 1505 251 24 1,175,433
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
FM5GU 0 1492 99 9 609,246
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 162,047
DL4RCK 0 286 72 8 98,412 BCC
NQ4U 0 235 49 8 81,498 TCG
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
W7GG K7ZUM,KC7TWZ,W7GG
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 23 13:46:32 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207231946.g6NJkWU23420@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary or to correct your post,
please visit: 3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
KB8U 227 99 17 30,888
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
K8CC 130 72 6 12,240 MRRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
K0UK 2 2 27 6 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/2 QRP
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 QRP
N3AWS 5 4 3 20
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 23 13:47:40 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207231947.g6NJlea23429@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary or to correct your post,
please visit: 3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
W6YX 446 156 10 69,576 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
VA3DX 388 147 10 58,200
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 9 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
9A5W(@9A1A) 301 107 9 32,207
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K7ZUM 241 118 7 28,438 WVDXC
N1NB 240 105 7 25,200
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
W4BCG 222 107 9 23,754 TCG
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
W6ZL(BIGWAVE) 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
KD8FS 195 97 5 18,915
LP7H(LU9HS) 227 76 10 17,252
K3FH 176 98 8 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 6 14,964
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
K1XX 161 78 9 12,090
IK0HBN 150 57 9 8,550
WB0O 110 71 2 7,810
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 2 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K9SZ 48 33 1,584
K6OWL 46 34 2 1,564
F6FJE 24 23 5 552
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
W6YX K6ENT,N6DE,W6ZZZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 23 13:48:27 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207231948.g6NJmRr23438@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary or to correct your post,
please visit: 3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Rover LP
N4PN 676 75 400 57 20 20,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
N4GG 78 10 64 10 9 12,284 PVRC
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NJ8J 43 7 21 7 3 2,604 SECC
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op QRP
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 1 15 SECC
Operators:
(none)
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Tue Jul 23 15:46:21 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Board votes - get the facts right
References: <200207231609.g6NG9n208101@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <036b01c23281$9f7af280$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>There were two differnet votes. One was about the section news
>(which was a roll call vote). For the contest line scores, I
>quote the earlier post:
>
>>In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed that the
>>ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the results of
>>ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will appear in QST. The
>>change does not affect ARRL Field Day results, which will continue to be
>>published in the magazine.
>
>Therefore it would seem the current analysis of who did and who didn't vote
>for the contest removal is rather pointless. You are talking about who
>voted for the Section News issue.
>
> Tree N6TR
Interesting point ... which raises the question of WHY did they address
the Section News issue in a different manner than the Contest issue?
Other than political "protection" ... as they knew exactly what would
happen if the exact votes were known to the contesting membership?
Here we have our "elected leaders" hiding behind a voice vote so we
can't be for certain who did or did not oppose this. How wonderful ...
I thought "they" were doing this to reduce costs and page counts ... I
saw no mention of that in the official ARRL release. So where's the
$$$$ savings that 6 months ago was driving this 'must happen' issue?
And what's next to be removed?
A sad day for the hobby, the ARRL and for contesting especially ... it
will interesting to see what "they" do next.
73 Billy AA4NU ... one of those disappointed minority contestor types ...
>From tree at kkn.net Tue Jul 23 13:52:09 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Removing Field Day residue from my QST
Message-ID: <200207231952.g6NJq9S11438@loja.kkn.net>
Can I use Skin-So-Soft to remove the contest line scores from my old QSTs?
Tree
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Tue Jul 23 16:57:14 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] possible error on my part
In-Reply-To: <LOBBKFICDFPNLHBMOBDKKEBIFJAA.k0luz@topsusa.com>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDEEGNENAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
I'm surprised that the Section News debacle wasn't by voice vote
as well. The public service folks (traffic handlers, ARES types, etc.)
get precious little recognition as it is, and many were driven by a
desire to see their call in the magazine once a month (BPL, traffic
totals, etc.)
I know that during the 4 years I was Ohio Section Manager, if I missed
including a callsign for someone who reported traffic to me, I heard
about it loud and long.
Of course, traffic handlers are a smaller consituancy than even
contesters, so they can be "dissed" without fear of meaningful
retaliation, despite their direct link to the origins of the ARRL.
I expect that this was the straw that broke the camel's back in
the resignation of the Great Lakes Director, who had a long
history in the Field Organization before joining the Board. he
reportedly didn't even wait until after the halfway point of the
meeting to leave.
Gotta run the League as a business. Can't keep any of those
nostalgic links to the past.
Perhaps they can use the Wouff Hong as firewood this Winter
to conserve fuel and save a buck?
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of K0LUZ
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 15:25
> To: Jim White, K4OJ; fcg@mailman.qth.net; CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] possible error on my part
>
>
>
> Believe I saw that that issue was decided by a voice vote. Therefore all
> can claim they voted for keeping data in QST. Sounds like the votes taken
> in Congress when they are raising their salaries.
>
> Red
> K0LUZ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> From reading the ARRL recount of the Board Meeting it appears the
> statistics
> I cited as far as which Director voted for QST coverage are not may be in
> error.
>
> I believe the information I was given actually is the vote on Section News
> being discontinued...does anyone know what the head count/who
> voted what way
> was for the removal of contest results from our National Journal?
>
> K4OJ
>
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Tue Jul 23 17:04:40 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST and Contest Coverage
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723155910.024b8d90@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Everyone seems to have missed an important point in my post this morning,
so I'll repeat it here:
"It troubles me is that there is no indication of any intention to improve
in-print coverage of contesting topics, paralleling that in the discussion
on Section News. Perhaps one or more of the directors who reads this
reflector can explain further."
Unless and until I know what the Board's intentions in this regard are, I'm
not condemning anybody. It DOES concern me, though, that nothing was said,
because I know these news releases are carefully written. If no line
scores means no improvement/expansion in other contest coverage in QST,
then I would be upset.
As far as line scores are concerned, I'm willing to see them go on line,
particularly with the improvements that have been made. It seems to me
that the contester community is overwhelmingly more on-line than the total
ARRL member population, and that those young newbies we talk about
attracting are also likely to be able to access things on the web.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Tue Jul 23 16:11:31 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
References: <200207231928.g6NJS6311097@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <03a201c23285$23be2be0$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>Is Kid Q. Public more likely to find a QST at a local newstand - or stumble
>upon the ARRL Web Page on the net?
So why not have the option of BOTH?
You want to eliminate something that does not fit your agenda, then don't
support it, or LIMIT the public support of it ... and hope it will just go
away.
You want to grow a market, find new participants, then you EXPAND
your influence. You do not overlook any potential points of contact. You
constantly look for new opportunities to advance your cause ...
So which of the above describes the ARRL strategy for ... contesting?
We saw the handwriting on the wall 6 months ago, and we realized that
there was nothing that could be done to change it. The fuss then was
that "they" were going to do it without membership comment. And what
difference did all of our posts make? Nothing. Now it is a done deal ...
The potential of the website format is unknown, and what if another
"voice vote" is taken that says due to cost considerations it goes away?
What is certain is the loss of a known point of contact and positive
encouragement within the printed material to give new exposure of
contesting to future participants.
73 Billy AA4NU
>From w1wef at c4.net Tue Jul 23 17:52:08 2002
From: w1wef@c4.net (Jack Schuster)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST contest content
Message-ID: <3D3DC1F8.9426FD1C@c4.net>
I too like what I see on the web ...far more room there and more data
than we've ever seen in print anywhere. I still expect to see writeups
after each contest in QST...only the scores outside of the box scores
will move to the web.
Submit a general interest article on contesting for QST and see what
happens!
73 JACK W1WEF
>From w1wef at c4.net Tue Jul 23 18:17:06 2002
From: w1wef@c4.net (Jack Schuster)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re QST contest results
Message-ID: <3D3DC7D2.7BB26650@c4.net>
Ed...if you want to transfer your life membership to me for what you
paid for it, I'd be interested and I'm almost 65!
Too much is being made of this. The web reports are more thorough than
anything ANY magazine ever published. There WILL still be writeups on
contesting in QST. We get more than a magazine for our dues.I believe
there are something like 175,000 League members, and we are happy to see
3500 or so contest log submissions for a contest.
Way back when, I handled traffic and read the section reports. Who
knows...there might be more people reading them than contest results!
Let's lighten up on the Director bashing over this. They don't get paid
all that much. :>) JACK W1WEF
>From ford at cmgate.com Tue Jul 23 17:20:04 2002
From: ford@cmgate.com (Ford Peterson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Bashing
Message-ID: <001c01c2328e$bcdf70a0$a6ee83d1@office>
Have you ever been working a contest an run into somebody demanding that you
to crawl back under your rock? I have heard it. So have you...
There is a huge contingent of hams, our director's constituents too, that
hate contesters. They wouldn't stop on a road side for an opportunity to p_
e in your face if they saw you burning. They hate you. And I mean hate.
Why? The perception of bandwidth wasting I suspect. Possibly
inconvenience. Who knows. The point is they are vocal and perhaps the ARRL
is listening to that group at the same time they listen to this group --
(net = zero.)
The question is, how much of this is really economics and how much of it is
political? It would be impossible, politically speaking, to publicly
support the contest haters. We're too big a group. Likewise, it must be
coming increasingly difficult to support contesters -- because the contest
haters are growing in number. What better solution than to blame the
economics of the few pages in QST?
Any comments?
Ford-N0FP
ford@cmgate.com
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Tue Jul 23 18:53:54 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Cleanup--final.
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKEDADKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
I received multiple comments from folks who do not believe
that skin-so-soft repels mosquitos. As far as I am concerned,
it's an essential requirement of a dxpedition kit.
In 50% solution with water, this stuff IS effective. We have
used it sailing in the Caribean, for both mosquitos and no see 'ums.
We use it every day, here in Vermont, against both mosquitos and
black flies.
On days when I'm working on landscaping or antennas, I literally
shower in the stuff, at the end of my morning shower. Mosquitos land...
but get up and go away. Black flies don't even land.
And unlike OFF and Cutter, it doesn't contain insecticides which
can be absorbed into your skin. Both of those are NOT supposed
to be sprayed on skin.
Because this is of marginal relevance, it's my last word on the subject.
Don't believe me; try it yourself. Or don't.
Incidentally, it removes pine tar from clothes and hair, and, if you've
followed this thread, the residue of OFF from my laptop and 756PRO,
without damage.
Live long and prosper.
N2EA
>From k4ww at arrl.net Tue Jul 23 18:57:19 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <003501c23293$eaebd2e0$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
"Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com wrote: "Personally, I find QST of little
interest of value. As the League is interested in cost cutting, perhaps they
should consider a dual-priced membership"
As a Life Member, I will trade my subscription to QST for a lifetime
subscription to NCJ!
C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
>From windev at inetmarket.com Tue Jul 23 19:15:21 2002
From: windev@inetmarket.com (Gerry Hull)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
Message-ID: <20020723181319.5B76.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
any complaints about that?
73,
Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
>From kc5ykx at swbell.net Tue Jul 23 18:06:26 2002
From: kc5ykx@swbell.net (Reid Hill)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Removing Field Day residue from my QST
Message-ID: <0GZQ002YS2QQHO@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net>
Lighter fluid and a match.
07/23/2002 6:52:09 AM, Tree <tree@kkn.net> wrote:
>Can I use Skin-So-Soft to remove the contest line scores from my old QSTs?
>
>Tree
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>From memberlist at www.arrl.org Tue Jul 23 19:08:22 2002
From: memberlist@www.arrl.org (ARRL Web site)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARLB046 "Section News," Line Scores Moving from QST to Web
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020723180806.00b62448@mail.attbi.com>
ZCZC AG46
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 46 ARLB046
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT July 23, 2002
To all radio amateurs
SB QST ARL ARLB046
ARLB046 "Section News," Line Scores Moving from QST to Web
Starting next January, "Section News" and contest line score results
will appear on the ARRL Web site rather than in QST. Meeting July
19-20 in Windsor, Connecticut, the ARRL Board of Directors voted 9-6
to approve a resolution formally relocating "Section News" to the
ARRL Web site. "Section News" has appeared in the League's official
journal at least since 1919. The "Section News" Web sites--already
in place--will provide the officials of each ARRL section "the
capability of an up-to-date information resource that can be
tailored to the needs of their section," the resolution said.
The space freed up by relocating "Section News" will allow more
in-depth coverage of general news, public service activities and
"how-to" articles aimed at involving more amateurs in emergency
preparedness. Members unable to use the Web can request their
section's reports in hard-copy format.
The Board resolution noted that the past six months had given
members the opportunity to understand the reasons for relocating
"Section News," to discuss alternatives and to better understand
and see the advantages of the expanded content available on the Web
site.
Voting for the change were Directors Dick Isely, W9GIG (Central);
Jay Bellows, K0QB (Dakota); Frank Fallon, N2FF (Hudson); Wade
Walstrom, W0EJ (Midwest); Tom Frenaye, K1KI (New England); Dennis
Bodson, W4PWF (Roanoke); Walt Stinson, W0CP (Rocky Mountain); Art
Goddard, W6XD (Southwestern); and Coy Day, N5OK (West Gulf).
Directors Bernie Fuller, N3EFN (Atlantic); Rick Roderick, K5UR
(Delta); George Race, WB8BGY (Great Lakes); Greg Milnes, W7OZ
(Northwestern); Jim Maxwell, W6CF (Pacific); and Frank Butler, W4RH
(Southeastern), voted against the change.
In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed
that the ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the
results of ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will
appear in QST. The change does not affect ARRL Field Day results,
which will continue to be published in the magazine.
A Web site established earlier this year now includes, among other
features, a searchable database of contest line scores for members
and the ability to easily analyze individual and club scores.
There's also an on-line Soapbox to post comments and photos
immediately after a contest, as well as an expanded narrative for
each event. The ARRL also now offers members the free Contest Rate
Sheet newsletter, which focuses specifically on contesting.
NNNN
/EX
>From kcechura at umr.edu Tue Jul 23 18:33:16 2002
From: kcechura@umr.edu (Ken Cechura)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20020723173152.019fb268@pop3.umr.edu>
I see results posted up here all the time... think it's possible to post
somethign on UPCOMING contests (maybe just what it is, when it is, and
maybe the general theme...)?
just a dumb question.....
thanks
Ken
||==============================||
// Kenneth R. Cechura, KC9UMR \\
// kcechura@umr.edu \\
\\ Station Trustee, KF9ART //
\\ Freq Amateur Radio Team //
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>From jfunk at adams.net Tue Jul 23 18:17:41 2002
From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] bringing up newbies
Message-ID: <000101c2329a$bb836ca0$04288ad8@adams.net>
In regards to the QST contesting coverage, the following are my opinions,
free and worth every penny:
1) The change to web coverage from print coverage for line scores is
happening. We'll see how it works.
2) ARRL is more than QST. I'm a life member (recently). I'm not gonna ask
for my money back.
3) Contesting will be saved by the contest community, not by magazine
coverage.
a) The "each one bring one" approach is superb.
b) Start young. Look at BARC's "Kids Day". Not a contest. Read the
comments from those who submit logs. "When can we do this again?" "Do we
have to wait a whole six months?" These are the *kids'* comments, not the
old gray guys that were the control ops.
c) Give a program. Not many clubs will refuse a program on contesting
at a monthly meeting. Most program chairmen are desperate for something to
fill a slot. There are probably dozens of members of the contesting
community who have material they'd love to share, complete with slides,
tapes, Power Points, you-name-it.
d) Be a mentor at Field Day. Forego your normal operating time (if
necessary) to sit by a newcomer and coach him/her through some contacts on
SSB or CW.
e) Teach a class. Most of the members of our local club who are active
contesters came up through our club-sponsored licensing classes; and yes,
many started as no-codes.
f) Join a contesting club. If you're a member of SMC, I don't have to
explain this. If you're not, check the number of SMC entries in the last
two Sweepstakes....
g) Host a multi-op. NG9R and I invited KC0MYA (licensed two
months....no-code) here for ARRL VHF in June. He operated several hours and
had a ball...and conditions were lousy. We told him HF was even more fun.
"Wow, I've gotta start studying my code!" He has. Should be a General in a
couple of weeks. AB9DU was licensed a year ago in April. We got him on the
air for Field Day two months later. Not a contest. See how many contacts
you can make. Can you get through the pileup on that KL7? Wanna try CQing?
I'll log for you. Whaddaya think of this logging program? Pretty neat, eh?
Not a contest. Uh-huh.... He's Extra Class, DXCC in one year, goes nuts in
contests, Lighthouse Days, etc.
Sorry I've gotten carried away here. But we can do this....
73, Jim N9JF
>From k1my at msn.com Tue Jul 23 16:59:43 2002
From: k1my@msn.com (Bruce Makas)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] line scores
Message-ID: <032401c2329c$a2fa6100$0101a8c0@pavilion>
In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed
that the ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the
results of ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will
appear in QST. The change does not affect ARRL Field Day results,
which will continue to be published in the magazine.
************************
And of course, since there was a "voice vote" those in favor and those
against will be kept a secret from the membership. Why the secrecy on this
emotional issue? Afraid of reprisals?
Bruce
>From k5zd at charter.net Wed Jul 24 00:20:48 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
In-Reply-To: <3D3D77A9.FA876B88@gte.net>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDCECIDLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Or...
John Q. Public picks up a QST at the local newsstand and skims through it.
He sees a bunch of pages of call signs and numbers. He thinks "boring", and
puts it back down. Jane Q. Ham pretty much does the same thing when QST
arrives in the mail.
Let's face it. If your call isn't included, line scores are pretty boring.
Writeups that just say callsign 1 beat callsign 2 are also pretty dry and
boring. I actually find myself reading through NCJ thinking there are too
many contest scores in there!
For me, the most entertaining part of QST these days is the section up front
with the photos of people doing interesting stuff. The ARRL has been active
in recruiting people to take on the job of contest write-ups. If you have a
talent for generating excitement through the written word, contact N1ND and
volunteer to help! If you aren't a writer, submit some pictures and fun
anecdotes about what happened in the contest to N1ND or the appointed
contest reporter.
QST is full color throughout. No reason we can't put some of that to use in
promoting the fun, thrill, and competition of radio sport.
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ron Wetjen
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 15:35 PM
> To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
>
>
> Schulz Jonathan wrote:
>
> > My take on the whole thing; if the Web coverage could give us the
> > results in a more timely manner and continue to be as good as the
> > ones I have seen so far, (SS, ARRL 160) I couldn't care less that
> > they are dropping line scores in QST.
>
> Why is everyone missing the point?
>
> Kid Q. Public picks up a QST at the local newsstand and skims through
> it. He sees a bunch of "low tech" articles and a lot of nice photos of
> people doing stuff with HT's. He thinks "geeks", and puts it back
> down. (He wont bother to visit the ARRL Web site - thinking it's more
> "geek" stuff.)
>
> On the other hand, he runs across something about a "contest" which
> catches his eye - COOL! He buys QST, and reads further, and perhaps
> sparks his interest in Amateur Radio and getting involved in
> contesting. That "hook" will no longer be there.
>
> If people don't even know something exists, how will they find out about
> it?
>
> Ron
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From w7why at harborside.com Wed Jul 24 01:48:33 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723084201.0248a960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <3D3DEB51.AF3EB6AF@harborside.com>
Pete Smith wrote:
>Starting next January, "Section News" and
> contest line score results will appear on the ARRL Web site >rather than in
> QST.
Probably in the "members only" section, I suppose.
Tom W7WHY
>From w7why at harborside.com Wed Jul 24 01:58:36 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <3D3DEDAC.5B75C2FB@harborside.com>
"Michael Keane, K1MK" wrote:
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
Because not everyone is interested in being a member of the ARRL,
but they might want to read the mag (for what reason excapes me).
Tom W7WHY
>From w7why at harborside.com Wed Jul 24 02:10:59 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] league bashing//tree hugging//results
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKECJDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <3D3DF093.46179D29@harborside.com>
jljarvis wrote:
> If you find ARRL flawed, YOU are responsible. Become involved.
> And stop whining.
>
I'm responsible? How do you figure that? Involved with what? I
didn't push for codeless licenses or dumbing down the tests. I
was a VE for years but quit because nobody wants to learn code
any more. I belonged to RACES, but nobody could agree where the
station should be or who should be the "boss." Got sick of that!
Went to field day last year and they had a TS-520 on the table
that nobody knew how to tune up (including some general class
operators).
Why doesn't the ARRL just publish the whole magazine on the web?
Oh yeah, they wouldn't get any ad money. As long as they can
keep a token of a magazine going, they can still put ad's in it.
Till the radio companies get tired supporting a magazine that
more and more people don't want to read anyway. Then what?
Tom W7WHY
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Tue Jul 23 21:30:16 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST and Contest Coverage
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723155910.024b8d90@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <063301c232b1$b18cf380$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>Unless and until I know what the Board's intentions in this regard are, I'm
>not condemning anybody. It DOES concern me, though, that nothing was said,
>because I know these news releases are carefully written. If no line
>scores means no improvement/expansion in other contest coverage in QST,
>then I would be upset.
Pete,
If I were planning the strategy of this series of miss-steps, I'd do
exactly what has been done. Do what you need to do, but allow for
a rather vague and at the time of decision, "unknown" response.
There's tremendous power in such a strategy view. They can take
a wait and see response, weather out the initial unloading of emotion,
and then do the very minimum amount of damage control needed.
That's the day to day Corporate 101 strategy and control process.
We've got some "good contest folks" inside the ARRL ... that are now
caught in the middle of this silent zone. Let's keep that in mind. Those
are the ones who will be given the challenge to put a positive spin on
what just occurred. If they don't ... then look for more departures from
members, directors, and paid staff there.
What's next ... no more support for CW? Wider phone bands then?
73 Billy AA4NU (who is still wondering ... where are the cost savings?)
>From k4vud at hotmail.com Wed Jul 24 02:53:50 2002
From: k4vud@hotmail.com (Charles Harpole)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Cabrillio format reporting problems
Message-ID: <LAW2-F100wXCPa8lMES00011033@hotmail.com>
Call me a "giver upper" or whatever, but I give up on reporting my contest
logs in Cabrillio format. I purchased AGAIN a new version of CT and have
tried to generate the proper log format acceptable to CQ and ARRL. I have
never gotten it right. I have listened to and read advice from well-meaning
helpers. I have still not gotten it right. I have had generous HQ guys
convert my logs for me. But, I did not get it right by muself.
At this point in my ham career/interest, I just do not have the gumption or
whatever it takes to mess with it. Call me old fashioned, but I just like
to print out the log on real paper and mail that in along with my REAL PAPER
signed cover form.
Since that is no longer acceptable, for the time being, I will simply love
to run contests and keep my logs home in my dadburned balky computer. I
will try to find the score lists, where ever the sponsors POST them, and
imaginatively insert my score and enjoy my placement as good as it may be.
My effort would not be printed in the magazines anymore anyway. Sorry FCG,
my dab of numbers will not join yours, as much as my wishing could make it
so. 73,
Charles Harpole
k4vud@hotmail.com
_________________________________________________________________
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>From ford at cmgate.com Tue Jul 23 21:57:15 2002
From: ford@cmgate.com (Ford Peterson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Bashing
References: <001c01c2328e$bcdf70a0$a6ee83d1@office>
Message-ID: <007401c232b5$70416b00$0300a8c0@Lab>
The question is, how much of this QST stuff is really economics and how
much of it is
political? It would be impossible, politically speaking, to publicly
support the contest haters. We're too big a group. Likewise, it must be
coming increasingly difficult to support contesters -- because the contest
haters are growing in number. What better solution than to blame the
economics of the few pages in QST?
Any comments?
Ford-N0FP
ford@cmgate.com
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>
>From k7qq at netzero.net Wed Jul 24 04:49:05 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] K3EST E-Mail Address??
Message-ID: <00f701c232c5$45269de0$79f93442@k7qq>
Here is the one I have
K3EST@cqww.com
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary K9GS" <GaryK9GS@wi.rr.com>
To: "CQ Contest Mail Reflector" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:46
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K3EST E-Mail Address??
> Does anyone have K3EST's correct e-mail address??
>
> Both the mailto on the CQ Magazine web page and the K3EST@mother.com
bounce.
>
>
> 73,
> Gary
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> K9GS
> Gary Schwartz email: k9gs@arrl.net
> Check out K9NS on the web http://www.qsl.net/k9ns/
> Society of Midwest Contesters (SMC) GMDXA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
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>From wc4h at itis.net Wed Jul 24 00:37:27 2002
From: wc4h@itis.net (Carl - WC4H)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [FCG] Cabrillio format reporting problems
References: <LAW2-F100wXCPa8lMES00011033@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c232c3$703b4820$5000a8c0@winxp>
Hmmm. I created mine no problem. There's nothing special to do.
Just use the "writelog" command from the program. Then go to the directory
where you log is at and you'll see a file k4vud.log.
Email it to the contest sponsor. You're done!
Caveats:
1. You filled out the program info on the first screen of CT.
2. You entered whatever the contest sponsor says to enter in your subject
line.
Carl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Harpole" <k4vud@hotmail.com>
To: <fcg@mailman.qth.net>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:53 PM
Subject: [FCG] Cabrillio format reporting problems
> Call me a "giver upper" or whatever, but I give up on reporting my contest
> logs in Cabrillio format. I purchased AGAIN a new version of CT and have
> tried to generate the proper log format acceptable to CQ and ARRL. I have
> never gotten it right. I have listened to and read advice from
well-meaning
> helpers. I have still not gotten it right. I have had generous HQ guys
> convert my logs for me. But, I did not get it right by muself.
> At this point in my ham career/interest, I just do not have the gumption
or
> whatever it takes to mess with it. Call me old fashioned, but I just like
> to print out the log on real paper and mail that in along with my REAL
PAPER
> signed cover form.
> Since that is no longer acceptable, for the time being, I will simply love
> to run contests and keep my logs home in my dadburned balky computer. I
> will try to find the score lists, where ever the sponsors POST them, and
> imaginatively insert my score and enjoy my placement as good as it may be.
> My effort would not be printed in the magazines anymore anyway. Sorry
FCG,
> my dab of numbers will not join yours, as much as my wishing could make it
> so. 73,
>
> Charles Harpole
> k4vud@hotmail.com
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> The Florida Contest Group: http://www.qsl.net/fcg/ or
http://www.fcg.club
> Post your scores: http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
> FCG QSL Cards: http://www.qth.com/star/FCG
> FCG Cluster Information: http://www.qsl.net/fcg/cluster.html
> FCG Shirts & Hats: http://www.qsl.net/fcg/cart.html
> FCG@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/fcg
>
>From k3ft at erols.com Wed Jul 24 00:22:12 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] vote on removing contest items from QST
References: <3D3DF96C.46A2@erols.com> <3D3DFA0D.2993@erols.com>
<3D3E14D7.358A@erols.com> <3D3E2336.77FE@erols.com> <3D3E241F.508E@erols.com>
Message-ID: <3D3E2B74.5363@erols.com>
Hi!
Since my concerns about why votes were taken in one area yet not in another
along with
other questions were elevated, I decided to ask EACH director who was there for
some
solid, honest answers. Here is what I asked each and every one. I thought many
of you
have the same questions. Perhaps I will receive responses and that will provide
us all
some accurate 'from the horse's mouths' answers to the questions we all have.
All I want is honest truthful answers. I may not agree with the decision, but I
can
handle the truth. I may be out of bounds asking the questions, but as a member
of the
group I believe we have the duty to inquire so as to be informed as to what our
elected
representatives are up to. Keep everything straight and on the up and up.
I'll let you all know what I get back. I figure posting it here will give
everyone the
'straight scoop' that I get and help eliminate the 'I heard..' 'He said..' 'I
think I
read...' syndrome we are all aware of. I will provide complete sourcing so you
will be
able to track it for yourself.
73
CHuck K3FT
==================================
Hello,
As a paid-up, currently enrolled, ARRL member I need to ask a question. I would
appreciate an honest answer. I ask in seriousness, nnot seeking to bash or cast
aspersions or dissension. I really want to know as a member of the ARRL.
I noted that the vote was recorded for the removal of section news but only a
VOICE VOTE
(no record of vote) was taken on the issue of removing contest items from QST
and
placing them on the web.
#1 Question - How did you vote on the removal of contest items from QST?
#2 Question - Why was there a recorded roll call vote for Section news removal
and NOT
for contest items removal? Why was one considered 'less necessary to record the
vote' than the other since both involved 'niche' components of the total ARRL
membership and QST page allocation? (The cynical ones scream 'Political cover!'
but I am
inclined to wait for the answer from those who were there before I draw any
conclusions.)
#3 Question - Who voted YEA (FOR removal) and NAY (AGAINST removal) of contest
items
from QST?
#4 Question - Has the 3 proposal item produced by Ward Silver N0AX ( at the
request of
the ARRL when the issue of removing QST coverage of contest items came up) been
recieved, read, and has any comments been made as to the proposal's validity and
possible adoption by ARRL?
Again, I am seeking honest answers to some very tough questions. Many of the
ARRL
members who have spoken publicly (and privately) have commented on the fact
that the
more publicized issue (contest items) was unrecorded while the less
controverisal item
(section news) WAS recorded. To them.. it contains a ratehr intense aroma of
rather
rancid fish and gives grave concern as to the relevance of ARRL to many of them.
Personally.. I am in favor of ARRL, it's all we have and it is needed.. BUT I
am not a
rose colored glasses guy who says 'My League.. regardless of whatever happens!'
I
support the ARRL but I MUST question those in charge responsible for handling
things for
me to be open, upfront and above board... even if it risks 'insulting the
higher ups'.
It keeps the membership honest and keeps the lines of communications open both
ways.
I have no perception that you would be anything else than responsible, ethical,
and
open, and would appreciate aanswers to my questions.
If the ARRL mgmt has said you cannot comment or otherwise.. that's fine. If
it's the
truth.. then it's the truth and I can and do respect that. However, I would
like to
know the reality and the truth.
Thanks for reading. I look forward to hearing from you .
vy 73
Chuck K3FT
>From swca at swbell.net Wed Jul 24 05:45:14 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <20020723165301.46537.qmail@web10502.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <014501c232f6$d0ea6100$0100a8c0@TL01>
>It's too bad that contesters didn't support the NCJ in
>the past and it had to be saved by the ARRL.
Spilled milk. Yes, it is too bad.
I would also have preferred the NCJ to have remained unaffiliated with the
ARRL (I published it in the 70s). I was concerned we would lose a valuable
non-ARRL-centered forum.
But now, thanks to the efforts of the web-pioneers among us (Trey and Bill
come to mind, and we all know there are a bunch of others), we have got a
non-ARRL-centered forum now which is much more powerful than any print
periodical ever was or ever will be.
I don't think this "QST pages" thing is a big deal, and more power to the
ARRL for exercising responsible cost management. Every time I read about
how the ARRL responded to an FCC proposal, which is frequent and
comprehensive, THAT is when I say "my ARRL dollars at work."
Any more, I could take or leave QST, but that is of relatively little
importance to me. I trust the new marketing and development people to use
QST however they have to, to best ensure the future of ham radio.
"The future is the WEB, man."
Mark, N5OT
>From jim at forsyth.net Wed Jul 24 05:21:12 2002
From: jim@forsyth.net (Jim Forsyth)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Vote
Message-ID: <005a01c23304$3aa36df0$81e4fea9@Hailsham>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Art Goddard" <w6xd@attbi.com>
To: "Jim Forsyth" <jim@forsyth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: Vote
> Jim-
>
> Thanks for your interest in ARRL Board activities!
>
> I support the Board's decision to complete the relocation of ARRL contest
> line scores to the ARRL web.
>
> 73, Art W6XD
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Wed Jul 24 10:04:42 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <20020723181319.5B76.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDEEHJENAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Gerry Hull
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 18:15
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
>
>
> Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
> results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
> any complaints about that?
>
> 73,
>
> Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
Perhaps because CQ is not the membership journal of our
organization, but simply a business.
CQ is not answerable to any of us, but ARRL should be.
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Wed Jul 24 10:11:37 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] sure...
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHIEDFDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Sure....
but you'll smell like a wuss!
Jim, N2EA
From: Tree <tree@kkn.net>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Removing Field Day residue from my QST
Can I use Skin-So-Soft to remove the contest line scores from my old QSTs?
Tree
-0-
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Wed Jul 24 10:28:11 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest & QST bashing, redux
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHIEDGDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
From: "Ford Peterson" <ford@cmgate.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Bashing
Have you ever been working a contest an run into somebody demanding that you
to crawl back under your rock? I have heard it. So have you...
There is a huge contingent of hams, our director's constituents too, that
hate contesters. They wouldn't stop on a road side for an opportunity to p_
e in your face if they saw you burning. They hate you. And I mean hate.
Why? ... Who knows. The point is they are vocal and perhaps the ARRL
is listening to that group at the same time they listen to this group --
(net = zero.)
The question is, how much of this is really economics and how much of it is
political? It would be impossible, politically speaking, to publicly
support the contest haters. We're too big a group. Likewise, it must be
coming increasingly difficult to support contesters -- because the contest
haters are growing in number. What better solution than to blame the
economics of the few pages in QST? Any comments?
-0-
Yes. My monitoring during the week, at odd hours, suggests that the bands
are increasingly UNoccupied. It is true that contests produce bedlam
and disorder, and contention for frequencies, and I'm sure they seriously
anger people in various constituencies.
It has been variously observed that contesters are a)opinion leaders,
b)majority
constituents of ARRL, c)majority of licensees, and d) better trained
communicators,
e) with better equipped stations. And they smell good, too, I suppose.
Without
data to prove any of that, all arguments are only words in a sea of words.
Is there survey information available from CQ, QST, Contesting.com, and other
sites
which, when assembled, might allow us to make some defensible general
assertions
about the 'sport' and the dimensions of its community? Does this suggest a
project for someone?
For the record, I favor the online reporting of timely results, the
conservation of
trees, and printing more interesting stories about contests, rather than line
scores, which generate about as much enthusiasm as pickled beets.
Rather than bashing the ARRL directors for leading....let's encourage them
to CONTINUE to lead, by expanding the editorial content.
N2EA
>From n2mg at eham.net Wed Jul 24 11:44:54 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
Message-ID: <200207241344.g6ODir5r023224@contesting.com>
You can get upcoming contest info from several online sources already,
so there's really no need (and probably a bad idea) to repost the info
here.
Some online calendars:
http://www.sk3bg.se/contest/
http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/weeklycont.html
http://www.contesting.com
http://www.arrl.org/contests/calendar.html
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/awards.html
If you like email reminders, try the contest Rate Sheet that the ARRL
and NØAX puts out
http://www.arrl.org/contests/rate-sheet/about.html
73 Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by Ken Cechura <kcechura@umr.edu> on Tue, 23 Jul
2002 17:33:16 -0700.
> I see results posted up here all the time... think it's
> possible to post somethign on UPCOMING contests (maybe just
> what it is, when it is, and maybe the general theme...)?
>From n2mg at eham.net Wed Jul 24 11:53:42 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <200207241353.g6ODrg5r023359@contesting.com>
Tom Osborne wrote:
>
> Pete Smith wrote:
>
> > Starting next January, "Section News" and contest line score
> > results will appear on the ARRL Web site >rather than in QST.
>
> Probably in the "members only" section, I suppose.
ARRL has been publishing contest results in Members Only for the first
month or so, but then moving them to the open section. So non-members
have been able to get a free ride (if one were willing to wait a
month) - no need to join or to even buy QST to see the results. I
suspect this procedure will continue.
Mike N2MG
>From k2av at contesting.com Wed Jul 24 10:57:14 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020723173152.019fb268@pop3.umr.edu>
Message-ID: <004901c2331a$04214250$0500a8c0@swift>
Do a Google search on "ham radio contest calendar" and pick the one
you like the best. Keep a "bookmark" or "favorites" entry (or whatever
your browser calls it). They have the rules for everything and all
that goes on in any given week. That makes it just a click away.
Would be a waste of bandwidth to be constantly shoving it into
people's email boxes.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Cechura" <kcechura@umr.edu>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:33 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
> I see results posted up here all the time... think it's possible to
post
> somethign on UPCOMING contests (maybe just what it is, when it is,
and
> maybe the general theme...)?
>
> just a dumb question.....
>
> thanks
> Ken
>
> ||==============================||
> // Kenneth R. Cechura, KC9UMR \\
> // kcechura@umr.edu \\
> \\ Station Trustee, KF9ART //
> \\ Freq Amateur Radio Team //
> ||==============================||
>
>
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>
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Wed Jul 24 10:07:36 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020723173152.019fb268@pop3.umr.edu>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJMEGJEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Ken,
The info is available 24/7 online:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/calendar.html?year=2002
http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/weeklycont.html
http://www.sk3bg.se/contest/
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/awards.html
http://www.ncjweb.com/contests.php
There's also the e-mailed ARRL Contester's Rate Sheet newsletter, edited by
Ward Silver/N0AX, containing close-in log due dates, upcoming contests and
articles about contests and contesters. See
http://www.arrl.org/contests/rate-sheet/
The Contester's Rate Sheet lists the top 3 URL's above as sources for its
calendar listing of upcoming contests (with descriptions, URL's, etc.).
73,
dale, kg5u
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ken Cechura
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 19:33
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
>
>
> I see results posted up here all the time... think it's possible to post
> somethign on UPCOMING contests (maybe just what it is, when it is, and
> maybe the general theme...)?
>
> just a dumb question.....
>
> thanks
> Ken
>
> ||==============================||
> // Kenneth R. Cechura, KC9UMR \\
> // kcechura@umr.edu \\
> \\ Station Trustee, KF9ART //
> \\ Freq Amateur Radio Team //
> ||==============================||
>
>
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> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From Jimk8mr at aol.com Wed Jul 24 11:19:08 2002
From: Jimk8mr@aol.com (Jimk8mr@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] One Month and Counting
Message-ID: <119.14dca54c.2a70115c@aol.com>
Summer as always seems to go too quickly. In fact, so quickly it is now only
one month to the 2002 Ohio QSO Party, on Saturday, August 24.
What to do about it?
1. Mark you calendar so you don't get stuck having to visit your wife's
relatives that day. Or make plans to visit those relatives in Ohio.
2. If you use WriteLog, get the new module for the OQP. This was written by
Steve, N9OH, and is available at
<A
HREF="http://www.xnet.com/~sjwoodr/ham/modules";>http://www.xnet.com/~sjwoodr/ham/modules</A>
3. If you don't have software that supports OQP, get the free demo version
of NA which does. This can be downloaded at the OQP web site,
www.mrrc.net/oqp
4. For the latest info on who's going to be active, what mobiles are going
where, etc., subscribe to the OQP reflector. This can be done at the OQP web
site, or by sending a blank email message to
oqp-subscribe@mrrc.net
You'll get the usual confirmation message to which you just need to hit reply
and send.
5. Be ready to have fun working all us OH stations, including one of the
best groups of mobiles of all the state QSO parties.
See you in the Ohio QSO Party, Saturday, August 24. For people in Florida,
that's 31 days away!
Jim K8MR
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>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Wed Jul 24 09:08:53 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Answers to questions I asked.
Message-ID: <20020724150853.80770.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com>
Greetings.
I recieved a multitude of replies from over 50%
of the Directors in response to my request for
answers to my questions. Many were long,
detailed, and contained a lot of information on
how the process worked, how it was handled, the
procedures/protocols involved and much
information which fleshed out the issue for me.
here is a summary of what I received. Although
not all have replied as of this time (and I agree
the time has been short). I believe what I DID
recieve is representative of what the others will
present me due to the consistency of response in
that each person's perspective and information
had the same basic foundation and configuration.
I SENSE NO colusion in responses because it would
be damn difficult to get all those folks to agree
to lie, prevaricate, or shade the truth in this
matter.
Therefore, I accept what they provided as true,
accurate, and straight shooting. That is what I
expected and I was not dissapointed.Therefore, I
believe I can draw some conclusions which I
present for your consideration.
First and foremost.. EACH respondent who answered
me was exceedinly polite, open and honest with
answers, information, and 'extra info' to flesh
out the skeleton of information that I available
to me. Several (including my own Director, N3EFN,
took me on a 'handholding tour' of theprocess and
explained nooks, crannies, and the eddy currents
involved. He didn't have to do that... but he
did. THis further amplified my belief that all
were shooting straight and I could rely on what
they were telling me.
Each one, who responded with information, took
the time to explain their position and provide
some thinking as to what was going on.
Therefore, I wish to thank them all PUBLICLY for
the responses and I find myself reinforced that
things were done above board and without any
shenanigans.
OK.. Here's what I have.
First.. the vote. Several of the Directors
reported that the vote to move the line scores to
the Web was a UNANIMOUS vote. This answered
questions #1 and #2 fully. These were the two
main ones I wanted to know about.
Several noted that the debate over the issue was
'hearty and lively'.
They confirmed that all votes are voice votes and
not all are recorded. Since the vote was
unanimous no record was made.
(ASIDE - I DID responsd that had a simple one
line entry in the public announcement said 'The
vote to move the contest line scores was
unanimously in favor' it would have elimintaed my
need to ask the questions.)
They all retirerated that now that the decision
is made, they will support the decision and move
ahead with the actions necessary to implement the
changes agreed to.
As to having read/seen N0AX (et al) proposal, the
basic comment was that theywere aware of it, but
due to the fact it was presented at/quite near
the meeting they had not had time to read it
fully. This is logical and Ward did confirm that
it was submitted right about the time of the
meeting.
My questions have been answered to my
satisfaction. Each Director who responded did so
with the attitude that my questions were asked in
the spirit of wanting to know - as I intended
them to be recieved. Given the short fuse (Sent
at midnight EDST the previous night and answers
recieved by 10AM this morning!) it was over 50
percent which is good!
Any negative comments/observations expressed in
my original questions were only expressed as an
indicator of what was being heard/read by me in
public/private forums and was not MY opinion or
understanding. I felt they should know what a
simple 'trench-warrior' was hearing.
IN summary.. I am satisfied and my questions have
been answered fully. I have no further concerns
with the way things were done. I further applaud
their responsiveness and openess in filling me in
with the way things are done and handled.
So.. to the Directors.. thank you very much for
your responses.. your desire to inform.. and your
speed in responding.
This may not still the debates in teh Contest
community.. but at least it provides a public
forum for discussion.
vy 73
Chuck K3FT
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>From k0luz at topsusa.com Wed Jul 24 12:50:51 2002
From: k0luz@topsusa.com (K0LUZ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <200207241353.g6ODrg5r023359@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <LOBBKFICDFPNLHBMOBDKMEDIFJAA.k0luz@topsusa.com>
In a sense, this is one positive for promoting more contest activity
because now the non-member who participates in an ARRL contest can see his
score published on the Internet. As a non-member and not a recipient of
QST, I assume it was difficult to find out how they had scored compared to
others in the same category. This is what is called observing "the glass is
half full."
73
Red
K0LUZ
-----Original Message-----
Tom Osborne wrote:
>
> Pete Smith wrote:
>
> > Starting next January, "Section News" and contest line score
> > results will appear on the ARRL Web site >rather than in QST.
>
> Probably in the "members only" section, I suppose.
ARRL has been publishing contest results in Members Only for the first
month or so, but then moving them to the open section. So non-members
have been able to get a free ride (if one were willing to wait a
month) - no need to join or to even buy QST to see the results. I
suspect this procedure will continue.
Mike N2MG
_______________________________________________
CQ-Contest mailing list
CQ-Contest@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Wed Jul 24 13:17:18 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W4 CW Ops
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207240957170.16252-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Ya'll,
I'm organizing some teams for the upcoming CW NAQP on August 3rd. We
would welcome anyone in W4 in any capacity to join us. We will probably
have at least 2 part-timer teams.
73
Bill, W4AN
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Wed Jul 24 12:49:40 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Answers to questions I asked.
References: <20020724150853.80770.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <021b01c23332$1b43ba40$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>First.. the vote. Several of the Directors
>reported that the vote to move the line scores to
>the Web was a UNANIMOUS vote. This answered
>questions #1 and #2 fully. These were the two
>main ones I wanted to know about.
Sorry ... seems "several of the directors" may have
a problem with their short term memory loss here ...
There was ONE that did not cave in to this vote!
K5UR voted against it ... and he was the only one.
So ... that may skew the rest of the integrity of their
responses to your questions. <sigh> Good grief, if
they can't or won't even recall how the vote went ...
73 Billy AA4NU (cost savings? what cost savings?)
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Wed Jul 24 12:59:50 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <20020723181319.5B76.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Message-ID: <025401c23333$8715d9a0$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
>results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
>any complaints about that?
Apples and oranges here Gerry,
One is a for-profit business ... they can move the WW results to billboards
alongside the road if they chose to do so. Or they can chose to not print
the results, or not to continue support the contests. It's their ball game.
The other is our national organization that months ago stated these
steps were needed for financial reasons ... yet ... there was NO mention
of that in the recent release. Now, whose ball game is this?
73 Billy AA4NU
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Wed Jul 24 14:38:08 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest/DX Program at Austin Summerfest 2002
Message-ID: <20020724133808.G29418@cs.utexas.edu>
CTDXCC, the Central Texas DX and Contest Club, once again is pleased to
present an outstanding program at the Austin Summerfest amateur radio
convention in Austin, Texas, 2-3 August, 2002. The program this year will
feature one of the best DXpeditions of the past year, plus two different
aspects of the popular IARU contest held in mid-July.
The VP8THU/VP8GEO "micro-lite" back-to-the-basics DXpedition included a
proven international team to both the South Sandwich Islands and to South
Georgia on the RV Braveheart. George Fremin, K5TR, one of the excellent
operators in the DXpedition, and the group's computer expert, will give a
personal view of his experience, and tips on cracking big pileups from the
home side.
The program on the WRTC 2002 will be presented by Jim George, N3BB, who
was a referee at the 2002 Helsinki, Finland competition, and a competitor at
the 2000 WRTC in Slovenia. Jim will show photographs of the event and the
actual operation by one of the 52 teams, plus comment on the off-line
discussions during bull sessions, meals and tours. He has some
recommendations on improving your contest capability as distilled from
years of contesting experience, and advice from the world class operators
at the WRTC.
Richard King, K5NA, will present the W1AW/5 operation which honored the
Austin area by hosting the ARRL headquarters operation for the 2002 IARU
HF World Chhampionship. Six terrific central Texas stations, K5NA, K5TR,
N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT operated the IARU as W1AW/5 on all twelve bands,
both SSB and CW. Learn about these stations and their operators, and how
they did (which was very well), plus the innovative internet and logging
system they used so that all six stations had the same database of log
information. Learn about how they dealt with the bad storms which plagued
the area during the IARU contest.
In addition to the program, CTDXCC member Susan King, K5DU, will
be on hand to check DXCC cards for the deserving. Check out
http://www.repeater.org/summerfest/ for information and late breaking
news concerning Summerfest.
--
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University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From aa4ga at contesting.com Wed Jul 24 16:26:10 2002
From: aa4ga@contesting.com (Lee Hiers, AA4GA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <025401c23333$8715d9a0$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <3D3EC712.12842.350F66@localhost>
On 24 Jul 2002,, Billy Cox wrote:
> The other is our national organization that months ago stated these
> steps were needed for financial reasons ... yet ... there was NO mention
> of that in the recent release.
Yes, it was mentioned a few months back that the results were
being eliminated from QST for financial reasons, but the
announcement in ARLB046 stated:
"the Board agreed that the ARRL Web site now provides a better
medium to report the results of ARRL-sponsored contests, and line
scores no longer will appear in QST."
Which in no way confirms that this is a cost-
saving measure as they previously "advertised".
I would say that it gives reason for concern for
ARRL's continued sponsorship of contests,
possibly even their support of contesting as an
allowable activity on the bands - I would not be
surprised if they proposed a rules change to the
FCC which would prohibit contesting - if you
boil it down to membership numbers, I'm sure the
majority of members (not active $-spending
members, just numbers of members) would support
total elimination of contesting. It's only a
matter of time.
And I just bought another radio...dangit!
Lee
--
Lee Hiers, AA4GA
Cornelia, GA
mailto:aa4ga@contesting.com
>From 00tlzivney at bsu.edu Wed Jul 24 16:11:20 2002
From: 00tlzivney@bsu.edu (Zivney, Terry L.)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
Message-ID: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBB03@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
Because CQ still publishes the lines scores, top ten boxes, etc.
As far as I can see, the only things moved to the web were
the callsigns of the ops of the multi-op stations and a
small box showing the top single op score in each zone.
Thus, the CQ reporting is essentially unchanged in the
magazine.
Terry Zivney, N4TZ/9
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerry Hull [mailto:windev@inetmarket.com]
Sent: Tue 7/23/2002 5:15 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Cc:
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
any complaints about that?
73,
Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
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>From wu4g at pipeline.com Wed Jul 24 17:27:35 2002
From: wu4g@pipeline.com (Ron Bolton)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Additional Serial ports
Message-ID: <001b01c23350$8fa5c040$a344fea9@com>
Anyone tried using the SIIG PCI Expander boards? These seem to be much more
reasonably priced than the Byterunners and come with a 5 year warranty. (SIIG
2S PCI is $54, and 2 additional ports can be added to board for $24, all 4 use
same INT.) I looked at the USB to Serial converters and while they may be easy
to use, are much more expensive (cheapest 4 port was $125). Any other
suggestions?
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>From n4gi at tampabay.rr.com Wed Jul 24 17:53:17 2002
From: n4gi@tampabay.rr.com (n4gi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <3D3EC712.12842.350F66@localhost>
Message-ID: <000801c23354$22ee0990$6c01a8c0@EAC>
> I'm sure the
> majority of members (not active $-spending
> members, just numbers of members) would support
> total elimination of contesting. It's only a
> matter of time.
>
> And I just bought another radio...dangit!
>
> Lee
That's right folks, armageddon is looming.
Tell you what Lee (and any others): I can help in this time of gloom! Send
your new rig(s) to my call book address if you want. Oh, I'll take those
pesky amps and antennas off your hands too if you want (you probably won't
need those either).... I'll make sure that soon-to-be worthless stuff is
disposed of properly. ;-)
Blake N4GI
>From windev at inetmarket.com Wed Jul 24 19:59:52 2002
From: windev@inetmarket.com (Gerry Hull)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
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Yes, but I take CQ's changes personally -- I was one of the operators at
#1 M/S Canadian station VY2SS... Yet nobody would know that
without reading the web :-)
My comment about CQ was just to stir the pot... This reflector
provides great comedy in the off-contest season!
I have three points:
- I am not a member of ARRL because of QST. I am a member of
ARRL because we need a strong national voice for Amateur Radio.
ARRL, like it or not, is that organization. If another viable
organization existed, then I might consider that. <5% of QST
is of interest to me each month -- CQ, maybe 7%. QEX, 100%.
- CQ should be MORE responsive to complaints, if there are any.
That's because we can vote with our pocketbooks. No politics
involved -- just don't subscribe. In the QST/ARRL scenario, if we
vote with our pocketbooks, amateur radio is in deep do-do. So,
we vote by electing the people we want on the board -- and then they
do what they want anyway :-). Best way to change ARRL is to get
involved, rather than BSing on email reflectors.
- Contests will still be a lot of fun, and be very competitive, and
be a great aspect of amateur radio, no matter where the results are
published, and by whom.
73,
Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
> Because CQ still publishes the lines scores, top ten boxes, etc.
> As far as I can see, the only things moved to the web were
> the callsigns of the ops of the multi-op stations and a
> small box showing the top single op score in each zone.
>
> Thus, the CQ reporting is essentially unchanged in the
> magazine.
>
> Terry Zivney, N4TZ/9
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerry Hull [mailto:windev@inetmarket.com]
> Sent: Tue 7/23/2002 5:15 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Cc:
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
> Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
> results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
> any complaints about that?
>
> 73,
>
> Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
>
>
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>From k1ir at designet.com Wed Jul 24 20:23:04 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Line Scores BoD Minute
Message-ID: <vhgq43xnsfbgrxp.240720021923@designet-jsi>
Fellow Contesters and members of the Contest Coverage Working Group,
Below you will find the wording of the BoD minute regarding the decision to
move line scores to the web. Before you draw any conclusions about anything,
take some time to absorb this. We should also give the BoD and HQ some time to
reflect on the proposal we delivered late last week and to prepare and send
along a response. I think it will be a positive one.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
FROM: "Wilson, Mark K1RO" <mwilson@arrl.org>
TO: 'Jim Idelson' <k1ir@designet.com>
DATE: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:11:47 -0400
RE: RE: re[5]: Proposal delivered
Hi Jim,
Here is the minute from the Board meeting dealing with contest reporting.
The full minutes should be on the Web tomorrow.
73, Mark K1RO
_____
35. On motion of Mr. Bellows, seconded by Mr. Isely, it was VOTED that the
following resolution is ADOPTED:
WHEREAS, the ARRL management and ARRL Board of Directors are
committed to the support of contesting and operating activities, and
increasing the understanding and participation of ARRL members in those
activities; and
WHEREAS, the soon-to-be two official means of providing information
to members are QST magazine and the ARRL Web site; and
WHEREAS, ARRL management has significantly improved the capabilities
of the contest web site, including a searchable database of contest line
scores for members with the ability to easily analyze individual and club
scores; an online Soapbox where entrants can post information and photos and
exchange ideas immediately after the contest; expanded the write-up and
amount of information available for each contest; and initiated the email
Contest Rate Sheet newsletter to better inform contest participants; and
WHEREAS, as a means of encouraging increased member enjoyment and
participation in contests, ARRL management and QST editorial staff are
committed to continuing to enhance and improve the contest web site and
maintaining an ongoing presence in QST recognizing contests and the
achievements of contesters; and
WHEREAS, over the past six months members have come to understand
and appreciate the reasons for relocating of contest line scores and the
advantages of the expanded capabilities available on the web site;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that as of the January 2003 issue of
QST, contest line scores shall be relocated from QST to the ARRL Web.
>From dave at egh.com Wed Jul 24 20:28:17 2002
From: dave@egh.com (David Clemons)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL 10 Meter Contest Results
Message-ID: <00A116D0.B9C72202.27@egh.com>
The ARRL web site now shows the results of the 2001
ARRL 10 Meter Contest.
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Wed Jul 24 20:58:15 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Additional Serial ports
In-Reply-To: <001b01c23350$8fa5c040$a344fea9@com>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFMEJCDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
I've used the SIIG PCI serial expansion board on a Windows 98SE computer.
Works like a charm. I believe it installed as COM5 and COM6 if I recall
correctly.
73,
Gary W2CS
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ron Bolton
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 4:28 PM
> To: CQ Contest Reflector; Dx4win@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Additional Serial ports
>
>
> Anyone tried using the SIIG PCI Expander boards? These seem to
> be much more reasonably priced than the Byterunners and come with
> a 5 year warranty. (SIIG 2S PCI is $54, and 2 additional ports
> can be added to board for $24, all 4 use same INT.) I looked at
> the USB to Serial converters and while they may be easy to use,
> are much more expensive (cheapest 4 port was $125). Any other
> suggestions?
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>From gm at netsync.net Wed Jul 24 21:56:26 2002
From: gm@netsync.net (Gerry Maira)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
> Message: 7
> From: "Lee Hiers, AA4GA" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
> To: Cq-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
>
> I would say that it gives reason for concern for
> ARRL's continued sponsorship of contests,
> possibly even their support of contesting as an
> allowable activity on the bands - I would not be
> surprised if they proposed a rules change to the
> FCC which would prohibit contesting - if you
> boil it down to membership numbers, I'm sure the
> majority of members (not active $-spending
> members, just numbers of members) would support
> total elimination of contesting. It's only a
> matter of time.
Bingo! Someone is finally catching on. The ARRL won't so far as trying to
prohibit
contests, but they are distancing themselves from them. The exception is the
non-contest
field day exercise which is still good PR for the league.
I just started out in contesting about 2 years ago. One thing that helped spark
my
interest was seeing ARRL contest results in QST. Seeing the results there also
gave me
added incentive to try for more points. It won't be quite the same without
results
published in QST. NO ONE is going to take the trouble to look at scores on the
ARRL
website except for participants. In QST it's right there in front of you and
easy to
look at. The same is true for section news.
I ended my ARRL membership as of 1/02 for reasons that had little to do with
contesting.
I was amazed at the number of form letters they sent me trying to get me to
renew. They
basically said I wasn't doing my part to help protect Amateur Radio by not
supporting
them. The fact is, I need protection from the ARRL! I'm a CW operator, a DXer
and a
contester. Those are my main activities in the hobby, and each of them requires
some
degree of skill. Each has also suffered to some degree by the actions of the
ARRL -
especially CW. They ARRL doesn't want to turn off any of the new instant
gratification
folks by requiring or promoting anything that requires skill. Articles on
things like
how to properly type a URL in order to access a website, or specials like the
"ugly
shack contest" are what they think are appropriate now. They say we need more
licensed
hams and ARRL members in order to fend of the evil threats out there. Bunk! The
threats
are minimal and I would think almost non-existant on HF. We don't need more
than a few
hundred thousand licensed hams in this country to keep the hobby going. Dumbing
down has
only lowered the integrity of the hobby, and that's the thing the ARRL should
be most
concerned about. They sold us out!
Gerry KA2MGE
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Wed Jul 24 22:02:48 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c23377$3d0110c0$03010a0a@office1>
Moving the line scores to the web implies that we will be able to get the
results faster -- if for not other reason, just from the mere fact that we
won't have to wait 2 months or more for the final copy to be sent to the
printer, printed in the magazine, and left to the tender mercies (if any) of
the US Postal (alleged) Service.
Isn't this a good thing? (Besides, only the line scores won't be in, right?
The contest write-ups and soapboxes will be -- though I suspect the on-line
soapboxes will be greater.)
Look, the decision has been made, and I suspect that it's now irrevocable.
At best the combinded kvetching from groups like this one might put it off
for another 6 months -- maybe. But it's coming. So rather than kvetch
about mass conspiracies and make unfounded financial allegations, why don't
we put our collective heads together and figure out how to best exploit this
new tool to the benefit of the contesting community?
In fact, let's go one step further: Why not suggest to the ARRL that anyone
submitting an electronic log have the option to request that the final
results be emailed to them, line scores and all? It could be done as an
additional Cabrillo line in the header section, for one.
...oh, and about those comments the other day regarding the potential young
amateur buying QST off the newstand: Newstand? What newstand? At least
here in the Pittsburgh area, QST long since disappeared from the magazine
racks. Even Borders, which carries CQ & 73 and 10 million other
hobby-related magazines, doesn't carry QST (I asked at both of my local
ones -- they say they never heard of it!). I think we have a bigger problem
of getting QST into someone's hands to solve long before we start worrying
about what's in the magazine itself! (I shudder to think that someone's
first exposure to Amateur Radio these days might be one of Wayne's rants.
But I digress)
73, ron wn3vaw
"Some people say the beer glass is half empty.
Some people say it's half full.
To me, Woody, it says 'get me another drink!'"
-- Norm, Cheers (attributed)
From: "K0LUZ" <k0luz@topsusa.com>
To: "Mike Gilmer, N2MG" <n2mg@eham.net>,
"CQ-Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In a sense, this is one positive for promoting more contest activity
because now the non-member who participates in an ARRL contest can see his
score published on the Internet. As a non-member and not a recipient of
QST, I assume it was difficult to find out how they had scored compared to
others in the same category. This is what is called observing "the glass is
half full."
73
Red
K0LUZ
-----Original Message-----
Tom Osborne wrote:
>
> Pete Smith wrote:
>
> > Starting next January, "Section News" and contest line score
> > results will appear on the ARRL Web site >rather than in QST.
>
> Probably in the "members only" section, I suppose.
ARRL has been publishing contest results in Members Only for the first
month or so, but then moving them to the open section. So non-members
have been able to get a free ride (if one were willing to wait a
month) - no need to join or to even buy QST to see the results. I
suspect this procedure will continue.
Mike N2MG
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>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Wed Jul 24 22:06:55 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <000f01c23377$3d0110c0$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <MCBBJAHBAIHDJKDNKBBIOEKFCAAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> ...oh, and about those comments the other day regarding the
> potential young
> amateur buying QST off the newstand: Newstand? What newstand? At least
> here in the Pittsburgh area, QST long since disappeared from the magazine
> racks. Even Borders, which carries CQ & 73 and 10 million other
> hobby-related magazines, doesn't carry QST (I asked at both of my local
> ones -- they say they never heard of it!).
My local Barnes & Noble (Clear Lake-Houston, TX) carries QST, CQ and 73,
along with a a couple of SWL/Scanner type mags, electronic hobbyist mags and
even a Britsh electronics hobbyist magazine.
I have also seen QST in a couple of airport magazine/book shops.
73,
dale, kg5u
>From k2wr at njdxa.org Wed Jul 24 23:10:12 2002
From: k2wr@njdxa.org (Rich K2WR)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL BoD et al
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <002d01c23380$6b92abc0$7b9bfea9@5j08601>
To my esteemed fellow participants on the Contest Reflector:
(I write this from the standpoint of one with considerable experience in
serving on boards of membership organizations, and not necessarily involving
amateur radio...)
It's a bad idea to expect that people you elect to boards will follow your
agenda, or even their own. In fact, it's a bad idea if they run with any
agenda at all. The truth is, in almost any organization, 10 minutes after
the person you support (or his opponent) gets elected, he is going to know
far, far more about the organization than you do. Now, you can and should
express your opinion, but you should have elected the person because you
trust him to exercise his JUDGEMENT independently, and you should vote for
someone else when and if you lose that trust. (However, with the exception
of financial chicanery or irresponsibility, there is rarely any one issue
that reasonably should make or break that trust.)
In this particular case, I disagree with the Board's action as much as
anyone on this reflector. I am going to convey my opinion to my director
(N2FF), who was elected and re-elected (twice) with my vocal and significant
support, but I fully realize and accept that after 6 years on the Board he
knows far, far, far more about the workings of ARRL than I do, and, even
though I think he and my other friends on the Board reached the wrong
conclusion about contest line scores (and Section News, for that matter), I
elected him to use his own judgement, which I think he's done very
effectively for six years, and I'm going to support him just as intensively
next year for re-election as I did the last 2 times.
Why not make our next project one to change the "Top Ten" boxes to "Top
Fifty" boxes, now that all this space has been released due to removing the
line scores?
Rich K2WR
>From K9GY at K9GY.com Thu Jul 25 03:25:14 2002
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Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
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>From ve4xt at mb.sympatico.ca Wed Jul 24 22:39:46 2002
From: ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
Here's the thing: the people who won't bother to look at the line scores on
the Web are the same people right now who don't bother to look at the line
scores in QST.
Line scores have limited appeal -- primarily to us and us alone. That's not
going to change.
But what can change is the amount that non-contesters read the results. They
won't read line scores but they will read interesting stories, with good
anecdotes, good prose and good photography. There is no room for that now
since the majority of pages are devoted to line scores.
As the author of the 2001 SS Phone writeup, my behind the scenes work with
such ARRL luminaries as K1RO, NT1N, N1BKE and N1ND suggests a strong
commitment to making line score-free results work for everybody. I support
the efforts to move line score coverage to the Web (where it can be MUCH
more valuable to the people who actually care about them) and increase
non-line score copy in QST, where it can be much more interesting to the
people who don't care about line scores.
Anything that will make it MORE LIKELY that a non-contester will read the
results writeup is a good thing, no? Line scores don't do that.
It only makes sense to deliver the material people want in the form most
suited to them: the interactive sort functions applied to the SS line scores
on the Web site are nothing short of astounding. Want to compare 80 meter
rates among club scores in B? No problem. Want to find out who had the
highest non-sweep score? Simple. They really, really, really did an
absolutely fantastic job developing the contesting space on the ARRL site.
It is an excellent resource that we should all be happy to embrace.
The most powerful people at the League now are active contesters. Don't
forget that.
73, Kelly
VE4XT
"Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean everybody isn't out to get me."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Maira" <gm@netsync.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 7:56 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
> > Message: 7
> > From: "Lee Hiers, AA4GA" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
> > To: Cq-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
> >
>
> > I would say that it gives reason for concern for
> > ARRL's continued sponsorship of contests,
> > possibly even their support of contesting as an
> > allowable activity on the bands - I would not be
> > surprised if they proposed a rules change to the
> > FCC which would prohibit contesting - if you
> > boil it down to membership numbers, I'm sure the
> > majority of members (not active $-spending
> > members, just numbers of members) would support
> > total elimination of contesting. It's only a
> > matter of time.
>
> Bingo! Someone is finally catching on. The ARRL won't so far as trying to
prohibit
> contests, but they are distancing themselves from them. The exception is
the non-contest
> field day exercise which is still good PR for the league.
>
> I just started out in contesting about 2 years ago. One thing that helped
spark my
> interest was seeing ARRL contest results in QST. Seeing the results there
also gave me
> added incentive to try for more points. It won't be quite the same without
results
> published in QST. NO ONE is going to take the trouble to look at scores on
the ARRL
> website except for participants. In QST it's right there in front of you
and easy to
> look at. The same is true for section news.
>
> I ended my ARRL membership as of 1/02 for reasons that had little to do
with contesting.
> I was amazed at the number of form letters they sent me trying to get me
to renew. They
> basically said I wasn't doing my part to help protect Amateur Radio by not
supporting
> them. The fact is, I need protection from the ARRL! I'm a CW operator, a
DXer and a
> contester. Those are my main activities in the hobby, and each of them
requires some
> degree of skill. Each has also suffered to some degree by the actions of
the ARRL -
> especially CW. They ARRL doesn't want to turn off any of the new instant
gratification
> folks by requiring or promoting anything that requires skill. Articles on
things like
> how to properly type a URL in order to access a website, or specials like
the "ugly
> shack contest" are what they think are appropriate now. They say we need
more licensed
> hams and ARRL members in order to fend of the evil threats out there.
Bunk! The threats
> are minimal and I would think almost non-existant on HF. We don't need
more than a few
> hundred thousand licensed hams in this country to keep the hobby going.
Dumbing down has
> only lowered the integrity of the hobby, and that's the thing the ARRL
should be most
> concerned about. They sold us out!
>
> Gerry KA2MGE
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Thu Jul 25 02:23:09 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net> <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
Message-ID: <3D3F8B3D.C5B32B8E@gte.net>
Kelly Taylor wrote:
> There is no room for that now since the majority of pages are devoted
> to line scores.
The idea of cutting line scores is to reduce the number of pages in QST
(I've heard 16 pages will be cut) - not free them up for something
else. Cutting line scores and section news reduces the number of pages
in QST and makes publishing costs less ... it doesn't mean more content
will take their place.
Ron
>From kr1g at hotmail.com Thu Jul 25 13:01:23 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <F63nk27XcYVJ4w3kXg50001f5bc@hotmail.com>
ABout 5 years ago while on my honeymoon in ZL, I had decided to become
active again after 10+ years off the air.
Found a copy of QST and CQ in a newsstand in Auckland - not even sure I
could do that in Boston.
73
Ted KT1V
>From: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
>To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
>
>
> > ...oh, and about those comments the other day regarding the
> > potential young
> > amateur buying QST off the newstand: Newstand? What newstand? At
>least
> > here in the Pittsburgh area, QST long since disappeared from the
>magazine
> > racks. Even Borders, which carries CQ & 73 and 10 million other
> > hobby-related magazines, doesn't carry QST (I asked at both of my local
> > ones -- they say they never heard of it!).
>
>My local Barnes & Noble (Clear Lake-Houston, TX) carries QST, CQ and 73,
>along with a a couple of SWL/Scanner type mags, electronic hobbyist mags
>and
>even a Britsh electronics hobbyist magazine.
>
>I have also seen QST in a couple of airport magazine/book shops.
>
>73,
>dale, kg5u
>
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Thu Jul 25 09:59:51 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020725085529.024b3a00@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 09:39 PM 7/24/02 -0500, Kelly Taylor wrote:
>As the author of the 2001 SS Phone writeup, my behind the scenes work with
>such ARRL luminaries as K1RO, NT1N, N1BKE and N1ND suggests a strong
>commitment to making line score-free results work for everybody. I support
>the efforts to move line score coverage to the Web (where it can be MUCH
>more valuable to the people who actually care about them) and increase
>non-line score copy in QST, where it can be much more interesting to the
>people who don't care about line scores.
Kelly, this is exactly the sort of reassurance we are looking for, and that
was strikingly absent from reports on the Board meeting. If there had been
direction to ARRL staff to "increase non-line score copy in QST," as there
was in the case of the Section News, then I would have zero complaint about
the outcome. Perhaps one of those ARRL luminaries would offer a statement
of ARRL's intentions in this respect, and put the issue to rest (except, of
course, for the requirement that we get busy writing).
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From n0ss at earthlink.net Thu Jul 25 09:42:03 2002
From: n0ss@earthlink.net (Tom Hammond =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=D8SS?=)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <3D3F8B3D.C5B32B8E@gte.net>
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
<000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020725082559.00b0b230@mail.earthlink.net>
Ron, et al:
Kelly Taylor wrote:
>I support the efforts to move line score coverage to the Web
>(where it can be MUCH more valuable to the people who actually
>care about them) and increase non-line score copy in QST, where
>it can be much more interesting to the people who don't care
>about line scores.
Ron Wetjen wrote:
>The idea of cutting line scores is to reduce the number of pages
>in QST (I've heard 16 pages will be cut) - not free them up for
>something else. Cutting line scores and section news reduces the
>number of pages in QST and makes publishing costs less ... it
>doesn't mean more content will take their place.
If, say, 16 pages were 'saved' by moving the line scores, this doesn't
necessarily imply that ALL of those pages would be lost.
Assuming that Kelly's statement, above, is correct, even if a FEW of those
16 pages were used to increase non-line score copy for contests, this would
be a good thing. And the ARRL would still be saving a BUNCH of paper in the
process.
I have no reason to doubt Kelly's statement, which implies that SOME of the
lost pages may actually be used in further SUPPORT of contesting, by way of
enhanced write-ups.
While I will miss not seeing my call... generally way down toward the
bottom of most listings... in QST, I certainly WOULD like to be able to
access the results more quickly via the Web, and to have them available to
all operators, not just ARRL members.
Tom Hammond N0SS
>From k1my at msn.com Thu Jul 25 08:20:00 2002
From: k1my@msn.com (Bruce Makas)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020725085529.024b3a00@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <005701c233e6$5dab5780$0101a8c0@pavilion>
Hi Pete, Nice thoughts but don't hold your breath. Non line score copy of
contests will never increase. Take that to the bank.
73, Bruce K1MY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
> At 09:39 PM 7/24/02 -0500, Kelly Taylor wrote:
> >As the author of the 2001 SS Phone writeup, my behind the scenes work
with
> >such ARRL luminaries as K1RO, NT1N, N1BKE and N1ND suggests a strong
> >commitment to making line score-free results work for everybody. I
support
> >the efforts to move line score coverage to the Web (where it can be MUCH
> >more valuable to the people who actually care about them) and increase
> >non-line score copy in QST, where it can be much more interesting to the
> >people who don't care about line scores.
>
> Kelly, this is exactly the sort of reassurance we are looking for, and
that
> was strikingly absent from reports on the Board meeting. If there had
been
> direction to ARRL staff to "increase non-line score copy in QST," as there
> was in the case of the Section News, then I would have zero complaint
about
> the outcome. Perhaps one of those ARRL luminaries would offer a statement
> of ARRL's intentions in this respect, and put the issue to rest (except,
of
> course, for the requirement that we get busy writing).
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 09:44:19 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20020725085529.024b3a00@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
References: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
<200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020725074143.00a7c830@pop3.eskimo.com>
I'm reading a lot about whether the line scores should be in QST or not.
I am not reading anything about anybody actually going up and trying out
the electronic versions.
So, I went up and reviewed the newly released ARRL 10M results.
Following that review, I was going to write a whole bunch about the entire
week's worth of long discussions regarding contest haters, economics,
following the money, conspiracies, politics, the death of the
hobby, and even.... <sigh> tree hugging.
However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
going on-line in three short words.
I like 'em.
rock on!
dink, n7wa
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 25 11:50:52 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
Message-ID: <00d001c233f3$118fc720$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>Kelly Taylor wrote:
>
>> There is no room for that now since the majority of pages are devoted
>> to line scores.
>
>The idea of cutting line scores is to reduce the number of pages in QST
>(I've heard 16 pages will be cut) - not free them up for something
>else. Cutting line scores and section news reduces the number of pages
>in QST and makes publishing costs less ... it doesn't mean more content
>will take their place.
>
> Ron
No so Ron, <sigh>
Yes ... that's what we were told back earlier in the year ... that this was
all due to financial concerns ... and you know from a business viewpoint
(MBA/corporate/etc.) if my national organization says there is a revenue
problem, and to survive they need to take some cost containment steps
to continue to exist, and that some of my perks as a member may have
to go away. Hey, I understand, do it ... but that's not what has happened.
Now go re-read the official release ... NO MENTION of reducing the number
of pages, NO MENTION of any form of cost containment. There IS mention of:
"The space freed up by relocating "Section News" will allow more in-depth
coverage of general news, public service activities and "how-to" articles
aimed at bringing more amateurs into the emergency preparedness fold."
Wait a second ... where's the we must contain costs cry from earlier this
year?
And as we gloat about how much greater the web-based options will be,
who's picking up the tab for all of that? Use of volunteers will help, but
there's going to be some incremental costs to support this also. There is
no free ride folks ... there are NEW costs to provide web-based services.
Also in the carefully worded release ... why no mention of anything stating:
"The space freed up by relocating "Contest ....." will allow more in-depth
coverage of contest news, contesting activities, and "how-to" articles aimed
at bringing more amateurs into the enjoyable sport of radio contesting".
My opinion is that omission is not by accident, as press releases are
carefully constructed to communicate exact and specific messages. NO
one from the ARRL has officially said anything about increased contest
exposure to replace the line-scores. Such a statement, if valid could have
been included in the press release. It was not. So who's fooling who here?
There's a wide variance between what we were told, and what has
happened. And that's disgusting behavior from our national organization.
73 Billy AA4NU
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 25 10:23:43 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <20020725162343.91310.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com>
The ARRL can't prohibit anyone from having a contest on any band.
If the ARRL doesn't like contests they I would say to them why don't
you just discontinue your contest program. Even more $$$ saved for
a silly and stupid activity... Hey ???
The ARRL never seems to really care about the views of the contest
community anyway (which cq-contest is an important forum to express
those views and the CAC) when making rules changes or any deciding
other issues that come before the BoD.
Don't take these comments as me being anti-ARRL... because I am
not. The ARRL is more than just a subscription to QST. I am VERY
grateful for all the work they do over the years fighting for our
frequencies and our right to just put up antennas. I am a life
member
of the ARRL and proud of it.
It would be very nice if those directors , who we know who are
contesters and probably subscribe to this reflector, would come out
of hiding and let us know why they voted the way they did ????
73's Jeff
--- Gerry Maira <gm@netsync.net> wrote:
> > Message: 7
> > From: "Lee Hiers, AA4GA" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
> > To: Cq-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
> >
>
> > I would say that it gives reason for concern for
> > ARRL's continued sponsorship of contests,
> > possibly even their support of contesting as an
> > allowable activity on the bands - I would not be
> > surprised if they proposed a rules change to the
> > FCC which would prohibit contesting - if you
> > boil it down to membership numbers, I'm sure the
> > majority of members (not active $-spending
> > members, just numbers of members) would support
> > total elimination of contesting. It's only a
> > matter of time.
>
> Bingo! Someone is finally catching on. The ARRL won't so far as
> trying to prohibit
> contests, but they are distancing themselves from them. The exception
> is the non-contest
> field day exercise which is still good PR for the league.
>
> I just started out in contesting about 2 years ago. One thing that
> helped spark my
> interest was seeing ARRL contest results in QST. Seeing the results
> there also gave me
> added incentive to try for more points. It won't be quite the same
> without results
> published in QST. NO ONE is going to take the trouble to look at
> scores on the ARRL
> website except for participants. In QST it's right there in front of
> you and easy to
> look at. The same is true for section news.
>
> I ended my ARRL membership as of 1/02 for reasons that had little to
> do with contesting.
> I was amazed at the number of form letters they sent me trying to get
> me to renew. They
> basically said I wasn't doing my part to help protect Amateur Radio
> by not supporting
> them. The fact is, I need protection from the ARRL! I'm a CW
> operator, a DXer and a
> contester. Those are my main activities in the hobby, and each of
> them requires some
> degree of skill. Each has also suffered to some degree by the actions
> of the ARRL -
> especially CW. They ARRL doesn't want to turn off any of the new
> instant gratification
> folks by requiring or promoting anything that requires skill.
> Articles on things like
> how to properly type a URL in order to access a website, or specials
> like the "ugly
> shack contest" are what they think are appropriate now. They say we
> need more licensed
> hams and ARRL members in order to fend of the evil threats out there.
> Bunk! The threats
> are minimal and I would think almost non-existant on HF. We don't
> need more than a few
> hundred thousand licensed hams in this country to keep the hobby
> going. Dumbing down has
> only lowered the integrity of the hobby, and that's the thing the
> ARRL should be most
> concerned about. They sold us out!
>
> Gerry KA2MGE
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>From k2kir at telenet.net Thu Jul 25 13:38:00 2002
From: k2kir@telenet.net (Bud Hippisley, K2KIR)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20020725112738.00abaac0@telenet.net>
At 10:39 PM 2002-07-24 , VE4XT wrote:
>Line scores have limited appeal -- primarily to us and us alone.
I don't agree -- when I was a new ham, I used to read the line scores for my
section to see if I knew any of the contesters who participated -- even though
I hadn't yet decided that I wanted to be a contester.
> Anything that will make it MORE LIKELY that a non-contester will read the
>results writeup is a good thing, no?
Not automatically, and especially not if it's a zero-sum game and something
else has to suffer in return. There's a whole string of unproven presumptions
inherent in trading line scores for more verbiage -- including the one that
implies today's new generation will *read* about anything rather than just
*doing*.
But my principal objection to this whole thing is from the "historical records"
point of view. If I want to recall what my friends and I did in the 1933
Sweepstakes I can go to my collection of QSTs and know for certain that I will
find it. There is no such guarantee attached to whatever the League is
proposing to replace the QST coverage with -- as those of us who have suffered
through a similar but much earlier decision to remove coverage of the ARRL
National Traffic System from QST have learned the hard way. The promised
alternatives -- listing of NTS "line scores" (statistics) in a separate
specialty field organization newsletter and equivalent editorial space in QST
for articles about NTS and traffic handling have not survived in any meaningful
way.
Coincidentally, I recently read a similar wail from long-time columnists in a
popular computer magazine to the effect that their archived columns on the
publisher's web site had been deleted -- perhaps accidentally but, in any
event, deleted nevertheless. Their philosophical ruminations about the
limitations of web-based archiving can be found on pages 156-157 of the April
2002 issue of "Computer Shopper" magazine.
Surely the day will come when alternative publishing methods will be as
permanent, as ubiquitous, and as easy to read in bed or on the subway as
hard-copy magazines have been. But "we (society and technology) ain't there
yet", and especially not the ARRL, which has convinced me by its recent history
that its "commitments" aren't always as permanent as its hard-copy publications.
Bud, K2KIR
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:07:13 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251907.g6PJ7DA25591@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
2002 Georgia QP - Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
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Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in thsi summary, please visit:
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
In State Rover LP
N4PN 676 75 400 57 20 20,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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In State Single Op LP
KN4Y 591 0 42 0 12 49,644 FCG
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NJ8J 43 7 21 7 3 2,604 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
In State Single Op QRP
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 1.6 15 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Out of State Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Out of State Single Op LP
N4GG 78 10 64 10 9 12,284 PVRC
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
K8MR 52 4 39 4 4,644 MRRC
W4SAA 27 0 23 0 2 1,242 FCG
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
Out of State Single Op QRP
NJ4X/7 32 0 31 0 3 1,984
K8GU(@K8GU/P) 8 0 8 0 < 1 128 MRRC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:07:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251907.g6PJ7nY25600@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
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Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
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Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
KB8U 227 99 17 30,888
K3DNE 167 69 10 15,732 PVRC
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
K8CC 130 72 6.5 12,240 MRRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE3KZ 126 66 9,570 Ontario VHF Associat
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
K0UK 2 2 27hrs 6 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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All SOSB/2 QRP
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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K8KFJ 26 19 6 494
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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N3AWS 5 4 3 20
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:09:09 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251909.g6PJ99D25609@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
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Post Office Box 644
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Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
W6YX 446 156 10 69,576 NCCC
W1GZ 252 112 10 28,224
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
VA3DX 388 147 11 58,200
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 10 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
9A5W(@9A1A) 301 107 9 32,207
WB4EQS 259 124 32,116
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K7ZUM 241 118 7 28,438 WVDXC
N1NB 240 105 8 25,200
K4PX 225 111 10 24,975
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
W4BCG 222 107 9 23,754 TCG
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
W6ZL(BIGWAVE) 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
KD8FS 195 97 5 18,915
LP7H(LU9HS) 227 76 10 17,252
K3FH 176 98 8 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 6 14,964
IT9BLB 186 78 10 14,508 TIKIRRIKI CONTEST CL
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
K5AM 169 78 4 13,182
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
K1XX 161 78 9 12,090
IK0HBN 150 57 9 8,550
WB0O 110 71 2 7,810
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 2 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K9SZ 48 33 1,584
K6OWL 46 34 2 1,564
XE2AC 42 27 3 1,134
F6FJE 24 23 5 552
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
W1GZ N1MGO,WN1E
W6YX K6ENT,N6DE,W6ZZZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:22:43 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251922.g6PJMhT25625@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
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IARU International Secretariat
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Call
CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
HQ station (M/M)
S50HQ 4493 4185 416 24 11,710,400
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 23 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
W7GG 362 300 44 9 265,742
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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USA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 24 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 19 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 21 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
K9TM 901 0 109 13 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
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USA SO CW LP
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
W4BCG 75 0 40 6 9,400 TCG
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
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USA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
K6XX 1264 247 179 23 1,030,682 NCCC
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 19 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
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USA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
K1HT 399 123 139 9 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 5 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
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USA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 13 10,701 SECC
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USA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
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USA SO SSB LP
NQ4U 0 235 49 8 81,498 TCG
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
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USA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
DX M/S HP
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
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DX SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 0 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
PJ2E(N1UR) 2211 0 198 24 2,067,034 YCCC
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 20 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 0 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
DH7KU 550 0 66 16 134,640 DK0UN University Rad
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
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DX SO CW LP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
OH/W6YA 770 0 159 354,570
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
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DX SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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DX SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RK4FF 1594 846 325 24 2,637,700
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 23 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
UY5ZZ 991 304 123 956,032
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 15 463,606 HSDXA
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 8 402,327
XE2AC 225 598 90 8 257,760
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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DX SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
VE4YU 360 232 61 19 270,750
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 8 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
SV1DNW 132 58 84 12 43,008
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
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DX SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
DF1DX 141 114 92 13 71,300 RR DX
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DX SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 23 2,342,130 Other (specify when
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
RN4LP 1505 251 24 1,175,433
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
FM5GU 0 1492 99 10 609,246
S57UN(@S52ZW) 430 5 117,432 SCC
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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DX SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
SV1DKL 0 683 183 18 416,325
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
W7GG K7ZUM,KC7TWZ,W7GG
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:23:28 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251923.g6PJNSq25634@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in theis summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
VE5RI 527 1214 41 40 24 818,424
KA6BIM 251 440 35 33 24 373,048 NCCC
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All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
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All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
VE7AVV 0 809 0 40 15 198,960 BCDX Club
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
K4BAI 181 22 0 0 27,632 SECC
K1GU 118 0 28 0 4 24,920 YCCC
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All SOAB LP
VE5SF 416 562 39 39 18.1 579,696
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE7UQ 62 346 17 28 153,540
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VA6RA 1 180 1 24 39,050
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VA3WN 142 50 13 10 6 26,542
W0ETT 100 2 25 1 7 21,632 Grand Mesa
VE3ANX 116 2 23 1 2.5 18,240
W1TO 67 12 15 5 12,680 YCCC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
N4WSM 0 29 0 13 4,550 TCG
W4NZ 32 3 9 2 3,300
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All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
VE3XAX 334 114 37 24 208,864 U-VE Contest Club
WB6BWZ 26 13 9 4 8.3 4,862 SECC
AA0XJ 19 5 7 3 5 2,080
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All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
VE3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 56 41 6 9 12 9,870
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
KA6BIM KA6BIM,NT6K
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From k1ir at designet.com Thu Jul 25 17:10:44 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL July 2002 BoD Meeting Minutes Posted
Message-ID: <57lkpsfvcecxz2w.250720021610@designet-jsi>
The minutes of the BoD meeting are posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/announce/board-0207/
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From wae at dl6rai.muc.de Thu Jul 25 21:59:09 2002
From: wae@dl6rai.muc.de (Bernhard Buettner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WAEDC-CW coming up!
Message-ID: <200207251859.g6PIxAZ01666@dl6rai.muc.de>
Hi Contesters!
The WAE DX Contest (CW portion) is coming up! Only two weekends
ahead, on August 10/11 the HF bands again will be full of "QTC?" -
the typical sign of the WAE DX Contest.
The idea of the QTC was born a long time ago - in 1936, the D.A.S.D.
(Deutscher Amateur Sende Dienst - the predecessor of the DARC) came up
with its first international Contest - the DJDC, which went over
five weekends. Non-German stations back then reported their QSOs back
to German stations. This was done in order to get complete coverage
of all QSOs done during the contest period - even if people would not
send in their logs. If you are interested in more information look
at the results archive at http://www.waedc.de - there you will find
results going back until 1936!
Today, the WAEDC only lasts a single weekend, 48 hours - and it's
coming up in a fortnight from now. Sending in logs today is so
easy with E-Mail and Log robots.
So - are you ready?
Check out the rules and latest changes at http://www.waedc.de! There
you can also download MP3 files of QTC traffic, look into the results
from the 2001 Contest, read about announced Contest operations etc.
Software authors have modified their logging programs to reflect the
latest changes in the WAE DX Contest. Find details on the Web site too.
If you have any questions or comments pertaining to the WAE DX Contest,
drop me a note at dl6rai@darc.de.
73 Ben, DL6RAI
--
[] Bernhard (Ben) Buettner, DL6RAI - WAE-DX-Contest Manager
[] E-Mail: dl6rai@darc.de Phone: +49-89-943663 Fax: +49-89-943191
>From thompson at mindspring.com Thu Jul 25 18:09:12 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Line scores
Message-ID: <009d01c23427$9b643600$781145cf@default>
A local ARRL official (just back from the Board meeting) thinks the line
scores will go on the open part of the ARRL web. The members only part will
allow you to digest your score (UBN).
No decisons have been made to expand NCJ with more scores. That decision
will be made over the next few months by HQ Management and the Executive
Committee.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From brianmiller at xtra.co.nz Fri Jul 26 11:30:00 2002
From: brianmiller@xtra.co.nz (Brian Miller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2001 OCEANIA DX CONTEST RESULTS
Message-ID: <016401c2342a$e61064a0$042556d2@default>
The full results for the 2001 Oceania DX contest are now available for viewing
on-line at the
Oceania DX Contest web site - go to
http://www.nzart.org.nz/nzart/update/contests/Oceania.
CONGRATULATIONS to all of the 2001 winners and thank you to everyone who
participated.
The Contest Committee was very pleased to see a 57% increase in the total
number of logs received
for the 2001 contest, including a 60% increase in logs from Oceania. The
increase indicates that our
strategy to rejuvenate the contest is working. We are looking for even greater
participation in
2002 - especially from Oceania stations.
I would especially like to acknowledge the Committee who managed the promotion,
log checking and
distribution of the results for the 2001 contest - the Committee members are
VK5GN, VK3TZ, VK4UC,
VK2FHN, VK2AYD, VK1JDX, ZL3GA, ZL2BSJ and ZL1AZE.
The 2002 Oceania DX contest is to be held on the following dates and times
PHONE Contest: 0800 UTC Saturday 5 October to 0800 UTC Sunday 6 October
CW Contest: 0800 UTC Saturday 12 October to 0800 UTC Sunday 13 October
The 2002 rules are available from
http://www.nzart.org.nz/nzart/update/contests/Oceania.
This will be the 66th Oceania DX Contest - lets make it the biggest and best
yet. Note that this
contest is a great opportunity to warm up for CQ WW! Please spread the word
about the contest and
encourage others to "have a go".
We look forward to working you in the 2002 contest.
73
Brian Miller
ZL1AZE
Chair Oceania DX Contest Committee
PS. You can get the latest gossip on the contest by joining the discussion
group at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OceaniaDXTest. Join the group by sending an email
to
OceaniaDXTest-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.
>From k8cc at comcast.net Thu Jul 25 20:08:12 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20020725112738.00abaac0@telenet.net>
References: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
<200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com> <3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020725184432.00998ca0@mail.comcast.net>
Back in the early seventies when I was a new ham (licensed 2-3 years) and
starting to get very enthused about contesting, the QST contest writeups
were a HUGE factor in increasing my knowledge. I was fortunate that the
library at community college I attended for the first few years after high
school had a rather complete collection of QSTs for the prior fifteen years
or so. They were stored in a back room and the librarian would unlock the
room and let me sit back there for hours digesting contest results.
What was it that attracted my interest - line scores? Heck no! First, it
was pictures of contest stations; no, not stations with a DX40 and an
NC300, but pictures of competitive stations like W3GRF, K1LPL/3, XE1IIJ,
W7RM, etc. It was always interesting to see what these guys were running,
which gave me something to aspire to. Second were the tables showing QSOs
and mults (varied depending on the contest); again, showing me what was
possible. And finally, contest writeups which explained the contest - who
beat who, and why; significant scores, antecdotes, etc.; much more than
simple recitations of first, second and third places in each category.
Its been a number of years since I've read a contest writeup in a magazine
which I truly enjoyed. The CQWW writeups, IMHO, are better than the ARRL
ones because K3EST is deeply involved in the contest and understands what
went on. I commend the ARRL recent writeups (particularly the on-line
versions) by guest authors which have been a great improvement and will
continue to get better as these writers gain experience (that is, assuming
they don't burn out and quit). Still there is room for improvement - IMHO
there needs to be more pictures and more comparison breakdowns. For
example, the January VHF SS writeup lacked the traditional boxes with top
QSOs and grids per band. I'm not sure whether scoring info by band was
available in the results - even if so, sorting through hundreds of scores
is a lot of work for the reader when the author might be able to run a
database query and format it into a table with little work.
I believe that an attractive, interesting article about the results of a
contest has a place in QST. I'm not so much against including line scores
as I am a proponent of better use of space. I'd prefer to *read about the
contest* and opposed to going glassy-eyed over columns of data.
At the same time, we contesters need to get off our butts. We need to
submit more photos, stories, etc. about our contest efforts as material for
the writeup authors to use. And those of us who are capable of writing
need to step up and volunteer to do the writeups. N1ND's time is put to
much better use making the contest results happen.
FWIW.
73,
Dave/K8CC
>From trey at kkn.net Thu Jul 25 19:10:31 2002
From: trey@kkn.net (Trey Garlough)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
Message-ID: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Have you ever noticed that contest results take so long to appear in
magazines that sometimes you can't remember whether or not you
actually operated the particular contest you are reading about at the
moment?
Many years ago I had a dream that we would be able to operate contests
and then see the final results immediately after the events were over.
This will not be achievable if we rely on QST as a delivery mechanism.
As you may be aware I have been doing some volunteer work for the
League over the past few years to automate the log collecting and
results tabulating process for ARRL contests. Based on the current
state of the art, here are the top three delay factors that keep us
from publishing the results for the Sweepstakes in a timely fashion:
1) 45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
2) 30 day log submission deadline
3) contest writeup and magazine article layout
If we eliminate #1 by publishing on the web and cut #2 from 30 to 15
days, then I believe we can *tranquilly* release the complete final
results of Sweepstakes within 30 days of the contest. In fact, last
year Tree N6TR advanced the log processing tools for Sweepstakes to
the point that we are now capable of producing the complete set of
line scores and top ten boxes and so forth within 30 minutes of the
log deadline. Why wait until June to read the magazine when you can
see the results on the web in December?
Toward this end in November 2001 I introduced a propsal to the folks
at ARRL HQ that the log submission deadline be cut from 30 days to 15
days, effective with the contest season beginning with the 2002
November Sweepstakes. Let me explain how I decided on 15 days as a
nice compromise between 10 minutes and 30 days.
Over the past couple of years I have noticed a trend in how contest
logs are submitted. There is one spike that occurs right after the
contest and another spike the occurs right before the log submission
deadline, and during the intervening weeks the robot becomes very
quiet. I believe the reason for this is that there is really very
little work to be done to your logs anymore -- they are already duped
and scored and everything right at the end of the contest!
Secondly, cutting the log submission deadline from 30 to 15 days gains
us back 15 additional days to get the results published. 15 days is a
lot when you are trying to meet a 30 day (or 15 day!) deadline for
publishing the results.
Thirdly, I like 15 days because it gives everyone two complete
weekends to deal with their logs (as if there is really anything that
needs to be done with them). This gives the guy who bolts off on a
business trip on the Monday morning after the contest two weekends to
do something.
Fourthly: submitting your log on time is part of the contest!
Additional data: over 90% of electronic SS logs were submitted in
Cabrillo format last year. The number of paper logs received is
declining every year, and at this point all of them can be descibed
more as "participant" class logs rather than "competitor" class logs.
The beauty of the web results is that these logs can be added to the
list as they dribble in if they are delayed by an anthrax scare or
whatever.
Further data point: of the 1800 WPX SSB logs received thus far by
N8BJQ, 1500 are in Cabrillo format. Please note that unlike the ARRL,
CQ does not *require* electronic logs to be submitted in Cabrillo
format. However, this is not stopping people from submitting Cabrillo
logs anyways.
OK, so there you have the details of my proposal. The purpose of this
message is to solicit feedback from the contest community about how a
15 day log submission deadline would affect *you*. Please feel free
to write me privately, or to post back to the cq-contest list itself
and make your opinion heard -- either way is fine with me.
Please limit your comments to how this change would have affected
*you* personally in a contest during a recent year or how it might
affect you in the future. I am not interested in hearing hypothetical
situations such as "but, but, but, what if someone operates the
contest from the USVI, then goes on a 16 day Carnival Cruise
immediately after the contest, and during the cruise an asteroid falls
out of the sky and disables the communications system rendering the
onboard internet cafe inoperable?" I can think of plenty of
hypothetical situations of this nature on my own, as well as plenty
non-hypothetical ones. Earlier this year I spent 42 days in VP8/F,
VP8/Sand and VP8/G, and I can tell you that I could have beaten the 15
day deadline from any of these places had it been necessary. What I
am looking for is *practical* feedback about problems that the 15 day
deadline could possible create in your own personal situation.
Now is your chance to be heard! Let's hear it!
One final comment: I know people are bumming about losing line scores
in QST -- I'm a little sad too. However, I'm really excited about the
opportunity this gives us to make some lemonade out of the situation
and make work towards the ultimate dream of realtime results at the
end of the contest.
You can say what you want about about WRTC, whether it's fair or
not, or whether the stations were equal or not, whether it proves
anything or not, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, but the OH boys
were handing out the trophies the day after the contest, and in my
book this is totally cool!
Thanks for listening, and feel free to repost this message to your
local contest club mailing list.
--Trey, N5KO & HC8N
>From w5vx at hiline.net Thu Jul 25 21:33:11 2002
From: w5vx@hiline.net (Bill Parry)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Line scores
Message-ID: <NFBBICAGALOBNBAMOGIGGEGNCLAA.w5vx@hiline.net>
Now that this issue seems to be settled, I am willing to accept the change
that was voted by our Board of Directors. I would have preferred that the
line score had been left in QST but we have elected our directors to make
these decisions. I believe that the stories and line scores will serve me
well.
Unfortunately, I believe that we are too willing to accept the high-handed
way this issue was handled originally. I have been a life member of the ARRL
for many years and have always supported it. I thought I was a member of an
organization that elected people to make decisions about our hobby in a open
and honest atmosphere. Apparently, the board fears the membership enough to
operate in secrecy, at least on this occasion. If our Board of Directors
operates in this fashion all the time, we have more problems than line
scores!
Bill - W5VX
"All organizations are perfectly aligned for the results they get."
>From swca at swbell.net Thu Jul 25 22:18:04 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
References: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
<200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com> <3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
<4.2.0.58.20020725184432.00998ca0@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <029701c2344a$ad7e8750$0100a8c0@TL01>
K8CC wrote, among other things:
>They were stored in a back room and the librarian would unlock the
>room and let me sit back there for hours digesting contest results.
Thoughtful insights, Dave.
I can't help thinking, however, that all of us, myself included, who talk
about how great it *used* to be to read about contests in QST are living in
the past.
I can't help thinking that kids today are more web-fluent than we were ever
magazine-fluent. All the kids I mentor (about 5 whiz-kids) do things with
their hands on a keyboard and mouse that I can't even follow because it
happens too fast, and every last one of them types faster than any of us
ever did in High School.
And I think their multi-tasking with Windows is probably the reason
computers are getting faster and require so much more RAM.
So therefore, I think "The future is the web, man." Anyway, I am really
glad the contest reporting energy at the ARRL is focused squarely on the
internet.
Mark, N5OT
PS. Tree, if you don't want to get too close to the lighter fluid with the
match, you can do this really cool thing with a match and a can of WD-40.
>From n4gn at n4gn.com Thu Jul 25 23:24:33 2002
From: n4gn@n4gn.com (Tim Totten, N4GN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
In-Reply-To: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0207252207450.10099-100000@shell1>
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Trey Garlough wrote:
> Toward this end in November 2001 I introduced a propsal to the folks
> at ARRL HQ that the log submission deadline be cut from 30 days to 15
> days, effective with the contest season beginning with the 2002
> November Sweepstakes.
<snip>
> OK, so there you have the details of my proposal. The purpose of this
> message is to solicit feedback from the contest community about how a
> 15 day log submission deadline would affect *you*.
I fully support this proposal! In fact, it's hard to think of much else
to add to Trey's well-reasoned post. I'm certainly hard pressed to dream
up even a wild hypothetical scenario where the difference between a 15-day
and 30-day submission window would make any difference to me. And the
goal of greatly reducing the time to report the results is certainly a
worthy one.
So I'm very much in favor of implementing a 15-day submission window,
starting with this year's SS.
73,
Tim Totten, n4gn@n4gn.com
http://www.n4gn.com
>From n2mg at eham.net Thu Jul 25 23:49:01 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <00e101c2344f$00932820$3201a8c0@mikehome>
I was originally against this proposal when I first heard of it as it forces
us to process some of our Fall contest logs during probably the busiest
contest month of the year, November. As it stands today, I needn't worry
about submitting any logs from the big four (CQWW SSB/CW & SS CW/SSB) until
December. I must say that I like that arrangement. Also, a difference in
15 days hardly made a dent in the time-to-market of the scores.
However, since the removal of line scores from QST will reduce the
processing time significantly, 15 days is now a big percentage...so if
asked, I would vote in favor. I'll eventually get used to the idea (even my
wife admits I can learn new tricks from time to time) and maybe someday we
can shorten it up some more. Removing line scores from QST removes one of
the last vestiges of paper from the contesting world. Continued shortening
of the log submission deadlines will remove what is perhaps the very last
one - paper logs.
I see some new Early Bird awards/pins for the first 100 Cabrillo logs in
with more than 300 QSOs...or even better, all logs received within 1 hour
get a 1000 point bonus!
Mike N2MG
N5KO wrote:
> I introduced a propsal to the folks
> at ARRL HQ that the log submission deadline be cut from 30 days to 15
> days, effective with the contest season beginning with the 2002
> November Sweepstakes.
>From wb0wao at hotmail.com Fri Jul 26 06:29:21 2002
From: wb0wao@hotmail.com (Dennis Ponsness)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL, Line Scores, Etc.
Message-ID: <F15120lbhsKd6QR7j1H000001bd@hotmail.com>
One of the down sides is not seeing you call in print in QST, but I can live
with that. I must say that I am impressed with the content on the ARRL
website. Especially the LCR's - showed me where I needed to improve <grin>
! I can live with the change.
I do agree that the time should be cut to 15 days for submissions AND most
definately that the results be "published" very soon after. 6 months is
waaaay to long to wait. The results should be made available within 30 days
of the event.
Now, when will the 'test logs be incorporated into the "LoTW" project? That
is something that I know I would love to see. If the Q is good enough for
the ARRL to accept as a valid 'test Q, it should be good enough to accept
for WAS, DXCC, etc. I am not a "big gun" in the contesting game (100w,
vertical, wire antennas) and I think I have received a total of a couple
dozen QSL requests from 'test Q's. I can only imagine what a major 'test
station gets!
Anyway, I will still participate in the 'tests, have fun, and give out some
Q's. Look for me in the pileups!
73
Dennis - WB0WAO
(Searchin' and Pouncin')
NJQRP #329
FPQRP #-347
SOC #499
FISTS # 9299
GACW #622
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Fri Jul 26 03:51:59 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
Message-ID: <003f01c23470$f16980c0$6a2745cf@default>
I can't speak for any contest but the CQ 160 Contests. Shortening the
deadline makes sense
if and only if the following occurs:
All logs are submitted electronically and are in PROPER cabrillo
format.
For the 2002 CQ 160 Contests I have received 438 SSB logs and 889 CW Logs
plus check logs
plus check logs. Lets look at the facts! 46 Paper logs were received on
SSB and 77 on CW
Most were small logs but several on both modes were significant. There
were 40 old format electronic logs received on SSB and 89 on CW. Of these
all but 5 were e-mailed. Of the rest supposedly cabrillo I find that 1 out
of 5 do not check as cabrillo and have to be converted before
running through the crass check/log check programs. On top of this I
noticed that 18 on SSB and 31 on CW were lacking cabrillo elements as I
logged them in. We are now up to a significant number of logs in both
modes.
Here are some of the problems:
1. The name of the contest in the cabrillo summary are wrong. There is
an official name for most contests and for me its either CQ-160-CW or
CQ-160-SSB. Anything else and its not cabrillo.
2. The category has fields missing or out of order.
3. The fields in the log portion are out of order or run together. If
the mode and date are run together the log checker tells me mode and or date
is not identified. I then put the log aside until I can put it in Wordpad
and edit it to get correct fields.
I suggest that every contestant should look at the log and if you are not
sure the cabrillo is correct then run it through one of several cabrillo
converter programs. I do find that CT, TR, and Writelog (recent versions)
do produce good cabrillo.
I just finished the SSB logs except for three problem logs and it took a
full two weeks working several hours a day. With 100% cabrillo I could have
checked the logs in a day and 70% of that is set up!. I now face a month of
grinding through the CW logs. Get the log in proper format and the programs
will do the rest!
I am sure the CQ WW, WPX, and ARRL contests must face these problems.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From g3xtt at lineone.net Fri Jul 26 09:51:24 2002
From: g3xtt@lineone.net (Donald Field)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Contest - Announced Operations
Message-ID: <006701c23479$fac38540$39a6403e@field>
Almost there! I have been trying to compile a list of announced operations,
so I thought it might be helpful to share this with the main contest
relectors. I certainly don't pretend it is definitive, but it brings
together information from Daily DX, 425 DX News, and various Web pages
containing announced contest operations. Remarkably, this list contains
announced operations from over 120 island groups, and of course many other
islands will be active too. If you make some QSOs, then do please send in
your log to iota.logs@rsgbhfcc.org (see www.rsgbhfcc.org for full rules) -
usual system, with the log file as (Callsign).LOG or (Callsign).CBR. Enjoy!
EU-001 J45RW
EU-004 EA6URP EA6/DL6YFB
EU-005 M6T G9Q (and many others!!)
EU-006 EJ0A
EU-008 GM2T GM5A
EU-009 GM/F5BLC?
EU-011 M0C
EU-013 GJ2A
EU-015 SV9/PA1AW/P
EU-016 9A7K 9A5V 9A2JY 9A8RR 9A0LH
EU-017 ID9/IK8PGM
EU-020 SM1T SM0DKT/1
EU-023 9H3X 9H3Z 9H3QC
EU-030 OZ/DJ7RJ
EU-031 IC8JAH
EU-032 TM0X
EU-035 R17PQ
EU-038 PA6TEX
EU-042 DL4FCH/P
EU-049 SV8/G4DHF J48S
EU-052 SV1BRL/8
EU-057 DL3KUD/P
EU-064 F6BFH/P
EU-067 SW8L
EU-068 TM2ON
EU-077 ED1URJ
EU-082 RW1ZZ
EU-084 8S5T/0 8S4C/5
EU-089 CU9D
EU-091 II7GR
EU-092 GB5SI
EU-097 OH2/SM0ELV
EU-098 DL0FDX
EU-114 GU8D
EU-115 EI7M
EU-116 MD4K
EU-117 R1MVI
EU-120 G5XV
EU-121 EJ5E
EU-123 GM7X
EU-127 DL5CW/P DL5XL/P DF6QC
EU-128 DH6DG/P DF4XX/P
EU-129 DL0KWH/P
EU-130 IV3/HA8KW/P
EU-132 SN6F/1 SN0WI
EU-133 RI1CGG
EU-136 9A0R 9A/S55A 9A7T/P 9A6AA
EU-143 EA5KB/7
EU-144 IQ8B
EU-146 PI4HQ PA9ZZ/P PA5RA/P
EU-161 RA1QQ
EU-170 9A4A 9A/HB9HAW 9A/HA6PS 9A/HA6NL 9A0A
EU-171 OZ0RM OZ/DL7VOX/P
EU-173 OH9A
EU-175 CU3I
EU-178 ES8X
EU-181 LZ1KSL
EU-184 OH8/ES1RA OH8/ES1FB
EU-186 TA1ED/0
EU-187 SY9DIA
AF-004 EA8BWW
AF-014 CT3KY
AF-016 FR5FD
AF-036 ???
AF-042 EG9IA
AF-065 5C2MI
AS-008 JO1EPY/1
AS-024 JH1MUK/6
AS-032 JA6CM JF6WTY
AS-047 JM1PXG/6
AS-053 E20HHK/P
AS-058 9M2/G4ZFE/P
AS-066 RI0L
AS-080 ???
AS-101 HS1CHB/P
AS-105 DS0DX/2
AS-107 E21EIC/P
AS-117 JA4GXS/4 JA4PXE/4
AS-136 BI4J
AS-137 BI5H
AS-147 JI3DST/8 JR3TVH/8
AS-155 BV9L BV9K
AS-159 YM0T
NA-001 C6DX
NA-014 VE9W
NA-015 CO8LY
NA-026 N2GC
NA-029 VE2DX/VY2 VE1OTA/VY2
NA-032 FP/VE9GLF
NA-033 5K0Z
NA-046 K1VSJ
NA-051 VE7SR? N6HR/VE7 VE7QCR
NA-054 NA8KD
NA-055 W4KJ/1?
NA-058 N2SU
NA-067 N4C
NA-069 K4RFL
NA-075 VE7TMW N7MQ/VE7
NA-076 W4HY
NA-083 N2US/P WF1L/4 W4/LZ3SM KG4NXP KG4OHE AI2P/4
NA-091 AC7PN/VE7
NA-092 K5M
NA-099 KP4AH
NA-105 FS/N3OC
NA-137 KW1DX
NA-141 W4SAA
NA-143 KM5VI
NA-148 AA1IZ WF1N W1DIG
NA-158 WL7O?
NA-213 WW4LL
OC-019 KG9N/KH6
OC-034 YC9WZJ
OC-088 9M6A
OC-154 VK8AN/6
OC-160 VK4FW
OC-169 A35RK
OC-NEW 8A3M
SA-006 PJ2Y
SA-028 ZW2T/P
SA-046 ZX7XX
SA-060 PY8AZT/P
SA-066 YW1T
73 Don G3XTT
IOTA Contest Manager
g3xtt@lineone.net
>From Bill at ng3k.com Fri Jul 26 05:30:39 2002
From: Bill@ng3k.com (Bill@ng3k.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RSGB IOTA Contest Announced Operations
Message-ID: <3D40D06F.5761.1C1FD6@localhost>
IOTA contesters may want to check:
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iota2002.html
This list is sorted by callsign, but users can also get tables
sorted by DXCC-entity and IOTA number by clicking the
corresponding header in the main table or here are the
direct URLs:
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iotad2002.html (By DXCC)
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iotai2002.html (By IOTA)
The table provides: Operation callsign, DXCC Entity, IOTA
reference, Island name, QSL route, Source of info, Operators
and other operational notes.
Hope this is of some use.
73,
Bill/NG3K
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 26 06:23:54 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The Personal Touch
Message-ID: <000d01c2348e$8c7d7db0$0100a8c0@TL01>
I just responded to Trey's "15 days" post and thought I'd throw this out:
1. These days I get on casually for just about everything. (Hopefully this
season N5OT will be ready, but it might not, so I might still be casual this
season).
2. 30 days makes me think "I'll do this later" (so would 15). (My excuse is
I don't have internet at the shack, but even when I operated from home I
still didn't do it right after the contest).
3. More than half the time I forget, because it's not high on the priority
list, because I operated casually.
4. Result - sponsor misses out on some more data, results are one smidge
less comprehensive.
5. If somebody in charge emailed me saying "we know you were on the air
casually, could you send us your data, please?" I would respond favorably.
("Oops. Sorry. Here you go....")
Tree did this from time to time for contests he scored. That old "personal
touch" makes a differernce. I am writing this to cq-contest so the N8BJQs
and N1NDs of the world would consider adding this to their arsenels.
I bet this could be done with software and all the log collector would have
to do is write the text of the resulting email. Trivial. I bet the
software already has this ability built into it just waiting to be used:
"Print a report of callsigns in the contest from whom logs have not yet been
received." Just a guess.
?
Mark, N5OT
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 26 08:19:33 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
scores decision)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0207252207450.10099-100000@shell1>
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020726071807.00a75960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 10:24 PM 7/25/02 -0400, Tim Totten, N4GN wrote:
>I'm certainly hard pressed to dream
>up even a wild hypothetical scenario where the difference between a 15-day
>and 30-day submission window would make any difference to me. And the
>goal of greatly reducing the time to report the results is certainly a
>worthy one.
>
>So I'm very much in favor of implementing a 15-day submission window,
>starting with this year's SS.
I wouldn't mind 15 days either, but I can't, for the life of me, figure out
why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by more than 15
days. Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented just
as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From balister at vt.edu Fri Jul 26 09:57:16 2002
From: balister@vt.edu (balister)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [iota-contest] IOTA Contest - Announced Operations
Message-ID: <3D4243B8@zathras>
You can add:
K4EP/P from NA112. QSL via CBA or buro. Also look for KF4NLM/P, QSL via
CBA or buro.
If we don't have a repeat of this morning storm :) Gotta luv the North
Carolina
coast in July.
Philip
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 26 10:05:13 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
In-Reply-To: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFOELEDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
<<SNIP>>
>
> OK, so there you have the details of my proposal. The purpose of this
> message is to solicit feedback from the contest community about how a
> 15 day log submission deadline would affect *you*. Please feel free
> to write me privately, or to post back to the cq-contest list itself
> and make your opinion heard -- either way is fine with me.
>
> Please limit your comments to how this change would have affected
> *you* personally in a contest during a recent year or how it might
> affect you in the future. I am not interested in hearing hypothetical
> situations such as "but, but, but, what if someone operates the
> contest from the USVI, then goes on a 16 day Carnival Cruise
> immediately after the contest, and during the cruise an asteroid falls
> out of the sky and disables the communications system rendering the
> onboard internet cafe inoperable?" I can think of plenty of
> hypothetical situations of this nature on my own, as well as plenty
> non-hypothetical ones. Earlier this year I spent 42 days in VP8/F,
> VP8/Sand and VP8/G, and I can tell you that I could have beaten the 15
> day deadline from any of these places had it been necessary. What I
> am looking for is *practical* feedback about problems that the 15 day
> deadline could possible create in your own personal situation.
I fully support this proposal. Something like this was EXACTLY what I was
hoping would be the consequence of moving the line scores out of QST.
As for some of your assumptions... Personally, the first thing I do with my
logs is immediately copy them to another media and then I either process the
logs the next day/evening (once my head is moderately clear), or they sit in
the computer until the deadline looms near. The absolute number of days to
the deadline has never been an issue with me. I've never been on a
DXpedition in a contest, however. But, it's hard for me to imagine any
location in the world that, short of a boat sinking or airplane crashing,
would not allow me to get to an internet port within 15 days. Or, put
differently, I would plan for that to happen with plenty of time to spare
for backup.
As evidence 15 days' being sufficient, I'll relate some of my experience
with cruise lines. I note that just about every cruise line offers cruises
in the 10-12 day-long time frame. In that time, a cruise can get you from
Istanbul to the east coast of Spain. Or, from Southampton, England to
Athens. Transatlantic is much shorter. BA to the Antarctic and back is
slightly less. And that's mostly with overnight cruising and sitting in a
port all day or meandering in beautiful bays looking at wildlife during the
day. So, can a fishing trawler make it from Unreachable Rock to Internet
City in 10-12 days without the sightseeing delays? Absolutely, IMHO.
<Now, if the deal is, he has to stop to fish, dunno :-)) >
Nice job. Thanks for taking the lead on vastly improving our results
publication.
Vy 73,
Gary W2CS
Apex, NC
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 26 10:21:21 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020725184432.00998ca0@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIELFDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Dave,
Your expose brought back some personal memories that were very similar. As
a kid I, too, would pour over contest line scores and imagine what kind of
station and op skills were required to be in that top ten list. Or, plot
how I was going to beat the kid across town who thoroughly trounced me in a
SS with only dipoles. I'd analyze the hell of them. Hell, I still do!
Kids of today (kids of all ages, but "kids") will have no problem doing the
same thing with the internet results. In fact, the various
searching/sorting will likely improve it a bit. As we, the contesting
community, become accustomed to this resource, I'm sure the copy will
improve as will pictures and station descriptions.
Bud, K2KIR, made an excellent point when he expresses concern about losing
the line scores as web sites change, systems crash, etc. A hundred
thousand printed copies probably stand a better chance of being kept safe
over time than web site content does.
I don't know if ARRL HQ still does this, but years ago they would keep at
least one copy of every QST (and other League pub) ever published. It was
neat to visit HQ and be able to pull one of these and gingerly look through
it. Something equivalent to that really needs to be implemented for the
computer line scores and writeups. In many ways these contest results,
pictures and station descriptions are our history. They show what we looked
like (gads!), bring back memories of that equipment we thought was state of
the art (we really made Qs with THAT?), and sets a statistical base for
comparision with future efforts (nr of participants, top scores, scores vs
sunspot cycle, ...).
What's the best way of preserving web site content for the future? I'm a
user of the web, not a web site architect. Is it possible to capture a
"snapshot" of the ARRL site or subset thereof that can be activated later
and still work? (Note this implies probably storing the computer image on
which it resides, and maybe at some points the computer itself, so that
supporting software is part of the archive.) I don't think the equivalent
of a batch of QSTs in a climate-controlled room is easily accomplished.
But it should be done.
73,
Gary W2CS
Apex, NC
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of David A. Pruett
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:08 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
>
>
> Back in the early seventies when I was a new ham (licensed 2-3 years) and
> starting to get very enthused about contesting, the QST contest writeups
> were a HUGE factor in increasing my knowledge. I was fortunate that the
> library at community college I attended for the first few years
> after high
> school had a rather complete collection of QSTs for the prior
> fifteen years
> or so. They were stored in a back room and the librarian would
> unlock the
> room and let me sit back there for hours digesting contest results.
>
> What was it that attracted my interest - line scores? Heck no!
> First, it
> was pictures of contest stations; no, not stations with a DX40 and an
> NC300, but pictures of competitive stations like W3GRF, K1LPL/3, XE1IIJ,
> W7RM, etc. It was always interesting to see what these guys were
> running,
> which gave me something to aspire to. Second were the tables
> showing QSOs
> and mults (varied depending on the contest); again, showing me what was
> possible. And finally, contest writeups which explained the
> contest - who
> beat who, and why; significant scores, antecdotes, etc.; much more than
> simple recitations of first, second and third places in each category.
>
> Its been a number of years since I've read a contest writeup in a
> magazine
> which I truly enjoyed. The CQWW writeups, IMHO, are better than the ARRL
> ones because K3EST is deeply involved in the contest and understands what
> went on. I commend the ARRL recent writeups (particularly the on-line
> versions) by guest authors which have been a great improvement and will
> continue to get better as these writers gain experience (that is,
> assuming
> they don't burn out and quit). Still there is room for
> improvement - IMHO
> there needs to be more pictures and more comparison breakdowns. For
> example, the January VHF SS writeup lacked the traditional boxes with top
> QSOs and grids per band. I'm not sure whether scoring info by band was
> available in the results - even if so, sorting through hundreds of scores
> is a lot of work for the reader when the author might be able to run a
> database query and format it into a table with little work.
>
> I believe that an attractive, interesting article about the results of a
> contest has a place in QST. I'm not so much against including
> line scores
> as I am a proponent of better use of space. I'd prefer to *read
> about the
> contest* and opposed to going glassy-eyed over columns of data.
>
> At the same time, we contesters need to get off our butts. We need to
> submit more photos, stories, etc. about our contest efforts as
> material for
> the writeup authors to use. And those of us who are capable of writing
> need to step up and volunteer to do the writeups. N1ND's time is put to
> much better use making the contest results happen.
>
> FWIW.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave/K8CC
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Jul 26 09:40:24 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <029701c2344a$ad7e8750$0100a8c0@TL01>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207260830540.21444-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> I can't help thinking that kids today are more web-fluent than we were ever
> magazine-fluent. All the kids I mentor (about 5 whiz-kids) do things with
> their hands on a keyboard and mouse that I can't even follow because it
> happens too fast, and every last one of them types faster than any of us
> ever did in High School.
>
Yes, but can they string up a 40 meter dipole? Solder parts onto a PC
poard? (I won't even say surface-mount IC's.) Replace a water pump on an
Intrepid? (I replaced a water pump on a 1963 Chevy when I was 16, but
replacing one on an Intrepid may well be impossible :-)
It is true that computers have become an important part of many peoples'
lives, but there is still the real world out there and I still believe in
Robert Heinlein's long list of "things a man should be able to do" - to
quote him, "specialization is for insects."
>
> PS. Tree, if you don't want to get too close to the lighter fluid with the
> match, you can do this really cool thing with a match and a can of WD-40.
>
Someone showed me that trick once as a possible self-defense device. I
guess as long as the spray is blowing the flame AWAY from the nozzle,
you're OK, but you have to watch it when you stop spraying. :-)
73, Zack W9SZ
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 26 10:15:53 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
References: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207260830540.21444-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <006f01c234af$ffb701e0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Zack asked:
> Yes, but can they string up a 40 meter dipole? Solder parts onto a PC
> poard? (I won't even say surface-mount IC's.) Replace a water pump on an
> Intrepid? (I replaced a water pump on a 1963 Chevy when I was 16, but
> replacing one on an Intrepid may well be impossible :-)
Well, one of them can put up a dipole, I know. He's licensed and has
antennas up. I helped, too. I know another one of them can do his own
major car repairs. I don't know if any of them solder.
It's a good point, Zack, but my comment was mostly aimed at "where
youngsters are most likely to bump into contest results." I think they are
more likely to find it by random webbing than by walking down the street and
seeing QST any more.
Mark, N5OT
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 26 10:26:54 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020726071807.00a75960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <009601c234b0$9bf2e330$0100a8c0@TL01>
>I can't, for the life of me, figure out
>why that should improve timeliness of result
>delivery by more than 15 days.
Um, web-based results? Trey said:
>45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
Now that QST results are history, there's another 45 days right there. The
time is right to try and move closer to quicker results.
Mark, N5OT
>From W4EF at dellroy.com Fri Jul 26 08:29:43 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Michael Tope)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
References: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIELFDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <179001c234b0$e2492c90$6501a8c0@1800XP>
Gary,
If you do a "save as" from internet explorer, it will save everything
you are looking at. I use this to save Ebay transactions that eventually
go away from their website.
73 de Mike, W4EF...................
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 6:21 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
> Dave,
>
> Your expose brought back some personal memories that were very similar.
As
> a kid I, too, would pour over contest line scores and imagine what kind of
> station and op skills were required to be in that top ten list. Or, plot
> how I was going to beat the kid across town who thoroughly trounced me in
a
> SS with only dipoles. I'd analyze the hell of them. Hell, I still do!
>
> Kids of today (kids of all ages, but "kids") will have no problem doing
the
> same thing with the internet results. In fact, the various
> searching/sorting will likely improve it a bit. As we, the contesting
> community, become accustomed to this resource, I'm sure the copy will
> improve as will pictures and station descriptions.
>
> Bud, K2KIR, made an excellent point when he expresses concern about losing
> the line scores as web sites change, systems crash, etc. A hundred
> thousand printed copies probably stand a better chance of being kept safe
> over time than web site content does.
>
> I don't know if ARRL HQ still does this, but years ago they would keep at
> least one copy of every QST (and other League pub) ever published. It was
> neat to visit HQ and be able to pull one of these and gingerly look
through
> it. Something equivalent to that really needs to be implemented for the
> computer line scores and writeups. In many ways these contest results,
> pictures and station descriptions are our history. They show what we
looked
> like (gads!), bring back memories of that equipment we thought was state
of
> the art (we really made Qs with THAT?), and sets a statistical base for
> comparision with future efforts (nr of participants, top scores, scores vs
> sunspot cycle, ...).
>
> What's the best way of preserving web site content for the future? I'm a
> user of the web, not a web site architect. Is it possible to capture a
> "snapshot" of the ARRL site or subset thereof that can be activated later
> and still work? (Note this implies probably storing the computer image on
> which it resides, and maybe at some points the computer itself, so that
> supporting software is part of the archive.) I don't think the equivalent
> of a batch of QSTs in a climate-controlled room is easily accomplished.
>
> But it should be done.
>
> 73,
>
> Gary W2CS
> Apex, NC
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of David A. Pruett
> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:08 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
> >
> >
> > Back in the early seventies when I was a new ham (licensed 2-3 years)
and
> > starting to get very enthused about contesting, the QST contest writeups
> > were a HUGE factor in increasing my knowledge. I was fortunate that the
> > library at community college I attended for the first few years
> > after high
> > school had a rather complete collection of QSTs for the prior
> > fifteen years
> > or so. They were stored in a back room and the librarian would
> > unlock the
> > room and let me sit back there for hours digesting contest results.
> >
> > What was it that attracted my interest - line scores? Heck no!
> > First, it
> > was pictures of contest stations; no, not stations with a DX40 and an
> > NC300, but pictures of competitive stations like W3GRF, K1LPL/3, XE1IIJ,
> > W7RM, etc. It was always interesting to see what these guys were
> > running,
> > which gave me something to aspire to. Second were the tables
> > showing QSOs
> > and mults (varied depending on the contest); again, showing me what was
> > possible. And finally, contest writeups which explained the
> > contest - who
> > beat who, and why; significant scores, antecdotes, etc.; much more than
> > simple recitations of first, second and third places in each category.
> >
> > Its been a number of years since I've read a contest writeup in a
> > magazine
> > which I truly enjoyed. The CQWW writeups, IMHO, are better than the
ARRL
> > ones because K3EST is deeply involved in the contest and understands
what
> > went on. I commend the ARRL recent writeups (particularly the on-line
> > versions) by guest authors which have been a great improvement and will
> > continue to get better as these writers gain experience (that is,
> > assuming
> > they don't burn out and quit). Still there is room for
> > improvement - IMHO
> > there needs to be more pictures and more comparison breakdowns. For
> > example, the January VHF SS writeup lacked the traditional boxes with
top
> > QSOs and grids per band. I'm not sure whether scoring info by band was
> > available in the results - even if so, sorting through hundreds of
scores
> > is a lot of work for the reader when the author might be able to run a
> > database query and format it into a table with little work.
> >
> > I believe that an attractive, interesting article about the results of a
> > contest has a place in QST. I'm not so much against including
> > line scores
> > as I am a proponent of better use of space. I'd prefer to *read
> > about the
> > contest* and opposed to going glassy-eyed over columns of data.
> >
> > At the same time, we contesters need to get off our butts. We need to
> > submit more photos, stories, etc. about our contest efforts as
> > material for
> > the writeup authors to use. And those of us who are capable of writing
> > need to step up and volunteer to do the writeups. N1ND's time is put to
> > much better use making the contest results happen.
> >
> > FWIW.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Dave/K8CC
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 26 08:47:22 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade
In-Reply-To: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020726073248.00af9470@pop3.eskimo.com>
At 06:10 PM 7/25/2002 -0700, Trey Garlough wrote:
Over the past couple of years I have noticed a trend in how contest
logs are submitted. There is one spike that occurs right after the
contest and another spike the occurs right before the log submission
deadline, and during the intervening weeks the robot becomes very
quiet.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I might add that the same exact scenario plays out on the
unofficial 3830 summaries. In the past, I would only post
summaries for a couple weeks after a contest. However, I noticed
we could lose a significant number of participants that always
waited until just before the deadline. For that reason, the
final summary is now always after the log deadline even if
intervening weeks are empty of posts.
I'm sure there are a myriad of reasons for those late logs
but I personally feel 2 weeks and a day are more than sufficient to
get the results in. I also agree it's part of the contest to meet
whatever deadline is set. Seeing line scores six months after
the event (BTW, that's QST - CQ magazine is 12 months!) is like
reading box scores for the local ball team after the season is over.
My input to this "voice" vote - aye! :>)
73
dink, n7wa
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Fri Jul 26 10:06:00 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020726071807.00a75960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <014c01c234b5$f3d3bca0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
> I wouldn't mind 15 days either, but I can't, for the life of me, figure
out
> why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by more than 15
> days. Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented
just
> as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
Excellent point! 15 days is a small saving -- 6-12 months is a big saving.
It would be less disruptive to leave the submission window at 30 days and
have the results posted to the web within 60 days.
BUT what happens if you are not an ARRL member - do you have to wait an
additional 30 days until, for example, the SS results are release from the
members only section? I have never understood the logic of encouraging
everyone to enter contests and then penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30
day waiting period. I wonder if this annoying and discriminating policy will
change with movement of line scores to the web?
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 26 12:07:13 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
scores decision)
In-Reply-To: <009601c234b0$9bf2e330$0100a8c0@TL01>
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020726071807.00a75960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020726110630.025cb280@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 09:26 AM 7/26/02 -0500, N5OT wrote:
> >I can't, for the life of me, figure out
> >why that should improve timeliness of result
> >delivery by more than 15 days.
>
>Um, web-based results? Trey said:
>
> >45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
>
>Now that QST results are history, there's another 45 days right there. The
>time is right to try and move closer to quicker results.
Mark, my point was that all of those things could be (are) happening
regardless of whether the log deadline is 15 or 30 days, so the net
improvement from that single change is only 15 days.
I just think that the 30 to 15-day change needs to be considered on its own
merits.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From k1mk at arrl.net Fri Jul 26 09:18:52 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
Message-ID:
<20020726081853.28731.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Fri, 26 July 2002, Pete Smith wrote:
> but I can't, for the life of me,
> figure out why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by
> more than 15 days.
I think you're right Pete, the big improvement in what Trey is proposing
comes from challenging the log checkers (and maybe even the article
writers) to turn things around ASAP rather than working to the deadlines
imposed by the QST publication schedule.
> Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented
> just as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
Previoulsy, was there anything to prevent scores and even the entire
results article from being prepared well in advance of their required
deadlines?
73,
Mike K1MK
Michael Keane K1MK
k1mk@arrl.net
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From n6nt at ispwest.com Fri Jul 26 09:38:07 2002
From: n6nt@ispwest.com (Bruce Sawyer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
Message-ID: <000701c234ba$785fc960$ab755142@fpfzqlga>
Dink sez:
>However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
>going on-line in three short words.
>
>
>I like 'em.
Ditto. I don't know who did the web page design on this one, but I think it
is absolutely fabulous. You can ask the page to select entries by a number
of different criteria (e.g. club, power level, category) and then sort the
selected entries by a succession of different criteria. It's trivially easy
to manipulate all the data in just about any way you can imagine, and the
results are clearly presented. Somebody did one heck of a good job in
designing this thing, and I think it's a huge step forward. Matter of
fact, it took me no time at all to see that among the HP entrants in the 10m
contest there was only one case where the US/VE winner beat the DX winner:
K1KI over little 'ole me. Kudos to Tom for that one.
Bruce, N6NT/ZF2NT
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 26 12:27:38 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #285 - 14 msgs
References: <200207261504.g6QF4UhF030447@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <025801c234ba$65f03e40$03010a0a@office1>
Dennis,
My understanding (and I could be wrong) from people I've talked to both at
the League and/or involved in Logbook of the World is that contest logs will
not automatically be sent over to the LotW system. There are a lot of good
reasons for this, but the chief one is that you have to (or will have to)
have a registered digital signature in order to upload logs to LotW for
security reasons. I'm sure many will argue that this is an unnecessary step
or overbearing secruity requirements, but that's the way it's going to be.
But if you think it through... OK, so you email your Cabrillo log in to the
contest desk. What's one more email to the LotW system -- 15 seconds? So
it really shouldn't be a problem as a practical matter.
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Ponsness" <wb0wao@hotmail.com>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL, Line Scores, Etc.
One of the down sides is not seeing you call in print in QST, but I can live
with that. I must say that I am impressed with the content on the ARRL
website. Especially the LCR's - showed me where I needed to improve <grin>
! I can live with the change.
I do agree that the time should be cut to 15 days for submissions AND most
definately that the results be "published" very soon after. 6 months is
waaaay to long to wait. The results should be made available within 30 days
of the event.
Now, when will the 'test logs be incorporated into the "LoTW" project? That
is something that I know I would love to see. If the Q is good enough for
the ARRL to accept as a valid 'test Q, it should be good enough to accept
for WAS, DXCC, etc. I am not a "big gun" in the contesting game (100w,
vertical, wire antennas) and I think I have received a total of a couple
dozen QSL requests from 'test Q's. I can only imagine what a major 'test
station gets!
Anyway, I will still participate in the 'tests, have fun, and give out some
Q's. Look for me in the pileups!
73
Dennis - WB0WAO
(Searchin' and Pouncin')
NJQRP #329
FPQRP #-347
SOC #499
FISTS # 9299
GACW #622
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Jul 26 12:17:04 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <006f01c234af$ffb701e0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207261106040.27046-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> Zack asked:
>
> > Yes, but can they string up a 40 meter dipole? Solder parts onto a PC
> > poard? (I won't even say surface-mount IC's.) Replace a water pump on an
> > Intrepid? (I replaced a water pump on a 1963 Chevy when I was 16, but
> > replacing one on an Intrepid may well be impossible :-)
>
> Well, one of them can put up a dipole, I know. He's licensed and has
> antennas up. I helped, too. I know another one of them can do his own
> major car repairs. I don't know if any of them solder.
>
> It's a good point, Zack, but my comment was mostly aimed at "where
> youngsters are most likely to bump into contest results." I think they are
> more likely to find it by random webbing than by walking down the street and
> seeing QST any more.
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
Yes, it sure is easier to locate them on the web than in other places. I
haven't even looked at any of the local magazine stands in years, so I
don't know if QST or CQ or any ham radio mags are there.
W2EV recently made an example file of what can be done with line scores
on internet that would take up way too much space in a magazine. His
example was for a VHF QSO party. Lots of extra data including antennas
used and gain on each band, elevation above MSL, elevation above average
terrain, power on each band, etc. The extra space isn't so much of a
concern on internet. So lots of pictures can also be posted.
That sort of thing might get some youngsters excited. It would probably
get me excited, too!
73, Zack W9SZ
>From k1mk at arrl.net Fri Jul 26 10:31:19 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
Message-ID:
<20020726093124.7537.h002.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Fri, 26 July 2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> > I can't, for the life of me, figure out
> > why that should improve timeliness of result
> > delivery by more than 15 days.
>
> Um, web-based results? Trey said:
>
> > 45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
>
> Now that QST results are history, there's another 45 days right
> there.
It's unclear to which date that 45 day lead time is measured relative.
The ad deadline for QST is something like 45 days prior to the date of
issue so it makes sense if that was the editorial deadline as well.
For some time contest results articles have been published to the Web
some 4 to 6 weeks prior to their date of issue i.e. results appearing in
September QST are on the Web site now.
So it's likely that most of the delay that could have been attributed to
that 45 day lead has already been history for a while.
Other than an understandable reluctance to freeze changes well in
advance of the deadline for going to production, was there ever anything
standing in the way of early release of results?
73,
Mike K1MK
Michael Keane K1MK
k1mk@arrl.net
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>From pschipelliti at att.net Fri Jul 26 19:08:56 2002
From: pschipelliti@att.net (pschipelliti@att.net)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Vertical Advice Needed
Message-ID:
<20020726180857.ITIE12658.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>
Hi Gang,
The W1DAD / K1MOM little pistol antenna farm presently
consists of two Carolina Windom Antennas (CW160 special
and CW620) at about 35-40 feet and a Cushcraft R7000+
ground mounted trap vertical.
This week we aquired two other used vertical antennas
that need to be restored. They are a GAP Challenger DX-
VIII and a Butternut HF6V. I have the manuals for both.
The R7000+ needs some work and since we have two more
antennas to "play" with, I want to swap out the R7000+
with either the GAP or the Butternut.
I have read the antenna reviews in the various journals
and looked at all of the eham.net reviews.
If you could put up either antenna, would you restore
the GAP or the Butternut? I would really like to
improve my 80 meter tx/rx so that may influence my
choice.
If you have knowledge or experience concerning these
antennas, which would you install?
I realize that there are many other, preferable antennas
and configurations. Overall, I'm happy with my Carolina
Windoms. I simply want to know which of these two
verticals would you use to replace the R7000+ as a
backup antenna?
Thanks & 73
Peter W1DAD@ARRL.NET
Atkinson, NH
>From wstinson at listenup.com Fri Jul 26 13:16:55 2002
From: wstinson@listenup.com (Walton Stinson, W0CP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <014001c234d0$a362d380$3652a8c0@listenup.com>
Now that the changes to QST are official policy, I'd like to explain why it
happened, what it means, and why I voted as I did.
Ever since the League started doing readership surveys, we have known that
section news and contest line scores have very low readership. We also know
that they serve an essential function, that's why we have kept them. Several
years back, when we began our WEB initiative, we were hopeful that the web site
would eventually reach a level of sophistication and member acceptance that
would allow it to take over some of the "narrow casting" that we have been
forced for so many years to squeeze into QST. We realized then that the WEB
could potentially do a much better job of providing special interest member
communications, since it would be free from the severe restrictions on space
and the deadlines that go along with being in QST, thereby freeing space for
more feature articles in the journal. That day has now arrived.
While this will allow us to reduce our page count, to call this a cost
saving move would miss the real point. This is not a short term cost saving
move that was just thought up. We have been considering this for at least
five years. It is a common sense business decision that makes sense outside
of any cost saving considerations. QST is our most tangible member benefit,
and it's also a general interest magazine (we support some significant special
interests with NCJ, QEX, the WEB, and the DX Annual). We must give our
editorial staff the ability to choose material for QST that is going to have
the
greatest overall appeal to our membership. We know that section news and
contest line scores are important to publish, but pages of numbers and
callsigns don't have much general appeal. Even those who are regular readers
are likely to read just a tiny part of the coverage. Yet, together they consume
over 170 pages each year. Those pages are worth $4,437 each. Do the math. This
is not a trivial allocation of League resources.
Today, we are doing a better job for section news and contest results on the
WEB than we ever could do in QST, and we've just begun. It's simply a more
appropriate medium for delivering the info.We have an exceptional web site,
staffed by real pro's. For contests, we can release results months sooner,
and in searchable, sortable data base files. Now, we will have the freedom
to focus on the how, why, where, and fun of contesting in QST, rather than
publishing rows of numbers and call signs in tiny print. Now, we can use QST
to provide articles about the most interesting section or contest
activities - articles that will actually be read by most of the 160,000 hams
who receive the publication. We will actually have the ability to promote
these activities through expanded feature stories.
There are some who will view this proposal as a sign of decreased support
for contesting or section activities. That is definitely not the case. This
is simply a change. As both management and the board know from experience,
change does not occur easily at the League. Whatever the issue, there is
always a vocal minority that prefers things to stay as they are. And that's
fine. Changes like this shouldn't be easy. However, change is absolutely
necessary for the continued success and viability of any organization,
including the League. We now have the opportunity to improve our reporting of
section activities and contesting, while also improving the value and quality
of QST to the majority of our members. Let's make the most of it.
73, Walt W0CP
ARRL Director (RM)
(and past chairman of the Contest Advisory Committee)
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>From k0emt at dbbear.com Fri Jul 26 19:48:18 2002
From: k0emt@dbbear.com (Bryan - k0emt)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Line Scores - Backup/Alternate DB
In-Reply-To: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIELFDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
References: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIELFDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <20020726.18481889@mis.configured.host>
On 2002-07-26, 08:21:21, "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net> wrote
regarding RE: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores:
> What's the best way of preserving web site content for the future?
Well the web site offers to save the current selection
as either a CSV (Comma Separated Values) or Tab Delimited file.
If results for the entire contest are selected (no filters applied).
You can save the entire contents of either file.
Perhaps, contesting.com could "backup" the results on their website.
Maybe offering an alternate/additional interface to viewing/sorting?
If a database were to be built including all contests,
it could offer a way to see individual results over the years
in the same contest. It'd provide for numerous possibilities.
Of course this interface should provide for CSV, TAB and XML output.
73,
Bryan ? k0emt
http://www.dbbear.com/k0emt/
>From n2mg at contesting.com Fri Jul 26 12:52:51 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade
Message-ID:
<20020726115252.12010.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
N4ZR wrote:
> (M)y point was that all of those things could be
> (are) happening regardless of whether the log
> deadline is 15 or 30 days, so the net
> improvement from that single change is only 15 days.
For linescores on the web:
time-to-publish = DEADLINE + PROCESSING.
Currently DEADLINE = 30 days and according to Trey,
PROCESSING = 15 days. So the total is 45 days. Cut
DEADLINE to 15 days and we get a 33% improvement in
time-to-publish.
> I just think that the 30 to 15-day change needs to
> be considered on its own merits.
Suggesting the 30-to-15 day change only makes sense in
the aftermath of the recent reduction in publishing
leadtime enabled by the removal of line scores from
QST. Make this suggestion 6 months ago, and 15 days
would be virtually meaningless. Today, not so. And
in a way, it is standing on its own merits - the rest
of the improvement in score-publishing time is pretty
much a done deal. All that's left is the deadline.
73 Mike N2MG
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>From k8cc at comcast.net Fri Jul 26 15:51:07 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
In-Reply-To: <003f01c23470$f16980c0$6a2745cf@default>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020726143124.009b82a0@mail.comcast.net>
Speaking as another logchecker, I agree totally with the comments made by
K4JRB. If we are going to have fifteen day log deadlines and thirty days
for results, then we're going to have to live with the following realities:
1. Not enough time to guarantee arrival for overseas logs coming by postal
mail, whether on paper or floppy disk. I think that we here in America
take e-mail for granted and I for one am not willing to preclude entries
from stations who for whatever reason cannot electronically submit.
2. The entrant will have to be responsible for submitting a log in the
correct format. This is not a minor problem - in the 2001 ARRL 10M
Contest, 200 of the 2100+ electronic logs had errors as submitted which
would have precluded them being included in the results, and many of these
were big guns. Most of these are cockpit errors, which tell me that the
fast majority of entrants never look at their log files before mailing them
in. In the case of the 10M contest, fixing these problem logs (manual
editing, requesting new logs) took over 30 man-hours. With the compressed
timetables being proposed, anything more than minor corrections will go
into the bit bucket.
As Trey pointed out, the web site results could be updated for late logs
and corrections. However, if we allow for this what point is there to
publishing results after 30 days when the standings might change after 40
days? Furthermore, when is the cutoff to issue awards?
My point here is that there is more to this that simply decided to compress
the timeframe. If you want fast, recognize that there will be more
responsibility on you, the entrant if you want to be sure to make the results.
73,
Dave/K8CC
>From olinger at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 26 15:56:51 2002
From: olinger@bellsouth.net (olinger@bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
Message-ID: <20020726185651.GPWC1173.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@localhost>
ARRL will only take cabrillo, and they have a robot which bounces the log email
if something is amiss.
Otherwise they have the same problems you do.
I think that eventually the idea has to go away that there is someone at Log
Central who will convert and/or clean it up for you no matter how screwed up.
Go to cabrillo, period, clone ARRL's robot and bounce stuff that isn't in
format. No paper logs. 15 days. Run the programs and publish. 30 days.
Personally, I think it is arrogant and careless for people submitting logs to
think that there is a crew there just drooling to type in their logs and clean
up for them. Write a note back and ask them if their mother still picks up
their socks and underwear.
When all logs were paper it was a different deal, but it is a real stretch to
think that someone does not have access to a computer somewhere. Maybe
exceptions here and there, but 10% of the logs? Just refuse. PC's are
ubiquitous. Leave it to the log submitter to figure out how to get it into
email.
If one of our local contesters was having problems, the local chapter of PVRC
would do something to help out. One of our guys. Our business. Take care of our
own and all of that to keep up the club score.
Frankly there is enough stuff around, that in the rare case a DX type just
couldn't swing it, some number of us would put something together and SEND THEM
a PC, rather than lose the mult in the contest.
Have you seen the photo of an African native, nose ring, spectacular tribal
dress and headgear, spear, and all, setting down with his Mac powerbook, going
through his email?
TIME TO MOVE ON.
Things we do repeatedly on short notice and work around them when we're on
trips, etc:
Pay the mortgage
Pay the power bill
Pay the phone bill
Pay the water bill
Pay taxes
Renew driver's license
Renew car tags
Carry out the garbage for the collector
etc, etc, etc.
15 days to log, 30 days to final results. Yea. Bring it on.
73,
Guy, K2AV
>
> From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
>
> I can't speak for any contest but the CQ 160 Contests. Shortening the
> deadline makes sense
> if and only if the following occurs:
> All logs are submitted electronically and are in PROPER cabrillo
> format.
>
> For the 2002 CQ 160 Contests I have received 438 SSB logs and 889 CW Logs
> plus check logs
> plus check logs. Lets look at the facts! 46 Paper logs were received on
> SSB and 77 on CW
> Most were small logs but several on both modes were significant. There
> were 40 old format electronic logs received on SSB and 89 on CW. Of these
> all but 5 were e-mailed. Of the rest supposedly cabrillo I find that 1 out
> of 5 do not check as cabrillo and have to be converted before
> running through the crass check/log check programs. On top of this I
> noticed that 18 on SSB and 31 on CW were lacking cabrillo elements as I
> logged them in. We are now up to a significant number of logs in both
> modes.
>
> Here are some of the problems:
>
> 1. The name of the contest in the cabrillo summary are wrong. There is
> an official name for most contests and for me its either CQ-160-CW or
> CQ-160-SSB. Anything else and its not cabrillo.
> 2. The category has fields missing or out of order.
> 3. The fields in the log portion are out of order or run together. If
> the mode and date are run together the log checker tells me mode and or date
> is not identified. I then put the log aside until I can put it in Wordpad
> and edit it to get correct fields.
>
> I suggest that every contestant should look at the log and if you are not
> sure the cabrillo is correct then run it through one of several cabrillo
> converter programs. I do find that CT, TR, and Writelog (recent versions)
> do produce good cabrillo.
>
> I just finished the SSB logs except for three problem logs and it took a
> full two weeks working several hours a day. With 100% cabrillo I could have
> checked the logs in a day and 70% of that is set up!. I now face a month of
> grinding through the CW logs. Get the log in proper format and the programs
> will do the rest!
>
> I am sure the CQ WW, WPX, and ARRL contests must face these problems.
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
>
>
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>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Fri Jul 26 21:16:44 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20020725074143.00a7c830@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <VA.00000008.00f44c39@gw3njw>
> However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
> going on-line in three short words.
>
>
> I like 'em.
>
Erm, am I being dense here, is there a way to separate the scores by
continent as there was in QST? That is invaluable.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
Contest Cambria-http://www.gw7x.org
>From k5zd at charter.net Fri Jul 26 21:10:28 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
In-Reply-To: <014c01c234b5$f3d3bca0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDEEEODLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
You said:
> I have never understood the logic of encouraging everyone to enter
contests and then
> penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30 day waiting period.
Maybe to encourage people to join the ARRL? Seems a reasonable goal since
they are sponsoring the event...
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Sylvan Katz
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 15:06 PM
> To: Contest Reflector
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
> scores decision)
>
>
> > I wouldn't mind 15 days either, but I can't, for the life of me, figure
> out
> > why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by more than 15
> > days. Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented
> just
> > as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
>
> Excellent point! 15 days is a small saving -- 6-12 months is a big saving.
> It would be less disruptive to leave the submission window at 30 days and
> have the results posted to the web within 60 days.
>
> BUT what happens if you are not an ARRL member - do you have to wait an
> additional 30 days until, for example, the SS results are release from the
> members only section? I have never understood the logic of encouraging
> everyone to enter contests and then penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30
> day waiting period. I wonder if this annoying and discriminating
> policy will
> change with movement of line scores to the web?
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
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> Saskatoon, SK
> "A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 26 17:18:39 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
References: <200207261939.g6QJd3hF019844@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <02df01c234e3$01495980$03010a0a@office1>
Sylvan,
At the moment, the web results are available "early" to League members and
are not available to the public until approx. 30 days after being published
in QST. Obviously this is an attempt to encourage people to join the
League.
However, that does not mean that this will continue once the line scores
move to the web. If you think about it, since the line scores will never be
published again after 1 Jan 2003, there is no longer a purpose to the delay.
So, I would not be at all surprised if this policy changes after the 1st.
But that is a guess on my part -- Dan N1ND up at ARRL Hq would be a better
person to ask that of.
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
From: Sylvan Katz <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
To: Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Sylvan Katz <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
> I wouldn't mind 15 days either, but I can't, for the life of me, figure
out
> why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by more than 15
> days. Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented
just
> as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
Excellent point! 15 days is a small saving -- 6-12 months is a big saving.
It would be less disruptive to leave the submission window at 30 days and
have the results posted to the web within 60 days.
BUT what happens if you are not an ARRL member - do you have to wait an
additional 30 days until, for example, the SS results are release from the
members only section? I have never understood the logic of encouraging
everyone to enter contests and then penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30
day waiting period. I wonder if this annoying and discriminating policy will
change with movement of line scores to the web?
.. sylvan
????
----------------
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Saskatoon, SK
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http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 26 17:27:36 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207261939.g6QJd3hF019844@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <02e001c234e3$0442c360$03010a0a@office1>
The long lead times go back to the early days of most contests when all of
the logs were submitted on (horrors!) paper, including dupe sheets, and
hand-written to boot. The long time lags were once required to give the
poor souls on the contest committees time to process (by hand) the logs and
assemble the summaries.
Given that the vast majority of us now use digital means to keep and submit
our contest logs, and given that some format standardization (ie CT, TRLog,
Cabrillo, etc. formats) can easily be mandated, which in turn implies that
more automation can be used to do some of the intial log comparisons... it
now seems obvious to conclude that the long lead times are no longer
neccesary for the vast majority.
I am not entirely comfortable with shaving the entry deadline from one month
to 15 days, though. There are enough extenuating circumstances where I
could see some problems. However, since we ought to be saving many months
in time between the easier methods of compiling the logs, and not having to
wait an additional 45 days between submission-to-printer, printing, and
mailing the magazine, I suggest we hold off on shaving the deadlines until
we see how much of an effect the other time savings has.
In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys? Tell me if
I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the contest
instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
To: swca@swbell.net
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
From: "Michael Keane, K1MK" <k1mk@arrl.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
On Fri, 26 July 2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> > I can't, for the life of me, figure out
> > why that should improve timeliness of result
> > delivery by more than 15 days.
>
> Um, web-based results? Trey said:
>
> > 45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
>
> Now that QST results are history, there's another 45 days right
> there.
It's unclear to which date that 45 day lead time is measured relative.
The ad deadline for QST is something like 45 days prior to the date of
issue so it makes sense if that was the editorial deadline as well.
For some time contest results articles have been published to the Web
some 4 to 6 weeks prior to their date of issue i.e. results appearing in
September QST are on the Web site now.
So it's likely that most of the delay that could have been attributed to
that 45 day lead has already been history for a while.
Other than an understandable reluctance to freeze changes well in
advance of the deadline for going to production, was there ever anything
standing in the way of early release of results?
73,
Mike K1MK
Michael Keane K1MK
k1mk@arrl.net
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>From tavan at tibco.com Fri Jul 26 14:00:17 2002
From: tavan@tibco.com (Rick Tavan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <3D41AA51.2060701@tibco.com>
Bravo, Trey! Great proposal. Keep working with CQ and ARRL to accelerate
both online and paper publication. In business there is a truism that
the value of an incentive is inversely proportional to the time between
the period of performance and the reward. Faster publication will incent
the contesting community to do more, more often, and that will be good
for the sport.
/Rick N6XI
Trey Garlough wrote:
>Many years ago I had a dream that we would be able to operate contests
>and then see the final results immediately after the events were over.
>This will not be achievable if we rely on QST as a delivery mechanism.
>...
>If we eliminate #1 by publishing on the web and cut #2 from 30 to 15
>days, then I believe we can *tranquilly* release the complete final
>results of Sweepstakes within 30 days of the contest. ... Why wait until June
>to read the magazine when you can
>see the results on the web in December?
>
--
Richard M. Tavan
TIBCO Software Inc.
3307 Hillview Drive
Palo Alto, CA 94304-1213
tavan@tibco.com
n6xi@arrl.net
650-846-5214 Office
408-896-0476 Cell
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 26 19:08:42 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
In-Reply-To: <02e001c234e3$0442c360$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIEMCDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
> In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> Tell me if
> I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the contest
> instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
>
>
No, it's not good enough.
I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a tad
more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now have,
15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves most of
that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal and
then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
Gary W2CS
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Fri Jul 26 17:09:30 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDEEEODLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Message-ID: <00de01c234f1$1d8ae600$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
>Maybe to encourage people to join the ARRL? Seems a reasonable goal since
>they are sponsoring the event...
A more reasonable goal would be to encourage more participation in contests.
I doubt if this is accomplished by penalizing non-ARRL entries. In some
contest I understand that now the DX logs account for 50% of the logs - many
or most of which are not the contestants are not ARRL members. (see
http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf ). They
are penalized by a 30 day policy that with holds results --- now really does
this inequity increase membership or encourage greater participation?
I kind doubt it. On the other hand I have heard a rumor that this inequity
is likely to disappear with the movement of line scores to the web. This
would be great news for the international contest community!
Now we wait and see :-)
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 26 16:27:54 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <VA.00000008.00f44c39@gw3njw>
References: <5.1.0.14.1.20020725074143.00a7c830@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020726152010.00af88f0@pop3.eskimo.com>
There is no continental breakdown as yet but I don't know why
that couldn't be added. I'm sure the data is there. (Now's the
time to get what we want.)
For now, go into Section, select NON-USA (It's not obvious it's there
the first time) - then sort by section. You will have a country by
country breakdown. I recommend the Tab or Comma delimited download
(it's quick) so you can review all the results without paging.
73
dink
At 08:16 PM 7/26/2002 +0000, Clive Whelan wrote:
> However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
> going on-line in three short words.
>
>
> I like 'em.
>
Erm, am I being dense here, is there a way to separate the scores by
continent as there was in QST? That is invaluable.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
Contest Cambria-http://www.gw7x.org
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>From K7LXC at aol.com Fri Jul 26 19:44:20 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Vertical Advice Needed
Message-ID: <91.2088e979.2a732ac4@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/26/02 11:35:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
pschipelliti@att.net writes:
> If you could put up either antenna, would you restore
> the GAP or the Butternut? I would really like to
> improve my 80 meter tx/rx so that may influence my
> choice.
>
> If you have knowledge or experience concerning these
> antennas, which would you install?
We have published an HF vertical on-the-air comparison report - it's
available from <A HREF="http://www.championradio.com";>www.championradio.com
</A> and includes both of the above antennas.
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
Champion Radio Products
>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Sat Jul 27 00:30:44 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20020725074143.00a7c830@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <VA.00000009.0013eed6@gw3njw>
> However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
> going on-line in three short words.
>
>
> I like 'em.
>
Erm, am I being dense here, is there a way to separate the scores by
continent as there was in QST? That is invaluable.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
Contest Cambria-http://www.gw7x.org
>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Sat Jul 27 01:04:56 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20020726152010.00af88f0@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <VA.0000000b.00333533@gw3njw>
> For now, go into Section, select NON-USA (It's not obvious it's there
> the first time) - then sort by section
>
Thanks, that's summat. Didn't even know there was a "NON-USA" section!
On my Cabrillo I have to put "DX" as a section, perhaps I can try that
too.
However, and I hope the league have the gains up, the Web version can
only be of real value if it can be broken down into continents. We have
a saying " don't throw the baby out with the bath water" ( perhaps you
do too; not sure) and this seems apposite to the current situation.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
Contest Cambria-http://www.gw7x.org
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Sat Jul 27 01:04:50 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores
References: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIEMCDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <3D41E3A2.1D554FE5@directvinternet.com>
Something funny about this message. How can W2CS write both, which are
direct opposites of each other?
Assumming someone quoted someone incorrectly, I don't like the use of
the word "force" in regard to anyone. We've improved getting the final
results by 4 to 6 months. Why don't we get a little more input on how
long it takes remote DX stations to get their logs in?
Old saying, "In any change, make haste slowly"
73
Ed
Gary Ferdinand W2CS wrote:
>
> > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > Tell me if
> > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the contest
> > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> >
> >
>
> No, it's not good enough.
>
> I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a tad
> more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now have,
> 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves most of
> that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
>
> You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
> When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal and
> then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
>
> I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
>
> Gary W2CS
>From slazar19 at sgi.net Fri Jul 26 21:36:21 2002
From: slazar19@sgi.net (Spencer Lazar)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Good Grief
In-Reply-To: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDEEEODLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
References: <014c01c234b5$f3d3bca0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20020726203621.0083f700@mail.stargate.net>
Good Grief, two posting from K5ZD on the reflector within in a week,
what's this world coming to?
Randy, you must have too much time on your hands!
I suppose when real broad band gets here, computers will look
like radios and we will be contesting, except in the setups
we will selecting antennas, locations ect. ect. ect and most
importantly a level playing field. WRTC will be a dinosaur
of the past.
One thing I would like to see in contests is a class for vintage
radios, seperate tx/rx (vacuum tubes), knife switches and wire
antennas, computerless operating and the clacking of dowkey 110
vac relays with all the buzzing.
Spike W9XR
At 08:10 PM 7/26/02 -0000, you wrote:
>You said:
>> I have never understood the logic of encouraging everyone to enter
>contests and then
>> penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30 day waiting period.
>
>Maybe to encourage people to join the ARRL? Seems a reasonable goal since
>they are sponsoring the event...
>
>Randy, K5ZD
>From k2av at contesting.com Fri Jul 26 21:36:45 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
References: <4.2.0.58.20020726143124.009b82a0@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <006001c23505$af8801f0$0500a8c0@swift>
I understand the thought, but does it have a multiplier against it in
the significant range.
Do you know of ANY international business that uses real post to move
INFORMATION around. An international business that can't move it's
information electronically is very quickly a bankrupt business. If I
wanted to get a floppy to a friend in EU, I would email it.
GOODS move by post, not INFORMATION, not any more.
Think about it. Here's a guy that has a pc and a logging program
likely. Costs him a quid or worse to physically mail a floppy to the
US, or he can take the floppy to a friend's house, and email the file,
for free.
Stories are everywhere about how having the internet has allowed
out-back businesses to sell to the world. Where are these people you
are worried about precluding? Let them exercise some initiative and
creativity.
A big gun can't get his log right. And it's the log checker's
responsibility to fix it? And the fact it's a big gun makes his gorked
log more worthy than a little guy's?
If a robot bounces said gorked log, the big gun knows right away.
Cabrillo is new, but everybody is learning it. And the robot is
democratic. It bounces all gorked logs.
The first time that a big gun doesn't get the log in on time, and all
his operators lose their spot in the standings, will be the LAST time
the big gun doesn't get his log in on time. Boss man will never hear
the end of it. (It may be W3LPL in the listings, but the score belongs
to the TROOPS.)
People can handle it.
LETS MOVE ON.
73,
Guy, K2AV
----- Original Message -----
From: "David A. Pruett" <k8cc@comcast.net>
To: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>;
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
> Speaking as another logchecker, I agree totally with the comments
made by
> K4JRB. If we are going to have fifteen day log deadlines and thirty
days
> for results, then we're going to have to live with the following
realities:
>
> 1. Not enough time to guarantee arrival for overseas logs coming by
postal
> mail, whether on paper or floppy disk. I think that we here in
America
> take e-mail for granted and I for one am not willing to preclude
entries
> from stations who for whatever reason cannot electronically submit.
>
> 2. The entrant will have to be responsible for submitting a log in
the
> correct format. This is not a minor problem - in the 2001 ARRL 10M
> Contest, 200 of the 2100+ electronic logs had errors as submitted
which
> would have precluded them being included in the results, and many of
these
> were big guns. Most of these are cockpit errors, which tell me that
the
> fast majority of entrants never look at their log files before
mailing them
> in. In the case of the 10M contest, fixing these problem logs
(manual
> editing, requesting new logs) took over 30 man-hours. With the
compressed
> timetables being proposed, anything more than minor corrections will
go
> into the bit bucket.
>
> As Trey pointed out, the web site results could be updated for late
logs
> and corrections. However, if we allow for this what point is there
to
> publishing results after 30 days when the standings might change
after 40
> days? Furthermore, when is the cutoff to issue awards?
>
> My point here is that there is more to this that simply decided to
compress
> the timeframe. If you want fast, recognize that there will be more
> responsibility on you, the entrant if you want to be sure to make
the results.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave/K8CC
>
>
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>From k1ir at designet.com Fri Jul 26 21:42:57 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 15 days is not enough time
Message-ID: <wix08z5phfkjln4.260720022042@designet-jsi>
I agree that making time-to-published-results as short as possible is a great
goal. But, two weeks is too tight a restriction in too many circumstances.
DXpedition groups commonly spend the week following the contest on vacation
without internet access, leaving only one more weekend to get it done. Multi's
often have technical problems that make assembling the final log a challenge.
And, log submission by non-English speaking DX participants and novices who are
unfamiliar with contest software is not trivial. And there are those of us who
want to decompress and have nothing to do with the radio or the log for a while
after a big effort. So, I think a month is pretty reasonable.
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From n2mg at eham.net Fri Jul 26 22:52:59 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
References: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDEEEODLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
<00de01c234f1$1d8ae600$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <003801c23510$56cb2d20$3201a8c0@mikehome>
VE5ZX wrote:
> >Maybe to encourage people to join the ARRL? Seems a reasonable goal
since
> >they are sponsoring the event...
>
> A more reasonable goal would be to encourage more participation in
contests.
I don't think this is what makes a "membership" organization tick. ARRL
sponsors the contests precisely TO attract membership. They don't have
members so they can sponsor contests. In fact, there are plenty at HQ who
would rather not have contests at all.
> I doubt if this is accomplished by penalizing non-ARRL entries.
Since we're talking about lemonade, I'd say they don't penalize non-member
entries, but rather, they reward member entries.
I'm sure it's no small thorn in the ARRL's side that non-members expect to
be treated with the same respect that members are. Can't really fault the
League for that. And I really don't fault non-USA folks for not joining the
ARRL but I do fault them for expecting equal treatment (maybe that's the
American in me talking?). Sure, ARRL "needs" as many DX ops as possible to
operate in their contests in order to make the contests attractive enough
that folks will have fun - fun which will inspire some of these same folks
to become members. If they ever conclude that fun-contests does not equate
to new-members, bye-bye (ARRL sponsorship of) contests.
73 Mike N2MG
>From k1mk at arrl.net Fri Jul 26 23:41:57 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade
In-Reply-To: <20020726115252.12010.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.critic
alpath.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020726220631.0276d8e0@mail.peoplepc.com>
At 02:52 PM 7/26/02, Mike Gilmer - N2MG wrote:
>Suggesting the 30-to-15 day change only makes sense in
>the aftermath of the recent reduction in publishing
>leadtime enabled by the removal of line scores from
>QST. Make this suggestion 6 months ago, and 15 days
>would be virtually meaningless. Today, not so.
Nine months ago one could have made the suggestion that the final SS scores
be prepared and ready to go onto the Web site in mid-January rather than
waiting until mid-April when the results article was going to be needed by
the printer.
In that context a 30-to-15 day change would also have made sense. And it
would have raised the same issues now being brought up in regards to
accommodating paper logs and disks arriving via the mail and the loss of
schedule margin for dealing with anomalies.
73,
Mike K1MK
Michael Keane, K1MK
k1mk@alum.mit.edu
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 26 23:44:28 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207270224.g6R2O1hF032150@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <05da01c23517$89c05b40$03010a0a@office1>
Sorry Gary, but you and I will disagree with this one for now.
Considering the outcry last year when (under the dubious excuse of safety of
the mail) CQ Magazine forced all of us to enter only by electronic means, to
now propose to "force" contest entrants to rush in their logs and then
"force" the contest committee to rush compilation in another 2 weeks strikes
me as being too hasty.
Are we all so impatient that reducing the turn-around time between contest &
results from 6-8 months for the ARRL, and 8-10 months for CQ (just to pick
on two) to under 2 months isn't enough, but we're going to try to force-feed
it to 6 or even 4 weeks?
Remember, we're not dealing with a "closed" environment like the WRTC
competitions, where you have a relative small number of stations (50 or
less) competing for 24 hours. Compiling those results in a few hours is a
piece of cake. We're talking about 48 hour contests that literally involve
thousands, if not tens of thousands, of amateurs -- many of whom never have
or will send in logs, which always leave question marks about "uniques" and
"busted calls" and other potential problems to sort out.
Further, you must remember that in much of the world outside of North
America and Europe, Internet access is not as accessible nor as cheap as it
is here. I would not be at all surprised to learn that there are many
active contesters who have a computer in the shack, yet prefer to mail their
results in via a disk for whatever reasons.
I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
positive way to encourage more potential contesters. I think if we rise the
bar too high, we make the goal too difficult, it will do the exact opposite
by discouraging potential contesters and some of the active and less active
ones out there.
I also would question the ability to compile scores, even with automation,
in a day or two. Pending data to prove that one way or another, that
strikes me as being more than a bit optimistic. Can someone on one of the
major contest committees comment on whether or not automation makes one or
two days practical?
I am not saying that Trey's proposed 15 day deadline is a bad idea. But I
don't think we're quite ready for it yet. One thing at a time.
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
> In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> Tell me if
> I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the contest
> instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
>
>
No, it's not good enough.
I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a tad
more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now have,
15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves most of
that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal and
then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
Gary W2CS
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>From W1HIJCW at aol.com Sat Jul 27 00:16:02 2002
From: W1HIJCW@aol.com (W1HIJCW@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Vertical Advice Needed
Message-ID: <19b.5ed2d32.2a736a72@aol.com>
Dear Peter,
I don't have any experience with the GAP, but do have extensive experience
with the HF6V, the HF9V and the HF2V. I've installed and tuned probably 6 or
8 HF9's for various people, a few HF6's and at least 3 HF2's that I can
remember.
Recently when I moved, I had to make a choice about a multiband antenna that
would be a temporary solution until a tower, etc. could be installed. I chose
the HF6V to be roof mounted with the base at about 28 feet AGL. Why?
My experience was that with the Butternut antennas, I had the option of
optimizing the tuning on a band by band basis and found very little
interaction between bands that I could not eliminate. For example, my current
installation has a total of 5 radials. One is a non-resonant piece (50 feet
long) of 3 inch wide and 3 mil thick copper foil which runs for some 42 feet
along the ridge pole of the house, it then makes a right angle turn to go
down the roof for the remaining 8 feet. The other radials were "rough cut" to
be approximate 1/4 wavelengths on 40, 30, 20, and 10 meters. They are
arranged symmetrically around the base of the antenna.
The result, after tuning and adjusting the coils at the base of the HF6 was
that on all bands (except the extreme end of 10 meters) the SWR (measured at
the end of the series matching transformer with an MFJ 269, and by the SWR
meter in my FT1000D) was less than 2 to 1 and in most cases was less than 1.5
to 1. That allows me to run the setup without using the tuner in the "D" (or
in my FT990 for that matter).
Setup and tuning time once the antenna was assembled was less than 2 hours.
The antenna is mounted to a wooden chimney with Rat Shack wall mounts.
The HF6 and 9 do have a weak point which is the connection between the two
ends of the series matching transformer and the feedline and antenna
respectively. Butternut was kind enough to replace mine at no cost, but I
would suggest that you replace the PL259 on one end and the "stacons" or
other connectors on the other.
BTW, I bought an HF2V and took it with me to French Polynesia to use during
the 2001 CQ WPX CW contest. It was mounted directly in the lagoon in about 18
inches of water and fed with 150 feet of RG8X (1/3 of which laid in the water
for 10 days). Never have I had an antenna perform so well on 80 and 40.
Similarly, we took an HF2V to Puerto Rico for the recent effort in Field Day
as NP4A. It was beach mounted and had two elevated radials for 80 meters.
Similar results (although not as good as mounting in the water!) :>)
Hope these comments help a bit. As usual YMMV.
73 es GL de Bill, W1HIJ/6
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>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 27 01:49:41 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
In-Reply-To: <05da01c23517$89c05b40$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIEMHDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Ron, we agree on one point. We disagree with each other -HI. Although I
like the "for now" part :-) To your points:
1. Outcry: People hate change. We live with it and move on. This is no
different.
2. Yup, I'm that impatient. The technology exists. We should set a good
goal.
3. Uniques: Yup. There will always be question marks. Do the best we can.
4. Rest of world: I don't think it's the problem you and a few others
have voiced. I know of several stations that are rare that are club
stations. Internet access is not a problem. We're not always talking about
individual stations in some primitive, isolated area. Those are more likely
DXpeditions and my cruise ship analogy applies.
5. Encouraging others: I think "immediate" results-reporting provides
substantial encouragement. It's the immediate feedback or reward that
others have more lucidly described than I to which I refer. I agree with
those sentiments.
Good discussion, this. Whether it's 4 weeks, 6 or 8, in the end it's a
great improvement. I think we should do what we can to aim for 4 weeks with
a 15 day turn-in requirement, as Trey proposed. If we end up having to
delay it a bit with a contest or two for good reason, I doubt you'd hear
many complaints! (Hmm, well not from me anyway.)
Bedtime. 73 all.
Gary W2CS
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ron Notarius WN3VAW
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 10:44 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
> scores decision)
>
>
> Sorry Gary, but you and I will disagree with this one for now.
>
> Considering the outcry last year when (under the dubious excuse
> of safety of
> the mail) CQ Magazine forced all of us to enter only by
> electronic means, to
> now propose to "force" contest entrants to rush in their logs and then
> "force" the contest committee to rush compilation in another 2
> weeks strikes
> me as being too hasty.
>
> Are we all so impatient that reducing the turn-around time
> between contest &
> results from 6-8 months for the ARRL, and 8-10 months for CQ (just to pick
> on two) to under 2 months isn't enough, but we're going to try to
> force-feed
> it to 6 or even 4 weeks?
>
> Remember, we're not dealing with a "closed" environment like the WRTC
> competitions, where you have a relative small number of stations (50 or
> less) competing for 24 hours. Compiling those results in a few hours is a
> piece of cake. We're talking about 48 hour contests that
> literally involve
> thousands, if not tens of thousands, of amateurs -- many of whom
> never have
> or will send in logs, which always leave question marks about
> "uniques" and
> "busted calls" and other potential problems to sort out.
>
> Further, you must remember that in much of the world outside of North
> America and Europe, Internet access is not as accessible nor as
> cheap as it
> is here. I would not be at all surprised to learn that there are many
> active contesters who have a computer in the shack, yet prefer to
> mail their
> results in via a disk for whatever reasons.
>
> I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
> positive way to encourage more potential contesters. I think if
> we rise the
> bar too high, we make the goal too difficult, it will do the
> exact opposite
> by discouraging potential contesters and some of the active and
> less active
> ones out there.
>
> I also would question the ability to compile scores, even with automation,
> in a day or two. Pending data to prove that one way or another, that
> strikes me as being more than a bit optimistic. Can someone on one of the
> major contest committees comment on whether or not automation makes one or
> two days practical?
>
> I am not saying that Trey's proposed 15 day deadline is a bad idea. But I
> don't think we're quite ready for it yet. One thing at a time.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the
> hypocrisies of our
> time?" -- Howard Beale
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
> decision)
>
> > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > Tell me if
> > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after
> the contest
> > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> >
> >
>
> No, it's not good enough.
>
> I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all
> to be a tad
> more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation
> we now have,
> 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It
> leaves most of
> that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
>
> You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
> When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely
> difficult goal and
> then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
>
> I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
>
> Gary W2CS
>
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>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Sat Jul 27 02:05:11 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Recruiting 101
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207270041390.22765-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
I'm now involved with recruiting members for next weekend's NAQP CW
contest. I'm having some success recently recruiting people to operate
the CW Sprint and NAQP contests, and thought I might pass on some hints in
hopes that other clubs will also have success recruiting members for
contests.
1) Announce your intentions here on CQ-Contest and club mail reflectors.
Normally I find this to be mildly successful. Be sure to mention that you
are not just looking for serious operators... that you are fielding teams
of part-timer ops too.
2) The best technique I have found is contacting each person directly by
e-mail personally. I follow the same method as is #1 and normally put in
some kind of note about us trying to show up some other club or something
else that we can all get our heads around.
3) Finding Members. I first look at old results for the contest in
question. Then I move to other contests. For instance, I've had really
good luck this time recruiting guys that operate the ARRL 160 and 10 meter
contests as well as CW SS. The results are on the web, and almost
everyone has an email address that can easily be had on eHam.net or
QRZ.com. These are also contests that are more domestic in nature, which
is right up the alley of the NAQP.
4) Finding More Members. Team work! I ask everyone on our teams to
recruit just one other person to be a member of the teams. This has
worked very well in the past, as there is no way I can know every
potential operator in the 4th call area.
5) Organization. I'm now keeping everyone's callsign, name, etc, in a
database so I can quickly refer to it the next running of the contest.
6) Post cards. Some of the Sprint regulars have recently taken up writing
potential operators post cards in an effort to remind them of a contest.
I personally find email with the expressed intent of joining a team is
more effective.
7) Team placement competition. Back in the early 80s there was this
phenom called the Midwest Popguns organzied by Joe (W8LNO) and Tom
(N0SS) for the CW Sprint. Team placement was based on your finish in the
prior contest. The Popguns fieleded several teams, and I recall being
highly motivated to move from team last to team next. We are just
starting with this here in W4 for next month's Sprint.
So far I have 22 guys signed up for next weekend. The TCG and FCG are
also fielding at least 2 teams each. I figure we'll have more than 50
guys from W4 active to some degree or another! Now think how much fun the
contest would be if this could be nearly duplicated across 10 call areas!
73
Bill, W4AN
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 27 02:06:20 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores
In-Reply-To: <3D41E3A2.1D554FE5@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFAEMIDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Ed,
I think you're attributing the first part of your quoted text to me, which
is incorrect. That was the text that my posting was in reference to. Note
that first paragraph as an extra set of ">" symbols in front of it.
It is common practice on the internet to include a piece of the posting to
which you're replying so that readers of your reply have a context. It
would appear, Ed, that you have misinterpreted this context material, to
which I was replying, as my own text.
Rather, I was writing in rebuttal.
As to making haste slowly in any change...gosh, that saying must be
pre-high-tech age. I can't imagine any company with serious competition in
today's markets having such a philosophy; they'd be out of business with
much haste. My mindset is influenced by that, I'm afraid. So I tend to try
to accomplish a difficult goal, risking some degree of failure, rather than
achieve a comfortable goal, and risk achieving mediocrity, instead. A
matter of perspective.
An old saying: "He who hesitates is lost."
So much for ancient pithy proverbs :)
73,
Gary W2CS
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of K4SB
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 8:05 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores
>
>
> Something funny about this message. How can W2CS write both, which are
> direct opposites of each other?
>
> Assumming someone quoted someone incorrectly, I don't like the use of
> the word "force" in regard to anyone. We've improved getting the final
> results by 4 to 6 months. Why don't we get a little more input on how
> long it takes remote DX stations to get their logs in?
>
> Old saying, "In any change, make haste slowly"
>
> 73
> Ed
>
> Gary Ferdinand W2CS wrote:
> >
> > > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to
> assemble and
> > > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > > Tell me if
> > > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months
> after the contest
> > > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > No, it's not good enough.
> >
> > I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> > entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all
> to be a tad
> > more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation
> we now have,
> > 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> > that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It
> leaves most of
> > that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
> >
> > You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on
> it later.
> > When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely
> difficult goal and
> > then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
> >
> > I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
> >
> > Gary W2CS
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>From kl7y at alaska.net Sat Jul 27 07:33:28 2002
From: kl7y@alaska.net (Dan Robbins)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 15 days too short
Message-ID: <3D4230A8.37A901E3@alaska.net>
I'm glad that so many think 15 days is long enough, but we don't need a
duration that covers the requirements of most of the contesters, we need
one that covers ALL contesters. I've had to ask for two extensions in
the last several years and that's with existing 30 day log submission
deadlines. It wasn't too long ago I helped a first time contest entrant
unscramble a log - just in time to beat the 30 day deadline. 30 days is
just fine, leave it alone.
Dan KL7Y
>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 27 01:27:49 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
References: <200207270224.g6R2O1hF032150@contesting.com>
<05da01c23517$89c05b40$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <001d01c2353f$1f5b8ae0$7c6f7e42@sbcglobal.net>
I guess I agree with Ron:
Even if we can maybe hasten the time to the final results, What's the Big
Rush? Its worked so well for so many years, why do we now think it's
broken?
Just because many things in our lives CAN and DO go faster, does everything
have to?
For many years, the speed limit was 55 MPH. Then they cranked it back up to
65, and in some places even 70. Now, if you're not doing at least 80 on the
91 Freeway, hey buddy, get out of the way. Does that make our lives
necessarily "better"?
I recall when I was thrilled with my first computer, humming along at a nice
16 MHz. Now I'm wondering if my new 1.3 GHz notebook is fast enough? Give
me a break, please..........
Everything today is about speed, speed, speed. Even when driving in Italy
or Germany, do I take a relaxed tour @ 100 km/hour so I might actually SEE
some of the beautiful countryside? Nah, I've got to try and COMPETE with
the locals, and crank it up to 200 km/hr (at least). Is my quality of life
better by doing so? I think not. It's just dumb, dumb, dumb.
Now we're led to believe, we can't live without INSTANTANEOUS GRATIFICATION
on our contest victory?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But it's very thoughtful of The Kid (as
Trey is known around this household) to worry that we old guys may not be
around long enough for the final results.
The meaningfulness of the answer, for me, far exceeds the quest for
expediency, in this case.
Vy 73
Jim Neiger
N6TJ
>
> Considering the outcry last year when (under the dubious excuse of safety
of
> the mail) CQ Magazine forced all of us to enter only by electronic means,
to
> now propose to "force" contest entrants to rush in their logs and then
> "force" the contest committee to rush compilation in another 2 weeks
strikes
> me as being too hasty.
>
> Are we all so impatient that reducing the turn-around time between contest
&
> results from 6-8 months for the ARRL, and 8-10 months for CQ (just to pick
> on two) to under 2 months isn't enough, but we're going to try to
force-feed
> it to 6 or even 4 weeks?
>
> Remember, we're not dealing with a "closed" environment like the WRTC
> competitions, where you have a relative small number of stations (50 or
> less) competing for 24 hours. Compiling those results in a few hours is a
> piece of cake. We're talking about 48 hour contests that literally
involve
> thousands, if not tens of thousands, of amateurs -- many of whom never
have
> or will send in logs, which always leave question marks about "uniques"
and
> "busted calls" and other potential problems to sort out.
>
> Further, you must remember that in much of the world outside of North
> America and Europe, Internet access is not as accessible nor as cheap as
it
> is here. I would not be at all surprised to learn that there are many
> active contesters who have a computer in the shack, yet prefer to mail
their
> results in via a disk for whatever reasons.
>
> I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
> positive way to encourage more potential contesters. I think if we rise
the
> bar too high, we make the goal too difficult, it will do the exact
opposite
> by discouraging potential contesters and some of the active and less
active
> ones out there.
>
> I also would question the ability to compile scores, even with automation,
> in a day or two. Pending data to prove that one way or another, that
> strikes me as being more than a bit optimistic. Can someone on one of the
> major contest committees comment on whether or not automation makes one or
> two days practical?
>
> I am not saying that Trey's proposed 15 day deadline is a bad idea. But I
> don't think we're quite ready for it yet. One thing at a time.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of
our
> time?" -- Howard Beale
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
> decision)
>
> > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > Tell me if
> > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the
contest
> > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> >
> >
>
> No, it's not good enough.
>
> I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a
tad
> more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now
have,
> 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves most
of
> that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
>
> You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
> When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal
and
> then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
>
> I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
>
> Gary W2CS
>
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>From g4buo at compuserve.com Sat Jul 27 07:01:00 2002
From: g4buo@compuserve.com (Dave Lawley)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Log Checking
Message-ID: <200207270601_MC3-1-848-E994@compuserve.com>
This sort of statement worries me:
>I just finished the SSB logs except for three problem logs and it took a
> full two weeks working several hours a day. With 100% cabrillo I could
have
> checked the logs in a day and 70% of that is set up!. I now face a month
of
> grinding through the CW logs. Get the log in proper format and the
programs
> will do the rest!<
My understanding was that, for CQWW contests at least, the
computer does NOT automatically apply any penalties. It
produces a list of potential errors and these are reviewed
by real people who decide whether they really are errors
and whether a penalty should apply. Have things changed,
such that the computer now automatically applies the penalty?
If not, I can't see how the logs can be checked in a day. Sure,
the results for WRTC were produced in a day but there were
only 52 entries, all (presumably) conforming to the specified
log format, and a team led by K1ZZ/G3SXW stayed up all
night manually reviewing the potential errors identified by
the computer log checking process.
Dave G4BUO
>From n2mg at eham.net Sat Jul 27 08:45:05 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020726220631.0276d8e0@mail.peoplepc.com>
Message-ID: <002f01c23563$0d65b940$3201a8c0@mikehome>
K1MK wrote:
> Nine months ago one could have made the suggestion that the final SS
scores
> be prepared and ready to go onto the Web site in mid-January rather than
> waiting until mid-April when the results article was going to be needed by
> the printer.
Sure, technically it seems possible, but the web was considered as a
secondary vehicle for the publication of scores. This is clearly no longer
the case. (Also, I can *imagine* some stir caused by publishing the scores
on the web - and the "members only" or not issue - that much earlier than in
the magazine._
The ARRL moves naturally slowly. There are a lot of folks' opinions to
gather into a consensus (of sorts). Regardless of all the evil conspiracy
theories, I'll bet it took a lot of gnashing of teeth to dump the line
scores. (Hell, this reflector caused some that!)
The door is open now. Personally I'd like to see rather comprehensive
changes implemented. Get it all over at once. Otherwise every year one
would have to read the rules (not a bad idea actually) to see what the dang
League has changed with the submission criteria again.
1) no line scores in QST
2) forced Cabrillo
3) short deadline
4) results out in December
OK..."forced Cabrillo" bothers me somewhat...but NOT for SS (I think those
Carib guys *should* sweat a little! ;-) )
Even so, I feel mandatory Cabrillo looms. If there's something we in the US
can offer to our alleged "poor overseas bretheren with no email access" in
terms of a process to help them out, now might be the time...
Mike N2MG
>From k1ir at designet.com Sat Jul 27 09:26:37 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
Message-ID: <t83ad26ssmyfq07.270720020826@designet-jsi>
WN3VAW said:
>I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
positive way to encourage more potential contesters.<
Thank heaven somebody finally said something a little bit strategic! This is
the first hint of forward thinking that I've heard in this entire conversation.
Talking about a 15 day change in the results schedule seems to be an empty
effort when the implications of this change are much more far-reaching.
Over the past six months, about thirty-five of us got together and contributed
to a major proposal about ARRL contest coverage which was submitted to the ARRL
BoD just before their meeting. I didn't expect to get an official reaction from
HQ right away, but I did expect to hear some reaction and conversation about
the proposal here on the reflector.
Maybe it was too much trouble to click on one of the links in my previous
message:
PDF version: http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
or
HTML version: http://www.designet.com/k1ir/ContestCoverageProposal_071702.htm
So, I'll attach it here. Unfortunately, the formatting of the charts won't make
it through the reflector, so you'll have to look at one of the original
documents if you are interested in those.
Honestly, I am quite disappointed. I was really hoping that you'd take a look
at the hard work done by your peers and engage the subject fully.
Here are a few points and questions to get you thinking:
1. The group concluded that contest coverage in QST is really lacking, and that
the pages remaining after line scores are removed should be used much more
creatively. Ideas have been presented. Which do you like/hate?
2. While the web is now being used to effectively present contest results,
there is still a need for a more permanent record and for hardcopy. How do we
do both?
3. The web is much more appropriate for conveying the contesting "experience."
We can do it with sound, graphics and video. It can be stored. It can be live.
How can we get this done?
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
*********** Forwarded Proposal ***********
Contest Coverage Working Group
Guidelines and Proposals
2 July 2002
INTRODUCTION
Lead Author ? Jim Idelson, K1IR
Approach
The Working Group has developed three interrelated proposals and this overview
document, which addresses the process and integrates the component proposals.
The proposals are:
Proposal #1: General Guidelines for Allocating Material between Print and
Electronic Media
Proposal #2: New Ideas for Contest-Specific and General Contesting Material
Proposal #3: New Ideas for On-Line Contest-Specific Data
The goal of these proposals is to serve as a vehicle for defining broad-based
understandings of what is and is not desirable, as well as to present new ideas
for coverage. All three are intended to undergo continual revision as new ideas
are encountered.
The guidelines and proposals presented in this document are not intended to
address questions such as: the proper balance between contest and non-contest
content in any particular medium; what constitutes an adequate number of pages;
or how much contest related content is appropriate in a general readership
publication such as QST.
Background
In 2001, faced with the prospects of operating deficits for the next several
years, the ARRL Board's Administration & Finance Committee requested staff
identify areas of potential cost reduction. ARRL management's response included
a plan for publishing QST with fewer pages of editorial content per issue. One
element of this plan would eliminate contest line scores from QST, to be
replaced by Web-based line scores. News of this proposal immediately sparked a
series of reactions from the contesting community expressing concern that
contesting's presence in QST would be diminished to a damaging degree.
The strength and breadth of feeling in the contest community regarding the
proposed changes was reflected in the 18 January 2002 joint statement and
request of U.S. contest clubs addressed to the ARRL Board of Directors and
signed by the presidents of twelve ARRL-affiliated contest clubs. Following
through on the contest club presidents? proposal, concerned contesters from
across the U.S. and Canada have joined forces to form the ad hoc ARRL Contest
Coverage Working Group. This group is engaging the issues in a pragmatic and
constructive manner ? assisting the ARRL staff to find ways of utilizing the
limited number of QST pages allocated to reporting contest results in concert
with alternative electronic media to obtain the best possible distribution of
contest coverage.
New Technology, New Opportunities
QST, NCJ, CQ and the recently demised CQ-Contest magazines have long been the
primary outlets for contest reporting in the U.S. Due to limited print space,
the reporting is of necessity rather restricted and has converged on an
abbreviated format of summary, limited breakdowns, top scores, line scores, and
a small amount of background information on or from individual competitors.
Web pages and email-distributed newsletters, which have extremely low
distribution costs, have become new outlets for this material. Because of their
low cost, constraints on the volume of material have essentially been removed.
This allows expansion of many elements of contest coverage beyond what any
print medium could afford. In addition, electronic distribution generally is
much more timely than print, enabling multiple editions and frequent updates of
material. It is expected that the current levels of quality and quality control
for published material would be met or exceeded, regardless of media.
Electronic media can also go beyond print media in bringing new dimensions of
contest coverage and information to the audience. With database technology,
contest logs can be sorted and filtered to meet any imaginable data analysis
need. Using audio and video technologies, we can now convey more than basic
reports on contesting; we can truly convey the experience of contesting.
HIGH-LEVEL CONCERNS
A number of important points emerged from the discussion, and these points cut
across all forms of contest coverage. They are summarized below:
Visibility
One of the most commonly raised issues regarding a shift of line scores from
QST to the Web is the reduced visibility of the contesting community to the
broader amateur community, especially to casual participants and potential
newcomers. It is strongly felt that the acknowledgement from publishing scores
and calls, no matter how small the score, serves to attract and encourage
entry-level contesters to the sport.
Contesters at all levels have always been honored to see their call signs and
performance in the ?bright lights? of QST. With great pride, they like to refer
other hams to the magazine and show the magazine to their non-ham friends and
family. There are widely held concerns over the loss of such high-level
visibility should scores be moved to the Web.
Opportunities for Visibility:
Include contest results announcements in the general news section of
www.arrl.org with links to full coverage
Use visual cues (highlighted links, graphics, or pop-up windows) to entice
?surfers? to visit contest coverage
Capture information about those who visit contest sections of the Website and
solicit them with opportunities to see more coverage
Use the log submission mechanics to obtain email addresses to which results may
be sent automatically.
Continue to provide contest report articles in the ?traditional? style,
including line scores, via an electronic medium.
Connectivity
Recognizing that various print and electronic media will continue to exist
separately, and that there will not be a complete duplication of content in the
various media, every effort must be made to provide many references among the
different coverage vehicles. This implies many links in the electronic media,
and many references to Web and email from the print media. For example, QST
coverage of contests should push readers towards Web-based coverage and
describe the expanded coverage options available.
Opportunities for Connectivity:
Every printed article should contain numerous and clear references to relevant
electronic media.
Many active links between electronic media presentations should be introduced
and maintained.
Cross-references from print media to electronic should not be limited to QST.
All ARRL publications should cross-reference relevant electronic media.
Ease of Use
As electronic outlets for contest coverage are increasingly employed, it is
important to ensure that those who wish to view the content have an easy and
attractive way to navigate amongst the many types and sources of information
that will be available. The approach to Website navigation and use of email
will be an important part of the electronic media design.
Suggestions for Ease of Use:
Focus design on accessing all aspects of each contest from a single place ? a
contest home page for each contest. Include access to rules, announcements,
current and historical results, discussions, Soapbox, etc ? all from a single
home page.
Avoid grouping of information by ?type?. For example, listing Soapbox links for
all contests is not particularly useful, since few if any individual contesters
will be interested in all contests.
Beyond the Written Word
The real secret to a successful shift from printed media to the Web is in
taking advantage of the capabilities that are unique to electronic media. If
use of the Web is restricted to duplicating the same kinds of material that
would previously have been presented in magazines ? then the transition to
electronic media will not be as swift and powerful. Implementations using
electronic media to recreate and convey the excitement of the contesting
experience will make it impossible for this new approach to fail.
Opportunities for Going Beyond the Written Word:
Provide data in downloadable format wherever possible
Add audio and video to the types of information available
Include audio and video interviews with the winners and other entrants with
something of interest to contribute
Allow viewers to add data or audio/video to the available material
Accessibility
Access to electronic media distributed via the Internet is good and continues
to improve. Even so, Internet access remains far from universal. In 2000, the
U.S. Census Bureau reported that 51% of U.S. households had a computer and
41.5% of households had access to the Internet. Neither percentage depended
strongly on age group for adults in the range of 18?65 years old. The rates of
computer ownership and Internet access both increase sharply with greater
household income and higher levels of education.
Access to the broadband Internet connections, necessary for realizing the full
potential of powerful multi-media technologies such as video, is rapidly
improving as well. The FCC reports that 7.0% of U.S. households were subscribed
to high-speed Internet services as of July 2001, up from 4.7% in January 2001,
and 1.6% in July 2000.
Focusing specifically on the amateur community, a recent survey commissioned by
the ARRL concluded that 89% of its members had Internet access although only
51% of the ARRL membership had registered as users of the ARRL members-only Web
site by October 2001. The number of electronic versus the number of paper logs
received by both the ARRL Contest Branch and the CQWW Committee suggest that
the contesting community already is highly ?wired.?
Suggestions for Accessibility:
Print copies of unabridged contest announcements including the detailed rules
and ?traditional? contest report articles including line scores should be
available for those members who lack Internet access.
Content produced for electronic distribution should also be published on
high-density, archival quality media, e.g. CD-ROM and DVD.
Thinking Globally
Contesters outside of the U.S. constitute a sizeable fraction of today's
contesting community. Anyone holding to the narrow view that ARRL sponsored
contests are solely parochial affairs of interest to an exclusively U.S. (or
North American) audience is in error. Non-U.S. stations submitted 50% of the
logs received for the 2000 ARRL 10-Meter Contest; 55% of the logs for the 2001
ARRL International DX Contest; and 70% of the logs for the 2001 IARU HF World
Championships. In 2000, DX stations accounted for one-third of the 16,000
contest logs processed by the ARRL Contest Branch and one-third of the scores
printed in QST.
Clearly, active contesters exist in substantial numbers around the world yet
they represent a virtually untapped market distinct from the ARRL?s traditional
membership base. Like their U.S. counterparts, many international contesters
are enthusiastic and excited about the prospects for expanded and enhanced
contest coverage being discussed. And they share an interest in viewing such
coverage.
Historically, the costs of reaching a worldwide market using print have been
prohibitive, keeping demand to an absolute minimum. NCJ is not marketed outside
USA/Canada yet much of its content is relevant to contesters worldwide. The
very low distribution costs of electronic media now permit existing content and
expanded coverage to efficiently reach a global audience.
Suggestions for Connecting with A Global Audience:
The ARRL offer non-U.S. contesters access to the expanded and enhanced contest
coverage on the ARRL Web site; possibly in exchange for payment of an
appropriate fee.
Use e-mail addresses harvested from log submittals for the targeted marketing
of expanded contest coverage, NCJ, membership, etc.
Feature contests sponsored by sister IARU societies in reciprocity for similar
exposure given to ARRL contests.
Comb international sources for content. Acquire English language rights to the
best contest related content being produced worldwide.
Cultivate international distribution channels and develop foreign language
outlets for ARRL contest coverage.
Line Scores
At present, line scores are the largest individual component of contest
coverage, occupying half the pages of contest reports in QST. Faced with
falling page counts and shrinking publication budgets but growing
participation, we are forced to confront a nasty dilemma. Either continued
publication of line scores displaces all other aspects of contest coverage from
the pages of QST with contest reports being reduced to a listing of scores and
call signs. Or the contest related content that is best suited for distribution
to a broad audience remains in QST with line scores relocated to the Web.
The guidelines in Proposal #1 are intended to be used as an aide when
considering the optimal utilization of scarce resources. Several types of
content are judged by the Working Group as being better suited than line scores
for occupying a limited number of QST pages (see Table 1 in Proposal #1). If
the ARRL Board of Directors makes the determination to cut deeply into the
number of QST pages available for reporting contest results, an application of
these guidelines would lead
one to conclude that the least undesirable alternative is relocating line
scores to the Web. By using linkages and references, readership can be guided
to the electronic media where line scores would be published in full and
possibly even in expanded form, as the 2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes results
show.
PROPOSAL #1 ? Allocation of Coverage to Print and Electronic Media
Lead Author ? Ward Silver, NØAX
Contributing Authors ? Michael Keane, K1MK and Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Scope
This proposal addresses the general question of how to allocate the relative
proportions of contest coverage between print and electronic media. No
distinction is made between the different forms of either media (i.e. ?
magazine vs. newsletter or Web page vs. email). No attempt is made to specify
the details of coverage content or to rank the most valuable, most desirable or
most enjoyable content.
Purpose
The purpose is to develop a set of general guidelines to provide guidance to
publishers for developing and distributing contest coverage material. Also, it
may serve to encourage discussion about the development of new types and forms
of material.
Background
Currently, print media is the primary form for distributing contest information
and results to the amateur radio community. Electronic media, however, is
rapidly becoming an accepted norm for distributing this type of information due
to its cost advantages, timeliness and increasing public acceptance. The
question has become not if, but when and how much contest information should be
made available electronically.
In this rapidly changing environment, it is important that publishers and
readers have a good sense of each other?s needs. This document attempts to
provide information on the general types of contest coverage and the
suitability of distributing each type of content in print or electronic form.
Print media is discussed as either General or Specialty. General refers to
media dealing with the full spectrum of ham radio, such as QST. Specialty
refers to publications aimed at contesters such as NCJ.
Electronic media is discussed as either Push or Pull. Push refers to actively
distributed formats, in which information is delivered to the consumer at the
initiative of the publisher ? the publisher is the active party. Examples of
push media include newsletters (email or print), bulletins and broadcasts.
Pull refers to passive sources of information, in which information is accessed
or retrieved from the publisher at the initiative of the consumer ? the reader
is the active party. Examples of pull media include web pages, bulletin boards,
ftp sites, books, CD-ROMs and libraries.
Coverage
Contest announcements and results should be available in printed and digital
media. An announcement is any advance notice that provides information as the
time, rules, awards, etc., about a specific contest. The results include
information describing any aspect of the contest that is distributed after the
contest.
Table 1 shows the relative suitability of using each of these media to
distribute specific announcement and results content; i.e. ? Is the medium the
one best suited to distribute this type of information to the target audience?
The suitability of each content type is rated as high, limited or low. The
ratings attempt to account for all aspects of the medium including cost,
quality, readership, archival, timeliness, etc. The ratings are defined as
follows:
High ? the medium is well suited to both the information and the
target audience.
Limited ? the medium is not the best method for distribution of the
information to the target audience.
Low ? the medium is poorly suited to the information, the target
audience or both; distribution of the information via this medium may be
inefficient, untimely or costly
Table 1 ? General Allocation Guidelines
OMITTED DUE TO FORMATTING PROBLEMS
PROPOSAL #2 ? New Ideas for Contest-Specific and General Contesting Material
Lead Author ? Brian D. Smith W9IND
Contributing Authors ?Ward Silver NØAX, Gary Breed K9AY
Scope
This proposal discusses existing contest print coverage. New ideas for coverage
are presented, both for print and electronic media. Details of implementation
are not addressed, neither is the allocation of coverage between types of
media.
Purpose
The purpose of this proposal is to:
Assess and critique current contest coverage in the print media.
Suggest how to improve coverage in both print and electronic media.
Contribute new ideas for coverage in multiple media.
Background
The ARRL Staff responsible for publishing a QST having fewer pages per issue
has proposed to allocate the limited resources available for reporting contest
results in ways that are appropriate for a general-readership, monthly
magazine. This, they believe, would save money and create more space for
articles of greater general interest.
The following proposal deals mainly with the latter objective. As stated in
Point 5 of the ?Joint Statement and Request of U.S. Contest Clubs on the
Proposal to Eliminate Detailed Contest Results from QST,? the coalition of
ARRL-affiliated contest clubs intends to assist QST in ?making such coverage
more attractive and interesting to a much wider audience than has been the case
to date.?
In striving to attain this goal, the lead author has drawn from about a quarter
century of professional journalism experience as a magazine editor, newspaper
reporter and freelance writer. The approach of this proposal is neither complex
nor radical; it simply suggests journalistic techniques and angles
traditionally used in the creation of newspaper and magazine feature stories,
newswriting and sportswriting. These approaches are not unknown to QST, but
perhaps by utilizing them more often, the magazine would enhance its contest
coverage.
Critique of Existing Coverage
QST?s current coverage includes the calls and scores of every entrant, and in
this respect, its articles could not be more thorough for anyone seeking such
information. The lead-in text that precedes the contest results is often
concise, matter-of-fact and esoteric, and perhaps more interesting to hard-core
contesters than the average ham. As long as this is true, QST may find it
difficult to justify devoting so much space to contest coverage.
Possible Alternatives
QST could revamp the format of the coverage so that (1) the articles are more
interesting to non-contesters and (2) hams with little contesting experience
are encouraged to get in the game.
General Interest Coverage
One alternative is to make the coverage more like a ?game story? found on a
sports page. For instance, rather than covering a contest from the standpoint
of final scores (?Club ABC got 7.4 million points in the multi-multi category
to edge Club XYZ, which scored 7.2 million?) ? as is typically done in QST ?
the magazine could approach it from a ?you are there? angle: ?Club ABC?s
contest effort almost ended before it began. Only three hours before the start
of the ARRL DX Contest, a severe thunderstorm packing 70 mph winds sent their
tallest antenna tumbling and the entire club scrambling. But a nifty bit of
improvisation put the station back on the air only 12 minutes before midnight
in Greenwich ?,? etc. Stories like these would have universal appeal,
regardless of whether the average reader cared deeply about contesting.
How to round up such information? The contest page on the ARRL Web site already
has a Soapbox, in which contesters can post their impressions, complaints,
reminiscences, anecdotes, etc., regarding each contest. All that?s needed is to
set up a similar Web site and inform contestants that QST is looking for any
good stories from the contest. Or the magazine could invite them to e-mail this
information. The author of the story could then scan the contributed copy for
the best tales. Many quotes could be lifted directly from the posts or e-mails,
and further information could be gathered via follow-up e-mail, landline and/or
even an on-air sked.
New Approaches
Looking more closely at newspaper sports sections, we find further inspiration
and possibilities. We see that not everything on every page is a game story:
There are also feature stories, profiles, personal columns and ?pre-games?
(stories previewing important games and events ? for instance, ?The Los Angeles
Lakers may face their toughest challenge of the year when the Dallas Mavericks
come to town Friday ??). The same elements and techniques that sustain sports
pages across America could be employed in contesting coverage.
Feature stories, a broad category, might include topics such as ?How our club
prepares for a multi-multi event? ? everything from how to recruit and schedule
operators to what food and drink to keep in the fridge. There could be
discussions of contesting tips and techniques: ?What to do when a solar flare
zaps the HF bands in the middle of a contest.?
Profiles could run the gamut ? from the 88-year-old guy who organized the first
ARRL Whatever Contest to the club that?s won the last 10 CQWW multi-multi
titles.
Personal columns could also include a broad range of topics, from serious to
humorous (?WPX: For once in my life, I?m as rare as Mongolia? by WY9A ? or ?How
contesting enabled me to finally achieve DXCC?).
?Pre-games? would supplement the traditional pre-contest coverage, which
typically consists of a long list of rules and regulation. Such information is
valuable to veteran contesters, but complicated and potentially off-putting to
beginners. Naturally, no one wants to embarrass himself on the air, so many
hams who might enjoy contesting may instead decide to forgo the contest rather
than risk ridicule.
Attracting Newcomers
Contesters are often viewed by non-contesters as insular and cliquish (not to
mention pushy). Undoubtedly, some contesters are less than courteous in the
heat of the battle. But as every contester knows, great scores depend on great
participation. We need the newcomers ? as many as we can get. So how to make
them feel welcome?
QST and several Web sites publish information on upcoming contests, but the
rules may seem overly complex to the uninitiated. A better alternative might
involve creating what?s known in the journalism business as a sidebar. USA
Today is fond of sidebars ? read a story about Barry Bonds? current home run
total and you might also see a sidebar about ?Most home runs in April ?
all-time bests,? etc. Read any newspaper travel story and you?ll often find a
sidebar that summarizes the key information: ?Destination: Louisville,
Kentucky. Major tourist attractions: Located on the Ohio River, home of
Churchill Downs ?? etc.
It is this user-friendly format ? the sidebar, which would accompany the
?pre-game? write-up ? that would work best in attracting newcomers to
contesting. Instead of having to wade through a plethora of technical data, a
rookie contester could simply glance at the sidebar and learn instantly what
the contest was about and how to participate in it, even if he or she had only
a couple of hours to do so.
Here?s how it might work (?Announced DXpeditions? might lure non-contesting
DXers who are chasing DXCC and other awards):
Contest: ARRL International DX Contest
How to participate: Get on any of the HF bands except the WARC bands. If you?re
in the United States or Canada, you can?t work any station in either country ?
look for DX stations only. For DX stations, the same applies in reverse.
What to say: Give a signal report and your state (for Americans), province (for
Canadians) or power in watts (DX stations).
Announced DXpeditions: HKØHAM, San Andes Island, CT3QRP, Madeira Islands, etc.
Quirks: Split operation on 40 because DX stations are assigned to different
frequencies, etc.
Best reason to participate: You can attain DXCC in one weekend.
Relative challenge: Easy for all. (Note: An EME contest would obviously get a
different answer.)
Web links: http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2002/intldx.html
Records: Yet another way to increase interest in contesting is to stoke hams?
competitive fires. How to do that? Create a Web site that provides easy access
to every record in every major contest. A good reference for records would list
more than the ?top? result in a particular category. By publishing many
results near the top (e.g., top 10, or all of the past results within 10% of
the current high spot), competitors can try to sneak into the listing even
though conditions might not permit them to break an all-time record. An
excellent reference would contain links to more material: the actual log,
technical detail about the station which made the record, operator background,
etc.
This will give potential contest entrants a great many targets to shoot at ?
and might very well convince a casual contester to go at it for the full 48
hours. A ham who knows only the single-op, all-band record might say, ?Oh well,
no way am I going to beat that. So I?ll just do a few hours here and there.?
But what if W8HAM discovered that the CQWW 8-land single-op assisted record for
10 meters was tantalizingly low? That puts a different spin on things, doesn?t
it?
New Ideas for Coverage
Story Ideas: The final part of our proposal offers story ideas that (hopefully)
will interest a general audience. The following is a list of 20 potential
stories or sidebars that could be included with contest coverage. There are
obviously many other possibilities.
Trend stories ? ?20 percent of all contesting records were broken in the year
2000,? etc. A snapshot of where contesting is going.
A feature story about the op who holds more contest records than anyone alive.
The superstations: A guide to the greatest contest stations in America/the
world. Perhaps a sidebar on the tallest ham antennas in existence (used in
contesting).
The best contesting conditions in history. (Consider sunspots, weather, rare DX
stations competing, etc.) A nostalgia piece loaded with anecdotes about how
sweet it was.
You are there: A weekend with a championship contest team, from planning to
take-down.
The world?s best contest location(s). (Not stations ? this story would give
scientific reasons for why, say, a place next to salt water is better than a
spot in the middle of Midwest farm country. Or why a QTH on the East Coast is
ideal for working Europe on several bands (or whatever).
Wild weather. Hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards and other examples of nature?s
wrath ? and how their inopportune appearances ruined some major contests or
contesting efforts.
Profile of a ham who contests only with homebrew equipment. Or antique
equipment.
How to work your way up to the big leagues. What separates a good contester
from a rookie? How do you work several stations a minute? What are the most
common mistakes a newcomer makes?
How to organize a multi-multi effort. Everything from scheduling to feeding the
troops.
How to secure a great contesting QTH. A guide to the best locations, and
perhaps a list of specific sites that rent to hams and are already equipped
with antennas.
Big guns with little signals. A feature story about the best QRP contesters,
and what they do right.
The case for contesters. Why shouldn?t America?s biggest and best stations form
the backbone of the nation?s civil defense/emergency response efforts?
Point/counterpoint: Examining the age-old issue of contest QRM versus ?it?s
only one weekend?/?why don?t you ragchew on the WARC bands??
On a similar note, a story about the fact that some contesters have been cited
by the FCC for deliberate interference during a contest. Is this truly fair,
given the fact that some have said they couldn?t even hear the stations they
were supposedly QRMing?
A brief history of contesting. How did it all start?
Back when. Interviews with the oldest living contesters, and what contesting
was like in their day.
The lean years. How can you enjoy contesting when the sunspot count is at or
near zero? What?s the best strategy?
Which band is best? A guide to choosing the best band for a single-band
contesting effort. How do the sunspot count, the A index, the weather, etc.,
help determine the answer?
Overcomers. Not necessarily the best contesters, just the most inspiring ones,
such as a ham who suffered a stroke but nevertheless fires up the rig as part
of his therapy, etc.
Multimedia - Audio and Video
Electronic media creates entirely new opportunities for contest coverage. Not
only can traditional presentations be distributed at vastly lower expense and
with higher volume, they can include new types of information as well. Audio
and video recordings, as well as interactive graphics, can bring completely new
dimensions to contest coverage. The ARRL is already providing audio recordings
of QSOs in association with other Web coverage, for example.
Contest coverage would greatly benefit from the following types of multimedia
presentations:
Audio recordings of contest QSOs
Audio/video recordings of elements associated with the contest (pre-, during,
and post-contest)
Photo ?stills? and slide shows
Interviews with the experts
Live and still graphics generated by the ARRL and by entrants
Because the amount of effort to create this type of information is substantial,
it is strongly recommended that the ARRL provide a hosting facility for contest
entrants to contribute or post their own information as is currently done with
Soapbox. The size and duration of the postings could be limited to manage the
amount of data space required. The issue of reviewing each post for appropriate
content would also have to be addressed.
Because these new coverage elements are quite rich in content, they are also
likely to generate discussion and comment by the viewers. In order to focus the
discussion, it would be useful to create a posting service on the contest Web
site where individual comments could be posted for public comment.
Viewers will have widely divergent access bandwidths ranging from 28.8 kbps
dial-ups to broadband. If possible, server technology capable of sensing link
capability (or allowing the user to specify the link characteristics) should be
used for distribution of the larger elements. An alternative would be to
provide large and small versions of elements, where practical.
PROPOSAL #3 ? On-Line Distribution of Contest Data
Lead Author ? Ward Silver, NØAX
Contributing Authors ? Michael Keane, K1MK and Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Scope
This proposal describes the types of contest data that should be made publicly
available on-line. Detailed data formats are not covered.
Purpose
This document is a summary of ideas and suggestions contributed by individuals
in the contesting community. It is hoped it will serve to stimulate discussion
and produce more ideas.
Background
Until very recently, the only type of contest data available to contestants was
printed and PDF documents that tabulated the scores of class leaders, gave
selected entrant breakdowns, and provided line scores of all entrants. Contest
data in a digital form suitable for doing detailed post-contest analysis has
not been available. With the advent of the Web it is has become technically
easy and cost-effective to make contest data available to everyone in a format
suitable for analysis. The excellent 2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes reportage
clearly points the way to making improved data sets available.
We expect that detailed post-contest analysis will assist individuals and the
contesting community as a whole in gaining a deeper understanding and
appreciation of what transpires during a contest. Ideally, making data
available will spur novel ideas that lead to creative improvements.
Machine-Readable Results
Quantitative contest results that are normally presented in the printed or PDF
documents, such as line scores, leader boxes, records, etc., should also be
made available as machine-readable tables of data. In order to perform accurate
and detailed contest analysis the following data is of particular interest to
the contesting community:
The output of the log checking process for any entry
Supplementary details about a contestant?s equipment and precise geographic
location (e.g. Maidenhead grid locator or latitude-longitude coordinates)
Data that is provided should be in common formats suitable for importing into
standard logging programs, databases and spreadsheet packages. Examples of such
formats would be Cabrillo format for log data and CSV or tab delimited format
for tabular.
The following sections list the individual data elements recommended to be
present in each type of data.
Log Data
Summary (Header)
Station and operator call signs
Entry Class
Geographical Region
Other contest-specific grouping criteria
QSO data
Time and Date
Band
Mode
Exchange (Sent & Received)
Log checking output
TBD
Entry Supplemental Data
Station and operator call signs
Entry Class
Geographical Region
Equipment Summary
Other contest-specific grouping criteria
We note that the techniques and tools for providing on-line resources are
evolving rapidly. On-line resources are also likely to create a demand for new
types of data, as well. These recommendations are only a start.
Third-Party Analysis
Contest analysis provided by individual entrants should be accompanied by
supporting data tables, graphic objects, and program descriptions or ideally,
the programs themselves. The sponsor may also create novel analysis metrics
that are made available electronically via a database.
Examples of Novel Metrics:
Evaluation of geographical impact on performance
Propagation analysis based on geographical data
Accuracy metrics and comparisons
Operator ranking and rating systems
Comparative performance-over-time (horse races)
Open Access to Results & Data
Currently some contest content, e.g. expanded coverage for the 2001 ARRL
November Sweepstakes, is available only on the members-only section of the ARRL
Web site. While other content, e.g. PDF versions of the contest report articles
from QST, is placed initially on the members-only section for a proprietary use
period prior to its publication in QST. Open access is granted after the
article appears in QST and the PDF files are moved to the general user section
of the Web site.
It is appropriate for the bulk of enhanced and expanded contest coverage,
including narrative articles, leader boxes, contest analysis, video, audio,
etc., to remain on the members-only section of the ARRL Web site. Some content
may be released for general consumption after an appropriate proprietary period
at the ARRL?s discretion.
However, it is strongly recommended that open access, or at least access for
all contest participants, to some minimum set of data be provided. And that
access is granted to these data as soon as they become available.
Suggested Components for An Open Access Data Set:
Log data
Line scores in machine-readable form
Publication of Log Data
The DX community frowns upon providing public access to log data that includes
full QSO details. Such access is seen as enabling a form of ?data mining? that
would allow an unscrupulous station to claim credit for a log entry that in
truth represents a busted QSO.
Suggestions for Insuring Integrity:
Release log data only to individuals who submit a log themselves
Prohibit the further redistribution of log data by recipient
Do not release log data until log checking process is completed.
Investigate ways for ARRL Contest Branch to share log checking results with the
DXCC Program and Logbook of the World project.
Privacy Issues
As important as what data should be available is insuring that sensitive
personal information is not released. While certain personal information such
as a licensee?s name and mailing address is currently included in the log that
an entrant submits, this information is already a matter of public record and
readily available from multiple sources. Other, potentially more sensitive,
personal information about the entrant is not included in the log at present
and it is our recommendation that this should continue to be the case.
Suggestion to Safeguard Privacy:
Personal data that is not readily available from a public source should not be
published or released.
Preserving Participation
The mandatory release of log data as a condition of entry may cause certain
contesters either to forgo participating in a contest or, if they do
participate, to not submit a log.
Suggestions for Preserving Participation:
Include a mechanism in the log submittal process so that each entrant must
affirmatively authorize the publication and release of their log data.
Allow individuals to ?opt out? of sharing their log data without being
penalized.
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From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
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Sri if some of this has been said already, but there has been so much
talk on this subject that I just can't read it all.
My feelings are this:
Leave the 30 days to get logs in for now, but in the mean time instead
of just listing logs received, publish the claimed scores as they
arrive. The log rx robot should be able to handle this, after it
accepts a log just extract the claimed score, entry class, and club and
sort it into a web page listing. This will make the 3830 list
redundant, I hate sending the log one place, and the summary to 2
others(3830 and yccc's internal score list).
As logs get checked just update the list from above with the verified
results and resort. Probably starting with the biggest claimed logs and
working down so the most likely winners see their final standing first.
This would be similar to knowing the winner of a race before everyone
has even finished.
I would like to see more use of real time reporting like w1ve has done
for Writelog at http://www.contestlogs.com/live/default2.asp. I think
the wrtc demo of real time reporting has shown that there is some
interest in this concept. This will take some work on the part of
contesting loggers to send periodic updates in a specific format to a
server, but anyone that has telnet access to the web should be able to
do this. i.e. for something like dos CT I could make my wintelnetx
program grab a line score broadcast on the ct network and send it to the
w1ve server, all k1ea would have to do is add a periodic broadcast to
his network that has the right data in it. With a bit more work I could
probably make something to duplicate the ct log as it is sent on the
network and rescore myself to get the data. Other loggers would
probably be not much harder.
David Robbins K1TTT
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim Idelson
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 12:27
> To: CQ-Contest Post
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
>
> WN3VAW said:
>
> >I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes
in a
> positive way to encourage more potential contesters.<
>
> Thank heaven somebody finally said something a little bit strategic!
This
> is
> the first hint of forward thinking that I've heard in this entire
> conversation.
> Talking about a 15 day change in the results schedule seems to be an
empty
> effort when the implications of this change are much more
far-reaching.
>
> Over the past six months, about thirty-five of us got together and
> contributed
> to a major proposal about ARRL contest coverage which was submitted to
the
> ARRL
> BoD just before their meeting. I didn't expect to get an official
reaction
> from
> HQ right away, but I did expect to hear some reaction and conversation
> about
> the proposal here on the reflector.
>
> Maybe it was too much trouble to click on one of the links in my
previous
> message:
> PDF version:
> http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
> or
> HTML version:
> http://www.designet.com/k1ir/ContestCoverageProposal_071702.htm
>
> So, I'll attach it here. Unfortunately, the formatting of the charts
won't
> make
> it through the reflector, so you'll have to look at one of the
original
> documents if you are interested in those.
>
> Honestly, I am quite disappointed. I was really hoping that you'd take
a
> look
> at the hard work done by your peers and engage the subject fully.
>
> Here are a few points and questions to get you thinking:
> 1. The group concluded that contest coverage in QST is really lacking,
and
> that
> the pages remaining after line scores are removed should be used much
more
> creatively. Ideas have been presented. Which do you like/hate?
> 2. While the web is now being used to effectively present contest
results,
> there is still a need for a more permanent record and for hardcopy.
How do
> we
> do both?
> 3. The web is much more appropriate for conveying the contesting
> "experience."
> We can do it with sound, graphics and video. It can be stored. It can
be
> live.
> How can we get this done?
>
> Jim Idelson K1IR
> email k1ir@designet.com
> web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>
> *********** Forwarded Proposal ***********
>
> Contest Coverage Working Group
> Guidelines and Proposals
> 2 July 2002
>
> INTRODUCTION
> Lead Author ? Jim Idelson, K1IR
>
> Approach
>
> The Working Group has developed three interrelated proposals and this
> overview
> document, which addresses the process and integrates the component
> proposals.
> The proposals are:
> Proposal #1: General Guidelines for Allocating Material between
Print
> and
> Electronic Media
> Proposal #2: New Ideas for Contest-Specific and General Contesting
> Material
> Proposal #3: New Ideas for On-Line Contest-Specific Data
>
> The goal of these proposals is to serve as a vehicle for defining
broad-
> based
> understandings of what is and is not desirable, as well as to present
new
> ideas
> for coverage. All three are intended to undergo continual revision as
new
> ideas
> are encountered.
> The guidelines and proposals presented in this document are not
intended
> to
> address questions such as: the proper balance between contest and non-
> contest
> content in any particular medium; what constitutes an adequate number
of
> pages;
> or how much contest related content is appropriate in a general
readership
> publication such as QST.
>
> Background
>
> In 2001, faced with the prospects of operating deficits for the next
> several
> years, the ARRL Board's Administration & Finance Committee requested
staff
> identify areas of potential cost reduction. ARRL management's response
> included
> a plan for publishing QST with fewer pages of editorial content per
issue.
> One
> element of this plan would eliminate contest line scores from QST, to
be
> replaced by Web-based line scores. News of this proposal immediately
> sparked a
> series of reactions from the contesting community expressing concern
that
> contesting's presence in QST would be diminished to a damaging degree.
> The strength and breadth of feeling in the contest community regarding
the
> proposed changes was reflected in the 18 January 2002 joint statement
and
> request of U.S. contest clubs addressed to the ARRL Board of Directors
and
> signed by the presidents of twelve ARRL-affiliated contest clubs.
> Following
> through on the contest club presidents? proposal, concerned contesters
> from
> across the U.S. and Canada have joined forces to form the ad hoc ARRL
> Contest
> Coverage Working Group. This group is engaging the issues in a
pragmatic
> and
> constructive manner ? assisting the ARRL staff to find ways of
utilizing
> the
> limited number of QST pages allocated to reporting contest results in
> concert
> with alternative electronic media to obtain the best possible
distribution
> of
> contest coverage.
>
> New Technology, New Opportunities
>
> QST, NCJ, CQ and the recently demised CQ-Contest magazines have long
been
> the
> primary outlets for contest reporting in the U.S. Due to limited print
> space,
> the reporting is of necessity rather restricted and has converged on
an
> abbreviated format of summary, limited breakdowns, top scores, line
> scores, and
> a small amount of background information on or from individual
> competitors.
>
> Web pages and email-distributed newsletters, which have extremely low
> distribution costs, have become new outlets for this material. Because
of
> their
> low cost, constraints on the volume of material have essentially been
> removed.
> This allows expansion of many elements of contest coverage beyond what
any
> print medium could afford. In addition, electronic distribution
generally
> is
> much more timely than print, enabling multiple editions and frequent
> updates of
> material. It is expected that the current levels of quality and
quality
> control
> for published material would be met or exceeded, regardless of media.
>
> Electronic media can also go beyond print media in bringing new
dimensions
> of
> contest coverage and information to the audience. With database
> technology,
> contest logs can be sorted and filtered to meet any imaginable data
> analysis
> need. Using audio and video technologies, we can now convey more than
> basic
> reports on contesting; we can truly convey the experience of
contesting.
>
> HIGH-LEVEL CONCERNS
>
> A number of important points emerged from the discussion, and these
points
> cut
> across all forms of contest coverage. They are summarized below:
>
> Visibility
>
> One of the most commonly raised issues regarding a shift of line
scores
> from
> QST to the Web is the reduced visibility of the contesting community
to
> the
> broader amateur community, especially to casual participants and
potential
> newcomers. It is strongly felt that the acknowledgement from
publishing
> scores
> and calls, no matter how small the score, serves to attract and
encourage
> entry-level contesters to the sport.
>
> Contesters at all levels have always been honored to see their call
signs
> and
> performance in the ?bright lights? of QST. With great pride, they like
to
> refer
> other hams to the magazine and show the magazine to their non-ham
friends
> and
> family. There are widely held concerns over the loss of such
high-level
> visibility should scores be moved to the Web.
>
> Opportunities for Visibility:
>
> Include contest results announcements in the general news section of
> www.arrl.org with links to full coverage
> Use visual cues (highlighted links, graphics, or pop-up windows) to
entice
> ?surfers? to visit contest coverage
> Capture information about those who visit contest sections of the
Website
> and
> solicit them with opportunities to see more coverage
> Use the log submission mechanics to obtain email addresses to which
> results may
> be sent automatically.
> Continue to provide contest report articles in the ?traditional?
style,
> including line scores, via an electronic medium.
>
> Connectivity
>
> Recognizing that various print and electronic media will continue to
exist
> separately, and that there will not be a complete duplication of
content
> in the
> various media, every effort must be made to provide many references
among
> the
> different coverage vehicles. This implies many links in the electronic
> media,
> and many references to Web and email from the print media. For
example,
> QST
> coverage of contests should push readers towards Web-based coverage
and
> describe the expanded coverage options available.
>
> Opportunities for Connectivity:
> Every printed article should contain numerous and clear references to
> relevant
> electronic media.
> Many active links between electronic media presentations should be
> introduced
> and maintained.
> Cross-references from print media to electronic should not be limited
to
> QST.
> All ARRL publications should cross-reference relevant electronic
media.
>
> Ease of Use
>
> As electronic outlets for contest coverage are increasingly employed,
it
> is
> important to ensure that those who wish to view the content have an
easy
> and
> attractive way to navigate amongst the many types and sources of
> information
> that will be available. The approach to Website navigation and use of
> email
> will be an important part of the electronic media design.
>
> Suggestions for Ease of Use:
> Focus design on accessing all aspects of each contest from a single
place
> ? a
> contest home page for each contest. Include access to rules,
> announcements,
> current and historical results, discussions, Soapbox, etc ? all from a
> single
> home page.
> Avoid grouping of information by ?type?. For example, listing Soapbox
> links for
> all contests is not particularly useful, since few if any individual
> contesters
> will be interested in all contests.
>
> Beyond the Written Word
>
> The real secret to a successful shift from printed media to the Web is
in
> taking advantage of the capabilities that are unique to electronic
media.
> If
> use of the Web is restricted to duplicating the same kinds of material
> that
> would previously have been presented in magazines ? then the
transition to
> electronic media will not be as swift and powerful. Implementations
using
> electronic media to recreate and convey the excitement of the
contesting
> experience will make it impossible for this new approach to fail.
>
> Opportunities for Going Beyond the Written Word:
> Provide data in downloadable format wherever possible
> Add audio and video to the types of information available
> Include audio and video interviews with the winners and other entrants
> with
> something of interest to contribute
> Allow viewers to add data or audio/video to the available material
>
> Accessibility
>
> Access to electronic media distributed via the Internet is good and
> continues
> to improve. Even so, Internet access remains far from universal. In
2000,
> the
> U.S. Census Bureau reported that 51% of U.S. households had a computer
and
> 41.5% of households had access to the Internet. Neither percentage
> depended
> strongly on age group for adults in the range of 18?65 years old. The
> rates of
> computer ownership and Internet access both increase sharply with
greater
> household income and higher levels of education.
>
> Access to the broadband Internet connections, necessary for realizing
the
> full
> potential of powerful multi-media technologies such as video, is
rapidly
> improving as well. The FCC reports that 7.0% of U.S. households were
> subscribed
> to high-speed Internet services as of July 2001, up from 4.7% in
January
> 2001,
> and 1.6% in July 2000.
>
> Focusing specifically on the amateur community, a recent survey
> commissioned by
> the ARRL concluded that 89% of its members had Internet access
although
> only
> 51% of the ARRL membership had registered as users of the ARRL
members-
> only Web
> site by October 2001. The number of electronic versus the number of
paper
> logs
> received by both the ARRL Contest Branch and the CQWW Committee
suggest
> that
> the contesting community already is highly ?wired.?
>
> Suggestions for Accessibility:
> Print copies of unabridged contest announcements including the
detailed
> rules
> and ?traditional? contest report articles including line scores should
be
> available for those members who lack Internet access.
> Content produced for electronic distribution should also be published
on
> high-density, archival quality media, e.g. CD-ROM and DVD.
>
> Thinking Globally
>
> Contesters outside of the U.S. constitute a sizeable fraction of
today's
> contesting community. Anyone holding to the narrow view that ARRL
> sponsored
> contests are solely parochial affairs of interest to an exclusively
U.S.
> (or
> North American) audience is in error. Non-U.S. stations submitted 50%
of
> the
> logs received for the 2000 ARRL 10-Meter Contest; 55% of the logs for
the
> 2001
> ARRL International DX Contest; and 70% of the logs for the 2001 IARU
HF
> World
> Championships. In 2000, DX stations accounted for one-third of the
16,000
> contest logs processed by the ARRL Contest Branch and one-third of the
> scores
> printed in QST.
> Clearly, active contesters exist in substantial numbers around the
world
> yet
> they represent a virtually untapped market distinct from the ARRL?s
> traditional
> membership base. Like their U.S. counterparts, many international
> contesters
> are enthusiastic and excited about the prospects for expanded and
enhanced
> contest coverage being discussed. And they share an interest in
viewing
> such
> coverage.
>
> Historically, the costs of reaching a worldwide market using print
have
> been
> prohibitive, keeping demand to an absolute minimum. NCJ is not
marketed
> outside
> USA/Canada yet much of its content is relevant to contesters
worldwide.
> The
> very low distribution costs of electronic media now permit existing
> content and
> expanded coverage to efficiently reach a global audience.
>
> Suggestions for Connecting with A Global Audience:
> The ARRL offer non-U.S. contesters access to the expanded and enhanced
> contest
> coverage on the ARRL Web site; possibly in exchange for payment of an
> appropriate fee.
> Use e-mail addresses harvested from log submittals for the targeted
> marketing
> of expanded contest coverage, NCJ, membership, etc.
> Feature contests sponsored by sister IARU societies in reciprocity for
> similar
> exposure given to ARRL contests.
> Comb international sources for content. Acquire English language
rights to
> the
> best contest related content being produced worldwide.
> Cultivate international distribution channels and develop foreign
language
> outlets for ARRL contest coverage.
>
> Line Scores
>
> At present, line scores are the largest individual component of
contest
> coverage, occupying half the pages of contest reports in QST. Faced
with
> falling page counts and shrinking publication budgets but growing
> participation, we are forced to confront a nasty dilemma. Either
continued
> publication of line scores displaces all other aspects of contest
coverage
> from
> the pages of QST with contest reports being reduced to a listing of
scores
> and
> call signs. Or the contest related content that is best suited for
> distribution
> to a broad audience remains in QST with line scores relocated to the
Web.
>
> The guidelines in Proposal #1 are intended to be used as an aide when
> considering the optimal utilization of scarce resources. Several types
of
> content are judged by the Working Group as being better suited than
line
> scores
> for occupying a limited number of QST pages (see Table 1 in Proposal
#1).
> If
> the ARRL Board of Directors makes the determination to cut deeply into
the
> number of QST pages available for reporting contest results, an
> application of
> these guidelines would lead
> one to conclude that the least undesirable alternative is relocating
line
> scores to the Web. By using linkages and references, readership can be
> guided
> to the electronic media where line scores would be published in full
and
> possibly even in expanded form, as the 2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes
> results
> show.
>
> PROPOSAL #1 ? Allocation of Coverage to Print and Electronic Media
> Lead Author ? Ward Silver, N?AX
> Contributing Authors ? Michael Keane, K1MK and Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
>
> Scope
>
> This proposal addresses the general question of how to allocate the
> relative
> proportions of contest coverage between print and electronic media. No
> distinction is made between the different forms of either media (i.e.
?
> magazine vs. newsletter or Web page vs. email). No attempt is made to
> specify
> the details of coverage content or to rank the most valuable, most
> desirable or
> most enjoyable content.
>
> Purpose
>
> The purpose is to develop a set of general guidelines to provide
guidance
> to
> publishers for developing and distributing contest coverage material.
> Also, it
> may serve to encourage discussion about the development of new types
and
> forms
> of material.
>
> Background
>
> Currently, print media is the primary form for distributing contest
> information
> and results to the amateur radio community. Electronic media, however,
is
> rapidly becoming an accepted norm for distributing this type of
> information due
> to its cost advantages, timeliness and increasing public acceptance.
The
> question has become not if, but when and how much contest information
> should be
> made available electronically.
>
> In this rapidly changing environment, it is important that publishers
and
> readers have a good sense of each other?s needs. This document
attempts to
> provide information on the general types of contest coverage and the
> suitability of distributing each type of content in print or
electronic
> form.
> Print media is discussed as either General or Specialty. General
refers to
> media dealing with the full spectrum of ham radio, such as QST.
Specialty
> refers to publications aimed at contesters such as NCJ.
>
> Electronic media is discussed as either Push or Pull. Push refers to
> actively
> distributed formats, in which information is delivered to the consumer
at
> the
> initiative of the publisher ? the publisher is the active party.
Examples
> of
> push media include newsletters (email or print), bulletins and
broadcasts.
> Pull refers to passive sources of information, in which information is
> accessed
> or retrieved from the publisher at the initiative of the consumer ?
the
> reader
> is the active party. Examples of pull media include web pages,
bulletin
> boards,
> ftp sites, books, CD-ROMs and libraries.
>
> Coverage
>
> Contest announcements and results should be available in printed and
> digital
> media. An announcement is any advance notice that provides information
as
> the
> time, rules, awards, etc., about a specific contest. The results
include
> information describing any aspect of the contest that is distributed
after
> the
> contest.
> Table 1 shows the relative suitability of using each of these media to
> distribute specific announcement and results content; i.e. ? Is the
medium
> the
> one best suited to distribute this type of information to the target
> audience?
> The suitability of each content type is rated as high, limited or low.
The
> ratings attempt to account for all aspects of the medium including
cost,
> quality, readership, archival, timeliness, etc. The ratings are
defined as
> follows:
> High ? the medium is well suited to both the information and
the
> target audience.
> Limited ? the medium is not the best method for distribution
of
> the
> information to the target audience.
> Low ? the medium is poorly suited to the information, the
target
> audience or both; distribution of the information via this medium may
be
> inefficient, untimely or costly
>
> Table 1 ? General Allocation Guidelines
> OMITTED DUE TO FORMATTING PROBLEMS
>
> PROPOSAL #2 ? New Ideas for Contest-Specific and General Contesting
> Material
> Lead Author ? Brian D. Smith W9IND
> Contributing Authors ?Ward Silver N?AX, Gary Breed K9AY
>
> Scope
>
> This proposal discusses existing contest print coverage. New ideas for
> coverage
> are presented, both for print and electronic media. Details of
> implementation
> are not addressed, neither is the allocation of coverage between types
of
> media.
>
> Purpose
>
> The purpose of this proposal is to:
> Assess and critique current contest coverage in the print media.
> Suggest how to improve coverage in both print and electronic media.
> Contribute new ideas for coverage in multiple media.
>
> Background
>
> The ARRL Staff responsible for publishing a QST having fewer pages per
> issue
> has proposed to allocate the limited resources available for reporting
> contest
> results in ways that are appropriate for a general-readership, monthly
> magazine. This, they believe, would save money and create more space
for
> articles of greater general interest.
>
> The following proposal deals mainly with the latter objective. As
stated
> in
> Point 5 of the ?Joint Statement and Request of U.S. Contest Clubs on
the
> Proposal to Eliminate Detailed Contest Results from QST,? the
coalition of
> ARRL-affiliated contest clubs intends to assist QST in ?making such
> coverage
> more attractive and interesting to a much wider audience than has been
the
> case
> to date.?
>
> In striving to attain this goal, the lead author has drawn from about
a
> quarter
> century of professional journalism experience as a magazine editor,
> newspaper
> reporter and freelance writer. The approach of this proposal is
neither
> complex
> nor radical; it simply suggests journalistic techniques and angles
> traditionally used in the creation of newspaper and magazine feature
> stories,
> newswriting and sportswriting. These approaches are not unknown to
QST,
> but
> perhaps by utilizing them more often, the magazine would enhance its
> contest
> coverage.
>
> Critique of Existing Coverage
>
> QST?s current coverage includes the calls and scores of every entrant,
and
> in
> this respect, its articles could not be more thorough for anyone
seeking
> such
> information. The lead-in text that precedes the contest results is
often
> concise, matter-of-fact and esoteric, and perhaps more interesting to
> hard-core
> contesters than the average ham. As long as this is true, QST may find
it
> difficult to justify devoting so much space to contest coverage.
>
> Possible Alternatives
> QST could revamp the format of the coverage so that (1) the articles
are
> more
> interesting to non-contesters and (2) hams with little contesting
> experience
> are encouraged to get in the game.
>
> General Interest Coverage
>
> One alternative is to make the coverage more like a ?game story? found
on
> a
> sports page. For instance, rather than covering a contest from the
> standpoint
> of final scores (?Club ABC got 7.4 million points in the multi-multi
> category
> to edge Club XYZ, which scored 7.2 million?) ? as is typically done in
QST
> ?
> the magazine could approach it from a ?you are there? angle: ?Club
ABC?s
> contest effort almost ended before it began. Only three hours before
the
> start
> of the ARRL DX Contest, a severe thunderstorm packing 70 mph winds
sent
> their
> tallest antenna tumbling and the entire club scrambling. But a nifty
bit
> of
> improvisation put the station back on the air only 12 minutes before
> midnight
> in Greenwich ?,? etc. Stories like these would have universal appeal,
> regardless of whether the average reader cared deeply about
contesting.
>
> How to round up such information? The contest page on the ARRL Web
site
> already
> has a Soapbox, in which contesters can post their impressions,
complaints,
> reminiscences, anecdotes, etc., regarding each contest. All that?s
needed
> is to
> set up a similar Web site and inform contestants that QST is looking
for
> any
> good stories from the contest. Or the magazine could invite them to
e-mail
> this
> information. The author of the story could then scan the contributed
copy
> for
> the best tales. Many quotes could be lifted directly from the posts or
e-
> mails,
> and further information could be gathered via follow-up e-mail,
landline
> and/or
> even an on-air sked.
>
> New Approaches
>
> Looking more closely at newspaper sports sections, we find further
> inspiration
> and possibilities. We see that not everything on every page is a game
> story:
> There are also feature stories, profiles, personal columns and
?pre-games?
> (stories previewing important games and events ? for instance, ?The
Los
> Angeles
> Lakers may face their toughest challenge of the year when the Dallas
> Mavericks
> come to town Friday ??). The same elements and techniques that sustain
> sports
> pages across America could be employed in contesting coverage.
>
> Feature stories, a broad category, might include topics such as ?How
our
> club
> prepares for a multi-multi event? ? everything from how to recruit and
> schedule
> operators to what food and drink to keep in the fridge. There could be
> discussions of contesting tips and techniques: ?What to do when a
solar
> flare
> zaps the HF bands in the middle of a contest.?
>
> Profiles could run the gamut ? from the 88-year-old guy who organized
the
> first
> ARRL Whatever Contest to the club that?s won the last 10 CQWW
multi-multi
> titles.
> Personal columns could also include a broad range of topics, from
serious
> to
> humorous (?WPX: For once in my life, I?m as rare as Mongolia? by WY9A
? or
> ?How
> contesting enabled me to finally achieve DXCC?).
>
> ?Pre-games? would supplement the traditional pre-contest coverage,
which
> typically consists of a long list of rules and regulation. Such
> information is
> valuable to veteran contesters, but complicated and potentially off-
> putting to
> beginners. Naturally, no one wants to embarrass himself on the air, so
> many
> hams who might enjoy contesting may instead decide to forgo the
contest
> rather
> than risk ridicule.
>
> Attracting Newcomers
>
> Contesters are often viewed by non-contesters as insular and cliquish
(not
> to
> mention pushy). Undoubtedly, some contesters are less than courteous
in
> the
> heat of the battle. But as every contester knows, great scores depend
on
> great
> participation. We need the newcomers ? as many as we can get. So how
to
> make
> them feel welcome?
>
> QST and several Web sites publish information on upcoming contests,
but
> the
> rules may seem overly complex to the uninitiated. A better alternative
> might
> involve creating what?s known in the journalism business as a sidebar.
USA
> Today is fond of sidebars ? read a story about Barry Bonds? current
home
> run
> total and you might also see a sidebar about ?Most home runs in April
?
> all-time bests,? etc. Read any newspaper travel story and you?ll often
> find a
> sidebar that summarizes the key information: ?Destination: Louisville,
> Kentucky. Major tourist attractions: Located on the Ohio River, home
of
> Churchill Downs ?? etc.
>
> It is this user-friendly format ? the sidebar, which would accompany
the
> ?pre-game? write-up ? that would work best in attracting newcomers to
> contesting. Instead of having to wade through a plethora of technical
> data, a
> rookie contester could simply glance at the sidebar and learn
instantly
> what
> the contest was about and how to participate in it, even if he or she
had
> only
> a couple of hours to do so.
>
> Here?s how it might work (?Announced DXpeditions? might lure non-
> contesting
> DXers who are chasing DXCC and other awards):
> Contest: ARRL International DX Contest
> How to participate: Get on any of the HF bands except the WARC bands.
If
> you?re
> in the United States or Canada, you can?t work any station in either
> country ?
> look for DX stations only. For DX stations, the same applies in
reverse.
> What to say: Give a signal report and your state (for Americans),
province
> (for
> Canadians) or power in watts (DX stations).
> Announced DXpeditions: HK?HAM, San Andes Island, CT3QRP, Madeira
Islands,
> etc.
> Quirks: Split operation on 40 because DX stations are assigned to
> different
> frequencies, etc.
> Best reason to participate: You can attain DXCC in one weekend.
> Relative challenge: Easy for all. (Note: An EME contest would
obviously
> get a
> different answer.)
> Web links: http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2002/intldx.html
> Records: Yet another way to increase interest in contesting is to
stoke
> hams?
> competitive fires. How to do that? Create a Web site that provides
easy
> access
> to every record in every major contest. A good reference for records
would
> list
> more than the ?top? result in a particular category. By publishing
many
> results near the top (e.g., top 10, or all of the past results within
10%
> of
> the current high spot), competitors can try to sneak into the listing
even
> though conditions might not permit them to break an all-time record.
An
> excellent reference would contain links to more material: the actual
log,
> technical detail about the station which made the record, operator
> background,
> etc.
>
> This will give potential contest entrants a great many targets to
shoot at
> ?
> and might very well convince a casual contester to go at it for the
full
> 48
> hours. A ham who knows only the single-op, all-band record might say,
?Oh
> well,
> no way am I going to beat that. So I?ll just do a few hours here and
> there.?
> But what if W8HAM discovered that the CQWW 8-land single-op assisted
> record for
> 10 meters was tantalizingly low? That puts a different spin on things,
> doesn?t
> it?
>
> New Ideas for Coverage
>
> Story Ideas: The final part of our proposal offers story ideas that
> (hopefully)
> will interest a general audience. The following is a list of 20
potential
> stories or sidebars that could be included with contest coverage.
There
> are
> obviously many other possibilities.
>
> Trend stories ? ?20 percent of all contesting records were broken in
the
> year
> 2000,? etc. A snapshot of where contesting is going.
> A feature story about the op who holds more contest records than
anyone
> alive.
> The superstations: A guide to the greatest contest stations in
America/the
> world. Perhaps a sidebar on the tallest ham antennas in existence
(used in
> contesting).
> The best contesting conditions in history. (Consider sunspots,
weather,
> rare DX
> stations competing, etc.) A nostalgia piece loaded with anecdotes
about
> how
> sweet it was.
> You are there: A weekend with a championship contest team, from
planning
> to
> take-down.
> The world?s best contest location(s). (Not stations ? this story would
> give
> scientific reasons for why, say, a place next to salt water is better
than
> a
> spot in the middle of Midwest farm country. Or why a QTH on the East
Coast
> is
> ideal for working Europe on several bands (or whatever).
> Wild weather. Hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards and other examples of
> nature?s
> wrath ? and how their inopportune appearances ruined some major
contests
> or
> contesting efforts.
> Profile of a ham who contests only with homebrew equipment. Or antique
> equipment.
> How to work your way up to the big leagues. What separates a good
> contester
> from a rookie? How do you work several stations a minute? What are the
> most
> common mistakes a newcomer makes?
> How to organize a multi-multi effort. Everything from scheduling to
> feeding the
> troops.
> How to secure a great contesting QTH. A guide to the best locations,
and
> perhaps a list of specific sites that rent to hams and are already
> equipped
> with antennas.
> Big guns with little signals. A feature story about the best QRP
> contesters,
> and what they do right.
> The case for contesters. Why shouldn?t America?s biggest and best
stations
> form
> the backbone of the nation?s civil defense/emergency response efforts?
> Point/counterpoint: Examining the age-old issue of contest QRM versus
> ?it?s
> only one weekend?/?why don?t you ragchew on the WARC bands??
> On a similar note, a story about the fact that some contesters have
been
> cited
> by the FCC for deliberate interference during a contest. Is this truly
> fair,
> given the fact that some have said they couldn?t even hear the
stations
> they
> were supposedly QRMing?
> A brief history of contesting. How did it all start?
> Back when. Interviews with the oldest living contesters, and what
> contesting
> was like in their day.
> The lean years. How can you enjoy contesting when the sunspot count is
at
> or
> near zero? What?s the best strategy?
> Which band is best? A guide to choosing the best band for a
single-band
> contesting effort. How do the sunspot count, the A index, the weather,
> etc.,
> help determine the answer?
> Overcomers. Not necessarily the best contesters, just the most
inspiring
> ones,
> such as a ham who suffered a stroke but nevertheless fires up the rig
as
> part
> of his therapy, etc.
>
> Multimedia - Audio and Video
>
> Electronic media creates entirely new opportunities for contest
coverage.
> Not
> only can traditional presentations be distributed at vastly lower
expense
> and
> with higher volume, they can include new types of information as well.
> Audio
> and video recordings, as well as interactive graphics, can bring
> completely new
> dimensions to contest coverage. The ARRL is already providing audio
> recordings
> of QSOs in association with other Web coverage, for example.
>
> Contest coverage would greatly benefit from the following types of
> multimedia
> presentations:
> Audio recordings of contest QSOs
> Audio/video recordings of elements associated with the contest (pre-,
> during,
> and post-contest)
> Photo ?stills? and slide shows
> Interviews with the experts
> Live and still graphics generated by the ARRL and by entrants
>
> Because the amount of effort to create this type of information is
> substantial,
> it is strongly recommended that the ARRL provide a hosting facility
for
> contest
> entrants to contribute or post their own information as is currently
done
> with
> Soapbox. The size and duration of the postings could be limited to
manage
> the
> amount of data space required. The issue of reviewing each post for
> appropriate
> content would also have to be addressed.
>
> Because these new coverage elements are quite rich in content, they
are
> also
> likely to generate discussion and comment by the viewers. In order to
> focus the
> discussion, it would be useful to create a posting service on the
contest
> Web
> site where individual comments could be posted for public comment.
>
> Viewers will have widely divergent access bandwidths ranging from 28.8
> kbps
> dial-ups to broadband. If possible, server technology capable of
sensing
> link
> capability (or allowing the user to specify the link characteristics)
> should be
> used for distribution of the larger elements. An alternative would be
to
> provide large and small versions of elements, where practical.
>
> PROPOSAL #3 ? On-Line Distribution of Contest Data
> Lead Author ? Ward Silver, N?AX
> Contributing Authors ? Michael Keane, K1MK and Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
>
> Scope
>
> This proposal describes the types of contest data that should be made
> publicly
> available on-line. Detailed data formats are not covered.
>
> Purpose
>
> This document is a summary of ideas and suggestions contributed by
> individuals
> in the contesting community. It is hoped it will serve to stimulate
> discussion
> and produce more ideas.
>
> Background
>
> Until very recently, the only type of contest data available to
> contestants was
> printed and PDF documents that tabulated the scores of class leaders,
gave
> selected entrant breakdowns, and provided line scores of all entrants.
> Contest
> data in a digital form suitable for doing detailed post-contest
analysis
> has
> not been available. With the advent of the Web it is has become
> technically
> easy and cost-effective to make contest data available to everyone in
a
> format
> suitable for analysis. The excellent 2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes
> reportage
> clearly points the way to making improved data sets available.
>
> We expect that detailed post-contest analysis will assist individuals
and
> the
> contesting community as a whole in gaining a deeper understanding and
> appreciation of what transpires during a contest. Ideally, making data
> available will spur novel ideas that lead to creative improvements.
>
> Machine-Readable Results
>
> Quantitative contest results that are normally presented in the
printed or
> PDF
> documents, such as line scores, leader boxes, records, etc., should
also
> be
> made available as machine-readable tables of data. In order to perform
> accurate
> and detailed contest analysis the following data is of particular
interest
> to
> the contesting community:
> The output of the log checking process for any entry
> Supplementary details about a contestant?s equipment and precise
> geographic
> location (e.g. Maidenhead grid locator or latitude-longitude
coordinates)
> Data that is provided should be in common formats suitable for
importing
> into
> standard logging programs, databases and spreadsheet packages.
Examples of
> such
> formats would be Cabrillo format for log data and CSV or tab delimited
> format
> for tabular.
>
> The following sections list the individual data elements recommended
to be
> present in each type of data.
> Log Data
> Summary (Header)
> Station and operator call signs
> Entry Class
> Geographical Region
> Other contest-specific grouping criteria
> QSO data
> Time and Date
> Band
> Mode
> Exchange (Sent & Received)
> Log checking output
> TBD
> Entry Supplemental Data
> Station and operator call signs
> Entry Class
> Geographical Region
> Equipment Summary
> Other contest-specific grouping criteria
>
> We note that the techniques and tools for providing on-line resources
are
> evolving rapidly. On-line resources are also likely to create a demand
for
> new
> types of data, as well. These recommendations are only a start.
>
> Third-Party Analysis
>
> Contest analysis provided by individual entrants should be accompanied
by
> supporting data tables, graphic objects, and program descriptions or
> ideally,
> the programs themselves. The sponsor may also create novel analysis
> metrics
> that are made available electronically via a database.
>
> Examples of Novel Metrics:
> Evaluation of geographical impact on performance
> Propagation analysis based on geographical data
> Accuracy metrics and comparisons
> Operator ranking and rating systems
> Comparative performance-over-time (horse races)
>
> Open Access to Results & Data
>
> Currently some contest content, e.g. expanded coverage for the 2001
ARRL
> November Sweepstakes, is available only on the members-only section of
the
> ARRL
> Web site. While other content, e.g. PDF versions of the contest report
> articles
> from QST, is placed initially on the members-only section for a
> proprietary use
> period prior to its publication in QST. Open access is granted after
the
> article appears in QST and the PDF files are moved to the general user
> section
> of the Web site.
>
> It is appropriate for the bulk of enhanced and expanded contest
coverage,
> including narrative articles, leader boxes, contest analysis, video,
> audio,
> etc., to remain on the members-only section of the ARRL Web site. Some
> content
> may be released for general consumption after an appropriate
proprietary
> period
> at the ARRL?s discretion.
>
> However, it is strongly recommended that open access, or at least
access
> for
> all contest participants, to some minimum set of data be provided. And
> that
> access is granted to these data as soon as they become available.
>
> Suggested Components for An Open Access Data Set:
> Log data
> Line scores in machine-readable form
> Publication of Log Data
>
> The DX community frowns upon providing public access to log data that
> includes
> full QSO details. Such access is seen as enabling a form of ?data
mining?
> that
> would allow an unscrupulous station to claim credit for a log entry
that
> in
> truth represents a busted QSO.
>
> Suggestions for Insuring Integrity:
> Release log data only to individuals who submit a log themselves
> Prohibit the further redistribution of log data by recipient
> Do not release log data until log checking process is completed.
> Investigate ways for ARRL Contest Branch to share log checking results
> with the
> DXCC Program and Logbook of the World project.
>
> Privacy Issues
>
> As important as what data should be available is insuring that
sensitive
> personal information is not released. While certain personal
information
> such
> as a licensee?s name and mailing address is currently included in the
log
> that
> an entrant submits, this information is already a matter of public
record
> and
> readily available from multiple sources. Other, potentially more
> sensitive,
> personal information about the entrant is not included in the log at
> present
> and it is our recommendation that this should continue to be the case.
>
> Suggestion to Safeguard Privacy:
> Personal data that is not readily available from a public source
should
> not be
> published or released.
>
> Preserving Participation
>
> The mandatory release of log data as a condition of entry may cause
> certain
> contesters either to forgo participating in a contest or, if they do
> participate, to not submit a log.
>
> Suggestions for Preserving Participation:
> Include a mechanism in the log submittal process so that each entrant
must
> affirmatively authorize the publication and release of their log data.
> Allow individuals to ?opt out? of sharing their log data without being
> penalized.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From K4BEV at aol.com Sat Jul 27 12:39:37 2002
From: K4BEV@aol.com (K4BEV@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
Message-ID: <7c.2b888381.2a7418b9@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/27/02 10:11:36 Central Daylight Time, k1ttt@arrl.net
writes:
> instead of just listing logs received, publish the claimed scores as they
> arrive.
While the above is an outstanding idea, the Cabrillo format doesn't include
that information. It could, however, be included in the subject line of the
log submission, or the format could possibly (?) be changed to include it.
Along with the claimed score I like seeing the number of contacts made and
mult total.
73, Don - K4BEV
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>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Sat Jul 27 12:58:53 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207271153320.8970-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
I believe the most important aspect of getting the results out just before
the next running of the event is that it serves to motivate people to
operate again more effectively. IMO, the League would help their contests
by delaying their printed results.
When am I thinking about CW SS? Not in April.
73
Bill, W4AN
>From jfunk at adams.net Sat Jul 27 11:49:33 2002
From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 15 days...not yet....
Message-ID: <033c01c23586$b6abd700$e8248ad8@adams.net>
Though I am in sympathy with the desire to speed contest results to view, I
find the proposal to drop the log submission deadline to 15 days
post-contest to be in potential conflict with *last week's goal* of
recruiting new contesters.
Several times in the last year or so, I have had new contesters operate a
contest and then hand-deliver their paper logs to me so I could type them
into TrLog and submit them electronically. Some of them don't have
computers (gaack!), some don't have e-mail, some of them don't have logging
programs, and some just didn't know how to handle the logs
post-contest....yet. They are learning. OTOH, they all were willing to
spend a bit of time in the contest and submit the results...somehow; and
they are invariably thrilled to see their calls in print (oops...we've been
there).
I'm not sure *I* can deal with that extra step (or two) and still make
a 15-day deadline. What I *am* sure about is that we don't want to lose
these guys/gals that are just testing the contesting waters.
Fifteen days? Not yet, please.
73, Jim N9JF
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sat Jul 27 10:46:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207271646.g6RGkQH27614@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Rover LP
N4PN 676 75 400 57 20 20,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
KN4Y 591 0 42 0 12 49,644 FCG
N4GG 78 10 64 10 9 12,284 PVRC
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
K8MR 52 4 39 4 4,644 MRRC
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NJ8J 43 7 21 7 3 2,604 SECC
W4SAA 27 0 23 0 2 1,242 FCG
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op QRP
NJ4X/7 32 0 31 0 3 1,984
K8GU(@K8GU/P) 8 0 8 0 1 128 MRRC
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 2 15 SECC
Operators:
(none)
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sat Jul 27 10:47:40 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207271647.g6RGleE27623@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
KB8U 227 99 17 30,888
K3DNE 167 69 10 15,732 PVRC
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
K8CC 130 72 6.5 12,240 MRRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE3KZ 126 66 9,570 Ontario VHF Associat
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
K0UK 2 2 27 6 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/2 QRP
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
HS0XNO 97 2 9 388
HS5SYH 25 2 2 100
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 LP
K8KFJ 26 19 6 494
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 QRP
N3AWS 5 4 3 20
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sat Jul 27 10:50:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207271650.g6RGoZn27638@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
W6YX 446 156 10 69,576 NCCC
W1GZ 252 112 10 28,224
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
VA3DX 361 145 10 53,067
W1ZT 373 134 10 49,982 YCCC
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 9 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
9A5W(@9A1A) 301 107 9 32,207
WB4EQS 259 124 32,116
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
AI9T 251 123 10 30,873
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K7ZUM 241 118 7 28,438 WVDXC
N1NB 240 105 8 25,200
K4PX 225 111 10 24,975
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
W4BCG 222 107 9 23,754 TCG
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
K6XT 213 98 9 20,874
W6ZL(BIGWAVE) 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
KD8FS 195 97 5 18,915
LP7H(LU9HS) 227 76 10 17,252
K3FH 176 98 9 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 7 14,964
IT9BLB 186 78 10 14,508 TIKIRRIKI CONTEST CL
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
K5AM 169 78 4 13,182
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
K1XX 161 78 9 12,090
IK0HBN 150 57 10 8,550
WB0O 110 71 2 7,810
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 3 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K9SZ 48 33 1,584
K6OWL 46 34 3 1,564
XE2AC 42 27 3 1,134
F6FJE 24 23 6 552
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
W1GZ N1MGO,WN1E
W6YX K6ENT,N6DE,W6ZZZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sat Jul 27 11:00:33 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207271700.g6RH0Xp27651@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
K8LX 456 0 169 6 304,538
W7GG 362 300 44 9 265,742
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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USA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
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USA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 116 19 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 21 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
K9TM 901 0 109 13 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
AI9T 102 51 15,810
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
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USA SO CW LP
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
W4BCG 75 0 40 6 9,400 TCG
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
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USA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
K6XX 1264 247 179 23 1,030,682 NCCC
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 19 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
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USA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
K1HT 399 123 139 9 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 5 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
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USA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 13 10,701 SECC
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USA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
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USA SO SSB LP
NQ4U 0 235 49 8 81,498 TCG
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
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USA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
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Non-USA M/S HP
S50HQ 4493 4185 416 24 11,710,400
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
J75KG 1654 661 192 24 1,776,768 FCG
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
DF0RU 775 663 227 22 1,116,031 Berlin-DX-Group
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
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Non-USA M/S LP
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
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Non-USA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
PJ2E(N1UR) 2211 0 198 24 2,067,034 YCCC
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 20 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
DH7KU 550 0 66 16 134,640 DK0UN University Rad
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
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Non-USA SO CW LP
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
OH/W6YA 770 0 159 354,570
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
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Non-USA SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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Non-USA SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RK4FF 1594 846 325 24 2,637,700
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 23 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
UY5ZZ 991 304 123 956,032
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 15 463,606 HSDXA
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 8 402,327
XE2AC 225 598 90 8 257,760
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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Non-USA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
VE4YU 360 232 61 19 270,750
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 8 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
SV1DNW 132 58 84 12 43,008
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
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Non-USA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
DF1DX 141 114 92 13 71,300 RR DX
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Non-USA SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 23 2,342,130 Other (specify when
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
RN4LP 1505 251 24 1,175,433
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
FM5GU 0 1492 99 10 609,246
S57UN(@S52ZW) 430 5 117,432 SCC
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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Non-USA SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
SV1DKL 0 683 183 18 416,325
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 162,047
DL4RCK 286 72 8 98,412 BCC
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
DF0RU DH2UHF,DK3WW,DL1AXL,DL7BY,DL7UBA,DL7UFP,DL7UTM
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
W7GG K7ZUM,KC7TWZ,W7GG
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 27 11:59:32 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Recruiting 101
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207270041390.22765-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <20020727175932.97309.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com>
Where is K9PG when you need him ???? Paul... you going to be doing
some publicizing of the NAQP for next weekend ??????
73's Jeff
--- "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com> wrote:
>
>
> I'm now involved with recruiting members for next weekend's NAQP CW
> contest. I'm having some success recently recruiting people to
> operate
> the CW Sprint and NAQP contests, and thought I might pass on some
> hints in
> hopes that other clubs will also have success recruiting members for
> contests.
>
> 1) Announce your intentions here on CQ-Contest and club mail
> reflectors.
> Normally I find this to be mildly successful. Be sure to mention
> that you
> are not just looking for serious operators... that you are fielding
> teams
> of part-timer ops too.
>
> 2) The best technique I have found is contacting each person directly
> by
> e-mail personally. I follow the same method as is #1 and normally
> put in
> some kind of note about us trying to show up some other club or
> something
> else that we can all get our heads around.
>
> 3) Finding Members. I first look at old results for the contest in
> question. Then I move to other contests. For instance, I've had
> really
> good luck this time recruiting guys that operate the ARRL 160 and 10
> meter
> contests as well as CW SS. The results are on the web, and almost
> everyone has an email address that can easily be had on eHam.net or
> QRZ.com. These are also contests that are more domestic in nature,
> which
> is right up the alley of the NAQP.
>
> 4) Finding More Members. Team work! I ask everyone on our teams to
> recruit just one other person to be a member of the teams. This has
> worked very well in the past, as there is no way I can know every
> potential operator in the 4th call area.
>
> 5) Organization. I'm now keeping everyone's callsign, name, etc, in
> a
> database so I can quickly refer to it the next running of the
> contest.
>
> 6) Post cards. Some of the Sprint regulars have recently taken up
> writing
> potential operators post cards in an effort to remind them of a
> contest.
> I personally find email with the expressed intent of joining a team
> is
> more effective.
>
> 7) Team placement competition. Back in the early 80s there was this
> phenom called the Midwest Popguns organzied by Joe (W8LNO) and Tom
> (N0SS) for the CW Sprint. Team placement was based on your finish in
> the
> prior contest. The Popguns fieleded several teams, and I recall
> being
> highly motivated to move from team last to team next. We are just
> starting with this here in W4 for next month's Sprint.
>
> So far I have 22 guys signed up for next weekend. The TCG and FCG
> are
> also fielding at least 2 teams each. I figure we'll have more than
> 50
> guys from W4 active to some degree or another! Now think how much
> fun the
> contest would be if this could be nearly duplicated across 10 call
> areas!
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
>
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>From k2av at contesting.com Sat Jul 27 15:38:44 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207271153320.8970-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <001d01c2359c$d66838c0$0500a8c0@swift>
For operating at a multi, the biggest help is to get the final score
(and the ubn's, etc.) back so the guys can go through it and formulate
ideas for the next time while
1) we can still remember what was going on in the contest
2) while there's still time to engineer and implement changes for
the next one (which is not necessarily the SAME contest a year hence).
Ain't NO big rush at all. We're not dealing with anything that's a
RUSH here.
Just trying to get rid of the obnoxious, brain-numbing, slower than
molasses at the North Pole at Christmas, DELAY in seeing what you did
that we have been putting up with since forever. And get rid of AS
MUCH of the delay as is possible.
Imagine boarding a plane October 30 and not knowing if you made it to
your destination until the next September. Instead you get off the
plane and you have to call Dink to see what country your plane landed
in.
Imagine having a Christmas present under your tree, but you can't open
it until next Thanksgiving.
Imagine closing on a house, starting the payments, paying the
insurance, but not being allowed to move in for ten months.
Instead, for reasons increasingly ENTIRELY artificial, doing a contest
is like starting a pregnancy. Lot of fun in a hurry, but you're going
to wait nine months to see what happened.
Even 30 days is a DELAY, no matter which way you add it up. Even for
the Post Office, 30 days is unacceptable.
Having the scores ready at Noon, Monday, next day after the contest,
THAT'S a rush.
73, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 11:58 AM
Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
> I believe the most important aspect of getting the results out just
before
> the next running of the event is that it serves to motivate people
to
> operate again more effectively. IMO, the League would help their
contests
> by delaying their printed results.
>
> When am I thinking about CW SS? Not in April.
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
>
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>
>From n7mal at citlink.net Sat Jul 27 19:54:17 2002
From: n7mal@citlink.net (N7MAL)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
References: <200207270224.g6R2O1hF032150@contesting.com>
<05da01c23517$89c05b40$03010a0a@office1>
<001d01c2353f$1f5b8ae0$7c6f7e42@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <003101c2359f$0efb0800$41c043d8@n7mal1>
I could not agree with my friend, Jim, more. In fact here is an excerpt from
reply sent directly to Trey: "Hi Trey; your plan, of course, is flawless.
BUT why do we want or need it? The old system has worked perfectly for many
years. Why do we need instant
gratification? Your argument by the time results are published we forgot
what we operated in is, at best, ludicrous. I believe, down to my toes, the
wait for the results promotes interest rather than reduce interest. I go
back to the days of paper logs"...blah blah blah......"You are making and
suggesting changes for the sake of making changes and to overturn a
perfectly working system for those
motivations is absurd."......blah blah blah....
Trey is not suggesting making the system better he is making it faster, for
reasons I still don't understand, let alone agree with. He has done
marvelous work getting the Cabrillo system up and running and should receive
kudos' from all of us for that improvement. Getting as many humans out of
the system as possible was a good thing.
Sometimes slowing down and smelling the roses aint such a bad thing.
MAL N7MAL
BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Neiger" <n6tj@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 07:27
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
> I guess I agree with Ron:
>
> Even if we can maybe hasten the time to the final results, What's the Big
> Rush? Its worked so well for so many years, why do we now think it's
> broken?
>
> Just because many things in our lives CAN and DO go faster, does
everything
> have to?
>
> For many years, the speed limit was 55 MPH. Then they cranked it back up
to
> 65, and in some places even 70. Now, if you're not doing at least 80 on
the
> 91 Freeway, hey buddy, get out of the way. Does that make our lives
> necessarily "better"?
>
> I recall when I was thrilled with my first computer, humming along at a
nice
> 16 MHz. Now I'm wondering if my new 1.3 GHz notebook is fast enough?
Give
> me a break, please..........
>
> Everything today is about speed, speed, speed. Even when driving in Italy
> or Germany, do I take a relaxed tour @ 100 km/hour so I might actually SEE
> some of the beautiful countryside? Nah, I've got to try and COMPETE with
> the locals, and crank it up to 200 km/hr (at least). Is my quality of
life
> better by doing so? I think not. It's just dumb, dumb, dumb.
>
> Now we're led to believe, we can't live without INSTANTANEOUS
GRATIFICATION
> on our contest victory?
>
> If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But it's very thoughtful of The Kid (as
> Trey is known around this household) to worry that we old guys may not be
> around long enough for the final results.
>
> The meaningfulness of the answer, for me, far exceeds the quest for
> expediency, in this case.
>
> Vy 73
>
> Jim Neiger
> N6TJ
>
>
>
> >
> > Considering the outcry last year when (under the dubious excuse of
safety
> of
> > the mail) CQ Magazine forced all of us to enter only by electronic
means,
> to
> > now propose to "force" contest entrants to rush in their logs and then
> > "force" the contest committee to rush compilation in another 2 weeks
> strikes
> > me as being too hasty.
> >
> > Are we all so impatient that reducing the turn-around time between
contest
> &
> > results from 6-8 months for the ARRL, and 8-10 months for CQ (just to
pick
> > on two) to under 2 months isn't enough, but we're going to try to
> force-feed
> > it to 6 or even 4 weeks?
> >
> > Remember, we're not dealing with a "closed" environment like the WRTC
> > competitions, where you have a relative small number of stations (50 or
> > less) competing for 24 hours. Compiling those results in a few hours is
a
> > piece of cake. We're talking about 48 hour contests that literally
> involve
> > thousands, if not tens of thousands, of amateurs -- many of whom never
> have
> > or will send in logs, which always leave question marks about "uniques"
> and
> > "busted calls" and other potential problems to sort out.
> >
> > Further, you must remember that in much of the world outside of North
> > America and Europe, Internet access is not as accessible nor as cheap as
> it
> > is here. I would not be at all surprised to learn that there are many
> > active contesters who have a computer in the shack, yet prefer to mail
> their
> > results in via a disk for whatever reasons.
> >
> > I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
> > positive way to encourage more potential contesters. I think if we rise
> the
> > bar too high, we make the goal too difficult, it will do the exact
> opposite
> > by discouraging potential contesters and some of the active and less
> active
> > ones out there.
> >
> > I also would question the ability to compile scores, even with
automation,
> > in a day or two. Pending data to prove that one way or another, that
> > strikes me as being more than a bit optimistic. Can someone on one of
the
> > major contest committees comment on whether or not automation makes one
or
> > two days practical?
> >
> > I am not saying that Trey's proposed 15 day deadline is a bad idea. But
I
> > don't think we're quite ready for it yet. One thing at a time.
> >
> > 73, ron wn3vaw
> >
> > "What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of
> our
> > time?" -- Howard Beale
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
> > To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
scores
> > decision)
> >
> > > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble
and
> > > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > > Tell me if
> > > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the
> contest
> > > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > No, it's not good enough.
> >
> > I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> > entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a
> tad
> > more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now
> have,
> > 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> > that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves
most
> of
> > that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
> >
> > You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it
later.
> > When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal
> and
> > then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
> >
> > I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
> >
> > Gary W2CS
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
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>From K4BEV at aol.com Sat Jul 27 16:23:50 2002
From: K4BEV@aol.com (K4BEV@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
Message-ID: <cd.1ae6f65f.2a744d46@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/27/02 11:12:56 Central Daylight Time, K4BEV@aol.com
writes:
> the Cabrillo format doesn't include that information
I looked at a submitted log and didn't see the Claimed Score.
It IS there though.
SRI,
Don - K4BEV
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>From headrick at radar.nrl.navy.mil Sat Jul 27 20:42:25 2002
From: headrick@radar.nrl.navy.mil (James Headrick)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Contest Coverage Working Group Guidelines and
Proposals
In-Reply-To: <t83ad26ssmyfq07.270720020826@designet-jsi>
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20020727191849.031f7580@radar.nrl.navy.mil>
Jim, the people that look at this reflector have pretty short attention
spans and don't like to examine in depth. Your 'Guidelines and Proposals'
is 15 pages long!! jim w3cp
>From n2mg at eham.net Sat Jul 27 17:43:52 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
References: <cd.1ae6f65f.2a744d46@aol.com>
Message-ID: <008401c235ae$52b6f9a0$3201a8c0@mikehome>
>From the Cabrillo spec, http://www.kkn.net/~trey/cabrillo/spec.html
CLAIMED-SCORE: n
The claimed-score of the log submission, in integer form such as 1217315 or
19113 or 12.
It's redundant from a final score point of view, but if the robot can start
posting "claimed scores" then this field has renewed relevance.
----- Original Message -----
From: <K4BEV@aol.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
> In a message dated 7/27/02 11:12:56 Central Daylight Time, K4BEV@aol.com
> writes:
>
>
> > the Cabrillo format doesn't include that information
>
> I looked at a submitted log and didn't see the Claimed Score.
> It IS there though.
> SRI,
> Don - K4BEV
>
>From kc5ajx at hotmail.com Sat Jul 27 21:49:27 2002
From: kc5ajx@hotmail.com (Rick Bullon)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Porposal for new contest sponsors
Message-ID: <F73Tlm70rM3TbhyF2fP00021f65@hotmail.com>
We have the technology today that there
is not a need for national organizations like the ARRL or a magazine
like CQ need to sponsor our contests. Most of those who check the logs
and are sponsoring the awards are donating their time to do this
anyway.
Jeff
I agree with Jeff. What does the contest sponsors really do? They make the
rules for the contest ( and are reluctant to change them if we suggest
changes) and they report the results but only for the members or subscribers
at first.
We have the means and opportunity to make contesting into what we want it to
be after all are not the contests really our contest and not theirs? They
are not really interested in the contests, they see it as a means to get
members or subscribers, and they can still do this by publishing articles
about the contests and let us run them.
Here is what I propose
Take control of the contests and move the ARRL and CQ mag from sponsors to
reviewers
If we could get a web page on one of the contest servers then we would not
need the ARRL or CQ mag for contests
We have the CAC but they can only suggest changes in the rules. Why not have
them make and change the rules based on feedback from us the contesters.
The awards are sponsored and distributed by volunteers so we need to help
them do a better job (suggestions here please). I do admit the Dan N1ND at
the ARRL contest section does an excellent job we do need him and his
assistants. Is it possible to get Dan to do this outside of the ARRL?
I am not sure who does the awards for the CQ contests but I know their
record for getting awards and plaques to the winner's is not very good. What
needs to be done to help them do a better job???
As far as log checking I believe that Tree N6TR wrote the log checking
software for most of the contests and he wrote the software for the robot
for log submissions I am not sure who owns the rights to the software, but
if we could get this software and something like what the ARRL is doing on
the website to report the scores it would be great. Who did the programming
on the ARRL web page?
I also like K1TTT's suggestion of real time reporting in the internet. The
WRTC team proved it can be done on a small scale can't it be done for a
larger contest?? Some might say that real time reports like what the WRTC
did would promote cheating but I think that those who cheat will always find
a way to break the rules and that the cheaters are few compared to the
numbers of honest contesters.
I think over all that the changes the ARRL has made on their website is
great but the resource they provide there should be available to all
contesters not not to the members only. I understand why they do it that way
but I feel the membership in the ARRL is more than the contests
they do a great job and we need them for what they do. I don't think that
making the contest site available to all will hurt membership, but it is
becoming and valuable tool to contesting, either open it up to all or let it
be moved to a contest site like I proposed above
Another idea I have is after the contest deadline for logs be it 15 or 30
days, that the logs submitted be available on line in a form we can sort
like we can sort the scores are on the ARRL website this way we can digest
what the other stations are doing and when to help us be better in the next
contest.
These are just my suggestions feel free to tear it apart and discuss it.
Maybe we can come up with a resource for all to use to make contesting
better for us all.
73
Rick
KC5AJX
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>From n3bb at mindspring.com Sat Jul 27 16:39:56 2002
From: n3bb@mindspring.com (Jim George)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] N5KO's proposal to shorten the results availability
Message-ID: <v02120d0ab968c35abc1c@EIM-Mac-1.5tcp>
In general, I support Trey's efforts. "If you're not making progress,
you're moving backwards." The points by Dave, G4BUO, regarding more time
for overseas logs seems like a valid point, but as a general rule, people
either prepare their contest results right away, or put if off until the
deadline, when they have forgotten the details. For me, a 30 days period
to get in the results from anywhere in the world by postal mail is
adequate, and this should enable the results to be analyzed and posted on
the internet sooner. The magazine articles can come sooner as well.
73,
Jim
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Sat Jul 27 16:47:34 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Porposal for new contest sponsors
References: <F73Tlm70rM3TbhyF2fP00021f65@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <00fc01c235b7$37bb1510$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
>I agree with Jeff. What does the contest sponsors really do? They make the
>rules for the contest ( and are reluctant to change them if we suggest
>changes) and they report the results but only for the members or
subscribers
>at first.
>We have the means and opportunity to make contesting into what we want it
to
>be after all are not the contests really our contest and not theirs? They
>are not really interested in the contests, they see it as a means to get
>members or subscribers, and they can still do this by publishing articles
>about the contests and let us run them.
Very strong ideas - I like many of them!
I, like you, think that the contest community could evolve into a sort of
"open source contest scoring and analysis community". I also think that much
of what you are saying will come to pass fairly soon but probably not right
at the moment. It will take a bit of time for the momentum to build. You
might find that some of your suggestions are embedded - but not
transparently - in the proposal we recently placed before the ARRL BoD. Have
a look at the section on 3rd party activities and availability of contest
logs in http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
If contestant logs were made available to 3rd parties any number of
different rule sets can be tried and tested on them giving us an opportunity
to explore new rules without disturbing the 'classic' rules for the time
being. In fact, as a community all we really need to do is submit our logs
to the contest sponsor and to a central public repository. However, it would
be nice if we did not have to duplicate our efforts. Thus the proposal to
the ARRL BoD proposes that ARRL contest logs be made available to 3rd
parties provided certain privacy & security issues are respected. Also
contestants should be allowed to "opt out" of making their logs available to
3rd parties Open source logs with open source scoring and analysis software
could open many unique doors for us to explore the future face of contesting
now!
I say - let the evolution begin! :-)
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From n6ws at charter.net Sat Jul 27 15:55:33 2002
From: n6ws@charter.net (Bill Shell)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Station in CO or NM
Message-ID: <BGECJAFKJHPEIEKNBLKMIEIGECAA.n6ws@charter.net>
Hello All,
Are there any contest stations in Northern New Mexico or Southern Colorado
planning for a multi-single or multi-multi operation during CQWW CW? I'm
planning on being in the Trinidad, CO area during the contest, and would
like to participate with a group in the area.
73, Bill
N6WS
n6ws@charter.net
>From kshaddri at xtratyme.com Sat Jul 27 18:15:37 2002
From: kshaddri@xtratyme.com (Kelley Shaddrick)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 10-10 Contest Antennas
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020727171203.00a17e70@mail.xtratyme.com>
Anyone have any thoughts on antennas for the upcoming 10-10 contest? What
is all around best, vertical, dipole, ground plane? I've currently got an
all band inverted V at about 50 feet and a vertical mounted on a chain link
fence. While I'd love to have a beam, not in the cards for this year. What
can I add to improve my chances of additional contacts?
Thanks,
Kelley - W?RK
>From w7ti at dslextreme.com Sat Jul 27 16:51:58 2002
From: w7ti@dslextreme.com (Bill Turner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Porposal for new contest sponsors
In-Reply-To: <F73Tlm70rM3TbhyF2fP00021f65@hotmail.com>
References: <F73Tlm70rM3TbhyF2fP00021f65@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <rm86kug8qrgc38f5tf4eg005e00gt6ufju@4ax.com>
On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:49:27 +0000, Rick Bullon wrote:
> What does the contest sponsors really do?
_________________________________________________________
Having a contest sponsored by an organization ensures continuity
over time, at least while the organization endures. To "take"
the contest away from the organization and place it in the hands
of volunteers who come and go guarantees the contest will
fragment and disappear in a short while.
Bill, W7TI
>From k8cc at comcast.net Sat Jul 27 20:50:02 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Recruiting 101
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020727194824.009c0490@mail.comcast.net>
Bill,
I gotta commend you on your efforts to raise teams for the NAQPs. It
sounds like you're having a lot of success and it should be a lot of fun.
You mention W8LNO's 'Midwest Popguns'. Joe was a long-time member of MRRC
and about the same time that he was organizing the Popguns, I was
organizing the 'Motley Crew' Sprint teams. This was the timeframe (early
80s) immediately after I returned to MI from college in AR. K5GO and I
were on 7200 KHz every Tuesday evening talking contesting and we'd attract
other contesters. We started with one Motley Crew team (the name sprung
from the wide assortment of operators we attracted), had two teams quite
often, and occasionally three if I remember correctly.
Of course, IMHO the crowning achievement of the Motley Crew and Midwest
Popgun teams was the 45 minute "New Wave" Sprint we held immediately before
a regular Sprint in 1984 to protest W6OAT's refusal to move the starting
time from 01Z to 00Z to provide a modicum of stateside propagation for us
Midwesterners. We made our point and Rusty made the change. The panic
caused across the USA as contesters double-checked their clocks was a bonus...
Of course this was before you and I knew each other :-)
We need more stuff like this to make history.
I wonder what Joe Warden is up to now?
Unfortunately, we have an MRRC meeting at W8AV's the day of the CW
NAQP. This date was not chosen carelessly, but was the result of 'AV
family schedules. Our plan is to have K8MAD on the air multi-op from 'AV
for NAQP CW QSOs. Also, the following weekend is the OH QSO Party so a
number of the mobiles plan to drive their mobile contest setups to the
meeting so there are some other potential sources for QSOs.
GL OM.
73,
Dave
>From k8cc at comcast.net Sat Jul 27 21:01:31 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Use For The Cabrillo Claimed Score Field
In-Reply-To: <008401c235ae$52b6f9a0$3201a8c0@mikehome>
References: <cd.1ae6f65f.2a744d46@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020727195526.009c3550@mail.comcast.net>
Speaking for the ARRL 160/10 logchecking team, we use the Cabrillo Claimed
Score field an a sanity check on the score our logchecking process
generates. Anything more than about a 25% difference generates a warning
for manual review. IMHO, anything which helps us guarantee the integrity
of the log is a good thing.
Certainly this field is not required since we completely recalculate the
scoring anyways. While its simple for the logging software to include,
Cabrillo converters such as KA5WSS and WT4I generally are not equipped with
scoring algorithms and so are unable to calculate the score.
This past contest we discovered that even some logging programs don't know
how to calculate ARRL 10M scores correctly. Unfortunately we could not
tell which ones - the programs left no telltale marks in the Cabrillo file.
K8CC
At 04:43 PM 7/27/02 -0400, Michael Gilmer wrote:
>From the Cabrillo spec, http://www.kkn.net/~trey/cabrillo/spec.html
>
>
>CLAIMED-SCORE: n
>The claimed-score of the log submission, in integer form such as 1217315 or
>19113 or 12.
>
>
>It's redundant from a final score point of view, but if the robot can start
>posting "claimed scores" then this field has renewed relevance.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <K4BEV@aol.com>
>To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 3:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
>
>
> > In a message dated 7/27/02 11:12:56 Central Daylight Time, K4BEV@aol.com
> > writes:
> >
> >
> > > the Cabrillo format doesn't include that information
> >
> > I looked at a submitted log and didn't see the Claimed Score.
> > It IS there though.
> > SRI,
> > Don - K4BEV
> >
>
>
>
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>From lz4ax at psu.edu Sat Jul 27 21:40:12 2002
From: lz4ax@psu.edu (Alexander Avramov)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207271341.g6RDfphF003289@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <002e01c235cf$561dc850$0100a8c0@computer>
N2MG wrote :
>
> I don't think this is what makes a "membership" organization tick. ARRL
> sponsors the contests precisely TO attract membership. They don't have
> members so they can sponsor contests. In fact, there are plenty at HQ
who
> would rather not have contests at all.
>
> > I doubt if this is accomplished by penalizing non-ARRL entries.
>
> Since we're talking about lemonade, I'd say they don't penalize non-member
> entries, but rather, they reward member entries.
>
> I'm sure it's no small thorn in the ARRL's side that non-members expect to
> be treated with the same respect that members are. Can't really fault the
> League for that. And I really don't fault non-USA folks for not joining
the
> ARRL but I do fault them for expecting equal treatment (maybe that's the
> American in me talking?). Sure, ARRL "needs" as many DX ops as possible
to
> operate in their contests in order to make the contests attractive enough
> that folks will have fun - fun which will inspire some of these same folks
> to become members. If they ever conclude that fun-contests does not
equate
> to new-members, bye-bye (ARRL sponsorship of) contests.
>
> 73 Mike N2MG
Mike,
are you serious or ... just kidding ?
Alex LZ4AX/AA3AX
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Jul 27 22:23:16 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207271341.g6RDfrhF003292@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <002a01c235d5$8e9c2860$03010a0a@office1>
Gary,
Sorry to be so long to reply, out some LookOut, er, Outlook Express problems
all day.
I think the key disagreement we have is over the current level of available
technology and human interaction with it. I am simply not convinced that
the hardware & software technology exists today to permit the level of
automation that would easily permit a contest comittee to process thousands
of logs with minimal fuss. Let me stress that I specifically intend "exists
today." Next year, two or three years from now, things may change.
Now I have tremendous respect for the work that Trey has done with Cabrillo
and the various logging robots. These improvements have certainly made
sending in the log electronically both simple and a pleasure -- when
everything works right. But sometimes things don't... it cost me the WPA
section in the ARRL DX SSB contest a couple of years ago when the log I sent
in as Low Power got received at ARRL as High Power (changing me from 1st
Place LP to 2nd Place HP -- and that's very frustrating when you consider my
antennas are just a couple of verticals!). Even with the long lead times,
by the time I became aware of the error it was too late to fix it (and
that's not N1ND's fault, I should have checked it sooner). If we shorten
the entry deadline from 30/31 to 15 days, we decrease the amount of time
that errors like that can be caught and corrected.
Yes, there will be procrastinators (of which I'm a master) who will always
put off sending in the log until the last day or two. That won't change be
it 30 days, 15 days, or 5 days.
I also think you may be underestimating the problems of Internet access in
much of the world. I've heard privately from quite a few that this is
currently a major problem for some of the contest teams who activate some of
the rarer spots. Again, this is not going to be true a few years from now
(I hope) but it will be for the short term.
I know a few people are suggesting that some of the things done at WRTC
(such as real-time monitoring, if I remember correctly) be implemented in
the near future. This can be a major problem for quite a few contesters.
I'm still on a dial-up connection (can't get DSL yet and I'm not letting
that !@#%^&**$! cable company back in the house), and I'm sure I'm not the
only one in that boat. I'd sure hate to be told that in order to be
elibible for something more than a check-log recognition, I'd have to have a
24x7 high speed Internet connection in the shack. Right now, I'd rather
spend that money on antennas or radios than on a fractional T-1, ISDN, or
some form of frame access (all that's available to me now, and it's all
expensive). Again, the technology may be available, but at a cost that
many (perhaps most) can't afford.
Are people resistant to change? Yup. Remember the outcry over Cabrillo
when it was announced? Now it's a no-brainer.
One thing I haven't seen in this discussion yet are comments from someone
who is on one of the contest committees (or if they have, they haven't
overtly admitted to it! <g>). I'd still be interested in seeing comments
from someone involved in tabulating the results as to whether or not a 15
day turn-around between logs received and results published is practical.
I've been involved in a few local contests with tabulating logs (granted by
hand), and I know how much a pain doing "only" a couple of hundred are. I
can only imagine how much is involved with thousands -- but I'd rather hear
from someone who is currently doing it, especially with the tools now
available.
Now, one thing we will agree on is that the ultimate goal will be to shorten
the turn-around time from contest to results to the neighborhood of 4 to 6
weeks. I just don't see this as happening in the immediate future.
73, ron wn3vaw
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----- Original Message -----
Message: 6
From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
Ron, we agree on one point. We disagree with each other -HI. Although I
like the "for now" part :-) To your points:
1. Outcry: People hate change. We live with it and move on. This is no
different.
2. Yup, I'm that impatient. The technology exists. We should set a good
goal.
3. Uniques: Yup. There will always be question marks. Do the best we can.
4. Rest of world: I don't think it's the problem you and a few others
have voiced. I know of several stations that are rare that are club
stations. Internet access is not a problem. We're not always talking about
individual stations in some primitive, isolated area. Those are more likely
DXpeditions and my cruise ship analogy applies.
5. Encouraging others: I think "immediate" results-reporting provides
substantial encouragement. It's the immediate feedback or reward that
others have more lucidly described than I to which I refer. I agree with
those sentiments.
Good discussion, this. Whether it's 4 weeks, 6 or 8, in the end it's a
great improvement. I think we should do what we can to aim for 4 weeks with
a 15 day turn-in requirement, as Trey proposed. If we end up having to
delay it a bit with a contest or two for good reason, I doubt you'd hear
many complaints! (Hmm, well not from me anyway.)
Bedtime. 73 all.
Gary W2CS
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>From k5zd at charter.net Sun Jul 28 07:01:51 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207271153320.8970-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEFPDLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Good point. The best approach is probably to go for fast turn around of
results/writeup on the web site (for the participants who are anxious to
learn who won) and do a general interest writeup in QST hyping the contest
just before the running of the next one.
R
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Bill Fisher, W4AN
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 15:59 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
>
>
> I believe the most important aspect of getting the results out just before
> the next running of the event is that it serves to motivate people to
> operate again more effectively. IMO, the League would help their contests
> by delaying their printed results.
>
> When am I thinking about CW SS? Not in April.
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
>
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Sun Jul 28 03:36:24 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Log Checking
References: <200207270601_MC3-1-848-E994@compuserve.com>
Message-ID: <00a201c23601$18cdc180$772745cf@default>
Dave G4BUO brongs up an excellent point. He fears that everything will be
left to the computer software and nothing to a person reviewing the logs.
Again I can only speak for the CQ 160 Contests but the real objective of the
canrillo format was to have one standard format so all logs big and small
will be judged the same.
With the present situation this is nearly impossible as there is paper logs
and electronic logs is non cabrillo format. I do not have the resources or
time to key in the paper logs and even convert
the old format (CT, TR, and NA mainly). Owners of these programs owe it to
the contest community to get a later version that produces a cabrillo log or
use one of the converters and please get the summary info right!
As for log checking, the tools give me a list of dupes, bad calls, and
uniques for each contestant and the uniques goes even further to highlight
those that from the data base might be busts rather than uniques. I look at
the logs and try to reconcile the bads calls and possible busts. I assign
penalties not the programs. The biggest boon to me is the NIL (not in log
found). I also
check the Dx logs for correct state and this is an area where Dx stations
lose many points. I also get a report that warns me if the final score
before afjustments is more than 10% from the claimed score. I also look at
unique percentage. Any station with more than 3% uniques are reported and
those with more than 7% uniques are subject to penalty and disqualification.
This may be unique to the 160 meter band but even the best equiped stations
seldom have more than 3% uniques. The term unique was coined bty the
Directors of the CQ 160 Contests and this has been a standard since I
started helping Don in 1986.
The new software along with the cabrillo format is moving us to the point to
where the accuracy of the scores has improved dramatically. However
reporting the final scores only has a marginal improvement in our ability to
report the scores quicker. One or two months is the maximum possible.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From brianmiller at xtra.co.nz Sun Jul 28 22:30:07 2002
From: brianmiller@xtra.co.nz (Brian Miller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207271341.g6RDfrhF003292@contesting.com>
<002a01c235d5$8e9c2860$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <011001c23619$73b4b460$e24d36d2@default>
Hi all
I have been working with the Oceania DX Contest Committee on the 2001 results.
>From my experience it would be very difficult or impossible to guarantee the
>processing and
presentation of results for a MAJOR contest within 2 weeks. It might be
possible if
1. ALL logs are in the correct electronic format (a robot is essential)
2. NOTHING goes wrong with the robot process and/or software
3. NOTHING goes wrong with the log checking process and/or software
4. The log checkers and web presentation writers are able to devote ALL of
their time to the task -
not just a few hours during the weekday evenings and on weekends.
The above is a BIG ask!
Lets look for some improvements but we also need to be realistic.
I think 4 weeks is a reasonable submission period. We do not want to discourage
logs from entrants
who cannot make a 2 week deadline. Furthermore some entrants will require
additional time to review
and resubmit logs that have been rejected by the robot.
73
Brian ZL1AZE
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: CQ Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
>
> One thing I haven't seen in this discussion yet are comments from someone
> who is on one of the contest committees (or if they have, they haven't
> overtly admitted to it! <g>). I'd still be interested in seeing comments
> from someone involved in tabulating the results as to whether or not a 15
> day turn-around between logs received and results published is practical.
> I've been involved in a few local contests with tabulating logs (granted by
> hand), and I know how much a pain doing "only" a couple of hundred are. I
> can only imagine how much is involved with thousands -- but I'd rather hear
> from someone who is currently doing it, especially with the tools now
> available.
>
>From K7LXC at aol.com Sun Jul 28 09:33:58 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Porposal for new contest sponsors
Message-ID: <182.bbba91c.2a753eb6@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/27/02 6:11:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
w7ti@dslextreme.com writes:
> Having a contest sponsored by an organization ensures continuity
> over time, at least while the organization endures. To "take"
> the contest away from the organization and place it in the hands
> of volunteers who come and go guarantees the contest will
> fragment and disappear in a short while.
Methinks that one's chances of wresting away any existing contest from
its sponsor would be legally impossible. The ARRL and CQ OWN their events so
this is an idea with no future.
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Sun Jul 28 10:27:29 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
In-Reply-To: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEFPDLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJCEKEEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
I think the reminder article is fine as a reminder and as an enticement to
non-contesters to try their hand.
Personal contact might be more effective.
What's the percentage these days of electronic log submissions these days?
Pretty high, I would imagine. 70%? 80%? 90%?
Is there a way these days to get the e-mail addresses from the contest's
previous year's electronic log submissions and send an e-mail to them about
a week or two ahead of time to
(1) thank them for their participation in last year's contest (maybe
even
remind them of their score and placing) and
(2) to invite them to participate in this year's contest (provide dates,
times, exchanges, links, etc.)?
For the casual or newbie contester who happened to show up in a contest, it
might make the difference between being there or being a no-show. Isn't a
habit formed after doing something as few as two or three times?
73,
dale, kg5u
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sun Jul 28 16:03:18 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
In-Reply-To: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJCEKEEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Message-ID: <000201c23647$e8c52f90$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
A new class of spam! This may actually be interesting though... But if
you really want to try to drag in the casual guys don't just send
reminders to log submitters. Go collect all the calls worked in a
contest from the logs (maybe make that all calls worked more than
once??) and look up email addresses from qrz, buckmaster, arrl
databases, etc and try to get the guys that didn't get interested enough
last year to send in a log back on the air.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Dale L Martin
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 14:27
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
>
> I think the reminder article is fine as a reminder and as an
enticement to
> non-contesters to try their hand.
>
> Personal contact might be more effective.
>
> What's the percentage these days of electronic log submissions these
days?
> Pretty high, I would imagine. 70%? 80%? 90%?
>
> Is there a way these days to get the e-mail addresses from the
contest's
> previous year's electronic log submissions and send an e-mail to them
> about
> a week or two ahead of time to
> (1) thank them for their participation in last year's contest
(maybe
> even
> remind them of their score and placing) and
> (2) to invite them to participate in this year's contest
(provide
> dates,
> times, exchanges, links, etc.)?
>
> For the casual or newbie contester who happened to show up in a
contest,
> it
> might make the difference between being there or being a no-show.
Isn't a
> habit formed after doing something as few as two or three times?
>
> 73,
> dale, kg5u
>
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>From ve4xt at mb.sympatico.ca Sun Jul 28 11:24:01 2002
From: ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
References: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJCEKEEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Message-ID: <000201c2364a$fe9ee060$0100a8c0@joe>
Heck of an idea!
Perhaps the robot engineers could add a subroutine that compiles a mailing
list from incoming e-mail submissions that could then be used (in late Oct.
for SS, for example) to shotgun mail the previous year's participants.
Nothing gets me thinking CQP more than the individual mailings from AD6E,
and we all know how successful CQP is.
Oh, and Jim, how long till FQP?
In all seriousness, though, this represents the kind of marketing savvy that
contesting needs.
Well done, Dale.
Kelly
ve4xt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 9:27 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
> I think the reminder article is fine as a reminder and as an enticement to
> non-contesters to try their hand.
>
> Personal contact might be more effective.
>
> What's the percentage these days of electronic log submissions these days?
> Pretty high, I would imagine. 70%? 80%? 90%?
>
> Is there a way these days to get the e-mail addresses from the contest's
> previous year's electronic log submissions and send an e-mail to them
about
> a week or two ahead of time to
> (1) thank them for their participation in last year's contest (maybe even
> remind them of their score and placing) and
> (2) to invite them to participate in this year's contest (provide dates,
> times, exchanges, links, etc.)?
>
> For the casual or newbie contester who happened to show up in a contest,
it
> might make the difference between being there or being a no-show. Isn't a
> habit formed after doing something as few as two or three times?
>
> 73,
> dale, kg5u
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From g3xtt at lineone.net Sun Jul 28 19:12:18 2002
From: g3xtt@lineone.net (Donald Field)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Contest logs
Message-ID: <01d601c2365a$13eab2a0$52dc403e@field>
Another lively contest - I counted (from my own observations and the
Cluster) at least 189 IOTA groups active, so I suspect the actual number was
over 200. Conditions not too good, but the big multis were over 3,000 QSOs
at the end.
Logs have started to arrive, and I am already seeing a potential problem. I
have had several Cabrillo logs generated by CT, which were empty (no QSOs).
All that is in the file is a note saying CT doesn't support Cabrillo for the
IOTA Contest. I am surprised that people send logs without checking what
they contain but please, if you used CT, ensure you send a file with all the
required data (I believe the .ALL file should be OK).
73 Don G3XTT
IOTA Contest Manager
>From jfunk at adams.net Sun Jul 28 13:36:22 2002
From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] pre-contest e-mails
Message-ID: <004901c23666$88177d00$111b8ad8@adams.net>
K1TTT wrote:
""... But if
you really want to try to drag in the casual guys don't just send
reminders to log submitters. Go collect all the calls worked in a
contest from the logs (maybe make that all calls worked more than
once??) and look up email addresses from qrz, buckmaster, arrl
databases, etc and try to get the guys that didn't get interested enough
last year to send in a log back on the air.""
I actually did this the last two years for the Illinois QSO Party (coming up
October 20...mark your calendars....) and received a number of "Golly,
nobody ever invited me to a contest before" messages in return. The
sponsoring club, RAMS, has been good enough to send the logs to me after
they're done with them so I can do some analysis. If interested, check
their website: http://my.core.com/~jematz/rams.html
73, Jim N9JF
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Sun Jul 28 17:10:07 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #295 - 1 msg
References: <200207281603.g6SG3ohF011634@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <3D444F9F.F6BC08D6@tampabay.rr.com>
:-)
K4OJ
cq-contest-request@contesting.com wrote:
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> 1. Re: WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH? (Kelly Taylor)
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>
> Message: 1
> From: "Kelly Taylor" <ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca>
> To: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
> Heck of an idea!
>
> Perhaps the robot engineers could add a subroutine that compiles a mailing
> list from incoming e-mail submissions that could then be used (in late Oct.
> for SS, for example) to shotgun mail the previous year's participants.
>
> Nothing gets me thinking CQP more than the individual mailings from AD6E,
> and we all know how successful CQP is.
>
> Oh, and Jim, how long till FQP?
>
> In all seriousness, though, this represents the kind of marketing savvy that
> contesting needs.
>
> Well done, Dale.
>
> Kelly
> ve4xt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 9:27 AM
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
> >
> > I think the reminder article is fine as a reminder and as an enticement to
> > non-contesters to try their hand.
> >
> > Personal contact might be more effective.
> >
> > What's the percentage these days of electronic log submissions these days?
> > Pretty high, I would imagine. 70%? 80%? 90%?
> >
> > Is there a way these days to get the e-mail addresses from the contest's
> > previous year's electronic log submissions and send an e-mail to them
> about
> > a week or two ahead of time to
> > (1) thank them for their participation in last year's contest (maybe even
> > remind them of their score and placing) and
> > (2) to invite them to participate in this year's contest (provide dates,
> > times, exchanges, links, etc.)?
> >
> > For the casual or newbie contester who happened to show up in a contest,
> it
> > might make the difference between being there or being a no-show. Isn't a
> > habit formed after doing something as few as two or three times?
> >
> > 73,
> > dale, kg5u
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
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>From W1HIJCW at aol.com Sun Jul 28 18:02:32 2002
From: W1HIJCW@aol.com (W1HIJCW@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A Real Breath of Fresh Air
Message-ID: <c3.265b6453.2a75b5e8@aol.com>
Friends, Competitors, Colleagues:
A couple of recent posts on the line-score thread mentioned the proposals
produced by a working group of our contest co-participants. One in particular
caught my attention by implying that a 21 page document was too long for the
"attention-span challenged". That prompted me to go get and read the document.
AND BOY AM I GLAD I DID!
As a community, we owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to these people who are
clearly knowledgable and competent writers.
I urge any and all of you who are even remotely interested in contesting, its
future, and its visibility to go and get that document, read it, digest it
and think about it. And most of all to use it as blue print for constructing
and carrying out the publicizing of contesting to the larger ham radio
community.
The location of the PDF file is:
http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
Thanks to all the authors, it's a great job!
73 de Bill, W1HIJ/6
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>From wd3q at erols.com Mon Jul 29 02:27:44 2002
From: wd3q@erols.com (Eric Rosenberg)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020729010656.00a0f310@pop3.norton.antivirus>
My travel schedule has picked up considerably, and it looks like I'll
be off to places far and wide for the next 12 months or so. I'm
thinking that it might be fun to once again take an HF radio with me
once again -- I did this in the mid-1990's with a long-gone FT-890.
If I decide to buy a new radio for the road (I'm not there yet!), my
choices will likely be limited to the following four radios, two with
and two without VHF capabilities. All four radios have gotten good
reviews in QST, so it may be a matter of availability and price...the
TS-50 and K2 being at opposite sides of the range:
FT-100D and IC-706 MKIIG, both of which have VHF and UHF (no need to
take a 2m HT with me, too).
Elecraft K2 and Kenwood TS-50. Note I've never operated WRP, so the
thought of a using K2 is a bit intimidating.
Comments and thoughts are appreciated. Send them directly and I'll
summarize for those interested.
Thanks in advance and 73,
Eric W3DQ
Washington, DC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 29 10:00:48 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Russian RTTY - Claimed Scores 29Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207291600.g6TG0mc32277@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Russian RTTY - Claimed Scores 29Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cdma@simcom.ru
Mail logs to:
Russian RTTY Contest Manager
Yuri Katyutin, UA4LCQ
PO Box 1200
Ulyanovsk 432035
Russia
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOAB HP
VK4UC 294 2895 112 17 324,240
AA5AU 288 2190 77 18 168,630
WX4TM 193 1500 72 108,000
K4WW 150 1205 61 6 73,505 KCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOAB LP
PA5AT 289 1835 27 17 267,910
VE9DX 183 1445 86 12 124,270
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOSB/20 LP
F6FJE 190 1155 66 36 76,230
SV1XV 49 295 36 4 10,620
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOSB/20 QRP
WA6BOB 35 245 10 2 2,450
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 29 10:01:56 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IOTA Contest - Claimed Scores 29Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207291601.g6TG1uF32293@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IOTA Contest - Claimed Scores 29Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: hf.contests@rsgb.org.uk
Mail logs to:
RSGB IOTA Contest
PO Box 9
Potters Bar, Herts EN6 3RH
England
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
PI4HQ 1242 230 1151 276 24 7,464,006
OZ0RM(@OZ1ING) 1268 149 671 132 24 3,232,905 WWYC
K3WW 266 92 411 99 17 1,043,433 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)12CW HP
AA3B 341 116 0 0 7 346,956 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)12SSB HP
FM5GU 0 0 1210 129 10 845,982 The Pordenone Gangst
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)24Mixed LP
WN6K 59 37 65 46 16 130,476 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12CW HP
G4BUO 717 200 0 0 12 984,600
VE3KZ 537 111 0 0 12 415,251
F5IN 220 77 0 0 6 127,512 U.F.T.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12CW LP
T93Y 440 148 0 0 602,064 Sarajevo Contest Gro
F6IRF 308 137 0 0 12 448,812
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12Mixed HP
N2ED 363 64 100 64 8 472,059 FRC
VO1TA(VO1WET) 10 8 545 83 10 352,443
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12Mixed LP
G0MTN 288 66 382 133 12 942,066 WWYC
PA5AT 33 14 126 60 6 113,442
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12SSB HP
EA5DFV 0 0 528 95 10 381,900
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12SSB LP
W1DAD 0 0 220 102 12 219,096 YCCC
VE3BUC 0 0 63 40 2 29,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24CW HP
HB9CZF 507 213 0 0 18 1,065,213
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24CW LP
9A7P(9A6XX) 1011 244 0 0 24 1,840,980 WWYC
HB9ARF 339 140 0 0 490,140
W4SAA/P 748 86 0 0 21 340,560 FCG
KP4AH(WP3C) 512 63 0 0 13 169,344
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24Mixed HP
M6T(G4PIQ) 1125 168 1099 230 24 4,787,940
K9NW(@K9UWA) 548 146 534 135 24 2,473,362 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24SSB HP
VK2CZ 0 0 262 72 154,224
Operators:
K3WW AA3ZE,K3WW
OZ0RM OH3RM,OZ1AA,OZ1ING
PI4HQ HA1AG,ON4IA,ON5UM,ON6CC,ON6NL,PA7BT
>From tavan at tibco.com Mon Jul 29 10:31:28 2002
From: tavan@tibco.com (Rick Tavan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020729010656.00a0f310@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <3D456DE0.8000407@tibco.com>
Hello, Eric. The K2/100 is a full-power, high performance, contest-grade
radio. Its receiver is better than the "big rigs" including my own
FT-1000MP. The QSK is outstanding as is the transmitted voice quality.
You can turn the power down to QRP levels wth a front-panel control and
the 100w amp is bypassed completely so the rig runs fine off batteries
at 0-10w. It weighs 5 pounds, fits into a corner of your suitcase and
runs fine off a 20A switching PS. Customer support via an Internet
reflector, Website, support staff and the principals themselves is so
far beyond anything available from any other vendor that it is really in
a class by itself. It is a kit in the finest Heathkit tradition but the
resulting product quality is far superior compared to current
competition. For those who lack the skills, interest or time to build,
there are professional builders available to help out. In the field, the
K2 set records on every band when Team Vertical took it to 6Y for the CQ
WW CW 2001, a bunch of single-band QRP entries in the same room. Then
the 100w version came out and three of them made half the total Q's in a
record-setting multi-multi from the same location in the 2002 CQ WPX CW
driving various KW amps. It is rapidly becoming the rig of choice for
expeditions and is a pleasure to operate at home. There is really no
comparison. Get it.
I have no financial interest in Elecraft but I do know the principals
and admire them greatly. They have reinvented ham radio equipment design
and provisioning.
Have fun on your travels!
73,
/Rick N6XI
Eric Rosenberg wrote:
> My travel schedule has picked up considerably, and it looks like I'll
> be off to places far and wide for the next 12 months or so. I'm
> thinking that it might be fun to once again take an HF radio with me
> once again -- I did this in the mid-1990's with a long-gone FT-890.
>
> If I decide to buy a new radio for the road (I'm not there yet!), my
> choices will likely be limited to the following four radios, two with
> and two without VHF capabilities. All four radios have gotten good
> reviews in QST, so it may be a matter of availability and price...the
> TS-50 and K2 being at opposite sides of the range:
>
> FT-100D and IC-706 MKIIG, both of which have VHF and UHF (no need to
> take a 2m HT with me, too).
>
> Elecraft K2 and Kenwood TS-50. Note I've never operated WRP, so the
> thought of a using K2 is a bit intimidating.
>
> Comments and thoughts are appreciated. Send them directly and I'll
> summarize for those interested.
>
> Thanks in advance and 73,
>
> Eric W3DQ
> Washington, DC
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
--
Richard M. Tavan
TIBCO Software Inc.
3307 Hillview Drive
Palo Alto, CA 94304-1213
tavan@tibco.com
n6xi@arrl.net
650-846-5214 Office
408-896-0476 Cell
>From wx3m at comcast.net Mon Jul 29 19:15:24 2002
From: wx3m@comcast.net (wx3m@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] in depth score (and log?) analysis using a spreadsheet
References: <000701c234ba$785fc960$ab755142@fpfzqlga>
Message-ID: <00d601c23723$86f9dc20$6501a8c0@donchisholm>
I think the idea of web-accessible line scores is an excellent idea.
On the ARRL scores page(s), the ability to sort the scores that you view is
really great. However, I dislike the HTML/Java interface. It is capable and
user-friendly, I just don't like it, and really for only three (trivial)
reasons:
1. It will only display 25 entries at a time.
2. It involves a lot of data being transmitted and received over your
internet connection.
3. You can only view one "page" at a time, unless you open multiple browser
windows.
I have a cable modem (and a pretty fast one, at that), and many others do,
so maybe #2 is a weak reason. However, somebody with a dial-up (or other)
connection might be concerned about the amount of time it takes to transfer
data back and forth repeatedly.
All that aside, there is another way to sort and view the data, using a
spreadsheet. The forms that are output by the web-page are essentially a
spreadsheet, just formatted into HTML and displayed in your browser. The raw
data that this "utility" uses to generate the sorted displays is available
for download. You can then import the data from this file into a spreadsheet
(Excel). Once in Excel, you can essentially do the same thing that the
web-page allows you to do. However, because the data and the program
manipulating the data are resident on your machine instead of communicating
everything over the 'net, you can work faster. In addition, you can view
all the entries at once, instead of 25 at a time, and create multiple
sheets, each sorted with different criteria, for faster, easier, and more
comprehensive analysis.
Here is how I do it:
1. At the bottom of the DEFAULT scores display list, under "download current
selection (x-records):" right click on the link "tab delimited" and save the
file to your hard drive. The default filename is download.txt. NOTE: When
you view the contest results under their default criteria on the web page,
it is using the entire database, sorted by score only. You will get the same
download options if you enter criteria in the "SELECT ENTRIES TO LIST" or
"CHOOSE SORT ORDER" boxes, but if you have chosen something other than "ALL"
you may not get the entire database.
2. Open Microsoft Excel. You may have or use a different spreadsheet
program, but this is the only one I use and, therefore, the only one I know
HOW to use.
3. Choose FILE --> OPEN --> choose "ALL FILES" from the file types box, then
choose the directory and filename you downloaded from the ARRL web site.
(Remember, the default was download.txt.) Click "OPEN".
4. The next screen (Text Import Wizard 1 of 3) asks how you would like the
data/text formatted when it gets to the spreadsheet. Choose "delimited" and
"start import at ROW 2". Click "next". (I do this because ROW 1 is the
column headers. I really don't need to see them and it sometimes makes the
column widths weird. In addition, they are useless when sorting the data.)
5. The next screen (Text Import Wizard 2 of 3) allows you to choose the
delimiters in the file and to preview what it will look like. Under
"delimiters" check "tabs" and click "next". NOTE: This is because we
downloaded a "tab delimited" file. If we downloaded a "comma delimited"
file, we would choose that option at this time.
6. The next screen (Text Import Wizard 3 of 3) asks you to format the cells
(based on column) to accept the particular type of data in that column. Just
click "finish" and it will choose "general" for all of them. Numbers will
automatically be converted to numeric values and treated as numbers, calls
as text, dates as dates, etc.
You should now have a recognizable display of callsigns and scores. Save
this file as a Microsoft Excel Workbook (*.xls) using whatever name you
want.
To sort the results:
1. "Select" the entire sheet. This is done by clicking the blank box above
ROW 1 and to the left of COLUMN 1. The entire sheet should turn purple.
2. Under menu item "DATA", choose sort. Choose which columns you wish to
sort by, and in what order, then sort. I use descending, that way the
highest values are at the top instead of the bottom, and resemble the way
scores have been traditionally published in QST.
Voila! You can now sort and view the scores a lot faster than through the
web-based interface. In addition, you can create several sheets in a
workbook, each one being sorted by a different criteria. You can compare and
analyze very thoroughly, very easily.
To create multiple sheets in a workbook, each sorted by different criteria:
1. choose EDIT --> MOVE OR COPY SHEET...
2. check the box for "create copy"
3. choose which sheet you would like it to appear before (not very
important)
4. click OK
You now have an exact replica of the original data. You can choose to sort
this data by different criteria, so you can quickly switch between the two
for comparison. If you right-click on the tab (at the bottom of the sheet)
for the name of the sheet, you can rename each sheet based on its sort
order.
After the 2002 Michigan QSO party, I did this with my log for some analysis.
I created 5 sheets, sorted thus:
1. UTC
2. CALL
3. QTH
4. BAND then MODE
5. MODE then QTH
I was able to (at a glance) figure out how many times we worked particular
stations, sections, etc. In addition, I could check for mistakes (see
below).
I hope that somebody might be able to use this information to analyze the
ARRL line scores to learn about their own performance and improve it for
future contesting.
73
Don
WX3M
P. S. This can also be done on a Cabrillo (et al) log . . .
You can import it the same way, and sort by time, call, exchange, etc, to
analyze who you worked, where, when, how often, and so forth.
I suppose this raises an ethical issue, though. Those who subscribe to the
opinion that "when the contest is over, you cannot edit the log" would not
approve of this. However, I do not entirely subscribe to this school of
thought. If there is a 30 (15?) day period to turn in you log, then it seems
to me that the time is given to "check for mistakes" and clean it up.
The level of analysis described above is very useful for checking for
innocent keyboard boo-boos or other errors. For instance, after the 2002
Michigan QSO party, I had 20 separate files - one from each county W8UE and
I worked. I merged them all into one spreadsheet for comparison. I could
sort by callsign and make sure we got all of the QTHs correct. If we worked
AD1C nineteen times (which we did), but one of the times we logged his QTH
as MS instead of MA, it would be easy to spot and fix. This could be caused
by keyboard error or LID ears, but I think it would be OK to fix the
mistake. After all, my reference is my own log, created during the contest.
If an operator looks up a callsign on www.qrz.com to confirm a QTH, grid, or
other vital QSO information during analysis after the contest (or even
during the contest), s/he is using a forum outside of the contest and this
is, in my eyes, way beyond the spirit of honest competition.
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 29 12:59:12 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <3D456DE0.8000407@tibco.com>
Message-ID: <20020729185912.1360.qmail@web10502.mail.yahoo.com>
I have an IC706MKIIG and it works pretty good for such a small
package.
I use mine for mostly mobile contesting and I would suggest if you are
going to do any CW contesting that you get the CW filter. It's probably
not as good as the top of the line contest radios but I think it's the
best of all the small radios ( TS-50 etc...) that are out there....
73's, Jeff
--- Rick Tavan <tavan@tibco.com> wrote:
> Hello, Eric. The K2/100 is a full-power, high performance,
> contest-grade
> radio. Its receiver is better than the "big rigs" including my own
> FT-1000MP. The QSK is outstanding as is the transmitted voice
> quality.
> You can turn the power down to QRP levels wth a front-panel control
> and
> the 100w amp is bypassed completely so the rig runs fine off
> batteries
> at 0-10w. It weighs 5 pounds, fits into a corner of your suitcase and
>
> runs fine off a 20A switching PS. Customer support via an Internet
> reflector, Website, support staff and the principals themselves is so
>
> far beyond anything available from any other vendor that it is really
> in
> a class by itself. It is a kit in the finest Heathkit tradition but
> the
> resulting product quality is far superior compared to current
> competition. For those who lack the skills, interest or time to
> build,
> there are professional builders available to help out. In the field,
> the
> K2 set records on every band when Team Vertical took it to 6Y for the
> CQ
> WW CW 2001, a bunch of single-band QRP entries in the same room. Then
>
> the 100w version came out and three of them made half the total Q's
> in a
> record-setting multi-multi from the same location in the 2002 CQ WPX
> CW
> driving various KW amps. It is rapidly becoming the rig of choice for
>
> expeditions and is a pleasure to operate at home. There is really no
> comparison. Get it.
>
> I have no financial interest in Elecraft but I do know the principals
>
> and admire them greatly. They have reinvented ham radio equipment
> design
> and provisioning.
>
> Have fun on your travels!
>
> 73,
>
> /Rick N6XI
>
> Eric Rosenberg wrote:
>
> > My travel schedule has picked up considerably, and it looks like
> I'll
> > be off to places far and wide for the next 12 months or so. I'm
> > thinking that it might be fun to once again take an HF radio with
> me
> > once again -- I did this in the mid-1990's with a long-gone FT-890.
> >
> > If I decide to buy a new radio for the road (I'm not there yet!),
> my
> > choices will likely be limited to the following four radios, two
> with
> > and two without VHF capabilities. All four radios have gotten good
> > reviews in QST, so it may be a matter of availability and
> price...the
> > TS-50 and K2 being at opposite sides of the range:
> >
> > FT-100D and IC-706 MKIIG, both of which have VHF and UHF (no need
> to
> > take a 2m HT with me, too).
> >
> > Elecraft K2 and Kenwood TS-50. Note I've never operated WRP, so
> the
> > thought of a using K2 is a bit intimidating.
> >
> > Comments and thoughts are appreciated. Send them directly and I'll
>
> > summarize for those interested.
> >
> > Thanks in advance and 73,
> >
> > Eric W3DQ
> > Washington, DC
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> Richard M. Tavan
> TIBCO Software Inc.
> 3307 Hillview Drive
> Palo Alto, CA 94304-1213
>
> tavan@tibco.com
> n6xi@arrl.net
> 650-846-5214 Office
> 408-896-0476 Cell
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
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>From john-k1rc at juno.com Mon Jul 29 16:45:45 2002
From: john-k1rc@juno.com (john-k1rc@juno.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MSC Smart Keyer III vs AEA MM-3
Message-ID: <20020729.154545.-468455.1.john-k1rc@juno.com>
Hi all,
I have an AEA MM-3 keyer which is serving me
very well. (Has yet to give me any trouble in years
of contest and general use)
I was surfing around to see what was new out there
and came across the MSC Smart Keyer III.
Spec wise, it looks pretty comparable to the MM-3
and I was wondering what users think of the Smart
Keyer, and if it would be worth "upgrading" to
the Smart Keyer from the MM-3.
I've never seen any Smart Keyers for sale on any
of the swap pages, so can I assume the owners
are "hanging" on to the Smart Keyers as are
the MM-3 owners (like myself)?
Tell me what you think about either unit.
Thanks for your input.
73,
John K1RC
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>From pa5mw at home.nl Mon Jul 29 22:52:07 2002
From: pa5mw@home.nl (M. van Wijk)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020729010656.00a0f310@pop3.norton.antivirus>
<3D456DE0.8000407@tibco.com>
Message-ID: <01d201c23739$6b82e840$0b01a8c0@home.nl>
. It is rapidly becoming the rig of choice for
> expeditions and is a pleasure to operate at home. There is really no
> comparison. Get it.
I will second that!
'73 Mark, PA5MW
K2 #2036 (& FT1000MP + Inrad mods, filters etc.....)
>From TOMK5RC at aol.com Mon Jul 29 20:05:39 2002
From: TOMK5RC@aol.com (TOMK5RC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K5KG Recuperating
Message-ID: <15b.11ac2bec.2a772443@aol.com>
George, K5KG (J75KG) underwent brain surgery at the Mayo Clinic this morning.
The surgery was successful. He is awake and alert and complaining. He will
not be out of ICU for at least a day. When I get room information I will pass
it along. He will be in MN for the next ten days.
Well-wishers might want to drop him an email at GeorgeK5KG@aol.com.
Tom, K5RC
PS - He was not able to convince the surgeons to implant a Heil headset,
while they were boring a hole in his head.
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Jul 29 22:11:42 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
Message-ID: <3D45E7CE.1DA3B5DE@tampabay.rr.com>
FOR OVER A YEAR NOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT EVERYBODY GOES TO THE cq ww
SITE AND THERE IS NO REASON WHY I SHOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM...
This past I changed by browser for Explorer to Navigator and I still get
the following message
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.
when I try and go to
http://www.cqww.com/
...what the heck am I doing wrong - I haven't seen CQ's WW site in so
long I do not even remember what it looks like!
Can someone offer me a better answer other than "you should be able to,
everyone else can"
Thanks,
Jim, K4OJ
>From SunGodX at cox.net Mon Jul 29 20:28:12 2002
From: SunGodX@cox.net (Dennis Younker NE6I)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AEA CK-2 Manual
References: <20020729.154545.-468455.1.john-k1rc@juno.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c23770$c15f2c60$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>
Does anyone have a manual for an AEA CK-2 memory keyer? I would be happy to
cover copying costs, or perhaps someone has an electronic copy?
Thanks, Dennis, NE6I
>From k2av at contesting.com Tue Jul 30 00:29:00 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
References: <3D45E7CE.1DA3B5DE@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <002f01c23779$3f124e50$0500a8c0@swift>
That URL works fine on IE. Try removing the trailing "/", e.g.
http://www.cqww.com
Might be a Navigator-ism and is interpreting that as an FTP access to
root (/) at CQWW.
73&GL, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim White" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 9:11 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
> FOR OVER A YEAR NOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT EVERYBODY GOES TO THE cq
ww
> SITE AND THERE IS NO REASON WHY I SHOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM...
>
> This past I changed by browser for Explorer to Navigator and I still
get
> the following message
>
>
> Forbidden
>
> You don't have permission to access / on this server.
>
>
> when I try and go to
>
> http://www.cqww.com/
>
>
> ...what the heck am I doing wrong - I haven't seen CQ's WW site in
so
> long I do not even remember what it looks like!
>
> Can someone offer me a better answer other than "you should be able
to,
> everyone else can"
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim, K4OJ
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From ghoward at kent.edu Tue Jul 30 11:36:15 2002
From: ghoward@kent.edu (Geoff Howard)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PJ2 Stn Avail -- CQ/RJ RTTY
Message-ID: <3.0.32.20020730103554.0216cab0@pop.kent.edu>
Hi,
As a result of a cancellation, the PJ2 "Signal Point" contest station on
Curacao is again available for the CQ/RJ Worldwide RTTY DX Contest on
28-29 September.
Full details are available at http://asgard.kent.edu/ccc or from me by E-mail.
Thanks and 73,
- Geoff, W0CG, for the Caribbean Contesting Consortium
>From k4vud at hotmail.com Tue Jul 30 15:53:14 2002
From: k4vud@hotmail.com (Charles Harpole)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Sending in email Cabrillo logs--pffuth
Message-ID: <LAW2-F22mLng8FSZDhd000010d5@hotmail.com>
A nice ham converted my IARU contest logs to Cabrillo for me . I sent them
in by emai to IARUHF@iaru.org as per instructions.
First I got back an automated statement saying that the site was not
accepting such messages.
A little later I got another automated message from ARRL saying my log was
in there, but there are problems... the ROBOT does not accept the HQ
letters instead of numbers! This is way too much trouble, still, even with
help. I like to operate radios, not computers. A pox on the whole thing
today. 73,
Charles Harpole
k4vud@hotmail.com
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>From coopers at odl.co.uk Tue Jul 30 17:17:03 2002
From: coopers@odl.co.uk (Cooper Stewart)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
Message-ID: <4A590B1FC64ED511B46400B0D0E184F995460E@exchange.odl.co.uk>
I would report this to your ISP as a support call. There may be a local DNS
or reverse DNS problem with their DNS database. As you say, everyone else
will just report it as "It works for me". I've seen this before with
specific sites and we had to chase all the way to a corrupt DNS table in
Canada before we found the problem.
Stewart
GM4AFF/GM0F
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim White [mailto:k4oj@tampabay.rr.com]
Sent: 30 July 2002 02:12
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
FOR OVER A YEAR NOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT EVERYBODY GOES TO THE cq ww
SITE AND THERE IS NO REASON WHY I SHOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM...
This past I changed by browser for Explorer to Navigator and I still get
the following message
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.
when I try and go to
http://www.cqww.com/
...what the heck am I doing wrong - I haven't seen CQ's WW site in so
long I do not even remember what it looks like!
Can someone offer me a better answer other than "you should be able to,
everyone else can"
Thanks,
Jim, K4OJ
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CQ-Contest@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From VE3ZT at rac.ca Tue Jul 30 12:20:11 2002
From: VE3ZT@rac.ca (Paul-VE3ZT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020729010656.00a0f310@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020730111740.00bc6e80@pop6.sympatico.ca>
Anybody using the Elecraft K2 for mobile use as well?
73, Paul
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:37:42 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301537.g6UFbgk01024@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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HQ HP
S50HQ 4493 4185 416 24 11,710,400
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HQ LP
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
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USA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 23 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
K8LX 456 0 169 6 304,538
W7GG 362 300 44 9 265,742
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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USA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
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USA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 24 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 116 19 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 21 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
K9TM 901 0 109 13 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
AI9T 102 51 15,810
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
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USA SO CW LP
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
KV8Q 685 0 147 24 290,619
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
W4BCG 75 0 40 6 9,400 TCG
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
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USA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
K6XX 1264 247 179 23 1,030,682 NCCC
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 19 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
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USA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
K1HT 399 123 139 9 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 5 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
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USA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
OH/W7YAQ 273 27 107 72,653
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 13 10,701 SECC
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USA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
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USA SO SSB LP
NQ4U 0 235 49 8 81,498 TCG
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
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USA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
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Non-USA M/S HP
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
J75KG 1654 661 192 24 1,776,768 FCG
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
DF0RU 775 663 227 22 1,116,031 Berlin-DX-Group
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
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Non-USA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
UT7QF 1934 0 316 24 2,113,408
PJ2E(N1UR) 2211 0 198 24 2,067,034 YCCC
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 20 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
DH7KU 550 0 66 16 134,640 DK0UN University Rad
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
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Non-USA SO CW LP
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
OH/W6YA 770 0 159 354,570
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
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Non-USA SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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Non-USA SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RK4FF 1594 846 325 24 2,637,700
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
OL8R(OK1FCJ) 1187 598 249 24 1,560,981
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 23 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
UY5ZZ 991 304 123 956,032
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 15 463,606 HSDXA
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 8 402,327
XE2AC 225 598 90 8 257,760
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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Non-USA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
VE4YU 360 232 61 19 270,750
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 8 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
SV1DNW 132 58 84 12 43,008
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
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Non-USA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
DF1DX 141 114 92 13 71,300 RR DX
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Non-USA SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 23 2,342,130 Other (specify when
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
RN4LP 1505 251 24 1,175,433
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
FM5GU 0 1492 99 10 609,246
S57UN(@S52ZW) 430 27 5 117,432 SCC
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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Non-USA SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
SV1DKL 0 683 183 18 416,325
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
DL4RCK 286 72 8 98,412 BCC
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
DF0RU DH2UHF,DK3WW,DL1AXL,DL7BY,DL7UBA,DL7UFP,DL7UTM
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
W7GG K7ZUM,KC7TWZ,W7GG
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:39:50 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301539.g6UFdoV01033@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
W6YX 446 156 10 69,576 NCCC
W1GZ 252 112 10 28,224
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All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
VA3DX 388 147 11 58,200
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
W1ZT 373 134 10 49,982 YCCC
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 10 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
9A5W(@9A1A) 301 107 10 32,207
WB4EQS 259 124 32,116
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
AI9T 251 123 10 30,873
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K7ZUM 241 118 7 28,438 WVDXC
N1NB 240 105 8 25,200
K4PX 225 111 10 24,975
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
W4BCG 222 107 9 23,754 TCG
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
K6XT 213 98 9 20,874
W6ZL(BIGWAVE) 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
KD8FS 195 97 5 18,915
LP7H(LU9HS) 227 76 10 17,252
K3FH 176 98 9 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 7 14,964
IT9BLB 186 78 10 14,508 TIKIRRIKI CONTEST CL
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
K5AM 169 78 4 13,182
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
K1XX 161 78 9 12,090
IK0HBN 150 57 10 8,550
WB0O 110 71 2 7,810
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 3 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K9SZ 48 33 1,584
K6OWL 46 34 3 1,564
XE2AC 42 27 3 1,134
F6FJE 24 23 6 552
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
PA5AT 18 11 1 198
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
W1GZ N1MGO,WN1E
W6YX K6ENT,N6DE,W6ZZZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:40:30 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301540.g6UFeUY01044@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
KB8U 227 99 17 30,888
K3DNE 167 69 10 15,732 PVRC
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
K8CC 130 72 7 12,240 MRRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
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All SOAB LP
VE3KZ 126 66 9,570 Ontario VHF Associat
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
K0UK 2 2 27 6 Grand Mesa
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All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
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All SOSB/2 QRP
HS8GLR 218 9 20 3,924
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
E20MXA 127 4 7 1,016 HSDXA
HS0XNO 97 2 9 388
HS4BPQ/9 44 3 3 264 HSDXA
HS6MYW/1 58 2 4 232 HSDXA
HS5SYH 25 2 2 100
E20JPJ 25 2 2 100 HSDXA
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All SOSB/6 LP
K8KFJ 26 19 6 494
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 QRP
N3AWS 5 4 3 20
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:42:39 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301542.g6UFgdT01056@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
In State Rover LP
N4PN 676 75 400 57 20 20,876
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
In State Single Op LP
KN4Y 591 0 42 0 12 49,644 FCG
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NJ8J 43 7 21 7 3 2,604 SECC
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
In State Single Op QRP
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 2 15 SECC
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
Out of State Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
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Out of State Single Op LP
N4GG 78 10 64 10 9 12,284 PVRC
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
K8MR 52 4 39 4 4,644 MRRC
W4SAA 27 0 23 0 2 1,242 FCG
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
Out of State Single Op QRP
NJ4X/7 32 0 31 0 3 1,984
K8GU(@K8GU/P) 8 0 8 0 1 128 MRRC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:44:04 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IOTA Contest - Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301544.g6UFi4l01065@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IOTA Contest - Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: hf.contests@rsgb.org.uk
Mail logs to:
RSGB IOTA Contest
PO Box 9
Potters Bar, Herts EN6 3RH
England
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
PI4HQ 1242 230 1151 276 24 7,464,006
OZ0RM(@OZ1ING) 1268 149 671 132 24 3,232,905 WWYC
EA5KB/7 0 0 2425 180 2,380,860
K3WW 266 92 411 99 17 1,043,433 FRC
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Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
Multi-Op LP
N4C(@KO4PY) 700 105 117 55 23 839,520
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Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)12CW HP
AA3B 341 116 0 0 7 346,956 FRC
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Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)12SSB HP
FM5GU 0 0 1210 129 10 845,982 The Pordenone Gangst
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Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)24CW HP
G3TXF 1250 264 0 0 24 2,006,928
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Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)24Mixed LP
WN6K 59 37 65 46 16 130,476 SCCC
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Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12CW HP
G4BUO 717 200 0 0 12 984,600
NY4A(N4AF) 556 131 0 0 11 526,620 PVRC
VE3KZ 537 111 0 0 12 415,251
F5IN 220 77 0 0 6 127,512 U.F.T.
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Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12CW LP
T93Y 440 148 0 0 602,064 Sarajevo Contest Gro
F6IRF 308 137 0 0 12 448,812
OH6BG 324 72 0 0 12 172,584
VO1HP 190 32 0 0 11,656
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Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12Mixed HP
N2ED 363 64 100 64 8 472,059 FRC
VO1TA(VO1WET) 10 8 545 83 10 352,443
WB2YQH 108 48 117 73 9 303,831
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Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12Mixed LP
G0MTN 288 66 382 133 12 942,066 WWYC
RD4M(UA4LU) 183 72 136 69 12 432,306
EA5AER 195 41 193 71 12 325,248
PA5AT 33 14 126 60 6 113,442
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Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12SSB HP
EA5DFV 0 0 528 95 10 381,900
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Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12SSB LP
W1DAD 0 0 220 102 12 219,096 YCCC
VE3BUC 0 0 63 40 2 29,640
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Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24CW HP
HB9CZF 507 213 0 0 18 1,065,213
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Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24CW LP
9A7P(9A6XX) 1011 244 0 0 24 1,840,980 WWYC
LZ1PJ 690 180 0 0 21 977,400
S53F 790 139 0 0 24 744,345
HB9ARF 339 140 0 0 490,140
W4SAA/P 748 86 0 0 21 340,560 FCG
KP4AH(WP3C) 512 63 0 0 13 169,344
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Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24Mixed HP
M6T(G4PIQ) 1125 168 1099 230 24 4,787,940
K9NW(@K9UWA) 548 146 534 135 24 2,473,362 MRRC
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Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24Mixed LP
S51NZ 149 69 202 102 645,867
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Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24SSB HP
GM0F(GM4AFF) 0 0 1520 231 24 2,021,481
VK2CZ 0 0 262 72 154,224
Operators:
K3WW AA3ZE,K3WW
N4C KO4PY,N4YDU
OZ0RM OH3RM,OZ1AA,OZ1ING
PI4HQ HA1AG,ON4IA,ON5UM,ON6CC,ON6NL,PA7BT
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:45:24 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Russian RTTY - Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301545.g6UFjOM01074@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Russian RTTY - Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cdma@simcom.ru
Mail logs to:
Russian RTTY Contest Manager
Yuri Katyutin, UA4LCQ
PO Box 1200
Ulyanovsk 432035
Russia
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOAB HP
VK4UC 294 2895 112 17 324,240
AA5AU 288 2190 77 18 168,630
WX4TM 193 1500 72 108,000
K4WW 150 1205 61 6 73,505 KCG
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Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOAB LP
PA5AT 289 1835 27 17 267,910
VE9DX 183 1445 86 12 124,270
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Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOSB/20 LP
F6FJE 190 1155 66 36 76,230
M0BEX 119 705 57 13 40,185 CDXC (UK)
SV1XV 49 295 36 4 10,620
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Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOSB/20 QRP
WA6BOB 35 245 10 2 2,450
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:47:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301547.g6UFln001083@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in the summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
VE5RI 527 1214 41 40 24 818,424
KA6BIM 251 440 35 33 24 373,048 NCCC
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
VE7AVV 0 809 0 40 15 198,960 BCDX Club
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
K4BAI 181 22 0 0 27,632 SECC
K1GU 118 0 28 0 4 24,920 YCCC
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE5SF 416 562 39 39 18 579,696
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE7UQ 62 346 17 28 153,540
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VA6RA 1 180 1 24 39,050
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VA3WN 142 50 13 10 6 26,542
W0ETT 100 2 25 1 7 21,632 Grand Mesa
VE3ANX 116 2 23 1 3 18,240
W1TO 67 12 15 5 12,680 YCCC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
N4WSM 0 29 0 13 4,550 TCG
K1VU 0 38 0 10 3,380 YCCC
W4NZ 32 3 9 2 3,300
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
VE3XAX 334 114 37 24 208,864 U-VE Contest Club
WB6BWZ 26 13 9 4 8 4,862 SECC
AA0XJ 19 5 7 3 5 2,080
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
VE3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 56 41 6 9 12 9,870
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
KA6BIM KA6BIM,NT6K
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From rw9up at tck.ru Tue Jul 30 17:45:46 2002
From: rw9up@tck.ru (A.Polevik)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] looking for info
Message-ID: <000d01c237e8$8e186920$0dc8c80a@sotel.kem>
I want to subscribe a QST and other hams magazines, but cannot find any info
how to do it. Please help me to fined any site or so.
Best regards
Anatoly
RW9UP
Mail to: rw9up@tck.ru
www.rw9up.ru
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>From n2mg at eham.net Tue Jul 30 12:06:30 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] looking for info
Message-ID:
<20020730110630.28547.h010.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Anatoly,
QST/ARRL:
http://www.arrl.org/join.html
CQ Magazine:
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/
(Click "subscribe link" at far upper left)
Try searching the www.eham.net links database for
other organizations (RSGB, etc.):
http://www.eham.net/links
73 Mike N2MG
RW9UP wrote:
> I want to subscribe a QST and other hams
> magazines, but cannot find any info how to do it.
> Please help me to fined any site or so.
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From steve at oakcom.com Tue Jul 30 15:56:05 2002
From: steve@oakcom.com (Steve Maki)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
In-Reply-To: <3D45E7CE.1DA3B5DE@tampabay.rr.com>
References: <3D45E7CE.1DA3B5DE@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <i9odkugfib83823s0tubns5ll8piu3f22u@4ax.com>
K4OJ wrote:
>FOR OVER A YEAR NOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT EVERYBODY GOES TO THE cq ww
>SITE AND THERE IS NO REASON WHY I SHOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM...
>
>This past I changed by browser for Explorer to Navigator and I still get
>the following message
>
>
>Forbidden
>
>You don't have permission to access / on this server.
>
>
>when I try and go to
>
>http://www.cqww.com/
>
>
>...what the heck am I doing wrong - I haven't seen CQ's WW site in so
>long I do not even remember what it looks like!
>
>Can someone offer me a better answer other than "you should be able to,
>everyone else can"
Try this as a workaround:
http://209.1.5.209
You should see a list of sites hosted by jzap.com. Click on cqww.com.
Apparently these sites do not have their own ip addresses. This is a
relatively new style of hosting, so your browser must be a late enough
version to understand how this works. If you are in fact using a recent
version, then complain to your ISP.
--
Steve K8LX
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Tue Jul 30 15:25:44 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Sending in email Cabrillo logs--pffuth
References: <200207301602.g6UG2QhF021003@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <032901c237fa$aa281360$03010a0a@office1>
Charles,
What software are you and/or your friend using? I used CT 9.7 during the
IARU and had no trouble with either the generated Cabrillo file nor sending
it to HQ, even with the Hq letters. (I had a different problem with the log
that was my screw-up, and the robot took the correction without a hitch too)
73, ron wn3vaw
Name Barry Manilow's Greatest Hit:
(1) "Like a Good Neighbor, State Farm is There"
(2) "I'm Stuck On a Band-Aid & A Band-Aid's Stuck on Me"
(3) "You Deserve A Break Today..."
From: "Charles Harpole" <k4vud@hotmail.com>
To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Sending in email Cabrillo logs--pffuth
A nice ham converted my IARU contest logs to Cabrillo for me . I sent them
in by emai to IARUHF@iaru.org as per instructions.
First I got back an automated statement saying that the site was not
accepting such messages.
A little later I got another automated message from ARRL saying my log was
in there, but there are problems... the ROBOT does not accept the HQ
letters instead of numbers! This is way too much trouble, still, even with
help. I like to operate radios, not computers. A pox on the whole thing
today. 73,
Charles Harpole
k4vud@hotmail.com
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>From MTessmer at axxesstech.com Tue Jul 30 16:29:52 2002
From: MTessmer@axxesstech.com (Mike Tessmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
Message-ID: <EC2530260094D411A5E700A0C9D1C4C90131F723@AXXESSEXCH01>
I think most of us can agree that the searchable database, etc., that the
ARRL now puts on the web is a good thing....pretty cool actually! I would
have liked to have seen the scores and stuff remain in the magazine but I'll
adjust.
What I would like to know is if there are still plans to produce a .PDF-type
article for each contest, with all the line scores and stuff just like one
would find in the magazine, that I'll be able to print and peruse at my
leisure say, on an airplane or wherever?
73, Mike K9NW
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>From david.e.burger at au.pwcglobal.com Wed Jul 31 11:29:02 2002
From: david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com (david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Logging Software
Message-ID: <OFB32B5C4C.2E90D821-ONCA256C06.00836B6E@aap.pwcinternal.com>
A neat lo-cost solution is the MS Excel contest logger - it can log ANY
contest, and anyone with basic Excel intro skills, doing sorts and
subtotals will let you calc the mults, zero score dupes and points quickly.
My version automatically does dupe checking, prefix tracking, zone
tracking, QSO rates and US state tracking and of couse QSO count tracking.
I wrote it for the CQWW and WPX, but it doesn't do cabrillo (easily) - I
heard there is a VB answer to that out there.
My dBase 3+ logger works in native cabrillo and exports the two near
standardised fixed and variable exchange formats for the international
contests. It will log any contest, including IOTA, and will export a
logical IOTA style cabrillo file. The cabrillo exports suit IARU, CQWW,
NEQP, ARRL DX, Oceania, WPX, SAC & ARRL 10 contests.
I want to get these little programs up on a website somewhere - as I sure
many hams would like to use a basic logger without committing money to one
product (like me). If someone wants a copy of the code, happy to oblige. I
cannot help with providing the main Excel or dBase 3+, dBase 4, Foxpro etc
programs though. But there is a free-ware Fbase database engine (US
Fisheries of all places and the Hotel Fidelio reservations engine) which I
understand will run my dbase 3+ code.
Keep in mind these are very basic loggers, and although I'm always tweaking
them (one version has Florida, Texas, New England and Californai QSO party
mult tracking) - they would get you started.
David VK2CZ / VK8AA (k3hz@ieee.org)
Sydney/Darwin
>From k4ab at msn.com Tue Jul 30 21:09:17 2002
From: k4ab@msn.com (Larry Crim)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ "Expanded" Results
Message-ID: <DAV72vrx0twzCRIv7Az00023117@hotmail.com>
I hate to join in the bashing....but...
After trying to decipher the CQ homepage to determine where the "expanded"
results are located, I found there are No expanded results...'cept for station
ops.
Team contesting, top scores in active zones. zone leaders/single op aren't
there.
Oh, but they're "coming soon".
But I have my CQ hard copy issue in my hand.
Is the web supposed to speed-up delivery of results?
Results say no.
I'm disappointed.
73,
Larry K4AB
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>From sm4dhf at telia.com Wed Jul 31 21:56:56 2002
From: sm4dhf@telia.com (Goran SM4DHF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Phone results in CQ magazine
Message-ID: <001001c238c4$0ab6e8e0$d2c442d5@telia.com>
Hi,
just heard from a friend in W7 who got the CQ Magazine that my contest
operation
in CQWW Phone 2001 as TI2/SM4DHF seems to be listed as a winning score for
Europe on
15 m LP!!
I have no idea how this happend... the soapbox comment that is on the CQ
Internet page
is not what was in my cabrillo file either!
Trying to sort this out with CQ at the moment.
73 Goran SM4DHF
**************************************
http://www.sm4dhf.com/search.shtml
log search collection
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>From k3zo at verizon.net Wed Jul 31 18:07:08 2002
From: k3zo@verizon.net (Fred Laun K3ZO)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20020731142403.00b881a0@mail.verizon.net>
People are usually incredulous when I tell them there are 175,000 hams in
Thailand. Why don't we hear them on the bands, I am asked.
The answer is that about 99.4% of them are VHF-only hams. The barrier to
upgrading, interestingly enough, is not CW so much as it is the fact that
the guy who writes the exams for the Thai PTD makes the written exam
top-heavy on obscure facts like what does the Z-signal ZNN stand for, etc.
So the failure rate on the written exam has been rather high.
All this may be changing as the PTD's responsibilities, under Thailand's
new Constitution, are being taken over by a new commission similar to our
FCC, and in the process the Radio Amateur Society of Thailand, along with
Thailand's 75 provincial radio clubs, are being given more responsibilities
in the license registration arena. While this is costing the ham societies
some bucks, it also may open the way to getting more of these folks on HF
where they can fatten the contest logs of all of us, particularly the
long-suffering sixes and other left-coasters.
Champ, E21EIC, along with John, HS1CHB, promoted the CQWW VHF Contest in
Thailand this year and got quite a bit of participation. Champ is rounding
up the logs and helping the contestants to submit them to CQ. He is also
planning to propose the creation of a national VHF contest in Thailand to
better familiarize all the VHF'ers with contesting.
Champ has copied me on his log submission messages to CQ, and I have taken
the QSO list of just one log, that of DOMRONGSAK PATTAKARNGOVIBOON,
HS8GLR/9, who operated the contest from Songkhla Province in Southern
Thailand near the border with Malaysia. Here is his list of QSOs in the
CQWW VHF contest. Will the left-coast logs of the future contain something
like this?
HS9KYQ HS9LVI HS9LVY HS9LCH HS9JPM HS9IPP HS9KGW
HS9KFL HS9LLH HS9LVX HS9JRV HS9KJV HS9KTD HS8IJF
HS9FQG HS9KUW E21PC HS8BRC HS9JEF HS9JVL HS9KJM
HS9CEY HS9LJY HS9IZF HS9LLY HS9JWW HS9LQM HS9BY
HS9KML HS9KWK HS8HTJ HS9IZV HS9JZH HS9EWQ HS9KLH
HS9LCS HS9LQR HS8HZP HS8FOX HS9JWH HS9ERT HS9IYJ
HS9LRW HS9KTY HS9AGW HS9KNB HS9LST HS9LRA HS9KXV
HS8HOA HS9CKL HS9DNV HS9LWK HS9ILT HS9LNN E20RD
HS9HRY HS9ITP HS9KLR HS9KDI HS9KLP HS9KQO HS9VK
HS9LMI HS9CAK HS9EG HS9KDU HS9JYA HS9LLG HS9LLQ
HS9LMH HS9LWD HS6SML HS9KKQ HS9IUR HS9HDZ HS9KRE
HS9CVC HS9KRK HS9FFC HS9CLQ HS5VSY HS9KQR HS8DWY
HS9FPW HS9HXW HS9KJH HS9CUU HS9FLY HS9KAT HS9LPB
HS9GGD HS9KDT HS9LFH HS9BVF HS9KFJ HS9FOD HS9LAY
HS9JDX HS9LDO HS9HIW HS9HQT HS9INL HS9HUE HS9HPC
HS9LDH HS9GQH HS9LAE HS9GAZ HS9IGC HS9KKS HS9LPI
HS9LWR HS9JVX HS9LXK HS1AQU HS9JQQ HS9LHZ HS9LQC
HS9JZR HS9ZE HS8FNO HS9JYW HS9LRF HS9KYB HS8KHP
HS9LTU HS9IAJ HS9IYR HS9KZY HS9IBX HS9LVV HS8LCT
HS9LVQ HS9FZ HS9KFI HS9CFK HS9KXY HS9LVW HS8KAC
HS9KNG HS9EDW HS9FXJ HS9LRV HS9LET HS9JMO HS9LTJ
HS8KQS HS9CQB HS9LXY HS9AVD HS9CXZ HS9BKB HS8KPP
HS9LKM HS9LEZ HS9IHA HS9LEN HS9LWP HS9IPO HS8KMQ
E20LPI HS9AVE HS9CLR HS9LUM HS8GQA HS9LPG HS8JWZ
HS9HTN HS9LEV HS9INZ HS9LRT HS8IKZ HS9LXR HS8KDY
HS9LNM HS9HYQ HS9KKU HS9LFL HS9EPP HS9LUG HS9LSS
HS9PW HS5ORL HS9ZU HS9KTT
HS9KYG HS8JTO HS9HK HS9KTU
HS9LVZ HS8JVH HS9APZ HS9EUZ
HS8DHH HS8KAG HS9JDX
HS9IHQ HS8KNP 9W2DD
HS9LGM HS8AIM 9W2XM
HS9LLE HS8ABS HS9JRR
HS9KOJ HS8KBS HS9ITC
HS8IBN HS8HOH HS9YE
HS8LAZ HS8KLC HS9LPV
HS8JPN HS8KZK HS9KPQ
73, Fred, K3ZO
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Jul 31 16:04:08 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20020731142403.00b881a0@mail.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020731150127.00a7d660@pop3.eskimo.com>
We can only hope so.... :>)
Still won't make up for those Y'urpean mults tho.
73
dink, n7wa
(Pacific NorthLeft Coast)
>Will the left-coast logs of the future contain something like this?
HS9KYQ HS9LVI HS9LVY HS9LCH HS9JPM HS9IPP HS9KGW
HS9KFL ...........
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>From w9sz at prairienet.org Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20020731142403.00b881a0@mail.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207311748100.16810-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Fred Laun K3ZO wrote:
> People are usually incredulous when I tell them there are 175,000 hams in
> Thailand. Why don't we hear them on the bands, I am asked.
>
> The answer is that about 99.4% of them are VHF-only hams. The barrier to
> upgrading, interestingly enough, is not CW so much as it is the fact that
> the guy who writes the exams for the Thai PTD makes the written exam
> top-heavy on obscure facts like what does the Z-signal ZNN stand for, etc.
> So the failure rate on the written exam has been rather high.
>
That's really too bad. You'd think they'd get real. I have never in 35
years heard anyone use a Z-signal in ham radio.
Sort of like asking me as a photographer how to shoot Autochrome or make a
Bromoil. Chances are mighty slim that either will happen!
> Champ, E21EIC, along with John, HS1CHB, promoted the CQWW VHF Contest in
> Thailand this year and got quite a bit of participation. Champ is rounding
> up the logs and helping the contestants to submit them to CQ. He is also
> planning to propose the creation of a national VHF contest in Thailand to
> better familiarize all the VHF'ers with contesting.
>
> Champ has copied me on his log submission messages to CQ, and I have taken
> the QSO list of just one log, that of DOMRONGSAK PATTAKARNGOVIBOON,
> HS8GLR/9, who operated the contest from Songkhla Province in Southern
> Thailand near the border with Malaysia. Here is his list of QSOs in the
> CQWW VHF contest. Will the left-coast logs of the future contain something
> like this?
>
[snipped huge list of HS callsigns]
I certainly hope so!!!
73, Zack W9SZ
>From w7ti at dslextreme.com Wed Jul 31 20:08:31 2002
From: w7ti@dslextreme.com (Bill Turner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207311748100.16810-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
References: <4.2.2.20020731142403.00b881a0@mail.verizon.net>
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10207311748100.16810-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <bs5hkuojsc8voqj4n7nse20ae648f22kce@4ax.com>
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:51:50 -0500 (CDT), Zack Widup wrote:
>That's really too bad. You'd think they'd get real. I have never in 35
>years heard anyone use a Z-signal in ham radio.
>
>Sort of like asking me as a photographer how to shoot Autochrome or make a
>Bromoil. Chances are mighty slim that either will happen!
_________________________________________________________
Being a third world country, there are no doubt some agendas at
work we have little knowledge of. Having LOTS of hams with HF
privileges is clearly not one of their priorities.
Bill, W7TI
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Wed Jul 31 23:40:23 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
In-Reply-To: <bs5hkuojsc8voqj4n7nse20ae648f22kce@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207312231390.22472-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Bill Turner wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:51:50 -0500 (CDT), Zack Widup wrote:
>
> >That's really too bad. You'd think they'd get real. I have never in 35
> >years heard anyone use a Z-signal in ham radio.
> >
> >Sort of like asking me as a photographer how to shoot Autochrome or make a
> >Bromoil. Chances are mighty slim that either will happen!
>
> _________________________________________________________
>
> Being a third world country, there are no doubt some agendas at
> work we have little knowledge of. Having LOTS of hams with HF
> privileges is clearly not one of their priorities.
>
> Bill, W7TI
I guess that could be true. If you really want to prevent someone from
doing something while still giving the apparency that you want them to do
it, you can come up with all sorts of methods.
It is a shame, though. There are obviously many people over there who are
interested in ham radio.
Is Sudan in a similar situation? I know of big-time contest operations
taking place from many African countries now and then, but Sudan isn't one
of them.
Zack W9SZ
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Fri Jul 26 23:56:26 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (Bob Wruble)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] "Please copy..."
References: <20020626200729.12106.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com>
<001301c21d88$8670eaa0$dafc7243@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <004101c23532$591d6210$41c03d04@bobhome>
boy the crap that goes back and forth on this reflector is enuf to give a
Woodpecker a "headache! The 2% of worthwhile info is hard to stick around
for! de w7gg
---- Original Message -----
From: "James Neiger" <n6tj@sbcglobal.net>
To: <discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] "Please copy..."
> And by natural extension, the next step is to preface our CW exchanges
with
> a polite "please copy"? Give me a break, please.
>
> Jim Neiger
> N6TJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck" <discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:07 PM
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] "Please copy..."
>
>
> > Scott Nichols sagely noted that....
> > "I think, for many people, the "please copy" acts
> > as an instinctive "bridge"...." and also noted
> > "..It also seems a little more friendly..."
> >
> > K3FT opined.. What I learned from chatting with
> > the pros in this world is that even though the
> > guiding rule is 'A-B-C' (Accuracy, Brevity,
> > Clarity) when transmitting traffic, the all
> > important, yet intangible 'human factor' must be
> > considered.
> >
> > The insertion of the 'Please Copy...' prior to
> > the start of the message (on voice circuits)
> > helps to impart a small but valuable bit of 'the
> > personal touch' in the mix.
> >
> > Another purpose is to give the recieving
> > operators mind a chance to 'lock in' and be
> > absolutely ready to copy what follows. Even
> > though you know that the other guy is ready
> > because he responsded 'K3FT send your traffic'
> > and you start transmitting.. a 'Please copy...'
> > before the 'number xxx...' and the rest of the
> > preamble simply gives him a 1/4 of a second to
> > energize the brain/body to begin actually
> > writing/typing. The slight delay allows him to
> > move from the act of transmiting 'K3FT, Send your
> > traffic', put down the mic, ready his
> > pencil/fingers, and be absolutely ready to copy
> > whatever you send next.
> >
> > Regardless of how good you are, there is ALWAYS a
> > slight delay from the time you stop transmitting
> > your readiness to receive and your full
> > readiness to copy. The 'Please copy' allows the
> > human factor of a pleasantry to occur while
> > providing that needed delay so the reciever can
> > be assured of having all in place to copy.
> >
> > That is all it really is. What I was taught is we
> > strive for 'A-B-C' but maintaining a small bit of
> > 'human pleasantry' in the mix is OK.
> >
> > 73
> > Chuck K3FT
> >
> >
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:11:48 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQ-M DX Contest - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207011411.g61EBmZ24375@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQ-M DX Contest - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqm@srr.ru
Mail logs to:
CQ-M Contest Committee
Krenkel Central Radio Club of Russia
PO Box 88
Moscow 123459
Russia
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
N1XS(@K1TTT) 674 148 24 218,892 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SMixed HP
4U1VIC 1071 217 530,999
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABCW HP
TM9C(F5IN) 777 155 270,320
N4BP 450 102 17 116,076 FCG
KM5G 152 69 26,013
K9NW(@K9UWA) 157 64 25,600 MRRC
K5GN(@W5KU) 67 30 2 4,680 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABCW LP
OZ0RS 313 82 55,514
M/AB2E 220 88 14 41,448
XE1NW 116 34 10 9,044
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABMixed HP
LY2FY 905 158 319,318 KTU RC
UA9FM 206 67 6 38,592 UCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABMixed LP
9A7P(9A6XX) 349 103 5 78,177 WWYC
YL2PN 284 72 45,216 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOABSSB LP
PA3FGJ 156 62 20,150
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/20CW LP
I2WIJ 277 55 8 35,365 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
Operators:
4U1VIC DF5AU,DJ9AO,DL9NDV,JH4RHF
N1XS K1EBY,K1TTT,N1XS
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:12:31 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Anatolian RTTY - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207011412.g61ECVk24384@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Anatolian RTTY - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: ta9j@qsl.net
Mail logs to:
TA9J Ismail Cakmak
PO Box 34
36000 Kars
Turkey
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op HP
AL1G 132 1675 67 112,225
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op HP
N4BP 312 3760 128 12 481,280 FCG
VK4UC 205 3065 94 288,110
YL2KF 148 1680 97 7 162,960
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
F6FJE 255 2930 126 369,180
TA1BM 181 2530 9 278,300
SP8SW 202 2250 113 15 254,250 SPDX Club
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 168 2445 96 7:12 234,720 Chiltern DX Club
GU0SUP 88 1035 58 60,030
N1MGO 79 890 57 50,730
VE3BUC 64 900 42 3 37,800
VE9DX 32 420 23 2 9,660
Operators:
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:13:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Baltic Contest - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207011413.g61EDCm24393@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Baltic Contest - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: lrsf@lrsf.lt
Mail logs to:
Baltic Contest
PO Box 210
LT-3000, Kaunas
Lithuania
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All M/S HP
YL4U 176 139 5 321 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All M/S LP
ES5KJ 138 109 5 249
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO CW HP
TM9C(F5IN) 170 0 3 728 Union Française des
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO CW LP
YL1ZF 237 0 5 240 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO Mixed HP
8S5A(SM5AJV) 114 51 2,10 885 TOEC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO Mixed LP
LY3CW(LY2KZ) 131 70 5 203 Kaunas Technology Un
LY2XW 141 51 5 193
YL2PN 33 56 3 91 Latvian CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q hr Score Club
All SO SSB HP
ES5TV 0 203 5 209
Operators:
YL4U YL2CA,YL2CV,YL2CZ,YL2LY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:16:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ANARTS RTTY - All Claimed Scores 01Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207011416.g61EGQQ24407@localhost.localdomain>
2002 ANARTS RTTY - All Claimed Scores 01Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: ctdavies@bigpond.com
Mail logs to:
Contest Manager ANARTS
PO Box 93
Toongabbie, NSW 2146
Australia
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts Ms Cont hr Score Club
All SOST HP
9A5W 1045 12869 268 6 30 20,696,752 Croatian CC
IT9BLB 948 9664 235 6 30 13,628,640
PY0FF 464 12842 164 6 5 12,636,628 Araucaria DX Group
RN4LP 686 8842 205 6 30 10,878,060
YL2KF 740 7774 220 6 28 10,263,980 Latvian CC
AA5AU 582 9502 179 6 18 10,207,148
W2YC 570 10066 168 6 40 10,027,336 FRC
NR1DX 455 8158 127 6 16 6,271,096 YCCC
K4WW 345 6074 112 5 17 3,402,840 KCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts Ms Cont hr Score Club
All SOST LP
L44DX(LW1DTZ) 551 17467 158 6 16,558,916
PA5AT 540 4987 185 6 31 5,536,270
VE6YR 355 5754 124 6 4,282,776
VE9DX 330 5052 135 6 20 4,093,320
SV1XV 347 3805 136 6 25 3,105,280
W1TO 193 3241 93 6 1,808,578 YCCC
SP6EKS 197 3371 49 6 12 1,780,988
GU0SUP 300 2197 118 6 14 1,555,876
VA3PC 188 3442 89 5 14 1,532,290
WR5O 70 975 42 5 8 205,550
WA6BOB 78 1016 36 5 3 182,980
VA3NA 61 915 35 4 2.5 128,200
K3FH 51 676 38 3 4 77,064
W8RU 29 525 17 4 1.5 35,700 MRRC
Operators:
(none)
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 1 08:17:34 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU FD, CW - All Claimed Scores 01Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207011417.g61EHYV24416@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU FD, CW - All Claimed Scores 01Jul2002
Submit logs by: (see your national society rules)
E-mail logs to: (see your national society rules)
Mail logs to:
(see your national society rules)
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Open HP
S55A/P 1296 206 881,062 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Open LP
DK0WT/P(DK2GZ) 910 168 528,192
S58U/P 928 145 24:00 463,275
DL0KD/P 633 136 24 291,720 RR DX
DF0BK/P 667 120 24 274,440
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Restricted LP
GM3POI/P 1152 159 24 631,866 Orkney ARC
DL0UP/P 925 170 24 540,770 L11
G0RGH/P 535 0 24 2,268 Harwich Amateur Radi
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Fixed HP
F5IN 724 126 323,064 U.F.T.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Fixed LP
LY1DS 258 55 3 51,590 Lithuanian DX
YL2PN 100 30 3 393 Latvian CC
S52MY 5 21 1:00 105
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Open HP
VE3XAX 354 76 19 89,224 U-VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Open LP
S51JM/P 170 67 8:42 40,401
Operators:
DF0BK/P DL4SDW,DL4SDX,DL5SEJ,DL8SCG
DL0KD/P DJ5CU,DL1EKC,DL2EBH
DL0UP/P DL1EFD,DL1EFO
G0RGH/P G0DVJ,G0SCP,G3ZQU,G4AQZ,G4EYE,G4FTP,G4WHK,M0CGE
GM3POI/P G3MXJ,GM3POI
S55A/P S53Z,S55A,S56A,S57AD,S57NWT,S57RW,S57UKE,S58O,
S59KW
S58U/P S51VA,S51VI,S53AU,S57LO,S57RR,S59AV
>From w2up at mindspring.com Mon Jul 1 11:40:19 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Seattle, WA
In-Reply-To: <001801c22098$d367aca0$6501a8c0@toney1.al.home.com>
Message-ID: <E17P2M3-0000my-00@tisch.mail.mindspring.net>
And I'm going to be in Seattle (and Vancouver) around the end of
July, if anyone's interested in getting together...
Barry W2UP
On 30 Jun 02, at 19:47, greg and leann richard wrote:
> I am going to be in Seattle, WA starting July 3 thru the 8th.
>
> Any contestors interested in getting together for dinner?
>
>
> Greg K4NO
>
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Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From w7zr at citlink.net Mon Jul 1 11:11:24 2002
From: w7zr@citlink.net (Richard Zalewski)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Top Ten Switches
Message-ID: <003001c22122$7250d560$a224d7aa@N1>
I have two Top Ten switches available on eBay. Item #1363268794.
Thanks
Dick W7ZR
Price Reduced!!
Vacation or Retire Here
It's Paradise on the Beach
www.w7zr.com
>From kr6x at kr6x.com Mon Jul 1 15:35:49 2002
From: kr6x@kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones, KR6X)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [Towertalk] dead grass
References: <20020630.094808.-685039.0.K2QMF@juno.com>
<5.1.1.2.2.20020630103114.00b44728@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <028901c22147$4585dab0$963fca96@pacesetter.com>
This is usually accompanied by a "moisture barrier" presented by the
concrete base. Often it is enough to take care to water a little more
around the tower. When the concrete's "base" meets the soils "acid"
the result is salt, which can damage some vegetation even if
neutralized. In this case, extra watering is the answer.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob, N5RP" <N5RP@pdq.net>
To: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Cc: <k1ttt@arrl.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 08:40
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [Towertalk] dead grass
>
> > > > Is there something that leaches off older towers that kills grass?
> > > > I
> > > > don't remember it happening the first 10 years or so, but now on my
> > > > older towers I have been noticing that the grass is being killed off
> > > > on
> > > > the downhill side. These are all rohn 25/45/55 type towers. Is
> > > > there
> > > > something to stop it??
> ==========================>
> Alkalinity from the older concrete leaches out into the yard.
>
> You do not notice this at first. It takes a while for the leaching to have
> an adverse affect on the surrounding plants that might need a more acid
> soil condition.
>
> Apply acidifier to the surrounding soil.
> Same thing happens down here in the Southern USA to azaleas planted too
> close to concrete foundations of houses.
>
> The list is free to be surprised at this being one of my few sincere posts
> with a content of substance.
> File away if you wish to preserve same.
> Bob Perring
> ...........................................
> Amateur Radio Station N5RP
> mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
> N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>
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>From kcechura at umr.edu Mon Jul 1 08:06:10 2002
From: kcechura@umr.edu (Ken Cechura)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Icom 706 CI-V
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20020701070357.00bcd750@pop3.umr.edu>
has anyone used a butel IF2 yaesu/icom interface to control an Icom IC 706
(such as memories, rig control, etc. etc.)?
It says it'll work... granted, it will only work with a single radio,
versus the W2ENY version which will work on 4 radios at once....
any comments, hints, etc. would be appreciated.... I just don't want to
pay over 100 bucks if i can avoid it for the Icom brand interface.
thanks
Ken
||==============================||
// Kenneth R. Cechura, KC9UMR \\
// kcechura@umr.edu \\
\\ Station Trustee, KF9ART //
\\ Freq Amateur Radio Team //
||==============================||
>From k9la at gte.net Tue Jul 2 07:06:31 2002
From: k9la@gte.net (Carl K9LA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 and "early bird" logs
Message-ID: <3D218937.6090500@gte.net>
The IARU World HF Championship is right around the corner, within which
WRTC2002 is run.
Just a quick reminder to everyone that the WRTC2002 organizing committee
would like as many participants as possible to e-mail their contest logs
by 1800 UTC on July 14. These "early bird" logs will be used only for
log checking purposes related to the WRTC2002 teams.
There are incentives for doing this, and I encourage you to visit
www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm for the details. Any questions should be
directed to the WRTC2002 individuals indicated on the WRTC2002 web site.
Carl K9LA
NCJ Editor
>From roberto.soro at sia.it Tue Jul 2 14:23:30 2002
From: roberto.soro@sia.it (Soro Roberto)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MARCONI MEMORIAL ---e-mail problems---
Message-ID: <8160937F4F4CD111A93E00805FC1752909C03935@ntsiaexch.office.sia.it>
THIS NOTE COMES FROM MARCONI MEMORIAL MANAGER
IK6PTJ - Maurizio Fiorucci:
I just talked to him about the ik6ptj@qsl.net malfunction.
He was not aware, but now he is and he apologise and
will take immediate actions to solve this inconvenience.
Please QRX for a while and IK6PTJ will let know the contest community
about a suitable solution, may be either the old mail address
will work again or he will supply a new mail address.
Best 73,
Bob, I2WIJ (on behalf of IK6PTJ)
mailto:i2wij@qsl.net
http://www.qsl.net/i2wij/
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>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 2 16:07:53 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 and "early bird" logs
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12D7D@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
OI2HQ, Finnish Radio Relay League Headquarters station
will send logs within an hour of contest end to WRTC2002
organizing committee.
We will have a real All-Stars M/M effort with W2GD, K1CC,
N6TV, S56A/N1YU, UX1UA, N2NC, G4JVG, G4VXE to mention
a few of our oprerators.
OI2HQ is available in IARU2002 on all bands with several
stations QRV simultaneously.
73,
Jukka (OH6LI, OI2HQ organiser)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Carl K9LA [mailto:k9la@gte.net]
> Sent: 02 July, 2002 14:07
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 and "early bird" logs
>
>
> The IARU World HF Championship is right around the corner,
> within which
> WRTC2002 is run.
>
> Just a quick reminder to everyone that the WRTC2002
> organizing committee
> would like as many participants as possible to e-mail their
> contest logs
> by 1800 UTC on July 14. These "early bird" logs will be used only for
> log checking purposes related to the WRTC2002 teams.
>
> There are incentives for doing this, and I encourage you to visit
> www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm for the details. Any questions
> should be
> directed to the WRTC2002 individuals indicated on the
> WRTC2002 web site.
>
> Carl K9LA
> NCJ Editor
>
>
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>
>From okh.npi at gte.net Tue Jul 2 13:17:45 2002
From: okh.npi@gte.net (Rich Dailey, KA8OKH)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Icom 706 CI-V
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020701070357.00bcd750@pop3.umr.edu>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020702121345.00baee68@mail.gte.net>
>mments, hints, etc. would be appreciated.... I just don't want to pay over
>100 bucks if i can avoid it for the Icom brand interface.
I've got *maybe* $2 in my icom interfaces. They can each control up to 4 rigs.
Get a copy of the July '92 QST article by kg7sg, or go here -
http://www.plicht.de/ekki/civ/civ-sch1.html
Hope this helps,
Rich
---
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<http://home1.gte.net/web22jfw>
Kentucky QSO Party template files for NA -
<http://home1.gte.net/web22jfw/kyqso.htm>
---
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 2 09:04:11 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX CW - NA Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207021504.g62F4BY25420@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX CW - NA Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXCW@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA M/M HP
6Y2A 10297 1295 48 40,300,000 NCCC
WL7E(@KL7Y) 5065 1091 47 16,458,826
WC4E(@W1CW/W1YL) 5205 1095 48 13,995,195 FCG
AL7NJ 4467 1014 48 12,664,860 BCC
NY4A(@N4AF) 4371 991 48 12,232,904 PVRC
VC6X(@VE6JY) 4312 1052 48 12,060,000
W4MYA 4206 1000 48 11,255,000 PVRC
NE6N(@N2NT) 4098 923 46 10,686,494 SCCC/FRC
NR6O(@N6RO) 3716 969 48 8,563,053 NCCC
KX7M 3564 939 48 8,459,451 NCCC
WX5S(@W6YX) 3545 966 48 7,984,956 NCCC
NT6K 1706 3464 48 2,234,280 NCCC
AK3Z 504 335 7 457,275 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA M/M QRP
TI5N(@TI5KD) 3173 895 48 7,500,000 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA M/S HP
8P4A 5723 1064 48 19,020,064 Kiev Contest Group
NP4Z 4290 950 46 12,209,400 FCG
KT1V 3652 994 47 10,775,954 YCCC
WW4T(@W4AN) 3806 998 47 10,666,624 SECC
NO2R(@K2NG) 3223 937 48 8,265,277 FRC
KM4M(@K4JA) 3118 923 48 8,120,554 PVRC
KZ4DX(@N4TO) 3199 952 48 7,785,456 FCG
N0NI 2936 930 48 7,000,000
XM7SV(@VE7SV) 2425 813 40 5,725,959 BC DX Club
NM5O(@N5YA) 2674 881 48 5,604,041 NTCC
VE7GL 2046 761 48 4,588,830
NC7J(@W7CT) 1869 684 48 2,800,296 UTAH CONTEST CLUB
WX6V 1609 651 47 2,617,020 NCCC
KI7Y(@K7ZUM) 1613 565 43 2,440,320 WVDXC
NZ1U(@KB1H) 1232 635 18 2,004,695 YCCC
W4NJK 227 136 31 53,584 NCCC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA M/S QRP
N2ED 1537 655 24 2,749,035 FRC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(A)AB HP
K5KG 2227 806 36 6,347,250 FCG
K9NR 1567 598 33 2,335,788 SMC
WM6A(K6TA) 1108 516 22 1,345,728 NCCC
N4GG 923 501 26 1,250,997 PVRC
W5VX 1000 499 14 1,029,936
KD2HE 565 325 452,075
W3IQ 463 319 15 408,001 NCC
AI9T 375 963 262,899
KR5DX(K5NZ) 399 272 5 221,408 CTDXCC
VE7FO 125 113 37,968
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(A)AB LP
AB2E 705 402 24 682,998 FRC
VE3BUC 615 359 24 628,968
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(R)AB LP
K8KHZ 165 130 51,090 MRRC
VE3AGC 106 98 29,988
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(TS)AB HP
NR1DX 2291 746 36 4,809,462 YCCC
AG1C(N2GC) 1879 692 36 3,424,016 YCCC
VE1OP 1688 653 33 3,210,148
KZ5D 1811 715 34 3,058,770 Cajun Contest Club
N6CW 1524 650 30 2,372,500
N3UM 1331 582 25 2,071,338 PVRC
W4SAA 1224 552 34 1,821,600 FCG
W6TK 783 425 14 827,050 SCCC
KA2MGE 718 417 720,993
XM4YU(VE4YU) 620 355 19 607,760
K7XN 641 367 541,692 TOEC
WT9U 610 338 10 451,568 SMC
K0RI 449 304 14 327,408
K6III 370 286 12 249,964 NCCC
K6OWL 196 133 8 46,949
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(TS)AB LP
VE3XB 1256 539 36 2,081,079
NX6T(K6AM) 1360 589 35 1,801,162 San Diego Contest Cl
NA4K 1071 530 1,400,000 TCG
WD4AHZ 1103 514 23 1,387,286 FCG
N4CW/1 841 457 19 1,020,938 PVRC
KV8Q 864 425 33 867,425
N4YDU 734 403 17 792,701 PVRC
K8IR 652 393 27 642,162 BAY AREA WIRELESS
K7HBN 484 354 437,190 WWDXC
NO5W 646 322 36 411,838
N4VI 480 317 17 352,504 Grand Mesa
WV2LI(N2GA) 424 264 6 331,056 YCCC
XM6ZT(VE6ZT) 232 260 4 233,220
W4IDX 313 215 5 176,300 RR DX
KU3O 235 186 15 101,370 FCG
NQ4U 243 180 93,420 TCG
K8MR 78 69 1 14,973 MRRC
N2CU 77 71 1 13,277 Western New York DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(TS)SB15 HP
XM3ANX(VE3ANX) 1464 640 35 2,543,360
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(TS)SB15 LP
VE3MQW 506 379 509,755
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SO(TS)SB40 HP
VE3XAX 682 357 29 1,058,505 U-VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOAB HP
FM5BH 3532 843 36 8,623,890
K3WW 2790 768 36 6,501,888 FRC
KN1DX(K4ZW) 2831 788 36 6,307,940 PVRC
KU6W(N6MJ) 2864 866 36 6,233,468 SCCC
KT3Y 2679 798 5,980,050 PVRC
WC1M 2558 788 36 5,857,204 YCCC
KF3B(N3RS) 2589 765 36 5,780,340 FRC
K3CR(LZ4AX) 2507 793 36 5,687,396 NCC
W6XR(N2YX) 2480 747 36 5,423,220
N5RZ 2695 841 36 5,413,517 NTCC
NT5C(N3BB) 2648 828 36 5,286,780 CTDXCC
AA3B 2346 764 36 5,101,228 FRC
N9RV(W8LVN) 2433 713 36 4,601,702 SMC
K5YA 2231 776 35 4,423,976 CTDXCC
W5KFT(K5PI) 2260 794 36 4,366,206 CTDXCC
KR7O(N6TV) 2212 762 36 4,298,442 NCCC
KC7V 2199 758 36 3,988,596 Central Arizona DX A
K4RO 2174 752 3,922,432
KO0U(K0OU) 1680 678 33 2,578,434 Kansas City DX Club
WI9WI 1642 636 25 2,510,928 SMC
WR7HE(K7QQ) 1558 657 28 2,499,885 YCCC
K5ZD 1133 547 11 1,634,436 YCCC
KO7X(@KI7WX) 939 489 14 1,200,006 PVRC
K6NR 819 442 21 796,484 SCCC
KY4AA(N4GN) 812 445 9 785,425 KCG
N6HC 794 428 17 709,196 SCCC
K2UOP 633 378 16 670,572 PVRC
N6ZZ 624 376 18 519,256 SCCC
WZ7ZR(W7ZR) 617 331 13 407,792 WVDXC
K4LQ 422 337 13 373,396 FCG
NW6P(K6RIM) 627 326 13 344,908 NCCC
WB0O 459 300 5 326,700
K5YAA 384 273 5 284,466 OkDX
N3RD 377 263 4 270,101 FRC
K5TR 457 274 5 267,972 Boring Amateur Radio
AD4L 273 184 7 138,552 PVRC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOAB LP
NF4A(N4PN) 2156 781 34 4,353,294 FCG
XL3NA(VA3NA) 1808 668 36 3,871,060
KS9K(N4TZ) 1712 664 36 3,004,600 SMC
NZ8O(W8MJ) 1678 652 36 2,699,932 MRRC
N1UR 1440 605 36 2,326,225 YCCC
AA6PW 1399 569 36 1,869,165 SCCC
NK4A(NF4A) 1013 499 16 1,221,552 FCG
WA1Z 947 470 36 1,189,570
K1HT 821 455 15 1,110,655 YCCC
K4EU 810 475 20 1,046,900 PVRC
XE2AC 1019 418 20 1,023,264
VE3IAY 799 385 982,135 CRDXC
W1TO 636 354 18 635,784 YCCC
N7WA 716 401 30 565,811 WWDXC
VE9DX 377 377 5 479,921
KE1F 532 319 28 406,406 FCG
W3CP 429 296 20 405,520 PVRC
VA3XRZ 344 221 255,918
AE9B 404 289 10 243,338 Kansas City DX Club
WA6OGO 431 271 221,949
N1LW 280 209 151,525 YCCC
W4NZ 248 202 142,006 TCG
NR7DX(K7ABV) 260 207 7 129,582
WA6BOB 333 206 15 121,128
K7JWD 390 158 16 61,620
K3FH 138 112 4 38,752
AE0Q 113 84 14,952 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOAB QRP
KG1D(K1KI) 862 473 21 1,246,828 YCCC
WQ1RP(K1RC) 840 434 35 909,230 New England QRP Club
N7IR 725 411 36 711,441 Central Arizona DX A
VE3RSA 249 191 135,992
K6SE 278 198 10 120,582
N8VW 140 121 34,969 MRRC
AG0T 135 105 16 23,100
KC0W 100 91 8 17,199
N9AVG 56 50 4 5,650 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB10 HP
KW4CW(N4BP) 954 502 28 1,054,200 FCG
WO8CC(N9AG) 419 295 25 242,195 SWODXA
VO1MP 300 205 10 176,095
WW4M(W4ZV) 222 177 6 81,774 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB10 LP
KN4Y 323 210 25 112,560 FCG
XM3STT(@VE3STT) 24 24 1,416
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB15 HP
ZF1A(W5ASP) 2552 790 5,116,830 TDXS
K2VV(@K4VX) 1687 745 34 3,116,335
KC4D(K4OAQ) 1633 704 33 2,970,880
WZ1R(N1RR) 1352 632 27 2,222,112 YCCC
W5TM(W5AO) 1397 649 30 2,182,587 OkDX
K7UAZ(N4OGW) 1363 646 29 1,997,432
N8BJQ 1122 584 26 1,666,736
KM5G 1116 566 1,519,144 ozark contest club
KC5FU(N5QQ) 1033 561 23 1,330,824 NTCC
WS8O(W8GN) 353 254 12 222,504 NCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB15 LP
N6MU(@N6NB) 927 564 36 1,201,320 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB15 QRP
VE3HG 98 93 25,203
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB160 HP
K1VW 91 65 14 7,995 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB160 LP
VE3OSZ 73 51 11 13,923 CRDXC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB160 QRP
N6WG 15 10 11 150
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB20 HP
FM5GU 1882 698 28 3,459,288 The Pordenone Gangst
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1672 720 36 3,027,600 MRRC
XM7SZ(VA7RR) 1670 714 36 3,004,512 BC DX Club
WZ5V(K0EJ) 1501 672 29 2,404,416 TCG
NI8L(K8DX) 1026 470 11 1,332,920 NCC
VA7XX 583 172 4 100,276
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB20 LP
XM3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 645 372 21 608,220 SKY CC
NJ3K 405 265 208,209
W0ETT 281 236 7 150,804 Grand Mesa
XE1NW 166 122 13 47,702
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB40 HP
K0RF 659 367 20 812,905
WK4R(N2NL) 561 363 8 812,757 FCG
NU5A(K5GN) 589 340 12 720,120 TDXS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB40 LP
WK4Y 323 226 12 196,168 PVRC
W9SE 326 220 166,100 SMC
WS4NC(N4VHK) 161 132 16 62,304 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
NA SOSB80 HP
W7DRA 84 56 12 7,616
Operators:
3V8BB 4N1FG,S56A,YT1AD,YU1RL,YU7NU
6Y2A K2KW,KE7X,N6BT,N6XG,N6XI,W0YK,WA60
8P4A M0SDX,VE3DZ
9A7A 9A2ME,9A3OS,9A3TR,9A4BT,9A4PA,9A4RX,9A6DM,9A7V,
9A8A
A61AJ A61AJ,N2AA,S50A,S50R,S51RE,S52ZW,S53A,S53R,
S56JXX,S57DX,S57J,S58Q,S59AA
AK3Z A45ZN,AK3Z,K3LP,N3SB,WX3B
AL7NJ DK2OY,DL3LAB,DL4RDJ,DL6RAI,KL7RA,N1TX
AM6IB EA3AIR,EA3KU,EA5BM
CT7T CT1GFK,CT1GPQ,ON5UM
EA2AAZ EA2AAZ,EA2CLU
ES9C ES1DW,ES2NA,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,
ES5RN,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
F9IE F6BEE,F6FFM,F6FGZ,F8CRH
GX6YB G0WKW,G3TKF,G3XSV
KI7Y K5ZM,K7ZUM,KI7Y
KM4M K4JA,K9GY,K9JY,W3BP
KT1V AG9A,KT1V,NT1N
KX7M AD6E,KX7M,N6KJ,W6NV,W6RGG
KZ4DX K1TO,K4LQ,N4TO,W4IR,W4QM
L75FM LU4FPZ,LU7AWP,LU8DW,LU9DAH
N0NI K0KD,K0RX,N0AV,N0NI
N2ED K2AF,KC2BMG,N2ED
NC7J K7CO,NG7M,W7CT,W7FB,W7WIK
NE6N N2NC,N2NT,N6RT
NM5O AD5Q,N5UM
NO2R K2NG,K2TW,NO2R
NP4Z NP3A,NP4Z
NR6O K3EST,K6AW,K6XC,KI7WX,N6BV
NT6K KA6BIM,KO6UW,NT6K
NY4A K2AV,K7GM,N4AF,W2CS
NZ1U KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
OL5T OK1DSZ,OK1DXF,OK1FHI,OK1KA,OK1QM,OK1TC,OK1WWJ
OL7R OK1VWK,OK1WMV,OK1XUV
OL8M OK1AY,OK1CM,OK1DRQ,OK1DX,OK1FCJ,OK1MR
OZ0XX OZ1BIZ,OZ3ZW,OZ5WQ
RM6A RA6AU,RA6AX,RA6CM,RA6CO,RN6AA,RN6BN,RV6YZ,UA6CQ
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TI5N CX6VM,N0KE,W1XE/0,W8QZA/6
VC6X TI2WGO,VE5FN,VE6BF,VE6EX,VE6JY,VE7AV,ZL1JG
VE7GL VA7AO,VA7OO,VE7GL
W4MYA K1SE,K4GAU,W4HJ,W4MYA,W4TJ,W4TNX,WU4G
W4NJK W4NJK,WB8TDA
WC4E K1TO,K4FB,K4OJ,N4GI,N4KM,T93M,W1CW,W1YL,WC4E
WL7E AL1G,KL2A,KL7FH,KL7Y,KL9A,WA2GO,WL7E
WW4T K4BAI,KU8E,W4AN
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6UFO,N6DE,N7MH,W1SRD,W6CT,W6LD,
W7SW,WX5S
WX6V K6LRN,WX6V
XM7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
YM3LZ LZ1UQ,LZ2CJ,LZ2FI,LZ2FV,LZ2HM,LZ2UU,TA3D
YT6A T95A,VK1AA,YT6A,YT6PSF,YT6T,YU1RE,YU6ZD,YU7EU,
YU7FN,YZ7DX
YT9X YT1RA,YU1JW,YU1UH,YU1ZZ,YU7BW
ZX3S PU3AGN,PU3LOM,PY3BM,PY3CQ,PY3FBI,PY3MM,PY3NZ,
PY3PAZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 2 09:05:36 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW WPX CW - Non-NA Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207021505.g62F5au25429@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW WPX CW - Non-NA Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 1, 2002
E-mail Cabrillo logs to: WPXCW@kkn.net
E-mail non-Cabrillo logs to: n8bjq@erinet.com
Mail logs to:
(see http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ for info)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA M/M HP
A61AJ 11008 1283 48 45,828,760 SCC
ES9C(@ES5Q) 7408 1163 48 18,438,202
9A7A 5539 1108 48 14,433,916 Croatian CC
OL5T 4874 1062 48 11,420,748
OZ0XX 3047 836 40 5,313,616
ZX3S(@PY3UEB) 1957 684 48 4,175,820 ARB/PY3MHZ
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA M/M LP
SK5EW 1895 661 40 2,619,543 TOEC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA M/S HP
3V8BB 5261 1076 48 19,649,912 YU CC
YM3LZ 3570 890 47 10,660,000 Bulgarian Contest Gr
YT6A 4027 1056 48 10,287,552 SKY CC
AM6IB 4257 1070 48 9,688,520
L75FM(@LU4FM) 3097 887 48 9,081,106
F9IE(@F6BEE) 3455 983 48 8,403,667 LNDX
RM6A(@RN6BN) 3558 1025 48 8,005,250 RW6AWT
OL8M 3229 973 48 7,416,206
YT9X(@YU1AAX) 3340 933 48 6,825,828 YU CC
GX6YB 3281 818 48 5,502,686 Bristol CG
OL7R(@OK1KUW) 6143 895 48 5,497,985
EA2AAZ 1613 644 38 2,169,636
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA M/S LP
CT7T(@CT1EPV) 2491 768 48 3,866,112 Algarve Dx Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(A)AB HP
OR2T(DL2CC) 3064 947 36 7,433,003
OE2S(OE2VEL) 2560 873 36 5,325,300 BCC
LY2CY 2059 777 36 3,658,116 Lithuanian DX
DF3IAL 1706 729 36 2,921,832 BCC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1500 637 26 1,887,431
YL8M(YL2KL) 735 384 7 752,640 Latvian CC
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(A)AB LP
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 1505 583 32 1,853,940
S57UN(@S52ZW) 1146 582 36 1,463,730 SCC
OR4APU 712 420 24 529,200
M6T(G4PIQ) 350 247 5 196,859 Martlesham DX & CG
DL6LAU 247 171 101,061 BCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(A)SB15 HP
OR4ATW(ON4ATW) 952 506 963,424
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(R)AB LP
YT1LT 1234 536 33 1,494,368
YZ1KA 917 454 30 850,342 YU CC
PY2DEZ 27 27 1,809 TuPY DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(TS)AB HP
JY9NX(JM1CAX) 3863 838 36 10,293,154 Pretoria Contest Clu
PJ4M(K2QM) 2187 688 36 5,574,176 FRC
8S5A(SM5AJV) 2621 784 36 4,241,440 TOEC
RW4PL 1615 634 28 2,074,448
HB9CZF 880 461 22 1,004,058
OE8CIQ 969 451 17 782,936 BCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(TS)AB LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 2178 640 34 4,444,160 Chiltern DX Club
9A0DX(9A3PA) 2110 711 3,412,800 Croatian CC
AN7GTF(EA7GTF) 2192 718 36 3,405,474
YL4U(YL2KL) 1423 653 24 1,892,394 Latvian CC
OM6RM 1021 452 30 987,620
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(TS)SB10 HP
DK2GZ 701 424 25 524,488 BCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(TS)SB20 LP
IR2V(I2WIJ) 560 359 10 403,516 MARCONI CONTEST CLUB
PA0JED 376 310 10 217,620
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(TS)SB40 HP
M0TTT 1223 541 30 2,004,405
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SO(TS)SB80 HP
OH3XR 431 252 8 245,700 CCF
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOAB HP
P41P(K0DQ) 3932 937 36 12,833,152 SECC
P40Y(AE6Y) 3625 901 36 11,059,775 NCCC
PJ2U(K6LA) 3053 814 36 9,362,628 SCCC
SN7Q(SP7GIQ) 3118 869 36 6,878,000
DF3CB(LY1DS) 3198 864 36 6,670,080 BCC
3G1X(XQ1IDM) 2503 751 36 6,429,311
TM9C(F5IN) 2622 745 36 4,420,830 U.F.T.
J41YM(OK1YM) 2746 805 36 4,400,935
OE1A(OE1EMS) 2397 781 34 4,397,811
DF0FS(DL1EKC) 1586 590 36 1,885,050 RR DX
DJ6QT 1099 556 30 1,355,528 RR DX
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 1008 481 24 1,220,778
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOAB LP
PX2W(PY2YU) 2979 821 35 8,010,497
WP3C 2132 701 35 4,121,880
OK2PP 2205 759 36 3,645,477 FCC
YL/RZ3BY(@YL2KF) 2210 701 36 3,134,872 Latvian CC
SM5G(SM5JBM) 1661 629 36 2,161,873 TOEC
LA3BO 1660 628 36 2,114,476
M7W(G4IIY) 1728 574 30 2,005,556
DL4SDW 1451 593 36 1,825,847 RR DX
HB9ARF 1495 564 1,682,412
OZ8AE 1140 570 1,363,440
HA5UX/7 1068 524 1,309,476
F6IRF 825 436 23 755,152 Yota Sawe DX group
PU7EEL 509 318 569,856 Guara DX Group
OZ0RS 709 364 20 480,480
G4WFQ 533 319 16 366,850
EA1WX 359 263 8 193,042
S51NZ 262 204 112,608
PR7AB 149 116 66,816 Guara DX Group
YL2PN 100 84 2 17,808 Latvian CC
PT2AW 48 44 7 6,248 TuPY DX GROUP
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOAB QRP
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 1550 534 30 2,655,048
OT2A(JK3GAD) 897 494 33 943,046
9A7P(9A5AEI) 140 120 3 31,440 WWYC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB10 HP
HZ1AB(SM0CXU) 2305 669 27 3,783,195
OD5/OK1MU 1554 570 35 2,223,570
9H1ZA 1460 600 30 1,525,200
YZ1AU 1259 573 1,356,291 YU CC
SN8V(SP8LBK) 625 388 21 417,876
SP9W(SP9HWN) 340 268 17 170,448
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB10 LP
LT1F(LU1FAM) 1405 616 25 2,557,016
L51EXU(LW1EXU) 1333 578 2,281,366
OH3RB(@OPH3RB) 563 310 21 232,810 CCF
PR7FN 38 38 4,028 Guara DX Group
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB15 HP
PU3A(PY3DX) 2531 857 6,452,353 Araucaria Dx Group
9H0A(9H1EL) 2966 956 36 5,651,872
9K9O(9K2RR) 2191 761 34 4,632,207 KUWAIT AMATEUR RADIO
S56M(@S50Q) 2000 803 36 3,547,654 SCC
SN3A(SP8NR) 1652 730 34 2,736,040 SP DX CLUB
DK3DM 1573 732 34 2,618,364 RR DX
OH7M(OH4XX) 1551 682 32 2,200,000 CCF
OK2ZC 1288 627 36 1,731,774 OK DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB15 LP
OK1DDO 925 527 1,065,067
SP4DEU 761 473 22 801,735
PY8AZT 453 308 25 411,180 Uirapuru DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB160 HP
RN2FA(@RW2F) 1014 245 248,430
IK4AUY 123 88 9 21,648 MCC Marconi Contest
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB160 LP
9A3RE 272 165 12 90,915
LY2GW 132 104 27,144
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB20 HP
TA0/Z37M(Z31GX) 2134 746 35 4,474,508
OH4A(OH6QU) 1996 778 36 3,222,476 CCF
RJ9J(RA9JR) 1502 677 36 2,741,850 SRR
OK5W(OK2ZW) 1740 736 2,733,504
YL6W(YL2GD) 1809 735 36 2,516,640 Latvian CC
SP8GWI/8 645 340 536,180
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB20 LP
VK4DX 1026 554 26 1,687,484 Sarajevo Contest Gro
LY6A(LY2BM) 1250 629 36 1,465,570
S57Z 1120 560 35 1,199,520
SM7VZX 1070 560 1,163,680 SCC
T94FC 1086 549 34 1,112,274 Sarajevo Contest Gro
F5NLY 878 530 23 866,020 LNDX (Les Nouvelles
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Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB40 HP
YW1D(YV1DIG) 1083 536 23 3,419,144 Radio Club Venezolan
9A5E 1368 602 35 2,681,308 Croatian CC
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1271 549 36 2,117,493
HA8DU 1178 549 2,080,710
9A4X 1058 507 1,607,697 Croatian CC
OM0WR 946 475 21 1,371,800
ES4RD 721 378 701,568
TM1C(F6ARC) 500 331 6 581,236
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB40 LP
YZ1U(YT1UR) 894 471 30 1,163,370 YU CC
S53F 929 450 36 1,113,750
S54A 814 444 28 1,042,068 SCC
4Z8EE(OK1EE) 300 209 15 351,329 Czech Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB80 HP
Z39Z(Z32AF) 774 364 657,020 SKY CC
ZS4TX 101 60 6 35,820 Pretoria Contest Clu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Prfxs hr Score Club
Non-NA SOSB80 LP
OK2ZV 541 300 336,000
PY7ZY 204 159 190,800 ARAUCARIA DX GROUP
KH6DV 147 92 7 77,924
Operators:
3V8BB 4N1FG,S56A,YT1AD,YU1RL,YU7NU
6Y2A K2KW,KE7X,N6BT,N6XG,N6XI,W0YK,WA60
8P4A M0SDX,VE3DZ
9A7A 9A2ME,9A3OS,9A3TR,9A4BT,9A4PA,9A4RX,9A6DM,9A7V,
9A8A
A61AJ A61AJ,N2AA,S50A,S50R,S51RE,S52ZW,S53A,S53R,
S56JXX,S57DX,S57J,S58Q,S59AA
AK3Z A45ZN,AK3Z,K3LP,N3SB,WX3B
AL7NJ DK2OY,DL3LAB,DL4RDJ,DL6RAI,KL7RA,N1TX
AM6IB EA3AIR,EA3KU,EA5BM
CT7T CT1GFK,CT1GPQ,ON5UM
EA2AAZ EA2AAZ,EA2CLU
ES9C ES1DW,ES2NA,ES2RJ,ES5MC,ES5MG,ES5QX,ES5RAH,
ES5RN,ES5RY,ES5TV,OH1NOA,OH3RM
F9IE F6BEE,F6FFM,F6FGZ,F8CRH
GX6YB G0WKW,G3TKF,G3XSV
KI7Y K5ZM,K7ZUM,KI7Y
KM4M K4JA,K9GY,K9JY,W3BP
KT1V AG9A,KT1V,NT1N
KX7M AD6E,KX7M,N6KJ,W6NV,W6RGG
KZ4DX K1TO,K4LQ,N4TO,W4IR,W4QM
L75FM LU4FPZ,LU7AWP,LU8DW,LU9DAH
N0NI K0KD,K0RX,N0AV,N0NI
N2ED K2AF,KC2BMG,N2ED
NC7J K7CO,NG7M,W7CT,W7FB,W7WIK
NE6N N2NC,N2NT,N6RT
NM5O AD5Q,N5UM
NO2R K2NG,K2TW,NO2R
NP4Z NP3A,NP4Z
NR6O K3EST,K6AW,K6XC,KI7WX,N6BV
NT6K KA6BIM,KO6UW,NT6K
NY4A K2AV,K7GM,N4AF,W2CS
NZ1U KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
OL5T OK1DSZ,OK1DXF,OK1FHI,OK1KA,OK1QM,OK1TC,OK1WWJ
OL7R OK1VWK,OK1WMV,OK1XUV
OL8M OK1AY,OK1CM,OK1DRQ,OK1DX,OK1FCJ,OK1MR
OZ0XX OZ1BIZ,OZ3ZW,OZ5WQ
RM6A RA6AU,RA6AX,RA6CM,RA6CO,RN6AA,RN6BN,RV6YZ,UA6CQ
SK5EW SM3SGP,SM5IMO
TI5N CX6VM,N0KE,W1XE/0,W8QZA/6
VC6X TI2WGO,VE5FN,VE6BF,VE6EX,VE6JY,VE7AV,ZL1JG
VE7GL VA7AO,VA7OO,VE7GL
W4MYA K1SE,K4GAU,W4HJ,W4MYA,W4TJ,W4TNX,WU4G
W4NJK W4NJK,WB8TDA
WC4E K1TO,K4FB,K4OJ,N4GI,N4KM,T93M,W1CW,W1YL,WC4E
WL7E AL1G,KL2A,KL7FH,KL7Y,KL9A,WA2GO,WL7E
WW4T K4BAI,KU8E,W4AN
WX5S K0BEE,K6ENT,K6UFO,N6DE,N7MH,W1SRD,W6CT,W6LD,
W7SW,WX5S
WX6V K6LRN,WX6V
XM7SV VA7CW,VA7NT,VE7AVV,VE7SV
YM3LZ LZ1UQ,LZ2CJ,LZ2FI,LZ2FV,LZ2HM,LZ2UU,TA3D
YT6A T95A,VK1AA,YT6A,YT6PSF,YT6T,YU1RE,YU6ZD,YU7EU,
YU7FN,YZ7DX
YT9X YT1RA,YU1JW,YU1UH,YU1ZZ,YU7BW
ZX3S PU3AGN,PU3LOM,PY3BM,PY3CQ,PY3FBI,PY3MM,PY3NZ,
PY3PAZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 2 09:10:51 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RSGB Jubilee - All Claimed Scores 02Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207021510.g62FApJ25442@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RSGB Jubilee - All Claimed Scores 02Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 6, 2002
E-mail logs to: hf.contests@rsgb.org.uk
Mail logs to:
RSGB HF Contests Committee
c/o SV Knowles, G3UFY
77 Bensham Manor Road
Thornton, Heath
Surrey CR7 7AF
UK
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info (tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SCW HP
N2ED 78 12 2 3,900 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SMixed HP
GQ6YB 2209 83 24 916,735 Bristol CG
MQ5ZAP 2171 62 24 673,010
G4FAL 999 32 159,840
XM4VV 892 33 21 146,850
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/SSSB LP
CQ1CV(@CS6ARP) 567 55 12 155,925 Radio Clube Costa Ve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)CW HP
GQ3TXF(G3TXF) 1405 62 20 429,970
K6III 67 19 8 100 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)Mixed HP
LY4AA(@LY7A) 597 80 20 238,800
G4PIQ/P(@G4MRS) 300 23 3 33,925
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)Mixed LP
GQ4IIY(G4IIY) 616 22 9 67,760
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SO(A)SSB HP
VE7AVV 102 17 8 1,734 BCDX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOCW HP
9H1ZA 1885 75 706,875
GQ4ZVJ(G4ZVJ) 1202 65 24 390,650
G3LET 1190 63 23 374,850 HARC
GW3NJW 1152 51 21 293,760
GM4SID 848 45 20 190,800
N4BP 316 51 14 80,580 FCG
GQ5LP(G5LP) 450 23 5 51,750 Mid Beds Contest Ass
K2SX 120 27 16,200 YCCC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOCW LP
XM3IAY(VE3IAY) 168 25 21,000
RW3VZ 133 26 17,290
HB9ARF 150 20 15,000
AB2E 66 17 4 5,610 FRC
VE9DX 75 12 1 4,500
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOMixed HP
XM3EJ(VE3EJ) 1771 91 24 801,225
TI5/N0KE(@TI5KD) 225 44 10 49,500 Grand Mesa
SP9W(SP9HWN) 245 33 40,425
W4SAA 138 34 23,430 FCG
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOMixed LP
VE3MQW 224 34 38,080
ZC40DW(G0DEZ) 558 13 7 36,270 Eastern Sovereign Ba
LY2XW 224 30 33,600
K4OGG 143 20 13,800
GQ0DVJ(G0DVJ) 180 7 5 6,300
VO1TA(VO1WET) 386 8 6 1,930
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB HP
GS2MP(GM3WOJ) 1392 62 20 431,520 North of Scotland CG
GW0GEI 1044 48 15 250,560 Contest Cymru
XM3KZ(VE3KZ) 1021 42 214,200
GQ4BLE(GW4BLE) 711 39 138,645 Contest Cambria
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB LP
ZC40BS(G4KIV) 376 22 6 41,360
MQ5RIC(M5RIC) 409 8 16,360
9M2RPN(VK2CZ) 79 7 3 2,660
SV1XV 32 6 3 960
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSSB QRP
N3GXY 23 4 1 460
Operators:
CQ1CV CT1ERK,CT1ETE
GQ6YB G0HFX,G0WKW,G3TKF,G3XSV,G4FKA,G7ORR,M0AXF/EI3JE,
M0XXX
MQ5ZAP 5B4WN,M0TTT,M5ZAP
XM4VV VE4VV,VE4XT
>From rrossi at btv.ibm.com Tue Jul 2 13:34:08 2002
From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ron D. Rossi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] TRLog free version 1.06 fully supporting WRTC 2002
released...
Message-ID: <200207021634.MAA29058@johnpaul.btv.ibm.com>
Folks,
The latest version of TRLog Free has been released. TRFree Version 1.06
is based on the very latest TRLog Version 6.69 and is fully functional
except it only supports a limited list of contests. It includes full
logging support of WRTC 2002 including scoring and special
considerations for the "B" computer not being allowed to connect to a
radio. Cabrillo is not supported for WRTC at this time. The WRTC
committee accepts logs directly as a TR file (LOG.DAT).
A readme file with a detailed change history is included in the package or you
can read it at http://www.qth.com/tr/revhistory.html. Many enhancements have
been made in just the past few months, so the readme file is the best source
of documentation for them. Please e-mail me if you have questions.
You may download a copy at http://www.qth.com/tr.
Good luck to all the WRTC 2002 competitors!!
--
73 es God Bless de KK1L...ron rossi(kk1l@arrl.net) <><
Support Programmer for TRLog
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l
>From mjwetzel at comcast.net Tue Jul 2 17:25:17 2002
From: mjwetzel@comcast.net (Mike Wetzel)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 80 Meter Beam at W9RE
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.2.2.20020630101456.00b67200@mail.attbi.com>
Message-ID: <NCBBIPEKMKEIENBFHFHJMEPIFDAA.mjwetzel@comcast.net>
For all those asking about my 80 meter yagi presentation at Dayton, I have
finally finished the web page on it.
It is http://mywebpages.comcast.net/w9re/index.html
The 'hit counter' doesn't work yet and the numbers iding the pictures are
not aligned perfectly depending on your monitor. Other than that I think it
works.
Thanks for all the patience.
Mike W9RE
>From k8khz at comcast.net Tue Jul 2 19:23:41 2002
From: k8khz@comcast.net (Sean D. Fleming)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Club Callsigns
Message-ID: <000801c22217$1f01d080$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
Designs by ?2001 Stationery Heaven
I got this idea from another ham though wanted to check it out. If you and
other people such as a family member apply for a club call for a station
then you can contest with it. what license class does the station have or is
it of the control op at that time. and how would you use to file a score
with a contesting club at that time.
let me know your thoughts.
Sean , K8KHZ
http://www.geocities.com/k8khz
>From N6HC at aol.com Tue Jul 2 20:10:11 2002
From: N6HC@aol.com (N6HC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Sayre, PA
Message-ID: <6e.1eeac16b.2a538cd3@aol.com>
I'll be working in the area from July 8 to August 9, 2002. Any illustrious
participants on this reflector that reside in the area and wish to get
together with another reflector participant with similar amateur radio
interests?
73 Arnie N6HC
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>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Wed Jul 3 08:54:08 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (Timo)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ Italy
Message-ID: <000501c2224d$c5be3b80$bec5f83e@tklimoff>
I going to make "a backpack tour" in Italy 17 July - 26 July 2002. I am
visiting at least in Roma, Firenze, Bologna and Milano.
If any Italian contester wants to meet over a beer or cappuchino, please email.
73 Timo OH1NOA / OH0NOA
-----------------------------------------------------------
Timo Klimoff timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi oh1noa@qsl.net
http://www.oh1noa.tk
>From contesting at eircom.net Wed Jul 3 08:33:07 2002
From: contesting@eircom.net (Tim Makins, EI8IC)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Scandinavian Activity Contest 1998
References: <004701c2086b$354c2220$3aa9a5c2@host>
<017401c208a6$dd331120$a2c5f83e@tklimoff> <013e01c20939$fa974a40$31aaa5c2@host>
<00bd01c2093d$acde4ca0$8ec5f83e@tklimoff>
Message-ID: <005d01c2225b$84a88480$8ea9a5c2@host>
I have just received a photocopy of 1998 SAC results from the Log Control
Co-ordinator. If anyone needs to know their scores, I will be happy to pass
the information on, though as this is on paper and will need to be hand
typed to your reply, please don't ask for 'all European Results' or 'all
Swedish Results' etc. !
73s Tim EI8Ic
www.qsl.net/ei8ic/
HF and Budget Contesting
>From W3DMB at aol.com Wed Jul 3 10:04:13 2002
From: W3DMB@aol.com (W3DMB@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Club Callsigns
Message-ID: <16c.ff89f66.2a54504d@aol.com>
RE:Club callsigns....
Sean,
The class of license of the License Trustee of the club callsign determines
what class the club license can be used as without very awkward composite
callsigns such as W3UDX/NO3Q if the stations trustee is a General and the
operator is an extra and wants to operate in the EXTRA portions of a band..
If the Station License TRUSTEE is an Extra then the call W3UDX (for example)
would be used "clean" by all operators although the subband restrictions on
individual operators still do apply. Note: During Field Day this
restriction seems to be ignored by almost all clubs...
This is usually so difficult that most clubs try to have as trustee an Extra
class licensee, that way the "correct" FCC call is easier to use. According
to FCC rules, an operator is restricted to frequencies authorized by his/her
class of license unless there is a control operator of the higher class
present.
If a club has a 1x2 call (that was usually reserved for extra class
operators) and the club has a General class operator file to be the trustee,
AND the club is made up now of Techs and Generals with no Extra class
operators, then the club would still hold the 1x2 call (which would look like
an Extra class) but could not legally operate in EXTRA class subbands.
With the new exams that we now have it should not be difficult to find an
individual who has an Extra class license to be the trustee to avoid the
mess.
Jerry, W3DMB
Trustee - W3UDX (Butler ARA club license)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In a message dated 02-Jul-02 21:50:59 Eastern Daylight Time,
k8khz@comcast.net writes:
> I got this idea from another ham though wanted to check it out. If you and
> other people such as a family member apply for a club call for a station
> then you can contest with it. what license class does the station have or
> is
> it of the control op at that time. and how would you use to file a score
> with a contesting club at that time.
> let me know your thoughts.
>
> Sean , K8KHZ
> http://www.geocities.com/k8khz
>
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>From mfiorucci at bigfoot.com Wed Jul 3 18:25:06 2002
From: mfiorucci@bigfoot.com (mfiorucci)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Log for Marconi Memorial Contest HF
Message-ID: <001101c222a6$cc930d60$1601640a@olidata>
Attention!!
The mailbox ik6ptj@qsl.net not work!!
Please, used temporarily ik6ptj@yahoo.it for send (or resend!) the log.
Thank you
ik6ptj
Contest Manager of Marconi Memorial Contest HF
www.qsl.net/ik6ptj/marconi.htm
>From gm3woj at talk21.com Wed Jul 3 17:22:09 2002
From: gm3woj@talk21.com (Chris Tran GM3WOJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Callsigns for WRTC 2002 ?
Message-ID: <000901c222a5$a317f640$09bafea9@chris.tranbtinternet.com>
Hello all
Can anyone tell me when a list of the exact callsigns in the
series OJ1 - OJ8 which are to be used by the WRTC 2002
teams will be available ? (I want to make up some check
sheets for our GB5HQ station) In WRTC 2000, I think the
list of S5xxx calls was available several days before the event.
73
Chris GM3WOJ
www.gm7v.com
>From tree at kkn.net Wed Jul 3 10:35:26 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC-2002
Message-ID: <200207031635.g63GZQU08285@loja.kkn.net>
Fellow contesters-
As you all know, WRTC-2002 will be taking place during the IARU contest
coming up in about 10 days. A few of us get to go to Helsinki to enjoy
the party, but the rest of us get to stay home. However, that doesn't
mean we can't all be part of the event.
Your radio can help connect you to the fun. This is a great chance
to turn on your radio - tune around and find guys to work. Even if you can
only spend an hour or two doing it - this will be enough time to show up in
the majority of the WRTC competitor's logs.
To help recognize those who do this - the Boring Amateur Radio Club will
put together a web page listing all of those stations who worked at least
10 of the WRTC stations (with the special OJ previx). Simply submit your
list of QSOs to barc@jzap.com to be listed.
There are also other awards programs being sponsored by the WRTC committee.
You can find out more about them at http://www.wrtc2002.org/general.htm.
Let's all try to get on for a little and be a part of this great event.
I will have a guest op at my station (the ham formerly known as XE1/AA6RX),
but will setup a station out in the barn to work some of the guys with my
own callsign.
For most of the US, the best time to work these guys will be shortly after
sunset on 20 meters (or perhaps 15 if the sun gets some spots). Here in
the pacific northwest, the Europeans are VERY loud at this time and the
WRTC guys should be easy to find and work - even with a modest setup.
You might also want to hand out some QSOs to the "other" people in the
contest as well. The exchange is an RST and your ITU zone. Both modes
are used during the contest. You can find the full rules on the arrl.org
web page.
It might be almost as much fun as the Florida QSO Party.
73 Tree N6TR
tree@kkn.net
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Wed Jul 3 17:48:58 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Club Callsigns
References: <16c.ff89f66.2a54504d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3D232AFA.B56EE7F@directvinternet.com>
To add to the timely remarks from others, one other note is in order.
IF the callsign being used is NOT a club call, the holder of that call
MUST be present at all times.
Field day isn't the only place this rule has been ignored.
73
Ed
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Jul 3 11:13:47 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 03Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207031713.g63HDl626556@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 03Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Wed Jul 3 11:36:27 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Club Callsigns
In-Reply-To: <3D232AFA.B56EE7F@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <20020703173627.44167.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi Ed and others..
One correction... As long as the holder of the
Call being used has designated an authorized
CONTROL OPERATOR to oversee the operations, the
holder of the callsign need not be present at the
op. The control operator(s) MUST be present to
maintain control over the operation.
Beyond that.. the person who holds the callsign
may go away. Of course.. should 'situations
arise' the holder of the callsign AND the control
op will be responsible for dealing with the
fallout.
Of course, the privledges authorized the station
are only those in concert with the holder of the
call OR the control operator (usually they hold
the same class of license).
You are correct, absolutely, in your thinking
that the rule is violated all the time when a
Club will allow a Call to be used at and event
and the trustee/holder of the call 'goes away'
and does not have a designated control operator
present to act in their stead.
73
Chuck K3FT
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>From Bill at ng3k.com Wed Jul 3 16:21:00 2002
From: Bill@ng3k.com (Bill@ng3k.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Announced Operations for Sep-Oct 2002 NCJ
Message-ID: <3D23165C.27391.25FE003@localhost>
Fellow Contesters,
The deadline for Contest-related DXpedition announcements
for the Sep/Oct 2002 issue of the National Contest Journal
issue is July 20. This issue should arrive in your mailboxes
during the first or second week in September.
Now is the time to relate your Dxpedition plans for the Fall
CQWW DX contests, as well as the ARRL 10m and 160m
contests. Please get them to me prior to the July 20
deadline so that they can appear in the Sep/Oct issue.
You can complete a Web-based form at:
http://www.ng3k.com/Contest/consub.html
or you can E-mail to:
Bill@ng3k.com
including:
o Callsign to be used
o DXCC entity
o CQ Zone (for the CQWW contests)
o Entry class anticipated
o QSL route
o Your callsign and public E-mail address
o Operators + other information of likely interest
You can review what has been received to-date at:
http://www.ng3k.com/Contest/conasc.html
Thanks in advance and 73,
Bill/NG3K
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Wed Jul 3 19:00:11 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC-2002
Message-ID: <7c.2a55a99e.2a54cdeb@aol.com>
Tree,
Although it will be a serious come-down from the Florida QSO Party, Fred,
NA2U, and I will be operating from J75KG in the IARU contest. We hope that
all of the boys will take break from working the WRTC-OJ's and listen for us
to the south. We are good for a Zone 11 mult. We will be 80 thru 10 meters,
Inshallah.
73, George, J75KG (ex. K4FQP as in Florida Qso Party!)
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Thu Jul 4 05:05:51 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
Message-ID: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
QST QST QST
Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
Quack
Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
> Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
>
> Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
>
> Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
14.
> 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
14.265
> 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> 78720-0812.
>
>
>
>
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>From Bill at ng3k.com Thu Jul 4 07:28:49 2002
From: Bill@ng3k.com (Bill@ng3k.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
Message-ID: <3D23EB21.17556.33F0AD@localhost>
I wasn't going to do this again this year, but since
folks are sending me information I'm relenting. This
is the URL for my list of HQ Stations planning to be
active in the IARU HF World Championship 2002:
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iaru2002.html
If you have information relating to a HQ (or IARU
Administrative Council or IARU regional Executive)
station that's planning to be active and would like
to have it listed here, please send it to:
Bill@ng3k.com
Hope this information proves useful to some of you.
73,
Bill/NG3K
>From N5RP at pdq.net Thu Jul 4 09:15:27 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704081107.00b92860@pop.pdq.net>
At 04:05 7/4/2002 +0000, Rex Maner wrote:
>QST QST QST
>Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
>
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z
> Jul 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465, 21.365,
> 14.265, 7.265.
> > QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX 78720-0812.
==========================>
I think we should all get in there and work this special event setup.
Who knows what the certificate might look like.
Volleyball, anyone ?
Bob Perring
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Thu Jul 4 09:22:36 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
In-Reply-To: <3D23EB21.17556.33F0AD@localhost>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704081706.00ba1a68@pop.pdq.net>
At 06:28 7/4/2002 -0400, Bill@ng3k.com wrote:
>I wasn't going to do this again this year, but since
>folks are sending me information I'm relenting. This
>is the URL for my list of HQ Stations planning to be
>active in the IARU HF World Championship 2002:
>
> http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iaru2002.html
==========================>
I see callsign NU1AW listed,
and thanks to Rex,
we now know NU5DE will be in there, as well.
Does NU5DE count as a special multiplier ?
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Thu Jul 4 09:52:10 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJGEKLEFAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
There seems to be a lot of activity in those groups....
Check the sign I found on a highway outside Austin:
http://www.hal-pc.org/~kg5u/index.html
73,
dale, kg5u
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Rex Maner
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 23:06
> To: CQ-CONTEST
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
>
> QST QST QST
> Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
> Quack
>
> Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
> > Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
> >
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> >
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
> 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
> 14.265
> > 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> > 78720-0812.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Thu Jul 4 10:00:02 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704085405.00b3a198@pop.pdq.net>
Here is a clarification on the IARU headquarter stations status for IARU 2002.
===========================
>NU1AW is the IARU HQ station.
>
>This is what the rules say:
>
> Multipliers: The total number of ITU zones plus IARU
> member society HQ stations worked on each band (not
> mode.) IARU officials represent a maximum of four
> multipliers per band (AC, R1, R2 and R3).
>
>Last year W6ROD was the R2 station. So unless NU5DE
>is an "IARU officials" station, it doesn't count as a
>multiplier.
=========================
So,
Last year, you could work a ROD, and it counted as an R2 bonus mult.
NU5DE will not count as an IARU 2002 bonus mult, whether the op has a rod,
or not.
.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From W4EF at dellroy.com Thu Jul 4 08:31:42 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Michael Tope)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
References: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <102601c22367$860a49a0$6501a8c0@1800XP>
Sounds like we need a new category for these folks, Quack?
How about SOBN - single operator buck naked?
Of course in this category the problems associated with
RF in the shack take on a whole new importance :)
Elmer Fudd, W4EF..................................
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
To: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:05 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
>
> QST QST QST
> Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
> Quack
>
> Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
> > Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
> >
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> >
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
> 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
> 14.265
> > 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> > 78720-0812.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>From hwardsil at centurytel.net Thu Jul 4 16:14:23 2002
From: hwardsil@centurytel.net (Ward Silver)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
References: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <003301c2236d$7ba036e0$27d7fea9@mirage>
Good thing it's not an ATV or SSTV contest...
73, Ward N0AX
> QST QST QST
> Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
> Quack
>
> Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
> > Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
> >
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> >
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
> 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
> 14.265
> > 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> > 78720-0812.
>From w2up at mindspring.com Thu Jul 4 16:11:07 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
Message-ID: <3D24658B.11150.FF1B40@localhost>
Recently installed a new computer and having an odd problem.
When transmitting with the amp on, I get hum in my computer speakers
(Harman Kardon with a subwoofer and 2 tweeters), but only when my
stubs are switched in, and only on 15m. It's either coming from the
speakers' AC line or the connection between speakers, as the hum is
still there when not connected to the computer. I've tried ferrites on the
audio and AC lines, but that didn't help. Ideas?
Tnx,
Barry--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Thu Jul 4 17:45:33 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Press release #21: OJ call signs released
Message-ID: <01c22361$11bd1740$97c5f83e@default>
The call signs ( from OJ1-OJ8 prefix block) in WRTC2002 Contest used by 52
teams will be:
OJ1C OJ1F OJ1M OJ1N OJ1S OJ1W OJ1X
OJ2F OJ2H OJ2J OJ2Q OJ2V OJ2Y OJ2Z
OJ3A OJ3D OJ3N OJ3R OJ3T OJ3X
OJ4A OJ4M OJ4N OJ4S OJ4W
OJ5A OJ5E OJ5M OJ5T OJ5U OJ5W OJ5Z
OJ6C OJ6E OJ6K OJ6N OJ6W OJ6X OJ6Y
OJ7A OJ7C OJ7M OJ7N OJ7S OJ7W OJ7X
OJ8A OJ8E OJ8K OJ8L OJ8N OJ8W
You can download an Excel -checklist for the contest from:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/ojcalls.xls
Remember also our WRTC2002 Worked All New OJ prefixes awards and special
plaques + our special "Early Bird" prizes ( All e-mail logs submitted within 6
hours after the contest ends will participate in a lottery with special
WRTC2002 prizes), read full details: http://www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm .
WRTC2002 Organizing Committee
>From n5nw at n5nw.org Thu Jul 4 14:07:39 2002
From: n5nw@n5nw.org (Marty N5NW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A plane trip conversation from Dayton 2002
Message-ID: <001401c2237d$531b7df0$3339a8c0@dayton.hospiceofdayton.org>
Although I'm now local to Dayton, I had a business trip to take and found
myself at the Dayton airport for a 1:35pm flight Sunday afternoon after the
Dayton Hamvention, bound for Detroit. Probably 20 or 25 hams on the flight
(regional jet, capacity around 65 I'd guess). As we were waiting, the only
seat vacant was next to me. Who walks down the aisle?
Martti Lane, OH2BH.
Man, what an absolute stroke of luck. 45 uninterrupted minutes of
conversation with perhaps one of the greatest ambassadors of ham radio in
the world. I almost felt like I'd been granted an audience with the Pope or
something ... But here was a very down-to-earth guy genuinely interested in
a conversation with me. Very sincere, very genuine, and very easy to speak
with.
Martti spoke at the contest forum, and is currently organizing WRTC 2002 in
Finland. But on the plane, he spoke to me about the first WRTC in Seattle,
and the problems that were encountered that the Organizing committee was
trying to avoid 10 years later.
That led to a discussion of what good ham radio can do as ambassadors, and
how little the typical DXpedition (both general DX and contest) adds to the
local environment. He (like I) visited Albania. I made about 45 contacts.
He made several thousand contacts, and created 20 or so licensed amateurs,
and instituted the amateur radio system in the government of Albania. Even
the license document format (double columns, in Albanian and English) was
his creation.
He didn't say this to brag ... far from it. Rather, making a positive
impact on the locations he visits has become a priority. He was so taken
aback by the hospitality of the Albanian people, and how the experience
impacted him (and his son, who accompanied him). But since then, his
outlook on DXpeditions has changed. As he told me, DXers will never be the
Red Cross, nor should we be. But we (as a whole) need to examine ways we
can leave the areas we visit better than we found them. And not just with
our equipment. We have to also share our knowledge. And, hard as this is
to realize, we may have a little to learn ourselves. Martti freely admits
he got more from his experience in Albania than he left.
He spoke of his host family back in 1992, and the matriarch going about each
morning to gather the day's food from various vendors in the neighborhood in
which they lived. This same ritual occurred during my visit two years ago.
One shop for bread, another for produce, another for meat. Nothing beyond
that day, as preservation of foods is still quite difficult, and appliances
hard to come by.
But one particular morning, the matriarch returned with something special.
After asking around, she had located an egg. One egg. And as the family
gathered, they insisted that Martti's son enjoy the egg that obviously they
hadn't had in some time. Martti's son told him that was the most difficult
egg he had ever eaten. But the family did receive their reward ... they
enjoyed him, enjoying the egg!
He spoke of the Solomon Islands trip, and how they convinced the locals to
manufacture soaps and other materials from the native coconut trees. For a
$25 donation to the local cause, you got a commemorative QSL, rather than
the standard QSL. You got the card perhaps a few days quicker. But the
locals got the money. He expected to raise perhaps $4,000 to $5,000 and
ended up with five times that, through the generosity of the DX community.
I really didn't intend that this sound "preachy". But I hope we all begin
asking questions of the DXpeditions about how they have a positive impact on
the places they visit. I hope we demand our contesters who were selected
for WRTC also remember that they are ambassadors for amateur radio and the
USA, whether or not they want to be. The WRTC is an excellent opportunity.
Recall the US Hockey Team at the Nagano Olympics? They trashed the place
after a loss. They did not remember that they were not only competetors,
but also Ambassadors.
Other countries come to mind -- North Korea offers some real opportunities,
just as Albania did in 1970 when Martti first visited. It took 22 years,
but Amateur Radio is now established. And the Albanian regime was even
tougher than the current North Korean regime! Many inroads can still be
made in Southeast Asia, China, and the African continent. Ham Radio --
Ambassadors of International Goodwill.
Martti, thanks for sharing that plane ride with me. It has changed my
outlook on Amateur Radio, and how we might impact our world for positive
change.
de N5NW/8 (Marty)
Bellbrook, Ohio
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Thu Jul 4 14:17:30 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704081706.00ba1a68@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDMEHEELAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Bob, N5RP
> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 09:23
> To: Bill@ng3k.com; CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU 2002 Headquarters Stations QRV
>
>
> At 06:28 7/4/2002 -0400, Bill@ng3k.com wrote:
> >I wasn't going to do this again this year, but since
> >folks are sending me information I'm relenting. This
> >is the URL for my list of HQ Stations planning to be
> >active in the IARU HF World Championship 2002:
> >
> > http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iaru2002.html
> ==========================>
> I see callsign NU1AW listed,
>
> and thanks to Rex,
> we now know NU5DE will be in there, as well.
>
> Does NU5DE count as a special multiplier ?
> Bob Perring
The NU5DE QSL card is singularly unsatisfying, but still is an
item of interest in this shack!
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
>From nt5c at texas.net Thu Jul 4 13:34:33 2002
From: nt5c@texas.net (John Warren)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Life is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJGEKLEFAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
References: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJGEKLEFAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Message-ID: <p04330100b94a44b64cea@EIM-Mac-1.0.7>
>There seems to be a lot of activity in those groups....
>
>Check the sign I found on a highway outside Austin:
>
>http://www.hal-pc.org/~kg5u/index.html
>
>73,
>dale, kg5u
...or our favorite bumper sticker: KEEP AUSTIN WEIRD
73, John, NT5C.
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Thu Jul 4 14:40:55 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NU5DE and Operating Style
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.2.2.20020704081706.00ba1a68@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDGEHFELAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
All the NU5DE conversation brings to mind the cartoon I
found recently.
http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/images/CasualFriday.jpg
Given that *I* am a telecommuter, and the temperature in my
workspace has been over 90 degF for many hours each day
over the past week, this image resonates!
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Jul 4 12:30:43 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Supporting The WRTC- AKA working the OJ's
References: <200207041602.g64G2uKF003669@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <034d01c2236f$c2ef4d40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
I agree, we all should make an effort to participate in the Radiosport next
weekend...and a little extrat effort be made to target band times favourable
for northern European QSOs...Radiosport is a fun contest - short enough to
do the full stint even for us old guys! It is a simple exchange (justy
remember it is your ITU NOT your CQ zone you are sneding...see ARRL web page
for the list of ITU zones)
Work as many calls with OJ in them as possible on as many different bands as
possible, that is ALWAYS a good philosophy...except for SS :-)
I slightly disagree with N6TR about whether or not the Radiosport will be as
much fun as the Florida QSO Party - they do share a lot in common...
You will be working some of the finest operators in the world - and - you
will be working members of the Florida Contest Group, too!
9 days 'til WRTC and Radiosport 2,002!
Good luck also to the W1AW/5 crew...go team USA!
73,
K4 OJ
(aka operator K4FCG in the one and only Florida QSO Party)
>From nt5c at texas.net Thu Jul 4 14:18:14 2002
From: nt5c@texas.net (John Warren)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Life is stranger than fiction
Message-ID: <p04330101b94a4fd0e8a1@EIM-Mac-1.0.7>
>There seems to be a lot of activity in those groups....
>
>Check the sign I found on a highway outside Austin:
>
>http://www.hal-pc.org/~kg5u/index.html
>
>73,
>dale, kg5u
...or our favorite bumper sticker: KEEP AUSTIN WEIRD
73, John, NT5C.
>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Thu Jul 4 20:04:58 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] GW7X QSLs
Message-ID: <VA.00000190.0085307b@gw3njw>
Hi
If you have sent a direct QSL to Contest Cambria, probably to
the manager GW3XEJ, you might be fretting that you have not yet
received a reply .
Frankly, we underestimated the attraction of the GW7X call (
about 100:1 cf my own call), and our usual printing system has
been quite overwhelmed. We currently await a bulk printing from
UT land, and as soon as they are available, the backlog will be
cleared.
Please accept our apologies for this discourtesy. We hope to see
you all in the forthcoming contests. fyi, member Ed/G3SQX ( aka
N0ED) will activate the call as GM7X in the IOTA contest at the
end of the month, so don't be confused, as this will not show in
the SCP database as yet.
Thank you for your indulgence and the bandwidth.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
Contest Cambria
>From 107770.3462 at compuserve.com Thu Jul 4 17:28:28 2002
From: 107770.3462@compuserve.com (James P. Cassidy)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NU5DE
Message-ID: <200207041628_MC3-1-514-36F2@compuserve.com>
Possibly another operator category if its an outdoor FD type operation, SO
Sunburned Operator? 73 Jim KI7Y
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Fri Jul 5 00:46:57 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Supporting The WRTC- AKA working the everybody i.e.
participating IARU2002
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12D9D@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Gents,
There are also others that will have fun.
OJ*.* is just one bunch of happy teams.
Pls visit
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iaru2002.html
to see some of the Headquarters Radio Leagues
all over the World have on the air.
We will have as much fun.
Headquarters stations will have also the Top Band,
which OJ*.* stations are lacking.
CU in IARU 2002 Radiosport July 13-14th, 12-12Z !
73,
Jukka, OH6LI
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Jim White [mailto:k4oj@tampabay.rr.com]
> Sent: 04 July, 2002 18:31
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Supporting The WRTC- AKA working the OJ's
>
>
> I agree, we all should make an effort to participate in the
> Radiosport next
> weekend...and a little extrat effort be made to target band
> times favourable
> for northern European QSOs...Radiosport is a fun contest -
> short enough to
> do the full stint even for us old guys! It is a simple
> exchange (justy
> remember it is your ITU NOT your CQ zone you are
> sneding...see ARRL web page
> for the list of ITU zones)
>
> Work as many calls with OJ in them as possible on as many
> different bands as
> possible, that is ALWAYS a good philosophy...except for SS :-)
>
> I slightly disagree with N6TR about whether or not the
> Radiosport will be as
> much fun as the Florida QSO Party - they do share a lot in common...
>
> You will be working some of the finest operators in the world
> - and - you
> will be working members of the Florida Contest Group, too!
>
> 9 days 'til WRTC and Radiosport 2,002!
>
> Good luck also to the W1AW/5 crew...go team USA!
>
>
> 73,
>
>
> K4 OJ
> (aka operator K4FCG in the one and only Florida QSO Party)
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From K5NZ at aol.com Thu Jul 4 18:48:11 2002
From: K5NZ@aol.com (K5NZ@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC
Message-ID: <18e.a2a72e3.2a561c9b@aol.com>
To all you WRTC teams.. Have a great experience and good luck!
USA USA USA!
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>From k8cx at hamgallery.com Thu Jul 4 21:43:13 2002
From: k8cx@hamgallery.com (Thomas Roscoe)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dayton 2002 Gallery is up!
Message-ID: <3D24EBA1.197B1DDD@hamgallery.com>
The Dayton 2002 Gallery is now up at http://hamgallery.com/dayton2002/.
The Gallery has 154 photos this year. I took 97 photos and the rest came
from W4MYA, XE1L, VP5JM, N1DG, K8AV, and K8KHZ. There are still some
unidentified people in these photos. If you know who these unknown hams
are, please let me know.
There is photo coverage of the Contesters Banquet, Top Band Dinner, DX
Dinner, and Crowne Plaza Hospitality Suites.
I am interested in putting up a WRTC 2002 Gallery. Unfortunately, I
won't be able to attend. If you go, take some pics and send them to me
for the Gallery. You can email them to k8cx@hamgallery.com or burn them
on a disk and mail it to:
Tom Roscoe K8CX
857 N. Albright McKay Rd.
Brookfield, Ohio 44403
Tnx,
Tom...K8CX...
>From k7qq at netzero.net Fri Jul 5 05:04:55 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
Message-ID: <00d801c223d9$80224480$da262a42@k7qq>
Perfect Fix
Turn the speakers OFF
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 15:11
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
> Recently installed a new computer and having an odd problem.
> When transmitting with the amp on, I get hum in my computer speakers
> (Harman Kardon with a subwoofer and 2 tweeters), but only when my
> stubs are switched in, and only on 15m. It's either coming from the
> speakers' AC line or the connection between speakers, as the hum is
> still there when not connected to the computer. I've tried ferrites on the
> audio and AC lines, but that didn't help. Ideas?
> Tnx,
> Barry--
> Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>
>
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>From aa4lr at arrl.net Fri Jul 5 09:46:55 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Computer time syncronization without using the
internet???
Message-ID: <20020705124825.LBPD25736.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 6/26/02 6:54 PM, VR2BrettGraham at vr2bg@harts.org.hk wrote:
>VA7NT needs to accurately set a computer's clock without resorting to
>the Internet.
Got GPS? Before you can know where you are, your GPS receiver has to
figure out what time it is, and does so very accurately.
GPS is how the NCCC beacon stations stay synchronised.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Fri Jul 5 10:40:36 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Life is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>; from Rex Maner on Thu, Jul
04, 2002 at 04:05:51AM -0000
References: <005c01c22310$beb6dfe0$c1f83442@k7qq>
Message-ID: <20020705094036.C1763@cs.utexas.edu>
The astute observer will notice that this special event station's
operation overlaps with the W1AW/5 ARRL HQ operation in the Austin, TX
area in the IARU HF World Championship.
Keep Austin Weird.
On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 04:05:51AM -0000, Rex Maner wrote:
>
> QST QST QST
> Here is one that all of you serious contestors can let it ALL HANG OUT
> Quack
>
> Subject: Life is stranger than fiction
>
>
> > Here's a laid-back contest you should try:
> >
> > Please see QST July 2002, page 86, bottom of first column:
> >
> > Austin TX: Naturist Amateur Radio Club, NU5DE. 0000Z Jul 8 - 2400Z Jul
> 14.
> > 27th Annual North American Nude Awareness Celebration. 28.465 21.365
> 14.265
> > 7.265. QSL. Naturist Amateur Radio Club, PO Box 200812, Austin, TX
> > 78720-0812.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>From aa4lr at arrl.net Fri Jul 5 14:20:29 2002
From: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Restoring High Band/Low Band categories in ARRL DX Test
Message-ID: <20020705172030.EKZP1238.imf24bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.20]>
On 6/18/02 9:25 AM, Dave Hachadorian at K6LL@adelphia.net wrote:
>
>2. There are a lot of stations around the world
>who have a small tower and tribander
>in the back yard, and an assortment of low,
>seriously compromised antennas for 40,
>80, and 160. There is not much incentive for these
>stations to get on the air in the
>all band category, since they know that they
>cannot turn in a competitive score. On the
>other hand, a tribander can do a quite creditable
>job on the high bands, which would
>encourage activity.
I know I'm a bit late to the party on this issue, but I'd like to
disagree with Dave here. I believe there's an errant assumption at work
here.
If the sole purpose of operating contests was to put in a winning score,
then the sport would soon dwindle down to just a dozen or so "serious"
contesters.
The guys (like me) with a small tower and tribander and compromised
antennas for the other bands aren't necessarily competing against
everyone else in the same category. Sometimes, we're just out to turn in
a better score than last year, or to beat the guy down the street, or in
the next county.
The small tower / tribander guys are already going to be concentrating on
the higher bands -- that's where their stations are effective. I don't
see where a high/low band split would encourage activity here. If
anything, it might lower single band scores on the lower bands since
folks won't bother even trying them out.
I don't think you encourage activity by limiting bands -- why not a TS
category, like that in WPX? (Although this has it's own inequities, as a
guy with a C51XR at 100 feet likely outclasses the guy with a HF4B at 20
feet)
>To me, the payoff in any contest is to enjoy the
>contest experience itself, and, afterward, to
>to see how I ranked, with the data arranged the
>way I like to see it presented.
I really like seeing the internet results. I found out I was #78 out of a
field of 800-odd in low-power SS Phone. Maybe this year, I can break into
the top 50 again.
Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
>From w9wi at w9wi.com Fri Jul 5 13:43:02 2002
From: w9wi@w9wi.com (Doug Smith W9WI)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Hum and stubs
In-Reply-To: <200207051603.g65G3f5r013440@contesting.com>; from
cq-contest-request@contesting.com on Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 12:03:41PM -0400
References: <200207051603.g65G3f5r013440@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <20020705124302.A7903@w9wi.com>
> From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
>
> Perfect Fix
> Turn the speakers OFF
That might not help!
Seriously, in my experience computer speakers are just about the most
RF-sensitive pieces of gear out there. In many of our offices at work we
have to put Radio Shack choke cores on the cables (both power and audio) or
we get WSM-FM louder than we get the computer audio.
The choke cores should work just fine for HF too. Though Rex is probably
right that the easiest fix is to just turn them off...
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com
>From k2av at contesting.com Fri Jul 5 15:13:14 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
References: <00d801c223d9$80224480$da262a42@k7qq>
Message-ID: <001701c2244f$a12ef260$0500a8c0@swift>
Try RF in the shack, plus your new stuff is poorly rf-proofed from the
factory (big surprise), and the stubs are just changing the lengths of
things, so the hot spots move around.
Check the archives on TowerTalk for a huge wealth of commentary on
grounding, etc.
73, Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
To: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 12:04 AM
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
> Perfect Fix
> Turn the speakers OFF
> Quack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 15:11
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Hum and stubs
>
>
> > Recently installed a new computer and having an odd problem.
> > When transmitting with the amp on, I get hum in my computer
speakers
> > (Harman Kardon with a subwoofer and 2 tweeters), but only when my
> > stubs are switched in, and only on 15m. It's either coming from
the
> > speakers' AC line or the connection between speakers, as the hum
is
> > still there when not connected to the computer. I've tried
ferrites on the
> > audio and AC lines, but that didn't help. Ideas?
> > Tnx,
> > Barry--
> > Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> > Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
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>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Fri Jul 5 15:35:02 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 IARU 2002 Bulletin #3
In-Reply-To: <20020619162639.D9927@cs.utexas.edu>; from Kenneth E. Harker on
Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 04:26:39PM -0500
References: <20020619162639.D9927@cs.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <20020705143501.H2236@cs.utexas.edu>
BULLETIN #3
5 July 2002
Propagation Predictions for W1AW/5
Central Texas area contesters are gearing up for the 2002 IARU HF World
Championship the weekend of 13-14 July. Six area contest stations will
be signing W1AW/5, representing the United States of America as the ARRL
"Headquarters Station."
To help prepare for the contest, W1AW/5 team member Tom Whiteside N5TW
has prepared a set of propagation predictions for the weekend. Tom used
IC Graph, a Visual Basic application he wrote for use inside Microsoft
Excel. IC Graph uses the IONCAP HF propagation software engine to produce
data that it then charts in Microsoft Excel. For more information on Tom's
software, which he has made available to the Amateur Radio community, visit
the IC Graph distribution page on the Central Texas DX & Contest Club web
site at: http://www.ctdxcc.org/icgraph/.
The propagation predictions are available online and are based on an assumed
solar flux of 135: http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr/misc/w1aw/iaru_propagation.html
The predictions include specific short path predictions between the central
Texas W1AW/5 stations and England, Germany, Russia, Japan, Australia, China,
Siberia, Jordan, the Caribbean, north Africa, south Africa, Argentina, and
India. Long path predictions were also generated for Russia and India. The
predictions can be viewed by destination or by band. Please send comments
and questions about the IC Graph predictions to Tom Whiteside N5TW at
n5tw@igg-tx.net.
The W1AW/5 stations are some of the most exceptional contest stations in
the central United States. The team considers these predictions to be merely
rough guides and will certainly be looking to make every QSO with every
station possible worldwide, whether the predictions suggest it is likely
or not. W1AW/5 will be on all the band-modes for the entire twenty four hours.
ARRL Headquarters will handle all QSL requests. QSL via W1AW: 225 Main
Street, Newington, CT 06111, USA. Please do not send QSL cards to the
W1AW/5 station owners or operators.
Please direct comments or questions about W1AW/5 in the 2002 IARU HF World
Championship to Richard King K5NA at k5na@texas.net. For more information
about the Central Texas DX & Contest Club visit http://www.ctdxcc.org/.
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>From dave at egh.com Fri Jul 5 20:48:14 2002
From: dave@egh.com (David Clemons)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] re: W1AW/5 IARU 2002 Bulletin #3
Message-ID: <00A107E5.5D81F60C.11@egh.com>
Hi,
I didn't notice propagation predictions for W5 <-> W1 paths
(New England instead of [Old] England). Do you guys have any idea
whether we'll be able to work Texas from here during the contest?
:-)
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
>From vr2bg at harts.org.hk Sat Jul 6 02:16:01 2002
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Computer time syncronization without using
the internet???
In-Reply-To: <20020705124825.LBPD25736.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0
.20]>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20020706011049.01fdc950@pop.pacific.net.hk>
AA4LR suggested:
> >VA7NT needs to accurately set a computer's clock without resorting to
> >the Internet.
>
>Got GPS? Before you can know where you are, your GPS receiver has to
>figure out what time it is, and does so very accurately.
>
>GPS is how the NCCC beacon stations stay synchronised.
When VR2B operated from my QTH, it was a little annoying that I couldn't
see the time the GPS receiver was providing to the beacon controller.
I didn't mention before that the wristwatch approach does start with
synchronization with a Rubidium-referenced master clock at the earth station
where I work, which in turns talks to something back in NA that's pretty
darn close to UT1.
Place of employment soon to vanish, so perhaps I should host VR2B again -
I might have enough spare time on my hands then to add time display to the
controller. ;^(
73, VR2BrettGraham
>From k4ww at arrl.net Sat Jul 6 06:53:39 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Hum and stubs
References: <200207051603.g65G3f5r013440@contesting.com>
<20020705124302.A7903@w9wi.com>
Message-ID: <005b01c224d3$01a3b300$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
"Doug Smith W9WI" <w9wi@w9wi.com> wrote: "we get WSM-FM louder than we get
the computer audio."
The last time I listened to WSM, it certainly sounded better than any
computer audio I've heard! :)
C'Ya, Shelby
>From harry at oh6yf.com Sun Jul 7 03:38:09 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The WRTC Station OH6YF & Next Weeks photos
Message-ID: <004d01c22546$2f6fcdf0$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hello all!!!
It would be very nice to see all of you here in Finland during WRTC 2002!
If you are not coming here I will collect my photos to the Internet in the
address:
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
I hope we all could meet and make each other to be even better friends!!!
The next night I will be testing my station on 14185kHz. Maybe we'll meet
there...
Best 73
Harry OH6YF
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Sun Jul 7 11:40:38 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5
In-Reply-To: <MCBBJAHBAIHDJKDNKBBIKEEDCAAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
References: <143.110c2e1f.2a58cece@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020707102918.00ba09d8@pop.pdq.net>
The WRTC thing coming up next weekend .......
The prizes that are mentioned for early log turn in and for working all of
the OJ stations ..........
........... What, exactly, are these prizes ?
I'm drooling to know.
Also,
The W1AW/5 stations.......
Should they identify themselves as W5/W1AW, W1AW/W5, or is, in fact, W1AW/5
acceptable?
What meets the properly defined procedural configuration for station
identification?
If I work them using QRP, can I sign as N5RP/QRP ??
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Sun Jul 7 21:14:56 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (Timo)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5
References: <143.110c2e1f.2a58cece@aol.com>
<5.1.1.2.2.20020707102918.00ba09d8@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <018a01c225d9$d3339820$90c5f83e@tklimoff>
-----
> The WRTC thing coming up next weekend .......
>
> The prizes that are mentioned for early log turn in and for working all of
> the OJ stations ..........
> ........... What, exactly, are these prizes ?
> I'm drooling to know.
Early Bird lottery prizes are still secret :)
But check
http://www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm
how to win an award, special plaque or T-shirt!
73, Timo OH1NOA
WRTC2002 Webmaster, Competitor Correspondence
>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Mon Jul 8 15:25:07 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 - Special OJ Callsigns, A Reminder
Message-ID: <01c22672$1d855600$abc5f83e@default>
Worked All WRTC2002 - "Worked All New OJ prefixes"
Get your log in immediately after the contest and Win Valuable "Early
Bird" prizes - WRTC2002 special incentive for 6-hour log-in!
OJ1- OJ8 prefixes activated for the 1st time!
The WRTC2002 teams will be using special ?2x1? type of callsigns with special
OJ1-OJ8 prefixes (e.g. OJ1M). The OJ1-OJ8 prefixes are activated for the first
time in history to honour WRTC2002 - the Olympics of Amateur Radio contesting
in Finland.
The list of OJ callsigns is as follows:
OJ1C OJ1F OJ1M OJ1N OJ1S OJ1W OJ1X
OJ2F OJ2H OJ2J OJ2Q OJ2V OJ2Y OJ2Z
OJ3A OJ3D OJ3N OJ3R OJ3T OJ3X
OJ4A OJ4M OJ4N OJ4S OJ4W
OJ5A OJ5E OJ5M OJ5T OJ5U OJ5W OJ5Z
OJ6C OJ6E OJ6K OJ6N OJ6W OJ6X OJ6Y
OJ7A OJ7C OJ7M OJ7N OJ7S OJ7W OJ7X
OJ8A OJ8E OJ8K OJ8L OJ8N OJ8W
You can download an Excel -checklist for the contest from:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/ojcalls.xls
Worked All WRTC2002 - Rules for non-WRTC2002 stations
* The same WRTC2002 station can be worked once on CW and once on SSB on
each band.
* Each correct two-way CW or SSB QSO with a WRTC2002 station counts 1
point. A duplicate QSO on same band and mode counts 0 points.
* Score = total sum of QSO points
Logs:
Only e-mail logs (ASCII) are accepted.
The preferred log formats are Cabrillo, CT.ALL and TR.DAT.
The "Early Bird" logs should be submitted by 18.00 UTC on Sunday, July 14,
2002. Regular latest submission date is July 31, 2002.
All logs should be sent via e-mail to: logs@wrtc2002.org
NOTE: The subject field of the e-mail should contain your contest callsign,
e.g. " Subject: WRTC2002 OH2AAA"
Request for stations working the IARU 2002 contest
The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU 2002
contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002 contest
committee to be used as reference data within the official WRTC2002
log-checking procedure. The committee guarantees that these logs will be used
only for cross checking purposes of the WRTC2002 team championship.
NOTE: All e-mail logs submitted within 6 hours after the contest ends will
participate in a lottery with special WRTC2002 prizes.
Awards & Categories
The following "Worked All WRTC2002" awards will be issued based on the above
contest rules:
"Worked All WRTC2002" awards
Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op CW
Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op SSB
Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op Mixed
Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op CW
Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op SSB
Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op Mixed
Worked all WRTC2002 - IARU HQ stations
Awards will be given to the stations with highest number of points in the
following
categories:
1st 2nd 3rd
World
Europe
North America
South America
Asia
Africa
Oceania
HQ Stations
OH - Finland
Special Plaques
Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - CW
Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - SSB
Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - Mixed
Other Prizes
T-shirts (DX) Worked 130 WRTC2002 qsos
T-shirts (EU) Worked 200 WRTC2002 qsos
WRTC2002 ORGANIZING COMMITTEE (via OH1EH)
>From jaime at robles.nu Mon Jul 8 18:50:20 2002
From: jaime@robles.nu (Jaime Robles)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Home made Digital Voice Keyer and a Kenwood
Message-ID: <200207081750.24496.jaime@robles.nu>
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Hello all!
I have just finished a DVK (the K6XX one) but it does not work.
Well, i am not a good builder but i have built some kits and circuits
before... maybe i have made a mistake.
The main problem for me is that i have not used a DVK before so i don't know
about how it works...
Could anybody tell me about the connections to a kenwood rig, please? (TS-50
but i think the others have the same pinout).
On the other hand... if you know another DVK circuit and you can tell me about
the URL i will thank you.
Many thanks.
73.
- --
Un saludo,
Jaime Robles, EA4TV
jaime@robles.nu
Visita http://www.redlibre.net - La Red Libre de todos!
http://smsdx.net - El DXCluster en tu movil!
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>From Timothy.Urban at wc.ey.com Mon Jul 8 12:51:38 2002
From: Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com (Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plea for help re: headphones
Message-ID: <OF03D10011.5236C368-ON85256BF0.00555485@ey.com>
Recently bought a set of the Bose Noise Reducing headphones for contesting
based upon positive comments in the list archives.
While they do zero out a huge amount of transceiver fan noise and computer
whine, I have encountered two serious problems and am desperate for your
suggestions.
Rig = FT 1000 MK 5 + coax feed (incl. a coax rf choke and a w2du type
current balun) + wire ocfd. Runs up to 200 w rf at swr < 1.5 to 1 using
rig's built in tuner.
Problem 1: Bose headphones pick up a cw transmit (rf?) thump - slight on
the Low NR setting of the phones, huge on the High NR setting on the
phones. Added 8 turns of the headphone cable thru a snap together MFJ
torroid - didn't help. Intensity of thump varies band to band.
Reducing the power setting on the rig helps, but is not a viable
solution :).
My goal would be to be able to use the phones on the high NR
setting - it seems to provide valuable audio gain. Operating with the low
setting seems like running the rig with the attenuator on.
Problem 2: SSB: Transmitting voice on ssb with the rig's "monitor"
feature, using the stock Yaesu hand mike, creates ungodly feedback.
Thanks for any ideas - hope I don't have to give these things back
Tim
N5IIT
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>From kc1f at adelphia.net Mon Jul 8 16:14:09 2002
From: kc1f@adelphia.net (Stuart Santelmann)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 1996 T shirt ?
Message-ID: <016e01c22689$bdc87040$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Anyone have some last minute help ? I leave for WRTC 2002 in 2 hours, at
2PM EDST. I can't remember if in WRTC 1996 they had T shirts, in addition
to the cards and letter opener. I want to bring the shirt to Finland, but
can't remember if there was one, or where it is in my house, hi. I do have
the 2000 one.
TIA Stu KC1F WRTC 2002 referee
>From aa4ga at contesting.com Mon Jul 8 13:08:00 2002
From: aa4ga@contesting.com (Lee Hiers)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Radio Question
Message-ID: <3D2980A0.3079.EA6BB1@localhost>
Howdy...
I thought I might actually operate a contest for a change, and was
getting some stuff together this past weekend in anticipation of the
IARU, when I discovered my ol' reliable TS440 has apparently passed
on.
So, I'm thinking about getting another radio. My main rig is an FT-
990. My first thought is to get another 990, as I'm happy with that
rig...but they're OOP and aging. I do like that they're <1000 bucks.
What new mid-level rigs are going to work as well? - primarily
interested in how they perform for RX in a contest environment
obviously!
How about the Icom 746pro? Has anyone used this rig in a contest?
I don't really want to stretch the budget to 2000, but I could...what
other recent rigs should I consider?
Thanks,
Lee
--
Lee Hiers, AA4GA
Cornelia, Georgia
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Mon Jul 8 12:18:22 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 IARU 2002 Bulletin #4
In-Reply-To: <20020705143501.H2236@cs.utexas.edu>; from Kenneth E. Harker on
Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 02:35:02PM -0500
References: <20020619162639.D9927@cs.utexas.edu>
<20020705143501.H2236@cs.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <20020708111822.K876@cs.utexas.edu>
BULLETIN #4
8 July 2002
W1AW/5 Honor Roll Announced
Central Texas area contesters are gearing up for the 2002 IARU HF World
Championship the weekend of 13-14 July. Six area contest stations will
be signing W1AW/5, representing the United States of America as the ARRL
"Headquarters Station."
Organizers have announced that the W1AW/5 operation will create a "W1AW/5
Honor Roll" listing the callsign of every contest operation that works
W1AW/5 on all twelve band-modes, on all six CW bands, or on all six phone
bands. The Honor Roll will be featured prominently on the Central Texas
DX & Contest Club web site: http://www.ctdxcc.org/.
Those looking for the opportunity to work the W1AW portable operation
will have ample opportunity. Many stateside operators may even have better
luck on the low bands during the daylight hours, when the band is quieter
and there's less QRM. All of the W1AW/5 stations have survived the recent
heavy storms well, and were not affected by the flooding near the San
Antonio and New Braunfels areas. All systems are go, and W1AW/5 will be
on the air on all the bands and modes, for the entire twenty-four hours.
ARRL Headquarters will handle all QSL requests. QSL via W1AW: 225 Main
Street, Newington, CT 06111, USA. Please do not send QSL cards to the
W1AW/5 station owners or operators.
Please direct comments or questions about W1AW/5 in the 2002 IARU HF World
Championship to Richard King K5NA at k5na@texas.net. For more information
about the Central Texas DX & Contest Club visit http://www.ctdxcc.org/.
--
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Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From kc1f at adelphia.net Mon Jul 8 17:35:08 2002
From: kc1f@adelphia.net (Stuart Santelmann)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 1996 T shirt ?
References: <016e01c22689$bdc87040$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <018701c22695$132b90c0$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Found it ! Tnx anyway - my XYL had stored it. It's mostly white, so hard
to find...
CU in OH !
Stu KC1F
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart Santelmann" <kc1f@adelphia.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:14 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 1996 T shirt ?
> Anyone have some last minute help ? I leave for WRTC 2002 in 2 hours, at
> 2PM EDST. I can't remember if in WRTC 1996 they had T shirts, in addition
> to the cards and letter opener. I want to bring the shirt to Finland, but
> can't remember if there was one, or where it is in my house, hi. I do
have
> the 2000 one.
>
> TIA Stu KC1F WRTC 2002 referee
>
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>From dick.green at valley.net Mon Jul 8 14:51:15 2002
From: dick.green@valley.net (Dick Green)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
Message-ID: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
And the winner is...
I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m antennas
"side-by-side" and thought the results would be of interest. I've had a 40m
4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five years. Yesterday,
I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC portable guyed
military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two antennas. There was
no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units louder than the
4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB per S-unit, that
translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher would improve
these results.
I say the opportunity for such a comparison is rare because most people
replace one antenna with another rather than keeping the old one and adding
a new one. We often see claims like "this antenna is so much better than my
old antenna", when the comparison is actually made from memory of what the
old antenna was like. That's subjective at best. There's no substitute for
being able to switch back and forth under a wide variety of conditions. It's
also nice when the difference is definitive, as it was in my test.
I've been wondering about the relative merits of the 4-square and beam for
some time. A couple of years ago, someone at a YCCC meeting complained that
his 40m 4-square just couldn't keep up with the 2-el beams (can't remember
who it was.) I disputed the claim, feeling that my full-size 4-square with
60 radials per element was reasonable close in performance to a 2-el yagi.
This assertion was partly based on having done reasonably well on 40m in
contests, partly based on denial (building a 4-square is a lot of work!),
but mostly based on having misunderstood the theoretical gain numbers for a
4-square. I thought that a 4-square had about 5.5dB gain over a dipole,
roughly equivalent to a 40-2CD. In fact, the gain of a 4-square is only
5.5dB over a single vertical (monopole.) Near as I can figure it, a dipole
over real ground is about 5.5dB louder than a monopole over average ground.
That would make a 4-square about equivalent to a dipole. The 40-2CD would
therefore be at least 5.5dB louder than the 4-square, and probably more if
the 4-square efficiency isn't optimum. That explains the test results pretty
well.
Before you call me a doofus for making that mistake, go try to find the
numbers in the ARRL Antenna Handbook or in ON4UN's Low Band DXing -- the
numbers are there but you have to do a lot of flipping around and converting
of dBi to dBd, adjusting for ground, etc. A simple table comparing various
antenna designs under "typical" conditions would be nice, wouldn't it?
I got really interested in the comparison when I noticed that as my contest
scores got better by improving other antennas, my 40m QSOs always lagged the
competition. Eventually, it became clear that I was giving away too much on
40m and that I must have been wrong about the 4-square. Luckily, the used
40-2CD became available for a one-year loan just as I was pondering what to
do (the same fellow loaned me an extension kit for the AB-577/GRC that can
raise the height to 75 feet.)
Of course, a 4-square has other advantages. If the radial system is good,
the radiation angle should be lower. I'll have to check that out on some
long-haul paths. More important, the F/B of the 4-square is much better than
the 40-2CD. The 4-square has an F/B of at least 20dB, while the 40-2CD seems
to be about 5dB-15dB (hard to measure, but it's clearly not very good.) This
could be important when stateside QRM is bad. Also, the 4-square is
significantly less noisy than the 40-2CD. Finally, the 4-square can switch
directions instantly. Still, all in all, I'll take the extra forward gain! I
should get a chance to check out the 40-2CD in action this weekend in IARU.
I've always loved the "idea" of a 4-square (an antenna you can build with no
concrete and no help), and it really is an excellent compromise antenna, but
it just doesn't cut it for bands higher than 80m.
73, Dick WC1M
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Mon Jul 8 19:04:50 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [YCCC] 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <000e01c226a9$f5a428e0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Interesting. But you should really compare them over a longer period,
especially during good spring or fall propagation. In many years of
experience here a full size 4-square with only 4 radials raised about 5'
has performed better than a 40-2cd at 60' on long paths into Russia and
asia. It was sometimes as good as a 40-2cd at 120'. Now that the
40-2cd's are at 90' and 180' it is rarely as good as either one. The
main advantages I see in having both is that the f/b of the 4 square is
better so sometimes it hears better, the takeoff angle is different so
sometimes it is better on some paths, it is good for a quick switch in
direction when getting called by an LU or JA when working Europe, and it
is vertical which provides a choice of polarization(though this doesn't
seem as important as it is on 80m and 160m).
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yccc-admin@yccc.org [mailto:yccc-admin@yccc.org] On Behalf Of
Dick
> Green
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 17:51
> To: CONTEST; Tower; YCCC
> Subject: [YCCC] 4-square vs 40-2CD
>
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m
antennas
> "side-by-side" and thought the results would be of interest. I've had
a
> 40m
> 4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five years.
> Yesterday,
> I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC portable guyed
> military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two antennas.
There
> was
> no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units louder than
the
> 4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB per S-unit,
that
> translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher would
improve
> these results.
>
> I say the opportunity for such a comparison is rare because most
people
> replace one antenna with another rather than keeping the old one and
> adding
> a new one. We often see claims like "this antenna is so much better
than
> my
> old antenna", when the comparison is actually made from memory of what
the
> old antenna was like. That's subjective at best. There's no substitute
for
> being able to switch back and forth under a wide variety of
conditions.
> It's
> also nice when the difference is definitive, as it was in my test.
>
> I've been wondering about the relative merits of the 4-square and beam
for
> some time. A couple of years ago, someone at a YCCC meeting complained
> that
> his 40m 4-square just couldn't keep up with the 2-el beams (can't
remember
> who it was.) I disputed the claim, feeling that my full-size 4-square
with
> 60 radials per element was reasonable close in performance to a 2-el
yagi.
> This assertion was partly based on having done reasonably well on 40m
in
> contests, partly based on denial (building a 4-square is a lot of
work!),
> but mostly based on having misunderstood the theoretical gain numbers
for
> a
> 4-square. I thought that a 4-square had about 5.5dB gain over a
dipole,
> roughly equivalent to a 40-2CD. In fact, the gain of a 4-square is
only
> 5.5dB over a single vertical (monopole.) Near as I can figure it, a
dipole
> over real ground is about 5.5dB louder than a monopole over average
> ground.
> That would make a 4-square about equivalent to a dipole. The 40-2CD
would
> therefore be at least 5.5dB louder than the 4-square, and probably
more if
> the 4-square efficiency isn't optimum. That explains the test results
> pretty
> well.
>
> Before you call me a doofus for making that mistake, go try to find
the
> numbers in the ARRL Antenna Handbook or in ON4UN's Low Band DXing --
the
> numbers are there but you have to do a lot of flipping around and
> converting
> of dBi to dBd, adjusting for ground, etc. A simple table comparing
various
> antenna designs under "typical" conditions would be nice, wouldn't it?
>
> I got really interested in the comparison when I noticed that as my
> contest
> scores got better by improving other antennas, my 40m QSOs always
lagged
> the
> competition. Eventually, it became clear that I was giving away too
much
> on
> 40m and that I must have been wrong about the 4-square. Luckily, the
used
> 40-2CD became available for a one-year loan just as I was pondering
what
> to
> do (the same fellow loaned me an extension kit for the AB-577/GRC that
can
> raise the height to 75 feet.)
>
> Of course, a 4-square has other advantages. If the radial system is
good,
> the radiation angle should be lower. I'll have to check that out on
some
> long-haul paths. More important, the F/B of the 4-square is much
better
> than
> the 40-2CD. The 4-square has an F/B of at least 20dB, while the 40-2CD
> seems
> to be about 5dB-15dB (hard to measure, but it's clearly not very
good.)
> This
> could be important when stateside QRM is bad. Also, the 4-square is
> significantly less noisy than the 40-2CD. Finally, the 4-square can
switch
> directions instantly. Still, all in all, I'll take the extra forward
gain!
> I
> should get a chance to check out the 40-2CD in action this weekend in
> IARU.
>
> I've always loved the "idea" of a 4-square (an antenna you can build
with
> no
> concrete and no help), and it really is an excellent compromise
antenna,
> but
> it just doesn't cut it for bands higher than 80m.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
> _______________________________________________
> YCCC Reflector
> yccc@yccc.org
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/yccc
>From g3xtt at lineone.net Mon Jul 8 22:20:25 2002
From: g3xtt@lineone.net (Donald Field)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Contest
Message-ID: <028101c226bd$07a62a80$f9d2403e@field>
IOTA Contest 2002 (1200 27 July to 1200 28 July)
Just a over a couple of weeks now until this year's IOTA Contest. And,
judging by the announcemenents in the bulletins and on the reflectors, there
will be a huge ammount of island activity; plenty of multipliers for the
serious contesters, plenty of IOTA counters for the IOTA enthusiasts. It
looks like being the best IOTA Contest yet!
Most of you will have seen the write-up and results from last year (if not,
they are of course on the RSGB HF Committee Web page - www.rsgbhfcc.org ).
The main rule changes this year are in the rules regarding island
DXpeditions, the introduction of a World multi-op category (previously, only
island stations could participate multi-op) and the introduction of a
100-watt option for all entrants.
When you submit your logs, do please ensure that the cover sheet makes clear
which section and category you are entering (especially, make clear whether
12- or 24-hour, whether 100-watt or high-power and whether CW, SSB or
multimode. Otherwise you will be automatically classified as 24-hour and/or
multimode and/or high-power). Advice on how to configure the most popular
logging programs for use in the contest has been posted on the Contests
Committee Web page (see above). There were particular problems last year
with entrants who had used CT. Under some configurations, the .LOG file did
not contain the received serial number (whereas the .ALL file did). Please
check that your log contains all the necessary information. Electronic logs
are preferred, ideally to the new address of iota.logs@rsgbhfcc.org Even if
you only make a few QSOs, please send a log - all logs are entered in the
master database for checking purposes. We hope to improve the collection of
logs this year and I am especially grateful to Trey N5KO for working with us
on this, as he has previously done for both CQ and ARRL.
73 Don Field G3XTT
IOTA Contest Manager
g3xtt@lineone.net (also iotacontest@rsgbhfcc.org )
>From dl3td at t-online.de Mon Jul 8 21:52:21 2002
From: dl3td@t-online.de (Dr. Lothar Wilke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DA0HQ
Message-ID: <000301c226b0$9feffd00$039256d9@wilke>
Here is an information abt DA0HQ 2002 in IARU HF World Championship.
Band Mode QTH Frequencies
160 CW DL1AWI 1832
160 SSB DF0HQ 1842
80 CW DF0SAX 3511
80 SSB DF0HQ 3640/3780
40 CW DF0HQ 7003/7032
40 SSB DL1AWI 7050/7080
20 CW DF3CB 14032
20 SSB DJ7AA 14220/14240
15 CW DL6RAI 21032
15 SSB DF0HQ 21250
10 CW DF0HQ 28032
10 SSB DL0MGB 28480
QSL:DL5AXX
See you in the Championship!
All the best to all WRTC Teams!
73
Lothar, DL3TD/DF0HQ (ex Y24UK/Y34K)
Dr. Lothar Wilke, DL3TD
Tel.: +49 361 5612120
E-mail: dxhf@darc.de
Internet: http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/
http://www.tu-ilmenau.de/~df0hq
PR: dl3td@db0erf.#thr.deu.eu
>From TOMK5RC at aol.com Mon Jul 8 18:20:12 2002
From: TOMK5RC@aol.com (TOMK5RC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Chrome Moly Masts
Message-ID: <8d.1ac6bc8f.2a5b5c0c@aol.com>
After 12 years of selling the highest quality mast material available to the
amateur community, The Mast Man, Tom, K5RC, has sold the Productivity
Resources Mast business to Force 12. The same great masts will be available
from the finest antenna manufacturer. Contact F12 at www.force12inc.com or at
805-227-1680. A formal press release will be forthcoming.
Tom, K5RC
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>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:08 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Japan to OI2HQ IARU 2002 propagation forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DB6@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Maybe someone can forward this to a Japanese
mailing list, too.
73,
Jukka, OH6LI
- - -
Japan - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Japan - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz, QSX as announced
Hoping to work some Japanese stations at 1830-1900 UTC
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
Expecting to work Japanese stations at
1800-1900 UTC on SSB, 1830-1900 UTC on CW
because CW station is more to West.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB
40m expected to be open 1700-2000 UTC,
Peak in signals at 1800-1930 UTC
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open from contest start, 12 UTC
on 13th July to 2230 UTC and opening again at 1100 UTC
on 14th July, being open until contest end, 12 UTC on
14th July.
Peak in signals expected on 13th July from 17 UTC to 20 UTC
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m expected to be open from contest start 12 UTC to 1430 UTC
on 13th July. Opening is possible later, at 19-2030 UTC.
On 14th 15 should open at 04 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC on 14th July.
Peak in signals expected 13th July from 14 to 15 UTC and
14th Jyly from 0730 UTC to 09 UTC
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
Expecting to work Japanese stations from 12 UTC to 14 UTC
on 13th July, possibility for later opening at 20-2030 UTC,
On 14th July band may open at 08 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC.
Signal path is polar, so odd openings may occur even though
the announcd more likely hours may be worse.
73,
Jukka
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:14 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Eastern NA to OI2HQ IARU 2002 Propagation Forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DB7@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Eastern North America - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Eastern North America - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz, QSX as announced
Hoping to work some Eastern NA stations at 0130-02 UTC
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
Expecting to work Eastern NA stations at
0130-02 UTC on SSB, 0130-0230 UTC on CW
because CW station is more to West.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
40m expected to be open 0000-0330 UTC,
Peak in signals 0130-0230 UTC.
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open from 2200 UTC on July 13th to
09 UTC on July 14th.
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m expected to be open from contest start 12 UTC on
July 13th to 1930 UTC.
Opening is possible later, even after 23 UTC.
On July 14th 15m opens at 1030 UTC and is open to
contest end, 12 UTC July 14th.
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
Expecting to work Eastern NA stations from contest start,
July 13th, 12 UTC to 19 UTC if Aurora is vague enough.
On July 13th, possibility for the opening to continue beyond 2200 UTC.
On July 14th band should open at 11 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC.
Signal path is polar, so odd openings may occur even though
the announcd more likely hours may be worse.
73,
Jukka
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:18 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Europe - OI2HQ IARU 2002 Propagation forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DB8@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Europe - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Europe - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz
160 should open at 1630UTC and close 0530 UTC.
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB
80m is open 13th July 1500 UTC to 14th July 0630 UTC.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB,
40m opens 13th July 14 UTC and closes 0730 UTC on 14th July.
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open full 24 hours.
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m should be open from contest start 12 UTC on
13th July to 22 UTC.
On 14th July 15m should open at 03 UTC and stay
open to contest end, 12 UTC July 14th.
If direct propagation is bad, OI2HQ encourages the European
stations to beam to NA or JA directions to access backscatter
propagation on 15.
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
10m is open from contest start, July 13th 12 UTC to 20 UTC.
On July 14th band should open at 0330 UTC and stay open to
contest end, 12 UTC.
If direct propagation is bad, OI2HQ encourages the European
stations to beam to NA or JA directions to access backscatter
propagation on 10.
73,
Jukka
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:29 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Western North America - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation
forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DBA@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Western North America - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Mid North America - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz, QSX as announced
No propagation expected
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
No propagation expected.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
40m may be possible for bigger stations to log OI2HQ
between 04 to 0430 UTC.
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open from 0030 UTC on July 13th to
0830 UTC on July 14th.
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m may be open from contest start 12 UTC on
July 13th to 1930 UTC if Aurora is vague enough.
Opening is likely later, after 23 UTC.
On July 14th 15m may open at 1130 UTC and is open to
contest end, 12 UTC July 14th.
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
Hoping to work Western NA stations from July 13th, 13 UTC
to 1730 UTC if Aurora is vague enough.
On July 14th band may open at 1130 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC.
Signal path is polar, so odd openings may occur even though
the announcd more likely hours may be worse.
A polar opening may be possible during OI2HQ nighttime,
after 23 UTC on July 13th, possibility exists until 02 UTC July 14th.
73,
Jukka
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Tue Jul 9 01:34:34 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Mid North America - OI2HQ IARU 2002 Propagation Forecast
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DBB@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Mid North America - OI2HQ IARU2002 Propagation Forecast,
Expected solar activity: SFI=150, K=2.
OI2HQ sunset 2015 UTC, sunrise 0050 UTC
Propagation charts can be found at:
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/
-Special thanks to Jari, OH6BG and Teijo, OH6NIO for
their contribution in creating all this forecast
information.
Mid North America - OI2HQ forecast band by band:
1837 CW&SSB kHz, QSX as announced
No conditions expected
3512-3514 kHz CW
3775 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
Expecting to work some Mid NA stations at
02-0230 UTC.
Signals will be weak if there is any propagation.
7004 or 7034 kHz CW
7070-7075 kHz SSB, QSX as announced
40m expected to be open 02-03 UTC for big stations.
14034 kHz CW
14255 kHz SSB
20m expected to be open from 2300 UTC on July 13th to
0830 UTC on July 14th.
21034 kHz CW,
21255 or 21315 kHz SSB
15m expected to be open from contest start 12 UTC on
July 13th to 1930 UTC.
Opening is possible later, even after 23 UTC.
On July 14th 15m opens at 1030 UTC and is open to
contest end, 12 UTC July 14th.
28034 kHz CW,
28485 or 28530 kHz SSB
Expecting to work Mid NA stations from contest start,
July 13th, 12 UTC to 1730 UTC if Aurora is vague enough.
On July 14th band may open at 1130 UTC and stay open to contest
end, 12 UTC.
Signal path is polar, so odd openings may occur even though
the announcd more likely hours may be worse.
73,
Jukka
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Jul 8 19:36:29 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [Towertalk] 4-square vs 40-2CD
References: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <025401c226cf$e78f2900$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Dick,
More is better in one facet of life I participate in - antennas!
I never cease to be amazed at how antennas HEAR differently...as such
current efforts at my station are to increase diversity of antennas - so to
enhance RECEIVING...
If you can keep both antennas I would recommend it...you may find that while
the 4 square always comes in second as far as RST rx from other stations it
may hear better at certain times of day and at certain combinations of
conditions....
I love the 40-2CD as anyone who has ever heard me talk about mine has been
bored to tears with, but I am also working on some phased verticals for 40
now...
Granted I am no doubt headed into the oh sh&* too many things to choose from
syndrome but all it takes is a weekend of bouncing around to reaffirm my
belief that more IS better...as they say in sport
On any given weekend!
GL
Jim, K4OJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Green" <dick.green@valley.net>
To: "CONTEST" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; "Tower"
<towertalk@contesting.com>; "YCCC" <yccc@yccc.org>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:51 PM
Subject: [Towertalk] 4-square vs 40-2CD
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m antennas
> "side-by-side" and thought the results would be of interest. I've had a
40m
> 4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five years.
Yesterday,
> I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC portable guyed
> military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two antennas. There
was
> no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units louder than the
> 4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB per S-unit, that
> translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher would improve
> these results.
>
> I say the opportunity for such a comparison is rare because most people
> replace one antenna with another rather than keeping the old one and
adding
> a new one. We often see claims like "this antenna is so much better than
my
> old antenna", when the comparison is actually made from memory of what the
> old antenna was like. That's subjective at best. There's no substitute for
> being able to switch back and forth under a wide variety of conditions.
It's
> also nice when the difference is definitive, as it was in my test.
>
> I've been wondering about the relative merits of the 4-square and beam for
> some time. A couple of years ago, someone at a YCCC meeting complained
that
> his 40m 4-square just couldn't keep up with the 2-el beams (can't remember
> who it was.) I disputed the claim, feeling that my full-size 4-square with
> 60 radials per element was reasonable close in performance to a 2-el yagi.
> This assertion was partly based on having done reasonably well on 40m in
> contests, partly based on denial (building a 4-square is a lot of work!),
> but mostly based on having misunderstood the theoretical gain numbers for
a
> 4-square. I thought that a 4-square had about 5.5dB gain over a dipole,
> roughly equivalent to a 40-2CD. In fact, the gain of a 4-square is only
> 5.5dB over a single vertical (monopole.) Near as I can figure it, a dipole
> over real ground is about 5.5dB louder than a monopole over average
ground.
> That would make a 4-square about equivalent to a dipole. The 40-2CD would
> therefore be at least 5.5dB louder than the 4-square, and probably more if
> the 4-square efficiency isn't optimum. That explains the test results
pretty
> well.
>
> Before you call me a doofus for making that mistake, go try to find the
> numbers in the ARRL Antenna Handbook or in ON4UN's Low Band DXing -- the
> numbers are there but you have to do a lot of flipping around and
converting
> of dBi to dBd, adjusting for ground, etc. A simple table comparing various
> antenna designs under "typical" conditions would be nice, wouldn't it?
>
> I got really interested in the comparison when I noticed that as my
contest
> scores got better by improving other antennas, my 40m QSOs always lagged
the
> competition. Eventually, it became clear that I was giving away too much
on
> 40m and that I must have been wrong about the 4-square. Luckily, the used
> 40-2CD became available for a one-year loan just as I was pondering what
to
> do (the same fellow loaned me an extension kit for the AB-577/GRC that can
> raise the height to 75 feet.)
>
> Of course, a 4-square has other advantages. If the radial system is good,
> the radiation angle should be lower. I'll have to check that out on some
> long-haul paths. More important, the F/B of the 4-square is much better
than
> the 40-2CD. The 4-square has an F/B of at least 20dB, while the 40-2CD
seems
> to be about 5dB-15dB (hard to measure, but it's clearly not very good.)
This
> could be important when stateside QRM is bad. Also, the 4-square is
> significantly less noisy than the 40-2CD. Finally, the 4-square can switch
> directions instantly. Still, all in all, I'll take the extra forward gain!
I
> should get a chance to check out the 40-2CD in action this weekend in
IARU.
>
> I've always loved the "idea" of a 4-square (an antenna you can build with
no
> concrete and no help), and it really is an excellent compromise antenna,
but
> it just doesn't cut it for bands higher than 80m.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
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>From paul at ei5di.com Tue Jul 9 01:52:50 2002
From: paul@ei5di.com (Paul O'Kane)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Contest - Logging Software
References: <028101c226bd$07a62a80$f9d2403e@field>
Message-ID: <001501c226da$ae26ce60$e5a5fea9@dell>
SDI (SD for IOTA) is the only contest logger dedicated to the IOTA
Contest, and has been since the contest started in 1993. As such,
it has features specific to this event not found on any other
contest logger.
SDI V9.91 is intended for single-op unassisted entries and is
FreeWare. SDICHECK, the post-contest program distributed with
SDI, has been updated to include a World Multi-Op entry category
on the Summary Sheet.
SDI is a DOS program, but it runs in all versions of Windows -
please review the README.1ST file for more information.
SDI may be downloaded from http://www.ei5di.com/sd/sdi991.zip (327
kb).
73,
Paul EI5DI
http://www.ei5di.com
>From w8aef at worldnet.att.net Mon Jul 8 22:48:59 2002
From: w8aef@worldnet.att.net (Paul Playford)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
References: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <000201c226ea$5d32ac80$38f4fea9@paulplay>
Great report Dick. I am of the same opinion, the only way to compare
antennas is to be able to switch between them.
At one time I had a Hygain antenna that consisted of two linearly loaded
elements on 40 and 3 full size elements on 20. It's been a long time but
I think it may have been a 402BA or something like that. My observations
were similar to yours on both gain and f/b on 40 but a real performer on 20.
So poor on 40 that I gave it away when I obtained my first 204BA.
An observation I made a couple of years ago is that yagi height is very
important, just like the books say but we never believe (big antennas, high
in the sky, work better than little antennas down low). It was during
Sweepstakes that I noticed my tribander at 30 feet was outperforming my
monoband yagi's at 70-78-86 feet. And in excess of 10 dB. I even checked
them with an analyzer! As an afterthought I cranked the tower down and when
all the antennas were at about the same height they performed equally well.
I have concluded that on 20-15-10 if you want to talk to someone less that
2500 miles away about 30 feet heighth works best, and if further than 2500
miles then the higher antennas work best.
So I will be anxiously watching for your report from the IARU.
My 4 squares have elevated radials and I have a feeling that they are
between a 2 element and a 3 element yagi.
Your IARU report may be the impetus I need to put my other 72 foot tower up
with a 40 meter yagi on it.
de Paul, W8AEF
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Green" <dick.green@valley.net>
To: "CONTEST" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; "Tower"
<towertalk@contesting.com>; "YCCC" <yccc@yccc.org>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:51 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m antennas
>From richard at karlquist.com Mon Jul 8 21:01:57 2002
From: richard@karlquist.com (Richard Karlquist)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [Towertalk] 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <MGEKKFGEAIKJOOPJPGIKAEPHCJAA.richard@karlquist.com>
I'll believe your test, but a better
test is a simple dipole against a simple
vertical. That way, implementation
problems of the 4-square and Yagi don't
confuse the results.
This must vary with location. At my QTH,
before building my 7 element vertical
array, I A/B'ed a simple vertical against
a 90 foot high inverted vee. Within the
resolution I could get switching back
and forth, these were interchangeable for
me. Maybe the dipole really is 2 dB better,
and I just can't measure to that resolution.
I haven't tried it, but wouldn't be surprised
if a dipole did start to get a substantial
advantage at a really high height, like 140+
feet.
>From all the positive press than 90 foot
high beams on 40m get, I expected much
more than I got with my vee at 90 feet.
(Note: proper precautions were taken
to avoid mutual coupling effects between
antennas).
Rick Karlquist N6RK
richard@karlquist.com
www.n6rk.com
www.karlquist.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dick Green
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 AM
> To: CONTEST; Tower; YCCC
> Subject: [Towertalk] 4-square vs 40-2CD
>
>
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very
> different 40m antennas
> "side-by-side" and thought the results would be of
> interest. I've had a 40m
> 4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five
> years. Yesterday,
> I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC
> portable guyed
> military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two
> antennas. There was
> no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units
> louder than the
> 4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB
> per S-unit, that
> translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher
> would improve
> these results.
>
>
>From n5ia at zia-connection.com Mon Jul 8 21:11:55 2002
From: n5ia@zia-connection.com (Milt Jensen at N5IA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
References: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <003301c226f6$65b58380$6427140a@2gHz.Screamer.aznex.net>
Keep 'em both, Dick. There are never enough antennas! You will find the
4-Square extremely advantageous in the heat of battle and it will perform
better than the 2 element directional about 30% of the time.
The 4-Square we used at XZ0A in January, 2000 was elevated with 12 radials
on each element and the performance was tremendous. Same for the 80 Meter
4-Square and the single element 160 Meter Groundplane.
Good luck with your endeavors.
Milt, N5IA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Green" <dick.green@valley.net>
To: "CONTEST" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; "Tower"
<towertalk@contesting.com>; "YCCC" <yccc@yccc.org>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
> And the winner is...
>
> I just had the rare opportunity to compare two very different 40m antennas
> "side-by-side" and thought the results would be of interest. I've had a
40m
> 4-square with 60 buried radials per element for about five years.
Yesterday,
> I put a used 40-2CD at the top of a 50-foot AB-577/GRC portable guyed
> military surplus mast (HD-73 rotor) and compared the two antennas. There
was
> no contest at all: even at 50ft, the 40-2CD is 1-2 S-units louder than the
> 4-square. Assuming my 1000MP meter is calibrated for 6dB per S-unit, that
> translates to 6-12dB. I'm sure getting the 40-2CD up higher would improve
> these results.
>
> I say the opportunity for such a comparison is rare because most people
> replace one antenna with another rather than keeping the old one and
adding
> a new one. We often see claims like "this antenna is so much better than
my
> old antenna", when the comparison is actually made from memory of what the
> old antenna was like. That's subjective at best. There's no substitute for
> being able to switch back and forth under a wide variety of conditions.
It's
> also nice when the difference is definitive, as it was in my test.
>
> I've been wondering about the relative merits of the 4-square and beam for
> some time. A couple of years ago, someone at a YCCC meeting complained
that
> his 40m 4-square just couldn't keep up with the 2-el beams (can't remember
> who it was.) I disputed the claim, feeling that my full-size 4-square with
> 60 radials per element was reasonable close in performance to a 2-el yagi.
> This assertion was partly based on having done reasonably well on 40m in
> contests, partly based on denial (building a 4-square is a lot of work!),
> but mostly based on having misunderstood the theoretical gain numbers for
a
> 4-square. I thought that a 4-square had about 5.5dB gain over a dipole,
> roughly equivalent to a 40-2CD. In fact, the gain of a 4-square is only
> 5.5dB over a single vertical (monopole.) Near as I can figure it, a dipole
> over real ground is about 5.5dB louder than a monopole over average
ground.
> That would make a 4-square about equivalent to a dipole. The 40-2CD would
> therefore be at least 5.5dB louder than the 4-square, and probably more if
> the 4-square efficiency isn't optimum. That explains the test results
pretty
> well.
>
> Before you call me a doofus for making that mistake, go try to find the
> numbers in the ARRL Antenna Handbook or in ON4UN's Low Band DXing -- the
> numbers are there but you have to do a lot of flipping around and
converting
> of dBi to dBd, adjusting for ground, etc. A simple table comparing various
> antenna designs under "typical" conditions would be nice, wouldn't it?
>
> I got really interested in the comparison when I noticed that as my
contest
> scores got better by improving other antennas, my 40m QSOs always lagged
the
> competition. Eventually, it became clear that I was giving away too much
on
> 40m and that I must have been wrong about the 4-square. Luckily, the used
> 40-2CD became available for a one-year loan just as I was pondering what
to
> do (the same fellow loaned me an extension kit for the AB-577/GRC that can
> raise the height to 75 feet.)
>
> Of course, a 4-square has other advantages. If the radial system is good,
> the radiation angle should be lower. I'll have to check that out on some
> long-haul paths. More important, the F/B of the 4-square is much better
than
> the 40-2CD. The 4-square has an F/B of at least 20dB, while the 40-2CD
seems
> to be about 5dB-15dB (hard to measure, but it's clearly not very good.)
This
> could be important when stateside QRM is bad. Also, the 4-square is
> significantly less noisy than the 40-2CD. Finally, the 4-square can switch
> directions instantly. Still, all in all, I'll take the extra forward gain!
I
> should get a chance to check out the 40-2CD in action this weekend in
IARU.
>
> I've always loved the "idea" of a 4-square (an antenna you can build with
no
> concrete and no help), and it really is an excellent compromise antenna,
but
> it just doesn't cut it for bands higher than 80m.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
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>From ve3pn at igs.net Tue Jul 9 06:49:56 2002
From: ve3pn@igs.net (Peter Barron)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #244 - 11 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200207090114.g691Es5r013130@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000101c2270c$75041d90$98f4a8c0@HOMEOFFICE>
Hi Jamie
If you need Kenwood connector pin outs a good location is at
http://ftp.kenwood.net/Amateur/Connectors/?plain
Peter Barron
Ve3pn@igs.net
From: Jaime Robles <jaime@robles.nu>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Home made Digital Voice Keyer and a Kenwood
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Hello all!
I have just finished a DVK (the K6XX one) but it does not work.
Well, i am not a good builder but i have built some kits and circuits
before... maybe i have made a mistake.
The main problem for me is that i have not used a DVK before so i don't know
about how it works...
Could anybody tell me about the connections to a kenwood rig, please? (TS-50
but i think the others have the same pinout).
On the other hand... if you know another DVK circuit and you can tell me
about
the URL i will thank you.
Many thanks.
73.
- --
Un saludo,
Jaime Robles, EA4TV
jaime@robles.nu
Visita http://www.redlibre.net - La Red Libre de todos!
http://smsdx.net - El DXCluster en tu movil!
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>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Tue Jul 9 12:44:25 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (Timo)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OJ Calls Checklist for WRTC2002
Message-ID: <00a901c22724$d7249500$a6c5f83e@tklimoff>
WRTC2002 OJ calls check list is available in Excel (XLS)-format:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/ojcalls.xls
Roland, DK3GI has made this list in PDF-format available in BCC homepage:
http://www.bavarian-contest-club.de/contest/OJ_Checkliste.pdf
73, Timo OH1NOA
>From nt5c at texas.net Tue Jul 9 08:15:03 2002
From: nt5c@texas.net (John Warren)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <000201c226ea$5d32ac80$38f4fea9@paulplay>
References: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
<000201c226ea$5d32ac80$38f4fea9@paulplay>
Message-ID: <p04330108b9508c0b51dd@EIM-Mac-1.0.7>
Paul W8AEF wrote:
>My 4 squares have elevated radials and I have a feeling that they are
>between a 2 element and a 3 element yagi.
In theory, a 4-square is sort of equivalent to a vertically polarized
3-el Yagi. The two corner verticals driven in parallel are a
"distributed" driven element. The other two verticals are a director
and reflector respectively. Obviously that's subject to all the usual
disclaimers about how well the 4-square is made, especially how good
the "ground" is under each element.
Most articles I've read agree with Paul. The end result of a well
implemented 4-square seems usually to be just a bit better for DX
than a 2-el Yagi. So on 40M I'll stick with my much-loved 40-2CD, but
on 80/160....!!
John, NT5C.
>From k7qq at netzero.net Tue Jul 9 15:09:59 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5
References: <143.110c2e1f.2a58cece@aol.com>
<5.1.1.2.2.20020707102918.00ba09d8@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <000901c22752$86d06100$86272a42@k7qq>
W1AW meets all the requirements. /5 for those old enuf to rember when
there was a requirement.
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob, N5RP" <N5RP@pdq.net>
To: "TDXS Reflector" <tdxs-list@moonbounce.n5iq.org>;
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 15:40
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5
> The WRTC thing coming up next weekend .......
>
> The prizes that are mentioned for early log turn in and for working all of
> the OJ stations ..........
> ........... What, exactly, are these prizes ?
> I'm drooling to know.
>
> Also,
> The W1AW/5 stations.......
> Should they identify themselves as W5/W1AW, W1AW/W5, or is, in fact,
W1AW/5
> acceptable?
>
> What meets the properly defined procedural configuration for station
> identification?
>
> If I work them using QRP, can I sign as N5RP/QRP ??
> Bob Perring
> ...........................................
> Amateur Radio Station N5RP
> mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
> N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 9 10:46:50 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 09Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207091646.g69GkoV02066@localhost.localdomain>
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Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
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To participate in this summary, please vist -
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 9 10:49:06 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RSGB Jubilee - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207091649.g69Gn6x02078@localhost.localdomain>
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Surrey CR7 7AF
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http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
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>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Tue Jul 9 23:09:26 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Realtime scoreboard
Message-ID: <20020709190926.YAKP4192.fep02-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.108]>
World Top Contesters air new OJ prefixes from Helsinki, Finland, Saturday 13th
at 12:00 UTC in the World Radiosport Team Championship 2002 ( WRTC2002 )
http://www.wrtc2002.org
Look for an advanced web based scoreboard live at:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/realtime.htm
(available 12:00 UTC 13.7.02 - 12:00 UTC 14.7.02).
Submit your Early Bird log in 6-hours from the end of the contest to qualify
for attractive prices:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm
WRTC2002 Organization
>From N5RP at pdq.net Tue Jul 9 20:35:46 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AEA CK-2 Keyers for sale
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020709193245.00b433d0@pop.pdq.net>
I have two of them.
Both in very good physical condition and all functions operate.
On one of them the #3 push button "sometimes" is hard to engage to make
contact.
Power cubes and manual for each.
Figure they are better served to go to a contest station.
$50.00 each, shipping costs to the account of the buyer.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From k8cc at comcast.net Tue Jul 9 22:45:00 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGICEBOCOAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020709212132.009bc940@mail.comcast.net>
Dick,
Thanks for sharing your observations on your 40M four-square vs. a
40-2CD. My only caveat is to keep in mind that the comparison you make
during the summer will not always jibe with the same comparison in
winter. Radiation angles tend to be higher in the summer which would favor
the low yagi over the verticals. Your observation about the gain of a
four-square being 6 dB *over a vertical* which makes it about even with a
dipole over ground is absolutely correct. However, its not the entire story.
We've been using a wire four-square on 80M here at K8CC since 1994. We've
had just about every kind of 80M DX antenna here at this location: slopers,
delta loops, bobtails, half-squares, a 3L wire yagi and even a beautiful
N4ZC-style log periodic with the center at 110' and the ends at 90'. It's
my opinion (and shared by my guest operators) that none of these antennas
match the four-square, at least on 80M when you're limited to 120' supports.
That is not to say that the others were bad antennas. The simple little
half-square made UN2L's "loud LP 80M signals" list one year. The wire yagi
and N4ZC log periodic made lots of gain and were great pileup
crashers. But until we put up the four-square we couldn't hear down to the
weak layer of EU necessary to be able to run successfully on CW from
W8. Once we put up the four-square, the results were immediately noticable
on our 80M line score, and our 80M op was a lot happier too.
Again, I agree with your observation that verticals (and hence,
four-squares) don't radiate as much signal as a dipole over ground. I've
often found, particularly on 75 SSB that with the four-square we can hear
more DX stations than we can work. With northern Europeans particularly,
I'll call and call a perfectly copiable SM or OH and not even get a QRZ?
from them. My gut says if I could run about four or five KW output the
transmit signal from the four-square would match the ability to
receive. However, my conscience won't let me do that...
A couple of years ago K3LR (who has a great 80M four-square made from
Hy-Towers) decided to try some big horizontal antennas like a W2PV 2L quad
and a 3L linear-loaded yagi. Perhaps he'd like to share his observations
here on the reflector, but neither antenna replaced his four-square.
Finally, the answer for 80M might be different than for 40M...
73,
Dave/K8CC
>From harry at oh6yf.com Wed Jul 10 06:31:13 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC guests are already in Finland! Photos...
References: <200207091646.g69GkoV02066@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <000e01c227b9$dcc20110$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hi!
I have put some more photos to my WRTC photo gallery at:
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
73 de Harry OH6YF
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
>From jjreisert at alum.mit.edu Wed Jul 10 08:34:58 2002
From: jjreisert@alum.mit.edu (Jim Reisert AD1C)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Short 'Power Naps' Found Best Performance Booster
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020710073448.0171e378@mail.attbi.com>
Mon Jul 8, 2:46 PM ET
By Nic Rowan
ADELAIDE, Australia (Reuters Health) - A 10-minute nap is better than a
half-hour snooze at improving work performance, according to new Australian
sleep research.
Associate Professor Leon Lack and postgraduate student Amber Tietzel
studied the effect of varying nap lengths in the School of Psychology Sleep
Laboratory at Flinders University in Adelaide. They conclude that 10
minutes is the most effective nap length for improving performance for up
to 3 hours afterward.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020708/hl_nm/sleep_work_dc_1
--
Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863
USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
>From marco.spalluzzi at orobiacom.it Wed Jul 10 16:45:14 2002
From: marco.spalluzzi@orobiacom.it (Marco Spalluzzi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AC noise
Message-ID: <001101c22818$05940cb0$6ac8a8c0@MARCOSPALLUZZI>
Hi guys, I've got a problem, probably related to ground connections.
When I tx and my amp switches on tx, I hear a little ac noise in the
headphones, but it's not only there, it really goes out.
An US guy said it's little, but you can hear it if one listen carefully.
It's not a gnd problem of the headphones (Heil HC-4), since it's the same
with a desk microphone.
If the amp is on, but I disconnect the relay switch (so it doesn't switch to
tx), the noise disappears.
I replace the relay cable with another one (2 cables + shield), with one
cable connected to the cable shield.
Grounding this or not, nothing changes.
I grounded it through the gnd connector on the back panel of the 775.
Grounding it to the amp, or any other device, could change something? I
think no, ground is ground for everyone.
I made some "disconnect and try" tests, first with unused antennas (it's not
an rf problem, and in fact it didn't help), then with some computer cables,
pc ground, rotator cable, power supply ac cable, ... but I didn't solve it.
Should I connect "signal gnd" to "shield gnd" on each cable?
Or, if connected together, should I separate them?
I really don't know what else disconnect.
Could it be due by an excessive mic gain or compressor gain, or both?
Pse answers here on the reflector, or private to ik2xsl@amsat.org
Thanks in advance, bye Marco - IK2XSL.
>From tony.kaz at verizon.net Wed Jul 10 13:09:14 2002
From: tony.kaz@verizon.net (N2TK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AC noise
In-Reply-To: <001101c22818$05940cb0$6ac8a8c0@MARCOSPALLUZZI>
Message-ID: <000601c2282c$23546240$6401a8c0@tony>
I had some ac reported on my signal on a dxpedition. It didn't happen on all
bands. If I removed the MFJ voice keyer it went away. I isolated the mike
ground from the ac and chassis ground to solve the problem.
Tony
N2TK
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Marco Spalluzzi
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 09:45
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AC noise
Hi guys, I've got a problem, probably related to ground connections.
When I tx and my amp switches on tx, I hear a little ac noise in the
headphones, but it's not only there, it really goes out.
An US guy said it's little, but you can hear it if one listen carefully.
It's not a gnd problem of the headphones (Heil HC-4), since it's the same
with a desk microphone.
If the amp is on, but I disconnect the relay switch (so it doesn't switch to
tx), the noise disappears.
I replace the relay cable with another one (2 cables + shield), with one
cable connected to the cable shield.
Grounding this or not, nothing changes.
I grounded it through the gnd connector on the back panel of the 775.
Grounding it to the amp, or any other device, could change something? I
think no, ground is ground for everyone.
I made some "disconnect and try" tests, first with unused antennas (it's not
an rf problem, and in fact it didn't help), then with some computer cables,
pc ground, rotator cable, power supply ac cable, ... but I didn't solve it.
Should I connect "signal gnd" to "shield gnd" on each cable?
Or, if connected together, should I separate them?
I really don't know what else disconnect.
Could it be due by an excessive mic gain or compressor gain, or both?
Pse answers here on the reflector, or private to ik2xsl@amsat.org
Thanks in advance, bye Marco - IK2XSL.
_______________________________________________
CQ-Contest mailing list
CQ-Contest@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Thu Jul 11 18:08:09 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] On the Bus with WRTC - #1 - 10 July 2002
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020711210809.011d9074@pop.vnet.net>
This is amazing! The number of people and calls and faces showing up
from all over the world -
some familiar from the log and some familiar from face-to-face meetings
past - boggles the
mind. It's like Saturday at 0000Z in the flesh.
My wife Nancy and I arrived yesterday on the 9th, shuttled flawlessly to
the WRTC hotel
headquarters by the efficient OH committee members led by Marje OH1RX.
There is nothing more
welcome after a long flight to a new land than a smiling face holding a
sign with 'WRTC' on it.
We had hardly set foot to ground before being greeted by OH2BH and
company. A milling company
of previous arrivals milled about the lobby and patio of the Radisson
SAS Espoo - WRTC nerve
center for the next week.
The big attraction on opening day is, of course, the beer tent where you
are suddenly
surrounded by a WAZ of friends. There are stories to tell,
congratulations to be made, and
pictures to be taken. Already present was Team Africa, Chris ZS6EZ and
Bernie ZS4TX, holding
their own with a running commentary of humourous observations.
Contesters from Zone 38 need a
certain amount of humor to keep going in the sport.
Also present are the "separated at birth" twins Trey N5KO and Juan
Carlos TG9AJR. If you've
never met this pair, you'd be amazed to learn that they are not
brothers. Trey, of course, is
well known from his many contest wins and the big presence from HC8N and
other Zone 10 calls.
A particularly loquacious trio is Wayne N7NG, Ohms PY5EG, and Walter
DL6QT. Here in a few
square feet is a troika of many years of contesting experiences and
adventures. You can ask
these guys anything - as in anything - and you will learn something
interesting.
The long, long, extra long daylight at 62N kept anyone from feeling the
late hours after their
long journeys. Suddenly, even though the sky said "mid-evening", our
watches said "1 AM" and
the jet lag started making itself felt. It was time to try out our
sleep masks and grab a few
winks.
The 10th found us working down the pileups at the breakfast buffet and
ready for the first of
our preparatory meetings. Appropriately for hams, this meeting was held
in the Dipoli
building. All of the competitors and referees were treated to an
overview of the competition
organization and rules, the basics of our stations, and a new element -
the WRTC Real-Time
Scoreboard.
The scoreboard is an idea that was finally realizable after the three
previous WRTC
competitions. Every hour, the referees will report the team's score to
a central server, using
Finland's legendary GSM mobile phone system. Nokia is a major sponsor
of WRTC-2002 and has
contibuted a number of interesting technologies to make the event both a
success and up-to-date
with the latest in communications.
The score information from each team will be posted to a Web page (see
www.wrtc2002.org for the
link to the page) for people around the world to watch. You will be
able to see simultaneously
the score and ranking of each team starting one hour after the start of
the competition at
1200Z on Saturday.
By the photographs you can see how seriously all of the participants are
taking WRTC and how
much work that the OH committee has done to make the competition a
success. After 90 minutes
of explanation about the competition, OH5JQ presented a fine video about
Finland and Finns.
They're very proud of their country and culture.
After lunch, we're all piled on buses, where I'm writing this. Headed
for Himos and SRAL (the
Finnish national radio society) Summer Camp, we're enjoying a cold soda
pop and the scenery as
we drive north from Helsinki through Lahti and the lake country.
Martti, OH2BH, has done a
good job of explaining the Finnish psyche - which has a lot to do with
three months of little
sun in the winter.
As a humorous interlude, a songbook of parodies of Beatle's song were
prepared by several of us
before WRTC. On the way to Lahti, we had a sing-along of songs like
"Martti Laine" (to the tune
of "Penny Lane") and "When I'm 64" rewritten by K1DG in honor of Jim
Neiger, N6TJ, who is
celebrating his 63rd birthday during the festivities.
All in good fun, of course. So far, there has been a little bit of ham
radio and a lot of
meeting and greeting. Tomorrow things begin to get a little more
serious with training of
referees and detailed review of rules by the competitors. On Friday, we
draw the referee
assignments and pick our secret callsigns - to be opened only minutes
before the competition.
Very quickly, it will be time to begin - as the hours pass, there is a
little more tension and
sharpness in the contester's demeanor. These are, after all, the very
best competitors in the
world getting ready for one of the best contests.
So for today - a toast from the bus on the way to Himos...Kiipis!
(Cheers!)
73, Ward N0AX/OH
>From k4ro at k4ro.net Thu Jul 11 23:39:58 2002
From: k4ro@k4ro.net (K4RO Kirk Pickering)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] On the Bus with WRTC - #1 - 10 July 2002
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020711210809.011d9074@pop.vnet.net>; from
btippett@alum.mit.edu on Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 05:08:09PM -0400
References: <1.5.4.32.20020711210809.011d9074@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <20020711223958.E20896@darkstar.k4ro.net>
Fabulous report from the front. How I wish I was there with you
all. Best of luck to all of the competitors. See you ops on the
air this weekend. 73 from Tennessee. (Thunderstorm-ridden zone 8)
-Kirk K4RO
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 05:08:09PM -0400, W4ZV Bill Tippett wrote:
> This is amazing! The number of people and calls and faces showing up
> from all over the world...
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 12 07:59:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 12Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207121359.g6CDxCB04884@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 12Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
VE5RI 527 1214 41 40 24 818,424
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
VE7AVV 0 809 0 40 15 198,960 BCDX Club
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
K4BAI 181 22 0 0 27,632 SECC
K1GU 118 0 28 0 4 24,920 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE5SF 416 562 39 39 18 579,696
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VA6RA 1 180 1 24 39,050
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VA3WN 142 50 13 10 6 26,542
W0ETT 100 2 25 1 7 21,632 Grand Mesa
W1TO 67 12 15 5 12,680 YCCC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
N4WSM 0 29 0 13 4,550 TCG
W4NZ 32 3 9 2 3,300
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
VE3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 56 41 6 9 12 9,870
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 12 08:00:45 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 ARRL June VHF - Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207121400.g6CE0jq04898@localhost.localdomain>
2002 ARRL June VHF - Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: July 10, 2002
E-mail logs to: JuneVHF@arrl.org
Mail logs to:
June VHF
ARRL
225 Main St.
Newington, CT 06111
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Limited Multi-Op HP
W3SO 997 264 332,904 PVRC
K8CC 663 211 29 169,644 MRRC
NI9E(@N9FH) 692 180 28 124,560 Badger Contesters
K5TR 426 156 78,000
VE6JW 292 120 30 36,360 Aurora VHF Society
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Limited Multi-Op LP
KB1DFB(@KB1H) 502 108 63,936 Eastern Connecticut
VE2ZP 141 67 12 12,194 Capital Region DX Cl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
N0UK 623 274 236,188 Northern Lights Radi
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Rover LP
K4EFD 54 38 15 5,358
K7VE/R 61 35 2,660
KI5DR/R 40 20 14 1,300 CTDXCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op HP
K1TEO 1053 293 28 481,339
K3DNE 669 217 235,445
WB9Z 685 262 30 223,486
W2FU 477 230 23 206,540 Rochester VHF Group
K7RAT(N6TR) 452 153 25 80,325 Boring Amateur Radio
K5AM 364 165 62,205
K3ZO 436 125 22 54,500 PVRC
VE5UF 271 108 20 29,268
N5RZ 197 91 21 17,927
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op LP
N9DG 323 142 59,498 Badger Contesters
N6MU(@N6NB) 488 82 27 47,724 SCCC
W5SXD 169 103 24 21,424
N4GN 168 95 12 15,960 KCG
K8MR 151 81 6 15,795 MRRC
WD5K 186 77 14,322 NTCC
N8BJQ 159 83 12 13,197 SWODXA
VE3CVG 95 51 20 6,630
N7IR 104 46 26 6,164
K0UK 84 48 18 4,032 Grand Mesa
N2YEV 96 31 28 3,627
NL7CO 119 29 20 3,451
W8RU 54 36 4 2,232 MRRC
K5WPN 65 24 8 1,560
K6RIM 57 14 2 798 NCCC
K1VU 26 11 297 YCCC
N4WSM 11 7 84 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op QRP
N6ZZ 96 48 4 4,608
W6RCL 65 25 5 1,750
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op Port LP
W8CAR 42 29 5 1,218 MRRC
AE0Q 38 14 532 Grand Mesa
AB0MV 37 14 518 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
Single Op Port QRP
K9PW 510 189 31 145,908 SMC
W9GKA 111 55 24 7,865
N0JK 27 23 14 621
Operators:
K5TR K5TR,WM5R
K7VE/R K7VE,KD7PRN
K8CC K8CC,K9TM,WX3M
KB1DFB KB1DFB,KE1LI,N1XS
NI9E N9FH,N9LLT,N9VA,NI9E,W9GA
VE2ZP VA2ADB,VE2ZP
VE6JW VE6JW,VE6JY,VE6LDX,VE6MAA,WA2TMC
W3SO AI3M,K3IXD,W3PAW,W3TEF,W3YOZ,WR3Z
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 12 08:03:15 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU FD, CW - All Final Claimed Scores
Message-ID: <200207121403.g6CE3Fj04915@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU FD, CW - All Final Claimed Scores
Submit logs by: (see your national society rules)
E-mail logs to: (see your national society rules)
Mail logs to:
(see your national society rules)
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Open HP
S55A/P 1296 206 881,062 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Open LP
DK0WT/P(DK2GZ) 910 168 528,192
S58U/P 928 145 24 463,275
DL0KD/P 633 136 24 291,720 RR DX
DF0BK/P 667 120 24 274,440
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Multi-Op Restricted LP
GM3POI/P 1152 159 24 631,866 Orkney ARC
DL0UP/P 925 170 24 540,770 L11
G0RGH/P 535 0 24 2,268 Harwich Amateur Radi
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Fixed HP
F5IN 724 126 323,064 U.F.T.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Fixed LP
LY1DS 258 55 3 51,590 Lithuanian DX
YL2PN 100 30 3 393 Latvian CC
S52MY 5 21 1 105
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Open HP
VE3XAX 354 76 19 89,224 U-VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Cntry hr Score Club
All Single Op Open LP
S51JM/P 170 67 9 40,401
Operators:
DF0BK/P DL4SDW,DL4SDX,DL5SEJ,DL8SCG
DL0KD/P DJ5CU,DL1EKC,DL2EBH
DL0UP/P DL1EFD,DL1EFO
G0RGH/P G0DVJ,G0SCP,G3ZQU,G4AQZ,G4EYE,G4FTP,G4WHK,M0CGE
GM3POI/P G3MXJ,GM3POI
S55A/P S53Z,S55A,S56A,S57AD,S57NWT,S57RW,S57UKE,S58O,
S59KW
S58U/P S51VA,S51VI,S53AU,S57LO,S57RR,S59AV
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 12 11:23:55 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FCC Wants Your Input
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020712142355.011ed77c@pop.vnet.net>
Here's a copy of a message I put on the DX List:
"While on the subject of the new 5 MHz and 137 kHz bands, ARRL
summarized the FCC's NPRM here:
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2002/05/15/100/
In particular, note the following:
"The FCC has proposed letting amateurs
operate at full legal limit on
a new 5 MHz allocation, but it left
open for further discussion
whether to restrict the band to Amateur
Extra Class licensees or make
it available to General and higher
class licensees. The FCC also
invited further comment on whether the
band should be broken
down into mode-specific subbands. The
ARRL had proposed opening the entire band
to RTTY, data (including CW), phone and
image emission types."
The FCC's NPRM is here:
http://www.arrl.org/announce/regulatory/et02-98/
with the specific paragraphs regarding these issues here:
39. It appears that amateur radio operators should be able to avoid
interference to primary operations in this band due to the
limited numbers of primary assignments[92] which are authorized for
operation in the 5250-5400 kHz band, and their
experience in sharing HF frequencies in other bands. The operational
protocol of "listen before transmit" employed by amateur
radio operators should further minimize interference. We note that currently
this technique is not explicitly required by our Rules
and we request comment on whether it should be explicitly stated in the
Rules in order to protect the primary operators in the
5250-5400 kHz band. We propose to limit the output power of the amateur
stations to 1500 W PEP as requested by ARRL.
Further, we invite comments as to whether the 5250-5400 kHz band should be
restricted to Amateur radio operators with an
Amateur Extra Class license to better ensure compatible sharing with the
Federal Government operations, or could the band
also be made available to operators with a General or Advanced Class license
just as in the 10,100-10,150 kHz band (30
meter band). [93] We invite comment on whether the power limit and operator
license requirement are sufficient to prevent
interference to primary users, and whether an EIRP limit would also be
appropriate for this frequency band. We also invite
comment on other means that will reduce potential interference.
40. The 5000 kHz Petition does not discuss sub-banding and ARRL's suggested
rules would allow all emission types to use
the entire band.[94] We note that several commenters suggest that
sub-banding would be useful. We further note that Section
97.305 of our Rules segregates digital modes from other amateur station
emission modes in the 3500 kHz and 7000 kHz bands
to protect narrow band emissions like data from wider emissions like
single-side band voice.[95] We request comment on
whether sub-banding is necessary and/or appropriate for the 5000 kHz band as
well.
I personally believe sub-banding should be done with a simple
demarcation between narrowband (CW, digital) and wideband (phone,
image) just as we have on every other HF band except 160 meters. On
160, I've personally experienced numerous problems with inter-modal
interference over the past 18 years, and that is whay I was a
co-sponsor of RM-10352 which proposed a simple demarcation of 1840 and
below for narrowband modes only.
If you want to submit comments to the FCC, it is VERY simple
to do. Just go to this site:
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi
enter only 02-98 in Box 1, fill out the other "required" boxes
(2,3,7,8,9,10 and 12), and submit your comments either as an attached
file (using the first form in Adobe PDF, MS Word, MS Excel,
WordPerfect, ASCII or Lotus 123) or, more simply, just type your
comments in the bottom Brief Comment form. After you submit,
a confirmation screen will appear and you click "Finish Transaction
and Receive Confirmation". A final confirmation screen should appear
with your name and a confirmation number if all is accepted correctly.
In summary, the FCC's questions about 5 MHz are:
1. Power limit of 1500 watts OK?
2. Amateur Extra or General and above?
3. Is sub-banding necessary and appropriate? If you feel
it is, you might want to suggest a dividing line such as 5250-5300
for narrowband only (CW, digital).
I feel ARRL generally represents our interests well, but the
FCC has made it very simple for all of us to make comments directly.
If you feel you want to make your voice heard, take a few minutes to
do so now before the comment window closes July 29. If we don't,
we have nobody (including ARRL) to blame but ourselves.
73, Bill W4ZV
P.S. If any of you have problems with the FCC site, E-mail me
directly and I'll be happy to help."
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 12 11:50:05 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
Message-ID: <017301c229bb$cc4c97b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Hello everyone. I am going crazy here. I have looked and double-looked at
posts about submitting early-bird logs for the WRTC/IARU, and at the WRTC
web site, and nowhere can I find an email address to send the early-bird log
to. I am assuming it is different from where you submit your official
contest entries and also from the WRTC submission address, since the
instructions say:
"The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU
2002 contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002
contest committee...."
Can someone straighten me out? Thanks.
Mark, N5OT
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 12 18:42:11 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020712164211.011c9394@pop.vnet.net>
N5OT wrote:
>nowhere can I find an email address to send the early-bird log to.
http://www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm
Logs:
Only e-mail logs (ASCII) are accepted.
The preferred log formats are Cabrillo, CT.ALL and TR.DAT.
The "Early Bird" logs should be submitted by 18.00 UTC on Sunday, July 14,
2002. Regular latest submission date is July 31, 2002.
All logs should be sent via e-mail to: logs@wrtc2002.org
NOTE: The subject field of the e-mail should contain your contest callsign,
e.g. " Subject: WRTC2002 OH2AAA"
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n2mg at eham.net Fri Jul 12 16:03:26 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
Message-ID: <200207121803.g6CI3P5r019617@contesting.com>
I've been looking at the same thing and if I understand it right...
It seems the confusion stems from that fact that participating in the
WRTC as a non-WRTCer (for, say, the worked all WRTC) and participating
in IARU are really two different things. Concurrent but not equivalent?
For WRTC-related prizes one needs to submit by 31-Jul (or by 18.00 UTC
on Sunday, July 14, 2002 for EARLY BIRD)
and for the above, email to: logs@wrtc2002.org
For IARU itself,
http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2002/rules-iaru.html
> > 10.1. Entries must be postmarked or emailed no later than 30 days
> > after the end of the contest (August 13, 2002). No late entries can
> > be accepted. Entries that are received after mid-October 2002, even
> > if mailed in time, may not be received in time to be included in
> > the official results.
And here's another address:
> > 10.2.5. Entries sent as attachments to email must be sent to
IARUHF@iaru.org.
Same logs....two email addresses...
Right?
73 Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by Mark Beckwith <swca@swbell.net> on Fri, 12
Jul 2002 10:50:05 -0500.
> Hello everyone. I am going crazy here. I have looked and double-looked at
> posts about submitting early-bird logs for the WRTC/IARU, and at the WRTC
> web site, and nowhere can I find an email address to send the early-bird log
> to. I am assuming it is different from where you submit your official
> contest entries and also from the WRTC submission address, since the
> instructions say:
>
> "The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU
> 2002 contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002
> contest committee...."
>
> Can someone straighten me out? Thanks.
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
>From ua3ap at mail.ru Fri Jul 12 23:31:31 2002
From: ua3ap@mail.ru (Sergei Kulyov)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 - Special OJ Callsigns, A Reminder
In-Reply-To: <01c22672$1d855600$abc5f83e@default>
Message-ID: <E17T5CV-000Evg-00@f13.mail.ru>
Hello to everybody. The latest news from the WRTC2002 tell about 54 stations on
the air. The Excell spreadsheet gives only 52.
What are two extra calls?
Thanks and GL in WRTC2002!
73, Sergei - UA3AP
-----Original Message-----
From: "Ari Korhonen" <ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi>
To: <wrtc2002@ne.nal.go.jp>, "Editors"
<editors@n4gn.com>,<cq-contest@contesting.com>, "CCF" <ccf@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 - Special OJ Callsigns, A Reminder
>
>
> Worked All WRTC2002 - "Worked All New OJ prefixes"
>
> Get your log in immediately after the contest and Win Valuable "Early
> Bird" prizes - WRTC2002 special incentive for 6-hour log-in!
>
> OJ1- OJ8 prefixes activated for the 1st time!
>
> The WRTC2002 teams will be using special 2x1 type of callsigns with special
OJ1-OJ8 prefixes (e.g. OJ1M). The OJ1-OJ8 prefixes are activated for the first
time in history to honour WRTC2002 - the Olympics of Amateur Radio contesting
in Finland.
>
> The list of OJ callsigns is as follows:
> OJ1C OJ1F OJ1M OJ1N OJ1S OJ1W OJ1X
> OJ2F OJ2H OJ2J OJ2Q OJ2V OJ2Y OJ2Z
> OJ3A OJ3D OJ3N OJ3R OJ3T OJ3X
> OJ4A OJ4M OJ4N OJ4S OJ4W
> OJ5A OJ5E OJ5M OJ5T OJ5U OJ5W OJ5Z
> OJ6C OJ6E OJ6K OJ6N OJ6W OJ6X OJ6Y
> OJ7A OJ7C OJ7M OJ7N OJ7S OJ7W OJ7X
> OJ8A OJ8E OJ8K OJ8L OJ8N OJ8W
>
> You can download an Excel -checklist for the contest from:
> http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/ojcalls.xls
>
>
> Worked All WRTC2002 - Rules for non-WRTC2002 stations
>
> * The same WRTC2002 station can be worked once on CW and once on SSB on
> each band.
> * Each correct two-way CW or SSB QSO with a WRTC2002 station counts 1
> point. A duplicate QSO on same band and mode counts 0 points.
> * Score = total sum of QSO points
> Logs:
> Only e-mail logs (ASCII) are accepted.
> The preferred log formats are Cabrillo, CT.ALL and TR.DAT.
> The "Early Bird" logs should be submitted by 18.00 UTC on Sunday, July 14,
> 2002. Regular latest submission date is July 31, 2002.
> All logs should be sent via e-mail to: logs@wrtc2002.org
> NOTE: The subject field of the e-mail should contain your contest callsign,
> e.g. " Subject: WRTC2002 OH2AAA"
>
> Request for stations working the IARU 2002 contest
> The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU 2002
contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002 contest
committee to be used as reference data within the official WRTC2002
log-checking procedure. The committee guarantees that these logs will be used
only for cross checking purposes of the WRTC2002 team championship.
>
> NOTE: All e-mail logs submitted within 6 hours after the contest ends will
participate in a lottery with special WRTC2002 prizes.
>
> Awards & Categories
> The following "Worked All WRTC2002" awards will be issued based on the above
contest rules:
> "Worked All WRTC2002" awards
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op CW
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op SSB
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Single op Mixed
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op CW
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op SSB
> Worked all WRTC2002 - Multi op Mixed
> Worked all WRTC2002 - IARU HQ stations
>
> Awards will be given to the stations with highest number of points in the
following
> categories:
> 1st 2nd 3rd
> World
> Europe
> North America
> South America
> Asia
> Africa
> Oceania
> HQ Stations
> OH - Finland
> Special Plaques
> Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - CW
> Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - SSB
> Worked all WRTC2002 Stations - Mixed
>
> Other Prizes
> T-shirts (DX) Worked 130 WRTC2002 qsos
> T-shirts (EU) Worked 200 WRTC2002 qsos
>
>
> WRTC2002 ORGANIZING COMMITTEE (via OH1EH)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Fri Jul 12 15:51:11 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
References: <200207121803.g6CI3P5r019617@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <3D2F251F.911F8F2@gte.net>
"Mike Gilmer, N2MG" wrote:
> It seems the confusion stems from that fact that participating in the
> WRTC as a non-WRTCer (for, say, the worked all WRTC) and participating
> in IARU are really two different things. Concurrent but not
> equivalent?
The "early-bird" logs sent to logs@wrtc2002.org are used to check the
WRTC competitors logs (and for WRTC prizes/awards)
The logs sent to IARUHF@iaru.org
is the "official" log submission address (like always) where they are
checked and eventually published in QST.
> Same logs....two email addresses...
If you want to submit your log for WRTC log-checking and the WRTC
prizes/awards ... Yes.
If you don't, then to IARUHF@iaru.org only.
Ron
>From n2mg at eham.net Fri Jul 12 17:00:58 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 - Special OJ Callsigns, A Reminder
Message-ID: <200207121900.g6CJ0v5r020335@contesting.com>
N0AX mentioned "54 nearly identical stations" - perhaps either a
mistake, or there are 2 spares.
52 is the right number - it's consistent with the list of calls on the
site, the team/referee page and the spreadsheet.
Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by "Sergei Kulyov" <ua3ap@mail.ru> on Fri, 12
Jul 2002 22:31:31 +0400.
> Hello to everybody. The latest news from the WRTC2002 tell about 54 stations
> on
> the air. The Excell spreadsheet gives only 52.
> What are two extra calls?
>
> Thanks and GL in WRTC2002!
>
>From ah3c at frii.com Fri Jul 12 14:57:27 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AH3C EMERGENCY !!!
References: <01c22672$1d855600$abc5f83e@default>
Message-ID: <005101c229de$5aaf1f60$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Please get a hold of Peter H Grillo( AH3C) at the WRTC 2002 and advise him
to call his daughter Liz at (916)734-2994 Pediatric ICU Room #5. His
grandson Josh had an emergency appendectimy...three days after his
appendics burts. It is touch and go.
Tks, Ah3c xyl, Judy
>From n2nl at yahoo.com Fri Jul 12 14:16:38 2002
From: n2nl@yahoo.com (David Mueller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WRTC2002 0726] AH3C EMERGENCY !!!
In-Reply-To: <005101c229de$5aaf1f60$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <20020712201638.6465.qmail@web21405.mail.yahoo.com>
Pete has been notified.....
73, Dave OH\N2NL
--- AH3C <ah3c@frii.com> wrote:
> Please get a hold of Peter H Grillo( AH3C) at the
> WRTC 2002 and advise him
> to call his daughter Liz at (916)734-2994 Pediatric
> ICU Room #5. His
> grandson Josh had an emergency appendectimy...three
> days after his
> appendics burts. It is touch and go.
> Tks, Ah3c xyl, Judy
>
>
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>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Sat Jul 13 01:38:37 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
Message-ID: <20020712213837.HVSX20539.fep06-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.110]>
IARU contest itself and WRTC2002 are two different things.
If you want to send your log for IARU contest, use IARUHF@iaru.org.
For WRTC2002 Early Bird prizes + log checking email is:
logs@wrtc2002.org . We will use these logs for checking the WRTC2002
competitors logs only and they will not be forwarded to ARRL.
73 Timo OH1NOA/2
WRTC2002 HQ, Espoo
PS: If you want to know which team has which referee/host, check now our web
site http://www.wrtc2002.org > Online news.
>
> L?hett?j?: "Mike Gilmer, N2MG"<n2mg@eham.net>
> P?iv?ys: 2002/07/12 pe PM 09:03:26 GMT+03:00
> Vastaanottaja: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Kopio: Mark Beckwith <swca@swbell.net>
> Aihe: Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU Early-Bird submissions
>
> I've been looking at the same thing and if I understand it right...
>
> It seems the confusion stems from that fact that participating in the
> WRTC as a non-WRTCer (for, say, the worked all WRTC) and participating
> in IARU are really two different things. Concurrent but not equivalent?
>
> For WRTC-related prizes one needs to submit by 31-Jul (or by 18.00 UTC
> on Sunday, July 14, 2002 for EARLY BIRD)
>
> and for the above, email to: logs@wrtc2002.org
>
>
> For IARU itself,
>
> http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2002/rules-iaru.html
>
> > > 10.1. Entries must be postmarked or emailed no later than 30 days
> > > after the end of the contest (August 13, 2002). No late entries can
> > > be accepted. Entries that are received after mid-October 2002, even
> > > if mailed in time, may not be received in time to be included in
> > > the official results.
>
> And here's another address:
>
> > > 10.2.5. Entries sent as attachments to email must be sent to
> IARUHF@iaru.org.
>
> Same logs....two email addresses...
>
> Right?
>
> 73 Mike N2MG
>
>
> The following message was sent by Mark Beckwith <swca@swbell.net> on Fri, 12
> Jul 2002 10:50:05 -0500.
>
> > Hello everyone. I am going crazy here. I have looked and double-looked at
> > posts about submitting early-bird logs for the WRTC/IARU, and at the WRTC
> > web site, and nowhere can I find an email address to send the early-bird log
> > to. I am assuming it is different from where you submit your official
> > contest entries and also from the WRTC submission address, since the
> > instructions say:
> >
> > "The WRTC2002 organising committee kindly asks stations working the IARU
> > 2002 contest to also send their electronic IARU contest logs to the WRTC2002
> > contest committee...."
> >
> > Can someone straighten me out? Thanks.
> >
> > Mark, N5OT
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From ww3s at zoominternet.net Fri Jul 12 18:43:53 2002
From: ww3s@zoominternet.net (Jamie WW3S)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 160m during IARU?
Message-ID: <00b301c229ed$37d09640$6501a8c0@zoominternet.net>
Is there much activity on topband during IARU? Trying to determine if its
worth the effort to get the inv l back up for what may only be a few
mults.....
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 12 18:11:42 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Thanks...?
Message-ID: <01e001c229f1$1de15900$0100a8c0@TL01>
All who responded are assuming that Early-Bird entries go to the same place
as regular entries. Every response quoted the rules, which I quoted in my
original email as well.
IMO this is not clear, since IMO the rules only tell you where to send your
actual regular entries, and clearly state that, *in addition to this,* you
"also" send your log within 6 hours "to the...contest committee," but, IMO,
give no address for the contest committee, unless it coincidentally happens
to *also* be the regular log submission address. That's an assumption.
Whatever. I don't need to debate the fine points of rules clarity. I'll
just send mine where everyone else is sending theirs.
Thanks for clearing that up...?! See you on the air.
Mark, N5OT
>From mjwetzel at comcast.net Fri Jul 12 18:49:28 2002
From: mjwetzel@comcast.net (Mike Wetzel)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 160m during IARU?
In-Reply-To: <00b301c229ed$37d09640$6501a8c0@zoominternet.net>
Message-ID: <NCBBIPEKMKEIENBFHFHJKEHGFEAA.mjwetzel@comcast.net>
Jamie,
Yes, there will probably be only a few mults but that's a few more than none
on 160!
I assume people will try on the hour!
Mike W9RE
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Jamie WW3S
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 4:44 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] 160m during IARU?
>
>
> Is there much activity on topband during IARU? Trying to determine if its
> worth the effort to get the inv l back up for what may only be a few
> mults.....
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From harry at oh6yf.com Sat Jul 13 05:39:48 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] New WRTC Photos now online!
References: <4.2.0.58.20020709212132.009bc940@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000a01c22a0e$2d1c3fd0$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hi all!
My new WRTC photos are now online at
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
73 de Harry OH6YF
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
>From dennis.mcalpine at verizon.net Fri Jul 12 22:59:14 2002
From: dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net (Dennis McAlpine)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
Message-ID: <000001c22a11$87cf0fe0$b69ffea9@oemcomputer>
My friend N2UN, who lives in an antenna deprived part of NYC, has successfully
managed to put up an R-7000 vertical antenna at his office. He is talking to a
Kachina at his office from his apartment via the phone lines and using some
x-10 devices to turn the power on and off.
Now like any good contester, Tony is trying how to use this remotely activated
station in a contest. His question is how do you use the Kachina operating
software at thesame time as a contest logging program, e.g. WriteLog, CT, NA,
etc. Has anyone had any experience with this probem and how did you do it?
Thanks for the help. It mayget another station on the air for us all to work.
73,
Dennis, K2SX
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>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Sat Jul 13 10:24:36 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 and "early bird" logs
Message-ID: <01c22a35$f5c8b540$LocalHost@default>
The IARU World HF Championship is right around the corner, within which
WRTC2002 is run (13-14th July).
Just a quick reminder to everyone that the WRTC2002 organizing committee
would like as many participants as possible to e-mail their contest logs
by 1800 UTC on July 14. These "early bird" logs will be used only for
log checking purposes related to the WRTC2002 teams.
Please use the following email address: logs@wrtc2002.org
There are incentives for doing this, please visit
www.wrtc2002.org/rules_all.htm for the details.
Ari, OH1EH
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sat Jul 13 12:15:15 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The day of opening ceremonies and WRTC2002 Dinner
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020713101515.01209830@pop.vnet.net>
Ward, N0AX reports:
On the Bus with WRTC - #2 - 11 July 2002
Yesterday was a fun day - introductions, bus rides, cold beer (there's a
heat wave in Finland this week), and great food.
Now we are seeing the serious side of the competition.
Starting after dinner on Wednesday, both the competitors and referees had
the first of a series of meetings to review the
rules of the game. All of the competitors want to make the most of every
technique available to them, but none want to
be disqualified or appear dishonest. Similarly, the referees want to know
exactly how to interpret the rules and what to
do in case of a perceived infraction.
There are a LOT of detailed, knowledgable questions from both. For example,
the question arose, "In the 10-minute
QRT period before the contest, can the competitors be listening to the
bands?" (The rules are posted on the WRTC
Web site, www.wrtc2002.org.) This might seem a small thing, but it would
allow the team to prepare a "band map" of
multipliers (ITU zones or HQ stations). They could then start the contest
with enough knowledge to put several
multipliers in the log that may not be available later. All teams should be
allowed to listen during the QRT period or all
should be equally forbidden to do so. It was decided that listening was
forbidden until the starting bell rings at 1200Z.
The participants are seasoned contesters - both those operating the
stations and those charged with monitoring rule
enforcement. These people are clever and motivated to do their best. It is
in the interest of the sport to have clear rules
and fair enforcement, so a lot of time is spent in the days before the
contest judging these unobvious cases. In a
"spinoff" effect, the questions being raised and answered at WRTC can also
be applied in many cases to regular
contesting. By having the top competitors meet at one place, as with WRTC,
the exchange of views and decisions can
happen in minutes, instead of across contest seasons.
A new feature of WRTC that has raised some interesting issues this year is
the Real-Time Scoreboard. (check the
WRTC2002 Web site for details) For the first time, the competitor's claimed
scores will be available to the general
public (and contest participants) world-wide DURING THE CONTEST via a Web
page. The referees are charged with
using the Finnish GSM mobile phone system to send a short text message once
an hour with the team score. The SMS
(Short Messaging Service) is used to transmit the information, which is
delivered automatically to a computer. The
score is then retrieved from the message and added to the on-line data
base, where it is posted as a large bar chart for
viewing. It will be updated on the Web every 30 seconds, with most score
changes occuring within a few minutes of the
top of the hour.
This is truly groundbreaking! The first tiny steps toward real-time
visibility of a contest are taking place. This will
expose many more amateurs to the dynamics of contesting, as well as members
of the general public that may take an
interest in this strange Radiosport business.
Real-time score availability does have the ability to affect the way the
contest happens, of course. Radiosport is unique
in that members of the amateur radio public are expected, indeed required,
to participate in order for the contest to be a
success. It's as if a golf tournament gallery were required to catch the
ball and throw it back onto the fairway a few feet.
While improved visibility is definitely a good thing, there are also
potential negative consequences. For example, if one
team is lagging and their countrymen are able to identify them by their
voices or other nuances of their operation, they
might be motivated to "help out" by encouraging other local hams to get on
and contact that team. There are other
similar concerns. The organizing committee evaluated these concerns and
decided that the potential for negative
effects was greatly outweighed by the positive benefits visibility would
bring. In addition, it was felt that there were
factors that would affect the competition much more strongly--weather,
propagation, and general operator skill.
Therefore, the real-time scoreboard remains. Be sure to check it out!
Did I mention weather in that last sentence? Finns are feeling
uncomfortable this week because daily high temperatures
are hitting nearly 30 degrees, even up-country in the lake district of
Himos and Jamsa where we are before heading to
our host's stations. This is uncommonly hot for Finland, also known as
Suomi. While it makes for some sweaty brows
on people from cool climates, I don't think it is bothering the Texans,
Italians, South Africans, or Argentines. Yet, we
have some thunderstorms moving through the area tonight and tomorrow and
then for the contest weekend, things
should be a bit cooler and clearer.
The Opening Ceremony was quite the show, under a very large Big Tent over
more than 50 meters in diameter. All of
the competitors filed inside as for the Olympics, grouped by countries and
wearing their WRTC shirts. The teams
completely encircled the audience, serenaded by a fine jazz group. "The
Saints Come Marching In" started off the
parade, believe it or not, earning a laugh from the crowd that rapidly
turned to applause as their favorites appeared.
Tonight we have the more formal WRTC Opening Dinner with a speech from the
Contest Club of Finland's (CCF)
president and other dignitaries and members of the previous WRTC
committees. The brainchild of Danny Eskenazi
K7SS has certainly grown up to stand on its own two feet at the ripe old
age of 12.
I expect the late night schmoozing and conversations to QRT a little early
tonight (although the sky might still be
bright) for all of the operators and those who will supervise them to get
caught up on sleep and dispell the final
smidgens of jet lag. Tomorrow brings one final set of meetings and then on
to the host stations! The WRTC2002 has
done a marvelous job in setting up 54 nearly identical stations, all
checked out and ready for operation. But who could
rest easy, having come all this way, with so much on the line?
The clock is ticking in Finland...Kiipis! (Cheers!)
73, Ward N0AX/OH
PS - Don't forget to send in a log within 6 hours of the contest to
participate in the WRTC-sponsored raffle. There are
also special prizes for working as many of the OJ competitor callsigns as
possible. Check www.wrtc2002.org for details.
>From nn4t at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 13 09:12:55 2002
From: nn4t@bellsouth.net (Steve Daniel)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ft1000mp and computer interface
Message-ID: <016001c22a6f$0170c7a0$c273d6d1@nn4t>
I can't seem to get my 1000mp to communicate with the computer. I recall
reading that something in the radio needed to be altered from the factory
default so that band info, etc., can be transferred from the radio to
WriteLog, NA, etc. Anyone happen to know if this is correct? Thanks! Steve,
NN4T.
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sat Jul 13 14:25:43 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Realtime scores
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020713122543.0120dc04@pop.vnet.net>
Wow! Is this cool or what! PP5JR/PY1KN off to a huge lead
after the first hour...almost so huge I wonder if there was
a mistake!
http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/tilanne.pl?hpng=WRTC
73, Bill W4ZV
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sat Jul 13 14:53:09 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] On the Bus with WRTC - #3 - 12 July 2002
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020713125309.011d4a9c@pop.vnet.net>
Ward, N0AX reports:
Well, here I am back on the bus to Helsinki after a fast-paced couple of
days at the Himos resort with all the other
WRTC participants. We are a little bit tired--some are dozing against the
windows--but I think that mostly we are all
anxious to get to our host's stations and get started. The contest is now
about 24 hours away.
I am a referee for the team of UA2FZ and RW3WR who will be operating from
the home of OH2BAH, about 50 km
northwest of Helsinki. I have never met any of those gentlemen before.
Except for many contest QSOs, of course. The
plan is for all of us to meet back at the hotel, drive to the host station,
set up and then return to Helsinki. We will then
return the next morning and complete the preparations.
All of the WRTC stations have the same antennas--a triband beam for 20-10
meters with 2 elements on each band and
a Windom antenna for 40-80. The organizers have done a great job of getting
52 similar operating sites ready. They
have installed antennas in addition to whatever the host may have already.
Some of the hosts have substantial
stations--just as in previous WRTC's--but we will be unable to take
advantage of the "Big Aluminum".
This is one of the interesting elements of the competition. Most of the
competitors have done the bulk of their
operating at top of the line stations or from rare QTH's. Now they get to
operate with most of the hardware- or
callsign-related advantages removed.
How many will remember what it is like to operate with 100 watts and low
antennas? We will see on Sunday night.
There has been a lot of discussion about the propagation we can expect and
whether the "home field advantage" will
tip the scales in favor of the Russian or Finnish teams. So far, solar
conditions look good, but the lack of deep darkness
makes the low bands a big question to most teams.
This may be an advantage for regional competitors. Since my team is from
UA2 (between ES and SP) and Moscow, I
will be watching with great interest to see if they can take advantage of
their experience. By the way, along with the
WRTC participants, Himos is also home to the SRAL Summer Camp, which is
roughly equivalent to an extended
hamfest where hams come and camp out for many days. Between the hotel and
lake there are rows of campers and
trailers, with wire antennas or verticals extending up and out into the trees.
Every cabin is either full of our WRTC group or with OH hams for the Summer
Camp. Several have trailers loaded
with the same cross section of interesting equipment and--would you believe
it--junk we find at US hamfests. I suspect
as we are leaving on Friday, our places are rapidly filling with Summer
Camp inhabitants. Let me describe Himos a little
bit. North of Helsinki, the flat landscape begins to roll a little bit and
then breaks into hills of a few hundred meters.
Lakes are everywhere and Himos is between a couple of the larger hills on
the shore of a large lake. If you are looking
for Himos on a map, it may be difficult to find. Try looking for Jamsa,
about 200 km directly north of Helsinki.
Himos is about 10 km northeast of Jamsa. The resort accomodates a few
hundred in cabins, tents, and mobiles. The
forest and grass are deep green and not dried out in mid-summer at all. The
lake water is clean and moderately cool,
ideal for swimming and there are nearly always one or two Finns taking a
dip. You can also see some sauna inhabitants
strolling outside to the water, cooling off, and returning to the heat.
Some fish, some stroll, and in our case, some enjoy
each other's company. The final activity this morning, before lunch and
breaking camp, was the selection of team
callsigns and the introduction of the referees and hosts to the teams. This
is always the most dramatic moment before
the contest as the referees receive a sealed envelope containing the
special callsign, not to be opened until 10 minutes
before the contest begins. Each team captain was called to the front of the
watching audience.
He selected an envelope from a long line laid out at the feet of the chief
referee, Roger Western G3SXW. The referee
and host for the team were then announced and all three met for the first
time in front of all of us. At the conclusion of
52 separate envelope selections, the competition is set. Everyone knows the
who and where and when. My next
installment will come after the contest is all over. I will be monitoring
each QSO of my team--all 24 hours worth. No
sleeping for the referee! We will meet back at the hotel and start the
delicate process of executing "Howdjadoo?" See
you then! Kiipis!
Harry, OH6YF has now more photos from SRAL Summercamp, check
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com/
>From nn4t at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 13 10:29:41 2002
From: nn4t@bellsouth.net (Steve Daniel)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: ft1000mp and computer interface
Message-ID: <018c01c22a79$babc30a0$c273d6d1@nn4t>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Daniel" <nn4t@bellsouth.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 8:12 AM
Subject: ft1000mp and computer interface
> I can't seem to get my 1000mp to communicate with the computer. I recall
> reading that something in the radio needed to be altered from the factory
> default so that band info, etc., can be transferred from the radio to
> WriteLog, NA, etc. Anyone happen to know if this is correct? Thanks!
Steve,
> NN4T.
>
>From sm2ekm at telia.com Sat Jul 13 19:20:02 2002
From: sm2ekm@telia.com (Jan Erik Holm)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Realtime scores
References: <1.5.4.32.20020713122543.0120dc04@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <3D305332.3050204@telia.com>
Yes this is super neat! Too bad these guys are so close
to me cuz they are very hard to work on the high bands,
100W and tribander at 50ft doesn?t create any backscatter
signal to brag about, maybe I can work some on 80/40
tonight.
73 SM2EKM
PS: PP5JR/PY1KN is all academic now, now the old super
op?s are in the lead.
-------------------------------------------------------
Bill Tippett wrote:
>Wow! Is this cool or what! PP5JR/PY1KN off to a huge lead
>after the first hour...almost so huge I wonder if there was
>a mistake!
>
>http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/tilanne.pl?hpng=WRTC
>
>73, Bill W4ZV
>
>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Sat Jul 13 17:22:41 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Realtime scoreboard - A Reminder
Message-ID: <01c22a70$5df2eb60$LocalHost@default>
Hi guys,
Just a reminder
Look for advanced web based scoreboard live at:
http://www.wrtc2002.org/realtime.htm
(available 12:00 UTC 13.7.02 - 12:00 UTC 14.7.02).
Ari, OH1EH
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Sat Jul 13 21:19:18 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] are you guys following this on the web!
Message-ID: <000e01c22acc$18829060$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
At the half way point the competition for the top seeds seems to continue to
contain the same three teams....
At 0000Z DL2CC and DL6FBL are one half a percent ahead of N5TJ and K1TO with
RA3AUU and RV1AW in third...
TVI/RFI forced me to QRT and go home so I have been following the web
coverage of the event....
These three teams have pretty much been together in the top three for most
of the contest so far...
The long in the tooth team of N6TJ and N6AA is hanging in there with the
"kids" at 5th currently....
Lots to look at - undoubtedly some beautiful graphs will come out of this
information...very very cool.....
If you haven't gone there yet - go to:
http://wrtc.jouni.net/WRTC/
the bar graph is awesome - not how many of these stations are so closely
grouped together!
EXCELLENT WORK FINNS!
73,
Jim, K4OJ (OJ on the end)
>From w9wi at w9wi.com Sat Jul 13 21:53:10 2002
From: w9wi@w9wi.com (Doug Smith W9WI)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Unsportsmanlike Conduct
Message-ID: <20020713205310.A4767@w9wi.com>
I'm sure most of us have encountered something we'd call cheating as we
contest. What I observed this evening was the most blatant example I've
ever experienced.
0059z on 14077.3. I'm CQing, running Europeans and W's.
LZ7H calls, about S2. I send him "5NN 8". He gets out "R 5N..", then..
"CQ TEST LZ7T LZ7T LZ7T LZ7T..." (I didn't count how many times he signed
but it was at least five) S8-S9.
I send "LZ7T QRX LZ7H NR ?". And LZ7T jams him again.
After three tries I finally hear LZ7H well enough to verify he's sending the
same zone the computer is suggesting. I log the QSO and send "TU W9WI
TEST".
And never hear from LZ7T again. (i.e., he was jamming LZ7H, not me)
If I were LZ7H I would have probably would have QSYd to 11 meters where
people are better-behaved. Unfortunately I have no quick way of recording
signals during a contest, or a recording would already be on the way to
Newington.
I'm curious, did anyone else who worked LZ7H notice similar behavior?
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com
>From w2up at mindspring.com Sun Jul 14 14:28:39 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
Message-ID: <3D317C87.22504.47D9C0C@localhost>
I sent my log to logs@wrtc2002.org, but didn't get any kind of
confirmation. Should I have?
Barry--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From k7qq at netzero.net Sun Jul 14 15:47:17 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
References: <3D317C87.22504.47D9C0C@localhost>
Message-ID: <00a001c22b45$5bc26700$35252a42@k7qq>
Quacks's
I don't think they are send confirmations, I sent my logs with about 5 hrs.
to go. Maybe I'll get a REAL early bird award. It was my Bed time.
I didn't get a confirm from them!!!!
Rex
----- Original Message -----
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To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 13:28
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
> I sent my log to logs@wrtc2002.org, but didn't get any kind of
> confirmation. Should I have?
> Barry--
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> Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
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>From aluscre at neo.rr.com Sun Jul 14 12:16:43 2002
From: aluscre@neo.rr.com (aluscre)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC- OJ Calls/Teams List
Message-ID: <200207141516.g6EFG5r19956@clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com>
I might be missing something but has the list matching the teams with
the teams posted yet?
I saw the scores but assumed OJ calls list would appear immediately
following end of contest..
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K8ZT
Stow, Ohio
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>From n2mg at eham.net Sun Jul 14 12:45:04 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [TRLog] IARU LOG Bounced
References: <4.1.20020714101437.00993980@pop.southwind.net>
Message-ID: <002201c22b66$97590f50$24749541@delllaptopmfg>
I don't think there's anything for the league to fix. They (always?) list
the results (and issue awards?) based on ARRL section. I think the line
ARRL-SECTION: <YOURSECTIONHERE>
needs to be entered into the Cabrillo file. Even if the contest makes no
use of it (as in the ARRL 10M), the ARRL uses the section for the results.
73 Mike N2MG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lappin - W?UY" <lappint@southwind.net>
To: <trlog@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 8:18 AM
Subject: [TRLog] IARU LOG Bounced
> ARRL ROBOT bounced my Cabrillo log. The message said "no valid ARRL
> section specified". I assume they'll fix that. Any one else experience
> the problem? Also got the too many multipliers enables during POST. I
too
> skipped the process.
>
>
>
> 73
> Tom
> W?UY
>
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>From ve5sf at sk.sympatico.ca Sun Jul 14 11:00:10 2002
From: ve5sf@sk.sympatico.ca (Sam Ferris)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC early logs .... OOOPS
Message-ID: <003901c22b4f$88a0b740$f7dea58e@samugmtpxl8tq0>
Hope somebody is watching this list over there in OH land. Sent in my early
log but found that the old CT 9.64 version only put the CW contacts in the
cabrillo log for some reason. Have sent a revised log already using a later
version (9.70), but wonder if they were prepared for botched logs and revisions
....
Sam
VE5SF
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>From ka0vxk at arrl.net Sun Jul 14 12:05:46 2002
From: ka0vxk@arrl.net (Bill Duffy)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Query
Message-ID: <000b01c22b50$50e295c0$1e01a8c0@omhaw1.ne.home.com>
Greetings All:
This was my first IARU contest. Very enjoyable.
I have a scoring question.
When I QSO'd with different HQ stations, I entered 59xxx(appropriate rpt) in
my log. Sometimes the section also came up automatically. Is it permissable
to go back and put the section #'s in that did not show up because of the
59xxx report? Or do I interpret the rules correctly in that HQ stations only
count as one point?
I realize this is a VERY BASIC question and will appreciate any answers.
Tnx es 73
Bill KA0VXK
ps : If you're cranky from being up 24 plus hours, don't answer for a couple
of days. hi hi CUL
>From n2mg at eham.net Sun Jul 14 13:05:25 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC- OJ Calls/Teams List
References: <200207141516.g6EFG5r19956@clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com>
Message-ID: <004d01c22b69$69f77260$24749541@delllaptopmfg>
I'd hope they'd wait until after the early-bird logs are submitted (and
scores processed) to - prevent mischief!
Mike N2MG
----- Original Message -----
From: "aluscre" <aluscre@neo.rr.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 8:16 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC- OJ Calls/Teams List
> I might be missing something but has the list matching the teams with
> the teams posted yet?
> I saw the scores but assumed OJ calls list would appear immediately
> following end of contest..
>
> --
> |--------------------------|
> Anthony A. Luscre
> K8ZT
> Stow, Ohio
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>From timo.klimoff at kolumbus.fi Sun Jul 14 22:57:16 2002
From: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi (timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
Message-ID: <20020714185716.MTVO20539.fep06-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.109]>
There will be no confirmation.
Too big job to do manually in the middle of log checking process.
Thanks for those 900+ "early bird" logs !
73 Timo OH1NOA
>
> L?hett?j?: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
> P?iv?ys: 2002/07/14 su PM 05:47:17 GMT+03:00
> Vastaanottaja: "CQ-CONTEST" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Aihe: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
>
> Quacks's
> I don't think they are send confirmations, I sent my logs with about 5 hrs.
> to go. Maybe I'll get a REAL early bird award. It was my Bed time.
> I didn't get a confirm from them!!!!
> Rex
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 13:28
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC log confirmation?
>
>
> > I sent my log to logs@wrtc2002.org, but didn't get any kind of
> > confirmation. Should I have?
> > Barry--
> > Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
> > Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
> >
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sun Jul 14 20:49:15 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020714184915.011daf38@pop.vnet.net>
Hold on pardners! The WRTC website is now showing N5TJ/K1TO #1,
DL2CC/DL6FBL #2, and N6TJ/N6AA # 15 at 1.411 Meg (down from 1.747 Meg
originally)! There may have been some problem with the realtime N6TJ/N6AA
log which which was corrected when the teams made their final submission
after briefly reviewing their logs. If true, #1 and #2 positions are only
0.2% apart (6140 points) and a very close finish will come down to
log-checking. DL2CC/DL6FBL's score was also adjusted down exactly 1000
points which dropped them below N5TJ/K1TO (they were ahead in the initial
results). If this is all correct, we won't know who really won until the
awards ceremony tomorrow!
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n2mg at eham.net Sun Jul 14 17:00:41 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC scores
Message-ID: <001301c22b8a$481608c0$398c9541@delllaptopmfg>
I don't think these are final, but there has been some major shuffling of
the results on:
http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/tilanne.pl?hpng=WRTC
1. N5TJ/K1TO (were 3rd)
2. DL2CC/DL6FBL (were 2nd)
3. RA3AUU/RV1AW (were 4th)
with the N6TJ/N6AA team (previously in first place) being dropped to 15th
place. Quite the change from the initial results (which I screen-captured
for posterity)
-Mike N2MG
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sun Jul 14 21:05:20 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020714190520.011fe79c@pop.vnet.net>
The detailed breakdown for N6TJ/N6AA shows the following
sequence, only the last of which is posted, even though it is an
earlier time. May be some problem with the posting process since
the progression from earlier would indicate the 1.7M score is in
the right ballpark (remember OH time is UTC + 3):
OH time Score
13:00:26 1570162
14:01:10 1658232
15:26:21 1747340
15:20:00 1411344
At this point, nobody knows what this means but the OH guys!
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n4zr at contesting.com Sun Jul 14 17:28:12 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020714190520.011fe79c@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020714162452.051f87c0@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 08:05 PM 7/14/02 +0100, Bill Tippett wrote:
> The detailed breakdown for N6TJ/N6AA shows the following
>sequence, only the last of which is posted, even though it is an
>earlier time. May be some problem with the posting process since
>the progression from earlier would indicate the 1.7M score is in
>the right ballpark (remember OH time is UTC + 3):
>
>OH time Score
>13:00:26 1570162
>14:01:10 1658232
>15:26:21 1747340
>15:20:00 1411344
>
> At this point, nobody knows what this means but the OH guys!
With an hour to go, some back-markers suddenly vaulted into first place,
temporarily. Clearly there were some glitches, but the OH guys deserve our
applause for their ground-breaking efforts regardless.
Guess I can dig out my Grey Power tee-shirt, but should stop short of
putting it on until tomorrow (maybe).
73, Pete N4ZR
(61 and proud of it, now...)
>From W1RM at attbi.com Sun Jul 14 17:44:55 2002
From: W1RM@attbi.com (Peter Chamalian)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [YCCC] WRTC scores
In-Reply-To: <001301c22b8a$481608c0$398c9541@delllaptopmfg>
Message-ID: <000201c22b77$4fa65a80$6401a8c0@attbi.com>
Yogi was right! It ain't over 'til it's over.
Pete, W1RM
-----Original Message-----
From: yccc-admin@yccc.org [mailto:yccc-admin@yccc.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Gilmer
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 7:01 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com; yccc@yccc.org
Subject: [YCCC] WRTC scores
I don't think these are final, but there has been some major shuffling
of
the results on:
http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/tilanne.pl?hpng=WRTC
1. N5TJ/K1TO (were 3rd)
2. DL2CC/DL6FBL (were 2nd)
3. RA3AUU/RV1AW (were 4th)
with the N6TJ/N6AA team (previously in first place) being dropped to
15th
place. Quite the change from the initial results (which I
screen-captured
for posterity)
-Mike N2MG
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>From TOMK5RC at aol.com Sun Jul 14 18:26:12 2002
From: TOMK5RC@aol.com (TOMK5RC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
Message-ID: <105.189decb6.2a634674@aol.com>
I just notice the same thing. All of the scores have changed from the earlier
posting. Must be claimed versus checked.
Tom Taormina, K5RC
aka NV7A
Virginia City NV
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sun Jul 14 22:28:17 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] On the Bus with WRTC - #4 - 14 July 2002
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020714202817.011e0bcc@pop.vnet.net>
It's all over now! The IARU HF Championship is over as of a couple hours
ago and the team and I are packing our things and loading them into
OH2BAH's car for the short ride back to Helsinki and the gathering gang
at the Radisson hotel. And what a contest it was.
As we pulled into OH2BAH's QTH, we were thrilled to see several large
towers and most amazing of all, a homemade 10-meter diameter dish for
EME work. John has a couple of acres at his summer home on a lake about
40 miles from Helsinki. He shares the antennas with his brother, OH2PO,
the builder of the dish. One of the truly unique experiences of this
WRTC were the pre- and post-contest saunas (pronouced "SOW-nah").
I'm still feeling the warm glow that results from dashing out of the
dark, dry heat of the wooden benches and diving off the dock into the
cool, clear water. I had to demonstrate the good, old American
Cannonball and Can Opener, of course. There's nothing like it.
Returning to the contest, though, if you were following the Real-Time
Scoreboard, I'm sure you got caught up in the horse race that developed
on Sunday. At the close of business, N6TJ and N6AA had managed to
overtake last year's champs (and odds-on favorites) N5TJ and K1TO for
the gold medal. Jim and Dick also fended off a very close challenge from
DL6FBL and DL2CC, who claimed the silver--also ahead of Jeff and Todd,
who will be delighted to take the bronze. Saturday night had N5TJ/K1TO
in the lead by a substantial margin--I'm guessing due to their uncanny
ability to mix mult-chasing with running. I was expecting a three-peat,
but Team Old Age and Treachery managed to close the gap and more.
I'm sure that Jim N6TJ will attribute it to "Guts", and he may be right.
Conditions were really good. Our host, John OH2BAH, said that conditions
were excellent for midsummer, with a minimum of static and absorption on
the low bands. Ten was spotty which was hardly a surprise with the
solar flux at 136. But with the A and K indices low at 4 and 2,
respectively, we were prepared for that. There were no fades and the
stations appeared from different parts of the world pretty much on cue.
I hope you got a chance to put a bunch of the OJ stations in your
log--maybe enough for a prize or certificate. Listening as I did to the
entire contest--I think I dozed for a total of about 45 minutes over the
entire 24-hour run--this was an unusual contest.
Before the starting bell, we all had visions of what might become an "EU
Sweepstakes". Not so. Because the weather cooperated, as well, there
were no stations off the air at any time due to lightning. I guess with
the sky staying light all the time, maybe you could use the excuse of
the sun being in your eyes, but that's about all you have to try. 80
meters was regional (what a surprise) but all the other bands were open
for DX with plenty of stations. My team of UA2FZ and RW4WR placed close
to the middle of the pack even with 2400+ QSOs.
They pushed the last-10-QSO rate meter into the high 200's many times,
even on CW. I think the difference between the competitors is a very
small one and is mainly of the fine points of squeezing every drop out
of a pileup or flurry of callers. With low antennas (12-meters about
ground) and equal locations, no one team had dominant propagation, so
they had to maximize each chance to score. So it was over in seemingly
an instant. I'll tell you that it was a tough chore to be so close--at
the end of a headphone cable--and yet so far, not being able to
participate in the rough and tumble of the contest. Referees just have
to grit their teeth and watch and listen. However, it does strengthen
one's resolve to get better and be worthy of one of the next WRTC
chairs. Speaking of which, will there be another WRTC? Almost
certainly, but unlike the past two events, there is no announcement of a
host organization yet. I'm sure that the enthusiasm generated by
WRTC2002 will carry over to an organization stepping up and taking on
the job.
Then we will all be figuring out how to be a captain...or be best
friends with someone who is. And maybe just packing our bags and saving
our frequent-flyer miles to participate in one of the best experiences
in ham radio, the World Radiosport Team Championship.
Nakemiin (Goodbye) from Finland!
73, Ward N0AX/OH
>From n2mg at eham.net Sun Jul 14 21:12:04 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
References: <1.5.4.32.20020714190520.011fe79c@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <002501c22bad$67243d40$62749541@delllaptopmfg>
Sounds more like a problem with the scoring process, like perhaps the
software that team was using was miscounting (over scoring) something all
along, then at the end they realized it and recalculated and reposted
(though I cannot explain the time stamps)
Not that we would speculate - not on *this* reflector... ;-)
-Mike N2MG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tippett" <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
To: <pvrc@mailman.qth.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 12:05 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [PVRC] WRTC (early) results - Not so fast!!!!
> The detailed breakdown for N6TJ/N6AA shows the following
> sequence, only the last of which is posted, even though it is an
> earlier time. May be some problem with the posting process since
> the progression from earlier would indicate the 1.7M score is in
> the right ballpark (remember OH time is UTC + 3):
>
> OH time Score
> 13:00:26 1570162
> 14:01:10 1658232
> 15:26:21 1747340
> 15:20:00 1411344
>
> At this point, nobody knows what this means but the OH guys!
>
> 73, Bill W4ZV
>From N5RP at pdq.net Mon Jul 15 11:55:10 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Telrex Rotator
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715105256.00b83a78@pop.pdq.net>
Contesters subscribed to this list given priority of purchase.
This is the one of fables !
Forget modified prop pitches.
Forget the new stuff that makes interesting claims.
This is the rotor that has turned countless log periodic antennas around
the world at military bases and embassy locations.
This unit may very well be the type of rotator that will never be built
again due to manufacturing expenses and extremely over-sized component
design parameters.
Manufactured by Telrex on 09/30/74
Never installed.
Every single component is still stored in their original box and wrapping
paper.
Rotor assembly is still mounted to the original shipping pallet from the
New Jersey factory.
Oil has never been added to gear box, and preservatives are still on the
main components.
Compass Rose indicator is brand new - Absolutely no scratches and even
smells new.
Selsyns have not been powered since initial factory assembly testings.
Included is 100' of cable for the initial run from shack to tower location.
Original manual in pristine condition.
All components are absolutely brand new with no compromise of condition.
This unit is like viewing a time capsule of technology and workmanship that
has not been replicated since.
Pictures available upon request, but I must open boxes to take same.
.............. $1,500.00
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From contesting at eircom.net Mon Jul 15 19:05:26 2002
From: contesting@eircom.net (Tim Makins, EI8IC)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A New Concept in Ham Maps
Message-ID: <001401c22c22$4185e780$e6a9a5c2@host>
People might be interested to see a new type of Ham Map, now available for
free on my website. It will be of use to all amateurs, whether HF or VHF
based.
The problem with ordinary web-based maps is that there is either too little
or too much information on the screen. I have just completed a map of
Europe, the first in a series of Overlay Maps, where YOU get to choose the
amount of information you have on display.
The following overlays are available:
Country Outlines, CQ Zones, ITU Zones, Time Zones, Grid Locators, Country
Names, Capital Cities, Prefixes, Flags.
You can chose which overlays are on display, the order they are displayed
in, and which one is on the top.
The map can be saved in the normal manner (File>Save As) for viewing
off-line, and it can be printed out with what ever overlays are active.
As the page is graphics-intensive (220kB) it takes approximately 30 seconds
to load with a 56kB modem, or 1 minute with a 28.2Kb modem. A pre-loader
page is provided as an entry point. The address is
http://www.qsl.net/ei8ic/grids/euro/preload.html
Or it can be accessed through the normal menu on my website.
IMPORTANT: THE MAP REQUIRES JAVASCRIPT TO BE ENABLED ON YOUR BROWSER.
IF YOU HAVE JAVASCRIPT TURNED OFF, IT WON'T WORK.
I welcome any comments or suggestions for other maps.
73s Tim EI8Ic
www.qsl.net/ei8ic/
HF and Budget Contesting Information Site.
More maps in this series will be added as time and resources allow. It takes
me about a week to make the map and its overlays. If you would like to
sponsor a map in this series, order a similar map of a particular area, or
need any other graphics processing or web-design ($80/page), please contact
me.
>From n2nu at arrl.net Mon Jul 15 15:01:35 2002
From: n2nu@arrl.net (John T. Fischer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
Message-ID: <002401c22c29$aa508480$2cc8060a@7911BXL20056>
I worked three maritime mobile stations in the IARU test and logged them as
xxnxxx/MM (e.g. SP2AVE/MM). In all cases, these were logged as 0 point
contacts in my version of WriteLog. I cannot find any reference at all to MM
stations in the rules, and I would think that these should be logged as 5
pointers since they were outside the continent and zone... In one case the
station gave me a new zone multiplier (which the program counts), even though
it was still logged as 0 points!
Clarification on the rules, anyone?
Thanks, John
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>From dhenderson at arrl.org Mon Jul 15 15:03:15 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RTTY Roundup Results Now Available Online
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC044F90EB@kahless.arrlhq.org>
The results for the 2002 ARRL RTTY Roundup are now available online to ARRL
members at:
www.arrl.org/contests/results
ARRL members must be logged on with the membership ID and password.
My hearty congratulations to Jay Townsend, WS7I, on an exceptionally well
done Web article. Also our thanks to Eddie Schneider, W6/G0AZT on a great
job of processing the logs and handling the log checking.
The results will also appear in the September QST. For non-ARRL members,
public online results are opened approximately 30 days after the results
appear in QST.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 15 12:08:02 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 15Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207151808.g6FI82i11147@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 15Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in the summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S LP
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW LP
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
VE9DX 739 0 266 300,048
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 37,609 FCG
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed LP
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
WN6K 344 338 91 15 211,575 SCCC
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed QRP
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB LP
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
Operators:
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 15 12:09:17 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 15Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207151809.g6FI9H111157@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 15Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in thsi summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA M/S HP
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW LP
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed HP
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB HP
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB LP
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
Operators:
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Mon Jul 15 15:12:49 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 Honor Roll
Message-ID: <20020715141249.K4998@cs.utexas.edu>
The W1AW/5 team appreciates the efforts of all Amateur Radio operators
that got on for the 2002 IARU HF World Championship and helped make it a
weekend to remember. With over 10,000 QSOs in the log, we would like to
especially recognize those who worked W1AW/5 on all 12 band-modes, on the
6 CW bands, or the 6 phone bands. Check out the W1AW/5 Honor Roll at the
Central Texas DX & Contest Club web site:
http://www.ctdxcc.org/
--
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Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Mon Jul 15 21:06:37 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Telrex Rotator
References: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715105256.00b83a78@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <3D332B4D.BD417655@directvinternet.com>
If someone is thinking of buying Bob's prop pitch, be warned there is
a LOCKING NUT on the rotator housing. Remove it before applying power.
Actually, in the one I had, I didn't know this. No matter, the rotor
just got up a little steam, and sheared it off like it wasn't there.
Not the best way.
):>
Ed
>From N5RP at pdq.net Mon Jul 15 16:42:55 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Telrex Rotator
In-Reply-To: <3D332B4D.BD417655@directvinternet.com>
References: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715105256.00b83a78@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715154010.00b99118@pop.pdq.net>
At 20:06 7/15/2002 +0000, K4SB wrote:
>If someone is thinking of buying Bob's prop pitch, be warned there is
>a LOCKING NUT on the rotator housing. Remove it before applying power.
====================>
The locking nut would still be on the unit.
>Actually, in the one I had, I didn't know this. No matter, the rotor
>just got up a little steam, and sheared it off like it wasn't there.
====================>
Guess that says it all - It will turn about anything .
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From Timothy.Urban at wc.ey.com Mon Jul 15 18:05:03 2002
From: Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com (Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
Message-ID: <OF2DE0EB34.2B77BCEA-ON85256BF7.00730B52@ey.com>
LIsters, etiquette question follows:
I worked another station on SSB during the IARU contest, the other op got
my callsign correct, but apparently mis-heard my ITU zone.
I said "five nine - zero eight", but the other op responded by saying "QSL
on your zone seven, QRZ de.....". I then replied "negative, zone 8" but
the other op had already sent "qrz" and begun working another station.
Propagation wasn't great and the other op didn't seem to hear my following
calls to fix the busted zone.
How concerned should I be? Should I try to re-contact the other op later
with a dupe hf contact during the contest to alert him to the busted zone?
I'm trying to be very conscientious but many of the other contesters
don't seem as obsessed with accuracy..........
73
Tim
N5IIT
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>From N5RP at pdq.net Mon Jul 15 18:09:12 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
In-Reply-To: <OF2DE0EB34.2B77BCEA-ON85256BF7.00730B52@ey.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715170515.00b875d8@pop.pdq.net>
At 17:05 7/15/2002 -0400, Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com wrote:
><snip>
>How concerned should I be? Should I try to re-contact the other op later
>with a dupe hf contact during the contest to alert him to the busted zone?
> I'm trying to be very conscientious but many of the other contesters
>don't seem as obsessed with accuracy........
==========================>
If you can work him again without too much effort, and without costing
yourself whatever contest asset(s) you consider important, do so.
I would scrub the busted 1st QSO from my log.
No matter what, QSO #1 was not completed, based upon what you were given as
an acknowledgement.
Welcome to contesting.
Set a standard for yourself that is proper, and enjoy it properly.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From aa4ga at contesting.com Mon Jul 15 19:24:47 2002
From: aa4ga@contesting.com (Lee Hiers)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
Message-ID: <3D33136F.4886.22C6C8B@localhost>
Every time I work this contest I work folks that don't know their
zone.
Let's say a W1 calls and tells me he's in zone 5.
I ask "what's your QTH?"
"Maine"
"OK, that's ITU zone 8"
"No, I'm in zone 5"
Or some similar discourse.
So, how do you log it / count points?
73 de Lee
--
Lee Hiers, AA4GA
Cornelia, Georgia
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Mon Jul 15 19:35:10 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
References: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715170515.00b875d8@pop.pdq.net>
Message-ID: <3D334E1E.2C303EA6@gte.net>
"Bob, N5RP" wrote:
> If you can work him again without too much effort, and without
> costing yourself whatever contest asset(s) you consider important,
> do so.
More than likely, you'll get "QSO B4 QRZ" and be SOL for a second QSO
(which again, is a reason to work dupes ... just in case one of the two
made an error).
> I would scrub the busted 1st QSO from my log. No matter what,
> QSO #1 was not completed, based upon what you were given as an
> acknowledgement.
On the other hand, if you count the QSO ... you'll get credit for it ...
he'll lose and get penalized for it as a busted QSO!
The guy sort of deserves that because:
a) not getting the info correct the first time and
b) probably not going to work you a second time for a "good" QSO
As Bob said "Set a standard for yourself that is proper, and enjoy it
properly". Whatever way you go, at least be consistent.
Ron
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Mon Jul 15 19:40:36 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
Message-ID: <3D334F64.4C84294C@gte.net>
After all the pre-WRTC hype ...
it's now after 1:30 AM in OH land ... 7 1/2 hours after the Awards
Dinner.
Who won?
What teams were behind the OJ calls?
Waiting to find out ...
Ron, WD4AHZ
>From Jimk8mr at aol.com Mon Jul 15 20:01:23 2002
From: Jimk8mr@aol.com (Jimk8mr@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
Message-ID: <197.9bf7121.2a64ae43@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/15/2002 6:55:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wd4ahz@gte.net
writes:
> it's now after 1:30 AM in OH land ... 7 1/2 hours after the Awards Dinner.
>
> Who won?
>
Of all the people in the world, I thought you guys in Florida would
understand having to wait... and wait... and wait... for the results from a
close contest. :-)
Only 36 and 2/3 days to go.
Jim K8MR
(Also waiting to hear)
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>From llindblom at juno.com Tue Jul 16 00:10:21 2002
From: llindblom@juno.com (Larry L Lindblom)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NAQP RTTY
Message-ID: <20020715.231021.-397105.3.LLindblom@juno.com>
If your thinking about playing in NAQP RTTY why not double you pleasure
double your fun and sign on for a team. By playing on a team you compete
in both the single op and team competition. For me playing on a team
adds a new lever of enjoyment to this fun event.
Those signed on so far to play on a team with TCG include:
K4GKM
K4RO
W4BCG
N1NB
KE4OAR
N2WK
W5CTV
If your expressed interest and your call is missing from the list, please
resend your message.
I will put together as many teams as there are interested players.
E-mail me direct if you want to sign of to a team
You will notice my own call is lacking from the list. This is because
the frequency tuning in my main rig died and the backup rig suddenly
seems to have almost zero power output. You might say in was a lousy
weekend here in the IARU test. I have serious doubt about getting one of
these rigs going by this Saturday. If I do count me in, if I don't I'll
cheer all the TCG team players on from the sidelines.
73 W0ETC
>From kd4d at comcast.net Mon Jul 15 21:47:13 2002
From: kd4d@comcast.net (Mark Bailey)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
References: <5.1.1.2.2.20020715170515.00b875d8@pop.pdq.net>
<3D334E1E.2C303EA6@gte.net>
Message-ID: <015801c22c62$53a9f6a0$6501a8c0@Mark1>
Hello, all:
"QSO B4 QRZ" mystifies me. Or, maybe, "B4 PJ2M"
or "DUPE PJ2M" or whatever, which seems more efficient.
Why would the run station EVER send this?
Is the run station going to send QSO B4 and then WAIT for
an answer and start to negotiate? This appears to make sense
only in the rare contest where both stations are penalized for
an error. And, it's not QSO B4 QRZ?, its QSO B4 (wait for
answer).
There are only three cases :-) :
Case 1: The S&P station busted the call the first time.
If he's serious, he'll probably argue about it, especially if you
are a multiplier. It will take longer to look up and send a QSO
time or whatever than to just complete another QSO. You
don't get penalized for a duplicate QSO in your log, and he'll
get credit at least for the second QSO. (Of course, both of
you log ALL QSO's). He gets penalized for the first bad QSO
but you don't.
Case 2: You busted his call the first time.
Well, you lose credit for the initial QSO whatever happens, unless
you spend a lot of time negotiating with the other station and
figuring out what happened. However, working him again then
gives YOU a good QSO. You get the penalty for the bad
initial QSO anyway.
Case 3: Other!
It's another mistake. Who knows? :-) Computer or operator
confusion? Busted packet spot? Maybe the other station
realizes the error and doesn't send anything else. Still, completing
and logging the QSO benefits the run station and is just about as
fast as listening to the other station sending "SRI" or whatever.
They always seem to send "SRI", right on top of a weak
multiplier calling you. :-)
BTW, Operator confusion can affect the running station too.
So, why would anyone EVER send QSO B4 QRZ?
Maybe in Sweepstakes, with the long exchange?
But, then negotiation starts to seem appealing...so you
send "QSO B4" and wait for the response.
Still slower than just completing the QSO! And, it isn't
sending "QSO B4 QRZ?."
Awaiting enlightenment...
73,
Mark, KD4D
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Wetjen" <wd4ahz@gte.net>
To: "Bob, N5RP" <N5RP@pdq.net>
Cc: <Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU test newbie question
> "Bob, N5RP" wrote:
>
> > If you can work him again without too much effort, and without
> > costing yourself whatever contest asset(s) you consider important,
> > do so.
>
> More than likely, you'll get "QSO B4 QRZ" and be SOL for a second QSO
> (which again, is a reason to work dupes ... just in case one of the two
> made an error).
>
> > I would scrub the busted 1st QSO from my log. No matter what,
> > QSO #1 was not completed, based upon what you were given as an
> > acknowledgement.
>
> On the other hand, if you count the QSO ... you'll get credit for it ...
> he'll lose and get penalized for it as a busted QSO!
>
> The guy sort of deserves that because:
>
> a) not getting the info correct the first time and
> b) probably not going to work you a second time for a "good" QSO
>
> As Bob said "Set a standard for yourself that is proper, and enjoy it
> properly". Whatever way you go, at least be consistent.
>
> Ron
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>From kr1g at hotmail.com Tue Jul 16 03:21:19 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
Message-ID: <F75gJyjX1VThKL3XUK900013a00@hotmail.com>
For obvious screwups, like the W1in zone 5 or the DL in zone 15 I log the
"correct" zone. For the RK4 in zone 30, the UN in zone 31 etc, I log what
they send me - hey, they might be right!
for the record, I only "corrected" one zone. Theoretically, I should have
engaged the OM/YL in a lively CW discourse explaining that the exchange was
IARU zone not CQ zone, but my CW (other than contestese) is not so hot and
they probably wouldn't have understood me anyways :)
73
Ted KT1V
PS: Anyone know how closely the logs get checked? Not that it should effect
proper behavior! but just curious. I detailed UBN would be great
>From: "Lee Hiers" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
>To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
>
>Every time I work this contest I work folks that don't know their
>zone.
>
>Let's say a W1 calls and tells me he's in zone 5.
>
>I ask "what's your QTH?"
>
>"Maine"
>
>"OK, that's ITU zone 8"
>
>"No, I'm in zone 5"
>
>Or some similar discourse.
>
>So, how do you log it / count points?
>
>73 de Lee
>
>
>--
>Lee Hiers, AA4GA
>Cornelia, Georgia
>
>
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Tue Jul 16 00:24:32 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC mail box full
Message-ID: <00ad01c22c78$4e4a8740$2d1045cf@default>
A problem has been reported by a local SECC member. He got this
message......
Copy=============
Anyone else but me have their WRTC log submission
rejected due to lack of room in the recipient's
mailbox?
Dick K2UFT
End================
Someone needs to get a message to them that there are probably logs rejected
all over the place. Dick worked 47 OJ stations!
73 Dave K4JRB
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Mon Jul 15 23:39:15 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
In-Reply-To: <197.9bf7121.2a64ae43@aol.com>
Message-ID: <MCBBJAHBAIHDJKDNKBBIEEHBCAAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
What AHZ asked for was who was who among the OJ calls...
Is this what you are after, Jim....
http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/pos.pl?hpng=WRTC
73,
dale, kg5u
>
> In a message dated 7/15/2002 6:55:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> wd4ahz@gte.net
> writes:
>
>
> > it's now after 1:30 AM in OH land ... 7 1/2 hours after the
> Awards Dinner.
> >
> > Who won?
> >
>
>
> Of all the people in the world, I thought you guys in Florida would
> understand having to wait... and wait... and wait... for the
> results from a
> close contest. :-)
>
> Only 36 and 2/3 days to go.
>
>
> Jim K8MR
>
> (Also waiting to hear)
>
>
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>From bhorn at hornucopia.com Mon Jul 15 22:21:25 2002
From: bhorn@hornucopia.com (Bruce Horn)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
In-Reply-To: <3D334F64.4C84294C@gte.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020715211916.00b05c18@hornucopia.com>
At 06:40 PM 7/15/2002 -0400, Ron Wetjen wrote:
>Who won?
The official top five and photos of the awards ceremony are available on
the NCJ web site:
http://www.ncjweb.com/
I assume complete results will soon be available on the official WRTC 2002
web site.
73 de Bruce, WA7BNM (bhorn@hornucopia.com)
>From k6km at cncnet.com Mon Jul 15 22:52:45 2002
From: k6km@cncnet.com (Bill)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
References: <20020712213837.HVSX20539.fep06-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.110]>
Message-ID: <3D33A69D.9470A48E@cncnet.com>
Hei OH-land!
What is happening there?
Please tell us supporters of WRTC02 WHO WON the
competition!
Obviously there were some scoring problems, most
notably with N6TJ and N6AA. PLEASE tell us why their
score decreased as time passed; that should not be possible.
PLEASE tell us why the N5KO/9V1YC score went
flat in the last few hours.
PLEASE tell us which teams were associated with which
OJ callsigns!
PLEASE tell us what's going on. To me, the delay in
reporting results means that POLITICS is coming in
to play and POLITICS may be more meaningful than
PERFORMANCE in determing the final results.
PLEASE prove me wrong.
As any one might expect, Team Finland did a wonderful
job preparing for and hosting WRTC 2002. Thank you
for that. But WHY have you kept the world in ignorance
as to the results?
PLEASE TELL US WOT's UP!
Bill K6KM
also OH2/K6KM and OH0/K6KM
>From 107770.3462 at compuserve.com Tue Jul 16 02:17:05 2002
From: 107770.3462@compuserve.com (James P. Cassidy)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QSO B4
Message-ID: <200207160117_MC3-1-693-9387@compuserve.com>
I had a really good experience with one station in the IARU regarding QSO
B4. He sent SRI QSO B4, I said no and he went ahead and worked me again.
Worked OK for both and didn't take much longer than just working again
without the message. I am sure I hadn't QSOed B4 as the computer logging
dupe check handles that and also I had not made that many Qs that I
wouldn't have remembered.
73 Jim KI7Y
>From ken.knopp at verizon.net Tue Jul 16 00:51:51 2002
From: ken.knopp@verizon.net (Ken K7ZUM)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W7GG, THREE RIVERS FIRE, I.A.R.U. 2002..... LONG
Message-ID: <004b01c22c95$43bffcc0$6401a8c0@dslverizon.net>
Hi All, thought I'd write about an experience I had over the weekend doing
the I.A.R.U. contest from W7GG'S central Oregon
contest location, as it will be one that will most defineteley stand out as one
that I will remember, and will be impossiable for us to forget !!
It started off friday morning still not knowing if W7GG was
going to do the test, as he had some sort of bug and was not feeling real well,
but being the intense competitor that he is, he went to the doc, got a pocket
full of medicine and gave me a call at my work QTH about 9:00 o'clock friday
morning saying he was headed over to the contest station and was going to give
it a try, and it should be no problem as he wanted to do c.w. (no talking, he
could save his voice) and my youngest son and I could do phone part, sounded
good to me ! but also to stick somewhat close to the 2 mtr radio as there was
a small lighting started forest fire north of his location, and he'd give me a
call and let me know the status of the fire after he got there.
Somewheres around 2 o'clock friday afternoon I got the call on 2
mtrs from Bob, fire did not look all of that bad, was about 5 miles from his
place, with a light wind blowing to the north, meaning away from his place, it
was also several ridges over, on the other side of Lake Billy Chinook, and on
the Indian reservation, we could see no problem, as have been over there with
them closer than that. So the contest was on, I'd get off of work, pick up my
youngest son, pack the truck and make the 2-1/2 hr 129 mile drive from
Gresham Ore to three rivers. It should be a good time, and we would get a
chance to check out all of the antenna
work that we had done a few months ago. I also got ahold of my dx-ped partner,
Craig, AH8DX/W7, and let him know the contest was on, and that we would be
heading over to Bob's place, and he was more than welcome to come over and use
my station for the test.
To those of you who have worked W7GG,AI7B or WW7OR over the
years and have wondered about his big signal, let me give a little run down on
his contest QTH, Three Rivers is a gated community, way out in the "pucker
brush" (literally) in the high desert of central Oregon, about 25 miles west of
a small town called Culver, basically a vacation resort, with a few
homes,mobile homes, trailer houses,etc, most people come over for the weekend,
with a few living there all year roung, there is no running water, no
commercial power, (nearest commercial power is about 20 miles away) no flushing
toilets, except the ones you make for yourself ! etc. etc. water is bought and
stored on site, electric power at W7GG's place is either solar,wind
mills,diesel or propane powered generators, towers and antenna's are many, 190
ft. rotating tower with 2 stacked full sized 3 element 40 mtr beams, stacked
kt34xa's, 80 and 160 mtr wire 4 squares, 165 ft tower with stacked mono-band
yagis for 20,15 and 10 mtrs, 125 ft tower with several other yagis, 100 ft.
tower with another tribander, windmills, solar paners, etc. on it, that covers
most of the antennas, He has this all situated on about 5 acres, and it is a
very nice place to retire to on a weekend and play radio, so when you hear
W7GG on the air handing out Q's, it is at great expense to Bob.
So, it was up over Mt Hood, and into central Oregon for what I
hoped would be an uneventful drive, but my youngest son was driving, and
anything could happen!!! ( it didn't, he did a good job on the way over) By
the time we came up out of Warm Springs and onto the flats into Madras, the sun
was going down over the mountains, and we got a good look at the small forest
fire
off in the distance, smoke was drifting to the north, which was good, as we
were going to be south of it. So It was on into Madras, follow the signs to
Lake Billy Chinook, and keep my eyes on the fire.
By the time we got to the top of the canyon road that drops you
down into Lake Billy Chinook it was dark, and that little bitty forest fire
was looking a little on the menancing side, we were still about 20 miles away,
so down into the canyon we went, over two very, very narrow suspension bridges
and climbed up out of the canyon, once on top, we got our first real look at
that little bitty forest fire, it was no longer just menancing looking, it was
damn scary looking, and we were headed right for it !
I called bob on 2 mtrs and tried to describe what I was seeing, he sounded a
little concerned, and said that it was still 4 to 5 miles north west of him,
with a very mild breeze blowing to the north away from him, so it should still
be no problem, I said we'd be there soon, and signed off, It was about then
that I noticed that my normally lead footed 15 yr old son was looking out the
windshield at the fire in front of us,mouth open, and eyes opened even wider !
and going very slow ! ! I knew he was just as stunned as I was, I just looked
at him and said, I dont think were going to be doing much contesting this
weekend, were probally going to Bob's place and packing the truck's up and
getting the heck out of there. I don't think in the fifteen years that I have
been lucky enough to have Jordan as my son, that I have ever seen him agree
more quickly to anything I have ever said !
By the time we got to the main gate to pick up a pass to go
onto Three Rivers property, the normally empty parking lot was full of fire
trucks, heavy earth moving equipment, fire fighters, etc., and the fire was a
site to behold, the entire night sky to the northwest of where I was standing
had the most sureal, eerie orange "glow" that I have ever seen
I went in to get a pass, came back out, stood in awe, and looked at the fire
in the sky, made a few choice four letter "observations", and was already
planning in my mind what I could pack in my little truck and how I could get it
in, just in case they gave the word to evacuate.
Made the mile or so drive from the main gate to Bobs place and
pulled into his property, Meet Bob outside, parked the truck and we sat on the
outside deck and made plans of what we should do if we had to leave in a hurry,
all the while looking to the northwest at the "orange glow" coming over the top
of the tree's.
By now, there was no breeze, some cloud cover, and we could smell no "smoke"
that was about 10:00 o'clock in the evening,
by 11:00 we decided to try and get some sleep, only problem was, it was too hot
to sleep in the house, and it was still 94 degrees outside !!!! So for Jordan
and me, It was make a bed out on the deck and try and sleep in just shorts !
by midnight I knew it was going to be a long hot,semi sleepless night ! and
what was worse, was that every little breeze that came along, I found myself
trying to determine what direction, north, south,east,west, is there smoke on
that breeze, can I hear the tell tale sounds of burning trees, and on and on,
and then there was that eerie "orange" glow from the fire, it was reflecting
off of the cloud cover and everything I could see had an "orange" glow to it,
trees, grass, house, towers,antennas, gravel, etc, literally everything ! was
very un-nerving ! At one point Jordan got up, had a white t-shirt on, walked
by me, and he was even "glowing orange" !!!!
It was somewhere's around 3 o'clock in the morning that I noticed that the
"glow" was no longer around, got up, looked to the northwest, and could no
longer see much of anything, no smoke rising, no orange glow, laid back down
and finally fell asleep with the thoughts that the fire was dying out, and the
firefighters had it under control, I felt much better, and actually got about 3
hours worth of sleep !
bob was up at 4:30, ready to start the test at 5:00, he
started out on 40 c.w. with JA5ING/1 first in the log at 5:06 a.m. local time.
By the time I got up with several cups of coffe in me to try and shake off my
restless night,and take a peek around the side of the house to check on the
fire, ( hurray, looked like it was pretty much gone out ! ) there was 210 Q's
in the log,
We traded seats and I started off of 20 mtr ssb, with N0NI first in the log at
7:57 a.m. local, made a total of 13 q's on 20 ssb and decided that was not the
place to be, last q's on 20 that morning was W1AW/5 at 8:25 a.m. local, bad
rates !
15 mtrs sounded much, much better, with W6XR first in the log,
europe was open and was answering my c.q.'s !
so for the next hour and a half or so, I ran and ran, watching the rate meter
at times aproaching 185 q's, not bad, not bad at all for way out here in
Oregon ! And then I had something happen to me that I have read about many
times over the years, about 9:30 local time ( 14:30 utc) I was calling c.q.
with the voice keyer, I heard something, stopped, and heard the tail end of a
c.q. message, what I heard was, seven germany germany contest ! I had
thought it a little odd for a split secound, and then realized that was my
VOICE ! my first long delayed echo ??
Bob walked into the shack at about 10:00 a.m. local, looked at
the rates I was having on 15 phone, and I could see by the look in his eye's (
plus the drool coming out of the side of his mouth !) that he wanted some of
the action, I took a break and let Bob run some c.w. went into the kitchen,
grabbed a cup of coffee, walked out the back door to check on the fire, and
everything looked just fine ! no smoke, no clouds, no fire ! looked like we
were gonna have a great time this weekend after all !
by 11:00 a.m. local time, I looked out the south window of the
shack and noticed that it was getting hard to see the big tower about 400
hundred feet away, and the smell of burning wood was starting to come into the
shack ! I took one look at Bob, and he looked at me as I was putting down my
drink, letting Bob know I was going to go and check things out.
Grabbed a set of binocoulrs on the way out of the house, headed
over to the pole barn, grabbed a climbing belt and headed out to the small
tower to the northwest of the property, up the tower I went and hooked on at
about 60-70 ft., well above the tree line and took a peek, by then there was so
much low lying smoke in all directions, it was hard to tell where it was coming
from, but with a little bit of squinting, I could see that it was coming from
the northwest, so far it looked like a smouldering camp fire, and from what I
could see, was still about 4-5 miles away. Down the tower I went, into the
shack and discussed what I had seen with Bob, we had heard nothing from the
main gate about evacuation, so decided to to worry just yet.
By 11:45 a.m. local time we had looked out the window and noticed
there was a slight breeze coming from the south, and had cleared out all of the
smoke ! GREAT ! no clouds, no smoke, a slight breeze from the south, and the
europeans were just booming in on 15 mtrs ! things were looking up ! it was
also getting close to 90 degrees F. ! We traded off and I ran europe for about
another hour or so, By 12:00 or so in the afternoon, the temperature in the
shack was somewhere around 94 degrees, and that was with two box fans going,
one 20 inch box fan was in the west window of the shack, and we both noticed at
about the same time, that the fan was speeding up and slowing down, and it
wasn't due to voltage variations from the diesel generator, Our slight
southern breeze had changed directions and was now coming from the worst
possiable direction, out of the northwest, and it was no longer a "slight
breeze".
We traded off at 12:15 p.m. local, europe still booming in on
15 mtr c.w., I went to the kitchen to grab something cold to drink and find
something to snack on and walked out the back door to check on the fire, by now
I could see some smoke rising above the trees, but not coming at us, was
starting to worry a little bit, as the wind was really starting to pick up, and
it was really gettin hot ! it had to be somewheres over a hundred outside, with
no humidity.
Went back into the shack at 1:15 p.m. to take over, noticed
that the temp in the shack was getting close to 98 deg. F.
seen bob had changed to 20 c.w., so decided to try 20 phone and put in some
much needed q's on that band, by 1:40 p.m. decided that 20 was not producing
well, and went back to 15 phone for a little S&P, first in was TA3D at 1:49
p.m. local, did a little more S & P'ing, and found my first JA, JA4DPL at
1:52 p.m. local, now I decided it was time to reposition antenna's, turn the
TB-6 to the U.S., turn the rotating tower with the stacked KT-34-XA's to JA
land, and use WX0B's six pack box ( the fun switch) to switch between the fixed
european stack, U.S. antenna and JA antenna's, now it was time to really rock
and roll ! as I had the whole world to work, europe was still booming in, U.S.
was booming in, a few south americans, and the J.A. and deep Russians were
starting to roll !
At 2:00 p.m. local time, Craig, AH8DX\W7 checked in from my
station in Gresham, we exchanged numbers and info, he asked how it was going, I
had stated that we were starting to really worry about the fire to the north of
use, and was not sure how much longer we might be here, by then, the box fan in
the window was really howing, from my operating position, I could not see out
the window very well, but from the way the fan was howling, I was expecting at
any moment flames to be lapping around the corner ! we only had at that time,
614 q's in the log, it had been somewhat difficult to concentrate on the
contest, and was getting harder and harder to concentrate on the contest. the
temperature in the shack was now at 99.9 deg. F., and it was much hotter
outside.
Another 22 minutes went by and I had put another 40 q's in the
log, my son had showed up at my side, stating that he had been up at the front
gate talking to a firefighter who had said that if you had and personal
belongings, you had better start packing them and be prepared to get out. I had
stopped and took a call on two meters from one of the other hams that live on
the property, so far he had not heard anything from the front gate about
evacuating. About that time, bob walked into the shack, we all sat and
discussed what to do next, I thought that maybe the best thing to do for the
time being, was to grab the binoculours and a climbing belt and go back up the
little tower and take another peek at the fire. All agreed that this would give
us some sort of go\no go. So out the door I went, over to the tower, and up I
went. This particular tower I can only climb up on the north face of it, so at
about the 65-70 ft level, I clipped on, grabbed for the binoculours, turned
around, and damned near dropped the binocs !! this time I did not need them,
as what I saw put a chill up my spine, and stood the hair up on the back of my
neck !
What I was looking at, was no longer just a smoldering fire, it
was a raging, wind whipped, out of control wild fire, with huge billowing
clouds of smoke, what was worse, it was no longer 4-5 miles away, it was maybe
2, and heading southeast, pretty much right for use, what was even worse than
that, was a fire had spread south of the main fire, and IT WAS heading for us !
by this time, the winds were whipped up to around 30 or so miles per hour.
I have always thought it rather unusual as to some of the
things I remember in times of stress like this, and it seemed rather odd to me,
that standing up on that tower, watching this raging fire, and thinking about
watching an interview several years ago of the commanding officer of Clark Air
Force base in the Phillippines after the volcano there covered up the air base,
A reporter had asked him what indication he had, as to when to evacuate, his
answer was when he seen a young seargeant running by him, yelling, General, I
hope you gots some Jam in your pocket, as were about to be "toast" ! then he
knew it was time to leave !
and me, like the General, I sure wasn't much intrested in becoming "toast", so
it was unclip myself from the tower, with Bob barreling out the back door of
the house, saying we gots to GO ! and from 65 ft or so up, I don't think it
took me 30 secounds before my feet hit the ground at a dead run for the house,
now it was time to try and decide what to save.
It was now about 2:45 p.m. local, as we headed for the shack
to try and save as much as possiable before the fire hit, we had maybe 2 hrs, 3
tops, I shut the computers off, noticed that we only had 661 q's in the log,
with JA6FMR being the last one at 21:36 UTC. Bob, Jordan and I had a short
conversation with what to start with, was easy, the most expensive equipment
first, I started unplugging all of the 1000 mike papa's, Bob and Jordan started
on all of the smaller radios, power supplies and brick amps, we started
stacking things on the front porch, from there, next was the Titan amps and
power supplies, next from there was the Henry amps, both little Henry, and big
Henry, by then we had quit a pile stacked up on the front porch, the next thing
to do was to back my little pickup up to the deck and start loading, mike
papa's, titans,power supplies,bricks,smaller radios into the back of the truck,
next was to try and get the big amps into the bed, and from there, start
shoving anything else that we could into it. At one point I remember looking up
at the temp gauge, 100.5 deg. F. no wonder the sweat was pouring out of use !
and that damn box fan in the window was still howling !
Don't ask me why, but for some reason or another, there was a
surplus of unused cardboard boxes, and thank god there was, as we used every
one of them shoving wallpaper,hard won contest plaques, family memories, stack
match boxes,six pack boxes, relay boxes, filters, top ten boxes, four square
boxes,monitors,computers, headphones,mics,footswitches,and anything else we
could shove in them, and when we ran out of boxes, we found some plastic boxes
full of linen, out went the linen, and in went the good stuff ! It was truly
amazing, in about an hour and a half, we had that shack pretty much torn down
to tables and chairs, and had pretty much gotten all of the equipment out, What
was even more amazing was when I went out the back door to check on the
progress of the fire, It was no longer "just" to the northwest of us, it was
still spreading towards use, but was also traveling at a very high rate to the
east, more or less parellel to us, and from what I could see, in the hour or so
I had last checked on it, it looked like it had gone maybe 3 miles, with
billowing smoke clouds that had to be reaching 25,000 plus feet, and streaching
from just about as far as I could see to the west, to as far as I could see to
the east, the sight of this made us move a little bit faster, as we still had
plenty to try and load up.
It was now about 4:15, and we had more to try and load, we
started loading motorcycles into Bob's truck, got them tied down, hitched up
his boat, and proceded to shove as much stuff as we could into his boat, and
front of his Truck.
another 45 minutes or so had passed, and we had pretty much decided that we had
all we were gonna get, my poor ole truck was so loaded, that it was pretty much
draggin the rear bumper, and the tires were just about half flat, was gonna be
a long slow ride home. Bob's truck was just about the same, don't think we
could have shoved to much more into it either !
It was now a little after 5:00 p.m. and was time to leave, we took another look
at the fire, it had grown even more, and looked as if it had traveled another 2
miles east, and now the smoke cloud was reminding me of what MT. ST. Helens
looked like when it blew its top 20 some odd years ago, not a pretty site !
As we were getting ready to leave, Jordan came up to me, and
with some pretty red and wet eyes, made the statement that this was just about
the saddest day of his life, and I could not help but think he was probally
right, as for the last five years this has been our radio contesting home, as
Bob and his wife Laverna have been gracious hosts to my two boys and I, we have
gone there and played radio so many times in the last five years that the
contests are becoming a blurr, we have had nothing but great times and great
memories at the Three Rivers Contest Club, to think that it could be over with
and that the next time that we see the place, it could be nothing more than
"toast" it was just a little to mind numbing. About all I could do was give him
a hug, let him know that there was nothing we could do at the moment, and just
hope for the best. it was time to go.
Here I am writing this late sunday evening, and still no word on
what if anything has happened to W7GG'S place, they are not letting anybody in,
and the news reports don't look all of that good, fire is still spreading.
for those of you that would like to send a kind word of two to Bob, here's his
e-mail address:
bob.wrubble@verizon.net
vy 73...... Ken....... K7ZUM........ FS/K7ZUM........ PJ7/K7ZUM
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>From n2mg at eham.net Tue Jul 16 08:14:24 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
References: <3D33136F.4886.22C6C8B@localhost>
Message-ID: <007b01c22cb9$f1c533c0$3201a8c0@mikehome>
In the conversation below, you have already engaged in a somewhat extended
dialog (for a contest) - why not finish it and tell him, "This contest is
the IARU contest and uses IARU zones which are different from CQ zones.
You're definitely in Zone 8." ? Then log him as such. If he asks for more
info, send him to the ARRL website.
I log what I think is correct - usually that's whatever the guy sent, but
when you know better, well...
73 Mike N2MG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Hiers" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:24 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Another IARU question
> Every time I work this contest I work folks that don't know their
> zone.
>
> Let's say a W1 calls and tells me he's in zone 5.
>
> I ask "what's your QTH?"
>
> "Maine"
>
> "OK, that's ITU zone 8"
>
> "No, I'm in zone 5"
>
> Or some similar discourse.
>
> So, how do you log it / count points?
>
> 73 de Lee
>
>
> --
> Lee Hiers, AA4GA
> Cornelia, Georgia
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Jul 16 08:17:27 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Drugs @ WRTC - final results?
Message-ID: <004501c22cba$5e327720$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
...there is a rumor circulating around the West Coast that N6AA and N6TJ were
penalized for using performance enhancing drugs in WRTC - belive there is a
factual error however...
Rather than the supposed drug, Geritol...I believe it was actually Icy-Hot
being rubbed on their sending hands.
Sure wish the Finns would update the WRTC site, suspect the awards ceremony was
one kb party and they are still trashed - do have some insider info but the
rest of the World and all of the Florida Contest Group has been glued to their
web page for two days now - and the winner is?
73,
Jim, K4OJ
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Tue Jul 16 12:26:48 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 2002 Results
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020716102648.01310e9c@pop.vnet.net>
>From today's issue of The Daily DX:
This past weekend was the annual running of the IARU HF Championship
in which 52 top-notch two-man teams from all over the world competed
in the fourth running of the World Radio Team Championships held in
Helsinki, Finland. As of press time the official results had just
been made at a ceremony in down town Helsinki with over 400 people in
attendance. Your editor spoke directly with Marti Laine, OH2BH, Co-
Chairman of WRTC2002. Here are the top 10 finishers. Scores and
other details were not available, but should be posted at
http://www.wrtc2002.org later this week.
Rank Operators (station)
1 N5TJ - K1TO (OH2HXP) 6 VE3EJ - VE7ZO
2 RA3AUU - RV1AW (OH3AXA) 7 K5ZD - K1KI
3 DL2CC - DL6FBL (OX1XX) 8 UT4UZ - UT3UA
4 N6MJ - N2NL 9 LY1DS - LY2TA
5 KQ2M - W7WA 10 DK3GI - DL1IAO
Dan Street, K1TO, and Jeff Steinman, N5TJ, from the US, won the event.
The two were operating from the OH2HXP station using the callsign
OJ3A. This is the third straight win for the dynamic duo. This is
the second time the Russian team has come in second place.
At one point the Scoreboard reported the N6TJ and N6AA team as the
winner, however the TR logging program inflated their score. The
German team also has some minor deductions due to their logging
program Writelog. Congratulations to all the team members and a
special thanks to the SRAL and Contest Club of Finland for hosting
this fantastic event.
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Jul 16 08:39:08 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #255 - 11 msgs
References: <200207161121.g6GBLc5r004184@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <009301c22cbd$65e458a0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
here are the first web photos of Dan and his partner Jeff at the
ceremonies....
>Who won?
The official top five and photos of the awards ceremony are available on
the NCJ web site:
http://www.ncjweb.com/
I assume complete results will soon be available on the official WRTC 2002
web site.
>From k1ir at designet.com Tue Jul 16 09:16:40 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W7GG - thinking of you
Message-ID: <n3rhgxem6xm8eln.160720020816@designet-jsi>
Thanks to Ken's first-person account of your experience this weekend, I was
able to understand just a bit of what you must be going through. Sure hope you
emerge from this "ok".
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 16 10:09:28 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
References: <20020712213837.HVSX20539.fep06-app.kolumbus.fi@[193.229.5.110]>
<3D33A69D.9470A48E@cncnet.com>
Message-ID: <3D341B08.8BED670B@gte.net>
Bill wrote:
> Please tell us supporters of WRTC02 WHO WON the
> competition!
Here are the Top 5
1 N5TJ/K1TO
2 RA3AUU/RV1AW
3 DL2CC/DL6FBL
4 N6MJ/N2NL
5 KQ2M/W7WA
> Obviously there were some scoring problems, most
> notably with N6TJ and N6AA. PLEASE tell us why their
> score decreased as time passed; that should not be possible.
>From our man, K1TO:
"The N6TJ/N6AA score was inflated by TR and they finished about 15th."
> PLEASE tell us which teams were associated with which
> OJ callsigns!
K1TO/N5TJ were OJ3A. That's the only one I know of.
Ron, WD4AHZ
>From gm3woj at talk21.com Tue Jul 16 14:48:35 2002
From: gm3woj@talk21.com (Chris Tran GM3WOJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 results
Message-ID: <000301c22cc7$1f47abe0$6499fea9@chris.tranbtinternet.com>
Probably everyone will post this info., but the
final results + list of who was using which OJ callsign
is now at
http://www.wrtc2002.org/results.htm
73
Chris GM3WOJ
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 16 11:03:18 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC FINAL RESULTS
Message-ID: <3D3427A6.2B582239@gte.net>
THE FINAL RESULTS OF WRTC2002:
1. OJ3A N5TJ/K1TO 438/2782 = 1.629.798
2. OJ8E RA3AUU/RV1AW 426/2627 = 1.619.226
3. OJ2V DL2CC/DL6FBL 473/2468 = 1.608.673
4. OJ3R N6MJ/N2NL 436/2705 = 1.560.008
5. OJ8K KQ2M/W7WA 394/2816 = 1.479.470
6. OJ5A VE3EJ/VE7ZO 437/2635 = 1.473.127
7. OJ1M K5ZD/K1KI 457/2519 = 1.469.255
8. OJ6E UT4UZ/UT3UA 416/2637 = 1.468.064
9. OJ5W LY1DS/LY2TA 416/2638 = 1.459.744
10. OJ5M DK3GI/DL1IAO 440/2534 = 1.456.840
11. OJ6W OE2VEL/OE9MON 416/2560 = 1.436.448
12. OJ6C RW1AC/RW3QC 395/2776 = 1.414.100
13. OJ5U N6RT/N2NT 432/2435 = 1.412.640
14. OJ8W 9A9A/9A5E 373/2778 = 1.405.837
15. OJ7M SP3RBR/SP8NR 403/2650 = 1.402.440
16. OJ2F N6TJ/N6AA 397/2428 = 1.391.088
17. OJ3T RZ9UA/UA9MA 395/2708 = 1.390.795
18. OJ2H N5RZ/K2UA 410/2559 = 1.388.670
19. OJ8A K1AR/K1DG 432/2382 = 1.382.400
20. OJ2J HA1AG/HA3OV 408/2602 = 1.368.432
21. OJ3N N2IC/K6LL 405/2513 = 1.355.940
22. OJ4M K3LR/N9RV 366/2642 = 1.347.612
23. OJ3D W4AN/K4BAI 389/2530 = 1.347.107
24. OJ2Y UA2FZ/RW4WR 421/2389 = 1.331.623
25. OJ4N ON6TT/ON4WW 416/2260 = 1.301.248
26. OJ2Q YU7BW/YU1ZZ 381/2743 = 1.300.734
27. OJ6X OH1MDR/OH1MM 438/2267 = 1.293.414
28. OJ7C ES5MC/ES2RR 393/2505 = 1.288.254
29. OJ2Z G4PIQ/G4BWP 419/2342 = 1.277.950
30. OJ6N OK2FD/OK2ZU 379/2446 = 1.274.577
31. OJ1S SP7GIQ/SP2FAX 371/2498 = 1.234.317
32. OJ5T SM5IMO/SM3SGP 386/2381 = 1.214.742
33. OJ7X S50A/S59AA 379/2542 = 1.210.147
34. OJ4S JM1CAX/JE1JKL 392/2289 = 1.205.008
35. OJ7N YL2KL/YL3DW 382/2392 = 1.196.424
36. OJ3X 5B4ADA/5B4WN 386/2310 = 1.186.950
37. OJ7S N5KO/N1YC 389/2177 = 1.142.882
38. OJ1X K1ZM/N6ZZ 370/2354 = 1.139.230
39. OJ5E OH6EI/OH2XX 402/2059 = 1.131.630
40. OJ1F NT1N/AG9A 397/2101 = 1.105.645
41. OJ5Z F6FGZ/F5NLY 375/2016 = 1.086.750
42. OJ8N YT1AD/YU7NU 359/2335 = 1.069.820
43. OJ7W UA9BA/RN9AO 368/2168 = 1.052.480
44. OJ6K VE7SV/VE7AHA 351/2257 = 1.045.980
45. OJ4A DJ6QT/DL2OBF 347/2166 = 1.005.259
46. OJ1C LU7DW/LU1FAM 322/2335 = 986.930
47. OJ7A PP5JR/PY1KN 333/2263 = 978.021
48. OJ1N EA3AIR/EA3KU 340/2140 = 954.380
49. OJ8L S56M/S57AL 345/1920 = 883.545
50. OJ1W ZS6EZ/ZS4TX 369/1723 = 880.065
51. OJ6Y IK2QEI/I4UFH 339/1921 = 878.349
52. OJ4W UN9LW/UN7LAN 297/1893 = 699.732
Some software used by teams did not count multipliers correctly.
This is the reason why some claimed scores were changed just after
the contest on the scoreboard.
>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Tue Jul 16 15:16:55 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 FINAL RESULTS
Message-ID: <01c22cba$4b3b1e60$LocalHost@default>
The final results of WRTC2002 can be found at www.wrtc2002.org
There'll be more writeups coming up in the near future.
73 Ari, OH1EH
>From n2mg at eham.net Tue Jul 16 12:31:32 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Results?
Message-ID: <200207161431.g6GEVV5r006366@contesting.com>
That page only shows the team mates' calls.
Try this
http://www.wrtc2002.org/results.htm
-Mike N2MG
The following me
ssage was sent by "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org> on Mon, 15 Jul 2002
22:39:15 -0500.
>
> What AHZ asked for was who was who among the OJ calls...
>
> Is this what you are after, Jim....
>
> http://wrtc.jouni.net/cgi-bin/pos.pl?hpng=WRTC
>
> 73,
> dale, kg5u
>
> >
> > In a message dated 7/15/2002 6:55:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > wd4ahz@gte.net
> > writes:
> >
> >
> > > it's now after 1:30 AM in OH land ... 7 1/2 hours after the
> > Awards Dinner.
> > >
> > > Who won?
> > >
> >
> >
> > Of all the people in the world, I thought you guys in Florida would
> > understand having to wait... and wait... and wait... for the
> > results from a
> > close contest. :-)
> >
> > Only 36 and 2/3 days to go.
> >
> >
> > Jim K8MR
> >
> > (Also waiting to hear)
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>From ken.knopp at verizon.net Tue Jul 16 08:58:25 2002
From: ken.knopp@verizon.net (Ken K7ZUM)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] correction on w7gg's address, three rivers fire
Message-ID: <001601c22cd9$3d05a260$6401a8c0@dslverizon.net>
I have been corrected on W7GG'S e-mail address,
if anybody would like to send a note to Bob about the three rivers fire and his
contest station
the correct address is bob.wruble@verizon.net
was late sunday evening, and I was well pooped out from the weekend experience
!!
73.... Ken.... K7ZUM
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>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Tue Jul 16 16:40:15 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Results - Shortened Version
Message-ID: <01c22cc5$ef48cba0$LocalHost@default>
THE FINAL RESULTS OF WRTC2002:
1. OJ3A N5TJ/K1TO 438/2782 = 1.629.798
2. OJ8E RA3AUU/RV1AW 426/2627 = 1.619.226
3. OJ2V DL2CC/DL6FBL 473/2468 = 1.608.673
4. OJ3R N6MJ/N2NL 436/2705 = 1.560.008
5. OJ8K KQ2M/W7WA 394/2816 = 1.479.470
6. OJ5A VE3EJ/VE7ZO 437/2635 = 1.473.127
7. OJ1M K5ZD/K1KI 457/2519 = 1.469.255
8. OJ6E UT4UZ/UT3UA 416/2637 = 1.468.064
9. OJ5W LY1DS/LY2TA 416/2638 = 1.459.744
10.OJ5M DK3GI/DL1IAO 440/2534 = 1456.840
11.OJ6W OE2VEL/OE9MON 416/2560 = 1.436.448
12.OJ6C RW1AC/RW3QC 395/2776 = 1.414.100
13.OJ5U N6RT/N2NT 432/2435 = 1.412.640
14.OJ8W 9A9A/9A5E 373/2778 = 1.405.837
15.OJ7M SP3RBR/SP8NR 403/2650 = 1.402.440
16.OJ2F N6TJ/N6AA 397/2428 = 1.391.088
17.OJ3T RZ9UA/UA9MA 395/2708 = 1.390.795
18.OJ2H N5RZ/K2UA 410/2559 = 1.388.670
19.OJ8A K1AR/K1DG 432/2382 = 1.382.400
20.OJ2J HA1AG/HA3OV 408/2602 = 1.368.432
21.OJ3N N2IC/K6LL 405/2513 = 1.355.940
22.OJ4M K3LR/N9RV 366/2642 = 1.347.612
23.OJ3D W4AN/K4BAI 389/2530 = 1.347.107
24.OJ2Y UA2FZ/RW4WR 421/2389 = 1.331.623
25.OJ4N ON6TT/ON4WW 416/2260 = 1.301.248
26.OJ2Q YU7BW/YU1ZZ 381/2743 = 1.300.734
27.OJ6X OH1MDR/OH1MM 438/2267 = 1.293.414
28.OJ7C ES5MC/ES2RR 393/2505 = 1.288.254
29.OJ2Z G4PIQ/G4BWP 419/2342 = 1.277.950
30.OJ6N OK2FD/OK2ZU 379/2446 = 1.274.577
31.OJ1S SP7GIQ/SP2FAX 371/2498 = 1.234.317
32.OJ5T SM5IMO/SM3SGP 386/2381 = 1.214.742
33.OJ7X S50A/S59AA 379/2542 = 1.210.147
34.OJ4S JM1CAX/JE1JKL 392/2289 = 1.205.008
35.OJ7N YL2KL/YL3DW 382/2392 = 1.196.424
36.OJ3X 5B4ADA/5B4WN 386/2310 = 1.186.950
37.OJ7S N5KO/N1YC 389/2177 = 1.142.882
38.OJ1X K1ZM/N6ZZ 370/2354 = 1.139.230
39.OJ5E OH6EI/OH2XX 402/2059 = 1.131.630
40.OJ1F NT1N/AG9A 397/2101 = 1.105.645
41.OJ5Z F6FGZ/F5NLY 375/2016 = 1.086.750
42.OJ8N YT1AD/YU7NU 359/2335 = 1.069.820
43.OJ7W UA9BA/RN9AO 368/2168 = 1.052.480
44.OJ6K VE7SV/VE7AHA 351/2257 = 1.045.980
45.OJ4A DJ6QT/DL2OBF 347/2166 = 1.005.259
46.OJ1C LU7DW/LU1FAM 322/2335 = 986.930
47.OJ7A PP5JR/PY1KN 333/2263 = 978.021
48.OJ1N EA3AIR/EA3KU 340/2140 = 954.380
49.OJ8L S56M/S57AL 345/1920 = 883.545
50.OJ1W ZS6EZ/ZS4TX 369/1723 = 880.065
51.OJ6Y IK2QEI/I4UFH 339/1921 = 878.349
52.OJ4W UN9LW/UN7LAN 297/1893 = 699.732
Some softwares used by teams did not count multipliers correctly.
This is the reason why some claimed scores were changed just after
the contest on the scoreboard.
Full WRTC2002 score sheet in Excel-format is available at
www.wrtc2002.org
Ari, OH1EH
>From slazar19 at sgi.net Tue Jul 16 13:21:10 2002
From: slazar19@sgi.net (Spencer Lazar)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] NEW/REVISED WRTC 2002 Final Scores
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20020716122110.0084c220@mail.stargate.net>
Commissioner Bud Selig of WRTC 2002 has declared the contest a tie
because all the contestants had run out of qso's.
Spike W9XR
>From dave at egh.com Tue Jul 16 13:28:21 2002
From: dave@egh.com (David Clemons)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Choice of Calls
Message-ID: <00A1104C.BC96C113.44@egh.com>
I'm sure you all noticed that the WRTC2002 hosts had OJ callsigns
assigned, which was the first time they were used in amateur radio
history. Did anyone else figure out why the OJ block was used?
Hints:
- it was done to honor a very famous contester, who originally
cq'ed from the center of US DX Contesting (New England!)
- it was done to honor one of the original organizers of a
very famous state qso party (only %%% more days until the FQP!)
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
>From N5RP at pdq.net Tue Jul 16 12:39:59 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 160 Contest stuff
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020716113915.00b40bf0@pop.pdq.net>
http://www.eham.net/classifieds/detail/55213
http://www.eham.net/classifieds/detail/55212
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From N5RP at pdq.net Tue Jul 16 12:52:28 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 Choice of Calls
In-Reply-To: <00A1104C.BC96C113.44@egh.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020716115146.00b86d68@pop.pdq.net>
At 12:28 7/16/2002 -0400, David Clemons wrote:
> I'm sure you all noticed that the WRTC2002 hosts had OJ callsigns
> assigned, which was the first time they were used in amateur radio
> history. Did anyone else figure out why the OJ block was used?
========================>
Ops wore leather gloves that were too tight.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 16 11:15:13 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207161715.g6GHFDX12521@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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NA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW LP
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW QRP
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
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NA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB LP
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 16 11:16:03 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207161716.g6GHG3O12530@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA M/S HP
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW LP
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed HP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB HP
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB LP
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
Operators:
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 16 11:21:29 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207161721.g6GHLTs12558@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 16Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
VE5RI 527 1214 41 40 24 818,424
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
VE7AVV 0 809 0 40 15 198,960 BCDX Club
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
K4BAI 181 22 0 0 27,632 SECC
K1GU 118 0 28 0 4 24,920 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE5SF 416 562 39 39 18 579,696
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VA6RA 1 180 1 24 39,050
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VA3WN 142 50 13 10 6 26,542
W0ETT 100 2 25 1 7 21,632 Grand Mesa
VE3ANX 116 2 23 1 2 18,240
W1TO 67 12 15 5 12,680 YCCC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
N4WSM 0 29 0 13 4,550 TCG
W4NZ 32 3 9 2 3,300
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
VE3XAX 334 114 37 24 208,864 U-VE Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
VE3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 56 41 6 9 12 9,870
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From nt5c at texas.net Tue Jul 16 14:06:20 2002
From: nt5c@texas.net (John Warren)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: WRTC2002 Choice of Calls
In-Reply-To: <00A1104C.BC96C113.44@egh.com>
References: <00A1104C.BC96C113.44@egh.com>
Message-ID: <p04330101b95a1ca79f03@EIM-Mac-1.0.7>
>Did anyone else figure out why the OJ block was used?
To honor the man who made the name Hertz famous?
John, NT5C.
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Tue Jul 16 19:10:19 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020716171019.01344d50@pop.vnet.net>
In thinking about the WRTC 2002, the Finns certainly
deserve our thanks for making the playing field as level as
it has ever been by using identical antennas at the same height
over flat terrain within a limited area of Finland. From what
I understand of prior WRTC's, the 2002 edition was a major advance.
However, I've heard of at least one instance of severe
antenna interaction and problems with local power line QRN. Noticing
how poorly some of the excellent teams did in the standings, I cannot
help but believe that there may have been more than one case of
antenna interaction problems at specific sites.
Here are a few thoughts for the 2004 sponsor assuming
someone steps up to the plate. First, repeat the Finns' excellent
idea of identical antennas over flat terrain at the same height within
a limited geographic area, but remove antenna interaction and local
line noise problems from the equation.
How to do this?
1. Locate 50 stations along a remote flat seacoast a set distance
from high tide levels every mile along a 50 mile stretch of isolated
beach. During the summertime, comfort should not be much of a
problem due to temperature. Tents, generators, porta-potties and
coolers could provide what most of us need to survive a 24 hour contest.
We do it all the time in Field Day don't we?
2. Use identical multiband verticals with identical radial systems.
These are simple, inexpensive, easy to erect, and should work very
well near salt water.
3. Use small <1KW generators like the VP8THU/VP8GEO team used...
possibly backed up by UPS in case a referee temporarily forgets to
refuel.
Something like this should remove the variables of antenna
interaction and local power line noise, and I suspect there are
areas (like National Seashores in the US) that are not too far
removed from civilization for other necessary parts of the WRTC
(administrative meetings, awards dinners, etc.).
Something to think about while WRTC is fresh in our minds and
as clubs think about sponsoring the next WRTC in 2004.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From thompson at mindspring.com Tue Jul 16 16:40:50 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
Message-ID: <001f01c22d00$b43642a0$3c1256d1@default>
It seems that with all the effort to provide similar transceiver, location,
and antennas that the same software would be used. And the software should
be tested beforehand.
I always run several different logs through my CQ 160 software each year to
assure its checking OK and get rid of bugs. Writelog authors and
supporters including K9JY say that for each contest you should always set up
a test log and give it a spin before the contest. With N6AA, K5ZD and other
logging experts on hand this should have been fundamental.
I am also concerned that the address for e-mail logs filled up and kicked
back some logs.
Otherwise congratulations to the contestants and sponsors.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From n2mg at eham.net Tue Jul 16 18:46:31 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
Message-ID: <200207162046.g6GKkU5r012628@contesting.com>
I don't think I'd want to be the one to tell a WRTC competitor who has
used CT for 10 years that he has to learn TRLog or SuperDuper or
whatever. I believe it's pretty much the same reasoning behind letting
the ops choose their own radios.
But I agree that the software should have been tested...alas. It'll be
interesting to see just what the bug was.
-Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
on Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:40:50 -0400.
> It seems that with all the effort to provide similar transceiver, location,
> and antennas that the same software would be used. And the software should
> be tested beforehand.
>
> I always run several different logs through my CQ 160 software each year to
> assure its checking OK and get rid of bugs. Writelog authors and
> supporters including K9JY say that for each contest you should always set up
> a test log and give it a spin before the contest. With N6AA, K5ZD and other
> logging experts on hand this should have been fundamental.
>
> I am also concerned that the address for e-mail logs filled up and kicked
> back some logs.
>
> Otherwise congratulations to the contestants and sponsors.
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Wed Jul 17 02:39:30 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DD7@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Winners N5TJ & K1TO
Second RA3AUU & RV1AW
Third DL6FBL & DL2CC
AA & TJ lost a lot from their score, I do not
have details of the reasons, but understanding
is other one used caps lock and the other did not
so some multis were counted twice.
73,
Jukka
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Bill [mailto:k6km@cncnet.com]
> Sent: 16 July, 2002 07:53
> To: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi
> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
>
>
>
> Hei OH-land!
>
> What is happening there?
>
> Please tell us supporters of WRTC02 WHO WON the
> competition!
>
> Obviously there were some scoring problems, most
> notably with N6TJ and N6AA. PLEASE tell us why their
> score decreased as time passed; that should not be possible.
>
> PLEASE tell us why the N5KO/9V1YC score went
> flat in the last few hours.
>
> PLEASE tell us which teams were associated with which
> OJ callsigns!
>
> PLEASE tell us what's going on. To me, the delay in
> reporting results means that POLITICS is coming in
> to play and POLITICS may be more meaningful than
> PERFORMANCE in determing the final results.
>
> PLEASE prove me wrong.
>
> As any one might expect, Team Finland did a wonderful
> job preparing for and hosting WRTC 2002. Thank you
> for that. But WHY have you kept the world in ignorance
> as to the results?
>
> PLEASE TELL US WOT's UP!
>
> Bill K6KM
> also OH2/K6KM and OH0/K6KM
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From 107770.3462 at compuserve.com Tue Jul 16 23:02:36 2002
From: 107770.3462@compuserve.com (James P. Cassidy)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W7GG
Message-ID: <200207162202_MC3-1-6AF-B3EF@compuserve.com>
Just heard that W7GGs buildings were spared in the fire. So just a matter
of putting the station back together.
73 Jim KI7Y
>From llindblom at juno.com Wed Jul 17 03:14:15 2002
From: llindblom@juno.com (Larry L Lindblom)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [TCG] NAQP RTTY - Its Almost Here
Message-ID: <20020717.021415.-1035393.1.LLindblom@juno.com>
Operator are standing by to sign you on to a TCG team for NAQP RTTY. The
event starts this Saturday at 1800 UTC so don't hesitate. Join with us
be you going for broke or only able to play for a few hours. Either way
I'd love to sign you up for a team. For those who want a big score that
is our goal for those that just want to have fun that is also our goal.
And, if you can run a big score and have fun we are 100% in agreement.
Life is too short not to have fun, I know that after a couple of major
illnesses.
Those signed on so far include:
K4GKM
K4RO
W4BCG
N1NB
KE4OAR
N2WK
W5CTV
AI9T
VE9DX
W4OX
W4LC
As you can see there is plenty of room for more. We'll have as many
teams as we can. Come on guys ring those phones off of the wall.
If you emailed me and don't see your call listed, send me another email
as I might of fat fingered it into the trash by mistake.
W0ETC in IA
>From K9GY at K9GY.com Wed Jul 17 04:19:05 2002
From: K9GY@K9GY.com (Eric K9GY)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WAE CW - Get Ready!
Message-ID: <001b01c22d40$bbd43a40$444d180a@9byjx01>
The WAE CW is almost here!
Saturday, 0000z August 10 until Sunday, 2359z August 11th
http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/fedcw.htm
>> ...seven essential changes to the current rules
>> 1. Additional multipliers for EU participants
>> 2. Splitting of the Single OP category into High and Low Power classes
>> 3. Markup of the "unassisted" participants
>> 4. Abolishing the 10-minute QSY rule for Single OPs
>> 5. Non-ambiguous definition of the Multi Single operation
>> 6. Credit for stations outside the contest
>> 7. SWL Category
2001 WAE Club winners (all three modes):
>> Europe: Bavarian Contest Club (DL) 20,380,025
>> Non-Europe: Frankford Radio Club (W3) 17,246,398
Catch the excitement during WAE CW 2002!
73, Eric
>From K9GY at K9GY.com Wed Jul 17 04:48:56 2002
From: K9GY@K9GY.com (Eric K9GY)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WAE CW - S/O USA "Millionaires"
Message-ID: <004001c22d44$e78563e0$444d180a@9byjx01>
Six new additions to the USA S/O WAE CW millionaires!
Yr Call Total Score Qs QTCs Mults
2001 N2NC 1,605,344 1,810 1,726 454
1996 KE2PF 1,499,998 1,706 1,680 443
2001 N4AF 1,442,408 1,690 1,566 443
2001 K3WW 1,328,392 1,579 1,554 424
1996 K1JKS 1,297,728 1,503 1,501 432
------------------------------------------------------
2001 K3NM 1,281,721 1,535 1,524 419 op-LU9AY
2001 K5KG 1,183,217 1,389 1,382 427
2001 AA3B 1,182,384 1,446 1,410 414
1997 KQ2M 1,137,664 1,416 1,400 404
1981 K1GQ 1,128,330 1,393 1,393 405
------------------------------------------------------
1982 W1ZM 1,112,889 1,361 1,360 409
1983 KC1F 1,088,960 1,328 1,328 410
1997 N1BB 1,071,900 1,350 1,350 397
1979 K1PR 1,051,264 1,379 1,373 382
1981 W1ZM 1,041,913 1,420 1,419 367
------------------------------------------------------
1982 KC1F 1,034,838 1,355 1,354 382
1999 W4MYA 1,014,468 1,404 1,383 364
17 USA S/O entries made it over the million mark since 1974.
Become RADIO-ACTIVE in WAE CW 2002!
http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/fedcw.htm
>From ua3ap at mail.ru Wed Jul 17 09:00:11 2002
From: ua3ap@mail.ru (Sergei Kulyov)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Early bird lottery/log confirmation
Message-ID: <E17Ufz1-0009Qu-00@f13.mail.ru>
Hello to everybody
I have couple questions regarding the WRTC-2002 results for non-WRTC
participants.
1. Any idea when the results of "Early bird" lottery will be on the WEB?
2. As others I haven't got the confirmation from the logs@wrtc2002.org address
that my log arrived. Will they publish the list of received logs?
Anyway it was a big pleasure to work the WRTC guys. Made 265 QSO with OJs.
73 es GL, Sergei - UA3AP
>From harry at oh6yf.com Wed Jul 17 10:11:32 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Some new WRTC Photos & Pileup Downloads
References: <200207162202_MC3-1-6AF-B3EF@compuserve.com>
Message-ID: <000601c22d58$cc67ec90$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hello!
There are now some new photos from WRTC 2002 at:
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
You can also find WRTC Pileup recordings in MP3 format there.
73 de Harry OH6YF
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
>From k3ft at erols.com Wed Jul 17 05:57:18 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MD-DC QSO party 10 - 11 August 2002
Message-ID: <3D353F7E.6FC7@erols.com>
MD/DC QSO party is upcoming 10-11 August 2002. See website for Antietam
Radio Assocition W3CWC for details. Site can be found doing search for
W3CWC, MDC QSO PARTY, Antietam Radio Association.
Nice event.. special award for working all 25 MD/DC counties/Baltimore
City. Not an 'iron man' event. Runs from noon local Saturday till
midnight local Saturday and noon local Sunday until 8pm local Sunday.
73
Chuck K3FT
It's same weekend as WAE so you can combine both and have a REALLY good
time!
>From k3ft at erols.com Wed Jul 17 06:08:07 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MDC QSO party website URL
Message-ID: <3D354207.739F@erols.com>
Found it. Can be reached at http://www.w3cwc.org/funcontest.htm
73
Chuck K3FT
>From N5RP at pdq.net Wed Jul 17 08:28:58 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Early Bird Prizes
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020717072744.00b3fec0@pop.pdq.net>
Just received my E-mail notification of my winning an early bird log
submittal prize.
E-mail went to the address I used for submittal, so I was not even aware of
my winning.
WOW !
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Wed Jul 17 09:16:44 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020716171019.01344d50@pop.vnet.net>; from Bill Tippett
on Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 06:10:19PM +0100
References: <1.5.4.32.20020716171019.01344d50@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <20020717081644.D23499@cs.utexas.edu>
On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 06:10:19PM +0100, Bill Tippett wrote:
> In thinking about the WRTC 2002, the Finns certainly
> deserve our thanks for making the playing field as level as
> it has ever been by using identical antennas at the same height
> over flat terrain within a limited area of Finland. From what
> I understand of prior WRTC's, the 2002 edition was a major advance.
>
> However, I've heard of at least one instance of severe
> antenna interaction and problems with local power line QRN. Noticing
> how poorly some of the excellent teams did in the standings, I cannot
> help but believe that there may have been more than one case of
> antenna interaction problems at specific sites.
>
> Here are a few thoughts for the 2004 sponsor assuming
> someone steps up to the plate. First, repeat the Finns' excellent
> idea of identical antennas over flat terrain at the same height within
> a limited geographic area, but remove antenna interaction and local
> line noise problems from the equation.
>
> How to do this?
>
> 1. Locate 50 stations along a remote flat seacoast a set distance
> from high tide levels every mile along a 50 mile stretch of isolated
> beach. During the summertime, comfort should not be much of a
> problem due to temperature. Tents, generators, porta-potties and
> coolers could provide what most of us need to survive a 24 hour contest.
> We do it all the time in Field Day don't we?
>
> 2. Use identical multiband verticals with identical radial systems.
> These are simple, inexpensive, easy to erect, and should work very
> well near salt water.
>
> 3. Use small <1KW generators like the VP8THU/VP8GEO team used...
> possibly backed up by UPS in case a referee temporarily forgets to
> refuel.
Some of us at W1AW/5 tossed around very similar ideas while we were on
standby to operate. One place this could be done is Padre Island
National Seashore on the Gulf coast of Texas. I'm sure there are
places in Florida and the barrier islands of North Carolina that
would work, too.
Drawbacks:
* Random beach-goers walking into RF fields, touching the antennas, etc.
* At least on Padre, there's a lot of vehicle traffic on the beach -
which means ignition noise.
* Texas, Florida, and the Carolinas are all subject to summer thunderstorms
and tropical rains.
* There would be concern about the heat giving the USA and SA operators
an unfair advantage over EU operators.
In any event, I think Florida would make a great host site - the terrain
across the state is very flat, you could robably find enough air-conditioned
operating sites in a 50 kilometer radius, and the Florida Contest Group is
fairly active and involved.
Other places that I think would be great:
* Japan (although, the way things are going, it wouldn't surprise me if
next year there were no Japanese teams invited at all.)
* Australia
* SMC country
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>From swca at swbell.net Wed Jul 17 10:33:53 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
References: <001f01c22d00$b43642a0$3c1256d1@default>
Message-ID: <053701c22d9e$fc6f4af0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Dave, K4JRB wrote:
>It seems that with all the effort to
>provide similar transceiver, location,
>and antennas that the same software
>would be used.
No effort was made to "provide similar transceivers," only antennas,
supports and rotators. The competitors were required by the rules to
provide their own radios. Likewise, they were required to provide PCs and
the software of their own choice.
>From what I understand, the sponsors were aware of the scoring problem by
the start of the contest, but they elected to post the inaccurate real-time
scores. Perhaps, they could have responded differently to this. That's
20/20 hindsight now.
>And the software should
>be tested beforehand.
The software was tested. Nevertheless the problem was not detected until
everyone was in too deep. It is just unfortunate, that's all. I'm sure
everyone is learning a lot from this first-time experience of publishing
scores-in-progress during a contest.
I agree with Dave when he says "congratulations to the contestants and
sponsors" for sure! This was the best WRTC yet.
Mark, N5OT
>From frenaye at pcnet.com Wed Jul 17 12:52:48 2002
From: frenaye@pcnet.com (Tom Frenaye)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: [NEWSVHF] ARRL Claimed scores
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020717114713.025b4d00@204.213.232.3 >
Thought this would be of interest. Talked to N1ND - he says the listing of
logs received will show claimed scores for all ARRL contests - but only after
the log submission deadline has passed.
-- Tom
>To: newsvhf@mailman.qth.net
>From: Ron Klimas WZ1V <wz1v@ntplx.net>
>Subject: [NEWSVHF] ARRL Claimed scores
>Sender: newsvhf-admin@mailman.qth.net
>
>Something new, Reports from the Contest Log Robot extracts claimed scores,
>check out the ones for June:
>http://www.arrl.org/contests/claimed/
>
>-73, Ron WZ1V
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
e-mail: frenaye@pcnet.com YCCC --> http://www.yccc.org/
Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Wed Jul 17 09:59:40 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (Bob Wruble)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W7GG/IARU/ Fire
Message-ID: <00c201c22daa$f5926ee0$eefd3d04@bobhome>
Many of you have sent me notes after reading Ken's (K7ZUM) account of our
adventuire during the IARU test. Thanks to all for their thots and concerns.
In the end my radio QTH was spared by the fast moving forest fire that hit
our area in Centrsl Oregon last Saturday during the IARU test. As in most
forest fires wind speed and direction plays a big role in who is hit or missed.
As Ken pointed out we were told to evacuate Saturday afternoon right in the
middle of the IARU event. At that time it looked like we were in for it but
were
spared. I'm going back to the radio QTH this weekend to start re setting up
the station.
Once again thanks to all for their kind wishes,
de Bob, W7GG, Ai7b, WW7OR
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>From n2nl at yahoo.com Wed Jul 17 10:29:53 2002
From: n2nl@yahoo.com (David Mueller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <20020717081644.D23499@cs.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <20020717162953.65549.qmail@web21402.mail.yahoo.com>
K1TO, WC4E and myself were approached several times in
Finland about the possibility of having the next WRTC
in Florida. Although it would be easy to have
identical stations due to the flat terrain, the
biggest problem in July is the weather. Not only can
it be oppressivly hot to some of the competitors,
there are the thunderstorms which are a daily
occurance this time of year. The percent chance of
having a thunderstorm during the contest probably
exceeds 75%. Required off time could be an option,
however there are times these storms last for hours
and hours which could wipe out a team's chances.
The word from K7LXC at the award dinner were that
there were possible hosts from 4 continents (didn't
specify beyond that) for the next one which most
likely will be held in 2006.
73, Dave N2NL
--- "Kenneth E. Harker" <kharker@cs.utexas.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 06:10:19PM +0100, Bill
> Tippett wrote:
> > In thinking about the WRTC 2002, the Finns
> certainly
> > deserve our thanks for making the playing field as
> level as
> > it has ever been by using identical antennas at
> the same height
> > over flat terrain within a limited area of
> Finland. From what
> > I understand of prior WRTC's, the 2002 edition was
> a major advance.
> >
> > However, I've heard of at least one
> instance of severe
> > antenna interaction and problems with local power
> line QRN. Noticing
> > how poorly some of the excellent teams did in the
> standings, I cannot
> > help but believe that there may have been more
> than one case of
> > antenna interaction problems at specific sites.
> >
> > Here are a few thoughts for the 2004
> sponsor assuming
> > someone steps up to the plate. First, repeat the
> Finns' excellent
> > idea of identical antennas over flat terrain at
> the same height within
> > a limited geographic area, but remove antenna
> interaction and local
> > line noise problems from the equation.
> >
> > How to do this?
> >
> > 1. Locate 50 stations along a remote flat
> seacoast a set distance
> > from high tide levels every mile along a 50 mile
> stretch of isolated
> > beach. During the summertime, comfort should not
> be much of a
> > problem due to temperature. Tents, generators,
> porta-potties and
> > coolers could provide what most of us need to
> survive a 24 hour contest.
> > We do it all the time in Field Day don't we?
> >
> > 2. Use identical multiband verticals with
> identical radial systems.
> > These are simple, inexpensive, easy to erect, and
> should work very
> > well near salt water.
> >
> > 3. Use small <1KW generators like the
> VP8THU/VP8GEO team used...
> > possibly backed up by UPS in case a referee
> temporarily forgets to
> > refuel.
>
> Some of us at W1AW/5 tossed around very similar
> ideas while we were on
> standby to operate. One place this could be done is
> Padre Island
> National Seashore on the Gulf coast of Texas. I'm
> sure there are
> places in Florida and the barrier islands of North
> Carolina that
> would work, too.
>
> Drawbacks:
>
> * Random beach-goers walking into RF fields,
> touching the antennas, etc.
> * At least on Padre, there's a lot of vehicle
> traffic on the beach -
> which means ignition noise.
> * Texas, Florida, and the Carolinas are all subject
> to summer thunderstorms
> and tropical rains.
> * There would be concern about the heat giving the
> USA and SA operators
> an unfair advantage over EU operators.
>
>
> In any event, I think Florida would make a great
> host site - the terrain
> across the state is very flat, you could robably
> find enough air-conditioned
> operating sites in a 50 kilometer radius, and the
> Florida Contest Group is
> fairly active and involved.
>
> Other places that I think would be great:
>
> * Japan (although, the way things are going, it
> wouldn't surprise me if
> next year there were no Japanese teams
> invited at all.)
>
> * Australia
>
> * SMC country
>
> --
>
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> kharker@cs.utexas.edu
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> Texas DX & Contest Club
> Taylor Hall TAY 2.124
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>From fgrisafi at tin.it Wed Jul 17 19:41:51 2002
From: fgrisafi@tin.it (IT9GSF Fabio Grisafi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IG9A 2002 OP WANTED CQWW 2002
Message-ID: <PMELJIDIKLOKPBNDOFIOCEEFDCAA.fgrisafi@tin.it>
I am looking for a friend to take part in the coming CQWW Contests.
IG9A will be not active as M/M this year but we hope to be QRV all bands
with
Single Op entries.
There is space for a SO/80 meters or SO/160 meters entry for the SSB Contest
and for
a SO/All Band in the CW Contest.
I will operate SO/All band in the SSB Contest and SO/80 in the CW.
It is requested to be in Lampedusa from Oct21 to Oct28 and from Nov21 to
Nov26.
Both periods QRV is a must as I am looking for help to erect antennas and to
take them
down in November.
Goals are:
First place 80 meters SSB with All Time record setting.
One of the first 3 place for SO/ALL SSB.
First place 80 meters CW with All Time record setting.
One of the first 3 place for SO/ALL CW.
Equipments:
We need only a TRX, a rotator and a two elements 40 mts Yagi to complete two
stations.
First station (All bands):
Location: highest point in the island near TV repeater (NO TVI);
KT34XA on a 18 mts tower;
6 el. 15 mts + 5 el. 10 mts Yagi on the second 18 mts aluminum tower;
5 el. 20 mts + 2 el. 40 mts Yagi on the third 18 mts aluminum tower;
80 meters sloopers, 160 mts dipole and sloopers from a 25 meters TV
broadcast tower;
Beverages to W and NW (No other directions possible).
Second station (80 and/or 160 meters):
Location: previous M/M QTH in the north side of the island over a 60 meter
cliff;
Quarter wave vertical with >120 radials;
Several Beverages;
If you are interested please e-mail me directly: fgrisafi@tin.it
73 de Fabio, IT9GSF (One of IG9A 1994-2001).
>From kl7ra at blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov Wed Jul 17 21:51:44 2002
From: kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov (KL7RA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <006a01c22e16$d1e502c0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
>> Here are a few thoughts for the 2004 sponsor assuming
>> someone steps up to the plate. First, repeat the Finns' excellent
>> idea of identical antennas over flat terrain at the same height within
>> a limited geographic area, but remove antenna interaction and local
>> line noise problems from the equation.
>>
>> How to do this?
>>
>> 1. Locate 50 stations along a remote flat seacoast a set distance
>> from high tide levels every mile along a 50 mile stretch of isolated
>> beach.
Or small ships at sea spaced out over some distance, but the cost would
be too much.
I had a great time working the OJ's and found they would pick my call out
very quickly. Conditions here in Alaska were excellent, best I have heard
in years which is odd for July. All the OJ stations usually had the same
signal strength but I also noticed some would have a huge pile and others
not, strange.
Now that's it's over and the contest world has to agree that Dan and Jeff are
indeed the best, I have some questions about the rules the Finns used. Maybe
they could explain to me and the next possible WRTC rule's committee their
logic or thinking.
-- CW and SSB count the same points and no additional multiplier for a second
band mode QSO.
This rule prevents any advantage for a team with equal skills in both
modes.
A team that can do both modes well should be rewarded but this rule says
that a SSB team only can also compete. Is this what we want?
-- Radio A only makes the QSO.
-- Op B can't make QSOs.
-- Op A can not touch radio B
This rule prevents any advantage for a team that can work well together. Two
ops that can read each other's mind and can operate as a team should be
rewarded, but these rules clearly take that away. I assume these rules were
to prevent the "long time together" teams from swamping the playing field,
but again, is this what we want?
73 Rich KL7RA
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Jul 17 11:20:12 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 17Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207171720.g6HHKC613736@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - NA Claimed Scores 17Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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NA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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NA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
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NA SO CW LP
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO CW QRP
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 k 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
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NA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
FM5GU 0 1492 99 9 609,246
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB LP
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
NA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Jul 17 11:20:58 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 17Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207171720.g6HHKwg13745@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - Non-NA Claimed Scores 17Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13,2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA M/S HP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 8927 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO CW LP
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed HP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB HP
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-NA SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From harry at oh6yf.com Wed Jul 17 21:29:10 2002
From: harry@oh6yf.com (Harri M. Mantila OH6YF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Some new WRTC Photos & Pileup Downloads
References: <200207162202_MC3-1-6AF-B3EF@compuserve.com>
<000601c22d58$cc67ec90$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Message-ID: <001a01c22db7$7692ea40$0100a8c0@oh6yf1>
Hi!
I put the rest of the photos of WRTC 2002 to
http://wrtc.oh6yf.com
I will still add some more text later but now I have to drive to the
airport.
CU!
Best 73,
Harry
________________________________
Harri M. Mantila
OH6YF-OH0MYF
Tel: +358505472478
harry@oh6yf.com
http://www.oh6yf.com
>From n2mg at eham.net Wed Jul 17 16:05:09 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. I only
dabbled in the contest, but watching the spots and listening to the
activity at my QTH, the OJ activity seemed far greater on CW than SSB.
In fact, I worked all 52 OJ calls, 48 of them on 20CW, but only 6 or so
on 20SSB.
-Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by "KL7RA" <kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov> on
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:51:44 -0800.
> -- CW and SSB count the same points and no additional multiplier for a second
> band mode QSO.
> This rule prevents any advantage for a team with equal skills in both
> modes.
> A team that can do both modes well should be rewarded but this rule says
> that a SSB team only can also compete. Is this what we want?
>From w5iz at yahoo.com Wed Jul 17 12:42:54 2002
From: w5iz@yahoo.com (Al Baker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
Message-ID: <20020717184254.10886.qmail@web13908.mail.yahoo.com>
Should be in P5. Great exposure to the potential P5
hams and give us all new band countries.
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>From hurl8957 at uidaho.edu Wed Jul 17 13:25:07 2002
From: hurl8957@uidaho.edu (Christopher Hurlbut)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC and IARU
Message-ID: <396620.1026933907814.JavaMail.cpadmin@pipeline.csrv.uidaho.edu>
I hope the next WRTC in 2006 is in a tropical place! Conditions are going to
be horrible I'm sure.
The northern latitudes seemed to luck out this year, as conditions were much
better than normal.
Of course the CW ops are going to do better... everyone knows CW is better than
Fone. :)
-Chris KL9A
http://www.kl7g.org/kl9a <--new IARU sound files
kl9a@qsl.net
>From kl7ra at blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov Thu Jul 18 01:29:24 2002
From: kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov (KL7RA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
>Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
>believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. ///snip
>-Mike N2MG
You're probably right Mike, but during the last few hours of the test
their SSB rates were around five a minute, 300 hour, or more and
I was having some difficulty cracking their ssb piles. The usual
thinking is to double the points for CW and the Finns decided not
to do this.
My thinking is a super ssb op would have some advantage over the
CW op simply because he could go faster, there are more ssb stations
on and more mults. When the rate falls due 100 watts/ low antenna, you
change bands.
The real answer is probably something like it doesn't matter because
no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the strategy at this
level of competition is simply run best rate for score. Having to balance
between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not necessary,
Rich KL7RA
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Wed Jul 17 18:27:56 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>; from
KL7RA on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 12:29:24AM -0800
References: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <20020717172756.S24221@cs.utexas.edu>
On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 12:29:24AM -0800, KL7RA wrote:
> >Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
> >believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. ///snip
>
> >-Mike N2MG
>
> You're probably right Mike, but during the last few hours of the test
> their SSB rates were around five a minute, 300 hour, or more and
> I was having some difficulty cracking their ssb piles. The usual
> thinking is to double the points for CW and the Finns decided not
> to do this.
Doubling the points for CW would be terrible. The WRTC stations
already make more CW QSOs than phone QSOs. Give them double points,
and they'd spend substantially less time on phone than they already do.
> My thinking is a super ssb op would have some advantage over the
> CW op simply because he could go faster, there are more ssb stations
> on and more mults. When the rate falls due 100 watts/ low antenna, you
> change bands.
The actual WRTC results haven't historically supported this hypothesis.
Even in 2000, when the scoring was specifically designed to make CW and
SSB QSOs equally important (by making one's CW or SSB score based upon
a percentage of the highest QSO total made on that mode) the WRTC
operators _still_ on average made more CW QSOs than phone QSOs.
--
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University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
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>From ah3c at frii.com Wed Jul 17 17:55:52 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
YU7BW (OJ2Q) had 254 QSO's on 20 SSB 1st hour!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gilmer, N2MG" <n2mg@eham.net>
To: "[Contest Reflector]" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
> Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
> believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. I only
> dabbled in the contest, but watching the spots and listening to the
> activity at my QTH, the OJ activity seemed far greater on CW than SSB.
> In fact, I worked all 52 OJ calls, 48 of them on 20CW, but only 6 or so
> on 20SSB.
>
> -Mike N2MG
>
> The following message was sent by "KL7RA" <kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov>
on Wed, 17 Jul 2002 20:51:44 -0800.
>
> > -- CW and SSB count the same points and no additional multiplier for a
second
> > band mode QSO.
> > This rule prevents any advantage for a team with equal skills in
both modes.
> > A team that can do both modes well should be rewarded but this rule says
> > that a SSB team only can also compete. Is this what we want?
>
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>From chris.blakely at verizon.net Wed Jul 17 21:26:10 2002
From: chris.blakely@verizon.net (Chris Blakely)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <003f01c22df1$b7cb08a0$3ad5fea9@christib>
Mike,Rich,
"The real answer is probably something like it doesn't matter because
> no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the strategy at this
> level of competition is simply run best rate for score. Having to balance
> between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not necessary,"
I may be wrong but is there not a CW pileup competition that figures as
part of the final score? There is an spreadsheet on the WRTC web site that
shows K5TJ & K1TO as being the highest scorers in the pileup competition. I
think that in the last WRTC this score was also part of the final standings,
so that a strictly ssb would suffer badly.
Chris, AB1R
----- Original Message -----
From: "KL7RA" <kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov>
To: "[Contest Reflector]" <cq-contest@contesting.com>; "Mike Gilmer, N2MG"
<n2mg@eham.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
> >Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low tribander, I have to
> >believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to compete. ///snip
>
> >-Mike N2MG
>
> You're probably right Mike, but during the last few hours of the test
> their SSB rates were around five a minute, 300 hour, or more and
> I was having some difficulty cracking their ssb piles. The usual
> thinking is to double the points for CW and the Finns decided not
> to do this.
>
> My thinking is a super ssb op would have some advantage over the
> CW op simply because he could go faster, there are more ssb stations
> on and more mults. When the rate falls due 100 watts/ low antenna, you
> change bands.
>
> The real answer is probably something like it doesn't matter because
> no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the strategy at this
> level of competition is simply run best rate for score. Having to balance
> between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not necessary,
>
> Rich KL7RA
>
>
>
>
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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>
>From k8khz at comcast.net Wed Jul 17 21:31:51 2002
From: k8khz@comcast.net (Sean D. Fleming)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB Vs. CW QSO's in a Contest
Message-ID: <000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
I am not the greatest CW copier at all. I even have to use CWget to copy cy at
speeds sent by contesting stations. But I look at like the subbmision of CW op
K9LA with like 3,100 CW QSo's made in 24 Hours. Then I wonder well can you make
SSB contacts faster than CW contacts and what is it I am lacking to make more
SSB contacts. Is it Filters? Is it Large Antennas? Is it just the lack of
fastness of talking. Put some input in. I need some elmering so that I can win
a contest at some time.
My Shack here is Wire and 100W with a TS-570D(G) But I have been to a station
with a 2el Quad and a 756 Pro. Results are still somewhat not the best yet.
Also Interested to know what do you use to send CW and copy it head or
computer. Tnx.
73's
Sean
K8KHZ
k8khz@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/k8khz
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>From n2mg at eham.net Wed Jul 17 22:28:10 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <00b801c22e35$3a3e48e0$02f446c0@snowfall.gcgo.nasa.gov>
<003f01c22df1$b7cb08a0$3ad5fea9@christib>
Message-ID: <002801c22dfa$62767700$3201a8c0@mikehome>
The website says:
"Summercamp PileUp contest for fun results (in Excel file)"
I think the "for fun" part says it all. ;-)
There was a SSB competition as well.
-Mike N2MG
AB1R wrote:
> I may be wrong but is there not a CW pileup competition that figures
as
> part of the final score?
>From n2nl at yahoo.com Wed Jul 17 20:02:24 2002
From: n2nl@yahoo.com (David Mueller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <003f01c22df1$b7cb08a0$3ad5fea9@christib>
Message-ID: <20020718020224.13845.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>
The pileup tapes were for fun only, and didn't
count toward the final score.
As SSB/CW goes, here's my experiences as OJ3R.
For us, QSOs counted the same for CW and SSB.
Europe was worth 1 QSO point, DX 2 points. On the
high bands, SSB rates generally were better, because
you could simply work them faster on phone. However,
most of these were Europe. We were able to work far
more DX (W's) using CW, and thus our QSO Point per
hour was actually higher using that mode when the
bands were open stateside. Also, we worked several
close in backscatter mults we never would have had the
chance to work using SSB.
On 40 and 80, trying to find a hole in the narrow
phone subband with our 100w was nearly impossible
amungst the loud HQ and other EU stations. On the
other hand, we were able to hold our own using CW and
get quite good rates. We only used SSB here to work
new multipliers.
After talking with the top 3 teams, I think they
generally followed the same strategy - they just did
it better than us.
I think that a SSB only team with weak CW skills
would be at a SERIOUS disadvantage at a WRTC with
similar scoring.
73, Dave N2NL
--- Chris Blakely <chris.blakely@verizon.net> wrote:
> Mike,Rich,
> "The real answer is probably something like it
> doesn't matter because
> > no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the
> strategy at this
> > level of competition is simply run best rate for
> score. Having to balance
> > between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not
> necessary,"
>
> I may be wrong but is there not a CW pileup
> competition that figures as
> part of the final score? There is an spreadsheet on
> the WRTC web site that
> shows K5TJ & K1TO as being the highest scorers in
> the pileup competition. I
> think that in the last WRTC this score was also part
> of the final standings,
> so that a strictly ssb would suffer badly.
>
> Chris, AB1R
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "KL7RA" <kl7ra@blizzard.gcgo.nasa.gov>
> To: "[Contest Reflector]"
> <cq-contest@contesting.com>; "Mike Gilmer, N2MG"
> <n2mg@eham.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
>
>
> > >Considering that the OJs ran 100W to a rather low
> tribander, I have to
> > >believe that it was difficult for a "SSB" team to
> compete. ///snip
> >
> > >-Mike N2MG
> >
> > You're probably right Mike, but during the last
> few hours of the test
> > their SSB rates were around five a minute, 300
> hour, or more and
> > I was having some difficulty cracking their ssb
> piles. The usual
> > thinking is to double the points for CW and the
> Finns decided not
> > to do this.
> >
> > My thinking is a super ssb op would have some
> advantage over the
> > CW op simply because he could go faster, there are
> more ssb stations
> > on and more mults. When the rate falls due 100
> watts/ low antenna, you
> > change bands.
> >
> > The real answer is probably something like it
> doesn't matter because
> > no one would send a ssb only team anyway and the
> strategy at this
> > level of competition is simply run best rate for
> score. Having to balance
> > between CW and SSB is a nuisance and not
> necessary,
> >
> > Rich KL7RA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >
>
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
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>From llindblom at juno.com Thu Jul 18 03:21:36 2002
From: llindblom@juno.com (Larry L Lindblom)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [TCG] NAQP RTTY TEAMS
Message-ID: <20020718.022137.-933939.2.LLindblom@juno.com>
NAQP RTTY is drawing near. It is not to late to sign up for a team.
So far the following people have signed on to play on a TCG team in NAQP
RTTY.
W4GKM
K4RO
W4BCG
N1NB
KE4OAR
N2WK
W5CTV
AI9T
VE9DX
W4OX
W4LC
NY1S
KB5BOB
NN4T
VA3WN
VP2EL
8P6SH
W0ETC
It is not to late to add your call to the mix. We welcome one and all no
matter your skill, intended activity level, or geographic location. The
main thing is we want everyone to enjoy the contest any and every way
they can.
Yes, I added my call to the list. My 775 and 756 might be dead but the
trust old TS930S after sitting on a shelf for five years still works in
AFSK mode. For me it will be a back to the basics contest with no
rig/computer interface and having to run SSB filters in AFSK mode. So if
you have been hesitant to join a team for lack of a good RTTY rig let
this be an example of how crazy some of us contesters can be.
Why not join us on a team and have some fun. E-mail me if you would
like to play with us. We'll organize as many teams as we can. As always
if your call is missing from the list please resend your e-mail as I
might of fat fingered it into the trash by mistake,
73 W0ETC LAR in IA
>From w7why at harborside.com Thu Jul 18 03:37:18 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB Vs. CW QSO's in a Contest
References: <000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <3D361BCE.44E5FE7B@harborside.com>
"Sean D. Fleming" wrote:
>Then I wonder well can you make SSB contacts faster than CW >contacts and what
>is it I am lacking to make more SSB contacts.
Hi Sean
I find I can work CW much faster than SSB, mainly because my
hearing is not what it used to be after working 35 years in a
very noisy environment. It is amazing to me how some ops can
pick a call out the first time, considering accents, etc. Most
of the time I have to listen for 2 or 3 transmissions to get a
callsign straight on SSB, but on CW, it's a different story.
Most of the time I just S&P in fone contests. I get tired of
saying "huh?" all the time if trying to run stations :-) 73
Tom W7WHY
>From geoiii at kkn.net Wed Jul 17 21:40:05 2002
From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III - K5TR)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB Vs. CW QSO's in a Contest
In-Reply-To: <000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>;
from Sean D. Fleming on Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 08:31:51PM -0400
References: <000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20020717204005.B23300@loja.kkn.net>
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 08:31:51PM -0400, Sean D. Fleming wrote:
> I am not the greatest CW copier at all. I even have to use CWget to
> copy cy at speeds sent by contesting stations. But I look at like
> the subbmision of CW op K9LA with like 3,100 CW QSo's made in 24
> Hours. Then I wonder well can you make SSB contacts faster than CW
> contacts and what is it I am lacking to make more SSB contacts. Is
> it Filters? Is it Large Antennas? Is it just the lack of fastness of
> talking. Put some input in.
All of those things help.
Normally - all things being equal you can make more
contacts per hour on SSB than you can on CW.
I could go on and on about what things can make a
diffrence but I think the thing you are asking is
"How can I make larger contest scores?"
It helps to have bigger antennas - moving from your
wire to a tribander or quad at 40-60 feet high
would make a big diffrence. Going from 100 watts to
500 or 1000 or 1500 will also help. The antenna will
help more because you will hear more people.
Operating alot of contests also helps - just as in most
things in life the more you practice them the better you get.
Getting on and operating alot will do you more good
than anything else - esp when you are first starting out.
Most of the contest greats did alot of contesting
with poor antennas and equuipment for countless years
before they won their first contest.
When I look at your contest scores here:
http://www.geocities.com/k8khz/contesting.html
I notice two things:
- You have not been doing this contesting thing too long.
- Your scores have improved alot from one year to the next.
(This is really good and what we all strive to do.)
Keep up the good work.
> Pro. Results are still somewhat not the best yet. Also Interested to
> know what do you use to send CW and copy it head or computer. Tnx.
As far as I know all the CW contest winners copy CW with their
head - it just takes practice. Some of us (me) have never really
worked on it hard enough and still can't do CW very well.
You email and my answer reminds me of one of my all time
favorite posts ever made to the CQ-Contest mailing list.
It was a post by N5KO.
In fact I liked it so much I have it saved in my /home directory.
Here it is - if you missed it the first time.
(KR0Y/5 is now N5TJ)
+++++++++ copy of post +++++++++
> If I were in your class, what would I appreciate about your
> ability or technique? Or in other words, what would another
> highly accomplished contester know about your skills that I
> miss because I'm just an awed "apprentice"?
>(If you're too modest to talk about yourself, apply the question
> to the your personal contesting "hero", the guy you vow to beat
> this year.)
In my view, this is one of the true dilemmas of radio contesting.
You, as the hypothetical "apprentice," do not have the knowledge or
experience to be able to appreciate the skills I have developed
that make me the hypothetical "major league contester."
And similarly, I take for granted many of the fundamental skills
that are necessary for you to advance to the next level.
I like to offer up two quotations that sum up my general
beliefs on the topic. The first is from someone in my peer
group, and second is from someone who I would categorize as
a personal contesting hero from my formative years in
contesting, although I doubt he actually knows this :-) ).
"With experience comes knowledge and cunning. I can't stand here
and tell you the secrets, as many of them are second nature to me
now."-KR0Y/5
"The best of the best gained their winning edge practicing the basics
over and over in numerous forgettable events, often using inadequte
radios and second-rate antennas. Discovering how to overcome such
obstacles are lessons never forgotten."-NCJ Profile of N6RO
And now for a bit of a digression:
I have observed many "second tier" (and others down through the
neophyte ranks of) contesters think that there is some set of
winning "tricks" that the "first tier" contesters use to beat them,
and if only someone would let them in on these terrific secrets,
they would be first rate contesters themselves.
These people are setting themselves up for disappointment, because
I'm going to let them in on the biggest secret of all:
"There are no secrets!"
It turns out, as with most things is life, that skill and hard
work pay the most reliable dividends in the long run.
Now for some specific advice. None of these things are mandatory to
win, but collectively they really add up:
o Know the code. 50 WPM conversational is a nice milestone
note: don't try this at home with pencil and paper.
o Know the bands. Nothing like knowing the right band
to be on to improve your score.
o Know your station. Knowing whether or not your station
has the gusto to run people or crack pileups under
given conditions on a given band is a real time saver.
o Stay in the chair. You can't be the loudest station on
the air if you are not on the air.
And now for some general advice:
o Operate a lot. Experience is king.
I learn something every time I operate.
o Solicit advice from a variety of experienced people.
Some of the "experts" will be more compatible with you
on a personal level than others, so shop around and get
a variety of points of view.
To wit, after I post this message, I will get a few notes from
various folks, about half of which will say "I really identified
with what you wrote. You're a genius!" and the other half of
which will say "You're a moron. Get stuffed!"
--Trey, N5KO, HC8N (QSL via AA5BT), WN4KKN/6
+++++++++++++ end of post +++++++++++++++++
--
George Fremin III - K5TR
geoiii@kkn.net
http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>From marc.wullaert3 at pandora.be Thu Jul 18 06:51:51 2002
From: marc.wullaert3@pandora.be (Marc Wullaert)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Vist to TEXAS-HOUSTON
Message-ID: <003d01c22e0e$7ace3770$0401a8c0@on4mamarc>
Hi,
Sorry for the bandwith,but the next two weeks I will
be near Houston Texas on holiday.Anyone I can meet
there in the second week.I have a car overthere.
73/dx
Marc ON4MA
>From swca at swbell.net Wed Jul 17 23:55:30 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <067001c22e0e$f6e13790$0100a8c0@TL01>
Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
Mark, N5OT
>From K9GY at K9GY.com Thu Jul 18 05:20:32 2002
From: K9GY@K9GY.com (Eric K9GY)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
Message-ID: <013201c22e12$ac7912a0$564d180a@9byjx01>
I for one would like to see some continental differences utilized in the next
WRTC.
It appears that EU and US WRTC geographical coverage has been accomplished.
Given that how about Asia or South America?
Maybe China or Asiatic Russia...Argentina or Brazil...
We can "mix it up" by having it in AS or SA?
Although I think it will be a disappointment to have the next WRTC during the
solar minimum
unless the standard setup is going to include nice low band antennas :-)
N5TJ & K1TO could then capture the WRTC Won-All-Continents!
CQ Contest!
>From n0ss at earthlink.net Thu Jul 18 00:30:19 2002
From: n0ss@earthlink.net (Tom Hammond =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=D8SS?=)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [TRLog] Various IARU issues
In-Reply-To: <002e01c22e0e$d071e460$0700000a@slc.teltronics.com>
References: <4.3.2.7.0.20020718005347.003851d0@pop.pacific.net.hk>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020717232535.00b305f0@mail.earthlink.net>
Tom:
>I feel like people are laughing at me when I call QRZ to check for the
>frequency in use before I start a run frequency. Sort of like a scarlett Q
>on my signal Hi Hi.
QRZ? ("who is calling me?") isn't the appropriate Q-signal. QRL? ("Is the
frequency occupied") is more appropriate.
In the heat of a contest, it is sometimes difficult to remember to "QRL"
each time you think you've found a clear freq, I must admit. I try, but
often find myself forgetting, and being chastized for it a bit later...
usually following (or more often DURING) the first CQ. The nice thing is
QSK, so you can hear other activity WHILE you're sending. Thus you can stop
sending as soon as you realize there is traffic on the freq.
In many cases, if I hear a station beginning to CW on the freq. I'm
operating on, I can generally send a couple DAHs, he'll hear me thru his
CQing and stop sending or move.
73,
Tom Hammond N0SS
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Jul 18 01:44:08 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] re CW - dear naysayers - we have proof it works better :-)
Message-ID: <041d01c22e15$c0c01580$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
as a low power mobile in the Florida QSO Party I must say it is far more fun to
run stations on CW than to get bits and pieces of and exchange on SSB....the
operator is indeed more of a factor on CW!
BUT this is WRTC which tests all contest skills including maybe knowing when
conditions are good enough to make SSB a viable option...
Ken says:
The actual WRTC results haven't historically supported this hypothesis.
Even in 2000, when the scoring was specifically designed to make CW and
SSB QSOs equally important (by making one's CW or SSB score based upon
a percentage of the highest QSO total made on that mode) the WRTC
operators _still_ on average made more CW QSOs than phone QSOs.
Probably because it was easier - and hence more productive!
In a low power environment nobody can argue successfully with me that CW isn't
a better node!
This is not because I am a code guy - it is because I know what works in
marginal conditions - anybody can run and be king for a limited amount of any
contest - when the worked is not our oyster (which is the bulk of the contest)
is when we see the beauty of CW - even with marginal copy both ends you can
make it happen, those in the know and any top ten finisher in a CW contest will
tell you he won not by those phenomenal peak Euro hours but the fact that he
had a lot of "average" hours where he was successful at running the "pw"
stations.
When you get great CW ops you get some big numbers...at the low part of the
cycle the score will close (SSB vs. CW) because those that are making QSOs
magically happen under strained conditions are doing it on SSB!
We can talk faster with our mouths than our fingers on the whole...but we hear
CW better and that sir is the most important factor in Dxing or Contesting -
you can;t work em if ya can't copy em!
>From Tropical Florida - hoo wee its hot - tomorrow may break some records!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
knowing when prop is good enough
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>From jpe at UWasa.Fi Thu Jul 18 09:58:47 2002
From: jpe@UWasa.Fi (Jari Perkiömäki)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OI2HQ Lapua photos online
Message-ID: <200207180558.IAA06967@loisto.uwasa.fi>
Hello,
a photo gallery of the SRAL HQ station OI2HQ in Lapua (15 m CW)
is now available for viewing at
http://www.uwasa.fi/~jpe/lapua/gallery/
73 de Jari OH6BG
oh6bg@sral.fi
>From samir at totem.se Thu Jul 18 11:27:03 2002
From: samir@totem.se (Samir SP. Popaja)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W6PU article from CQ Magazine
Message-ID: <D68700EE85B31E4290D0AA4AA87726179FBF@RONJA.totem.net>
Hello,
Does someone have a copy of article
published by W6PU, 4 el. dual-driven quad.
I'm interesting in building it.
Thanks.
Samir, SM7VZX
SM7VZX, ex. SM7/T94BO, SM7/4N4BO, 4N4BO, YU4BO, 4N4A
Samir Popaja, SM7VZX
Lettlandsgatan 2B
SE-214 31 Malm?
Sweden
>From n2nl at yahoo.com Thu Jul 18 06:48:05 2002
From: n2nl@yahoo.com (David Mueller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
In-Reply-To: <013201c22e12$ac7912a0$564d180a@9byjx01>
Message-ID: <20020718124805.5514.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>
China and Brazil were both on the rumor list for the
next one. Most people are thinking it will be in
Brazil....
73, Dave
--- Eric K9GY <K9GY@K9GY.com> wrote:
> I for one would like to see some continental
> differences utilized in the next WRTC.
> It appears that EU and US WRTC geographical coverage
> has been accomplished.
>
> Given that how about Asia or South America?
> Maybe China or Asiatic Russia...Argentina or
> Brazil...
> We can "mix it up" by having it in AS or SA?
>
> Although I think it will be a disappointment to have
> the next WRTC during the solar minimum
> unless the standard setup is going to include nice
> low band antennas :-)
>
> N5TJ & K1TO could then capture the WRTC
> Won-All-Continents!
>
> CQ Contest!
>
>
>
>
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>
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>From n2mg at eham.net Thu Jul 18 11:00:09 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Secrets, etc...
Message-ID: <200207181300.g6ID085r018372@contesting.com>
There was a lot of traffic on the reflector in Feb 1996 along these
lines. Take a look at the CQ-Contest archives where N5KO's previously
quoted post was made originally.
http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/1996-February/
Look for threads entitled "secrets", "What REALLY makes you good",
and maybe a few others.
Mike N2MG
>From ha5pp at yahoo.com Thu Jul 18 07:27:27 2002
From: ha5pp@yahoo.com (Zoltan Szoke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC2002 in Finland, WRTC 2004 in ...
Message-ID: <20020718132727.17748.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi Contesters,
First of all CONGRATS TO ALL for the super WRTC 2002
in Finland!
I enjoyed the OJs (K4OJ too, hi) fantastic operation
very much.
One thing is sure with WRTC2004: the winners will be
N5TJ/K1TO. :)))))
73
Zoli
HA5PP
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Thu Jul 18 14:35:04 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW works better!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020718123504.00721748@pop.vnet.net>
K4OJ:
>In a low power environment nobody can argue successfully with me that CW
isn't a better node!
This is also true on the low bands. Proof - compare alltime
SOSB records for CW vs SSB on 160-40 in the CQ WW records here:
http://www.cqww.com/intro.htm
CW and SSB weekends use identical rules and are held at similar times of
year, and CW scores vastly exceed SSB scores in most categories. Here
are 160M comparisons used in our RM-10352 Petition for mode segmentation.
Source: http://members.aol.com/k3bu/W160Records.htm
Average all-time CQ 160 Contest record scores, CW versus SSB:
Area/Category: % CW score exceeds SSB
Africa +585
Asia +44
Europe +123
North America +68
USA +30
Oceania +57
South America +212
Multi-operator +31
Low Power (<100W) +63
QRP (<5W) +98
AVERAGE MARGIN: +128%
Source: http://members.aol.com/k3bu/WWRecords.htm
Average all-time CQ WW record scores (SOSB160), CW versus SSB:
Area/Category: % CW score exceeds SSB
Africa -67
Asia +2
Europe +133
N. America +65
Oceania +52
S. America +152
USA +157
AVERAGE MARGIN: +71%
In the extreme conditions on the low bands, CW rules!
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n2mg at eham.net Thu Jul 18 12:14:41 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] For those who like to search the Archives...
Message-ID: <200207181414.g6IEEe5r019397@contesting.com>
I recently ran several searches of the archives on contesting.com.
(For those who don't know where to do this, go to the "List Search" in
the left menu area of http://www.contesting.com)
Unfortunately, that search tool searches ALL the active reflectors on
contesting.com at once (amps, towertalk, cq-contest, etc.) and one
cannot choose to search only, say, "cq-contest". It has been pointed
out that one could add the specific reflector's name to the search
criteria if one wishes to limit the hits to that reflector. This is a
good idea and effective.
However, there seems to be a "gotcha" in that method, for when one
wishes to search, say, cq-contest, and places "cq-contest" in the
search criteria, one will probably not get any hits before March 1997.
This is because the cq-contest archives appeared to change form around
that time - back then the archive pages for each post did not
necessarily have the term "cq-contest" on them anywhere (the new archives have
it in the reflector's navigation links). Delete the
reference to "cq-contest" in the search criteria and posts from back
that far begin appearing in the hit list. But then, of course, so do
posts from all the other reflectors.
73 Mike N2MG
>From swca at swbell.net Thu Jul 18 10:24:09 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why IARU?
References: <191.9fbca00.2a681284@aol.com>
Message-ID: <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
I got a reply to my question "why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the
IARU Radiosport?" which informed me it was important for the WRTC to be held
during a contest in order to keep participation up. Duh (with respect),
that's not what I meant.
I admit it might not have been clear, but my question was not "why does it
need to be wedded to a contest," but why, specifically, the *IARU*?
The IARU Radiosport is certainly not the contest with the greatest
participation.
I was wondering why it couldn't, for instance, be done over 24 hours in the
CQWW or perhaps some other contest-du-jour. Mode issues? Does it really
come down to this?
Certainly it changes enough each time even within the IARU that there is not
really a case for consistency. Is there?
But seriously, the IARU has some liabilities for WRTC as far as I can tell.
Ultimately I would think this event would benefit from consistency, i.e. an
identical event each time, but is this even possible?
Is the WRTC Committee that was formed long ago still at work?
Is the WRTC evolving into such a fantastic, legitimate event that it could
justify its own event? Is this so huge that it could justify retiring
another event to keep the calendar reasonable? Would the I-A-R-Union
themselves consider allowing the Radiosport to get moved out of July and be
re-designed to center on the WRTC? Should the I-A-R-Union actually globally
administrate the WRTC? Should regional qualifying events be held during
this contest in non-WRTC years? Should there be separate CW WRTCs and Phone
WRTCs?
Just wondering.
Mark, N5OT
>From geoiii at kkn.net Thu Jul 18 09:03:46 2002
From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III - K5TR)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW works better!
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020718123504.00721748@pop.vnet.net>; from Bill Tippett
on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 01:35:04PM +0100
References: <1.5.4.32.20020718123504.00721748@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <20020718080346.B28645@loja.kkn.net>
On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 01:35:04PM +0100, Bill Tippett wrote:
> K4OJ:
> >In a low power environment nobody can argue successfully with me that CW
> isn't a better node!
>
> This is also true on the low bands. Proof - compare alltime
> SOSB records for CW vs SSB on 160-40 in the CQ WW records here:
While I will not dispute that CW does better in getting
through the noise on these bands - I think that more of the
score diffrences can be attributed to these problems:
- Lack of ssb frequency alignment on the low bands.
This forces the use of split frequency operation.
- Very limited frequency ranges in some countries.
There is not very much bandwidth to jam the
SSB signals into.
>
> http://www.cqww.com/intro.htm
>
> CW and SSB weekends use identical rules and are held at similar times of
> year, and CW scores vastly exceed SSB scores in most categories. Here
> are 160M comparisons used in our RM-10352 Petition for mode segmentation.
>
160m is the worst for all of the above reasons.
>
> Average all-time CQ WW record scores (SOSB160), CW versus SSB:
>
> Area/Category: % CW score exceeds SSB
> Africa -67
> Asia +2
> Europe +133
> N. America +65
> Oceania +52
> S. America +152
> USA +157
>
> AVERAGE MARGIN: +71%
>
> In the extreme conditions on the low bands, CW rules!
Ditto.
Dont you think the 160 scores might have more to do
with limited band allocations and in some cases no
band allocations on 160 than they
have to do with other factors?
How do QSO totals in the 160m SSB contest compair to the
QSO totals in the CQ 160 CW contest?
(I dont know.)
--
George Fremin III - K5TR
geoiii@kkn.net
http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>From wk6i at twistedoak.com Thu Jul 18 09:13:29 2002
From: wk6i@twistedoak.com (Jeff Stai WK6I)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why IARU?
In-Reply-To: <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
References: <191.9fbca00.2a681284@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020718080740.037e2e50@mail.megapathdsl.net>
At 07:24 AM 7/18/2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
>I admit it might not have been clear, but my question was not "why does it
>need to be wedded to a contest," but why, specifically, the *IARU*?
>
>The IARU Radiosport is certainly not the contest with the greatest
>participation.
Two reactions:
1. Why make it so easy for WRTC to find stations? (I have no personal
knowledge to back this up, but I expect fishing contests do not take place
in a heavily stocked lake...;-)
2. There was plenty of participation this year - I played S&P this year and
never lacked for stations to work (until nightfall, when my inadequate low
band antennas let me down). I'll note that the 'dual mode' nature of IARU
effectively 'doubles' the bands available to play in....
73! - jeff wk6i
Jeff Stai Twisted Oak Winery LLC
Email jds@twistedoak.com
Amateur Radio WK6I
ROC Web Page http://www.rocstock.org/
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Thu Jul 18 11:17:32 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why IARU?
In-Reply-To: <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>; from Mark Beckwith on Thu,
Jul 18, 2002 at 09:24:09AM -0500
References: <191.9fbca00.2a681284@aol.com> <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Message-ID: <20020718101732.E1289@cs.utexas.edu>
On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:24:09AM -0500, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> I was wondering why it couldn't, for instance, be done over 24 hours in the
> CQWW or perhaps some other contest-du-jour. Mode issues? Does it really
> come down to this?
Yes, but it is more than that.
One of the wonderful things about the IARU is that it is (a) not a single
band contest, which forces the teams to think about band changes, and (b)
it is both a CW and SSB contest, which makes it important that a team
excel at both modes. The IARU is by far the largest and most active contest
that meets these two requirements.
Another advantage to IARU is that it is a big contest without being _the_
big contest. A lot of the top contest ops like to be DX during the CQWW,
for instance, and asking the top contesters to give that up for WRTC might
not work. Asking them to plan on taking their summer vacation in the
European countryside or Rio De Janeiro or the beaches of Florida makes the
competition more attractive for the top competitors and judges to attend.
--
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University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From kg2au at stny.rr.com Thu Jul 18 12:31:37 2002
From: kg2au@stny.rr.com (Jimmy Weierich)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] SSB Vs. CW QSO's in a Contest
In-Reply-To: <20020717204005.B23300@loja.kkn.net>
References:
<000e01c22df2$82ce7820$f1992944@Fleming.madsnh01.mi.comcast.net>
<20020717204005.B23300@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <a05100300b95c883eb08e@[66.24.254.199]>
>On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 08:31:51PM -0400, Sean D. Fleming wrote:
>
>> I am not the greatest CW copier at all. I even have to use CWget to
>> copy cy at speeds sent by contesting stations. But I look at like
>> the subbmision of CW op K9LA with like 3,100 CW QSo's made in 24
>> Hours. Then I wonder well can you make SSB contacts faster than CW
>> contacts and what is it I am lacking to make more SSB contacts. Is
>> it Filters? Is it Large Antennas? Is it just the lack of fastness of
> > talking. Put some input in.
The scores posted on you're website remind me of my first two years
of contesting, 1995-6. I've made some progress since then, but still
have a long way to go.
As George (K5TR) said, a tribander will make more difference than you
would ever believe.
However, as George also says, the thing that will improve your scores
most is dirt cheap, at least in dollar cost, - hard work and practice!
Listed below is a post that inspired me to improve my skills when I
was at about the stage you are at and beginning to get discouraged of
ever improving. This post was aimed at some posters who were whining,
but also applies to anyone who wants to improve their contesting
skills. Thanks again Rob!
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From: rhummel@monad.net (Rob Hummel)
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX whining vs winning
Sender: owner-cq-contest@contesting.com
Precedence: bulk
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I've read with interest and horror some of the opinions and statements that
have been put forth on the topic of the WPX and contests in general, how
they're scored, and how they're unfair.
I'm very concerned that new or prospective contesters will read this and get
the impression that the winners got what they got because they're privileged
somehow. That winners are, in essence, cheaters. Because if the winners
weren't cheating, they couldn't have beat all those virtuous losers. That,
in fact, any activity where someone loses is -- by definition -- unfair.
Contesting is competition -- plain and simple. There are no second-place
winners. The term for those who don't win is "loser." There is no shame in
losing. I have been a loser many times. Winning feels good, but losing
educates you. Ask my 6-year old daughter what being a loser means and she'll
tell you without hesitation: it means you have to try harder. No one ever
won a contest by whining.
If you want to be competitive, you must do everything within your power (and
the rules) to maximize your advantages and minimize your disadvantages.
Complaining that a contest is unfair accomplishes nothing except to brand
you as a bitter, dissatisfied, jaded, jealous naysayer.
Ignore advice or whining from folks who don't even participate in the
contest. What can they possibly tell you except how to be a bitter loser? If
you want to win, associate around winners.
If you want to be competitive, you must be positive. Here are some suggestions.
1. Aquire as much knowledge as possible about the contest.
First, learn the rules of the contest. That means knowing the exchange and
the scoring. It also means understanding what strategy you should use to
maximize your score. Figure out how long should you chase a multiplier and
how many Qs do you need to be competitive.
Figure out if a mult or a 3-point qso is more valuable to you toward the end
of the contest. Calculate how many mults you will need to be competitive.
2. Decide where to point your antenna and when.
You must understand how propagation affects your area. Read the propagation
forecasts and make sure you understand them. Know where your greyline goes.
Know when 40m opens and 20m closes. Keep an extra antenna and radio tuned to
popular 10m frequencies (you know them because you researched, right?) to
check for band openings.
3. Study the local competition.
Study the scores, mults, and prefixes worked by those in your area. Call
them or write them and find out their strategies. (Of course, they may not
want to tell you!) Ask for copies of their logs. Study where they pointed
their antennas and when. Find out what bands they favored and why.
Anyone who beats you is in a position to teach you something. Instead of
reviling them, study them. Don't forget the other end of the spectrum. Some
of the most valuable lessons I've learned have come from low-power stations
with wire antennas.
4. Know the field.
Study the contest results from the past 2-3 years. You must know the calls
that were active. You must know if any special DX stations be on. You should
know who you'll be listening for.
You must know the frequencies that JAs can use on 80m. You should know the
40m allocation world-wide. You should know where VKs will be on the low
bands. Instead of figuring out why the contest is unfair, learn how to work it.
5. Improve your station.
Learn the truth about feedline matching, antenna loss, VSWR, directivity,
and gain. That means read and study. That means experiment. That means cut
and try.
Shrug off the myths embraced by the mediocre. Don't listen to people who
tell you that 2:1 SWR is good enough because all the power goes somewhere
eventually. Or that 9913 is lossless at HF. Or that a 1 dB difference in a
signal is unnoticable at either end. Or that connector loss is negligable.
All those statements are lies. Find out why.
Work on your antennas. Nothing is perfect or stays that way. Put up new
antennas. Try wires. Try loops. Try beverages. Try low-noise receive
antennas. Try slopers. Try, try, try. All these antennas are relatively
low-cost.
6. Learn your radio.
All (well, most) of those knobs on your radio have a purpose. Find out what
they do. Read and study the manual. Do you know where the manual is?
If you can quickly set a split frequency, you might be the first to work a
new station of 40m. If you learn how to use those 100+ memories efficiently,
you can stack up big stations and throw your call in rapidly to 2, 5, or
more stations simultaneously.
Get all your filters in place. Get a voice keyer. Learn your DSP. Get a
better mike. Tweak the audio until it sounds crystal clear and with all the
punch of a buzz saw cutting through aluminum. Remember that setting for the
contest, then turn it back to mushy so the boys on 80m don't complain.
7. WORK the contest.
If you're going to work a contest, then, by God, WORK IT. A 48-hour contest
runs for 48 hours. If you want to be competitive, you will run for 48 hours
too. Hey, if you can't, then you can't. But then don't whine about not winning.
The single biggest weapon that a small pistol has is persistance. I've heard
lectures from big guns where they advocate switching bands when your QSO
rate drops below 60/hour. That's okay for a big gun, but here are some
suprising statistics:
* At a rate of 60 Qs/hour, you would work 2,880 stations in a 48-hour contest.
* At 30/hour, you'd work 1,440 stations in a 48-hour contest.
* Even a rate of 15/hour (only one QSO every 4 minutes!), you'd still work
720 stations in 48 hours!
How many Qs did you work in the last contest? I've WON contests where I
didn't make 720 total Qs.
Cherry pickers don't win. If you give up when the time between Qs stretches
out to 4, 6, 10, or more minutes, you give up your competitiveness. A
contesters mettle is measured in the dead of night when calling CQ endlessly
on a seemingly dead band or when tuning 20m or 40m or any other band
straining to pull that next new station out of the noise. (Hint: This is
where 1 dB or less makes all the difference in the world.)
8. Have fun.
Winning is fun. But so is competiting. It's great fun being a part of an
overall event that's larger than some petty self-centered concern about
whether your QTH is "unfairly disadvantaged." If you want to have fun in a
contest, find people who are having fun and do what they're doing. Don't be
poisoned by the facile argument that a contest where everyone isn't a winner
is unfair and unfair is no fun.
Everything is fun if it involves amateur radio.
* I love working SSB, CW, and RTTY contests -- although my skill in each
mode varies widely.
* I love domestic contests. I don't like the spate of non-SASE cards they
generate, but I answer every one -- I will NOT be responsible for
discouraging a ham for a few bucks.
* I love DX contests. Every time I hear GW4BLE or ON4UN or EA7USA it's the
same thrill.
* Everytime someone remembers my call I light up like a little kid. Gosh,
they remember me!
* I love working the all-Bulgaria QSO party and being the only USA entry --
winning with 4 QSOs!
* I highlight my name in every contest result that published. What a thrill!
Any contest I miss I consider a failure. Every contest I make is a victory.
[Conclusion]
If you like contests or think you might, understand that there are hundreds
and thousands of like-minded souls out there who want you to be the best you
can be. We'll help, encourage, and congratulate you for every QSO you make
and every log you submit. Every DX station is looking for you. Every QSL you
get is a thank you.
Ignore the bitter, the miserable, and the perpetually dissatisifed. They're
not your compeitition; they're QRM.
Rob Hummel (WS1A) <rhummel@monad.net>
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Jimmy Weierich, K2LV, ex KG2AU <kg2au@stny.rr.com>
Vestal, NY USA FN12xa
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Thu Jul 18 12:29:43 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why IARU?
References: <191.9fbca00.2a681284@aol.com> <072e01c22e66$ca6936b0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Message-ID: <3D36DEE7.9ADDD05F@gte.net>
Mark Beckwith wrote:
> I admit it might not have been clear, but my question was not "why
> does it need to be wedded to a contest," but why, specifically, the
> *IARU*?
A couple thoughts come to mind ...
Contest that allows "mixed mode" - what the WRTC teams will need to
maximize their score.
24 hours - means teams will need to know propagation and what bands to
be on when. They won't get a second chance the next day.
Scoring - we're chasing zones, so not many DXpeditions activating rare
"country multipliers" to distract from the WRTC competitors.
Weather - at least in the Northern Hemisphere (where all previous WRTC's
have been held), it's summertime, which usually means nice weather for
building 52 stations and other "festivities" associated with WRTC.
> Certainly it changes enough each time even within the IARU that there
> is not really a case for consistency. Is there?
>
> But seriously, the IARU has some liabilities for WRTC as far as I can
> tell.
Like what?
> Ultimately I would think this event would benefit from consistency,
> i.e. an identical event each time, but is this even possible?
IARU is consistent ... just like any other contest. And like every
other contest, it varies from year to year, day to day, and from hour to
hour. That's what makes them fun ... one never knows what to expect ...
the better ops adapt to what they are given.
> Is the WRTC evolving into such a fantastic, legitimate event that
> it could justify its own event? Is this so huge that it could
> justify retiring another event to keep the calendar reasonable?
> Would the I-A-R-Union themselves consider allowing the Radiosport to
> get moved out of July and be re-designed to center on the WRTC?
Why? The activity levels are such, that WRTC can fit within IARU. Why
a "new" event with new rules? We'd all work the 52 teams and then go
QRT? That's no fun.
> Should regional qualifying events be held during this contest in
> non-WRTC years?
In other WRTC's, past contest scores were used to select participants,
so every contest is basically a qualifying event!
> Should there be separate CW WRTCs and Phone WRTCs?
No ... a "mixed mode" competition allows the best overall operators to
duke it out ... not just the best CW or SSB ops. If you want to win,
you have to be good in both modes.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"! Yeah, you can tweak it from WRTC to
WRTC, but it's been successful so far since the 1990 running ... why
mess with it?
Ron, WD4AHZ
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Thu Jul 18 17:17:27 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
<001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <3D36EA17.1C9C49EC@directvinternet.com>
"Peter Grillo, Sr." wrote:
>
> YU7BW (OJ2Q) had 254 QSO's on 20 SSB 1st hour!
Well, perhaps one more story. In the late 80s, I and several others
operated the
CQWWSSB from V47. Now, to show the rediculous, we arranged for a top
JA ( think his
name was Yosi ) to be part of our team. Flew him over here at our
expense, ect. Although he did operate other bands, his primary use was
when openings to JA occured in late afternoon. His rate was absolutely
fantastic, over 400+ per hour, and of course, in Japanese.
So that may well be a consideration the next time a team is put
together. Believe me, he had his buddies at home lined up like ducks
in a shooting gallary. No doubt, the discipline of the JAs was also a
factor.
And yes, we did win.
73
ed, k4sb
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Thu Jul 18 13:32:05 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] why pic IARU Radiosport to marry WRTC?
References: <200207181544.g6IFiQ5r020981@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <00a601c22e78$a9d72e40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Re: Why IARU?
Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
Mark, N5OT
My take:
Summary - It is perfect fit - othwer than n0t being at the best time of year
for radio propagation!
Why:
...the event has to take place in the context of another contest - why upset
the two biggees - CQWW and ARRL - they are the Kings
...the event has to be during a contest which allows both phone and cw
operating to be showcased - need I say more
...W's need to be able to work W's and DL's need to be able to work DL's -
when susnspot conditions are low and you have marginalized DXing you still
need rate!
.......is there another bi-modal worldwide event that is on all the HF bands
that will work?
Don't think so!
What do you propose Mark???????????????
Jim, K4OJ
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Thu Jul 18 17:40:16 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW works better!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020718154016.0073befc@pop.vnet.net>
Hi George!
K5TR wrote:
>While I will not dispute that CW does better in getting
through the noise on these bands - I think that more of the
score diffrences can be attributed to these problems:
1 - Lack of ssb frequency alignment on the low bands.
This forces the use of split frequency operation.
2 - Very limited frequency ranges in some countries.
There is not very much bandwidth to jam the
SSB signals into.
1. 40 and 80 must operate split between Region 2 and
Regions 1 & 3 for the most part...but that has not been the case
for 160 which has identical favorable results for CW as on
the other two bands. Of course, I maintain SSB scores on 160
will actually go up if we segment and DX operates split. The
simple reason is that DX will not be buried underneath extremely
strong local US stations continuously CQ-ing on top of them.
2. Part of the problem with SSB is that it is a
bandwidth hog. When you try to crowd an equivalent number
of contesters into the same low band frequencies, the narrow
bandwidth mode will always win. The inverse of this is 10-20
meters where SSB usually wins. On 10 meters, with effectively
no bandwidth limit on either mode, SSB wins by about 50% (my CQ
WW SSB record is 1.464M versus my CW record of 0.965M).
>Dont you think the 160 scores might have more to do
with limited band allocations and in some cases no
band allocations on 160 than they
have to do with other factors?
Not at all. It has more to do with the fact that a
narrow bandwidth mode allows better copy of weak signals
because the narrower bandwidth allows better rejection of
interference, noise, etc. This is the same reason that digital
modes work well in extracting signals from noise. Programs
like WSJT, QRSS/Spectrascan, etc effectively make EXTREMELY narrow
bandwidths using DSP that allow copy even below the noise floor
(of course I personally do not think a computer-to-computer
WSJT or QRSS "QSO" means much but that's another topic!)
>How do QSO totals in the 160m SSB contest compair to the
QSO totals in the CQ 160 CW contest?
(I dont know.)
In general, SSB QSO totals are higher in the CQ 160 SSB,
especially so for stations in the middle of the US, which can be
seen here (CW contintental and USA records listed before SSB on
the same page):
http://members.aol.com/k3bu/W160Records.htm
However, CQ 160 CW SCORES are higher because CW works better for
weak-signal DX resulting in higher multipliers and points/QSO.
BTW, total participation in the CQ 160 SSB and CW is almost
identical, so the difference cannot be explained by activity
levels. In the CQ WW, 160 CW QSO totals are generally higher than
SSB because that contest tends to be more DX to DX (favoring CW's
superiority in working weak DX signals) compared to the CQ 160
which is more weighted to local QSO's (at least in the USA).
73, Bill W4ZV
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Thu Jul 18 15:35:49 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
<001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
<3D36EA17.1C9C49EC@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <3D370A85.3D5A1FBE@gte.net>
K4SB wrote:
> So that may well be a consideration the next time a team is put
> together. Believe me, he had his buddies at home lined up like ducks
> in a shooting gallary.
Which is why this is against WRTC rules!
5. Language
Only English language and common international abbreviations can be
used - both on SSB and CW.
8. Soliciting QSOs
... The operators are not allowed to identify, who they personally
are or which team they are.
Someone speaking Japanese, Russian, etc., would pretty much identify
who the teams are.
Ron
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 18 12:48:44 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Georgia QSO Party This Weekend
Message-ID: <20020718184844.39328.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
Hello Fellow Contesters,
If you had fun chasing OJ's around in IARU last weekend you can have
just as much fun this weekend chasing rovers (and working fixed
stations) in the 159 counties of Georgia. The South East Contest Club
and the Southeastern DX Club invite you to participate in the 2002
version of the Georgia QSO party.
There are two operating periods. 1800Z July 20 - 0359Z July 21 and
1400Z July 21 - 2359Z July 21. 20 hours total. All stations may
operate the full 20 hours. There is an impressive array of plaques that
can be had for alittle bit of work on your part.
Please see the GQP webpage at http://gqp.contesting.com for
the complete rules , list of awards, and downloads for your favorite
logging program. Hope to hear you on and as K4OJ would say "Only 2 more
days until the GQP !"
73's Jeff KU8E
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>From john.devoldere at pandora.be Thu Jul 18 20:03:18 2002
From: john.devoldere@pandora.be (john devoldere, ON4UN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
References: <20020718124805.5514.qmail@web21409.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005501c22e8d$c7b7e7a0$6201a8c0@RUN1>
... as well as Germany and A61.
John, ON4UN
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Mueller" <n2nl@yahoo.com>
To: "Eric K9GY" <K9GY@K9GY.com>; "Contest Reflector"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Next WRTC
> China and Brazil were both on the rumor list for the
> next one. Most people are thinking it will be in
> Brazil....
>
> 73, Dave
>
> --- Eric K9GY <K9GY@K9GY.com> wrote:
> > I for one would like to see some continental
> > differences utilized in the next WRTC.
> > It appears that EU and US WRTC geographical coverage
> > has been accomplished.
> >
> > Given that how about Asia or South America?
> > Maybe China or Asiatic Russia...Argentina or
> > Brazil...
> > We can "mix it up" by having it in AS or SA?
> >
> > Although I think it will be a disappointment to have
> > the next WRTC during the solar minimum
> > unless the standard setup is going to include nice
> > low band antennas :-)
> >
> > N5TJ & K1TO could then capture the WRTC
> > Won-All-Continents!
> >
> > CQ Contest!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Thu Jul 18 16:39:07 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] speaking of parts prices...
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020718153646.00a5f9a0@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
What's with Heil? They used to have a good reputation for providing small
parts reasonably, but I recently bought a boom clip and a pair of earpads
for a BM-10 from them. The charge was $5.00 for each item, plus $3.00 S&H,
and they arrived USPS in a box with 60 cents postage on it. Yes, I know
about the cost of handling small orders, but I think these prices have it
built in several times over...
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From swca at swbell.net Thu Jul 18 16:26:43 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] World Champion
References: <200207181544.g6IFiQ5r020981@contesting.com>
<00a601c22e78$a9d72e40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <093001c22e99$70df1fa0$0100a8c0@TL01>
I have gotten maybe 2x the number of comments direct to me that have been
aired on cq-contest. I am beginning to see some basic stuff emerge from the
replies.
Everyone agrees (except me, I guess) that the WRTC event must meet these
criteria:
1. It must be an international event
2. It must be on both modes
3. It shouldn't be during an established MAJOR event i.e. CQWW or ARRL
One respondent also pointed out that July basically ensures a good turnout.
I'll buy that. I guess. In the Northern Hemisphere, at least.
Okay, so the IARU fits all these qualifications, but has the glaring
shortcoming of crappy conditions on the low bands.
>What do you propose Mark?
Gosh, now that you ask:
I think the concept of on-site competition for contesting's best should be
substantially more popular. If this were the case, perhaps holding it
during each mode of the CQWW would not be "a pesky annoyance," as many seem
to feel it would be, but - get this - "an honor."
I agree that at the moment this is not practical. However, I know plenty of
guys who already go away (i.e. to foriegn countries at great expense) for
both weekends of the CQWW and have for many years. In fact, many of them
happened to be in Finland last weekend. I think it's all a matter of the
quality of the event, the reputation, and the value of the results. And,
for that matter, the budget. WRTC is a great event, and the Finns took it
to new heights, but it is not "there yet."
One day the value of "world champion" might be more valuable than "winner of
the CQ worldwide." It's not yet.
Oh, and personally, I think it would be better if it were for CW single
operators, but that's just my selfish opinion - I'll take whatever I can
get and WRTC is a huge step in the right direction.
So that's what I am thinking. I'll shut up now for a few more years until
the sunspots come back.
Mark, N5OT
>From swca at swbell.net Thu Jul 18 16:35:06 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Unclear English alert continues
References: <000001c22e63$1c5b2310$6807a8c0@ac7nj>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020718135644.05716c40@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <093c01c22e9a$9c137f80$0100a8c0@TL01>
On this very reflector not an hour ago:
>75-ohm 3/4" CATV hardline...can often be bought for free.
Can you make change for a $0.00?
:)
>From juha.valimaki at lut.fi Fri Jul 19 00:23:53 2002
From: juha.valimaki@lut.fi (Juha Valimaki)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] C5- The Gambia ops needed Cq ww cw 2002
Message-ID: <1027023833.3d3723d9ea6e2@fela.cc.lut.fi>
C53M operators needed cq ww cw 2002
I am looking for more operators to join OH-based team operating from Gambia
(C5) in Cq ww cw 2002. Operating class at the moment seems to be M/S. This is a
suitcase style operation but we will try to have effective directional antennas
also in mult stations. Good low band verticals in the beach are also in the
list.
If interested contact oh9mm@sral.fi for further info.
Scandinavian ops: This is a ?normal? Tj?reborg ?charter trip. We will fly via
Stockholm so joining us could not be any easier. We have also negotiated a
group price...
73
Juha, OH9MM
----
Juha V?lim?ki
Teknologiapuistonkatu 4 A 1 GSM: +358 40 7041433
53850 lappeen Ranta e-mail's: juha.valimaki@lut.fi or oh9mm@sral.fi
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Thu Jul 18 19:11:32 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [TRLog] Various IARU issues
Message-ID: <14b.110b03ba.2a689714@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/18/2002 11:04:02 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
n0ss@earthlink.net writes:
> In the heat of a contest, it is sometimes difficult to remember to "QRL"
> each time you think you've found a clear freq, I must admit.
I program "?" into F6 and "QRL?' into F7. I try to remember to hit F7 every
time I find a new frequency for starting a run. I also use a Dymo Labelmaker
to mark all Function keys.
73, Geo...J75KG/K5KG
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Thu Jul 18 19:30:36 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs to move
to the new modes
and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL agrees)
that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal environments.
Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the noise
threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD applications
and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
73 Dave K4JRB
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Thu Jul 18 19:02:24 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] why pic IARU Radiosport to marry WRTC?
In-Reply-To: <00a601c22e78$a9d72e40$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJGECOEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Isn't WRTC a big social event, too?
If it was in with any other big time contest or it's own contest, it seems
to me that that might take away from the social gathering aspects of the
event.
73,
dale, kg5u
>
> Re: Why IARU?
>
> Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
>
>
>
> My take:
>
> Summary - It is perfect fit - othwer than n0t being at the best
> time of year
> for radio propagation!
>
> Why:
>
> ...the event has to take place in the context of another contest
> - why upset
> the two biggees - CQWW and ARRL - they are the Kings
>
> ...the event has to be during a contest which allows both phone and cw
> operating to be showcased - need I say more
>
> ...W's need to be able to work W's and DL's need to be able to work DL's -
> when susnspot conditions are low and you have marginalized DXing you still
> need rate!
>
> .......is there another bi-modal worldwide event that is on all
> the HF bands
> that will work?
>
> Don't think so!
>
> What do you propose Mark???????????????
>
>
> Jim, K4OJ
>
>
>
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>From llindblom at juno.com Fri Jul 19 02:14:41 2002
From: llindblom@juno.com (Larry L Lindblom)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] [TCG] NAQP RTTY TEAMS: LAST CALL
Message-ID: <20020719.012111.-625929.3.LLindblom@juno.com>
One more chance for anyone and everyone to join us on a TCG team for NAQP
RTTY. As you can see from those who have signed on the TCG now has an
international line up and welcomes anyone else who wants to have fun to
join us.
The line up so far includes:
W4GKM
K4RO
W4BCG
N1NB
KE4OAR
N2WK
W5CTV
AI9T
VE9DX
W4OX
W4LC
NY1S
KB5BOB
NN4T
VA3WN
PJ2EL
8P6SH
W9HLY
K9SZ
VA7SW
IK0HBN
W0ETC
Twenty-two people have signed on so there will be at least five TCG
teams. Team names under consideration include Hot Dogs, Hound Dogs, Junk
Yard Dogs, Cool Cats, and Alley Cats. Be you a growler or a hisser, be
you full time or part time, be you in the USA or elsewhere you are
welcome to join with us on a team.
Don't miss out on the team competition. E-mail me direct and you can
play with us. As always if your call is missing from the list please
resend your e-mail as I might of fat fingered it into the trash by
mistake.
73 & GL to all
W0ETC in IA
>From k5na at texas.net Fri Jul 19 03:42:30 2002
From: k5na@texas.net (Richard L. King)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719020602.02530b00@pop.texas.net>
2002 IARU Contest
W1AW/5 ARRL Headquarters Station
Location - Central Texas (Austin, Texas area)
CW Phone
Total
Band QSOs Points QSOs Points QSOs
Points Mults
160 177 375 156 296 333
671 11
80 329 771 444 1048 773
1819 27
40 824 2545 760 1778 1584
4323 55
20 1594 5966 2319 7522 3913
13488 87
15 1274 4766 1585 5339 2859
10105 92
10 402 1098 467 1277 869
2375 39
Total 4600 15521 5731 17260 10331
32781 311
Claimed Score: 32,781 x 311 = 10,194,891
This past year has been a busy one here in Central Texas while we prepared
for W1AW/5. Though we were given the W1AW/5 assignment over 3 years ago,
the planning got started in seriousness a year ago immediately after the
2001 IARU.
Six of the premier Central Texas stations agreed to participate - K5NA,
K5TR, N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT. Each of these stations could have been a
powerhouse on any of the bands or modes but the assignments were:
K5NA - 80M CW, 40M CW, & 15M SSB.
K5TR - 80M SSB & 20M SSB
N5CQ - 10M CW
N5TW - 160M CW & 20M CW.
NX5M - 160M SSB & 10M SSB.
W5KFT - 40M SSB & 15M SSB
W5XD wrote a special version of WriteLog for use by the headquarters
stations. Basically the new version allowed us to connect to a central
Internet server that fed QSOs back to all the W1AW/5 sites in real-time.
Each site could always tell what QSOs and mults each of the other band/mode
sites needed. The software also fed the frequencies of the radios back to
everyone to allow each station to move QSOs to other bands easily.
We had a total of about 15 computers set up at all the sites and each ended
up with the same QSO and multiplier numbers at the end of the contest. The
software was really awesome.
The 24 hours of the IARU were noisy because Central Texas was being hit
with wave after wave of thunderstorms. This condition caused high QRM on
all the bands and especially affected the low bands. The thunderstorms had
been occurring for several days before the contest and there was a lot of
flooding in the area. But no W1AW/5 sites were affected by flooding. The
rain static and thunderstorms were another matter.
The thunderstorms forced the N5TW, NX5M, & W5KFT sites to shut down at
different times during the contest as thunder cells passed by. Since the
logging system was real-time and current at all the sites, it was possible
for other sites to start working the vacated band/modes almost immediately
after the affected stations were shut down. A lot of cell phone calls were
made to coordinate this. Later the band/modes were switched back to the
original stations.
Our goal was to beat the old W1AW/p record set by W1AW/4 in 2000. However,
10 meters just didn't have much in the way of good conditions here and we
fell a little short. With sun spots going down, the W1AW/4 record may stand
for a few years. Our secondary goal was to beat NU1AW and the other
headquarters stations. But I haven't heard any other official HQ scores yet.
All the stations owners and operators had a great time doing this. It was
great fun.
Thanks to the K1ZZ and the ARRL for allowing us to do W1AW/5 in this
contest. Also thanks to W5XD for his work developing his terrific software
to support our effort and to AB5K for the special telnet node used
exclusively by all the W1AW/5 stations.
There will be more detailed information and breakdowns of the W1AW/5 effort
available on the net very soon.
73, Richard - K5NA
k5na@texas.net
>From ah3c at frii.com Thu Jul 18 20:14:21 2002
From: ah3c@frii.com (Peter Grillo, Sr.)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
<001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
<3D36EA17.1C9C49EC@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000401c22ed1$32833f60$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
I neglected to mention that all QSO's were in English with perfect use of
international phonetics. As referee, it was interesting to pick up the
requests for repeats during this run.....I counted 6! Robert has a great
SSB base voice (like OH2BH, N6TJ, and others). I did not count the number
of YU's worked during this run. I don't have the disk. The referee point
of view will be the subject of an article for NCJ.
----- Original Message -----
From: "K4SB" <hamcat@directvinternet.com>
To: "[Contest Reflector]" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
> "Peter Grillo, Sr." wrote:
> >
> > YU7BW (OJ2Q) had 254 QSO's on 20 SSB 1st hour!
>
> Well, perhaps one more story. In the late 80s, I and several others
> operated the
> CQWWSSB from V47. Now, to show the rediculous, we arranged for a top
> JA ( think his
> name was Yosi ) to be part of our team. Flew him over here at our
> expense, ect. Although he did operate other bands, his primary use was
> when openings to JA occured in late afternoon. His rate was absolutely
> fantastic, over 400+ per hour, and of course, in Japanese.
>
> So that may well be a consideration the next time a team is put
> together. Believe me, he had his buddies at home lined up like ducks
> in a shooting gallary. No doubt, the discipline of the JAs was also a
> factor.
>
> And yes, we did win.
>
> 73
> ed, k4sb
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>From k5zd at charter.net Fri Jul 19 04:35:29 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
In-Reply-To: <200207162046.g6GKkU5r012628@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDGEOLDKAA.k5zd@charter.net>
It is difficult to get logging software perfect for a contest that only
occurs every 2, 4, or 6 years and has different rules each time! N6TR,
K1EA, and W5XD (+SM6SRW) all did extra work to support WRTC. All
competitors were able to successfully log the contest!
What is interesting (and unexpected to me) is all the discussion about
logging software and scoring that has been generated. All of it due to the
online score reporting during the contest! I think we all know how funny
things that impact the score can get into a log during the contest and are
usually repaired before the log is submitted. With the WRTC online
reporting experiment, we got to see just how wildly varying some of these
things can be!
They do nothing to detract from the contest. They do point out some things
that could be further improved for future online score reporting
experiments.
The goal of the online reporting was to make the contest more visible to
everyone. In that regard, it was every bit as successful as had been hoped.
Give OH6KN and his team a pat on the back for pulling it off. It was fun.
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Mike Gilmer, N2MG
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 20:47 PM
> To: CQ-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC glitches
>
>
> I don't think I'd want to be the one to tell a WRTC competitor who has
> used CT for 10 years that he has to learn TRLog or SuperDuper or
> whatever. I believe it's pretty much the same reasoning behind letting
> the ops choose their own radios.
>
> But I agree that the software should have been tested...alas. It'll be
> interesting to see just what the bug was.
>
> -Mike N2MG
>
> The following message was sent by "David L. Thompson"
> <thompson@mindspring.com> on Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:40:50 -0400.
>
> > It seems that with all the effort to provide similar
> transceiver, location,
> > and antennas that the same software would be used. And the
> software should
> > be tested beforehand.
> >
> > I always run several different logs through my CQ 160 software
> each year to
> > assure its checking OK and get rid of bugs. Writelog authors and
> > supporters including K9JY say that for each contest you should
> always set up
> > a test log and give it a spin before the contest. With N6AA,
> K5ZD and other
> > logging experts on hand this should have been fundamental.
> >
> > I am also concerned that the address for e-mail logs filled up
> and kicked
> > back some logs.
> >
> > Otherwise congratulations to the contestants and sponsors.
> >
> > 73 Dave K4JRB
>
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>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 18 21:34:08 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
References: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DD7@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Message-ID: <00e601c22ed5$25f7be20$5a2afea9@sbcglobal.net>
Nope. Bug in the software caused all columns to be mis-aligned when station
worked again on subsequent band. Also then counted these as "new HQ mults",
grossly overstating the HQ mults real-time. We knew we could correct the
imbalance post-contest, but unfortunately the G.D. real-time scoreboard was
out there. At least it appears that it gave the old-timers someone to cheer
for.
While the software problem was a major distraction throughout the contest,
no excuses are offered here. We had a great time, a wonderful host/hostess
@ OH2HUH, a FB referee in OH6RX, and a very competitive station. We wish
now we could have a "do-over"!
All-in-all, a not to be missed event, and I hope the next one will be no
more than two years hence.
Our congratulations to all who played, and especially the Top Ten teams,
headed aptly by Jeff and Dan. (And as my wife observes, the most "normal"
guys there. Hmmm.........).
Our OH friends are also to be thanked for the very hard work they put in to
the games. It showed.
73
Jim Neiger
N6TJ ( OJ2F w/ N6AA)
(just off plane from Paris, and too pooped)
----- Original Message -----
From: <jukka.klemola@nokia.com>
To: <k6km@cncnet.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
> Winners N5TJ & K1TO
> Second RA3AUU & RV1AW
> Third DL6FBL & DL2CC
>
> AA & TJ lost a lot from their score, I do not
> have details of the reasons, but understanding
> is other one used caps lock and the other did not
> so some multis were counted twice.
>
> 73,
> Jukka
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ext Bill [mailto:k6km@cncnet.com]
> > Sent: 16 July, 2002 07:53
> > To: timo.klimoff@kolumbus.fi
> > Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Wot's Up in Finland?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hei OH-land!
> >
> > What is happening there?
> >
> > Please tell us supporters of WRTC02 WHO WON the
> > competition!
> >
> > Obviously there were some scoring problems, most
> > notably with N6TJ and N6AA. PLEASE tell us why their
> > score decreased as time passed; that should not be possible.
> >
> > PLEASE tell us why the N5KO/9V1YC score went
> > flat in the last few hours.
> >
> > PLEASE tell us which teams were associated with which
> > OJ callsigns!
> >
> > PLEASE tell us what's going on. To me, the delay in
> > reporting results means that POLITICS is coming in
> > to play and POLITICS may be more meaningful than
> > PERFORMANCE in determing the final results.
> >
> > PLEASE prove me wrong.
> >
> > As any one might expect, Team Finland did a wonderful
> > job preparing for and hosting WRTC 2002. Thank you
> > for that. But WHY have you kept the world in ignorance
> > as to the results?
> >
> > PLEASE TELL US WOT's UP!
> >
> > Bill K6KM
> > also OH2/K6KM and OH0/K6KM
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
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>From K4BEV at aol.com Fri Jul 19 00:45:05 2002
From: K4BEV@aol.com (K4BEV@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Solar full-halo eruption
Message-ID: <16f.10c19acd.2a68e541@aol.com>
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/07/17/sun.burst/index.html
Superb photo of a full-halo eruption.
May be some comm problems in our near future though.
K4BEV
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>From k2av at contesting.com Fri Jul 19 00:45:40 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
References: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <007501c22ed6$c09c1a10$0500a8c0@swift>
They can be replaced. When that particular chairman is gone, we will
still be here, sending code. Sounds like he doesn't have enough work
to do.
It's kinda like them telling an old car collector to get his '60
Thunderbird off the road.
PSK31 is growing leaps and bounds, all by itself, no help needed from
the FCC, and CW will remain an art form for a long time.
Voice, anything narrower than SSB around? WHAT new voice mode?
73, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move
> to the new modes
> and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
agrees)
> that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal
environments.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
>
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>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Jul 19 00:06:50 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
In-Reply-To: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207182303030.8752-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
I dunno - it's still a hobby to me. I do it for fun. I've been doing CW
for 35 years because I'm good at it and I think it's fun.
I work with a guy who does Highland games. On some weekends they dress up
in kilts and throw rocks and sticks around. It's a hobby. They do it for
fun. Sure, a mortar can fire a rock farther than he can throw it, but
that isn't as much fun to him.
I'll keep doing CW (and sometimes SSB) and the new digital modes as long
as they continue to be fun to me.
73, Zack W9SZ
On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, David L. Thompson wrote:
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs to move
> to the new modes
> and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL agrees)
> that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal environments.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Fri Jul 19 05:13:26 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
References: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <3D3791E6.670BFBD7@directvinternet.com>
"David L. Thompson" wrote:
The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move
to the new modes and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He
said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in
weak signal environments.
.........
Oh yes, and ARRL also persuaded the FCC to create an absolutely
worthless "new band" on 5+ Mhz. Of course, this is going to mean
literally hundreds of thousands of dollars to the manufacturers. And
no doubt, the ARRL, in all it's wisdom, will pronounce this new band
to be acceptable in contests.
When I flew in the Navy, there was a particular hand signal sometimes
given by a flight leader to their wing man. It is best described a
holding your left hand palm down and horizontal, while making a fist
of your right hand and striking the left hand sharply a couple of
times.
It's meaning is "Get your head out of your ASS!"
73
Ed
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Fri Jul 19 05:18:38 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
References: <200207171805.g6HI595r000770@contesting.com>
<001f01c22de5$1b471840$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
<3D36EA17.1C9C49EC@directvinternet.com>
<000401c22ed1$32833f60$0100a8c0@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <3D37931E.76EE60F2@directvinternet.com>
"Peter Grillo, Sr." wrote:
>
> I neglected to mention that all QSO's were in English with perfect use of
> international phonetics. As referee, it was interesting to pick up the
> requests for repeats during this run.>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "K4SB" <hamcat@directvinternet.com>
> > So that may well be a consideration the next time a team is put
> > together. Believe me, he had his buddies at home lined up like ducks
> > in a shooting gallary. No doubt, the discipline of the JAs was also a
> > factor.
In my comment, I now realize that I should have changed the subject.
For some of us, there are other contests besides the WRTC.
73
Ed
>From al_lorona at agilent.com Thu Jul 18 23:26:23 2002
From: al_lorona@agilent.com (al_lorona@agilent.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2043C1293@axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
I know what you mean. I guess it makes little sense to use:
Sails in the age of boats with motors,
Pianos in the age of electronic keyboards,
Cotton in the age of polyester,
Gas stoves in the age of microwave ovens,
Hardy Boys in the age of Harry Potter,
Cash in the age of credit cards,
The local hardware store in the age of Home Depot,
Religion in the age of paganism,
Mozart in the age of Brittney Spears,
Eyeglasses in the age of laser surgery,
Actually going shopping in the age of buying on-line,
and books in the age of computers.
Anything old is bad. Anything new is not only better, but should replace
the old, and nobody should use the old anymore. Cuz it's old. Anyone who
does is just... well... old-fashioned, and is holding back the hobby from
progressing.
I can't believe the chairman made those comments, if he did make those
comments. Isn't it Colin Powell's son, or am I thinking of somebody else?
Dave, where did you get this information?
Al, W6LX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:30 PM
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
>
>
> > The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
> to move
> > to the new modes
> > and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
> agrees)
> > that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal
> environments.
> > Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
> noise
> > threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
> >
> > The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
> applications
> > and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
> >
> > So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
> >
> > 73 Dave K4JRB
>From sm2ekm at telia.com Fri Jul 19 09:26:31 2002
From: sm2ekm@telia.com (Jan Erik Holm)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Various IARU issues
References: <14b.110b03ba.2a689714@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3D37B117.60007@telia.com>
I did learn to ask if the frequency was in use 35 years ago and
just becourse you are in a contest doesn?t make it more difficult.
I always ask 2 - 3 times (usually 3 times) if it?s in use and sometimes
during CQWW when the band is wide open it might take me 5 minutes
to find a frequency I can use since it?s QRL all the time but that?s
part of the battle as far as I see it. If someone then tells me to move
after I?ve made 2 - 3 Q?s I will move but not if someone comes
around after 5 or 10 minutes and claim I took his frequency.
However, even being this carefull (I think I am at least) people
will get angry with me and claim I stole the frequency , you can?t
win all the time. Ofcourse I do make misstakes sometimes, i e if
I get on a frequency let?s say 250 times and follow the above
rutine I might make a misstake a few times, it?s crowded you
are thired and what not so it?s just human.
But bottom line, I don?t understan how people can think it?s
difficult to ask if the frequency is occupied.
Jim SM2EKM
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Georgek5kg@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 7/18/2002 11:04:02 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
>n0ss@earthlink.net writes:
>
>
>>In the heat of a contest, it is sometimes difficult to remember to "QRL"
>>each time you think you've found a clear freq, I must admit.
>>
>
>I program "?" into F6 and "QRL?' into F7. I try to remember to hit F7 every
>time I find a new frequency for starting a run. I also use a Dymo Labelmaker
>to mark all Function keys.
>
>73, Geo...J75KG/K5KG
>
>George I. Wagner, K5KG
>Productivity Resources LLC
>941-312-9450
>941-312-9460 fax
>201-415-6044 cell
>
>
>
>
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>From n3bb at mindspring.com Fri Jul 19 03:18:23 2002
From: n3bb@mindspring.com (Jim George)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Message-ID: <v02120d02b95d76e5e01b@EIM-Mac-1.5tcp>
Interesting question.
First off, the WRTC needs to be in a warm climate. It would be tough for
the station and antenna work to be in inclement weather. Second, the WRTC
must be imbedded in some form of contest, otherwise, the rich enviroment of
QSOs and multipliers available would not exist. In addition, the WRTC is
the championship of contesting, and therefore it needs to be in a
contesting environment, with both modes available. The IARU is not any of
the national contests, or regional. Realistically, that leaves the IARU in
the summer (northern hemisphere)as the only alternative The IARU's 24 hour
length is a good compromise between the full 48 hours and shorter
durations. The 24 hour length is important from the consideration of the
hosts and also the competitors and referees. From an overall perspective,
the IARU is a good environment.
Jim N3BB
>Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
>
>Mark, N5OT
>
>
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>From paul at ei5di.com Fri Jul 19 10:05:23 2002
From: paul@ei5di.com (Paul O'Kane)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
References: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <00a701c22eff$3cf4a780$e5a5fea9@dell>
---- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time
> for amateurs to move to the new modes and leave what he
> considers are obsolete modes.
The new FCC Chairman may not understand how Amateur Radio differs
from all other radio services.
> He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is
> superior to CW in weak signal environments.
This is correct, but it is irrelevant because PSK31, and other
data modes, cannot be decoded by the human ear alone.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals
> are below the noise threshold. Listen to the speaker
> and there is nothing!
Then, whatever it is, it's not amateur radio - pehaps it's amateur
data communications? In my book, if it's not Phone or CW, decoded
by the human ear alone in real-time, then it's not amateur radio.
73,
Paul EI5DI
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 19 11:55:08 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020719095508.00721d28@pop.vnet.net>
K4JRB wrote:
>The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move to the new modes and leave what he considers are obsolete modes.
And exactly what are his credentials? Do you think he has any
idea he knows what he is talking about? I don't.
http://www.fcc.gov/commissioners/powell/mkp_biography.html
Perhaps he would like to demonstrate digital modes are superior by
comparing contest results for existing contests. Here are high-claimed
CQ/RJ WW RTTY scores from last fall's contest:
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/2001-October/029841.html
The highest number of contacts made by any single op was 2461 QSO's
which is not even close to the typical CW or SSB SOAB scores. I even
made more than that myself on 10 meters alone! Isn't it about time
we stop taking these "expert" claims at face value and do a reality
check with the brain God has given us?
>He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW
in weak signal environments.
Then I have a challenge for CQ Magazine Dave. Replace the CQ
160 SSB contest (where SSB has already been proven inferior to CW) with
the CQ 160 PSK31 contest. Let's just see if Chariman Powell and ARRL's
claims are true rather than taking them at face value.
>Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the noise
threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
Sure some of the computer-to-computer modes (PSK31, WSJT, QRSS)
can extract signals below the noise level, but how quickly do you think
they could make contacts? A QRSS contest would be a real blast to hear
at ~0.8 words per hour!
>The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD applications
and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
So what? Most of the human element is being removed from DOD
applications (pilots, operators, etc.) My only question is "What do
you do when the computer or GPS fails?" I suppose whe have also
stopped teaching Commercial Marine captains how to use sextants, but
I wouldn't want to go to sea with one who didn't have one and know how
to use it. Rather than making ourselves totally dependent on technology
(which I am a firm believer in BTW), I would hope we are teaching our
military "what to do when the computer breaks".
>So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
I think it's time we stopped accepting some of the groundless
assertions we are getting from the FCC and ARRL. If we really believe
some digital mode is superior, let's put it to the (con)test, which is
the ultimate test of communicatins under extreme conditions. I have
yet to see any digital mode that would even come close but I would
gladly change my opinion if factually proven otherwise. Opinions from
FCC Chairman Powell just won't do it for me.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 19 12:10:46 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020719101046.0131f554@pop.vnet.net>
EI5DI replied to K4JRB:
**********************************************************************
> He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is
> superior to CW in weak signal environments.
This is correct, but it is irrelevant because PSK31, and other
data modes, cannot be decoded by the human ear alone.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals
> are below the noise threshold. Listen to the speaker
> and there is nothing!
Then, whatever it is, it's not amateur radio - pehaps it's amateur
data communications? In my book, if it's not Phone or CW, decoded
by the human ear alone in real-time, then it's not amateur radio.
**********************************************************************
I couldn't agree more Paul! When we can make a WSJT "QSO"
and submit our "QSL" for DXCC without ever actually having heard a
signal or done anything but look at our comuter screen, what is the
point? Is this amateur radio? I think it's something very close to
the Internet but I thought we already had that. Where is the human
element of hearing a signal with our own ears? It might be the future
but count me out because it frankly holds no interest for me.
73, Bill W4ZV
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 19 09:22:31 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
In-Reply-To: <007501c22ed6$c09c1a10$0500a8c0@swift>
References: <00dd01c22eab$c5589f40$b51245cf@default>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020719081036.02465b50@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 11:45 PM 7/18/02 -0400, Guy Olinger, K2AV wrote:
>They can be replaced. When that particular chairman is gone, we will
>still be here, sending code. Sounds like he doesn't have enough work
>to do.
>
>It's kinda like them telling an old car collector to get his '60
>Thunderbird off the road.
>
>PSK31 is growing leaps and bounds, all by itself, no help needed from
>the FCC, and CW will remain an art form for a long time.
>
>Voice, anything narrower than SSB around? WHAT new voice mode?
The only trouble is that there are only 5 Commissioners, who could decide
to change a lot of things we find important (like abolishing CW
subbands). If this proves to be a true report, then we also have to assume
that the people responsible for advising them on ham matters fed them this
misinformation, and there could be more on the way.
If (again) it's true, I suggest that hams write to the Chairman (copying
the other commissioners), in a calm and respectful manner, pointing out the
continued utility of CW for hams, its spectrum-conserving properties, and
urge him to continue to support this mode. Myself, I would point out the
international good-will aspect of amateur radio's statutory purpose, and
ask whether it makes sense for the FCC to move in directions that would
tend to lessen access of amateurs in lesser-developed countries.
The bottom line, to me, is that it doesn't have to be either-or -- CW can
remain, just like sailboats in an age of jet aircraft...
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From k9iua at yahoo.com Fri Jul 19 07:32:17 2002
From: k9iua@yahoo.com (Kevin Anderson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?)
Message-ID: <20020719133217.46920.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com>
I know I am one confused operator.
I personally found the IARU and WRTC being on
the same weekend to be very confusing. At times
they were talked about in the same breath, and
other times they are talked about separately.
In the end I feel like I never really understood
what went on this last weekend, particularly in
understanding exactly what WRTC was and how these
particular operators come to be associated.
I still am largely a new contest operator, at
least when compared to the experience level that
most of you have acquired. I suspect that there
are many other relatively new contestors who are
confused by the dual (or is that combined?) IARU
and WRTC contests on the same weekend. The
sponsors of both could do much more to help
clarify what is going on.
Cheers/73,
Kevin, K9IUA
=====
-------------------------------------
Kevin Anderson, Dubuque IA USA, K9IUA
k9iua (at) yahoo (dot) com
-------------------------------------
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>From Timothy.Urban at wc.ey.com Fri Jul 19 10:34:43 2002
From: Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com (Timothy.Urban@wc.ey.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <OF3AAA7286.370F36D6-ON85256BFB.004A2F4C@ey.com>
As a former military hf cw operator, I don't believe the statement about
the DoD is factually true. My connections back at Ft Bragg, home of the
US Army special warfare commo school tell me that cw is still a mandatory
part of the JFK Special Warfare Course.
Don't know anything about commercial marine communication.
73
Tim
N5IIT
cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
07/18/2002 06:30 PM
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
cc:
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs to
move
to the new modes
and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
agrees)
that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal environments.
Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the noise
threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
73 Dave K4JRB
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 19 14:55:15 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Correction: CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020719125515.00728fdc@pop.vnet.net>
I wrote:
>The highest number of contacts made by any single op was 2461 QSO's
which is not even close to the typical CW or SSB SOAB scores.
My apologies to K3MM at P40MM who made 2972 QSO's in the low
power category which will be the new SOABHP World record, but my point
still stands.
73, Bill W4ZV
P.S. I also wrote:
>A QRSS contest would be a real blast to hear at ~0.8 words per hour!
That's 0.0133 WPM CW! ;-)
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Fri Jul 19 10:59:53 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
Message-ID: <120.13682f4a.2a697559@aol.com>
W1AW/5:
Great job guys. It was fun chasing you around the bands...or being chased!
73, George J75KG/K5KG and Fred, J79MM/NA2U
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 19 08:00:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 19Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207191400.g6JE0Zt15777@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 19Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 8927 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW LP
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
RN4LP 1505 4683 251 24 1,175,433
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 14 463,606 HSDXA
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 k 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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All SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
K1HT 399 123 139 8 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
FM5GU 0 1492 99 9 609,246
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From n2mg at eham.net Fri Jul 19 12:04:44 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
Message-ID: <200207191404.g6JE4i5r009456@contesting.com>
> (FCC Chairman Powell said) Amateurs are working each other with QRP
> where signals are below the noise threshold. Listen to the speaker
> and there is nothing!
Perhaps that's just what the FCC wants - all hams running 100mW with
crappy antennas chatting with their keyboards. No PRB-1, no CC&R
issues, no RFI, no exposure concerns...
Gee, sounds like the Internet, only, um worse!
Mike N2MG
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 19 11:52:16 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
References: <200207191333.g6JDX05r008807@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <00f801c22f33$e4629a20$03010a0a@office1>
I don't know guys, but something of this smells like a red herring that's
been left in the back seat of someone's car for a few days with the windows
up and the temperatures averaging the upper 90's (Farenheit, that is)
I just did a search through some of the news archives. I wanted to see
exactly what Chairman Powell was quoted as saying and in what context.
Guess what? If this happened recently (and I checked as far back as March),
no one seems to have reported it as a news item anywhere.
And isn't it curious that the original post states that this is a quote from
the "new FCC Chairman"? He's been FCC Chairman for quite some time now,
over a year I believe -- hardly new. And he's not mentioned by name.
Neither is the group of amateurs.
So before we jump off the handle and run around screaming at how unfair this
all is, or how it's inevitable, or how this is another ARRL plot to sell
more radios for the manufacturer's by giving us a worthless 5 MHz
allocation, or something else equally or moreso ridiculous, let's find out a
few things:
(a) Exactly who said this?
(b) Exactly when was it said?
(c) Exactly what was said?
(d) Exactly who was it said to?
If we don't know that, not only is this all wild speculation, but it has the
legitimacy of an anonymous email telling you to delete a file off your hard
drive calle AOL.EXE because it's an obvious virus that will destroy your
brain cells. Or something like that.
73, ron wn3vaw
"And they give you cash,
which is just as good as money!"
Yogi Berra, AFLAC Commercial, 2002
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Olinger, K2AV" <k2av@contesting.com>
To: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>,
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
They can be replaced. When that particular chairman is gone, we will
still be here, sending code. Sounds like he doesn't have enough work
to do.
It's kinda like them telling an old car collector to get his '60
Thunderbird off the road.
PSK31 is growing leaps and bounds, all by itself, no help needed from
the FCC, and CW will remain an art form for a long time.
Voice, anything narrower than SSB around? WHAT new voice mode?
73, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move
> to the new modes
> and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
agrees)
> that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal
environments.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
>
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>From wiess at zt.bialap.tpsa.pl Fri Jul 19 17:54:51 2002
From: wiess@zt.bialap.tpsa.pl (Wieslaw SP8SW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Thanks for fun - wrtc2002 fan
Message-ID: <000b01c22f34$3d3789d0$2da3ccc2@LBZ1NZTWS02>
Just ended event I waited last two years beeing fan of my participating in
it friends...
Many thanks to all who contribute to it; it was realy wonderfull HAM
festival in all world...
My illness did not get me chance participate in IARU HF and support them as
much as I hoped...
And now, when I am back at home, I gone to analyse photos and results - just
to experience this great time once again...
And found somethitng what I do not understand - with end classification of
teams...
On results page is linked to Excell file with scores :
http://www.wrtc2002.org/wrtc/scores.xls
In that sheet - why some teams have qso points scored as arithmetic rule and
other not ?!
Seems, for most teams "QSO total" was counted "in mind", and not as Excell
rule ! There seems to be difference 10...104 QSO points - browsing sheet you
may see where is "QSOs total" counted, and where filled manualy..
Why ?
Sorry for this question and for my poor english. I hope it is simple
explanation that I, and many of hams - need know asap (no matter teams
positions..).
My best regards from east Poland
73 de Wies SP8SW (ex SP8NTW)
>From W4EF at dellroy.com Fri Jul 19 08:58:36 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Michael Tope)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
References: <1.5.4.32.20020719095508.00721d28@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <110701c22f34$c2aae620$6501a8c0@1800XP>
This all reminds me of the claims made about Fractal antennas.
Lots of articles were written about how "superior" fractal
antennas were compared with traditional methods of loading.
Oddly enough however, the only article I have ever seen that
made actual apples to apples comparisons between Fractal
and non-fractal loading methods actually showed that Fractals
elements were either the same or in some cases worse than
the non self-similar elements. Same thing goes with PSK31.
People listen to their audio outputs in a 3KHz
bandwidth and then are amazed when the soundcard can decode
signals they can't hear - well duh! A PSK31 signal is about 50
Hz wide, and so is the matched filter in the sound card - thats
about 17dB of additional SNR - no magic. Also, try cranking
up your Alpha to 1.5 KW output while running
PSK31. That is why everyone runs 5 watts, because that's how
far you'll need to back off your MIC gain before people stop
complaining about your IMD levels.
Somebody needs to run actuals link tests on a calibrated test bed
in various noise environments (impulse, gaussian, lightning static)
comparing CW and PSK31 before these assertions can be
verified. Maybe PSK31 does have some advantage, but I have
yet to see anything but anecdotal claims. Sounds like a good
paper for QEX magazine.
73 de Mike, W4EF.............................
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tippett" <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 2:55 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
> K4JRB wrote:
> >The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
> to move to the new modes and leave what he considers are obsolete modes.
>
> And exactly what are his credentials? Do you think he has any
> idea he knows what he is talking about? I don't.
>
> http://www.fcc.gov/commissioners/powell/mkp_biography.html
>
> Perhaps he would like to demonstrate digital modes are superior by
> comparing contest results for existing contests. Here are high-claimed
> CQ/RJ WW RTTY scores from last fall's contest:
>
> http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/2001-October/029841.html
>
> The highest number of contacts made by any single op was 2461 QSO's
> which is not even close to the typical CW or SSB SOAB scores. I even
> made more than that myself on 10 meters alone! Isn't it about time
> we stop taking these "expert" claims at face value and do a reality
> check with the brain God has given us?
>
> >He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW
> in weak signal environments.
>
> Then I have a challenge for CQ Magazine Dave. Replace the CQ
> 160 SSB contest (where SSB has already been proven inferior to CW) with
> the CQ 160 PSK31 contest. Let's just see if Chariman Powell and ARRL's
> claims are true rather than taking them at face value.
>
> >Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> Sure some of the computer-to-computer modes (PSK31, WSJT, QRSS)
> can extract signals below the noise level, but how quickly do you think
> they could make contacts? A QRSS contest would be a real blast to hear
> at ~0.8 words per hour!
>
> >The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So what? Most of the human element is being removed from DOD
> applications (pilots, operators, etc.) My only question is "What do
> you do when the computer or GPS fails?" I suppose whe have also
> stopped teaching Commercial Marine captains how to use sextants, but
> I wouldn't want to go to sea with one who didn't have one and know how
> to use it. Rather than making ourselves totally dependent on technology
> (which I am a firm believer in BTW), I would hope we are teaching our
> military "what to do when the computer breaks".
>
> >So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> I think it's time we stopped accepting some of the groundless
> assertions we are getting from the FCC and ARRL. If we really believe
> some digital mode is superior, let's put it to the (con)test, which is
> the ultimate test of communicatins under extreme conditions. I have
> yet to see any digital mode that would even come close but I would
> gladly change my opinion if factually proven otherwise. Opinions from
> FCC Chairman Powell just won't do it for me.
>
> 73, Bill W4ZV
>
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 19 09:14:39 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Claimed Scores Summary Reminder
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020719080218.00a41c88@pop3.eskimo.com>
Just a reminder because I am getting a lot of questions
as to why certain scores are not in the claimed score summary
even though they have been posted to 3830.
To get your score on the claimed scores please
go to: http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
It even says to do this at the top of each summary :>)
If you cannot go to or use this Web site, let me know and
I will input the data into the form for you. However, I
just cannot afford the time anymore to manually enter all
the data from individual "free style" summaries. Thanks
to Bruce, WA7BNM, the technology is here for a better
way to provide standardized score postings and you can
put just about anything you want in the comment section
(including your "free style" summary).
73 dink, n7wa
p.s. Thanks Bruce - for giving me time for my hobby again :>)
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Fri Jul 19 12:22:57 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719020602.02530b00@pop.texas.net>
Message-ID: <00e201c22f38$299ca140$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Congratulations on a great job representing the USA, Rich.
The Florida Contest Group had a blast two years ago as W1AW/4- you have
taken it to the next level for team USA by interconnecting multiple sites -
hats off to you and W5XD - great achievement - cannot imagine all the
screens in sync at the end of the contest from 6 different sites - WOW!
Talk about knowing who to pass and where to pass them!!!!!
...this was not do-able two years ago but now is history - very very cool -
this is the current level - what will be next? The HQ Radiosport station
offers an opportunity to do this kind of thing (multiple sites) that no
other contest can - and as contesters we all love using technology to stuff
our envelopes to the point of breaking, hi! I know that the logistics of
two years ago were tough - sure would have been nice to gab to "anyone
anywhere" on the network!
Go Team USA!
73,
Jim, K4OJ
& THE Florida Contest Group
FCG #1 WRTC02 - N5TJ + K1TO
FCG #4 WRTC02 - N6MJ + N2NL
...from Sunny Florida where we are awaiting the return from WRTC in Europe
of our President, Dan, K1TO (co- #1) and VP Jeff, WC4E (a referee)
Should the opportunity to operate one of these affairs ever become available
again I would jump at the chance - it was as they say "a hoot" - being a
unique multiplier by just jumping in your car to go to the local MM
station....neat.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard L. King <k5na@texas.net>
To: <3830@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; <ctdxcc@kkn.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:42 PM
Subject: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
> 2002 IARU Contest
>
> W1AW/5 ARRL Headquarters Station
>
> Location - Central Texas (Austin, Texas area)
>
> CW Phone
> Total
> Band QSOs Points QSOs Points QSOs
> Points Mults
>
> 160 177 375 156 296 333
> 671 11
> 80 329 771 444 1048 773
> 1819 27
> 40 824 2545 760 1778 1584
> 4323 55
> 20 1594 5966 2319 7522 3913
> 13488 87
> 15 1274 4766 1585 5339 2859
> 10105 92
> 10 402 1098 467 1277 869
> 2375 39
>
> Total 4600 15521 5731 17260 10331
> 32781 311
>
> Claimed Score: 32,781 x 311 = 10,194,891
>
> This past year has been a busy one here in Central Texas while we prepared
> for W1AW/5. Though we were given the W1AW/5 assignment over 3 years ago,
> the planning got started in seriousness a year ago immediately after the
> 2001 IARU.
>
> Six of the premier Central Texas stations agreed to participate - K5NA,
> K5TR, N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT. Each of these stations could have been
a
> powerhouse on any of the bands or modes but the assignments were:
>
> K5NA - 80M CW, 40M CW, & 15M SSB.
> K5TR - 80M SSB & 20M SSB
> N5CQ - 10M CW
> N5TW - 160M CW & 20M CW.
> NX5M - 160M SSB & 10M SSB.
> W5KFT - 40M SSB & 15M SSB
>
> W5XD wrote a special version of WriteLog for use by the headquarters
> stations. Basically the new version allowed us to connect to a central
> Internet server that fed QSOs back to all the W1AW/5 sites in real-time.
> Each site could always tell what QSOs and mults each of the other
band/mode
> sites needed. The software also fed the frequencies of the radios back to
> everyone to allow each station to move QSOs to other bands easily.
>
> We had a total of about 15 computers set up at all the sites and each
ended
> up with the same QSO and multiplier numbers at the end of the contest. The
> software was really awesome.
>
> The 24 hours of the IARU were noisy because Central Texas was being hit
> with wave after wave of thunderstorms. This condition caused high QRM on
> all the bands and especially affected the low bands. The thunderstorms had
> been occurring for several days before the contest and there was a lot of
> flooding in the area. But no W1AW/5 sites were affected by flooding. The
> rain static and thunderstorms were another matter.
>
> The thunderstorms forced the N5TW, NX5M, & W5KFT sites to shut down at
> different times during the contest as thunder cells passed by. Since the
> logging system was real-time and current at all the sites, it was possible
> for other sites to start working the vacated band/modes almost immediately
> after the affected stations were shut down. A lot of cell phone calls were
> made to coordinate this. Later the band/modes were switched back to the
> original stations.
>
> Our goal was to beat the old W1AW/p record set by W1AW/4 in 2000. However,
> 10 meters just didn't have much in the way of good conditions here and we
> fell a little short. With sun spots going down, the W1AW/4 record may
stand
> for a few years. Our secondary goal was to beat NU1AW and the other
> headquarters stations. But I haven't heard any other official HQ scores
yet.
>
> All the stations owners and operators had a great time doing this. It was
> great fun.
>
> Thanks to the K1ZZ and the ARRL for allowing us to do W1AW/5 in this
> contest. Also thanks to W5XD for his work developing his terrific software
> to support our effort and to AB5K for the special telnet node used
> exclusively by all the W1AW/5 stations.
>
> There will be more detailed information and breakdowns of the W1AW/5
effort
> available on the net very soon.
>
> 73, Richard - K5NA
>
> k5na@texas.net
>
> _______________________________________________
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> 3830@contesting.com
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>From dennis.mcalpine at verizon.net Fri Jul 19 12:26:05 2002
From: dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net (Dennis McAlpine)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020719020602.02530b00@pop.texas.net>
<00e201c22f38$299ca140$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <00aa01c22f38$99c517e0$ad3dca97@oemcomputer>
Yes, Jim, this year's ARRL HQ stations moved things up a bit but look at
some of the Europeans and their geographic diversification. Following their
example, why shouldn't we have stations spread out all over the country,
e.g. K1EA, N2RM, W3LPL, W4MYA, etc. In fact, given the geographic range,
why not have multiple statins on the same band, e.g. a W6 on 80 at the same
time as a W2. OK, so you can't have multiple statios on the same band. How
about a half hour from the East, then a half hour from midwest, then a half
hour from west coast and keep repeating the process. Tht would allow us to
use 36 different stations (6 bands X 2 modes x 3 stations per mode).
Imagine merging those logs.
73,
Dennis K2SX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim White, K4OJ" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <3830@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; <ctdxcc@kkn.net>;
"Richard L. King" <k5na@texas.net>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
> Congratulations on a great job representing the USA, Rich.
>
> The Florida Contest Group had a blast two years ago as W1AW/4- you have
> taken it to the next level for team USA by interconnecting multiple
sites -
> hats off to you and W5XD - great achievement - cannot imagine all the
> screens in sync at the end of the contest from 6 different sites - WOW!
> Talk about knowing who to pass and where to pass them!!!!!
>
> ...this was not do-able two years ago but now is history - very very
cool -
> this is the current level - what will be next? The HQ Radiosport station
> offers an opportunity to do this kind of thing (multiple sites) that no
> other contest can - and as contesters we all love using technology to
stuff
> our envelopes to the point of breaking, hi! I know that the logistics of
> two years ago were tough - sure would have been nice to gab to "anyone
> anywhere" on the network!
>
> Go Team USA!
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, K4OJ
>
> & THE Florida Contest Group
>
> FCG #1 WRTC02 - N5TJ + K1TO
> FCG #4 WRTC02 - N6MJ + N2NL
>
>
> ...from Sunny Florida where we are awaiting the return from WRTC in Europe
> of our President, Dan, K1TO (co- #1) and VP Jeff, WC4E (a referee)
>
>
> Should the opportunity to operate one of these affairs ever become
available
> again I would jump at the chance - it was as they say "a hoot" - being a
> unique multiplier by just jumping in your car to go to the local MM
> station....neat.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard L. King <k5na@texas.net>
> To: <3830@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>; <ctdxcc@kkn.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:42 PM
> Subject: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
>
>
> > 2002 IARU Contest
> >
> > W1AW/5 ARRL Headquarters Station
> >
> > Location - Central Texas (Austin, Texas area)
> >
> > CW Phone
> > Total
> > Band QSOs Points QSOs Points QSOs
> > Points Mults
> >
> > 160 177 375 156 296 333
> > 671 11
> > 80 329 771 444 1048 773
> > 1819 27
> > 40 824 2545 760 1778 1584
> > 4323 55
> > 20 1594 5966 2319 7522 3913
> > 13488 87
> > 15 1274 4766 1585 5339 2859
> > 10105 92
> > 10 402 1098 467 1277 869
> > 2375 39
> >
> > Total 4600 15521 5731 17260 10331
> > 32781 311
> >
> > Claimed Score: 32,781 x 311 = 10,194,891
> >
> > This past year has been a busy one here in Central Texas while we
prepared
> > for W1AW/5. Though we were given the W1AW/5 assignment over 3 years ago,
> > the planning got started in seriousness a year ago immediately after the
> > 2001 IARU.
> >
> > Six of the premier Central Texas stations agreed to participate - K5NA,
> > K5TR, N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT. Each of these stations could have
been
> a
> > powerhouse on any of the bands or modes but the assignments were:
> >
> > K5NA - 80M CW, 40M CW, & 15M SSB.
> > K5TR - 80M SSB & 20M SSB
> > N5CQ - 10M CW
> > N5TW - 160M CW & 20M CW.
> > NX5M - 160M SSB & 10M SSB.
> > W5KFT - 40M SSB & 15M SSB
> >
> > W5XD wrote a special version of WriteLog for use by the headquarters
> > stations. Basically the new version allowed us to connect to a central
> > Internet server that fed QSOs back to all the W1AW/5 sites in real-time.
> > Each site could always tell what QSOs and mults each of the other
> band/mode
> > sites needed. The software also fed the frequencies of the radios back
to
> > everyone to allow each station to move QSOs to other bands easily.
> >
> > We had a total of about 15 computers set up at all the sites and each
> ended
> > up with the same QSO and multiplier numbers at the end of the contest.
The
> > software was really awesome.
> >
> > The 24 hours of the IARU were noisy because Central Texas was being hit
> > with wave after wave of thunderstorms. This condition caused high QRM on
> > all the bands and especially affected the low bands. The thunderstorms
had
> > been occurring for several days before the contest and there was a lot
of
> > flooding in the area. But no W1AW/5 sites were affected by flooding. The
> > rain static and thunderstorms were another matter.
> >
> > The thunderstorms forced the N5TW, NX5M, & W5KFT sites to shut down at
> > different times during the contest as thunder cells passed by. Since the
> > logging system was real-time and current at all the sites, it was
possible
> > for other sites to start working the vacated band/modes almost
immediately
> > after the affected stations were shut down. A lot of cell phone calls
were
> > made to coordinate this. Later the band/modes were switched back to the
> > original stations.
> >
> > Our goal was to beat the old W1AW/p record set by W1AW/4 in 2000.
However,
> > 10 meters just didn't have much in the way of good conditions here and
we
> > fell a little short. With sun spots going down, the W1AW/4 record may
> stand
> > for a few years. Our secondary goal was to beat NU1AW and the other
> > headquarters stations. But I haven't heard any other official HQ scores
> yet.
> >
> > All the stations owners and operators had a great time doing this. It
was
> > great fun.
> >
> > Thanks to the K1ZZ and the ARRL for allowing us to do W1AW/5 in this
> > contest. Also thanks to W5XD for his work developing his terrific
software
> > to support our effort and to AB5K for the special telnet node used
> > exclusively by all the W1AW/5 stations.
> >
> > There will be more detailed information and breakdowns of the W1AW/5
> effort
> > available on the net very soon.
> >
> > 73, Richard - K5NA
> >
> > k5na@texas.net
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > 3830 mailing list
> > 3830@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/3830
>
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>From felipe at isla.net Fri Jul 19 12:59:05 2002
From: felipe@isla.net (Felipe J. Hernandez)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
In-Reply-To: <v02120d02b95d76e5e01b@EIM-Mac-1.5tcp>
Message-ID: <000601c22f3d$35669120$4800640a@isla.net>
Just imagine all the money to be spent in marketing to draw the same
amount of participation as a contest like the IARU.
I personally think that the conbination couldn't be better, obviously
under
Low solar activity the site chosen has to be in a location with
propagation advantages.
Maybe Puerto rico Who knows...
Felipe
NP4Z
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim George
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 4:18 AM
To: Mark Beckwith
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ideas for WRTC 2004
Interesting question.
First off, the WRTC needs to be in a warm climate. It would be tough
for
the station and antenna work to be in inclement weather. Second, the
WRTC
must be imbedded in some form of contest, otherwise, the rich enviroment
of
QSOs and multipliers available would not exist. In addition, the WRTC
is
the championship of contesting, and therefore it needs to be in a
contesting environment, with both modes available. The IARU is not any
of
the national contests, or regional. Realistically, that leaves the IARU
in
the summer (northern hemisphere)as the only alternative The IARU's 24
hour
length is a good compromise between the full 48 hours and shorter
durations. The 24 hour length is important from the consideration of
the
hosts and also the competitors and referees. From an overall
perspective,
the IARU is a good environment.
Jim N3BB
>Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
>
>Mark, N5OT
>
>
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>From dhenderson at arrl.org Fri Jul 19 14:26:00 2002
From: dhenderson@arrl.org (Henderson, Dan N1ND)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A couple of reminders about IARU Scores
Message-ID: <125490A005E3D3118C9C00805FC743CC044F918E@kahless.arrlhq.org>
A couple of items...
I. Many contesters sent the WRTC 2002 Committee their logs immediately
after the contest to assist in their adjudication of their event. Many of
those logs sent directly to WRTC were sent before the submitter did their
own "sanity check" on the entry. I have been asked by several stations that
sent their logs to the WRTC for their "early bird" logs to assist in score
of that event if I have received their log from the WRTC 2002 organizing
committee.
The administration of the IARU HF Contest is completely separate from the
WRTC 2002 officials. The WRTC Committee used the early submitted logs to
assist them with their adjudication of their event. They did not screen
logs for any of the information that is needed by the ARRL in order to
accurately report and adjudicate the IARU HF Contest. Receiving logs
directly from WRTC 2002 could leave the ARRL with logs that contained
problems, making them difficult or impossible to use for the official
contest results.
You must send in your IARU HF World Championship to either iaruhf@arrl.org
or iaruhf@iaru.org in order for your results to be included in the official
contest results.
The ARRL Contest Branch will not be receiving the "early bird" logs from
WRTC.
II. Several stations have questioned why the ARRL-SECTION: field is required
in the Cabrillo log header.
The ARRL administers the contest at no cost to the IARU or the other member
societies. The ARRL-SECTION: Field in the header allows us to do several
things which help result in a more accurate reporting of the results. The
ARRL issues awards to stations in the ARRL/RAC Field Organization based on
their official section. So for W/VE stations, we have to have the ARRL
section information in order to determine awards. The use of the term "DX"
in that field for DX stations allows us to sort non-W/VE logs into a
separate queue for processing, reporting, and for determining awards for
non-ARRL or RAC member society stations.
Thanks for your help.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
ARRL Contest Branch Manager
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Fri Jul 19 18:51:25 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
References: <200207191333.g6JDX05r008807@contesting.com>
<00f801c22f33$e4629a20$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <3D38519D.B9EAC57C@directvinternet.com>
Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
> I just did a search through some of the news archives. I wanted to see
> exactly what Chairman Powell was quoted as saying and in what context.
> Guess what? If this happened recently (and I checked as far back as March),
> no one seems to have reported it as a news item anywhere.
Well, I saw and read the entire comment also. It was a quote from
Chairman Powell. It very well be it was included in the ARRL letter
sent out every friday to those who subscribe.
Those who have mentioned this are very accurate in their reporting,
and it happened.
Why don't you query the ARRL about it if you are so unable to accept
the word of many
well known and respected hams?
And by the way, I would be very careful in quoting in the signature
file what is undoubably a highly guarded and copywrited commercial.
73
Ed
>From ad1c at yahoo.com Fri Jul 19 14:00:21 2002
From: ad1c@yahoo.com (Jim Reisert)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARLB044 The ARRL Board of Directors convenes July 19-21
in Windsor, Connecticut
Message-ID: <20020719200021.48868.qmail@web13603.mail.yahoo.com>
ZCZC AG44
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 44 ARLB044
>From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT July 19, 2002
To all radio amateurs
SB QST ARL ARLB044
ARLB044 The ARRL Board of Directors convenes July 19-21 in Windsor,
Connecticut
The ARRL Board of Directors convenes July 19-21 in Windsor,
Connecticut, for its mid-year meeting. Among the issues up for
consideration is whether to drop ''Section News'' and contest line
scores from QST and move them to the ARRL Web site. The Board
delayed a decision on the matter at its January meeting, saying it
wanted members to be aware of the reasons behind the proposal and to
evaluate alternative ideas.
Also up for discussion are preparations for World Radiocommunication
Conference 2003, including an update on efforts to secure a 300-kHz
worldwide amateur allocation at 40 meters.
Addressing Board members, guests and ARRL staff members July 18
prior to the formal Board session, FCC Special Counsel for
Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth said that while enforcement will be
''maintaining the course,'' he's hoping by year's end to mount ''a more
aggressive stance'' against 10-meter incursions by unlicensed
individuals. He said that using 10-meters was among the best
defenses against intruders. Hollingsworth also met with ARRL staff
members July 19 to discuss specific areas of concern and
cooperation.
Board members also will consider nominees for several ARRL-sponsored
awards.
NNNN
/EX
=====
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USA +978-251-9933, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.com
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>From kc1f at adelphia.net Fri Jul 19 21:04:31 2002
From: kc1f@adelphia.net (Stuart Santelmann)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UA1 antennas
Message-ID: <003101c22f57$319984c0$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Hello:
I just got back from WRTC as a referee, and 18 of us continued on to the
post-contest excursion to St. Petersburg in Russia. Some of us spotted some
BIG HF antennas on the roof of a several story building near the "Kissing
Bridge" (it's a long story), and I guess it's also near, or on top of the
Cadet School of something. We saw five or six element monobanders, plus
some other stuff. Anyone know what station this is ? Could it be RU1A ?
Although our tour guide knew everything about the art in the museums, she
didn't know from antennas, hi...
Thanks in advance... Stu KC1F
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 19 17:49:51 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Alleged Powell Statements
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020719164702.04fc36e0@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
For what it's worth, I have just searched the ARRL web site for any
reference to FCC Chairman Powell's comments on CW, without success. It
looks as if all the comments on the reflector are based on an original
message by Dave, K4JRB. Dave, can you pinpoint your source for us?
73, Pete N4ZR
>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Fri Jul 19 22:48:39 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] August CQ Magazine Online (sort of)
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020719204839.0073cbe8@pop.vnet.net>
I was searching CQ Magazine's site for an e-mail address
to check my subscription expiration and was quite surprised to
see several new features on the Website for the August issue which
includes the CQ WW SSB results:
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/August%202002%20Highlights.html
"Next, we've got the contest results themselves, with expanded results
here on the CQ website. These include: Expanded "QRM" (operator
comments); Station Operators at Multi-op Stations; Top Scores in Very
Active Zones; Zone Leaders (Single Op); and expanded Team
Contesting results."
Only the 'Expanded QRM' and 'Station Operators at Multi-op Stations'
hyperlinks are active at the moment but I assume the others will be
put online soon. I guess ARRL's expanded online reports have
stimulated CQ to do the same! Thanks CQ!
73, Bill W4ZV
P.S. Now I wonder when the CQ WW Contest Records will be updated?
Some of those records are now 2 years old:
http://www.cqww.com/intro.htm
>From n5nw at n5nw.org Fri Jul 19 18:39:43 2002
From: n5nw@n5nw.org (Marty N5NW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?)
References: <20020719133217.46920.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006a01c22f6e$0fd6ab30$3339a8c0@dayton.hospiceofdayton.org>
Don't be confused ... WRTC is an invitation-only event. Only 42 (41?)
stations participated.
IARU is a world wide "open" event.
We only participate in WRTC as contacts. Our log submissions were, for our
purposes, only checklogs.
The only awards I am aware of were prizes (somewhat random) for submitting a
checklog.
IARU will have rankings of all participants.
Hope this helps ...
de N5NW/8 (Marty)
Bellbrook, Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Anderson" <k9iua@yahoo.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 9:32 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?)
> I know I am one confused operator.
> I personally found the IARU and WRTC being on
> the same weekend to be very confusing. At times
> they were talked about in the same breath, and
> other times they are talked about separately.
> In the end I feel like I never really understood
> what went on this last weekend, particularly in
> understanding exactly what WRTC was and how these
> particular operators come to be associated.
>
> I still am largely a new contest operator, at
> least when compared to the experience level that
> most of you have acquired. I suspect that there
> are many other relatively new contestors who are
> confused by the dual (or is that combined?) IARU
> and WRTC contests on the same weekend. The
> sponsors of both could do much more to help
> clarify what is going on.
>
> Cheers/73,
> Kevin, K9IUA
>
>
> =====
> -------------------------------------
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> k9iua (at) yahoo (dot) com
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 19 18:55:27 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
Message-ID: <01aa01c22f6f$19eaf8a0$03010a0a@office1>
I was just informed of the recent response to my earlier post. Good thing I
went on-line to see it (I normally only get the digest), although the nature
of that reply is sad.
Since a personal, ah, response like that does not belong on the list but
should be handled direct, let me reply generically since there is some
mis-interpretation of my motive here:
I'm not saying that the quote is neccesarily wrong or inaccurate. Yeah, it
looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, but that doesn't neccesarily mean
it's a duck (it could be a silly rabbit in disguise). For that reason, and
considering the responses on it to date, I went looking for it -- and
couldn't find it.
Could I have missed it? Sure. That's one of the reasons I asked. But the
thing is, if you look at the news items on the ARRL Web Site, you'll notice
that most or all of the news items there end up in the weekly ARRL Letter in
some form or another. And you'd think something like this would qualify as
a news item, wouldn't it?
I've also noticed only the original post from K4JRB actually quotes from
this alleged meeting. Everyone else is replying to it. This is NOT, again,
to say that Dave is wrong -- far from it. But just because a lot of replies
included the original post is hardly the same thing as a bunch of us saying
"yeah, I read that too!"
My point originally was simply to FIND the original comments that Dave was
quoting from IN CONTEXT. Then evaluate the information and make up my own
mind. Otherwise we're dealing with information that is no more reliable
than another internet or urban myth.
So am I now to understand that if I don't agree with the vocal minority I'm
presumed to be against them? That's sad.
The key four questions were never answered: Who said it, who heard it, what
exactly was said, and when. Instead, I got slammed for raising them. That
alone says quite a lot, but let it rest. Suffice to say that if the biggest
argument that was made was criticizing my signature line... really.
Although this suddenly makes another one more relevant for the moment.
Does anyone know the facts, or are we just reacting to a tall tale?
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
I don't know guys, but something of this smells like a red herring that's
been left in the back seat of someone's car for a few days with the windows
up and the temperatures averaging the upper 90's (Farenheit, that is)
I just did a search through some of the news archives. I wanted to see
exactly what Chairman Powell was quoted as saying and in what context.
Guess what? If this happened recently (and I checked as far back as March),
no one seems to have reported it as a news item anywhere.
And isn't it curious that the original post states that this is a quote from
the "new FCC Chairman"? He's been FCC Chairman for quite some time now,
over a year I believe -- hardly new. And he's not mentioned by name.
Neither is the group of amateurs.
So before we jump off the handle and run around screaming at how unfair this
all is, or how it's inevitable, or how this is another ARRL plot to sell
more radios for the manufacturer's by giving us a worthless 5 MHz
allocation, or something else equally or moreso ridiculous, let's find out a
few things:
(a) Exactly who said this?
(b) Exactly when was it said?
(c) Exactly what was said?
(d) Exactly who was it said to?
If we don't know that, not only is this all wild speculation, but it has the
legitimacy of an anonymous email telling you to delete a file off your hard
drive calle AOL.EXE because it's an obvious virus that will destroy your
brain cells. Or something like that.
73, ron wn3vaw
"And they give you cash,
which is just as good as money!"
Yogi Berra, AFLAC Commercial, 2002
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Olinger, K2AV" <k2av@contesting.com>
To: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>,
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
They can be replaced. When that particular chairman is gone, we will
still be here, sending code. Sounds like he doesn't have enough work
to do.
It's kinda like them telling an old car collector to get his '60
Thunderbird off the road.
PSK31 is growing leaps and bounds, all by itself, no help needed from
the FCC, and CW will remain an art form for a long time.
Voice, anything narrower than SSB around? WHAT new voice mode?
73, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:30 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither.
> The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that its time for amateurs
to move
> to the new modes
> and leave what he considers are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL
agrees)
> that a mode such as PSK31 is superior to CW in weak signal
environments.
> Amateurs are working each other with QRP where signals are below the
noise
> threshold. Listen to the speaker and there is nothing!
>
> The FCC Chairman also stated that CW is no longer in use in DOD
applications
> and is rapidly disappearing in Commercial Marine communications.
>
> So are we getting in disfavor with the FCC by sticking to CW or SSB?
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
>
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 19 19:07:28 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] August CQ Magazine Online (sort of)
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20020719204839.0073cbe8@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020719180621.02456c80@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 09:48 PM 7/19/02 +0100, Bill Tippett wrote:
>I guess ARRL's expanded online reports have
>stimulated CQ to do the same! Thanks CQ!
But note that CQ is apparently reserving the line scores for the magazine,
while after this week's ARRL board meeting I think we can assume that line
scores in QST will be history.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From N5RP at pdq.net Fri Jul 19 23:37:33 2002
From: N5RP@pdq.net (Bob, N5RP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UA1 antennas
In-Reply-To: <003101c22f57$319984c0$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020719223701.009f80f0@pop.pdq.net>
At 20:04 7/19/02 +0100, Stuart Santelmann wrote:
>Hello:
>
> I just got back from WRTC as a referee, and 18 of us continued on to the
>post-contest excursion to St. Petersburg in Russia. Some of us spotted some
>BIG HF antennas on the roof of a several story building near the "Kissing
>Bridge" (it's a long story), and I guess it's also near, or on top of the
>Cadet School of something. We saw five or six element monobanders, plus
>some other stuff. Anyone know what station this is ?
===============>
Belongs to a Finnish businessman, as I remember.
Call, I do not know.
Bob Perring
...........................................
Amateur Radio Station N5RP
mailto:N5RP@pdq.net
N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
>From john-k1rc at juno.com Fri Jul 19 22:53:17 2002
From: john-k1rc@juno.com (john-k1rc@juno.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW or SSB FCC says neither
Message-ID: <20020719.215423.-312161.1.john-k1rc@juno.com>
On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:52:16 -0400 "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
writes:
> I don't know guys, but something of this smells like a red herring
> that's been left in the back seat of someone's car for a few days with
the
> windows up and the temperatures averaging the upper 90's (Farenheit,
that
> is)
> ===/Snip/===
Maybe Ron isn't so far off base. Lets look at it yet another way...
Could it be that someone is just testing the waters to see what
the overall the reaction would be, before (the illusive) "THEY"
try to slip some type of rule making to the commissioners
( maybe under the table, disguised in some other docket)?
Like a politician trying to find out what the people think of him
and his views before he sticks his neck out, running for office
and getting hacked to bits.
(Poor example but couldn't think of any other at the moment)
Maybe if this thread didn't generate as much debate, "THEY"
might think;
"These hams don't really care either way, whether we change
the rules, dump CW and SSB and force everyone to use digital
or other more modern modes.
So lets do it and "sock it to 'em" then tell them and listen to
them "whine"after its too late to do anything about it."
I could be wrong, but then again I could be right.......
Just my cynical 2 cents..
CU on the old modes, and any others I have capability for,
John K1RC
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>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Fri Jul 19 23:33:52 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WriteLog] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
Message-ID: <197.a00610a.2a6a2610@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/15/2002 6:16:11 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
n2nu@arrl.net writes:
> I worked three maritime mobile stations in the IARU test and logged them as
> xxnxxx/MM (e.g. SP2AVE/MM). In all cases, these were logged as 0 point
> contacts in my version of WriteLog. I cannot find any reference at all to
> MM stations in the rules, and I would think that these should be logged as
> 5 pointers since they were outside the continent and zone... In one case
> the station gave me a new zone multiplier (which the program counts), even
> though it was still logged as 0 points!
>
> Clarification on the rules, anyone?
>
John,
Did you get an answer to your question about /mm stations. We too worked two
/mm stations, and they were scored as 0 points by WL. One was UT1FG/MM in
zone 46 which did count as a zone multiplier.
73, Geo...
George I. Wagner, K5KG
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>From n5nw at n5nw.org Sat Jul 20 00:57:33 2002
From: n5nw@n5nw.org (Marty N5NW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?)
In-Reply-To: <NCBBIPEKMKEIENBFHFHJMENDFEAA.mjwetzel@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <NGBBIMJEELMGMFPMHEAGIEIFCBAA.n5nw@n5nw.org>
Sri for the error. 52 teams invited to play in WRTC, not 41 or 42 as
mentioned. Point still stands, though. The WRTC is for those guys -- the
rest of us are contact fodder. The IARU is that weekend's contest for the
rest of us.
de N5NW/8
>From rw4pl at mi.ru Sat Jul 20 05:54:22 2002
From: rw4pl@mi.ru (Andrey RW4PL)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UA1 antennas
Message-ID: <200207200454.g6K4sXF97828@mail.melt.ru>
Hello Stuart.
>From: "Stuart Santelmann" <kc1f@adelphia.net>
> We saw five or six element monobanders, plus
>some other stuff. Anyone know what station this is ? Could it be RU1A ?
>Although our tour guide knew everything about the art in the museums, she
>didn't know from antennas, hi...
> Thanks in advance... Stu KC1F
Please see about russian big gans on the : http://www.contest.ru/
Good luck!
Andrey. mail to rw4pl@mi.ru
rw4pl@mail.ru
>From lz4ax at psu.edu Sat Jul 20 02:33:19 2002
From: lz4ax@psu.edu (Alexander Avramov)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] UA 1 antennas
Message-ID: <00bb01c22fae$f55bbc00$15a7cb82@computer>
Yeah ! I'm glad to hear they are still there. I was in the same situation like
you exactly 17 years ago - staying on the bridge and staring at the roof -hi.
However, I had the advantage to be more or less fluent in russian and I even
made an attempt to go inside the building. As you can guess, the door keeper
wasn't very happy to see some 17-year old teenager speaking with strange accent
and asking even more strange questions about some stuff on the roof. So I was
told that it's too late (about 6PM) and there is nobody left which evidently
wasn't true -hi. That was my first and last attempt to get in touch with
russian HAMs during my stay there.
So, about your question - the antennas belong to RZ1AWT, the club station at
the State Institute of Aerospace Technology. It's not RU1A but if I'm not
mistaken RU1A team consists mostly of RZ1AWT members. RU1A is strictly a
contest site and is situated out of the sity, so I'm wondering why the
organizers of this excursion didn't arrange something with RU1A gang - it could
have been really interesting, at least this the biggest MS in this part of
Europe. Actually 2 guys from RU1A - RW1AC and RV1AW were among WRTC contesters.
Well, I hope you enjoyed your stay in the world's most beautiful city (sorry
Paris, you're still far behind) and you'll keep good memories of that.
73,
Alex LZ4AX/AA3AX
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Sat Jul 20 03:33:27 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] the Eagle and the TOad have landed
Message-ID: <01f601c22fb7$5ba8b960$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
A small group of about a dozen enthusiastic members and friends of the
Florida Contest Group met WC4 E and K1 TO as they landed in Tampa tonight -
I mean this morning...
WC4E was a referee at the WRTC in Finland this year and as we all know K1TO
was again co-champion with N5TJ...
The bleary eyed duo having been flying for 21 hours was greeted with posters
balloons and official hoopla!
Thanks to all the FCG members who made it out tonight - and stayed despite
their flight being delayed for over three hours...
I think they couldn't get off the ground in Philadelphia because the
Frankford Radio Club was plotting to steal K1TO away from the FCG - not a
chance!
Welcome Home Jeff The Ref and Dan The Man
K4FCG
>From yt3t at absolutok.net Sat Jul 20 09:32:00 2002
From: yt3t@absolutok.net (Kele YT3T)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: UA1 antennas
References: <200207200238.g6K2c25r019631@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <002601c22fb7$30615140$9be45d50@jstajcic>
> Cadet School of something. We saw five or six element monobanders, plus
> some other stuff. Anyone know what station this is ? Could it be RU1A ?
<kc1f>
Hi Stu,
if you have ever checked score submissions by RU1A, you would not make such
underestimates of their antennas.
It is obvious that, when using indoor dipole made of copper tape sticked to
the window, one forgets that EVEN UA1 can run 4x5 ele H framed stacked yagis
on 15m band, or monster 40m yagi... :-)
73 Kele YU1AO
(WRTC 2K ref to Geo & Jeff)
http://QSLL.com
>From K7LXC at aol.com Sat Jul 20 06:06:30 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC vs. IARU
Message-ID: <4FAE9C1D.4C1DF043.0000DB5D@aol.com>
In a message dated Fri, 19 Jul 2002 3:18:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
n3bb@mindspring.com writes:
> >Why does the WRTC need to be wedded to the IARU Radiosport?
Hmm, I think the answer is very simple. The original WRTC was held in
conjuction with the Goodwill Games which was held in Seattle in July, 1990.
That was the only window of opportunity that could have allowed the Russian
guys to attend. We on the organizing committee approached the ITU for some sort
of special multiplier status but they weren't interested. So then we decided to
have a separate contest which was very problematic because we were giving a
party and didn't know if anyone would show up. Fortunately people came and it
all turned out great.
The current WRTC events perhap are more historically tied to a July
timeframe from the beginning and coincidentally the IARU test fits the bill
from a WRTC standpoint.
I have to chuckle about the previously posted analytical comments of 'why
the IARU' because originally we didn't consider them - we just made it up as we
went along!
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
WRTC Seattle Co-Chairman
WRTC Sanctiong Committee Chairman
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Sat Jul 20 08:34:16 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Cleanup
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKEAIDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Folks....
Both my laptop and my 756pro acquired an overspray of OFF,
from the overnight gang at field day. Mostly on the major
caseworks...not display or knobs/keyboard, for the most part.
Any thoughts about cleaning techniques?
The alcohol impregnated screen cleaner wipes don't budge it.
Am about to try a damp cloth with a bit of soap....with an
alcohol wipe follow-up.
Ideas most welcome.
Jim/N2EA
>From okomdxc at radioamater.cz Sat Jul 20 14:47:59 2002
From: okomdxc@radioamater.cz (OK-OM DX Contest Committee)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] OK-OM DX Contest 2001 - filnal results available
Message-ID: <128282581.20020720134759@radioamater.cz>
Dr. OM!
Final results of OK-OM DX Contest 2001 are available at
http://okomdx.radioamater.cz.
Log checking engine is made by Zdenek, OK1DSZ
(webmaster@radioamater.cz), all thanks to him!
In case of any questions please be patient, it's time of holidays...
I will be QRV since 1st of August.
73!
Martin Huml
OK1FUA, in the contests: OL5Y, IH9/OL5Y, IH9P, S586U (WRTC 2000), 9A0A
OK-OM DX Contest director
OKOMDXC@radioamater.cz
http://okomdx.radioamater.cz
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Sat Jul 20 09:11:19 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WriteLog] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
Message-ID: <7e.2ac95273.2a6aad67@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/20/2002 11:48:56 AM Greenwich Standard Time,
cwman@juno.com writes:
> I sent a reply to John. Wasn't there something in the rules about R1 and R2
> (Region 1 and Region 2)?
>
Here is what the IARU rules say:
8. Multipliers: The total number of ITU zones plus IARU member society HQ
stations worked on each band (not mode.) IARU officials represent a maximum
of four multipliers per band (AC, R1, R2 and R3).
So, R1, R2 and R3 are IARU officials, like PA0LOU, not ITU regions of the
world.
Seems to me that /mm stations should score 1, 3 or 5 points, depending on
their location in or out of your zone/continent.
73, Geo...
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
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>From k4bai at worldnet.att.net Sat Jul 20 09:54:34 2002
From: k4bai@worldnet.att.net (John T. Laney, III)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WriteLog] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
References: <197.a00610a.2a6a2610@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3D395D8A.44EDA09B@worldnet.att.net>
This is an interesting question and deserves an answer. I doubt that
there are any zero point QSOs intended for the contest. If /MM
contacts were not permitted, it would be impossible to work some of the
IARU zones since many are wholly water. However, it is not worth
worrying a lot about since in the Cabrillo format, the only thing that
is really important is that the logchecking software scores it right.
73, John, K4BAI.
>From k9iua at yahoo.com Sat Jul 20 06:53:10 2002
From: k9iua@yahoo.com (Kevin Anderson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] THANKS (Re: I know I'm confused (Re: Why IARU?))
Message-ID: <20020720125310.51513.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com>
Thanks to Marty and the other folks that replied
to me off-line with further information about
both the IARU and WRTC contests this last weekend.
I am no longer confused about this particular
combination. However, nobody did answer to me
how the particular teams were picked. I will
assume it was the Finnish club that organized
the WRTC event based on their sense of who the
top contest operators are around the world. I
also gather that there are some old rivalries
here that go back a few years :-).
Cheers/73,
Kevin, K9IUA
=====
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k9iua (at) yahoo (dot) com
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>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 20 08:38:31 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Georgia QSO Party Today
Message-ID: <20020720143831.33779.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com>
Hope to see everyone take some time and work all us down in Georgia in
the GQP. The contest starts at 18:00 UTC (2 PM EDT). There will be at
least 6 rovers on that I know about . See
http://gqp.contesting.com/rover_plans.htm . The rules along with any
files you need for the contest are on the GQP website at
http://gqp.contesting.com.
73's Jeff KU8E
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>From k4bai at worldnet.att.net Sat Jul 20 11:53:48 2002
From: k4bai@worldnet.att.net (John T. Laney, III)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Georgia QSO Party today and tomorrow
Message-ID: <3D39797C.7C81C144@worldnet.att.net>
Hello all:
To borrow from K4OJ, just three hours until the annual Georgia QSO Party
kicks off. It appears we will have 8 to 10 mobiles out running our 159
counties as well as other fixed and portable stations. All info is
available at http://gqp.contesting.com including proposed county routes
for 6 of the mobiles, inlcuding K4BAI/M. Please join in the fun as your
time and conditions permit. Many plaques and more certificates will be
awarded in categories of QRP, low and high power.
73,
John, K4BAI for SECC and SEDXC.
>From jukka.klemola at nokia.com Sat Jul 20 01:02:10 2002
From: jukka.klemola@nokia.com (jukka.klemola@nokia.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score .. OI2HQ claimed so far
Message-ID: <8EA8FEF9E96FAB4099D8B01D8412CB68B12DE0@saebe004.NOE.Nokia.com>
Hi Folks,
>From OI2HQ point of view the U.S. main consultants to
reach the succes might be:
K1CC, K1EA, K9GX, N2NC, N6TV & W2GD ..
Thanks for your participation Rich, Ken, Mark, John, Bob & John.
For me, this was The Once-In-a-Lifetime opportunity to orchestrate this kind of
a team of the Luciano Pavarottis of the Ham World to something seemingly nobody
expected.
OI2HQ claimed so far is 18.588.591Mpoints, with
427 mult, 12395 QSO.
Band QSO Qpoints points/QSO Z HQ
160 239 599 2.51 7 19
80 1102 2714 2.46 24 29
40 1929 5807 3.01 37 38
20 5061 19355 3.82 54 50
15 3152 12338 3.91 57 52
10 912 2720 2.98 28 32
---------------------------------------------------
Totals 12395 43533 3.51 207 220
This is not necessarily our final claimed as there is still
a potential issue in a log that may bring us more QSOs.
Computer networks can do anything !
OI2HQ list of Operators:
DJ2QV Maik 160m & 20SSB,
OH9MM Juha 160m,
UA3AB Andy 80SSB
OH5LF kari 80SSB
G4JVG Steve 80CW, 40SSB, 10CW
G4VXE Tim 80CW, 40SSB, 10CW
UX1UA Sergei 80CW, 40SSB, 10CW
OH3WW Hannu 40CW
K1CC Rich 20SSB
N2NC John 20SSB
P43E Emily 20SSB
K1EA Ken 20CW, 10SSB
N6TV Bob 20CW, 10SSB
W2GD John 20CW, 10SSB
S56A Mario 15CW
OH6QU Jari 15CW (&15SSB mult spotting)
OH6BG Jari 15CW
K9GX Mark 15SSB
OH8VJ Pentti 15SSB
There are at least 2 European HQ stations within a couple of per cent in the
score.
Log checking will be as exciting in this one as was for WRTC!
..despite The WRTC was more intense & fast & real life with just 30 hours after
contest top ten publication..
73,
Jukka, OH6LI,
PS. QRV this weekend atop Geta Mountain, OH0V location as OH0JJS.
Mainly 10104 kHz.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Dennis McAlpine [mailto:dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net]
> Sent: 19 July, 2002 18:26
> To: Jim White, K4OJ; 3830@contesting.com; CQ-Contest@contesting.com;
> ctdxcc@kkn.net; Richard L. King
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
>
>
> Yes, Jim, this year's ARRL HQ stations moved things up a bit
> but look at
> some of the Europeans and their geographic diversification.
> Following their
> example, why shouldn't we have stations spread out all over
> the country,
> e.g. K1EA, N2RM, W3LPL, W4MYA, etc. In fact, given the
> geographic range,
> why not have multiple statins on the same band, e.g. a W6 on
> 80 at the same
> time as a W2. OK, so you can't have multiple statios on the
> same band. How
> about a half hour from the East, then a half hour from
> midwest, then a half
> hour from west coast and keep repeating the process. Tht
> would allow us to
> use 36 different stations (6 bands X 2 modes x 3 stations per mode).
> Imagine merging those logs.
>
> 73,
> Dennis K2SX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim White, K4OJ" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: <3830@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>;
> <ctdxcc@kkn.net>;
> "Richard L. King" <k5na@texas.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
>
>
> > Congratulations on a great job representing the USA, Rich.
> >
> > The Florida Contest Group had a blast two years ago as
> W1AW/4- you have
> > taken it to the next level for team USA by interconnecting multiple
> sites -
> > hats off to you and W5XD - great achievement - cannot
> imagine all the
> > screens in sync at the end of the contest from 6 different
> sites - WOW!
> > Talk about knowing who to pass and where to pass them!!!!!
> >
> > ...this was not do-able two years ago but now is history - very very
> cool -
> > this is the current level - what will be next? The HQ
> Radiosport station
> > offers an opportunity to do this kind of thing (multiple
> sites) that no
> > other contest can - and as contesters we all love using
> technology to
> stuff
> > our envelopes to the point of breaking, hi! I know that
> the logistics of
> > two years ago were tough - sure would have been nice to gab
> to "anyone
> > anywhere" on the network!
> >
> > Go Team USA!
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Jim, K4OJ
> >
> > & THE Florida Contest Group
> >
> > FCG #1 WRTC02 - N5TJ + K1TO
> > FCG #4 WRTC02 - N6MJ + N2NL
> >
> >
> > ...from Sunny Florida where we are awaiting the return from
> WRTC in Europe
> > of our President, Dan, K1TO (co- #1) and VP Jeff, WC4E (a referee)
> >
> >
> > Should the opportunity to operate one of these affairs ever become
> available
> > again I would jump at the chance - it was as they say "a
> hoot" - being a
> > unique multiplier by just jumping in your car to go to the local MM
> > station....neat.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Richard L. King <k5na@texas.net>
> > To: <3830@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>;
> <ctdxcc@kkn.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:42 PM
> > Subject: [3830] W1AW/5 ARRL HQ Score
> >
> >
> > > 2002 IARU Contest
> > >
> > > W1AW/5 ARRL Headquarters Station
> > >
> > > Location - Central Texas (Austin, Texas area)
> > >
> > > CW Phone
> > > Total
> > > Band QSOs Points QSOs Points
> QSOs
> > > Points Mults
> > >
> > > 160 177 375 156 296
> 333
> > > 671 11
> > > 80 329 771 444 1048
> 773
> > > 1819 27
> > > 40 824 2545 760 1778
> 1584
> > > 4323 55
> > > 20 1594 5966 2319 7522
> 3913
> > > 13488 87
> > > 15 1274 4766 1585 5339
> 2859
> > > 10105 92
> > > 10 402 1098 467 1277
> 869
> > > 2375 39
> > >
> > > Total 4600 15521 5731 17260
> 10331
> > > 32781 311
> > >
> > > Claimed Score: 32,781 x 311 = 10,194,891
> > >
> > > This past year has been a busy one here in Central Texas while we
> prepared
> > > for W1AW/5. Though we were given the W1AW/5 assignment
> over 3 years ago,
> > > the planning got started in seriousness a year ago
> immediately after the
> > > 2001 IARU.
> > >
> > > Six of the premier Central Texas stations agreed to
> participate - K5NA,
> > > K5TR, N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT. Each of these stations
> could have
> been
> > a
> > > powerhouse on any of the bands or modes but the assignments were:
> > >
> > > K5NA - 80M CW, 40M CW, & 15M SSB.
> > > K5TR - 80M SSB & 20M SSB
> > > N5CQ - 10M CW
> > > N5TW - 160M CW & 20M CW.
> > > NX5M - 160M SSB & 10M SSB.
> > > W5KFT - 40M SSB & 15M SSB
> > >
> > > W5XD wrote a special version of WriteLog for use by the
> headquarters
> > > stations. Basically the new version allowed us to connect
> to a central
> > > Internet server that fed QSOs back to all the W1AW/5
> sites in real-time.
> > > Each site could always tell what QSOs and mults each of the other
> > band/mode
> > > sites needed. The software also fed the frequencies of
> the radios back
> to
> > > everyone to allow each station to move QSOs to other bands easily.
> > >
> > > We had a total of about 15 computers set up at all the
> sites and each
> > ended
> > > up with the same QSO and multiplier numbers at the end of
> the contest.
> The
> > > software was really awesome.
> > >
> > > The 24 hours of the IARU were noisy because Central Texas
> was being hit
> > > with wave after wave of thunderstorms. This condition
> caused high QRM on
> > > all the bands and especially affected the low bands. The
> thunderstorms
> had
> > > been occurring for several days before the contest and
> there was a lot
> of
> > > flooding in the area. But no W1AW/5 sites were affected
> by flooding. The
> > > rain static and thunderstorms were another matter.
> > >
> > > The thunderstorms forced the N5TW, NX5M, & W5KFT sites to
> shut down at
> > > different times during the contest as thunder cells
> passed by. Since the
> > > logging system was real-time and current at all the sites, it was
> possible
> > > for other sites to start working the vacated band/modes almost
> immediately
> > > after the affected stations were shut down. A lot of cell
> phone calls
> were
> > > made to coordinate this. Later the band/modes were
> switched back to the
> > > original stations.
> > >
> > > Our goal was to beat the old W1AW/p record set by W1AW/4 in 2000.
> However,
> > > 10 meters just didn't have much in the way of good
> conditions here and
> we
> > > fell a little short. With sun spots going down, the
> W1AW/4 record may
> > stand
> > > for a few years. Our secondary goal was to beat NU1AW and
> the other
> > > headquarters stations. But I haven't heard any other
> official HQ scores
> > yet.
> > >
> > > All the stations owners and operators had a great time
> doing this. It
> was
> > > great fun.
> > >
> > > Thanks to the K1ZZ and the ARRL for allowing us to do
> W1AW/5 in this
> > > contest. Also thanks to W5XD for his work developing his terrific
> software
> > > to support our effort and to AB5K for the special telnet node used
> > > exclusively by all the W1AW/5 stations.
> > >
> > > There will be more detailed information and breakdowns of
> the W1AW/5
> > effort
> > > available on the net very soon.
> > >
> > > 73, Richard - K5NA
> > >
> > > k5na@texas.net
> > >
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>From dick.green at valley.net Sat Jul 20 16:53:56 2002
From: dick.green@valley.net (Dick Green)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020709212132.009bc940@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <EMEKIMJIEGNGMKHFDEGIIEEMCPAA.dick.green@valley.net>
Dave,
Took me a while to get around to replying, but thanks for the observations.
If you read my IARU post, the 40-2CD performed very well under battle
conditions. Atmospheric noise was too high for S-meter comparisons, but I
felt louder on the 40-2CD and never got asked for a repeat. The 4-square was
a little less effective in that regard. The 40-square was a little quieter,
but I ended up using the 580' NE beverage when the noise got real bad. The
big surprise was that the 40-2CD was the same 5-15dB louder to VK2. Guess
the 4-square's angle advantage isn't worth 5.5 dB in the summertime. I'll be
checking that as we get into fall and winter.
I ended up using the 4-square almost exclusively for S&P on the second
radio. It's more than adequate for that purpose. You can't beat the instant
direction switching and deep F/B. It might be worth sweeping the band every
now and then with the 40-2CD to pick up real weak ones.
I modeled the 40-2CD at 50', 75', and 120', and that tells a pretty good
story as well. The gain is comparable, but the angle is 36 degrees at 50',
25 degrees at 75' and 15 degrees at 120'. I imagine that makes a heck of a
difference and will be raising the 40-2CD tower to 75 feet before the fall
contests. The F/B was somewhat better the higher you go, too, but nowhere
near the 4-square.
I really do think it's a different story on 80M and 160M. I've had excellent
results with the 80M 4-squares at K1RX and KT1V. For most of us, we just
can't get a yagi up high enough on those bands. The 4-square has a
tremendous advantage in that regard: as long as you've got the real estate,
can figure out how to raise 65-foot verticals (or top-loaded verticals), and
are willing to spend some time dealing with radials, then there's nothing
better. I use a delta loop at 75' on 80M and it beats the old inverted-vee
by a mile, but it's nowhere near as effective as a 4-square.
73, Dick WC1M
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David A. Pruett [mailto:k8cc@comcast.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:45 PM
> To: dick.green@valley.net; CONTEST
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 4-square vs 40-2CD
>
>
> Dick,
>
> Thanks for sharing your observations on your 40M four-square vs. a
> 40-2CD. My only caveat is to keep in mind that the comparison you make
> during the summer will not always jibe with the same comparison in
> winter. Radiation angles tend to be higher in the summer which
> would favor
> the low yagi over the verticals. Your observation about the gain of a
> four-square being 6 dB *over a vertical* which makes it about even with a
> dipole over ground is absolutely correct. However, its not the
> entire story.
>
> We've been using a wire four-square on 80M here at K8CC since
> 1994. We've
> had just about every kind of 80M DX antenna here at this
> location: slopers,
> delta loops, bobtails, half-squares, a 3L wire yagi and even a beautiful
> N4ZC-style log periodic with the center at 110' and the ends at
> 90'. It's
> my opinion (and shared by my guest operators) that none of these antennas
> match the four-square, at least on 80M when you're limited to
> 120' supports.
>
> That is not to say that the others were bad antennas. The simple little
> half-square made UN2L's "loud LP 80M signals" list one year. The
> wire yagi
> and N4ZC log periodic made lots of gain and were great pileup
> crashers. But until we put up the four-square we couldn't hear
> down to the
> weak layer of EU necessary to be able to run successfully on CW from
> W8. Once we put up the four-square, the results were immediately
> noticable
> on our 80M line score, and our 80M op was a lot happier too.
>
> Again, I agree with your observation that verticals (and hence,
> four-squares) don't radiate as much signal as a dipole over ground. I've
> often found, particularly on 75 SSB that with the four-square we can hear
> more DX stations than we can work. With northern Europeans particularly,
> I'll call and call a perfectly copiable SM or OH and not even get a QRZ?
> from them. My gut says if I could run about four or five KW output the
> transmit signal from the four-square would match the ability to
> receive. However, my conscience won't let me do that...
>
> A couple of years ago K3LR (who has a great 80M four-square made from
> Hy-Towers) decided to try some big horizontal antennas like a
> W2PV 2L quad
> and a 3L linear-loaded yagi. Perhaps he'd like to share his observations
> here on the reflector, but neither antenna replaced his four-square.
>
> Finally, the answer for 80M might be different than for 40M...
>
> 73,
>
> Dave/K8CC
>
>
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Sat Jul 20 17:02:10 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [WriteLog] Maritime Mobile Stations in IARU Test?
Message-ID: <88.1b437464.2a6b1bc2@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/20/2002 12:53:31 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
k4bai@worldnet.att.net writes:
> However, it is not worth
> worrying a lot about since in the Cabrillo format, the only thing that
> is really important is that the logchecking software scores it right.
>
Hi, John,
Yes, /mm contacts are certainly legitimate contacts, and should be worth
points. I would like WL to score them correctly. You are correct, however,
about it not being a Cabrillo file issue.
73, Geo...
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
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941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From w7why at harborside.com Sat Jul 20 23:49:11 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] August CQ Magazine Online (sort of)
References: <1.5.4.32.20020719204839.0073cbe8@pop.vnet.net>
Message-ID: <3D39DAD7.DFF1E651@harborside.com>
Bill Tippett wrote:
>
> I was searching CQ Magazine's site for an e-mail address
> to check my subscription expiration and was quite surprised to
> see several new features on the Website for the August issue which
> includes the CQ WW SSB results:
Hi Bill
Not bad. And you don't have to be a "member" to read what's on
their website. 73
Tom W7WHY
>From thompson at mindspring.com Sat Jul 20 21:23:03 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clarification CW, SSB and the FCC
Message-ID: <00bf01c2304d$fbe37c80$fe2745cf@default>
First off the person who heard this comment was a retired FCC Engineer (then
called a FOB Chief Engineer). He was with a group of visiting hams. This
was about 1 year ago when the FCC Chairman was new. My take it was a
challenge statement not a statement to abandon CW and SSB.
The retired Engineer also said lip service was paid to emergency service
too. I think from this we can gather the feeling inside the FCC (except
for Riley??).
I also brought this up again (I mentioned it last year on another reflector)
as I want to bring us back to the real world and the thread about CW versus
SSB is non productive! If you like one mode or the other then no matter
what is said you won't change your mind.
I also found out that several don't believe that digital (from RTTY to PSK
31 et al) is really amateur radio. I seem to remember the diehard AMers
saying that about SSB 40 years ago.
And Phone man Lew McCoy had to tread lightly at ARRL in the early 1950's as
the General manager was CW forever and only!
Back to contesting!
73 Dave K4JRB
>From eric at k3na.org Sun Jul 21 08:00:21 2002
From: eric@k3na.org (Eric Scace K3NA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
In-Reply-To: <000001c22a11$87cf0fe0$b69ffea9@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <NEBBJKPCLKFDODKNIPHKOECGGKAA.eric@k3na.org>
I have done this for several contests. There are two basic solutions:
a) Use two computers: one for logging and one to control the Kachina. This is
preferred as it eliminates the need to change window
focus between radio and logging software, a major impediment to S&P operation.
Furthermore, there are SERIOUS keyboard conflicts
between the two applications; e.g., F1 in many logging software packages sends
the CQ message... while F1 on a Kachina shifts the
radio to a memory frequency and obliterates what you were doing! Keeping the
applications on separate machines reduces (but does
not eliminate) these kinds of cockpit errors.
This recommendation goes double if you are using a tuning knob. The knob
goes dead when the Kachina software does not have the
keyboard focus.
b) If you must use only one computer, you should practice a lot in advance. It
is also worthwhile to obtain and configure a
keyboard macro utility, to replace some of the multi-step sequences one will
need to switch around the various applications. Think
creatively.
-- Eric K3NA
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dennis McAlpine
Sent: 2002 July 13 Sat 03:59
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Cc: Japha, Tony
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
My friend N2UN, who lives in an antenna deprived part of NYC, has successfully
managed to put up an R-7000 vertical antenna at his
office. He is talking to a Kachina at his office from his apartment via the
phone lines and using some x-10 devices to turn the
power on and off.
Now like any good contester, Tony is trying how to use this remotely activated
station in a contest. His question is how do you use
the Kachina operating software at thesame time as a contest logging program,
e.g. WriteLog, CT, NA, etc. Has anyone had any
experience with this probem and how did you do it?
Thanks for the help. It mayget another station on the air for us all to work.
73,
Dennis, K2SX
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>From btippett at alum.mit.edu Sun Jul 21 12:58:40 2002
From: btippett@alum.mit.edu (Bill Tippett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clarification CW, SSB and the FCC
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20020721105840.00cc3fd4@pop.vnet.net>
K4JRB wrote:
>First off the person who heard this comment was a retired FCC Engineer (then
called a FOB Chief Engineer). He was with a group of visiting hams. This
was about 1 year ago when the FCC Chairman was new. My take it was a
challenge statement not a statement to abandon CW and SSB.
Original statement: "The new FCC Chairman told a group of hams that
its time for amateurs to move to the new modes and leave what he considers
are obsolete modes. He said (and ARRL agrees) that a mode such as PSK31
is superior to CW in weak signal environments."
"Obsolete" is a very strong word which the dictionary defines as:
1.No longer in use: an obsolete word.
2.Outmoded in design, style, or construction: an obsolete locomotive.
Neither CW nor SSB is obsolete; in fact, both are far superior to any of
the new digital modes at rapidly communicating information between
many different stations under extreme conditions. In fact, PSK31 has
NOT been proven to be superior to CW in weak signal environments IMHO.
PSK31, WSJT, QRSS, etc are superior ONLY if you know the exact frequency
to tune your receiver to the signal buried in noise. Without this
critical information (either from a prearranged schedule or via the
Internet), they cannot magically extract signals from noise. Can you
imagine a contest where you tune your receiver but cannot hear the
signals? I don't think so.
I think it always is in our interest to challenge factually
incorrect statements, especially if they are attributed to someone who
is in a position to affect us. What we need is more education of our
officials and maybe a little more critical thinking before accepting as
gospel some of their pronouncements. In this case, I think it remains
to be proven exactly what Chairman Powell actually said.
"I also found out that several don't believe that digital
(from RTTY to PSK 31 et al) is really amateur radio." That is not
what was said. What I said was "I personally do not think a
computer-to-computer 'QSO' means much". I specifically meant when
neither station can hear the other station (with their own ears),
and I'll stand by my statement. To me, a QSO like this is just like
nets where the Netmeister tells each side of the QSO "Good Contact"
when in fact neither station can hear the other. The only difference
is our computers have replaced the Netmeister!
73, Bill W4ZV
>From ww3s at zoominternet.net Sun Jul 21 09:21:22 2002
From: ww3s@zoominternet.net (Jamie WW3S)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W9XT card for sale
Message-ID: <005f01c230b1$20b9fe40$6601a8c0@zoominternet.net>
For Sale: W9XT voice keyer card and homebrew cable for 8 pin Kenwood.
Includes original manual.Cable has ptt jack, mic in, 8 pin mic ou, cw key
out. This is one of the original models; can't remember if 16 or 20 seconds
of audio. 75.00 +shipping. Paypal preferred; money order or check ok. 73
Jamie WW3S
>From k9iua at yahoo.com Sun Jul 21 07:19:34 2002
From: k9iua@yahoo.com (Kevin Anderson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Thanks again (re WRTC team selection...)
Message-ID: <20020721131934.26525.qmail@web14707.mail.yahoo.com>
Thanks again to the eight or so who replied
off-line to my followup question regarding
WRTC team selection. Obviously next time I
will be more aware of what the e-mail traffic
means when it comes time for WRTC team member
selections. (Being confused about what WRTC
was in the first place meant that I was
unable to put in context the "hundreds of
e-mails" on CQ-Contest on team selection -
my failure I guess :-).
Cheers/73,
Kevin, K9IUA
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>From w7why at harborside.com Sun Jul 21 17:25:26 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clarification CW, SSB and the FCC
References: <00bf01c2304d$fbe37c80$fe2745cf@default>
Message-ID: <3D3AD266.C214F959@harborside.com>
"David L. Thompson" wrote:
> I also found out that several don't believe that digital (from >RTTY to PSK
> 31 et al) is really amateur radio.
Hi Dave et al
Maybe not so much now, but when I first got into rtty it was
definitely amateur radio. Everyone built their own equipment,
scrounged old machines to get going, etc. I got started with an
old Model 14 strip printer and a 555 op-amp TU that I built.
Then moved up to a ST-5 (homebrew) then a DT-600 (also homebrew).
Almost everyone was using stuff they modified or built
themselves. The first SAC contest I worked I used a Model 15 and
Model 14 reperf. Made 125 Q's with 25 countries and made WAC in
that contest. Most of the guys operating RTTY now are guys that
have been around for a while. PSK--now that's a different story
:-( 73
Tom W7WHY
>From k2av at contesting.com Sun Jul 21 13:45:42 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
References: <NEBBJKPCLKFDODKNIPHKOECGGKAA.eric@k3na.org>
Message-ID: <009001c230d6$0dbf9870$0500a8c0@swift>
Understand.
Where do you put the two monitors? What kind and size are they?
Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Scace K3NA" <eric@k3na.org>
To: "Dennis McAlpine" <dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net>; "Cq-Contest"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 7:00 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
> I have done this for several contests. There are two basic
solutions:
>
> a) Use two computers: one for logging and one to control the
Kachina. This is preferred as it eliminates the need to change window
> focus between radio and logging software, a major impediment to S&P
operation. Furthermore, there are SERIOUS keyboard conflicts
> between the two applications; e.g., F1 in many logging software
packages sends the CQ message... while F1 on a Kachina shifts the
> radio to a memory frequency and obliterates what you were doing!
Keeping the applications on separate machines reduces (but does
> not eliminate) these kinds of cockpit errors.
>
> This recommendation goes double if you are using a tuning knob.
The knob goes dead when the Kachina software does not have the
> keyboard focus.
>
> b) If you must use only one computer, you should practice a lot in
advance. It is also worthwhile to obtain and configure a
> keyboard macro utility, to replace some of the multi-step sequences
one will need to switch around the various applications. Think
> creatively.
>
> -- Eric K3NA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dennis McAlpine
> Sent: 2002 July 13 Sat 03:59
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Cc: Japha, Tony
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
>
>
> My friend N2UN, who lives in an antenna deprived part of NYC, has
successfully managed to put up an R-7000 vertical antenna at his
> office. He is talking to a Kachina at his office from his apartment
via the phone lines and using some x-10 devices to turn the
> power on and off.
>
> Now like any good contester, Tony is trying how to use this remotely
activated station in a contest. His question is how do you use
> the Kachina operating software at thesame time as a contest logging
program, e.g. WriteLog, CT, NA, etc. Has anyone had any
> experience with this probem and how did you do it?
>
> Thanks for the help. It mayget another station on the air for us
all to work.
>
> 73,
>
> Dennis, K2SX
>
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>From w9sz at prairienet.org Sun Jul 21 12:58:50 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clarification CW, SSB and the FCC
In-Reply-To: <3D3AD266.C214F959@harborside.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207211148540.3915-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Tom Osborne wrote:
>
>
> "David L. Thompson" wrote:
>
> > I also found out that several don't believe that digital (from >RTTY to PSK
> > 31 et al) is really amateur radio.
>
> Hi Dave et al
>
> Maybe not so much now, but when I first got into rtty it was
> definitely amateur radio. Everyone built their own equipment,
> scrounged old machines to get going, etc. I got started with an
> old Model 14 strip printer and a 555 op-amp TU that I built.
> Then moved up to a ST-5 (homebrew) then a DT-600 (also homebrew).
> Almost everyone was using stuff they modified or built
> themselves. The first SAC contest I worked I used a Model 15 and
> Model 14 reperf. Made 125 Q's with 25 countries and made WAC in
> that contest. Most of the guys operating RTTY now are guys that
> have been around for a while. PSK--now that's a different story
> :-( 73
> Tom W7WHY
I have been active on RTTY, PSK31, MFSK16, Hellschreiber, etc. and I
really don't see any difference in what is actually done with any of these
modes. Some are wider in spectrum, some are narrower, some get through
better than others - but it's basically typing the information back and
forth and watching it appear on a screen instead of listening to it. You
still have to see the screen in real time and reply in real time.
I don't see any difference in how to conduct a QSO on RTTY or PSK31. The
only difference is the equipment used. Most RTTY stations these days use
computers. It's still fun.
I consider "radio" to be anything that is propagated between two antennas,
regardless of the mode it uses. If it goes from a transmitter to an
antenna, propagates by free space, ionosphere, tropo ducting, FAI, EME or
whatever and is received at another antenna, it's radio.
73, Zack W9SZ
>From bob.wruble at verizon.net Sun Jul 21 23:56:33 2002
From: bob.wruble@verizon.net (Bob Wruble)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] speaking of parts prices...
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20020718153646.00a5f9a0@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <011401c23144$88c3ddb0$bcee3d04@bobhome>
a mouse recently chewed the ear muff on my new pro-set boom
mike set. i sent it to heil for repair. they did it quickly and charged me
$8. a fair price in my mind!! de w7gg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] speaking of parts prices...
> What's with Heil? They used to have a good reputation for providing small
> parts reasonably, but I recently bought a boom clip and a pair of earpads
> for a BM-10 from them. The charge was $5.00 for each item, plus $3.00
S&H,
> and they arrived USPS in a box with 60 cents postage on it. Yes, I know
> about the cost of handling small orders, but I think these prices have it
> built in several times over...
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Jul 22 02:56:22 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K1TO and WC4E arrive in Tampa - pix on website below
Message-ID: <01ec01c23144$83bc7b60$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
...for shots of how we treat our WRTC Champion please go to the following
website and scroll down - Welcome Home Dan K1TO ( and Jeff, the Ref, WC4E ).
...check out the West Central Florida ARRL Division website for the piece on
the return of Dit and Dahs
http://www.wcfarrl.org/smcol.html
...unfortunately, fourth place (second US) finisher N2NL flew home into the
other coast immediately after WRTC and we couldn't do the same for him!
Congratulations From All of The Florida Contest Group and thanks team
WRTC2002 Finland for putting on such a fine show.
K4FCG
>From eric at k3na.org Mon Jul 22 08:10:39 2002
From: eric@k3na.org (Eric Scace K3NA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
In-Reply-To: <009001c230d6$0dbf9870$0500a8c0@swift>
Message-ID: <NEBBJKPCLKFDODKNIPHKGEFHGKAA.eric@k3na.org>
Two laptops were used.
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Guy Olinger, K2AV
Sent: 2002 July 21 Sun 12:46
To: eric@k3na.org; Dennis McAlpine; Cq-Contest
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
Understand.
Where do you put the two monitors? What kind and size are they?
Guy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Scace K3NA" <eric@k3na.org>
To: "Dennis McAlpine" <dennis.mcalpine@verizon.net>; "Cq-Contest"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 7:00 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
> I have done this for several contests. There are two basic
solutions:
>
> a) Use two computers: one for logging and one to control the
Kachina. This is preferred as it eliminates the need to change window
> focus between radio and logging software, a major impediment to S&P
operation. Furthermore, there are SERIOUS keyboard conflicts
> between the two applications; e.g., F1 in many logging software
packages sends the CQ message... while F1 on a Kachina shifts the
> radio to a memory frequency and obliterates what you were doing!
Keeping the applications on separate machines reduces (but does
> not eliminate) these kinds of cockpit errors.
>
> This recommendation goes double if you are using a tuning knob.
The knob goes dead when the Kachina software does not have the
> keyboard focus.
>
> b) If you must use only one computer, you should practice a lot in
advance. It is also worthwhile to obtain and configure a
> keyboard macro utility, to replace some of the multi-step sequences
one will need to switch around the various applications. Think
> creatively.
>
> -- Eric K3NA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dennis McAlpine
> Sent: 2002 July 13 Sat 03:59
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Cc: Japha, Tony
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kachina plus contest logging?
>
>
> My friend N2UN, who lives in an antenna deprived part of NYC, has
successfully managed to put up an R-7000 vertical antenna at his
> office. He is talking to a Kachina at his office from his apartment
via the phone lines and using some x-10 devices to turn the
> power on and off.
>
> Now like any good contester, Tony is trying how to use this remotely
activated station in a contest. His question is how do you use
> the Kachina operating software at thesame time as a contest logging
program, e.g. WriteLog, CT, NA, etc. Has anyone had any
> experience with this probem and how did you do it?
>
> Thanks for the help. It mayget another station on the air for us
all to work.
>
> 73,
>
> Dennis, K2SX
>
>
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>From wd4ahz at gte.net Mon Jul 22 11:09:44 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Section News and Contest Results
Message-ID: <3D3C1228.BD697366@gte.net>
Frank,
Thanks for your support in keeping Section News and Contest Results in
QST. Unfortunately, this was already a "done deal" scheduled for the
last BOD Meeting ... but the membership "outcry" put that on hold until
this meeting.
The "dumbing down" of Amateur Radio that the ARRL has been pushing, has
finally completely overtaken QST, since Contest Results and Section
News, were the last bits of "non fluff" left in QST ... and now those
will be gone.
I hope this action brings about the desired outcome, but previous
actions by the ARRL to increase membership (by dumbing down Amateur
Radio) have not worked. This may save money by reducing the number of
pages (or will something take their place?), but may also turn some
current members away, since many feel the ARRL no longer represents the
membership or the best interest of Amateur Radio ... instead the ARRL
now acts in the best interest of the ARRL.
The question now, is if the "National Contest Journal", NCJ, can be
expanded to make it a monthly contest magazine. I already subscribe to
NCJ, but would gladly drop QST in favor of an expanded NCJ.
Thanks,
Ron Wetjen, WD4AHZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 22 08:46:13 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207221446.g6MEkDm22043@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
J75KG 1654 661 192 24 1,776,768 FCG
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S LP
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW LP
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
RA9JR 2011 8927 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
RN4LP 1505 4683 251 24 1,175,433
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 14 463,606 HSDXA
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
K1HT 399 123 139 8 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 22 2,342,130 Other (specify when
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
FM5GU 0 1492 99 9 609,246
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 22 08:47:07 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207221447.g6MEl7J22052@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op QRP
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 1 15 SECC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 22 08:47:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207221447.g6MElnD22061@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/2 QRP
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 22 08:49:32 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207221449.g6MEnWd22070@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 22Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
VA3DX 388 147 10 58,200
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 9 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
W6ZL 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
K3FH 176 98 8 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 6 14,964
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
IK0HBN 150 57 9 8,550
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 2 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K6OWL 46 34 2 1,564
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
>From Georgek5kg at aol.com Mon Jul 22 12:07:28 2002
From: Georgek5kg@aol.com (Georgek5kg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] speaking of parts prices...
Message-ID: <73.22df8ce8.2a6d79b0@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/22/2002 2:12:49 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
bob.wruble@verizon.net writes:
> a mouse recently chewed the ear muff on my new pro-set boom
> mike set. i sent it to heil for repair. they did it quickly and charged
> me
> $8. a fair price in my mind!! de w7gg
>
Sounds like it's high time for a cordless mouse!
George I. Wagner, K5KG
Productivity Resources LLC
941-312-9450
941-312-9460 fax
201-415-6044 cell
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>From ari.korhonen at kolumbus.fi Mon Jul 22 16:59:50 2002
From: ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi (Ari Korhonen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC logs
Message-ID: <01c2317f$aa5ca0c0$LocalHost@default>
Hi gang,
Here are some comments re WRTC2002 logs by Risto, OH3UU.
For any questions, please contact oh3uu@sral.fi
73 Ari OH1EH
Hello Folks !
Just visiting at home during my holiday.
First of all, my apologies to all. We were not able to confirm received Early
Bird logs for WRTC2002 due to the tremendous email traffic and pile up with
incoming team logs.
Enclosed please find some statistic about received emails:
Emails total 2242
Count of the logs 1343 (there were several updated emails)
(the count will increase because some emails have more than one log)
Early Bird logs 943
Sex offers 68
Messages with virus 35
Logs with virus alert 32
Corrupted logs abt. 10 (not sure if all were logs)
Money begging 10
The numbers are unofficial and we will start to process the logs more carefully
after the holiday season.
Thanks to all for co-operation
73, Risto
oh3uu@welho.com
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Jul 22 13:15:44 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
Message-ID: <007501c2319b$086f50c0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
snippets taken from one account of the past weekend's board meeting:
ALERT: Sun, July 21, 2002; 11:04 PM ET
Section News and Contest Scores Moving to the Web
In a controversial decision the ARRL Board has voted 9 to 6 to remove
Section News and contest scores from QST as of the January 2003 issue.
The roll call vote is as follows:
Opposed:
Roderick-K5UR-Delta Div., Fuller-N3EFN-Atlantic Div.,
Race-WB8BGY-Great Lakes Div.,
Milnes-W7OZ-Northwestern Div., Maxwell-W6CF-Pacific
Div., and
Butler-W4RH-Southeastern Div.
Voting for the removal:
Isely-W9GIG-Central Div.,
Bellows-K0QB-Dakota Div., Fallon-N2FF-Hudson Div.,
Walstrom-W0EJ-Midwest Div.,
Frenaye-K1KI-New England Div., Bodson-W4PWF-Roanoke
Div., Stinson-W0CP-Rock
Mountain Div., Goddard-W6XD-Southwestern Div. and
Day-N5OK-West Gulf Div. All
directors can be reach at their call-signs @ arrl.org.
Great Lakes Division Director George
un-snip
...I am sure full details are or are about to be posted at the ARRL website.
Thank you W4RH for voting in favor of contest score retention in QST and
the chance to expose non-contesters to contesting...hopefully the ARRL will
allow QST to use as much space for promotion of OPERATING versus mere
license holding and vhf transceiver buying.
The post "un-snip" comments are my own...and the snippets in the top part of
the message were edited from the WCF section webpage.
73,
Jim, K4OJ
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 22 15:54:41 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
In-Reply-To: <007501c2319b$086f50c0$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20020722215441.41977.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
I bet the ARRL will see those who solely subscribed to QST for contest
results and writeups not renewing their subscriptions. I agree with
moving section news because it's boring stuff that lots of people don't
even read. Just wait until they stop printing the DXCC listings !!!
I really don't think the ARRL has a clue about demographics.
Contesting
and DXing are by far the most popular amateur radio activities and
these two groups are the ones buying the products that are advertising
in QST. Does this mean we are now going to see great articles like "
How to Effectively Ragchew on the 75 Meter Band" in QST ????
Maybe someone can clue me in why the ARRL takes the attitude that
contesters/DXer's are the minority ????
I live in Atlanta, GA , which is a pretty big metro area of about 4
million people. I can't imagine that talking on 2 meter repeaters is
very popular. There has to be a repeater on every split possible and I
hardly hear anyone using these repeaters???
How about weak signal VHF/UHF ???? Well it's seems most of the time
there isn't much activity in most parts of the country unless there
is a contest going on ???
How about digital modes ??? Well most of the guys I know that do this
are either contesting or DXing. Sure there are guys probably handling
traffic but the whole thing is so automated now it's like me just
sending an email on my computer.... What's so fun about that ???
That leaves all those "ragchewers" out there. There must be tons of
them because during the weekday the bands have have no activity. It
picks up during the weekend but the bands are by no means crowded if it
is a non-contest weekend.
I really feel bad for the future of ham radio. To do most of all the so
called "hot" activities is many times too expensive for the newcomer.
Maybe I shouldn't complain because when all those 50 something
contesters are all gone in 20-30 years from now I can have 14.001 all
to myself !!!!
73's from Clueless in Georgia , Jeff
--- "Jim White, K4OJ" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> snippets taken from one account of the past weekend's board meeting:
>
>
> ALERT: Sun, July 21, 2002; 11:04 PM ET
>
> Section News and Contest Scores Moving to the Web
>
> In a controversial decision the ARRL Board has voted 9 to 6 to remove
> Section News and contest scores from QST as of the January 2003
> issue.
>
> The roll call vote is as follows:
>
> Opposed:
> Roderick-K5UR-Delta Div., Fuller-N3EFN-Atlantic
> Div.,
> Race-WB8BGY-Great Lakes Div.,
> Milnes-W7OZ-Northwestern Div.,
> Maxwell-W6CF-Pacific
> Div., and
> Butler-W4RH-Southeastern Div.
>
>
> Voting for the removal:
>
>
> Isely-W9GIG-Central Div.,
> Bellows-K0QB-Dakota Div., Fallon-N2FF-Hudson
> Div.,
> Walstrom-W0EJ-Midwest Div.,
> Frenaye-K1KI-New England Div.,
> Bodson-W4PWF-Roanoke
> Div., Stinson-W0CP-Rock
> Mountain Div., Goddard-W6XD-Southwestern Div.
> and
> Day-N5OK-West Gulf Div. All
> directors can be reach at their call-signs @
> arrl.org.
> Great Lakes Division Director George
>
>
> un-snip
>
> ...I am sure full details are or are about to be posted at the ARRL
> website.
>
>
> Thank you W4RH for voting in favor of contest score retention in QST
> and
> the chance to expose non-contesters to contesting...hopefully the
> ARRL will
> allow QST to use as much space for promotion of OPERATING versus mere
> license holding and vhf transceiver buying.
>
> The post "un-snip" comments are my own...and the snippets in the top
> part of
> the message were edited from the WCF section webpage.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, K4OJ
>
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>From kc1f at adelphia.net Mon Jul 22 23:34:44 2002
From: kc1f@adelphia.net (Stuart Santelmann)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Results of UA1 antenna query
Message-ID: <01bd01c231c7$a7aa3d40$6401a8c0@mrrmnh.adelphia.net>
Hello everyone:
I had several reponses to my question about the big HF station in St.
Petersburg, Russia, near the "Kissing Bridge". For those who may be
curious, here they are:
- One vote for "a Finnish businessman"
- One vote for UZ1AWX, reported to be some of the same guys as RU1A
- One vote for RZ1AWT, also reported to be many of the same guys as RU1A
- One vote for "old city small QTH of RU1A", with the main one being
outside of the city
- One vote apparently wondering how I could have thought such "small"
antennas could be RU1A, hi
I don't think it had occurred to any of us to talk to the WRTC competitors
from that area RW1AC or RV1AW to see how close they were to the city for a
possible eyeball and a beer at the hotel during our visit - next time, hi
best 73 Stu KC1F
>From k9gx at yahoo.com Mon Jul 22 17:34:02 2002
From: k9gx@yahoo.com (Mark Williams)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC logs
In-Reply-To: <01c2317f$aa5ca0c0$LocalHost@default>
Message-ID: <20020722233402.11838.qmail@web13007.mail.yahoo.com>
Risto...and all
Sex offers? Obviously whoever made those offers hadn't looked at any of the
many digital photos of our group at WRTC...face it we're not the "jet
set/pretty people". Or maybe they DID and figured we needed some help in that
area (grin)
Hopefully those "sex offers" were not also the ones with "viruses"...yecch!
There weren't any offers of "favors" for overlooking UBN's, I hope!
73 to all...and thanks again to everyone who made WRTC 2002 such a special
event for all of us who were there
Mark
K9GX/OI2HQ 15m SSB SRAL team
Ari Korhonen <ari.korhonen@kolumbus.fi> wrote: Hi gang,
Here are some comments re WRTC2002 logs by Risto, OH3UU.
For any questions, please contact oh3uu@sral.fi
73 Ari OH1EH
Hello Folks !
Just visiting at home during my holiday.
First of all, my apologies to all. We were not able to confirm received Early
Bird logs for WRTC2002 due to the tremendous email traffic and pile up with
incoming team logs.
Enclosed please find some statistic about received emails:
Emails total 2242
Count of the logs 1343 (there were several updated emails)
(the count will increase because some emails have more than one log)
Early Bird logs 943
Sex offers 68
Messages with virus 35
Logs with virus alert 32
Corrupted logs abt. 10 (not sure if all were logs)
Money begging 10
The numbers are unofficial and we will start to process the logs more carefully
after the holiday season.
Thanks to all for co-operation
73, Risto
oh3uu@welho.com
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>From k3ft at erols.com Mon Jul 22 20:45:49 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MDC QSO party
Message-ID: <3D3CA73D.35D@erols.com>
Reminder, MDC QSO party - Two days. Saturday August 10, 2002. Starts at 1200
local and
runs until 2400 local. Sunday, August 11, 2002 runs from 1200 local until 8pm
local.
Rules are available on W3CWC website. (See search engine for W3CWC, Antietam
Radio Association, MDC QSO PARTY for URL's.
You can find FREE Logging software available at URL
http://www.qsl.net/w3km/gen_log.htm
This software is FREE to download. Also download the counties file as well. I
have
downloaded it and tried it. Installed easily, opened easily, and has MANY QSO
parties
and other contest templates included. INcludes counties list too.
Two files.. Genlog.exe and Genlogx.exe plus the counties file. Suggest you
download the
history.txt files and the other associated ones too.
It claims to do the ADIF import/export and has a general logging program too.
I have no connection to anyone or any group involved in this program I wanted
to let
others who were looking for QSO party software know about it.
CU in the QSO party!
73
Chuck K3FT
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Mon Jul 22 23:56:03 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
In-Reply-To: <20020722215441.41977.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207222239550.12687-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Jeffrey Clarke wrote:
> How about weak signal VHF/UHF ???? Well it's seems most of the time
> there isn't much activity in most parts of the country unless there
> is a contest going on ???
That's pretty much the case around here. There are a few people who get
on and ragchew on 144 MHz SSB but the higher bands are pretty empty except
for contests.
>
> How about digital modes ??? Well most of the guys I know that do this
> are either contesting or DXing. Sure there are guys probably handling
> traffic but the whole thing is so automated now it's like me just
> sending an email on my computer.... What's so fun about that ???
>
We just got a group going in this area to experiment with PSK31, MFSK16
etc on 144 MHz. We're using 144.150 right now. The digital modes CAN be
fun and real-time communication bewteen two people is communication
regardless of whether it's done on CW, SSB or digital modes. The digital
modes seem to be a matter of taste, though; some people don't like them.
I do. That's one thing that always intrigued me about this hobby; there
are so many different things to do.
>
> That leaves all those "ragchewers" out there. There must be tons of
> them because during the weekday the bands have have no activity. It
> picks up during the weekend but the bands are by no means crowded if it
> is a non-contest weekend.
>
>From my observation, there seems to be more ragchewing going on as a rule
on SSB than on CW. The bands are not crowded on either mode, though.
>
> I really feel bad for the future of ham radio. To do most of all the so
> called "hot" activities is many times too expensive for the newcomer.
> Maybe I shouldn't complain because when all those 50 something
> contesters are all gone in 20-30 years from now I can have 14.001 all
> to myself !!!!
>
When I got started in ham radio we had a Novice license (probably true for
most of you, too.) There was cheap Novice gear to be had. You could get
on the air for less than $100 in the late 60's and even work some DX. I
remember CO2BB used to come into the Novice band on 40 once in a while and
thrill us all. I worked a lot of Europe, Japan and Okinawa on 15 meters
as a Novice. BTW, I still have my old Novice transmitter and I measured
the power out a couple years ago just for fun, to see what I was working
all that DX with. 30 watts!
I'm not sure of the future of ham radio, either. As Yogi Berra once said,
"The future just ain't what it used to be!"
73, Zack W9SZ
>From nf1j at earthlink.net Mon Jul 22 21:58:48 2002
From: nf1j@earthlink.net (Warren C. Stankiewicz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
References: <20020722215441.41977.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000701c231fd$420b02e0$e451ff40@familyroom>
Well, if folks are this upset, let's look at the political economic
situation here (without trying to sound Marxist)...
Who voted for this?
Isely-W9GIG-Central Div.,
That's SMC territory, isn't it?
Bellows-K0QB-Dakota Div.
MWA's got a pretty big contingent, I recall, if I'm not mistaken
Fallon-N2FF-Hudson Div.,
I think you could call that 50-50 between FRC and YCCC types
Frenaye-K1KI-New England Div
YCCC
Bodson-W4PWF-Roanoke
Anyone here from PVRC?
Day-N5OK-West Gulf Div.
There's what, two, three big contest clubs in Texas?
And I left out some directors, and a whole bunch of clubs, none
intentionally. Walt Stinson even served on the CAC at one time.
All of you who are ARRL members got the chance to vote for these people. All
these directors would surely show at any regular club meeting, if they were
asked, to address the members, especially a sizeable contingent (I leave out
those who'd show up anyhow).
With malice towards none (I even know and like some of these folks). But if
you voted for them, you got what you paid for. If you didn't vote for them,
you got even less than what you paid for. The ARRL is you, and you should be
telling it what you want, and not the other way around.
Not that I'm suggesting overthrowing the board--that would be a bit too
revolutionary. Nor am I suggesting people resort to the tactics other
organizations use of trying to vote out people who don't represent their
point of view. But if you want your voices to be heard in Newington,.
perhaps folks should consider grouping together on the divisional level
until they make their voices and their points heard.
After all, at it's very core, amateur radio is about *operating*, isn't it?
And who does more of that than people like us?
Again, with malice towards none, and 73,
warren (nf1j/6)
nf1j@earthlink.net
>From k1ir at designet.com Tue Jul 23 09:05:55 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Line Scores in QST - Comments Were Submitted to ARRL
Message-ID: <kde86zh6flzs28i.230720020805@designet-jsi>
Fellow Contesters,
It took quite a long time, but last week as the ARRL BoD meeting was
approaching, we did get the promised Contest Coverage document out to ARRL HQ
staff and to the individual board members. The document can be viewed at:
PDF version: http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
and
HTML version: http://www.designet.com/k1ir/ContestCoverageProposal_071702.htm
About 35 contesters - including ARRL members and non-members, US and non-US
contesters - participated in the creation of this set of proposals. As you'll
observe when you read it, the document goes way beyond the simple question of
how line scores are to be published. It addresses the deeper questions of how
the various aspects of contesting can be presented effectively to all types of
existing and potential audiences.
At this point, we do know that this information was distributed just prior to
the BoD meeting, but we have not heard any specific reactions and we don't know
if or how the proposals influenced voting on the question of line scores.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Tue Jul 23 08:45:07 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
In-Reply-To: <000701c231fd$420b02e0$e451ff40@familyroom>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJMEFEEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> After all, at it's very core, amateur radio is about *operating*,
> isn't it?
> And who does more of that than people like us?
>
The pig-farmers and coal-miners on 75?
>From GaryK9GS at wi.rr.com Tue Jul 23 08:46:24 2002
From: GaryK9GS@wi.rr.com (Gary K9GS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K3EST E-Mail Address??
Message-ID: <001801c23246$f44bc0e0$9a991f41@wi.rr.com>
Does anyone have K3EST's correct e-mail address??
Both the mailto on the CQ Magazine web page and the K3EST@mother.com bounce.
73,
Gary
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
K9GS
Gary Schwartz email: k9gs@arrl.net
Check out K9NS on the web http://www.qsl.net/k9ns/
Society of Midwest Contesters (SMC) GMDXA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>From n4zr at contesting.com Tue Jul 23 09:51:01 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723084201.0248a960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Following is from the ARRL Web, which is having server problems this
morning, so I've taken the liberty of excerpting. Deletion marked with "..."
""Section News," Line Scores Moving from QST to Web; Great Lakes Director
Steps Down
NEWINGTON, CT, Jul 22, 2002--Starting next January, "Section News" and
contest line score results will appear on the ARRL Web site rather than in
QST. Meeting July 19-20 in Windsor, Connecticut, the ARRL Board of
Directors voted 9-6 to approve a resolution formally relocating "Section
News" to the ARRL Web site. "Section News" has appeared in the League's
official journal at least since 1919. The "Section News" Web sites--already
in place--will provide the officials of each ARRL section "the capability
of an up-to-date information resource that can be tailored to the needs of
their section," the resolution said.
...
In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed that the
ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the results of
ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will appear in QST. The
change does not affect ARRL Field Day results, which will continue to be
published in the magazine.
A Web site established earlier this year now includes, among other
features, a searchable database of contest line scores for members and the
ability to easily analyze individual and club scores. There's also an
on-line Soapbox to post comments and photos immediately after a contest, as
well as an expanded narrative for each event. In addition, the resolution
pointed out, the ARRL now offers members the free Contest Rate Sheet
newsletter, which focuses specifically on contesting."
It troubles me is that there is no indication of any intention to improve
in-print coverage of contesting topics, paralleling that in the discussion
on Section News. Perhaps one or more of the directors who reads this
reflector can explain further.
73, Pete N4ZR
>From ludal at dmv.com Tue Jul 23 10:47:47 2002
From: ludal@dmv.com (Dallas Carter)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest reporting
References: <20020722215441.41977.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com>
<000701c231fd$420b02e0$e451ff40@familyroom>
Message-ID: <00b901c2324f$8a963460$14ea21a2@com>
With all due respect to Jim and others, It was nice to see
how the board voted on this issue; but:
I think we kicked all the air out of this ball 6 months ago.
Many of us wrote to our directors to make our cases, and
it was discussed here ad nausium. The action has now been
taken, and reflects the feelings of the directors constituancies.
At this point we should give the web alternative a chance.
So far, I like what I see; and I was an opponent of the
proposal.
Those who make the point that contesters are the ones who
support the advertisers have not done a very thorough analysis
of the market. The position is only partially true and not
mutually exclusive. The FACT is that contestors ARE in the
numerical minority with regard to ARRL membership, and the
vote probably does represent the membership. If you want
to vote with your feet, that's fine, but let's get this venue back
to contesting topics and drop the League bashing.
73 Dallas W3PP
>From jonathan.schulz at sbt.siemens.com Tue Jul 23 09:48:07 2002
From: jonathan.schulz@sbt.siemens.com (Schulz Jonathan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
Message-ID: <9C9D44629453D611874300508B91A4AC116EC4@hubs.us.abatos.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren C. Stankiewicz [mailto:nf1j@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:59 PM
> To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
>
>
> Well, if folks are this upset, let's look at the political economic
> situation here (without trying to sound Marxist)...
>
> Who voted for this?
>
> Isely-W9GIG-Central Div.,
>
> That's SMC territory, isn't it?
>
Sure is! And Dick is a semi active participant in SS and other contests,
going to have to ask him about this sometime. My take on the whole thing; if
the Web coverage could give us the results in a more timely manner and
continue to be as good as the ones I have seen so far, (SS, ARRL 160) I
couldn't care less that they are dropping line scores in QST.
73,
Jon
K9JLS
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Tue Jul 23 10:47:42 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHCECHDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Guys,
Thanks to you all for the inputs, on how to remove the
overspray of OFF from my laptop and radio, after Field Day.
I thought maybe it'd be worth some quick feedback.
First, no soap removed the little white spots on the laptop case.
I was about to try denatured alcohol, in a small spot, when I decided
to give skin-so-soft a try, first. It removes pine pitch and other stuff from
hair and clothing, so, maybe.... et voila!
Three drops on a damp cloth, and some light rubbing...and the stuff
is gone. Not only do I have a clean station, but it's the sweetest smelling
station in the neighborhood! (be sparing, and wipe it down with a dry cloth
afterwards.)
Next year, I'm going to provide a spray bottle with 50/50 of water/skin-so-soft.
That way, I'm reasonably assured it'll come off. OFF will be banned from the
CW tent!
For those of you who doubt the insect chasing properties of this stuff...don't.
a 50% sol'n w/water works well as a spray. We use it in VT against black flies
and
mosquitos, and in the Carribean for mustiques & no see 'ums. Works great.
73, Jim, n2ea
>From w2up at mindspring.com Tue Jul 23 11:38:35 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723084201.0248a960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
I find it surprising, and disappointing, that two of the directors, K1KI
and N2FF, both of whom are contesters, voted to remove contest
results from QST. While they are under no obligation to explain
themselves, perhaps they would care to, anyway...
Personally, I find QST of little interest of value. As the League is
interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
priced membership:
One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
Comments?
73,
Barry W2UP
On 23 Jul 02, at 8:51, Pete Smith wrote:
> Following is from the ARRL Web, which is having server problems this
> morning, so I've taken the liberty of excerpting. Deletion marked
> with "..."
>
> ""Section News," Line Scores Moving from QST to Web; Great Lakes
> Director Steps Down
>
> NEWINGTON, CT, Jul 22, 2002--Starting next January, "Section News" and
> contest line score results will appear on the ARRL Web site rather
> than in QST. Meeting July 19-20 in Windsor, Connecticut, the ARRL
> Board of Directors voted 9-6 to approve a resolution formally
> relocating "Section News" to the ARRL Web site. "Section News" has
> appeared in the League's official journal at least since 1919. The
> "Section News" Web sites--already in place--will provide the officials
> of each ARRL section "the capability of an up-to-date information
> resource that can be tailored to the needs of their section," the
> resolution said.
>
> ...
>
> In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed that
> the ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the results
> of ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will appear in
> QST. The change does not affect ARRL Field Day results, which will
> continue to be published in the magazine.
>
> A Web site established earlier this year now includes, among other
> features, a searchable database of contest line scores for members and
> the ability to easily analyze individual and club scores. There's also
> an on-line Soapbox to post comments and photos immediately after a
> contest, as well as an expanded narrative for each event. In addition,
> the resolution pointed out, the ARRL now offers members the free
> Contest Rate Sheet newsletter, which focuses specifically on
> contesting."
>
> It troubles me is that there is no indication of any intention to
> improve in-print coverage of contesting topics, paralleling that in
> the discussion on Section News. Perhaps one or more of the directors
> who reads this reflector can explain further.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> _______________________________________________
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--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From k4ja at crosslink.net Tue Jul 23 16:25:50 2002
From: k4ja@crosslink.net (K4JA Paul)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <002901c2325d$3bbec2e0$0601a8c0@gipper>
Hello Barry
My thoughts also, I have been thinking the very same thing all day long as I
read the mail.
73 Paul
> One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> Comments?
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 23 12:35:05 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
References: <9C9D44629453D611874300508B91A4AC116EC4@hubs.us.abatos.com>
Message-ID: <3D3D77A9.FA876B88@gte.net>
Schulz Jonathan wrote:
> My take on the whole thing; if the Web coverage could give us the
> results in a more timely manner and continue to be as good as the
> ones I have seen so far, (SS, ARRL 160) I couldn't care less that
> they are dropping line scores in QST.
Why is everyone missing the point?
Kid Q. Public picks up a QST at the local newsstand and skims through
it. He sees a bunch of "low tech" articles and a lot of nice photos of
people doing stuff with HT's. He thinks "geeks", and puts it back
down. (He wont bother to visit the ARRL Web site - thinking it's more
"geek" stuff.)
On the other hand, he runs across something about a "contest" which
catches his eye - COOL! He buys QST, and reads further, and perhaps
sparks his interest in Amateur Radio and getting involved in
contesting. That "hook" will no longer be there.
If people don't even know something exists, how will they find out about
it?
Ron
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 23 12:36:48 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <3D3D7810.9FBD9754@gte.net>
Barry wrote:
> One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
Or those who want only NCJ, yet remain an ARRL member.
Ron
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Tue Jul 23 12:41:15 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] league bashing//tree hugging//results
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKECJDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
I find it amusing that a computer oriented constituency such
as one finds on this reflector would continue to bash the
league for not printing line scores.
Both publishing economics and timing favor the web site.
We don't seem to be paragons of progressive thinking on this topic.
Dallas Carter said it well:
"I think we kicked all the air out of this ball 6 months ago.
Many of us wrote to our directors to make our cases, and
it was discussed here ad nausium. The action has now been
taken, and reflects the feelings of the directors constituancies.
At this point we should give the web alternative a chance.
So far, I like what I see; and I was an opponent of the
proposal."
You may not like the league, but it represents the singular hope for
continuing life in this hobby in the US. The regulatory agency defers to
ARRL, in pursuit of self-governance in the service. ARRL's role
is growing.
If you find ARRL flawed, YOU are responsible. Become involved.
And stop whining.
N2EA
Jim Jarvis
>From k1mk at arrl.net Tue Jul 23 09:51:48 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Tue, 23 July 2002, "Barry " wrote
> As the League is
> interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> priced membership:
> One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> Comments?
There'd be a price difference because... ?
Michael Keane K1MK
k1mk@arrl.net
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Tue Jul 23 12:06:41 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207231104280.25236-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
All the "good stuff" (for the technically-minded) is in QEX these days.
The last issue I got, which had articles on software-defined radio, was
superb.
And then there's NCJ.
QST doesn't appeal to me much anymore, either.
73, Zack W9SZ
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Barry wrote:
> I find it surprising, and disappointing, that two of the directors, K1KI
> and N2FF, both of whom are contesters, voted to remove contest
> results from QST. While they are under no obligation to explain
> themselves, perhaps they would care to, anyway...
> Personally, I find QST of little interest of value. As the League is
> interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> priced membership:
> One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> Comments?
> 73,
> Barry W2UP
>
>From tree at kkn.net Tue Jul 23 10:09:49 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Board votes - get the facts right
Message-ID: <200207231609.g6NG9n208101@loja.kkn.net>
There were two differnet votes. One was about the section news
(which was a roll call vote). For the contest line scores, I
quote the earlier post:
> In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed that the
> ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the results of
> ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will appear in QST. The
> change does not affect ARRL Field Day results, which will continue to be
> published in the magazine.
Therefore it would seem the current analysis of who did and who didn't vote
for the contest removal is rather pointless. You are talking about who
voted for the Section News issue.
Tree N6TR
>From K7LXC at aol.com Tue Jul 23 13:32:02 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
Message-ID: <6F22685B.47139AA9.0000DB5D@aol.com>
In a message dated Mon, 22 Jul 2002 4:54:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ku8e1@yahoo.com writes:
> I really don't think the ARRL has a clue about demographics.
Actually they do. They spend money periodically to have
in-depth subscriber surveys done. I have an older one and it's quite
interesting. I think they got 2500 surveys back or something like that so I'd
say the results are valid.
> Contesting
> and DXing are by far the most popular amateur radio activities and
> these two groups are the ones buying the products that are advertising
> in QST.
You're right on that.
> Does this mean we are now going to see great articles like "
> How to Effectively Ragchew on the 75 Meter Band" in QST ????
>
Well, they'll be happy for you to send them a really neat article on
contesting or DXing - they actually print some but you have to submit
something.
> Maybe someone can clue me in why the ARRL takes the
> attitude that
> contesters/DXer's are the minority ????
Uh...cuz they are?!?
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Tue Jul 23 17:40:45 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <3D3D870D.80E36FD5@directvinternet.com>
Barry wrote:
> I find it surprising, and disappointing, that two of the directors, K1KI
> and N2FF, both of whom are contesters, voted to remove contest
> results from QST. While they are under no obligation to explain
> themselves, perhaps they would care to, anyway...
----------
I agree whole heartily with Barry's comments above, but since "we"
elected them, I belive we are entitled to a complete explanation.
--------------
> Personally, I find QST of little interest of value.
-----
Again, I agree 100%. Unfortunately, I am stuck with a life membership,
which at the price I paid, has been more than a great bargin. But, if
ARRL continues to fill its pages with "junk" devoted to the least
informed of amateurs, I will consider giving up that membership, just
to remove my name from the membership list.
I personally wish there was an alternative organization. I know that's
bound to be a wish, but I sincerely deplore the decline of this hobby
I have loved for 47 years.
I've said it before, but I believe the only way to change it is to
replace the Directors with those more representative of our interests.
73
Ed
>From w2up at mindspring.com Tue Jul 23 13:44:53 2002
From: w2up@mindspring.com (Barry )
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <E17X2n2-0001iD-00@maynard.mail.mindspring.net>
On 23 Jul 02, at 8:51, Michael Keane, K1MK wrote:
> On Tue, 23 July 2002, "Barry " wrote
>
> > As the League is
> > interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> > priced membership: One for those who want QST, and another price for
> > those that don't. Comments?
>
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
>
> Michael Keane K1MK
> k1mk@arrl.net
> ________________________________________________
Part of my membership dues is put towards printing and mailing of
QST, which I would decline to receive, therefore saving that money.
Or, credit me towards NCJ, QEX or another league publication I
may receive...
Barry
--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA Frankford Radio Club
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Tue Jul 23 17:46:46 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHCECHDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <3D3D8876.141F9CE7@directvinternet.com>
jljarvis wrote:
>
> Guys,
snipped
> For those of you who doubt the insect chasing properties of this
> stuff...don't.
> a 50% sol'n w/water works well as a spray. We use it in VT against black
> flies and
> mosquitos, and in the Carribean for mustiques & no see 'ums. Works great.
>
> 73, Jim, n2ea
Don't know if this product contains it, but NBC ( I think ) ran a news
item a week or so ago, and it showed the results of testing. In short,
if the product doesn't contain an ingredient called "beet" (spelling
is probably wrong ), it's worthless as a repellent.
73
Ed
>From wd4ahz at gte.net Tue Jul 23 13:46:46 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <3D3D8876.10544064@gte.net>
"Michael Keane, K1MK" wrote:
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
Because "Fifty percent of dues is allocated to QST, the balance for
membership".
You don't want QST ... you pay half the current dues.
Ron
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 23 10:53:01 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <3D3D7810.9FBD9754@gte.net>
Message-ID: <20020723165301.46537.qmail@web10502.mail.yahoo.com>
It's too bad that contesters didn't support the NCJ in the past and
it had to be saved by the ARRL. We have the technology today that there
is not a need for national organizations like the ARRL or a magazine
like CQ need to sponsor our contests. Most of those who check the logs
and are sponsoring the awards are donating their time to do this
anyway.
NCJ would of been a great forum to report the results along with other
contesting related articles.....
Jeff
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>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Tue Jul 23 12:57:58 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] league bashing//tree hugging//results
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKECJDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>; from
jljarvis on Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 11:41:15AM -0400
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKECJDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <20020723115758.E19827@cs.utexas.edu>
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 11:41:15AM -0400, jljarvis wrote:
>
> If you find ARRL flawed, YOU are responsible. Become involved.
> And stop whining.
Engaging other League members and potential League members in open debate
about League policy IS becoming involved. Just because they don't agree
with you doesn't mean they are whining - they may just be trying to
persuade their fellows.
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From W0uo at cs.com Tue Jul 23 14:16:49 2002
From: W0uo@cs.com (W0uo@cs.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
Message-ID: <1a0.5b110a5.2a6ee981@cs.com>
Jim,
Skin so soft should keep the bugs out of your rig next year!!
Jim
W0UO/5
>From W0uo at cs.com Tue Jul 23 14:17:43 2002
From: W0uo@cs.com (W0uo@cs.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <64.226c649b.2a6ee9b7@cs.com>
Barry,
W0CP and, possibly, others are contesters as well
Jim
W0UO/5
>From jim at forsyth.net Tue Jul 23 11:07:59 2002
From: jim@forsyth.net (Jim Forsyth)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
References: <9C9D44629453D611874300508B91A4AC116EC4@hubs.us.abatos.com>
<3D3D77A9.FA876B88@gte.net>
Message-ID: <019e01c2326d$fe3e1220$81e4fea9@Hailsham>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Wetjen" <wd4ahz@gte.net>
To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
> Why is everyone missing the point?
When it seems like everybody is wrong except you, then you probably have it
backwards.
Jim, AF6O
>From jim at forsyth.net Tue Jul 23 11:12:37 2002
From: jim@forsyth.net (Jim Forsyth)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <019f01c2326d$ff10f280$81e4fea9@Hailsham>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Keane, K1MK" <k1mk@arrl.net>
To: <w2up@mindspring.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
> On Tue, 23 July 2002, "Barry " wrote
>
> > As the League is
> > interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> > priced membership:
> > One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> > Comments?
>
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
Duh!
Jim, AF6O
>From brnsmth at mo-net.com Tue Jul 23 18:35:30 2002
From: brnsmth@mo-net.com (brnsmth@mo-net.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST economics
Message-ID: <200207231734.g6NHYM5r005131@contesting.com>
OK, so I understand that only a small percentage of ham radio operators are
contesters. Fine. Remove the Contest results and put them online. How about
some suggestions for other cuts first? How about cutting VHF coverage down to
one page? Do I need a map every month of where Jim-Bob and Dave from Arkansas
and Oklahoma made contacts on 6 meters? I don't have a problem with VHF, I
operate it myself from time to time, but for goodness sake, be reasonable in
what you cut.
If participation in ARRL contests sees a noticable decline in the future, we
will know why.
On the other hand, if the ARRL is trying to focus on the majority of hams, the
should focus on the no-code techs. I mean, shouldn't they stop running code
practice at W1AW and stop running those complicated projects. Let's focus on
the majority of hams, most of the ARRL membership would like to know how to
become the guru of the repeater world, surely. So wouldn't an article on how
to erect a tower and guy it with dog chains and bailing wire be more suited to
this marketing strategy?
There are more pages in QST dedicated to traffic handling and ARES than
anything else (if you include the section reports of traffic handled.) What
percentage of hams actually handle traffic nowadays?
I say if you are going to appeal to the largest market, you need to discuss
important issues like, how to use 10 codes and how to convert 11 meter
equipment for Ham use, or better how to convert ham equipment to 11 meter use.
Why talk about HF radios at all?
Dayton's Hamvention seems to by going down this road too, so I won't stick it
all on the League. I am sure there are more shack-on-the-belt goons skulking
around Hara per square foot than anywhere in the world, but I think a little
common sense is called for.....
If they won't take the time to upgrade to HF, what makes you think they will
part with $$$ for equipment? The 2meter only crowd usually has everything they
need.
Your money is in the DX and Contesting markets. I hope, someday, they will
realize that the guys who buy are the ones you cater to. Vegas doesn't spend a
lot of money on comps to the ladies pulling the Nickel Slots.
Sorry for the rant,
It's been building up for a while now,
Brian
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>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Tue Jul 23 11:43:20 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] moving onward
Message-ID: <20020723174320.30634.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com>
Greetings!
As W3PP wrote... let's get back to contesting and
topics surrounding that topic. Getting more
people into contesting always reigns high on the
list of items discussed. The ARRL has acted,
reality is what it is. Let us accept it and move
onward.
For myself.. the question NOW is.. HOW do we as
active/interested (dare I say 'addicted')
contest types get the newbies into what we do?
Let me offer a short hand saying 'Each One.. Win
One!'
Every one of us has friends who are hams OR know
about what we do but don't contest or even know
what it really is.
They MAY know about the overview.. They MAY know
you as the guy who spends his weekends behind
the radio chasing contacts.
BUT.. Do they KNOW what it is that you like
about it? Do they KNOW what it is about
contesting
that lights your fuse and makes you expend the
hours/dollars in pursuit of the goals? Do they
KNOW how contesting can benefit THEM in their
amateur radio pursuits - be it emergency
communications, public service, enjoying
ragchewing on the HF bands, chasing DX?
If you visit a Club.. talk about the SIZZLE of
contesting.. not the boring (to others) stuff.
Sell the buzz.. the sizzle.. dangle some bait.
Your passion adn enthusiasm will come out
and you will attract folks.
Take those who rise to the 'bait' and offer to
show them more.. Treat it like big-game fish
fishing. If you have an eyeball wiht someone..
lay some 'bait' out and see if they nibble.
Regardless.. work on getting just one person
interested in coming to see. IF 10% of the
active contesters did this.. we'd have a sizable
increase. Success begets success.
The resources are out there. The Contest groups
are there.
Onward!
73
Chuck K3FT
not to sound to RAH-RAH.. but that's how I got
introduced to contesting. I'm an average type ham
when it comes to things - interested but need
someone to help me see the 'zing' and excite me
to want to come and see. Did it work? Ask W3PP
and WR3L. They both KNOW what the results of THAT
exposure lead to! <grin>
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>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Tue Jul 23 15:11:21 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White, K4OJ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] possible error on my part
Message-ID: <02e501c23274$59717c80$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
>From reading the ARRL recount of the Board Meeting it appears the statistics
I cited as far as which Director voted for QST coverage are not may be in
error.
I believe the information I was given actually is the vote on Section News
being discontinued...does anyone know what the head count/who voted what way
was for the removal of contest results from our National Journal?
K4OJ
>From kilo.mike at gte.net Tue Jul 23 19:47:50 2002
From: kilo.mike@gte.net (Kris Mraz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <3D3DA4D6.F009AD@gte.net>
I think Michael was using sarcasm. QST has no value so why would your
membership dues be reduced if you don't receive it? I thought it was
funny, anyway.
Kris N5KM
> From: Ron Wetjen <wd4ahz@gte.net>
> To: "Michael Keane, K1MK" <k1mk@arrl.net>
> CC: w2up@mindspring.com, cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
>
> "Michael Keane, K1MK" wrote:
>
> > There'd be a price difference because... ?
>
> Because "Fifty percent of dues is allocated to QST, the balance for
> membership".
>
> You don't want QST ... you pay half the current dues.
>
> Ron
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Tue Jul 23 14:33:13 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
In-Reply-To: <3D3D8876.141F9CE7@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207231327570.29977-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On the Microchip PIC microcontroller application notes website is an idea
for a novel mosquito repeller. It simply produces a very quiet duplication
of the sound of a dragonfly's wings. The dragonfly is a natural predator
of the mosquito, and the theory is that the mosquitos will actually try to
avoid areas where they hear dragonflies flying.
I built one using a PIC12C508 and a small piezoelectric transducer.
Surprised me - the darned thing actually works!
73, Zack W9SZ
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, K4SB wrote:
> jljarvis wrote:
> >
> > Guys,
> snipped
> > For those of you who doubt the insect chasing properties of this
> > stuff...don't.
> > a 50% sol'n w/water works well as a spray. We use it in VT against black
> > flies and
> > mosquitos, and in the Carribean for mustiques & no see 'ums. Works great.
> >
> > 73, Jim, n2ea
>
> Don't know if this product contains it, but NBC ( I think ) ran a news
> item a week or so ago, and it showed the results of testing. In short,
> if the product doesn't contain an ingredient called "beet" (spelling
> is probably wrong ), it's worthless as a repellent.
>
> 73
> Ed
>From ford at cmgate.com Tue Jul 23 15:14:01 2002
From: ford@cmgate.com (Ford Peterson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <001501c2327d$1b5d5f00$8cee83d1@office>
On Tue, 23 July 2002, "Barry " wrote
>
> > As the League is
> > interested in cost cutting, perhaps they should consider a dual-
> > priced membership:
> > One for those who want QST, and another price for those that don't.
> > Comments?
>
To which Michael replied:
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
>
> Michael Keane K1MK
*****************************************
For those who never had the option of econ 101 in grade school, eliminating
QST from your "membership" would induce an increase in your dues. Why?
Because the more copies of QST that circulate, the greater the ad revenue.
Ever wonder why trade journals are free? For the same reason QST is free.
Yes, folks, it is free. Your QST costs nothing. Zippo. Zilch. We beat
this topic to death 6 months ago. The more copies they print, the more
valuable the ad space. Reduce the # of printed copies, you reduce revenues.
The current circulation numbers appear to make printing QST a freebee.
Reduce the numbers printed, well, it won't break even any more. I know it
may sound strange, but those are the raw facts of economics in the magazine
business.
Ford-N0FP
ford@cmgate.com
>From k0luz at topsusa.com Tue Jul 23 16:24:43 2002
From: k0luz@topsusa.com (K0LUZ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] possible error on my part
In-Reply-To: <02e501c23274$59717c80$62f1a118@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <LOBBKFICDFPNLHBMOBDKKEBIFJAA.k0luz@topsusa.com>
Believe I saw that that issue was decided by a voice vote. Therefore all
can claim they voted for keeping data in QST. Sounds like the votes taken
in Congress when they are raising their salaries.
Red
K0LUZ
-----Original Message-----
>From reading the ARRL recount of the Board Meeting it appears the statistics
I cited as far as which Director voted for QST coverage are not may be in
error.
I believe the information I was given actually is the vote on Section News
being discontinued...does anyone know what the head count/who voted what way
was for the removal of contest results from our National Journal?
K4OJ
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>From kc5ykx at swbell.net Tue Jul 23 15:23:55 2002
From: kc5ykx@swbell.net (Reid Hill)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] removing FD residue
Message-ID: <0GZP002TBV7VHW@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net>
beet..vegitable
deet..chemical
Reid, KC5YKX
07/23/2002 5:46:46 PM, K4SB <hamcat@directvinternet.com> wrote:
>Don't know if this product contains it, but NBC ( I think ) ran a news
>item a week or so ago, and it showed the results of testing. In short,
>if the product doesn't contain an ingredient called "beet" (spelling
>is probably wrong ), it's worthless as a repellent.
>
>73
>Ed
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>CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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>
>From tree at kkn.net Tue Jul 23 13:28:06 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
Message-ID: <200207231928.g6NJS6311097@loja.kkn.net>
> Kid Q. Public picks up a QST at the local newsstand and skims through
> it. He sees a bunch of "low tech" articles and a lot of nice photos of
> people doing stuff with HT's. He thinks "geeks", and puts it back
> down. (He wont bother to visit the ARRL Web site - thinking it's more
> "geek" stuff.)
Is Kid Q. Public more likely to find a QST at a local newstand - or stumble
upon the ARRL Web Page on the net?
Tree
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 23 13:45:54 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207231945.g6NJjs723411@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary or to correct your post,
please visit: 3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
J75KG 1654 661 192 24 1,776,768 FCG
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
W7GG 362 300 44 9 265,742
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All M/S LP
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 0 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 19 1,418,640
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 20 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
K9TM 901 0 109 12 370,927 MRRC
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
DH7KU 550 0 66 16 134,640 DK0UN University Rad
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW LP
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
W4BCG 75 0 40 6 9,400 TCG
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 22 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 6267 172 17 1,077,924 IARC
K6XX 1264 247 179 22 1,030,682 NCCC
UY5ZZ 991 304 123 956,032
K2SX 1102 93 116 18 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 18 627,690 PVRC
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 14 463,606 HSDXA
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 7 402,327
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 k 118,230
S57UN(@S52ZW) 430 26 27 5 117,432 SCC
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
VE4YU 360 232 61 18 270,750
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
K1HT 399 123 139 8 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
SM4DHF 246 46 58 7 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 4 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
DF1DX 141 114 92 13 71,300 RR DX
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 12 10,701 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 22 2,342,130 Other (specify when
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
RN4LP 0 1505 251 24 1,175,433
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
FM5GU 0 1492 99 9 609,246
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 162,047
DL4RCK 0 286 72 8 98,412 BCC
NQ4U 0 235 49 8 81,498 TCG
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
All SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
W7GG K7ZUM,KC7TWZ,W7GG
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 23 13:46:32 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207231946.g6NJkWU23420@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary or to correct your post,
please visit: 3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
KB8U 227 99 17 30,888
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
K8CC 130 72 6 12,240 MRRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
K0UK 2 2 27 6 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/2 QRP
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 QRP
N3AWS 5 4 3 20
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 23 13:47:40 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207231947.g6NJlea23429@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary or to correct your post,
please visit: 3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
W6YX 446 156 10 69,576 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
VA3DX 388 147 10 58,200
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 9 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
9A5W(@9A1A) 301 107 9 32,207
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K7ZUM 241 118 7 28,438 WVDXC
N1NB 240 105 7 25,200
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
W4BCG 222 107 9 23,754 TCG
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
W6ZL(BIGWAVE) 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
KD8FS 195 97 5 18,915
LP7H(LU9HS) 227 76 10 17,252
K3FH 176 98 8 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 6 14,964
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
K1XX 161 78 9 12,090
IK0HBN 150 57 9 8,550
WB0O 110 71 2 7,810
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 2 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K9SZ 48 33 1,584
K6OWL 46 34 2 1,564
F6FJE 24 23 5 552
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
W6YX K6ENT,N6DE,W6ZZZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 23 13:48:27 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207231948.g6NJmRr23438@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 23Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary or to correct your post,
please visit: 3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Rover LP
N4PN 676 75 400 57 20 20,876
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
N4GG 78 10 64 10 9 12,284 PVRC
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NJ8J 43 7 21 7 3 2,604 SECC
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Single Op QRP
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 1 15 SECC
Operators:
(none)
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Tue Jul 23 15:46:21 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Board votes - get the facts right
References: <200207231609.g6NG9n208101@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <036b01c23281$9f7af280$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>There were two differnet votes. One was about the section news
>(which was a roll call vote). For the contest line scores, I
>quote the earlier post:
>
>>In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed that the
>>ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the results of
>>ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will appear in QST. The
>>change does not affect ARRL Field Day results, which will continue to be
>>published in the magazine.
>
>Therefore it would seem the current analysis of who did and who didn't vote
>for the contest removal is rather pointless. You are talking about who
>voted for the Section News issue.
>
> Tree N6TR
Interesting point ... which raises the question of WHY did they address
the Section News issue in a different manner than the Contest issue?
Other than political "protection" ... as they knew exactly what would
happen if the exact votes were known to the contesting membership?
Here we have our "elected leaders" hiding behind a voice vote so we
can't be for certain who did or did not oppose this. How wonderful ...
I thought "they" were doing this to reduce costs and page counts ... I
saw no mention of that in the official ARRL release. So where's the
$$$$ savings that 6 months ago was driving this 'must happen' issue?
And what's next to be removed?
A sad day for the hobby, the ARRL and for contesting especially ... it
will interesting to see what "they" do next.
73 Billy AA4NU ... one of those disappointed minority contestor types ...
>From tree at kkn.net Tue Jul 23 13:52:09 2002
From: tree@kkn.net (Tree)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Removing Field Day residue from my QST
Message-ID: <200207231952.g6NJq9S11438@loja.kkn.net>
Can I use Skin-So-Soft to remove the contest line scores from my old QSTs?
Tree
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Tue Jul 23 16:57:14 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] possible error on my part
In-Reply-To: <LOBBKFICDFPNLHBMOBDKKEBIFJAA.k0luz@topsusa.com>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDEEGNENAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
I'm surprised that the Section News debacle wasn't by voice vote
as well. The public service folks (traffic handlers, ARES types, etc.)
get precious little recognition as it is, and many were driven by a
desire to see their call in the magazine once a month (BPL, traffic
totals, etc.)
I know that during the 4 years I was Ohio Section Manager, if I missed
including a callsign for someone who reported traffic to me, I heard
about it loud and long.
Of course, traffic handlers are a smaller consituancy than even
contesters, so they can be "dissed" without fear of meaningful
retaliation, despite their direct link to the origins of the ARRL.
I expect that this was the straw that broke the camel's back in
the resignation of the Great Lakes Director, who had a long
history in the Field Organization before joining the Board. he
reportedly didn't even wait until after the halfway point of the
meeting to leave.
Gotta run the League as a business. Can't keep any of those
nostalgic links to the past.
Perhaps they can use the Wouff Hong as firewood this Winter
to conserve fuel and save a buck?
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of K0LUZ
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 15:25
> To: Jim White, K4OJ; fcg@mailman.qth.net; CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] possible error on my part
>
>
>
> Believe I saw that that issue was decided by a voice vote. Therefore all
> can claim they voted for keeping data in QST. Sounds like the votes taken
> in Congress when they are raising their salaries.
>
> Red
> K0LUZ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> From reading the ARRL recount of the Board Meeting it appears the
> statistics
> I cited as far as which Director voted for QST coverage are not may be in
> error.
>
> I believe the information I was given actually is the vote on Section News
> being discontinued...does anyone know what the head count/who
> voted what way
> was for the removal of contest results from our National Journal?
>
> K4OJ
>
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Tue Jul 23 17:04:40 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST and Contest Coverage
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723155910.024b8d90@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Everyone seems to have missed an important point in my post this morning,
so I'll repeat it here:
"It troubles me is that there is no indication of any intention to improve
in-print coverage of contesting topics, paralleling that in the discussion
on Section News. Perhaps one or more of the directors who reads this
reflector can explain further."
Unless and until I know what the Board's intentions in this regard are, I'm
not condemning anybody. It DOES concern me, though, that nothing was said,
because I know these news releases are carefully written. If no line
scores means no improvement/expansion in other contest coverage in QST,
then I would be upset.
As far as line scores are concerned, I'm willing to see them go on line,
particularly with the improvements that have been made. It seems to me
that the contester community is overwhelmingly more on-line than the total
ARRL member population, and that those young newbies we talk about
attracting are also likely to be able to access things on the web.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Tue Jul 23 16:11:31 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
References: <200207231928.g6NJS6311097@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <03a201c23285$23be2be0$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>Is Kid Q. Public more likely to find a QST at a local newstand - or stumble
>upon the ARRL Web Page on the net?
So why not have the option of BOTH?
You want to eliminate something that does not fit your agenda, then don't
support it, or LIMIT the public support of it ... and hope it will just go
away.
You want to grow a market, find new participants, then you EXPAND
your influence. You do not overlook any potential points of contact. You
constantly look for new opportunities to advance your cause ...
So which of the above describes the ARRL strategy for ... contesting?
We saw the handwriting on the wall 6 months ago, and we realized that
there was nothing that could be done to change it. The fuss then was
that "they" were going to do it without membership comment. And what
difference did all of our posts make? Nothing. Now it is a done deal ...
The potential of the website format is unknown, and what if another
"voice vote" is taken that says due to cost considerations it goes away?
What is certain is the loss of a known point of contact and positive
encouragement within the printed material to give new exposure of
contesting to future participants.
73 Billy AA4NU
>From w1wef at c4.net Tue Jul 23 17:52:08 2002
From: w1wef@c4.net (Jack Schuster)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST contest content
Message-ID: <3D3DC1F8.9426FD1C@c4.net>
I too like what I see on the web ...far more room there and more data
than we've ever seen in print anywhere. I still expect to see writeups
after each contest in QST...only the scores outside of the box scores
will move to the web.
Submit a general interest article on contesting for QST and see what
happens!
73 JACK W1WEF
>From w1wef at c4.net Tue Jul 23 18:17:06 2002
From: w1wef@c4.net (Jack Schuster)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re QST contest results
Message-ID: <3D3DC7D2.7BB26650@c4.net>
Ed...if you want to transfer your life membership to me for what you
paid for it, I'd be interested and I'm almost 65!
Too much is being made of this. The web reports are more thorough than
anything ANY magazine ever published. There WILL still be writeups on
contesting in QST. We get more than a magazine for our dues.I believe
there are something like 175,000 League members, and we are happy to see
3500 or so contest log submissions for a contest.
Way back when, I handled traffic and read the section reports. Who
knows...there might be more people reading them than contest results!
Let's lighten up on the Director bashing over this. They don't get paid
all that much. :>) JACK W1WEF
>From ford at cmgate.com Tue Jul 23 17:20:04 2002
From: ford@cmgate.com (Ford Peterson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Bashing
Message-ID: <001c01c2328e$bcdf70a0$a6ee83d1@office>
Have you ever been working a contest an run into somebody demanding that you
to crawl back under your rock? I have heard it. So have you...
There is a huge contingent of hams, our director's constituents too, that
hate contesters. They wouldn't stop on a road side for an opportunity to p_
e in your face if they saw you burning. They hate you. And I mean hate.
Why? The perception of bandwidth wasting I suspect. Possibly
inconvenience. Who knows. The point is they are vocal and perhaps the ARRL
is listening to that group at the same time they listen to this group --
(net = zero.)
The question is, how much of this is really economics and how much of it is
political? It would be impossible, politically speaking, to publicly
support the contest haters. We're too big a group. Likewise, it must be
coming increasingly difficult to support contesters -- because the contest
haters are growing in number. What better solution than to blame the
economics of the few pages in QST?
Any comments?
Ford-N0FP
ford@cmgate.com
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Tue Jul 23 18:53:54 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] FD Cleanup--final.
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKEDADKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
I received multiple comments from folks who do not believe
that skin-so-soft repels mosquitos. As far as I am concerned,
it's an essential requirement of a dxpedition kit.
In 50% solution with water, this stuff IS effective. We have
used it sailing in the Caribean, for both mosquitos and no see 'ums.
We use it every day, here in Vermont, against both mosquitos and
black flies.
On days when I'm working on landscaping or antennas, I literally
shower in the stuff, at the end of my morning shower. Mosquitos land...
but get up and go away. Black flies don't even land.
And unlike OFF and Cutter, it doesn't contain insecticides which
can be absorbed into your skin. Both of those are NOT supposed
to be sprayed on skin.
Because this is of marginal relevance, it's my last word on the subject.
Don't believe me; try it yourself. Or don't.
Incidentally, it removes pine tar from clothes and hair, and, if you've
followed this thread, the residue of OFF from my laptop and 756PRO,
without damage.
Live long and prosper.
N2EA
>From k4ww at arrl.net Tue Jul 23 18:57:19 2002
From: k4ww@arrl.net (Shelby Summerville)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <E17X0ok-00032e-00@granger.mail.mindspring.net>
Message-ID: <003501c23293$eaebd2e0$87badc0c@insightbb.com>
"Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com wrote: "Personally, I find QST of little
interest of value. As the League is interested in cost cutting, perhaps they
should consider a dual-priced membership"
As a Life Member, I will trade my subscription to QST for a lifetime
subscription to NCJ!
C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
>From windev at inetmarket.com Tue Jul 23 19:15:21 2002
From: windev@inetmarket.com (Gerry Hull)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
Message-ID: <20020723181319.5B76.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
any complaints about that?
73,
Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
>From kc5ykx at swbell.net Tue Jul 23 18:06:26 2002
From: kc5ykx@swbell.net (Reid Hill)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Removing Field Day residue from my QST
Message-ID: <0GZQ002YS2QQHO@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net>
Lighter fluid and a match.
07/23/2002 6:52:09 AM, Tree <tree@kkn.net> wrote:
>Can I use Skin-So-Soft to remove the contest line scores from my old QSTs?
>
>Tree
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>From memberlist at www.arrl.org Tue Jul 23 19:08:22 2002
From: memberlist@www.arrl.org (ARRL Web site)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARLB046 "Section News," Line Scores Moving from QST to Web
Message-ID: <5.1.1.2.2.20020723180806.00b62448@mail.attbi.com>
ZCZC AG46
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 46 ARLB046
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT July 23, 2002
To all radio amateurs
SB QST ARL ARLB046
ARLB046 "Section News," Line Scores Moving from QST to Web
Starting next January, "Section News" and contest line score results
will appear on the ARRL Web site rather than in QST. Meeting July
19-20 in Windsor, Connecticut, the ARRL Board of Directors voted 9-6
to approve a resolution formally relocating "Section News" to the
ARRL Web site. "Section News" has appeared in the League's official
journal at least since 1919. The "Section News" Web sites--already
in place--will provide the officials of each ARRL section "the
capability of an up-to-date information resource that can be
tailored to the needs of their section," the resolution said.
The space freed up by relocating "Section News" will allow more
in-depth coverage of general news, public service activities and
"how-to" articles aimed at involving more amateurs in emergency
preparedness. Members unable to use the Web can request their
section's reports in hard-copy format.
The Board resolution noted that the past six months had given
members the opportunity to understand the reasons for relocating
"Section News," to discuss alternatives and to better understand
and see the advantages of the expanded content available on the Web
site.
Voting for the change were Directors Dick Isely, W9GIG (Central);
Jay Bellows, K0QB (Dakota); Frank Fallon, N2FF (Hudson); Wade
Walstrom, W0EJ (Midwest); Tom Frenaye, K1KI (New England); Dennis
Bodson, W4PWF (Roanoke); Walt Stinson, W0CP (Rocky Mountain); Art
Goddard, W6XD (Southwestern); and Coy Day, N5OK (West Gulf).
Directors Bernie Fuller, N3EFN (Atlantic); Rick Roderick, K5UR
(Delta); George Race, WB8BGY (Great Lakes); Greg Milnes, W7OZ
(Northwestern); Jim Maxwell, W6CF (Pacific); and Frank Butler, W4RH
(Southeastern), voted against the change.
In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed
that the ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the
results of ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will
appear in QST. The change does not affect ARRL Field Day results,
which will continue to be published in the magazine.
A Web site established earlier this year now includes, among other
features, a searchable database of contest line scores for members
and the ability to easily analyze individual and club scores.
There's also an on-line Soapbox to post comments and photos
immediately after a contest, as well as an expanded narrative for
each event. The ARRL also now offers members the free Contest Rate
Sheet newsletter, which focuses specifically on contesting.
NNNN
/EX
>From kcechura at umr.edu Tue Jul 23 18:33:16 2002
From: kcechura@umr.edu (Ken Cechura)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20020723173152.019fb268@pop3.umr.edu>
I see results posted up here all the time... think it's possible to post
somethign on UPCOMING contests (maybe just what it is, when it is, and
maybe the general theme...)?
just a dumb question.....
thanks
Ken
||==============================||
// Kenneth R. Cechura, KC9UMR \\
// kcechura@umr.edu \\
\\ Station Trustee, KF9ART //
\\ Freq Amateur Radio Team //
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>From jfunk at adams.net Tue Jul 23 18:17:41 2002
From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] bringing up newbies
Message-ID: <000101c2329a$bb836ca0$04288ad8@adams.net>
In regards to the QST contesting coverage, the following are my opinions,
free and worth every penny:
1) The change to web coverage from print coverage for line scores is
happening. We'll see how it works.
2) ARRL is more than QST. I'm a life member (recently). I'm not gonna ask
for my money back.
3) Contesting will be saved by the contest community, not by magazine
coverage.
a) The "each one bring one" approach is superb.
b) Start young. Look at BARC's "Kids Day". Not a contest. Read the
comments from those who submit logs. "When can we do this again?" "Do we
have to wait a whole six months?" These are the *kids'* comments, not the
old gray guys that were the control ops.
c) Give a program. Not many clubs will refuse a program on contesting
at a monthly meeting. Most program chairmen are desperate for something to
fill a slot. There are probably dozens of members of the contesting
community who have material they'd love to share, complete with slides,
tapes, Power Points, you-name-it.
d) Be a mentor at Field Day. Forego your normal operating time (if
necessary) to sit by a newcomer and coach him/her through some contacts on
SSB or CW.
e) Teach a class. Most of the members of our local club who are active
contesters came up through our club-sponsored licensing classes; and yes,
many started as no-codes.
f) Join a contesting club. If you're a member of SMC, I don't have to
explain this. If you're not, check the number of SMC entries in the last
two Sweepstakes....
g) Host a multi-op. NG9R and I invited KC0MYA (licensed two
months....no-code) here for ARRL VHF in June. He operated several hours and
had a ball...and conditions were lousy. We told him HF was even more fun.
"Wow, I've gotta start studying my code!" He has. Should be a General in a
couple of weeks. AB9DU was licensed a year ago in April. We got him on the
air for Field Day two months later. Not a contest. See how many contacts
you can make. Can you get through the pileup on that KL7? Wanna try CQing?
I'll log for you. Whaddaya think of this logging program? Pretty neat, eh?
Not a contest. Uh-huh.... He's Extra Class, DXCC in one year, goes nuts in
contests, Lighthouse Days, etc.
Sorry I've gotten carried away here. But we can do this....
73, Jim N9JF
>From k1my at msn.com Tue Jul 23 16:59:43 2002
From: k1my@msn.com (Bruce Makas)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] line scores
Message-ID: <032401c2329c$a2fa6100$0101a8c0@pavilion>
In a separate resolution approved by voice vote, the Board agreed
that the ARRL Web site now provides a better medium to report the
results of ARRL-sponsored contests, and line scores no longer will
appear in QST. The change does not affect ARRL Field Day results,
which will continue to be published in the magazine.
************************
And of course, since there was a "voice vote" those in favor and those
against will be kept a secret from the membership. Why the secrecy on this
emotional issue? Afraid of reprisals?
Bruce
>From k5zd at charter.net Wed Jul 24 00:20:48 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
In-Reply-To: <3D3D77A9.FA876B88@gte.net>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDCECIDLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Or...
John Q. Public picks up a QST at the local newsstand and skims through it.
He sees a bunch of pages of call signs and numbers. He thinks "boring", and
puts it back down. Jane Q. Ham pretty much does the same thing when QST
arrives in the mail.
Let's face it. If your call isn't included, line scores are pretty boring.
Writeups that just say callsign 1 beat callsign 2 are also pretty dry and
boring. I actually find myself reading through NCJ thinking there are too
many contest scores in there!
For me, the most entertaining part of QST these days is the section up front
with the photos of people doing interesting stuff. The ARRL has been active
in recruiting people to take on the job of contest write-ups. If you have a
talent for generating excitement through the written word, contact N1ND and
volunteer to help! If you aren't a writer, submit some pictures and fun
anecdotes about what happened in the contest to N1ND or the appointed
contest reporter.
QST is full color throughout. No reason we can't put some of that to use in
promoting the fun, thrill, and competition of radio sport.
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ron Wetjen
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 15:35 PM
> To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Follow The Money
>
>
> Schulz Jonathan wrote:
>
> > My take on the whole thing; if the Web coverage could give us the
> > results in a more timely manner and continue to be as good as the
> > ones I have seen so far, (SS, ARRL 160) I couldn't care less that
> > they are dropping line scores in QST.
>
> Why is everyone missing the point?
>
> Kid Q. Public picks up a QST at the local newsstand and skims through
> it. He sees a bunch of "low tech" articles and a lot of nice photos of
> people doing stuff with HT's. He thinks "geeks", and puts it back
> down. (He wont bother to visit the ARRL Web site - thinking it's more
> "geek" stuff.)
>
> On the other hand, he runs across something about a "contest" which
> catches his eye - COOL! He buys QST, and reads further, and perhaps
> sparks his interest in Amateur Radio and getting involved in
> contesting. That "hook" will no longer be there.
>
> If people don't even know something exists, how will they find out about
> it?
>
> Ron
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>From w7why at harborside.com Wed Jul 24 01:48:33 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723084201.0248a960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <3D3DEB51.AF3EB6AF@harborside.com>
Pete Smith wrote:
>Starting next January, "Section News" and
> contest line score results will appear on the ARRL Web site >rather than in
> QST.
Probably in the "members only" section, I suppose.
Tom W7WHY
>From w7why at harborside.com Wed Jul 24 01:58:36 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References:
<20020723085149.20088.h009.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <3D3DEDAC.5B75C2FB@harborside.com>
"Michael Keane, K1MK" wrote:
> There'd be a price difference because... ?
Because not everyone is interested in being a member of the ARRL,
but they might want to read the mag (for what reason excapes me).
Tom W7WHY
>From w7why at harborside.com Wed Jul 24 02:10:59 2002
From: w7why@harborside.com (Tom Osborne)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] league bashing//tree hugging//results
References: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHKECJDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <3D3DF093.46179D29@harborside.com>
jljarvis wrote:
> If you find ARRL flawed, YOU are responsible. Become involved.
> And stop whining.
>
I'm responsible? How do you figure that? Involved with what? I
didn't push for codeless licenses or dumbing down the tests. I
was a VE for years but quit because nobody wants to learn code
any more. I belonged to RACES, but nobody could agree where the
station should be or who should be the "boss." Got sick of that!
Went to field day last year and they had a TS-520 on the table
that nobody knew how to tune up (including some general class
operators).
Why doesn't the ARRL just publish the whole magazine on the web?
Oh yeah, they wouldn't get any ad money. As long as they can
keep a token of a magazine going, they can still put ad's in it.
Till the radio companies get tired supporting a magazine that
more and more people don't want to read anyway. Then what?
Tom W7WHY
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Tue Jul 23 21:30:16 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] QST and Contest Coverage
References: <5.1.1.6.2.20020723155910.024b8d90@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <063301c232b1$b18cf380$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>Unless and until I know what the Board's intentions in this regard are, I'm
>not condemning anybody. It DOES concern me, though, that nothing was said,
>because I know these news releases are carefully written. If no line
>scores means no improvement/expansion in other contest coverage in QST,
>then I would be upset.
Pete,
If I were planning the strategy of this series of miss-steps, I'd do
exactly what has been done. Do what you need to do, but allow for
a rather vague and at the time of decision, "unknown" response.
There's tremendous power in such a strategy view. They can take
a wait and see response, weather out the initial unloading of emotion,
and then do the very minimum amount of damage control needed.
That's the day to day Corporate 101 strategy and control process.
We've got some "good contest folks" inside the ARRL ... that are now
caught in the middle of this silent zone. Let's keep that in mind. Those
are the ones who will be given the challenge to put a positive spin on
what just occurred. If they don't ... then look for more departures from
members, directors, and paid staff there.
What's next ... no more support for CW? Wider phone bands then?
73 Billy AA4NU (who is still wondering ... where are the cost savings?)
>From k4vud at hotmail.com Wed Jul 24 02:53:50 2002
From: k4vud@hotmail.com (Charles Harpole)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Cabrillio format reporting problems
Message-ID: <LAW2-F100wXCPa8lMES00011033@hotmail.com>
Call me a "giver upper" or whatever, but I give up on reporting my contest
logs in Cabrillio format. I purchased AGAIN a new version of CT and have
tried to generate the proper log format acceptable to CQ and ARRL. I have
never gotten it right. I have listened to and read advice from well-meaning
helpers. I have still not gotten it right. I have had generous HQ guys
convert my logs for me. But, I did not get it right by muself.
At this point in my ham career/interest, I just do not have the gumption or
whatever it takes to mess with it. Call me old fashioned, but I just like
to print out the log on real paper and mail that in along with my REAL PAPER
signed cover form.
Since that is no longer acceptable, for the time being, I will simply love
to run contests and keep my logs home in my dadburned balky computer. I
will try to find the score lists, where ever the sponsors POST them, and
imaginatively insert my score and enjoy my placement as good as it may be.
My effort would not be printed in the magazines anymore anyway. Sorry FCG,
my dab of numbers will not join yours, as much as my wishing could make it
so. 73,
Charles Harpole
k4vud@hotmail.com
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>From ford at cmgate.com Tue Jul 23 21:57:15 2002
From: ford@cmgate.com (Ford Peterson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Bashing
References: <001c01c2328e$bcdf70a0$a6ee83d1@office>
Message-ID: <007401c232b5$70416b00$0300a8c0@Lab>
The question is, how much of this QST stuff is really economics and how
much of it is
political? It would be impossible, politically speaking, to publicly
support the contest haters. We're too big a group. Likewise, it must be
coming increasingly difficult to support contesters -- because the contest
haters are growing in number. What better solution than to blame the
economics of the few pages in QST?
Any comments?
Ford-N0FP
ford@cmgate.com
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>From k7qq at netzero.net Wed Jul 24 04:49:05 2002
From: k7qq@netzero.net (Rex Maner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] K3EST E-Mail Address??
Message-ID: <00f701c232c5$45269de0$79f93442@k7qq>
Here is the one I have
K3EST@cqww.com
Quack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary K9GS" <GaryK9GS@wi.rr.com>
To: "CQ Contest Mail Reflector" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:46
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K3EST E-Mail Address??
> Does anyone have K3EST's correct e-mail address??
>
> Both the mailto on the CQ Magazine web page and the K3EST@mother.com
bounce.
>
>
> 73,
> Gary
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> K9GS
> Gary Schwartz email: k9gs@arrl.net
> Check out K9NS on the web http://www.qsl.net/k9ns/
> Society of Midwest Contesters (SMC) GMDXA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
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>From wc4h at itis.net Wed Jul 24 00:37:27 2002
From: wc4h@itis.net (Carl - WC4H)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [FCG] Cabrillio format reporting problems
References: <LAW2-F100wXCPa8lMES00011033@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c232c3$703b4820$5000a8c0@winxp>
Hmmm. I created mine no problem. There's nothing special to do.
Just use the "writelog" command from the program. Then go to the directory
where you log is at and you'll see a file k4vud.log.
Email it to the contest sponsor. You're done!
Caveats:
1. You filled out the program info on the first screen of CT.
2. You entered whatever the contest sponsor says to enter in your subject
line.
Carl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Harpole" <k4vud@hotmail.com>
To: <fcg@mailman.qth.net>; <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:53 PM
Subject: [FCG] Cabrillio format reporting problems
> Call me a "giver upper" or whatever, but I give up on reporting my contest
> logs in Cabrillio format. I purchased AGAIN a new version of CT and have
> tried to generate the proper log format acceptable to CQ and ARRL. I have
> never gotten it right. I have listened to and read advice from
well-meaning
> helpers. I have still not gotten it right. I have had generous HQ guys
> convert my logs for me. But, I did not get it right by muself.
> At this point in my ham career/interest, I just do not have the gumption
or
> whatever it takes to mess with it. Call me old fashioned, but I just like
> to print out the log on real paper and mail that in along with my REAL
PAPER
> signed cover form.
> Since that is no longer acceptable, for the time being, I will simply love
> to run contests and keep my logs home in my dadburned balky computer. I
> will try to find the score lists, where ever the sponsors POST them, and
> imaginatively insert my score and enjoy my placement as good as it may be.
> My effort would not be printed in the magazines anymore anyway. Sorry
FCG,
> my dab of numbers will not join yours, as much as my wishing could make it
> so. 73,
>
> Charles Harpole
> k4vud@hotmail.com
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> The Florida Contest Group: http://www.qsl.net/fcg/ or
http://www.fcg.club
> Post your scores: http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
> FCG QSL Cards: http://www.qth.com/star/FCG
> FCG Cluster Information: http://www.qsl.net/fcg/cluster.html
> FCG Shirts & Hats: http://www.qsl.net/fcg/cart.html
> FCG@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/fcg
>
>From k3ft at erols.com Wed Jul 24 00:22:12 2002
From: k3ft@erols.com (Chuck K3FT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] vote on removing contest items from QST
References: <3D3DF96C.46A2@erols.com> <3D3DFA0D.2993@erols.com>
<3D3E14D7.358A@erols.com> <3D3E2336.77FE@erols.com> <3D3E241F.508E@erols.com>
Message-ID: <3D3E2B74.5363@erols.com>
Hi!
Since my concerns about why votes were taken in one area yet not in another
along with
other questions were elevated, I decided to ask EACH director who was there for
some
solid, honest answers. Here is what I asked each and every one. I thought many
of you
have the same questions. Perhaps I will receive responses and that will provide
us all
some accurate 'from the horse's mouths' answers to the questions we all have.
All I want is honest truthful answers. I may not agree with the decision, but I
can
handle the truth. I may be out of bounds asking the questions, but as a member
of the
group I believe we have the duty to inquire so as to be informed as to what our
elected
representatives are up to. Keep everything straight and on the up and up.
I'll let you all know what I get back. I figure posting it here will give
everyone the
'straight scoop' that I get and help eliminate the 'I heard..' 'He said..' 'I
think I
read...' syndrome we are all aware of. I will provide complete sourcing so you
will be
able to track it for yourself.
73
CHuck K3FT
==================================
Hello,
As a paid-up, currently enrolled, ARRL member I need to ask a question. I would
appreciate an honest answer. I ask in seriousness, nnot seeking to bash or cast
aspersions or dissension. I really want to know as a member of the ARRL.
I noted that the vote was recorded for the removal of section news but only a
VOICE VOTE
(no record of vote) was taken on the issue of removing contest items from QST
and
placing them on the web.
#1 Question - How did you vote on the removal of contest items from QST?
#2 Question - Why was there a recorded roll call vote for Section news removal
and NOT
for contest items removal? Why was one considered 'less necessary to record the
vote' than the other since both involved 'niche' components of the total ARRL
membership and QST page allocation? (The cynical ones scream 'Political cover!'
but I am
inclined to wait for the answer from those who were there before I draw any
conclusions.)
#3 Question - Who voted YEA (FOR removal) and NAY (AGAINST removal) of contest
items
from QST?
#4 Question - Has the 3 proposal item produced by Ward Silver N0AX ( at the
request of
the ARRL when the issue of removing QST coverage of contest items came up) been
recieved, read, and has any comments been made as to the proposal's validity and
possible adoption by ARRL?
Again, I am seeking honest answers to some very tough questions. Many of the
ARRL
members who have spoken publicly (and privately) have commented on the fact
that the
more publicized issue (contest items) was unrecorded while the less
controverisal item
(section news) WAS recorded. To them.. it contains a ratehr intense aroma of
rather
rancid fish and gives grave concern as to the relevance of ARRL to many of them.
Personally.. I am in favor of ARRL, it's all we have and it is needed.. BUT I
am not a
rose colored glasses guy who says 'My League.. regardless of whatever happens!'
I
support the ARRL but I MUST question those in charge responsible for handling
things for
me to be open, upfront and above board... even if it risks 'insulting the
higher ups'.
It keeps the membership honest and keeps the lines of communications open both
ways.
I have no perception that you would be anything else than responsible, ethical,
and
open, and would appreciate aanswers to my questions.
If the ARRL mgmt has said you cannot comment or otherwise.. that's fine. If
it's the
truth.. then it's the truth and I can and do respect that. However, I would
like to
know the reality and the truth.
Thanks for reading. I look forward to hearing from you .
vy 73
Chuck K3FT
>From swca at swbell.net Wed Jul 24 05:45:14 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <20020723165301.46537.qmail@web10502.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <014501c232f6$d0ea6100$0100a8c0@TL01>
>It's too bad that contesters didn't support the NCJ in
>the past and it had to be saved by the ARRL.
Spilled milk. Yes, it is too bad.
I would also have preferred the NCJ to have remained unaffiliated with the
ARRL (I published it in the 70s). I was concerned we would lose a valuable
non-ARRL-centered forum.
But now, thanks to the efforts of the web-pioneers among us (Trey and Bill
come to mind, and we all know there are a bunch of others), we have got a
non-ARRL-centered forum now which is much more powerful than any print
periodical ever was or ever will be.
I don't think this "QST pages" thing is a big deal, and more power to the
ARRL for exercising responsible cost management. Every time I read about
how the ARRL responded to an FCC proposal, which is frequent and
comprehensive, THAT is when I say "my ARRL dollars at work."
Any more, I could take or leave QST, but that is of relatively little
importance to me. I trust the new marketing and development people to use
QST however they have to, to best ensure the future of ham radio.
"The future is the WEB, man."
Mark, N5OT
>From jim at forsyth.net Wed Jul 24 05:21:12 2002
From: jim@forsyth.net (Jim Forsyth)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: Vote
Message-ID: <005a01c23304$3aa36df0$81e4fea9@Hailsham>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Art Goddard" <w6xd@attbi.com>
To: "Jim Forsyth" <jim@forsyth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: Vote
> Jim-
>
> Thanks for your interest in ARRL Board activities!
>
> I support the Board's decision to complete the relocation of ARRL contest
> line scores to the ARRL web.
>
> 73, Art W6XD
>From jmaass at columbus.rr.com Wed Jul 24 10:04:42 2002
From: jmaass@columbus.rr.com (Jeff Maass)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <20020723181319.5B76.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Message-ID: <NABBJJMHMOJDAICFPIFDEEHJENAA.jmaass@columbus.rr.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Gerry Hull
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 18:15
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
>
>
> Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
> results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
> any complaints about that?
>
> 73,
>
> Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
Perhaps because CQ is not the membership journal of our
organization, but simply a business.
CQ is not answerable to any of us, but ARRL should be.
Jeff Maass jmaass@columbus.rr.com Located near Columbus Ohio
USPSA # L-1192 NROI/CRO Amateur Radio K8ND
Maass' IPSC Resources Page: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass
Circleville USPSA/IPSC: http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/pcsiipsc.htm
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Wed Jul 24 10:11:37 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] sure...
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHIEDFDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
Sure....
but you'll smell like a wuss!
Jim, N2EA
From: Tree <tree@kkn.net>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Removing Field Day residue from my QST
Can I use Skin-So-Soft to remove the contest line scores from my old QSTs?
Tree
-0-
>From jljarvis at adelphia.net Wed Jul 24 10:28:11 2002
From: jljarvis@adelphia.net (jljarvis)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] contest & QST bashing, redux
Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFILKFAICDBOGHIEDGDKAA.jljarvis@adelphia.net>
From: "Ford Peterson" <ford@cmgate.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Bashing
Have you ever been working a contest an run into somebody demanding that you
to crawl back under your rock? I have heard it. So have you...
There is a huge contingent of hams, our director's constituents too, that
hate contesters. They wouldn't stop on a road side for an opportunity to p_
e in your face if they saw you burning. They hate you. And I mean hate.
Why? ... Who knows. The point is they are vocal and perhaps the ARRL
is listening to that group at the same time they listen to this group --
(net = zero.)
The question is, how much of this is really economics and how much of it is
political? It would be impossible, politically speaking, to publicly
support the contest haters. We're too big a group. Likewise, it must be
coming increasingly difficult to support contesters -- because the contest
haters are growing in number. What better solution than to blame the
economics of the few pages in QST? Any comments?
-0-
Yes. My monitoring during the week, at odd hours, suggests that the bands
are increasingly UNoccupied. It is true that contests produce bedlam
and disorder, and contention for frequencies, and I'm sure they seriously
anger people in various constituencies.
It has been variously observed that contesters are a)opinion leaders,
b)majority
constituents of ARRL, c)majority of licensees, and d) better trained
communicators,
e) with better equipped stations. And they smell good, too, I suppose.
Without
data to prove any of that, all arguments are only words in a sea of words.
Is there survey information available from CQ, QST, Contesting.com, and other
sites
which, when assembled, might allow us to make some defensible general
assertions
about the 'sport' and the dimensions of its community? Does this suggest a
project for someone?
For the record, I favor the online reporting of timely results, the
conservation of
trees, and printing more interesting stories about contests, rather than line
scores, which generate about as much enthusiasm as pickled beets.
Rather than bashing the ARRL directors for leading....let's encourage them
to CONTINUE to lead, by expanding the editorial content.
N2EA
>From n2mg at eham.net Wed Jul 24 11:44:54 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
Message-ID: <200207241344.g6ODir5r023224@contesting.com>
You can get upcoming contest info from several online sources already,
so there's really no need (and probably a bad idea) to repost the info
here.
Some online calendars:
http://www.sk3bg.se/contest/
http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/weeklycont.html
http://www.contesting.com
http://www.arrl.org/contests/calendar.html
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/awards.html
If you like email reminders, try the contest Rate Sheet that the ARRL
and NØAX puts out
http://www.arrl.org/contests/rate-sheet/about.html
73 Mike N2MG
The following message was sent by Ken Cechura <kcechura@umr.edu> on Tue, 23 Jul
2002 17:33:16 -0700.
> I see results posted up here all the time... think it's
> possible to post somethign on UPCOMING contests (maybe just
> what it is, when it is, and maybe the general theme...)?
>From n2mg at eham.net Wed Jul 24 11:53:42 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <200207241353.g6ODrg5r023359@contesting.com>
Tom Osborne wrote:
>
> Pete Smith wrote:
>
> > Starting next January, "Section News" and contest line score
> > results will appear on the ARRL Web site >rather than in QST.
>
> Probably in the "members only" section, I suppose.
ARRL has been publishing contest results in Members Only for the first
month or so, but then moving them to the open section. So non-members
have been able to get a free ride (if one were willing to wait a
month) - no need to join or to even buy QST to see the results. I
suspect this procedure will continue.
Mike N2MG
>From k2av at contesting.com Wed Jul 24 10:57:14 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020723173152.019fb268@pop3.umr.edu>
Message-ID: <004901c2331a$04214250$0500a8c0@swift>
Do a Google search on "ham radio contest calendar" and pick the one
you like the best. Keep a "bookmark" or "favorites" entry (or whatever
your browser calls it). They have the rules for everything and all
that goes on in any given week. That makes it just a click away.
Would be a waste of bandwidth to be constantly shoving it into
people's email boxes.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Cechura" <kcechura@umr.edu>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:33 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
> I see results posted up here all the time... think it's possible to
post
> somethign on UPCOMING contests (maybe just what it is, when it is,
and
> maybe the general theme...)?
>
> just a dumb question.....
>
> thanks
> Ken
>
> ||==============================||
> // Kenneth R. Cechura, KC9UMR \\
> // kcechura@umr.edu \\
> \\ Station Trustee, KF9ART //
> \\ Freq Amateur Radio Team //
> ||==============================||
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Wed Jul 24 10:07:36 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020723173152.019fb268@pop3.umr.edu>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJMEGJEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Ken,
The info is available 24/7 online:
http://www.arrl.org/contests/calendar.html?year=2002
http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/weeklycont.html
http://www.sk3bg.se/contest/
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/awards.html
http://www.ncjweb.com/contests.php
There's also the e-mailed ARRL Contester's Rate Sheet newsletter, edited by
Ward Silver/N0AX, containing close-in log due dates, upcoming contests and
articles about contests and contesters. See
http://www.arrl.org/contests/rate-sheet/
The Contester's Rate Sheet lists the top 3 URL's above as sources for its
calendar listing of upcoming contests (with descriptions, URL's, etc.).
73,
dale, kg5u
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ken Cechura
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 19:33
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] dumb question
>
>
> I see results posted up here all the time... think it's possible to post
> somethign on UPCOMING contests (maybe just what it is, when it is, and
> maybe the general theme...)?
>
> just a dumb question.....
>
> thanks
> Ken
>
> ||==============================||
> // Kenneth R. Cechura, KC9UMR \\
> // kcechura@umr.edu \\
> \\ Station Trustee, KF9ART //
> \\ Freq Amateur Radio Team //
> ||==============================||
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From Jimk8mr at aol.com Wed Jul 24 11:19:08 2002
From: Jimk8mr@aol.com (Jimk8mr@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] One Month and Counting
Message-ID: <119.14dca54c.2a70115c@aol.com>
Summer as always seems to go too quickly. In fact, so quickly it is now only
one month to the 2002 Ohio QSO Party, on Saturday, August 24.
What to do about it?
1. Mark you calendar so you don't get stuck having to visit your wife's
relatives that day. Or make plans to visit those relatives in Ohio.
2. If you use WriteLog, get the new module for the OQP. This was written by
Steve, N9OH, and is available at
<A
HREF="http://www.xnet.com/~sjwoodr/ham/modules";>http://www.xnet.com/~sjwoodr/ham/modules</A>
3. If you don't have software that supports OQP, get the free demo version
of NA which does. This can be downloaded at the OQP web site,
www.mrrc.net/oqp
4. For the latest info on who's going to be active, what mobiles are going
where, etc., subscribe to the OQP reflector. This can be done at the OQP web
site, or by sending a blank email message to
oqp-subscribe@mrrc.net
You'll get the usual confirmation message to which you just need to hit reply
and send.
5. Be ready to have fun working all us OH stations, including one of the
best groups of mobiles of all the state QSO parties.
See you in the Ohio QSO Party, Saturday, August 24. For people in Florida,
that's 31 days away!
Jim K8MR
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>From discreetly_confidential at yahoo.com Wed Jul 24 09:08:53 2002
From: discreetly_confidential@yahoo.com (Chuck)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Answers to questions I asked.
Message-ID: <20020724150853.80770.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com>
Greetings.
I recieved a multitude of replies from over 50%
of the Directors in response to my request for
answers to my questions. Many were long,
detailed, and contained a lot of information on
how the process worked, how it was handled, the
procedures/protocols involved and much
information which fleshed out the issue for me.
here is a summary of what I received. Although
not all have replied as of this time (and I agree
the time has been short). I believe what I DID
recieve is representative of what the others will
present me due to the consistency of response in
that each person's perspective and information
had the same basic foundation and configuration.
I SENSE NO colusion in responses because it would
be damn difficult to get all those folks to agree
to lie, prevaricate, or shade the truth in this
matter.
Therefore, I accept what they provided as true,
accurate, and straight shooting. That is what I
expected and I was not dissapointed.Therefore, I
believe I can draw some conclusions which I
present for your consideration.
First and foremost.. EACH respondent who answered
me was exceedinly polite, open and honest with
answers, information, and 'extra info' to flesh
out the skeleton of information that I available
to me. Several (including my own Director, N3EFN,
took me on a 'handholding tour' of theprocess and
explained nooks, crannies, and the eddy currents
involved. He didn't have to do that... but he
did. THis further amplified my belief that all
were shooting straight and I could rely on what
they were telling me.
Each one, who responded with information, took
the time to explain their position and provide
some thinking as to what was going on.
Therefore, I wish to thank them all PUBLICLY for
the responses and I find myself reinforced that
things were done above board and without any
shenanigans.
OK.. Here's what I have.
First.. the vote. Several of the Directors
reported that the vote to move the line scores to
the Web was a UNANIMOUS vote. This answered
questions #1 and #2 fully. These were the two
main ones I wanted to know about.
Several noted that the debate over the issue was
'hearty and lively'.
They confirmed that all votes are voice votes and
not all are recorded. Since the vote was
unanimous no record was made.
(ASIDE - I DID responsd that had a simple one
line entry in the public announcement said 'The
vote to move the contest line scores was
unanimously in favor' it would have elimintaed my
need to ask the questions.)
They all retirerated that now that the decision
is made, they will support the decision and move
ahead with the actions necessary to implement the
changes agreed to.
As to having read/seen N0AX (et al) proposal, the
basic comment was that theywere aware of it, but
due to the fact it was presented at/quite near
the meeting they had not had time to read it
fully. This is logical and Ward did confirm that
it was submitted right about the time of the
meeting.
My questions have been answered to my
satisfaction. Each Director who responded did so
with the attitude that my questions were asked in
the spirit of wanting to know - as I intended
them to be recieved. Given the short fuse (Sent
at midnight EDST the previous night and answers
recieved by 10AM this morning!) it was over 50
percent which is good!
Any negative comments/observations expressed in
my original questions were only expressed as an
indicator of what was being heard/read by me in
public/private forums and was not MY opinion or
understanding. I felt they should know what a
simple 'trench-warrior' was hearing.
IN summary.. I am satisfied and my questions have
been answered fully. I have no further concerns
with the way things were done. I further applaud
their responsiveness and openess in filling me in
with the way things are done and handled.
So.. to the Directors.. thank you very much for
your responses.. your desire to inform.. and your
speed in responding.
This may not still the debates in teh Contest
community.. but at least it provides a public
forum for discussion.
vy 73
Chuck K3FT
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>From k0luz at topsusa.com Wed Jul 24 12:50:51 2002
From: k0luz@topsusa.com (K0LUZ)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <200207241353.g6ODrg5r023359@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <LOBBKFICDFPNLHBMOBDKMEDIFJAA.k0luz@topsusa.com>
In a sense, this is one positive for promoting more contest activity
because now the non-member who participates in an ARRL contest can see his
score published on the Internet. As a non-member and not a recipient of
QST, I assume it was difficult to find out how they had scored compared to
others in the same category. This is what is called observing "the glass is
half full."
73
Red
K0LUZ
-----Original Message-----
Tom Osborne wrote:
>
> Pete Smith wrote:
>
> > Starting next January, "Section News" and contest line score
> > results will appear on the ARRL Web site >rather than in QST.
>
> Probably in the "members only" section, I suppose.
ARRL has been publishing contest results in Members Only for the first
month or so, but then moving them to the open section. So non-members
have been able to get a free ride (if one were willing to wait a
month) - no need to join or to even buy QST to see the results. I
suspect this procedure will continue.
Mike N2MG
_______________________________________________
CQ-Contest mailing list
CQ-Contest@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Wed Jul 24 13:17:18 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W4 CW Ops
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207240957170.16252-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Ya'll,
I'm organizing some teams for the upcoming CW NAQP on August 3rd. We
would welcome anyone in W4 in any capacity to join us. We will probably
have at least 2 part-timer teams.
73
Bill, W4AN
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Wed Jul 24 12:49:40 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Answers to questions I asked.
References: <20020724150853.80770.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <021b01c23332$1b43ba40$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>First.. the vote. Several of the Directors
>reported that the vote to move the line scores to
>the Web was a UNANIMOUS vote. This answered
>questions #1 and #2 fully. These were the two
>main ones I wanted to know about.
Sorry ... seems "several of the directors" may have
a problem with their short term memory loss here ...
There was ONE that did not cave in to this vote!
K5UR voted against it ... and he was the only one.
So ... that may skew the rest of the integrity of their
responses to your questions. <sigh> Good grief, if
they can't or won't even recall how the vote went ...
73 Billy AA4NU (cost savings? what cost savings?)
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Wed Jul 24 12:59:50 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <20020723181319.5B76.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Message-ID: <025401c23333$8715d9a0$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
>results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
>any complaints about that?
Apples and oranges here Gerry,
One is a for-profit business ... they can move the WW results to billboards
alongside the road if they chose to do so. Or they can chose to not print
the results, or not to continue support the contests. It's their ball game.
The other is our national organization that months ago stated these
steps were needed for financial reasons ... yet ... there was NO mention
of that in the recent release. Now, whose ball game is this?
73 Billy AA4NU
>From kharker at cs.utexas.edu Wed Jul 24 14:38:08 2002
From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth E. Harker)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest/DX Program at Austin Summerfest 2002
Message-ID: <20020724133808.G29418@cs.utexas.edu>
CTDXCC, the Central Texas DX and Contest Club, once again is pleased to
present an outstanding program at the Austin Summerfest amateur radio
convention in Austin, Texas, 2-3 August, 2002. The program this year will
feature one of the best DXpeditions of the past year, plus two different
aspects of the popular IARU contest held in mid-July.
The VP8THU/VP8GEO "micro-lite" back-to-the-basics DXpedition included a
proven international team to both the South Sandwich Islands and to South
Georgia on the RV Braveheart. George Fremin, K5TR, one of the excellent
operators in the DXpedition, and the group's computer expert, will give a
personal view of his experience, and tips on cracking big pileups from the
home side.
The program on the WRTC 2002 will be presented by Jim George, N3BB, who
was a referee at the 2002 Helsinki, Finland competition, and a competitor at
the 2000 WRTC in Slovenia. Jim will show photographs of the event and the
actual operation by one of the 52 teams, plus comment on the off-line
discussions during bull sessions, meals and tours. He has some
recommendations on improving your contest capability as distilled from
years of contesting experience, and advice from the world class operators
at the WRTC.
Richard King, K5NA, will present the W1AW/5 operation which honored the
Austin area by hosting the ARRL headquarters operation for the 2002 IARU
HF World Chhampionship. Six terrific central Texas stations, K5NA, K5TR,
N5CQ, N5TW, NX5M, and W5KFT operated the IARU as W1AW/5 on all twelve bands,
both SSB and CW. Learn about these stations and their operators, and how
they did (which was very well), plus the innovative internet and logging
system they used so that all six stations had the same database of log
information. Learn about how they dealt with the bad storms which plagued
the area during the IARU contest.
In addition to the program, CTDXCC member Susan King, K5DU, will
be on hand to check DXCC cards for the deserving. Check out
http://www.repeater.org/summerfest/ for information and late breaking
news concerning Summerfest.
--
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Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu
University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
Department of the Computer Sciences VP, Central Texas DX & Contest Club
Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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>From aa4ga at contesting.com Wed Jul 24 16:26:10 2002
From: aa4ga@contesting.com (Lee Hiers, AA4GA)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <025401c23333$8715d9a0$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <3D3EC712.12842.350F66@localhost>
On 24 Jul 2002,, Billy Cox wrote:
> The other is our national organization that months ago stated these
> steps were needed for financial reasons ... yet ... there was NO mention
> of that in the recent release.
Yes, it was mentioned a few months back that the results were
being eliminated from QST for financial reasons, but the
announcement in ARLB046 stated:
"the Board agreed that the ARRL Web site now provides a better
medium to report the results of ARRL-sponsored contests, and line
scores no longer will appear in QST."
Which in no way confirms that this is a cost-
saving measure as they previously "advertised".
I would say that it gives reason for concern for
ARRL's continued sponsorship of contests,
possibly even their support of contesting as an
allowable activity on the bands - I would not be
surprised if they proposed a rules change to the
FCC which would prohibit contesting - if you
boil it down to membership numbers, I'm sure the
majority of members (not active $-spending
members, just numbers of members) would support
total elimination of contesting. It's only a
matter of time.
And I just bought another radio...dangit!
Lee
--
Lee Hiers, AA4GA
Cornelia, GA
mailto:aa4ga@contesting.com
>From 00tlzivney at bsu.edu Wed Jul 24 16:11:20 2002
From: 00tlzivney@bsu.edu (Zivney, Terry L.)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
Message-ID: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBB03@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
Because CQ still publishes the lines scores, top ten boxes, etc.
As far as I can see, the only things moved to the web were
the callsigns of the ops of the multi-op stations and a
small box showing the top single op score in each zone.
Thus, the CQ reporting is essentially unchanged in the
magazine.
Terry Zivney, N4TZ/9
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerry Hull [mailto:windev@inetmarket.com]
Sent: Tue 7/23/2002 5:15 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Cc:
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
any complaints about that?
73,
Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
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>From wu4g at pipeline.com Wed Jul 24 17:27:35 2002
From: wu4g@pipeline.com (Ron Bolton)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Additional Serial ports
Message-ID: <001b01c23350$8fa5c040$a344fea9@com>
Anyone tried using the SIIG PCI Expander boards? These seem to be much more
reasonably priced than the Byterunners and come with a 5 year warranty. (SIIG
2S PCI is $54, and 2 additional ports can be added to board for $24, all 4 use
same INT.) I looked at the USB to Serial converters and while they may be easy
to use, are much more expensive (cheapest 4 port was $125). Any other
suggestions?
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>From n4gi at tampabay.rr.com Wed Jul 24 17:53:17 2002
From: n4gi@tampabay.rr.com (n4gi)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <3D3EC712.12842.350F66@localhost>
Message-ID: <000801c23354$22ee0990$6c01a8c0@EAC>
> I'm sure the
> majority of members (not active $-spending
> members, just numbers of members) would support
> total elimination of contesting. It's only a
> matter of time.
>
> And I just bought another radio...dangit!
>
> Lee
That's right folks, armageddon is looming.
Tell you what Lee (and any others): I can help in this time of gloom! Send
your new rig(s) to my call book address if you want. Oh, I'll take those
pesky amps and antennas off your hands too if you want (you probably won't
need those either).... I'll make sure that soon-to-be worthless stuff is
disposed of properly. ;-)
Blake N4GI
>From windev at inetmarket.com Wed Jul 24 19:59:52 2002
From: windev@inetmarket.com (Gerry Hull)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBB03@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
References: <90A937CA4FC5B247896E968A21A92E7D0DBB03@EMAIL7.bsu.edu>
Message-ID: <20020724184924.4085.WINDEV@inetmarket.com>
Yes, but I take CQ's changes personally -- I was one of the operators at
#1 M/S Canadian station VY2SS... Yet nobody would know that
without reading the web :-)
My comment about CQ was just to stir the pot... This reflector
provides great comedy in the off-contest season!
I have three points:
- I am not a member of ARRL because of QST. I am a member of
ARRL because we need a strong national voice for Amateur Radio.
ARRL, like it or not, is that organization. If another viable
organization existed, then I might consider that. <5% of QST
is of interest to me each month -- CQ, maybe 7%. QEX, 100%.
- CQ should be MORE responsive to complaints, if there are any.
That's because we can vote with our pocketbooks. No politics
involved -- just don't subscribe. In the QST/ARRL scenario, if we
vote with our pocketbooks, amateur radio is in deep do-do. So,
we vote by electing the people we want on the board -- and then they
do what they want anyway :-). Best way to change ARRL is to get
involved, rather than BSing on email reflectors.
- Contests will still be a lot of fun, and be very competitive, and
be a great aspect of amateur radio, no matter where the results are
published, and by whom.
73,
Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
> Because CQ still publishes the lines scores, top ten boxes, etc.
> As far as I can see, the only things moved to the web were
> the callsigns of the ops of the multi-op stations and a
> small box showing the top single op score in each zone.
>
> Thus, the CQ reporting is essentially unchanged in the
> magazine.
>
> Terry Zivney, N4TZ/9
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerry Hull [mailto:windev@inetmarket.com]
> Sent: Tue 7/23/2002 5:15 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Cc:
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
> Just got my latest CQ -- and a bunch of info for CQWW SSB 2001
> results are now moved to the web... How come we have not heard
> any complaints about that?
>
> 73,
>
> Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
>
>
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>From k1ir at designet.com Wed Jul 24 20:23:04 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Line Scores BoD Minute
Message-ID: <vhgq43xnsfbgrxp.240720021923@designet-jsi>
Fellow Contesters and members of the Contest Coverage Working Group,
Below you will find the wording of the BoD minute regarding the decision to
move line scores to the web. Before you draw any conclusions about anything,
take some time to absorb this. We should also give the BoD and HQ some time to
reflect on the proposal we delivered late last week and to prepare and send
along a response. I think it will be a positive one.
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
FROM: "Wilson, Mark K1RO" <mwilson@arrl.org>
TO: 'Jim Idelson' <k1ir@designet.com>
DATE: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:11:47 -0400
RE: RE: re[5]: Proposal delivered
Hi Jim,
Here is the minute from the Board meeting dealing with contest reporting.
The full minutes should be on the Web tomorrow.
73, Mark K1RO
_____
35. On motion of Mr. Bellows, seconded by Mr. Isely, it was VOTED that the
following resolution is ADOPTED:
WHEREAS, the ARRL management and ARRL Board of Directors are
committed to the support of contesting and operating activities, and
increasing the understanding and participation of ARRL members in those
activities; and
WHEREAS, the soon-to-be two official means of providing information
to members are QST magazine and the ARRL Web site; and
WHEREAS, ARRL management has significantly improved the capabilities
of the contest web site, including a searchable database of contest line
scores for members with the ability to easily analyze individual and club
scores; an online Soapbox where entrants can post information and photos and
exchange ideas immediately after the contest; expanded the write-up and
amount of information available for each contest; and initiated the email
Contest Rate Sheet newsletter to better inform contest participants; and
WHEREAS, as a means of encouraging increased member enjoyment and
participation in contests, ARRL management and QST editorial staff are
committed to continuing to enhance and improve the contest web site and
maintaining an ongoing presence in QST recognizing contests and the
achievements of contesters; and
WHEREAS, over the past six months members have come to understand
and appreciate the reasons for relocating of contest line scores and the
advantages of the expanded capabilities available on the web site;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that as of the January 2003 issue of
QST, contest line scores shall be relocated from QST to the ARRL Web.
>From dave at egh.com Wed Jul 24 20:28:17 2002
From: dave@egh.com (David Clemons)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL 10 Meter Contest Results
Message-ID: <00A116D0.B9C72202.27@egh.com>
The ARRL web site now shows the results of the 2001
ARRL 10 Meter Contest.
73, Dave Clemons K1VUT
Dave Clemons
dave@egh.com
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
55 Waltham Street, Lexington, MA 02421
(781)861-0670, (781)860-9321 (Fax)
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Wed Jul 24 20:58:15 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Additional Serial ports
In-Reply-To: <001b01c23350$8fa5c040$a344fea9@com>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFMEJCDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
I've used the SIIG PCI serial expansion board on a Windows 98SE computer.
Works like a charm. I believe it installed as COM5 and COM6 if I recall
correctly.
73,
Gary W2CS
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ron Bolton
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 4:28 PM
> To: CQ Contest Reflector; Dx4win@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Additional Serial ports
>
>
> Anyone tried using the SIIG PCI Expander boards? These seem to
> be much more reasonably priced than the Byterunners and come with
> a 5 year warranty. (SIIG 2S PCI is $54, and 2 additional ports
> can be added to board for $24, all 4 use same INT.) I looked at
> the USB to Serial converters and while they may be easy to use,
> are much more expensive (cheapest 4 port was $125). Any other
> suggestions?
>
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>From gm at netsync.net Wed Jul 24 21:56:26 2002
From: gm@netsync.net (Gerry Maira)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
> Message: 7
> From: "Lee Hiers, AA4GA" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
> To: Cq-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
>
> I would say that it gives reason for concern for
> ARRL's continued sponsorship of contests,
> possibly even their support of contesting as an
> allowable activity on the bands - I would not be
> surprised if they proposed a rules change to the
> FCC which would prohibit contesting - if you
> boil it down to membership numbers, I'm sure the
> majority of members (not active $-spending
> members, just numbers of members) would support
> total elimination of contesting. It's only a
> matter of time.
Bingo! Someone is finally catching on. The ARRL won't so far as trying to
prohibit
contests, but they are distancing themselves from them. The exception is the
non-contest
field day exercise which is still good PR for the league.
I just started out in contesting about 2 years ago. One thing that helped spark
my
interest was seeing ARRL contest results in QST. Seeing the results there also
gave me
added incentive to try for more points. It won't be quite the same without
results
published in QST. NO ONE is going to take the trouble to look at scores on the
ARRL
website except for participants. In QST it's right there in front of you and
easy to
look at. The same is true for section news.
I ended my ARRL membership as of 1/02 for reasons that had little to do with
contesting.
I was amazed at the number of form letters they sent me trying to get me to
renew. They
basically said I wasn't doing my part to help protect Amateur Radio by not
supporting
them. The fact is, I need protection from the ARRL! I'm a CW operator, a DXer
and a
contester. Those are my main activities in the hobby, and each of them requires
some
degree of skill. Each has also suffered to some degree by the actions of the
ARRL -
especially CW. They ARRL doesn't want to turn off any of the new instant
gratification
folks by requiring or promoting anything that requires skill. Articles on
things like
how to properly type a URL in order to access a website, or specials like the
"ugly
shack contest" are what they think are appropriate now. They say we need more
licensed
hams and ARRL members in order to fend of the evil threats out there. Bunk! The
threats
are minimal and I would think almost non-existant on HF. We don't need more
than a few
hundred thousand licensed hams in this country to keep the hobby going. Dumbing
down has
only lowered the integrity of the hobby, and that's the thing the ARRL should
be most
concerned about. They sold us out!
Gerry KA2MGE
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Wed Jul 24 22:02:48 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c23377$3d0110c0$03010a0a@office1>
Moving the line scores to the web implies that we will be able to get the
results faster -- if for not other reason, just from the mere fact that we
won't have to wait 2 months or more for the final copy to be sent to the
printer, printed in the magazine, and left to the tender mercies (if any) of
the US Postal (alleged) Service.
Isn't this a good thing? (Besides, only the line scores won't be in, right?
The contest write-ups and soapboxes will be -- though I suspect the on-line
soapboxes will be greater.)
Look, the decision has been made, and I suspect that it's now irrevocable.
At best the combinded kvetching from groups like this one might put it off
for another 6 months -- maybe. But it's coming. So rather than kvetch
about mass conspiracies and make unfounded financial allegations, why don't
we put our collective heads together and figure out how to best exploit this
new tool to the benefit of the contesting community?
In fact, let's go one step further: Why not suggest to the ARRL that anyone
submitting an electronic log have the option to request that the final
results be emailed to them, line scores and all? It could be done as an
additional Cabrillo line in the header section, for one.
...oh, and about those comments the other day regarding the potential young
amateur buying QST off the newstand: Newstand? What newstand? At least
here in the Pittsburgh area, QST long since disappeared from the magazine
racks. Even Borders, which carries CQ & 73 and 10 million other
hobby-related magazines, doesn't carry QST (I asked at both of my local
ones -- they say they never heard of it!). I think we have a bigger problem
of getting QST into someone's hands to solve long before we start worrying
about what's in the magazine itself! (I shudder to think that someone's
first exposure to Amateur Radio these days might be one of Wayne's rants.
But I digress)
73, ron wn3vaw
"Some people say the beer glass is half empty.
Some people say it's half full.
To me, Woody, it says 'get me another drink!'"
-- Norm, Cheers (attributed)
From: "K0LUZ" <k0luz@topsusa.com>
To: "Mike Gilmer, N2MG" <n2mg@eham.net>,
"CQ-Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In a sense, this is one positive for promoting more contest activity
because now the non-member who participates in an ARRL contest can see his
score published on the Internet. As a non-member and not a recipient of
QST, I assume it was difficult to find out how they had scored compared to
others in the same category. This is what is called observing "the glass is
half full."
73
Red
K0LUZ
-----Original Message-----
Tom Osborne wrote:
>
> Pete Smith wrote:
>
> > Starting next January, "Section News" and contest line score
> > results will appear on the ARRL Web site >rather than in QST.
>
> Probably in the "members only" section, I suppose.
ARRL has been publishing contest results in Members Only for the first
month or so, but then moving them to the open section. So non-members
have been able to get a free ride (if one were willing to wait a
month) - no need to join or to even buy QST to see the results. I
suspect this procedure will continue.
Mike N2MG
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>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Wed Jul 24 22:06:55 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
In-Reply-To: <000f01c23377$3d0110c0$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <MCBBJAHBAIHDJKDNKBBIOEKFCAAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> ...oh, and about those comments the other day regarding the
> potential young
> amateur buying QST off the newstand: Newstand? What newstand? At least
> here in the Pittsburgh area, QST long since disappeared from the magazine
> racks. Even Borders, which carries CQ & 73 and 10 million other
> hobby-related magazines, doesn't carry QST (I asked at both of my local
> ones -- they say they never heard of it!).
My local Barnes & Noble (Clear Lake-Houston, TX) carries QST, CQ and 73,
along with a a couple of SWL/Scanner type mags, electronic hobbyist mags and
even a Britsh electronics hobbyist magazine.
I have also seen QST in a couple of airport magazine/book shops.
73,
dale, kg5u
>From k2wr at njdxa.org Wed Jul 24 23:10:12 2002
From: k2wr@njdxa.org (Rich K2WR)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL BoD et al
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <002d01c23380$6b92abc0$7b9bfea9@5j08601>
To my esteemed fellow participants on the Contest Reflector:
(I write this from the standpoint of one with considerable experience in
serving on boards of membership organizations, and not necessarily involving
amateur radio...)
It's a bad idea to expect that people you elect to boards will follow your
agenda, or even their own. In fact, it's a bad idea if they run with any
agenda at all. The truth is, in almost any organization, 10 minutes after
the person you support (or his opponent) gets elected, he is going to know
far, far more about the organization than you do. Now, you can and should
express your opinion, but you should have elected the person because you
trust him to exercise his JUDGEMENT independently, and you should vote for
someone else when and if you lose that trust. (However, with the exception
of financial chicanery or irresponsibility, there is rarely any one issue
that reasonably should make or break that trust.)
In this particular case, I disagree with the Board's action as much as
anyone on this reflector. I am going to convey my opinion to my director
(N2FF), who was elected and re-elected (twice) with my vocal and significant
support, but I fully realize and accept that after 6 years on the Board he
knows far, far, far more about the workings of ARRL than I do, and, even
though I think he and my other friends on the Board reached the wrong
conclusion about contest line scores (and Section News, for that matter), I
elected him to use his own judgement, which I think he's done very
effectively for six years, and I'm going to support him just as intensively
next year for re-election as I did the last 2 times.
Why not make our next project one to change the "Top Ten" boxes to "Top
Fifty" boxes, now that all this space has been released due to removing the
line scores?
Rich K2WR
>From K9GY at K9GY.com Thu Jul 25 03:25:14 2002
From: K9GY@K9GY.com (Eric K9GY)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] W9DXCC - Chicago area - Sept 21st
Message-ID: <006901c23382$8290fbe0$d5bb180a@9byjx01>
In case anyone might be traveling through the Chicago area (ORD or MDW)
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>From ve4xt at mb.sympatico.ca Wed Jul 24 22:39:46 2002
From: ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
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Here's the thing: the people who won't bother to look at the line scores on
the Web are the same people right now who don't bother to look at the line
scores in QST.
Line scores have limited appeal -- primarily to us and us alone. That's not
going to change.
But what can change is the amount that non-contesters read the results. They
won't read line scores but they will read interesting stories, with good
anecdotes, good prose and good photography. There is no room for that now
since the majority of pages are devoted to line scores.
As the author of the 2001 SS Phone writeup, my behind the scenes work with
such ARRL luminaries as K1RO, NT1N, N1BKE and N1ND suggests a strong
commitment to making line score-free results work for everybody. I support
the efforts to move line score coverage to the Web (where it can be MUCH
more valuable to the people who actually care about them) and increase
non-line score copy in QST, where it can be much more interesting to the
people who don't care about line scores.
Anything that will make it MORE LIKELY that a non-contester will read the
results writeup is a good thing, no? Line scores don't do that.
It only makes sense to deliver the material people want in the form most
suited to them: the interactive sort functions applied to the SS line scores
on the Web site are nothing short of astounding. Want to compare 80 meter
rates among club scores in B? No problem. Want to find out who had the
highest non-sweep score? Simple. They really, really, really did an
absolutely fantastic job developing the contesting space on the ARRL site.
It is an excellent resource that we should all be happy to embrace.
The most powerful people at the League now are active contesters. Don't
forget that.
73, Kelly
VE4XT
"Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean everybody isn't out to get me."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Maira" <gm@netsync.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 7:56 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
> > Message: 7
> > From: "Lee Hiers, AA4GA" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
> > To: Cq-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
> >
>
> > I would say that it gives reason for concern for
> > ARRL's continued sponsorship of contests,
> > possibly even their support of contesting as an
> > allowable activity on the bands - I would not be
> > surprised if they proposed a rules change to the
> > FCC which would prohibit contesting - if you
> > boil it down to membership numbers, I'm sure the
> > majority of members (not active $-spending
> > members, just numbers of members) would support
> > total elimination of contesting. It's only a
> > matter of time.
>
> Bingo! Someone is finally catching on. The ARRL won't so far as trying to
prohibit
> contests, but they are distancing themselves from them. The exception is
the non-contest
> field day exercise which is still good PR for the league.
>
> I just started out in contesting about 2 years ago. One thing that helped
spark my
> interest was seeing ARRL contest results in QST. Seeing the results there
also gave me
> added incentive to try for more points. It won't be quite the same without
results
> published in QST. NO ONE is going to take the trouble to look at scores on
the ARRL
> website except for participants. In QST it's right there in front of you
and easy to
> look at. The same is true for section news.
>
> I ended my ARRL membership as of 1/02 for reasons that had little to do
with contesting.
> I was amazed at the number of form letters they sent me trying to get me
to renew. They
> basically said I wasn't doing my part to help protect Amateur Radio by not
supporting
> them. The fact is, I need protection from the ARRL! I'm a CW operator, a
DXer and a
> contester. Those are my main activities in the hobby, and each of them
requires some
> degree of skill. Each has also suffered to some degree by the actions of
the ARRL -
> especially CW. They ARRL doesn't want to turn off any of the new instant
gratification
> folks by requiring or promoting anything that requires skill. Articles on
things like
> how to properly type a URL in order to access a website, or specials like
the "ugly
> shack contest" are what they think are appropriate now. They say we need
more licensed
> hams and ARRL members in order to fend of the evil threats out there.
Bunk! The threats
> are minimal and I would think almost non-existant on HF. We don't need
more than a few
> hundred thousand licensed hams in this country to keep the hobby going.
Dumbing down has
> only lowered the integrity of the hobby, and that's the thing the ARRL
should be most
> concerned about. They sold us out!
>
> Gerry KA2MGE
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>From wd4ahz at gte.net Thu Jul 25 02:23:09 2002
From: wd4ahz@gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net> <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
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Kelly Taylor wrote:
> There is no room for that now since the majority of pages are devoted
> to line scores.
The idea of cutting line scores is to reduce the number of pages in QST
(I've heard 16 pages will be cut) - not free them up for something
else. Cutting line scores and section news reduces the number of pages
in QST and makes publishing costs less ... it doesn't mean more content
will take their place.
Ron
>From kr1g at hotmail.com Thu Jul 25 13:01:23 2002
From: kr1g@hotmail.com (ted demopoulos)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
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ABout 5 years ago while on my honeymoon in ZL, I had decided to become
active again after 10+ years off the air.
Found a copy of QST and CQ in a newsstand in Auckland - not even sure I
could do that in Boston.
73
Ted KT1V
>From: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
>To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
>
>
> > ...oh, and about those comments the other day regarding the
> > potential young
> > amateur buying QST off the newstand: Newstand? What newstand? At
>least
> > here in the Pittsburgh area, QST long since disappeared from the
>magazine
> > racks. Even Borders, which carries CQ & 73 and 10 million other
> > hobby-related magazines, doesn't carry QST (I asked at both of my local
> > ones -- they say they never heard of it!).
>
>My local Barnes & Noble (Clear Lake-Houston, TX) carries QST, CQ and 73,
>along with a a couple of SWL/Scanner type mags, electronic hobbyist mags
>and
>even a Britsh electronics hobbyist magazine.
>
>I have also seen QST in a couple of airport magazine/book shops.
>
>73,
>dale, kg5u
>
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>From n4zr at contesting.com Thu Jul 25 09:59:51 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
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At 09:39 PM 7/24/02 -0500, Kelly Taylor wrote:
>As the author of the 2001 SS Phone writeup, my behind the scenes work with
>such ARRL luminaries as K1RO, NT1N, N1BKE and N1ND suggests a strong
>commitment to making line score-free results work for everybody. I support
>the efforts to move line score coverage to the Web (where it can be MUCH
>more valuable to the people who actually care about them) and increase
>non-line score copy in QST, where it can be much more interesting to the
>people who don't care about line scores.
Kelly, this is exactly the sort of reassurance we are looking for, and that
was strikingly absent from reports on the Board meeting. If there had been
direction to ARRL staff to "increase non-line score copy in QST," as there
was in the case of the Section News, then I would have zero complaint about
the outcome. Perhaps one of those ARRL luminaries would offer a statement
of ARRL's intentions in this respect, and put the issue to rest (except, of
course, for the requirement that we get busy writing).
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From n0ss at earthlink.net Thu Jul 25 09:42:03 2002
From: n0ss@earthlink.net (Tom Hammond =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=D8SS?=)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <3D3F8B3D.C5B32B8E@gte.net>
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
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Ron, et al:
Kelly Taylor wrote:
>I support the efforts to move line score coverage to the Web
>(where it can be MUCH more valuable to the people who actually
>care about them) and increase non-line score copy in QST, where
>it can be much more interesting to the people who don't care
>about line scores.
Ron Wetjen wrote:
>The idea of cutting line scores is to reduce the number of pages
>in QST (I've heard 16 pages will be cut) - not free them up for
>something else. Cutting line scores and section news reduces the
>number of pages in QST and makes publishing costs less ... it
>doesn't mean more content will take their place.
If, say, 16 pages were 'saved' by moving the line scores, this doesn't
necessarily imply that ALL of those pages would be lost.
Assuming that Kelly's statement, above, is correct, even if a FEW of those
16 pages were used to increase non-line score copy for contests, this would
be a good thing. And the ARRL would still be saving a BUNCH of paper in the
process.
I have no reason to doubt Kelly's statement, which implies that SOME of the
lost pages may actually be used in further SUPPORT of contesting, by way of
enhanced write-ups.
While I will miss not seeing my call... generally way down toward the
bottom of most listings... in QST, I certainly WOULD like to be able to
access the results more quickly via the Web, and to have them available to
all operators, not just ARRL members.
Tom Hammond N0SS
>From k1my at msn.com Thu Jul 25 08:20:00 2002
From: k1my@msn.com (Bruce Makas)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020725085529.024b3a00@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
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Hi Pete, Nice thoughts but don't hold your breath. Non line score copy of
contests will never increase. Take that to the bank.
73, Bruce K1MY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
> At 09:39 PM 7/24/02 -0500, Kelly Taylor wrote:
> >As the author of the 2001 SS Phone writeup, my behind the scenes work
with
> >such ARRL luminaries as K1RO, NT1N, N1BKE and N1ND suggests a strong
> >commitment to making line score-free results work for everybody. I
support
> >the efforts to move line score coverage to the Web (where it can be MUCH
> >more valuable to the people who actually care about them) and increase
> >non-line score copy in QST, where it can be much more interesting to the
> >people who don't care about line scores.
>
> Kelly, this is exactly the sort of reassurance we are looking for, and
that
> was strikingly absent from reports on the Board meeting. If there had
been
> direction to ARRL staff to "increase non-line score copy in QST," as there
> was in the case of the Section News, then I would have zero complaint
about
> the outcome. Perhaps one of those ARRL luminaries would offer a statement
> of ARRL's intentions in this respect, and put the issue to rest (except,
of
> course, for the requirement that we get busy writing).
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> Check out the World HF
> Contest Station Database at
> www.pvrc.org
>
>
>
>
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 09:44:19 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20020725085529.024b3a00@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
References: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
<200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
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I'm reading a lot about whether the line scores should be in QST or not.
I am not reading anything about anybody actually going up and trying out
the electronic versions.
So, I went up and reviewed the newly released ARRL 10M results.
Following that review, I was going to write a whole bunch about the entire
week's worth of long discussions regarding contest haters, economics,
following the money, conspiracies, politics, the death of the
hobby, and even.... <sigh> tree hugging.
However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
going on-line in three short words.
I like 'em.
rock on!
dink, n7wa
>From aa4nu at ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 25 11:50:52 2002
From: aa4nu@ix.netcom.com (Billy Cox)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: Fw: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
Message-ID: <00d001c233f3$118fc720$6401a8c0@rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net>
>Kelly Taylor wrote:
>
>> There is no room for that now since the majority of pages are devoted
>> to line scores.
>
>The idea of cutting line scores is to reduce the number of pages in QST
>(I've heard 16 pages will be cut) - not free them up for something
>else. Cutting line scores and section news reduces the number of pages
>in QST and makes publishing costs less ... it doesn't mean more content
>will take their place.
>
> Ron
No so Ron, <sigh>
Yes ... that's what we were told back earlier in the year ... that this was
all due to financial concerns ... and you know from a business viewpoint
(MBA/corporate/etc.) if my national organization says there is a revenue
problem, and to survive they need to take some cost containment steps
to continue to exist, and that some of my perks as a member may have
to go away. Hey, I understand, do it ... but that's not what has happened.
Now go re-read the official release ... NO MENTION of reducing the number
of pages, NO MENTION of any form of cost containment. There IS mention of:
"The space freed up by relocating "Section News" will allow more in-depth
coverage of general news, public service activities and "how-to" articles
aimed at bringing more amateurs into the emergency preparedness fold."
Wait a second ... where's the we must contain costs cry from earlier this
year?
And as we gloat about how much greater the web-based options will be,
who's picking up the tab for all of that? Use of volunteers will help, but
there's going to be some incremental costs to support this also. There is
no free ride folks ... there are NEW costs to provide web-based services.
Also in the carefully worded release ... why no mention of anything stating:
"The space freed up by relocating "Contest ....." will allow more in-depth
coverage of contest news, contesting activities, and "how-to" articles aimed
at bringing more amateurs into the enjoyable sport of radio contesting".
My opinion is that omission is not by accident, as press releases are
carefully constructed to communicate exact and specific messages. NO
one from the ARRL has officially said anything about increased contest
exposure to replace the line-scores. Such a statement, if valid could have
been included in the press release. It was not. So who's fooling who here?
There's a wide variance between what we were told, and what has
happened. And that's disgusting behavior from our national organization.
73 Billy AA4NU
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 25 10:23:43 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Why not complain about CQ also?
In-Reply-To: <3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <20020725162343.91310.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com>
The ARRL can't prohibit anyone from having a contest on any band.
If the ARRL doesn't like contests they I would say to them why don't
you just discontinue your contest program. Even more $$$ saved for
a silly and stupid activity... Hey ???
The ARRL never seems to really care about the views of the contest
community anyway (which cq-contest is an important forum to express
those views and the CAC) when making rules changes or any deciding
other issues that come before the BoD.
Don't take these comments as me being anti-ARRL... because I am
not. The ARRL is more than just a subscription to QST. I am VERY
grateful for all the work they do over the years fighting for our
frequencies and our right to just put up antennas. I am a life
member
of the ARRL and proud of it.
It would be very nice if those directors , who we know who are
contesters and probably subscribe to this reflector, would come out
of hiding and let us know why they voted the way they did ????
73's Jeff
--- Gerry Maira <gm@netsync.net> wrote:
> > Message: 7
> > From: "Lee Hiers, AA4GA" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
> > To: Cq-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why not complain about CQ also?
> >
>
> > I would say that it gives reason for concern for
> > ARRL's continued sponsorship of contests,
> > possibly even their support of contesting as an
> > allowable activity on the bands - I would not be
> > surprised if they proposed a rules change to the
> > FCC which would prohibit contesting - if you
> > boil it down to membership numbers, I'm sure the
> > majority of members (not active $-spending
> > members, just numbers of members) would support
> > total elimination of contesting. It's only a
> > matter of time.
>
> Bingo! Someone is finally catching on. The ARRL won't so far as
> trying to prohibit
> contests, but they are distancing themselves from them. The exception
> is the non-contest
> field day exercise which is still good PR for the league.
>
> I just started out in contesting about 2 years ago. One thing that
> helped spark my
> interest was seeing ARRL contest results in QST. Seeing the results
> there also gave me
> added incentive to try for more points. It won't be quite the same
> without results
> published in QST. NO ONE is going to take the trouble to look at
> scores on the ARRL
> website except for participants. In QST it's right there in front of
> you and easy to
> look at. The same is true for section news.
>
> I ended my ARRL membership as of 1/02 for reasons that had little to
> do with contesting.
> I was amazed at the number of form letters they sent me trying to get
> me to renew. They
> basically said I wasn't doing my part to help protect Amateur Radio
> by not supporting
> them. The fact is, I need protection from the ARRL! I'm a CW
> operator, a DXer and a
> contester. Those are my main activities in the hobby, and each of
> them requires some
> degree of skill. Each has also suffered to some degree by the actions
> of the ARRL -
> especially CW. They ARRL doesn't want to turn off any of the new
> instant gratification
> folks by requiring or promoting anything that requires skill.
> Articles on things like
> how to properly type a URL in order to access a website, or specials
> like the "ugly
> shack contest" are what they think are appropriate now. They say we
> need more licensed
> hams and ARRL members in order to fend of the evil threats out there.
> Bunk! The threats
> are minimal and I would think almost non-existant on HF. We don't
> need more than a few
> hundred thousand licensed hams in this country to keep the hobby
> going. Dumbing down has
> only lowered the integrity of the hobby, and that's the thing the
> ARRL should be most
> concerned about. They sold us out!
>
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>From k2kir at telenet.net Thu Jul 25 13:38:00 2002
From: k2kir@telenet.net (Bud Hippisley, K2KIR)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
References: <200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com>
<3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20020725112738.00abaac0@telenet.net>
At 10:39 PM 2002-07-24 , VE4XT wrote:
>Line scores have limited appeal -- primarily to us and us alone.
I don't agree -- when I was a new ham, I used to read the line scores for my
section to see if I knew any of the contesters who participated -- even though
I hadn't yet decided that I wanted to be a contester.
> Anything that will make it MORE LIKELY that a non-contester will read the
>results writeup is a good thing, no?
Not automatically, and especially not if it's a zero-sum game and something
else has to suffer in return. There's a whole string of unproven presumptions
inherent in trading line scores for more verbiage -- including the one that
implies today's new generation will *read* about anything rather than just
*doing*.
But my principal objection to this whole thing is from the "historical records"
point of view. If I want to recall what my friends and I did in the 1933
Sweepstakes I can go to my collection of QSTs and know for certain that I will
find it. There is no such guarantee attached to whatever the League is
proposing to replace the QST coverage with -- as those of us who have suffered
through a similar but much earlier decision to remove coverage of the ARRL
National Traffic System from QST have learned the hard way. The promised
alternatives -- listing of NTS "line scores" (statistics) in a separate
specialty field organization newsletter and equivalent editorial space in QST
for articles about NTS and traffic handling have not survived in any meaningful
way.
Coincidentally, I recently read a similar wail from long-time columnists in a
popular computer magazine to the effect that their archived columns on the
publisher's web site had been deleted -- perhaps accidentally but, in any
event, deleted nevertheless. Their philosophical ruminations about the
limitations of web-based archiving can be found on pages 156-157 of the April
2002 issue of "Computer Shopper" magazine.
Surely the day will come when alternative publishing methods will be as
permanent, as ubiquitous, and as easy to read in bed or on the subway as
hard-copy magazines have been. But "we (society and technology) ain't there
yet", and especially not the ARRL, which has convinced me by its recent history
that its "commitments" aren't always as permanent as its hard-copy publications.
Bud, K2KIR
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:07:13 2002
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Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
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K8GU(@K8GU/P) 8 0 8 0 < 1 128 MRRC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:07:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251907.g6PJ7nY25600@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
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All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
KB8U 227 99 17 30,888
K3DNE 167 69 10 15,732 PVRC
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
K8CC 130 72 6.5 12,240 MRRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
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All SOAB LP
VE3KZ 126 66 9,570 Ontario VHF Associat
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
K0UK 2 2 27hrs 6 Grand Mesa
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All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
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All SOSB/2 QRP
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
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All SOSB/6 LP
K8KFJ 26 19 6 494
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All SOSB/6 QRP
N3AWS 5 4 3 20
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:09:09 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251909.g6PJ99D25609@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
W6YX 446 156 10 69,576 NCCC
W1GZ 252 112 10 28,224
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All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
VA3DX 388 147 11 58,200
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 10 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
9A5W(@9A1A) 301 107 9 32,207
WB4EQS 259 124 32,116
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K7ZUM 241 118 7 28,438 WVDXC
N1NB 240 105 8 25,200
K4PX 225 111 10 24,975
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
W4BCG 222 107 9 23,754 TCG
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
W6ZL(BIGWAVE) 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
KD8FS 195 97 5 18,915
LP7H(LU9HS) 227 76 10 17,252
K3FH 176 98 8 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 6 14,964
IT9BLB 186 78 10 14,508 TIKIRRIKI CONTEST CL
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
K5AM 169 78 4 13,182
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
K1XX 161 78 9 12,090
IK0HBN 150 57 9 8,550
WB0O 110 71 2 7,810
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 2 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K9SZ 48 33 1,584
K6OWL 46 34 2 1,564
XE2AC 42 27 3 1,134
F6FJE 24 23 5 552
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
W1GZ N1MGO,WN1E
W6YX K6ENT,N6DE,W6ZZZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:22:43 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251922.g6PJMhT25625@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
HQ station (M/M)
S50HQ 4493 4185 416 24 11,710,400
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
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USA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 23 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
W7GG 362 300 44 9 265,742
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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USA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
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USA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 24 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 93 116 19 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 21 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
K9TM 901 0 109 13 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
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USA SO CW LP
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
W4BCG 75 0 40 6 9,400 TCG
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
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USA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
K6XX 1264 247 179 23 1,030,682 NCCC
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 19 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
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USA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
K1HT 399 123 139 9 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 5 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
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USA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 13 10,701 SECC
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USA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
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USA SO SSB LP
NQ4U 0 235 49 8 81,498 TCG
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
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USA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
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DX M/S HP
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
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DX SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 0 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
PJ2E(N1UR) 2211 0 198 24 2,067,034 YCCC
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 20 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 0 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
DH7KU 550 0 66 16 134,640 DK0UN University Rad
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
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DX SO CW LP
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
OH/W6YA 770 0 159 354,570
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
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DX SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
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DX SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RK4FF 1594 846 325 24 2,637,700
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 23 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
UY5ZZ 991 304 123 956,032
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 15 463,606 HSDXA
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 8 402,327
XE2AC 225 598 90 8 257,760
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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DX SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
VE4YU 360 232 61 19 270,750
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
DL4RCK 286 834 72 8 98,412 BCC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 8 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
SV1DNW 132 58 84 12 43,008
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
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DX SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
DF1DX 141 114 92 13 71,300 RR DX
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DX SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 23 2,342,130 Other (specify when
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
RN4LP 1505 251 24 1,175,433
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
FM5GU 0 1492 99 10 609,246
S57UN(@S52ZW) 430 5 117,432 SCC
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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DX SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
SV1DKL 0 683 183 18 416,325
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
W7GG K7ZUM,KC7TWZ,W7GG
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Thu Jul 25 13:23:28 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207251923.g6PJNSq25634@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 25Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in theis summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
VE5RI 527 1214 41 40 24 818,424
KA6BIM 251 440 35 33 24 373,048 NCCC
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All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
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All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
VE7AVV 0 809 0 40 15 198,960 BCDX Club
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
K4BAI 181 22 0 0 27,632 SECC
K1GU 118 0 28 0 4 24,920 YCCC
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All SOAB LP
VE5SF 416 562 39 39 18.1 579,696
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE7UQ 62 346 17 28 153,540
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VA6RA 1 180 1 24 39,050
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VA3WN 142 50 13 10 6 26,542
W0ETT 100 2 25 1 7 21,632 Grand Mesa
VE3ANX 116 2 23 1 2.5 18,240
W1TO 67 12 15 5 12,680 YCCC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
N4WSM 0 29 0 13 4,550 TCG
W4NZ 32 3 9 2 3,300
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
VE3XAX 334 114 37 24 208,864 U-VE Contest Club
WB6BWZ 26 13 9 4 8.3 4,862 SECC
AA0XJ 19 5 7 3 5 2,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
VE3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 56 41 6 9 12 9,870
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
KA6BIM KA6BIM,NT6K
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From k1ir at designet.com Thu Jul 25 17:10:44 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL July 2002 BoD Meeting Minutes Posted
Message-ID: <57lkpsfvcecxz2w.250720021610@designet-jsi>
The minutes of the BoD meeting are posted at:
http://www.arrl.org/announce/board-0207/
73,
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From wae at dl6rai.muc.de Thu Jul 25 21:59:09 2002
From: wae@dl6rai.muc.de (Bernhard Buettner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WAEDC-CW coming up!
Message-ID: <200207251859.g6PIxAZ01666@dl6rai.muc.de>
Hi Contesters!
The WAE DX Contest (CW portion) is coming up! Only two weekends
ahead, on August 10/11 the HF bands again will be full of "QTC?" -
the typical sign of the WAE DX Contest.
The idea of the QTC was born a long time ago - in 1936, the D.A.S.D.
(Deutscher Amateur Sende Dienst - the predecessor of the DARC) came up
with its first international Contest - the DJDC, which went over
five weekends. Non-German stations back then reported their QSOs back
to German stations. This was done in order to get complete coverage
of all QSOs done during the contest period - even if people would not
send in their logs. If you are interested in more information look
at the results archive at http://www.waedc.de - there you will find
results going back until 1936!
Today, the WAEDC only lasts a single weekend, 48 hours - and it's
coming up in a fortnight from now. Sending in logs today is so
easy with E-Mail and Log robots.
So - are you ready?
Check out the rules and latest changes at http://www.waedc.de! There
you can also download MP3 files of QTC traffic, look into the results
from the 2001 Contest, read about announced Contest operations etc.
Software authors have modified their logging programs to reflect the
latest changes in the WAE DX Contest. Find details on the Web site too.
If you have any questions or comments pertaining to the WAE DX Contest,
drop me a note at dl6rai@darc.de.
73 Ben, DL6RAI
--
[] Bernhard (Ben) Buettner, DL6RAI - WAE-DX-Contest Manager
[] E-Mail: dl6rai@darc.de Phone: +49-89-943663 Fax: +49-89-943191
>From thompson at mindspring.com Thu Jul 25 18:09:12 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Line scores
Message-ID: <009d01c23427$9b643600$781145cf@default>
A local ARRL official (just back from the Board meeting) thinks the line
scores will go on the open part of the ARRL web. The members only part will
allow you to digest your score (UBN).
No decisons have been made to expand NCJ with more scores. That decision
will be made over the next few months by HQ Management and the Executive
Committee.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From brianmiller at xtra.co.nz Fri Jul 26 11:30:00 2002
From: brianmiller@xtra.co.nz (Brian Miller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2001 OCEANIA DX CONTEST RESULTS
Message-ID: <016401c2342a$e61064a0$042556d2@default>
The full results for the 2001 Oceania DX contest are now available for viewing
on-line at the
Oceania DX Contest web site - go to
http://www.nzart.org.nz/nzart/update/contests/Oceania.
CONGRATULATIONS to all of the 2001 winners and thank you to everyone who
participated.
The Contest Committee was very pleased to see a 57% increase in the total
number of logs received
for the 2001 contest, including a 60% increase in logs from Oceania. The
increase indicates that our
strategy to rejuvenate the contest is working. We are looking for even greater
participation in
2002 - especially from Oceania stations.
I would especially like to acknowledge the Committee who managed the promotion,
log checking and
distribution of the results for the 2001 contest - the Committee members are
VK5GN, VK3TZ, VK4UC,
VK2FHN, VK2AYD, VK1JDX, ZL3GA, ZL2BSJ and ZL1AZE.
The 2002 Oceania DX contest is to be held on the following dates and times
PHONE Contest: 0800 UTC Saturday 5 October to 0800 UTC Sunday 6 October
CW Contest: 0800 UTC Saturday 12 October to 0800 UTC Sunday 13 October
The 2002 rules are available from
http://www.nzart.org.nz/nzart/update/contests/Oceania.
This will be the 66th Oceania DX Contest - lets make it the biggest and best
yet. Note that this
contest is a great opportunity to warm up for CQ WW! Please spread the word
about the contest and
encourage others to "have a go".
We look forward to working you in the 2002 contest.
73
Brian Miller
ZL1AZE
Chair Oceania DX Contest Committee
PS. You can get the latest gossip on the contest by joining the discussion
group at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OceaniaDXTest. Join the group by sending an email
to
OceaniaDXTest-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.
>From k8cc at comcast.net Thu Jul 25 20:08:12 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20020725112738.00abaac0@telenet.net>
References: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
<200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com> <3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020725184432.00998ca0@mail.comcast.net>
Back in the early seventies when I was a new ham (licensed 2-3 years) and
starting to get very enthused about contesting, the QST contest writeups
were a HUGE factor in increasing my knowledge. I was fortunate that the
library at community college I attended for the first few years after high
school had a rather complete collection of QSTs for the prior fifteen years
or so. They were stored in a back room and the librarian would unlock the
room and let me sit back there for hours digesting contest results.
What was it that attracted my interest - line scores? Heck no! First, it
was pictures of contest stations; no, not stations with a DX40 and an
NC300, but pictures of competitive stations like W3GRF, K1LPL/3, XE1IIJ,
W7RM, etc. It was always interesting to see what these guys were running,
which gave me something to aspire to. Second were the tables showing QSOs
and mults (varied depending on the contest); again, showing me what was
possible. And finally, contest writeups which explained the contest - who
beat who, and why; significant scores, antecdotes, etc.; much more than
simple recitations of first, second and third places in each category.
Its been a number of years since I've read a contest writeup in a magazine
which I truly enjoyed. The CQWW writeups, IMHO, are better than the ARRL
ones because K3EST is deeply involved in the contest and understands what
went on. I commend the ARRL recent writeups (particularly the on-line
versions) by guest authors which have been a great improvement and will
continue to get better as these writers gain experience (that is, assuming
they don't burn out and quit). Still there is room for improvement - IMHO
there needs to be more pictures and more comparison breakdowns. For
example, the January VHF SS writeup lacked the traditional boxes with top
QSOs and grids per band. I'm not sure whether scoring info by band was
available in the results - even if so, sorting through hundreds of scores
is a lot of work for the reader when the author might be able to run a
database query and format it into a table with little work.
I believe that an attractive, interesting article about the results of a
contest has a place in QST. I'm not so much against including line scores
as I am a proponent of better use of space. I'd prefer to *read about the
contest* and opposed to going glassy-eyed over columns of data.
At the same time, we contesters need to get off our butts. We need to
submit more photos, stories, etc. about our contest efforts as material for
the writeup authors to use. And those of us who are capable of writing
need to step up and volunteer to do the writeups. N1ND's time is put to
much better use making the contest results happen.
FWIW.
73,
Dave/K8CC
>From trey at kkn.net Thu Jul 25 19:10:31 2002
From: trey@kkn.net (Trey Garlough)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
Message-ID: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Have you ever noticed that contest results take so long to appear in
magazines that sometimes you can't remember whether or not you
actually operated the particular contest you are reading about at the
moment?
Many years ago I had a dream that we would be able to operate contests
and then see the final results immediately after the events were over.
This will not be achievable if we rely on QST as a delivery mechanism.
As you may be aware I have been doing some volunteer work for the
League over the past few years to automate the log collecting and
results tabulating process for ARRL contests. Based on the current
state of the art, here are the top three delay factors that keep us
from publishing the results for the Sweepstakes in a timely fashion:
1) 45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
2) 30 day log submission deadline
3) contest writeup and magazine article layout
If we eliminate #1 by publishing on the web and cut #2 from 30 to 15
days, then I believe we can *tranquilly* release the complete final
results of Sweepstakes within 30 days of the contest. In fact, last
year Tree N6TR advanced the log processing tools for Sweepstakes to
the point that we are now capable of producing the complete set of
line scores and top ten boxes and so forth within 30 minutes of the
log deadline. Why wait until June to read the magazine when you can
see the results on the web in December?
Toward this end in November 2001 I introduced a propsal to the folks
at ARRL HQ that the log submission deadline be cut from 30 days to 15
days, effective with the contest season beginning with the 2002
November Sweepstakes. Let me explain how I decided on 15 days as a
nice compromise between 10 minutes and 30 days.
Over the past couple of years I have noticed a trend in how contest
logs are submitted. There is one spike that occurs right after the
contest and another spike the occurs right before the log submission
deadline, and during the intervening weeks the robot becomes very
quiet. I believe the reason for this is that there is really very
little work to be done to your logs anymore -- they are already duped
and scored and everything right at the end of the contest!
Secondly, cutting the log submission deadline from 30 to 15 days gains
us back 15 additional days to get the results published. 15 days is a
lot when you are trying to meet a 30 day (or 15 day!) deadline for
publishing the results.
Thirdly, I like 15 days because it gives everyone two complete
weekends to deal with their logs (as if there is really anything that
needs to be done with them). This gives the guy who bolts off on a
business trip on the Monday morning after the contest two weekends to
do something.
Fourthly: submitting your log on time is part of the contest!
Additional data: over 90% of electronic SS logs were submitted in
Cabrillo format last year. The number of paper logs received is
declining every year, and at this point all of them can be descibed
more as "participant" class logs rather than "competitor" class logs.
The beauty of the web results is that these logs can be added to the
list as they dribble in if they are delayed by an anthrax scare or
whatever.
Further data point: of the 1800 WPX SSB logs received thus far by
N8BJQ, 1500 are in Cabrillo format. Please note that unlike the ARRL,
CQ does not *require* electronic logs to be submitted in Cabrillo
format. However, this is not stopping people from submitting Cabrillo
logs anyways.
OK, so there you have the details of my proposal. The purpose of this
message is to solicit feedback from the contest community about how a
15 day log submission deadline would affect *you*. Please feel free
to write me privately, or to post back to the cq-contest list itself
and make your opinion heard -- either way is fine with me.
Please limit your comments to how this change would have affected
*you* personally in a contest during a recent year or how it might
affect you in the future. I am not interested in hearing hypothetical
situations such as "but, but, but, what if someone operates the
contest from the USVI, then goes on a 16 day Carnival Cruise
immediately after the contest, and during the cruise an asteroid falls
out of the sky and disables the communications system rendering the
onboard internet cafe inoperable?" I can think of plenty of
hypothetical situations of this nature on my own, as well as plenty
non-hypothetical ones. Earlier this year I spent 42 days in VP8/F,
VP8/Sand and VP8/G, and I can tell you that I could have beaten the 15
day deadline from any of these places had it been necessary. What I
am looking for is *practical* feedback about problems that the 15 day
deadline could possible create in your own personal situation.
Now is your chance to be heard! Let's hear it!
One final comment: I know people are bumming about losing line scores
in QST -- I'm a little sad too. However, I'm really excited about the
opportunity this gives us to make some lemonade out of the situation
and make work towards the ultimate dream of realtime results at the
end of the contest.
You can say what you want about about WRTC, whether it's fair or
not, or whether the stations were equal or not, whether it proves
anything or not, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, but the OH boys
were handing out the trophies the day after the contest, and in my
book this is totally cool!
Thanks for listening, and feel free to repost this message to your
local contest club mailing list.
--Trey, N5KO & HC8N
>From w5vx at hiline.net Thu Jul 25 21:33:11 2002
From: w5vx@hiline.net (Bill Parry)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Line scores
Message-ID: <NFBBICAGALOBNBAMOGIGGEGNCLAA.w5vx@hiline.net>
Now that this issue seems to be settled, I am willing to accept the change
that was voted by our Board of Directors. I would have preferred that the
line score had been left in QST but we have elected our directors to make
these decisions. I believe that the stories and line scores will serve me
well.
Unfortunately, I believe that we are too willing to accept the high-handed
way this issue was handled originally. I have been a life member of the ARRL
for many years and have always supported it. I thought I was a member of an
organization that elected people to make decisions about our hobby in a open
and honest atmosphere. Apparently, the board fears the membership enough to
operate in secrecy, at least on this occasion. If our Board of Directors
operates in this fashion all the time, we have more problems than line
scores!
Bill - W5VX
"All organizations are perfectly aligned for the results they get."
>From swca at swbell.net Thu Jul 25 22:18:04 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
References: <000001c23384$be979520$0100a8c0@joe>
<200207242338.g6ONc5hF005428@contesting.com> <3D3F4CBA.5E3B4BBF@netsync.net>
<4.2.0.58.20020725184432.00998ca0@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <029701c2344a$ad7e8750$0100a8c0@TL01>
K8CC wrote, among other things:
>They were stored in a back room and the librarian would unlock the
>room and let me sit back there for hours digesting contest results.
Thoughtful insights, Dave.
I can't help thinking, however, that all of us, myself included, who talk
about how great it *used* to be to read about contests in QST are living in
the past.
I can't help thinking that kids today are more web-fluent than we were ever
magazine-fluent. All the kids I mentor (about 5 whiz-kids) do things with
their hands on a keyboard and mouse that I can't even follow because it
happens too fast, and every last one of them types faster than any of us
ever did in High School.
And I think their multi-tasking with Windows is probably the reason
computers are getting faster and require so much more RAM.
So therefore, I think "The future is the web, man." Anyway, I am really
glad the contest reporting energy at the ARRL is focused squarely on the
internet.
Mark, N5OT
PS. Tree, if you don't want to get too close to the lighter fluid with the
match, you can do this really cool thing with a match and a can of WD-40.
>From n4gn at n4gn.com Thu Jul 25 23:24:33 2002
From: n4gn@n4gn.com (Tim Totten, N4GN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
In-Reply-To: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0207252207450.10099-100000@shell1>
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Trey Garlough wrote:
> Toward this end in November 2001 I introduced a propsal to the folks
> at ARRL HQ that the log submission deadline be cut from 30 days to 15
> days, effective with the contest season beginning with the 2002
> November Sweepstakes.
<snip>
> OK, so there you have the details of my proposal. The purpose of this
> message is to solicit feedback from the contest community about how a
> 15 day log submission deadline would affect *you*.
I fully support this proposal! In fact, it's hard to think of much else
to add to Trey's well-reasoned post. I'm certainly hard pressed to dream
up even a wild hypothetical scenario where the difference between a 15-day
and 30-day submission window would make any difference to me. And the
goal of greatly reducing the time to report the results is certainly a
worthy one.
So I'm very much in favor of implementing a 15-day submission window,
starting with this year's SS.
73,
Tim Totten, n4gn@n4gn.com
http://www.n4gn.com
>From n2mg at eham.net Thu Jul 25 23:49:01 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <00e101c2344f$00932820$3201a8c0@mikehome>
I was originally against this proposal when I first heard of it as it forces
us to process some of our Fall contest logs during probably the busiest
contest month of the year, November. As it stands today, I needn't worry
about submitting any logs from the big four (CQWW SSB/CW & SS CW/SSB) until
December. I must say that I like that arrangement. Also, a difference in
15 days hardly made a dent in the time-to-market of the scores.
However, since the removal of line scores from QST will reduce the
processing time significantly, 15 days is now a big percentage...so if
asked, I would vote in favor. I'll eventually get used to the idea (even my
wife admits I can learn new tricks from time to time) and maybe someday we
can shorten it up some more. Removing line scores from QST removes one of
the last vestiges of paper from the contesting world. Continued shortening
of the log submission deadlines will remove what is perhaps the very last
one - paper logs.
I see some new Early Bird awards/pins for the first 100 Cabrillo logs in
with more than 300 QSOs...or even better, all logs received within 1 hour
get a 1000 point bonus!
Mike N2MG
N5KO wrote:
> I introduced a propsal to the folks
> at ARRL HQ that the log submission deadline be cut from 30 days to 15
> days, effective with the contest season beginning with the 2002
> November Sweepstakes.
>From wb0wao at hotmail.com Fri Jul 26 06:29:21 2002
From: wb0wao@hotmail.com (Dennis Ponsness)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL, Line Scores, Etc.
Message-ID: <F15120lbhsKd6QR7j1H000001bd@hotmail.com>
One of the down sides is not seeing you call in print in QST, but I can live
with that. I must say that I am impressed with the content on the ARRL
website. Especially the LCR's - showed me where I needed to improve <grin>
! I can live with the change.
I do agree that the time should be cut to 15 days for submissions AND most
definately that the results be "published" very soon after. 6 months is
waaaay to long to wait. The results should be made available within 30 days
of the event.
Now, when will the 'test logs be incorporated into the "LoTW" project? That
is something that I know I would love to see. If the Q is good enough for
the ARRL to accept as a valid 'test Q, it should be good enough to accept
for WAS, DXCC, etc. I am not a "big gun" in the contesting game (100w,
vertical, wire antennas) and I think I have received a total of a couple
dozen QSL requests from 'test Q's. I can only imagine what a major 'test
station gets!
Anyway, I will still participate in the 'tests, have fun, and give out some
Q's. Look for me in the pileups!
73
Dennis - WB0WAO
(Searchin' and Pouncin')
NJQRP #329
FPQRP #-347
SOC #499
FISTS # 9299
GACW #622
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Fri Jul 26 03:51:59 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
Message-ID: <003f01c23470$f16980c0$6a2745cf@default>
I can't speak for any contest but the CQ 160 Contests. Shortening the
deadline makes sense
if and only if the following occurs:
All logs are submitted electronically and are in PROPER cabrillo
format.
For the 2002 CQ 160 Contests I have received 438 SSB logs and 889 CW Logs
plus check logs
plus check logs. Lets look at the facts! 46 Paper logs were received on
SSB and 77 on CW
Most were small logs but several on both modes were significant. There
were 40 old format electronic logs received on SSB and 89 on CW. Of these
all but 5 were e-mailed. Of the rest supposedly cabrillo I find that 1 out
of 5 do not check as cabrillo and have to be converted before
running through the crass check/log check programs. On top of this I
noticed that 18 on SSB and 31 on CW were lacking cabrillo elements as I
logged them in. We are now up to a significant number of logs in both
modes.
Here are some of the problems:
1. The name of the contest in the cabrillo summary are wrong. There is
an official name for most contests and for me its either CQ-160-CW or
CQ-160-SSB. Anything else and its not cabrillo.
2. The category has fields missing or out of order.
3. The fields in the log portion are out of order or run together. If
the mode and date are run together the log checker tells me mode and or date
is not identified. I then put the log aside until I can put it in Wordpad
and edit it to get correct fields.
I suggest that every contestant should look at the log and if you are not
sure the cabrillo is correct then run it through one of several cabrillo
converter programs. I do find that CT, TR, and Writelog (recent versions)
do produce good cabrillo.
I just finished the SSB logs except for three problem logs and it took a
full two weeks working several hours a day. With 100% cabrillo I could have
checked the logs in a day and 70% of that is set up!. I now face a month of
grinding through the CW logs. Get the log in proper format and the programs
will do the rest!
I am sure the CQ WW, WPX, and ARRL contests must face these problems.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From g3xtt at lineone.net Fri Jul 26 09:51:24 2002
From: g3xtt@lineone.net (Donald Field)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Contest - Announced Operations
Message-ID: <006701c23479$fac38540$39a6403e@field>
Almost there! I have been trying to compile a list of announced operations,
so I thought it might be helpful to share this with the main contest
relectors. I certainly don't pretend it is definitive, but it brings
together information from Daily DX, 425 DX News, and various Web pages
containing announced contest operations. Remarkably, this list contains
announced operations from over 120 island groups, and of course many other
islands will be active too. If you make some QSOs, then do please send in
your log to iota.logs@rsgbhfcc.org (see www.rsgbhfcc.org for full rules) -
usual system, with the log file as (Callsign).LOG or (Callsign).CBR. Enjoy!
EU-001 J45RW
EU-004 EA6URP EA6/DL6YFB
EU-005 M6T G9Q (and many others!!)
EU-006 EJ0A
EU-008 GM2T GM5A
EU-009 GM/F5BLC?
EU-011 M0C
EU-013 GJ2A
EU-015 SV9/PA1AW/P
EU-016 9A7K 9A5V 9A2JY 9A8RR 9A0LH
EU-017 ID9/IK8PGM
EU-020 SM1T SM0DKT/1
EU-023 9H3X 9H3Z 9H3QC
EU-030 OZ/DJ7RJ
EU-031 IC8JAH
EU-032 TM0X
EU-035 R17PQ
EU-038 PA6TEX
EU-042 DL4FCH/P
EU-049 SV8/G4DHF J48S
EU-052 SV1BRL/8
EU-057 DL3KUD/P
EU-064 F6BFH/P
EU-067 SW8L
EU-068 TM2ON
EU-077 ED1URJ
EU-082 RW1ZZ
EU-084 8S5T/0 8S4C/5
EU-089 CU9D
EU-091 II7GR
EU-092 GB5SI
EU-097 OH2/SM0ELV
EU-098 DL0FDX
EU-114 GU8D
EU-115 EI7M
EU-116 MD4K
EU-117 R1MVI
EU-120 G5XV
EU-121 EJ5E
EU-123 GM7X
EU-127 DL5CW/P DL5XL/P DF6QC
EU-128 DH6DG/P DF4XX/P
EU-129 DL0KWH/P
EU-130 IV3/HA8KW/P
EU-132 SN6F/1 SN0WI
EU-133 RI1CGG
EU-136 9A0R 9A/S55A 9A7T/P 9A6AA
EU-143 EA5KB/7
EU-144 IQ8B
EU-146 PI4HQ PA9ZZ/P PA5RA/P
EU-161 RA1QQ
EU-170 9A4A 9A/HB9HAW 9A/HA6PS 9A/HA6NL 9A0A
EU-171 OZ0RM OZ/DL7VOX/P
EU-173 OH9A
EU-175 CU3I
EU-178 ES8X
EU-181 LZ1KSL
EU-184 OH8/ES1RA OH8/ES1FB
EU-186 TA1ED/0
EU-187 SY9DIA
AF-004 EA8BWW
AF-014 CT3KY
AF-016 FR5FD
AF-036 ???
AF-042 EG9IA
AF-065 5C2MI
AS-008 JO1EPY/1
AS-024 JH1MUK/6
AS-032 JA6CM JF6WTY
AS-047 JM1PXG/6
AS-053 E20HHK/P
AS-058 9M2/G4ZFE/P
AS-066 RI0L
AS-080 ???
AS-101 HS1CHB/P
AS-105 DS0DX/2
AS-107 E21EIC/P
AS-117 JA4GXS/4 JA4PXE/4
AS-136 BI4J
AS-137 BI5H
AS-147 JI3DST/8 JR3TVH/8
AS-155 BV9L BV9K
AS-159 YM0T
NA-001 C6DX
NA-014 VE9W
NA-015 CO8LY
NA-026 N2GC
NA-029 VE2DX/VY2 VE1OTA/VY2
NA-032 FP/VE9GLF
NA-033 5K0Z
NA-046 K1VSJ
NA-051 VE7SR? N6HR/VE7 VE7QCR
NA-054 NA8KD
NA-055 W4KJ/1?
NA-058 N2SU
NA-067 N4C
NA-069 K4RFL
NA-075 VE7TMW N7MQ/VE7
NA-076 W4HY
NA-083 N2US/P WF1L/4 W4/LZ3SM KG4NXP KG4OHE AI2P/4
NA-091 AC7PN/VE7
NA-092 K5M
NA-099 KP4AH
NA-105 FS/N3OC
NA-137 KW1DX
NA-141 W4SAA
NA-143 KM5VI
NA-148 AA1IZ WF1N W1DIG
NA-158 WL7O?
NA-213 WW4LL
OC-019 KG9N/KH6
OC-034 YC9WZJ
OC-088 9M6A
OC-154 VK8AN/6
OC-160 VK4FW
OC-169 A35RK
OC-NEW 8A3M
SA-006 PJ2Y
SA-028 ZW2T/P
SA-046 ZX7XX
SA-060 PY8AZT/P
SA-066 YW1T
73 Don G3XTT
IOTA Contest Manager
g3xtt@lineone.net
>From Bill at ng3k.com Fri Jul 26 05:30:39 2002
From: Bill@ng3k.com (Bill@ng3k.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RSGB IOTA Contest Announced Operations
Message-ID: <3D40D06F.5761.1C1FD6@localhost>
IOTA contesters may want to check:
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iota2002.html
This list is sorted by callsign, but users can also get tables
sorted by DXCC-entity and IOTA number by clicking the
corresponding header in the main table or here are the
direct URLs:
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iotad2002.html (By DXCC)
http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/iotai2002.html (By IOTA)
The table provides: Operation callsign, DXCC Entity, IOTA
reference, Island name, QSL route, Source of info, Operators
and other operational notes.
Hope this is of some use.
73,
Bill/NG3K
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 26 06:23:54 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The Personal Touch
Message-ID: <000d01c2348e$8c7d7db0$0100a8c0@TL01>
I just responded to Trey's "15 days" post and thought I'd throw this out:
1. These days I get on casually for just about everything. (Hopefully this
season N5OT will be ready, but it might not, so I might still be casual this
season).
2. 30 days makes me think "I'll do this later" (so would 15). (My excuse is
I don't have internet at the shack, but even when I operated from home I
still didn't do it right after the contest).
3. More than half the time I forget, because it's not high on the priority
list, because I operated casually.
4. Result - sponsor misses out on some more data, results are one smidge
less comprehensive.
5. If somebody in charge emailed me saying "we know you were on the air
casually, could you send us your data, please?" I would respond favorably.
("Oops. Sorry. Here you go....")
Tree did this from time to time for contests he scored. That old "personal
touch" makes a differernce. I am writing this to cq-contest so the N8BJQs
and N1NDs of the world would consider adding this to their arsenels.
I bet this could be done with software and all the log collector would have
to do is write the text of the resulting email. Trivial. I bet the
software already has this ability built into it just waiting to be used:
"Print a report of callsigns in the contest from whom logs have not yet been
received." Just a guess.
?
Mark, N5OT
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 26 08:19:33 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
scores decision)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0207252207450.10099-100000@shell1>
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020726071807.00a75960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 10:24 PM 7/25/02 -0400, Tim Totten, N4GN wrote:
>I'm certainly hard pressed to dream
>up even a wild hypothetical scenario where the difference between a 15-day
>and 30-day submission window would make any difference to me. And the
>goal of greatly reducing the time to report the results is certainly a
>worthy one.
>
>So I'm very much in favor of implementing a 15-day submission window,
>starting with this year's SS.
I wouldn't mind 15 days either, but I can't, for the life of me, figure out
why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by more than 15
days. Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented just
as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From balister at vt.edu Fri Jul 26 09:57:16 2002
From: balister@vt.edu (balister)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] RE: [iota-contest] IOTA Contest - Announced Operations
Message-ID: <3D4243B8@zathras>
You can add:
K4EP/P from NA112. QSL via CBA or buro. Also look for KF4NLM/P, QSL via
CBA or buro.
If we don't have a repeat of this morning storm :) Gotta luv the North
Carolina
coast in July.
Philip
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 26 10:05:13 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
In-Reply-To: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFOELEDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
<<SNIP>>
>
> OK, so there you have the details of my proposal. The purpose of this
> message is to solicit feedback from the contest community about how a
> 15 day log submission deadline would affect *you*. Please feel free
> to write me privately, or to post back to the cq-contest list itself
> and make your opinion heard -- either way is fine with me.
>
> Please limit your comments to how this change would have affected
> *you* personally in a contest during a recent year or how it might
> affect you in the future. I am not interested in hearing hypothetical
> situations such as "but, but, but, what if someone operates the
> contest from the USVI, then goes on a 16 day Carnival Cruise
> immediately after the contest, and during the cruise an asteroid falls
> out of the sky and disables the communications system rendering the
> onboard internet cafe inoperable?" I can think of plenty of
> hypothetical situations of this nature on my own, as well as plenty
> non-hypothetical ones. Earlier this year I spent 42 days in VP8/F,
> VP8/Sand and VP8/G, and I can tell you that I could have beaten the 15
> day deadline from any of these places had it been necessary. What I
> am looking for is *practical* feedback about problems that the 15 day
> deadline could possible create in your own personal situation.
I fully support this proposal. Something like this was EXACTLY what I was
hoping would be the consequence of moving the line scores out of QST.
As for some of your assumptions... Personally, the first thing I do with my
logs is immediately copy them to another media and then I either process the
logs the next day/evening (once my head is moderately clear), or they sit in
the computer until the deadline looms near. The absolute number of days to
the deadline has never been an issue with me. I've never been on a
DXpedition in a contest, however. But, it's hard for me to imagine any
location in the world that, short of a boat sinking or airplane crashing,
would not allow me to get to an internet port within 15 days. Or, put
differently, I would plan for that to happen with plenty of time to spare
for backup.
As evidence 15 days' being sufficient, I'll relate some of my experience
with cruise lines. I note that just about every cruise line offers cruises
in the 10-12 day-long time frame. In that time, a cruise can get you from
Istanbul to the east coast of Spain. Or, from Southampton, England to
Athens. Transatlantic is much shorter. BA to the Antarctic and back is
slightly less. And that's mostly with overnight cruising and sitting in a
port all day or meandering in beautiful bays looking at wildlife during the
day. So, can a fishing trawler make it from Unreachable Rock to Internet
City in 10-12 days without the sightseeing delays? Absolutely, IMHO.
<Now, if the deal is, he has to stop to fish, dunno :-)) >
Nice job. Thanks for taking the lead on vastly improving our results
publication.
Vy 73,
Gary W2CS
Apex, NC
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 26 10:21:21 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020725184432.00998ca0@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIELFDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Dave,
Your expose brought back some personal memories that were very similar. As
a kid I, too, would pour over contest line scores and imagine what kind of
station and op skills were required to be in that top ten list. Or, plot
how I was going to beat the kid across town who thoroughly trounced me in a
SS with only dipoles. I'd analyze the hell of them. Hell, I still do!
Kids of today (kids of all ages, but "kids") will have no problem doing the
same thing with the internet results. In fact, the various
searching/sorting will likely improve it a bit. As we, the contesting
community, become accustomed to this resource, I'm sure the copy will
improve as will pictures and station descriptions.
Bud, K2KIR, made an excellent point when he expresses concern about losing
the line scores as web sites change, systems crash, etc. A hundred
thousand printed copies probably stand a better chance of being kept safe
over time than web site content does.
I don't know if ARRL HQ still does this, but years ago they would keep at
least one copy of every QST (and other League pub) ever published. It was
neat to visit HQ and be able to pull one of these and gingerly look through
it. Something equivalent to that really needs to be implemented for the
computer line scores and writeups. In many ways these contest results,
pictures and station descriptions are our history. They show what we looked
like (gads!), bring back memories of that equipment we thought was state of
the art (we really made Qs with THAT?), and sets a statistical base for
comparision with future efforts (nr of participants, top scores, scores vs
sunspot cycle, ...).
What's the best way of preserving web site content for the future? I'm a
user of the web, not a web site architect. Is it possible to capture a
"snapshot" of the ARRL site or subset thereof that can be activated later
and still work? (Note this implies probably storing the computer image on
which it resides, and maybe at some points the computer itself, so that
supporting software is part of the archive.) I don't think the equivalent
of a batch of QSTs in a climate-controlled room is easily accomplished.
But it should be done.
73,
Gary W2CS
Apex, NC
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of David A. Pruett
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:08 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
>
>
> Back in the early seventies when I was a new ham (licensed 2-3 years) and
> starting to get very enthused about contesting, the QST contest writeups
> were a HUGE factor in increasing my knowledge. I was fortunate that the
> library at community college I attended for the first few years
> after high
> school had a rather complete collection of QSTs for the prior
> fifteen years
> or so. They were stored in a back room and the librarian would
> unlock the
> room and let me sit back there for hours digesting contest results.
>
> What was it that attracted my interest - line scores? Heck no!
> First, it
> was pictures of contest stations; no, not stations with a DX40 and an
> NC300, but pictures of competitive stations like W3GRF, K1LPL/3, XE1IIJ,
> W7RM, etc. It was always interesting to see what these guys were
> running,
> which gave me something to aspire to. Second were the tables
> showing QSOs
> and mults (varied depending on the contest); again, showing me what was
> possible. And finally, contest writeups which explained the
> contest - who
> beat who, and why; significant scores, antecdotes, etc.; much more than
> simple recitations of first, second and third places in each category.
>
> Its been a number of years since I've read a contest writeup in a
> magazine
> which I truly enjoyed. The CQWW writeups, IMHO, are better than the ARRL
> ones because K3EST is deeply involved in the contest and understands what
> went on. I commend the ARRL recent writeups (particularly the on-line
> versions) by guest authors which have been a great improvement and will
> continue to get better as these writers gain experience (that is,
> assuming
> they don't burn out and quit). Still there is room for
> improvement - IMHO
> there needs to be more pictures and more comparison breakdowns. For
> example, the January VHF SS writeup lacked the traditional boxes with top
> QSOs and grids per band. I'm not sure whether scoring info by band was
> available in the results - even if so, sorting through hundreds of scores
> is a lot of work for the reader when the author might be able to run a
> database query and format it into a table with little work.
>
> I believe that an attractive, interesting article about the results of a
> contest has a place in QST. I'm not so much against including
> line scores
> as I am a proponent of better use of space. I'd prefer to *read
> about the
> contest* and opposed to going glassy-eyed over columns of data.
>
> At the same time, we contesters need to get off our butts. We need to
> submit more photos, stories, etc. about our contest efforts as
> material for
> the writeup authors to use. And those of us who are capable of writing
> need to step up and volunteer to do the writeups. N1ND's time is put to
> much better use making the contest results happen.
>
> FWIW.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave/K8CC
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Jul 26 09:40:24 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <029701c2344a$ad7e8750$0100a8c0@TL01>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207260830540.21444-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> I can't help thinking that kids today are more web-fluent than we were ever
> magazine-fluent. All the kids I mentor (about 5 whiz-kids) do things with
> their hands on a keyboard and mouse that I can't even follow because it
> happens too fast, and every last one of them types faster than any of us
> ever did in High School.
>
Yes, but can they string up a 40 meter dipole? Solder parts onto a PC
poard? (I won't even say surface-mount IC's.) Replace a water pump on an
Intrepid? (I replaced a water pump on a 1963 Chevy when I was 16, but
replacing one on an Intrepid may well be impossible :-)
It is true that computers have become an important part of many peoples'
lives, but there is still the real world out there and I still believe in
Robert Heinlein's long list of "things a man should be able to do" - to
quote him, "specialization is for insects."
>
> PS. Tree, if you don't want to get too close to the lighter fluid with the
> match, you can do this really cool thing with a match and a can of WD-40.
>
Someone showed me that trick once as a possible self-defense device. I
guess as long as the spray is blowing the flame AWAY from the nozzle,
you're OK, but you have to watch it when you stop spraying. :-)
73, Zack W9SZ
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 26 10:15:53 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
References: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207260830540.21444-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <006f01c234af$ffb701e0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Zack asked:
> Yes, but can they string up a 40 meter dipole? Solder parts onto a PC
> poard? (I won't even say surface-mount IC's.) Replace a water pump on an
> Intrepid? (I replaced a water pump on a 1963 Chevy when I was 16, but
> replacing one on an Intrepid may well be impossible :-)
Well, one of them can put up a dipole, I know. He's licensed and has
antennas up. I helped, too. I know another one of them can do his own
major car repairs. I don't know if any of them solder.
It's a good point, Zack, but my comment was mostly aimed at "where
youngsters are most likely to bump into contest results." I think they are
more likely to find it by random webbing than by walking down the street and
seeing QST any more.
Mark, N5OT
>From swca at swbell.net Fri Jul 26 10:26:54 2002
From: swca@swbell.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020726071807.00a75960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <009601c234b0$9bf2e330$0100a8c0@TL01>
>I can't, for the life of me, figure out
>why that should improve timeliness of result
>delivery by more than 15 days.
Um, web-based results? Trey said:
>45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
Now that QST results are history, there's another 45 days right there. The
time is right to try and move closer to quicker results.
Mark, N5OT
>From W4EF at dellroy.com Fri Jul 26 08:29:43 2002
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Michael Tope)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
References: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIELFDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <179001c234b0$e2492c90$6501a8c0@1800XP>
Gary,
If you do a "save as" from internet explorer, it will save everything
you are looking at. I use this to save Ebay transactions that eventually
go away from their website.
73 de Mike, W4EF...................
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 6:21 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
> Dave,
>
> Your expose brought back some personal memories that were very similar.
As
> a kid I, too, would pour over contest line scores and imagine what kind of
> station and op skills were required to be in that top ten list. Or, plot
> how I was going to beat the kid across town who thoroughly trounced me in
a
> SS with only dipoles. I'd analyze the hell of them. Hell, I still do!
>
> Kids of today (kids of all ages, but "kids") will have no problem doing
the
> same thing with the internet results. In fact, the various
> searching/sorting will likely improve it a bit. As we, the contesting
> community, become accustomed to this resource, I'm sure the copy will
> improve as will pictures and station descriptions.
>
> Bud, K2KIR, made an excellent point when he expresses concern about losing
> the line scores as web sites change, systems crash, etc. A hundred
> thousand printed copies probably stand a better chance of being kept safe
> over time than web site content does.
>
> I don't know if ARRL HQ still does this, but years ago they would keep at
> least one copy of every QST (and other League pub) ever published. It was
> neat to visit HQ and be able to pull one of these and gingerly look
through
> it. Something equivalent to that really needs to be implemented for the
> computer line scores and writeups. In many ways these contest results,
> pictures and station descriptions are our history. They show what we
looked
> like (gads!), bring back memories of that equipment we thought was state
of
> the art (we really made Qs with THAT?), and sets a statistical base for
> comparision with future efforts (nr of participants, top scores, scores vs
> sunspot cycle, ...).
>
> What's the best way of preserving web site content for the future? I'm a
> user of the web, not a web site architect. Is it possible to capture a
> "snapshot" of the ARRL site or subset thereof that can be activated later
> and still work? (Note this implies probably storing the computer image on
> which it resides, and maybe at some points the computer itself, so that
> supporting software is part of the archive.) I don't think the equivalent
> of a batch of QSTs in a climate-controlled room is easily accomplished.
>
> But it should be done.
>
> 73,
>
> Gary W2CS
> Apex, NC
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of David A. Pruett
> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:08 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
> >
> >
> > Back in the early seventies when I was a new ham (licensed 2-3 years)
and
> > starting to get very enthused about contesting, the QST contest writeups
> > were a HUGE factor in increasing my knowledge. I was fortunate that the
> > library at community college I attended for the first few years
> > after high
> > school had a rather complete collection of QSTs for the prior
> > fifteen years
> > or so. They were stored in a back room and the librarian would
> > unlock the
> > room and let me sit back there for hours digesting contest results.
> >
> > What was it that attracted my interest - line scores? Heck no!
> > First, it
> > was pictures of contest stations; no, not stations with a DX40 and an
> > NC300, but pictures of competitive stations like W3GRF, K1LPL/3, XE1IIJ,
> > W7RM, etc. It was always interesting to see what these guys were
> > running,
> > which gave me something to aspire to. Second were the tables
> > showing QSOs
> > and mults (varied depending on the contest); again, showing me what was
> > possible. And finally, contest writeups which explained the
> > contest - who
> > beat who, and why; significant scores, antecdotes, etc.; much more than
> > simple recitations of first, second and third places in each category.
> >
> > Its been a number of years since I've read a contest writeup in a
> > magazine
> > which I truly enjoyed. The CQWW writeups, IMHO, are better than the
ARRL
> > ones because K3EST is deeply involved in the contest and understands
what
> > went on. I commend the ARRL recent writeups (particularly the on-line
> > versions) by guest authors which have been a great improvement and will
> > continue to get better as these writers gain experience (that is,
> > assuming
> > they don't burn out and quit). Still there is room for
> > improvement - IMHO
> > there needs to be more pictures and more comparison breakdowns. For
> > example, the January VHF SS writeup lacked the traditional boxes with
top
> > QSOs and grids per band. I'm not sure whether scoring info by band was
> > available in the results - even if so, sorting through hundreds of
scores
> > is a lot of work for the reader when the author might be able to run a
> > database query and format it into a table with little work.
> >
> > I believe that an attractive, interesting article about the results of a
> > contest has a place in QST. I'm not so much against including
> > line scores
> > as I am a proponent of better use of space. I'd prefer to *read
> > about the
> > contest* and opposed to going glassy-eyed over columns of data.
> >
> > At the same time, we contesters need to get off our butts. We need to
> > submit more photos, stories, etc. about our contest efforts as
> > material for
> > the writeup authors to use. And those of us who are capable of writing
> > need to step up and volunteer to do the writeups. N1ND's time is put to
> > much better use making the contest results happen.
> >
> > FWIW.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Dave/K8CC
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 26 08:47:22 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade
In-Reply-To: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020726073248.00af9470@pop3.eskimo.com>
At 06:10 PM 7/25/2002 -0700, Trey Garlough wrote:
Over the past couple of years I have noticed a trend in how contest
logs are submitted. There is one spike that occurs right after the
contest and another spike the occurs right before the log submission
deadline, and during the intervening weeks the robot becomes very
quiet.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I might add that the same exact scenario plays out on the
unofficial 3830 summaries. In the past, I would only post
summaries for a couple weeks after a contest. However, I noticed
we could lose a significant number of participants that always
waited until just before the deadline. For that reason, the
final summary is now always after the log deadline even if
intervening weeks are empty of posts.
I'm sure there are a myriad of reasons for those late logs
but I personally feel 2 weeks and a day are more than sufficient to
get the results in. I also agree it's part of the contest to meet
whatever deadline is set. Seeing line scores six months after
the event (BTW, that's QST - CQ magazine is 12 months!) is like
reading box scores for the local ball team after the season is over.
My input to this "voice" vote - aye! :>)
73
dink, n7wa
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Fri Jul 26 10:06:00 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020726071807.00a75960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <014c01c234b5$f3d3bca0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
> I wouldn't mind 15 days either, but I can't, for the life of me, figure
out
> why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by more than 15
> days. Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented
just
> as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
Excellent point! 15 days is a small saving -- 6-12 months is a big saving.
It would be less disruptive to leave the submission window at 30 days and
have the results posted to the web within 60 days.
BUT what happens if you are not an ARRL member - do you have to wait an
additional 30 days until, for example, the SS results are release from the
members only section? I have never understood the logic of encouraging
everyone to enter contests and then penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30
day waiting period. I wonder if this annoying and discriminating policy will
change with movement of line scores to the web?
.. sylvan
????
----------------
Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From n4zr at contesting.com Fri Jul 26 12:07:13 2002
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
scores decision)
In-Reply-To: <009601c234b0$9bf2e330$0100a8c0@TL01>
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
<5.1.1.6.2.20020726071807.00a75960@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20020726110630.025cb280@pop.dc2.adelphia.net>
At 09:26 AM 7/26/02 -0500, N5OT wrote:
> >I can't, for the life of me, figure out
> >why that should improve timeliness of result
> >delivery by more than 15 days.
>
>Um, web-based results? Trey said:
>
> >45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
>
>Now that QST results are history, there's another 45 days right there. The
>time is right to try and move closer to quicker results.
Mark, my point was that all of those things could be (are) happening
regardless of whether the log deadline is 15 or 30 days, so the net
improvement from that single change is only 15 days.
I just think that the 30 to 15-day change needs to be considered on its own
merits.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
>From k1mk at arrl.net Fri Jul 26 09:18:52 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
Message-ID:
<20020726081853.28731.h014.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Fri, 26 July 2002, Pete Smith wrote:
> but I can't, for the life of me,
> figure out why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by
> more than 15 days.
I think you're right Pete, the big improvement in what Trey is proposing
comes from challenging the log checkers (and maybe even the article
writers) to turn things around ASAP rather than working to the deadlines
imposed by the QST publication schedule.
> Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented
> just as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
Previoulsy, was there anything to prevent scores and even the entire
results article from being prepared well in advance of their required
deadlines?
73,
Mike K1MK
Michael Keane K1MK
k1mk@arrl.net
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>From n6nt at ispwest.com Fri Jul 26 09:38:07 2002
From: n6nt@ispwest.com (Bruce Sawyer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
Message-ID: <000701c234ba$785fc960$ab755142@fpfzqlga>
Dink sez:
>However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
>going on-line in three short words.
>
>
>I like 'em.
Ditto. I don't know who did the web page design on this one, but I think it
is absolutely fabulous. You can ask the page to select entries by a number
of different criteria (e.g. club, power level, category) and then sort the
selected entries by a succession of different criteria. It's trivially easy
to manipulate all the data in just about any way you can imagine, and the
results are clearly presented. Somebody did one heck of a good job in
designing this thing, and I think it's a huge step forward. Matter of
fact, it took me no time at all to see that among the HP entrants in the 10m
contest there was only one case where the US/VE winner beat the DX winner:
K1KI over little 'ole me. Kudos to Tom for that one.
Bruce, N6NT/ZF2NT
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 26 12:27:38 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #285 - 14 msgs
References: <200207261504.g6QF4UhF030447@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <025801c234ba$65f03e40$03010a0a@office1>
Dennis,
My understanding (and I could be wrong) from people I've talked to both at
the League and/or involved in Logbook of the World is that contest logs will
not automatically be sent over to the LotW system. There are a lot of good
reasons for this, but the chief one is that you have to (or will have to)
have a registered digital signature in order to upload logs to LotW for
security reasons. I'm sure many will argue that this is an unnecessary step
or overbearing secruity requirements, but that's the way it's going to be.
But if you think it through... OK, so you email your Cabrillo log in to the
contest desk. What's one more email to the LotW system -- 15 seconds? So
it really shouldn't be a problem as a practical matter.
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Ponsness" <wb0wao@hotmail.com>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL, Line Scores, Etc.
One of the down sides is not seeing you call in print in QST, but I can live
with that. I must say that I am impressed with the content on the ARRL
website. Especially the LCR's - showed me where I needed to improve <grin>
! I can live with the change.
I do agree that the time should be cut to 15 days for submissions AND most
definately that the results be "published" very soon after. 6 months is
waaaay to long to wait. The results should be made available within 30 days
of the event.
Now, when will the 'test logs be incorporated into the "LoTW" project? That
is something that I know I would love to see. If the Q is good enough for
the ARRL to accept as a valid 'test Q, it should be good enough to accept
for WAS, DXCC, etc. I am not a "big gun" in the contesting game (100w,
vertical, wire antennas) and I think I have received a total of a couple
dozen QSL requests from 'test Q's. I can only imagine what a major 'test
station gets!
Anyway, I will still participate in the 'tests, have fun, and give out some
Q's. Look for me in the pileups!
73
Dennis - WB0WAO
(Searchin' and Pouncin')
NJQRP #329
FPQRP #-347
SOC #499
FISTS # 9299
GACW #622
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Fri Jul 26 12:17:04 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
In-Reply-To: <006f01c234af$ffb701e0$0100a8c0@TL01>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207261106040.27046-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> Zack asked:
>
> > Yes, but can they string up a 40 meter dipole? Solder parts onto a PC
> > poard? (I won't even say surface-mount IC's.) Replace a water pump on an
> > Intrepid? (I replaced a water pump on a 1963 Chevy when I was 16, but
> > replacing one on an Intrepid may well be impossible :-)
>
> Well, one of them can put up a dipole, I know. He's licensed and has
> antennas up. I helped, too. I know another one of them can do his own
> major car repairs. I don't know if any of them solder.
>
> It's a good point, Zack, but my comment was mostly aimed at "where
> youngsters are most likely to bump into contest results." I think they are
> more likely to find it by random webbing than by walking down the street and
> seeing QST any more.
>
> Mark, N5OT
>
Yes, it sure is easier to locate them on the web than in other places. I
haven't even looked at any of the local magazine stands in years, so I
don't know if QST or CQ or any ham radio mags are there.
W2EV recently made an example file of what can be done with line scores
on internet that would take up way too much space in a magazine. His
example was for a VHF QSO party. Lots of extra data including antennas
used and gain on each band, elevation above MSL, elevation above average
terrain, power on each band, etc. The extra space isn't so much of a
concern on internet. So lots of pictures can also be posted.
That sort of thing might get some youngsters excited. It would probably
get me excited, too!
73, Zack W9SZ
>From k1mk at arrl.net Fri Jul 26 10:31:19 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
Message-ID:
<20020726093124.7537.h002.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
On Fri, 26 July 2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> > I can't, for the life of me, figure out
> > why that should improve timeliness of result
> > delivery by more than 15 days.
>
> Um, web-based results? Trey said:
>
> > 45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
>
> Now that QST results are history, there's another 45 days right
> there.
It's unclear to which date that 45 day lead time is measured relative.
The ad deadline for QST is something like 45 days prior to the date of
issue so it makes sense if that was the editorial deadline as well.
For some time contest results articles have been published to the Web
some 4 to 6 weeks prior to their date of issue i.e. results appearing in
September QST are on the Web site now.
So it's likely that most of the delay that could have been attributed to
that 45 day lead has already been history for a while.
Other than an understandable reluctance to freeze changes well in
advance of the deadline for going to production, was there ever anything
standing in the way of early release of results?
73,
Mike K1MK
Michael Keane K1MK
k1mk@arrl.net
________________________________________________
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>From pschipelliti at att.net Fri Jul 26 19:08:56 2002
From: pschipelliti@att.net (pschipelliti@att.net)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Vertical Advice Needed
Message-ID:
<20020726180857.ITIE12658.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>
Hi Gang,
The W1DAD / K1MOM little pistol antenna farm presently
consists of two Carolina Windom Antennas (CW160 special
and CW620) at about 35-40 feet and a Cushcraft R7000+
ground mounted trap vertical.
This week we aquired two other used vertical antennas
that need to be restored. They are a GAP Challenger DX-
VIII and a Butternut HF6V. I have the manuals for both.
The R7000+ needs some work and since we have two more
antennas to "play" with, I want to swap out the R7000+
with either the GAP or the Butternut.
I have read the antenna reviews in the various journals
and looked at all of the eham.net reviews.
If you could put up either antenna, would you restore
the GAP or the Butternut? I would really like to
improve my 80 meter tx/rx so that may influence my
choice.
If you have knowledge or experience concerning these
antennas, which would you install?
I realize that there are many other, preferable antennas
and configurations. Overall, I'm happy with my Carolina
Windoms. I simply want to know which of these two
verticals would you use to replace the R7000+ as a
backup antenna?
Thanks & 73
Peter W1DAD@ARRL.NET
Atkinson, NH
>From wstinson at listenup.com Fri Jul 26 13:16:55 2002
From: wstinson@listenup.com (Walton Stinson, W0CP)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores decision
Message-ID: <014001c234d0$a362d380$3652a8c0@listenup.com>
Now that the changes to QST are official policy, I'd like to explain why it
happened, what it means, and why I voted as I did.
Ever since the League started doing readership surveys, we have known that
section news and contest line scores have very low readership. We also know
that they serve an essential function, that's why we have kept them. Several
years back, when we began our WEB initiative, we were hopeful that the web site
would eventually reach a level of sophistication and member acceptance that
would allow it to take over some of the "narrow casting" that we have been
forced for so many years to squeeze into QST. We realized then that the WEB
could potentially do a much better job of providing special interest member
communications, since it would be free from the severe restrictions on space
and the deadlines that go along with being in QST, thereby freeing space for
more feature articles in the journal. That day has now arrived.
While this will allow us to reduce our page count, to call this a cost
saving move would miss the real point. This is not a short term cost saving
move that was just thought up. We have been considering this for at least
five years. It is a common sense business decision that makes sense outside
of any cost saving considerations. QST is our most tangible member benefit,
and it's also a general interest magazine (we support some significant special
interests with NCJ, QEX, the WEB, and the DX Annual). We must give our
editorial staff the ability to choose material for QST that is going to have
the
greatest overall appeal to our membership. We know that section news and
contest line scores are important to publish, but pages of numbers and
callsigns don't have much general appeal. Even those who are regular readers
are likely to read just a tiny part of the coverage. Yet, together they consume
over 170 pages each year. Those pages are worth $4,437 each. Do the math. This
is not a trivial allocation of League resources.
Today, we are doing a better job for section news and contest results on the
WEB than we ever could do in QST, and we've just begun. It's simply a more
appropriate medium for delivering the info.We have an exceptional web site,
staffed by real pro's. For contests, we can release results months sooner,
and in searchable, sortable data base files. Now, we will have the freedom
to focus on the how, why, where, and fun of contesting in QST, rather than
publishing rows of numbers and call signs in tiny print. Now, we can use QST
to provide articles about the most interesting section or contest
activities - articles that will actually be read by most of the 160,000 hams
who receive the publication. We will actually have the ability to promote
these activities through expanded feature stories.
There are some who will view this proposal as a sign of decreased support
for contesting or section activities. That is definitely not the case. This
is simply a change. As both management and the board know from experience,
change does not occur easily at the League. Whatever the issue, there is
always a vocal minority that prefers things to stay as they are. And that's
fine. Changes like this shouldn't be easy. However, change is absolutely
necessary for the continued success and viability of any organization,
including the League. We now have the opportunity to improve our reporting of
section activities and contesting, while also improving the value and quality
of QST to the majority of our members. Let's make the most of it.
73, Walt W0CP
ARRL Director (RM)
(and past chairman of the Contest Advisory Committee)
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>From k0emt at dbbear.com Fri Jul 26 19:48:18 2002
From: k0emt@dbbear.com (Bryan - k0emt)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Line Scores - Backup/Alternate DB
In-Reply-To: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIELFDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
References: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIELFDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <20020726.18481889@mis.configured.host>
On 2002-07-26, 08:21:21, "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net> wrote
regarding RE: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores:
> What's the best way of preserving web site content for the future?
Well the web site offers to save the current selection
as either a CSV (Comma Separated Values) or Tab Delimited file.
If results for the entire contest are selected (no filters applied).
You can save the entire contents of either file.
Perhaps, contesting.com could "backup" the results on their website.
Maybe offering an alternate/additional interface to viewing/sorting?
If a database were to be built including all contests,
it could offer a way to see individual results over the years
in the same contest. It'd provide for numerous possibilities.
Of course this interface should provide for CSV, TAB and XML output.
73,
Bryan ? k0emt
http://www.dbbear.com/k0emt/
>From n2mg at contesting.com Fri Jul 26 12:52:51 2002
From: n2mg@contesting.com (Mike Gilmer - N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade
Message-ID:
<20020726115252.12010.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
N4ZR wrote:
> (M)y point was that all of those things could be
> (are) happening regardless of whether the log
> deadline is 15 or 30 days, so the net
> improvement from that single change is only 15 days.
For linescores on the web:
time-to-publish = DEADLINE + PROCESSING.
Currently DEADLINE = 30 days and according to Trey,
PROCESSING = 15 days. So the total is 45 days. Cut
DEADLINE to 15 days and we get a 33% improvement in
time-to-publish.
> I just think that the 30 to 15-day change needs to
> be considered on its own merits.
Suggesting the 30-to-15 day change only makes sense in
the aftermath of the recent reduction in publishing
leadtime enabled by the removal of line scores from
QST. Make this suggestion 6 months ago, and 15 days
would be virtually meaningless. Today, not so. And
in a way, it is standing on its own merits - the rest
of the improvement in score-publishing time is pretty
much a done deal. All that's left is the deadline.
73 Mike N2MG
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>From k8cc at comcast.net Fri Jul 26 15:51:07 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
In-Reply-To: <003f01c23470$f16980c0$6a2745cf@default>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020726143124.009b82a0@mail.comcast.net>
Speaking as another logchecker, I agree totally with the comments made by
K4JRB. If we are going to have fifteen day log deadlines and thirty days
for results, then we're going to have to live with the following realities:
1. Not enough time to guarantee arrival for overseas logs coming by postal
mail, whether on paper or floppy disk. I think that we here in America
take e-mail for granted and I for one am not willing to preclude entries
from stations who for whatever reason cannot electronically submit.
2. The entrant will have to be responsible for submitting a log in the
correct format. This is not a minor problem - in the 2001 ARRL 10M
Contest, 200 of the 2100+ electronic logs had errors as submitted which
would have precluded them being included in the results, and many of these
were big guns. Most of these are cockpit errors, which tell me that the
fast majority of entrants never look at their log files before mailing them
in. In the case of the 10M contest, fixing these problem logs (manual
editing, requesting new logs) took over 30 man-hours. With the compressed
timetables being proposed, anything more than minor corrections will go
into the bit bucket.
As Trey pointed out, the web site results could be updated for late logs
and corrections. However, if we allow for this what point is there to
publishing results after 30 days when the standings might change after 40
days? Furthermore, when is the cutoff to issue awards?
My point here is that there is more to this that simply decided to compress
the timeframe. If you want fast, recognize that there will be more
responsibility on you, the entrant if you want to be sure to make the results.
73,
Dave/K8CC
>From olinger at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 26 15:56:51 2002
From: olinger@bellsouth.net (olinger@bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
Message-ID: <20020726185651.GPWC1173.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@localhost>
ARRL will only take cabrillo, and they have a robot which bounces the log email
if something is amiss.
Otherwise they have the same problems you do.
I think that eventually the idea has to go away that there is someone at Log
Central who will convert and/or clean it up for you no matter how screwed up.
Go to cabrillo, period, clone ARRL's robot and bounce stuff that isn't in
format. No paper logs. 15 days. Run the programs and publish. 30 days.
Personally, I think it is arrogant and careless for people submitting logs to
think that there is a crew there just drooling to type in their logs and clean
up for them. Write a note back and ask them if their mother still picks up
their socks and underwear.
When all logs were paper it was a different deal, but it is a real stretch to
think that someone does not have access to a computer somewhere. Maybe
exceptions here and there, but 10% of the logs? Just refuse. PC's are
ubiquitous. Leave it to the log submitter to figure out how to get it into
email.
If one of our local contesters was having problems, the local chapter of PVRC
would do something to help out. One of our guys. Our business. Take care of our
own and all of that to keep up the club score.
Frankly there is enough stuff around, that in the rare case a DX type just
couldn't swing it, some number of us would put something together and SEND THEM
a PC, rather than lose the mult in the contest.
Have you seen the photo of an African native, nose ring, spectacular tribal
dress and headgear, spear, and all, setting down with his Mac powerbook, going
through his email?
TIME TO MOVE ON.
Things we do repeatedly on short notice and work around them when we're on
trips, etc:
Pay the mortgage
Pay the power bill
Pay the phone bill
Pay the water bill
Pay taxes
Renew driver's license
Renew car tags
Carry out the garbage for the collector
etc, etc, etc.
15 days to log, 30 days to final results. Yea. Bring it on.
73,
Guy, K2AV
>
> From: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
>
> I can't speak for any contest but the CQ 160 Contests. Shortening the
> deadline makes sense
> if and only if the following occurs:
> All logs are submitted electronically and are in PROPER cabrillo
> format.
>
> For the 2002 CQ 160 Contests I have received 438 SSB logs and 889 CW Logs
> plus check logs
> plus check logs. Lets look at the facts! 46 Paper logs were received on
> SSB and 77 on CW
> Most were small logs but several on both modes were significant. There
> were 40 old format electronic logs received on SSB and 89 on CW. Of these
> all but 5 were e-mailed. Of the rest supposedly cabrillo I find that 1 out
> of 5 do not check as cabrillo and have to be converted before
> running through the crass check/log check programs. On top of this I
> noticed that 18 on SSB and 31 on CW were lacking cabrillo elements as I
> logged them in. We are now up to a significant number of logs in both
> modes.
>
> Here are some of the problems:
>
> 1. The name of the contest in the cabrillo summary are wrong. There is
> an official name for most contests and for me its either CQ-160-CW or
> CQ-160-SSB. Anything else and its not cabrillo.
> 2. The category has fields missing or out of order.
> 3. The fields in the log portion are out of order or run together. If
> the mode and date are run together the log checker tells me mode and or date
> is not identified. I then put the log aside until I can put it in Wordpad
> and edit it to get correct fields.
>
> I suggest that every contestant should look at the log and if you are not
> sure the cabrillo is correct then run it through one of several cabrillo
> converter programs. I do find that CT, TR, and Writelog (recent versions)
> do produce good cabrillo.
>
> I just finished the SSB logs except for three problem logs and it took a
> full two weeks working several hours a day. With 100% cabrillo I could have
> checked the logs in a day and 70% of that is set up!. I now face a month of
> grinding through the CW logs. Get the log in proper format and the programs
> will do the rest!
>
> I am sure the CQ WW, WPX, and ARRL contests must face these problems.
>
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
>
>
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>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Fri Jul 26 21:16:44 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20020725074143.00a7c830@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <VA.00000008.00f44c39@gw3njw>
> However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
> going on-line in three short words.
>
>
> I like 'em.
>
Erm, am I being dense here, is there a way to separate the scores by
continent as there was in QST? That is invaluable.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
Contest Cambria-http://www.gw7x.org
>From k5zd at charter.net Fri Jul 26 21:10:28 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
In-Reply-To: <014c01c234b5$f3d3bca0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDEEEODLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
You said:
> I have never understood the logic of encouraging everyone to enter
contests and then
> penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30 day waiting period.
Maybe to encourage people to join the ARRL? Seems a reasonable goal since
they are sponsoring the event...
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Sylvan Katz
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 15:06 PM
> To: Contest Reflector
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
> scores decision)
>
>
> > I wouldn't mind 15 days either, but I can't, for the life of me, figure
> out
> > why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by more than 15
> > days. Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented
> just
> > as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
>
> Excellent point! 15 days is a small saving -- 6-12 months is a big saving.
> It would be less disruptive to leave the submission window at 30 days and
> have the results posted to the web within 60 days.
>
> BUT what happens if you are not an ARRL member - do you have to wait an
> additional 30 days until, for example, the SS results are release from the
> members only section? I have never understood the logic of encouraging
> everyone to enter contests and then penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30
> day waiting period. I wonder if this annoying and discriminating
> policy will
> change with movement of line scores to the web?
>
> .. sylvan
>
> ????
> ----------------
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> Saskatoon, SK
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> http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 26 17:18:39 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
References: <200207261939.g6QJd3hF019844@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <02df01c234e3$01495980$03010a0a@office1>
Sylvan,
At the moment, the web results are available "early" to League members and
are not available to the public until approx. 30 days after being published
in QST. Obviously this is an attempt to encourage people to join the
League.
However, that does not mean that this will continue once the line scores
move to the web. If you think about it, since the line scores will never be
published again after 1 Jan 2003, there is no longer a purpose to the delay.
So, I would not be at all surprised if this policy changes after the 1st.
But that is a guess on my part -- Dan N1ND up at ARRL Hq would be a better
person to ask that of.
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
From: Sylvan Katz <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
To: Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Sylvan Katz <jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca>
> I wouldn't mind 15 days either, but I can't, for the life of me, figure
out
> why that should improve timeliness of result delivery by more than 15
> days. Put another way, all of what Trey proposes could be implemented
just
> as well if the deadline remained 30 days.
Excellent point! 15 days is a small saving -- 6-12 months is a big saving.
It would be less disruptive to leave the submission window at 30 days and
have the results posted to the web within 60 days.
BUT what happens if you are not an ARRL member - do you have to wait an
additional 30 days until, for example, the SS results are release from the
members only section? I have never understood the logic of encouraging
everyone to enter contests and then penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30
day waiting period. I wonder if this annoying and discriminating policy will
change with movement of line scores to the web?
.. sylvan
????
----------------
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>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 26 17:27:36 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207261939.g6QJd3hF019844@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <02e001c234e3$0442c360$03010a0a@office1>
The long lead times go back to the early days of most contests when all of
the logs were submitted on (horrors!) paper, including dupe sheets, and
hand-written to boot. The long time lags were once required to give the
poor souls on the contest committees time to process (by hand) the logs and
assemble the summaries.
Given that the vast majority of us now use digital means to keep and submit
our contest logs, and given that some format standardization (ie CT, TRLog,
Cabrillo, etc. formats) can easily be mandated, which in turn implies that
more automation can be used to do some of the intial log comparisons... it
now seems obvious to conclude that the long lead times are no longer
neccesary for the vast majority.
I am not entirely comfortable with shaving the entry deadline from one month
to 15 days, though. There are enough extenuating circumstances where I
could see some problems. However, since we ought to be saving many months
in time between the easier methods of compiling the logs, and not having to
wait an additional 45 days between submission-to-printer, printing, and
mailing the magazine, I suggest we hold off on shaving the deadlines until
we see how much of an effect the other time savings has.
In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys? Tell me if
I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the contest
instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
To: swca@swbell.net
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
From: "Michael Keane, K1MK" <k1mk@arrl.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
On Fri, 26 July 2002, Mark Beckwith wrote:
> > I can't, for the life of me, figure out
> > why that should improve timeliness of result
> > delivery by more than 15 days.
>
> Um, web-based results? Trey said:
>
> > 45 day lead time to publish articles in QST
>
> Now that QST results are history, there's another 45 days right
> there.
It's unclear to which date that 45 day lead time is measured relative.
The ad deadline for QST is something like 45 days prior to the date of
issue so it makes sense if that was the editorial deadline as well.
For some time contest results articles have been published to the Web
some 4 to 6 weeks prior to their date of issue i.e. results appearing in
September QST are on the Web site now.
So it's likely that most of the delay that could have been attributed to
that 45 day lead has already been history for a while.
Other than an understandable reluctance to freeze changes well in
advance of the deadline for going to production, was there ever anything
standing in the way of early release of results?
73,
Mike K1MK
Michael Keane K1MK
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>From tavan at tibco.com Fri Jul 26 14:00:17 2002
From: tavan@tibco.com (Rick Tavan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <15680.41351.912529.279160@loja.kkn.net>
Message-ID: <3D41AA51.2060701@tibco.com>
Bravo, Trey! Great proposal. Keep working with CQ and ARRL to accelerate
both online and paper publication. In business there is a truism that
the value of an incentive is inversely proportional to the time between
the period of performance and the reward. Faster publication will incent
the contesting community to do more, more often, and that will be good
for the sport.
/Rick N6XI
Trey Garlough wrote:
>Many years ago I had a dream that we would be able to operate contests
>and then see the final results immediately after the events were over.
>This will not be achievable if we rely on QST as a delivery mechanism.
>...
>If we eliminate #1 by publishing on the web and cut #2 from 30 to 15
>days, then I believe we can *tranquilly* release the complete final
>results of Sweepstakes within 30 days of the contest. ... Why wait until June
>to read the magazine when you can
>see the results on the web in December?
>
--
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Palo Alto, CA 94304-1213
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408-896-0476 Cell
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Fri Jul 26 19:08:42 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
In-Reply-To: <02e001c234e3$0442c360$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIEMCDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
> In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> Tell me if
> I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the contest
> instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
>
>
No, it's not good enough.
I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a tad
more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now have,
15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves most of
that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal and
then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
Gary W2CS
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Fri Jul 26 17:09:30 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDEEEODLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Message-ID: <00de01c234f1$1d8ae600$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
>Maybe to encourage people to join the ARRL? Seems a reasonable goal since
>they are sponsoring the event...
A more reasonable goal would be to encourage more participation in contests.
I doubt if this is accomplished by penalizing non-ARRL entries. In some
contest I understand that now the DX logs account for 50% of the logs - many
or most of which are not the contestants are not ARRL members. (see
http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf ). They
are penalized by a 30 day policy that with holds results --- now really does
this inequity increase membership or encourage greater participation?
I kind doubt it. On the other hand I have heard a rumor that this inequity
is likely to disappear with the movement of line scores to the web. This
would be great news for the international contest community!
Now we wait and see :-)
.. sylvan
????
----------------
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Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
http://www.dynamicforesight.com/~ve5zx
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Fri Jul 26 16:27:54 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <VA.00000008.00f44c39@gw3njw>
References: <5.1.0.14.1.20020725074143.00a7c830@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020726152010.00af88f0@pop3.eskimo.com>
There is no continental breakdown as yet but I don't know why
that couldn't be added. I'm sure the data is there. (Now's the
time to get what we want.)
For now, go into Section, select NON-USA (It's not obvious it's there
the first time) - then sort by section. You will have a country by
country breakdown. I recommend the Tab or Comma delimited download
(it's quick) so you can review all the results without paging.
73
dink
At 08:16 PM 7/26/2002 +0000, Clive Whelan wrote:
> However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
> going on-line in three short words.
>
>
> I like 'em.
>
Erm, am I being dense here, is there a way to separate the scores by
continent as there was in QST? That is invaluable.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
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>From K7LXC at aol.com Fri Jul 26 19:44:20 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Vertical Advice Needed
Message-ID: <91.2088e979.2a732ac4@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/26/02 11:35:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
pschipelliti@att.net writes:
> If you could put up either antenna, would you restore
> the GAP or the Butternut? I would really like to
> improve my 80 meter tx/rx so that may influence my
> choice.
>
> If you have knowledge or experience concerning these
> antennas, which would you install?
We have published an HF vertical on-the-air comparison report - it's
available from <A HREF="http://www.championradio.com";>www.championradio.com
</A> and includes both of the above antennas.
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
Champion Radio Products
>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Sat Jul 27 00:30:44 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20020725074143.00a7c830@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <VA.00000009.0013eed6@gw3njw>
> However, I think I can better summarize my feelings about line scores
> going on-line in three short words.
>
>
> I like 'em.
>
Erm, am I being dense here, is there a way to separate the scores by
continent as there was in QST? That is invaluable.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
Contest Cambria-http://www.gw7x.org
>From clive at gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk Sat Jul 27 01:04:56 2002
From: clive@gw3njw.fsworld.co.uk (Clive Whelan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Non-line score coverage in QST
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20020726152010.00af88f0@pop3.eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <VA.0000000b.00333533@gw3njw>
> For now, go into Section, select NON-USA (It's not obvious it's there
> the first time) - then sort by section
>
Thanks, that's summat. Didn't even know there was a "NON-USA" section!
On my Cabrillo I have to put "DX" as a section, perhaps I can try that
too.
However, and I hope the league have the gains up, the Web version can
only be of real value if it can be broken down into continents. We have
a saying " don't throw the baby out with the bath water" ( perhaps you
do too; not sure) and this seems apposite to the current situation.
73
Clive
GW3NJW
gw3njw@gw7x.org
Contest Cambria-http://www.gw7x.org
>From hamcat at directvinternet.com Sat Jul 27 01:04:50 2002
From: hamcat@directvinternet.com (K4SB)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores
References: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIEMCDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <3D41E3A2.1D554FE5@directvinternet.com>
Something funny about this message. How can W2CS write both, which are
direct opposites of each other?
Assumming someone quoted someone incorrectly, I don't like the use of
the word "force" in regard to anyone. We've improved getting the final
results by 4 to 6 months. Why don't we get a little more input on how
long it takes remote DX stations to get their logs in?
Old saying, "In any change, make haste slowly"
73
Ed
Gary Ferdinand W2CS wrote:
>
> > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > Tell me if
> > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the contest
> > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> >
> >
>
> No, it's not good enough.
>
> I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a tad
> more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now have,
> 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves most of
> that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
>
> You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
> When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal and
> then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
>
> I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
>
> Gary W2CS
>From slazar19 at sgi.net Fri Jul 26 21:36:21 2002
From: slazar19@sgi.net (Spencer Lazar)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Good Grief
In-Reply-To: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDEEEODLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
References: <014c01c234b5$f3d3bca0$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20020726203621.0083f700@mail.stargate.net>
Good Grief, two posting from K5ZD on the reflector within in a week,
what's this world coming to?
Randy, you must have too much time on your hands!
I suppose when real broad band gets here, computers will look
like radios and we will be contesting, except in the setups
we will selecting antennas, locations ect. ect. ect and most
importantly a level playing field. WRTC will be a dinosaur
of the past.
One thing I would like to see in contests is a class for vintage
radios, seperate tx/rx (vacuum tubes), knife switches and wire
antennas, computerless operating and the clacking of dowkey 110
vac relays with all the buzzing.
Spike W9XR
At 08:10 PM 7/26/02 -0000, you wrote:
>You said:
>> I have never understood the logic of encouraging everyone to enter
>contests and then
>> penalizing non-ARRL members with a 30 day waiting period.
>
>Maybe to encourage people to join the ARRL? Seems a reasonable goal since
>they are sponsoring the event...
>
>Randy, K5ZD
>From k2av at contesting.com Fri Jul 26 21:36:45 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
References: <4.2.0.58.20020726143124.009b82a0@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <006001c23505$af8801f0$0500a8c0@swift>
I understand the thought, but does it have a multiplier against it in
the significant range.
Do you know of ANY international business that uses real post to move
INFORMATION around. An international business that can't move it's
information electronically is very quickly a bankrupt business. If I
wanted to get a floppy to a friend in EU, I would email it.
GOODS move by post, not INFORMATION, not any more.
Think about it. Here's a guy that has a pc and a logging program
likely. Costs him a quid or worse to physically mail a floppy to the
US, or he can take the floppy to a friend's house, and email the file,
for free.
Stories are everywhere about how having the internet has allowed
out-back businesses to sell to the world. Where are these people you
are worried about precluding? Let them exercise some initiative and
creativity.
A big gun can't get his log right. And it's the log checker's
responsibility to fix it? And the fact it's a big gun makes his gorked
log more worthy than a little guy's?
If a robot bounces said gorked log, the big gun knows right away.
Cabrillo is new, but everybody is learning it. And the robot is
democratic. It bounces all gorked logs.
The first time that a big gun doesn't get the log in on time, and all
his operators lose their spot in the standings, will be the LAST time
the big gun doesn't get his log in on time. Boss man will never hear
the end of it. (It may be W3LPL in the listings, but the score belongs
to the TROOPS.)
People can handle it.
LETS MOVE ON.
73,
Guy, K2AV
----- Original Message -----
From: "David A. Pruett" <k8cc@comcast.net>
To: "David L. Thompson" <thompson@mindspring.com>;
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Deadlines, log checking, and paper logs
> Speaking as another logchecker, I agree totally with the comments
made by
> K4JRB. If we are going to have fifteen day log deadlines and thirty
days
> for results, then we're going to have to live with the following
realities:
>
> 1. Not enough time to guarantee arrival for overseas logs coming by
postal
> mail, whether on paper or floppy disk. I think that we here in
America
> take e-mail for granted and I for one am not willing to preclude
entries
> from stations who for whatever reason cannot electronically submit.
>
> 2. The entrant will have to be responsible for submitting a log in
the
> correct format. This is not a minor problem - in the 2001 ARRL 10M
> Contest, 200 of the 2100+ electronic logs had errors as submitted
which
> would have precluded them being included in the results, and many of
these
> were big guns. Most of these are cockpit errors, which tell me that
the
> fast majority of entrants never look at their log files before
mailing them
> in. In the case of the 10M contest, fixing these problem logs
(manual
> editing, requesting new logs) took over 30 man-hours. With the
compressed
> timetables being proposed, anything more than minor corrections will
go
> into the bit bucket.
>
> As Trey pointed out, the web site results could be updated for late
logs
> and corrections. However, if we allow for this what point is there
to
> publishing results after 30 days when the standings might change
after 40
> days? Furthermore, when is the cutoff to issue awards?
>
> My point here is that there is more to this that simply decided to
compress
> the timeframe. If you want fast, recognize that there will be more
> responsibility on you, the entrant if you want to be sure to make
the results.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave/K8CC
>
>
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>From k1ir at designet.com Fri Jul 26 21:42:57 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 15 days is not enough time
Message-ID: <wix08z5phfkjln4.260720022042@designet-jsi>
I agree that making time-to-published-results as short as possible is a great
goal. But, two weeks is too tight a restriction in too many circumstances.
DXpedition groups commonly spend the week following the contest on vacation
without internet access, leaving only one more weekend to get it done. Multi's
often have technical problems that make assembling the final log a challenge.
And, log submission by non-English speaking DX participants and novices who are
unfamiliar with contest software is not trivial. And there are those of us who
want to decompress and have nothing to do with the radio or the log for a while
after a big effort. So, I think a month is pretty reasonable.
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>From n2mg at eham.net Fri Jul 26 22:52:59 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores decision)
References: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDEEEODLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
<00de01c234f1$1d8ae600$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
Message-ID: <003801c23510$56cb2d20$3201a8c0@mikehome>
VE5ZX wrote:
> >Maybe to encourage people to join the ARRL? Seems a reasonable goal
since
> >they are sponsoring the event...
>
> A more reasonable goal would be to encourage more participation in
contests.
I don't think this is what makes a "membership" organization tick. ARRL
sponsors the contests precisely TO attract membership. They don't have
members so they can sponsor contests. In fact, there are plenty at HQ who
would rather not have contests at all.
> I doubt if this is accomplished by penalizing non-ARRL entries.
Since we're talking about lemonade, I'd say they don't penalize non-member
entries, but rather, they reward member entries.
I'm sure it's no small thorn in the ARRL's side that non-members expect to
be treated with the same respect that members are. Can't really fault the
League for that. And I really don't fault non-USA folks for not joining the
ARRL but I do fault them for expecting equal treatment (maybe that's the
American in me talking?). Sure, ARRL "needs" as many DX ops as possible to
operate in their contests in order to make the contests attractive enough
that folks will have fun - fun which will inspire some of these same folks
to become members. If they ever conclude that fun-contests does not equate
to new-members, bye-bye (ARRL sponsorship of) contests.
73 Mike N2MG
>From k1mk at arrl.net Fri Jul 26 23:41:57 2002
From: k1mk@arrl.net (Michael Keane, K1MK)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade
In-Reply-To: <20020726115252.12010.h005.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.critic
alpath.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020726220631.0276d8e0@mail.peoplepc.com>
At 02:52 PM 7/26/02, Mike Gilmer - N2MG wrote:
>Suggesting the 30-to-15 day change only makes sense in
>the aftermath of the recent reduction in publishing
>leadtime enabled by the removal of line scores from
>QST. Make this suggestion 6 months ago, and 15 days
>would be virtually meaningless. Today, not so.
Nine months ago one could have made the suggestion that the final SS scores
be prepared and ready to go onto the Web site in mid-January rather than
waiting until mid-April when the results article was going to be needed by
the printer.
In that context a 30-to-15 day change would also have made sense. And it
would have raised the same issues now being brought up in regards to
accommodating paper logs and disks arriving via the mail and the loss of
schedule margin for dealing with anomalies.
73,
Mike K1MK
Michael Keane, K1MK
k1mk@alum.mit.edu
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Fri Jul 26 23:44:28 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207270224.g6R2O1hF032150@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <05da01c23517$89c05b40$03010a0a@office1>
Sorry Gary, but you and I will disagree with this one for now.
Considering the outcry last year when (under the dubious excuse of safety of
the mail) CQ Magazine forced all of us to enter only by electronic means, to
now propose to "force" contest entrants to rush in their logs and then
"force" the contest committee to rush compilation in another 2 weeks strikes
me as being too hasty.
Are we all so impatient that reducing the turn-around time between contest &
results from 6-8 months for the ARRL, and 8-10 months for CQ (just to pick
on two) to under 2 months isn't enough, but we're going to try to force-feed
it to 6 or even 4 weeks?
Remember, we're not dealing with a "closed" environment like the WRTC
competitions, where you have a relative small number of stations (50 or
less) competing for 24 hours. Compiling those results in a few hours is a
piece of cake. We're talking about 48 hour contests that literally involve
thousands, if not tens of thousands, of amateurs -- many of whom never have
or will send in logs, which always leave question marks about "uniques" and
"busted calls" and other potential problems to sort out.
Further, you must remember that in much of the world outside of North
America and Europe, Internet access is not as accessible nor as cheap as it
is here. I would not be at all surprised to learn that there are many
active contesters who have a computer in the shack, yet prefer to mail their
results in via a disk for whatever reasons.
I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
positive way to encourage more potential contesters. I think if we rise the
bar too high, we make the goal too difficult, it will do the exact opposite
by discouraging potential contesters and some of the active and less active
ones out there.
I also would question the ability to compile scores, even with automation,
in a day or two. Pending data to prove that one way or another, that
strikes me as being more than a bit optimistic. Can someone on one of the
major contest committees comment on whether or not automation makes one or
two days practical?
I am not saying that Trey's proposed 15 day deadline is a bad idea. But I
don't think we're quite ready for it yet. One thing at a time.
73, ron wn3vaw
"What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of our
time?" -- Howard Beale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
> In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> Tell me if
> I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the contest
> instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
>
>
No, it's not good enough.
I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a tad
more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now have,
15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves most of
that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal and
then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
Gary W2CS
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>From W1HIJCW at aol.com Sat Jul 27 00:16:02 2002
From: W1HIJCW@aol.com (W1HIJCW@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Vertical Advice Needed
Message-ID: <19b.5ed2d32.2a736a72@aol.com>
Dear Peter,
I don't have any experience with the GAP, but do have extensive experience
with the HF6V, the HF9V and the HF2V. I've installed and tuned probably 6 or
8 HF9's for various people, a few HF6's and at least 3 HF2's that I can
remember.
Recently when I moved, I had to make a choice about a multiband antenna that
would be a temporary solution until a tower, etc. could be installed. I chose
the HF6V to be roof mounted with the base at about 28 feet AGL. Why?
My experience was that with the Butternut antennas, I had the option of
optimizing the tuning on a band by band basis and found very little
interaction between bands that I could not eliminate. For example, my current
installation has a total of 5 radials. One is a non-resonant piece (50 feet
long) of 3 inch wide and 3 mil thick copper foil which runs for some 42 feet
along the ridge pole of the house, it then makes a right angle turn to go
down the roof for the remaining 8 feet. The other radials were "rough cut" to
be approximate 1/4 wavelengths on 40, 30, 20, and 10 meters. They are
arranged symmetrically around the base of the antenna.
The result, after tuning and adjusting the coils at the base of the HF6 was
that on all bands (except the extreme end of 10 meters) the SWR (measured at
the end of the series matching transformer with an MFJ 269, and by the SWR
meter in my FT1000D) was less than 2 to 1 and in most cases was less than 1.5
to 1. That allows me to run the setup without using the tuner in the "D" (or
in my FT990 for that matter).
Setup and tuning time once the antenna was assembled was less than 2 hours.
The antenna is mounted to a wooden chimney with Rat Shack wall mounts.
The HF6 and 9 do have a weak point which is the connection between the two
ends of the series matching transformer and the feedline and antenna
respectively. Butternut was kind enough to replace mine at no cost, but I
would suggest that you replace the PL259 on one end and the "stacons" or
other connectors on the other.
BTW, I bought an HF2V and took it with me to French Polynesia to use during
the 2001 CQ WPX CW contest. It was mounted directly in the lagoon in about 18
inches of water and fed with 150 feet of RG8X (1/3 of which laid in the water
for 10 days). Never have I had an antenna perform so well on 80 and 40.
Similarly, we took an HF2V to Puerto Rico for the recent effort in Field Day
as NP4A. It was beach mounted and had two elevated radials for 80 meters.
Similar results (although not as good as mounting in the water!) :>)
Hope these comments help a bit. As usual YMMV.
73 es GL de Bill, W1HIJ/6
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>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 27 01:49:41 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
In-Reply-To: <05da01c23517$89c05b40$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFIEMHDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Ron, we agree on one point. We disagree with each other -HI. Although I
like the "for now" part :-) To your points:
1. Outcry: People hate change. We live with it and move on. This is no
different.
2. Yup, I'm that impatient. The technology exists. We should set a good
goal.
3. Uniques: Yup. There will always be question marks. Do the best we can.
4. Rest of world: I don't think it's the problem you and a few others
have voiced. I know of several stations that are rare that are club
stations. Internet access is not a problem. We're not always talking about
individual stations in some primitive, isolated area. Those are more likely
DXpeditions and my cruise ship analogy applies.
5. Encouraging others: I think "immediate" results-reporting provides
substantial encouragement. It's the immediate feedback or reward that
others have more lucidly described than I to which I refer. I agree with
those sentiments.
Good discussion, this. Whether it's 4 weeks, 6 or 8, in the end it's a
great improvement. I think we should do what we can to aim for 4 weeks with
a 15 day turn-in requirement, as Trey proposed. If we end up having to
delay it a bit with a contest or two for good reason, I doubt you'd hear
many complaints! (Hmm, well not from me anyway.)
Bedtime. 73 all.
Gary W2CS
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ron Notarius WN3VAW
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 10:44 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
> scores decision)
>
>
> Sorry Gary, but you and I will disagree with this one for now.
>
> Considering the outcry last year when (under the dubious excuse
> of safety of
> the mail) CQ Magazine forced all of us to enter only by
> electronic means, to
> now propose to "force" contest entrants to rush in their logs and then
> "force" the contest committee to rush compilation in another 2
> weeks strikes
> me as being too hasty.
>
> Are we all so impatient that reducing the turn-around time
> between contest &
> results from 6-8 months for the ARRL, and 8-10 months for CQ (just to pick
> on two) to under 2 months isn't enough, but we're going to try to
> force-feed
> it to 6 or even 4 weeks?
>
> Remember, we're not dealing with a "closed" environment like the WRTC
> competitions, where you have a relative small number of stations (50 or
> less) competing for 24 hours. Compiling those results in a few hours is a
> piece of cake. We're talking about 48 hour contests that
> literally involve
> thousands, if not tens of thousands, of amateurs -- many of whom
> never have
> or will send in logs, which always leave question marks about
> "uniques" and
> "busted calls" and other potential problems to sort out.
>
> Further, you must remember that in much of the world outside of North
> America and Europe, Internet access is not as accessible nor as
> cheap as it
> is here. I would not be at all surprised to learn that there are many
> active contesters who have a computer in the shack, yet prefer to
> mail their
> results in via a disk for whatever reasons.
>
> I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
> positive way to encourage more potential contesters. I think if
> we rise the
> bar too high, we make the goal too difficult, it will do the
> exact opposite
> by discouraging potential contesters and some of the active and
> less active
> ones out there.
>
> I also would question the ability to compile scores, even with automation,
> in a day or two. Pending data to prove that one way or another, that
> strikes me as being more than a bit optimistic. Can someone on one of the
> major contest committees comment on whether or not automation makes one or
> two days practical?
>
> I am not saying that Trey's proposed 15 day deadline is a bad idea. But I
> don't think we're quite ready for it yet. One thing at a time.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the
> hypocrisies of our
> time?" -- Howard Beale
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
> decision)
>
> > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > Tell me if
> > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after
> the contest
> > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> >
> >
>
> No, it's not good enough.
>
> I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all
> to be a tad
> more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation
> we now have,
> 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It
> leaves most of
> that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
>
> You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
> When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely
> difficult goal and
> then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
>
> I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
>
> Gary W2CS
>
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>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Sat Jul 27 02:05:11 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Recruiting 101
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207270041390.22765-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
I'm now involved with recruiting members for next weekend's NAQP CW
contest. I'm having some success recently recruiting people to operate
the CW Sprint and NAQP contests, and thought I might pass on some hints in
hopes that other clubs will also have success recruiting members for
contests.
1) Announce your intentions here on CQ-Contest and club mail reflectors.
Normally I find this to be mildly successful. Be sure to mention that you
are not just looking for serious operators... that you are fielding teams
of part-timer ops too.
2) The best technique I have found is contacting each person directly by
e-mail personally. I follow the same method as is #1 and normally put in
some kind of note about us trying to show up some other club or something
else that we can all get our heads around.
3) Finding Members. I first look at old results for the contest in
question. Then I move to other contests. For instance, I've had really
good luck this time recruiting guys that operate the ARRL 160 and 10 meter
contests as well as CW SS. The results are on the web, and almost
everyone has an email address that can easily be had on eHam.net or
QRZ.com. These are also contests that are more domestic in nature, which
is right up the alley of the NAQP.
4) Finding More Members. Team work! I ask everyone on our teams to
recruit just one other person to be a member of the teams. This has
worked very well in the past, as there is no way I can know every
potential operator in the 4th call area.
5) Organization. I'm now keeping everyone's callsign, name, etc, in a
database so I can quickly refer to it the next running of the contest.
6) Post cards. Some of the Sprint regulars have recently taken up writing
potential operators post cards in an effort to remind them of a contest.
I personally find email with the expressed intent of joining a team is
more effective.
7) Team placement competition. Back in the early 80s there was this
phenom called the Midwest Popguns organzied by Joe (W8LNO) and Tom
(N0SS) for the CW Sprint. Team placement was based on your finish in the
prior contest. The Popguns fieleded several teams, and I recall being
highly motivated to move from team last to team next. We are just
starting with this here in W4 for next month's Sprint.
So far I have 22 guys signed up for next weekend. The TCG and FCG are
also fielding at least 2 teams each. I figure we'll have more than 50
guys from W4 active to some degree or another! Now think how much fun the
contest would be if this could be nearly duplicated across 10 call areas!
73
Bill, W4AN
>From W2CS at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 27 02:06:20 2002
From: W2CS@bellsouth.net (Gary Ferdinand W2CS)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores
In-Reply-To: <3D41E3A2.1D554FE5@directvinternet.com>
Message-ID: <ADEJKJINLBKGMNGALFCFAEMIDOAA.W2CS@bellsouth.net>
Ed,
I think you're attributing the first part of your quoted text to me, which
is incorrect. That was the text that my posting was in reference to. Note
that first paragraph as an extra set of ">" symbols in front of it.
It is common practice on the internet to include a piece of the posting to
which you're replying so that readers of your reply have a context. It
would appear, Ed, that you have misinterpreted this context material, to
which I was replying, as my own text.
Rather, I was writing in rebuttal.
As to making haste slowly in any change...gosh, that saying must be
pre-high-tech age. I can't imagine any company with serious competition in
today's markets having such a philosophy; they'd be out of business with
much haste. My mindset is influenced by that, I'm afraid. So I tend to try
to accomplish a difficult goal, risking some degree of failure, rather than
achieve a comfortable goal, and risk achieving mediocrity, instead. A
matter of perspective.
An old saying: "He who hesitates is lost."
So much for ancient pithy proverbs :)
73,
Gary W2CS
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of K4SB
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 8:05 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL report on line scores
>
>
> Something funny about this message. How can W2CS write both, which are
> direct opposites of each other?
>
> Assumming someone quoted someone incorrectly, I don't like the use of
> the word "force" in regard to anyone. We've improved getting the final
> results by 4 to 6 months. Why don't we get a little more input on how
> long it takes remote DX stations to get their logs in?
>
> Old saying, "In any change, make haste slowly"
>
> 73
> Ed
>
> Gary Ferdinand W2CS wrote:
> >
> > > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to
> assemble and
> > > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > > Tell me if
> > > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months
> after the contest
> > > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > No, it's not good enough.
> >
> > I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> > entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all
> to be a tad
> > more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation
> we now have,
> > 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> > that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It
> leaves most of
> > that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
> >
> > You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on
> it later.
> > When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely
> difficult goal and
> > then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
> >
> > I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
> >
> > Gary W2CS
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>From kl7y at alaska.net Sat Jul 27 07:33:28 2002
From: kl7y@alaska.net (Dan Robbins)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 15 days too short
Message-ID: <3D4230A8.37A901E3@alaska.net>
I'm glad that so many think 15 days is long enough, but we don't need a
duration that covers the requirements of most of the contesters, we need
one that covers ALL contesters. I've had to ask for two extensions in
the last several years and that's with existing 30 day log submission
deadlines. It wasn't too long ago I helped a first time contest entrant
unscramble a log - just in time to beat the 30 day deadline. 30 days is
just fine, leave it alone.
Dan KL7Y
>From n6tj at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 27 01:27:49 2002
From: n6tj@sbcglobal.net (James Neiger)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
References: <200207270224.g6R2O1hF032150@contesting.com>
<05da01c23517$89c05b40$03010a0a@office1>
Message-ID: <001d01c2353f$1f5b8ae0$7c6f7e42@sbcglobal.net>
I guess I agree with Ron:
Even if we can maybe hasten the time to the final results, What's the Big
Rush? Its worked so well for so many years, why do we now think it's
broken?
Just because many things in our lives CAN and DO go faster, does everything
have to?
For many years, the speed limit was 55 MPH. Then they cranked it back up to
65, and in some places even 70. Now, if you're not doing at least 80 on the
91 Freeway, hey buddy, get out of the way. Does that make our lives
necessarily "better"?
I recall when I was thrilled with my first computer, humming along at a nice
16 MHz. Now I'm wondering if my new 1.3 GHz notebook is fast enough? Give
me a break, please..........
Everything today is about speed, speed, speed. Even when driving in Italy
or Germany, do I take a relaxed tour @ 100 km/hour so I might actually SEE
some of the beautiful countryside? Nah, I've got to try and COMPETE with
the locals, and crank it up to 200 km/hr (at least). Is my quality of life
better by doing so? I think not. It's just dumb, dumb, dumb.
Now we're led to believe, we can't live without INSTANTANEOUS GRATIFICATION
on our contest victory?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But it's very thoughtful of The Kid (as
Trey is known around this household) to worry that we old guys may not be
around long enough for the final results.
The meaningfulness of the answer, for me, far exceeds the quest for
expediency, in this case.
Vy 73
Jim Neiger
N6TJ
>
> Considering the outcry last year when (under the dubious excuse of safety
of
> the mail) CQ Magazine forced all of us to enter only by electronic means,
to
> now propose to "force" contest entrants to rush in their logs and then
> "force" the contest committee to rush compilation in another 2 weeks
strikes
> me as being too hasty.
>
> Are we all so impatient that reducing the turn-around time between contest
&
> results from 6-8 months for the ARRL, and 8-10 months for CQ (just to pick
> on two) to under 2 months isn't enough, but we're going to try to
force-feed
> it to 6 or even 4 weeks?
>
> Remember, we're not dealing with a "closed" environment like the WRTC
> competitions, where you have a relative small number of stations (50 or
> less) competing for 24 hours. Compiling those results in a few hours is a
> piece of cake. We're talking about 48 hour contests that literally
involve
> thousands, if not tens of thousands, of amateurs -- many of whom never
have
> or will send in logs, which always leave question marks about "uniques"
and
> "busted calls" and other potential problems to sort out.
>
> Further, you must remember that in much of the world outside of North
> America and Europe, Internet access is not as accessible nor as cheap as
it
> is here. I would not be at all surprised to learn that there are many
> active contesters who have a computer in the shack, yet prefer to mail
their
> results in via a disk for whatever reasons.
>
> I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
> positive way to encourage more potential contesters. I think if we rise
the
> bar too high, we make the goal too difficult, it will do the exact
opposite
> by discouraging potential contesters and some of the active and less
active
> ones out there.
>
> I also would question the ability to compile scores, even with automation,
> in a day or two. Pending data to prove that one way or another, that
> strikes me as being more than a bit optimistic. Can someone on one of the
> major contest committees comment on whether or not automation makes one or
> two days practical?
>
> I am not saying that Trey's proposed 15 day deadline is a bad idea. But I
> don't think we're quite ready for it yet. One thing at a time.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> "What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of
our
> time?" -- Howard Beale
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
> decision)
>
> > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble and
> > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > Tell me if
> > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the
contest
> > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> >
> >
>
> No, it's not good enough.
>
> I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a
tad
> more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now
have,
> 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves most
of
> that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
>
> You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it later.
> When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal
and
> then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
>
> I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
>
> Gary W2CS
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>From g4buo at compuserve.com Sat Jul 27 07:01:00 2002
From: g4buo@compuserve.com (Dave Lawley)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Log Checking
Message-ID: <200207270601_MC3-1-848-E994@compuserve.com>
This sort of statement worries me:
>I just finished the SSB logs except for three problem logs and it took a
> full two weeks working several hours a day. With 100% cabrillo I could
have
> checked the logs in a day and 70% of that is set up!. I now face a month
of
> grinding through the CW logs. Get the log in proper format and the
programs
> will do the rest!<
My understanding was that, for CQWW contests at least, the
computer does NOT automatically apply any penalties. It
produces a list of potential errors and these are reviewed
by real people who decide whether they really are errors
and whether a penalty should apply. Have things changed,
such that the computer now automatically applies the penalty?
If not, I can't see how the logs can be checked in a day. Sure,
the results for WRTC were produced in a day but there were
only 52 entries, all (presumably) conforming to the specified
log format, and a team led by K1ZZ/G3SXW stayed up all
night manually reviewing the potential errors identified by
the computer log checking process.
Dave G4BUO
>From n2mg at eham.net Sat Jul 27 08:45:05 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020726220631.0276d8e0@mail.peoplepc.com>
Message-ID: <002f01c23563$0d65b940$3201a8c0@mikehome>
K1MK wrote:
> Nine months ago one could have made the suggestion that the final SS
scores
> be prepared and ready to go onto the Web site in mid-January rather than
> waiting until mid-April when the results article was going to be needed by
> the printer.
Sure, technically it seems possible, but the web was considered as a
secondary vehicle for the publication of scores. This is clearly no longer
the case. (Also, I can *imagine* some stir caused by publishing the scores
on the web - and the "members only" or not issue - that much earlier than in
the magazine._
The ARRL moves naturally slowly. There are a lot of folks' opinions to
gather into a consensus (of sorts). Regardless of all the evil conspiracy
theories, I'll bet it took a lot of gnashing of teeth to dump the line
scores. (Hell, this reflector caused some that!)
The door is open now. Personally I'd like to see rather comprehensive
changes implemented. Get it all over at once. Otherwise every year one
would have to read the rules (not a bad idea actually) to see what the dang
League has changed with the submission criteria again.
1) no line scores in QST
2) forced Cabrillo
3) short deadline
4) results out in December
OK..."forced Cabrillo" bothers me somewhat...but NOT for SS (I think those
Carib guys *should* sweat a little! ;-) )
Even so, I feel mandatory Cabrillo looms. If there's something we in the US
can offer to our alleged "poor overseas bretheren with no email access" in
terms of a process to help them out, now might be the time...
Mike N2MG
>From k1ir at designet.com Sat Jul 27 09:26:37 2002
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
Message-ID: <t83ad26ssmyfq07.270720020826@designet-jsi>
WN3VAW said:
>I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
positive way to encourage more potential contesters.<
Thank heaven somebody finally said something a little bit strategic! This is
the first hint of forward thinking that I've heard in this entire conversation.
Talking about a 15 day change in the results schedule seems to be an empty
effort when the implications of this change are much more far-reaching.
Over the past six months, about thirty-five of us got together and contributed
to a major proposal about ARRL contest coverage which was submitted to the ARRL
BoD just before their meeting. I didn't expect to get an official reaction from
HQ right away, but I did expect to hear some reaction and conversation about
the proposal here on the reflector.
Maybe it was too much trouble to click on one of the links in my previous
message:
PDF version: http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
or
HTML version: http://www.designet.com/k1ir/ContestCoverageProposal_071702.htm
So, I'll attach it here. Unfortunately, the formatting of the charts won't make
it through the reflector, so you'll have to look at one of the original
documents if you are interested in those.
Honestly, I am quite disappointed. I was really hoping that you'd take a look
at the hard work done by your peers and engage the subject fully.
Here are a few points and questions to get you thinking:
1. The group concluded that contest coverage in QST is really lacking, and that
the pages remaining after line scores are removed should be used much more
creatively. Ideas have been presented. Which do you like/hate?
2. While the web is now being used to effectively present contest results,
there is still a need for a more permanent record and for hardcopy. How do we
do both?
3. The web is much more appropriate for conveying the contesting "experience."
We can do it with sound, graphics and video. It can be stored. It can be live.
How can we get this done?
Jim Idelson K1IR
email k1ir@designet.com
web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
*********** Forwarded Proposal ***********
Contest Coverage Working Group
Guidelines and Proposals
2 July 2002
INTRODUCTION
Lead Author ? Jim Idelson, K1IR
Approach
The Working Group has developed three interrelated proposals and this overview
document, which addresses the process and integrates the component proposals.
The proposals are:
Proposal #1: General Guidelines for Allocating Material between Print and
Electronic Media
Proposal #2: New Ideas for Contest-Specific and General Contesting Material
Proposal #3: New Ideas for On-Line Contest-Specific Data
The goal of these proposals is to serve as a vehicle for defining broad-based
understandings of what is and is not desirable, as well as to present new ideas
for coverage. All three are intended to undergo continual revision as new ideas
are encountered.
The guidelines and proposals presented in this document are not intended to
address questions such as: the proper balance between contest and non-contest
content in any particular medium; what constitutes an adequate number of pages;
or how much contest related content is appropriate in a general readership
publication such as QST.
Background
In 2001, faced with the prospects of operating deficits for the next several
years, the ARRL Board's Administration & Finance Committee requested staff
identify areas of potential cost reduction. ARRL management's response included
a plan for publishing QST with fewer pages of editorial content per issue. One
element of this plan would eliminate contest line scores from QST, to be
replaced by Web-based line scores. News of this proposal immediately sparked a
series of reactions from the contesting community expressing concern that
contesting's presence in QST would be diminished to a damaging degree.
The strength and breadth of feeling in the contest community regarding the
proposed changes was reflected in the 18 January 2002 joint statement and
request of U.S. contest clubs addressed to the ARRL Board of Directors and
signed by the presidents of twelve ARRL-affiliated contest clubs. Following
through on the contest club presidents? proposal, concerned contesters from
across the U.S. and Canada have joined forces to form the ad hoc ARRL Contest
Coverage Working Group. This group is engaging the issues in a pragmatic and
constructive manner ? assisting the ARRL staff to find ways of utilizing the
limited number of QST pages allocated to reporting contest results in concert
with alternative electronic media to obtain the best possible distribution of
contest coverage.
New Technology, New Opportunities
QST, NCJ, CQ and the recently demised CQ-Contest magazines have long been the
primary outlets for contest reporting in the U.S. Due to limited print space,
the reporting is of necessity rather restricted and has converged on an
abbreviated format of summary, limited breakdowns, top scores, line scores, and
a small amount of background information on or from individual competitors.
Web pages and email-distributed newsletters, which have extremely low
distribution costs, have become new outlets for this material. Because of their
low cost, constraints on the volume of material have essentially been removed.
This allows expansion of many elements of contest coverage beyond what any
print medium could afford. In addition, electronic distribution generally is
much more timely than print, enabling multiple editions and frequent updates of
material. It is expected that the current levels of quality and quality control
for published material would be met or exceeded, regardless of media.
Electronic media can also go beyond print media in bringing new dimensions of
contest coverage and information to the audience. With database technology,
contest logs can be sorted and filtered to meet any imaginable data analysis
need. Using audio and video technologies, we can now convey more than basic
reports on contesting; we can truly convey the experience of contesting.
HIGH-LEVEL CONCERNS
A number of important points emerged from the discussion, and these points cut
across all forms of contest coverage. They are summarized below:
Visibility
One of the most commonly raised issues regarding a shift of line scores from
QST to the Web is the reduced visibility of the contesting community to the
broader amateur community, especially to casual participants and potential
newcomers. It is strongly felt that the acknowledgement from publishing scores
and calls, no matter how small the score, serves to attract and encourage
entry-level contesters to the sport.
Contesters at all levels have always been honored to see their call signs and
performance in the ?bright lights? of QST. With great pride, they like to refer
other hams to the magazine and show the magazine to their non-ham friends and
family. There are widely held concerns over the loss of such high-level
visibility should scores be moved to the Web.
Opportunities for Visibility:
Include contest results announcements in the general news section of
www.arrl.org with links to full coverage
Use visual cues (highlighted links, graphics, or pop-up windows) to entice
?surfers? to visit contest coverage
Capture information about those who visit contest sections of the Website and
solicit them with opportunities to see more coverage
Use the log submission mechanics to obtain email addresses to which results may
be sent automatically.
Continue to provide contest report articles in the ?traditional? style,
including line scores, via an electronic medium.
Connectivity
Recognizing that various print and electronic media will continue to exist
separately, and that there will not be a complete duplication of content in the
various media, every effort must be made to provide many references among the
different coverage vehicles. This implies many links in the electronic media,
and many references to Web and email from the print media. For example, QST
coverage of contests should push readers towards Web-based coverage and
describe the expanded coverage options available.
Opportunities for Connectivity:
Every printed article should contain numerous and clear references to relevant
electronic media.
Many active links between electronic media presentations should be introduced
and maintained.
Cross-references from print media to electronic should not be limited to QST.
All ARRL publications should cross-reference relevant electronic media.
Ease of Use
As electronic outlets for contest coverage are increasingly employed, it is
important to ensure that those who wish to view the content have an easy and
attractive way to navigate amongst the many types and sources of information
that will be available. The approach to Website navigation and use of email
will be an important part of the electronic media design.
Suggestions for Ease of Use:
Focus design on accessing all aspects of each contest from a single place ? a
contest home page for each contest. Include access to rules, announcements,
current and historical results, discussions, Soapbox, etc ? all from a single
home page.
Avoid grouping of information by ?type?. For example, listing Soapbox links for
all contests is not particularly useful, since few if any individual contesters
will be interested in all contests.
Beyond the Written Word
The real secret to a successful shift from printed media to the Web is in
taking advantage of the capabilities that are unique to electronic media. If
use of the Web is restricted to duplicating the same kinds of material that
would previously have been presented in magazines ? then the transition to
electronic media will not be as swift and powerful. Implementations using
electronic media to recreate and convey the excitement of the contesting
experience will make it impossible for this new approach to fail.
Opportunities for Going Beyond the Written Word:
Provide data in downloadable format wherever possible
Add audio and video to the types of information available
Include audio and video interviews with the winners and other entrants with
something of interest to contribute
Allow viewers to add data or audio/video to the available material
Accessibility
Access to electronic media distributed via the Internet is good and continues
to improve. Even so, Internet access remains far from universal. In 2000, the
U.S. Census Bureau reported that 51% of U.S. households had a computer and
41.5% of households had access to the Internet. Neither percentage depended
strongly on age group for adults in the range of 18?65 years old. The rates of
computer ownership and Internet access both increase sharply with greater
household income and higher levels of education.
Access to the broadband Internet connections, necessary for realizing the full
potential of powerful multi-media technologies such as video, is rapidly
improving as well. The FCC reports that 7.0% of U.S. households were subscribed
to high-speed Internet services as of July 2001, up from 4.7% in January 2001,
and 1.6% in July 2000.
Focusing specifically on the amateur community, a recent survey commissioned by
the ARRL concluded that 89% of its members had Internet access although only
51% of the ARRL membership had registered as users of the ARRL members-only Web
site by October 2001. The number of electronic versus the number of paper logs
received by both the ARRL Contest Branch and the CQWW Committee suggest that
the contesting community already is highly ?wired.?
Suggestions for Accessibility:
Print copies of unabridged contest announcements including the detailed rules
and ?traditional? contest report articles including line scores should be
available for those members who lack Internet access.
Content produced for electronic distribution should also be published on
high-density, archival quality media, e.g. CD-ROM and DVD.
Thinking Globally
Contesters outside of the U.S. constitute a sizeable fraction of today's
contesting community. Anyone holding to the narrow view that ARRL sponsored
contests are solely parochial affairs of interest to an exclusively U.S. (or
North American) audience is in error. Non-U.S. stations submitted 50% of the
logs received for the 2000 ARRL 10-Meter Contest; 55% of the logs for the 2001
ARRL International DX Contest; and 70% of the logs for the 2001 IARU HF World
Championships. In 2000, DX stations accounted for one-third of the 16,000
contest logs processed by the ARRL Contest Branch and one-third of the scores
printed in QST.
Clearly, active contesters exist in substantial numbers around the world yet
they represent a virtually untapped market distinct from the ARRL?s traditional
membership base. Like their U.S. counterparts, many international contesters
are enthusiastic and excited about the prospects for expanded and enhanced
contest coverage being discussed. And they share an interest in viewing such
coverage.
Historically, the costs of reaching a worldwide market using print have been
prohibitive, keeping demand to an absolute minimum. NCJ is not marketed outside
USA/Canada yet much of its content is relevant to contesters worldwide. The
very low distribution costs of electronic media now permit existing content and
expanded coverage to efficiently reach a global audience.
Suggestions for Connecting with A Global Audience:
The ARRL offer non-U.S. contesters access to the expanded and enhanced contest
coverage on the ARRL Web site; possibly in exchange for payment of an
appropriate fee.
Use e-mail addresses harvested from log submittals for the targeted marketing
of expanded contest coverage, NCJ, membership, etc.
Feature contests sponsored by sister IARU societies in reciprocity for similar
exposure given to ARRL contests.
Comb international sources for content. Acquire English language rights to the
best contest related content being produced worldwide.
Cultivate international distribution channels and develop foreign language
outlets for ARRL contest coverage.
Line Scores
At present, line scores are the largest individual component of contest
coverage, occupying half the pages of contest reports in QST. Faced with
falling page counts and shrinking publication budgets but growing
participation, we are forced to confront a nasty dilemma. Either continued
publication of line scores displaces all other aspects of contest coverage from
the pages of QST with contest reports being reduced to a listing of scores and
call signs. Or the contest related content that is best suited for distribution
to a broad audience remains in QST with line scores relocated to the Web.
The guidelines in Proposal #1 are intended to be used as an aide when
considering the optimal utilization of scarce resources. Several types of
content are judged by the Working Group as being better suited than line scores
for occupying a limited number of QST pages (see Table 1 in Proposal #1). If
the ARRL Board of Directors makes the determination to cut deeply into the
number of QST pages available for reporting contest results, an application of
these guidelines would lead
one to conclude that the least undesirable alternative is relocating line
scores to the Web. By using linkages and references, readership can be guided
to the electronic media where line scores would be published in full and
possibly even in expanded form, as the 2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes results
show.
PROPOSAL #1 ? Allocation of Coverage to Print and Electronic Media
Lead Author ? Ward Silver, NØAX
Contributing Authors ? Michael Keane, K1MK and Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Scope
This proposal addresses the general question of how to allocate the relative
proportions of contest coverage between print and electronic media. No
distinction is made between the different forms of either media (i.e. ?
magazine vs. newsletter or Web page vs. email). No attempt is made to specify
the details of coverage content or to rank the most valuable, most desirable or
most enjoyable content.
Purpose
The purpose is to develop a set of general guidelines to provide guidance to
publishers for developing and distributing contest coverage material. Also, it
may serve to encourage discussion about the development of new types and forms
of material.
Background
Currently, print media is the primary form for distributing contest information
and results to the amateur radio community. Electronic media, however, is
rapidly becoming an accepted norm for distributing this type of information due
to its cost advantages, timeliness and increasing public acceptance. The
question has become not if, but when and how much contest information should be
made available electronically.
In this rapidly changing environment, it is important that publishers and
readers have a good sense of each other?s needs. This document attempts to
provide information on the general types of contest coverage and the
suitability of distributing each type of content in print or electronic form.
Print media is discussed as either General or Specialty. General refers to
media dealing with the full spectrum of ham radio, such as QST. Specialty
refers to publications aimed at contesters such as NCJ.
Electronic media is discussed as either Push or Pull. Push refers to actively
distributed formats, in which information is delivered to the consumer at the
initiative of the publisher ? the publisher is the active party. Examples of
push media include newsletters (email or print), bulletins and broadcasts.
Pull refers to passive sources of information, in which information is accessed
or retrieved from the publisher at the initiative of the consumer ? the reader
is the active party. Examples of pull media include web pages, bulletin boards,
ftp sites, books, CD-ROMs and libraries.
Coverage
Contest announcements and results should be available in printed and digital
media. An announcement is any advance notice that provides information as the
time, rules, awards, etc., about a specific contest. The results include
information describing any aspect of the contest that is distributed after the
contest.
Table 1 shows the relative suitability of using each of these media to
distribute specific announcement and results content; i.e. ? Is the medium the
one best suited to distribute this type of information to the target audience?
The suitability of each content type is rated as high, limited or low. The
ratings attempt to account for all aspects of the medium including cost,
quality, readership, archival, timeliness, etc. The ratings are defined as
follows:
High ? the medium is well suited to both the information and the
target audience.
Limited ? the medium is not the best method for distribution of the
information to the target audience.
Low ? the medium is poorly suited to the information, the target
audience or both; distribution of the information via this medium may be
inefficient, untimely or costly
Table 1 ? General Allocation Guidelines
OMITTED DUE TO FORMATTING PROBLEMS
PROPOSAL #2 ? New Ideas for Contest-Specific and General Contesting Material
Lead Author ? Brian D. Smith W9IND
Contributing Authors ?Ward Silver NØAX, Gary Breed K9AY
Scope
This proposal discusses existing contest print coverage. New ideas for coverage
are presented, both for print and electronic media. Details of implementation
are not addressed, neither is the allocation of coverage between types of
media.
Purpose
The purpose of this proposal is to:
Assess and critique current contest coverage in the print media.
Suggest how to improve coverage in both print and electronic media.
Contribute new ideas for coverage in multiple media.
Background
The ARRL Staff responsible for publishing a QST having fewer pages per issue
has proposed to allocate the limited resources available for reporting contest
results in ways that are appropriate for a general-readership, monthly
magazine. This, they believe, would save money and create more space for
articles of greater general interest.
The following proposal deals mainly with the latter objective. As stated in
Point 5 of the ?Joint Statement and Request of U.S. Contest Clubs on the
Proposal to Eliminate Detailed Contest Results from QST,? the coalition of
ARRL-affiliated contest clubs intends to assist QST in ?making such coverage
more attractive and interesting to a much wider audience than has been the case
to date.?
In striving to attain this goal, the lead author has drawn from about a quarter
century of professional journalism experience as a magazine editor, newspaper
reporter and freelance writer. The approach of this proposal is neither complex
nor radical; it simply suggests journalistic techniques and angles
traditionally used in the creation of newspaper and magazine feature stories,
newswriting and sportswriting. These approaches are not unknown to QST, but
perhaps by utilizing them more often, the magazine would enhance its contest
coverage.
Critique of Existing Coverage
QST?s current coverage includes the calls and scores of every entrant, and in
this respect, its articles could not be more thorough for anyone seeking such
information. The lead-in text that precedes the contest results is often
concise, matter-of-fact and esoteric, and perhaps more interesting to hard-core
contesters than the average ham. As long as this is true, QST may find it
difficult to justify devoting so much space to contest coverage.
Possible Alternatives
QST could revamp the format of the coverage so that (1) the articles are more
interesting to non-contesters and (2) hams with little contesting experience
are encouraged to get in the game.
General Interest Coverage
One alternative is to make the coverage more like a ?game story? found on a
sports page. For instance, rather than covering a contest from the standpoint
of final scores (?Club ABC got 7.4 million points in the multi-multi category
to edge Club XYZ, which scored 7.2 million?) ? as is typically done in QST ?
the magazine could approach it from a ?you are there? angle: ?Club ABC?s
contest effort almost ended before it began. Only three hours before the start
of the ARRL DX Contest, a severe thunderstorm packing 70 mph winds sent their
tallest antenna tumbling and the entire club scrambling. But a nifty bit of
improvisation put the station back on the air only 12 minutes before midnight
in Greenwich ?,? etc. Stories like these would have universal appeal,
regardless of whether the average reader cared deeply about contesting.
How to round up such information? The contest page on the ARRL Web site already
has a Soapbox, in which contesters can post their impressions, complaints,
reminiscences, anecdotes, etc., regarding each contest. All that?s needed is to
set up a similar Web site and inform contestants that QST is looking for any
good stories from the contest. Or the magazine could invite them to e-mail this
information. The author of the story could then scan the contributed copy for
the best tales. Many quotes could be lifted directly from the posts or e-mails,
and further information could be gathered via follow-up e-mail, landline and/or
even an on-air sked.
New Approaches
Looking more closely at newspaper sports sections, we find further inspiration
and possibilities. We see that not everything on every page is a game story:
There are also feature stories, profiles, personal columns and ?pre-games?
(stories previewing important games and events ? for instance, ?The Los Angeles
Lakers may face their toughest challenge of the year when the Dallas Mavericks
come to town Friday ??). The same elements and techniques that sustain sports
pages across America could be employed in contesting coverage.
Feature stories, a broad category, might include topics such as ?How our club
prepares for a multi-multi event? ? everything from how to recruit and schedule
operators to what food and drink to keep in the fridge. There could be
discussions of contesting tips and techniques: ?What to do when a solar flare
zaps the HF bands in the middle of a contest.?
Profiles could run the gamut ? from the 88-year-old guy who organized the first
ARRL Whatever Contest to the club that?s won the last 10 CQWW multi-multi
titles.
Personal columns could also include a broad range of topics, from serious to
humorous (?WPX: For once in my life, I?m as rare as Mongolia? by WY9A ? or ?How
contesting enabled me to finally achieve DXCC?).
?Pre-games? would supplement the traditional pre-contest coverage, which
typically consists of a long list of rules and regulation. Such information is
valuable to veteran contesters, but complicated and potentially off-putting to
beginners. Naturally, no one wants to embarrass himself on the air, so many
hams who might enjoy contesting may instead decide to forgo the contest rather
than risk ridicule.
Attracting Newcomers
Contesters are often viewed by non-contesters as insular and cliquish (not to
mention pushy). Undoubtedly, some contesters are less than courteous in the
heat of the battle. But as every contester knows, great scores depend on great
participation. We need the newcomers ? as many as we can get. So how to make
them feel welcome?
QST and several Web sites publish information on upcoming contests, but the
rules may seem overly complex to the uninitiated. A better alternative might
involve creating what?s known in the journalism business as a sidebar. USA
Today is fond of sidebars ? read a story about Barry Bonds? current home run
total and you might also see a sidebar about ?Most home runs in April ?
all-time bests,? etc. Read any newspaper travel story and you?ll often find a
sidebar that summarizes the key information: ?Destination: Louisville,
Kentucky. Major tourist attractions: Located on the Ohio River, home of
Churchill Downs ?? etc.
It is this user-friendly format ? the sidebar, which would accompany the
?pre-game? write-up ? that would work best in attracting newcomers to
contesting. Instead of having to wade through a plethora of technical data, a
rookie contester could simply glance at the sidebar and learn instantly what
the contest was about and how to participate in it, even if he or she had only
a couple of hours to do so.
Here?s how it might work (?Announced DXpeditions? might lure non-contesting
DXers who are chasing DXCC and other awards):
Contest: ARRL International DX Contest
How to participate: Get on any of the HF bands except the WARC bands. If you?re
in the United States or Canada, you can?t work any station in either country ?
look for DX stations only. For DX stations, the same applies in reverse.
What to say: Give a signal report and your state (for Americans), province (for
Canadians) or power in watts (DX stations).
Announced DXpeditions: HKØHAM, San Andes Island, CT3QRP, Madeira Islands, etc.
Quirks: Split operation on 40 because DX stations are assigned to different
frequencies, etc.
Best reason to participate: You can attain DXCC in one weekend.
Relative challenge: Easy for all. (Note: An EME contest would obviously get a
different answer.)
Web links: http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2002/intldx.html
Records: Yet another way to increase interest in contesting is to stoke hams?
competitive fires. How to do that? Create a Web site that provides easy access
to every record in every major contest. A good reference for records would list
more than the ?top? result in a particular category. By publishing many
results near the top (e.g., top 10, or all of the past results within 10% of
the current high spot), competitors can try to sneak into the listing even
though conditions might not permit them to break an all-time record. An
excellent reference would contain links to more material: the actual log,
technical detail about the station which made the record, operator background,
etc.
This will give potential contest entrants a great many targets to shoot at ?
and might very well convince a casual contester to go at it for the full 48
hours. A ham who knows only the single-op, all-band record might say, ?Oh well,
no way am I going to beat that. So I?ll just do a few hours here and there.?
But what if W8HAM discovered that the CQWW 8-land single-op assisted record for
10 meters was tantalizingly low? That puts a different spin on things, doesn?t
it?
New Ideas for Coverage
Story Ideas: The final part of our proposal offers story ideas that (hopefully)
will interest a general audience. The following is a list of 20 potential
stories or sidebars that could be included with contest coverage. There are
obviously many other possibilities.
Trend stories ? ?20 percent of all contesting records were broken in the year
2000,? etc. A snapshot of where contesting is going.
A feature story about the op who holds more contest records than anyone alive.
The superstations: A guide to the greatest contest stations in America/the
world. Perhaps a sidebar on the tallest ham antennas in existence (used in
contesting).
The best contesting conditions in history. (Consider sunspots, weather, rare DX
stations competing, etc.) A nostalgia piece loaded with anecdotes about how
sweet it was.
You are there: A weekend with a championship contest team, from planning to
take-down.
The world?s best contest location(s). (Not stations ? this story would give
scientific reasons for why, say, a place next to salt water is better than a
spot in the middle of Midwest farm country. Or why a QTH on the East Coast is
ideal for working Europe on several bands (or whatever).
Wild weather. Hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards and other examples of nature?s
wrath ? and how their inopportune appearances ruined some major contests or
contesting efforts.
Profile of a ham who contests only with homebrew equipment. Or antique
equipment.
How to work your way up to the big leagues. What separates a good contester
from a rookie? How do you work several stations a minute? What are the most
common mistakes a newcomer makes?
How to organize a multi-multi effort. Everything from scheduling to feeding the
troops.
How to secure a great contesting QTH. A guide to the best locations, and
perhaps a list of specific sites that rent to hams and are already equipped
with antennas.
Big guns with little signals. A feature story about the best QRP contesters,
and what they do right.
The case for contesters. Why shouldn?t America?s biggest and best stations form
the backbone of the nation?s civil defense/emergency response efforts?
Point/counterpoint: Examining the age-old issue of contest QRM versus ?it?s
only one weekend?/?why don?t you ragchew on the WARC bands??
On a similar note, a story about the fact that some contesters have been cited
by the FCC for deliberate interference during a contest. Is this truly fair,
given the fact that some have said they couldn?t even hear the stations they
were supposedly QRMing?
A brief history of contesting. How did it all start?
Back when. Interviews with the oldest living contesters, and what contesting
was like in their day.
The lean years. How can you enjoy contesting when the sunspot count is at or
near zero? What?s the best strategy?
Which band is best? A guide to choosing the best band for a single-band
contesting effort. How do the sunspot count, the A index, the weather, etc.,
help determine the answer?
Overcomers. Not necessarily the best contesters, just the most inspiring ones,
such as a ham who suffered a stroke but nevertheless fires up the rig as part
of his therapy, etc.
Multimedia - Audio and Video
Electronic media creates entirely new opportunities for contest coverage. Not
only can traditional presentations be distributed at vastly lower expense and
with higher volume, they can include new types of information as well. Audio
and video recordings, as well as interactive graphics, can bring completely new
dimensions to contest coverage. The ARRL is already providing audio recordings
of QSOs in association with other Web coverage, for example.
Contest coverage would greatly benefit from the following types of multimedia
presentations:
Audio recordings of contest QSOs
Audio/video recordings of elements associated with the contest (pre-, during,
and post-contest)
Photo ?stills? and slide shows
Interviews with the experts
Live and still graphics generated by the ARRL and by entrants
Because the amount of effort to create this type of information is substantial,
it is strongly recommended that the ARRL provide a hosting facility for contest
entrants to contribute or post their own information as is currently done with
Soapbox. The size and duration of the postings could be limited to manage the
amount of data space required. The issue of reviewing each post for appropriate
content would also have to be addressed.
Because these new coverage elements are quite rich in content, they are also
likely to generate discussion and comment by the viewers. In order to focus the
discussion, it would be useful to create a posting service on the contest Web
site where individual comments could be posted for public comment.
Viewers will have widely divergent access bandwidths ranging from 28.8 kbps
dial-ups to broadband. If possible, server technology capable of sensing link
capability (or allowing the user to specify the link characteristics) should be
used for distribution of the larger elements. An alternative would be to
provide large and small versions of elements, where practical.
PROPOSAL #3 ? On-Line Distribution of Contest Data
Lead Author ? Ward Silver, NØAX
Contributing Authors ? Michael Keane, K1MK and Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
Scope
This proposal describes the types of contest data that should be made publicly
available on-line. Detailed data formats are not covered.
Purpose
This document is a summary of ideas and suggestions contributed by individuals
in the contesting community. It is hoped it will serve to stimulate discussion
and produce more ideas.
Background
Until very recently, the only type of contest data available to contestants was
printed and PDF documents that tabulated the scores of class leaders, gave
selected entrant breakdowns, and provided line scores of all entrants. Contest
data in a digital form suitable for doing detailed post-contest analysis has
not been available. With the advent of the Web it is has become technically
easy and cost-effective to make contest data available to everyone in a format
suitable for analysis. The excellent 2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes reportage
clearly points the way to making improved data sets available.
We expect that detailed post-contest analysis will assist individuals and the
contesting community as a whole in gaining a deeper understanding and
appreciation of what transpires during a contest. Ideally, making data
available will spur novel ideas that lead to creative improvements.
Machine-Readable Results
Quantitative contest results that are normally presented in the printed or PDF
documents, such as line scores, leader boxes, records, etc., should also be
made available as machine-readable tables of data. In order to perform accurate
and detailed contest analysis the following data is of particular interest to
the contesting community:
The output of the log checking process for any entry
Supplementary details about a contestant?s equipment and precise geographic
location (e.g. Maidenhead grid locator or latitude-longitude coordinates)
Data that is provided should be in common formats suitable for importing into
standard logging programs, databases and spreadsheet packages. Examples of such
formats would be Cabrillo format for log data and CSV or tab delimited format
for tabular.
The following sections list the individual data elements recommended to be
present in each type of data.
Log Data
Summary (Header)
Station and operator call signs
Entry Class
Geographical Region
Other contest-specific grouping criteria
QSO data
Time and Date
Band
Mode
Exchange (Sent & Received)
Log checking output
TBD
Entry Supplemental Data
Station and operator call signs
Entry Class
Geographical Region
Equipment Summary
Other contest-specific grouping criteria
We note that the techniques and tools for providing on-line resources are
evolving rapidly. On-line resources are also likely to create a demand for new
types of data, as well. These recommendations are only a start.
Third-Party Analysis
Contest analysis provided by individual entrants should be accompanied by
supporting data tables, graphic objects, and program descriptions or ideally,
the programs themselves. The sponsor may also create novel analysis metrics
that are made available electronically via a database.
Examples of Novel Metrics:
Evaluation of geographical impact on performance
Propagation analysis based on geographical data
Accuracy metrics and comparisons
Operator ranking and rating systems
Comparative performance-over-time (horse races)
Open Access to Results & Data
Currently some contest content, e.g. expanded coverage for the 2001 ARRL
November Sweepstakes, is available only on the members-only section of the ARRL
Web site. While other content, e.g. PDF versions of the contest report articles
from QST, is placed initially on the members-only section for a proprietary use
period prior to its publication in QST. Open access is granted after the
article appears in QST and the PDF files are moved to the general user section
of the Web site.
It is appropriate for the bulk of enhanced and expanded contest coverage,
including narrative articles, leader boxes, contest analysis, video, audio,
etc., to remain on the members-only section of the ARRL Web site. Some content
may be released for general consumption after an appropriate proprietary period
at the ARRL?s discretion.
However, it is strongly recommended that open access, or at least access for
all contest participants, to some minimum set of data be provided. And that
access is granted to these data as soon as they become available.
Suggested Components for An Open Access Data Set:
Log data
Line scores in machine-readable form
Publication of Log Data
The DX community frowns upon providing public access to log data that includes
full QSO details. Such access is seen as enabling a form of ?data mining? that
would allow an unscrupulous station to claim credit for a log entry that in
truth represents a busted QSO.
Suggestions for Insuring Integrity:
Release log data only to individuals who submit a log themselves
Prohibit the further redistribution of log data by recipient
Do not release log data until log checking process is completed.
Investigate ways for ARRL Contest Branch to share log checking results with the
DXCC Program and Logbook of the World project.
Privacy Issues
As important as what data should be available is insuring that sensitive
personal information is not released. While certain personal information such
as a licensee?s name and mailing address is currently included in the log that
an entrant submits, this information is already a matter of public record and
readily available from multiple sources. Other, potentially more sensitive,
personal information about the entrant is not included in the log at present
and it is our recommendation that this should continue to be the case.
Suggestion to Safeguard Privacy:
Personal data that is not readily available from a public source should not be
published or released.
Preserving Participation
The mandatory release of log data as a condition of entry may cause certain
contesters either to forgo participating in a contest or, if they do
participate, to not submit a log.
Suggestions for Preserving Participation:
Include a mechanism in the log submittal process so that each entrant must
affirmatively authorize the publication and release of their log data.
Allow individuals to ?opt out? of sharing their log data without being
penalized.
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sat Jul 27 15:03:52 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
In-Reply-To: <t83ad26ssmyfq07.270720020826@designet-jsi>
Message-ID: <000301c23576$70f8c5c0$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
Sri if some of this has been said already, but there has been so much
talk on this subject that I just can't read it all.
My feelings are this:
Leave the 30 days to get logs in for now, but in the mean time instead
of just listing logs received, publish the claimed scores as they
arrive. The log rx robot should be able to handle this, after it
accepts a log just extract the claimed score, entry class, and club and
sort it into a web page listing. This will make the 3830 list
redundant, I hate sending the log one place, and the summary to 2
others(3830 and yccc's internal score list).
As logs get checked just update the list from above with the verified
results and resort. Probably starting with the biggest claimed logs and
working down so the most likely winners see their final standing first.
This would be similar to knowing the winner of a race before everyone
has even finished.
I would like to see more use of real time reporting like w1ve has done
for Writelog at http://www.contestlogs.com/live/default2.asp. I think
the wrtc demo of real time reporting has shown that there is some
interest in this concept. This will take some work on the part of
contesting loggers to send periodic updates in a specific format to a
server, but anyone that has telnet access to the web should be able to
do this. i.e. for something like dos CT I could make my wintelnetx
program grab a line score broadcast on the ct network and send it to the
w1ve server, all k1ea would have to do is add a periodic broadcast to
his network that has the right data in it. With a bit more work I could
probably make something to duplicate the ct log as it is sent on the
network and rescore myself to get the data. Other loggers would
probably be not much harder.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim Idelson
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 12:27
> To: CQ-Contest Post
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
>
> WN3VAW said:
>
> >I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes
in a
> positive way to encourage more potential contesters.<
>
> Thank heaven somebody finally said something a little bit strategic!
This
> is
> the first hint of forward thinking that I've heard in this entire
> conversation.
> Talking about a 15 day change in the results schedule seems to be an
empty
> effort when the implications of this change are much more
far-reaching.
>
> Over the past six months, about thirty-five of us got together and
> contributed
> to a major proposal about ARRL contest coverage which was submitted to
the
> ARRL
> BoD just before their meeting. I didn't expect to get an official
reaction
> from
> HQ right away, but I did expect to hear some reaction and conversation
> about
> the proposal here on the reflector.
>
> Maybe it was too much trouble to click on one of the links in my
previous
> message:
> PDF version:
> http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
> or
> HTML version:
> http://www.designet.com/k1ir/ContestCoverageProposal_071702.htm
>
> So, I'll attach it here. Unfortunately, the formatting of the charts
won't
> make
> it through the reflector, so you'll have to look at one of the
original
> documents if you are interested in those.
>
> Honestly, I am quite disappointed. I was really hoping that you'd take
a
> look
> at the hard work done by your peers and engage the subject fully.
>
> Here are a few points and questions to get you thinking:
> 1. The group concluded that contest coverage in QST is really lacking,
and
> that
> the pages remaining after line scores are removed should be used much
more
> creatively. Ideas have been presented. Which do you like/hate?
> 2. While the web is now being used to effectively present contest
results,
> there is still a need for a more permanent record and for hardcopy.
How do
> we
> do both?
> 3. The web is much more appropriate for conveying the contesting
> "experience."
> We can do it with sound, graphics and video. It can be stored. It can
be
> live.
> How can we get this done?
>
> Jim Idelson K1IR
> email k1ir@designet.com
> web http://www.designet.com/k1ir
>
> *********** Forwarded Proposal ***********
>
> Contest Coverage Working Group
> Guidelines and Proposals
> 2 July 2002
>
> INTRODUCTION
> Lead Author ? Jim Idelson, K1IR
>
> Approach
>
> The Working Group has developed three interrelated proposals and this
> overview
> document, which addresses the process and integrates the component
> proposals.
> The proposals are:
> Proposal #1: General Guidelines for Allocating Material between
Print
> and
> Electronic Media
> Proposal #2: New Ideas for Contest-Specific and General Contesting
> Material
> Proposal #3: New Ideas for On-Line Contest-Specific Data
>
> The goal of these proposals is to serve as a vehicle for defining
broad-
> based
> understandings of what is and is not desirable, as well as to present
new
> ideas
> for coverage. All three are intended to undergo continual revision as
new
> ideas
> are encountered.
> The guidelines and proposals presented in this document are not
intended
> to
> address questions such as: the proper balance between contest and non-
> contest
> content in any particular medium; what constitutes an adequate number
of
> pages;
> or how much contest related content is appropriate in a general
readership
> publication such as QST.
>
> Background
>
> In 2001, faced with the prospects of operating deficits for the next
> several
> years, the ARRL Board's Administration & Finance Committee requested
staff
> identify areas of potential cost reduction. ARRL management's response
> included
> a plan for publishing QST with fewer pages of editorial content per
issue.
> One
> element of this plan would eliminate contest line scores from QST, to
be
> replaced by Web-based line scores. News of this proposal immediately
> sparked a
> series of reactions from the contesting community expressing concern
that
> contesting's presence in QST would be diminished to a damaging degree.
> The strength and breadth of feeling in the contest community regarding
the
> proposed changes was reflected in the 18 January 2002 joint statement
and
> request of U.S. contest clubs addressed to the ARRL Board of Directors
and
> signed by the presidents of twelve ARRL-affiliated contest clubs.
> Following
> through on the contest club presidents? proposal, concerned contesters
> from
> across the U.S. and Canada have joined forces to form the ad hoc ARRL
> Contest
> Coverage Working Group. This group is engaging the issues in a
pragmatic
> and
> constructive manner ? assisting the ARRL staff to find ways of
utilizing
> the
> limited number of QST pages allocated to reporting contest results in
> concert
> with alternative electronic media to obtain the best possible
distribution
> of
> contest coverage.
>
> New Technology, New Opportunities
>
> QST, NCJ, CQ and the recently demised CQ-Contest magazines have long
been
> the
> primary outlets for contest reporting in the U.S. Due to limited print
> space,
> the reporting is of necessity rather restricted and has converged on
an
> abbreviated format of summary, limited breakdowns, top scores, line
> scores, and
> a small amount of background information on or from individual
> competitors.
>
> Web pages and email-distributed newsletters, which have extremely low
> distribution costs, have become new outlets for this material. Because
of
> their
> low cost, constraints on the volume of material have essentially been
> removed.
> This allows expansion of many elements of contest coverage beyond what
any
> print medium could afford. In addition, electronic distribution
generally
> is
> much more timely than print, enabling multiple editions and frequent
> updates of
> material. It is expected that the current levels of quality and
quality
> control
> for published material would be met or exceeded, regardless of media.
>
> Electronic media can also go beyond print media in bringing new
dimensions
> of
> contest coverage and information to the audience. With database
> technology,
> contest logs can be sorted and filtered to meet any imaginable data
> analysis
> need. Using audio and video technologies, we can now convey more than
> basic
> reports on contesting; we can truly convey the experience of
contesting.
>
> HIGH-LEVEL CONCERNS
>
> A number of important points emerged from the discussion, and these
points
> cut
> across all forms of contest coverage. They are summarized below:
>
> Visibility
>
> One of the most commonly raised issues regarding a shift of line
scores
> from
> QST to the Web is the reduced visibility of the contesting community
to
> the
> broader amateur community, especially to casual participants and
potential
> newcomers. It is strongly felt that the acknowledgement from
publishing
> scores
> and calls, no matter how small the score, serves to attract and
encourage
> entry-level contesters to the sport.
>
> Contesters at all levels have always been honored to see their call
signs
> and
> performance in the ?bright lights? of QST. With great pride, they like
to
> refer
> other hams to the magazine and show the magazine to their non-ham
friends
> and
> family. There are widely held concerns over the loss of such
high-level
> visibility should scores be moved to the Web.
>
> Opportunities for Visibility:
>
> Include contest results announcements in the general news section of
> www.arrl.org with links to full coverage
> Use visual cues (highlighted links, graphics, or pop-up windows) to
entice
> ?surfers? to visit contest coverage
> Capture information about those who visit contest sections of the
Website
> and
> solicit them with opportunities to see more coverage
> Use the log submission mechanics to obtain email addresses to which
> results may
> be sent automatically.
> Continue to provide contest report articles in the ?traditional?
style,
> including line scores, via an electronic medium.
>
> Connectivity
>
> Recognizing that various print and electronic media will continue to
exist
> separately, and that there will not be a complete duplication of
content
> in the
> various media, every effort must be made to provide many references
among
> the
> different coverage vehicles. This implies many links in the electronic
> media,
> and many references to Web and email from the print media. For
example,
> QST
> coverage of contests should push readers towards Web-based coverage
and
> describe the expanded coverage options available.
>
> Opportunities for Connectivity:
> Every printed article should contain numerous and clear references to
> relevant
> electronic media.
> Many active links between electronic media presentations should be
> introduced
> and maintained.
> Cross-references from print media to electronic should not be limited
to
> QST.
> All ARRL publications should cross-reference relevant electronic
media.
>
> Ease of Use
>
> As electronic outlets for contest coverage are increasingly employed,
it
> is
> important to ensure that those who wish to view the content have an
easy
> and
> attractive way to navigate amongst the many types and sources of
> information
> that will be available. The approach to Website navigation and use of
> email
> will be an important part of the electronic media design.
>
> Suggestions for Ease of Use:
> Focus design on accessing all aspects of each contest from a single
place
> ? a
> contest home page for each contest. Include access to rules,
> announcements,
> current and historical results, discussions, Soapbox, etc ? all from a
> single
> home page.
> Avoid grouping of information by ?type?. For example, listing Soapbox
> links for
> all contests is not particularly useful, since few if any individual
> contesters
> will be interested in all contests.
>
> Beyond the Written Word
>
> The real secret to a successful shift from printed media to the Web is
in
> taking advantage of the capabilities that are unique to electronic
media.
> If
> use of the Web is restricted to duplicating the same kinds of material
> that
> would previously have been presented in magazines ? then the
transition to
> electronic media will not be as swift and powerful. Implementations
using
> electronic media to recreate and convey the excitement of the
contesting
> experience will make it impossible for this new approach to fail.
>
> Opportunities for Going Beyond the Written Word:
> Provide data in downloadable format wherever possible
> Add audio and video to the types of information available
> Include audio and video interviews with the winners and other entrants
> with
> something of interest to contribute
> Allow viewers to add data or audio/video to the available material
>
> Accessibility
>
> Access to electronic media distributed via the Internet is good and
> continues
> to improve. Even so, Internet access remains far from universal. In
2000,
> the
> U.S. Census Bureau reported that 51% of U.S. households had a computer
and
> 41.5% of households had access to the Internet. Neither percentage
> depended
> strongly on age group for adults in the range of 18?65 years old. The
> rates of
> computer ownership and Internet access both increase sharply with
greater
> household income and higher levels of education.
>
> Access to the broadband Internet connections, necessary for realizing
the
> full
> potential of powerful multi-media technologies such as video, is
rapidly
> improving as well. The FCC reports that 7.0% of U.S. households were
> subscribed
> to high-speed Internet services as of July 2001, up from 4.7% in
January
> 2001,
> and 1.6% in July 2000.
>
> Focusing specifically on the amateur community, a recent survey
> commissioned by
> the ARRL concluded that 89% of its members had Internet access
although
> only
> 51% of the ARRL membership had registered as users of the ARRL
members-
> only Web
> site by October 2001. The number of electronic versus the number of
paper
> logs
> received by both the ARRL Contest Branch and the CQWW Committee
suggest
> that
> the contesting community already is highly ?wired.?
>
> Suggestions for Accessibility:
> Print copies of unabridged contest announcements including the
detailed
> rules
> and ?traditional? contest report articles including line scores should
be
> available for those members who lack Internet access.
> Content produced for electronic distribution should also be published
on
> high-density, archival quality media, e.g. CD-ROM and DVD.
>
> Thinking Globally
>
> Contesters outside of the U.S. constitute a sizeable fraction of
today's
> contesting community. Anyone holding to the narrow view that ARRL
> sponsored
> contests are solely parochial affairs of interest to an exclusively
U.S.
> (or
> North American) audience is in error. Non-U.S. stations submitted 50%
of
> the
> logs received for the 2000 ARRL 10-Meter Contest; 55% of the logs for
the
> 2001
> ARRL International DX Contest; and 70% of the logs for the 2001 IARU
HF
> World
> Championships. In 2000, DX stations accounted for one-third of the
16,000
> contest logs processed by the ARRL Contest Branch and one-third of the
> scores
> printed in QST.
> Clearly, active contesters exist in substantial numbers around the
world
> yet
> they represent a virtually untapped market distinct from the ARRL?s
> traditional
> membership base. Like their U.S. counterparts, many international
> contesters
> are enthusiastic and excited about the prospects for expanded and
enhanced
> contest coverage being discussed. And they share an interest in
viewing
> such
> coverage.
>
> Historically, the costs of reaching a worldwide market using print
have
> been
> prohibitive, keeping demand to an absolute minimum. NCJ is not
marketed
> outside
> USA/Canada yet much of its content is relevant to contesters
worldwide.
> The
> very low distribution costs of electronic media now permit existing
> content and
> expanded coverage to efficiently reach a global audience.
>
> Suggestions for Connecting with A Global Audience:
> The ARRL offer non-U.S. contesters access to the expanded and enhanced
> contest
> coverage on the ARRL Web site; possibly in exchange for payment of an
> appropriate fee.
> Use e-mail addresses harvested from log submittals for the targeted
> marketing
> of expanded contest coverage, NCJ, membership, etc.
> Feature contests sponsored by sister IARU societies in reciprocity for
> similar
> exposure given to ARRL contests.
> Comb international sources for content. Acquire English language
rights to
> the
> best contest related content being produced worldwide.
> Cultivate international distribution channels and develop foreign
language
> outlets for ARRL contest coverage.
>
> Line Scores
>
> At present, line scores are the largest individual component of
contest
> coverage, occupying half the pages of contest reports in QST. Faced
with
> falling page counts and shrinking publication budgets but growing
> participation, we are forced to confront a nasty dilemma. Either
continued
> publication of line scores displaces all other aspects of contest
coverage
> from
> the pages of QST with contest reports being reduced to a listing of
scores
> and
> call signs. Or the contest related content that is best suited for
> distribution
> to a broad audience remains in QST with line scores relocated to the
Web.
>
> The guidelines in Proposal #1 are intended to be used as an aide when
> considering the optimal utilization of scarce resources. Several types
of
> content are judged by the Working Group as being better suited than
line
> scores
> for occupying a limited number of QST pages (see Table 1 in Proposal
#1).
> If
> the ARRL Board of Directors makes the determination to cut deeply into
the
> number of QST pages available for reporting contest results, an
> application of
> these guidelines would lead
> one to conclude that the least undesirable alternative is relocating
line
> scores to the Web. By using linkages and references, readership can be
> guided
> to the electronic media where line scores would be published in full
and
> possibly even in expanded form, as the 2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes
> results
> show.
>
> PROPOSAL #1 ? Allocation of Coverage to Print and Electronic Media
> Lead Author ? Ward Silver, N?AX
> Contributing Authors ? Michael Keane, K1MK and Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
>
> Scope
>
> This proposal addresses the general question of how to allocate the
> relative
> proportions of contest coverage between print and electronic media. No
> distinction is made between the different forms of either media (i.e.
?
> magazine vs. newsletter or Web page vs. email). No attempt is made to
> specify
> the details of coverage content or to rank the most valuable, most
> desirable or
> most enjoyable content.
>
> Purpose
>
> The purpose is to develop a set of general guidelines to provide
guidance
> to
> publishers for developing and distributing contest coverage material.
> Also, it
> may serve to encourage discussion about the development of new types
and
> forms
> of material.
>
> Background
>
> Currently, print media is the primary form for distributing contest
> information
> and results to the amateur radio community. Electronic media, however,
is
> rapidly becoming an accepted norm for distributing this type of
> information due
> to its cost advantages, timeliness and increasing public acceptance.
The
> question has become not if, but when and how much contest information
> should be
> made available electronically.
>
> In this rapidly changing environment, it is important that publishers
and
> readers have a good sense of each other?s needs. This document
attempts to
> provide information on the general types of contest coverage and the
> suitability of distributing each type of content in print or
electronic
> form.
> Print media is discussed as either General or Specialty. General
refers to
> media dealing with the full spectrum of ham radio, such as QST.
Specialty
> refers to publications aimed at contesters such as NCJ.
>
> Electronic media is discussed as either Push or Pull. Push refers to
> actively
> distributed formats, in which information is delivered to the consumer
at
> the
> initiative of the publisher ? the publisher is the active party.
Examples
> of
> push media include newsletters (email or print), bulletins and
broadcasts.
> Pull refers to passive sources of information, in which information is
> accessed
> or retrieved from the publisher at the initiative of the consumer ?
the
> reader
> is the active party. Examples of pull media include web pages,
bulletin
> boards,
> ftp sites, books, CD-ROMs and libraries.
>
> Coverage
>
> Contest announcements and results should be available in printed and
> digital
> media. An announcement is any advance notice that provides information
as
> the
> time, rules, awards, etc., about a specific contest. The results
include
> information describing any aspect of the contest that is distributed
after
> the
> contest.
> Table 1 shows the relative suitability of using each of these media to
> distribute specific announcement and results content; i.e. ? Is the
medium
> the
> one best suited to distribute this type of information to the target
> audience?
> The suitability of each content type is rated as high, limited or low.
The
> ratings attempt to account for all aspects of the medium including
cost,
> quality, readership, archival, timeliness, etc. The ratings are
defined as
> follows:
> High ? the medium is well suited to both the information and
the
> target audience.
> Limited ? the medium is not the best method for distribution
of
> the
> information to the target audience.
> Low ? the medium is poorly suited to the information, the
target
> audience or both; distribution of the information via this medium may
be
> inefficient, untimely or costly
>
> Table 1 ? General Allocation Guidelines
> OMITTED DUE TO FORMATTING PROBLEMS
>
> PROPOSAL #2 ? New Ideas for Contest-Specific and General Contesting
> Material
> Lead Author ? Brian D. Smith W9IND
> Contributing Authors ?Ward Silver N?AX, Gary Breed K9AY
>
> Scope
>
> This proposal discusses existing contest print coverage. New ideas for
> coverage
> are presented, both for print and electronic media. Details of
> implementation
> are not addressed, neither is the allocation of coverage between types
of
> media.
>
> Purpose
>
> The purpose of this proposal is to:
> Assess and critique current contest coverage in the print media.
> Suggest how to improve coverage in both print and electronic media.
> Contribute new ideas for coverage in multiple media.
>
> Background
>
> The ARRL Staff responsible for publishing a QST having fewer pages per
> issue
> has proposed to allocate the limited resources available for reporting
> contest
> results in ways that are appropriate for a general-readership, monthly
> magazine. This, they believe, would save money and create more space
for
> articles of greater general interest.
>
> The following proposal deals mainly with the latter objective. As
stated
> in
> Point 5 of the ?Joint Statement and Request of U.S. Contest Clubs on
the
> Proposal to Eliminate Detailed Contest Results from QST,? the
coalition of
> ARRL-affiliated contest clubs intends to assist QST in ?making such
> coverage
> more attractive and interesting to a much wider audience than has been
the
> case
> to date.?
>
> In striving to attain this goal, the lead author has drawn from about
a
> quarter
> century of professional journalism experience as a magazine editor,
> newspaper
> reporter and freelance writer. The approach of this proposal is
neither
> complex
> nor radical; it simply suggests journalistic techniques and angles
> traditionally used in the creation of newspaper and magazine feature
> stories,
> newswriting and sportswriting. These approaches are not unknown to
QST,
> but
> perhaps by utilizing them more often, the magazine would enhance its
> contest
> coverage.
>
> Critique of Existing Coverage
>
> QST?s current coverage includes the calls and scores of every entrant,
and
> in
> this respect, its articles could not be more thorough for anyone
seeking
> such
> information. The lead-in text that precedes the contest results is
often
> concise, matter-of-fact and esoteric, and perhaps more interesting to
> hard-core
> contesters than the average ham. As long as this is true, QST may find
it
> difficult to justify devoting so much space to contest coverage.
>
> Possible Alternatives
> QST could revamp the format of the coverage so that (1) the articles
are
> more
> interesting to non-contesters and (2) hams with little contesting
> experience
> are encouraged to get in the game.
>
> General Interest Coverage
>
> One alternative is to make the coverage more like a ?game story? found
on
> a
> sports page. For instance, rather than covering a contest from the
> standpoint
> of final scores (?Club ABC got 7.4 million points in the multi-multi
> category
> to edge Club XYZ, which scored 7.2 million?) ? as is typically done in
QST
> ?
> the magazine could approach it from a ?you are there? angle: ?Club
ABC?s
> contest effort almost ended before it began. Only three hours before
the
> start
> of the ARRL DX Contest, a severe thunderstorm packing 70 mph winds
sent
> their
> tallest antenna tumbling and the entire club scrambling. But a nifty
bit
> of
> improvisation put the station back on the air only 12 minutes before
> midnight
> in Greenwich ?,? etc. Stories like these would have universal appeal,
> regardless of whether the average reader cared deeply about
contesting.
>
> How to round up such information? The contest page on the ARRL Web
site
> already
> has a Soapbox, in which contesters can post their impressions,
complaints,
> reminiscences, anecdotes, etc., regarding each contest. All that?s
needed
> is to
> set up a similar Web site and inform contestants that QST is looking
for
> any
> good stories from the contest. Or the magazine could invite them to
e-mail
> this
> information. The author of the story could then scan the contributed
copy
> for
> the best tales. Many quotes could be lifted directly from the posts or
e-
> mails,
> and further information could be gathered via follow-up e-mail,
landline
> and/or
> even an on-air sked.
>
> New Approaches
>
> Looking more closely at newspaper sports sections, we find further
> inspiration
> and possibilities. We see that not everything on every page is a game
> story:
> There are also feature stories, profiles, personal columns and
?pre-games?
> (stories previewing important games and events ? for instance, ?The
Los
> Angeles
> Lakers may face their toughest challenge of the year when the Dallas
> Mavericks
> come to town Friday ??). The same elements and techniques that sustain
> sports
> pages across America could be employed in contesting coverage.
>
> Feature stories, a broad category, might include topics such as ?How
our
> club
> prepares for a multi-multi event? ? everything from how to recruit and
> schedule
> operators to what food and drink to keep in the fridge. There could be
> discussions of contesting tips and techniques: ?What to do when a
solar
> flare
> zaps the HF bands in the middle of a contest.?
>
> Profiles could run the gamut ? from the 88-year-old guy who organized
the
> first
> ARRL Whatever Contest to the club that?s won the last 10 CQWW
multi-multi
> titles.
> Personal columns could also include a broad range of topics, from
serious
> to
> humorous (?WPX: For once in my life, I?m as rare as Mongolia? by WY9A
? or
> ?How
> contesting enabled me to finally achieve DXCC?).
>
> ?Pre-games? would supplement the traditional pre-contest coverage,
which
> typically consists of a long list of rules and regulation. Such
> information is
> valuable to veteran contesters, but complicated and potentially off-
> putting to
> beginners. Naturally, no one wants to embarrass himself on the air, so
> many
> hams who might enjoy contesting may instead decide to forgo the
contest
> rather
> than risk ridicule.
>
> Attracting Newcomers
>
> Contesters are often viewed by non-contesters as insular and cliquish
(not
> to
> mention pushy). Undoubtedly, some contesters are less than courteous
in
> the
> heat of the battle. But as every contester knows, great scores depend
on
> great
> participation. We need the newcomers ? as many as we can get. So how
to
> make
> them feel welcome?
>
> QST and several Web sites publish information on upcoming contests,
but
> the
> rules may seem overly complex to the uninitiated. A better alternative
> might
> involve creating what?s known in the journalism business as a sidebar.
USA
> Today is fond of sidebars ? read a story about Barry Bonds? current
home
> run
> total and you might also see a sidebar about ?Most home runs in April
?
> all-time bests,? etc. Read any newspaper travel story and you?ll often
> find a
> sidebar that summarizes the key information: ?Destination: Louisville,
> Kentucky. Major tourist attractions: Located on the Ohio River, home
of
> Churchill Downs ?? etc.
>
> It is this user-friendly format ? the sidebar, which would accompany
the
> ?pre-game? write-up ? that would work best in attracting newcomers to
> contesting. Instead of having to wade through a plethora of technical
> data, a
> rookie contester could simply glance at the sidebar and learn
instantly
> what
> the contest was about and how to participate in it, even if he or she
had
> only
> a couple of hours to do so.
>
> Here?s how it might work (?Announced DXpeditions? might lure non-
> contesting
> DXers who are chasing DXCC and other awards):
> Contest: ARRL International DX Contest
> How to participate: Get on any of the HF bands except the WARC bands.
If
> you?re
> in the United States or Canada, you can?t work any station in either
> country ?
> look for DX stations only. For DX stations, the same applies in
reverse.
> What to say: Give a signal report and your state (for Americans),
province
> (for
> Canadians) or power in watts (DX stations).
> Announced DXpeditions: HK?HAM, San Andes Island, CT3QRP, Madeira
Islands,
> etc.
> Quirks: Split operation on 40 because DX stations are assigned to
> different
> frequencies, etc.
> Best reason to participate: You can attain DXCC in one weekend.
> Relative challenge: Easy for all. (Note: An EME contest would
obviously
> get a
> different answer.)
> Web links: http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2002/intldx.html
> Records: Yet another way to increase interest in contesting is to
stoke
> hams?
> competitive fires. How to do that? Create a Web site that provides
easy
> access
> to every record in every major contest. A good reference for records
would
> list
> more than the ?top? result in a particular category. By publishing
many
> results near the top (e.g., top 10, or all of the past results within
10%
> of
> the current high spot), competitors can try to sneak into the listing
even
> though conditions might not permit them to break an all-time record.
An
> excellent reference would contain links to more material: the actual
log,
> technical detail about the station which made the record, operator
> background,
> etc.
>
> This will give potential contest entrants a great many targets to
shoot at
> ?
> and might very well convince a casual contester to go at it for the
full
> 48
> hours. A ham who knows only the single-op, all-band record might say,
?Oh
> well,
> no way am I going to beat that. So I?ll just do a few hours here and
> there.?
> But what if W8HAM discovered that the CQWW 8-land single-op assisted
> record for
> 10 meters was tantalizingly low? That puts a different spin on things,
> doesn?t
> it?
>
> New Ideas for Coverage
>
> Story Ideas: The final part of our proposal offers story ideas that
> (hopefully)
> will interest a general audience. The following is a list of 20
potential
> stories or sidebars that could be included with contest coverage.
There
> are
> obviously many other possibilities.
>
> Trend stories ? ?20 percent of all contesting records were broken in
the
> year
> 2000,? etc. A snapshot of where contesting is going.
> A feature story about the op who holds more contest records than
anyone
> alive.
> The superstations: A guide to the greatest contest stations in
America/the
> world. Perhaps a sidebar on the tallest ham antennas in existence
(used in
> contesting).
> The best contesting conditions in history. (Consider sunspots,
weather,
> rare DX
> stations competing, etc.) A nostalgia piece loaded with anecdotes
about
> how
> sweet it was.
> You are there: A weekend with a championship contest team, from
planning
> to
> take-down.
> The world?s best contest location(s). (Not stations ? this story would
> give
> scientific reasons for why, say, a place next to salt water is better
than
> a
> spot in the middle of Midwest farm country. Or why a QTH on the East
Coast
> is
> ideal for working Europe on several bands (or whatever).
> Wild weather. Hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards and other examples of
> nature?s
> wrath ? and how their inopportune appearances ruined some major
contests
> or
> contesting efforts.
> Profile of a ham who contests only with homebrew equipment. Or antique
> equipment.
> How to work your way up to the big leagues. What separates a good
> contester
> from a rookie? How do you work several stations a minute? What are the
> most
> common mistakes a newcomer makes?
> How to organize a multi-multi effort. Everything from scheduling to
> feeding the
> troops.
> How to secure a great contesting QTH. A guide to the best locations,
and
> perhaps a list of specific sites that rent to hams and are already
> equipped
> with antennas.
> Big guns with little signals. A feature story about the best QRP
> contesters,
> and what they do right.
> The case for contesters. Why shouldn?t America?s biggest and best
stations
> form
> the backbone of the nation?s civil defense/emergency response efforts?
> Point/counterpoint: Examining the age-old issue of contest QRM versus
> ?it?s
> only one weekend?/?why don?t you ragchew on the WARC bands??
> On a similar note, a story about the fact that some contesters have
been
> cited
> by the FCC for deliberate interference during a contest. Is this truly
> fair,
> given the fact that some have said they couldn?t even hear the
stations
> they
> were supposedly QRMing?
> A brief history of contesting. How did it all start?
> Back when. Interviews with the oldest living contesters, and what
> contesting
> was like in their day.
> The lean years. How can you enjoy contesting when the sunspot count is
at
> or
> near zero? What?s the best strategy?
> Which band is best? A guide to choosing the best band for a
single-band
> contesting effort. How do the sunspot count, the A index, the weather,
> etc.,
> help determine the answer?
> Overcomers. Not necessarily the best contesters, just the most
inspiring
> ones,
> such as a ham who suffered a stroke but nevertheless fires up the rig
as
> part
> of his therapy, etc.
>
> Multimedia - Audio and Video
>
> Electronic media creates entirely new opportunities for contest
coverage.
> Not
> only can traditional presentations be distributed at vastly lower
expense
> and
> with higher volume, they can include new types of information as well.
> Audio
> and video recordings, as well as interactive graphics, can bring
> completely new
> dimensions to contest coverage. The ARRL is already providing audio
> recordings
> of QSOs in association with other Web coverage, for example.
>
> Contest coverage would greatly benefit from the following types of
> multimedia
> presentations:
> Audio recordings of contest QSOs
> Audio/video recordings of elements associated with the contest (pre-,
> during,
> and post-contest)
> Photo ?stills? and slide shows
> Interviews with the experts
> Live and still graphics generated by the ARRL and by entrants
>
> Because the amount of effort to create this type of information is
> substantial,
> it is strongly recommended that the ARRL provide a hosting facility
for
> contest
> entrants to contribute or post their own information as is currently
done
> with
> Soapbox. The size and duration of the postings could be limited to
manage
> the
> amount of data space required. The issue of reviewing each post for
> appropriate
> content would also have to be addressed.
>
> Because these new coverage elements are quite rich in content, they
are
> also
> likely to generate discussion and comment by the viewers. In order to
> focus the
> discussion, it would be useful to create a posting service on the
contest
> Web
> site where individual comments could be posted for public comment.
>
> Viewers will have widely divergent access bandwidths ranging from 28.8
> kbps
> dial-ups to broadband. If possible, server technology capable of
sensing
> link
> capability (or allowing the user to specify the link characteristics)
> should be
> used for distribution of the larger elements. An alternative would be
to
> provide large and small versions of elements, where practical.
>
> PROPOSAL #3 ? On-Line Distribution of Contest Data
> Lead Author ? Ward Silver, N?AX
> Contributing Authors ? Michael Keane, K1MK and Sylvan Katz, VE5ZX
>
> Scope
>
> This proposal describes the types of contest data that should be made
> publicly
> available on-line. Detailed data formats are not covered.
>
> Purpose
>
> This document is a summary of ideas and suggestions contributed by
> individuals
> in the contesting community. It is hoped it will serve to stimulate
> discussion
> and produce more ideas.
>
> Background
>
> Until very recently, the only type of contest data available to
> contestants was
> printed and PDF documents that tabulated the scores of class leaders,
gave
> selected entrant breakdowns, and provided line scores of all entrants.
> Contest
> data in a digital form suitable for doing detailed post-contest
analysis
> has
> not been available. With the advent of the Web it is has become
> technically
> easy and cost-effective to make contest data available to everyone in
a
> format
> suitable for analysis. The excellent 2001 ARRL November Sweepstakes
> reportage
> clearly points the way to making improved data sets available.
>
> We expect that detailed post-contest analysis will assist individuals
and
> the
> contesting community as a whole in gaining a deeper understanding and
> appreciation of what transpires during a contest. Ideally, making data
> available will spur novel ideas that lead to creative improvements.
>
> Machine-Readable Results
>
> Quantitative contest results that are normally presented in the
printed or
> PDF
> documents, such as line scores, leader boxes, records, etc., should
also
> be
> made available as machine-readable tables of data. In order to perform
> accurate
> and detailed contest analysis the following data is of particular
interest
> to
> the contesting community:
> The output of the log checking process for any entry
> Supplementary details about a contestant?s equipment and precise
> geographic
> location (e.g. Maidenhead grid locator or latitude-longitude
coordinates)
> Data that is provided should be in common formats suitable for
importing
> into
> standard logging programs, databases and spreadsheet packages.
Examples of
> such
> formats would be Cabrillo format for log data and CSV or tab delimited
> format
> for tabular.
>
> The following sections list the individual data elements recommended
to be
> present in each type of data.
> Log Data
> Summary (Header)
> Station and operator call signs
> Entry Class
> Geographical Region
> Other contest-specific grouping criteria
> QSO data
> Time and Date
> Band
> Mode
> Exchange (Sent & Received)
> Log checking output
> TBD
> Entry Supplemental Data
> Station and operator call signs
> Entry Class
> Geographical Region
> Equipment Summary
> Other contest-specific grouping criteria
>
> We note that the techniques and tools for providing on-line resources
are
> evolving rapidly. On-line resources are also likely to create a demand
for
> new
> types of data, as well. These recommendations are only a start.
>
> Third-Party Analysis
>
> Contest analysis provided by individual entrants should be accompanied
by
> supporting data tables, graphic objects, and program descriptions or
> ideally,
> the programs themselves. The sponsor may also create novel analysis
> metrics
> that are made available electronically via a database.
>
> Examples of Novel Metrics:
> Evaluation of geographical impact on performance
> Propagation analysis based on geographical data
> Accuracy metrics and comparisons
> Operator ranking and rating systems
> Comparative performance-over-time (horse races)
>
> Open Access to Results & Data
>
> Currently some contest content, e.g. expanded coverage for the 2001
ARRL
> November Sweepstakes, is available only on the members-only section of
the
> ARRL
> Web site. While other content, e.g. PDF versions of the contest report
> articles
> from QST, is placed initially on the members-only section for a
> proprietary use
> period prior to its publication in QST. Open access is granted after
the
> article appears in QST and the PDF files are moved to the general user
> section
> of the Web site.
>
> It is appropriate for the bulk of enhanced and expanded contest
coverage,
> including narrative articles, leader boxes, contest analysis, video,
> audio,
> etc., to remain on the members-only section of the ARRL Web site. Some
> content
> may be released for general consumption after an appropriate
proprietary
> period
> at the ARRL?s discretion.
>
> However, it is strongly recommended that open access, or at least
access
> for
> all contest participants, to some minimum set of data be provided. And
> that
> access is granted to these data as soon as they become available.
>
> Suggested Components for An Open Access Data Set:
> Log data
> Line scores in machine-readable form
> Publication of Log Data
>
> The DX community frowns upon providing public access to log data that
> includes
> full QSO details. Such access is seen as enabling a form of ?data
mining?
> that
> would allow an unscrupulous station to claim credit for a log entry
that
> in
> truth represents a busted QSO.
>
> Suggestions for Insuring Integrity:
> Release log data only to individuals who submit a log themselves
> Prohibit the further redistribution of log data by recipient
> Do not release log data until log checking process is completed.
> Investigate ways for ARRL Contest Branch to share log checking results
> with the
> DXCC Program and Logbook of the World project.
>
> Privacy Issues
>
> As important as what data should be available is insuring that
sensitive
> personal information is not released. While certain personal
information
> such
> as a licensee?s name and mailing address is currently included in the
log
> that
> an entrant submits, this information is already a matter of public
record
> and
> readily available from multiple sources. Other, potentially more
> sensitive,
> personal information about the entrant is not included in the log at
> present
> and it is our recommendation that this should continue to be the case.
>
> Suggestion to Safeguard Privacy:
> Personal data that is not readily available from a public source
should
> not be
> published or released.
>
> Preserving Participation
>
> The mandatory release of log data as a condition of entry may cause
> certain
> contesters either to forgo participating in a contest or, if they do
> participate, to not submit a log.
>
> Suggestions for Preserving Participation:
> Include a mechanism in the log submittal process so that each entrant
must
> affirmatively authorize the publication and release of their log data.
> Allow individuals to ?opt out? of sharing their log data without being
> penalized.
>
>
>
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>From K4BEV at aol.com Sat Jul 27 12:39:37 2002
From: K4BEV@aol.com (K4BEV@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
Message-ID: <7c.2b888381.2a7418b9@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/27/02 10:11:36 Central Daylight Time, k1ttt@arrl.net
writes:
> instead of just listing logs received, publish the claimed scores as they
> arrive.
While the above is an outstanding idea, the Cabrillo format doesn't include
that information. It could, however, be included in the subject line of the
log submission, or the format could possibly (?) be changed to include it.
Along with the claimed score I like seeing the number of contacts made and
mult total.
73, Don - K4BEV
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>From w4an at CONTESTING.COM Sat Jul 27 12:58:53 2002
From: w4an@CONTESTING.COM (Bill Fisher, W4AN)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207271153320.8970-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
I believe the most important aspect of getting the results out just before
the next running of the event is that it serves to motivate people to
operate again more effectively. IMO, the League would help their contests
by delaying their printed results.
When am I thinking about CW SS? Not in April.
73
Bill, W4AN
>From jfunk at adams.net Sat Jul 27 11:49:33 2002
From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 15 days...not yet....
Message-ID: <033c01c23586$b6abd700$e8248ad8@adams.net>
Though I am in sympathy with the desire to speed contest results to view, I
find the proposal to drop the log submission deadline to 15 days
post-contest to be in potential conflict with *last week's goal* of
recruiting new contesters.
Several times in the last year or so, I have had new contesters operate a
contest and then hand-deliver their paper logs to me so I could type them
into TrLog and submit them electronically. Some of them don't have
computers (gaack!), some don't have e-mail, some of them don't have logging
programs, and some just didn't know how to handle the logs
post-contest....yet. They are learning. OTOH, they all were willing to
spend a bit of time in the contest and submit the results...somehow; and
they are invariably thrilled to see their calls in print (oops...we've been
there).
I'm not sure *I* can deal with that extra step (or two) and still make
a 15-day deadline. What I *am* sure about is that we don't want to lose
these guys/gals that are just testing the contesting waters.
Fifteen days? Not yet, please.
73, Jim N9JF
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sat Jul 27 10:46:26 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207271646.g6RGkQH27614@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All Rover LP
N4PN 676 75 400 57 20 20,876
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All Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
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All Single Op LP
KN4Y 591 0 42 0 12 49,644 FCG
N4GG 78 10 64 10 9 12,284 PVRC
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
K8MR 52 4 39 4 4,644 MRRC
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NJ8J 43 7 21 7 3 2,604 SECC
W4SAA 27 0 23 0 2 1,242 FCG
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
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All Single Op QRP
NJ4X/7 32 0 31 0 3 1,984
K8GU(@K8GU/P) 8 0 8 0 1 128 MRRC
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 2 15 SECC
Operators:
(none)
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sat Jul 27 10:47:40 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207271647.g6RGleE27623@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
KB8U 227 99 17 30,888
K3DNE 167 69 10 15,732 PVRC
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
K8CC 130 72 6.5 12,240 MRRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE3KZ 126 66 9,570 Ontario VHF Associat
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
K0UK 2 2 27 6 Grand Mesa
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All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/2 QRP
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
HS0XNO 97 2 9 388
HS5SYH 25 2 2 100
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 LP
K8KFJ 26 19 6 494
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 QRP
N3AWS 5 4 3 20
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sat Jul 27 10:50:35 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207271650.g6RGoZn27638@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
W6YX 446 156 10 69,576 NCCC
W1GZ 252 112 10 28,224
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
VA3DX 361 145 10 53,067
W1ZT 373 134 10 49,982 YCCC
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 9 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
9A5W(@9A1A) 301 107 9 32,207
WB4EQS 259 124 32,116
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
AI9T 251 123 10 30,873
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K7ZUM 241 118 7 28,438 WVDXC
N1NB 240 105 8 25,200
K4PX 225 111 10 24,975
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
W4BCG 222 107 9 23,754 TCG
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
K6XT 213 98 9 20,874
W6ZL(BIGWAVE) 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
KD8FS 195 97 5 18,915
LP7H(LU9HS) 227 76 10 17,252
K3FH 176 98 9 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 7 14,964
IT9BLB 186 78 10 14,508 TIKIRRIKI CONTEST CL
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
K5AM 169 78 4 13,182
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
K1XX 161 78 9 12,090
IK0HBN 150 57 10 8,550
WB0O 110 71 2 7,810
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 3 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K9SZ 48 33 1,584
K6OWL 46 34 3 1,564
XE2AC 42 27 3 1,134
F6FJE 24 23 6 552
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
W1GZ N1MGO,WN1E
W6YX K6ENT,N6DE,W6ZZZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Sat Jul 27 11:00:33 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207271700.g6RH0Xp27651@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 27Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
to participate in thsi summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 22 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
K8LX 456 0 169 6 304,538
W7GG 362 300 44 9 265,742
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
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USA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
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USA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 23 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 116 19 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 21 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
K9TM 901 0 109 13 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
AI9T 102 51 15,810
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO CW LP
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
W4BCG 75 0 40 6 9,400 TCG
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
K6XX 1264 247 179 23 1,030,682 NCCC
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 19 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
K1HT 399 123 139 9 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 5 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 13 10,701 SECC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
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USA SO SSB LP
NQ4U 0 235 49 8 81,498 TCG
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
S50HQ 4493 4185 416 24 11,710,400
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
J75KG 1654 661 192 24 1,776,768 FCG
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
DF0RU 775 663 227 22 1,116,031 Berlin-DX-Group
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S LP
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
PJ2E(N1UR) 2211 0 198 24 2,067,034 YCCC
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 20 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
DH7KU 550 0 66 16 134,640 DK0UN University Rad
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO CW LP
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
OH/W6YA 770 0 159 354,570
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RK4FF 1594 846 325 24 2,637,700
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 23 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
UY5ZZ 991 304 123 956,032
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 15 463,606 HSDXA
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 8 402,327
XE2AC 225 598 90 8 257,760
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
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Non-USA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
VE4YU 360 232 61 19 270,750
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 8 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
SV1DNW 132 58 84 12 43,008
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
DF1DX 141 114 92 13 71,300 RR DX
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 23 2,342,130 Other (specify when
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
RN4LP 1505 251 24 1,175,433
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
FM5GU 0 1492 99 10 609,246
S57UN(@S52ZW) 430 5 117,432 SCC
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
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Non-USA SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
SV1DKL 0 683 183 18 416,325
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 162,047
DL4RCK 286 72 8 98,412 BCC
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
DF0RU DH2UHF,DK3WW,DL1AXL,DL7BY,DL7UBA,DL7UFP,DL7UTM
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
W7GG K7ZUM,KC7TWZ,W7GG
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 27 11:59:32 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Recruiting 101
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207270041390.22765-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <20020727175932.97309.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com>
Where is K9PG when you need him ???? Paul... you going to be doing
some publicizing of the NAQP for next weekend ??????
73's Jeff
--- "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com> wrote:
>
>
> I'm now involved with recruiting members for next weekend's NAQP CW
> contest. I'm having some success recently recruiting people to
> operate
> the CW Sprint and NAQP contests, and thought I might pass on some
> hints in
> hopes that other clubs will also have success recruiting members for
> contests.
>
> 1) Announce your intentions here on CQ-Contest and club mail
> reflectors.
> Normally I find this to be mildly successful. Be sure to mention
> that you
> are not just looking for serious operators... that you are fielding
> teams
> of part-timer ops too.
>
> 2) The best technique I have found is contacting each person directly
> by
> e-mail personally. I follow the same method as is #1 and normally
> put in
> some kind of note about us trying to show up some other club or
> something
> else that we can all get our heads around.
>
> 3) Finding Members. I first look at old results for the contest in
> question. Then I move to other contests. For instance, I've had
> really
> good luck this time recruiting guys that operate the ARRL 160 and 10
> meter
> contests as well as CW SS. The results are on the web, and almost
> everyone has an email address that can easily be had on eHam.net or
> QRZ.com. These are also contests that are more domestic in nature,
> which
> is right up the alley of the NAQP.
>
> 4) Finding More Members. Team work! I ask everyone on our teams to
> recruit just one other person to be a member of the teams. This has
> worked very well in the past, as there is no way I can know every
> potential operator in the 4th call area.
>
> 5) Organization. I'm now keeping everyone's callsign, name, etc, in
> a
> database so I can quickly refer to it the next running of the
> contest.
>
> 6) Post cards. Some of the Sprint regulars have recently taken up
> writing
> potential operators post cards in an effort to remind them of a
> contest.
> I personally find email with the expressed intent of joining a team
> is
> more effective.
>
> 7) Team placement competition. Back in the early 80s there was this
> phenom called the Midwest Popguns organzied by Joe (W8LNO) and Tom
> (N0SS) for the CW Sprint. Team placement was based on your finish in
> the
> prior contest. The Popguns fieleded several teams, and I recall
> being
> highly motivated to move from team last to team next. We are just
> starting with this here in W4 for next month's Sprint.
>
> So far I have 22 guys signed up for next weekend. The TCG and FCG
> are
> also fielding at least 2 teams each. I figure we'll have more than
> 50
> guys from W4 active to some degree or another! Now think how much
> fun the
> contest would be if this could be nearly duplicated across 10 call
> areas!
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
>
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>From k2av at contesting.com Sat Jul 27 15:38:44 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207271153320.8970-100000@fresno.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <001d01c2359c$d66838c0$0500a8c0@swift>
For operating at a multi, the biggest help is to get the final score
(and the ubn's, etc.) back so the guys can go through it and formulate
ideas for the next time while
1) we can still remember what was going on in the contest
2) while there's still time to engineer and implement changes for
the next one (which is not necessarily the SAME contest a year hence).
Ain't NO big rush at all. We're not dealing with anything that's a
RUSH here.
Just trying to get rid of the obnoxious, brain-numbing, slower than
molasses at the North Pole at Christmas, DELAY in seeing what you did
that we have been putting up with since forever. And get rid of AS
MUCH of the delay as is possible.
Imagine boarding a plane October 30 and not knowing if you made it to
your destination until the next September. Instead you get off the
plane and you have to call Dink to see what country your plane landed
in.
Imagine having a Christmas present under your tree, but you can't open
it until next Thanksgiving.
Imagine closing on a house, starting the payments, paying the
insurance, but not being allowed to move in for ten months.
Instead, for reasons increasingly ENTIRELY artificial, doing a contest
is like starting a pregnancy. Lot of fun in a hurry, but you're going
to wait nine months to see what happened.
Even 30 days is a DELAY, no matter which way you add it up. Even for
the Post Office, 30 days is unacceptable.
Having the scores ready at Noon, Monday, next day after the contest,
THAT'S a rush.
73, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Fisher, W4AN" <w4an@contesting.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 11:58 AM
Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
> I believe the most important aspect of getting the results out just
before
> the next running of the event is that it serves to motivate people
to
> operate again more effectively. IMO, the League would help their
contests
> by delaying their printed results.
>
> When am I thinking about CW SS? Not in April.
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
>
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>From n7mal at citlink.net Sat Jul 27 19:54:17 2002
From: n7mal@citlink.net (N7MAL)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
References: <200207270224.g6R2O1hF032150@contesting.com>
<05da01c23517$89c05b40$03010a0a@office1>
<001d01c2353f$1f5b8ae0$7c6f7e42@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <003101c2359f$0efb0800$41c043d8@n7mal1>
I could not agree with my friend, Jim, more. In fact here is an excerpt from
reply sent directly to Trey: "Hi Trey; your plan, of course, is flawless.
BUT why do we want or need it? The old system has worked perfectly for many
years. Why do we need instant
gratification? Your argument by the time results are published we forgot
what we operated in is, at best, ludicrous. I believe, down to my toes, the
wait for the results promotes interest rather than reduce interest. I go
back to the days of paper logs"...blah blah blah......"You are making and
suggesting changes for the sake of making changes and to overturn a
perfectly working system for those
motivations is absurd."......blah blah blah....
Trey is not suggesting making the system better he is making it faster, for
reasons I still don't understand, let alone agree with. He has done
marvelous work getting the Cabrillo system up and running and should receive
kudos' from all of us for that improvement. Getting as many humans out of
the system as possible was a good thing.
Sometimes slowing down and smelling the roses aint such a bad thing.
MAL N7MAL
BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Neiger" <n6tj@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <wn3vaw@fyi.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 07:27
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
> I guess I agree with Ron:
>
> Even if we can maybe hasten the time to the final results, What's the Big
> Rush? Its worked so well for so many years, why do we now think it's
> broken?
>
> Just because many things in our lives CAN and DO go faster, does
everything
> have to?
>
> For many years, the speed limit was 55 MPH. Then they cranked it back up
to
> 65, and in some places even 70. Now, if you're not doing at least 80 on
the
> 91 Freeway, hey buddy, get out of the way. Does that make our lives
> necessarily "better"?
>
> I recall when I was thrilled with my first computer, humming along at a
nice
> 16 MHz. Now I'm wondering if my new 1.3 GHz notebook is fast enough?
Give
> me a break, please..........
>
> Everything today is about speed, speed, speed. Even when driving in Italy
> or Germany, do I take a relaxed tour @ 100 km/hour so I might actually SEE
> some of the beautiful countryside? Nah, I've got to try and COMPETE with
> the locals, and crank it up to 200 km/hr (at least). Is my quality of
life
> better by doing so? I think not. It's just dumb, dumb, dumb.
>
> Now we're led to believe, we can't live without INSTANTANEOUS
GRATIFICATION
> on our contest victory?
>
> If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But it's very thoughtful of The Kid (as
> Trey is known around this household) to worry that we old guys may not be
> around long enough for the final results.
>
> The meaningfulness of the answer, for me, far exceeds the quest for
> expediency, in this case.
>
> Vy 73
>
> Jim Neiger
> N6TJ
>
>
>
> >
> > Considering the outcry last year when (under the dubious excuse of
safety
> of
> > the mail) CQ Magazine forced all of us to enter only by electronic
means,
> to
> > now propose to "force" contest entrants to rush in their logs and then
> > "force" the contest committee to rush compilation in another 2 weeks
> strikes
> > me as being too hasty.
> >
> > Are we all so impatient that reducing the turn-around time between
contest
> &
> > results from 6-8 months for the ARRL, and 8-10 months for CQ (just to
pick
> > on two) to under 2 months isn't enough, but we're going to try to
> force-feed
> > it to 6 or even 4 weeks?
> >
> > Remember, we're not dealing with a "closed" environment like the WRTC
> > competitions, where you have a relative small number of stations (50 or
> > less) competing for 24 hours. Compiling those results in a few hours is
a
> > piece of cake. We're talking about 48 hour contests that literally
> involve
> > thousands, if not tens of thousands, of amateurs -- many of whom never
> have
> > or will send in logs, which always leave question marks about "uniques"
> and
> > "busted calls" and other potential problems to sort out.
> >
> > Further, you must remember that in much of the world outside of North
> > America and Europe, Internet access is not as accessible nor as cheap as
> it
> > is here. I would not be at all surprised to learn that there are many
> > active contesters who have a computer in the shack, yet prefer to mail
> their
> > results in via a disk for whatever reasons.
> >
> > I think we should be more concerned with using the proposed changes in a
> > positive way to encourage more potential contesters. I think if we rise
> the
> > bar too high, we make the goal too difficult, it will do the exact
> opposite
> > by discouraging potential contesters and some of the active and less
> active
> > ones out there.
> >
> > I also would question the ability to compile scores, even with
automation,
> > in a day or two. Pending data to prove that one way or another, that
> > strikes me as being more than a bit optimistic. Can someone on one of
the
> > major contest committees comment on whether or not automation makes one
or
> > two days practical?
> >
> > I am not saying that Trey's proposed 15 day deadline is a bad idea. But
I
> > don't think we're quite ready for it yet. One thing at a time.
> >
> > 73, ron wn3vaw
> >
> > "What's wrong with being an angry prophet denouncing the hypocrisies of
> our
> > time?" -- Howard Beale
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
> > To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line
scores
> > decision)
> >
> > > In short, if we give the committee a month past deadline to assemble
and
> > > post to the web the results (or is a month not enough now, guys?
> > > Tell me if
> > > I'm wrong), and we can have the final results two months after the
> contest
> > > instead of six to eight months, isn't that good enough?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > No, it's not good enough.
> >
> > I say let's try the proposal for a season. It will force the remaining
> > entrants to use or find electronic means. It will force us all to be a
> tad
> > more prompt with the submissions. With the level of automation we now
> have,
> > 15 days for submission and 15 days for tallying what should be something
> > that can be done in 1 or 2 days sounds about right to me. It leaves
most
> of
> > that last 2 weeks open for unanticipated problems.
> >
> > You don't reach a goal by setting it low and hope to improve on it
later.
> > When's later, a few more years? Rather, set an extremely difficult goal
> and
> > then surprise yourself when you achieve it.
> >
> > I think this is doable with only level-1 whining about it.
> >
> > Gary W2CS
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
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>From K4BEV at aol.com Sat Jul 27 16:23:50 2002
From: K4BEV@aol.com (K4BEV@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
Message-ID: <cd.1ae6f65f.2a744d46@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/27/02 11:12:56 Central Daylight Time, K4BEV@aol.com
writes:
> the Cabrillo format doesn't include that information
I looked at a submitted log and didn't see the Claimed Score.
It IS there though.
SRI,
Don - K4BEV
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>From headrick at radar.nrl.navy.mil Sat Jul 27 20:42:25 2002
From: headrick@radar.nrl.navy.mil (James Headrick)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Contest Coverage Working Group Guidelines and
Proposals
In-Reply-To: <t83ad26ssmyfq07.270720020826@designet-jsi>
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20020727191849.031f7580@radar.nrl.navy.mil>
Jim, the people that look at this reflector have pretty short attention
spans and don't like to examine in depth. Your 'Guidelines and Proposals'
is 15 pages long!! jim w3cp
>From n2mg at eham.net Sat Jul 27 17:43:52 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Michael Gilmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
References: <cd.1ae6f65f.2a744d46@aol.com>
Message-ID: <008401c235ae$52b6f9a0$3201a8c0@mikehome>
>From the Cabrillo spec, http://www.kkn.net/~trey/cabrillo/spec.html
CLAIMED-SCORE: n
The claimed-score of the log submission, in integer form such as 1217315 or
19113 or 12.
It's redundant from a final score point of view, but if the robot can start
posting "claimed scores" then this field has renewed relevance.
----- Original Message -----
From: <K4BEV@aol.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
> In a message dated 7/27/02 11:12:56 Central Daylight Time, K4BEV@aol.com
> writes:
>
>
> > the Cabrillo format doesn't include that information
>
> I looked at a submitted log and didn't see the Claimed Score.
> It IS there though.
> SRI,
> Don - K4BEV
>
>From kc5ajx at hotmail.com Sat Jul 27 21:49:27 2002
From: kc5ajx@hotmail.com (Rick Bullon)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Porposal for new contest sponsors
Message-ID: <F73Tlm70rM3TbhyF2fP00021f65@hotmail.com>
We have the technology today that there
is not a need for national organizations like the ARRL or a magazine
like CQ need to sponsor our contests. Most of those who check the logs
and are sponsoring the awards are donating their time to do this
anyway.
Jeff
I agree with Jeff. What does the contest sponsors really do? They make the
rules for the contest ( and are reluctant to change them if we suggest
changes) and they report the results but only for the members or subscribers
at first.
We have the means and opportunity to make contesting into what we want it to
be after all are not the contests really our contest and not theirs? They
are not really interested in the contests, they see it as a means to get
members or subscribers, and they can still do this by publishing articles
about the contests and let us run them.
Here is what I propose
Take control of the contests and move the ARRL and CQ mag from sponsors to
reviewers
If we could get a web page on one of the contest servers then we would not
need the ARRL or CQ mag for contests
We have the CAC but they can only suggest changes in the rules. Why not have
them make and change the rules based on feedback from us the contesters.
The awards are sponsored and distributed by volunteers so we need to help
them do a better job (suggestions here please). I do admit the Dan N1ND at
the ARRL contest section does an excellent job we do need him and his
assistants. Is it possible to get Dan to do this outside of the ARRL?
I am not sure who does the awards for the CQ contests but I know their
record for getting awards and plaques to the winner's is not very good. What
needs to be done to help them do a better job???
As far as log checking I believe that Tree N6TR wrote the log checking
software for most of the contests and he wrote the software for the robot
for log submissions I am not sure who owns the rights to the software, but
if we could get this software and something like what the ARRL is doing on
the website to report the scores it would be great. Who did the programming
on the ARRL web page?
I also like K1TTT's suggestion of real time reporting in the internet. The
WRTC team proved it can be done on a small scale can't it be done for a
larger contest?? Some might say that real time reports like what the WRTC
did would promote cheating but I think that those who cheat will always find
a way to break the rules and that the cheaters are few compared to the
numbers of honest contesters.
I think over all that the changes the ARRL has made on their website is
great but the resource they provide there should be available to all
contesters not not to the members only. I understand why they do it that way
but I feel the membership in the ARRL is more than the contests
they do a great job and we need them for what they do. I don't think that
making the contest site available to all will hurt membership, but it is
becoming and valuable tool to contesting, either open it up to all or let it
be moved to a contest site like I proposed above
Another idea I have is after the contest deadline for logs be it 15 or 30
days, that the logs submitted be available on line in a form we can sort
like we can sort the scores are on the ARRL website this way we can digest
what the other stations are doing and when to help us be better in the next
contest.
These are just my suggestions feel free to tear it apart and discuss it.
Maybe we can come up with a resource for all to use to make contesting
better for us all.
73
Rick
KC5AJX
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>From n3bb at mindspring.com Sat Jul 27 16:39:56 2002
From: n3bb@mindspring.com (Jim George)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] N5KO's proposal to shorten the results availability
Message-ID: <v02120d0ab968c35abc1c@EIM-Mac-1.5tcp>
In general, I support Trey's efforts. "If you're not making progress,
you're moving backwards." The points by Dave, G4BUO, regarding more time
for overseas logs seems like a valid point, but as a general rule, people
either prepare their contest results right away, or put if off until the
deadline, when they have forgotten the details. For me, a 30 days period
to get in the results from anywhere in the world by postal mail is
adequate, and this should enable the results to be analyzed and posted on
the internet sooner. The magazine articles can come sooner as well.
73,
Jim
>From jskatz at sk.sympatico.ca Sat Jul 27 16:47:34 2002
From: jskatz@sk.sympatico.ca (Sylvan Katz)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Porposal for new contest sponsors
References: <F73Tlm70rM3TbhyF2fP00021f65@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <00fc01c235b7$37bb1510$6400a8c0@selfsimilar>
>I agree with Jeff. What does the contest sponsors really do? They make the
>rules for the contest ( and are reluctant to change them if we suggest
>changes) and they report the results but only for the members or
subscribers
>at first.
>We have the means and opportunity to make contesting into what we want it
to
>be after all are not the contests really our contest and not theirs? They
>are not really interested in the contests, they see it as a means to get
>members or subscribers, and they can still do this by publishing articles
>about the contests and let us run them.
Very strong ideas - I like many of them!
I, like you, think that the contest community could evolve into a sort of
"open source contest scoring and analysis community". I also think that much
of what you are saying will come to pass fairly soon but probably not right
at the moment. It will take a bit of time for the momentum to build. You
might find that some of your suggestions are embedded - but not
transparently - in the proposal we recently placed before the ARRL BoD. Have
a look at the section on 3rd party activities and availability of contest
logs in http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
If contestant logs were made available to 3rd parties any number of
different rule sets can be tried and tested on them giving us an opportunity
to explore new rules without disturbing the 'classic' rules for the time
being. In fact, as a community all we really need to do is submit our logs
to the contest sponsor and to a central public repository. However, it would
be nice if we did not have to duplicate our efforts. Thus the proposal to
the ARRL BoD proposes that ARRL contest logs be made available to 3rd
parties provided certain privacy & security issues are respected. Also
contestants should be allowed to "opt out" of making their logs available to
3rd parties Open source logs with open source scoring and analysis software
could open many unique doors for us to explore the future face of contesting
now!
I say - let the evolution begin! :-)
.. sylvan
????
----------------
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Saskatoon, SK
"A Novel Perspective of Amateur Radio Contesting" at
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>From n6ws at charter.net Sat Jul 27 15:55:33 2002
From: n6ws@charter.net (Bill Shell)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Station in CO or NM
Message-ID: <BGECJAFKJHPEIEKNBLKMIEIGECAA.n6ws@charter.net>
Hello All,
Are there any contest stations in Northern New Mexico or Southern Colorado
planning for a multi-single or multi-multi operation during CQWW CW? I'm
planning on being in the Trinidad, CO area during the contest, and would
like to participate with a group in the area.
73, Bill
N6WS
n6ws@charter.net
>From kshaddri at xtratyme.com Sat Jul 27 18:15:37 2002
From: kshaddri@xtratyme.com (Kelley Shaddrick)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 10-10 Contest Antennas
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020727171203.00a17e70@mail.xtratyme.com>
Anyone have any thoughts on antennas for the upcoming 10-10 contest? What
is all around best, vertical, dipole, ground plane? I've currently got an
all band inverted V at about 50 feet and a vertical mounted on a chain link
fence. While I'd love to have a beam, not in the cards for this year. What
can I add to improve my chances of additional contacts?
Thanks,
Kelley - W?RK
>From w7ti at dslextreme.com Sat Jul 27 16:51:58 2002
From: w7ti@dslextreme.com (Bill Turner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Porposal for new contest sponsors
In-Reply-To: <F73Tlm70rM3TbhyF2fP00021f65@hotmail.com>
References: <F73Tlm70rM3TbhyF2fP00021f65@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <rm86kug8qrgc38f5tf4eg005e00gt6ufju@4ax.com>
On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:49:27 +0000, Rick Bullon wrote:
> What does the contest sponsors really do?
_________________________________________________________
Having a contest sponsored by an organization ensures continuity
over time, at least while the organization endures. To "take"
the contest away from the organization and place it in the hands
of volunteers who come and go guarantees the contest will
fragment and disappear in a short while.
Bill, W7TI
>From k8cc at comcast.net Sat Jul 27 20:50:02 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest Recruiting 101
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020727194824.009c0490@mail.comcast.net>
Bill,
I gotta commend you on your efforts to raise teams for the NAQPs. It
sounds like you're having a lot of success and it should be a lot of fun.
You mention W8LNO's 'Midwest Popguns'. Joe was a long-time member of MRRC
and about the same time that he was organizing the Popguns, I was
organizing the 'Motley Crew' Sprint teams. This was the timeframe (early
80s) immediately after I returned to MI from college in AR. K5GO and I
were on 7200 KHz every Tuesday evening talking contesting and we'd attract
other contesters. We started with one Motley Crew team (the name sprung
from the wide assortment of operators we attracted), had two teams quite
often, and occasionally three if I remember correctly.
Of course, IMHO the crowning achievement of the Motley Crew and Midwest
Popgun teams was the 45 minute "New Wave" Sprint we held immediately before
a regular Sprint in 1984 to protest W6OAT's refusal to move the starting
time from 01Z to 00Z to provide a modicum of stateside propagation for us
Midwesterners. We made our point and Rusty made the change. The panic
caused across the USA as contesters double-checked their clocks was a bonus...
Of course this was before you and I knew each other :-)
We need more stuff like this to make history.
I wonder what Joe Warden is up to now?
Unfortunately, we have an MRRC meeting at W8AV's the day of the CW
NAQP. This date was not chosen carelessly, but was the result of 'AV
family schedules. Our plan is to have K8MAD on the air multi-op from 'AV
for NAQP CW QSOs. Also, the following weekend is the OH QSO Party so a
number of the mobiles plan to drive their mobile contest setups to the
meeting so there are some other potential sources for QSOs.
GL OM.
73,
Dave
>From k8cc at comcast.net Sat Jul 27 21:01:31 2002
From: k8cc@comcast.net (David A. Pruett)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Use For The Cabrillo Claimed Score Field
In-Reply-To: <008401c235ae$52b6f9a0$3201a8c0@mikehome>
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Speaking for the ARRL 160/10 logchecking team, we use the Cabrillo Claimed
Score field an a sanity check on the score our logchecking process
generates. Anything more than about a 25% difference generates a warning
for manual review. IMHO, anything which helps us guarantee the integrity
of the log is a good thing.
Certainly this field is not required since we completely recalculate the
scoring anyways. While its simple for the logging software to include,
Cabrillo converters such as KA5WSS and WT4I generally are not equipped with
scoring algorithms and so are unable to calculate the score.
This past contest we discovered that even some logging programs don't know
how to calculate ARRL 10M scores correctly. Unfortunately we could not
tell which ones - the programs left no telltale marks in the Cabrillo file.
K8CC
At 04:43 PM 7/27/02 -0400, Michael Gilmer wrote:
>From the Cabrillo spec, http://www.kkn.net/~trey/cabrillo/spec.html
>
>
>CLAIMED-SCORE: n
>The claimed-score of the log submission, in integer form such as 1217315 or
>19113 or 12.
>
>
>It's redundant from a final score point of view, but if the robot can start
>posting "claimed scores" then this field has renewed relevance.
>
>
>
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>From: <K4BEV@aol.com>
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>Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 3:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Plant lemon trees
>
>
> > In a message dated 7/27/02 11:12:56 Central Daylight Time, K4BEV@aol.com
> > writes:
> >
> >
> > > the Cabrillo format doesn't include that information
> >
> > I looked at a submitted log and didn't see the Claimed Score.
> > It IS there though.
> > SRI,
> > Don - K4BEV
> >
>
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>From lz4ax at psu.edu Sat Jul 27 21:40:12 2002
From: lz4ax@psu.edu (Alexander Avramov)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207271341.g6RDfphF003289@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <002e01c235cf$561dc850$0100a8c0@computer>
N2MG wrote :
>
> I don't think this is what makes a "membership" organization tick. ARRL
> sponsors the contests precisely TO attract membership. They don't have
> members so they can sponsor contests. In fact, there are plenty at HQ
who
> would rather not have contests at all.
>
> > I doubt if this is accomplished by penalizing non-ARRL entries.
>
> Since we're talking about lemonade, I'd say they don't penalize non-member
> entries, but rather, they reward member entries.
>
> I'm sure it's no small thorn in the ARRL's side that non-members expect to
> be treated with the same respect that members are. Can't really fault the
> League for that. And I really don't fault non-USA folks for not joining
the
> ARRL but I do fault them for expecting equal treatment (maybe that's the
> American in me talking?). Sure, ARRL "needs" as many DX ops as possible
to
> operate in their contests in order to make the contests attractive enough
> that folks will have fun - fun which will inspire some of these same folks
> to become members. If they ever conclude that fun-contests does not
equate
> to new-members, bye-bye (ARRL sponsorship of) contests.
>
> 73 Mike N2MG
Mike,
are you serious or ... just kidding ?
Alex LZ4AX/AA3AX
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Sat Jul 27 22:23:16 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207271341.g6RDfrhF003292@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <002a01c235d5$8e9c2860$03010a0a@office1>
Gary,
Sorry to be so long to reply, out some LookOut, er, Outlook Express problems
all day.
I think the key disagreement we have is over the current level of available
technology and human interaction with it. I am simply not convinced that
the hardware & software technology exists today to permit the level of
automation that would easily permit a contest comittee to process thousands
of logs with minimal fuss. Let me stress that I specifically intend "exists
today." Next year, two or three years from now, things may change.
Now I have tremendous respect for the work that Trey has done with Cabrillo
and the various logging robots. These improvements have certainly made
sending in the log electronically both simple and a pleasure -- when
everything works right. But sometimes things don't... it cost me the WPA
section in the ARRL DX SSB contest a couple of years ago when the log I sent
in as Low Power got received at ARRL as High Power (changing me from 1st
Place LP to 2nd Place HP -- and that's very frustrating when you consider my
antennas are just a couple of verticals!). Even with the long lead times,
by the time I became aware of the error it was too late to fix it (and
that's not N1ND's fault, I should have checked it sooner). If we shorten
the entry deadline from 30/31 to 15 days, we decrease the amount of time
that errors like that can be caught and corrected.
Yes, there will be procrastinators (of which I'm a master) who will always
put off sending in the log until the last day or two. That won't change be
it 30 days, 15 days, or 5 days.
I also think you may be underestimating the problems of Internet access in
much of the world. I've heard privately from quite a few that this is
currently a major problem for some of the contest teams who activate some of
the rarer spots. Again, this is not going to be true a few years from now
(I hope) but it will be for the short term.
I know a few people are suggesting that some of the things done at WRTC
(such as real-time monitoring, if I remember correctly) be implemented in
the near future. This can be a major problem for quite a few contesters.
I'm still on a dial-up connection (can't get DSL yet and I'm not letting
that !@#%^&**$! cable company back in the house), and I'm sure I'm not the
only one in that boat. I'd sure hate to be told that in order to be
elibible for something more than a check-log recognition, I'd have to have a
24x7 high speed Internet connection in the shack. Right now, I'd rather
spend that money on antennas or radios than on a fractional T-1, ISDN, or
some form of frame access (all that's available to me now, and it's all
expensive). Again, the technology may be available, but at a cost that
many (perhaps most) can't afford.
Are people resistant to change? Yup. Remember the outcry over Cabrillo
when it was announced? Now it's a no-brainer.
One thing I haven't seen in this discussion yet are comments from someone
who is on one of the contest committees (or if they have, they haven't
overtly admitted to it! <g>). I'd still be interested in seeing comments
from someone involved in tabulating the results as to whether or not a 15
day turn-around between logs received and results published is practical.
I've been involved in a few local contests with tabulating logs (granted by
hand), and I know how much a pain doing "only" a couple of hundred are. I
can only imagine how much is involved with thousands -- but I'd rather hear
from someone who is currently doing it, especially with the tools now
available.
Now, one thing we will agree on is that the ultimate goal will be to shorten
the turn-around time from contest to results to the neighborhood of 4 to 6
weeks. I just don't see this as happening in the immediate future.
73, ron wn3vaw
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----- Original Message -----
Message: 6
From: "Gary Ferdinand W2CS" <W2CS@bellsouth.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
Ron, we agree on one point. We disagree with each other -HI. Although I
like the "for now" part :-) To your points:
1. Outcry: People hate change. We live with it and move on. This is no
different.
2. Yup, I'm that impatient. The technology exists. We should set a good
goal.
3. Uniques: Yup. There will always be question marks. Do the best we can.
4. Rest of world: I don't think it's the problem you and a few others
have voiced. I know of several stations that are rare that are club
stations. Internet access is not a problem. We're not always talking about
individual stations in some primitive, isolated area. Those are more likely
DXpeditions and my cruise ship analogy applies.
5. Encouraging others: I think "immediate" results-reporting provides
substantial encouragement. It's the immediate feedback or reward that
others have more lucidly described than I to which I refer. I agree with
those sentiments.
Good discussion, this. Whether it's 4 weeks, 6 or 8, in the end it's a
great improvement. I think we should do what we can to aim for 4 weeks with
a 15 day turn-in requirement, as Trey proposed. If we end up having to
delay it a bit with a contest or two for good reason, I doubt you'd hear
many complaints! (Hmm, well not from me anyway.)
Bedtime. 73 all.
Gary W2CS
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>From k5zd at charter.net Sun Jul 28 07:01:51 2002
From: k5zd@charter.net (Randy Thompson, K5ZD)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
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Good point. The best approach is probably to go for fast turn around of
results/writeup on the web site (for the participants who are anxious to
learn who won) and do a general interest writeup in QST hyping the contest
just before the running of the next one.
R
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Bill Fisher, W4AN
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 15:59 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: re: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
>
>
> I believe the most important aspect of getting the results out just before
> the next running of the event is that it serves to motivate people to
> operate again more effectively. IMO, the League would help their contests
> by delaying their printed results.
>
> When am I thinking about CW SS? Not in April.
>
> 73
>
> Bill, W4AN
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>From thompson at mindspring.com Sun Jul 28 03:36:24 2002
From: thompson@mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Log Checking
References: <200207270601_MC3-1-848-E994@compuserve.com>
Message-ID: <00a201c23601$18cdc180$772745cf@default>
Dave G4BUO brongs up an excellent point. He fears that everything will be
left to the computer software and nothing to a person reviewing the logs.
Again I can only speak for the CQ 160 Contests but the real objective of the
canrillo format was to have one standard format so all logs big and small
will be judged the same.
With the present situation this is nearly impossible as there is paper logs
and electronic logs is non cabrillo format. I do not have the resources or
time to key in the paper logs and even convert
the old format (CT, TR, and NA mainly). Owners of these programs owe it to
the contest community to get a later version that produces a cabrillo log or
use one of the converters and please get the summary info right!
As for log checking, the tools give me a list of dupes, bad calls, and
uniques for each contestant and the uniques goes even further to highlight
those that from the data base might be busts rather than uniques. I look at
the logs and try to reconcile the bads calls and possible busts. I assign
penalties not the programs. The biggest boon to me is the NIL (not in log
found). I also
check the Dx logs for correct state and this is an area where Dx stations
lose many points. I also get a report that warns me if the final score
before afjustments is more than 10% from the claimed score. I also look at
unique percentage. Any station with more than 3% uniques are reported and
those with more than 7% uniques are subject to penalty and disqualification.
This may be unique to the 160 meter band but even the best equiped stations
seldom have more than 3% uniques. The term unique was coined bty the
Directors of the CQ 160 Contests and this has been a standard since I
started helping Don in 1986.
The new software along with the cabrillo format is moving us to the point to
where the accuracy of the scores has improved dramatically. However
reporting the final scores only has a marginal improvement in our ability to
report the scores quicker. One or two months is the maximum possible.
73 Dave K4JRB
>From brianmiller at xtra.co.nz Sun Jul 28 22:30:07 2002
From: brianmiller@xtra.co.nz (Brian Miller)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
References: <200207271341.g6RDfrhF003292@contesting.com>
<002a01c235d5$8e9c2860$03010a0a@office1>
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Hi all
I have been working with the Oceania DX Contest Committee on the 2001 results.
>From my experience it would be very difficult or impossible to guarantee the
>processing and
presentation of results for a MAJOR contest within 2 weeks. It might be
possible if
1. ALL logs are in the correct electronic format (a robot is essential)
2. NOTHING goes wrong with the robot process and/or software
3. NOTHING goes wrong with the log checking process and/or software
4. The log checkers and web presentation writers are able to devote ALL of
their time to the task -
not just a few hours during the weekday evenings and on weekends.
The above is a BIG ask!
Lets look for some improvements but we also need to be realistic.
I think 4 weeks is a reasonable submission period. We do not want to discourage
logs from entrants
who cannot make a 2 week deadline. Furthermore some entrants will require
additional time to review
and resubmit logs that have been rejected by the robot.
73
Brian ZL1AZE
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW <wn3vaw@fyi.net>
To: CQ Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] making lemonade (was: ARRL report on line scores
decision)
>
> One thing I haven't seen in this discussion yet are comments from someone
> who is on one of the contest committees (or if they have, they haven't
> overtly admitted to it! <g>). I'd still be interested in seeing comments
> from someone involved in tabulating the results as to whether or not a 15
> day turn-around between logs received and results published is practical.
> I've been involved in a few local contests with tabulating logs (granted by
> hand), and I know how much a pain doing "only" a couple of hundred are. I
> can only imagine how much is involved with thousands -- but I'd rather hear
> from someone who is currently doing it, especially with the tools now
> available.
>
>From K7LXC at aol.com Sun Jul 28 09:33:58 2002
From: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Porposal for new contest sponsors
Message-ID: <182.bbba91c.2a753eb6@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/27/02 6:11:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
w7ti@dslextreme.com writes:
> Having a contest sponsored by an organization ensures continuity
> over time, at least while the organization endures. To "take"
> the contest away from the organization and place it in the hands
> of volunteers who come and go guarantees the contest will
> fragment and disappear in a short while.
Methinks that one's chances of wresting away any existing contest from
its sponsor would be legally impossible. The ARRL and CQ OWN their events so
this is an idea with no future.
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org Sun Jul 28 10:27:29 2002
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
In-Reply-To: <NDBBJODEMLLOGMDJBPCDKEFPDLAA.k5zd@charter.net>
Message-ID: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJCEKEEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
I think the reminder article is fine as a reminder and as an enticement to
non-contesters to try their hand.
Personal contact might be more effective.
What's the percentage these days of electronic log submissions these days?
Pretty high, I would imagine. 70%? 80%? 90%?
Is there a way these days to get the e-mail addresses from the contest's
previous year's electronic log submissions and send an e-mail to them about
a week or two ahead of time to
(1) thank them for their participation in last year's contest (maybe
even
remind them of their score and placing) and
(2) to invite them to participate in this year's contest (provide dates,
times, exchanges, links, etc.)?
For the casual or newbie contester who happened to show up in a contest, it
might make the difference between being there or being a no-show. Isn't a
habit formed after doing something as few as two or three times?
73,
dale, kg5u
>From k1ttt at arrl.net Sun Jul 28 16:03:18 2002
From: k1ttt@arrl.net (David Robbins)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
In-Reply-To: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJCEKEEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Message-ID: <000201c23647$e8c52f90$0200a8c0@k1ttt1>
A new class of spam! This may actually be interesting though... But if
you really want to try to drag in the casual guys don't just send
reminders to log submitters. Go collect all the calls worked in a
contest from the logs (maybe make that all calls worked more than
once??) and look up email addresses from qrz, buckmaster, arrl
databases, etc and try to get the guys that didn't get interested enough
last year to send in a log back on the air.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-admin@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> admin@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Dale L Martin
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 14:27
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
>
> I think the reminder article is fine as a reminder and as an
enticement to
> non-contesters to try their hand.
>
> Personal contact might be more effective.
>
> What's the percentage these days of electronic log submissions these
days?
> Pretty high, I would imagine. 70%? 80%? 90%?
>
> Is there a way these days to get the e-mail addresses from the
contest's
> previous year's electronic log submissions and send an e-mail to them
> about
> a week or two ahead of time to
> (1) thank them for their participation in last year's contest
(maybe
> even
> remind them of their score and placing) and
> (2) to invite them to participate in this year's contest
(provide
> dates,
> times, exchanges, links, etc.)?
>
> For the casual or newbie contester who happened to show up in a
contest,
> it
> might make the difference between being there or being a no-show.
Isn't a
> habit formed after doing something as few as two or three times?
>
> 73,
> dale, kg5u
>
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>From ve4xt at mb.sympatico.ca Sun Jul 28 11:24:01 2002
From: ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca (Kelly Taylor)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
References: <LPBBJJHKFOOEGKEBKHOJCEKEEGAA.kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Message-ID: <000201c2364a$fe9ee060$0100a8c0@joe>
Heck of an idea!
Perhaps the robot engineers could add a subroutine that compiles a mailing
list from incoming e-mail submissions that could then be used (in late Oct.
for SS, for example) to shotgun mail the previous year's participants.
Nothing gets me thinking CQP more than the individual mailings from AD6E,
and we all know how successful CQP is.
Oh, and Jim, how long till FQP?
In all seriousness, though, this represents the kind of marketing savvy that
contesting needs.
Well done, Dale.
Kelly
ve4xt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 9:27 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
> I think the reminder article is fine as a reminder and as an enticement to
> non-contesters to try their hand.
>
> Personal contact might be more effective.
>
> What's the percentage these days of electronic log submissions these days?
> Pretty high, I would imagine. 70%? 80%? 90%?
>
> Is there a way these days to get the e-mail addresses from the contest's
> previous year's electronic log submissions and send an e-mail to them
about
> a week or two ahead of time to
> (1) thank them for their participation in last year's contest (maybe even
> remind them of their score and placing) and
> (2) to invite them to participate in this year's contest (provide dates,
> times, exchanges, links, etc.)?
>
> For the casual or newbie contester who happened to show up in a contest,
it
> might make the difference between being there or being a no-show. Isn't a
> habit formed after doing something as few as two or three times?
>
> 73,
> dale, kg5u
>
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>From g3xtt at lineone.net Sun Jul 28 19:12:18 2002
From: g3xtt@lineone.net (Donald Field)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Contest logs
Message-ID: <01d601c2365a$13eab2a0$52dc403e@field>
Another lively contest - I counted (from my own observations and the
Cluster) at least 189 IOTA groups active, so I suspect the actual number was
over 200. Conditions not too good, but the big multis were over 3,000 QSOs
at the end.
Logs have started to arrive, and I am already seeing a potential problem. I
have had several Cabrillo logs generated by CT, which were empty (no QSOs).
All that is in the file is a note saying CT doesn't support Cabrillo for the
IOTA Contest. I am surprised that people send logs without checking what
they contain but please, if you used CT, ensure you send a file with all the
required data (I believe the .ALL file should be OK).
73 Don G3XTT
IOTA Contest Manager
>From jfunk at adams.net Sun Jul 28 13:36:22 2002
From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] pre-contest e-mails
Message-ID: <004901c23666$88177d00$111b8ad8@adams.net>
K1TTT wrote:
""... But if
you really want to try to drag in the casual guys don't just send
reminders to log submitters. Go collect all the calls worked in a
contest from the logs (maybe make that all calls worked more than
once??) and look up email addresses from qrz, buckmaster, arrl
databases, etc and try to get the guys that didn't get interested enough
last year to send in a log back on the air.""
I actually did this the last two years for the Illinois QSO Party (coming up
October 20...mark your calendars....) and received a number of "Golly,
nobody ever invited me to a contest before" messages in return. The
sponsoring club, RAMS, has been good enough to send the logs to me after
they're done with them so I can do some analysis. If interested, check
their website: http://my.core.com/~jematz/rams.html
73, Jim N9JF
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Sun Jul 28 17:10:07 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: CQ-Contest digest, Vol 1 #295 - 1 msg
References: <200207281603.g6SG3ohF011634@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <3D444F9F.F6BC08D6@tampabay.rr.com>
:-)
K4OJ
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> From: "Kelly Taylor" <ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca>
> To: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
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> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
> Heck of an idea!
>
> Perhaps the robot engineers could add a subroutine that compiles a mailing
> list from incoming e-mail submissions that could then be used (in late Oct.
> for SS, for example) to shotgun mail the previous year's participants.
>
> Nothing gets me thinking CQP more than the individual mailings from AD6E,
> and we all know how successful CQP is.
>
> Oh, and Jim, how long till FQP?
>
> In all seriousness, though, this represents the kind of marketing savvy that
> contesting needs.
>
> Well done, Dale.
>
> Kelly
> ve4xt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 9:27 AM
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] WHAT'S THE BIG RUSH?
>
> >
> > I think the reminder article is fine as a reminder and as an enticement to
> > non-contesters to try their hand.
> >
> > Personal contact might be more effective.
> >
> > What's the percentage these days of electronic log submissions these days?
> > Pretty high, I would imagine. 70%? 80%? 90%?
> >
> > Is there a way these days to get the e-mail addresses from the contest's
> > previous year's electronic log submissions and send an e-mail to them
> about
> > a week or two ahead of time to
> > (1) thank them for their participation in last year's contest (maybe even
> > remind them of their score and placing) and
> > (2) to invite them to participate in this year's contest (provide dates,
> > times, exchanges, links, etc.)?
> >
> > For the casual or newbie contester who happened to show up in a contest,
> it
> > might make the difference between being there or being a no-show. Isn't a
> > habit formed after doing something as few as two or three times?
> >
> > 73,
> > dale, kg5u
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
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>From W1HIJCW at aol.com Sun Jul 28 18:02:32 2002
From: W1HIJCW@aol.com (W1HIJCW@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] A Real Breath of Fresh Air
Message-ID: <c3.265b6453.2a75b5e8@aol.com>
Friends, Competitors, Colleagues:
A couple of recent posts on the line-score thread mentioned the proposals
produced by a working group of our contest co-participants. One in particular
caught my attention by implying that a 21 page document was too long for the
"attention-span challenged". That prompted me to go get and read the document.
AND BOY AM I GLAD I DID!
As a community, we owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to these people who are
clearly knowledgable and competent writers.
I urge any and all of you who are even remotely interested in contesting, its
future, and its visibility to go and get that document, read it, digest it
and think about it. And most of all to use it as blue print for constructing
and carrying out the publicizing of contesting to the larger ham radio
community.
The location of the PDF file is:
http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf
Thanks to all the authors, it's a great job!
73 de Bill, W1HIJ/6
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>From wd3q at erols.com Mon Jul 29 02:27:44 2002
From: wd3q@erols.com (Eric Rosenberg)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020729010656.00a0f310@pop3.norton.antivirus>
My travel schedule has picked up considerably, and it looks like I'll
be off to places far and wide for the next 12 months or so. I'm
thinking that it might be fun to once again take an HF radio with me
once again -- I did this in the mid-1990's with a long-gone FT-890.
If I decide to buy a new radio for the road (I'm not there yet!), my
choices will likely be limited to the following four radios, two with
and two without VHF capabilities. All four radios have gotten good
reviews in QST, so it may be a matter of availability and price...the
TS-50 and K2 being at opposite sides of the range:
FT-100D and IC-706 MKIIG, both of which have VHF and UHF (no need to
take a 2m HT with me, too).
Elecraft K2 and Kenwood TS-50. Note I've never operated WRP, so the
thought of a using K2 is a bit intimidating.
Comments and thoughts are appreciated. Send them directly and I'll
summarize for those interested.
Thanks in advance and 73,
Eric W3DQ
Washington, DC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 29 10:00:48 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Russian RTTY - Claimed Scores 29Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207291600.g6TG0mc32277@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Russian RTTY - Claimed Scores 29Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cdma@simcom.ru
Mail logs to:
Russian RTTY Contest Manager
Yuri Katyutin, UA4LCQ
PO Box 1200
Ulyanovsk 432035
Russia
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOAB HP
VK4UC 294 2895 112 17 324,240
AA5AU 288 2190 77 18 168,630
WX4TM 193 1500 72 108,000
K4WW 150 1205 61 6 73,505 KCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOAB LP
PA5AT 289 1835 27 17 267,910
VE9DX 183 1445 86 12 124,270
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOSB/20 LP
F6FJE 190 1155 66 36 76,230
SV1XV 49 295 36 4 10,620
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOSB/20 QRP
WA6BOB 35 245 10 2 2,450
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Mon Jul 29 10:01:56 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IOTA Contest - Claimed Scores 29Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207291601.g6TG1uF32293@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IOTA Contest - Claimed Scores 29Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: hf.contests@rsgb.org.uk
Mail logs to:
RSGB IOTA Contest
PO Box 9
Potters Bar, Herts EN6 3RH
England
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
PI4HQ 1242 230 1151 276 24 7,464,006
OZ0RM(@OZ1ING) 1268 149 671 132 24 3,232,905 WWYC
K3WW 266 92 411 99 17 1,043,433 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)12CW HP
AA3B 341 116 0 0 7 346,956 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)12SSB HP
FM5GU 0 0 1210 129 10 845,982 The Pordenone Gangst
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)24Mixed LP
WN6K 59 37 65 46 16 130,476 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12CW HP
G4BUO 717 200 0 0 12 984,600
VE3KZ 537 111 0 0 12 415,251
F5IN 220 77 0 0 6 127,512 U.F.T.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12CW LP
T93Y 440 148 0 0 602,064 Sarajevo Contest Gro
F6IRF 308 137 0 0 12 448,812
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12Mixed HP
N2ED 363 64 100 64 8 472,059 FRC
VO1TA(VO1WET) 10 8 545 83 10 352,443
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12Mixed LP
G0MTN 288 66 382 133 12 942,066 WWYC
PA5AT 33 14 126 60 6 113,442
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12SSB HP
EA5DFV 0 0 528 95 10 381,900
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12SSB LP
W1DAD 0 0 220 102 12 219,096 YCCC
VE3BUC 0 0 63 40 2 29,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24CW HP
HB9CZF 507 213 0 0 18 1,065,213
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24CW LP
9A7P(9A6XX) 1011 244 0 0 24 1,840,980 WWYC
HB9ARF 339 140 0 0 490,140
W4SAA/P 748 86 0 0 21 340,560 FCG
KP4AH(WP3C) 512 63 0 0 13 169,344
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24Mixed HP
M6T(G4PIQ) 1125 168 1099 230 24 4,787,940
K9NW(@K9UWA) 548 146 534 135 24 2,473,362 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24SSB HP
VK2CZ 0 0 262 72 154,224
Operators:
K3WW AA3ZE,K3WW
OZ0RM OH3RM,OZ1AA,OZ1ING
PI4HQ HA1AG,ON4IA,ON5UM,ON6CC,ON6NL,PA7BT
>From tavan at tibco.com Mon Jul 29 10:31:28 2002
From: tavan@tibco.com (Rick Tavan)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020729010656.00a0f310@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <3D456DE0.8000407@tibco.com>
Hello, Eric. The K2/100 is a full-power, high performance, contest-grade
radio. Its receiver is better than the "big rigs" including my own
FT-1000MP. The QSK is outstanding as is the transmitted voice quality.
You can turn the power down to QRP levels wth a front-panel control and
the 100w amp is bypassed completely so the rig runs fine off batteries
at 0-10w. It weighs 5 pounds, fits into a corner of your suitcase and
runs fine off a 20A switching PS. Customer support via an Internet
reflector, Website, support staff and the principals themselves is so
far beyond anything available from any other vendor that it is really in
a class by itself. It is a kit in the finest Heathkit tradition but the
resulting product quality is far superior compared to current
competition. For those who lack the skills, interest or time to build,
there are professional builders available to help out. In the field, the
K2 set records on every band when Team Vertical took it to 6Y for the CQ
WW CW 2001, a bunch of single-band QRP entries in the same room. Then
the 100w version came out and three of them made half the total Q's in a
record-setting multi-multi from the same location in the 2002 CQ WPX CW
driving various KW amps. It is rapidly becoming the rig of choice for
expeditions and is a pleasure to operate at home. There is really no
comparison. Get it.
I have no financial interest in Elecraft but I do know the principals
and admire them greatly. They have reinvented ham radio equipment design
and provisioning.
Have fun on your travels!
73,
/Rick N6XI
Eric Rosenberg wrote:
> My travel schedule has picked up considerably, and it looks like I'll
> be off to places far and wide for the next 12 months or so. I'm
> thinking that it might be fun to once again take an HF radio with me
> once again -- I did this in the mid-1990's with a long-gone FT-890.
>
> If I decide to buy a new radio for the road (I'm not there yet!), my
> choices will likely be limited to the following four radios, two with
> and two without VHF capabilities. All four radios have gotten good
> reviews in QST, so it may be a matter of availability and price...the
> TS-50 and K2 being at opposite sides of the range:
>
> FT-100D and IC-706 MKIIG, both of which have VHF and UHF (no need to
> take a 2m HT with me, too).
>
> Elecraft K2 and Kenwood TS-50. Note I've never operated WRP, so the
> thought of a using K2 is a bit intimidating.
>
> Comments and thoughts are appreciated. Send them directly and I'll
> summarize for those interested.
>
> Thanks in advance and 73,
>
> Eric W3DQ
> Washington, DC
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
>
--
Richard M. Tavan
TIBCO Software Inc.
3307 Hillview Drive
Palo Alto, CA 94304-1213
tavan@tibco.com
n6xi@arrl.net
650-846-5214 Office
408-896-0476 Cell
>From wx3m at comcast.net Mon Jul 29 19:15:24 2002
From: wx3m@comcast.net (wx3m@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] in depth score (and log?) analysis using a spreadsheet
References: <000701c234ba$785fc960$ab755142@fpfzqlga>
Message-ID: <00d601c23723$86f9dc20$6501a8c0@donchisholm>
I think the idea of web-accessible line scores is an excellent idea.
On the ARRL scores page(s), the ability to sort the scores that you view is
really great. However, I dislike the HTML/Java interface. It is capable and
user-friendly, I just don't like it, and really for only three (trivial)
reasons:
1. It will only display 25 entries at a time.
2. It involves a lot of data being transmitted and received over your
internet connection.
3. You can only view one "page" at a time, unless you open multiple browser
windows.
I have a cable modem (and a pretty fast one, at that), and many others do,
so maybe #2 is a weak reason. However, somebody with a dial-up (or other)
connection might be concerned about the amount of time it takes to transfer
data back and forth repeatedly.
All that aside, there is another way to sort and view the data, using a
spreadsheet. The forms that are output by the web-page are essentially a
spreadsheet, just formatted into HTML and displayed in your browser. The raw
data that this "utility" uses to generate the sorted displays is available
for download. You can then import the data from this file into a spreadsheet
(Excel). Once in Excel, you can essentially do the same thing that the
web-page allows you to do. However, because the data and the program
manipulating the data are resident on your machine instead of communicating
everything over the 'net, you can work faster. In addition, you can view
all the entries at once, instead of 25 at a time, and create multiple
sheets, each sorted with different criteria, for faster, easier, and more
comprehensive analysis.
Here is how I do it:
1. At the bottom of the DEFAULT scores display list, under "download current
selection (x-records):" right click on the link "tab delimited" and save the
file to your hard drive. The default filename is download.txt. NOTE: When
you view the contest results under their default criteria on the web page,
it is using the entire database, sorted by score only. You will get the same
download options if you enter criteria in the "SELECT ENTRIES TO LIST" or
"CHOOSE SORT ORDER" boxes, but if you have chosen something other than "ALL"
you may not get the entire database.
2. Open Microsoft Excel. You may have or use a different spreadsheet
program, but this is the only one I use and, therefore, the only one I know
HOW to use.
3. Choose FILE --> OPEN --> choose "ALL FILES" from the file types box, then
choose the directory and filename you downloaded from the ARRL web site.
(Remember, the default was download.txt.) Click "OPEN".
4. The next screen (Text Import Wizard 1 of 3) asks how you would like the
data/text formatted when it gets to the spreadsheet. Choose "delimited" and
"start import at ROW 2". Click "next". (I do this because ROW 1 is the
column headers. I really don't need to see them and it sometimes makes the
column widths weird. In addition, they are useless when sorting the data.)
5. The next screen (Text Import Wizard 2 of 3) allows you to choose the
delimiters in the file and to preview what it will look like. Under
"delimiters" check "tabs" and click "next". NOTE: This is because we
downloaded a "tab delimited" file. If we downloaded a "comma delimited"
file, we would choose that option at this time.
6. The next screen (Text Import Wizard 3 of 3) asks you to format the cells
(based on column) to accept the particular type of data in that column. Just
click "finish" and it will choose "general" for all of them. Numbers will
automatically be converted to numeric values and treated as numbers, calls
as text, dates as dates, etc.
You should now have a recognizable display of callsigns and scores. Save
this file as a Microsoft Excel Workbook (*.xls) using whatever name you
want.
To sort the results:
1. "Select" the entire sheet. This is done by clicking the blank box above
ROW 1 and to the left of COLUMN 1. The entire sheet should turn purple.
2. Under menu item "DATA", choose sort. Choose which columns you wish to
sort by, and in what order, then sort. I use descending, that way the
highest values are at the top instead of the bottom, and resemble the way
scores have been traditionally published in QST.
Voila! You can now sort and view the scores a lot faster than through the
web-based interface. In addition, you can create several sheets in a
workbook, each one being sorted by a different criteria. You can compare and
analyze very thoroughly, very easily.
To create multiple sheets in a workbook, each sorted by different criteria:
1. choose EDIT --> MOVE OR COPY SHEET...
2. check the box for "create copy"
3. choose which sheet you would like it to appear before (not very
important)
4. click OK
You now have an exact replica of the original data. You can choose to sort
this data by different criteria, so you can quickly switch between the two
for comparison. If you right-click on the tab (at the bottom of the sheet)
for the name of the sheet, you can rename each sheet based on its sort
order.
After the 2002 Michigan QSO party, I did this with my log for some analysis.
I created 5 sheets, sorted thus:
1. UTC
2. CALL
3. QTH
4. BAND then MODE
5. MODE then QTH
I was able to (at a glance) figure out how many times we worked particular
stations, sections, etc. In addition, I could check for mistakes (see
below).
I hope that somebody might be able to use this information to analyze the
ARRL line scores to learn about their own performance and improve it for
future contesting.
73
Don
WX3M
P. S. This can also be done on a Cabrillo (et al) log . . .
You can import it the same way, and sort by time, call, exchange, etc, to
analyze who you worked, where, when, how often, and so forth.
I suppose this raises an ethical issue, though. Those who subscribe to the
opinion that "when the contest is over, you cannot edit the log" would not
approve of this. However, I do not entirely subscribe to this school of
thought. If there is a 30 (15?) day period to turn in you log, then it seems
to me that the time is given to "check for mistakes" and clean it up.
The level of analysis described above is very useful for checking for
innocent keyboard boo-boos or other errors. For instance, after the 2002
Michigan QSO party, I had 20 separate files - one from each county W8UE and
I worked. I merged them all into one spreadsheet for comparison. I could
sort by callsign and make sure we got all of the QTHs correct. If we worked
AD1C nineteen times (which we did), but one of the times we logged his QTH
as MS instead of MA, it would be easy to spot and fix. This could be caused
by keyboard error or LID ears, but I think it would be OK to fix the
mistake. After all, my reference is my own log, created during the contest.
If an operator looks up a callsign on www.qrz.com to confirm a QTH, grid, or
other vital QSO information during analysis after the contest (or even
during the contest), s/he is using a forum outside of the contest and this
is, in my eyes, way beyond the spirit of honest competition.
>From ku8e1 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 29 12:59:12 2002
From: ku8e1@yahoo.com (Jeffrey Clarke)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <3D456DE0.8000407@tibco.com>
Message-ID: <20020729185912.1360.qmail@web10502.mail.yahoo.com>
I have an IC706MKIIG and it works pretty good for such a small
package.
I use mine for mostly mobile contesting and I would suggest if you are
going to do any CW contesting that you get the CW filter. It's probably
not as good as the top of the line contest radios but I think it's the
best of all the small radios ( TS-50 etc...) that are out there....
73's, Jeff
--- Rick Tavan <tavan@tibco.com> wrote:
> Hello, Eric. The K2/100 is a full-power, high performance,
> contest-grade
> radio. Its receiver is better than the "big rigs" including my own
> FT-1000MP. The QSK is outstanding as is the transmitted voice
> quality.
> You can turn the power down to QRP levels wth a front-panel control
> and
> the 100w amp is bypassed completely so the rig runs fine off
> batteries
> at 0-10w. It weighs 5 pounds, fits into a corner of your suitcase and
>
> runs fine off a 20A switching PS. Customer support via an Internet
> reflector, Website, support staff and the principals themselves is so
>
> far beyond anything available from any other vendor that it is really
> in
> a class by itself. It is a kit in the finest Heathkit tradition but
> the
> resulting product quality is far superior compared to current
> competition. For those who lack the skills, interest or time to
> build,
> there are professional builders available to help out. In the field,
> the
> K2 set records on every band when Team Vertical took it to 6Y for the
> CQ
> WW CW 2001, a bunch of single-band QRP entries in the same room. Then
>
> the 100w version came out and three of them made half the total Q's
> in a
> record-setting multi-multi from the same location in the 2002 CQ WPX
> CW
> driving various KW amps. It is rapidly becoming the rig of choice for
>
> expeditions and is a pleasure to operate at home. There is really no
> comparison. Get it.
>
> I have no financial interest in Elecraft but I do know the principals
>
> and admire them greatly. They have reinvented ham radio equipment
> design
> and provisioning.
>
> Have fun on your travels!
>
> 73,
>
> /Rick N6XI
>
> Eric Rosenberg wrote:
>
> > My travel schedule has picked up considerably, and it looks like
> I'll
> > be off to places far and wide for the next 12 months or so. I'm
> > thinking that it might be fun to once again take an HF radio with
> me
> > once again -- I did this in the mid-1990's with a long-gone FT-890.
> >
> > If I decide to buy a new radio for the road (I'm not there yet!),
> my
> > choices will likely be limited to the following four radios, two
> with
> > and two without VHF capabilities. All four radios have gotten good
> > reviews in QST, so it may be a matter of availability and
> price...the
> > TS-50 and K2 being at opposite sides of the range:
> >
> > FT-100D and IC-706 MKIIG, both of which have VHF and UHF (no need
> to
> > take a 2m HT with me, too).
> >
> > Elecraft K2 and Kenwood TS-50. Note I've never operated WRP, so
> the
> > thought of a using K2 is a bit intimidating.
> >
> > Comments and thoughts are appreciated. Send them directly and I'll
>
> > summarize for those interested.
> >
> > Thanks in advance and 73,
> >
> > Eric W3DQ
> > Washington, DC
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> Richard M. Tavan
> TIBCO Software Inc.
> 3307 Hillview Drive
> Palo Alto, CA 94304-1213
>
> tavan@tibco.com
> n6xi@arrl.net
> 650-846-5214 Office
> 408-896-0476 Cell
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
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>From john-k1rc at juno.com Mon Jul 29 16:45:45 2002
From: john-k1rc@juno.com (john-k1rc@juno.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MSC Smart Keyer III vs AEA MM-3
Message-ID: <20020729.154545.-468455.1.john-k1rc@juno.com>
Hi all,
I have an AEA MM-3 keyer which is serving me
very well. (Has yet to give me any trouble in years
of contest and general use)
I was surfing around to see what was new out there
and came across the MSC Smart Keyer III.
Spec wise, it looks pretty comparable to the MM-3
and I was wondering what users think of the Smart
Keyer, and if it would be worth "upgrading" to
the Smart Keyer from the MM-3.
I've never seen any Smart Keyers for sale on any
of the swap pages, so can I assume the owners
are "hanging" on to the Smart Keyers as are
the MM-3 owners (like myself)?
Tell me what you think about either unit.
Thanks for your input.
73,
John K1RC
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>From pa5mw at home.nl Mon Jul 29 22:52:07 2002
From: pa5mw@home.nl (M. van Wijk)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020729010656.00a0f310@pop3.norton.antivirus>
<3D456DE0.8000407@tibco.com>
Message-ID: <01d201c23739$6b82e840$0b01a8c0@home.nl>
. It is rapidly becoming the rig of choice for
> expeditions and is a pleasure to operate at home. There is really no
> comparison. Get it.
I will second that!
'73 Mark, PA5MW
K2 #2036 (& FT1000MP + Inrad mods, filters etc.....)
>From TOMK5RC at aol.com Mon Jul 29 20:05:39 2002
From: TOMK5RC@aol.com (TOMK5RC@aol.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] K5KG Recuperating
Message-ID: <15b.11ac2bec.2a772443@aol.com>
George, K5KG (J75KG) underwent brain surgery at the Mayo Clinic this morning.
The surgery was successful. He is awake and alert and complaining. He will
not be out of ICU for at least a day. When I get room information I will pass
it along. He will be in MN for the next ten days.
Well-wishers might want to drop him an email at GeorgeK5KG@aol.com.
Tom, K5RC
PS - He was not able to convince the surgeons to implant a Heil headset,
while they were boring a hole in his head.
>From k4oj at tampabay.rr.com Mon Jul 29 22:11:42 2002
From: k4oj@tampabay.rr.com (Jim White)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
Message-ID: <3D45E7CE.1DA3B5DE@tampabay.rr.com>
FOR OVER A YEAR NOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT EVERYBODY GOES TO THE cq ww
SITE AND THERE IS NO REASON WHY I SHOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM...
This past I changed by browser for Explorer to Navigator and I still get
the following message
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.
when I try and go to
http://www.cqww.com/
...what the heck am I doing wrong - I haven't seen CQ's WW site in so
long I do not even remember what it looks like!
Can someone offer me a better answer other than "you should be able to,
everyone else can"
Thanks,
Jim, K4OJ
>From SunGodX at cox.net Mon Jul 29 20:28:12 2002
From: SunGodX@cox.net (Dennis Younker NE6I)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] AEA CK-2 Manual
References: <20020729.154545.-468455.1.john-k1rc@juno.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c23770$c15f2c60$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>
Does anyone have a manual for an AEA CK-2 memory keyer? I would be happy to
cover copying costs, or perhaps someone has an electronic copy?
Thanks, Dennis, NE6I
>From k2av at contesting.com Tue Jul 30 00:29:00 2002
From: k2av@contesting.com (Guy Olinger, K2AV)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
References: <3D45E7CE.1DA3B5DE@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <002f01c23779$3f124e50$0500a8c0@swift>
That URL works fine on IE. Try removing the trailing "/", e.g.
http://www.cqww.com
Might be a Navigator-ism and is interpreting that as an FTP access to
root (/) at CQWW.
73&GL, Guy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim White" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 9:11 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
> FOR OVER A YEAR NOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT EVERYBODY GOES TO THE cq
ww
> SITE AND THERE IS NO REASON WHY I SHOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM...
>
> This past I changed by browser for Explorer to Navigator and I still
get
> the following message
>
>
> Forbidden
>
> You don't have permission to access / on this server.
>
>
> when I try and go to
>
> http://www.cqww.com/
>
>
> ...what the heck am I doing wrong - I haven't seen CQ's WW site in
so
> long I do not even remember what it looks like!
>
> Can someone offer me a better answer other than "you should be able
to,
> everyone else can"
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim, K4OJ
> _______________________________________________
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> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
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>From ghoward at kent.edu Tue Jul 30 11:36:15 2002
From: ghoward@kent.edu (Geoff Howard)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PJ2 Stn Avail -- CQ/RJ RTTY
Message-ID: <3.0.32.20020730103554.0216cab0@pop.kent.edu>
Hi,
As a result of a cancellation, the PJ2 "Signal Point" contest station on
Curacao is again available for the CQ/RJ Worldwide RTTY DX Contest on
28-29 September.
Full details are available at http://asgard.kent.edu/ccc or from me by E-mail.
Thanks and 73,
- Geoff, W0CG, for the Caribbean Contesting Consortium
>From k4vud at hotmail.com Tue Jul 30 15:53:14 2002
From: k4vud@hotmail.com (Charles Harpole)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Sending in email Cabrillo logs--pffuth
Message-ID: <LAW2-F22mLng8FSZDhd000010d5@hotmail.com>
A nice ham converted my IARU contest logs to Cabrillo for me . I sent them
in by emai to IARUHF@iaru.org as per instructions.
First I got back an automated statement saying that the site was not
accepting such messages.
A little later I got another automated message from ARRL saying my log was
in there, but there are problems... the ROBOT does not accept the HQ
letters instead of numbers! This is way too much trouble, still, even with
help. I like to operate radios, not computers. A pox on the whole thing
today. 73,
Charles Harpole
k4vud@hotmail.com
_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
>From coopers at odl.co.uk Tue Jul 30 17:17:03 2002
From: coopers@odl.co.uk (Cooper Stewart)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
Message-ID: <4A590B1FC64ED511B46400B0D0E184F995460E@exchange.odl.co.uk>
I would report this to your ISP as a support call. There may be a local DNS
or reverse DNS problem with their DNS database. As you say, everyone else
will just report it as "It works for me". I've seen this before with
specific sites and we had to chase all the way to a corrupt DNS table in
Canada before we found the problem.
Stewart
GM4AFF/GM0F
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim White [mailto:k4oj@tampabay.rr.com]
Sent: 30 July 2002 02:12
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
FOR OVER A YEAR NOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT EVERYBODY GOES TO THE cq ww
SITE AND THERE IS NO REASON WHY I SHOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM...
This past I changed by browser for Explorer to Navigator and I still get
the following message
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.
when I try and go to
http://www.cqww.com/
...what the heck am I doing wrong - I haven't seen CQ's WW site in so
long I do not even remember what it looks like!
Can someone offer me a better answer other than "you should be able to,
everyone else can"
Thanks,
Jim, K4OJ
_______________________________________________
CQ-Contest mailing list
CQ-Contest@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>From VE3ZT at rac.ca Tue Jul 30 12:20:11 2002
From: VE3ZT@rac.ca (Paul-VE3ZT)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] DXpedition/Portable Radio Recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020729010656.00a0f310@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020730111740.00bc6e80@pop6.sympatico.ca>
Anybody using the Elecraft K2 for mobile use as well?
73, Paul
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>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:37:42 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301537.g6UFbgk01024@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IARU HF - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 13, 2002
E-mail logs to: IARUHF@iaru.org
Mail logs to:
IARU HF Championship
IARU International Secretariat
Box 310905
Newington, CT 06111
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
HQ HP
S50HQ 4493 4185 416 24 11,710,400
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
HQ LP
P41HQ 1708 1492 209 24 3,187,668
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA M/S HP
N0NI 1148 794 212 24 1,666,532
W4G(@N4PN) 2029 0 216 24 1,560,168 FCG
N3ME 1502 0 253 24 1,556,456 PVRC
KB1H 1136 798 201 23 1,536,780 YCCC
N5YA 1229 272 203 24 1,204,805 NTCC
NO9Z 0 1744 172 23 1,074,688 SMC
K1TTT 1292 0 214 24 1,037,900 YCCC
AC6T(@N6VR) 1130 140 192 23 940,032 SCCC
WC4H 835 515 191 22 779,089 FCG
K0RH 534 748 158 24 744,812
K8UP 0 753 155 22 353,555 MRRC
K8LX 456 0 169 6 304,538
W7GG 362 300 44 9 265,742
AD5CA 0 294 89 7 88,288
K2QMF 220 36 81 5 73,872 YCCC
W8CAR 209 21 49 43,218 NCC
K3WW 394 263 140 24 1 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA M/S LP
KY1B(@WO1N) 591 0 122 22 245,220 YCCC
W0NA 121 103 34 47,002 Kansas City DX Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO CW HP
KL9A(@KL7Y) 3134 0 208 24 2,751,424 WWYC
W1KM 2233 0 232 24 2,120,000 YCCC
W4AN(W4PA) 2259 0 252 24 2,067,912 TCG
K3CR(LZ4AX) 1925 0 246 24 1,894,446
W1WEF 2105 0 215 24 1,786,435 YCCC
KT1V 2076 0 208 24 1,782,560 YCCC
K5GN(@W5KU) 1854 0 242 24 1,730,542
K8DX 2185 0 187 24 1,680,195 NCC
W0UA(@K0RF) 1897 0 212 23 1,638,124
K9NW(@K9UWA) 1851 0 220 24 1,593,900 MRRC
WC1M 1921 0 197 24 1,495,033 YCCC
KT3Y 1761 0 219 24 1,475,403 PVRC
AA3B 1708 0 214 24 1,341,352 FRC
N5DX 1703 0 187 24 1,278,893
K4RO 1837 0 175 24 1,152,725 TCG
W5WMU 1465 0 188 24 1,060,508
NB1B(@K1VR) 1314 0 203 1,015,406 YCCC
K4OAQ 1314 0 176 21 969,408
K8GL 1096 0 213 20 915,900 MRRC
W8MJ 1350 0 173 23 900,292 MRRC
K2SX 1102 116 19 877,800 Order of Boiled OWLs
K7NV 1248 0 177 21 838,803 NCCC
N8BJQ 1144 0 187 21 715,836
W2YC 832 0 219 645,174 FRC
K9JY 1079 0 147 19 596,673 SMC
WT9U 1194 0 135 19 574,830 SMC
WB0O 926 0 159 17 571,446
K5YAA 837 0 162 13 525,852 OkDX
K4XU 1034 0 125 16 515,250
KM5G 868 0 147 18 507,738
N2GC 713 0 180 13 471,060 YCCC
N3RS 800 0 153 9 463,590 FRC
N8PW 898 0 129 23 429,312 NCC
K9TM 901 0 109 13 370,927 MRRC
K8IR 559 0 155 18 299,305
K5KA 644 0 122 15 285,724 OkDX
N1RR 366 0 155 8 206,770
K5XR(W5ASP) 402 0 100 158,300
N4GG 362 0 110 7 147,510 PVRC
N7YW 404 0 101 11 145,036
W8GN 256 0 38 12 39,976 NCC
AI9T 102 51 15,810
W4NZ 150 0 31 2 15,624 TCG
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO CW LP
NY1S 748 0 158 18 383,466
WD4AHZ 739 0 155 19 377,115 FCG
W9WI 781 0 131 17 320,819 TCG
KV8Q 685 0 147 24 290,619
K8AJS(K8AJSQ) 558 0 143 19 252,538 Wayne Amateur Radio
K2ONP 656 0 102 15 220,320 HUDSON VALLEY CONTES
WB4TDH 416 0 139 11 207,110
KN4Y 300 0 121 15 131,404 FCG
N2GA 435 0 76 10 114,988
W6ZL 268 0 84 10 84,336
W3CP 223 0 106 16 83,846 PVRC
W5AC(KD5KQN) 312 0 51 10 53,091
W6SJ 200 0 72 17 43,848
NT6K 200 0 66 6 40,260 NCCC
N2IJ 173 0 66 6 26,730
W4YA 108 0 62 19,964 FCG
K6RIM 112 0 439 2 17,121 NCCC
AE0Q 150 0 44 15,400 Grand Mesa
N0HF 99 0 14 3 10,360 Grand Mesa
W4BCG 75 0 40 6 9,400 TCG
WA6BOB 76 0 13 2 6,510
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO Mixed HP
K3ZO 1232 1132 230 24 2,250,320 PVRC
N2NU 1192 1110 238 24 2,181,984 FRC
W9RE 1328 1194 222 24 2,130,534 SMC
N9AG(@N8NR) 1347 404 260 23 1,735,911
N0AV 1134 834 206 23 1,584,552
K4AB 574 1389 199 24 1,377,279 SECC
K6XX 1264 247 179 23 1,030,682 NCCC
AA4GA 811 388 194 24 770,180 SECC
K1VUT 843 413 189 24 742,392 YANKEE CLIPPER CONTE
NR3X(N4YDU) 668 362 183 19 627,690 PVRC
N2ED 660 258 146 12 447,052 FRC
W4SAA 626 71 186 22 376,092 FCG
K6KM(K2KW) 626 158 115 20 352,130 NCCC
K4IU 403 260 144 290,016 MWA
K0OU 396 104 122 8 211,792 Kansas City DX Club
NA4M 129 300 117 13 170,118 CTDXCC
K6LRN 315 55 117 17 157,248 NCCC
K0EJ 414 113 88 5 156,376 TCG
K7ABV 365 123 94 7 123,234
K8MR 194 84 105 118,230
N3GJ(@K3MJW) 231 57 94 12 110,544
K1JE 180 108 54 7 91,260 YCCC
KD2HE 203 0 65 36,465
N6WIN 95 61 47 6 22,654 SCCC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO Mixed LP
K8GU 372 156 154 22 311,388 MRRC
WA1Z 390 255 160 23 297,120
N6TW 439 213 129 18 290,250 SCCC
W1DAD 165 498 157 20 286,211 YCCC
W0ETT 472 148 133 17 267,197 Grand Mesa
K1HT 399 123 139 9 245,752 YCCC
WN6K 344 338 91 15 219,310 SCCC
KI7Y 389 89 114 16 175,788 WVDXC
WK6I 163 167 115 16 128,455 SCCC
N1LW 194 112 100 12 101,200 YCCC
K0UK 163 135 105 7 100,065 Grand Mesa
WN3VAW 66 139 77 12 65,087 Wireless Association
K4WW 200 50 56 6 47,264 KCG
W4IDX 230 23 67 5 46,297 PVRC
K6OWL 148 12 70 4 36,820
AA4LR 45 80 44 8 16,676 SECC
W0AR 69 17 31 7,378 Kansas City DX Club
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO Mixed QRP
WA0VBW 67 242 119 18 129,115 MWA
OH/W7YAQ 273 27 107 72,653
K8ZT 163 43 68 46,512
W6RCL/7 68 50 186 8 13,020
WB6BWZ 86 29 41 13 10,701 SECC
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO SSB HP
WB9Z 0 2032 194 23 1,511,260 SMC
K6NA(N6ED) 0 1825 177 23 1,179,705 SCCC
W4WTB 0 1094 146 18 615,098 Carolina DX Associat
KK1L 0 1313 139 22 547,521 YCCC
KI7WX 0 1086 125 12 523,250 PVRC
KE9S 0 997 150 23 457,500 SMC
N3HBX 0 1029 113 24 430,643 PVRC
K7XZ(K1MY) 0 921 121 13 415,998
K9ES 0 766 152 17 330,448 FCG
KC0CZI 0 438 62 11 81,952
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO SSB LP
NQ4U 0 235 49 8 81,498 TCG
WN4M 0 250 86 71,552 TCG
W2RDS 0 232 90 70,920
K4LOG 0 54 30 7 4,800
W6ZZZ 0 39 22 2,662 NCCC
AB0MV 0 10 7 252 Grand Mesa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
USA SO SSB QRP
N3GXY 0 140 64 15 25,152
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA M/S HP
RF9C(@RK9CWW) 1626 1013 286 24 3,277,274 URAL CONTEST GROUP
S53O 1417 1009 263 2,376,731
LZ9W 2448 0 246 2,300,000
LY1YK 875 1174 293 2,179,334 Kaunas University of
RL3A(@RK3AWL) 1148 1432 220 24 2,093,300
M5ZAP 1061 1183 221 24 1,950,546
J75KG 1654 661 192 24 1,776,768 FCG
EA5DFV 555 1556 211 24 1,651,919
IU2R 1089 861 228 24 1,637,040 ARI Brescia DX Group
SN8V(@SP8YMM) 628 797 224 24 1,166,816
IO4T 448 751 226 24 1,139,718
VE7RAC(@VE7UF) 1382 414 176 24 1,119,008 BCDX
DF0RU 775 663 227 22 1,116,031 Berlin-DX-Group
OL5Q 884 437 206 987,152
M2Z 0 972 139 24 450,360 South Dorset Radio S
M4U(@G0RGH) 125 592 151 24 351,075 HARIG - Harwich Amat
AL1G 357 648 80 21 269,120
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Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO CW HP
P3F(@5B4AGN) 2844 0 248 23 3,286,248
YT6A 2517 0 278 24 2,756,920 SKY CC
9A8A 2030 0 291 24 2,242,446 Croatian CC
RA9JR 2011 245 24 2,187,115 SRR
UT7QF 1934 0 316 24 2,113,408
PJ2E(N1UR) 2211 0 198 24 2,067,034 YCCC
EO1I(UT1IA) 2014 0 284 24 1,932,620
9H1ZA 1834 0 270 1,756,890
VE3NE 1795 0 199 24 1,477,575
RD4M(UA4LU) 1616 0 257 20 1,418,640
OM0WR 1401 0 218 24 1,159,106
DK0ALC(DL1CW) 1556 0 216 24 1,152,144 RR DX
F5IN 1570 0 191 20 1,138,360 U.F.T.
4U1ITU(HB9DTM) 1715 172 17 1,077,924 IARC 4U1ITU
DL3YBM 1233 0 247 24 1,050,491 RR DX
GW7X(GW3NJW) 1344 0 188 24 916,876 Contest Cambria
XM3XAX(VE3XAX) 922 0 134 21 397,980
7J1AAI(W1NN) 658 0 115 14 332,115
IK0HBN 576 0 199 15 314,022
DH7KU 550 0 66 16 134,640 DK0UN University Rad
HB9CZF 332 0 83 6 86,486
Z32AF 129 0 74 9,546 SECC
Z39Z(Z32AF) 59 0 12 2,244 Z39Z Contest Club
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO CW LP
OK2PP 1090 0 243 18 882,576
DL1EFD 1088 0 203 22 706,440 RR DX
DL5YYM 842 0 220 24 591,800 BCC
VE9DX 741 0 180 471,780
OH/W6YA 770 0 159 354,570
VE3YDX(RW4WM) 719 0 143 22 348,205 Russian Contest Club
HB9ARF 723 0 169 345,605
OH9XX(OH3XR) 704 0 152 328,624 CCF
VE3IAY 638 0 134 309,272
ON5ZO 550 0 130 238,420 WWYC
LY2XW 512 0 147 226,674
ON5UM 373 0 114 10 155,610
OZ0RS 369 0 124 137,020
ZC4BS(G4KIV) 630 0 43 8 125,302
VA3WN 343 0 58 62,308
M0BEX 233 0 50 41,050 CDXC (UK)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO CW QRP
OM6RM 829 0 181 22 451,233
VE3NZ 114 0 27 15 8,802
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO Mixed HP
UA9AM 1090 950 313 24 2,743,132 URAL CONTEST GROUP
RK4FF 1594 846 325 24 2,637,700
9A5K 2188 0 261 23 2,284,794
VY2SS(K6LA) 1914 1020 177 24 2,212,677 SCCC
LY2CY 1280 732 260 24 1,904,240 Lithuanian DX
OL8R(OK1FCJ) 1187 598 249 24 1,560,981
OM5A(OM3LA) 751 735 245 17 1,383,515
VA3NA(@VE3SY) 1217 429 192 23 1,284,288
OH4U(OZ1AA) 1393 276 199 23 1,183,055 WWYC
UY5ZZ 991 304 123 956,032
VE3ANX 675 855 132 19 803,748
UA9FM 666 354 166 11 761,940 UCG
E21EIC(@HS1CHB) 412 390 143 15 463,606 HSDXA
OD5/OK1MU 410 638 27 8 402,327
XE2AC 225 598 90 8 257,760
VE3KZ 85 50 2 14 1,350
G4FAL 80 56 1 16 136
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO Mixed LP
ZC4DW(G0DEZ) 972 399 190 21 1,147,790 Chiltern DX Club
PY8AZT 529 0 168 22 364,056
VE4YU 360 232 61 19 270,750
VE3MQW 307 223 149 17 264,028
9A6XX(@9A7P) 700 0 105 12 254,520 WWYC
VE3BUC 280 230 114 17 215,004
DJ9AO 320 193 116 174,812 WWYC
SM4DHF 246 46 58 8 60,736
VA3PL 138 117 76 51,148 Polish Amateur Radio
SV1DNW 132 58 84 12 43,008
PU7EEL 128 24 43 36,480
LZ9R(LZ3YY) 812 358 207 22 713
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO Mixed QRP
DJ1YFK 337 5 116 12 122,960 WWYC
DF1DX 141 114 92 13 71,300 RR DX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CW Q Ph Q Mults hr Score Club
Non-USA SO SSB HP
P40B(P43P) 0 2565 190 23 2,342,130 Other (specify when
LU1NDC 0 1310 204 22 1,212,168
RN4LP 1505 251 24 1,175,433
LT0H(LU3HY) 0 966 153 16 664,938
FM5GU 0 1492 99 10 609,246
S57UN(@S52ZW) 430 27 5 117,432 SCC
VK2CZ 0 252 62 23 62,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Non-USA SO SSB LP
AY4DX(LU4DX) 0 638 159 419,124
SV1DKL 0 683 183 18 416,325
9A7ZZ 0 650 90 395,680 Croatian CC
OK2A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
OK6A(OK2INW) 0 506 115 12 190,325 WWYC
PA0KHS 0 373 1237 162,047
DL4RCK 286 72 8 98,412 BCC
VE7UQ 0 268 82 76,424
Operators:
AC6T AC6T,N6VR
AD5CA AD5CA,KC5YKX
AL1G AL1G,KL7FH
DF0RU DH2UHF,DK3WW,DL1AXL,DL7BY,DL7UBA,DL7UFP,DL7UTM
EA5DFV EA5AER,EA5DFV,EA5ON,EC5CPL
IO4T IK4RQJ,IK4VET,IK4XCL,IK4ZHH,IZ4DIJ
IU2R I2CZQ,IK2BCP,IK2EAD,IK2GSN,IK2SAU
J75KG J75KG/K5KG,J79MM/NA2U
K0RH K0RH,N0NB,W0NXS
K1TTT K1TTT,NU1P,W1TO,W3SM
K8UP K8KHZ,K8UP
KB1H K1EBY,KB1H,N1XS,NB1U
KY1B K1TWF,KB1PZ,KY1B,WO1N
LY1YK LY2CO,LY2FY,LY2UF,LY3CI
LZ9W LZ1UQ,LZ1YQ,LZ1ZD,LZ2CJ,LZ2HM,LZ3FN
M2Z G0VHS,M5RIC
M4U 2E1XJR,G0DVJ,G4FTP,G4WHK,G7HOW,M0CGE,M0NIQ
M5ZAP M0TTT,M5ZAP
N0NI K0KD,N0AC,N0NI,W0FLS,WO0V
N3ME N3ME,W3UR
N5YA AD5Q,N5KR,N5YA,OH7WV
NO9Z KB9UWU,KX9X,NO9Z,W9SZ
P3F 5B4AGN,G3ZEM,ZC4ZM
P41HQ AJ9C,KE9I,N9LAH
RF9C RA9CMO,UA9CDC,UA9CIR
RL3A RA9CO/3,RV3BA,RW3FO,RX3DCX,UA3ASZ
S53O S51RJ,S53O
SN8V SP8ARY,SP8LBK
W0AR AB0X,K0LW,KB0MZE,KB0U,KG0UA,KG0UT,N0TT,N0UF
W0NA AB0X,AE9B,K0VBU,KB0VVT,KC0DLM,KD4CHM,KF0RS,
N0SZE,W0ZAP
W4G KB4ET,N4OX,N4PN,NF4A
W7GG K7ZUM,KC7TWZ,W7GG
WC4H AD4Z,WC4H
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:39:50 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301539.g6UFdoV01033@localhost.localdomain>
2002 NAQP RTTY - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 20, 2002
E-mail logs to: rttynaqp@ncjweb.com
Mail logs to:
Jay Townsend, WS7I
Post Office Box 644
Spokane, WA 99210
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/2 LP
N0AC(@N0NI) 501 177 12 88,677
W6YX 446 156 10 69,576 NCCC
W1GZ 252 112 10 28,224
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Single Op LP
AA5AU 454 172 10 78,088
K4WW 397 153 10 60,751 KCG
VA3DX 388 147 11 58,200
WX4TM 359 148 10 53,280
K4GMH 367 145 10 53,215
W1ZT 373 134 10 49,982 YCCC
KI6DY 348 136 10 47,328
N5ZM 309 145 10 44,805
KE4KWE 298 145 10 43,210
W1SRD(@K6IDX) 332 128 10 42,496 NCCC
KC4HW 286 127 10 36,322
NY1S 301 118 10 35,518
NA4M 283 124 10 35,092 CTDXCC
W0ETC 266 128 10 34,048 TCG
AF4Z(DON) 274 128 10 32,880
9A5W(@9A1A) 301 107 10 32,207
WB4EQS 259 124 32,116
N2WK 273 115 9 31,395
AI9T 251 123 10 30,873
W4UK 267 108 10 28,836
K7ZUM 241 118 7 28,438 WVDXC
N1NB 240 105 8 25,200
K4PX 225 111 10 24,975
K6HGF 227 107 10 24,289
W4BCG 222 107 9 23,754 TCG
K8IR 199 110 10 21,890
W8UL 208 104 9 21,632
K5NZ 201 107 6 21,507 TCG MOON DOGS
K6XT 213 98 9 20,874
W6ZL(BIGWAVE) 213 96 10 20,448
VE3IAY 199 100 10 19,900
W7CT 220 87 19,580 Utah Contest Club
N8YYS 190 101 19,190
VA3PC 191 100 9 19,100
KD8FS 195 97 5 18,915
LP7H(LU9HS) 227 76 10 17,252
K3FH 176 98 9 17,248
WA6BOB 183 81 6 15,921
VE3BUC 174 86 7 14,964
IT9BLB 186 78 10 14,508 TIKIRRIKI CONTEST CL
VE9DX 152 88 8 13,376
K5AM 169 78 4 13,182
WA1Z 171 77 9 13,167
N4CW/1 154 83 9 12,782
K1XX 161 78 9 12,090
IK0HBN 150 57 10 8,550
WB0O 110 71 2 7,810
VA3WN 116 59 7 6,844
KI5DR 110 56 8 6,160 CTDXCC
K3WW 100 50 3 5,000 FRC
KS0M 88 54 4,698
K5PI 77 50 3 3,850 CTDXCC
GU0SUP 75 37 8 2,775
W5CTV 61 31 5 1,891 TCG
K9SZ 48 33 1,584
K6OWL 46 34 3 1,564
XE2AC 42 27 3 1,134
F6FJE 24 23 6 552
N5ZC 22 15 1 330
PA5AT 18 11 1 198
Operators:
N0AC K0WHV,N0AC,N0HR,N0NI
W1GZ N1MGO,WN1E
W6YX K6ENT,N6DE,W6ZZZ
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:40:30 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301540.g6UFeUY01044@localhost.localdomain>
2002 CQWW VHF - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cqvhf@cqww.com
Mail logs to:
CQ VHF Contest
25 Newbridge Road
Hicksville, NY 11801
USA
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All Multi-Op LP
N1LDY 268 66 15 17,688
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K1TEO 285 96 6 37,824
KB8U 227 99 17 30,888
K3DNE 167 69 10 15,732 PVRC
K3ZO 183 67 11 14,874 PVRC
K8CC 130 72 7 12,240 MRRC
N8BJQ 116 58 12 8,642 SOUTHWEST OHIO DX AS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE3KZ 126 66 9,570 Ontario VHF Associat
VE2ZP 54 31 8 2,232 Capital Region DX Cl
K8MR 55 34 3 1,870 MRRC
K0UK 2 2 27 6 Grand Mesa
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
N6MU(@N6NB) 220 57 17,100 SCCC
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/2 QRP
HS8GLR 218 9 20 3,924
E21EIC 248 2 18 1,984 HSDXA
E20MXA 127 4 7 1,016 HSDXA
HS0XNO 97 2 9 388
HS4BPQ/9 44 3 3 264 HSDXA
HS6MYW/1 58 2 4 232 HSDXA
HS5SYH 25 2 2 100
E20JPJ 25 2 2 100 HSDXA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 LP
K8KFJ 26 19 6 494
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Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/6 QRP
N3AWS 5 4 3 20
Operators:
N1LDY KE1AK,N1LDY
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:42:39 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301542.g6UFgdT01056@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Georgia QP - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: August 22, 2002
E-mail logs to: jshort@mindspring.com
Mail logs to:
Jeff Short, KD3UC
5106 Cypress Ct.
Alpharetta, GA 30005
USA
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
In State Rover LP
N4PN 676 75 400 57 20 20,876
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Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
In State Single Op LP
KN4Y 591 0 42 0 12 49,644 FCG
W8RU 44 0 32 0 1 2,816 MRRC
NJ8J 43 7 21 7 3 2,604 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
In State Single Op QRP
WB6BWZ 2 1 2 1 2 15 SECC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
Out of State Single Op HP
K5YAA 170 31 106 27 15 49,343 OkDX
W6KC 57 1 51 1 3 5,980
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
Out of State Single Op LP
N4GG 78 10 64 10 9 12,284 PVRC
W3DYA 92 0 66 0 12,144
WA4PXP(@W4MQ) 62 11 33 11 8 5,896
K8MR 52 4 39 4 4,644 MRRC
W4SAA 27 0 23 0 2 1,242 FCG
NF4A 11 12 10 12 4 748 FCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
Out of State Single Op QRP
NJ4X/7 32 0 31 0 3 1,984
K8GU(@K8GU/P) 8 0 8 0 1 128 MRRC
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:44:04 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 IOTA Contest - Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301544.g6UFi4l01065@localhost.localdomain>
2002 IOTA Contest - Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: hf.contests@rsgb.org.uk
Mail logs to:
RSGB IOTA Contest
PO Box 9
Potters Bar, Herts EN6 3RH
England
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
Multi-Op HP
PI4HQ 1242 230 1151 276 24 7,464,006
OZ0RM(@OZ1ING) 1268 149 671 132 24 3,232,905 WWYC
EA5KB/7 0 0 2425 180 2,380,860
K3WW 266 92 411 99 17 1,043,433 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
Multi-Op LP
N4C(@KO4PY) 700 105 117 55 23 839,520
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)12CW HP
AA3B 341 116 0 0 7 346,956 FRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)12SSB HP
FM5GU 0 0 1210 129 10 845,982 The Pordenone Gangst
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)24CW HP
G3TXF 1250 264 0 0 24 2,006,928
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO(A)24Mixed LP
WN6K 59 37 65 46 16 130,476 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12CW HP
G4BUO 717 200 0 0 12 984,600
NY4A(N4AF) 556 131 0 0 11 526,620 PVRC
VE3KZ 537 111 0 0 12 415,251
F5IN 220 77 0 0 6 127,512 U.F.T.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12CW LP
T93Y 440 148 0 0 602,064 Sarajevo Contest Gro
F6IRF 308 137 0 0 12 448,812
OH6BG 324 72 0 0 12 172,584
VO1HP 190 32 0 0 11,656
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12Mixed HP
N2ED 363 64 100 64 8 472,059 FRC
VO1TA(VO1WET) 10 8 545 83 10 352,443
WB2YQH 108 48 117 73 9 303,831
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12Mixed LP
G0MTN 288 66 382 133 12 942,066 WWYC
RD4M(UA4LU) 183 72 136 69 12 432,306
EA5AER 195 41 193 71 12 325,248
PA5AT 33 14 126 60 6 113,442
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12SSB HP
EA5DFV 0 0 528 95 10 381,900
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO12SSB LP
W1DAD 0 0 220 102 12 219,096 YCCC
VE3BUC 0 0 63 40 2 29,640
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24CW HP
HB9CZF 507 213 0 0 18 1,065,213
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24CW LP
9A7P(9A6XX) 1011 244 0 0 24 1,840,980 WWYC
LZ1PJ 690 180 0 0 21 977,400
S53F 790 139 0 0 24 744,345
HB9ARF 339 140 0 0 490,140
W4SAA/P 748 86 0 0 21 340,560 FCG
KP4AH(WP3C) 512 63 0 0 13 169,344
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24Mixed HP
M6T(G4PIQ) 1125 168 1099 230 24 4,787,940
K9NW(@K9UWA) 548 146 534 135 24 2,473,362 MRRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24Mixed LP
S51NZ 149 69 202 102 645,867
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ CWM PhQ PhM hr Score Club
SO24SSB HP
GM0F(GM4AFF) 0 0 1520 231 24 2,021,481
VK2CZ 0 0 262 72 154,224
Operators:
K3WW AA3ZE,K3WW
N4C KO4PY,N4YDU
OZ0RM OH3RM,OZ1AA,OZ1ING
PI4HQ HA1AG,ON4IA,ON5UM,ON6CC,ON6NL,PA7BT
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:45:24 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 Russian RTTY - Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301545.g6UFjOM01074@localhost.localdomain>
2002 Russian RTTY - Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: September 1, 2002
E-mail logs to: cdma@simcom.ru
Mail logs to:
Russian RTTY Contest Manager
Yuri Katyutin, UA4LCQ
PO Box 1200
Ulyanovsk 432035
Russia
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in this summary, please visit
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOAB HP
VK4UC 294 2895 112 17 324,240
AA5AU 288 2190 77 18 168,630
WX4TM 193 1500 72 108,000
K4WW 150 1205 61 6 73,505 KCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOAB LP
PA5AT 289 1835 27 17 267,910
VE9DX 183 1445 86 12 124,270
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOSB/20 LP
F6FJE 190 1155 66 36 76,230
M0BEX 119 705 57 13 40,185 CDXC (UK)
SV1XV 49 295 36 4 10,620
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Pts Mults hr Score Club
SOSB/20 QRP
WA6BOB 35 245 10 2 2,450
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Tue Jul 30 09:47:49 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Message-ID: <200207301547.g6UFln001083@localhost.localdomain>
2002 RAC Canada Day - All Claimed Scores 30Jul2002
Submit logs by: July 31, 2002
E-mail logs to: ve9qed@rac.ca
Mail logs to:
Radio Amateurs of Canada
720 Belfast Road, Suite 217
Ottawa, Ontario K1G 0Z5
Canada
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
To participate in the summary, please visit:
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/M HP
VE3DC 602 1024 52 56 24 1,124,496
VE5RI 527 1214 41 40 24 818,424
KA6BIM 251 440 35 33 24 373,048 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All M/S HP
XM6JY(@VE6JY) 336 705 47 50 24 655,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K6LA 257 640 34 32 20 436,128 SCCC
VE4YU 230 229 35 33 255,136
VE7AVV 0 809 0 40 15 198,960 BCDX Club
N6HC 174 329 27 20 10 179,164 SCCC
W4SAA 112 34 21 9 8 35,220 FCG
K4BAI 181 22 0 0 27,632 SECC
K1GU 118 0 28 0 4 24,920 YCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
VE5SF 416 562 39 39 18 579,696
VE3MQW 197 249 36 29 250,510
VA3NR 207 243 29 33 18 227,044
VE3BW 183 221 29 37 16 217,536
VE3AGC 47 360 18 36 19 207,252
VE7UQ 62 346 17 28 153,540
VE9WH 32 249 22 20 112,812
VE9DX 505 0 37 0 12 110,852
VA6RA 1 180 1 24 39,050
VE3IAY 194 0 26 0 32,708 CRDXC
VA3WN 142 50 13 10 6 26,542
W0ETT 100 2 25 1 7 21,632 Grand Mesa
VE3ANX 116 2 23 1 3 18,240
W1TO 67 12 15 5 12,680 YCCC
VE3BUC/W4 0 61 0 15 3 8,970
N4WSM 0 29 0 13 4,550 TCG
K1VU 0 38 0 10 3,380 YCCC
W4NZ 32 3 9 2 3,300
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
VE3KZ 242 226 40 39 22 309,048
VE3XAX 334 114 37 24 208,864 U-VE Contest Club
WB6BWZ 26 13 9 4 8 4,862 SECC
AA0XJ 19 5 7 3 5 2,080
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
XL5DX(VA5DX) 513 764 12 12 19 141,696
N6RO 35 66 9 12 1 18,018 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call CWQ PhQ CWM PhM hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
VO1TA(VO1WET) 60 179 8 10 4 30,564
VE3ZIK(VE3ZIK/4N 56 41 6 9 12 9,870
I2WIJ 53 23 7 5 2 5,880 Marconi Contest Club
AE9B/M 10 0 6 0 1 550
Operators:
KA6BIM KA6BIM,NT6K
VE3DC VA3DJ,VE3BK,VE3DXF,VE3GCP,VE3JAI,VE3NYX,VE3OZO,
VE3SS,VE3STT,VE3VMO,VE3VZ
VE5RI VA6ZZZ,VE5CJR,VE5CMA,VE5FN,VE5WI,VE6EZ,VE6NAP,
VE6SV,ZL1JG
XM6JY TI2WGO,VE6JTM,VE6JY,VE6MAA,VE6SRV
>From rw9up at tck.ru Tue Jul 30 17:45:46 2002
From: rw9up@tck.ru (A.Polevik)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] looking for info
Message-ID: <000d01c237e8$8e186920$0dc8c80a@sotel.kem>
I want to subscribe a QST and other hams magazines, but cannot find any info
how to do it. Please help me to fined any site or so.
Best regards
Anatoly
RW9UP
Mail to: rw9up@tck.ru
www.rw9up.ru
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>From n2mg at eham.net Tue Jul 30 12:06:30 2002
From: n2mg@eham.net (Mike Gilmer, N2MG)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] looking for info
Message-ID:
<20020730110630.28547.h010.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Anatoly,
QST/ARRL:
http://www.arrl.org/join.html
CQ Magazine:
http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/
(Click "subscribe link" at far upper left)
Try searching the www.eham.net links database for
other organizations (RSGB, etc.):
http://www.eham.net/links
73 Mike N2MG
RW9UP wrote:
> I want to subscribe a QST and other hams
> magazines, but cannot find any info how to do it.
> Please help me to fined any site or so.
________________________________________________
PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
http://www.peoplepc.com
>From steve at oakcom.com Tue Jul 30 15:56:05 2002
From: steve@oakcom.com (Steve Maki)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Help accessing the CQ WW site
In-Reply-To: <3D45E7CE.1DA3B5DE@tampabay.rr.com>
References: <3D45E7CE.1DA3B5DE@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <i9odkugfib83823s0tubns5ll8piu3f22u@4ax.com>
K4OJ wrote:
>FOR OVER A YEAR NOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT EVERYBODY GOES TO THE cq ww
>SITE AND THERE IS NO REASON WHY I SHOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM...
>
>This past I changed by browser for Explorer to Navigator and I still get
>the following message
>
>
>Forbidden
>
>You don't have permission to access / on this server.
>
>
>when I try and go to
>
>http://www.cqww.com/
>
>
>...what the heck am I doing wrong - I haven't seen CQ's WW site in so
>long I do not even remember what it looks like!
>
>Can someone offer me a better answer other than "you should be able to,
>everyone else can"
Try this as a workaround:
http://209.1.5.209
You should see a list of sites hosted by jzap.com. Click on cqww.com.
Apparently these sites do not have their own ip addresses. This is a
relatively new style of hosting, so your browser must be a late enough
version to understand how this works. If you are in fact using a recent
version, then complain to your ISP.
--
Steve K8LX
>From wn3vaw at fyi.net Tue Jul 30 15:25:44 2002
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Sending in email Cabrillo logs--pffuth
References: <200207301602.g6UG2QhF021003@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <032901c237fa$aa281360$03010a0a@office1>
Charles,
What software are you and/or your friend using? I used CT 9.7 during the
IARU and had no trouble with either the generated Cabrillo file nor sending
it to HQ, even with the Hq letters. (I had a different problem with the log
that was my screw-up, and the robot took the correction without a hitch too)
73, ron wn3vaw
Name Barry Manilow's Greatest Hit:
(1) "Like a Good Neighbor, State Farm is There"
(2) "I'm Stuck On a Band-Aid & A Band-Aid's Stuck on Me"
(3) "You Deserve A Break Today..."
From: "Charles Harpole" <k4vud@hotmail.com>
To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Sending in email Cabrillo logs--pffuth
A nice ham converted my IARU contest logs to Cabrillo for me . I sent them
in by emai to IARUHF@iaru.org as per instructions.
First I got back an automated statement saying that the site was not
accepting such messages.
A little later I got another automated message from ARRL saying my log was
in there, but there are problems... the ROBOT does not accept the HQ
letters instead of numbers! This is way too much trouble, still, even with
help. I like to operate radios, not computers. A pox on the whole thing
today. 73,
Charles Harpole
k4vud@hotmail.com
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>From MTessmer at axxesstech.com Tue Jul 30 16:29:52 2002
From: MTessmer@axxesstech.com (Mike Tessmer)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: QST Line Scores
Message-ID: <EC2530260094D411A5E700A0C9D1C4C90131F723@AXXESSEXCH01>
I think most of us can agree that the searchable database, etc., that the
ARRL now puts on the web is a good thing....pretty cool actually! I would
have liked to have seen the scores and stuff remain in the magazine but I'll
adjust.
What I would like to know is if there are still plans to produce a .PDF-type
article for each contest, with all the line scores and stuff just like one
would find in the magazine, that I'll be able to print and peruse at my
leisure say, on an airplane or wherever?
73, Mike K9NW
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>From david.e.burger at au.pwcglobal.com Wed Jul 31 11:29:02 2002
From: david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com (david.e.burger@au.pwcglobal.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] IOTA Logging Software
Message-ID: <OFB32B5C4C.2E90D821-ONCA256C06.00836B6E@aap.pwcinternal.com>
A neat lo-cost solution is the MS Excel contest logger - it can log ANY
contest, and anyone with basic Excel intro skills, doing sorts and
subtotals will let you calc the mults, zero score dupes and points quickly.
My version automatically does dupe checking, prefix tracking, zone
tracking, QSO rates and US state tracking and of couse QSO count tracking.
I wrote it for the CQWW and WPX, but it doesn't do cabrillo (easily) - I
heard there is a VB answer to that out there.
My dBase 3+ logger works in native cabrillo and exports the two near
standardised fixed and variable exchange formats for the international
contests. It will log any contest, including IOTA, and will export a
logical IOTA style cabrillo file. The cabrillo exports suit IARU, CQWW,
NEQP, ARRL DX, Oceania, WPX, SAC & ARRL 10 contests.
I want to get these little programs up on a website somewhere - as I sure
many hams would like to use a basic logger without committing money to one
product (like me). If someone wants a copy of the code, happy to oblige. I
cannot help with providing the main Excel or dBase 3+, dBase 4, Foxpro etc
programs though. But there is a free-ware Fbase database engine (US
Fisheries of all places and the Hotel Fidelio reservations engine) which I
understand will run my dbase 3+ code.
Keep in mind these are very basic loggers, and although I'm always tweaking
them (one version has Florida, Texas, New England and Californai QSO party
mult tracking) - they would get you started.
David VK2CZ / VK8AA (k3hz@ieee.org)
Sydney/Darwin
>From k4ab at msn.com Tue Jul 30 21:09:17 2002
From: k4ab@msn.com (Larry Crim)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQ "Expanded" Results
Message-ID: <DAV72vrx0twzCRIv7Az00023117@hotmail.com>
I hate to join in the bashing....but...
After trying to decipher the CQ homepage to determine where the "expanded"
results are located, I found there are No expanded results...'cept for station
ops.
Team contesting, top scores in active zones. zone leaders/single op aren't
there.
Oh, but they're "coming soon".
But I have my CQ hard copy issue in my hand.
Is the web supposed to speed-up delivery of results?
Results say no.
I'm disappointed.
73,
Larry K4AB
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>From sm4dhf at telia.com Wed Jul 31 21:56:56 2002
From: sm4dhf@telia.com (Goran SM4DHF)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Phone results in CQ magazine
Message-ID: <001001c238c4$0ab6e8e0$d2c442d5@telia.com>
Hi,
just heard from a friend in W7 who got the CQ Magazine that my contest
operation
in CQWW Phone 2001 as TI2/SM4DHF seems to be listed as a winning score for
Europe on
15 m LP!!
I have no idea how this happend... the soapbox comment that is on the CQ
Internet page
is not what was in my cabrillo file either!
Trying to sort this out with CQ at the moment.
73 Goran SM4DHF
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http://www.sm4dhf.com/search.shtml
log search collection
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>From k3zo at verizon.net Wed Jul 31 18:07:08 2002
From: k3zo@verizon.net (Fred Laun K3ZO)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20020731142403.00b881a0@mail.verizon.net>
People are usually incredulous when I tell them there are 175,000 hams in
Thailand. Why don't we hear them on the bands, I am asked.
The answer is that about 99.4% of them are VHF-only hams. The barrier to
upgrading, interestingly enough, is not CW so much as it is the fact that
the guy who writes the exams for the Thai PTD makes the written exam
top-heavy on obscure facts like what does the Z-signal ZNN stand for, etc.
So the failure rate on the written exam has been rather high.
All this may be changing as the PTD's responsibilities, under Thailand's
new Constitution, are being taken over by a new commission similar to our
FCC, and in the process the Radio Amateur Society of Thailand, along with
Thailand's 75 provincial radio clubs, are being given more responsibilities
in the license registration arena. While this is costing the ham societies
some bucks, it also may open the way to getting more of these folks on HF
where they can fatten the contest logs of all of us, particularly the
long-suffering sixes and other left-coasters.
Champ, E21EIC, along with John, HS1CHB, promoted the CQWW VHF Contest in
Thailand this year and got quite a bit of participation. Champ is rounding
up the logs and helping the contestants to submit them to CQ. He is also
planning to propose the creation of a national VHF contest in Thailand to
better familiarize all the VHF'ers with contesting.
Champ has copied me on his log submission messages to CQ, and I have taken
the QSO list of just one log, that of DOMRONGSAK PATTAKARNGOVIBOON,
HS8GLR/9, who operated the contest from Songkhla Province in Southern
Thailand near the border with Malaysia. Here is his list of QSOs in the
CQWW VHF contest. Will the left-coast logs of the future contain something
like this?
HS9KYQ HS9LVI HS9LVY HS9LCH HS9JPM HS9IPP HS9KGW
HS9KFL HS9LLH HS9LVX HS9JRV HS9KJV HS9KTD HS8IJF
HS9FQG HS9KUW E21PC HS8BRC HS9JEF HS9JVL HS9KJM
HS9CEY HS9LJY HS9IZF HS9LLY HS9JWW HS9LQM HS9BY
HS9KML HS9KWK HS8HTJ HS9IZV HS9JZH HS9EWQ HS9KLH
HS9LCS HS9LQR HS8HZP HS8FOX HS9JWH HS9ERT HS9IYJ
HS9LRW HS9KTY HS9AGW HS9KNB HS9LST HS9LRA HS9KXV
HS8HOA HS9CKL HS9DNV HS9LWK HS9ILT HS9LNN E20RD
HS9HRY HS9ITP HS9KLR HS9KDI HS9KLP HS9KQO HS9VK
HS9LMI HS9CAK HS9EG HS9KDU HS9JYA HS9LLG HS9LLQ
HS9LMH HS9LWD HS6SML HS9KKQ HS9IUR HS9HDZ HS9KRE
HS9CVC HS9KRK HS9FFC HS9CLQ HS5VSY HS9KQR HS8DWY
HS9FPW HS9HXW HS9KJH HS9CUU HS9FLY HS9KAT HS9LPB
HS9GGD HS9KDT HS9LFH HS9BVF HS9KFJ HS9FOD HS9LAY
HS9JDX HS9LDO HS9HIW HS9HQT HS9INL HS9HUE HS9HPC
HS9LDH HS9GQH HS9LAE HS9GAZ HS9IGC HS9KKS HS9LPI
HS9LWR HS9JVX HS9LXK HS1AQU HS9JQQ HS9LHZ HS9LQC
HS9JZR HS9ZE HS8FNO HS9JYW HS9LRF HS9KYB HS8KHP
HS9LTU HS9IAJ HS9IYR HS9KZY HS9IBX HS9LVV HS8LCT
HS9LVQ HS9FZ HS9KFI HS9CFK HS9KXY HS9LVW HS8KAC
HS9KNG HS9EDW HS9FXJ HS9LRV HS9LET HS9JMO HS9LTJ
HS8KQS HS9CQB HS9LXY HS9AVD HS9CXZ HS9BKB HS8KPP
HS9LKM HS9LEZ HS9IHA HS9LEN HS9LWP HS9IPO HS8KMQ
E20LPI HS9AVE HS9CLR HS9LUM HS8GQA HS9LPG HS8JWZ
HS9HTN HS9LEV HS9INZ HS9LRT HS8IKZ HS9LXR HS8KDY
HS9LNM HS9HYQ HS9KKU HS9LFL HS9EPP HS9LUG HS9LSS
HS9PW HS5ORL HS9ZU HS9KTT
HS9KYG HS8JTO HS9HK HS9KTU
HS9LVZ HS8JVH HS9APZ HS9EUZ
HS8DHH HS8KAG HS9JDX
HS9IHQ HS8KNP 9W2DD
HS9LGM HS8AIM 9W2XM
HS9LLE HS8ABS HS9JRR
HS9KOJ HS8KBS HS9ITC
HS8IBN HS8HOH HS9YE
HS8LAZ HS8KLC HS9LPV
HS8JPN HS8KZK HS9KPQ
73, Fred, K3ZO
>From mwdink at eskimo.com Wed Jul 31 16:04:08 2002
From: mwdink@eskimo.com (mwdink@eskimo.com)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20020731142403.00b881a0@mail.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020731150127.00a7d660@pop3.eskimo.com>
We can only hope so.... :>)
Still won't make up for those Y'urpean mults tho.
73
dink, n7wa
(Pacific NorthLeft Coast)
>Will the left-coast logs of the future contain something like this?
HS9KYQ HS9LVI HS9LVY HS9LCH HS9JPM HS9IPP HS9KGW
HS9KFL ...........
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>From w9sz at prairienet.org Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20020731142403.00b881a0@mail.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207311748100.16810-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Fred Laun K3ZO wrote:
> People are usually incredulous when I tell them there are 175,000 hams in
> Thailand. Why don't we hear them on the bands, I am asked.
>
> The answer is that about 99.4% of them are VHF-only hams. The barrier to
> upgrading, interestingly enough, is not CW so much as it is the fact that
> the guy who writes the exams for the Thai PTD makes the written exam
> top-heavy on obscure facts like what does the Z-signal ZNN stand for, etc.
> So the failure rate on the written exam has been rather high.
>
That's really too bad. You'd think they'd get real. I have never in 35
years heard anyone use a Z-signal in ham radio.
Sort of like asking me as a photographer how to shoot Autochrome or make a
Bromoil. Chances are mighty slim that either will happen!
> Champ, E21EIC, along with John, HS1CHB, promoted the CQWW VHF Contest in
> Thailand this year and got quite a bit of participation. Champ is rounding
> up the logs and helping the contestants to submit them to CQ. He is also
> planning to propose the creation of a national VHF contest in Thailand to
> better familiarize all the VHF'ers with contesting.
>
> Champ has copied me on his log submission messages to CQ, and I have taken
> the QSO list of just one log, that of DOMRONGSAK PATTAKARNGOVIBOON,
> HS8GLR/9, who operated the contest from Songkhla Province in Southern
> Thailand near the border with Malaysia. Here is his list of QSOs in the
> CQWW VHF contest. Will the left-coast logs of the future contain something
> like this?
>
[snipped huge list of HS callsigns]
I certainly hope so!!!
73, Zack W9SZ
>From w7ti at dslextreme.com Wed Jul 31 20:08:31 2002
From: w7ti@dslextreme.com (Bill Turner)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207311748100.16810-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
References: <4.2.2.20020731142403.00b881a0@mail.verizon.net>
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10207311748100.16810-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <bs5hkuojsc8voqj4n7nse20ae648f22kce@4ax.com>
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:51:50 -0500 (CDT), Zack Widup wrote:
>That's really too bad. You'd think they'd get real. I have never in 35
>years heard anyone use a Z-signal in ham radio.
>
>Sort of like asking me as a photographer how to shoot Autochrome or make a
>Bromoil. Chances are mighty slim that either will happen!
_________________________________________________________
Being a third world country, there are no doubt some agendas at
work we have little knowledge of. Having LOTS of hams with HF
privileges is clearly not one of their priorities.
Bill, W7TI
>From w9sz at prairienet.org Wed Jul 31 23:40:23 2002
From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup)
Date: Wed Jul 31 18:51:50 2002
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Left Coast Logs of the Future?
In-Reply-To: <bs5hkuojsc8voqj4n7nse20ae648f22kce@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10207312231390.22472-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Bill Turner wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:51:50 -0500 (CDT), Zack Widup wrote:
>
> >That's really too bad. You'd think they'd get real. I have never in 35
> >years heard anyone use a Z-signal in ham radio.
> >
> >Sort of like asking me as a photographer how to shoot Autochrome or make a
> >Bromoil. Chances are mighty slim that either will happen!
>
> _________________________________________________________
>
> Being a third world country, there are no doubt some agendas at
> work we have little knowledge of. Having LOTS of hams with HF
> privileges is clearly not one of their priorities.
>
> Bill, W7TI
I guess that could be true. If you really want to prevent someone from
doing something while still giving the apparency that you want them to do
it, you can come up with all sorts of methods.
It is a shame, though. There are obviously many people over there who are
interested in ham radio.
Is Sudan in a similar situation? I know of big-time contest operations
taking place from many African countries now and then, but Sudan isn't one
of them.
Zack W9SZ
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